Log from 2006-09-03:
--- Day changed Sun Sep 03 2006
00:14 <deja_vu> spidey!
00:15 <deja_vu> spidey: you're not paying attention to me stealing yours >:(
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03:10 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: you *should* be able to declare a variable like that.  How else would you declare one?  hmmm
03:10  * Lucifer_arma goes to download armaspy and try to run it
03:24  * Lucifer_arma has to emerge pykde :/
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: well, haven't got it to run yet becuase I'm emerging pykde, but it at least got past the guilty line in his post.  I'll bet he just copied and pasted it out of the svn browser instead of downloading it like he should've and got the indents fucked up
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05:59 <DrJoeTron> looks like everyone drunk but me tonight
06:07 <luke-jr_> ?
06:22 <DrJoeTron> friends
06:29  * Lucifer_arma isn't drunk
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07:02 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: does it have to be a KDE app?  :/  One of the complaints a lot of us had about iF's armaspy was that it was windows-only...
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07:07 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: there is no cross-DE way to do systray, IIRC
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5307830.stm   <--- Obviously the AI is in control of North Korea
07:08 <luke-jr_> freedesktop may have changed that recently tho
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_: the systray protocol "standard" is supported by both KDE and GNOME, however...
07:08 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: AI has control of US too
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> it is possible to build the GUI itself using something like Qt by itself, and then use platform-specific stuff for systray interaction
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> nah, vanhayes is in control of US
07:09 <luke-jr_> true
07:09 <luke-jr_> lol
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> and Spidey's got Great Britain, hell help us
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft's armaspy advanced uses KDE stuff throughout, though.  Probably he just copied the pyKDE systray example and filled it in, though
07:10 <luke-jr_> heh
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> I like the missile defense system, though.  I think that's just neat.  :)
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> it's an interesting problem to solve, and after they get it solved they can start shrinking it until it can be deployed on carriers and other naval vessels.  Then it'll get damn useful.
07:12 <luke-jr_> who?
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> the Missile Defense Agency?
07:12 <luke-jr_> US? NKorea?
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> the article I linked is NOrth Korea bitching about the US testing its missile defense system
07:13 <luke-jr_> o
07:13 <luke-jr_> I thought Clinton cancelled that?
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's not SDI, and Clinton may have canceled whatever Bush I had going, but George W Bush started it up
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> it uses satellites to track missiles, but ground-based interceptors to do the real work
07:14 <luke-jr_> o
07:14 <Your_mom_arma> they're testing out a system to defend themselves thats like hitting us with a nuke right? Lets just plug out more propaganda.--n korea
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> probably won't work terribly well against sub-based missile launches, but the only people with those (afaik) are still us and Russia
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> so after they get it working and armed enough to actually be effective, to attack the US with missiles you have to hit the satellites first, or hope you can overwhelm the defense system with decoys and stuff
07:16 <Your_mom_arma> for 10billion dollars i want a better chance then 5/9
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> you'll get it, it just takes time
07:16 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: the defense system won't defend the satellites?
07:17 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: time and MORE money =p
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> not that I know of, that's not really needed right yet
07:17 <Your_mom_arma> i wonder why we dont use those 10b$ to get out of debt with other countries
07:17 <luke-jr_> obviously, if the satellites can be attacked to destroy land defense, you need to defend the satellites... =p
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, sure, if we're going to war against China we should think about defending the satellites.  But NOrth Korea?  Come on, they can only hit Japan 5/9 times
07:18 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: what practical effect does that debt have?
07:18 <Your_mom_arma> none reaally i guess
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: that's a bit of a strawman, sorry.  The US is always in debt, but it has *always* paid its debts
07:18 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: China has threatened ;)
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> China has threatened if we do to NK what we did to Iraq, and/or if we step in should they decide to take Taiwan by force.
07:18 <luke-jr_> of course, if they set off an EMP on land, not much to do...
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. China has threatened only if we get in their way.
07:19 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: which Bush would do
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> I would support hiim in that, too.
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> Unless he invoked 9/11 as a reason, like he did in Iraq
07:19 <Your_mom_arma> if korea attacks us first then china will take our side i would hope at least
07:19 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: at the cost of more freedoms?
07:19 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: doubt it, they're communists
07:20 <luke-jr_> IIRC, communists stick together
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> you have to weigh it against permanent costs.  There wasn't any permanent loss of freedom over WWII, but the country was a virtual dictatorship
07:20 <luke-jr_> If China allied with us, it would only be for our money stream
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07:20 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: Bush would do perma
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, China doesn't want to fight us because there's too much trade between us that they depend on, same for us, so we won't attack them
07:20 <Your_mom_arma> i want to like comunism i do it just doesnt work :{
07:21 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: it is evil
07:21 <luke-jr_> just like capitalism
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't work as implemented, anyway.
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> China has as much as said they'll step out of the way if North Korea actually attacks anybody, and if NK uses a nuke china will go in and kick them into line
07:21 <DrJoeTron> http://urbaniak.livejournal.com/53758.html 
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> but as long as NK hasn't actually attacked anybody, China will defend them against invasion
07:22 <luke-jr_> wasn't one of NK's missiles aimed at Hawaii?
07:22 <Your_mom_arma> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/02/the-coolest-video-youll-see-this-year/#comments
07:22 <luke-jr_> you know what country *really* needs to be taken out?
07:22 <luke-jr_> Israel
07:22 <DrJoeTron> this better be true!
07:23 <DrJoeTron> WOAH
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> NK can aim missiles at Hawaii all it wants, but it can't hit it yet, heh
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> Alaska's the only US state in their range so far, based on their own tests
07:24 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: I'd consider the intention worth fighting back =p
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> at least based on the tests they've done that we can see
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> Why isreal?
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> what do you think this missile defense system is all about?
07:24 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: it's a pretty evil country
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> I would think iran is our biggest threat
07:25 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: Israel is a current aggressor to its surrounding nations
07:25 <luke-jr_> not to mention being racist, marxist, and run by Jews
07:25  * Lucifer_arma sees luke-jr_ strapping a bomb on hiimself and blowing up a protestant church
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> since when is run by Jews evil?
07:25 <luke-jr_> Jews are evil
07:25 <GodTodd> heil hitler!
07:25  * Your_mom_arma watches random person connecting to irc with goverment ip
07:25 <Lucifer_arma> right.  Prejudice is a Good Reason for war, always has been always will be
07:26 <Your_mom_arma> heh
07:26 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: Jews are responsible for most wars
07:26 -!- DrJoeTron is now known as Gov_bot
07:26 <Your_mom_arma> "luke-jr_: Jews are evil"
07:26 <luke-jr_> they control the world
07:26  * Lucifer_arma notes the Catholic Church probably still holds the record for the most genocide being inflicted
07:26 <Gov_bot> Crusades are fun! :D
07:26 <luke-jr_> who the heck is GodTodd 
07:26 <luke-jr_> Gov_bot*
07:26 <Lucifer_arma>  *** DrJoeTron is now known as Gov_bot.
07:27  * GodTodd is GodTodd
07:27 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: I know you
07:27 <Gov_bot> go about your typical american activities!
07:27 <luke-jr_> Gov_bot: stop stealing 2-letter aliases!
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> if it weren't for Jews, we wouldn't have Spaceballs, Men in Tights, etc.
07:27 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: small loss
07:27 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr_->the new mel gibson
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> BIG loss
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> Men in Tights is awesome!
07:27  * luke-jr_ pissed at Gibson for apologizing
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> apologizing for getting drunk and saying stupid shit?
07:28 <luke-jr_> ok, so he shouldn't have been drunk
07:28 <luke-jr_> but nothing wrong with speaking the truth
07:28 <Your_mom_arma> heh
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, I realize some of us around here don't have to get drunk to say stupid shit, but Gibson does
07:28 <GodTodd> yeah...cuz drunkenness is MUCH worse than blind hatred.
07:28 <Your_mom_arma> antisemetic luke?
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> he was both drunk and driving
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> he could've killed someone
07:28 <Gov_bot> ya think Your_mom_arma ?
07:28 <GodTodd> maybe he was aiming for a jew
07:28 <luke-jr_> Gibson's one the few well-known Catholics, and he goes about apologizing so as not to offend Jews
07:28 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: not at all
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_ hates everybody, he's like the guy that founded Providence
07:28 <Your_mom_arma> im still trying to get it thru my thick skull
07:28 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: anti-Jewish
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: can't aim when you're drunk...
07:29 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: I have nothing against the semite race.
07:29 <Gov_bot> i like where this channel is going
07:29 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: well, he was drunk...so maybe he THOUGHT he could ;)
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> he was probably aiming at 3 people, heh
07:30 <luke-jr_> kill 3 birds with one stone?
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> *car
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> he wasn't driving a stone.  Drinking and driving a stone isn't illegal anywhere, afaik
07:30 <luke-jr_> sure?
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> maybe in Iran, but drinking is illegal there by itself
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07:31 <luke-jr_> wow, nice
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, Muslim extremists apparently make sensible laws, eh?
07:31 <Your_mom_arma> Gov_bot left the room (quit: ">-;;,ccc3").
07:31 <luke-jr_> a bunch of teens decided to go nude in public in Vermont, BTW
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> you'd probably love being a Muslim extremist.  You're already sexist as hell, and you hate everybody.  What's the real difference?
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> Nothing at all.
07:31 <Your_mom_arma> luke who cares about nudism?
07:32 <luke-jr_> Your_mom_arma: shrug
07:32 <GodTodd> Your_mom_arma: i do! the more the better! heh
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> in Texas people only pay lip service to modesty.  :)
07:32 <luke-jr_> see
07:32 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
07:32 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma, dont you kknow that thats the 11th commandment
07:32 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: meaning?
07:32 <Your_mom_arma> ?
07:32 <DrJoeTron> "Thou shall be ashamed of ones own anatomy"
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> meaning people in Texas dress very sensibly, considering the weather here.
07:32 <DrJoeTron> thats what moral orel taught me
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: does it matter if I have a little dick?  Should I still be ashamed of it?
07:33 <Your_mom_arma> heh
07:33 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: nah, nudity in itself is fine
07:33 <Your_mom_arma> that show is for the weak
07:33 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: the problem is when people around you have dirty minds
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> a little cocaine will clean that right up
07:33 <DrJoeTron> define dirty
07:34 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: lustful
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> brain surgeon forgets to wash his hands
07:34 <Your_mom_arma> disimbowled and on dirt?
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> bad heroin?
07:34 <DrJoeTron> or thinking about gardening?
07:34 <luke-jr_> bad opium?
07:34 <GodTodd> there's bad heroin?
07:34 <Your_mom_arma> sure
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, stuff that's not terribly clean is *dirty*
07:35 <DrJoeTron> is every one drunk tonight?
07:35 <luke-jr_> heroines are all bad cuz they do men's job
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> and that shit goes to your head!
07:35 <luke-jr_> =p
07:35 <Your_mom_arma> no
07:35 <DrJoeTron> ok
07:35 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: mentally, maybe
07:35 <DrJoeTron> it seems like im the only one tonight
07:35  * Lucifer_arma isn't drunk
07:35 <DrJoeTron> ok, finally
07:35  * luke-jr_ might as well be
07:35 <DrJoeTron> ive been getting drunk calls and instant messages all fucking night
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> nah, you don't really want to get any dumber than you already are
07:35 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: what's ur #
07:35  * GodTodd isn't as think as you drunk he is.
07:35 <Your_mom_arma>  luke-jr_: heroines are all bad cuz they do men's job
07:36 <DrJoeTron> 867-5309
07:36 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: area code
07:36 <DrJoeTron> 555
07:36 <luke-jr_> bs
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> is that eat shit?
07:36 <GodTodd> he lives with jenny ;)
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> no, nvm
07:36 <DrJoeTron> thats jenny's number :p
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:36 <luke-jr_> who
07:36 <DrJoeTron> i got her number guys
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> talk show jenny?
07:36 <Your_mom_arma> 362-4368?
07:36 <luke-jr_> my sister?
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> your sister has a trash tv show?
07:36 <DrJoeTron> all can be ight!
07:36 <GodTodd> you wanna do what to your sister?
07:37 <DrJoeTron> right*
07:37 <luke-jr_> lol
07:37 <luke-jr_> what's DrJoeTron 's phone #
07:37 <luke-jr_> incl area code
07:37 <DrJoeTron> yeah, dont call me
07:37 <GodTodd> 123-456-7890
07:37 <Your_mom_arma> dirty deeds
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma already gave part of it
07:37 <luke-jr_> if DrJoeTron tells me first, I call once
07:37 <luke-jr_> if not, I tell comp to call him all night
07:37 <DrJoeTron> that sounds like black mail
07:37 <luke-jr_> and leave messages w/ music
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> #google DrJoeTron's phone number
07:37 <luke-jr_> lol
07:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: No matches found. (Search took 0.42 seconds)
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> he doesn't have one
07:38 <DrJoeTron> i traded it for a vcr
07:38  * luke-jr_ tells the computer to try 362-4368 in every area code
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> don't know if you got a good deal, hmmmm
07:38 <DrJoeTron> it seemed right at the time
07:38 <GodTodd> #google luke-jr_'s morality
07:38 <DrJoeTron> it came with billy madison stuck in it
07:38 <Your_mom_arma> i wish i had that phone number
07:38 <armabot> GodTodd: No matches found. (Search took 0.31 seconds)
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bad then
07:38 <GodTodd> ha! i was right! luke has no morality!
07:38 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: I'm immortal! =p
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> would have been better if you'd have gotten something from that Jewish guy
07:39 <GodTodd> ummm MORALity
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> he can't spell either, apparently
07:39 <luke-jr_> no, morality is God's, not mine
07:39 <GodTodd> like...sense of right and wrong
07:39 <luke-jr_> =p
07:39 <DrJoeTron> God?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> he's Dr. Righteous
07:39 <DrJoeTron> BONO!?
07:39 <luke-jr_> kami!?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> He's got the answer, to all my problems
07:39 <Your_mom_arma> bono pff
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> says he'll decide what I should hear and see
07:39 <DrJoeTron> bono thinks he's god
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> I try to turn to another station
07:39 <DrJoeTron> so he must be
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> all I get is more of his morality
07:40 <luke-jr_> what does foobar mean?
07:40 <DrJoeTron> man god sure did change his tone when he had that kid of his
07:40 <GodTodd> it means fubar
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> fubar = fucked up beyond all recognition
07:40 <GodTodd> yeah...that
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> fatherhood does that to you
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> I mellowed a bit too, you know
07:40 <luke-jr_>             echo "You are not licensed to use this software."
07:41 <DrJoeTron> ive been told ive mellowed since high school
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> that usually means you've wussed out
07:41 <DrJoeTron> yeah, i know
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> have you wussed out, DrJoeTron ?
07:41 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:41 <DrJoeTron> fuck no, im a BAD DUDE
07:41 <Your_mom_arma> barf Throws coins
07:41 <luke-jr_> DrJoeTron: wuss
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> My name is. Can i ask you?  <-- errrr, what?
07:42 <luke-jr_>             echo "develop free software."
07:42 <luke-jr_>         echo "Invalid license key. Please check the license key."
07:42 <Your_mom_arma> ?
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?  we care....?
07:42 <GodTodd> i think luke needs rebooted....
07:42 <luke-jr_>     elif [ "$PLATFORM_MAC" = "yes" ]; then
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> luke's having an argument with some stupid program and he has to nag us with it?
07:43 <Your_mom_arma> what are you guys talking about.. you lost me
07:43 <DrJoeTron> yeah me too
07:43 <Your_mom_arma> ah
07:43 <luke-jr_> OPT_CONFIRM_LICENSE=no
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> he's apparently writing a shell script here instead of in his text editor
07:43 <DrJoeTron> im gonna look up new drum kits in the mean time
07:43 <luke-jr_> # check SQL drivers, mouse drivers and decorations available in this package
07:43 <armabot> luke-jr_: No spelling suggestion made.  This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for Google to figure out.
07:43 <DrJoeTron> got my eyes set on this Pearl ELX
07:43 <luke-jr_> armabot: stfu
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> mmmm, pearl
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> you're a drummer, joe?
07:43 <luke-jr_>             CFG_UNIVERSAL_BINARY="$VAL"
07:44 <DrJoeTron> 10 years :D
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> STOP THAT
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> drums are fun :)
07:44 <luke-jr_>     # symlink the mkspecs directory
07:44 <DrJoeTron> you bet
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> you should move to Austin now so we can start a band :)
07:44 <luke-jr_>         PLATFORM=hurd-g++
07:44 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
07:44 <Your_mom_arma> i need to practice playing guitar more
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'll play bass, you play drums, we don't need anything else
07:44 <DrJoeTron> yeah man
07:44 <luke-jr_>     echo "   Please contact qt-bugs@trolltech.com."
07:44  * GodTodd sends luke to Isreal.
07:44 <Lucifer_arma>  /ignore luke-jr_ 
07:44  * luke-jr_ stopped
07:45 <DrJoeTron> im not the biggest fan of pearl
07:45 <luke-jr_> you were supposed to guess where it came from
07:45 <DrJoeTron> but this ELX sounds great
07:45 <Your_mom_arma> trolltech i think they're just messing with you now
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> that assumes we cared in the first place
07:45 <DrJoeTron> and my uncle is sponsored by them so i can get deals too
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: you actually seen it, or just looking at a catalog?
07:45 <DrJoeTron> seen it
07:45 <luke-jr_> aww it could be a game
07:45 <DrJoeTron> and now im looking it up
07:45  * GodTodd writes another commandment: "Thou shalt not spam irc with inane shit."
07:46 <DrJoeTron> my uncle was in a one-hit-wonder band
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> really?  which one?
07:46 <DrJoeTron> Ides of March
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> hahahahahaha
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> I'm your Vehicle baby
07:46 <DrJoeTron> hahaha yeah!
07:46 <DrJoeTron> small world isnt it
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> that song rocks!
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> I love that song!  :)
07:46 <DrJoeTron> yeah, my uncles the drummer
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's got great horns, man
07:47 <DrJoeTron> haha
07:47 <luke-jr_> ...
07:47 <luke-jr_> so DrJoeTron listens to it
07:47 <DrJoeTron> i did!
07:47 <luke-jr_> I know
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> admittedly my first exposure to it was when we played it in high school marching band, heh
07:47 <DrJoeTron> i know you can see what im listening to
07:47 <luke-jr_> I know everything DrJoeTron listens to =p
07:47 <luke-jr_> cuz it pops up that little box on my screen
07:48 <luke-jr_> and says so
07:48 <DrJoeTron> haha really? 
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :)
07:48 <luke-jr_> yes
07:48 <DrJoeTron> yeah i know, its a a feature on google talk
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> it was a lot of fun
07:48 <DrJoeTron> marching band ruined alot of bands for me
07:48 <luke-jr_> I don't use GTalk =p
07:48 <DrJoeTron> chicago being one of them
07:48 <luke-jr_> it's a Psi feature too =p
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, can't listen to Hip to Be Square anymore, that's for sure, but other than that, marching band and later the symphonic shit just opened up worlds for me
07:49 <DrJoeTron> it almost ruined Tower of Power for me
07:49 <DrJoeTron> and earth wind and fire
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> my brother ruined more bands for me than anything else with his crazy blues shit
07:49 <DrJoeTron> haha
07:49 <DrJoeTron> what did you play in band?
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> "Man, you're not playing real guitar if you're not playing blues, here, I'll play a shitty rendition of something I never heard before so you can see what I mean"
07:49  * Lucifer_arma played clarinet
07:49 <DrJoeTron> hahaha!
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> because my mom thought drums weren't a real instrument
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> and I've been holding it against her ever since
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> what did you play?
07:50 <DrJoeTron> cymbals 1 year, quad 2 years, and then lead snare 1 year
07:50 <DrJoeTron> quads are fun as all hell
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> heh, you probably had a lot of real fun then.  :)
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> those are toms, right?
07:50 <DrJoeTron> yeah
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> and they sound really neat.  :)
07:51 <DrJoeTron> we got in sooo much trouble
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> drummers always get in trouble
07:51 <DrJoeTron> not just tee hee shit
07:51 <DrJoeTron> oh man one year for doing drills
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> it goes with the territory.  I mean, come on, you guys are the least respected people in the band, but the ones the band needs the most
07:52  * Your_mom_arma has heard band stories from DrJoeTron before
07:52 <luke-jr_> drums aren't an instrument
07:52 <luke-jr_> they're percussion =p
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> ok, now I'm realling ignoring luke-jr_ 
07:52 <luke-jr_> aww
07:52 <DrJoeTron> best one ever was when we had to spell ROCK on a football field
07:52 <Your_mom_arma> haha
07:52 <DrJoeTron> well when you know how to talk to people, that "R" can easily be changed to a "C"
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> and you accidentally spell it with an F and a U?
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> haha, did you really spell COCK on the field during a real show?
07:53 <DrJoeTron> rehearsel with a bunch a parents comming by to watch
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:53 <Your_mom_arma> its still funny
07:53  * Lucifer_arma notes his band never spelled words
07:53 <DrJoeTron> neither did we after that
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:54 <DrJoeTron> yeah luke-jr_ you're pretty much dead to me
07:54 <DrJoeTron> yeah Your_mom_arma  has heard some of my stories
07:54 <DrJoeTron> getting suspended being involved
07:54  * Lucifer_arma doesn't have any fun stories about his marching band, a bunch of uptight pricks they were
07:54 <DrJoeTron> oh we had them
07:55 <DrJoeTron> we even had our own "percussion room"
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> I cut out after the second semester of marching and went into computers for awhile instead
07:55 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: what do you expect in an uptight prick of a town? :P
07:55 <DrJoeTron> we brought in a recliner, tv N64, and an ice crusher
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, this is like 90% uptight pricks, 9% just-like-luke-jr
07:55 <DrJoeTron> most was removed cept for the ice crusher and the recliner
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> and of the remaining 1%, apparently there was only 1 person not too wussy to speak up, and I quit after 2 semesters (I already said that)
07:56 <DrJoeTron> because someone burnt popcorn and we kept watching movies full blast
07:56 <DrJoeTron> jurassic park was too loud :/
07:56 <GodTodd> you didn't tell them you were studying the drumwork in the soundtrack?
07:57 <DrJoeTron> well see this was when he was cool
07:57 <Your_mom_arma> good answer godtodd
07:57 <DrJoeTron> we would talk to him about star wars and nes games
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't work, though.  I tried playing ...And Justice for All and got in trouble.  That's like the most fun, really.
07:57 <DrJoeTron> and his brand new 9200!
07:58 <DrJoeTron> so he can play AVP on his pc
07:58 <DrJoeTron> he was pulling the "im your friend AND Teacher! :D :D!
07:58 <DrJoeTron> which didnt work
07:58 <DrJoeTron> and ended up getting us suspended because it shifted to fast
07:58 <DrJoeTron> mom knows THAT story
07:59 <DrJoeTron> he was a fairly young guy
07:59 <DrJoeTron> he was like 28 when i left
08:00 <Your_mom_arma> its a good story
08:00 <DrJoeTron> they're running the whole marathon of supergroup
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08:25 <Your_mom_arma> you can see his stripes but you know he's mean
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> you know GWAR's an Austin band, right?  ;)
08:25  * Your_mom_arma doesnt really like gwar
08:26 <DrJoeTron> you go for their shows
08:26 <DrJoeTron> their shows are wild
08:26  * Lucifer_arma never really gave them much of a listen, but they don't play either
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> they're just KISS in metal, just a spectacle.  Go see them the same reasons you go to the circus
08:26 <Your_mom_arma> haha
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> I actually thought kiss was the best when they took off their makeup, I'm such a heretic
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> man, someone in the parking lot at my school was blasting Cruel Summer the other day in the parking lot
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> got that damn xylophone line stuck in my head for hours
08:28  * Lucifer_arma loves 80s chick rock
08:29 <DrJoeTron> haha
08:29 <DrJoeTron> like styx and asia?
08:37 <Your_mom_arma> joe wait, your quitting arma because swampland and shrunkland are filled with 13 year olds?
08:37 <Your_mom_arma> you only found that out now?
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> styx isn't chick rock and they're not 80s :)
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> I do like the half of Mr Roboto that isn't cheezy love songs and I'm not ashamed to admit it
08:38 <Your_mom_arma> cher?
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> 70s
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> banarama, the bangles, Vixen, a few others
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> Pat Benatar did most of her stuff in the 80s
08:39 <Your_mom_arma> Bananarama mixtape
08:39 <GodTodd> go-gos!
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> I love the Hero song but I don't remember who did that
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the Go-Gos and Belinda Carlisle when she went solo
08:40 <DrJoeTron> sort of, i mean i ended up kicking all of them out
08:40 <DrJoeTron> but when thats all you see all day
08:40 <GodTodd> i dunno tho....walk like an egyptian has always annoyed me for some reason...
08:40 <DrJoeTron> it turns into not very fun fast
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> Manic Monday's a fun song :)
08:40 <GodTodd> i like that one
08:40 <Your_mom_arma> pretty much why fortress was fun
08:40 <Your_mom_arma> its a double edge sword
08:40 <DrJoeTron> heh
08:41 <DrJoeTron> yeah tahts why i went to fortress
08:41 <Your_mom_arma> dont know how to grind = kick
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> and the one that goes "I need a hero"
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> I forget who did it, was it Tina Turner?
08:41 <Your_mom_arma> that song makes me think of someone running in place
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> I love the song she did for Thunderdome, but I don't remember it right now
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> Seattle (the good thing they had) had an 80s rock station that played a lot of it, and it was fun
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> then it switched to some other format and started sucking like all the rest of the radio up there
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> and "ain't nothing gonna breaka my stride!  Ain't nothing gonna slow me down, oh no, I've got to keep on movin'!"
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> only I think a man sang it, heh
08:44 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.olga.net/   <--- this is annoying as shit
08:45 <GodTodd> shit's not really annoying....stinky tho :/
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> I need someone to jam with :/
08:47 <DrJoeTron> does too :/
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> heh, move to austin :)
08:47 <DrJoeTron> move to chicago ;)
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> no chance man.  I need lower lattitudes or my sleep gets all fucked up
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> I'd go further south if that didn't mean moving to Mexico
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> when I lived in Seattle, in the summer time I'd be awake for 30 hours and then sleep for 10
08:49 <GodTodd> heh....texas goes a looooooot further south :P
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> in the winter it was the reverse.  It sucked hardcore
08:49 <DrJoeTron> you're in the same time zone man
08:49 <DrJoeTron> i'll show you how to have a good time in the snow ;)
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> longitude isn't the problem, it's latitude
08:50 <DrJoeTron> man north its where its at
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> there's not a lot of variation between day lengths here, but it's still enough to screw me for Christmas, but it's not that bad
08:50 <DrJoeTron> winters are really bleak here
08:50 <DrJoeTron> like especially february
08:50 <DrJoeTron> like the sun?
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> it's like this.  If I lived in Alaska, I'd sleep 3 months out of the year and I'd be awake for 3 months.  That's one day.
08:50 <DrJoeTron> bet you dont!
08:50 <Lucifer_arma> I like regular sleep cycles, that's what I like.
08:51 <DrJoeTron> its not THAT extreme
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it is, actually.  :(
08:51 <DrJoeTron> in chicago?
08:51 <DrJoeTron> trust me
08:51 <DrJoeTron> ive been in houstin
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> well, no, but it'd be like living in Seattle again
08:51 <DrJoeTron> nope
08:51 <DrJoeTron> we're farther down
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> maybe less rain, but the sun still does the same shit
08:51 <DrJoeTron> seattle is fucking bleak has hell
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> really?  how much farther down?  a couple of degrees?  How long is the summer solstice compared to the winter solstice?
08:52 <DrJoeTron> the shortest day here is like 8 to 4
08:52 <DrJoeTron> for winter solstive
08:52 <DrJoeTron> c*
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> and the longest is like 6am->2am?
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> I might be exaggerating seattle a little bit
08:52 <DrJoeTron> #g summer solstice in illinois
08:52 <armabot> Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
08:53 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt exsist
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> [CHI]  41.90   87.65  Chicago,IL
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> [SEA]  47.45  122.30  Seattle,WA
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> just under 6 degrees
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> [AUS]  30.30   97.70  Austin,TX
08:54 <DrJoeTron> wow now way
08:54 <DrJoeTron> no*
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> let's see now
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> s = r-theta, right?  but r has to be in radians
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> #g 6 degrees in radians
08:55 <armabot> 6 degrees = 0.104719755 radians
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> er, theta has to be in radians
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> #g radius of earth
08:55 <armabot> radius of Earth = 6,378.1 kilometers
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> #g radius of earth in miles
08:55 <armabot> radius of Earth = 3,963.1676 miles
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> #g 0.104719755 * 3,963.1676
08:55 <armabot> 0.104719755 * 3,963.1676 = 415.02194
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> so 415 miles n/s between seattle and chicago
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> #g 11 degrees in radians
08:56 <armabot> 11 degrees = 0.191986218 radians
08:56 <DrJoeTron> ...road trip?
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> #g 0.191986218 * 3,963.1676
08:56 <armabot> 0.191986218 * 3,963.1676 = 760.873559
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> 760 miles n/s between Austin and Chicago
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> no, s = r-theta is arclength on a circle
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> if the angle is 2pi, then you the arclength formula becomes the circumference formula
08:58  * Lucifer_arma just threw trig at a drummer, hopes he didn't hurt hiim
08:59  * Lucifer_arma wants to study spherical trig, that looks really neat.
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> Brownsville is the southern-most city in Texas, right?
09:00 <DrJoeTron> hahah
09:01 <DrJoeTron> doesnt now
09:01 <DrJoeTron> know*
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> that's only at 25.9 degrees
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> the earth's only inclined at 7.25 degrees or so
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> nvm, 23.5 degrees is the tilt
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> in relation to the sun.  So there you go.  I'm right now about 7 degrees north of where the days are about 12/12 day/night
09:05 <DrJoeTron> haha
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I'm in the subtropical zone, and you're in the "temperate" zone
09:10 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i'm using pykde because i wanted a KDE app :P
09:11 <wrtlprnft> and actually most of the stuff is from menusample.py :P
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: I'm not objecting to using pyKDE.  :)  I'm objecting to marrying it.  You can get KDE integration and still have most of the program be more portable.
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> but it's yours, so it's up to you what to do with it, of course.
09:11 <wrtlprnft> well, does QT support tray icons?
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> I was considering hacking together a big main window for you, but got stuck on all the kde stuff
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> no, Qt doesn't, you'd have to do the tray icon in a platform abstraction layer
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> pyXlib or whatever it's called might get you tray icons a different way
09:12 <wrtlprnft> currently the app consists only of a tray icon
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but it would be neat if it showed a nice list of servers in the main window complete with website links, stats, and stuff
09:14 <wrtlprnft> but sure you could make a QT main window for me :P
09:14 <DrJoeTron> how about a net jam :p
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd be happy to, but I don't know enough pyKDE to split out the tray stuff to do it.  :/
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: latency is the issue there
09:14 <DrJoeTron> oh i totally know
09:14 <DrJoeTron> from where you are
09:15 <wrtlprnft> the reason why I don't think a big main window is that important is the fact that there a plenty of online server viewers
09:15 <DrJoeTron> shit on teamspeak its horrible
09:15 <DrJoeTron> we tried fortress
09:15 <DrJoeTron> its like a 2-4 second delay
09:15 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetron.de/monitor.html
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: yeah, but there's nothing that's really interactive.  :)  It wouldn't take you much to do the one that rules them all
09:15 <wrtlprnft> http://electricpotential.net/servers.php
09:16 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/serverlist.php
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, what else would you put in the main window then?
09:17 <wrtlprnft> a confi screen?
09:17 <wrtlprnft> *config
09:17 <wrtlprnft> where you can set your favorite servers, for examples
09:17 <wrtlprnft> those would have a star in front of them in the menu and appear even if they're empty
09:17 <wrtlprnft> or a regex- based buddy list
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> that does limit the app down to pretty much just what it does now, which isn't necessarily a bad thing
09:18 <wrtlprnft> so if those people are online it hilights them in the player list
09:18 <wrtlprnft> or things like a map editor
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> right, maybe pop up a bubble or something like Kopete does to tell you when your watched buddies are online
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> I always thought a map editor in armaspy was out of place, heh
09:19 <wrtlprnft> probably is
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> not that a map editor wouldn't fit in there, just that it seemed like there was a lot of other stuff more worthwhile putting there first
09:19 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i should make it a seperate app
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> also, if it's going to be Qt-based, it should probably be Qt4 so you can release under Windows (assuming someone builds it for windows, of course)
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> don't know how the interaction between Qt4 and pyKDE is though, pyKDE has to be tied to KDE version pretty seriously for obvious reasons
09:20 <wrtlprnft> i can convert all the KBlah classes i have right now to QBlah
09:20 <wrtlprnft> with the exeption of KSystray
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> I got stuck on the KActionList part and was looking at pretty much rewriting what you had, which I didn't really feel like doing
09:21 <wrtlprnft> g2g now, sorry
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> then started wondering over to my budget program, heh.  I really need to finish where I was at so I can start using it.
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> ko
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, it's a neat little app, I'd like to help but don't know enough about pyKDE to really jump in, and don't have time to learn it right now :/
09:22 <DrJoeTron> ko is fun to say :D
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> you know what else is fun to say?
09:23 <DrJoeTron> toothbrush!
09:23 <DrJoeTron> erm
09:30 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron eats CockTron
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> heh, you should change your name to Jonny CockTron
09:33 <DrJoeTron> this should get all of the chicks
09:34 <DrJoeTron> man why is arma getting so retarded
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> it's not, we're just in a low part of the player cycle.  It'll turn back up eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later
09:34 <DrJoeTron> and oh god, fucking audrey, i usually dont have a problem with him, but he sure needs a brick to head when he starts fights out of sheer boredom
09:35 <DrJoeTron> Player 1: Hi 
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, maybe someone should start plotting number of smegheads vs non-smegheads over time so we can get an idea what the function actually looks like
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> Audrey: You fucking stupid dickhead
09:35 <DrJoeTron> haha thank you
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> Audrey: I'm smarter than you'll ever think you are
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> Audrey: Is "Hi" all you can say?
09:36 <DrJoeTron> nothing was greater than catching audrey being racist
09:36 <DrJoeTron> which is the only policy i have on my server
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> why is he still playing?  He's like pissed off everyone around here, he can't be welcome anywhere now, why's he still play?
09:36 <DrJoeTron> the term "white trash" is technically racial banter
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, my family's white trash, so is it racist if I call someone else white trash?
09:37 <DrJoeTron> yup
09:37 <DrJoeTron> its the white part
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, come on man, my parents live in a trailer and my mom works at wal-mart
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> of course, my sister's a chemist, I'm a programmer, and one of my brothers has the security company watching Virgin Galactic's hangar :)
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> so I guess it's more like "my parents are white trash", heh
09:38 <DrJoeTron> haha
09:38 <DrJoeTron> but yeah
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> would you kick me for going in there as Peckerwood?  That's one of my favorite aliases!
09:39 <DrJoeTron> audrey only comes on when he see's invader, fonkay, or I  on
09:39 <DrJoeTron> and when he isnt on a mean streak he usually talks to me about video games
09:40 <DrJoeTron> in which is really pleasent
09:40 <DrJoeTron> but man
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> he quit being capable of holding a conversation with me a long time ago.  He doesn't disagree with people very well at all.
09:40 <Lucifer_arma> if he could just agree to disagree, he'd be fine.  But he can't.  He's worse than luke-jr_ with always needing to be right
09:41 <DrJoeTron> yeah he does
09:41 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, as soon as you dare suggest he might be wrong, he starts ranting about all the idiots in the world (and it includes you because you hinted you might think he ws wrong)
09:42 <DrJoeTron> and then when he gets pinned he pulls the "i'm innocent and have done nothing" card
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I don't have a problem with strong opinions, I've got plenty of my own.  But I'm no stockpile of wisdom or anything, and neither is he.
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they call that the Martyr Syndrome, heh.  (I just made that up)
09:43 <DrJoeTron> pretty much
09:43 <DrJoeTron> thats what i called him too
09:43 <DrJoeTron> he found out the password for my server
09:43 <DrJoeTron> because invader fucked it up
09:43 <DrJoeTron> and started using it on my mods
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> heh, he was the guy that figured it out?
09:43 <DrJoeTron> nah
09:43 <DrJoeTron> turned out the little shit kid never did
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'd firewall hiim out of my server
09:44 <DrJoeTron> he just said he did and changed his name to Admin
09:44 <DrJoeTron> either way the kid was banned
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, pretending to be Admin is a banning offense
09:44 <DrJoeTron> he said the password was "lobbyfun"
09:45 <DrJoeTron> oh well
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> you really need to upgrade.  Borking the password doesn't throw it out for all to see anymore
09:45 <DrJoeTron> its 2.8.2 man
09:45 <DrJoeTron> invader just is a klutz
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> how could invader fuck that up?
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, that's F3->type password here
09:45 <DrJoeTron> he some how did it
09:46 <DrJoeTron> i mean audrey hinted to me "y'know vader has been pretty sloppy with the password"
09:46 <DrJoeTron> i just looked the other way
09:46 <DrJoeTron> but man
09:46 <DrJoeTron> i dont think ive ever been more pissed
09:46 <DrJoeTron> about that game
09:46 <DrJoeTron> i couldnt do anything because i wanted to still play at swampland
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, you know, I think the password and all remote admin should be handled in the console instead
09:46 <DrJoeTron> shrunkland*
09:46 <DrJoeTron> you think?
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> silly doesn't have the shrunkland password anymore, does he?
09:46 <DrJoeTron> YOU THINK
09:46 <DrJoeTron> nope!
09:47 <DrJoeTron> it was swampy, silly, and i
09:47 <DrJoeTron> now its just swampy and i
09:47 <DrJoeTron> it should ALWAYS have been through the console
09:48 <DrJoeTron> speaking of
09:48  * Lucifer_arma notes he's never handed out the remote admin password for his server
09:48 <DrJoeTron> i do, i dont really care anymore
09:49 <DrJoeTron> and i dont want jerks on my server
09:49 <DrJoeTron> the only person who was over kill was kamp
09:49 <Lucifer_arma> well, when I decided I was tired of the headache of running a server I just took mine down
09:49 <Lucifer_arma> nobody's complained yet.  I swear, people bitched when I ran my server, and when I took it down they all got quiet.
09:49 <DrJoeTron> oh trust me
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> Why bother bitching if you hated it so much you don't care if it's gone?
09:50 <DrJoeTron> i took all of your users thats why :p
09:50 <DrJoeTron> i think theres a decline in high speed servers comming up
09:50 <DrJoeTron> alot of people keep asking me how to run a server per usual
09:51 <DrJoeTron> and all are wanting to be low speeds
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> well, as long as the game is full of people who classify servers as either "rubber" or "fortress", I'm in no hurry to fire up my client
09:51 <DrJoeTron> and smaller grid
09:51 <DrJoeTron> im trying to rid of them
09:51 <DrJoeTron> but trying too nicely
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> what do you call a low-rubber server without fortress zones?
09:52 <DrJoeTron> BORING DURRR
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:52 <DrJoeTron> Imma play socom now lol
09:52 <DrJoeTron> and the halo
09:52 <DrJoeTron> oh man
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> I just got so tired of everyone bitching and/or attacking people I figured I had better things to do.  I'll try to make the game itself better, but man, fuck the players.
09:53 <DrJoeTron> yeah its turning into the angsty teen bitch line
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to worry about local game, seriously.  Good AIs and puzzles and stuff to solve, that's what I want now, so I can play by myself.
09:53 <DrJoeTron> please do so
09:53 <DrJoeTron> because multiplay is nothing without single play
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately, the code is so internet-play-specific that it's going to be awhile, and a lot of work, if it ever happens :/
09:54 <DrJoeTron> oh well
09:54 <DrJoeTron> and clans man
09:54 <DrJoeTron> Clans
09:54 <DrJoeTron> why
09:54 <DrJoeTron> they dont stop
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> clans are sprouting up like cancers
09:54 <DrJoeTron> yeah
09:55 <DrJoeTron> really
09:55 <DrJoeTron> i saw a new one dubbed "the dudes"
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> I think we got invaded by frat-boys
09:55 <GodTodd> insecure people have an innate need to "belong"?
09:55 <DrJoeTron> frat-boys woduld be much better than 14 year olds from Mr. Ferridorths Health Class
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know what it is, man.  I think they are insecure kids, because every clan is all about being better than everyone else.
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> There's no fun in it anymore, now it's all about superiority
09:56 <DrJoeTron> its not even that man
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> and the racism and prejudice in the game has skyrocketed
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> when I started playing, it was a very tolerant and welcoming community
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> now if you suggest tolerance, "stfu no0b"
09:56 <DrJoeTron> i ask them all the time "so what do you guys do" ...."i dnt no, lol ur ghey"
09:57 <DrJoeTron> see thats the thing
09:57 <DrJoeTron> im either exremely nice and very helping
09:57 <Lucifer_arma> or really pissy and mean, I've seen :)
09:57  * Lucifer_arma is the same way
09:57 <DrJoeTron> or "im totally going to run your sorry ass into the ground"
09:58 <DrJoeTron> we should run a server :D
09:58 <DrJoeTron> Lobster Pipe
09:58 <DrJoeTron> or Crack Lobster 
09:59 <DrJoeTron> Crobster Page?
09:59 <DrJoeTron> :\
10:00 <Lucifer_arma> Lobsters on Crack?
10:00 <DrJoeTron> there we go
10:00 <GodTodd> they'd be too skinny :/
10:00 <DrJoeTron> im thinkin crack settings with a 2 second single use turbo
10:00 <DrJoeTron> -15 
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> you know, if you me and swampy went in and started working on a server(s) together we might be able to straighten out a little niche in the community
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> might have fun servers again, I don't know
10:01 <DrJoeTron> i'd totally be down for that
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> I could bring up a new server for that
10:02 <DrJoeTron> this sounds like a super server in the making
10:02 <DrJoeTron> only we will be good
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, I'm really into team play now
10:02 <Lucifer_arma> we could go with team slaughter, the old team-style games
10:03 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
10:03 <DrJoeTron> is there a way to set it up so it switches around?
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> map rotation?
10:03 <DrJoeTron> yeah
10:03 <DrJoeTron> like
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> sure, I've got a program that does it.  It's currently match-based, though.
10:03 <Lucifer_arma> so you play the same map for the whole match.
10:03 <DrJoeTron> thats perfect
10:03 <DrJoeTron> i was also thinking
10:04 <DrJoeTron> is there a way to toggle it so its teams one match and then single play next
10:04 <DrJoeTron> i think that would be the greatest
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> technically yes, but I'm not sure how the game would compensate it
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> we'd need to test it, but I don't see why not.  The program lets you associate a settings file with a map
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> so you can change any setting you want between matches :)
10:05 <DrJoeTron> great!
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'll email swampy and see wht he thinks about it
10:05 <DrJoeTron> alright
10:05 <DrJoeTron> il thro up the teamspeak server too
10:05 <DrJoeTron> gomes doesnt give a shit
10:06 <DrJoeTron> he wants a community for it
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10:07 <Lucifer_arma> I can host a webserver for it, errr, website, or whatever.  I don't have a lot of time to develop it, though, so if you know someone who'd be willing....
10:15 <DrJoeTron> to run the actual server?
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> to make the website
10:16 <DrJoeTron> i spose i could
10:16 <DrJoeTron> what would you want for it?
10:17 <DrJoeTron> my knowledge in web design is pretty limited
10:17 <DrJoeTron> but i know enough
10:17 <DrJoeTron> to get something up
10:17 <DrJoeTron> www.w-w-c.net is my site
10:18 <DrJoeTron> i just use tables and photoshop the world
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, ideal is something for Drupal, because that lets us have our own little forums and add articles and stuff
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> that's the thing stopping me from setting up a swamplords site, I don't have time to build the template
10:21 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
10:21 <DrJoeTron> theres cutenews
10:21 <DrJoeTron> but that involves php
10:21 <DrJoeTron> i do have an updated version oh phpbb
10:21 <DrJoeTron> for message boards
10:24 <DrJoeTron> ive never ever used drupal
10:26 <Lucifer_arma> drupal's pretty easy when you get into it, and for regular users it shouldn't be a problem at all.
10:26 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
10:26 <DrJoeTron> i'll download it
10:26 <DrJoeTron> define easy
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> go fool with my website for a bit :)
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> you know, post comments, look around, post more comments
10:41 <DrJoeTron> haha
10:41 <DrJoeTron> MySQL eh?
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10:42 <DrJoeTron> im gonna do graphics :p
10:43 <DrJoeTron> the*
10:45 <DrJoeTron> well i'll tinker with this system
10:46 <DrJoeTron> maybe i can get gomes to give me a hand if he isnt too busy
10:54 <DrJoeTron> alright
10:54 <DrJoeTron> i need some sleep
10:54 <DrJoeTron> we'll keep in touch :d
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11:32 <deja_vu> spidey Oo
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13:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6142 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eNetGameObject.cpp:
13:17 <armabot> armagetronad: currentFace is cleared on RemoveFromGame(); this avoids zombie game objects from
13:17 <armabot> armagetronad: referencing faces and the sub-faces resulting from grid changes forever. The
13:17 <armabot> armagetronad: same isn't required in eGameObject::RemoveFromGame(), since that one calls the
13:17 <armabot> armagetronad: destructor which does the same job.
13:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6143 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/engine/eGameObject.cpp: Fixed typo.
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13:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6144 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nNetObject.cpp: Cosmetic type change.
14:23 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6145 /private/nemostultae/ruby/armagetronad/ (7 files in 6 dirs):
14:23 <armabot> armagetronad: - tRuby::Sandbox::Load works again
14:23 <armabot> armagetronad: - Added 0.3 second timeout ePlayer evaluation safe
14:23 <armabot> armagetronad: - Added tError interface file
14:23 <armabot> armagetronad: - Added scripts/initialize.rb
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16:06 <wrtlprnft> did i miss anything?
16:14 <GodTodd> my coronation
16:24 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: actually, thinking about it, i see no reason to make a GUI for defining favorite servers :P
16:24 <wrtlprnft> just have it read arma's user.cfg and extract the server bookmarks :P
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17:16 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6146 /private/wrtlprnft/armaspyadvanced/armaspyadvanced.py:
17:16 <armabot> armagetronad: - Added half- working UI approach
17:16 <armabot> armagetronad: - The script now tries to extract the server bookmarks from user.cfg. It displays these servers even if empty and puts an icon in front of them.
17:17 <wrtlprnft> :)
17:18 <wrtlprnft> grr, has a bug
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17:48 <madmax|pt> Hello
17:48 <wrtlprnft> hi madmax|pt 
17:49 <wrtlprnft> someone tell my why durka suddenly decided to move his user page to the main namespace :s
17:49 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #hello
17:49 <armabot> Hello [Xpert]DarkStar :) Random Fortune: With your bare hands?!?
17:50 <wrtlprnft> …interesting… fortune
17:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> yes indeed
17:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #f
17:50 <armabot> Random Fortune: Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? || A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision.
17:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lol
17:52 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6147 /private/wrtlprnft/armaspyadvanced/armaspyadvanced.py: removed duplicate entries after updates.
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17:54 <madmax|pt> armaspy?
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17:55 <rain> does the first match of the ladle start at 7.30 pm GMT?
17:59 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: armaspy advanced :P
18:00 <madmax|pt> ok, sooooo, whats that?
18:00 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaspyadvanced1.png
18:02 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=88301#88301
18:02 <madmax|pt> nice
18:02 <wrtlprnft> read the first post too
18:02 <wrtlprnft> brb
18:02 <wejp> what's the difference to my original armaspy?
18:04 <wrtlprnft> wejp: it's a KDE app, it shows the “real” server names and now supports server favorites
18:04 <wrtlprnft> and it's in python, so i can add more features :)
18:04 <wejp> where does it get its data from?
18:04 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
18:05 <wrtlprnft> which in turn gets it from my master server every minute
18:05 <wejp> ah
18:06 <wrtlprnft> and i beleve it's the only server feed to contain the maximum number of players allowed on the servers
18:06 <wrtlprnft> *believe
18:07 <wrtlprnft> I did like your armaspy, but i wanted it to do more and didn't feel like doing plain C and GTK
18:07 <wrtlprnft> and libxml is a pain compared to python's XML parser
18:07 <wejp> ah ok
18:07 <wejp> i still like C
18:07 <wejp> it is a great language
18:08 <wrtlprnft> c++ is nice
18:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> bash owns :P
18:08 <wejp> hm
18:08 <wrtlprnft> i was thinking about doing it all in c++ instead of python, but then didn
18:08 <wejp> bash sucks, it's damn ugly
18:09 <wejp> i like c for its simplicity
18:09 <wrtlprnft> 't want to go through all the trouble with autoconf and makefiles and stuff
18:09  * wrtlprnft agrees with wejp on bash
18:09 <[Xpert]DarkStar> >:(
18:13 <wrtlprnft> wejp: oh, another difference is that it lets you directly connect to a server
18:14 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6148 /private/wrtlprnft/armaspyadvanced/armaspyadvanced.py: more sensible default arma command.
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18:14 <wejp> so it starts armagetron then?
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18:38 <Comsn> yoooo
18:38 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hi
18:38 <Comsn> <~ (ws) kamakazi 
18:38 <Comsn> whos running the ladle?
18:40 <Vanhayes> 2020 is like always I think
18:41 <Comsn> anytone seen blasze?
18:41 <Vanhayes> you mean spidey?
18:41 <Comsn> ya
18:41 <Vanhayes> #last --from spidey --with 2
18:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: [16:49:51] <spidey> cya in a day or 2
18:42 <Vanhayes> that was yesturday
18:42 <Comsn> hes our team captain
18:42 <Lackadaisical> kama write down which team ws is: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Challenge_Board
18:42 <Comsn> heh
18:43 <Comsn> the tourney starts in 2 hours right?
18:43 <Comsn> stupid GMT times
18:43 <Lackadaisical> um.. you mean 6.45 pm gmt?
18:44 <Comsn> 2 hours from now
18:44 <Comsn> or is it one hour?
18:44 <Comsn> ya
18:44 <Comsn> 6:45 pm gmt is 1:45pm est?
18:44 <Lackadaisical> well it would start then but because there arent enough teams we start at 7.30 pm gmt
18:44 <Comsn> ah
18:44 <Comsn> well thats some last minute change ;p
18:45 <Lackadaisical> it was the same last time, the finals are at a set time and we see how late we need to start to have all the matches played before then
18:45 <Comsn> so ladle starts when ?
18:46 <Comsn> how many hours from now ;p
18:46 <Lackadaisical> um.. two hours and 45 minutes?
18:46 <Lackadaisical> but.. it depends if you need to play in the quarter finals or not, not all teams have to because there aren't eight teams
18:47 <Comsn> howd o
18:47 <Lackadaisical> and if you play the quarter finals or not depends which team you are, which you need to write down on http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Challenge_Board
18:47 <Comsn> i know what number?
18:48 <Lackadaisical> you can pick one
18:48 <Comsn> ah
18:48 <Comsn> roll a dice or something... hmmm
18:49 <Lackadaisical> well if you pick team two you need to play aw in the first round
18:49 <Comsn> i've only seen one other teammate online 
18:49 <Comsn> i dont mind playing the best team first off
18:49 <Comsn> just need to find my team first
18:50 <Comsn> ok, cant irc and play fort at same  time... :)
18:51 <Lackadaisical> kama as its looking now you better sign up for team 3 or 4 or we will have too little teams for the next round
18:53 <Comsn> hehe
18:53 <Comsn> i'm just saying ... even after signing up, i dont know if anyone will show ;p
18:55 <Comsn> but ok
18:55 <Comsn> i put it in there ;p\
19:04 <Comsn> happy? :P
19:05 <Lackadaisical> yes
19:05 <Lackadaisical> well not really since sl hasn't put their team down
19:05 <Comsn> i saw sasha on 4team 
19:06 <Lackadaisical> yeah i talked to him -- not sure if he was gonna do anything about it
19:06 <wrtlprnft> AW practice is in 2 hours?
19:06 <Lackadaisical> yes
19:16 <Vanhayes> how long ago was it that AW was formed?
19:16 <Vanhayes> must be at least 6 months now
19:18 <Lackadaisical> there used to be a page with comments about that first match on the wiki but i cant find it anymore
19:27 <Vanhayes> ya its named somrthing like 06. 02.06 or something allong those lines
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19:30 <ghableska> hello
19:31 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
19:31 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
19:32 <wrtlprnft> hi ghableska 
19:32 <Vanhayes> so many old CVS(pre bugfarm) people on right now
19:32 <ghableska> hi wrtlprnft
19:32 <ghableska> heh
19:32  * wrtlprnft still doesn't get why Durka messed everything up by moving his page :(
19:32 <ghableska> :(
19:33 <wrtlprnft> woo paypal sent me 18 cents(!)
19:33 <Vanhayes> wgat page?
19:33 <Vanhayes> what*
19:33 <wrtlprnft> [[User:Durka]]
19:33 <wrtlprnft> he moved it to [[Durka]]
19:33 <ghableska> O_o
19:33 <Vanhayes> ....
19:33 <Vanhayes> wow thats pointless
19:33 <Vanhayes> and wastefull
19:33 <wrtlprnft> to be exact, he didn't _move_ it
19:33 <Vanhayes> he created a new page?
19:34 <wrtlprnft> he made a new page and copied the contents
19:34 <wrtlprnft> and then deleted the old page's contents
19:34 <wrtlprnft> then decided a redirect would be better
19:34 <ghableska> wow
19:34 <wrtlprnft> then i had to move it back
19:34 <wrtlprnft> resulting in 4 more log entries
19:34 <ghableska> O_O
19:35 <wrtlprnft> (he moved the discussion page too)
19:35 <Vanhayes> he likes to do.... things to the wiki
19:35 <wrtlprnft> which doesn't contain any discussion
19:35 <ghableska> lol Vanhayes
19:36 <ghableska> hmm, did he make all sorts of colorful text this time?
19:36 <wrtlprnft> no
19:37 <wrtlprnft> but he made that page: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/We_Pwn_Noobs
19:37 <ghableska> ...
19:37 <wrtlprnft> contains a useless heading and lots of links to weird stuff
19:37 <wrtlprnft> i'm surprised bad behavior didn't ban him
19:37  * ghableska sighs
19:38 <wrtlprnft> well, i'm gonna leave it there...
19:39 <wrtlprnft> http://durdur.freehostia.com/ is …interesting…
19:39 <wrtlprnft> black text on black background
19:39 <wrtlprnft> and he's one of the guys who are obsessed with Comic Sans MS
19:39 <ghableska> lol
19:40 <wrtlprnft> to be exact, it's default colored text on black background
19:41 <wrtlprnft> the default text color being black in 99.9% of all cases
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19:43 <luke-jr_> eh
19:43 <luke-jr_> text colour is cyan
19:43 <wrtlprnft> err what?
19:44 <luke-jr_> the WPN site
19:44 <wrtlprnft> <body bgcolor=000000 vlink=4ebafa alink=4ebafa>
19:44 <wrtlprnft> besides the fact that 000000 isn
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19:44 <ghableska> hi Sticky
19:44 <wrtlprnft> 't a color at all it's probably meant to be black
19:44 <Sticky> hay
19:44 <wrtlprnft> hi Sticky 
19:45 <wrtlprnft> <font color=4ebafa face="comic sans ms" size=7>
19:45 <wrtlprnft> ah
19:45 <wrtlprnft> o well, but that still isn't a color
19:45 <Sticky> no ban comic sans
19:45  * wrtlprnft agrees
19:45  * wrtlprnft is talking about how much http://durdur.freehostia.com/ sucks
19:46 <Sticky> heh
19:46 <luke-jr_> wrtlprnft: CSS?
19:46 <luke-jr_> oh
19:46 <wrtlprnft> there is no CSS on that page
19:46 <Sticky> http://bancomicsans.com/
19:46 <nemostultae> the icons don't suck!
19:46 <wrtlprnft> just a font tag surrounding everything
19:50 <wrtlprnft> http://bancomicsans.com/image/AshmoreHouse.jpg
19:50 <wrtlprnft> someone tell me this isn't real
19:51 <Vanhayes> Im wondering why they had 4 different websites when all they really need was one link to their forums, the rest they could do on the wiki
19:51 <Vanhayes> didnt even really need the link either
19:52  * luke-jr_ notes the official forums have clan categories
19:52 <wrtlprnft> we do?
19:53 <Lackadaisical> i dont see it
19:53  * wrtlprnft has to be blind
19:54 <wrtlprnft> maybe he made it so developers can't see them?
19:54 <wrtlprnft> that would actually help considering the anticlan attitude of many devs
19:57  * Vanhayes looks at Lucifer_arma 
19:58 <ghableska> :P
19:59 <Vanhayes> hmm how many people does AW have for the ladle?
19:59 <Sticky> 12
19:59 <Sticky> i think
19:59 <ghableska> hmm
20:00 <Vanhayes> nvrm then
20:00 <Vanhayes> I had a sunden urge to play normal fortress
20:00  * Vanhayes might play for another team then
20:00 <ghableska> :-/
20:00 <Sticky> most have 12
20:01 <madmax|pt> lol Van
20:01 <Lackadaisical> hayes we are gonna see who is actually gonna play at 7pm gmt at Fortress - rains server
20:01 <Lackadaisical> if we are with 12 we could consider two teams?
20:02 <ghableska> would that be unfair?
20:02 <Vanhayes> well seems ws might need some people
20:03 <Vanhayes> Comsn: how many people do WS have now?
20:03 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6149 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/README-Subversion: Updated Mac OS X build instructions
20:05 <Comsn> what do you mean now?
20:05 <Comsn> i dont see anyone on msn ;p
20:06 <wrtlprnft> screw msn
20:06 <ghableska> heh
20:06 <Vanhayes> <Comsn> i'm just saying ... even after signing up, i dont know if anyone will show ;p
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20:07 <Vanhayes> name?
20:07  * wrtlprnft wonders if ed will hate me for running wget -r on his server
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20:07 <i2020> hi
20:07 <wrtlprnft> hi i2020 :)
20:07 <ghableska> hi i2020
20:07 <i2020> looks like captains have finally used the challenge board
20:08 <i2020> provisional playoffs have been determined
20:08 <i2020> just a matter of confirming, and locating the right servers for team captain satisfaction
20:08 <i2020> wow
20:08 <i2020> exciting
20:08 <i2020> you guys playing?
20:09 <Comsn> heh
20:09 <Comsn> as of right now, i am the only ws i know of online ;p
20:09 <Comsn> ashi was around somewhere
20:10 <Vanhayes> i2020: I might play for some team
20:10 <Comsn> spidey is on irc, but afk ;p
20:10  * wrtlprnft is playing
20:10 <Vanhayes> really didnt think I would this time
20:11 <i2020> some team...?
20:11 <i2020> really... why not?
20:13 -!- eggcozy [n=53d0387b@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * resources/ed/fortress/half-0.0.6.aamap.xml: Resource by ed
20:15 <Vanhayes> well school starts tuesday and I had alot of stuff I had to do before then, but I got it done last night so now Ill try to join a team
20:15 <wrtlprnft> join us or die :P
20:15 <wrtlprnft> jk
20:15 <Vanhayes> and since AW has 12 ill probly join another
20:15 <Vanhayes> well I dont want to die either.... :)
20:15 <wrtlprnft> oh no, we're gonna lose!
20:15 <ghableska> nooooo
20:15 <ghableska> :P
20:16  * wrtlprnft uses magic voodoo powers on Vanhayes 
20:16 <ghableska> haha
20:16 <madmax|pt> Being Van the original voodoo caster, i would be afraid
20:16 <Vanhayes> heh I just got that instant back too :)
20:16 <Sticky> well there are enough extras to make a few extra teams(if 5 a side)
20:16 <wrtlprnft> well, i'm gonna try to make a movie out of the ladle game(s) I'm gonna play
20:17 <wrtlprnft> maybe we should just make totally random teams next time
20:18 <Vanhayes> maybe ill create a team
20:18 <Vanhayes> maybe aill call us The Vananators
20:18 <Vanhayes> I'll*
20:18 <wrtlprnft> good luck
20:18 <wrtlprnft> you have 40 minutes to recruit 4 players
20:18 <Vanhayes> im sure anyone with the name van would join
20:18 <Sticky> need 2 teams tho unless you seed a team past the first round
20:19 <madmax|pt> #google fight smileys smilies
20:19 <armabot> madmax|pt: smilies: 136000000, smileys: 39400000
20:19 <Vanhayes> hmm actually I think im the only Van left :(
20:19 <ghableska> @anyone: when is AW meeting in rain's server?
20:19 <wrtlprnft> 10 minutes from now
20:19 <ghableska> oh
20:19 <Vanhayes> #last with fortress, 7
20:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
20:19 <madmax|pt> ?, not 40 minutes from now?
20:19 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-216-188-42.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
20:19 <Vanhayes> #last --with fortress, 7
20:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
20:20 <wrtlprnft> uh
20:20 <Sticky> yeah i thought 40 min form now
20:20 <wrtlprnft> i thought that was when the ladle started
20:20 <wrtlprnft> oh well, 40 minutes
20:20  * Vanhayes just completely forgot how #last works....
20:20  * wrtlprnft needs to compile a version of arma real quick
20:20 <wrtlprnft> #last --with fortress --with 7 --nolimit
20:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [22:50:53] <Vanhayes> #last --with fortress, 7, [22:50:47] <Vanhayes> #last with fortress, 7, [22:32:16] <Lackadaisical> hayes we are gonna see who is actually gonna play at 7pm gmt at Fortress - rains server, and [20:03:46] <rain> 7.00gmt on my server, called Fortress, all agree?
20:21 <Vanhayes> ah there we go, thx
20:21 <wrtlprnft> ye
20:21 <wrtlprnft> yw
20:21 <Vanhayes> alot smoother than my attempt
20:21 <Comsn> lol
20:21 <Comsn> omega?
20:21 <Sticky> heh never seen that feature of irc before
20:21 <Comsn> that was funnnnnyyyy
20:21 <i2020> with less than 8 teams, we have quarters beginning at 7.30 pm gmt
20:21 <Sticky> quite nice
20:21 <Comsn> so whens ladle start?
20:21 <Comsn> aynone tell me ? :p
20:21 <wrtlprnft> Sticky: it's a bot
20:21 <i2020> semis at 8.15 a
20:21 <Comsn> i need times from now
20:21 <i2020> and finals at 9pm gmt
20:21 <Comsn> e.g. 20 mins?
20:21 <Sticky> well yeah thats what i ment
20:21 <Comsn> 30 mins?
20:22 <Comsn> 15 mins?
20:22 <i2020> no aw meet in 40 mins
20:22 <i2020> and we should be on the grid playing half hour after that
20:22 <i2020> glad you could make it van...
20:22 <Sticky> start is in 1:10 hours
20:22 <Comsn> ah
20:22 <i2020> yes
20:22 <wrtlprnft> #f
20:22 <Comsn> thanks
20:22 <armabot> Random Fortune: Michelle: You expect me to live in a tiny little hole? || Fry: It'd be deeper, but I'm standing on a gopher.
20:25 <Vanhayes> heh, futurama
20:26 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma wanted me to include those
20:27 <wrtlprnft> Team 1 challenges Team 2 on LOD Fortress Server or Z-man's Tournament Fortress 
20:27 <wrtlprnft> Team 3 challenges Team 4 on AST or US Fortress Server 
20:27 <wrtlprnft> Team 5 challenges Team 6 on Bugfarm LOD Server or Wildwest -- Fortress (ladle) 
20:27 <wrtlprnft> Team 7 challenges Team 8 on AST or Dark Syndicates Fortress
20:27 <wrtlprnft> how come we play WS?
20:29 <Vanhayes> I think ill just show up to a game and see if anyone needs a filler
20:29 <i2020> the placements of what server is upto the captains.. all of it is provisional of course
20:29 <i2020> captains decide
20:30 <madmax|pt> btw, i already told lack i most likely wont be on rain's server in time, but i think i'll be cool with the first round at  7:30 GMT
20:31 <wrtlprnft> anyways, I'm gonna test the recording stuff too at 7PM
20:32 <wrtlprnft> if it lags like last time i won't record
20:32 <i2020> we may not have to play at 7.30 as it stands..
20:33 <i2020> since there are only 6 teams
20:33 <i2020> we should be in semis with wd
20:33 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: make your own one, go!
20:33 <i2020> ws
20:33 <madmax|pt> ok
20:34 <madmax|pt> Are you sending Van away wrtl?
20:34 <wrtlprnft> or we might split up totally
20:34 <wrtlprnft> well, it
20:34 <wrtlprnft> 'll all depend on how many AWs will show up
20:34 <madmax|pt> egg here too :D
20:35 <wrtlprnft> actually we could just split up for the first match (the one we don't need to play)
20:35 <wrtlprnft> just for practice
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20:35 <ghableska> hmm
20:35 <madmax|pt> are you playing for a team egg?
20:35  * ghableska wonders how running into a fan killed his internet
20:36 <wrtlprnft> o_O
20:36 <wrtlprnft> #shuffle
20:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (shuffle <arg> [<arg> ...]) -- Shuffles the arguments given it.
20:36 <wrtlprnft> #shuffle "2020" "~ }{Alex}{ ~" "ghableska" "Lackadaisical" "madmax" "Wrtlprnft" "Sticky" "Hay-Lin" "gArIsImO" "rain" "MaZuffeR" "featherfcuk"
20:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: MaZuffeR 2020 ~ }{Alex}{ ~ Wrtlprnft Lackadaisical madmax rain Sticky featherfcuk Hay-Lin gArIsImO ghableska
20:36 <ghableska> last? :P
20:36 <wrtlprnft> so MaZuffeR 2020 ~ }{Alex}{ ~ Wrtlprnft Lackadaisical madmax
20:36 <wrtlprnft> would be one team, rain Sticky featherfcuk Hay-Lin gArIsImO ghableska
20:36 <wrtlprnft> the other one
20:36 <ghableska> aww
20:36 <i2020> only if it is 5's
20:36 <wrtlprnft> we could split up like that in the first round
20:37 <wrtlprnft> the one we don't have to play anyways
20:37 <i2020> who knows.. .the problem is we don't know who will actually turn up
20:37 <wrtlprnft> then practice like that
20:37 <Sticky> 2 teams would be good
20:37 <i2020> what if they have full teams?
20:37 <madmax|pt> ive seen good things with 4 vs 7
20:37 <madmax|pt> :)
20:37 <wrtlprnft> I'd suggest the following algorythm to decide how many players are allowed to play on each team:
20:38 <wrtlprnft> 1) put a maximum or 8 players per team on the server
20:38 <wrtlprnft> 2) keep removing one player from each ream until
20:38 <wrtlprnft>   a) the teams are equeal
20:38 <Sticky> ta
20:38 <Sticky> that dosent work
20:38 <i2020> suppose so
20:38 <wrtlprnft> err
20:38 <madmax|pt> lol
20:39 <ghableska> o.0
20:39 <madmax|pt> well, i'll be back later
20:39 <wrtlprnft> 2) keep removing one player from the bigger team until
20:39 <Sticky> that just makes one team have 0
20:39 <i2020> i've seen amazing play 4v7 with 4 playing like gods
20:39 <wrtlprnft>   a) the teams are equeal
20:39 <madmax|pt> bye
20:39 <Sticky> ok
20:39 <i2020> qhehhe...
20:39 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-219-157.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["ftw?"]
20:39 <wrtlprnft>   b) the bigger team only has 5 players
20:39 <ghableska> cu madmax|pt
20:39 <wrtlprnft> that should work nicely
20:40 <i2020> if the team captains turn up here and give an idea of the size of their teams... then...
20:40 <i2020> that would be most useful
20:40 <Sticky> numPlayers = max(min(teamA,teamB),5)
20:40 <i2020> just like aw are doing... meeting up at 7pm.. establishing team count...
20:40 <wrtlprnft> maxPlayersPerTeam = max(min(teamA,teamB),5)
20:40 <i2020> and then gar if he turns up comes here and reports to the other captains
20:40 <Lackadaisical> i2020>	looks like captains have finally used the challenge board
20:40 <i2020> and they work it out...
20:41 <i2020> yeah... finally
20:41 <Lackadaisical> yeah i just pursued the three teams :P
20:41 <eggcozy> not sure if I will have time. trying to talk my girlfriend into cheerleading for me
20:41 <Comsn> aha!
20:41 <ghableska> heh
20:41 <Comsn> another of my team is online
20:41 <i2020> the trouble is... wow... did you... well done
20:41 <i2020> hehehhe
20:41 <eggcozy> she would of course rather watch the one of the movies we got
20:41 <i2020> movies of armagetron... you are sick
20:42 <eggcozy> I play them while I am sleeping
20:42  * Sticky wonders how to make whipping noises over the net
20:42 <i2020> the challenge board should have been used for a week
20:42  * Vanhayes makes whipping noise over the net
20:42 <i2020> we could have seen some jumping around between captains
20:42 <i2020> could be an interesting part of the game to watch
20:42 -!- manta [n=kim@64-118-124-32-as-00.dialin.oakhurst.sti.net] has joined #armagetron
20:43 <wrtlprnft> hi manta 
20:43 <ghableska> hi Marco
20:43 <i2020> hi
20:43 <ghableska> *manta :P
20:43 <manta> hi
20:43 <i2020> 15 mins
20:43 <i2020> you guys there already?
20:43 <Sticky> yup
20:43 <wrtlprnft> 1
20:43 <Vanhayes> hmm since alot of fortress people are here, would basic fortress with added respawn zones in a corner, or off to the side, be a good game mode?
20:44 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Ladle_Brackets
20:44 <wrtlprnft> what's the point of that?
20:44 <wrtlprnft> that's pretty much what 
20:44 <wrtlprnft> i2020 already put there
20:44 <Sticky> i thouhgt of having a recharge zone that recharges your rubber and breaks
20:44 <manta> well, it might be nice to try for a while wrtlprnft
20:45 <Comsn> oh sup manta
20:45 <Comsn> <~ kamakazi
20:45 <manta> but I notice long matches seem to slow done clients after a wile and frare rates drop
20:45 <Comsn> Vanhayes : it would make holes very .... inticing
20:45 <ghableska> I thought we were meeting at rain's server...
20:45 <Vanhayes> heh, true
20:46 <i2020> interesting wrtl.. but incorrect
20:46 <Vanhayes> manta: ya I think that might have to do with respawning itself, not the length of the matches
20:46 <wrtlprnft> grr, how do i mark a new page as patrolled?
20:46 <wrtlprnft> i2020: well, it's not EXACTLY the same
20:46 <i2020> if you look at the challenge board, there are four teams in the second half...
20:46 <Comsn> Vanhayes : groundpig's capture the flag , he just fixed a respawn lag bug
20:46 <Vanhayes> but then, I dont think ive ever had that long of a match without respawning so maybe
20:46 <wrtlprnft> yeah, he put the AW vs WS in the 1st round
20:46 <Vanhayes> Comsn: its still there
20:46 <wrtlprnft> you put it into the 2nd round
20:47 <i2020> whcih means the bye comes in the quarters between awa nd ws... at least... i think it is
20:47 <wrtlprnft> no difference
20:47 <Comsn> Vanhayes : i mean he fixed it like 30 mins ago, its s till there?
20:47 <Vanhayes> I was in 10 minutes ago
20:47 <Comsn> oh ok :)
20:47 <Vanhayes> it isnt nearly as bad but it still lags
20:47 <wrtlprnft> Comsn: did he?
20:47 <wrtlprnft> i thought that was zone- related
20:47 <Vanhayes> used to go down to 5-10 from 60-70
20:48 <manta> well that is a nice thing about a game in development promlems don't stay problems for long
20:48 <i2020> it makes the challenge board redundant.. the original idea is for captains to jostle for position...
20:48 <i2020> they know who they are going to play first, second, third... etc
20:48 <wrtlprnft> it's a bit late too
20:48 <i2020> but... who knows..
20:48 <i2020> too late? for what
20:48 <wrtlprnft> 20:48 <wrtlprnft> it's a bit late too
20:48 <wrtlprnft> i never said “too late”
20:49 <ghableska> O_o
20:49 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: i have only seen that kind of fps drain in 3 servers before, pig's z-mans' one that he hosted on his comp with respawning and the one hosted by luke-jr_ that has respaning in it
20:49 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: "i never said “too late”"
20:49 <wrtlprnft> then say that on the forums
20:49 <Vanhayes> respawning*
20:49 <i2020> sorry.. misread
20:49 <Vanhayes> *sigh* ok
20:49 <wrtlprnft> i'm not related to respawning at all
20:49 <wrtlprnft> infact i never compiled a server that had it enabled
20:50 <wrtlprnft> another question is if it's really related to respawning or awfully long matches
20:50 <wrtlprnft> *awfully long rounds
20:51 -!- Nixda264 [n=57f00d30@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
20:51 <wrtlprnft> Nixda264: type /nick <some nick>
20:51 -!- Nixda264 is now known as Sasha
20:51 <Sasha> x=)
20:51 <wrtlprnft> :)
20:51 <ghableska> hi Sasha
20:51 <Sasha> hi there
20:51 <Sasha> xhi
20:52 <Sasha> damn chat key of Arma "x"
20:52 <ghableska> heh
20:52 <Sasha> )
20:52  * wrtlprnft uses the traditional old s
20:52 <wrtlprnft> shi
20:52  * ghableska does too
20:52 <wrtlprnft> actually i should use i or a
20:52 <Sasha> xI use x
20:52 <Sasha> c is for camera
20:52 <wrtlprnft> at least it would give arma some kind of vim feeling
20:52 <wrtlprnft> c is tourn right
20:53 <wrtlprnft> v is camera
20:53 <wrtlprnft> though the only cams i have enabled are custom and free
20:53 <Sasha> s and w is turn left
20:53 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@2002:1891:f657:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
20:53 <Lackadaisical> v is glance right, q is camera
20:53 <wrtlprnft> <y is turn left
20:53 <wrtlprnft> xc is turn right
20:53 <wrtlprnft> + arrow keys
20:53 <Sasha> ))
20:53 <Sasha> Ctrl+aLt+Del - restart PC
20:53 <wrtlprnft> tux key and down are brake
20:53 <Sasha> lol
20:53 <wrtlprnft> ctrl and alt are glances
20:54 <i2020> can i correct your bracket wrtl?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> and crtl-alt-backspace is bad.
20:54 <wrtlprnft> i2020: huh?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> i never made one
20:54 <Sasha> did anyone see sKy?
20:54 <Lackadaisical> its not wrtls brackter
20:54 <Lackadaisical> durka mad it
20:54 <Lackadaisical> made
20:54 <i2020> oh..
20:54 <wrtlprnft> i just questioned what it was for
20:54  * wrtlprnft looks up
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20:55 <i2020> ah.. i will alter it to reflect the stuff on the board... in case people get confused...
20:55  * wrtlprnft sees sky and stars
20:55 <wrtlprnft> i2020: good idea
20:55 <wrtlprnft> it's using some very weird markup too
20:55 <Lackadaisical> i heard durka 'likes to do.... things to the wiki'
20:56 <ghableska> heh
20:56 <wrtlprnft> heh
20:56 <ghableska> Lackadaisical: don't think too hard :P
20:56 <Lackadaisical> it's just what i heard!
20:57 <ghableska> XD
20:57 <wrtlprnft> 110 seconds to our meeting!
20:57 <wrtlprnft> o_O the server's almost ful
20:58 <ghableska> Heh.
20:59 <manta> has anyone sen goodygumdrops around?
20:59 <ghableska> he just came in to the server....and left
21:01 <ghableska> i2020: can you get on Skype?
21:01 <manta> ok I found him
21:01 <manta> is the meeting starting?
21:02 <ghableska> I think so...
21:03 -!- Luke-Jr [n=luke-jr@2002:1891:f657:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d] has joined #armagetron
21:03 <wrtlprnft> i hade that AÐY guy
21:03 <Vanhayes> I hade him too
21:04 <Vanhayes> .... who is Luke-Jr ?
21:04 <ghableska> ?
21:04 <Vanhayes> #seen Luke-Jr 
21:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: Luke-Jr was last seen in #armagetron 3 weeks, 2 days, 20 hours, 29 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <Luke-Jr> config folder is for the system, not the user
21:04 <Vanhayes> been a while
21:04 <Vanhayes> now, I know who Luke-Jr_ is but I havent seen Luke-Jr  in a whil;e
21:05 <Vanhayes> #seen luke-jr_
21:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: luke-jr_ was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 12 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: * luke-jr_ notes the official forums have clan categories
21:08 <wrtlprnft> uh, Luke-Jr is there
21:10 -!- G5_Ger [n=G5_Ger@dslb-084-056-192-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
21:10 <G5_Ger> Hi Ladle players!
21:12 <Vanhayes> hey G5_Ger 
21:13 <manta> hey
21:14 <ghableska> hi
21:14 <Luke-Jr> ...
21:15 <Vanhayes> just an observetion
21:15 <Luke-Jr> it's totally random
21:15 <Luke-Jr> I'm in too many channels for 1 connection, so I'm always on freenode twice
21:15 <Vanhayes> true, but its true
21:15 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@CPE-24-31-245-218.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
21:15 <luke-jr_> see
21:15 -!- luke-jr_ [n=luke-jr@CPE-24-31-245-218.kc.res.rr.com] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
21:15 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_: there's a channel limit?
21:15 <Luke-Jr> yes
21:15 <wrtlprnft> x_X
21:16 <Vanhayes> for your client or for the network?
21:16 <Luke-Jr> network
21:16 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@81.193.17.187] has joined #armagetron
21:16 <Luke-Jr> 40, IIRC
21:16 <Vanhayes> ....
21:16 <Vanhayes> your in over 40 channels?
21:16 <Luke-Jr> sometimes
21:16 <Vanhayes> damn, that would be too confusing for me
21:16 <Luke-Jr> 25 autojoin
21:17 <Luke-Jr> so maybe it's 30
21:17 <wrtlprnft> well he only reads hilights and topics he can annoy people with
21:18 <Vanhayes> I get confused with just one channel and the network sometimes
21:18 <Lackadaisical> #shuffle "2020" "~ }{Alex}{ ~" "ghableska" "Lackadaisical" "madmax" "Wrtlprnft" "Sticky" "Hay-Lin" "gArIsImO" "eggcozy" "MaZuffeR" "featherfcuk""Vanhayes""alex"
21:18 <armabot> Lackadaisical: Wrtlprnft 2020 MaZuffeR Lackadaisical Vanhayes Sticky eggcozy ~ }{Alex}{ ~ Hay-Lin gArIsImO ghableska alex madmax featherfcuk
21:18  * wrtlprnft is team 1?
21:18  * Vanhayes is too
21:18 <Lackadaisical> oh alex is in there twice
21:18 <Lackadaisical> Wrtlprnft 2020 MaZuffeR Lackadaisical Vanhayes Sticky
21:18 <wrtlprnft> Wrtlprnft 2020 MaZuffeR Lackadaisical Vanhayes Sticky eggcozy 
21:18 <wrtlprnft> ~ }{Alex}{ ~ Hay-Lin gArIsImO ghableska alex madmax featherfcuk
21:18 <wrtlprnft> like that?
21:18 <Vanhayes> seems like good teams to me
21:18 <Sticky> yup
21:19 <Lackadaisical> eggcozy ~ }{Alex}{ ~ Hay-Lin gArIsImO ghableska  madmax featherfcuk
21:19 <Lackadaisical> ok good
21:19 <wrtlprnft> now you need to tell that to the non- IRC ppl
21:20 <ghableska> garisimo?
21:20 <ghableska> he isn't here...
21:20 <Lackadaisical> yes thats why one team has 7
21:20 <Lackadaisical> thats the one with garisimo
21:20 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Challenge_Room&curid=1981&diff=15342&oldid=15333&rcid=13988
21:20 <ghableska> oh
21:20 <wrtlprnft> HOW THE F*** IS DURKA DECIDING ABOUT THE LADLE?!
21:21 <madmax|pt> lol...
21:21  * wrtlprnft kills durka in his mind
21:21 <wrtlprnft> all: did he just decide that alone or was there something i missed?
21:22 <G5_Ger> Durka is ... special ... in some way :-)
21:22 <wrtlprnft> else i'll use that rollback button
21:22 <wrtlprnft> *otherwise
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21:25 <Lackadaisical> i think team B is here right?
21:25 <Comsn> b?
21:25 <Lackadaisical> aw has split into two teams
21:25 <MaZuffeR> <Lackadaisical> Wrtlprnft 2020 MaZuffeR Lackadaisical Vanhayes Sticky 
21:25 <MaZuffeR> that's team B
21:25 <Lackadaisical> yes, and we are all here
21:25 <Vanhayes> nice we are all here
21:26 <Vanhayes> should simplify things
21:26 <Lackadaisical> ok i'm gonna write us down in the challenge board
21:26 <Lackadaisical> lets play wraith squadron in the quarter finals ok?
21:26 <Vanhayes> ok
21:26 <Vanhayes> brb in like 2 minutes
21:27 <Lackadaisical> we have to be playing them in 2 minutes
21:27 <i2020> thats the idea lack... aw cs w
21:27 <i2020> fuck
21:27 <Comsn> ah
21:27 <i2020> is all i can say...
21:27 <i2020> sorry
21:28 <Lackadaisical> where?
21:29 <Sticky> where is the game??
21:29 <wrtlprnft> ok, where do i go now?
21:29 <Lackadaisical> no wth is durka saying
21:29 <wrtlprnft> after i discovered i'm on team b
21:29 <ghableska> where does A go?
21:30 <G5_Ger> Hmmm ... now it is aw-b vs wpn (on wildwest fortress)???
21:30 <Sticky> ok
21:30 <wrtlprnft> ok
21:31 -!- Vanhayes_ [i=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034162208.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
21:31 <Vanhayes_> ok there we go
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21:39 <madmax|pt> ghableska ?
21:39 <ghableska> arma crashed
21:39 <G5_Ger> my client crashed on us fortress
21:39 <Vanhayes> same....
21:39 <MaZuffeR> mine too
21:39 <Vanhayes> weird
21:40 <Vanhayes> twice now
21:40 <wrtlprnft> mine too
21:40 <G5_Ger> or it is very slow ...
21:40 <ghableska> O_O
21:40 <G5_Ger> back to wildwest?
21:40 <wrtlprnft> doesn't respond to UI input
21:40 <Vanhayes> spidey: FIX YOUR SERVER WHEN YOU COME BACK
21:40 <madmax|pt> oO
21:40 <wrtlprnft> ....
21:40 <wrtlprnft> so where do we go now?
21:41 <ghableska> wildwest?
21:41 <Lackadaisical> go back to wildwest?
21:41 <wrtlprnft> kk
21:41 <Vanhayes> sure
21:41 <i2020> omg
21:41 <madmax|pt> according to the challenge room AW-B were the ones to play WS?
21:42 <madmax|pt> @wiki
21:42 <madmax|pt> erm, challenge board
21:42 <Vanhayes> well seems we are playing WPN now...
21:42 <ghableska> ok, madmax|pt: are you on AW-A?
21:42 <madmax|pt> yes...
21:42 <ghableska> then you go to the LoD server...?
21:42 <madmax|pt> i am there ghab
21:42 <ghableska> oh, hmm
21:43 <Vanhayes> arent you team A ghab?
21:44 <madmax|pt> he is
21:44 <madmax|pt> and he's on the server too
21:44 <i2020> christ... self organised... good grief... um... too many cooks...
21:44 <Vanhayes> too many cooks named Durka
21:44 <ghableska> Vanhayes: yeah
21:44 <Vanhayes> bah his way is chaotic
21:45 <i2020> yup and unilateral
21:45 <madmax|pt> what about team B? you guys have a server to play on and a team to play with?
21:45 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:45 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
21:45 <madmax|pt> ok
21:46 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lack@ipd50aa335.speed.planet.nl] has joined #armagetron
21:46 <madmax|pt> next round our match starts
21:46 <madmax|pt> out
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21:51 <Comsn> shit
21:51 <Comsn> anyone lod here?
21:51 <Comsn> tell em someone has to join
21:51 <Comsn> a WS has to join
21:52 <Comsn> damnit
21:52 <Comsn> why lock it? :D
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22:10 <Vanhayes> lame
22:10 <Vanhayes> LAME
22:11 <Vanhayes> got auto kicked for spamming, using a def dead instant
22:11 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: Lackadaisical i2020 MaZuffeR Sticky someone else def
22:11 <wrtlprnft> don't try to reenter yet
22:11 <Vanhayes> cant for 4 mins
22:12 <Lackadaisical> ok
22:12 <wrtlprnft> don't keep trying
22:13 <wrtlprnft> sjust wait 5 mins
22:13 <Vanhayes> im watching A team win
22:16 <ghableska> Vanhayes: tell AW-A that I went to help B
22:16 <ghableska> :P
22:16 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@bl4-17-187.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
22:16 <madmax|pt> back
22:16 -!- eggcozy [n=53d0387b@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
22:16 <madmax|pt> did team B played they're match?
22:17 <eggcozy> how much time do I have till the next match for AW-A?
22:17 <madmax|pt> i don't know
22:21 <i2020> hi
22:21 <i2020> it is 1 1 
22:21 <i2020> we won the first, they won the second.. .decider now on
22:21 <i2020> van subbed on for me since his ping is so much better than mine there
22:22 <i2020> what about the other games? 
22:22 <i2020> lol and ct? sl?
22:23 <wrtlprnft> sl won 2-0
22:24 <madmax|pt> eggcozy, gari was trying to play with SL now
22:24 <madmax|pt> set up the match that is
22:25 <eggcozy> hmm
22:25 -!- nemostultae [n=nemostul@a1103.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["⌘Q"]
22:25 <eggcozy> where is gar?
22:26 <i2020> what about lol?
22:26 <eggcozy> I would like about 10 min if possible.
22:26 <eggcozy> ill be back in about 7 min, message please if we know where next game is.
22:28 <ghableska> wrpn=lol?
22:28 <ghableska> *wpn
22:28 <i2020> has lol arrived?
22:28 <i2020> do they exist
22:30 <i2020> so lol haven't turned up?
22:31 <wrtlprnft> ok i say we won
22:32 <Sticky> hay
22:32 <madmax|pt> now you did
22:32 <wrtlprnft> we pwn noobs—but only noobs
22:33 <wrtlprnft> this match got recorded
22:33 <wrtlprnft> i used free cam for final fights when i was dead, so you should get some good video material i2020 :)
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22:33 <Sticky> anyone spectating AW-b vs wpn???
22:33 <wrtlprnft> i'ma be off for a few minutes
22:33 <wrtlprnft> Sticky: we won
22:33 <wrtlprnft> 2-1
22:33 <Sticky> cool
22:34 <ghableska> so who do we play now?
22:34 <i2020> thanks wrtl.. now we need an editor...
22:34 <i2020> how many players in sl?
22:34 <Lackadaisical> now what?
22:34 <Lackadaisical> we have sl, aw a and aw b
22:34 <i2020> sl v aw...
22:34 <Vanhayes> no LOL?
22:34 <Lackadaisical> lol forfeited
22:34 <i2020> find them...
22:34 <i2020> ah
22:34 <Lackadaisical> just 6 teams
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22:34 <Vanhayes> thought that might happen
22:34 <i2020> so how many in the sl team?
22:35 <Lackadaisical> i dk
22:35 <wrtlprnft> i2020: no, i can make a video out of it
22:35 <madmax|pt> seems like AW-A vs SL now @ LOD
22:35 <i2020> well.. i would like to get the material so i can edit it... get the right perspective etc...
22:35 <Vanhayes> hmm SP didnt join this one...
22:35 <wrtlprnft> i'm sure there's a codec that works for you
22:35 <madmax|pt> gari said it
22:35 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
22:36 <i2020> look. how many players in the sl team?
22:36 <Vanhayes> ill try to find someone who knows
22:36 <madmax|pt> two?
22:36 <madmax|pt> lol
22:36 -!- wejp [n=j@i577BAC7B.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
22:36 <madmax|pt> well, two @ LoD
22:36 <Sticky> well good game for those in WA-B..sorry about my probloems at the end
22:36 <G5_Ger> bye
22:37 <Vanhayes> np we didnt lose a round that match :)
22:37 <Vanhayes> cya G5_Ger 
22:37 -!- G5_Ger [n=G5_Ger@dslb-084-056-192-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Quitting!"]
22:37 <Lackadaisical> ok sl is playing against aw a
22:37 <i2020> 2?
22:37 <Lackadaisical> so we got a bye i guess this round
22:37 <Vanhayes> and we play winner?
22:37 <Vanhayes> ok
22:37 <ghableska> what if we end up playing ourselves?
22:37 <Vanhayes> we win :)
22:37 <Vanhayes> heh
22:38 <ghableska> heh
22:38 <i2020> weird
22:38 <Vanhayes> so... how many does SL have?
22:38 <i2020> i just want a good game...
22:38 <Vanhayes> same
22:38 <i2020> still haven't had one yet
22:38 <Vanhayes> I want a good server too
22:38 <Lackadaisical> i think aw vs aw would be fun
22:38 <i2020> no idea...
22:38 <wrtlprnft> well, wpn might pwn noobs, but not us
22:38 <i2020> yeah...
22:39 <Vanhayes> guess I cant say /me is a noob anymore
22:39 <Vanhayes> its official
22:39 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-64-108-205-96.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
22:39 <i2020> i think it a little unfair that sl play two teams of aw if they win the first against aw A
22:39 <ghableska> hehhe
22:39 <DrJoeTron> alright, looks like the wireless card works
22:39 <DrJoeTron> do any of you know a good remote desktop program for windows?
22:39 <Sticky> vnc
22:40 <DrJoeTron> hmm
22:40 <Sticky> tightvnc is best
22:40 <madmax|pt> Durka is funny...
22:40 <madmax|pt> reaaaaal funny
22:40 <Vanhayes> hmm how about AW-A vs AW-B?
22:41 <Lackadaisical> gari already arranged a match against sl
22:41 <Vanhayes> that would be more fair than SL vs AW the n if they win VS AW again
22:41 <madmax|pt> things are being arranged already
22:41 <Lackadaisical> but sl only has two players
22:41 <madmax|pt> 3 now
22:41 <Vanhayes> ahh nvrm then
22:41 <madmax|pt> and durka is seemingly SL too now
22:41 <Lackadaisical> is that including durka?
22:41 <wrtlprnft> wtf
22:41 <DrJoeTron> how secure is it?
22:41 <madmax|pt> no, radian joined
22:41 <wrtlprnft> is durka wpn, lol, or sl now?
22:42 <Lackadaisical> why are ady and mephisto still there?
22:42 <Vanhayes> sl needed "helpers"
22:43 <Vanhayes> Im not sure who is one
22:43 <madmax|pt> well, if we want it to be a SL vs (AWB vs AWA) better say it now
22:43 <madmax|pt> badzilla there too now
22:43 <Vanhayes> looks like it is just about to start
22:44 <wrtlprnft> what?
22:44 <Vanhayes> well next match AW-B plays can it not be in LOD server? I get really bad lagg there
22:44 <wrtlprnft> where shall i go?
22:44 <wrtlprnft> what about z-man's server?
22:44 <Lackadaisical> z-mans is good
22:45 <wrtlprnft> that's what i mean
22:45 <Vanhayes> ya that would be great
22:45 <wrtlprnft> is it online?
22:45 <Vanhayes> no clue :/
22:45 <wrtlprnft> it is
22:45 <Lackadaisical> yes, full with random people though
22:45 <Lackadaisical> 'full'= 6 people
22:45 <wrtlprnft> Z-Man's Tournament Fortress (6/16)
22:45 <wrtlprnft> ~}SD{~Smart
22:45 <wrtlprnft> Raidon
22:45 <wrtlprnft> Qbrain
22:45 <wrtlprnft> (WS) eclipse
22:45 <wrtlprnft> Skunk_it!
22:45 <wrtlprnft> [AW-B] Lack
22:46 <Lackadaisical> armaspy?
22:46 <madmax|pt> eggcozy, LoD server, now
22:46  * wrtlprnft 's gonna join
22:46 <wrtlprnft> Lackadaisical: yeah
22:46 <wrtlprnft> or http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
22:46 <Sticky> rains server aint bad for me
22:46 <wrtlprnft> that's where i copied it from
22:46 -!- eggcozy [n=53d0387b@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC"]
22:46 <wrtlprnft> rain's would be fine too
22:46 <wrtlprnft> z-man's is a tournament server, so we have the moral right to kick them :P
22:46 <Lackadaisical> can rain's hold that many people?
22:46 <Lackadaisical> hehe yeah
22:47 <Sticky> z-mans is better for me
22:47 <Vanhayes> ya, Id just prefer it cause its one Im familiar with and like
22:48 <Sticky> so what time is next game??
22:48 <Vanhayes> whenever SL and AW are done
22:48 <wrtlprnft> i'd say as soon as we get everyone there?
22:48 <Vanhayes> we play the winner
22:48 <Lackadaisical> when madmax tells us they either won or lost
22:48 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: we have a bye for the finals
22:49 <Sticky> whats happend to SL, WS and CT??
22:49 <wrtlprnft> ct lost
22:49 <wrtlprnft> ws is gonna play awb i think
22:49 <Lackadaisical> ws lost against aw a
22:49 <wrtlprnft> ack
22:50 <wrtlprnft> i'm too confused
22:50 <Vanhayes> we play in the finals
22:50 <Sticky> err no
22:50 <Lackadaisical> appearantly we had a bye in the semi finals because gari and meri arranged a match before we could
22:51 <Lackadaisical> no?
22:51 <Sticky> so whats happend to WS??
22:53 <Vanhayes> AW-A beat them I think
22:53  * ghableska blames durka for the confusion
22:53 <Sticky> ok so AW-A are on their 3rd game
22:53 <Lackadaisical> aw-a beat ws, sl beat ct, aw-b beat wpn
22:53 <Lackadaisical> no this is their second
22:53 <Lackadaisical> there are no more teams than those six
22:54 <ghableska> AW-A is playing against SL now...
22:54 <Sticky> ahh ok
22:54 <Sticky> any updates from the current game
22:55 <Vanhayes> brb
22:55 -!- Vanhayes [i=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu84w-156034162208.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["So thats what that button does...."]
22:55 <Lackadaisical> theres individual players score at http://lod.bigreddesign.co.uk/
22:56 <wrtlprnft> no team scores? :s
22:56 <DrJoeTron> time get that c going!
22:56 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-64-108-205-96.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has quit [">-;;,ccc3"]
22:57 <Lackadaisical> they have quite a line up with all those subs
22:59 <madmax|pt> 1-0 for SL
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23:02 <ghableska> we are down one person...
23:03 <Sticky> anyone??
23:03 <ghableska> anyone want to join? :P
23:03 <Sticky> wakey everyone
23:04 <Lackadaisical> hi
23:04 <Lackadaisical> yeah hay is at zmans
23:04 <Lackadaisical> is it open?
23:04 <Sticky> get into LOD
23:04 <Lackadaisical> i sent hay and gari
23:05 <Sticky> were still 1 down
23:05 <Sticky> ahh no
23:05 <Lackadaisical> no?
23:06 <Sticky> mo
23:06 <Sticky> no
23:06 <Sticky> well the server has 16 on it
23:09 <Sticky> not going well looking at the scores
23:09 <Lackadaisical> yeah
23:09 <Lackadaisical> guess we have to take them on ;)
23:10 <Sticky> good team too
23:11 <Lackadaisical> it looks more like a clan vs non-clan game than sl vs aw
23:11 <Lackadaisical> they have sl, ct, lod and wpn on their team
23:11 <Sticky> gues they will have AW-A too when they play us
23:12 <ghableska> :-/
23:12 <Lackadaisical> how is it going ghab?
23:13 <Lackadaisical> looks like the third match has started
23:14 <wrtlprnft> what score?
23:14 <wrtlprnft> 1-1?
23:14 <Lackadaisical> i don't know
23:15 <ghableska> 1-1
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23:19 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
23:19 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
23:19 <Vanhayes> how are AW-A doing?
23:19 <Lackadaisical> 1-1
23:19 <ghableska> not so well
23:19 <ghableska> 34-54
23:19 <wrtlprnft> x_X
23:19 <Vanhayes> not too bad, still winable
23:20 <ghableska> yeah
23:20 <ghableska> so if we lose, then AW-B gets to play?
23:20 <Lackadaisical> yes
23:21 <Vanhayes> hmm seems that its choppy in all the standard fortress servers except wild west for me
23:21 <Vanhayes> which means maz shoul def
23:21 <Lackadaisical> odd
23:21 <Vanhayes> should*
23:21 <ghableska> Vanhayes: I agree
23:22 <wrtlprnft> stupid z-man's server kicked me for idling :s
23:22 <deja_vu> spidey!
23:22 <ghableska> :(
23:22 <deja_vu> spidey: don't ignore me!
23:22 <ghableska> spidey!
23:22 <wrtlprnft> spidey is away right now
23:23 <deja_vu> why?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> dunno
23:23 <deja_vu> how am i supposed to annoy him that way?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> just do it
23:23 <deja_vu> hm
23:23 <wrtlprnft> he says he's gonna read everything that contains spidey
23:23 <deja_vu> ok
23:23 <deja_vu> spidey :D
23:23 <deja_vu> spidey: i hope you're back soon
23:23 <wrtlprnft> you sure?
23:24 <deja_vu> uhm
23:24 <deja_vu> ^^'
23:24 <deja_vu> don't remind me of the consequences of my actions ;)
23:25 <Vanhayes> #last --frome spidey --with 2
23:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
23:25 <Vanhayes> #last --from spidey --with 2
23:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: [16:49:51] <spidey> cya in a day or 2
23:26 <deja_vu> :O
23:26 <deja_vu> at least he'll know we miss him
23:26 <Vanhayes> heh but that was about a day and a half ago so...
23:26 <Vanhayes> well 32 hours anyway
23:27 <wrtlprnft> i wanna sleep in peace!
23:27 <Vanhayes> #time
23:27 <armabot> Vanhayes: 01:58 AM, September 04, 2006
23:27 <Vanhayes> wow
23:27 <wrtlprnft> so don't curse it and make him come back too early
23:27 <wrtlprnft> err, WHAT?
23:27 <Vanhayes> that cant be right
23:27 <wrtlprnft> that's wrong
23:27 <Vanhayes> ya thats 7 hours off for me
23:28 <Vanhayes> er -3
23:28 <deja_vu> Sun Sep  3 23:29:06 CEST 2006
23:28 <deja_vu> ;)
23:28 <wrtlprnft> uh, that's the correct time
23:28 <wrtlprnft> now i see why make is complaining
23:28 <ghableska> 88-92 :X
23:28 <wrtlprnft> my server's ahead of its time
23:28 <wrtlprnft> you can win that!
23:29 <Lackadaisical> exciting
23:29 <wrtlprnft> #time
23:29 <deja_vu> very
23:29 <ghableska> heh
23:29 <ghableska> 90-92 now...
23:29 <ghableska> :P
23:29 <wrtlprnft> hello armabot 
23:29 <wrtlprnft> time!
23:29 <wrtlprnft> #time
23:29 <Lackadaisical> lol
23:29 <deja_vu> *g*
23:29 <wrtlprnft> it probably got confused by the jump
23:29 <Vanhayes> armabot should say something
23:29 <ghableska> wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!
23:29 <ghableska> :D
23:30 -!- armabot [n=armabot@85.233.38.240] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
23:30 <Lackadaisical> you won?!
23:30 <Vanhayes> armabot should have should
23:30 <ghableska> now we get to play you :P
23:30 <Lackadaisical> haha great
23:30 <Vanhayes> heh nice
23:30 <Vanhayes> grats
23:30 <wrtlprnft> YAY
23:30 <Sticky> wow
23:30 <wrtlprnft> grats
23:30 <Sticky> good come back
23:30 <wrtlprnft> rock it AW!
23:30 <Lackadaisical> win for aw
23:30 <Sticky> WD
23:30 <ghableska> :D
23:30 <ghableska> alex was amazing
23:30 -!- armabot [n=armabot@85.233.38.240] has joined #armagetron
23:30 <wrtlprnft> ok, all join z-man's?
23:30 <wrtlprnft> #time
23:30 <Lackadaisical> we are at zmans tournament
23:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 11:31 PM, September 03, 2006
23:30 <Lackadaisical> spread the word ghab
23:30 <wrtlprnft> better
23:31 -!- madmax|pt [n=madmax@81.193.17.187] has joined #armagetron
23:31 <madmax|pt> 2-1 for us in case you dont know
23:31 <wrtlprnft> yeah, ghableska kept us updated
23:31 <wrtlprnft> grats
23:31 <ghableska> heh
23:32 <ghableska> grr, can't join
23:32 <Sticky> hmm
23:33 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: try again
23:33 <ghableska> ok
23:33 <ghableska> grr, still full
23:34 <Vanhayes> its in AST server now
23:34 <Sticky> AST server
23:34 <wrtlprnft> x_X
23:34 <Lackadaisical> lol the master server is ful?
23:34 <wrtlprnft> haha
23:34 <wrtlprnft> got the same message
23:34 <wrtlprnft> one is, probably
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23:37 <i2020> come to ast
23:40 <wrtlprnft> i am in ast
23:41 <wrtlprnft> online on jabber now...
23:41 <Your_mom_arma> ummm
23:41 <Your_mom_arma> master login denied
23:41 <wrtlprnft> haha
23:41  * wrtlprnft hopes it's not his master that's screwed
23:41 <Your_mom_arma> it said the master server was full
23:42 <wrtlprnft> which one?
23:43 <Your_mom_arma> idk it faded away and i just restarted arma
23:43 <wrtlprnft> haha localhost is banned from my master for 93 minutes
23:43 <wrtlprnft> need to fix that or armaspy won't work
23:43 <Your_mom_arma> banned forom the master server?
23:43 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:44 <wrtlprnft> happens if you log in too frequently
23:44 <wrtlprnft> 91 minutes now
23:44 <wrtlprnft> i was testing so i had my script connect to it all the time
23:44  * Your_mom_arma slams on r button
23:45 <wrtlprnft> better don't
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23:46 <Your_mom_arma> ast server full 12/0
23:47 <wrtlprnft> uh, you aren't supposed to join
23:47 <wrtlprnft> it's a ladle server
23:47 <wrtlprnft> or are you on AW?
23:47 <Your_mom_arma> not really
23:48 <Your_mom_arma> i put my money on aw b
23:48 -!- Legit [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
23:48 <i2020> van left again
23:48 <wrtlprnft> :)
23:49 <Your_mom_arma> the only time i can get ctf flag to crash is when im not recording
23:51 <Your_mom_arma> #help last
23:51 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
23:52 <Your_mom_arma> #last {from} Ground*
23:52 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
23:53 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: don't bother
23:53 <wrtlprnft> i just restarted armabot 
23:58 <Your_mom_arma> okay
23:58 <wrtlprnft> #realchatlogs
23:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
23:58 <Your_mom_arma> how would you type it tho?

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