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[2023-12-01 04:48:34] <Lucifer_arma> on the subject of passwords:  https://github.com/jreesuk/entropizer
[2023-12-01 04:48:35] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| on the subject of passwords:  https://github.com/jreesuk/entropizer
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[2023-12-01 20:36:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @teejayx99 The hurricane was a stopgap design, so the spitfire was a monumental improvement. They still used hurricanes in huge numbers though, battle of britain saw a few hundred in the air
[2023-12-01 20:36:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @teejayx99 The hurricane was a stopgap design, so the spitfire was a monumental improvement. They still used hurricanes in huge numbers though, battle of britain saw a few hundred in the air
[2023-12-01 20:36:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| free french, poles, morroccans, a few other nationalities mostly
[2023-12-01 20:36:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| free french, poles, morroccans, a few other nationalities mostly
[2023-12-01 20:37:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| all making up RAF outreach squadrons
[2023-12-01 20:37:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| all making up RAF outreach squadrons
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[2023-12-01 22:46:21] <Lucifer_arma> iirc, the spitfire was the best fighter in WW2
[2023-12-01 22:46:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| iirc, the spitfire was the best fighter in WW2
[2023-12-01 22:47:02] <Lucifer_arma> of course, that's kinda subjective, since the german planes tended to be better-armed, but slower and with a lower ceiling
[2023-12-01 22:47:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| of course, that's kinda subjective, since the german planes tended to be better-armed, but slower and with a lower ceiling
[2023-12-01 22:47:37] <Lucifer_arma> I don't recall how well the spitfires did against the japanese planes, but the US planes were slower than the japanese, but had a higher ceiling, iirc.
[2023-12-01 22:47:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I don't recall how well the spitfires did against the japanese planes, but the US planes were slower than the japanese, but had a higher ceiling, iirc.
[2023-12-01 23:13:00] <Lucifer_arma> well, the good news is that my roommate is moving out.  The bad news is that I have to find another roommate.
[2023-12-01 23:13:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, the good news is that my roommate is moving out.  The bad news is that I have to find another roommate.
[2023-12-01 23:17:45] <Lucifer_arma> I'm in Austin, TX (technically Pflugerville), in case any of y'all know someone looking for a place
[2023-12-01 23:17:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm in Austin, TX (technically Pflugerville), in case any of y'all know someone looking for a place
[2023-12-01 23:18:07] <Lucifer_arma> alternately, if I can score about $700/month in addition to what I'm earning at my job, I don't need a roommate
[2023-12-01 23:18:07] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| alternately, if I can score about $700/month in addition to what I'm earning at my job, I don't need a roommate

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[2023-12-03 18:20:14] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:dgital| Question, if disney made a third Tron movie, what concepts would you guys like to see happen and be implemented in the tron universe?
[2023-12-03 18:20:15] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:dgital| Question, if disney made a third Tron movie, what concepts would you guys like to see happen and be implemented in the tron universe?
[2023-12-03 18:38:45] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| capture the flag
[2023-12-03 18:38:45] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| capture the flag
[2023-12-03 18:51:11] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:Deso| tron 3 filming is set to begin after the holidays
[2023-12-03 18:51:11] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| tron 3 filming is set to begin after the holidays
[2023-12-03 19:26:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| tron 3 is going to flop without daft punk
[2023-12-03 19:26:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| tron 3 is going to flop without daft punk
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[2023-12-03 22:31:14] <Lucifer_arma> I'd like them to tell the free software story they started in Tron 2 and then just quit telling
[2023-12-03 22:31:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'd like them to tell the free software story they started in Tron 2 and then just quit telling
[2023-12-03 22:31:45] <Lucifer_arma> I'd like them to comment on the absurdity of granting software patents and then allowing software companies to lock up the source code so we can't see this supposed technology that's been patented
[2023-12-03 22:31:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'd like them to comment on the absurdity of granting software patents and then allowing software companies to lock up the source code so we can't see this supposed technology that's been patented
[2023-12-03 22:32:45] <Lucifer_arma> They're no longer in a position where they can tell a story about the Tron universe with ground-breaking special effects, so to keep the spirit of innovation that Tron carried originally, they need to innovate in their story and get edgy
[2023-12-03 22:32:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| They're no longer in a position where they can tell a story about the Tron universe with ground-breaking special effects, so to keep the spirit of innovation that Tron carried originally, they need to innovate in their story and get edgy
[2023-12-03 22:32:55] <Lucifer_arma> they need to speak truth to power, including their own power
[2023-12-03 22:32:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| they need to speak truth to power, including their own power
[2023-12-03 22:34:30] <Lucifer_arma> and obviously they should put some version of each of the tech giants in there as characters, with their microsoft analog being portrayed as successful still, but something of an also-ran, now that they've been eclipsed by google, apple, and facebook
[2023-12-03 22:34:30] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| and obviously they should put some version of each of the tech giants in there as characters, with their microsoft analog being portrayed as successful still, but something of an also-ran, now that they've been eclipsed by google, apple, and facebook
[2023-12-03 22:34:56] <Lucifer_arma> give us the same old company with the original MCP, but show them struggling to stay relevant the way IBM is struggling now
[2023-12-03 22:34:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| give us the same old company with the original MCP, but show them struggling to stay relevant the way IBM is struggling now
[2023-12-03 22:35:54] <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should write the Tron script I think should be made and go find an agent to sell it
[2023-12-03 22:35:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| maybe I should write the Tron script I think should be made and go find an agent to sell it
[2023-12-03 22:36:21] <Lucifer_arma> ooo, what if we made our own tron movie?  An Armagetron movie?
[2023-12-03 22:36:22] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ooo, what if we made our own tron movie?  An Armagetron movie?
[2023-12-03 22:37:17] <Lucifer_arma> I've already got a cluster.  I could post config files that would allow other people to donate cpu time to the cluster to use as a renderer for such a movie
[2023-12-03 22:37:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've already got a cluster.  I could post config files that would allow other people to donate cpu time to the cluster to use as a renderer for such a movie
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[2023-12-04 04:56:15] <Lucifer_arma> it's kind of silly to get bored at freeciv, so you build a spaceship just to end the game
[2023-12-04 04:56:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's kind of silly to get bored at freeciv, so you build a spaceship just to end the game
[2023-12-04 08:06:39] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| oh i like some of those, the tech giants could be teams with their programs for example
[2023-12-04 08:06:39] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| oh i like some of those, the tech giants could be teams with their programs for example
[2023-12-04 08:10:27] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| and then they can do capture the flag like stealing their fancy code from their city in a heist and escape with light cycles
[2023-12-04 08:10:27] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| and then they can do capture the flag like stealing their fancy code from their city in a heist and escape with light cycles
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[2023-12-04 16:40:33] <Lucifer_arma> ooo, they should reverse the original story.  Instead of a user getting digitized and having to find his way out, the programs should break out into the real world and start wreaking havoc
[2023-12-04 16:40:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ooo, they should reverse the original story.  Instead of a user getting digitized and having to find his way out, the programs should break out into the real world and start wreaking havoc
[2023-12-04 16:40:48] <Lucifer_arma> make it a unique sort of AI apocalpyse story
[2023-12-04 16:40:49] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| make it a unique sort of AI apocalpyse story
[2023-12-04 16:41:13] <Lucifer_arma> so, a few malicious AIs manage to 3d print themselves and go on a crime spree of some sort
[2023-12-04 16:41:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so, a few malicious AIs manage to 3d print themselves and go on a crime spree of some sort
[2023-12-04 16:41:24] <Lucifer_arma> So TRON follows them and hunts them down
[2023-12-04 16:41:25] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| So TRON follows them and hunts them down
[2023-12-04 16:42:32] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:raph.2| Sounds like Westworld
[2023-12-04 16:42:32] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:raph.2| Sounds like Westworld
[2023-12-04 16:43:30] <Lucifer_arma> westworld was an amusement park.  I'm thinking more like Demolition Man, except instead of cryo prisoners, it's programs
[2023-12-04 16:43:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| westworld was an amusement park.  I'm thinking more like Demolition Man, except instead of cryo prisoners, it's programs
[2023-12-04 16:48:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Haven't they already let a program out? That cora/korra/qorra girl was a program, right?
[2023-12-04 16:48:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Haven't they already let a program out? That cora/korra/qorra girl was a program, right?
[2023-12-04 20:06:17] <Lucifer_arma> grrrr.  Why does deploying an app to android have to be such a pain?
[2023-12-04 20:06:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| grrrr.  Why does deploying an app to android have to be such a pain?
[2023-12-04 20:07:31] <Lucifer_arma> I guess the real question is this:  Is building a package for android any more difficult/unnecessarily difficult than building a .deb or .rpm?
[2023-12-04 20:07:31] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I guess the real question is this:  Is building a package for android any more difficult/unnecessarily difficult than building a .deb or .rpm?
[2023-12-04 22:17:17] <Lucifer_arma> serious question:  If a person isn't authorized to access a page, is it better security to return a 404 page, or return a "User not authorized" page?
[2023-12-04 22:17:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| serious question:  If a person isn't authorized to access a page, is it better security to return a 404 page, or return a "User not authorized" page?
[2023-12-04 22:18:16] <Lucifer_arma> for debugging reasons, for now, I'm going to go with the user not authorized, but my gut says the 404 is better.  A malicious user doesn't need to have confirmation that the url is valid, and an unauthorized user doesn't need to know the url exists either
[2023-12-04 22:18:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| for debugging reasons, for now, I'm going to go with the user not authorized, but my gut says the 404 is better.  A malicious user doesn't need to have confirmation that the url is valid, and an unauthorized user doesn't need to know the url exists either
[2023-12-04 22:38:02] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Light| You basically answered yourself. A 404 will make the destination appear invalid while an unauthorized message would give you the idea you could unlock something there. Of course, it depends on what it is. If a regular user may run into it, you may want them to see that they should log in rather than make it seem like the page doesn't exist.
[2023-12-04 22:38:02] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Light| You basically answered yourself. A 404 will make the destination appear invalid while an unauthorized message would give you the idea you could unlock something there. Of course, it depends on what it is. If a regular user may run into it, you may want them to see that they should log in rather than make it seem like the page doesn't exist.
[2023-12-04 22:39:59] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Light| Unless someone specifically targets you though, bots are your most likely attackers, and just having a generally secure site will be fine. The above isn't really additional security, but may trick some users / bots into ditching parts of the site.
[2023-12-04 22:39:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Light| Unless someone specifically targets you though, bots are your most likely attackers, and just having a generally secure site will be fine. The above isn't really additional security, but may trick some users / bots into ditching parts of the site.
[2023-12-04 22:41:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Light| From my experience, the biggest things bots and script kiddies like to attack with are SQL injection and file paths to try and pull passwd files and whatnot.
[2023-12-04 22:41:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Light| From my experience, the biggest things bots and script kiddies like to attack with are SQL injection and file paths to try and pull passwd files and whatnot.
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[2023-12-05 06:39:10] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I need to find/write a wtform validator that watches for sql injection attacks.  I use the proper string replacement in the sql driver, but I want an extra layer there
[2023-12-05 06:39:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yeah, I need to find/write a wtform validator that watches for sql injection attacks.  I use the proper string replacement in the sql driver, but I want an extra layer there
[2023-12-05 06:40:31] <Lucifer_arma> the same locations are already protected by a loginrequired decorator, so if they could use it but they have to login, they'll get that.  I'm also working on hiding links that a user doesn't have authorization to use because it's a giant pet peeve of mine when you can click links just to arrive at an unauthorized page
[2023-12-05 06:40:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the same locations are already protected by a loginrequired decorator, so if they could use it but they have to login, they'll get that.  I'm also working on hiding links that a user doesn't have authorization to use because it's a giant pet peeve of mine when you can click links just to arrive at an unauthorized page
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[2023-12-05 12:06:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm personally taking the approach of returning nothing at all when it comes to the API side, letting the request timeout. There's a number of things attached to the request, though, like fingerprinting and auth tokens, which hopefully should work alongside each other to prevent theft of one or the other. If something doesn't match up, log the request and don't respond. If lots o <clipped message>
[2023-12-05 12:06:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm personally taking the approach of returning nothing at all when it comes to the API side, letting the request timeout. There's a number of things attached to the request, though, like fingerprinting and auth tokens, which hopefully should work alongside each other to prevent theft of one or the other. If something doesn't match up, log the request and don't respond. If lots o <clipped message>
[2023-12-05 12:06:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| f requests are made that don't match up, implement fail2ban and contact the customer.
[2023-12-05 12:06:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| f requests are made that don't match up, implement fail2ban and contact the customer.
[2023-12-05 12:06:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm a bit fo a special case, though, meridian contains a lot of information about a business' internal structure as well as financial data and asset data, so I have to be rather careful about security
[2023-12-05 12:06:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm a bit fo a special case, though, meridian contains a lot of information about a business' internal structure as well as financial data and asset data, so I have to be rather careful about security
[2023-12-05 12:13:19] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| I've seen some stuff return blanket 403 (forbidden) when I mistyped a path to a resource as well, not sure what best practice is though
[2023-12-05 12:13:20] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| I've seen some stuff return blanket 403 (forbidden) when I mistyped a path to a resource as well, not sure what best practice is though
[2023-12-05 12:13:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| It seems to change depending on language, application scope, and user profile
[2023-12-05 12:13:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It seems to change depending on language, application scope, and user profile
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[2023-12-05 22:40:04] <Lucifer_arma> ah, 403 forbidden, of course that's what I should be returning
[2023-12-05 22:40:04] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ah, 403 forbidden, of course that's what I should be returning
[2023-12-05 22:40:30] <Lucifer_arma> because that's also compatible with any software tools a user might want to use to access the site
[2023-12-05 22:40:30] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| because that's also compatible with any software tools a user might want to use to access the site
[2023-12-05 22:42:00] <Lucifer_arma> I know there's a reason why saying nothing is there and returning a 404 is wrong, but I don't remember what the reason is, but it would definitely break some tools you might use to access the site
[2023-12-05 22:42:00] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I know there's a reason why saying nothing is there and returning a 404 is wrong, but I don't remember what the reason is, but it would definitely break some tools you might use to access the site
[2023-12-05 22:42:40] <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't need to be indexed by search engines, though, and that's something that a lot of sites do.  They'll quietly let the crawler in to index the site, but lock out other users who have to login
[2023-12-05 22:42:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it doesn't need to be indexed by search engines, though, and that's something that a lot of sites do.  They'll quietly let the crawler in to index the site, but lock out other users who have to login
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[2023-12-05 23:03:39] <Lucifer_arma> ok, if I decorate a decorator, will the decorators be called?
[2023-12-05 23:03:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, if I decorate a decorator, will the decorators be called?
[2023-12-05 23:04:06] <Lucifer_arma> I should throw something together to test this.  I have two decorators that are useful as separate decorators, but it would be awfully convenient to have one decorator that calls both of them.
[2023-12-05 23:04:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I should throw something together to test this.  I have two decorators that are useful as separate decorators, but it would be awfully convenient to have one decorator that calls both of them.
[2023-12-05 23:06:13] <Lucifer_arma> I should've known, though, that adding multi-user support would be a bit of a can of worms.  I don't really *need* it, but I know people who'd like to use it, and I'd like to be able to see how they're making trading decisions and what the results are
[2023-12-05 23:06:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I should've known, though, that adding multi-user support would be a bit of a can of worms.  I don't really *need* it, but I know people who'd like to use it, and I'd like to be able to see how they're making trading decisions and what the results are
[2023-12-05 23:06:38] <Lucifer_arma> so friends could use the app to make money for themselves, and I can use their decisions to make the app better.  Positive feedback loop.
[2023-12-05 23:06:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so friends could use the app to make money for themselves, and I can use their decisions to make the app better.  Positive feedback loop.

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[2023-12-10 11:05:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Got shuffled a pussycat dolls track and I suddenly realised I haven't seen a cheesy synchronised dance music video in *years*. What happened to this hilarious, lovable nonsense?
[2023-12-10 11:05:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Got shuffled a pussycat dolls track and I suddenly realised I haven't seen a cheesy synchronised dance music video in *years*. What happened to this hilarious, lovable nonsense?
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[2023-12-11 04:12:34] <Lucifer_arma> I hate javascript
[2023-12-11 04:12:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I hate javascript
[2023-12-11 04:13:53] <Lucifer_arma> so I have a ul that's display: none when the page loads.  I'm trying to add an eventlistener to it for clicking the mouse.  When you focus on the text input, the ul appears.  Now you're supposed to click something in it, of course.
[2023-12-11 04:13:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so I have a ul that's display: none when the page loads.  I'm trying to add an eventlistener to it for clicking the mouse.  When you focus on the text input, the ul appears.  Now you're supposed to click something in it, of course.
[2023-12-11 04:14:21] <Lucifer_arma> But the event handler isn't being called.  BUT, when I put it to display: block when the page loads, the event listener attaches fine.
[2023-12-11 04:14:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| But the event handler isn't being called.  BUT, when I put it to display: block when the page loads, the event listener attaches fine.
[2023-12-11 04:15:08] <Lucifer_arma> Then when you click outside and the ul goes back to display: none, the event handler stops working
[2023-12-11 04:15:08] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Then when you click outside and the ul goes back to display: none, the event handler stops working
[2023-12-11 04:47:36] <Lucifer_arma> haha, fixed it
[2023-12-11 04:47:36] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| haha, fixed it
[2023-12-11 04:48:09] <Lucifer_arma> so, the event handler that changed the display property was causing the ul to disappear before the click happened, making the click happen on a different element, thus not triggering the click event handler
[2023-12-11 04:48:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so, the event handler that changed the display property was causing the ul to disappear before the click happened, making the click happen on a different element, thus not triggering the click event handler
[2023-12-11 04:48:20] <Lucifer_arma> I changed how it hides and shows the list and now it works fine
[2023-12-11 04:48:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I changed how it hides and shows the list and now it works fine
[2023-12-11 04:48:32] <Lucifer_arma> I hate javascript
[2023-12-11 04:48:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I hate javascript
[2023-12-11 05:16:43] <Lucifer_arma> html + javascript is still just as whack as ever
[2023-12-11 05:16:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| html + javascript is still just as whack as ever
[2023-12-11 06:08:41] <Lucifer_arma> I shouldn't watch monk while working on webpages.  I'm apparently channeling his ocd into my css
[2023-12-11 06:08:41] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I shouldn't watch monk while working on webpages.  I'm apparently channeling his ocd into my css
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[2023-12-11 15:49:52] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:schplorf| How can i limit the framerate in the game? Right now it renders too fast causing a bunch of nasty coil whine on my GPU
[2023-12-11 15:49:53] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:schplorf| How can i limit the framerate in the game? Right now it renders too fast causing a bunch of nasty coil whine on my GPU
[2023-12-11 16:10:53] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| enable vsync or use experimental 0.4 to limit fps
[2023-12-11 16:10:53] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| enable vsync or use experimental 0.4 to limit fps
[2023-12-11 16:22:28] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:schplorf| According to Nvidia settings vsync is on, I guess I'll try experimental 0.4
[2023-12-11 16:22:28] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:schplorf| According to Nvidia settings vsync is on, I guess I'll try experimental 0.4
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[2023-12-13 13:35:04] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:dgital| Im currently in the process of making a tron inspired visual novel inside that universe, so, any New ideas are welcomed to be taken into consideration
[2023-12-13 13:35:04] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:dgital| Im currently in the process of making a tron inspired visual novel inside that universe, so, any New ideas are welcomed to be taken into consideration
[2023-12-13 13:36:14] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:dgital| And yeah, i like the idea of adding companies like Apple and Microsoft, etc to the story, ill try to at least mention them
[2023-12-13 13:36:15] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:dgital| And yeah, i like the idea of adding companies like Apple and Microsoft, etc to the story, ill try to at least mention them
[2023-12-13 13:57:11] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:dgital| And yeah, this visual novel im working on is gonna be slightly more edgy since its gonna take place in the far future
[2023-12-13 13:57:11] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:dgital| And yeah, this visual novel im working on is gonna be slightly more edgy since its gonna take place in the far future
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[2023-12-14 22:50:06] <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that 0.4 can limit the graphical framerate, but it will limit the simulation framerate, and I think there's a default setting for that.
[2023-12-14 22:50:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I don't know that 0.4 can limit the graphical framerate, but it will limit the simulation framerate, and I think there's a default setting for that.
[2023-12-14 22:51:13] <Lucifer_arma> @dgital: I might consider a bladerunner knockoff using programs.  Since you're going into the far future, you can have holograms instead of my 3d printed programs
[2023-12-14 22:51:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @dgital: I might consider a bladerunner knockoff using programs.  Since you're going into the far future, you can have holograms instead of my 3d printed programs
[2023-12-14 22:52:10] <Lucifer_arma> But you're also looking at cyberpunk ideas.  Programs moving around the network, etc.  The original movie was built on the mainframe model, but now we're a massively distributed network.  It's fair to expect the future network to remain massively distributed, and for there to be new networks springing up on other planets as we move out into the solar system
[2023-12-14 22:52:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| But you're also looking at cyberpunk ideas.  Programs moving around the network, etc.  The original movie was built on the mainframe model, but now we're a massively distributed network.  It's fair to expect the future network to remain massively distributed, and for there to be new networks springing up on other planets as we move out into the solar system
[2023-12-14 22:53:05] <Lucifer_arma> that's another thing the new tron movie didn't consider, even though everyone involved claimed that they did.  But then it was "new life form on a disconnected network".
[2023-12-14 22:53:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that's another thing the new tron movie didn't consider, even though everyone involved claimed that they did.  But then it was "new life form on a disconnected network".
[2023-12-14 22:54:17] <Lucifer_arma> if you're sticking to the TRON universe from the movie, and you're interested in a bladerunner knockoff, then a straightforward story about TRON hunting rogue programs in the real world would be pretty interesting
[2023-12-14 22:54:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| if you're sticking to the TRON universe from the movie, and you're interested in a bladerunner knockoff, then a straightforward story about TRON hunting rogue programs in the real world would be pretty interesting
[2023-12-14 22:54:43] <Lucifer_arma> you'd need to find themes to explore that are new/different from bladerunner, otherwise it's not worth going over the same old ground
[2023-12-14 22:54:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you'd need to find themes to explore that are new/different from bladerunner, otherwise it's not worth going over the same old ground
[2023-12-14 22:55:43] <Lucifer_arma> but let's not forget that TRON is not only a character in the movie, but as a program there's no need for him to grow old, if he's been continuously updated.  You could explore coderot as a theme, which programmers would find interesting and non-programmers need to learn about
[2023-12-14 22:55:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but let's not forget that TRON is not only a character in the movie, but as a program there's no need for him to grow old, if he's been continuously updated.  You could explore coderot as a theme, which programmers would find interesting and non-programmers need to learn about
[2023-12-14 22:56:30] <Lucifer_arma> the movie doesn't predate coderot as a phenomenon, but platforms were changing so quickly when the movie came out that even though coderot was already a thing, it wasn't significant enough to have made it into the movie
[2023-12-14 22:56:30] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the movie doesn't predate coderot as a phenomenon, but platforms were changing so quickly when the movie came out that even though coderot was already a thing, it wasn't significant enough to have made it into the movie
[2023-12-14 22:57:48] <Lucifer_arma> you can also project out from the current wave a fascist sentiment sweeping the western world and have the world be under a fascist system.  Then TRON could be part of a revolution that's happening both in the real world and on the internet
[2023-12-14 22:57:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you can also project out from the current wave a fascist sentiment sweeping the western world and have the world be under a fascist system.  Then TRON could be part of a revolution that's happening both in the real world and on the internet
[2023-12-14 22:58:28] <Lucifer_arma> that could give you a wonderful action-packed climax where TRON and whatever team he assembles (mix of users and programs, of course) go up against the Big Bad for the future of all mankind
[2023-12-14 22:58:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that could give you a wonderful action-packed climax where TRON and whatever team he assembles (mix of users and programs, of course) go up against the Big Bad for the future of all mankind
[2023-12-14 22:59:24] <Lucifer_arma> If you went the hologram route, I'd give TRON powers that correspond to being a hologram.  So while he could do things like shoot lightning bolts/magic missiles at programs, he could also throw arbitrary holograms around that can fool users
[2023-12-14 22:59:25] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| If you went the hologram route, I'd give TRON powers that correspond to being a hologram.  So while he could do things like shoot lightning bolts/magic missiles at programs, he could also throw arbitrary holograms around that can fool users
[2023-12-14 22:59:37] <Lucifer_arma> maybe even give him some transformation abilities
[2023-12-14 22:59:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| maybe even give him some transformation abilities
[2023-12-14 22:59:57] <Lucifer_arma> I'll stop there, before I decide to write the story myself :)
[2023-12-14 22:59:58] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll stop there, before I decide to write the story myself :)
[2023-12-14 23:00:08] * Lucifer_arma already has too many story commitments
[2023-12-14 23:00:08] * armagetronbridge 10irc:Lucifer_arma| already has too many story commitments
[2023-12-14 23:01:34] <Lucifer_arma> ok, one more thing.  the all powerful user (Flynn in the movie) that manages to digitize himself and then get back to the real world the same way the programs do it would have both powers of the real world and of the computer world, and he'd be able to mix the two
[2023-12-14 23:01:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, one more thing.  the all powerful user (Flynn in the movie) that manages to digitize himself and then get back to the real world the same way the programs do it would have both powers of the real world and of the computer world, and he'd be able to mix the two
[2023-12-14 23:01:55] <Lucifer_arma> so if TRON can shoot lightning bolts at programs, the New Flynn would be able to shoot lightning bolts at real people and buildings and cars and shit
[2023-12-14 23:01:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so if TRON can shoot lightning bolts at programs, the New Flynn would be able to shoot lightning bolts at real people and buildings and cars and shit
[2023-12-14 23:02:50] <Lucifer_arma> you'd have to give him a suitable villain pair the complements the TRON/New Flynn pairing so the action-packed climax would be really great
[2023-12-14 23:02:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you'd have to give him a suitable villain pair the complements the TRON/New Flynn pairing so the action-packed climax would be really great

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[2023-12-15 10:23:38] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:talisforj| this bot
[2023-12-15 10:23:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:talisforj| this bot
[2023-12-15 10:23:43] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:talisforj| is crazy lol
[2023-12-15 10:23:43] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:talisforj| is crazy lol
[2023-12-15 10:45:56] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| the bot is the bridge from IRC to discord, the guy typing isn't a bot
[2023-12-15 10:45:56] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| the bot is the bridge from IRC to discord, the guy typing isn't a bot
[2023-12-15 10:46:09] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| @talisforj
[2023-12-15 10:46:09] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| @talisforj
[2023-12-15 10:55:02] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| *that* bot (@wwnelg) is crazy though
[2023-12-15 10:55:02] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| *that* bot (@wwnelg) is crazy though
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[2023-12-15 11:27:59] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:talisforj| irc? @wwnelg
[2023-12-15 11:27:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:talisforj| irc? @wwnelg
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[2023-12-15 18:19:35] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| Yeah the Lucifer_arma bot is crazy...wtf is it connected to chatgpt by any chance? Also Nelg bot is a bit crazy too. Far too many bots here...
[2023-12-15 18:19:36] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| Yeah the Lucifer_arma bot is crazy...wtf is it connected to chatgpt by any chance? Also Nelg bot is a bit crazy too. Far too many bots here...
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[2023-12-15 23:44:55] <Lucifer_arma> I'm a crazy bottie--er, hottie
[2023-12-15 23:44:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm a crazy bottie--er, hottie

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[2023-12-16 07:29:22] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
[2023-12-16 07:29:22] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
[2023-12-16 07:30:18] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| basically an old-school chat platform, this is relayed to #armagetron in OFTC and Libera.chat
[2023-12-16 07:30:18] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| basically an old-school chat platform, this is relayed to #armagetron in OFTC and Libera.chat
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[2023-12-16 10:48:33] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:talisforj| ok thx
[2023-12-16 10:48:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:talisforj| ok thx
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[2023-12-16 22:37:39] <Lucifer_arma> I prefer to think of it as long standing
[2023-12-16 22:37:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I prefer to think of it as long standing

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[2023-12-19 02:08:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| TIL Liz Truss (A recent PM in the UK. *That* PM, yes) apparently wears day collars. That... I don't know what to do with this information.
[2023-12-19 02:08:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| TIL Liz Truss (A recent PM in the UK. *That* PM, yes) apparently wears day collars. That... I don't know what to do with this information.
[2023-12-19 02:16:55] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @northernscrub every time u mention that name u have to put 10 quid in the swear jar
[2023-12-19 02:16:55] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @northernscrub every time u mention that name u have to put 10 quid in the swear jar
[2023-12-19 02:31:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @monkey_arma go look up what a day collar is and tell my it's false tho
[2023-12-19 02:31:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @monkey_arma go look up what a day collar is and tell my it's false tho
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[2023-12-19 04:44:07] <Lucifer_arma> that was information I could've used about a year ago
[2023-12-19 04:44:08] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that was information I could've used about a year ago
[2023-12-19 12:37:19] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| wut
[2023-12-19 12:37:20] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| wut
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[2023-12-19 13:56:13] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @northernscrub Nothing surprises me any more with these people
[2023-12-19 13:56:13] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @northernscrub Nothing surprises me any more with these people
[2023-12-19 17:28:05] <Lucifer_arma> @Juesto: I wanted to put a collar on the chick I was dating, but neither of us liked the collars that came to mind
[2023-12-19 17:28:05] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @Juesto: I wanted to put a collar on the chick I was dating, but neither of us liked the collars that came to mind
[2023-12-19 17:32:52] <Lucifer_arma> I'm sure it'll come in handy at some point, since I keep attracting submissive chicks anyway
[2023-12-19 17:32:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm sure it'll come in handy at some point, since I keep attracting submissive chicks anyway
[2023-12-19 19:07:04] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:dgital| okai, noted, a massively distributed network is the way to go, and oh yeah, i remember blade runner, its quite a good movie, i intended to have everything of the VN happen inside the digital world but ill consider having some stuff happen in the real world since from what you guys tell me it indeed would be very interesting to see. thanks for the advice.
[2023-12-19 19:07:04] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:dgital| okai, noted, a massively distributed network is the way to go, and oh yeah, i remember blade runner, its quite a good movie, i intended to have everything of the VN happen inside the digital world but ill consider having some stuff happen in the real world since from what you guys tell me it indeed would be very interesting to see. thanks for the advice.
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[2023-12-20 16:55:28] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| lol lucifer_arma how come?
[2023-12-20 16:55:28] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| lol lucifer_arma how come?
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[2023-12-20 22:33:27] <Lucifer_arma> @Juesto: best and cleanest answer I'm willing to give is because I'm a pretty assertive and direct person irl, and submissive chicks find that really attractive
[2023-12-20 22:33:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @Juesto: best and cleanest answer I'm willing to give is because I'm a pretty assertive and direct person irl, and submissive chicks find that really attractive
[2023-12-20 22:33:52] <Lucifer_arma> I'm not really all that different in irc or on the grid than I am in real life, tbh
[2023-12-20 22:33:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm not really all that different in irc or on the grid than I am in real life, tbh

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[2023-12-21 03:39:19] <Lucifer_arma> @delinquent: Finally put it on Lulu
[2023-12-21 03:39:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @delinquent: Finally put it on Lulu
[2023-12-21 03:39:21] <Lucifer_arma> https://www.lulu.com/shop/dave-fancella/detective-lindsay-and-the-case-of-the-bicycle-bandit/ebook/product-jeejd8y.html?q=dave+fancella&page=1&pageSize=4
[2023-12-21 03:39:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| https://www.lulu.com/shop/dave-fancella/detective-lindsay-and-the-case-of-the-bicycle-bandit/ebook/product-jeejd8y.html?q=dave+fancella&page=1&pageSize=4
[2023-12-21 03:48:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh cool! I'll pick it up after solstice
[2023-12-21 03:48:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh cool! I'll pick it up after solstice
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[2023-12-21 09:01:37] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:Juesto| ah cool, that's fair enough :)
[2023-12-21 09:01:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:Juesto| ah cool, that's fair enough :)
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[2023-12-24 22:08:52] <Lucifer_arma> holy crap, I just lost a game of freeciv
[2023-12-24 22:08:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| holy crap, I just lost a game of freeciv

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[2023-12-25 11:16:40] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| Merry Christmas everyone!
[2023-12-25 11:16:40] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| Merry Christmas everyone!
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[2023-12-25 19:55:30] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:tonymaNz'| Aww Nelg ❤️
[2023-12-25 19:55:30] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:tonymaNz'| Aww Nelg ❤️

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[2023-12-28 20:35:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @pizzzzzzzaaa did you say you have an alice keyboard IIRC?
[2023-12-28 20:35:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @pizzzzzzzaaa did you say you have an alice keyboard IIRC?
[2023-12-28 20:35:51] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| And if so, is it a keychron?
[2023-12-28 20:35:51] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| And if so, is it a keychron?
[2023-12-28 20:36:33] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| i use a keychron k8
[2023-12-28 20:36:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| i use a keychron k8
[2023-12-28 20:36:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and is it alice layout?
[2023-12-28 20:37:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and is it alice layout?
[2023-12-28 20:37:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i was just wondering as im gonna get a keychron some time in the future and was wondering how alice layout is for tron
[2023-12-28 20:37:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i was just wondering as im gonna get a keychron some time in the future and was wondering how alice layout is for tron
[2023-12-28 20:37:52] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| vs reg
[2023-12-28 20:37:52] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| vs reg
[2023-12-28 20:37:53] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| oh its not alice layout
[2023-12-28 20:37:53] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| oh its not alice layout
[2023-12-28 20:38:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| i think they have the q8 tho oen sec
[2023-12-28 20:38:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| i think they have the q8 tho oen sec
[2023-12-28 20:38:23] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q8-alice-layout-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard
[2023-12-28 20:38:23] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:pizzzzzzzaaa| https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q8-alice-layout-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard
[2023-12-28 20:39:13] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| im holding out for a lemokey (keychron gaming kb) with HE keys..might be a while but i will wait
[2023-12-28 20:39:13] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| im holding out for a lemokey (keychron gaming kb) with HE keys..might be a while but i will wait
[2023-12-28 20:39:44] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ok thx
[2023-12-28 20:39:44] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ok thx

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