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[2023-10-31 03:50:16] <Lucifer_arma> Well, 23.7k words now.  In four days.  I don't know why I'm so productive.  I usually start around 1700 word and take a few days to ramp up.  It's more like a week in when I start hitting these kinds of word counts.
[2023-10-31 03:50:16] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Well, 23.7k words now.  In four days.  I don't know why I'm so productive.  I usually start around 1700 word and take a few days to ramp up.  It's more like a week in when I start hitting these kinds of word counts.
[2023-10-31 03:51:01] <Lucifer_arma> I only spent one day planning, and I didn't plan much.  I spent most of that time planning my overall strategy, not the story itself.
[2023-10-31 03:51:01] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I only spent one day planning, and I didn't plan much.  I spent most of that time planning my overall strategy, not the story itself.
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[2023-10-31 10:49:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Yeah, I prefer to write in a stream of consciousness myself. 
[2023-10-31 10:49:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Yeah, I prefer to write in a stream of consciousness myself. 
[2023-10-31 10:49:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| The ttrpg is a neat idea, but its not really the sort of thing I'm interesting in *making*, although playing is fun. I think its already been done in this genre too, couple decades ago with Starfire. Interestingly enough I wrote a hook for another novel in the same universe, this time a rather noir detective number with some sin city influences. I'm looking forward to it, I think
[2023-10-31 10:49:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| The ttrpg is a neat idea, but its not really the sort of thing I'm interesting in *making*, although playing is fun. I think its already been done in this genre too, couple decades ago with Starfire. Interestingly enough I wrote a hook for another novel in the same universe, this time a rather noir detective number with some sin city influences. I'm looking forward to it, I think
[2023-10-31 10:51:47] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| As for information organisation, I'm not usre yet. I think I'm going to have to do several sets of notes, given that I'm covering a good five or six interstellar nations, a great amount of future history, and generational changes in technology levels. I'm trying to build disaprity between advancement too, which is where I fell over with giving one nation a technology it should ne <clipped message>
[2023-10-31 10:51:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| ver have had. Shouldn't be too hard tbh
[2023-10-31 10:51:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| As for information organisation, I'm not usre yet. I think I'm going to have to do several sets of notes, given that I'm covering a good five or six interstellar nations, a great amount of future history, and generational changes in technology levels. I'm trying to build disaprity between advancement too, which is where I fell over with giving one nation a technology it should ne <clipped message>
[2023-10-31 10:51:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| ver have had. Shouldn't be too hard tbh
[2023-10-31 12:16:07] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| cool
[2023-10-31 12:16:07] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| cool
[2023-10-31 12:16:22] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| i dont like taking notes or journaling
[2023-10-31 12:16:22] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| i dont like taking notes or journaling
[2023-10-31 12:16:53] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| because of the fear of possible eavesdropping including from myself
[2023-10-31 12:16:54] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| because of the fear of possible eavesdropping including from myself
[2023-10-31 12:16:59] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| its irrational, right?
[2023-10-31 12:16:59] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| its irrational, right?
[2023-10-31 12:17:11] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| just, something related to emotions too
[2023-10-31 12:17:11] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| just, something related to emotions too
[2023-10-31 17:34:08] <Lucifer_arma> Another little "trick" I've taken to: when I'm not ready to write a scene, but i know what should happen in it, I mark it TODO: and give notes for what happens.  Then I just continue after that scene.
[2023-10-31 17:34:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Another little "trick" I've taken to: when I'm not ready to write a scene, but i know what should happen in it, I mark it TODO: and give notes for what happens.  Then I just continue after that scene.
[2023-10-31 17:34:40] <Lucifer_arma> A rough draft that meets the word count goals but still has TODO's in it is considered "story complete", but the rough draft isn't complete until the TODO's are taken care of
[2023-10-31 17:34:41] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| A rough draft that meets the word count goals but still has TODO's in it is considered "story complete", but the rough draft isn't complete until the TODO's are taken care of
[2023-10-31 17:35:11] <Lucifer_arma> First thing I do when I'm story complete is word search TODO: and start writing those scenes
[2023-10-31 17:35:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| First thing I do when I'm story complete is word search TODO: and start writing those scenes
[2023-10-31 17:47:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Same here, I have a good four or five pages of TODO notes
[2023-10-31 17:47:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Same here, I have a good four or five pages of TODO notes
[2023-10-31 18:02:34] <Lucifer_arma> I have found that about half of my todo's are scenes that are going to be just as boring for the reader to read as they were when I decided to skip writing them, so I turn the notes into prose.  :)
[2023-10-31 18:02:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I have found that about half of my todo's are scenes that are going to be just as boring for the reader to read as they were when I decided to skip writing them, so I turn the notes into prose.  :)
[2023-10-31 18:03:55] <Lucifer_arma> truthfully, I should be writing screenplays.  90% of my rough drafts are dialogue only.  I have to add in narration during revisions.  Some dialogue will get replaced with narrative, but it just seems that if I write such dialogue-heavy rough drafts, I should be writing a play or a screenplay
[2023-10-31 18:03:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| truthfully, I should be writing screenplays.  90% of my rough drafts are dialogue only.  I have to add in narration during revisions.  Some dialogue will get replaced with narrative, but it just seems that if I write such dialogue-heavy rough drafts, I should be writing a play or a screenplay
[2023-10-31 18:04:39] <Lucifer_arma> or I should partner up with somebody who writes excellent narration, but sucks at dialogue :)
[2023-10-31 18:04:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| or I should partner up with somebody who writes excellent narration, but sucks at dialogue :)
[2023-10-31 18:29:25] <Lucifer_arma> okay, is it a diamond smuggling ring, or is it an abortion drug smuggling ring?  If the first, I can get pretty silly.  If the latter, it's a political statement of some sort.
[2023-10-31 18:29:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| okay, is it a diamond smuggling ring, or is it an abortion drug smuggling ring?  If the first, I can get pretty silly.  If the latter, it's a political statement of some sort.
[2023-10-31 18:29:53] <Lucifer_arma> One of my leads is pro-choice, and the other is staunchly pro-life, so there's some conflict I can have there
[2023-10-31 18:29:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| One of my leads is pro-choice, and the other is staunchly pro-life, so there's some conflict I can have there
[2023-10-31 18:53:20] <Lucifer_arma> ok, it's neither of those.  Those are both too obvious.  NOw that I've run the numbers, it has to be something really silly that's still totally illegal and would have to be smuggled.
[2023-10-31 18:53:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, it's neither of those.  Those are both too obvious.  NOw that I've run the numbers, it has to be something really silly that's still totally illegal and would have to be smuggled.
[2023-10-31 19:10:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Set it in China and have your titular lead smuggle GPUs in? That's actually a thing believe it or not
[2023-10-31 19:10:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Set it in China and have your titular lead smuggle GPUs in? That's actually a thing believe it or not
[2023-10-31 19:11:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| or you could do that drug for FIP, it's nto FDA approved so cat owners have to buy it here or in the EU and smuggle it into the states
[2023-10-31 19:11:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| or you could do that drug for FIP, it's nto FDA approved so cat owners have to buy it here or in the EU and smuggle it into the states
[2023-10-31 19:11:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| one of the sysadmin IRC lot had to do that for one of her floofs
[2023-10-31 19:11:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| one of the sysadmin IRC lot had to do that for one of her floofs
[2023-10-31 19:14:37] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| maybe some gambling related stuff?
[2023-10-31 19:14:38] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| maybe some gambling related stuff?
[2023-10-31 19:14:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Remdesivir and GS-441524, in liquid and tablet form respectively
[2023-10-31 19:14:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Remdesivir and GS-441524, in liquid and tablet form respectively
[2023-10-31 19:58:01] <Lucifer_arma> Is it worth $100k on the market?
[2023-10-31 19:58:02] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Is it worth $100k on the market?
[2023-10-31 19:58:27] <Lucifer_arma> I was coming up with a standard prescription drug smuggling thing, because a lot of stuff in the US that's prescription only is over the counter in Mexico
[2023-10-31 19:58:27] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I was coming up with a standard prescription drug smuggling thing, because a lot of stuff in the US that's prescription only is over the counter in Mexico
[2023-10-31 19:59:22] <Lucifer_arma> it's already set in Texas, but I did know about the smuggled GPU thing
[2023-10-31 19:59:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's already set in Texas, but I did know about the smuggled GPU thing
[2023-10-31 19:59:58] <Lucifer_arma> I was seriously considering Kinder Eggs
[2023-10-31 19:59:59] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I was seriously considering Kinder Eggs
[2023-10-31 20:05:10] <Lucifer_arma> I'm probably going to just go with diamonds
[2023-10-31 20:05:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm probably going to just go with diamonds
[2023-10-31 20:05:56] <Lucifer_arma> these other things don't have significant comedic value and run the risk of making my antagonist look too much like a good guy
[2023-10-31 20:05:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| these other things don't have significant comedic value and run the risk of making my antagonist look too much like a good guy
[2023-10-31 21:02:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Diamonds make your protagonist look like the bad guy tbf. The vast majority of smuggled diamonds have passed through the hands of Wagner or its subsidiaries, and there's a whole tale of blood and tears and violence to go along with it. For quite some time, the illicit (and, in part, the legitimate) diamond trade was a huge portion of Russia's state income. The resolutions "enacte <clipped message>
[2023-10-31 21:02:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Diamonds make your protagonist look like the bad guy tbf. The vast majority of smuggled diamonds have passed through the hands of Wagner or its subsidiaries, and there's a whole tale of blood and tears and violence to go along with it. For quite some time, the illicit (and, in part, the legitimate) diamond trade was a huge portion of Russia's state income. The resolutions "enacte <clipped message>
[2023-10-31 21:02:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| d" by De Beers did practically nothing to change that, either
[2023-10-31 21:02:04] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| d" by De Beers did practically nothing to change that, either
[2023-10-31 21:50:55] <Lucifer_arma> I found a middle ground.  I want the antagonist to be morally ambiguous, so I unhooked him from De Beers by making it a general gemstone heist, so the smuggling are stolen gems.
[2023-10-31 21:50:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I found a middle ground.  I want the antagonist to be morally ambiguous, so I unhooked him from De Beers by making it a general gemstone heist, so the smuggling are stolen gems.
[2023-10-31 21:51:37] <Lucifer_arma> And he's doing it using stolen bikes that were converted to e-bikes to get the gems across the border.  so the gems were stolen in europe and smuggled into the US.
[2023-10-31 21:51:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| And he's doing it using stolen bikes that were converted to e-bikes to get the gems across the border.  so the gems were stolen in europe and smuggled into the US.
[2023-10-31 21:51:51] <Lucifer_arma> my hero is investigating the bike thefts, and doesn't care about the rest as long as he gets his bike back
[2023-10-31 21:51:51] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| my hero is investigating the bike thefts, and doesn't care about the rest as long as he gets his bike back
[2023-10-31 21:52:03] <Lucifer_arma> it might classify as young adult fiction, to be honest.
[2023-10-31 21:52:04] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it might classify as young adult fiction, to be honest.
[2023-10-31 21:52:28] <Lucifer_arma> the size, the basic plot, the overall lack of swearing and violence.  I think I've accidentally written a YA novel
[2023-10-31 21:52:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the size, the basic plot, the overall lack of swearing and violence.  I think I've accidentally written a YA novel
[2023-10-31 21:52:52] <Lucifer_arma> (still only 3/4 through it, but at this rate, I'll finish today or tomorrow, probably tomorrow)
[2023-10-31 21:52:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| (still only 3/4 through it, but at this rate, I'll finish today or tomorrow, probably tomorrow)
[2023-10-31 21:53:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Oooh, here's one. There's a form of Fluorite called Blue John that has only ever been found in England, specifically the midlands. It is ruinously expensive, and somewhat useful for laser refraction in high powered environments. The US was experimenting some time ago with laser anti-air weapons, soooooooooooo
[2023-10-31 21:53:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Oooh, here's one. There's a form of Fluorite called Blue John that has only ever been found in England, specifically the midlands. It is ruinously expensive, and somewhat useful for laser refraction in high powered environments. The US was experimenting some time ago with laser anti-air weapons, soooooooooooo
[2023-10-31 21:53:59] <Lucifer_arma> that's interesting.
[2023-10-31 21:54:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that's interesting.
[2023-10-31 21:54:56] <Lucifer_arma> I can switch the original heist site to england, and then at the end have them discover what gems were really stolen and wonder where they ended up
[2023-10-31 21:54:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I can switch the original heist site to england, and then at the end have them discover what gems were really stolen and wonder where they ended up
[2023-10-31 21:55:17] <Lucifer_arma> that makes my recurring villain more interesting the next time he appears
[2023-10-31 21:55:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that makes my recurring villain more interesting the next time he appears
[2023-10-31 21:55:24] <Lucifer_arma> I like that, thank you, I'm going to go with that
[2023-10-31 21:55:24] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I like that, thank you, I'm going to go with that
[2023-10-31 21:55:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| it's handy because it refracts light at two separate, predictable angles, given that it is usually in the form of blue bands and yellow bands. By refracting a known percentage, you can get an accurate energy output reading without damaging your measuring equipment
[2023-10-31 21:55:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| it's handy because it refracts light at two separate, predictable angles, given that it is usually in the form of blue bands and yellow bands. By refracting a known percentage, you can get an accurate energy output reading without damaging your measuring equipment
[2023-10-31 21:57:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| heh, you could add a very stereotypical british detective into the mix, too. By that I mean morse-esque, rather than holmes
[2023-10-31 21:57:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| heh, you could add a very stereotypical british detective into the mix, too. By that I mean morse-esque, rather than holmes
[2023-10-31 22:00:56] <Lucifer_arma> I've got a former MI6 operative
[2023-10-31 22:00:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've got a former MI6 operative
[2023-10-31 22:01:31] <Lucifer_arma> she was ambiguous until you brought up the fluorite, then I gave her a manchester accent and made her former mi6
[2023-10-31 22:01:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| she was ambiguous until you brought up the fluorite, then I gave her a manchester accent and made her former mi6
[2023-10-31 22:02:22] <Lucifer_arma> there's no law enforcement in this story, so I'm going to wind up with two recurring antagonists from this, with the moral ambiguity needed to make them potential allies for certain stories in the future
[2023-10-31 22:02:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| there's no law enforcement in this story, so I'm going to wind up with two recurring antagonists from this, with the moral ambiguity needed to make them potential allies for certain stories in the future
[2023-10-31 22:02:30] <Lucifer_arma> which is exactly what I wanted out of the first story
[2023-10-31 22:02:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| which is exactly what I wanted out of the first story
[2023-10-31 22:05:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| SIS, not MI6. You'd want Security Services, though, or what we once called MI5. MI6 exclusively handles foreign affairs, MI5 handles domestic and domestic-toexport
[2023-10-31 22:05:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| SIS, not MI6. You'd want Security Services, though, or what we once called MI5. MI6 exclusively handles foreign affairs, MI5 handles domestic and domestic-toexport
[2023-10-31 22:06:24] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| GCHQ would handle any sigint stuff, so intercepted calls and the like
[2023-10-31 22:06:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| GCHQ would handle any sigint stuff, so intercepted calls and the like
[2023-10-31 22:06:41] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| computer penetration, that sorta thing
[2023-10-31 22:06:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| computer penetration, that sorta thing
[2023-10-31 22:07:06] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| There's actually a GCHQ building in Manchester too
[2023-10-31 22:07:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| There's actually a GCHQ building in Manchester too
[2023-10-31 22:08:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| although I might suggest you consider Scarborough, in Yorkshire. There's a GCHQ building there too, and Manchester is a bit northern for Blue John
[2023-10-31 22:08:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| although I might suggest you consider Scarborough, in Yorkshire. There's a GCHQ building there too, and Manchester is a bit northern for Blue John
[2023-10-31 22:08:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Security Services is Thames House, so I could imagine an operative being seconded within the bounds of compartmentalisation
[2023-10-31 22:08:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Security Services is Thames House, so I could imagine an operative being seconded within the bounds of compartmentalisation
[2023-10-31 22:40:38] <Lucifer_arma> Her work in british intelligence doesn't have to be related, here, since she's in the private sector.  I picked Manchester because that's one of the few british accents I can identify outright (although I can tell the difference between most of the ones that have come my way, I can't name where they're from)
[2023-10-31 22:40:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Her work in british intelligence doesn't have to be related, here, since she's in the private sector.  I picked Manchester because that's one of the few british accents I can identify outright (although I can tell the difference between most of the ones that have come my way, I can't name where they're from)
[2023-10-31 22:41:00] <Lucifer_arma> but I'll move her to SIS, because I want her to be former domestic work.  Does that mean SIS is british FBI?
[2023-10-31 22:41:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but I'll move her to SIS, because I want her to be former domestic work.  Does that mean SIS is british FBI?
[2023-10-31 23:07:26] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| no no, SIS is foreign only. Security Services is domestic
[2023-10-31 23:07:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| no no, SIS is foreign only. Security Services is domestic
[2023-10-31 23:15:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| and... sort of. GCHQ does a lot of the sigint work, and then the investigative work is SIS or Sec depending on the nature of the issue. It gets more complicated when consider the structure of Five Eyes, but that's probably beyond the scope of anyone wanting to write anything other than the most stringent of works. 
[2023-10-31 23:15:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| and... sort of. GCHQ does a lot of the sigint work, and then the investigative work is SIS or Sec depending on the nature of the issue. It gets more complicated when consider the structure of Five Eyes, but that's probably beyond the scope of anyone wanting to write anything other than the most stringent of works. 
[2023-10-31 23:15:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| She'd be a Security Service employee, and most likely on secondment for the purpose of an investigation, but in the event of acting against the law in this regard, she'd most likely find a reason to be reactivated and be actively working to conceal her actions. The vast majority of SIS and Sec personnel are considered "lifetime active", and are also lightly monitored in civilian  <clipped message>
[2023-10-31 23:15:55] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| She'd be a Security Service employee, and most likely on secondment for the purpose of an investigation, but in the event of acting against the law in this regard, she'd most likely find a reason to be reactivated and be actively working to conceal her actions. The vast majority of SIS and Sec personnel are considered "lifetime active", and are also lightly monitored in civilian  <clipped message>
[2023-10-31 23:15:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| life after a specific treason case that practically broke an entire ledger of active ciphers during the cold war.
[2023-10-31 23:15:56] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| life after a specific treason case that practically broke an entire ledger of active ciphers during the cold war.
[2023-10-31 23:15:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Incidentally, that was why all of our numbers stations went green brig for a while. The blokey managed to escape with a whole set of shorthands, and at the time nobody knew *which* shorthands were compromised. There were operatives in the field and in the dark for over a year and we were damned lucky not to lose anyoen
[2023-10-31 23:15:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| Incidentally, that was why all of our numbers stations went green brig for a while. The blokey managed to escape with a whole set of shorthands, and at the time nobody knew *which* shorthands were compromised. There were operatives in the field and in the dark for over a year and we were damned lucky not to lose anyoen
[2023-10-31 23:16:27] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| This was in the late 70's iirc. There was a doc on channel 4 about it back when I was a nipper
[2023-10-31 23:16:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Jack Skellingquent| This was in the late 70's iirc. There was a doc on channel 4 about it back when I was a nipper
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[2023-10-31 23:50:31] <Lucifer_arma> I vaguely remember that.  I mean, I was alive at the time, but that's not why I vaguely remember it.  It's come up, either in something I was watching/reading, or in my numerous deep dives into cold war incidents
[2023-10-31 23:50:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I vaguely remember that.  I mean, I was alive at the time, but that's not why I vaguely remember it.  It's come up, either in something I was watching/reading, or in my numerous deep dives into cold war incidents
[2023-10-31 23:51:13] <Lucifer_arma> interesting that she'd be monitored in her civilian life and could be reactivated.  That'll add an interesting depth to her character, meaning she's either gone rogue completely and may be wanted by british authorities, or she's not exactly a villain
[2023-10-31 23:51:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| interesting that she'd be monitored in her civilian life and could be reactivated.  That'll add an interesting depth to her character, meaning she's either gone rogue completely and may be wanted by british authorities, or she's not exactly a villain
[2023-10-31 23:51:59] <Lucifer_arma> after I finish this rough draft, I should sit down and write up some character sketches, since I'm intending to reuse most of the named characters and the as-yet unnamed villain.
[2023-10-31 23:51:59] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| after I finish this rough draft, I should sit down and write up some character sketches, since I'm intending to reuse most of the named characters and the as-yet unnamed villain.
[2023-10-31 23:52:51] <Lucifer_arma> I may not name him this time, either.  He's going to develop into my lead's nemesis.  They'll have a Holmes/Moriarty dynamic long term.  Or more like Professor X/Magneto.
[2023-10-31 23:52:51] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I may not name him this time, either.  He's going to develop into my lead's nemesis.  They'll have a Holmes/Moriarty dynamic long term.  Or more like Professor X/Magneto.

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