IRCLogs for #armagetron in 2006-12 • ArmaNelgTron.tk

Log from 2006-12-01:
--- Day changed Fri Dec 01 2006
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> I found it easiest to grab the mortar (which was 30x30), select all, copy, and have snap-to-grid enabled when I pasted
00:00 <Your_mom_arma> i did the same
00:00 <Lucifer_arma> then it snaps right into the square quite nicely :)
00:01 <Lucifer_arma> now we need a real icbm graphic :)
00:02 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose I could use just the cruise missile graphic with the nuke symbol on it for the tactical nuclear missile, and then the nuclear missile as icbm (which is as it is now), and then stick the nuke symbol on it to make it a nuke
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01:56  * Your_mom_arma coughs
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02:14 <spidey> luci ping :p
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02:23 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:23 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 17.6°F (6:54 PM CST on November 30, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa. 
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02:44 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
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03:03 <MaZuffeR> http://jayisgames.com/ <-- arma review, there's probably gonna be more newbies than normally the next days
03:04 <spidey> ph34r TEH l33t newbies and 2 day clans
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ping
03:06 <spidey> pong
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> game's on.  :)  I'm still present somewhat intermittently, though.
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> but you're safe to join without waiting hours for a turn
03:08 <Lucifer_arma> if you and luke-jr_ (hi there!) want to join, we can go to a 6-8 minute timeout
03:10 <spidey> same
03:10 <spidey> i'm like
03:10 <spidey> playing two games
03:10 <spidey> heh
03:10 <spidey> expect 5-6 minute turns =/
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03:46 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:46 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 17.6°F (7:54 PM CST on November 30, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa. 
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03:46 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
03:46 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 27.7°F (8:47 PM CST on November 30, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa.  Freeze warning in effect until 10 am CST Friday... 
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04:04 <GodTodd> quitter...
04:12 <Compn> ?
04:12 <Compn> you are playing?
04:12 <GodTodd> playing what?
04:13 <Compn> hnm
04:13 <Compn> nm
04:14 <GodTodd> oh...i forgot...*i'm* too stupid to talk to humans...
04:15 <ghableska> it's alright, most of us are :P
04:16 <GodTodd> yeah...sometimes i forget myself and actually say stuff
04:17 <ghableska> *gasP*
04:17 <GodTodd> i apologize to all the humans here who are offended by my too-vocal presence ;)
04:17 <ghableska> heh :)
04:17 <GodTodd> i also forgot the number one rule for the channel
04:17 <GodTodd> #joke
04:17 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
04:18 <ghableska> ha ha ha...
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05:00 <ghableska> #night
05:00 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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05:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ?
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> server didn't crash, did it?
05:05 <spidey> no
05:05 <spidey> lol
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05:59 <Lucifer_arma> The Japanese are no more!
05:59 <spidey> nothing to brag about, it's only luke..
06:00 <luke-jr__> ...
06:00 <luke-jr__> you mean it's only an AI
06:01 <spidey> you started it
06:01 <spidey> incase you didn't notice, i /awayed mine to
06:01 <luke-jr__> irrelevant
06:01 <spidey> and since i started it
06:01 <spidey> it DID GOOD
06:02 <spidey> you just suck
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:02 <spidey> hell
06:02 <luke-jr__> 1) I /away'd earlier
06:02 <spidey> when i came back
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, I did hit it really fucking hard
06:02 <luke-jr__> 2) you had allies
06:02 <spidey> bullshit
06:02 <spidey> i'm at war with all but 3 AI's
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> luke, the whole reason I went after Japan was because it was allied to my enemy and too close to me, I had to secure that corner
06:02 <luke-jr__> Japan didn't have any allies...
06:02 <spidey> i've been at war with all but 4 untill i backstabbed that stupid ai that got me into the all AI war and didn't help me
06:02 <spidey> >.>
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm getting suspicious of the sioux
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> they're making threatening moves in my direction, and I still haven't taken out all the islands around me
06:03 <luke-jr__> spidey: either stfu or help w/ setup MergedFB
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> there's still two islands adjacent to mine that are hostile
06:03 <spidey> ..
06:03 <spidey> this has to do with ogame, not mergedfb
06:04 <spidey> arf
06:04 <spidey> freeciv
06:04 <luke-jr__> stfu then
06:04 <spidey> baka
06:04 <spidey> BAKA
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> CACA!
06:04 <spidey> TABAKA!
06:06 <spidey> luke-jr__, you stfu
06:06 <spidey> noob ;x
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06:17 <Durka> #lastseen whatup
06:17 <Durka> ...
06:17 <armabot> Durka: ~*wHaTuP*~ has last been seen on Fortress Café 3 days 8 hours 44 minutes ago.
06:17 <Durka> #lastseen dwh
06:18 <armabot> Durka: timed out
06:19 <Durka> thank god :)
06:32 <Durka> #lastseen belenus
06:32 <armabot> Durka: belenus has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 8 hours 9 minutes ago.
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06:45 <spidey> #lastseen stfu
06:46 <armabot> spidey: timed out
06:53 <spidey> argh
06:53 <spidey> i downloaded 2.8.2
06:53 <spidey> HOW WILL I LIVE WITHOUT MY COCKPIT/MAP :<
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07:22 <wrtlprnft> spidey: then don't download that old crap? :P
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07:27 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60016
07:27 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is 26.0°F. Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 77%. Wind: N at 12 mph (19 km/h).
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07:45 <Durka> SPIDEY!
07:45 <Durka> §p¡de¥ |mß¢|
07:45 <wrtlprnft> o_O
07:49 <Durka> spidey wanted me to send him that to put in his user.cfg :)
07:51 <wrtlprnft> §πıÐ∈¥ ¦Mß¢¦ :P
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> alright, I'm just about bored with this game now
07:53 <SuPeRTaRD> #cnn 78758
07:53 <armabot> SuPeRTaRD: The current temperature in Austin, TX is 36.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Wind: NW at 8 mph (13 km/h).
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> I landed an air transport in a city carrying 8 howitzers, and the same turn I took 6 cities, leaving the ai with just one on the island
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> I finally hit the end of range on the icbms, so now it takes two turns to deliver one to target :/
07:55  * Lucifer_arma needs to add nuclear icbms to his ruleset.  We'll have the Cold War in freeciv!
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> only with the folks around here, that just guarantees the game will end with a cratered cinder of a planet
07:55 <spidey> omfg
07:56 <spidey> tron
07:56 <spidey> fucked
07:56  * Durka Lucifer_amra
07:56 <spidey> my resolution up
07:56  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
07:56 <spidey> i'm seeing triples man
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> I see 2020's here impersonating spidey again
07:56 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: 
07:56  * Durka wrtlprnft 
07:56  * Durka rolfmao @ wrtlpwned
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
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07:57 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
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07:58 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
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07:59 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
07:59 <spidey> dude
07:59 <spidey> i think i found a bug....
08:00 <spidey> tron totally fucked my resolution :/
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> why does every clan say they're well-respected in tron?
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> are there any such clans, anyway?
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> acceptance != respect!
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:00 <spidey> respect != give a siht
08:00 <spidey> xD
08:01 <spidey> #list alias
08:01 <armabot> spidey: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
08:01 <luke-jr_> #g 433x270 mm in inch
08:01 <armabot> luke-jr_: 433 x 270 millimeters = 4,602.75591 inch
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:01 <spidey> luke-jr_, stfu
08:01 <luke-jr_> dumb google
08:01 <luke-jr_> #g 433 mm in inch
08:01 <armabot> luke-jr_: 433 millimeters = 17.0472441 inch
08:01 <luke-jr_> #g 270 mm in inch
08:01 <armabot> luke-jr_: 270 millimeters = 10.6299213 inch
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:01 <spidey> luke-jr_, not dumb google
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> dumb luke-jr_ (hi there!) (see)
08:02 <spidey> g 433 mm x 270 mm in in
08:02 <spidey> #g 433 mm x 270 mm in in
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> now dumb spidey
08:02 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:02 <spidey> my pound key is broke
08:02 <spidey> =/
08:02 <spidey> i can only use right shift for it >.>
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> I guess you'll have to $ your sausage instead
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:02 <spidey> LOL
08:03 <spidey> i want one of those :<
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> ?
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:03 <luke-jr_> #g 312 mm in inch
08:03 <armabot> luke-jr_: 312 millimeters = 12.2834646 inch
08:03  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:03 <luke-jr_> hm
08:03 <luke-jr_> IRC needs to not use both monitors :p
08:03 <luke-jr_> #g 234 mm in inch
08:03 <armabot> luke-jr_: 234 millimeters = 9.21259843 inch
08:04  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:04  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:04  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:04  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:04  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:04  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:04  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:04 <Durka> HI LUCI!
08:04 <spidey> S
08:04 <spidey> T
08:04 <spidey> F
08:04 <spidey> U
08:04 <Durka> L
08:04 <Durka> O
08:04 <Durka> L
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> the nice thing about this, is that Durka will set there and keep responding while I can go smoke
08:05 <Durka> &nbsp;
08:05 <Durka> O
08:05 <Durka> K
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:05  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:05  * Lucifer_arma considers rewriting in python and using random phrases instead
08:05 <Durka> Lucifer: What do you want?
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: What do you want?
08:05 <Durka> Lucifer: What do you want?
08:06 <luke-jr_> hmm
08:06 <luke-jr_> left is 104x111 PPI, and right is 99 PPI
08:06 <Durka> Lucifer: Durka: What do I want?
08:07 <spidey> spidey talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 742 times!
08:07 <spidey> Another lonely one was wrtlprnft, who managed to hit 607 times.
08:07 <spidey> ....
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Kaufman's First Law of Party Physics:
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> 	Population density is inversely proportional
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> 	to the square of the distance from the keg.
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: 	The FIELD GUIDE to NORTH AMERICAN MALES
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> SPECIES:	Cranial Males
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> SUBSPECIES:	The Hacker (homo computatis)
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> Description:
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	Gangly and frail, the hacker has a high forehead and thinning hair.
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	Head disproportionately large and crooked forward, complexion wan and
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	sightly gray from CRT illumination.  He has heavy black-rimmed glasses
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	and a look of intense concentration, which may be due to a software
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	problem or to a pork-and-bean breakfast.
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> Feathering:
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	HOMO COMPUTATIS saw a Brylcreem ad fifteen years ago and believed it.
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	Consequently, crest is greased down, except for the cowlick.
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> Song:
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	A rather plaintive "Is it up?"
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: #if _FP_W_TYPE_SIZE < 64
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> #error "Only stud muffins allowed, schmuck."
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> #endif
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> 	-- linux/arch/sparc64/quad.c
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> I'm gonna get booted for this
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Your lucky color has faded.
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Man has never reconciled himself to the ten commandments.
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Mater artium necessitas.
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> 	[Necessity is the mother of invention].
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: 	The defense attorney was hammering away at the plaintiff:
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> "You claim," he jeered, "that my client came at you with a broken bottle
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> in his hand.  But is it not true, that you had something in YOUR hand?"
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> 	"Yes," the man admitted, "his wife. Very charming, of course,
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> but not much good in a fight."
08:10 <spidey> ..
08:10 <DrJoeTron> ping
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> hey joe
08:11 <DrJoeTron> hey there
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: No people are all bad, just as none are all good.
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> Tecumseh, (Shawnee) to his nephew Spemica Lawba 1790
08:11 <spidey> sleep time
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> 'night
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: The world really isn't any worse.  It's just that the news coverage
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> is so much better.
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: You work very hard.  Don't try to think as well.
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Save gas, don't eat beans.
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Preserve Wildlife!  Throw a party today!
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: I am approached with the most opposite opinions and advice, and by men who
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> are equally certain that they represent the divine will.  I am sure that
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> either the one or the other is mistaken in the belief, and perhaps in some
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> respects, both.
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> I hope it will not be irreverent of me to say that if it is probable that
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> God would reveal his will to others on a point so connected with my duty,
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> it might be supposed he would reveal it directly to me.
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> - Abraham Lincoln
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: If you're crossing the nation in a covered wagon, it's better to have four
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> strong oxen than 100 chickens.  Chickens are OK but we can't make them work
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> together yet.
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> 		-- Ross Bott, Pyramid U.S., on multiprocessors at AUUGM '89.
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> have been left out on the pleasure.
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> 		-- Russell Baker
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Where it is a duty to worship the sun it is pretty sure to be a crime to
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> examine the laws of heat.
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> 		-- Christopher Morley
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: We give advice, but we cannot give the wisdom to profit by it.
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> 		-- La Rochefoucauld
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple.  After that, it's all learned.
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> 	-- Bruce Ediger, bediger@teal.csn.org, on X interfaces
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Time flies like an arrow.  Fruit flies like a banana.
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: "No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it."
08:17 <Lucifer_arma>  -- C. Schulz
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: Witch!  Witch!  They'll burn ya!
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> 		-- Hag, "Tomorrow is Yesterday", stardate unknown
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> Durka: In a museum in Havana, there are two skulls of Christopher Columbus,
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> "one when he was a boy and one when he was a man."
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> 		-- Mark Twain
08:18 <luke-jr_> /kick Lucifer_arma 
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> haha
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> this is neat.  Here I am in modern warfare and I can't let up on science
08:27 <luke-jr_> *** glibc detected *** src/armagetronad_main: free(): invalid pointer: 0x00002b68f44ca010 ***
08:27 <luke-jr_> hmmm
08:27 <Durka> im still here and luci is still talking to me???
08:27 <luke-jr_> Durka: stfu
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> I wouldn't describe what I was doing as "talking" if I were you
08:29 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: should I bother debugging the memory issue, or blame it on my new video card?
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> did you recompile?
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> you know, everything in the chain?
08:31 <luke-jr_> no, can't recompile till SWIG is optional
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> well that was interesting.  All the other ais declared war on me
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> alliances broke and everything
08:32 <luke-jr_> lol
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> except the irish
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> and spidey's away ai, of course
08:33  * luke-jr_ knows how to make away-AI declare war
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> declare war on it?
08:34 <luke-jr_> no, that's not it declaring the war
08:34 <luke-jr_> declare war on its ally
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> oh
08:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's pretty much what I did, but the ai I declared war on is spidey's enemy
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> ironically, after spidey split them up, the civil war civ made an alliance with the original
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I can get the portuguese to cease-fire (no point in it though)
09:35 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6412 /private/z-man/clio/ (argument_lists.hpp macrorecursion.hpp templatearglist.hpp): Added generation of template signatures from preprocessor friendly variants
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10:20 <Lucifer_arma> man, why did it have to be the sioux?
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> what I'm doing amounts to genocide, why couldn't it be the babylonians?
10:44 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6413 /private/z-man/clio/ (macros.hpp test.cpp): Restored wrappability of protected functions.
11:30 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6414 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files): Template classes now wrappable with macros.
11:32 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: was that durka or a python bot of yours?
11:32 <Lucifer_arma> ?
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> oh, no, that was durka
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> and me using a shell script + dcop :)
11:39 <wrtlprnft> o_O
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13:01 <SuPeRTaRD> #cnn 78758
13:01 <armabot> SuPeRTaRD: The current temperature in Austin, TX is 32.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Wind: CLM at 0 mph (0 km/h).
13:06 <Lucifer_arma> yep, it's cold all right
13:07 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
13:07 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 29.8°F (6:03 AM CST on December 01, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect until 9 am CST this morning... 
13:07 <Lucifer_arma> my thermometer says 32
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13:28 <DrJoeTron> #weather 60016
13:28 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Chicago Palwaukee, Illinois is 32.0°F (6:09 AM CST on December 01, 2006). Conditions: Heavy Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 29.49 in 998 hPa.  Winter Storm Warning in effect until noon CST today... 
13:29 <DrJoeTron> sweet deal
13:29 <DrJoeTron> guess im going skitchin tonight possibly
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13:34 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6415 /private/z-man/clio/ (macros.hpp test.cpp):
13:34 <armabot> armagetronad: Base classes of templates don't need to be explicitly instantiated; their functions will be available automatically to all derived template classes.
13:34 <armabot> armagetronad: Template classes can now have virtual functions overridden in script, some type passing magic was required.
13:34 <armabot> armagetronad: Prepended virtual function macros with CLIO_.
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15:37 <DrJoeTron> Snow Blower 3
15:37 <DrJoeTron> Winter 7
15:37 <DrJoeTron> winter wins
15:38 <DrJoeTron> or in pokemon form
15:38 <DrJoeTron> SnowBlower uses Blow Attack
15:38 <DrJoeTron> Winter uses Snow Attack
15:38 <DrJoeTron> Crittical Hit!
15:38 <DrJoeTron> It's Super Effective
15:39 <DrJoeTron> Snow Blower Fainted.
16:27 <spidey> GAY
16:27 <spidey> lets play defcon ;x
16:27 <spidey> or...OR....defcon :D
16:28 <spidey> btw
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16:28 <spidey> 'er
16:41 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6416 /private/z-man/clio/ (dataconversion.hpp iclassinfo.hpp macros.hpp test.cpp): Templates that are used as function arguments or return values in wrapped methods are now auto-instantiated and can be used from io.
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17:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6417 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files): Added support for nesting classes.
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19:28 <Nixda852> hey
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19:28 <Nightmare> hey
19:28 <Nightmare> is there anyone here lol
19:29 <luke-jr_> no
19:29 <Nightmare> too bad
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20:01 <navi2shavi> hey girls
20:01 <navi2shavi> helloo girls
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20:04 <Nixda984> hey guys
20:04 <Nixda984> supertard
20:05 <Nixda984> mazufer
20:05 <Nixda984> luke
20:05 <Nixda984> zman
20:05 <Nixda984> wrtlprnft
20:05 <Nixda984> spidey
20:05 <Nixda984> armabot
20:05 <Nixda984> joetron
20:05 <Nixda984> godtodd
20:05 <Nixda984> guru2
20:05 <Nixda984> john3nn2s
20:05 <Nixda984> dlh
20:05 <Nixda984> np tangent
20:05 <Nixda984> xpert darkstar
20:05 <Nixda984> everyone
20:05 <Nixda984> hows it goin
20:05 <Nixda984> nigga
20:05 <Nixda984> ss
20:05 <Nixda984> sss
20:05 <Nixda984> ssssssssssssss
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20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6418 /private/z-man/clio/ (classinfo.hpp macros.hpp):
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: Added support for non-polymorphic inheritance.
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: Added very abstract classes (can't even be destroyed).
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6419 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Added wrappers for tArray.
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21:04 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:04 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (10 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (10 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Temporary Server (8 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (8 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) (1 more message)
21:54 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6420 /private/z-man/clio/ (macros.hpp state.hpp test.cpp): Experimienting with the int & return value trouble.
21:55 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6421 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/ (engine/ePlayer.cpp tron/gArmagetron.cpp): Fixed memory leaks, nobody was feeling responsible for cleaning up the Io states.
21:55 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6422 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/tools/tArray.h: Fixed a warning in a normally unused function that triggered a long instantiated here... chain when wrapped.
21:56 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6423 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/tools/tArray_wrap.h: Adapted to template class macro change.
22:12 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6424 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/ (overlay/ overlays.xml): begin work on Gentoo overlay
22:28 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6425 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/ (games-action/ games-action/armagetronad/ profile/): overlay dirs
22:38 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6426 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Nov 31, 2006-- SF changes Svn access URIs on us
22:57 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6427 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (armagetronad-0.2.8.0.ebuild armagetronad-0.2.8.1.ebuild): copy old ebuilds from history
22:58 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6428 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.2.8.2.ebuild: 0.2.8.2
23:05 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6429 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (4 files): descriptions and svn:keywords
23:05 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6430 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.2.8.0.ebuild: 0.2.8.0 had security issues, so remove it entirely
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23:11 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6431 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (armagetronad-0.2.8.2.ebuild files/): begin 0.2.8.2 port
23:12 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6432 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/files/0280_fix-sysinstall.patch: patch needed for older 0.2.8
23:32 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6433 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (armagetronad-0.2.8.1.ebuild armagetronad-0.2.8.2.ebuild): sync 0.2.8.1 and 0.2.8.2
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> quiet!
23:40 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6434 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/ (3 files in 2 dirs): krawall doesnt work, so dont tolerate it
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23:51 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6435 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (Manifest files/digest-armagetronad-0.2.8.1): 0.2.8.1 works
23:51 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:51 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (3:54 PM CST on December 01, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa. 
23:54 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
23:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Rain at times heavy ending overnight then cloudy. Amount 30 to 40 mm. Fog patches dissipating overnight. Wind northeast 30 km/h becoming east 40 gusting to 60 early this evening then becoming southwest 40 gusting to 60 overnight. (1 more message)
23:55 <ghableska> heh, nothing but rain up there?
23:55 <Vanhayes> nope
23:55 <Vanhayes> we had a half week break but its back
23:55 <Vanhayes> #more
23:55 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature rising to 11 by morning.; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud with 30 percent chance of showers. Wind west 40 km/h gusting to 60. Temperature falling to 6 in the afternoon. Saturday night..cloudy periods. Wind west 30 km/h gusting to 50. Low minus 5.; Sunday - Sunny. High plus 1.;
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23:58 <[NP]Tangent> #weather Littleton
23:58 <armabot> [NP]Tangent: The current temperature in Littleton, CO is 31.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 56%. Wind: SSE at 8 mph (13 km/h).
23:59 <ghableska> #armaservers
23:59 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.

Log from 2006-12-02:
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00:04 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6436 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (Manifest files/digest-armagetronad-0.2.8.2): 0.2.8.2 works
00:06 <ghableska> wb
00:07 <ghableska> Vanhayes: come to fortress cafe, it's crowded :)
00:10 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:11 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
00:17 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
00:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (Swamplords Server) (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || Strawberry Fields (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7 players) || MicroBusCity.com (6 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (6 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (5 (1 more message)
00:18 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
00:19 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): chat°aot, free kill, G5, gArIsImO, ghableska, Kamakazi, Leanne, MaZuffeR, OMG A WALL, Twister, Vogel, W20, Zop, |sd| wabash, ¬[XS]¬o2, °¯AshitakA
00:24 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6437 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (Manifest armagetronad-0.2.8.2.ebuild): 0.2.8.2 doesnt need config.h hacking anymore I think
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01:04 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6439 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.3.0.ebuild: remove 0.3.0 ebuild-- its better replaced w/ a new copy
01:05 <luke-jr_> btw
01:05 <luke-jr_> you can all layman -a armagetron now
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01:11 <ghableska> :P
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
01:20 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 50.7°F (6:18 PM CST on December 01, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Rising). 
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> brrrrrrrrrr
01:27 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6440 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 0.2.8.2.1 works as a copy of 0.2.8.2
01:27 <ghableska> :P
01:44 <luke-jr_> Lucifer_arma: does DEBUGLEVEL 3 disable sound in 0.3.0?
01:47 <Lucifer_arma> not that I know of.
01:48 <luke-jr_> it did in 0.2.8
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01:53 <Lucifer_arma> what language evaluates 0.2.8 == 0.3.0 to true?
01:54 <luke-jr_> dunno, who tried to do that
01:54 <luke-jr_> ?
01:55 <luke-jr_> interesting
01:55 <luke-jr_> 0.3.0 doesn't build a server for me :/
01:55 <luke-jr_> thirdparty/shttpd/libshttpd.a(libshttpd_a-shttpd.o): In function `do_embedded':
01:55 <luke-jr_> shttpd.c:(.text+0x5603): undefined reference to `pthread_create'
01:55 <luke-jr_> shttpd.c:(.text+0x560d): undefined reference to `pthread_detach'
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> what city is directly north of redmond?
02:04 <Lucifer_arma> that's obviously a linker problem, check the makefile for it
02:40 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6441 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 0.3.0 for ~arch
02:45 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6442 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (5 files): Warning for USE=debug and experimental
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03:12 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: turn, turn, turn
03:13 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: [20:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Luke to finish turn...
03:13 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: turn, turn, turn
03:13 <GodTodd> luke-jr_: [20:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Luke to finish turn...
03:31 <GodTodd> ...
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04:10 <spidey> GodTodd, ?
04:10 <GodTodd> spidey, ?
04:11 <spidey> <GodTodd> luke-jr_: turn, turn, turn
04:11 <spidey> <GodTodd> luke-jr_: [20:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Luke to finish turn...
04:11 <spidey> <GodTodd> luke-jr_: turn, turn, turn
04:11 <spidey> <GodTodd> luke-jr_: [20:12:32] Turn-blocking game play: waiting on Luke to finish turn...
04:12 <GodTodd> yeah...and?
04:14 <luke-jr_> spidey: thanks
04:14 <luke-jr_> GodTodd: thanks too
04:14 <luke-jr_> even if I am 45 mins too late
04:14 <luke-jr_> XD
04:15 <spidey> luke-jr_, start a server =p
04:15 <luke-jr_> eh
04:15 <luke-jr_> but I was being productive...
04:15 <spidey> to bad
04:16 <luke-jr_> ok, lemme restart X first :x
04:16 <spidey> lol
04:19 <luke-jr_> #list
04:19 <armabot> luke-jr_: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
04:19 <luke-jr_> #list cia
04:19 <armabot> luke-jr_: addhandler, describe, listhandlers, removehandler, and runhandler
04:19 <luke-jr_> #runhandler
04:19 <armabot> luke-jr_: (runhandler <shortname> [<text>]) -- Executes the handler given by shortname manually.
04:19 <luke-jr_> #runhandler aabetaupdate
04:19 <armabot> luke-jr_: executed handler aabetaupdate successfully
04:19 <luke-jr_> liar
04:19 <luke-jr_> #runhandler aabetaupdatea
04:19 <armabot> luke-jr_: aabetaupdatea not found.  Sorry.
04:19 <luke-jr_> #runhandler aabetaupdate
04:19 <armabot> luke-jr_: executed handler aabetaupdate successfully
04:21 <luke-jr_> poj
04:22 <spidey> poj?
04:23 <spidey> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1904065
04:23 <spidey> ;x
04:27 <spidey> Subsystem for UNIX-Based Applications (SUA) is a component that provides platform services to run UNIX system–based applications and scripts on Windows Vista Enterprise. SUA is a completely native subsystem, similar to the traditional Windows subsystem that resides on top of the kernel; it is not an emulation layer. SUA eases interoperability between Windows and UNIX/Linux environments and UNIX-based enterprise application
04:27 <spidey> s porting to the Windows platform. SUA recompiles UNIX system–based applications on Windows to help you overcome barriers when you move your workloads to the Windows platform.
04:31 <ghableska> o.0
04:35 <luke-jr_> if*
04:36 <spidey> if?
04:36 <spidey> if what?
04:37 <spidey> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2552650&CatId=0
04:37 <spidey> i want that..
04:38 <spidey> couple car batteries and you got a nice AC backup unit ;x
04:44 <spidey> luke-jr_, btw that's a feature of windows vista enterprise
04:44 <spidey> not "if"
04:44 <spidey> :
04:44 <spidey> :p
04:45 <spidey> GodTodd, Lucifer_arma Lucifer_arma Vanhayes wanna play freeciv? ;x
04:46 <GodTodd> i ain't playing if Lucifer_arma is playing two civs :P
04:46 <spidey> eh?
04:46 <GodTodd> spidey> GodTodd, Lucifer_arma Lucifer_arma Vanhayes wanna play freeciv? ;x
04:46 <spidey> two?
04:46 <GodTodd> ^^^
04:46 <spidey> lol
04:46 <spidey> ok
04:46 <spidey> GodTodd, Lucifer_arma luke-jr_ Vanhayes 
04:46 <spidey> :p
04:51 <Vanhayes> spidey: not tonight, im erally tried, cold and wet so I think  Im going to go to bed now
04:51 <Vanhayes> #night
04:51 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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04:51 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:51 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 21.2°F (8:54 PM CST on December 01, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 12.2°F. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa. 
04:52 <luke-jr_> anyone a HTML expert?
04:52 <luke-jr_> I'll start a server when aabeta is fixed
04:52 <GodTodd> thought you were an expert in everything
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05:05 <spidey> luke-jr_, what about html?
05:09 <luke-jr_> nm fixed it
05:09 <luke-jr_> brb\
05:10 <GodTodd> see? i had faith in  you...
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05:18 <spidey> #g 9.90 EUR in USD
05:18 <armabot> spidey: 9.90 Euros = 13.06701 U.S. dollars
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05:19 <ghableska> #g 1 EUR in USD
05:19 <armabot> ghableska: 1 Euro = 1.3199 U.S. dollars
05:21 <Luke-Jr> server's up
05:22 <spidey> GodTodd, Lucifer_arma 
05:28 <Luke-Jr> O.o
05:31 <Luke-Jr> [NP]Tangent: [Xpert]DarkStar DrJoeTron ghableska GodTodd guru3 Lucifer_arma mkzelda Plazma spidey SuPeRTaRD wejp_ wrtlprnft z-man-work 
05:31 <spidey> half of them don't play freeciv
05:31 <spidey> rofl
05:31 <ghableska> o.0
05:31 <ghableska> :P
05:32 <ghableska> I think I may have downloaded it and put it somewhere...
05:32 <Luke-Jr> time to install it
05:33 <Luke-Jr> 8)
05:37 <DrJoeTron> man
05:37 <ghableska> no, time to sleep
05:37 <DrJoeTron> rushing games is great
05:37 <ghableska> #night
05:37 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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05:39 <GodTodd> hrmm
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05:42 <Luke-Jr> GodTodd: \\
05:42 <GodTodd> yes?
05:43 <Luke-Jr> come play
05:43 <GodTodd> i'm RTFMing so i don't have to ask questions in here...
05:43 <Luke-Jr> ...
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> does your server have icbms?
05:47 <spidey> lol
05:47 <spidey> actually
05:48 <spidey> your ruleset can get boring against AI's
05:48 <spidey> since they seem to slow research after cannons
05:49 <spidey> what i really want is to play a game against 2 HUGE ai's 
05:49 <spidey> like
05:50 <spidey> 100 cities huge
05:59 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: come play
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> no you don't, spidey.  My ruleset is boring against AIs.  :/
06:13 <spidey> "can" be
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> that's why we need to quit wussing out over doing human vs human.  We don't suck anymore, we don't get owned by the ais anymore.
06:14 <spidey> human vs human is fine for me
06:14 <spidey> luke's the wussy
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> no, it most certainly is.  Did you take it farther and play icbms against the ais?
06:14 <spidey> why should i?
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> now, if I add nuclear icbms (and I'll probably rename them to long-range missiles anyway), we get a situation where we can have a real nuclear standoff
06:14 <spidey> airtransports and howitzers, that's all i ever use
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> "I've got enough missiles to blow you away!"  "Oh yeah?  Well so do I!"
06:15 <spidey> well
06:15 <spidey> transports
06:15 <spidey> but now airtransports
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> the air transports are awesome.  :)
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> I still suspect the nuclear bombers aren't going to work out, though, unless they're cheaper and there's no tactical nuclear missile
06:19 <Luke-Jr> I think Lucifer_arma's the one who's been wussing out of games lately
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06:31  * GodTodd does the obligatory sit-com "oooooooooooh" noise.
06:35 <Luke-Jr> Lucifer_arma: tuuuuuuuuuuurn!
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> too busy wussing out
06:38 <SuPeRTaRD> #cnn 78758
06:38 <armabot> SuPeRTaRD: The current temperature in Austin, TX is 43.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Wind: SSW at 3 mph (5 km/h).
06:48 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
06:48 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 32.2°F (11:49 PM CST on December 01, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa. 
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
06:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 41.7°F (11:48 PM CST on December 01, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa. 
06:56 <spidey> #weather 38256
06:56 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 24.8°F (11:57 PM CST on December 01, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027.0 hPa. 
06:56 <spidey> ack
06:57 <spidey> it's below freexing
06:57 <spidey> freezing
06:57 <spidey> gay
07:10 <spidey> #g 0 f in c
07:10 <armabot> spidey: 0 degrees Fahrenheit = -17.7777778 degrees Celsius
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10:29 <wrtlprnft> #morning
10:30 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune: BLISS is ignorance.
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10:36 <wrtlprnft> wow. Did something special happen yesterday?
10:36 <wrtlprnft> there were about 150 people online on friday around 23:00
10:37 <Luke-Jr> ...
10:37 <Luke-Jr> I'm sure there was more than 150 people online
10:37 <wrtlprnft> i mean on public arma servers
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10:42 <Nixda966> weis jemand wie man bei armagetron drei farben bei den namen m,acht???
10:43 <Nixda966> HALOO???
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11:19 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
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11:20 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6457 /private/z-man/clio/ (12 files): Revamped data conversion for increased flexibility (and longer compile time).
11:21 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6458 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/tools/ (tArray_wrap.cpp tArray_wrap.h tString_wrap.h): Added conversion rule for tString and instantiated tArray< tString >.
11:40 <guru3> good morning
11:42 <spidey> morning!
11:42 <spidey> well, night for me :p close to bedtime xD
11:45 <wrtlprnft> morning/night/whatever
11:48 <spidey> 5am
11:48 <spidey> but
11:48 <spidey> sleeptime is coming :D
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12:50 <Luzifer> #good morning
12:50 <Luzifer> #list
12:50 <armabot> Luzifer: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Herald, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
12:50 <Luzifer> #roulette
12:50 <armabot> Luzifer: *click*
12:50 <Luzifer> #roulette
12:50 <armabot> Luzifer: *click*
12:50 <Luzifer> #roulette
12:50 <armabot> Luzifer: *click*
12:50 <Luzifer> #roulette
12:50 <armabot> Luzifer: *click*
12:50 <Luzifer> #roulette
12:50 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
12:50  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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13:27 <spidey> deja_vu, 
13:28 <deja_vu> spidey: 
13:28 <spidey> deja_vu, 
13:29 <deja_vu> i will not continue this. :P
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13:47 <Lucifer_arma> I will not continue this.
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13:49 <Lucifer_arma> alright, in one month's advertising on the wiki, $24.61
13:50 <deja_vu> O.o
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14:17 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
14:17 <spidey> you should see my civ now
14:18 <spidey> 323m tons of production, 12 cities, 0 pollution ;x
14:18 <spidey> plus
14:18 <spidey> a 230 or so gold/turn profit ;x
14:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6459 /private/z-man/clio/ (classname.hpp dataconversion.hpp macros.hpp test.cpp): Support for wrapping classes in namespaces. The wrapping still has to be done in the root namespace, and there is little that can be done about that.
15:07 <spidey> well
15:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma,  62 shield city takes 3 turns to produce a bomber
15:08 <spidey> o.O
15:09 <spidey> hell
15:09 <spidey> besides  wonders taking 10 turns, there isn't a thing i can't spit out in 3 turns :))
15:10 <wrtlprnft> http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352&group_id=1#1164984642
15:10 <wrtlprnft> NOT AGAIN!
15:10 <wrtlprnft> you know how long it takes to switch ~10 working copies?
15:10 <spidey> ?
15:11 <wrtlprnft> !
15:11 <wrtlprnft> stupid sourceforge
15:11 <wrtlprnft> i suggest we switch to GNA! or something smaller x_X
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15:15 <spidey> ?
15:17 <wrtlprnft> read the page.
15:19 <spidey> hm
15:22 <spidey> http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/63/goldmk3.gif
15:22 <spidey> http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2833/productionrf9.gif
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16:57 <ghableska> hello
17:02 <ghableska> #armaservers
17:02 <armabot> ghableska: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (5 players) || icemans network nuke zone - www.icemans.net (5 players) || (1 more message)
17:02 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
17:02 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
17:06 <wrtlprnft> :s
17:07 <wrtlprnft> seems to be empty more often than not
17:07 <ghableska> aww
17:07 <ghableska> I'm sure it'll get crowded in a few hours
17:07 <ghableska> what are the peak times?
17:12 <wrtlprnft> well, the total player peak time is around 23:00 GMT+1
17:12 <wrtlprnft> that's in 6 hours
17:13 <ghableska> ok
17:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6460 /private/z-man/clio/ (classname.hpp macros.hpp): GCC 4.1.1 compatibility.
17:18 <wrtlprnft> kick-ass minimap-related commit incoming!
17:21 <ghableska> :P
17:22 <spidey> #night
17:22 <armabot> Good night spidey!
17:22 <ghableska> ?
17:22 <spidey> bedtime
17:22 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6461 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (12 files in 5 dirs):
17:22 <armabot> armagetronad: More stuff by voodoo (+ some stuff by me):
17:22 <armabot> armagetronad: - changed the XML format for the minimap config. You now define combinations of the various settings and a key to toggle between them
17:22 <armabot> armagetronad: - the map now supports turning by an arbitary angle. The angle can be 0, taken from the cycle direction, from the direction the cycle was spawned, or the direction the camera is facing
17:22 <ghableska> ...
17:22 <armabot> armagetronad: - the zoom factor is configurable now, too
17:22 <armabot> armagetronad: - fixed a DTD conflict
17:22 <ghableska> it's 10 in the morning
17:22 <ghableska> and you
17:22 <spidey> 10:30
17:22 <ghableska> are going to bed now?
17:22 <spidey> yup
17:22 <ghableska> o.0
17:23 <spidey> :p
17:23 <spidey> night
17:23 <ghableska> night
17:44 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6462 /private/z-man/clio/dataconversion.hpp: Fixed conversion error in primitive reference proxy.
17:49 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Cockpit_Tutorial#Map_Settings
17:50 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: that's what you wanted to do a while ago, right?
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18:12 <Ringwraith`> I am a loosah baby so why dont ya core dump mah!
18:12 <ghableska> #weather 50265
18:13 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 21.2°F (10:54 AM CST on December 02, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa. 
18:14 <Ringwraith`> #weather -32767
18:14 <armabot> Ringwraith`: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "-32767".
18:15 <wrtlprnft> #weather 65535
18:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The current temperature in Steelville, Missouri is 32.7°F (11:15 AM CST on December 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa. 
18:15 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:15 <ghableska> O_o
18:16 <wrtlprnft> o_O_o
18:16 <ghableska> o0o
18:17 <Ringwraith`> lol
18:17 <Ringwraith`> #weather 32767
18:17 <armabot> Ringwraith`: The current temperature in St. Johns River, Deland, Florida is 77.9°F (11:56 AM EST on December 02, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa. 
18:26 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
18:26 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): (Tm) Canada, meriton, Player 1, xS Lazer, °¯AshitakA
18:31 <Ringwraith`> #weather 00001
18:31 <armabot> Ringwraith`: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "00001".
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21:18 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails -v wrtl
21:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: wrtlprnft's ladle/tournament fortress (88.198.22.100:4535) running 0.2.8_alpha20061115 unix dedic, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “Hetzner server, AMD64 3700+, 1Gbit/s uplink. Standard fortress settings, but with wall shrink, free teamshuffling, no autobalancing and reduced spam protection. DEDICATED_FPS is increased to 100.“, Players (11/32): (TM) Canada, 2020, achtung sucks, G5, ketamine, (1 more message)
21:24 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6463 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Import 0.2.7.1-r1 from Gentoos portage tree
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21:35 <Canada> ELLo
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21:48 <wrtlprnft> hi
21:50 <Canada> how are you
21:50 <Canada> hows life
21:53 <Canada> ?
21:57 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-36-178-146.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
21:58 <wrtlprnft> fine
21:58 <DrJoeTron> fine!
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22:13 <Nixda858> is swampland down?
22:13 <Nixda858> swampland 2.7.1
22:14 <luke-jr> possibly
22:14 <Canada> hello guys
22:14 <luke-jr> omg
22:14 <luke-jr> go away Canada
22:14 <Nixda858> omg go away you
22:14 <Nixda858> canada
22:14 <Canada> :(
22:15 <Canada> you guys have problems.... what did i do....
22:15 <Nixda858> wheres swampland
22:15 <Nixda858> i cant see it
22:15 <luke-jr> who is Nixda858 anyhow?
22:15 <Canada> probably offline...
22:16 <Nixda858> how do i change my name
22:16 <Nixda858> im gridbug
22:16 <luke-jr>  /nick gridbug
22:16 <Canada> oh hey grid
22:16 -!- Nixda858 is now known as gridbug
22:16 <gridbug> ok
22:16 <Canada> you were in wrtl's fortress before
22:17 <gridbug> yeh
22:17 <Canada> :P
22:17 <Canada> #lastseen Canada
22:17 <armabot> Canada: (TM) Canada has last been seen on wrtlprnft's ladle/tournament fortress 26 minutes ago.
22:17 <Canada> :D
22:18 <Canada> well see ya, im going to go back to editing heavens art
22:18 <Canada> bye bye guys
22:19 <Canada> actually im going to undownload it, anyone have any ogod movie packs that they would like o share
22:20 <DrJoeTron> undownload something?
22:20 <DrJoeTron> you're lucky i've got falco blasting,
22:21 <DrJoeTron> if you respect yourself
22:21 <DrJoeTron> and your life
22:22 <DrJoeTron> you'd download armarocktron
22:22 <Canada> well i did, and it wont work
22:22 <Canada> so....
22:23 <DrJoeTron> you fail at life
22:24 <Canada> go f*** your self... god sorry i was dying to say that
22:24 <luke-jr> /kick Canada
22:25 -!- Canada [n=Arma54@pool-71-252-96-49.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Bye!"]
22:25 <DrJoeTron> again
22:25 <DrJoeTron> falco
22:25 <DrJoeTron> blasting
22:25 <DrJoeTron> cant take anything without glee right now
22:26 <luke-jr> lol
22:26 <luke-jr> say my name DrJoeTron
22:26 <DrJoeTron> Ralph
22:30 <gridbug> what
22:30 <gridbug> funny convorsation
22:30 <gridbug> why can't i kick anyone :)
22:31 <luke-jr> only guru3 can
22:32 <gridbug> ok
22:32 -!- gridbug is now known as guru2
22:33 <guru2> guru2 can't but 3 can
22:33 <guru2> what about 4
22:33 -!- guru2 is now known as guru4
22:33 <guru4> "D
22:33 -!- guru4 is now known as gridbug
22:33 <gridbug> luke where you work at
22:34 <luke-jr> ...
22:34 <gridbug> later
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23:24 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:24 <ghableska> #armaservers
23:24 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 23.0°F (3:54 PM CST on December 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 8.6°F. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa. 
23:24 <armabot> ghableska: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (13 players) || Strawberry Fields (13 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (12 players) || The Lobster Cage (7 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Temporary Server (7 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Nano* *Fortress* !!! Multi Maps (7 players) || The Tavern [armagetronad.de] (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || (1 more message)
23:24 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
23:24 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): ct|SeBoL158, Edge, G5, ~luAp~, »¥½¥«Curka»¥½¥«
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23:36 <GodTodd> bah...stupid algorithm
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23:39 <GodTodd> it's all luke-jr_work's fucking fault
23:39 <GodTodd> :)
23:39 <luke-jr> ...
23:41 <luke-jr> The <a href="http://armagetronad.net">Armagetron Advanced</a> team has recently added their own <a href="http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Gentoo_Portage_Overlay">Portage tree overlay</a> for the latest versions of their game. Currently, the overlay contains only beta-quality ebuilds for recent 0.2.8 releases and the 0.3.0 experimental release, but bug reports (<a href="http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewforum.php?f=4">to the
23:41 <luke-jr> Armagetron team</a> please, not Gentoo) will improve this with time, and there are plans to add an ebuild for the latest subversion code as well as tools (such as map designing programs).
23:41 <luke-jr> look good?
23:41 <GodTodd> looks like fucking spam
23:41 <luke-jr> stfu GodTodd
23:41 <GodTodd> no
23:41 <luke-jr> I love how SourceForge's Svn server hangs
23:42 <luke-jr> -.-
23:42 <GodTodd> ...
23:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: plz update http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar
23:55 <luke-jr> z-man-work: ping
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23:56 <TiTnAsS> supertard

Log from 2006-12-03:
--- Day changed Sun Dec 03 2006
00:13  * spidey yawns
00:13 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr 
00:13 <spidey> wanna finish that game sometime tonight?
00:21 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6464 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (5 files): fix IUSE
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00:25 <luke-jr> TiTnAsS: 
00:33 <spidey> luke-jr, 
00:33 <spidey> 500 slot server?
00:33 <spidey> o.o
00:34 <luke-jr> what
00:34 <luke-jr> you got a problem w/ it?
00:34 <luke-jr> it's been up weeks
00:36 <Vanhayes> I doubt there are 500 people in total who play tron regularly
00:37 <ghableska> heh
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00:42 <TiTnAsS> huh luke?
00:43 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: minor point
00:43 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: i think there are, but not at the same time…
00:44 <wrtlprnft> depends on how you define “regularly”, too
00:44 <luke-jr> heh
00:44 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: comments on the GWN announcement?
00:45  * luke-jr is cleaning up the 0.2.7.1 ebuild now
00:45 <GodTodd> taking the nudie pics out of it, eh?
00:46 <luke-jr> yeah
00:47 <luke-jr> actually, making it so you can install both dedicated and client on the same system
00:48 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: which one?
00:49 <TiTnAsS> luke
00:49 <TiTnAsS> what did you want
00:49 <luke-jr> The <a href="http://armagetronad.net">Armagetron Advanced</a> team has recently added their own <a href="http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Gentoo_Portage_Overlay">Portage tree overlay</a> for the latest versions of their game. Currently, the overlay contains only beta-quality ebuilds for recent 0.2.8 releases and the 0.3.0 experimental release, but bug reports (<a href="http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewforum.php?f=4">to the
00:49 <luke-jr> Armagetron team</a> please, not Gentoo) will improve this with time, and there are plans to add an ebuild for the latest subversion code as well as tools (such as map designing programs).
00:49 <luke-jr> TiTnAsS: hi, ltns
00:49 <TiTnAsS> sup
00:49 <wrtlprnft> o_O
00:49 <wrtlprnft> i'll look for a version i can actually read
00:49 <TiTnAsS> i log on tron and someone calls me fake -.-
00:49 <wrtlprnft> w/o html tags in them
00:50 <luke-jr> TiTnAsS: not much
00:51 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ... that's a draft
00:51 <luke-jr> I haven't even emailed it yet
00:51 <wrtlprnft> i guess so, now
00:51 <wrtlprnft> i don't even think we're important enough for that
00:51 <luke-jr> well, gentoo-games doesn't want to replace our portage tree stuff w/ a notice
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01:04 <wrtlprnft> actually, the bug page looks somewhat promising?
01:04 <wrtlprnft> as people are working on it, and if there's a working 0.2.8.2.1 ebuild in the tree it'll be easier to get future versions, i guess…
01:05 <wrtlprnft> > The newest registered user is buy-cialis
01:05  * wrtlprnft counts the seconds till the next spam post
01:05 <ghableska> hehe
01:05 <luke-jr> eh?
01:05 <ghableska> oh, once there was a spambot that wasn't from the US :P
01:06 <ghableska> they've gone international
01:06 <luke-jr> ghableska: I think most are outside the US...
01:06 <ghableska> well, they have the US flag in their profiles, anyway
01:07 <wrtlprnft> Registrant: MyCompany 404 main street 4th floor Boonton, NJ 07005 US
01:08 <wrtlprnft> that's what whois says about their domain
01:08 <ghableska> who?
01:08  * wrtlprnft is surprised you can actually register a domain with that info
01:08 <wrtlprnft> whois.
01:08 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whois
01:09 <ghableska> er, nvm
01:10 <wrtlprnft> MyCompany, 404 main street? come on, any human who reads this knows it's a fake
01:10 <ghableska> lol
01:10 <Vanhayes> I dont know humans can be pretty dumb
01:11 <ghableska> *cough*
01:12 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: actually, the current mutilation of an ebuild on the bug sucks
01:14 <wrtlprnft> be happy something's happening and people are working on it.
01:17 <luke-jr> something's happening because I'm working on it
01:17 <luke-jr> the overlay is functional, it just needs announcing
01:19 <wrtlprnft> why don't you try to get it into sunrise or something?
01:21 <luke-jr> some people don't want to use sunrise?
01:21 <luke-jr> I'm not sure I would
01:22 <luke-jr> why does 0271 compile so much faster?
01:23 <wrtlprnft> because it contains less stuff?
01:24 <luke-jr> that much??
01:24 <spidey> dude
01:24 <spidey> this whole
01:25 <spidey> tron fucking my resolution thing.. =/
01:26 <ghableska> :P
01:26 <spidey> like
01:26 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: how much faster does it compile? :P
01:26 <spidey> i stop playing tron, and i'll see 3 screens in one >.>
01:26 <wrtlprnft> i haven't compiled that old crap for at least a year now
01:27 <wrtlprnft> then don't stop playing tron.
01:27 <spidey> ...
01:27 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: 0271 is done in < 2 min
01:27 <luke-jr> 028+ takes a good 10 minutes at least
01:27 <wrtlprnft> dunno. What changed exactly?
01:28 <luke-jr> I forget, 0271 was before I did much hacking on it
01:28 <wrtlprnft> we have maps now, your axes stuff, …
01:28 <luke-jr> Sysinfo for 'tsurukikun': Linux 2.6.19-gentoo running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ at 2202 MHz (4410 bogomips), HD: 214/227GB, RAM: 992/1003MB, 242 proc's, 5.11h up
01:28 <luke-jr> wtf
01:28 <luke-jr> How do I get normal exec w/ Konvi
01:28  * wrtlprnft doesn't know
01:29 <luke-jr> OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.19-gentoo/x86_64 - CPU: 1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (2202.844 MHz) - Processes: 247 - Uptime:  00:29:16 up  5:12,  3 users,  load average: 0.50, 1.61, 1.55 - Memory Usage: 1522MB/1003MB (151%)
01:29 <luke-jr> less swap than usual, maybe that's it
01:29 <wrtlprnft> Memory Usage: 1522MB/1003MB (151%)
01:29 <wrtlprnft> for sure
01:30 <wrtlprnft> can i know where you bought those memory sticks? they must be great!
01:30 <luke-jr> ever hear of swap?
01:30 <luke-jr> it's not great
01:30 <wrtlprnft> doesn't count.
01:30 <luke-jr> it's usage
01:30 <luke-jr> got 1 GB stick coming in the mail tho :)
01:30 <wrtlprnft> then you have to add the total amount of swap space to the maximum number as well.
01:31 <wrtlprnft> anyways
01:31 <wrtlprnft> #night
01:31 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
01:31 <luke-jr> nope
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03:21  * Ringwraith` dives into the GIANT VAGINA!
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04:01 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:01 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 15.8°F (8:54 PM CST on December 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: -0.4°F. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036 hPa (Rising). 
04:01 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
04:01 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 17.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Wind: NW at 13 mph (21 km/h).
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04:07 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Lucifer_arma ping
04:07 <ghableska> spidey, spidey
04:07 <spidey> er
04:07 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr ping
04:07 <spidey> ;x
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04:08 <ghableska> :P
04:08 <luke-jr> spidey: wtf u want
04:08 <spidey> wanna pickup on that save where you wussed out?
04:09 <luke-jr> before the /away?
04:11 <spidey> yea
04:14 <luke-jr> maybe after I eat
04:14 <spidey> you see what my nation will be like?
04:15 <spidey>  http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/63/goldmk3.gif
04:15 <spidey>  http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2833/productionrf9.gif
04:15 <spidey> that's when i continued after ya'll left
04:15 <spidey> 12 cities :)
04:28 <Van-hayes> spidey: was that the one I started in, or another huge map one?
04:29 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
04:29 <spidey> one you didn't start in
04:29 <ghableska> ;
05:20 <spidey> #dict flans
05:20 <armabot> spidey: No definition for "flans" could be found.
05:20 <ghableska> o.0
05:20 <ghableska> #google flans
05:20 <armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.10 seconds: Flans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flans>; Flan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flan>; Flans: <http://members.tripod.com/~tbf427/>; GourmetSleuth - Flan: <http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/flan.htm>; Flans LYRICS: <http://www.lyricsdownload.com/flans-lyrics.html>; Flans on Yahoo! Music: (1 more message)
05:20 <ghableska> ...
05:35 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/fortress/impact-0.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
05:35 <ghableska> #weather 50265
05:35 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 15.8°F (9:54 PM CST on December 02, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 1.4°F. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa. 
05:38 <luke-jr> .
05:39 <ghableska> .
05:54 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has quit ["Bye."]
05:57 <[NP]Tangent> .
05:57 <luke-jr> .
05:57 <[NP]Tangent> fu
05:57 <[NP]Tangent> you already had your turn
05:57 <[NP]Tangent> h4x
05:57  * luke-jr h4x [NP]Tangent
06:08 <Vanhayes> ,
06:28 <[NP]Tangent> @
06:38 <Vanhayes> #
06:38 <Vanhayes> #night
06:38 <Vanhayes> #ping
06:38 <Vanhayes> bah, good night
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06:38 <DrJoeTron> spidey defcon?
06:39 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
06:39 <armabot> pong
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06:54 <Durka> #lastseen psyko
06:54 <Durka> ...
06:54  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
06:54 <armabot> Durka: Psyko has last been seen on  Wild West - Wild Fortress 1 days 6 hours 0 minutes ago.
06:54 <Durka> #lastseen ~*sp*~psyko
06:55 <DrJoeTron> spidey!
06:55 <DrJoeTron> fucker
06:55 <DrJoeTron> defcon!
06:55  * Durka DrJoeTron 
06:55 <DrJoeTron> you always don't want to play when i do
06:55  * Durka DrJoeTron 
06:55  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
06:55  * Durka DrJoeTron 
06:55 <armabot> Durka: ~*SP*~PsYkO has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 2 days 14 hours 24 minutes ago.
06:57  * luke-jr h4x Durka
06:57 <Durka> ...
06:57 <DrJoeTron> well im done game raiding for a while
06:58 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
06:58 <spidey> DEFCON!??!?!?
06:58 <spidey> REALLY~?~?
06:58 <DrJoeTron> SI SENOR
06:58 <spidey> i'm hosting ;x
06:59 <spidey> or actually
06:59 <spidey> you host
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06:59 <DrJoeTron> ko
06:59 <DrJoeTron> but first
06:59 <DrJoeTron> let me finish my soup
06:59 <spidey> teamspeak server was causing my halo server to lag like hell =/
06:59 <DrJoeTron> arent you sure its just halo lagging to hell?
06:59 <DrJoeTron> because its a shitty port?
06:59 <spidey> ...
07:00 <spidey> shitty port?
07:00 <spidey> halo can't use port 2302, it's in use b something else :p
07:00 <DrJoeTron> no no
07:00 <spidey> 'er
07:00 <spidey> nevermind,. i know
07:00 <DrJoeTron> its a bad port
07:00 <spidey> xbox => pc
07:00 <DrJoeTron> :p
07:00 <spidey> halo2 should be good
07:00 <DrJoeTron> never played it?
07:00 <DrJoeTron> its really bad
07:00 <DrJoeTron> its worse than the first
07:00 <spidey> heh
07:01 <spidey> the pc version?
07:01 <spidey> it only runs on vista =p
07:01 <spidey> i'ma install vista on this box i'm gonna build ;x
07:01 <DrJoeTron> halo2 sucks period
07:01 <luke-jr> Vista sucks period
07:01 <spidey> luke-jr, stfu
07:01 <spidey> you ever used it?
07:01 <DrJoeTron> seconded
07:02 <DrJoeTron> its going to be shit
07:02 <luke-jr> don't need to :p
07:02 <spidey> either of you used it? ;x
07:02 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: it already is
07:02 <DrJoeTron> dont want to
07:02 <luke-jr> spidey: I know someone who has
07:02 <DrJoeTron> im fine with xp
07:02 <luke-jr> XP sucks too
07:02 <spidey> so you're going by someone elses word? :)
07:02 <luke-jr> no, that someone else likes it I think
07:03 <spidey> just like everyone says dell sucks, i've had this box 3 years and i've never had a problem with it
07:03 <spidey> maybe longer
07:03 <DrJoeTron> yeah you did
07:03 <DrJoeTron> you couldnt upgrade
07:03 <DrJoeTron> because it doesnt have an agp slot
07:03 <spidey> so?
07:03 <luke-jr> lol
07:04 <spidey> only thing i've added is 512ram and a 12gig hdd
07:04 <DrJoeTron> would be great if you added a video card
07:04 <spidey> onboard gfx runs all the games i play
07:05 <spidey> not really, don't need one
07:05 <DrJoeTron> but yeah
07:05 <DrJoeTron> i think the game raid is just about over
07:05 <DrJoeTron> i've had 5 accounts banned
07:05 <spidey> what game?
07:05 <spidey> lol
07:05 <DrJoeTron> and then changed my ip and mac address
07:06 <DrJoeTron> and proceeded toreign hell
07:06 <DrJoeTron> Virtual Laguna Beach
07:06 <spidey> what's that?
07:06 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2200198&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
07:06 <DrJoeTron> 2 thousand posts that were public
07:06 <DrJoeTron> then the MTV admins started monitoring the threads
07:07 <DrJoeTron> and who ever announced their name were banned
07:07 <DrJoeTron> so we had to movie it to the private game server forum
07:07 <DrJoeTron> quake looks better than this game
07:07 <luke-jr> hahaha
07:08 <DrJoeTron> and i got alot of 16 year old girls to go to www.lemonparty.org <---dont click this
07:08 <luke-jr> ..........
07:08 <spidey> he clicked it
07:08 <spidey> LOL
07:09 <spidey> ...
07:09 <spidey> don't ping me
07:09 <spidey> don't ping me
07:09 <spidey> don't ping me
07:09 <DrJoeTron> dont ping me
07:09 <spidey> <spidey> LOL
07:09 <spidey> --- Received a CTCP PING 1165126147 from luke-jr
07:09 <spidey> <spidey> ...
07:09 <spidey> <spidey> don't ping me
07:09 <spidey> --- Received a CTCP PING 1165126153 from luke-jr
07:09 <spidey> <spidey> don't ping me
07:09 <spidey> --- Received a CTCP PING 1165126154 from luke-jr
07:09 <spidey> actually
07:09 <spidey> keep doing it
07:09 <spidey> alot
07:09 <luke-jr> o.o
07:09 <DrJoeTron> hey i told you not to click
07:09 <spidey> then freenode will drop you :p
07:10 <DrJoeTron> actually i might play some more
07:10 <DrJoeTron> its a riot
07:10 <DrJoeTron> especially swince we're still kind of raiding the place
07:12 <spidey> http://img.waffleimages.com/9d55aa64803010d291e93d7d722dce8a750d27e5/there_geno3354_2006-11-29%2023-25-59.jpg
07:12 <spidey> hahaha
07:12 <luke-jr> civ?
07:12 <spidey> DrJoeTron, set the server up
07:12 <spidey> um
07:12 <spidey> luke-jr, if you find luci sure
07:12 <DrJoeTron> 1 sec
07:12 <spidey> otherwise i'ma play defcon ;x
07:14 <luke-jr> I wanna try civ
07:14 <luke-jr> but at size < players
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07:17 <spidey> ??
07:26 <DrJoeTron> hop on ts
07:26 <spidey> come to mine :p
07:27 <DrJoeTron> ip 
07:27 <spidey> i forgot all your info ;/
07:27 <spidey> 	68.114.141.224
07:27 <DrJoeTron> 66.29.95.48:8567 password is option
07:41 <[NP]Tangent> and now today's lesson
07:42 <[NP]Tangent> Fruity Loops is written with Delphi
07:42 <[NP]Tangent> Image-Line does not want to put the energy forth to make it cross-platform
07:42 <[NP]Tangent> NEXT TIME LEARN A REAL LANGUAGE
07:42 <[NP]Tangent> PLZ
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07:51 <spidey> and now todays' lesson
07:51 <spidey> luke-jr, r TEH sux
07:57 <luke-jr> u
08:30 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6468 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (4 files): dont need that hack anymore
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> delphi is a real language
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> a real point-and-click language
08:43 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: update wiki left-side menu
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> you do it
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> you have to edit every page
08:43 <luke-jr> ...
08:44 <luke-jr> bs
08:44 <luke-jr> #last --with wiki. --from luke-jr
08:44 <armabot> luke-jr: [00:51:45] <luke-jr> The <a href="http://armagetronad.net">Armagetron Advanced</a> team has recently added their own <a href="http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Gentoo_Portage_Overlay">Portage tree overlay</a> for the latest versions of their game. Currently, the overlay contains only beta-quality ebuilds for recent 0.2.8 releases and the 0.3.0 experimental release, but bug reports (<a (1 more message)
08:44 <luke-jr> #last --with MediaWiki --from luke-jr
08:44 <armabot> luke-jr: [23:53:44] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: plz update http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar
08:44 <luke-jr> just that one
08:44 <luke-jr> which I can't edit
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> ?  Update it with what?
08:46 <luke-jr> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Template:Sections&curid=1402&diff=16580&oldid=15172
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Wiki_Structuring_Project
08:52 <luke-jr> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Wiki_Structuring_Project&curid=2708&diff=16584&oldid=14741
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> Category:Getting Started - Basic guide to downloading, installing, and playing a local game, ending with a discussion of internet play. The Object of the Game needs to be factored into the top-level Getting Started page. Category name: Getting Started
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> granted that says "basic guide", and more detailed installation docs for specific platforms isn't really part of "basic"
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> I want to do one update of the sidebar that slings us into the new(er) organization.  The thing holding us back right now iirc is the navigation thing.
09:07 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6469 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/ (6 files): cleaner ECONF_SOURCE usage
09:28 <[NP]Tangent> Lucifer_arma, what do you mean Delphi is a real language?
09:28 <[NP]Tangent> if it's only designed for Winblows
09:28 <[NP]Tangent> it's not a real language
09:28 <[NP]Tangent> hell
09:28 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr 
09:28 <[NP]Tangent> even SPanish is better for programming with
09:28 <luke-jr> spidey: 
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, as long as you don't apply arbitrary non-technical requirements, Delphi is a real programming language
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: 
09:29 <spidey> luke-jr, Lucifer_arma  wanna finish that game?
09:29 <spidey> before the /awat
09:29 <spidey>  /away
09:29 <spidey> !
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> before whose away?  mine or luke's?
09:29 <spidey> lukes
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> I could, if luke wants to start it up, but I need to finish applying for a job real quick :)
09:30 <spidey> i have a splinter in my foot
09:30 <spidey> and it hurts
09:30 <spidey> everytime i walk :<
09:30 <luke-jr> and I want to go to bed rsn
09:30 <spidey> rsn?
09:30 <spidey> brb
09:32 <luke-jr> real soon now
09:32 <[NP]Tangent> k
09:32 <[NP]Tangent> Lucifer_arma, I'm reading the Delphi entry on wikipedia
09:32 <[NP]Tangent> and it sounds like the n00b way of doing things
09:33 <[NP]Tangent> real men use Notepad to code programs
09:33 <[NP]Tangent> or Kate
09:34 <luke-jr> or nano or vim or kwrite
09:34 <spidey> eh
09:34 <spidey> or wordpad ;x
09:34 <spidey> i use wordpad for everything
09:34 <spidey> ;x
09:34 <luke-jr> wtf
09:35 <luke-jr> who uses wordpad
09:35 <spidey> ftw
09:35 <spidey> me
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> real men use Programmer's Notepad for everything in Windows, and Dave's Stupid Text Editor in Linux
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> which makes me, and only me, a real man
09:35 <spidey> i think you're dreaming again
09:35 <spidey> ;x
09:36 <[NP]Tangent> real men program on their TI-83 in English class
09:36 <[NP]Tangent> <-- programmed a sword fighting game during sophomore English
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> no, those aren't real men, those are little geeks
09:36 <spidey> haha
09:36 <[NP]Tangent> yeah
09:36 <[NP]Tangent> little geeks who have a teacher who's really annoying and talks about nothing for an hour
09:37 <[NP]Tangent> anyways
09:37 <[NP]Tangent> if you're going to make a good program
09:37 <[NP]Tangent> why make it in Delphi?
09:37 <[NP]Tangent> why not make it something that everyone might be able to use?
09:37 <spidey> ..
09:38 <[NP]Tangent> I'm surprised Fruity Loops isn't available for Mac
09:42 <Lucifer_arma> who needs fruity loops when you've got Hydrogen?
09:43 <spidey> who needs hydrogen when you got oxygen
09:45 <[NP]Tangent> Lucifer_arma, Hydrogen's a drum machine thingy
09:45 <[NP]Tangent> and it doesn't seem to like my laptop very much
09:45 <[NP]Tangent> I like LMMS
09:45 <[NP]Tangent> but it's quite unstable
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, it is quite unstable :/
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> I dont' like drum sequencers anyway
09:46 <[NP]Tangent> click click click OH IT'S WONDERFUL! click click CRASH!
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> I don't like how they work
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> too primitive, they deal with making basic patterns and stringing them together into a song
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want to do that.  I want to say "This is a verse, play <this beat>, phrases are 8 bars, verse has 8 phrases"
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> then the program should pick the patterns it plays and put in its own fills, providing a way for me to customize the fills
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> I don't like having to compose every single pattern, and even making a pattern library is just a hack
09:47 <Lucifer_arma> what I want is a song development IDE
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> I want to later attach recordings of phrases
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> have them mix with the drums and other instruments, so I can focus on composing the whole song
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> then later render it all to a file that I can use to rehearse
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> and after that, I can record it all from the ground up
09:49 <luke-jr> ...
09:49 <[NP]Tangent> basically, my plan is just to buy a Fantom Xa synth
09:49 <[NP]Tangent> you can sequence a bunch of stuff on that, then when you need more space, dump the MIDI data to your pc
09:51 <spidey> i really should clean my room
09:51 <spidey> but that means i have to take my network down, and move all of this shit =/
09:51 <spidey> and there's alot of stuff to move >.>
09:54 <spidey> #cnn 38256
09:54 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 31.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Wind: N at 5 mph (8 km/h).
09:54 <spidey> always below freezing >.>
09:56 <spidey> #g freezing in C
09:56 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:57 <luke-jr> #g 32 F in C
09:57 <armabot> luke-jr: 32 degrees Fahrenheit = 0 degrees Celsius
09:57 <luke-jr> :p
09:57 <spidey> i know..
09:58 <luke-jr> #g 0 C in K
09:58 <armabot> luke-jr: 0 degrees Celsius = 273.15 kelvin
09:58 <spidey> #g 100000 k in f
09:58 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:58 <luke-jr> #g 100000 K in F
09:58 <spidey> #g 100000 K in F
09:58 <armabot> luke-jr: 100,000 kelvin = 179,540.33 degrees Fahrenheit
09:58 <armabot> spidey: 100,000 kelvin = 179,540.33 degrees Fahrenheit
09:59 <spidey> o.o
09:59 <spidey> #g 1 K in F
09:59 <armabot> spidey: 1 kelvin = -457.87 degrees Fahrenheit
09:59 <spidey> wow
09:59 <spidey> o.O
09:59 <luke-jr> #g 0 K in F
09:59 <armabot> luke-jr: 0 kelvin = -459.67 degrees Fahrenheit
09:59 <luke-jr> spidey: you don't understand kelvin, do you?
09:59 <spidey> no
09:59 <spidey> ;x
09:59 <luke-jr> 0 K is the coldest temperature physically possible
09:59 <luke-jr> it is the absolute absense of heat
10:00 <luke-jr> aka absolute zero
10:00 <luke-jr> it uses the same scale as Celcius though
10:00 <luke-jr> so
10:00 <luke-jr> #g 1 K in C
10:00 <armabot> luke-jr: 1 kelvin = -272.15 degrees Celsius
10:00 <luke-jr> #g 101 K in C
10:00 <armabot> luke-jr: 101 kelvin = -172.15 degrees Celsius
10:00 <spidey> hm
10:01 <spidey> #g -1 K in F
10:01 <luke-jr> basically, -1 K is impossible
10:01 <armabot> spidey: (-1) kelvin = -461.47 degrees Fahrenheit
10:01 <spidey> lol
10:01 <luke-jr> Hexadecimal temperature also has 0 at absolute zero
10:01 <luke-jr> but it has 0x100 at water boiling :p
10:02 <luke-jr> #g 100 C in K
10:02 <armabot> luke-jr: 100 degrees Celsius = 373.15 kelvin
10:02 <luke-jr> so 373.15 K is 0x100 hextemp
10:02 <luke-jr> approx 1.4575 K per hextemp
10:03 <luke-jr> err, maybe that's backward
10:03 <luke-jr> 1.4575 hextemp per K?
10:03 <luke-jr> yeah
10:03 <luke-jr> #g 31 C to K
10:03 <armabot> luke-jr: 31 degrees Celsius = 304.15 kelvin
10:04 <luke-jr> so the temperature for you is 0xD1
10:04 <luke-jr> #cnn 64150
10:04 <armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in Gladstone, MO is 21.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Wind: N at 8 mph (13 km/h).
10:04 <spidey> ...
10:04 <luke-jr> #g 21 F in K
10:04 <spidey> no
10:04 <armabot> luke-jr: 21 degrees Fahrenheit = 267.038889 kelvin
10:04 <spidey> because that's celsius :p
10:04 <spidey> #g 31 F in L
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
10:04 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
10:04 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 39.2°F (3:03 AM CST on December 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Rising). 
10:04 <spidey> #g 31 F in K
10:04 <armabot> spidey: 31 degrees Fahrenheit = 272.594444 kelvin
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> my wife fixed our heater
10:05 <luke-jr> 0xB7 here
10:05 <luke-jr> 0xBB for spidey
10:06 <luke-jr> #g 39.2 F in K
10:07 <armabot> luke-jr: 39.2 degrees Fahrenheit = 277.15 kelvin
10:07 <luke-jr> 0xBE for Luci
10:07 <spidey> i want a turkey
10:08 <luke-jr> ...
10:08 <spidey> ...
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10:52 <wrtlprnft> #g 273.15 K in C
10:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 273.15 kelvin = 0 degrees Celsius
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15:53 <Canada> Hello guys
15:54 <Canada> [URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5931/tmmonkxs7.png[/IMG][/URL]
15:54 <Canada> oops 
15:55 <Canada> uhmm what time est is the ladle? 2:30?
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15:56 <madmax|pt> hello
15:57 <wrtlprnft> hi
15:59 <wrtlprnft> right now it's 15:00 GMT
16:00 <wrtlprnft> our first battle will be at 20:15 GMT
16:00 <wrtlprnft> so it's in 5 hours 15 minutes
16:01 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I should hurry up and do the stuff to the wiki I'd intended to do before the ladle starts?
16:02 <wrtlprnft> either that or wait until it's over :P
16:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's stuff that shouldn't affect whether or not the machine's running
16:04 <Lucifer_arma> I need to fix the reiser partitions on it, and I want to fix them by turning them into ext3 again
16:04 <wrtlprnft> :(
16:05 <wrtlprnft> ext sucks.
16:05 <Lucifer_arma> let's see, mtab is empty because the power went out and reiser couldn't handle it
16:05 <Lucifer_arma> ext3 can handle it
16:05 <Lucifer_arma> which one sucks again?
16:05 <madmax|pt> talking about filesystems ... glup
16:06  * madmax|pt has a simple one to do
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> so, I'm going with the filesystem I *know* can recover from a power outage, rather than the one that says it can, but doesn't actually do it
16:06 <wrtlprnft> mine always did
16:06 <wrtlprnft> and i have a notebook that runs out of power once in a while
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> well mine didn't, mine's borked
16:09 <wrtlprnft> maybe it's not reiser's fault :P
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16:15 <[dlh]> hmm, my wireless starting to act up.
16:15 <[dlh]> is starting*
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16:17 <wrtlprnft> guess it acted up again :P
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16:49 <Lucifer_arma> why would mtab be empty?
16:52 <wrtlprnft> dunno
16:52 <wrtlprnft> it is if you chroot…
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17:14 <Lucifer_arma> aha, figured it out
17:14 <Lucifer_arma> and, heh, it wasn't the filesystem's problem
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17:21 <ghableska> #weather 50265
17:21 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 12.2°F (9:54 AM CST on December 03, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: -5.8°F. Pressure: 30.67 in 1038 hPa. 
17:21 <Canada> hey ghab
17:21 <Canada> #weather Washington DC
17:21 <armabot> Canada: The current temperature in Washington, District of Columbia is 41.0°F (10:52 AM EST on December 03, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa. 
17:22 <Canada> fix bug please its 11:22, not 10:52
17:22 <Canada> times are skrewed
17:22 <Canada> #weather new york new york
17:22 <armabot> Canada: The current temperature in Central Park, New York is 42.8°F (10:51 AM EST on December 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa. 
17:25 <Lucifer_arma> saying "please" doesn't make something polite
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17:30 <Durka> #hello
17:30 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: [The French Riviera is] a sunny place for shady people. || -- Somerset Maugham
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17:36 <Canada> ELLO 
17:36 <Canada> SO whens the ladle?
17:36 <Canada> tell me~~~
17:36 <Canada> or il kill you
17:36 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/nano/nano_sumo-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
17:38 <Durka> w00t
17:38 <Lucifer_arma> fuck off
17:38 <Durka> i had some problems with that map on the nano server...now everything is fixed :D
17:39  * Durka Lucifer_arma
17:39 <Canada> lucifer is a meanie person, dont listen to crickets in meanie peoples heads
17:41 <ghableska> #armaservers
17:41 <armabot> ghableska: Norm's Place (11 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (10 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (4 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (4 players) || (1 more message)
17:42 <[NP]Tangent> Canada, just because Lucifer_arma is smarter than you are, doesn't mean you have to insult him
17:42 <Canada> i dont even know who the hell you are
17:43 <[NP]Tangent> good
17:43 <[NP]Tangent> I don't want you to know who I am
17:43 <[NP]Tangent> now go bother someone else
17:44 <Durka> i barely even know who tangent is :)
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17:47 <Durka> hi sticky
17:47 <Durka> #hello _Sticky_
17:47 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Q: What do little WASPs want to be when they grow up? || A: The very best person they can possibly be.
17:47 <Durka> lol
17:48 <[NP]Tangent> dudeman
17:48 <[NP]Tangent> I got the weirdest fortune in a fortune cookie
17:48 <[NP]Tangent> "The onion you are eating is someone else's water lilly."
17:48 <ghableska> o.0
17:49 <[NP]Tangent> what the fuck is that supposed to mean, anyways?
17:49 <[NP]Tangent> seriously
17:49 <ghableska> one man's trash is another man's treasure?
17:49 <madmax|pt> this is fun
17:49 <[NP]Tangent> but I like onions
17:50 <_Sticky_> hay
17:50 <ghableska> ok, one man's treasure is another man's treasure
17:51 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6470 /private/z-man/clio/ (20 files):
17:51 <armabot> armagetronad: Added possibility to inject io code into wrapped classes.
17:51 <armabot> armagetronad: Used it to make return by non-const reference transparent: except for a set() method that assigns to the referenced value, the returned object behaves like a regular object.
17:52 <Lucifer_arma> he's just mad because I expect him to behave like any other civilized person, but as a regular generic American, he can't, and he knows it
17:53 <ghableska> XD
17:53 <Lucifer_arma> wow, this backup job has been running a long time
17:53 <[NP]Tangent> generic Americans aren't civilized?
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> so, for future reference, if your power goes out and you use say a USB drive that has its own power source, and you don't turn it back on with your server,
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> your root partition will fill up next time your backup script runs
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> no, generic Americans aren't civilized
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> they're very rude and uncouth people
17:55 <[NP]Tangent> am I rude and uncouth?
17:55 <ghableska> heh
17:55 <ghableska> are you? :P
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> are you a generic American?
17:55 <[NP]Tangent> well, I'm American, but when I'm done with school I'm getting my ass out of here
17:56 <[NP]Tangent> I can't deal with people here
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> are they rude and uncouth?
17:56 <[NP]Tangent> yes
17:56 <[NP]Tangent> and stupid
17:56 <[NP]Tangent> I work at a fast food restaurant
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> so am I right, or am I not right?  :)
17:56 <[NP]Tangent> I have actually gotten this question
17:57 <ghableska> [NP]Tangent: where is here?
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> man, the worst people go to fast food places
17:57 <[NP]Tangent> "Why does your low carb burger have no bun?"
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> I used to work at a Sonic that has 4 lanes for ordering, but only one window
17:57 <[NP]Tangent> Lucifer_arma, we get either really smart people, or really stupid people
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> every half hour or so you'd get the person who felt all self-important and wouldn't wait to be called to drive up
17:57 <[NP]Tangent> or really arrogant people.
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> he'd cut off everyone in his hurry to get his food
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> but his food took 3-5 minutes to cook, so people whose orders were ready had to wait for the ass to get out of the way
17:58 <[NP]Tangent> yeah, people here don't have room to do that
17:58 <[NP]Tangent> the last time I saw a guy in a hurry, he almost drove his car into the wall
17:59 <[NP]Tangent> he complained that our manager was an idiot
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> for putting the wall there?
17:59 <[NP]Tangent> no, for putting his food in one bag rather than fifteen
17:59 <[NP]Tangent> you don't need one bag for each item of food
17:59 <[NP]Tangent> the fries don't weigh enough to crush the sandwiches, that's why they go on top!
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> what, he wanted his tater tots individually wrapped?
18:00 <[NP]Tangent> Lucifer_arma, pretty much
18:01 <[dlh]> he was in a hurry, but had time to complain?
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> we had this lady come in one time and complain that her hamburger didn't have any meat on it
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> we all got a good laugh about it.  I mean, what burger place serves a hamburger without any meat?
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> so the manager brought it back and there wasn't a meat patty on it!
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> there was grease, and the grill booger that manages to be on the bottom of every meat patty
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> so we decided she ate it or fed it to her dog or something and was just freeloading
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> an hour later when I went to sweep under the bread rack, there was an unexplained meat patty laying there...
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18:03 <Lucifer_arma> apparently the grill boy got so excited putting that meat patty on there that he failed to grip it properly with the top bun, jerked the spatula out, and flung it behind him
18:10 <Canada> lol
18:30 <Canada> hello mr. cricket says hi
18:32 <_Sticky_> hay
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18:36 <Durka> #hello
18:37 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Q: What is the difference between a duck? || A: One leg is both the same.
18:37  * pavelo doesnt get it
18:40 <Durka> #armaservers
18:40 <armabot> Durka: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
18:40 <Durka> awwwwwwww
18:40 <Durka> WRTL!!!!!
18:40 <Durka> #armaservers
18:41 <armabot> Durka: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
18:41 <Durka> :(|
18:41 <_Sticky_> heh
18:42 <Lucifer_arma> why does postfix block courier?
18:42 <wrtlprnft> Durka: 
18:42 <wrtlprnft> Durka: blame guru3, he's running that feed
18:42 <wrtlprnft> :P
18:42 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-212-209-112.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)]
18:43  * Lucifer_arma is a prick
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> emerge -C canada
18:45  * Durka Lucifer_arma
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> you want me to start my script again, Durka?
18:46 <Durka> actually i kinda do :)
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> sicko
18:55 <_Sticky_> #ar,aservers
18:56 <_Sticky_> #armaservers
18:56 <armabot> _Sticky_: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Norm's Place (11 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (9 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (7 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (5 players) || (1 more message)
19:00 -!- Pez [n=5298247f@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
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19:04 <_Sticky_> is there a commant to locate a player
19:05 <madmax|pt> #lastseen madmax
19:05 <armabot> madmax|pt: madmax has last been seen on -=|LoD|=- Sumo Temporary Server 0 days 4 hours 13 minutes ago.
19:05 <_Sticky_> ahh nice
19:05 <_Sticky_> #lastseen 2020
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen Lucifer
19:05 <_Sticky_> ty
19:05 <armabot> _Sticky_: 2020 has last been seen on wrtlprnft's ladle/tournament fortress 0 days 21 hours 17 minutes ago.
19:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: CTF - Lucifer has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 6 hours 50 minutes ago.
19:05 <madmax|pt> #seen 2020
19:05 <Lucifer_arma> Imposter!
19:05 <armabot> madmax|pt: I have not seen 2020.
19:06  * Lucifer_arma hasn't played arma in a couple of months
19:06 <madmax|pt> "CTF - Lucifer" oO
19:06 <_Sticky_> hmm now all we need is an alert system when they do log into a server
19:06 <Lucifer_arma> it's obviously a fake since I'd never be a part of a clan
19:07 <_Sticky_> #help
19:07 <armabot> _Sticky_: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
19:08 <_Sticky_> what powers that bot
19:08 <Lucifer_arma> electricity?
19:09 <_Sticky_> :-P
19:09  * _Sticky_ slaps Lucifer_arma around a bit with a large trout
19:09  * Lucifer_arma suggests _Sticky_ (hi there!) ask a more meaningful question
19:10 <_Sticky_> ok...what program is running that bot
19:11 <Canada> hey sticky
19:11 <_Sticky_> hay
19:12 <Canada> how are you
19:12 <_Sticky_> not bad...you?
19:12 <Canada> fine
19:13 <_Sticky_> know where 2020 is??
19:13 <Canada> he doesnt go on irc chat
19:14 <_Sticky_> im sure hes been here before
19:14 <Canada> trust me, he wont miss the ladle, he just doesnt come an hour early
19:14 <Canada> well he has
19:14 <Canada>  but he only comes on when he has to
19:15 <Canada> like when the leaders of the teams had to come to irc chat
19:15 <_Sticky_> ahh
19:15 <Canada> since hes leader of (TM)... 
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19:15 <Durka> wheres zman
19:15 <Canada> hey durka
19:16 <Durka> hi
19:16 <Canada> he just kicks noobs from the server
19:16 <Canada> he sucks at armagetron... lol
19:16 <Canada> the sad thing is he sucks at it and he made armagetron
19:16 <Durka> canada: join the ladle room
19:16 <_Sticky_> i did quite like the idea of some sort of voice comms system for the ladel...would certainly aid organisation too.  typing lag seems to cause alot of problems while organising
19:16 <Canada> how
19:16 <Durka> type: /join #arma-ladle
19:17 <Durka> assuming ur using my applet
19:17 <_Sticky_> team leaders only??
19:17 <Durka> just join
19:17 <Canada> im using someone elses
19:17 <Durka> mine
19:17 <Canada> wait
19:17 <Canada> yeah
19:17 <Durka> lol
19:27 -!- Nixda502 [n=d5d9c2b0@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
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19:28 <i2020> hey all
19:28 <i2020> could be a good tournament today
19:28 <pavelo> hi 2020
19:28 <i2020> hi pav, how are you?
19:29 <pavelo> its fine
19:29 <pavelo> most of the others are on arma-ladle
19:30 <pavelo> come there
19:32 <Canada> hey guys
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19:36 <_Sticky_> hay
19:36 <Legit> hey
19:36 <_Sticky_> most people in arma-ladle
19:37 <Durka> hi
19:38 <_Sticky_> bonjour
19:38 <Durka> legit: type /join #arma-ladle
19:43 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-36-178-146.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #Armagetron
19:44 <DrJoeTron> fucking bf2
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19:52 -!- |TuI| is now known as TuI
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19:56 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
19:56 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 42.4°F (12:56 PM CST on December 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.68 in 1038.8 hPa. 
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19:58 <DrJoeTron> you bastard and your warmness
19:58 <DrJoeTron> #weather 60056
19:58 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Chicago Palwaukee, Illinois is 15.8°F (12:52 PM CST on December 03, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.50 in 1033 hPa. 
19:59 -!- Arma67 [n=Arma67@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2k1-229.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #armagetron
19:59 <DrJoeTron> i mean come on
19:59 -!- Arma67 is now known as tuiHash
19:59 <gumdropsgood> that's cold
19:59 <tuiHash> goody
19:59 <gumdropsgood> wtf you want
19:59 <tuiHash> type /join #tui-chat
19:59 -!- Arma33 [n=Arma33@S010600045acfc6b0.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #armagetron
19:59 <DrJoeTron> mother of god
20:00 -!- Arma33 is now known as Gh
20:00 <DrJoeTron> this game isn't  THAT popular
20:00 -!- Durka [n=Arma61@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2k1-229.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has quit ["Bye!"]
20:00 <DrJoeTron> half of these people must be rapists
20:00 -!- tuiHash is now known as Durka
20:00 -!- Gh is now known as Beans
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20:01 <Durka> hi van
20:01 <Vanhayes> hello
20:01 <madmax|pt> what the
20:01 <madmax|pt> all these lines ><
20:01 <madmax|pt> hi van
20:01 <DrJoeTron> i know!
20:01 <DrJoeTron> its not even people talking
20:01 <DrJoeTron> its just people logging in for the sake of
20:02 <Durka> we are crazy
20:02 <gumdropsgood> they are doing it just to bother you
20:02 <madmax|pt> I bet
20:02 -!- Pez [n=5298247f@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC"]
20:03 <DrJoeTron> holy fuck
20:03 <DrJoeTron> you CAN learn ANYTHING on the internet
20:03 <DrJoeTron> http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-with-Having-a-Big-Butt-as-a-12-Year-Old
20:04 <madmax|pt> that sounds ... odd
20:04 <madmax|pt> "Tips: Love yourself!"
20:05 -!- gumdropsgood [n=TuI73@h191.167.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has quit ["Bye!"]
20:05 <madmax|pt> how do you find these things DrJoeTron ?
20:05 -!- TuI22 [n=TuI22@h191.167.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has joined #armagetron
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20:06 -!- gumdropsgood [n=TuI22@h191.167.40.69.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Client Quit]
20:06 <Durka> lol
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20:08 <Canada> drjoetron, why do you hate me?
20:08 -!- Vanhayes1 [n=lamb--ch@stjhnbsu83w-156034244113.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
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20:08 -!- Vanhayes1 is now known as Vanhayes
20:08 <Beans> because you are canadian and that is all ameriacns do is blame canada
20:09 <Vanhayes> he isnt canadian
20:09 <Beans> lol then why is his name Canada
20:09 <Vanhayes> Cause he likes it I think
20:09 <Durka> lol
20:09 <luke-jr> woohoo I'm +u
20:09 <luke-jr> :p
20:10 <Beans> wow yellow writing is really annoying
20:10 <luke-jr> it's gold
20:10 <luke-jr> foo
20:10 <Durka> blue!
20:10 <Vanhayes> looks yellow
20:10 <madmax|pt> whats u?
20:11 <Canada> im not canadian
20:11 <Beans> wow way to be an hour behind
20:11 <DrJoeTron> hey you know whats great?
20:11 <Beans> now im a flamer
20:11 <DrJoeTron> not typing in color and closet homophobics?
20:11 <Beans> are you trying to come out of the closet Joe?
20:12 <DrJoeTron> i quite the queer, and half massive orgies with 50 year olds
20:12 <DrJoeTron> check out my site
20:12 <DrJoeTron> www.lemonparty.org
20:12 <Beans> I'm not going to that
20:12 <DrJoeTron> your call
20:13 <DrJoeTron> Hi Canada, thats some hello you have for me
20:13 -!- Durka is now known as testestest
20:13 -!- testestest is now known as Durka
20:13 <Durka> sry
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20:14 <Beans> damn
20:14 <Durka> lol
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20:15 <DrJoeTron> Canada i don't hate you, i just rip into you when you say something incredibly unintelligent :D
20:15 -!- Canada is now known as [
20:15 <Beans> which is almost everytime you type somthing
20:15 <DrJoeTron> lately?
20:15 <DrJoeTron> yup!
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20:15 <wrtlprnft> Beans: stfu w/ your colors
20:15 -!- Sash1 [n=Sasha@87.240.13.48] has joined #armagetron
20:15 <Beans> do i gotta?
20:16 <DrJoeTron> yeah
20:16 <DrJoeTron> you do
20:16 -!- [ is now known as [TM]
20:16 <Beans> lol ok
20:16 <DrJoeTron> can ya buddy?
20:16 <Sash1> hi all
20:16 -!- G5_Ger [n=G5_Ger@dslb-084-056-159-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
20:16 <Beans> their now im black aagain
20:16 -!- [TM] is now known as [TM]Canada
20:16 <DrJoeTron> thanks
20:16 <Sash1> What about Ladle 6?
20:16 -!- Arma71 [n=Arma71@dslb-084-056-159-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #armagetron
20:16 <Sash1> Only oops vs. TuIO in quarter?
20:16 <Durka> ya
20:16 -!- Arma71 is now known as G5
20:17 <Sash1> ok
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20:18 <DrJoeTron> man i gotta learn how to wake up earklier
20:18 <DrJoeTron> and how to type.
20:18 -!- Vanhayes [n=lamb--ch@stjhnbsu83w-156034245053.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
20:18 <[TM]Canada> hello van
20:18 <Vanhayes> hi
20:19 <wrtlprnft> hi
20:19 <G5_Ger> Hi
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20:20 <wrtlprnft> o_O
20:20 <DrJoeTron> hypothetical question boys
20:20 <DrJoeTron> what would you rather have
20:20 <gumdropsgood> immortality
20:21 <DrJoeTron> flight: up 200MPH and if you flight tou high you pass out and plummit to your death.
20:21 <DrJoeTron> invisibility but your clothes aren't, its just you.
20:22 <gumdropsgood> taht's good
20:22 <gumdropsgood> i'd take that
20:22 <DrJoeTron> underwater breathing
20:22 <gumdropsgood> you can just go naked everywhere
20:22 <DrJoeTron> with pressure resistance
20:22 <DrJoeTron> yeah your right
20:22 <DrJoeTron> ok
20:22 <madmax|pt> i always wanted subzero's powers
20:22 <madmax|pt> those would be nice
20:22 <DrJoeTron> if you pick invisibile you become diagnosed with lymphoma
20:22 <gumdropsgood> i thought raiden was really better
20:23 <gumdropsgood> hodgkin's or non hodgkin's?
20:23 <DrJoeTron> raiden was way to fucking over powered
20:23 <DrJoeTron> so he was amazing
20:23 <gumdropsgood> exactly, joe
20:23 <DrJoeTron> and i used h im every chance i got
20:23 <DrJoeTron> but my god
20:23 <madmax|pt> aw, ice is nice
20:23 <DrJoeTron> he was the cheapest character
20:23 <DrJoeTron> cheaper tahn god dam sector
20:24  * DrJoeTron imma shoot missiles hurrr!!!
20:24 <DrJoeTron> kabal was a creep too
20:25 <madmax|pt> Rain had that 'lightning from above' power that was nice too
20:25 -!- Beans [n=Arma33@S010600045acfc6b0.vn.shawcable.net] has quit ["Bye!"]
20:25 <DrJoeTron> shit man
20:25 <DrJoeTron> i wanna get a damn wii
20:26 <DrJoeTron> they added Ristar to the virtual console :/
20:27 -!- _Sticky_ is now known as [TM]Stivky
20:27 -!- [TM]Stivky is now known as [TM]Sticky
20:27 <DrJoeTron> TM?
20:28 <DrJoeTron> that better be The Monsters.
20:28 <DrJoeTron> because that would be awesome
20:28 <DrJoeTron> or is it something incredibly lame
20:32 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
20:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Norm's Place (11 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || Z-Man's Tournament Fortress (8 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (8 players) || Legendary Clan Server ^}LC}< (7 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (7 players) || (1 more message)
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20:35 <[TM]Sticky> #serverinfo Z-Man's
20:35 <armabot> [TM]Sticky: Z-Man's Tournament Fortress: Players (12/32): G5, Recorder, TUI|SeBoL158, TuI~ Rico, TuI~LacrYmosa, TµÎ~ X ~, TµÎ«Ghß	°¯Hay-L, Z-Man, ~tui~ ketamine, ¦SuI¦}¦Gash¦, °¯AshitakA, °°qedice
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20:54 <mkzelda> is there some sort of tourney today?
20:54 <Vanhayes> ladle
20:55 <Vanhayes> 6th one i think
20:55 <mkzelda> already start?
20:55 -!- eggcozy [n=46269f2a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
20:55 <eggcozy> ahoy
20:55 <madmax|pt> hello
20:55 <mkzelda> im actually available today
20:55 <eggcozy> you there maz?
20:55 <pavelo> hi egg
20:55 <MaZuffeR> yep
20:56 <eggcozy> hya, whats the word?
20:56 <eggcozy> we playing?
20:56 <MaZuffeR> i'm trying to find infamous and newbie, we can start after that
20:56 <pavelo> eggcozy: come to wrtl's tournament server
20:56 <eggcozy> ok
20:57 <pavelo> we are gathering there
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20:59 <mkzelda> >:/ my tron will only do either 320x240 or 2560x1024
20:59 <mkzelda> fullscreen
21:00 <z-man> oops TUI 0:1
21:00 <z-man> it's 5 vs 7 players right now.
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21:01 <madmax|pt> who's the recorder?
21:01 <z-man> me
21:01 <z-man> I hope I find time to actually post the recording this time :)
21:03 <luke-jr> mkzelda: erm
21:04 <luke-jr> mkzelda: MergedFB?
21:07 <ghableska> #armaservers
21:07 <armabot> ghableska: Z-Man's Tournament Fortress (15 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (14 players) || wrtlprnft's ladle/tournament fortress (12 players) || Norm's Place (11 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (7 players) || Strawberry Fields (7 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (6 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (6 players) || -=}ID< (1 more message)
21:07 <ghableska> #serverdetails Z-Man
21:07 <armabot> ghableska: Z-Man's Tournament Fortress: Players (15/16): dookatee |DpG|, Recorder, TUI|SeBoL158, TuI~ Rico, Tµi~ßtd, TµÍ ~ X ~, TµÍ¬Fhß, Z-Man, ~tui~ ketamine, ¦TuI¦~¦Hash¦	Tu, °¯AshitakA, °¯redice, °¯Santa, °°F5, °°Gay-Lin
21:07 <ghableska> #serverdetails wrtl
21:07 <armabot> ghableska: wrtlprnft's ladle/tournament fortress: Players (14/32): (TM) Hyphy Leo, Kamakazi, nemostultae??, newbÎd/\??, Vanhayes, [??] eggcozy, [??] pavelo, [??]MaZuffeR, [??]Pez, [TM] Legit, [TM] one, [TM] wrtlprnft, [TM] ¢`nada, [TM]Sticky
21:10 <z-man> TUI won.
21:17 <wrtlprnft> hmm
21:18 <wrtlprnft> tui vs ?? should be interesting then
21:18 <ghableska> ?
21:26 <wrtlprnft> why the f** is it lagging? I don't get it
21:28 <luke-jr> your server?
21:28 <luke-jr> lagging or spontaneous lag?
21:28 <wrtlprnft> well, high pings
21:28 <wrtlprnft> #serverinfo chico
21:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (5/8): Arc, BMW Dude, ct|loops, Jamie, meriton
21:28 <wrtlprnft> #serverinfo ess caf
21:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: No online players.
21:29 <luke-jr> so just regular latency
21:30 <z-man> TUI SP 1:0
21:30 <madmax|pt> how many SPs?
21:31 <z-man> 9
21:32 <wrtlprnft> #serverinfo z-man
21:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Z-Man's Tournament Fortress, Tornament going on.: Players (19/32): emphasis, Recorder, TuI~ Rico, TuI~dookatee, TuI~LacrYmosa, Tµh~ßud, TµÍ ~ X ~, TµÍ¬Fhß, Z-Man, ~*SP*~ D3M0N, ~*SP*~<y<lo, ~*SP*~joda.bot, ~*SP*~Oblivion, ~*SP*~oO.k3nNy, ~*SP*~Sasha, ~*SP*~Speed, ~*SP*~viper~, ~tui~ ketamine, ¦TuI¦~¦Hash¦	~*
21:35 <wrtlprnft> ?? 1 : 0 TM
21:35 <ghableska> #weather 50265
21:35 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 17.6°F (1:54 PM CST on December 03, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 1.4°F. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036 hPa. 
21:41 <z-man> TUI 2:0 SP
21:41 <wrtlprnft> haha
21:41 <wrtlprnft> so it will be tui vs ??
21:41 <z-man> That's good, 20 minutes of potty break.
21:42 <z-man> looks like it
21:43 <z-man> awww noooo! Destroyed the recording :(
21:43 <wrtlprnft> so_O
21:43 <ghableska> O_O
21:43 <luke-jr> z-man: you're fired
21:43 <z-man> only of the semi, but still
21:43 <luke-jr> :p
21:44 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: who did TM lose to?
21:44 <luke-jr> z-man: can you review an announcement before I send it?
21:44 <wrtlprnft> well
21:44 <wrtlprnft> we're about to lose to ??
21:44 <z-man> better post the quarter before I destroy that, too
21:44 <ghableska> ah
21:44 <luke-jr> z-man: chattr +i *?
21:44 <z-man> luke-jr: why don't you post it into devstaff only?
21:44 <wrtlprnft> ok
21:44 <wrtlprnft> now ?? won officially
21:45 <wrtlprnft> 2:0
21:45 <ghableska> ooooh
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21:46 <Canada> Damn we lost
21:46 <wrtlprnft> I really want to know what's wrong with my server...
21:46 <luke-jr> z-man: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=116561#116561
21:46 <Canada> :(
21:46 <ghableska> http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/tg2/tech_preview.shtml <-- about time :)
21:47 <Canada> we prolly lost cause one was lagging so much
21:47 <wrtlprnft> nah
21:47 <wrtlprnft> we lost because we were unorganized
21:47 <wrtlprnft> and i was tired
21:47 <Vanhayes> ok got the recording of SS vs TM, looks alot better than I thought it would
21:47 <Canada> can you post it?
21:47 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: post it
21:47 <Vanhayes> will do
21:47 <Canada> who were you spectatoring?
21:48 <wrtlprnft> mail it to me if it's too big
21:48 <Canada> like following
21:48  * wrtlprnft @ /me . de
21:48 <Canada> mm
21:48 <Canada> can you mail it to me toragwanderer@yahoo.com
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21:49 <Canada> im just sad we lost :(
21:49 <Canada> :,(
21:50 <wrtlprnft> that was forseeable
21:50 <Canada> yeah
21:51 <Canada> van, is it to big to post?
21:51 <Canada> brb
21:51 <Vanhayes> should I post it in the ladle thread or a new one?
21:51 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: probably too big to post?
21:51 <Vanhayes> its 2.1 MB I think that will fit
21:51 <wrtlprnft> post it on the wiki?
21:52 <Canada> yeah cause i really want to watch it
21:52 <Canada>  how long is it
21:53 <Vanhayes> as long as the match
21:53 <Canada> how long was it
21:53 <Canada> i wasnt paying attention
21:53 <Canada> to the time
21:53 <Vanhayes> I havent played threw the whole thing yet, but id say 20-30 minutes
21:53 <Vanhayes> maybe more
21:54 <Canada> van, who did you record as watching when wrtl died
21:54 <Vanhayes> I watched the middles or close to then switched to whichever def was being attacked
21:54 <Canada> mm
21:55 <Canada> did you get any of me ? lol
21:55 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: grr, it's best if you don't press any keys, but w/e
21:55 <wrtlprnft> you *can* use the turn keys to switch while playing back
21:55 <Vanhayes> oh ya
21:55 <Vanhayes> heh opps
21:55 <Legit> do u hsot that server we was n wrtl?
21:55 <Canada> Van, you get any stuff of me? cause i want to watch myself
21:55 <Canada> yeah 
21:55 <Canada> well
21:56 <Canada> its his server
21:56 <Canada>  and a company hosts it
21:56 <Canada> that way there isnt as much lag
21:56 <Vanhayes> Canada: you can switch to yourself if you want
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21:57 <Canada> it kicked me from the channel
21:57 <Canada> wireless internet sucks :P
21:57 <Canada> how can i switch to me when its playing
21:57 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: oh ya, for some reason it was only the servers hosted by the company you use that I had a high ping, it was weird
21:58 <Canada> wrtl what company hosts your servers
21:58 <Legit> i thoguht wrtls server is the msot stablest
21:59 <Canada> alll i know is one lives in uk so when im on his server i lag a ton and when hes on like say wrtl's he lags a ton
21:59 <Canada> or
21:59 <Canada> where is he from if he isnt from uk
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21:59 <[TM]Sticky> anywhere eles
21:59 <Canada> lol
21:59 <[TM]Sticky> by definition
22:00 <Legit> i lagged bout 4 times the whole time
22:00 <wrtlprnft> i don't know what's wrong
22:00 <[TM]Sticky> yeah the lag was a BITCH
22:00 <wrtlprnft> maybe too many servers
22:00 <Canada> hes from the future... lol
22:00 <wrtlprnft> i'll take down the 4 team styball and the ctf
22:00 <[TM]Sticky> what connection / spec pc??
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22:01 <Canada> wrtl, you should have done that before
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22:01 <Commn> woo
22:01 <Canada> hey durka
22:01 <Commn> fun match
22:01 <Canada> who are you
22:01 <Commn> <~ kamakazi
22:01 <Canada> oh
22:01 <Canada> key
22:01 <Canada> hey**
22:01 <Canada> you were beast in kills kama
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22:01 <Commn> lol
22:01 <wrtlprnft> well, the servers were empty at the time of the match
22:01 <Commn> sorry i coulndnt help you win canada 
22:02 <Canada> its fine
22:02 <Canada> we would have lost worse if we didnt have you
22:02 <Canada> you were beast 
22:03 <Canada> but
22:03 <Canada> pez was good def
22:03 <Canada>  so
22:03 <Canada>  ....
22:03 <Canada> lol
22:03 <[TM]Sticky> who are you commn??
22:03 <Commn> i got killed not by his def
22:03 <Canada> kama
22:03 <Commn> but by his sweepers
22:03 <[TM]Sticky> ahh
22:03 <Canada> commn = kamakazi
22:03 <Canada> i played sweeper the first match
22:03 <Canada> then i played mid field match 2
22:04 <Canada> i did way better first match
22:04 <Canada> ?? deserved their win
22:04 <Commn> they played fair, one man down, and without winzone
22:04 -!- [TM]Sticky is now known as _Sticky_
22:04 <Canada> winzone was a pretty gay rule for the ladle
22:05 <Canada> who made ladle rules
22:05 <Vanhayes> it has been there since the sppon tho
22:05 <Vanhayes> spoon*
22:05 <Commn> you are just jealous you didnt get a chance to use it canada ;p
22:05 <Canada>  lol
22:05 <Commn> stay alive for winzone!
22:05 <Commn> ;p
22:05 <ghableska> #fortune
22:05 <armabot> Random Fortune: His honour rooted in dishonour stood, || And faith unfaithful kept him falsely true. || -Alfred Lord Tennyson
22:06 <Canada> cause when i lived to the end i would be last left and i suck at def so they would get into the zone and win before i could hit winzone... the win zone only came up once in both matches though
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22:07 <Canada> i cant wait to watch van's recording
22:07 <Commn> haha
22:07 <Commn> how does one watch a recording?
22:07 <Commn> i never done it
22:07 <Vanhayes> armagetron playback
22:07 <Canada> he hasnt posted it yet, its like 2 mbs
22:07 <Canada> van, is it to big to post?
22:07 <Vanhayes> its 2.1 and the limit is 2 so...
22:08 <Canada> thats gay
22:08 <Canada> post it on wiki
22:08 <Canada> and send link of which wiki page its on
22:08 <wrtlprnft> or mail it to me
22:09 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: what your e-mail?
22:09  * wrtlprnft @ /me . de
22:10 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: do you want the zip or the actual recording?
22:10 <wrtlprnft> i'd bz2 it
22:10 <wrtlprnft> i don't care about the compression
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22:15 <_Sticky_> can i get a copy of some of the logs?
22:16 <_Sticky_> hay legit whats the scor od tu - ss
22:18 <Canada> van, can you email to me, toragwanderer@yahoo.com and make it so all i have to do is download it and watch it, or make it so i can watch it with windows media player
22:18 <Vanhayes> wow hotmail is really craping out on me today
22:19 <Vanhayes> Canada: I cant make it so it will play on wmp
22:19 <Canada> kk
22:19 <Canada> then what ever
22:19 <Legit> 1-0 ss is winnin
22:19 <Canada> just make it so i can watch it
22:19 <Canada> ss is beating tui?
22:19 <_Sticky_> even game??
22:19 <Canada> mmmm
22:20 <_Sticky_> ss was my guess as tournamnet winners
22:20 <Legit> tui has 1 more player
22:20 <Legit> me2
22:20 <Canada> if we went against ps we might have beat them
22:20 <Vanhayes> ya they have the best team Id say
22:20 <Canada> pez rocks at def
22:20 <_Sticky_> doubt it
22:20 <Legit> they suck, they dont attack
22:20 <_Sticky_> we had a pretty shocking gmae
22:21 <ii2020> van.. you recorded our game?
22:21 <Legit> if we had a betetr def i would attack i always pwn pez def
22:21 <Canada> heh
22:21 <Legit> noone culd or wanted to def so i did
22:21 <Vanhayes> ii2020: ya i did, its too big to go on forums as is, so I sent it to wrtlprnft
22:21 <Canada> yeah he did, z-man recorded all the rest of the games
22:22 <Canada> van, can you email it to me
22:22 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: didn't get anything yet
22:22 <ii2020> brilliant! i mean... worst game in history! hehehe
22:22 <Canada> one, you just had a ton of lag
22:22 <Canada> if you had a ok ping we might have won
22:22 <ii2020> yes... not the biggest problem though
22:22 <Legit> i thought we did good, us n tui have about the same scores as we did vs them
22:22 <Canada> yeah
22:23 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: hotmail is having problems today it seems, I just sent it
22:23 <Canada> ss just has a great team
22:23 <ii2020> legit.. will you play for tm again>?
22:23 <Canada> 2020, you're already pulling together a team for next time?
22:23 <ii2020> i want to be a little more certain for the future so i don't accept.... hmmm how can i put this...?
22:24 <ii2020> canada... um... hmmm... 
22:24 <Legit> sure, i think tm is gettin better  (as a team)
22:24 <ii2020> ? what after that game?
22:24 <Canada> lol you can say people like me, i know i suck
22:24 <ii2020> heheheeheh
22:24 <Legit> just need mor eplayers to stay alive so its not 4 vs 1
22:24 <ii2020> canada... it is not that you suck... it is that you need to find a team where your thinking matches your teammates thinking
22:24 <ii2020> you get me?
22:25 <Canada> aka i suck
22:25 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: ah ill try that again looks like it didnt get thru
22:25 <Canada> lol
22:25 <ii2020> so when you pull off your crazy moves... well your team mates know that... and they are playing the same way...
22:25 <Canada> its ok... i havnt been playing near as long as any of you guys, and im in need of more training
22:25 <ii2020> honestly... could be the most amazing defence...
22:25 <Canada> 5 months isnt really enough
22:25 <ii2020> completely unpredictable
22:26 <Legit> imma buy a nice graphic card soon so i dont lag as much as i normally do
22:26 <ii2020> ok legit... stick your name on the wiki please... on the front page of tronic monkeys...
22:26 <Legit> whats the site
22:26 <ii2020> i hope to get 8 committed players by the next ladle
22:27 <Canada> but 2020, il promise il train well, and maybe in a few months i can be good enough to match up to some of you guys
22:27 <ii2020> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Tronic_Monkeys
22:27 <madmax|pt> reminds me of a double def one day. i was inner def, so, i thought i would turn around and circle to the other side, the outer guy freaked out and almost killed me, guess he wasnt predicting that :P
22:27 <Legit> canada ill train u how to grind hard :)
22:27 <_Sticky_> surely graphics cant be why your lagging...compaired to the net lag it would be a piss in the ocean
22:27 <Canada> :D
22:28 <Canada> i need a new computer, hopfully il get one for christmas, but im prolly getting a bass guitar, so i dont think i can get a nice computer AND a bass guitar
22:28 <ii2020> ok canada... let's practice this month some time... and with legit offering his help and me too... we can get this grinding down
22:28 <_Sticky_> hehe grinding 101
22:28 <ii2020> but really... i think it is not the computer, and not even simple grind, but something about how your mind works...
22:28 <ii2020> what do you do in the real world?
22:29 <Canada> what do you mean?
22:29 <Canada> im 12... i dont work
22:29 <Canada> im in school
22:29 <ii2020> ahhhhhhhh
22:29 <Canada> lol
22:29 <ii2020> now it makes sense hehehhe
22:29 <madmax|pt> lol
22:29 <ii2020> you are 12!
22:29 <Legit> practice sumo canada i bet ull egt good
22:29 <_Sticky_> yeah i play at 30fps on a laptop over wifi...the quality of the pc doesnt realy matter
22:29 <ii2020> hehaha
22:29 <ii2020> hehehahaha
22:29 <ii2020> cool
22:29 <Canada> anyone wanna go lod sumo?
22:29 <ii2020> ok
22:29 <ii2020> heheheh
22:29 <Legit> i practiced sumo alot and then 1 day jsut got awesome at it
22:29 <wrtlprnft> #night
22:29 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
22:29 <Legit> now i use it n fortress
22:29 <madmax|pt> Legit has a typo problem!
22:30 <Canada> bye wrtl
22:30 <_Sticky_> cya
22:30 <Legit> yes i do, i used to never have that problem until i started playin tron lol
22:30 <Canada> if anyone wants to talk im going to practice in lod sumo
22:30 <ii2020> ok bye
22:30 <madmax|pt> :)
22:30 <Legit> i will after tui vs ss
22:30 <ii2020> hehehehahaha
22:31 <ii2020> i can't stop laughing
22:31 <Legit> y :-/
22:31 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: ah, seems that it just wont go thru, no clue why.
22:31 <ii2020> 12! hehehe
22:32 <ii2020> i was wondering... i mean... i knew it wasn't just grinding.... hmmm how on earth do you teach a 12 year old about tactics?
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22:32 <ii2020> well if he sticks at it, he will be the world's best at 15
22:33 <ii2020> hi ghableska could have done with you today 
22:34 <ii2020> so anyone know what the score was between tui and sp?
22:35 <ghableska> hi 2020 
22:35 <Legit> winzones r allowed n ladleS?
22:35 <ghableska> nah, I doubt it
22:35 <Legit> ss jsut hit one lol
22:36 <ii2020> oh yes
22:36 <ghableska> who won?
22:36 <ii2020> ?? did
22:36 <Legit> 1-1 ss winning so far n 3rd
22:36 <ghableska> ok
22:36 <ii2020> are you sure you can't commit to play for the tronic monkeys?
22:36 <Legit> best of 5 tho i think
22:37 <Legit> i need site to put my name on it
22:37 <Vanhayes> winzones are allowed, well they have been for the last few anyways
22:37 <ghableska> I was gone a lot today, so I wouldn't have been able to play.
22:37 <Legit> really? ppl always told me it was never allowed till now
22:38 <ii2020> winzones? they've always been there
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22:38 <Legit> ya but they say i couldnt touch it lol
22:38 <luke-jr> Legit: PC quality = FPS
22:39 <ii2020> imagine if it was 2v1 and the attackers just didn't attack... the def needs to have the option of the win zone
22:39 <luke-jr> wireless adds to lag
22:39 <ii2020> it's to avoid stalemates
22:39 <luke-jr> in fact, wireless would explain your "spontaneous lag" stuff
22:39 <Legit> lol, def wouldnt make it to the winzone n time
22:40 <luke-jr> z-man: ..
22:40 <Legit> o it does?
22:41 <madmax|pt> Legit: i saw it happen
22:41 <luke-jr> yeah
22:41 <luke-jr> wireless isn't good for latency
22:41 <Legit> is there anything to egt to improve it?
22:41 <luke-jr> an ethernet cable
22:42 <luke-jr> wireless needs to modulate your data onto radio frequencies
22:42 <luke-jr> that adds delay
22:43 <luke-jr> especially if you're sharing the wireless w/ someone else
22:43 <luke-jr> only one PC can talk on WiFi at a time
22:43 <Legit> ya i am with 2 other ppl
22:43 <Vanhayes> my neighbor uses my wireless
22:44 <luke-jr> Legit: so you're splitting airtime 3 way
22:44 <luke-jr> so your PC can only send/receive 1/3 of the time
22:45 <Legit> so its basically my cable not my pc?
22:45 <madmax|pt> Vanhayes: is he supposed to?
22:46 <luke-jr> what cable?
22:46 <Legit> cox
22:48 <luke-jr> I expect that's not a problem
22:48 <luke-jr> it's the wireless
22:50 <Legit> ok, thx
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22:51 <Vanhayes> madmax|pt: no, but we have known them for a while so dont really care
22:53 <G5_Ger> bye
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23:02 <Legit> ss wins
23:04 <Vanhayes> score?
23:04 <pavelo> 3:1 i think
23:04 <MaZuffeR> yes 3:1
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23:05 <Vanhayes> wd
23:05 <MaZuffeR> thx
23:06 <mkzelda> i should play something other than sweeper next time
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23:18 <madmax|pt> anyone knows the game "N" ?
23:21 <Pez> never heard of it
23:22 <Vanhayes> I think ive heard of it, a shooter?
23:22 <MaZuffeR> N is great :D
23:22 <madmax|pt> try it http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n.html
23:22 <madmax|pt> yep, its pretty cool
23:23 <madmax|pt> free btw
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23:30 <Pez> hmm, i'm being stupid. cant playback the ladle files
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23:40 <DrJoeTron> DOOOD
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23:54 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
23:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: Norm's Place (11 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (11 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (10 players) || The Lobster Cage (7 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (7 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Gamma Deathmatch (1 more message)

Log from 2006-12-04:
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00:02 <Vanhayes> #night
00:02 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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00:20 <ii2020> gnight guys
00:21 <ghableska> night
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00:31 <GodTodd> piece of fucking shit
00:36 <madmax|pt> oO
00:36 <ghableska> Oo
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01:56 <Durka> #lastseen oposal
01:57 <armabot> Durka: timed out
01:57 <Durka> #lastseen sneak
01:57 <armabot> Durka: )PWNsneak has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 4 days 12 hours 4 minutes ago.
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02:20 <GodTodd> thynhyjuuuuuuh ygu8jyuj juji uui nhjnmuk b\
02:20 <GodTodd> \
02:20 <ghableska> hi there 
02:20 <GodTodd> = p = ]b+ nbh
02:21 <ghableska> having some problems?
02:29 <GodTodd> no...have a nine month old
02:31 <ghableska> ah :)
02:42 <spidey> GodTodd, you adopt luke-jr ?
02:43 <GodTodd> yep right after i lost my mind
02:44 <spidey> lol
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> yep, that's about how a nine-month-old talks
03:03 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 12.2°F (7:54 PM CST on December 03, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 1.4°F. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036 hPa. 
03:05  * ghableska yawns
03:10 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: you mean "= p = ]b+ nbh"?
03:10 <GodTodd> :)
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> wow
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> I just realized that evolution and war are essentially the same thing, making the same decision
03:29 <GodTodd> natural selection?
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, you've heard the saying "War doesn't decide who's right, it only decides who is left"?
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> I think legions should upgrade phalanxes
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> or at least be cheaper, they're fairly useless because by the time you can produce them at the same rate as phalanxes, you have muskets
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> and the whole point of legions in ancient rome was that they were cheap primarily because the individual soldiers outfitted themselves
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> I'm also considering bumping up the base firepower of gunpowder units, but that'll only work if I can increase the firepower of modern units
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> I think instead of getting higher attack/defense ratings, gunpowder units should get more firepower
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> Combined arms was the concept of using infantry, cavalry, and artillery in a coordinated way.
03:52 <spidey> ...
03:52 <spidey> why?
03:52 <spidey> if that's the case you only have to build a shitload of cannons and not upgrade
03:52 <spidey> they already almost pwn forted riflemen in city walls
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> forted riflemen would have higher firepower too
03:58 <spidey> so?
03:58 <Lucifer_arma> the thing I'm trying to determine is where rate of fire should be figured into a unit's ratings
03:58 <spidey> it's defense that counts
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, the thing that made cannons useful was their firepower, and cannons actually rendered city walls obsolete
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> city walls were built to keep out infantry and cavalry, and catapults were used to beat them down.  Cannons tore them down in nothing flat.
04:00 <spidey> why increase the firepower of them?
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the question is, what makes a rifleman inherently a better unit than an archer?
04:00 <spidey> i mean, if they go any higher they'll have a higher attack than most modern units defense
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, increasing firepower doesn't help against city walls, it only helps after you hit :)
04:01 <spidey> riflemen is better than a archer because of its defense and attack?
04:01 <spidey> hell
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> no, ignore defense and attack ratings, just look at the units, technology, and training
04:01 <spidey> fanatics in fundamentalism is a better unit for defense than a MI
04:01 <spidey> they get 4 defense points
04:02 <spidey> and when fortafied it gets a 50% increase
04:02 <spidey> bringing it to 6
04:02 <spidey> and with a 15 production it takes like 1 turn to spit them out
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> nononono, ignore civ stuff
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> look on wikipedia or something :)
04:14 <Lucifer_arma> what makes someone with a rifle inherently stronger than someone with a bow?
04:14 <spidey> longer range?
04:15 <spidey> bullets hurt more ;x
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> that would be firepower :)
04:15 <spidey> it would actually depend
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> there's something about how a conscripted, partially trained rifleman can reach the same rate of fire as a skilled bowmen
04:16 <Lucifer_arma> but archery was a life skill, you practiced it from very young to get that good
04:16 <spidey> in open yes, a riflemen has a better chance, but with other elements you could get you could get your ass kicked :p
04:17 <spidey> besides
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
04:17 <spidey> back then they had muskets
04:17 <spidey> which take along time to reload
04:18 <spidey> luke-jr, 
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05:37 <Durka> hi manta
05:37 <luke-jr> spidey: wtf u want now
05:38 <Durka> type /join #teamsumo
05:39 <spidey> luke-jr, change my domain to 66.90.118.168
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05:45 <luke-jr> spidey: which one?
05:45 <spidey> ..
05:45 <spidey> fallin-angels.net
05:45 <luke-jr> ., dz, or spidey?
05:45 <spidey> the domain
05:46 <luke-jr> you have 2 subdomains
05:46 <spidey> i know
05:46 <luke-jr> so just .?
05:46 <luke-jr> 69.61.80.70 -> 66.90.118.168
05:46 <spidey> oh, my ip changed to,  so 	68.114.141.224
05:47 <luke-jr> 68.112.91.195 -> 68.114.141.224
05:47 <luke-jr> both of those right?
05:47 <spidey> yea
05:47 <luke-jr> ok done
05:47 <spidey> i haven't had a 24. ip in along time,they must have dropped that range =/
05:49 <luke-jr> probably
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05:57 <Durka> hi legit
05:57 <Durka> type /join #teamsumo
05:57 <Durka> unless ur in the irc from my site
05:57 <Durka> if that's the case it wont work
05:57 <Durka> just go to http://durdur.freehostia.com/irc/arma-irc.html
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05:58 <Arma41> wow more and more chats
05:58 <Arma41> .
06:00 <Arma41> so y did i come durka?
06:00 <luke-jr> Legit: want the first half of December for $5? (50% of half $20/month)?
06:01 <Legit> dont i have it till the 18th durka said?
06:01 <luke-jr> for $5, it's somewhere around the 18th
06:02 <luke-jr> I don't have an exact date on it
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> so, what makes a rifleman inherently superior to an archer?
06:03 <luke-jr> ......
06:03 <luke-jr> his ammo moves faster
06:03 <luke-jr> :p
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, I forgot why we were talking about it
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait, yeah.  I was thinking about bumping up the first tier of gunpowder units to firepower 2
06:04 <Legit> .
06:05 <luke-jr> Legit: ...
06:06 <spidey> 74.2 gigs of movies =/
06:06 <Legit> ?
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> ok, WWI was fought with riflemen as infantry with some machine gun support, howitzers, and horsed cavalry
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> and saw the introduction of tanks
06:06 <luke-jr> Legit: you retard, you took your own name
06:06 <luke-jr> Legit: so want half the month for $5? :p
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> why don't we ever end up with that configuration for very long in freeciv?
06:07 <luke-jr> cuz we have people doing pure science
06:07 <spidey> because we have all techs before 1300ad ?
06:07 <luke-jr> and I set techpoints low
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> it seems like we do muskets and cannons for a long time, then shoot up into tanks and artillery, where "artillery" *is* a howitzer, and I don't know wtf a howitzer is supposed to be
06:07 <spidey> actually i had all techs in 180 turns
06:07 <spidey> no
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06:07 <spidey> i had all techs in less than 170 turns
06:08 <spidey> ...
06:08 <spidey> we need a panzerfrost unit ;x
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> I think the gunpowder units all need increased firepower
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06:10 <spidey> no
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> why?
06:10 <spidey> why?
06:10 <spidey> because they're strong enough as is
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> because I think that's what makes a rifleman better than an archer :)
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, the problem is that there isn't much room to add other units
06:11 <spidey> hell i can take a city that has forted alpines and MI with about 6 cannons
06:11 <spidey> hardened cannons, anyways
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> really?  I've thrown away dozens of cannons against a city that was forted up with muskets and walls
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06:11 <luke-jr> lol
06:11 <LEGlT> say what
06:11 <spidey> really?
06:11 <spidey> haha
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> and that's not reasonable, cannons made city walls obsolete
06:11 <spidey> i don't see how
06:11 <spidey> i've done it easily
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> but rather than have cannons ignore city walls, I think the solution is to increase their firepower
06:12 <spidey> now you're just getting greedy :p
06:12 <spidey> brb , pizza
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06:15 <spidey> back
06:15 <spidey> and next time we play, if we do it with AI's , i want them on experimental :p
06:16 <spidey> they're still to easy on hard =/
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06:19 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not getting greedy, I want to add more early units and I want them to be a bit more realistic
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> take legions.  By the time we have cities capable of producing legions in quantity, we have muskets
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> that defeats the purpose of legions!  Legions were cheap units, and that was a big reason they defeated the phalanxes they fought
06:19 <luke-jr> pfft
06:20 <luke-jr> I want spacecraft and planets
06:20 <luke-jr> and battles in space
06:20 <luke-jr> :p
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> then why the hell do I have to study feudalism to get heavy cavalry?  The ROmans weren't feudalistic and they had heavy cavalry
06:20 <luke-jr> fix it
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> but if you don't go on a feudalism track, you don't get an upgrade to horsemen until you get cavalry with guns
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I'm trying to do
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> but there isn't room for new units that are significantly better than earlier units without making the gunpowder units weaker
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> the initial advantage to gunpowder units wasn't rate of fire, it was firepower
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, riflemen and archers should have the same attack rating, but riflemen have bayonets so should have a higher defense rating
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> but muskets have a distinct disadvantage in rate of fire, their advantage was range and firepower
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> but see, muskets and riflemen are infantry units, but archers were essentially artillery
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> fundamentally different roles
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> but muskets were less accurate than archers
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> so, why should muskets replace legions?  Also, what medieval infantry unit do we have, anyway?
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> keeping in mind that medieval warfare was mostly cavalry-based anyway
06:25  * Lucifer_arma notes that medieval warfare in freeciv is phalanxes and catapults, and occasionally knights/horsemen, which is totally ass-backwards
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06:32 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I see what I'm missing.  If you go on a feudalist track you get pikemen for your infantry unit
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06:44 <spidey> medieval
06:44 <spidey> eh
06:49 <luke-jr> he
06:50  * luke-jr pwns #armagetron?
06:50 <luke-jr> :)
06:50 <luke-jr> o
06:50 <luke-jr> #armagetronad?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I think I figurd something out
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> gunpowder should just give a boost to existing units to reflect the fact that they're starting to use primitive gunpowder weapons
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> cannons should come before muskets
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> also, metallurgy (which gives cannons) should make city walls obsolete
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> then a second building that can be built needs to be created that provides city walls for the gunpowder era :)
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> the uh, problem is that the rules don't let me do the city walls thing :(
06:52 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: did you fix the sound blocking bug yet
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> no
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> did you?
06:53 <luke-jr> no clue
06:53 <luke-jr> sound is your stuff
06:53 <spidey> ...
06:53 <spidey> city walls obsolete?
06:53 <spidey> gay
06:53 <spidey> it should only make the great wall obsolete
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06:55 <Lucifer_arma> no, I meant more like how barracks get obsoleted
06:55 <spidey> ..
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> so there'd be a City Walls II or something like that :)
06:56 <spidey> what's to upgrade with city walls?
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> which provides City Walls for gunpowder units.  Problem is, I don't think the freeciv rules are that flexible
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygonal_fort
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> that was the development made after castles were rendered obsolete by cannons
06:57 <luke-jr> that page says you're wrong
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> so, what we need is a city wall that provides a second bonus to gunpowder units
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> eh?
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> wrong about what?
06:57 <luke-jr> The complex and sophisticated designs of star forts that preceded them were highly effective against cannon assault, but proved much less effective against the more accurate fire of rifled guns and the destructive power of explosive shells. 
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't say I'm wrong
06:57 <luke-jr> City Walls replace w/ Star Fort :p
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> that only says you can't read
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> except that City Walls aren't Star Fort
06:58 <luke-jr> exactly
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06:58 <Lucifer_arma> city walls were built first, to defend against infantry with swords and spears and shit
06:58 <luke-jr> after castles were obsoleted by canons, they made star forts
06:58  * Arma84 Lucifer_arma
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's what I said
06:58 <luke-jr> no, you said polygonal was...
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> scroll up and reread what I said
07:02 <spidey> wtf
07:02 <spidey> there's a horse square??????
07:02 <spidey> open terrain1.png
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07:04 <Lucifer_arma> what tileset?
07:05 <luke-jr> hachi 5555
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> icbms?
07:06 <luke-jr> resume
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
07:06 <spidey> ??
07:07 <luke-jr> spidey: hachi 5555
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07:26 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/sumo/team-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
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07:45 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/sumo/team-0.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
07:47 <Durka> hi zman
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07:53 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/sumo/team-0.0.5.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
07:53 <Durka> sorry for upploading all of those
07:53 <Durka> BUT
07:53 <Durka> each of them can be used for different things
07:53 <luke-jr> ...
07:53 <Durka> 0.3 is a smaller version
07:54 <luke-jr> upload as many as make sense
07:54 <luke-jr> and more
07:54 <Durka> lol
07:54 <Durka> its team sumo
07:54 <luke-jr> note that SIZE_FACTOR does exist, tho :)
07:54 <Durka> not size factor
07:54 <Durka> i mean the zone sizes
07:55 <luke-jr> o
07:56 <luke-jr> I think the Resource element needs a new attribute
07:56 <luke-jr> Variant
07:56 <luke-jr> :)
07:59 <Durka> i put ALL of the settings for team sumo
07:59 <Durka> if you want you could put up a team sumo server
08:00 <Durka> just put the line: MAP_FILE Durka/sumo/team-0.0.5.aamap.xml
08:00 <Durka> :p
08:01 <luke-jr> that's a bad thing
08:02 <luke-jr> it means all your maps will break by 1.0
08:02 <luke-jr> or at least be in backwards compatibility mode
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08:04 <manta> Durka: my internet disconected
08:05 <Durka> ok its all good now
08:05 <Durka> its working perfectly...so far :p
08:06 <Durka> go into the server so i can tell u the settings
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08:30 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/sumo/team-0.0.6.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
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09:42 <spidey> luke wussies out to much :p
09:43  * spidey goes to watch scream
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09:44 <spidey> ...
09:44 <spidey> spanish
09:44 <spidey> i'm not spanish :<
09:52 <manta> spidey:  Adios amigo  
09:53 <spidey> :/
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13:08 <DrJoeTron> anyone wanna give me a hand with working with livecd?
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13:13 <DrJoeTron> damn it
13:15 <spidey> ?
13:15 <spidey> DrJoeTron, wtf you want a windows live cd for?
13:15 <DrJoeTron> nah its ubuntu
13:15 <spidey> lol
13:16 <spidey> what exactly do you want to do with it?
13:16 <spidey> you on it now?
13:16 <DrJoeTron> fucking load :D
13:16 <spidey> load?
13:16 <spidey> eh?
13:16 <DrJoeTron> yeah
13:16 <DrJoeTron> it wont boot
13:16 <spidey> ...
13:16 <spidey> why
13:16 <DrJoeTron> ck if i know
13:16 <spidey> does it give errors?
13:17 <DrJoeTron> not at al
13:17 <DrJoeTron> its like "oh man, i think i should load windows"
13:17 <spidey> lol!
13:17 <DrJoeTron> but i want you to boot the cd? "ok, windows it is"
13:17 <spidey> dude
13:17 <spidey> do this
13:17 <spidey> reboot
13:17 <spidey> hit F12
13:17 <spidey> or whatever brings you to the bios config
13:17 <DrJoeTron> i set it to boot off of the cd
13:17 <DrJoeTron> dur
13:18 <spidey> how many cd-rom drives you got?
13:18 <DrJoeTron> 1
13:18 <spidey> try disabling the harddrives
13:18 <DrJoeTron> i did
13:18 <spidey> ....
13:18 <spidey> wtf
13:18 <DrJoeTron> and then its like HEY WAR R THE DRIVES? OOP, FOUN DTHEM LOAD WINDOWS ^_^ KEKEKEKE
13:19 <DrJoeTron> and then i discovered disabling booting form other devices
13:19 <spidey> well
13:19 <spidey> sucks. heh
13:19 <spidey> besides, mepis is a better choice :p
13:19 <spidey> www.mepis.org
13:19 <DrJoeTron> and it went "herp derp, IM NOT BOOTING!"
13:19 <DrJoeTron> i've got more friends who use ubuntu
13:19 <spidey> so?
13:19 <DrJoeTron> can get better support
13:20 <spidey> no
13:20 <spidey> ubuntu is a debian distro
13:20 <DrJoeTron> i plan on reformating over break
13:20 <spidey> mepis is a debian distro
13:20 <spidey> besides
13:20 <spidey> what isn't precompiled, you can compile
13:21 <DrJoeTron> i dont know  how to compile "/
13:21 <spidey> ..
13:21 <DrJoeTron> well i dont
13:21 <DrJoeTron> i've been raised off of window all of my life
13:22 <spidey> so was i :p
13:22 <spidey> linux isn't that hard, heh
13:22 <DrJoeTron> it shouldnt be
13:22 <DrJoeTron> yet i feel like a total dweeb that livecd wont fucking work
13:22 <DrJoeTron> i'll just try and redownload it
13:22 <spidey> ..
13:23 <spidey> why a live cd?
13:23 <DrJoeTron> cause i wanna try it out first
13:23 <DrJoeTron> before i consider dual booting
13:23 <spidey> livecd doesn't really show you anything
13:24 <DrJoeTron> it wil be showing me something
13:24 <spidey> just the gui? :p
13:25 <DrJoeTron> yup!
13:25 <DrJoeTron> thats all i need
13:25 <spidey> lol
13:26 <DrJoeTron> my friend was trying out the livecd
13:27 <DrJoeTron> and was like "il just use this forever and run everything needed for windows will be ran through wine :D!
13:27 <spidey> no
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13:28 <DrJoeTron> haha yeah tell me about it
13:28 <spidey> you plan on running games in wine?
13:28 <DrJoeTron> fuck no
13:28 <DrJoeTron> this was her
13:28 <DrJoeTron> not i
13:28 <DrJoeTron> i know better
13:28 <spidey> wine doesn't really support dX, heh
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13:28 <DrJoeTron> im aware
13:28 <spidey> joe
13:28 <spidey> send me a blank cd :(
13:28 <DrJoeTron> ok
13:29 <DrJoeTron> give me your address
13:29 <spidey> hmm
13:29 <spidey> it'd be scratched to hell by the time it got here :p
13:30 <spidey> i've considered running vmware in *nix for games
13:30 <spidey> but i dunno how it'll run =/
13:31 <spidey> oh
13:31 <spidey> btw
13:31 <spidey> mepis uses a ubuntu kernal
13:31 <spidey> the new version does anyhow
13:32 <DrJoeTron> thats great
13:32 <DrJoeTron> so does ubuntu :V
13:32 <spidey> you sure?
13:32 <spidey> ;x
13:33 <spidey> Linux just isn't user-friendly when it comes to viruses. You have to work to find and run them. It doesn't happen automatically as it does with Windows. The GNU/Linux folks really should improve this glaring discrepancy.
13:33 <spidey> LOL
13:46 <spidey> DrJoeTron, you use photoshop?
13:46 <DrJoeTron> yup
13:46 <spidey> i've only been able to make annoying things
13:46 <spidey> like this motion blur thing that makes your eyes water
13:46 <DrJoeTron> found the filters tab i see?
13:46 <spidey> yea :D
13:47 <DrJoeTron> i try my hardest not to use filters
13:47 <spidey> i like the lins flare :/
13:47 <DrJoeTron> yeah i bet you do, you dweeb
13:47 <spidey> lol
13:47 <DrJoeTron> do yourself a favor
13:47 <DrJoeTron> use it little as possible
13:47 <DrJoeTron> because a year from now you're gonna go "my god i was so lame"
13:47 <spidey> i haven't actually figured out howto use it :D
13:47 <DrJoeTron> which is why i dont do my web comic anymore
13:48 <DrJoeTron> what version do you have?
13:48 <spidey> cs2
13:48 <spidey> the lates
13:48 <spidey> latest
13:48 <DrJoeTron> ok
13:48 <DrJoeTron> did you get illustrator with it?
13:48 <spidey> mmm?
13:48 <DrJoeTron> or just photoshop
13:48 <spidey> i get a popup with some howto stuff that doesn't really explain anything
13:48 <spidey> lol
13:49 <DrJoeTron> i have illiustratpr cs2 and photoshop cs1 (8.0)
13:49 <DrJoeTron> and before that i had 5.0
13:49 <spidey> i remember along time ago
13:49 <DrJoeTron> wanna learn some cheap parlor tricks?
13:49 <spidey> i tried to run ps with 128mb of ram
13:49 <spidey> yea i done used the polar filter :
13:49 <spidey> :p
13:50 <DrJoeTron> heres a quick easy one
13:50 <DrJoeTron> make a new document, 500x500
13:51 <DrJoeTron> make the backround black
13:51 <spidey> sec
13:51 <DrJoeTron> let me know when you're ready
13:51 <DrJoeTron> and while your doing that, i'll find something else for you
13:52 <DrJoeTron> im just testing them out to see if i still remember them
13:52 <spidey> k
13:52 <spidey> done
13:53 <DrJoeTron> ok
13:53 <DrJoeTron> next go to filter > render > clouds
13:53 <spidey> k
13:53 <spidey> done
13:54 <DrJoeTron> ok now
13:54 <DrJoeTron> filter > pixelate > mezotint
13:54 <DrJoeTron> select medium lines
13:54 <spidey> done
13:54 <DrJoeTron> ok
13:54 <DrJoeTron> now
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13:55 <DrJoeTron> filter > blur > radial blur > blur method zoom > quality best > amount 100
13:55 <DrJoeTron> then hit ctrl-U
13:56 <DrJoeTron> which brings up hue/saturation
13:56 <DrJoeTron> check the colorize box
13:56 <DrJoeTron> fuck with the hue and saturation
13:56 <DrJoeTron> and presto
13:56 <spidey> cool
13:56 <DrJoeTron> like i said
13:57 <DrJoeTron> its a cute little trick
13:57 <DrJoeTron> im trying to remember one but its escaping me
13:57 <DrJoeTron> big tip
13:57 <DrJoeTron> layers
13:57 <DrJoeTron> they are your friend
13:57 <DrJoeTron> the bestest friend ever
13:57 <DrJoeTron> and feel free to fuck with the symbols and use them for shit they arent supposed to be for
13:58 <spidey> symbolsS?
13:58 <spidey> like
13:58 <spidey> any idea how to change text and stuff
13:58 <spidey> like, for a logo?
13:59 <DrJoeTron> course i do
13:59 <DrJoeTron> what are you trying to accomplish?
14:00 <DrJoeTron> www.w-w-c.net is all of the stuff i did
14:01 <spidey> hmm
14:01 <spidey> just text styles
14:01 <spidey> is that a ps layout?
14:01 <DrJoeTron> sort of
14:01 <DrJoeTron> i drew it up in photoshop
14:03 <DrJoeTron> ive been using photoshop for about 4 years now
14:04 <DrJoeTron> nah
14:04 <DrJoeTron> 5 years
14:05 <spidey> btw
14:05 <spidey> htf i save it as a .jpg
14:05 <DrJoeTron> htf?
14:05 <DrJoeTron> how?
14:06 <spidey> how the fuck
14:06 <DrJoeTron> is it jpeg worthy?
14:06 <DrJoeTron> or do you wanna make it a gif
14:06 <DrJoeTron> ask yourself!
14:06 <DrJoeTron> whats it going for
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14:07 <spidey> nothing, it's just that stupid thing
14:07 <spidey> lol
14:07 <spidey> :D
14:07 <DrJoeTron> other wise its just file save as
14:07 <DrJoeTron> jpg
14:07 <spidey> that only gives me .psd
14:07 <DrJoeTron> durr
14:07 <spidey> nothing else
14:07 <DrJoeTron> hmm...
14:08 <spidey> i've only been able to save it as .gif's
14:08 <DrJoeTron> you clicked format and it gave you lip?
14:08 <DrJoeTron> it just said psd?
14:08 <DrJoeTron> because psd is the default
14:09 <DrJoeTron> format will give you many
14:09 <spidey> ?
14:09 <spidey> save as type only gives me psd
14:10 <spidey> there isn't a "all" so i can rename it
14:10 <spidey> heh
14:10 <DrJoeTron> im thinking here
14:10 <DrJoeTron> because thats odd
14:10 <DrJoeTron> click save a copyu
14:10 <DrJoeTron> save as a copy i mean
14:10 <spidey> http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/834/untitled1xu0.gif
14:10 <DrJoeTron> that might give you a work around
14:10 <spidey> :D:D
14:11 <DrJoeTron> my latest thing to do is work with mspaint
14:11 <spidey> i don't have mspaint cause i'm leet
14:11 <spidey> :p
14:12 <spidey> actually the reason i installed ps was so i could do screenshots =/
14:13 <DrJoeTron> hah
14:13 <DrJoeTron> well then remember this
14:13 <DrJoeTron> when you want to shrink the size or anything
14:14 <DrJoeTron> hit ctrl-T
14:14 <DrJoeTron> it will do wonders to it
14:14 <spidey> image/image size
14:14 <spidey> :p
14:14 <DrJoeTron> no
14:14 <DrJoeTron> ctrl t
14:14 <DrJoeTron> does it all for you
14:14 <DrJoeTron> t = transform
14:14 <spidey> ah
14:14 <spidey> cool
14:16 <spidey> i really like the craquelure
14:17 <spidey> what's that other thing?
14:18 <DrJoeTron> what other thing
14:19 <spidey> <DrJoeTron> and while your doing that, i'll find something else for you
14:19 <DrJoeTron> i forgot it :/
14:19 <spidey> lol
14:19 <DrJoeTron> or its too much work to do it
14:19 <DrJoeTron> but yeah
14:19 <DrJoeTron> if you need help lemme know
14:20 <DrJoeTron> i need excuses to use photoshop
14:20 <spidey> lol
14:20 <spidey> k
14:25 <DrJoeTron> holy fuck
14:25 <DrJoeTron> raisin bran crunch
14:25 <DrJoeTron> why is it so amazing'
14:26 <spidey> o.O
14:30 <spidey> joe
14:30 <spidey> once i'm done using the type layor how do i tell it i'm done typing >.>
14:30 <spidey> it like
14:30 <spidey> won't go away
14:30 <spidey> :|
14:31 <MaZuffeR> click on another layer or another tool
14:31 <DrJoeTron> thanks maz
14:32 <MaZuffeR> yw
14:32 <DrJoeTron> i was busy eating manly food
14:32 <spidey> fruity loops doesn't count :p
14:32 <DrJoeTron> what a horrible program
14:34 <spidey> lol
14:39 <DrJoeTron> http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4289&p=6 play this game! and beat it!
14:39 <DrJoeTron> it should take you a minute
14:45 <spidey> sec
14:46 <spidey> hm
14:46 <spidey> it's loading slow
14:47 <spidey> argh
14:48 <DrJoeTron> nah
14:48 <DrJoeTron> scroll all the way down
14:48 <DrJoeTron> lowtax broke the site
14:53 <spidey> why won't it let me use inverse?
14:55 <DrJoeTron> the game?
14:56 <DrJoeTron> because it was made in less than a week
14:56 <spidey> ps :p
14:56 <DrJoeTron> what are you trying to do?
14:56 <spidey> http://www.rtideas.com/ticks/photoshop_t2/Big_Freeze.html#anchor263178
14:57 <DrJoeTron> i refuse to condone this
14:57 <spidey> :(
14:58 <DrJoeTron> www.good-tutorials.com here you go
14:58 <DrJoeTron> go there 
14:59 <spidey> grrr
14:59 <spidey> i get the feeling i'ma have to restart my router
15:04 <spidey> hmm
15:04 <spidey> gay
15:04 <spidey> i love how imageready always starts instead of pscs2
15:10 <MaZuffeR> and you don't know how to change that?
15:10 <spidey> ?
15:10 <spidey> sure, click pscs2 instead of imageready :D
15:11 <spidey> they're side-by-side and really small icons
15:11 <MaZuffeR> ah, i though you meant when opening a file
15:11 <MaZuffeR> thought*
15:11 <spidey> right click -> open with
15:11 <spidey> :p
15:12 <MaZuffeR> yeah, but so that it opens with the right program when you double click on it
15:12 <spidey> http://www.retireat21.com/tutorials/websitelayout/ps1.jpg
15:13 <spidey> mine doesn't look like that :(
15:13 <MaZuffeR> different version probably
15:18 <spidey> http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/9642/testmh7.jpg
15:18 <spidey> that's what mine looks like =/
15:19 <MaZuffeR> lol
15:19 <MaZuffeR> click on gradient overlay
15:19 <spidey> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
15:19  * spidey is dumb :(
15:21 <DrJoeTron> i like 8.0
15:21 <DrJoeTron> :)
15:22 <spidey> i'm using like, 9.somthing
15:23 <DrJoeTron> you're on 9
15:23 <DrJoeTron> alright il brb i gotta take my mama to work
15:25 <spidey> k
15:51 <DrJoeTron> ;
15:51 <DrJoeTron> hell yeah
15:51 <DrJoeTron> venture bros season 2 dvd set for April 17, 2007!
15:51 <DrJoeTron> :D
15:54 <spidey> o.O
15:54 <spidey> hmm
15:54 <spidey> i like this
15:56 <spidey> DrJoeTron, can i edit a old layer without losing all the layers after it?
15:56 <DrJoeTron> course
15:56 <spidey> how?
15:56 <DrJoeTron> select the layer
15:56 <DrJoeTron> in the layer window
15:56 <DrJoeTron> and bam
15:57 <spidey> ohhhhh
15:57 <spidey> ty
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15:58 <DrJoeTron> i need a new fucking monitor
15:59 <DrJoeTron> its killing my eyes
16:00 <DrJoeTron> bbl
16:00 <spidey> http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/7356/thingyba8.jpg
16:01 <DrJoeTron> :/
16:01 <spidey> ?
16:01 <DrJoeTron> pick colors that are easy on the eyes
16:02 <spidey> ...
16:02 <spidey> what's wrong with black and orange?
16:03 <DrJoeTron> what kind of site are you making
16:03 <spidey> just playing with it
16:03 <spidey> someone else is making a layout for me :)
16:03 <DrJoeTron> haha
16:04 <spidey> he's better at ps than me =/
16:04 <DrJoeTron> when it coems to stuff like that
16:04 <DrJoeTron> i dont know why
16:04 <DrJoeTron> but i hate getting help from people
16:04 <DrJoeTron> or well
16:04 <DrJoeTron> having them do it for me drives me crazy
16:04 <spidey> well, it's either that or we go back to a half-ass css design, because i do other stuff :p
16:05 <DrJoeTron> i wanna make anew site
16:05 <DrJoeTron> and do web comics
16:05 <DrJoeTron> that arent stupuid fucking sprite comcis
16:05 <spidey> lol
16:06 <spidey> www.fallin-angels.com/phpBB2
16:06 <spidey> for that
16:07 <spidey> i gotta stop using hard password
16:07 <spidey> i forgot the pass to the webserver, now i have to wait for the host dude to come online so he can reset the password
16:07 <spidey> >.>
16:08 <DrJoeTron> dragonheart?
16:08 <DrJoeTron> whos that?
16:08 <spidey> lizz :p
16:08 <DrJoeTron> ah
16:08 <DrJoeTron> she's still alive
16:08 <DrJoeTron> :)
16:08 <spidey> lol
16:10 <spidey> like
16:10 <spidey> what's the point of having a request thread?
16:10 <spidey> for sigs and stuff
16:10 <DrJoeTron> i hate most signatures
16:10 <spidey> if the guy's gonna make it "his" way and bitch if someone doesn't like it
16:10 <spidey> or wants it a different way
16:11 <spidey> hell, i had to listen to 10 minutes of bitching on x-fire because i asked him to change the background color from white to black
16:11 <spidey> heh
16:12 <DrJoeTron> most of them are consisting of flames, pot leaves, motion blur, and lens flares
16:12 <DrJoeTron> and break tables
16:12 <spidey> nah
16:12 <spidey> you have to register to see it, but it's in the gfx thread
16:13 <spidey> he's good at it...but still =/
16:13 <DrJoeTron> hot link it for me
16:14 <spidey> ?
16:14 <spidey> that doesn't matter :p
16:14 <spidey> still have to register to see it
16:14 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=16
16:14 <DrJoeTron> not if you save it and then photobucket it
16:14 <spidey> what aare you wanting to see?
16:14 <DrJoeTron> i've got enough messageboards to look after
16:15 <spidey> i've got 3 =/
16:16 <spidey> MaZuffeR, you remember the link to the forums .css?
16:16 <MaZuffeR> no, but it's not hard to find
16:16 <spidey> i can't ftp , and my ssh account was disabled because the guy hosts people that like to get DDoS'd =(
16:17 <MaZuffeR> http://www.fallin-angels.com/phpBB2/templates/bcBlackBlu/bcBlackBlu.css
16:17 <spidey> ahhh
16:17 <spidey> i was doing themes
16:17 <spidey> lol
16:17 <spidey> #0184FF what i was looking for
16:18  * spidey goes back to ps
16:19 <spidey> DrJoeTron, can i add custom colors, like 0184FF
16:19 <spidey> instead of picking the colors?
16:20 <spidey> nvm
16:20 <spidey> got it
16:29 <spidey> ok
16:29 <spidey> need help :D
16:29 <spidey> text stuff :/
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17:43 <wrtlprnft> #ping
17:43 <armabot> pong
17:43 <wrtlprnft> grr, what was this nameserver IP again?
17:44 -!- HIM [n=lol@h111n2fls31o977.telia.com] has joined #armagetron
17:44 <HIM> hi all
17:44 <HIM> i need help
17:45 <HIM> someone in here online
17:45 <wrtlprnft> NAMESERVER IP: 4.2.2.1
17:45 <HIM> hallo??
17:45 <HIM> wrtlprnft are you online
17:46 <wrtlprnft> just writing that here so it's easier to find when greping my logs
17:46 <wrtlprnft> HIM: no, what you see of me is a bot
17:46 <HIM> wrtlprnft is it Ô.o
17:46 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft hasn't integrated this bot's functionality into armabot yet
17:46 <HIM> !kill someone
17:47 <wrtlprnft> anyways
17:47 <wrtlprnft> if your server is online, i can't connect to it right now
17:47 <wrtlprnft> so you need to adjust your firewall/router settings
17:47 <wrtlprnft> pretty intelligent bot, eh?
17:47 <HIM> i have no firewall
17:48 <wrtlprnft> i'm .99 positive you have a router.
17:48 <HIM> yeah but i dont know how to get the settings in it
17:48 <wrtlprnft> do you know what kind of router it is?
17:48 <HIM> no?
17:48 <spidey> bbiabout 3 hours
17:48 <spidey> >.>
17:49 <wrtlprnft> well, you'll need to find out.
17:49 -!- spidey [i=Administ@unaffiliated/mcspiddles] has quit ["Leaving"]
17:49 <wrtlprnft> just look at the box, for god's sake, i'm sure it's printed on it.
17:52 <HIM> we dont have something that block the port!!
17:52 <wrtlprnft> you do.
17:52 <HIM> no
17:52 <wrtlprnft> just follow the lan cable going out of the back of your computer, or find your wireless access point
17:52 <HIM> im 100% on it
17:53 <HIM> ok you meean the box we have a telia broadband
17:53 <wrtlprnft> if you didn't have anything that blocks the port it would work
17:53 <HIM> but i dont know what blocks that is the problem
17:53 <wrtlprnft> 17:52 <HIM> we dont have something that block the port!!
17:53 <wrtlprnft> well, you have to have *something* that blocks it
17:54 <wrtlprnft> and telia is your provider, not the manufacturer of your router
17:54 <wrtlprnft> 17:44 -!- HIM [n=lol@h111n2fls31o977.telia.com] has joined #armagetron
17:54 <HIM> yeah but i cant find it and i asked my family we dont have somehting that protect
17:55 <wrtlprnft> what about you just follow that damn LAN cable and tell me where it leads to?
17:56 <HIM> our room its a room with a box and cable that leads to my computer
17:57 <wrtlprnft> well, what kind of box is it?
17:57 <HIM> its a box with a cble that lead to our telephone
17:58 <HIM> but we have broadband
17:58 <wrtlprnft> now what's printed on the box?
17:58 <wrtlprnft> company name, model number, anything?
17:59 <HIM> i dont know
17:59 <HIM> wait i should look
17:59 <HIM> topcom xplorer 874A
18:00 <HIM> hallo?
18:01 <wrtlprnft> sec
18:01 <wrtlprnft> http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Topcom/Xplorer870+/F-22_Lightning_3.htm
18:01 <wrtlprnft> it's for a slightly different model, but it should be fine
18:03 <wrtlprnft> note that you *only* need to forward port 4534, not the others
18:04 <HIM> but is default port open for my server
18:05 <HIM> haha i dont know what the password and username is
18:06 <MaZuffeR> try username: admin and password: password
18:07 <wrtlprnft> By default the username is admin, and the password is 12345678. Click the Ok button to log in to your router.
18:07 <wrtlprnft> that's what the page says
18:07 <wrtlprnft> that's one of the main reason i wanted to know your router model, I could have guessed the IP
18:07 <HIM> mazuffer it worked thanks
18:07 <MaZuffeR> yw
18:08 <HIM> but then when im in what should i do
18:09 <wrtlprnft> look for “port forwarding” or “applications/gaming” or something similar
18:09 <luke-jr> omg
18:09 <luke-jr> this is why we need Upnp support =p
18:09 <wrtlprnft> or “inbound servers”
18:11 <HIM> cant find something about that
18:11 <wrtlprnft> HIM: what about a screenshot of the main screen?
18:12 <HIM> nja
18:12 <luke-jr> HIM: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
18:13 <HIM> i dont want to pay for server hosting
18:13 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i win :P
18:13 <luke-jr> HIM: well then learn to be competent with computers :)
18:14 <wrtlprnft> become a 1337 h@xx0R to run an arma server ;)
18:16 <wrtlprnft> what the f***
18:16 <HIM> status|quick start|configuration|save config what should i go in to
18:16 <luke-jr> Config
18:16 <HIM> and then
18:16 <luke-jr> ...
18:16 <HIM> Wan|Lan|system|firewall|virtual server|advanced what should i do
18:16 <luke-jr> HIM: next step is to place your fingers in your ears, and run around outside screaming
18:16 <luke-jr> eh, try virtual server :p
18:16 <wrtlprnft> this darn DHCP thing keeps overwriting my nameserver
18:17 <wrtlprnft> with a nameserver that appears to be down, that is
18:17 <HIM> ok what port should i open
18:17 <luke-jr> ............
18:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: dhcp_eth0=nodns
18:17 <HIM> can someone script in mirc :P
18:17 <luke-jr> [17:03:32] <wrtlprnft> note that you *only* need to forward port 4534, not the others
18:17 <luke-jr> mIrc sucks
18:18 <wrtlprnft> HIM: 4534
18:18 <HIM> ok it should work know
18:18 <wrtlprnft> and select UDP, not TCP
18:18 <luke-jr> HIM: "now" doesn't have a 'k'
18:19 <HIM> ?
18:19 <HIM> XD
18:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: in theory i like the idea of the nameserver reverting if i reboot the computer, in the hope that my provider's nameserver will be fixed
18:19 <wrtlprnft> but it shouldn't revert 5 minutes after i changed it
18:20 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I'd never suggest using ISP nameservers
18:20 <luke-jr> they're generally broken
18:20 <wrtlprnft> HIM: can't connect. is the server running and did you press “OK“ or “add” or whatever in the router config?
18:20 <HIM> if someone need help with this channel i can help im good at script in mirc and javascript
18:20 <luke-jr> mirc sucks
18:20  * wrtlprnft uses IRSSI, even though luke-jr thinks that sucks, too
18:20 <HIM> i pressed add
18:21 <luke-jr> no, irssi is decent
18:21 <wrtlprnft> and is there an ok button, too? router configs are awkward sometimes
18:21 <wrtlprnft> the best is to close it and open it again and see if your changes were saved
18:21 <luke-jr> #insult HIM
18:21 <armabot> HIM - You are nothing but a humid puddle of dizzy-eyed entrails. 
18:22 <HIM> armabot lol
18:22 <MaZuffeR> HIM: press save config
18:22 <HIM> i have done
18:22 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i remember you saying something different
18:23 <HIM> ~[xS]~HÎM
18:23 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: just because I can't use it doesn't mean it isn't decent
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18:27 <luke-jr> how rude
18:27 <luke-jr> not even a "thanks"
18:28 <luke-jr> oh fun
18:28 <luke-jr> trunk doesn't compile
18:28 <luke-jr> make: *** No rule to make target `ax_boost_base.m4', needed by `Makefile.in'.  Stop.
18:29  * luke-jr reconfigures
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18:45 <spidey> man
18:45 <spidey> i just gave the electronics section of my room a makeover >.>
18:46 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: yeah, got that too, rebootstrapping and reconfiguring helped
18:46 <wrtlprnft> spidey: threw it out of the window?
18:47 <spidey> that would have saved sooooooooo much time
18:47 <spidey> =/
18:47 <wrtlprnft> !#@$ name server!
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18:47 <spidey> they need like
18:48 <spidey> a way to install *nix while windows is running
18:48 <spidey> that'd own
18:48 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Thoughtless&rcid=15299
18:48 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:49 <wrtlprnft> > Anything the person directing you here would have written personally would have been a lot less polite.
18:49 <wrtlprnft> indeed
18:50 <spidey> lol
18:50  * wrtlprnft is waiting for z-man to use it
18:50 <wrtlprnft> i can guess where he wants to us it.
18:50 <spidey> haha
18:51 <spidey> hm
18:51 <spidey> does the wiki have a article on portforwording ? :p
18:51 <spidey> since that's like 50% of the problem half the time
18:51 <spidey> lol
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18:54 <wrtlprnft> spidey: sure
18:54 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/FAQ#I_did_that.2C_but_my_server_still_is_not_listed._What_else_can_be_wrong.3F
18:55 <spidey> btw
18:56 <spidey> most nats don't allow you to connect to your external ip, so if someone is behind a router and did do that, they might not still be able to connect, if they try to connect from the master list :p
18:56 <spidey> i know mine doesn't :/
18:56 <wrtlprnft> handled on the wiki as well
18:56 <spidey> yea just read it ;x
18:56 <wrtlprnft> stupid broken boxes. Mine works fine :)
18:57 <spidey> lol
18:57 <spidey> it's not a box :p
18:57 <spidey> if i used a box for a router, sure i could to :p
18:57 <wrtlprnft> it came in a box, probably
18:57 <spidey> lol
18:58 <wrtlprnft> box = piece of dumb electronical equipment
18:58 <spidey> well
18:58 <spidey> my server's just a tower, a power cord, and a ethernet cord
18:58 <spidey> so it's a "box" :p
18:59 <wrtlprnft> what proves that it isn't dumb?
18:59 <spidey> it can do math :D
19:00 <wrtlprnft> can it do a mathematical prove?
19:00 <guru3> proof
19:00 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:00 <spidey> lol
19:00 <wrtlprnft> sorry
19:00 <spidey> sure
19:01  * spidey fires up the caculator
19:01 <wrtlprnft> let it prove tan(x) = sin(x) * (cos(x))^(-1)
19:01 <spidey> o.O
19:02 <spidey> hm
19:02 <spidey> wtf
19:02 <spidey> my internal ip's changed
19:02 <spidey> yet i plugged them back into the same ports >.>
19:09 <luke-jr> ports have nothing to do with IPs
19:09 <luke-jr> dummy
19:26 <spidey> sure they do
19:26 <spidey> if i didn't boot my other computer before this one
19:26 <spidey> this one should be assigned the next ip in the pool, right?
19:29 <luke-jr_work> nope
19:29 <luke-jr_work> wrong
19:30 <luke-jr_work> first, it should see if they're assigned a static IP and give that
19:31 <luke-jr_work> then, it should see if the requested IP is within the valid range, and if so authorize that
19:31 <luke-jr_work> if there's none of those, then it can do something sequential/random and pick one
19:32 <luke-jr_work> and use that if it's not already leased or if it doesn't respond to a ping
19:32 <luke-jr_work> but never does it have anything to do with what port the cable is plugged into
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19:36 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wb
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21:10 <wrtlprnft> finally that stupid nameserver's back up
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21:27 <wrtlprnft> and down again…
21:30 <Commn> wrtl
21:31 <Commn> did you ever get vanhayes' recordings?
21:31 <Commn> are they up somewhere?
21:35 <Commn> wrtlprnft
21:35 <Commn> you alive?
21:35 <Commn> heh
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21:41 <wrtlprnft> no
21:41 <wrtlprnft> and no
21:45 <wrtlprnft> dunno what happened to it, but i didn't get any email >1MB lately
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21:50 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft:it wont send it to your email for some reason, tried a few times yesturday but it kept sending me a failure notice
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21:53 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: go grab my first and last name from the AUTHORS file, take the first name, a dot, the last name, add an @ and “web.de”
21:56 <luke-jr> ...
21:56 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: paranoid?
21:56 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wrtlprnft: du bist deutscher? :P
21:56 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: hmm I didnt get a failure notice this time, did you get it?
21:57 <luke-jr_work> hm
21:57 <wrtlprnft> [Xpert]DarkStar: jep
21:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hrhr
21:57 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: do you work at home or are you just really fast?
21:58 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: you maybe don't have the amount of spam i have
21:58 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: yeah, something big is coming
21:58 <Vanhayes> ah ok
21:58 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes, fast?
21:58 <luke-jr_work> oh, hah
21:58 <luke-jr_work> I'm working at home today, yeah
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21:58 <Vanhayes> heh i was gonna say it took you 2 minutes to get to work
21:58 <luke-jr_work> :)
21:58 <luke-jr_work> usually it's 20-30 min
21:59 <wrtlprnft> nice, already bz2'ed
22:00 <wrtlprnft> at least i hope it is
22:01 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: http://wrtlprnft.servegame.org/~mathias/ssvstm.aarec.txt.bz2
22:01 <wrtlprnft> feel free to post it where you want
22:02 <wrtlprnft> though actually i should have uploaded it to luke-jr_work's server, that would have saved me the traffic
22:02 <luke-jr_work> ...
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22:02 <luke-jr_work> as if my servers are better for that?
22:05 <wrtlprnft> well, the download doesn't need to be fast :P
22:05 <wrtlprnft> aaah, new stuff from voodoo, nice
22:06  * wrtlprnft wouldn't mind having him on the team officially, or at least ask him
22:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: so?
22:09 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: can you try what your value for GL_MAX_CLIP_PLANES is? It's absurdly high on my machine, and i hope it'll be at least 20 on others…
22:10 <luke-jr_work> wtf is that?
22:10 <wrtlprnft> nvm
22:10 <wrtlprnft> i'm wrong
22:11 <luke-jr_work> and who on the team?
22:11 <wrtlprnft> the constant is just a descriptor, you need to call a function to get the value
22:11 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i'll post later
22:12 <luke-jr> o
22:12 <wrtlprnft> he's doing some interesting map stuff
22:13 <luke-jr> who??
22:13 <wrtlprnft> 22:05 <wrtlprnft> aaah, new stuff from voodoo, nice
22:13 <wrtlprnft> 22:06  * wrtlprnft wouldn't mind having him on the team officially, or at least ask him
22:14 <luke-jr_work> voodoo is a guy?
22:15 <wrtlprnft> if emmanuel is a guy name…
22:15 <luke-jr> heh
22:22 <Vanhayes> well it does have the word man in it, id say its a guys name
22:25 <wrtlprnft> lol
22:27 <luke-jr_work> woman has the word man in it too
22:27 <luke-jr_work> :o
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> so?  idiot has the word luke in it, what's your point?
22:30 <luke-jr_work> bs
22:30 <wrtlprnft> that's why you say idi-luke-ot
22:31 <wrtlprnft> ;)
22:31 <luke-jr> OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.19-gentoo/x86_64 - CPU: 1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (2202.895 MHz) - Processes: 243 - Uptime:  21:31:43 up 34 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.75, 0.70, 1.48 - Memory Usage: 1119MB/2012MB (55%)
22:31 <luke-jr> :)
22:31 <luke-jr> no swap use now :p
22:32  * wrtlprnft has trouble filling up his 1GB
22:34 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft must not be a power user
22:34 <luke-jr> :P
22:34  * wrtlprnft uses enough power, don't worry
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> man, my 3 year old is talking a *lot*
22:46 <luke-jr> lol
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> new research shows morning sickness lowers the risk of miscarriage by almost 70 per cent.
22:55 <GodTodd> that makes sense if it's due to some kind of toxins or something
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know what it could be, but my wife puked her guts out with all 3 kids and had 3 relatively straightforward pregnancies
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22:57 <Lucifer_arma> it'll comfort her to know that all that puking amounted to something good :)
22:58 <GodTodd> well...our bodies usually are trying to get bad shit out when we puke
22:58 <GodTodd> they usually don't puke for the hell of it :)
22:58 <GodTodd> karen only had morning sickness when she tasted toothpaste
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but shit is a one-way path through the stomach, the baby's refuse is kept in the placenta and otten rid of only after the baby's born
22:59 <GodTodd> i lost a few toothbrushes that way
22:59 <GodTodd> right....but if the body is puking out toxins that could hurt the fetus then that would make a safer environment
22:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, there wasn't any single thing that caused my wife to puke.  She'd feel perfectly fine, so we'd screw, then she'd go puke
23:00 <GodTodd> i'd puke if i screwed you too :P
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> true, but that would tend to imply she's eating shit to begin with
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> nah, you'd just have the runs
23:00 <GodTodd> nah...there's a lot of ways we get toxins in the body
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, afaik, toxins and shit only get into your stomach through your mouth, although I seem to remember that your body will pull some toxins into the stomach and puke it out
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> but I read that in a remo williams book, so the source is questionable :)
23:01 <GodTodd> heh
23:01 <GodTodd> we breathe in toxins all the time
23:01 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: my wife didn't even get morning sickness
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> still, it does make sense that your body could be bringing toxins into the stomach from other parts and puking it, then morning sickness would be a good thing
23:02 <GodTodd> not to mention that a "toxin" could be a dormant virus that the host never comes down with
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> and you get toxins even as a byproduct of regular digestion
23:02 <GodTodd> yep
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: then she didn't have a 70% reduction in her chances of a miscarriage
23:02 <luke-jr> heh
23:03  * Lucifer_arma notes the study doesn't say "if you don't get morning sickness, you'll miscarry"
23:03 <luke-jr> not from that at least
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, if god wanted her to have a kid, he couldn't very well let her miscarry, now could he?
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> it's only us satan-worshippers that have to worry about that stuff
23:04 <luke-jr> true
23:04 <luke-jr> :)
23:04 <GodTodd> heh...there must be a god....luke got laid at least once....explain that one without alcohol or divine intervention 
23:04 <GodTodd> :)
23:04 <GodTodd> insanity, possibly, i suppose
23:05 <luke-jr> GodTodd: something wrong with insanity??
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, coincidence is all that's needed
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> besides, him saying he got laid doesn't make it true
23:05 <GodTodd> ooh...maybe it was immaculate conception
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, you know what they say about catholic girls...
23:05 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you're saying I'm immaculate?
23:05 <GodTodd> with their tiny little mustache?
23:05 <GodTodd> :)
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> :)
23:06 <GodTodd> luke-jr: no...i'm saying maybe you're a virgin and your wife got nailed by god
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> and worse yet, she probably liked it
23:06 <GodTodd> how do you dna test god?
23:06 <GodTodd> hmmm
23:06 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you're saying I'm God?
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> more importantly, could Luke's wife do Swedish with God?
23:06 <GodTodd> not at all
23:07 <luke-jr> GodTodd: why not?
23:07 <luke-jr> :p
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23:07 <luke-jr> ghableska: hi
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: that's blasphemy
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> evil blasphemer!
23:07 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd said it
23:07 <GodTodd> no, GodTodd said maybe you're a virgin and your wife got nailed by god
23:07 <GodTodd> read once before typing
23:07 <luke-jr> so you're saying not only am I God, but I'm a virgin who's had sex
23:08 <GodTodd> read once before typing
23:08 <ghableska> hi Lucifer_arma
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm a god
23:08 <GodTodd> i'm a god
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> my wife goes "oh god oh god oh god oh GOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!"
23:08 <GodTodd> <------------- see?
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> hi ghableska (hi there!) 
23:08 <luke-jr> I'm a king
23:08 <luke-jr> King of Missouri
23:08 <luke-jr> so there
23:09 <luke-jr> my subjects just aren't very loyal
23:09 <luke-jr> :(
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> Missouri's a monarchy?  no wonder they're so fucked up...
23:09 <ghableska> heh
23:09 <luke-jr> yep
23:09 <luke-jr> now it is
23:09 <luke-jr> :p
23:09 <GodTodd> that's like being king of oklahoma or kansas....nothing to brag about
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> king of a few cows, couple of trees, and a bunch of tumbleweeds
23:09 <luke-jr> Sean Murray is king of Ohio
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> Every daaaay!   And none of their mothers ever seem to knoowww
23:10 <GodTodd> was gonna say....now i have zappa in my head...thanks :/
23:10 <GodTodd> heh
23:10 <luke-jr> ...wtf?
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he's singing that whole song to me right now
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> such a wonderful singing voice, and used well on all that porn rock :)
23:11 <GodTodd> he was never fully understood
23:11 <GodTodd> won't be for a while
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> There's nothing like a Catholic girl, in the CYO, when they learn to blo-oow
23:13 <GodTodd> tho i've always been partial to the classic "why does it hurt when i pee"
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> heh
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> right after my wife and I got married, I went in the bathroom and sang that song
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> she freaked
23:14 <GodTodd> didn't he die of prostate cancer?
23:14 <GodTodd> heh, i bet
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> yeah :(
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> probably could have been saved with stem cell research!
23:15 <GodTodd> probably
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> another casualty in the war against decency
23:15 <GodTodd> so it's luke's fault
23:15 <GodTodd> :)
23:15 <luke-jr> adult stem cells maybe
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> only it did actually hurt when I peed.  It was an interesting couple of months right before we got married...
23:16 <GodTodd> damn...that was what...'93?
23:16 <GodTodd> '94 maybe?
23:16 <luke-jr> 1894
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> sounds about right, it was somewhere between 93 and 96 anyway
23:16 <GodTodd> i think i was at nmsua when he died
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> I was working at SOnic!
23:17 <GodTodd> so that'd put it between june of '93 and july of '94
23:17 <luke-jr> omg
23:17 <luke-jr> Sonic sucks
23:17 <GodTodd> luke-jr sucks
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> (December 21, 1940 – December 4, 1993) 
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa
23:18 <GodTodd> yeah...that sounds right :)
23:18 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6471 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/cockpit/ (cMap.cpp cMap.h):
23:18 <armabot> armagetronad: More stuff by voodoo: The clipping area of the map now stays fixed and doesn't
23:18 <armabot> armagetronad: turn thanks to some cool openGL functions. I wrapped the thing that defines the
23:18 <armabot> armagetronad: planes to clip into a class with virtual functions, so it will be possible to
23:18 <armabot> armagetronad: implement more clipping modes (like a circle) in the future.
23:18 <GodTodd> goddamn wrtl
23:18 <GodTodd> heh
23:19 <wrtlprnft> :P
23:20 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: wtf? I want it to rotate
23:21 <wrtlprnft> umm
23:21 <wrtlprnft> the whole thing?!
23:21 <luke-jr> um, yeah?
23:21 <wrtlprnft> it's just the clipping area
23:22 <luke-jr> eh?
23:22 <wrtlprnft> i suggest you check out the latest trunk and press cockpit key 1 a couple of times
23:22 <GodTodd> The PMRC proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver any real benefits to children, infringes the civil liberties of people who are not children, and promises to keep the courts busy for years dealing with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the proposal's design.
23:22 <wrtlprnft> though i guess i could add it as an option
23:22 <luke-jr> map-depedent?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> cockpit-dependent.
23:23 <luke-jr> ok :p
23:24 <GodTodd> cock-dependent?
23:24 <GodTodd> dirty people :P
23:24 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:24 <ghableska> O_o
23:24 <wrtlprnft> that's your interpretation
23:24 <wrtlprnft> dirty GodTodd.
23:24 <GodTodd> and?
23:24 <GodTodd> heh
23:25  * ghableska hands GodTodd a bible
23:25  * GodTodd already has one.
23:25 <Your_mom_arma> Whats wrong with something being rooster dependent, thats how i get breakfast
23:25 <luke-jr> lol
23:25  * wrtlprnft goes to amazon.com and orders 13 bibles for GodTodd, annonymously under his name, of course
23:25 <Your_mom_arma> chicken omlet
23:25 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma wins
23:25 <ghableska> heh
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> After being approached by a customer who offered him $100 to produce a suggestive tape for a stag party, Zappa and a female friend jokingly faked the "erotic" recording, which purported to contain the sounds of people having sex (which consisted of Frank and his friend jumping on the bed and making sex sounds). Unfortunately the customer was an undercover member of the Vice Squad and Zappa was jailed for ten days on
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> charges of supplying pornography. His entrapment and brief imprisonment left a permanent mark, and was a key event in the formation of his anti-authoritarian stance.
23:26 <GodTodd> well...actually...i don't think roosters are used at all in a chicken omlet
23:27 <luke-jr> wtf
23:27 <luke-jr> for only $100? easily bribed
23:27 <GodTodd> One of Frank's idols was comedian Lenny Bruce, and the original Mothers of Invention opened for him at his final performance. Before the show, Frank asked Lenny to sign his draft card. Apprehensive, Lenny declined.
23:27 <wrtlprnft> hmm, any ideas on how to convert a line in parametric form (a+r*u, where a and u are vectors) to a*x+b*y=-c?
23:28 <wrtlprnft> too tired to get out paper and pencil
23:28 <Your_mom_arma> i dont get what zappa did worth getting arrested
23:28 <GodTodd> he made a porno recording
23:28 <GodTodd> i guess
23:28 <GodTodd> heh
23:29 <Your_mom_arma> i know, how is that arrest worthy though
23:29 <GodTodd> because it is/was a witch hunt
23:29 <GodTodd> duh :P
23:30 <GodTodd> "A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians."
23:30 <GodTodd> - Frank Zappa
23:30 <luke-jr> how do I configure cockpit keys?
23:30  * wrtlprnft grumbles and goes massacring a piece of paper with his pencil
23:30 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: system settings
23:31 <wrtlprnft> misc stuff
23:31 <wrtlprnft> global keyboard config
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> he provided a recording that was sexually stimulating
23:31 <luke-jr> ...
23:31 <luke-jr> shouldn't it be per-player?
23:31 <luke-jr> in fact, why isn't cockpit_file per-player?
23:31 <Your_mom_arma> sexually stimulating is relative
23:31 <wrtlprnft> isn't currently
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> basically, it's like if a girl walks up to you and says "Wanna screw?" and you ask "How much?".  If she's a cop, you're soliciting for prostitution
23:31 <wrtlprnft> because the current per-player thing sucks anyways
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> you could just be kicking tires, but you've already committed a crime
23:32 <wrtlprnft> though it would be an idea to have an instance of the cockpit for every player
23:32 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ok, so DCT can fix it :p
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, the rules have lightened up a bit, and we can probably thank Zappa for it to some extent
23:32 <wrtlprnft> note that the current cockpit doesn't even work correctly in splitscreen with anything but 1 or 4 players
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> Your favorite band has a recording of people having sex on their third album :)
23:33 <Your_mom_arma> and i wouldnt have it any other way
23:33 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: nice
23:34 <wrtlprnft> thank voodoo for the actual graphics, me for making it configurable
23:34 <wrtlprnft> and jonathan for writing the map in the first place
23:34 <luke-jr> heh
23:34 <luke-jr> can I set a default mode? :p
23:34 <wrtlprnft> only in the cockpit file as of right now
23:34 <luke-jr> probably not
23:35 <luke-jr> that's one of those things we need DCT for
23:35 <wrtlprnft> just put your preferred mode at the top
23:35 <luke-jr> the cockpit could reference a made-up setting in the tree somewhere
23:35 <wrtlprnft> yeah, in fact i have a half-working implementation for that
23:35 <Your_mom_arma> no matter what you do your going to offend somebody
23:35 <luke-jr> if you're not Catholic, you're going to Hell
23:36  * luke-jr bets that offends a lot of people
23:36 <wrtlprnft> but it'll probably conflict with your plans big time, so i won't even bother to show you
23:36 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: for DCT?
23:36 <GodTodd> luke-jr: no...lies don't offend me
23:36 <wrtlprnft> no, for resource-specific settings
23:36 <Your_mom_arma> luke if you like the old cockpit download the one i made
23:36 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ah, read the DCT thread?
23:36  * wrtlprnft doesn't believe in hell, so luke-jr just talks a bunch of nonsense from my POW
23:36 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: I'm fine w/ the new one
23:36 <wrtlprnft> *POV
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> why should I be offended by someone telling me I'm going to hell?
23:36 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: your POV is pretty screwed up then :p
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> I've been saying it for years anyway.  Why would I want to go to heaven?  Heaven's ruled by a fascist dictator.
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> Concentration camps were invented in heaven
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> man only copied the design
23:37 <Your_mom_arma> tbrutal
23:37 <Your_mom_arma> i'ld rather go to hell then just not exist
23:38 <GodTodd> well....hitler was created in god's image ;)
23:38  * ghableska once again points to the link http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm
23:39 <wrtlprnft> just stfu and let me work on this f** conversion, will you?
23:39 <wrtlprnft> ;)
23:39 <Your_mom_arma> i dont like the born again catholics, it looks like a cult(moreso then some of the wakier relegions) to me
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> In 1980, Zappa helped former band members Warren Cuccurullo, 
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I didn't know Warren Cuccurullo was a real person!
23:39 <ghableska> 378. ARGUMENT FROM GEORGE W. BUSH 
23:39 <ghableska> (1) That god won't hunt. 
23:39 <ghableska> (2) Y'all. 
23:39 <ghableska> (3) Ergo, um, axle of evil, ahh, claridify, umm, supportification, ah, pretzel. 
23:39 <ghableska> (3) Y'all.
23:39 <ghableska> (4) What he said.
23:39 <ghableska> (5) Therefore, God existifies.
23:39 <ghableska> (2) Launch.
23:39 <ghableska> heh
23:39 <luke-jr> ROFL
23:41 <ghableska> 365. ARGUMENT FROM ANAL FRUSTRATION
23:41 <ghableska> (1) God my ASS!!
23:41 <ghableska> (2) My ass exists.
23:41 <ghableska> (3) Therefore, God exists.
23:42 <GodTodd> ARGUMENT FROM ALIENS
23:42 <GodTodd> (1) Everyone knows that aliens don't exist.
23:42 <GodTodd> (2) Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
23:42 <GodTodd> (3) Oh, but God's different!
23:42 <GodTodd> (4) Therefore, God exists
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> wow, I think I saw the crossfire episodes with Zappa arguing with the PMRC guys
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> cat shit exists, therefore there's a god of cat shit!
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr, God of Cat Shit
23:44 <GodTodd> # ARGUMENT FROM JESUS LOVES ME
23:44 <GodTodd> (1) Jesus loves me because the Bible says so.
23:44 <GodTodd> (2) If radiometric dating is valid, then Jesus might not love me after all because the Bible might not be literal truth.
23:44 <GodTodd> (3) That's unacceptable.
23:44 <GodTodd> (4) Therefore, radiometric dating is bogus, the Bible is literally true, Jesus loves me, and God exists.
23:44 <GodTodd> bahahaha
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> Jesus loves me with all his throat
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23:50 <wrtlprnft> hi
23:50 <luke-jr> hi
23:53 <Vanhayes> #hello
23:53 <armabot> Hello Vanhayes :) Random Fortune: Q: Why did the astrophysicist order three hamburgers? || A: Because he was hungry.
23:55 <Your_mom_arma> haha

Log from 2006-12-05:
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00:02 <Vanhayes> #f
00:03 <armabot> Random Fortune: There must be at least 500,000,000 rats in the United States; of course, || I never heard the story before.
00:03 <Vanhayes> I dont get it
00:03 <Vanhayes> #f
00:03 <armabot> Random Fortune: Keep me informed on the behaviour of this kernel.. As the "BugFree(tm)" || series didn't turn out too well, I'm starting a new series called the || "ItWorksForMe(tm)" series, of which this new kernel is yet another || shining example. || -- Linus, in the announcement for 1.3.29
00:04 <wrtlprnft> o_O
00:05 <Vanhayes> hmm
00:05 <Vanhayes> #i
00:05 <Vanhayes> #insight
00:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: The ignominious consumption of technological change will destabilize our future business models.
00:06 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
00:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Snow ending this evening then cloudy periods with 30 percent chance of flurries. Amount 10 cm. Wind northwest 20 km/h. Low minus 8.; Tuesday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 km/h. High minus 5. Tuesday night..a few (1 more message)
00:07 <Vanhayes> we finally got that cold front here, and now all the rain we were getting has turned into snow
00:07 <wrtlprnft> that's good.
00:07 <Vanhayes> about 10-15 cm now
00:07 <GodTodd> #g 10cm in in
00:07 <armabot> GodTodd: 10 centimeters = 3.93700787 in
00:07 <GodTodd> #g 15cm in in
00:07 <armabot> GodTodd: 15 centimeters = 5.90551181 in
00:08 <GodTodd> 4-6 inches...not bad
00:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: fix armabot so it sends all the lines :p
00:08 <Vanhayes> #more
00:08 <armabot> Vanhayes: clouds. Low minus 13.; Wednesday - Periods of snow or rain. High plus 2.;
00:08 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
00:09 <Vanhayes> #g -13 C in F
00:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: (-13) degrees Celsius = 8.6 degrees Fahrenheit
00:09 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 48.6°F (5:09 PM CST on December 04, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa. 
00:09 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: it sends as much as it can in one line
00:09 <luke-jr> so fix it
00:09 <wrtlprnft> it's not supposed to spam the channel w/ 50 lines of useless google results
00:09 <luke-jr> and it doesn't either
00:09 <wrtlprnft> there's nothing to fix, there's #more
00:09 <luke-jr> fortunes are trimmed at \n
00:10 <luke-jr> and they don't make sense that way
00:10 <GodTodd> kinda like luke
00:12 <luke-jr> If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by law.
00:12 <Vanhayes> A=A not B
00:12 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: they are?
00:12 <wrtlprnft> #f
00:12 <armabot> Random Fortune: BOFH Excuse #350: || paradigm shift...without a clutch
00:12 <wrtlprnft> #f
00:13 <Vanhayes> thats why its called A
00:13 <armabot> Random Fortune: "How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only || coded it." || (Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a posting)
00:13 <luke-jr> lol good one
00:13 <wrtlprnft> they aren't trimmed
00:13 <luke-jr> ...
00:13 <wrtlprnft> newlines are replaced by ||
00:13 <luke-jr> aha
00:13 <luke-jr> Konversation hides || and that following it
00:13 <luke-jr> weird
00:13 <wrtlprnft> 00:13 <armabot> Random Fortune: "How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only || coded it." || (Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a posting)
00:14 <wrtlprnft> fix your IRC client?
00:14 <luke-jr> I saw it in yours
00:14 <luke-jr> sure there's no colour codes getting in there?
00:14 <wrtlprnft> the || are bold
00:15 <wrtlprnft> supposed to be, my terminal emulation doesn't display bold text
00:15 <luke-jr> does it un-bold?
00:15 <wrtlprnft> should
00:15 <wrtlprnft> at least, if i access this screen from a windows pc w/ putty it looks right
00:16 <luke-jr> can you have armabot join #konversation plz?
00:16 <wrtlprnft> and in xterm it looks ok, too
00:16 <wrtlprnft> errm
00:16 <wrtlprnft> do they want armabot in there?
00:16 <luke-jr> hopefully
00:16 <wrtlprnft> well, you ask
00:16 <wrtlprnft> i watch
00:17 <wrtlprnft> don't want to have them kick me/armabot or get trouble w/ freenode staff
00:20 <wrtlprnft> #join #konversation
00:20 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:20 <wrtlprnft> #join #konversation
00:24 <wrtlprnft> #help f
00:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (f <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Random Fortune: [rss [echo http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/fortune.php?$randomint]]".
00:24 <wrtlprnft> #rss
00:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
00:24 <wrtlprnft> #rss                [echo http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/fortune.php?$randomint]
00:24 <armabot> Kansas state law requires pedestrians crossing the highways at night to || wear tail lights.
00:24 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: does this appear correctly?
00:25 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ?
00:25 <luke-jr> yeah
00:25 <Vanhayes> hmm is that true?
00:26 <luke-jr> no clue
00:26 <Vanhayes> anyone live in kansas?
00:26 <luke-jr> a road I take to work is on the state line
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> my brother lives in kansas
00:26 <Lucifer_arma> *one of my brothers
00:26 <luke-jr> Kansas City is like 20% in Kansas
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> I've driven through Kansas a couple of times
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> one time I stopped to kick the shit out of some born-again catholic kid.  Found out later that was luke-jr (hi there!) 
00:28 <Vanhayes> Im sure he had it coming
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> hey Vanhayes (hi there!) , you missed it.  I invaded Luke :)
00:29 <luke-jr> Chapter 272 of the Massachusetts General Laws states, for example:
00:29 <luke-jr> Section 36. Whoever wilfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, His creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more
00:29 <luke-jr> than one year or by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars, and may also be bound to good behavior.
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> don't they let gay people love each other for life in Massachussetts?
00:30 <Vanhayes> old law?
00:30 <luke-jr> hope not
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they let gay people get married there.  The idiot governor's trying to get it reversed somehow by doing an end-run around the people
00:30 <Vanhayes> might take a trip to massachussetts to test it
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> wear a t-shirt that says "Jesus loves me with all his throat"
00:31 <Vanhayes> the god thing, not the gay thing
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> and in the ensuing invasion, I captured both cities where he built wonders, and he retook one of them, but it was a 1 point city, so it was destroyed
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> s/invasion/battle
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> why he let me keep the other city when I withdrew most of my units to protect one city as a beachhead and basically conceded 3-4 cities to him, I'll never know
00:33 <luke-jr> In one Michigan case, a man who let loose a stream of curses after falling out of a canoe in 1999 was convicted of violating a law against cursing in front of women and children. He was fined US$75 and ordered to perform four days of community service.
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> man, I curse all the time
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> "You're not cleaning your room, you're fucking off!  Quit fucking off and fucking clean your room!"
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> so I asked my kid a few weeks ago, "What are you doing?  You're supposed to be cleaning your room."
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> He said "I'm fucking off"
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> 6 years old.  heh
00:35 <luke-jr> you should go to jail
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> why?  for telling my kids to clean their rooms?
00:35 <luke-jr> for irresponsible parenting
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> because having kids clean their rooms is irresponsible?
00:36 <luke-jr> * Washington state has a law against having sex with a virgin... even on her/his wedding night. 
00:36 <Vanhayes> swearing never he=urt anyone
00:36 <Vanhayes> uh, wouldnt that mean no one would have sex if they followed the law?
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you'll probably have a hard time proving I'm an irresponsible parent.  I might have methods you disagree with, but on the other hand I think you should be strung up for taking your kid to church
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> nothing is more damaging than forcing religion on an innocent kid
00:37 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: unless they left the state first
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> that's abusive behavior, and parents who do it should be shot, plain and simple
00:37 <luke-jr> Catherine comes willingly :)
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> feeding kids candy is also abusive, especially if you expect them to behave afterwards
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, she doesn't know any better.  She's what, a year now?
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> She can't be expected to make a responsible decision on the matter, that's why you're being irresponsible
00:38 <luke-jr> It's a good thing. There is no better.
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> kids are psychologically incapable of understanding religion until they're at least 12
00:38 <luke-jr> irrelevant
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> all you do is confuse and indoctrinate them
00:38 <luke-jr> indoctrination is only bad when its used to teach falsehoods
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter once said "Daddy's just saying that because he knows I believe in God.  I also believe in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny"
00:39 -!- j0h4nn3s [n=j@i577B9A96.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, you're teaching her falsehoods, and she'll be scarred for life because of it
00:39 <luke-jr> nonsense
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> you should be hung by your neck until your feet quit kicking
00:39 -!- j0h4nn3s is now known as wejp
00:39 <Vanhayes> I love luke-jr's arguments
00:40  * Lucifer_arma notes that a religious household is much more likely to have physically and sexually abusive parents than a non-religious household
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> self-righteousness is bad
00:41 <luke-jr> only if you define 'religious' to include false religions
00:42 <Your_mom_arma> luke how can you prove other religions are wrong when religions are based on beliefs one can not prove?
00:42 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: Catholicism can be proven, given time
00:43 <Your_mom_arma> explain
00:43 <luke-jr> It is possible to prove Catholicism as true
00:43 <luke-jr> it is easier to prove other religions as false
00:44 <Your_mom_arma> prove away
00:44 <luke-jr> no thanks, that'd take days at the very least to address every doctrine
00:44 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: your wrong
00:44 <Vanhayes> no 
00:44 <Vanhayes> er
00:45 <Your_mom_arma> note that when i offer him the chance to prove himself he refuses
00:45 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: now, if you were to state a specific doubt about Catholicism, that might be more practical
00:45 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: it's easier to disprove the false religions than to prove all of Catholicism
00:45 <luke-jr> it's called elimination
00:46 <Your_mom_arma> fine, disprove buhdism
00:46 <luke-jr> you disprove them until there's only one left
00:46 <Your_mom_arma> pfft
00:46 <luke-jr> of course, another approach would be proving Catholicism through miracles
00:47 <luke-jr> since miracles have always come from the Church
00:47 <luke-jr> but that doesn't work when people discount history
00:47 <Your_mom_arma> what if i lined up 10 blocks and asked you to find the blue one you go down the line proving that 1-9 is red that must mean 10 is blue, but its still red
00:48 <luke-jr> then you're making the claim that there is no truth, which is clearly impossible
00:48 <luke-jr> or that it is impossible to know the truth, which makes life meaningless
00:48 <Your_mom_arma> luke do you really believe a 40 year old woman seeing an angel on her piece of toast is a miracle?
00:48 <luke-jr> however, disproving atheism is also implicitly showing that life cannot be meaningless
00:49 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: no, I would say it didn't happen
00:49 <luke-jr> However, I would say the Sun moving outside of its natural pattern is
00:49 <luke-jr> as well as the crowd witnessing being dried up so quickly
00:50 <luke-jr> not to mention when the Eucharist bleeds fresh 2000 year old blood
00:50 <luke-jr> etc
00:50 <Your_mom_arma> what
00:51 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: there are many well documented miracles witnessed by multitudes
00:51 <luke-jr> don't forget about the Saints whose bodies have never decomposed
00:51 <Vanhayes> have you seen their bodies?
00:52 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: myself, I haven't left the US yet
00:52 <Your_mom_arma> yeah, i've also seen david blane float, that doesnt meant he can float
00:52 <luke-jr> anyone can float
00:52 -!- wejp_ [n=j@i577BA452.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:53 <luke-jr> last I checked, kids were taught to float on their back as part of regular education
00:53 <Your_mom_arma> well teach me how to do it without machines or tricks
00:53 <luke-jr> ...
00:53 <Vanhayes> or water
00:53 <Your_mom_arma> cheap
00:53 <luke-jr> floating w/o water? wtf
00:53 <Your_mom_arma> i ment float in the air
00:54 <luke-jr> that's "hover"
00:54 <Your_mom_arma> like hover
00:54 <luke-jr> float means on the surface of a fluid
00:54 <luke-jr> air isn't fluid
00:54 <Your_mom_arma> #dict float
00:54 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Float \Float\, v. t. 1. To cause to float; to cause to rest or move on the surface of a fluid; as, the tide floated the ship into the harbor. [1913 Webster] Had floated that bell on the Inchcape rock. --Southey. [1913 Webster] 2. To flood; to overflow; to cover with water. [1913 Webster] Proud Pactolus floats the fruitful lands. --Dryden. [1913 Webster] (18 more messages)
00:54 <Your_mom_arma> you win this time
00:54 <luke-jr> lol
00:54 <Your_mom_arma> you kknew what i ment though
00:55 <luke-jr> not really
00:55 <luke-jr> I was wondering wtf you were amazed at
00:55 <luke-jr> but hovering is hardly a miracle
00:55 <luke-jr> even when it defies science, it could even be demonic in nature
00:56 <luke-jr> IIRC, possessed people often hover
00:56 <Your_mom_arma> so your saying magicians are evil?
00:56 <luke-jr> it wouldn't surprise me if many are
00:56 <Your_mom_arma> He's a witch!
00:56 <Vanhayes> ... possesed people
00:56 <Your_mom_arma> luke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=418avmwfx3Y
00:57 <Your_mom_arma> so that guys possesed by the devil?
00:57 <luke-jr> no clue, maybe he's using tricks
00:58 <luke-jr> but it's certainly no guarantee that he's holy
00:58 <Your_mom_arma> i didnt say he was
00:58 <Your_mom_arma> i said believing he could would be similar to believing in miracles
00:59 <luke-jr> Non-belief in miracles is just plain ignorance or denial
00:59 <Your_mom_arma> believe a quarter of what you hear and half of what you see
00:59 <Your_mom_arma> luke ever watched mythbusters?
01:01 <luke-jr> never heard of it
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> meh im bored with arguing with luke
01:01 <luke-jr> 70,000 witnesses to the Fatima miracle
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> its like arguing with someone whos been brainwashed
01:01 <luke-jr> were they all on pot?
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> yes, they were
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> specific doubt about catholicism: I doubt that the god of the Catholics is a real entity
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> was the Fatima miracle the one where Oprah got skinny?
01:18 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> In 1992 details relating to the apparitions, which had previously been unreleased, were finally revealed. A priest who had interviewed the children at the time of the apparitions reported their description of the Lady wearing a short skirt, earrings and a necklace with a medallion.[14] This did not accord with the norms[15] of modesty expected of the Blessed Virgin and was not included in the official reports at the time.
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> "Jacinta declares that Our Lady's dress goes down only to her knees. Our Lady can only appear dressed, obviously, in the most decent and modest way. The dress would have to come down to her feet. Any other way constitutes the most serious obstacle to the supernaturalism of the apparition and makes us think that it is a mystification prepared by the Spirit of Darkness. But how can we explain the belief of so many thousands
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> of people, their living faith and burning piety, the modesty and the composure they show in all their acts, the silence and behavior of the crowd, the numerous and astonishing conversions caused by the events, the appearance of extraordinary signs in the sky and on the earth, verified by thousands of witnesses? How can we explain, I repeat, all these facts and conciliate them with divine providence and the laws that rule
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> the supernatural world, above all after the establishment of Christianity, if the Demon is the cause of such events? (Documentação, Doc. 7, pp. 66–67, cited in Armada and Fernandes, p. 190)
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> this is all about the Fatima miracle, btw
01:24 <Your_mom_arma> "The children wore tight cords around their waists to cause pain, abstained from drinking water on hot days, and performed other works of penance."-about the children who saw the miracle
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> The short dress worn by the Virgin during the apparitions did not form part of any official description released at the time, instead ,and in sharp contrast, the Virgin was reported as saying: "Certain fashions will be introduced which will offend my Son (Jesus) very much."
01:24 <Your_mom_arma> im quite sure abused children would see "miracles"
01:26 <luke-jr> right, a non-Catholic "priest" claims to have interviewed the children and be told such things, AFTER THE CHILDREN ARE DEAD and thus cannot accuse him
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> so have you guys managed to play player team vs player team civ yet
01:26 <Lucifer_arma> it was probably some woman working as a socialist.  This was 1917, the red revolution was going on in Russia, and socialist movements were going throughout europe
01:26 <luke-jr> he is the only witness to his claims
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> you should check the references on the wikipedia page yourself
01:27 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: nobody said the children were forced to do those things btw
01:27 <luke-jr> the fact that they were works of penence implies they did so of their own free will
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> but it could also hide the fact that they were ordered to by some idiot catholic adult
01:27 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: it was "revealed" in 1992
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> and as idiot catholic adults tend to put it, "Do it my way or go to hell, it's your choice!", which we know damn well is no choice
01:28 <luke-jr> all the children were dead, and the priest was most likely non-Catholic and lying
01:28 <luke-jr> certainly the only witness to his claims
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01:28 <Lucifer_arma> so?  It was part of the accounts that were covered up by the church
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> look if they did that on their own accord they had to of had some kind of mental anguish or disability
01:28 <luke-jr> it wasn't, it was made up
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> the priest who did the interviewing was somebody different than the priest who released the account in 1992
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> written accounts made at the time something happened can be hidden and revealed later.  If you don't believe that, you'll have to disregard 90% of your bible
01:29 <Your_mom_arma> btw the third secret sounds like an end of the world prediction that didnt come true
01:29 <luke-jr> where's the written account?
01:29 <luke-jr> Your_mom_arma: the third secret has already happened
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> hell, it could have been some socialist chick that used fancy fireworks effects to appear as a miracle worker to a people who felt very oppressed under the rise of freemasonry in Portugal
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: kept by the catholic church somewhere
01:30 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: then how did a non-Catholic get it?
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> I told *you* the check the references because I don't care enough about it to do it myself
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> because it was released to the public.  Even the catholic church occasionally declassifies shit and releases it to the public.
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01:32  * Lucifer_arma notes there's a lot more evidence supporting alien abductions, why do people believe the Fatima miracle but not alien abductions?
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> I met a guy who gave me an eyewitness account of being abducted by aliens
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> do I believe he was abducted by aliens?
01:32 <luke-jr> 70,000 who can give a compatible witness of the same event?
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> yep
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> read about the UFO crash in Roswell :)
01:32 <Your_mom_arma> burn
01:33 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/rubber/death-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
01:33 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/rubber/win-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
01:33 <ghableska> are we still on religion?
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> besides, if 70k people give a compatible witness of an event, it's questionable.  People's points of views differ too much.  For any real event, there must be contradiction in 70,000 different peoples' accounts for it to be credible
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> we're trying to move into alien abductions :)
01:34 <ghableska> ah, at least a little more plausible ;)
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> :)
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> my mother-in-law has seen alien spaceships come down to earth twice in her life so far
01:35 <ghableska> lol
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> she also talks to Jesus every day.  Coincidence?
01:35 <ghableska> heh
01:35 <ghableska> wait, so that means aliens are god's children or whatever?
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> aliens would disprove god, because they're not mentioned at all in the bible, and only things mentioned in the bible are real
01:35 <ghableska> heh
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> everything that originates on this planet is implicitly mentioned in the bible, but aliens by definition are not from this planet
01:36 <Your_mom_arma> lucifer preists can bend words to mean different things so im not so sure of that
01:36 <ghableska> if aliens were discovered, they might just be called "angels"
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> ?  they don't have to bend the words at all, they just need to make new "translations"
01:36 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:37 <ghableska> was limbo abolished?
01:37 <Your_mom_arma> there probobly are aliens out there somewhere but i cant say whether they've been to earth or not
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> ask nemo, it's his server
01:37 <luke-jr> Limbo is doctrine
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's pretty limo
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> *limbo
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> *limber
01:38 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:38 <Lucifer_arma> limbo rhymes with bimbo.  Coincidence?
01:39 <ghableska> hahahahaha
01:40 <Your_mom_arma> so have you guys managed a game of team player v player civ yet?
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> not yet
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> I just declared my intention last night of fighting with humans again by invading luke-jr (hi there!) 
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> the ais are all boring now.  I still want ais, don't get me wrong, but I don't want to do humans vs ais by default anymore
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I think we should be more careful about how we treat alliances in the future, and now that we know that allies can win together, maybe we can still have less betrayals
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> whenever humans have fought humans before, there's been alliance betrayals that soured the game.  I suspect that if we're careful about that stuff, we can avoid it.
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> basically it amounts to not using an alliance with a person to take advantage of them and run a sneak attack (I've said all this before)
01:43 <Lucifer_arma> and not forming alliances with people you intend to invade knowing you'll invade them, and maybe the rest of us can agree to go after people who do that shit
01:44 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I don't break alliances
01:44 <luke-jr> and I ally with AIs all the time
01:45 <luke-jr> so generally, my allies are people nearby me
01:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, I haven't broken any alliances in awhile :)
01:54 <luke-jr> liar
02:02 <Lucifer_arma> awhile is relative, but I haven't broken any alliances since I sneak attacked you in that one game
02:02 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:02 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 24.8°F (6:54 PM CST on December 04, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa. 
02:02 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM AST; Tonight - Snow ending this evening then cloudy periods with 30 percent chance of flurries. Wind northwest 20 km/h. Low minus 8.; Tuesday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 km/h. High minus 5. Tuesday night..a few clouds. Low (1 more message)
02:02 <Vanhayes> #more
02:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: minus 13.; Wednesday - Periods of snow or rain. High plus 2.;
02:05 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
02:05 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 46.4°F (7:04 PM CST on December 04, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029.0 hPa. 
02:07  * Lucifer_arma has also never broken an alliance with spidey (hi there!) 
02:07  * Lucifer_arma has had alliances with Your_mom_arma (hi there!) break as collateral damage, though.
02:07 <ghableska> nice tab completion
02:08  * Vanhayes has broken every alliance with luke that he can remember
02:10 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: you broke alliance with me last night
02:11 <Vanhayes> mostly because he usually has little or no def and always settles on or way to close to my land, even when I tell him not to
02:11 <luke-jr> that's a dumb expectation
02:11 <luke-jr> alliance means you're united together
02:11 <Vanhayes> that my ally will respect my border?
02:11 <luke-jr> eg, one country more or less
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: we didn't have an alliance last night
02:12 <luke-jr> yes we did
02:12 <luke-jr> or was that Dutch
02:12 <luke-jr> O.o
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> that was dutch
02:12 <luke-jr> o
02:12 <Lucifer_arma> we only had peace because I didn't want you to figure out I was going to attack you :)
02:12 <luke-jr> now the part that annoyed me was
02:12 <luke-jr> I had almost attacked you 2 or 3 times thinking you were someone else
02:13 <luke-jr> then I find out I should have
02:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, that was your own problem.  I joined that game for one and only one reason, to annihilate you.
02:13 <luke-jr> so you lied
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> ?  yeah, I did do some dishonest things, but I didn't ally with you and use an alliance against you
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> I got shared vision from the sumerians, who had it with you, and that's it.
02:14 <luke-jr> and made a peace treaty with me
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> I also lied on the ceasefire, I've got enough troops now in your land that when the ceasefire's over, I'll walk all over what's left
02:14 <luke-jr> you think
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> 20 howitzers is pretty convincing
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> ~10 artillery
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> the artillery's obsolete, obviously
02:15 <luke-jr> not if I move all my mech inf to one city
02:15 <Vanhayes> ha
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> good luck
02:15 <luke-jr> not to mention, that's only one part of my land
02:15 <Vanhayes> what a plan
02:16 <Lucifer_arma> you might hold out in that one city for a little while, but I'm putting out 4 howitzers every 2 turns on my homeland
02:16 <Lucifer_arma> and in two of the cities I took from you, I'm putting out howitzers every 3 turns
02:16 <luke-jr> no surprise there
02:16 <luke-jr> you took my best cities
02:16 <luke-jr> which were admittedly undefended as I usually do
02:16 <Lucifer_arma> and while I don't know where you've settled since I declared war on you, I did have an up to date map of all of your territory the same turn I invaded
02:16  * luke-jr usually sets those to produce Mech Inf and fortify them all there
02:16 <Lucifer_arma> you've got to understand, the units I sent to your homeland were a suicidal force
02:17 <luke-jr> yes, but you're not prepared to even attack that
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> they weren't expected to live :)
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> I've got the logistics train to hit all of your cities, but it will take a few turns to get it rolling against your southern cities
02:17 <luke-jr> you think
02:17 <Lucifer_arma> but you're land-connected to an area very near mine, so I can railroad my way to you and won't have to supply by ship
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> I've got 5 transports, and I only stopped there because it's all I need to fight where I'm fighting
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> I had 23 submarines when we quit last night :)
02:19 <Vanhayes> so are all the freeciv games from now on going to be that big?
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> 2 of them are fully loaded with missiles, but I'll switch missile production to bombers when I start preparing to hit your other cities
02:19 <luke-jr> wait what
02:19 <luke-jr> subs can hold missiles??
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> bombers are more useful for long-range campaigns than missiles, I've decided
02:19 <Lucifer_arma> yes
02:20 <GodTodd> submarines are the ones that like being on bottom
02:20  * Lucifer_arma is a submarine
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> what did you think I hit you with when I attaacked?
02:20 -!- Commn is now known as Compn
02:20 <luke-jr> I didn't know how they got nearby
02:20 <GodTodd> they're the bitches of the marine on marine relationship
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> I cleared the target cities with missiles, then used a marine to take the coastal city I needed
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> then I moved the transport in it and unloaded
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> when you do that, you get full movement of the units on it
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> that's how I broke in and took 4 cities in one turn
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it was more, I forget.  I only know that the next turn I withdrew all my units to defend the one coastal city so I could bring more units in
02:21 <luke-jr> you could have unloaded them on land and I probably wouldn't have noticed..
02:21 <Lucifer_arma> That was after you destroyed Kyoto, where most of your wonders were, and I decided not to try to hold a city that didn't exist anymore
02:22 <luke-jr> erm
02:22 <luke-jr> I didn't destroy it
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> Kyoto was my primary target, and the forces didn't have to survive the ttack :)
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, when you went to reoccupy it it was destroyed
02:22 <Lucifer_arma> I knocked it to 1 point when I took it, and you retook it and destroyed it
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> so while I didn't get the wonders for myself, their usage was denied to everybody, which was an acceptable result
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> also, I can't see cities in the diplomacy dialog, so I'm not likely to accept treaties with people I'm at war with
02:24 <Lucifer_arma> that also means I didn't know you were giving me a city for the cease fire
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> I would have removed the city from the treaty if I'd see it, sorry about that
02:27 <luke-jr> o
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> and since we were at war, I couldn't really trust you to read the dialog to me
02:28 <luke-jr> the Alliance one had 2-3 cities
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> there's no telling, you could have sneaked some of my own cities into it, heh
02:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe I'll fire up my regular client for treaties like that.  I wish I knew why the warclient doesn't show cities or techs, though.
02:29 <luke-jr> *g*
02:29 <luke-jr> that wouldn't been fun
02:29 <luke-jr> next time remind me to steal all your cities :p
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'm in agreement with spidey (hi there!) .  Fighting the ais is getting boring, I want to fight humans instead, but I don't want to have alliances break down like they did at first.
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not saying alliances can't break down, just that I want it to happen without souring the game.
02:30 <luke-jr> I don't want to fight :p
02:30 <GodTodd> heh...that leaves luke out
02:30 <GodTodd> afaik
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> and after a sneak attack, I think a cease fire should be given if it's asked for.  That's the main reason I gave you a cease-fire, and have honored it, and will honor it.
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you were a more reliable ally, you could back me in a fight.  Do whatever you want, just feed me techs for fighting.
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> But Vanhayes (hi there!) is right, as an ally you always infringe on other people's spaces
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> we establish borders, claim islands and shit, and you don't respect them
02:32 <luke-jr> I like to have cities near others
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> there's more to being a good ally than not attacking
02:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, we don't want our cities too close.  Connect them with roads/rail later, but honor the damn borders!
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> I like both Vanhayes (hi there!) and spidey (hi there!) as allies because I know that I can establish borders with them and they'll honor them
02:33 <luke-jr> and no, I won't honour "I claim that isle" right when I find it
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> why?
02:33 <luke-jr> can't do roads/rail when I'm not on the isle
02:33 <luke-jr> why? because I FOUND THE FSCKING PLACE
02:33 <luke-jr> if you want it, get a settler there
02:34 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: I was joking about most of them
02:34 <luke-jr> but don't go calling it verbally
02:34 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: o
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> the one occasion I know about, you weren't the first to find it, someone (I think Vanhayes) was sending a settler already
02:34 <GodTodd> #joke
02:34 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
02:34 <Vanhayes> ya
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> *two occasions, the second one was me, and I enforced my claim with muskets
02:34 <Lucifer_arma> but we weren't allies, we were only at Peace
02:35 <luke-jr> I thought Luci did it once
02:35 <luke-jr> but then I found he had settled it later
02:35 <Vanhayes> I almost always honor borders, the only time I havent that I can remember is that time with fluffy where the border moved 2 over
02:35 <luke-jr> so I gave him my city
02:35 <Vanhayes> woops
02:35 <luke-jr> err, I later found he had settled it first
02:35 <Lucifer_arma> you had to find I settled it, but I already told you I settled it
02:35 <luke-jr> I just want to have a 1 city on the same continent
02:35 <Vanhayes> ah there I kept forgeting to save after deleting that auto replace
02:35 <luke-jr> or maybe a few if it's large
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> when you were out there with a boat, I said "I've already started settling that island"
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> you put your city there anyway, so I resolved to take it from you, and if it meant total war, I was getting ready for it
02:36 <luke-jr> must've missed that?
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, when we're split up on continents, I don't want to have cities on the same continent :)
02:36 <luke-jr> why?
02:36 <Lucifer_arma> not my home continent anyway, you know, where my capital is
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> although, I'm considering making an exchange of cities a requirement for an alliance with me
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> think of it as a way of enforcing the alliance :)
02:37 <luke-jr> erm
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> also, it would be a lot easier for me to defend my science partner if our cities were intermingled
02:37 <luke-jr> so what you're saying is
02:37 <luke-jr> you want an alliance before I have a city on your continent
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> Peace != alliance
02:38 <luke-jr> so what you're saying is
02:38 <luke-jr> you want an alliance before I have a city on your continent
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
02:38 <armabot> pong
02:38 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't want an alliance unless there's a real need for it
02:39 <luke-jr> fending AIs off is a real need for me
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> spidey and I stay at peace until we get to each other's areas with caravans/freights.  Then we ally so the freights can have free movement
02:39 <luke-jr> I don't want to do military until forced
02:39 <GodTodd> fending off ais should force it ;)
02:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, I ally with ais too, but I build my own defenses
02:40 <luke-jr> my point being
02:40 <luke-jr> that allies make AIs less likely to pick on you
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> see, something you seem to be missing, you could ally with an ai near you, right?
02:40 <luke-jr> I try
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> and that ai might be at war with an ai near *me*
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> and if I ally with you, the ai near me will attack me
02:40 <luke-jr> I don't think it works that way
02:40 <Lucifer_arma> it's in my best interests to avoid alliances as much as possible
02:40 <luke-jr> I think I'd need to be at war w/ the AI near you myself
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, it does.
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't declare war on that ai, your ally with break the alliance
02:41 <luke-jr> sometimes
02:41 <GodTodd> luke-jr: ever heard the saying "the friend of my enemy is my enemy"?
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> always.  It always happens.  I had the Dutch saying "Declare war on luke!"
02:41 <luke-jr> well, I guess usually that AI declares war on me first
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> probably.  :)
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> spidey and I both allied with the dutch to keep him from going after us
02:42 <luke-jr> GodTodd: want to play tonight?
02:42 <luke-jr> I allied w/ Dutch too :p
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> I declared war on the sioux finally because the dutch told me to, but I didn't want to
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> you did it after a human took him over, spidey and I were dealing with him as an ai
02:42 <luke-jr> I was at war w/ Sioux too
02:42 <GodTodd> sounds like there're too many wuss rules...so i dunno
02:42 <luke-jr> no, I allied w/ Dutch before that
02:42 <luke-jr> and he broke it off
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> wuss rules?
02:42 <GodTodd> yeah...like don't attack luke and let him settle wherever
02:42 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: let's play as a team and intermingle our cities :)
02:43 <luke-jr> GodTodd: actually, I don't know if I'm going to trust you all to follow those rules :p
02:43  * luke-jr thinks the ruleset should make alliances unbreakable :p
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to see how the game goes when we know ahead of time who our allies will be, and play a team game, but later on probably won't want to do that, just play it where the cards lie
02:43 <GodTodd> luke-jr: smart...cuz those rules would be broken faster than a whore's back
02:43 <luke-jr> GodTodd: those ones you cited were never rules btw
02:43 <Lucifer_arma> if the ruleset made alliances unbreakable, I'd *never* make alliances
02:44 <Vanhayes> hmm, are teams unbreakable?
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> teams are unbreakable!
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> you create them before the game
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> teammates spawn next to each other
02:44 <luke-jr> I don't want predetermined alliances tho
02:44 <Vanhayes> why not...
02:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, I want to do it to find out how the game flows when we fight humans vs humans
02:44 <luke-jr> boring
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> ?  there are other alliances...
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> there's a reason I want to do it with 3 teams instead of 2 :)
02:45 <luke-jr> eh?
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> being on a team doesn't mean you can't make other alliances
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> afaik, anyway
02:45 <luke-jr> yes it does
02:45 <luke-jr> last time I played teams anyhow
02:45 <GodTodd> luke needs his own team
02:45 <Vanhayes> hmm Id like to try teams next time we all play
02:45 <Lucifer_arma> it might have been setup that way, teams can always do diplomacy with themselves no matter how it's setup
02:46 <luke-jr> only if I get 4x starting units :p
02:46 <GodTodd> sure...all explorers :P
02:46 <luke-jr> so shall we try teams tonight?
02:46 <luke-jr> we have enough players I think
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, I wouldn't object to having starting units as long as there's a ton of settlers and workers :)
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> maybe after 11pm or so, for me
02:46 <luke-jr> that's way too late...
02:46 <luke-jr> that'd give us an hour before bedtime
02:46 <Lucifer_arma> that's when I can play :/
02:47 <GodTodd> yeah...luke's wife would never go for that
02:47 <luke-jr> what's stopping you from playing now?
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> the fact that I'm about to go into the kitchen and cook dinner for my family
02:47 <luke-jr> ...
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I should already be in there
02:47 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: lame
02:47 <GodTodd> heh
02:47 <Vanhayes> well I cant tonight, too late already
02:47 <luke-jr> we can take breaks
02:47 <luke-jr> omg
02:47 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: baby
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> ?
02:47 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: school
02:47 <luke-jr> it's nowhere near late
02:47 <Lucifer_arma> you won't play past midnight and vanhayes is a baby somehow?
02:47 <luke-jr> it's not even 8 pm
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> 7:47
02:48 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: its almost 10
02:48 <GodTodd> Vanhayes: but school is lame
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> and it's after 8 where Vanhayes (hi there!) is
02:48 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: I thought you were in Canada?
02:48 <luke-jr> and 10 isn't that late
02:48 <Vanhayes> I am
02:48  * Lucifer_arma shows luke-jr (hi there!) a map of Canada's timezones
02:48 <luke-jr> does Canada have a timezone east of US?
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> yes
02:48 <luke-jr> wtf
02:48 <Vanhayes> atlantic
02:48 <luke-jr> that's dumb
02:48 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: move to midwest or texas
02:48 <Vanhayes> your dumb, timezones make sense
02:48 <Lucifer_arma> not that it matters, vanhayes is in EST anyway, right?
02:48 <luke-jr> anyhow, 10 isn't that late
02:48 <ghableska> no
02:49 <luke-jr> timezones don't make sense
02:49 <Vanhayes> Im atlantic
02:49 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: Eastern is 8:49
02:49 <Vanhayes> -4 GMT now I think
02:49 <GodTodd> neither does catholocism but you agree with it
02:49 <GodTodd> :P
02:49 <luke-jr> yes it does
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> oh right, EST is only 1 hour ahead of me, heh
02:50 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: 2 right now
02:50 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: well Im pretty tired and ill probly be asleep in an hour or so
02:50 <luke-jr> but Eastern != EST right now
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> um, yeah it is
02:50 <luke-jr> no, it's EDT...
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> daylight savings is in the summer, when it'd be EDT
02:50 <Lucifer_arma> no, you're backwards :)
02:50 <luke-jr> whatever
02:50 <luke-jr> DST is dumber than TZs
02:50 <Vanhayes> hmm when does it get dark there?
02:50 <luke-jr> like 5
02:50 <GodTodd> there's the witty reply i've come to expect from luke :)
02:51 <GodTodd> <luke-jr> whatever
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> 5:30-6
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> lemme guess, it gets dark where you're at like at 3pm?
02:51 <luke-jr> why should the time change to make the sun go down earlier?
02:51 <Vanhayes> nah, 5 ish is about right
02:51 <Lucifer_arma> sun comes up around 10am?
02:52 <Vanhayes> sun comes up around 6-7
02:52 <luke-jr> why are we asking each other these dumb questions about when the sun does what?
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> that's what Seattle was like near the winter solstice
02:52 <luke-jr> with timezones it should be the same for all of us
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> no
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> when people are farther north, the sunrises later and sets earlier
02:52 <luke-jr> fun, so timezones don't even serve *THAT* purpose
02:52 <luke-jr> they're really useless
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> no they're not :)
02:52 <Lucifer_arma> 9-5 means the same thing everywhere
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> if we didn't have timezones, 9-5 in GMT would be some weird hour in Texas
02:53 <luke-jr> as if "work hours" is so hard
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02:53 <luke-jr> 9-5 GMT is still a weird hour in TX
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, it means you adjust your equipment when you move
02:53 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: invent a better system or stop complaining
02:53 <Lucifer_arma> instead of adjusting your thoughts
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> while I'm not opposed to adjusting thoughts, I do know that when you live in an area most of the time and go to new areas some of the time, those time-besd habits are ingrained
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> and probably nearly impossible to deal with
02:54 <luke-jr> right, because it's so hard to get used to different work hours
02:54 <Lucifer_arma> but for people that travel a lot, it doesn't matter either way
02:55 <luke-jr> for people that do international communications, it serves as a pain in the butt often
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> how?
02:55 <luke-jr> that's almost everyone these days
02:55 <luke-jr> scheduling stuff
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> not if everyone knows their offset from GMT and does their scheduling off GMT
02:55 <Lucifer_arma> so I say "let's meet at 10:00 GMT"
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> you adjust it for your clock, I adjust it for mine
02:56 <luke-jr> right, because everyone knows their offset
02:56 <luke-jr> DST screws up most who do
02:56 <Vanhayes> -4
02:56 <luke-jr> heck, even I don't know my offset
02:56 <luke-jr> but then I avoid timezones anyway
02:56 <Vanhayes> its not really hard
02:56 <luke-jr> I'm -5 or -6
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> -6
02:56 <Lucifer_arma> -5 in daylight savings
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> well, until recently, most people didn't have to worry about it
02:57 <Vanhayes> anyways, good night
02:57 <Lucifer_arma> and I'd wager that most people still don't have to worry about it
02:57 <Vanhayes> #night
02:57 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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02:57 <Lucifer_arma> I need to go cook dinner, bbl
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04:25 <spidey> #ping
04:25 <armabot> pong
04:34 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:34 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 24.8°F (8:54 PM CST on December 04, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa. 
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
04:38 <armabot> pong
04:38 <ghableska> #pong
04:38 <armabot> ping
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04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> ahahaha the SA boards were digg'd
04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> no wonder why they've been running like crap
04:44 <DrJoeTr0n> it was for a thread about a guy who recognized their sister in a porno :p http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2191192
04:45 <Compn> hahaha
04:45 <Compn> sounds funny
04:46 <DrJoeTr0n> im so glad i registered :)
04:46 <DrJoeTr0n> il be back
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05:04 <ghableska> #night
05:04 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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05:26 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: spidey GodTodd
05:28 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6472 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/DCT.txt: DCT plans
05:30 <DrJoeTr0n> ko
05:34 <spidey> luke-jr, 
05:34 <luke-jr> 5555
05:38 <spidey> luke-jr, unai me
05:38 <luke-jr> in a bit
05:39 <spidey> ..
05:40 <luke-jr> ah, I see
05:41 <luke-jr> ok, restarted
05:42 <luke-jr> come play now
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> this the same game as last night?
05:54 <luke-jr> no
05:54 <luke-jr> size 6
05:56 <luke-jr> um
05:56 <luke-jr> Swedish AI just bought...
06:01 <GodTodd> ...a hooker for you?
06:02 <spidey> i wanna finish that game from last night
06:02 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr !
06:04 <luke-jr> I don't
06:05 <spidey> ...
06:06 <spidey> then find someone else to play with :|
06:08 <spidey> we rarely finish a game, and i'm getting tired of building a new civ over other day
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06:14 <Lucifer_arma> he doesn't want to finish it because he knows I'm going to wipe him out
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> can't blame him for that
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: spidey (hi there!) GodTodd (hi there!) you guys playing a game right now?
06:16 <spidey> his fault
06:16 <spidey> he fucking smallpoxs, not building anything else
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's not his fault I invaded him.  :)  He did talk trash to try to incite me to play a game...
06:16 <spidey> if he took the time to build maybe 20 cities instead of 50-60 he might actually do something besides lose them
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> if he was willing to settle for a slower rate of growth, he could still build a fuckload of cities and have them well-defended
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, if we always disable the space race, what's the point of playing peacefully?  war is all that's left...
06:17 <spidey> yea
06:17 <spidey> and AI's are boring
06:17 <spidey> it's like
06:17 <spidey> "zomg i'm being invaded, it's there ass now"
06:18 <spidey> "40 turns later"
06:18 <spidey> "pwned bitches"
06:18 <spidey> ;x
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> right!
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> and "Oh well, I guess I"ll have to pick up science on the fly then"
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> because you know that after you wipe out the first ai, you'll have the best science again anyway
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> and you can keep on fighting, commie no less!  and still get techs before everyone else
06:19 <spidey> haha
06:19 <spidey> how true
06:19 <spidey> but, i get like 600pts/turn no matter how many cities i got :p
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> in that game we were playing on the islands, I got up to 1200 points/turn at one point
06:20 <spidey> i had 947 at 70% science
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> it was a continued portion after you ai'd yourself, and we restored from an earlier spot
06:20 <spidey> stupid cities would revolt if i didn't put lux at 30%
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> I think we should go back to small maps, fewer ais, more techs to start, more gold, more settlers
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> just because we might be able to shave off 4-6 hours of the game
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06:21 <spidey> yea
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> on the one hand, I like the freedom the bigger map gives you, but then you wind up with a game that'll take weeks to get to a declared end
06:22 <spidey> is there a way to set a limit to the amount of cities a nation can "build" not including the conquored cities?
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> but it's a foregone conclusion the humans will win now
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't think there is :(
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> another thing I'm thinking, maybe we should prep games
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> where we get like 4-5 people to start a game, agree to do no war on each other
06:23 <spidey> hmmm
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> play it until we get modern tech, then save it off
06:23 <spidey> nah
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> leave it for a month or so, then come back and everybody has to pick a civ other than the one they prepped
06:23 <spidey> because most people will smallpox
06:23 <spidey> i don't like smallpoxing
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> citymindist
06:23 <spidey> doesn't matter
06:23 <spidey> only thing that does is make them build further apart
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> the problem I'm having is that it takes 4-6 hours to build up to a point where you can start preparing a war
06:24 <spidey> they'll still build a ton of cities
06:24 <spidey> i don't know
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to just start with a map that's already filled in the civs and you can start the war right away
06:24 <spidey> 20 turns into this game i had gunpowder
06:24 <spidey> lol
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> well, let's start with like 20-50 techs or so
06:24 <spidey> yea
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> so you just have to build your cities, rapture them up, and explore
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> nothing but settlers even
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> like 15 settlers
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> big starting radius
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> so you can build a city with most of them on the first turn :)
06:26 <spidey> heh
06:26 <spidey> honestly
06:26 <spidey> i don't want AI's
06:26 <spidey> none at all
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> I want ais, but I want them excluded from victory conditions
06:28 <spidey> i just don't want them :p
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, we need more than just you and me for a game then :)
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: luke-jr (hi there!) ?
06:33 <luke-jr> wtf
06:33 <luke-jr> we're already playing foo
06:33 <spidey> well
06:33 <spidey> basically it turns into
06:33 <spidey> "if i pwn this AI i'll have twice the firerate and twice the chance of pwning this human over here"
06:39 <DrJoeTr0n> your "o" button works, spazz. :V
06:40 <spidey> des nt
06:40 <spidey> des nawt
06:40 <spidey> haha
06:40 <spidey> i'ma start using nawt
06:40 <spidey> ;x
06:41 <luke-jr> <Adolf Spidey> to bad
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08:19 <Durka> #lastseen I Hate Durka!
08:19 <Durka> #lastseen I Hate Durka!2
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08:20 <armabot> Durka: )PWNsneak has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 5 days 18 hours 26 minutes ago.
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10:52 <spidey> wtf
10:52 <spidey> #google search test
10:52 <armabot> spidey: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
10:53 <spidey> Firefox can't find the server at www.google.com.
10:53 <spidey> anyone else get thaT? =/
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
11:00 <spidey> well
11:00 <spidey> i get google can't be found
11:00 <spidey> so does armabot =/
11:00 <spidey> #google search test
11:00 <armabot> spidey: Search took 0.11 seconds: Peterson's - College and Graduate School Planning, Test ...: <http://www.petersons.com/>; OSDL - Search Test Runs: <http://www.osdl.org/lab_activities/kernel_testing/stp/search.lnk/redirect_link>; Welcome to the Self-Directed Search ...the world's most widely used ...: <http://www.self-directed-search.com/>; SAT Registration - SAT Scores - College Search - College Admissions: (2 more messages)
11:01 <spidey> gay
11:08 <spidey> wow
11:08 <spidey> my router's being gay
11:08 <spidey> #ping
11:08 <armabot> pong
11:08 <spidey> brb
11:08 <spidey> #ping
11:08 <armabot> pong
11:08 <spidey> #ping
11:09 <armabot> pong
11:10 <spidey> wow
11:10 <spidey> #ping
11:10 <armabot> pong
11:10 <spidey> ...
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
11:10 <armabot> pong
11:10 <spidey> i don't understand that
11:10 <spidey> did i leave?
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> what?
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> no
11:10 <spidey> i turned the router off, then back on
11:10 <spidey> least webpages load now ;x
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> I figured out why me and luke are seeing each other fighting the vietnamese
11:11 <spidey> why?
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> he's moving north and I'm moving south, and we're not far from each other now
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> when we started, the vietnamese were between us
11:12 <spidey> hmm
11:12 <spidey> i'ma play with these pictures and photoshop
11:12 <spidey> maybe i can make some good looking transport units and such :)
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> :)
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> make an air freight for me ;)
11:13 <spidey> ok
11:14 <spidey> i was thinking about a city radar
11:24 <spidey> hm
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> I keep meaning to look and see if I can make a building that'll expand city vision
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> I change my mind, I don't think an air freight would be useful
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> just build an air transport and load it up with freight, that should be sufficient
11:25 <spidey> http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1778/airfrieghtfm5.gif
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I can use that as a robotic bomber/fighter or something
11:27 <Lucifer_arma> you might keep in mind I want to extend techs into the future to allow for a robotic arsenal, and then a fusion-based series of units like plasma cannons and stuff
11:28 <spidey> heh
11:28 <spidey> k
11:29 <Lucifer_arma> City_Vision_Radius_Sq
11:29 <Lucifer_arma>     Increase city vision radius in squared distance by amount tiles.
11:30 <spidey> hmm
11:31 <Lucifer_arma> I was wanting to make a ground-based building that increases city vision by some amount, then a couple of satellites that become available that do even more for each city
11:32 <Lucifer_arma> regular buildings that you can build, the satellites would be, not wonders.
11:32 <Lucifer_arma> graphics for buildings aren't that important unless you really want them, units are obviously very important
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> I'd also like to push chemical rocket technology to where you get semiballistic transports that have a range like an icbm
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> means you can't just defend coastal cities anymore :)
11:38 <spidey> heh
11:50 <spidey> hmm
11:51 <spidey> i'm not sure what this is but whatever
11:51 <spidey> http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9810/imnotreallysuredp2.gif
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh, not sure either :/
11:52 <spidey> i'll call it
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> the tileset I'm putting this stuff in wants 30x30.  I can try to scale it to fit.
11:52 <spidey> "spideysucksatphotoshop fighter"
11:52 <spidey> :D
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> I think the unit tiles can be used in the iso tilesets
11:53 <spidey> hm
11:53 <spidey> that's like
11:53 <spidey> 96x96
11:53 <spidey> i can't do 30x30 it's way to pixelated when i zoom in :/
11:53 <Lucifer_arma> I can scale it, but there's going to be some loss....
11:54 <spidey> http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6386/testmr6.jpg
11:55 <spidey> ;x
11:55 <spidey> that's like
11:56 <spidey> #date
11:56 <armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
11:56 <spidey> #time
11:56 <armabot> spidey: 11:59 AM, December 05, 2006
11:56 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, looks like the iso sets use the same images as the top-down sets
11:56 <Lucifer_arma> for units, that is
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> try cropping all the whitespace out before scaling it down :)
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> that's pretty small
11:57 <spidey> lol
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> you can run it right to the edges if you want, some of the unit tiles already do that
12:02 <guru3> gotta hate it when
12:02 <guru3> there's some stupid ass unsheduled seminar thing
12:02 <guru3> in your work room
12:03 <guru3> "undergraduate workroom"
12:03 <guru3> i'm an undergraduate
12:03 <guru3> AND I CANT WORK THERE CAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON IN THERE
12:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and what is going on there?
12:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ah
12:08 <[Xpert]DarkStar> ><
12:08 <guru3> i found a chair in a landing by the stair case
12:08 <guru3> it has an outlet nearby
12:08 <guru3> and is in range of wifi
12:08 <guru3> im set until the next lexture
12:21 <spidey> http://files.filefront.com/alienarena+2006+x86run/;4295821;/fileinfo.html
12:22 <guru3> is it in portage?
12:23 <spidey> ?
12:23 <guru3> nevermind
12:23 <spidey> that's the linux install, there's a windows one somewhere
12:24 <spidey> i've done closed it :/
12:24 <guru3> alien arena 2007 is out it seems
12:24 <spidey> yea
12:24 <spidey> i had it, before i formatted
12:25 <spidey> http://red.planetarena.org/
12:26 <guru3> remind me to dl it @ some point
12:26 <spidey> only if i can remember to download it..
12:27 <guru3> jk alreadying dling
12:28 <spidey> heh
12:29 <guru3> an hour to dl
12:29 <guru3> i'll try it well later
12:30 <spidey> ;p
12:31 <guru3> woo got tron running on here
12:31 <guru3> maybe play some of that
12:31 <guru3> afk
12:32 <guru3> i'm on CP
12:32 <spidey> cp?
12:34 <guru3> classic play
12:34 <guru3> i'm sad to learn ppl playing on it
12:34 <guru3> appear to be dicks
12:36 <spidey> heh
12:36 <spidey> wow@ my ping
12:36 <spidey> o.o
13:02 <guru3> yeah well
13:02 <guru3> i'm off to class now
13:06 <spidey> cy
13:06 <spidey> cya
13:11 <spidey> Special note: Due to the massive filesize of this release, it is recommended that you use the browser Firefox. Internet Explorer most likely can not handle the file.
13:11 <spidey> is 2.5gb big??? :p
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13:17 <spidey> 2 hour download at 389kb/s
13:17 <spidey> >.>
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13:24 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: you know that a char can't hold values from 0 to 0x100?
13:33 <spidey> #cnn 38256
13:33 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 25.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Wind: W at 3 mph (5 km/h).
13:39 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: guru3
13:40  * wrtlprnft spams because guru3 isn't there :D
13:40 <spidey> lol
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13:46 <Lucifer_arma> spam
13:48 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: too late.
13:48 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I wanted guru3 (hi there!) to see my spam?
13:49 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/cockpit/cMap.h:130: warning: ‘cWidget::Map::m_currentMode’ will be initialized after
13:49 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/cockpit/cMap.h:119: warning:   ‘std::auto_ptr<cWidget::Map::Clipper> cWidget::Map::m_clipper’
13:49 <wrtlprnft> ../../src/tron/cockpit/cMap.cpp:512: warning:   when initialized here
13:49 <wrtlprnft> rm -f libtron.a
13:49 <wrtlprnft> how i HATE these warnings
13:49 <wrtlprnft> as if i CARED what gets initialized first
13:51 <z-man-work> you do care if one initialization depends on the other.
13:52 <z-man-work> and the poor compiler has no way of figuring that out (well, it has, but you know how it is)
13:53 <wrtlprnft> yeah, true
13:53 <wrtlprnft> anyways, in the current trunk it's easy to miss a warning under tons of ruby stuff
13:53 <Lucifer_arma> http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&engine=2&dockey=xml/f/4/f4f08f7e6c8d69e79031b079f7a2b411@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=php+programmer+python+c%2B%2B+linux  <-- how can you *not* want this job?
13:54 <Lucifer_arma> if I'm somehow not a shoe-in for this job, then they don't know what they want :)
13:54 <z-man-work> The ruby warnings only come while the Ruby bindings are compiled, or am I wrong?
13:54 <wrtlprnft> yeah, but i have them enabled in case i feel like doing some scripting
13:55 <wrtlprnft> the danger is that if i don't have it compiled in permanently i might want to try it out someday, but lose interest before i get it to compile
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> I have that same problem with my cat
13:58 <wrtlprnft> compiling your cat?
13:58 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6473 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
13:58 <armabot> armagetronad: Added a new clipping mode, an ellipse. It uses lines to clip, so it's limited to
13:58 <armabot> armagetronad: how many GL_CLIP_PLANEs you have. That mans it's a boring hexagon for me, but I
13:58 <armabot> armagetronad: hope it'll look good for someone with a better graphics card.
13:59 <wrtlprnft> wow, and the ci went through w/o errors
14:00  * Lucifer_arma doesn't have a cat
14:01 <wrtlprnft> lol
14:03 <z-man-work> So you don't know whether you may one day want a cat?
14:04 <z-man-work> clipping modes? What is clipped?
14:04 <wrtlprnft> the minimap
14:04 <z-man-work> ah
14:04 <wrtlprnft> you were supposed to see that from the filenames, but armabot doesn't show them
14:04 <z-man-work> can it now be zoomed in on you?
14:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah
14:04 <z-man-work> cool
14:05 <wrtlprnft> thanks to voodoo, to a large degree
14:05 <z-man-work> voodoo the user?
14:05 <wrtlprnft> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Cockpit_Tutorial#Map_Settings
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14:05 <wrtlprnft> the player
14:05 <cusco> hey!
14:05 <cusco> long time no play!
14:05 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=8491 ← this voodoo
14:06 <wrtlprnft> looks like I've got to implement my own clipping :(
14:06 <cusco> !who's THE player
14:07 <wrtlprnft> opengl doesn't seem to support more than 6 clipping plane no matter what the graphics card is
14:07 <z-man-work> darn, don't join in the middle of a conversation and try to understand it :)
14:07 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: yes, the clipping is mainly for the view frustum clipping
14:07 <z-man-work> Umm, were it is done already by other means, so that argument doesn't count.
14:08 <wrtlprnft> just wanted to say, didn't see any effects of it on other rendering
14:30 <Lucifer_arma> hell, I've been watching it since it started and I don't understand it
14:30 <Lucifer_arma> er
14:30 <Lucifer_arma> heh
14:30 <Lucifer_arma> #night
14:30 <armabot> Good night Lucifer_arma!
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16:11 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n, get americas army
16:12 <spidey> i keep shooting the drill sargent cause he won't stfu, so i'm still doing basic training :/
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17:39 <DrJoeTr0n> ewww
17:39 <DrJoeTr0n> americas army?
17:40 <DrJoeTr0n> that was great when i was on dial up
17:40 <DrJoeTr0n> but since im not any more
17:40 <DrJoeTr0n> :)
17:40 <DrJoeTr0n> off to class!
17:42 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: i suggest you fix durka's server? he's your client…
17:42 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=117471#117471
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21:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/zero/Rubber/Multi-death-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by zero
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21:23 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(2)^-1
21:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(2)^(-1) = 0.707106781
21:23 <wrtlprnft> #g 2.82843 / 0.707106781
21:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2.82843 / 0.707106781 = 4.00000407
21:24 <wrtlprnft> interesting…
21:26 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: do you use X-chat?
21:26 <luke-jr_work> or anyone
21:26 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50873C24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
21:26 <luke-jr_work> the colours Konversation uses just don't sit right w/ me... :p
21:26 <luke-jr_work> z-man: hi
21:26  * wrtlprnft uses IRSSI, still
21:28 <luke-jr_work> o
21:28 <luke-jr_work> spidey: 
21:29 <wrtlprnft> he uses mirc or something like that IIRC
21:31 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/zero/Rubber/Multi-death-0.0.01.aamap.xml: Resource by zero
21:32 <Compn> #serverinfo cafe
21:32 <armabot> Compn: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Blitz, Kamakazi, SwornTOKill, ~*SP*~viper~
21:40 <Compn> #serverinfo cafe
21:40 <armabot> Compn: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): Blitz, Kamakazi, snotmaster, SwornTOKill, wrtlprnft |mbc|, ~*SP*~viper~
21:40 <Compn> it grows!
21:56 <Compn> it grows!
21:56 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:56 <Compn> #serverinfo cafe
21:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (14 players) || Norm's Place (12 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (11 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (9 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (6 players) || The Tavern [armagetronad.de] (5 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (4 (1 more message)
21:56 <armabot> Compn: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): Blitz, G5, Johnyboy, Kamakazi, Player 1, snotmaster, wrtlprnft |mbc|, |AST| FoFo, |AST| }{Alex}{, ~*SP*~Sasha, ~Coin~
21:56 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: looks like your server doesnt show up on that
21:56 <Vanhayes> #more
21:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: players) || Carina Epsilon (high speed) (4 players) || Legendary Clan Server ^}LC}< (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || Strawberry Fields - BACKUP-SERVER (3 players) || .Tronners|.in|.Pyjamas|.High-rubber|TiP-Clan.De.ms (2 players)
22:01 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/zero/Rubber/Multi-death-0.0.02.aamap.xml: Resource by zero
22:17 <[dlh]> #rpn 2 dup *
22:17 <armabot> [dlh]: 4
22:18 <[dlh]> #rpn 1 2 nip
22:18 <armabot> [dlh]: Error: "nip" is not a defined function.
22:28 <wrtlprnft> nip?
22:29 <[dlh]> 1 2 nip -> 2
22:30 <wrtlprnft> ie delete the second-to-top stack element?
22:30 <wrtlprnft> or multiply?
22:31 <wrtlprnft> or swap the top 2, then divide?
22:31 <[dlh]> deletes the second to-top stack element.
22:31 <wrtlprnft> so my first guess :)
22:32 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/zero/Rubber/Multi-death-0.0.03.aamap.xml: Resource by zero
22:32 <wrtlprnft> #rpn 1 2 swp /
22:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: "swp" is not a defined function.
22:32 <wrtlprnft> #rpn 1 2 swap /
22:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 2
22:32 <wrtlprnft> #rpn 5 2 * !
22:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
22:33 <wrtlprnft> can't do n!?
22:35 <[dlh]> #rpn 2 2dup
22:35 <armabot> [dlh]: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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22:55 <ghableska> #weather 50265
22:55 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 50.0°F (2:54 PM CST on December 05, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa. 
22:55 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6474 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/src/network/nServerInfo.cpp: Fixed master to master communication.
23:02 <wrtlprnft> nice!
23:02 <ghableska> o.0
23:02 <wrtlprnft> z-man: is that related to all the problems people were experiencing?
23:02 <z-man> yep
23:02 <z-man> I hope
23:03 <z-man> the masters were not accepting messages from other masters
23:03 <z-man> I posted in the lates master server problem thread
23:03 <wrtlprnft> sorry i didn't reply to your question earlier in that thread
23:03 <wrtlprnft> read it, figured i didn't have time for it right then, forgot about it…
23:04 <z-man> never mind, I had to set up a private master to test things myself anyway.
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> what's the word for when everybody feels pressure to act exactly the same?
23:04  * Lucifer_arma just woke up and hasn't finished loading his dictionary
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> starts with a c
23:05 <z-man> do you want us all to scream "peer pressure"?
23:05 <z-man> oh
23:05 <ghableska> copying? :)
23:05 <z-man> conformity?
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> conformity, that's it, thanks :)
23:05 <wrtlprnft> grr, threw away my master build dir
23:06 <wrtlprnft> ah, no, there it is
23:07 <wrtlprnft> but it's a trunk version, i'd better use the stable branch
23:07 <wrtlprnft> URL: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
23:07 <wrtlprnft> Revision: 6105
23:07 <wrtlprnft> that was my master, if anyone cares
23:09 <z-man> Oh yeah, those ruby warnings are annoying
23:09 <z-man> How can you put PACKAGE_VERSION in a header?
23:10 <[dlh]> Sorry about the ruby warnings, if I knew how to get rid of them I would.
23:11 <z-man> Their headers look broken to me. I'd just edit the silly #defines out on my local system.
23:11 <z-man> We could #undef them in our own code, but probably not in the SWIG wrappers.
23:12 <z-man> We could disable that particular warning for the swig generated files, if that's possible.
23:15 <wrtlprnft> config.status: WARNING:  src/Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting
23:15 <wrtlprnft> i'm getting that with a lot of files when configuring the master…
23:15 <wrtlprnft> any meaning to it?
23:16 <z-man> My theory is that it's a autoconf/automake problem.
23:16 <z-man> err, a problem with those two only, and unrelated to what we do.
23:17 <z-man> autoconf probably produces makefiles that ignore --dataroot, whatever that is.
23:17 <z-man> s/autoconf/automake
23:17 <z-man> Hmm, there is gcc -w :->
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> the question was "Have you ever worked in a small company?"
23:17 <wrtlprnft> well, i'll ignore that the makefile ignores --datarootdir
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> To which I needed to answer "Yes, I only work in small companies because big companies require too much conformity" :)
23:18  * Lucifer_arma is off to school now, later
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23:20 <z-man> http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/html_node/Changed-Directory-Variables.html
23:20 <z-man> They claim auomake handles this.
23:21 <z-man> Well, it doesn't. At least not the version I currently use.
23:22 <wrtlprnft> i hope it'll work, i wanna go to bed.
23:22 <z-man> It worked for me.
23:22 <Your_mom_arma> #time
23:22 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: 11:25 PM, December 05, 2006
23:22 <luke-jr_work> anyone else tested the overlay yet?
23:22 <wrtlprnft> btw, this bug also explains why master4 was the most reliable :D
23:22 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: it does?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> it probably was the only one that wasn't updated to the new revision
23:23 <Your_mom_arma> who was master 4?
23:23 <wrtlprnft> ig
23:23 <wrtlprnft> *iF
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> mine hasn't been updated in quite awhile
23:23 <wrtlprnft> and he is still running it
23:23 <luke-jr_work> I thought arma servers registered w/ all masters anyway?
23:24 <z-man> new ones, yes.
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> not 0.2.7.1-
23:24 <z-man> old ones only talk to my server.
23:24 <wrtlprnft> and that doesn't work either :(
23:24 <luke-jr_work> are there that many old ones?
23:24 <z-man> Enough to care for.
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe they asked for a Linux programmer and then sent a MS Word document with questions to answer
23:25 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:25 <wrtlprnft> there's 6 old servers on my master
23:25 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: that implies they expect conformity...
23:25 <wrtlprnft> sorry, 3, 0.3.0 isn't old
23:26 <luke-jr_work> anyone else tested the overlay yet? <---
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work: no, it implies they're a headhunter
23:26 <wrtlprnft> not me, i always use current SVN and install w/ --prefix
23:26 <luke-jr_work> hm
23:26 <luke-jr_work> btw, any ideas on a svn ebuild?
23:27 <luke-jr_work> stupid Portage lacks support for it
23:27 <Your_mom_arma> if we just dropped support for older servers i'ld guess less then half would actually upgrade
23:27  * Lucifer_arma isn't in gentoo anymore
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> ok, now I"m really leaving, bbl
23:27 <wrtlprnft> z-man: do the other master servers send updates to master1?
23:28 <z-man> yes, but it was ignoring them due to the bug :?
23:28 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i know that
23:28 <wrtlprnft> just asking because new servers only appear on masters 3 and 4 for a while
23:29 <wrtlprnft> it takes a few hours to make it to 1 and 2, in my experience
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23:30 <z-man> yeah, that may be the other problem, master1 pings the server quite right away while it's still talking to the other masters, and thinks it is unreachable.
23:30 <Your_mom_arma> #seen philippeqc
23:30 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: philippeqc was last seen in #armagetron 8 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 58 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <philippeqc> hi
23:30 <z-man> bedtime
23:30 <z-man> for
23:30 <z-man> me
23:30 <wrtlprnft> g'night
23:31 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen philippe
23:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: philippe has last been seen on The Lobster Cage 3 days 7 hours 50 minutes ago.
23:31 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
23:31 <armabot> pong
23:31 <Vanhayes> #pong
23:31 <armabot> ping
23:32 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen philippeqc
23:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: timed out
23:33 <Vanhayes> #lastseen
23:33 <Your_mom_arma> t1minute delay?
23:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: Christiano has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 1 minutes ago.
23:33 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma: 90 secs, i think
23:34 <Your_mom_arma> it was 61 seconds oms, but it could be different for you, the server and me
23:35 <wrtlprnft> ok, my new master is up and running
23:39 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:39 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:41 <luke-jr_work> hmm
23:41 <luke-jr_work> 750 GB for $215
23:44 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
23:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 16°F / -9°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 60 percent chance of flurries this evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 12.; Wednesday - Sunny. Becoming cloudy late in the morning with 40 percent chance of flurries or rain (1 more message)
23:44 <Vanhayes> #more
23:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: showers late in the day. Wind becoming south 20 km/h in the afternoon. High plus 2. Wednesday night..cloudy. 40 percent chance of flurries or rain showers early in the evening. Periods of rain beginning in the evening. Rainfall amount 5 to 10 mm. Wind south 30 km/h becoming southwest 40 gusting to 60 late in the evening. Temperature rising to 6 by morning.; Thursday - Showers. High 8.;
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23:50 <luke-jr_work> anyone want to buy a HD? :)
23:50  * luke-jr_work ponders effectively paying $-0.33/GB
23:53 <GodTodd> sure...i'll take a 750 GB off your hands for $100 ;)
23:54 <luke-jr_work> nah
23:55 <luke-jr_work> I meant a 250 GB for $100+
23:55 <GodTodd> nah...i can get that cheaper
23:55 <luke-jr_work> hm
23:55 <Vanhayes> if you cant pay me anymore than that I suppose ill take it
23:55 <luke-jr_work> how about $70? :p
23:56 <Vanhayes> uh I think you missed the part about you paying me
23:56 <GodTodd> anyway...i have enough 250s....next one i buy will be closer to 1 TB
23:56 <luke-jr_work> $-70 then
23:56 <Vanhayes> lol
23:57 <GodTodd> well...if you're charging $-70 then i'll take it
23:57 <GodTodd> ;)
23:58 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:58 <Vanhayes> btw luke-jr_work its impossible to pay a negitive number
23:58 <GodTodd> not in bookkeeping, it's not
23:58 <luke-jr_work> lol

Log from 2006-12-06:
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00:01 <GodTodd> if you are writing off an old credit that a vendor gave you, in the books you write it as having paid a -whateverthecreditwas
00:02 <Vanhayes> heh I meant with cash, like you cant give someone -10 bucks
00:02 <luke-jr_work> cash is worthless anyhow
00:02 <GodTodd> well...then say 'with cash' :P
00:02 <Vanhayes> heh, i will from now on
00:02 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: give yours to me then
00:02 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work:  give yours to me then
00:02 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: why would I have any if it's worthless?
00:03 <Vanhayes> are you one of those crazy people who use gold?
00:06 <Vanhayes> your silence tells me everything
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00:08 <luke-jr_work> Vanhayes: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org check my currencies accepted :p
00:11 <Vanhayes> I knew it
00:13  * GodTodd wonders what makes a check worth more than USD...
00:20 <GodTodd> yeah...my thoughts exactly
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01:01 <Vanhayes> #night
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01:02 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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02:53 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
02:53 <armabot> pong
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
02:59 <armabot> pong
03:00 <GodTodd> #pong
03:00 <armabot> ping
03:00 <luke-jr> wtf
03:01 <GodTodd> stfu
03:01 <Your_mom_arma> ftw
03:05 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
03:05 <armabot> pong
03:21 <spidey> #last --with spidey
03:21 <armabot> spidey: [21:31:27] <luke-jr_work> spidey:
03:21 <spidey> luke-jr_work, what?
03:21 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
03:21 <armabot> spidey: [03:23:50] <spidey> #last --with spidey, [21:31:27] <luke-jr_work> spidey:, [11:55:31] <spidey> "spideysucksatphotoshop fighter", [11:02:30] <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?, [06:43:59] <luke-jr> <Adolf Spidey> to bad, [06:18:50] <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: spidey (hi there!) GodTodd (hi there!) you guys playing a game right now?, [05:29:33] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: spidey GodTodd, [02:45:08] <Lucifer_arma> you did it (2 more messages)
03:21 <luke-jr> spidey: x-chat
03:21 <spidey> what about it?
03:24 <luke-jr> colours
03:26 <spidey> ..
03:27 <spidey> what about the colors?
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03:42 <luke-jr> hi Legit
03:42 <luke-jr> spidey: I like them
03:42 <spidey> lol
03:43 <spidey> i like windows x-chat client better
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03:44 <Legit> hey
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03:50 <DrJoeTr0n> god damn
03:51 <DrJoeTr0n> i got a new lobster :)
03:51 <spidey> lol, how much they pay you?
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03:53 <Hans> hello...?
03:53 <Hans> whoa...
03:53 <Hans> what is this?
03:53 <Hans> HELLO!?
03:53 <Hans> ...
03:53 <Hans> whatever
03:53 <Hans> bye
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03:54 <ghableska> ...
03:55 <spidey> lol
03:55 <ghableska> was that hyphy?
03:55 <ghableska> or Canada? 
03:59 <spidey> dunno
04:00 <ghableska> heh
04:07 <DrJoeTr0n> i need to go out and buy some pink paper
04:07 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr 
04:08 <spidey> are we gonna play civ tonight?
04:08 <DrJoeTr0n> no
04:08 <spidey> if not i'ma play america's army
04:08 <DrJoeTr0n> spidey
04:08 <spidey> that 2.5gig recruiting poster >.>
04:08 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n, 
04:08 <DrJoeTr0n> you seem off of the pulse of these games
04:08 <DrJoeTr0n> because americas army
04:09 <DrJoeTr0n> god damn man
04:09 <spidey> ?
04:09 <DrJoeTr0n> its sooo baad
04:09 <spidey> better than warrock
04:09 <spidey> so far atleast
04:09 <DrJoeTr0n> anything is better than warrock
04:09 <spidey> well
04:09 <spidey> i still like warrock :p
04:09 <DrJoeTr0n> AA was great when i was 8th grade
04:10 <DrJoeTr0n> back when i was on dial up and integrated graphics
04:10 <spidey> eh
04:10 <DrJoeTr0n> and thats right there where you realize
04:10 <spidey> v2.7 
04:10 <DrJoeTr0n> the people with the highest ping, play the best
04:10 <spidey> try running it on ubtegrated
04:10 <spidey> omg
04:10 <spidey> integrated
04:10  * spidey should look at the keyboard when he types
04:10 <DrJoeTr0n> i dont have onboard video
04:11 <DrJoeTr0n> not anymore i dont
04:11 <spidey> i have to run it on 800x600
04:11 <spidey> with normal gfx
04:11 <DrJoeTr0n> bwahahaha
04:11 <DrJoeTr0n> fuck AA
04:11 <spidey> ii like it
04:12 <DrJoeTr0n> you like alot of crapy games
04:12 <spidey> i'm happy because you can afford a gfx card to run these "better" games :)
04:13 <spidey> i can't even run swat 4
04:14 <spidey> something about the shaders, appearently my onboard doesn't support
04:15 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah it doesnt
04:15 <DrJoeTr0n> dx9 barely
04:15 <DrJoeTr0n> and dx9 likes shaders
04:15 <spidey> i have dx9 support
04:15 <spidey> aa requires it
04:15 <DrJoeTr0n> you barely have it
04:16 <DrJoeTr0n> if it uses the shaders
04:16 <DrJoeTr0n> you're dead
04:16 <spidey> well
04:16 <spidey> swat 4 crashes my vid drivers
04:16 <spidey> so i go back to looking at a win98 desktop
04:16 <spidey> lol
04:16 <DrJoeTr0n> no wonder why HL2 wouldnt run
04:16 <DrJoeTr0n> Your_mom_arma ping
04:17 <spidey> well
04:17 <spidey> with this mobo i'm getting i'll be able to get a agp card.....sometime
04:17 <Lucifer_arma> hello....?
04:17 <spidey> goodbye....?
04:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, yahoo mail just crashed my web browser :/
04:18 <spidey> i haven't used yahoo mail in...atleast 7 months
04:19 <spidey> i have about 7k emails on it
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm about to go renew my pop3 service
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> then I won't use yahoo mail :)
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> An email has been sent to you with information regarding steps needed to make the services ordered function properly.
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> how the hell am I supposed to receive it when I'm renewing my mail service?!?!?
04:22 <spidey> ...
04:22 <spidey> go check your mail :p
04:22 <spidey> i'ma play AA
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> ah, it was just boilerplate.  :)  I received the email
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> now I'll email myself from my yahoo account to see if it works, then start forwarding from  yahoo
04:22 <spidey> maybe
04:22 <spidey> if i can stop shooting my drill sargent
04:22 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:23 <luke-jr> Yahoo mail sucks
04:23 <luke-jr> they drop so many emails
04:23 <spidey> my online profile must be bad
04:23 <spidey> it's called bulk
04:24 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:24 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (8:54 PM CST on December 05, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa. 
04:25 <ghableska> ...
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> apparently there isn't any way to forward yahoo mail to a regular pop account :/
04:39 <Your_mom_arma> pong
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
04:39 <armabot> pong
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
04:41 <DrJoeTr0n> damn finals
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> hi DrJoeTr0n (hi there!) 
04:41 <DrJoeTr0n> hi Lucifer_arma
04:41 <ghableska> DrJoeTr0n: finals already? O_o
04:41 <DrJoeTr0n> i''ve got some this week and finals week officially starts next week
04:42 <DrJoeTr0n> and 2 concerts
04:42 <ghableska> what do you play?
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> damn music people
04:42 <DrJoeTr0n> percussion (drums)
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> he plays a whiny instrument :)
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> er
04:42 <ghableska> heh
04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> i had a steel band concert about an hour ago, and i have a symphonic band performance on thursday
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> I met this kid who told me he was a music major because he didn't think he was smart enough for anything else
04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> not looking to that
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> then he went off telling me all the things he wasn't good enough for
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> ?  symphonic band performances are easy
04:43 <ghableska> did he have them written down?
04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah, you'd think so
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> play a cymbal crash, then go to the bar for awhile, then go back and play the second cymbal crash
04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah thats the problem
04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> i cant wait that fucking lok
04:43 <DrJoeTr0n> long*
04:44 <DrJoeTr0n> especially whenthe meter keeps changing
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> just don't do any drugs in the meantime, or you'll lose count
04:44  * Lucifer_arma points to a cheers episode where Frasier brings the cymbal player in, and the cymbal player loses count while Diane's counting his change to him
04:44 <DrJoeTr0n> its usually Count to 342...*ding* count to 40
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> you should be a rock'n'roll guy
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> you only have to count when you're playing :)
04:45 <DrJoeTr0n> i love steel band though
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> that's probably a lot of fun, symphonic not so fun
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> I always hated the pretension that surrounds the symphonic stuff
04:45 <DrJoeTr0n> i've been doing that for about 4 years now
04:46 <DrJoeTr0n> symphonic crap for the past 11 years
04:46 <DrJoeTr0n> lots of counting in my life time
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:46 <DrJoeTr0n> and yet im terrible at math
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> I never counted the long rests.
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> I just waited until the rest of the band got to the part where I knew to count from.
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> the percussion players mostly told me they did the same thing :)
04:47 <DrJoeTr0n> i actually have to count them half of the time
04:47 <DrJoeTr0n> oh yeah
04:47 <DrJoeTr0n> alot of the times we dont need to count durring long rests
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> well, I never had many long rests, I was a clarinet player, different ballgame
04:48 <ghableska> clarinet?
04:48 <ghableska> that's really hard to picture :)
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> clarinet, yes
04:48 <DrJoeTr0n> theres usually a ritard, or a fermada right before i come in 60% of the time.
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> oooo
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> what a pain, heh
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04:49 <Lucifer_arma> of course, there were first section clarinet players that waited until the last note to play
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> how they got to first section is beyond me, but I carried first section most of the time :/
04:49 <DrJoeTr0n> welcome to my life
04:49 <DrJoeTr0n> i got fucked over 12th grade for snare captain by a girl who cant count to 8
04:50 <DrJoeTr0n> band director got fed up with her and just had me do everything a quarter way through the year because she sucked so hard.
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> so they'd always get it wrong, man.  Always.  Director could never do the dramatic shit he wanted to (had to run and get my kid who fell off the couch)
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> how did she wind up snare captain then?
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> and how the hell do you play snare if you can't count to 8?
04:51 <DrJoeTr0n> see thats the thing
04:51 <DrJoeTr0n> they were looking for a leader
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> which they didn't think you were?
04:51 <DrJoeTr0n> of course not
04:52 <DrJoeTr0n> i dicked around the whole time
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> man, what sucked about high school is they said "leader", but they really meant "bossy bitch"
04:52 <DrJoeTr0n> she was a bossy bitch
04:52 <DrJoeTr0n> no one listened her, disregarded he and came to me instead.
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> yep
04:52 <DrJoeTr0n> like she would say something, they would look for my approval first, which i usually didnt agree on.
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> I wound up getting first chair for the same thing.  Technically the girl beat me on the test, but she just sat there and stared
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> the rest of the section actually looked at me for help :/
04:53 <DrJoeTr0n> she would whine about me in her online journal ;d
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> not a great honor, I was in the middle band anyway.  Not pretensious or Christian enough to make the Good Band (tm)
04:53 <DrJoeTr0n> because she has to bust a hump playing everything, while i dont even pay attention and just sight read everything and nail it.
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:54 <DrJoeTr0n> oh yeah
04:54 <DrJoeTr0n> she was a one of those pretencious christian girls
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> I could see how she'd be jealous that she had no musical ability, and you come from a long line of one-hit-wonders
04:54 <DrJoeTr0n> i was a foul mouthed ass hole.
04:54 <DrJoeTr0n> haha
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> I'm your vehicle baby
04:54 <DrJoeTr0n> he married into the family ;D
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> close enough :)
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> apparently my wife's family got some musical ability when I married into it :)
04:55 <DrJoeTr0n> too bad his kids are fucking weird
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, my kid woke up again
04:56 <DrJoeTr0n> this is what my cousin that came from his loins looks like to the fucking bone
04:56 <DrJoeTr0n> http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/msutazzi16/kyle.jpg
04:56 <DrJoeTr0n> talks like him too
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> hahaha
04:57 <GodTodd> they jewish? ;)
04:57 <DrJoeTr0n> nah
04:58 <GodTodd> then there's no excuse :P
04:58 <DrJoeTr0n> i know!
04:58 <DrJoeTr0n> god i just want to just beat the shit out of him
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> do it on the Ides of March
04:58 <GodTodd> do it
04:58 <DrJoeTr0n> hahaha
04:58 <GodTodd> just do it
04:58 <DrJoeTr0n> he beats up on his little brother and sister
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> on the floor of the senate...
04:59 <GodTodd> nike his ass ;)
04:59 <DrJoeTr0n> test tube babies at there finest
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> shove a drumstick down his throat with a little american flag on the end
04:59 <DrJoeTr0n> like
04:59 <DrJoeTr0n> he's a wannabe nerd
04:59 <luke-jr> .
04:59 <DrJoeTr0n> he doesnt have the smarts or know how of anything.
04:59 <DrJoeTr0n> but he is socially awkward
05:00 <DrJoeTr0n> and talks really fucking weird
05:00 <DrJoeTr0n> christmas is gonna be a doozy
05:00 <ghableska> #night
05:00 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> man, you gotta come to texas so we can jam
05:00 <Lucifer_arma> transfer to UT
05:00 <DrJoeTr0n> haha
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05:02 <Lucifer_arma> so, if I tell you the plot of star wars from beginning to end in my own words, have I infringed on Lucas' copyright?
05:03 <spidey> DrJoeTr0n sux
05:03 <DrJoeTr0n> damn good
05:03 <DrJoeTr0n> you aught to be
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> if we promise to hurt luke-jr (hi there!) , would DrJoeTr0n (hi there!) play freeciv with us?
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> I'd be willing to invade luke if it got joe into the game
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> who wouldn't?
05:04 <mkzelda> star wars is just lucas' retelling of other stories
05:04 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I have an alliance w/ spidey
05:04 <mkzelda> w/ modernized/futuristic characters/settings
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> I was speaking in general terms, luke
05:04 <DrJoeTr0n> hmm
05:04 <DrJoeTr0n> tell you what
05:04 <DrJoeTr0n> i'll give it a shot next week
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.olga.net/
05:04 <DrJoeTr0n> because im going to get way to in to this
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> yes, you are, and you've got finals :)
05:05 <DrJoeTr0n> and...well normally say "who needs academics!? :V"
05:05 <DrJoeTr0n> but i need to do good
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: oh yeah, my check came.  Can you email me your address?
05:05 <DrJoeTr0n> so sometime next week i'll join up
05:06 <GodTodd> sure can
05:06 <GodTodd> DrJoeTr0n sucks
05:06 <GodTodd> fyi
05:06 <GodTodd> :P
05:06  * DrJoeTr0n sucks damn good
05:07 <GodTodd> i can't complain
05:07 <GodTodd> heh
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh, this kid in my drafting class
05:07  * DrJoeTr0n *
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> this is funny :)
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> he got drunk, went to IHOP and was acting like an ass, right?
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> so this cop decided to take him down for PI
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> on the way down, the cop car wrecked
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> kid has a little red mark on his forehead now from the scratch
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> moral of the story?  cops can't drive!
05:08 <luke-jr> ...
05:08 <luke-jr> it's been too long since I've listened to Kajiura
05:08 <mkzelda> ...
05:08 <mkzelda> dont let it happen again
05:08  * GodTodd ships luke to japan.
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> he listens to japanese music so he won't know how dirty and satanic the lyrics are
05:08 <luke-jr> ....
05:08 <luke-jr> mkzelda: you talk
05:09 <mkzelda> ...
05:09 <mkzelda> sometimes
05:09 <DrJoeTr0n> haha thats awesome
05:09  * GodTodd sends luke a king diamond cd so he can listen to some real music.
05:09 <DrJoeTr0n> hey mkzelda doesnt talk much, 
05:09 <DrJoeTr0n> but when he does
05:09 <luke-jr> yeah, it really is
05:09 <luke-jr> wd mkzelda
05:09 <DrJoeTr0n> it tends to be god damned gold
05:09  * luke-jr is listening to 'em more'
05:09 <GodTodd> don't mention gold...luke will get a 2 inch hardon
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> tell him it's a gold jesus and luke will shoot his foreskin into orbit
05:10 <mkzelda> i play the marcel marceau
05:10 <mkzelda> role
05:10 <GodTodd> mkzelda: face paint and all?
05:10 <mkzelda> ya, just for irc
05:10 <GodTodd> cool :)
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> I always pictured you in a err
05:11 <DrJoeTr0n> hahahaha
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> what do ballerinas wear?
05:11 <GodTodd> that reminds me of that one movie...what was it..."silent movie" i think
05:11 <GodTodd> tutu
05:12 <mkzelda> oh i thought that was going to be a joke
05:12 <mkzelda> i was all hyped about the punchline
05:12 <GodTodd> it is
05:12 <GodTodd> don't you get it?
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was fixing my bass
05:12 <mkzelda> did it stop singing?
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> you know, like Cheech in Up In Smoke
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> "My daddy he disowned me 'cause I wear my sister's clothes"
05:12 <GodTodd> or the nerdy guy in toxic avenger
05:13 <mkzelda> as much of a stoner as i used to be i should've seen up in smoke
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> you haven't seen it?
05:13 <mkzelda> nope
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> man....
05:13 <GodTodd> blasphemer!
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's the movie with that song in it :)
05:13 <mkzelda> i even owned a tommy chong bong
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> "Caught me in the bathroom with a pair of panty hose"
05:13 <spidey> #last --with spidey
05:13 <armabot> spidey: [05:07:09] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I have an alliance w/ spidey
05:14 <mkzelda> thats what he thinks
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> I've always found spidey to be a good ally
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> he doesn't preemptively strike, anyway, so as long as you don't, no problems
05:14 <GodTodd> yeah well...luke thinks ally == love fest :/
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think in the future I'm definitely going to want a city trade for alliances
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> not just you give me a city, but more like we exchange cities near our capitals
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> I want yours for an insurance policy, and it's fair for me to give you one of mine
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> might not do that for spidey though, like I say, he's always been a good ally
05:15 <GodTodd> yeah....you could always just move your capital tho
05:16 <mkzelda> nice
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> I'd consider that without an appropriate city gift to be breaking the alliance
05:16 <spidey> man
05:16 <spidey> i hate this game
05:16 <GodTodd> then don't play it
05:16 <GodTodd> duh
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: you freeciv?
05:16 <spidey> i can't qualify with the weapons :<
05:16 <mkzelda> im terrible at it
05:17 <spidey> the stupid drill sargent keeps annoying me :<
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> nonsense, you just need more practice!  :)
05:17 <mkzelda> im awful at most strategy games
05:17 <spidey> so i shoot him and get put in jail :|
05:17 <GodTodd> don't shoot him then
05:17 <mkzelda> i either try to plan something longer term and get rushed
05:17 <spidey> HURRY THE HELL UP
05:17 <mkzelda> or i go defensive to prevent rushing and suffer long term
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> aha
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> you need to learn and obey the first rule of war
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> which is
05:18 <spidey> science first
05:18 <spidey> ;x
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> Any plan, no matter how well thought-out, no matter how well-prepared, gets fucked up upon contact with the enemy.
05:18 <spidey> not always
05:18 <GodTodd> heh...wasn't snafu a military term? ;)
05:18 <mkzelda> starcraft was about the only thing i got good enough at to keep up w/ others
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, not when the enemy is luke
05:18 <luke-jr> bs
05:18 <spidey> ;p
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> the only thing that gets fucked up about the plan when it's luke is that you wind up taking cities so fast you outrun your reinforcements
05:19 <spidey> in the game we're playing
05:19 <spidey> in about 20 turns
05:19 <spidey> i'll be military grade
05:19 <spidey> like
05:19 <spidey> 400+ profit gold
05:19 <luke-jr> haha
05:19 <spidey> 500+ m tons production
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> and then he's either going to hit me or luke
05:19 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I have alliance :p
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> hopefully luke, but I'm building defenses :)
05:19 <GodTodd> heh...my bet's on luke ;)
05:20  * luke-jr has alliance and defenses already
05:20 <spidey> bs
05:20  * Lucifer_arma sent a spy to luke's cities, he doesn't have defenses
05:20 <luke-jr> ...
05:20 <mkzelda> dont forget god is on your side
05:20 <GodTodd> defenses...that means he has *3* phalanxes
05:20 <GodTodd> heh
05:20 <spidey> you have pikemen and muskets
05:20 <luke-jr> when was this? 50 turns ago?
05:20 <spidey> and 1 riflemen
05:20 <spidey> in each city
05:20 <luke-jr> spidey: and Howitz now
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> warriors only count as defenses when you don't have bronze working
05:20 <spidey> so?
05:20 <spidey> you're railed
05:20 <spidey> howitzers are shit for defense
05:21 <spidey> even if you autoattack with  them
05:21 <GodTodd> howitzer defense sucks
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> howitzers are defense of 2
05:21 <spidey> the rail lets me strike first
05:21 <spidey> either way
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> 2-3 fortified MI + 1 autoattack howitzer is a good defense
05:21 <luke-jr> auto-attack
05:21 <spidey> i got you 2 teched up
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> but tanks are cheaper than howitzers and actually work a little better
05:21 <spidey> i'll be happy to finish the AI and let you fight
05:21 <spidey> :p
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> for defense that is
05:21 <spidey> well
05:21 <spidey> fanatics
05:21 <GodTodd> yeah...i usually favor tanks for defense over howitzers
05:21 <spidey> are the cheapest
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> tanks also have the advantage of being good fortifiers too
05:22 <spidey> and have a defense rating of a MI when forted
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> same as a fortified MI?
05:22 <luke-jr> never seen a tank unit
05:22 <spidey> MI don't get a bonus when forted
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, we're in modern warfare, and any city that lacks SDI + SAM battery is *not* defended, no matter how many units you have
05:22 <spidey> fanatics have a 6 defense rating when forted
05:22 <GodTodd> truly
05:22 <spidey> mi do aswell
05:23 <spidey> only need a SDI
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> wait, MI don't get a fortified bonus?
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> where did you see this?
05:23 <spidey> which, btw i'm building :)
05:23  * Lucifer_arma goes to look, this is important info
05:23 <spidey> they don't
05:23 <spidey> i checked the "help" thingy
05:23 <luke-jr> ...
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> May fortify, granting a 50% defensive bonus.
05:24 <spidey> i'm build every defense building except SAM
05:24 <spidey> sdi will do me fine
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's something about the civ2 ruleset luke's running
05:24 <spidey> hm
05:24 <spidey> well in your ruleset
05:24 <spidey> isaac newtons college doesn't give a free uni.
05:24 <spidey> lukes does
05:25 <luke-jr> heh
05:25 <spidey> yours only gives a 100% science boost
05:25 <luke-jr> College is nice in warruleset
05:25 <spidey> yea
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> my ruleset's based on the freeciv default right now
05:25 <spidey> if my cities wasn't bitching at me all the time i'd have a 1k+ pts/turn type thing
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> you might want to think about what else you want in it, btw :)
05:26 <spidey> but i have to put it at 70% and lux at 30%
05:26 <spidey> and only get 900+pts/turn
05:26 <spidey> wanna start that game up? :p
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> wait, how do I load a ruleset?  :)
05:27 <spidey> dunno
05:27 <spidey> i'ma start on mine in janurary :)
05:27 <spidey> i found some cool pictures to use
05:28 <spidey> modern units will look like future units :D
05:28 <luke-jr> lame
05:28 <luke-jr> why don't you help w/ ArmaCiv
05:28 <spidey> you're lame
05:28 <spidey> armaciv? .... is a tank a lightcycle?
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> I don't see it, spidey
05:29 <spidey> see what?
05:29 <luke-jr> no, a tank's a tank
05:29 <luke-jr> duh
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> I loaded the civ2 ruleset, and it says MI get a bonus when they fortify
05:29 <spidey> hm
05:29 <luke-jr> who uses civ2?
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> you?
05:29 <spidey> maybe  i was looking at the wrong unit then
05:29 <luke-jr> no?
05:29 <spidey> he uses the warruleset
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> ummmmmmm
05:29 <spidey> fundamentalism ftw
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> there isn't one?
05:29 <luke-jr> ...
05:29 <luke-jr> it's 3rd-party
05:30 <luke-jr> goes w/ warserver/warclient
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, so I'll hve to check it after we restore the game
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> but you don't run the warserver, do you?
05:30 <luke-jr> no
05:30 <luke-jr> just the ruleset
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhhhhh
05:30 <luke-jr> O.o
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> I guess I should google it up and see what's different
05:31 <luke-jr> a lot it seems
05:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr wanna start now? :p
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> so, I'm going to remove paratroops from my ruleset
05:31 <luke-jr> no
05:31 <spidey> :/
05:31 <luke-jr> I'm organizing CD/DVDs
05:31 <spidey> to bad
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> turns out that air transports make paratroops a worthless unit
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> and I can use the graphic somewhere else
05:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: can we unload air transports at arbitrary land?
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> yes
05:32 <luke-jr> nice
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> I did some good invasions with it
05:32 <luke-jr> they should lose HP by falling arbitrary tho
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> I can tar it up for you in its current form, or stick in svn or something
05:32 <luke-jr> or require something to protect them
05:32 <luke-jr> not arma svn, unless you're going to make it armaciv
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, in reality, most units can be paradropped
05:32 <luke-jr> o
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> the ones that can't, well, freeciv isn't that flexible
05:33 <spidey> marines can
05:33 <luke-jr> we need modifiers for units or smth
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05:33 <Lucifer_arma> even light tanks can, and I've seen the transports that are used for heavy tanks, although they can't be paradropped
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> they dropped jeeps and field guns in Operation: ummmm
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> Market Garden
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> that's it
05:34 <luke-jr> air transports should have fuel based on load weight :p
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> that's something we also can't do :(
05:34 <luke-jr> hrm
05:34 <spidey> they need a disadvantage for sure
05:34 <luke-jr> can we do space battles?
05:34 <luke-jr> or have space units?
05:34 <luke-jr> eg, above air units
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> we can have space units, but we're limited in what they can do
05:34 <luke-jr> unable to drop or land except designated sites
05:35 <luke-jr> but don't use as much fuel
05:35 <luke-jr> but can be equipped with lasers and such
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> depending on the unit, of course.  Some are better suited for city buildings even though they're technically units
05:35 <luke-jr> or fight other space units
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> in that regard we're limited to the below the stratosphere
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> I gave my icbms 100 MP, and the game seems to have clamped it at 64
05:36 <luke-jr> MP?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> movement points
05:36 <luke-jr> o
05:36 <spidey> sdi makes icbm's useless, right?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> it should, but no guarantees
05:37 <spidey> it better
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> icbms are missiles, and sdi should affect them the same way it does cruise missiles
05:37 <spidey> if i'ma pay 4gold/turn per city
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, I made the icbms pretty expensive
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I want a bomb unit type
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> here's the problem
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> a nuclear unit takes out a 3x3 patch of units, right?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> with a disposable missile, no problem
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> but make it a bomber, and it's a one-shot bomber.  What's the use?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> so I'd like to have a bomb unit with bomb carriers, make a heavy bomber that can carry 8 bombs or so, and make a nuclear bomb
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> and the bomb would have a range of 2 squares, just enough to let the bomber drop it without being taken out by it
05:39 <spidey> hm
05:39 <spidey> that's unbalancing
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> so, say I use a missile instead.  Now the problem is that the heavy bomber could carry cruise missiles and even icbms
05:39 <spidey> load 8 bombers on a carrier with 8 bombs per bomber
05:39 <spidey> that defeats the purpose of a carrier-limit
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, the air transport gives you that option too :/
05:40 <spidey> yea
05:40 <spidey> and the airtransport doesn't have a negative
05:40 <spidey> everything has to have a negative :p
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> what's the negative to a ship transport, the one you get with industrialization?
05:40 <spidey> it can be sank
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> air transport can be shot down
05:41 <spidey> not with the amount of movement points they have :p
05:41 <spidey> nothing will be able to catch them
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, that's a good point
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> fighters can't catch them
05:41 <spidey> bombers can intercept, maybe
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> neither can cruise missiles for that matter
05:42 <spidey> but only on the return trip
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but bombers can't attack air units
05:42 <spidey> oh
05:42 <luke-jr> heh
05:42 <luke-jr> why so many MP?
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> clearly we need a modern interceptor
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm trying to speed units up in general, to be honest :)
05:43 <spidey> i don't like that ;/
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> probably a bad idea
05:43 <spidey> 1 turn strikes will make it almost impossible to defend
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, I gave the air transport the same MP as a bomber under the reasoning that they were essentially the same plane with different cargo
05:44 <spidey> actually
05:44 <spidey> you gave it 24(24)
05:44 <spidey> bombers have 24(12)
05:44 <spidey> or something
05:44 <spidey> maybe the other way around
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> stealth have 24(12), where 24 is total, 12 is how far per turn
05:45 <spidey> yea
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> the older bombers are 16(8)
05:45 <spidey> but bombers only carry a few bombs
05:45 <spidey> transports carry more weight
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> bombers only get one attack, that is true
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like a heavy bomber with more than one attack, though
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I should take another look at the air transport
05:46 <spidey> i like it vs AI
05:46 <spidey> but it's to strong vs human ;p
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> icbms probably also need to be a bit more expensive
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> on smaller maps, the whole map will be in range, which was kind of the point
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> nuclear icbms need to be prohibitively expensive
05:48 <spidey> i notice something, i installed tron in GamesArmagetronAdvanced instead of Games\Armagetron Advanced
05:48 <spidey> =/
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> duh
05:49 <spidey> E:\GamesArmagetron Advanced
05:49 <spidey> lol
05:49 <spidey> hmm, on install 1 i have C:\ D:\ E:\  on install 2 i have C:\ D:\ G:\
05:50 <spidey> ;d
05:50 <spidey> brb
05:51 <spidey> tell me about 20minutes before we're gonna play
05:51 <spidey> so i can make breakfast
05:51 <spidey> ;p
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm gonna grab a smoke
06:08 <spidey> hm
06:08 <spidey> luke-jr, hurry up ;p
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06:42 <Lucifer_arma> er, where's this war ruleset?
06:45 <spidey> don't know
06:46 <spidey> but if luke don't hurry up i'ma play americas army instead ;p
06:47 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, you remember that one game we played??
06:48 <spidey> the...
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> which one?  the one on the islands?
06:48 <spidey> ice age i think
06:48 <spidey> where i was aussie
06:48 <spidey> and pwned the russians and such
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, oh wait
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> it wasn't ice age, it was just a cold planet
06:49 <spidey> oh
06:49 <spidey> wanna play that untill luke gets done playing with himself?
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm, I'm looking for the mysterious warruleset right now :)
06:49 <spidey> lol
06:50 <spidey> hm
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> I think hoover's dam gives a wild advantage to whoever has it
07:10 <spidey> not really
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> well, it wouldn't help luke, he doesn't build factories :)
07:10 <spidey> lol
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> last couple of games I've built it, and it's really helpful
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> when you take a new city, to get it into production you just have to build a factory and an engineer
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> hoover dam gives you a hydro plant, and you can usually put out howitzers in 3 turns
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> to do better you need a mfg plant, but if you're not building bombers, you don't really need it
07:18 <spidey> doesn't matter to me...
07:18 <spidey> my cities are usually 40+ sheild cities
07:19 <spidey> only takes me 4 turns to build a nuke plant once ineed to build them
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> MI can fortify for a 50% bonus
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> I think you were smoking crack or something
07:21 <spidey> lol
07:21 <spidey> probably another unit i acidently clicked
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't look like the warruleset has much difference from civ2 ruleset
07:26 <spidey> they have quad core processors already
07:26 <spidey> o.O
07:26 <spidey> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115011
07:32 <luke-jr> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
07:33 <spidey> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
07:40 <spidey> luke-jr, you ready yet?
07:41 <luke-jr> never said I would be tonight
07:41 <spidey> :|
07:42 <spidey> fine, my night goes to americas army :D
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08:40 <Lucifer_arma> - all chat messages (public, private, allies) are echoed in the server console  <--- warclient only, looks like
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> *warserver
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/davesrules/trunk
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10:00 <spidey> fuckin a
10:00 <spidey> #last --nolimit
10:00 <armabot> spidey: [10:02:56] <spidey> fuckin a, [09:02:38] <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/davesrules/trunk, [08:43:17] <Lucifer_arma> *warserver, [08:43:14] <Lucifer_arma> - all chat messages (public, private, allies) are echoed in the server console  <--- warclient only, looks like, [07:45:34] <spidey> fine, my night goes to americas army :D, [07:44:02] <spidey> :|, [07:43:56] <luke-jr> never said I would (50 more messages)
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> re spidey
10:01 <spidey> man
10:01 <spidey> either my isp is really fucked up tonight
10:01 <Lucifer_arma> or you are?  :)
10:01 <spidey> or i got some serious problems with my coax lines
10:02 <spidey> either way
10:02 <spidey> it's there job to fix it
10:02 <spidey> so i'm calling when they open ;x
10:03 <spidey> and i wanted to play americas army :(
10:04 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, how useful in the grand scheme of things is a ground-based missile carrier?
10:05 <spidey> not really
10:05 <spidey> you could have silos though
10:05 <spidey> http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2095/testgp0.jpg
10:05 <spidey> i made that while i was netless :D
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10:05 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't look like a civ unit...
10:06 <spidey> rofl
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think a ground-based missile carrier is useful as a carrier of cruise missiles, but as an expensive artillery piece it could be pretty useful
10:06 <Lucifer_arma> you know, ratcheting up towards truly robotic units, it could sit at a higher tier than howitzers
10:07 <spidey> i think it'd offbalance the game
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> have it available side by side with howitzers, then have something obsolete howitzers so the missile carrier is the cheapest ground artillery unit
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> offbalance how?  I'm trying to get techs and stuff after modern tech :)
10:08 <spidey> because
10:08 <spidey> it'd be nothing but a slaughter
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> isn't that what war is?
10:08 <spidey> all you're doing is making people build sdi and sam
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> you must have missed the part about having it not carry cruise missiles
10:08 <spidey> which in return even i won't be able to afford with the gold rates i put out
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> just have it attack like a regular unit, give it a higher attack than a howitzer, and have it be comparably more expensive
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> and yes, another tier of buildings that both increase shield production and tax revenue will be needed
10:09 <spidey> then have something obsolete howitzers so the missile carrier is the cheapest ground artillery unit
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> and probably at least one more new tier of wonders
10:10 <spidey> it should have the same MP as a howitzer
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, with a higher attack, also ignoring city walls
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> er, maybe not ignoring city walls
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> have to think about that
10:11 <spidey> if it's a ballistic unit...
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter, I just stuck it in the tileset, haven't made rules for it yet :)
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> well, missiles aren't really ballistic anymore, they have tracking systems and are fired at targets and can theoretically go over city walls
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> man, I wish I could add more city wall effect buildings, so that a city with old city walls isn't protected against modern units, and a city with "new" city walls isn't protected against older units
10:12 <spidey> you know what we need
10:12 <spidey> something they didn't think about.
10:12 <spidey> around the ww2 era we need a atomic bomb
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> yes
10:12 <Lucifer_arma> civ1 worked that way, iirc.  There ws a nuclear missile and a nuclear bomber
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that's what I was talking about about the heavy bomber.  On further thought I think it should only carry 1 bomb, but since there is no "bomb" type and I'd have to use missiles instead, I think that would be bad
10:13 <spidey> well
10:13 <spidey> make a bomb
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> unless we can obsolete the heavy bomber with something else when cruise missiles arrive so that a missile-carrying bomber doesn't exist at the same time as a cruise missile
10:14 <spidey> get a pic of some bomb
10:14 <spidey> give the unit 1 movement point
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> carry it on a transport?
10:15 <spidey> on a bomber
10:15 <spidey> ;p
10:15 <spidey> and
10:15 <spidey> make the bomber a non-attack unit
10:15 <spidey> then you've got a real bomber
10:15 <spidey> ;p
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> lemme see if there's a real unit limit I can have
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> nothing in there about that
10:18 <Lucifer_arma> ok, the real problem I have with that is that it's going to make managing a war like that a real pain in the ass
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> it would really be best if we could get the nuclear effect without killing the unit firing it, and for that we'll just have to test it
10:19 <Lucifer_arma> do we have a savegame where someone has nuclear tactics?
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> ok, missile carrier should have same attack/defense/etc as howitzer, maybe tweak attack a few more points
10:22 <Lucifer_arma> but it should also be able to attack air units
10:24 <Lucifer_arma> if possible maybe give it increased defense against air units
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10:32 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv needs shallow ocean water, I think :)
10:32 <Lucifer_arma> so we can have riverboats and scenarios that use them
10:33 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so, should a missile carrier obsolete a howitzer?  something tells me no...
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10:40 <spidey> i'm getting
10:40 <spidey> very annoyed
10:40 <spidey> #last --nolimit
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> heh
10:41 <armabot> spidey: [10:43:40] <spidey> very annoyed, [10:43:38] <spidey> i'm getting, [10:36:17] <Lucifer_arma> ok, so, should a missile carrier obsolete a howitzer?  something tells me no..., [10:35:48] <Lucifer_arma> so we can have riverboats and scenarios that use them, [10:35:33] <Lucifer_arma> freeciv needs shallow ocean water, I think :), [10:26:48] <Lucifer_arma> if possible maybe give it increased defense against air (50 more messages)
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> so, should a missile carrier obsolete a howitzer?
10:41  * Lucifer_arma just added nuclear ICBM
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> costs 400 shields, very expensive
10:41 <spidey> i don't think we should have them unless they carry short rang missles
10:41 <Lucifer_arma> even if they can attack air units?
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> and have extra defense against air units?  AEGIS is a flag...
10:42 <spidey> still
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> besides, then you have the problem wher eyou could load one up with missiles and stick it on a transport...
10:42 <spidey> heh
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> and finally, there's one and only one missile type, so if it can carry missiles, it can carry icbms, because for an icbm to use itself up, it has to be a missile
10:43 <Lucifer_arma> and that would all make it very powerful.  I'm already uncomfortable that you can use carriers and subs to extend the range of an icbm...
10:43 <spidey> i'm uncomfertable we have them ;p
10:44 <spidey> any idea why i can't connect to the net via my voip modem?
10:44 <Lucifer_arma> I'll toss 'em in there and we'll see how it goes.  If they're useless, I can remove them, but I'm going to insist on further developing the tech tree and getting more modern units
10:44 <Lucifer_arma> dns issue?
10:45 <spidey> well
10:45 <Lucifer_arma> router going bad?
10:45 <spidey> no?
10:45 <spidey> i'm on a "modem" now
10:45 <spidey> i have 2
10:45 <spidey> one for the voip
10:45 <spidey> it has a 10/100 ethernet port that does nothing...
10:45 <spidey> well it gives me this ip: 169.254.78.97
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> ok, changed air transport to move 16(8)
10:46 <spidey> :)
10:46 <Lucifer_arma> If that's not slow enough, I'd rather bump it to just 12, with it having to stop to refuel every turn
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> 16(8) is equivalent to the first bomber you get
10:47 <spidey> yea
10:47 <spidey> that should be fine
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> slower than an awac by quite a bit, awacs are fast
10:47 <spidey> hell yea ;d
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, what tech for a missile launcher
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> that reminds me I need to rearrange the military techs
10:49 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't make sense that combined arms is a modern tech, it's an ancient tech
10:50 <spidey> combined arms is how you get choppers
10:50 <spidey> isn't it?
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, and paratroopers
10:51 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm removing paratroopers from the ruleset, they're useless when you have air transports
10:52 <Lucifer_arma> but all combined arms is is the ability of infantry, cavalry, and artillery to be used in the same battle working together
10:53 <Lucifer_arma> I can make another tech for helicopters to replace combined arms in the modern techs
10:54 <Lucifer_arma> but I need to see what I can give it in the ancient techs to make it worthwhile.  I was thinking just a slight attack bonus would be good, if I can, for all units
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> heh, how about Robotics II :)
10:56 <Lucifer_arma> requires rocketry and robotics, gives you missile launchers
10:56 <spidey> missle launcher!
10:56  * spidey feels like he's 5 again playing with those little plastic gi-joes
10:56 <spidey> ;x
10:57  * Lucifer_arma has to admit it was the GI Joe unit that gave hiim the inspiration for it, and mom made the graphic look a lot like the GI Joe unit
10:58 <spidey> lol;
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> ok, here's the problem
10:59 <spidey> "BOOM i hit you"
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm
10:59 <spidey> "no uh, i moved"
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> I was just looking at it wrong
10:59 <spidey> "no way, it's a rocket launcher!"
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> how about infantry with mobile warfare, obsoletes and upgrades riflemen?
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> then MI upgrades infantry
10:59 <spidey> yes
11:00 <spidey> we need a actual armory unit
11:00 <spidey> riflemen aren't modern
11:00 <Lucifer_arma> no, they're not.  We need guys in green camoflauge (sp?) carrying machine guns
11:01 <spidey> actually
11:01 <spidey> civ2 has those
11:01  * spidey installs civ2 to steal the pic
11:04 <spidey> :D
11:04 <spidey> now to steal the pic
11:04 <spidey> ;p
11:05 <spidey> hmm
11:05 <spidey> actually
11:05 <spidey> there's alot of units here you could use
11:05 <Lucifer_arma> mom gave me an infantry pic
11:06 <Lucifer_arma> and since I don't have paratroopers anymore, I set that as the alternate
11:06 <spidey> i have something better
11:06 <spidey> http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2997/unitscl0.gif
11:06 <spidey> that's the civ2 unit list
11:06 <spidey> :)
11:06 <spidey> that stealth fighter looks...real
11:06 <spidey> :D
11:08 <spidey> there's 2 more rocket pics atleast
11:08 <spidey> :)
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> some of those were stolen for the freeland tileset
11:08 <Lucifer_arma> which means, I've got some already ripped :)
11:09 <spidey> lol
11:09 <Lucifer_arma> that's the set I used to fill in the chart with unit icons
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> definitely want the balloon and the icbm
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> the balloon should require chemistry, carry 2 units, work like a trireme, vision of 2, no attack, no defense (it's an air unit, nothing can attack it anyway)
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> maybe defense 1
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> then with combustion, I was thinking about adding a zeppelin that can carry 4 units, go a little faster than a balloon, and cross the ocean :)
11:12 <spidey> actually
11:12 <spidey> the balloon is a spare unit
11:12 <spidey> a do make it yourself type thong
11:13 <spidey> -do
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> in civ2 it is?  I don't understand (but I decided last night I wanted balloons in the ruleset)
11:13 <spidey> lol
11:13 <spidey> yea
11:14 <spidey> you should use that fighter pic
11:14 <spidey> for stealth fighters
11:14 <spidey> tell me which ones you want and i'll cut them out/ add the white background
11:14 <spidey> or does it need to be white?
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> needs to be transparent
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> and 30x30 :)
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> if you want to grab them all.... heh
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> hang on
11:15 <spidey> transparent
11:15 <spidey> hm
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> ok, all the modern ships and air units
11:15 <spidey> i'll have to cut it and paste it on a new sheet
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> the icbm and balloons too, of course
11:15 <spidey> what about that sea creature? :p
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> ?  the gimp would let you just select by color and cut to transparent
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> ok, grab the sea creature, no idea what we'll use it for, but grab it :)
11:16 <spidey> haha
11:16 <spidey> k
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> one of the horse units for a cataphract
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> don't care which, but it shouldn't look like a knight
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> a cataphract is essentially heavy cavalry like a knight, only knights had stirrups
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's a Roman unit
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> I think what's left is in the freeland set
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I just added 9 more spots in the tileset :)
11:21 <spidey> you want the modern ships?
11:21 <spidey> 'er
11:21 <spidey> you want the old ships*
11:21 <spidey> trieme to steam engine
11:22 <Lucifer_arma> no, not the old ships
11:22 <Lucifer_arma> those look like the ones the freeland guys stole, so if we want to use them, I already broke the freeland set up into parts
11:23 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I just made it so that Legions upgrade phalanx (and cost 20 shields), and PIkemen upgrade Legions
11:23 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to make Legions require Republic, though
11:24 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh, ok, I think I've got it.  Can I require certain government types for units?
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> no, better stick with Republic being required for Legions
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, legions and pikemen aren't supposed to exist in the same army.  Cataphracts and Knights are the same relationship.
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> it would be nice if I could restrict a unit to whatever government the player has when he's building it
11:30 <spidey> you can
11:30 <spidey> fanatics are fundie only
11:31 <Lucifer_arma> that's a flag :/
11:31 <Lucifer_arma> not an option.  So if I mark a unit as "Fanatic", then you have to have a fanatic government to build it
11:32 <Lucifer_arma> that's not the same as saying "You have to be republic to build legions and cataphracts"
11:32 <Lucifer_arma> I think it'll be fine.  :)  The real question is, if you have knights and cataphracts and legions and pikemen, which combination should you have?
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> Do you get legions and knights?  Pikemen and cataphracts (the weaker combination)?
11:34 <Lucifer_arma> historically you got pikemen and knights, which is how I set up the ruleset, but I don't see a technological limitation to it
11:34 <Lucifer_arma> the right place to solve it is in governments :/
11:34 <Lucifer_arma> which iso tileset do you use?
11:37 <spidey> ?
11:37 <spidey> default?
11:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's what you use for real?
11:38 <Lucifer_arma> I think the default is just isotrident
11:38 <spidey> lol
11:38 <spidey> is 39x28 ok?
11:38  * Lucifer_arma wants to make an iso tileset with the new units in it so y'all that prefer isometric view works
11:39 <Lucifer_arma> umm, it has to be 30x30 :/
11:39 <Lucifer_arma> if you get both dimensions under 30, I can deal with it, or if you get them close to the same, like 40x40
11:40 <spidey> you say gimp lets you select colors and make them transparent?
11:42 <Lucifer_arma> not exactly
11:42 <Lucifer_arma> you select by color and do "cut"
11:42 <Lucifer_arma> and you have to have transparency enabled, you might have to make a conversion to get it
11:43 <Lucifer_arma> or, what I wind up doing, copy the background layer the hard way (highlight the whole thing), paste it into a new layer, then hide the original layer
11:43 <spidey> well
11:43 <spidey> most of these images look really distorted at 30x30
11:43 <Lucifer_arma> well
11:43 <spidey> which maybe why those other guys didn't use them
11:44 <Lucifer_arma> :)
11:44 <Lucifer_arma> hang on
11:44 <Lucifer_arma> if you can make 'em 64 x 48, I can use them in the iso set
11:44 <Lucifer_arma> turns out the isotrident tileset uses different-sized unit tiles.  I thought it used 30x30...
11:44 <spidey> blowing them up should look better :D
11:45 <spidey> especially the carrier
11:45 <spidey> it looked like a blob
11:45 <spidey> lol
11:45 <Lucifer_arma> for that, you'll need some more units that are already in the flat set :)
11:45 <Lucifer_arma> nuke cruise missile, nuke icbm (I just copied the cruise missile and nuclear unit and stuck the nuke symbol on them)
11:45 <Lucifer_arma> air transport
11:46 <Lucifer_arma> (I'll be using the stealth fighter graphic eventually)
11:46 <Lucifer_arma> mortar, infantry, nuke bomber, missile launcher
11:48 <Lucifer_arma> that's it for units I've added so far
11:48 <Lucifer_arma> for the nuke bomber I just took the regular bomber and stuck a nuke symbol on it
11:48 <Lucifer_arma> so for all the nuke versions of units, if you don't want to do them, it's fine, I'll just do the same thing I did on the flat set :)
11:49 <spidey> hmm
11:49 <spidey> these pics are 64x48
11:49 <spidey> lol
11:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, that makes it easy, doesn't it?  :)
11:50 <spidey> yea :D
11:50 <spidey> except i dunno how to make the bg transparent...
11:50 <spidey> <<ps noob =/
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11:54 <Lucifer_arma> it's hard in photoshop, I don't remember how to do it, I just remember it being a pain
11:54 <Lucifer_arma> if you can at least make the background a solid color that's not in the graphic itself, I can deal with it
11:54 <spidey> MaZuffeR, how do i make a image background transparent? :D
11:55 <MaZuffeR> i don't remember
11:56 <spidey> ;p
11:56 <spidey> luci you want the modern transport?
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh, at this point you're picking graphics for your own tileset, you decide :)
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> the next transport will be a hovercraft, so I'll have to go out somewhere else for that graphic
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, only freeciv might not quite be flexible enough for that either :/
11:58 <spidey> ??
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> a hovercraft should be able to be attacked by regular ground units
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> and travel over water and land, right?
11:58 <spidey> yea
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, to travel over water and land, you have to mark it as "air", which means land units can't attack it unless they are in turn marked as bein able to attack air units
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> but really, a phalanx can attack a hovercraft
12:02 <Lucifer_arma> nah, maybe we could use a more modern transport ship
12:02 <Lucifer_arma> then move into semiballistic rocket-powered transports
12:45 <spidey> http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1966/pryanh4x3oz4tq.gif
12:45 <spidey> watch and be entertained
12:45 <spidey> ;x
12:49 <Lucifer_arma> that was annoying spidey
12:49 <spidey> ;p
12:50 <spidey> http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3371/screenyip5.jpg
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> no, not watching it
12:53 <spidey> lol
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21:48 <Vanhayes> #g $249.99 USD in CAD
21:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:48 <Vanhayes> #g 249.99 USD in CAD
21:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: 249.99 U.S. dollars = 285.963561 Canadian dollars
21:56 <spidey> wow
21:57 <spidey> i've been getting 11- 20 pings on americas army
22:00 <wrtlprnft> got 11 pings on freenode now, too
22:02  * wrtlprnft notes that the unit is missing. I really don't know if you mean 11s^(-3) (very good) or 11s (very bad)…
22:03 <wrtlprnft> * s*10^(-3)
22:04 <spidey> ?
22:04 <spidey> anyways
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22:04 <spidey> i didn't know you could get a 10 ping on a server that isn't on your network, or on the same node as you
22:05 <spidey> best ping i've gotten until that was 16ms and that was from my moms house to here (about 100 or so miles)
22:05 <spidey> but the same isp
22:14 <spidey> i know one thing
22:14 <spidey> i got like 6-7 fps
22:15  * Lucifer_arma rubs his eyes and mutters "what day is it?"
22:15 <spidey> wednesday?
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22:26 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
22:28 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
22:28 <ghableska> #weather 50265
22:28 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (2:54 PM CST on December 06, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa. 
22:29 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
22:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h | Updated: 5:11 PM AST; Tonight - Flurries changing to periods of rain this evening. Rainfall amount 5 to 10 mm. Fog patches developing this evening. Wind south 40 km/h gusting to 60. Temperature rising to 6 by morning.; Thursday - Periods of rain. Amount (1 more message)
22:31  * luke-jr got an EFIKA :p
22:31  * luke-jr wants to play Armagetron on it, so don't bloat >:O
22:31 <luke-jr> :p
22:31 <Vanhayes> #more
22:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: 5 to 10 mm. Fog patches. Wind south 30 km/h. High 8. Thursday night..periods of rain ending early in the evening then cloudy periods. Wind becoming north 20 km/h overnight. Low minus 3.; Friday - A mix of sun and cloud. High minus 1.;
22:32 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
22:32 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 61.2°F (3:32 PM CST on December 06, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa. 
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22:33 <ghableska> hi
22:34 <DrJoeTr0n> yo
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22:38 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails cafe
22:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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22:51 <madmax|pt> hello
22:51 <ghableska> hey
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23:09 <Lucifer_arma> we want full time and we don't care if you're in school
23:14 <DrJoeTr0n> ok
23:15 <DrJoeTr0n> that was the possibly the most horrible thing i've read
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> we want full time and we don't care if you're in school
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I'll bite, what did you read that was so horrible?
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> was it this:  http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1966/pryanh4x3oz4tq.gif  ?
23:16 <DrJoeTr0n> nah
23:17 <DrJoeTr0n> some one just sold their respect online for 51 dollars
23:17 <ghableska> haha
23:17 <DrJoeTr0n> showing that they can self fellate
23:17 <DrJoeTr0n> ...
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> college girls do it for poor?
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> er
23:17 <DrJoeTr0n> guy
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> college girls do it for money?
23:17 <DrJoeTr0n> it was a man
23:17 <DrJoeTr0n> theres...there is pictures...
23:17 <DrJoeTr0n> i didnt click them
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> and you were reading this one one hand wrapped around your cock, right?
23:18 <DrJoeTr0n> no, i was trying it myself :p
23:18 <DrJoeTr0n> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2209585
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not clicking on any more somethingawful links if you don't mind :)
23:18 <DrJoeTr0n> :p
23:18 <DrJoeTr0n> all of the pics are in links
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> so, does he ever leave the house?
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, if I could self fellate, I don't know that I'd ever leave the house...
23:19 <DrJoeTr0n> well if you read the thread :p
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> I've gotta start cooking something
23:19 <DrJoeTr0n> i mean, its pretty Not Mind Safe to think about
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> what's the chances I could have a 13 pound turkey finished in 4 hours?
23:20 <DrJoeTr0n> depends
23:20 <DrJoeTr0n> deep fried or baked?
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> there is a requirement that it not be burnt
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> baked
23:20 <DrJoeTr0n> i salute you if you get it done in 4 hours
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> I used to make fun of my wife's step mother for insisting that 4 hours was all it took
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, one year my mother-in-law and I had a bit of an altercation because she insisted it only took 4 hours, and the turkey had already been in the oven for about 10
23:21 <GodTodd> heh...15 mins a lb isnt it?
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> and I said it had 3 left on it
23:21 <luke-jr> EFIKA is nice
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> + 1 hour/lb if it's stuffed
23:22 <GodTodd> i don't stuff :P
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> EFIKA = self-fellate?
23:22 <GodTodd> #cyborg efika
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> unstuffed its more like 45 minutes a pound, isnt it?
23:22 <armabot> GodTodd: E.F.I.K.A.: Electronic Fighting and Immediate Killing Android
23:22 <GodTodd> an hour for every 4 lbs iirc
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> sure, if you like raw turkey
23:23 <GodTodd> ummm no
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, actually, you have to specify a temperature too :)
23:23 <GodTodd> 350 i believe
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> I usually do 300/325, which is a slow cook
23:23 <GodTodd> i haven't had to do the turkey for thanks. for a few years 
23:23 <GodTodd> heh
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> on the smoker I aim for more like 250, which is even slower.  That 8 hour turkey turns into a 16 hour turkey
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> but I suspect that if I run it at 425 I can have the turkey done in 4 hours, it is a small turkey after all
23:24 <GodTodd> i have a hankering for a nice thick grilled steak :/
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> so, I will now go and attempt that
23:25 <luke-jr> #google EFIKA
23:25 <armabot> luke-jr: Search took 0.23 seconds: Genesi - EFIKA 5200B: <http://www.genesippc.com/efika.php>; Genesi - Press Releases: <http://www.genesippc.com/press.php?date=20051216>; PegasosPPC - Gallery for EFIKA 5K2: <http://www.pegasosppc.com/gallery.php?id=128>; Evolution of the Species: EFIKA EUREKA!: <http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2006/01/efika-eureka.html>; Evolution of the Species: EFIKA Power!: (2 more messages)
23:27  * GodTodd wonders if we fall all over him and profess jealousy if luke will stfu...
23:27 <Van-hayes> #list alias
23:27 <armabot> Van-hayes: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, lastseen, lock, log, log, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
23:27 <Van-hayes> #uberinsult
23:27 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
23:28 <Van-hayes> ha
23:28 <luke-jr> haha
23:28 <luke-jr> I just tried to exec x86 on ppc\
23:30 <GodTodd> good for you
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23:30 <GodTodd> i had a really satisfying shit earlier
23:30 <ghableska> heh
23:31  * ghableska thinks the latter is much more interesting
23:31 <GodTodd> :D
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> why does ground beef smell so good and taste so bad?
23:31 <ghableska> because it's ground beef
23:31 <GodTodd> especially if you were there to smell it ;)
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> more importantly, why the fuck is there ground beef on my burner?
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> I took a shit the other day that smelled good enough to eat
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> it was scary
23:32 <GodTodd> i should get karen a gas mask for xmas....my kids take after me and when we have onions or beans this house gets kinda smelly
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> you know what I've always wondered?
23:33 <GodTodd> why we have butt cracks?
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> and maybe luke-jr (hi there!) can answer this for me
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> no
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> when Jesus took a shit, did it ever smell?  I mean, he was a man, right?  Men periodically take really smelly dumps.  How did Jesus's shit smell?
23:34 <GodTodd> probably bad...he ate fish and drank lots of wine
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> moreover, did he properly wipe and get every little turd off, and then properly wash his hands?
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> It was ~0 AD, they didn't have toilet paper
23:34 <GodTodd> wash hands?
23:35 <GodTodd> all i know is his diaper had to have been really ripe by the time he died on the cross
23:36 <ghableska> >_>
23:36 <GodTodd> we don't know these things because like all good fiction the bible doesn't go into such mundane matters :)
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> lies
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> even tarzan took a shit
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> granted those were written starting around the turn of the 20th century
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> I think it matters because if the Bible really and truly is timeless, then it should be able to accomodate future audiences
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23:47 <Lucifer_arma> and the Bible's future audiences include a past audience and a present audience that was interested in such things
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> God knows all, he knows what the future will bring, right?  Therefore, you'd think he would have mentioned something like "make sure you document Jesus taking a shit after the Sermon on the Mount"
23:48 <Lucifer_arma> the absence of such information may not dismiss the timelessness of the Bible, but it should at least cast some doubt
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23:55 <Lucifer_arma> so, they say they might have seen evidence of recent liquid water flowing on mars
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> does that mean they'll find beer next?

Log from 2006-12-07:
--- Day changed Thu Dec 07 2006
00:05 <DrJoeTr0n> Rocketman was the best mars expedition documentary ever!
00:06 <ghableska> has anyone here tried 3d Studio Max?
00:06 <GodTodd> if they find beer on mars i'm going
00:07 <luke-jr> ghableska: sux
00:08 <GodTodd> that probably means it rules
00:09 <DrJoeTr0n> ghableska  i have
00:09 <DrJoeTr0n> its pretty overwhelming
00:09 <DrJoeTr0n> i used to know how to use it
00:09 <ghableska> ah :)
00:09 <GodTodd> luke's reviews are a lot like movie critic reviews....if the review is bad, i'll probably like it
00:09 <DrJoeTr0n> but i forgot most of it
00:09 <ghableska> heh
00:09 <DrJoeTr0n> i took a class in it
00:10 <DrJoeTr0n> and i made bombs out of everything i did
00:10  * ghableska is having fun with reactor
00:10 <DrJoeTr0n> haha
00:10 <DrJoeTr0n> i recreated tron for my final project
00:10 <ghableska> trying to get the ragdoll script to work
00:10 <DrJoeTr0n> im such a dork
00:10 <ghableska> cool
00:10 <ghableska> :P
00:11 <DrJoeTr0n> i need to learn how to make light cycles
00:11 <DrJoeTr0n> because i need to finish my movie pack finallly
00:11 <DrJoeTr0n> among the other ones im workin gon
00:11 <GodTodd> well, first you take some light....then you cycle it through something
00:15 <DrJoeTr0n> it turns into something gnarly
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> http://heritage.stsci.edu/2000/06/big.html  <-- That nebula is giving us the bird
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> I think I want it for my avatar
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00:42 <Lucifer_arma> wahahaha, that's an awesome avatar :)
00:42 <ghableska> the nebula?
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> the one that looks like the middle finger
00:43 <ghableska> :P
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=118011#118011
00:48 <ghableska> :)
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01:09 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:09 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (5:54 PM CST on December 06, 2006). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa. 
01:09 <GodTodd> so, jesus really does think we're jerks?
01:09 <GodTodd> heh
01:09 <ghableska> light snow?
01:10 <GodTodd> opposite of heavy snow?
01:10 <ghableska> it might just mean that...
01:10 <GodTodd> or opposite of dark snow for all i know ;)
01:11  * ghableska runs to luke-jr for further clarification :)
01:11 <GodTodd> haha
01:11 <ghableska> ;)
01:11 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr - http://atheistdelusion.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
01:11 <Your_mom_arma> so funny
01:12 <ghableska> hahaha
01:12 <ghableska> "it says there right there, on page one"
01:18 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6213644.stm <-- hahahahaha
01:21 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
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01:40 <Lucifer_arma> is this a serious presentation?
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> aha, ok, it's not a serious presentation :)
01:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=210316&cid=17137366  <--- bahahahaha
01:48 <ghableska> haha
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> I was expecting some pseudoscience crackpot link.  Took me by surprise, made my kids laugh too without knowing what they were laughing about
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> Leaders at Texas conference join McKissic's call for more freedom
02:00 <Lucifer_arma> anyone want to know the freedom they want?
02:15 <Seyahnav> #weather saint john
02:15 <armabot> Seyahnav: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 25mph / 41km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM AST; Tonight - Flurries changing to periods of rain this evening. Rainfall amount 5 to 10 mm. Fog patches developing this evening. Wind south 40 km/h gusting to 60. Temperature rising to 6 by morning.; Thursday - Periods of rain. Amount 5 to 10 (1 more message)
02:16 <Seyahnav> #moe
02:16 <Seyahnav> #more
02:16 <armabot> Seyahnav: mm. Fog patches. Wind south 30 km/h. High 8. Thursday night..periods of rain ending early in the evening then cloudy periods. Wind becoming north 20 km/h overnight. Low minus 3.; Friday - A mix of sun and cloud. High minus 1.;
02:16 <Seyahnav> #night
02:16 <armabot> Good night Seyahnav!
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02:39 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:39 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 26.6°F (6:54 PM CST on December 06, 2006). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa. 
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03:27 <Arma74> #dict Subvitrieous
03:27 <armabot> Arma74: No definition for "Subvitrieous" could be found.
03:28 <Arma74> #dict subvitreous
03:28 <armabot> Arma74: No definition for "subvitreous" could be found.
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03:29 <Your_mom_arma> why login here on a java client to check a definition when you could use google
03:29 <ghableska> lmao
03:29 <ghableska> #uberinsult
03:29 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
03:30 <luke-jr> lol
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> I love my new avatar
03:47 <ghableska> :)
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03:53 <Lucifer_arma> http://openclipart.org/clipart//people/architetto_francesco_ro_01.svg  <--- engineers?
03:56 <DrJoeTr0n> hang is back :D
03:59 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah?
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> did he get tired of that kangaroo chick he was chasing?
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04:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm taking my turkey out and I'm 95% confident it's cooked all the way through
04:32 <DrJoeTr0n> hahaha
04:32 <DrJoeTr0n> did you put a thermometer in?
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> no, I'm psychic
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> I will though, don't worry
04:34 <DrJoeTr0n> so
04:34 <DrJoeTr0n> is there a way to block java clients from entering this channel?
04:35 <DrJoeTr0n> because that would make life much grander
04:37 <ghableska> haha
04:49 <ghableska> #night
04:49 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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05:19 <Lucifer_arma> no need for a thermometer, the fucking thing was falling apart
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe I cooked a 4 hour turkey, but I pulled it off
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> it was good, too
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> #g 1417.50 + 1293.75
05:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 1,417.50 + 1,293.75 = 2,711.25
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: did you get those units ripped for the iso tileset?
06:01 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> hrmm?
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> just added a balloon to my ruleset :)
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> you get it with Chemistry
06:06 <GodTodd> cool :)
06:06 <GodTodd> finals next week :)
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> it is about that time again, isn't it?
06:07 <GodTodd> yep
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> I also gave explorers vision of 2, to make them good scouts
06:07 <GodTodd> but i'm totally done with c++
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah?  final project--no final test?
06:08 <GodTodd> nah...final project and final test but the teacher is going to be having surgery next tuesday so bumped it all up a week
06:09 <GodTodd> actually...bumped two weeks i think
06:09 <GodTodd> whatever we took the final a week ago tuesday :)
06:12 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: biowarfare?
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> need better support in the engine for that :/
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> althugh I've considered having a chemical weapon that spits out pollution squares, if that's possible
06:13 <luke-jr> aww
06:13 <luke-jr> nuclear does something like that
06:13 <luke-jr> make a plane that can spray it
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/gettingstarted.php
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> http://wargamer.sourceforge.net/  <--- too bad it's windows only
06:32 <luke-jr> http://google.com/search?btnI=I&q=EFIKA
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> I want a WWII simulation
06:36 <luke-jr> WWII sucked
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> yes, it did, but it's the largest war in history, and therefore makes a fun strategy game
06:39 <luke-jr> :p
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> I want a general purpose strategy wargame engine
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think I saw one on sourceforge...
06:46 <DrJoeTr0n> when are we allowed to flame the people shitting up the boards?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> so, are we going to resume a freeciv game tonight?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTr0n: anytime?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> you want to flame kyle?
06:47 <DrJoeTr0n> i dont pay attention to his posts
06:47 <DrJoeTr0n> hoax's
06:47 <DrJoeTr0n> "DOOD LOOK AT DAT LAG
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> I don't read hoax's posts, heh
06:49 <DrJoeTr0n> can tank change peoples avatars?
06:49 <DrJoeTr0n> because i got one for canada
06:49 <DrJoeTr0n> http://67.36.178.146/kng.jpg
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> yes, why?
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 67.36.178.146.
06:49 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah, just saw that
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> *shameless avatar plug*
06:50 <DrJoeTr0n> hmmm
06:54 <DrJoeTr0n> ok
06:54 <DrJoeTr0n> http://67.36.178.146/kng.jpg i forgot i changed mac addresses
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> we need irc avatars
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> man, this turkey gravy I made is fucking awesome
06:57 <DrJoeTr0n> we need to kill that browser client
06:57 <DrJoeTr0n> because god damn
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> is he really only 12, or is he just some underdeveloped teenager?
07:00 <DrJoeTr0n> arent they one in the same?
07:00 <DrJoeTr0n> im pretty sure he is only 12
07:01 <DrJoeTr0n> you gotta be 13 to be on without parental permission :p
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here got scorched 3d?
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: luke-jr (hi there!) ping
07:08 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: KVIrc supports avatars
07:09 <luke-jr> no civ tonight
07:09 <luke-jr> Fri maybe
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/
07:10 <DrJoeTr0n> ive heard and seen it a bunch of times
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> play it?
07:11 <DrJoeTr0n> nope
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> I'm installing it, I've played it before and it's a lot of fun
07:11 <DrJoeTr0n> was playin gunbound at the time, didnt need another one
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> looks like you can have up to 24 other players
07:11 <spidey> dude
07:11 <spidey> i get
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> really?  gunbound's an artillery game?
07:11 <DrJoeTr0n> i thought it was only 4
07:11 <spidey> 7fps in americas army
07:11 <spidey> 7!
07:11 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah thats what gunbound is
07:11 <spidey> but it runs smoothly
07:11 <spidey> i don't get it
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> motion blur?
07:11 <DrJoeTr0n> americas army blows
07:12 <spidey> you blow
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, come play scorched3d with me :)
07:12 <spidey> ??
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> maybe we can get joe to play
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> [00:09] <Lucifer_arma> http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/
07:12 <DrJoeTr0n> i remember scorched earth
07:12 <DrJoeTr0n> bah! you fuckers
07:13 <spidey> stfu and get it
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> I never played scorched earth, but sexylosers had a fun parody of it
07:13 <spidey> you make me get all these games >.>
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:13 <DrJoeTr0n> gunbound was cool if you knew who you were playing with
07:13 <spidey> americas army => 3.14gb
07:13 <spidey> ;/
07:13 <DrJoeTr0n> but most of the time it drove you crazy
07:13 <DrJoeTr0n> americas army sucks spidey
07:13 <DrJoeTr0n> uninstall it
07:13 <DrJoeTr0n> you're better than this
07:14 <luke-jr> lol
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> he loves his country, what's wrong with that?
07:14 <DrJoeTr0n> do i need to upgrade?
07:14 <spidey> pay my internet bill or something else, then i might
07:14 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: his country sucks, that's what's wrong with it
07:14 <spidey> till then ~i~ am playing it
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't ask what was wrong with his country...
07:14 <spidey> ...
07:14 <spidey> luke
07:14 <luke-jr> spid
07:14 <DrJoeTr0n> silly missourians, they forget what country they are in sometimes.
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> anybody finish installing scorched3d yet?
07:14 <spidey> if it sucks so much why are you still here?
07:15 <luke-jr> spidey: I never said there was a better alternative
07:15 <spidey> 7 seconds
07:15 <spidey> then stfu
07:15 <DrJoeTr0n> 2 minutes
07:15 <luke-jr> just because US sucks least doesn't change the fact that it sucks
07:15 <DrJoeTr0n> do i need to patch?
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> not that I know of....
07:15 <DrJoeTr0n> ok
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> it's open source, no problems, right?
07:16 <spidey> ok luci
07:16 <spidey> what do i do?
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> don't know yet, still waiting for the rpm to install
07:16 <spidey> lol
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> it's been ~8 months since I last played it
07:16 <spidey> i already got it installed :D
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> had to install openAL too
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> the progress bar says it's done, though
07:17 <spidey> 640x480
07:17 <spidey> hell no
07:17 <DrJoeTr0n> cant handle it spidey?
07:17 <spidey> to small
07:18 <spidey> had to turn it up ;x
07:18 <spidey> "failed to open sound device"
07:18 <spidey> wtf
07:18 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cefef8f29c
07:19 <spidey> i had to disable sound
07:19 <spidey> heh
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> er, I missed what port it started on, heh
07:19 <DrJoeTr0n> installed and somewhat configured
07:19 <spidey> ..
07:20 <spidey> these "human" looking guys suck :D
07:20 <spidey> they're flat
07:20 <spidey> and green
07:20 <spidey> and look like building blocks o.O
07:20 <spidey> kenny!
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> bender!
07:21 <spidey> haha
07:21 <spidey> they have sonic
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> ok, connect to www.davefancella.com of course :)
07:22 <spidey> 'er
07:22 <spidey> gotta patch
07:22 <spidey> sec
07:24 <spidey> the hell
07:24 <spidey> luci
07:24 <spidey> you downloadedthe ubuntu package didn't you?
07:25 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
07:25 <spidey> me and joe can't play on your server
07:25 <spidey> probably anyone else to..
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> thing was broke
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> bigtime broke :/
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> I used the mandriva package, why?
07:26 <spidey> says you're running version 40
07:27 <spidey> and windows version is 40.1
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> what's the problem with that?  too old or something?
07:27 <spidey> yea
07:27 <spidey> i patched and it still says that
07:27 <spidey> =/
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> ok, downloading the rpm given by the scorched3d site
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> text was all screwed up, I couldn't read anything
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> what's this patch thing they're talking about?
07:28 <spidey> ?
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> you guys keep talking about patching something
07:30 <spidey> nvm
07:30 <spidey> it's just a windows patch
07:30 <spidey> wrong one, heh
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> ok, started the server by itself
07:31 <DrJoeTr0n> ok
07:31 <DrJoeTr0n> im ready
07:31 <DrJoeTr0n> Lucifer_arma do you have server info for me?
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> hang on, I was starting the server, then my web browser said "it's downloaded, want to isntall?"
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> so just a minute...
07:32 <spidey> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with dave
07:32 <armabot> spidey: [07:24:36] <Lucifer_arma> ok, connect to www.davefancella.com of course :)
07:32 <DrJoeTr0n> ten four
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> this package wanted libstdc++
07:32 <DrJoeTr0n> this could prove interesting
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> which probably explains what was broken in the other package, stdc++ has localization stuff in it, iirc
07:33 <spidey> i want breakfast, but i don't feel like making it ;/
07:34 <luke-jr> my Chicago server rental is officially cancelled
07:34 <spidey> ?
07:34 <luke-jr> lightfoot
07:34 <spidey> heh
07:35 <spidey> gimme a link where you got it :p
07:35 <luke-jr> why
07:35 <spidey> why not
07:35 <luke-jr> cuz I'd rather get business than competitors? :p
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07:35 <luke-jr> ...
07:35 <spidey> what buisness you canceled
07:36 <luke-jr> yeah, cuz nobody has Chicago hosting right now
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07:36 <spidey> lol
07:36 <luke-jr> If someone buys Chicago service from me, I rent a new one
07:36 <luke-jr> big deal
07:36 <spidey> if i wanted to compete with you it wouldn't be hard
07:36 <luke-jr> maybe with a different company
07:36 <spidey> i don't really even play tron anymore ;x
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> ok, server's started
07:37 <luke-jr> heh
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com
07:37 <luke-jr> www sux
07:37 <luke-jr> :p
07:37 <luke-jr> SRV records should be mandatory
07:37 <luke-jr> etc
07:37 <luke-jr> k ttyl
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07:39 <DrJoeTron> that was super keen
07:39 <DrJoeTron> ok im ready
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> man, these fonts are all fucked up still
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> can't see shit for words
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07:40 <spidey_> gee
07:40 <spidey_> how thoughful of them
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07:41 <spidey> btw
07:41 <spidey> i can't play
07:41 <spidey> it crashes my vid drivers
07:42 <spidey> and i booted to the wrong install
07:42 <spidey> brb
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07:43 <Lucifer_arma> man
07:44 <DrJoeTron> yeah
07:44 <DrJoeTron> intel integerated sucks
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07:44 <spidey> ok
07:44 <spidey> #last --nolimit
07:44 <armabot> spidey: [07:47:39] <spidey> ok, [07:47:30] <DrJoeTron> intel integerated sucks, [07:47:25] <DrJoeTron> yeah, [07:45:54] <Lucifer_arma> man, [07:45:04] <spidey> brb, [07:45:04] <spidey> and i booted to the wrong install, [07:45:04] <spidey> it crashes my vid drivers, [07:45:03] <spidey> i can't play, [07:45:03] <spidey> btw, [07:45:03] <spidey_> how thoughful of them, [07:45:02] <spidey_> gee, [07:43:08] <Lucifer_arma> (50 more messages)
07:45 <DrJoeTron> thats why dell makes horrible computers if you plan on using them for anything other than using Calc.exe
07:45 <spidey> ....
07:47 <spidey> how about freeciv? Lucifer_arma luke-jr 
07:47 <spidey> ;p
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> man, this is thoroughly disappointing
07:47 <GodTodd> luke-jr sux
07:47 <spidey> #more
07:47 <armabot> spidey: can't see shit for words, [07:43:03] <Lucifer_arma> man, these fonts are all fucked up still, [07:42:03] <DrJoeTron> ok im ready, [07:42:01] <DrJoeTron> that was super keen, [07:40:26] <luke-jr> k ttyl, [07:40:23] <luke-jr> etc, [07:40:23] <luke-jr> SRV records should be mandatory, [07:40:02] <luke-jr> :p, [07:40:00] <luke-jr> www sux, [07:39:51] <Lucifer_arma> www.davefancella.com, [07:39:50] <luke-jr> heh, (49 more messages)
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> because, you know, we're all going to have lots of fun playing scorched3d if the damn thing would just work :/
07:47 <DrJoeTron> damn it!
07:48 <spidey> #more
07:48 <armabot> spidey: [07:39:45] <Lucifer_arma> ok, server's started, [07:39:44] <spidey> i don't really even play tron anymore ;x, [07:39:34] <luke-jr> maybe with a different company, [07:39:34] <spidey> if i wanted to compete with you it wouldn't be hard, [07:39:18] <luke-jr> big deal, [07:39:16] <luke-jr> If someone buys Chicago service from me, I rent a new one, [07:39:14] <spidey> lol, [07:38:54] <luke-jr> yeah, cuz nobody has (48 more messages)
07:48 <DrJoeTron> i'm staying up for this Lucifer_arma  You're ruining christmas!
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> but I've got no fonts, so the game's unplayable
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know if I'm clicking on "play game" or "change your tampon"
07:48 <spidey> lol
07:49 <spidey> how about freeciv..
07:49 <spidey> i wanna finish that game :D
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> sure, just us, or does GodTodd (hi there!) want to jump in?
07:49 <DrJoeTron> im pretty sure you're clicking "make spidey obsess over a crappy game"
07:49 <DrJoeTron> no wait
07:49 <DrJoeTron> you're clicking "make DrJoeTron type worse"
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I changed the ruleset a bit, don't know if it'll work
07:49 <spidey> ...
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> how baout I click "get DrJoeTron (hi there!) to play freeciv instead"
07:50 <DrJoeTron> next week
07:50 <spidey> lol
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> you said that last week
07:50 <DrJoeTron> i said that 24 hours ago
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07:51 <Arma54> i got in!!!
07:51 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i was talking about that one where you was about to invade luke-jr 
07:51 -!- Arma54 is now known as Pilot
07:51 <DrJoeTron> see if you can get out :)
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr doesn't want to play tonight
07:51 -!- Pilot is now known as Pilot_
07:51 <spidey> ...
07:52 <spidey> hm
07:52 <spidey> didn't i say i wasn't playing anymore with him anyways?
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, yeah, who unlocked the door here?
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> something about him wussing out when it's time to restore?
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I've started some savegame on my server, no idea which one though, heh
07:53 <spidey> well
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> it has a luke-jr away ai in it
07:53 <spidey> i refuse to play with luke anymore :D
07:53 <spidey> he never finishes a game
07:53 <GodTodd> of course not...he's always on the verge of losing ;)
07:53 <DrJoeTron> is defcon out for linux yet?
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, heh, I don't know if we'll finish this one, it's a large map with lots of ais, and I'm getting damn sick of fighting ais
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: come join this game for awhile, take an ai :)
07:53 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:54 <GodTodd> i really shouldn't
07:54 <GodTodd> :/
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> well then don't, up to you
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> :)
07:54 <GodTodd> heh
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08:06 <DrJoeTron> http://averagebattlefield2game.ytmnd.com/ ahhahaha
08:09 <DrJoeTron> so nothing going on about scorch3d?
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> no, we went to freeciv instead, sorry
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> scorched is unplayable on my machine because of weird font shit :/
08:12 <DrJoeTron> night
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08:29 <Arma883> hey
08:29 <Arma883> anyone there
08:30 <GodTodd> no
08:30 <Arma883> lol
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09:42 <custang> hey all :)
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13:45 <spidey> #cnn 38256
13:45 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 31.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Wind: NNW at 5 mph (8 km/h).
14:07 <spidey> #g 6y - [-8y]
14:07 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:33 <spidey> #g 30 usd in ca
14:33 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:33 <spidey> #g 30 usd in cad
14:34 <armabot> spidey: 30 U.S. dollars = 34.24200 Canadian dollars
14:34 <spidey> #g 30CAD in USD
14:34 <armabot> spidey: 30 Canadian dollars = 26.2835115 U.S. dollars
14:42 <spidey> #g 5-6
14:42 <armabot> spidey: 5 - 6 = -1
14:44 <spidey> #g 7x - 3y - 9x - 4y
14:44 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:44 <spidey> ..
14:44 <spidey> #g 7x - 3y
14:44 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:44 <spidey> ghey
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15:59 <Arma886> gh
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16:14 <CT|P4> hello
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17:53 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6475 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/network/nSocket.cpp: Reverted a change from the mingw cross compilation fixes; the include of unistd.h really is required on BSD platforms.
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19:46 <DrJoeTron> fuck today!
19:46 <DrJoeTron> my car got lodged in the snow, i tore my pants, and I missed my final
19:50 <luke-jr_work> you have a car?
19:51  * luke-jr_work didn't think they licensed people so young
19:52 <luke-jr_work> or are you older, just immature?
19:56  * wrtlprnft didn't think they let people as childish as luke-jr_work connect to FreeNode…
19:56 <luke-jr_work> actually, that was a serious question :p
19:57 <DrJoeTron> im 20
19:57 <luke-jr_work> wow
19:58 <luke-jr_work> anyway
19:58 <DrJoeTron> mom
19:58 <luke-jr_work> I'd imagine they'd let you retake the final
19:58 <DrJoeTron> well i went in
19:58 <DrJoeTron> and he said keep the grade i have now or take the final
19:58 <luke-jr_work> O.o
19:58 <DrJoeTron> so i kept my grade
19:59 <luke-jr_work> heh
19:59 <luke-jr_work> that works
19:59 <luke-jr_work> so why are you complaining about missing it? :p
19:59 <DrJoeTron> because it made my heart sink for an hour as i dug my car out of the snow
19:59 <DrJoeTron> and no one would let me back out so i could get the car out so i just sunk in deeper
20:00 <DrJoeTron> no point of having 4 wheel drive if i cant fucking back out
20:00 <luke-jr_work> er, a busy road? :\
20:00 <DrJoeTron> yeah
20:00 <DrJoeTron> with retarded college kids
20:00 <DrJoeTron> more retarded than i
20:00 <luke-jr_work> heh
20:01 <luke-jr_work> no cell?
20:01 <DrJoeTron> i have one
20:01 <luke-jr_work> could've called police and asked them to block the road for a few min
20:01 <luke-jr_work> or smth
20:01 <DrJoeTron> i did
20:02 <DrJoeTron> "AHHHH NAH I GOTS DA GO TO A MEETIN" YOU COULDA GET A TOW TRUCK BUT YA GOTTA SHELL OUT LIKE EIGHTY BUCKS
20:02 <luke-jr_work> wtf
20:02 <DrJoeTron> "well do you think you could give me a shovel?
20:02 <luke-jr_work> call friend or someone?
20:02 <DrJoeTron> DAHH, I SPOSE I COULD IL BE BACK ARIGHT?
20:03 <DrJoeTron> such a thick south side chicago acsent
20:03 <DrJoeTron> the closest i have right now untill next week is 40 miles away
20:04 <luke-jr_work> :/
20:04 <DrJoeTron> i eventually got the car out
20:05 <luke-jr_work> I noticed :p
20:05 <DrJoeTron> i finally got a hold of my brother and i told him to block the lane up with his car so i could drive the car out.
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20:18 <spidey> oh i thought i had closed this one
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20:20 <luke-jr_work> spidey: foo
20:20 <luke-jr_work> anyone here a hardware expert?
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20:21 <Durka> hi lazer
20:21 <Arma52> nice chat
20:21 <spidey> ....
20:21 -!- Arma52 is now known as Lazer
20:21 <Durka> u 4got to change ur name...
20:21 <Durka> ok cool
20:21 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:21 <spidey> luke-jr_work, why you always needing a expert, i thought you knew everything
20:21 <Lazer> private chat ?
20:21 <luke-jr_work> spidey: you say it is so
20:21 <Durka> no its ok
20:22 <Durka> its the developers from arma oon here
20:22 <Durka> except spidey...hes a n00b
20:22 <Lazer> ok i open config.cfr
20:22 <spidey> what hardware?
20:22 <spidey> Durka, shush
20:22 <Durka> no open user.cfg
20:22 <luke-jr_work> wtf is a cfr
20:22 <Lazer> ok
20:22 <luke-jr_work> spidey: EFIKA-like
20:22  * Durka drowns spidey in colors
20:22 <Durka> maz are u here?
20:22 <luke-jr_work> Durka: look at your fscking userlist
20:22 <spidey> i just spent 3 hours sitting in a place for absolutely nothing besides hearing the kids act like complete retards
20:22 <spidey> worse than DrJoeTron 
20:23 <luke-jr_work> #google EFIKA
20:23 <spidey> then i go ask "have you finished grading my self test yet?"
20:23 <Durka> lol
20:23 <armabot> luke-jr_work: Search took 0.35 seconds: Genesi - EFIKA 5200B: <http://www.genesippc.com/efika.php>; Genesi - Press Releases: <http://www.genesippc.com/press.php?date=20051216>; PegasosPPC - Gallery for EFIKA 5K2: <http://www.pegasosppc.com/gallery.php?id=128>; Evolution of the Species: EFIKA EUREKA!: <http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2006/01/efika-eureka.html>; Evolution of the Species: EFIKA Power!: (2 more messages)
20:23 <spidey> ugh....we're sorry it's to late to test
20:23  * Durka is sorry
20:23 <spidey> >:|
20:23 <Durka> have u found it lazer?
20:23 <spidey> Lazer, efika?
20:23 <spidey> 'er
20:23 <spidey> luke-jr_work, efika?
20:23 <Lazer> i havent user.cfg
20:24 <luke-jr_work> spidey: I just googled it for you
20:24 <Durka> its in C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\Armagetron Advanced\var\user.cfg
20:24 <Durka> look around there
20:24 <spidey> no you didn't
20:24 <Lazer> ah ok
20:24 <spidey> armabot did
20:24 <luke-jr_work> #google EFIKA
20:24 <armabot> luke-jr_work: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
20:24 <luke-jr_work> o.o
20:25 <spidey> ?
20:25 <spidey> #google test
20:25 <spidey> wtf is that???
20:25 <armabot> spidey: Search took 0.23 seconds: Test Central Home: <http://www.test.com/>; Bandwidth Speed Test: <http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/>; Geek Out with the Original Geek Test: <http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html>; SparkLife: <http://community.sparknotes.com/>; Testing Foundations - Brian Marick: <http://www.testing.com/>; Personality test based on Jung - Myers-Briggs typology: (1 more message)
20:25 <spidey> a mini mobo?
20:25 <Lazer> user_30 or user ?
20:25 <Durka> just user.cfg
20:25 <Durka> in the var folder right?
20:26 <luke-jr_work> spidey: sure
20:26 <Lazer> ok
20:26 <Lazer>     INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_11 0xff8800!!!  0x000000BEL0xffff88GI0xff0000UM  0xff8800!!!
20:26 <luke-jr_work> spidey: you get it free if you help me make it into a mini laptop
20:26 <Lazer> oops no
20:26 <Durka> in var right?
20:26 <Lazer> yes
20:26 <Durka> ok
20:26 <Lazer> its open
20:26 <spidey> huh?
20:27 <Durka> fine the one that is ur default one
20:27 <spidey> btw is that a mac board?
20:27 <luke-jr_work> spidey: no
20:27 <spidey> k
20:27 <luke-jr_work> it's PowerPC non-Apple
20:27 <Durka> like INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_blahblah 0xff0000B0xff0000\
20:27 <spidey> ppc is a different platform right?
20:27 <Durka> something like that
20:27 <Durka> find it
20:28 <luke-jr_work> spidey: PPC = PowerPC
20:28 <luke-jr_work> Apple used to use it
20:28 <Durka> replace B with ﬂ
20:28 <Lazer> ?? i miss "INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_x " 1<x<10 !
20:28 <spidey> btw
20:28 <Durka> fine the one u use to talk
20:28 <spidey> how do you plan to make that into a mini laptop?
20:28 <Durka> it says
20:29 <Durka> 0xff0000B0xffff00\
20:29 <spidey> it doesn't have integrated graphics
20:29 <Durka> or something like that
20:29 <luke-jr_work> spidey: redesigning the board, adding a GPU, etc
20:30 <Durka> find it yet?
20:31 <Lazer> i found every chat except the with x and /team x  :s  in case of the last i have : /team //
20:31 <luke-jr_work> you mean \
20:31 <luke-jr_work> foo
20:31 <spidey> ...
20:31 <luke-jr_work> spidey: ...
20:31 <spidey> what's he talkingabout?
20:31 <luke-jr_work> so I'm guessing you lack the hw skillz too?
20:32 <spidey> ...
20:32 <Lazer> aaaah
20:32 <Lazer> it is in user_3_0
20:32 <Lazer>     INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_14 0xff000BB0xfff000\\
20:32 <Durka> ok
20:32 <Lazer> what do i have to do ?
20:32 <Durka> replace B with
20:32  * luke-jr_work strangles Lazer for typoing
20:32 <Durka> ﬂ
20:32 <Durka> thats one letter
20:32 <Durka> just copy it
20:32 <Durka> and paste
20:32 <Durka> test it out
20:33 <Durka> it should show up as ß
20:33 <wrtlprnft> o_O
20:33 <Durka> hey wrtl
20:33 <wrtlprnft> Only idiots write in color all the time!
20:33 <wrtlprnft> hi
20:33 <Durka> lol
20:34 <Durka> how do you right in color in irc :[
20:34 <luke-jr_work> haha
20:34 <wrtlprnft> depends on your client
20:34 <luke-jr_work> don't tell Durka 
20:34 <Lazer> to delete the bookmarks, just delete the bookmarks in user.cfg ?
20:34 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: don't worry
20:34 <Durka> u can do tht
20:34 <Lazer> ok ty
20:34 <Durka> or delete them ingame
20:34 <wrtlprnft> Lazer: delete every line containing BOOKMARK
20:34 <Durka> tell me if the ß works
20:34 <luke-jr_work> it doesn't
20:34 <Durka> go into local game and test it
20:35 <Durka> ﬂ somehow = ß
20:35 <Lazer> ok i go try
20:35 <Durka> k
20:35  * spidey sets a new irinstant chat
20:35  * Durka pokes Maz...is he here?
20:36  * wrtlprnft ponders ﬂ has to do with ß
20:36  * spidey presses F1
20:36 <spidey> "OMG IT'S DURKA EVERYONE PRETEND TO BE IDLE"
20:36 <wrtlprnft> ﬂ is 0xfb02 in UTF-8, and ß is 0xdf…
20:37 <Durka> lol
20:37 <Durka> very nice
20:38  * Durka press F2
20:38 <Durka> "SO...SHALL WE BE HEADING OFF TO THAT CUSTOM CONNECT GAME THAT SPIDEY CAN'T GET INTO?"
20:38 <spidey> ....
20:38 <spidey> why would i care?
20:38 <Durka> :)
20:39  * Durka learned who GodTodd was today
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20:39 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:39 <spidey> ....
20:39 <luke-jr_work> wait
20:39 <Durka> ...
20:39 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd plays arma??
20:39 <spidey> LOL
20:39 <Durka> i dont think so
20:39 <luke-jr_work> I thought he just hung out here and chats
20:40 <z3> how 180
20:40 <luke-jr_work> wtf is z3
20:40 <Durka> http://www.davefancella.com/node/105
20:40 <Durka> godtodd is lucis friend
20:41 <spidey> no shit?
20:41 <luke-jr_work> no rly?
20:41 <Durka> HEY im a n00b
20:41 <Durka> settle down
20:41  * Durka hides in corner
20:41  * luke-jr_work saves that quote
20:42 <spidey> #quote add <Durka> HEY im a n00b
20:42 <armabot> spidey: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:42 <DrJoeTron> get outta town!
20:42 <spidey> #quote add <Durka> HEY im a n00b
20:42 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.  Quote #36 added.
20:42  * Durka can't connect to any Luke-Jr. US server
20:42 <spidey> #quote get 36
20:42 <armabot> spidey: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
20:42 <DrJoeTron> save it to notepad
20:43 <Durka> #quote get 35
20:43 <armabot> Durka: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
20:43 <spidey> lol
20:43 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
20:43 <Durka> #quote get 34
20:43 <DrJoeTron> #q
20:43 <armabot> Durka: Quote #34: "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady" (added by spidey at 01:17 AM, November 11, 2006)
20:43 <luke-jr_work> Durka: it's probably gone
20:43 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
20:43 <Durka> #quote get 33
20:43 <armabot> Durka: Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
20:43 <Durka> #quote get 1
20:43 <armabot> Durka: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
20:43 <Durka> lol
20:44 <Lazer> shit all my config fucked up
20:44 -!- z3 [n=z3000@216.184.124.207] has left #armagetron ["Konversation terminated!"]
20:44 <wrtlprnft> who is Lazer anyways
20:44 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen Lazer 
20:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Lazer has last been seen on -=|LoD|=- Sumo Temporary Server 14 minutes ago.
20:44 <Lazer> lol
20:45 <wrtlprnft> must be playing on other servers than i am
20:45 <Durka> #quite add <spidey> lol
20:45 <Lazer> I'm the finalist of the Sumo Tournament
20:45 <spidey> ...
20:45 <spidey> noob
20:45 <Lazer> a :P
20:45 <Durka> sumo tounament
20:45 <Durka> it never started lol
20:45 <Lazer> no but i'm not bad
20:45 <Durka> how could u be in the finals???
20:45 <wrtlprnft> but in fact he played over 38 hours since 24 Sept 2006
20:45 <Lazer> i lied :'(
20:46 <wrtlprnft> that's 2.6% of the time since them!
20:46 <Durka> as hellion wrote on the arma forums: Wrtlpwned
20:46 <Lazer> is 38h much ?
20:46 <wrtlprnft> more than 1½ days
20:46  * wrtlprnft should stfu w/ his 52.5 hours
20:46 <Durka> wrtl: make it start fresh at the new year
20:46 <wrtlprnft> Durka: probably need to anyways
20:46 <DrJoeTron> quit adding crap the quote list
20:46 <Lazer> durka, when i set fl, it ask me to save in Unicode
20:47 <Lazer> i did it and all my config gone
20:47 <Lazer> can u repass me that fl ?
20:47 <wrtlprnft> loool
20:47 <wrtlprnft> ﬂﬂﬂﬂﬂ
20:47 <Durka> ok go back
20:47 <Durka> and dont use f1
20:47 <Durka> use ß
20:47 <Durka> then try
20:48 <DrJoeTron> holy shit
20:48 <Durka> it should go back to normal
20:48 <DrJoeTron> shadow run is going to be online?
20:48 <DrJoeTron> sweet fucking deal
20:48  * Durka is above wrtl by 1 hour
20:48 <wrtlprnft> note that ﬂ in unicode is û^B in latin-1
20:48 <DrJoeTron> im starting to like the 360
20:48 <Durka> lol
20:48 <Lazer> i go try
20:48 <wrtlprnft> i don't think that'll work
20:49 <Durka> #quote add <wrtlprnft> note that ﬂ in unicode is û^B in latin-1
20:49 <armabot> Durka: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
20:49 <Lazer> ok it works
20:49 <Lazer> ty
20:49 <wrtlprnft> Durka: the mysql database with all the data over the last 2½ months is 1.5GB…
20:49 <Lazer> how can i see my stats of arma ?
20:49 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/playerstats2.htm
20:50 <Lazer> who has IE7 here ?
20:50 <Durka> i cant read german
20:50 <Durka> wtf is this: *** NickServe Kein Nick/Kanaal gefunden
20:50 <DrJoeTron> fuck ie7
20:50  * wrtlprnft agrees with DrJoeTron 
20:50 <Durka> o not found
20:50 <DrJoeTron> i'd rather use an AOL browser
20:50 <wrtlprnft> Durka: no nick/channel found
20:50 <wrtlprnft> bad translation, i know
20:51 <wrtlprnft> “no such nick/channel” would be better
20:51 <Durka> weird
20:51 <Durka> o well
20:51 <Lazer> how did u generate that wtqomghqsbrg ?
20:52  * Durka is racing around the track - beta - ß
20:52 <Durka> lol
20:52 <Durka> its wrtlpwned
20:52 <Lazer> with an simple JS or HTML code ?
20:52 <Lazer> wrtlsfkgb ?
20:53 <Lazer> is he there ?
20:53 <Lazer> |AST|}{Alex}{ 149:01 10.1  ??? he isnt especially good
20:54 -!- Lazer [n=Arma52@241.12-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit ["Bye!"]
20:55 <wrtlprnft> well, did he want an answer or not?
20:55 <Durka> #lastseen durka_123
20:55 -!- Arma39 [n=Arma39@241.12-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #armagetron
20:55 <Durka> wb
20:55 <Arma39> eho ?
20:55 -!- Arma39 is now known as Lazer
20:55 <DrJoeTron> go back to russia!
20:55 <Lazer> aa h ouf
20:56 <Lazer> Belgium !
20:56 <DrJoeTron> this is AMERIKKA
20:56 <armabot> Durka: timed out
20:56 <Lazer> BeLGIUM
20:56 <Lazer> Is WRTL here ?
20:56 <DrJoeTron> stop typing in fucking color.
20:56 <DrJoeTron> it wasnt cool the first time
20:56 <Lazer> hello dr
20:56 <DrJoeTron> its not cool now
20:57 <spidey> is that canada?
20:57 <Lazer> Americans --> Imperialusts!!!
20:57 <spidey> cause i thought i ignored him..
20:57 <DrJoeTron> probably
20:57 <Lazer> Germany --> Nazis !!
20:57 <DrJoeTron> no
20:57 <Lazer> ALL
20:57 <DrJoeTron> its someone else to ignore
20:57 <Durka> wrtlpwnd: do you wanna host a sumo server for me during a tournament im thinking of making...i already have a us server
20:57 <DrJoeTron> i spose we better ping tank
20:57 <Lazer> lol
20:58 <DrJoeTron> and get him to block the java irc client if thats possible :)
20:58 <Durka> but if ppl wanna play on euro server
20:58 <Lazer> i'll win Durka
20:58 <Durka> its team sumo
20:58 <spidey> guru3, ping :D
20:58 <Durka> joe: we arent using java irc
20:58 <Lazer> never played team sumo
20:58 <Durka> ya its a gametype i "made"
20:58 <Durka> added more players
20:58 <DrJoeTron> which one is Lazer on?
20:58 <Durka> chhagned spawn points
20:58 <Lazer> wooow :P :P
20:59 <Durka> increases zones
20:59 <Lazer> is it already done Durka ?
20:59 <Durka> its the one on top of my site
20:59 <Durka> ya its a us server
20:59 <Lazer> whats the name ,
20:59 <Lazer> ?
20:59 <Durka> *Team* *Sumo* *By* *Durka*
20:59 <DrJoeTron> whats your site?
20:59 <Lazer> ok i come
20:59 -!- Lazer [n=Arma39@241.12-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Client Quit]
20:59 <Durka> http://ddl.notlong.com
20:59 <Durka> at the top next to the search engine thing
20:59 <Durka> u just login and it pops up
21:00 -!- DRJOETRONSUX [n=4325b894@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
21:00 <DRJOETRONSUX> ROFL OMG HI
21:00 -!- DRJOETRONSUX [n=4325b894@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
21:02 <Durka> lol
21:02 <Durka> haha joe
21:02 <Durka> do u like it?
21:02 <DrJoeTron> it would be awesome if it didnt track mud in to here ;)
21:02  * wrtlprnft grumbles at lazer
21:02 <Durka> lol
21:02 <DrJoeTron> but uh, i have my own client
21:02 <Durka> i told tank that he should put that on the arma forums
21:03 <wrtlprnft> Durka: i could, yeah
21:03 <Durka> and the search engine
21:03 <DrJoeTron> i hope not
21:03 <Durka> the seatch only searches the arma sites
21:03 <MaZuffeR> Durka: i'm here now
21:03 <Durka> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
21:03 <Durka> yo maz
21:03 <Durka> that mustve taken some mighty scrolling to find that message
21:03 -!- luke-jr_work [n=luke-jr@2002:4335:4375:0:20d:60ff:fe60:756a] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
21:03 <Durka> ok so maz
21:04 <Durka> we want a rematch vs ??
21:04 <Durka> this sunday same time same place?
21:04 <Durka> or if not in zmans in wrtls?
21:04 -!- luke-jr_work [n=luke-jr@2002:4335:4375:0:20d:60ff:fe60:756a] has joined #armagetron
21:04 <MaZuffeR> i'll ask everyone
21:05 <Durka> k
21:05 <Durka> i told egg and pez and newbie that we wanted a rematch
21:05 <Durka> they said talk to u
21:05 <guru3> spidey: pong
21:06 <guru3> yes, my internet is that slow
21:06 <MaZuffeR> k, i'll send a mail to everyone who played
21:06 <Durka> lol hi tank
21:06 <spidey> lol
21:06 <spidey> guru3, DrJoeTron wanted to ping you ;x
21:07 <guru3> where's he then?
21:07 <Durka> afk
21:08 <DrJoeTron> pong
21:08 <wrtlprnft> back
21:09 <guru3> soooooooooooo
21:10 <DrJoeTron> hey guru3 do you think we could have some moderators for the channel?
21:10 <guru3> how so?
21:11 <DrJoeTron> how so?
21:11 <wrtlprnft> like, to kick people who spread racist stuff in here? /me wouldn't mind
21:11 <DrJoeTron> i mean there seems to be alot of that happening lately
21:11  * Durka needs to get kicked
21:11 <guru3> thing is the people you think would normally be mature enough to handle that position
21:12 <guru3> wind up kicking me
21:12 <guru3> when i give them the power
21:12 <Durka> roflmao
21:12 <DrJoeTron> haha
21:12 <guru3> so you'll forgive me if i'm a bit cautious
21:12 <DrJoeTron> well, luke-jr is a baby eater, so its safe to assume that he would be corrupt
21:13 <DrJoeTron> wait, guru3 how often does that happen to you?
21:13 <guru3> i think it's been 3 out of the last 5 times
21:13 <luke-jr_work> guru3: I didn't
21:13 <guru3> you did something though i bet
21:13 <luke-jr_work> kicked spidey
21:14 <luke-jr_work> he deserved it :o
21:14 <luke-jr_work> I didn't the first time tho
21:15 <luke-jr_work> but you deoped me within a second, so the next time I knew I had to do something or I'd never get a chance
21:15 <luke-jr_work> :
21:15 <luke-jr_work> :p
21:15 <DrJoeTron> see?
21:15 <DrJoeTron> what about Lucifer_arma 
21:15 <DrJoeTron> he doesnt scare children
21:15 <spidey> guru3, can i kick luke? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaase :D
21:16 <DrJoeTron> like how luke-jr_work  does
21:17 <guru3> maybe give op privs to wrtlprnft 
21:17 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:17  * wrtlprnft wouldn't run around kicking everyone at least
21:17 <guru3> z-man
21:17 <guru3> never spidey
21:17 <DrJoeTron> give it to people who are active
21:17 <spidey> :(
21:18 <spidey> never DrJoeTron 
21:18 <spidey> !
21:18 <guru3> yeah...
21:18 <guru3> but you can just message me
21:18 <spidey> lol
21:18 <DrJoeTron> i dont really know how to work irc much. so i wouldnt be very good
21:18 <spidey> i dun care anyways...i have the leetest power of all
21:18 <spidey> /ignore ftw!
21:19 <DrJoeTron> what about wrtlprnft and Lucifer_arma 
21:19 <spidey> luci kicked tank
21:19 <spidey> rofl
21:19 <DrJoeTron> those two are usually active
21:19 <DrJoeTron> bwahahaha
21:20  * wrtlprnft is looking at http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
21:20 <DrJoeTron> bwahahaha nice quote GodTodd 
21:20 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: Lucifer_arma was the one who kicked guru3 
21:21  * luke-jr_work wouldn't run around kicking everyone if it were a perm thing :p
21:21 <wrtlprnft> http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/82120
21:21 <wrtlprnft> hahaha!
21:21 <wrtlprnft> how right it is!
21:22 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034246069.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
21:22 <guru3> access #armagetron add wrtlprnft 10
21:22 <guru3> whoops
21:22 <DrJoeTron> aww my quote is so weak
21:22 <Durka> hey van
21:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
21:23 <DrJoeTron> huzzah!
21:23 <luke-jr_work> guru3: note I didn't do anything when you opped me the first time, and only the second because spidey deserved it and I knew it was temporary
21:23 <spidey> ...
21:23 <luke-jr_work> and nothing the third time again
21:23 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr_work is craving for maximum power!
21:23 <spidey> bs
21:23 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: op isn't max baka
21:23 <spidey> i was afk when you did it
21:24 <luke-jr_work> spidey: you had a lot piled up :)
21:24 <spidey> well
21:24 <guru3> hope you're all happy now
21:24 <luke-jr_work> guru3: thanks
21:24 <spidey> then you deserved to be banned by each person from this channel
21:24 <spidey> aka Lucifer_arma wrtlprnft me :p
21:24 <@wrtlprnft> :D
21:25 <@wrtlprnft> i'll keep it like guru3 and only op if needed :P
21:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o wrtlprnft] by wrtlprnft
21:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
21:25 <spidey> haha
21:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o wrtlprnft] by wrtlprnft
21:25 <luke-jr_work> O.o
21:25 <wrtlprnft> just testing #op, sorry
21:25 <spidey> <3 chanserv
21:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
21:25 <spidey> o.o
21:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
21:25 <luke-jr_work> hm
21:25 <wrtlprnft> that wasn't me.
21:25 <luke-jr_work> weird syntax
21:25 <luke-jr_work> why not a 'deop' cmd?
21:26 <guru3> there is one
21:26 <luke-jr_work> o well, can always deop w/ the button
21:26 <luke-jr_work> there is?
21:26 <guru3> op yourself luke-jr_work 
21:26 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: /mode -o luke-jr_work 
21:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
21:26 <wrtlprnft> no need for chanserv if you want to deop someone…
21:26 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
21:26 <guru3> see
21:26 <guru3> can be done
21:26 <luke-jr_work> Konv annoys me
21:26 <luke-jr_work> yeah
21:26 <luke-jr_work> but I used OP -Luke-Jr_work
21:27 <luke-jr_work> [14:27:14] [Notice] -ChanServ- No help available on deop 
21:27 <DrJoeTron> im gonna book mark the stats page
21:27 <DrJoeTron> this is a riot
21:27 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:27 <wrtlprnft> wtf is CMDCLEAR?
21:27 <spidey> ?
21:27 <wrtlprnft> 21:27 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- No help available on cmdclear
21:27 <DrJoeTron> of all of the random quotes GodTodd
21:27 <luke-jr_work> ??
21:27 <DrJoeTron> s is "shit fuck satan death sex drugs rape"
21:27 <spidey> clears stuff?
21:27 <wrtlprnft> nvm
21:28 <wrtlprnft> the command is CLEAR
21:28 <spidey> lol
21:28 <spidey> i have to reinstall my mixer board brb
21:28 <wrtlprnft> CLEAR USERS     - Removes all users from channel
21:28 <luke-jr_work> eek
21:28 <Durka> no!
21:28 <wrtlprnft> that sounds dangerous o_O
21:28 <wrtlprnft> not gonna use it
21:29 <wrtlprnft> pretty analogous to /admin QUIT
21:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v spidey] by ChanServ
21:30 <guru3> wrtlprnft: thanks
21:30 <guru3> good to know there's a shortcut
21:30 <wrtlprnft> oh lol
21:30 <+spidey> :<
21:30 <+spidey> i don't have sound
21:31 <wrtlprnft> why would you ever want to kick everyone?
21:31 <+spidey> and i can't find my backup drivers ;/
21:31 <+spidey> wrtlprnft, move the channel?
21:31 <wrtlprnft> spidey: your sound is gone, you have voice now
21:31 <wrtlprnft> not from me, though
21:31 <+spidey> ...
21:31 <DrJoeTron> or if anything
21:31 <DrJoeTron> guru3 is there a way to remove colored text?
21:32 <+spidey> i mean my audio driver
21:32 <+spidey> yea
21:32 <+spidey> +c
21:32 <DrJoeTron> the kiddies tend to latch on to that as fast as possible
21:32 <+spidey> ../mode +c
21:32 <+spidey> or something o.O
21:32 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: yeah
21:32 <wrtlprnft> #f
21:32 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
21:32 <armabot> Random Fortune: Our comedies are not to be laughed at. -Samuel Goldwyn
21:32 <DrJoeTron> #q
21:32 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
21:32 <wrtlprnft> that wouldn't work either then, though
21:32 -!- mode/#armagetron [+c] by luke-jr_work
21:32 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_work] by luke-jr_work
21:32 <luke-jr_work> happy?
21:32 <luke-jr_work> #f
21:32 <armabot> Random Fortune: It's more than magnificent-it's mediocre. -Samuel Goldwyn
21:32 <luke-jr_work> hm
21:33 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: that won't stay for long
21:33 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: no?
21:33 <luke-jr_work> whatever :p
21:33 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: you need access level 11 methinks
21:33 <luke-jr_work> why?
21:33 <luke-jr_work> [14:34:03] [Notice] -ChanServ- 11    25    SET       Modify channel SETs
21:33 <luke-jr_work> oh
21:34 <guru3> access level 25
21:34 <guru3> but set doesn't cover color codes
21:34 <wrtlprnft> level 25, id 11
21:34 <wrtlprnft> whatever
21:34 <wrtlprnft> there's some command to set the channel modes, i know that much
21:35 <wrtlprnft> found it when i played around with #arma-ladle, which is mine
21:35 <+spidey> hahahahha
21:35 <luke-jr_work> set mlock <-- locks em
21:35 <+spidey> i'm stupid
21:35 <+spidey> no
21:35 <+spidey> i know what it is
21:35 <+spidey> that stupid game Lucifer_arma had us download
21:35 <+spidey> it disabled my windows audio service
21:35 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: aah
21:35 <DrJoeTron> scorch3d
21:35 <DrJoeTron> ?
21:35 -!- mode/#armagetron [+c] by ChanServ
21:35 <DrJoeTron> yeah only you did that happen to
21:36 <guru3> :>
21:36 <DrJoeTron> yay!
21:36 <wrtlprnft> haha
21:36 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
21:36 <luke-jr_work> guru3: now we can't +m either
21:36 -!- mode/#armagetron [-c] by guru3
21:36 -!- mode/#armagetron [+c] by ChanServ
21:36 -!- mode/#armagetron [+m] by guru3
21:36 <@guru3> nope, that still works
21:36 <@guru3> :>
21:36 <wrtlprnft> lol
21:36 -!- mode/#armagetron [-m] by guru3
21:36 <luke-jr_work> weird
21:36 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
21:37 <+wrtlprnft> too late, lol
21:37 <+wrtlprnft> #f
21:37 <@guru3> because that's not a mode ive locked
21:37 <luke-jr_work> how about topic?
21:37 <armabot> Random Fortune: QFM: || Quelle fashion mistake. "It was really QFM. I mean painter || pants? That's 1979 beyond belief." || -- Douglas Coupland, "Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated || Culture"
21:37 <luke-jr_work> hrm, I think I'll miss colours on armabot
21:37 <luke-jr_work> does +c allow exceptions?
21:37 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: lol
21:37 <luke-jr_work> you ruined it!
21:37 <+wrtlprnft> the colors in CIA messages are nice, too :(
21:37 <@guru3> darn
21:37 <@guru3> turned the topic lock on too
21:37 <@guru3> but of course
21:37 <@guru3> i have the damn priveleges
21:37 <@guru3> ><
21:38 <DrJoeTron> spidey ping me
21:38 <+wrtlprnft> i think there's ways to deal with the occasional jerks other than always disabling colors
21:38 <+spidey> DrJoeTron, ping
21:38 <@guru3> anyone remember the topic?
21:38 <DrJoeTron> cool thats still there
21:38 <DrJoeTron> thanks
21:38 <+wrtlprnft> like, just disable them if jerks are around
21:38 <+wrtlprnft> guru3: http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
21:38 <+wrtlprnft> guru3: the very bottom
21:38 <+spidey> DrJoeTron, channel modes have no affect on client side colors :p
21:38 <luke-jr_work> yeah
21:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
21:39 -!- Van-hayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034154022.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
21:39 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: 0.2.8.2.1 has been released! | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Playing with the topic eh? Whoops!
21:39 <luke-jr_work> 0.2.8.2.1 has been released! | http://armagetronad.net | Nothing sucks like a raging headache.
21:39 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: 0.2.8.2.1.2.8.0.2.4.6.1 has been released! | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Anyone else think we have too many version #s?
21:39 <luke-jr_work> Konversation keeps a topic history
21:39 <wrtlprnft> #realchatlogs
21:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
21:39 <wrtlprnft> these would show it, too
21:40 <@guru3> or i could check my own logs
21:40 <@guru3> from which those stupid stats are generated
21:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
21:41 <+spidey> spidey is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 105 times.
21:41 <+spidey> :D
21:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
21:41 -!- luke-jr_work changed the topic of #armagetron to: 0.2.8.2.1.2.8.0.2.4.6.1 has been released! | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Anyone else think we have too many version #s? | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
21:41  * guru3 slaps spidey to help make up the difference
21:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_work] by luke-jr_work
21:41 <luke-jr_work> lol
21:41 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
21:41 <+spidey> lol
21:41 <DrJoeTron> guru3 did you have finals yet?
21:42 <guru3> no
21:42 <guru3> after christmas
21:42 <DrJoeTron> ah
21:42 <DrJoeTron> mine are supposed to start next week
21:42 <wrtlprnft> must be a fun christmas.
21:42 <DrJoeTron> but ive gotten most of them this week
21:42 <DrJoeTron> yeah really
21:42 <guru3> not the same for sping semester finals
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21:42  * wrtlprnft has tons of once-per-semester tests now, too
21:46 <DrJoeTron> alright
21:46 <DrJoeTron> bbl
21:46 <+spidey> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?Image=13%2D135%2D025%2D02%2Ejpg%2C13%2D135%2D025%2D03%2Ejpg%2C13%2D135%2D025%2D04%2Ejpg%2C13%2D135%2D025%2D05%2Ejpg%2C13%2D135%2D025%2D06%2Ejpg&CurImage=13%2D135%2D025%2D02%2Ejpg&Type=RECERTIFIED&Description=Recertified%3A+ECS+PT800CE%2DA+%281%2E0%29+Socket+478+VIA+PT800CE+ATX+Intel+Motherboard+%2D+Retail
21:46 <DrJoeTron> thanks guru3
21:46 <+spidey> i'm getting that
21:46 <DrJoeTron> get something from asus
21:46 <+spidey> just cause it's only $24 and if it's shit it'll only be a waste of $24
21:47 <DrJoeTron> you've gotta give me more than this
21:47 <+spidey> ?
21:47 <DrJoeTron> all you're doing is showing me chips
21:47 <DrJoeTron> and i eat chips
21:47 <DrJoeTron> stats?
21:47 <+spidey> ....
21:48 <+spidey> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010200280+4093&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=280
21:48 <+spidey> second one
21:48 <DrJoeTron> the lobster cage cpu is a doritio
21:48 <+spidey> if i do get that i'll get a 2.8ghz p4
21:48 <luke-jr_work> guru3:
21:48 <+spidey> i'ma go play americas army with my 8fps
21:48 <+spidey> so bbl
21:49 <DrJoeTron> it says its out of stock
21:49 <+spidey> ?
21:49 <+spidey> gay
21:49 <guru3> luke-jr_work: ?
21:49 <DrJoeTron> bbl
21:49 <luke-jr_work> guru3: you got any hardware background?
21:49 <DrJoeTron> have for play americas smarmy
21:49 <guru3> depends
21:50 <luke-jr_work> guru3: I have a project for designing a handheld computer
21:51 <luke-jr_work> members might get a free EFIKA
21:51 <guru3> not that into hardware
21:51 <luke-jr_work> heh
21:53 <guru3> im no electrical engineer
21:53 <guru3> just sorta tinker every now and then
21:53 <luke-jr_work> me too :p
21:53 <guru3> ><
21:53 <luke-jr_work> heh
21:54 <wrtlprnft> btw, i can confirm that i think we have too many version #s
21:55 <luke-jr_work> yeah
21:55 <luke-jr_work> so release 0.2.8.3 already
21:55 <luke-jr_work> wait
21:55 <luke-jr_work> I need to enable RESPAWN_HACK first
21:55 <luke-jr_work> :po
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21:55  * luke-jr_work forgot to do that
21:55 <wrtlprnft> it's a HACK, as the name suggests
21:55 <Durka> respawn_hack ?
21:55 <luke-jr_work> Durka: deathmatch mode
21:56 <Durka> ooooo_OOOOOOOO
21:56 <wrtlprnft> the official serverside code can wait for 0.3.1/scripting
21:56 <Durka> thats what i figured
21:56 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: same applies to zones
21:56 <wrtlprnft> the important thing is that the clients already support it
21:56 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: zones do have an extensible infrastructure with derivation
21:56 <luke-jr_work> but yes, I agree that deathmatch should be a script
21:57 <luke-jr_work> the 0.2.8 zones are a hack, just as RESPAWN_HACK is
21:57 <wrtlprnft> the respawning doesn't even make sure that you don't spawn in a closed off area
21:57 <luke-jr_work> so?
21:57 <luke-jr_work> it has no adverse effect when disabled
21:57 <luke-jr_work> there's no harm including it
21:57 <wrtlprnft> there is
21:57 <wrtlprnft> it introduces settings we might be forced to carry around
21:58 <wrtlprnft> even if they totally suck in the new implementation
21:58 <luke-jr_work> that applies to all settings right now
21:58 <wrtlprnft> more to the respawn related ones
21:58 <luke-jr_work> nope
21:58 <luke-jr_work> all settings need to be changed for DCT
21:59 <wrtlprnft> screw DCT
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21:59 <luke-jr_work> respawn ones will just be a few more backward compat entries in a table
21:59 <wrtlprnft> lol Seyahnav
21:59 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:59 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: the respawn ones might have no equivalent with the new code!
21:59 <luke-jr_work> wrtlprnft: neither will some of our current ones
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22:00 <luke-jr_work> eg, the ones relating to WINZONE will need a script to use
22:00 <wrtlprnft> yeah, but there's no point in ADDING new ones that will be removed in the next release
22:00 <wrtlprnft> the winzone ones have been around for ages
22:00 <luke-jr_work> irrelevant
22:01 <luke-jr_work> document their planned removal if you must, but I expect compatibility to be easy
22:01 <luke-jr_work> z-man-work: ping
22:01 <wrtlprnft> just keep the RESPAWN_HACK unsupported
22:01 <wrtlprnft> most people running a server will be able to compile it anyways
22:01 <luke-jr_work> so document it as unsupported
22:02 <luke-jr_work> the only purpose of a release is for binaries
22:02 <wrtlprnft> and then you can tell them how to enable it, and at the same time tell them they shouldn't expect forward compatibility
22:02 <luke-jr_work> it's disabled by default, even when compiled in
22:02 <wrtlprnft> it's enablable without searching for it and seeing that it's unsupported
22:03 <luke-jr_work> nope, they need to get the config info from somewhere
22:03 <luke-jr_work> and that somewhere can document its status
22:03 <wrtlprnft> ^RESPAWN<return>
22:03 <luke-jr_work> so add it to docs
22:03 <wrtlprnft> that might not be read
22:03 <luke-jr_work> it's displayed when you search for it
22:03 <wrtlprnft> or it'll be a long blurb that's irrelevant in that place
22:05 <luke-jr_work> um
22:05 <luke-jr_work> RESPAWN doesn't even appear in the config items :p
22:07 <Durka> hey i have question
22:08 <Durka> can i plot different deathzones
22:08 <Durka> but have them appear at a certain time
22:08 <wrtlprnft> not w/o hacking arma
22:09 <wrtlprnft> you can only have zones that appear at round start, and the deathzone that appears after some time
22:10 <Durka> i know u can plot zones on a map
22:10 <Durka> <zone effect="whatever">
22:10 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:11 <Durka> can u add like <zone effect="whatever" round_time="blah">
22:11 <Durka> so u can make them appear
22:11 <wrtlprnft> not w/o hacking arma
22:11 <luke-jr_work> Durka: in 0.3.1 you might be able to use a script
22:11  * Durka pokes groundpig
22:12 <wrtlprnft> Durka: the hard thing isn't to make them appear, that's a 5-minute hack
22:12 <wrtlprnft> the hard thing is how to make it configurable without bloating everything
22:12 <Durka> the hard thing is...
22:12 <Durka> ooooooooo
22:12 <Durka> why is spidey op?
22:12 <luke-jr_work> he's not
22:12 <wrtlprnft> he's voiced
22:12 <luke-jr_work> because he's loud
22:12 <luke-jr_work> :p
22:13 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by ChanServ
22:13 <luke-jr_work> lol
22:14 <GodTodd> so...durka finally figured out my secret identity...
22:14 <GodTodd> hrmmm
22:16  * wrtlprnft wonders what would happen if he did /op *
22:16 <wrtlprnft> the channel would probably end up empty in no time
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22:19 <GodTodd> wrtlprnft: you think so? ;)
22:21 <wrtlprnft> depend on who's there at the moment, probably
22:22 <GodTodd> i can pretty well assure you that luke would be here a total of about 2 seconds heh
22:24 <wrtlprnft> heh
22:24 <wrtlprnft> unless he kicks everyone first
22:25 <wrtlprnft> sort of like #roulette
22:25 <wrtlprnft> #night
22:25 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
22:25 <GodTodd> true...but it's like a mexican standoff....you gotta like the odds of the many against the one, even if there is collateral damage
22:27  * GodTodd is wondering where joe found that quote he referred to.....the shit, fuck, satan, sex, drugs, rape one....
22:28 <GodTodd> wasn't aware i had put that anywhere heh
22:29 <Your_mom_arma> #lastseen tf|lu
22:29 <Your_mom_arma> #ping
22:29 <armabot> pong
22:30 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: timed out
22:30 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron sux
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22:32 <GodTodd> spidey sux
22:34 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o spidey] by ChanServ
22:35 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o spidey] by ChanServ
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22:39  * Durka is back
22:40 <Durka> aka bad news
22:40 <Durka> roflmao
22:40 <Durka> 0.2.8.2.1.2.8.0.2.4.6.1
22:41 <Durka> #quote *** Topic is 0.2.8.2.1.2.8.0.2.4.6.1 has been released! | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Anyone else think we have too many version #s? | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
22:43  * Durka :(
22:47 <luke-jr_work> should I make an ebuild for that ver? :p
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22:57 <Your_mom_arma> hey ghab
22:57 <ghableska> hi mom
22:58 <ghableska> #armaservers
22:58 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
22:58 <Durka> hi ghab
22:58 <ghableska> hi Durka
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23:28 <ghableska> is anyone having problems connecting to the master server?
23:29 <[dlh]> all of them?
23:30 <ghableska> well, it attempts to connect to Master 1 and then it freezes
23:38 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:38 <luke-jr_work> give it time
23:38 <luke-jr_work> :p
23:38 <ghableska> ok..
23:38 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 17.6°F (3:54 PM CST on December 07, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.74 in 1041 hPa.
23:41 <spidey> ...
23:41 <ghableska> ...
23:41 <spidey> synnc error?
23:42 <spidey> one version i had installed everytime i connected to the master server it took ages, then when i tried to connect to a server it stopped at the suncing part and everything locked up
23:42 <ghableska> lol
23:42 <ghableska> .3?
23:43 <spidey> now the 2.8.2.1 version i have when i exit tron i get 3 monitor views in 1 monitor
23:43 <ghableska> I know how to fix that.
23:43 <spidey> ?
23:43 <ghableska> buy two more monitors :)
23:43 <spidey> haha
23:44 <spidey> i'ma go get supper ... meat loaf, baked potatoes, and something else i forgot :D
23:45 <luke-jr_work> spidey: there is no 2.8.2.1
23:49 <spidey> ..
23:50 <Vanhayes> .2.8.2.1
23:50 <spidey> ...
23:50 <spidey> 0.2.8.2.1
23:50 <spidey> wtf's the difference
23:51 <Vanhayes> there is no difference between 0.2.8.2.1 and .2.8.2.1 but there is a difference between those and 2.8.2.1
23:52 <Vanhayes> see I know what you meant and wouldnt have said anything, but luke-jr_work  being luke-jr_work had to correct you even tho we all knew what you meant
23:53 <spidey> Send this request in on the day you'd like to cancel. Also we value our customers so please let us know if there's anything we can do to retain your business or to improve our services.
23:53 <spidey> Thanks,
23:53 <spidey> Jim
23:53 <spidey> i should respond
23:53 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:53 <spidey> "don't put support tickets on hold for a fucking weak, i opened them because i ~needed~ something"
23:53 <luke-jr_work> LOL
23:54 <luke-jr_work> what company is this?
23:54 <spidey> vpsland.com
23:54 <spidey> i've been asking to have my password reset to the win2k3 vps for over a weak
23:54 <spidey> because i suddenly couldn't login
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23:56 <luke-jr_work> spidey: PM
23:56 <spidey> you know what
23:56 <spidey> i just sent 10 lines for nothing
23:56 <spidey> forgot to identify
23:56 <luke-jr_work> ...
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Log from 2006-12-08:
--- Day changed Fri Dec 08 2006
00:01 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
00:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of showers early this evening. Fog patches. Wind south 20 km/h except 40 along the fundy coast early this evening. Wind becoming light this evening. Low minus 1.; Friday - Rain showers or flurries (1 more message)
00:01 <Vanhayes> #more
00:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: changing to periods of snow in the morning. Rainfall amount 2 mm. Snowfall amount 5 cm. Wind becoming north 40 km/h gusting to 60 late in the morning. High zero with temperature falling to minus 4 in the afternoon. Friday night..clearing early in the evening. Wind north 40 km/h gusting to 60 becoming light overnight. Low minus 10.; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. High zero.;
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00:55 <DrJoeTron> yo
00:55 <pilot> back
00:55 <DrJoeTron> go back
00:55 <pilot> ?
00:55 <DrJoeTron> :D
00:56 <spidey> ..
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01:02 <DrJoeTron> we need to block that thing :p
01:05 <spidey> #g 20*6
01:05 <armabot> spidey: 20 * 6 = 120
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02:21 <GodTodd> blergle
02:26 <Your_mom_arma> blarg
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02:35 <GodTodd> flargle blargle boo popper
02:38 <ghableska> *yawn*
02:38 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 14.0°F (6:54 PM CST on December 07, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Pressure: 30.70 in 1040 hPa.
02:38 <Compn> #serverinfo wild west fort
02:38 <armabot> Compn: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “wild west fort” at the moment, sorry.
02:38 <Compn> #serverinfo fortress
02:38 <armabot> Compn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (6/14): CrAzZy, Reeli, SHACE, \\Nervous//, ~}XD{~Zero, ÷swaziland
02:38 <Compn> doh
02:42 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
02:42 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 32.2°F (7:42 PM CST on December 07, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.72 in 1040.2 hPa.
02:43 <Compn> #weather 48152
02:43 <armabot> Compn: The current temperature in 8 Mile and Middlebelt, Farmington Hills, Michigan is 20.7°F (8:38 PM EST on December 07, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Pressure: 29.59 in 1001.9 hPa.
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03:31 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:31 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 10.4°F (7:54 PM CST on December 07, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.71 in 1040 hPa.
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03:59 <spidey> #cnn 38256
03:59 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 20.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Wind: NNW at 17 mph (27 km/h).
04:17 <ghableska> spidey, spidey
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04:30 <DrJoeTron>  /back
04:30 <ghableska> wb
04:30 <DrJoeTron> yo
04:31 <GodTodd> goddamn it joe
04:31 <DrJoeTron> :( baby i can change
04:31 <GodTodd> bullshit...you always say that and then it's the same old shit
04:32 <DrJoeTron> i didnt know it was your daughter
04:32 <DrJoeTron> i swear
04:33 <GodTodd> heh
04:41 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
04:41 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 34.3°F (10:41 PM EST on December 07, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa.
04:42 <DrJoeTron> i'll see yoour 34.3 F and raise you with a
04:42 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60056
04:42 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Mount Prospect, IL is 13.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Wind: WNW at 11 mph (18 km/h).
04:42 <mkzelda> :D
04:42 <mkzelda> its supposed to be 20 tonight
04:42 <DrJoeTron> its fucking cold out
04:42 <mkzelda> its been 78 this week
04:42 <mkzelda> so, our 34 feels pretty shitty atm
04:42 <DrJoeTron> sounds rough :(
04:43 <mkzelda> and its so damn windy my car was flying all over the road
04:43 <mkzelda> it was like drunk driving
04:43 <mkzelda> so i hear
04:43 <mkzelda> :D
04:43 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:43 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 10.4°F (8:54 PM CST on December 07, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Windchill: -2.2°F. Pressure: 30.68 in 1039 hPa.
04:43 <ghableska> >_>
04:43 <mkzelda> yipes
04:44 <mkzelda> last night i was watching tv and the news had their stupid commercial blurb
04:44 <ghableska> #weather Ulaanbataar
04:44 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "Ulaanbataar".
04:44 <ghableska> GodTodd: ;)
04:44 <mkzelda> "An arctic blast, coming our way, tonight at eleven"
04:44 <ghableska> grr
04:44 <mkzelda> i saw that at 10:45
04:44 <ghableska> I can never get that right
04:44 <ghableska> #weather Ulaanbaatar
04:44 <mkzelda> i thought, "only 15 mins till this arctic blast"
04:44 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia is 10.4°F (11:30 AM ULAT on December 08, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa.
04:45 <mkzelda> i hate the news
04:45 <mkzelda> i'd rather listen to fran drescher
04:46 <mkzelda> they make dumb mistakes like that every night in almost every story
04:46 <ghableska> "high nasal tone" lol
04:46 <mkzelda> How the hell they know the arctic blast is coming precisely at 11?
04:46 <mkzelda> :D
04:46 <mkzelda> and it wasnt even a complete sentence, there was no verb in the sentence
04:46 <ghableska> they're weather(wo)men- they know everything
04:47 <mkzelda> they sputter fragments
04:48 <ghableska> :P
04:48 <mkzelda> The world ending at 7:00 tonight, details at eleven.
04:48 <mkzelda> up next, why you could be paying more at the pump
04:48 <mkzelda> cause the price went up?
04:49 <ghableska> maybe...
04:49 <mkzelda> i dont really have very much hate
04:49 <mkzelda> i reserve that word for choice occasions
04:49 <mkzelda> the news is one of them
04:49 <DrJoeTron> if you say hate alot
04:49 <DrJoeTron> you destroy the sinisterness of it
04:49 <mkzelda> yea
04:49 <mkzelda> any word or value for that matter
04:50 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:50 <DrJoeTron> like antiquing
04:50 <mkzelda> like the south park episode where they said 'shit' 230ish times
04:50 <DrJoeTron> or shit
04:50 <DrJoeTron> daddy taught me how to swear :D
04:51 <mkzelda> im using my fireplace for the first time
04:51 <mkzelda> not b/c i needed to, but b/c i could
04:51 <mkzelda> cause fire is teh winz!
04:52 <mkzelda> i wanted to try it out b4 all my family got here for christmas
04:53 <GodTodd> family sux
04:59 <mkzelda> jesus was born so i get lots of presents, thank you jesus for being born
05:02 <mkzelda> man extreme home makeover came here and shut down parts of town
05:02 <mkzelda> and everyone around here acted like idiots b/c tv crews were around
05:03 <mkzelda> i wish i had something wrong w/ me so i could get a dope million dollar mansion w/ 18 plasma tv's
05:04 <mkzelda> i hate that show too, the cast always acts so high and mighty for helping people when its their job and they get paid (VERY WELL) to do so, and everything is funded/donated by companies who in turn get tons of free advertising and make all the money back b/c its all tax write-offs
05:05 <mkzelda> and instead of spending millions on one family they could have helped many families w/ less
05:07 <GodTodd> i wouldn't be able to afford the property taxes on the bigass house they'd build
05:13 <mkzelda> i checked it out today, it looks ridiculous
05:13 <mkzelda> cause its  so much larger and nicer than any other house nearby
05:13 <mkzelda> also, the recpient is blind
05:14 <mkzelda> so... they could have just neglected the aesthetics
05:14 <ghableska> haha
05:14 <mkzelda> no paint
05:14 <GodTodd> heh
05:15 <mkzelda> they made it this stone/cobblestone exterior
05:15 <mkzelda> no houses look like that here
05:15 <GodTodd> so...how'd that reveal segment go?  "How do you like it?" "How the fuck would I know, I'm blind you bastard!"
05:15 <mkzelda> haha
05:16 <mkzelda> its yet to air on tv but i saw the news clip and she started dancing
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
05:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 41.4°F (10:15 PM CST on December 07, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034.1 hPa.
05:16 <mkzelda> they said "legally blind"
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, DareDevil is legally blind
05:16 <mkzelda> but it seemed that person could see alright
05:16 <mkzelda> they moved the bus and she responded
05:17 <mkzelda> cause otherwise i'd think she'd keep standing there and say 'did they move hte bus yet?'
05:17 <GodTodd> hmmm
05:17 <GodTodd> doesn't sound too fucking blind to me
05:17 <GodTodd> she's in it for the house
05:17 <GodTodd> bitch
05:17 <mkzelda> do i start dancing now?
05:17 <mkzelda> OMG it smells beautiful
05:17 <GodTodd> maybe that's it...they jabbed her to get her dancing
05:18 <mkzelda> actually during the summer i work in that area, its the bad side of town and they run after school programs for kids to keep them off the streets and out of trouble
05:19 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6213012.stm
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> you guys talking about some dumb reality tv show?
05:19 <ghableska> hahahahahaha
05:19 <mkzelda> wow
05:19 <mkzelda> We had cops kill a kid here cause he stole a PS3
05:19 <ghableska> O_O
05:19 <GodTodd> yeah...mkzelda watches extreme makeover home edition
05:19 <ghableska> how old was he?
05:20 <mkzelda> 19ish
05:20 <mkzelda> college student at UNC-Wilmington
05:20 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma: i hate that show, and now it came to my town and shut down streets i drive regularly
05:20 <mkzelda> and made people act like idiots b/c its tv
05:21 <GodTodd> i've found people tend to act like idiots anyway
05:21 <mkzelda> ya but put them in numbers and in front of a camera
05:21 <GodTodd> true
05:22 <mkzelda> u never know what you'll get
05:23 <GodTodd> hence the popularity of crappy reality tv
05:24 <mkzelda> if its not one stupid trend its another
05:24 <GodTodd> this reality trend has overstayed its welcome tho
05:24 <mkzelda> looks like game shows are on their way back
05:24 <luke-jr> TV sucks
05:25 <GodTodd> game shows never left
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> make no mistake about it, every reality TV show I've seen was a "game show"
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> you all saw Time Bandits, right?
05:25 <GodTodd> yep
05:25 <GodTodd> have it on dvd :)
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> I want to hire Terry Gilliam to be my personal prophet
05:25 <mkzelda> no
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, was he right, or was he right with that movie?  :)
05:25 <GodTodd> heh
05:26 <mkzelda> oh does it have that old bat from who's the boss
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> "and now, would you like to save your wife and win no prizes, or would you like to answer this question, and if you get it wrong, she dies!"
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> (or something like that)
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> not that I know of.  It's a british movie
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> bunch of midgets, a kid, and a big talking head that says "Return the map!"
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> and the Devil, of course.
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> John Cleese plays the Supreme Being
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> the group of midgets was in a chevy chase movie, and some of them appeared in Willow (although Willow himself was not in Time Bandits)
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> there's two cameos from ummm, Indy's dad
05:28  * Lucifer_arma kicks himself for not remembering Sean Connery
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> Sean Connery plays Agamemnon :)
05:28 <mkzelda> ya thats it
05:28 <mkzelda> i have seen pieces
05:28 <mkzelda> it does that woman from who's the boss
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> ah yeah, she plays the troll's wife
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> in the ship, in the time of legends
05:28 <mkzelda> thats why i didnt watch all of it
05:29 <Compn> sean connery was great in zardoz :d
05:29 <Compn> ZARDOZ MAN!
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't even talk in zardoz!
05:29 <Compn> yes he did, not much
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> just looked around and showed us his hairy nut sack
05:29 <Compn> lol
05:29 <mkzelda> thats why Compn liked it
05:29 <Compn> i didnt need to see his junk....
05:29 <Compn> that was way too far
05:30 <mkzelda> haha
05:30 <Compn> should be laws against that
05:30 <Compn> sean connery is banned from being naked forever
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> "If I made the universe, I would have started with lasers on day one!"
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, don't worry about that old chick being in it.  First, she's good in it, and second, she's only there for like 5 minutes
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> the movie rocks
05:31 <Compn> so what movie you guys talking about?
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> they mug Napolean, sink on the Titanic, etc
05:31 <Compn> time bandits
05:31 <Compn> ack
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> Time Bandits
05:31 <Compn> who directed that?
05:31 <Compn> gilliam?
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> yep
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> it was his first non-python show, iirc
05:31 <Compn> i cant believe i waited so long to watch 'brazil'
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> maybe just his first as director
05:32 <Compn> brazil was insane
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't seen Brazil.  :)
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> but I saw Twelve Monkeys
05:32 <Compn> i love twelve monkeys
05:32 <Compn> but it blows twelve monkeys away... thats how good it is
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> I'll have to catch it.  It's already on my list to watch every movie Terry Gilliam ever made
05:33 <Compn> i heard bruiser sucks tho
05:33 <Compn> errr
05:33 <Compn> wrong director
05:33 <Compn> nm
05:33 <Compn> :D
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> come on man, from animating monty python to Time Bandits and Twelve MOnkeys, I'll bet his shitty movies are better than most directors' lifetime best!
05:33 <Compn> bruiser was george ramero
05:34 <Compn> dunno how i got them confused
05:34 <Compn> lost in lamancha (that docu about gilliam's don quixote movie) was painful to watch :D
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> I thought he didn't make his don quixote movie because nobody would fund it?
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> they should have gotten him to direct Hitchhiker's Guide...
05:35 <Compn> he got some work started on it, some filming, but it broke down
05:35 <Compn> i saw the mini-series of hitchhikers, and the new movie missed some good jokes ;\
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't seen the new movie yet, nobody's given it to me, and I won't give the MPAA any of *my* money
05:36 <Compn> i downloaded a cam a while back i think
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> like I said, I won't give the MPAA any of *my* money
05:36 <Compn> i cant wait for idiocracy
05:36 <Compn> :)
05:36 <Compn> FOX BURN IN HELL!
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> we already have idiocracy in the US
05:37 <Compn> for burying idiocracy
05:37 <Compn> huh?
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sorry, I know bush keeps calling it "democracy"
05:37 <Compn> ah
05:37 <Compn> i meant new mike judge movie
05:37 <Compn> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/
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05:50 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma always lets us know what he/she's doing: 2447 actions!
05:50 <mkzelda> For example, like this:
05:50 <mkzelda>      * Lucifer_arma farted
05:51 <mkzelda> hehe
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06:10 <Durka> #lastseen whatup
06:11 <Durka> :[
06:12 <armabot> Durka: timed out
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06:13 <luke-jr> haha
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06:16 <GodTodd> luke-jr: find yourself amusing?
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, I guess we can't cry for the indians anymore
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> they're stinking rich!
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> (the Seminole tribe in Florida just bought the Hard Rock Cafe chain)
06:25 <GodTodd> is that so that they could get cheap drinks?
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Game_Variations&curid=1432&diff=16630&oldid=16571
06:27 <mkzelda> I wonder if you need reservations
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> what they didn't realize when they bought it was that the white men they bought it from are just going to take it back
06:28 <mkzelda> they should open a clone of it and call it Manifest Destiny
06:28 <mkzelda> hrm, i cant join WW sumo, i get 404 errors dling the map yet i see 8 ppl playing it
06:34 <Compn> #serverinfo sum
06:34 <armabot> Compn: Wild West - Sumo: Players (2/10): Egg, Super Duck?
06:34 <Compn> works for me
06:34 <Compn> #serverinfo sum
06:34 <armabot> Compn: Wild West - Sumo: Players (2/10): Egg, Super Duck?
06:35 <mkzelda> :/
06:35 <mkzelda> i think my last cvs update broke some stuff, i have that prob and i also can only get 320x240 or 2560x1024 in Fullscreen
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> Rocket Brigade, that's what the unit should be called
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> have you updated your driver and/or sdl recently?
06:37 <mkzelda> neither of those, but i have updated other things, that could be the source, or i could just need to rm my .cfg
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, arma does query via sdl for available resolutions
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> it could be querying wrong, but I thought I'd ask in case there might be an indication of something else
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: spidey (hi there!) I figured out why scorched3d didn't work for me, and I fixed it :)
06:43 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: it broke spidey's sound
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> scorched3d?
06:43 <mkzelda> Lucifer_arma: flea said he had same prob, removing cfg fixed
06:43 <luke-jr> yeah
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> mkzelda: that indicates a problem in arma.  :)  File a bug report?  If it's not there already?
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: sure it's not PEBKAC?
06:45 <luke-jr> nope, could be
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I suppose they could have replaced some system library or other, but it's kind of unlikely...
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> worst thing they might have done is change some registry key or something, in which case simply reinstalling the driver should fix it
06:46 <luke-jr> BTW, did I mention it'd be nice if Arma didn't block on audio things?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, my problem was Xgl.  Apparently there are font problems in Xgl, and one of the fixes is to run xorg instead
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> BTW, did I mention that I'll deal with when I can, and mentioning it again and again isn't going to change that?
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> if you want it done faster, do it yourself
06:47 <mkzelda> as long as you start your sound first you can play both :D
06:47 <luke-jr> Xgl is obsolete
06:48 <luke-jr> mkzelda: no, arma freezes when you exit a round if it's blocked
06:50 <mkzelda> not for me
06:50 <mkzelda> im doing that right now, have always done that
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> have I mentioned that I was right and y'all were right, that what we call an expression in vValue is by definition still a function?
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> but that it can take multiple parameters.  :)  (calc 3 is the beginning study of functions that take multiple parameters)
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> so now I'd like vValue to support vector functios
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> *functions
06:51 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: sure
06:52 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: you can do the hard part
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, it's still a function because it has to return one and only one value for the parameters given
06:52 <luke-jr> make a vValue that turns Movement-derivative into Movement or vice versa
06:52 <luke-jr> it can return an array
06:52 <Lucifer_arma> that's called "scope creep", I suspect
06:53 <luke-jr> hm?
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> if it returns an array, how is the calling code that expects a number supposed to know what to do with it?
06:53 <luke-jr> would it be easier to go directly from Speed/Acceleration to Position?
06:54 <luke-jr> it's not
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> no, because the direction might change.  All position gives you is the distance traveled, it says nothing of the direction
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> you'll need more specific examples, actually
06:54 <luke-jr> no, Speed/Accel would be coordinate sets
06:54 <luke-jr> I think
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> why?  they're not coordinates...
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what would the coordinates mean?
06:55 <luke-jr> for speed, change in (x,y) per t
06:55 <luke-jr> for accel, change in speed in (x,y) per t
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> so the position function is f(x,y) then?
06:56  * Lucifer_arma notes that f(x,y) is a surface, not a path
06:56 <luke-jr> Position would only get 't' and return (x,y) position
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> what type is t?
06:57 <luke-jr> coordinate
06:57 <luke-jr> oh
06:57 <luke-jr> t
06:57 <luke-jr> t is some time representation
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> so float/int/real?
06:57 <luke-jr> floating point probably
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> then Position should return distance traveled in that time
06:57 <luke-jr> no, Position would be the location of the object at that time
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> to get an actual position, you need a vector function
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> then you pass it t and get a vector, the new position of the object is on the tip of the vector
06:58 <luke-jr> wtf is a vector
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> you've never studied vectors?!?
06:59 <luke-jr> lol
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> something like 5i + 6j ?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> or <5,6>
06:59 <GodTodd> no...study is a dirty word
06:59 <luke-jr> might've
06:59 <luke-jr> if I did, I don't remember it right now
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> how about "5 m/sec at 45 degrees"?
06:59 <luke-jr> oh
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> vector is magnitude and direction
06:59 <luke-jr> ok
06:59 <luke-jr> that'd be Speed
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> the position function you're talking about is only magnitude, so it's derivatives can also only be magnitude
06:59 <luke-jr> not Position
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> position would be distance, which is a magnitude
07:00 <luke-jr> Position would be the exact coordinate
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> actual position requires the function return something with a physical position
07:00 <luke-jr> not a derivative at all
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> you've done parametric equations?
07:00 <luke-jr> dunno
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> where the point (x,y) is determined by one equation for x, and another one for y?
07:01 <luke-jr> maybe
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> so x = x(t) and y = y(t)
07:01 <luke-jr> it's been over a year since college... :p
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> a point is then ( x(t), y(t) )
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07:01 <GodTodd> ahhh...but college only taught you things you already knew
07:01 <Durka> #lastseen qain
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> t is usually time, same time you give to the distance function, but what you get out is a set of points that represent a path traveled
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> if you graph it, you'll see an actual path
07:02 <Durka> #lastseen olato
07:02 <luke-jr> GodTodd: as far as computers, which was the purpose
07:02 <Lucifer_arma> changing it to a vector is really just a notation technicality
07:02 <GodTodd> yeah...cuz computers don't require math
07:02 <luke-jr> GodTodd: only very specialized things do
07:03 <armabot> Durka: timed out
07:03 <luke-jr> well, this kind of math anyhow
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> well, a lot of OpenGL that previously didn't make sense started making a lot more sense this semester
07:03 <GodTodd> such as...hmm...programming
07:03 <luke-jr> Durka: timed out
07:03 <luke-jr> GodTodd: nope
07:03 <luke-jr> programming is language, not math
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> I'm now going to recommend everyone wanting to do OPenGL programming take a multivariable calculus class
07:03 <luke-jr> other side of the brain
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> ummmm
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> programming is math :)
07:03 <GodTodd> ummm so you guys aren't talking about programming right now?
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> what's the derivative of gets() ?
07:03 <luke-jr> GodTodd: no
07:03 <Durka> #lastseen rain
07:03 <GodTodd> hmmm
07:04 <luke-jr> we're talking about equations for game physics
07:04 <armabot> Durka: timed out
07:04 <GodTodd> okie dokie
07:04 <Durka> #lastseen plato
07:04 <armabot> Durka: Rainer Lempert has last been seen on  -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server 0 days 7 hours 19 minutes ago.
07:04 <luke-jr> Durka: stfu
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> gets` = getc()
07:04 <GodTodd> which won't be programmed i suppose
07:04 <luke-jr> GodTodd: it already is, we're trying to make it a configuration option :p
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> look, if vValue can store a 3d vector, and have an expression parser, maybe it can store a vector function too
07:04 <GodTodd> by not programming the option in?
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> were you planning on including 3d vectors into vValue?
07:05 <armabot> Durka: timed out
07:05 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: as soon as eCoord can handle 3D
07:05 <luke-jr> IIRC, I have a branch with that
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> make vValue support 3d vectors and eCoord is obsolete :)
07:05 <luke-jr> eCoord will be the class used to store/return vectors :p
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07:06 <Lucifer_arma> well, whatever.  It would be nice to define acceleration due to gravity as -r^2 instead of -8.9
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> (where r is distance from the center of the earth)
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
07:07  * Lucifer_arma goes to grab a smoke
07:07 <luke-jr> Arma isn't played on Earth :p
07:08 <GodTodd> luke is right...i have to learn...if luke says it, it is true
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> it would be more accurate, I think, to view programming as being derived from math, and heavily dependent on it
07:12 <GodTodd> as i do
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> it's hard to look at a system that uses algebraic syntax at its core and say its not math, otoh, it does use the language part of your brain
07:12 <GodTodd> but that is wrong
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> that's why many mathematicians can't program, and many linguists can't program
07:13 <GodTodd> math and programming are separate things
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> to be a programmer you have to have some mathematical ability and some liguistical ability
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> but as luke-jr (hi there!) has demonstrated so well, you don't have to have common sense
07:14 <GodTodd> i was just mainly making the point that he was using the excuse that he hadn't had college math in a while as an excuse after saying college is a complete waste of time because they were teaching him stuff he already knew
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> maybe he doesn't want to admit he didn't study as much calculus as he lets on?
07:15 <GodTodd> he doesn't want to admit he couldn't hack a well rounded education imo
07:15 <mkzelda> he studied ellipses
07:16 <GodTodd> much like a child who gives up on something out of frustration says "well, it's stupid anyway...who'd want to do that?"
07:17  * GodTodd gets peeved when anyone says education is a waste of time.
07:17 <GodTodd> heh
07:17 <Lucifer_arma> education is a waste of time
07:17  * Lucifer_arma dodges
07:17 <GodTodd> sumbitch
07:17 <GodTodd> ;)
07:18 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: syntax is language, not math
07:18 <GodTodd> did you read anything he said?
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> a = b + c is math
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> a = b + c; is c code
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> what's the difference?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> a = sin(b) is math
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> a = sin(b); is c code
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> what's a c function?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> how is it different than f(x) = x^2 + 1 ?
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> besides syntax, it's not.  It's the same concept
07:20  * Lucifer_arma struggled with C when he was 15, then studied functions in his algebra class and suddenly C made sense.  Coincidence?
07:21  * Lucifer_arma notes that many CS degrees only require single variable integral and differential calculus, and applications of such (aka differential equations).
07:21 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I'd argue that calculus should come before algebra, BTW
07:21 <luke-jr> it's easier
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> throw in a token 3 hour science class as part of your core and you wind up with a CS degree that doesn't understand vectors
07:21 <luke-jr> algebra is what gets me
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, that would be like studying sex before puberty
07:22 <luke-jr> "a = b + c" is a mathematical expression, not math itself
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> it won't make any sense at all
07:22 <luke-jr> math would be the meaning of it
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> it means the same thing in math or C
07:22  * luke-jr was programming long before he "took" algebra, and algebra didn't make sense
07:23  * Lucifer_arma too, doesn't change the fact that many of the programming algorithms and constructs we use were dreamed up by 19th century mathematicians.
07:23 <luke-jr> nah, they were programmers-- just didn't know it at the time :p jk
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> now I just need to learn matrices (which I've managed to skip somehow), and OpenGL will finally make complete sense to me :)
07:24 <luke-jr> sure, you need to know higher maths like Calc to write a vehicle-based game like Arma, but not for programming in general
07:25 <luke-jr> obviously, you need to know basic math-- but you need that for anything
07:26 <luke-jr> note that the main stuff I've done w/ arma is unrelated to the game physics-- eg, no calculus involved
07:26 <luke-jr> just geometry and basic stuff
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> I would argue that you learn algebra when you start programming and you don't already know it
07:26 <Lucifer_arma> the reason I had a hard time with algebra even though I'd been programming for years was because the teacher was awfully lazy about the language
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> took it with a teacher who was damned anal about the language, problem went away
07:27 <luke-jr> I never figured out algebra, even eventually
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> I won't say I'm good at it, I suspect a hint of dyslexia at work which is showing in my calculus too
07:27 <luke-jr> how the heck do you turn "4 = 3x * 2y" into x, y?
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> what's so hard to figure out?  It's just a bunch of little skills, there's nothing conceptually hard about it
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> if you have 2 variables, to solve you must have 2 equations
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> so the answer to your question is "you can't"
07:28 <luke-jr> well, maybe I just remember it wrong
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> you can solve for x or y, but you can't solve for values for x or y without knowing something else about both x and y
07:28 <luke-jr> well, for x or y then
07:28 <Lucifer_arma> ok, solve for x
07:28 <luke-jr> that's probably a bad example tho
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> not really, divide by 6y
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> because 3x * 2y = 6xy
07:29 <luke-jr> (4 / 2y) / 3 = x
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> so you have 4 = 6xy
07:29 <luke-jr> ...
07:29 <luke-jr> hm
07:30 <luke-jr> shrug, maybe if I tried again it'd make sense now
07:30 <luke-jr> IIRC, the book I was using was known to be not that great too
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> probably if you just quit assuming you know everything you'd be amazed at how easy it is to learn new things
07:30 <luke-jr> I never claimed I knew algebra or calc :p
07:30 <Lucifer_arma> there are also many more bad algebra teachers than good
07:31 <luke-jr> I didn't get a teacher
07:31 <luke-jr> just myself and the book
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, so many algebra teachers try to dumb down the technical stuff, and the result only confuses people
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, if it were a regular textbook like I've used, then I can understand why you'd have trouble.   :)
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> Textbooks suck.  They're meant to be complimentary to a lecture, not to be used on their own.
07:32 <luke-jr> heh
07:32 <luke-jr> my dad was supposed to be the teacher
07:32 <luke-jr> IIRC, when it came to algebra, he just said he had no clue
07:32 <luke-jr> :p
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> how did you get through any calculus without algebra?
07:33 <luke-jr> it was easy?
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07:33 <luke-jr> O.O
07:33 <luke-jr> O.o*
07:33  * Lucifer_arma wonders if this is the part where we find out luke flunked out of calculus
07:33 <luke-jr> first time was a bad teacher :p
07:33 <luke-jr> second time, it was easy
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07:35 <luke-jr> grr
07:36 <luke-jr> just thinking about that first teacher annoys me
07:36 <luke-jr> he assigned a TON of homework
07:36 <GodTodd> aha...there's the crux....bad educational experiences == education is bad
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  the teacher I'm taking for calc 4 also assigns a ton of homework
07:36 <luke-jr> I think teachers should only be able to assign what they can grade
07:36 <luke-jr> s/able/allowed
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> he's also probably the second best math teacher who ever lived :)
07:37 <GodTodd> better than kellar or is kellar #1?
07:37 <GodTodd> :)
07:37 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: more than he can grade?
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> why?  homework isn't for their benefit, it's for the student
07:37 <luke-jr> students have other classes
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: nope, kellar's the greatest
07:37 <Lucifer_arma> so do teachers
07:37 <luke-jr> we can't dedicate 100% of our time to a single class
07:37 <GodTodd> right...my trig teacher assigned a lot of homework and didn't grade any of it
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> my current calc teacher just goes through the pile, looks to see that there's more than a couple of pages, and writes a check mark on it
07:38 <luke-jr> ...
07:38 <Lucifer_arma> I don't see it taking hiim more than 10 minutes to grade the class's homework :)
07:38 <luke-jr> that teacher just didn't tell us which homework was graded until it was due
07:38 <GodTodd> my trig teacher said that he can just tell by the tests if you've been doing your homework
07:39 <luke-jr> oh, and our graded homework made up part of the final grade
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> when it comes down to it, how much does the teacher care if you do the homework, anyway?
07:39 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: don't ask me
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> so does ours, but that's mostly to give you room to fuck up on a test
07:39 <luke-jr> why do they care if you attend the classes?
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> they don't?
07:39 <GodTodd> they don't
07:39 <luke-jr> I think I'd have done better w/ Discreet if I didn't attend the classes
07:39 <Lucifer_arma> as long as you're learning the material, why should they give a shit?
07:39 <luke-jr> if I didn't attend tho, I'd lose at least a letter off the final grade...
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> besides, in the end it's your grade anyway
07:40 <GodTodd> your grade, your money, your choice
07:40 <GodTodd> it's not high school
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you don't attend, you're not likely to do much better anyway, so why does it matter?
07:40 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: pretty sure I would have in this class
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> now, true, in my school there are teachers who make showing up to class important
07:40 <luke-jr> the book was decent, the teacher wasn't that great
07:40 <luke-jr> time would have been better spent at home reading it
07:40 <Lucifer_arma> was it a private university?
07:40 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: so if your final grade was “failed” you'd get a “ailed”?
07:40 <luke-jr> yes
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> what university was it?
07:41 <luke-jr> Benedictine College
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> catholic school?  :)
07:41 <luke-jr> no
07:41 <luke-jr> conciliarist
07:41 <luke-jr> before I converted
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, I understand religious schools are pretty hardcore on discipline
07:41 <GodTodd> you're catholic and you chose it? man...
07:41 <GodTodd> heh
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> part of discipline is being where you say you're going to be at the time you say you're going to be there
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> and I could see someone interpreting a class registration as a promise to be at a certain place at a certain time
07:42 <GodTodd> yeah...i've heard they're almost as bad as military schools for that
07:43 <luke-jr> ...
07:43 <GodTodd> the teachers i've had so far here have made attending reward you but never count against you
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> at my school, which is a community college, they figure since tax dollars represent a large amount of the school's funding, they would be irresponsible to let kids just fuck off all day long
07:43 <luke-jr> hm
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> since the success of students is known to have a correlation to both how much homework they do and how many lectures they attend, there tends to be some added emphasis on those two things
07:44 <GodTodd> luke-jr: i bet you'd have a different view of college if you tried a public school
07:44 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I'd probably be non-Catholic and probably even worse off than before I converted
07:44 <GodTodd> not necessarily of course but i'd be willing to put money on it
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, supposedly Bush went to Yale...
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> (yeah yeah, Yale's a private school)
07:45 <luke-jr> what's Bush got to do with it?
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> because he's a raving idiot christian, just like you?
07:45 <luke-jr> no, he's a Satanist, like you
07:45 <luke-jr> just claims to be Christian
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> if he were truly a servant of darkness, he wouldn't be talking freedom, pushing the patriot act, and torturing people
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> but he's not, therefore he must be a servant of god
07:46 <luke-jr> you've got it backward :)
07:46 <luke-jr> anyhow
07:46 <luke-jr> wife sez bed time NOW
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> I guarantee you, pound for pound there's more adultery, bestiality, torture, and genocide that's condoned int he christian bible than there is in the satanic bible
07:47 <wrtlprnft>  /away school/not too much interested in another religous debate
07:47 <wrtlprnft> oops
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> hi wrtlprnft (hi there!)
07:47  * GodTodd defies luke to say what religion he is.
07:47 <wrtlprnft> well, i'll be really away now.
07:47 <GodTodd> name*
07:47 <luke-jr> wtf does that even mean, GodTodd?
07:47 <GodTodd> which word did you not understand?
07:48 <luke-jr> as a whole
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> function GodTodd() { LukeGuessGodToddsReligion(); }
07:48 <GodTodd> ^^^
07:48 <GodTodd> :)
07:48 <luke-jr> evolutionism?
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> that's not a religion
07:48 <GodTodd> that's not a religion
07:48 <luke-jr> yes it is
07:48 <GodTodd> nope
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> no it's not
07:48 <luke-jr> it's blind belief in evolution, despite its having been disproven
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> it hasn't been disproven
07:48 <GodTodd> if so...then creationism is as well...and jews and christians are the same
07:48 <luke-jr> many times
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> no times
07:49 <luke-jr> GodTodd: oh, I wasn't specific enough?
07:49 <GodTodd> nah...jews and christians being the same is fine by me :)
07:49  * Lucifer_arma looks for the link ghableska gave us
07:49 <luke-jr> Jews are anti-Christian
07:50 <GodTodd> nope...both are creationists
07:50 <GodTodd> and that's the religion
07:50 <luke-jr> in fact, having found out someone is a Jew, I may cancel our get-together next week
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> right, because Jesus, of course, said "love everyone but jews"
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> "hate jews" - Jesus
07:50 <GodTodd> even tho he was a jew
07:51 <luke-jr> Loving Jews involves non-tolerance of Judaism
07:51 <luke-jr> anyhow, bed time NOW I'm reminded
07:51 <luke-jr> bye
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> anti-semitism doesn't come from the bible, it comes from the fact that the Jewish people historically behaved in very assinine ways
07:51  * GodTodd wonders what kind of whip luke's wife uses...
07:51 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma cool
07:51 <luke-jr> anti-Judaism comes from Jews being anti-Christian
07:52 <luke-jr> bye
07:52 <DrJoeTron> too bad i cant play right now
07:52 <DrJoeTron> maybe in a few hours
07:52 <DrJoeTron> but hey
07:52 <DrJoeTron> guys
07:52 <DrJoeTron> heres kind of a serious question
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> good, that's the only kind of question you can ask here
07:53 <DrJoeTron> what do you think is going to shape the 21st century?
07:53 <DrJoeTron> i need this because im writing a paper
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> my penis
07:53 <DrJoeTron> can you support that?
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> err, I meant that the 21st century will be shaped like my penis
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, I could, but I'd have to use photos
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> more seriously, I think it's a tossup
07:53 <DrJoeTron> well pictures are infact a thousand words
07:53 <DrJoeTron> woth*
07:54 <DrJoeTron> worth*
07:54 <DrJoeTron> fuck
07:54 <DrJoeTron> thank god for spellcheck
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> either we'll have to deal with the dying gasp of Christianity throwing one last period of totalitarianism on us
07:54 <Lucifer_arma> or the thing that will mostly define the 21st century will be space travel, actual manned expansion into space
07:54 <GodTodd> i can agree with that
07:55 <GodTodd> cuz i'm going to go into robotics which will contribute to that
07:55 <DrJoeTron> ok
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> and build howitzers?  :)
07:55 <DrJoeTron> which also goes to computers
07:55 <GodTodd> i can see everything for quite a while revolving around colonizing space
07:55 <DrJoeTron> computers will definatly shape the 21st century
07:56 <Lucifer_arma> society will be transformed and the technology base will advance dramatically because of colonizing space
07:56 <GodTodd> yep
07:56 <GodTodd> you figure...we've spent the last few decades bitching that we're overpopulating the earth...only one place to go then :)
07:56 <DrJoeTron> immigration
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> what about immigration?
07:57 <DrJoeTron> that will also shape it
07:57 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: how about when God pours out his wrath on the world?
07:57 <GodTodd> ironically...if/when we find life in space...*we'll* be the illegal immigrants ;)
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, how much can it shape it?
07:57 <luke-jr> BTW, Earth can easily handle at least 30 billion people
07:57 <Lucifer_arma> you need to back that statement up with credentials
07:57 <GodTodd> and we won't get there in 100 years?
07:58 <luke-jr> the entire current Earth population can fit in Texas
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> but to have those credentials, you'd need to know what a vector was :)
07:58 <luke-jr> just slightly uncomfortably
07:58  * luke-jr goes back to bed
07:58 <GodTodd> isn't it past your bedtime, luke?
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> look, I saw the Mask of Gideon several times
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> she probably wants to screw, and since they're hardcore catholics...no vibrators
07:58 <DrJoeTron> hmm
07:59 <DrJoeTron> what about cold fusion
07:59 <DrJoeTron> if we get it actually working
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> violates the second law of thermodynamics
07:59 <GodTodd> wouldn't that mean they can't screw unless they're trying to make a baby?
07:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you're not trying not to make a baby, you're trying to make a baby.  No conscious decision is required.
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think energy problems are going to have that big of an impact, and I think it's safe to say that new energy sources will be found
08:00 <GodTodd> well...what i mean is that he couldn't even pull out or anything
08:00 <GodTodd> cuz that's a form of birth control
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> for example, in colonizing the moon, solar power is going to play a big role in it
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> if the ITER reactor works out, we'll have fusion power finally
08:00 <GodTodd> nah....looooooooooooooong extension cords ;)
08:00  * Lucifer_arma notes he didn't say "cold fusion", which is pseudoscience
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> physicists recently worked out a hypothetical way to transmit power wirelessly
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> they're going to test it, and we all hope it works out, because if it does, it will make a lot of changes
08:01 <GodTodd> yeah...sounds neat...using resonance of electromagnetic waves
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't know that it will really shape the century really, more like "it'll make the tech base look really neat"
08:01 <Lucifer_arma> but the tech base will become what it will regardless :)
08:02 <DrJoeTron> so lets see
08:02 <GodTodd> i just want to not have to plug in my laptop
08:02 <DrJoeTron> computers
08:02 <GodTodd> heh
08:02 <DrJoeTron> space travel
08:02 <DrJoeTron> what else?
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, hmmmmmm
08:02 <GodTodd> second coming of christ
08:02 <DrJoeTron> second coming of santa
08:02 <Lucifer_arma> you know, I don't know that computers are really going to shape the century.  They'll have their role, but I kind of see computers as already having done whatever damage they're going to do
08:03 <GodTodd> they're just going to make the shaping possible
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> now they're part of the tech base, and just like we don't really think of screws and bolts as shaping the world, neither will computers
08:03 <DrJoeTron> so what about the internet?
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> same thing, it's alredy done whatever damage it's going to do :)
08:03 <DrJoeTron> i think it will do more
08:03 <GodTodd> yeah...it's peaked
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, what's left is essentially cleanup, but the internet has been successfully integrated into society
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> anything that comes next is going to depend on advances that frankly I don't think it's safe to predict
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> like if we got direct neural interfacing, that will transform society, but is it really going to happen?
08:04 <Lucifer_arma> can't say
08:04 <GodTodd> it's definitely going to be an exciting century i think
08:05 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: it's about here
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> fusion has been "about here" for 20 years
08:05 <DrJoeTron> well its a english 101 persuasive essay
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> yet TXU is reopening a coal plant
08:05 <DrJoeTron> i could say pudding is going to shape the 21st century
08:05 <GodTodd> www.brainfingers.com
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> and as long as you support it, you get an A, right?
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> I'm biased, better get another point from someone else.  I'm stuck on space travel.  :)
08:06 <DrJoeTron> well space travel is very good
08:06 <Lucifer_arma> I think something that will play a role is the downfall of American power
08:06 <DrJoeTron> but i need 2 more paragraphs
08:06 <DrJoeTron> its that crappy 5 paragraph essay
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> I think US power has peaked and the republic has already dissolved into something monstrous
08:07 <GodTodd> the 1-3-1 form?
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> um, all of my comp 1 essays were 5 paragraph essays :)
08:07 <Lucifer_arma> except the research paper, which was much longer
08:07 <GodTodd> yeah...it's standard
08:07 <GodTodd> that's still in essence the 5 paragraph paper
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> the thing is, I don't know how much US decline will shape the century, nor am I able to predict who will step in to the vacuum there
08:08 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd, yeah
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> I hope it's the EU, but I can't really predict it
08:08 <GodTodd> "tell us what you're going to tell us, then the three main points, then tell us you told us"
08:08 <DrJoeTron> yup
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  I told my wife that's how you answer an essay question and she refused to believe me
08:08 <GodTodd> that's how i was taught
08:08 <GodTodd> by more than one teacher :)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> first rewrite the question into a sentence, that's your main sentence, then write 3 sentences to support it, then write it again.
08:09 <GodTodd> yep
08:09 <GodTodd> in a different way
08:10 <GodTodd> i remember my comp2 persuasive paper...i debunked global warming
08:10 <GodTodd> heh
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'm starting to support global warming :)
08:10 <GodTodd> nah
08:10 <GodTodd> well...it is a fact...but it's a natural cycle
08:10 <GodTodd> just like global cooling
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> I remember my high school english teacher getting pissed at me for demonstrating Kafka was gay
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> well, here's the thing about global warming
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's caused by humans, maybe not.  We'll probably know some day
08:11 <DrJoeTron> so climate change
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> but whether it is or isn't, it's happening, and we have to adapt to it
08:11 <GodTodd> it's not, imo
08:11 <DrJoeTron> climate change space travel
08:11 <GodTodd> :)
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> many of those adaptions require us to reduce whatever contribution we've made to it
08:11 <GodTodd> adapt to it, yes...but to try and stop it is futile
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> but what nobody seems to want to talk about is the potential effect those reductions will have
08:12 <GodTodd> exactly
08:12 <GodTodd> don't volcanoes emit cfcs?
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> there's a neat book on the baen free library which tells a good sci fi story in the context of a world where the effect those reductions had were to plunge us into an overdue ice age
08:12 <DrJoeTron> yes
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> which was even more disastrous than global warming's worst scenario!
08:12 <DrJoeTron> but us doing it doesnt help
08:13 <DrJoeTron> i dont believe in global warming
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think if it's us doing it, it does help, because that means we have some control oer the environment
08:13 <GodTodd> the environment will kick our asses everytime
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> and if we exercise that control judiciously and responsibly, and make sure to shepherd our resources, we can make this planet a really nice place
08:13 <Lucifer_arma> all it really means is that I'm currently on the side of the environmentalists :)
08:14 <Lucifer_arma> I don't necessarily agree with them, and many of them are also raving save-the-furry-creatures loony
08:14 <GodTodd> i can see moderating our emmissions...which i'm all for....but the extreme environmentalists are misguided
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, it just doesn't make sense to pump up billions of tons of carbon from the ground and process it into known toxic chemicals and just dump that into the atmosphere
08:15 <Lucifer_arma> just like you don't shit on your dinner plate
08:15 <DrJoeTron> <--needs a 3rd topic
08:15 <GodTodd> for instance...taken in a small picture context...temperatures here are currently below normal...should i run out spraying aerosols?
08:16 <DrJoeTron> no
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> I think the EU is going to be a big part of the 21st century
08:16 <DrJoeTron> EU?
08:16 <GodTodd> european union
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, global warming predicts more extreme weather, not just warmer weather
08:16 <DrJoeTron> ah
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, European Union.  I think they're going to get a constitution early in the 21st century
08:16 <Lucifer_arma> they're already a growing economic power
08:17 <GodTodd> if they can truly work together....they'll take our place as #1 superpower
08:17 <Lucifer_arma> no longer a series of small states, the EU is a larger united power
08:17 <DrJoeTron> how about betamax :V
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, to be honest I see either fierce competition between the US and EU over space exploration, ala the competition between Britain and Spain/France in the New World
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> or I see WW3 finally, and there isn't a strong nuclear exchange in it
08:18 <Lucifer_arma> mostly conventional weapons
08:18 <GodTodd> i just don't want another friggin cold war
08:18 <GodTodd> wasn't it einstein who said that ww3 would be fought with "sticks and stones"?
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> it was something like "I do not know with what weapons world war 3 will be fought, but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones"
08:19 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know.  I think the kids that grew up during the cold war seem to be smarter than the kids that have grown up since.
08:19 <GodTodd> i thought it was ww3
08:20 <GodTodd> probably a product of the international competition....i bet more of our generation know chess than kids since
08:20 <DrJoeTron> i think the baby boomers need to be retired faster
08:21 <GodTodd> bah...it is ww4 :/
08:21 <GodTodd> "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
08:21 <GodTodd> Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> they need to get old enough to retire first
08:22 <Lucifer_arma> my mom's pre-baby boomer and she still hasn't reached retirement age
08:23  * Lucifer_arma notes for reference that the baby boomers were born in the late 40s and early 50s
08:24 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, I think there's a possibility the EU will dissolve into a war instead of completing the union, but I'm optimistic
08:24 <GodTodd> Baby Boomers
08:24 <GodTodd> 1946–1964
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> wow, all the way into the 60s?
08:25 <GodTodd> yeah
08:25 <Lucifer_arma> I was born in 1974...
08:25 <GodTodd> In the United States, the term is iconic and more properly capitalized as Baby Boomers and commonly applied to people with birth years after World War II (WW II) and before the Vietnam War, thus possibly comprising more than one generation.
08:25 <DrJoeTron> my parents are baby boomers
08:25 <GodTodd> yeah..we're generation x :/
08:26 <GodTodd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomer
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> we're the loser generation
08:26 <GodTodd> well...we're gen x and the mtv generation
08:26 <Lucifer_arma> I think Dave Mustaine summed up our generation pretty well.  "We are the damned of all the world etc etc"
08:26 <GodTodd> 1963-1978 and 1975-1984
08:26 <GodTodd> errr...you're just x
08:27 <GodTodd> :)
08:27 <DrJoeTron> generation y here
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> Nov 1974 lumps me in with the 1975 brats
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> same grade, you know
08:27 <GodTodd> 85 or 86, joe?
08:27 <DrJoeTron> and boomerang
08:27 <DrJoeTron> 86
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> my wife's 1980 :)
08:27 <DrJoeTron> i made the cut off
08:27 <Lucifer_arma> damn kid
08:27 <GodTodd> she's culture wars then too :)
08:28 <GodTodd> new silent generation...wtf does that mean?
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> young enough not to have experienced the cold war in a direct fashion, but old enough not to be dumb like (sorry joe) most of the kids out there
08:28 <Lucifer_arma> not saying joe's dumb, he's just in the age range I'm talking about :)
08:29 <GodTodd> The term is a reflection of Howe's and Strauss's theory that the characteristics of American generations are cyclical, and the generation currently being born will share characteristics with the Silent Generation, born in the span of years between 1925 and 1945.
08:29 <GodTodd> that's interesting in a metaphysical sense
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> scary
08:29 <Lucifer_arma> it means my daughter's going to grow up to be my mom
08:30 <Lucifer_arma> no, her names' not Antigone
08:30 <GodTodd> well...i believe in reincarnation...whether anyone thinks it's sane or not :)
08:31 <GodTodd> heh that shut everyone up
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> joe probably went off to write his paper
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> I'll bet it's due tomorrow
08:31 <GodTodd> sounded kinda like it
08:33 <Lucifer_arma> The exact demographic boundaries of Generation X are not well defined: persons born between 1963-1975 are generally considered "Gen X'ers", while others use the term to describe anyone who was a twentysomething sometime during the 1990's.
08:33 <GodTodd> yeah...we're the slackers
08:34 <DrJoeTron> way to slack
08:35 <GodTodd> yet...us slackers are in school while out of a sample of two 20-21 y/o's only one is furthering their education
08:35 <GodTodd> heh
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> Or like one Gen-Xer summarized it: Baby Boomers had sex, drugs and rock-and-roll. We got HIV, neo-conservativism and new wave
08:35 <Lucifer_arma> here?
08:35 <GodTodd> here?
08:35 <GodTodd> the sample?
08:35 <GodTodd> yeah
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> lot more school kids than that, I think
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
08:36 <GodTodd> yeah...but that's the thing with stats....the stat maker chooses the sample :P
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> you might actually be right :)
08:36 <GodTodd> personally...even if i use my trig class as a sample
08:37 <GodTodd> started with 36...ending with 8
08:37 <GodTodd> all that's left are the older people
08:38 <GodTodd> i think we just grew up with "hippies" for parents and so decided to go their way for a while...then we didn't like that after a while and decided slacking wasn't all that great
08:38 <GodTodd> :)
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> Gen X knows that the United States landed on the moon, from reading the history books; but they did not live through it and feel the national pride: it is a "so what".
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> you're nto seriously describing my parents as hippies, I know you aren't
08:38 <DrJoeTron> nostalgia will pave the way!
08:39 <GodTodd> not in particular...but as a generation...
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'd say our attitude about the moon landings is less "so what" and more "but that was it, and you promised us more than that, you jerkoffs!"
08:39 <DrJoeTron> who doesnt love nostalgia
08:39 <GodTodd> yeah...that "so what" is what's going to cause us to colonize the damn thing :)
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> actually, my parents are hippies by philosophy, they just chose a more traditional lifestyle, because free choice is a big part of hippy philosophy :)
08:39 <GodTodd> yep
08:40 <GodTodd> there's different extremes of hippy
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> I think we're the Five Guys in Shorts Generation
08:40 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
08:40 <GodTodd> they obviously arent the 'flower child' variety
08:40 <GodTodd> five guys in shorts?
08:41 <GodTodd> bah
08:41 <GodTodd> i'm slow
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> who gives a shit, we do what we like we don't care where we fit
08:41 <GodTodd> yeah yeah
08:41 <GodTodd> i got it
08:41 <GodTodd> :P
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> all you new jacks what is this, you're getting me, get off my dick!
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> *kidding
08:43 <GodTodd> that's 'i'm the man' isn't it?
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> In Iran, they are called the Burnt Generation.
08:43 <GodTodd> been a while since i listened to that album
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> I think Iranians might be smarter than we give them credit for!
08:43 <DrJoeTron> y'know as i think about it
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> um, I'm the Man is a single :)
08:43 <DrJoeTron> us landing on the moon is pretty fucking cool.
08:43 <GodTodd> it's on attack of the killer b's
08:43 <GodTodd> :P
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> "killer b's"
08:43  * Lucifer_arma notes the liner notes even say "this is not the new Anthrax album"
08:44 <GodTodd> i'm using it in a loose way...not a technical way
08:44 <GodTodd> :P
08:44 <GodTodd> sumbitch
08:44 <GodTodd> heh
08:44 <GodTodd> been a while since i listened to that *cd*
08:44 <GodTodd> how's that?
08:45 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron: it'd be even cooler if we took the next step tho
08:45 <DrJoeTron> going into the center of the earth?
08:45 <DrJoeTron> because that would be awesome too
08:45 <GodTodd> no...colonization
08:45 <GodTodd> we've had 35 years or so
08:45 <DrJoeTron> i think that could be bad later
08:46 <DrJoeTron> the colonies will rise up and fight back after earths tyranny
08:46 <DrJoeTron> i've watched anime before
08:46 <GodTodd> heh
08:46 <GodTodd> england got over it :)
08:46 <DrJoeTron> yeah but the moon will have giant robots
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> Hostility between Baby Boomers and Generation X increased in the 1980s and 1990s as Gen Xers accused Baby Boomers of hypocrisy and a "greed is good" mentality and Baby Boomers accused Gen Xers of being slackers.
08:47 <GodTodd> hahahah
08:47 <GodTodd> yuppies vs. slackers
08:47 <GodTodd> :)
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> I think we were right
08:47 <DrJoeTron> you ARE right
08:47 <DrJoeTron> :)
08:47 <DrJoeTron> fuck past tense
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> but they were also right, we are slackers :)
08:47 <GodTodd> we can put them in homes soon...of course we're right :)
08:48 <DrJoeTron> i just wrote an epic intro
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> Generation X is also marked by its lack of optimism for the future, nihilism, cynicism and lack of beliefs and trust on basic values. In this sense the Generation X can be called as the first Postmodern generation
08:48 <DrJoeTron> so i should do space travel, climate change
08:48 <GodTodd> joe....it was the best of times, it was the worst of times..that's already taken ;)
08:48 <Lucifer_arma> yep, I can agree with that last part.  I've noticed a rise in common sense and a sink in idiot religions
08:48 <DrJoeTron> i still need a third
08:49 <GodTodd> ender's game
08:49 <GodTodd> that centers around a third
08:49 <GodTodd> :)
08:49 <DrJoeTron> no not a thirdie
08:49 <GodTodd> no...it's just third
08:49 <DrJoeTron> i third topic :p
08:49 <DrJoeTron> no thats how they mocked the thirds
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> say something about Generation Y coming into power with their whiny rock music and wusses-for-metalheads
08:50 <DrJoeTron> "stupid third-ie:
08:50 <GodTodd> heh
08:50 <GodTodd> true
08:50 <DrJoeTron> grunge?
08:51 <DrJoeTron> grunge is amazing compared to what has become of the music we have now
08:51 <DrJoeTron> god i hate the new crap
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> he's already 30
08:51 <GodTodd> who?
08:51 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron:
08:51 <DrJoeTron> i am fairly bitter for my age
08:51 <GodTodd> nah...he just plays it in irc
08:51 <GodTodd> ;)
08:51 <DrJoeTron> I KAN PLY LIK A 13 Y O LOL
08:52 <DrJoeTron> DIS IS MY BROS OLD COMP
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> I"ll tell you what, man, what I wouldn't give sometimes for a good, old-fashioned metalhead
08:52 <GodTodd> we're a pretty cynical generation but look at what we grew up with...
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> Crankster Crap?
08:52  * GodTodd is a good old fashioned metalhead.
08:52 <DrJoeTron> Kop Killa
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> Q: Why are community colleges taking in so many new students right now?
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> A: Generation X decided to grow up, finally.
08:53 <GodTodd> that's my belief
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> there are so many 28-34yo kids in my school, it's un-fucking-believable
08:53 <GodTodd> we got sick of slacking and now are determined to shape the world instead of bitching about it
08:53 <DrJoeTron> Fuck it, computers it is
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> Come on, man, Generation X going to school is a Big Deal
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> we're gonna makeover the world
08:54 <GodTodd> gen x will shape the 21st century
08:54 <GodTodd> seriously
08:54 <DrJoeTron> can we pee all over it?
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> we're finally gonna tell our parents to fuck off, and have the retirement home to back us up
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> we're gonna say "You couldn't run your lives, you sure in the hell won't run mine"
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> (where we used to say "you couldn't run your lives, wtf makes you think you can run mine?")
08:55 <GodTodd> heh
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> we really aren't going to take it anymore :)
08:56  * Lucifer_arma considers writing a song "We really aren't going to take it anymore"
08:56  * GodTodd jams to twisted sister in his head.
08:56 <GodTodd> heh
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> record it under the name Sisted Twister :)
08:56 <GodTodd> he fucking sold out too
08:56 <GodTodd> sumbitch
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> ?  last I heard he had a show on a radio station up in Seattle
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> this would be ~3 years ago
08:57 <GodTodd> he's syndicated
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> really?
08:57 <GodTodd> some station here carries it
08:57 <GodTodd> yeah
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> syndicated from seattle :)
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> he does various promotional spots around seattle all the time
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> how the *fuck* can you accuse a hair band of selling out?
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's like telling a shark "you ate a fish!"
08:58 <GodTodd> Dee Snider and Debbie Rochon host FANGORIA RADIO, which airs on Sirius Satellite, channel 102, at 10 PM till 1 AM EST every Friday!
08:58 <GodTodd> i can tell anyfuckingone they sold out :P
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> saying that twisted sister sold out is like saying that catholics are dumb
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> it's self-evident
08:59 <GodTodd> well...i know
08:59 <GodTodd> but i can still say it
08:59 <DrJoeTron> bah dup tsss!
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter if they sold out or not, we still grew up singing "We're not gonna take it" and "We don't need no education"
09:00 <GodTodd> yep
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> even though our parents tried to stop us from hearing that music
09:00 <GodTodd> i just liked his makeup...that's all
09:00 <DrJoeTron> yeah i bet you did
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> I wanted to see his lips wrapped around my penis
09:00 <GodTodd> i remember my mom getting freaked out when she finally saw the cover for one of my iron maiden albums
09:00 <GodTodd> heh
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> haha
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> my mom thought that Madonna video was something we shouldn't watch
09:01 <GodTodd> eddie doesn't make a good first impression, i guess
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> Like a Prayer
09:01 <GodTodd> like a virgin?
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> no wait
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, Just like a prayer, I wanna take you there!
09:01 <GodTodd> ahhh
09:01 <GodTodd> virgin was worse
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> because it shows her doing weird shit with a knife and real blood
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> the irony is that I got so mad at her for trying to censor me that I went and rocked out with slayer for awhile
09:02 <GodTodd> yeah...slayer is much more wholesome :)
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> the brush of dead, cold flesh appease the (something)
09:02 <GodTodd> appease the need i thikn
09:02 <GodTodd> think*
09:02 <GodTodd> dead skin mask
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> yep
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> I scared my daughter one time by playing that song on my guitar
09:03 <GodTodd> based on the ed gein story
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> she said "Daddy, you're scaring me, play something else!"
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> I wasn't even singing it, just playing the guitar part
09:03 <GodTodd> like king diamond? ;)
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> haha, here's something you'll like
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> we were in my wife's car, and I had climbin' the walls in the cd player
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter says "I want to hear songs about vampires, that would be cool"
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> so I skipped it up to the appropriate song for her
09:04 <GodTodd> haha
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> a few minutes into it, "Daddy, this song isn't about vampires!"
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> !?
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> so later on, she was in my car (with the other kids), and I had 3d in there
09:04 <Lucifer_arma> and it was playing Spy, and she whispers to her brother "This song is about vampires!"
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> it was night time, so she got really scared
09:05 <GodTodd> heh
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> half way through Gentleman Death she started screaming, she was so scared
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> poor girl.  I skipped to Surrounded by Idiots and she was fine
09:06 <GodTodd> heh
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> at least we know she won't go rushing into the arms of the evil metalheads out of curiosity (like our generation did)
09:07 <GodTodd> i like evil metalheads
09:07 <Lucifer_arma> evil devil-worshipping cat-sacrificing er metalheads
09:07 <DrJoeTron> >:/ i like cats
09:08 <GodTodd> i do too...they taste like chicken
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> Joe, you ever hear waht AC/DC stands for?
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> aha, I'm in Generation XY!
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> yep, I'm reading the list of stuff that makes you Generation XY and saying "That's my childhood!"
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> The Satanic ritual abuse panic throughout the 1980s and up to the mid 1990s, bringing Satanism back into the mass media's eye.
09:20 <GodTodd> yeah...xy sounds like what i remember
09:22 <GodTodd> Those born prior to 1985 can also remember the early stages of the World Wide Web - including the first original chat applications such as ICQ and Yahoo! (one of the pioneering "dotcoms" in the 1990s) along with AltaVista being the first major search engines.
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, then their list of bands are all stuff I didn't like when it came out, preferring to stick with older 80s rock'n'roll and metal
09:23 <GodTodd> yeah...but they're going with the majority
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> but I'd say the satanic ritual abuse panic is a defining part of my life somehow (and actually the source of my AC/DC question)
09:23 <GodTodd> and i think it's safe to say we shunned the majority :)
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> they are, and it's a cusp generation which by definition contains traits from the one before it and the one after it
09:24 <GodTodd> right
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> but I definitely remember as a kid the feeling that there was a satanist behind every tree waiting to do something really mean to you
09:24 <GodTodd> yeah
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> and if you listened to <this music> you'll become one of them!
09:24 <GodTodd> definitely
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> and they were right, and it happened, and I listened to that music, and it has happened
09:25 <GodTodd> i remember motley crue being thought of as satanic
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> I just can't see how they thought it was a bad thing :)
09:25 <GodTodd> i listened to it too and i'm not a satanist :P
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, they are.  :)
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> I carry my crucifix under my deathlist, forward my mail to me in hell
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> - Motley Crue
09:26 <GodTodd> i'm far from christian...but not a satanist
09:26 <GodTodd> nothing against satanists however
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, I tend to take Anton LaVey's definition for the meaning of the word, which is basically "people that embrace philosophies and behaviors that are considered sinful to fundamentalist whackjobs like luke-jr (hi there!) )
09:29 <GodTodd> hmmm...by that definition i'm satanic then
09:29 <GodTodd> heh
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> yep :)
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> and so is everything worthwhile, and nothing that is not worthwhile
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> it's a really nice way of looking at the world, I think
09:30 <GodTodd> but i don't believe in satan as an entity, however
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> and you don't have to join the Church of Satan to do it
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> neither does he.  Satan in the satanic bible is explicitly not an anthropomorphic being, light energy, or anything like that
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> Satan is a fictional character who represents a very real and human way of life
09:30 <GodTodd> i do believe in a higher power, tho
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> aha, well, sorry :)
09:31 <GodTodd> :)
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> you might be right, but I think I like life better when I think I control it
09:31 <GodTodd> higher power != no control
09:31 <GodTodd> outside of christianity anyway
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> Other terms that have been used in conjunction with this generation include:
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> # Loli-boomers[6]
09:32 <GodTodd> my higher power is more of a "hands off" higher power
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron is a loliboomer
09:32 <DrJoeTron> lolita?
09:33 <DrJoeTron> D: don't compare me to jerk wads, jerk wad.
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IGeneration  <--- real, honest citation
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> loli-boomer
09:33 <GodTodd> joe is in the same generation as luke
09:33 <GodTodd> :D
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> luke's a loli-boomer too
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> but my wife thankfully is not
09:35 <GodTodd> ahhh that's from the new hippie movement
09:36 <GodTodd> The term comes from the first two letters of the words 'love' and 'light', a greeting or sign-off used by the emerging multitude of green, spiritual and holistically-minded people, hence the loli-boomers.
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> no way
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> it comes from lol
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> it has to
09:36 <GodTodd> nope
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> that's the only way I can use it to tease joe
09:37 <GodTodd> heh
09:37 <GodTodd> how about "sucking a lollypop" therefore loliboomers suck
09:37 <GodTodd> ?
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> but I like how my wife sucks a lollipop
09:38 <DrJoeTron> does she just bite it?
09:38 <DrJoeTron> i bet she bites it
09:38 <DrJoeTron> is she a biter?
09:38 <GodTodd> nah...no teeth
09:38 <GodTodd> :)
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> she licks it and does all this crazy shit with it, then bites it in half
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> it's awesome because someone usually watches her with a woody
09:38 <Lucifer_arma> (not me, I've seen it too many times)
09:39 <DrJoeTron> you used to say the same about me :(
09:39 <GodTodd> you still give me a woody, joe
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> yeah joe, I've got an entire tree just for you
09:40 <GodTodd> i have the whole fuckin forest
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> mine's a rain forest
09:45 <GodTodd> mines a redwood forest
09:46 <GodTodd> joe's masturbating thinking of our dicks, you know
09:52 <DrJoeTron> im that easy to read these days arent i.
09:57 <GodTodd> yep
10:00 <DrJoeTron> god im typing so slow
10:02 <DrJoeTron> you know computers really are going to shape the 21st century
10:02 <DrJoeTron> and im not just saying PC's
10:02 <DrJoeTron> i totally agree with them being peaked,
10:02 <DrJoeTron> but lets face it, we're lazy
10:02 <DrJoeTron> we always want something to do something to do our meaningless tasks for us.
10:03 <DrJoeTron> sorry, my record skipped
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> you don't have kids yet, do you?
10:06 <DrJoeTron> nope
10:06 <DrJoeTron> im probably going to adopt when i consider having kids.
10:06 <DrJoeTron> my genes are far to recessive to be spread.
10:07 <Lucifer_arma> Moltke's famous statement that "No campaign plan survives first contact with the enemy" i
10:08 <Lucifer_arma> is that a fancy way of saying "I haven't had much luck getting laid"?
10:09 <DrJoeTron> at least oscilloscope is fixed
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> "No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it."
10:10 <DrJoeTron> i dont know if the world could handle two of him roaming the world.
10:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'm fixed, too
10:10 <DrJoeTron> yeah but you already planted your seeds of evil
10:10 <DrJoeTron> he hasn't
10:10 <GodTodd> i'm still broken
10:10 <GodTodd> heh
10:10 <DrJoeTron> you know im looking at my paper
10:11 <DrJoeTron> and the first paragraph could very well be my essay.
10:11 <DrJoeTron> i think i wil..
10:11 <DrJoeTron> haha
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/VomKriege2/ONWARTOC2.HTML
10:13 <Lucifer_arma> Now, philanthropists may easily imagine there is a skilful method of disarming and overcoming an enemy without causing great bloodshed, and that this is the proper tendency of the art of War. However plausible this may appear, still it is an error which must be extirpated; for in such dangerous things as war, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are just the worst.
10:27 <DrJoeTron> HAI LUCI CAN U HALP ME SET UP A SERVER? OR R U GHEY?
10:45 <DrJoeTron> thats it, im ripping the insert key out of the keyboard
10:54 <Lucifer_arma> don't do it, joe!
11:03 <DrJoeTron> :(
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> anyone want to play scorched3d?
11:38 <spidey> ..
11:41 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: bind it to something useful
11:41  * wrtlprnft is doing the same with capslock
11:42 <DrJoeTron> i popped out the caps lock button
11:43 <wrtlprnft> what a waste
11:44 <wrtlprnft> it's a big key right next to your fingers. Give it a real use!
11:49 <DrJoeTron> i'd give it a horrible use
11:49 <DrJoeTron> so this is better
11:51 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
11:51 <armabot> spidey: [06:46:12] <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: it broke spidey's sound, [06:42:49] <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: spidey (hi there!) I figured out why scorched3d didn't work for me, and I fixed it :), [04:19:54] <ghableska> spidey, spidey, [23:59:19] <luke-jr_work> spidey: PM, [23:48:48] <luke-jr_work> spidey: there is no 2.8.2.1, [22:35:16] <GodTodd> spidey sux, [22:15:24] <Durka> why is spidey op?, [21:44:22] * guru3 slaps (9 more messages)
11:53 <spidey> DrJoeTron, wrtlprnft ping
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> #last --with idiot --nolimit
11:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [09:08:15] <Lucifer_arma> poor girl.  I skipped to Surrounded by Idiots and she was fine, [08:51:39] <Lucifer_arma> yep, I can agree with that last part.  I've noticed a rise in common sense and a sink in idiot religions, [07:48:28] <Lucifer_arma> because he's a raving idiot christian, just like you?, [05:24:17] <GodTodd> i've found people tend to act like idiots anyway, [05:23:51] <mkzelda> and made (2 more messages)
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> #more
11:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: people act like idiots b/c its tv, [05:05:19] <mkzelda> and everyone around here acted like idiots b/c tv crews were around, [20:36:35] <wrtlprnft> Only idiots write in color all the time!, [01:30:46] <Lucifer_arma> and as idiot catholic adults tend to put it, "Do it my way or go to hell, it's your choice!", which we know damn well is no choice, [01:30:23] <Lucifer_arma> but it could also hide (1 more message)
11:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, www.fallin-angels.com/phpBB2 that load for you?
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> don't know
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> #more
11:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: the fact that they were ordered to by some idiot catholic adult, [00:33:23] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they let gay people get married there.  The idiot governor's trying to get it reversed somehow by doing an end-run around the people, and [22:30:52] <Lucifer_arma> so?  idiot has the word luke in it, what's your point?
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> hang on
11:56 <Lucifer_arma> yep
11:56 <spidey> gay
11:56 <Lucifer_arma> where were you when I was ready to play scorched3d?  :)
11:56  * Lucifer_arma fixed it, it was Xgl.
11:56 <spidey> ugh
11:56 <spidey> no
11:56 <spidey> it crashes my vid drivers, remember?
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> you didn't fix that?  :/
11:57 <spidey> ...
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> does it do it in windowed mode?
11:57 <spidey> dunno
11:57 <spidey> but i hate rebooting so i'm not gonna try :p
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> so your gaming platform is having trouble with a really cool-looking game.....
11:58 <DrJoeTron> pong
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> ping
11:58 <DrJoeTron> whatcha need spidey
11:58 <Lucifer_arma> #pang
11:58 <spidey> pong
11:58 <spidey> OMG YOU MISSED THE BALL!
11:58 <spidey> DrJoeTron, nvm luci checked
11:58 <spidey> for some reason i can't load forums
11:59 <spidey> everything else seems to load
11:59 <spidey> just not any forums
11:59 <DrJoeTron> dell makes crappy computers
11:59 <spidey> ....
11:59 <spidey> stfu
11:59 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of computers, did you send that one yet?
11:59 <spidey> ?
11:59 <DrJoeTron> no, i'm sorry :/
12:00 <DrJoeTron> i actually lost half of the case
12:00 <DrJoeTron> its somewhere
12:00 <DrJoeTron> i just need to clean this place up
12:00 <DrJoeTron> maybe i'll send it as a christmas present :D
12:03 <spidey> i want a xmas present too
12:05 <DrJoeTron> ok
12:05 <DrJoeTron> i'll send you a blank cd-r
12:05 <spidey> lol
12:05 <spidey> grrr
12:05 <spidey> brb i'ma reboot
12:06 <spidey> first
12:06 <DrJoeTron> and an insert button
12:06 <spidey> just for luci i'ma see if scorthced does whatever
12:06 <DrJoeTron> i need to redownload scorch3d
12:06 <DrJoeTron> no no
12:06 <DrJoeTron> i need to type my paper first
12:07 <spidey> ...
12:07 <spidey> it loaded
12:07 <spidey> o.o
12:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm going to bed, so finish your paper
12:08 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, how do i shoot? ;x
12:08 <Lucifer_arma> -/= are power
12:09 <Lucifer_arma> arrow keys turn it and raise/lower, with airplane controls
12:09 <Lucifer_arma> space bar fires
12:09 <Lucifer_arma> 0-9 are different camera views
12:10 <DrJoeTron> i should be able to play tomorrow
12:10 <DrJoeTron> ern
12:10 <DrJoeTron> today.
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12:14 <Lucifer_arma> whenever is fine, it's just a game.  :)  I'm going to bed for real now
12:14 <Lucifer_arma> #night
12:14 <armabot> Good night Lucifer_arma!
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12:23 <spidey> DrJoeTron, http://flyff.gpotato.com/
12:23 <DrJoeTron> im shoving you down the stairs
12:23 <spidey> ?
12:23 <DrJoeTron> you can't be serious
12:24 <spidey> ...
12:24 <spidey> http://game.ijji.com/download.nhn?m=arcade&gameId=u_gunz
12:24 <DrJoeTron> oh god
12:24 <DrJoeTron> die!
12:24 <DrJoeTron> oh wow ijji bought gunz too?
12:24 <DrJoeTron> i thought it was just gunbound
12:24 <spidey> ?
12:24 <DrJoeTron> fuck gunz
12:25 <DrJoeTron> if you like playing with bickering 14 year old otaku's
12:25 <DrJoeTron> or liked Oni for some reason
12:25 <DrJoeTron> that game was bad
12:26 <spidey> heh
12:28 <DrJoeTron> most of these games you are finding i played years ago :p
12:28 <DrJoeTron> and quit playing for valid reasons
12:28 <DrJoeTron> the only game im still playing is armagetron from durring my "oh cool FREE GAMES LOL" years.
12:33 <spidey> well
12:33 <spidey> i'ma go play americasarmy
12:33 <spidey> cause i'm getting good at it >.>
12:48 <DrJoeTron> have fun play crap
12:48 <DrJoeTron> :D
13:06 <spidey> ..
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16:15 <spidey> DrJoeTron, ping
16:15 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6476 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tools/ (tDirectories.cpp tSysTime.cpp): Added inclusion of unistd.h where it was needed.
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18:46 <deja_vu> *.*
18:46 <deja_vu> finally
18:46 <deja_vu> internet at home *.*
18:55 <spidey> deja_vu,
18:56 <DrJoeTron> spidey pong?
18:57 <deja_vu> spidey:
18:57 <deja_vu> spidey ping!
19:03 <spidey> deja_vu, deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu
19:03 <spidey> deja_vu, deja_vu deja_vu deja_vu
19:03 <spidey> DrJoeTron, http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/6463/desktoprd4.gif
19:04 <spidey> :D
19:04 <DrJoeTron> vista?
19:04 <spidey> nah
19:05 <DrJoeTron> and you wonder why your computer cant handle americas army
19:05 <spidey> ...
19:05 <DrJoeTron> with a gui i like that
19:05 <spidey> my computer can
19:05 <spidey> noob
19:05 <DrJoeTron> no I*
19:05 <spidey> i run 22fps on the old maps
19:05 <DrJoeTron> noob?
19:05 <spidey> 7-8fps on the new ones
19:05 <spidey> but it still runs smoothly
19:05 <DrJoeTron> you suck spidey
19:05 <DrJoeTron> on many levels
19:06 <DrJoeTron> thats because AA sucks
19:06 <spidey> you suck
19:06 <spidey> with this skin i haven't noticed a change in performance
19:07 <spidey> maybe your computer can't handle it...but mine can :p
19:07 <DrJoeTron> my shitty dell couldnt
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19:07 <wrtlprnft> i love those black boxes around the desktop icons' texts
19:07 <spidey> ?
19:07 <spidey> i could disable that
19:07 <spidey> it's a option :p
19:08 <DrJoeTron> ahahaha
19:08 <wrtlprnft> still looks even more ugly than the rest :P
19:08 <DrJoeTron> i just use classic mode with an mspaint backround i drew
19:12 <DrJoeTron> nappy time
19:12 <spidey> lol
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20:38 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6477 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build_codeblocks/makedist.bat:
20:38 <armabot> armagetronad: Corrected winlibs path. I'm always using makedist.bat from the build_visualc
20:38 <armabot> armagetronad: directory, so I don't know whether this change is enough, the two versions are a
20:38 <armabot> armagetronad: bit out of sync. But Pig said the change was all that was required.
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21:11 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/manta/fortress/quasar-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by manta
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21:25 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:25 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (9 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (8 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (7 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (7 players) || Stormcrow's Tower (7 players) || -=|LoD|=- Sumo Temporary Server (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6 players) || Shrunkland in (1 more message)
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22:03 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/nano/fortress/nano_sumo_box-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
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23:21 <Vanhayes> hello ghableska
23:21 <ghableska> hey Vanhayes
23:21 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:21 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (3:54 PM CST on December 08, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa.
23:25 <wrtlprnft> hi
23:25 <ghableska> hi wrtlprnft
23:26  * Lucifer_arma rubs his eyes and yawns
23:27 <ghableska> hello Lucifer_arma
23:27 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: what's your internal time of the day?
23:28 <wrtlprnft> you don't seem to be too attached to the sun time
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> morning?
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> it gets really bad in the winter.  :/
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> in 4-5 hours I can probably go to bed for another 12
23:28 <wrtlprnft> o_O
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> if I lived in Alaska, I'd probably have 1 or 2 days a year
23:29 <wrtlprnft> 2?
23:29 <wrtlprnft> how would you get that?
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> maybe 3.  :)  The point being that I'd hibernate all winter and be awake all summer
23:31 <wrtlprnft> take one big breakfast in spring, lunch in the middle of summer and supper in fall?
23:31 <wrtlprnft> not healthy.
23:31 <ghableska>  heh
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, I do kinda have practical reasons for wanting to live either in an island in the Caribbean, or on the moon
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23:49 <ghableska> hi mom
23:49 <Your_mom_arma> hi
23:50 <wrtlprnft> Your_mom_arma greet("hi") print
23:50 <wrtlprnft> err, too much io
23:51 <Vanhayes> hmm, How big would an island have to be for it to be considered a country?
23:51 <ghableska> why?
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23:52 <Vanhayes> my goal in life is to create my own country
23:52 <Your_mom_arma> haha
23:52 <luke-jr_work> what's a good computer name for a DMZ?
23:52 <DrJoeTron> does Your_mom_arma knowa bout scorch3d?
23:52 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
23:52 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: it has to big enough so you a) fit on it, b) can sustain yourself, c) won't get flooded away
23:53 <Vanhayes> I want it to be legit too, not just my calling an island my country
23:53 <DrJoeTron> lucifer wants to start playing a 3d version of scorched earth
23:53 <Your_mom_arma> link?
23:53 <Vanhayes> ah that would probly cost alot
23:53 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: echo "HOSTNAME='crackme'" > /etc/conf.d/hostname
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> all you have to do is declare your independence, establish a government, and get UN recognition
23:54  * Lucifer_arma notes the Vatican isn't very big, but is its own country
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> several cities, as well.  Monaco?
23:54 <DrJoeTron> http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/
23:54 <wrtlprnft> yep
23:54 <wrtlprnft> san marino
23:54 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: good idea
23:54 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/
23:55 <luke-jr_work> HOSTNAME="independence"
23:55 <Vanhayes> true, I think id have to find people willing to move to my island first, I doubt the UN would recognize me as a country if it was only me on the island
23:55 <Lucifer_arma> they wouldn't waste the time, but you could try to get the US to recognize you, although they might want basing rights
23:55 <wrtlprnft> you'd have to find your island first
23:55 <Your_mom_arma> i think i playedan atari version of that joe
23:56 <DrJoeTron> i played the dos versin
23:56 <DrJoeTron> and gunbound
23:56 <DrJoeTron> and worms
23:56 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't see it until Scorched3d :)
23:57 <Lucifer_arma> it's a pretty neat game, though.  Does take some work to get aimed and stuff
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> some of the shots are pretty tough, too.  I played as some gun that got stuck on the side of a steep hill and to hit my enemy I had to shoot over the hill
23:58 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if you shoot straight up, you hit yourself
23:59 <Your_mom_arma> you both have it already?
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah....  :)
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> we were gonna play it a couple of nights ago but it wasn't working on my machine, and spidey was having problems with it
23:59 <Vanhayes> so its worth the download?
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> but I fixed it last night, but joe was working on a paper
23:59 <DrJoeTron> im playing as bender :D
23:59 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's worth the download :)

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00:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's fun, and it's not a loooong game (like freeciv)
00:00 <Vanhayes> I think ive played games like it before
00:02 <DrJoeTron> haha they changed the wii strap
00:02 <Your_mom_arma> i saw haha
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> why's it funny?
00:04 <DrJoeTron> because the old ones were breaking and controllers were flying into tv's
00:04 <DrJoeTron> aw man
00:04 <DrJoeTron> i was excited about  firefly being an mmorpg
00:05 <DrJoeTron> too bad its gonna be sort of like star wars galaxies
00:05 <DrJoeTron> thanks guys.
00:05 <DrJoeTron> because THATS a great idea
00:05 <DrJoeTron> why dont they base it off of auto assault
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00:10 <Your_mom_arma> luci an example http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.nintendowiifanboy.com/media/2006/12/wiimote-skewer.jpg
00:10 <DrJoeTron> ah hah ah a
00:10 <DrJoeTron> oh hey Your_mom_arma seeker is a lobster
00:10 <DrJoeTron> and hang came back out of no where
00:11 <Your_mom_arma> how people lose their grip on it is beyond me
00:11 <Your_mom_arma> yeah?
00:11 <DrJoeTron> i can see it happening
00:11 <DrJoeTron> but jesus christ
00:11 <DrJoeTron> you dont need to thrash the thing around
00:12 <DrJoeTron> did you get one yet?
00:12 <DrJoeTron> i sure havent
00:12 <Your_mom_arma> next year they'll need new controllers anyway... Diagnosis shacken controller syndrom
00:12 <Compn> www.wiihaveaproblem.com is THE site for broken wii photos :)
00:13 <Your_mom_arma> i dont have one yet
00:14 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
00:15 <DrJoeTron> i got bored with final fantasy III
00:15 <DrJoeTron> very fast
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00:15 <DrJoeTron> so i went back to mario & luigi:partners in time, and i havent looked back
00:15 <DrJoeTron> i forgot that the game was actually pretty funny
00:16 <Compn> which one is that?
00:16 <Compn> for DS ?
00:16 <DrJoeTron> yeah
00:17 <Compn> is there a DS emulator yet? hehe
00:17 <DrJoeTron> dont know about a good working one
00:17 <DrJoeTron> but fortunately for that particular game
00:17 <DrJoeTron> it has no use for the touch screen
00:18 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt even work on the game
00:20 <DrJoeTron> 1 final left and its not till tuesday :D
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00:40 <Your_mom_arma> ok i think we could pull together a game now, just rushed through the tutorial
00:40 <DrJoeTron> im running out in a few min
00:40 <DrJoeTron> and i wont be gone long
00:40 <DrJoeTron> so after that
00:40 <DrJoeTron> i'd be down
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00:47 <DrJoeTron> brb
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01:12 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, it's fucking tankwars but 3-d
01:12 <spidey> you have to callibrate a perfect launch straight up
01:12 <spidey> over hills
01:14 <Vanhayes> hmm, anyone want to play?
01:15 <Your_mom_arma> i'll play if someone else hosts
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01:20 <Vanhayes> spidey: can you host it?
01:28  * Lucifer_arma just got off the phone
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> can you guys wait about 10 minutes while I grab a cigarette?
01:28 <DrJoeTron> im back
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> then I'll host, of course :)
01:29 <DrJoeTron> sweet deal
01:29 <DrJoeTron> ping me when we're gonna start
01:32 <spidey> well
01:32 <spidey> i'ma playing halo
01:32 <DrJoeTron> hey Your_mom_arma do you remember when americas army was "the game" to play? like 4 years ago?
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> right after the 9/11 attacks?
01:35 <DrJoeTron> yeah
01:35 <DrJoeTron> pretty much
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: Your_mom_arma (hi there!) DrJoeTron (hi there!) Vanhayes (hi there!) ping!
01:35 <DrJoeTron> ok
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> server's started, www.davefancella.com
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> who's playing, besides me and joe?
01:39 <DrJoeTron> :(
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> ?
01:43 <Your_mom_arma> pong
01:44 <spidey> pong
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> spidey, you going to join?
01:56 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, yes
02:00 <Vanhayes> spidey: are you administrator?
02:00 <spidey> yea
02:00 <Vanhayes> ah ok
02:01 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
02:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 18°F / -8°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of snow ending early this evening then clearing. Amount 2 cm. Wind north 40 km/h gusting to 70 becoming west 20 overnight except gusting to 40 along the fundy coast. Low minus 10.; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny (1 more message)
02:07 <Vanhayes> spidey?
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02:08 <ghableska> heh
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02:09 <spidey> dude
02:09 <spidey> it crashed my drivers
02:09 <Lucifer_arma> what happened?
02:09 <spidey> again
02:09 <Lucifer_arma> awwww
02:09 <spidey> but
02:09 <spidey> since i'm retarded
02:09 <spidey> i'm coming back
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02:27 <spidey_> ij
02:27 <spidey_> ok
02:27 <spidey_> fuck that game
02:29 <DrJoeTron> fuck your pc
02:31 <spidey_> fuck you
02:31 <spidey_> i'ma update my drivers, brb
02:31 <Vanhayes> spidey_: try windowed?
02:32 <spidey_> no
02:32 <spidey_> gimme a sec
02:32 <spidey_> my driver version => 6,14,19,4020  latest version => 14.10.3
02:32 <spidey_> so lemme try this update
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02:40 <spidey> there we go
02:45 <Vanhayes> spidey: ping
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02:48 <spidey> one last time
02:48 <spidey> then
02:48 <spidey> i'm usinstalling it
02:57 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ?
03:00 <Lucifer_arma> dinner and stuff
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03:18 <spidey_>  fuck it
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03:33 <ghableska> heh
03:38 <DrJoeTron> i'd like to keep playing that
03:39 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:39 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (7:54 PM CST on December 08, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa.
03:39 <spidey> http://youtube.com/watch?v=6RiG9lq84o8  <=== WTF!?!?!?
03:40 <ghableska> ...
03:40 <ghableska> what is that...thing?
03:40 <spidey> hell if i know
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03:49 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's a pretty neat game
03:49 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: you get scorched3d yet?
03:50 <ghableska> no, but I'll check it out :)
03:52 <ghableska> do you guys have a server up?
03:54 <Vanhayes> ghableska:  ya
03:54 <ghableska> what's it called?
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03:54 <Vanhayes> #last --with www
03:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: [02:12:07] <Lucifer_arma> awwww
03:54 <Vanhayes> #last --with www.
03:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: [01:39:56] <Lucifer_arma> server's started, www.davefancella.com
03:54 <ghableska> ok, thanks
03:54 <DrJoeTron> ghab is gonna play with us?
03:54 <DrJoeTron> :)
03:54 <ghableska> yep
03:54 <DrJoeTron> i'll be on later
03:54 <Lucifer_arma> I'll be back in a bit, I've got stuff to do right now
04:06 <ghableska> grr
04:15 <Your_mom_arma> no one wanted to play with me
04:17  * ghableska wonders why
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04:19 <Van-hayes> #last --with www.
04:19 <armabot> Van-hayes: [03:57:14] <Vanhayes> #last --with www.
04:19 <Van-hayes> #last --with www.d
04:19 <armabot> Van-hayes: [01:39:56] <Lucifer_arma> server's started, www.davefancella.com
04:25 <Van-hayes> Your_mom_arma: ghableska are you guys still playing?
04:25 <ghableska> nah
04:25 <Lucifer_arma> awww, no one's playing?
04:26  * ghableska sucked too much
04:29 <Compn> #armaservers
04:30 <armabot> Compn: ~"XzL.Clan The Server (12 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || The Lobster Cage (7 players) || MicroBusCity.com (7 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || Yeager rules, Physics sucks (5 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Multi* *Map* *Nano* *Fortress* (5 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (5 players) || (1 more message)
04:30 <Your_mom_arma> im up for some more, but everyone left
04:32 <Your_mom_arma> i understand why ghab left, i was killing him on the first turn
04:33 <ghableska> :)
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04:43 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, i'll play if you bribe my vid drivers not to crash
04:50 <spidey> actually
04:50 <spidey> i'm going sleep
04:50 <spidey> cya
04:51 <GodTodd> spidey sleeps?
04:51 <GodTodd> wow
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05:21 <Lucifer_arma> anybody else for some scorched3d?  :)
05:21 <Van-hayes> Your_mom_arma: DrJoeTron spidey ghableska want to play?
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
05:21 <Van-hayes> Lucifer_arma: is there a setting for weapons?
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> it's not a long game like freeciv is....
05:22 <GodTodd> gimme just a minute and i'd be up for a bit
05:22 <GodTodd> :)
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> sorta
05:22 <ghableska> Van-hayes: sure
05:23 <Van-hayes> ghableska: come to the server :)
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> there's a weapon level, no idea what it does
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> there's also a "give all weapons"
05:24 <Your_mom_arma> pong
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> play?
05:25 <Your_mom_arma> ok
05:25 <ghableska> ok
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05:52 <luke-jr> I might be up for civ tonight :p
05:52 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: you're at war in 1tpd, fyi
05:52 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: ready to take over? :p
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> no
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> ready for scorched3d?
05:57 <luke-jr> no plans
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> come on man, one more person and we can do a real team game
06:04 <luke-jr> but... it's ~arch masked!
06:15 <luke-jr> I'll install it if you play 1tpd :p
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06:43 <ghableska> hmm
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
06:44 <ghableska> #night
06:44 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> ok, server's restarting
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06:44 <luke-jr> ...
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> don't know what happened though
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> oh, I know what happened, I was disconnected for inactivity :)
06:45 <DrJoeTron> im gonna make my rounds on arma
06:45 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: 1tpd?
06:46 <DrJoeTron> ko
06:47 <Van-hayes> #ping
06:47 <armabot> pong
06:47 <DrJoeTron> anyone playing?
06:47 <Van-hayes> just about to
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> scorched3d?
06:47 <DrJoeTron> yeah
06:47 <luke-jr> I am if you play 1tpd :p
06:47 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma scorch3d?
06:48 <Your_mom_arma> nah, im done for the day cya guys
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06:48 <DrJoeTron> oh carp brb
06:50 <luke-jr> erm
06:50 <luke-jr> it's way too slow :(
06:56 <luke-jr> hrm
06:56 <luke-jr> how the heck are you supposed to aim?
06:56 <luke-jr> well, accurately
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> you're supposed to use the force
06:57 <luke-jr> wtf
06:57 <luke-jr> lol
06:57 <luke-jr> I killed myself
06:57 <luke-jr> and it said well done
06:58 <luke-jr> bah
06:58 <luke-jr> how do I play w/ you
06:58 <GodTodd> it must know you ;)
06:58 <Lucifer_arma> join my server, www.davefancella.com
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07:07  * GodTodd sniffs his armpits.
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> you coming back?
07:08 <GodTodd> no :P
07:08 <GodTodd> heh
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> luke?  you coming back?
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> er, he's not here
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: ?
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08:06 <luke-jr> hi guru3
08:06 <luke-jr> hm, two guru3_s
08:08 <Lucifer_arma> that apocolypse mod is cool
08:08 <GodTodd> yeah it is
08:09 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: I can't connect
08:09 <GodTodd> i'ma have to do some practicing tho
08:09 <luke-jr> spidey:
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:09 <luke-jr> wanna continue civ?
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, those rounds where people take you out on the first shot suck
08:10 <Van-hayes> heh
08:10 <Van-hayes> I love the dirt
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08:10 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, those rounds where I take someone out on the first shot rule
08:10 <Van-hayes> best is when you take them out with the weakest weapon in the first shot
08:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> isn't the first shot always with the weakest weapon so you can try to range and gauge the wind?
08:11 <Van-hayes> well it depends on what you really want to do
08:11 <Lucifer_arma> I screwed up that one round, I kept firing the wrong weapon, thought I was shooting sandhogs but I was shooting leapfrogs
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I saw you throwing up the wall of dirt to block someone close off
08:12 <Van-hayes> heh I did that to GodTodd a few times in that last game
08:12 <GodTodd> :P
08:12 <Lucifer_arma> anyways, had I shot sandhogs that one round, I should've taken you out a few shots earlier, couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong until next round
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08:14 <Lucifer_arma> fun game though, we'll have to play it some more :)
08:16 <Van-hayes> ya, I enjoy it, alot quicker than freeciv
08:18 <GodTodd> it's definitely a long way from scorched earth
08:18 <GodTodd> heh
08:48 <Van-hayes> #night
08:48 <armabot> Good night Van-hayes!
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10:23 <wrtlprnft> woha
10:23 <wrtlprnft> we had over 140 players friday night
10:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, 139 of them were a script I ran
10:37 <Lucifer_arma> just kidding :)
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10:44 <luke-jr> pwn
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10:50 <Lucifer_arma> did luke-jr (hi there!) just pwn us?
10:51  * luke-jr sure did
11:00 <DrJoeTron> herf derf
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11:14 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: heh, give me a script to connect to a master :)
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11:16 <wrtlprnft> s/a master/an arma server/
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12:36 <Lucifer_arma> Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity.
12:37 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz"
12:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
12:37 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz"
12:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.  Quote #37 added.
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13:55 <spidey> gay
13:55 <spidey> did yalll play civ last night?
13:56 <MaZuffeR> no
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> no, we play scorched3d
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> *played
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> #q
13:57 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
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13:58 <Lucifer_arma> #seen n54
13:58 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 25 weeks, 5 days, 10 hours, 8 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
14:01 <Lucifer_arma> #q
14:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #8: "master your own mind, otherwise the game will destroy you -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:27 PM, March 29, 2006)
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14:44 <spidey> #cnn 38256
14:44 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 19.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Wind: SSW at 2 mph (3 km/h).
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15:55 <spidey> #ping
15:55 <armabot> pong
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15:59  * wrtlprnft wonders what happened to/with n54
16:06 <wrtlprnft> #g 1.4^2
16:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1.4^2 = 1.96
16:22 <wrtlprnft> #g 1/1.4^2
16:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 / (1.4^2) = 0.510204082
16:22 <wrtlprnft> #g 1/1.4^2 * 4
16:22 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (1 / (1.4^2)) * 4 = 2.04081633
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16:30 <wrtlprnft> #g 1/.7^2
16:30 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 / (.7^2) = 2.04081633
16:31 <spidey> #weather 38256
16:31 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 30.0°F (9:32 AM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Rising).
16:32 <spidey> eh
16:32 <spidey> #cnn 38256
16:32 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 24.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 59%. Wind: S at 3 mph (5 km/h).
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18:49 <MaZuffeR> #lastseen sworntokill
18:50 <armabot> MaZuffeR: SwornTOKill has last been seen on Fortress Café 3 days 20 hours 56 minutes ago.
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18:55 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
18:55 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Aflac, LacrYmosa, pavelo, Pez, Rico, Sticky, ~ Super X ~
18:55 <ghableska> #armaservers
18:56 <armabot> ghableska: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Wild West - Wild Fortress (8 players) || Swampland *in 2.8* (7 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (7 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Multi* *Map* *Nano* *Fortress* (5 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (1 more message)
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19:08 <mkzelda> ahhh its warmed up today
19:08 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:08 <mkzelda> #cnn 27610
19:08 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 44.6°F (11:54 AM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa.
19:08 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Raleigh, NC is 42.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 24%. Wind: WSW at 6 mph (10 km/h).
19:08 <ghableska> hmm
19:09 <mkzelda> last night i emptied a cooler outside and the water froze while i was still standing there
19:10 <mkzelda> i've never seen that happen
19:10 <ghableska> how cold was it?
19:11 <mkzelda> 20 or so
19:11 <mkzelda> i dunno
19:11 <ghableska> 's not that cold
19:11 <mkzelda> ya
19:12 <mkzelda> it was funny cause my dogs couldnt figure out why they couldnt drink the water
19:13 <mkzelda> the water was broken
19:15 <ghableska> haha
19:18 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@a0204.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
19:25 <luke-jr> wtf does it mean if a CRT makes high-pitch noise?
19:28 <ghableska> luke-jr: does everything you own do that?
19:28 <luke-jr> ...
19:29 <Compn> luke-jr : its warming up, pour water on it
19:29 <Compn> hehe
19:31 <ghableska> "Luke-Jr:     what's it mean when a UPS makes an annoying constant high-pitch noise??"
19:31 <luke-jr> lol
19:31 <luke-jr> this is even higher
19:32 <ghableska> duck
19:42 <ghableska> grr
19:42 <ghableska> arma disappeared while I was playing
19:42 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: found it again?
19:42 <ghableska> I mean, it minimized itself and won't come back
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19:58 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
19:58 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska
19:59 <ghableska> how long were you guys playing last night?
20:00 <Vanhayes> hmm, not sure, quite a while
20:00 <ghableska> hehe
20:00 <ghableska> it's a fun game :)
20:00 <Vanhayes> such a fun game
20:00 <Vanhayes> heh
20:00 <ghableska> when you don't shoot straight up >_>
20:01 <Vanhayes> lol, that is pretty funny tho
20:01 <ghableska> heh
20:32 <ghableska> #weather 50265
20:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (12:54 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa.
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20:36 <Van-hayes> #serverdetails -v original
20:36 <armabot> Van-hayes: Original Fortress (old CVS style) (80.237.235.8:4534) running 0.3.0 unix dedicated, Description: “CVS test/bugfarm style fortress clone.“, Players (8/16): Agg, Ciccio, Eddie Hitler, King Gojinn, mdesvo, Waffen |SS|, Weird Solo, ZZ 109
20:42 <ghableska> #armaservers
20:42 <armabot> ghableska: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (11 players) || Original Fortress (old CVS style) (9 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Multi* *Map* *Nano* *Fortress* (7 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7 players) || ^}LC}< Legendary Rubber Clan Server > (6 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || (1 more message)
20:43 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig winzone
20:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sorry, no matches :S
20:43 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig win_zone
20:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: SP_WIN_ZONE_MIN_LAST_DEATH: Minimum number of seconds since the last death before the instant win zone is activated in single player mode (default: 1000000) || SP_WIN_ZONE_MIN_ROUND_TIME: Minimum number of seconds the round has to be going on before the instant win zone is activated in single player mode (default: 100000) || WIN_ZONE_EXPANSION: Expansion speed of the instant win zone (default: 1) || (2 more messages)
20:43 <wrtlprnft> #more
20:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: WIN_ZONE_INITIAL_SIZE: Initial size of the instant win zone (default: 5) || WIN_ZONE_MIN_LAST_DEATH: Minimum number of seconds since the last death before the instant win zone is activated (default: 30) || WIN_ZONE_MIN_ROUND_TIME: Minimum number of seconds the round has to be going on before the instant win zone is activated (default: 60) || WIN_ZONE_RANDOMNESS: Randomness factor of the initial win zone (1 more message)
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20:51 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
21:01 -!- Arma91 [n=Arma91@cpe-76-167-221-172.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
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21:02 -!- Arma91 is now known as Durka
21:03 <Durka> MaZuffeR: you here?
21:03 <MaZuffeR> yes
21:04 <Durka> where
21:04 <Durka> ;]
21:04 <Durka> ok so what have ur teammates said
21:04 <Durka> about the rematch
21:04 <Durka> i dont think we can set it up for 2maro
21:04 <Durka> thats a tight one
21:05 <Durka> how about next sunday at 9 or 10 pm gmt in zmans or wrtls
21:05 <MaZuffeR> i can't play next sunday
21:05 <Durka> even better ;]
21:05 <Durka> ok so when
21:06 <pavelo> lol
21:06 <MaZuffeR> i can't play after wednesday
21:06 <Durka> awww
21:06 <Durka> i can get 5 ppl for 2maro i think
21:07 <Durka> but i cant play
21:07 <Durka> so 4 maybe
21:07 <Durka> i could get 6 idk
21:07 <pavelo> tomorrow doesnt work for me as well
21:07 <MaZuffeR> eggcozy wasn't sure if he can play
21:08 <Durka> hmmmm
21:08 <Lucifer_arma> it's going to be very entertaining when we've finished beating around the config system if we wind up deciding our current config system satisfies the requirements and we need change nothing
21:08  * Durka Lucifer_arma
21:09  * Lucifer_arma goes to start his annoydurka.sh script
21:10 <Durka> lol
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> wow, I killed the channel
21:11 <Lucifer_arma> who woulda thunk it, but actually talking about developing arma kills the channel!
21:12  * Durka doenst see the script
21:12  * Lucifer_arma didn't really start it
21:12 <Lucifer_arma> besides, it's called annoyluke.sh
21:12 <Durka> lawl
21:14 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v cvs
21:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Original Fortress (old CVS style) (80.237.235.8:4534) running 0.3.0 unix dedicated, Description: “CVS test/bugfarm style fortress clone.“, Players (11/16): Agg, delarge, King Gojinn, Player 1, Suicidal Eddie, TERMIN A TORD, VALOO, Waffen |SS|, Weird Solo, ZZ 109, |HTF|Gergely
21:14 <ghableska> whose server is that?
21:14 <wrtlprnft> 0.3.0?
21:14 <wrtlprnft> dunno
21:14 <Durka> is it zmans?
21:14 <wrtlprnft> certainly not
21:15 <wrtlprnft> descr:          Michael Lechtermann
21:15 <wrtlprnft> descr:          Aeussere Kanalstrasse 215
21:15 <wrtlprnft> descr:          50827 Koeln
21:15 <wrtlprnft> hmm, cologne, but that's not manuel moos aka z-man
21:15 <z-man> err, no.
21:16 <Durka> whos server?
21:16 <wrtlprnft> host europe? is that handled by luke-jr?
21:16 <Durka> its not wrtls or lukes
21:16 <wrtlprnft> nvm then
21:16 <luke-jr> ?
21:16 <Durka> IP: 80.237.235.8
21:16 <wrtlprnft> is it yours now?
21:16 <Durka> runningn on port 4534
21:16 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v 2020
21:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “2020” at the moment, sorry.
21:16 <Durka> its not lukes
21:16 <wrtlprnft> umm
21:16 <Durka> look at the ip
21:16 <Durka> 80.237.235.8
21:16 <luke-jr> Durka: ...
21:17 <luke-jr> 87.230.6.125 is my hosteurope IP
21:17 <wrtlprnft> ah
21:17 <wrtlprnft> is it just 2020's server renamed then?
21:17 <luke-jr> no, it'd be 87.230.6.125
21:17 <Durka> ill check my logs for someone's ip like that
21:17 <wrtlprnft> hmm
21:17 <MaZuffeR> belenus' maybe, he's from koeln and hosted FEs server i think
21:17 <Durka> no belenus's old server lagged a ton
21:17 <Durka> this doesnt
21:18 <wrtlprnft> inetnum:        80.237.235.8 - 80.237.235.15
21:18 <wrtlprnft> he's got an entire 3-bit subnet
21:19 <luke-jr> lol
21:21 <Durka> im downloading my ladderlog...29 mb :[
21:21 <luke-jr> ow
21:21 <wrtlprnft> Durka: bz2 it?
21:21 <luke-jr> anyone want to buy a US server from me so I can try out some other server rentals?
21:21 <ghableska> No.
21:22 <Durka> no
21:22 <wrtlprnft> btw, looks like the lag issue on my servers fixed itself again
21:22 <wrtlprnft> seemed ok when the café had 17 players today
21:23 <Durka> no way
21:23 <Durka> i have 350 ping =/
21:23 <Durka> constatnly
21:23 <ghableska> haha
21:23 <ghableska> #armaservers
21:23 <armabot> ghableska: Norm's Place (10 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (9 players) || *Super* *Duck* *Multi* *Map* *Nano* *Fortress* (8 players) || MicroBusCity.com (7 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 (1 more message)
21:24 <ghableska> #serverdetails Styball
21:24 <wrtlprnft> lots of people under 100ms when i was there, and most under 200…
21:24 <armabot> ghableska: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (4/8): Angstronaut, GOLIATH, Killer_of_Kitty, |?- What?-?{
21:24 <wrtlprnft> even ota from the US had ~125ms
21:24 <Compn> durka, i've seen you ping bad on a lot of servers
21:24 <Compn> i blame you/your isp
21:25 <Durka> somethings weird here
21:25 <Durka> my isp =/
21:25 <MaZuffeR> Durka: so no match tomorrow?
21:25 <Durka> nope
21:25 <Durka> who is compn
21:25 <MaZuffeR> kamakazi
21:26 <Durka> o
21:26 <Durka> o i think i know why
21:26 <Durka> i was downloading my ladder log XD
21:26 <wrtlprnft> haha
21:27 <Vanhayes> wrtlprnft: ya that problem with only having a high ping in the servers hosted by that company you use is gone, I had around 130 ping today
21:27 <Vanhayes> which is 100 better than what it was a few days ago
21:27 <Durka> ya now its constantly 250
21:27 <wrtlprnft> and you're from Canada, so 100 is minimum anyways
21:27 <Durka> now 300 =/
21:28 <Vanhayes> ya, 130 is great in a europe server for me, 160-180 is average
21:28  * wrtlprnft had ~300 on BF when he was in winnipeg
21:29 <wrtlprnft> *~300ms
21:30 <Durka> no match for the ip of that fortress server from my logs
21:30 <wrtlprnft> it's a dedicated server box
21:30 <wrtlprnft> i'm certain it never ran an arma client
21:31 <wrtlprnft> hmm
21:31 <Durka> ya
21:31 <wrtlprnft> that guy is active in BSD mailing lists
21:31 <wrtlprnft> belenus?
21:32 <Durka> #lastseen belenus
21:32 <armabot> Durka: belenus has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 7 hours 1 minutes ago.
21:32 <wrtlprnft> ah, sec
21:32 <wrtlprnft> i could check who first played on the server :P
21:32 <Durka> ya
21:34 <Compn> belenus
21:34 <Compn> i kinda remember him on the servers
21:34 <ghableska> #lastseen wuttle
21:35 <Vanhayes> used to be Fe if i remember
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #help time
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (time [<format>] [<seconds since epoch>]) -- Returns the current time in <format> format, or, if <format> is not given, uses the configurable format for the current channel. If no <seconds since epoch> time is given, the current time is used.
21:35 <ghableska> fe, sl?
21:35 <Durka> wtf is up with ct servers wrtl
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #help U
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "u".
21:35 <wrtlprnft> Durka: ?
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #time U
21:35 <Vanhayes> I dont think he was around for SL
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: U
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #time +U
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: +U
21:35 <ghableska> oh
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #time %U
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 49
21:35 <wrtlprnft> grr
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #time %u
21:35 <ghableska> #time
21:35 <armabot> ghableska: 09:38 PM, December 09, 2006
21:35 <Durka> no he was van
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 6
21:35 <wrtlprnft> i want a unix timestamp x_X
21:35 <armabot> ghableska: timed out
21:36 <Durka> ok when they first started it was all good
21:36 <Durka> not much sliding and lag
21:36 <Durka> i got 180-200 ping
21:36 <Durka> its gotten so much worse
21:36 <Durka> a month ago i was constatnly getting 220-250
21:36 <Durka> now its 250-350
21:36 <Durka> i think the maps are too detailed
21:36 <Durka> it slows everything down
21:37 <Vanhayes> do maps affect pings? thought it was just fps
21:37 <wrtlprnft> well
21:37 <wrtlprnft> low framerate = more lag, in a way
21:37 <Compn> http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/excise.asp
21:37 <Compn> for any other usa people out there ;p
21:38 <wrtlprnft> #g 1165696623 - 24*3600
21:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1,165,696,623 - (24 * 3,600) = 1,165,610,223
21:38 <wrtlprnft> #g 1165696623 - 24*3600*10
21:38 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1,165,696,623 - (24 * 3,600 * 10) = 1,164,832,623
21:38 <wrtlprnft> w/o commas!
21:39 <wrtlprnft> yeah, belenus was the first guy to play on this server
21:39 <wrtlprnft> #help time
21:39 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (time [<format>] [<seconds since epoch>]) -- Returns the current time in <format> format, or, if <format> is not given, uses the configurable format for the current channel. If no <seconds since epoch> time is given, the current time is used.
21:40 <wrtlprnft> #time "%D %T" 1165664463
21:40 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 12/09/06 12:41:03
21:41 <wrtlprnft> apparenty not long ago
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21:43 <Durka> was that when belenus was last in there?
21:43 <Durka> so then check when the server first contacted the master list
21:43 <Vanhayes> uh, so why are you trying to track him down?
21:43 <wrtlprnft> what's the point?
21:44 <wrtlprnft> we now know that bel is hosting it, that's what i wanted
21:44 <Compn> lots of noobs in styball
21:44 <Durka> lol
21:44 <wrtlprnft> let's go show them how to play :D
21:44 <Compn> i'm dere
21:45 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails styball
21:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (7/8): ?, Burt Bacarach, Kamakazi, Killer_of_Kitty, sophie, The Truth, |?- What?-?{
21:45 <Vanhayes> hmm
21:45 <Compn> it full?
21:45 <Compn> we trying to kick one of the noobs
21:45 <Compn> :)
21:45 <Durka> #serverdetails thekowsklan
21:45 <armabot> Durka: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “thekowsklan” at the moment, sorry.
21:46 <Durka> #serverdetails *super
21:46 <armabot> Durka: *Super* *Duck* *Multi* *Map* *Nano* *Fortress*: Players (7/10): .dBd|Nanotek, /CWB\ BALLIN, longball lasch, trAth, [The~Chosen~One, |!STELL!|, ~*SP*~ ØLÊfÀ	Cr
21:46 <Durka> lol ~*SP*~ ØLÊfÀCr = ~*SP*~ Omega
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21:48 <Vanhayes> #insult spidey
21:48 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but a rude-snouted puddle of tepid seagull.
21:49 <Durka> #quote get 35
21:49 <armabot> Durka: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
21:49 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@p509239E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
21:49 <spidey> #quote get 17
21:49 <Durka> #quote get 36
21:49 <armabot> spidey: Quote #17: "And I hate dying nearly as much as I hate Vanhayes. --featherfcuk" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:02 AM, June 14, 2006)
21:49 <armabot> Durka: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
21:50 <spidey> #quote get 18
21:50 <armabot> spidey: Quote #18: "so you can't send a note to spidey or other noobs. -wrtlprnft" (added by Vanhayes at 05:23 AM, June 21, 2006)
21:50 <spidey> #quote get 16
21:50 <armabot> spidey: Quote #16: "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian Kernighan" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 11:21 PM, May 03, 2006)
21:51 <spidey> #quote get 19
21:51 <armabot> spidey: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
21:51 <spidey> heh
21:51 <spidey> #quote get 25
21:52 <armabot> spidey: Error: There is no Quote with id #25 in my database for #armagetron.
21:52 <spidey> #quote get 26
21:52 <armabot> spidey: Quote #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I can wipe my ass with luke-jr_'s face" (added by spidey at 05:44 AM, October 25, 2006)
21:52 <spidey> haha i still like that one
21:53 <Durka> lol
21:53 <spidey> #quote get 27
21:53 <armabot> spidey: Quote #27: "thats like asking if vegetarians can eat animal crackers -- DrJoeTron" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:12 AM, October 26, 2006)
21:53 <spidey> how many quotes are there now? o.O
21:53 <spidey> #quote get 28
21:53 <armabot> spidey: Quote #28: "i can't speel either --Fonkay" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:38 AM, October 28, 2006)
21:54 <Durka> #quote get 1
21:54 <armabot> Durka: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
21:54 <Durka> #quote get 2
21:54 <armabot> Durka: Quote #2: "God gave me fingers and a clitoris, I mean, it's pretty obvious. --Lola Garcia" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:07 AM, March 24, 2006)
21:54 <spidey> #quote get 29
21:54 <armabot> spidey: Quote #29: "It was like playing a game with a ping of 3000. -- John Carmack, Founder, Armadillo Aerospace" (added by GodTodd at 05:34 AM, October 29, 2006)
21:55 <spidey> heh
21:55 <spidey> #quote get 20
21:55 <armabot> spidey: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
21:55 <spidey> #quote get 30
21:55 <armabot> spidey: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
21:55 <spidey> #quote get 31
21:55 <armabot> spidey: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
21:56 <spidey> would have been better if armabot said "i r stupid?"
21:56 <spidey> :p
21:56 <Vanhayes> #eliza you r stupid
21:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say me r stupid?
21:57 <ghableska> #eliza u r stupid
21:57 <armabot> ghableska: Why do you say u r stupid?
21:57 <spidey> haha
21:57 <ghableska> ..
21:57 <Durka> #eliza i r stupid
21:57 <armabot> Durka: Why do you say you r stupid?
21:57 <Vanhayes> my favorite is still:
21:57 <Vanhayes> #eliza Bitch
21:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Can you elaborate on that?
21:57 <Vanhayes> #eliza You are a Bitch
21:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: Please, watch your tongue!
21:57 <Durka> #eliza fuck me
21:57 <armabot> Durka: Are you afraid of sex?
21:57 <Vanhayes> ha
21:57 <ghableska> :P
21:58 <Durka> lol
21:58 <Durka> #eliza fuck you bitch
21:58 <armabot> Durka: Are you afraid of sex?
21:58 <Durka> =/
21:58 <Vanhayes> #eliza I love you
21:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: Please, describe your relationship with me.
21:58 <spidey> o.o
21:58 <Durka> #eliza i wanna fuck u
21:58 <armabot> Durka: Why do you say you might want to fuck u?
21:58 <Durka> lol
21:58 <Vanhayes> wo, who said might?
21:58 <Durka> #eliza i wanna fuck armabot
21:58 <armabot> Durka: Why do you say you might want to fuck armabot?
21:59 <Durka> #eliza i wanna fuck #eliza
21:59 <armabot> Durka: Fuck what? || Why do you say you might want to?
21:59 <spidey> what?
21:59 <Durka> ?
21:59 <Durka> lol
21:59 <spidey> #eliza #eliza #eliza
21:59 <armabot> spidey: Can you elaborate on that?
21:59 <spidey> #eliza what's #eliza
21:59 <armabot> spidey: Why do you say what 's?
22:00 <spidey> Durka: Fuck what? || Why do you say you might want to?
22:00 <spidey> it did two of them
22:00 <Durka> lol
22:00 <Vanhayes> #ekiza #eliza Why do you make no sense. answer me that #eliza
22:00 <Vanhayes> #eliza #eliza Why do you make no sense. answer me that #eliza
22:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: Can you elaborate on that?
22:00 <Vanhayes> #eliza NO
22:00 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why not?
22:01 <Vanhayes> #eliza i wanna fuck #eliza
22:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fuck what? || Why do you say you might want to?
22:01 <Durka> #eliza abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
22:01 <armabot> Durka: Can you elaborate on that?
22:01 <Vanhayes> #eliza i wanna blah #eliza
22:01 <armabot> Vanhayes: Why do you say you might want to blah?
22:01 <Vanhayes> hmm
22:01 <Vanhayes> anyways
22:02 <Vanhayes> spidey: Lucifer_arma GodTodd DrJoeTron ghableska , anyone else who plays, want to play a game of scorched3d?
22:03 <luke-jr> scorched3d sux
22:03 <luke-jr> it froze my PC :p
22:03 <Vanhayes> you pc sucks
22:03 <spidey> yea
22:03 <Vanhayes> your*
22:03 <spidey> and it crashes my vid drivers
22:03 <Vanhayes> ya thats happened to me before
22:03 <luke-jr> Vanhayes: spidey says it's the game :p
22:04 <luke-jr> #eliza [eliza]
22:04 <armabot> luke-jr: Can you elaborate on that?
22:04 <luke-jr> heh
22:04 <luke-jr> #eliza [eliza [eliza]]
22:04 <armabot> luke-jr: Can you elaborate on that?
22:04 <Vanhayes> still its only happened once to me and its fun so i can live with it
22:04 <spidey> maybe
22:04 <spidey> but i hate rebooting
22:04 <spidey> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
22:04 <spidey> i know
22:05 <spidey> i'll run it in vmware
22:05 <spidey> then it can pwn the virtual machine all it wants
22:05 <luke-jr> "once"
22:05 <spidey> cause i won't have to reboot
22:05 <luke-jr> spidey: VM won't do 3D
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22:05 <spidey> sure it will
22:05 <spidey> it did tron
22:05 <luke-jr> TRON can work w/o 3D hardware
22:05 <spidey> heh
22:05 <spidey> well i can always try
22:06 <spidey> not like it'll hurt anything
22:06 <luke-jr> yeah
22:06  * luke-jr watches it crash the main PC even in VMWare :p
22:06 <spidey> oh hell no
22:06 <spidey> i'm not trying
22:06 <spidey> :/
22:06 <luke-jr> lol
22:06 <spidey> actually i am
22:06 <spidey> i need a excuse to install vmware
22:06 <luke-jr> vmware sux
22:06 <luke-jr> :p
22:07 <spidey> so do you, but do we complain? :D
22:07 <Vanhayes> yes, yes we do
22:07 <spidey> good point
22:08 <spidey> well this sucks
22:08 <spidey> i have about 20gigs free
22:08 <spidey> total
22:08 <spidey> out of 123gigs
22:09 <ghableska> ...
22:09 <spidey> ..
22:09 <ghableska> .
22:09 <Vanhayes> ..
22:09 <spidey> ...
22:09 <Vanhayes> so, anyone want to play?
22:10 <ghableska> maybe in around 30 minutes
22:10 <spidey> hmm
22:10 <spidey> gimme 30 minutes to
22:10 <Vanhayes> o
22:10 <spidey> it'll take me that long to install windows
22:10 <spidey> heh
22:10 <Vanhayes> ok*
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22:14 <spidey> hmm
22:14 <spidey> i'ma rob windows of resources
22:14 <spidey> :D
22:15 <Durka> play what...
22:15 <spidey> nothing
22:15 <ghableska> #roulette
22:15 <armabot> ghableska: *click*
22:15 <spidey> it doesn't have instant chats, or text-color support
22:17 <ghableska> Vanhayes: make that 40 minutes :P
22:18 <spidey> Vanhayes, make that 40 minutes
22:18 <Vanhayes> ok
22:18 <Vanhayes> spidey: copier
22:18 <ghableska> haha
22:18 <spidey> Vanhayes, copier
22:18 <ghableska> spidey
22:18 <spidey> spidey
22:19 <Durka> spidey
22:19 <spidey> WTF DO YOU PEOPLE WANT!?
22:19 <DrJoeTron> i'll play schorch3d later tonight
22:19 <Durka> WTF DO YOU PEOPLE WANT!?
22:19 <spidey> die
22:19  * Durka gives up
22:20  * spidey gives Durka up
22:20 <spidey> for adoption
22:20 <spidey> brb
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22:22 <Durka> *** spidey has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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22:23 <Durka> *** spidey has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection
22:23 <spidey> no shit?
22:25 <Durka> *** spidey has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection
22:25 <Durka> brb
22:25 <spidey> ..
22:25 <Durka> *** Durka has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:26 <spidey> ..
22:27 -!- spidey is now known as luke-jr_
22:27 <luke-jr_> baka
22:27 -!- luke-jr_ is now known as spidey
22:30 <Compn> #serverinfo cafe
22:31 <armabot> Compn: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): Kamakazi, wrtlprnft |mbc|, |AST| }{Alex}{
22:31 <spidey> fuck the cannot format this drive error
22:31 <spidey> i'll just delete everything :D
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22:45 <Durka> #hello
22:46 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Police up your spare rounds and frags. Don't leave nothin' for the dinks. || - Willem Dafoe in "Platoon"
22:46 <Durka> #insult spidey
22:46 <armabot> spidey - You are nothing but an impure assload of jarring gizzards.
22:46 <spidey> noob
22:46 <Durka> #insult noob
22:46 <armabot> noob - You are nothing but a coughed-up bucket of onion-eyed user.
22:46 <Durka> #insult armabot
22:46 <armabot> armabot - You are nothing but an ill-borne thimbleful of spur-galled cat.
22:46 <spidey> takes a real noob to need a bot to insult someone
22:47 <Durka> roflamo
22:47  * Durka loves spidey (not in a homo way)
22:47 <spidey> fag
22:48 <spidey> i should pretend i didn't see (not in a homo way) and add the rest to armabot quote
22:48 <spidey> :D
22:52 <Vanhayes> thats called lying
22:52 <Vanhayes> or slander, maybe
22:53 <spidey> how do you know it's a lie?
22:53 <spidey> besides  the fact i just said i would
22:53 <GodTodd> nah...written is libel....and that wouldn't be libel because he *did* type it
22:53 <Vanhayes> mis quoting then
22:53 <GodTodd> yeah...but that's not a crime ;)
22:54 <spidey> lol
22:54 <spidey> so like
22:54 <spidey> will we ever play trackmania again?
22:54 <spidey> or can i delete this tmndedicated server i backed up?
22:55 <Vanhayes> well I got bored of it pretty quick
22:55 <spidey> heh
22:55 <spidey> bored of it?
22:55 <spidey> or the tracks?
22:55 <spidey> joe mom and me made some good tracks
22:56 <spidey> hells it was full alot
22:56 <Vanhayes> if they add long colourful tails to the ends of the cars I might play again
22:56  * GodTodd really isn't into racing games....got burnt out with pole position
22:56 <spidey> lol
22:56 <spidey> that's kinda like me and halo
22:56 <spidey> except i was raping everyone in the server
22:56 <GodTodd> fag
22:57 <spidey> halo gets boring because the weapons don't have recoil
22:57 <spidey> so it's like
22:57 <spidey> "if i can keep this indicator on him i'll win"
22:57 <spidey> i like the other fps cause you can't just aim and continually fire, you have to actually try o.O
22:58 <spidey> now
22:58 <spidey> #time
22:58 <armabot> spidey: 11:01 PM, December 09, 2006
22:58 <spidey> ok
22:58 <spidey> so lets see how long windows takes to install in vmware :)
22:59 <Vanhayes> bbiab
22:59 <GodTodd> w00t...gots me a A in c++
22:59 <ghableska> Vanhayes: ready
23:00 <spidey> stfu u
23:00 <GodTodd> suck my dick
23:00 <GodTodd> :)
23:00 <ghableska> -_-
23:00 <spidey> since when did females have a dick?
23:00 <ghableska> hahah
23:01 <GodTodd> didn't know they did....why, did you grow one?
23:01 <spidey> heh
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23:01 <spidey> you must be refering to luke-jr
23:03 <GodTodd> no...i didn't say the word "moron" at all
23:04 <spidey> good point
23:04 <spidey> anyways, why aren't you at work....you know hookers have to work to keep there turf
23:05 <GodTodd> nope, i didn't...you get into many 'turf wars'?
23:05 <mkzelda> do I come to your job and slap the dick out of your mouth?
23:05 <spidey> ..
23:06 <mkzelda> .
23:06 <spidey> ..
23:06 <mkzelda> ...
23:06 <GodTodd> .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................
23:06 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:06 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 50.0°F (3:54 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa.
23:06 -!- spidey is now known as luke-jr_
23:06 <luke-jr_> GodTodd, baka
23:06 <mkzelda> nice
23:06 -!- luke-jr_ is now known as spidey
23:06 <wrtlprnft> ·
23:07 <ghableska> O_o
23:07 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
23:07 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 52.0°F (4:07 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 19%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa.
23:07 <mkzelda> #weather 27601
23:07 <spidey> #weather 38256
23:07 <wrtlprnft> go ghostkick each other!
23:07 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Yates Mill Pond, Raleigh, North Carolina is 39.6°F (5:07 PM EST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa.
23:07 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 48.0°F (4:07 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029.0 hPa.
23:07 <spidey> #time
23:07 <armabot> spidey: 11:10 PM, December 09, 2006
23:07 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
23:07 <GodTodd> bunch of fucking weather geeks
23:07 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Lizard Lick / Glory Rd NC, Wendell, North Carolina is 38.5°F (5:05 PM EST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa.
23:07 <GodTodd> heh
23:07 <spidey> 9 minutes
23:07 <spidey> and i'm halfway through with the install
23:08 <mkzelda> weird it comes up with different names for the location
23:08 <ghableska> no.
23:08 <mkzelda> it did not at all say lizard lick / glory rd last few times ive done that
23:08 <mkzelda> or wendell
23:08 <wrtlprnft> who cares about the weather anyways?
23:08 <mkzelda> it said raleigh
23:08 <GodTodd> how the fuck does a place get a name like lizard lick?
23:08 <GodTodd> wait...i don't wanna know
23:08 <mkzelda> ya, i dont even know where that is
23:08 <mkzelda> and thats my zip
23:08 <ghableska> because of the kind of people that live there
23:08 <mkzelda> its not wendell
23:08 <ghableska> #cnn 27545
23:09 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Raleigh, NC is 47.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 23%. Wind: SW at 10 mph (16 km/h).
23:09 <mkzelda> its also not raleigh, like it normally says
23:09 <spidey> #cnn 38256
23:09 <wrtlprnft> #cnn r2c 4m1
23:09 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 46.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Sunny. Humidity: 19%. Wind: W at 7 mph (11 km/h).
23:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: No such location could be found.
23:09 <mkzelda> and is it 47 or 38.5
23:09 <wrtlprnft> #cnn r2c4m1
23:09 <mkzelda> heh
23:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: No such location could be found.
23:09 <ghableska> lol wrtlprnft
23:09 <wrtlprnft> #cnn winnipeg, mb
23:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: No such location could be found.
23:09 <wrtlprnft> #cnn winnipeg, manitoba, canada
23:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: No such location could be found.
23:09 <wrtlprnft> #cnn winnipeg, canada
23:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: No such location could be found.
23:09 <wrtlprnft> stupid!
23:09 <ghableska> #weather Winnipeg
23:09 <wrtlprnft> #cnn winnipeg, manitoba
23:09 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Winnipeg, Manitoba is 28.4°F (4:00 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa.
23:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The current temperature in Winnipeg, Manitoba is 30.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Wind: W at 4 mph (6 km/h).
23:09 <mkzelda> why does #weather say something 9 degrees different than #cnn
23:09 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:09 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 50.0°F (3:54 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa.
23:09 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
23:10 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 51.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 36%. Wind: S at 13 mph (21 km/h).
23:10 <GodTodd> different weather stations
23:10  * wrtlprnft can't use °F
23:10 <mkzelda> weather channel says 41
23:10 <ghableska> grr, mine is never updated
23:10 <mkzelda> #weather 33901
23:10 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Fort Myers, Florida is 69.8°F (4:53 PM EST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025 hPa.
23:11 <mkzelda> :/, that'd be nice
23:11 <GodTodd> #weather mesa AZ
23:11 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Western Mesa, AZ, Mesa, Arizona is 71.8°F (3:10 PM MST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa.
23:11 <ghableska> #weather Ulaanbaatar
23:11 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia is -9.4°F (6:00 AM ULAT on December 10, 2006). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -14.8°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa.
23:11 <ghableska> heh
23:11 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
23:11 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Holloman AFB, New Mexico is 50.0°F (2:55 PM MST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 50.0°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa.
23:12 <mkzelda> that was a terrible movie
23:12 <spidey> #cnn GodTodds' secret gay place
23:12 <ghableska> ?
23:12 <armabot> spidey: Error: No such location could be found.
23:12 <GodTodd> what was?
23:12 <mkzelda> HollowMan
23:12 <ghableska> spidey: it's hidden
23:12 <GodTodd> heh
23:12 <spidey> indeed
23:12 <ghableska> that's why it's secret
23:12 <mkzelda> theres that part where he's invisible so the fire doesn't see him
23:12 <spidey> ahh
23:12 <GodTodd> nah...it's right next to big gay al's place
23:13 <GodTodd> have to have someplace for spidey to hang out, you know
23:13 <spidey> GodTodd, leave luke-jr out of this
23:13 <GodTodd> again...not once did i say anything about a moron
23:14 <spidey> hm
23:14 <spidey> anyways
23:14 <spidey> #time
23:14 <armabot> spidey: 11:17 PM, December 09, 2006
23:14 <spidey> if this isntall finishes in 4 minutes
23:14 <GodTodd> 16 min in years
23:14 <spidey> it'll have taken me 20 minutes to install windows
23:14 <spidey> in a virtual machine
23:14 <GodTodd> oops
23:14 <GodTodd> heh
23:14 <GodTodd> #g 16 min in years
23:15 <armabot> GodTodd: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:15 <GodTodd> fucker
23:15 <GodTodd> #g 16 minutes in years
23:15 <armabot> GodTodd: 16 minutes = 3.04212141 * 10^(-5) years
23:15 <spidey> #g 1 day in years
23:15 <armabot> spidey: 1 day = 0.00273790926 years
23:15 <spidey> #g 3.04212141 * 10^(-5) years
23:15 <armabot> spidey: 3.04212141 * (10^(-5)) * years = 16 minutes
23:15 <GodTodd> #g .00273790926 *365.25
23:15 <armabot> GodTodd: .00273790926 * 365.25 = 1.00002136
23:15 <spidey> heh
23:16 <spidey> #time
23:16 <armabot> spidey: 11:18 PM, December 09, 2006
23:16 <spidey> woot
23:16 <spidey> i installed windows in
23:16 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 kg/s/C
23:16 <spidey> 17 minutes
23:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:16 <spidey> in a virtual machine
23:16 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 kg/second/Coulomb
23:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:16 <spidey> i'ma see if linux can beat that time
23:16 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 kg/second/Coulomb * 1
23:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 ((kg / second) / coulomb) * 1 = 1 tesla
23:16 <wrtlprnft> there we go
23:16 <wrtlprnft> stupid thing
23:16 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 kg/s/C * 1
23:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 ((kg / s) / C) * 1 = 1 tesla
23:16 <wrtlprnft> ah, that would have been sufficient as well
23:16 <mkzelda> spidey: xp?
23:17 <spidey> mkzelda, yes
23:17 <GodTodd> thought spidey would be a vista boy
23:17 <spidey> ...
23:17 <GodTodd> lick some bill gates balls
23:18 <spidey> if i use vista it won't be a legal version
23:18 <mkzelda> im putting gentoo on my ultrasparc :o)
23:18 <spidey> only reason i got a legal version of winxp is because it came with my pc when i bought it
23:18 <GodTodd> i take great pride in having never bought a version of windows other than preinstalled crap
23:19 <mkzelda> i've only aquired pre-installed crap from other ppl's computers when they ditch'em
23:19 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: why would you ever buy a version of windows? if you buy a computer you get windows, and if a new version of it comes out your old box won'd be capable of running it anyways
23:20 <wrtlprnft> *buy a license
23:20 <spidey> wow
23:20 <GodTodd> what chaps my hide is that i'll probably have to have at least one box running Vomita just so that i can be competent on the shit
23:20 <spidey> my vm is already fragmented
23:20 <GodTodd> wrtlprnft: when i get a new computer (other than this laptop) it comes with nothing on it :P
23:21 <wrtlprnft> but then you don't want windows anyways
23:21 <ghableska> O_O
23:21 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6161691.stm
23:21 <mkzelda> btw, if you want a better xp, snag "2 Fast XP SE" or some other modified ISOs that strip out all the bullshit, disable BS services, and slipstream all the windows updates
23:21 <spidey> wrtlprnft, that's so not true
23:21 <GodTodd> well...i haven't taken the time to set up any linux boxes yet :/
23:21 <spidey> i got a box built in '98 that came with win98
23:21 <spidey> guess what
23:21 <spidey> it's running winxp
23:21 <spidey> just fine
23:21 <spidey> 375mhz p2 and 64mb ram
23:22 <mkzelda> ya ive got it on a 233mhz laptop
23:22 <mkzelda> 128mb ram
23:22 <GodTodd> yeah...i had a 300 running xp pro
23:22 <GodTodd> it even dual booted xp and redhat
23:22 <GodTodd> still is
23:22 <GodTodd> it's at the inlaws
23:22 <wrtlprnft> must be fun to do anything with that
23:22 <spidey> ??
23:22 <spidey> it runs fine
23:22 <spidey> i rdp it all the time
23:23 <spidey> if i had my router hooked up i'd let you rdp it and see
23:23 <spidey> :p
23:23 <mkzelda> its fine as long as you're not trying to game on it
23:23 <spidey> who would game on a 300 anyways?
23:23 <mkzelda> Exactly
23:23 <GodTodd> yeah the laptop dual booting is just for guest internet access
23:23 <mkzelda> although i used to play the original Unreal on my 233mhz and it ran GREAT
23:23 <mkzelda> i had a 12mb voodoo2
23:24 <mkzelda> glide was sweet
23:24 <spidey> lol
23:24 <wrtlprnft> > "It's not size, it's what you do with it that matters," he said.
23:24 <wrtlprnft> LOL
23:24 <ghableska> xX
23:24 <mkzelda> no doubt
23:25 <GodTodd> except when you have a small dick...then your OS has to keep taking more resources with each release
23:25 <ghableska> lol
23:25 <GodTodd> bill gates actually has a huge dick
23:25 <GodTodd> too bad it's up his ass
23:25 <spidey> ...
23:26 <ghableska> how do you know this?
23:26 <GodTodd> internet
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23:27 <mkzelda> If you have a pencil dick you can put it in the clit
23:27 <mkzelda> according to spidey
23:27 <GodTodd> put it *in* the clit
23:27 <GodTodd> hmmm
23:27 <spidey> ....
23:27 <mkzelda> haha
23:27 <GodTodd> wouldn't that involve an incision or something?
23:28 <mkzelda> i dunno, are pencil dicks sharp enough?
23:28 <mkzelda> spidey?
23:28 <mkzelda> :D
23:28 <GodTodd> needle dicks might be
23:29 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma is going to spend next semester poking guys with something long and thin
23:29 <GodTodd> ask him
23:30 <ghableska> -_-
23:30 <spidey> i love how i get faster downloads in the vm
23:31 <spidey> i'm getting 430kb/s+
23:31 <spidey> i shouldn't get over 380kb/s
23:31 <GodTodd> it's probably reporting it wrong
23:31 <GodTodd> heh
23:34 <mkzelda> it'll be funny when the channel stats uses exerpts of this convo
23:35 <ghableska> haha
23:41 <spidey> luke-jr,it;s rybbubg scircged
23:41 <spidey> wiw
23:41 <spidey> WOW
23:42 <spidey> goddamn it
23:42 <spidey> luke-jr, it's running scortched
23:42 <spidey> ghableska, ping
23:42 <spidey> ping ping ping
23:43 <spidey> ghableska, Vanhayes ?
23:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v spidey] by ChanServ
23:46 <+spidey> ...
23:46 <GodTodd> spidey> luke-jr,it;s rybbubg scircged
23:46 <luke-jr> wtf
23:46 <luke-jr> stfu
23:47 <+spidey> it's called
23:47 <+spidey> not looking at the keyboard
23:47 <GodTodd> spidey> luke-jr,it;s rybbubg scircged
23:47 <+spidey> and starting off with the wrong key
23:47 <+spidey> luke-jr, vmware runs 3-d apps :)
23:47 <GodTodd> does not
23:47 <+spidey> does so
23:47 <GodTodd> luke says it doesn't so that's the truth
23:47 <+spidey> want a fuckin screenshot?
23:48 <luke-jr> lol
23:48 <wrtlprnft> well, you can always have software rendering
23:48 <wrtlprnft> though i read something about vmware supporting opengl or sometrhing
23:48 <GodTodd> luke says it doesn't so that's the truth
23:49 <+spidey> i just need
23:49 <+spidey> someone to try to join my server, so i can see how it actually runs
23:49 <+spidey> ghableska, Vanhayes ping
23:50 <GodTodd> spidey> luke-jr,it;s rybbubg scircged
23:50 <+spidey> /ignore GodTodd
23:50 <ghableska> spidey
23:50 <+spidey> ghableska, try to join 68.119.125.251
23:50 <+spidey> on scortched
23:50 <ghableska> ok
23:50 <wrtlprnft> 23:41 <spidey> luke-jr,it;s rybbubg scircged
23:51 <ghableska> O_o
23:51 <ghableska> connection failed :P
23:51 <+spidey> hmm
23:51 <+spidey> i'll have to run it outside the vm
23:51 <+spidey> sec
23:52 <+spidey> ok
23:52 <+spidey> try now
23:52 <ghableska> no
23:53 <ghableska> :P
23:54 <+spidey> ...
23:54 <ghableska> I have to do my...homework first
23:54 <+spidey> ;/
23:55 <ghableska> :D
23:55 <ghableska> it works, btw
23:55 <+spidey> i saw
23:57 <+spidey> ...
23:57 <+spidey> ghableska, does it keep loading the map
23:57 <+spidey> over and over?
23:57 <+spidey> oh
23:58 <+spidey> you left, that's why
23:58 <+spidey> where's hayes o.O
23:59 <+spidey> ok
23:59 <+spidey> well halo time
23:59 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:59 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!

Log from 2006-12-10:
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00:02 -!- pavelo [n=pavelo@unimatrix0.ubyt.sdjls.uniba.sk] has quit []
00:03 <GodTodd> spidey> luke-jr,it;s rybbubg scircged
00:03 <ghableska> spidey: are you trying to talk like bush?
00:03 <Vanhayes> spidey: PONG
00:03 <ghableska> lol
00:04 <Vanhayes> spidey: did you pay for halo?
00:04 <ghableska> knowing him, no.
00:04 <Vanhayes> ya, probly not
00:05 <ghableska> probably got it off a torrent or something? :P
00:05 <DrJoeTron> what
00:05 <DrJoeTron> who shot who in the what now?
00:05 <ghableska> no
00:06 <luke-jr> spidey shot DrJoeTron in the thy
00:06 <DrJoeTron> ass hole
00:06 <Vanhayes> thigh?
00:06 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
00:07 <ghableska> spidey tried to shoot DrJoeTron but was holding the gun backwards
00:07 <Vanhayes> thats believable
00:07 <ghableska> "Hey, what's this hole here?" *BOOM*
00:07 <DrJoeTron> is spidey silenced or something?
00:08 <GodTodd> spidey shot luke in the eye...without a gun
00:08 <ghableska> haha
00:08 <Vanhayes> eww
00:08 <ghableska> spidey is playing halo
00:08 <DrJoeTron> eww
00:08 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
00:08 <DrJoeTron> thats a kickable offense
00:08 <@luke-jr> is it?
00:08 <ghableska> luke-jr: ...
00:08 <@luke-jr> lol
00:08 <DrJoeTron> it aught to be :)
00:09 <DrJoeTron> give me operator priveledges
00:09 <@luke-jr> hmm
00:09 <@luke-jr> I think I'll let him off with a warning :p
00:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-oo luke-jr MaZuffeR] by luke-jr
00:09 <ghableska> o.0
00:11 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
00:11 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o ghableska] by luke-jr
00:11 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
00:12 <DrJoeTron> who is this kvarchil character
00:12 <luke-jr> ask armabot
00:12 <luke-jr> #cybord kvarchil
00:13 <kvarchil> whaa?
00:13 <luke-jr> #cyborg kvarchil
00:13 <armabot> luke-jr: K.V.A.R.C.H.I.L.: Kinetic Versatile Android Responsible for Calculation, Harm and Immediate Learning
00:13 <luke-jr> oooh immediate learning
00:13 <luke-jr> I still say it's the KDE variable for chili
00:13 <luke-jr> :p
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00:20  * mkzelda just laughed so hard rode his lollerskates to his roflcopter and flew to see lmao tse tung
00:23 -!- Arma17 [n=Arma17@cpe-76-167-221-172.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
00:23 -!- Arma17 is now known as Durka
00:23 <Durka> #hello
00:23 <Durka> #insult armabot
00:23 <armabot> armabot - You are nothing but a left-over coagulation of unmuzzled entrails.
00:23 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Q: How do you shoot a blue elephant? || A: With a blue-elephant gun. || Q: How do you shoot a pink elephant? || A: Twist its trunk until it turns blue, then shoot it with || a blue-elephant gun.
00:24 <mkzelda> thats good to know
00:24 <Durka> lol hi dook
00:24 <mkzelda> hi
00:24 <Durka> register on our site if you want - http://tui.owns.it
00:24 <mkzelda> haha i knew that was coming
00:25 <Durka> :)
00:25 <mkzelda> im not a forum kind of person
00:25 <Durka> k :)
00:25 <Durka> it don't matter
00:25 <mkzelda> i'll do it, but just be aware i wont use it
00:26 <mkzelda> theres about 10 forums i would be inclined to post on and my post count is not higher than 10 on any of them
00:27 <mkzelda> on my own site i've prolly posted no more than 100 times in a few years
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00:28 <Durka> lol
00:28 <mkzelda> haha, the image to prevent bots gave me "RIFART"
00:29 <Durka> lol
00:29 <Durka> its just so we can contact u and keep u intouch
00:29 <Durka> check it like once every other week or so :)
00:29 <mkzelda> ill try
00:30 <mkzelda> how silly, on the signup page it has an edit signature button but it asks you to log in
00:31 <Durka> ?
00:31 <Durka> lol
00:31 <Durka> o
00:31 <Durka> :)
00:31 <DrJoeTron> stop scaring mom away
00:32 <mkzelda> uhhh
00:32 <mkzelda> Failed sending email :: PHP ::
00:32 <mkzelda> DEBUG MODE
00:32 <mkzelda> Line : 234
00:32 <mkzelda> File : emailer.php
00:32 <mkzelda> it took me 3 tries to get the OCR text anti-bot image correct
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> ;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=210826&cid=17173470[Pppp-------=\
00:32 <mkzelda> then that
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> \
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> \
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> \
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> "\]
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> "?
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> "
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> "[]
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> ?";/
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> ?['
00:33 <mkzelda> I just love it when Lucifer_arma says that to me
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00:36 <Durka> o ya that thing
00:36 <Durka> ignore it
00:36 <Durka> there's something wrong in the emailer.php file
00:36 <Durka> i can't find it =/
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00:40 <mkzelda> haha, i posted
00:42 <mkzelda> oh now i notice the naming scheme
00:42 <mkzelda> :/
00:42 <mkzelda> i wish i had picked something similar
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00:54 <+spidey> no
00:54 <+spidey> i didn't pay for it
00:54 <+spidey> my brother did
00:55 <+spidey> if it was me i'd grab 3-4 keys and when someone's online with one key i switch keys until i find one someone's not using
00:55 <+spidey> Lucifer_arma, DrJoeTron Vanhayes ping
00:56 <+spidey> PING YOU FUXZ0RS!
00:56 <+spidey> :D
00:59 <luke-jr> ...
01:00 <+spidey> no body talking to you
01:01 <+spidey> go away
01:02 <+spidey> i <3 my desktop
01:08 <+spidey> durka
01:08 <+spidey> there's nothing wrong with emailer.php
01:09 <+spidey> that error means you don't have a stmp server running on the phpbb2 host
01:09 <+spidey> and/or the stmp address you supplied is invalid/doesn't work
01:09  * spidey had that problem for a while
01:09 <+spidey> 'er he left
01:14 <luke-jr> it's fscking SMTP idiot
01:16 <+spidey> w/e
01:22  * MaZuffeR waits for ghableska to go crazy and kickban everyone
01:26 <+spidey> MaZuffeR, care to help with photoshop? :
01:26 <+spidey> :p
01:26 <MaZuffeR> what you need help with?
01:26 <+spidey> or DrJoeTron ping
01:26 <+spidey> well
01:27 <+spidey> i can't figure out why the filters aren't working
01:27 <+spidey> eg
01:27 <+spidey> new page => gradient fill => filters don't work
01:27 <+spidey> i can't remember what i did to make them work with the background i'm using now
01:29 <MaZuffeR> change the mode to rgb color
01:30 <+spidey> hmm?
01:31 <MaZuffeR> image > mode > rgb
01:31 <+spidey> it is rgb
01:32 <MaZuffeR> oh, idk what's wrong then
01:32 <+spidey> :(
01:35 <Vanhayes> spidey: PONG, and stop making words up, or at least stop making stupid words up
01:36 <+spidey> ...
01:37 <Vanhayes> unless you think "FUXZORS" is a real word
01:38 <DrJoeTron> what
01:38 <Vanhayes> oh ya, what did you want?
01:38 <+spidey> to late
01:38 <+spidey> was gonna play scortched
01:38 <+spidey> but i'm playing with photoshop
01:38 <DrJoeTron> ok
01:38 <+spidey> DrJoeTron, help me with my filters :D
01:38 <Vanhayes> are you winning?
01:38 <DrJoeTron> shit man
01:38 <DrJoeTron> all you need is lens flare
01:39 <DrJoeTron> and put it on EVERYTHING
01:39 <+spidey> ?
01:39 <DrJoeTron> and everyone wil know you're a pro!
01:39 <DrJoeTron> oh add gradients too
01:39 <+spidey> ....
01:39 <DrJoeTron> with horrible colors
01:39 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p508717A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
01:39 <DrJoeTron> like brown and pink
01:39 <DrJoeTron> add FLAMES
01:42 <+spidey> w/e
01:45 <@ghableska> #weather 50265
01:45 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (5:54 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa.
01:45 <DrJoeTron> fuck with the filters and see what happens
01:45 <DrJoeTron> but try not to depend on them
01:45 <@ghableska> MaZuffeR!
01:45 <+spidey> ....
01:45  * ghableska goes crazy
01:45 <+spidey> that's not what i was talking about
01:46  * ghableska is not sure how to kickban everyone
01:46 <@ghableska> spidey: why not get GIMP? :P
01:46 <DrJoeTron> photoshop is cooler
01:46 <@ghableska> well, if you're spidey, they're both free
01:46 <DrJoeTron> or me
01:46 <Vanhayes> free is pretty nice
01:47 <+spidey> i don't understand :/
01:47 <DrJoeTron> i think im going to play CS:S for the first time in 4 months
01:48 <+spidey> the filters work when i do a solid fill
01:48 <+spidey> but when i do a gradient they don't
01:48 <DrJoeTron> what are you trying to do?
01:48 <+spidey> nothing really
01:48 <DrJoeTron> some filters just dont work well on some things
01:48 <+spidey> i wanna use a gradient and play with filters
01:48 <+spidey> they worked last time
01:48 <+spidey> i made a wallpaper :D
01:49 <DrJoeTron> then you're doing something wrong
01:49 <@ghableska> DrJoeTron: css?
01:49 <DrJoeTron> counter strike : source
01:49 <@ghableska> ...
01:49 <@ghableska> I know that
01:49 <@ghableska> I wasn't sure if it was source or the first one.. :P
01:49 <DrJoeTron> i have yet to try out the new dynamic weapons system
01:50 <DrJoeTron> wepaon lists*
01:50 <DrJoeTron> weapon*
01:50 <DrJoeTron> the prices change every week
01:50 <DrJoeTron> ghableska do you have steam?
01:50 <@ghableska> yes
01:51 <@ghableska> ...
01:52 <DrJoeTron> whats your steam id :)
01:53 <DrJoeTron> sorry i was running the video test
01:53 <DrJoeTron> in the past 2 years hl2 has been out
01:53 <DrJoeTron> i went from 65fps to 52fps
01:53 <@ghableska> guess :P
01:53 <DrJoeTron> stop updating it guys :(
01:53 <DrJoeTron> haha
01:54 <DrJoeTron> added :)
01:54 <@ghableska> ok :)
01:54 <DrJoeTron> i bet you'll never guess mine :p
01:54 <DrJoeTron> bbl
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01:55 <@ghableska> hi mom
01:56 <@ghableska> er
01:56 <+spidey> ok i give up
01:57 <+spidey> Lucifer_arma, ghableska Vanhayes scortched?
01:57 <Vanhayes> thats the spirit
01:57 <@ghableska> how do I un-ops myself? :P
01:57 <Vanhayes> kick spidey before you do
01:57 <Vanhayes> its tradition
01:57 <@ghableska> O_o
01:57 <+spidey>    /mode #armagetron -o ghableska
01:57 <@ghableska> who made me ops, anyway?
01:57 <+spidey> lke
01:57 <+spidey> luke
01:57 <@ghableska> ike?
01:57 <@ghableska> Oh.
01:57 <Vanhayes> 1l
01:57 <@ghableska> luke-jr: ...
01:57 -!- ghableska was kicked from #Armagetron by ghableska [Kick]
01:58 <Vanhayes> ...
01:58 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
01:58 <Vanhayes> wd
01:58 <ghableska> you can kick yourself?
01:58 <ghableska> O_o
01:58 <Vanhayes> ghableska has kicked ghableska from #Armagetron (Kick)
01:58 <ghableska> lol
01:58 <ghableska> I thought it wouldn't let me...
01:59 <Vanhayes> heh, thought wrong
01:59 <Vanhayes> spidey: ya scortched sounds good
01:59 <ghableska> I might play later on tonight
01:59 <ghableska> not now though
02:00 <+spidey> gimme a sec
02:00 <Vanhayes> hmmm, actually spidey what is yourkey for Halo
02:00 <ghableska> haha
02:00 <+spidey> fuck you
02:00 <ghableska> Vanhayes: find a keygen :P
02:01 <Vanhayes> heh
02:01 <Vanhayes> worth a try
02:01 <Vanhayes> meh ill do it later
02:01 <+spidey> they don't have keygens
02:01 <+spidey> not for the new version
02:01 <Vanhayes> halo 1 or 2?
02:01 <+spidey> halo2 isn't on pc
02:02 <Vanhayes> oh ya
02:02 <+spidey> not yet
02:02 <+spidey> and when it is it will be vista only
02:02 <Vanhayes> lame
02:02 <+spidey> which i'll be using vista
02:02 <Vanhayes> I dont feel like shelling out money for something I dont want or need
02:02 <+spidey> maybe
02:02 <+spidey> who pays for windows?
02:03 <Vanhayes> hmm actually I probly wouldnt be the onw paying for it
02:03 <Vanhayes> anyways, spidey want to play scortched?
02:03 <+spidey> yea, gimme a sec
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02:23 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:23 <+spidey> Compn,
02:23 <+spidey> Vanhayes,
02:23 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (6:54 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa.
02:23 <+spidey> ready?
02:23 <Vanhayes> sure
02:23 <+spidey> k gimme a sec
02:23 <+spidey> gotta start vmware and stuff
02:23 <DrJoeTron> halo2 is crap
02:23 <Vanhayes> are you running it?
02:23 <+spidey> yea
02:24 <Vanhayes> ok, heh set it so we get more money, and apoc mode
02:24 <+spidey> eh
02:25 <+spidey> ANYWAYS
02:25 <+spidey> hold on, vm is starting
02:25 <+spidey> this way it'll crash the vm and i don't have to reboot ;x
02:25 <+spidey> if it crashes
02:27 <+spidey> ok server's start
02:27 <+spidey> my ip is
02:27 <+spidey>  68.119.125.251
02:28 <DrJoeTron> hey look Your_mom_arma
02:28 <DrJoeTron> is back
02:32 <Your_mom_arma> i am?
02:34 <+spidey> shit
02:34 <+spidey> sec hayes
02:36 <DrJoeTron> looks like it
02:36 <DrJoeTron> i told durka to stop scaring you away
02:37 <DrJoeTron> i dont think he heard me
02:40 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:52 <GodTodd> wow...that was pretty damn snazzy
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02:53 <DrJoeTron> you know, sonic spinball couldve been done so much better
02:54 <ghableska> O_o
03:00 <+spidey> stupid thing
03:00 <+spidey> :/
03:00 <+spidey> don't minimize the game...
03:00 <+spidey> you guys leave?
03:00 <Vanhayes> I did
03:00 <Vanhayes> ill bbiab
03:00 <Your_mom_arma> tvan self destructs destoying half the areana then he quits
03:00 <Vanhayes> like an hoiur
03:00 <Vanhayes> heh
03:00 <+spidey> self destruct?
03:00 <Vanhayes> I used the apocalyspe bomb
03:00 <+spidey> lol
03:00 <Your_mom_arma> i was going to rush up to van and do the same thing too
03:01 <Vanhayes> at about 85 degree angle by mistake
03:01 <Vanhayes> so up it goes, then boom, half the map is gone
03:01 <Your_mom_arma> thaha
03:01 <+spidey> lol
03:01 <Vanhayes> the half with me on it, you guys' half was pretty much intaked
03:01 <Vanhayes> anyways ill be back
03:02  * GodTodd just watched the shuttle launch. :)
03:02 <+spidey> it's over already?? damn...isn't there something else you could watch for a bit? :p
03:03 <GodTodd> it was much snazzier than the daytime launches
03:03 <+spidey> what? only being heh
03:04 <+spidey> brb
03:04 <GodTodd> only being?
03:04 <GodTodd> wtf?
03:04 <+spidey> erm
03:04 <+spidey> i was gonna typing something
03:04 <+spidey> thought i backspaced it all
03:04 <+spidey> heh
03:04 <+spidey> brb
03:12 <+spidey> back
03:12 <+spidey> i need to learn to not finalize my cd's
03:12 <+spidey> so i can add stuff to them
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03:21 <luke-jr> ghableska: ...
03:25 <ghableska> luke-jr...
03:27 <luke-jr> hi
03:27 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTr0n: ...
03:28 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: 1tpd 7 min remaining
03:39 <+spidey> vangaynus....
03:44 <DrJoeTr0n> hm?
03:57 <Vanhayes> anyone playinf scortched?
03:57 <Vanhayes> playing*
03:57 <Vanhayes> #time
03:57 <armabot> Vanhayes: 04:00 AM, December 10, 2006
03:57 <+spidey> heh
03:58 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: I doubt wrtlprnft is still up
03:59 <+spidey> 4am = prime  time
04:00 <Vanhayes> 4 am is my absolute cut off time for civ
04:00 <Vanhayes> thats when I turn off the power
04:04 <+spidey> lol
04:09 <+spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Y9Lxgpms0
04:13 <luke-jr> spidey: wanna finish that game?
04:13 <+spidey> ?
04:13 <+spidey> which?
04:19 <Your_mom_arma> hi
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04:29 <luke-jr> spidey: the last one we were playing
04:29 <+spidey> need luci
04:42 <+spidey> luke-jr, ping
04:49 <luke-jr> ?
04:50 <luke-jr> you mean ping Lucifer_arma
04:51 <+spidey> no
04:51 <+spidey> luke-jr, you still got that old ssh password to fallin-angels.com ?
04:54 <luke-jr> ...
04:54 <luke-jr> I don't use passwords
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05:10  * ghableska rubs eyes
05:11  * ghableska just watched The Da Vinci Code.
05:25 <DrJoeTr0n> god the ps2 sucks for a dvd player
05:46 <ghableska> #weather 50265
05:46 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 39.2°F (9:54 PM CST on December 09, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa.
05:50 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
05:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 32°F / 0°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 12:00 AM AST; Tonight - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 20 km/h becoming southwest 20 overnight. Temperature rising to plus 2 by morning.; Sunday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Wind southwest 20 km/h becoming west 30 gusting to 50 late (1 more message)
05:50 <Vanhayes> #more
05:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: in the morning. High plus 5. Sunday night..clearing. Wind west 30 km/h gusting to 50 becoming northwest 20 in the evening. Low minus 2.; Monday - Sunny. High plus 1.;
05:57 <DrJoeTr0n> #cnn 60016
05:57 <armabot> DrJoeTr0n: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is 34.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Wind: SW at 14 mph (23 km/h).
06:02 <Vanhayes> #night
06:02 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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06:22 <+spidey> http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8817/evilgirls1wb.jpg
06:24 <ghableska> hahaha
06:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: spidey
06:32 <luke-jr> poke
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06:55 <DrJoeTr0n> ding
06:56 <luke-jr> go away
06:56 <DrJoeTr0n> away go
07:10 <GodTodd> heh luke's an ass
07:10 <luke-jr> u
07:11 <GodTodd> v
07:11 <DrJoeTr0n> time to download season 2 of venture bros
07:12 <GodTodd> ok...amend that....luke's an ass that can't formulate a complete intelligent sentence in response to anyone
07:12 <GodTodd> :)
07:15 <luke-jr> u
07:15 <luke-jr> w
07:15 <luke-jr> x
07:15 <luke-jr> y
07:15 <luke-jr> z
07:16 <GodTodd> as well as not being aware of the correct alphabet
07:16 <DrJoeTr0n> looks like preschool was rough for you luke-jr
07:17 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
07:18 <DrJoeTr0n> rise up!
07:19 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wejp_] by luke-jr
07:19 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
07:19 <DrJoeTr0n> dont make us ping guru3 smite you
07:19 <DrJoeTr0n> to* smite you
07:19 <luke-jr> hmm?
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> spidey you take over the Most used words list
07:21 <DrJoeTr0n> lets see if you can form a sentence
07:24 <luke-jr> hm
07:25 <luke-jr> well, *I* got an EFIKA and you didn't
07:25 <luke-jr> so there :p
07:29 <DrJoeTr0n> give me it
07:30 <luke-jr> lol
07:30 <luke-jr> why?
07:30  * luke-jr isn't really using it for anything
07:30 <luke-jr> ...yet, anyhow
07:30 <DrJoeTr0n> gonna put it into an NES
07:31 <DrJoeTr0n> does it have onboard video?
07:31 <luke-jr> no
07:32 <luke-jr> I have a spare Radeon 9200 SE
07:32 <luke-jr> but I haven't a need for video on it
07:32 <luke-jr> so it's not plugged in
07:32 <luke-jr> and there's nothing to hold the card in place
07:33 <DrJoeTr0n> heh
07:33 <DrJoeTr0n> i have have a 9200se pci version
07:33 <luke-jr> then it'd be sticking up
07:33 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah
07:33 <luke-jr> the AGP adapter at least rotates the card 90 degrees
07:33 <DrJoeTr0n> so maybe id have to look for one of those weird ITX boards
07:34 <luke-jr> it's ATX
07:34 <DrJoeTr0n> the efika?
07:34 <luke-jr> yeah
07:34 <luke-jr> it needs a regular ATX power supply
07:34 <luke-jr> it doesn't include a HD either :p
07:34 <DrJoeTr0n> how big is it?
07:35 <DrJoeTr0n> it looks super tiny
07:35 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.mini-itx.com/store/subscribe.asp?s=8
07:35 <DrJoeTr0n> is what i also might look at
07:36 <luke-jr> it could fit in the space of a CD-ROM drive
07:36 <DrJoeTr0n> hmmm
07:36 <luke-jr> w/o PSU and vid card
07:37 <luke-jr> HD doesn't add to the size significantly
07:37 <luke-jr> hehe, you could make it some kind of weird add-on server you put in a 5" slot :p
07:38 <luke-jr> actually...
07:38  * luke-jr claims the patent on this, or at least prior art
07:38 <luke-jr> Mac OS X virtualization for Windoze boxes :p
07:38 <luke-jr> run Mac OS X at native speed :p
07:38 <DrJoeTr0n> id just put laptop parts and just wedge it all in there
07:39 <luke-jr> :p
07:40 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/nespc/
07:41 <luke-jr> you could probably turn it into a NES :p
07:42 <luke-jr> SNES controllers have Linux support
07:42 <luke-jr> just add a cartridge interface
07:42 <luke-jr> install an emulator, etc
07:44 <DrJoeTr0n> hmm
07:44  * DrJoeTr0n checks zophar
07:45 <DrJoeTr0n> hmmm
07:46 <luke-jr> with the added bonus of compatibility w/ other platforms :p
07:46 <luke-jr> of course, it'd be real easy if you skip the cart interface and just use ROMs for everything
07:46 <luke-jr> or replace cart w/ a USB port for USB sticks
07:47 <luke-jr> you'd need to add serial ports if you wanted more than 1 controller
07:47 <luke-jr> can be done w/ a USB hub and USB->serial
07:48 <DrJoeTr0n> oh im aware
07:49 <DrJoeTr0n> so you're gonna give me it? :D
07:50 <luke-jr> heh
07:50 <luke-jr> no, but if you have the skill to make a nice game console out of it, you could probably get one :p
07:51 <luke-jr> http://projects.powerdeveloper.org/projects.php?project=300
07:51 <luke-jr> that's my project
07:51 <DrJoeTr0n> hmmm
08:03 <luke-jr> hm
08:03 <luke-jr> there already is a LinuxPPC PCI card :p
08:03 <luke-jr> http://www.killernic.com
08:03 <luke-jr> Linux box that runs in a PCI slot :p
08:07 <DrJoeTr0n> hah
08:19 <+spidey> ..
08:20 <luke-jr> ...
08:20 <luke-jr> hi spidey
08:20 <+spidey> wtf you want
08:20 <luke-jr> ...
08:22 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/
08:32 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
08:34 <+spidey> ...
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> ...
08:39 <luke-jr> http://www.agloco.com/r/BBBH2903
08:39 <luke-jr> (yes, that's a referral code :p)
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> (yes, this is me not clicking a link)
08:41 <luke-jr> heh
08:41 <luke-jr> I'd rather you than most people here, seeing as you use Linux
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08:58 <+spidey> #armaconfig
08:58 <armabot> spidey: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
08:59 <+spidey> #armaconfig rounds
08:59 <armabot> spidey: LIMIT_ROUNDS: End the match after this number of rounds (default: 10) || SP_LIMIT_ROUNDS: End the match after this number of rounds in single player mode (default: 10)
09:00 <luke-jr> spidey: BTW, let me know when you want me to sign up the site thing
09:00 <luke-jr> z-man: morning
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09:00 <+spidey> whenever it goes through
09:00 <+spidey> pm
09:00 <luke-jr> identify :p
09:01 <+spidey> yea ;/
09:01 <luke-jr> hehe
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09:47 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: you missed your turn
09:47 <wrtlprnft> #morning
09:47 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune: Okay, Marge, as long as we're traumatizing the kids, I have a scandalous || story of my own. || -- Homer Simpson || Another Simpsons Clip Show
09:47 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: not the first one i missed
09:47 <luke-jr> heh
09:47 <luke-jr> but spidey's playing now, you need to watch your back
09:47 <spidey> ...
09:47 <luke-jr> lol
09:48 <spidey> ok then
09:48 <spidey> we'll play that way
09:48 <spidey> if i refuse to ally you know why
09:48 <luke-jr> :x
09:48  * luke-jr allies w/ mog
09:48 <luke-jr> :p
09:48 <spidey> bots don't scare me
09:48  * GodTodd would refuse to ally with luke anyway since alliances with him are unbreakable.
09:49 <luke-jr> mog isn't a bot foo
09:49 <spidey> i've never broke a alliance
09:49 <luke-jr> nor have I
09:49 <spidey> but if i want to do something i won't ally
09:49 <spidey> so
09:49 <luke-jr> http://www.agloco.com/r/BBBH2903 <-- get paid to surf the net? :p
09:49 <spidey> i'm not allying with luke
09:49  * GodTodd wonders if it's moral to spam an irc channel with ads.
09:50 <luke-jr> only when GodTodd is present
09:50 <GodTodd> or only in a situationally shifting sense of morals
09:50 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you're not allowed to go there tho
09:50 <luke-jr> you're a windozeluser
09:51 <luke-jr> and I don't refer those yet
09:51 <GodTodd> ummm and my feelings are hurt?
09:51 <luke-jr> heh
09:51 <luke-jr> sorry
09:51 <GodTodd> for?
09:51 <luke-jr> hurting your feelings
09:51 <luke-jr> or whatever
09:51 <luke-jr> im tired -.-;
09:51 <GodTodd> did you see the question mark?
09:52 <GodTodd> or are you just stupid?
09:52 <luke-jr> #joke
09:52 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
09:52 <luke-jr> you forgot
09:52 <GodTodd> i wasn't joking
09:52 <GodTodd> i was asking a question
09:52 <GodTodd> which you obviously didn't understand
09:52 <luke-jr> #joke
09:52 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
09:52 <GodTodd> i will try to speak monosyllabically for you from now on
09:52 <luke-jr> or
09:52 <spidey> well
09:52 <luke-jr> you can try
09:52 <luke-jr> talking
09:52 <luke-jr> like 2020
09:52 <spidey> this always seems to work
09:52 <spidey> luke-jr, fuck off
09:53 <luke-jr> lol
09:53 <luke-jr> spide
09:53 <luke-jr> y
09:53 <luke-jr> go listen
09:53 <luke-jr> to
09:53 <spidey> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /home/acid/public_html/tron.php on line 3
09:53 <luke-jr> salva nos
09:53 <GodTodd> heh...or how about this...Prove god exists
09:53 <spidey> line 3
09:53 <spidey> $dir = "/home/acid/public_html/armagetron/bin/armagetronad-dedicated"
09:53 <spidey> wtf's wrong there..
09:53 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I'm married
09:53 <luke-jr> there, proven
09:53 <luke-jr> :p
09:54 <GodTodd> heh...he doesn't even try anymore
09:54 <spidey> that means you found a woman who will put up with you
09:54 <luke-jr> armagetronad-dedicated isn't a directory
09:54 <GodTodd> kinda sad really
09:54 <spidey> that doesn't prove god is real
09:54 <luke-jr> oh
09:54 <luke-jr> and you're
09:54 <luke-jr> missing a semicolon
09:55 <spidey> oh
09:55 <luke-jr> isn't parse and syntax error redundant
09:55 <luke-jr> to each other
09:55 <luke-jr> ?
09:55 <spidey> Warning: exec() has been disabled for security reasons in /home/acid/public_html/tron.php on line 4
09:55 <spidey> rofl
09:55 <luke-jr> haha
09:55 <luke-jr> do you have
09:56 <luke-jr> a
09:56 <luke-jr> cgi-
09:56 <luke-jr> bin
09:56 <luke-jr> ?
09:56 <spidey> yea
09:56 <spidey> i
09:56 <spidey> do
09:56 <GodTodd>  /ignore luke-jr
09:56 <spidey> have
09:56 <spidey> a
09:56 <spidey> cgi
09:56 <spidey> bin
09:56 <luke-jr> use
09:56 <luke-jr> it
09:56 <spidey> ?
09:56 <luke-jr> #!/bin/bash
09:56 <luke-jr> nohup /path/to/command/to/run
09:56 <luke-jr> then
09:56 <luke-jr> browse to it
09:56 <luke-jr> :p
09:56 <luke-jr> make sure to
09:56 <luke-jr> chmod +x
09:56 <luke-jr> it first
09:57 <spidey> do i make it .php or what?
09:57 <luke-jr> .sh
09:57 <luke-jr> is
09:57 <luke-jr> fine
09:57 <luke-jr> but then
09:57 <luke-jr> to be politically correc
09:57 <luke-jr> t
09:57 <luke-jr> /bin/bash should be
09:57 <luke-jr> /bin/sh
09:57 <luke-jr> after the #!
09:58 <GodTodd> yeah...cuz that has to do with politics
09:58 <GodTodd> moron :)
09:58 <luke-jr> I thought
09:58 <luke-jr> I was
09:58 <luke-jr> ignored
09:58 <luke-jr> ?
09:58 <GodTodd> nah...i am too amused by arrogant stupid people to ignore you luke
09:58 <GodTodd> you should know that by now
09:58 <luke-jr> but still
09:58 <luke-jr> I can make fun
09:59 <luke-jr> I wonder
09:59 <luke-jr> when will wejp
09:59 <luke-jr> notice his opship
09:59 <GodTodd> nice complete thought there, einstein
09:59 <spidey> luke-jr, and why does it want me to download it?
09:59 <luke-jr> because you
09:59 <luke-jr> did it wrong
09:59 <spidey> ...
09:59 <luke-jr> obviously
09:59 <luke-jr> it needs to be
09:59 <luke-jr> in the cgi-bin
10:00 <luke-jr> and +x
10:00 <spidey> it's +X
10:00 <@wejp_> i've noticed that, but do you want me to do anything with it?
10:00 <luke-jr> +x != +X
10:00 <luke-jr> wejp_:
10:00 <luke-jr> maybe
10:01 <luke-jr> I
10:01 <luke-jr> need sleep
10:01 <spidey> hm
10:02 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.com/cgi-bin/tron.sh
10:02 <GodTodd> no please don't go, luke
10:02 <GodTodd> please stay
10:02 <GodTodd> i need to bask in your infinite wisdom
10:02 <luke-jr> did I
10:02 <luke-jr> say
10:02 <luke-jr> I was leaving?
10:02 <luke-jr> ???
10:02 <GodTodd> i never said you did
10:03 <luke-jr> well
10:03 <luke-jr> I did
10:03 <luke-jr> imply it
10:03 <luke-jr> stupid
10:03 <GodTodd> don't talk about yourself like that, luke
10:03 <luke-jr> why
10:03 <GodTodd> because i worship you
10:03 <luke-jr> oh
10:03 <GodTodd> i want to be just like you
10:04 <luke-jr> I think
10:04 <luke-jr> you lie
10:04 <luke-jr> you shouldn't
10:04 <luke-jr> lie
10:04 <luke-jr> to
10:04 <luke-jr> people you worship
10:04 <luke-jr> especially
10:04 <luke-jr> not me
10:04 <GodTodd> heh...i'll let you work out the logic on that statement
10:05 <GodTodd> then again, you're catholic....logic is an alien concept to you
10:05 <luke-jr> n
10:05 <luke-jr> o
10:05 <luke-jr> n
10:05 <luke-jr> s
10:05 <luke-jr> e
10:05 <luke-jr> n
10:05 <luke-jr> s
10:05 <luke-jr> e
10:05 <GodTodd> yeah...that's what i said...catholic
10:06 <luke-jr> for KDE
10:06 <luke-jr> Katholic
10:09 <spidey> luke-jr,
10:09 <spidey> help with cron ;x
10:10 <wrtlprnft> spidey: $ man cron
10:10 <spidey> i dun have ssh
10:10 <wrtlprnft> you can do that on any machine
10:10 <spidey> i don't have a nix box running
10:10 <spidey> :p
10:11 <wrtlprnft> then crack one.
10:11 <wrtlprnft> #google cron manpage
10:11 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.24 seconds: cron (8): daemon to execute scheduled commands - Linux man page: <http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/cron.8.html>; crontab(5): tables for driving cron - Linux man page: <http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man5/crontab.5.html>; UNIX man pages : crontab (5): <http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?crontab+5>; Crontab Man Page: (2 more messages)
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> I quit allying with luke when I realized I could prevent hiim from smallpoxing my own cities by putting units on the border
10:15 <Lucifer_arma> allies aren't subject to zones of control, but all others are, which is why not allying with luke lets me control the situation
10:16 <spidey> heh
10:16 <spidey> luke knows he comes in my space it's his as
10:16 <spidey> ass
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> if luke wants me to accept an alliance, he's going to have to start noticing when people ask him to establish and respect borders
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> or quit pretending not to notice, whichever is applicable
10:16 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv [NP]Tangent [Xpert]DarkStar armabot Compn] by wejp_
10:16 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv GodTodd guru3 Lucifer_arma luke-jr] by wejp_
10:16 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vvvv mkzelda Plazma spidey wrtlprnft] by wejp_
10:16 -!- mode/#armagetron [+vv z-man z-man-work] by wejp_
10:17 <+spidey> o.o
10:17 <+wrtlprnft> ?
10:17 <@wejp_> lol
10:19 <+Lucifer_arma> also, if there's no strategic or tactical reason for an ally to put military units in my territory, I'll cancel the alliance and/or not make the alliance in the first place
10:19 <+wrtlprnft> wejp_'s gonna pwn us all
10:19 <@wejp_> ;)
10:19 <+spidey> yea
10:19 <+spidey> i concider acts of war
10:19 <@wejp_> :o
10:19 <+spidey> 1 offensive units in my terratory
10:20 <+spidey> 2 smallpoxing my area
10:20 <+Lucifer_arma> well, if you're using my cities to stage an invasion, that's fine, but you have to tell me you're doing it
10:20 <+spidey> 3 a large force close to me that hasn't been moved in 2 turns
10:20 <+Lucifer_arma> and you have to share vision.  :)  Allies that don't share vision are absolutely not allowed to put any military units in my territory
10:20  * wrtlprnft wonders why luke-jr's oping everyone
10:20 <+spidey> then, and only then will i take defensive matters
10:20 <+spidey> then strike :p
10:20 <@wejp_> heh
10:20 <@wejp_> no idea
10:20 <+wrtlprnft> not that i'd mind
10:20 <@wejp_> ;)
10:21 <+wrtlprnft> i trust that wejp_ won't kick everyone
10:21 <+wrtlprnft> or op spidey 
10:21 <+wrtlprnft> scary thought
10:21 <+Lucifer_arma> well, when you're the science guy I usually wind up putting lots of units in your territory
10:21 <+spidey> ...
10:21 <@wejp_> hehe i won't do that ;)
10:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
10:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o spidey] by luke-jr
10:21 <+spidey> yea
10:21 <+spidey> though i trust you
10:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o spidey] by luke-jr
10:21 <+Lucifer_arma> it's a win-win situation.  You get defenses, and I get to make sure you keep giving me science :)
10:21 <@luke-jr> until he's done w/ sciences
10:21 <+Lucifer_arma> although I prefer to guard you with naval units anyway
10:22 <+spidey> yea
10:22 <@luke-jr> then you have no reason to not attack :p
10:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by ChanServ
10:22 <+Lucifer_arma> right, and then I've got an army in his border, and we've already made a ton of enemies, so we have to work together :)
10:22 <@luke-jr> :o
10:22 <spidey> i don't think you've ever put units in my cities for defense besides that stupid russian game have you?
10:22  * luke-jr runs off to bed
10:22 <+Lucifer_arma> I've done it in emergencies
10:22 <+Lucifer_arma> like "there's barbs and no defenses, help meeee!"
10:23 <spidey> heh
10:23 <spidey> well
10:23 <spidey> even if you do have units in my city
10:23 <+Lucifer_arma> I've never done it as policy, because it is somewhat antagonistic :)
10:23 <spidey> as soon as the alliance is canceldd they go back to there homecities
10:23 <+Lucifer_arma> yep
10:23  * Lucifer_arma notes that when he puts units in there, they usually don't go in the cities, they go in more forward-positioned defensive positions
10:23 <+Lucifer_arma> and safely off any potential city work squares
10:24 <+Lucifer_arma> unless the city in question is under direct threat
10:24 <+Lucifer_arma> wait, in that europe game I kept putting units in a city, but that was because the latvians kept attacking that city, and it was the right strategic decision to defend that city
10:24 <spidey> yea
10:25 <spidey> they took that city they had a clear for me you and mom
10:25 <+Lucifer_arma> yep.  and if we defended that city, they wasted resources attacking it
10:25 <+Lucifer_arma> even if the city had gotten destroyed I would've wanted a fort there
10:25 <spidey> though
10:25 <spidey> one thing freeciv doesn't have
10:26 <spidey> in civ2 when you airlift
10:26 <spidey> if there's enemy area between
10:26 <spidey> there's a chance the unit dies
10:26 <+Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I've never really used airlifts
10:26 <spidey> i have
10:26 <+Lucifer_arma> I always found the UI frustrating and the rules never clear :/
10:26 <spidey> when i need 1 turn defense
10:26 <spidey> heh
10:27 <+Lucifer_arma> I'll probably figure it out in the warclient, which makes airlifting a lot easier
10:27 <spidey> ...
10:27 <spidey> it gives you a list of cities
10:27 <spidey> you click one that's checked
10:27 <spidey> that's the one you're airlifting to
10:27 <+Lucifer_arma> I've been adding port facilities and airports so I can build veteran navy and air units :)
10:27 <spidey> in that game were me and you control half the world
10:27 <spidey> i've got like 12 port thingies
10:28 <+Lucifer_arma> well, let me amend my statement.  I didn't play a lot of civ2, and the civ1 airlift UI was frustrating and the rules weren't very clear
10:28 <+Lucifer_arma> that game where you're aussie, and you fought the russians?  ANd I'm me.  :)  That's the game where I started building those things, which is why my barracks count doesn't give me # cities
10:29 <+Lucifer_arma> the cities that build navy don't have barracks because they're not building ground units.  If I switch them to ground units, they'll have to build a barracks first, obviously
10:29 <spidey> heh
10:29 <spidey> i've got over 87 barracks in that game
10:29 <spidey> of course i get them free
10:29 <spidey> along with anything else that costs 1 gold
10:29 <spidey> <3 me wonder
10:29 <+Lucifer_arma> :)
10:30 <spidey> there's only 2 wonders i actually want in that game
10:30 <+Lucifer_arma> there's something wrong with it, though.  I built hoover dam and now can't build power plants, and for some reason I can't build mfg plants
10:30 <spidey> the gold one and isaacs
10:30 <spidey> the rest i get to make luke mad
10:30 <spidey> ugh
10:30 <+Lucifer_arma> I prefer to let luke build 'em, and then I'll take them :)
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10:30 <spidey> you can only have either 1 nuke plant, 1 power plant, or 1 hydro damn
10:30 <spidey> you can't have all
10:31 <+Lucifer_arma> right, but hoover dam counts as a hydro plant in all cities
10:31 <spidey> exactly
10:31 <+Lucifer_arma> it's *much* cheaper than building plants in every city
10:31 <spidey> yes
10:31 <+Lucifer_arma> but somehow I cna't build mfg plants, which require a power plant of some sort and a factory
10:31 <spidey> so if you techniqually have a hydro dam in every city
10:31 <spidey> how would you build power plants ? :p
10:32 <spidey> no
10:32 <+Lucifer_arma> that's the point, I can't, but I also can't build mfg plants
10:32 <spidey> mfg plant requires mass production AND and factory
10:32 <+Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I thought I had mass production
10:32 <spidey> no?
10:32 <spidey> i had just gotten it
10:32 <+Lucifer_arma> I have factories, because the hoover dam doesn't kick in without factories anyway
10:32 <spidey> remember you went for robotics
10:33 <+Lucifer_arma> so maybe I don't have mass production, and I just expect to be able to build mfg plants when I can build howitzers because I usually get mass production first
10:33 <spidey> lol
10:34 <+Lucifer_arma> anyway, I think that game is about to run out of fun
10:34 <+Lucifer_arma> we're closer to finishing the game when it's going to run out of fun than we usually get, which I think is a good thing
10:34 <+Lucifer_arma> but basically after I'm done with the mexicans and the americans, and maybe with mordor, there isn't much left besides tedium
10:35 <spidey> well
10:35 <+Lucifer_arma> don't know for sure about where you're at, but it looks pretty much the same.  You've already done the fun stuff against the sumerians
10:35 <spidey> there's still alot
10:35 <spidey> we only control half the map
10:35 <+Lucifer_arma> yeah, but we're reaching the point where taking the whole map will be tedious and not much fun
10:35 <spidey> if that
10:36 <+Lucifer_arma> not there yet, but I think we're getting there.  Probably the next time we restore we'll be there.
10:36 <spidey> hell
10:36 <spidey> i can spit out 4 units every turn
10:36 <+Lucifer_arma> my war with the aztecs and incas was a lot of fun, and the fact that it segued into direct war with mordor was fun, but mordor is almost destroyed now
10:36 <spidey> heh
10:37 <spidey> at the rate i'm spitting out bombers
10:37 <+Lucifer_arma> I'm putting out like 12 units in 2 turns.  :)  Maybe more, maybe less.  Some of it depends on losses, because if I don't take losses, my city productions are slowing down a lot.
10:37 <spidey> i have 24 now
10:37 <spidey> in about 20 turns i should be able invade with 40
10:37 <spidey> or 50
10:37 <+Lucifer_arma> heh.  My bombers are split up right now, but I have like 44 iirc
10:38 <spidey> heh
10:38 <+Lucifer_arma> they're converging though, everywhere they're involved is advancing towards a common point
10:38 <spidey> i'm glad i populated that little alaskian like thing on my continent
10:38 <spidey> it's been a very good naval port
10:38 <+Lucifer_arma> :)
10:39 <+Lucifer_arma> those cold cities aren't necessarily bad, they just have low food production is all
10:39 <spidey> i got so many battleships i yea
10:39 <spidey> 'er
10:39 <spidey> i got so many battleships i had to start just moving them out into the harbors and "S" ing them
10:39 <+Lucifer_arma> I don't even build battleships, heh
10:39 <spidey> battleships have a 12 attack and 12 defense
10:39 <+Lucifer_arma> if battleships were cheaper, I'd build them
10:39 <spidey> if they're vet it's increased, of course
10:40 <+Lucifer_arma> well, there's several things
10:40 <spidey> i put out battleships in less than 9 turns
10:40 <spidey> in each of those cities
10:40 <+Lucifer_arma> first is that battleships are obsolete by carriers + bombers
10:40 <+Lucifer_arma> this is a historical thing, not a civ thing
10:40 <spidey> they've all got factories, offshore platforms, nuke plants, and soon to have mfg plants
10:40 <+Lucifer_arma> so when you look at modern navies, you see task groups that are aegis cruisers supporting carriers
10:41 <spidey> well
10:41 <spidey> battleships are effective against multiple targets
10:41 <+Lucifer_arma> the period where battleships are actually useful is small enough that we get past battleships faster than I can build one
10:41 <spidey> aegis cruisers get pwnt big time by battleships
10:41 <+Lucifer_arma> they are, but cruisers for the screen and subs for the attack are just as effective, if not more so
10:41 <+Lucifer_arma> yes, but they're cheaper to replace, and subs have attack 12
10:42 <spidey> yea
10:42 <+Lucifer_arma> so offensively, subs are actually better than battleships because they also have stealth
10:42 <spidey> but battleships last long
10:42 <spidey> since they're cheaper :p
10:42 <+Lucifer_arma> defensively subs suck, and they're supposed to
10:42 <spidey> yea
10:42 <+Lucifer_arma> subs can also carry missiles
10:42 <spidey> stupid sumerians whiped out 2 loaded subs
10:42 <spidey> >:|
10:42 <+Lucifer_arma> you see why I build so goddamned many subs?  :)
10:42 <+[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
10:42 <+armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune: The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent. || -- Sagan
10:42 <spidey> hey it's that darkstar person
10:43 <spidey> 'er i mean HI DARKSTAR!
10:43 <+[Xpert]DarkStar> -.-
10:43 <+Lucifer_arma> I build destroyers for my screen because they're cheap, but I'm starting to get sick of replacing them and cruisers work better, they're just more expensive
10:43 <+Lucifer_arma> so now I'm building the initial screen with destroyers and then replacing them with cruisers
10:43 <spidey> ...
10:43 <spidey> destroyers have like 4/4 rating
10:43 <spidey> they blow
10:43 <+Lucifer_arma> they do, in fact, suck pretty seriously, but they're dirt cheap
10:43 <+Lucifer_arma> and the screen I put up is expensive, even when build with destroyers
10:44 <spidey> so why not build something that'll last ALOT longer?
10:44 <spidey> i meani haven't lost a battleship yet
10:44 <+Lucifer_arma> replacing the destroyers with cruisers makes it a lot better, but you only have to replace the destroyers that are in trouble spots
10:44 <spidey> and i've been attacking coastal defenses with them
10:44 <+Lucifer_arma> well, you may not have lost a battleship, but all of my enemies have lost a lot of battleships
10:44 <spidey> heh
10:45 <spidey> doesn't matter to me though
10:45 <spidey> all that does is step up my production
10:45 <+Lucifer_arma> they bring them up and attack my destroyers, killing 2-3 of them and never seeing the sub that's also there
10:45 <spidey> bring me down to 6turns per bs!
10:45 <+Lucifer_arma> hell, I'd use transports for the screen, the screen only needs to have vision
10:46 <+Lucifer_arma> I'd use carriers for it if the game had a sensible way to manage carriers
10:46 <spidey> burn them all
10:46 <spidey> ugh
10:46 <spidey> dude
10:46 <spidey> carriers cost the same as battleships
10:46 <+Lucifer_arma> it should be that if you attack with a bomber from a carrier, it automatically returns to its carrier the next turn
10:46 <+Lucifer_arma> yeah, but they carry bombers :)
10:47 <+Lucifer_arma> I could use 3 carriers with 3-4 bombers on each of them to cover the same area that I currently build like 20 destroyers to cover
10:47 <spidey> could do it like defcon
10:47 <+Lucifer_arma> that is cheap, but it's also tedious to maintain.  The destroyers sit on sentry
10:47 <spidey> 2 bombers per carrier
10:47 <spidey> 5 fighters
10:47 <+Lucifer_arma> the carriers would require manual maintenance
10:48 <+Lucifer_arma> well, you want to place the carriers where their bombers' attack zones overlap each other's a little bit
10:48 <+Lucifer_arma> then fly awacs to patrol the area and send bombers to hit anything they see
10:48 <+Lucifer_arma> the only problem is that it would let subs through :/
10:49 <spidey> so feel the gaps with some cheap unit?
10:49 <+Lucifer_arma> like destroyers?
10:49 <+Lucifer_arma> :)
10:49 <+Lucifer_arma> that would work, then use the bombers to hit the subs when they appear
10:50 <spidey> ;p
10:50 <+Lucifer_arma> but to be useful, the game needs to manage it for me, automatically sending the awacs to patrol, and automatically launching the bombers to hit anything it sees
10:50 <+Lucifer_arma> now, can bombers be put on autoattack in a carrier?
10:50 <spidey> "patrol"
10:50 <spidey> it's a option
10:51 <+Lucifer_arma> well, warclient provides air unit patrol
10:51 <spidey> hm
10:51 <spidey> guess i could patrol my costal cities then
10:51 <spidey> :D
10:51 <+Lucifer_arma> I've actually had good luck with putting subs on patrol, so maybe filling in the gap with patrolling subs would be better than brute-forcing it with destroyers
10:51 <+Lucifer_arma> warclient's UI additions are useful, but a real pain to use
10:52 <+Lucifer_arma> the only time I used air unit patrol I managed to run the bomber out of fuel somehow
10:52 <spidey> lol
10:53 <+Lucifer_arma> I do want patrolling ships to automatically attack any enemy they find and then go back on patrol
10:53 <+Lucifer_arma> of course, I want sentried ships to do it too :)
10:53 <spidey> lol
10:53 <spidey> argh
10:53 <spidey> i'ma have to learn mysql
10:55 <spidey> i'ma go get owned in americas army
10:55 <spidey> heh
10:56 <spidey> btw
10:56 <spidey> the people who play halo demo
10:56 <spidey> are bigger noobs than luke-jr
10:56 <spidey> i massacured them fuckers
10:56 <spidey> and i suck
10:56 <spidey> my record was 1 death vs 6 of them
10:57 <spidey> and a score of 25 kills
10:57 <spidey> 25 kills = the limit, then it's next round
10:57 <spidey> now americas army :D
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11:10 <+Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, I also want to be able to attack units that I'm neutral towards
11:11 <+Lucifer_arma> I don't like having to declare war to attack a unit.  Sure, the person controlling it should declare war on me, but I don't want to have to declare war to do it
11:11 <+Lucifer_arma> sometimes you just want to say "move that piece or I'm killing it", and neither side wants total war
11:12 <+Lucifer_arma> but when you declare war, you almost have to be able to go to total war to back it up, while in most situations where you want to attack a unit without declaring war,
11:12 <+Lucifer_arma> it's not likely to escalate to total war.  It's more likely to be "That wasn't nice, but I'll back off because I'm not ready for war either"
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13:30 <+wrtlprnft> #g log(2)
13:30 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: log(2) = 0.301029996
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14:23 <+Lucifer_arma> I feel like a broken record
14:23 <+Lucifer_arma> "Don't force it!"
14:23 <+Lucifer_arma> never works.
14:23 <+Lucifer_arma> My wife's convinced that to make anything work, you have to apply force, in spite of the fact that you only ever have to apply force to parts designed to be forced, and there will be directions telling you to do so
14:35 <+wrtlprnft> it works if you just use enough force
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15:51 <+Compn> Lucifer_arma : what is she forcing?
15:52 <+Lucifer_arma> christmas tree.  There's a little pipe at the bottom that hooks into the stand and into the main tree
15:52 <+Lucifer_arma> the main tree pipe has a groove in it that fits the seam in the bottom pipe
15:52 <+Lucifer_arma> she didn't even bother looking at *how* they went together, and swore she didn't force the two pieces together
15:52 <+Lucifer_arma> nevertheless, I needed a hammer to separate them
15:57 <+Compn> ah yes
15:57 <+Compn> the old 'insert peg a into slot b' fiasco
15:57 <+Compn> many people fall victim to this trap
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16:37 <ghableska> luke-jr: ...
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17:25 <ghableska_> >_>
17:27 <ghableska_> #weather 50265
17:27 <+armabot> ghableska_: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 44.6°F (9:54 AM CST on December 10, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa.
17:30 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
17:30 <+armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 48.6°F (10:30 AM CST on December 10, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa.
17:39 <ghableska_> so, what's the difference between normal and voice?
17:47 <GodTodd> a little yellow dot on my client
17:48 <ghableska_> mine is swirly, beat that
17:49 <GodTodd> :P
18:38 <spidey> .
18:38 <ghableska_> ..
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18:39 <spidey> :
18:39 <spidey> :D
18:39 <ghableska> ...
18:40 <spidey> stfu
18:40 <ghableska> you stfu
18:40 <spidey> u
18:40 <ghableska> you know what?
18:40 <spidey> ?
18:40 <ghableska> #weather 50265
18:40 <spidey> luke's gay?
18:40 <ghableska> :P
18:40 <+armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (10:54 AM CST on December 10, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa.
18:41 <spidey> #weather 38256
18:41 <+armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 46.9°F (11:41 AM CST on December 10, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029.0 hPa.
18:41 <spidey> joo r tEh six
18:41 <spidey> sux
18:42 <GodTodd> j00 r the sux typzor
18:42 <GodTodd> teh
18:42 <GodTodd> *
18:42 <ghableska> 1337 is for n00bs
18:43 <GodTodd> 1337 is java programming
18:43 <ghableska> haha
18:43 <spidey> java sux
18:43 <GodTodd> ok luke
18:43 <spidey> luke-jr, joo sux
18:44 <GodTodd> i know he's your hero
18:45 <ghableska> :P
18:45 <ghableska> #f
18:45 <GodTodd> #later tell spidey stfu
18:45 <+armabot> Random Fortune: Coward, n.: || One who in a perilous emergency thinks with his legs. || -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
18:45 <+armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
18:46 <ghableska> #later tell spidey stfu
18:46 <+armabot> ghableska: The operation succeeded.
18:46 <GodTodd> #later tell spidey stfu
18:46 <+armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
18:46 <GodTodd> #later tell spidey stfu
18:46 <+armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
18:46 <GodTodd> #later tell spidey stfu
18:46 <GodTodd> #later tell spidey stfu
18:46 <+armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
18:46 <+armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
18:47 <ghableska> spidey: hi
18:47 <spidey> ...
18:47 <GodTodd> #later tell spidey stfu
18:47 <+armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
18:50 <GodTodd> wow...spidey was silenced :D
18:50 <spidey> ..
18:50 <+wrtlprnft> lol
18:50 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v GodTodd] by ChanServ
18:50 <spidey> you started it
18:50 <ghableska> hehe
18:51 <ghableska> spidey: I"[11:51] armabot: Sent 1 minute ago: <spidey> gay
18:51 <ghableska> [11:51] armabot: Sent 1 minute ago: <spidey> gay
18:51 <ghableska> [11:51] armabot: Sent 1 minute ago: <spidey> gay
18:51 <ghableska> [11:51] armabot: Sent 1 minute ago: <spidey> gay
18:51 <ghableska> [11:51] armabot: Sent 1 minute ago: <spidey> gay
18:51 <ghableska> [11:51] armabot: Sent 1 minute ago: <spidey> gay
18:51 <ghableska> [11:51] armabot: Sent 1 minute ago: <spidey> gay
18:51 <ghableska> [11:51] armabot: Sent just now: <spidey> gay
18:51 <ghableska> [11:51] armabot: Sent just now: <spidey> gay"
18:51 <ghableska> ...
18:51 <spidey> you did it to
18:51 <spidey> :p
18:51 <ghableska> only once :P
18:51 <ghableska> GodTodd should have gotten most of those
18:51 <+wrtlprnft> #list admin
18:52 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
18:52 <+wrtlprnft> #admin ignore add spidey 
18:52 <+armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
18:52 <ghableska> heh
18:52 <spidey> ...
18:52 <+wrtlprnft> ghableska: thanks for telling me :)
18:52 <ghableska> huh?
18:52 <spidey> <armabot> Sent 1 minute ago: <GodTodd> stfu
18:52 <spidey> <armabot> Sent 1 minute ago: <ghableska> stfu
18:52 <spidey> <armabot> Sent 1 minute ago: <GodTodd> stfu
18:52 <spidey> <armabot> Sent 1 minute ago: <GodTodd> stfu
18:52 <spidey> <armabot> Sent 1 minute ago: <GodTodd> stfu
18:52 <spidey> <armabot> Sent 1 minute ago: <GodTodd> stfu
18:52 <spidey> think i care for spam either?
18:52 <ghableska> lol
18:52 <+wrtlprnft> evil GodTodd, evil.
18:53  * ghableska is free from any wrongdoing
18:53  * wrtlprnft shoots a sharp look at GodTodd
18:54  * GodTodd looks ashamed.
18:56  * ghableska yawns
18:56  * GodTodd picks eye boogers.
18:57  * ghableska is not amused
18:57 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, Lucifer_arma ghableska scortched3d?
18:57 <spidey> 'er
18:57 <spidey> luke-jr, *
18:58 <ghableska> haven't you done that before? :P
18:58 <spidey> yea
19:03 <+Lucifer_arma> maybe a bit later
19:06 <+armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6478 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Io + addons can now be shipped with the game.
19:07 <ghableska> hmm
19:07 <+armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6479 /private/z-man/clio/state.hpp: Added IoState* accessor
19:08 <+wrtlprnft> i liked the colors there :(
19:08 <ghableska> those aren't in color anymore. :(
19:08 <+wrtlprnft> guru3: any chance we can get colors back and have normal ops be able to disable them temporarily?
19:08 <+wrtlprnft> after all most clients support disabling all colors as well
19:10 <ghableska> #later tell ghableska hi
19:10 <+armabot> ghableska: The operation succeeded.
19:10 <+wrtlprnft> ghableska: won't work, you'll get it at the same time you send it
19:11 <ghableska> yeah. :/
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19:22 <@guru3> haha
19:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [+c] by ChanServ
19:22 <ghableska> :P
19:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [-c] by ChanServ
19:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [-vvvv mkzelda Compn GodTodd armabot] by guru3
19:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [-vvvv wrtlprnft Lucifer_arma luke-jr Plazma] by guru3
19:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [-vvv [Xpert]DarkStar [NP]Tangent z-man-work] by guru3
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19:27 <wrtlprnft> thanks :)
19:27 <ghableska> hehe
19:27 <ghableska> back to normal now? 
19:27 <+guru3> i'd like to point out that it's best if there aren't voices and people with ops
19:27 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
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19:27 <wrtlprnft> hmm, chanserv still controls it
19:28 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
19:28 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i didn't voice everyone :(
19:28 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v guru3] by guru3
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19:28 <guru3> don't know how to make chanserv relinquish control
19:29 <Lucifer_arma> mmm mmmm mmmmmmm mm mmmm mm mm
19:29 <ghableska> O_o
19:31 <wrtlprnft> guru3: use SET #armagetron MLOCK?
19:31 <wrtlprnft> just remove the c flag from it completely
19:32 <guru3> did mlock -c
19:33 <wrtlprnft> no c at all, neither -c nor c
19:33 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6480 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/macosx/AAIo.mm: Removed debug output
19:33 <guru3> and how would you d othat?
19:33 <wrtlprnft> sec
19:34 <wrtlprnft> set #arma-ladle mlock ""
19:34 <wrtlprnft> that worked for me
19:36 <guru3> done
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19:37 <wrtlprnft> works, thanks :)
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19:45 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6481 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/render/rSysdep.cpp: Re-enable threading
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19:52 <wrtlprnft> oh, duh, there's an Io branch i can actually test?
19:53 <wrtlprnft> i checked out private/z-man/clio and only saw tests
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21:35 <Lucifer_arma> I want to play a pirate game
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22:06 <luke-jr> like a civ game where we're all pirates?
22:07 <luke-jr> /set startunits ckxDaaaAAA
22:07 <DrJoeTr0n> i wish Pirates! was multiplayer :/
22:09 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: spidey: want to try a pirate game? :p
22:10 <luke-jr> I'll need to take a 5 hour break in 20 minutes or so, but we can start :p
22:13 <spidey> ..
22:13 <spidey> #cnn 38256
22:13 <spidey> it's
22:13 <spidey> how
22:13 <spidey> hot
22:13 <spidey> 'er
22:14 <luke-jr> ...
22:14 -!- spidey is now known as spider
22:14 -!- spider is now known as spidey
22:14 <spidey> wtf
22:15 <GodTodd> i think you're still on armabot ignore from earlier
22:15 <spidey> that's gay
22:16 <GodTodd> wrtlprnft> #admin ignore add spidey
22:16 <GodTodd> <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:16 <GodTodd> that was at 11:52 central
22:20 <Vanhayes> #cnn 38257
22:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Martin, TN is 52.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 24%. Wind: SSW at 8 mph (13 km/h).
22:20 <Vanhayes> #cnn 38258
22:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in McKenzie, TN is 52.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Wind: S at 7 mph (11 km/h).
22:20 <Vanhayes> #cnn 38255
22:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in Martin, TN is 52.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 24%. Wind: SSW at 8 mph (13 km/h).
22:36 <wrtlprnft> #admin ignore list
22:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 'TitsnAss!n=TitsnAss@c-24-5-241-188.hsd1.ca.comcast.net'
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22:37 <DrJoeTr0n> yo
22:37 <wrtlprnft> hi
22:38 <Your_mom_arma> hey
22:42 <DrJoeTr0n> this mini boss wont fucking die!
22:46 -!- DrJoeTr0n is now known as DrJoeTron
22:49 <DrJoeTron> jesus that took 20 minutes
22:51 <GodTodd> an eternity
22:52 <luke-jr> hm
22:52 <luke-jr> I lose civ-pirate game
23:01 <DrJoeTron> an eternity if your playing it on a ds
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: a civ pirate game?
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> er, I was thinking more like a pirate game that's roughly formatted like silent service, only you're a pirate in 1630 in the caribbean rather than a sub in ww2 pacific
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> you'd have to outfit the ship, pay the crew, buy food, ammo, powder, etc.
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> a good sail-powered war simulator, but turn-based
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> multiplayer, and you can pick if you want to be a pirate, a merchant, or a military vessel (they're all the same ships anyway)
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> you can buy and sell shit (unless you're military).  You can fight other players, maybe a loan system so when you sink another player he can still get a new ship
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> and have little quests show up every now and then, so you can go search for hidden treasure, magical artifacts and crap.  So not a perfect historical simulation.  :)
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> and you can bury your own treasure, but other players could unbury it of course
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> while I was thinking a 3d UI would be nice, it occurs to me the game could be reasonably written quickly if it were just 2d
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> use sdl, if you don't want to have to deal with widgets, use sdl+qt
23:25 <Vanhayes> didnt the guy who made Civilization make a pirate game too?
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but it sucked
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> he also made silent service
23:26  * Lucifer_arma notes that Sid Meier has been around for a long time
23:27 <Vanhayes> ya, civ1 was made in the late 80s wasnt it?
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> early 90s.  Might have been 1989 or so
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> I knew kids in high school that played it, but didn't personally play it until a few years later, but before civ2 came out
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking of copying a pirate board game my brother and I used to play
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> you have these maneuvering cards, and every turn you had to pick 3 cards and lay them face down.  So would the other guy
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> your ships moved over a grid.  The 3 cards were there to provide something resembling wind simulation, an obvious and effective abstraction
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> so after you picked your cards, you would turn each over in turn.  If you were in range, you could fire cannons depending on the orientation of the ships
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> ah, it was called Broadsides and Boarding Parties
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> so each time you turned over a card, you could fire if you were in range, so you'd always try to cross the T, which meant you could fire a broadside and the other ship couldn't fire shit
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> if the ships "collided", you went to boarding parties, where you positioned the two ship models next to each other according to their orientation and you boarded their ship and tried to take it
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> moving your figures around and stuff.  You removed the cannons because they weren't used and they just got in the way.  Once you took the other ship's captain, you won.
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> or, if you were the pirate ship, you could win by landing on the military ship's square
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, turning that into a multi-player networked game by itself would be a lot of fun, I think.
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> but I had some improvements in mind.  :)
23:33 <Your_mom_arma> i'ld like to be able to run around on the boat
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> You still get a regular top-down tactical layout.  Each turn you have wind, you can change your heading, change your sail rigging, and fire
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> everyone takes their turn at the same time, then the turn gets executed
23:34 <Lucifer_arma> so if you're going slow enough and you ram a ship, you go to boarding parties, but if you're going fast, you ram them instead
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> it's actually more like an old c-64 game I played called Balance of Power, which used spaceships
23:35 <Vanhayes> heh, thatd be fun, go full speed into the side of another guys' boat and see who comes out in one peice
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, what you do in the fight depends on what you want :)
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> if you're a pirate attacking a merchant vessel, you just want to shoot the masts and get them to surrender without boarding
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> if you're a pirate facing a military vessel, you want to sink them or disable them so you can get away
23:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: a civ pirate game :p
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> if you're a military vessel, just sink the pirates :)
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> if you're a merchant vessel, if there are no survivors and your crew is utterly loyal to you....
23:37 <luke-jr> needs some ruleset changes
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> so there'd be a campaign mode, right?
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> in the campaign mode you wonder around teh ocean looking for ships to fight
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> and your crew would have loyalty ratings, and if you did stupid things like run them out of food or stay away from land too long they might mutiny
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> the more treasure you build up on the ship the higher the chances of the crew mutinying
23:38 <luke-jr> well, I think one change would be
23:38 <luke-jr> start w/ Triemes
23:38 <luke-jr> :p
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> and you have to return to port every now and then to buy more ammo and food and replenish your crew
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23:38 <luke-jr> and allow military to attack boats
23:39 <luke-jr> so you can have at-sea battles
23:39 <luke-jr> eg, load units on a boat and pull up next to an enemy boat and attack
23:39 <luke-jr> and conquer boats like cities
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> there's not an option in the ruleset for that
23:39 <luke-jr> or smth
23:39 <luke-jr> hm
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> you'd have to modify the code
23:40 <luke-jr> land units can't attack sea?
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> I looked for it, I wanted to make an artillery piece that could attack ships too
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> nope
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> and you can't force zones of control on ships
23:40 <luke-jr> lame
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> the airattack might suffice to make it happen, but it may require you to be an air unit to work :)
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> you'd have to modify the code anyway to let units take ships like they take cities
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23:46 <Your_mom_arma> i think the mutinay thing should have some kind of math algorithem so its based on the rate of which you recieve gold and not how much you have
23:47 <Your_mom_arma> spelling*
23:56 <DrJoeTron> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eccc09a848 :D

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00:23 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3887493.stm <-- "Holy Church of The Order of The Red Breast"
00:23 <ghableska> o0
00:25 <Your_mom_arma> DrJoeTron: creepy
00:25 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma i just notice its got the dad from titus
00:25 <DrJoeTron> wait no
00:26 <DrJoeTron> its the grounded for life grandpa
00:26 <DrJoeTron> i get the cancelled fox sitcoms mixed up
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, the rate at which you receive gold should matter more than how much you get, but on the other hand, the more you have on the ship the more likely your crew is to betray you
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> in the first instance it's "He's a loser captain"
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> in the second it's "Look at all that gold!  If we knock out the captain, we can keep it for ourselves!"
00:43 <DrJoeTron> making a pirate version of freeciv?
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01:34 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:35 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (5:54 PM CST on December 10, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa. 
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01:42 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr Vanhayes ghableska Your_mom_arma ping
01:43 <Your_mom_arma> pong
01:43 <spidey> guys wanna play scortched3d?
01:43 <spidey> i'ms start calling it
01:43 <spidey> S3D
01:43 <spidey> cause it's a big word
01:44 <spidey> and i'ma start abbreviating big words
01:44 <ghableska> you do that
01:44 <spidey> like Lucifer_arma 
01:44 <spidey> LA
01:44 <spidey> and Your_mom_arma , ymca ;x
01:45 <ghableska> ghableska?
01:45 <spidey> who?
01:45 <ghableska> spidey?
01:45 <spidey> who?
01:45 <ghableska> ...
01:45 <spidey> what?
01:57 <Your_mom_arma> you adresss me as mom or mr. mom spidey
01:57 <spidey> ok mrs mom
01:57 <Your_mom_arma> is there a server up ?
01:57 <spidey> not right now
01:58 <spidey> i'll put one up if anyone wants to play
01:58  * spidey wants to play
01:58 <Your_mom_arma> i'll play
01:58 <spidey> no killing me on the first turn ;p
01:58 <spidey> i'm just now figuring out the autoaim
01:58 <spidey> i thought the stupid thing lined it up automatically
01:58 <Your_mom_arma> well i'll see what i can do
01:58 <spidey> but you have to point the mouse >.>
01:59 <Your_mom_arma> auto aim?
02:01 <spidey> yea
02:01 <spidey> sec
02:01 <spidey> 68.119.125.27
02:15 <DrJoeTron> are you playing scorch3d?
02:17 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
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03:04 <DrJoeTron> brb
03:18 <DrJoeTron> man i wish some of you guys played bf2
03:24 <spidey> heh
03:29 <DrJoeTron> because that game never gets old for me
03:29 <DrJoeTron> well...
03:29 <DrJoeTron> no it really doesnt
03:30 <DrJoeTron> cept for the Yay i spawne-URK"
03:30 <DrJoeTron> thanks jerks
03:55 <Vanhayes> spidey: still playing scortched?
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04:17 <Vanhayes2> #night
04:17 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes2!
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04:38 <spidey> DrJoeTron, spawners?
04:38 <spidey> rofl!
04:38 <spidey> i'm a spawn killer ;/
04:38 <spidey> not if i can help it
04:38 <spidey> but
04:38 <spidey> if i run past someone
04:38 <DrJoeTron> see thats the thing
04:38 <DrJoeTron> we all are
04:38 <spidey> and it's me or them
04:38 <spidey> it's them damn it
04:38 <DrJoeTron> but on a 64 person server
04:38 <DrJoeTron> it gets brutal
04:38 <spidey> heh
04:38 <DrJoeTron> especailly with artillery in uncaps
04:38 <spidey> lolol
04:39 <DrJoeTron> its devasting
04:39 <spidey> i try not to spawn kill
04:39 <DrJoeTron> its hilarious to do
04:39 <DrJoeTron> but not fun on the receiving end
04:39 <spidey> but if they like
04:39 <spidey> spawn right next to me
04:39 <DrJoeTron> i do that all of time
04:39 <DrJoeTron> oh yeah, you kill them
04:39 <DrJoeTron> i make a not of it
04:39 <spidey> i don't wanna die so i kill 'em :p
04:39 <DrJoeTron> note*
04:39 <DrJoeTron> to kill them
04:39 <DrJoeTron> i like to storm the air carrier with a medic and a supply guy and and an anti tank
04:39 <DrJoeTron> and just wreak havoc
04:40 <spidey> kik
04:40 <spidey> lol
04:40 <DrJoeTron> "im gonna takez off with a jet! hurrr!" *BLAM*
04:40 <DrJoeTron> it never gets old
04:40 <DrJoeTron> when you get it spidey, we'll have fun
04:40 <spidey> if i get it
04:40 <spidey> haven't decided
04:40 <DrJoeTron> i live for the jets
04:41 <spidey> i like warrock best of the games i played so far
04:41 <spidey> i'm ranked 5 ;x
04:41 <spidey> 5 more ranks and i'll be a corporal!
04:42 <spidey> or
04:42 <spidey> whatever rank has those V's
04:42 <spidey> dude
04:42 <spidey> you ever played halo zero?
04:43 <spidey> picture soldat, combined with halo, combined with ninja turtles 
04:43 <spidey> then throw french into the mix
04:43 <spidey> then you got halo zero
04:43 <DrJoeTron> sounds horrible
04:43 <DrJoeTron> to me at least
04:43 <spidey> it is
04:43 <spidey> very
04:44 <DrJoeTron> get bf2 :/
04:44 <spidey> gotta wait
04:44 <spidey> it'll be about
04:44 <spidey> well
04:44 <spidey> i can get the game now
04:44 <spidey> but i can't play it
04:45 <spidey> anyways
04:45 <spidey> it'll be around janurary 1st
04:45 <DrJoeTron> http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=3097 here you go :p
04:45 <spidey> plus whatever the shipping time is
04:45 <DrJoeTron> this sums up how to play bf2
04:46 <DrJoeTron> like Constantly Vote to Remove Your Commander! or If You See Somebody Repairing a Vehicle, Feel Free to Take It!
04:46 <spidey> rofl
04:46 <spidey> i do that in warrock
04:46 <spidey> if it's a tank or chopper
04:47 <DrJoeTron> and Revive Fallen Teammates In the Middle of Firefights!
04:47 <DrJoeTron> its fun to do!
04:47 <DrJoeTron> yay! URK!
04:47 <DrJoeTron> bzzzt! you'll live buddy, now get back to the fight! URK!
04:47 <DrJoeTron> bzzt!
04:48 <DrJoeTron> you'll live buddy now get back the URK!
04:48 <DrJoeTron> bzzzt
04:48 <spidey> rofl
04:48 <DrJoeTron> read it :p
04:57 <spidey> ok
04:57 <spidey> sleep
04:57 <spidey> now!
05:39 <luke-jr> ...
05:46 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: spidey [NP]Tangent GodTodd 
05:46 <luke-jr> pirate civ?
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07:22 <Durka> #lastseen infamous
07:22 <armabot> Durka: ¦Ö¦Infamous has last been seen on Fortress Café 0 days 11 hours 48 minutes ago.
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08:03 <DrJoeTron> http://www.typingtest.com/test/default.asp who can type the fastest here
08:07 <luke-jr> mer
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08:51 <wrtlprnft> is it cheating of i copy and paste that address or am i supposed to type it? :D
08:55 <wrtlprnft> *if
09:02 <GodTodd> i got 50 wpm
09:06 <luke-jr> lol
09:09 <GodTodd> something funny?
09:17 <luke-jr> yep
09:18 <DrJoeTron> 65 "
09:18 <DrJoeTron> :/*
09:18 <GodTodd> luke-jr: i meant besides in your mirror
09:18 <luke-jr> so did I
09:18 <GodTodd> liar
09:24 <DrJoeTron> haha wrtlprnft 
10:32 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma ping
10:33 <DrJoeTron> tomorrow
10:33 <DrJoeTron> haha it works
10:34 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: pong
10:34 <DrJoeTron> ok
10:34 <DrJoeTron> good news and bad news, sir.
10:34 <DrJoeTron> which one you want first
10:35 <Lucifer_arma> since I just woke up and am feeling terribly indecisive, I'll get a cup of tea
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10:36 <DrJoeTron> i take that back with the good news
10:36 <DrJoeTron> i have good news and good news
10:37 <DrJoeTron> in fact you now get a choice in DrJoeTron's Used Computer, Pool, and Patio Emporium.
10:37 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I'll take tha patio emporium!
10:37 <Lucifer_arma> ok, so what is the news?
10:38 <DrJoeTron> ok
10:38 <DrJoeTron> while looking for the computer stuff to send you
10:38 <DrJoeTron> i couldnt find it, scratched my head, and went an deconstructed the computer i had gotten from relatives.
10:39 <DrJoeTron> its a 500mhz (if i remember) intel pentium III
10:39 <DrJoeTron> ATX board
10:39 <DrJoeTron> but
10:39 <DrJoeTron> no case
10:39 <DrJoeTron> and its a DELL motherboard
10:40 <Lucifer_arma> uh huh.  so where does "choice" come in?
10:41 <DrJoeTron> i then also found my the other pc
10:41 <DrJoeTron> when i looked away from the screen and took a 2nd look
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, I get to pick one or the other?
10:42 <DrJoeTron> so that one is a 450mhz celeron, micro atx board, the cpu fan is going bad, has a tiny case that can probably stop bullets with all of the metal its has
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> the computer that ws in a fire, or the one with the dell motherboard
10:42 <DrJoeTron> you can pick both if you'd like probably
10:42 <DrJoeTron> neither were on fire
10:42 <Lucifer_arma> can I smoke a cigarette real quick?  :)
10:43 <DrJoeTron> go for it
10:43 <DrJoeTron> im destroying my room and cleaning it all at once
10:43 <DrJoeTron> its been a weekend endeavor
10:43 <DrJoeTron> and im really lazy and i procrastinate to no end
10:45 <DrJoeTron> got a free dvd rom and burner out of that sucker :)
10:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6482 /private/z-man/clio/ (21 files):
10:48 <armabot> armagetronad: Added support for custom constructors.
10:48 <armabot> armagetronad: Added support for classes without (or with private) default or copy constructors or with protected and private destructors.
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> ok, the one that's the dell motherboard, does it have a standard atx power connector?
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> for that matter, do they both?  Problem with OEM boards sometimes is they use a nonstandard power connector, so you can't get a power supply
10:57 <Lucifer_arma> you have to get a new computer :(
10:58 <Lucifer_arma> if they have standard atx power connectors, I'll take both.  :)  One for a backup server, and one for a kid computer (my kids need their own now)
10:58 <DrJoeTron> nope
10:58 <DrJoeTron> they work
10:58 <DrJoeTron> all of them
10:59 <DrJoeTron> they're work
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> so, "nope, they don't have standard atx power connectors"?  Or "Yes, they'll work with standard atx power supplies"?
10:59 <DrJoeTron> sorry im incohearent
10:59 <DrJoeTron> they take standard atx
10:59 <Lucifer_arma> ok, then if I can have both, I'll take both :)
11:00 <DrJoeTron> theres one none' related thing with the dell mobo
11:00 <DrJoeTron> cool it should fit
11:00 <DrJoeTron> i'd offer the case for the dell
11:01 <DrJoeTron> but i destroyed it pretty much
11:01 <DrJoeTron> this was when it was still "lets be creative with case design so its virtually impossible to install stuff"
11:02 <DrJoeTron> oop lemme find the cpu for it
11:05 <DrJoeTron> ok cool
11:05 <DrJoeTron> i figured i'd offer both since its been 4 months since i said i'd send it
11:07 <DrJoeTron> i'll leave the cpu unplugged so it doesnt crack off durring shipping
11:10 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma but yeah i'll send it sometime this week hopefully
11:10 <DrJoeTron> im going to try to
11:10 <DrJoeTron> rather than trying to try
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> ko.  just let me know where to paypal the shipping :)
11:22 <DrJoeTron> i'll let you know
11:22 <DrJoeTron> when i actually ship
11:22 <DrJoeTron> actually
11:22 <DrJoeTron> fuck it
11:22 <DrJoeTron> christmas :d
11:22 <DrJoeTron> its a gift! ;p
11:22 <DrJoeTron> oh dear, i think the case is bent
11:24 <DrJoeTron> hope that doesnt bother you :p
11:24 <DrJoeTron> its such a peice of shit case
11:24 <DrJoeTron> thanks hp
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> I'll work something out.  Cases are cheap anyway, and I probalby need power supplies.  Usually you just get a case when you need a power supply ;)
11:26 <DrJoeTron> haha
11:26 <Lucifer_arma> the problem is the stuff that goes inside the case, if you buy it brand new, adds up to a fair chunk of change when you start from nothing
11:26 <DrJoeTron> the case is hard to pry apart
11:26 <DrJoeTron> totally
11:27 <Lucifer_arma> when you start with something, well, obviously that's better :)
11:27 <DrJoeTron> espcailly cables
11:27 <DrJoeTron> the computers ive made for friends and family they all are mixes of new and used parts
11:28 <DrJoeTron> i think the most expensive pc i've bui;t was 1100 dollars i believe
11:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's really the easiest way to start.  :)
11:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I don't even have 1100 dollars into my server yet.  :/
11:29 <DrJoeTron> haha
11:29 <DrJoeTron> neither does my pc
11:29 <Lucifer_arma> my laptop was around $1k, but that's how laptops are.
11:29 <DrJoeTron> it doesn even have 300 dollars in it
11:29 <DrJoeTron> my friend also wanted a 400 dollar video card
11:29 <DrJoeTron> so that cost the most
11:29 <Lucifer_arma> ack.  I buy the cheapest video cards when I have to, I don't mind having an outdated card
11:30 <Lucifer_arma> I have to admit, I love the geforce that's in my laptop
11:30 <DrJoeTron> well since i play video games alot
11:30 <Lucifer_arma> I want to write the pirate game I was talking about earlier
11:30 <DrJoeTron> i wait a bit, wait for a decient video card to go to 100 dollars rather than 400 dollars
11:31 <DrJoeTron> haha i wanna help :p
11:31 <DrJoeTron> i wanna make the splash screen ;)
11:31 <Lucifer_arma> :)  If you really want to help, I could use an accumulation of 17th century pirate/nautical folklore :)
11:31 <Lucifer_arma> I just looked around wikipedia for what they've got, and there isn't much
11:32 <DrJoeTron> i can see what i can do
11:32 <DrJoeTron> my friends love pirate stuff
11:32 <DrJoeTron> and since pirates of the carribean II just came out on dvd
11:32 <DrJoeTron> that means the history channel is going to show pirate crap again
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> I just watched that movie, it's what got me thinking about a pirate game again
11:33 <DrJoeTron> hah
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> see, I've wanted a good sail/gunpowder combat simulator of some sort for years
11:33 <DrJoeTron> i could send you this genesis rom i have
11:33 <DrJoeTron> Pirates Gold
11:33 <Lucifer_arma> so every now and then, I get a little tease to make one
11:34 <DrJoeTron> thats the first thing that came to mind
11:34 <DrJoeTron> its based off of Sid Meiers Pirates
11:35 <Lucifer_arma> I kind of remember Sid Meier's Pirates sucking
11:35 <DrJoeTron> thats why its based
11:35 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter, I want multi-player networked play where you can fight other players and accumulate a big treasure :)
11:35 <DrJoeTron> Pirates Gold for the genesis was extremely fun
11:35 <DrJoeTron> OH GOD
11:35 <DrJoeTron> COUNT ME IN
11:36 <DrJoeTron> I'll do anything i can possibly do that doesnt involve coding
11:36 <DrJoeTron> like textures and what not
11:36 <DrJoeTron> and looking up the folklore :)
11:37 <DrJoeTron> but oh god,
11:37 <DrJoeTron> thats exactly what ive been looking for
11:38 <DrJoeTron> take me with you! :)
11:41 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma yeah the case is totally bent
11:41 <DrJoeTron> this thing hasnt been together in...actually a complete year
11:41 <DrJoeTron> wowee
11:43 <DrJoeTron> but yeah, if you're looking for people to help, count me in
11:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd like historical accuracy as a base, for sure.  So the british navy will be the miscreants they actually were (they didn't become a disciplined "modern" navy until the 20th century)
11:44 <Lucifer_arma> I also don't want people to put in a lot of work on vaporware, so I should warn you you could be taking chances with me not having much time to actually code it :)
11:44  * Lucifer_arma notes his sub simulator didn't get very far after he got what he really needed out of it, which was a review of trig
11:44 <DrJoeTron> hey trust me
11:44 <DrJoeTron> no rush
11:45 <DrJoeTron> my friends and i have been looking for a game like this
11:45 <DrJoeTron> what kind of textures are you looking for?
11:45 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, I'd like there to be at least the option to play with historical accuracy, and then add in the folklore and legends as actual parts of the game on top of that
11:45 <DrJoeTron> so a net play game with single player?
11:45 <Lucifer_arma> so you could run into the Flying Dutchman :)
11:45 <Lucifer_arma> no, many players
11:46 <Lucifer_arma> have you played Silent Service?
11:46 <DrJoeTron> no matter what
11:46 <DrJoeTron> ?
11:46 <DrJoeTron> no
11:46 <Lucifer_arma> you might dig up an emulator, I probably have a disk image hanging around somewhere
11:46 <DrJoeTron> but yeah, i think i can get a rag tag team of people to do research for this
11:46 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6483 /private/z-man/clio/ (instantiation.cpp instantiation.hpp): Added separate file for template functions that need to be defined AFTER all custom overloads of functions are declared. It needs to be included from the bottom of every cpp file with clio wrappers.
11:46 <DrJoeTron> because my friends = obsessed with pirates
11:46 <Lucifer_arma> there's two modes in Silent Service, you either just play scenarios where you attack convoys
11:47 <Lucifer_arma> the mode I want to really copy is the campaign mode.  In that, you move around the south pacific (ww2) and have encounters where you fight convoys
11:47 <Lucifer_arma> and you have to return periodically to port to refuel/rearm
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11:47 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6484 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files):
11:47 <armabot> armagetronad: Added separate file for template functions that need to be defined AFTER all custom overloads of functions are declared. It needs to be included from the bottom of every cpp file with clio wrappers.
11:47 <armabot> armagetronad: Worked around possible exception catching bug in GCC 4.1.1.
11:47 <DrJoeTr0n> hello?
11:47 <Lucifer_arma> I want to copy that mode, but have many ports, and you can do more in a port.  Like shack up and leave :)
11:47 <Lucifer_arma> hello?
11:47 <DrJoeTr0n> the fuck was that about
11:47 <Lucifer_arma> weird.  What's the last thing you saw me say?
11:48 <DrJoeTr0n> <Lucifer_arma> there's two modes in Silent Service, you either just play scenarios where you attack convoys
11:48 <Lucifer_arma> I want to copy that mode, but have many ports, and you can do more in a port.  Like shack up and leave :)
11:48 <DrJoeTr0n> my connection just severed 
11:48 <DrJoeTr0n> oh cool i didnt miss a thing
11:48 <Lucifer_arma> so you could just be a merchant, buy shit in one port and sell shit in another port and make money that way
11:48 <Lucifer_arma> you could be british navy, where you hunt pirates and probably merchants that aren't british
11:49 <Lucifer_arma> dont' know that I want to make Spanish ships available, except as pirates
11:49 <DrJoeTr0n> how about anything with the dtuch?
11:49 <Lucifer_arma> so you'd start as a merchant for a nation, probably pick from British, Spanish, Dutch, and French
11:49 <DrJoeTr0n> dutch*
11:49 <DrJoeTr0n> yeah, this is totally Pirates Gold
11:50 <DrJoeTr0n> i love it to death
11:50 <Lucifer_arma> if you want to be a pirate, you just start attacking people.  :)  I'd like it to be possible to be a secret pirate, where in port people think you're a regular merchant,
11:50 <Lucifer_arma> but at sea you act like a pirate, and if you do it well, you won't get any military hunting you down
11:50 <DrJoeTr0n> that sounds like it could an over powering element
11:51 <Lucifer_arma> so I was thinking if you shack up in a port so you can leave the game for awhile, when you return there'd be some computed chance that (if you're a pirate) you were arrested while you were gone and you escape when you return
11:51 <Lucifer_arma> the obvious way to avoid that would be to find an unsettled and preferably uncharted island to build your own base
11:51 <DrJoeTr0n> how about for mutiny
11:51 <Lucifer_arma> mutiny would happen if you're a bad captain.  :)
11:51 <DrJoeTr0n> like you have to divvy up the booty stolen
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> like, if you stay away from port too long, too cheap with your sailors, accumulate too much treasure on the ship (motivating a mutiny to steal the treasure)
11:52 <DrJoeTr0n> Thar was a mutiny! You were stranded on an island for (insert variable time)
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> well, handling time could be tricky.  If it were single player, no problem, but multiplayer, it gets hard to skip time for one player
11:52 <DrJoeTr0n> well you can make it so they actually wait for that long
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> but that's not fun :)
11:53 <DrJoeTr0n> don't be a bad pirate :)
11:53 <DrJoeTr0n> captain*
11:53 <DrJoeTr0n> arrr
11:53 <Lucifer_arma> probably more like make them take 3 turns off or something like that, then start them in Tortuga or Port Royal, and they can borrow money to outfit a new ship
11:53 <DrJoeTr0n> and make it so they can spectate or something
11:53 <DrJoeTr0n> ok
11:53 <DrJoeTr0n> Lucifer_arma 
11:53 <Lucifer_arma> and then their old ship becomes a computer-controlled NPC that they can try to hunt down :)
11:54  * Lucifer_arma points out that Tortuga and Port Royal were real towns, pirate towns
11:54 <DrJoeTr0n> http://67.37.179.152/Pirates%20Gold%20(U)%20%5B!%5D.bin take this from me
11:55 <DrJoeTr0n> bah
11:55 <DrJoeTr0n> oh good it worked
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> what kind of emulator do I need?  Sega Genesis?
11:55 <DrJoeTr0n> yes
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> will mame play it?
11:55 <DrJoeTr0n> im not sure
11:56 <DrJoeTr0n> but i can give you a list of genesis emulators
11:56 <Lucifer_arma> I'm sure I can google one up :)
11:56 <DrJoeTr0n> http://67.37.179.152/Pirates%20Gold%20(U)%20%5B!%5D.bin
11:56 <DrJoeTr0n> shit sorry
11:56 <Lucifer_arma> there's an emulator these days for just about everything you can want right now :)
11:56 <DrJoeTr0n> nah this is like the google of emulators
11:56 <DrJoeTr0n> http://www.zophar.net/unix/genesis.html
11:56 <DrJoeTr0n> they keep tabs on all of the emulators
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I think I've been there a few times :)
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> I occasionally play games that require emulators (like silent service)
11:58 <DrJoeTr0n> i strongly suggest gens
11:58 <DrJoeTr0n> the one for windows is rather amazing
11:58 <DrJoeTr0n> and thats what i use
11:58 <DrJoeTr0n> it even supports the bios files for 32X and Sega CD
11:58 <DrJoeTr0n> which both took months to find
11:59 <DrJoeTr0n> and involved me reformatting
11:59 <DrJoeTr0n> because my computer was devasted after lurking through the bowels of the internet
11:59 <DrJoeTr0n> but i got the files
11:59 <DrJoeTr0n> and still gotem :)
12:01 <Lucifer_arma> I'm installing dgen
12:01 <Lucifer_arma> also, uae and vice while I'm at it
12:02 <DrJoeTr0n> want a list of other genesis games? :)
12:02 <DrJoeTr0n> i have an entire folder for them
12:02 <Lucifer_arma> (Mandriva provides some emulator packages :)  )
12:02 <Lucifer_arma> don't really know, I never played much sega genesis, and to be honest, I'm only really interested in multiplayer network games these days
12:02 <DrJoeTr0n> ah
12:03 <DrJoeTr0n> i lived for sega genesis when i was in grade school
12:04  * DrJoeTr0n notes that if you use gens, you should be able to do network gaming if Kailera is made for linux ;d
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12:06 <Lucifer_arma> er, how do I control it?
12:06 <Lucifer_arma> every key I hit is making the game reset :/
12:06 <DrJoeTron> never used dgen
12:06 <DrJoeTron> im pretty sure you have to bind the keys
12:08 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, maybe I should install a different one.  :)  That's the one Mandriva had a package for, though
12:09 <DrJoeTron> dells come prepackaged with aol
12:11 <DrJoeTron> try out gens
12:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'll fool with it later.  It looks like I'll have to compile gens
12:14 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, need a server and client, obviously.  I think the server will run in a plain-jane python installation :)
12:14 <Lucifer_arma> client with pygame, that should be enough dependencies
12:15 <Lucifer_arma> which means I'll have to write the gui stuff myself, always a pain, but better than trying to convince qt to let me animate stuff in a frame where I'm going to end up wanting to use pygame anyway
12:16 <DrJoeTron> i see
12:17 <DrJoeTron> my problem my lack of knowledge about using anything else other than windows :/
12:17 <DrJoeTron> is*
12:17 <DrJoeTron> i've used mac OS too
12:17 <DrJoeTron> but meh
12:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, I use python so much because programs run more or less unmodified on other platforms :)
12:22 <Lucifer_arma> the server will probably require linux for awhile just to make my life a bit simpler, but the client will be written to run everywhere from the beginning, because it's useless to require linux for that
12:23 <Lucifer_arma> and then eventually, if I stick with it long enough and there's enough interest, the server will be turned into something that also runs everywhere
12:25 <DrJoeTron> but you DO plan on making a windows version?
12:25 <DrJoeTron> client at least?
12:46 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6485 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Adapted to clio changes
12:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6486 /private/z-man/clio/ (dataconversion.hpp factory.hpp objectwrapper.hpp): Fixed some cloning issues.
13:01 <Lucifer_arma> yes.  There wouldn't be any players without a windows version :)
13:01 <Lucifer_arma> I'll probably throw my win2k disk in a qemu session to build it until someone volunteers to handle that for me
13:02 <Lucifer_arma> pygame is SDL for python, and SDL is a cross-platform game library
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13:15 <madmax|pt> hello
13:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6487 /private/z-man/clio/ (dataconversion_base.hpp functioninfo.hpp objectwrapper.hpp): Improved error messages.
13:22 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma want another board? :D
13:25 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6488 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files): Unified calls to IoObject_clone into one utility function.
13:26 <DrJoeTron> It's a socket 478 dell motherboard 
13:26 <DrJoeTron> micro atx
13:30 <Lucifer_arma> I have a case for that that isn't too chewed up
13:30 <Lucifer_arma> what processor goes on socket 478?
13:30 <DrJoeTron> intel 
13:30 <DrJoeTron> im pretty sure its fried
13:30 <DrJoeTron> but
13:30 <DrJoeTron> im not sure antymore
13:31 <DrJoeTron> because of the fact the same problem happened to a the exact same board model i have for it
13:31 <DrJoeTron> and it just turned out it wasnt allowing me to mix ram speeds anymore
13:31 <DrJoeTron> as you can see im trying to get rid of my dell stuff
13:31 <DrJoeTron> but after being mishandled for 8 months
13:31 <DrJoeTron> im not sure if it will ever run again
13:31 <DrJoeTron> but hey
13:31 <DrJoeTron> also
13:32 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt have any real good way to mount it to the board
13:32 <DrJoeTron> ive had 3 dell computers in my life
13:32 <DrJoeTron> i've hated all of them
13:33 <DrJoeTron> the one thats left, was a free one after dell screwed up the order and gave us 2
13:33 <DrJoeTron> which turned into my brothers
13:33 <DrJoeTron> which i then built a computer for my brother when he decided one day he wanted to be a nerd.
13:33 <DrJoeTron> again.
13:34 <DrJoeTron> so now that computer is now the lobster cage.
13:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you send it, worst I'm gnig to do is toss it if I can't get it to work.  I am trying to avoid an accumulation of junk parts, but an accumulation of good parts is by definition good :)
13:37 <DrJoeTron> i would love to keep these parts
13:37 <DrJoeTron> but the fact of the matter is i dont have the space, nore the thought that i will ever put these to use in a next year or so
13:37 <DrJoeTron> so i dont want them.
13:38 <DrJoeTron> id much rather give them to someone who has actual thoughts in using them
13:41 <DrJoeTron> the mobo also has integrated graphic
13:41 <DrJoeTron> s
13:41 <DrJoeTron> you know what
13:41 <DrJoeTron> i wont burden you with it
13:41 <DrJoeTron> im 80% sure its crap
13:41 <DrJoeTron> its pretty much spideys pc
13:42 <DrJoeTron> so if you like crashing :p
13:42 <DrJoeTron> theres no agp slot
13:43 <DrJoeTron> im going to throw it out
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14:25 <guru3> vive k6
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14:36 <Lucifer_arma> I don't want a job so much as I want someone to just give me $200,000
14:37 <guru3> lol
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> socket programming looks fairly straightforward
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> I just need to open a listening socket and poll it
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> whenever someone connects, do accept() and add the new socket to the list to poll
14:40 <Lucifer_arma> and when a socket says it has data, send it to a higher layer to decode it, which will in turn stick it into the game's event system for processing by the main event loop
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, what should I call this pirate game?
15:06 <guru3> "The Pirate Game"
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15:31 <spidey> ...
15:31 <spidey> DrJoeTron, wtf you on about?
15:59 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6489 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Include aa_config.h in gArmagetron
16:03 <Lucifer_arma> how about "On the Spanish Main"?
16:34 <Lucifer_arma> do you ever want to respond to someone's request for help on the forums with "I don't think you're smart enough to do that"?
16:36 <spidey> LOL
16:36 <spidey> d00d
16:36 <spidey> i was playing halo, and there was this guy from spain there
16:37 <spidey> everytime i killed him he'd call me "a lagger" 
16:37 <spidey> my ping 67 his 230
16:37 <spidey> ;x
16:37 <Lucifer_arma> pot, kettle?
16:37 <Lucifer_arma> I made a grave mistake today already
16:37 <spidey> ?
16:37 <Lucifer_arma> I read about socket programming until it sounded easy, now I have to start on my pirate game
16:38 <spidey> you forget to feed luke-jr ?
16:38 <Lucifer_arma> that wouldn't be a mistake
16:38 <spidey> lol
16:45  * wrtlprnft throws luke-jr a smelly but standarized fish, RFC 4242
16:45 <wrtlprnft> omg, that RRC actually exists
16:48  * spidey goes to install hidden & dangerous
16:48 <spidey> it's where luke-jr hides and i hunt him
16:59 <Lucifer_arma> is there something wrong with liking the music in a scooby doo show?
17:04 <spidey> yes
17:04 <spidey> phag
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17:21 <spidey> joo r queer
17:21 <Lucifer_arma> spidey's been playing too many fps games, he's turning into an fps smeghead
17:22 <spidey> LOL
17:22 <spidey> what's the difference from that, and turn based smegheads? :D
17:23 <Lucifer_arma> turn-based smegheads have time to think about what they're writing?
17:24 <luke-jr_work> lol
17:24 <spidey> lol
17:24 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work: did you ever get scorched3d working?
17:24 <spidey> scortched3d anyone? :D
17:24 <spidey> or
17:24 <spidey> as i say it
17:24 <spidey> S3D
17:24 <spidey> because it's a big word
17:25 <Lucifer_arma> and spidey doesn't use big words
17:25 <spidey> indeed
17:25 <spidey> they're to compecation!
17:25 <Lucifer_arma> can't play right now, working some more on my resume
17:26 <spidey> luke-jr, tomorrow
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> I had a headhunter tell me shit was missing that was supposed to be there, so I'm having to go back over it
17:26 <Lucifer_arma> I found Dice's txt exporter sucks, lots of shit was cut off
17:27 <spidey> dddddddddeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr
17:27 <spidey> actually now i'm thinking about it
17:28 <spidey> fps smegheads consist of 4 phrases  "you're a noob,you use aimbots,you hacker hacker, you cheatter"
17:29 <Lucifer_arma> what about "you lagger"?
17:29 <spidey> only if they have a 200 ping
17:30 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6490 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files): Added lots of #undef statements for temporary macros.
17:30 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: it froze my PC
17:35 <Lucifer_arma> aww, too bad, it's a fun game
17:41 <spidey> luke-jr, ping
17:41 <spidey> was you playing fullscreen or windowed??
17:41 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:41 <luke-jr_work> windowed
17:41 <spidey> try it fullscreen
17:42 <luke-jr_work> fullscreen is even slower
17:42 <spidey> it crashed me doing windowed
17:42 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:42 <spidey> joe has problems playing windowed mode to
17:42 <luke-jr_work> it was only like 10 fps in windowed 640x480
17:42 <spidey> hm
17:42 <luke-jr_work> I don't want to know what would happen at fullscreen res
17:42 <spidey> i play at 800x600
17:43 <spidey> and it runs fine
17:45 <spidey> it's sad when even spell check can't help me
17:45 <spidey> i'm hopeless
17:49 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: any reason you keep around gRotator in the clio branch? It never worked (I was hoping for self_destructo to do some work, I only set up some basic stuff), and if there's scripting it'll be obsolete anyways
17:49 <wrtlprnft> *Io branch
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17:53 <[dlh]> I thought I deleted your code in the Io branch. The one there now is the one we'll use with scripting.
17:53 <wrtlprnft> hmm
17:53 <wrtlprnft> it still has the wrong #define / #ifndef, i'll fix that
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> I don't have any problems running it fullscreen or windowed
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it's because I use the binary nvidia drivers :)
17:55 <spidey> ?
17:55 <luke-jr_work> evil!
17:55 <spidey> the ones luke call immoral?
17:55 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6491 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/tron/gRotation.h: Fixed wrong #ifndef and #define names (ARMAGETRON_COCKPIT_H → ARMAGETRON_ROTATION_H), a leftover from copy&pasting.
17:55  * Lucifer_arma smiles
17:55 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: you Bush-ite!
17:56 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: now you fed luke-jr_work 
17:56 <Lucifer_arma> I prefer to think of it as "baited"
17:56 <spidey> lol
17:56 <spidey> i'ma install macosx :D
17:57 <luke-jr_work> ...
17:57 <spidey> the new mac os x can be installed on a pc, since the intel mac stuff
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a brush my teeth, then fire up amarok.  The scooby doo music is stuck in my head and getting annoying
17:57 <spidey> there's ways
17:57 <spidey> just hard
17:58 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: another question, should i copy the stuff in private/z-man/clio somewhere to compile? If I try to compile the Io branch it complains about a missing state.hpp, and that file is in private/z-man/clio
17:58 <luke-jr_work> most OS X systems are PCs...
17:58 <spidey> on a x86 platform
17:59 <luke-jr_work> newer Macs run x86
17:59 <luke-jr_work> but why would you want x86? :p
17:59 <spidey> http://uneasysilence.com/os-x-proven-hacked-and-running-on-an-ordinary-pc/
18:01 <[dlh]> wrtlprnft: You should add that directory to your include flags, and you need to link against clio. For the Mac OS X project I just added all the clio files.
18:01 <wrtlprnft> hmm, I'll try, thanks.
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Rackham  <-- the pirate whose flag is now the flag of the Luciferians
18:08 <Lucifer_arma> it's also his flag that's on the stickers my wife bought me for my car
18:09 <spidey> lol
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> I like that flag :)
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> his story is actually pretty interesting, too
18:11 <spidey> i can picture
18:11 <spidey> "lucifer in his pirate ship fighting modern naval ships"
18:11 <spidey> "oop, luci got pwned"
18:12 <luke-jr_work> how is his flag any different?
18:13 <spidey> joo luke r tEh sux
18:13  * luke-jr_work pwns spidey 
18:13 <spidey> psh
18:21  * Lucifer_arma points out that pirates generally ran their own flags, there isn't any standard pirate flag
18:22 <spidey> pirates suck, human eating zombies own
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> which is why luke-jr_work (hi there!) could never be a pirate
18:22 <luke-jr_work> civ has one
18:22 <spidey> luci
18:22 <spidey> can i make a unit
18:22 <spidey> it'll be
18:22 <spidey> "zombies"
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> civ has a generic barb flag that's intended to work as barbs for 5000 years
18:22 <spidey> future viral warfare :D
18:23 <Lucifer_arma> heh
18:23 <Lucifer_arma> give a tech tree with it :)
18:23 <spidey> hmm
18:23 <spidey> k
18:23 <Lucifer_arma> you probably want to start at genetic engineering :)
18:23 <spidey> yea, was thinking that
18:24 <luke-jr_work> heh
18:24 <luke-jr_work> zombies should preexist it
18:24 <luke-jr_work> there's some kind of natural zombie poison thing
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> leprosy?
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> I mentioned that I added balloons, didn't I?
18:25 <wrtlprnft> great, now i'm getting a compile error inside io
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> I found a good balloon graphic on openclipart.org and made a balloon unit
18:25 <spidey> lol
18:26 <spidey> maybe
18:26 <[dlh]> wrtlprnft: what is the error?
18:26 <spidey> start with chemistry
18:26 <Lucifer_arma> 0 attack, 1 defense, carries two units and has air vision (2 squares)
18:26 <spidey> and have a extra tech or two that you "have" to get before genetic engineering
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> moves slowly.  Couldn't figure out how to make it a trireme, the trireme flag invokes other rules besides the movement thing
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> but since it's an air unit, at the time you can build it you're pretty safe to move it through enemy territory to scout, which is what balloons were used for
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
18:27 <armabot> pong
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18:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*
18:31 <spidey> lol
18:33 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: http://wrtlprnft.pastebin.ca/275593
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> what was that all about?  That happened to joe earlier too
18:36 <spidey> ??
18:37 <spidey> freenode drops users after a certain amount of time
18:37 <spidey> longest i've been connected is 2 weeks
18:37 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: you mean armabot? that's the #herald you added ages ago
18:38 <wrtlprnft> 03:12 <Lucifer_arma> #herald add Lucifer_arma "Lucifer_arma: I'm so happy to see you back!  *kiss*"
18:38 <Lucifer_arma> no, I mean getting cut off from freenode and then logging back in, with no Lucifer_arma_ name
18:38 <wrtlprnft> 18:29 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@adsl-64-218-161-71.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
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18:38 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't close the connection
18:38 <wrtlprnft> maybe you were disconnected long enough so you timed out?
18:39 <wrtlprnft> Remote closed the connection != normal quit
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18:39 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 21 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal]
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18:40 <wrtlprnft> that's what you should see normally
18:40 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, if "Freenode" disconnects you
18:40 <spidey> your name is dropped too
18:40 <spidey> makes sense?
18:40 <wrtlprnft> i don't think Lucifer_arma was online for two weeks
18:40 <spidey> so?
18:41 <spidey> that doesn't stop freenode from refreshing him
18:41 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter that much :)
18:41 <Lucifer_arma> people get dropped all the time for weird reasons
18:41 <spidey> i was just stating the longest i've managed to stay connected is 2 weeks
18:41 <spidey> :D
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18:57 <spidey> i got tired of a blare of the monitor
18:58 <spidey> so i put a blanket over the window
18:58 <spidey> :D
19:10 <luke-jr_work> glare*
19:13 <spidey> ...
19:13 <spidey> typo
19:28 <deja_vu_> *g*
19:42 <spidey> deja_vu_, 
19:42 <deja_vu_> spidey: 
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19:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6492 /private/z-man/clio/stateregistrator.cpp: Fixed initialization order problem.
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19:49 <spidey> deja_vu_, 
19:49 <spidey> deja_vu_, 
19:49 <spidey> deja_vu_, 
19:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6493 /private/z-man/clio/dataconversion_base.hpp: Even with pass by pointer, C++ created objects now stay owned by C++.
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19:53 <z-man-work> grr
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> grr?
19:57 <z-man-work> it renamed me
20:01 <Lucifer_arma> oh
20:11 <spidey> lol
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21:12 <spidey> hm
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22:55 <DrJoeTron> spidey pong?
22:56 <spidey> DrJoeTron, dong
22:56 <DrJoeTron> get bf2
22:56 <spidey> i can't play it...
22:56 <spidey> not right now
22:56 <spidey> i told you not till early janurary
22:58 <DrJoeTron> hurry up and wait? :D
23:00 <spidey> heh
23:01 <spidey> Vanhayes, DrJoeTron Lucifer_arma  ping
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> what?!?
23:08 <spidey> s3d? 
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> not for me, it'll have to be later--much later, like after everyone goes to bed, assuming I don't go to bed too
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's not for lack of want, though.  :)
23:10 <spidey> lol
23:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6494 /private/z-man/clio/forcesemicolon.hpp: Using empty anonymous enum to force semicolons now.
23:15 <luke-jr_work> spidey: f4a?
23:15 <spidey> ??
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23:17 <spidey> luke-jr_work, '
23:18 <luke-jr_work> f4a!
23:19 <spidey> ...
23:19 <luke-jr_work> spidey: spidey 
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> freeciv four armagetron?
23:19 <spidey> for?
23:19 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma gets the prize
23:19 <spidey> wtf's that??
23:20 <spidey> and what about it
23:20 <luke-jr_work> for the best meaning to 3 random characters
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> it means that if you develop gunpowder, you can play on pig's server
23:20 <spidey> and why do you keep making xchat go hey dummy look at me
23:20 <luke-jr_work> spidey: 
23:20 <luke-jr_work> haha
23:20 <luke-jr_work> Pig Sty (Wonder)
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> XMPP Integration (Wonder)
23:21 -!- deja_vu_ [n=deja_vu@p5092106D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["leaving"]
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> last tech you can get is "Mutual Agreement on Everything"
23:21 <spidey> wtf's xmpp anyways
23:21 <spidey> my p2 has it
23:22 <spidey> luke-jr_work, what the fuck about it?
23:22 <luke-jr_work> your p2 has xmpp?
23:22 <luke-jr_work> wtf
23:22 <spidey> i think
23:22 <spidey> lemme check
23:23 <spidey> MMX
23:23 <spidey> :D
23:23 <luke-jr_work> O.o
23:23  * Lucifer_arma whacks spidey with a clue bat
23:24  * Lucifer_arma shoots spidey with a clue musket
23:24  * Lucifer_arma slashes spidey with a clue light saber
23:24  * Lucifer_arma runs spidey over with a clue light cycle
23:24  * spidey runs Lucifer_arma over with a i don't give a fuck car
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> poser
23:25 <spidey> loser
23:25  * Lucifer_arma unleashes an unending spiel of rhetoric that results in spidey having third degree burns all over his body
23:26 <luke-jr_work> too bad quotes need to be single line
23:27  * spidey doesn't
23:27  * spidey know
23:27  * spidey what
23:27  * spidey you
23:27  * spidey mean
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> #q
23:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
23:28 <luke-jr_work> spidey: my 286 has XML! :p
23:29 <spidey> i still don't know what you're talking about
23:29 <spidey> ...#quote add something "#quote get someothernumber"
23:29 <luke-jr_work> ..
23:30 <spidey> ..
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> my calculator has multiplication!
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> #q
23:31 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
23:32 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: stop that
23:32 <DrJoeTron> no way
23:33 <luke-jr_work> >:O
23:33 <luke-jr_work> or else I make your P2 have XMPP!
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> #q
23:33 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #13: "<hang3r> How many microbuscity's does it take to change a light bulb?" (added by hang3r at 07:41 AM, March 31, 2006)
23:33  * Lucifer_arma still wants to know the answer to that question
23:34 <DrJoeTron> hey, hey luke-jr 
23:34 <DrJoeTron> guess what...
23:34 <DrJoeTron> :)
23:34 <spidey> heh
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> #q
23:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #9: "he eats a bowl of wheat stocks and small pebbles -- Okgo" (added by n54 at 04:28 PM, March 29, 2006)
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> #herald
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> #list herald
23:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: add, change, default, get, and remove
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> #herald remove
23:38 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> you guys are making too much noise!
23:40 <DrJoeTron> pwns don't working against me
23:40 <DrJoeTron> they don't exsist
23:40 <spidey> hmm
23:41 <spidey> this thing works
23:41 <spidey> i've smoked 1 1/2 cigarettes today
23:41 <spidey> usually it's a pack a day
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> just woke up?
23:41 <spidey> no
23:41 <spidey> i woke up at 8 am
23:41 <spidey> it's some patch thing my grandma's making me use
23:41 <spidey> lol
23:41 <luke-jr_work> lol
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> "where can I find good deals in Austria?"
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, in austria?
23:42 <spidey> lol
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> oops
23:43 <spidey> luke-jr, 
23:43 <spidey> you suck
23:43 <luke-jr_work> u
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> nobody thawed out the chicken I'm supposed to cook tonight
23:43 <spidey> luke-jr, 
23:43 <spidey> you suck
23:43 <luke-jr_work> u
23:43 <spidey> luke-jr, you suck Lucifer_arma's balls
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> they don't fit in his mouth
23:44 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
23:44 <spidey> lol
23:44 <spidey> hm
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> who's the idiot that gave luke op here?
23:44 <spidey> heh
23:44 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by luke-jr_work [User terminated!]
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23:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_work] by luke-jr_work
23:45 <spidey> my /join button says you suck ass
23:45 <spidey> :)
23:45 <luke-jr_work> my /kick button said that was uncalled for
23:45 <spidey> you still suck Lucifer_arma's balls!
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&engine=2&dockey=xml/0/6/06ae9a4f37d1279fb158a9c99481a317@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> can anybody translate that page for me?  I don't think it was written in english...
23:46 <spidey> ???
23:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
23:46 <spidey> it looks fine to me
23:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by luke-jr_work
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> it's like, I know all the words used to write that page, but the way they're strung together doesn't make any sense
23:47 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr_work] by luke-jr_work
23:47 <luke-jr_work> heh
23:47 <spidey> maybe because i speak spidish anyways
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23:47 <spidey> 'er
23:47 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:47 <spidey> wrong one
23:47 <spidey> i hit /cycle instead of /ping luke-jr_work
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23:48 <spidey> pwned
23:48 <spidey> rofl
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23:48 <spidey> look at that, i don't even have to kick luke-jr, freenode does it for me!
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23:48 <spidey> <spidey> look at that, i don't even have to kick luke-jr, freenode does it for me!
23:49  * Lucifer_arma has left this server (terrorists have attacked my balls!)
23:49 <luke-jr_work> I'd say what happened, but I think it'd enable you all to crash Konversation on me
23:49 <luke-jr_work> #last --nolimit
23:49 <armabot> luke-jr_work: [23:52:03] <luke-jr_work> I'd say what happened, but I think it'd enable you all to crash Konversation on me, [23:51:58] * Lucifer_arma has left this server (terrorists have attacked my balls!), [23:51:52] <spidey> <spidey> look at that, i don't even have to kick luke-jr, freenode does it for me!, [23:51:40] <spidey> look at that, i don't even have to kick luke-jr, freenode does it for me!, [23:51:21] (15 more messages)
23:49 <luke-jr_work> @more
23:49 <luke-jr_work> #more
23:49 <armabot> luke-jr_work: <spidey> rofl, [23:51:20] <spidey> pwned, [23:50:52] <spidey> i hit /cycle instead of /ping luke-jr_work, [23:50:29] <spidey> wrong one, [23:50:28] <luke-jr_work> ..., [23:50:27] <spidey> 'er, [23:50:04] <spidey> maybe because i speak spidish anyways, [23:50:02] <luke-jr_work> heh, [23:49:52] <Lucifer_arma> it's like, I know all the words used to write that page, but the way they're strung together (14 more messages)
23:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, that's not terrorists
23:49 <spidey> that's luke-jr 
23:49 <spidey> he's jealous you didn't give him a peice
23:49 <spidey> ;
23:49 <spidey> ;x
23:52 <spidey> luke-jr, what version of Konversation are you using?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> nothing
23:53 <spidey> pwned
23:57 <DrJoeTron> shutup spidey
23:57 <spidey> eat shit :D
23:57 <DrJoeTron> pwned is not a word!
23:58 <spidey> it is so
23:58 <DrJoeTron> see thats better than "PWNED ROFL ^_^ KEKEKE"
23:58 <spidey> you just don't speak spidish
23:58 <DrJoeTron> i dont speak 14 year old :d
23:58 <spidey> but it is a word in spidish
23:58 <DrJoeTron> derived from 14 year olds :V
23:58 <spidey> yes
23:58 <spidey> but
23:59 <spidey> that doesn't alter the fact...it is a word in spidish
23:59 <DrJoeTron> spidish: anorther way to talk like a 14 year old :)
23:59 <luke-jr_work> hm, DrJoeTron acting mature
23:59 <luke-jr_work> :o

Log from 2006-12-12:
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00:01 <DrJoeTron> because im such a wild, rowdy. rapscallion, every other time i speak.
00:02 <DrJoeTron> i just hate that type of talk
00:03 <DrJoeTron> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
00:03 <DrJoeTron> :)
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> #alias add rules echo A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
00:08 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> #rules
00:08 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
00:08 <luke-jr_work> you should rephrase it..
00:09 <Lucifer_arma> no, I *could* rephrase it
00:09 <Lucifer_arma> could != should
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> what I *should* do is clean my kitchen and cook dinner
00:10 <DrJoeTron> haha
00:10 <DrJoeTron> i got that from the SAclopedia 
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> The student could easily have afforded to pay the measly $290 for Microsoft Word to write his thesis, legally. After all the selfish little filcher was paying over $14,000 for his education! Although this law prevented a hard-working student from graduating, much more should have been done.
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.piratesinfo.com/detail/detail.php?article_id=77
00:15 <luke-jr_work> wtf
00:17 <DrJoeTron> i love chicago style popcorn :)
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> #g 0.05 * 3000
00:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.05 * 3,000 = 150
00:18 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: are you still working on ACME?
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> you love popcorn on a thick, wheat crust with cheese under the sauce?
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work: not right at this moment
00:18 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: is there a working version?
00:18 <Lucifer_arma> I want to rewrite it with pyqt4
00:19 <luke-jr_work> pyqt4 is broken
00:19 <luke-jr_work> it fails to emerge
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> only whatever was in cvs, which worked, but only worked for a beta dtd
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't mean it's broken, it means you're using a worthless distribution
00:19 <DrJoeTron> chicago style popcorn is a mix of buttered popcorn, caramel corn, and cheese corn.
00:19 <Lucifer_arma> so it's not like chicago style pizza then?
00:19 <DrJoeTron> not at all
00:20 <DrJoeTron> this is the type of popcorn god would eat if he d(oes)id) exsist
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> then it sucks?
00:20 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: you make a good point, but I'm not going to fix it just so I can use ACME :p
00:20 <DrJoeTron> its powerful and fearsome
00:20 <Lucifer_arma> god only likes sucky things, that's how we know he loves luke-jr_work (hi there!) 
00:20 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
00:21 <DrJoeTron> god loves all loaded walltet carrying citizens ;)
00:21 <DrJoeTron> wallet*
00:24 <DrJoeTron> #rules
00:25 <DrJoeTron> #kazaam!
00:26 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
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00:39 <DrJoeTron> anyone one want to tell me the command for adjusting the ammounts of turns in a second?
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00:59 <Lucifer_arma_> CYCLE_DELAY ?
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01:00 <Lucifer_arma> quick, someone send me $200,000 before I go to hell!
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> GOD WILL TAKE AWAY MY EYESIGHT if you don't SEND ME YOUR MONEY!
01:00  * Lucifer_arma wonders if there's any money in being an irc evangelist
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01:27 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:29 <ghableska> ...
01:31 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (6:12 PM CST on December 11, 2006). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa. 
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01:37 <A7XBean> Hello Everybody
01:38 <A7XBean> ok ill just leave then
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01:40 <DrJoeTron> good
01:40 <ghableska> :P
01:40 <DrJoeTron> im glad everyone keeps quiet whenever there is stranger danger.
01:40 <ghableska> yep
01:41 <ghableska> although IRC is usually quiet already...
01:41 <DrJoeTron> oooh bbl dinner time
01:46 <madmax|pt> #weather lppt
01:46 <armabot> madmax|pt: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 46.4°F (12:30 AM WET on December 12, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa. 
01:46 <madmax|pt> #46.4f in 
01:46 <madmax|pt> #46.4f in c
01:46 <madmax|pt> argh
01:46 <madmax|pt> #g 46.4f in c
01:46 <armabot> madmax|pt: 46.4 degrees Fahrenheit = 8 degrees Celsius
01:46 <madmax|pt> :S
01:51 <madmax|pt> gnight
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02:09 <DrJoeTron> ko
02:09 <DrJoeTron> ho kai
02:09 <DrJoeTron> ghableska what do you have on steam?
02:11 <DrJoeTron> Yes!
02:11 <DrJoeTron> amd finally took the lead over intel on the system survey
02:12 <ghableska> DrJoeTron, nothing :P
02:13 <DrJoeTron> http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html
02:13 <ghableska> well, no full games
02:13 <DrJoeTron> ah
02:13 <ghableska> lots of demos :P
02:13 <DrJoeTron> :( i wanted someone to play hl2 DM with
02:13 <ghableska> ask spidey :)
02:13 <DrJoeTron> spideys computer cant handle hl2
02:14 <ghableska> haha
02:14 <DrJoeTron> well i mean hl2 really is sort of a bench mark still
02:14 <ghableska> yeah
02:14 <DrJoeTron> if your pc can run hl2 ok, you can run just about anything still
02:14 <ghableska> the demo runs great for me
02:14 <spidey> ..
02:14 <spidey> i couldn't play it off steam
02:14 <spidey> though i can't play alot of demos off steam
02:15 <DrJoeTron> you cant play hl2 without steam
02:15 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: is css worth purchasing?
02:15 <DrJoeTron> Valve made hl2 and steam
02:15 <spidey> no
02:15 <ghableska> no?
02:15 <DrJoeTron> hmmm... ghableska 
02:15 <DrJoeTron> tough question
02:15 <ghableska> O_o
02:15 <DrJoeTron> have you ever played CS ever?
02:16 <ghableska> no :P
02:16 <DrJoeTron> ok
02:16 <ghableska> wish there was a demo for it...
02:16 <spidey> no he ever has ever
02:16 <DrJoeTron> you're going to either LOVE IT or HATE IT
02:16 <ghableska> oh?
02:16 <DrJoeTron> and that love is ever lasting
02:16 <ghableska> haha
02:16 <spidey> don't ask joe questions
02:16 <ghableska> I dunno, I've never loathed a video game before: P
02:16 <ghableska> *:P
02:16 <spidey> he loves every game when he plays it
02:16 <DrJoeTron> you're going to bitch about it, but have this unconditional love for it
02:16 <spidey> then he changes his mind
02:17 <spidey> then he changes his mind again
02:17 <ghableska> haha
02:17 <spidey> then...
02:17 <spidey> again
02:17 <DrJoeTron> thats how it is with CS:S
02:17 <ghableska> heh
02:17 <DrJoeTron> when i got it i played it none stop for months
02:17 <DrJoeTron> so in all reality
02:17 <DrJoeTron> buy it
02:17 <DrJoeTron> its alot of fun
02:17 <ghableska> I saw a gmod10 css combo
02:17 <DrJoeTron> garrys mod is a lot of fun
02:18 <spidey> css is easy to hack
02:18 <spidey> they keep all there stuff client side
02:18 <DrJoeTron> yup
02:18 <DrJoeTron> and its blatently obvious
02:18 <DrJoeTron> and they are usually kicked instantly
02:18 <spidey> heh
02:19 <DrJoeTron> besides, its the most popular online game still
02:19 <ghableska> oh
02:19 <spidey> i refuse to play a game  with more aimbotters than halo
02:19 <spidey> it pisses me off
02:19 <spidey> then i kill them
02:19 <ghableska> :P
02:19 <spidey> then i get botted for the rest of the round
02:19 <DrJoeTron> see spidey of all the tmes i've played
02:19 <DrJoeTron> ive ran into a cheater like...4 times
02:20 <spidey> knowing my luck
02:20 <DrJoeTron> besides if you're caught they ban your steam id
02:20 <spidey> i'll run into one in every server i join
02:20 <DrJoeTron> its not as big as a cess pool as you think
02:20 <DrJoeTron> knowing you you'll accuse anyone who is doing good, a cheater.
02:20 <spidey> i love joining games that use punk buster
02:20 <spidey> and hear
02:20 <spidey> "hacker!@"
02:21 <spidey> like every 2 minutes
02:21 <DrJoeTron> steam doesnt use punkbuster
02:21 <spidey> ...
02:21 <ghableska> I was accused of hacking while playing BF2142 :P
02:21 <DrJoeTron> ;)
02:21 <spidey> steam isn't a game
02:21 <ghableska> it uses VAC2
02:21 <DrJoeTron> i was too
02:21 <spidey> punkbuster runs aside a game
02:21 <spidey> it's a server/client type thing
02:21 <DrJoeTron> spidey, most people associate steam with every valve game
02:21 <ghableska> it was funny, because this guy camped in the same spot every time
02:21 <ghableska> and I got so many points :D
02:21 <DrJoeTron> haha
02:22 <spidey> lol
02:22 <DrJoeTron> BF2 uses punkbuster
02:22 <spidey> ghableska, get halo demo
02:22 <spidey> ;p
02:22 <DrJoeTron> its retarded
02:22 <ghableska> I did...two years ago or something
02:22 <DrJoeTron> i hate how flawed it is
02:22 <spidey> ;/
02:22 <ghableska> it was fun for a while
02:22 <spidey> well
02:22 <spidey> get it again ;p
02:22 <ghableska> nah
02:22 <DrJoeTron> ghableska go with CS
02:23 <ghableska> yeah!
02:23 <DrJoeTron> CS:S is loads of fun
02:23 <ghableska> screw halo
02:23 <DrJoeTron> thats my boy!
02:23 <spidey> screw you!
02:23 <spidey> i hope you fall on your head! (again)
02:23 <spidey> :D
02:23 <DrJoeTron> ghableska you know how CS is played right?
02:23 <ghableska> round based
02:23 <ghableska> not spawn?
02:23 <DrJoeTron> one hit you're dead, watch the round end
02:23 <DrJoeTron> wel
02:23 <DrJoeTron> not one hit your dead
02:24 <DrJoeTron> depends on the gun :p
02:24 <DrJoeTron> also
02:24 <DrJoeTron> something i want to try
02:24 <ghableska> heh
02:24 <DrJoeTron> they just added a dynamic weapons list
02:24 <ghableska> yeah, I heard about that
02:24 <ghableska> dynamic pricing
02:24 <DrJoeTron> i hear kevlar and helmet is like $1000  and just kevlar is like 200
02:25 <ghableska> O_o
02:25 <ghableska> well, headshots aren't good :P
02:25 <DrJoeTron> that wont protect you
02:25 <DrJoeTron> especially when people use the AWP
02:25 <DrJoeTron> god that thing is so cheap
02:25 <ghableska> AWP?
02:25 <DrJoeTron> i love the console too
02:26 <DrJoeTron> when you bring it up, it tells you where you were shot and for how much
02:26 <ghableska> messing around with the console was fun in hl2
02:26 <DrJoeTron> and how much you did to them
02:26 <ghableska> (demo)
02:26 <DrJoeTron> it is!
02:26 <ghableska> making zombies fight combine soldiers
02:26 <DrJoeTron> the console is so fun on hl2
02:26 <DrJoeTron> my favorite thing was after beating the game
02:26 <DrJoeTron> warp to the citadel and then go back to first chapter
02:27 <DrJoeTron> and starting off with the super gravity gun
02:27 <DrJoeTron> so i could rip things off of walls and hurl people across the room
02:27 <DrJoeTron> that never gets old
02:27 <ghableska> ^_^
02:29 <DrJoeTron> CS:S is 20 bucks
02:29 <DrJoeTron> what can you lose?
02:29 <spidey> 20 bucks
02:30 <ghableska> 20 bucks isn't much
02:30 <DrJoeTron> it really isnt
02:30 <ghableska> for a game which never really ends...
02:30 <DrJoeTron> especially for when i got the game
02:30 <DrJoeTron> well...
02:30 <ghableska> hmm?
02:30 <DrJoeTron> i technically got it for free
02:30 <ghableska> O_O
02:30 <ghableska> How?
02:30 <DrJoeTron> because it comes with HL2
02:30 <ghableska> oh
02:30 <DrJoeTron> if you buy it at the store
02:30 <ghableska> how much did you pay for Hl2?
02:31 <DrJoeTron> but i bought it for like 60 bucks
02:31 <DrJoeTron> and it came on 5 CD's
02:31 <DrJoeTron> it was HUGE
02:31 <ghableska> O_O
02:31 <DrJoeTron> needless to say one of the cd's has a crack at the end
02:31 <DrJoeTron> disc 3 i think
02:31 <DrJoeTron> so i cant use them anymor
02:31 <ghableska> I hope they put them on DVD's now, lol.
02:31 <DrJoeTron> and this is exactly why steam is cool
02:31 <DrJoeTron> they do
02:32 <DrJoeTron> but that cost more
02:32 <DrJoeTron> but they gave you half life: source
02:32 <ghableska> Ah.
02:32 <DrJoeTron> after you type the CD key into your steam account
02:32 <DrJoeTron> its saved on it forever
02:32 <DrJoeTron> so if you lose the discs and need to install
02:33 <DrJoeTron> just click the game and it will install the game from their database
02:33 <ghableska> cool
02:33 <DrJoeTron> its awesome
02:33 <DrJoeTron> the games are huge though
02:33 <DrJoeTron> so its an endeavor
02:33 <ghableska> yeah
02:33 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
02:33 <ghableska> especially if you have a slow internet connection
02:33 <DrJoeTron> nah
02:33 <DrJoeTron> doesnt even matter sometimes if its a day when a game launches
02:33 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@a0204.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["⌘Q"]
02:33 <DrJoeTron> their servers are stockpiled
02:34 <DrJoeTron> its not even close to as bad as when half life 2 was launched
02:34 <GodTodd> goddamn you joe
02:35 <ghableska> ...?
02:35 <DrJoeTron> ghableska ok
02:35 <DrJoeTron> best buy has halflife 2 game of the year addition
02:35 <DrJoeTron> for 30 bucks
02:35 <DrJoeTron> if you buy that
02:35 <DrJoeTron> you get hl2 dm (which is free no matter what) and CS:S
02:36 <ghableska> hmm
02:36 <ghableska> what's hl2 dm like?
02:36 <DrJoeTron> loads of fun
02:36 <DrJoeTron> especially with the gravity gun
02:36  * ghableska doesn't really like dm
02:36 <DrJoeTron> i dont either
02:37 <DrJoeTron> but we have fun with the settings and build stuff
02:37 <DrJoeTron> and then blow each other up
02:37 <ghableska> I'd prefer more team-oriented games
02:37 <ghableska> haha
02:37 <ghableska> well, gmod is multiplayer too, right?
02:37 <DrJoeTron> well i mean
02:37 <DrJoeTron> hl2 dm is free if you buy hl2 anyways
02:37 <DrJoeTron> because its like, the 2nd mod for it
02:37 <ghableska> oh
02:37 <DrJoeTron> garrys mod is extremely laggy online
02:37 <ghableska> really?
02:37 <DrJoeTron> ungodly
02:38 <DrJoeTron> even on a lan
02:38 <DrJoeTron> its horrid
02:38 <ghableska> haha
02:39 <spidey> your computer just sucks
02:39 <ghableska> spidey: look who's talking
02:39 <DrJoeTron> ghab can run hl2
02:39 <DrJoeTron> so he doesnt need to worry
02:40 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: ever played in a 64 player titan server? XD
02:40 <DrJoeTron> but yeah
02:40 <spidey> my computer runs what ~i want~
02:40 <spidey> not these bajillion fuckin games joe wants me to get
02:40 <DrJoeTron> ghableska garrys mod's discrimination knows no bounds
02:41 <DrJoeTron> hl2 and bf2 = bajillion
02:41 <ghableska> O_o
02:41 <spidey> ugh
02:41 <spidey> lets see
02:41 <spidey> this is just a few
02:41 <spidey> warrock
02:41 <spidey> guild wars
02:41 <ghableska> I want portal :-/
02:41 <DrJoeTron> wait
02:41 <spidey> bf2
02:41 <ghableska> warrock sucks
02:41 <spidey> annd the bf's
02:41 <spidey> what else
02:41 <DrJoeTron> someone else got you to play warrock
02:41 <spidey> hl
02:41 <spidey> hl2
02:41 <spidey> bs
02:41 <spidey> you did
02:41 <spidey> you got me and hayes
02:41 <spidey> not stfu
02:41 <ghableska> and spidey got me :P
02:42 <DrJoeTron> haha
02:42 <DrJoeTron> guild wars i still play
02:42 <ghableska> I miss Bf2.
02:42 <DrJoeTron> you had bf2?
02:42 <ghableska> demo :P
02:42 <DrJoeTron> ah
02:42 <DrJoeTron> Mount up!
02:42 <ghableska> it took skill to fly the airplanes/ helis
02:42 <ghableska> "Clear!:
02:42 <DrJoeTron> You'll live buddy! Now get back to the fight!
02:43 <ghableska> hahaha
02:43 <DrJoeTron> Enemy Boat Spotted
02:43 <ghableska> >_>
02:43 <DrJoeTron> Enemy Boat Spotted Enemy Boat Spotted Enemy Boat Spotted Enemy Boat Spotted Enemy Boat Spotted Enemy Boat Spotted 
02:43 <ghableska> I hated those commanders
02:43 <ghableska> they disabled spam protection and wouldn't shut up
02:43 <DrJoeTron> i loved watching the people go and fly the plane upside down into the water
02:43 <ghableska> lol
02:44 <DrJoeTron> while they kill the entire team in the process for it
02:44 <ghableska> everyone waited around for the planes to spawn
02:44 <DrJoeTron> of course
02:44 <DrJoeTron> btw
02:44 <DrJoeTron> that map
02:44 <DrJoeTron> gulf of oman
02:44 <ghableska> hehe
02:44 <DrJoeTron> one of THE best maps on  their
02:44 <ghableska> I liked the crane :)
02:45 <ghableska> if you had a squad leader go up really high with the blackhawk, you could spawn from him and parachute ANYWHERE
02:45 <DrJoeTron> my friend and i usually go in the chopper or fly the planes and destroy everything
02:45 <DrJoeTron> oh god!
02:45 <DrJoeTron> the blackhawk was so nerfed :/
02:45 <ghableska> :P
02:45 <DrJoeTron> see heres what we did
02:45 <ghableska> a whole squad of snipers on a crane :D
02:45 <DrJoeTron> we'd go in the blackhawk, pilot would be squadleader and a medic
02:45 <DrJoeTron> 2 gunners, and an engineer in the back
02:46 <DrJoeTron> so as you got shot the egineer virtually instantly repairs the blackhawk
02:46 <DrJoeTron> and the blackhawk had this rediculous ammount of armor
02:46 <DrJoeTron> it could not be stopped
02:46 <ghableska> haha, nice
02:46 <DrJoeTron> unless you rammed it :p
02:47 <ghableska> true
02:47 <ghableska> kamakazi pilots
02:47 <ghableska> btw, that's a good way of bringing down a walker
02:47 <DrJoeTron> my favorite thing to do now is to drive the planes
02:48 <DrJoeTron> when on the mec side
02:48 <DrJoeTron> i'll just take the fighter, hook it to the left and just start driving it down the road
02:48 <ghableska> yeah, you can get lots of points from people sitting around on the carrier
02:48 <DrJoeTron> oh no
02:48 <ghableska> if you're on MEC. :P
02:48 <ghableska> it sucked
02:48 <DrJoeTron> no way
02:48 <DrJoeTron> i love being Mec
02:48 <DrJoeTron> you learn to love them all
02:48 <ghableska> especially when you were one of the people who waited around for the planes to spawn
02:49 <spidey> DrJoeTron, ghableska lets play defcon
02:49 <DrJoeTron> trust me ghableska when you play with people you know on like a voip, its a whole different game.
02:50 <DrJoeTron> you'll try and be super tactical, and then realize "dick stole my plane! i jusst planted c4 on it though, so he's in for a suprise"
02:50 <ghableska> hahaha
02:50 <ghableska> with ts?
02:50 <DrJoeTron> yeah
02:50 <ghableska> hmm, I think I had that a long time agot oo
02:50 <DrJoeTron> the one for bf2 sucks
02:51 <ghableska> *ago too
02:51 <DrJoeTron> my friend and i play every friday from like 7pm to 2am
02:51 <DrJoeTron> roughly around there
02:51 <ghableska> heh
02:53 <spidey> "you hac....(headshot)....ker
02:53 <spidey> x;
02:53 <ghableska> :P
02:53 <spidey> i love playing no sheilds
02:54 <spidey> and 400% health
02:54 <spidey> i can headshot atleast once every person i aim at
02:54 <ghableska> :P
02:54 <spidey> headshot = instant death no matter what the health is
02:54 <spidey> and they're sitting there hitting my body and legs and stuff doing almost no damage
02:54 <spidey> it's like
02:54 <spidey> pwn!
02:55 <DrJoeTron> #rules
02:55 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
02:56 <DrJoeTron> but uh yeah ghableska let me know if you get hl2 or css
02:57 <spidey> #cnn 38256
02:57 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 59.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Wind: SE at 6 mph (10 km/h).
02:57 <spidey> nice out
02:58 <spidey> DrJoeTron, you're the only one who bitches about "pwn"
02:58 <spidey> so stfu
02:58 <spidey> PWN PWN PWN
02:58 <spidey> zpmg
02:58 <spidey> ZPMG
02:58 <spidey> #help rules
02:58 <armabot> spidey: (rules <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.".
02:59 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:59 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (7:29 PM CST on December 11, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa. 
03:07 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
03:07 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 58.8°F (8:07 PM CST on December 11, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa. 
03:07 <GodTodd> man...i haven't been addicted to punch out since like 7th grade...
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03:21 <spidey> brb
03:21 <ghableska> o.0
03:43 <spidey> JPP R TEH PWNED!
03:44 <spidey> #night
03:44 <armabot> Good night spidey!
03:53 <DrJoeTron> ghableska http://steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=stats&cc=--
03:54 <DrJoeTron> click view detailed statistics
03:54 <ghableska> ok...
03:54 <ghableska> wow!
03:55 <DrJoeTron> source isnt as popular
03:55 <ghableska> yeah...
03:55 <ghableska> higher system requirements?
03:55 <DrJoeTron> but thats because cs v1.6 runs on everything
03:56 <DrJoeTron> but still
03:56 <DrJoeTron> thats alot of servers
03:56 <ghableska> yeah
03:56 <ghableska> what's day of defeat?
04:00 <DrJoeTron> world war II game
04:00 <ghableska> hmm
04:00 <ghableska> I really want portal :)
04:00 <DrJoeTron> its pretty fun
04:00 <DrJoeTron> we all do
04:00 <DrJoeTron> :)
04:00 <ghableska> heh
04:00 <DrJoeTron> have you ever tried narbackular drop?
04:01 <DrJoeTron> i think i misspelled that totally
04:01 <DrJoeTron> but thats what portal is based off of
04:01 <DrJoeTron> its a free game i believe
04:01 <DrJoeTron> also
04:01 <DrJoeTron> if you're waiting for episode 2 to comeout
04:02 <DrJoeTron> note that TF2 is coming with :)
04:02 <DrJoeTron> and i cannot wait for that
04:02 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: yeah, that's fun too
04:02 <ghableska> heh, I like the TF2 and portal trailers :)
04:02 <DrJoeTron> haha yeah
04:03 <DrJoeTron> i've been waiting for tf2 for years
04:03 <ghableska> "As part of a previously-mentioned required test protocol, we can no longer lie to you. When the testing is over, you will be... missed!"
04:16 <DrJoeTron> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6947118853654187245&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en poor poor asimo :(
04:18 <ghableska> heh
04:31 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:31 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (9:01 PM CST on December 11, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa. 
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04:55 <Lucifer_arma> pwn isn't a word
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> man, I was expecting to come back and see spidey whining about wanting to play scorched3d
04:56 <ghableska> instead you came back and saw spidey whining about...?
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> nothing, believe it or not
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> he went to bed, apparently
04:57 <ghableska> o.0
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05:38 <DrJoeTron> oh god
05:38 <DrJoeTron> national no probation day is hilarious
05:39 <DrJoeTron> if you post something stupid on the sa boards, you get put on probation and cant post for "insert time here"
05:39 <DrJoeTron> today they got rid of it for the day, and instead they just ban you for minor infractions.
05:44 <GodTodd> so...how'd you get banned? ;)
05:45 <DrJoeTron> i havent yet
05:45 <DrJoeTron> i never post :.
05:45 <DrJoeTron> i dont plan on it today
05:45 <GodTodd> yet...nice choice of words
05:45 <GodTodd> heh
05:46 <DrJoeTron> pretty much
05:46 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php welcome to the lepers colony
05:47 <DrJoeTron> i mean people get banned for pretty much being totally retarded\
05:48 <GodTodd> you wanna take my last final for me, joe?
05:49 <DrJoeTron> whats it in
05:49 <GodTodd> trig
05:49 <DrJoeTron> and then will you take my last one?
05:49 <GodTodd> what's it in?
05:49 <DrJoeTron> can i just draw dinosaurs?
05:49 <DrJoeTron> graphic design
05:49 <GodTodd> ummm no
05:50 <GodTodd> yeah..i'll take yours :)
05:50 <GodTodd> heh
05:50 <DrJoeTron> hah
05:51 <GodTodd> you have two days to study for mine :)
05:52 <DrJoeTron> mine is tommarow
05:52 <DrJoeTron> shit
05:52 <GodTodd> tomorrow?
05:52 <GodTodd> :P
05:52 <DrJoeTron> curse you spell correct
05:52 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
05:52 <DrJoeTron> tomorrow
05:52 <DrJoeTron> there we go
05:53 <DrJoeTron> i only set it to work with tom arrow
05:53 <GodTodd> haha
05:53 <DrJoeTron> see now there is no excuse for spelling like crap a billion times on the same word you use frequently
05:54 <GodTodd> exactly
05:54 <GodTodd> computers rule :)
05:59 <DrJoeTron> haha
07:00 <GodTodd> hrmm
07:00 <GodTodd> this channel's not nearly as amusing as it normally is
07:01 <GodTodd> oh....i see why
07:12 <DrJoeTron> awesome
07:13 <DrJoeTron> some stranger over the internet just spent money on me
07:16 <GodTodd> how much?
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07:53 <DrJoeTron> 5 bucks
07:53 <DrJoeTron> sorry it took so long
07:54 <DrJoeTron> i decided to be apart of a "new guy adoption thread"
07:54 <DrJoeTron> so he's helping me "break the ice" in the retarded section of the boards
07:56 <DrJoeTron> and decided he liked me and spent 5 bucks so i can get an avatar
08:05 <GodTodd> haha
08:06 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2222932&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
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08:11 <GodTodd> heh
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08:53 <Durka> is joda here?
08:53 <DrJoeTron> now i need to come up with an avatar
08:53 <DrJoeTron> nk
08:53 <DrJoeTron> no
08:54 <Durka> is dr joe tron here?
08:54 <DrJoeTron> probably
08:54 <Durka> o
08:54 <Durka> do u know where
08:54 <DrJoeTron> let me ping him
08:54 <Durka> k
08:54 <DrJoeTron> DrJoeTron ping
08:54 <Durka> i think his ip is 127.0.0.1
08:54 <Durka> or 192.168.0.101 im not sure
08:54 <DrJoeTron> that twit is never there when i need him
08:54 <Durka> :[
08:55 <DrJoeTron> i'll tell him you were looking for him
08:55 <Durka> aight
08:55 <Durka> and tell joda too
08:55 <DrJoeTron> more than likely you'll see him before i will
08:55 <Durka> k
08:56 <Durka> thnx for the advice
08:56 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd i need to come up with an avatar :/
08:56 <DrJoeTron> im thinking i should mspaint one up
09:02 <Durka> #lastseen joda.bot
09:02 <armabot> Durka: ~*SP*~joda.bot has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 12 minutes ago.
09:04 <Durka> #lastseen godtodd
09:05 <Durka> timedout probably
09:05 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd plays armagetron?
09:05 <Durka> no lol
09:05 <armabot> Durka: timed out
09:06 <Durka> #lastseen armabot
09:07 <armabot> Durka: timed out
09:08 <Durka> #quote get 34
09:08 <armabot> Durka: Quote #34: "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady" (added by spidey at 01:17 AM, November 11, 2006)
09:08 <Durka> #quote get 35
09:08 <armabot> Durka: Quote #35: "ur not a good writer :P - Ady" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:00 PM, November 13, 2006)
09:08 <Durka> #quote get 36
09:08 <armabot> Durka: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
09:11 <DrJoeTron> #rules
09:11 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
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09:22 <DrJoeTron> dont you have finals to study for Durka?
09:46  * Durka isnt in college anymore
09:46  * Durka has to go
09:46  * Durka is STILL looking for joe
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11:34 <DrJoeTron> holy fuck
11:34 <DrJoeTron> how old is durka?
11:34 <DrJoeTron> i pegged him as 16
11:39 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma did you ever watch voltron?
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12:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6495 /private/z-man/clio/ (classname.hpp dataconversion.hpp macros.hpp): All places where you pass custom names to macros now require real C strings instead of preprocessor tokens that get stringified.
12:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6496 /private/z-man/clio/test.cpp: All places where you pass custom names to macros now require real C strings instead of preprocessor tokens that get stringified.
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13:31 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: yeah, I watched both the voltron with the lions, and the one with the spaceships
13:38 <DrJoeTron> ok
13:38 <DrJoeTron> answer me this then
13:38 <DrJoeTron> is pidge a boy or a girl
13:39 <Lucifer_arma> boy?
13:39 <Lucifer_arma> the lions had a bunch of boys and one and only one girl
13:39 <DrJoeTron> yeah
13:39 <DrJoeTron> pidge reminds of me of "its pat!"
13:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
13:40 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, don't forget, it was a japanese cartoon, and what we saw in america was some american script written on top of the japanese animation
13:40 <Lucifer_arma> not the japanese script translated :)
13:40 <DrJoeTron> im aware
13:41 <DrJoeTron> like how the old blue lion pilot is just "sent back" in the american dubb when he was mortaly wounded
13:41 <DrJoeTron> no
13:41 <DrJoeTron> Sven died!
13:41 <DrJoeTron> D:
13:41 <DrJoeTron> and i liked sven
13:42 <DrJoeTron> do you know how old durka is?
13:44 <Lucifer_arma> no, I don't sorry
13:44  * Lucifer_arma is going to go smoke a cigarette
13:45 <spidey> die
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> you die
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect durka is 16-18, but he might be drinking age
13:57 <DrJoeTron> he said he is out of college now
13:57 <DrJoeTron> which suprises me
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> could be a college drop out
14:00 <DrJoeTron> true
14:00 <DrJoeTron> but the way he types, he comes off as as someone around 15-18
14:00 <DrJoeTron> wheras when 2020 types he comes off as "I type with my tongue!"
14:00 <DrJoeTron> or
14:00 <DrJoeTron> I
14:01 <DrJoeTron> type with me
14:01 <DrJoeTron> tongue
14:01 <DrJoeTron> !
14:01 <Lucifer_arma> (
14:01 <Lucifer_arma> but only on days ending in Y
14:01 <Lucifer_arma> )
14:01 <wrtlprnft> wow. this math test sucked.
14:01 <DrJoeTron> how'd ya do
14:01 <wrtlprnft> i sort of got something everywhere, so i guess it'll be fine
14:02 <wrtlprnft> but there's one question i heven't found two people with the same answer for
14:02 <Lucifer_arma> I want to read a web page about ship-to-ship sailing tactics, not large navy tactics
14:02  * wrtlprnft hates questions featuring 3-dimensional vectors
14:02 <wrtlprnft> it's work³
14:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh
14:03 <Lucifer_arma> they're not that hard, are they?
14:03 <wrtlprnft> not in therory
14:03 <wrtlprnft> lots of places where a little error can be fatal, though
14:04 <Lucifer_arma> heh, better get used to that.  What was the question?
14:04 <wrtlprnft> sec
14:04 <wrtlprnft> 2 vectors that define a paralellogram
14:04 <wrtlprnft> ABCD, where A = (0;0;0)
14:04 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit.  volume of the parallelpiped?
14:04 <wrtlprnft> no
14:05 <wrtlprnft> you were supposed to find the equations of three lines
14:05 <wrtlprnft> BD, A-(midpoint of BC), and C-(midpoint of AB)
14:05 <wrtlprnft> they're supposed to intersect in one point
14:06 <wrtlprnft> i was supposed to find that point, and got three intersection
14:06 <wrtlprnft> the next question was the ratio in which the point divides the lines
14:07 <wrtlprnft> well, i had 3 points, each intersecting 2 lines, so i could have given 6 answers
14:07 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, is there something missing?  Are the two vectors given, or are you just given the one point and those relationships?
14:07 <wrtlprnft> the vectors and the point is given
14:08 <wrtlprnft> if the vectors are x and y (stupid names), b is a+x, d is a+y, and c is a+x+y
14:09 <wrtlprnft> all with vector arrows over them
14:09 <Lucifer_arma> umm, yeah, we normally use different letters for vectors because x, y, and z are used for points and equations
14:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's not a requirement, of course, but it is less confusing that way
14:10 <wrtlprnft> they didn't have names
14:10 <wrtlprnft> they were just called AB and BC
14:10 <wrtlprnft> w/ vector symbols, but you can't have them here, so i named them
14:10 <Lucifer_arma> since a is (0,0,0), you can simplify c to just x+y
14:11 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
14:11 <wrtlprnft> i know how to do it, but i must have made some miscalculations
14:11 <DrJoeTron> man oh man do i wish i payed attention in math durring high school
14:11 <DrJoeTron> or....every school
14:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, hmm, you're supposed to end up with 3 sets of equations, right?  x = ? , y = ?, and z = ?, for each line
14:12 <wrtlprnft> well, we express lines as x = a + r*u
14:12 <Lucifer_arma> and that's just x = x1 + vector_x
14:12 <wrtlprnft> where x,a,u are vectors
14:13 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, we didn't do lines like that.  We either did them as parametric equations or vector functions
14:13 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: yeah, but you'll only use two lines for the intersection, and then check if that point is on the third line as well
14:13 <spidey> #g H2(g) + Cl2
14:13 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:13 <wrtlprnft> that is parametric?!
14:13 <spidey> psh
14:13 <Lucifer_arma> where a vector function would be something like r = <asubx + x, asuby + y, asubz + x>
14:13 <wrtlprnft> x = a + r*u is parametric
14:14 <wrtlprnft> r is your variable parameter
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14:14 <Lucifer_arma> right, but afaik (I'm weak on parametrics), you still need y = ? and z = ? to make it parametric
14:14 <wrtlprnft> oh, x is a vector
14:15 <wrtlprnft> consisting of x,y,z components
14:16 <Lucifer_arma> so x is a vector function, then.  :)  For each r you pass in, there is one and only one vector you get out
14:16 <wrtlprnft> 1
14:17 <spidey> 2
14:17 <wrtlprnft> 1 true yes ja oui si yeah yep
14:17 <spidey> o.o
14:18 <spidey> wrttl
14:18 <spidey> why doesn't your bot do science equations
14:18 <wrtlprnft> #g 100N/5A/20cm
14:18 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((100 N) / (5 A)) / (20 cm) = 100 tesla
14:19 <wrtlprnft> it does?
14:19 <spidey> #g 2 WO3(s) + 3H2(g)
14:19 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:19 <spidey> can't tell
14:19 <spidey> ;p
14:19 <wrtlprnft> that's chemistry
14:19 <Lucifer_arma> that's chemistry
14:19 <wrtlprnft> lol
14:19 <spidey> w/e
14:19 <spidey> >.>
14:20 <spidey> it's in my physical science book ;s
14:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, correct me if I'm wrong, but there can be multiple solutions to those chemical equations
14:20 <wrtlprnft> and you can't solve them as such automatically
14:20 <spidey> i had this my first year of 8th grade
14:20 <spidey> and i aced it
14:20 <spidey> but
14:21  * Lucifer_arma aced it in high school, but bombed it in college
14:21 <spidey> i forgot it because my long term memory is gay :D
14:21 <Lucifer_arma> if your long term memory was gay, you happily remember it
14:21 <spidey> LOL
14:21 <DrJoeTron> soundslike a quote to me
14:21 <wrtlprnft> what do you actually do in grade 8? parabolas and 
14:21 <spidey> ...
14:21 <DrJoeTron> fractions
14:21 <spidey> well
14:21 <wrtlprnft> umm, what did we do in 8-class physics? :o
14:21 <Lucifer_arma> depends on how much of a loser you are
14:22 <wrtlprnft> don't remember
14:22 <spidey> 8th grade was when i started caring more about picking on teachers instead of books
14:22 <spidey> so
14:22  * Lucifer_arma flunked algebra 1 twice
14:22 <spidey> i caused havack
14:22 <spidey> :D
14:22 <Lucifer_arma> *havoc
14:22 <spidey> w/e
14:22 <spidey> that's also why i can't spell
14:22 <spidey> ;x
14:22 <Lucifer_arma> so you used to pick on books?
14:22 <wrtlprnft> poor things.
14:22 <spidey> ...
14:23 <DrJoeTron> what did goosebumps ever do to you spidey?
14:23 <spidey> omg
14:23 <spidey> NO
14:23 <spidey> i hate those books
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> racist
14:23 <DrJoeTron> too scary? :)
14:23 <spidey> no
14:23 <spidey> i tested on a shitload of them for reading
14:23 <spidey> in this stupid program we wasdoing
14:24 <spidey> then when i got in 7th grade i tested on them again
14:24 <spidey> because i already knew them
14:24 <DrJoeTron> you were being tested on goosebump books?
14:24 <DrJoeTron> my god
14:24 <spidey> no
14:24 <spidey> it's a reading program
14:24 <spidey> you read a book on your "reading level" which is decided by a program
14:24 <spidey> then you test on it
14:25 <spidey> on the computer, of course
14:25 <Lucifer_arma> this was earlier this year, right?
14:25 <wrtlprnft> goosebump books = these things where you get a choice at the end of each “chapter” and have to flip to a certain page based on that?
14:25 <spidey> no...
14:25 <spidey> this was
14:25 <spidey> 3-4 years ago
14:25 <spidey> or so
14:25 <Lucifer_arma> no, goosebumps are scary-for-kids books
14:25 <Lucifer_arma> like Dean Koontz, but for 8 year olds
14:25 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter loves them
14:25 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
14:26 <wrtlprnft> wiki down?
14:26 <Lucifer_arma> ?
14:27 <wrtlprnft> Connecting to remote host wiki.armagetronad.net…
14:27 <wrtlprnft> there for about 10 minutes now
14:27 <wrtlprnft> i can access the forums just fine
14:27 <Lucifer_arma> Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: libmysqlclient.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
14:27 <Lucifer_arma> errrr
14:28 <wrtlprnft> emerge --oneshot php
14:28 <wrtlprnft> or emerge gentoolkit and then run revdep-rebuild
14:28 <wrtlprnft> it's because you updated mysql, and the old PHP can't link to the new mysql
14:28 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh
14:28 <Lucifer_arma> right, I did update mysql accidentally
14:29 <Lucifer_arma> man, this gentoo thing is getting old.  I'm considering moving my server back to Mandriva too
14:29 <wrtlprnft> x_X
14:29 <DrJoeTron> bah i got a class at 1:40, i think im going to get some more sleep
14:29 <DrJoeTron> tata
14:29  * Lucifer_arma just woke up
14:29 <spidey> i got to goto "class" at 11am
14:29 <wrtlprnft> #g 1:40 GMT+1 in CST
14:29 <Lucifer_arma> I need to study for my calc test, which is thursday
14:29 <spidey> so shush
14:29 <spidey> ;p
14:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:29 <wrtlprnft> aww
14:30 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: what's that about?
14:30 <Lucifer_arma> what's what about?
14:30 <Lucifer_arma> calc test?
14:30 <wrtlprnft> 1
14:31 <Lucifer_arma> it's, er, spherical and cylindrical coordinates, double and triple integrals
14:32 <wrtlprnft> eek
14:32 <wrtlprnft> double integrals sound awful
14:33 <Lucifer_arma> and applications of same :)
14:33 <Lucifer_arma> they're not that bad, really, just tedious
14:33 <Lucifer_arma> you don't work with constant bounds necessarily, you might have one set of constant bounds and varying bounds for the other
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> you have to put the varying bounds on the inside and the constant bounds on the outside, or you don't get a number
14:34 <wrtlprnft> the other course is currently doing volume under functions w/ two parameters
14:34 <wrtlprnft> that's basically a double integral, too
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, that's what we're doing :)
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> it's also applicable to density and some other stuff.  There's a hardcore applications section in this chapter using double and triple integrals
14:35 <wrtlprnft> well, we didn't do it (yet?)
14:35 <wrtlprnft> the other course is the “lower” one, though, they didn't do the other stuff we did
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you're already doing 3d vectors, then I've got no idea at all how your calc sequence is ordered
14:36 <wrtlprnft> dunno myself
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> because I'm in calc 3, and we only just this semester started doing all that 3d crap, and next semester we go to even more dimensions
14:37 <wrtlprnft> that teacher likes mixing stuff op until noone understands it anymore
14:37 <Lucifer_arma> so if they're putting calc3 stuff in an earlier calc class.... :)
14:37 <Lucifer_arma> it is calculus though, right?  You're doing derivatives and crap?
14:37 <wrtlprnft> yeah
14:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, I can see calculus being organized where the multivariable stuff is mixed in, most of this semester has been calc 1 derivative-type stuff, only in 3 dimensions
14:39 <wrtlprnft> note that i missed grade 11
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> so there's a windows build of crimson fields with networking now :)
14:39 <wrtlprnft> but they were doing derivatives and some complex numbers
14:40 <spidey> how gay
14:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, pretty much after algebra there are probably all sorts of ways you can organize the whole calc sequence :/
14:40 <spidey> "each of the colored balls is a electron"
14:40 <spidey> the picture's black and white....
14:40 <spidey> and
14:40 <spidey> all the "balls" re black
14:40 <wrtlprnft> just imagine the colors
14:40 <Lucifer_arma> colored = black
14:40 <Lucifer_arma> don't you know anything about race issues?
14:40 <spidey> lol
14:40 <wrtlprnft> the smaller balls are the electrons, if there's any doubt
14:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, spidey's balls are electrons
14:41 <spidey> >.>
14:41 <spidey> well
14:41 <spidey> there's 8 there
14:41  * Lucifer_arma quietly notes there's a big/small penis joke in every sentence
14:41 <Lucifer_arma> and how many protons are there?
14:41 <spidey> doesn't say
14:42 <spidey> just says the color they are
14:42 <spidey> but it's a black and white picture :p
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> I guess you're not supposed to identify the atom then?
14:42 <spidey> guess not
14:42 <spidey> o.O
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> well, you need to know how many protons are there
14:43 <wrtlprnft> the ones that are all glued together are protons and neutrons
14:43 <Lucifer_arma> look up that number on the periodic table, then figure out the charge.  If the charge is 0, you have an atom.  Otherwise, you have an ion
14:44 <wrtlprnft> i loved chemistry when it was that simple
14:44 <wrtlprnft> now we have orbitals and all sorts of names for all sorts of molecules containing lots of C and H
14:45 <spidey> it's oxygen
14:45 <spidey> it has the answer on the bottom of the second page ;x
14:45 <wrtlprnft> 1,2-Methyl-1-Propen
14:46 <wrtlprnft> you should see either 6 or 8 electrons on there
14:46 <spidey> 8
14:46 <wrtlprnft> then they have the 1s² electrons on there, too
14:48 <wrtlprnft> which reminds me
14:49 <wrtlprnft> 10.6g/cm/cm/cm /2/107.87u
14:49 <wrtlprnft> #g 10.6g/cm/cm/cm /2/107.87u
14:49 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (10.6 (((g / cm) / cm) / cm)) / ((2/107.87) u) = 3.44292454 * 10^(32) m^(-3)
14:49 <wrtlprnft> errm, no
14:49 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 u in g
14:49 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 atomic mass unit = 1.66053886 * 10^(-24) grams
14:50 <wrtlprnft> #g (10.6g/cm/cm/cm /2/107.87u)^(-1)
14:50 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((10.6 (((g / cm) / cm) / cm)) / ((2/107.87) u))^(-1) = 2.90450746 * 10^(-33) m^(3)
14:50 <wrtlprnft> something's wrong there. there are more free electrons in one cubic metre of silver!
14:51 <spidey> big words!
14:51  * spidey abbr.'s them
14:51 <wrtlprnft> #g ((10.6)*(g/cm/cm/cm) / (2*107.87u))^(-1)
14:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((10.6 * (((g / cm) / cm) / cm)) / (2 * 107.87 u))^(-1) = 3.37966655 * 10^(-29) m^(3)
14:52 <wrtlprnft> #g ((10.6)*(g/cm/cm/cm) / (2*107.87u))
14:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (10.6 * (((g / cm) / cm) / cm)) / (2 * 107.87 u) = 2.95887179 * 10^(28) m^(-3)
14:52 <wrtlprnft> that sounds ok
14:52 <wrtlprnft> #g ((10.6)*(g/cm/cm/cm) / (2*107.87u)) * (elementary charge)
14:52 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((10.6 * (((g / cm) / cm) / cm)) / (2 * 107.87 u)) * elementary charge = 4.74063473 * 10^(9) s A / m^(3)
14:53 <wrtlprnft> #g elementary charge
14:53 <armabot> wrtlprnft: elementary charge = 1.60217646 * 10^(-19) coulombs
14:54 <wrtlprnft> so the free electrons in one cubic metre of silver have a charge of 4.74 * 10^(-9) C
14:54 <wrtlprnft> *10^(+9)
15:00 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0612120306dec12,1,4416127.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true  <-- sometimes Texas doesn't seem that great a place
15:01 <wrtlprnft> Please register or log in
15:01 <wrtlprnft> The story you requested is available only to registered members.
15:01 <wrtlprnft> i refuse.
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> er
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0612120306dec12,1,4416127.story%3Fcoll%3Dchi-newsnationworld-hed&cid=1111935768&ei=9rR-Rbi4N8eIaOTonMkO
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> apparently if the referrer is google, they let you read it
15:01 <wrtlprnft> o_O
15:01 <wrtlprnft> i don't send referrers
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> a lot of news sites do that :)
15:02 <Lucifer_arma> ok, basically someone wants to build a mosque in a Houston suburbs and residents are complaining the area will become a hotbed for terrorism
15:03 <wrtlprnft> i can read it
15:03 <spidey> mosque?
15:03 <wrtlprnft> w/o referrers
15:03 <wrtlprnft> spidey: islamic equivalent of a church.
15:03 <spidey> o
15:04 <wrtlprnft> wow, even i didn't have to look that up, and i'm not a native english speaker…
15:04 <wrtlprnft> it's „moschee“ in german
15:04 <Lucifer_arma> I always get mosques and synagogues confused
15:04 <wrtlprnft> o_O
15:04 <Lucifer_arma> there's an irony in there somewhere
15:07 <spidey> 22/30
15:07  * spidey yawns
15:08 <wrtlprnft> #g 22/30
15:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 22 / 30 = 0.733333333
15:09 <spidey> 73% done with this book?
15:09 <spidey> o.O
15:10 <Lucifer_arma> dammit
15:10 <wrtlprnft> what book has 30 pages?
15:10 <Lucifer_arma> why does installing a few kid games break apache?
15:10 <Lucifer_arma> now I have to rebuild eaccelerator because it was built for the older php
15:10 <spidey> wrtlprnft, my physical science packet??
15:11 <spidey> i've got 6 of these bastards
15:11 <spidey> 'er
15:11 <spidey> 8
15:11 <spidey> 12 pre algerbra :
15:11 <spidey> :/
15:13 <spidey> gotta love christrain schools, rofl
15:13 <spidey> you're doing your work....then you turn a page and in big bold letters it says "GOD LOVES YOU!"
15:14 <Lucifer_arma> didn't we establish god only loves things that suck?
15:14 <spidey> like luke?
15:14 <Lucifer_arma> yes
15:14 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: did you get scorched3d?
15:15 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: err, no
15:15 <wrtlprnft> #wikipedia scorched3d
15:15 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.20 seconds: Scorched 3D - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_3D>; Artillery (computer game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_(computer_game)>; List of open source games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games>
15:16 <wrtlprnft> i hope that'll run on this machine
15:16 <spidey> lol!
15:16 <spidey> just
15:16 <spidey> don't run it in windowed mode
15:16 <wrtlprnft> the graphics look pretty demanding
15:17 <spidey> i run it
15:17 <spidey> onboard here
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15:17 <Lucifer_arma> you can turn down the graphical detail and stuff
15:17 <Lucifer_arma> it is a very nice looking game though :)
15:17 <Lucifer_arma> it's the new black
15:17 <Lucifer_arma> the water simulation is very convincing, even :)
15:18 <spidey> lol
15:19 <wrtlprnft> 53MB o_O
15:19 <spidey> ?
15:19 <spidey> 53mb = small
15:20 <spidey> most games i play are over 800mb
15:20 <spidey> one was a 2.5gb download and installed with 3.14gb >.>
15:22 <Lucifer_arma> ok, wiki's back up now
15:22 <wrtlprnft> grmpf, darn opera
15:23 <wrtlprnft> if you try too often to connect to a server that's down it keeps those connection attempts open
15:23 <wrtlprnft> now it hit its per-server limit, and i can't connect to it at all. Well, someone care about the spam until i restart it ;)
15:24 <wrtlprnft> *take care of?
15:24 <wrtlprnft> so this is basically worms in 3d w/o movement?
15:25 <spidey> you can move
15:25 <spidey> teleports
15:25 <spidey> fuel
15:25 <spidey> nitro
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> you can move, yes.  In fact, standard artillery practice these days is to fire, then move, then fire again
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> but that's not necessary in this game, you move when you see your opponent is going to have his range
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> if you can, that is
15:27 <spidey> lol
15:27 <spidey> i saw mom was close to hitting me
15:27 <spidey> so i teleported right when his nuke landed
15:27 <spidey> ;x
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15:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> I dodged a number of vanhayes' nukes that way
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> also by just walking
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> I had one where vanhayes was getting his range on me (shooting over a mountain), and I had just hit someone else
15:32 <Lucifer_arma> then I teleported to right behind vanhayes and shot him on the next turn :)
15:33 <spidey> lol
15:33 <spidey> i like how you guys waste your missles and stuff :p
15:33 <wrtlprnft> this thing takes forever to compile.
15:33 <spidey> i use tracers
15:34 <spidey> smoke tracer i sthe best
15:34 <Lucifer_arma> I played on a server (I think against bots) where they showed a map that was completely black
15:34 <spidey> because it leaves a blue tail
15:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, tracers really clutter the field, and baby missiles are infinite
15:34 <spidey> and lets you adjust your aim better
15:34 <spidey> ;p
15:34 <Lucifer_arma> I use baby missiles until I'm pretty sure I'll hit, then I switch to a different weapon, depending on what I'm doing
15:34 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I position the camera so I can see the shot
15:34 <Lucifer_arma> I only screw up and take a bunch of turns to aim when I'm smoking crack
15:35 <Lucifer_arma> I also watch the shot cam
15:35 <spidey> lol
15:36 <Lucifer_arma> also, it seems like the scale of different maps is different
15:36 <Lucifer_arma> like, the other guy can be the same visual distance, but closer, so you use less power
15:37 <Lucifer_arma> so the only time I really hit on the first turn is when the guy is at such an angle and position that I can just fire at max power, where my shot basically goes in a straight line because he's too close for it to be significantly affected by gravity
15:37 <Lucifer_arma> heh, vanhayes was burying me one time, and I shot him with a heavy laser.  :)
15:37 <spidey> lol
15:37 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: it's a fun game, if it runs for you (it doesn't for luke), it'll probably be worth the compile
15:39 <wrtlprnft> if it doesn't run for luke-jr_work that's a bonus point.
15:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
15:40 <wrtlprnft> ill try the tutorial first :)
15:40 <Lucifer_arma> good idea :)
15:40 <Lucifer_arma> it also has the advantage of not taking 8-20 hours to play a whole game
15:40 <wrtlprnft> The Scorched3d process terminated due to configuration errors.
15:40 <wrtlprnft> Scorched3D : Failed to open sound device
15:41 <wrtlprnft> grmpf
15:41 <Lucifer_arma> disable sound?
15:41 <wrtlprnft> and it left me at a 640*480 res
15:41 <wrtlprnft> kill the mplayer in the background
15:41 <Lucifer_arma> here I get a little window that makes me decide options before I can start the game, do you get that window?
15:42  * Lucifer_arma notes older versions didn't do that, you just started the game and had to hack the config file to do anything else
15:42 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i got that
15:42 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, one of the icons in that window is graphics settings
15:42 <Lucifer_arma> *settings, including graphics and sound
15:42 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i saw that
15:42 <Lucifer_arma> I like the sound effects, to be honest
15:43 <Lucifer_arma> you hear birds chirping and shit
15:51 <Lucifer_arma> I'm doing something wron
15:52 <spidey> done!
15:52 <spidey> yay
15:52 <spidey> 30 page book in 
15:52 <GodTodd> #dict perspicacity
15:52 <armabot> GodTodd: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Perspicacity \Per`spi*cac"i*ty\ (p[~e]r`sp[i^]*k[a^]s"[i^]*t[y^]), n. [L. perspicacitas: cf. F. perspicacit['e]. See {Perspicacious}.] The state of being perspicacious; acuteness of sight or of intelligence; acute discernment. --Sir T. Browne. [1913 Webster]; wn: perspicacity n 1: intelligence manifested by being astute (as in business dealings) [syn: (3 more messages)
15:52 <spidey> hour and a hlf
15:52 <spidey> half
15:53 <Lucifer_arma> reading some eric flint?
15:53 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, wanna play s3d?
15:53 <Lucifer_arma> studying calc right now, maybe in a bit
15:53 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: me?
15:53 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yeah you :)
15:53 <Lucifer_arma> he uses that word a lot
15:53 <GodTodd> heh...nah
15:53 <GodTodd> that word is cool tho
15:53 <GodTodd> :)
15:54 <Lucifer_arma> it is a cool word, I like how it rolls off the tongue
15:54 <GodTodd> i'ma have to put it in my lexicon
15:54 <Lucifer_arma> anyone convert rectangular coordinates to spherical coordinates?
15:54 <GodTodd> nope...just covered converting them to polar
15:54 <GodTodd> :)
15:55 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
15:55 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I get for my distance sqrt(18), or 3sqrt(2), right?
15:55 <Lucifer_arma> cos(someangle) = 4/3sqrt(2)
15:56 <Lucifer_arma> what's the angle?
15:56 <Lucifer_arma> in radians
15:58 <Lucifer_arma> er, this is all fucked up
15:58 <spidey> #g -3x + 4 + x + 9
15:58 <Lucifer_arma> I get sqrt(18) for p, but the book's answer for p is sqrt(2)
15:58 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
15:58 <spidey> ....
15:58 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6497 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Wrapped tOutput
15:59 <GodTodd> spidey: 13-2x
15:59 <GodTodd> ;)
15:59 <spidey> no
15:59 <Lucifer_arma> yes
16:00 <GodTodd> ok....-2x+13 but that's not preferred form
16:00 <GodTodd> :P
16:00 <Lucifer_arma> umm, yeah it is
16:00 <Lucifer_arma> you want decreasing exponents
16:01 <Lucifer_arma> x^1 comes before x^0
16:01 <GodTodd> well...depends on where you're going with it
16:01 <Lucifer_arma> it's a polynomial, by convention you put it with decreasing exponents
16:02 <Lucifer_arma> just not your preferred form.  :)
16:02 <GodTodd> i've run into a lot of teachers that hate negatives at the beginning tho
16:02 <Lucifer_arma> ah, well, they're just sign-cripples or something
16:02 <GodTodd> probably :)
16:02 <GodTodd> my preferred form is either :P
16:02 <Lucifer_arma> if you put y= in front of it, suddenly you want the x term first
16:02 <GodTodd> yep
16:02 <spidey> so
16:04 <spidey> how do you work that...
16:04 <GodTodd> combine like terms
16:04 <Lucifer_arma> you're done?
16:04 <spidey> done ?
16:04 <GodTodd> yeah
16:04 <spidey> done with physical science yea
16:04 <Lucifer_arma> no, the answer is what GodTodd gave
16:04 <GodTodd> yep
16:04 <Lucifer_arma> and yeah, you combine like terms.  x + 2x = 3x
16:05 <Lucifer_arma> x^2 + x is "finished"
16:05 <GodTodd> yep
16:05 <Lucifer_arma> x + 1 is also finished
16:05 <Lucifer_arma> (and unfactorable)
16:05 <GodTodd> you can only combine terms with equivalent powers of x
16:05 <spidey> um
16:05 <spidey> can we like
16:05 <spidey> bring it down to 9th grade expanation
16:05 <spidey> ;x
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> just did :)
16:06 <spidey> explanation* or something
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> ok, what's actually confusing you?
16:06 <spidey> ok so -3x + 4 + x+ 9, you switch the 4 and the x, then work it from left to right?
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, not necessarily
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> I would read -3x and x, combine them to -2x, and write that
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> then I'd read 4 and 9, combine them to 13, and write + 13
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> then you'd read on my paper "-2x + 13"
16:07 <spidey> oh
16:07 <wrtlprnft> ok, i think i get it
16:07 <wrtlprnft> i probably still suck
16:07 <spidey> i get it now
16:08 <GodTodd> yeah...i do it the way Lucifer_arma does 
16:08 <spidey> i missed those problems because i worked it all the way threw
16:08 <spidey> lol
16:08 <spidey> so i got 11x
16:08 <spidey> :/
16:08 <Lucifer_arma> on really big expressions you'll want to cross out terms you've already combined
16:08 <Lucifer_arma> you know, just to keep track of wher eyou're at
16:09 <spidey> ok so lets try this one
16:09 <GodTodd> spidey: common mistake....you just need to remember that you can only combine terms with equal letters
16:10 <spidey> 7x - 3y -9x -4y , 7x - 9x = -2x and 3y - 4y =-1y so it's -2x and -1y?
16:10 <Lucifer_arma> anybody here know how to convert rectangular coordinates to spherical coordinates?
16:10 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, that's a different problem
16:10 <spidey> 'er -2x + 1y
16:10 <spidey> or something
16:10 <GodTodd> -2x and -7y
16:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6498 /private/z-man/clio/ (10 files): Added custom constructors for classes with virtual functions. From the unnecessary limitations department: the default constructor of them can't be private.
16:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6499 /private/z-man/clio/argument_lists_undef.hpp: Added custom constructors for classes with virtual functions. From the unnecessary limitations department: the default constructor of them can't be private.
16:11 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait a minute, I misunderstood what spidey wrote, haha
16:11 <spidey> lol
16:11 <spidey> did i do it right?
16:11 <spidey> o.O
16:11 <Lucifer_arma> I get what godtodd got
16:11 <Lucifer_arma> you were close, you just screwed up adding two negative numbers
16:12 <Lucifer_arma> in the y's you get -3y - 4y
16:12 <Lucifer_arma> -3-4 = -7
16:12 <spidey> oh
16:12 <spidey> forgot >.>
16:12 <Lucifer_arma> you did it right, just got the actual arithmetic wrong :)
16:12 <GodTodd> the sign always stays with the number directly to the right
16:12 <Lucifer_arma> which is a *very* common mistake
16:12 <GodTodd> definitely
16:12 <GodTodd> my first trig test i would have gotten a 100 if i hadn't brain farted some arithmetic
16:13 <Lucifer_arma> I switch digits and signs all the time, it's how come I've got a B in calc 3 right now instead of an A
16:13 <GodTodd> yeah...that's how i'm getting my b in trig :/
16:13 <spidey> -3-4 = -7?
16:13 <GodTodd> yep
16:13 <spidey> i thought it was 1
16:13 <spidey> o.O
16:13 <GodTodd> -3+-4
16:14 <spidey> oh
16:14 <spidey> would help if i read the review more than once ;x
16:14 <GodTodd> heh
16:14 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: I already got my A in c++ :)
16:15 <spidey> so 3x + 4 + (-6x) + -3 would be -3x + 1 ?
16:15 <GodTodd> yep
16:16 <spidey> yay :D
16:17  * GodTodd likes algebra.
16:17 <GodTodd> useful stuff
16:18 <spidey> i'm on prealgerbra :/
16:19 <GodTodd> prealgebra still uses algebra :P
16:19 <spidey> i missed 9 problems on the 20 problem self test
16:19 <GodTodd> hmmm
16:19 <spidey> so i gotta correct them
16:19 <spidey> then get it rechecked
16:19 <spidey> then test
16:19 <GodTodd> errors combining terms?
16:19 <spidey> yea
16:20 <GodTodd> once you get that down, you'll have it forever
16:21 <GodTodd> wow...that came out trying to be a little more profound than i meant it to be
16:21 <GodTodd> heh
16:22 <spidey> ok here's a orders of operations
16:23 <spidey> -10 / 2 * 8 -4
16:23 <spidey> devide or multiply first
16:23 <GodTodd> divide
16:23 <GodTodd> division/multiplication from left to right
16:23 <spidey> k
16:23 <GodTodd> then add/subtract from left to right
16:24 <GodTodd> they'll add more later, but that should do it for prealgebra
16:24 <GodTodd> unless they add exponents
16:24 <spidey> yea
16:24 <spidey> then you do them first
16:24 <GodTodd> yep
16:25 <spidey> or parenthises
16:25 <GodTodd> yeah
16:25 <GodTodd> parentheses just set a section off as having to be done before applying it to any other part of the equation
16:26 <GodTodd> such as 10 * (5 -2)
16:26 <GodTodd> compared to 10 * 5 - 2
16:26 <spidey> now if i pass this math and physical science i have 3 books to finish the semister
16:26 <spidey> :D
16:26 <GodTodd> i have one final to finish the semester :P
16:26 <GodTodd> heh
16:26 <spidey> i don't have finals
16:26 <spidey> or tcaps
16:27 <Lucifer_arma> I've one test, but it's not a cumulative final
16:27 <spidey> "tennessee assesment test
16:27 <spidey> or some shit
16:27 <GodTodd> mine is cumulative
16:27 <GodTodd> the history one i took last night was only over 2 chapters
16:27 <spidey> ii don't have mid terms either ;x
16:27 <GodTodd> basically over civil rights movements in texas and the decline of the democratic party in texas
16:27 <wrtlprnft> darn, the bot beat me 6:4
16:27 <Lucifer_arma> we don't technically do mid-terms, but very often several classes will all test the same week in the middle of the semester
16:28 <spidey> well
16:28 <spidey> the way we did it in public school was
16:28 <GodTodd> yeah...we tend to do informal midterms
16:28 <spidey> the first semester was mid terms
16:28 <Lucifer_arma> it doesn't take long, wrtlprnft (hi there!) .  :)  GodTodd played the very first time in a crowd with me and vanhayes and spidey and ghableska
16:28 <spidey> the last semester was finals
16:28 <Lucifer_arma> he got wiped the first couple of rounds, then came on and kicked ass
16:28 <GodTodd> ;)
16:29 <GodTodd> trial by fire 
16:29 <spidey> i've gotten the hang of that game
16:29 <spidey> wrtlprnft, wanna play?
16:29 <spidey> i have a hour and a half before i have to leave :D
16:30 <wrtlprnft> ok
16:30 <spidey> you host or me?
16:30 <wrtlprnft> you host, i don't even know the port
16:30 <spidey> k
16:30 <spidey> me either
16:30 <spidey> i just got this box dmz'd
16:30 <spidey> :p
16:31 <wrtlprnft> 68-119-125-27.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com?
16:31 <spidey> yea
16:31 <spidey> ok, server started
16:32 <wrtlprnft> grrr!
16:32 <wrtlprnft> i hate games w/o network compatibility
16:32 <spidey> lol
16:32 <spidey> it disconnect you?
16:33 <wrtlprnft> yeah
16:33 <spidey> try again :p
16:33 <wrtlprnft> updating to what gentoo calls unstable…
16:33 <spidey> heh
16:33 <spidey> you should have gotten 40.1d off there site
16:33 <wrtlprnft> still the same
16:33 <wrtlprnft> i used what was in portage
16:33 <wrtlprnft> didn't know this game was so anal about versions
16:34 <spidey> #google search scortched3d
16:34 <armabot> spidey: No matches found. (Search took 0.27 seconds)
16:34 <spidey> ?
16:34 <Lucifer_arma> scorched3d
16:34 <Lucifer_arma> there's no 't' in it
16:34 <spidey> http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/downloads.php
16:34 <wrtlprnft> i KNOW.
16:34 <spidey>  Linux (Redhat, Mandrake, etc.) 	56MB 	40.1d 	Download - RPM Format
16:34 <Lucifer_arma> spidey doesn't know, apparently :)
16:35 <Lucifer_arma> I installed the rpm from their site
16:35 <wrtlprnft> i'm still using portage, just installing what it considers to be unstable
16:35  * wrtlprnft dislikes RPM
16:35 <spidey> heh
16:35  * Lucifer_arma notes that if he'd have installed that shit on his server from rpm, it wouldn't have required rebuilding php and eaccelerator
16:36 <Lucifer_arma> and "that shit" was a game package for kids
16:36 <Lucifer_arma> why should a game package for kids break a webserver?
16:36 <wrtlprnft> just run revdep-rebuild after you emerge a new version of an important package
16:37 <Lucifer_arma> urpmi <wahtever the package was called> would have done it without all that extra shit
16:37 <Lucifer_arma> but I guess since rpm sucks so much, it doesn't matter how easy it is
16:37 <wrtlprnft> the only time i tried installing an rpm it failed
16:37 <Lucifer_arma> I don't even remember what package it was, I think it was the kedutainment package
16:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've installed thousands of rpms by now (have to, that's how many it takes to install a base system)
16:38 <Lucifer_arma> and have only had problems with a very few
16:38 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, I've had problems with quite a few emerges
16:38 <Lucifer_arma> on my laptop, I was willing to credit myself as the problem, but the server uses only the "stable" stuff
16:39 <Lucifer_arma> of course, if you're installing an rpm onto a non-rpmbased system, I'd expect problems.  :)
16:40 <Lucifer_arma> but if I updated mysql, urpmi would also update everything that depended on mysql automatically
16:40 <Lucifer_arma> provided the people that made the packages did their dependencies right, of course, but dependencies are determined by ld for the most part anyway
16:41 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I now want a source-based distribution that uses rpm for its package format :)
16:41 <wrtlprnft> whatever rocks your boat.
16:41 <spidey> hm
16:41 <spidey> there's servers online!
16:41 <Lucifer_arma> yes, there are
16:41 <Lucifer_arma> you in one?
16:41 <spidey> no
16:42 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(32^2+16^2)
16:42 <spidey> thinking of joining one
16:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt((32^2) + (16^2)) = 35.7770876
16:42 <Lucifer_arma> hang on, lemme see the list :)
16:42  * Lucifer_arma is taking a study break
16:42 <spidey> mine isn't on there :(
16:43 <spidey> oh
16:43 <spidey> i see it on the lan list
16:44 <Lucifer_arma> you have to tell it to tell the metaserver about itself
16:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's not automatic
16:44 <spidey> i did
16:44 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig spawn
16:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_FIRST_SPAWN_PROTECTION: Set to 1 if the invulnerability and wall delay should already be active on the initial spawn at the beginning of a round. (default: 0) || CYCLE_FIRST_SPAWN_PROTECTION_OVERRIDE: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 3) || SPAWN_POINT_GROUP_SIZE: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 0) || SPAWN_WINGMEN_BACK: Determines how much each wingman is placed backwards in a team. (default: 2.2029) || (1 more message)
16:44 <Lucifer_arma> what did you call your server?
16:44 <spidey> "spidey"
16:44 <Lucifer_arma> and do you want me to just connect to your server?
16:55 <spidey> doesn't matter
16:55 <Lucifer_arma> it's not in my list either
16:55 <spidey> that or we could join one of these
16:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, did you start with the apoc mod?
16:55 <spidey> yea
16:55 <Lucifer_arma> let's play there then :)
16:55 <Lucifer_arma> IP/host?
16:55 <spidey> sec
16:55 <spidey> Wan IP
16:55 <spidey> 	68.119.125.27
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17:48 <Lucifer_arma> heh, fun game :)
17:49 <GodTodd> yep :)
17:53 <wrtlprnft> darn you GodTodd 
17:53 <GodTodd> ?
17:53 <wrtlprnft> you were idle
17:54 <GodTodd> i got disconnected apparently
17:54 <GodTodd> :
17:54 <GodTodd> :/
17:54 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig start_speedf
17:54 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig start_speed
17:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sorry, no matches :S
17:54 <armabot> wrtlprnft: CYCLE_START_SPEED: Initial cycle speed (default: 20)
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17:58 <Lucifer_arma> I love that apocolypse mod
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> big explosions :)
17:58 <GodTodd> yep
17:58 <Lucifer_arma> I need to remember that riot bombs are just dirt removers though
17:59 <Lucifer_arma> one round I would've killed someone (spidey?) if I had used baby missiles, I kept hitting with riot bombs :/
17:59 <GodTodd> heh
17:59 <wrtlprnft> haha
17:59 <wrtlprnft> ever played wormux?
17:59 <wrtlprnft> it's got riot bombs, too, they're fun
18:00 <wrtlprnft> useful if you have someone right over water
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> no, I haven't.  People are saying scorched is like "worms", but I keep thinking the worms game that's like tron
18:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you hadn't hit that nuclear plant, my next shot was going to be a mirv that would have taken you out.  That was a lucky shot, I think you were still aiming
18:00 <wrtlprnft> it's another network game, though the network is still improvable
18:00 <wrtlprnft> it tends to hang sometimes
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron says scorched3d is like gunbound, and there was a big flareup of gunbound in the arma community awhile back
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> is wormux for linux?
18:01  * Lucifer_arma checks his package manager
18:01 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: won't find anything usuable there
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> too old, or too new?
18:02 <wrtlprnft> the old releases don't have networking at all, the one alpha they released is quite buggy, you need the SVN version
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> ah
18:02 <Lucifer_arma> is it an artillery game, then?
18:02 <wrtlprnft> like worms
18:02 <wrtlprnft> anyways, need to play a bit on CTWF to see a new map :)
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18:04 <Lucifer_arma> looks interesting
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> when the network play is good, lemme know and I'l give it a shot :)
18:04 <Lucifer_arma> I had looked at scorched3d awhile back, before it had network play, and last week I wanted to see how it was going
18:05 <Lucifer_arma> that's kinda how we got to start playing it, I saw it had network play and told everyone to download it :)
18:07 <wrtlprnft> heh
18:07 <wrtlprnft> i'm a developer for that game in theory, but i only committed minor things yet
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> wanna work on a pirate game?
18:09 <wrtlprnft> ?
18:09 <wrtlprnft> sorry, i missed what it's about, but i saw you talking about it
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> I want to play a pirate game, but none exists (that I know of)
18:09 <wrtlprnft> lemme guess, it's in python?
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> basically, I want to sail around on a ship, raid other ships, etc.
18:09 <Lucifer_arma> um, yeah, of course.  :)
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> I've only got empty files right now, but I read up on sockets and stuff so I'm ready to start in on the server
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> figured when I get it to send chat I'm ready to work on the game seriously
18:10 <wrtlprnft> so you're gonna have a server before local play?
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> but pygame is the only dependency I want
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, no point to having it imo if there's no network play
18:10 <Lucifer_arma> so I figured I'd copy the freeciv model and just have the client start the server for local play
18:10 <wrtlprnft> too lazy to do an AI?
18:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, I'll do an ai, I just don't want to sit and play by myself for months and months before I can play over the network
18:11 <Lucifer_arma> if that happens, I wouldn't stick with it long enough to get it there
18:11 <wrtlprnft> ah
18:11 <Lucifer_arma> no guarantees I'll be able to stick with it anyway, but I still want to play it :)
18:12 <wrtlprnft> i guess you should have developed acme in network mode then :)
18:12 <Lucifer_arma> at least this time I want it to play, there won't be some ulterior motive that once satisifed I'll quit (like leviathan)
18:12 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  acme had more serious problems.  :/  I needed to stop writing it in pygame, and the xml stuff needed a more or less complete rewrite
18:12 <wrtlprnft> leviathan?
18:13 <Lucifer_arma> sub simulator I started a couple summers ago, before my trig class
18:13 <Lucifer_arma> used pyopengl and pygame
18:13 <Lucifer_arma> I got it to a point where you could move around and was adding in torpedoes, then the semester started.  I wanted a trig review, and I got it
18:13 <Lucifer_arma> so after the semester heated up, leviathan became history
18:13 <wrtlprnft> aww
18:14 <Lucifer_arma> I probably still have the code beating around, though, if you wanted to pick up from it
18:14 <Lucifer_arma> but really, there's already a pretty good open source sub simulator, it just does german subs in WWII, and I do want American subs in WWII :)
18:14 <GodTodd> hrmm...think i could get a copy sometime so i have some decent code to learn from?
18:14 <Lucifer_arma> don't know if I'd call it "decent code", but lemme check
18:14 <Lucifer_arma> I had it in an svn repo at some point
18:15 <wrtlprnft> GodTodd: if you want decent code… look at armagetronad's gGame.cpp
18:15 <GodTodd> well to me decent == stuff written by someone who knows more about it than i ;)
18:15 <Lucifer_arma> cvs is where it was, not svn at the time, heh
18:15 <wrtlprnft> then gGame fits that
18:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I've still got it.  I put it in my codedump
18:16 <Lucifer_arma> if you want, I can put it in an svn repo and if you want to work on it, you can commit to the repo
18:16 <GodTodd> see...i know how to program decently...i want to get into GUI and graphics too tho
18:16 <Lucifer_arma> er, are you crazy, wrtlprnft (hi there!) ?  You trying to scar poor GodTodd (hi there!) here?
18:17 <Lucifer_arma> you may as well ask him to crawl under your house and then tell him there's a bunch of rats living under it!
18:17 <GodTodd> heh
18:18 <GodTodd> if you want, I can put it in an svn repo and if you want to work on it, you can commit to the repo <--- that to me or wrtl?
18:18 <GodTodd> heh
18:19 <Lucifer_arma> it was to you, but if he wants in on it I'm cool with that
18:20 <Lucifer_arma> there were a few problems with it you should probably know about, though :)
18:20 <GodTodd> sure...i suppose...not sure if/when i'd be able to work much on it and i'd have to tutor myself on the use of svn :)
18:20 <Lucifer_arma> the math library really really sucks.  I originally wrote it to use knots as the base unit of speed, which meant using imperial units internally
18:21 <Lucifer_arma> I rewrote it at some point to use SI units, but I don't remember how complete that rewrite was
18:21 <Lucifer_arma> angles were manipulated in degrees, which is also bad.  They should internally be radians, and converted to degrees at the last minute to show the user
18:21 <GodTodd> heh
18:21 <Lucifer_arma> and finally, I used atan() instead of atan2(), so there are some quadrant problems in a few places
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> svn's not hard, I can tell you what you need to know to start working with it
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter, I can zip it up and email it to you too
18:22 <GodTodd> either way
18:23 <Lucifer_arma> but if you spend a few minutes working with svn, I've got several projects stashed away that I beat on every now and then, and my svn repo is publicly accessible
18:23 <Lucifer_arma> i.e. unless you're really interested in a sub simulator, I've got lots of code you can get just with an svn client
18:23 <Lucifer_arma> and some of it is better-written
18:23 <GodTodd> that'd probably be the best way then
18:23 <GodTodd> i have a svn client
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> here's the base url first :)
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> http://svn.davefancella.com/
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> then you can add to it anything from this list:
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> davesciv, dsac, dsbp, dsdesktop, dste
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> armagetronad too, but that's a read-only backup of the arma svn hosted on sourceforge
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> davesciv is my freeciv ruleset and tilesets
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> dsac is my alarm clock
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> dsbp is my budget program
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> dsdesktop is my desktop environment
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> dste is my text editor
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18:26 <GodTodd> k
18:26 <Lucifer_arma> I use my alarm clock and text editor every day.  Both require pyqt3, however.
18:26 <Lucifer_arma> they need to be ported to pyqt4.  pyqt3 is not Free on Windows
18:26 <Lucifer_arma> my desktop environment requires X11, which means you need a *nix of some sort
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> my budget program requires pyqt3 also, but needs to be ported to pyqt4.  In fact, that's what I'm doing next, I'm just going to throw away the qt3 UI and rewrite it with pyqt4
18:27 <GodTodd> i have dsl currently on my usb drive
18:27 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: why not just write it in Qt4?
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> "Why do it the easy way when you can do it the hard way?"
18:28 <luke-jr_work> pfft, as if Python is any easier...
18:28 <Lucifer_arma> it is
18:28 <Lucifer_arma> and since none of these programs are high performance, a scripting language is suitable
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> even my desktop environment is python, although it doesn't really work yet.  Haven't had time to screw with it.
18:29 <Lucifer_arma> maybe over christmas break I'll get it working finally.  The window manager has issues.  :)
18:30 <Lucifer_arma> my text editor can use some real attention.  Besides porting it to pyqt4, it's gt a bunch of half-working stuff in it
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> the documentation browser, for example, uses a qt3 widget that doesn't handle more complex xml/xhtml very well, so I wind up using firefox anyway
18:31 <Lucifer_arma> the bug tracker needs testing, it's not well-tested enough for me to actually use it yet.  Chicken and egg problem.
18:31 <GodTodd> heh
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> the file treeview will get the necessary attention with the pyqt4 port, though.  qt4 has really neat changes in how it handles data widgets
18:32 <Lucifer_arma> desktop environment needs to be updated to a newer pyqt4.  The pyqt guy promised to add the x11embed widgets for me so I can embed xterm.  :)  text editor needs that, too.
18:33 <Lucifer_arma> *sigh*  alarm clock needs a pyqt4 port so it can get a windows release.
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> so anyway, if you want to hack code on any of that, make sure you change it to https://svn.THERESTOFIT
18:34 <Lucifer_arma> and tell me so I can put you in there with read/write access
18:38 <GodTodd> k
18:42 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, leviathan was having trouble with fonts
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, no point in looking at leviathan, I don't even know what it's doing
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> it just says "hi there" in the top left corner, no plotter, nothing
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> and it crashes
18:48 <Lucifer_arma> :(
18:50 <GodTodd> hmmm
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> what you might really consider is helping me with my pirate game :)
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> sure there's no code yet, but that's fine :)
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> actually, now there is some
18:51 <Lucifer_arma> there's "import socket"
18:51 <GodTodd> i'd be willing to...dunno how much help i'd be tho :)
18:52 <Lucifer_arma> man, I love this song.  How did Empire turn out such a shitty album with this song on it?  (Empire)
18:52 <GodTodd> i like that album
18:53 <Lucifer_arma> all the love songs get on my nerves.  I listen to a subset of it that's really good and tells the whole story.  :)
18:53 <GodTodd> true...i have to be in a certain mood to enjoy most of it
18:54 <Lucifer_arma> I also object to the message that if the feds spent more money on law enforcement, people would quit shooting each other
18:55 <GodTodd> yeah
18:55 <Lucifer_arma> if the american aristocracy quit grinding poor people under their heels, people would also quit shooting each other so much
18:56 <Lucifer_arma> it's true.  :)  Take any violent criminal and give him a job where he makes $50k/year and it's a certainty that more than half of them would suddenly stop being violent criminals
18:56 <GodTodd> yeah...but no matter what you do there's always going to be violent crime
18:56 <wrtlprnft> i love the help feature of scorched3d…
18:56 <Lucifer_arma> it has a help feature?
18:56 <wrtlprnft> all it does is open a dialog box telling me what address to go to
18:56 <Lucifer_arma> haha
18:57 <GodTodd> maybe luke wrote it
18:57 <luke-jr_work> stfu
18:58 <luke-jr_work> s3d seems like it'd be easy to make a cheat for
18:58 <luke-jr_work> :p
18:58 <wrtlprnft> he wouldn't have written “web site address:”, though, rather “URI”
18:58 <wrtlprnft> as it's actually a file:// URI
18:58 <GodTodd> yes master...i will obey your every command
18:58 <Lucifer_arma> well, you'd have to get it running first
19:02 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i managed to get a little window with a camera following my shots, probably by accident.
19:02 <wrtlprnft> how do i get another one? :D
19:03 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: sure?
19:05 <wrtlprnft> btw, is there a way to make fine adjustments to the shot power?
19:05 <wrtlprnft> if i press shift and - nothing happens, probably because i actually pressed _
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> press c I think
19:20 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know about fine adjustments, I only know you adjust power with -/=
19:29 <Lucifer_arma> anyone here know how to convert rectangular coordinates to spherical coordinates?
19:30 <luke-jr_work> probably
19:30 <luke-jr_work> by spherical, you mean a degree/distance pair?
19:31 <luke-jr_work> distance=sqrt(x^2 + y ^2)
19:31 <luke-jr_work> IIRC
19:31 <luke-jr_work> not sure on degree
19:32 <wrtlprnft> umm, the angle is tan^-1(y/x), but i doubt this is what Lucifer_arma wants
19:33 <wrtlprnft> he wants the whole thing in 3 dimensions, i guess
19:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, 3d
19:33 <Lucifer_arma> polar is 2d
19:33 <Lucifer_arma> I keep getting an extra factor of 2 somewhere that's screwing up the inverse trig functions
19:34 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I shouldn't listen to paula abdul when doing this
19:34 <luke-jr_work> you should listen to me instead
19:34 <luke-jr_work> :)
19:34 <wrtlprnft> bad idea
19:34 <wrtlprnft> never listen to someone who has no idea what he's talking about
19:35 <GodTodd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformation_from_spherical_coordinates_to_rectangular_coordinates#From_Cartesian_coordinates
19:36 <GodTodd> dunno if that's what you're looking for
19:36 <Lucifer_arma> other way.  Actually I skipped the wikipedia links in my google search because wikipedia is usually a complicated explanation that's not better than my textbook :)
19:36 <GodTodd> heh
19:37 <Lucifer_arma> we have it like this:
19:37 <wrtlprnft> the last one looks nice
19:37 <GodTodd> it's just a bunch of formulas
19:37 <wrtlprnft> the one with the matrix
19:37 <Lucifer_arma> (distance, angle from xy plane, angle from xz plane)
19:37 <Lucifer_arma> for distance, you just do sqrt(x^2 + y^2 + z^2), the distance formula!
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> and it seems that in there I'm getting an extra factor of 2 :(
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> the point is (-1, -sqrt(3), 2)
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> you guys figure it out and tell me what you get :)
19:38 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, that point is in rectangular coordinates.  Convert to spherical.
19:38 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: shouldn't it be cubed root?
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> no
19:39 <luke-jr_work> lame
19:39 <GodTodd> 2sqrt(3)
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> ?
19:39 <GodTodd> yeah...anything luke doesn't understand is lame
19:39 <Lucifer_arma> I got 2sqrt(2) for the distance
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> the book says it's just 2
19:40 <wrtlprnft> omg, luke doesn't have any idea
19:40 <GodTodd> bah...yeah...2sqrt(2) is what i got too
19:40 <GodTodd> sqrt(8)
19:40 <wrtlprnft> it's sqrt(x²+(sqrt(y²+z²))²)
19:40 <wrtlprnft> and the second sqrt cancels the ²
19:41 <wrtlprnft> so you're left with √(x²+y²+z²)
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> man, I'd like to know how you're doing *that*
19:41 <GodTodd> it works out to the 3d distance formula
19:41 <Lucifer_arma> right.  just like in polar, the radius is figured using the distance formula in 2d :)
19:42 <GodTodd> yep
19:42 <GodTodd> i'm still getting 2sqrt(2) tho
19:42 <GodTodd> hmmm
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> er, nvm
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> I figured out what I did wrong
19:42 <Lucifer_arma> haha
19:43 <Lucifer_arma> sorry
19:43 <Lucifer_arma> apparently the directions say "cyclindrical coordinates", not "spherical" :)
19:43 <GodTodd> haha
19:43 <Lucifer_arma> *cylindrical
19:43 <GodTodd> well then....*that's* 2
19:43 <GodTodd> :P
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> ok, the point now is (1, -1, 4)
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> convert to cylindrical :)
19:44 <Lucifer_arma> (part a of the problem, have to restart now)
19:45 <GodTodd> doing distance?
19:45 <GodTodd> or what?
19:45 <Lucifer_arma> convert to cylindrical coordinates
19:45 <Lucifer_arma> might need to google again, but all the google results I found were pages that also had cylindrical on them
19:45 <GodTodd> r would be sqrt(2)
19:46 <Lucifer_arma> man, it's just polar with the z coordinate copying over
19:47 <GodTodd> so like (sqrt(2), -45, 4)?
19:47 <Lucifer_arma> not even worth doing after you figure that out, but I better just because I spent so much time trying to make the spherical coordinates I came up with match :)
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> i'm getting a pi/4 angle for the angle
19:48 <GodTodd> err...in polar does theta need to be in the domain of 0-2pi?
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> make it 7pi/4
19:48 <GodTodd> yeah...7pi/4 == -45
19:48 <Lucifer_arma> not really, but by convention you should stick with it
19:49 <GodTodd> 45 degree angle in quadrant 4
19:49 <Lucifer_arma> don't speak degrees!  :)
19:49 <GodTodd> converting to/from polar will be on my final tomorrow
19:49 <GodTodd> heh...we still use both right now :P
19:49 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, pi/4 is the reference angle for tan = 1
19:49 <GodTodd> yeah
19:50 <GodTodd> in fact...a problem or two on the final should be converting to/from rads
19:50 <Lucifer_arma> then, since y = -1 and x = 1, it's fourth quadrant
19:50 <GodTodd> yep
19:50 <GodTodd> 7pi/4
19:50 <Lucifer_arma> I have to convert from degrees to radians sometimes now to figure out the angle :)
19:51 <GodTodd> i think it's next semester we'll go pretty exclusive to rads
19:51 <GodTodd> precal isn't it?
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> nah, never happens
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> at least, not in my school
19:51 <Lucifer_arma> we had degrees come up this semester
19:51 <GodTodd> ah ok :)
19:52 <GodTodd> while talking conversions....without looking it up....x = rcos(theta) and y = rsin(theta), right?
19:53 <GodTodd> converting from polar to cartesian
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> yes
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, was providing a pencil for my wife
19:56 <Lucifer_arma> I've been rationing the pencils ever since last spring when she lost something like 15 pencils in 2 months
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> I was able to find and collect most of them, and all of the extra lead and stashed them
19:57 <Lucifer_arma> she's not supposed to take any now without asking me :)
19:58 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that's the same conversion you do with vectors
20:01 <GodTodd> heh...i need to get more lead for my pencils
20:01 <GodTodd> yeah...just reviewing for my final...we can have 5 fromulas on an index card...not sure what i'll choose
20:02 <GodTodd> formulas*
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> half angle formula :)
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> lucky you, my trig teacher doesn't believe in notes on tests
20:03 <Lucifer_arma> he'll be my calc 4 teacher next semester :)
20:03 <GodTodd> i'm thinking something with half and double angle formulas, yeah
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you didn't memorize the other formulas in the class you're kinda fucked, they're all really easy
20:04 <GodTodd> thing is...i'm almost assured of a B in the class with a small chance at still pulling an A
20:04 <Lucifer_arma> so I'd pick the identities that are hardest to remember
20:04 <GodTodd> yeah
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20:05 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
20:05 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
20:07 <Lucifer_arma> man, the keyboard part in this song is wicked
20:08 <Vanhayes> what song?
20:08 <Lucifer_arma> you're going to laugh, but I shit you not.  Bon Jovi - I'd Die for You.  Try it in headphones, the keyboards are in the right side
20:09 <Lucifer_arma> ok, rectangular to spherical now.  (1, sqrt(3), 2sqrt(3) )
20:14 <GodTodd> (2sqrt(3), pi/3, pi/6) ?
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> how'd you get the angles right and the distance wrong?  :)
20:15 <Lucifer_arma> distance is 4
20:15 <GodTodd> ummm dunno :)
20:15 <GodTodd> oh...cuz i did 2sqrt(3) as sqrt(8) instead of sqrt(12)
20:16 <Lucifer_arma> sqrt(16) ?
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20:16 <GodTodd> yeah...(4, pi/3, pi/6)
20:16 <Lucifer_arma> because it's sqrt(1 + sqrt(3)^2 + 4sqrt(3)^2)
20:17 <GodTodd> yeah..i did sqrt(1+3+8) instead of sqrt(1+3+12)
20:17 <GodTodd> arithmetic problem
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> ah
20:17 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, now I get to do double integrals over a rectangular region :/
20:18 <GodTodd> seems i'll have no problem picking up spherical and cylindrical conversions when i hit them :)
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> I missed 2 classes in this chapter and the test is thursday, and like always I've procrastinated all the homework
20:18 <Lucifer_arma> nah, that's not hard.  Later on I have to convert functions to spherical/cylindrical because that makes it possible to integrate them
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> which is why we didn't do the section I was just doing until right before the hairy integration chapter
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> but one of the classes I missed was the coordinate conversion class :)
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20:20 <GodTodd> heh
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20:33 <Lucifer_arma> anybody up for a few rounds of scorched3d?
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20:48 <spidey> omg
20:49 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, GodTodd where you just fuckingg with me on that prealgerbra?
20:49 <spidey> cause i made a 65 on it..
20:49 <spidey> made a 100 on my physical science though :D
20:51 <Lucifer_arma> no, we weren't fucking with you
20:51 <Lucifer_arma> what did you do wrong?
20:52 <spidey> dunno
20:52 <spidey> they didn't let me look at the test
20:52 <spidey> just showed me my receipt
20:52 <spidey> i have to retake it again ;(
20:54 <Lucifer_arma> come played scorched3d :)
20:54 <Lucifer_arma> I'm on some server
20:54 <spidey> which one?
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20:55 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
20:55 <spidey> which one? :p
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> don't know, look at the lists
20:55 <Lucifer_arma> something that starts with a, players are listed :)
20:55 <spidey> o
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20:59 <GodTodd> spidey: no...i never fuck around with math :)
21:05 <spidey> :(
21:05 <spidey> i don't understand how i failed it though
21:05 <spidey> i used the exact same things
21:05 <GodTodd> without seeing what you did, neither do i
21:09 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should start a server, these guys take a long time to go
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21:10 <spidey> someone wants me to play halo with them
21:22 <Lucifer_arma> games take too long when you get killed early :/
21:22 <Vanhayes> ya
21:22 <Vanhayes> ive been waiting for quite a while
21:23 <Vanhayes> takes even longer when one or 2 people go afk for a while
21:33 <DrJoeTron> that was the most painless final ever
21:33 <DrJoeTron> this is the difficulty of my major?
21:33 <DrJoeTron> my god im a loser
21:38 <Lucifer_arma> what's your major now?
21:46 <DrJoeTron> graphic design
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> omfgluserroflcopter!
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> dude, go back to aol!
21:47 <Lucifer_arma> AOL - where "LOL" is a full stop
21:48 <DrJoeTron> ahaha
21:48 <DrJoeTron> but yeah
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> do you really want to do graphic design, or are you settling?
21:50 <DrJoeTron> settling
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> keeping in mind that you can always go back when you're old to learn what you really want to learn to do what you really want to do
21:51  * Lucifer_arma doesn't settle.  Hopefully nobody ever tries to sue him.
21:51 <DrJoeTron> well I realized for what I want to really do I don't need a degree but it helps
21:51 <DrJoeTron> yuk yuk yuk
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> what do you want to do?
21:51 <DrJoeTron> music
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> could you be a little more specific?  :)
21:52 <DrJoeTron> music performance :)
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> symphony, rock band, hired hand, what?
21:52 <DrJoeTron> anything
21:52 <DrJoeTron> thats just it
21:52 <DrJoeTron> I'm that vague for a reason
21:52 <Lucifer_arma> you want to get up on stage, beat some drums and wave your cock around?
21:53 <DrJoeTron> rock out with my cock out ;)
21:53 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, s3d?
21:53 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, not right now.  Working on my pirate game, then studying and going to class
21:53 <spidey> lol
21:53 <spidey> k
21:57 <spidey> #h 15:30 pst in pst
21:57 <spidey> #g 15:30 pst in pst
21:57 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:57 <spidey> #g 15:30 pst in cdt
21:57 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:57 <spidey> #g 15:30 PST in CDT
21:57 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:57 <spidey> ....
21:58 <spidey> #g 15:30 PST in CST
21:58 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:58 <spidey> hm
21:58 <spidey> gay
21:59 <GodTodd> spidey: 15:30 PST is 17:30 CST
21:59  * GodTodd fills in for armabot :)
21:59 <spidey> lol
22:00 <spidey> well
22:00 <spidey> i think it's CDT
22:00 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping?
22:00 <GodTodd> still 2 hours difference
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> ?
22:00 <spidey> are we in CDT?
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> no
22:00 <spidey> or is it CSt already
22:00 <spidey> CST?
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> CST
22:00 <GodTodd> we gained an hour
22:00 <GodTodd> so it's cst
22:00 <spidey> o
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> daylight savings is in the summer when we have to be frugal with our daylight
22:01  * Lucifer_arma was always confused about it, finally had to just learn it by rote
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> biscally, just know that you're in standard time on Christmas in the northern hemisphere
22:01 <GodTodd> so in the summer we're rationing water *and* sunlight? damn....what else can i not use?
22:01 <GodTodd> heh
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> remember that, and you can usually figure out what you're in now
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, shaving cream?
22:01 <GodTodd> have an electric
22:01 <GodTodd> dun need cream
22:02 <spidey> lol
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22:13 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I made the client send a message to the server :)
22:13 <spidey> lol
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> it says "Hi there!"
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> yay, now it knows your ip address and port
22:18 <spidey> ...
22:18  * spidey pictures the game luci's making as freeciv, pirates, and nukes
22:18 <spidey> ZOMG!
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> now I need to think a bit about how to put these pieces together to make a simple login/logout protocol and chat
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> then I can get the client written to handle chat, which takes a fair amount of UI work.  Then I can start on the pirate part proper :)
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22:23 <spidey> http://www.maclive.net/sid/134
22:26 <spidey> http://maclive.net/sid/135
22:27 <spidey> http://www.maclive.net/sid/136
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22:44 <DrJoeTron> I just found a program to just suck my resources away for fun
22:44 <ghableska> o.0
22:44 <ghableska> why would you want to do that?
22:44 <DrJoeTron> because its cool 
22:44 <DrJoeTron> http://codefromthe70s.org/desktopearth_dl.asp
22:44 <DrJoeTron> its kinda neat
22:45 <ghableska> Wow, it is!
22:45 <DrJoeTron> haha
22:45 <ghableska> :P
22:46 <DrJoeTron> I have it set to update clouds ever 3 hours, and time ever 15 minutes
22:46 <ghableska> cool
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22:47 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
22:47 <spidey> defcon got beefed up :D
22:47 <spidey> v1.2
22:47 <spidey> supports mods
22:49 <spidey> http://defcon.s4l.dk/screens/mods/satcon5.jpg
22:49 <spidey> http://defcon.s4l.dk/screens/mods/polar1.jpg
22:55 <DrJoeTron> it should have in the first place
22:55 <DrJoeTron> I didnt even know it patched
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23:06 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:06 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (3:54 PM CST on December 12, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa. 
23:10 <wrtlprnft> s3d certainly is addictive
23:10 <ghableska> heh
23:10 <wrtlprnft> and the volcano attack is cool :)
23:11  * ghableska still needs to buy new weapons
23:11 <Vanhayes> my favorite is the dirt wall
23:11 <Vanhayes> well those plus a nuke
23:11 <DrJoeTron> I like the city maps
23:11 <ghableska> haah
23:11 <DrJoeTron> because I'm a horrible human being
23:12 <ghableska> so do spidey and Lucifer_arma both have servers now?
23:12 <Vanhayes> heh, the screams are pretty realistic
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> haha
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> um, I'm not running a fulltime server, I just setup my nat so I can run a server when we want to play
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> same deal with freeciv :)
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23:39 <spidey> ghableska, i'm same as Lucifer_arma :p
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23:40 <Your_mom_arma> ?
23:40 <ghableska> hmm
23:40  * ghableska just blew up himself with a Tsar Bomba
23:41 <Your_mom_arma> you guys playing online?
23:41 <ghableska> yeah
23:41 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: btw, found the answers to my questions: you get the extra view by pressing “v” and you can only have one of them, and to slowly adjust the shot power use shift+(page up|page down)
23:41 <ghableska> on some random server...
23:41 <Your_mom_arma> which one?
23:41 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@p50923C39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["leaving"]
23:41 <ghableska> I don't know :P
23:42 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6173535.stm <-- what's the use of a laser sight if you're blind?
23:42 <Your_mom_arma> anyone else playing, know which server so i can join?
23:43 <wrtlprnft> not me, i'll go to bed soon
23:44 <ghableska> Your_mom_arma: it was an apoc server
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23:45 <Your_mom_arma> why would you want to give guns to blind people, no offence to blind people. Even people with perfect vision end up shooting other people by"accident" while hunting
23:46 <ghableska> heh
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01:20 <RickyRoss> hi
01:20 <RickyRoss> is luke here
01:20 <luke-jr_work> ...
01:20 <luke-jr_work> not for long
01:20 <RickyRoss> i want to purchase hosting..
01:20 <luke-jr_work> going home now, back in 20
01:20 <RickyRoss> uh, i was going to buy hosting.
01:20 <luke-jr_work> ok
01:20 <RickyRoss> do oyou accept paypal
01:20 <luke-jr_work> can it wait 20 minutes or so please?
01:20 <luke-jr_work> yes
01:21 <RickyRoss> yes i'll come in 20 minutes.
01:21 <luke-jr_work> ok
01:21 <luke-jr_work> thanks
01:21 <RickyRoss> no problem
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01:25 <spidey> lol
01:25 <GodTodd> mpm
01:25 <GodTodd> knk
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> ;p;
01:26 <spidey> NO FucKING WAY
01:26 <GodTodd> knk is in the 2001 mold
01:26 <GodTodd> with hal
01:26 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, DrJoeTron Lucifer_arma GodTodd wrtlprnft ping PING PING ping
01:26 <spidey> Vanhayes, to
01:26 <GodTodd> what?
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> GodTodd: what are yiu talking about?
01:27 <spidey> s3d?
01:27 <GodTodd> can't right now
01:27 <spidey> anyone else? :p
01:27 <Vanhayes> pong
01:27 <spidey> s3d?
01:27 <Your_mom_arma> evil hal red seeing eye computer?
01:27 <GodTodd> Your_mom_arma: wasn't it the 2001 movie that had Hal the computer?
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> dont remember the year
01:28 <GodTodd> it was one of those
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> but whats knk?
01:28 <GodTodd> lol
01:28 <spidey> Your_mom_arma, Vanhayes  scorched3d? :)
01:28 <GodTodd> take HAL and add one to each letter
01:28 <GodTodd> you get IBM
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:29 <GodTodd> take knk and add one to each letter
01:29 <GodTodd> you get lol
01:29 <spidey> 1o1
01:29 <spidey> lol
01:29 <GodTodd> my server is named Hal :)
01:29 <spidey> hm
01:29 <spidey> font is retarded
01:29 <spidey> 1 looks like a l
01:29 <GodTodd> 1337
01:30 <spidey> hells yea
01:30 <spidey> my font comes preequipted beotch!
01:30 <GodTodd> preequipted? wtf is that?
01:30 <Your_mom_arma> irc chat gets filtered so i dont have to see color chat etc
01:30 <Your_mom_arma> ^my
01:31 <Your_mom_arma> is it a ted that has to be pre equiped?
01:32 <spidey> THEY CALL ME
01:33 <spidey> THE INCREDIBALE SPIDEY!
01:33 <Vanhayes> by they do you mean yourslef?
01:33 <Vanhayes> yourself*
01:33 <spidey> you secretly call me that
01:33 <Your_mom_arma> #dict INCREDIBALE
01:33 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: No definition for "INCREDIBALE" could be found.
01:33 <Vanhayes> heh
01:33 <spidey> #dict incredibale
01:33 <armabot> spidey: No definition for "incredibale" could be found.
01:33 <spidey> hm
01:34 <spidey> #check incredibal
01:34 <spidey> #check incredibale
01:34 <armabot> spidey: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
01:34 <spidey> ......
01:34 <armabot> spidey: incredible
01:34 <spidey> THEY CALL ME
01:34 <spidey> THE INCREDIBLE SPIDEY
01:34 <spidey> ;x
01:34 <Your_mom_arma> can we get 4 people for scorched?
01:34 <spidey> i'm up for it
01:35 <spidey> hayes? Lucifer_arma wrtlprnft ??
01:35 <Your_mom_arma> well 3 people is okay but falls apart easily
01:36 <Vanhayes> well im pretty beat, I was turkey jerking for 7 hours last night, got home around 4 am, I think ill go to bed pretty soon
01:37 <Vanhayes> oh ya, turnkey jerking isnt what it sounds like
01:37 <spidey> you played with yourself for 7 hours??
01:37 <spidey> wow
01:37 <spidey> that's like
01:37 <spidey> a record
01:37 <Vanhayes> got paid 50 buvks too
01:37 <Vanhayes> bucks*
01:38 <Vanhayes> turkey jerking= grabbing the turkies feet and throwing them in a truck
01:39 <Vanhayes> it was intense,around 10-12 of us filled 2 and a half flatbed trucks full of turkeys
01:40 <Vanhayes> I think the guy said there were a round 6000
01:40 <GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?
01:40 <spidey> LOLOLOLOOL!!
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01:41 <spidey> #quote add <GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?
01:41 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.  Quote #38 added.
01:41 <Vanhayes> damnit I said turkey jerking isnt what it sounds like
01:42 <spidey> #quote get 38
01:42 <armabot> spidey: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
01:42 <ghableska> O_o
01:42 <ghableska> Vanhayes: sicko
01:42 <spidey> i couldn't help it
01:42 <spidey> it was so funny
01:42 <spidey> ;x
01:43 <Vanhayes> spidey sucks cow dick?
01:43 <Vanhayes> #quote add spidey sucks cow dick?
01:44 <armabot> Vanhayes: The operation succeeded.  Quote #39 added.
01:44 <Vanhayes> bam
01:44 <spidey> ..
01:44 <spidey> wow
01:44 <spidey> you can make shit up
01:44 <spidey> to bad that topic wasn't actually discussed
01:44 <spidey> because
01:44 <spidey> HAYES JERKS OFF TURKEYS!
01:44 <ghableska> #realchatlogs
01:44 <armabot> ghableska: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
01:44 <ghableska> :D
01:45 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:45 <Vanhayes> meh
01:45 <Vanhayes> #quote get 39
01:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: Quote #39: "spidey sucks cow dick?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:47 AM, December 13, 2006)
01:45 <spidey> #realchatlogs
01:45 <armabot> spidey: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
01:45 <ghableska> <Vanhayes> well im pretty beat, I was turkey jerking for 7 hours last night, got home around 4 am, I think ill go to bed pretty soon
01:45 <ghableska> ...
01:46 <luke-jr> ...
01:46 <ghableska> what were you trying to say?
01:46 <Vanhayes> oh ya, turnkey jerking isnt what it sounds like
01:46 <Vanhayes> that was right after it
01:46 <ghableska> ...?
01:46 <spidey> hayes jerks turkeys! :P
01:46 <Vanhayes> it is the name of the type of work
01:46 <luke-jr> so who is RickyRoss? :p
01:46 <ghableska> what do you do?
01:47 <ghableska> spidey: you are anything but incredible
01:47 <spidey> some guy i told you're a bad host
01:47 <spidey> so he isn't coming back
01:47 <Vanhayes> you grab the legs of a turkey in one hand, then grab the legs of another one in the other hand, pass them out the window to guys on flatbed trucks who then put them in crates to be shipped
01:48 <spidey> ghableska, shush munchin
01:48 <Vanhayes> do that untill they are all out of the 2 storied barn
01:48 <ghableska> hmm?
01:48 <ghableska> are they alive?
01:48 <Vanhayes> yup
01:48 <Vanhayes> and about 20-25 pounds each
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01:49 <ghableska> oops
01:51 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:51 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (5:54 PM CST on December 12, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa. 
02:00 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
02:01 <Vanhayes> #ping
02:02 <armabot> pong
02:02 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 16°F / -9°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.66in / 1038hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM AST; Tonight - Clear. Low minus 11 with temperature rising to minus 2 by morning.; Wednesday - Increasing cloudiness early in the morning. Wind becoming southwest 20 km/h in the morning. High 6. Wednesday night..periods of rain. Amount 5 to 10 mm. (1 more message)
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02:08 <GodTodd> ls
02:08 <GodTodd> oops
02:08 <GodTodd> heh
02:08 <ghableska> O_o
02:15 <ghableska> http://www.amazon.com/JL421-Badonkadonk-Land-Cruiser-Tank/dp/B00067F1CE/sr=8-1/qid=1165972571/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0406121-0648719?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous
02:15 <spidey> luke-jr, ping
02:16 <luke-jr> ...
02:16 <spidey> pm
02:16 <ghableska> spidey, luke-jr: http://www.amazon.com/JL421-Badonkadonk-Land-Cruiser-Tank/dp/B00067F1CE/sr=8-1/qid=1165972571/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0406121-0648719?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous
02:16 <ghableska> :P
02:16 <spidey> noob
02:16 <spidey> actually
02:16 <spidey> i'd drive it
02:17 <spidey> just so people look at me
02:17 <spidey> and go
02:17 <spidey> WTF IS HE DRIVING
02:17 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badonkadonk
02:17 <ghableska> O_O
02:31 <ghableska> #google density of mercury
02:31 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
02:31 <ghableska> -_-
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02:37 <RickyRoss> is luke here 
02:38 <luke-jr> yes
02:38 <RickyRoss> whats your paypal id
02:38 <luke-jr> O.o
02:38 <RickyRoss> send me a money request to eyeblaser47@gmail.com
02:38 <luke-jr> luke-jr_paypal@dashjr.is-a-geek.org
02:38 <RickyRoss> i want to purcahse hosting for a month
02:38 <luke-jr> ok
02:38 <RickyRoss> 32 player server
02:38 <luke-jr> US or Europe?
02:38 <RickyRoss> 32 bucks right?
02:38 <RickyRoss> US
02:39 <luke-jr> yeah
02:39 <RickyRoss> k 
02:39 <RickyRoss> esnd me a money reqest
02:40 <luke-jr> ok sent
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02:40 <luke-jr> ...
02:40 <spidey> lol!
02:41 <luke-jr> wtf
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02:41 <luke-jr> ...
02:41 <RickyRoss> i didn't receieve a money request yet
02:41 <luke-jr> I just sent it
02:41 <RickyRoss> k let me cehck
02:41 <luke-jr> please type /join #armalukechat
02:41 <RickyRoss> #armalukechat
02:42 <spidey> ROFL!
02:43 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: pong
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02:52 <spidey> p,g
02:53 <spidey> omg
02:53 <spidey> down to 1 cigarette a day
02:53 <luke-jr> o.o
02:53 <ghableska> congrats
02:53 <ghableska> how many was it before?
02:53 <spidey> pack 1/2
02:53 <ghableska> O_O
02:53 <spidey> sometimes less or more
02:53 <spidey> depending on my mood
02:54 <luke-jr> lol
02:55 <Vanhayes> quitter
02:55 <spidey> stfu turkey jerker
02:55 <ghableska> haha
02:55 <Vanhayes> 50$ richer for it too
02:55 <spidey> $50 wouldn't get me to jerk off a turkey
02:56 <spidey> noob
02:56 <luke-jr> spidey'll be $50 richer in a few months if he keeps at it :p
02:56 <spidey> ??
02:56 <luke-jr> I'm sure cigs add up
02:57 <spidey> hell yea
02:57 <spidey> #g $3/day * 30 days
02:57 <armabot> spidey: ((US$ 3) / day) * (30 days) = 90 U.S. dollars
02:57 <spidey> $90 a month
02:57 <Vanhayes> what costs 3 bucks?
02:58 <spidey> sanoma
02:58 <spidey> sonoma
02:58 <Vanhayes> a pack of those costs 3$ O-o
02:58 <spidey> they taste the same as marlboro
02:58 <spidey> but cheaper
02:58 <spidey> well
02:58 <spidey> kinda
02:58 <spidey> 2 packs for $5
02:58 <spidey> or so
02:58 <Vanhayes> 2.50
02:59 <Vanhayes> how many in a pack?
02:59 <spidey> so
02:59 <spidey> #g $2.50/day * 30 days
02:59 <armabot> spidey: ((US$ 2.50) / day) * (30 days) = 75 U.S. dollars
02:59 <spidey> 20
02:59 <Vanhayes> wow, cigs are cheap in the states
02:59 <spidey> not really
02:59 <Vanhayes> 10$ bucks for a average brand of 25 
03:00 <Vanhayes> here
03:00 <spidey> @2.50 USD in CAD
03:00 <spidey> #g $2.50 USD in CAD
03:00 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
03:00 <spidey> #g 2.50 USD in CAD
03:00 <armabot> spidey: 2.50 U.S. dollars = 2.87175 Canadian dollars
03:00 <spidey> ..
03:00 <Vanhayes> a pack of 25 cigs cost around $10 here
03:00 <spidey> heh
03:00 <spidey> we don't have 25 packs
03:00 <spidey> only 20
03:01 <Vanhayes> unless they are indian, then its around 5
03:01 <luke-jr> lol
03:01 <Vanhayes> anyways, im beat, good night
03:01 <Vanhayes> #night
03:01 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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03:02 <spidey> hm 
03:04 <DrJoeTron> what should I do for an avatar?
03:04 <spidey> oh
03:05 <spidey> make me one
03:05 <spidey> make it say
03:05 <spidey> "hayes is a turky jerker"
03:05 <DrJoeTron> after I get mine done
03:05 <spidey> cool
03:05 <DrJoeTron> because I can only upload one once
03:05 <spidey> and make a background
03:05 <spidey> make it
03:05 <spidey> a turky
03:05 <spidey> getting running
03:06 <spidey> and a human chasing
03:06 <spidey> ans label the human
03:06 <spidey> "hayes"
03:06 <DrJoeTron> and juggeling?
03:06 <spidey> 'er
03:06 <spidey> and make it a turkey running 
03:06 <spidey> and a human chasing
03:06 <spidey> and label the human "Vanhayes"
03:06 <spidey> i'll use :D
03:07 <DrJoeTron> should I use one of the dwh ones?
03:07 <spidey> dwh?
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03:09 <RickyRoss> hi
03:09 <RickyRoss> got disconnected
03:09 <luke-jr> please type /join #armalukechat
03:10 <spidey> /join #armalukechat
03:11 <luke-jr> stfu spidey
03:11 <spidey> i refuse
03:11 <[NP]Tangent> even I joined it, spidey
03:12 <[NP]Tangent> you have no excuse
03:12 <spidey> i do
03:12 <spidey> my short term memory is messed up
03:12 <[NP]Tangent> you can't remember the channel?
03:12 <spidey> remember what channel?
03:12 <[NP]Tangent> #armalukechat 
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03:13 <DrJoeTron> any ideas for an avatar?
03:13 <spidey> i just sdaid
03:13 <spidey> ...
03:13 <Legit> a super duck
03:13 <spidey> sheesh
03:14 <DrJoeTron> not for you spidey 
03:14 <DrJoeTron> for me
03:14 <spidey> oh
03:14 <spidey> you gonna make that one for me?
03:14 <spidey> i'll use it
03:14 <spidey> :D
03:14 <RickyRoss> avatars are for losers
03:14 <RickyRoss> i ride dirty
03:14 <spidey> ...
03:14 <DrJoeTron> someone spent 5 bucks on me to use an avatar
03:14 <Legit> super ducks r better then spiderds
03:15 <RickyRoss> spider nerds
03:15 <RickyRoss> :O
03:15 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: pong :P
03:15 <DrJoeTron> heya
03:16 <RickyRoss> o rly
03:16 <DrJoeTron> sup /b/?
03:16 <ghableska> http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=news&id=871&cc=-- :D
03:16 <RickyRoss>  i have two steam accounts
03:16 <RickyRoss> i bought the whole valve pack on both
03:16 <RickyRoss> one for my friend one for me
03:17 <RickyRoss> so we can play css and half life 2
03:18 <DrJoeTron> does this mean I can send myself steam passes? :p
03:18 <ghableska> haha
03:19 <ghableska> what would be the point though?
03:19 <ghableska> if you already have the game...
03:19 <RickyRoss> he wants to play wit himself
03:19 <RickyRoss> :O
03:20 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:20 <DrJoeTron> that and DOD
03:22 <GodTodd> joe
03:22 <DrJoeTron> yessir?
03:22 <GodTodd> bite me
03:22 <GodTodd> :)
03:22 <DrJoeTron> does it pay?
03:23 <GodTodd> only if you have money to give me
03:27 <DrJoeTron> I like where this is going
03:27 <GodTodd> you would
03:27 <GodTodd> you slut
03:27 <DrJoeTron> you know it
03:28 <ghableska> *gasp*
03:28 <ghableska> DrJoeTron? never!
03:28 <DrJoeTron> oh yeah
03:28 <DrJoeTron> talk dirty to me
03:28 <RickyRoss> a sudden burst of talking
03:28 <DrJoeTron> shut up ghableska, get back in the car and shut up!
03:28 <RickyRoss> my milkshare brings drjoetron to the yard
03:28 <DrJoeTron> no where were we
03:28 <DrJoeTron> like hell it does, 
03:28 <RickyRoss> hells yes
03:29 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd knows how to treat a man
03:29  * GodTodd is joe's pimp.
03:29 <DrJoeTron> thats right
03:29 <RickyRoss> joe gets p00ntang
03:29 <DrJoeTron> hey babeh, wanna kill all humans?
03:29 <GodTodd> heh
03:29 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd treats me like garbage
03:30 <DrJoeTron> but he knows thats how I like it
03:30 <RickyRoss> then dont play with fire
03:30 <DrJoeTron> I enjoy the burn
03:30 <RickyRoss> make a baby momma slap a dadd baby
03:30 <GodTodd> rug burns?
03:31 <RickyRoss> stunting like my daddy lalalalalal
03:31 <GodTodd> i told you, joe...no more rugs till you know how to keep them from getting sticky
03:31 <ghableska> >_>
03:31 <RickyRoss> :<
03:31 <DrJoeTron> aw come on please babeh, I is jonesin
03:31 <RickyRoss> luke jr! i have ur phone number
03:32 <RickyRoss> can i pls call you
03:32 <luke-jr> ...
03:32 <RickyRoss> lwl
03:32 <luke-jr> go ahead
03:32 <RickyRoss> haha, i
03:32 <RickyRoss> i'd use skype
03:32 <DrJoeTron> can I call you?
03:32 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr?
03:32 <RickyRoss> can i give them ur phone number
03:32 <RickyRoss> the one that starts wit 9113
03:32 <RickyRoss> 913*
03:32 <luke-jr> skype sux :p
03:32 <DrJoeTron> I know you've been so eager to call me all of thes times
03:32 <RickyRoss> you guys can have phone secs
03:33 <luke-jr> ok, no more phone calls :o
03:33  * luke-jr unplugs phones
03:33 <DrJoeTron> yeah we can do whatever he just said, that thing that wasnt a word
03:33  * RickyRoss memorizes luke's phone #
03:33 <luke-jr> I need to go shopping >.>
03:33 <luke-jr> bbiab
03:33 <RickyRoss> bei
03:33  * DrJoeTron wants to try playing HL2 with the Wiimote
03:34 <DrJoeTron> speaking of 
03:34 <RickyRoss> drjoetron u have wii?
03:34 <RickyRoss> i bought a wii mote and nunchuk off dell.com since everywhere is sold out
03:34 <RickyRoss> i pwn, creativeness
03:34 <DrJoeTron> hey Your_mom_arma did you see the shit you could do with the wiimote now?
03:34 <DrJoeTron> I dont, I'm trying to get one
03:34 <RickyRoss> you can use it on comp
03:34 <DrJoeTron> I just said you could
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03:35 <RickyRoss> HEY
03:35 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma check this out http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2211960 
03:36 <RickyRoss> ct is going to be dead
03:36 <RickyRoss> i bought a 32 player off luke and i'm going to run the best maps
03:36 <DrJoeTron> pft
03:36 <RickyRoss> the ones they have, i got a copy and a roater
03:36 <RickyRoss> muthatruckers
03:37 <DrJoeTron> now the lobster cage, thats a cool servers
03:37 <RickyRoss> 32 yeqars ago
03:37 <DrJoeTron> I hear thats where all the fly honeys get bizzay
03:37 <RickyRoss> o rly
03:37 <DrJoeTron> seriously
03:37 <DrJoeTron> do you go to 4chan or something
03:37 <RickyRoss> i dont believe u lets throw down
03:38 <RickyRoss> biatch
03:38 <RickyRoss> you nawber got pawnd
03:38 <RickyRoss> skeet skeet
03:38 <DrJoeTron> #rules
03:38 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
03:39 <RickyRoss> #rules
03:39 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
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03:58 <Lucifer_arma> who the fuck was that?
04:00 <DrJoeTron> someone who learned whatirc was?
04:02 <GodTodd> it was joe's new fuck toy
04:02 <GodTodd> he's cheating on me :(
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04:06 <RickyRoss> luke
04:06 <RickyRoss> done?
04:10 <GodTodd> hrmm...it's qt4 that isn't available for windows for free?
04:10 <Your_mom_arma> joe the wiimote / windows mouse stuff i knew about
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04:16 <Your_mom_arma> wb
04:16 <ghableska> thanks
04:17 <DrJoeTron> ah ok
04:17 <Your_mom_arma> didnt know they did it on linux too but im not suprised
04:18 <DrJoeTron> should I just use my current avatar?
04:18 <Your_mom_arma> ?
04:18 <DrJoeTron> for SA
04:18 <DrJoeTron> I was "adopted" and the guy decided he liked me enough to buy me an avatar gift certificate
04:18 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2222932 and the fun ensued
04:20 <ghableska> hahaha
04:20 <ghableska> you're cute and quirky? O_o
04:20 <ghableska> since when?
04:20 <DrJoeTron> since never
04:20 <DrJoeTron> they allow all types of errors in byob
04:20 <DrJoeTron> its just a madhouse
04:21 <ghableska> byob?
04:21 <DrJoeTron> I dont think it even stands for anything
04:21 <ghableska> o0
04:22 <Your_mom_arma> bring your own beer?
04:22 <DrJoeTron> not for this one
04:22 <DrJoeTron> its like a really really nice purply version of fyad
04:22 <DrJoeTron> which is fuck yourself and die
04:23 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:23 <DrJoeTron> in fyad your post count go down into the negatives
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04:23 <DrJoeTron> and byob your posts dont change.
04:30 <DrJoeTron> alright
04:33 <DrJoeTron> http://67.37.179.152/RCM.gif Your_mom_arma you might good with this, I need to come up with a custom title to fit this.
04:35 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
04:37 <DrJoeTron> I need text to fallow it
04:37 <ghableska> "Mop it up!"
04:37 <Your_mom_arma> pick up the coins
04:37 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> man, why doesn't that asshole come in here when I'm actually watching?
04:38 <DrJoeTron> mom your's is going to be it unless I can come up something better
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04:39 <DrJoeTron> man this desktop earth thing is really fucking cool
04:39 <DrJoeTron> I dont care if its taking 7 megs of resources
04:39 <ghableska> :P
04:40 <DrJoeTron> not like I cant sacrifice it
04:40 <DrJoeTron> I wish I could see the entire world
04:40 <DrJoeTron> it cuts off at new zealand and eastern africa
04:41 <DrJoeTron> and russia
04:41 <DrJoeTron> I dont think it even gets that far
04:41 <ghableska> same here
04:41 <DrJoeTron> oh there we go
04:41 <DrJoeTron> set it to sunset
04:41 <DrJoeTron> it just rotates it
04:41 <DrJoeTron> thats really cool
04:42 <ghableska> ?
04:42 <DrJoeTron> click the earth
04:42 <DrJoeTron> tray icon I mean
04:42 <Your_mom_arma> luci is there a way to remove spam links in the wiki's history?
04:42 <ghableska> oh, I see it
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> not that I know of
04:42 <DrJoeTron> and instead of centered on timezone
04:42 <DrJoeTron> set it to something different
04:42 <DrJoeTron> and I turned off clouds
04:42 <ghableska> how?
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> but I'm pretty sure the history pages are served with directions to crawlers not to index them
04:42 <ghableska> turn off overlay
04:43 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> I could be wrong, you'd have to check the page source to confirm
04:43 <ghableska> ok
04:43 <DrJoeTron> hey mom check this out mr. I have 2 monitors
04:43 <Your_mom_arma> haha
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> if an actual human goes through their and finds spam links with ads they're really interested in and clicks on the ads, I don't really give a shit
04:43 <DrJoeTron> http://codefromthe70s.org/desktopearth_dl.asp
04:43 <Your_mom_arma> same luci
04:44 <DrJoeTron> I have it set up to change time ever 15 minutes
04:45 <Your_mom_arma> i dont want that, but the screen shots look cool
04:46 <DrJoeTron> haha
04:46 <DrJoeTron> hey ghableska 
04:47 <DrJoeTron> those lights in the ocean
04:47 <DrJoeTron> are those oil rigs?
04:47 <DrJoeTron> atlantic 
04:47 <ghableska> hmm?
04:47 <DrJoeTron> off the coast of the us
04:47 <ghableska> east or west?
04:47 <ghableska> oh, hah
04:47 <ghableska> hmm
04:48 <ghableska> islands?
04:49 <GodTodd> hrmmm.....
04:49  * GodTodd dicks around with qt4.
04:49 <DrJoeTron> east coast
04:50 <DrJoeTron> islands int he atlantic?
04:50 <DrJoeTron> look at virginia
04:50 <DrJoeTron> and go right
04:50 <DrJoeTron> theres no island there
04:50 <ghableska> is it bermuda?
04:50 <DrJoeTron> farther past
04:50 <ghableska> oh
04:51 <DrJoeTron> its either a massive cruiseline 
04:51 <DrJoeTron> or an oil rigger
04:51 <ghableska> do you have it set for abundant city lights?
04:51 <Your_mom_arma> its a ufo
04:52 <DrJoeTron> nah just city lights
04:52 <DrJoeTron> even abundant
04:52 <DrJoeTron> and holy crap
04:52 <DrJoeTron> thats bright
04:54 <DrJoeTron> I think il keep it on abundant
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04:54 <DrJoeTron> ooooh moonlit surfaces
04:57  * GodTodd watches joe wank over his desktop.
04:59 <ghableska> haha
05:00 <ghableska> I'm going to bed, cya
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05:04 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, DrJoeTron GodTodd ping
05:17 <DrJoeTron> I got it!
05:17 <DrJoeTron> its gonna be
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> a webcam?
05:17 <DrJoeTron> my girlfriend likes it when I use the Stone Hands
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
05:17 <spidey> S3D?
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> sexturbation3d?
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> in a bit
05:24 <Legit> ey, luke u here?
05:36 <spidey> #quote get 38
05:36 <armabot> spidey: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> man, if vanhayes can work a complete shift throwing 20-25 pound turkeys out the window into a truck, I want him to give me a handjob.
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> #q
05:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #29: "It was like playing a game with a ping of 3000. -- John Carmack, Founder, Armadillo Aerospace" (added by GodTodd at 05:34 AM, October 29, 2006)
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> #q
05:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> #q
05:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #6: "luci what exactly did you use robots for pleasure -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:52 AM, March 27, 2006)
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> I can play scorched3d now
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: spidey (hi there!) luke-jr (hi there!) DrJoeTron (hi there!) 
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> ping!
05:53 <luke-jr> .
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> #q
05:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
05:58 <luke-jr> O.o
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm joining The Stone Age server if anybody wants to play scorched3d
06:01 <luke-jr> GodTodd: Qt4 is always Free
06:01 <luke-jr> Legit: ?
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06:02 <RickyRoss> luke
06:02 <luke-jr> Legit: waiting on a new rental from some Georgia company
06:02 <RickyRoss> are you done?
06:02 <luke-jr> RickyRoss:  waiting on a new rental from some Georgia company
06:02 <RickyRoss> just use a europe server then
06:02 <RickyRoss> the one you host 2020 challenge on
06:03 <luke-jr> ...
06:03 <RickyRoss> i thought i would of had the server up tonight
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> wait, this isn't the scorched3d irc channel?
06:03 <RickyRoss> hm
06:03 <luke-jr> RickyRoss: it could be, the night is short :p
06:04 <RickyRoss> its 9 pm here
06:04 <RickyRoss> what time will it be up
06:04 <luke-jr> dunno, they said within 24-48 hrs
06:04 <luke-jr> and from there, setting it up in maybe 10-15 min at least
06:05 <RickyRoss> what kind of server is it
06:05 <luke-jr> if you need it tonight, I can put it Europe temp or smth?
06:05 <RickyRoss> just a web hosting server
06:05 <luke-jr> no, can't put games on a web host server =p
06:05 <RickyRoss> its a virtual privaet hosting one?
06:05 <luke-jr> it's a machine :p
06:05 <RickyRoss> oh
06:05 <RickyRoss> your renting a machine that hosts the server for you?
06:06 <RickyRoss> do you have software that you installed somehow
06:06 <luke-jr> a machine on a biz internet connection
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06:06 <luke-jr> ...
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> ok, the stone age server sucks
06:09 <luke-jr> lol
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> #q
06:10 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #30: "Fonkay: Are you afraid of sex? -armabot" (added by spidey at 01:02 AM, November 02, 2006)
06:10  * Lucifer_arma hums while waiting for the "scorchwars" mod to download
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> man.  it takes forever to download a mod
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: GodTodd (hi there!) DrJoeTron (hi there!) ping!
06:15 <DrJoeTron> I'm doing a chart for my friend in photoshop
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> astrological chart?
06:23 <spidey> yawn
06:24 <GodTodd> nway
06:24 <spidey> WTF YOU WANT!?
06:24 <spidey> yway
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> scorched
06:24 <spidey> sure
06:25 <spidey> you host or me?
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter, I'm playing the scorchwars server
06:25 <Lucifer_arma> but that mod takes a long time to download
06:25 <spidey> lol
06:26 <spidey> i'm really tired
06:26 <spidey> so it better not take tro long
06:26 <Lucifer_arma> it's not fun, lemme start my server
06:26 <spidey> k
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?
06:27 <spidey> oh no
06:27 <GodTodd> sure
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> server started
06:28 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:28 <spidey> the hell
06:28 <GodTodd> socket closed on me
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:29 <spidey> it didn't load past the screen after it loads the mods
06:29 <Lucifer_arma> not for me either
06:30 <spidey> click the quit button
06:30 <spidey> or w/e
06:30 <spidey> it loaded after i did that
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ?  It seems to be wroking now
06:33 <GodTodd> trying
06:33 <GodTodd> nope
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> weird
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> maybe spidey should start his :)
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> ip, spidey?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> you should really get a dyndns thing we can remember :)
06:35 <spidey> todd.sucks.dong
06:35 <spidey> :D
06:36 <spidey> Wan IP
06:36 <spidey> 	68.119.125.27
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06:38 <GodTodd> grrr
06:38 <GodTodd> same thing
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> what version you using?
06:38 <GodTodd> 40.1d
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> ah, heh
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> says so in the title bar, doesn't it?  Mine's the same version
06:40 <spidey> argh
06:40 <spidey> client crashed
06:40 <spidey> but i'm safe!
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> lemme try disconnecting and godtodd connect
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> er, after this
06:41 <spidey> todd
06:41 <spidey> try now
06:41 <GodTodd> i am
06:41 <spidey> i disabled serverside kicking
06:41 <spidey> kinda
06:41 <spidey> if you see a screen that says "OK" at the bottom
06:41 <spidey> click it
06:41 <GodTodd> yeah
06:41 <GodTodd> i'm in now
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: ?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> you're in now
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07:13 <luke-jr> GodTodd: wtf... Eiffel Tower??
07:15 <GodTodd> what of it?
07:19 <luke-jr> never seen anyone seriously consider it a priority before, :p
07:19 <luke-jr> guess it might be useful w/ that many AI tho
07:19 <GodTodd> would you like to give me a different set of orders...i wouldn't know what to do unless you tell me what's best
07:26 <GodTodd> no better orders?
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07:51 <GodTodd> luke-jr?
08:48 <spidey> hmm
08:48 <spidey> looks like i'm hosting for the night ;/
08:48 <spidey> people still joining the server
08:48 <spidey> lol
08:50 <GodTodd> bah...client locked up on me
08:50 <spidey> lol
08:51 <spidey> i nailed luci with a meteor right after he moved
08:51 <spidey> :D
08:51 <GodTodd> heh
08:51 <spidey> then the next map i got stuck on the side of a mountain which "was" impossible to shoot
08:51 <spidey> over
08:51 <spidey> at people
08:51 <GodTodd> that's when you need a teleport
08:51 <spidey> closest i got to luci without hitting the mountain was about 10 meters away
08:52 <spidey> so i shot 2 meteors at a unexpecting quit mountain side community
08:52 <spidey> then luci left so i did to
08:52 <GodTodd> heh
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'ma go take a good, relaxing shit, shower, and sleep
08:55 <GodTodd> yeah...bedtime for me too
08:57 <spidey> same
09:36 <DrJoeTron> http://snowflakes.lookandfeel.com/ you gotta make a snow flake before you can go to bed
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10:57 <madmax|pt> hello
11:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6500 /private/z-man/clio/test.cpp: Added macro overrides to test effects of features on code size.
11:29 <wrtlprnft> spidey: s3d?
13:00 <DrJoeTron> spidey went to "bed"
13:01 <DrJoeTron> are you asking what s3d stands for?>
13:13 <wrtlprnft> scorched3d
13:13 <wrtlprnft> i was asking if he wanted to play
13:15 <madmax|pt> does it make sense to ask "is there a UML diagram for arma?" ?
13:20 <wrtlprnft> uml?
13:21 <DrJoeTron> oh wow
13:21 <DrJoeTron> I didnt know you played s3d
13:21 <madmax|pt> "Unified Modelling Language"
13:22 <wrtlprnft> yeah, found it on wikipedia
13:22 <wrtlprnft> i don't think there is one
13:22 <wrtlprnft> there's docygen documentation at http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/doxy , but it's incomplete
13:25 <madmax|pt> thanks
13:25 <madmax|pt> I was looking for some kind of global view of the code
13:27 <wrtlprnft> i'd wish to have one, too.
13:27 <wrtlprnft> bbl
13:27 <madmax|pt> :)
13:27 <madmax|pt> didn't know about doxygen
13:29 <madmax|pt> looks like some kind of javadoc
13:32 <DrJoeTron> herp derp
14:36 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6501 /private/z-man/clio/ (functioninfo.hpp ifunctioninfo.cpp ifunctioninfo.hpp): Code size optimization: don't use class specific std::set if all you need is a base class std::set.
15:01 <spidey> luke-jr, luke-jr_work 
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15:11 <luke-jr> ...
15:12 <spidey> pm?
15:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6502 /private/z-man/clio/Makefile:
15:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Added new optimization options.
15:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Added makefile as compilation dependency.
15:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6503 /private/z-man/clio/ (iobjectwrapperaware.cpp iobjectwrapperaware.hpp): Changed fallback MakeObjectWrapperAware() function so it is inlinable.
15:20 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6504 /private/z-man/clio/test.cpp: Added test for member function pointer reinterpret_cast robustness.
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16:25  * Lucifer_arma yawns and sniffs
17:35 <madmax|pt> "Dear Santa, for christmas I want red 'LOL!'s off tron."
17:36 <[dlh]> LOL!
17:37 <madmax|pt> Knew it.
17:38 <z-man-work> Santa says: use FILTER_COLOR_STRINGS 1
17:38 <madmax|pt> oO
17:39 <[dlh]> z-man-work: custom constructors aren't working for me anymore in clio.
17:39 <madmax|pt> Thanks Santa!
17:39 <z-man-work> hmm, since when?
17:39 <[dlh]> I just updated, after the recent optimization commits
17:40 <z-man-work> Strange, they shouldn't change functionality, they just moved destruction of objects around.
17:41 <z-man-work> What is the output of test8()?
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17:42 <madmax|pt> Hm, how about color team messages...
17:42 <z-man-work> Well, nothing is perfect.
17:42 <madmax|pt> :)
17:43 <[dlh]> Oh, I'm compiling the wrappers for AA, let me check what test.cpp does…
17:43 <z-man-work> Ah, I think I know : you need to add CLIO_CLASS_DESTRUCTOR_NONVIRTUAL( tOutput );
17:44 <z-man-work> I forgot to commit that yesterday
17:44 <z-man-work> the "backtrace" of the compiler error should actually have told you that, I tend to leave comments around.
17:46 <z-man-work> I should make those comments more visually outstanding and give them a standard form, I guess.
17:46 <[dlh]> I see, thanks.
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> #g 9 * 16 * 4
17:47 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 9 * 16 * 4 = 576
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> can't live on $576/month :/
17:49 <z-man-work> 9 hours per week at 16$/h or 16 hours at 9$?
18:18 <Lucifer_arma> what the hell is ID theory?
18:18 <Lucifer_arma> oh, that's 16 hours at $9
18:18 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, nvm, I found out what ID theory is
18:21 <z-man-work> gaa, you made me google it.
18:22 <spidey> luci
18:22 <spidey> lets play S3D :D
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> what spidey?
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> no, can't
18:22 <spidey> ;(
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> z-man-work: I found another ID theory that's not jesus loving that actually fits the job description
18:22 <Lucifer_arma> but I don't know anything about it, and it's a requirement
18:22 <z-man-work> for the job?
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
18:25 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's probably Instructional Design.  I've now found two job listings that want it and spell it out instead of giving an ambiguous acronym
18:27 <Lucifer_arma> Levar Burton just told me there's a book written by Dwayne Dibbly
18:31 <z-man-work> That was the most uninteresting fact I learned today.
18:37 <madmax|pt> [dlh]: ever had problems with the WindowServer process eating lots of cpu?
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18:47 <Lucifer_arma> It's interesting because Dwayne Dibbly is a Red Dwarf character :)
18:48 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6505 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Wrapped tCommandLine
18:49 <[dlh]> madmax|pt: nope, not really.
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19:21 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6506 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Wrapped some useful class methods of tConfItemBase, but they unfortunately can not be used yet.
19:27 <spidey> #quote get 37
19:27 <spidey> #quote get 36
19:27 <spidey> ..
19:27 <spidey> #ping
19:27 <spidey> #whoami
19:27 <spidey> !
19:28 <spidey> wrtlprnft, why is the stupid bot still ignoring me?
19:29 <armabot> spidey: Quote #37: "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:40 PM, December 09, 2006)
19:29 <armabot> spidey: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
19:29 <armabot> pong
19:29 <armabot> spidey: spidey
19:29 <spidey> wow
19:29 <spidey> that's uber lag
19:32 <wrtlprnft> spidey: the bot is in the swap space most of the time
19:32 <wrtlprnft> s3d?
19:32 <spidey> yea
19:32 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, GodTodd ?
19:33 <wrtlprnft> darn, spidey's identified again, need to check my logs for the ip
19:33 <wrtlprnft> darn hostname cloaking
19:33 <spidey> it's like
19:33 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.
19:33 <armabot> spidey: [06:39:11] <spidey> 	68.119.125.27
19:34 <wrtlprnft> apparently it's not running yet.
19:34 <spidey> nope
19:34 <spidey> himme a sec
19:34 <spidey> gimme*
19:36 <spidey> ok started
19:36 <[dlh]> I'll play, but I probably suck. :|
19:36 <spidey> lol
19:36 <spidey> so do we
19:36 <wrtlprnft> i can beat the standard bots no problem now
19:36 <wrtlprnft> practiced a bit
19:36 <wrtlprnft> the hard ones are tough, but i played a match and lost very narrowly
19:37 <wrtlprnft> narrowly ← can you say that?
19:38 <[dlh]> disconnected≥
19:38 <[dlh]> …
19:38 <spidey> it kicked you
19:38 <[dlh]> er, why?
19:38 <spidey> i have no clue
19:40 <spidey> ok
19:40 <spidey> try now
19:40 <spidey> i disabled idle kicking
19:40 <wrtlprnft> i can connect
19:40 <spidey> console says he's being kicked
19:41 <[dlh]> hmm, “Loaded mod "apoc" 478 file, space required … (…) bytes; Socket closed; Disconnected.”
19:42 <[dlh]> Guess I won't play, then.
19:50 <spidey> hm
19:50 <wrtlprnft> ?
19:51 <spidey> it
19:51 <spidey> crashed
19:51 <wrtlprnft> o_O
19:51 <wrtlprnft> you know that you can move the mouse pointer somewhere and press a, right?
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21:13 <wrtlprnft> :)
21:13 <spidey> heh
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21:13 <Lucifer_arma> did you just annihilate spidey?
21:13 <Lucifer_arma> I can go a few rounds of scorched if you guys are still playing
21:13 <wrtlprnft> 2:1 for me
21:13 <spidey> he had this reflection shield
21:13 <spidey> so i had to land meteors infront of him
21:13 <wrtlprnft> ok, i'll play another last one
21:13 <Vanhayes> who all is playing scortched right now?
21:14 <spidey> me luci and wrtl?
21:14 <spidey> #quote get 38
21:14 <armabot> spidey: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
21:14 <Vanhayes> what server?
21:14 <wrtlprnft> #last --with 80.
21:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 17214 messages.
21:14 <spidey> lucis?
21:14 <Vanhayes> I am a proud turkey jerker
21:14 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: [06:39:11] <spidey> 68.119.125.27
21:14 <wrtlprnft> #last --with 68.
21:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [21:17:31] <Lucifer_arma> spidey: [06:39:11] <spidey> 68.119.125.27
21:15 <wrtlprnft> wtf
21:15 <wrtlprnft> i only see a console
21:16 <wrtlprnft> and can't chat
21:16 <Vanhayes> reconnect?
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, we were having this problem last night
21:16 <Lucifer_arma> persistence seems to be the key
21:16 <wrtlprnft> better
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: ?
21:19 <spidey> Vanhayes, 
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21:21 <Van-hayes> fuck scortched has some problems
21:22 <Van-hayes> #lastt --nolimit
21:22 <Van-hayes> #last --nolimit
21:22 <armabot> Van-hayes: [21:25:13] <Van-hayes> #lastt --nolimit, [21:24:29] <Van-hayes> fuck scortched has some problems, [21:22:54] <spidey> Vanhayes,, [21:22:27] <Lucifer_arma> Vanhayes: ?, [21:19:52] <wrtlprnft> better, [21:19:49] <Lucifer_arma> persistence seems to be the key, [21:19:43] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, we were having this problem last night, [21:19:25] <Vanhayes> reconnect?, [21:19:05] <wrtlprnft> and can't chat, (50 more messages)
21:22 <Van-hayes> #more
21:22 <armabot> Van-hayes: [21:18:49] <wrtlprnft> i only see a console, [21:18:44] <wrtlprnft> wtf, [21:17:34] <wrtlprnft> #last --with 68., [21:17:31] <Lucifer_arma> spidey: [06:39:11] <spidey> 68.119.125.27, [21:17:30] <Vanhayes> I am a proud turkey jerker, [21:17:27] <spidey> lucis?, [21:17:23] <wrtlprnft> #last --with 80., [21:17:15] <Vanhayes> what server?, [21:17:11] <spidey> #quote get 38, [21:17:05] <spidey> me luci and (49 more messages)
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21:50 <Lucifer_arma> joe, come play!
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> spidey's server
21:50 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: [06:39:11] <spidey> 68.119.125.27
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTr0n: 
21:54 <DrJoeTr0n> yo
21:54 <DrJoeTr0n> In a sec
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22:06 <DrJoeTr0n> ghableska do you still have desktop earth installed?
22:09 <ghableska> yes, why?
22:12 <DrJoeTr0n> its almost sunset in america :D
22:13 <ghableska> heh
22:13 <ghableska> DrJoeTr0n: want to send me a guest pass? :P
22:13  * DrJoeTr0n boots up steam
22:15 <DrJoeTr0n> how do I do such a thing
22:16 <ghableska> games > manage guest passes 
22:16 <DrJoeTr0n> Initially guest passes will be supported only for Day of Defeat: Source. In addition, guest passes will initially be granted only to a small set of users invited to a private beta. After the beta period ends guest passes will be rolled out on a larger scale.
22:17 <DrJoeTr0n> I have none to give
22:17 <ghableska> aww
22:17 <DrJoeTr0n> go out and buy it :)
22:17 <ghableska> sometime :P
22:18 <ghableska> #armaservers
22:18 <armabot> ghableska: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (12 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (7 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (7 players) || The Lobster Cage (6 players) || 2020 team challenge (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (5 players) || Legendary Clan Server ^}LC}< (5 players) || (1 more message)
22:18 <ghableska> #serverdetails 2020
22:18 <armabot> ghableska: 2020 team challenge: Players (6/16): fox, G5, h, TIMMY O TOOL, ~*SP*~ 1nf3rn0, ¦×¥ W4z3r
22:18 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
22:18 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
22:18 <DrJoeTr0n> #serverdetails Lobster
22:18 <armabot> DrJoeTr0n: The Lobster Cage: Players (6/7): Bloodlust, Clown Shoes, Garth, SCPD, Voip, ~fish~
22:18 <DrJoeTr0n> I get all of the weirdos
22:19 <ghableska> haha
22:19 -!- DrJoeTr0n is now known as DrJoeTron
22:21 <ghableska> heh
22:21 <ghableska> #weather 50265
22:21 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 55.4°F (2:54 PM CST on December 13, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa. 
22:51 <spidey> remind me not to listen to hayes anymore
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> wow, that was a nice find
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't say make us filthy stinking rich
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> neither did I :)
22:51 <spidey> lol
22:51 <spidey> yes he did
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> the problem I wanted fixed is that a person who wins snowballs quite a bit
22:51 <spidey> he said turn it all the way up
22:51 <spidey> so i did
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> they get money, the losers are broker than dirt.  The winner gets good stuff, losers get baby missiles
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, apparently an ultra shield can withstand multiple nukes
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> so it's not really kamikaze if you have an ultra shield
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> you need that and parachutes :)
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> and nukes, of course
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> no need to aim, just teleport in close and nuke him
22:52 <Lucifer_arma> I did want to ask, though.  How many apocalypses did you want me to live through?
22:54 <Van-hayes> heh, never shoot them straight up
23:00 <spidey>  LOL
23:01 <spidey> luci > that's how it should be
23:01 <spidey> WORK for what you get
23:01 <spidey> i was getting good stuff the normal way and i wasn't winning
23:01 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: that's an expensive way of killing someone
23:01 <spidey> anyways i'ma goto sleep
23:01 <spidey> i'ma leave the server running
23:01 <spidey> if you want to play later >.>
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> I don't mind working for what you get, I mind the vast difference that quickly happens
23:04 <ghableska> ah, strangeglove :)
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> the first winner buys some shit, and now he has a huge advantage the next round.  If he wins, which is likely, he's virtually undefeatable for the remaining rounds
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, I'll take some pride that while you all were destroying the map with all sorts of apocolyptic weapons, I managed to step lightly through, rack up a bunch of kills, and survive
23:05 <Lucifer_arma> that gives me hope in case there's a real nuclear holocaust :)
23:06 <wrtlprnft> then you won't have super extra hyper mag shields
23:06 <spidey> in a real nuclear holocause they'll aim there nukes, they won't just fire straight up
23:06 <Lucifer_arma> weren't you firing mostly weapons you can't aim?
23:06 <spidey> yea LOL
23:06 <wrtlprnft> you can aim most weapons, sort of
23:06 <spidey> actually
23:07 <spidey> metoer shower drops more in the direction you aim
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> when spidey's firing a weapon you can't aim, the safest place to be is right next to him
23:07 <wrtlprnft> even the strangelove explodes at the highest point of its trajectory
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> normally the safest place to be is wherever spidey's aiming
23:07 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:08 <spidey> ..
23:08 <spidey> same for luci
23:08 <wrtlprnft> same for me
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> :)
23:08 <wrtlprnft> one round i tried to shoot spidey like 10 times
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> I can hit anything within a certain range with only 2 shots, 1 to aim
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> but I can't hit shit outside that range, including what's right next to me
23:08 <wrtlprnft> i had a doghnut-shaped crater around him
23:08 <wrtlprnft> he was sitting right in the middle
23:08 <spidey> tLOL
23:09 <wrtlprnft> though it was only baby missiles, no nuges
23:09 <wrtlprnft> *nukes
23:09 <wrtlprnft> they'd have killed him all
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> I always miss with nukes, for some reason
23:09 <wrtlprnft> but i like investing in shields, not weapons
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> I prefer to buy mirvs because then I just need to hit a little short of him but in a straight line
23:09 <Lucifer_arma> that's easier than hitting someone :)
23:10 <wrtlprnft> spidey: btw, why do you use normal tracers?
23:10 <spidey> easier to aim with
23:10 <wrtlprnft> the cross tracers are waay more effective as they show you how you have to alter your settings
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> when they stay where they're put, you can see the whole path
23:10 <wrtlprnft> every dot to the side is 2.5 degrees turn, the others are 2.5 degrees pitch
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> not that I use tracers, as many times as I have to fire to hit somebody, my screen turns all blue
23:11 <wrtlprnft> and orange is more beautiful
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> I'll use a tracer when I'm worried I might hit something close to me, like a gas station
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> the tracer won't blow it up :)
23:11 <wrtlprnft> or a power plant
23:11 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: use riot bombs
23:12 <wrtlprnft> or those hill-making things
23:12 <wrtlprnft> they're free
23:12 <spidey> um
23:12 <spidey> dude
23:12 <spidey> riotbombs DO damage
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I played something where the tracers were free
23:12 <spidey> ask luci
23:12 <spidey> i killed him with one
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but not much
23:12 <spidey> enough
23:12 <spidey> plus
23:12 <spidey> they dig
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you put it that way, I killed you with a pen laser :)
23:12 <wrtlprnft> riot bombs DO NOT do damage
23:12 <spidey> so a direct hit = death
23:12 <ghableska> haha
23:12 <wrtlprnft> the damage happens if you drop
23:12 <spidey> they DO TO do damage
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> he shot someone close to him, and he was on the edge of the explosion.  Knocked him down to like 10 hit points or something
23:13 <wrtlprnft> if you have a parachute riot bombs are totally harmless
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> then he buried himself.  Only thing I had tht could hit him was a pen laser
23:13 <wrtlprnft> i always buy like 20 batteries for that
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> no, they do a little damage to the tank, but yeah, their purpose is to drop someone
23:13 <wrtlprnft> hello?
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> they're also good for aiming because they make a bigger hole than baby missiles
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> hello
23:14 <wrtlprnft> i've dropped several with speed=0, directly onto me, with a parachute
23:14 <wrtlprnft> they didn't do any damage
23:14 <wrtlprnft> before:100
23:14 <wrtlprnft> after:100
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> did you have a shield?
23:14 <wrtlprnft> no
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> wind?
23:14 <wrtlprnft> 0 speed
23:14 <wrtlprnft> it did explode right on me, anyways
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> because I've been hit while using a parachute and they did damage to me, just not much
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> the little tooltip in the purchase screen says "does little damage to tanks but clears dirt"
23:15 <wrtlprnft> maybe something nearby exploded?
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> no.  maybe it does only kinetic damage
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> speed=0 means no kinetic energy
23:15 <wrtlprnft> could be
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> no kinetic energy = no damage
23:15 <wrtlprnft> gotta try with no wind and straight up
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> power 1000 :)
23:15 <wrtlprnft> 1
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> and parachutes
23:16 <wrtlprnft> yep
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> you know, the first time I teleported to spidey and nuked him, it was a suicidal attack.  I was so shocked that I lived, I had to try it again and again :)
23:16 <wrtlprnft> though they're not totally necessary
23:16 <wrtlprnft> you see the numbers
23:16 <wrtlprnft> those red numbers coming out of your tank
23:17 <wrtlprnft> if it's two numbers it did real damage, if it's just one it was just the fall damage
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> what about for long falls?
23:18 <ghableska> buy a parachute?
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> here, join my server and let's try it and see.  no game, just see if the riot bombs do that
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> someone connect to my server, anyway :)
23:21 <spidey> i would
23:21 <spidey> but i'm thinking of a layout for this webhosting thing i'ma do
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> quick, no game
23:21 <spidey> and it needs to look "professional" so i'll probably end up taking 3 weeks on it :/
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> then 5 minutes won't hurt you right now
23:22 <spidey> lol
23:22 <spidey> sec
23:27 <wrtlprnft> sec
23:28 <luke-jr_work> lol
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23:43 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:43 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:43 <GodTodd> so, luke, what orders have you for my civilization in your game?
23:43 <wrtlprnft> just for the records: riot bombs DON'T do damage
23:43 <GodTodd> i'm still waiting with bated breath.
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> nope, he's right, riot bombs don't do damage
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> so get parachutes and riot bombs can't hurt you
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> even after 10 shots
23:44 <spidey> well
23:44 <spidey> i built a huge ass wall
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> which is useful to know, because with riot bombs and dirt clods, you can bury yourself and just use lasers
23:45 <spidey> then killed myself instead of shooting a ton of dirt
23:45 <spidey> unless
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> use a teleport if you think someone will hit you with a crater
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> *meteor
23:45 <spidey> someone aims a metoer
23:45 <spidey> :p
23:45 <spidey> thell
23:45 <spidey> a metoer shower
23:45 <spidey> or
23:45 <spidey> apoc. bomb would uncover you
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but then you have a turn to teleport
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> also, about lasers, what I just learned, they fire before people can teleport
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> I hit spidey right when he was teleporting out
23:47 <spidey> r u like the founder of fallin angels?
23:47 <spidey> how do you put avaders up in the space?
23:47 <spidey> do u play soldat?
23:47 <spidey> Wink
23:47 <spidey> ...
23:47 <ghableska> "ghableska killed self with a Dollar Store" 
23:47 <ghableska> ...
23:47 <spidey> lol
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23:55 <Lucifer_arma> surprise, a woman that works at a catholic school is named Mary
23:57 <spidey> NO WAY
23:59 <GodTodd> so, luke, what orders have you for my civilization in your game?
23:59 <GodTodd> so, luke, what orders have you for my civilization in your game?
23:59 <GodTodd> i'm still waiting with bated breath.
23:59 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: ...

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00:00 <luke-jr_work> I haven't conquered you yet :p
00:00 <spidey> hmm
00:00 <spidey> luke-jr_work, 
00:00 <spidey> 1tpd
00:00 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:00 <GodTodd> well...you seem to have a problem with my choices so i need you to tell me what's best
00:00 <spidey> why don't you remind me of this stuff?
00:00 <luke-jr_work> spidey: most people have a problem w/ that
00:00 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: nah, I suck
00:00 <luke-jr_work> just ask spidey 
00:00 <spidey> ??
00:00 <Van-hayes> ask anyone
00:00 <luke-jr_work> spidey: people complain when I remind em
00:01 <GodTodd> then why would you comment on my choices?
00:01 <luke-jr_work> spidey: I update the topic in #freeciv-1tpd sometimes tho
00:01 <spidey> i don't care when people remind me
00:01 <spidey> usually 
00:01 <spidey> i forgot about it anyways
00:01 <spidey> ;x
00:01 <luke-jr_work> I just missed 3 turns too
00:01 <luke-jr_work> :o
00:02 <spidey> i missed everyturn since i started
00:02 <GodTodd> or is it the fact that you are so obviously pussy whipped that you have to find other ways and places to try and exert some control?
00:02 <spidey> LOL
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00:09 <spidey> hm
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00:14 <RickyRoss> hi luke
00:14 <luke-jr_work> hi
00:14 <RickyRoss> did the american server work?
00:14 <luke-jr_work> still waiting on it
00:14 <RickyRoss> kk
00:14 <RickyRoss> its all good
00:15 <luke-jr_work> might email em tonight if I haven't heard from them by then
00:15 <RickyRoss> alright
00:15 <RickyRoss> talk to you later if you need anything talk to legit
00:15 <RickyRoss> and give legit all the info for the server once its done
00:15 <RickyRoss> hes gonna admin it for me
00:15 <RickyRoss> seeya
00:15 <luke-jr_work> ok
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00:27 <Lucifer_arma> #eightball does luke-jr_work (hi there!) suck?
00:27 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: You know the answer better than I.
00:27 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, I do.  Yes, yes, I do.
00:27 <ghableska> haha
00:31 <madmax|pt> gnight
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> hey luke-jr_work (hi there!) , a lady from a Catholic school emailed me.  Her name is Mary!
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00:31 <luke-jr_work> who cares?
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> a lady in my calc class is going to that same catholic school.  Her name is Mary, too!
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> What a coincidence!
00:31 <luke-jr_work> I doubt it's even Catholic
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm sure Mary cares
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> it is
00:31 <Lucifer_arma> St. Edward's University
00:32 <luke-jr_work> irrelevant
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> there's also a lutheran school nearby, but I forget its name
00:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, they think the pope's shit don't stink, that makes them catholic
00:33 <luke-jr_work> if they think there's a Pope, that makes them non-Catholic
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> no.  By definition, that makes them catholic.
00:33 <luke-jr_work> nope
00:33 <Lucifer_arma> yep
00:34 <luke-jr_work> you obviously have no clue what a Catholic is
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> it says in the bible, "Catholics love the pope"
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> right
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> no clue
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> historical precedence and events mean nothing in the mind of a true believer such as yourself
00:34 <luke-jr_work> the opposite
00:34 <luke-jr_work> History completely supports Catholicism
00:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, there's been a pope for a very long time, and he's also been the head of the Catholic church
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> *always
00:35 <luke-jr_work> there's a position of Pope
00:35 <luke-jr_work> but that position hasn't been filled for nearly 50 years
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> really?  Who was that john paul guy then?
00:35 <luke-jr_work> Christ has always been the head of the Church
00:35 <luke-jr_work> JP2 was a heretical Conciliarist
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> no, Christ is the object of worship
00:35 <luke-jr_work> no different from Luther or the leaders of other heretical sects
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> by definition he can't be the head of the church.  The church exists to organize the worship and brainwash the children
00:36 <ghableska> O_o
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> big difference.  Luther had a brain
00:36 <luke-jr_work> No, the Church exists for the salvation of mankind
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> and he used it
00:36 <luke-jr_work> ok, so JP2 was worse than Luther
00:36 <luke-jr_work> but they were still both non-Catholic
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he was dumb enough to remain a catholic
00:36 <ghableska> The Church exists for the good of itself :P
00:36 <Lucifer_arma> The Church exists to worship my penis
00:37 <ghableska> good thing I'm not religious
00:37 <luke-jr_work> Christ started the Church as His means to save mankind
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> Christ didn't start the church
00:37 <luke-jr_work> He did
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> he preached and got killed
00:37 <luke-jr_work> that's historical fact
00:37 <spidey> LOL
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> and didn't wipe his ass
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> no, the only historical fact here is that the bible was written by men
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> with a few exceptions, where women wrote parts
00:37 <luke-jr_work> by Catholics
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> all else is purely speculation
00:38 <luke-jr_work> under the influence of God
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> that's speculation
00:38 <luke-jr_work> no, it's fact
00:38 <spidey> luke-jr_work, haven't i asked you for solid proof?
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's speculation
00:38 <spidey> besides what's in a bible
00:38 <luke-jr_work> spidey: of?
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> well, he doesn't have it.
00:38 <spidey> that's been rewritten
00:38 <spidey> a million times
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> all he has is speculation, because he only has the bible
00:38 <spidey> which has been rewritten
00:38 <Lucifer_arma> and at that, he only has the parts of the bible his favorite church didn't censor
00:38 <luke-jr_work> the Bible is only one of many sources of Truth
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's not as reliable a source as my ass
00:39 <spidey> the bible sucks
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00:39 <Lucifer_arma> truth comes out of my ass
00:39 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma sucks
00:39 <spidey> luke-jr_work, you have no proof
00:39 <Lucifer_arma> hey, if I sit and squinch long enough, truth comes out.  It's no different with praying, except you can smell my truth.
00:39 <spidey> do stfu
00:39 <spidey> so*
00:39 <luke-jr_work> spidey: sure I do
00:39 <spidey> !
00:39 <spidey> where
00:40 <spidey> lemme see it
00:40 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: you shit the truth?
00:40 <spidey> pull a bible out
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> hey, don't tell him to stfu when I baited him
00:40 <spidey> i'll shove it up your ass
00:40 <luke-jr_work> spidey: you need to specify what you want proof for
00:40 <spidey> there's a god
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: I shit truth and I piss gold
00:40 <spidey> jesus was really the son of god, and not some fake
00:40 <spidey> do you have hardcore proof?
00:40 <luke-jr_work> spidey: sure
00:40 <Lucifer_arma> hey, jesus' existence is pure speculation anyway
00:40 <spidey> where
00:40 <luke-jr_work> want me to mail you some?
00:40 <spidey> yea, not some article you got offline
00:41  * Lucifer_arma notes luke-jr_work (hi there!) doesn't have any Luciferian turds to mail spidey
00:41 <spidey> lol!
00:41 <luke-jr_work> spidey: the address on your domain real?
00:41 <DrJoeTron> what part of "dont recruit here" do people not understand?
00:41 <spidey> what is it?
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> send him a nail that was carbon-dated to have been made shortly before jesus was born and contains dna samples that show it was used to nail jesus up
00:41 <spidey> yea
00:42 <spidey> we can clone him
00:42 <ghableska> but the earth is only 6000 years old! :P
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> that would be good, independent, verifiable evidence
00:42 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: so?
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm sure carbon has decayed pretty predictably for at least those 6000 years
00:42 <spidey> ghableska, it's flat to
00:42 <spidey> DON'T FALL OFF THHE EDGE!
00:42 <luke-jr_work> spidey: bs
00:42 <ghableska> yeah
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> well, it was until spidey got one of those big bombs.  Now it's convex.
00:43 <ghableska> haha
00:43 <spidey> LOL
00:43 <luke-jr_work> lol
00:44 <luke-jr_work> spidey: the address on your domain real?
00:44 <spidey> which one?
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> you can email him at spidey@luciferstruth.ass
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I'd like a .ass TLD, now that I think of it
00:44 <luke-jr_work> spidey: whois fallin-angels.net
00:45 <luke-jr_work>    Paul Noble
00:45 <luke-jr_work>    2104 W. Antioch Rd.
00:45 <luke-jr_work>    Springville, TN  38256
00:45 <luke-jr_work> that one
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> that's probably his uncle that lives uptown
00:45 <spidey> yea
00:45 <spidey> it's real
00:45 <ghableska> the porno uncle?
00:45 <luke-jr_work> ok, so you want me to mail you proof?
00:45 <Lucifer_arma> I guess.  The one that comes over and gives him pot
00:46 <spidey> if you mail me some bullshit 
00:46 <spidey> you better hope you don't put a return address
00:46 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:46 <ghableska> lol
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, it has to be proof that he can verify through other sources not affiliated with any church
00:46 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: that's ridiculous to expect, seeing that any source w/ the proof wouldn't be foolish enough to remain outside the Church
00:46 <Lucifer_arma> so any statements referenced in any written documentation, for example, he should be able to call the person who said it and get their verification
00:47 <spidey> fuck that
00:47 <spidey> i don't want there word
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr_work: why not?  Maybe they have more than half a brain?
00:47 <spidey> or anyone elses
00:47 <spidey> i want hardcore facts
00:47 <spidey> that ARE proven with science
00:47 <spidey> or some other means
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> well, hardcore facts are going to be known by researchers.  Priests and other such folk aren't trained in research, they're trained in public speaking and jesus loving
00:48 <luke-jr_work> spidey: yeah, but you need to take a scientist's word that it's real science
00:48 <luke-jr_work> duh
00:48 <spidey> yea
00:48 <spidey> and i want there phone number
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> no, that's what "independently verifiable" is all about
00:48 <spidey> so i can call them and ask
00:48 <Lucifer_arma> he doesn't have to take one person's word at all, he can call up 5000 people and ask them
00:48 <Van-hayes> well isnt faith believing in something that you cant prove?
00:48 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: no
00:48 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: that's blind faith
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> 5000 people with real credentials and work to back up their word.  And *then* he can way it against his own feeling and thoughts
00:49 <Van-hayes> what is faith then
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> *weigh
00:49 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: belief in something in general
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> that's what science is all about.  It's the most critical part of the scientific method.
00:49 <Van-hayes> #dict faith
00:49 <spidey> faith is something for people who can't live with the fact life is nothing more than 80-90 years of life
00:49 <armabot> Van-hayes: devils, gazetteer, gcide, easton, wn, bouvier, moby-thes, and gaz-place responded: gcide: Faith \Faith\, interj. By my faith; in truth; verily. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Fecks \Fecks\, n. A corruption of the word {faith}. --Shak. [1913 Webster] feculae; devils: FAITH, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel; bouvier: (31 more messages)
00:49 <ghableska> I believe in Lucifer_arma's ass; is that faith?
00:49 <spidey> then death
00:49 <spidey> that there is no real meaning
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> no, I have a real ass
00:49 <Van-hayes> ha
00:49 <ghableska> :)
00:49 <luke-jr_work> spidey: that's nonsense made up by anarchists
00:49 <Lucifer_arma> ah, but if you believe that truth comes out of it, like I say it does, then *that* would be faith
00:50 <Van-hayes> luke-jr_work: looks like you are wrong 
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> I do really piss gold, though.  early in the morning
00:50 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: looks like your definition has been appended recently
00:50 <spidey> drink more water
00:50 <spidey> then you'll piss crystal
00:50 <spidey> ;x
00:51 <luke-jr_work> "synonym see BELIEF"
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> #dict belief
00:51 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: belief n 1: any cognitive content held as true [ant: {unbelief}] 2: a vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying" [syn: {impression}, {feeling}, {notion}, {opinion}]; moby-thes: (9 more messages)
00:51 <spidey> luke-jr_work, i have a belief that one day, ONE DAY 
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> I will blow out a fart that only catholics can smell?
00:52 <spidey> luke's christian
00:52 <spidey> so no
00:52 <GodTodd> i have a belief that luke is a pussy whipped, jesus freak wuss
00:52 <Lucifer_arma> 2: a vague idea in which some confidence is placed; 
00:52 <Van-hayes> well faith has always meant,to me, a belief in what can not be proven. 
00:52 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: that's the protest-ant's doing
00:52 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
00:52 <GodTodd> and, whaddayaknow, it's the One Truth too ;)
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> to me, faith is something english teachers talk about when you read shakespeare
00:53 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: just like how they redefined 'worship' etc
00:53 <Van-hayes> #dict worship
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00:53 <armabot> Van-hayes: devils, gcide, easton, wn, bouvier, and moby-thes responded: bouvier: WORSHIP, Eng. law. A title or addition given to certain persons. 2 Inst. 666; Bac. Ab. Misnomer, A 2; devils: WORSHIP, n. Homo Creator's testimony to the sound construction and fine finish of Deus Creatus. A popular form of abjection, having an element of pride; easton: Worship homage rendered to God which it is sinful (13 more messages)
00:53 <Lucifer_arma> worship and warship sound the same for a reason
00:53 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd this is why I let you have your way with me :3
00:53 <spidey> HOMO
00:53 <luke-jr_work> #more
00:53 <armabot> luke-jr_work: doesn't make any sense, [23:49:41] <spidey> it looks fine to me, [23:49:30] <spidey> ???, [23:49:02] <Lucifer_arma> can anybody translate that page for me?  I don't think it was written in english..., [23:48:52] <Lucifer_arma> http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=101&engine=2&dockey=xml/0/6/06ae9a4f37d1279fb158a9c99481a317@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=, [23:48:35] <spidey> you still (13 more messages)
00:53 <Van-hayes> luke-jr_work: uh want to give me your defintion of worship, then theirs?
00:53 <luke-jr_work> #more Van-hayes 
00:53 <armabot> luke-jr_work: (idolatry) to render to any created being (Ex. 34:14; Isa. 2:8). Such worship was refused by Peter (Acts 10:25,26) and by an angel (Rev. 22:8,9); bouvier: WORSHIP. The honor and homage rendered to the Creator. 2. In the United States, this is free, every one being at liberty to worship God according to the dictates of his conscience. Vide Christianity; Religious test; gcide: Worship \Wor"ship\, v. i. To (12 more messages)
00:54 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron: cuz i'm coo like dat? ;)
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> 2. In the United States, this is free, every one being at liberty to worship God according to the dictates of his conscience.
00:54 <Van-hayes> sounds good in theory
00:54 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: 2 : to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion
00:54 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd cuz u is kicken rad! ;)
00:54 <luke-jr_work> protest-ants redefine it to: 1 : to honor or reverence as a divine being
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> worship (from Lucifer's dictionary): kissing someone's ass, whether they exist or not, and thereby debasing yourself and absolving yourself of all credibility and independence
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00:55 <spidey> luke-jr_work, the devil is god and god is the devil, the church was brought so you would worship god who is really the devil ;x
00:55 <spidey> so
00:56 <spidey> you're going to hell
00:56 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: for example, it is good to worship Mary, St. Joseph, etc
00:56 <spidey> who's mary?
00:56 <Van-hayes> never met them
00:56 <luke-jr_work> the Mother of God
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> even though the first three commandments condemn you to destruction for that
00:56 <ghableska> haha
00:56 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: they don't
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> Mary's the woman at the catholic school I mentiooned
00:56 <Van-hayes> why would I worship someone Ive never even met?
00:56 <spidey> god doesn't have a mother though
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> they do
00:56 <luke-jr_work> spidey: yes He does
00:56 <spidey> so there's a goddess?
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> catholics are idol-worshippers
00:56 <luke-jr_work> spidey: no, His mother isn't divine
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> that's why Luther left the church.  He realized it was possessed by the devil
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> luke says it's only the last 50 years, but he doesn't really know
00:57 <luke-jr_work> no, he was just pissed
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> he was *right*
00:57 <luke-jr_work> Luther advised his own mother not to leave the Church
00:57 <spidey> he does't like her
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> because he didn't want her to be burnt at the cross
00:57 <luke-jr_work> nonsense
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> he knew his genocidal contemporaries better than you ever will
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> he also knew the power of the church
00:58 <spidey> what, kill anything that stands against them?
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> he took his own life into his own hands because of what he believed, an action we normally associate with Jesus being a good guy
00:58 <Lucifer_arma> but when Luther does it, he's evil?
00:58  * Lucifer_arma was obviously raised a Lutheran :)
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00:59 <Lucifer_arma> I was excommunicated when I joined the Church of Lex Luther
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00:59 <luke-jr_work> "No, remain a Catholic, for I will neither
00:59 <luke-jr_work> deceive nor betray my mother." -Martin Luther
01:00  * Lucifer_arma notes he didn't "leave" the church, he was excommunicated for seeking reform
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> reforms that would have upset the power of the church
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> roughly equivalent to glasnost and that other thing gorbie did
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01:01 <ghableska> hi mom
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> hi
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> hi mom
01:01 <luke-jr_work> he was excommunicated for heresy and denial of proper authority
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen n54
01:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: ~sonofsatan54~ has last been seen on ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} 24 minutes ago.
01:01 <ghableska> lol
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> #seen n54
01:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 26 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 12 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
01:01 <GodTodd> wasn't galileo excommunicated too?
01:01 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
01:01 <ghableska> heh
01:01 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think so, but he was definitely put under house arrest for daring to suggest the earth might not be flat
01:02 <GodTodd> no...he was
01:02 <GodTodd> he was recently issued an apology by the catholic church
01:02 <luke-jr_work> Galileo was punished for his crimes
01:02 <luke-jr_work> not by the Catholic Church
01:02 <luke-jr_work> apology not by...*
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> his crimes?  how are his crimes different than yours?
01:02 <luke-jr_work> what crimes?
01:02 <Lucifer_arma> his crime was questioning the church
01:02 <luke-jr_work> no
01:02 <luke-jr_work> His crime was heresy and denying doctrine
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> the very same crime you commit when you say the catholic church isn't catholic and the pope is possessed by the devil
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> but he was *right*
01:03 <luke-jr_work> No he wans't
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> and he had evidence to show
01:03 <luke-jr_work> still isn't
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> still is
01:03 <Your_mom_arma> luke thinks the pope is possessed?
01:03 <luke-jr_work> and I don't commit a crime by condemning heretics and non-Catholics
01:03 <Van-hayes> uh, so the earth doesnt revolve around the sun?
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> not in luke's world
01:03 <luke-jr_work> fact is, there hasn't been a Pope since 1958
01:03 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: no, the Sun revolves around the Earth
01:03 <Van-hayes> cool
01:04 <Your_mom_arma> luke?
01:04 <Van-hayes> good to know
01:04 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: and neither position can be proved by science, because science is within the same realm
01:04 <GodTodd> oooh...even better 
01:04 <GodTodd> http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,230447,00.html
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, sure it can
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> at this point, it's all about observation
01:04 <Van-hayes> you should get the word out luke-jr_work people need to know this
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> we've actually observed this stuff now
01:04 <GodTodd> even the pope knew they done fucked up
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> galileo only computed it
01:04 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: you can't observe it from within
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> newton showed why
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, good thing we've sent people up there to look
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> and numerous satellites and probes
01:05 <Your_mom_arma> so wait luke thinks the current pope is possessed and all the popes in the last 50 years where fakes?
01:05 <luke-jr_work> you'd need to exit the realm of gravity to observe it
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> well, there was only one, john paul
01:05 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: no, there just hasn't been a pope for nearly 50 years
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> you can't exit the realm of gravity, but it doesn't matter
01:05 <Your_mom_arma> umm
01:05 <GodTodd> define pope, luke
01:05 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
01:05 <luke-jr_work> John XXIII, Paul 6, JP 1 & 2, and Benedict are non-Catholic antipopes
01:05 <Your_mom_arma> what?
01:05 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: Vicar of Christ, visible head of the Catholic Churhc
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> jeez, galileo never questioned the church, just something they taught
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> if he got house arrest, what should luke get?
01:06 <GodTodd> ok...no one more visible than john paul was ;)
01:06 <luke-jr_work> a non-Catholic, not being a member of the Church, cannot hold a position within it
01:06 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: but JP2 wasn't a Catholic
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> who is the pope?
01:06  * Lucifer_arma suspects luke would only approve of himself being the pope
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> I cn be the pope :)
01:06 <luke-jr_work> Pope Gregory XVII was the last Pope
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> can I, can I?
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> so no pope?
01:07 <Your_mom_arma> how can you tell they arn't catholic? is it the way they walk?
01:07 <GodTodd> he was voted leader...so the college of cardinals thought he was....are you more catholic than they that follow what has been passed down for 2000 years?
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> my, these are dark times we live in
01:07 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: you're not Catholic
01:07 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: they deny Catholic doctrine
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> I can become a catholic
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> all I hve to do is take jesus up the ass, right?
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> I can do that.  I take DrJoeTron (hi there!) all the time!
01:07 <Your_mom_arma> luke provide examples
01:07 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: You need to believe and live by all the doctrines of the Church
01:07 <GodTodd> heh....afaik...if they have the silly hat they're pope
01:07 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: JP2 said Jews can go to Heaven
01:07 <Lucifer_arma> really?  even the doctrine to judge not lest ye be judged yourself?
01:07 <luke-jr_work> he also said Hell was empty, implicitly at least
01:08 <GodTodd> it is...til you get there
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe the jews can still go to heaven.
01:08 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: I'm not doing the judging, just determining God's judgment
01:08 <Your_mom_arma> so only jews go to hell in your opinion?
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> you can't determine God's judgement
01:08 <luke-jr_work> There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church
01:08 <luke-jr_work> that is a dogma
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> to do so would require you to know the will of god, which by definition is heretical
01:08 <Van-hayes> what if its the other way around, wont you look like an idiot
01:08 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: nope
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> yep
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> show me one passage in the bible that says something to the effect of "man can know what god's thinking"
01:09 <luke-jr_work> Man can know what God reveals about Himself
01:09 <luke-jr_work> that's the point of revealing it
01:09 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, you probably know of one.  So count all the occurences of those phrases and compare them to the occurences of "man can't know what god's thinking"
01:09 <luke-jr_work> thinking != actions
01:10 <Your_mom_arma> luke show me something saying non catholics cant go to heaven
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> last time I read the bible, I got the distinct impression that god would make his own mind up on judgement day, and that the only way man can be sure to be judged right is to kiss his big white hairy ass and beg for forgiveness
01:10 <|Sticky|> however god can still judge people against a set of rules she may or may not chose to reveal
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, god has changed the rules before
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> apparently it wasn't because he made any mistakes, because he's perfect
01:11 <Your_mom_arma> im still waiting for luke to explain how the current pope is possessed
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, the current pope *is* trying to undo all the reforms the catholic church has had since 1958
01:12 <GodTodd> his silence usually means he can't ;)
01:12 <ghableska> possessed? 
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> but I'd imagine luke would like that
01:12 <Your_mom_arma> thats what i said ghab
01:12 <|Sticky|> well judgement day was from revelations which was widly critisised for even being included in the bible and many versions dont include genesis since there is even doubt about its origins
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> did anybody tell him JP2 died?  does he even know that?
01:12 <ghableska> by the devil?
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but satan
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> me, no less
01:13 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: but that might mean changing the stance on reincarnation too ;)
01:13 <Your_mom_arma> thats the conclusion i jumped to ghab
01:13 <ghableska> congrats Lucifer_arma :)
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> why I'd waste my time with him is quite beyond my capacity to figure out
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, the catholic church can self-destruct whether or not I get involved
01:13 <|Sticky|> read Dawkins...God Delusion...absolutly fantastic book
01:13 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma I'm sorry but drew came up with a better name
01:13 <DrJoeTron> title*
01:14 <Your_mom_arma> haha fair enough
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> Master of the Pope's Anus?
01:14 <GodTodd> shortened to "Luke"
01:14 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: 
01:14 <luke-jr_work>       There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved. (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.) 
01:14 <luke-jr_work>        We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff. (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> would the SA people ban you for that?
01:14 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: he isn't possessed, he's just non-Catholic
01:14 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2224681&pagenumber=4#post319703605
01:14 <luke-jr_work> actually, maybe he is possessed, I don't know
01:14 <GodTodd> We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.
01:14 <GodTodd> We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.
01:14 <GodTodd> that means "trust your pope"
01:14 <DrJoeTron> "My girlfriend likes it when I use Stone Hands."
01:15 <GodTodd> dumbass
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> that only applies to human creatures
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> does it apply to our clones?
01:15 <DrJoeTron> clones don't have souls
01:15 <Van-hayes> why not?
01:15 <Lucifer_arma> wait, didn't they still use leeches in those days?
01:15 <DrJoeTron> according to VB they dont
01:15 <Your_mom_arma> so luke do you personally believe that people with learning disabilities or people whom the catholic church have never seen go to hell?
01:15 <GodTodd> questioning the leader in Rome is not being "subject to the Roman Pontiff" which means luke gets no salvation
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> that's how I read it, GodTodd (hi there!) 
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> so I guess he's fucked
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> can't live with them, can't go to heaven without him
01:16 <GodTodd> that means i get to torment him forever?
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> shit
01:16 <GodTodd> w00t :)
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> that means we'll see him in hell
01:16 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: The former case, people without the use of reason cannot deny Catholicism
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> we gotta get him to love the pope somehow
01:16 <|Sticky|> yes the Assumption of Mary is a great example of the popes wonderful thinking
01:16 <GodTodd> no...that means *he'll* see *us* ;)
01:16 <luke-jr_work> so as long as they are validly Baptised, they are Catholic
01:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've long maintained that only christians suffer in hell
01:17 <GodTodd> i was baptised
01:17 <Van-hayes> I wasnt
01:17 <Your_mom_arma> tluke the latter?
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> I hear ass-rape against christians is legal down there
01:17 <GodTodd> haha
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> I was too.  :(  Circumcised even
01:17 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: the latter is a more complicated topic
01:17 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yah...me too
01:17 <|Sticky|> so was I but I grew up and realised its all superstition
01:17 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: ouch
01:17 <Van-hayes> I feel kind of bad too cuase my older sister was but I wasnt
01:17 <GodTodd> so i'm christian and jewish
01:17 <Your_mom_arma> native americans go strait to limbo luke?
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> your sister was circumcised?
01:17 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: non-Catholic ones
01:17  * ghableska is glad he's an atheist
01:17 <Van-hayes> baptised
01:17 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: that happens in some countries
01:17  * GodTodd is not an atheist.
01:18  * Van-hayes isnt either
01:18  * GodTodd follows one of the many true religions.
01:18  * Lucifer_arma worships the turds that comes out of his ass
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> I'm a Turdist
01:18 <Your_mom_arma> gross
01:18 <|Sticky|> no i belive jesus said the only way to heaven is through me so jews, native americans and muslims all go to hell
01:18 <ghableska> although Turdism sounds pretty appealing
01:18 <Van-hayes> wasnt jesus muslim?
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> it is, you should try it some time
01:18 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: And He also started His Church as the only means for it
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> no, jesus was a jew
01:18 <GodTodd> jesus was jewish
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> like Luther, he tried to reform the church
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't start a church, he just tried to reform the one that was there
01:18 <Van-hayes> I thought he was born in the middle east
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> all else since then was done by humans
01:19 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: do Turdists fear the coming of the great white toilet paper?
01:19 <Van-hayes> heh
01:19 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: Israel is in the middle east in case you didn't notice
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> not at all!
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> see, that's the greatest myth!
01:19 <DrJoeTron> Whats the deal with Cat heaven?
01:19 <ghableska> I knew it!
01:19 <Van-hayes> isreal was created less than 70 years ago if you didnt know
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> there's no dogs there?
01:19 <DrJoeTron> Will my kitty go there?
01:19 <luke-jr_work> animals don't have spiritual souls, nor do dogs
01:19 <luke-jr_work> when they die, they rot
01:19 <Your_mom_arma> luke says animals dont have souls
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> no, they get eaten
01:19 <Van-hayes> so what will you eat in heaven?
01:19 <DrJoeTron> my cat does D:
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> if not by you or me, by something else
01:19 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: not spiritual souls, no
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: soul != brain
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> cats have brains, not souls
01:20 <Lucifer_arma> that's why they're such good company :)
01:20 <DrJoeTron> my cat has a sould D:
01:20 <luke-jr_work> technically, brains can be considered soul
01:20 <DrJoeTron> don't say that
01:20 <Your_mom_arma> luke do you believe in dinosaurs?
01:20 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: sure
01:20 <DrJoeTron> dinosaurs with hats?
01:20 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: they're nearly extinct, but they're still real
01:20 <Your_mom_arma> nearly?
01:20 <luke-jr_work> well, supposedly there's still a few alive
01:20 <DrJoeTron> comodo dragons don't count
01:21 <GodTodd> yeah....from 6000 years ago
01:21 <ghableska> o.0
01:21 <luke-jr_work> Loch Ness, etc
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> aren't dinosaurs big enough to be seen by satellite?
01:21 <luke-jr_work> maybe they've died off, I dunno
01:21 <Your_mom_arma> aw come on
01:21 <ghableska> luke-jr_work: if the earth is 6000 years old, when did humans come in?
01:21 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: -4000 BC
01:21 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: ask your bible ;)
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> somewhere near the beginning
01:21 <luke-jr_work> err
01:21 <luke-jr_work> 4000 BC*
01:21 <Your_mom_arma> you believe in a giant lizerd in a lake?
01:21 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
01:21 <DrJoeTron> OH GOD
01:21 <DrJoeTron> wait no
01:21 <DrJoeTron> 1995
01:22 <luke-jr_work> ...
01:22 <DrJoeTron> think about it
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> does the sun revolve around the giant lizard in the lake?
01:22 <DrJoeTron> jurassic park?
01:22 <|Sticky|> do you belive in evolution??
01:22 <luke-jr_work> evolution is heresy disproven by science
01:22 <GodTodd> i do...luke is just a step behind ;)
01:22 <|Sticky|> holy crap i hope you arnt serious
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, I intend to keep evolving while luke keeps believing
01:22 <ghableska> >_>
01:22 <Your_mom_arma> poor DrJoeTron ... jurassic park was a documentary its events happened in real time
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> |Sticky|: he is :)
01:22 <Lucifer_arma> that's why we bait him so much :)
01:22 <luke-jr_work> evolutionism is just another false religion now
01:23 <|Sticky|> DISPROVEN???
01:23 <luke-jr_work> albeit the most popular one
01:23 <|Sticky|> WHEN
01:23 <DrJoeTron> :(
01:23 <DrJoeTron> NEEEDRY!!!!!!!!!
01:23 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: many times
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> didn't you hear about intelligent design?
01:23 <|Sticky|> I have read creationist material its all based upon terrible understanding of physics biology and misquoting of real scientists
01:23 <Lucifer_arma> it's the first scientific theory ever to be supported with the might of the american military
01:23 <DrJoeTron> what about the flying spaghetti monster?
01:23 <DrJoeTron> and besides guys
01:24 <DrJoeTron> HAIL XENU
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> ack
01:24 <ghableska> hahahahah
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> not that xenu crap!
01:24 <DrJoeTron> :)
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> dude, I still have engrams!
01:24 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: evolutionism is still disproven, regardless of whether creation is
01:24 <|Sticky|> evolution!=a religion.  evolution has proof.  religon has none
01:24 <Your_mom_arma> luke is the moon real?
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> er
01:24 <Lucifer_arma> evidence
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> there's no such thing as "proof" in science
01:25 <Your_mom_arma> is mars real?
01:25 <luke-jr_work> evolutionism is a religion based on blind faith and disproven scientific theories
01:25 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma yes. and it is infact made of cheese
01:25 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: yes
01:25 <|Sticky|> no...evolution is an incomplete theory not disproven
01:25 <Your_mom_arma> but other solar systems arnt real?
01:25 <luke-jr_work> heck, the moon was used in at least one disproving of evolutionism
01:25 <ghableska> ...
01:25 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: I don't know if they are or not
01:25 <|Sticky|> addition such as punctuated equalibium have been added but the core of the theory still holds
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> why?  they found human fossils on the moon?
01:25 <luke-jr_work> the nearest is over 6000 lightyears away, isn't it?
01:25 <DrJoeTron> what about that tiny human they found a few years back?
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> the pygmies?
01:26 <DrJoeTron> I think so
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> luke are they real?
01:26 <|Sticky|> luke are you american??
01:26 <luke-jr_work> what?
01:26 <Your_mom_arma> pygmies
01:26 <luke-jr_work> never heard of them
01:27 <Your_mom_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy
01:27 <ghableska> |Sticky|: duh :P
01:27 <DrJoeTron> thats what it was! thanks Your_mom_arma 
01:27 <Lucifer_arma> he's american all right
01:27 <DrJoeTron> AMERIKKKA
01:27 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: shrug
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> but in america, we tolerate all god-fearing christians
01:28 <DrJoeTron> or the real american way is the A is silent
01:28 <|Sticky|> ive only ever heard americans talk about evolution with such ignorance
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> but that's it
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> do they have souls if they are real?
01:28 <DrJoeTron> 'Merica
01:28 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: if they're human
01:28 <DrJoeTron> MY CAT HAS A SOUL d:
01:28 <DrJoeTron> D;
01:28 <Your_mom_arma> well then dont want to catagorize them as homosapiens
01:28 <DrJoeTron> wait it doesnt matter
01:28 <luke-jr_work> you're all in a sad state of brainwashing
01:28 <DrJoeTron> because my cat is going to live forever
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> luckily for luke, he owes the freedom to hold his views without being cruelly tortured and murdered to the protestants that founded this country
01:29  * Lucifer_arma brainwashed himself
01:29 <ghableska> luke-jr_work: define "brainwashing"
01:29 <Your_mom_arma> luke does that make them not humans?
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> isn't it what happens when you get shampoo in your ear?
01:29 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: taught lies with such insistence you believe them
01:29 <|Sticky|> luke...brainwashed...i take it you were brought up a catholic, baptised and attended ceromonies since you were young right???
01:29 <Lucifer_arma> nah, I wasn't taught the lies I know.  I had to come up with them on my own.
01:29 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: man can err in categorizing species
01:29 <ghableska> that's religion
01:29 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: no
01:30 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: I converted a year or 2 ago
01:30 <|Sticky|> realy so you made a choice late in life?
01:30 <|Sticky|> what age?
01:30 <DrJoeTron> 47
01:30 <luke-jr_work> 19 I think
01:30 <DrJoeTron> :)
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> he's still a kid :)
01:30 <ghableska> heh
01:30 <Van-hayes> luke-jr: are you one of those born again christians?
01:30 <DrJoeTron> oh god thats right
01:30 <DrJoeTron> ewwwww
01:30 <DrJoeTron> EWWWWW
01:30 <|Sticky|> what prompted the converion?
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> he's worse, he's a born again catholic
01:30 <luke-jr_work> Van-hayes: There's only one kind of Christian
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> I never knew there was such a thing until I met him
01:30 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: facts, evidence, etc
01:30 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:30 <DrJoeTron> I love when irc is bumping with life
01:30 <|Sticky|> lol
01:31 <DrJoeTron> and its always the same conversations
01:31 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: me too,
01:31 <Your_mom_arma> joe it only bumps to life when we dicuss religion and politics
01:31 <DrJoeTron> yea!
01:31 <DrJoeTron> or to argue with luke-jr 
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, when we talk about arma this place dies
01:31 <DrJoeTron> which goes hand in hand
01:31 <Your_mom_arma> yanks suck mets suck nicks suck
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, the easiest way to kill this place is to mention arma
01:31 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: too many arma people missing here
01:31 <DrJoeTron> krypton sucks
01:31 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:31 <Lucifer_arma> ummmmm
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> the room is full of arma people
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> I think GodTodd (hi there!) 's the only one here who's not really arma
01:32 <luke-jr_work> nemo, z-man, ph are never really here
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> who do you think [dlh] is?
01:32 <luke-jr_work> he's never really here
01:32 <DrJoeTron> dinosaurs like hats?
01:32 <Lucifer_arma> and I was chatting with zman earlier
01:32 <luke-jr_work> maybe once or twice a week
01:32 <Your_mom_arma> im a developer for the game and so is luci we count for something
01:32 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: never said you didn't
01:33 <|Sticky|> luke seriously you have been fed some realy bad lies about evolution
01:33 <DrJoeTron> Im a cuddly little rascal
01:33 <DrJoeTron> I count
01:33 <luke-jr_work> I said there were too many missing, not a lack of people present
01:33 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: nope
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> I don't count, unless I have an antiderivative
01:33 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: take the moon. It's too close for life to have evolved on Earth
01:33 <Lucifer_arma> I am the Integrator!  I will integrate you!
01:34  * luke-jr_work probably did a crappy job summarizing that proof, but oh well
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, the moon is generally considered an important part of evolution
01:34 <|Sticky|> why is it too close??
01:34 <DrJoeTron> Im here to convince you to put resource sucking programs on your pc
01:34 <ghableska> wtf
01:34  * DrJoeTron hugs desktop earth
01:34 <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:34 <luke-jr_work> |Sticky|: that would be details I'd need to look up :)
01:34 <luke-jr_work> when I get home
01:34 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: somewhere else, please
01:34 <Your_mom_arma> luci you stil believe in high tide
01:34 <luke-jr_work> and mail spidey's proof
01:34 <Lucifer_arma> well, because it makes the oceans kind of swish around
01:34 <|Sticky|> moths evolved to use the moon as a guideance system
01:34 <Your_mom_arma> thats never been proven
01:35 <DrJoeTron> don't be a prude ghableska 
01:35 <Your_mom_arma> right luke?
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, I've only seen the ocean once, and I'm not even sure it wasn't just a big lake
01:35 <ghableska> it's for luke-jr :P
01:35 <DrJoeTron> look guys
01:35 <DrJoeTron> God is love
01:35 <DrJoeTron> love is blind
01:35 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: pretty sure it has, but I could be wrong there
01:35 <DrJoeTron> stevie wonder is blind
01:35 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: God is also Holy
01:35 <DrJoeTron> stevie wonder is god
01:35 <DrJoeTron> God exsists
01:35 <Lucifer_arma> so I don't know that I believe in the ocean
01:35 <Your_mom_arma> luke do you believe in the ocean?
01:35 <luke-jr_work> sure
01:36 <Van-hayes> man, I see the ocean all the time, and there is such thing as high tide, it comes right after low tide
01:36  * ghableska feels like bringing up the link with the arguments for god's existence again
01:36 <luke-jr_work> used to swim in it :(
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> that would require the moon, though
01:36 <DrJoeTron> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_spaghetti_monster
01:36 <Your_mom_arma> well why dont you believe in evolution?
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> and wouldn't that tend to mix up the chemicals and shit in the ocean?
01:36 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom_arma: it's fiction
01:36  * luke-jr_work wants to go home
01:36 <Lucifer_arma> you know, increase the possibility that certain substances would mix to create a self-replicating molecule?
01:37 <Van-hayes> if you leave, we win the arguement
01:37 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> hmmmm.......
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> you need to reverse that
01:37 <Lucifer_arma> unless you want him to stay
01:37 <DrJoeTron> haha Vanhayes 
01:37 <luke-jr_work> dinner's ready in 15 min
01:37 <luke-jr_work> drive home is 20 min
01:37 <luke-jr_work> I'm gone
01:37 <luke-jr_work> ttyl
01:37  * ghableska celebrates
01:37 <luke-jr_work> and lack of a defense only is a win in court, not in reality
01:37 <Vanhayes> so your immortal soul is worth a wednesday night dinner?
01:38 <luke-jr_work> bye
01:38 <DrJoeTron> Logic 4 luke-jr -3
01:38  * Lucifer_arma doesn't celebrate, ttyl means "talk to you later"
01:38 <ghableska> hmmm
01:38 <ghableska> good point
01:38 <Your_mom_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
01:38  * GodTodd goes to take a trig final which he isn't worried about since in the grand scheme of things he's going to hell anyway ;)
01:38 <DrJoeTron> my cat is going to heaven right guys?
01:38 <DrJoeTron> guys?
01:38 <DrJoeTron> :(
01:38 <ghableska> right
01:38 <GodTodd> joe: is it as much of a whore as you?
01:38 <GodTodd> if so, no
01:38 <GodTodd> :P
01:39 <DrJoeTron> :/
01:39 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr check the link i just posted
01:39 <GodTodd> god's a dog person :D
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> I eat god
01:39 <GodTodd> anyways....send all my love to luke if/when he comes back ;)
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> I'm also dysxicl
01:39 <Lucifer_arma> +e
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: do you want your cat to go to heaven?
01:40 <DrJoeTron> I want my cat to live forever :(
01:40 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, then you probably don't want him to go to heaven
01:40 <DrJoeTron> NO :(
01:41 <DrJoeTron> because he won't ever die :(
01:41 <DrJoeTron> right guys?
01:41 <Your_mom_arma> i dont know how to feel about that pirate article in joes link
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> heaven's just a big concentration camp, setup to destroy the faithful and punish them for their sins
01:41 <DrJoeTron> brb
01:41 <Your_mom_arma> apperently fewer pirates cause global warming
01:41 <Lucifer_arma> what pirate article?
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, the pastafarians
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> I forgot about the pirate doctrine
01:42 <Your_mom_arma> "Henderson put forth the argument that "global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of pirates since the 1800s.""
01:42 <Lucifer_arma> that reminds me, I'd intended to work on my pirate game, but luke took the bait this time and I had to stick around and try to create more chaos
01:43 <Your_mom_arma> so its just a mod to freeciv?
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> my pirate game?
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> no, I intend to write it from the ground up
01:44 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
01:44 <Your_mom_arma> oh
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> right now it's just a server that almost accepts a login
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> and a client that almost logs in
01:44 <Lucifer_arma> I decided to write the network layer first :)
01:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, now I have to work on dinner.  Unlike luke, I don't have an obedient and submissive wife to cook my meals for me.  Which is good, because my wife can't cook for shit.
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01:58 <Lucifer_arma> According to the author, he plans to use the proceeds from the sale of the book to build a pirate ship, with which he may travel the world in order to convert heathens to the Pastafarian religion
01:59 <DrJoeTron> ko
02:00 <Your_mom_arma> haha
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02:04 <DrJoeTron> hooray for thread shitting! http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=121151&sid=182549e538214394c1d97425c9f5a59d#121151
02:07 <Your_mom_arma> can you not say bitching on the forums or did he just mistype it
02:08 <Your_mom_arma> im suprised alex is getting so pissed off about it seeing as how i've seen him be generaly disrespectful to both new players and veteran players
02:08 <DrJoeTron> should we post crap in it?
02:08 <DrJoeTron> seeing as its a crap thread and all
02:09 <Your_mom_arma> i've stopped visiting the arma forums, most of the posts are just rediculus
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02:09 <DrJoeTron> its time to change that, rather than ignore it
02:10 <DrJoeTron> http://67.37.179.152/imkool.gif this will suit just fine
02:10 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:10 <Your_mom_arma> i dont see how you would change it
02:12 <DrJoeTron> well I cant
02:12 <DrJoeTron> thats I say we get some actual mods
02:13 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=121171#121171 done and done :)
02:14 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:14 <ghableska> :P
02:14 <Your_mom_arma> luci did the anti spammer software on the wiki stop working?
02:14 <Lucifer_arma> no, spam overall is just increasing
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> seems like every post is spam or tournament stuff
02:15 <Lucifer_arma> my email provider even had to revamp their spam protection
02:15 <DrJoeTron> yeah
02:15 <DrJoeTron> come on
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> sure could use internet 2.0 about now
02:15 <DrJoeTron> maybe tank will let us be mods :)
02:15 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:15 <DrJoeTron> I mean look what its turning into
02:16 <DrJoeTron> its alwyas "I THINK DIS GUY IS GUY"
02:16 <DrJoeTron> GAy*
02:16 <Your_mom_arma> joe i think we're last resort material
02:16 <DrJoeTron> NO I NOT U DON EVEN NO HOW GHEY IS
02:16 <Your_mom_arma> so luci is it all 2d?
02:16 <DrJoeTron> I mean technically I'm a mog
02:16 <DrJoeTron> mod*
02:16 <DrJoeTron> but only for the lobster cage thread
02:16 <Lucifer_arma> is what all 2d?
02:17 <Your_mom_arma> the game your working on
02:17 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma get that rom working :)
02:17 <Your_mom_arma> we need to find an arma player who's a sprite designer/artist
02:17  * DrJoeTron *
02:18 <Your_mom_arma> did you try civ yet?
02:18 <DrJoeTron> Ive seen it played
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it'll probably be 2d.  The fundamental concepts are 2 dimensional, so 3d would just be for realism
02:18 <DrJoeTron> hmmm that reminds me
02:18 <Lucifer_arma> and 3d would probably quadruple development time :)
02:19 <Your_mom_arma> joe think you could put some polish(or wood filler) on the civ units we put up?
02:19 <DrJoeTron> http://www.flyinglab.com/pirates/beta.php 
02:20 <DrJoeTron> Ill give it my best
02:20 <DrJoeTron> I used to work with sprites alot
02:20 <DrJoeTron> and not just recoloring crap
02:21 <DrJoeTron> http://www.flyinglab.com/pirates/index.php ***
02:21 <Your_mom_arma> game sounds interesting
02:21 <DrJoeTron> I'm going to try and get an invite from a goon
02:22 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: Logic is on my side, dummy
02:23 <Lucifer_arma> only after you redefine it
02:24 <Your_mom_arma> i'ld like to be able to control the ship, give directions to gunners(ai/players), be a gunner, let another player sail the ship while you micromanage ai(you 9 bots man the cannons that bot i hate you go clean the ship so we dont get gangreen)
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking about introducing some RPG aspects
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> where your pirate crew has a set of stats, including their firing ability, loyalty, and so forth
02:25 <Lucifer_arma> so you wouldn't get to fire the cannons in that case, but you would get to order targets and even assign targets to each cannon
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> but the actual firing is done by the crewman, who has a rating that determines how good he is at it
02:26 <DrJoeTron> god damn
02:26 <Lucifer_arma> then I'd do a critical hit system, like we used to do back when we played devil-worshipping AD&D, where if you roll a natural 20, you get a nasty hit, ot just a hit
02:26 <DrJoeTron> #m guru3 the boards are going down the toilet :/
02:26 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The operation succeeded.
02:27 <Your_mom_arma> i'ld like to see players be able to be able to team up and have one ship
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh you just wait.  I ran into one of those DWH guys earlier and told him to go post on the forums
02:27 <Your_mom_arma> then as you progress split up so you have admirals and captains
02:27 <Lucifer_arma> I like players teaming up, not sure if I like having one ship between more than one player
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> I was thinking players would have to declare their alliances at the beginning of combat, or when they enter combat if they interupt an already-in-progress battle
02:28 <Your_mom_arma> well say you me and joe have x money and need a boat to sail to x city, put our money together have luci sail while me and joe run around on the boat
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> so if you and I go in together against the spanish fleet, I can take a treasure ship and then turn on you and kill you and take all the gold :)
02:28 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, maybe you should check out how pirates worked historically :)
02:29 <Lucifer_arma> they didn't buy ships, really
02:29 <Lucifer_arma> now, I'd like something where your crew can be on the ship, now that you metnion it
02:29 <Your_mom_arma> im not saying it would be historically accurate more like a parrallel world
02:29 <Lucifer_arma> a scenario I came up with that I'd like to support involves a pirate attack where we all ram our ships against the other ships, then board
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> what happens when you have less sailable ships than players?
02:30 <DrJoeTron> there, now http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=121171#121171 the magic begins
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> I guess to support that scenario, what you're wanting comes with it
02:30 <Your_mom_arma> most pirates split the gold up amongst the crew taking only a slightly larger portion then what any lesser individual takes
02:31 <Your_mom_arma> even back in the day
02:31 <DrJoeTron> let me see if I have civ installed
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02:31 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma, Your_mom_arma I expect you all to draw some cool pictures
02:31 <Your_mom_arma> haha
02:31 <DrJoeTron> :/ its the rules
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> later
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> :)
02:33 <Lucifer_arma> I really need to get dinner going, I still haven't done that
02:34 <DrJoeTron> you know what
02:34 <DrJoeTron> I think for all shit threads
02:34 <DrJoeTron> I'm just going to write my response in mspaint
02:38 <Your_mom_arma> in the parrallel world i imagine pirates are more like bushido
02:41 <DrJoeTron> haha
02:41 <DrJoeTron> oh fuck
02:41 <DrJoeTron> 200gb hard drive for 54 bucks
02:41 <DrJoeTron> 2mb cache but still
02:41 <Your_mom_arma> and i'ld imagine the game would be like a mix of the newer battlefield games, secret of mana, and some generic rpg/rts based game mechanics
02:41 <DrJoeTron> if its for music stoarge its perfect
02:41 <Your_mom_arma> thats almost 25 cents a gig
02:41 <DrJoeTron> secret of mana
02:42 <DrJoeTron> good god
02:42 <DrJoeTron> http://3btech.net/whlamadate202.html
02:42 <DrJoeTron> they're hard drives built out of western digital parts
02:42 <DrJoeTron> and seagate and what not
02:42 <DrJoeTron> Gomes bought a few of them
02:43 <DrJoeTron> they've been running for a year now
02:43 <DrJoeTron> no problems
02:43 <Your_mom_arma> was about to say, looks like a website with questionable service
02:44 <DrJoeTron> I'm getting my brother one for christmas
02:44 <DrJoeTron> btw
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> i think my idea from a pirate game differs too much from luci's
02:44 <DrJoeTron> any one want a deep dish pizza from chicago?
02:44 <Your_mom_arma> er of a
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> gross
02:45 <DrJoeTron> this place sells frozen precooked ones that you can mail
02:45 <Your_mom_arma> new york style pizza ftw
02:45 <DrJoeTron> and its pretty amazing pizza
02:45 <DrJoeTron> a pox on Your_mom_arma !
02:46 <DrJoeTron> yeah, I bet you like eating cardboard ;d
02:46 <DrJoeTron> I bet you've never had chicago deep dish
02:46 <Your_mom_arma> im not allowed to have an oppinion on food that differs from joes
02:47 <DrJoeTron> thats right
02:47  * DrJoeTron crosses arms
02:47 <DrJoeTron> :/
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> the fact that you compare new york style to pizza proves you've never had a good one
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> er
02:47 <Your_mom_arma> wait that came out wrong
02:47 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
02:47 <DrJoeTron> its ok
02:48 <DrJoeTron> have you had it?
02:48 <DrJoeTron> chicago deep dish
02:48 <Your_mom_arma> i wouldnt be suprised if the local deep dish is better and vise versa
02:48 <DrJoeTron> what if I offered you one
02:48 <DrJoeTron> from chicago
02:48 <DrJoeTron> would you take it
02:49 <DrJoeTron> its really a different breed of pizza
02:49 <DrJoeTron> one that involves you losing years off of your life
02:49 <Your_mom_arma> not likely, i would try it if i ever went there though
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> don't take it, he'd have to ship it
02:49 <DrJoeTron> but you lose the suck years
02:49 <Lucifer_arma> which means it'll be moldy and cold by the time you get it
02:50 <DrJoeTron> haha
02:50 <DrJoeTron> they sell precooked frozen ones
02:50 <DrJoeTron> btw
02:50 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma your stuff is boxed up
02:50 <Your_mom_arma> frozen whitecastle isnt the same as the real thing
02:53 <DrJoeTron> I woke up with a clowns hand in my pants...Thats what I did today
02:53 <Your_mom_arma> gross?
02:54 <DrJoeTron> :( 
02:55 <Your_mom_arma> your not serious right?
02:57 <Your_mom_arma> creepy silence
02:57 <DrJoeTron> metalocalypse... 
02:58 <Your_mom_arma> the newer ones have been less notable for me
02:58 <Your_mom_arma> blood ocean
02:58 <DrJoeTron> that was meh
02:58 <Your_mom_arma> i've been dissapointes i just hope it starts to pick up again
02:59 <DrJoeTron> but the dr. rockso one was great
02:59 <Your_mom_arma> the first 4 where gold
02:59 <DrJoeTron> the first one was alright to me
02:59 <Your_mom_arma> they raised my hopes then they dashed them
02:59 <DrJoeTron> the birthday one is still my favorite one
02:59 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:01 <Your_mom_arma> joe care to explain wth they where thinking with assy mcgee
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> that custang guy just PMd me to ask me the normal cost of a server
03:01 <Lucifer_arma> I replied.  :)  "Cost of a PC and an internet connection"
03:01 <Your_mom_arma> nice haha
03:02 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma hey PM'd you too?
03:02 <Your_mom_arma> joe seemed like an hour long ass joke
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, I'm not the only one he's spamming?
03:02 <Lucifer_arma> Joe's a Turdist, clearly
03:02 <ghableska> haha
03:02 <DrJoeTron> what they were thinking with assy mcgee?
03:03 <DrJoeTron> they were thinking "we'll watch anything"
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> isn't there a song about him?  "Me and my assy mcgee"
03:03 <DrJoeTron> they are the next generation of hannah barbara cartoons
03:03 <Lucifer_arma> "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose, nothing, and my assy assy mcgee!"
03:03 <DrJoeTron> its all cartoons with one lame joke
03:03 <DrJoeTron> and they take it and run with it
03:05 <DrJoeTron> hey, how much does a normal server cost???
03:06 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if he's spamming zman with it too
03:06 <DrJoeTron> he is
03:06 <DrJoeTron> wait
03:06 <DrJoeTron> did he just repost
03:06 <DrJoeTron> ?
03:07 <Your_mom_arma> zman managed to run a half decent server on a 200mhz intel
03:07 <spidey> #last --with spidey
03:07 <armabot> spidey: [01:37:51] <luke-jr_work> and mail spidey's proof
03:07 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
03:07 <armabot> spidey: [03:10:31] <spidey> #last --with spidey, [01:37:51] <luke-jr_work> and mail spidey's proof, [00:59:58] <luke-jr_work> spidey: no, His mother isn't divine, [00:59:44] <luke-jr_work> spidey: yes He does, [00:52:57] <luke-jr_work> spidey: that's nonsense made up by anarchists, [00:51:05] <luke-jr_work> spidey: yeah, but you need to take a scientist's word that it's real science, [00:47:44] <luke-jr_work> spidey: (14 more messages)
03:07 <DrJoeTron> yeah really
03:08 <Your_mom_arma> whats wrong with anarchy?
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> I love the antichrist, put another dime in the jukebox baby!
03:09 <Your_mom_arma> anarchy works in a perfect world along with communism
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> anarchy leads to natural selection
03:09 <Lucifer_arma> which is known to be evil
03:09 <Your_mom_arma> haha
03:10 <DrJoeTron> PINKO COMMIE
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> natural selection is powered by the forces of evil!
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> RED is the color of communism!
03:10 <Lucifer_arma> it is mere coincidence that it is the color of blood
03:10 <Your_mom_arma> natural selection leads to thinking about evolution so it must be
03:12 <DrJoeTron> RED is the color of your blood if you are communist!
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> lobsters are communist, joe
03:12 <Your_mom_arma> luke-jr do you believe cockroaches can survive extreme radiation from nuclear sources?
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> you're not fooling anyone
03:12 <DrJoeTron> we're more of a brown :/
03:12 <DrJoeTron> untill we're cooked
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> then you're communist?
03:12 <DrJoeTron> yeah, we show our true colors
03:12 <Lucifer_arma> so are you saying that lobsters are Turdists until they're cooked, at which point they become communists?
03:13 <DrJoeTron> correct
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> can this be independently verified?
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> does it apply to crawfish?  If it does, then I can go down to papadeux and ask the crawfish in the tank if they're Turdists
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> then I can order one to eat, and ask it if it's communist!
03:14 <DrJoeTron> nah, crawfish are chill
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> I love the antichrist, so dunceanotherdoonanda don't say me!
03:15 <DrJoeTron> good god
03:15 <DrJoeTron> the video game awards still exsist?
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> wherever there are people, there will be people patting themselves on the back for mediocrity
03:17  * Lucifer_arma takes this opportunity to remind everyone he was a smeghead when he first posted on the boards, and he's still a smeghead
03:17 <ghableska> when did you first post?
03:19 <Your_mom_arma> im still a jerk
03:19  * ghableska doesn't post
03:19 <spidey> haha!
03:20 <spidey> they're advertising this game store and they called the other game stores "newbies"
03:20 <spidey> i got a kick out of that
03:20 <spidey> it was on the radio
03:20 <DrJoeTron> I'm still a jerk as well
03:20 <spidey> no you're not
03:20 <spidey> you're just a asshole
03:20 <spidey> or...a whole ass
03:20 <spidey> ;x
03:20 <DrJoeTron> now with 25% less spelling and grammar errors :)
03:21 <DrJoeTron> am I a pretty ass?
03:21 <spidey> no
03:21 <spidey> you're butt ass ugly
03:21 <spidey> you're like
03:22 <spidey> i dunno, but it's bad!
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> long time ago
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=1011&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> that's not my first post, just the one I was thinking of
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> I still have the picture I drew, too.  :)  I think, hmmmm
03:23 <ghableska> nice responses ;)
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I think I still have it
03:23 <ghableska> have the link? :P
03:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/ik.JPG  <--- sabarai :)
03:24 <ghableska> hahaha
03:24 <DrJoeTron> OH GOD
03:24 <DrJoeTron> this reminds me
03:24 <DrJoeTron> when nicolus b was extremely drunl
03:24 <ghableska> "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
03:24 <ghableska> Rolling Eyes"
03:24 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: you've changed :)
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> not at all :)
03:24 <ghableska> heh
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'd do it again, it was awesome
03:24 <DrJoeTron> he pm'd me and sent me a pictur with mega man and his dog doing bad things
03:24 <Lucifer_arma> hahahaha
03:25 <ghableska> haha
03:25 <DrJoeTron> it was very not mind safe
03:25 <DrJoeTron> I kept the pm
03:25 <DrJoeTron> but the picture ran away
03:25 <ghableska> oh?
03:26 <DrJoeTron> but the pm was titled mega ooooh! XXX
03:26 <ghableska> maybe your inbox is a prude
03:26 <DrJoeTron> :/ it was really creepy
03:26 <DrJoeTron> id look it up
03:26 <DrJoeTron> but I dont want google thinking less of me :
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> oh no, he's drawing her in color now
03:27 <Lucifer_arma> I'm so fucked
03:28 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:28 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 41.0°F (7:54 PM CST on December 13, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa. 
03:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2281
03:29 <DrJoeTron> looks like iceman's site is dead
03:29 <DrJoeTron> and parked
03:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2280  <--- that girl at the end, I'm in love with her
03:30 <ghableska> "libidoboost?"
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2273  <--- reminds me, I need to cook dinner, the meat's thawing right now
03:31 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
03:31 <DrJoeTron> anyone here read achewood?
03:32 <ghableska> no
03:33 <DrJoeTron> :/
03:33 <DrJoeTron> I miss mac hall 
03:33 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2261  <-- start here and read the next 5-6 strips
03:34 <spidey> #check position
03:34 <armabot> spidey: No spelling suggestion made.  This could mean that the word you gave is spelled right; it could also mean that its spelling was too whacked out even for Google to figure out.
03:34 <spidey> #check posistion
03:35 <armabot> spidey: position
03:35 <ghableska> ...
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03:37 <DrJoeTron> http://www.machall.com/index.php?strip_id=334 this will forever shine in my heart :)
03:38 <ghableska> O_o
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2244  -- luke-jr
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> er
03:38 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2244  <-- luke-jr
03:39 <DrJoeTron> http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF203-Bad_Apple.jpg#193 :D
03:41 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2235
03:42 <ghableska> lol
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2231
03:44 <ghableska> hahaha
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2224  <-- put this on a christmas card, send it to luke-jr (hi there!) 
03:46 <ghableska> nice
03:46 <ghableska> Don't fuck with Jesus :)
03:47 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2218  <--- damn, looks like he's restarting the love thread with her and slick
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2217  <--- haha
03:48 <Lucifer_arma> apparently I need to get caught up with sinfest
03:48 <DrJoeTron> http://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF051AD-Colonel_Sweeto.jpg#120
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04:12 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2212
04:20 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2194
04:20 <spidey> OMG
04:20 <spidey> i hate CSS
04:20 <spidey> it's so fucking moody
04:20 <spidey> like
04:20 <spidey> you make one small change
04:20 <ghableska> o.0
04:20 <spidey> "FUCK YOU I DIDN'T LIKE THAT,NOW I'M JUST GONNA THROW THINGS IN RANDOM PLACES"
04:21 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2189 <-- hahaha, wonderslut
04:22 <ghableska> "I sex with you"
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2184  <--- always wondered how to pray
04:24 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2180 <--- haha, I love the god finger puppet thing
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2176
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> that last one's for luke
04:28 <spidey> #g 24.2% + 76.4%
04:28 <armabot> spidey: (24.2%) + (76.4%) = 1.00600
04:28 <spidey> er
04:28 <spidey> #g 24.2 + 76.4
04:28 <armabot> spidey: 24.2 + 76.4 = 100.6
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit, that's more than 100%
04:28 <spidey> only by .6
04:29 <spidey> means i have to make my sidebar and content page smaller
04:29 <spidey> #g 24.2 + 66.4
04:29 <armabot> spidey: 24.2 + 66.4 = 90.6
04:29 <spidey> hm
04:30 <spidey> i have to make it smaller by
04:30 <spidey> 5.6%
04:30 <spidey> there we go
04:31 <spidey> now to figure out why i have a big ass gap between the header and the rest of it..
04:33 <spidey> that makes no sense
04:33 <spidey> ah
04:33 <spidey> i mixed up top: and height:
04:34 <spidey> so i got the wrong answer >.>
04:34 <GodTodd> spidey has a big ass gap?
04:34 <spidey> yea
04:34 <GodTodd> too much butt sex?
04:34 <spidey> it's DrJoeTron's fault
04:35 <ghableska> yeah, I warned him...
04:35 <GodTodd> nah...joe's a needle
04:37 <GodTodd> that's why i'm always the giver ;)
04:43 <spidey> i love how compatible percents and pixels are
04:43 <spidey> :(
04:45 <GodTodd> well...think about it...at different resolutions 1 pixel is a different percent of the screen
04:45 <spidey> ...
04:45 <spidey> i know that
04:46 <spidey> i got tired of messing with it
04:46 <spidey> so
04:46 <spidey> right: 1px;
04:46 <spidey> and fuck it
04:49 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: don't ever do that again
04:49 <spidey> DO IT!
04:49 <spidey> what'd he do?
04:50 <ghableska> heh
04:50 <ghableska> spidey: #realchatlogs
04:50 <luke-jr> btw, pixels and percentages are compatible-- but they're not a fixed multiple of each other, of course
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> what did I do?
04:51 <spidey> <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2176
04:51 <spidey> <Lucifer_arma> that last one's for luke
04:51 <spidey> that?
04:51 <luke-jr> he posted a comic link
04:51 <luke-jr> so I had to read it all
04:51 <luke-jr> just finished -.-
04:52 <spidey> LOL
04:52  * luke-jr has a lack of self-control when it comes to reading comics
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> it's a cool comic
04:52 <GodTodd> luke has no lack of wife-control, however
04:53 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: it still takes time to read
04:53 <spidey> luke-jr, what's the equivalent of right:  for IE?
04:53 <spidey> :p
04:53 <luke-jr> spidey: eh?
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> should I post a sexylosers link now?
04:53 <spidey> IE doesn't recognize right:
04:53 <luke-jr> so?
04:53 <spidey> alot of people still use IE :p
04:54 <luke-jr> you should almost never need to use 'right' or 'left'
04:54 <luke-jr> /ignore Lucifer_arma
04:54 <spidey> i do when the side bar is 150px and i need the content to fill the rest of it
04:54 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: yes
04:54 <spidey> and be liquid
04:54 <luke-jr> spidey: you should never specify the width of a sidebar in pixels
04:54 <spidey> well
04:55 <luke-jr> at 1000 dpi, 150px is TINY
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sexylosers.com/
04:55 <spidey> in big resolutions it's to big
04:55 <spidey> 'er
04:55 <spidey> to small
04:55 <luke-jr> and vice versa
04:55 <spidey> yea
04:55 <luke-jr> that's why we have em/ex units
04:55 <luke-jr> and percentages
04:55 <spidey> it looks fine at 1280x1024
04:55 <luke-jr> websites should look the same at any resolution
04:55 <luke-jr> if they look diff, it's a bug :p
04:56 <spidey> ..
04:56 <luke-jr> resolution/DPI control display quality, the content itself should never change
04:57 <spidey> well
04:57 <spidey> atleast IE does left:
04:57 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2151  <--- hail the magic 8 ball
04:57 <luke-jr> you shouldn't be using left
04:58 <spidey> i shouldn't use alot of things
04:58 <spidey> but i am
04:58 <luke-jr> :p
04:58 <luke-jr> float: left works nicely
04:59 <spidey> actually
04:59 <spidey> if i was using that
04:59 <spidey> it'd be float : right;
04:59 <spidey> because i want it more to the right
04:59 <spidey> ;p
04:59 <spidey> i had that at first
04:59 <spidey> but when i added something the whole thing fucked up, so i'm redoing it
05:00 <spidey> 'er
05:00 <luke-jr> well get rid of the pixels at least
05:00 <spidey> #g 75.4-14.6
05:00 <armabot> spidey: 75.4 - 14.6 = 60.8
05:01 <luke-jr> 75+25=100
05:01 <luke-jr> easy
05:01 <spidey> #g 100-14.6
05:01 <armabot> spidey: 100 - 14.6 = 85.4
05:01 <spidey> was 10 off ;/
05:01 <luke-jr> ...
05:01 <spidey> the width of the page =100%
05:01 <spidey> right?
05:01 <luke-jr> no
05:01 <spidey> yes
05:01 <luke-jr> 100% is the width of the parent element
05:02 <spidey> ...
05:02 <spidey> w/e
05:02 <luke-jr> so if you have a <div> with width 50% under body, it's 50% of the browser window's width
05:02 <luke-jr> a <div> beneath that at 50% is 25% of the browser window, or 50% of the parent <div>
05:03 <spidey> omg
05:03 <spidey> no shit?
05:03 <spidey> you can't be serious
05:03 <spidey> so if you have a <div> with width 50% under body, it's 50% of the browser window's width
05:03 <spidey> in other words
05:03 <spidey> the fucking browser width = 100%
05:04 <luke-jr> only for a <div> immediately under the body
05:05 <luke-jr> not for most elements
05:05 <spidey> ..
05:05 <spidey> you make a div layer
05:05 <spidey> give it a width of 100%
05:05 <spidey> how much of the browser window will it take up?
05:05 <luke-jr> depends where the div is
05:05 <spidey> ..
05:05 <luke-jr> wtf is a "layer"?
05:06 <spidey> 'er
05:06 <luke-jr> <body><div width=50%><div width=50% id=foo>
05:06 <luke-jr> foo takes up 25% of the browser window
05:06 <luke-jr> half of half
05:06 <luke-jr> btw, that's totally invalid XHTML and for example purposes only
05:06 <spidey> http://www.xentrik.net/css/layers.php
05:06 <spidey> read
05:07 <luke-jr> yeah, ok so this random website made up the term 'layers' for divs
05:08 <spidey> http://www.kirenai.net/divs/
05:08 <spidey> http://aspalliance.com/1060_How_to_Popup_a_Window_Using_DIV_Layer_in_ASPNET_1x2x
05:08 <spidey> should i keep going?
05:08 <luke-jr> yay, more random non-authoritative sites
05:08 <luke-jr> at least the second one doesn't recommend pixels
05:09 <luke-jr> Your search - "div layer" site:w3.org - did not match any documents. 
05:10 <GodTodd> heh....luke will not take unverifiable evidence as proof of something? i call hypocrite
05:10 <ghableska> I'm going to bed.
05:10 <luke-jr> pretty sure hypocrit doesn't have an e
05:10 <ghableska> #night
05:10 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
05:10 <luke-jr> ...but I'm wrong
05:10 <luke-jr> oh well
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05:11 <GodTodd> *gasp* luke is wrong?
05:11 <GodTodd> say it ain't so!
05:12 <GodTodd> #dict hypocrite
05:12 <armabot> GodTodd: easton, wn, devils, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: hypocrite n : a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold [syn: {dissembler}, {phony}, {phoney}, {pretender}]; easton: Hypocrite one who puts on a mask and feigns himself to be what he is not; a dissembler in religion. Our Lord severely rebuked the scribes and Pharisees for their hypocrisy (Matt. 6:2, 5, 16). "The (6 more messages)
05:12 <GodTodd> #dict hypocrit
05:12 <armabot> GodTodd: No definition for "hypocrit" could be found.
05:13 <GodTodd> ahhh...but they need to add it...cuz we cannot have luke be wrong about anything
05:15 <spidey> lol
05:16 <GodTodd> luke...i'm still waiting for your divine civilization wisdom as to what i should be doing with my cities
05:16 <spidey> omg
05:16 <spidey> no
05:16 <spidey> DO NOT LISTEN TO LUKE
05:16 <GodTodd> i cannot do anything until you tell me what to do
05:16 <spidey> he sucks at that game
05:16 <spidey> did i say that outloud?
05:16 <luke-jr> you should meet me
05:16 <luke-jr> and give me all your stuff
05:16 <GodTodd> heh...he questioned my actions so i figure he must be the best there is at it and i need to do whatever he says
05:16 <spidey> no, give ME all your stuff
05:17 <GodTodd> ok...done...i quit
05:17 <GodTodd> :)
05:17 <spidey> give them to me
05:17 <spidey> fuck luke
05:17 <luke-jr> GodTodd: I didn't question anything
05:17 <GodTodd> ummm no...*you* fuck luke
05:17 <spidey> lol
05:17 <GodTodd> #last --from luke --with eiffel
05:17 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 21280 messages.
05:17 <GodTodd> bah
05:18 <GodTodd> yeah you did you lying fuck
05:18 <spidey> LOL
05:18 <spidey> don't listen to luke
05:18 <spidey> besides
05:18 <spidey> he always loses
05:19 <GodTodd> i will *not* be called a liar by someone who has no idea what truth is
05:19 <spidey> AMEN!
05:19 <spidey> :))
05:19 <luke-jr> so I'm the only one allowed to call you a liar?
05:19 <GodTodd> what is truth, moron?
05:19 <spidey> EW
05:20 <spidey> I KNOW
05:20 <luke-jr> God
05:20 <spidey> PICK ME, PICK ME
05:20 <GodTodd> yeah...my god is truth
05:20 <spidey> luke-jr, you made a 0%
05:20 <spidey> sorry
05:20 <GodTodd> i will go with that
05:20 <spidey> you failed
05:20 <spidey> MY TURN
05:20 <spidey> the truth is
05:20 <spidey> luke-jr is the sux
05:21 <GodTodd> no...luke is a little boy trying to pose as a man
05:21 <spidey> lol
05:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:21 <GodTodd> that's why he needs a wife and god to control his life
05:21 <spidey> omg
05:21 <spidey> he's gonna kick todd
05:21 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b %GodTodd!*@*] by luke-jr
05:21 <spidey> abuse of powers
05:21 <@luke-jr> nah, just mute him for a bit
05:22 <@luke-jr> not abuse of powers
05:22 <spidey> btw
05:22 <spidey> todd
05:22 <spidey> change your real name
05:22 <@luke-jr> hah
05:22 <spidey> you'll get back in :)
05:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b %GodTodd!*@*] by luke-jr
05:23 <GodTodd> what have i done that is kickable or mutable?
05:23 <GodTodd> you mute those who challenge you?
05:23 <@luke-jr> I mute those who are verbally abusive to an excess
05:23 <GodTodd> such as?
05:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:23 <spidey> luke-jr, be mature
05:24 <spidey> learn to use your /ignore
05:24 <GodTodd> oh, yeah....he doesn't need proof
05:24 <spidey> oh wait
05:24 <spidey> nvm, i forgot
05:24 <spidey> ;x
05:24 <GodTodd> the truth offends apparently
05:24 <luke-jr> no, your lies and abuse do
05:24 <GodTodd> what lies?
05:24 <GodTodd> what abuse?
05:24 <luke-jr> now cut that crap out
05:24 <GodTodd> cut what out?
05:25 <luke-jr> stop playing/being stupid
05:25 <spidey> GodTodd, you denying his god is real
05:25 <GodTodd> show me what i'm supposed to stop
05:25 <spidey> it's mentally abusive!
05:25 <luke-jr> stop playing/being stupid
05:25 <GodTodd> i'm not playing
05:25 <GodTodd> and i'm not being stupid
05:25 <GodTodd> i'm telling it like it is
05:25 <GodTodd> and you have yet to show me how i'm lying
05:26 <spidey> to bad Lucifer_arma isn't here
05:26 <spidey> he'd sure abuse luke for the hell of it
05:26 <spidey> :))
05:26 <GodTodd> i want to know how anything i've said is worse than anyone else
05:26 <GodTodd> now
05:26 <GodTodd> or i will call abuse of power
05:26 <luke-jr> did I say it was much worse than anyone else?
05:27 <GodTodd> then why was i muted?
05:27 <luke-jr> only reason spidey wasn't muted was because he's made it clear he doesn't mean it
05:27 <luke-jr> and you were the only other one at that particular time doing it
05:27 <GodTodd> and the others?
05:27 <GodTodd> before?
05:27 <GodTodd> or is this a "punishment window"?
05:27 <luke-jr> you hadn't pushed my patience before
05:27 <GodTodd> if so, you might want to post the hours on the topic
05:28 <GodTodd> the truth pushes your patience?
05:28 <luke-jr> just stfu and learn your lesson
05:28 <GodTodd> no
05:28 <spidey> LOL!
05:28 <spidey> OMG!
05:28 <GodTodd> my lesson is what?
05:28 <spidey> i loved that!
05:28 <GodTodd> to not challenge luke?
05:28 <GodTodd> fuck that
05:28 <luke-jr> to not be verbally abusive
05:28 <GodTodd> show how i was verbally abusive
05:29 <spidey> to bad it's only chat, i'm sure it'd be physically abusive otherwise!
05:29 <GodTodd> show how i was verbally abusive
05:29 <luke-jr> [Thu Dec 14 2006] [04:18:30] <GodTodd>  ummm no...*you* fuck luke
05:29 <luke-jr> [Thu Dec 14 2006] [03:53:46] <GodTodd>  luke has no lack of wife-control, however
05:29 <luke-jr> [Thu Dec 14 2006] [04:21:57] <GodTodd>  no...luke is a little boy trying to pose as a man
05:29 <spidey> SHIT! MY MUTE BUTTON ISN'T WOR...(drop kick)
05:29 <GodTodd> the first wasn't even directed at you
05:30 <luke-jr> [Sun Dec 10 2006] [06:11:20] <GodTodd>  heh luke's an ass
05:30 <luke-jr> [Sun Dec 10 2006] [06:12:52] <GodTodd>  ok...amend that....luke's an ass that can't formulate a complete intelligent sentence in response to anyone
05:30 <GodTodd> yeah....that's the worst that anyone has said about you
05:30 <GodTodd> right...
05:30 <luke-jr> nah, that's just all grep finds easily
05:31 <GodTodd> i'm being persecuted
05:31 <spidey> omfg
05:31 <spidey> will ANYONE ever learn
05:31 <spidey> this is the internet
05:31 <spidey> this is chat
05:31 <GodTodd> my beliefs are getting me "punished"....i'm being persecuted
05:31 <GodTodd> spidey: i'm aware of that...it's luke that is "exerting control" on a chat room
05:31 <luke-jr> if so, at least your beliefs are wrong and as such have no rights
05:32 <GodTodd> prove they're wrong?
05:32 <GodTodd> and btw that's verbal abuse
05:32 <GodTodd> mute yourself
05:32 <luke-jr> which one?
05:32 <spidey> lol!
05:32 <luke-jr> you're the one claiming persecution right now
05:32 <GodTodd> <luke-jr> if so, at least your beliefs are wrong and as such have no rights
05:32 <GodTodd> that's abusicve
05:32 <GodTodd> abusive*
05:32 <luke-jr> no, that's plain fact
05:33 <GodTodd> so were my statements
05:33 <spidey> so
05:33 <spidey> if
05:33 <spidey> i say
05:33 <luke-jr> nope
05:33 <GodTodd> yep
05:33 <spidey> you're blind and ignarent
05:33 <DrJoeTron> ...
05:33 <spidey> i'm telling a plain fact?
05:33 <luke-jr> nope, cuz it's not true
05:33 <luke-jr> [Wed Dec 13 2006] [06:14:18] <luke-jr>  GodTodd: wtf... Eiffel Tower??
05:33 <luke-jr> [Wed Dec 13 2006] [06:16:00] <GodTodd>  what of it?
05:33 <luke-jr> [Wed Dec 13 2006] [06:19:55] <luke-jr>  never seen anyone seriously consider it
05:33 <luke-jr> a priority before, :p
05:33 <GodTodd> no...because it's against luke's beliefs
05:34 <GodTodd> <luke-jr> [Wed Dec 13 2006] [06:14:18] <luke-jr>  GodTodd: wtf... Eiffel Tower??
05:34 <spidey> of course
05:34 <GodTodd> and that's not a question?
05:34 <luke-jr> no, that's an exclamation
05:34 <GodTodd> then why the question marks?
05:34 <GodTodd> ! is an exclamation mark
05:35 <luke-jr> two question marks :p
05:35 <GodTodd> so that proves i wasn't lying and you were
05:36  * GodTodd edits Strunk & White because apparently ??==!
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr eats shit and likes it
05:37 <GodTodd> watch out?? you'll get muted??
05:38 <DrJoeTron> wow??
05:38 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd?? Look out??
05:39 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:39 -!- luke-jr changed the topic of #armagetron to: 0.2.8.2.1 has been released?? | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
05:39 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:39 <DrJoeTron> ahahaha
05:39 <DrJoeTron> that's great??
05:39 <GodTodd> luke-jr: have you muted Lucifer_arma yet?
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+m] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v [NP]Tangent] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v [Xpert]DarkStar] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v armabot] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v guru3] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v j0h4nn3s] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v luke-jr_work] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v mkzelda] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Plazma] by luke-jr
05:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v spidey] by luke-jr
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v wrtlprnft] by luke-jr
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v z-man-work] by luke-jr
05:41 <+spidey> guru3, luke-jr's abusing op
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:42 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-67-37-179-152.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has quit [Client Quit]
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05:42 <+luke-jr> wow, laggy??
05:42 <+spidey> you guys "could" use /notice
05:42 <+spidey> /notice #armagetron whatever
05:42 <+luke-jr> am not
05:43 <+luke-jr> wb
05:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o DrJoeTr0n] by luke-jr
05:43 <@luke-jr> or luci could just voice em
05:43 <@luke-jr> or -m
05:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v Lucifer_arma] by DrJoeTr0n
05:43  * luke-jr wonders if this is even getting through
05:43 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v GodTodd] by DrJoeTr0n
05:43 <@DrJoeTr0n> let them speak!
05:44 -!- DrJoeTr0n is now known as DrJoeTron
05:44 <+GodTodd> anyway...as said before....luke has no control in his real life so has to exert what little he has here
05:44 <+GodTodd> heh
05:44 <@DrJoeTron> we settle this like gentleman
05:44 <@luke-jr> can anyone hear me?
05:44 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@CPE-24-31-246-32.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
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05:45 <+GodTodd> and how can you "hear" on a chat window?
05:45 <+spidey> text to speach?
05:45 <+spidey> duh
05:45 <+GodTodd> but, no, *i'm* the stupid one
05:45 <@DrJoeTron> stoopid :P
05:46 <+GodTodd> at least i finally got luke to overreact :)
05:46 <+GodTodd> i'm very proud of that :D
05:46 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@CPE-24-31-246-32.kc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
05:46 <+GodTodd> quitter
05:47 <@DrJoeTron> I havent replied spidey 
05:47 <+spidey> ghey
05:47 <+spidey> you should have kickbanned luke ;x
05:47 <@DrJoeTron> karma said not to
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05:47 <+spidey> karma lies
05:47 <+GodTodd> no...luke is a little boy trying to pose as a man
05:48 <+spidey> AMEN BRUTHA!
05:48 <+spidey> ;x
05:48 <@DrJoeTron> I actually want this position to silence the chitlins who come in here
05:48 <+GodTodd> that's what started it all :D
05:48 <@DrJoeTron> like Canada
05:48 <+GodTodd> which was right after spidey had "verbally abused" him as well
05:48 <+spidey> i'm allowed to
05:49 <+spidey> what i say makes no sense anyways
05:49 <+spidey> so booya
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
05:49 <+spidey> haha!
05:49 <@luke-jr> spidey: hi
05:49 <+spidey> luke can't talk
05:49 <+spidey> ;x
05:49 <+GodTodd> ahh...so because i make sense he gets pissed
05:49 <+spidey> oh
05:49 <+spidey> ;/
05:49 <+GodTodd> i get it
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:49 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
05:49 <@DrJoeTron> oh right
05:49 <+luke-jr> finally the lag is gone?
05:49 <@DrJoeTron> haha sorry
05:49  * luke-jr appoints DrJoeTron moderator of the hour
05:49 <+spidey> what lag?
05:50 <+luke-jr> spidey: the lag only affecting me apparently
05:50 <@DrJoeTron> huzzah!
05:50 <+luke-jr> started when I voiced everyone
05:50 <+spidey> must be affecting only you
05:50 <@DrJoeTron> hey whats the password for op
05:50 <+spidey> ..
05:50 <+luke-jr> spidey: yeah, that's what I said
05:50 <+spidey> there isn't a password
05:50 <+spidey> nub
05:50 <+luke-jr> DrJoeTron: ... there is no pass
05:50 <+luke-jr> lol
05:50 <@DrJoeTron> ah
05:50 <@DrJoeTron> ok
05:51 <+luke-jr> so DrJoeTron
05:51 <@DrJoeTron> yo
05:51 <+luke-jr> is GodTodd being mean to me?
05:51 <@DrJoeTron> you're all being mean
05:51 <+spidey> wtf you mean
05:51 <+GodTodd> btw luke...go ahead and ai me in your game
05:51 <+spidey> being "mean" to luke is like a motto
05:51 <+spidey> it's necassary
05:52 <@DrJoeTron> I cant really judge either
05:52 <@DrJoeTron> seeing as I started paying attention 20 minutes ago
05:52 <@DrJoeTron> by the time I paid any attention you were both incredibly nasty
05:53 <+luke-jr> what you say??
05:53 <+spidey> suck up
05:53 <@DrJoeTron> how is that sucking up?
05:53 <+spidey> be a man!
05:53 <@DrJoeTron> more like sucking down
05:53 <+spidey> join the fight against luke!
05:53 <+luke-jr> GodTodd: no
05:53 <+luke-jr> AI yourself noob
05:53 <@DrJoeTron> hey, I'm the neutral guy,
05:53 <+Lucifer_arma> dfdf
05:53 <+GodTodd> luke-jr: fine, whatever you want i ain't playing it again
05:53 <+luke-jr> df -h
05:53 <@DrJoeTron> should I die, tell my wife I said, hello
05:53 <+spidey> there is no such thing as nutural
05:53 <+GodTodd> and please quit verbally abusing me
05:53 <+spidey> either you're a shark
05:54 <+Lucifer_arma> luke-jr sucks down
05:54 <+spidey> or a guppy
05:54 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by DrJoeTron
05:54 <+luke-jr> haha
05:54 <+luke-jr> he had that coming :x
05:54 <@DrJoeTron> guppy
05:54 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v spidey] by DrJoeTron
05:54 <+spidey> pwn
05:55 <@DrJoeTron> I'm more like the firsherman
05:55 <@DrJoeTron> ;p
05:55 <+spidey> fisherman gets pwnt by great white
05:55 <+spidey> haven't you ever seen jaws?
05:55 <+luke-jr> GodTodd: whynot?
05:55 <+spidey> dun.....dun....dundundundun
05:55 <+spidey> PWNED NOOB
05:55 <+GodTodd> why not what?
05:55 <@DrJoeTron> #rules
05:55 <+armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
05:56 <@DrJoeTron> that does need to be a little revised
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05:56 <+spidey> PWN PWN PWN PWN
05:56 <+spidey> ZOMG I SAID PWN
05:56 <+spidey> lets like
05:56 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by DrJoeTron
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05:56 <+GodTodd> luke-jr: please specify what you are speaking of when addressing me, good sir.
05:57 <@DrJoeTron> alright Im outta here
05:57  * Lucifer_arma would like to point out his new avatar
05:57 <+luke-jr> DrJoeTron: you got 2 more minutes :p
05:57 <+Lucifer_arma> which pretty much sums up my entire attitude
05:57 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v spidey] by DrJoeTron
05:57  * luke-jr notes most IRC clients don't support avatars
05:57 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o DrJoeTron] by DrJoeTron
05:57 <+Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=121231#121231
05:57  * Lucifer_arma notes he wasn't talking about an irc avatar in case any dumbshit thought he was
05:58 <+spidey> haha
05:58 <+spidey> i just found a way to crash xchat :D
05:58  * luke-jr notes Lucifer_arma is the idiot who referred to an avatar in IRC
05:58 <+spidey> keep being mean to me joe ;x
05:58 <+Lucifer_arma> abusing luke-jr?
05:58  * GodTodd gasps...that could be construed as verbally abusive?? ;)
05:58 <+spidey> omg
05:58 <+spidey> he said idiot
05:58  * Lucifer_arma points out that something in an action can't be considered verbal unless it's explicitly stated so.
05:58 <+spidey> REMOVE HIS VOICE
05:59  * luke-jr said nothing of the sort
05:59 <+luke-jr> :)
05:59 <+spidey>  luke-jr notes Lucifer_arma is the idiot who referred to an avatar in IRC
05:59 <+spidey> logs don't lie
05:59 <+Lucifer_arma> luke-jr can't take away my voice, I'm the only one around who who even infrequently takes his side in anything
05:59  * luke-jr notes he didn't say it
06:00 <+GodTodd> stfu and learn your lesson
06:00 <+Lucifer_arma> [22:59] * Lucifer_arma points out that something in an action can't be considered verbal unless it's explicitly stated so.
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06:00 <+Lucifer_arma> ironically, the person most abused around here is probably spidey
06:00 <+Lucifer_arma> but he's not dumb enough to take it personally and go nuclear in here
06:00 <+spidey> LOL
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06:00 <+spidey> i don't care
06:00 <+spidey> because
06:00 <+spidey> wait...
06:00  * luke-jr doesn't consider temporary +q/+m nuclear
06:00 <+Lucifer_arma> at least, he's the person I abuse the most
06:01 <+spidey> it's the INTERNET
06:01 <+spidey> omg
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06:01 <+spidey> no way
06:01 <+spidey> um
06:01 <+spidey> btw
06:01 <+Lucifer_arma> oh good, custang is here to ask luke-jr (hi there!) to host a server for him
06:01 <+spidey> freenode doesn't have +q
06:01 <+luke-jr> yes it does
06:01 <+spidey> +q = admin
06:01 <+luke-jr> +q = silenced
06:01 <+spidey> no
06:02 <+spidey> freenode is gay with permissions and modes
06:02 <+GodTodd> no...custang can't ask for a server cuz he cannot speak ;)
06:02 <+spidey> this is a custom server
06:02 <+spidey> it's not a default
06:02 <+spidey> so
06:02 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
06:02 <+spidey> +q = admin
06:02 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v custang] by luke-jr
06:02 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v DrJoeTron] by luke-jr
06:02 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o custang] by luke-jr
06:02 <+Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, he can't because luke (cockeater)-jr (hi there!) said he couldn't
06:02 <+spidey> hey genius
06:02 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
06:02 <@custang> hMMM whats happening lol
06:02 <+spidey> you don't have to op yourself everytime
06:02 <+Lucifer_arma> he opped custang
06:02 <+luke-jr> spidey: +q doesn't exist in any standard IRC definition
06:03 <+Lucifer_arma> smooth move ex-lax, you opped custang
06:03 <+spidey> yes it does
06:03 <+Lucifer_arma> custang, do "/kick luke (cockeater)-jr"
06:03 <+spidey> irc noob
06:03 <+luke-jr> I know I did
06:03 <+luke-jr> spidey: no, you're the noob
06:03 <@custang> lol why
06:03 <+spidey> you're the irc noob
06:03 <+Lucifer_arma> because it's fun :)
06:03 <+luke-jr> nope
06:03 <+spidey> custang, we'll give you a dollar
06:03 <+luke-jr> I've been on IRC for years
06:03 <+spidey> luke-jr, i've been longer
06:03 <+luke-jr> liar
06:03 <@custang> dollar for what
06:03 <+spidey> am not
06:03 <+Lucifer_arma> you'll generate so much warmth and fuzziness here, we might actually answer your question seriously
06:04 <+luke-jr> IRC channel modes are: tnsipmklov
06:04 <+luke-jr> no q
06:04 <+spidey> custang, type /kick luke-jr
06:04 <+spidey> it means you're cool
06:04 <@custang> lol it kicks him
06:04 <+spidey> luke-jr, no shit???????
06:04 <+spidey> OMG
06:04 <+spidey> what did i just say
06:04 <+spidey> noo
06:04 <+spidey> noob
06:04 <+Lucifer_arma> yes, and it's funnier than shit, please please do it!
06:04 <+Lucifer_arma> he won't hate you for it
06:04 <+spidey> freenode doesn't have +q
06:04 -!- luke-jr was kicked from #armagetron by custang [custang]
06:04 <+spidey> because freenode isn't "standard irc"
06:04 <+Lucifer_arma> awesome
06:05 <+Lucifer_arma> thank you :)
06:05 <@custang> lol????
06:05 <+spidey> now
06:05 <+spidey> do this
06:05 <+spidey> /mode #armagetron +b *!*luke@*!*
06:05 <+spidey> /mode #armagetron +b *!*luke*!*@*!*
06:05 <+spidey> do that
06:05 <+spidey> :)
06:05 <@custang> slol why hats it do
06:05 <+spidey> lol!
06:05 <@custang> whats it do *
06:05 <+spidey> ban him ;x
06:06 <+spidey> 'er
06:06 <@custang> :0 im not that mean
06:06 <+Lucifer_arma> no, don't ban him
06:06 <+spidey> i mean invites him back
06:06 <+Lucifer_arma> no /op Lucifer_arma
06:06 <+spidey> oh yea
06:06 <+Lucifer_arma> er
06:06 -!- luke-jr [n=luke-jr@CPE-24-31-246-32.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
06:06 <+spidey> lol!!
06:06 <+Lucifer_arma> *now /op Lucifer_arma
06:06 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
06:06 <+spidey> lol!!!!
06:06 <@luke-jr> Luci op yourself
06:06 <@custang> lol why am i like admin here???
06:06 <@luke-jr> lazy
06:06 -!- mode/#armagetron [-m] by luke-jr
06:06 <+Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=121241#121241
06:07 <+Lucifer_arma> because luke (cockeater) really and truly is a dumbshit
06:07 <@custang> luke-jr theytold me to kick ya :|
06:07 <@luke-jr> I know they did, I'm not blind
06:07 <@custang> ok GUYS I GTG BYE ALL
06:07 <+GodTodd> testy, luke?
06:07 <+Lucifer_arma> bye, and thanks
06:07 <@custang> XD
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06:07 <+Lucifer_arma> he just made my day with that :)
06:07 <@luke-jr> luci op yourself, don't have the noob do it for you
06:08 <@luke-jr> /msg chanserv op #armagetron
06:08 <+Lucifer_arma> ahh, but my post wouldn't have been nearly as funny
06:08 <+spidey> luci try /msg chanserv op #armagetron Lucifer_arma 
06:08 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
06:08 <@Lucifer_arma> hey, why did that work?
06:08 <@luke-jr> cuz you're on the access list?
06:08 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v [NP]Tangent] by Lucifer_arma
06:08 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v [Xpert]DarkStar] by Lucifer_arma
06:08 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v armabot] by Lucifer_arma
06:08 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v DrJoeTron] by Lucifer_arma
06:08 <@luke-jr> no harm in +v, but whatever
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v GodTodd] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v guru3] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v j0h4nn3s] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v luke-jr] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v luke-jr_work] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v mkzelda] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v Plazma] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v wrtlprnft] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 <@Lucifer_arma> guru3 said we shouldn't leave the channel like that for some reason
06:09 <@Lucifer_arma> he said leave it unmoderated with nobody having voice
06:09 <@Lucifer_arma> I suspect it's a personal preference, but he'll just come back and do it anyway
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v z-man-work] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
06:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
06:09 <luke-jr> shrug
06:09 <luke-jr> I'm going to bed\
06:10 <luke-jr> #anime is my preference on the matter
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> y'all did read my post in custang's newest thread, right?  :)
06:10 <spidey> yea
06:11  * GodTodd will just lurk and read so as to not offend almighty luke anymore.
06:11 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
06:11 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o GodTodd] by Lucifer_arma
06:12 <@Lucifer_arma> first, we take this channel.  Then we'll take the world!
06:12 <@GodTodd> haha
06:12 <spidey> now
06:12 <spidey> here is my proof
06:12 <spidey> luke is a irc noob
06:12 <spidey> is was wrong
06:12 <spidey> q <nickname>	Channel	Unreal	Owner. Marks the user as channel owner.
06:13 <spidey> http://webtoman.com/opera/panel/ircdmodes.html
06:13 <spidey> there
06:13 <spidey> you're prooved wrong
06:13 <@GodTodd> no...cuz that's an unverifiable source
06:13 <spidey> bs
06:13 <@GodTodd> which doesn't work for anything but religion
06:13 <spidey> he can't say that this time
06:13 <@Lucifer_arma> well, maybe he's an IRCist?
06:13 <@Lucifer_arma> did you consider that?
06:14 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o GodTodd] by Lucifer_arma
06:14 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
06:14 <spidey> you guys should join #anime and harrass the fuck out of luke
06:15 <GodTodd> heh...my night is made...i got to him this time :D
06:16 <GodTodd> he's just too damn fun to fuck with
06:16 <GodTodd> :/
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> Additions to these classes are 'channel owner' (mode 'q') created by Microsoft in its IRCX implementation (and later used by UnrealIrcd);
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
06:16 <GodTodd> it's like masturbation...you have to keep doing it even if it starts hurting.
06:16 <luke-jr> spidey: pwn
06:17 <spidey> so?
06:17 <luke-jr> 'night
06:17 <spidey> freenode is the onlyone without it
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> Most IRC networks feature a lot of extra modes not specified in any RFC document. This is a very simple feat for clients to adapt to since a list of all the valid user and channelmodes are sent to clients in the RPL_MYINFO reply upon logon. In addition, the list of channelmodes (and what type of arguments they accept), and the prefixes for class modes are specified in the protocol control reply (RPL_PROTOCTL or 005) sent
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> from most IRC servers when a client connects.
06:19 <spidey> i'ma go sleep
06:23 <GodTodd> is that allowed?
06:24  * Lucifer_arma gives spidey +s
06:25 <GodTodd> hrmm...i guess luke didn't like that i pointed out that he likes to be controlled
06:25 <GodTodd> who would have guessed? ;)
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> he must be stressed out at work or something
06:27 <GodTodd> heh
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> don't forget I managed to successfully bait him earlier today, and that was like the second time in a week
06:27 <GodTodd> that's true
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> so, something's eating him
06:27 <GodTodd> maybe he's seeing the truth :D
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> and unfortunately it's not me
06:28 <GodTodd> eat me ;)
06:28 <GodTodd> haha
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I told some kid that if he did something, I'd eat him.  I don't remember what the thing was, though.
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> I just remember his reaction.  Apparently kids are more afraid of being eaten than anything else.
06:29 <GodTodd> ahahah
06:29 <GodTodd> not when they're < a year
06:29 <GodTodd> my youngest likes when i eat parts of him
06:29 <GodTodd> like feet, hands, etc.
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> how many times have you eaten his hands?
06:33 <GodTodd> hundreds
06:33 <GodTodd> fuckers keep groing back
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:33 <GodTodd> growing*
06:33 <GodTodd> :)
06:34 <GodTodd> damn....shouldn't have pissed luke off....need him to pray that i get a 49 or better on my trig final
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> what do you expect to have happen?  God changes the answers on your test to get you a 49?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> does God help students cheat on their tests?
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> if so, will he help you cheat on the entrance exam to heaven?
06:35 <GodTodd> i hope so...cuz if i get a 95 i pull an A
06:36 <GodTodd> anywhere from 49-94 and i get a B
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> here's a problem for you to mull around :)
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> a thread whose purpose is to know about sockets reads from the socket and converts the information into a nEvent
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> nEvent is a base class.  nEvents are managed by nManager
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> nManager doesn't know about sockets and doesn't care, but the thread I mentioned is a member of nManager
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> so, the main program loop calls nManager.pump() so nManager can work his event list, you know, reading the events and dispatching them
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> so that gets information from the socket, right?
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> now, time to put information into the socket
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> the socket is SOCK_DGRAM, which means you have one socket for all clients connected, rather than a socket for each client (which is what you do with tcp)
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06:39 <Lucifer_arma> so, nManager knows only about nEvents
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, zmanuel (hi there!) , just the person to read this
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> so, nManager needs a way to take a game event and turn it into an nEvent, and the nEvent needs a way to know how to say where it's going
06:39 <zmanuel> nManager and nEvents?
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> because it could be a private message from one person to another in chat
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, let me repeat myself real quick :)
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> here's a problem for you to mull around :)
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> a thread whose purpose is to know about sockets reads from the socket and converts the information into a nEvent
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> nEvent is a base class.  nEvents are managed by nManager
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> nManager doesn't know about sockets and doesn't care, but the thread I mentioned is a member of nManager
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> so, the main program loop calls nManager.pump() so nManager can work his event list, you know, reading the events and dispatching them
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> so that gets information from the socket, right?
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> now, time to put information into the socket
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> the socket is SOCK_DGRAM, which means you have one socket for all clients connected, rather than a socket for each client (which is what you do with tcp)
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> ok, then what I said after you got here is next
06:42 <zmanuel> Hmm, the UDP read operation gives you the source address, the address the packet came from.
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> right, that's used to create the nEvent when you read
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> but when you're sending, I'm not seeing where that particular piece of information is what you need
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> nManager has a list of connections, nUsers
06:43 <zmanuel> and what is the problem?
06:43 <Lucifer_arma> nUser has the information that uniquely identifies a connection
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's a question of level of abstraction :)  I see several solution, trying to pick the best
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> so, if an nEvent is bound to a specific user, it needs a way to say "this is where I'm going"
06:44 <Lucifer_arma> I could give it a reference to an nUser and let the socket class sort it out
06:45 <zmanuel> sounds reasonable.
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> I could give it a method that takes an nUser and reads it to fill in its own fields just before putting it into the outbound queue
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> or, I could have nEvent and nUser not know anything about each other and copy the stuff from nManager manually
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> in that case, nManager is breaking the specified level of abstraction
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> so alternately, I could give the nEvent and the nUser(s) (there could be more than one, now that I think about it) to the socket class and it could do the hand copying
06:46 <Lucifer_arma> now the socket class knows about nUsers, which breaks its specified level of abstraction
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> never done actual socket programming before, and I don't want to dig myself into a hole this early.  :)  This piece feels important to me.
06:47 <zmanuel> The first sounds best. If your concept allows nEvents to know where they are going, it needs to hold nUser references.
06:47 <zmanuel> Obviously, one class needs to know about both sockets and users :) I'd pick the nManager. Managers are supposed to know stuff.
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> I gave nManager nEvents and the socket thread, so while it conceptually knows about sockets, it knows them through nEvent
06:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, that brings a subtly different problem, actually.  :)
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> I'm not certain that nEvents will ultimately derive from the base event class for the game
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> if they do, then nEvents are just going to get stuck into the event queue with everything else and nManager is only supposed to handle the pool of connections
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> you know, pinging them and stuff, handle logins, that sort of thing
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> and storing the incoming and outbound queues
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> I was actually thinking nManager's job is to do that stuff, and also translate nEvents into game events, since a network event isn't by definition a game event
06:50 <zmanuel> I think this is too early in the morning for me to ponder :) Can I come back to it when I'm z-man-work?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> a game event by definition is something that happens in the game
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> sure.  :)  I'm probably just too sleepy, it should all be obvious but Im really sleepy :/
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> I was also throwing it at GodTodd to think about, I'ma go grab a smoke :)
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07:26 <GodTodd> wb joe
07:35 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: luke-jr: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml#messages
07:35 <wrtlprnft> > Don't keep channel operator privileges. Displaying these privileges on your nick with a "+o" attracts participants who are interested in gaining them and using them actively; it also attracts the attention of participants who react negatively to authority. Have your nick added to the channel access list and op yourself only when needed.
07:35 <wrtlprnft> > Use channel operator privileges sparingly. Each time you use them you raise the channel temperature. Users will be pleased with you, angry at you, frustrated that you used them inappropriately, envious that you have control over the discussion. None of these reactions may be conscious on the part of other users, but all of them increase the channel temperature.
07:36 <wrtlprnft> probably one of guru3's reasons
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07:54 <GodTodd> damn microsoft
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07:57 <custang> hay guys
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08:01 <custang> Hey All
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08:34 <DrJoeTron> god damn it I miss everything :/
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation:_Mindcrime_II
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> I missed that, although I could argue that I don't feel like I missed much
08:38  * Lucifer_arma wonders if the sequel to Operation: Mindcrime should be more accurately called "Operation: Beating a Dead Horse"
08:57 <GodTodd> hrmm...if you get a D you still get class credit, right? even tho afaik no prerequisite is fulfilled with anything below a C
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32404
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> I think you have to get a C to get credit
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> I think I'm going to change my name
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> to Dave Fançell
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> er
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> to Dave Fançella
08:59 <GodTodd> heh
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> so maybe people will quit calling me "Fanchella"
09:00 <GodTodd> personally, i'd be *more* likely with the little thingy on the c ')
09:00 <GodTodd> ;)*
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> ah, but that little thing actually means to make an esse sound instead of a keh sound
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> so it's not really gratuitous
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> so, to be gratuitous, maybe I'll do:
09:01 <GodTodd> tho...let me know if it works...so people quit calling me Todd Mackey
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> Däve Fançella
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, I kinda like the way that looks
09:02  * Lucifer_arma has wanted for years to work in a King Diamond-style y or g to his name
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> this is like, just as good
09:02  * Lucifer_arma checks to see if he can put an umlaut on the v instead
09:02 <GodTodd> doesn't the umlaut make it a short vowel tho?
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> beats me
09:03 <GodTodd> heh
09:03 <Lucifer_arma> I don't have any idea what an umlaut means
09:03 <GodTodd> well...in german it kind of mixes an 'e' with the vowel
09:04 <GodTodd> like oe == ö
09:06 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2141
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2131  <--- wahahahaha.  I love her!
09:09 <GodTodd> Ţöđđ Мäçý
09:09 <GodTodd> now *that's* a rockin' name :)
09:10 <GodTodd> hahaha
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2119
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> there, evilution can never be disproven now!
09:14 <GodTodd> heh
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2109
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2099  <--- I'll take that advice, for sure
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2085
09:29 <GodTodd> hahaha
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09:59 <GodTodd> hmmm....is it possible to use toupper on a char string?
09:59 <GodTodd> er...char array rather
10:06 <wrtlprnft> if it's 0-terminated, sure
10:07 <wrtlprnft> and an umlaut is usually longer
10:07 <wrtlprnft> and no, v with two dots over it is not an umlaut
10:09 <GodTodd> well...the char array is a member of a struct
10:10 <wrtlprnft> that shouldn't matter…
10:10 <GodTodd> i didn't think so
10:10 <GodTodd> but i can't just do: toupper(subject.name)
10:10 <wrtlprnft> ?
10:10 <wrtlprnft> that should work
10:10 <GodTodd> it didn't :P
10:10 <GodTodd> heh
10:10 <wrtlprnft> at least, i think so. It should work in c++, anyways
10:11 <wrtlprnft> what's the error?
10:11 <GodTodd> can't convert parameter 1 from char[10] to int
10:11 <GodTodd> something along those lines
10:11 <wrtlprnft> int?
10:11 <GodTodd> yeah...that's what it said
10:12 <wrtlprnft> oh
10:12 <wrtlprnft> toupper takes a single char
10:12 <wrtlprnft> no string
10:12 <GodTodd> is there a way to convert strings to upper?
10:12 <wrtlprnft> well, iterate through it…
10:12 <GodTodd> or do you have to go char by char?
10:13 <wrtlprnft> for(c = subject.name; c != NULL; ++c) {
10:13 <wrtlprnft>     *c = toupper(*c);
10:13 <wrtlprnft> }
10:13 <GodTodd> yeah...just thought of that
10:13 <wrtlprnft> something like that
10:13 <GodTodd> seems to be the only way to do it 
10:13 <GodTodd> thanks :)
10:13 <wrtlprnft> yw
10:13 <z-man-work> Yawn, early morning math lecture is over.
10:14 <wrtlprnft> was it interesting?
10:14 <wrtlprnft> i guess not.
10:14 <z-man-work> Lucifer_arma: here's what I'm thinking. Obviously, one class needs to know about OS sockets and addresses, right? I'd make that the nSocket class.
10:14 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: it was, but it starts at 8:15
10:15 <wrtlprnft> ah, ok
10:15 <z-man-work> nSocket gives the other classes some abstraction of a network address, it doesn't need to be a real address, an ID would suffice, the main thing just is that...
10:15 <z-man-work> the address abstraction can identify a packet sender and send him a response packet back.
10:17 <z-man-work> Everybody else just uses that abstraction. Your nUser class stores one of them, and when nManager needs to contact a user, it tells nSocket to send a packet to whatever the nUser address abstraction thing says.
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10:18 <z-man-work> And about the events: it's just a matter of taste whether nEvent is derived from the main game event or not. You can just as well have a class derived from the main game events that holds a pointer to a nEvent.
10:18 <z-man-work> Hmm, does that mean I have to repeat everything? Is Lucifer_arma going to time out?
10:20 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2006-12-14.txt
10:21  * wrtlprnft goes back to school, just had a spare
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12:12 <custang> Hey guys
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12:46 <custang> hey guys anyone on???
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12:57 <z-man-work> What do these drive by chatters expect? A welcome party?
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13:13 <spidey> !
13:13  * spidey yawns
13:13 <spidey> i have
13:14 <spidey> 4 tests left ;/
13:37  * GodTodd has none left til january.
13:40 <spidey> heh
13:40 <spidey> i actually have 3 tests left
13:40 <spidey> i just have to get "tutored" on that math i failed
13:40  * GodTodd still has none left til january. :)
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15:19 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: that doesn't talk about +v
15:21 <spidey> yay!
15:22 <spidey> i r dun with my last physical science book ;x
15:22 <spidey> good thing, those bastards are big!
15:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6507 /private/z-man/clio/ (15 files): More size optimizations. Down from 1.6 to .6 Mb in the test executable.
15:24 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: in fact, #freenode-social has +v as norm
16:01 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6508 /private/z-man/clio/ (classinfo.hpp iclassinfo.cpp iclassinfo.hpp): Smaller savings by pruning unused virtual functions.
16:04 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6509 /private/z-man/clio/ (dataconversion_base.hpp objectwrapper.cpp objectwrapper.hpp): Got rid of objectwrapper template.
16:10 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: having a moderated channel and +v does make people feel uncomfortable, at least med
16:10 <wrtlprnft> it shows that there's someone you have to fear
16:10 <wrtlprnft> anyways, the guidelines on this channel are guru3_'s buisness, we're just here to take care of people who abuse the channel
16:11 <luke-jr> med?
16:11 <wrtlprnft> me
16:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6510 /private/z-man/clio/ (24 files): IObjectWrapper is no longer an interface -> renamed to ObjectWrapper. This also stops the IObject vs IoObject confusion.
16:20 <luke-jr> hmm, I guess you'd be pretty uncomfy in #anime then
16:20 <wrtlprnft> i'd fell that anyways
16:21 <wrtlprnft> *feel
16:21 <wrtlprnft> i'd have no reason to join either
16:21 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6511 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files): Gaa, SF svn does not allow file moves.
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17:49 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6512 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files): Another 25 kb down.
18:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6513 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files): Yay! 800 bytes less!
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18:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6514 /private/z-man/clio/ (functioninfo.cpp functioninfo.hpp iclassinfo.hpp): 4.6 kb this time.
18:24 <wrtlprnft> #g 25000 + 800 + 4600
18:24 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 25,000 + 800 + 4,600 = 30,400
18:26 <z-man-work> Yeah, quite a bunch. I guess I hit a wall there, there are no more big things to optimize
18:26 <wrtlprnft> that's out of how much?
18:26 <z-man-work> except if I'd do evil reinterpret_cast things on member function pointers, that may save a bunch
18:27 <z-man-work> From originally 1.6M, I'm down to .53M
18:27 <wrtlprnft> nice :)
18:28 <z-man-work> The big chunks were the easy parts
18:28 <z-man-work> well, not nice, it's still too big, considering that's only wrapping 50 functions or so
18:28 <wrtlprnft> would those reinterpret_cast things be centralized?
18:28 <z-man-work> yeah, but they rely on specific object layout
18:29 <wrtlprnft> your decision :)
18:29 <z-man-work> I think the VTable pointer needs to sit at the beginning of the class
18:29 <z-man-work> It's certainly not legal :)
18:29 <wrtlprnft> talk about vc6 support
18:29 <z-man-work> I'm going to make a test and see what happens
18:29 <z-man-work> vc6 should be fine as well
18:30 <z-man-work> well, except that the rest of our project is pretty much dead broken for vc6 :)
18:30 <wrtlprnft> heh
18:30 <wrtlprnft> my fault.
18:30 <z-man-work> and except for the fact that it can't handle templates even half as good as clio requires.
18:30 <z-man-work> but the reinterpret_cast trick would work :)
18:31 <wrtlprnft> any solution with #ifdefs so you can hide it from non-gcc?
18:33 <z-man-work> sure.
18:33 <wrtlprnft> though, if the vtable pointer doesn't sit at the beginning of the class, how would you find it if you don't know the class type?
18:34 <z-man-work> Not at all :)
18:34  * wrtlprnft doesn't know enough about gcc's internal handling, though
18:34 <z-man-work> Oh, you mean how the compiler finds it itself?
18:34 <z-man-work> It knows the offset to the class beginning
18:34 <z-man-work> in principle, the VTable pointer can sit anywhere, like a regular data member
18:34  * z-man-work is off for home, already half an hour late, whoops
18:35 <wrtlprnft> cya
18:42 -!- Lucifer_arma_ is now known as Lucifer_arma
18:50  * Lucifer_arma has one test--today
19:08  * wrtlprnft has one test—tomorrow
19:14  * luke-jr|work has no test
19:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
19:18 <Lucifer_arma> z-man-work: this is what I have for you.  "<z-man-work> And about the events: it's just a matter of taste whether nEvent is derive [...]"
20:17 <luke-jr|work> this is ridiculous??
20:17 <luke-jr|work> the new server I'm renting supports Gentoo, but it's ancient, and a non-regular profile??
20:26 <wrtlprnft> umm, if they have a rescue system you can use that to install a real gentoo?
20:32 <luke-jr|work> ...?
20:32 <luke-jr|work> it is a real Gentoo
20:32 <luke-jr|work> just default-linux/x86/no-nptl
20:32 <luke-jr|work> and last sync'd earlier this year
20:32 <luke-jr|work> I'm in the middle of the -e world
20:32 <luke-jr|work> which is more or less reinstalling it :p
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20:57  * spidey yawns
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21:15 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
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21:42 <spidey> well
21:42 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.net/
21:42 <spidey> i got tired of messing with it last night so i used something simple >.>
21:45 <luke-jr|work> it's invalid
21:45 <luke-jr|work> :p
21:46 <luke-jr|work> no such thing as _height
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21:50 <spidey> ...
21:51 <wrtlprnft> that's an ie hack
21:51 <wrtlprnft> but ugly, what's wrong with conditional comments?
21:52 <wrtlprnft> anyways, it's waay to high in my browser
21:52  * luke-jr|work notes spidey used pixels
21:52 <spidey> it's supposed to be
21:52 <wrtlprnft> sucks
21:53 <spidey> heh
21:53 <wrtlprnft> i won't read the entire page if it's twice as high as my screen
21:53 <luke-jr|work> too high?
21:53 <wrtlprnft> or what's left of it if you substract my tabs
21:53 <luke-jr|work> why would you have a fullscreen browser? :p
21:53 <luke-jr|work> I generally keep mine around 640x480 or 800x600
21:54 <luke-jr|work> so I can fit 10 or so on my screen at once, in theory
21:54 <DrJoeTr0n> awww guru3 why didnt you draw a picture of yourself being cool?
21:54 <spidey> ...
21:54 <DrJoeTr0n> or are you just in a constant state of coolness :D
21:54 <spidey> why would you want 10 or so?
21:54 <spidey> that's what tabs are for
21:54 <spidey> noob
21:54 <luke-jr|work> can't see all tabs at once
21:54 <luke-jr|work> noob
21:55 <spidey> ...
21:55 <luke-jr|work> besides, they all get 10 tabs each
21:55 <spidey> retarded
21:55 <spidey> waste of resources to
21:55 <wrtlprnft> bah
21:55 <luke-jr|work> nah, use of resources :)
21:55 <luke-jr|work> more often tho, I just have 2 visible at a time :p
21:55 <spidey> still retarded
21:55 <luke-jr|work> no
21:56 <luke-jr|work> a fullscreen browser window would be retarded
21:56 <luke-jr|work> then the middle would have the divider between monitors going thru it
21:56 <spidey> not really
21:56 <luke-jr|work> well, left of centre anyhow
21:56 <spidey> well
21:56 <spidey> you're running dual screens
21:56 <spidey> and they're difference sizes
21:56 <spidey> so anything looks off center to you anyways
21:57 <luke-jr|work> nah
21:57 <luke-jr|work> I matched their PPI
21:57 <luke-jr|work> that's why the left one is 1224x909
21:58 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/normalopera.png
21:58 <wrtlprnft> that's how mine usually looks
21:58 <wrtlprnft> the sidebar is there sometimes, sometimes not
21:59 <spidey> wow
21:59 <luke-jr|work> eww
21:59 <luke-jr|work> are all your browser windows like that?
21:59 <wrtlprnft> that's the only one :P
22:00 <luke-jr|work> ...
22:00 <luke-jr|work> you keep your browser in a single virtual desktop?
22:00 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:00 <luke-jr|work> O.o
22:01 <wrtlprnft> after all it has its own window management
22:01 <wrtlprnft> note that it sometimes gets fuller if i'm iterating through wikipedia articles
22:02 <wrtlprnft> http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=202/202.css
22:02 <wrtlprnft> nice
22:02 <luke-jr|work> it doesn't have its own virtual desktop management ;p
22:03 <wrtlprnft> doesn't need to
22:03 <wrtlprnft> it does have its own session management
22:04 <wrtlprnft> so if i take my laptop somewhere and don't want to be disturbed by the normal crap i just save the session and start a new one
22:04 <wrtlprnft> then i can continue where i left when i get back home
22:04 <luke-jr|work> in other words, you don't use VDs much
22:04 <wrtlprnft> i do
22:05 <wrtlprnft> arma development
22:05 <wrtlprnft> it's one or two seperate desktops with lots of gVim windows each
22:05 <wrtlprnft> and each one has a konsole attached to the same screen
22:06 <wrtlprnft> then, everytime i use gimp i create a new one (have to, you can't really use GIMP w/o virtual desktops)
22:07 <luke-jr|work> heh
22:07 <luke-jr|work> I use at least 5 on a regular basis
22:07 <luke-jr|work> IM and IRC share one
22:07 <luke-jr|work> Email has its own
22:08 <luke-jr|work> Arma has one, as does Anime/Movies/etc
22:08 <luke-jr|work> Lightfoot/Levopede/etc have one
22:10 <luke-jr|work> etc
22:16 <wrtlprnft> everything you can put into a console is in my screen anyways :)
22:16 <luke-jr|work> ?
22:17 <wrtlprnft> like irc
22:17 <wrtlprnft> or connections to other servers (in which i start a screen, too)
22:18 <wrtlprnft> those screens on other machines are color-coded and have another control key (^S instead of ^A) btw
22:20 <wrtlprnft> > Our favorite customer Santa has a deadline coming up so we are approaching release of Opera 9.10. ← does that mean opera 9.10 will be released within 10 days?
22:23 <luke-jr|work> probably
22:24 <wrtlprnft> :)
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1444  <-- haha, that's spidey
22:29 <spidey> http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/12/iraqi-kids-learn-english.html
22:29 <spidey> that's me
22:29 <spidey> teaching luci english
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #night
22:34 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1488
22:39 <luke-jr|work> no
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22:40 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1507 <--- why spidey (hi there!) will never get married
22:42 <spidey> lol
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22:48 <Vanhayes> #ping
22:48 <armabot> pong
22:48 <Vanhayes> #pong
22:48 <armabot> ping
22:48 <Vanhayes> #pung
22:48 <Vanhayes> meh
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22:55 <Legit> luke u here?
22:55 <luke-jr|work> \yeah
22:55 <luke-jr|work> 0.2.8 or 0.3? :p
22:55 <Legit> armalukechat ;)
22:55 <luke-jr|work> I'm htere
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22:56 <DrJoeTr0n> Your_mom_arma tanked locked the mspaint thread :/
22:57 <DrJoeTr0n> tank*
22:57 <DrJoeTr0n> haha
22:58 <luke-jr|work> KolourPaint pwns MSPaint
22:58 <DrJoeTr0n> MSPaint is the best program ever
22:58 <DrJoeTr0n> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=11621 how else could you get fly pics like mine?
23:00 <luke-jr|work> KolourPaint
23:00 <DrJoeTr0n> not possible
23:00 <luke-jr|work> why not?
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23:01 <luke-jr|work> http://kolourpaint.sourceforge.net/
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> luke (cockeater) actually speaks truth for once
23:04 <Your_mom_arma> haha gj joe, everyone who participated
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1609
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, the thread got locked before I drew my picture
23:05 <Your_mom_arma> luke, looks exactly like mspaint
23:05 <luke-jr|work> except it's better :p
23:06 <Your_mom_arma> thats a matter of opinion
23:06 <luke-jr|work> nah, it's a matter of features
23:06 <luke-jr|work> can MS Paint deal w/ transparency?
23:06 <Your_mom_arma> how long does it take to install?
23:07 <Your_mom_arma> exactly
23:07 <luke-jr|work> ?
23:07 <luke-jr|work> depends on the OS, obviously
23:07 <luke-jr|work> I'm sure some come w/ it preinstalled
23:07 <Lucifer_arma> mine came with it
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> chances are it doesn't run in windows, so you're looking at 3-12 hours to download the iso images, then about half an hour to install the os
23:08 <Lucifer_arma> then, if it didn't isntall with the os, another minute to install it from your package manager
23:08 <Your_mom_arma> say i want a 1x1 blue pixel .jpg should i use mspaint or that? In lucis case its better, in mine it isnt
23:09 <Your_mom_arma> luke doesnt understand that in can be better in some cases and not others
23:09 <luke-jr|work> it's still better, because Kolourpaint is free :)
23:10 <Your_mom_arma> >luke mom thats dumb reformat and install linux its wai better
23:10 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: As with all of KDE4, 4.0 should run in Windoze :p
23:10 <Your_mom_arma> look we all love linux but not all of us as much as others
23:11 <luke-jr|work> Your_mom_arma: KolourPaint has nothing to do with Linux foo
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> I personally try not to recommend "technology demonstrations" to people when they want productie software they can use right now
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1626
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> MSPaint is only better if you're willing to SELL YOUR SOUL to the EVIL JESUS-LOVING MICROSOFT!
23:12 <Your_mom_arma> haha
23:12 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, that last comic I linked pretty much sums up election year politics, in case anybody's curious (and most have probably quit clicking the sinfest links I've been spamming with)
23:12 <Your_mom_arma> luke doesnt understand rating things relativly to a situation
23:14 <Lucifer_arma> he only deals in absolutes.  Which would normally make him a sith lord, but I happen to like the sith.
23:15 <Your_mom_arma> those 12 screwdrivers you have are bad go to the store and get this one its free and it does the exact same thing
23:15 <Lucifer_arma> I'm that little kid that loves the devil in sinfest
23:15 <Your_mom_arma> haha luci
23:15 <luke-jr|work> luci admits to being a little kid?
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23:15 <Lucifer_arma> have I ever even pretended to be mature and grown-up?
23:16 <luke-jr|work> not sure
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, I haven't, at least, not that I can remember
23:16 <ghableska> hi
23:16  * Your_mom_arma notes that some of the sinfest you linked to was good but most of his comics arn't funny, hes inconsistent
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> hi ghableska (hi there!) 
23:16 <luke-jr|work> Your_mom_arma: MSPaint isn't free
23:16 <Your_mom_arma> hey ghab
23:16 <Your_mom_arma> i didnt say it was, i was saying i already have it
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, there are a lot of sinfest strips that suck, that's true.  Like all the ones with the cat and dog.
23:16 <ghableska> hu Lucifer_arma, mom
23:16 <Lucifer_arma> but it's a weekly strip, and weekly strips tend to suck more often than rule
23:17 <Your_mom_arma> luke reread my comparison
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> the only comic I've read that was consistently funny was one that was also infrequently updated.  :(  He only updated when he felt funny and made a strip.
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> So, take it as you want.  You can have it every week, or you can have it always funny, but not both.
23:18 <luke-jr|work> Your_mom_arma: but KolourPaint is Free!
23:18 <luke-jr|work> I mean
23:18 <Your_mom_arma> should i compare it again?
23:18 <luke-jr|work> Your_mom_arma: but KolourPaint is Free??
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> does kolorpaint run in windows?  I mean, a current stable version, not the "technology demonstration" you're trying to push on us
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1644  <--- heh, this reads like luke (cockeater)'s proof of the bible
23:21 <Your_mom_arma> luke says:those 12(working) screwdrivers[mspaint] you have are bad go to the store and get this one[kpaint] its *free* and it does the exact same thing
23:23 <Your_mom_arma> luke's think headed
23:23 <Your_mom_arma> thick even
23:23 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: who cares? and I haven't made an attempt to prove the bible here
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, it's worth it if you get the Free with a capital F
23:24 <Your_mom_arma> haha
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> but really, mspaint is a non-issue.  You get it with windows, right?  So what does it matter?  Changing it out for kolorpaint only matters if you change out the windows part of the system
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, it's a non-issue
23:25 <luke-jr|work> but KolourPaint pwns MSPaint??
23:25 <Your_mom_arma> im not saying its a bad program just that its more hassle then its worth, especially for me. no windows version btw
23:26 <luke-jr|work> everything pwns Windoze??
23:26 <Your_mom_arma> is it coming?
23:26 <Your_mom_arma> are you gonna say it?
23:26 <Your_mom_arma> i already said it for you, because i saw this coming
23:26 <Your_mom_arma> pgup luke
23:26 <luke-jr|work> Windoze sux??
23:27 <Your_mom_arma> theres no mac version either
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> spell-checker broke, again?
23:27 <luke-jr|work> whether you use KolourPaint or not, you should install another OS instead??
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23:27 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, run OS/2
23:27 <RickyRoss> hi
23:27 <luke-jr|work> Your_mom_arma: Mac shouldn't have a problem w/ X apps
23:27 <RickyRoss> luke?
23:27 <RickyRoss> i'm on mac :)
23:27 <luke-jr|work> RickyRoss: hi #armalukechat
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> run BeOS
23:27 <RickyRoss> k
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> run AmigaOS
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> because *anything* is better than Windows
23:28 <ghableska> heh
23:28 <luke-jr|work> AmigaOS is pretty decent
23:28 <luke-jr|work> but it's proprietary
23:28 <luke-jr|work> >:O
23:28 <luke-jr|work> Workbench sure beats Program Manager
23:28 <Your_mom_arma> luke your as sharp as a river rock
23:29 <RickyRoss> i'm on leopard
23:29 <RickyRoss> it owns you little windoze
23:29 <RickyRoss> and linux newbs
23:30 <luke-jr|work> Gentoo pwns Leopard :)
23:30 <luke-jr|work> as do most Linux-based OS
23:30 <Your_mom_arma> im staying out of this, as far as im conscerned all the os's suck
23:30 <luke-jr|work> they do
23:31 <luke-jr|work> but Gentoo sucks least
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo sucks more than windows
23:31 <luke-jr|work> nope
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> I wasted more time babysitting my gentoo box than I ever did babysitting windows
23:31 <RickyRoss> gentoo is ... weird
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> and their fan club is just a bunch of rabid fanatics
23:31 <Lucifer_arma> which are morally and intellectually equivalent to the microsoft drones you get with windows
23:32 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: but you got more than you could ever get from Windows in return
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> errr, no
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> I got a much less functional system than even win95 out of the box
23:32 <luke-jr|work> out of the box, you had no effort put into it
23:32 <Lucifer_arma> source packages with so many patches that the idea of getting the source for the program ws pretty unbelievable
23:32 <RickyRoss> bye luke
23:32 <RickyRoss> it wrks
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> indeed.  I spent half an hour installing Mandriva and got something that actually works
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> and no damn emerge snobs telling me "emerge is better because rpms won't install, but emerge will break everything!"
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait, I still have those damn emerge snobs
23:33 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should leave this channel
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23:34 <Lucifer_arma> and since installing it, I've spent 0 minutes maintaining my system, it hasn't broken when I've installed a package I wanted to fool with
23:35 <spidey> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=26
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> and even installing packages takes just a few minutes at most, never waiting all night to try the newest kolorpaint because all of KDE had to be updated to install it
23:35 <spidey> luci = pwned
23:35 <Lucifer_arma> haha.  I love the God finger puppets in that strip
23:35 <spidey> lol
23:36 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: you enjoy FUD?
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> even if I hd to update all of KDE, it still wouldn't take all night to update
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> what fud are yout alking about?  This is real, hard experience
23:36 <Lucifer_arma> I speak from experience, boy!
23:37 <luke-jr|work> you want to upgrade kolourpaint, emerge kolourpaint, not all kde
23:37 <luke-jr|work> installing apps rarely if ever breaks, it's upgrading the system that's the problem
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's not what happened, now is it?  what part of "experience" did you not get?
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> really?  Then why did I install a kid game package and break my webserver?
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> this was last week, on my server, which is still running gentoo
23:37 <luke-jr|work> no clue
23:37 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft pointed out the wiki was broken
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> so I had to reemerge php, to link against the updated mysql
23:38 <luke-jr|work> probably unrelated, with the details you gave me
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> mysql was updated when I installed that kid game package
23:38 <luke-jr|work> see, you updated mysql
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> no, I didn't update mysql
23:38 <luke-jr|work> installing a kid game package shouldn't do that
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> mysql was updated as a dependency to something else I was installing
23:38 <luke-jr|work> did you run revdep-rebuild?
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> you're right, it shouldn't, but it did
23:38 <Lucifer_arma> no, I didn't
23:39 <luke-jr|work> so we're back to user error
23:39 <Lucifer_arma> no, we're at badly designed system
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23:39 <Lucifer_arma> why should I have to run a special script after I install a program?  My package manager should do it!
23:39 <luke-jr|work> that too, but if you use such a system, you should learn how
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23:39 <Lucifer_arma> what, spending 5 hours a week fixing shit didn't teach me how to run it?
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> look, I dont' want an OS I have to take 20 credit hours at the junior college to learn how to run
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> period
23:40 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: at least you had the *option* to break ABI
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> what option?  I don't recall ever being asked "do you want to install this package?  It might break your other programs"
23:40 <luke-jr|work> it was assumed, you didn't tell it to ask you
23:40 <Lucifer_arma> I get those prompts in Mandriva
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> right, so whoever made the system "assume" made an ass out of someone
23:41 <Lucifer_arma> and check this out.  If I update a package in Mandriva that other packages depend on, the others get updated automatically
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> why can't gentoo do that?  So much for high tech cutting edge.
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23:42 <luke-jr|work> because most people don't want that unless it's absolutely necessary
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23:42 <Lucifer_arma> no, instead every command you ever issue in gentoo has a disclaimer "this might break your system"
23:42 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
23:42 <Lucifer_arma> and the only way you can figure out what actually works, because nobody in the gentoo world has the balls to say it to you, is to do it yourself
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> well, who the fuck has time for that?  I sure int he hell don't
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> what's the point of having documentation if the docs themselves wuss out and fail to guide you in a productive direction?
23:43 <Lucifer_arma> every single gentoo tutorial takes you far enough to hae something that almost works, and then leaves you hanging to figure out the rest
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> and since they've gone out of their way to ensure that no package's original documentation can be applied to the system, you're pretty well fucked
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> gentoo irc?  like talking to a brick wall
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> if you get a response, it's always predicated with "but that might break your system"
23:44 <Lucifer_arma> well, how the fuck am I supposed to figure it out without breaking my system?  Why couldn't they build something that doesn't actually break every time you wipe your ass?
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> the idea that gentoo is superior to anything is derived from the massive inferiority complexes the gentoo developers and most of their users suffer from
23:45 <Lucifer_arma> out here in the real world, we want something that works.  Gentoo isn't it, so we use other things.
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23:46 <Lucifer_arma> and, of course, when you point any of this stuff out, it's always summed up as "user error"
23:46 <Lucifer_arma> as we've seen here
23:47 <custang> HEY :)
23:47 <Lucifer_arma> hey
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23:49 <custang> im going to play armagetron bye guys
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23:51 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:51 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 55.4°F (3:54 PM CST on December 14, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa. 
23:52 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6178659.stm <-- wow.
23:53 <Legit> luke armachat
23:54 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6515 /private/z-man/clio/objectwrapper.cpp: Fixed memory leak caused by uninitialized variable.
23:54 <ghableska> luke-jr: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6178055.stm
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23:56 <luke-jr|work> ghableska: what?
23:56 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6516 /private/z-man/clio/function_single.hpp: Fixed wrong pointer when creating an object with virtual destructor in a custom constructor.

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00:08 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has left #Armagetron []
00:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6517 /private/z-man/clio/function_single.hpp: Argh, don't look at the last revision.
00:09  * Lucifer_arma looks at the last revision
00:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6518 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/src/ (Makefile.am tools/tConfiguration_wrap.cpp): Completed tConfiguration loading wrapping.
00:10 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, after reemerging php I had to reemerge eaccelerator
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00:15 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: 
00:15 <spidey> this comic has over 1500 pages????!!!!!????1111oneoneone!!!one1
00:15 <Lucifer_arma> it's been around for awhile :)
00:16 <spidey> i'm only on page 124
00:16 <spidey> :(
00:17 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.cafepress.com/sinfest/143366
00:20 <spidey> i refuse
00:21 <spidey> anyone wanna play S3d? ;x
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00:28 <Seyahnav> #ping
00:28 <armabot> pong
00:32 <Your_mom_arma> #pong
00:32 <armabot> ping
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00:35 <spidey> heh
00:35 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, remembre that math test i failed, 
00:35 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
00:35 <spidey> i was able to take the grade and still pass
00:36 <spidey> thing is, i only have two math tests this semester
00:36 <spidey> :D
00:36 <spidey> good thing i made a 100 on my first >.>
00:36 <spidey> i'ma have algerbra when i get to 10th grade
00:36 <spidey> ;/
00:37 <Your_mom_arma> you havnt had algebra yet?
00:37 <spidey> should be by the end of janurary
00:37 <spidey> no, i'm still in 9th grade
00:37 <Lucifer_arma> he's going to take algerbra, not algebra
00:38 <Your_mom_arma> ohhh
00:38 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
00:38 <spidey> ??
00:38 <spidey> #check algerbra
00:38 -!- custang [n=caadb73a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
00:38 <armabot> spidey: algebra
00:38 <spidey> w/e
00:38 <Your_mom_arma> i had algebra in like the 7th grade
00:38 <custang> same
00:38 <Your_mom_arma> if not before then
00:39 <spidey> ...
00:39 -!- wejp_ [n=j@i577B8943.versanet.de] has joined #armagetron
00:39 <spidey> 8th grade is prealgebra
00:39 <spidey> 9th grade is a review
00:40 <spidey> 10th grade is algebra
00:40 <Your_mom_arma> so your saying that thats true wherever you go
00:40 <custang> i like algebra its easy
00:40 <spidey> did i say that?
00:40 <spidey> noooo
00:40 <Your_mom_arma> #quote get 23
00:40 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
00:41 <Your_mom_arma> #quote get 21
00:41 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
00:41 <Your_mom_arma> #quote get 22
00:41 <armabot> Your_mom_arma: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
00:41 <Your_mom_arma> meh
00:41 <custang> lol
00:41 <Your_mom_arma> cant find the one im looking for
00:41 <custang> #quote get 19
00:41 <armabot> custang: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> I flunked algebra twice
00:42 <custang> lol
00:42 <custang> algebra is easy
00:42 <custang> bye
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00:42 <spidey> #quote get 24
00:42 <armabot> spidey: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
00:42 <spidey> wow
00:43 <Your_mom_arma> who the hell is that
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> custang?
00:43 <Your_mom_arma> yeah
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> just another freeloader
00:43 <spidey> who
00:43 <spidey> kicked luke for us
00:43 <luke-jr|work> lol
00:43 <Your_mom_arma> can we ban the java irc clients
00:43 <spidey> who needs them anyways
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00:44 <spidey> must be raining at hayes's ;x
00:44 -!- Vanhayes [n=lamb--ch@stjhnbsu83w-156034157078.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
00:45 <Seyahnav> no
00:45 <Seyahnav> just bad connection
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00:45 <spidey> ...
00:51 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint John
00:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM AST; Tonight - Clearing early this evening. Fog patches. Low plus 1.; Friday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Showers beginning in the afternoon. Fog patches. Wind becoming south 20 km/h in the morning. High 9. Friday night..showers ending overnight (1 more message)
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01:02 <spidey> haha
01:02 <spidey> IE hax!
01:02 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.net
01:08 <Vanhayes> Ie sucks
01:08 <spidey> alot of people still use it
01:08 -!- Legit [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC (EOF)"]
01:09 <spidey> so if i want to host people who use IE
01:09 <spidey> my layout has to work in IE, so they can navigate through the site
01:12 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/manta/fortress/horseshoe-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by manta
01:13 <Vanhayes> #night
01:13 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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01:50 <DrJoeTron> we all know ie sucks
01:50 <DrJoeTron> but most of the world uses ie
01:50 <DrJoeTron> and those people have money
01:50 <DrJoeTron> most people as in, (i'm not computer savvy) america
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02:18 <DrJoeTron> ghableska get CS:S yet? :D
02:18 <ghableska> no, not yet
02:18 <DrJoeTron> :/ how about now?
02:18 <ghableska> no
02:18 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:18 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 53.6°F (6:54 PM CST on December 14, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa. 
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02:33 <spidey> #time
02:33 <armabot> spidey: 02:36 AM, December 15, 2006
02:33 <ghableska> lol
02:34 <DrJoeTron> http://www.lucid-tv.com/027.html
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02:47 <luke-jr> #tell your_mom_arma http://olrl.org/doctrine/eens2.shtml
02:49 <luke-jr> dumb bot?
02:50 <DrJoeTron> mom left
02:51 <spidey> #later tell Your_mom_arma <luke-jr> #tell your_mom_arma http://olrl.org/doctrine/eens2.shtml
02:51 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.
02:53 <GodTodd> user erroe
02:53 <GodTodd> error*
02:54 <spidey> lol
02:55 <GodTodd> i would elaborate but i wouldn't want to be seen as abusive
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03:09 <luke-jr> [0] Warning in REAL sn_SendPlanned1() in ../../../src/armagetronad-0.3.0.svn/src/network/nNetwork.cpp:2861 :
03:09 <luke-jr>         [0] Timer hickup!
03:09 <luke-jr> what's that mean? O.o
03:09 <spidey> it means you need to scare the shit out of it
03:10 <spidey> so its hickups go away
03:10 <spidey> dunno
03:10 <luke-jr> lol
03:10 <spidey> i used to get them on my server
03:10 <spidey> i think it's a cpu thing
03:10 <luke-jr> O.o
03:10 <spidey> i know it lagged like all hell when it did that
03:11 <luke-jr> :\
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> heh, my daughter gets mad at me whenever she has the hiccups
03:13 <ghableska> o.0
03:13 <spidey> lol
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> she walks over and says "hic", and I say "BLAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWHAAAAAAAAAAAAACKK!" and tickle her
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> then we argue over whether or not I should have scared her.  She says "You shouldn't have scared me!" and I say "You dn't have the hiccups anymore!"
03:15 <pinter> scaring me never worked to get rid of my hiccups
03:15 <Lucifer_arma> that's because you've never been my daughter
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> early in my marriage, my wife came up to me with the hiccups
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> I told her "the test came back, apparently I'm HIV positive"
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> then after she stared at me in shock for a few minutes, I said "Oh good, your hiccups went away."
03:16 <Lucifer_arma> she was *so* mad
03:18 <pinter> a few minutes?
03:18 <luke-jr> ROFL
03:18 <pinter> how long did you let he believe you had HIV?
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> a few minutes
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> I had to confirm the hiccups were gone
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> that wouldn't work now, but we've since found a much better cure.  sex!
03:19 <Lucifer_arma> obviously I can't do that cure for my daughter
03:20 <luke-jr> phew. I wasn't sure, knowing you
03:21 <luke-jr> ok
03:21 <luke-jr> sorry
03:21 <luke-jr> that wasn't funny
03:22 <Lucifer_arma> no.  she's about to turn 8.  Maybe in 10 years that would be funny, but definitely not now.
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> wow
03:25 <Lucifer_arma> don't copy the first half of one problem, and the second half of another, and expect your answer to match the book's answer
03:26 <luke-jr> http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/12/13/342
03:26 <luke-jr> finally
03:27 <spidey> um
03:27 <spidey> holding my breath always made my hiccups go away
03:27 <luke-jr> I'm sure being told you have HIV would do it too
03:27 <spidey> not really
03:27 <spidey> we all die sometime...
03:28 <luke-jr> yeah, but you get less time to learn the truth if you die sooner
03:28 <luke-jr> BTW, sorry, haven't found a good sized envelope yet to mail your proof in
03:28 <spidey> the truth believing in god was a waste of my time?
03:28 <luke-jr> will look more tonight
03:28 <spidey> if you send me some retarded bullshit prank type thing
03:29 <spidey> i hope the admin contact on my domain is wrong
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> just don't sniff whatever he sends
03:31 <Lucifer_arma> you know how religious extremists are
03:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: stfu
03:32 <luke-jr> :p
03:34 <spidey> LOL
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> dude, my logic is completelly irrefutable
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> it's even documented in the bible that religious extremists do really nasty things to people
03:35 <ghableska> haha
03:36 <spidey> like
03:43 <DrJoeTron> it's been documented in the bible that god does really nasty things to people too.
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> yep.  The devil offers you power and god offers destruction, calls it salvation
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> what could be more empowering than freedom and independence?
03:46 <Lucifer_arma> so, freedom or guilt?  that's the choice
03:47 <DrJoeTron> and such blasphemous things as make love, not war
03:47 <DrJoeTron> it should be make war, not love :/
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03:49 <RickyRoss> luke
03:49 <RickyRoss> wtf
03:49 <RickyRoss> the server died
03:49 <RickyRoss> and my ping is like 120 in a american server, what is this bs
03:49 <RickyRoss> is this on a comcast cable or a 100 mbit t3
03:50 <RickyRoss> what a joke
03:50 <ghableska> :)
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03:50 <Lucifer_arma> search the chatlogs for "perceived lack of quality"
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03:58 <Legit> luke?
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> luke (cockeater)-jr: ping
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> er
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> try typing his name out completely
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> I can't, I have this thing that does a substitution whenever it sees "luke (cockeater)"
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> see?
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> ok, removed it
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: ping
04:02 <Legit> anyone kno why a server form luke shows up like 4 times on the master lsit and says u cant connect to server when u try to go on it
04:03 <luke-jr> O.o
04:03  * luke-jr connected to it?
04:03 <Legit> im n armalukechat
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04:04 <Durka> LUKE!!!!! HOW COME I SEE 10 OF THE SAME SERVERO N THEH MASTER LIST???????????
04:04 <luke-jr> HOW SHOULD I KNOW I DONT RUN THE MASTER LIST????????
04:04 <Durka> its ur server...
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> luke, do ps -A | grep "arma" on your server
04:05 <spidey> lol
04:05 <luke-jr> oh
04:05 <luke-jr> haha
04:05 <Durka> check out my screenshot :)
04:05 <Durka> http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9036/screenshot95fd5.png
04:05  * Lucifer_arma whacks luke-jr (hi there!) with the customer service clue bat
04:06  * luke-jr ponders doing that on purpose
04:06 <luke-jr> :p
04:06 <Durka> actually 11 servers cuz regular fortress is urs right?
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> arma only goes up to 10 ports by default, so after the 10th one was taken, it should've stopped
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> you know, when luke's script went bonkers
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> this would also explain both the inability of a person to connect and the 120 ping for someone who connected
04:08 <Lucifer_arma> CPU was probably maxed out trying to start all these arma processes
04:09 <Lucifer_arma> but I suppose the scientific method is too much to apply to such a situation, no truth comes from science
04:10 <Durka> lol
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04:11 <RickyRoss> i heard your script when "bonkers" according to lucifer
04:11 <RickyRoss> luke..?
04:11 <Lucifer_arma> type his full name, but he's off putting out the fire right now
04:11 <RickyRoss> k
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> he should really set his highlighter to look for "luke" by itself sometime.  Mine's set to find luci, so you don't have to type *my* whole name.  :)
04:12 <RickyRoss> luci
04:12 <RickyRoss> lolololol
04:12 <Legit> hi luke!
04:12 <RickyRoss> luke-jr
04:12 <Lucifer_arma> people have been calling me luci around here since I first started playing :)
04:12 <RickyRoss> lol
04:12 <RickyRoss> ikno
04:13 <Durka> hi luc
04:13 <Durka> without the eye
04:13 <Durka> bbl food
04:13  * Durka is eating duck for dinner
04:13 <Legit> no!
04:13 <Durka> super duck ;)
04:13 <Lucifer_arma> mmmmmmmm
04:13 <Legit> super ducks r too nice
04:13 <Legit> dotn touch them nor play duck hunt
04:13 <RickyRoss> o
04:14 <RickyRoss> k
04:14 <luke-jr> ok
04:14 <luke-jr> this is where
04:14 <luke-jr> I stab Gentoo
04:14 <Legit> k stab him
04:14 <RickyRoss> oooloolol
04:15 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:15  * Lucifer_arma refers to his earlier rant about gentoo
04:15  * luke-jr notes his past servers ran Debian
04:15  * RickyRoss punctures gentoo's light cycle tires
04:15 <RickyRoss> pwnage
04:15 <RickyRoss> y dont u run debian then
04:16 <RickyRoss> like get one that does debian
04:16 <luke-jr> was trying Gentoo on the new one
04:16 <RickyRoss> how much did the computer rent cost
04:16 <RickyRoss> around 25 bucks?
04:17 <RickyRoss> telle the truth :P
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04:17 <RickyRoss> speak english?
04:17 <RickyRoss> lwl
04:18 <RickyRoss> luke-jr what is the price of the computer rent
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04:18 <RickyRoss> should i rent a stable computer and you can admin it
04:19 <RickyRoss> hm?
04:19 <RickyRoss> yt?
04:19 <RickyRoss>           
04:20 <RickyRoss> nvm around 200 maybe?
04:22 <RickyRoss> mr r clean!
04:22 <RickyRoss> i talk to my self
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04:23 <Lucifer_arma> man, if a computer rental costed $25/month, there'd be a lot better servers around here
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04:35 <luke-jr> not to mention that T3 I supposedly have
04:35 <luke-jr> what I'd like to know most is what changed since it was working earlier
04:36 <luke-jr> the current problem seemed to be PATH being unset
04:36 <luke-jr> but if that's so, it wouldn't have started earlier
04:36 <luke-jr> and now it's not coming back from a reboot >:O
04:36  * luke-jr gives tech support 30 minutes to respond to a priority Critical
04:37  * luke-jr ponders switching it to Debian, just to give them a fair comparison
04:37  * Durka is back
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04:39 <luke-jr> ...
04:40 <luke-jr> Super_Duck: you there?
04:41 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6178671.stm <-- heh
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04:46 <Arma25> hello
04:46 -!- Arma25 is now known as rickyross
04:46 <rickyross> back
04:46 <luke-jr> hey
04:46 <luke-jr> #armalukechat
04:46 <rickyross> is it working
04:46 <rickyross> k
04:58 <luke-jr> My dad use to say that the reason he never had 10 children (he had 9
04:58 <luke-jr>  also) was that he heard that 1 out of every 10 people in the world are
04:58 <luke-jr>  Chinese and he didn't want a Chinese kid. :o)
04:58 <rickyross> pwn?
04:59 <luke-jr> ftw??
04:59 <rickyross> mb
04:59 <luke-jr> gb
04:59 <rickyross> mb= maybe
05:00 <luke-jr> mb = megabit
05:02 <rickyross> ic
05:03 <ghableska> #weather 50265'
05:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (9:54 PM CST on December 14, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa. 
05:03 <ghableska> #weather 50265
05:03 <ghableska> ops
05:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (9:54 PM CST on December 14, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa. 
05:03 <rickyross> luke-jr requires aim, yes or no
05:03 <rickyross> standard IM is for old farts
05:04 <luke-jr> AOL is for n00bs
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05:08 <luke-jr> ...
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05:11 <Durka> does anyone know where i would find Iceman?
05:11 <mkzelda> anyone use an ipod in linux?
05:11 <Durka> sup dook
05:11 <mkzelda> sup
05:12 <Durka> :p
05:12 <mkzelda> i use amarok to copy stuff to my ipod, but amarok has some things that annoy the crap out of me ( like it ignores some things in my collection when it scans my media directories ) so i'd rather use something else
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05:13 <mkzelda> hrm gtkpod seems alright
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05:21 <Lucifer_arma> no ideas here, sorry
05:22 -!- Arma10 is now known as Durka
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> all's I know is that I've been using amarok for my media player and not liking it a lot
05:23  * Durka wants to know where iceman is
05:24 <ghableska> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi_the_Iceman
05:26 <Durka> lol ghab
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> is iceman still kicking around?  I thought he left, got arrested or committed or something
05:32 <Durka> lol
05:33 <Durka> i want to use stuff on his site on mine
05:33 <ghableska> has anyone here read Henry V, by Shakespeare?
05:33 <DrJoeTron> probably both
05:33 <Durka> like the tail and bike colors
05:34 <Durka> i just want his permission, i got the code
05:34 <Durka> idk if he "copyrighted" it
05:34 <DrJoeTron> for an opensource game
05:34 <DrJoeTron> ...
05:34 <DrJoeTron> oh god
05:34 <Durka> lol
05:34 <DrJoeTron> don't tell me you're the new iceman
05:34 <DrJoeTron> we can't have two of them.
05:34 <DrJoeTron> you two will have to fight to the death
05:35 <Durka> lol
05:35 <Durka> i just wanna use his code
05:35 <DrJoeTron> fight to the death
05:35 <DrJoeTron> :/
05:35 <DrJoeTron> its the rules
05:35 <Durka> like this: http://durka.freehostia.com/colors.php
05:35 <Durka> i copied the code
05:35 <Durka> but i havent told anyone on the site about it
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> no, Durka's got a long ways to go before he can fill iceman's shoes
05:40 <ghableska> I'm going to bed, cya
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> 'night ghableska (hi there!) 
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05:41 <mkzelda> you just told us durka
05:41 <mkzelda> you thief
05:41 <mkzelda> you should go work for microsoft
05:43 <Durka> i never said i was gonna be a new iceman
05:43 <Durka> llol
05:44  * Durka works for mkzelda
05:45 <mkzelda> awesome
05:45 <mkzelda> go get me some food
05:45 <luke-jr> lol
05:48 <Durka> k here
05:49 <Durka> damn the food wont go into the cd drive =/
05:49 <mkzelda> dcc it
05:53 <Durka> k one sec
06:09 <luke-jr> ./scripts/menu.rb:1: [BUG] Segmentation fault
06:09 <luke-jr> %*()#&%) RUBY
06:15 <DrJoeTron> http://noodlejunkie.com/articles/2006/12/10/ruby-is-rotting
06:21  * Durka Lucifer_arma
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06:26 <mkzelda> :( mooter is busted
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07:12 <mkzelda> what was the best/last aa version to not use boost?
07:13 <mkzelda> I cant compile it on my sparc :(
07:22 <wrtlprnft> hmm
07:22 <wrtlprnft> actually that would be a showstopper for boost.
07:24 <wrtlprnft> try revision 5807
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07:34 <wrtlprnft> ah, hi zmanuel. Gotta go soon, but mkzelda is complaining he can't use the trunk on a spark because he can't compile boost on his spark :(
07:34 <luke-jr> sparc*
07:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah, sorry
07:35 <luke-jr> heh, "wtf is a spark?" :p
07:35 <wrtlprnft> k and c so close to each other, you know?
07:35 <luke-jr> they are?
07:35 <wrtlprnft> ;)
07:36 <mkzelda> heh
07:36 <luke-jr> hey, I'm still a beginner at dvorak :p
07:36  * wrtlprnft is using qwertz
07:36 <zmanuel> I thought boost was reasonably cross platform
07:36 <luke-jr> eww
07:36 <luke-jr> is sparc included in reasonably?
07:36 <zmanuel> I'd think so
07:37 <luke-jr> well, people claim PPC is dying
07:37 <mkzelda> i've had issues w/ boost b4 on not just sparc
07:37 <zmanuel> anyway, we don't really use the bits of boost that need to be compiled, isn't it so?
07:37 <luke-jr> but it's still vastly more popular than SPARC
07:37 <zmanuel> the PS3 is PPC
07:37 <luke-jr> zmanuel: the PS3 features the Cell, IIRC
07:37 <zmanuel> which has a PPC core
07:37 <luke-jr> oh
07:37 <luke-jr> hmm
07:37 <mkzelda> i believe i may have gotten past the boost problem
07:38 <luke-jr> so my earlier idea is possible...
07:38 <mkzelda> apparently it doesnt distribute
07:38 <luke-jr> turning the EFIKA into a PS3 virtualizer...
07:38 <mkzelda> doesnt parrallelize well
07:38 <luke-jr> ah
07:39 <zmanuel> Didn't we plan to put the bits of boost we use into src/thirdparty?
07:39  * luke-jr doesn't remember that
07:39 <wrtlprnft> yeah
07:39 <wrtlprnft> noone got around to do that
07:40 <wrtlprnft> nah, in a release we shouldn't depend on all of boost
07:40 <wrtlprnft> imagine how big the arma installer would get on windows if we did
07:40  * luke-jr thinks static linking is bloat, especially when done manually like that
07:41 <luke-jr> of course, when you're talking Windows, there's no real choice
07:41 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: I think you just got yourself an assignment :) From the active devs, you're the one using boost the most
07:41 <wrtlprnft> errm, uh
07:41 <wrtlprnft> i never used a bit in my own code, i wanted to wait to see boost integrated
07:41 <wrtlprnft> whatever, I'll do it
07:41  * luke-jr silently sneaks off to bed not mentioning the extensive boost in vValue
07:42 <zmanuel> I thought that was wrtl's code originally?
07:42 <luke-jr> indeed, originally
07:42 <wrtlprnft> but w/o boost
07:42 <wrtlprnft> i used std::auto_ptr all over the place
07:42 <luke-jr> actually, I think it had shared_ptr back then
07:42 <zmanuel> oh, then Luke got himself an assignment :)
07:42 <luke-jr> ah, but I disagree with bloating the project with thirdparty code :)
07:43 <wrtlprnft> ph added the boost stuff because he wanted to put tValues into stl containers
07:43 <zmanuel> And I disagree with depending on third party libraries that take a day to compile.
07:43 <wrtlprnft> so my solution with the virtual clone() function didn't work for him
07:43 <luke-jr> then use binaries
07:44  * mkzelda looks for the sparc boost binary
07:44 <luke-jr> or make a seperate sub-project that only builds a minimal boost
07:44 <luke-jr> :p
07:44  * wrtlprnft disagrees with depending on 3rd party libs that take more than 128MB of RAM to compile
07:45 <luke-jr> hey, I only used boost because it was already there and I was told it was pending standards :p
07:45 <luke-jr> and it was convenient
07:45 <luke-jr> :)
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07:45 <zmanuel> Which means it MAY be included in the standard in about 10 years.
07:46 <luke-jr> ok, so let's discontinue Windows support for 10 years :)
07:46 <wrtlprnft> and MAY be integrated into compilers in about 20 years
07:46 <zmanuel> The GCC team is usually faster, especially when it's only a matter of copying code around :)
07:46 <wrtlprnft> anyways, gotta go, geography test starts in 13 minutes
07:47 <zmanuel> anyway, emerge -s boost does not find binaries. So what now?
07:47 <wrtlprnft> but MS can't use gpl code :P
07:47 <luke-jr> hire GenUX
07:47 <luke-jr> oh wait, they went out of biz
07:47 <wrtlprnft> so they'd have to reimplement it i guess
07:47 <zmanuel> And philippe, who would be the one really responsible and hence the man for the inclusion job, isn't around.
07:47 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: neither can glibc
07:48 <custang> wrtlprnft: neither can glibc
07:48 <luke-jr> glibc is only LGPL
07:48 <luke-jr> ...
07:48 <zmanuel> So luke-jr: the job is yours. Do it, please.
07:48 <luke-jr> no thanks
07:49 <mkzelda> Nelson Munce points and says HA HA!
07:49 <zmanuel> Would you rather REMOVE all boost code?
07:49 <zmanuel> Becasue that are the long term choices, really.
07:49 <luke-jr> shrug, maybe
07:49 <luke-jr> so I have to pick between copying code around and inventing my own replacement?
07:49 <zmanuel> Or the minimal distribution.
07:50 <luke-jr> you missed the joke ;)
07:50 <zmanuel> My humor sensors don't react to you anymore since that earth rotation thing, remember?
07:50 <luke-jr> what about the Earth's lack of rotation?
07:51 <mkzelda> I really wish boost would distribute 
07:51 <zmanuel> Well, I thought your first post on it was a very good joke, and it turned out I was very wrong.
07:51 <mkzelda> its the difference of 8 mins and 2-3hrs
07:52 <luke-jr> mkzelda seems the perfect man for making a minimal boost
07:52 <zmanuel> Anyway, three choices: build a minimal distribution of boost with the stuff we use, remove boost code, or integrate it.
07:52 <luke-jr> he actually has incentive :)
07:52  * zmanuel is off for breakfast.
07:52 <mkzelda> im willing to learn
07:52  * luke-jr is off for bed :)
07:52 <luke-jr> almost 1 AM >_<
07:53  * custang its 6:00 pm
07:53 <luke-jr> liar
07:53 <mkzelda> but my experience w/ programming stops after "Understanding programming logic and reason" and Intro to ***
07:53  * custang is from AUSTRALIA
07:53 <luke-jr> mkzelda: that's ok, you theoretically just need to touch the build system and such
07:53 <mkzelda> custang: please dont tell me what happens, i want to be surprised
07:53 <luke-jr> which nobody else here is any better suited to do
07:54 <custang> mkzelda: about what???
07:54 <luke-jr> they have lightbulbs in austrailia?
07:54 <luke-jr> ;)
07:54 <mkzelda> whatever, mr 'im custang from the future'
07:55 <custang> lol
07:55 <custang> its not that bad
07:55 <custang> unless your in the north of australia
07:55 <custang> lol
07:55 <luke-jr> yeah, I guess just the immorality is that bad
07:55 <custang> yep sure is
07:56 <luke-jr> guys cheating on their wives and all :/
07:56 <custang> :| never heared that
07:56 <custang> but im not full aussie im half italian too i like playing football and im good at it
07:57 <luke-jr> football is mere violence
07:57 <custang> football = soccer
07:57 <mkzelda> i think he's talking about soccer man
07:57 <luke-jr> bah
07:57 <custang> haha lol
07:57 <luke-jr> not much better
07:57 <luke-jr> then it's just plain boringness
07:58 <custang> luke-jr you do a sport??
07:58 <mkzelda> foot fairies
07:58 <custang> too old
07:58 <luke-jr> no
07:58 <mkzelda> :D
07:58 <luke-jr> used to shoot rifles
07:58 <custang> lol
07:58 <custang> you from usa
07:58 <luke-jr> but I lack a rifle now
07:58 <mkzelda> guns are evil
07:58 <luke-jr> guns are good
07:58 <mkzelda> they can be used to kill someone and killing is not that cool
07:59 <mkzelda> anymore
07:59 <luke-jr> I can kill someone with a fork too
07:59 <luke-jr> what's your point?
07:59 <mkzelda> you should stop using forks too
07:59 <custang> SPOON
07:59 <mkzelda> ya, use a spoon
07:59 <mkzelda> much safer
07:59 <luke-jr> I'll kill you with a rock then
07:59 <luke-jr> :p
07:59 <custang> haha 
07:59 <mkzelda> then we'll have to get rid of all the rocks
07:59 <luke-jr> then I'll jump on your head
07:59 <luke-jr> :o
07:59 <custang> NO LEGS lol
07:59 <mkzelda> then we'll have to cut off your legs
08:00 <mkzelda> maybe just feet
08:00 <luke-jr> not really, you probably wouldn't feel me
08:00 <luke-jr> but anyhow
08:00 <luke-jr> I'll email you a virus that poisons your water supply
08:00 <luke-jr> :p
08:00 <custang> haha we have no water
08:00 <luke-jr> rofl
08:00 <custang> we have a bit
08:01 <custang> stage 3 and the north is in 6
08:01 <luke-jr> ...
08:01  * luke-jr goes over to his sink and leaves the faucet running for a few hours
08:01 <mkzelda> i read stage 3 and think gentoo
08:01 <luke-jr> hehe
08:02 <luke-jr> speaking of water
08:02 <luke-jr> I'm thirsty
08:02 <luke-jr> brb
08:02  * custang has bad ping in server
08:02 <mkzelda> speaking of thirsty, im hungry
08:02  * custang goes to toliet and misses :O
08:03 <luke-jr> ...
08:03 <custang> ....
08:03 <luke-jr> mmm pure filtered water :)
08:03 <luke-jr> cuz tap water has too much flouride crap
08:03 <luke-jr> :p
08:03 <custang> lol
08:04 <custang> luke-jr you play armagetron??
08:04 <luke-jr> rarely
08:04 <custang> lol never see you
08:04 <custang> yu make servers tho yea??
08:04 <luke-jr> yeah
08:04 <luke-jr> I spend more time developing the game and hosting servers than I do playing it
08:04 <custang> yea me and apparition might be maiing a server
08:05 <luke-jr> O.o
08:05 <custang> making*
08:05 <GodTodd> #dict flouride
08:05 <armabot> GodTodd: No definition for "flouride" could be found.
08:05 <luke-jr> #dict custang
08:05 <armabot> luke-jr: No definition for "custang" could be found.
08:05 <custang> lol i was gonna do that
08:05 <GodTodd> #dict fluoride
08:05 <armabot> GodTodd: wn and gcide responded: wn: fluoride n : a salt of hydrofluoric acid; gcide: Fluoride \Flu"or*ide\ (? or ?; 104), n. [Cf. F. fluoride.] (Chem.) A binary compound of fluorine with another element or radical. [1913 Webster] {Calcium fluoride} (Min.), fluorite, {CaF2}. See {Fluorite}. [1913 Webster]
08:05 <custang> #dict luke-jr
08:05 <armabot> custang: No definition for "luke-jr" could be found.
08:06 <luke-jr> WHAT?!?!?!
08:06 <luke-jr> I mean
08:06 <custang> lol
08:06 <mkzelda> nothing to eat :(
08:06 <luke-jr> WHAT? ?? ? ?? ? ?? ?
08:06 <mkzelda> im almost as hungry as this guy http://www.mkzelda.com/images/Hungrynegro.jpg
08:06 <custang> #dict armagetron
08:06 <armabot> custang: No definition for "armagetron" could be found.
08:06  * GodTodd sends luke a dictionary.
08:06 <custang> haha
08:06 <pinter> #dict pinter
08:06 <armabot> pinter: wn: Pinter n : English dramatist whose plays are characterized by silences and the use of inaction (born in 1930) [syn: {Harold Pinter}]
08:07 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you one of those guys who abuse dictionaries?
08:07 <GodTodd> how do you abuse a dictionary?
08:07 <custang> lol luke-jr it would be so funny if 500 people went into that test server XD
08:07 <mkzelda> if by abuse you mean, cuts out a hole in the middle and hides a flask or drugs in it, then ya
08:07 <luke-jr> attempt to use it for a purpose other than that of which it is intended :p
08:07 <GodTodd> such as?
08:07 <luke-jr> custang: not really, wrtl would have a cow
08:08 <luke-jr> GodTodd: figuring out how to spell words
08:08 <custang> wrtl???
08:08 <GodTodd> so, in your opinion, just what is a dictionary for?
08:08 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft <-- him
08:08 <luke-jr> GodTodd: looking up definitions of words
08:08 <GodTodd> yeah...cause the words in a dictionary aren't spelled correctly
08:09  * GodTodd rolls his eyes.
08:09 <luke-jr> no, cuz if you don't know how to spell it, you can't look it up
08:09 <luke-jr> du
08:09 <luke-jr> h
08:09 <GodTodd> then a dictionary is of no use to you?
08:09 <luke-jr> dictionary is useful when you know how to spell it
08:09 <luke-jr> :p
08:09 <mkzelda> Some people are smart enough to figure out how to do so anyways
08:09 <GodTodd> then a dictionary is of no use to you?
08:09 <luke-jr> anyhow
08:09 <mkzelda> they sound it out and get some of the first letters right
08:09 <luke-jr> way past bed time
08:09 <custang> we need a server in australia we have one called ShadowLight Tron but the settings are normal and know one goes in it :)
08:10 <luke-jr> mkzelda: not all dictionaries allow searching for partial matches
08:10 <luke-jr> and not all words are spelled like they sound
08:10  * GodTodd notes that knowing everything must not include spelling.
08:10 <mkzelda> oh i was talking about a dictionary in hand
08:10 <luke-jr> custang: last time I looked, server rentals in Aussie were expensive
08:10 <mkzelda> then the person can allow whatever partial matches their brain can handle
08:11 <GodTodd> mkzelda: hence the limitation
08:11 <custang> hehe thats why  dont make a server in australia
08:11 <custang> anyways im going to playing armagetron catch ya guys later
08:12  * custang LEAVES
08:12 <mkzelda> what server?
08:12 <custang> huh???
08:12 <mkzelda> where will u go to play?
08:12 <custang> hmmmmmm
08:12 <custang> maybe durkas
08:13 <mkzelda> haha i just wanted to make a liar out of you
08:13 <mkzelda> you didnt really leave
08:13 <custang> huh????
08:13 <custang> i no
08:13 <mkzelda> :D
08:13 <mkzelda> i may see ya there
08:13  * custang REALLY LEAVES
08:13 <custang> ok bye
08:13 <mkzelda> haha u didnt leave again
08:13 <mkzelda> im not even going
08:13  * custang REALLY REALLY LEAVES
08:14 <custang> bye
08:14 <custang> im serous now
08:14 <custang> hehe magic know im gone......................
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08:16 <mkzelda> Why does Ervin Johnson keep track of where you are?
08:16 <mkzelda> *Earvin
08:19 <mkzelda> hah, i googled for magic johnson and got http://ifuckedanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com/ b/c it said "Her eyes rolled up pleadingly as she threw her head down again and again on my magic johnson."
08:22 <mkzelda> Tony said...
08:22 <mkzelda>     Way to feed your throbbing Chomsky to her little brown McCarthy.
08:22 <mkzelda>     Like LBJ fucking Kennedy's head wound on Air Force One, this is truer than the truth. Nice work. 
08:22 <mkzelda> roflmao the internets are ridiculous
08:25 <GodTodd> nah...it's just like the world in general...not a thing wrong with it...it's the people on it that annoy me ;)
08:26 <GodTodd> well...most of*
08:26 <GodTodd> heh
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe I missed the boost discussion
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: zmanuel (hi there!) z-man-work (hi there!) ping (this is a drive by thing anyway)
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> joda was going to do the code copying when he got us updated to build in windows.  So it may already be done, he'd intended to put it somewhere for windows only
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> I asked him several times to put it in src/thirdparty though.  You know how thick-headed he can be.  :)
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, if we can't "copy code around" and keep the boost stuff we use to ourself, I'm for getting rid of it.  We've got too goddamned many compile time dependencies that aren't optional.
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09:26  * DrJoeTron yawn
09:26 <custang> hey
09:28 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma, GodTodd  spidey scorch3d?
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> if you can get at least one other player besides you and me, I'm in
09:29 <DrJoeTron> ko
09:29 <DrJoeTron> hmm
09:30 <DrJoeTron> maybe Ill work on the lobster tub
09:30 <DrJoeTron> just a quick note
09:30 <DrJoeTron> all of the server settings show up when you join a server right?
09:30 <Lucifer_arma> no, only what's different from default
09:30 <custang> yes
09:30 <DrJoeTron> custang seems more right than you
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> rather, only what's different from the client's settings, which are usually default but not always
09:31 <DrJoeTron> :p
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> have you ever seen TALK_TO_MASTER in there?  ;)
09:31 <custang> nope
09:31 <custang> i think
09:31 <DrJoeTron> either that or contact nemo and swampy for their server settings for limbo and shrunk
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> no, you haven't.  It's not sent to the client
09:31 <DrJoeTron> so I can make mix them
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> nemo posted his limbo settings awhile back
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> and, they may be in examples
09:32 <DrJoeTron> oh that makes my life a tad easier
09:32 <DrJoeTron> I gotta get this combined and send it to gomes to put on the lobster tub
09:32 <custang> you making a server or something???
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> if he is, it'll be in illinois
09:33 <DrJoeTron> it wont help ya' aussie boy
09:33 <custang> :(
09:33 <DrJoeTron> and its more like redoing a server that was already up
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, joe's adhd, he has to rearrange all of his servers every couple of hours
09:34 <custang> lol
09:34 <DrJoeTron> its out of my hands
09:34 <DrJoeTron> I have no choice
09:34 <custang> how many servers you have???
09:34 <Lucifer_arma> that reminds me, I should restart my server
09:34 <DrJoeTron> but the shrunken limbo will be much better than fortress
09:34 <DrJoeTron> currently 1 1/2
09:34 <custang> k
09:35 <DrJoeTron> half becouse its sitting there and waiting for a new configuration
09:35 <custang> lucifer you own super duck nano??
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> do you want to start from default settings, or cage settings?
09:35 <Lucifer_arma> custang: no, I think that's Legit's
09:35 <custang> lol 
09:35 <DrJoeTron> default
09:35 <custang> mixed up
09:36 <DrJoeTron> I dont think lobster settings would work
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> ok.  Then you'll probably want to restart your client
09:36 <DrJoeTron> on a small grid
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> you know, connect to shrunkland first, grab a screenshot, then quit and restart and connect to limbo
09:36 <DrJoeTron> yeah thats what I was going to do
09:36 <DrJoeTron> but if some of it is already posted
09:36 <DrJoeTron> why not?
09:36 <Lucifer_arma> if you wanted to start from cage settings, you could just connect to the cage in between :)
09:37 <DrJoeTron> I kept the settings of the cage on this pc
09:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, you might have to dig for it.  It might be easier to just connect and grab a screenshot :)
09:37 <DrJoeTron> just incase anything went bad
09:37 <DrJoeTron> your ways is faster right now
09:37 <DrJoeTron> ONLY because I'm peeling an orange
09:38 <custang> hehe
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> oooo, can I watch?
09:39 <Lucifer_arma> are you going to peel a banana next?
09:39 <custang> apparition, hans, rodreges and i might be making a server
09:41 <DrJoeTron> I know
09:41 <DrJoeTron> you private messaged me about it
09:42 <DrJoeTron> as well as Lucifer_arma, and made 2 threads about it ;)
09:42 <DrJoeTron> why cant you just host it on your pc
09:42 <DrJoeTron> thats what I did for almost a year
09:42 <DrJoeTron> its not rocket science
09:42 <custang> lol but i dont kept in on 24/7
09:43 <Lucifer_arma> turn it on 24/7, then?
09:43 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma does have a point
09:43 <custang> watse power lol
09:43 <DrJoeTron> hey it just turned night time on the east side of the australia
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> if "lol" used as a full stop in Australia?
09:44 <custang> na this is .
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> ah
09:44 <Lucifer_arma> is there an Australia On-Line, then?
09:44 <DrJoeTron> I thought you ended each sentences with "lol" lol
09:45 <DrJoeTron> well if you're cool you did
09:45 <custang> on line where on aramgetron??
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> I think we should deprecate lol and instead use "aol"
09:45 <DrJoeTron> haha
09:45 <Lucifer_arma> and to end a paragraph, we'll use aolzomgrofldicksuck
09:46 <custang> haha people use lawl hehehe
09:46 <DrJoeTron> hurf druf
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> so, in order to avoid wasting power, you'd like to get someone else to run a server 24/7 for you?
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> how does *that* now waste power?
09:46 <custang> lol i was joking around XD
09:46 <Lucifer_arma> see, the problem is, you're coming off sounding like a freeloader, and while we all like to get free shit, we generally don't like freeloaders
09:47 <DrJoeTron> the fact that you're trying to freeload on a free game
09:47 <DrJoeTron> is kind of a different low
09:47 <DrJoeTron> especially for a server your going to run for like what, 8 months tops?
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  The general attitude around here is that if you're getting a free game and you want to improve it somehow (such as by offering a server on a continent that currently doesn't have one), you kinda should be trying to contribute
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> the nice thing about it being a game is that there's a way for every person to contribute something positive
09:48 <DrJoeTron> especially when most of the server hosts are in europe and the US
09:48 <Lucifer_arma> even joe's cat has made positive contributions to the game
09:48 <DrJoeTron> he has
09:48 <DrJoeTron> :3
09:49 <DrJoeTron> wanna know his name :V?
09:49 <Lucifer_arma> so, if you're not actually trying to freeload, we could use something that would make it more obvious ;)   <--- ;) can be used as a full stop
09:49 <Lucifer_arma> his name is Lucifer, I'm sure
09:49 <DrJoeTron> it's whitey
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> I used to have a black cat that went around whining all the time.  I named him Oreo
09:50 <Lucifer_arma> (ok, that's not true, but it's funny!)
09:51 <DrJoeTron> custang I think it would be great contribution if you set up a server in australia, but as I said, most of us are from europe and the US
09:51 <DrJoeTron> so having us host a server for you is kind of depleting the purpose, especially if its free
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  The thing is, if any of our aussie players could run a server, it would already be there.  The aussie players we have now are very addict--..er, dedicated to the game
09:51 <Lucifer_arma> *defeating
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> I know wolverine (or whatever her regular mbc'd name is) would love to run a server
09:52 <custang> we have a server in australia though
09:52 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah?  then why so many posts asking someone to host a server for you?
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> is that Dance of the Cats server still around?
09:53 <custang> because i only saw it then haha
09:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you sort by ping in your server browser, you get good results :)
09:54 <custang> hehe i figured that out about 3 days ago...
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> something else you might want to consider.  Some of the all-time greatest players around here have been australian (I'm thinking about subby and hang3r), and they didn't have australian servers to play on :)
09:54 <DrJoeTron> dance is gone
09:54 <DrJoeTron> so is coffeee
09:54 <DrJoeTron> :/
09:54 <Lucifer_arma> and if you ever get to play with communist, you'll be schooled on what ping actually means
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> that man rocks the grid even when he sucks, I swear
09:55 <DrJoeTron> yeah its pretty nuts when he plays
09:55 <custang> i do play good with pings like 300 - 400 though
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> allegedly he used to play two cycles at once and kick ass with both of them
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> some days I'd kill to have a ping that high, I really would
09:55 <Lucifer_arma> and I've all but lost interest in running my own server because my ping is too low on it, I can't play on it
09:55 <custang> download something then.
09:56 <DrJoeTron> or play on my server ;d
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> downloading isn't a solution because it makes the ping unstable, and sucks cpu time from my machine
09:56 <Lucifer_arma> I want the higher ping to be stable and caused outside of my home, for best play
09:57 <custang> well i gtg bye
09:57 <Lucifer_arma> go bang a kangaroo for me!
09:57 <custang> :( 
09:57 <DrJoeTron> wallaroo for me :d
09:57 <custang> haha thats funny :|
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09:58 <Lucifer_arma> I gues he's not a kangasexual
09:58 <DrJoeTron> maybe he's a closet kangasexual
09:58 <DrJoeTron> alright lets see what I can do here
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10:03 <Lucifer_arma> oh shit, I'm fucked for the test tomorrow
10:04 <DrJoeTron> :(
10:04 <DrJoeTron> I finished today
10:05 <Lucifer_arma> I just realized I don't have any clue how to find the mass in R2
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> I should be able to get at least a 44 with what I feel strong about right now, we'll have to see after I finish reviewing in the *morning*
10:09 <Lucifer_arma> #night
10:09 <armabot> Good night Lucifer_arma!
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10:43 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6519 /private/z-man/clio/ (factory.hpp instantiation.hpp macros.hpp): Yay! 120 kb gone! Factory is now using function pointers instead of pointers to classes with virtual functions.
11:03 <z-man-work> WTF? Moving the implementation of virtual functions from the header to the cpp file makes everything BIGGER?
11:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6520 /private/z-man/clio/ (factory.hpp macros.hpp): Moved function pointer declarations into FlexibleFactory
11:08 <DrJoeTron> time to test what I have so far
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11:32 <wrtlprnft> wth do i have to do with dictionaries?
11:33 <wrtlprnft> if we're only using shared_ptr and variant, couldn't we just reimplement them?
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13:14 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6521 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files): Another 35 kb down.
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13:15 <z-man-work> wrtlprnft: tJUST_CONTROLLED_PTR already is our shared_ptr
13:15 <madmax|pt> hello
13:16 <z-man-work> it's just stupidly named, and requires the object to be derived from tReferencable or similar (it's an invasive smart pointer)
13:16 <z-man-work> I just noticed function pointers are valid template arguments :)
13:16 <z-man-work> time to do some evil.
13:18 <spidey> #weather 38256
13:18 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 37.0°F (6:19 AM CST on December 15, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa. 
13:20 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: the name sort of suggests it's a pointer that “just” controls if it is 0 before it's accessed in debug mode
13:21 <z-man-work> as I said: stupidly named
13:21 <wrtlprnft> hmm, and the tReferencable… that would mean I'd have to change the cockpit classes
13:21 <wrtlprnft> i did some experimenting and managed to implement a shared_ptr that does what we need in 40 lines
13:22 <z-man-work> Yep. But you just have to derive from it, shouldn't be too much of a big deal.
13:22 <wrtlprnft> can't just say namespace boost { typedef tJUST_CONTROLLED_PTR shared_ptr; }
13:24 <wrtlprnft> oh, and can it be const?
13:25 <z-man-work> the object pointed at? No. It needs to be possible to be destroyed, and IIRC, that's impossible with const objects.
13:27 <wrtlprnft> const_cast :P
13:27 <wrtlprnft> err, no
13:27 <wrtlprnft> have the pointer object be constant, not the pointed object
13:28 <wrtlprnft> so you can give it to a function that can't change the pointed object, but once the last pointer object is dead it'll be destroyed even if the last pointer object was const
13:30 <z-man-work> Hmm, no, you need the extra level of indirection of boost::shared_ptr for that, I think, or a specialization that stores the non-const pointer, but only gives out the const. It's easily doable, but not currently done.
13:32 <wrtlprnft> make the refcount member of tReferencable mutable?
13:34 <z-man-work> No, you'd still be destroying the object from a const method. Only possible with const_cast. (Not that I would mind terribly).
13:35 <wrtlprnft> make the pointer's internal value mutable, too :P
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13:51 <z-man-work> now that only makes the pointer value mutable, not the pointed-at object :)
13:52 <z-man-work> (sorry, busy evildoing with function pointer template arguments)
13:54 <wrtlprnft> is there any implementation of boost::variant (though this was what gHudValue was originally for before it grew to the vValue it is now)?
13:54 <wrtlprnft> if we have that we can throw out boost, I think
14:13 <z-man-work> no, we don't have a variant. I'd argue that vValue should be specialized for floats anyway, though.
14:13 <z-man-work> And if anything, it should be a boost::any, that's much more powerful.
14:16 <wrtlprnft> the cockpit needs strings as well
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14:16 <DrJoeTron> hey, does anyone care to help me find the In Limbo settings from nemo's server?
14:17 <DrJoeTron> on the forums I mean
14:17 <wrtlprnft> copy them from the console?
14:17 <DrJoeTron> I tried that with shrunkland it was a complete failure
14:18 <[dlh]> DrJoeTron: sure, just a sec.
14:18 <DrJoeTron> excellent thanks a bunch :)
14:19 <[dlh]> http://harple.com/~lee/settings_custom.cfg ← there.
14:20 <DrJoeTron> oh awesome, much appreciated
14:21 <DrJoeTron> [dlh] whats your real name?
14:21 <[dlh]> daniel/lee
14:21 <DrJoeTron> on arma?
14:21 <[dlh]> nemo
14:21 <DrJoeTron> oh you!
14:22 <[dlh]> we need more good servers, hope you come up with a good combination of settings.
14:22 <DrJoeTron> I was wondering where you were :( 
14:22 <DrJoeTron> haha, I hope I do too
14:22 <DrJoeTron> thanks, I'm trying to combine Shrunkland and Limbo.
14:22 <DrJoeTron> if that means anything
14:23 <DrJoeTron> I love the idea of Rubber witha  decimal
14:23 <[dlh]> heh
14:24 <[dlh]> I've been thinking about starting a HTF server, with shrunkland-ish type settings
14:25 <[dlh]> maybe more Limbo-ish settings…
14:25 <DrJoeTron> hehe
14:25 <DrJoeTron> Im going to add a few lobster things
14:25 <DrJoeTron> like scoring. a very very small single use turbo, 
14:26 <DrJoeTron> probably even more useless than the one in the current cage 
14:26 <DrJoeTron> this is all to replace the tub
14:26 <DrJoeTron> since sumo is as dead as disco
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14:35 <DrJoeTron> why does Find in notepad suck so much today
14:36 <spidey> true or false,
14:36 <spidey> when choosing a physician , look for an emphasis on "miracle drugs"
14:36 <spidey> LOL
14:39 <DrJoeTron> alright I'm going to bed so I dont make something horrid
14:39 <DrJoeTron> thanks a bunch [dlh] I appreciate your help ;)
14:39 <[dlh]> sure, cya.
14:45 <spidey> ohhh
14:45 <spidey> george washingtons doctors killed him! ;x
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14:55  * wrtlprnft is glad 
14:55 <wrtlprnft> *legit/super duck left without saying a word
14:56 <wrtlprnft> err, happy
14:57 <spidey> lol
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15:30 <[dlh]> Argh, how does one get the flag to spawn for HTF. These are the settings I have right now → http://pastie.caboo.se/27832
15:33 <wrtlprnft> <Zone type="flag"><!-- ... --></Zone>?
15:35 <wrtlprnft> need a map, of course :)
15:42 <[dlh]> #aaconfig RESOURCE_
15:44 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig resource_
15:45 <armabot> wrtlprnft: RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_CLIENT: URI the client uses to search for map files if they aren't stored locally. Better leave it alone (default: http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/) || RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_SERVER: URI clients and the server use to search for map files if they aren't stored locally (default: http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/)
15:45 <wrtlprnft> those are a bit misleading, though :(
15:49 <spidey> man
15:50 <spidey> this is the last time i wait till morning to do my homework
15:50 <spidey> it's 8:51am now, i started at 6am...and i just now finished 52 pages :/
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15:57 <spidey> http://www.funpic.hu/files/pics/00010/00010692.jpg
16:05 <wrtlprnft> i agree.
16:06 <spidey> lol
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16:27 <spidey> oops
16:27 <spidey> some idiot flipped the wrong breaker and cut power to the whole house
16:27  * spidey blushes
16:46 <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: something else. ed is complaining about those lag credit messages, there's a lot of them. Maybe only print them in debug mode?
16:48 <z-man-work> I thought they already were debug mode only... sure, go ahead, wrap them in an #ifdef DEBUG
16:48 <wrtlprnft> ok :)
16:51 <wrtlprnft> they're in #ifdef DEBUG_LAG
16:51 <wrtlprnft> which is defined at the beginning of the file, so I'll wrap that
16:57 <spidey> wrtlprnft, what browser do you use?
16:58 <wrtlprnft> Opera/9.02 (X11; Linux i686; U; en)
16:58 <spidey> http://fallin-angels.net/  << does that display right? all the columns inline and stuff?
16:59 <wrtlprnft> as i said, too high
16:59 <spidey> screenshot?
17:00 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/falling-spidey.png
17:01 <wrtlprnft> the content col is 1px too high
17:01 <spidey> hm
17:02 <wrtlprnft> and the whole thing is too hight, too
17:03 <spidey> i tihnk i know what it is
17:03 <spidey> i used a hack for the right column instead of using margin: 10px 0 10px 175px;
17:04 <spidey> maybe not o.O
17:09 <spidey> how about now?
17:10 <[dlh]> spidey: you know you can download opera for windows, right :)
17:11 <spidey> hm
17:12 <spidey> fixed :D
17:13 <spidey> <yes i installed opera> ;x
17:14 <spidey> now
17:14 <spidey> i'ma change res to 800x600 , brb
17:17 <wrtlprnft> same pos now
17:17 <wrtlprnft> still too high
17:17 <spidey> ?
17:18 <spidey> o
17:18 <spidey> i had to use a zoom thingy to see
17:18 <spidey> heh
17:19 <wrtlprnft> and if you put stuff into the content thing it grows over the sides
17:19 <spidey> ?
17:20 <spidey> all mine are like that, i just <br> the line when it gets to long
17:22 <wrtlprnft> no, it's longer than the sidebars
17:24 <spidey> hmm
17:24 <spidey> i don't understand...
17:28 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/falling-spidey2.png
17:28 <spidey> The requested URL /falling-spidey2.png was not found on this server.
17:28 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/falling-spidey1.png
17:28 <spidey> oh
17:28 <spidey> that's simple
17:28 <spidey> sec
17:29 <wrtlprnft> noooooooooooooooooo
17:29 <wrtlprnft> noooooooooooooooooo
17:29 <wrtlprnft> noooooooooooooooooo
17:29 <spidey> ?
17:29 <spidey> overflow: auto;
17:29 <spidey> fixes that
17:31 <wrtlprnft> grrrrrrrrr
17:31 <wrtlprnft> stupid X11
17:31 <spidey> ?
17:31 <wrtlprnft> the keyword always stops working if i press alt + tab + ^^
17:31 <spidey> heh
17:31 <wrtlprnft> i copy and pasted the nooooo together
17:32 <wrtlprnft> and no, overflow: auto is even uglier
17:32 <wrtlprnft> i already have to scroll to see the entire page, w/ overflow:auto i'd have a scrollbar in a scrollbar
17:33 <spidey> well
17:33 <spidey> i'll change it to x768
17:34 <spidey> nut if i got any lower it'll look horrible in bigger resolutions
17:34 <spidey> s/nut/but
17:34 <wrtlprnft> what about you make it fluid?
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17:35 <wrtlprnft> that would be awfully easy
17:35 <spidey> i can't make percents and pixels work together
17:35 <spidey> i always fuck it up
17:35 <wrtlprnft> don't use pixels
17:35 <wrtlprnft> and i don't see a use for percents either
17:35 <spidey> ?
17:36 <wrtlprnft> the left and right are floats with an em width and borders
17:36 <wrtlprnft> and the content is a normal box with left and right margins which are a bit more than the width of the left and right bars
17:36 <spidey> hm
17:36 <wrtlprnft> that's it.
17:36 <wrtlprnft> no width on the content.
17:37 <spidey> why does width matter?
17:37 <spidey> it's height causing it
17:37 <spidey> even in 800x600 width is fine
17:38 <spidey> i have to go shower, my last 2 test for this semester are in 30 minutes, i'll fix it when i get home
17:38 <wrtlprnft> well, at high resolutions it'll look really ugly
17:38 <wrtlprnft> especially since you used pixels, not ems
17:52 <spidey> wel
17:52 <spidey> well
17:54 <spidey> i "should" only have to change the container
17:54 <spidey> well, not really
17:54 <spidey> container doesn't have a height, so i only have to change the columns
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18:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hmm
18:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #evening
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20:23 <wrtlprnft> s3d anyone?
20:23 <wrtlprnft> in some 10 minutes, have to do something else before
20:23 <wrtlprnft> spidey: Lucifer_arma: [dlh]: DrJoeTron?
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20:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hrrmm
20:55 <[Xpert]DarkStar> anyone know about cracking rar archives?
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20:59 <[Xpert]DarkStar> or where to get stargate atlantis s03e14 not in a pw protected rar archive?
21:08 <spidey> woot!
21:08 <spidey> i have
21:08 <spidey> 4 100's and a 94 and a 76
21:08 <spidey> :D:D:D
21:09 <spidey> as my first semester adverage!
21:09 <spidey> and by our scale a 93 is a A so i got 5 A's and a D ;x
21:13 <spidey> #last --from wrtlprnft --with em --nolimit
21:13 <armabot> spidey: [17:41:52] <wrtlprnft> especially since you used pixels, not ems, [17:39:10] <wrtlprnft> the left and right are floats with an em width and borders, [16:49:58] <wrtlprnft> z-man-work: something else. ed is complaining about those lag credit messages, there's a lot of them. Maybe only print them in debug mode?, [14:20:12] <wrtlprnft> copy them from the console?, [13:57:17] <wrtlprnft> is there any (8 more messages)
21:14 <spidey> hmm
21:18 <wrtlprnft> what's the 76?
21:18 <spidey> pre-algebra
21:19 <spidey> only reason
21:19 <spidey> is because i decided to keep a 65
21:19 <spidey> instead of retest
21:19 <spidey> and i only had 2 pre algebra books this semester
21:19 <spidey> i made a 88 or something on the first one
21:21 <wrtlprnft> pre algebra?
21:21 <wrtlprnft> that's like stuff that doesn't have variables yet?
21:21 <spidey> hm
21:21 <spidey> i guess
21:22 <spidey> gimme a example
21:23 <wrtlprnft> you give me an expample of what you're doing?
21:23 <spidey> well
21:23 <spidey> different things
21:24 <spidey> like -somethingx * 4 / x + 5
21:24 <wrtlprnft> -3*x*x + 10x + 42 = 0 ← that would be algebra
21:24 <spidey> yea
21:24 <spidey> i'm doing that
21:24 <wrtlprnft> then why is it called pre algebra?
21:24 <spidey> dunno
21:24 <spidey> because it's only basics?
21:25 <spidey> or something
21:25 <wrtlprnft> pre calculus is not calculus, anyways
21:25 <wrtlprnft> ie, you're not deriving anything
21:25 <spidey> well
21:25 <wrtlprnft> * -,
21:25 <spidey> i guess it makes algebra easy
21:25 <spidey> if you learn some of it in pre algebra
21:25 <spidey> easier*
21:26 <wrtlprnft> do you have any x²?
21:26 <spidey> well
21:26 <spidey> i would tell you
21:27 <spidey> but all i see is x and A with a line over itt
21:27 <spidey> then a small circle type thing
21:27 <spidey> oh
21:27 <spidey> A with a 2 exponent
21:27 <spidey> A has a line over it
21:28 <wrtlprnft> a?
21:28 <wrtlprnft> i mean x*x
21:28 <spidey> oh
21:29 <spidey> no, not yet
21:29 <spidey> but isn't that like
21:29 <spidey> 1x
21:29 <spidey> ?
21:29 <wrtlprnft> err, no
21:29 <wrtlprnft> definitely no quadratic equations
21:29 <spidey> 1heh
21:29 <spidey> we mainly have things like
21:30 <spidey> 3a(-5b)  or -5x / 4 - x + -3
21:30 <wrtlprnft> i guess you'll see that soon enough →x = (-b - √(b²-4*a*b))/2/a
21:30 <spidey> once again
21:30 <spidey> i see alot of ASCII :p
21:30 <wrtlprnft> umm, don't you need an equeal sign somewhere?
21:30 <wrtlprnft> get a client capable of utf8!
21:31 <spidey> no?
21:31 <spidey> it's
21:31 <spidey> 'er
21:31 <spidey> i done forgot
21:31 <spidey> oh
21:31 <spidey> adding like signs?
21:31 <spidey> or something..
21:31 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/spideyextra.png
21:32 <spidey> nop
21:32 <spidey> don't have that ;p
21:32 <wrtlprnft> that's one of the only forumulas I ever had to really learn
21:33 <wrtlprnft> that and these:
21:33 <wrtlprnft> (a+b)*(a+b) = a*a + 2*a*b + b*b
21:33 <wrtlprnft> (a-b)*(a-b) = a*a - 2*a*b + b*b
21:33 <wrtlprnft> (a-b)*(a+b) = a*a - b*b
21:34 <spidey> o.o
21:34 <wrtlprnft> actually, i wonder if google can do this:
21:34 <wrtlprnft> #g power / time
21:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:34 <wrtlprnft> nope
21:34 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 W / 1 s
21:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (1 watt) / (1 second) = 1 m^(2) kg / s^(4)
21:35 <wrtlprnft> actually, that's stupid
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #g power  time
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #g power * time
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:35 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 W * 1 s
21:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (1 watt) * 1 second = 1 joule
21:35 <wrtlprnft> can only do units :(
21:36 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 MW * 1 hour / 1 month
21:36 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((1 MW) * (1 hour)) / (1 month) = 1,368.95463 watts
21:36  * wrtlprnft loves that useless unit MWH/month
21:43 <spidey> wow..
21:43 <spidey> 1em is fucking huge
21:43 <wrtlprnft> it's yourfont size
21:43 <spidey> omg
21:43 <spidey> i changed font-size to 11em
21:43 <spidey> now it takes the whole screen
21:44 <wrtlprnft> 1 em is the default of your browser
21:44 <wrtlprnft> 11 em is 11 times that size
21:44 <spidey> 1em is still huge
21:44 <madmax|pt> em? oO
21:45 <wrtlprnft> then use less than 1em
21:45 <wrtlprnft> madmax|pt: CSS uni
21:45 <wrtlprnft> t
21:47 <spidey> http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/1589/1emhq0.gif
21:52 <spidey> ok so
21:52 <spidey> why doesn't top: work when i use em
21:52 <spidey> but it doesn't when i use px
21:53 <spidey> ok, maybe it don't o.o
21:53 <wrtlprnft> note that ems are always relative to the font size of the element
21:54 <wrtlprnft> so on an element with half the font size 1 em is half as much
21:54 <spidey> i got font size at .9
21:54 <spidey> that's about 11px
21:55 <spidey> hm
21:56 <spidey> ok
21:56 <spidey> no more em's
21:56 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:57 <spidey> i'm doing something wrong...
21:57 <spidey> not sure what =/
21:57 <wrtlprnft> what's going wrong?
21:58 <spidey> wow
21:58 <spidey> that's gay
21:58 <spidey> i had         border: 1px solid #484646;  in html,body {}
21:58 <spidey> and it was causing it not to work >.>
21:58 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:59 <spidey> i removed it from it, and it's working now
22:05 <Lucifer_arma> totally homosexual
22:06 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:06 <wrtlprnft> what/who is?
22:06 <Lucifer_arma> spidey
22:06 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
22:07 <wrtlprnft> are you two together?
22:07  * Lucifer_arma notes the sign of the radical in the quadratic formula is +/-, not just -
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> nah, my wife doesn't like spidey
22:07 <wrtlprnft> yeah, forgot
22:07 <spidey> what did i do to her :(
22:07 <wrtlprnft> i'd know it, just wrote it down the wrong way
22:07 <Lucifer_arma> me?
22:08 <spidey> one good thing about luke is
22:08 <wrtlprnft> and i would probably have been too lazy to find my ± key
22:08 <spidey> his wife sounds hot
22:08 <spidey> lol
22:08 <luke-jr|work> that lukes are good things
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> also, "deriving" is not "taking the derivative"  :)
22:08 <Lucifer_arma> the gerund for that is "differentiating"
22:08 <wrtlprnft> that's a language problem
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> minor thing, but when you derive something, that means you're using mathematical tools to go from a primitive concept to a more advanced concept
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> it is, imo, a very serious language problem
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> half the problem in calc 1 seems to be figuring out that "taking the derivative" is "differentiating" :)
22:09 <wrtlprnft> if i talk about math i usually do it in german
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> I've heard people say "derivating" instead
22:10 <wrtlprnft> and i didn't take the derivative of anything while i was in canada
22:10 <wrtlprnft> derivativing :P
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I know.  but that's actually independent of the problem.  Native english speakers with no second language have the problem.
22:10  * wrtlprnft is just noting that noone actually told him that yet
22:11 <wrtlprnft> so thanks :)
22:11  * Lucifer_arma notes nobody says it in calc 1 either :)
22:11 <Lucifer_arma> you have to read between the lines to figure it out.  You know you got it right when your teacher finally understands you.  :)
22:11 <wrtlprnft> aah, i like german :) there it's „ableiten“ for taking the derivative and “Ableitung„ for the derivative itself
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, when my calc 1 teacher first said "differentiable" in class, everyone got confused because before that he'd only ever said "taking the derivative"
22:12 <wrtlprnft> is integrating just as wrong or do you have to say, “taking the integral”
22:12 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> and "can or can't take the derivative", so "differentiable" was new.
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> integrating is right.  :/
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect the problem is ultimately derived from the leibnitz/newton thing.  So I'd expect German not to have the problem since Leibnitz' conventions and language were the ones adopted,
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> and then translated into english.
22:13 <Lucifer_arma> Where english already used "deriving" for something else, and in math you can't have the same word meaning two different things.  That's just not allowed.
22:13 <wrtlprnft> well, „Ableitung“ means something else, too
22:14 <wrtlprnft> but that's not related to math
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> I want someone who's a good artist to create a web comic about a superhero called the Integrator, and use the comic to teach math
22:15 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> ah, but here's a catch.  When you say something like "the part is integral to how it works", you accent the middle syllable
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> so intEGral, right?
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> but when you talk about an integral, you accent the first syllable.  INTegral
22:16 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> if you say inTEGral when you mean INTegral, people get confused
22:17 <wrtlprnft> as i said, i never talked about that stuff in english :P
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> no wonder americans have so much trouble with math, the language is all fucked up :/
22:17 <Lucifer_arma> (that's ignoring the base problem that geeky things are stigmata here)
22:17 <wrtlprnft> many germans are having math trouble, don't worry
22:19 <wrtlprnft> now, how are you supposed to implement an efficient mergesort implementation without using pointers?
22:19 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, you don't?
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> any particular reason you can't use pointers?
22:20 <wrtlprnft> this compuuter science course sucks. just because my teacher has long forgotten how a pointer works i can't use them in a test
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> ack, that really does suck
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> because by definition there's no such thing as an efficient sort without pointers
22:20 <Lucifer_arma> which is one of the reasons interpreted languages use references for variable copying and shit anyway
22:21 <wrtlprnft> not all do
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> he's asking you to change a spare tire but only letting you use a crescent wrench
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> copy-on-write is the most common model I've seen, which php and python both use :)
22:21 <wrtlprnft> didn't know PHP used it
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, ironically, if you pass by reference in php, you take a slight performance hit compared to just passing a copy, because the original variable is referenced without ref-counting it
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> and the copy is only done when you change the copy
22:22 <wrtlprnft> and then he wants me to comment on every part of the program and describe every variable
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> and then the copy isn't really done, it's evaluated nd the new value stored.  So if you pass by reference, you cause the interpreter to ref-count, which adds overhead
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, the last part is reasonable.  :)
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> but sorting without pointers, er, only reasonable if you haven't covered pointers in class because you're not supposed to know about them
22:23 <wrtlprnft> well, the rest of the class doesn't
22:23 <wrtlprnft> you know, what I'm writing is so trivial I wouldn't bother to add even a single comment
22:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd want to do it by creating an array and copying the two arrays into it, then just do any given sort
22:24 <wrtlprnft> use nice names for vars and functions, but no comments
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> you know, one of the reasons I won't take a CS degree and will avoid taking CS classes is so I don't have the problem you've got now :)
22:24 <wrtlprnft> well, i hope I'll get a reasonable mark
22:24 <Lucifer_arma> I could take any given science/math/engineering degree and have the same or better employment options as I would with a CS degree :)
22:25 <Lucifer_arma> if you can't use pointers, then even a binary sort probably won't do
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> but you could approach it with a binary sort
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> first scan for min/max values
22:27 <pavelo> how about using array of indexes
22:27 <wrtlprnft> oh, and did i ever mention that writing a program on paper sucks?
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> you're writing it on paper!?!?!?
22:27 <wrtlprnft> yeap
22:27 <wrtlprnft> *yep
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> wtf?
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> is it too late to drop the class and take a different professor?
22:28 <wrtlprnft> if i was writing it on a computer i could just compile him and show the teacher that it works
22:28 <wrtlprnft> i could drop it, but I'm still hoping for a usuable mark, and this is not university
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, yes, and if I were the teacher, compiling and running would be a requirement of the assignment...
22:28 <mkzelda> #weather 27545
22:28 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 64.2°F (4:28 PM EST on December 15, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011.1 hPa. 
22:28 <wrtlprnft> ooooh, but the cheating possibilities!
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> aren't any different than writing it on paper
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> you know as well as I do that no two programmers will ever look as close as cheating papers look in code
22:29 <Lucifer_arma> unless they're surgically joined at the neck or something
22:29 <wrtlprnft> no, cheating = write it before and just copy it
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> you mean write it now and copy it off a usb stick or something?
22:30 <wrtlprnft> something like that
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> why is the test writing a program anyway?  Shouldn't it be test questions asking about programming concepts and syntactical gotchas, with a final project program along with it that you've worked on for a few weeks?
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> has this guy even seen code written after 1984?
22:31 <wrtlprnft> umm, err
22:31 <wrtlprnft> we aren't even fixed on a programming language
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> fine, do it in mindfuck
22:31 <wrtlprnft> brainfuck?
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> do it in python where it doesn't matter :)
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, brainfuck
22:31 <wrtlprnft> or better in whitespace
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> there ya go
22:32 <wrtlprnft> well, i mentioned that and he said he wanted to be able to read it
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> fine, do it in english :)
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> or german
22:32 <wrtlprnft> variable names WILL be in english
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> whatever he can read
22:32 <wrtlprnft> no, he hasn't seen any recent code
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> then why is he teaching a programming class?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> umm
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> lemme guess, he's the department head?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> no
22:33 <Lucifer_arma> department head's brother/husband/father/whatever?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> see, computer science is a fairly new subject
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> not *that* new.  I took programming classes in high school, and that school had offered them for several years before I took 'em
22:34 <wrtlprnft> anyways, before it was purely a matter of choice and did't cound for marks
22:34 <wrtlprnft> at least here
22:34 <wrtlprnft> so now that it's an actual course they just take math teachers and tell them to teach programming
22:34 <Lucifer_arma> ?  But, but... Germany's been producing talented game developers since I was a kid!
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> but...but....math teachers can't fucking program!
22:35 <wrtlprnft> if you're talented you have your own ways of learning it
22:35 <Lucifer_arma> my CS teacher in high school was a math teacher who knew he couldn't program, so he depended on the book and the 2-3 talented kids in every class to teach the class
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> he lectured for the first couple of weeks, long enough to figure out who the talented kids were, and then basically turned lecturing over to them
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> so even I got stuck lecturing, heh
22:36 <wrtlprnft> i actually took a course ages ago, where we started with all the VB crap.
22:36 <Lucifer_arma> he still gave assignments, but they came out of the book.
22:36 <wrtlprnft> but that wasn't in school
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, it was pascal.  VB didn't exist back then.  Neither did Java, for that matter.
22:37 <wrtlprnft> and that guy actually KNOWS what he's talking about
22:37 <Lucifer_arma> structured programming was in, object-oriented was still a fringe concept
22:38 <wrtlprnft> he's in a 4-man company that's doing all sorts ofstuff
22:38 <madmax|pt> is Calc similar/same as Mathematical Analysis?
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> probably not
22:38 <pavelo> its the same thing
22:38 <Lucifer_arma> ?
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> maybe the translation to english makes it read differently :)
22:39 <madmax|pt> Calc is in high school or in college?
22:39 <pavelo> calculus== mathematical anallysis
22:39 <madmax|pt> I see
22:39 <Lucifer_arma> well, here, it depends.  Some high schools have it, some do a dual-credit deal with a community college to offer it
22:39 <[dlh]> I took calc in high school. Depends, though.
22:39 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_analysis
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhh.  I don't know, reads like it requires calculus
22:40 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:40 <Lucifer_arma> rather than being the samet hing, but I could see calculus being taught along the way
22:41 <wrtlprnft> like calculus is a subset of it
22:41 <Lucifer_arma> see, the name "Mathematical analysis" by itself indicates teaching a type of reasoning, but the calculus class I took was a skills class
22:41 <Lucifer_arma> well, the calculus classes I've taken, anyway, and analysis is kind of a byproduct of the skills taught, but the focus is on skills
22:41 <pavelo> we have a subject called math analysis, and its all about derivating and itegrating.....
22:42 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, but does it focus on what those things mean and/or require you to already know them, or does it focus on how to do it?
22:42 <Lucifer_arma> you can't do either of those things without the other (i.e. you have to teach some meaning with the how-to in order for the student to understand)
22:42 <Lucifer_arma> but you can definitely place the emphasis in different places
22:42 <pavelo> on how to do it i guess: you start with limits
22:43 <pavelo> then do derivatives..... then you integrate
22:43 <Lucifer_arma> is there a presumption that you already know what a limit is?
22:43 <pavelo> no
22:43 <Lucifer_arma> could just be education-speak
22:43 <Lucifer_arma> you know, fancify the course title
22:44 <pavelo> i think its called differently in different languages
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, what's the major?  Does that class substitue for a calc 1 class if you're on a math track compared to say an engineering or science track?
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> like the difference between algebra (a skills class) and linear algebra (a highly theoretical class)
22:45 <wrtlprnft> isn't linear algebra terribly boring and easy?
22:45 <pavelo> now im not sure i understand the diff between a skills and theoretical class
22:45 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails Lobster Tub
22:45 <armabot> DrJoeTron: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “lobster tub” at the moment, sorry.
22:45 <wrtlprnft> i mean, what can you actually do w/o squares?
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think linear algebra depends on calculus, so it's not quite a perfect comparison
22:45 <DrJoeTron> it HAS to be on port 4534 right?
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> no joe, it doesn't
22:46 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: 4534 to 4540
22:46 <Lucifer_arma> but if you just now started the server, you might hae to wait some hours before every master knows about it
22:46 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails tub
22:46 <DrJoeTron> and it will show up on the master server list?
22:46 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tub” at the moment, sorry.
22:46 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: what's the IP?
22:47 <DrJoeTron> just making sure, because I;m running whats going to be the tub on my pc and Lobster cage is running on the other machine
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok pavelo, here's the difference the way I see it
22:47 <DrJoeTron> 75.56.59.36
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> in my calc 1 class, we learned what a limit was (look at the graph and say what number it is approaching at a point) and how to approximate it
22:48 <madmax|pt> i had linear algebra last year, and now i'm having mathematical analysis. im kind of trying to understand where 'Calc' fits in what i know. since i didnt have a class with that name.
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> then we learned that for most functions, you can just plug in the number and go and moved on to the derivative
22:48 <wrtlprnft> [2006/12/15 21:49:42] [17] Acknowledged server: 75.56.59.36:4534
22:48 <madmax|pt> well, analysis III, one per semester
22:48 <wrtlprnft> but that's the cage
22:48 <wrtlprnft> nothing known about another server
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> in calc 3, he threw the definition of the limit at us and told us you can't find the limit using the definition, instead you find an approximation and then use the definition to prove it's right
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> I'd imagine in a theoretical class, you might discuss the definition of a limit, prove it, and learn about how to prove your guess is correct
22:49 <wrtlprnft> you don't HAVE to guess?
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> so, in my class we learned hwo to use it, and only as much conceptually as we needed to know to use it and move on.  Skills class.
22:49 <pavelo> well they threw the definition of a limit at us right at the start of the course
22:49 <Lucifer_arma> In another class, if I were a math major, we'd learn all about the definition, how it's derived, what it means, and so forth.  Theoretical class.
22:50 <DrJoeTron> Ill bring it up later
22:50 <pavelo> so i guess its a theoretical class
22:50 <DrJoeTron> bunch of crap just happened
22:50 <DrJoeTron> bbl
22:50 <pavelo> but you also learn how to compute limits
22:50 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: technically, if you compute the limit of x^2 as x->0 by plugging 0 into x^2, you're guessing
22:50 <pavelo> Lucifer_arma: no you dont
22:51 <wrtlprnft> nope
22:51 <pavelo> you use the fact that for every <insert fancy name here> function lim x->a f(x) == f(a)
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22:52 <Lucifer_arma> pavelo: that's a guess
22:53 <[dlh]> hey, what is that setting called that allows you go through the end of your tail.
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> to prove the answer is right, you then apply the definition of a limit to prove it
22:53 <wrtlprnft> [dlh]: CYCLE_RUBBER_WALL_SHRINK
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> but until you've applied the definition to prove your answer, your answer is a guess
22:53 <[dlh]> thanks
22:53 <wrtlprnft> yw
22:53 <Lucifer_arma> now, they didn't bother to tell us that until this semester when we're trying to find the limit of a surface at a given place
22:53 <wrtlprnft> well, you can calculate 0^2
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> and that's another ballgame.  In 2 dimensions, you learn about approaching from the right and approaching from the left
22:54 <Lucifer_arma> in 3 dimensions, you have an infinite number of paths you can approach from, so it gets a lot harder to definitively state what the limit is
22:54 <wrtlprnft> now you have to prove that for any abs(a) < abs(b) abs(f(a)-0) < abs(f(b)-0)
22:54 <pavelo> no there's a thorem that says something along the lines of: if f is an elementary function and a is in D(f) then lim x->a f(x) = f(a).
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it has to be continuous on both sides of the point, curved, and some other things
22:55 <Lucifer_arma> there's one other criteria, iirc, but I'm not recalling it at the moment
22:55 <pavelo> yes, and x^2 is obviously continuous
22:56 <wrtlprnft> the only example in my mind where this wouldn't work is lim x->0 SGN(x)
22:56 <pavelo> wrtlprnft: that has no limit
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, that's what they told us in calc 1.  But in calc 3, the teacher said "that's not really true, after all."
22:56 <wrtlprnft> pavelo: yeah, but it does have a right and left limit
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> f(x) = [x]
22:56 <pavelo> well but it doesnt have a _limit_
22:57 <wrtlprnft> it has no limit but does have a value
22:57 <pavelo> function has a limit iff right limit == left limit
22:57 <pavelo> limit is not the same as value
22:57 <wrtlprnft> i know
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> so basically, what he said was "if you find a limit, what you're really saying is 'I think there's a limit, and if it is, it's this number', but until you apply the definition of a limit and prove your answer is right, it's a guess"
22:57 <wrtlprnft> there's also cases where it doesn't have a value but does have a limit :)
22:57 <Lucifer_arma> and we were all shocked
22:58 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i missed the year where limits and derivatives were introduced
22:58 <wrtlprnft> so i only know how to use them, really
22:59 <wrtlprnft> and how to figure out interesting things like lim x→0 sin(x)/x
23:00 <Lucifer_arma> 1
23:00 <wrtlprnft> yep
23:00 <wrtlprnft> there was one exercise in a test like that that noone could solve
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> l'Hopital's.  :)  I'm still thanking lackadaisical everytime I use l'Hopital's, because I was sick that day for class and lack picked up the slack for me later
23:01 <wrtlprnft> but it was lim h→0 h / (e^h + 1)
23:01 <wrtlprnft> wasn't the whole exercise, though, just the final step
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> 1 again
23:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:01 <pavelo> err no
23:01 <pavelo> that 1/2
23:01 <wrtlprnft> 1
23:01 <Lucifer_arma> use l'hopital's :)
23:01 <wrtlprnft> the derivative of h at 0 is 1
23:02 <pavelo> well just plug the zero in
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> the derivative of the top is 1, the derivative of the bottom is e^h
23:02 <wrtlprnft> the derivative of (e^h + 1) at 0 is 1
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> e^0 = 1
23:02 <pavelo> or was the e^h -1
23:02 <Lucifer_arma> if it had been e^(h+1), then the limit's 1/e
23:02 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: though we never heard of that rule, we were supposed to figure that out for ourselves
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  we had a section on it in the textbook.  :)
23:03 <wrtlprnft> noone did, and I only did after the test after sitting over it for another 30 mins
23:03 <wrtlprnft> but it does make sense
23:03 <pavelo> Lucifer_arma:  you cant use lhospital there
23:03 <Lucifer_arma> why not?  you have a function over a function, and it's indeterminate...
23:03 <pavelo> this function _isnt_ indeterminate
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23:04 <wrtlprnft> #g 0.00001 / (e ^ 0.00001 + 1)
23:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 0.00001 / ((e^0.00001) + 1) = 4.999975 * 10^(-6)
23:04  * Lucifer_arma is looking at it again
23:04 <wrtlprnft> err
23:04 <wrtlprnft> #g 0.00001 / (e ^ 0.00001 - 1)
23:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 0.00001 / ((e^0.00001) - 1) = 0.999995
23:04 <wrtlprnft> oops, -1 of course
23:04 <wrtlprnft> sorry
23:04 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't use l'hopital's you get 0, because 0/anything = 0
23:04 <pavelo> thats more like it
23:05 <Super_Duck> luke "-jr" u there? 
23:05 <luke-jr|work> maybe
23:05 <wrtlprnft> eek
23:05 <Super_Duck> i hear ya makin adjsutments
23:05 <Super_Duck> can u go to armalukechat
23:06 <wrtlprnft> plop. everyone's pretending to be away?
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23:09 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's not indeterminate :)
23:10  * Lucifer_arma stepped out to smoke and had to chat with his wife
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> I still get 0 for the limit thataway, then.
23:10 <Lucifer_arma> ok, why couldn't I find the antiderivative of sqrt(y^2 + 1) ?
23:10 <pavelo> yes its zero
23:10 <wrtlprnft> for h / (e^h - 1)?
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> no, that's the indeterminate, for the typod one
23:11 <wrtlprnft> that's 1 :)
23:11 <pavelo> dont know what came into me....
23:11 <Lucifer_arma> ok, why is the typod one 1?
23:11 <wrtlprnft> what's a “typod one”?
23:11 <Vanhayes> wrong?
23:12 <pavelo> whats the antiderivative ?
23:12 <wrtlprnft> integral function?
23:13 <wrtlprnft> or area function
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> no, it's 0.  I just threw it up in KmPlot, and it clearly goes through the origin at that point
23:13 <madmax|pt> integral function? or integral of?
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I was taking a double integral, and the function in the middle was the sqrt one I gave
23:16 <pavelo> well for the integral of sqrt(x^2+1) you would probably have to you trigonometrric substitution
23:16 <pavelo> *use
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> he'd promised us no trig substitution.  Said the worst we could expect was a u substitution
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> but a u substitution didn't work
23:17 <wrtlprnft> well, my formula collections has something on that
23:17 <Lucifer_arma> I considered a trig sub, but nothing came to mind.  He also said we wouldn't have to do parts, so I didn't try parts even though I'm thinking parts might have gotten it
23:17 <pavelo> well with trig subst its quite easy, just use x=tan(t)
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> right, then you wind up with sec(t) :)
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> er, maybe
23:18  * Lucifer_arma is a little foggy right now anyway
23:18 <wrtlprnft> integral of sqrt(a² + x²) = x/2*sqrt(a² + x²) + a²/2*ln(x + sqrt(a² + x²)) + C
23:18 <wrtlprnft> pretty eh?
23:18 <pavelo> whats a sec ? 
23:18 <pavelo> 1/cos ?
23:18 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:19 <pavelo> then thats the way to go
23:19 <Lucifer_arma> I suspect I missed something about the problem
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> I think there was supposed to end up with a y in front of it, which would have made a u substitution work
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> but I was confident in how I set up the double integral, or for some reason didn't think I needed to change the iteration
23:20  * Lucifer_arma thinks he bombed the test, but it shouldn't kill his grade which was a solid B, and will probably end up a shaky low B, but it was the last test of the class
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> but I talked to him after the test, and he might be more lenient now that he knows I'm losing my job around christmastime, and he is santa claus, after all
23:21 <wrtlprnft> not that nice.
23:22 <luke-jr|work> hm
23:22 <luke-jr|work> 47 packets transmitted, 22 received, 53% packet loss, time 45993ms
23:22 <luke-jr|work> think that's usable?
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> sure
23:23 <wrtlprnft> pulled the network cable halfway through the ping?
23:23  * luke-jr|work hopes so
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> if you don't mind waiting 60 seconds for every keystroke you type in a telnet session to show up
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> for anything else, it's probably not usable at all
23:23  * luke-jr|work uses ssh :p
23:23 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: no
23:23 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: I'd hope TCP works with retrying
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> well, you could be waiting many minutes for each keystroke, then.  :)
23:23 <luke-jr|work> hm
23:23 <luke-jr|work> better than nothing? :p
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it'll work, but with 53% packet loss, that means it'll have to retry at least twice for every packet you send
23:24 <wrtlprnft> start an arma server on that machine!
23:24 <luke-jr|work> heh, I get them out of order too
23:24 <luke-jr|work> and dupes
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, jonathan can play on it
23:24 <wrtlprnft> :D
23:24 <luke-jr|work> 100 packets transmitted, 44 received, +6 duplicates, 56% packet loss, time 99002ms
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, is it run through an echo pedal?
23:25 <luke-jr|work> what's that?
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> what computer is this, anyway?  It can't be your home connection, or you wouldn't be able to talk here
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> er, maybe it can, I just realized you're at work
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> echo pedal = guitar effects pedal (actually there's versions for all sorts of uses)
23:25 <luke-jr|work> it's a tunnel
23:26 <luke-jr|work> 100 packets transmitted, 51 received, +1 duplicates, 49% packet loss, time 10871ms
23:26 <luke-jr|work> it works better at interval 0.1
23:26 <luke-jr|work> 100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 1572ms
23:26 <luke-jr|work> interval 0.01
23:26 <luke-jr|work> much nicer
23:26 <luke-jr|work> heck, they're even in order :)
23:27 <wrtlprnft> how boring.
23:27 <luke-jr|work> darn, it stopped being so nice
23:27 <luke-jr|work> the advantage is
23:28 <luke-jr|work> this tunnel should work w/o paying for the wifi
23:28 <luke-jr|work> :p
23:28 <wrtlprnft> where is that tunnel leading to? mars?
23:28 <luke-jr|work> my home pc
23:28 <luke-jr|work> over DNS
23:28 <wrtlprnft> no, mars would be ~40 minutes of lag
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23:29 <luke-jr|work> lots of TXT lookups :)
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23:37 <luke-jr|work> symmetry...
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23:51 <Lucifer_arma> symmetry...
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> lots of TXT lookups :)
23:51 <wrtlprnft> #night thgin#
23:51 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:51 <luke-jr|work> Lucifer_arma: haha
23:52 <luke-jr|work> it seems to work best when upload and download are the same bitrate
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23:59 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska

Log from 2006-12-16:
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00:00 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
00:14 <Vanhayes> hmm, anyone up for some scortched?
00:15 <ghableska> nah, too involved with Terragen :P
00:16 <Vanhayes> heh, nice
00:18 <luke-jr|work> <!-- Truth or Consequences is a real city in New Mexico, US.  Hackensack
00:18 <luke-jr|work>      is located in New Jersey, US very close to the site of the Sept. 2001
00:18 <luke-jr|work>      face-to-face.   And finally, yes, there really is a Standardsville.
00:18 <luke-jr|work>      It's in Greene County, Virginia, US. -->
00:22 <madmax|pt> google says: Did you mean: Stanardsville
00:28 <GodTodd> fyi...nobody calls it truth or consequences...just T or C
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> kid's birthday party in a bit
00:29 <Lucifer_arma> T or C is pretty close to where they're building the spaceport
00:29 <GodTodd> yep
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, it's apparently the same exit you take to get to Hatch
00:30 <GodTodd> not sure...been quite a while since i've gone thataway
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> I've only been on that stretch of I25 twice
00:30 <Lucifer_arma> er, maybe 3 times
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6527 /private/z-man/clio/ (macros.hpp test.cpp):
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: GCC 4.1.1 fixes. The problem: in a template, the construction that allows us to create
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: a type for every member function that is wrapped does not work UNLESS the function is
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: specified as a member of a dependant type. I don't know whether this is a GCC bug or
00:32 <armabot> armagetronad: not.
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00:41  * GodTodd waits for luke to correct his assertion.
00:41 <luke-jr|work> wtf?
00:41 <GodTodd> ykwtf??
00:41 <Lucifer_arma> which assertion?
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> that somebody calls T or C truth or consequences?
00:42 <GodTodd> that people are wont to call truth or consequences T or C
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> because he saw it that way in some html comment?
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> no, they call it evolution or idiot religion
00:42 <Lucifer_arma> means the same thing :)
00:42 <GodTodd> dunno...usually he asserts that he is right and i am wrong, so i was preparing for it :)
00:43 <Lucifer_arma> 9th chords don't sound good on a bass :(
00:43 <GodTodd> heh
00:44 <GodTodd> i haven't even had time to look at my guitar in weeks let alone pick it up :/
00:44 <GodTodd> and on monday my next semester starts
00:44 <Lucifer_arma> I've gota  month break that starts today
00:45 <GodTodd> i would...but i'm shoving us history into wintermester
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> why does come out and play sound so bad on bass?
00:47 <Lucifer_arma> am I just playing it that wrong?
00:47 <luke-jr|work> probably
00:48 <GodTodd> dunno...i should find some illegal tabs and learn it on guitar
00:48 <GodTodd> heh
00:49 <GodTodd> i want my olga.net
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00:49 <Lucifer_arma> well, if I were playing it on guitar I'd be playing it right
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> that's the thing.  On bass, in rock music, you typically play only the tonic note rather than the whole chord
00:50 <Lucifer_arma> on guitar you still don't normally play the whole chord, but that song is triads, which is the power chord + the octave
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, it's distortion that gives it that warm fuzzy sound, and the way the harmonics in the triad work with each other.  All of that is missing in the bass line where there's no distortion, and you only play the tonic anyway
00:51 <Lucifer_arma> it would probably sound right if played in accompaniment with a guitar
00:52 <GodTodd> ahhh
00:54 <Lucifer_arma> of course, the bass is also what makes your body vibrate when listening, so it plays the tonic because that anchors the chord
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00:54 <Lucifer_arma> bass can make the whole chord sound different by playing different notes in the chord than the tonic, but that's not usually the desired effect, in rock music anyway
00:55 <Lucifer_arma> but there are plenty of songs where the guitars keep repeating the same chord, but the bass is moving to a different note for each phrase, making it sound more melodic and support the actual melody better
00:56 <Lucifer_arma> and of course, the whole effect is lost when its a bass by itself with no guitars :)
00:56 <GodTodd> :)
00:57 <Lucifer_arma> so, it's possible that the bass line isn't just the tonic for this riff, to summarize.  :)
00:59 <GodTodd> there...now, maybe i can learn it in the next few years heh :)
01:00 <Lucifer_arma> heh
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01:07 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:07 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 44.6°F (5:54 PM CST on December 15, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa. 
01:09 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
01:10 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 67.8°F (6:11 PM CST on December 15, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa. 
01:15 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint john
01:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 44°F / 7°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.72in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy. Showers beginning early this evening and ending overnight. Amount 5 mm. Fog. Wind south 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low plus 5.; Saturday - Fog dissipating in the morning then a mix of sun and cloud. Wind becoming (1 more message)
01:16 <Vanhayes> #more
01:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: northwest 30 km/h gusting to 50 in the morning. Temperature falling to plus 3 in the evening. Saturday night..a few clouds. Wind northwest 30 km/h gusting to 50 becoming light in the evening. Low minus 4.; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud with 30 percent chance of flurries or rain showers. High plus 3.;
01:16 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: pong
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02:43 <GodTodd> #g 78.15+42.25+83.25+101.25+125.4+40.25+10.95+35.25
02:43 <armabot> GodTodd: 78.15 + 42.25 + 83.25 + 101.25 + 125.4 + 40.25 + 10.95 + 35.25 = 516.75
02:45 <GodTodd> #g 101.00+56.25+111.00+135.00+167.25+53.95+14.60+47.05
02:46 <armabot> GodTodd: 101.00 + 56.25 + 111.00 + 135.00 + 167.25 + 53.95 + 14.60 + 47.05 = 686.1
02:50 <GodTodd> #g 516.75 usd in pesos
02:50 <armabot> GodTodd: 516.75 U.S. dollars = 5,600.69153 Mexican pesos
02:50 <GodTodd> #g 686.10 usd in pesos
02:50 <armabot> GodTodd: 686.10 U.S. dollars = 7,436.15763 Mexican pesos
02:50 <GodTodd> #g 686.10 usd in yen
02:50 <armabot> GodTodd: 686.10 U.S. dollars = 80,369.754 Japanese yen
02:50 <GodTodd> #g 516.75 usd in yen
02:50 <armabot> GodTodd: 516.75 U.S. dollars = 60,532.095 Japanese yen
02:57 <luke-jr> Mexico has money?
02:59 <Vanhayes> USA has money?
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03:02  * GodTodd notes that mexico has more money than luke.
03:11 <spidey> noob
03:11 <GodTodd> me?
03:12 <spidey> luke
03:12 <GodTodd> ahhh
03:12 <spidey> man
03:12 <GodTodd> ok...was gonna have to whoop your ass, boy :P
03:12 <spidey> i just woke up
03:12 <spidey> and
03:12 <spidey> my uncle had me doing math like 30 seconds after he woke me up
03:13 <GodTodd> sounds like a stand up guy :)
03:13 <spidey> "ok if i give you $40 i owe you $80 right? that's $120....i say yea, no wait it's $110
03:13 <spidey> then we argue
03:13 <spidey> then i think about it for 3 minutes and lay back down :))
03:15 <GodTodd> hrmm
03:16 <GodTodd> if you give me 40 but owe me 80 then you still owe me 40 :P
03:17 <GodTodd> but if you give me 40 and *still* owe me 80, then, yeah, that's 120 :P
03:17 <spidey> yea, that's what he said
03:18 <spidey> remember, it was like 30 seconds after he woke me up
03:18 <GodTodd> heh
03:18 <luke-jr> lol
03:18 <luke-jr> noob
03:18 <spidey> and
03:18 <spidey> i'm grouchy, so i'ma go bitch at my gameserver host
03:18  * GodTodd doesn't like the verbally abusive tone that has taken over the channel. 
03:18 <spidey> since they went down again
03:18 <luke-jr> Revan's dad forced him to install Windoze over SuSE
03:19 <spidey> LOL
03:19 <luke-jr> (01:50:31) Orb/Revan: omfg screw this
03:19 <luke-jr> (01:50:33) Orb/Revan: I hate windows
03:19 <luke-jr> (01:50:45) Orb/Revan: i'll talk to ya when kopete is installed :D
03:19 <spidey> haha
03:19 <ghableska> spidey
03:19 <spidey> ?
03:19 <ghableska> ?
03:20 <spidey> ??
03:20 <ghableska> ...
03:20 <GodTodd> !
03:20 <spidey> WHAT
03:20 <GodTodd> ahh..but that's redundant
03:20 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:20 <spidey> leave me alone :|
03:20 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (7:54 PM CST on December 15, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa. 
03:20 <luke-jr> spidey: 
03:20 <spidey> fuck off
03:20 <luke-jr> lol
03:20 <luke-jr> spidey: 
03:20 <spidey> /ignore
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03:23 <spidey> stop it bitch
03:29  * GodTodd stops it, bitch ;)
03:31 <spidey> gottas go
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03:35 <GodTodd> was it something i said? :(
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04:58 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: fuck off
04:58 <GodTodd> fuck you motherfucker
04:58 <GodTodd> :)
04:58 <ghableska> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44801715/ ^_^
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> hey, did you get that check?
04:58 <GodTodd> yeah
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> coo'
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> thanks again :)
04:58 <GodTodd> tanks :)
04:59 <GodTodd> not a problem
04:59 <GodTodd> been a lot of times in my life i've not been able to help anyone but have gotten help...so i like to be able to help when i can :)
05:02 <luke-jr> GodTodd: stop verbally abusing Luci!
05:02 <luke-jr> or else??
05:02 <GodTodd> or else what, good sir?
05:03 <GodTodd> or else you will virtually twist my pixels behind my virtual back?
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> nah, he uses tab completion so you can find it in your back buffer
05:04 <GodTodd> haha
05:04 <GodTodd> fucking texas history
05:04 <GodTodd> :/
05:04 <GodTodd> blew my 4.0
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> oh know!
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> oh come on, besides stephen f austin and sam houston, what is there to texas history?
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> Remember the alamo is pretty much it
05:06 <GodTodd> 'sok tho...cuz trig would have blown it too :/
05:06 <GodTodd> nah...he covered a lot of the two civil rights movements
05:07 <GodTodd> like when ut austin made a backroom into a whole law school so they wouldn't have to let a black student into the regular one
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> I use that event as a reason to talk trash about UT now
05:08 <GodTodd> heh
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> even though UT is actually one of the more progressive schools about that sort of thing these days
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> still, can't beat A&M, most aggie kids are women :)
05:08 <GodTodd> needless to say, the supreme court shot it down ;)
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> damn activist judges
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:10 <GodTodd> probably would have helped had i read the book beyond the spanish exploration
05:10 <GodTodd> heh
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> man, if it weren't for "activist" judges, we'd still have segregation and all sorts of bad things
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, yeah, that helps
05:10 <GodTodd> yeah we would
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> of course, for my history class I read most of the book the first month.  I love history
05:10 <spidey> yay
05:10 <spidey> i got blakn cd's
05:10 <spidey> 20 of them
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> I thought you were going to bed
05:11 <spidey> i done have...
05:11 <spidey> oh
05:11 <spidey> no
05:11 <spidey> i said gotta go cause i went to wal-mart
05:12 <spidey> i had just woke up 
05:13 <luke-jr> spidey: I have a ton of blank CDs...
05:13 <spidey> i don't
05:13 <spidey> i just bought 20 though
05:13 <GodTodd> i buy them when they are 10-15 per 100
05:13 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: IMO, we still *do* have segregation to an extent, as races tend to group together in places
05:13 <Vanhayes> I have a tonne of blank dvds, just no dvd burner
05:14 <GodTodd> 10-15$ that is
05:14  * luke-jr doesn't expect to buy CD-Rs ever again
05:14 <spidey> will let me put wow
05:14 <spidey> i got 20 for $10
05:14 <luke-jr> omg
05:14 <luke-jr> ripoff
05:14 <spidey> wtf you get 100 for $15?
05:14 <GodTodd> frys
05:14 <Vanhayes> heh, they were seelling these for 15 for 30, AND you get a pack of 30 for free
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr: that's more like separation.  segregation refers to the "separate but equal" doctrine that let people put up "white only" signs, which we don't have
05:15 <GodTodd> i also buy my dvds when they're 10$ for 50
05:15 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: eh, I thought it also included races living in seperate areas
05:15 <GodTodd> nope
05:15 <GodTodd> just "forced separation"
05:15 <luke-jr> spidey: newegg has 100 for $21
05:16 <luke-jr> $25 for 100 DVD-Rs
05:16 <luke-jr> but I avoid DVD-R
05:16 <luke-jr> +R is better
05:17 <luke-jr> since if you know how, you can get 100% compatibility w/ +R :)
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> it does also include that, but as GodTodd (hi there!) says, it was forced
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> that's what Darktown was all about
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> white people weren't allowed to sell their houses to black people, and in some places could be jailed for it
05:18 <GodTodd> we still do have segregation, however...just not as rampant
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> one of the ways they worked around it was by going through shady middlemen.  White people fronting for black families doing the deal for the house
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> so the seller thinks he's selling to a white family, then a black family moves in
05:19 <luke-jr> I was fixing a computer for a rental company the other day
05:19 <luke-jr> some guy was calling in to complain that his new neighbors were Mexican and didn't speak English
05:19 <luke-jr> nevermind that neither of those were true...
05:20 <luke-jr> (they're Macronesian and capable of speaking fluent English)
05:22 <Vanhayes> anyone up for scorched? 
05:22 <ghableska> sure
05:22 <Vanhayes> spidey: is your server up?
05:23 <spidey> want me to put it up?
05:23 <Vanhayes> sure, want to play too?
05:23 <luke-jr> civ?
05:23 <spidey> in a bit, i'm feeling sick  ;/
05:23 <Vanhayes> its spelled scorched
05:23 <spidey> ok
05:23 <spidey> it's up
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> solving a rubik's cube right now
05:24 <luke-jr> civ??
05:24 <luke-jr> lol
05:24 <luke-jr> I had a cube once
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> I want to see if it's the continuum transfunctioner
05:24 <luke-jr> finally decided to cheat
05:24 <spidey> hah
05:24 <Vanhayes> cheating is immoral
05:24 <spidey> i did that
05:24 <luke-jr> turns out somehow it was unsolvable :o
05:24 <luke-jr> or at least the script told me that
05:24 <spidey> i didn't pill stickers off though
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> script was wrong, they come with directions
05:24 <spidey> i took the cubes out and put them back in
05:24 <spidey> lol
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, if you pop out a corner, you can get them all out
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> then it's fairly straightforward to put them back in
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> (found out when my brother threw my dad's at me and I ducked, it hit the wall and blew up)
05:25 <Vanhayes> spidey: whats the name of it, or the ip
05:25 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: well, supposedly the colours were changed
05:25 <luke-jr> eg, someone flipped stickers
05:26 <Vanhayes> #last --with 64.
05:26 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 35053 messages.
05:26 <Vanhayes> hmm
05:26 <spidey> um
05:26 <spidey> :spidey"
05:26 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.
05:26 <armabot> spidey: [19:36:46] <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.
05:26 <spidey> ....
05:26 <Vanhayes> hz
05:26 <Vanhayes> ha*
05:26 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68. --nolimit
05:26 <armabot> spidey: [05:29:46] <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68., [19:36:46] <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68., [06:39:11] <spidey> 	68.119.125.27, and [16:49:30] <spidey> 	68.119.125.27
05:26 <Vanhayes> well I was pretty close
05:27 <spidey> http://www.addictinggames.com/kittencannon.html
05:27 <spidey> i got 973ft
05:31 <luke-jr> imma pwn u all now
05:31 <luke-jr> how do you fscking get rid of the box with scores?
05:32 <spidey> ......
05:32 <luke-jr> or talk
05:32 <GodTodd> in what?
05:32 <luke-jr> s3d
05:32 <GodTodd> s for the score thing
05:32 <spidey> "hey idiot, i'm here, click me, i'm called "ok"
05:32 <GodTodd> and t for the talk thing
05:32 <GodTodd> but then you'd already know that if
05:32 <GodTodd> you'd RTFM
05:32 <spidey> LOL
05:32 <spidey> i forgot about that
05:32 <luke-jr> I don't RFMs
05:33 <spidey> luke-jr, rtfm
05:33 <GodTodd> then don't tell others to
05:33 <luke-jr> why not
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> 1198 ft
05:33 <spidey> suck
05:34 <GodTodd> because jesus doesn't like "hypocrits"
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> first and only shot
05:34 <spidey> LOL
05:34 <spidey> my furthest "air" distance was 103ft
05:34 <ghableska> Brb.
05:34 <spidey> that's how long the kitty stays inflight
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> if jesus doesn't like hypocrites, then there are a lot of people who think they're going to heaven, but aren't
05:35 <GodTodd> yep
05:35 <GodTodd> and, btw, we're spelling it the luke way...no 'e' in hypocrit
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "Mommy, my sister said I was a mean tattletale" - Lucifer's Son
05:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> #quote add "Mommy, my sister said I was a mean tattletale" - Lucifer's Son
05:37 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The operation succeeded.  Quote #40 added.
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> that was actually more ridiculous then when his sister caleld him a baby and he threw himself on the floor and cried
05:38 <GodTodd> heh
05:38 <GodTodd> kids are silly
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> these are both within the last 2 days :/
05:48 <DrJoeTron> ghableska pong
05:48 <DrJoeTron> whats up
05:48 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: is steam working for you? :P
05:49 <DrJoeTron> I'm about to tell you
05:49 <GodTodd> tell him no ;)
05:49 <DrJoeTron> huh I got the login screen...
05:49 <ghableska> yeah
05:49 <DrJoeTron> way to go steam
05:49 <ghableska> the forums are down too...
05:49 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
05:50 <DrJoeTron> greaaat.
05:51 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: just when I wanted to buy CSS :P
05:52 <DrJoeTron> steam always fucks up
05:52 <DrJoeTron> but more than likely
05:52 <DrJoeTron> after they're done sifting through billions of red texted emails
05:53 <ghableska> lol
05:53 <DrJoeTron> they will probably do something nice for us
05:54 <ghableska> hopefully :)
05:54 <DrJoeTron> good think I kept my cd keys "D
05:54 <ghableska> haha
06:00 <DrJoeTron> ghableska just logged in
06:00 <DrJoeTron> I
06:00 <DrJoeTron> di
06:00 <DrJoeTron> d
06:03 <ghableska> hmm?
06:03 <DrJoeTron> I just logged in
06:03 <DrJoeTron> they're definately having problems though
06:03 <ghableska> ok
06:03 <DrJoeTron> they just disabled buying stuff
06:03 <ghableska> aww
06:03 <DrJoeTron> I'm not going to give them much guff
06:03 <DrJoeTron> they're bound to have some outages
06:04 <ghableska> true
06:10 <DrJoeTron> ta
06:12 <ghableska> #night
06:12 <luke-jr> woo
06:12 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
06:12 <luke-jr> I'm overall winner
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06:12 <Vanhayes> cause everyone else left
06:12 <Vanhayes> congrats
06:12 <luke-jr> :)
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07:04 <GodTodd> i guess for those that do not taste the nectar of victory often, a hollow win is better than nothing
07:53 <luke-jr> GodTodd: hey, when I only know how to move the camera, I consider victory pretty good for any reason :p
07:54  * spidey yawns
07:54 <luke-jr> you still up?
07:54 <spidey> yea
07:54 <spidey> been playing halo
07:54 <spidey> this whole time :/
07:54 <luke-jr> lol
07:55 <luke-jr> wanna teach me how to pwn gabble ska?
07:55 <spidey> that isn't hard
07:55 <luke-jr> ok, Vanhayes then
07:55 <spidey> still isn't hard
07:56 <luke-jr> it is if you only know how to aim and fire
07:56 <spidey> nope
07:56 <spidey> takes me about 3 shots or less to lineup
07:56 <spidey> then another to kill :D
07:56 <luke-jr> I don't know how to pick weapons
07:56 <spidey> well
07:56 <spidey> join my server
07:57 <spidey> i was gonna burn a ubuntu cd, but i'll do it later i guess
07:57 <luke-jr> what IP again?
07:57 <spidey> #last --from armabot --with 68.
07:57 <spidey> ..
07:57 <luke-jr> lol
07:57 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.1
07:57 <spidey> !!
07:58 <luke-jr> rofl
07:58 <spidey> #ping
07:58 <spidey> wrtlprnft, bot's broken
07:58 <spidey>  	Wan IP
07:58 <spidey> 	68.119.125.27
08:00 <spidey> luke-jr, 
08:00 <spidey> reconnect
08:00 <luke-jr> ...
08:00 <spidey> ..
08:01 <armabot> spidey: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 35541 messages.
08:01 <luke-jr> ..........
08:01 <armabot> spidey: [06:39:11] <spidey> 	68.119.125.27
08:01 <armabot> pong
08:03  * GodTodd notes that the tutorial teaches fairly well.
08:06 <wrtlprnft> #ping
08:06 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: pong
08:06 <armabot> pong
08:13 <wrtlprnft> wow, 3 seconds of ping
08:13 <luke-jr> 3?
08:13 <wrtlprnft>  08:16:33 up 30 days, 17:56,  4 users,  load average: 2.42, 2.38, 2.28
08:13 <wrtlprnft> err, 3 minutes
08:13 <luke-jr> 7
08:13 <wrtlprnft> 08:06 <wrtlprnft> #ping
08:13 <wrtlprnft> 08:06 <armabot> pong
08:14 <wrtlprnft> argh, I'm stupid
08:14 <wrtlprnft> less than a minute
08:14 <luke-jr> [07:07:06] <wrtlprnft> #ping
08:14 <luke-jr> [07:07:39] <armabot> pong
08:16 <spidey> where you go??
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08:16 <spidey> LOL
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08:21 <spidey> pwned
08:21 <Vanhayes> #nihjt
08:21 <Vanhayes> #night
08:21 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
08:21 <Vanhayes> I ws way off on that first one
08:21 <luke-jr> I hereby declare a mandatory s3d break from my PC :p
08:22 <luke-jr> you did that on purpose, didn't you?
08:22 <luke-jr> you aimed that bomb at my PC...
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08:22 <luke-jr> spidey: you get a special prize for that
08:22 <luke-jr> scratch n' sniff proof!
08:22 <spidey> LOL
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08:24 <spidey> ???
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08:24 <spidey> wtf
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08:24 <Arma726b> PWN
08:24 <spidey> luke?
08:24 <Arma726b> lol
08:24 <spidey> gay
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08:26 <IlLegit> hi
08:26 <Dorka> hi
08:26 <spidey> ..
08:26 <Dorka> we should start a clan
08:26 <Dorka> LOL -- Lots Of Lamers
08:26 <spidey> luke
08:26 <spidey> you moron
08:26 <IlLegit> lol ok
08:26 <spidey> wildcats made lol
08:27 <luke-jr> same diff
08:27 <spidey> stop spamming
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08:27 <spidey> loser
08:27 <luke-jr> =p
08:28 <spidey> if you want to be productive help me fix my layout :p
08:28 <luke-jr> hm
08:28 <luke-jr> nah
08:28 <luke-jr> too tired
08:28 <luke-jr> :p
08:28 <spidey> i try to make it liquid, and it like
08:28 <spidey> falls apart >.>
08:28 <spidey> literally
08:29 <luke-jr> 1. <center> is invalid
08:29 <spidey> no
08:29 <spidey> that's something else
08:29 <spidey> i haven't uploaded the current thing
08:30 <spidey> and <center> is the only way i could get everything inline
08:30 <luke-jr> 2. don't specify document font size
08:30 <spidey> on IE and firefox
08:30 <luke-jr> 3.move text-align to body if you want it everywhere
08:30 <spidey> ...
08:31 <spidey> it's in the body
08:31 <luke-jr> wasn;t
08:31 <spidey> was
08:31 <luke-jr> 		div {
08:31 <luke-jr> 				text-align: center;
08:31 <luke-jr> 		}
08:31 <spidey> html,body {
08:31 <spidey>         margin: 0;
08:31 <spidey>         padding: 0;
08:31 <spidey>         background: #000000;
08:31 <spidey>         font-size: 11px;
08:31 <spidey>         text-align: left;
08:31 <spidey>         color: #979BA6;
08:31 <spidey> }
08:32 <spidey> using it in div { is the same
08:32 <spidey> whenever i do <div class=""> 
08:32 <spidey> it aligns center
08:32 <luke-jr> still bad form
08:32 <luke-jr> 4. don't use pixels
08:46 <luke-jr> 5. http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/foo.html
08:46 <spidey> and
08:46 <spidey> i'm looking at something that's completely off?
08:46 <spidey> :p
08:46 <luke-jr> hm?
08:47 <spidey> sec
08:47 <luke-jr> ok, so firefox is buggy
08:47 <luke-jr> or Konqueror is
08:47 <luke-jr> or I'm in tweaks mode
08:48 <spidey> http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9169/lukeyv5.gif
08:48 <luke-jr> yeah I saw
08:50 <wrtlprnft> come on, is it that hard to make such a layout?
08:50 <wrtlprnft> takes like 2 minutes
08:50 <spidey> lets see your attempt to make my layout liquid :p
08:50 <wrtlprnft> sure
08:51 <luke-jr> hrm
08:51 <luke-jr> Konq was in tweaks mode
08:51 <luke-jr> o.o
08:52 <spidey> lol
08:53 <luke-jr> so was FF
08:53 <luke-jr> it looks closer in both now that I added doctype
08:53 <spidey> wtf's tweaks mode?
08:53 <luke-jr> try-to-be-IE
08:53 <spidey> lol
08:53 <luke-jr> usually enabled when a webpage is invalid
08:53 <luke-jr> eg, missing doctype
08:54 <luke-jr> I wonder why overflow and height are being ignored now tho
08:54 <spidey> :p
08:54 <spidey> my problem was half the stuff i tried was ignored
08:54 <spidey> and i "couldn't" get it to work
08:55 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/fa.htm
08:56 <spidey> ...
08:56 <luke-jr> nope
08:56 <luke-jr> not fluid
08:56 <spidey> to high = to low
08:56 <spidey> ;p
08:56 <luke-jr> at width=640, Content has somehow become smaller than Menu/right
08:56 <DrJoeTron> anyone wanna help me configure the lobster tub?
08:56 <DrJoeTron> its currently up
08:56 <wrtlprnft> so what?
08:57 <wrtlprnft> gotta go soon, sorry
08:57 <luke-jr> so Menu/right should be a % usually
08:57 <luke-jr> or at least ex
08:57 <wrtlprnft> nope
08:57 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails Lobster Tub
08:57 <armabot> DrJoeTron: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “lobster tub” at the moment, sorry.
08:57 <wrtlprnft> the menu needs a certain width
08:58 <luke-jr> not that one :p
08:58 <spidey> um
08:58 <luke-jr> no menu should be that wide
08:58 <spidey> so dies content
08:58 <spidey> does
08:58 <luke-jr> content can wrap
08:58 <spidey> it's to small at lower resolutions
08:58 <luke-jr> chop menu/right down
08:58 <wrtlprnft> needs an extra div
08:59 <luke-jr> I'd suggest width as a %, plus min-width and max-width :)
08:59 <luke-jr> not sure if that's allowed tho
09:00 <luke-jr> 6. gnite
09:01 <wrtlprnft> better now?
09:02 <wrtlprnft> for lower resolutions you should provide a handheld stylesheet anyways
09:18 <spidey> :D
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--- Log opened Sun Dec 17 17:52:38 2006
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18:21 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: is 69.61.78.150 your server?
18:49 <luke-jr> yeah
18:49 <luke-jr> why?
18:49 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: 
18:57 <wrtlprnft> back
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18:57 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v "s u p e"
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18:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Norm's Place (85.214.59.184:4534) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://norm.ds-media.eu, Description: “Friendly People, avg. Speed, avg. Rubber, Fast Killzone“, Players (12/12): =Jf= Carbon, Crazy Sh0X, DoomMan, DrTenma, green parrot, Hornet, ICE BEAR, perso, tobiwan, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦×¥ $µazerø¹	si, ¦×¥ FoFo
18:57 <wrtlprnft> errm
18:58 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v s+u+p+e
18:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: S u p e r D u c k N a n o F o r t r e s s !!! (69.61.78.150:4534) running 0.3.0_alpha6514 unix dedicated, Description: “-Ct-Ed- sux my scrotum“, No online players.
18:58 <wrtlprnft> that's why
18:58 <wrtlprnft> it's got an insulting description
19:01 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: 
20:03  * wrtlprnft suggests luke-jr read http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=svcterms :)
20:04 <wrtlprnft> Abuses include, but are not limited to: [...] Spamming or harrassment
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20:28 <@mkzelda> #weather 27545
20:28 <armabot> mkzelda: The current temperature in Southall Subdivision, Raleigh, North Carolina is 70.5°F (2:27 PM EST on December 17, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa. 
20:30 <@mkzelda> impossible to dress appropriately
20:31 <@mkzelda> 40-50 degree temp swings in the same day
20:39 <madmax|pt> someone for HTF?
20:40 <Lucifer_arma> HTF?
20:40 <zman> Happy Tree Friends?
20:40 <madmax|pt> hold the flag
20:43 <madmax|pt> guess not
20:45  * zman goes offline now, cu when I get back.
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20:46 <guru3> so which of the master servers are broken?
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20:56 <Lucifer_arma> mine
20:56 <Lucifer_arma> wait, broken how?
20:58 <[dlh]> madmax|pt: I'll play some HTF, if you're still up to it.
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21:03 <madmax|pt> [dlh]: there
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21:18 <ghableska> #weather 50265
21:19 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (1:54 PM CST on December 17, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa. 
21:38 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ?
21:39 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: shouldn't anymore
21:50 <madmax|pt> [dlh]: good settings, now you should add again "ramps and flying cycles" for publicity :D
21:50 <luke-jr> lol
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22:16 <kamp> hey
22:17 <kamp> ah no one's here?
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22:21 <chipdip> woot
22:21 <chipdip> server up
22:21 <kamp> which kind of chip with which kind of dip?
22:21 <chipdip> Tortilla cheese
22:21 <kamp> hm
22:21 <kamp> nah, hot salsa >  cheese
22:21 <chipdip> heh
22:22 <chipdip> I guess
22:22 <kamp> ulness it's some kind of spicy cheese
22:22 <chipdip> hmm
22:22 <chipdip> mild
22:22 <kamp> nah nah
22:22 <chipdip> hah
22:22 <kamp> i'f you're going spicy go all the way
22:22 <chipdip> point taken
22:22 <kamp> which server were you talking about anyway?
22:23 <chipdip> CHIPDIP DEDICATED
22:23 <chipdip> on the master list now
22:23 <chipdip> woo
22:23 <kamp> hmm
22:23 <kamp> what kind of a server is it?
22:23 <chipdip> arma
22:23 <chipdip> what else
22:23 <chipdip> haha
22:23 <chipdip> standard
22:23 <chipdip> all defaults
22:23 <kamp> yea, i was talking about the settings
22:24 <kamp> ah, never mind
22:24 <chipdip> ALMOST all defaults
22:24 <chipdip> i should say
22:24 <kamp> i don't know aboutt hose defaults, they're pretty nasty on the internet
22:24 <chipdip> changed rubber and speed
22:24 <kamp> can't even look at a wall the wrong way
22:24 <chipdip> haha
22:24 <chipdip> I increased therubber a lot
22:24 <chipdip> so
22:24 <chipdip> heh
22:25 <kamp> ah, that's what I do when I'm bored
22:25 <chipdip> heh
22:25 <kamp> how much rubber did you put?
22:25 <chipdip> CYCLE_RUBBER
22:25 <chipdip> [0] CYCLE_RUBBER is currently set to 24.
22:25 <chipdip> :P
22:25 <kamp> yea
22:25 <kamp> nah, i usually put it at 20 or 30
22:25 <chipdip> ah
22:25 <kamp> or if i want to mess around, about 100
22:25 <chipdip> I like the number 24
22:25 <chipdip> haha
22:26 <kamp> any reason?
22:26 <chipdip> nah
22:26 <chipdip> I had the number 24 in my nick for a few years
22:26 <kamp> six times four, two and four, eight plus six plus ten
22:26 <chipdip> ooh
22:26 <kamp> doesn't seem all that interesting
22:26 <chipdip> yeah
22:26 <kamp> there's a movie coming out about 23
22:27 <chipdip> ah
22:27 <chipdip> interesting
22:27 <kamp> heh
22:27 <kamp> the movie looked all right
22:27 <kamp> jim carrey trying to break into yet another genre
22:27 <chipdip> haha
22:27 <chipdip> mathematics?
22:27 <chipdip> A mathematic drama
22:27 <kamp> nah, scary films
22:27 <chipdip> bah
22:27 <chipdip> he'll never do good in that
22:28 <kamp> something about 23 being the devil's number and controlling his life so he's the devil
22:28 <chipdip> heh
22:28 <kamp> i guess it's something of a psychological thriller. supposedly it's either all true and he's a devil tool, or he's extremely paranoid
22:28 <chipdip> yeah
22:28 <chipdip> I go with paranoid
22:28 <kamp> like a hyper version of a beautiful mind
22:28 <chipdip> hmm
22:28 <kamp> either he's a genius or he's crazy
22:28 <chipdip> haha
22:29 <chipdip> same with me
22:29 <kamp> turns out to be both, but whatever, maybe carrey'll be a paranoid devil
22:30 <kamp> all rght, i'm out
22:30 <kamp> nice talkin to ya
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22:38 <ghableska> #weather 50265
22:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 41.0°F (2:54 PM CST on December 17, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa. 
23:00  * spidey yawns
23:00 <spidey> nubs
23:09 <GodTodd> #luke
23:09 <armabot> stfu, baka noob?? RTFM??
23:29 <madmax|pt> Wow! What a great client!
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23:39 <DrJoeTron> ghableska ping
23:40 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: hi
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23:50 <ghableska> DrJoeTron
23:51 <ghableska> pong

Log from 2006-12-18:
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00:13 <spidey> damn it
00:13 <spidey> the ubuntu install keeps freezing
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00:20 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:20 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 39.2°F (4:54 PM CST on December 17, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa. 
00:24 <DrJoeTron> ghableska did you get css?CS:S 
00:24 <DrJoeTron> shit
00:25 <ghableska> not yet :P
00:25 <DrJoeTron> camping for a wii sucked
00:25 <ghableska> :-/
00:25 <ghableska> how long were you out there?
00:26 <DrJoeTron> an embarrassing time
00:26 <ghableska> 2 days?
00:26 <DrJoeTron> and its a good thing I'm a loser
00:26 <DrJoeTron> nah 9:30 pm I went
00:26 <ghableska> did you finally get one?
00:26 <DrJoeTron> and the sad part was I wasnt first in line
00:26 <DrJoeTron> I was number 7
00:27 <DrJoeTron> you bet I did :)
00:27 <ghableska> :)
00:27 <ghableska> how is it?
00:27 <DrJoeTron> dont know yet
00:27 <ghableska> ?
00:29 <ghableska> oh btw, the concerned webcomic is hilarious
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01:49 <spidey> aaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhh
01:51 <ghableska> hi spidey
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02:09 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: ping
02:14 <spidey> man
02:14 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr ping
02:14 <ghableska> ?
02:14 <spidey> fucking ubuntu
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02:15 <spidey> at first it froze on the base install at 6% on the initsomething package
02:15 <spidey> i changed the filesystem cause when i did it manually(the partitions) it said it maynot install correctly
02:15 <ghableska> hi Van-hayes
02:16 <spidey> so now it's hanging on the python2.4 minimal package :/
02:31 <Commn> yeesh
02:31 <Commn> too many noobs on the CTF servers
02:31 <ghableska> lol
02:31 <Commn> i think i had near 40 points 
02:32 <Commn> hold the flag is more fun
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02:39 <Arma56> hi
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02:40 <Arma72> hello
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03:39 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
03:56 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:57 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (7:54 PM CST on December 17, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa. 
03:59 <ghableska> #insult AOL.
03:59 <armabot> AOL. - You are nothing but a surly petrification of churlish seagull. 
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04:55 <ghableska> #night
04:55 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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05:39 <Lucifer_arma> anybody want to give crimson fields a run?
05:41 <Commn> crimson what?
05:41 <Commn> my cpu is not all that great for games
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> crimson fields, tactical wargame
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> http://crimson.seul.org/  <--- that game
05:42 <Commn> maybe later
05:42 <Commn> watching adultswim :)
05:52 <Vanhayes> #night
05:52 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
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05:56 <GodTodd> how long a game is it?
05:59 <DrJoeTron> Commn what was with your guitar sounds tonights?
06:13 <Commn> guitar/
06:13 <Commn> what?
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06:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: it's not terribly long
06:17 <GodTodd> under an hour? :)
06:17 <GodTodd> heh
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> 1-2 hours maybe, depending on how quickly you move :)
06:17 <GodTodd> hmmm
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, we could play a shorter map
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> like, mmmm, mountain defense or something
06:18 <GodTodd> cuz i have class at 8 am tomorrow :/
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> I thought you were done with classes?  Oh yeah, wintermester
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> up to you.  You might prefer to play the tutorial campaign instead, if you're interested in the game, that is.
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> Then we can play a more competitive game later on.  :)
06:19 <GodTodd> that would probably be best :)
06:20 <GodTodd> otherwise, i fear, it would mostly be an hour or two of me floundering and not accomplishing too terribly much
06:24 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=122631#122631 what the christ man!
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06:29 <NoobNoobNoob> NOOBNOOBNOOB
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06:33 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: he should read some Honor Harrington so he knows the "Peeps" are the bad guys
06:42 <DrJoeTron> I shot who in the what now?
06:43 <DrJoeTron> So is it says in the new testament that you can be forgiven for anything with the exception of denying the holy spirit
06:43 <DrJoeTron> so if you deny it you go straight to hell.
06:45 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7QVbJnSPQE
06:46 <DrJoeTron> http://www.blasphemychallenge.com/ better yet
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> so, you go to hell if you don't have an invisible friend, you go to a sanitarium if you do?
06:58 <DrJoeTron> yes
06:58 <DrJoeTron> now this is in anypoint in time you've denied 
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> can't get forgiveness for every accepting the holy spirit?
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> wait, isn't that what the whole born-again thing is all about?
07:00 <DrJoeTron> don't forget last rights
07:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've only got one square left in the middle layer of this Rubik's Cube
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> I'd like to play some crimson fields against a person
07:48 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, 
07:48 <spidey> i'll play
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> haha, I solved my rubik's cube
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> *my daughter's
07:49 <spidey> i always counted the amount of turns i did
07:49 <spidey> the first time i bought one
07:49 <spidey> then solved it :/
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, I didn't count the turns, but I did see my wife and mother-in-law both give it their best
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> so, you'll play crimson fields with me?
07:51 <spidey> lol
07:51 <spidey> yea
07:51 <spidey> for a bit
07:51 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v s u p e
07:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: S u p e r D u c k N a n o F o r t r e s s !!! (69.61.78.150:4534) running 0.3.0_alpha6514 unix dedicated, url: www.duck.com, Description: “All settings at default values.“, No online players.
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> did you manage to figure out how to play, or are you still basically where you were when we quit earlier?
07:51 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: ty
07:52 <spidey> earlier
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> ok, conect whenever you're ready.  :)
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> I started mountain defense, with me as FNA, which is an outnumbered position
07:52 <spidey> you gonna host a server?
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> aha
07:53 <spidey> oh
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> er, uh huh :)
07:53 <spidey> gimme a sec
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> unless you really want to...
07:53 <spidey> not really
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> I ran through the tutorial campaign earlier, and it was helpful.  I even learned something from it, so if you find you like this game, you might run through the tutorial campaign
07:53 <Lucifer_arma> (it didn't exist whenever I first played this game)
07:58 <spidey> heh
08:01 <DrJoeTron> think I can get a link to this game?
08:03 <spidey> no
08:03 <spidey> i just found my music folder
08:03 <spidey> lol
08:05 <Lucifer_arma> http://crimson.seul.org
08:09  * spidey just made another playlist
08:09 <spidey> ;x
08:20 <Lucifer_arma> man, that was a wussy barrage.  :/
08:21 <Lucifer_arma> I expected to take out both leading tanks, but only scratched them instead
08:21 <spidey> lol
08:23 <spidey> son of a bitch
08:23 <spidey> this ubuntu-server thing is really annoying me
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> oops
08:31 <Lucifer_arma> I think I just blew it
08:34 <spidey> wish i understood this game..
08:35 <spidey> am i doing good?
08:36 <spidey> wish this install just installed the kernal, ssh, apt, and apt-get
08:36 <spidey> i could do the rest >.>
08:36 <Lucifer_arma> I wish my artillery didn't suck so much
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> well, you're trying to get an infantry into my base, or destroy all my units
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> you did good that time, using the helicopters together like that
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> see, when you have units next to one that's attacking, they lend him some fire, giving him a bonus
08:37 <Lucifer_arma> they don't have to attack, they just have to be next to him
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, regular tactical stuff applies, like concentration of fire, terrain considerations, etc.
08:38 <Lucifer_arma> also, you have experience to deal with, but I forget exactly how that works
08:39 <Lucifer_arma> the tutorial goes into all that.  :)
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08:39 <Lucifer_arma> I think I blew it last turn because I spread out my fire too much and left too many units standing
08:39 <spidey> i doubt it
08:39 <spidey> i have like
08:39 <spidey> only a few units and they're all wounded
08:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've only got what you see
08:41 <Lucifer_arma> this scenario is designed for playing against the ai.  When two humans play, whoever side has blue should win every time, pretty much
08:42 <spidey> omg
08:42 <spidey> i can't believe i did that
08:42 <spidey> i forgot to fire off my other choppers
08:42 <spidey> damn it
08:42 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> I'm only going to be able to knock one out this time
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> my aa guns are worthless
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> you killed the ones that had real experience :/
08:43 <spidey> heh
08:46 <spidey> i want a rematch
08:46 <spidey> after this
08:46 <Lucifer_arma> heh
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> different map, then
08:47 <Lucifer_arma> I think you're getting the hang of it
08:51 <spidey> hm
08:51 <spidey> well
08:51 <spidey> that was gay
08:53 <spidey> wow
08:53 <spidey> $5 can of dip gone in 3 days >.>
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> that just about wraps it up
08:55 <Lucifer_arma> I think you blew it when you forgot to fire off those helicopters
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> did you get a dialog when it was over?
08:56 <spidey> yea
08:56 <spidey> rematch!
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> sooo, any scenario look interesting?  :)
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> the last one we played ws Tyarin Beach Raid
08:56 <spidey> don't know any...
08:57 <spidey> i don't want that beach one
08:57 <spidey> no no no!
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> arms race is fun
08:57 <Lucifer_arma> Heavy Metal is loooong
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> Island Hoppers is also fun.  It's a lot of navy
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> never really played Lost Factories
08:58 <Lucifer_arma> Operation: Foxhole is pretty long, too
08:58 <spidey> ok
08:58 <spidey> lets play it
08:59 <spidey> aslong as i get more units :D
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> how about Arms Race, then?  I don't want to be up all night playin this ;)
08:59 <spidey> k
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> ok, connect :)
09:00 <spidey> only way i can see this working in more than 2 players is teams..
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> well, more than 2 players isn't planned, but I certainly wouldn't object if it were done as teams
09:02 <spidey> ....
09:02 <spidey> wtf's it doing
09:02 <spidey> it says "waiting for remote player"
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> ?
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> oh, it means you're waiting for me to take my turn
09:02 <spidey> o
09:14 <spidey> um
09:14 <spidey> how do i take my units out of the depot?
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, the grey depots you have to take with an infantry
09:15 <spidey> ???
09:15 <spidey> no
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> the blue one, which is yours, you just click the blue dot on the depot to open it, then double-click a unit
09:15 <spidey> how do i take the units i have inside out..
09:15 <spidey> the gray one
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> the grey ones are neutral, and those units aren't yours until you take them with an infantry :)
09:16 <spidey> ;/
09:17 <spidey> that's gay..
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09:24 <spidey> ok
09:24 <spidey> i give up
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> heh
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> next time, read the mission briefing :)
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> we're supposed to race to the depots, then slug it out and try to take each other's headquarters
09:30 <spidey> wrong x...
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, oh well
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> I guess we'll have to play again another day
09:31 <Lucifer_arma> next time, get your infantry going a lot faster :)
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> I *think* you can reach the bottom depot, but it's tight
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> the top depot you can take, but only if your units by it hold it.  Then it's a tough fight there
09:32 <Lucifer_arma> I usually manage to take the bottom one, and then it's a hard fight in the middle
09:33 <Lucifer_arma> to make matters worse, I think Kand gets a set of reinforcements
09:48 <spidey> heh
09:48 <spidey> well
09:48 <spidey> i'ma go sleep
09:48 <spidey> i think i have a dentist app. tomorrow
09:49 <spidey> btw
09:49 <spidey> luke-jr, ping
09:51 <spidey> #night
09:51 <armabot> Good night spidey!
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09:57 <guru3> DrJoeTron: what did you mean about the forums before?
09:57 <DrJoeTron> going down the toilet?
09:57 <guru3> yeah
09:58 <DrJoeTron> the content of threads are turning into clan fights and beggars
09:59 <DrJoeTron> I mean come on that thread abou DOOD LETS BAN LEGIT FROM TRON
09:59 <guru3> ive banned someone from most of tron
09:59 <guru3> well
09:59 <guru3> everything i could
09:59 <DrJoeTron> yeah exactly
09:59 <guru3> it's not impossible
10:01 <DrJoeTron> I dont know
10:01 <DrJoeTron> but thats a topic for a later date
10:02 <guru3> so because of 3 recent threads
10:02 <guru3> the forums are sucking?
10:03 <DrJoeTron> There has been more, I don't really remember what else, seeing as this was a while ago
10:05 <DrJoeTron> actually now I'm curious
10:05 <DrJoeTron> how do you ban someone from armagetron?
10:05 <guru3> WELL
10:05 <guru3> *well
10:05 <guru3> by ban from armagetron
10:05 <guru3> i mean
10:06 <DrJoeTron> besides banning them from the master servers
10:06 <guru3> stop them from talking to me in pretty much anyway shape or form
10:06 <DrJoeTron> I mean I can see a massive shunning of people
10:06 <DrJoeTron> by*
10:07 <DrJoeTron> I think the community is still small enough to do that in.
10:07 <DrJoeTron> which is kind of awesome and cute :)
10:07 <guru3> so don't complain about the forums then
10:08 <DrJoeTron> this was like a week ago and it's been taken care of
10:08 <guru3> mmk
10:09 <DrJoeTron> although I do have a question for you
10:09 <DrJoeTron> how come you didnt draw a picture of you being cool :(
10:09 <guru3> because how the thread was stupid to you was how having pictures there was to me
10:10 <DrJoeTron> :( aww
10:16 <DrJoeTron> I'm starting to miss iceman
10:16 <DrJoeTron> guru3 have you heard from him at all?
10:16 <guru3> nope
10:16 <DrJoeTron> bah!
10:16 <guru3> could probably try getting in touch with his father
10:17 <DrJoeTron> wait what?
10:17 <DrJoeTron> how do you know his father?
10:17 <guru3> i don't
10:17 <guru3> but i think it could be possible to track him down
10:18 <DrJoeTron> the only easy way is through whois.sc
10:18 <DrJoeTron> that I kow of
10:18 <DrJoeTron> know*
10:18 <guru3> i didn't even th9ink of that
10:19 <DrJoeTron> http://whois.domaintools.com/icemans.net
10:19 <DrJoeTron> I got a tad worried after his domain was set to park
10:20 <guru3> yeah but i'm betting that's not his real info
10:20 <DrJoeTron> and Go Daddy only does that if you set it to it or if you miss your bill, they set it to park for 30 days
10:20 <DrJoeTron> the name I doubt
10:21 <guru3> im betting the address is fake too
10:22 <DrJoeTron> what was your method?
10:22 <guru3> his dad was going to open an online store
10:22 <guru3> find the store
10:23 <DrJoeTron> ah
10:23 <DrJoeTron> any idea on what the domain would be?
10:23 <guru3> not atm
10:23 <DrJoeTron> hah ok
10:23 <guru3> im in the middle of playing tron atm
10:24 <DrJoeTron> icemansdads-store.biz :p
10:24 <guru3> no one that actually wants buisness will use a .biz domain
10:25 <DrJoeTron> it was a joke...
10:26 <guru3> indeed
10:26 <DrJoeTron> :/
10:28 <DrJoeTron> bbl
10:28 <DrJoeTron> stupid wii campout has destroyed my sleep cycle
10:29 <guru3> cu
10:29 <DrJoeTron> ta :)
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11:15 <DrJoeTron> http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24525221 some of you might appreciate this
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13:01 <guru3> anyone one that can do me a favor?
13:02 <guru3> try connecting to electricpotential.net:4538
13:20 <pavelo> guru3: you mean like, with arma ? doesnt seem to work
13:21 <guru3> yeah it's off
13:21 <guru3> back on in a min tho
13:21 <guru3> try now
13:22 <pavelo> there
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15:45 <HIM> hi
15:45 <HIM> ×Ð
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16:10 <luke-jr> guru3: cuz .biz is lame, and has the same purpose as .com
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16:13 <guru3> we get more spam from .biz than .com
16:37 <wrtlprnft> that's because the spammy .biz domains are still free ;)
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16:50 <Fonkay> 'ello
16:59 <wrtlprnft> hi
17:04 <madmax|pt> hi
17:07 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 - (1-1/16)^2
17:07 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 - ((1 - (1 / 16))^2) = 0.12109375
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17:22 <Fonkay> ack
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20:13 <guru3> luke-jr: any anime to recommend while i'm home?
20:13 <luke-jr_work> Serial Experiments Lain?
20:13 <luke-jr_work> plot is too complex for most ppl tho'
20:14 <guru3> seen it
20:14 <luke-jr_work> Tsubasa Chronicles?
20:15 <guru3> also seen it
20:15 <wrtlprnft> guru3: so you'Re planning on making a subforum just for spam? jk
20:15 <guru3> haha x)
20:15 <guru3> not a bad idea
20:15 <luke-jr_work> guru3: Card Captor Sakura
20:16 <luke-jr_work> Bishoujosenshi Sailormoon
20:16 <luke-jr_work> Kaitou Saint Tail
20:16 <guru3> seen ccs
20:16 <luke-jr_work> InuYasha
20:16 <luke-jr_work> Aa! Megami-sama
20:16 <luke-jr_work> Groove Adventure Rave
20:16 <guru3> ahmg was good
20:16 <luke-jr_work> ...
20:16 <luke-jr_work> you've seen A!MS OVA, movie, and TV?
20:17 <guru3> no
20:17 <luke-jr_work> :p
20:17 <guru3> only the most recent tv & its 2nd season
20:17 <luke-jr_work> Pretty Guardian Sailormoon, tho that's live action
20:17 <luke-jr_work> :p
20:17 <guru3> ><
20:17 <luke-jr_work> haha
20:18  * luke-jr_work bbiab
20:18 <guru3> anywho thnx
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21:11 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #g 40 chf in euro
21:11 <armabot> [Xpert]DarkStar: 40 Swiss francs = 25.0237579 Euro
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22:43 <wrtlprnft> 40 chf = about one glass of water in swizerland
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> #g one glass of water in switzerland in USD
22:44 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:45 <Seyahnav> #g 1 litre in chf
22:45 <armabot> Seyahnav: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:45 <Seyahnav> what is a chf?
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22:46 <GodTodd> #g 1 chf in usd
22:46 <armabot> GodTodd: 1 Swiss franc = 0.81846456 U.S. dollars
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22:48 <Lucifer_arma> as spidey would say, chf is swiss gay dollars
22:48 <wrtlprnft> well, stuff IS expensive in ch
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22:49 <GodTodd> that would be "swis gey dallors"
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22:56 <Super_Duck> luke?
23:01 <spidey> who's that?
23:02  * luke-jr_work stabs spidey 
23:02  * spidey drop kicks luke-jr_work 
23:02  * luke-jr_work melts spidey 
23:02  * spidey steals luke's wife
23:02 <spidey> pwn
23:03  * luke-jr_work reports spidey to the cops
23:03 <guru3> haha
23:03  * spidey knows luke won't because he doesn't want to be in the "system"
23:03 <spidey> hey guru3 xD
23:03 <guru3> hey spidey
23:04 <luke-jr_work> spidey: I don't need to be in the system to report you
23:04 <spidey> you have to fill out a report :p
23:04 <luke-jr_work> not under my name :p
23:04 <guru3> lol
23:04 <spidey> anyways, i just woke up and i'm hungry
23:05 <spidey> so i'ma go make breakfast
23:05 <spidey> cause luke's a nub ;x
23:05 <guru3> im so glad i sleep when you're awake most of the time :D
23:05 <luke-jr_work> you think
23:11  * GodTodd wonders why the cops would care if anyone stole luke's wife.
23:11 <spidey> haha
23:11 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: kidnapping is illegal
23:11 <GodTodd> not if she went willingly
23:11 <spidey> luke-jr_work, well, you had to kidnap her, to get her
23:12 <spidey> it's the only way ;x
23:12 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: wouldn't happen
23:12 <luke-jr_work> spidey: nah
23:12 <spidey> man
23:12 <spidey> my popcicle :<
23:12  * GodTodd wonders how she would even be found if none of you are in "the system"
23:12 <spidey> yea
23:13 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: just need to use her documented "name"
23:13 <spidey> nub
23:13 <GodTodd> so...you two aren't married under your real names?
23:13 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: sure we are
23:13 <spidey> lol
23:13 <GodTodd> then you're in the system
23:14 <luke-jr_work> nope
23:14 <luke-jr_work> marriage isn't in the system
23:14 <GodTodd> ummm
23:14 <luke-jr_work> marriage is sacramental
23:14 <luke-jr_work> n00b
23:14 <GodTodd> so, you weren't legally married?
23:14 <luke-jr_work> legal "marriage" is by definition not marriage
23:14 <luke-jr_work> marriage cannot be dissolved
23:14 <spidey> luke-jr_work, you have a kid right?
23:14 <luke-jr_work> legal "marriage" can
23:15 <luke-jr_work> spidey: yep
23:15 <GodTodd> did you file a marriage license under your real names?
23:15 <luke-jr_work> nope
23:15 <luke-jr_work> under our documented "names"
23:15 <GodTodd> so, false information?
23:15 <spidey> so your fake name is your daughters father?
23:15 <luke-jr_work> spidey: nope
23:15 <spidey> then you're in the system
23:15 <luke-jr_work> oh well :p
23:16 <luke-jr_work> you're assuming she has a birth cert
23:16 <spidey> ...
23:16 <Vanhayes> luke-jr_work: isnt using fake names immoral?
23:16 <luke-jr_work> ROFL
23:16 <spidey> you're wrong
23:16 <spidey> veryy wrong
23:16 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:16  * GodTodd notes that luke's daughter is going to have a very messed up life.
23:16 <spidey> me too
23:17  * luke-jr_work notes at least she has a better chance of salvation than GodTodd's kids
23:17  * GodTodd also notes that the only people that hide from "the system" are people that have stuff to hide.
23:17 <spidey> heh
23:17 <spidey> he's a pussy
23:17  * GodTodd notes that I would prefer they don't have luke's brand of "salvation".
23:17 <spidey> and is hiding from the draft
23:18 <GodTodd> even though we haven't had one in his lifetime
23:18 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: that's pretty mean
23:18 <spidey> yup
23:18 <luke-jr_work> poor kids
23:18 <GodTodd> nah...at least my kids will be taught to think for themselves
23:18 <GodTodd> that's invaluable
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> no, she's fucked
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> there's numerous scientific information that shows that extreme religion in any house is bad for kids
23:18 <Lucifer_arma> just ask Manta sometime what it's like
23:19 <GodTodd> that and hiding her from "the system"
23:20  * GodTodd notes that luke is a hop, skip and a jump away from being the next david koresh
23:20 <spidey> who?
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> she's gonna have issues for the rest of her life, whether or not she seeks salvation
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> luke's daughter
23:20 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: perhaps extreme false religion
23:20 <GodTodd> oh, right...you guy's are young
23:20 <Lucifer_arma> no, even extreme true religion
23:21 <GodTodd> spidey: the guy in waco in 93 or so
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> she's got a dad who's so full of self-righteousness, even in his anger there will be no mercy, no forgiveness, nothing
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> so what will you do?  beat the devil out of her?
23:21 <spidey> lool
23:21 <Lucifer_arma> physical and emotional abuse are what happens in these houses
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> and whether the religion is true or not is irrelevant, the fact that you're a fanatic is the reason
23:22 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: shows what you know
23:22 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: weren't those the chicks in high school that were most likely to get pregnant early?
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: yep
23:22  * luke-jr_work notes he's not a fanatic :p
23:22 <GodTodd> bull
23:22 <spidey> are so
23:22 <Lucifer_arma> you are the definition of a fanatic
23:23 <luke-jr_work> nope
23:23 <luke-jr_work> #dict fanatic
23:23 <armabot> luke-jr_work: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: fanatic adj : marked by excessive enthusiasm for and intense devotion to a cause or idea; "rabid isolationist" [syn: {fanatical}, {overzealous}, {rabid}] n : a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm (as for a cause); "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"--Winston Churchill [syn: {fiend}]; gcide: Fanatic \Fa*nat"ic\, (6 more messages)
23:23 <GodTodd> yep...might as well be #dict luke
23:23 <luke-jr_work> note *excessive* enthusiasm
23:23 <GodTodd> yep
23:23 <GodTodd> i did
23:23 <luke-jr_work> and *can't* change his mind
23:23 <GodTodd> :)\
23:23 <Lucifer_arma> "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject"--Winston Churchill  <--- that *is* luke
23:24 <luke-jr_work> nope
23:24 <GodTodd> yep
23:24 <luke-jr_work> I change the subject all the time
23:24 <luke-jr_work> :p
23:24 <GodTodd> no
23:24 <GodTodd> you stop talking when you're proven wrong
23:24 <luke-jr_work> and I changed my mind when I converted
23:24 <GodTodd> there's a difference
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> you're how old?  how much of the world have yous een?
23:25 <luke-jr_work> I can't recall being proven wrong in #armagetron, at least not on that topic
23:25 <GodTodd> heh then you have a bad memory
23:25 <Lucifer_arma> the very fact that you require being "proven wrong" is the proof you need
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> you're a true-believer who wants to commit genocide against an entire group of people
23:26 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: nope
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> who the fuck is your daughter in the face of such belief?
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> she's nobody, you *will* abuse her.  She's too small right now, you'd have to be inarguably sick to have done anything yet, but you watch
23:26 <Lucifer_arma> when you see bruises on her that you put there, maybe then you'll think about it
23:26 <spidey> i'ma go play halo
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> but the emotional abuse you will inflict is far far worse than any physical abuse you may or may not inflict
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> and taht's a given
23:27 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: bs
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> I've seen it probably hundreds of times
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> there are *no* exceptions, and you do *not* know what you're tlaking about
23:27 <luke-jr_work> I doubt you've even seen a Catholic
23:27 <GodTodd> haha
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> you're too caught up i your idiot fanaticism to even think about what you'll do
23:27 <Lucifer_arma> my mother-in-law is also a true believer
23:27 <GodTodd> we grew up in a catholic town
23:27 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: shows what you know :)
23:27 <luke-jr_work> I doubt a Catholic town exists
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> I doubt your labels matter in this case
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> what matters is your attitude, and whether your a "Catholic", LDS, or fucking devil-worshipper makes no difference
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's your *attitude* that's going to fuck her over
23:28 <GodTodd> that's right...they were all like you, luke...so they must not have been catholic
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> and you won't look at it, or even admit there might be a problem with it
23:28 <luke-jr_work> out of the two of us, you have the worse attitude right now
23:28 <Lucifer_arma> whatever
23:29 <Lucifer_arma> problem solved, I've no reason to talk to that idiot anymore
23:29  * GodTodd notes that any "true" believer of anything will not be offended by others questioning said belief.
23:30 <Lucifer_arma> he won't even try to look at himself objectively
23:30 <luke-jr_work> Questioning is not the same as attacking
23:30 <GodTodd> no, luke...whenever someone questions you, you turn it into an attack
23:30 <luke-jr_work> no
23:30 <GodTodd> "oh look at the meanies persecuting the poor christian"
23:30 <GodTodd> yes
23:30 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: i agree
23:30 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom has asked questions, you have attacked
23:31 <GodTodd> how have i attacked?
23:31 <GodTodd> i've asked you questions you won't answer
23:31 <GodTodd> won't or can't
23:31 <GodTodd> for all you know, i want to convert and you are preventing me by not satisfying my curiosity
23:33 <GodTodd> oh, well, jesus will know that you didn't help a wayward soul
23:34 <luke-jr_work> Your_mom has asked questions, you have attacked and/or mocked
23:34 <GodTodd> oh, well, jesus will know that you didn't help a wayward soul
23:35 <luke-jr_work> there's only so much I can do
23:35 <GodTodd> i've asked you how evolution has been disproven...how is that attacking?
23:35 <GodTodd> unless the info doesn't exist?
23:35 <luke-jr_work> #last --from GodTodd --with evolution
23:35 <armabot> luke-jr_work: [23:37:32] <GodTodd> i've asked you how evolution has been disproven...how is that attacking?
23:35 <luke-jr_work> #last --from GodTodd --with evolution --nolimit
23:35 <armabot> luke-jr_work: [23:37:32] <GodTodd> i've asked you how evolution has been disproven...how is that attacking?
23:36 <luke-jr_work> ...
23:36 <luke-jr_work> stupid bot
23:37 <GodTodd> i've only attacked your stance after you've refused to prove your assertions
23:39  * GodTodd watches luke search for his "attack on luke" about evolution.
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23:40 <DrJoeTron> herp derp
23:40 <GodTodd> yo joe
23:40 <DrJoeTron> how goes it.
23:40  * GodTodd can rhyme too ;)
23:40 <DrJoeTron> haha
23:40 <GodTodd> luke is verbally abusing me :(
23:40 <GodTodd> beat him up
23:40 <GodTodd> heh
23:41 <DrJoeTron> I was reading
23:41 <DrJoeTron> the whole not legally married part
23:41 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: http://www.arn.org/blogs/index.php/3/2006/10/16/press_release_evolution_dismissed_at_eur
23:41 <GodTodd> heh
23:41 <DrJoeTron> do you not want tax right offs luke-jr_work ?
23:41 <luke-jr_work> DrJoeTron: you assume I pay taxes
23:42 <DrJoeTron> oh do I need to report you for tax evasion?
23:42 <luke-jr_work> you assume I don't pay taxes now :)
23:42 <luke-jr_work> you also assume taxes are legally required
23:43 <DrJoeTron> yeah, taxes are just things you have the option of paying
23:43 <GodTodd> that only shows evolution hasn't been empirically proven...now show that evolution is impossible
23:43 <luke-jr_work> legally
23:43 <GodTodd> which is what you assert
23:44 <DrJoeTron> Everytime I watch Moral Orel, I can't help but think of all of these conversations
23:44 <GodTodd> haha
23:44 <GodTodd> moral orel rocks
23:44 <DrJoeTron> did you see the one last night?
23:44 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: I'm looking for one that doesn't talk about the Bible
23:44 <GodTodd> nah...had to go to bed early :/
23:44 <DrJoeTron> This was one of the funniest
23:44 <luke-jr_work> there's a lot to sift through
23:45 <GodTodd> luke-jr_work: that would be preferable, yess
23:45 <GodTodd> yes*
23:45 <GodTodd> then we'll talk about dinosaur theories ;)
23:45 <luke-jr_work> dinosaurs are in the Bible :p
23:46 <GodTodd> where?
23:46 <DrJoeTron> He speaks of Anubis! God of the dead!
23:46 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: IIRC, in one the gospels
23:47 <luke-jr_work> could be wrong on that part
23:47 <GodTodd> you can't tell me which one?
23:47 <luke-jr_work> OT as well
23:47 <GodTodd> haven't you read it?
23:47 <DrJoeTron> OT was just retarded
23:47 <GodTodd> OT had incest and everything
23:47 <luke-jr_work> GodTodd: right, and you memorize every page of books you read?
23:47 <GodTodd> if it's the source of my beliefs, you bet i would
23:48 <luke-jr_work> Job 40
23:48 <luke-jr_work> The Bible isn't the source
23:48 <luke-jr_work> it's just a written record
23:48 <GodTodd> of?
23:48 <luke-jr_work> history
23:49 <luke-jr_work> more or less anyway
23:49 <GodTodd> heh
23:49 <GodTodd> right
23:49 <GodTodd> this passage:  15 "Look at the behemoth, [a]
23:49 <GodTodd>        which I made along with you
23:49 <GodTodd>        and which feeds on grass like an ox.?
23:49 <GodTodd> that says nothing of T Rex
23:50 <DrJoeTron> thats not a dinosaur
23:50 <luke-jr_work> the description foo
23:50 <DrJoeTron> something thats big and eats grass like an ox
23:50 <GodTodd> besides...this is a footnote: Job 40:15 Possibly the hippopotamus or the elephant
23:50 <DrJoeTron> I can think of a bunch of stuff
23:51 <luke-jr_work> either of those have tails like a cedar?
23:51 <luke-jr_work> IIRC, elephants at least have tiny tails
23:51 <GodTodd> did the trex eat grass?
23:51 <GodTodd> foo
23:51 <luke-jr_work> shrug
23:51 <DrJoeTron> they ate Job
23:51 <luke-jr_work> who said it was a trex
23:51 <GodTodd> then explain t rex
23:51 <GodTodd> that's my point
23:52 <GodTodd> it was a meat eater
23:52 <DrJoeTron> a scavanger
23:52 <luke-jr_work> so are lions
23:52 <luke-jr_work> what's your point?
23:52 <GodTodd> so, where's the description of the biggest meat eater in history?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> the Bible isn't an animal encyclopedia
23:53 <DrJoeTron> well it aught to be
23:53 <GodTodd> so, it's not all inclusive?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> ?
23:53 <GodTodd> ??
23:53 <luke-jr_work> =!
23:53 <GodTodd> so, it's not all inclusive?
23:53 <luke-jr_work> obviously, the Bible doesn't include everything
23:54 <luke-jr_work> I'm not specifically mentioned in the Bible
23:54 <luke-jr_work> neither are you
23:54 <luke-jr_work> we clearly exist
23:54 <GodTodd> then how do you know you are following all of god's rules?
23:54 <GodTodd> how do you know they're all in there?
23:54 <luke-jr_work> I didn't say they all are in the Bible
23:54 <luke-jr_work> Like I said, it's just one source of infallible truth
23:54 <GodTodd> so, it's a guessing game, or what?
23:54 <luke-jr_work> the primary source is the Deposit of Faith
23:55 <luke-jr_work> given by Christ to the apostles
23:55 <luke-jr_work> taught by Christ's Church since its beginning
23:59 <GodTodd> so, where is this deposit of faith kept?

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00:00 <luke-jr_work> in the constant teaching of the Catholic Church
00:00 <GodTodd> and how do you know that your church got the word from the apostles?
00:01 <luke-jr_work> the apostles were part of the Church
00:01 <GodTodd> your particular church building?
00:01 <guru3> how many were there when they were alive?
00:02 <GodTodd> 12, wasn't it?
00:02 <guru3> knew i shouldn't a said anything
00:02 <luke-jr_work> how many what?
00:02 <guru3> i have discussions like these
00:02 <guru3> *hate
00:02 <GodTodd> heh
00:03 <guru3> and so off to bed
00:03 <guru3> good night
00:03 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:04 <luke-jr_work> a constant isn't that difficult to keep track of :)
00:04 <luke-jr_work> well, easier than a variable
00:04 <GodTodd> and who is the head of the church...the one that keeps track of that constant?
00:05 <luke-jr_work> Christ is the invisible head
00:05 <GodTodd> so...he keeps track of it?
00:06 <luke-jr_work> there's nothing to track
00:06 <luke-jr_work> it's a constant
00:06 <GodTodd> <luke-jr_work> a constant isn't that difficult to keep track of :)
00:06 <GodTodd> isn't that what you said?
00:06 <luke-jr_work> exactly
00:06 <GodTodd> yet there
00:06 <luke-jr_work> it's simple to track, because there's no tracking involved
00:06 <GodTodd> 's nothing to keep track of
00:07 <GodTodd> therefore, no constant
00:07 <luke-jr_work> constants don't change
00:07 <luke-jr_work> #dict constant
00:07 <armabot> luke-jr_work: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: constant adj 1: persistent in occurrence and unvarying in nature; "maintained a constant temperature"; "a constant beat"; "principles of unvarying validity"; "a steady breeze" [syn: {changeless}, {invariant}, {steady}, {unvarying}] 2: continually recurring or continuing without interruption; "constant repetition of the exercise"; "constant chatter of (22 more messages)
00:07 <GodTodd> track can also mean "make sure of where it is"
00:07 <GodTodd> that's the meaning i was using
00:07 <luke-jr_work> #dict track
00:07 <armabot> luke-jr_work: wn, foldoc, gcide, and moby-thes responded: foldoc: track <storage> The part of a {disk} which passes under one read/write head while the head is stationary. The number of tracks on a disk surface therefore corresponds to the number of different radial positions of the head(s). The collection of all tracks on all surfaces at a given radial position is known a {cylinder} and each track is (32 more messages)
00:07 <luke-jr_work> #more
00:07 <armabot> luke-jr_work: divided into {sectors}. (1997-07-15); gcide: Track \Track\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {tracked}; p. pr. & vb. n. {tracking}.] To follow the tracks or traces of; to pursue by following the marks of the feet; to trace; to trail; as, to track a deer in the snow. [1913 Webster] It was often found impossible to track the robbers to their retreats among the hills and morasses. --Macaulay. [1913 Webster] 2. (Naut.) (31 more messages)
00:07 <luke-jr_work> #more
00:07 <armabot> luke-jr_work: To draw along continuously, as a vessel, by a line, men or animals on shore being the motive power; to tow. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Track \Track\, n. [OF. trac track of horses, mules, trace of animals; of Teutonic origin; cf.D. trek a drawing, trekken to draw, travel, march, MHG. trechen, pret. trach. Cf. {Trick}.] 1. A mark left by something that has passed along; as, the track, or wake, of a ship; the (30 more messages)
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00:08  * luke-jr_work doesn't see that
00:08 <GodTodd>  To follow the tracks or traces of;
00:08 <DrJoeTron> again
00:08 <DrJoeTron> guys
00:08 <DrJoeTron> HAIL XENU
00:08 <GodTodd> haha
00:09 <luke-jr_work> anyway, it can be located by either history or inductive reasoning
00:09 <luke-jr_work> possibly other means
00:09 <luke-jr_work> obviously, there's the small chance God could knock you off a horse
00:09 <luke-jr_work> but not many people get that
00:10 <GodTodd> god knocking me off a horse would show me the oral tradition?
00:11 <luke-jr_work> well, He wouldn't knock someone off a horse for no reason
00:11 <luke-jr_work> O.o
00:12 <GodTodd> i don't get how that shows me that the oral tradition taught by the church is the same that jesus handed over
00:13 <luke-jr_work> if it wasn't, then it wouldn't be the Church
00:13 <GodTodd> that's religious doubletalk
00:13 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:14 <GodTodd> anyway...i have an errand to run...bbl
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01:22 <spidey> like got pwnt
01:27 <spidey> http://neowin.net/forum/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=17&showentry=777
01:27 <spidey> hahaha
01:38 <DrJoeTron> heh
01:54 <spidey> woohoo
01:54 <spidey> ubuntu may not install
01:55 <spidey> but i'm 82% done with raw debian ;x
02:00 <[NP]Tangent> spidey
02:00 <[NP]Tangent> if you can't install Ubuntu
02:00 <[NP]Tangent> you fail at life
02:01 <spidey> tangent
02:01 <[NP]Tangent> now, if you can't use Ubuntu, that's another story
02:01 <spidey> stfu
02:01 <[NP]Tangent> because Ubuntu sucks
02:01 <spidey> um
02:01 <spidey> no
02:01 <spidey> ubuntu WON'T install
02:01 <[NP]Tangent> SuSE > Ubuntu
02:01 <spidey> it freezes on certain packages
02:01 <spidey> it's nothing related to me
02:01 <[NP]Tangent> oh
02:01 <[NP]Tangent> well in that case
02:01 <[NP]Tangent> I'm stumped
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02:01 <spidey> raw debian installed fine
02:03 <Lucifer_arma> I fail at life
02:03 <Lucifer_arma> I can't install Ubuntu
02:03 <spidey> though
02:03 <spidey> it's a netinstall
02:03 <spidey> it only installs what's needed for debian to urn
02:04 <spidey> i gotta install the rest
02:14 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails cage
02:14 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
02:14 <GodTodd> lobster cage sux
02:25 <GodTodd> geez, joe.  you're no fun :/
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02:32 <ghableska> hello
02:34 <GodTodd> yo
02:34 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:34 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
02:34 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (6:54 PM CST on December 18, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa. 
02:34 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 58.1°F (7:34 PM CST on December 18, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa. 
02:34 <ghableska> -
02:34 <ghableska> -_-
02:35 <GodTodd> i thought it was feeling a bit chilly out there
02:35 <ghableska> I just wish it would snow
02:35 <ghableska> it doesn't feel quite as cold when you can't see anything :P
02:38 <GodTodd> haha
02:38 <GodTodd> it snowed here a few weeks ago
02:38 <Vanhayes> #weather Saint john
02:38 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM AST; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 60 percent chance of rain showers early this evening and of flurries this evening. Clearing overnight. Low minus 7.; Tuesday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 km/h. High minus 4. Tuesday (1 more message)
02:39 <Vanhayes> #more
02:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: night..cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 km/h. Low minus 11.; Wednesday - Sunny. High minus 7.;
02:39 <ghableska> GodTodd: how long did the snow last?
02:39 <Vanhayes> well, I hope we get at least one more snow fall before christmas :/
02:40  * ghableska checks extended forecast
02:41 <ghableska> hmm
02:42 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: ping
02:43 <GodTodd> ghableska: about a day
02:43 <GodTodd> :)
02:43 <ghableska> heh
02:44 <GodTodd> it was only 1-2 inches
02:44 <ghableska> That's not too bad.
02:44 <GodTodd> nah...not for us transplants...the natives here were freaked tho
02:44 <GodTodd> heh
02:45 <ghableska> heh
02:45 <DrJoeTron> ghableska pong
02:45 <DrJoeTron> I found out why steam was down
02:45 <ghableska> huge storm, right?
02:45 <DrJoeTron> yeah
02:46 <ghableska> anyway, I've finally gotten it :)
02:46 <DrJoeTron> I forgot they're on the north west cost
02:46 <DrJoeTron> excellent!
02:46 <DrJoeTron> I actually started playing again
02:46 <DrJoeTron> soo much fun happened
02:46 <DrJoeTron> what with the team flashing
02:46 <ghableska> so far, I've managed to spawn a large bridge on top of me and have no clue why O_o
02:46 <ghableska> in garry's mod...
02:46 <DrJoeTron> and trying to act as a real terrorist
02:46 <ghableska> lol
02:47 <DrJoeTron> GIVE ME WHAT I WANT OR THESE PEOPLE DIE, THINK IM NOT BLUFFING?
02:47 <DrJoeTron> DrJoeTron has murdered a hostage.
02:47 <ghableska> :P
02:47 <DrJoeTron> WHO WANTS TO PLAY HERO!?
02:47 <DrJoeTron> it turns out no one cares :/
02:47 <ghableska> heh
02:47 <DrJoeTron> Ill be on tonight hopefully
02:48 <DrJoeTron> I just gotta run a few errands
02:48 <DrJoeTron> did you get hl2?
02:48 <ghableska> no
02:48 <ghableska> :P
02:48 <DrJoeTron> just cs:s and garrys mod 10
02:48 <ghableska> yeah
02:49 <ghableska> I'm not a fan of single player :)
02:49 <DrJoeTron> I'm not a whole lot
02:50 <ghableska> I suck at cs:s
02:50 <ghableska> the bots on easy mode killed me really fast
02:50 <DrJoeTron> you just don't know how to play yet
02:50 <ghableska> and I was hiding behind a crate too!
02:51 <DrJoeTron> but yeah
02:51 <DrJoeTron> everyone sucks at cs:s
02:51 <DrJoeTron> if they're good, they're cheating
02:51 <ghableska> lol
02:51 <DrJoeTron> :p
02:51 <ghableska> maybe it was because I didn't buy kevlar?
02:51 <DrJoeTron> always buy kevlar
02:51 <DrJoeTron> and flash bangs
02:51 <ghableska> mm
02:51 <DrJoeTron> to flash the team
02:51 <ghableska> and the hemlet?
02:51 <ghableska> *helmet
02:52 <DrJoeTron> yeah
02:52 <ghableska> but not the awp, right? :)
02:52 <DrJoeTron> well
02:52 <DrJoeTron> AWP is the most amazing gun
02:52 <DrJoeTron> because its so over powered
02:52 <ghableska> heh
02:53 <DrJoeTron> but remember
02:53 <DrJoeTron> do burst fires
02:53 <DrJoeTron> and if you can 
02:53 <ghableska> ok
02:53 <DrJoeTron> crouch
02:53  * ghableska has learned well
02:53 <DrJoeTron> the more you hold it down, the faster you die
02:53 <ghableska> ok
02:53 <DrJoeTron> and enable the game console
02:53 <ghableska> duh :P
02:53 <DrJoeTron> lets see
02:54 <DrJoeTron> net_graph 1 turns on the fps monitor
02:54 <DrJoeTron> cl_downloadfilter nosounds stop the download of shitty quake wav files from being donwloaded
02:55 <ghableska> ?
02:55 <DrJoeTron> yeah
02:56 <DrJoeTron> when you join servers
02:56 <ghableska> so it just sticks to the default sounds?
02:56 <DrJoeTron> yeah
02:56 <ghableska> ok
02:56 <DrJoeTron> people think its cool to add mp3's and crap
02:56 <ghableska> heh
02:56 <ghableska> so, mingebag = player 1?
02:57 <ghableska> ;)
02:57 <DrJoeTron> only in garrys mod
02:57 <ghableska> ok
02:57 <DrJoeTron> I dont have garrys mod 10
02:57 <DrJoeTron> I refuse to pay for it
02:57 <ghableska> lol
02:57 <ghableska> it's pretty fun...
02:57 <DrJoeTron> not 10 bucks fun
02:57 <DrJoeTron> especially when I had it for free
02:57 <ghableska> heh
03:13 <Lucifer_arma> quiet, you guys are making too much noise!
03:16 <DrJoeTron> brb
03:23 <DrJoeTron> ok
03:24 <DrJoeTron> ghableska wanna play?
03:25 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails cage
03:26 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: Players (6/7): Clown Shoes, E3D0K, holdensv6, Sharpest, Sharpie, sharps
03:26 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails tub
03:26 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Tub(TEST): Players (2/6): 50 sant, Gridpirate|MBC|
03:26 <DrJoeTron> :)
03:28 <DrJoeTron> ghableska I'm going to play some css, if you wanna join me, hit me up on friends
03:31 <GodTodd> if girls with big boobs work at hooters, where do girls with one leg work?
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> ummmmm
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> where?
03:34 <GodTodd> ihop
03:34 <GodTodd> :)
03:34 <Lucifer_arma> play crimson?
03:35 <GodTodd> can't :( have like 100 pages of reading tonight
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> and you're here telling us bad jokes?
03:35 <Lucifer_arma> :)
03:35 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: sorry, I can't today
03:37 <Vanhayes> #NIGHT
03:37 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
03:37 <Vanhayes> woops, caps
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03:38 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: yeah
03:38 <GodTodd> i'm a bad boy ;)
03:39 <GodTodd> damn europeans suck
03:39 <GodTodd> poor indians
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> what'd those damn europeans do this time?
03:43 <GodTodd> killed 90 to 95% of some tribes
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> they deserved it
03:45 <Lucifer_arma> they were given a choice, love Jesus or DIE COCKSUCKER!
03:45 <GodTodd> haha
03:46  * GodTodd is a native american.
03:46  * Lucifer_arma puts on a helmet so GodTodd (hi there!) doesn't scalp him
03:49  * GodTodd was born right in the middle of america.
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> and you like to sue?
03:50 <GodTodd> there's also a town in NE that bears my last name
03:50 <GodTodd> i love to sue
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> well, there was a tribe in the middle of america called the Sue
03:50 <Lucifer_arma> so, clearly, you must be american!
03:51 <GodTodd> heh...it is sioux and i was born where the omaha indians were :P south of the sue..er...sioux
03:51 <GodTodd> heh
03:52 <ghableska> Nebraska? psh
03:52 <GodTodd> interesting side note...sioux city airport desperately wants it's acronym changed
03:52 <GodTodd> it is currently SUX
03:53 <ghableska> hahaha
03:53 <ghableska> well, it's a fitting name :)
03:56 <GodTodd> screw this....you can tell this dude has never taught a wintermester course
03:57 <GodTodd> 3 tests (50 mult. choice, 5 essay), a 10-15 minute oral report, and an 800 word term paper
03:57 <GodTodd> first test is wednesday
03:57 <GodTodd> :/
04:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's only history, right?
04:01 <GodTodd> yeah...prerevolutionary, so i figure if there's one part i can bullshit, that's probably it
04:01 <GodTodd> george washington, thomas jefferson, paul revere, boston tea party :)
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> why isn't my cpu speed maxing out?
04:12 <GodTodd> dunno
04:23  * ghableska actually posted on the forums
04:39 <spidey> OK
04:39 <spidey> anyone know wtf the openssh package name is
04:39 <spidey> :|
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> openssh ?
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> holy shit, ghableska (hi there!) really did post!
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> aha, so, in the future I can tell my CPU speed by whether or not the fan is on :/
04:55 <spidey> hmm
04:57 <spidey> E: Package ssh has no installation candidate
04:58 <luke-jr> *open*ssh
04:58 <luke-jr> foo
04:59 <spidey> says the same
04:59 <spidey> foo
04:59 <luke-jr> shoulda used Gentoo? :p
04:59 <luke-jr> try ssh-server
04:59 <spidey> E: Couldn't find package openssh
05:00 <spidey> and that says command not found
05:00 <luke-jr> ...
05:01 <spidey> http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable
05:01 <spidey> that's what i used
05:01 <spidey> o.O
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05:14 <Lucifer_arma> can't you search for substrings in the package list?
05:14 <spidey> um
05:15 <spidey> apt-get update says some weird stuff o.O
05:15 <spidey> index files failed to download
05:15 <spidey> etc.
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05:18 <RickyRoss> LUKE
05:19 <RickyRoss> lµkê rê§þöñÐ, ÑõW
05:19 <spidey> ..
05:19 <RickyRoss> luke-jr
05:20 <RickyRoss> boo i'm not paying next month if you dont email me
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05:20 <GodTodd> another satisfied customer, apparently
05:20 <spidey> lol
05:21 <spidey> #later tell luke-jr <RickyRoss> luke-jr <RickyRoss> boo i'm not paying next month if you dont email me
05:21 <armabot> spidey: The operation succeeded.
05:22 <spidey> hm
05:22 <spidey> brb
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05:25 <GodTodd> <RickyRoss> luke-jr
05:25 <GodTodd> <RickyRoss> boo i'm not paying next month if you dont email me
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05:31 <ghableska> ...
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05:42 <GodTodd> #last --nolimit
05:43 <armabot> GodTodd: [05:33:30] <ghableska> ..., [05:27:37] <GodTodd> <RickyRoss> boo i'm not paying next month if you dont email me, [05:27:37] <GodTodd> <RickyRoss> luke-jr, [05:24:25] <spidey> brb, [05:24:24] <spidey> hm, [05:23:10] <spidey> #later tell luke-jr <RickyRoss> luke-jr <RickyRoss> boo i'm not paying next month if you dont email me, [05:22:36] <spidey> lol, [05:22:31] <GodTodd> another satisfied customer, (50 more messages)
05:47 <ghableska> #weather 50265
05:47 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 26.6°F (9:54 PM CST on December 18, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa. 
05:48 <ghableska> *yawn*
05:48 <ghableska> #night
05:48 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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06:30 <spidey> FINALLY
06:30 <spidey> i got it installed >.>
06:31 <spidey> Linux version 2.6.8-3-386 (pbuilder@dl360-g3) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Thu Sep 7 05:39:52 UTC 2006
06:31 <spidey> ;D
06:46 <spidey> luke-jr_work, ping
06:46 <luke-jr_work> ?
06:46 <luke-jr_work> what
06:47 <luke-jr_work> ...
06:47 <luke-jr_work> stfu
06:51 <spidey> http://www.armagetronad.net/downloads/beta.php
06:51 <spidey> luke-jr_work, ping
06:52 <spidey> The server at beta.armagetronad.net is taking too long to respond.
06:53 <luke-jr_work> yeah
06:53 <luke-jr_work> good for you
06:53 <spidey> ...
06:53 <luke-jr_work> figure out why 'reboot -f' doesn't do anything
06:53 <spidey> Broadcast message from root (pts/0) (Tue Sep 19 09:24:50 2006):
06:53 <spidey> The system is going down for reboot NOW!
06:53 <spidey> gay
06:53 <luke-jr_work> lol
06:54 <spidey> luke-jr_work, send me a autoinstaller :p
06:54 <luke-jr_work> ...
06:54 <luke-jr_work> wtf?
06:54 <spidey> autoinstall package?
06:54 <spidey> i can't get it off the beta site :/
06:55 <spidey> oh
06:55 <spidey> it's working now o.O
06:55 <luke-jr_work> lol
06:55 <luke-jr_work> autopkg sucks tho
06:59 <spidey> .....
07:00 <spidey> i really hate sourceforge
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> ack, you never realize how badly you need the selection color to be different from the background color until they're the same!
07:40 <spidey> omg
07:40 <spidey> i think i quit smoking
07:40 <spidey> i haven't even thought about smoking today
07:40 <spidey> or even i had cigarettes untill i looked behind the keyboard
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08:05 <luke-jr_work> lol
08:05 <luke-jr_work> spidey: wd
08:05 <luke-jr_work> now you have $50/mo more or smth
08:05 <luke-jr_work> :p
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08:43 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma 
08:43 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: 
08:43 <DrJoeTron> the little red hair girl was shown
08:43 <DrJoeTron> from peanuts
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> really?
08:45 <Lucifer_arma> was she swiss?
08:49 <Lucifer_arma> more importantly, was she hot?
08:56 <DrJoeTron> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/ItsYourFirstKiss.jpg
09:05 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma you tell me
09:08 <Lucifer_arma> sure
09:22 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2201080 The internet has some pretty horrible drawings onit
09:55 <guru3> yes
09:56 <guru3> so stop posting them here
09:58 <Lucifer_arma> that's it, DrJoeTron (hi there!) .  You're back on my no-clicky-linky list
10:00 <DrJoeTron> :(
10:04 <DrJoeTron> hey, does anyone here use adblock plus for firefox?
10:14 <DrJoeTron> bah, I cant stand this moinitor
10:15 <DrJoeTron> monitor*
10:15 <DrJoeTron> I really need to invest into a new one
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> nah
10:47 <Lucifer_arma> when I really hate an add, I just put it's domain in my hosts file and redirect it to some webserver under my own control
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> I do it occasionally when some ad server takes too long to respond to a simple request
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> they might control the ads, but I control my own dns!
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if people would pay for a service that lets them plug in web comics instead of ads
10:54 <DrJoeTron> haha
10:54 <DrJoeTron> instead of enlargement ads
10:55 <DrJoeTron> I get foxtrot instead
10:55 <DrJoeTron> how wonderful
10:55 <DrJoeTron> or calvin and hobbes :)
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12:39 <luke-jr_work> wee
12:39 <luke-jr_work> free wifi
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14:20 <DrJoeTron> herp derp
14:22 <spidey> nub
14:23 <DrJoeTron> whas happenin
14:23 <DrJoeTron> so Mian and I took the one city challenge on Defcon
14:23 <DrJoeTron> it's incredibly boring
14:23 <DrJoeTron> :0
14:24 <spidey> no really?
14:25 <spidey> i've gotten over 1k points on a 1 city 200m population game
14:25 <spidey> it's all about who launches first
14:26 <spidey> you know
14:26 <spidey> they need to make a dedicated server
14:26 <DrJoeTron> they seriously do
14:27 <DrJoeTron> my eyes are really dry :/
14:27 <DrJoeTron> I cant what to start playing cs:s with ghableska
14:27 <spidey> lol
14:27 <spidey> well
14:27 <DrJoeTron> especially since I found a new joy in that game
14:27 <spidey> you made me wanna play defcon
14:27 <spidey> so i'll bbl
14:28 <DrJoeTron> haha
14:31 <spidey> DrJoeTron, you should come play
14:31 <guru3> OMG A GIANT OUTLET
14:31 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.1 --nolimit
14:31 <DrJoeTron> buh?
14:31 <armabot> spidey: [08:04:33] <spidey> 	68.119.125.27, [08:04:26] <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.1, [06:39:11] <spidey> 	68.119.125.27, and [16:49:30] <spidey> 	68.119.125.27
14:31 <spidey> guru3, omg stick your finger in it :p
14:32 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 68.119.125.27 <-- if you wanna play defcon with me :D
14:32 <DrJoeTron> ko
14:32 <DrJoeTron> bah
14:32 <DrJoeTron> forget that
14:32 <DrJoeTron> I gotta update my drivers again to play
14:34 <spidey> ?
14:34 <spidey> gay
14:39 <spidey> rofl
14:39 <spidey> this guy is trying to talk me out of asia
14:39 <spidey> it's mine :|
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14:43 <DrJoeTron> haha
14:43 <DrJoeTron> I'm watching the goldeneye source trailer
14:43 <DrJoeTron> and I now I really cant wait till its release on christmas
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16:47 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: nice settings :)
16:50 <wrtlprnft> though some really run some sort of if(cycle rubber < 10, server quit, if(cycle rubber < 20, chat msg("Admin: can I have more rubber please?"), chat msg("Cool server"))) script :(
16:50 <wrtlprnft> i hope that's the correct io syntax and will work one day
17:24 <DrJoeTron> haha thank wrtlprnft 
17:24 <DrJoeTron> thanks**
17:25 <wrtlprnft> :)
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19:59 <spidey> ack
19:59 <spidey> i have a dentist app.
19:59 <spidey> :<
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20:03 <spidey> deja_vu, 
20:08 <spidey> bbl
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20:50 <deja_vu> spidey: 
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21:45 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:45 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
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22:05  * spidey yawns
22:07  * Vanhayes coughs
22:07 <spidey> deja_vu, 
22:07 <spidey> deja_vu, 
22:07 <spidey> deja_vu, 
22:09 <Lucifer_arma> qt4 is so awesome
22:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> q4 is awesome too
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> qt4 is awesomer
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> once you get your head wrapped around model/view, it's freaking cool
22:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> heh
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> all the headaches previously associated with gui programming and connecting it to data are *gone*
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> gonegonegone
22:10 <[Xpert]DarkStar> then i guess kde4 is gonna be cool too
22:10 <Lucifer_arma> lalalala
22:10  * Lucifer_arma dances
22:11 <spidey> ...
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22:11 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, stay off the drugs
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22:45 <deja_vu> hehe
22:45  * deja_vu got a qt4 book from the library just today ;)
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22:46 <ghableska> hi
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23:05 <ghableska> ...
23:05 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:05 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (3:54 PM CST on December 19, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa. 
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23:15 <ghableska> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=97CBB343-E7F2-99DF-3479369AA91D844B <-- so we can smell in three dimensions, it seems
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23:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, 2-dimensional smell would be pretty worthless, wouldn't it?
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23:16 <ghableska> :)
23:20 <spidey> i think it's funny
23:20 <spidey> when the dentist nerse is sitting there cramming a toothbrush in your mouth talking to ya and is like "you don't talk much do you?"
23:22 <ghableska> is the encarta atlas working for anyone? Because when try to use it, I get redirected here: http://encarta.msn.com/pointroll/pointrollads.htm?ad=111P692006103151127&pub=hotmlmsn&size=300_250&code=no&targ=_new&redir=$CTURL$&bu=0.12373562413913441
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23:30 <spidey> ack
23:30 <spidey> sourceforge sucks
23:30 <spidey> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=armagetronad&filename=armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package&use_mirror=superb-west
23:31 <spidey> how do i wget that? :/
23:34 <Compn> its easy
23:35 <Compn> http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/armagetronad/armagetronad-dedicated-0.3.0.i686-generic-linux-gnu.package
23:35 <Compn> 'direct link' on the page
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00:00 -!- super_duck [n=48c9461e@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC"]
00:00 <spidey> luke-jr_work, stfu
00:03 <luke-jr_work> ...
00:10 <spidey> stfu
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01:33 <luke-jr_work> ...
01:53 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
01:54 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || Wild West =Wild Fortress= (8 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (8 players) || The Lobster Cage (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || S u p e r D u c k N a n o F o r t r e s s !!! Now Complete! (4 players) || (1 more message)
01:54 <Vanhayes> #ping
01:54 <armabot> pong
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02:38 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping luke-jr_work ping
02:39 <Vanhayes> #list alias
02:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, rules, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
02:40 <Vanhayes> #poing
02:40 <armabot> piong
02:40 <Vanhayes> #uberinsult
02:40 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
02:41 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
02:41 <spidey> tar -jxvf unzips bzip2 right?
02:45 <spidey> nvm
02:45 <spidey> i didn't have bzip2 installe
02:45 <spidey> +d
03:41 <luke-jr_work> forgot the 'p' :p
04:15 <spidey> no
04:19 <Lucifer_arma> ok, now no-ip's pissed me off
04:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=122991#122991   <--- who let that fucking emo in here?
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04:37 <DrJoeTron> wowee
04:37 <DrJoeTron> Armagetrons first E/N thread
04:38 <DrJoeTron> oh dear
04:38 <DrJoeTron> this is really awkward to read
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> there's a part of me that wants to reply and tell hiim not to whine
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> I mean, how many of us don't know someone that "cut" their wrists?
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> oh well.  His girlfriend going to a treatment center is just going to fuck her up.  Treatment centers are businesses, run privately for profit (unlike most hospitals)
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> and like any business, they can't make any money only having new customers, they have to have repeat customers, which means they can't actually cure anybody
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> because curing patients would put them out of business!
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> so fucked up
04:41  * Lucifer_arma 's wife spent some time in treatment centers thanks to her religious-fanatic mother
04:42 <GodTodd> i dunno...i kinda liked the times that my ex's mom spent in the psych ward of the hospital ;)
04:43 <GodTodd> it was better than her bitching at me for stuff
04:43 <GodTodd> heh
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> psych ward of a regular hospital?
04:43 <DrJoeTron> and
04:43 <GodTodd> yeah
04:43 <DrJoeTron> also
04:43 <DrJoeTron> of all places
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> ahh, that's different, GodTodd (hi there!) .  Regular hospitals are not-for-profit
04:44 <GodTodd> hrmmm
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's privately-owned treatment centers that fuck people up
04:44 <DrJoeTron> I don't mean to sound like a troll here
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> like Charter, remember my bro going to Charter?
04:44 <DrJoeTron> but jesus christ
04:44 <GodTodd> yeah...i remember that
04:44 <DrJoeTron> do we...do we post kittens?
04:44 <GodTodd> charter just reeks tho
04:44 <DrJoeTron> everyone likes kittens
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=123041#123041
04:45  * Lucifer_arma has a low tolerance for emos.
04:45 <DrJoeTron> a HA HA
04:45 <DrJoeTron> my god
04:45 <DrJoeTron> thank YOU
04:45  * GodTodd goes emo.
04:46 <GodTodd> there's this guy named joe
04:46 <GodTodd> he keeps dumping me
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, GodTodd (hi there!) , I'm going to be in DFW on December 26th
04:46 <GodTodd> and i think i'm carrying his baby
04:46 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> leaving in the morning, picking up my mother-in-law, then coming back
04:46 <GodTodd> i need help
04:46 <DrJoeTron> dood.....
04:46 <GodTodd> ;)
04:47 <GodTodd> :( i'll be in alamo until the 29th or 30th
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> awwww
04:47 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd http://www.bladegash.net/forums/image.php?u=1850&dateline=1119030731i found your pix
04:47 <DrJoeTron> http://www.bladegash.net/forums/image.php?u=1850&dateline=1119030731 
04:48 <DrJoeTron> there we go
04:48 <DrJoeTron> I knew it looked familiar
04:48 <GodTodd> bahaha
04:48 <GodTodd> hey! i never released that for public consumption!
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> that's probably skullflame's girlfriend
04:49 <GodTodd> i'd do him/her/him/her/him
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> what if him/her is really only like 11?
04:49 <luke-jr_work> ...
04:49 <GodTodd> i'll turn catholic and enter the priesthood?
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> works
04:50 <GodTodd> :)
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: do you have a sister too?
04:51 <GodTodd> i have 2
04:51 <GodTodd> 'less you count steps
04:51 <GodTodd> (i don't) heh
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> trying to remember what was in your house when we were in high school :)
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> my wife just asked me how much family you have in alamo
04:52 <GodTodd> well....two of my siblings i didn't meet until 2003
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> #g 3*9 + 3*3 + 3*4
04:52 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (3 * 9) + (3 * 3) + (3 * 4) = 48
04:52 <GodTodd> in alamo, it's my mom and sister
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> #g 48/15
04:52 <GodTodd> jeremy moved to alabama of all places
04:52 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 48 / 15 = 3.2
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> aha, and the other 2 siblings were from your dad?
04:53 <GodTodd> yeah
04:54 <GodTodd> i grew up (and you might/would have met) one each of a brother and sister
04:54 <GodTodd> i only ever met the one of your siblings
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> I met jeremy when he ws like 5-6, maybe a little earlier.  I ws remembering a toddler in the house in addition to him
04:56 <GodTodd> yeah....jeremy is 21 now...so he would have been like 8 when we graduated....and jessica was 3 years younger
04:56 <GodTodd> is*
04:58 <GodTodd> so...the short answer is, i still have 3 family members in the shithole :)
05:04 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: is your mother in law from up here?
05:07 <DrJoeTron> wow luke
05:07 <DrJoeTron> heart warming post :D
05:07 <DrJoeTron> This is the best Christmas Ever!
05:11  * GodTodd hugs joe.
05:11 <DrJoeTron> :)
05:14  * GodTodd humps joe.
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: my wife has a ton of family up there
05:17 <GodTodd> ahhh
05:17 <GodTodd> one of these days i'll have to meet the woman who was nuts enough to help you breed :)
05:17 <GodTodd> heh
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> I gotta stand, that was a greasy shit I just took
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab
05:20 <GodTodd> a greasy shit? hmmm
05:25 <DrJoeTron> goldeneye source looks so fun
05:32 <Compn> goldeneye what?
05:32 <Compn> they ported it?
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> back
05:35 <DrJoeTron> sorta
05:36 <DrJoeTron> Compn its a half life 2 mod
05:37 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2RQkAWSu3g check it out
05:37 <DrJoeTron> the beta is released christmas
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05:58 <Lucifer_arma> heya Manta (hi there!) 
06:03 <Manta> howdy
06:04 <Manta> Just finished configuring konversation, loaded up suse 10.2 yesterday
06:04 <Manta> loving it so far
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> woo woo
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> er
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> I went back to Mandriva :/
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I just made my treeview show a date edit for the first column :)
06:18  * Lucifer_arma is working on his checkbook program again
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07:09 <Arma145> hello, whats this???? lol
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07:48 <wrtlprnft> #g 40/65.00769185258
07:48 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 40 / 65.00769185258 = 0.615311802
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08:00 <wrtlprnft> #g -697.250 - -661.750
08:00 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (-697.25000) - (-661.75000) = -35.5
08:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/fortress/circuit_board-1.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
08:12 <wrtlprnft> #g 65.00769185258 * 0.701
08:12 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 65.00769185258 * 0.701 = 45.570392
08:13 <wrtlprnft> #g 400 * 45.570392 / 40
08:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (400 * 45.570392) / 40 = 455.70392
08:21 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/fortress/circuit_board-2.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
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08:32 <Durka> yo manta
08:33 <Manta> hey
08:33 <Durka> ok did u get my PM
08:33 <Durka> or i dont think it was a PM
08:33 <Durka> i cant remember
08:33 <Durka> check my site
08:33 -!- Arma693 [n=caadb73a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
08:33 <Durka> i added a whole bunch of stuff for u
08:34 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/viewforum.php?f=42
08:34 <Durka> go there
08:34 <Manta> ok, I didn't ahve anything last time
08:34 <Manta> oh ok
08:34 <Manta> now I have to think of something to post
08:35 <Manta> lol
08:35 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/fortress/circuit_board-2.aamap.xml :)
08:35 <wrtlprnft> new CTWF map
08:36 <Durka> o lol i thought u said CTF
08:36 <Durka> thats nice
08:36 <Durka> manta: sticking on the matters related here -> http://durka.freehostia.com/viewtopic.php?t=103
08:36 <wrtlprnft> sort of building on http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/circuit_board-1.aamap.xml
08:37 <Manta> ah, thats nice
08:37 <Durka> holy shit thats crazy
08:37 <wrtlprnft> unplayable, unfortunately
08:37 <Durka> but not as crazy as -> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/tronsector-0.0.1.aamap.xml
08:37 <Durka> now that shit is unplayable
08:37 <Durka> i got 0 fps when i tried it
08:37 <Durka> =/
08:38 <Arma693> haha i like it
08:38 <Manta> what system do you have?
08:38 <wrtlprnft> probably a better one than me
08:38 <wrtlprnft> gotta play the tronsector map with 15 AIs
08:38 <Durka> lol
08:38 <Durka> i like ur inkscape one wrlt -> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/crazy/inkscapeMadness-4.aamap.xml
08:39 <Durka> wrtl*
08:39 <wrtlprnft> looks nice, I know. But most of the stuff in there is pointless for gameplay
08:39 <Arma693> CYA
08:39 <wrtlprnft> cya
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08:40 <wrtlprnft> note that both the circuit board ones were made w/ inkscape, too
08:40 <Durka> lol
08:40 <wrtlprnft> -the
08:40 <Durka> figures
08:40 <Durka> #quote get 50
08:40 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no Quote with id #50 in my database for #armagetron.
08:40 <Durka> i had this funny quote i got from here
08:40 <Durka> ill find the #
08:40 <Durka> #quote get 40
08:40 <armabot> Durka: Quote #40: "Mommy, my sister said I was a mean tattletale - Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:40 AM, December 16, 2006)
08:40 <Durka> #quote get 39
08:40 <armabot> Durka: Quote #39: "spidey sucks cow dick?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:47 AM, December 13, 2006)
08:40 <Durka> #quote get 38
08:40 <armabot> Durka: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
08:41 <Durka> #quote get 37
08:41 <armabot> Durka: Quote #37: "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:40 PM, December 09, 2006)
08:41 <Durka> #quote get 36
08:41 <armabot> Durka: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
08:41 <Durka> well...thats not it
08:41 <Durka> =/
08:41 <Durka> #quote get 41
08:41 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no Quote with id #41 in my database for #armagetron.
08:41 <Durka> :[
08:41 <Durka> 0.2.8.2.1.2.8.0.2.4.6.1 has been released! | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Anyone else think we have too many version #s? | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html	by luke-jr_work on 21:36
08:41 <Manta> sorry took me forever to load with my conection
08:42 <wrtlprnft> haha
08:42 <Manta> team sumo isn't getting used?
08:42 <Durka> <Durka> manta: sticking on the matters related here -> http://durka.freehostia.com/viewtopic.php?t=103
08:42 <Durka> nope
08:42 <Durka> we should change it to the config i have for fortress/sumo
08:43 <Durka> switches every match
08:43 <Durka> but u can change when it switches
08:43 <Durka> i think every 2 matches would be best
08:43 <Durka> gets things interesting
08:43 <Manta> would that be with teams?
08:43 <Durka> but my config for it is assuming ur server is 0.3 which it isnt
08:43 <Durka> well u could but right now its just fortress then sumo
08:43 <Manta> no I had 0.3 crash
08:43 <Durka> i could do normal fort then sumo then wild fort then team sumo
08:44 <Durka> or we could have 5 rotating things
08:44 <Durka> CTF in there too
08:44 <Durka> it will be crazy
08:44 <Manta> couldn't reproduce it though, but it's a production server so I shouldn't run beta software on it
08:44 <Durka> well i just used the 0.3 to get map rotatong
08:44 <Durka> rotation*
08:44 <Durka> but in this case it was config rotation
08:45 <Durka> it wouldnt be hard to do
08:45 <Manta> hmmm
08:45 <Durka> shall we just start it as fortress and sumo
08:45 <Durka> or go for it all at once
08:45 <Durka> like fortress and sumo and team sumo and wild fort and nano fort and ctf
08:45 <Manta> I don't have a shooting patch for 0.3
08:45 <Durka> changes each hmatch
08:45 <wrtlprnft> Manta: doesn't exist
08:45 <Durka> we dont need shooting
08:46 <Manta> well ctf
08:46 <Durka> wow ive typed a lot of lines in the past minute
08:46 <Durka> -.-
08:46 <Manta> ah thats explains google missing it, ;)
08:47 <Manta> well anyway for you to do the rotations without 0.3?
08:47 <Durka> wrtl: look what this dude said whhen i showed the ppl on my sites the global stats
08:47 <Durka> he got scared -> http://durka.freehostia.com/viewtopic.php?p=958#958
08:48 <Durka> manta: u just need config rotation
08:48 <Durka> and i need to send u 2 files
08:48 <Durka> fortress.cfg and sumo.cfg
08:48 <Durka> it makes the switch flow
08:48 <wrtlprnft> hehe
08:48 <wrtlprnft> well, if you don't want to be followed, don't use the same nick all the time
08:48 <Durka> lol
08:48 <Durka> i have so many nicks
08:48 <Durka> one is wrtlpwned...me
08:49 <wrtlprnft> everyone can query the servers
08:49 <wrtlprnft> x_X
08:49 <Durka> jk
08:49 <Durka> but its true
08:49 <Manta> I use Manta fan #24
08:49  * Durka hated when wrtl was following him in chico styball for like 5 minutes
08:49 <wrtlprnft> :P
08:49 <Durka> lol
08:49 <Durka> ok so manta, does it sound like a good idea?
08:49 <wrtlprnft> anyways, I'm not publishing when someone played, and I won't
08:50 <wrtlprnft> and on what servers
08:50 <Durka> i can tell when u last played wrtl
08:50 <Manta> styball is unplayable on dialup, I only see the ball every 3 seconds
08:50 <wrtlprnft> except for #lastseen
08:50 <Durka> #last seen wrtl
08:50 <armabot> Durka: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
08:50 <Durka> ...
08:50 <Durka> o oops
08:50 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen wrtlprnft 
08:50 <Durka> #lastseen wrl
08:50 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft |mbc| has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 26 minutes ago.
08:50 <Durka> 26 minutes ago +_O u addict
08:50 <wrtlprnft> was testing the new map
08:50 <Durka> sure sure
08:50 <Durka> #lastseen durka
08:51 <Durka> ¥_¥
08:51 <Durka> ...
08:51 <wrtlprnft> must have been quite a while
08:51 <wrtlprnft> i can hear it searching
08:51 <armabot> Durka: timed out
08:51 <armabot> Durka: not Durka has last been seen on  Wild West  =Multi Team Fortress= 25 minutes ago.
08:51 <Durka> lol
08:51 <Durka> #lastseen akrud
08:51 <wrtlprnft> now who's the addict?
08:51 <armabot> Durka: Akrud has last been seen on |/| Ghostland |\| 46 minutes ago.
08:51 <Durka> thats what it was
08:52 <Durka> nope i was in wild west...
08:52 <Durka> #lastseen Durkå
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> #q
08:52 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #34: "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady" (added by spidey at 01:17 AM, November 11, 2006)
08:52  * Durka Lucifer_arma 
08:52 <Lucifer_arma> #q
08:52 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> #q
08:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
08:53 <armabot> Durka: timed out
08:53 <Durka> #lastseen durka
08:53 <armabot> Durka: not Durka has last been seen on  Wild West  =Multi Team Fortress= 27 minutes ago.
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> #q
08:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #27: "thats like asking if vegetarians can eat animal crackers -- DrJoeTron" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:12 AM, October 26, 2006)
08:53 <Durka> #lastseen wrtl
08:53 <armabot> Durka: wrtlprnft |mbc| has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 29 minutes ago.
08:53 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen luci
08:54 <Durka> #lastseen hi_wrtl
08:54 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: lucia has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 1 days 5 hours 52 minutes ago.
08:54 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen lucif
08:54 <Durka> #lasttime when luci annoyed durka
08:54 <Durka> or other way around
08:55 <Durka> just a questioon wrtl: why do u have 2 identical 32 player fortress servers running?
08:55 <armabot> Durka: timed out
08:55 <Durka> why not 1 fortress and 1 32 player sumo :)
08:55 <wrtlprnft> Durka: uh, do i?
08:55 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [666]AdyLucifer has last been seen on -=|LoD|=- Sumo Temporary Server 2 days 8 hours 41 minutes ago.
08:55 <wrtlprnft> ah, yeah
08:55 <wrtlprnft> one has turnament settings
08:55 <wrtlprnft> but they aren't identical
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> #q
08:56 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #13: "<hang3r> How many microbuscity's does it take to change a light bulb?" (added by hang3r at 07:41 AM, March 31, 2006)
08:56 <Lucifer_arma> #night
08:56 <armabot> Good night Lucifer_arma!
08:56 <Durka> ya but why dont u just put the tourney one up when there actually is a tourney
08:56 <Durka> its useless now...
08:56 <wrtlprnft> lazyness?
08:56 <Durka> perhaps
08:56 <Durka> make it sumo though...that would be fun
08:57 <wrtlprnft> i'll think about it, don't have time right now
08:57 <Durka> Fortress Café and Sumo Café :)
08:57  * Durka pokes manta
08:57 <Durka> where did u go
08:58 <Manta> trying to keep up with all this typing
08:58  * Manta setup dual monitors setup today
08:58  * wrtlprnft types more to confuse Manta 
08:58 <Durka> wow ------> http://sumeetjain.com/treasures/2006/04/14/the-ping-pong-ball-bounces-into-the-cup/
08:58 <Durka> check that out ^^^
08:58 <wrtlprnft> *insert more useless typing here*
08:59 <Durka> this is actually cool
08:59 <Durka> imagine how long it took them to do that o_O
09:00 <Manta> uggg more videos
09:00  * Manta waits
09:00  * Durka hopes everyone is watching or else....he will activate Luci's annoy Luke-Jr. script
09:01 <Durka> manta: do u want me to send u the files?
09:01 <Manta> well I'm kind of busy this week but send me the config scripts
09:01 <Durka> brb
09:01 <Durka> ok u will have to modify them though
09:01 <Manta> I'll work on getting them going
09:01 <Durka> they only work for 0.3
09:01 <Durka> figure out how to do config file rotation
09:01 <Durka> instead of map rotation
09:01 <Manta> hmm ok, well make notes then
09:01 <Durka> brb though
09:06 <Manta> first half of that video is great, loading the rest
09:10 <Durka> ok back
09:11 <Durka> the second half is amazing
09:12 <Manta> fort & sumo, what else are you thinking>
09:12 <Manta> ?
09:16 <Durka> for now just that
09:16 <Durka> how about making this ur server url
09:16 <Durka> http://wildwest.notlong.com
09:16 <Durka> test it out
09:20 <Manta> ok that works
09:20 <Manta> are serverstats down?
09:21 <Durka> idk i was just looking at that
09:22 <Durka> i think its the url.to service
09:22 <Durka> try http://lod.url.to
09:22 <Durka> hmm seems fine
09:22 <Durka> weird...
09:22 <Durka> try my other stats -> http://teamsumo.notlong.com
09:23 <Durka> must be the 4000webs server
09:23 <Durka> down temporarily obviously
09:23 <Durka> im gonna try and move my server stats and incorporate them on my forum
09:23 <Durka> yep its the 4000webs server :[
09:23 <Manta> alright
09:23 <Durka> down temporarily
09:24 <Manta> anything ever happen with the worlcup?
09:26 <Durka> twc? no...but everything about it still works...u just need the "backdoor" links -> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/2nd_Tron_World_Cup
09:26 <Durka> i had to update all those links since they tried to close down their site
09:27 <Durka> lol
09:27  * Durka really needs a good IRC client for mac
09:27 <Durka> Fire is shit and im using the thing from my site which puts everything in German :[
09:27 <Manta> osx10?
09:28 <Durka> quote: "*** Arma693 hat den Raum #armagetron betreten"
09:28 <Durka> wtf????? i dont wtf that says -.-
09:28 <Manta> lol 
09:28 <Durka> ya os 10
09:29 <Manta> should be able to run about anything on it then
09:29 <Manta> hardly use irc so can't say
09:30 <Manta> I'll put in the new url when I get time to work on the server again
09:30 <Manta> how is the ctf working?
09:31 <Durka> good
09:31 <Durka> ill send u the config files in a sec
09:45 <Durka> ok check ur PMs on my site
09:45 <Durka> i sent u them :)
09:45 <Durka> tell me if you got them [all 4 files]
09:46  * Durka waits
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14:53 <madmax|pt> #weather lppt
14:53 <armabot> madmax|pt: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 50.0°F (1:30 PM WET on December 20, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa. 
14:54 <madmax|pt> #cnn lppt
14:54 <armabot> madmax|pt: Error: No such location could be found.
14:54 <madmax|pt> #cnn lisbon
14:54 <armabot> madmax|pt: The current temperature in Lisbon, Portugal is 48.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 66%. Wind: NNE at 7 mph (11 km/h).
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16:58 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/fortress/circuit_board-3.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
17:02 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/fortress/circuit_board-4.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
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17:19 <Lucifer_arma> #cnn 78717
17:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Round Rock, TX is 59.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Wind: WNW at 18 mph (29 km/h).
17:20 <spidey> #weather 38256
17:20 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 52.2°F (10:20 AM CST on December 20, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa. 
17:21 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
17:37 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/fortress/circuit_board-6.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
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18:15 <xfroggy> Anyone alive?
18:18 <spidey> we're zombies
18:19 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6541 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
18:19 <armabot> armagetronad: - Cast to GLint*
18:19 <armabot> armagetronad: - Adjusted section styling in docs
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> I'm alive, but I've been eating so much greasy food lately that I can sit after shitting, so I'll bbiab
18:24 <Lucifer_arma> *can't
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19:50 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmA9yb7_JVI&eurl= this look like it would be pretty fun.
20:05 <DrJoeTron> wow
20:05 <DrJoeTron> there are alot of servers on armagetron now
20:08 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:08 <wrtlprnft> more than players most of the time
20:08 <DrJoeTron> hahaha yeah
20:09 <luke-jr_work> lol
20:09 <luke-jr_work> well, like I said, I think we need to get more players :p
20:09 <luke-jr_work> someone make up banners or pamphlets or something people can hang up :;p
20:09 <DrJoeTron> I could probably
20:10 <DrJoeTron> Bored durring your study time?
20:11 <DrJoeTron> Big brother won't give you the password to his steam account?
20:11 <DrJoeTron> Armagetron is for you! 
20:12 <DrJoeTron> (Clan people need not apply) :p
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> no emos either!
20:19 <Lucifer_arma> if I wnat to hear whining, I'll tell my daughter to clean her room
20:20 <xfroggy> LOL
20:21 <DrJoeTron> hahah
20:21 <xfroggy> why every damn distro comes with the oldest tron version as default?
20:22 <wrtlprnft> x_X
20:22 <wrtlprnft> some are still stuck with 0.2.7.1 or 0.2.6 if you install armagetron instead of armagetronad
20:22 <xfroggy> yea, 2.7, everywhere I look
20:35 <DrJoeTron> oh awesome
20:36 <DrJoeTron> waynes world in spanish
20:44 <luke-jr_work> xfroggy: what OS?
20:44 <luke-jr_work> xfroggy: you mean 0.2.7 BTW
20:48 <xfroggy> im gentoo myself
20:48 <xfroggy> and portage has 2.7 (0.2.7) also
20:49 <xfroggy> plus slax live
20:49 <xfroggy> suse i believe, havent tried it in a while, dont remember atm what else 
20:53 <xfroggy> debian also^^
20:56 <xfroggy> Anyone can explain whats FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE is
21:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:05 <wrtlprnft> for every fortress zone there's a “conquest status”, which goes from 1 (conquered) to 0 (not conquered at all)
21:05 <wrtlprnft> that var always decreases by FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE per second
21:08 <xfroggy> ty
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21:14  * Lucifer_emo cries
21:14 <Lucifer_emo> er, I already hate this
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21:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr_work] by ChanServ
21:29 -!- luke-jr_work changed the topic of #armagetron to: 0.2.8.2.1 has been released! | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html | Gentoo? layman -a armagetron
21:30 -!- mode/#armagetron [-oo luke-jr_work mkzelda] by luke-jr_work
21:32 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:32 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: note that /msg chanserv op #armagetron -mkzelda does the same
21:34 <luke-jr_work> it changes the topic? wow
21:34 <luke-jr_work> must have some impressive mind reading code
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21:48 <Lucifer_arma> I want to write a whiny song about the bastards that made whiny music popular
21:49 <Lucifer_arma> could I get thousands of emo chicks to want to sleep with me if I did that?
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> The Minneapolis Star-Tribune is reporting that a seller of "natural male enhancement" products sued after a fraud indictment based on evidence gleaned from his electronic mail.
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> ok, who's the villain now?
22:03 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12-240-54-90.client.mchsi.com] has joined #Armagetron
22:03 <ghableska> hello
22:03 <ghableska> #weather 50265
22:03 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 35.6°F (1:54 PM CST on December 20, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa. 
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22:22 <Compn> #serverinfo cafe
22:22 <armabot> Compn: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): 12-gauge, free kill, G5, gArIsImO, I <3 U, IKEA, Kamakazi, madmax, meteor [--=*], Pez, Player 1, SageLord, Seraph, wrtlpwnd |me|, ~*SP*~Sasha, ~*SP*~Speed
22:22 <Compn> :)
22:28 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen emo
22:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: demomatt |mbc| seems to be on  Wild West  =Wild Fortress= right now.
22:43 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: lol
22:43 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails ess caf
22:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Players (16/20): 12-gauge, ct|SeBoL158, Ðûqkå, f, G5, I/O Bus, Kamakazi, madmax, meteor [--=*], newbÎd, Pez, Seraph, ~ X ~, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ~*SP*~Sasha, ~*SP*~Speed
22:43 <wrtlprnft> gonna put that limit of 20 there, more just isn't playable
22:43 <ghableska> aww
22:44 <wrtlprnft> the server should be able to handle it
22:45 <wrtlprnft> but the average client doesn't, which leads to masses of people leaving if it gets too full
22:45 <wrtlprnft> that makes the game highly unstable, for fortress you need people who stay a while so it's fun
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23:26 <ghableska> haha
23:26 <ghableska> http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/12/dweebs_horndogs.php
23:27 <wrtlprnft> :P
23:28 <ghableska> hmm, although after looking at the comments near the bottom...
23:28 <wrtlprnft> i wonder what people search on MSN
23:28 <ghableska> heh
23:28 <wrtlprnft> windows
23:28 <wrtlprnft> microsoft
23:28 <wrtlprnft> bug
23:28 <wrtlprnft> M$ sucks
23:28 <wrtlprnft> virus
23:28 <wrtlprnft> worm
23:28 <ghableska> crashing
23:28 <wrtlprnft> word
23:29 <ghableska> although I don't get why people would search when they could just type in a web address
23:29 <wrtlprnft> ?
23:29 <ghableska> for things like wikipedia or myspace...
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23:30 <spidey> nub
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23:38  * ghableska_ reminds self not to shut down firewall
23:43 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:43 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
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23:45 <spidey> ghableska, wrtlprnft Lucifer_arma luke-jr_
23:45 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
23:45 <ghableska_> spidey
23:45 <spidey> s3d?
23:45 <ghableska_> no.
23:45 <spidey> why
23:46 <ghableska_> after the 21st, I'll be available :P
23:46 <spidey> why
23:46 <ghableska_> break starts tomorrow :D
23:46 <spidey> why
23:46 <spidey> ghableska_, come on teamspeak
23:47 <ghableska_> why
23:47 <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.1 --nolimit
23:47 <armabot> spidey: [14:34:05] <spidey> DrJoeTron, 68.119.125.27 <-- if you wanna play defcon with me :D, [14:33:35] <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.1 --nolimit, [08:04:33] <spidey> 	68.119.125.27, and [08:04:26] <spidey> #last --from spidey --with 68.1
23:47 <spidey>  68.119.125.27  <-- ip
23:47 <ghableska_> spidey: first I'll have to reinstall it :P
23:47 <spidey> ...
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00:13 <Lucifer_arma> I"m having mouse problems, will fix them soon :/
00:13 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, set out some rat poisoning
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00:50 <ghableska_> #weather 50265
00:50 <armabot> ghableska_: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (4:54 PM CST on December 20, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa. 
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01:04 <Lucifer_arma> there, mouse fixed (replaced)
01:04 <ghableska> :)
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01:33 <DrJoeTron> ghableska word
01:33 <ghableska> hmm?
01:34 <DrJoeTron> css?
01:35 <ghableska> no, tomorrow
01:35  * ghableska sucks at it anyway
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01:48 <DrJoeTron> everyone does
01:49 <ghableska> everyone gets killed by a bot with a pistol, set on easy mode?
01:51 <DrJoeTron> the bots rock man
01:51 <ghableska> heh, alright
01:55 <DrJoeTron> anyone know the color code for green?
02:04 <GodTodd> in?
02:06 <GodTodd> on?
02:06 <GodTodd> for?
02:07 <GodTodd> >-;;,ccc3?
02:07 <ghableska> heh
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> I disagree!
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> most of the time, suicide is the best option *after* they take the flag from you
02:20 <Lucifer_arma> while your flag is safe, keep defending it and try to rack up kills.  After they take it, kill yourself!  Worst you give them is points for one run and points for your death.
02:29 <spidey> but that's gay
02:29 <spidey> if they can get the flag from you you should try to kill them, not kill yourself so they can't score
02:29 <spidey> i mean if everyone did that, noone would win the match
02:53 <spidey> #ping
02:53 <armabot> pong
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03:39 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
03:39 <armabot> Vanhayes: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9 players) || Super Duck Hyphy N a n o Fortress!! (8 players) || MicroBusCity.com (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (7 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (6 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (6 players) || |VPF| Clan Server (4 players) || G-Land (A (1 more message)
03:42 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: I was talking about when you're by yourself and the other team is full up
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> the question is, do you respawn your team or not?  I say no, concede the round (especially if you're ahead) unless you're waaaay behind
03:43 <spidey> ...
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> you have to be behind enough to make it worthwhile to give up 2-3 flag runs while you respawn your team
03:43 <spidey> the flag is still beside the respawn zone yes?
03:44 <spidey> you only give up 1 flag run
03:44 <spidey> and yes, it's worthwhile if your teammates are half-way decent
03:44 <spidey> otherwise i wouldn't waste the time either
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03:48 <Your_mom_arma> hey
03:49 <Your_mom_arma> luke whats with the link?
03:51 <Your_mom_arma> Why hasnt the "christmas" thread been locked/deleted?
03:52 <ghableska> lol
03:59 <[dlh]> hey Your_mom_arma 
04:00 <Your_mom_arma> hey nemo
04:01 <[dlh]> want to play some HTF on In Limbo?
04:01 <Your_mom_arma> okay
04:07 <[dlh]> ok, maybe not. hehe
04:13 <[dlh]> #serverdetails Lobster Tub
04:13 <armabot> [dlh]: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “lobster tub” at the moment, sorry.
04:14 <[dlh]> DrJoeTron: start the tub :|
04:14 <Your_mom_arma> we could go to swampys new server, never been there and eggcozy is ther atm
04:14 <[dlh]> yeah, I'm there now :)
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04:29 <Your_mom_arma> hey fonk
04:29 <Fonkay> heya moms
04:30 <Fonkay> been a bit
04:30 <Vanhayes> hey Fonkay, merry christmas
04:30 <Fonkay> hey hayes, merry xams to you
04:30 <Fonkay> xmas even
04:31 <Vanhayes> heh
04:34 <spidey> xams!
04:34 <spidey> merry xams Fonkay
04:34 <spidey> ;p
04:34  * GodTodd has an xam tomorrow :/
04:35 <spidey> lol
04:35 <ghableska> in what?
04:35 <GodTodd> us history
04:35 <spidey> history is easy
04:35 <Vanhayes> heh I read that as us history not U.S
04:36 <GodTodd> heh
04:36 <Fonkay> me doesn't take xams
04:37 <Vanhayes> high school exams are after christmas, so I dont have to worry about them for a few weeks
04:37 <Compn> high school exams?
04:37 <Compn> huh? :P
04:37  * Compn is a dropout
04:38 <Fonkay> I'm done the HS bullshit... but my course that I'm in right now doesn't require exma
04:38 <Fonkay> god damnit
04:38 <Fonkay> exams
04:39 <GodTodd> i'm taking a 2 week crash course in us history...not like i haven't studied it enough before :/
04:40 <Fonkay> stupid US their history sucks
04:40 <GodTodd> our history rocks :P
04:40 <spidey> canadians are worse
04:40 <spidey> it's like
04:40 <Vanhayes> ours is pretty simple to remember
04:40 <spidey> "then one day...we're invaded by french people"
04:41 <Fonkay> we kicked your ass
04:41 <GodTodd> ummm...when did canada kick our ass?
04:41 <spidey> who wants a icecap anyways
04:41 <Vanhayes> "then another day we burnt down the americans' whitehouse"
04:41 <Fonkay> 1812
04:41 <Your_mom_arma> i dont remember a war against canada
04:41 <spidey> didn't they kick "britians" ass?
04:41 <Vanhayes> uh no
04:41 <Fonkay> canada
04:42 <Fonkay> americans like to forget that piece of history
04:42 <spidey> war of 1812 was between britian and america
04:42 <Compn> they taught us canada burned down the white house
04:42 <Compn> in 1 minute
04:42 <spidey> lol
04:42 <Compn> then never said another thing about it
04:42 <Fonkay> we did
04:42 <Vanhayes> we are humble like that
04:42 <Compn> in 12 years of us schools ;p
04:42 <GodTodd> you guys wouldn't have done shit without england there :P
04:43 <Compn> usa is the country that does not learn from its mistakes
04:43 <Compn> so come and burn it down again :d
04:43 <Vanhayes> one day..... one day
04:43 <Fonkay> wouldn't be too hard
04:43 <GodTodd> bring it on, frozen, funny-talkers :D
04:43 <GodTodd> heh
04:43 <Vanhayes> just for the hell of it, ill get the newfies to do it
04:44 <Fonkay> what's he talking aboot, funny talkers eh?
04:44 <spidey> aboot!
04:44  * GodTodd notes that burning a building doesn't really constitute "kicking our ass"
04:44 <GodTodd> :P
04:44 <spidey> one boot won't do no good though...
04:44 <Fonkay> no, but winning the war does
04:44 <Compn> when is canada going to kick quebec out?
04:44 <spidey> didn't win
04:45 <Fonkay> oh silly americans...
04:45 <Fonkay> we're not kicking quebec out, they're trying to leave, they're just too poor to do it alone
04:45 <GodTodd> With the defeat of Napoleon in 1814, and the stalemate on the battlefields, both nations agreed to a peace that left the prewar boundaries intact. Canadians remember the war as a victory in avoiding conquest by the Americans, while Americans celebrated a new spirit of national unity.
04:45 <Your_mom_arma> why does everyone have to pick on us?
04:45 <GodTodd> stalemate == tie :P
04:45 <Fonkay> cause it's so easy moms
04:46 <GodTodd> cuz everyone hates the cool kids
04:46 <spidey> lol
04:46 <Fonkay> most of us don't give a shit what you say about canada, but most of you get really defensive
04:46 <Your_mom_arma> we're a big target, go pick on russia
04:46 <GodTodd> it's called national pride :D
04:46 <Fonkay> and we get a rise out of fucking with you
04:47 <GodTodd> heh
04:47 <GodTodd> hey, you guys have to have *some*thing to do, eh? ;)
04:47 <Vanhayes> its true, so easy to do, and so much enjoyment doing it
04:47 <spidey> must suck in the summer
04:47 <spidey> or are your igloos plastic?
04:47 <GodTodd> 'sok, i'm not in the US anyway...i'm in texas ;)
04:48 <spidey> yea
04:48 <spidey> todd's a mexican
04:48 <Fonkay> oh lord
04:48 <GodTodd> spidey: summer there == 45 degrees
04:48 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:48 <spidey> forgot about that
04:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM AST; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness this evening. Wind becoming southwest 30 km/h late this evening. Temperature rising to plus 4 by morning.; Thursday - Cloudy with sunny periods. 30 percent chance of rain showers or wet flurries in the (1 more message)
04:48 <Fonkay> #more
04:48 <armabot> Fonkay: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
04:48 <Fonkay> god damnit
04:48 <Vanhayes> #more
04:48 <armabot> Vanhayes: morning. Wind southwest 30 km/h becoming west 30 gusting to 60 in the morning. Temperature steady near plus 5. Thursday night..clearing in the evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40. Low minus 7.; Friday - Sunny. High minus 3.;
04:49 <Vanhayes> heh
04:49  * Fonkay sucks at this tech crap
04:49 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:49 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 49.8°F (9:49 PM CST on December 20, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa. 
04:49 <Vanhayes> its going to be a green christmas this year
04:49 <Your_mom_arma> everyone likes to make fun of america cause every other country does it, but face it you guys need us
04:49 <spidey> operating armabot is hardly tech crap
04:49 <Fonkay> why do we need you?
04:49 <Vanhayes> well we were making fun of you guys before it was cool
04:50 <GodTodd> you guys love us and you know it :D
04:50 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
04:50 <spidey> well, atleast if global warming does happen, canada will give us a new ocean :p
04:50 <Fonkay> we make fun of americans, and newfies
04:50 <Vanhayes> ya, damned newfies
04:50 <spidey> newfies?
04:51 <Fonkay> invader
04:51 <GodTodd> newfoundlanders
04:51 <spidey> o
04:51 <Vanhayes> they have a town called dildo
04:52 <GodTodd> yeah...what province up there has regina?  i was told the proper way to pronounce it is like vagina
04:52 <Fonkay> re gine a
04:52 <spidey> england has one called "fuck"
04:52 <Vanhayes> had to share that cause when I was driving threw there and saw the big sign saying "welcome to dildo" i could not stop laughing the whole way threw
04:52 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:52 <Fonkay> but NS has tonnes of weird names
04:52 <GodTodd> i wanna start a university called 'fuck'
04:53 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (8:54 PM CST on December 20, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa. 
04:53 <Vanhayes> heh F U
04:53 <GodTodd> yeah...Fuck U
04:53 <GodTodd> :D
04:53 <Vanhayes> #weather dildo
04:53 <ghableska> GodTodd: definitely ivy-league material
04:53 <GodTodd> heh...there's a reason University of Florida uses the U first ;)
04:53 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
04:53 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "dildo".
04:53 <Vanhayes> aw
04:54 <Vanhayes> ya newbrunswick has some strange ones too
04:55 <Fonkay> pugwash, tatamagoush
04:55 <Fonkay> there are more, but I'm drawing a blank
04:57 <Vanhayes> hmm we have alot of saint towns and cities around here, I think there are 4 or 5
04:57 <Fonkay> we have a lot of "new" towns
04:58 <Fonkay> even NS stands for new scotland
04:58 <GodTodd> we have new york and new jersey and the like
04:58 <GodTodd> in the east
04:58 <GodTodd> and new mexico from the south :/
04:59 <Fonkay> we have them all over
05:00  * Your_mom_arma *
05:00 <GodTodd> we tend to name stuff after people
05:00 <Fonkay> new germany, new glasgow, new bedford
05:00 <Fonkay> most of our names are a mix of native names, british places, and founders names
05:01 <GodTodd> thing with us is...the british brought in people from so many different countries that it all got mixed up
05:02 <Fonkay> ok, now that i've raised a fuss I'm leaving, time for sleep
05:02 <ghableska> #night
05:02 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
05:02 <Vanhayes> heh, night Fonkay 
05:02 <Fonkay> night ghab
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05:02 <GodTodd> damn instigating canadians ;)
05:02 <Fonkay> night purple
05:02 <GodTodd> heh
05:02 <GodTodd> night
05:02 <Vanhayes> hmm, actually im out too, it is late
05:02 <GodTodd> cya hayes
05:02 <Vanhayes> #night
05:02 <armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
05:02 <Vanhayes> cya
05:02 <Your_mom_arma> cya
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05:03 <Fonkay> #night me
05:03 <armabot> Good night Fonkay!
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05:03 <Your_mom_arma> yep
05:03 <GodTodd> nope
05:03 <Your_mom_arma> mmm hmm
05:04 <GodTodd> liar :P
05:04 <Your_mom_arma> <shifty eyes>
05:04 <GodTodd> heh
05:05 <Your_mom_arma> so todd whats new
05:05 <GodTodd> ummm....stuff that isn't used?
05:06 <Your_mom_arma> so true
05:06 <GodTodd> not my textbooks...that's for sure :)
05:06 <Your_mom_arma> hehe
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05:09 <GodTodd> lying canadians
05:09 <GodTodd> Having destroyed Washington's public buildings, including the White House and the Treasury, the British army next moved to capture Baltimore, a busy port and a key base for American privateers. 
05:10 <GodTodd> can't trust a one of 'em
05:10 <GodTodd> heh
05:10 <Your_mom_arma> they love to hate us
05:10 <GodTodd> they take credit for burning down the white house when it was the brits
05:11 <Your_mom_arma> but they depend on us for trade
05:11 <GodTodd> heh, of course
05:11 <GodTodd> we're like everyone's big brother...they hate us til they really need to see that R rated movie
05:11 <GodTodd> ;)
05:11 <Your_mom_arma> yeah , well put
05:13 <GodTodd> and no matter how much shit little bro canada gives us, if big bad bullies come after them we wouldn't hesitate to mobilize
05:15 <Your_mom_arma> of course
05:20 <GodTodd> but, hey, we'll always be better anyway....they have quebec ;)
05:20 <Your_mom_arma> haha
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05:39 <Lucifer_arma> fuck
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> I got a C in my calc class :/
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I know Fonkay left and Vanhayes left, so y'all remind them
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> the terms of the treaty that ended the war of 1812 basically said "let's pretend this didn't happen and go back to like things were in the beginning"
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> it was a *tie*
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> and canada still lived under the subjugation of the british crown, hardly a "victory"
05:45 <GodTodd> that's what i told them :)
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> well, see, burning down the white house *was* Canada's 15 minutes of fame
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> :)
05:45 <GodTodd> wikipedia says it was the brits
05:45 <GodTodd> just before they tried to take baltimore
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> otoh, I read up on France in WWII, and I've gotta say, I may never tell another french surrender joke again
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, canada was a british colony, but the british used canadian militias for the war because they were in the tail end of the napoleanic wars at the time
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> the blockade was british ships, but the land units were mostly canadian, I think with their native allies but could be wrong about that
05:47 <GodTodd> not sure...we don't get to the war of 1812 til after break
05:47 <GodTodd> heh
05:47 <Your_mom_arma> luci eleborate on the french in ww2 thing
05:47 <GodTodd> and it's been sooo long since i've taken us history
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> ok
05:47 <Your_mom_arma> ww2 is our trump cad in any argument
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> ever hear about the Battle of Verdun from WWI?
05:47 <Your_mom_arma> not that i can remember
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> ok, Verdun is this piece of ground that has particular cultural significance for the french.  A german general decided they could get into a little battle of attrition over Verdun and wear the french out
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> so he launches a massive offensive that almost succeeded.  Almost.  :)  The French commander in that battle was a man named Petain
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> in the 20s or 30s, I forget which, Petain rose to some prominence in French politics.  Petain was a very conservative man whose politics were pretty loopy,
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> but he was the hero of Verdun!
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> So when the Nazis went into France, french parliament gave him "emergency powers"
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> he dissolved the french parliament, made a deal with the Nazis, and then basically became the brutal dictator that was Vichy France
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> Vichy France was the government recognized as the legitimate government of France, right?  The capital moved to the town of Vichy, hence the name
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> Petain was removed from effective power by the Nazis in 1943 or so and remained as a figurehead, during which time he collaborated even more with the Nazis
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> he was anti-semitic pretty badly, in fact he was every bit a Nazi himself.  If there had been a Nazi party in France, he probably would have been a member, and his politics were nazi-like
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> so he supported the Nazi power in France
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> meanwhile, another guy who'd fought for France in WWI, rose to some distinction and also got involved in politics declared Free France
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> this guy was the leader of the french resistance, who had to resist both nazi occupation *and* Vichy France
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> so they were both a guerrilla organization fighting the evil invaders and also a revolutionary organization wanting to restore the French Republic
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> *that* guy was Charles de Gaulle, who later went on to push for the establishment of the EU
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> you know, when he became President of France much later
05:53 <GodTodd> de Gaulle? never heard of 'im
05:53 <GodTodd> ;)
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, Petain is viewed in much the same way as Benedict Arnold is by Americans
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> he had popular support at the time of the Nazi invasion, but very quickly showed he wasn't the right guy for the job and betrayed the French people
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> so France didn't so much surrender as they got taken by a sith lord
05:54 <GodTodd> heh
05:54 <Your_mom_arma> brutal
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> and the guy who decided to fight is a great hero by anybody's reckoning, at least for his actions in WW2
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> he basically said "Petain is not the legitimate leader of our country because the legitimate government would not have given up so easily"
05:55 <GodTodd> how do all these european countries get fooled into putting such bad people in power...we would never.....nvm
05:55 <GodTodd> heh
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> and he was right, he had french support
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> so think of how you'd feel if Benedict Arnold had actually managed to sell out the whole country, and some french guy came along and say all americans were wussy surrender-monkeys
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> so, I guess we still "saved" France, both liberating them and preventing communist occupation, and that's still useful as a trump card
05:57 <GodTodd> yeah...we're still bigger, badder and tougher :P
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> later on, after the fourth French Republic was established (the successor state to Vichy France, established after the war), de Gaulle didn't like it so he burned out and went to Algeria
05:57 <Lucifer_arma> that government tried to hold onto its colonial possessions, which included Algeria, but also included Viet Nam
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> they fought in Vietname for 10 years before finally losing, and then de Gaulle was elected President
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> he said he wouldn't serve unless they wrote a new constitution, and they did, and the Fifth French Republic was born, which is the current government of France
05:58 <Lucifer_arma> when the French pulled out of Vietnam, the US saw that without someone stopping it, the Vietnamese were going to become communist
05:59 <GodTodd> yeah...the one country that can mess up a Disney amusement park heh
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> which is how we got to be involved in it.  When we finally pulled out, the Vietnamese had been at war for 25 years or so, first defeating France, then defeating us
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> so when you look at it that way, we couldn't do any better than France did
06:00 <GodTodd> thing is...when you're saving a people from another people and both peoples look essentially the same...it's hard to know your enemies....
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> who were we saving, and from what?  :)
06:00 <GodTodd> well...depends on who you ask ;)
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> we absolutely fucked up in Vietnam
06:01 <GodTodd> no doubt
06:01 <Your_mom_arma> vietnam/iraq lose lose war
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06:01 <Lucifer_arma> there's no doubt, at least amongst military historians, that if we'd gone into Vietnam with overwhelming force, the outcome would have been different
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> with one minor problem
06:01 <GodTodd> the soldiers didn't deserve the shit they got coming back tho
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> the government we put together in Vietnam and propped up was a brutal dictatorship
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> somehow we thought that was preferable to a communist regime
06:02 <GodTodd> kinda like we did in afghanistan? 
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> the northern alliance is actually pretty decent as far as moslem republics go
06:02 <Your_mom_arma> i thought afganistan was ruled by warlords
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> we're supporting the northern alliance there
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> problem is, the Taliban have regrouped
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> we can actually win in afghanistan, I think, but I don't think we can win in Iraq
06:03 <Arma658> sdamn taliban 
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> hi durka
06:03 <GodTodd> yeah...iraq is a losing cause
06:03 <GodTodd> but bush is either too stubborn or in too deep to admit it
06:03 <Your_mom_arma> i cant help but see so many simalarities between iraq and vietnam
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> well, I think we could have won from the outset
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> the real problem is that we've fucked ourselves over.  Those soldiers raping that girl and then murdering her whole family, Abu Ghraib, etc.
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> why should the Iraqis care what we have to say?  We obviously don't know what we're doing!
06:04 <GodTodd> exactly :)
06:05 <GodTodd> before you set up someone else's government, you really should know how to run your own
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> so, we've lost their support.  We did actually have their support going in, but we've lost it, and in trying to work out amongst themselves what to do they're not finding a uniting force
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> our presence is a divisive force, Al-Qaeda's presence is a dividing force, so they're back to fighting the same old fights the ways they've always fougt them
06:06 <GodTodd> which is why bush now "needs more troops"
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06:06 <Lucifer_arma> Iraq was an artifically created state anyway, it's not the successor state to the old persian empire or anything
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> there is no ties amongst the different groups in Iraq other than the state that was created for them
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06:07 <Lucifer_arma> it's like grabbing 10 people who all hate each other, sticking them on an island forceably, and telling them to get along
06:07 <Arma658> :)
06:07 <GodTodd> that sounds like a horrible reality show
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:08 <Arma658> >:)
06:08  * GodTodd thinks Lucifer_arma is a closet Survivor watcher ;)
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> see, it gets even deeper.  Iraq was formerly a British Protectorate, and those areas that became BPs became so after WWI, when the Ottoman Empire was dismantled
06:09  * Arma658 is GOD
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> the Brits administered the areas, but didn't exactly do anything for the people.  It got pretty nasty.  Some areas revolted to establish themselves, others were spun off on their own
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> Iraq was spun off
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> wait, you mean <red>GOD?
06:10 <Arma658> huh 
06:10 <Arma658> GOD
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> <red>GOD<grey lightcycle>?
06:10 <Arma658> nope
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> ah, a poser then
06:10 <Arma658> lol im not god XD
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> so basically western powers really have been fucking over the middle east since the end of WWI
06:11 <GodTodd> of course
06:11 <GodTodd> they have oil
06:11 <GodTodd> heh
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> well, it wasn't for oil originally.  :)  It was essentially vengeance over the Ottoman's participation in WWI
06:12 <GodTodd> i know
06:12 <GodTodd> but whenever you mention middle east it's automatically oil 
06:12 <GodTodd> :P
06:13 <Arma658> cya guys
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06:18 <Your_mom_arma> isnt it the uns job to help stabalize the region
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=123311#123311
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> well, the region was stable before we went in and shook it up
06:19 <DrJoeTron> hey there
06:19 <Your_mom_arma> well that didnt start with the iraq war
06:19 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma I camped out for a wii.
06:19 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> quit whining emo kid
06:19 <Your_mom_arma> did you get one?
06:19 <DrJoeTron> it was the saddest moment of my life
06:19 <DrJoeTron> yeah I did
06:20 <DrJoeTron> I had to go at 9:30pm the day before
06:20 <Your_mom_arma> i dont know why tank hasnt lo0cked or deleted that
06:20 <DrJoeTron> and I #7 of the 18 available.
06:20 <Your_mom_arma> wow
06:20 <DrJoeTron> yeah 
06:20 <DrJoeTron> but hey, its over now, my pride is slowly returning
06:21 <xfroggy> wow the emo problem is spreading across the world I believe
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you go wallow in self-pity for awhile?
06:21 <Your_mom_arma> it starts with you xfroggy
06:21 <xfroggy> hmm
06:21 <DrJoeTron> someone should just tell the emo guy that its down the street, not across the block
06:21 <xfroggy> u 2nd in line then?
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> would rounding up all the emo kids and putting them in gas chambers constitute genocide?
06:22 <DrJoeTron> no
06:22 <Your_mom_arma> whats with the x?
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> it means "formerly"
06:22 <DrJoeTron> it would count as a christmas miracle
06:22 <Your_mom_arma> tank needs to delete/lock these threads
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> I think emos constitute irrefutable proof that there is no god
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> aren't you supposed to wallow in guilt, not self-pity?
06:23 <xfroggy> LOL
06:23 <DrJoeTron> tank yelled at me for complaining about the 3 threads that sprung up out of nowhere that were filled with crappy crap
06:23 <DrJoeTron> so I'm afraid to say anything :/
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> I think I showed considerable restraint
06:23 <Your_mom_arma> he yelled at you?
06:24 <DrJoeTron> not so much yell as he told me to pretty much quit complaining about it.
06:24 <Lucifer_arma> well, you were getting a tad *emo*tional about it
06:24 <DrJoeTron> I'm so glad my post is at the bottom of page 1
06:24 <DrJoeTron> and then the fun truely starts
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> I think he's figured out he tried to wallow in self-pity in the wrong place :)
06:27 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, can we release a special version of the game called emogetron, that uses a different master server?
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> and links a different forum?
06:28 <DrJoeTron> I just knew SOMEONE was going to take the abortion topic and run with it
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  "Emo boy core dumped Emo girl and his life still sucks.  Cry for him!"
06:28 <Lucifer_arma> "Match Winner: Not you"
06:29 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:29 <Your_mom_arma> its not the place for that kind of discussion
06:30 <Lucifer_arma> ?  It's Really General, isn't it?
06:30 <Your_mom_arma> and tanks always going on about it being a family freindly forum so i didnt understand why he posted in it and left it
06:30 <DrJoeTron> "Emo Boy Took Emo Girl off of his myspace friends list for 1 point"
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> maybe he wanted to pretend not to notice it and give some folks a chance to bitchslap the emo kid before he locked it?
06:31 <Your_mom_arma> i ment the "family freindly forums" that guru3 is supossed to be
06:31 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:31 <Lucifer_arma> and all of us wusses have been trying not to go medieval on the boy.  We suck so badly.  waa waa
06:31  * Lucifer_arma cries
06:32 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma hey man...it's ok
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> oh no it's not!  waaaaaaaaa
06:32  * Lucifer_arma cries harder
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> (is he noticing me?)
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> man, fuck that.  I don't even want to pretend to be emo
06:32 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:32 <DrJoeTron> dude...listen to my band dude
06:33 <DrJoeTron> We're called stabbyripstabstab
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah?  Do you sound anything like ribstabribstabby?
06:33 <DrJoeTron> we cover songs from Autumn in Jersey...and Joy Division
06:33 <Your_mom_arma> remember punk girl?
06:33 <DrJoeTron> OH GAWD
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> man, you had to bring her up, didn't you?
06:33 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma WHY?
06:33 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> I remember running her off every server I found her on
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> or at least trying
06:34 <Your_mom_arma> hey if we're gonna talk about emo arma i have to bring her up
06:34 <DrJoeTron> theres no time and no place for her!
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> y'all remember her bringing in her emo friends?
06:36 <DrJoeTron> haha
06:36 <DrJoeTron> vaguely
06:36 <DrJoeTron> I try to block this stuff out Lucifer_arma
06:36 <Lucifer_arma> heh
06:36 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:36 <Your_mom_arma> i remember whole servers full of em
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> to be honest, all I remember about it was how irritated I was that I had to silence like 4 people
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> and then going to my own server where I could kick on site
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> *sight
06:37 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:37 <Lucifer_arma> now that I think about it, I think I firewall banned punk girl
06:39 <DrJoeTron> ooo 
06:39 <DrJoeTron> speaking of
06:39 <DrJoeTron> Your_mom_arma you gotta try out the lobster tub redux :d
06:39 <DrJoeTron> it goes up tomorrow hopefully if gomes remembers
06:39 <Your_mom_arma> was going to with nemo, but it was down
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> we gotta do [emo] now
06:40 <Your_mom_arma> haha
06:40 <DrJoeTron> its shut down right now
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> they thought dwh was annoying
06:40 <DrJoeTron> I can put it back up
06:40 <DrJoeTron> infact I was just about to
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> wait 'till [emo] hits the scene
06:41 <DrJoeTron> alright, its up and running
06:42 <DrJoeTron> 4535 I think is the port
06:45 <spidey> DrJoeTron, 
06:45 <spidey> defcon?
06:52 <DrJoeTron> armagetron buddy
06:54 <spidey> you suck
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> he's playing emogetron
07:30 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: is the wiki down?
07:30  * wrtlprnft goes whine some
07:31 <Lucifer_arma> give a minute for the dns to update
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08:27 <DrJoeTron> I think I'm making a big mistake making Slopok  a  mod for my servers
08:27 <DrJoeTron> but oh well
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10:01 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP_3...&watch_response  :/
10:02 <DrJoeTron> fuck the fcc
10:14 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP_3WnJ42kw&watch_response that should work
11:27 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOVmSw6wTZk
11:27 <spidey> ROFL!!
11:30 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WiWEuMMXF8&NR <-- o.O
11:40 <DrJoeTron> "this'll be on youtube tomorrrow"
11:43 <DrJoeTron> 2nd one sucked
11:43 <spidey> heh
11:43 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IP2rLkp7Cc&mode=related&search=  <-- i liked that one
11:50 <spidey> apt-get install searchandrescue 
11:50 <spidey> ;x
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15:06 <Compn> apt-get install youtubedl
15:06 <Compn> ;p
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15:21 <DrJoeTron> theres nothing quite like waking up to the voice of christopher walken
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16:14 <spidey> ack
16:14 <spidey> i have to go get my picture taken today and i dun feel like it :<
16:21 <spidey> bbl
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16:58 <Lucifer_arma> I think waking up to a female mexican voice whispering in spanish in your ear would be better
17:00 <DrJoeTron> im not emo. but thx, 
17:00 <DrJoeTron> ...
17:02 <guru3> haha
17:18 <Lucifer_arma> waa, I just want to die
17:18  * Lucifer_arma cries
17:18 <Lucifer_arma> maybe he should be a country singer, eh?
17:19 <DrJoeTron> nah
17:25 <DrJoeTron> I want a cheeseburger
17:26 <DrJoeTron> :/
17:28 <[Xpert]DarkStar> and i wish i could eat
17:29 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lots of food here but i can't eat -.-
17:29 <[Xpert]DarkStar> fuck teh wisdom teeth
17:34 <DrJoeTron> aww
17:34 <DrJoeTron> I gotta get mine out soon
17:34 <DrJoeTron> they're killing me
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> mine grew in as another set of molars, but because they're so hard to clean now they've got big holes in them
17:39 <Lucifer_arma> I should get them pulled
17:40 <Lucifer_arma> grew in when I was 16-17
17:40 <Lucifer_arma> why oh why did I have to use exceptions to pass up errors that aren't failures?  Now I have to to try: except: for *all* of my error checking.
17:40 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
17:45 <DrJoeTron> my dad is still growing is
17:45 <DrJoeTron> this*
17:45 <DrJoeTron> his*
17:45 <DrJoeTron> there we go
17:46 <DrJoeTron> he's over 50 
17:46 <DrJoeTron> :/
17:47 <Lucifer_arma> I hate this mouse.  my life sucks, wa waw waaaaa!
17:48  * Lucifer_arma thinks he's still an emo, even if he says he's not
17:48  * Lucifer_arma remembers all the hand-holding we had to do for him to play internet games in arma
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> man, this model/view thing in qt4 is freaking cool
17:51 <Lucifer_arma> I want to rewrite my alarm clock in qt4 now just so I can have checkboxes in the alarm view
17:52 <DrJoeTron> he is completely emo
17:53 <DrJoeTron> that whole thread is an emo cry for attention
17:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, we sure gave it to him, eh?
17:53 <DrJoeTron> look at his avatar for god sakes
17:54 <Lucifer_arma> we should ask hiim to post a photo of himself so we can count the visible eyes
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> you know, we don't have to round up all the emos and put them in gas chambers
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> we could use them as front-line troops in an invasion of North Korea
17:55 <Lucifer_arma> we could also use them to clear minefields
17:57 <Lucifer_arma> I know what I'll do.  I'll get my budget program working, then I'll get my text editor and alarm clock ported, then I'll get my desktop environment working
17:58 <DrJoeTron> nah man
17:58 <DrJoeTron> theyll cry too much
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> no they won't, because they'll know they're finally getting what they don't have the balls to do themselves
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> but just to keep them happy, we'll make sure we don't give them any bullets.  Because they can't be happy without something to cry about
18:01 <Lucifer_arma> er, did I just contradict myself?
18:07 <Lucifer_arma> aha, music.  I'm glad I plugged in those speakers finally
18:07 <Lucifer_arma> a decidedly most un-emo song.  ("King of the Mountain"  :)  )
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18:22 <DrJoeTron> Root down here
18:23 <DrJoeTron> oh jazz
18:23 <DrJoeTron> so fun to play
18:23 <DrJoeTron> yet so unfun to listen to
18:51 <spidey> omg
18:51 <spidey> first guy said
18:52 <spidey> "we need 2 proofs that you live in tennessee"
18:54 <spidey> ack
18:54 <spidey> anyways
18:54 <spidey> so we drove all the way home got them
18:55 <spidey> go back, the next guy says we need a birth cert.
18:56 <spidey> so we get it, then go back...another guy says we need "a origanol or certified copy of the birth cert. and proof of legal custidy"
18:56 <spidey> all these just for a photo id!
18:56 <spidey> and i didn't even get it >.>
19:07 <DrJoeTron> get a drivers lisence sucka
19:09 <wrtlprnft> quite easy to get one here
19:10 <wrtlprnft> take your passport and a photo and go to the KVR, wait a couple of minutes (or VERY long if you come at the wrong time), show them the passport and give them the photo, and in some 3 weeks you can get your ID
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19:20 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma keith richards is jacks father in the new pirates movie
19:22 <Compn> i wish the new movie had less orlando bloom and keira
19:23 <Compn> jack's the only reason to watch it ;p
19:30 <DrJoeTron> haha
19:30 <DrJoeTron> It needed more pirates
19:31 <Compn> yes, and less love triangle
19:31 <Compn> or love decahedron
19:32 <Compn> keira > orlando > jack > norrington
19:32 <Compn> probably more
19:32 <Compn> keira is a slut
19:32 <Compn> plus that voodoo woman
19:32 <Compn> thats what pirates 3 needs
19:32 <Compn> a woman mud wrestling fight 
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19:43 <DrJoeTron> haha
19:43 <DrJoeTron> yeah
19:43 <DrJoeTron> keira is a massive slut
19:43 <spidey> DrJoeTron, i can't sucka
19:43 <DrJoeTron> driving too hard? :(
19:43 <spidey> i need the same shit for drivers license as i do for a fucking photo id
19:43 <spidey> kinda gay..
19:43 <[NP]Tangent> Keira === slut
19:43 <DrJoeTron> thats what I'm going after
19:44 <spidey> tangent = spideys' slut
19:44 <[NP]Tangent> nice
19:44 <[NP]Tangent> have fun with the aids
19:44 <DrJoeTron> KUSH SLASH!
19:44 <DrJoeTron> KUSH LASH!
19:44 <spidey> joe
19:44 <spidey> lets play defcon :D:D
19:44 <[NP]Tangent> KUSH LASH!
19:44 <DrJoeTron> I wanna play some kush lash
19:45 <spidey> ...
19:45 <spidey> ok bend over
19:45 <DrJoeTron> no way
19:45 <spidey> rofl
19:45 <DrJoeTron> I saw deliverance spider
19:45 <spidey> and how does that make you feel?
19:46 <DrJoeTron> oh man, I havent watched college university in soo long
19:46 <DrJoeTron> I need to watch the kush lash one
19:46 <spidey> wrtlprnft, textbased irssi
19:47 <spidey> if i close the terminal, does irssi close to?
19:47 <DrJoeTron> http://www.collegeuniv.com/html/module-Pagesetter-viewpub-tid-1-pid-26.html yay :D
19:51  * madmax|pt pokes spidey 
19:51  * spidey drop kicks madmax|pt back to the grid
19:52 <madmax|pt> btw, it closes irssi...
19:53 <madmax|pt> use screen :P
19:55 <spidey> hmm
19:55 <spidey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLcRJ_ZnoM4
19:56 <spidey> hmm
19:56 <spidey> what's screen do o.O
19:58 <madmax|pt> The beauty of the screen is that users can "detach" from their screens, logout, and then at a later time, login again "reattach" to find their programs still running just as they left them.
19:58 <wrtlprnft> spidey: yes, it does
19:58 <wrtlprnft> spidey: use screen
19:58 <madmax|pt> lol
19:58 <madmax|pt> take a look http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi
19:58 <wrtlprnft> oh, lol, missed madmax|pt's answer
20:00 <spidey> http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/12/20/gangsta.lyrics.ap/index.html
20:00 <spidey> so
20:01 <spidey> screen is like
20:01  * spidey has no idea...
20:03  * wrtlprnft is missing something like an X11 screen
20:05 <spidey> ?
20:06 <spidey> i don't have a  use for x :/
20:06 <spidey> unless i run it over ssh, but that's stupid
20:07 <wrtlprnft> no, i'd like to have it
20:07 <wrtlprnft> you know, run an “X11 screen”, then detach it and reattach from another computer
20:08 <spidey> o.O
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20:12 <Lucifer_arma> that voodoo woman was hot, definitely need more of her
20:12 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, take out all the other people and just do jack and the voodoo woman
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20:24 <Lucifer_arma> SIZE_FACTOR is the exponent for the factor itself, right?
20:25 <Lucifer_arma> so wht's the base, then?
20:28 <wrtlprnft> -1 translates to 1/√2
20:28 <wrtlprnft> -2 translates to .5
20:28 <wrtlprnft> so i guess the base is √2
20:29 <wrtlprnft> but don't ask me why this base was chosen and why the setting is an integer, not a float
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21:20 <Lucifer_arma> yay, finally have headphones that don't completely suck
21:49 <madmax|pt> sennheiser? :D
22:10 <spidey> ..
22:10 <wrtlprnft> you forgot a .
22:11 <spidey> nah
22:11 <spidey> luke does ...
22:11 <spidey> i do .. :D
22:11 <wrtlprnft> do … :P
22:11 <spidey> :/
22:11 <spidey>  …  <-- i saw that
22:11 <wrtlprnft> good.
22:12 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/spidey42.png
22:12 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, luke-jr_work wejp_ GodTodd Vanhayes wrtlprnft  ping
22:12 <wrtlprnft> pong
22:12 <spidey> s3d?
22:12 <Vanhayes> pong
22:12 <spidey> s3d?
22:12 <wrtlprnft> nah
22:13 <wrtlprnft> history test tomorrow
22:13 <wrtlprnft> Bismarck et all
22:13 <spidey> history's easy
22:13 <wrtlprnft> maybe in america.
22:13 <spidey> i'm doing world history
22:13 <spidey> i aced a book on europian history
22:14 <wrtlprnft> so
22:14 <wrtlprnft> who was bismarck?
22:14 <spidey> dunno :D
22:14 <spidey> i don't even remember what i tested on
22:14 <spidey> because i don't care about us history or any other history
22:14 <spidey> it's just easy
22:15 <spidey> i read the book then go test and completely forget about it o.O
22:15 <wrtlprnft> as i said, it's not that easy here
22:15 <spidey> heh
22:16 <spidey> i have to start on next semester early
22:16 <spidey> if i wanna finish it ;/
22:16 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:16 <spidey> 60 page books instead of 30
22:16 <wrtlprnft> you and your books.
22:16 <spidey> heh
22:16 <spidey> homeschool :p
22:17 <wrtlprnft> i don't even think homeschool exists in germany
22:17 <spidey> ok
22:17 <spidey> well
22:17 <wrtlprnft> for a good reason imho
22:17 <spidey> it's not "total" homeschool
22:17 <spidey> it's more like college
22:17 <Vanhayes> ha
22:17 <spidey> you get the stuff, do it on your own time, then goto a building and test
22:18 <wrtlprnft> actually, yeah, it does exist, but only for very disabled people
22:18 <spidey> only difference is we don't have classes
22:18 <spidey> just tutoring if we need it
22:18 <wrtlprnft> (so you'd get it here, too jk)
22:18 <spidey> :(
22:18 <spidey> teach me how to use screen :D
22:18 <spidey> and irrsi ;/
22:19  * spidey installs it
22:19 <wrtlprnft> you don't have a book on it?
22:19 <spidey> nope
22:19 <spidey> i lost it
22:19 <spidey> :<
22:19 <wrtlprnft> i can ask the test questions if you like
22:19 <wrtlprnft> http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen
22:20 <spidey> hmmm
22:20 <spidey> do i need the scripts package?
22:20 <wrtlprnft> i don't know what that is, therefore no
22:20 <spidey> k
22:21 <spidey> #ping
22:21 <armabot> pong
22:21 <spidey> wtf
22:21 <spidey> how do you timeout on lan
22:21 <spidey> :/
22:21 <wrtlprnft> pull the plug?
22:22 <spidey> Pinging 192.168.2.2 with 32 bytes of data:
22:22 <spidey> Request timed out.
22:22 <spidey> i think i broke it...
22:22 <wrtlprnft> is there anything you can't break?
22:23 <spidey> absolutely....not
22:25 <wrtlprnft> #g 50.5 cm / speed of light
22:25 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (50.5 centimeters) / the speed of light = 1.68449868 nanoseconds
22:26 <wrtlprnft> #g 50.5 cm / speed of light * (9,192,631,770)
22:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((50.5 cm) / the speed of light) * 9,192,631,770 = 15.4849761 seconds
22:29 <spidey> hmmm
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
22:30 <spidey> s3d?
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> not right now, maybe later tonight
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> working on my checkbook program right now :)
22:31 <Lucifer_arma> well, actually, smoking a cigarette, the last shit I took was pretty greasy
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22:32 <spidey_> wrtlprnft: do one of your utf-8 thingies
22:33 <wrtlprnft> …
22:33 <wrtlprnft> –
22:33 <wrtlprnft> √
22:33 <wrtlprnft> ←↓→↑
22:33 <spidey> hmm
22:34 <spidey> i'm still seeing the a with a line over it
22:34  * wrtlprnft notes that using an irc client as root is generally NOT a good idea
22:34 <spidey> and |
22:34 <wrtlprnft> your terminal needs to support utf-8
22:34 <spidey> it's putty
22:34 <spidey> lol
22:35 <wrtlprnft> and you need to tell irssi and screen to use utf-8
22:35 <spidey> but i think i installed debian with iso
22:35 <wrtlprnft> i'm sure putty has a setting for that
22:35 <spidey> how do i tell irssi to use it?
22:37 <wrtlprnft> umm, sec
22:37 <wrtlprnft> /set term_charset=utf-8
22:38 <wrtlprnft> anyways, good night
22:39 <spidey> 01:10 -!- Irssi: Unknown setting term_charset=utf-8
22:44 <Lucifer_arma> anybody know a good dcc code injection exploit for irssi?
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22:56 <Lucifer_arma> fucking kid
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> runs all over the place, hits a wall and cries for awhile
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> soon as he feels better again, there he goes, running all over the place again
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22:59 <DrJoeTron> wow arma is bumpin tonight
22:59 <DrJoeTron> or this afternoon
22:59 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails cage
22:59 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: Players (7/7): BOO, fqpsa, Locust, michael scott, vezzy, Zaleos, ~(cq)~fish~
23:04 <DrJoeTron> excellent! Toejam and Earl available christmas day!
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> I always like a little toejam on christmas day
23:24 <Lucifer_arma> makes the gravy go down easy

Log from 2006-12-22:
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00:01 <Lucifer_arma> now I just need a mechanism for adding new transactions.... :)
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00:05 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
00:06 <ghableska> hey Vanhayes
00:06 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:06 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (4:54 PM CST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa. 
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00:21 <ghableska> bbl
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00:30 <Lucifer_arma> I want to rewrite my data layer to use sqlite now :/
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00:51 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails g
00:51 <armabot> Vanhayes: G-Land (A Swamplords server): Players (8/8): Archetype, Bonescythe, Ca$h |MBC|, eggcozy, epic, gss, TiS, w0rms3r
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00:57 <madmax|pt> ooh
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01:30 <AlaHabarbaraHuzz> .
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01:32 <Guest_339> lovely
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01:34 <Skip> Pfft.. and they said there'd be people in here. ><;
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01:44 <madmax|pt> Skip: there isnt?
01:47 <Skip> None, max. Infact this place isn't even real. It's simply a figment of our imaginations in a shared dream. :)
01:54  * Lucifer_arma rubs his eyes
02:02  * spidey pokes Lucifer_arma in the eye
02:07 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12.240.54.90] has joined #Armagetron
02:08 <ghableska> hello
02:08 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:08 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (6:54 PM CST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa.  Dense fog advisory in effect until 10 am CST Friday... 
02:09 <Skip> o/ ghab
02:09 <ghableska> hi Skip
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03:28 <Arma373> HEY
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03:54 <ghableska> #weather 50265\
03:54 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (8:34 PM CST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa.  Dense fog advisory in effect until 10 am CST Friday... 
04:06 <spidey> #weather 38256
04:06 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 57.6°F (9:06 PM CST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 57.2°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling). 
04:16 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:16 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 48.6°F (9:16 PM CST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa. 
04:21 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 30°F / -1°C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 28mph / 44km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM AST; Tonight - A few clouds. Wind northwest 30 km/h. Low minus 7.; Friday - Sunny. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the morning. High minus 2. Friday night..clear. Increasing cloudiness overnight. Low minus 8.; Saturday - Periods of (1 more message)
04:22 <Vanhayes> #more
04:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: rain. High plus 4.;
04:22 <Skip> #meaning of life
04:27 -!- yojimbo [n=ipale@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #armagetron
04:27 <Skip> the bot's broken..
04:28 <yojimbo> bots don't usually work
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> #insult Skip
04:29 <armabot> Skip - You are nothing but a hasty-witted plate of hedge-born craptacular. 
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> bot works fine
04:29 <ghableska> :)
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> #cnn 78717
04:30 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Round Rock, TX is 48.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Wind: NNW at 3 mph (5 km/h).
04:30 <Skip> Maybe that was just a fluke..
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> wow, I thought it was warmer
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> maybe it doesn't know the command and it's been configured not to spam the channel with unknown command notifications
04:30 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> #insult Skip
04:30 <armabot> Skip - You are nothing but a malt-wormy assload of off-color pus. 
04:30 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 48.2°F (9:30 PM CST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa. 
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> #insult yojimbo (hi there!) 
04:31 <Skip> I guess it does work..
04:31 <armabot> yojimbo (hi there!) - You are nothing but a tottering pile of evil heads. 
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> what's an evil head?
04:31 <Skip> #insult god
04:31 <armabot> god - You are nothing but a toad-spotted puddle of antique droppings. 
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> ack, I just figured out why the chicken wasn't very spicy
04:32 <Skip> "That wasn't chicken"
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> apparently when I ws seeding the chiles, I got all the spicy juice under my thumbnail
04:32 <GodTodd> cuz it was a gringo?
04:32 <DrJoeTron> ey essay
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> well, by convention we call our "alternative" meats "chicken"
04:32 <DrJoeTron> what about pork
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> long pork
04:32 <DrJoeTron> pulled pork
04:32 <Skip> #cnn denver
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> pulled long pork
04:32 <armabot> Skip: The current temperature in Denver, CO is 25.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Wind: SW at 9 mph (14 km/h).
04:32 <Lucifer_arma> #google long pork
04:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.20 seconds: Transwiki: Long pork - Wiktionary: <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Transwiki:Long_pork>; Mmm, tastes like chicken: Common ancestors could account for ...: <http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20000717chicken1.asp>; Cemetery Culture: Deadly Language: <http://www.alsirat.com/deathlore/slang/longpork.html>; long pork @Everything2.com: (2 more messages)
04:33 <GodTodd> a long pork is always preferable to a short pork ;)
04:33 <Skip> Didnt it used to go something like
04:33 <Skip> !find define: long pork
04:33 <DrJoeTron> #google pork
04:33 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Search took 0.09 seconds: Pork Checkoff - The Other White Meat: pork , recipes, ham, cooking ...: <http://www.theotherwhitemeat.com/>; Pork Checkoff: <http://www.pork.org/>; Pork - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork>; Pork barrel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_barrel>; National Pork Producers Council: <http://www.nppc.org/>; (1 more message)
04:33 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: pong
04:33 <DrJoeTron> I win
04:33 <Skip> #define Lucifer
04:33 <DrJoeTron> ghableska derp
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> which irc channel are you talking about?
04:33 <Skip> damnation
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> #wtf Lucifer
04:33 <DrJoeTron> haha
04:33 <Skip> #Find god
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> awww, he turned off that one :(
04:33 <Skip> guess not
04:34 <DrJoeTron> whats up ghableska 
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> oh wait, wouldn't matter anyway, he'd need my custom wtf database
04:34 <ghableska> up for some cs later?
04:34 <DrJoeTron> definately
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> s3d?
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> come on, we gotta show Skip why we're going to rename this to the armagaming channel :)
04:35 <ghableska> ;)
04:35 <DrJoeTron> haha
04:35 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:35 <Skip> Eve Online~
04:35 <DrJoeTron> most of us here dont even play armagetron
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> nah, we're playing other games right now
04:35 <DrJoeTron> I almost wanted to play eve just to join goon fleet
04:35 <Skip> Im playing tron right now o.o
04:35 <ghableska> #lastseen DrJoeTron
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> you're not "most of us here", though
04:35 <ghableska> #lastseen ghableska
04:36 <DrJoeTron> #lastseen Dr Joe Tron
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> #lastseen Lucifer
04:36 <DrJoeTron> STOP IT, ITS THINKING
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> we're going to melt wrtlprnft's server
04:36 <ghableska> heh
04:36 <ghableska> "Hey, what's that smell?"
04:36 <armabot> ghableska: timed out
04:36 <GodTodd> no...this will melt it ;)
04:36 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 1 days 5 hours 12 minutes ago.
04:36 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Dr Joe Tron has last been seen on The Lobster Cage 2 minutes ago.
04:36 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: lucifer has last been seen on The Tavern 1 days 10 hours 40 minutes ago.
04:36 <GodTodd> #lastseen GodTodd
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> that's a phony lucifer
04:37  * Lucifer_arma knows because he hasn't played in months
04:37 <DrJoeTron> I play at my servers and swampys servers
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> I've only played local game
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> ok, that's really a lie
04:38 <armabot> GodTodd: timed out
04:38 <Skip> damn been gone so long I thought ady was you
04:38 <DrJoeTron> ew
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> how the fuck could you mistake that asshat for me?
04:38 <DrJoeTron> yeah
04:38 <GodTodd> them's fightin' words ;)
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> no shit
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> #insult Skip
04:38 <DrJoeTron> challenge him to fisticuffs!
04:38 <armabot> Skip - You are nothing but a festering petrification of motley-mind red. 
04:38 <Skip> lmao
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> should I kick him?  heh
04:38 <DrJoeTron> #roullete spin
04:38 <GodTodd> time for a burr/hamilton duel :)
04:38 <Skip> xD; just a joke
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> right!  I'm errr, the one that won
04:39 <GodTodd> burr
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> you're the one that lost!
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:39 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:39 <Skip> #weather hell
04:39 <armabot> Skip: The current temperature in Baseline Lake, Pinckney, Michigan is 37.9°F (10:35 PM EST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa. 
04:39 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
04:39 <GodTodd> hell's about to freeze over?
04:39 <DrJoeTron> #weather spidey's mom
04:39 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by Lucifer_arma
04:39 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "spidey's mom".
04:39 <@Lucifer_arma> there we go
04:39 <@Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:39 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:39 <Skip> haha
04:39 <@Lucifer_arma> Skip: your turn
04:39 <DrJoeTron> stolen!
04:40 <DrJoeTron> hey what does this do?
04:40 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:40 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
04:40 <DrJoeTron> neat
04:40 <Skip> #roulette
04:40 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:40  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:40 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
04:40 <@Lucifer_arma> :)
04:40 <GodTodd> haha
04:40 -!- Skip [i=irc4u@71.237.34.67] has joined #armagetron
04:40 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
04:40 <DrJoeTron> I'm so glad that didnt happen
04:40 <Skip> lmao
04:40 <Skip> #roulette
04:40 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:40 <DrJoeTron> are those....live...rounds?
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:40 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:40 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:40 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
04:41 <Skip> bastards
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:41 <Skip> #roulette
04:41 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> ooo
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:41 -!- Lucifer_arma was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:41  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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04:41 <DrJoeTron> #roulette spin
04:41 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
04:41  * GodTodd finds that offensive...since he *is* a bastard.
04:41 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:41 -!- DrJoeTron was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you don't really want to relate me to him like that
04:41  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> haha
04:41 <Skip> #roulette spin
04:41 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
04:41 <Skip> #roulette spin
04:41 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
04:41 <Skip> #roulette
04:41 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:42 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:42 <Skip> #roulette
04:42 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-76-215-5-168.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron
04:42 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> just you and me, boy
04:42 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:42 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
04:42 <DrJoeTron> haha
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> well, I guess he's back now
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:42 -!- Lucifer_arma was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:42 <DrJoeTron> A new challenger apears!
04:42  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:42 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
04:42 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:42 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
04:42 <Skip> #roulette
04:42 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:42 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:42 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:42 -!- DrJoeTron was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:42  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:42 <Skip> hahaha
04:42 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-76-215-5-168.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
04:43 <Skip> #roulette spin
04:43 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
04:43 <Skip> #roulette
04:43 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
04:43 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:43 -!- Lucifer_arma was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:43  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:43 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
04:43 <Vanhayes> man, this makes it so much more fun
04:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
04:43 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
04:43  * Lucifer_arma notes that "spin" just echos, it doesn't actually do anythin :)
04:43 <Skip> #roulette
04:43 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:43 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:43 <Vanhayes> #roulette
04:43 -!- Vanhayes was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:43  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:43 <DrJoeTron> not true
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> it is true
04:43 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034241121.nb.aliant.net] has joined #armagetron
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> don't argue with someone who's read the code :)
04:44 <DrJoeTron> it's saved your_mom how many times!
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> nah, what saved him was his "roulete" alias
04:44 <DrJoeTron> haha
04:44 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:44 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
04:44 <Vanhayes> #roulette
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> #roulete
04:44 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
04:44 <Skip> #roulette
04:44 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:44  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> it's gone because I deleted it :)
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:44 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:44 -!- Skip [i=irc4u@71.237.34.67] has joined #armagetron
04:44 <DrJoeTron> ahhh
04:44 <Vanhayes> #roulette
04:44 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
04:45 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:45 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> skip goes again
04:45 <Skip> #roulette
04:45 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> ah oh
04:45 -!- Durka [n=4266ba15@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:45 -!- Lucifer_arma was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:45  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:45 <Vanhayes> #roulette
04:45 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
04:45 <Skip> Durka goes
04:45 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
04:45 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:45 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
04:45 <Skip> Durka >.>
04:45 <DrJoeTron> he can't play in our reindeer games
04:45 <Skip> #roulette spin
04:45 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
04:45 <Skip> #roulette
04:45 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:45  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:45 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
04:45 <Vanhayes> ha
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> heh
04:45 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:45 -!- Skip [i=irc4u@71.237.34.67] has joined #armagetron
04:45 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: *click*
04:45 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:45 <Vanhayes> #roulette
04:45 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> joe, quit going out of turn!
04:46 <Skip> #roulette
04:46 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
04:46 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
04:46 <DrJoeTron> #roulette
04:46 -!- DrJoeTron was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:46  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:46 <Durka> test2
04:46 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-76-215-5-168.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
04:46 <Vanhayes> test1
04:46 <Vanhayes> #roulette
04:46 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> test4
04:46 -!- Durka [n=4266ba15@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
04:46 <Skip> #weather Durka
04:46 <@armabot> Skip: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "Durka".
04:46 <DrJoeTron> #weather Skip's dad
04:46 <Vanhayes> I guess he failed his test
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> bbiab, gonna grab a smoke
04:46 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "Skip's dad".
04:46 <DrJoeTron> he isn't dead is he?
04:46 <Skip> #weather fucksville
04:46 <@armabot> Skip: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "fucksville".
04:47 <Skip> bah.. useless bot
04:47 <Skip> #roulette
04:47 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:47 <DrJoeTron> ghableska
04:47 <DrJoeTron> ghableska lets fucking roll!
04:47 <Skip> #roulette
04:47 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:47  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:47 <Vanhayes> #list alias
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04:47 <@armabot> Vanhayes: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, rules, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
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04:47 <Vanhayes> #rules
04:47 <@armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
04:47 <DrJoeTron> WE hate leet speak :D 
04:48 <Skip> 1337 is not longer leet :/ not for a long time.. like since 96
04:48 <DrJoeTron> ROFL
04:48 -!- Durka [n=4266ba0a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
04:48 <DrJoeTron> DOOD
04:48 <DrJoeTron> DO U HAS STAIRS IN UR HOUS?
04:49 <Skip> #weather Joe
04:49 <Vanhayes> #night
04:49 <@armabot> Good night Vanhayes!
04:49 <@armabot> Skip: The current temperature in Joensuu, Finland is 51.8°F (9:20 PM EEST on September 08, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa. 
04:49 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034241121.nb.aliant.net] has quit [""I quit.""]
04:49 <Skip> #quote
04:55 <ghableska> #roulette
04:55 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
04:55 <ghableska> #roulette
04:55 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
04:55 <ghableska> #roulette
04:55 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
04:55 <Skip> #roulette
04:55 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:55  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:55 <ghableska> haha
04:55 <ghableska> #roulette
04:56 -!- ghableska was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
04:56  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
04:56 -!- Skip [i=irc4u@71.237.34.67] has joined #armagetron
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04:56 <Skip> #roulette spin
04:56 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
04:56 <Skip> #roulette spin
04:56 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
04:56 <Skip> #roulette
04:56 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
04:58 <Lucifer_arma> so, any qt4 people here?
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
04:59 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should join the qt channel
04:59 <ghableska> qt4?
05:01  * GodTodd feels old again.
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> why's that?
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> don't tell me it's because you remember qt1...
05:02 <GodTodd> 1337 went out in '96?
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> errr, no.  Skip's just been out of touch since '96
05:02 <GodTodd> oh...ok...cuz that makes my java class so much funner
05:02 <GodTodd> :)
05:03 <GodTodd> COSC 1337
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> I always knew Java was lame, now I know why
05:03 <Skip> bah <.< Go log back into AOL on your Comodore 64's 300 baud modem
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> heh.  we had one like the one in Wargames :)
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> it was awesome
05:03 <GodTodd> ummm...i predate teh C64 ;)
05:04  * GodTodd predates aol for that matter.
05:04  * GodTodd remembers being able to choose PPP or SLIP from your ISP.
05:05  * GodTodd pats skip on the head.
05:05 <GodTodd> heh
05:05 <Skip> Yeah p.o but you don't predate games on Teletype terminals :D
05:07 <Skip> so you're not.. archaic <_<; right?
05:07  * GodTodd is archaic.
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> I'm glad I don't predate punch cards
05:08 <GodTodd> true
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> if I did, it would mean 3 things.  1) I had to deal with punch cards.  2) At my age now, I'd be stuck in the 80s.  3)  I'd be really old right now.
05:10  * GodTodd finds himself stuck in the 80s anyway at times. :/
05:10  * Lucifer_arma notes he's listen to 80s-era Queensryche right this minute
05:11  * spidey notes he's listening to his stereo hum
05:12 <spidey> stupid radio station must have forgot to put a playlist on before they left work :/
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> oooo oooo, back on the chain gang
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> the only reason I like that song is because she goes "Oh oh oh oh oh oh" in the verses
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> and it sounds really nice
05:18 <spidey> ...
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, haven't heard this yet
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> the Bat Head Soup version of Crazy Train
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> I take it back, I heard part of it in the acc bookstore
05:19  * spidey pwns luci
05:19  * Lucifer_arma pawns spidey (hi there!) and complains they only gave him a nickel
05:20 <spidey> that's not fair
05:20 <spidey> you lagged
05:20  * Lucifer_arma offers the pawn ticket to Skip
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> lagged?  I was in another channel
05:20 <Skip> hmmm..
05:20 <spidey> nono
05:20 <Skip> #roulette
05:20 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:20  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:20 <spidey> you didn't get it, nvm :p
05:20 <ghableska> haha
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05:20 <ghableska> Skip: :)
05:20 <spidey> #roulette
05:20 <@armabot> spidey: *click*
05:21 <Skip> That's a really reliable gun
05:21 <spidey> ghableska, your turn
05:21 <ghableska> #roulette
05:21 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:21 <spidey> skip
05:21 <spidey> you again
05:21 <ghableska> #roulette
05:21 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:21 <spidey> #roulette
05:21 <@armabot> spidey: *click*
05:21 <Skip> I'll win for sure..
05:21 <Skip> #roulette
05:21 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:21 <ghableska> #roulette\
05:21 <ghableska> #roulette
05:21 -!- ghableska was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:21  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:21 <spidey> lol
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05:22 <spidey> #roulette
05:22 <@armabot> spidey: *click*
05:22 <ghableska> #roulette
05:22 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:22 <spidey> #roulette
05:22 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:22  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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05:22 <spidey> ;x
05:22 <Skip> #roulette spin
05:22 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
05:22 <Skip> #roulette
05:22 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:22 <spidey> #roulette
05:22 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:22  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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05:22 <spidey> omg..
05:23 <Skip> #roulette
05:23 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:23  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:23 <spidey> lol
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05:23 <spidey> #spin
05:23 <Skip> that's worse than the shooting game in tron
05:23 <spidey> lol
05:23 <ghableska> #roulette
05:23 -!- ghableska was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:23  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:23 <spidey> heh
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05:23 <spidey> #roulette spin
05:23 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
05:23 <Skip> #weather spidey
05:23 <@armabot> Skip: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "spidey".
05:23 <Skip> #roulette
05:23 <spidey> #kill skip
05:23 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:24 <Skip> #insult armabot
05:24 <@armabot> armabot - You are nothing but a reeky mound of squishy assholes. 
05:24 <spidey> #roulette skip
05:24 <@armabot> spidey: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:24 <Skip> #roulette spidey
05:24 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:25 <Skip> #roulette
05:25 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:25 <ghableska> #roulette
05:25 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:25 <ghableska> spidey: your turn
05:25 <Skip> \_/ no me
05:25 <Skip> #roulette
05:25 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:25 <Skip> #wake spidey
05:25 <ghableska> #roulette
05:25 -!- ghableska was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:25  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:26 <Skip> #roulette sping
05:26 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
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05:26 <ghableska> >_>
05:26 <Skip> #roulette god
05:26 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:26 <ghableska> ugh
05:26 <Skip> #roulette god
05:26 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:26 <Skip> #roulette
05:26 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:26 <ghableska> #roulette
05:26 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:26 <Skip> #roulette
05:26 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:26  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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05:26 <ghableska> #roulette
05:26 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:26 <Skip> #roulette
05:26 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:26 <ghableska> I'm done
05:26 <Skip> #roulette
05:27 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:27  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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05:27 <Skip> good choice
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05:30 <Skip> #roulette Skip
05:30 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:31 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette spin
05:31 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
05:31 <[NP]Tangent> yeap
05:32 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:32 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:32 <spidey> #roulette spin
05:32 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
05:32 <spidey> #roulette
05:32 <@armabot> spidey: *click*
05:32 <[NP]Tangent> I ARE WINNAR
05:32 <[NP]Tangent> spidey is winnar too
05:32 <spidey> not yet :p
05:32 <spidey> it's not over till all 8 chambers are fired :p
05:33 <[NP]Tangent> #spin
05:33 <spidey> no
05:33 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette spin
05:33 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
05:33 <[NP]Tangent> whoops
05:33 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:33 -!- [NP]Tangent was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:33 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-212-209-112.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
05:33  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:33 <spidey> haha
05:33 <[NP]Tangent> I win!
05:34 <spidey> joo r teH poont
05:34 <[NP]Tangent> it's all true
05:38 <GodTodd> j00 al r fscking nvts
05:38 <[NP]Tangent> alright
05:38 <[NP]Tangent> that's getting stupid now
05:39 <Skip> hmmmm... is this my lucky day
05:39 <Skip> #roulette
05:39 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:39 <Skip> Bahahaha
05:40 <[NP]Tangent> #roulet
05:40 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:40 -!- [NP]Tangent was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:40 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-212-209-112.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
05:40  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:40 <[NP]Tangent> alright
05:40 <[NP]Tangent> you know what
05:40 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:40 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:40 <[NP]Tangent> thanks, asshat
05:40 <Skip> #roulette
05:40 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:40 <ghableska> #roulette
05:40 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:41 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:41 -!- [NP]Tangent was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:41 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-212-209-112.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
05:41  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:41 <Skip> lmao
05:41 <[NP]Tangent> WTF!
05:41 <ghableska> haha
05:41 <[NP]Tangent> noone else gets kicked
05:41 <Skip> #roulette Ghab
05:41 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:41 <[NP]Tangent> yet I get it 3 times
05:41 <Skip> #roulette god
05:41 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:41 <Skip> #roulette baby
05:41 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:41 <Skip> #roulette
05:41 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:41 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:41 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:41 <[NP]Tangent> ...
05:42 <ghableska> #roulette
05:42 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:42 <ghableska> whew
05:42 <Skip> #roulette
05:42 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:42  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:42 <ghableska> :P
05:42 -!- Skip [i=irc4u@71.237.34.67] has joined #armagetron
05:42 <Skip> #roulette
05:42 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:42 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette spin
05:42 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
05:42 <ghableska> #roulette
05:42 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:42 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:42 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:42 <Skip> #roulette
05:42 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:42 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:42 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:42 <Skip> hahaha
05:42 <ghableska> #roulette
05:42 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:43 <ghableska> :)
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:43 -!- [NP]Tangent was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:43 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-212-209-112.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
05:43  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> 4 TIMES
05:43 <ghableska> hah
05:43 <Skip> bastard took my turn
05:43 <ghableska> #roulette
05:43 <Skip> #roulette 1
05:43 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:43 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:43 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:43 <Skip> #roulette
05:43 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:43 <ghableska> #roulette
05:43 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette spin
05:43 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:43 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:43 <ghableska> #roulette
05:43 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
05:43 <Skip> #roulette bastards
05:43 <@armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
05:43 <Skip> #roulette
05:43 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:43 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:43 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:43 <ghableska> #roulette
05:43 -!- ghableska was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:43  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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05:44 <ghableska> about time
05:44 <Skip> #roulette
05:44 -!- Skip was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:44  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:44 -!- Skip [i=irc4u@71.237.34.67] has joined #armagetron
05:44 <ghableska> ha
05:44 <Skip> #roulette
05:44 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:44 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:44 -!- [NP]Tangent was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:44 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@71-212-209-112.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
05:44  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:44 <[NP]Tangent> 5
05:45 <ghableska> #roulette
05:45 -!- ghableska was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:45  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:45 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12.240.54.90] has joined #Armagetron
05:45 <Skip> #roulette
05:45 <@armabot> Skip: *click*
05:46 <[NP]Tangent> #roulette
05:46 <@armabot> [NP]Tangent: *click*
05:47 <ghableska> #weather 50265
05:47 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (10:23 PM CST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa.  Dense fog advisory in effect until 10 am CST Friday... 
05:47 <Skip> #weather 85305
05:47 <@armabot> Skip: The current temperature in Glendale, Arizona is 46.4°F (7:47 PM MST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa. 
05:47 <Skip> #weather 46409
05:47 <@armabot> Skip: The current temperature in Gary, Indiana is 53.6°F (9:46 PM CST on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa.  Dense fog advisory in effect until 12 PM CST Friday... 
05:48 <Skip> #weather spam
05:48 <Skip> #weather the
05:48 <@armabot> Skip: The current temperature in Arequipa, Peru is 53.6°F (11:00 PM PET on December 21, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa. 
05:48 <Skip> #weather bot
05:48 <@armabot> Skip: The current temperature in Teresina, Brazil is 82.4°F (1:00 AM BRT on December 22, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 73.4°F. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa. 
05:49 <@armabot> Skip: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "bot".
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06:04 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
06:04 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o armabot] by Lucifer_arma
06:04 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
06:05 <Skip> #insult Lucifer
06:05 <armabot> Lucifer - You are nothing but an off-color accumulation of unintelligent dog. 
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> I'm an off-color accumulation of Skip, how nice
06:05 <Skip> ouch
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12:39 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: #roulette spin does something
12:39 <wrtlprnft> the first time you do #roulette the chance you get shot is 1/6
12:39 <wrtlprnft> the second time you do #roulette the chance you get shot is 1/5
12:39 <wrtlprnft> the third time you do #roulette the chance you get shot is 1/4
12:40 <wrtlprnft> and so on, until someone gets shot or you do #roulette spin, then the chance is reset to 1/6
13:34 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/fortress/close_yet_fat-1.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
13:34 <wrtlprnft> oops
13:34  * wrtlprnft does the unthinkable—he deletes that map
13:35 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/fortress/close_yet_far-1.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
13:35 <wrtlprnft> evil done
13:35 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work: luke-jr_work 
13:39 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft/fortress/close_yet_far-1.aamap.xml
13:39 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft/fortress/close_yet_far-1.aamap.xml
13:39 <wrtlprnft> hmm, those are exactly the same
13:39 <wrtlprnft> so this shouldn't go wrong this time :=
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15:38 <Skip> #weather denver
15:38 <armabot> Skip: The current temperature in Denver, CO is 18.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Wind: S at 11 mph (18 km/h).
15:38 <Skip> ahrg
15:41 <DrJoeTron>  I want toejam and earl on the wii now please :(
16:11 <spidey> i want
16:11 <spidey> to go back to sleep
16:11 <spidey> ;x
16:11 <spidey> #night again!
16:12 <armabot> Good night spidey!
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16:53 <ghableska> hello
17:02 <wrtlprnft> hi
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17:23 <DrJoeTron> man
17:23 <DrJoeTron> ghableska I want that music back :/
17:23 <ghableska> what music?
17:23 <DrJoeTron> the server I made you go to
17:24 <ghableska> oh, that was an odd server
17:24 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
17:24 <ghableska> what was the goal, exactly?
17:24 <DrJoeTron> its surf
17:24 <DrJoeTron> it kinda sucks
17:24 <DrJoeTron> but its fun occasionaly
17:24 <ghableska> lol
17:24  * ghableska has been studying Europe for too long
17:24 <ghableska> that was why I wanted to spell it as "serf"
17:24 <ghableska> >_>
17:24 <DrJoeTron> and since it was goon ran
17:24 <DrJoeTron> its fucking weird
17:25 <DrJoeTron> you should've came on earlier
17:25 <ghableska> heh
17:25 <DrJoeTron> it was nothing but crashing, and dethklok blasting 
17:25 <DrJoeTron> and everytime it changed maps you had to reconnect
17:25 <DrJoeTron> it was 1998 all over again
17:26 <Canada> hey Joe
17:26 <DrJoeTron> whats up
17:26 <ghableska> it must have been fun :)
17:26 <Canada> notin much
17:26 <DrJoeTron> it was great :)
17:27 <Canada> i went to france for a month last summer, it was really fun
17:27 <DrJoeTron> have you had to download a billion quake sounds yet?
17:27 <Canada> talking about europ
17:27 <Canada> europe**
17:27 <DrJoeTron> talking about css with ghableska 
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17:27 <Canada> ok, well talk to you guys later
17:28 <DrJoeTron> I gotta show you some of the mp3's css has made me download ghableska 
17:28 <ghableska> haha
17:29 <ghableska> well, I set cl_downloadfilter nosounds...
17:29 <ghableska> ok DrJoeTron, I'm ready :)
17:33 <DrJoeTron> good
17:33 <DrJoeTron> go find a server
17:33 <ghableska> me? 
17:33  * ghableska doesn't have a clue about good servers
17:33 <DrJoeTron> ko
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18:05 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
18:13 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
18:14 <Vanhayes> did you get a half day off there too for christmas?
18:23 <ghableska> full day off today
18:27 <Vanhayes> ah, we got off around 12 here
18:28 <ghableska> :)
18:29 <Vanhayes> then again all it was was a variety show, which was pretty entertaining
18:33 <ghableska> o.0
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18:40 <Canada> does LinuxLizzard still play tron?
18:41 <Canada> hello? anyone there
18:42 <Lucifer_arma>  /ignore Canada
18:43 <Canada> what lucifer
18:43  * Lucifer_arma <<-- this lucifer
18:43 <Canada> why do you hate me, i ask a question and no body answers it....
18:43 <Canada> i ask if anyone is there
18:44 <Canada> no one accept you answers and you dont answer my question
18:44 <Canada> i'm guessing you dont know but that doesnt mean you have to make it clear that you dont really like me at all 
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> do I need to dig through the logs and find all the occurences of you bitching that the rest of us are off doing shit?
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> you have some of the worst irc manners in existence, and every time we try to tell you, you just bitch right back
18:45 <Lucifer_arma> go the fuck away
18:46 <Canada> if thats what you call 'good manners' then well, my manner was definatly bad, but really, you dont have to curse me out just to make a point
18:48 <Canada> but as you would probably know, i have better things to do other than listen to you cuss me out.
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18:57  * Lucifer_arma wonders what he said right before he left and right after Lucifer_arma (hi there!) put him on his ignore list
18:59 <DrJoeTron> <Canada> if thats what you call 'good manners' then well, my manner was definatly bad, but really, you dont have to curse me out just to make a point
18:59 <DrJoeTron> <Canada> but as you would probably know, i have better things to do other than listen to you cuss me out.
18:59 <DrJoeTron> he learns fast :d
18:59 <DrJoeTron> but forgets it
18:59 <DrJoeTron> he's like a cat
19:01 <Lucifer_arma> it wasn't like it's the first time anybody here has said anything to him
19:02 <Lucifer_arma> at least he finally listened and did exactly what I told hiim to do.  :)
19:09 <wrtlprnft> #g log(3/4) / log(2)
19:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: log(3 / 4) / log(2) = -0.415037499
19:09 <wrtlprnft> though I think he wants SIZE_FACTOR to be .75
19:09 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(2)^.75
19:09 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(2)^.75 = 1.29683955
19:14 <luke-jr_work> spidey: your proof is in the mail
19:15 <ghableska> haha
19:16 <luke-jr_work> Lucifer_arma: nah, exactly wouldn't have included responding
19:16 <Lucifer_arma> didn't I ignore luke-jr_work (hi there!) ?
19:18 <luke-jr_work> many times
19:18 <luke-jr_work> but not this time, apparently
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19:37 <ghableska> #weather 60265
19:38 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:38 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "60265".
19:38 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 39.2°F (12:12 PM CST on December 22, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa. 
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> #cnn 78717
19:40 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Round Rock, TX is 57.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 30%. Wind: NNE at 6 mph (10 km/h).
19:40 <Lucifer_arma> brrrr
19:42 <spidey> #cnn 38256
19:42 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 53.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Wind: SW at 7 mph (11 km/h).
19:56 <wrtlprnft> #ping
--- Log closed Fri Dec 22 20:01:39 2006
--- Log opened Fri Dec 22 20:01:47 2006
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21:58 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
21:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM AST; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness early this evening. Low minus 6 with temperature rising to plus 3 by morning.; Saturday - Cloudy. Rain beginning in the morning. Amount 15 mm. Wind becoming south 20 km/h in the morning then southeast (1 more message)
21:58 <Vanhayes> #more
21:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: 30 gusting to 50 in the afternoon. High 8. Saturday night..rain ending overnight then clearing. Amount 10 to 20 mm. Fog patches developing in the evening and dissipating overnight. Wind southeast 30 km/h gusting to 50 becoming west 30 late in the evening. Low plus 2.; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud with 30 percent chance of showers. High plus 5.;
22:20 <yojimbo> are you the real player 1?
22:20 <yojimbo> where is the party?
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22:28 <Lucifer_arma> it's in your mouth, everyone's coming
23:25 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: what did you do to your ping?
23:27 <Vanhayes> nothing, it just got really good 
23:27 <Vanhayes> on your servers anyways, still sucks on some
23:28 <wrtlprnft> my server isn't that good right now as there's some friends of mine playing css on it
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23:33 <ghableska> #weather 50265
23:33 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 39.2°F (3:54 PM CST on December 22, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011 hPa. 
23:37 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: pong
23:38 <ghableska> #armaservers
23:39 <armabot> ghableska: Norm's Place (12 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (11 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || MicroBusCity.com (7 players) || The Lobster Cage (6 players) || Legendary Clan (1 more message)
23:39 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
23:39 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): A Dude, Blitz, G5, GADFLY, Goodygumdrops, pennymiser, Wazoo, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ~*SP*~Sasha, ~*SP*~Zombie
23:52 <ghableska> #later tell wrtlprnft fortress cafe just crashed
23:53 <armabot> ghableska: The operation succeeded.

Log from 2006-12-23:
--- Day changed Sat Dec 23 2006
00:01 <wrtlprnft> err
00:02 <wrtlprnft> hmm
00:02 <wrtlprnft> everyone timed out
00:02 <wrtlprnft> aww, this sucks :(
00:03 <wrtlprnft> probably some realworld network issue
00:03 <wrtlprnft> i wonder if the same happened on ctwf
00:05 <wrtlprnft> yeah, at the same time, too
00:06 <wrtlprnft> so all servers hosted by ct and me went down for a few minutes
00:06 <wrtlprnft> #monologue
00:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Your current monologue is at least 9 lines long.
00:06 <wrtlprnft> isn't that a long monologue?
00:06 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i think so
00:06 <wrtlprnft> actually, not that long
00:06 <wrtlprnft> true
00:09 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails cafe
00:09 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
00:11 <wrtlprnft> :(
00:11 <wrtlprnft> didn't fill up again
00:11 <wrtlprnft> and i'll go to bed soon
00:13 <wrtlprnft> #night
00:13 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
00:15 <ghableska> #monologue
00:15 <armabot> ghableska: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
00:15 <ghableska> o.0
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00:36 <Canada> #dict Zephyr
00:36 <armabot> Canada: wn, gazetteer, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gazetteer: Zephyr, TX Zip code(s): 76890; wn: zephyr n 1: a slight wind (usually refreshing); "the breeze was cooled by the lake"; "as he waited he could feel the air on his neck" [syn: {breeze}, {gentle wind}, {air}] 2: (Greek mythology) the Greek god of the west wind; moby-thes: 41 Moby Thesaurus words for "zephyr": air, blubber, breeze, butter, (3 more messages)
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00:37 <Skip> #dict Systems Theory
00:37 <armabot> Skip: No definition for "Systems Theory" could be found.
00:37 <ghableska> #uberinsult
00:37 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
00:37 <Skip> #dict Computational Neuroscience
00:37 <Canada> :D
00:37 <armabot> Skip: No definition for "Computational Neuroscience" could be found.
00:38 <Skip> #dict Cybernetics
00:38 <Canada> skip, stop making up words
00:38 <armabot> Skip: wn, foldoc, and moby-thes responded: wn: cybernetics n : (biology) the field of science concerned with processes of communication and control (especially the comparison of these processes in biological and artificial systems); moby-thes: 49 Moby Thesaurus words for "cybernetics": aerobiology, agrobiology, anatomy, astrobiology, automatic electronics, autonetics, bacteriology, biochemics, biochemistry, (6 more messages)
00:38 <Canada> lol
00:38 <Skip> #dict Artificial Intelligence
00:38 -!- Canada is now known as Zephyr
00:38 <armabot> Skip: wn and foldoc responded: wn: artificial intelligence n : the branch of computer science that deal with writing computer programs that can solve problems creatively; "workers in AI hope to imitate or duplicate intelligence in computers and robots" [syn: {AI}]; foldoc: artificial intelligence <artificial intelligence> (AI) The subfield of computer science concerned with the concepts and methods of (4 more messages)
00:38 <Skip> Okay it works
00:38 <Zephyr> #uberinsult
00:38 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
00:39 -!- Zephyr is now known as Canada
00:39 <Canada> lol
00:39 <Canada> who made it say that
00:39 <Skip> #roulette Canada
00:39 <armabot> Skip: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
00:39 <Canada> wtf does that mean
00:39 <Van-hayes> type roulette
00:39 <Skip> #roulette
00:39 <armabot> Skip: *click*
00:39 <Canada> #roulete skip
00:39 <ghableska> #roulette
00:39 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:39  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:39 -!- Van-hayes is now known as Vanhayes
00:39 <ghableska> aww
00:40 <Skip> nice ghab
00:40 <ghableska> I liked it before
00:40 <Canada> i'm dead?
00:40 <Vanhayes> ya, when it kicked you out, heh
00:40 <Canada> :O
00:40 <Canada> skip shot me, its going dark
00:40 <Canada> *hangs tung*
00:40  * Skip tests
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00:41 <Canada> #em test
00:41 <Canada> #me tests
00:41 <Skip> #dict Canada
00:41 <armabot> Skip: wn, gazetteer, gcide, and foldoc responded: gazetteer: Canada, KY Zip code(s): 41519; foldoc: Canada Country with {domain} "ca". (1995-04-06); gcide: Canada \Ca*[~n]a"da\, n. [Sp.] 1. A small ca[~n]on; a narrow valley or glen; also, but less frequently, an open valley. [Local, Western U. S.] [1913 Webster] 2. A dry riverbed. [PJC]; wn: Canada n : a nation in northern North America; the French (3 more messages)
00:42 <Canada> real answer: a mindless innocent that everyone accuses of being annoying
00:42 <Skip> #dict Antidisestablishmentarianism
00:42 <armabot> Skip: gcide: antidisestablishmentarianism \an`ti*dis`es*tab`lish*men*ta"ri*an*ism\ ([a^]n*t[-e]*d[i^]s`[e^]s*t[a^]b`l[i^]sh*men*t[^a]r"[-e]*[a^]n*[i^]z'm), n. the doctrine or political position that opposes the withdrawal of state recognition of an established church; -- used especially concerning the Anglican Church in England. Opposed to {disestablishmentarianism}. [PJC]
00:42 <Canada> #dict skip
00:43 <armabot> Canada: wn, gcide, vera, and moby-thes responded: vera: SKIP Simple Key-management for Internet Protocols (Internet, cryptography, Sun); gcide: Skip \Skip\, v. t. 1. To leap lightly over; as, to skip the rope. [1913 Webster] 2. To pass over or by without notice; to omit; to miss; as, to skip a line in reading; to skip a lesson. [1913 Webster] They who have a mind to see the issue may skip these two (12 more messages)
00:43 <Canada> #dict mindless
00:43 <armabot> Canada: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Mindless \Mind"less\, a. 1. Not indued with mind or intellectual powers; stupid; unthinking. [1913 Webster] 2. Unmindful; inattentive; heedless; careless. [1913 Webster] Cursed Athens, mindless of thy worth. --Shak. [1913 Webster]; wn: mindless adj 1: lacking the thinking capacity characteristic of a conscious being; "the shrieking of the mindless wind" 2: (8 more messages)
00:43 <Canada> #dict innocent
00:43 <armabot> Canada: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Innocent \In"no*cent\, n. 1. An innocent person; one free from, or unacquainted with, guilt or sin. --Shak. [1913 Webster] 2. An unsophisticated person; hence, a child; a simpleton; an idiot. --B. Jonson. [1913 Webster] In Scotland a natural fool was called an innocent. --Sir W. Scott. [1913 Webster] {Innocents' day} (Eccl.), Childermas day. [1913 Webster]; (12 more messages)
00:44 <Canada> #uberinsult
00:44 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
00:44 <Canada> :O
00:44 <Canada> who wrote that!
00:44 <Canada> who made it say that lol
00:44 <Canada> i'm betting lucifer
00:45 <Canada> he thinks i have the worst manners of anyone in irc
00:45 <Canada> and he hates me
00:45 <Skip> #insult Canada
00:45 <armabot> Canada - You are nothing but a motley-mind plate of warped balls. 
00:46 <Canada> #uberinsult skip
00:46 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
00:46 <Skip> #uberinsult
00:46 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
00:46 <Canada> that is a uber insukt
00:46 <Canada> insult**
00:47 <Canada> #dict void
00:47 <armabot> Canada: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Void \Void\, v. i. To be emitted or evacuated. --Wiseman. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Void \Void\, n. An empty space; a vacuum. [1913 Webster] Pride, where wit fails, steps in to our defense, And fills up all the mighty void of sense. --Pope. [1913 Webster]; wn: void adj 1: lacking any legal or binding force; "null and void" [syn: {null}] 2: (24 more messages)
00:49 <Canada> #weather santa barbra
00:49 <armabot> Canada: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "santa barbra".
00:49 <Canada> #weather heaven
00:49 <armabot> Canada: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "heaven".
00:49 <Canada> #dict heavent
00:49 <armabot> Canada: No definition for "heavent" could be found.
00:50 <Canada> #dict heaven
00:50 <armabot> Canada: easton, wn, devils, gcide, and moby-thes responded: devils: HEAVEN, n. A place where the wicked cease from troubling you with talk of their personal affairs, and the good listen with attention while you expound your own; wn: heaven n 1: any place of complete bliss and delight and peace [syn: {eden}, {paradise}, {nirvana}, {promised land}, {Shangri-la}] 2: the abode of God and the angels [ant: (21 more messages)
00:50 <Canada> nirvana :P
00:50 <Canada> #dict crap
00:50 <armabot> Canada: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Crap \Crap\ (kr[a^]p), v. 1. to defecate. Same as {take a crap}. [vulgar] [PJC]; gcide: Crap \Crap\ (kr[a^]p), n. 1. In the game of craps, a first throw of the dice in which the total is two, three, or twelve, in which case the caster loses. Also called {craps}. [Webster 1913 Suppl. +PJC] 2. same as {excrement} and {feces}. [vulgar] Syn: shit. [PJC] 3. (4 more messages)
00:51 <Canada> theres a game valled crap?
00:53 <Vanhayes> craps, its gambling
00:56 <spidey> LOL
00:56 <ghableska> spidey
00:56 <spidey> what
00:56 <ghableska> ?
00:56 <spidey> ?
00:56 <ghableska> s3d?
00:56 <spidey> maybe
00:57 <ghableska> cs:s? :P
00:57 <spidey> ..
00:57 <spidey> don't play
00:57 <DrJoeTron> haha
00:57 <Skip> Eve Online? p.o
00:57 <DrJoeTron> ghableska I should be coming back in a few
00:57 <DrJoeTron> Goon Fleet!
00:58 <ghableska> yeah, you know those 64 player servers?
00:58 <ghableska> I can never connect to one
00:58 <DrJoeTron> are crap? or filled with bots?
00:58 <DrJoeTron> yeah they're never really 64
00:58 <ghableska> oh
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00:58 <spidey> go AWAY JOE
00:58 <DrJoeTron> bbl
00:59 <DrJoeTron> oh I gotta stop in the server
00:59 <spidey> pwn
01:12 <Canada> hey spidey
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01:20 <DrJoeTron> spidey would fit in with CS:S
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01:54 <ghableska> #weather 50265
01:54 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 37.4°F (5:54 PM CST on December 22, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa. 
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02:37 <Seyahnav> #ping
02:37 <armabot> pong
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03:01 <luke-jr_work> ghableska: the 500 player one is really 500 :p
03:08 <ghableska> ...?
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04:27 <Arma088> hey
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05:14 <Lucifer_arma> any aussies here right now?
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05:32 <ghableska> #weather 50265
05:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 35.6°F (10:02 PM CST on December 22, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa. 
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06:02 <ghableska> #night
06:02 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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06:25 <RickyRoss> luke-jr i would like to pay for next month
06:25 <RickyRoss> i paid this month on 12th
06:25 <RickyRoss> i'll pay in advance
06:26 <RickyRoss> hello
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06:32 <Arma699> hey hey hey
06:32 <Arma699> bye bye bye
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11:02 <spidey> OMG
11:45 <DrJoeTron> what
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16:57 <luke-jr_work> #later tell RickyRoss ok, I setup online payment for you-- from the admin interface
16:57 <armabot> luke-jr_work: The operation succeeded.
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17:17 <GodTodd> #later tell GodTodd you rule!
17:17 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
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17:22 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/Legend_maps/low_rubber-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
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17:37 <ghableska> #later tell GodTodd you suck!
17:37 <armabot> ghableska: The operation succeeded.
17:38 <ghableska> :)
17:39 <GodTodd> #later tell ghableska Verbal abuse will not be tolerated :P
17:39 <armabot> GodTodd: The operation succeeded.
17:44 <ghableska> ...
17:46 <GodTodd> !!!
17:49  * ghableska checks the weather once again
17:49 <ghableska> #weather 50265
17:49 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (9:54 AM CST on December 23, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa. 
17:51 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
17:51 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Tularosa, New Mexico is 45.3°F (9:46 AM MST on December 23, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa. 
17:55 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
17:55 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 48.7°F (10:55 AM CST on December 23, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa. 
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18:45 <ghableska> #armaservers
18:45 <armabot> ghableska: Norm's Place (12 players) || Super Duck Hyphy N a n o Fortress!! (9 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (9 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (7 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (7 players) || Legendary Clan Server ^}LC}< (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (6 players) || The Lobster Cage (5 players) (1 more message)
18:46 <ghableska> #serverdetails
18:46 <armabot> ghableska: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
18:46 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
18:46 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): <GG>GoldGiant, Ennio, én vagyok, MaZe, ozzy, Sticky, Super Duck!, ~*SP*~Sp33d, ¦×¥Skip <3
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19:02 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
19:02 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
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19:09 <DrJoeTron> will joe be accepted to a closed beta test!?
19:09 <ghableska> yes!
19:10 <DrJoeTron> I better!
19:10 <ghableska> what's it for?
19:10 <DrJoeTron> eXteel
19:10 <DrJoeTron> its by NCsoft
19:10 <ghableska> ...?
19:10 <DrJoeTron> think Gunz, only not shitty
19:10 <DrJoeTron> and with giant robots
19:11 <ghableska> ok
19:11 <DrJoeTron> so more like Virtual On
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19:13 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: do you also have trouble connecting to some of the cs:s server? LO
19:13 <ghableska> *:P
19:13 <DrJoeTron> you always will
19:13 <GodTodd> liar
19:14 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd WHAT?! GAWD! WHY DO YOU ALWAYS CURSE ME OUT!?
19:14  * ghableska gets in the car
19:14 <GodTodd> cuz you deserve it
19:14 <GodTodd> #insult DrJoeTron
19:14 <armabot> DrJoeTron - You are nothing but a pickled gob of pointy-nosed IPC. 
19:14 <DrJoeTron> I DONT HAVE TO SIT HERE AND TAKE IT FROMS OME GUY ON THE INTERENET I DONTEVEN KNOW LOL
19:14 <GodTodd> heh
19:15 <DrJoeTron> #uberinsult GodTodd 
19:15 <armabot> You're not even the void in Canada's head
19:15 <DrJoeTron> :O
19:15 <ghableska> heh
19:15 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd...I swear... I didn't mean it
19:15 <ghableska> #insult GodTodd
19:15 <armabot> GodTodd - You are nothing but a plume-plucked tongueful of loggerheaded craptacular. 
19:15 <DrJoeTron> Baby, I can change...
19:18 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails cafe
19:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): A Dude, ct|SeBoL158, Ennio, ghableska, Kiba, Player 1, Raziel, Speed, Super Duck!, ZERbot, ¦×¥Skip <3
19:19 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails Cage
19:19 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: Players (3/7): Dartman, lilspaz, Voip
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19:54 <wrtlprnft> wtf?!
19:54 <wrtlprnft> i opened a text file with vim, and it's displaying a picture?
19:55 <wrtlprnft> how cool is that?
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19:57 <Arma633> is masterport 4533?
19:57 -!- Arma633 is now known as HIM
19:57 <HIM> is masterport 4533?
19:58 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:59 <wrtlprnft> vim's highlighting for XPM rocks :)
20:04 <HIM> ok
20:13 <wrtlprnft> udp, of course
20:18 <HIM> wrtprnft if i can see my server on list but noone else can what is wrong
20:19 <HIM> ??
20:20 <HIM> ×Ð
20:20 <wrtlprnft> it's probably unreachable
20:20 <wrtlprnft> note that armagetron itself runs on port 4534 by default
20:20 <wrtlprnft> so you need to open that port on your router/firewall
20:21 <HIM> wrtlprnft i can see my server and play on it but when i ask my friends he cant find it
20:21 <wrtlprnft> i just told you a possible cause.
20:21 <HIM> wrtlprnft i have already open that port
20:22 <wrtlprnft> what's your IP?
20:23 <HIM> 217.210.87.111
20:23 <wrtlprnft> unreachable
20:23 <HIM> how i chance it?
20:23 <wrtlprnft> either the ip is wrong, the server is not running, or the port is not open
20:23 <HIM> wait an second
20:24 <HIM> look if it is running now
20:24 <wrtlprnft> still the same
20:25 <HIM> ok but do i right| i chance config files | start dedicated|
20:25 <HIM> did i something wrong?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> probably something's blocking it
20:26 <wrtlprnft> firewall or router
20:26 <wrtlprnft> if it's a router, are you sure you entered the correct internal IP to forward to?
20:26 <HIM> ok i will look at firewall but we dont have a firewall i think
20:26 <HIM> yeah
20:27 <HIM> i already let armagetron dedicated use internet i have norton antivirus
20:27 <wrtlprnft> do you have a router?
20:27 <HIM> yeah
20:29 <wrtlprnft> then you need to configure that
20:29 <HIM> ah shit the same i can always play on other servers
20:30 <wrtlprnft> that's normal, the router should let you do that
20:39 <DrJoeTron> oh man
20:39 <DrJoeTron> picking on wall humpers is so fun
20:40 <DrJoeTron> and its always "I don't suck you're cheating!"
20:54 <HIM> haha
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21:09  * GodTodd doesn't play tron much...armagetronad people are too mean. :(
21:53  * Lucifer_arma slaps GodTodd (hi there!) 
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22:00  * GodTodd notes Lucifer_arma just proved his point. :P
22:11  * Lucifer_arma smiles
22:14  * GodTodd gets creeped out...then turned on.
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> freak
22:15 <GodTodd> and?
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> what, can't tell a compliment when you see it?
22:15 <Lucifer_arma> it's not like i give many of them...
22:15 <GodTodd> sure i can heh
22:16 <Lucifer_arma> man, qt4 is awesome
22:22 <Lucifer_arma> <marloshome> no worries, my engorish were better when i was wenting to school
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22:27 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
22:27 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): CT|P4, Jonathan, K00bl4I, Player 1, santan claus, |Unreal|, ~5558827~, ¦Ö¦Qico
22:27 <ghableska> #serverdetails styball
22:27 <armabot> ghableska: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: No online players.
22:41 <guru3> #serverdetails tigers
22:41 <armabot> guru3: Tigers Network Classic Play: Players (9/16): chrisw, Cyrus, Fiishy, GypsyStyle, parvus, sumdrak, Terrorzwerg, ThatGuy, the_overmind
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22:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, packet8 turned my phone back on, but only after antagonizing us
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23:28 <Lucifer_arma> so, vValue is basically QVariant
23:35 <wrtlprnft> yeah
23:36 <wrtlprnft> with lots of stuff added
23:36 <wrtlprnft> but you aren't going to add a qt dependency, right?
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23:44 <wrtlprnft> why do i have the feeling that all i do is revert changes on the wiki?
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23:51 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: no, of course not.  I'm the one bitching we have too many compile-time dependencies :)
23:51 <Lucifer_arma> (required, that is.  If most of them could be made optional, no complaint)
23:52 <wrtlprnft> well, the question is, shall we copy the boost things we need over or try to use the stuff that's already there but undocumented?
23:52 <wrtlprnft> like tJUST_CONTROLLED_PTR and tReferencable
23:52 <wrtlprnft> or just reimplement them? I've got a working implementation of shared_ptr here without even looking at boost's source code
23:53 <|Sticky|> whats the address for an arma svn checkout??
23:53 <wrtlprnft> sec
23:53 <wrtlprnft> vn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad
23:53 <wrtlprnft> or svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
23:53 <wrtlprnft> whatever you need :)
23:53 <|Sticky|> ty
23:54 <wrtlprnft> yw
23:55 <|Sticky|> im just wanting to take a quick look...ive read some paper about using distrobuted servers to reduce lag and wanted to see how easy it would be in tron
23:56 <|Sticky|> sounds like a peer-to-peer connection system could also be a good idea
23:56 <|Sticky|> ls
23:57 <|Sticky|> oops wrong window
23:57 <wrtlprnft> sounds nice, good luck
23:57 <wrtlprnft> but that will be a lot of work
23:57 <|Sticky|> yeah this is why i want to take a quick look to see howmuch works
23:58 <|Sticky|> thouht the distorbuted server may not be too bad
23:58 <wrtlprnft> it would rock to only have the masters we have right now to connect the clients and then have the clients do everything on their own
23:59 <wrtlprnft> anyways
23:59 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:59 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:59 <|Sticky|> yeah...would have thought more bandwith per user usage tho
23:59 <|Sticky|> cya
23:59 <wrtlprnft> user bandwidth is cheap

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00:02 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: the answer is obvious.  Do either of those, and remove the boost dependency.  :)
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> philippe introduced the boost dependency because he didn't see how the stuff we already had would do what he wants.  If someone were to make it do what he wants, then he won't need the boost dependency
00:03 <Lucifer_arma> and as useful as boost may be, I'm not willing to have a dependency (especially that large) just because it "has a lot of useful stuff".  :)
00:03 <|Sticky|> boost is quite cool
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> ever try to install it in a gentoo installation?
00:04 <Lucifer_arma> took 3 hours on my laptop running at 1.6ghz (athlon xp)
00:04 <|Sticky|> naa cygwin...infinatly harder im sure
00:04 <|Sticky|> heh...yeah it is big
00:06 <Lucifer_arma> and "quite cool" isn't exactly justification for us having it as a dependency :)
00:07 <Lucifer_arma> boost's website says the library is designed to be cut up into small pieces you copy into your project and use thataway, and I don't object to that
00:08 <Lucifer_arma> no extra dependency, compile-time or runtime.  (it's still a code dependency, but I'm willing to take that dependency)
00:09 <|Sticky|> arma has a shockingly large amount of code
00:12 <Lucifer_arma> not really :)
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> I guess it depends on how you look at it.  It might be less code if there were less hand-crafted stuff and more...er...dependencies
00:13 <Lucifer_arma> there'd be a lot less code if it were written in python :)
00:14  * Lucifer_arma says while he's editing a 700 line file for one widget in his checkbook program
00:16 <|Sticky|> heh..yeah I think thats probably why i look at it and just go wow...they have reimplemend many libraries that are freely available
00:17 <|Sticky|> gona take me a while to get my head around what is happening in this code
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02:25 <spidey> zomg
02:48 <ghableska_> ...
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02:59 <spidey> ...
02:59 <spidey> dude
02:59 <spidey> i can't feel my foot
03:05 <spidey> DrJoeTron, piiiiiiiiiing
03:09 <ghableska_> #weather 50265
03:09 <armabot> ghableska_: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 32.0°F (7:54 PM CST on December 23, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa. 
03:09 <ghableska_> can you feel it now?
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03:20 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
03:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.42in / 996hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM AST; Tonight - Rain ending near midnight then cloudy. Amount 10 to 15 mm. Fog patches dissipating overnight. Wind southeast 30 km/h gusting to 50 becoming light this evening. Wind becoming west 20 gusting to 40 overnight. Low plus 2.; Sunday - (1 more message)
03:20 <Vanhayes> #more
03:20 <armabot> Vanhayes: Cloudy with sunny periods. 60 percent chance of showers in the afternoon. Wind west 20 km/h gusting to 40. High plus 4. Sunday night..clearing in the evening. Wind northwest 40 km/h gusting to 60 becoming west 30 near midnight. Low minus 2.; Monday - Sunny. High plus 3.;
03:21 <Vanhayes> ugh, its going to be a green/brown christmas this year
03:23 <ghableska> LOL
03:36 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: did you ever mail that box?
03:36 <[NP]Tangent> so guys
03:36 <[NP]Tangent> guess who graduated from High School on Wednesday
03:36 <[NP]Tangent> <--
03:37 <Lucifer_arma> why so late?
03:39 <Vanhayes> half semester?
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: DrJoeTron (hi there!) DrJoeTron (hi there!) DrJoeTron (hi there!) ping ping ping ping ping!
03:39 <Lucifer_arma> :)
03:39 <[NP]Tangent> yeah
03:39 <[NP]Tangent> graduated one semester early
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> oh, not one semester late?
03:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'd congratulate you, but last I heard you were American, and graduating from high school in america is hardly an accomplishment :)
03:41  * Lucifer_arma is just a cloud of happiness today
03:43 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma pong?
03:43 <[NP]Tangent> yeah, I'm American
03:43 <[NP]Tangent> oh well
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: did you send that box yet?
03:43 <[NP]Tangent> not really my fault though
03:43 <Lucifer_arma> not trying to assess blame or anything, just that finishing high school was only a milestone for me becuase it meant I could move out of my parents' house and go have my own life
03:44 <[NP]Tangent> yeah
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> and since then, the education system has gotten so fucked up that finishing high school is more of an accomplishment in conformity than it is a feat of intelligence/hard work/whatever
03:44 <[NP]Tangent> that will be my next step
03:44 <Lucifer_arma> so, congrats that you can finally get on with your life :)
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03:46 <Lucifer_arma> I would complain that joe ponged and then disappeared, but I do that all the time
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03:57 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: DrJoeTron (hi there!) DrJoeTron (hi there!) DrJoeTron (hi there!) ping ping ping ping ping!
04:19 <Vanhayes> #weather 10601
04:19 <armabot> Vanhayes: The current temperature in White Plains, New York is 46.4°F (9:56 PM EST on December 23, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa. 
04:53 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
04:53 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Tularosa, New Mexico is 39.4°F (8:51 PM MST on December 23, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa. 
04:59 -!- C10ud [n=45ab0b9f@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
04:59 <C10ud> hey
04:59 <C10ud> where's custang
04:59 <C10ud> lol
05:00 -!- custang [n=caadb73a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
05:00 <C10ud> hey!
05:00 <custang> hey
05:00 <DrJoeTron> is lol some sort of punctuation I dont know about?
05:00 <C10ud> yeah
05:00 <C10ud> LOL
05:00 <C10ud> lol = laughing out loud
05:00 <DrJoeTron> thats not punctuation
05:00 <custang> hehe
05:00 <C10ud> its an acronym
05:00 <C10ud> LOL
05:00 <C10ud> or mdr if ur french
05:00 <C10ud> :D
05:00 <C10ud> i have friends all over
05:00 <C10ud> :D
05:01 <C10ud> this is cool
05:01 <DrJoeTron> I'm going to guess 9/10 that you're not really laughing out loud
05:01 <C10ud> i should do this for my IRC
05:01 <C10ud> correct u are
05:01 <C10ud> im laughing in my head
05:01 <C10ud> i would be out loud
05:01 <DrJoeTron> so you're a liar then?
05:01 <C10ud> but everyone is asleep
05:01 <DrJoeTron> :)
05:01 <C10ud> lol
05:01 <C10ud> :D
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> no, you should only use lol if you really are laughing out loud irl
05:01 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: hey, did you send that box yet?
05:02 <custang> hahaha
05:02 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma no, I'm sorry 
05:02 <DrJoeTron> ive been held up
05:02 <DrJoeTron> by gypsies
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> np, just realized it hadnt come yet and was wondering
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> gypsies, eh?
05:02 <DrJoeTron> haha
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> were they hot?
05:02 <DrJoeTron> nah
05:02 <C10ud> lol
05:02 <C10ud> slash commands don't work here :(
05:02 <C10ud> i cant do /list
05:02 <Lucifer_arma> if you're really laughing out loud, record it and send it to me
05:02 <C10ud> don't have a mic
05:03 <C10ud> sry :D
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> try again, the do work here
05:03 <C10ud> i get nothing
05:03 <Lucifer_arma> that's an easy excuse.   Fine, you're forbidden to use "lol" until you can prove you really are laughing out loud
05:03 <C10ud> it doesnt even say /list
05:03 <custang> list doesnt work 
05:03 <C10ud> so
05:03 <C10ud> idc
05:03 <C10ud> don't u guys ever use abbreviations?
05:03 <custang> haha i do care
05:03 <C10ud> u say lol if u think somethings funny
05:03 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
05:03 <C10ud> lol very funny custang
05:04 <C10ud> hmm
05:04 <C10ud> i need anew one
05:04 <custang> :o Lucifer_arma mod now
05:04 <@Lucifer_arma> actually, I don't, I usually just type hahahaha
05:04 <custang> s:)
05:04 <C10ud> like lis
05:04 <C10ud> lis
05:04 <C10ud> laughing inside
05:04 <C10ud> :D
05:04 <custang> sok hehehehe
05:04 <C10ud> lis
05:04 <C10ud> :D
05:04 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
05:04 <DrJoeTron> haha suffices
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> hahahahahahahahaha when it's really funny
05:04 <C10ud> takes 2 long
05:04 <custang> use lawl
05:04 <Lucifer_arma> wtf when it's something DrJoeTron (hi there!) said
05:04 <C10ud> :D
05:05 <DrJoeTron> agrees
05:05 <DrJoeTron> herp derp
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> wtf
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> better thiing to do is to just not talk until you turn 13 and stop using aol, since it's well known that only 12yo aol kids use LOL as a full stop
05:05 <C10ud> our conversation was better when we were posting on ddl, custang
05:05 <C10ud> :D
05:05 <C10ud> :D
05:06  * C10ud hates AOL
05:06 <C10ud> aka A-O-Smell
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> then quit acting like an aoler!
05:06 <C10ud> it was voted the worst tech product of all time by PC world
05:06 <custang> sok bye guys brb in 20 mins lunch
05:06 <C10ud> im not
05:06 <C10ud> lol
05:06 <C10ud> k
05:06 <custang> lawl
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05:06 <C10ud> cya custang
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> putting "lol" on its own line after you say something is the AOL brand
05:06 <Lucifer_arma> it means you're an aol-lover
05:06 <C10ud> guess im out too cus thats y i got on first
05:07 <C10ud> no its not
05:07 <DrJoeTron> C10ud, you know what really sucks about first impressions?
05:07  * Lucifer_arma sighs in relief
05:07 <DrJoeTron> you only get one of them ;)
05:07 <C10ud> hmm
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> he got 3 of them
05:07 <C10ud> soic
05:07 <C10ud> :D
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> 1 ingame (not good), 1 on the forums (not good), and he just blew his third
05:07  * C10ud is not an aol lover
05:07  * C10ud is a geek
05:07 <C10ud> hmm
05:07 <C10ud> im good on rubber servers
05:07 <C10ud> high and low
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> all servers have rubber
05:08 <C10ud> not really good at fortress
05:08 <C10ud> i hate super high rubber
05:08 <DrJoeTron> even local has rubber
05:08 <C10ud> and i prefer below 5
05:08 <DrJoeTron> define low rubber
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> er, actually, local doesn't have rubber
05:08 <C10ud> *above
05:08 <C10ud> eyah it does
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> it's there, but the default is so low that it could be said to be nonexistant
05:08 <C10ud> local has 1.0 by default
05:08 <C10ud> yeah
05:08 <C10ud> u can modify the settings.cfg to fix that
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> right, but since your ping is 0 in local game, rubber doesn't kick in
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> not at that low setting anyway
05:08 <C10ud> yes it does
05:08 <C10ud> barely
05:09 <C10ud> if ure fast u can use rubber even at 1.0
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> to make it feel like a server with 5 rubber you have to set it to like 20 or something
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe 10
05:09 <C10ud> yeah
05:09 <C10ud> ik
05:09 <C10ud> i've been playing for 1.5 years on and off
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> that's because rubber only exists to correct for network problems
05:09 <C10ud> yup
05:09 <C10ud> now it has expanded use tho
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> then why have you subscribed to this idiot "rubber" genre of server?
05:09 <C10ud> so ppl use it as a crutch
05:09 <Lucifer_arma> rubber's not a genre anymore than "walls" or "acceleration" are a genre
05:10 <C10ud> b/c it allows u to do alot of things u cant do otherwise
05:10 <C10ud> w/e
05:10 <C10ud> lis
05:10 <C10ud> :D
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> so do walls
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> and acceleration, for that matter
05:10 <C10ud> so, why don't you seem to think i have made a good impression
05:10 <C10ud> ...
05:10 <C10ud> i don't get it
05:10 <C10ud> i am very well liked on the grid
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> [22:09] <C10ud> w/e
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> [22:10] <C10ud> lis
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> [22:10] <C10ud> :D
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> that stuff is really annoying
05:10 <C10ud> but the games creators seem to be hostile
05:10 <Lucifer_arma> youc an't put all that crap on one line?
05:10 <C10ud> o ok
05:11 <C10ud> hmm
05:11 <C10ud> ok
05:11 <C10ud> if you prefer that i talk normally, then i guess i can do that
05:11 <C10ud> i guess you don't like all the acronyms
05:11 <C10ud> since they are associated with AOL somehow
05:11 <Lucifer_arma> there is a strong preference around here for people to talk normally, and except for spidey (hi there!) , with reasonably good spelling
05:11 <C10ud> ok
05:11 <C10ud> i didn't know that sorry
05:11 <DrJoeTron> cept for me
05:11 <DrJoeTron> E for effort though here
05:11 <C10ud> hehehe
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> no exception for DrJoeTron (hi there!) , he's a college kid and ought to know better :)
05:12 <C10ud> i usually take any shortcut possible to type faster
05:12 <C10ud> i am 17
05:12 <C10ud> senior in high school
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's massacring the english language
05:12 <C10ud> yeah
05:12 <C10ud> i know
05:12 <C10ud> i don't particuarly care though
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> we're soon going to have a generation of adults who can't write for shit because all they've ever typed is "lol"
05:12 <C10ud> i practically live at my computer
05:12 <Lucifer_arma> you don't care you're reinforcing illiteracy?
05:12 <C10ud> yeah
05:13 <C10ud> no i am not
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> #dict illiteracy
05:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn and gcide responded: wn: illiteracy n 1: ignorance resulting from not reading 2: an inability to read [syn: {analphabetism}] [ant: {literacy}]; gcide: Illiteracy \Il*lit"er*a*cy\, n.; pl. {Illiteracies}. [From {Illiterate}.] 1. The state of being illiterate, or uneducated; lack of learning, or knowledge; ignorance; specifically, inability to read and write; as, the illiteracy shown by the last (1 more message)
05:13 <C10ud> i can speak and write perfectly normal when i want to
05:13 <C10ud> hmm
05:13 <C10ud> very interesting
05:13 <C10ud> so what do i have to redeem myself
05:13 <C10ud> since i seem to have made a bad impression
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> face it, you can only do well what you practice, and you're practicing bullshit illiterate writing
05:13 <C10ud> with you guys anyways
05:13 <C10ud> ok
05:13 <Lucifer_arma> so that's what you'll be able to do well
05:14 <C10ud> i can do anything well if i set my mind to it
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately for you, writing is a very important skill in the industrialized world
05:14 <C10ud> and so can anyone else
05:14 <C10ud> so i hear
05:14 <C10ud>  even though my world is digital
05:14 <C10ud> for the most part
05:14 <Lucifer_arma> #dict industrialized
05:14 <C10ud> i guess whe just have differing opinions on alot of things
05:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn and gcide responded: gcide: industrialized \industrialized\ adj. 1. made industrial; converted to industrialism. [WordNet 1.5]; wn: industrialized adj : made industrial; converted to industrialism; "industrialized areas" [syn: {industrialised}]
05:15 <C10ud> i'm sorry that you guys don't seem to like me
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> #dict digital
05:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, foldoc, gcide, and moby-thes responded: foldoc: Digital <company> Common abbreviation for {Digital Equipment Corporation}. (1995-12-18); foldoc: digital <data> A description of {data} which is stored or transmitted as a sequence of discrete symbols from a finite set, most commonly this means {binary} data represented using electronic or electromagnetic signals. The opposite is {analogue}. (5 more messages)
05:15 <C10ud> even though everyone else does
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> well, you've also caught me in a sour mood
05:15 <C10ud> yes
05:15 <C10ud> thats accurate
05:15 <C10ud> so i see
05:15 <C10ud> hmmm
05:15 <C10ud> oh well
05:15 <DrJoeTron> ALL OF THE COOL KIDS ARE DOING IT!
05:15 <C10ud> no, really i am a nice guy
05:15 <Lucifer_arma> not that I wouldn't have abused you anyway, you were just asking for it doing that IM window crap in an irc window
05:16 <C10ud> if you ask almost anyone who has played me they would tell you that i am a very nice player
05:16 <C10ud> ok
05:16 <C10ud> irc is very similar to im
05:16 <DrJoeTron> I stopped talking like that when I was 16
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #dict similar
05:16 <C10ud> it just uses slightly different server
05:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Similar \Sim"i*lar\, n. That which is similar to, or resembles, something else, as in quality, form, etc. [1913 Webster]; moby-thes: 59 Moby Thesaurus words for "similar": agnate, akin, alike, analogical, analogous, aped, approximate, approximating, approximative, be like, close, collatable, commensurable, commensurate, comparable, comparative, (6 more messages)
05:16 <Lucifer_arma> #dict identical
05:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Identic \I*den"tic\, Identical \I*den"tic*al\, a. In diplomacy (esp. in the form identic), precisely agreeing in sentiment or opinion and form or manner of expression; -- applied to concerted action or language which is used by two or more governments in treating with another government. [Webster 1913 Suppl.]; wn: identical adj 1: exactly alike; (7 more messages)
05:16 <C10ud> ok
05:16 <C10ud> you seem to really like english
05:16 <C10ud> which i dont'
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> I hate bad english, including the band
05:17 <C10ud> i guess thats why we don't get alot
05:17 <C10ud> *along
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> I hate bad language in general
05:17 <C10ud> then y do you swear?
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bad language
05:17 <C10ud> thats bad language in my opinion
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05:17 <C10ud> we seem to define things differently
05:17 <Lucifer_arma> did I use the swear words in some grammatically incorrect way?
05:17 <C10ud> o well
05:17 <C10ud> no
05:17 <C10ud> "bad" meaning morally wrong
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> then it wasn't bad language.  That I don't capitalize the first word of every sentence already annoys me.
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> how can a word by itself be bad?
05:18 <C10ud> because it is taking God's name in vain
05:18 <C10ud> im a christian
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> and how can you preach about morality when you use "lol" as a full stop?
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> fuck God
05:18 <C10ud> what is wrong with lol
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> God can suck my fat white dick.  :)
05:18 <DrJoeTron> The virgin mary was only a virgin if you don't count anal "D
05:18 <C10ud> sorry to hear that u think that
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> she had a tight ass, man
05:19 <C10ud> well, since we dont' seem to get along at all, im sorry i got hon here
05:19 <C10ud> i'll cya guys later
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05:20 <DrJoeTron> I was fine untill religion became involved for no fucking reason
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> wow, google was within 100 million hits of the Microsoft site that is IEs default
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05:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, he was emoing on us.  "Why do you hate me?  cry cry cry"
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> that guy on the forums just had to set me off, didn't he.  Heh
05:21 <DrJoeTron> I'm surpised you gufirsts didnt pounce on me when I first joined :p
05:21 <DrJoeTron> guys*
05:22 <DrJoeTron> wow my keyboard burped up, I need to change the batteries
05:22  * Lucifer_arma quietly notes DrJoeTron (hi there!) predates him around here
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> maybe not in this channel....
05:23 <DrJoeTron> well I'm glad you guys didn't is what I'm saying
05:23 <DrJoeTron> I just kinda walked in, grabbed a soda, and sat on the couch 
05:23  * GodTodd wishes people would pounce on him :/
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> I don't think we started pouncing on people until Canada came in and started really annoying us
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> even then, the only pouncers are me and you, I think
05:23  * Genki wishes people wouldn't pounce on her
05:24  * Lucifer_arma suggests Genki not litter her phrases with "lol", replace "you" with "u", "too" with "2", etc
05:24 <Lucifer_arma> we're not asking for perfect grammar, just not intentionally broken grammar
05:24 <Genki> hehe can't help it
05:25 <Genki> cant
05:25 <Genki> better?
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> better than what?
05:25 <Genki> nvm
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> you could just wait until Canada visits us again, then nothing you say could possibly be bad by comparison.
05:25 <Genki> who me?
05:26 <Genki> I'm still trying to figure out how I got here
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> ?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> it's pretty hard to accidentally wind up in an irc channel...
05:27 <Genki> yeah well I have no clue
05:27 <Genki> well now I do
05:27 <DrJoeTron> haha
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> the reason I say that is because you usually have to install something
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> ah, nvm, you're using joda's web interface
05:27 <Genki> nope I typed my name into IRC nick in the ddl forums and I came here
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05:27 <Lucifer_arma> ddl?
05:27 <Genki> Durka Durka Land
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> hmm, is that durka's forums?
05:28 <Genki> yep
05:28 <Genki> yep
05:28 <Genki> oops
05:28 <GodTodd_> fuckers
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> ahhhhhh, that explains those two smegheads that were just here :)
05:28 <Genki> haha
05:28 <Genki> custang and c10ud?
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> yeah
05:29  * GodTodd_ is going to start using lol as punctuation
05:29 <GodTodd_> lol
05:29 <Genki> lol
05:29 <Genki> any idea where they went?
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05:29  * Lucifer_arma flexes his muscles
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> I know where custang went
05:29 <custang> where
05:29  * GodTodd_ admonishes Lucifer_arma for being mean lol
05:29 <Genki> oh hey custang
05:29 <Genki> oh hey custang
05:29 <Genki> oh hey custang
05:30 <custang> WOW hey Genki
05:30 <Genki> said that too many times my bad
05:30 <Genki> so anywho...
05:30 <Genki> what's up guys?
05:30 <GodTodd_> nothing lol
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> I have decided it's ok for the column format class to know that much about the ui!
05:31 <Genki> ui?
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> #cyborg ui
05:32 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: U.I.: Upgraded Individual
05:32 <GodTodd_> user interface lol
05:32 <Genki> o
05:32 <Genki> lol
05:32  * custang flexes his muscles too
05:33  * Genki wonders what muscles custang is talking about
05:33  * Lucifer_arma throws his hair behind him
05:33 <Genki> :P
05:33 <Genki> long hair lucifer?
05:34  * custang has a cool afro
05:34 <Lucifer_arma> couldn't throw it behind me if it was short
05:34 <Genki> is it straight?
05:35  * GodTodd_ has short hair and throws it behind him
05:35 <GodTodd_> lol
05:35 <Lucifer_arma>  /ignore GodTodd_
05:35 <Genki> lol
05:35  * custang AGREES
05:35 <Lucifer_arma> why are you so concerned about my hair?
05:36  * GodTodd_ has gay hair
05:36 <Genki> *shrugs* I have my reasons
05:36 <custang> Genki is a hair cutter :)
05:36 <GodTodd_> not straight at all
05:36 <Genki> lol
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> ok, fine.  It's straight, and long, and when I'm in the shower, it gets caught in my ass crack
05:36 <Genki> haha
05:36 <Genki> what color is it?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> brown
05:36 <custang> :0 to much info
05:36 <Genki> is it soft?
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> note the ass crack comment
05:37 <custang> ok
05:37 <Genki> I'm ignoring it
05:37 <Genki> is it soft?
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> it's usually fairly soft, except in the winter when my whole body dries up
05:37 <Genki> ok, thx for all the info
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> now, the reasons?
05:37 <custang> haha when im in the shower it goes to my shouders
05:38 <GodTodd_> making a voodoo doll?
05:38  * custang needs to grow it bigger
05:38 <Genki> lol
05:38 <Genki> they are all girly reasons that are unimportant
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> voodoo doll would need an actual hair from my head
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> ah, I see.  a freeloader
05:38 <GodTodd_> * custang needs to grow it bigger <---- now *that's* too much info
05:38 <Genki> haha
05:38 <custang> sure is
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> he's talking about his afro
05:39 <custang> i know
05:39 <custang> haha
05:39 <GodTodd_> depends on the context you choose to take it in :)
05:39 <GodTodd_> *in which you choose to take it
05:39 <GodTodd_> something like that :)
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> *hole
05:39 <custang> well im not a dirty man
05:39 <Genki> boy more like it
05:39  * GodTodd_ is a very very dirty man
05:39 <custang> s:)
05:40 <custang> unibrow
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> unibrow is cool
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> my wife tries to talk me into plucking it out every now and then, and I tell her "No!  Unibrow is cool!"
05:40  * Genki can be dirty but chooses not to
05:40 <Genki> haha nice Luc
05:40 <custang> haha |:) or s:)     i like |:)
05:40 <Genki> lol
05:41 <Genki> having fun custang?
05:41 <custang> haha yes }:)
05:41  * Lucifer_arma quietly notes that in many fonts, | is two lines
05:41 <Lucifer_arma> one on top of the other
05:41 <Genki> lol
05:41 <custang> +:) hahaha
05:42 <custang> @:)
05:42 <custang> hehe
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> :B)
05:42 <Genki> wait... wife? Lucifer how old are you?
05:42 <Genki> or
05:42 <Genki> Lucifer how old r u?
05:42 <Lucifer_arma> thirtyish
05:42 <custang> sw8
05:42 <custang> i guess
05:43 <custang> ummmmmm
05:43 <custang> 30 something???
05:43 <custang> you geuss Genki 
05:43 <Genki> guess what?
05:43 <custang> age
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05:43 <GodTodd_> yes...thirtyish == 30something
05:43 <Genki> if he says thirtyish I'm not questioning it
05:43 <Lucifer_arma> could be 28, 28's close to thirty
05:43 <GodTodd_> true
05:44 -!- GodTodd_ is now known as GodTodd
05:44 <custang> hehe im about 14 ish....
05:44 <Lucifer_arma> we could tell
05:44 <custang> ok wat Genki 's age??
05:44 <Genki> Lucifer how old do you believe I am?
05:44 <custang> geuss
05:44  * GodTodd notes that Lucifer_arma is not, in fact, 28 tho
05:44 <Genki> custang shut up we're not playing 20 questions
05:44 <Genki> lol
05:44  * custang AGREES
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> near puberty, 14-16
05:45 <custang> yes 21 questions
05:45 <Genki> near puberty?
05:45 <Genki> I resent that
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> *resemble
05:45  * Lucifer_arma quietly notes that "near" doesn't specify a direction
05:45 <custang> teens have mad parties #:)
05:45 <Lucifer_arma> +think they
05:46 <Genki> lol
05:46 <Genki> well you're right Lucifer I am in my teens, but I party with the 18-25 year olds
05:46 <Genki> people from my work
05:46 <custang> haha thats true
05:46 <custang> he gonna pick up some chicks 
05:46 <Genki> he?
05:47 <custang> ?:) i have one one of these $:)
05:47 <DrJoeTron> keeps his assholish comments to himself :"D
05:47 <custang> haha hey DrJoeTron 
05:47 <Genki> haha
05:47 <Genki> no please share Dr
05:47 <GodTodd> joe, an asshole?
05:47 <GodTodd> bullshit :D
05:48 <DrJoeTron> lies and slander GodTodd!
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron is a very nice person
05:48 <GodTodd> i know, baby
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> he just has a unique way of expressing himself
05:48 <custang> Lucifer_arma sometimes >:)
05:48 <DrJoeTron> my computer is right next to the cold air intake of the house
05:49 <DrJoeTron> and theres no carpet here
05:49 <DrJoeTron> instead I get this nice carpet of dust
05:49 <Genki> that sucks
05:49 <DrJoeTron> in about a month
05:49 <DrJoeTron> its fucking gross
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05:49 <GodTodd> so fucking dust
05:49 <DrJoeTron> when the cpu temp raises it means I need to dust it
05:49 <GodTodd> duh
05:49 <GodTodd> :)
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> dust sticks to your tongue, making it very esy to clean
05:49 <DrJoeTron> thats what I'm doing
05:49 <DrJoeTron> I'm really allergic to dust ;/
05:50 <custang> haha have fun guys catch ya
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05:50 <DrJoeTron> after I clean I feel like shit for a week
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> really?  dust is like 80% dead skin
05:50 <DrJoeTron> I'm allergic to fucking everything
05:50 <GodTodd> my son is allergic to sweet potatoes
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> my daughter is allergic to work
05:50 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma its that 20% I'm allergic to
05:50 <DrJoeTron> like dust mite poop
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> everytime I tell her to do something, her foot hurts or her muscles cramp up, or whatever
05:51 <GodTodd> Lucifer_arma: that's what my oldest is allergic to :)
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> it's amazing
05:51 <Genki> How old is your daughter? around my age?
05:51 <Lucifer_arma> no
05:51 <Genki> man, I need more female friends lol
05:51 <custang> older   no.......    younger
05:52 <GodTodd> it's amazing how a kid can get so full as to not finish dinner and then 10 minutes later ask what's for dessert
05:52 <Genki> haha
05:52 <custang> haha true
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> my middle son had room for rice last night, but not room for enchiladas
05:52 <Lucifer_arma> it's amazing, he has a compartmented stomach!
05:52 <GodTodd> haha
05:52 <custang> haha
05:53 <DrJoeTron> hey
05:53 <DrJoeTron> its a crippling disease guys
05:53 <custang> ????
05:53 <DrJoeTron> I had it when for the longest time
05:53 <GodTodd> then there's motherfucking joe
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> hey, nothing wrong with fucking a mother.  I fucked one last night...
05:53 <Genki> this just took a turn for the worst
05:54 <custang> :O your wife better not hear that
05:54 <GodTodd> heh
05:54 <Genki> lol
05:54 <GodTodd> i've fucked two mothers :P
05:54 <custang> X . X
05:54 <Genki> My virgin eyes!
05:54  * Lucifer_arma wonders if his wife would really be offended by describing our "relations" as "fucking"
05:54 <Genki> ok not really but ahhh!
05:54 <custang> haha
05:54 <Genki> haha
05:54 <GodTodd> and....and...and....none of them were even mine
05:54 <Lucifer_arma> I've fucked your mother, Todd
05:55 <GodTodd> bullshit
05:55 <GodTodd> :)
05:55 <custang> o thats who it was
05:55 <Genki> lol
05:55  * Genki prefers to keep her private life... private
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:55 <GodTodd> don't wanna tell us how many mothers you've done?
05:55 <GodTodd> heh
05:55 <Lucifer_arma> some guy on the forums just asked "how many posts do I need before my signature shows up?"
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> in a PM to me!
05:56 <Genki> lol
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> why?!?!?  grrrr
05:56 <custang> hahahhahahaa
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> so I replied with "1000"
05:56 <GodTodd> oh, am i not supposed to ask that? sorry
05:56 <Genki> you're so mean lol
05:56 <GodTodd> :D
05:56 <Genki> what todd?
05:56 <Genki> talking to me?
05:56 <custang> who was it ??
05:56 <Genki> I've done zero mothers, but I can't say that about fathers
05:56 <Lucifer_arma> now now, I only reveal who sends me stupid PMs when Joe tells me, and it's the same person
05:57 <Genki> haha
05:57 <custang> o no not me lol
05:57 <custang> i mean lawl
05:57 <custang> &:)
05:57 <GodTodd> aafkdlsa;fjkdla;fjkdla;fjkdla;fkdla;fkjdla;
05:58 <custang> |;|
05:58 <Genki> more girls need to play tron
05:58 <Genki> wow I silenced the room
05:58 <Genki> awesome
05:59 <Genki> So... jailbait
05:59 <DrJoeTron> I'm cleaning
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> do you have any idea how men interpret girls saying 'more girls need to do <something I do'?
05:59 <Genki> lol
05:59 <Genki> nope
06:00 <Genki> how do they Lucifer?
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> before answering that, you should consider how much time we men have wasted consoling our girlfriends and wives and shit for being backstabbed by "some girl"
06:00 <Genki> I see
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> and how much time we've wasted lecturing our girlfriends and wives when they've gone and backstabbed some female friend of theirs
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> you want more girls here?  really?  why?  so you can fuck them over?
06:00 <Genki> uhh no so we won't be the minority
06:01 <Genki> but good answer lucifer
06:01 <DrJoeTron> I miss fonkay :/
06:01 <custang> go on K:)
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> she comes around a bit.  :)
06:01 <Genki> fonkay?
06:01 <DrJoeTron> she needs to come on here more
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> there are quite a few girls that play and don't reveal their genders
06:01 <custang> haha DrJoeTron 
06:01 <DrJoeTron> even though I have her on Google talk
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> because every time they do, they get a bunch of guys saying stuff that they really shouldn't be saying
06:02 <DrJoeTron> pretty much
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> in any case, girls aren't quite the minority you might think.  :)
06:02 <DrJoeTron> 14 year olds like to hit on people on armagetron
06:02 <DrJoeTron> tthey think its "suave"
06:02 <custang> i dont
06:02 <Lucifer_arma> they're still outnumbered by boys, but not as badly as it sounds
06:02  * GodTodd is *not* 14 :P
06:02  * Lucifer_arma hits on GodTodd (hi there!) 
06:02 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
06:03 <DrJoeTron> hey babeh, wanna killall humans?
06:03  * GodTodd reciprocates.
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> killall -9 humans
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> er, wrong window
06:03 <custang> maybe other 14 year old you look ugly not me %:)
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> dave@localhost:/home/share/Projects/dsbp$ killall -9 humans
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> humans: no process killed
06:03 <Lucifer_arma> custang: could you rewrite that so it makes sense?
06:03 <GodTodd> that needs a comma
06:03 <GodTodd> hrmm
06:03 <custang> that look ugly i mean sorry
06:04 <custang> ok
06:04 <GodTodd> <Lucifer_arma> humans: no process, killed
06:04 <GodTodd> better :)
06:04 <custang> maybe other 14 year olds that look ugly ( not me )
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06:04 <GodTodd> bye spidey
06:04 <Lucifer_arma> man, if I could pick any age to be for the rest of my life, it would not be 14
06:05 <GodTodd> heh
06:05 <GodTodd> definitely not
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> were any of you guys that obsessed with looks when you were 14?
06:05 <custang> same here
06:05 <Lucifer_arma> right here, right now, all you can see is text.  Why the fuck should what anybody looks like matter?  All you see is text!
06:05 <GodTodd> girls looks? hell yeah :)
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> in the game, it's the same thing, only you also have light cycles and shit.  But everybody looks the same, except that some look smarter than others.
06:06 <Lucifer_arma> so why should looks have anything to do with what someone says, here or ingame?
06:06 <custang> hmmmmmmm
06:06 <custang> they cant get anything out of the game
06:07 <Genki> I prefer personality and the way someone speaks
06:07 <Genki> that you can get out of the game
06:07 <Genki> through chat
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> not exactly, it's very easy to fake it
06:07 <Lucifer_arma> hence all the online scams and shit
06:07 <Genki> true
06:07 <Genki> I once faked it, to see what happened
06:07 <Genki> but mostly I prefer someone's voice
06:08  * GodTodd notes that his first go-around in college he pissed some dude off cuz he pretended to be a chick that year in a MUSH.
06:08 <Genki> haha
06:08 <Genki> here though, why would you hide who you truely are? what is the purpose?
06:08 <GodTodd> shits and grins for some, i'd imagine
06:08 <Genki> for some
06:08 <Lucifer_arma> I can think of lots of really bad reasons
06:09 <Genki> care to share a few?
06:09 <custang> tell some
06:09 <Genki> other then to be a pedophile
06:09 <GodTodd> and the bad things that Lucifer_arma is inferring
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> they're not obvious?  :)
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> let's see, pretend to be a really nice person, make good friendships, then suddenly I need some financial assistance
06:09 <GodTodd> pedophile, murderer, torturer, kidnapper
06:09 <GodTodd> that too
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> so you give me your bank account info and I drain it
06:10 <custang> nice
06:10 <custang> well its 872387238478347832
06:10 <Genki> lol
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> there was one lady who went to some forums to get a "dog", and she wound up meeting up with the woman, killing her, cutting her baby out, and passing it off as her own
06:10 <custang> :)
06:10 <Genki> wow
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> this was in Kansas, iirc
06:10 <custang> wow
06:10 <GodTodd> MO, wasn't it?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> another woman was raped and murdered by some guy she met online, her husband found her
06:10 <Genki> So I can't trust any of you right now?
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> might have been MO
06:10 <Genki> O.O
06:10 <Lucifer_arma> no, you can't trust anyone here that you can't authenticate
06:11 <Genki> and how would you authenticate?
06:11  * GodTodd already authenticated
06:11 <Genki> or is it not possible?
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> depends on ther person.  I know GodTodd (hi there!) from high school
06:11 <GodTodd> nickserv told me so :)
06:11 <Genki> I see
06:11 <Genki> well I hate to say it but I'm a trusting person
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> true, I don't know with absolute certainty that the person calling himself GodTodd here is the same person I knew in high school, but uncertainty is a part of life, deal with it :)
06:12 <GodTodd> authenticating a person is sometimes subtle work....a lot of times it's a gut sort of thing
06:12 <custang> hey Lucifer_arma, you remeber that person that put a post saying i need a boyfriend and stuff like that and had 20,000 links hehe
06:12 <Genki> Well with me everyone has a clean slate, meaning I believe they are who they say they are, unless they prove me otherwise
06:12  * GodTodd doesn't know anyone with a life sad enough to impersonate him tho :/
06:12 <GodTodd> heh
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> translation: "Hey Lucifer_arma, you remember that spam!"
06:12 <Genki> lol
06:13 <custang> lol
06:13 <Genki> so Todd is thirtyish too>
06:13 <Genki> ?
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> well, that's probably a reverse way of looking at it.  I give folks here the benefit of the doubt, but I also don't assume they're automatically interested in my best interests
06:13 <GodTodd> yeah, somewhere in there :)
06:13 <Genki> good point Lucifer
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> he's younger than me, if that helps :)
06:13 <Genki> Not at all, but I'll take what I can get
06:13 <GodTodd> by....six months or so
06:13 <custang> so your the oldest here???
06:14 <Genki> It appears so
06:14 <Genki> then again who knows if they are telling the truth ;)
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> depends.  [dlh] (hi there!) might be older than me
06:14 <Genki> you're the oldest one TALKING
06:14 <custang> hey isnt Legit 37????
06:14 <Genki> no he's 12
06:14 <Genki> he just likes the year 1969
06:15 <Genki> for obvious reasons
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> I thought he was 18 going on 12
06:15 <custang> s:)
06:15 <Genki> something like that
06:15 <custang> no no you got it wrong 18 going to 11
06:15 <[dlh]> I'm much younger than you, Lucifer_arma.
06:15 <Genki> whoa
06:15 <Genki> !
06:16 <Genki> hi there!
06:16 <[dlh]> hiya
06:16 <custang> hey [dlh] 
06:16 <Genki> glad you could join us
06:16 <custang> well i might play a little tron guys
06:16 <Genki> ok
06:16 <Genki> later custang
06:16  * [dlh] didn't want to get involved in the grammar bitching thing.
06:16 <Genki> haha
06:16 <Genki> that was some time ago
06:17 <custang> ok bye all have fun
06:17 <Genki> bye bye
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06:17 <Genki> So anyone into football?
06:17 <Genki> ...
06:17 <[dlh]> I guess not.
06:18 <GodTodd> football, or soccer?
06:18 <GodTodd> :)
06:18 <Genki> oh... oh yeah
06:18  * Lucifer_arma smiles
06:18 <Genki> umm soccer lol
06:18 <Genki> or football
06:18 <Genki> either one
06:18 <Genki> lol
06:18  * Lucifer_arma was smiling at [dlh] (hi there!) 
06:18 <Genki> anyone into sports?
06:18 <Genki> :-D
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> not much for sports, myself.  I like the XPrizeCup though
06:19 <Genki> XPrizeCup?
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> yep, that
06:19 <GodTodd> xprizecup needs better tv coverage
06:19 <Genki> I have no idea what that is
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> I thought the web coverage was fine.  :)
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> or do you mean just generally better coverage so people know wtf we're talking about?
06:19 <GodTodd> well...it was alright
06:19 <DrJoeTron> I watched that with you guys :)
06:20 <GodTodd> that too
06:20 <GodTodd> specially when it involves my robots :)
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> well, the tv coverage won't have that hot anchor chick that the web coverage had
06:20 <DrJoeTron> brb
06:20 <GodTodd> lies
06:21 <Lucifer_arma> oh come on, man.  she was awesome!  Especially the way she says "Las Cruces New Mexico"
06:21 <GodTodd> nah...you're right...joe is a liar
06:21 <GodTodd> :)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> they'll do better next year, I hope.  It was the first year they actually had an event
06:23 <Lucifer_arma> their web page hasn't been updated to reflect the next one, I hope that doesn't mean there won't be a next one
06:23 <GodTodd> nah...it should go on
06:23 <GodTodd> geeks are persistent
06:26 <Genki> ... silent already?
06:27 <GodTodd> constantly
06:28 <Genki> I'm guessing you guys are into... computer programing/science
06:28 <GodTodd> among other things, yes :)
06:28 <Genki> other things? do elaborate
06:29 <GodTodd> hrmm...well...whatever strikes, really
06:30 <Genki> tron?
06:30 <GodTodd> i'm hit or miss on tron personally
06:30  * Genki somewhat confused
06:30  * Genki is somewhat confused*
06:32  * GodTodd has spent around 30 years that way.
06:32 <Genki> haha
06:32 <Genki> well what do you mean "hit or miss"
06:33 <GodTodd> i mean there are times when it is pretty cool and other times that it seems kinda lame
06:33 <GodTodd> like most things, i suppose :)
06:33 <Genki> I agree ^_^
06:33 <Genki> so how did you discover tron?
06:33 <Lucifer_arma> well, I was out smoking a cigarette, now I'm going to work on my checkbook program some more
06:34 <Genki> ok
06:34 <Genki> hey Lucifer have I played with you before?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> I discovered armagetron when I first installed Linux
06:34 <GodTodd> tron or armagetronad?
06:34 <Lucifer_arma> your name is not familiar to me
06:34 <Genki> armagetron
06:34  * GodTodd points at Lucifer_arma
06:34  * Lucifer_arma smiles
06:34 <Genki> lol
06:34 <GodTodd> he told me about it
06:35 <Genki> well at least he's done one thing right
06:35 <GodTodd> as for TRON....i am actually old enough to remember it was a movie
06:35 <GodTodd> heh
06:35 <Genki> hehe I know it's a movie
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> I saw it in the theater
06:35 <GodTodd> me too
06:35 <Genki> oh well I'm not that old
06:35 <Lucifer_arma> I had the soundtrack on vinyl
06:35 <Genki> nice
06:36  * GodTodd remembers copying Lucifer_arma's vinyl stuff
06:36 <Genki> haha
06:36 <GodTodd> er...getting it copied*
06:37 <Genki> man no fun you guys have known each other for years
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06:37 <Lucifer_arma> how is that no fun?
06:37 <GodTodd> damn straight it's no fun
06:37 <GodTodd> heh
06:37 <Genki> haha
06:38 <Genki> inside jokes and such
06:38 <Lucifer_arma> is it bothering you that we've known each for more years than you've even been alive?
06:38 <GodTodd> haha
06:38 <Genki> how long have you known each other?
06:38 <Genki> more then 20 years?
06:38  * Genki is just curious
06:38 <GodTodd> close to 20
06:38 <Genki> wow
06:39 <GodTodd> 18, 19....something
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> we met at the beginning of junior high school
06:39 <Genki> I don't think I've known anyone outside my family for more then 6 years
06:39 <Lucifer_arma> so 20 is probably a pretty good working number
06:39 <Genki> wow
06:39 <Genki> do you guys still live near each other?
06:40 <Genki> err ifthat isn't too personal
06:40 <GodTodd> i know it was when Livin' on a Prayer was big
06:40 <Genki> if that*
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> 3-4 hours
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> he's in DFW area and I'm in Austin
06:40 <Genki> DFW?
06:40 <Genki> wait you're in Texas?
06:40 <GodTodd> dallas/fort worth
06:40 <Lucifer_arma> is there any other place to be?
06:41 <Genki> I was born in Texas ^_^
06:41 <Lucifer_arma> me too
06:41  * GodTodd is actually in NM right now...:/
06:41 <Genki> but parents were military so I moved around a lot
06:41 <Genki> I just went to Marfa recently
06:41 <Genki> err something like that
06:42 <Genki> born in Abilene though
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06:45 <Genki> Guys wanna play girly question time?
06:45 <Arma453> lol
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> 4 inches
06:45 <Lucifer_arma> er
06:45 <Genki> what? lol
06:45 <Arma453> why doesnt /list work
06:46 <Genki> dunno
06:46 <Genki> hi Arma453
06:46 <Arma453> hey Genki 
06:46 <Genki> Lucifer what's 4 inches?
06:46 <Genki> or do I not want to know?
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06:47 <Lucifer_arma> I typoed, actually
06:47 <Lucifer_arma> I meant to say, "4 inches, erect"
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06:49 <Genki> o... you made Todd leave with that one lol
06:49 <Lucifer_arma> he was impressed
06:49 <Genki> haha
06:49 <DrJoeTron> ok
06:50 <Genki> I was just going to ask when you lost your virginity, that's the uhh "dirtiest" question I ask
06:50 <Genki> hey Dr, what's up?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> don't recall ever having that trait
06:50 <DrJoeTron> haha
06:50 <DrJoeTron> so did we find out that Genki is the local bike while I was gone?
06:50 <Lucifer_arma> *dike?
06:51 <DrJoeTron> bike
06:51 <DrJoeTron> everyone wants a ride
06:51  * DrJoeTron bah dup tss!
06:51 <Lucifer_arma> moped, probably
06:51 <Genki> lol
06:51 <DrJoeTron> hahaha, I'm charming
06:51 <Genki> I prefer to keep my conquests legal
06:51 <DrJoeTron> haha
06:51 <Genki> :-D
06:52 <Genki> ok that was a lie but what can I really say to that?
06:52 <Genki> where'd you go anyways Dr?
06:52 <DrJoeTron> cleaning
06:52 <DrJoeTron> I'm taking a break for a sec
06:52 <Genki> for just a second?
06:53 <DrJoeTron> I also made a sweet mspaint drawing
06:53 <Genki> do share
06:53 <DrJoeTron> http://76.215.5.168/asddas.gif
06:53 <DrJoeTron> its a duck!
06:53 <Genki> ducky!
06:53 <Genki> he has no friends
06:53 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, it is a duck
06:54 <Genki> a duck indeed it is
06:54 <DrJoeTron> I'm good at mspaint :)
06:54 <Genki> I don't have mspaint :(
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> me neither :)
06:54 <Genki> well if I do I don't know lol
06:54 <Lucifer_arma> lol is not a full stop
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> #rules
06:55 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
06:55 <Genki> haha
06:55 <Genki> g8
06:55 <Genki> gr8
06:55 <Genki> something like that lol
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06:56 <Genki> I'm sorry is it a crime that I type everything out?
06:56 <Arma569> Genki still on
06:56 <DrJoeTron> according to the rest of the world
06:56 <Genki> what arma?
06:56 <DrJoeTron> well
06:56 <Genki> well...
06:56 <DrJoeTron> it depends on where you play
06:56 <Genki> o
06:56 <Genki> I can't help it, it's a habit
06:57 <Arma569> what is
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> she's emoing on us, joe
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> what should we do about that?
06:57 <Genki> lol
06:57 <Genki> let her do it?
06:57 <Genki> :-D
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> this is *not* emotron
06:57 <DrJoeTron> emogetron
06:57 <Arma569> isnt it o damn
06:58 <DrJoeTron> thats right custang
06:58 <Arma569> custang??
06:58 <Arma569> hmmmmm
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06:58 <Genki> lol
06:59 -!- custang [n=caadb73a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
06:59 <custang> hey 
06:59 <Genki> yellow
06:59 <custang> Genki still on
06:59 <Genki> yep
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> is custang a typo for cumstain?
06:59 <Genki> hey it dries clear
06:59 <custang> i made it
06:59 <Lucifer_arma> no it doesn't
06:59 <custang> you wish tho
07:00 <custang> maybe your Genki 
07:00 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt dry clear
07:00 <Genki> lol
07:00 <DrJoeTron> I think we'd know what it does
07:00 <Genki> I beat you do and I'm not challenging that
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> when it soaks in, it'll turn the material yellow
07:00  * custang something smells bad here
07:00  * DrJoeTron *
07:00 <Genki> guess I've never seen it fully dry
07:00 <Lucifer_arma> if it just dries on your skin, it turns into a white flaky mess
07:01 <DrJoeTron> I sneeze all over my keyboard
07:01 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt look like when it dries
07:01 <DrJoeTron> at all
07:01 <DrJoeTron> :/
07:01 <custang> haha
07:01  * custang 
07:02 -!- Genki is now known as cumstain
07:02 <cumstain> interesting
07:02 <custang> ?????
07:02 -!- cumstain is now known as Genki
07:02 <custang> haha
07:02 <DrJoeTron> its a perfect match
07:02 <Genki> lol
07:02 -!- DrJoeTron is now known as bukkake_bucket
07:02 <Genki> ewww
07:02  * Lucifer_arma comes on bukkake_bucket (hi there!) 's face
07:02 <Genki> nice
07:03 -!- bukkake_bucket is now known as DrJoeTron
07:03 <Genki> this would be less gross if I didn't know what bukkake meant
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07:03 <Lucifer_arma> it would also be less gross if you didn't care
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> er
07:03 <Lucifer_arma> nvm
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07:04 <Genki> whoops, accidently exited
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> it would also be less gross if you didn't care what bukkake meant
07:04 <Genki> that is true
07:04 <Lucifer_arma> shit only smells bad if you think shit is repulsive
07:05 -!- GodTodd [n=GodTodd@24-177-212-3.dhcp.almg.nm.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
07:05 <Lucifer_arma> don't think shit is repulsive, it stops smelling bad
07:05 <Genki> Lucifer you speak wise words... well maybe not wise but interesting
07:05 <DrJoeTron> I cant wait untill this shows up  in http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
07:05 <DrJoeTron> Genki do you have stairs in your house?
07:06  * GodTodd just realized he hasn't had the joy of fucking with luke in a while :/
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> haha
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> "and how the hell do you play snare if you can't count to 8?"
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> luke hasn't been around or something?
07:06 <Genki> easily listen
07:06 <Genki> some people play by ear
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> you play drums?
07:07 <Genki> alittle, just learning
07:07 <custang> wll im gonna go again bye bye
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> here's a tip.  If you want to keep good time, you have to count.  :)
07:07 <Genki> haha
07:08 <Genki> well luckily I can count to at least 8
07:08 <custang> 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10
07:08 <DrJoeTron> oh I remember that conversation we had
07:08 <Genki> ?
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> It seems that LuciEatsPeople's shift-key is hanging: 6.3% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE.
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> For example, like this:
07:08 <Lucifer_arma>      <LuciEatsPeople> I WANT TO WIN WITH CAPITAL LETTERS
07:08 <DrJoeTron> about me being shafted over that wench 
07:08 <custang> .13.11.12.15.17.14.20 yay haha
07:08 <custang> Genki you missed the 4
07:08 <DrJoeTron> I think I'm going to sign up for steel band again next semester
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> Lucifer_arma spoke a total of 649095 words!   <--- holy fuck
07:09 <custang> how you find that out??
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> look at the subject of the channel
07:09 <DrJoeTron> custang you arent even listed
07:10 <custang> haha
07:10 <DrJoeTron> wait yes you are
07:10 <DrJoeTron> for kicking 1 person
07:10 <Genki> Lucifer_arma always lets us know what he/she's doing: 2551 actions!
07:10 <custang> lol
07:10 <custang> that was luke - jr remember Lucifer_arma 
07:11 <GodTodd> guru3's faithful follower, custang, kicked about 1 people.
07:11 <custang> ?????right?????
07:11 <Genki> I'm not on the list :(
07:11 <custang> hehe
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> ?  I don't see him being listed
07:11 <Genki> then again this is my firts day on this lol
07:11 <custang> how did i get to be a mod tho??
07:11 <DrJoeTron> I was suprised I made the list
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> of course you're not on the list, it's only generated once a day
07:11 <Genki> first*
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> luke fucked up and opped you, custang
07:12 <DrJoeTron> good times :D
07:12 <custang> yay lol
07:12 <custang> it was fun tho
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> that's why it was funny for you to kick him, when I could have opped myself and kicked him
07:12 <custang> how you open yourself or i cant
07:13 <GodTodd> ghableska was tight-lipped, too, averaging 14.2 characters.
07:13 -!- Genki [n=44e46ffa@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC (EOF)"]
07:13 <GodTodd> heh...all he does is #weather
07:13 <GodTodd> :)
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> op you mean?  you can't, you have to be on the access list with ChanServ
07:13 <custang> ok
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> no, ghableska also says ":)" a lot
07:14 <GodTodd> oh, yeah :)
07:14 <custang> s:)
07:14 <GodTodd> #last --from ghableska --nolimit
07:14 <armabot> GodTodd: [03:25:16] <ghableska> LOL, [22:29:13] <ghableska> #serverdetails styball, [22:28:59] <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf, [19:17:27] <ghableska> #insult GodTodd, [19:17:19] <ghableska> heh, [19:16:18] * ghableska gets in the car, [19:15:22] <ghableska> *:P, [19:15:19] <ghableska> DrJoeTron: do you also have trouble connecting to some of the cs:s server? LO, [19:12:48] <ghableska> ok, [19:12:34] <ghableska> (22 more messages)
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> #more GodTodd
07:14 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: ...?, [19:12:14] <ghableska> what's it for?, [19:11:42] <ghableska> yes!, [19:04:20] <ghableska> hi Vanhayes, [18:47:58] <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf, [18:47:49] <ghableska> #serverdetails, [18:47:24] <ghableska> #armaservers, [17:51:26] <ghableska> #weather 50265, [17:51:22] * ghableska checks the weather once again, [17:45:54] <ghableska> ..., [17:39:46] <ghableska> :), [17:39:40] <ghableska> #later (21 more messages)
07:15 <GodTodd> ok...so today he was a little more active
07:15 <GodTodd> heh
07:15 <custang> haha spidey told me to ban luke
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07:15 <custang> swb
07:15 <custang> wb*
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> what's the s stand for?
07:15 <Genki> lol
07:15 <Genki> thinks he's on arma
07:15 <custang> haha i press it sometimes
07:15 <Genki> sad when you start pressing s before saying anything
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bad
07:16 <Lucifer_arma> its really bad when you say "s" before anything
07:16 <custang> s:) haha 
07:16 <Genki> lol
07:16 <custang> s lol
07:16 <custang> s that is bad
07:16 <GodTodd> tonly dorks take ingame talking commands into IRC chatting
07:16 <custang> haha
07:16 <GodTodd> ;)
07:17  * Genki rolls her eyes
07:17 <custang> haha /players
07:17 <custang> Genki girl????
07:17  * GodTodd rolls genki's eyes back to her.
07:17 <Genki> lol
07:17 <DrJoeTron> dont be chattin' in here like its arma, turkey!
07:17  * GodTodd watches custang catch up.
07:18 <custang> ????
07:18 <GodTodd> tstfu DrJoeTron
07:18 <Genki> lol why not? /admin say fear me!
07:18 <custang> hahaha
07:18 <DrJoeTron> custang!
07:18 <DrJoeTron> he learns!
07:18 <GodTodd> #luke
07:18 <armabot> stfu, baka noob?? RTFM??
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> he's an aussie, relax
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> he's just a little slow, that's all
07:18 <DrJoeTron>  /login joeroxlobster
07:18 <DrJoeTron> oops
07:18 <DrJoeTron> sry
07:18 <DrJoeTron> ignor dat
07:18 <DrJoeTron> rofl
07:18 <Genki> lol
07:19  * GodTodd haxorz joe's box.
07:19 <Lucifer_arma>  /login josuxlbsterkok
07:19 <DrJoeTron> d00d
07:19 <DrJoeTron> omg stop
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> 00ps
07:19 <DrJoeTron> I hate chu faggets
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> fuk u
07:19 <DrJoeTron> dood jus wait till mom leav da room
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> bit me koks|_|cker
07:20 <DrJoeTron> dats when I can say racsist stuff
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> my mom lready lef'
07:20 <DrJoeTron> omg
07:20 <Genki> k I g2g bedtime
07:20 <DrJoeTron> dnt sware kthx
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> j00 fuxored
07:20 <Genki> night guys
07:20 <DrJoeTron> see ya
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> 'night Genki (hi there!) 
07:20 <custang> im not aussie im mostly italian and Lucifer_arma what you got asgenist aussies??
07:20 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:20 <custang> bye Genki 
07:20 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> asgenist?
07:20  * Genki waves goodbye
07:20 <GodTodd> night genki
07:20 <custang> haha
07:21 <Genki> oh hey welcome back Todd
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> mostly italian, eh?
07:21 <Genki> k bye
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> how much italian you got in you, custang?
07:21 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:21 -!- Genki [n=44e46ffa@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC (EOF)"]
07:21 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #6: "luci what exactly did you use robots for pleasure -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:52 AM, March 27, 2006)
07:21 <custang> 75%
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> you want some more?
07:21 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
07:21 <custang> haha i cant speak much tho
07:21 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:21 <GodTodd> care to make it 100?
07:21 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #6: "luci what exactly did you use robots for pleasure -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:52 AM, March 27, 2006)
07:21 <custang> ahhhhhh
07:21 <custang> #q
07:21 <armabot> custang: Quote #26: "<Lucifer_arma> I want fundamentalism just so I can wipe my ass with luke-jr_'s face" (added by spidey at 05:44 AM, October 25, 2006)
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> that sucks, armabot gave you the same random quote twice
07:22 <GodTodd> that's not very random
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> #q
07:22 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #2: "God gave me fingers and a clitoris, I mean, it's pretty obvious. --Lola Garcia" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:07 AM, March 24, 2006)
07:22 <custang> #q
07:22 <armabot> custang: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
07:22 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:22 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
07:22 <DrJoeTron> can we delete some of these
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> no!
07:22 <DrJoeTron> that shouldnt be allowed in there
07:22 <custang> #q
07:22 <armabot> custang: Quote #37: "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:40 PM, December 09, 2006)
07:22 <custang> #q
07:22 <armabot> custang: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
07:22 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:23 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #14: "On a full moon, Christopher Walken transform in a wereworm. Not as dangerous as a werewolf, but twice as cunning. - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 07:58 PM, April 25, 2006)
07:23 <custang> #q
07:23 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
07:23 <armabot> custang: Quote #2: "God gave me fingers and a clitoris, I mean, it's pretty obvious. --Lola Garcia" (added by Lucifer_arma at 07:07 AM, March 24, 2006)
07:23 <custang> haha
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #q
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
07:23 <custang> #q
07:23 <armabot> custang: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
07:23 <custang> ???
07:23 <DrJoeTron> I miss n54
07:23 <custang> #q
07:23 <armabot> custang: Quote #13: "<hang3r> How many microbuscity's does it take to change a light bulb?" (added by hang3r at 07:41 AM, March 31, 2006)
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #seen n54
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: n54 was last seen in #armagetron 27 weeks, 6 days, 3 hours, 33 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <n54> hi mom :)
07:23 <custang> #q
07:23 <armabot> custang: Quote #20: "ok luci, you'd know better on this one -- luke-jr" (added by wrtlprnft at 02:26 PM, August 24, 2006)
07:23 <Lucifer_arma> #seen dumbass
07:23 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I have not seen dumbass.
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> #seen your ass
07:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> #seen your_ass
07:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: I have not seen your_ass.
07:24 <custang> #haha
07:24 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as Your_ass
07:24 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:24 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #3: "um, try spelling it wirght :) -- Lucifer" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:22 AM, March 27, 2006)
07:24 <custang> bye all
07:24 -!- custang [n=caadb73a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC"]
07:24 <Your_ass> FUCK FUCK SHIT SHIT OH WHAT A RELIEF IT IS
07:24 -!- Your_ass is now known as Lucifer_arma
07:24 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:24 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #34: "im FBI, got ya...hands up,or i will shot at u with dos attacks-Ady" (added by spidey at 01:17 AM, November 11, 2006)
07:24 <Lucifer_arma> #seen your_ass
07:24 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: your_ass was last seen in #armagetron 11 seconds ago: <Your_ass> FUCK FUCK SHIT SHIT OH WHAT A RELIEF IT IS
07:25 <DrJoeTron> hahaha'
07:25 <GodTodd> bahahahaha
07:25 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:25 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #15: "You see a body ripped appart, blood splatter on the ceiling, gore all over. Tell me, would you really suspect that worm making a run for it toward the door at 5 cm per minute? No you would not! - philippeqc" (added by n54 at 08:09 PM, April 25, 2006)
07:25 <GodTodd> #q
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #38: "<GodTodd> hayes jerks off turkeys?" (added by spidey at 01:44 AM, December 13, 2006)
07:25 <GodTodd> #q
07:25 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #36: "<Durka> HEY im a n00b" (added by spidey at 08:45 PM, December 07, 2006)
07:26 <GodTodd> #q
07:26 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #39: "spidey sucks cow dick?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:47 AM, December 13, 2006)
07:26 <GodTodd> how come i get all the one's involving dick in some way? :/
07:26 <GodTodd> #q
07:26 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #24: "i'll be in grade 12 by fevurary -- spidey" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:18 AM, October 21, 2006)
07:26 <DrJoeTron> that needs to  be added
07:27 <GodTodd> #q
07:27 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #19: "If we were wolves and we snuck into China, they'd try to eat us, but we'd eat them. --Lucifer's Son" (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:36 PM, July 05, 2006)
07:27 <DrJoeTron> <GodTodd> how come i get all the one's involving dick in some way? :/
07:27 <GodTodd> fuk u joe
07:27 <DrJoeTron> :D
07:27 <GodTodd> #q
07:27 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
07:27 <DrJoeTron> #q
07:27 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
07:27 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
07:27 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
07:27 <GodTodd> bah j00 n00b
07:28 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
07:28 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Tularosa, New Mexico is 35.4°F (11:28 PM MST on December 23, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa. 
07:29 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
07:29 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 45.7°F (12:29 AM CST on December 24, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa. 
07:29 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034246112.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["" 'Tis the season to be jolly, falalalalalalalala.""]
07:29 <GodTodd> canadians have christmas?
07:30 <DrJoeTron> Canadians celebrate the wookie's Life Day
07:30 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:30 <GodTodd> ok
07:31  * GodTodd wonders if they wear poppies for that too
07:31 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@70.88.244.226] has quit ["⌘Q"]
07:32  * GodTodd slow dances with joe.
07:32 <GodTodd> HELLO????
07:32 <GodTodd> CAN ANYONE HLEP ME SETUP MY SERVERE????
07:32 <DrJoeTron> DOOD GTFO
07:32 <DrJoeTron> NUB
07:33 <GodTodd> NO?/? OK FINE BYE
07:33 <GodTodd> U FUKKERS
07:33 <DrJoeTron> ur ghey lol
07:33 <GodTodd> :D
07:34 <GodTodd> ur ghey nub
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> #cnn 78717
07:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Round Rock, TX is 45.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Wind: NNW at 5 mph (8 km/h).
07:34 <Lucifer_arma> #weather 78717
07:34 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Meadows of Brushy Creek, Austin, Texas is 45.0°F (12:29 AM CST on December 24, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa. 
07:35 <GodTodd> wow...i don't think i've seen those two agree on a temp before
07:35 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
07:35 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Tularosa, New Mexico is 34.9°F (11:33 PM MST on December 23, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa. 
07:35 <GodTodd> #cnn 88310
07:35 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, NM is 44.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Wind: N at 3 mph (5 km/h).
07:35 <Lucifer_arma> "Not all of Generation M can synthesize the loads of information they're accessing, educators say. 'They're geeky, but they don't know what to do with their geekdom,' 
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> only 49 percent of the test-takers correctly evaluated a set of Web sites for objectivity, authority and timeliness. Only 35 percent could correctly narrow an overly broad Internet search."
07:36 <Lucifer_arma> I don't read articles anymore.  Ever since I started using an rss reader, I've only read headlines and summaries
07:36 <GodTodd> so...a bunch of ignorant geeks?
07:39 <GodTodd> or not...
07:39  * GodTodd sits in the corner and recharges.
07:41 <Lucifer_arma> sorry, coding again
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07:42 <Lucifer_arma> finished refactoring what I was working on, now time to tighten up the split editor
07:42 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:42 <Lucifer_arma> after that, I'm pretty close to having something I can release.  Just need to remove the auto* stuff
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> I added a python script to build all the .ui files, I just need to make sure to call it from the setup.py file I still have to write
07:44 <GodTodd> and of course it'll run on linux...cuz it's qt4 based, right? ;)
07:45 <Lucifer_arma> more importantly, my development environment is linux :)
07:46 <GodTodd> ok, luke :P
07:46 <Lucifer_arma> ?
07:46  * Lucifer_arma doesn't connect how "of course it'll run on linux because it's developed in linux" with being luke
07:47 <GodTodd> well...would make more sense i suppose if my first question had an "only" before "linux"
07:47 <GodTodd> heh
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> ahhh, right
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> speaking of whiches, you feel like getting your hands dirty with python code yet?
07:47 <Lucifer_arma> this thing will need a windows version, and it's a genuine pain for me to build for windows....  ;)
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> (I'll make a windows version, I'd just like to offload it onto someone)
07:49 <GodTodd> perhaps...but this week i have the whole "visit the family" thing...and a term paper and preparing a 10 minute oral presentation.....so dunno how much i'd be able to accomplish in the next week or so
07:49 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, taking a program like this and putting out a self-installable windows file is about 10 hours of work
07:50 <GodTodd> i might be able to squeeze it in in that case
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> assuming you already have the gear and the know-how.  I'll provide most of the gear, some you have to download (python, pyqt4, nsis)
07:50 <GodTodd> i have python
07:50 <Lucifer_arma> know-how is tricky, because what's needed depends on what's broke.  the paths module I use is pretty generic, and has been somewhat tested in windows already
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> since I route all platform specific stuff through that module, it *should* just work
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> other than that, you install pyqt4, nsis, and py2exe, and the setup.py file I'll build will handle it all
07:51 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should do the first one, and if you're interested in beating on it you can take it from there.  There really are quite a few places shit can go wrong.
07:52 <GodTodd> sure :)
07:52 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, I need to see if WINE will run python yet.  Once WINE runs python, I can build the windows version in linux.  :)
07:54 <GodTodd> ahhh
07:55 <Lucifer_arma> well, python's not listed, but that doesn't mean it won't run.  Only one way to find out...
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> haha, oops
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> I tried to make the ledger show a regular register view, like quicken.  But it's a double entry system
08:03 <Lucifer_arma> so in the withdrawal and credit columns it shows the same amount :/
08:05 <GodTodd> heh
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> it's a fairly simple fix, I need to determine if the account shown is the debit or credit account and suppress the inappropriate amount in the view
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> but that ui is new to me, I'm still getting the generic ledger working :)
08:09 <Lucifer_arma> just need a functional split editor for it and it's done
08:11 <GodTodd> cool :)
08:17 <DrJoeTron> someone turned the wii into a smart house computer
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> oh no, the governator broke his leg skiing!
09:05 <Lucifer_arma> he can't be an alpine anymore!
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> oh cool, I have a usable split editor :)
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10:21 <guru3> do the ocaisonal spam threads actually bother anyone?
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10:27 <RickyRoss> luke-jr the server has 200 ping
10:27 <RickyRoss> for everyone in it
10:27 <RickyRoss> what is this bs
10:27 <RickyRoss> its lagging like hell
10:27 <RickyRoss> luke-jr|work HELLO
10:27 <wrtlprnft> guru3: well, i don't like the spammers actually succeeding
10:28 <wrtlprnft> that's what they want, they don
10:28 <RickyRoss> wheres mr. luke
10:28 <RickyRoss> once i pay him he dissapears
10:28 <wrtlprnft> 't want humans to follow the links, but search engines
10:28 <wrtlprnft> i dunno where he is
10:28 <wrtlprnft> but it's like 4AM where he is
10:29 <RickyRoss> its like 1:30 am here
10:29 <wrtlprnft> well, i can't help you, sorry
10:29 <RickyRoss> his server doesn't let me restart
10:29 <RickyRoss> he disabled the page woot woot
10:30 <RickyRoss> because he doesn't he had crappy scripts that annoucned the server every time i restarted it and they wouldn't disspear from server list
10:30 <wrtlprnft> /admin quit?
10:30 <RickyRoss> how can i do that
10:30 <RickyRoss> in console
10:30 <wrtlprnft> remote admin?
10:30 <RickyRoss> ?
10:31 <RickyRoss>  Armagetron Server Administration
10:31 <RickyRoss> it doesn't let me type in commands
10:31 <RickyRoss> on his webpage
10:31 <RickyRoss> and if i quit server
10:31 <wrtlprnft> well, there's a builtin remote admin feature
10:31 <RickyRoss> i woldn't be able to put it back up
10:31 <RickyRoss> lol
10:31 <wrtlprnft> usually it should restart, but I can't guarantee you anything
10:31 <RickyRoss> you mean the control service right
10:31 <RickyRoss> Warning: Unknown: failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
10:32  * wrtlprnft loves the always messed up permissions on luke-jr|work's servers
10:32  * RickyRoss doesn't
10:32 <wrtlprnft> ↑ irony ↑
10:32 <RickyRoss> wrtl do you sell servers
10:33 <wrtlprnft> no
10:33 <RickyRoss> he has the payment page working
10:33 <RickyRoss> but not the service page
10:33 <wrtlprnft> heh
10:34 <guru3> lol
10:34 <guru3> no one's had any major complaints of the webmin page i wrote
10:34 <RickyRoss> do you know how to change the web admin for his server
10:34 <RickyRoss> and make it work
10:34 <RickyRoss> do you have access to his server
10:35 <RickyRoss> are you his employee?
10:35 <guru3> hahahahaha
10:35 <guru3> no
10:35 <RickyRoss> his janitor?
10:35 <RickyRoss> lwlwlwl
10:35 <guru3> i'm no ones employee atm
10:35 <RickyRoss> o rly
10:35 <guru3> i'm one of the project admins instead :>
10:35 <RickyRoss> i noticed on tron site lwl
10:35 <RickyRoss> do you have a life, jw
10:35 <guru3> ofc
10:35 <RickyRoss> i heard you guys that build tron have 200 mhz pcs
10:36 <RickyRoss> that you get 12 fps on
10:36 <RickyRoss> when you're lucky n stuff
10:36 <guru3> just happens to be holidays so nothing else going on
10:36 <wrtlprnft> not quite. but i have a 233MHz box standing around
10:36 <RickyRoss> hasn't tron been aroudn for like 5 years now.. 
10:36 <guru3> and armagetron's perfectly playable on a 133
10:36 <RickyRoss> lol.
10:36 <wrtlprnft> guru3: well, 0.2.8.* is
10:36 <RickyRoss> i haev a 133 mhz
10:36 <RickyRoss> bought 9 yrs ago
10:37 <RickyRoss> that i havn't touched in the past 7 yrs
10:38 <RickyRoss> and why does luke jr change my server name
10:38 <RickyRoss> when i write bad things about noobs like ed etc.
10:38 <wrtlprnft> that was me asking him to
10:38 <RickyRoss> do you pay for the server?
10:38 <wrtlprnft> no
10:38 <RickyRoss> then its none of your buisness
10:38 <wrtlprnft> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=svcterms
10:39 <RickyRoss> i just bought the server to diss ed
10:39 <wrtlprnft> We do not under any circumstances tolerate abuse of computers or people, nor illegal or immoral activity. Any attempts can result in suspension or termination of service, and depending on the severity, reporting to law enforcement authorities and/or pursing legal prosecution.
10:39 <wrtlprnft> - Spamming or harrassment
10:39 <RickyRoss> its not harassing anyone
10:39 <wrtlprnft> it is.
10:39 <RickyRoss> from a TV show
10:39 <RickyRoss> Ed is the name of a character
10:39 <RickyRoss> and i hate that character
10:39  * wrtlprnft wonders if -ct-Ed is a character
10:40 <RickyRoss> he is 
10:40 <RickyRoss> hes a counterstrike ed
10:40 <RickyRoss> duh
10:40 <RickyRoss> you play no other games than tron i guess
10:40 <wrtlprnft> then you're harrassing him
10:40 <RickyRoss> ever heard of cs?
10:40 <wrtlprnft> i don't play cs, no
10:40 <RickyRoss> its a made up character for video purposes for coutnerstrike
10:40 <RickyRoss> that i made 
10:40  * wrtlprnft hates fps games
10:40  * RickyRoss hates you
10:41 <wrtlprnft> likewise.
10:42 <RickyRoss> mk nerdies i've given you something to tell your noobs about when they grow up
10:42 <RickyRoss> you speaking to someone who doesn't spend their life on irc
10:42 <RickyRoss> shocking
10:42 <RickyRoss> bye :)
10:42 <wrtlprnft> remind me to ban you from my servers
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11:01  * Lucifer_arma wonders it that idiot even knows about ed the people
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14:51 <luke-jr|work> wrtlprnft: the webadmin server restart is disabled on lightfoot2 until I fix it to work w/ BASH 3
14:51 <guru3> it uses bash Oo
14:51 <luke-jr|work> the keepalive script does
14:52 <luke-jr|work> and BASH 3 likes to ignore SIGTERM
14:52 <guru3> :o
14:53 <guru3> my webmin doesn't use any bash ><
14:53 <luke-jr|work> ...
14:53 <guru3> or really
14:53 <guru3> just a tiny bit to start the server
14:53 <luke-jr|work> :p
14:53 <guru3> can't avoid that ><
14:53 <luke-jr|work> the web interface itself is php
14:53 <guru3> ofc it's probably no where near as secure as yours
14:53 <guru3> what with apache owning hte server <
14:53 <guru3> ><
14:54 <luke-jr|work> heh
14:54 <guru3> ofc apache does own the httpd server
14:54 <guru3> so it can't be too bad
14:55 <luke-jr|work> does it handle multiple Arma servers? :p
14:55 <guru3> yes
14:56 <guru3> just have to set them up
14:56 <luke-jr|work> and a crashed Arma server will autorestart? :p
14:56 <guru3> pfff
14:56 <guru3> what are you talking about
14:57 <guru3> it's so stable
14:57 <guru3> it'd never crash :>
14:58 <guru3> aka
14:58 <guru3> didn't come up with a good way to do that
14:58 <luke-jr|work> :)
14:59 <luke-jr|work> it leaks memory, so I have the server shutting down every hr when it's empty
14:59 <guru3> ><
14:59 <guru3> i'll stick it on my todo list
14:59 <guru3> along with server stats ><
15:00 <guru3> and probably double checking security
15:00 <luke-jr|work> hehe
15:00 <luke-jr|work> all mine run as individual users
15:00 <guru3> well too much work for me ><
15:00 <guru3> i did write mine in an hour ><
15:00 <luke-jr|work> heh
15:00 <guru3> or two ><
15:01 <guru3> then again i'm not making money off of it
15:01 <guru3> so it's probably all ok
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16:01 <spidey> happy holidays fuckers!
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16:01  * spidey notes "fuckers" was pointed at luke-jr|work :D
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17:55 <Genki> Does anyone EVER get any sleep in here?
17:56 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:56 <Genki> Wow someone is actually awake
17:56 <Genki> hey wrtl
17:56 <wrtlprnft> hi
17:56 <Genki> Ct right?
17:56 <wrtlprnft> err
17:57 <wrtlprnft> i'm not a ct member
17:57 <Genki> well... close enough
17:57 <wrtlprnft> but i'm probably the wrtlprnft you know
17:57 <Genki> good to know, at least someone familiar
17:57 <wrtlprnft> heh
17:57 <Genki> How are you this... uhhh day?
17:57 <Genki> morning? afternoon? evening?
17:58 <wrtlprnft> evening
17:58 <wrtlprnft> fine
17:58 <wrtlprnft> but i'll have to go soon, christmas is coming up :)
17:58 <Genki> just fine?
17:58 <Genki> ah yeah
17:58 <Genki> Merry Christmas
17:58 <Genki> eve
17:58 <wrtlprnft> ty, you too :)
17:59 <wrtlprnft> christmas is celebrated on christmas eve here
17:59 <Genki> o
17:59 <Genki> Merry Christmas then ^_^
17:59 <wrtlprnft> :)
17:59 <Genki> do you have to leave soon or can I ask questions?
17:59 <wrtlprnft> sure, go ahead
17:59 <wrtlprnft> not that soon
18:00 <wrtlprnft> soon = some 30 minutes
18:00 <Genki> ah okies
18:01 <Genki> ok what exactly do you do for the Cters?
18:01 <wrtlprnft> well, i'm a server admin
18:01 <wrtlprnft> adding maps, making sure that everything works, that stuff
18:01 <Genki> O.O wow really?
18:01 <wrtlprnft> and styball is hosted on my server
18:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah
18:02 <Genki> All I can say is you're doing a smashing job
18:02 <wrtlprnft> ty
18:02 <Genki> excellent
18:02 <wrtlprnft> most of the creative stuff is done by ed, though
18:02 <Genki> I don't really know ed either ^_^
18:03 <Genki> do you play much in CTWF?
18:03 <wrtlprnft> quite often
18:03 <wrtlprnft> though not always under my normal nick
18:03 <Genki> ah ok
18:03 <Genki> have you ever played with me?
18:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i've seen you
18:04 <wrtlprnft> though i didn't really watch you play
18:04 <wrtlprnft> you neither struck me as a teamkiller or idiot, nor as someone who's aways at the top of the score table
18:05 <Genki> haha, yep that's me, just don't suck badly enough to get kicked
18:05 <Genki> in fact... I've never been kicked from that server lol
18:05 <guru3> that's the spirit
18:05 <Genki> even when I first started playing
18:05 <Genki> Ok so moving away from arma, what other hobbies do you have?
18:06 <wrtlprnft> if you get the concept of grinding and know what a teammate is, you probably won't get kicked
18:06 <wrtlprnft> well, skiing, for example
18:06 <Genki> heh, guess I'm lucky I had good friends like 3dot and wargasm
18:06 <Genki> skiing!
18:06 <Genki> you have snow where you are?
18:07 <wrtlprnft> not right now, it's pretty warm for the time of the year
18:07 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft actually breathes ice
18:07 <Genki> Ahh!
18:07 <Genki> oh hey Dr
18:07 <DrJoeTron> true yet inetersting story behind that
18:07 <Genki> do tell
18:07 <DrJoeTron> interesting*
18:07 <wrtlprnft> though some 150 kilometres south, in the alps, there's some snow
18:07 <wrtlprnft> but not enough so it's actually fun to ski
18:07 <DrJoeTron> hmmm
18:07 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60016
18:07 <Genki> :( I'm in arizona, never any snow here
18:07 <guru3> snow wiiiiii ^^
18:08 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is 29.0°F. Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 96%. Wind: S at 3 mph (5 km/h).
18:08 <DrJoeTron> we've had some heavy fog
18:08 <DrJoeTron> thats about it
18:08 <Genki> fog... I haven't seen that in 3 years
18:08 <DrJoeTron> febuary is going to be devastating here
18:08 <Genki> longer for snow
18:08 <Genki> why?
18:08 <guru3> arizone... warm...
18:08 <DrJoeTron> its a warm december
18:09 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: at your place, too?
18:09 <guru3> seems like it's unusually warm everywhere this winter
18:09 <DrJoeTron> yeah man
18:09 <DrJoeTron> last time it was like this
18:09 <DrJoeTron> it kept snowing untill mid april
18:09 <Genki> You know I think this is the one time I've talked about the weather and it's interesting
18:09 <guru3> just shifting winter a few months eh
18:10 <DrJoeTron> only July and august are the only months that don't have record snow fall in Illinois :)
18:10 <Genki> wow
18:10 <DrJoeTron> <---Chicago
18:10 <Genki> you mean it snowed in April?
18:10 <Genki> ooooo
18:10 <guru3> warmest winter in like 150 years here
18:10 <Genki> where?
18:10 <guru3> sweden
18:11 <Genki> o
18:11 <wrtlprnft> probably would still feel cold to me
18:11 <DrJoeTron> I wanna go skitchin' damn it :/
18:11 <Genki> skitchin'?
18:11 <guru3> it was like 8 out the other day
18:11 <guru3> (C)
18:11 <Genki> eek
18:11 <DrJoeTron> when you hang on the back of a car while It drags you
18:11 <guru3> it's incredible
18:11 <Genki> O.O
18:11 <wrtlprnft> Genki: see, someone just has to bring up a somewhat interesting topic and have the luck that someone listens and the channel comes to life
18:11 <DrJoeTron> we do it in the snow :d
18:11 <Genki> it's like 16C here and I'm FREEZING
18:12 <DrJoeTron> usually with our bodies or phone books, or whatever we can find
18:12 <wrtlprnft> guru3: 8°C? wow, that's not that cold
18:12 <guru3> yeah i was amazed
18:12 <DrJoeTron> used a ford taurus bumper we found :"D
18:12 <guru3> december and i couldn't see my breath
18:12 <wrtlprnft> freezing at 16 degrees?
18:12 <DrJoeTron> I think In 04 it snowed in april
18:13 <Genki> yep I'm cold
18:13 <Genki> easily
18:13 <guru3> 16C is like summer here
18:13 <DrJoeTron> right before I left for spring break
18:13 <Genki> yeah well I'm cold
18:13 <DrJoeTron> back when I was in still in high school
18:13 <Genki> wow
18:13 <DrJoeTron> (which wasn't very long ago)
18:13 <Genki> haha
18:13  * Genki is still in High School
18:14 <DrJoeTron> I graduated in 05
18:14 <wrtlprnft> 16C is just about the temperature i like
18:14 <Genki> yeah well I'm still cold
18:14  * guru3 graduated end of 06 school year
18:14 <wrtlprnft> not too hot, but still not too cold to wear a t-shirt
18:14  * Genki will graduate in 09
18:14 <Genki> :(
18:14 <guru3> young :o
18:14 <DrJoeTron> yay guru3!
18:14  * wrtlprnft will graduate in 08
18:14 <DrJoeTron> how is college treating you?
18:15 <guru3> like a kick in the genitals :D
18:15 <Genki> haha
18:15 <DrJoeTron> haha
18:15 <wrtlprnft> though we have 13 years of school here
18:15 <Genki> here?
18:15 <DrJoeTron> this semester was amazing
18:15 <Genki> why's that?
18:15 <DrJoeTron> because I actually did good :)
18:15 <Genki> haha
18:15 <DrJoeTron> I was such a slacker in high school
18:15 <guru3> i was too
18:16 <guru3> still am this year
18:16 <DrJoeTron> I was kind of last year
18:16 <Genki> well I can graduate by the end of this year if I feel like it
18:16 <DrJoeTron> but mainly because I didnt have a choice
18:16 <DrJoeTron> thats when I changed majors :D
18:16 <Genki> hat's your major?
18:16 <Genki> what*
18:16 <wrtlprnft> i could have left school 2½ years ago
18:16 <guru3> had to pick my degree well before i started uni ><
18:16 <DrJoeTron> right now, I'm settling for graphic design
18:16 <DrJoeTron> before it was music
18:17 <Genki> I would fail in either of those majors
18:17 <DrJoeTron> but they treated me really poorly, so it was a waste of a year and money
18:17 <guru3> ive got no artistic talent :>
18:17  * Genki agrees with guru
18:17 <DrJoeTron> I have none either
18:17 <guru3> give me a high five Genki :)
18:17 <guru3> lol joe
18:17 <Genki> haha
18:17 <DrJoeTron> guru3 thats not true
18:17 <Genki> me gives guru3 a high five
18:17 <DrJoeTron> you have amazing art
18:17 <DrJoeTron> :D
18:17 <Genki> aww
18:17  * wrtlprnft 's artistic talent is nonexistant
18:17 <DrJoeTron> I rock with photoshop
18:18 <DrJoeTron> but I cant draw
18:18 <DrJoeTron> unless its mspaint
18:18 <spidey> ..
18:18 <Genki> I can draw a bit...
18:18 <wrtlprnft> nonexistant/nonexistent? w/e
18:18 <guru3> haha i just do stick figures
18:18 <Genki> hey spidey
18:18 <spidey> hi?
18:18 <DrJoeTron> I do too
18:18 <DrJoeTron> and dinosaurs :d
18:18 <Genki> I do anime type art...
18:18 <Genki> ooo draw me a dinosaur
18:18 <spidey> guru3, i'll give you a dollar to kick luke-jr|work 
18:18 <guru3> sounds better than either of us
18:18 <guru3> spidey: i'd settle for a donation to the armagetronad project
18:19 <wrtlprnft> http://forums.armagetronad.net/images/avatars/1232395580440a0e61ae4c3.png
18:19 <wrtlprnft> proof that guru3 can draw
18:19 <spidey> guru3, i would if i could :/
18:19 <DrJoeTron> my graphic design class was so weak
18:19 <Genki> weak?
18:19 <DrJoeTron> we did absolutely nothing and I still got an a
18:19 <guru3> i had a design course this sememster
18:19 <guru3> have one this coming one too
18:19 <wrtlprnft> spidey: don't have a dollar?
18:19 <DrJoeTron> http://76.215.5.168/Awesome.gif this is what I accomplished while everyone was working dilligently
18:20 <DrJoeTron> spelling?
18:20 <spidey> wrtlprnft, eh?
18:20 <wrtlprnft> 18:19 <spidey> guru3, i would if i could :/
18:20 <guru3> nice joe
18:20 <Genki> better then me wrtlprnft
18:20 <DrJoeTron> :)
18:20 <spidey> wrtlprnft, ....
18:20 <Genki> well with mspaint
18:20 <guru3> there's a link on my website to my art
18:20 <wrtlprnft> Genki: note that this is guru3's work, not mine
18:21 <DrJoeTron> mspaint is an essential program to windows xp
18:21 <DrJoeTron> along with solitaire
18:21 <Genki> I'm on a Mac right now :(
18:21 <Genki> I prefer spider solitare
18:21 <DrJoeTron> I should really take down my site
18:21 <Genki> solitaire?
18:21 <wrtlprnft> Genki: i'm sure macs come with better graphics tools than windows pcs
18:22 <guru3> linux + gimp
18:22 <guru3> all the way
18:22 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft didn't get my dry dry humor
18:22 <wrtlprnft> gimp for complicated stuff, kolourpaint for simple stuff :)
18:22 <guru3> koulourpaint? that sounds suspiciously like something KDE
18:22 <wrtlprnft> it is
18:22 <DrJoeTron> its almost embarassing to look at
18:23 <wrtlprnft> and it's waay better than paint, but still almost as simple
18:23 <DrJoeTron> considering what it is and how old I was when I first started doing it :d
18:23 <guru3> gimp ^^
18:23 <guru3> i like using my tablet with it
18:23 <guru3> to do random sketches
18:23 <DrJoeTron> I need a tablet
18:23 <guru3> mines like 5 years old or something
18:23 <guru3> uses the serial port
18:24 <guru3> was a bitch to get working with X too ><
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18:24 <wrtlprnft> i'd love to have one of those for inkscape
18:24 <wrtlprnft> which is my preferred tool to do graphics (and aamaps) currently
18:24 <wrtlprnft> it would be fun to be able to use a tablet to draw aamaps
18:25 <DrJoeTron> I want goldeneye source out now :/
18:25 <guru3> that'd be crazy wrtlprnft 
18:25 <wrtlprnft> fun.
18:25 <DrJoeTron> so I can relive junior high in half life 2 form
18:25 <wrtlprnft> just need a faster rendering engine
18:25 <guru3> ><
18:26 <DrJoeTron> oh man
18:26 <DrJoeTron> I can actulally walk in my room now
18:27 <wrtlprnft> would be even more fun to have the walls appear life in the game
18:27 <DrJoeTron> maybe I should set up the wii finally :V
18:27 <wrtlprnft> you know, to kill people you don't like
18:27 <wrtlprnft> god mode arma :)
18:28 <guru3> i keep meaning to write something with good mode in
18:28 <guru3> or alternateively you could call it no clip
18:28 <guru3> it's the same thing in tron ><
18:29 <DrJoeTron> anyone have a ds? :D
18:29 <wrtlprnft> not /me
18:29 <Genki> my brother does
18:30 <DrJoeTron> D: I feel like such a tool box
18:30 <Genki> think outside the box Dr
18:30 <DrJoeTron> no one else has it but me
18:30 <spidey> DrJoeTron, pass the wrench
18:30 <Genki> lol
18:30 <DrJoeTron> spidey what size?
18:30 <Genki> I thought you said wench for a minute
18:30 <spidey> metric, size 8
18:31 <DrJoeTron> shit, let me keep looking
18:31 <DrJoeTron> here!...wait thats not it
18:31 <guru3> dses look cool tho
18:31 <DrJoeTron> AH found it, here ya go
18:31 <DrJoeTron> I wanna play against people :/
18:32 <DrJoeTron> I have a rough time playing online games if I don't know the person
18:32 <Genki> If I can steal it from my brother I'll play with you
18:32 <DrJoeTron> haha
18:32 <guru3> shouldn't be a problem if you've got fast hands
18:32 <Genki> but I rather not go snooping through my brother's room
18:32 <Genki> yeah I have nimbles fingers
18:32 <guru3> scary shit in there eh
18:32 <spidey> DrJoeTron, defcon!
18:33 <DrJoeTron> I share a room with my brother
18:33 <Genki> but who knows what's under my broter's mattress
18:33 <DrJoeTron> he's 22
18:33 <DrJoeTron> its a nightmare :V
18:33 <Genki> eek
18:33 <guru3> ouch
18:33 <guru3> when i moved to university housing
18:33 <DrJoeTron> I'm moving out the first chance I get
18:33 <guru3> i got promoted to a room
18:33 <guru3> before i just had 3 walls :<
18:33 <spidey> wow
18:33 <spidey> i have a whole upstairs
18:33 <spidey> 2 ROOMS!
18:33 <spidey> now what?
18:33 <Genki> lucky
18:33 <DrJoeTron> I have a high school diploma "D
18:34 <spidey> i will :p
18:34 <Genki> lol
18:34 <guru3> lol joe
18:34 <guru3> ive got an IB diploma
18:34 <spidey> oooohhhhh
18:34 <spidey> now what?
18:34 <spidey> what's IB?
18:35 <Genki> ditto
18:35 <Genki> what IS IB?
18:35 <spidey> lol
18:35 <guru3> international baccelaureate
18:35 <spidey> o
18:35 <guru3> smth like that
18:35  * Genki is still confused
18:35 <guru3> google it my man
18:35 <guru3> when it doubt, google out
18:36 <guru3> er, or something
18:36 <spidey> google's for people like luke-jr|work 
18:36 <spidey> now
18:36 <spidey> do YOU want to be like luke-jr|work ?
18:36 <Genki> lol I just googled it relax
18:36 <DrJoeTron> guru3, you and I
18:36 <guru3> let's see... a relatively sucessful guy who's good at programming and has several high bandwith servers
18:36 <DrJoeTron> lets do a diploma high five
18:36 <guru3> damn, it'd suck to be like that
18:36  * guru3 high fives joe
18:36 <DrJoeTron> we'll high five each other with our diplomas
18:37 <spidey> lol
18:37 <DrJoeTron> and send it to spidey :D
18:37 <guru3> i thought you were supposed to slap with diplomas
18:37 <DrJoeTron> we are
18:37 <guru3> "what'd the diploma say to the face?"
18:37 <guru3> "SLAP."
18:37 <DrJoeTron> haha
18:37  * spidey burns them
18:37 <DrJoeTron> do to the spidey clause
18:37 <wrtlprnft> ok, cya :)
18:37 <guru3> that's ok i've got two
18:37 <DrJoeTron> THERE CAN BE ONLY NONE!
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09:55 <wrtlprnft> #morning
09:55 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune: De-fault! The two sweetest words in the English language. || -- Homer Simpson || Deep Space Homer
09:55 <wrtlprnft> did i miss anything?
09:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 09:39:21 < [Xpert]DarkStar> merry xmas to you all
09:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 09:48:20 < TheGrinch> that's right.  The one day a year everyone swears to be nice to each other so they can be dickless turds every  other day of the year.
09:57 <[Xpert]DarkStar> 09:48:26 < TheGrinch> Merry Fucking Christmas
09:58 <TheGrinch> tell me I"m wrong and I"ll show you the "ban by ping" thread
09:59 <[Xpert]DarkStar> oh come on you don't want to threaten me, do you?
10:00 <TheGrinch> worse yet, I'll steal your christmas tree
10:01 <[Xpert]DarkStar> good that i have none then
10:01 <TheGrinch> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=11911
10:01 <TheGrinch> do I now have to dig up the "ban these jokers from all of arma" thread?
10:03 <wrtlprnft> [Xpert]DarkStar: merry christmas, though christmas eve is over already :P
10:04 <[Xpert]DarkStar> indeed
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13:27 <DrJoeTron> ALRIGHT
13:28 <DrJoeTron> WHICH ONE OF YOU KILLED JAMES BROWN
13:45 <wrtlprnft> not /me
13:55 <DrJoeTron> D:
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17:15  * spidey yawns
17:15 <spidey> merry christmas!
17:16 <spidey> uness you're in australia
17:16 <spidey> o.O
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17:16 <spidey> ew
17:17 <ghableska> ugh
17:17 <spidey> it's that.....that...thing
17:17  * ghableska waves at spidey
17:17 <spidey> #dropkick ghableska 
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17:19 <ghableska> hi Lack_a_daisical
17:19 <Genki> *yawns* spidey you still causing trouble?
17:19 <spidey> always :p
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17:20 <Genki> ugh not so early in the morning, it's 9:20 :(
17:20 <spidey> 10:20
17:21 <Genki> 9:20 for me
17:21 <spidey> 10:20
17:21 <Genki> I think I had too much eggnog
17:21 <spidey> ew
17:21 <Genki> and ham
17:21 <Genki> well not really
17:21 <spidey> for the last 3 days i've been doing nothing but getting high and eating leftovers
17:21 <Genki> anywho Merry Christmas Spidey
17:21 <Genki> nice spidey
17:22 <spidey> cause xmas leftovers own even if the dinner was early :D
17:22 <Genki> why?
17:22 <Genki> lol
17:22 <Genki> I just went to a party
17:22 <ghableska> 10:22
17:22 <Genki> 9:22
17:22 <spidey> 10:22
17:22 <spidey> out voted
17:22 <Genki> where are you?
17:23 <ghableska> #weather 50265
17:23 <spidey> tennessee
17:23 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 32.0°F (9:54 AM CST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa. 
17:23 <spidey> #cnn 38256
17:23 <ghableska> in Paris
17:23 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 43.0°F. Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 91%. Wind: NNE at 10 mph (16 km/h).
17:23 <spidey> lol
17:23 <ghableska> it lies!
17:23 <ghableska> clear skies all around
17:23 <Genki> lol
17:23 <ghableska> it's not overcast
17:23 <Genki> how can I check mine?
17:23 <ghableska> #weather [insert zip code]
17:23 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "[insert zip code]".
17:24 <Genki> lol
17:24 <Genki> #weather 85747
17:24 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Fast Horse Ranch, Vail, Arizona is 50.2°F (9:19 AM MST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa. 
17:24 <Genki> seems about right
17:25  * spidey yawns
17:25 <Genki> why are you tired?
17:26 <Genki> or why are you yawning?
17:26 <spidey> i got woke up early
17:26 <spidey> so they could tell me
17:26 <spidey> my cousins girlfriends water broke
17:26 <spidey> and do i want to ride
17:26 <Genki> lol
17:26 <Genki> wow
17:26 <spidey> to the hospital, i was like
17:26 <spidey> "hell no leave me alone!"
17:27 <Genki> yep definitely too much eggnog
17:28 <spidey> eggnog sucks
17:28 <Genki> I honestly hate eggs, but you gotta love the alcohol
17:29 <spidey> i don't drink much
17:29 <Genki> neither do I, but it was the one time I'm allowed to so I took it
17:30 <spidey> man
17:30 <Genki> ?
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17:30 <spidey> i just ate a bowl on ice cream, now i'm cooooooooooooooooooooold
17:31 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, merry x-mas :D
17:31 <Genki> you Lucifer_arma
17:31 <Genki> yo*
17:31 <Genki> ugh I wish I had ice-crea,
17:31 <Genki> cream*
17:31  * Genki pukes on spidey
17:31 <Genki> :-D
17:31 <spidey> :/
17:31  * Genki feels better now
17:31 <spidey> you ruined my shirt :<
17:32 <Genki> sry
17:32 <Lucifer_arma> coold - past tense for cool
17:32 <spidey> lol
17:32 <Genki> really?
17:33 <Genki> wow I am so gullible
17:33 <Genki> lol
17:33 <spidey> lmao
17:33 <Genki> #cnn 85747
17:33 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Davis Monthan Afb, AZ is 42.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 29%. Wind: CLM at 0 mph (0 km/h).
17:34 <Genki> 42!
17:34 <Genki> noooooo
17:34 <Genki> I don't wanna go to work
17:34 <Genki> :(
17:34 <spidey> lol
17:36 <Genki> well at least it's not windy
17:37 <Genki> So did you guys get anything for Christmas?
17:38 <spidey> no ;p
17:38 <Genki> well I got a book lol, think my mom is trying to tell me something?
17:38 <spidey> to get your ass reading?
17:38 <spidey> ntn
17:38 <spidey> brb
17:38 <spidey> *******
17:38 <Genki> lol k
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18:15  * spidey yawns
18:21  * Genki yawns too
18:22 <Genki> Spidey wanna read my story?
18:23 <Genki> http://www.fictionpress.com/s/2294307/1/ - it's not finished, but whoever sees this can read it if they want, it's more of a chick thing though
18:23 <Genki> :-D so I know spidey will want to read it
18:23 <Genki> :P
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18:31 <spidey> :/
18:32 <Genki> hey spidey
18:32 <Genki> again
18:32 <spidey> hi
18:32 <Genki> brb gotta open presents lol
18:32 <spidey> luke-jr_work, ping
18:35 <Genki> ok I lied I got $50 for christmas now
18:36 <Genki> and some candy
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18:43 <spidey> lol
18:46 <Genki> what?
18:47 <spidey> i'm missing half a movie :/
18:48 <Genki> why?
18:48 <Genki> what movie?
18:48 <spidey> jurrasic park, the lost world :D
18:48 <Genki> lol
18:49  * spidey loves jurrasic park  1-3 the matrix 1-3 and all zombie movies :D
18:49  * Genki agrees with spiedy
18:49  * Genki meant spidey
18:50  * Genki still likes the chick flicks though
18:50 <spidey> there's this one guy on forums for another game that calls me "speedday"
18:50 <spidey> >.>
18:52 <Genki> lol
18:56 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/kyle/speed/dome-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
18:56 <spidey> #list alias
18:56 <armabot> spidey: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, rules, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
18:57 <spidey> #armabot
18:57 <armabot> spidey: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
18:57 <spidey> #help armabot
18:57 <armabot> spidey: (armabot <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "eightball $*".
18:57 <spidey> #ircstats
18:57 <armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
18:59 <spidey> spidey wasn't very popular, getting kicked 5 times!  <--mean :(
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18:59 <Genki> haha brb, my sis wants my laptop
19:01 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
19:02 <spidey> hi ghableska
19:03 <ghableska> yes!
19:03 <spidey> NO!
19:03 <ghableska> I don't write the shortest lines any more. :D
19:03 <spidey> lol
19:04 -!- ghableska is now known as Wuttle
19:04 <Wuttle> FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
19:04 <spidey> damn wuttles
19:04 -!- Wuttle is now known as ghableska
19:04 <spidey> hey
19:04 <ghableska> hmm
19:04 <spidey> watch your language or i'm telling you mom!
19:04 <ghableska> maybe I can beat fcukfcuk
19:04 <Genki> at what?
19:05 <spidey> who what/
19:05 <Genki> o nvm
19:05 <spidey> Poor spidey, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 97 times.
19:05 <spidey> For example, like this:     <--  :(
19:05  * ghableska slaps spidey
19:06 <spidey> spidey is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 105 times.
19:06 <spidey> For example, like this:
19:06 <spidey>      * spidey slaps mom 
19:06 <spidey> :D
19:06  * spidey slaps ghableska 
19:06  * Genki rolls eyes
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19:06  * spidey slaps Genki 
19:07 <Genki> O.O
19:07  * Genki slaps spidey
19:07 <spidey> hmmm
19:07  * Genki kicks spidey in the balls
19:07 <spidey> >:|
19:07 <Genki> you started it
19:07 <spidey> nuh-uh
19:07 <spidey> ghableska, did
19:08 <Genki> you started it with me
19:08 <spidey> nope :D
19:09 <Genki> you really want to start with me?
19:09 <Genki> #list alias
19:10 <armabot> Genki: add, armabot, armaconfig, bug, chatlog, check, date, digg, do, eliza, f, fortune, g, gcalc, goodbye, hello, insight, ircstats, joke, lastseen, legit, lock, log, log, luke, m, man, message, mfaq, morning, night, onlineplayers, piong, poing, pong, praise, q, realchatlogs, remove, resources, rules, serverdetails, serverinfo, svn, t, uberinsult, unlock, and wikipedia
19:10 <spidey> lawl
19:10 <Genki> :-D
19:10 <Genki> #armabot
19:10 <armabot> Genki: The answer is a resounding no.
19:10 <Genki> hahaha
19:10 <Genki> armabot can I kick spidey's butt?
19:11 <Genki> #armabot
19:11 <armabot> Genki: Unlikely.
19:11 <spidey> pwn
19:11 <Genki> O.O
19:11 <Genki> lol
19:11 <Genki> armabot can spidey kick my ass?
19:11 <Genki> #armabot
19:11 <armabot> Genki: No clue.
19:11 <ghableska> #weather Ulaanbaatar
19:11 <Genki> haha
19:11 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia is -14.8°F (2:00 AM ULAT on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -20.2°F. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa. 
19:12 <ghableska> brr
19:12 <spidey> -14!?!?
19:12 <spidey> omg
19:12 <Genki> eek
19:12 <Genki> I would die
19:12 <ghableska> #weather Fairbanks
19:12 <spidey> i would die with heat :/
19:12 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Fairbanks, AK is -8.0°F. Conditions: Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Wind: CLM at 0 mph (0 km/h).
19:12 <Genki> #weather 85747
19:12 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Fast Horse Ranch, Vail, Arizona is 57.6°F (11:09 AM MST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Falling). 
19:12 <spidey> AK?
19:12 <spidey> wtf's AK
19:13 <Genki> no idea
19:13 <ghableska> ...
19:13 <ghableska> Alaska.
19:13 <Genki> lol
19:13 <spidey> alaska sucks though
19:13 <Genki> my friend lives there
19:13 <spidey> #cnn 38256
19:13 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 43.0°F. Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 91%. Wind: N at 10 mph (16 km/h).
19:14 <spidey> #cnn paris
19:14 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, IL is 37.0°F. Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Wind: NNW at 3 mph (5 km/h).
19:14 <spidey> IL??
19:14 <Genki> lol
19:14 <Genki> #cnn tucson
19:14 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Tucson, AZ is 55.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 17%. Wind: ESE at 19 mph (31 km/h).
19:15 <Genki> #cnn 85747
19:15 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Davis Monthan Afb, AZ is 55.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 18%. Wind: ESE at 13 mph (21 km/h).
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19:17 <Genki> armabot should spidey be nice to me?
19:17 <Genki> #armabot
19:17 <armabot> Genki: Maybe...
19:18 <spidey> ...
19:18 <spidey> you put # infront of armabot on the same line :p
19:18 <Genki> I was wondering if that would work or not lol
19:18 <spidey> like
19:18 <Genki> #armabot is spidey stupid?
19:19 <armabot> Genki: Come again?
19:19 <Genki> lol
19:19 <ghableska> haha
19:19 <Genki> #armabot is spidey stupid?
19:19 <armabot> Genki: What are you asking me for?
19:19 <Genki> #armabot Is spidey dumb?
19:19 <armabot> Genki: The answer is certainly yes.
19:19 <Genki> HAHAHAHA
19:19 <spidey> bastard
19:20 <Genki> ask it something spidey
19:20 <ghableska> #armabot Do you lie?
19:20 <armabot> ghableska: You know the answer better than I.
19:20 <Genki> oooo
19:20 <spidey> #armabot why did you say i are dumb? :(
19:20 <armabot> spidey: Of course.
19:20 <spidey> ..
19:20 <Genki> haha
19:20 <spidey> #armabot why did you say i are dumb? :(
19:20 <spidey> #armabot why did you say i are dumb? :(
19:20 <armabot> spidey: It shall be.
19:20 <armabot> spidey: It is so.
19:20 <spidey> ...
19:20 <Genki> lmao
19:20 <Genki> #armabot Am I a girl?
19:20 <armabot> Genki: The answer is certainly yes.
19:21 <Genki> :P
19:21 <spidey> it lies
19:21 <Genki> #armabot are you lying?
19:21 <armabot> Genki: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
19:21 <Genki> haha'
19:21 <spidey> told ya :D
19:21 <Genki> #armabot are you a liar?
19:21 <armabot> Genki: One would be wise to think so.
19:21 <Genki> hahaha
19:22 <Genki> #armabot is spidey due for an ass kicking?
19:22 <armabot> Genki: Naturally.
19:22 <Genki> :-D
19:22 <spidey> BUT
19:22 <spidey> armabot done said you can't
19:22 <spidey> pwn
19:22 <Genki> lol
19:22 <Genki> #armabot can I kick spidey's butt now?
19:22 <armabot> Genki: What are you asking me for?
19:23 <Genki> #armabot cause I can
19:23 <armabot> Genki: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
19:23 <spidey> #eliza HI!
19:23 <armabot> spidey: How do you do? What brings you to see me?
19:23 <Genki> eliza?
19:23 <spidey> it's a stupid AI 
19:23 <spidey> ;p
19:24 <Genki> lol
19:24 <ghableska> #eliza What do you think?
19:24 <armabot> ghableska: What do you think?
19:24 <ghableska> #eliza What do I think?
19:25 <armabot> ghableska: What do you think?
19:25 <ghableska> #eliza What does spidey think?
19:25 <Genki> lol
19:25 <armabot> ghableska: What do you think?
19:25 <ghableska> ...
19:25 <Genki> ahahah
19:25 <spidey> #eliza should i drop ghableska ?
19:25 <armabot> spidey: What do you think?
19:26 <Genki> drop?
19:26 <ghableska> haha
19:26 <spidey> #eliza i think i should, but why do you always say what do you think?
19:26 <armabot> spidey: Is it because do me always that you came to me?
19:26 <ghableska> #eliza fuck me
19:26 <armabot> ghableska: Are you afraid of sex?
19:26 <Genki> lol
19:26 <spidey> <armabot> spidey: Is it because do me always that you came to me?    <---wtf
19:27 <spidey>  argh
19:27 <spidey> only x-mas music on the radio :<
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19:28 <ghableska> spidey: http://www.download.com/3000-2390-10553349.html
19:28 <spidey> ??
19:28 <Vanhayes> thats because its christmas time spidey 
19:28 <spidey> so
19:29 <spidey> doesn't mean i wanna hear the stuff
19:29 <Vanhayes> so, what do you expect them to play this time of year?
19:29 <ghableska> don't you want it?
19:29 <spidey> they've played it since fuckin thanksgiving
19:29 <Vanhayes> only been on here for about a half month
19:30  * spidey burns a cd
19:30 <ghableska> 3d alien babies vs. Osama, come on, you have to want it!
19:30 <Vanhayes> and I like christmas music, well most of it
19:30 <spidey> ,,
19:30 <spidey> ..
19:30 <spidey> i hate it, after listening to it for a month
19:31 <spidey> i'm cold :(
19:31 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
19:31 <ghableska> move to Mongolia, then
19:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 40°F / 5°C | Humidity: 34% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 2:00 PM AST; Today - Sunny. Wind southwest 20 km/h becoming light this afternoon. High plus 4.; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness late this evening. Low minus 2.; Tuesday - Cloudy. Rain mixed with snow beginning in the morning changing to snow in the (1 more message)
19:31 <spidey> fuck you
19:31 <Vanhayes> #more
19:31 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:31 <armabot> Vanhayes: evening. Risk of freezing rain in the morning. Rainfall amount 10 to 15 mm. Snowfall amount 2 to 4 cm. Wind becoming east 30 km/h in the afternoon then becoming northeast 30 in the evening. High plus 2.;
19:31 <spidey> it's like -14 there
19:31 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 35.6°F (11:54 AM CST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa. 
19:32 <Vanhayes> we had a pretty warm christmas this year, it sucked
19:32 <spidey> it ALWAYS rains on christmas
19:32 <spidey> if it doesn't rain, it snows
19:32 <Vanhayes> snow is good
19:32 <spidey> i like snow
19:32 <spidey> rain sucks
19:33 <Vanhayes> for the last three years we have gotten barely any snow during the winter
19:33 <spidey> same
19:34 <Vanhayes> I remember when 2 feet was normal, now id take half a foot
19:34 <ghableska> :/
19:34 <spidey> heh
19:34 <spidey> global warming ftw :p
19:36 <spidey> i'ma go play defcon 
19:36 <spidey> bb in about 2 hours :p
19:38  * Genki waves goodbye to spidey
19:38 <spidey> that is if anyone's on...
19:38  * spidey sits and waits
19:38 <Genki> sry was teaching someone how to order beer in Korean
19:38 <spidey> o.O
19:38 <Genki> it's a long story
19:39 <ghableska> #armaservers
19:39 <armabot> ghableska: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
19:39 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
19:39 <Genki> :O
19:39 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): Ady, DOPE, free kill, Kamakazi, Lithium, SmashnCrash, Sticky, Xell ~*SP*~, ~*SP*~ D3M0N, °¯AshitakA
19:39 <Genki> #serverdetails wild
19:39 <armabot> Genki: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (9/14): carlton, Ctr+Alt+Supr, god, MaFy///>>CLC, Player 1, Pluto, ~ $teffen ~, ~*SP*~BlackFang, °PR3DAT0R°	alf
19:40 <Genki> can anyone speak any other languages other than English?
19:46 <[NP]Tangent> hablo un poquito espanol
20:02 <Genki> you speak a little spanish?
20:02 <ghableska> que?
20:02 <Genki> cool ^_^
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20:03 <Genki> you asking me or NP?
20:08 <ghableska> http://www.hlcomic.com/index.php?date=2005-10-07
20:08 <ghableska> hahaha
20:11 <Genki> omg lol
20:11 <Genki> yep I'd be the teachers pet
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20:30 <DrJoeTron> I spent all of my wii points :/
20:31 <ghableska> hmm?
20:31 <DrJoeTron> on the wii
20:31 <ghableska> what are they?
20:32 <DrJoeTron> points you use to buy games
20:32 <ghableska> oh
20:32 <ghableska> what did you spend them on?
20:33 <DrJoeTron> toejam and earl, bomberman 93, and legend of zelda
20:39 <Genki> how is legend of zelda? are the graphics good?
20:41 <DrJoeTron> same as it was 20 years ago
20:41 <Genki> I wasn't alive 20 years ago
20:42 <DrJoeTron> actually wait
20:42 <DrJoeTron> 18 years ago
20:42 <Genki> I wasn't alive 18 years ago
20:42 <DrJoeTron> you aught to be
20:42 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: you're 20, right?
20:42 <DrJoeTron> yeah
20:50 <Genki> wait what? you're 20? I thought you were around Lucifer's age! Or was that Todd?
20:50 <Genki> nvm...
20:54 <spidey> HAHAHAH
20:54 <spidey> grandpas
20:54 <spidey> :D
20:55  * Genki slaps spidey
20:55 <Genki> t up
20:55 <ghableska> how old are you? 7?
20:55 <Genki> shut up*
20:55 <Genki> :P
20:55 <spidey> 17
20:55 <spidey> bitch :(
20:55 <Genki> wanna go spidey? :P
20:55 <spidey> ?
20:55 <spidey> go where?
20:55 <Genki> uhh DQ
20:55 <spidey> fast food sucks
20:55 <Genki> I just want ice-cream
20:56 <Genki> :(
20:56 <spidey> there ice cream sucks to :p
20:56 <Genki> you're just jealous
20:56 <spidey> nah, i have ice cream :p
20:56 <spidey> bbiab, gonna play another game of defcon :D
20:56 <Genki> yeah well I'm gonna eat it
20:56 <spidey> DrJoeTron, wanna play?
20:57 <spidey> 1 place in my server left
20:57 <spidey> better get it :p
20:59 <spidey> well
20:59 <spidey> it was full, now it's not :p
21:00 <Genki> defcon?
21:01 <spidey> yea
21:01 <spidey> www.everyone-dies.com
21:01 <Genki> o... it's blocked
21:01 <Genki> :(
21:02 <spidey> heh
21:02 <spidey> i bet it's just IE settings
21:03 <spidey> like, change the security settings then change them back when you're done
21:03 <Genki> I would if I knew how and I don't think I can because this laptop sucks
21:05 <spidey> lol
21:05 <spidey> DrJoeTron, to late :p
21:06 <DrJoeTron> Genki get firefox
21:10  * ghableska rubs eyes
21:11 <Genki> tired?
21:11 <ghableska> yeah :/
21:11 <Genki> take a nap?
21:12 <ghableska> maybe...
21:12 <ghableska> http://www.hlcomic.com/index.php?date=2006-09-07
21:12 <ghableska> haha
21:14 <DrJoeTron> anyone else have a wii? :/
21:14 <Genki> nice ghableska
21:14 <Genki> nope, no Wii
21:14 <Genki> I hardly play video games :/
21:14 <Genki> anymore
21:16 <[NP]Tangent> no wii for me
21:16 <[NP]Tangent> I have my bzflag
21:16 <[NP]Tangent> and aa
21:16 <DrJoeTron> oh god
21:16 <DrJoeTron> bzflag
21:17 <[NP]Tangent> yeap
21:17 <[NP]Tangent> bzflag
21:17  * Genki had to google bxflag
21:17 <Genki> bzflag*
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21:20 <Genki> yellow Todd
21:20 <GodTodd> green
21:20 <GodTodd> :)
21:22 <Genki> yellow = hello
21:22 <Genki> or ello
21:22 <GodTodd> i know :P
21:22 <Genki> or lo
21:22 <Genki> lol
21:22 <Genki> is green your favorite color?
21:22 <GodTodd> was being a smart ass ;)
21:22 <GodTodd> nah...i tend toward black actually
21:23 <Genki> awesome
21:23 <Genki> just plain black or is a midnight blue good too?
21:23 <GodTodd> black is best...but usually as long as it is dark enough to pass :)
21:25 <Genki> I prefer a midnight blue to black, looks better on me
21:25 <GodTodd> ahhh
21:25 <Genki> but just crayon color wise I like black better lol
21:26 <GodTodd> heh
21:26 <Genki> Then again... silver just rocks my socks
21:27 <GodTodd> so, like, if silver hit on you it'd get in?
21:27 <GodTodd> ;)
21:27 <Genki> haha
21:27 <Genki> yes it would get in my socks
21:27 <Genki> :-D
21:27 <GodTodd> just your socks?
21:28 <GodTodd> you tease
21:28 <Genki> just my socks
21:28 <GodTodd> heh
21:28 <Genki> pants are a different story :P
21:28 <Genki> black might attempt it...
21:28 <Genki> ;)
21:30  * Genki won't bite... hard
21:30 <Genki> ok yeah I'm done lol
21:30 <Genki> shutting up now
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> I like black women, white shoes, and red meat
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> long pork
21:37 <Genki> good to know
21:37 <Genki> I like white guys, black shoes and uhh yeah red meat lol
21:39 <luke-jr_work> spidey: wtf u want
21:39 <Genki> or was I supposed to say brown meat? or green? green is the complimentary color of red
21:40 <Genki> luke-jr_work: I think he's playing defcon
21:41 <luke-jr_work> defcon sucks
21:41 <luke-jr_work> hang him
21:43 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: cs:s? :)
21:44 <DrJoeTron> wii :)
21:45 <Genki> CS? Counter Strike? I am totally out of the loop here
21:50 <spidey> luke-jr_work, ping
21:50 <luke-jr_work> ...
21:50 <spidey> spidey. => 	68.119.125.27
21:51 <luke-jr_work> you change it :p
21:51 <spidey> ?
21:51 <luke-jr_work> dreamhost has a control panel for it now
21:51 <spidey> o
21:51 <luke-jr_work> :p
21:53 <spidey> :D
21:59 <ghableska> spidey
22:07 <spidey> omg
22:07 <spidey> my dog's stoned
22:08 <spidey> he just drank a gallon of water 
22:08 <spidey> straight
22:08 <spidey> ghableska, what?
22:13 <Vanhayes> water gets you stoned now?\
22:14 <spidey> no
22:14 <spidey> the weed does...
22:14  * spidey got his dog high
22:19 <Vanhayes> cats are funnier, they just start jumping around and attacking things
22:19 <Vanhayes> even more funny if you give them catnip too, its like crack to them
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22:43 <Genki> Joe? guru? wrtlprnft? Lucifer?
22:43 <Genki> ...spidey?
22:45 <guru3> yessah?
22:45 <Genki> umm... nothing... just it's quiet in here, sorry to disturb you
22:45 <guru3> no no, not at all
22:46 <guru3> was just in the middle of one of my rare times playing on my server
22:46 <Genki> oh.. don't let me stop you then
22:46 <guru3> no im still playing
22:49 <DrJoeTron> stop him!
22:49 <DrJoeTron> bbl
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22:49 <guru3> lol @ joe
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23:31 <Genki> Hey Todd
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23:32  * spidey yawns
23:32 <Genki> good afternoon spidey
23:33 <spidey> man
23:33 <spidey> i am hungry
23:33 <ghableska> spidey: is your dog back to normal?
23:33 <spidey> i have these killer munchies
23:33 <spidey> AND WE HAVE NO CHIPS!
23:33 <spidey> dunno
23:33 <spidey> he went downstairs
23:33 <spidey> probably asleep lmao
23:34 <spidey> brb 
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Log from 2006-12-26:
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00:21 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:21 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 33.8°F (4:54 PM CST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa. 
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00:24 <Self_Destructo> howdy folks
00:24 <ghableska> hey
00:24 <Genki> hello
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01:09 <spidey> Self_Destructo, hey!
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> Self_Destructo: hi slacker
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> slacker slacker slacker slacker
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> slacker
01:11 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, hi fucker
01:11  * Lucifer_arma thwacks spidey
01:11 <spidey> fucker fucker fucker fucker
01:11 <spidey> fucker :D
01:11 <spidey> wtf's a thwacks?
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: hi ass-penetrator
01:11 <spidey> hells yea
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> ass-penetrator ass-penetrator ass-penetrator ass-penetrator
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> ass-penetrator
01:12 <spidey> i know you like it when i penetrate you...but not right now
01:13 <ghableska> whoa
01:13  * ghableska just got back 
01:13 <ghableska> and the first thing I see...
01:13 <ghableska> is spidey, ugh
01:31 <DrJoeTron> its a christmas miracle
01:33 <ghableska> heh
02:02 <Self_Destructo> haha Lucifer_arma
02:04 <Self_Destructo> I'm a slaker :p
02:16 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:16 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (6:54 PM CST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa. 
02:30 <Lucifer_arma> a slaker, eh?
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02:35 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer_arma slacker
02:35 <DrJoeTron> :D
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02:36 <Lucifer_arma> Truth, at last.
02:36 <Genki> You missed it Lucifer I needed you earlier
02:37 <Lucifer_arma> I don't do net-sex
02:37 <Genki> not in that way!
02:37 <Genki> I reserve that for Joe
02:37 <Genki> jk
02:38 <Genki> I needed advice and you weren't here to be the fatherly figure I needed
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02:44 <Lucifer_arma> I ran her off?  heh
02:48 <spidey> lol
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04:10  * Genki yawns
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04:21 <GodTodd> #weather 88310
04:21 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Tularosa, New Mexico is 34.5°F (8:17 PM MST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa. 
04:21 <Genki> hey Todd
04:22 <GodTodd> yo
04:22 <GodTodd> #cnn 88310
04:22 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Alamogordo, NM is 44.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Clear. Humidity: 36%. Wind: WNW at 6 mph (10 km/h).
04:22 <GodTodd> stupid feeds
04:22 <Genki> lol
04:22 <Genki> #weather 85747
04:22 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Fast Horse Ranch, Vail, Arizona is 46.8°F (8:20 PM MST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). 
04:22 <Genki> Fast Horse Ranch?
04:22 <Genki> okies then...
04:22 <GodTodd> heh
04:23 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:23 <Genki> Sounds like an Indian reserve
04:23 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 39.7°F (9:23 PM CST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa. 
04:23 <GodTodd> in arizona that wouldn't surprize me
04:23 <Genki> #cnn 85747
04:23 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Davis Monthan Afb, AZ is 55.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Wind: NW at 4 mph (6 km/h).
04:23 <GodTodd> #cnn 75023
04:23 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Plano, TX is 41.0°F. Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Wind: NW at 10 mph (16 km/h).
04:23 <Genki> lol having fun?
04:23 <GodTodd> just checking temps here and at home :)
04:23 <Genki> #weather 33014
04:23 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Opa Locka, Florida is 69.8°F (9:53 PM EST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 66.2°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa. 
04:24 <Genki> here and at home?
04:24 <GodTodd> yep
04:24 <Genki> you're not home?
04:24 <GodTodd> nope...visiting my mom and sister for xmas
04:24 <Genki> o
04:25 <Genki> Did you get anything for Christmas?
04:25 <GodTodd> a cd and some clothes
04:25 <GodTodd> heh
04:25 <Genki> What CD?
04:25 -!- Self_Destructo [n=drjames@h211.168.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
04:25 <GodTodd> bat out of hell III
04:25 <Genki> Nice
04:26 <Genki> funny t-shirts or just regular?
04:26 <GodTodd> regular
04:26 <Genki> aww no fun :P
04:26 <GodTodd> nope
04:26 <GodTodd> i did get my brother a shirt that said "Linux - for IQs greater than 98"
04:26 <GodTodd> :)
04:26 <Genki> haha
04:27 <Genki> That's why I have a Mac :-D
04:27 <GodTodd> :/
04:27 <Genki> PC*
04:27 <Genki> I'm on a Mac but have a PC lol
04:28 <GodTodd> heh
04:28 <Genki> anywho! what are some of your hobbies?
04:28 <GodTodd> besides porn and masturbation?
04:28 <Genki> yep
04:29 <Genki> although masturbation is the number one preventer of STD's
04:29 <GodTodd> when not busy with school, i like to write and program....and trying to learn guitar
04:29 <Genki> write?
04:29 <Genki> stories? poems?
04:30 <GodTodd> stories...once in a while i'll attempt novels
04:30 <Genki> wow! really?
04:30  * GodTodd plugs www.davefancella.com for examples of his writing.
04:30 <Genki> may I have the pleasure of reading some of your works sometime?
04:30 <GodTodd> heh
04:31 <GodTodd> i need to try and get a third installment of my serial story out this week :/
04:31 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-76-215-5-168.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron
04:31 <GodTodd> joe, you slut
04:31 <Genki> lol
04:31 <DrJoeTron> bish don't gimmie dat
04:31 <GodTodd> you say you a playa but you just a lowdown dirty whore
04:31 <GodTodd> fucker
04:31 -!- SD [n=drjames@h211.168.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
04:31 <GodTodd> :)
04:32 <Genki> I confuse you guys all the time, which one grew up with Lucifer?
04:32  * GodTodd did.
04:32 <Genki> ah ok
04:32 <Genki> thatmakes sense
04:32 <DrJoeTron> man, I aint neva said I is a playa
04:32 <GodTodd> well...depends on how you define "grew up" ;)
04:32 <Genki> Hey super mista magic
04:32 <Genki> haha
04:32 <DrJoeTron> yo 
04:33 <Genki> you missed it I was trying to get into Todd's pants
04:33  * GodTodd cries over the treatment joe gives him.
04:33 <DrJoeTron> pfft
04:33 <DrJoeTron> old news
04:33 <Genki> haha
04:33 <DrJoeTron> GodTodd, you're prettier when you're dressed in your own tears 
04:33 <Genki> I would try with you Joe but I know you're partial to Todd
04:33 <GodTodd> heh
04:34 <DrJoeTron> wow that was really creepy what I just said
04:34 <DrJoeTron> ike turner and I would make fast friends
04:34 <Lucifer_arma> I always thought the pearl necklace makes him the prettiest
04:34 <Genki> haha
04:34  * GodTodd blushes.
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> man, my youngest got the coolest toy ever
04:35 <Genki> what was it?
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> Darth Tater
04:35 <DrJoeTron> trade you that for my wii
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> star wars Mr. Potato Head (Potatoe for you republicans)
04:35 <GodTodd> i've seen that around....is it cool?
04:35 <GodTodd> :)
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> would you promise to mail the wii sometime before I finish school?
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> the Darth Tater is freaking awesome
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> the one he got has a darth vader getout, r2d2, and an imperial stormtrooper
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> plastic potatoes to match, of course
04:36 <GodTodd> heh
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> he sat there for like 2 hours taking everything out, putting it together, then meticulously putting it away
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> rinse and repeat
04:36 <GodTodd> 101
04:37  * Lucifer_arma might start hating christmas less now that his kids are old enough to get cool toys
04:37 <GodTodd> yeah...that's the cool part of christmas...kids getting toys cool enough they have to hide them from you :)
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> :)
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> my other son got a pirate battleship game
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, and something Genki would like.  An erector set!
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> (well, that was my wife buying on my word that erector sets are cool)
04:38 <GodTodd> erector sets rule
04:38 <Lucifer_arma> this time next year, he'll probably have a fully-functioning r2 unit built out of it
04:39 <Genki> All Genki wants for Christmas is a Hot Boy :-D
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> so what'd your kids get?  did you bring all your presents with you to that shithole, or are you having a second christmas at home?
04:39  * Lucifer_arma suggests Genki and ghableska (hi there!) hook up
04:39 <Genki> haha
04:40 <GodTodd> we're having two christmases
04:40  * Genki is more into guru3
04:40 <GodTodd> we brought the small shit here and the big shit they'll get next weekend
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> lemme guess, you'd like guru3 to get more into you?
04:40 <Genki> oh I just love shit
04:40 <Genki> nah not really
04:40  * GodTodd shits for genki.
04:40 <Genki> lol
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> bikes and shit?  Well, for the older kid anyway.  I guess the baby's too young for that.  :)
04:40 <Genki> I want the big shit
04:41  * Lucifer_arma shits on Genki
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> we aim to please, here
04:41 <GodTodd> they're each getting a bike from karen's parents...a trike for the youngest :)
04:41 <Genki> the big one Lucifer
04:41  * GodTodd shits the biggest, greasiest, smelliest shit ever on genki.
04:41 <Genki> Thx Todd
04:41 <GodTodd> :D
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> it's the water that does it
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> I can't compete with someone living off southern NM water
04:42 <GodTodd> haha
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> it's the saltiest fresh water in the country!
04:42 <Genki> haha, so now that I got the big shit, what do you guys want?
04:42 <GodTodd> yeah....i've noticed a distinct greasiness since i've been here
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> man, I get the hardcore shits when I go to NM
04:42 <Lucifer_arma> you to shut up?
04:42 <Genki> :O
04:43  * Genki shuts up
04:44 <GodTodd> wow...the whole channel shut up
04:44 <GodTodd> heh
04:45  * Lucifer_arma was considering doing the "I killed chat" dance
04:45 <GodTodd> hey...i patented that :P
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> sue me
04:45 <GodTodd> you have to give me royalties :)
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> do not
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> so, you were asking not too long ago, and I finally found out
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> my idiot brother's going for a BS in Math followed by an MS in engineering
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't specify what kind of engineering, don't be surprised if it trns out to be aerospace
04:46 <DrJoeTron> my idiot brother is a blue collar teamster :D
04:46 <GodTodd> i'll go on strike and get your isp to release your info to me so that i can sue you and all teh people who illegally hork my dance ;)
04:46 <DrJoeTron> bbl
04:46 <GodTodd> is he good in math?
04:46 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-76-215-5-168.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [">-;;,ccc3"]
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> he's so weird, these days he has to copy his younger brother.  That's like complete role reversal
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, he's pretty sharp in math
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> there's no question that he'll get the degrees, what with this neato wife of his cracking that whip of hers
04:47  * GodTodd refuses to copy anyone.
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> quit copying me!
04:47  * GodTodd changes his major to AE.
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> copycat copycat copycat!
04:48 <GodTodd> sue me
04:48 <GodTodd> heh
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> ur a l4m3r c0pyk4t!
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> #rules
04:48 <armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
04:48 <GodTodd> fsck u noob
04:48 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
04:48 -!- Lucifer_arma was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [User terminated!]
04:49 -!- dave_fancella [n=dave@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
04:49 <dave_fancella> oops
04:49 -!- dave_fancella [n=dave@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has left #armagetron ["Left.  See-ya!"]
04:49 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
04:49 <GodTodd> bahahahaha
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> wrong tab :)
04:49 <Genki> what happened to Lucifer?
04:49 <Genki> oops
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> duh
04:49  * Genki shuts up again
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> [Kick] You have kicked yourself from channel #armagetron (User terminated!).
04:50 <Genki> yeah well it's  in another language on my screen
04:50 <Genki> Lucifer_arma wurde gekicked durch Lucifer_arma (User terminated!)
04:50 <ghableska> #weather 50265
04:50 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 28.4°F (8:54 PM CST on December 25, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa. 
04:50 <Genki> I thought Todd kicked you somehow lol
04:51 <GodTodd> nah...i'm not 1337 in the channel ;)
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> who let the damn foreigners in here again?
04:52  * GodTodd whistles innocently.
04:53 -!- |Sticky| [n=Sticky@84.13.0.195] has joined #armagetron
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, that answers that question
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> I was starting to suspect Genki and Sticky were one and the same
04:53 <|Sticky|> realy why??
04:53 <Lucifer_arma> hang out for awhile, heh
04:53 <Genki> wha?
04:54 <Genki> why are we alike?
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> make her think you're male and she'll hit on you in a heartbeat
04:54 <Genki> lmao
04:54 <|Sticky|> what do you mean?
04:54 <Lucifer_arma> she's easier than a California coed
04:54 <Genki> shut up Lucifer I am not
04:54 <|Sticky|> and when exactly have i showed slutty behaviour??
04:54 <Genki> hahaha
04:55 <|Sticky|> and also im male
04:55 <Lucifer_arma> actually it was something else
04:55 <|Sticky|> what?
04:56 <Lucifer_arma> I noticed you using "her" as a neuter pronoun, which is usually an indication of the speaker being female
04:57 <Genki> Stickey or me?
04:57 <Genki> Sticky*
04:57 <|Sticky|> hehe yeah I like to do that in forums...mainly after reading books that have taken similar styles to grammer and I like the way that if its he/him/his thne your eye just goes straight over it byt if her/hers then it looks strange
04:58 <|Sticky|> and does make you aware of how gender biased things like online gaming forums are 
04:59 <Genki> You know I had to do an eassy on gender biased words, freaking 10 pages of crap
04:59 <|Sticky|> also picked it up after arguing religion with people alot I have got into the habit of refering to god as femail...realy throws the pro gob people off
04:59 <|Sticky|> god even
04:59 <Genki> haha
05:00 <Genki> good idea Sticky, mind if I borrow it?
05:00 <|Sticky|> please do
05:01 <|Sticky|> take it you must study some sort of literature at colleage right??
05:01 <Genki> not even in college >.<
05:01 <|Sticky|> ahh...school
05:01 <Genki> High School...
05:02 <Genki> I take it you're out of school then huh?
05:02 <|Sticky|> heh im at University yeah
05:03 <Genki> o.. I'm supposed to be quiet
05:03 <Genki> sorry Lucifer
05:03  * Genki shuts up again
05:03 <|Sticky|> why quiet??
05:04 <|Sticky|> wow lucifer runs a tight ship here...not allowing people to talk
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> so, the harmonica was invented in the 19th century, does that make it a modern instrument
05:05 <Genki> I rather like it
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> ?
05:05 <|Sticky|> i supose it does
05:06 <Genki> 19th century or the 19 hundreds?
05:06 <Genki> because the 19th century is really the 1800's and uhh yeah...
05:06  * Genki is shutting up again
05:06 <|Sticky|> god all that rubbish
05:07 <|Sticky|> Lucifer_arma: whats all this shutting up??
05:07 <Lucifer_arma> 19th century
05:08 <Lucifer_arma> she was annoying me with her blatant sexuality, so I took the first opportunity to tell her to shut up :)
05:08 <|Sticky|> no modern instrument beats the theremin tho
05:08 <|Sticky|> lol
05:08 <|Sticky|> we should now enforce gender tagging
05:09 -!- Genki is now known as Female
05:09 -!- |Sticky| is now known as |Sticky
05:09 <Female> how about that?
05:09 -!- |Sticky is now known as |Sticky{M}
05:09 -!- Female is now known as Genki
05:09 -!- |Sticky{M} [n=Sticky@84.13.0.195] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'"]
05:09 -!- |Sticky| [n=Sticky@84.13.0.195] has joined #armagetron
05:09 <|Sticky|> oops
05:09 <|Sticky|> random disconnect
05:10 <ghableska> o.0
05:11 <Genki> wow Lucifer, you're right
05:11 <Genki> I DO hit on most guys
05:11 <Genki> I sicken myself
05:12  * Genki is shutting up for good now... hopefully
05:12 <ghableska> heh
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05:14 <Commn> #onlineservers
05:14 <|Sticky|> does lastseen work for servers too??
05:14 <|Sticky|> #lastseen Durka
05:14 <armabot> |Sticky|: Durka has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 2 days 2 hours 30 minutes ago.
05:14 <|Sticky|> ahh
05:14 <Commn> use /nickserv info durka ;p
05:15 <Commn> or /whowas durka
05:15 <|Sticky|> naa that was just a test
05:15 <Commn> #armaservers
05:15 <armabot> Commn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (7 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (4 players) || Strawberry Fields (4 players) || Unnamed Server (1 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (1 players) || Norm's Place (1 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server - Low Rubber (1 players) || Tigers Network Speed Blast (1 players) || The Dip Bowl (0 (1 more message)
05:15 <Commn> yuck
05:15 <|Sticky|> #lastseen cith
05:15 <|Sticky|> #lastseen sith
05:16 <Commn> #serverinfo fortress and sumo
05:16  * spidey YAWNS
05:16  * spidey stabs Commn
05:16 <Genki> #last seen ˚˚˚3dot˚˚˚
05:16 <armabot> Genki: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit returns (1 more message)
05:16 <armabot> |Sticky|: timed out
05:16 <spidey> #lastseen dot
05:16 <|Sticky|> #lastseen cait
05:16 <Genki> #lastseen 3dot
05:17 <|Sticky|> heh armabot melts
05:17 <spidey> lol
05:17 <Genki> #lastseen ˚˚˚3dot˚˚˚
05:17 <Genki> :/
05:17 <armabot> |Sticky|: sithy has last been seen on ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 10 days 5 hours 5 minutes ago.
05:17 <armabot> Commn: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fortress and sumo” at the moment, sorry.
05:17 <armabot> spidey: °¯°3dot °'° seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
05:17 <ghableska> #time
05:17 <armabot> ghableska: 05:19 AM, December 26, 2006
05:17 <armabot> |Sticky|: caitlinseymour has last been seen on (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] 3 days 10 hours 59 minutes ago.
05:17 <armabot> Genki: °¯°3dot °'° seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
05:17 <armabot> Genki: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_general_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation 'like'
05:18 <Genki> 3dot...
05:18 <Genki> *sighs*
05:18 <|Sticky|> #lastseen your mum
05:18 <ghableska> #lastseen your mom
05:18 <|Sticky|> heh
05:18 <|Sticky|> i saw her last night
05:18 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom is a boy
05:18 <Commn> #lastseen kamakazi
05:19 <ghableska> the real mom usually plays under aliases, doesn't he?
05:19 <armabot> |Sticky|: timed out
05:19 <|Sticky|> you played with your_mum???
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> don't know.  He goes in phases, sometimes using his real name, sometimes not
05:19 <armabot> ghableska: your mom has last been seen on Shrunkland in 2.8.2 4 days 4 hours 37 minutes ago.
05:19 <armabot> Commn: Kamakazi has last been seen on Fortress & Sumo {Rotating config files} 1 minutes ago.
05:19 <Lucifer_arma> #seen Your_ass
05:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Your_ass was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 21 hours, 54 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <Your_ass> FUCK FUCK SHIT SHIT OH WHAT A RELIEF IT IS
05:19 <ghableska> #seen Wuttle
05:19 <armabot> ghableska: Wuttle was last seen in #armagetron 10 hours, 15 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <Wuttle> FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
05:20 <ghableska> heh
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> who was Wuttle?
05:20 <ghableska> me :)
05:20 <spidey> her
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> oh, heh
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> I thought ghableska (hi there!) was a boy
05:20 <ghableska> *gasp*
05:20 <|Sticky|> guess there is anouther player that uses the your_mum name...its the nick thats on my work computer
05:20 <ghableska> the audacity!
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> no, I really did.  mostly because you told someone in fortress a long time ago you were a boy
05:21 <ghableska> yeah, I am. :P
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> and I was there, and gender is info I tend to file away
05:21 <ghableska> I'm sure it goes towards something useful
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> means I usually get my pronouns right and don't piss people off :)
05:21 <Commn> damn
05:21 <Commn> i want to learn the cross
05:21 <ghableska> hehe
05:21 <Commn> its hard to do
05:21 <|Sticky|> hes compiling a mental gender taxonomy of arma players
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> the cross?
05:22 <ghableska> #seen fcuk
05:22 <armabot> ghableska: I have not seen fcuk.
05:22  * Lucifer_arma has found that on contest he usually knows more player genders than his challengers
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> of course, I also haven't played in months, so my info is no longer up to date
05:22 <Commn> what ? people change genders? :p
05:22 <|Sticky|> the cross is easy
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> Commn: what's the cross?  Lacrosse?
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> new players come, old players leave
05:23 <Commn> no a cross in fort
05:23 <Commn> this one guy does it
05:23 <|Sticky|> ist just LRRLRRLRRL
05:23 <Commn> i forgot his name
05:23 <|Sticky|> so its easy to do as a rythem
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> I want to learn my new harmonica
05:23 <Commn> ah thats easier
05:23 <Commn> but still my cross sucks :d
05:23 <|Sticky|> take up drumming and you get the rythem
05:24 <Commn> ah two hands is easier
05:24 <|Sticky|> i want to learn to juggle
05:25  * ghableska can juggle
05:25 <ghableska> thanks to a PE unit in juggling O_o
05:25  * |Sticky| can throw 3 balls in the air and watch them drop
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> drumming is an immensely useful skill for arma
05:25 <|Sticky|> you drum too??
05:25 <ghableska> well, it was actually "skills related fitness" but all we did was juggle
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> not recently, I pawned my drums years ago and haven't replaced them :(
05:26 <|Sticky|> heh
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> dude, I can play lots of instruments :)
05:26 <ghableska> clarinet, right?
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> just because I usually play guitar and bass doesn't mean I can't do anything else
05:26 <|Sticky|> i havent drumed in a while either
05:26 <Commn> omg cross is hard to do perfect ;\
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> and right now I want to print out some of this harmonica stuff I've found so I can learn to play that
05:26 <|Sticky|> try double binding the RR
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> see, I particularly enjoy getting more unusual instruments and playing them.  My parents sent me a fife a long time ago that I was getting pretty good at when it disappeared.
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> I was really upset when I lost it, it was handmade in Fredricksburg, VA
05:27 <|Sticky|> i tried harmonica a long time ago
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> I used to have a harmonica, when I was a kid.  Never really got good with it, but I loved it.
05:27 <|Sticky|> naa theremin
05:28 <|Sticky|> thats where its at
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> my kids all wanted one for christmas, and I thought it was a good instrument for a kid to learn.  It's something you can take everywhere :)
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> wth's a theremin?
05:28 <|Sticky|> OMG YOU DONT KNOW!!!
05:28 <|Sticky|> best instrument ever
05:28 <ghableska> "one of the earliest fully electronic musical instruments"
05:29 <ghableska> oh, I think I remember now
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> wow, that does look interesting
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.thereminworld.com/article.asp?id=17
05:29 <ghableska> you just wave your hands
05:29 <Genki> doesn't it kinda look like a box on a stand...
05:29 <|Sticky|> its like a radio areial that as you move your hands around it makes squealie type noises at different pitches and volumes
05:29 <Genki> cool
05:29 <|Sticky|> ever watch scrubs??
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> can't say that I have
05:29 <Genki> #lastseen Genki
05:29 <|Sticky|> the start music is a therimin
05:30 <armabot> Genki: CTT|Genki has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 4 days 3 hours 29 minutes ago.
05:30 <|Sticky|> i think Beach Boys - Good vibrations used one too
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> sure that wasn't just Bobby whatshisface singing?
05:30 <|Sticky|> heh
05:30 <Genki> night everyone!
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> I think it would be cool to get to where I can play harmonica and bass at the same time :)
05:31 <ghableska> night
05:31 <Genki> #lastseen 3dot
05:31 <armabot> Genki: °¯°3dot °'° seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress right now.
05:31 <Genki> yep, night night ^_^
05:31 <Genki> Merry Christmas
05:31 <|Sticky|> ill get you a one man band kit for next xmas Lucifer_arma
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05:31 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:31 <ghableska> :)
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> I used to play my guitar and the pedal for my bass drum together
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> that was a lot of fun
05:35  * GodTodd has played a theremin.
05:35 <|Sticky|> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wph6wGwPn9M
05:35 <|Sticky|> cool
05:35 <GodTodd> they have one set up at the dallas museum of nature and science
05:35 <|Sticky|> i think star trek may have used one on the theme tune
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> send me one, I"ll play it :)
05:36  * Lucifer_arma genuinely enjoys playing weird instruments and usually gets bored with more traditional ones
05:36  * Lucifer_arma has literally lost an entire orchestra of weird instruments :/
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> had a hammered dulcimer for awhile
05:37 <GodTodd> cool :)
05:37 <|Sticky|> Lucifer_arma: take a look at that youtube thing...its a weird instrument
05:38 <|Sticky|> sounds realy like someone singing
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> you remember that hammered dulcimer guy that plays all the festivals and shit around the tulie basin?
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> |Sticky|: I've had problems playing youtube videos :/
05:38 <|Sticky|> ahh
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> so I normally don't look at them.
05:39 <GodTodd> yeah
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> my dad bought a few from that guy and I wound up taking one with me
05:40 <GodTodd> ahhh
05:43 <|Sticky|> oh yeah i did want one of these:  http://www.blueman.com/multimedia/video/index.php?vid=toyquest&q=lo 
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05:47 <Arma23> #nick Durka
05:47 <armabot> Arma23: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
05:47 <Arma23> oops i ment /nick XD
05:47 -!- Arma23 is now known as Durka
05:48 <Durka> #hello
05:48 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Rudin's Law: || If there is a wrong way to do something, most people will || do it every time. || Rudin's Second Law: || In a crisis that forces a choice to be made among alternative || courses of action, people tend to choose the worst possible || course.
05:49 <|Sticky|> hay
05:49 <Durka> hi sticky
05:54  * Durka waits for manta to get his ass on here
05:54 <|Sticky|> planning an event??
06:02 <|Sticky|> #night
06:02 <armabot> Good night |Sticky|!
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06:07 <Manta> working on adding ctf and it's back to every round :p
06:08 <Durka> no!
06:08 <Durka> every round is gay
06:08 <Durka> and its weird
06:08 <Durka> this is what happened
06:08 <Durka> i went thru 2 matches
06:08 <Durka> 1 match:
06:08 <Durka> 1st round: fort
06:08 <Durka> 2-10: sumo
06:08 <Durka> 2 match:
06:08 <Durka> 1st round sumo
06:08 <Durka> 2-10 fort
06:08 <Durka> its fucked
06:09 <Manta> yah
06:09 <Durka> also change the round_center_message in the fortress.cfg and sumo.cfg
06:09 <Durka> get rid of the ¡ and !
06:09 <Manta> I'm rewriting the whole script from scratch
06:10 <Durka> make a ctf.cfg file
06:10 <Durka> good idea
06:10 <Manta> ok I'll remove those
06:10 <Durka> plze make it rotate each match
06:10 <Durka> it will be tight
06:10 <Manta> tight?
06:11 <ghableska> ...
06:11 <Manta> hey ghableska
06:12 <ghableska> hi Manta
06:15 <ghableska> I'm going to bed, 'night
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06:16 <Durka> tight = cool
06:16 <Durka> lol
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06:17 <Durka> #hello Self_Destructo
06:17 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: BOFH Excuse #387: || Your computer's union contract is set to expire at midnight.
06:17 <Durka> wait that says hi to me °°ps lol
06:17 <Durka> hi sd
06:17  * Manta pulls out his dictionary
06:18  * Durka steals it from manta
06:18 <Self_Destructo> hi durka
06:20  * Manta will forever be hopelessly lost on irc g3Ek 5pe4k
06:20 <Durka> more like 1337 5|°34|<
06:21 <Manta> ya ya, what ever
06:21 <Durka> hows everyone tonight
06:21  * Durka pokes spidey (get the fuck up!)
06:22 <Self_Destructo> good
06:22 <Durka> good to hear :)
06:22 <Self_Destructo> you guys ought to get your game hooked up with xfire
06:22 <Durka> everyone have a merry christmas?
06:22 <Self_Destructo> yeah
06:22 <Self_Destructo> well, maybe that's something I can arrange....
06:26 <Durka> arrange what...:P
06:26 <Durka> :p *
06:28  * Durka ï§ öß§§ê§§êÐ wïth thï§ thïñgêê öñ hï§ §ïtê
06:28 <Manta> is the ctf maze to complex now?
06:30  * Durka hå§ñ't ßêêñ ïñ thêrê §ïñ¢ê ýöµ ¢håñgêÐ ït
06:30 <Manta> ok game works now
06:30 <Manta> changes at round one
06:31 <Manta> what a variable type mismatch,   still learning these linux scripting languages
06:33 <Durka> fort then sumo then ctf
06:33 <Durka> is that how it is?
06:33 <Manta> no just fort and sumo
06:33 <Durka> and whats the name of the server
06:33 <Durka> can u add ctf in?
06:33 <Durka> or just not yet
06:33 <Manta> I can't find where the extra charictors are coming from
06:34 <Manta> were thy only in the sumo.cfg and fortress.cfg you sent?
06:34 <Durka> its the upside down ! ( ¡ )
06:34 <Manta> the name is still what ever you had
06:34 <Durka> the server doesnt recognize it
06:35 <Durka> just get rid of both ¡ & !
06:35 <Manta> I did :p
06:36 <Durka> lol thnx
06:36 <Manta> I think it's the directories you gave me
06:36 <Durka> are u gonna put ctf in?
06:36 <Manta> it's giving me a lot of truble
06:36 <Manta> I might, you think people would want it?
06:43 <Durka> definately
06:43 <Durka> well...it will attract more ppl
06:43 <Durka> ya
06:43 <Durka> maybe we could eventually do like
06:44 <Durka> sumo -> fort -> ctf -> team sumo -> 4 team fort -> wild fort -> labyrinth ctf -> incam -> race to winzone -> high rubber -> low rubber
06:44 <Durka> u get it though
06:45 <Durka> rotate like 5 game types
06:45 <Durka> each match
06:45 <Durka> i think sumo fort & ctf will be a great start
06:46 <Manta> that sounds like  a lot of maintenance
06:46 <Durka> forget what i said above
06:47 <Durka> just these 3 :p
06:47 <Durka> we'll see how it goes
06:47 <Manta> I can't get  your ascii charictors OUT!!!!!!! what crazy carictor codes you use
06:47 <Self_Destructo> durka
06:47 <Manta> I'm going to have to get a hex editor to strip them out
06:48 <Self_Destructo> i wrote a xml file that hopefully will be one day impletmented (and has partly) that can customize matches to the fullest
06:48 <Self_Destructo> including changing game "modes"
06:48 <Self_Destructo> or rather "types"
06:49 <Durka> can i see it?
06:49 <Durka> sounds like a good idea
06:49 <Durka> its not ascii
06:49 <Durka> most are ansi ( http://durka.freehostia.com/cooltext.php )
06:50 <Durka> Attention all arma people: where the fuck did iceman go?
06:54 <Self_Destructo> Durka: I got to find it again
06:54 <Self_Destructo> are you going to be on tomorrow if I don't find it tonight?
06:55 <Lucifer_arma> why are you trying so hard to find iceman?
06:55 <Durka> because
06:55 <Durka> ...
06:56 <Self_Destructo> ok, I'm hoping I haven't lost it here....
06:56 <Durka> i want to ask him if I can use his bike/tail color code
06:56 <Durka> he wrote it and I don't want to use it without his permission
06:56 <Durka> sd: you can a) attach it in a PM to me or b) email it to me
06:56 <Lucifer_arma> write new code?  it can't be that hard...
06:57 <Lucifer_arma> why can't I find any good harmonica music?
06:58 <Durka> this code luci -> http://iceman.armagetron.co.uk/bikeandtail.html
06:58 <Self_Destructo> this is just great
07:01 <Durka> what =/
07:02 <Self_Destructo> i think I may have lost it
07:02 <Self_Destructo> or actually deleted one
07:02 <Durka> ouch
07:02 <Durka> email me it if you find it -> durkadurkamj@gmail.com
07:02 <Self_Destructo> no biggy, I could recreate it in a hour or so
07:02 <Self_Destructo> ok
07:02 <Durka> lol thnx
07:03 <Self_Destructo> lol, recreate? haha
07:03 <Self_Destructo> rewrite :p
07:04 <Durka> lol :D
07:04 <Self_Destructo> ok, I'm going to bed now (I think)
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07:05 <SD_away> gn
07:05 <Durka> lol
07:05 <Durka> nice name
07:06 <Durka> Manta: is the server up?
07:06 <Durka> and working that is
07:08 <Manta> it useing the name you gave it
07:08 <Durka> ok im going there
07:08 <Durka> come too
07:09 <Durka> thnx
07:09 <Manta> ok was able to extract the controle codes with a hex editor
07:09 <Manta> please don't send me any of those again
07:10 <SD_away> durka
07:10 <Durka> ya
07:10 <SD_away> i think it's in svn somewhere
07:11 <SD_away> it would be titled rotator-version stuff.blah
07:11 <SD_away> you get it
07:13 <Durka> u sent it?
07:14 <SD_away> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/resource/proto/AATeam/
07:14 <SD_away> found it
07:14 <SD_away> it's the aarotate file
07:15 <Durka> o thnx
07:15 <SD_away> np
07:15 <SD_away> now i go to bed ;)
07:15 <SD_away> i can sleep now
07:15 <SD_away> :p
07:19 <Durka> which one is it?
07:21 <Durka> o nvr mind :p
07:21 <SD_away> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/resource/proto/AATeam/SD-0.0.1.aarotate.xml
07:21 <SD_away> lol
07:22 <SD_away> I'll explain it later
07:22 <SD_away> because it is kinda confusing if you don't know the intetions, or may have picked up on it already
07:23 <Durka> i get it
07:23 <Durka> nice :)
07:23 <Durka> ok i need to fix this thing with manta
07:34 <Durka> manta: u there?
07:38 <Durka> check ur PMs on my site
07:38 <Durka> i sent u the files
07:38 <Manta> ok
07:42 <Durka> get them?
07:48 <Durka> ¬_¬
07:48 <Lucifer_arma> a;sldkjf
07:49 <spidey> sdfkojsdfj
07:49 <spidey> Durka, touch me again and die
07:49  * Durka doesn't poke spidey
07:49 <Durka> hi luci
07:50 <Durka> we meet again ^.^
07:50 <Manta> I'll be happy to give you his IP only thing I ask spidey is that  you send me a log scrip of what you did to him
07:51 <spidey> huh?
07:51 <Durka> roflamo manta
07:51 <Durka> roflmao*
07:52 <spidey> ok
07:52 <spidey> i've got munchies again
07:52 <spidey> brb
07:54 <Durka> lol
07:57 <Manta> ok see if it works
07:58 <Durka> k
07:59 <Manta> would something in normal be setting people to individual teams? and then they get droped out of the first round? 
08:00 <Durka> look ingame
08:05 <Manta> have you tested these settings before?
08:06 <Durka> oops im coming back
08:06 <Durka> yes i tested the settings on an 0.3 server and they worked flawlessly
08:06 <Durka> the transition from sumo to fort worked
08:06 <Durka> there were 5 ppl and they got put on 2 team (2 and 3 ppl)
08:07 <Manta> good
08:07 <Durka> u sure u cant upgrade 1 server to 0.3
08:07 <Durka> lol nvr mind that wont work
08:07 <Manta> not if we want ctf
08:07 <Durka> they will all have to upgrade?
08:07 <Durka> ok ya
08:07 <Durka> umm.....
08:07 <Durka> ...
08:07 <Durka> ...
08:07 <Durka> i got an idea
08:07 <Durka> ok so u have a dedicated server in az and tx
08:08 <Durka> which one runs the ctf ones?
08:08 <Manta> let me set the round to 4 make the changes faster
08:08 <Manta> one on each
08:08 <Durka> ok tell me where everything is
08:09 <Durka> whats running on az one
08:09 <Manta> just about everything
08:09 <Durka> lol whats running on tx one
08:09 <Durka> no dude
08:10 <Durka> isnt the ctf ones on the same server
08:10 <Durka> both
08:10 <[NP]Tangent> dirka dirka
08:10 <Durka> umm...hello? (/me doesn't remember u)
08:11 <Manta> CTF is in TX lab is in AZ since I have to serve the maps
08:11 <Durka> ok i see whats up
08:11 <Durka> can u do this:
08:11 <Durka> 1. get rid of multi team fort (pointless)
08:11 <Durka> make other servers run better
08:11 <Durka> which server runs the best
08:12 <Durka> az or tx
08:12 <Manta> I love muliti team
08:12 <Durka> put both CTFs on the same server
08:12 <Durka> then upgrade the other to 0.3
08:12 <Durka> so on az one put like: ctf, ctf laby, fortress
08:12 <Manta> I can't run ctf with 0.2.8
08:12 <Durka> then on tx put: sumo, wild fort, f/s
08:13 <Manta> do we want to be stuck with just sumo and fort?
08:13 <Durka> what do u run it on now?
08:13 <Durka> 0.2.8 right?
08:13 <Manta> yes
08:13 <Manta> but if I upgrade this server we can't have ctf as part of the rotation
08:14 <Durka> read what u wrote: "I can't run ctf with 0.2.8"
08:14 <Durka> but u can
08:14 <Durka> u mean 0.3 right?
08:14 <Manta> right, sry
08:14 <Durka> lol ok so this is easier
08:15 <Durka> swap multi fort with CTF
08:15 <Durka> making both CTF servers on the texas server
08:15 <Manta> but we are still stuck
08:15 <Durka> how?
08:15 <Manta> no ctf
08:15 <Durka> omg manta!!!
08:16 <Durka> ur not following me are u?
08:16 <Durka> this is what i see:
08:16 <Manta> no
08:16 <Manta> do we want to forgo having ctf then?
08:16 <Durka> Arizona server: Fortress, Sumo, Labyrinth CTF, Wild Fortress
08:17 <Durka> Texas server: Multi Team Fortress, CTF
08:17 <Durka> so look at that
08:17 <Durka> swap multi team with lab ctf
08:17 <Durka> moving both ctfs to one server
08:17 <Durka> right?
08:18 <Durka> so then its
08:18 <Durka> Texas server: both CTFs
08:18 <Durka> Arizona server: Fortress, Sumo, Wild Fort, Multi Team
08:19 <Durka> now u can get rid of multi team if u want
08:19 <Durka> but basically then upgrade the arizona server (the one without the CTFs) to 0.3
08:19 <Durka> U WILL STILL HAVE CTF
08:19 <Durka> follow me now?
08:19 <Manta> yes
08:19 <Manta> hmmm
08:20 <Durka> lol
08:21 <Durka> are u up to doing that?
08:21 <Durka> will u think 2 CTFs on one server be to crazy
08:21 <Durka> but that texas one is the one with unlimited bandwidth right?
08:22 <Durka> shouldnt be a problme?
08:22 <Manta> maybe, only bully about .3% cpu most of the time
08:22 <Durka> problem*
08:22 <Durka> lol is that .3?
08:22 <Durka> ( point three )
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08:23 <Durka> hi todd
08:25  * Durka waits for a "Hi Durka!" back -.-
08:26 <Manta> this is slow over dialup .......
08:28 <Durka> lmao
08:29 <Durka> nice bots in the server
08:29 <Manta> it has to be the order that the server interpits commands
08:29 <Manta> which one?
08:29 <Durka> u were just there
08:29 <Manta> ok
08:32 <Durka> so hows this gonna work
08:33 <Manta> not sure yet
08:33 <Durka> lol
08:34 <Durka> im not forcing u into anything :p
08:34 <Manta> switch to sumo working ok?
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08:36 <Durka> hi again
08:36 <Durka> idk i left the server
08:36 <Durka> lets go in
08:39 <Durka> lmao look what legit wanted me to make (and I did) -> http://durka.freehostia.com/viewforum.php?f=60
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08:40 <Manta> only I can figure is that since it joins the players on the second round it has to be some settings are not being prossesed
08:41 <Durka> hi again
08:42 <Manta> ah a new clan?
08:42 <Durka> idk lol he wanted it
08:42 <Durka> its great this unlimited subforums thing i have
08:42 <Manta> nice tag lines you gave it
08:42 <Durka> give ppl what they want while not cluttering the home page
08:42 <Durka> lol i gave it the same as {wT} i think
08:42 <Durka> lol
08:42 <Durka> post more stuff in ur section
08:43 <Durka> its a biggy
08:43 <Durka> i think i can get belenus to host the fortress/sumo server for me
08:43 <Durka> his server runs 0.3
08:43 <Durka> i just can never find him
08:44 <Manta> that might be best
08:44 <Durka> ya
08:44 <Durka> and its in germany so more ppl will use it
08:44 <Manta> I'm running a lot already
08:44 <Durka> ya
08:44 <Durka> wanna take down the fortress/sumo server and make it into DDL teams? :p
08:45 <Manta> what teams?
08:45 <Durka> durka durka land teams
08:45 <Durka> my server but with teams
08:45 <Manta> ~wierd~ people play on DDL
08:45 <Durka> seems pointless though
08:45 <Durka> fuck that
08:45 <Durka> lol ya
08:46 <Durka> but some are cool like genjen
08:47 <Manta> I'm thinking about a new game mode, for .3 that can't be done in 2.8
08:47 <Durka> like what
08:47 <Manta> I made some of your sugestions to laby see what you think
08:48 <Manta> onslaught mode from unreal tounement
08:48 <Durka> k thnx
08:48 <Manta> one person didn't like them
08:48 <Manta> just see whats the most fun to play
08:50 <Durka> ya
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08:50 <Manta> ok I'm done with the sumo/fort for tonight
08:51 <Manta> headach
08:51 <Manta> I'm in laby ctf, see what you think
08:51 <Durka> k one sec
08:51 <Durka> ya forget the fort/sumo
08:51 <Durka> thnx for your help though
08:52 <Manta> well whish it would have worked better
08:52 <Durka> its ok thnx though
08:56 <Durka> bye manta
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08:57 <Manta> ok, how about the flag position?
08:57 <Manta> tbye
09:03  * spidey yawns
09:13 <GodTodd> spidey sux0rz
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10:33 <DrJoeTron> I like the wii :D
10:43 <GodTodd> were you taking a wii, joe?
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11:29 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6542 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/cockpit/cCockpit.cpp: Disabling GL_DEPTH_TEST when rendering the cockpit so the gauges don't get hidden by rim walls.
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16:15  * Genki yawns
16:16 <Genki> good mornin'
16:16 <Genki> afternoon, evenin'
16:20 <deja_vu> hello Genki 
16:21 <Genki> hello ^_^
16:23 <wrtlprnft> hi
16:24 <Genki> hey!
16:24 <deja_vu> hi mr. wrtlprnft :)
16:24 <wrtlprnft> hi mr deja_vu :D
16:25 <Genki> so I don't get a title?
16:25 <deja_vu> exactly
16:26 <Genki> I feel left out
16:26 <deja_vu> do you want one?
16:26 <Genki> as long as it's the right one ^_^
16:26 <deja_vu> hello the right one Genki o.o
16:27 <Genki> haha
16:27 <Genki> do you still want to be mr?
16:27  * wrtlprnft doesn't want to be anything
16:28 <Genki> okies
16:28 <Genki> but you're older then me I have to show some respect
16:29  * wrtlprnft doesn't think he's much older than Genki 
16:29 <Genki> how old are you wrtlprnft?
16:30  * Genki thinks wrtlprnft should stop talking in third person
16:31 <wrtlprnft> heh
16:31 <wrtlprnft> sec, calculating
16:31 <Genki> ?
16:32 <Genki> oh nvm I thought you said see
16:33 <wrtlprnft> 17 years 180 days 17 hours
16:34 <Genki> wow a year would have been fine
16:34 <Genki> I prefer months to days though
16:35 <wrtlprnft> pfft
16:35 <wrtlprnft> months vary in length for no real reason :P
16:38 <Genki> 15 years 249 days 8 hours
16:38 <Genki> :-D
16:38 <wrtlprnft> :P
16:38 <wrtlprnft> see? not a lot
16:38 <wrtlprnft> not even 2 years
16:38 <Genki> almost two :P
16:39 <wrtlprnft> pessimist!
16:39 <wrtlprnft> the glass is half full, NEVER half empty
16:39 <Genki> I just say the glass is merely 2 times bigger then it needs to be :-D
16:39 <wrtlprnft> hehe
16:40 <Genki> or any water in the glass is potential profit :-D
16:41 <wrtlprnft> the glass consists to about 50% H20, 40% N2 and 10% O2
16:41 <wrtlprnft> volume %, that is
16:41 <wrtlprnft> *consists of
16:42 <Genki> Haha
16:42 <Genki> ok school is over for another 2 weeks, thinking takes too long
16:42 <wrtlprnft> lol
16:42 <Genki> As much as I would enjoy talking about a glass HALF FULL with water I can't think
16:43 <Genki> well I can it just takes awhile
16:44 <wrtlprnft> who cares about glasses anyways?
16:44 <Genki> depends, is there water in it? :P
16:45  * wrtlprnft notes that he can change the amount of water in a glass quite easily
16:45 <Genki> haha
16:45  * Genki wonders if he can make the water QUALITY better easily
16:46 <wrtlprnft> the water we have is excellent :P
16:46 <Genki> that doesn't answer my question :P
16:47 <wrtlprnft> well, if i get a glass with poor quality water i just empty it and put better water into it
16:47 <Genki> well what if you start with your excellent water, can you make it better?
16:47 <wrtlprnft> not really
16:48 <wrtlprnft> if i start with a full glass of water i can't make it any fuller either :P
16:48  * Genki notes that this is true
16:50 <Genki> so what does your screen name mean?
16:50 <Genki> it sounds interesting when you say it ^_^
16:50 <Genki> well when I say it
16:51 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen wrtlprnft 
16:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft |mbc| has last been seen on Race Around The Track (beta) 0 days 2 hours 25 minutes ago.
16:51 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't really mean anything
16:51 <wrtlprnft> gah
16:51 <wrtlprnft> #lastseen wrtlprnft 
16:51 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft |mbc| seems to be on Fortress Café right now.
16:52 <wrtlprnft> :)
16:52 <Genki> lol you sure?
16:52 <Genki> #lastseen Genki
16:52 <armabot> Genki: CTT|Genki has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 4 days 14 hours 52 minutes ago.
16:53 <Genki> wow
16:53 <Genki> #lastseen 3dot
16:53 <armabot> Genki: °°¯ 3dot °&°	Ò^ has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 10 hours 44 minutes ago.
16:55 <Genki> #weather 95747
16:55 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in PASCO scientific, Roseville, California is 51.6°F (7:50 AM PST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005.0 hPa. 
16:55 <Genki> #weather 84747
16:55 <Genki> #weather 84747
16:55 <Genki> #weather 84747
16:55 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Torrey, Utah is 25.9°F (8:55 AM MST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 23.39 in 792.0 hPa (Falling). 
16:55 <Genki> gah
16:55 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Torrey, Utah is 25.9°F (8:55 AM MST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 23.39 in 792.0 hPa (Falling). 
16:55 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Torrey, Utah is 25.9°F (8:55 AM MST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 23.39 in 792.0 hPa (Falling). 
16:55 <Genki> I am such a spammer lol
16:56 <Genki> #cnn 85747
16:56 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Davis Monthan Afb, AZ is 43.0°F. Conditions: Partly Sunny. Humidity: 23%. Wind: SSE at 9 mph (14 km/h).
16:57 <Genki> #server wild
16:58 <Genki> gah I don't remember
16:58 <Genki> #serverstats wild
17:06 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails wild
17:06 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (13/14): 1 reyalP, alf ñ	°¯Ashitak, Ch3 W4s A J3D1, CT|Ðq.Fu×|, DevilMillus ITA, Korpiklaani, niro, Nobody, Podnoktyam's, roy, Sk@t3R, TSoT_MuRi, |HTF|HuNtEr
17:07 <Genki> thx wrtlprnft
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17:33 <wrtlprnft> yw
17:34 <Genki> #lastseen wrtlprnft
17:34 <armabot> Genki: wrtlprnft |mbc| has last been seen on Sumo Bar 3 minutes ago.
18:06 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12.240.54.90] has joined #Armagetron
18:06 <ghableska> hello
18:07 <Genki> hey ghableska
18:07 <ghableska> hi Genki
18:07 <ghableska> #weather 50265
18:08 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 30.2°F (10:54 AM CST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa. 
18:16  * ghableska yawns
18:16  * Genki yawns
18:21  * wrtlprnft yawns
18:22  * Genki smiles
18:22 <ghableska> heh
18:32 <Genki> ;O
18:32 <Genki> :o
18:32 <Genki> where is everyone?
18:32 <Genki> where is everyone?
18:33 <ghableska> here.
18:36  * Genki needs a life
18:40 <guru3> in the spirit of the holidays from last year... http://electricpotential.net/temp/luciferandhat.png
18:41 <Genki> hahaha
18:46 <ghableska> :)
18:46 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma was a grinch this year ;)
18:46 <Genki> just this year?
18:47 <wrtlprnft> o_O
18:47 <Genki> http://upload4.postimage.org/1795394/photo_hosting.html - I'm an emo kid
18:49 <ghableska> O_o
18:50 <Genki> o.O
18:51 <wrtlprnft> o_O_o
18:51 <Genki> O.o.O
18:51 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: you mutated?
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18:54 -!- Arma56 is now known as Durka
18:55 <Durka> #hello
18:55 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Heller's Law: || The first myth of management is that it exists. || Johnson's Corollary: || Nobody really knows what is going on anywhere within the || organization.
18:55 <Genki> O.O hey durka
18:55 <Genki> what are you doing here?
18:56 <Durka> genki :p
18:56 <Durka> i decided to come here since I gave up trying to play]
18:56 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: yeah .:-P
18:56 <Durka> 1000 ping everywhere
18:56  * Durka pokes ghab
18:56 <Durka> wrtlpwnd :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
18:56 <wrtlprnft> hi there
18:56 <ghableska> hi Durka
18:56 <Genki> <3333333333333333
18:57 <ghableska> who mentioned wrtlpwnd in the first place?
18:57 <wrtlprnft> canada
18:57 <Durka> canada
18:57 <ghableska> oh yeah
18:57 <Durka> lmao
18:57 <ghableska> hard to forget him >_<
18:57 <Durka> wrtlprnft: ever figure out what to do with the wrtl tourney/ladle fort
18:57 <Durka> server
18:58 <wrtlprnft> uh, it's down i think
18:58 <Durka> really
18:58 <Durka> =_=
18:58 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails sumo bar
18:58 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Sumo Bar: No online players.
18:58 <wrtlprnft> but i can't play right now
18:59 <Durka> thats ur server?
18:59 <Durka> nice
18:59 <wrtlprnft> yeah
18:59 <ghableska> #armaservers
18:59 <wrtlprnft> my attempt at being creative
18:59 <ghableska> heh
18:59 <armabot> ghableska: (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (9 players) || Strawberry Fields (9 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (8 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (7 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (6 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (5 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (2 players) || ={S}=Stealth Clan Server (1 more message)
18:59 <Durka> haha
18:59 <ghableska> #serverdetails styball
18:59 <armabot> ghableska: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (2/8): loops, woorm.bot
18:59 <wrtlprnft> g2g
18:59 <Durka> ct loops/
18:59 <Durka> no wrtl!
19:00 <Durka> :(
19:00 <Genki> #lastseen Genki
19:01 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12.240.54.90] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
19:01 <armabot> Genki: timed out
19:02 <Genki> #lastseen 3dot
19:02 <armabot> Genki: °°¯ 3dot °&°	Ò^ has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 12 hours 53 minutes ago.
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19:02 <Durka> hi luke jr work #2
19:03 <Durka> Genki: I'm thinking of making a "Durkapedia" on my site :p
19:04 <Durka> might be a waste of time though
19:04 <Durka> -.-
19:05 <Genki> do it anyways lol
19:05 <Durka> lol
19:05  * Durka is still looking for iceman
19:06 <Genki> what would it consist of?
19:07 <Durka> stuff like
19:07 <Durka> how to setup dedicated servers
19:07 <Durka> install moviepacks
19:07 <Durka> change colors
19:07 <Durka> but most of that stuff is on the wiki so there's no point
19:08 <Durka> dare to catfight me genki?
19:08 <Genki> would if I could
19:08 <Durka> why cant u
19:08 <Genki> no armagetron
19:08 <Durka> huh?
19:08 <Genki> no home computer
19:08 <Genki> I'm on my school laptop
19:08 <Genki> and it's blocked
19:09 <Durka> o
19:09 <Durka> u cant download it?
19:09 <Genki> nope
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19:10 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/dload.php?action=file&file_id=3
19:10 <Durka> try that
19:10  * Durka pokes ghab
19:10 <Genki> already did
19:10 <ghableska> hello again
19:11 <Durka> -.-
19:11 <Durka> didnt work :( sry
19:11 <Genki> I can't download anything
19:11 <Genki> :(
19:12 <Genki> but I can go to the library in about half an hour if you would like
19:13 <Genki> alright I'm going to the library
19:13 <Genki> see you in half an hour ok Durka?
19:13  * Genki pokes durka
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19:15 <Durka> k
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19:24  * Durka pokes ghab yet again
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19:25 <ghab1eska> grr
19:30 <Durka> hi luke
19:31 <ghab1eska> #weather 50265
19:32 <armabot> ghab1eska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 35.6°F (11:54 AM CST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa. 
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19:44 -!- ghab1eska is now known as ghableska
19:44 <ghableska> :D
19:49  * Durka pokes ghab
19:49 <ghableska> hi Durka
20:08 <Durka> *** ghableska is now know as ghableska
20:08 <Durka> what was the difference
20:09 <Durka> o ghab leska
20:09 <Durka> :p
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20:19 <Durka> hi tod (3rd time now :p)
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20:22 <ghableska> haha
20:23 <Durka> lol
20:23 <Durka> #lastseen belenus
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20:24 <armabot> Durka: timed out
20:33 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
20:33 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || Strawberry Fields (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (7 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (7 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6 players) || ¦Ö¦ Server: Fortress (6 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || (Moo) Clan (1 more message)
20:36 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
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20:50 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
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21:05 <Durka> #hello
21:05 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Horses are forbidden to eat fire hydrants in Marshalltown, Iowa.
21:06 <ghableska> crazy Iowans
21:09 <Durka> lol
21:13 <Durka> 12	ghableska	6698		"my past maps have turned out to be disasters..."
21:13 <ghableska> O_o
21:14 <ghableska> maps?
21:14 <ghableska> aah
21:14 <ghableska> for trackmania
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21:17 <Durka> hi
21:29 <ghableska> #weather 50265
21:29 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (1:54 PM CST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa. 
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21:40 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
21:40 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 4:10 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of rain changing to snow near midnight and ending overnight then cloudy. Rainfall amount 5 mm. Local snowfall amount 2 cm. Wind east 30 km/h becoming northeast 30 overnight. Low minus 1.; Wednesday - Cloudy. (1 more message)
21:40 <Vanhayes> heh, now we get snow
21:41 -!- Genki [n=a659130a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
21:41 <Genki> Ready Durka?
21:42 -!- Arma83 [n=Arma83@166.89.52.44] has joined #armagetron
21:42  * Genki pokes Durka
21:42 -!- Genki [n=a659130a@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit [Client Quit]
21:43 <Arma83> #lastseen Durka
21:43 <armabot> Arma83: Durka has last been seen on Fortress Café 0 days 3 hours 36 minutes ago.
21:43 -!- Arma83 is now known as Genki
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21:48 <Durka> k im ready
21:48 <Durka> catfight now
21:48 <Genki> okies
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22:04 <[Xpert]DarkStar> anyone got expieriences with gentoo and wifi+wpa config?
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22:19 <Durka> nope :|
22:21 <ghableska> damn, CS:S is fun
22:21 <ghableska> #weather 50265
22:21 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 42.8°F (2:54 PM CST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa. 
22:21 <Durka> bye
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22:44 <Genki> Did you all miss me? lol
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23:01 <Genki> #lastseen Durka
23:01 <armabot> Genki: [Lonely] Durka has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 0 days 1 hours 11 minutes ago.
23:01 <Genki> #lastseen guru3
23:02 <armabot> Genki: timed out
23:02 <Genki> wow
23:02 <Genki> #lastseen Genki
23:02 <armabot> Genki: CTT*Genki has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 38 minutes ago.
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Log from 2006-12-27:
--- Day changed Wed Dec 27 2006
00:00 <Genki> Awesome! My dad gave me $100 for Christmas! And 1000 won!
00:00 <Genki> ^_^
00:00 <Genki> yay
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00:16 -!- Arma49 is now known as Durka
00:17 <Durka> #hello
00:17 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Q: Why do ducks have big flat feet? || A: To stamp out forest fires. || Q: Why do elephants have big flat feet? || A: To stamp out flaming ducks.
00:17 <Durka> lol
00:17 <Genki> Hey Durka
00:17 <guru3> well
00:17 <guru3> that was amusing
00:18 <Durka> tank :D
00:18 <Durka> hows it goin
00:18 <Durka> hi genki
00:18 <guru3> like... i don't know
00:18 <guru3> i can't come up with a suitable analogy
00:18 <Durka> lol
00:18 <Genki> it's kinda like.. the glass is half full
00:18 <Durka> its really nice of u to be lending server for free
00:18 <Durka> servers*
00:19 <Durka> on your "infamous" connection lmao
00:19 <Genki> Durka I just figured that out like.. 2 seconds ago
00:19 <Durka> lol
00:19 <Durka> catfight again?
00:19 <Genki> can't I'm at home lol
00:20 <Genki> I already ran to the library once for you lol
00:20 <Durka> lol
00:21 <Genki> and I already gave you achristmas present, so I'm gonna have to give you a raincheck, k?
00:21 <Genki> a christmas*
00:21 <Genki> HEY TANK!!!
00:22 <Genki> guru?
00:22  * Genki pokes guru
00:22  * Durka pokes guru
00:22 <Durka> fuck u beat me
00:22 <Durka> to it :p
00:22 <Genki> haha
00:23 <Durka> Sir Fred?
00:23 <Durka> u there?
00:23 <guru3> what
00:23 <Durka> tank :)
00:23 <Genki> hey fred ^_^
00:23 <Genki> I got you a christmas present!
00:23 <Genki> want it?
00:23 <guru3> if you insist
00:23 <guru3> i'm not greedy
00:23  * Genki hugs Fred for his Christmas present
00:23 <Genki> ^_^
00:24 <Genki> I gave Durka one too, but I think it killed him
00:24 <Genki> he was catfighting
00:24 <Genki> and just died
00:24 <guru3> is this my cue to run around screaming "it burns! it burns" ?
00:24 <Genki> haha yes, yes it is
00:24 <Genki> or you can give me one back, unlike Durka
00:24  * guru3 runs around screaming "it burns! it burns"
00:24 <Genki> haha
00:24 <ghableska> O_o
00:24  * guru3 simultaneously hugs back
00:24 <Genki> hey!
00:24 <Genki> ^_^
00:25 <guru3> on fire ><
00:25 <Genki> lol
00:25  * Genki pats guru out
00:25 <Genki> well the flame...
00:25 <guru3> argh! you've snuffed out my life
00:25  * guru3 dies
00:25  * Genki pats out the fire
00:25  * Genki revives guru
00:25 <Genki> lol
00:25 <guru3> and thus the ocaisonal pointlessness of main chat :D
00:25 <Durka> he doesnt want some gay gift =_=
00:25  * Durka waits to see the "gift"
00:25 <Durka> woah huge pause in my connection
00:25 <Durka> 12 messages came in at the same second
00:25 <Genki> haha
00:26 <guru3> viva lag
00:26 <Genki> not worth the read Durka
00:26 <Durka> ghab knows what /me is gonna do
00:26 <Genki> ghab what is Durka gonna do?
00:26 <guru3> cry
00:26  * Durka pokes ghab
00:27 <guru3> endlessly and endlessly cry
00:27 <Genki> haha
00:27  * Genki pokes guru3
00:27  * guru3 jumps a mile
00:27 <guru3> or for you metric freaks
00:27 <Durka> tank: u got any 0.3 servers?
00:27  * guru3 jumps a km
00:27 <Genki> lol
00:27  * Durka hates metric
00:27 <guru3> no but i've got an 0.2.8.2.1 server
00:27  * Genki doesn't care
00:28 <Genki> I went there today, it was empty
00:28 <Genki> or maybe I went to the wrong one...
00:28 <Durka> :(
00:28 <guru3> so which 0.2.8.2.1 server is mine then, eh, EH?
00:28 <Genki> Tiger or something lol, had a T
00:28 <Durka> "eh" ur not canadian -.-
00:28 <guru3> WRONG
00:28 <Genki> what?
00:28 <Durka> thats 0.2.6-c
00:28 <guru3> Tigers Network is 0.2.6.0-2c
00:28 <Durka> :)
00:28 <Genki> no way!
00:28 <Genki> gaaaah
00:28 <Durka> lol
00:29 <guru3> ~way~
00:29 <Genki> I wanted to play with you tank :(
00:29 <guru3> and you're right Durka 
00:29 <guru3> it's not 2c ><
00:29 <Genki> Durka why didn't you tell me!
00:29 <Durka> reason i was asking was manta and i were trying to put together a sumo and fortress server
00:29 <guru3> i challange you to find the 0.2.8.2.1 server
00:29 <Genki> ugh
00:30 <Genki> if you're  online and I'm online I'll find it
00:30 <Durka> rotates configs each match, problem was it didnt work on his script (he had 0.2.8.2.1)
00:30 <guru3> ok i'm in it now
00:30 <Genki> #lastseen guru3
00:30 <Durka> #lastseen guru3
00:30 <Durka> fuck
00:30 <Genki> lol
00:30 <Genki> again Durka :P
00:30 <guru3> of course
00:30 <Durka> #lastseen tank_program
00:30 <Genki> I win
00:30 <guru3> i don't play with the name guru3 in game
00:30 <Genki> ahh yeah crap
00:30 <Genki> :(
00:30 <guru3> OR YOU COULD USE THE IN GAME SERVER BROWSER
00:30 <Genki> that too ^_^
00:30  * guru3 slaps everyone around with a large trout
00:30 <Genki> but I'm not in the game
00:30 <Durka> lmao
00:34  * Genki is hurt and cries
00:34 <guru3> it's a multislap (c)
00:34 <Durka> @lastseen bot1
00:34 <Durka> oops
00:34 <armabot> Genki: timed out
00:34 <Durka> #lastseen bot1
00:34  * guru3 feels guilty and comforts Genki 
00:34 <Durka> #lastseen -|x|-_drone1
00:34 <Genki> ^_^
00:34 <Genki> me feels better
00:34  * guru3 grumbles about 'being cheap' and 'ear wax'
00:34 <armabot> Durka: timed out
00:34 <armabot> Durka: Tank Program seems to be on Fortress right now.
00:34 <Genki> Fortress Cafe?
00:34 <ghableska> #armservers
00:34 <Genki> or just Fortress..
00:34 <Durka> no fortress
00:34 <guru3> muahaha my evil play on words
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00:34 <armabot> Durka: timed out
00:34 <Durka> hi max :)
00:34 <madmax|pt> hello
00:34  * Durka likes this server browser but no IPs :( -> http://generalconsumption.org/armagetronad/browser/
00:34 <guru3> haha i just holy shit confused myself
00:34 <armabot> Durka: timed out
00:34 <guru3> was wondering what the hell these servers on my lan were
00:34 <guru3> then realized they're the ones i'm hosting for other people
00:34 <guru3> ahahaha :>
00:34 <Durka> umm tank
00:35 <Durka> u do have an 0.3 server
00:35 <guru3> i said AHAHAHA damnit
00:35 <guru3> yeah i just noticed
00:35 <Durka> that Fortress server
00:35 <guru3> totally forgot what version it really was :>
00:35 <guru3> how's that for stupid eh
00:35 <Durka> make it into Fortress & Sumo
00:35 <Genki> http://www.fictionpress.com/s/2294307/1/ - go there ryan and stop bugging me
00:35 <guru3> just makes it harder to find the 0.2.8.2.1 one
00:35 <Genki> oops
00:35 <Durka> changes configs each match
00:35 <Genki> don't click on that
00:36  * Genki didn't mean to kill the chat
00:36 <guru3> altho you'd have to be a real haxor to find my 0.2.8.2.1 server
00:36 <guru3> Durka: too much work
00:36 <Durka> lmao i bookmarked that
00:36 <Genki> bookmarked what?
00:36 <Durka> tank: i wrote the config files already
00:36 <guru3> have you now
00:36 <Genki> guru3: I can hardly find my way around a forum
00:36 <guru3> might be able to work something out then
00:37 <guru3> incidently Genki, it's 12:30 again
00:37 <Durka> ok thing is you need to put 2 files in the /config folder
00:37 <Durka> of the 0.3 server
00:37 <Genki> eek go to bed!
00:38 <Genki> wait, don't cause I like talking to you
00:38 <Durka> and maybe a third (its the settings.cfg renamed in case u changed the orignal one)
00:38 <guru3> yeah my dad did just tell me to soon
00:38 <Genki> Durka needs you! you can't go!
00:38 <Durka> lol
00:38  * ghableska  yawns
00:38 <Durka> your 0.2.8.2.1 server/
00:38 <Durka> u have a bunch
00:39 <Durka> |x| Rubber
00:39 <guru3> rephrased
00:39 <Durka> Kyle's server
00:39 <guru3> the 0.2.8.2.1 server that i both run AND adminstrate
00:39 <guru3> not that i just run
00:39 <Durka> o lol
00:39 <Durka> so not [Xpert]DarkStar's
00:39 <guru3> no
00:39 <guru3> those ass use the webmin interface i wrote
00:39 <guru3> *all
00:39 <guru3> damn that typo
00:40 <Genki> uh huh
00:40 <Durka> lol
00:40 <Durka> i didnt find any...i looked on http://beta.armagetronad.net/serverlist.php
00:40 <guru3> that's why i said you'd have to be a real haxor to find it
00:41 <Genki> and I said: I can hardly find myway around a forum
00:41 <Genki> my way* even
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00:42 <guru3> it's like an instant replay
00:42 <Durka> well is the server online
00:42 <Durka> obviously no
00:42 <guru3> yes
00:42 <guru3> it is
00:43 <Durka> hmmm ill custom connect
00:45 <Genki> Durka: what did you bookmark?
00:45 <Genki> and tank when are you going to sleep?
00:46 <guru3> soon
00:46 <Genki> how soon is soon?
00:46 <guru3> not too soon
00:46 <Durka> http://www.fictionpress.com/s/2294307/1/
00:46 <Genki> O.O eek
00:47 <Genki> Durka no, don't read it
00:47 <Genki> no no no
00:47 <Genki> no no no no no no no no
00:47 <Genki> don't read it please!
00:47 <Durka> ok im custom connecting
00:47 <Durka> not port 4534
00:49 <Durka> not 35 36 37
00:49 <guru3> incidently
00:49 <guru3> its hard to read and play tough opponents on a server at the same time
00:50 <Genki> what tough opponents?
00:50 <guru3> e2d2
00:50 <Durka> i think i found it :)
00:51 <Genki> what is it Durka?
00:51 <Durka> """""think"""""
00:51 <Genki> interesting
00:51 <Durka> no i didnt :(
00:51 <Durka> still looking
00:52 <Genki> haha
00:52 <Genki> well as long as you're doing that and not... something else
00:53 <Durka> wait
00:53 <Durka> i cant connect past 4540 and before 4534? wtf
00:53 <Genki> yeah I know same here
00:53 <Genki> and you can't bookmark things too
00:53 <Durka> i thought u could...
00:54 <guru3> >:D
00:54 <guru3> advantage of being a dev
00:54 <Genki> dev?
00:54 <guru3> developer
00:54 <guru3> of tron
00:55 <Genki> you? O.O
00:55 <Durka> ok can u tell me this
00:55 <Durka> what port is it
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00:55 <Durka> i could probably hack my version of arma :)
00:55 <Genki> Durka how come you never told me about guru?
00:55 <Genki> he's awesome!
00:56 <Durka> he's the forum admin
00:56 <Durka> this is only my like 3rd time talking to him on irc :p
00:56 <Genki> haha
00:56 <Genki> well he's awesome, stop hogging him :P
00:57 <guru3> lol
00:57 <Durka> lol i pinged tank's server and this is what i got: 683.126
00:57 <guru3> next application form i fill out
00:57 <guru3> "personal qualitie: AWESOME."
00:58 <Genki> haha
00:58 <Genki> I can vouch for that
00:58 <Durka> ok im scanning for open ports :)
00:58 <guru3> :/
00:58 <Durka> lol
00:59 <Durka> i'll find that server trust me :)
00:59  * Genki thinks Durka is too determined for his own good
00:59 <Durka> lol
00:59  * Genki has already given up
00:59  * Genki didn't even start
00:59 <Durka> lol
00:59 <guru3> well you know
00:59 <guru3> just don't screw anything up
00:59 <Durka> lol
00:59 <Durka> damn genki: ur gonna catch up to lucifer at this rate
01:00 <Durka> all ready 699 lines for this channel by u
01:00 <Durka> http://electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
01:00 <Durka> probably another 200 tooday
01:00 <guru3> yeah you wouldn't believe how long doing the ircstats takes
01:01 <Durka> ?
01:01 <Durka> takes a second
01:01 <guru3> to generatae the page
01:02 <Durka> o ya 3 minutes
01:02 <Durka> but i mean that pisg program generates it for u right?
01:02 <guru3> yeah
01:03 <guru3> but it's a lot of resources to generate it
01:03 <Durka> very nice!
01:03 <Durka> ya i can imagine
01:03  * Genki yawns
01:03  * Durka knows spidey is listening to all of this and laughing his ass off
01:03 <Genki> Durka you should be glad I respect you, running for 30 mintes too the library is not fun
01:03 <Genki> haha
01:03 <guru3> and it's just gonna take longer
01:04  * Genki agrees
01:04 <Durka> haha lol
01:04 <guru3> sorta lost the thread of chat now
01:04 <Genki> minutes* even
01:04 <Genki> scroll up guru
01:04 <Genki> :P
01:04 <guru3> doesn't mean it sinks in
01:04 <guru3> i could scroll back to the very first lines of this channel
01:05 <Durka> o ya so tank should i send u the config files
01:05 <Durka> no1 uses ur 0.3 fortress server anyways :p
01:05 <guru3> --- Log opened Sun Feb 13 10:30:56 2005
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01:05 <guru3> Durka: there's some usage
01:05 <guru3> and i am collecting debug recordings there too
01:05 <guru3> just never bother to do anything with it
01:05 <Durka> well...i mean ya but compared to the other 6 euro fortress servers
01:06 <guru3> i'm not running it to have it stand otu
01:06 <Durka> well i mean i just wanted to see how ppl like the config
01:07 <guru3> then you shall DIE
01:07 <Durka> i tested it in a local game using 0.3 and it worked
01:07 <guru3> or something
01:07 <guru3> we'll see
01:07 <guru3> i'll have to think about it
01:07 <Durka> k
01:07 <guru3> i am consuming precious resources
01:07 <guru3> to host tron
01:07 <Durka> lol
01:07 <guru3> that i could be using to download anime
01:07 <Durka> haha
01:07 <Durka> :p
01:07 <Genki> isn't 700GB enough?
01:07 <Genki> anime
01:07 <Durka> lol
01:08 <guru3> yeah but i can spike bw usage up to 10mbits justdling anime
01:08 <Durka> tank: what mod did u use for the subforums
01:08 <guru3> depending on how much im doing at once
01:08 <Durka> was it the categories hierachy
01:08 <guru3> yeah
01:08 <Durka> or the easy sub-forums
01:08 <Durka> wwhich one
01:08 <guru3> cat
01:09 <Durka> i looked at it and said 3 hours to install o_O
01:09 <guru3> yeah
01:09 <Durka> did u use easyMod?
01:09 <guru3> it was... fun...
01:09 <guru3> yeah
01:10 <Durka> easy mod?
01:10 <Durka> or by urself?
01:10 <guru3> yeah
01:10 <Durka> ouch
01:11 <guru3> easy mod
01:11 <guru3> ffs
01:11 <guru3> read the chat right
01:11 <Durka> o easy mod
01:11 <Durka> i didnt think it installed with easy mod
01:12 <Durka> have you hear of phpBB2 plus
01:12 <guru3> nope
01:12 <Durka> o its very nice
01:13 <Durka> tons of mods installed
01:13 <Durka> not many templates
01:13 <Durka> but a few good ones
01:13 <Durka> quick reply, portal, shoutbox, downloads, knowledge base, links, and so many other things
01:14 <guru3> portal :/
01:14 <Durka> I put the armagetron downloads on mine :) -> http://durka.freehostia.com/dload.php
01:14 <Durka> u dont have to have the portal
01:15 <Durka> i put just like news and announcements there
01:15 <Durka> its cool
01:15 <guru3> right well
01:15 <Genki> I enjoy it
01:15 <Genki> well... I enjoy spamming on it :-D
01:15 <guru3> sleep...
01:16 <guru3> good night...
01:16 <Genki> goodnight
01:16 <Genki> sleep tight
01:16 <Genki> don't let the bedbugs bite
01:16 <Durka> lol
01:16 <Genki> :-D
01:16 <Durka> bye tank
01:16 <guru3> 3
01:17 <Genki> lol
01:17 <Genki> guess you're taking off then Durka?
01:17  * Genki pokes Durka
01:18 <Durka> no i though tank was leaving =_=
01:19 <Genki> yeah he's gone to sleep
01:19 <Genki> but Ithought you'd go too
01:19 <Genki> gah stupid spacebar
01:20 <Durka> lol
01:20 <Genki> I just met tank yesterday I think
01:20 <Genki> he's really nice ^_^
01:20 <Durka> lol
01:21 <Genki> well he is!
01:21 <Genki> helped me out a lot
01:21 <Genki> anywho
01:21 <Genki> you've had/have a girlfriend right durka?
01:22 <Genki> *girly question time* in case you didn't catch on
01:22 <Durka> ya
01:22 <Durka> lol
01:23 <Genki> ya? had or have?
01:23 <Genki> when'd you get your first kiss? ^_^
01:23 <Genki> errr if that isn't too personal
01:24 <ghableska> O_O
01:24 <Genki> oooo
01:24 <Genki> ghab you wanna play too?
01:24 <Genki> well.. answer questions lol
01:28 <madmax|pt> /whois Genki 
01:29 <Genki> umm me?
01:29 <Genki> #whois Genki
01:29 <madmax|pt> :)
01:29 <ghableska> no thanks
01:29 <madmax|pt> hi ghab
01:29 <Genki> mad: what do you want to know?
01:30 <madmax|pt> hm nothing
01:30 <madmax|pt> nevermind
01:30 <Genki> lol k
01:33 <ghableska> hi max
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01:48 <Genki> #cnn 85747
01:48 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Davis Monthan Afb, AZ is 70.0°F. Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 11%. Wind: NW at 5 mph (8 km/h).
01:52 <Genki> #lastseen 3dot
01:52 <armabot> Genki: °¯°3dot °'° has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 0 days 3 hours 34 minutes ago.
02:15 <Durka> #night
02:15 <armabot> Good night Durka!
02:15 <Genki> Night Durka
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03:11 <Arma79> hi to everyone   can anybody tell me how to use irc with miranda im?
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03:13 <Arma79> i'm 3dot - somehow i cannot change nick...
03:13 <ghableska> type /nick
03:13 <Arma79> done
03:13 <Genki> 3dot!!
03:13 <Genki> type /nick 3dot
03:13 <ghableska> well /nick 3dot
03:13 <Arma79> hi genkijenniefer
03:14  * Genki hugs 3dot
03:14 <Genki>  came!
03:14 <Arma79> doesnt work
03:14 <Genki> you came!
03:14 <Arma79> i dont still understand how to use it
03:14 <Genki> is there something in the right hand corner that says change nick?
03:14 <Arma79> yepp  tried too  doesnt work
03:15 <Genki> :( oh well, you're here!
03:15 <Genki> ^_^
03:15  * Genki is overjoyed
03:16 <Arma79> i try to pm you - does it arrive?
03:16 <Genki> nope
03:17 <Arma79> can you open the persona window of arma79 by doubleclick?
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03:20 <Arma79> one moment i start from the beginning
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03:23 <Arma76> test
03:23 <Genki> o
03:23 <Arma76> eeerk i have still no new nick
03:24 <Arma76> 3dot again
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03:24 <Genki> it's ok, I know who you are
03:24 <Arma76> but i want to talk to you personally
03:25 <Genki> I don't see any way we can, unless you want to go on a forum
03:25 <Genki> or e-mail
03:25 <Arma76> try to doubleklick me
03:27 <Arma76> or should i post everything in public? may be amusement
03:28 <Genki> if you wish
03:28 <Arma76> well ok
03:28 <Arma76> what law is broken if we have feelings for each other?
03:29 <Arma76> to anybody listening: i am 33, genki is 15
03:29 <Genki> There is no law, but being together will be breaking a few
03:29 <Genki> you've certainly grown bolder in my absense
03:29 <Arma76> whats to grow bolder?
03:30 <Genki> I would have never thought you would discuss this publicly
03:30 <Arma76> i have the need to talk to you and thisseems to be the only possibility
03:31 <Arma76> i dont have to hide anything because i never did anything wrong or endangering to anyone
03:31 <Arma76> i dont understand the expression to grow bolder
03:31 <Genki> it is unimportant
03:31 <Genki> it is *not* important
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03:32 <Arma76> "being together" is by far not the same as marriage or having sex, so what law does it break?
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03:33 <Genki> what is your definition of being together?
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03:34 <Arma76> to show feelings to each other, to be gently and to stay in a somehow fixed connection
03:34 <Arma76> i still dont know your definition
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03:35 <Arma76> somehow i wished back the statue before we decided to be together, because we both were free and many things were happening
03:35 <Genki> being together... means... the people involved do not see other people... that's what it means to me
03:36 <Genki> We can never go back..
03:37 <Arma76> not see other people in a sensse of not getting intimate with them?
03:37 <Genki> exactly
03:37 <Arma76> exactly this point was the one that troubled YOU the most
03:38 <Arma76> i dont give much on it concerning to your behaviour
03:38 <Genki> and what exactly is my behaviour?
03:38 <Arma76> for me it means kind of a promise that whatever happens with other people doesnt change the special connection two people have with each other
03:40 <Arma76> i try to speak the same in other words: your behaviour to other people is of no importance for me as long as it doesnt interrupt our connection
03:40 <Arma76> this would be irrealistic 
03:40 <Genki> and you don't seem to understand that I feel guilty about even talking to other guys when I'm with you
03:40 <Arma76> true
03:41 <Arma76> i am differnt in these points to you - i wish you would feel free
03:41 <Arma76> feeling guilty may mean that you dont rust yourself or the stability od our connection
03:41 <Arma76> perhaps
03:42 <Genki> I do not trust myself...
03:42 <Arma76> why not?
03:43 <Arma76> dont you believe in your feelings?
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03:43 <Genki> I believe in those, but my control... is not limitless
03:44 <Arma76> but if those feelings fade away its just fate  i would be sad about it but that would just be the way of life
03:45 <Arma76> although i had the impression that there is something in you that goes towards me very intense and somehow inbreakable
03:46 <Genki> I told you before, I will always have feelings for you, but I do not know how strong...
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03:49 <Arma94> i dropped off
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03:49 <Genki> np
03:49 <Arma94> did the last long sentence arrive?
03:49 <Genki> although i had the impression that there is something in you that goes towards me very intense and somehow inbreakable
03:49 <Genki> that one?
03:50 <Arma94> i repeat
03:50 <Arma94> and i told you that i wish that you have relations in your real life
03:50 <Arma94> that includes the risk of loosing you
03:50 <Arma94> but then it would probably mean the whole thing was not that big as we both believed
03:51 <Arma94> but i dont want to imprison you
03:51 <Genki> You know I have a boyfriend...
03:51 <Arma94> you are still so young
03:51 <Genki> I told you today
03:51 <Arma94> in internet
03:51 <Arma94> thats nonsense
03:51 <Arma94> not the same
03:51 <Genki> still I would not feel right living a double life
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03:52 <Arma94> if you start this with someone else in virtuality it will be the same thing
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03:52 <Genki> it's different with him, we're just trying things out
03:52 <Arma94> where is the difference?
03:52 <Genki> and he is my age
03:52 <Arma94> besides this
03:53 <Genki> because there are no strong feelings
03:53 <Arma94> you knew my age from the very beginning and you said it does not disturb you
03:53 <Arma94> with me?
03:53 <Genki> it does not
03:53 <Genki>  you know... my family
03:53 <Genki> you know I had to disappear from your life twice already
03:53 <Arma94> your family told you not to tell feelings on internet
03:54 <Genki> and the also told me that it is wrong to be with someone older than me
03:54 <Arma94> if you have another relation over internet it is the same
03:54 <Arma94> WHY?
03:54 <Genki> they approve of him
03:55 <Arma94> please answer me on the virtuality questions
03:55 <Genki> it is not the same
03:55 <Genki> it is not the same because we have a similarity in age
03:55 <Arma94> feelings are different?
03:55 <Genki> feelings are different too
03:56 <Arma94> i meant telling feelings on internet is different to telling felings?
03:56 <Arma94> on internet too
03:57 <Arma94> tell me where i am wrong: you shared feelings with me and it was wrong and now you share feelings with someone else and it is ok?
03:57 <Genki> I do not question my parents
03:58 <Arma94> you will get the same trouble concerning your real life as before
03:58 <Genki> hey feel it is wrong to share feelings with someone so much older than me
03:58 <Genki> they*
03:58 <Arma94> do they say WHY?
03:58 <Genki> no, and you know what will happen if I question them
03:58 <Arma94> or might i ever talk to them?
03:58 <Arma94> no
03:59 <Arma94> officially you are allowed now to TALK to me
03:59 <Genki> I can talk to you, but that was a hard battle
04:00 <Arma94> i want to describe my situation
04:00 <Genki> then do so
04:00 <Arma94> this will last some time
04:00 <Genki> then please begin
04:00 <Arma94> i was playing in an internet game and a friendly female being suddenly started to love me and to kiss me
04:01 <Arma94> i was some troubled - she was gently and cute and i started to like her
04:01 <Arma94> after some time i repeated to her request to e-mail her
04:02 <Arma94> corr: i answer to her request
04:02 <Arma94> first i tell is my age and that anything that ever comes will have to be started from her before
04:02 <Arma94> i see that as my way of handling responsibel
04:03 <Arma94> in this time my feelings towards her grow
04:03 <Arma94> but in the same time i think to myself: she is very young and still with growing sentiments and sights
04:04 <Arma94> if i will get in closer contact it will make me vulnerable because i have a deep wish for stability
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> lemme guess, you were talking to Genki
04:04 <Arma94> usually i would never start anything with someone lets say more than 5 years younger than me
04:04 <Arma94> yepp
04:04 <Lucifer_arma> you do know she talks to everyone like that, right?
04:05 <Genki> what?
04:05 <Genki> I do not
04:05 <Lucifer_arma> do I need to dig up irc logs?
04:05 <Arma94> she talked to my in a way that i meant ot be something special for her
04:05 <Arma94> please let me go on in my description
04:05 <Genki> if I ever talked like that I was completely joking
04:05 <Arma94> there was by far more
04:06 <Arma94> i decided to get involved to this because i had the impression that she is something special on her
04:06 <Arma94> one beautyfull was that she only knew my behaviour, my speech and my way to talk to other people
04:06 <Arma94> and me the same
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04:07 <Arma94> it was a connection that based only on internal relations
04:08 <Arma94> and as we started to talk on im, many things happened
04:08 <Arma94> i wrote poems and she laughted and some intimate things happened (still innocent and one sexual attraction from her side was not answered from my side)+
04:09 <Arma94> at this point i thought to myself:
04:09 <Arma94> i have to be responsible for her in a way that she doesnt reduce her real life
04:10 <Arma94> so i told her to live as usual and to have sex or kissings or whatever with real boys
04:10 <Arma94> i only wished that our specia relatiion woud last
04:10 <Arma94> sorry for mistakes
04:10 <Arma94> ]
04:11 <Genki> no worries, I understand
04:11 <Arma94> then one day she told me in a complicating way that she wanted me to ask her to be my girlfriend
04:11 <Arma94> i was some confused because i did not know what this might mean
04:11 <Arma94> i found the meaning to be hers and her to be mine somehow
04:12 <Arma94> therefore i sked her and she agreed
04:12 <Arma94> then nearly one week the contact was nearly nothing
04:12 <Arma94> and i learned to miss her
04:13 <Arma94> i told this and in this time i was thinking about finishing this all, because i had the impression to be something like a game and the gamer had won by asking me for a relationship
04:13 <Arma94> but the contact came back
04:14 <Arma94> and i got somehow fixed on it
04:14 <Arma94> it made me happy - i felt this love for real and although i never had thought this possible this virtual connectiion became important for me
04:15 <Arma94> there were times when we saw each otherrarely and some when we saw us more
04:15 <Arma94> somehow alike real life
04:15 <Arma94> and then suddenly she told me that it all is over
04:15 <Arma94> without explanation
04:16 <Arma94> it was only my very true decision to vanish fro arma and this connection that made her explain that her school had got out that she sent me an intimate letter
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04:17 <Arma94> (there was nothing more than a kiss and naming me "hun"
04:17 <Arma94> )
04:17 <Arma94> and because of this her parents forbid her to have any contact to me
04:18 <Arma94> this was all in secret told
04:18 <Arma94> and on arma we had to watch too
04:19 <Arma94> on this point i thought to finish it again, because i had the impresion that this all was becoming to hard for jenniefer
04:19 <Arma94> but she seemed to manage it and the hidden contact became mire vivid again
04:19 <Arma94> then suddenly: "this all is over"
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04:20 <Arma94> (this happened after we flirted on arma very happy only one hour ago)
04:20 <Arma94> i was completely confused
04:21 <Arma94> i couldnt even ask about any reason - she just told me that she did not want any touches or kisses anymore
04:21 <Arma94> naturally i thought: her parents catched her, the treat her to tell me this
04:22 <Arma94> i alredy was close to a decision to write to her schools everything COMPLETELY that hey would see that i never harassed her or made anything sexual
04:23 <Arma94> the connected wish was that her parents would get this too
04:23 <Arma94> when she was playing already after the first leave i had problems to stay
04:23 <Arma94> sometimes i left without any comment, because i could not stay
04:24 <Arma94> one time i tried to stay because i did not want her to feel guilty that i have to leve because of her
04:25 <Arma94> then she asked me about how i feel and what i wish and all i repeated was that i missed her love
04:25 <Arma94> and she told me that i have it and that it will never change
04:26 <Arma94> something back:
04:26 <Arma94> the reason that her parents forbit to have contact with me was the age difference
04:27 <Arma94> i understand if people are worried for their children, because especially on internet there ARE dangers (not only) for young girls
04:27 <Arma94> that was the reason why i wanted to talk to her parents
04:28 <spidey> ...
04:28 <Arma94> i could evern send the complete logs of my IMs with her and they would not find ANYTHING that might harm her
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: heh
04:28 <Arma94> plese let me continue  talk later
04:29  * Lucifer_arma quitely notes the most cynical players are in this chat room
04:29 <ghableska> heh
04:29 <Arma94> then wen we met there in arma she explained that the reason for leavin ´g me this time was that she did not come through with a relatin of this far distance without the material touching
04:29 <spidey> man
04:29 <spidey> i just woke up
04:29 <Lucifer_arma> cold wakeup, eh?
04:30 <Arma94> at this point i wascompletely down - i felt powerless
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> like waking up and finding your wife watching All My Children with the sound cranked all the way up
04:30 <spidey> well
04:30 <spidey> i can't remember monday
04:30 <spidey> :/
04:30 <Arma94> only 5 minutes ok?
04:30 <Lucifer_arma> today is monday
04:30 <spidey> it's tuesday..
04:30 <spidey> #date
04:30 <armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
04:30 <spidey> #time
04:30 <armabot> spidey: 04:32 AM, December 27, 2006
04:30 <Arma94> genki are you still reading?
04:31 <spidey> 27th is wednesday
04:31 <Lucifer_arma> armabot's in germany
04:32 <Arma94> and AFTER THIS - after tellingme that the last decision to finish this all was the lack of body-contact she told me today that she found another boyfriend in internet
04:32 <spidey> yea
04:33 <spidey> he's a few hours ahead
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> this was Genki?
04:33 <Arma94> genki if you dont say anything that you are still here i will switch off
04:33 <Arma94> it was her
04:33 <spidey> ???
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> watn me to kick her?
04:33 <Arma94> hahaha no
04:33 <Lucifer_arma> then I kick both of you.  :)  Get a room.
04:34 <spidey> lololol
04:34 <Arma94> we tried but she did nt manage it
04:34 <Arma94> but she seems to be away anyway
04:34 <Genki> I am not away
04:34 <Genki> jsut reading
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04:34 <Genki> just*
04:35 <Genki> Sry Lucifer
04:35 <Arma94> do you understand my confusion?
04:35 <spidey> who's Arma94 ?
04:35 <Arma94> my long explanation is over
04:35 <Genki> yes I do
04:35 <Arma94> 3dot
04:35 <spidey> lol
04:35 <Genki> 3dot, his /nick isn't working
04:35 <Arma94> funny
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> you could both register with the nameserver and use /msg to talk to each other
04:36 <Genki> and neither is his pm
04:36 <spidey> ..
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> here, you have to register with nameserv to do pm to each other
04:36 <spidey> he has to register
04:36 <Arma94> somehow my firefox is too safe
04:36 <Arma94> i am
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> go back to the page you were on and type in a new nick?
04:36 <Lucifer_arma> or get a worth-a-fuck irc client?
04:36 <Arma94> i entered from being registered
04:37 <spidey> um
04:37 <spidey> java irc clients blow ass
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> that web script is a "first hit".  If you want to chat for very long here you really need a real irc client (unless you're durka)
04:37 <Arma94> i tried to get it in my miranda but it didnt work
04:37 <Lucifer_arma> gaim supports irc
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04:37 <spidey> lol
04:38 <Arma94> sorry for this - i just had to tell this
04:38 <Arma94> i would have screamed it on www reachable for anybody if there would not have been another way
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> why?  she's just a name online
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> so am I, for that matter
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04:39 <Lucifer_arma> indeed, so are you
04:39 <Lucifer_arma> let's not take this shit too seriously
04:39 <spidey> um
04:39 <spidey> i was gonna say that but decided not to :D
04:39 <Arma94> thats what i thought too before all this happened, but it grw to something more
04:39 <Arma94> grew
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's called "scope creep" and it's the worst evil in the world
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> just settle down.  If you can't physically put a ring on her, don't waste your time
04:40 <Arma94> this was about 4 moths of close contact also with camchat
04:40 <spidey> scope creep?
04:40 <spidey> wtf?
04:40 <Lucifer_arma> scope creep.  "I'm going to build a house", and you wind up building a castle
04:40 <spidey> o
04:40 <Arma94> i'd like to travel into usa if she will be 18
04:41 <Arma94> i think until that i will be able to
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> why?  so you can find out she's always been a 28-year old man?
04:41 <spidey> haha
04:41 <Arma94> have seen her on cam
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> so?
04:41 <spidey> i liked that
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> I could fake it
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> I could pretend to be Genki quite easily, complete with sexy cam
04:41 <spidey> yea, you can feed cam streams over yahoo and msn
04:41 <Arma94> moving, laughing and family in background?
04:41 <Genki> 3dot do you want the truth? the reason why I do not want to be with you?
04:41 <Lucifer_arma> if you can't physically put a ring on her finger, don't waste your time
04:41 <Arma94> YES
04:42 <Genki> can you handle it?
04:42 <Arma94> i dont know but i prfer
04:42 <Arma94> prefer
04:43 <spidey> hayes
04:43 <Genki> I did like you yes, age does not matter to me, my parents really do hate the fact that you are older then me, and I left the first time because I hated not having anything like holding hands or anything
04:43 <spidey> why you got 3 names in here?
04:43 <Arma94> thruth is for me the only important thing for any acting and being
04:43 <Genki> but I came bcak because I did not want you to leave arma just because of me
04:43 <Genki> back*
04:43 <ghableska> 4
04:43 <spidey> 4?
04:43  * Lucifer_arma quietly notes that truth is even harder to find in real life, let alone on the internet
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> er, that came out wrong
04:43 <spidey> lmao
04:43 <Lucifer_arma> yes, spidey (hi there!) , 4
04:44 <spidey> o
04:44 <spidey> Seyahnav, 
04:44 <Genki> and now I'm leaving again because I do not have strong feelings for you
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> Van-hayes: Vanhayes (hi there!) Vanhayes2 (hi there!) Seyahnav (hi there!) 
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> that's 4 names, count 'em
04:44 <Genki> I did not want to hurt you because of everything we shared, so I tried to keep something between us
04:44 <spidey> i can't
04:44 <Genki> can you understand that?
04:44 <Arma94> well then it just should not last forever
04:44 <Lucifer_arma> why do mortals insist on having love that lasts forever?
04:45 <spidey> Genki, how old are you? and Arma94 how old are you?
04:45 <Arma94> it's disapointing but it is a fact i will simply accept
04:45 <Arma94> 33
04:45 <Genki> I am 15 3dot is 33
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> you're 3dot, how old is genki?
04:45 <spidey> !?
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> jeez.  3dot should know better
04:45 <spidey> OMG
04:45 <Lucifer_arma> he's old enough to screw your mother!
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04:45 <spidey> haha
04:45 <Genki> not really
04:45 <Arma94> dont tell this HER
04:45 <spidey> man
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> dude, you should know better
04:46 <spidey> 3dot
04:46 <Lucifer_arma> even spidey knows better, and he's just a kid too
04:46 <spidey> if you did come to the us 
04:46 <Arma94> usually i dont have any contact to such young girls
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04:46 <Lucifer_arma> so?
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04:46 <Genki> *sigh* 3dot are we done here?
04:46 <spidey> it'd be straight to prision
04:46 <Arma94> she overwhelmed me somehow
04:46 <spidey> prison*
04:46 <Genki> that's what I said
04:46 <spidey> ir w/e
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04:46 <Genki> it's against the LAW
04:47 <Vanhayes> #ping
04:47 <armabot> pong
04:47 <Arma94> what should matter in any way if there are no impotant feelings anymore?
04:47 <Arma94> no
04:47 <Arma94> sex and marriage are agains law not feelings
04:47 <Genki> but being together is
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> only if you've got serious developmental issues
04:47 <spidey> you know what they'd call you 3dot
04:47 <Lucifer_arma> otherwise, there's no logical reason a 33yo man should even find a 15yo girl attractive
04:48 <Arma94> i never did ANYTHING sexual but kissing
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> other than thinking she was hot, if in fact she was hot
04:48 <Genki> I am not hot
04:48 <spidey> lawl
04:48 <Genki> I'm short and asian, and damn proud of it
04:48 <Arma94> such things were in no way of any importance to me
04:48 <Lucifer_arma> did you recently get dumped by someone, 3dot?
04:49 <Lucifer_arma> smoke pot or something?
04:49 <spidey> ugh
04:49 <Arma94> never in life
04:49 <spidey> don't bring pot into this
04:49 <Genki> lol
04:49 <Genki> spidey how's your dog?
04:49 <spidey> sleeping
04:49 <spidey> o.O
04:49 <Arma94> i dont even drink alcohol
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> recently dumped?
04:50 <Genki> other than me?
04:50 <spidey> alcohol sucks anyways :p
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> other than you, yes
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> recently dumped before you hooked up with her
04:50 <Arma94> is it ok to think that a young girl is beautiful? if there is no sexual interest in it?
04:50 <spidey> yes
04:50 <Lucifer_arma> no
04:50 <spidey> but it's not ok to act on it
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04:50 <Lucifer_arma> ok, spidey's finally *finally* right about something
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04:51 <Lucifer_arma> you should've known better.  So you've made your own bed, now lie in it.
04:51 <Arma94> virtual kissing is forbidden in souch cases?
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> yes
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> you're just splitting hairs
04:51 <Arma94> why? this is not sex
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> fact is, if she dropped in to your house and took her clothes off, you'd've fucked her brains out
04:51 <Lucifer_arma> so what you did here is just as bad
04:51 <Arma94> its an expession af loving
04:51 <Genki> 3dot... just go... please
04:52 <Arma94> ok
04:52 <Arma94> bye then
04:52 <Genki> goodbye
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04:52 <spidey> poor guy
04:52 <Genki> sorry again Lucifer
04:52  * spidey thinks he needs to get his head straight
04:52 <spidey> o.O
04:52 <Genki> do you wish me to leave?
04:53 <Genki> spidey? do you want me to go?
04:53 <spidey> ?
04:54 <Genki> I caused all this crap
04:54 <spidey> not my decision :p
04:54 <Genki> I'm making it yours
04:54 <spidey> if i didn't want to hear you anymore i'd use /ignore :p
04:54 <Genki> haha
04:54 <Genki> I see
04:54 <spidey> i have luke ignore, but he keeps changing his hostmask :/
04:55 <Genki> why do you hate luke btw?
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04:55 <Genki> or not hate... why do you ignore him?
04:56 <spidey> i love picking on luke
04:56 <spidey> he's such and easy target :p
04:56 <Genki> haha
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04:56 <spidey> ...
04:56 <spidey> i'm confused
04:56 <ghableska> :P
04:56 <spidey> >.<
04:56 <Genki> about what?
04:57 <spidey> which one is hayes 
04:57 <spidey> o.O
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04:57 <Genki> dunno lol
04:57 <Genki> maybe a glitch
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04:58 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:58 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 11:28 PM AST; Tonight - Periods of rain changing to snow near midnight and ending overnight then cloudy. Rainfall amount 5 mm. Local snowfall amount 2 cm. Wind east 30 km/h becoming northeast 30 overnight. Low minus 1.; Wednesday - Cloudy. (1 more message)
04:59 <Genki> Well I know for certain Lucifer either has me on ignore or is pissed
04:59 <Genki> or both
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05:01 <spidey> i
05:01 <spidey> want food
05:01 <spidey> BRB
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05:03 <ghableska> haha
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05:07 <Vanhayes> man, this is getting rediculous
05:07 <Genki> ?
05:07 <spidey> all hail the great SPIDEY!
05:07 <spidey> Vanhayes, get a better isp ;p
05:08 <Genki> k I'm out, time to drown in a nice shower
05:08 <Genki> see ya
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05:09 <Vanhayes_> whew
05:10 <Vanhayes1> GRR
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05:11 <Vanhayes_> hahaha
05:11 <Vanhayes> as soon as some of these time out ill register them
05:11 <Vanhayes> that you ghab?
05:12 <Vanhayes_> yeah
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05:18 <Vanhayes1> #ping
05:18 <armabot> pong
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05:25 <ghableska> heh
05:25 <ghableska> #weather 50265
05:25 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 32.0°F (9:54 PM CST on December 26, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa. 
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05:59 <spidey> shit >.<
05:59 <spidey> o
05:59 <spidey> we should get a freeciv game going :D
06:01 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
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06:18 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
06:19 <spidey> freeciv? :D
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, actually, I was baking bread, playing my harmonica, smoking, taking my mother-in-law to her hotel...
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> *some* of us have lives outsides this channel :)
06:20 <spidey> ...
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> no freeciv, got too much to do to blow 8-40 hours on a game right now
06:20  * Lucifer_arma wanted 3dot and Genki to see that particular comment :)
06:21 <spidey> lol
06:21 <spidey> which?
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> well, I guess all of them :)
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm
06:22 <spidey> lol
06:22 <Lucifer_arma> should we have something in the subject that says "No internet love affairs here, please take it to #fuckyourself" ?
06:22 <spidey> i didn't know people still did "internet dating"
06:23 <spidey> --> You are now talking on #fuckyourself
06:23 <spidey> noone in there..
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06:26 <spidey_> wtf
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06:26 <spidey_> #last --nolimit
06:26 <spidey_> hm
06:26 <spidey_> #ping
06:27 <Vanhayes> pong
06:28 -!- spidey_ is now known as spidey
06:28 <spidey> ok
06:28 <spidey> anyways where was i
06:28 <spidey> armabot you're slow..
06:30 <Vanhayes> #ping
06:30 <Vanhayes> thought she might have you on ignore, guess not
06:31 <armabot> spidey_: [06:27:39] <spidey_> wtf, [06:24:51] <spidey> noone in there.., [06:24:48] <spidey> --> You are now talking on #fuckyourself, [06:24:24] <spidey> i didn't know people still did "internet dating", [06:24:23] <Lucifer_arma> should we have something in the subject that says "No internet love affairs here, please take it to #fuckyourself" ?, [06:24:09] <spidey> lol, [06:24:06] <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, [06:23:57] (50 more messages)
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06:31 <armabot> pong
06:31 <armabot> pong
06:31 <spidey> ..
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06:31 <Genki> bored?
06:32 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, actually, I was baking bread, playing my harmonica, smoking, taking my mother-in-law to her hotel...
06:32 <spidey> lmao
06:32 <Genki> o... was asking spidey, but that seems fun...
06:34 <ghableska> #night
06:34 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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06:36 <spidey> btw
06:36 <spidey> who's genki...
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> some chick that plays arma
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09:16 <DrJoeTron> #g anything
09:16 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:16 <DrJoeTron> # poop
09:16 <DrJoeTron> #g cups
09:16 <armabot> DrJoeTron: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
09:17 <DrJoeTron> #search google>?
09:17 <armabot> DrJoeTron: There were no matching configuration variables.
09:17  * DrJoeTron idiot
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09:25 <DrJoeTron> I cant connect to anything that is google
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10:01 <Lucifer_arma> #seen your_ass
10:01 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: your_ass was last seen in #armagetron 3 days, 2 hours, 36 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <Your_ass> FUCK FUCK SHIT SHIT OH WHAT A RELIEF IT IS
10:23 <wrtlprnft> #google fish
10:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.24 seconds: Fish Information Service: <http://fins.actwin.com/>; Northeast Fisheries Science Center Fish FAQ: <http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/faq/>; Fish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish>; FISH ! Philosophy: <http://www.charthouse.com/>; Aquarium Supplies @ Fish .com: <http://www.fish.com/>; U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Home: (1 more message)
10:23 <wrtlprnft> #g 1+2
10:23 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 + 2 = 3
10:23 <wrtlprnft> works just fine
10:24 <wrtlprnft> #morning
10:24 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune: A Linux machine! because a 486 is a terrible thing to waste! || (By jjs@wintermute.ucr.edu, Joe Sloan)
10:33 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: can you try if updating bad behavior on the wiki helps? the spam is pretty bad lateley
12:30 <spidey> #g 24,465 B/s in KB/s
12:31 <spidey> ...
12:31 <spidey> does the bot have me on ignore again? :/
12:33 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
12:33 <spidey> ..
12:33 <spidey> #g 24465 B in KB
12:33 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
12:33 <spidey> #g 24465 bytes in KB
12:33 <armabot> spidey: 24,465 bytes = 23.8916016 kilobytes
12:33 <spidey> #g 24465 bytes/s in KB/s
12:33 <armabot> spidey: 24,465 (bytes / s) = 23.8916016 KB / s
12:34 <spidey> make: execvp: ./src/mk_phpmyadmin_config.sh: Permission denied
12:34 <spidey> make: *** [build] Error 127
12:34 <spidey>     <---what's that mean?
12:55 <wrtlprnft> that means that you don't have the permissions to execute that script
12:55 <spidey> gay
12:55 <wrtlprnft> chmod a+rx src/mk_phpmyadmin_config.sh
12:56 <spidey> ok, lets try this again
12:56 <spidey> make: execvp: ./src/mk_webmail_redirect.sh: Permission denied
12:56 <spidey> make: *** [build] Error 127
12:56 <spidey> :/
12:56 <wrtlprnft> chmod a+rx src/mk_*.sh ?
12:56 <spidey> can i just shmod the directory?
12:57 <spidey> chmod*
12:57 <wrtlprnft> that won't help you
12:57 <wrtlprnft> except if you use -R
12:57 <spidey> k
12:58 <spidey> hmm
12:59 <spidey> Hello,
12:59 <spidey> I am very sorry but you will not be able to install your own control
12:59 <spidey> panel system as we do not allow such actions.
12:59 <spidey> Thanks!
12:59 <spidey> Nicholas
12:59 <spidey> ^^ wtf
13:00 <spidey> watch me :p
13:00 <wrtlprnft> o_O
13:00 <spidey> i figured it out
13:00 <spidey> i just have to redo it's configuration directories and such
13:00 <spidey> make it work inside the dir instead :/
13:01 <wrtlprnft> remind me that if I ever run any sort of hosting service to not accept you as customer
13:01 <spidey> lol
13:01 <spidey> i wouldn't need it anyways :p
13:02 <spidey> i'll just make my own, simple one o.O
13:02 <spidey> if i don't have to install it, does that count? o.O
13:06 <wrtlprnft> get a rootserver
13:06 <wrtlprnft> and screw it up all you want
13:17 <spidey> lmao
13:17 <spidey> i just got that thing luke sent me
13:17 <spidey> on the edge it has a sticker that says "fragile do not bend"
13:17 <spidey> and it's bent right on that corner o.o
13:21 <wrtlprnft> wow
13:21 <wrtlprnft> talk about peer pressure
13:21 <spidey> ?
13:22 <wrtlprnft> the café is full of people, lots of them in an apparently new clan
13:22 <spidey> screenshot
13:22 <wrtlprnft> then one guy says it's laggy and suggests going to 2020's server
13:22 <spidey> or wait
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13:22 <wrtlprnft> about one minute later, the server's empty except for me and van nelle
13:22 <wrtlprnft> …
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13:23 <spidey> ok
13:23 <spidey> copy/paste that
13:24 <wrtlprnft> 13:22 <wrtlprnft> about one minute later, the server's empty except for me and van nelle
13:24 <wrtlprnft> 13:22 <wrtlprnft> …
13:24 <spidey> rtlprnft> the cafÃ© is full of people, lots of them in an apparently new clan
13:24 <spidey> that one
13:24 <wrtlprnft> 13:22 <wrtlprnft> the café is full of people, lots of them in an apparently new clan
13:25 <spidey> ok
13:25 <spidey> utf-8 enabled now
13:25 <spidey> o.O
13:25 <wrtlprnft> :)
13:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 50GB/month in KB/second
13:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 50 (GB / month) = 19.9368468 KB / second
13:27 <spidey> o.O
13:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 1TB/month in KB/second
13:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 (TB / month) = 408.306623 KB / second
13:27 <spidey> wow
13:27 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 month in days
13:27 <spidey> 25kb/s in GB/month
13:27 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 month = 30.4368499 days
13:28 <spidey> #g 25kb/s in GB/month
13:28 <armabot> spidey: 25 (kb / s) = 7.83724735 GB / month
13:28 <spidey> ..
13:28 <spidey> so if i used my max upstream for 30 days i can only transfer 7.8gb ?
13:28 <wrtlprnft> #g apparently
13:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
13:28 <wrtlprnft> lol
13:29 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 N / 5 A / 12cm
13:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: ((1 N) / (5 A)) / (12 cm) = 1.66666667 tesla
13:30 <wrtlprnft> google's calculator rocks
13:30 <wrtlprnft> MSN can't do that
13:31 <spidey> lol
13:31 <wrtlprnft> though 1.67 tesla is quite a bit
13:31 <wrtlprnft> unrealistic numbers :P
13:33 <spidey> how big
13:33 <spidey> 1 telsa in million
13:33 <wrtlprnft> million what?
13:33 <spidey> dunno
13:34 <wrtlprnft> tesla = Vs/m/m
13:34 <spidey> what's a telsa?
13:34 <spidey> oh
13:34 <spidey> nvm
13:34 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_(unit)
13:40 <spidey> k
13:40 <spidey> i have to find something to play dvds
13:40 <spidey> since luke wants to send me something in dvd-format
13:40 <spidey> :/
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15:10 <spidey> luke-jr|work, that video was much more believable than you ever where
15:11 <spidey> but i'm still not convinced :p
15:11 <spidey> luke-jr|work, oh..and thanks for the card :D
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15:23 <DrJoeTron> #serverdetails cage
15:23 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
15:30 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: wanna play a bit in the tub?
15:31 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v tub
15:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tub” at the moment, sorry.
15:31 <wrtlprnft> ?
15:34 <DrJoeTron> tub isnt up yet
15:34 <DrJoeTron> my friend is really taking his time putting it up
15:34 <spidey> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,20975555-29277,00.html?from=public_rss
15:34 <spidey> o.O.o
15:36 <guru3> that's... lovesly
15:36 <guru3> *lovely
15:36 <spidey> lol
15:36 <spidey> sex kittens!
15:37 <spidey> joe might wanna go find ya a infected women :p
15:40 <spidey> #time
15:40 <armabot> spidey: 03:42 PM, December 27, 2006
15:41 <wrtlprnft> umm, err
15:41 <wrtlprnft> oh, it's PM
15:41 <wrtlprnft> i already thought the time was f**ed up again
15:47 <spidey> lol
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16:16 <DrJoeTron> brb
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18:56 <spidey> man
18:56 <Genki> what?
18:56 <spidey> i'm tired :|
18:57 <Genki> go take a nap then
18:57 <spidey> i don't nap
18:57 <spidey> i hibernat :D
18:57 <spidey> +e
18:57 <Genki> then go hibernate :P
18:57 <spidey> can't
18:57 <Genki> why not?
18:57 <spidey> BOTH dogs are up here with me..if i lay down i'll get a face full of slobber
18:58 <Genki> awww doggies!
18:58 <Genki> lay face down then sipdey
18:58 <spidey> psh
18:59 <Genki> what kind of dogs?
18:59 <spidey> black labs
18:59 <spidey> and a chihuahua
18:59 <Genki> awwww
19:00 <spidey> had a cat, but i think they ate it
19:00 <Genki> eek
19:00 <spidey> btw, luke-jr|work ping
19:00 <Genki> lol
19:01 <Genki> you always say that, why?
19:01 <spidey> i say ping, he says pong when he comes back
19:01 <spidey> #ping
19:01 <armabot> pong
19:01 <Genki> oh ok
19:02 <Genki> now that you mention is spidey
19:02 <spidey> no
19:02 <Genki> #armabot does spidey sleep with a blanket?
19:02 <armabot> Genki: Naturally.
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19:03 <Genki> hahaha
19:03 <ghableska> hello
19:03 <spidey> big fluffy one :D
19:03  * spidey drop kicks ghableska
19:03 <ghableska> 'morning, spidey
19:03 <spidey> ghableska, want a dog?
19:03 <spidey> or two
19:03 <spidey> or three
19:03 <Genki> I want a dog
19:03 <spidey> you can have the outside dogs too
19:03 <ghableska> no thanks
19:03 <Genki> is it blue sipdey?
19:04 <spidey> red
19:04 <spidey> clifferd :D
19:04 <Genki> nice
19:05 <Genki> spidey can I have the little dog?
19:05 <spidey> no
19:05 <spidey> he's the only smart one
19:05 <Genki> lol
19:05 <ghableska> "smart?"
19:05 <Genki> how about the black lab?
19:05 <spidey> as in doesn't tear holes in my wall
19:05 <spidey> that's smart
19:06 <spidey> the others are retards
19:06 <spidey> they ripped the sheet rock off the porch
19:06 <spidey> off the inside
19:06 <ghableska> o.0
19:06 <spidey> and have toor peices of my cabinet off
19:06 <spidey> the "smart" one just lays around all day and growls if the labs gets close to him
19:07 <Genki> spidey send the stupid ones over, then can try and rip up the cactuses
19:07 <Genki> or cacti*
19:07 <Genki> they*
19:07 <spidey> lol
19:07 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:07 <spidey> #cnn 38256
19:07 <Genki> #cnn 85747
19:07 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 44.6°F (11:54 AM CST on December 27, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa. 
19:08 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, TN is 40.0°F. Conditions: Mostly Sunny. Humidity: 69%. Wind: E at 5 mph (8 km/h).
19:08 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Davis Monthan Afb, AZ is 56.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 25%. Wind: SE at 6 mph (10 km/h).
19:08 <spidey> why it says paris i don't know
19:08 <spidey> i actually live inbetween springville and paris
19:08 <spidey> i have a springville zipcode
19:08 <spidey> and a paris phone number
19:08 <ghableska> o.0
19:09 <spidey> heh
19:09 <spidey> but..i do live a 5 minute walk from the tennessee river :D
19:09 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
19:09 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 41.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 52%. Wind: SSE at 12 mph (19 km/h).
19:09 <spidey> #weather 38256
19:09 <armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 43.5°F (12:09 PM CST on December 27, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Rising). 
19:10 <spidey> it's cold :<
19:10 <spidey> if it's gonna be cold...i atleast demand snow
19:10 <spidey> haven't had any yet >:|
19:12 <ghableska> spidey
19:12 <spidey> no
19:12 <ghableska> ?
19:12 <spidey> ??
19:12 <ghableska> do you play tmn anymore? :P
19:12 <spidey> sometimes
19:12 <ghableska> psh
19:12 <spidey> i still have those maps..
19:12 <ghableska> heh
19:12 <spidey> the ones me mom and joe made
19:12 <spidey> lets see
19:13 <spidey> um
19:13 <spidey> shit
19:13 <spidey> shitshitshit
19:13 <ghableska> O_o
19:14 <spidey> FUCK
19:14 <spidey> i deleted the dedicated server folder
19:14 <spidey> OHH
19:14 <spidey> nvm
19:14 <spidey> i'm god
19:14 <spidey> :D
19:15 <spidey> yup, it's still sitting there on my desktop
19:15 <spidey> ;)
19:15  * ghableska doesn't believe in spidey
19:15 <spidey> i still have it :p
19:15 <Genki> good or god?
19:15 <spidey> god! BEST RECONGIZE!
19:16 <Genki> God or god?
19:16 <spidey> god ;/
19:16 <Genki> k
19:17  * Genki is hungry
19:17 <spidey> ghableska, come tuck me in :D
19:17 <ghableska> o_O
19:18 <spidey> how old are you?
19:18 <ghableska> 15
19:18 <spidey> liar :p
19:18 <ghableska> o.0
19:18 <spidey> lizz told me you told her you got your license :p
19:18 <ghableska> permit
19:19 <ghableska> not the full license :P
19:19 <spidey> can't even get those untill 16 here :/
19:19 <ghableska> ha
19:19 <Genki> when do you get your license ghab?
19:19 <ghableska> 16
19:19  * Genki hopes it's not before me
19:19 <spidey> ...
19:19 <spidey> ay
19:19 <spidey> gay
19:20 <Genki> before or after uhh April?
19:20 <spidey> Genki, shush, it's a known fact women can't drive :p
19:20 <ghableska> I don't know.
19:20  * spidey points to a car wrapped around a telephone poll
19:21 <spidey> oh wait
19:21 <Genki> okies, breakfast time
19:21 <spidey> that's ghableska 's car
19:21 <spidey> o.O
19:21 <ghableska> funny
19:21 <spidey> breakfast?
19:21 <spidey> it's 12:30 o.O
19:21 <ghableska> 12.21
19:21 <spidey> stfu :p
19:22 <spidey> ghableska, 
19:23 <ghableska> #armaservers
19:23 <armabot> ghableska: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (14 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (9 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (6 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (6 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | (1 more message)
19:23 <ghableska> #serverdetails ess caf
19:23 <armabot> ghableska: Fortress Café: No online players.
19:24 <spidey> hmm
19:24 <spidey> if i can figure this cgi thing i'ma bring my fortress server back :D
19:25 <Genki> it's 11:30 and yes, I am just now eating breakfast
19:26 <spidey> for the last 4 days my pattern has been
19:26 <spidey> get up at 6am, feed dogs wait for grandma to leave, get high....stay up till the next morning sleep for a day
19:26 <spidey> repeat
19:26 <spidey> o.O
19:30 <spidey> ack
19:30 <spidey> quitting smoking is harder than it was the first 3 days :<
19:31 <spidey> made it 3 days with out a cigarette....now it's like
19:31 <spidey> ARGH!
19:33 <DrJoeTron> if you quit smoking
19:33 <DrJoeTron> you're a pussy
19:33 <DrJoeTron> :)
19:33 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: you suck
19:33 <spidey> if you don't get laid within the next 2 weeks
19:34 <spidey> you're  a fag
19:34 <ghableska> you made me play CS for 15 hours straight :/
19:34 <spidey> haha
19:34 <ghableska> on the same map
19:34 <DrJoeTron> thas brutal ghableska 
19:34 <DrJoeTron> which one
19:34 <ghableska> although cs_office is pretty fun
19:34 <DrJoeTron> I love cs_office
19:35 <DrJoeTron> de_dust and de_dust2 are pretty good but are over played
19:35 <ghableska> I found a 32 player server that isn't filled with bots :D
19:35 <DrJoeTron> I like aztec
19:35 <DrJoeTron> and de_inferno
19:35 <ghableska> there was a server where the terrorists would ride santa's sleigh O_o
19:35 <DrJoeTron> and assault
19:35 <DrJoeTron> assault is based on chicago on source :D
19:35 <ghableska> :P
19:36 <DrJoeTron> ive been playing the new zelda
19:36 <DrJoeTron> 4 hours to get the sword and shield!?
19:36 <ghableska> wii?
19:36 <DrJoeTron> 3 hours*
19:36 <DrJoeTron> yeah I got the wii version
19:36 <DrJoeTron> much more responsive than the gc one
19:36 <DrJoeTron> its alot of fun
19:36 <DrJoeTron> I've played it for about three and a half hours so far
19:36 <ghableska> have you broken your tv screen/windows/someone's nose yet? :P
19:37  * DrJoeTron hasn't been completely hammered
19:37 <DrJoeTron> playing it
19:37 <DrJoeTron> although!
19:37 <DrJoeTron> one of my friends almost took out the ceiling fan
19:37 <ghableska> haha
19:37 <DrJoeTron> fucking gorilla
19:37 <ghableska> the wrist straps are that bad?
19:37 <DrJoeTron> not at all
19:38 <DrJoeTron> it didnt fly out of his hands
19:38 <DrJoeTron> he just swung to high
19:38 <DrJoeTron> too*
19:38  * DrJoeTron notes that you don't need much more than simple flicks of the wiimote to get something to do anything.
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19:39 <spidey> #night
19:39 <armabot> Good night spidey!
19:39 <Commn> there is a penny arcade comic
19:39 <DrJoeTron> my arm is sore from baseball :d
19:39 <Commn> about not swinging your arms
19:39 <DrJoeTron> haha yeah
19:39 <ghableska> spidey?
19:39 <spidey> ?
19:39 <DrJoeTron> makes you look like a toolbox :p
19:39 <ghableska> you're going to bed?
19:39 <DrJoeTron> spidey, its noon
19:39 <spidey> nah, i said #night cause i'm bored
19:39 <ghableska> not midnight
19:39 <spidey> so
19:39 <spidey> i've been up forever
19:39 <DrJoeTron> theres only one thing I cannot stand about the wii
19:40 <DrJoeTron> wiiconnect24
19:40 <ghableska> hmm?
19:40 <DrJoeTron> it makes it so the wii is contantly hooked up to the internet
19:40 <DrJoeTron> and well
19:40 <ghableska> oh
19:40 <DrJoeTron> when the wii is shut off
19:40 <DrJoeTron> the fan shuts off
19:40 <spidey> really?
19:40 <DrJoeTron> so it just idle's and gets really hot
19:41 <DrJoeTron> someone marked it at 112 degrees
19:41 <DrJoeTron> hotter than a mac book pro :p
19:41 <DrJoeTron> soo I just took made it so it completely idles
19:41 <DrJoeTron> Ive made 62 mii characters so far :D
19:42 <DrJoeTron> brb
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20:03 <Commn> #serverinfo team sumo
20:03 <Commn> come hays :)
20:03 <armabot> Commn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (12/12): .dBd|KINGO-TRON, Blitz, Kamakazi, M&Ms, upacreek, [G3] Bishop, {Super} Duck!, ~*Omega*~, ~*Pyroto.Gfx*~, ~*SP*~ D3M0N, ~*SP*~viper~, °¯AshitakA
20:03 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
20:03 <ghableska> connection problems over? :P
20:03 <Vanhayes> hopefully
20:04 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails -v team sumo
20:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (81.169.143.153:4539) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, Description: “Sumo but with teams.  (hosted on steammachine)“, Players (10/12): .dBd|KINGO-TRON, Blitz, Kamakazi, M&Ms, upacreek, Zero, {Super} Duck!, ~*Pyroto.Gfx*~, ~*SP*~viper~, °¯AshitakA
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20:08 <Commn> does that sumo team server place colors in negatives? good idea
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20:15 <spidey> damn it
20:16 <spidey> when i try to sleep
20:16 <spidey> the dogs jump on the bed
20:16 <spidey> luke-jr_work, ping
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20:32 <spidey> #serverinfo team sumo
20:32 <armabot> spidey: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (11/12): Blitz, free kill, Kamakazi, Podnoktyam's, wrtlprnft |mbc|, Zero, ¦×¥ $µazero, ¦×¥ FoFo, °¯Manta, °¯redice, °°@shitakA
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20:35 <spidey> omg
20:35 <spidey> that fucking
20:35 <spidey> sync error
20:35 <Commn> lol
20:35 <spidey> that's really gay
20:36 <spidey> only way to get in is to use windowed mode
20:36 <spidey> then fullscreen after you join
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20:54 <luke-jr_work> spidey: wtf u want
21:08 <spidey> lol
21:08 <spidey> luke-jr_work, that video explains better than you ever did
21:08 <spidey> BUT
21:09 <spidey> it's still based on "one mans beliefs"
21:09 <spidey> and thanks for the card :p
21:19 <luke-jr_work> spidey: it's based on reality
21:19 <luke-jr_work> and plenty of witnesses
21:20 <spidey> lol
21:20 <Vanhayes> #lastseen Vanhayes 
21:22 <armabot> Vanhayes: timed out
21:22 <Vanhayes> hmm, maybe I should use my name again
21:23 <spidey> luke-jr_work, so, you agree with him the world is no older than 10k years?
21:23 <luke-jr_work> 6000
21:23 <spidey> i say
21:23 <spidey> bullshit :D
21:24 <luke-jr_work> well, it's true
21:25 <spidey> and
21:25 <Vanhayes> #luke
21:25 <armabot> stfu, baka noob?? RTFM??
21:25 <spidey> dinosaurs are lizards
21:25 <spidey> giant lizards
21:25 <wrtlprnft> wow, nice server
21:25 <luke-jr_work> ...
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21:26 <Vanhayes1> ya I like it too
21:27 <spidey> ..
21:27 <ghableska> what server?
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21:27 <Vanhayes> team sumo one
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21:36 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails team sumo
21:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (9/12): ?????, Archetype, Blitz, Kamakazi, Lithium, Red, {Super} Duck!, |HTF|HuNtEr, ¦×¥ $µazero
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22:45 <spidey> o.O
22:46 <Abhor> O.o
22:48 <spidey> o.O.o
22:48 <Abhor> O.o.O
22:48 <guru3> spidey: shouldn't it be o.O.O.O.O.O.O.o
22:48 <spidey> guru3, make me some cookies :D
22:48 <Abhor> me too
22:49 <spidey> chacolete
22:49 <spidey> :D
22:49 <Abhor> chocolate
22:49 <spidey> that to
22:49  * guru3 shuts up
22:49 <Abhor> and chewy
22:49 <Abhor> not hard
22:49 <Abhor> or burnt
22:49  * spidey pokes guru3
22:50  * Abhor pokes spidey
22:50  * Abhor pokes guru3
22:50  * spidey smacks Abhor
22:50  * Abhor slaps spidey
22:50  * Abhor squishes spidey
22:51 <Abhor> 0.o
22:52 <spidey> can't squish me
22:52 <Abhor> wanna bet?
22:52 <spidey> i'm superspidey
22:52 <spidey> who's you? :p
22:52 <Abhor> Abhor
22:54 <Abhor> 0.0
22:55 <spidey> o.o
22:57 <Abhor> @.@
23:13 <Lucifer_arma> #cnn 78717
23:13 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Round Rock, TX is 64.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 27%. Wind: S at 18 mph (29 km/h).
23:16 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
23:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 21°F / -6°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM AST; Tonight - Flurries ending this evening then clearing. Wind northwest 20 km/h. Low minus 12.; Thursday - Sunny. Wind northwest 20 km/h. High minus 5. Thursday night..clear. Low minus 17.; Friday - Sunny. High minus 6.;
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23:50 <Vanhayes> #armaserver
23:50 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
23:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: Norm's Place (11 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (10 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (5 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (4 players) || .Tronners|.in|.Pyjamas|.High-rubber|TiP-Clan.De.ms (4 players) || The Tavern (4 players) || Unnamed Server (3 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (3 players) || Luke-Jr's test (1 more message)
23:50 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails team sumo
23:50 <armabot> Vanhayes: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: No online players.
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00:25  * luke-jr at airport again
00:25 <luke-jr> :p
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00:54 <ghableska> hello
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00:55 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
00:56 <ghableska> hi Vanhayes
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01:50 <Lucifer_arma> man, harmonica's hard
01:51 <ghableska> heh
01:51 <ghableska> have you learned any songs yet?
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> sure :)
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> no single notes yet, though.  Working on that right now
01:51 <Lucifer_arma> but I just played amazing grace a few times, I want to memorize that one.  And Home on the Range.
01:52  * ghableska checks what Wikipedia has to say about harmonicas
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> naturally I want to play more blues/rock stuff, but all the free tabs I'm finding are these.  :)  So I'll work with what's there, at some point I'll generate some midi accompaniment and work with that
01:52 <Lucifer_arma> I have a 10-hole E harmonica.  Same with my kids.  Had we known then what I have learned since, I'd have directed my wife to C harmonicas instead.
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> but I have to work with the harmonica I have, not the one I think she should've bought ;)
01:53 <ghableska> heh
01:53 <ghableska> what's the difference?
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> key
01:53 <ghableska> oh
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> the 10-hole diatonic harmonicas only play notes in the major scale they're keyed for
01:53 <Lucifer_arma> you can get chromatic harmonicas that play all 12 notes in an octave, but that's not what's used for blues/rock
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> instead, in blues and rock they use the diatonic harmonicas, C or G, and they bend notes to get the extras to fill in
01:54 <ghableska> ah
01:54 <Lucifer_arma> but you have to have single notes before you can bend them, and before you have that you need to be able to play *something*  :)
01:54  * Lucifer_arma has learned a lot about harmonicas the last few days
01:55 <ghableska> heh
01:55 <Lucifer_arma> from movies, though, I think home on the range and amazing grace are harmonica standards that I just need to know :)
01:55 <ghableska> haha
01:56 <Lucifer_arma> an E harmonica might be good for metal, all things considered
01:57 <Lucifer_arma> it would also be cool to be a blues player that uses a completely non-standard harmonica for it
02:04 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:04 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 44.6°F (6:54 PM CST on December 27, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa. 
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03:31 <DrJoeTron> http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4346&p=13 :D arma clans should be in here
03:31 <ghableska> haha
03:33 <ghableska> Ninja-Panda clan. hahaha
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05:03 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I should try to play "Wherever I may Roam" on my harmonica
05:05 <Lucifer_arma> sounds kinda weird
05:05  * Lucifer_arma thinks he needs to learn how to bend notes to get it out right
05:06  * Lucifer_arma should stop before he wakes his kids up
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05:59 <Lucifer_arma> wow, godtodd's not here.  He must be driving home right now.
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06:25 <Lucifer_arma> We do not accept science fiction, erotica, westerns, horror, romance, or children's stories.  <-- Then what *do* you accept?
06:26 <Commn> lol
06:26 <Commn> what site is that?
06:26 <Commn> blocking porn
06:27 <Commn> comedy ,documentary ,a nd .... ;p
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06:50 <chipdip> 'ello 'ello
06:54 <chipdip> Dont you just love it when you wake up to a kernel panic?
06:54 <chipdip> :(
06:55 <chipdip> Time for some German Gothic/Techno/Rap
07:09 <Commn> i dont like how kernel panic blinks keyboard lights :P
07:10 <chipdip> haha
07:10 <chipdip> I dont believe I have ever noticed that
07:12 <chipdip> Although, my keyboard has no numlock/capslock/scrollock lights
07:12 <chipdip> bah
07:16 <chipdip> <Edi> ChipDip :( I'm worried about my boa
07:16 <chipdip> <Edi> I've gotten attached to him
07:16 <chipdip> <Edi> He replaced my one that died last week
07:16 <chipdip> <Edi> Losing another would be too much :((
07:16 <chipdip> * sniper22 has quit (Quit: )
07:16 <chipdip> <Edi> :((
07:16 <chipdip> <Edi> I'm gunna give Azule kisses and hugs when I find him
07:16 <chipdip> <Edi> :D
07:17 <chipdip> <Edi> And never let him go :((
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> ah
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> I am not familiar with Azule
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> But have fun with that
07:17 <chipdip> <Edi> ...
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> ...?
07:17 <chipdip> <Edi> Azule is my lost boa :((
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> oh
07:17 <chipdip> <Edi> I've overturned everything in 2/3rds of the apartment and still can't find him
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> Wait
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> you have a boa in your apartment
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> somewhere?
07:17 <chipdip> <chipdip> great...
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07:25 <Durka> #hello
07:25 <chipdip> 'ello 'ello
07:25 <Durka> hello chipdip??? (/me doesn't know who that is :()
07:26 <chipdip> :P
07:26 <chipdip> Hello then
07:26 <chipdip> I am chipdip
07:26 <chipdip> you know
07:26 <chipdip> The Dip Bowl?
07:26 <chipdip> gah
07:26 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: On a paper submitted by a physicist colleague: || "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." || -- Wolfgang Pauli
07:27 <Durka> lol ok
07:27 <chipdip> :{
07:27 <Durka> :p
07:27 <chipdip> <chipdip> Well, I cant see how a boa can get OUT of an apartment
07:27 <chipdip> <Edi> Yeah
07:27 <chipdip> <Edi> But I ahve two cats in the apartment
07:27 <chipdip> <Edi> Thats what I'm worried about
07:27 <chipdip> hahahahaha
07:27 <chipdip> this is so funny
07:27 <chipdip> she is screwed
07:27 <chipdip> 2 boas v. 2 cats
07:28 <Durka> ?
07:28 <chipdip> heh
07:28 <chipdip> irc.hackerslegion.com
07:28 <chipdip> #lehchat
07:28 <chipdip> its so funny
07:29 <Durka> ok lol
07:29 <chipdip> heh
07:29 <chipdip> so you dont know me, eh?
07:30 <chipdip> Well, where I live, its 1:30AM
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12:03  * spidey yawns
12:03 <spidey> #time
12:03 <armabot> spidey: 12:03 PM, December 28, 2006
13:12 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.comstockcards.com/write_guide.htm
13:14  * spidey yawns
13:16 <Lucifer_arma> $50-$100 for greeting cards!
13:17 <spidey> ...
13:17 <spidey> i can make them
13:18 <spidey> oh
13:18 <spidey> that's for ideas
13:18 <spidey> nvm
13:18 <Lucifer_arma> you just write up the text, they'll have their own cartoonists draw them
13:18 <spidey> EENEY, MEENEY, MINEY, MOE....PICK THE ONE YOU WANT TO BLOW!  <--lmao
13:19 <Lucifer_arma> Sooo.... like "Roses are red, violets are blue, my birthday was last month, you forgot it, fuck you!"
13:19  * Lucifer_arma wonders if that card would actually sell
13:19 <Lucifer_arma> #g 0.06 * 25000
13:19 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.06 * 25,000 = 1,500
13:19 <Lucifer_arma> that's not bad, $1500 for a book
13:20 <Lucifer_arma> if 25,000 words is a book
13:21 <Lucifer_arma> #g 0.09 * 25000
13:21 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.09 * 25,000 = 2,250
13:36 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.pimpwiz.com/2006/06/6-sex-secrets-to-keep-your-girl.shtml  <--- you mean some people weren't born with this knowledge?
13:36 <spidey> lol
13:38 <Lucifer_arma> seriously, I read "the difference between fireworks and explosions" and thought I could do more for my wife, so clicked to see what was up
13:38 <Lucifer_arma> and got a bunch of shit I've already been over hundreds of times.  :/
13:38 <Lucifer_arma> I'm guessing the article's targetted for 20yo single men, which I'm not.
13:48 <spidey> well
13:48 <spidey> i'm sure there's something for middle-aged men :p
13:49 <Lucifer_arma> nah.  most tips for men who've been married for 10+ years ccan only be found in women's magazines, ironically
13:50 <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should try to find a men's magazine that'll take tips I have to give
13:51 <Lucifer_arma> wow, playboy pays up to $1/word
13:55 <spidey> well
13:55 <spidey> they are rich
13:56 <spidey> $25,000 is like pocket change to them
14:12 <Lucifer_arma> true, but word counts listed are only around 2000, which is pretty standard
14:12 <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately, I have a hard time fitting into a space that small :)
14:13 <Lucifer_arma> Woman's Day pays $2k for a 600 word essay
14:14 <spidey> are you a woman?
14:14 <Lucifer_arma> you don't have to be a woman to write it, it just has to matter to women
14:14 <spidey> hell, i could do a 600 word essay in 4-5 hours
14:14 <spidey> maybe sooner
14:14 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I wonder if I could throw together a "what men don't like about women" article that they'd take
14:16 <spidey> #g 35 C in F
14:16 <armabot> spidey: 35 degrees Celsius = 95 degrees Fahrenheit
14:16 <spidey> #g 65 C in F
14:16 <spidey> 	   Temperature, Operating (°C)   	5 to 35
14:16 <spidey> 	
14:16 <spidey> 	  Temperature, Nonoperating (°C)   	-40 to 65
14:17 <spidey> how can it be hotter when not operating?
14:17 <armabot> spidey: 65 degrees Celsius = 149 degrees Fahrenheit
14:17 <spidey> #g -65 C in F
14:17 <armabot> spidey: (-65) degrees Celsius = -85 degrees Fahrenheit
14:26 <spidey> hm
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14:26 <Lucifer_arma> leave it in your car
14:26 <spidey> #g 29kb/s /8
14:26 <armabot> spidey: (29 (kilobits / second)) / 8 = 464 bytes per second
14:27 <spidey> #g 29 / 3 * 8
14:27 <armabot> spidey: (29 / 3) * 8 = 77.3333333
14:27 <spidey> er
14:27 <spidey> w/e
14:46 <yojimbo> I like to play with my tron.
14:52 <Lucifer_arma> I like to pump up my arma with needles and shit.
14:53 <Lucifer_arma> considering the fact that women's magazines tend to pay more than other magazines, I think I'm going to have to get my wife to either feed me with topics (and edit my writing) or write herself
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14:55 <Lucifer_arma> hey joe, where you going with that gun in your hand?
14:58 <DrJoeTron> I'm going off to shoot my own lady
14:59 <DrJoeTron> because I dont like her
15:25 <Lucifer_arma> THIS CARD IS SO LATE...I FORGOT WHAT THE FUCK IT WAS FOR!
15:34 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(14*14 + 9*9)
15:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt((14 * 14) + (9 * 9)) = 16.643317
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16:56 <madmax|pt> hi
17:06 <madmax|pt> #lastseen webgamer
17:07 <armabot> madmax|pt: WebGamer has last been seen on Fortress Café 6 days 13 hours 46 minutes ago.
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17:42 <madmax|pt> hi ghableska 
17:42 <ghableska> hi madmax|pt
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18:09 <ghableska> #weather 50265
18:10 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 44.6°F (10:54 AM CST on December 28, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 39.2°F. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa. 
18:11 <DrJoeTron> it supposed to rain a little bit tomorrow :d
18:11 <DrJoeTron> in des moines
18:11 <DrJoeTron> the wii says so :D
18:11 <ghableska> how do you know that? :P
18:11 <ghableska> it does the weather too?
18:11 <DrJoeTron> yeah
18:11 <DrJoeTron> nice useless feature
18:11 <ghableska> O_o
18:11 <ghableska> lol
18:12 <DrJoeTron> and you can spin the globe and crap
18:12 <ghableska> haha
18:12 <DrJoeTron> the UV index is low /;d
18:12 <ghableska> thanks for informing me about that...
18:12 <ghableska> I'm sure it'll be useful...sometime
18:12 <DrJoeTron> or
18:12 <DrJoeTron> never
18:13 <ghableska> what games do you have for it?
18:13 <DrJoeTron> wii sports, zelda
18:13 <DrJoeTron> thena  bunch of VC games
18:13 <ghableska> wii sports?
18:13 <DrJoeTron> bomberman 93, toejam and earl, gunstar heros, sonic the hedgehog, and zelda
18:13 <DrJoeTron> yeah
18:13 <DrJoeTron> wii sports comes with the system
18:13 <ghableska> what sports?
18:14 <DrJoeTron> tennis, baseball, bowling, boxing, golf
18:14 <ghableska> ah
18:14 <DrJoeTron> golf is soo incredibly lame
18:14 <DrJoeTron> the rest are just :D
18:15 <DrJoeTron> the fun part is with the system
18:15 <DrJoeTron> you make these things called mii's
18:15 <ghableska> what are they?
18:15 <DrJoeTron> which are little characters that you base off of people
18:15 <ghableska> heh
18:15 <DrJoeTron> like I make myself as one
18:15 <DrJoeTron> then you realize making celebrities and infamous mad men is just as fun
18:16 <ghableska> :P
18:16 <DrJoeTron> my friends and I have made 62 of them
18:16 <DrJoeTron> on this systme
18:16 <ghableska> http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/10/mii.swf <-- like that?
18:16 <DrJoeTron> yup
18:17 <DrJoeTron> and then wii sports uses them in the game
18:17 <ghableska> cool
18:17 <DrJoeTron> so you can have legendary fights like adolf hitler vs anne frank
18:17 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
18:17 <ghableska> haah
18:17 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
18:17 <DrJoeTron> john wayne gacy vs bing crosby
18:17 <DrJoeTron> :D
18:17 <spidey> what's the conversion for kbps => kb/s?
18:19 <spidey> HMM
18:19 <spidey> -caps
18:19 <spidey> i'ma have a static ip to
18:19 <spidey> hope i can change them >.>
18:42 <DrJoeTron> ghableska, goldeneye source came out :D
18:42 <ghableska> ooh, nice 
18:42 <DrJoeTron> eh.
18:42 <DrJoeTron> it plays like a beta
18:42  * ghableska played on a zombie map last night
18:43 <ghableska> it was fun :D
18:43 <DrJoeTron> or like a 64 game being played on a pc
18:43 <DrJoeTron> zombies rule D
18:43 <DrJoeTron> it doesnt really work on this game
18:43 <DrJoeTron> think about it
18:43 <ghableska> heh
18:43 <DrJoeTron> 16 people on a 4 player map?
18:43 <ghableska> easy kills :P
18:44 <DrJoeTron> haha
18:44 <ghableska> heh
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19:07 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: ping
19:10 <DrJoeTron> yo
19:11 <ghableska> cs?
19:11 <DrJoeTron> nah
19:11 <ghableska> aww, ok
19:11 <DrJoeTron> in the forest temple in zelda "D
19:11 <ghableska> haha
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19:26 <Commn> #serverinfo team sumo
19:26 <armabot> Commn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (4/12): Boschti, Kamakazi, Lazer, {SOLID}foX
19:33 <Abhor> #serverinfo wild
19:33 <armabot> Abhor: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (7/14): -|ct|- play, almost, Legionnaire, mama, Sp@@dn3k, TSoT_MuRi, ^_^.exe
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19:56 <armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r6543 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/tron/cockpit/cCockpit.cpp: Fixed an error where zones (and sometimes cycles) would be rendered without depth checking enabled. Thanks to voodoo for reporting the bug.
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23:00 <Vanhayes_> #ping
23:00 <armabot> pong
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23:38 <ghableska> hello
23:41 <wrtlprnft> hi
23:41 <Vanhayes> hey ghableska 
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23:46 <wrtlprnft> hi²
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23:46 <wrtlprnft> hi³
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23:47 <ghableska_> grr
23:47 <Vanhayes> lol
23:47 <wrtlprnft> hi ²²
23:47 <ghableska_> hi again
23:49 <ghableska_> My internet is freaking out, brb.
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23:55 <ghableska_> hi (again)
23:55 <wrtlprnft> o well
23:55 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:56 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!

Log from 2006-12-29:
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00:03 <ghableska_> #weather 50265
00:03 <armabot> ghableska_: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 46.4°F (4:54 PM CST on December 28, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa. 
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00:13 <ghableska> #ircstats
00:13 <armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
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00:14 <TiTnAsS> omg
00:14 <TiTnAsS> its so impossible to roulette now days
00:14 <TiTnAsS> O_O
00:14 <TiTnAsS> half people know it
00:14 <TiTnAsS> half dont
00:14 <TiTnAsS> half refuse to do it o.o
00:15 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:16 <ghableska> #roulette
00:16 <armabot> ghableska: *click*
00:20 <TiTnAsS> ?
00:20 <TiTnAsS> ..
00:20 <TiTnAsS> o.o
00:21 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:21 <armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
00:21 <Vanhayes> #roulette
00:21 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
00:21  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:21 <Vanhayes> aw its funnier when armabot has op
00:22 <ghableska> yeah :P
00:30 <TiTnAsS>  /kicks
00:30 <TiTnAsS> lol
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01:01 <Vanhayes> heh conection troubles ghableska ?
01:02 <ghableska> yeah :/
01:02 <ghableska> not nearly as bad as yours yesterday :)
01:08 <Vanhayes> heh at least no i can kill them all
01:08 <ghableska> heh
01:11 <Vanhayes> now*
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03:09 <Commn> #serverinfo cafe
03:09 <armabot> Commn: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ¦Ö¦$µbzero
03:09 <Commn> #lastseen durka
03:10 <armabot> Commn: Durka has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 20 hours 0 minutes ago.
03:11 <ghableska> #serverdetails styball
03:11 <armabot> ghableska: Chico's Brake Boost Styball: Players (7/8): Billseph, g unot, loops, lulejko, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, Taz, {Super} Kyle!
03:11 <Commn> #serverdetails team sumo
03:11 <armabot> Commn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (4/12): 1200, Josh·	~*$P*~<y<, Kamakazi, ~*SP*~PsYkO
03:17 <Commn> #serverdetails cafe
03:17 <armabot> Commn: Fortress Café: No online players.
03:25 <Commn> #serverdetails cafe
03:25 <armabot> Commn: Fortress Café: No online players.
03:27 <ghableska> ...
03:40 <Commn> #serverdetails cafe
03:40 <armabot> Commn: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): -|ct|- play, Ðúrkå	Sky, featherfcuk, Kamakazi, MaZe, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, Taz
03:44 <Commn> #serverdetails cafe
03:44 <armabot> Commn: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): -|ct|- play, covi, Ðûqkå, featherfcuk, Jesus, Kamakazi, MaZe, Sky, SuBlImInAl.FreQ
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04:06 <Commn> #serverdetails cafe
04:06 <armabot> Commn: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): Ðúrkå	Kamakazi, Homelessville, Josh·, MaZe, Sky, SuBlImInAl.FreQ, ~*SP*~PsYkO
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04:24 <Commn> #serverdetails team sumo
04:24 <armabot> Commn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: No online players.
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05:06 -!- Arma18 is now known as Durka
05:06 <Durka> #hello
05:06 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: According to Kentucky state law, every person must take a bath at least || once a year.
05:07 <Durka> about 100 more lines and I'm in the top 25 O_O
05:08 <Durka> o_O *
05:08 <Durka> is Tank here?
05:08 <Durka> paying attention that is
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> type his name and see if he answers
05:23 <Lucifer_arma> where the fuck is godtodd?
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from GodTodd
05:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [10:44:51] <GodTodd> were you taking a wii, joe?
05:29 <Lucifer_arma> #seen GodTodd
05:29 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: GodTodd was last seen in #armagetron 2 days, 18 hours, 44 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <GodTodd> were you taking a wii, joe?
05:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's an annoying bug
05:47 <luke-jr> what bug?
05:50 <Durka>  
05:51 <Durka> #hello again
05:51 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: If it is a Miracle, any sort of evidence will answer, but if it is a Fact, || proof is necessary. || -- Samuel Clemens
05:51 <Durka> #last--from guru3
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from guru3
05:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [22:49:26] * guru3 shuts up
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> #seen guru3
05:53 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: guru3 was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 7 hours, 4 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: * guru3 shuts up
05:56 <Durka> eww bad bug
05:56 <Durka> i see it
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05:59 <Durka> yo jo
05:59 <DrJoeTron> hu
05:59 <Lucifer_arma> aha, user error bug
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> I put in a new transaction and it was earlier than the one that was already there, but the list didn't resort right away
06:00 <Lucifer_arma> when it did, I found myself editing the wrong one :/
06:01 <Durka> lol
06:03  * Durka smacks guru3 (god dammit wake up! :p)
06:03 <Durka> #nick Durka-away_until_6amGMT
06:03 <armabot> Durka: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:03 <Durka> oops
06:04 -!- Durka is now known as Durka-away_until
06:04  * Durka-away_until away
06:04 -!- Durka-away_until is now known as Durka-away
06:04 <Durka-away> oops i closed my laptop
06:04 <Durka-away> :p
06:06 <luke-jr> ...
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06:38 <Durka-away> #whoami
06:38 <armabot> Durka-away: I don't recognize you.
06:38 <Durka-away> lmao
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08:44 <Durka-away> genki!
08:45 -!- Durka-away is now known as Durka
08:45 <Durka> u there?
08:45 <Genki> where?
08:46 <Durka> ok
08:46 <Durka> so genki would u like me to make u a forum
08:46 <Genki> ok?
08:46 <Genki> heck yes!
08:46 <Durka> did u read my pm to u
08:46 <Durka> cuz forumer sucks balls
08:46 <Genki> yeah about half an hour ago
08:47 <Durka> ok
08:47 <Genki> I found out as much
08:47 <Durka> well i saw the skin u picked for the forumer one
08:47 <Durka> and would you like something like this -> http://tui.owns.it
08:47 <Durka> its the TuI skin
08:47 <Genki> cool ^_^
08:47 <Durka> ill give u the choices
08:48 <Genki> okies
08:48 <Genki> btw, what time is it where you're at?
08:49 <Durka> 11 49
08:49 <Durka> any of the ones that say 1.5 or 1.53
08:49 <Durka> http://www.phpbb2.de/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=22
08:49 <Durka> or the theme on that page
08:50 <Durka> look thru them
08:50 <Genki> okies, do I need to choose now or can you keep helping without theskin?
08:50 <Genki> 11:49pm?
08:54 <Genki> hmm RT Red or FI Blue...
08:55 <Genki> The Red is calling ^_^ http://www.phpbb2.de/dload.php?action=file&file_id=621
08:58 <Genki> wait wait - http://www.phpbb2.de/dload.php?action=file&file_id=600
08:59 <Genki> you should have never let me choose lol
08:59 <Durka> which one
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> flip a coin
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> #flip
08:59 <Genki> http://www.phpbb2.de/dload.php?action=file&file_id=600
08:59 <Lucifer_arma> #coin
08:59 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: tails
08:59 <Genki> haha
08:59 <Durka> i do all the mods on the template
08:59 <Genki> hey Lucifer
08:59 <Durka> so pick one :p
09:00 <Genki> I did!
09:00 <Genki> http://www.phpbb2.de/dload.php?action=file&file_id=600
09:00 <Durka> DONT CALL HIM LUCIFER!
09:00 <Durka> it's Luci :p
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> why?
09:00 <Genki> lmao
09:00 <Genki> ut to say that
09:00 <Durka> or Lucifer underscore arma
09:00 <Genki> I was about*
09:00 <Genki> I could call him Sir
09:00 <Lucifer_arma> z-man calls me Lucifer...
09:00 <Genki> or Mr
09:00 <Genki> sorry but super mista magic man has been taken
09:00 <Durka> lol
09:01 <Durka> How's Z-man and Z-woman doing?
09:01  * Durka looks for Z-kid
09:01 <Genki> haha
09:01 <Lucifer_arma> still vacationing in the land of the lesbians, I believe
09:01 <Durka> lol
09:01 <Durka> genki: u want the black w/ orange skin?
09:01 <Durka> http://tui.owns.it
09:01 <Durka> that one? ^^^
09:02 <Genki> I dunno, whatever one I was looking at lol
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> "lol" is not a full stop!
09:02 <Genki> oh my apologizes
09:02 <Genki> .
09:02 <Lucifer_arma> ty
09:03 <Genki> yw
09:03 <Genki> .
09:03 <Genki> http://www.phpbb2.de/dload.php?action=file&file_id=600 - that one
09:03  * Genki pokes Durka to make sure he's paying attention
09:03 <Durka> o the black 3d
09:03 <Durka> so the black with yellow
09:03 <Genki> yeppers
09:04 <Durka> :(
09:04 <Genki> the red just kinda hurt my eyes after awhile lol
09:04 <Genki> lmao
09:04 <Genki> You ok Durka?
09:04 <Durka> that one is the |x| site but instead of blue writing everywhere...its gold
09:04 <Durka> http://xclan.freehostia.com/portal.php
09:05 <Durka> picture that but with the gold writing
09:05 <Genki> yeah I know, I don't want my exactly the same
09:05 <Durka> ok
09:05 <Genki> I'm ON that forum Durka lol
09:05 <Genki> I'm the spammer :-D
09:05 <Genki> well... ex-spammer
09:05 <Durka> and do u want a .freehostia.com
09:05 <Durka> are u gonna buy a site for u
09:05 <Durka> or u want http://genki.freehostia.com
09:06 <Genki> the freehostia works for me
09:06 <Durka> ok
09:06 <Genki> and my butt hurts, it's past my bedtime
09:06  * Durka is thinking about putting genki on the same ftp as |x| clan
09:06 <Durka> but alex will hack into ur files :(
09:06 <Durka> hmmm
09:07  * Genki is totally clueless about ftp
09:07 <Durka> ok ill put up the site with that template
09:07 <Durka> good thing is ill copy the files from the |x| site
09:07 <Durka> basically the same templates
09:07 <Genki> okies
09:07  * Genki has no clue what Durka is talking about
09:07 <Durka> gimme about 5 minutes and I'll get the site up with a template
09:08 <Genki> ok ^_^
09:08 <Genki> no rush
09:08 <Genki> I'll just... take a nap at my laptop... cause it's past 1am.
09:08 <Durka> lol
09:09 <Durka> it doesnt take long
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> I hate it when I find transactions for electronics stores and I can't remember getting any new electronics gadgets recently
09:09 <Durka> lmao
09:09 <Genki> haha
09:09  * Durka stole lucis cc
09:09 <Durka> shhh
09:09 <Lucifer_arma> what can you get at Fry's for $56?
09:09 <Genki> haha
09:09 <Durka> a bunch of stuff
09:09 <Durka> frys is the shit
09:09 <Genki> I live right behind Fry's...
09:09  * Durka is replacing the xS clan site with Genki's :)
09:10 <Genki> haha
09:10 <Durka> lol
09:10  * Genki wonders why Durka is doing this
09:10 <Durka> xS is over
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> it's right before the semester ended
09:10 <Lucifer_arma> I'll have to ask my wife in the morning
09:11 <Genki> maybe she bought you something
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> I remember going in there, though!
09:11 <Genki> haha
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> and even standing in line, showing my receipt
09:11 <Lucifer_arma> everything but whatever it was I actually bought
09:11  * Genki wonders why Sir is so talkative now
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> ?
09:12  * Lucifer_arma is usually pretty talkative in here
09:12  * Genki never sees Sir talking
09:12 <Lucifer_arma> just that it's been christmas and I've been assembling toys, playing games, running around, etc
09:12  * Genki until now
09:12 <Genki> o
09:12 <Genki> okies
09:13 <Lucifer_arma> probably just when you're here.  I'm here at different times
09:13 <Durka> a lot of ppl idle in here
09:13 <Genki> probably
09:13 <Genki> mhmm
09:13 <Durka> like kama...hes always idle
09:13 <Durka> and dook
09:13 <Durka> and luke
09:13 <Durka> and wrtl
09:13 <Durka> and darkstar
09:13 <Genki> nah not wrtl
09:13 <Durka> and tank
09:13 <Genki> I talk to him ^_^
09:13 <Genki> tank is never idle
09:13 <Durka> sometimes joe
09:14 <Durka> and of course...our favorite! armabot
09:14 <Genki> lol
09:14 <Durka> luci: where's Luci_bot
09:14 <Lucifer_arma> Luci_bot was the test nick I used before armabot was created
09:15 <Durka> if genki stayed active here, she would pass ur line count and be #1 on the irc stats
09:15 <Durka> she has over 1,000 lines already
09:15 <Genki> haha
09:15 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, but all her quotes would be something like "I love to lick balls" and crap
09:15 <Durka> lmao
09:15 <Genki> that's true
09:15 <Durka> luci has only 56,000 lines
09:15 <Durka> im 2 away from the top 25
09:15  * Durka wants to see what his quote is :)
09:16 <Lucifer_arma> you'll be surprised how long it takes to get that many lines
09:16 <Genki> lol
09:16 <Durka> actually im probably now in the top 25
09:16 <Durka> genki: u have over 1000 lines in about a week right?
09:16 <Durka> lmao
09:16 <Durka> so aboutu 1 year to catch up to luci
09:16 <Durka> about*
09:16 <Genki> well I'm not even active all the time
09:17 <Genki> and mostly I just talk to tank
09:17 <Genki> or slap spidey around
09:17 <Lucifer_arma> I'm surprised Fonkay has more lines than Durka, she's hardly ever here and Durka's always spamming
09:18  * Lucifer_arma points out that "catching up to luci" has to account for his own increasing line count
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> so maybe more like 1.6 years, at a guess
09:18 <Genki> for me to catch up?
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> yep
09:18 <Genki> hmmm without spamming it would take way longer
09:18 <Genki> :-D
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> because at this rate, when you hit 56k lines, I'll probably have like 70k
09:18 <Genki> probably more
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> right
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> because
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> I
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> use 
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> a 
09:18 <Durka> luci: fonkay has been around much longer than me though
09:18 <Lucifer_arma> lot
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> of
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> lines
09:19 <Genki> yep
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> to
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> say
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> simple
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> thngs
09:19 <Durka> i dont spam much
09:19 <Genki> well I don't want to be kicked for spamming so I can't do that
09:19 <Durka> most of my lines are from me and manta talking
09:19 <Lucifer_arma> Fonkay hardly ever comes in here, though
09:19 <Durka> ya but how long has this channel been in use
09:19 <Genki> dunno
09:19 <Durka> and how long has fonkay been in tron
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> * Lucifer_arma notices a drop in forum posting whenever new people start coming into the channel
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> she's been around for awhile
09:20 <Genki> haha
09:20 <Durka> only 9 months for me
09:20 <Lucifer_arma> she used to play on my server when it was called Breakfast in Hell
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> did you ever see that server?  It's been gone a long time now...
09:21 <Durka> Breakfast Servers ... yummmm :p
09:21 <Durka> ya i saw it when i first started playing
09:21 <Durka> i first played in icemans
09:21 <Durka> then the Untouchables Server
09:21 <Durka> then Lobster Cage
09:21 <Lucifer_arma> man, we weren't even in beta for 0.2.8 when I took it down and brought up the Crack Pipe
09:21 <Durka> then CVS Test Server: Fortress
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> that server came up during the Crack Pipe stage of my server
09:22 <Durka> ya first version of tron i played was 0.2.6
09:22 <Genki> How long have you been playing Sir?
09:22 <Durka> about 5 years ago
09:22 <Durka> i played tron for about 1 week then
09:22 <Durka> then started playing again 9 months ago
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> gotcha beat, I played first on a 0.1.x version, don't remember which exactly
09:22 <Durka> walls?
09:22 <Lucifer_arma> but didn't play it for several years after that, came back in with 0.2.5, but 0.2.7 had just come out
09:23 <Genki> I played about 5 years ago...
09:23 <Genki> 7th grade, only on LAN though
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> no, it was called Armagetron then, had networking but no master server
09:23 <Lucifer_arma> and only european servers.  You had to go to a webpage z-man kept and type in the server to custom connect
09:24 <Genki> wow
09:24 <Genki> how did arma even start?
09:24 <Genki> who created it?
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> z-man
09:24 <Genki> just z-man? O.O
09:24 <Durka> yep
09:24 <Lucifer_arma> he disappeared after 0.2.6 for a looong time, and guru3 (hi there!) and some of his friends forked it to make Armagetron Advanced
09:25 <Durka> werent u part of that
09:25 <Durka> wait no u werent
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> z-man reappeared and blessed the fork and joined the team
09:25 <Genki> wow
09:25 <Durka> when did u join?
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> no, I showed up right after 0.2.7 was released
09:25 <Durka> o
09:25 <Durka> what about wrtl
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> a few months after z-man joined.  :)
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> last spring for wrtl, iirc
09:25 <Durka> he seems very active and yet less than a year it seems
09:25 <Lucifer_arma> during his cockpit rewrite
09:26 <Durka> what happened to iceman?
09:26 <Durka> :p i keep asking
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> he left for awhile, said he didn't know if he'd be back
09:26 <Durka> and where did philipeqc go
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> you keep asking, but not looking.  He posted about it when he left
09:26 <Durka> last seen on september in the forums
09:26 <Lucifer_arma> philippe comes and goes.  He's probably working and pretty busy right now.
09:26 <Durka> o
09:27 <Durka> where did iceman post it
09:27 <Durka> hasnt been seen since july
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you use the search feature, Durka?
09:27 <Durka> i really wanna use his code :p
09:27 <Durka> its cool :)
09:27 <Lucifer_arma> why don't you use the search feature, Durka?
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> It seems that LuciEatsPeople's shift-key is hanging: 6.3% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE.
09:28 <Lucifer_arma> For example, like this:
09:28 <Lucifer_arma>      <LuciEatsPeople> I WANT TO WIN WITH CAPITAL LETTERS
09:28 <Durka> lmao
09:28 <Durka> where does it show
09:28 <Durka> im looking at his recent posts -> http://forums.armagetronad.net/search.php?search_author=iceman
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> that's just posts, now click on his username and do "find posts"
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> well, maybe that's what you did anyway
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> it may not have been his last post, you'll have to skim through his posts
09:29 <Lucifer_arma> which is what I'd have to do in order to answer your question
09:29 <Durka> #nickometer Durka
09:30 <Durka> ive gone back 2 weeks since his last post
09:30 <Durka> still cant find it
09:31 <Durka> look what iceman posted...lmao -> iceman: I want the sparks to overheat and ignite the walls  
09:32 <Durka> ok ive gone back a month luci
09:32 <Durka> no point in going any farther back
09:32 <Durka> #last --from iceman
09:33 <armabot> Durka: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
09:33 <Durka> o_O
09:33 <Durka> #nickometer durka
09:34 <Genki> nickometer?
09:35 <Durka> its supposed to give u a lame-nick reading
09:35 <Durka> genki: im putting the site up now
09:35 <Durka> one sec
09:35 <Durka> just installing the template
09:35  * Genki wonders what would pop up if I typed in the nickometer
09:36 <Genki> okies
09:36 <Genki> No rush, it's only 0136
09:37  * Genki pokes Sir to see if he's still awake
09:37 <Durka> k
09:37 <Durka> lol
09:37 <Genki> :-D
09:37 <Genki> k what?
09:37 <Genki> it's done?
09:37 <Genki> the template anyways...
09:37  * Lucifer_arma is eating a piece of challah bread
09:38  * Genki is jealous and hungry
09:38  * Genki and sleepy
09:38 <Genki> I really need to learn how to talk when using /me
09:39  * Lucifer_arma 's wife bought a bread machine with a gift certificate, so he's been making a lot of bread
09:39  * Genki is gonna go get some french bread from the pantry
09:40  * Genki thinks Sir should make her some bread
09:40  * Genki pokes Durka with a stick to see if he's awake
09:42  * Genki wonders if tank is awake yet
09:43 <Durka> ok sry there
09:43 <Durka> im installing now
09:43 <Genki> no worries, there is no rush
09:43  * Genki enjoys talking in third person
09:43 <Durka> lol
09:44 <Genki> and the funny thing is I do it in person too...
09:44 <Genki> anywho! Durka do you even see my pms?
09:45 <Genki> and Durka is off again...
09:45  * Genki wonders why Sir is quiet again, eating bread takes two hands?
09:45 <Durka> okits  up and running
09:46 <Genki> coolie-o ^_^
09:46 <Durka> i need to edit stuff though
09:46 <Genki> okies
09:46 <Durka> http://genki.freehostia.com/portal.php
09:46 <Durka> ill install the template
09:46 <Durka> one sec
09:46 <Durka> tell me if u like it
09:46 <Genki> *just curious* why are you doing this for me?
09:49 <Durka> idk
09:49 <Durka> its easy and i hate forumer and i have no life
09:49 <Genki> lol
09:49 <Durka> http://genki.freehostia.com/portal.php
09:49 <Durka> do u like that style?
09:49 <Genki> yep ^_^
09:49 <Durka> ok
09:50 <Genki> although I do prefer it like the |x| forums, cause blue is my favorite color, this looks nice ^_^
09:50 <Genki> so anything I can do to help?
09:51 <Durka> ya
09:51 <Durka> a banner
09:51 <Durka> at the top
09:51 <Genki> O.O
09:51 <Durka> and u need to tell me what u want on it
09:51 <Durka> do u want the photo album there?
09:51 <Durka> do u want a downloads section?
09:51 <Durka> do u want a links section
09:51 <Genki> O.O
09:51 <Genki> links section for sure
09:51 <Durka> ok
09:52 <Durka> lemme try something
09:52 <Genki> not really sure what anyone would download... so dont think that's needed...
09:52 <Genki> okies
09:54 <Durka> lmao that didnt work
09:54 <Durka> look what i did to it -> http://genki.freehostia.com/portal.php
09:55 <Durka> genki!
09:55 <Durka> are u there
09:55 <Genki> yeah yeah
09:55 <Genki> impatient much
09:55 <Genki> :P
09:55 <Genki> :P
09:55 <Durka> ok do u want a photo section
09:56 <Durka> like this
09:56 <Durka> http://genki.freehostia.com/album.php
09:56 <Durka> u put pics and galleries
09:56 <Durka> ...
09:56 <Genki> sure
09:56 <Durka> >:*
09:56 <Durka> ok what about downloads
09:56 <Genki> relax! I'm not gonna fall asleep anytime soon lol
09:56 <Durka> lol
09:56 <Genki> umm
09:56 <Genki> hmm
09:56 <Genki> is there anything really to download? lol
09:57 <Durka> lol
09:57 <Durka> i put armagetron in my downloads thing
09:57 <Durka> do u want it
09:57 <Genki> why do I have to decide?
09:57 <Genki> why can't Sir do it for me?
09:58 <Genki> sure Durka sure ^_^
09:59 <Genki> man Durk, for someone who says they have no life you sure are rushing lol
09:59 <Durka> lol
09:59 <Durka> i do get tired
10:00 <Genki> ah yeah, sorry am I keeping you up?
10:02 <Genki> ok, any pressing questions you need to ask me?
10:03 <Durka> downloads...
10:03 <Durka> yay or neigh
10:03 <Genki> which would be easier for you?
10:04 <Genki> take them off or put them in?
10:04 <Durka> both
10:04 <Genki> gah
10:04 <Durka> lol
10:04 <Genki> ok neigh
10:04 <Durka> lmao ok
10:04 <Genki> sorry I'm difficult
10:04 <Durka> lol
10:05 <Durka> so i need u to make a banner
10:05 <Durka> or something to put up top
10:05 <Durka> ill put a under construction sign up
10:05 <Durka> im really tired...i'll finish up the site and make it look good 2maro
10:05 <Genki> haha sweet
10:05 <Genki> okies
10:05 <Genki> I WAS tired, but not anymore
10:05 <Genki> night durka, thanks a lot
10:07  * Genki was expecting a "night" back
10:08  * Genki is hurt
10:08  * Genki just might go curl up in a ball and weep in the corner
10:09 <Genki> I'm all alone again
10:09 <Genki> there's no one here beside me
10:09 -!- epsy [n=epsy@mar75-4-82-227-65-72.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #armagetron
10:10 <Genki> my troubles have all gone
10:10 <epsy> hi
10:10 <Genki> there's no one here to derive me!
10:10 <Genki> hey
10:10 <Genki> mornin'
10:11 <Lucifer_arma> to derive you?
10:11 <Genki> couldn't remember the words lol
10:12  * Genki hopes dervie isn't a bad word
10:12 <Genki> derive even
10:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, it just means something special to programmers, which this channel has many of
10:14 <Durka> ok here genki
10:14 <Durka> http://genki.freehostia.com
10:15 <Genki> o
10:15 <Genki> thx Durka
10:15 <epsy> i have some problems on my arma server...
10:15 <epsy> cycles are jumping
10:15 <epsy> even from localhost :/
10:16 <Genki> So.... should I register Durka? :-S
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, only 2 more pages of transactions to put in
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> epsy: check ps
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> or top
10:16 <Lucifer_arma> find out what's sucking up your cpu time
10:17 <epsy> well actually nothing of my cpu is used
10:17 <epsy> nearly nothing
10:17 <epsy> i'm thinking it comes from cycle_delay
10:19 <Durka> genki:
10:20 <Durka> did u see it
10:20 <Durka> http://genki.freehostia.com
10:20 <Durka> dont register yet
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> watch for spikes, some processes spike the cpu
10:20 <Lucifer_arma> which can cause a cycle-jumping symptom
10:21 <Genki> nice durka
10:22 <Genki> what are the banner requirements?
10:22 <Genki> like pixel size... and uhhh stuff
10:22 <Genki> :-D
10:23 <Durka> lemme see
10:23 <Durka> height is 120
10:23 <Durka> no bigger no less
10:24 <Durka> width can be what u want
10:24 <Genki> okies
10:24 <epsy> hm now it's not doing so...
10:24 <epsy> only on some maps it does
10:26 <Durka> Lµ¢ï£êr_årmå: Ðöê§ thï§ gêt å ßït åññöýïñg?
10:26 <epsy> simply a heavy map
10:27 <epsy> hm
10:27 <epsy> it does too with a simple 8 axes map
10:27 <Durka> use this map epsy :p -> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/tronsector-0.0.1.aamap.xml
10:27 <Durka> be prepared for 0 fps
10:28 <epsy> :P
10:29 <epsy> that's not a map it's a webpage ><
10:29 <epsy> :P
10:30 <Durka> look at it though
10:30 <Durka> its the resource browser
10:31 <epsy> more seriousely
10:31 <epsy> this map is one causing the cycle jumps
10:31 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/armamaps/epsy/classic/4zones-0.0.1.aamap.xml
10:33 <Durka> g2g
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10:34 -!- Genki [n=44e46ffa@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has quit ["CGI:IRC (EOF)"]
10:37 <epsy> well it is caused by one more damn pc running an arma server :P
10:41 <epsy> i've yet another problem with CTF
10:41 <epsy> when there is 3 teams, i get 4 flags :/
10:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
10:46 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune: "Linux: the operating system with a CLUE... || Command Line User Environment". || (seen in a posting in comp.software.testing)
10:46 <epsy> hi darkstar
10:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> hi epsy
10:46  * [Xpert]DarkStar is still in bed
10:46 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #f
10:47 <armabot> Random Fortune: Q: What do you get when you cross the Godfather with an attorney? || A: An offer you can't understand.
10:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #f
10:47 <armabot> Random Fortune: The English country gentleman galloping after a fox -- the unspeakable || in full pursuit of the uneatable. || -- Oscar Wilde, "A Woman of No Importance"
10:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #f
10:47 <armabot> Random Fortune: In order to dial out, it is necessary to broaden one's dimension.
10:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> i should get up i think
10:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> brb
10:53 <epsy> oww no
10:54 <epsy> it's jumping all the way now
10:56 <epsy> well it's  the arma client that is eating ~75% of my cpu...
10:56 <epsy> :/
10:57 <wrtlprnft> epsy: you don't like that map?
10:57 <epsy> tronsector?
10:57 <wrtlprnft> yeah
10:57 <epsy> :P
10:57 <epsy> sorry to say that
10:58 <epsy> but i've sqtill problems with CTF
10:58 <epsy> when there's 3 teams
10:58 <epsy> i get 4 flags
10:58 <wrtlprnft> more bugs :(
10:58 <wrtlprnft> what happens if you get rid of the fortress zones, but make the ffags fortresses?
10:59 <wrtlprnft> *flags
11:06 <epsy> arf i get no flags :P
11:06 <epsy> wait..
11:08 <guru3> thank god durka is gone
11:08 <guru3> don't have to answer his quesiton (whatever it was) now :D
11:08 <wrtlprnft> lol
11:09 <wrtlprnft> guru3: when did you join arma?
11:09 <wrtlprnft> guru3: what was your reason to do so?
11:09 <guru3> "join" ?
11:09 <wrtlprnft> guru3: will you host a server for me?
11:09 <wrtlprnft> heh, i kno
11:09 <wrtlprnft> w
11:10 <guru3> i'm just confused
11:10 <guru3> cause i thought i was here from pretty much... forever
11:11  * Lucifer_arma needs to speed up his ledger
11:11 <wrtlprnft> i was just trying to ask as many questions as durka asked
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> how many questions were you trying to ask?
11:11 <Lucifer_arma> did you ask any?
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> were they smart questions?
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> do you like my shirt?
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> why haven't you answered yet?
11:12 <wrtlprnft> 3, yeah, yeah, dunno
11:12 <wrtlprnft> dunno
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> should I abuse durka more when he comes here?  ;?
11:12 <epsy> well, with fortresses
11:13 <epsy> arf
11:13 <epsy> teams_min doesn't work :/
11:13 <guru3> lol lucifer
11:13 <wrtlprnft> tried the SP_ version?
11:13 <epsy> i'm in sp mode
11:13 <guru3> hence needing to use the SP_TEAMS_MIN
11:13 <wrtlprnft> then you need to set sp_teams_min
11:14 <epsy> and sp_teams_min AND teams_min are on 3
11:14 <wrtlprnft> and (sp_)?teams_max?
11:14 <epsy> at 4
11:14 <wrtlprnft> #armaconfig balance_with_ai
11:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: SP_TEAM_BALANCE_WITH_AIS: Balance teams with AI players in single player mode? (default: 1) || TEAM_BALANCE_WITH_AIS: Balance teams with AI players? (default: 1)
11:14 <wrtlprnft> that enabled?
11:14 <guru3> darn was just gonna ask about something with balancing
11:15 <wrtlprnft> .p
11:15 <epsy> yeah it is to 1
11:15 <guru3> thou arst stealing mine glory
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> he's unbalanced
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> still talking about durka, right?
11:16 <guru3> ~weeee~
11:16 <guru3> not a clue
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I'm up to december 18 now
11:16 <guru3> but was that the real reason he was after me?
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> only 1.3 pages left
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> no, he had a serious question, but I don't remember what it was
11:16 <guru3> meh
11:16 <guru3> if it was serious
11:17 <guru3> he'd friggin pm me
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> I don't know, maybe he was feeling helpful and was going to tell you about the spam on the forum
11:17 <guru3> buahahaha
11:17 <wrtlprnft> epsy: is num_ais and auto_ai 0?
11:17 <guru3> already taken care of
11:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, if it was serious to him he'd pm you, but if it was really serious he'd come here and whine that you're not answering (which is what he did)
11:17 <guru3> yeah
11:17 <guru3> next time he does that
11:17 <guru3> tell him you expect me to answer any minute
11:18 <Lucifer_arma> want me to show him #message ?
11:18 <guru3> BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS AWAKE AT FUCKING 5 AM
11:18 <epsy> both are on 0 and their sp_ too
11:18 <guru3> might need auto_ai on 1
11:18 <Lucifer_arma> dude, he's a snobby american, doesn't realize there's anything outside the US
11:18 <guru3> :<
11:18 <epsy> tank: no it's team play
11:19 <guru3> geh what?
11:19 <Lucifer_arma> back when z-man had CVS Test running, durka asked where it was, and I told him Germany, and he *actually* said, "Where's that at?"
11:19 <wrtlprnft> lol
11:19 <guru3> szzzzzzzzzzzz OUCH
11:19 <epsy> lol
11:19 <guru3> speaking of fortress
11:19 <guru3> what is a shame
11:20 <guru3> is no one ever plays on my fortress server
11:20 <wrtlprnft> you have one?
11:20 <epsy> you have one?
11:20 <epsy> ><
11:20 <Lucifer_arma> you have a fortress server now?
11:20 <guru3> haha yeah it's been up for a couple months at least
11:20  * Lucifer_arma reminds himself to check if he can build arma again yet
11:20 <epsy> name/ip?
11:20 <epsy> tigers network team play?
11:20 <epsy> :P
11:20 <guru3> no
11:21 <guru3> that's like... offline now
11:21 <guru3> and a totally different server
11:21 <guru3> wrtlprnft: it's like #serverdetails isn't it?
11:21 <wrtlprnft> yeah
11:21 <guru3> #serverdetails Fortress
11:21 <armabot> guru3: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (12/14): Bodrick, Dazer, Hyperbyte, ikono, KavE, Lv Hawk, lv traips, r3CoVEr, S p @ @ d 3 k, Skipard, ~HTF~ TAdd, ¦Ö¦W4z3r
11:21 <guru3> well
11:21 <guru3> that's not it
11:21 <guru3> *rawr*
11:21 <wrtlprnft> 	ip="90.227.129.150"
11:21 <Lucifer_arma> yay, I crashed my budget program
11:21 <wrtlprnft> that one?
11:21 <wrtlprnft> 	port="4537"
11:21 <guru3> electricpotential.net	A	90.227.129.150
11:21 <guru3> yeah
11:22 <guru3> epsy: notice how we've slickly avoided answering your question by changing the topic because none of us can think of anything todo
11:22  * guru3 whistles
11:22 <epsy> ><
11:23 <wrtlprnft> so what's wrong?
11:23 <wrtlprnft> do you only get two teams?
11:23 <epsy> i wnat that i get 2 to 4 teams
11:23 <epsy> and each has one and oly one flag
11:23 <wrtlprnft> isn't that what you want?
11:24 <epsy> ?
11:24 <guru3> ooooooo pwned
11:24 <Lucifer_arma> go back like it was and ask wrtlprnft to make the CTF stuff have a flag disappear when a team doesn't own it like the fortress zones
11:24  * Lucifer_arma thinks if wrtlprnft (hi there!) is going to adopt this CTF stuff we may as well put it in 0.2.8.3
11:25 <epsy> or i can switch the CTF part to the 2-team play mode
11:25 <Lucifer_arma> any idea what COLDSTN CREAM is?
11:25 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: i've already adopted waay more than i can easily handle :(
11:26 <wrtlprnft> epsy: do you have a server running with those settings so i can test what's happening?
11:26 <epsy> yeah
11:26 <epsy> the kows klan test arena
11:26 <wrtlprnft> #serverinfo -v kows
11:26 <armabot> wrtlprnft: thekowsklan test arerna STILL IN PRE-ALPHA STAGE (82.227.65.72:4535) running 0.2.8_alpha20061219 unix dedic, url: http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/, Description: “All settings at default values.“, No online players.
11:27 <epsy> yeah this one
11:27 <Lucifer_arma> you guys hate black people?
11:35 <Lucifer_arma> yay, only one more page of transactions left
11:48  * Lucifer_arma started with 4 pages
11:50 <guru3> it sounds... incredibly boring
11:52 <Lucifer_arma> it is
11:53 <Lucifer_arma> but it's necessary
11:53 <Lucifer_arma> see, when January starts, I want to use my checkbook program for real, as in "production use"
11:53 <Lucifer_arma> so I'm putting in all of December's transactions to test the ledger and balance objects and make sure it gives the right numbers
11:53 <epsy> wrtlprnft, so what should i put in my everytime.cfg?
11:53 <wrtlprnft> what's in it?
11:53 <wrtlprnft> brb, there's a cake in the oven i'd rather not burn
11:54 <Lucifer_arma> INCLUDE settings_custom.cfg
11:54 <epsy> there is many things comeing form many files...
11:54 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
11:54 <armabot> spidey: [09:17:32] <Genki> or slap spidey around, [18:17:47] <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong, [22:52:40] <spidey> i'm superspidey, [22:51:07] * Abhor squishes spidey, [22:50:41] * Abhor slaps spidey, [22:50:14] * Abhor pokes spidey, [22:48:50] <guru3> spidey: shouldn't it be o.O.O.O.O.O.O.o, [21:19:20] <luke-jr_work> spidey: it's based on reality, [20:54:25] <luke-jr_work> spidey: wtf u want, [19:39:41] <DrJoeTron> (14 more messages)
11:54 <epsy> it's realy messy
11:54 <epsy> for ctf:
11:55 <spidey> i
11:55 <spidey> just woke up
11:55 <spidey> and i went to sleep at like...
11:55 <spidey> i forgot
11:55 <spidey> o.O
11:55 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, what do they sell at Hula Hut?
11:57 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, it's that weird place owned by Chuy's
11:59 <wrtlprnft> i noticed that *something* is messy
12:00 <epsy> so, for ctf, my everytime.cfg is:
12:00 <epsy> ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE 0x999999the0x00ff00cows0xdd77fffarm0xffffff arena\n0xff0000no camping, recruiting, or bot-play.\n0xe5cd00M0xe5cf16a0xe5d230p0xe5d551 0xe5d973i0xe5d551n0xe5d230f0xe5cf16o\n0xe5d973Name     0xffffff: 0x00ff00Already saw?\n0xe5d973Author   0xffffff: 0x00ff00epsy\n0xe5d973Licence  0xffffff: 0x00ff00BSD
12:00 <epsy> SP_MIN_PLAYERS 4
12:00 <epsy> SP_TEAMS_MIN 3
12:00 <epsy> SP_TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS 2
12:00 <epsy> SP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 2
12:00 <epsy> SP_TEAM_BALANCE_WITH_AIS 1
12:00 <epsy> TEAM_BALANCE_WITH_AIS 1
12:00 <epsy> TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS 2
12:00 <epsy> TEAM_MIN_PLAYERS 2
12:00 <epsy> TEAMS_MAX 4
12:00 <epsy> TEAMS_MIN 3
12:00 <wrtlprnft> the min_players could screw things up
12:00 <wrtlprnft> set it to 0
12:00 <epsy> FORTRESS_CONQUEST_RATE 0
12:00 <epsy> FORTRESS_MAX_PER_TEAM 1
12:00 <epsy> FORTRESS_CONQUEST_RATE 0
12:00 <epsy> FORTRESS_DEFEND_RATE 0
12:00 <epsy> FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE 0
12:00 <epsy> BASE_RESPAWN 1
12:01 <epsy> BASE_ENEMY_RESPAWN 1
12:01 <epsy> BASE_RESPAWN_REMIND_TIME 10
12:01 <epsy> BASE_ENEMY_KILL 1
12:01 <epsy> RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_SERVER http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/armamaps/
12:01 <epsy> MAP_FILE epsy/ctf/4zones-0.0.1.aamap.xml
12:01 <epsy> ROUND_CENTER_MESSAGE  0xffffffC0xccffcca0x99ff99p0x66ff66t0x33ff33u0x00ff00re the flag  - Already saw?
12:01 <epsy> sry for long post ^^
12:01 <epsy> k
12:01 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't be a problem as long as guru3 (hi there!) doesn't have his voice read thing enabled
12:02 <guru3> haha
12:02 <guru3> why always the hi there ><
12:02 <wrtlprnft> just copied that from Lucifer_arma 
12:02 <wrtlprnft> it's not automatic for me, though, guru3 
12:02 <guru3> ><
12:03 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it's automatic for Lucifer_arma (hi there!) 
12:04 <epsy> o a player 1 on my server ><
12:05 <epsy> wrtlprnft, it's all?
12:08 <epsy> hm
12:09 <epsy> for the 4 flags-3 teams problem, i'ill give up and switch it to 2 team play
12:09 <epsy> then i will put maze instead
12:11 <wrtlprnft> with two teams you shouldn't have any problem
12:11 <wrtlprnft> g2g for some 30 mins
12:11 <epsy> yeah
12:12 <epsy> i still have an idea-lack
12:13 <epsy> there should be 3 typezs of 2 team-play and 3 of 4-team play
12:13 <epsy> but i've only two for 2 teams-play
12:13 <epsy> what kind of gameplay would you like to see?
12:14 <epsy> i've actually fortress and also CTF
12:15 <epsy> g2g
12:21 <Lucifer_arma> holy fuck
12:21 <Lucifer_arma> according to this, we spent 5228 in December
12:22 <Lucifer_arma> that's scary
12:27 <wrtlprnft> 5228 what?
12:27 <Lucifer_arma> USD
12:27 <wrtlprnft> oh
12:29 <Lucifer_arma> it makes sense, we spent the last half of november broke, so I'll bet in november we only spent like $2k
12:29 <Lucifer_arma> so it should even out if I had all those transactions to put in (which I do, but I really don't feel like it)
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12:30 <Lucifer_arma> definitely need to put the pysqlite backend in before I worry about budgeting :/
12:31 <Lucifer_arma> damn ledger takes half a second to update with only a month's transactions
12:39 <epsy> back
12:40 <spidey> deja_vu, 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <spidey> deja_vu, 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <spidey> deja_vu, 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <spidey> deja_vu, 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <spidey> deja_vu, 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <spidey> deja_vu, 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <spidey> deja_vu, 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <spidey> deja_vu, 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <spidey> deja_vu,  HI!!!!!!!!
12:41 <deja_vu> spidey: 
12:41 <deja_vu> heya ;)
12:41 <spidey> :D
12:45 <Lucifer_arma> fucking spammers
12:45 <guru3> yeah
12:45 <guru3> slap those bitches
12:47 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
12:47 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [User terminated!]
12:47 -!- deja_vu was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [User terminated!]
12:47 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
12:47 <Lucifer_arma> slapped
12:47 <DrJoeTron> jolly good :)
12:47  * Lucifer_arma wonders how long it'll take them to notice they got kicked
12:53 <DrJoeTron> I totally forgot how long zelda games were
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13:11 <epsy> cya all
13:11 <epsy> ;)
13:11 <epsy> :P
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13:17 <DrJoeTron> he's filled with such emotions
13:20 <wrtlprnft> aww don't kick deja_vo
13:20 <wrtlprnft> *vu
13:21 <wrtlprnft> spidey started it
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13:24 <wrtlprnft> the pover of /invite :P
13:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh wow, checkbook program's almost ready for a release
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13:53 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: 15 minutes, apparently ;)
13:54  * wrtlprnft wonders if he should make armabot a permanent channel op and add a #kickspidey command to her, free for everyone ;)
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14:30 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: that's over an hour
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15:09 <wrtlprnft> oops
15:09 <wrtlprnft> 105 minutes then
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16:07 <ghableska> hello
16:07 <luke-jr> hi
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16:13 <wrtlprnft> hi
16:13  * wrtlprnft hopes Lucifer_arma won't decide to kick him for that
16:14 <ghableska> for saying hi?
16:14 <wrtlprnft> 12:41 <deja_vu> heya ;)
16:14 <wrtlprnft> 12:45 <Lucifer_arma> fucking spammers
16:14 <wrtlprnft> 12:47 -!- deja_vu was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [User terminated!]
16:14 <ghableska> O_o
16:14 <wrtlprnft> ok, that wasn't fair, i admit
16:14 <wrtlprnft> #realchatlogs
16:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
16:14 <wrtlprnft> just a few hours ago
16:14  * Lucifer_arma was only following directions
16:15 <Lucifer_arma> guru3 told me to slap them
16:15 <guru3> indeed
16:15 <guru3> blame me
16:15 <Lucifer_arma> better yet, blame wrtlprnft (hi there!) for only telling half the story :)
16:15 <wrtlprnft> i told ghableska to read the full story in the chatlogs
16:16  * ghableska is looking for it :P
16:17 <ghableska> where is it?
16:17 <Lucifer_arma> near the bottom?  nothing has happened since then
16:18 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2006-12-29.txt
16:18 <wrtlprnft> just search for “kick”
16:18 <Lucifer_arma> #last --from spidey --from deja_vu --nolimit
16:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: [12:41:58] <deja_vu> heya ;), [12:41:55] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:53] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:50] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:48] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:47] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:46] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:45] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:43] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:40] <deja_vu> spidey:, [12:41:29] <deja_vu> spidey:, [16:28:31] <deja_vu> hello the right one Genki o.o, [16:27:48] <deja_vu> do (1 more message)
16:18 <Lucifer_arma> #more
16:18 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: you want one?, [16:27:30] <deja_vu> exactly, [16:26:04] <deja_vu> hi mr. wrtlprnft :), [16:22:31] <deja_vu> hello Genki, [22:11:52] <deja_vu> oh todd *.*, [22:11:40] <deja_vu> i see :P, [22:10:35] * deja_vu isn't sure where he's seen a GodTodd , [22:10:11] <deja_vu> MUHAHA, [22:09:55] * deja_vu destroys spideys web, and [22:09:26] <deja_vu> spidey: :)
16:18 <ghableska> ah
16:18 <Lucifer_arma> oh well
16:18 <wrtlprnft> i'm surprised this turned up anything
16:18 <ghableska> I'm looking at it now ;)
16:19 <Lucifer_arma> me too.  Clearly the second --from overrode the first, however
16:19 <wrtlprnft> i thought it would try to find lines that were from spidey AND from deja_vu
16:19 <Lucifer_arma> I had hoped it would OR them
16:19 <ghableska> why wasn't spidey kicked?
16:19 <Lucifer_arma> he was
16:19 <wrtlprnft> he was
16:19 <ghableska> er
16:19 <ghableska> ah
16:19 <wrtlprnft> but kicking spidey isn't a bad thing
16:19 <ghableska> heh
16:20 <wrtlprnft> and i still think only spidey (hi there!) should have been kicked as he started it, and deja_vu_ (hi there you too!) should have gotten a warning for joining his child's play
16:20 <deja_vu_> o.o
16:20 <wrtlprnft> that's why i invited deja_vu_ back in
16:21  * ghableska is still trying to figure out how to ignore people on IRC
16:21 <Lucifer_arma> ah, but see, I was told to "slap them bitches".  So I slapped them.  If we were after real punishment, it would have been different.
16:21 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: it's a feature in my client, afaik.
16:21 <wrtlprnft> /quit ignore <nick> <your password from nickserv>
16:22 <Lucifer_arma> that might work too
16:22 <guru3> i'd give what wrtlprnft said a shot
16:22 -!- deja_vu_ is now known as deja_vu
16:22 <ghableska> ok wrtlprnft, I'm ignoring you, but how do I remove the ignore?
16:22 <wrtlprnft> how should i tell you?
16:22 <ghableska> I haven't ignored you yet ;)
16:23 <wrtlprnft> #echo try /quit unignore <nick> <your password from nickserv>
16:23 <armabot> try /quit unignore <nick> <your password from nickserv>
16:23 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12.240.54.90] has quit ["ignore"]
16:23 <wrtlprnft> awwww!
16:23 <Lucifer_arma> didn't get his password
16:23 <wrtlprnft> i thought it would put his password in the reason
16:23 <guru3> D:
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16:23 <wrtlprnft> next time i'll tell him to put the password first
16:23 <wrtlprnft> oops.
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16:23 <guru3> lol
16:23  * Lucifer_arma is laughing out loud
16:24 <ghableska_> >_>
16:24 <wrtlprnft> i think i messed the order up
16:24 <guru3> ghableska_: wrtlprnft lied
16:24 <guru3> it's password ignore yournick
16:24 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it's true
16:24  * Lucifer_arma shifts his escape key
16:24 <wrtlprnft> sorry, haven't done that in a long time
16:24 <ghableska_> and I thought I wouldn't be disconnected today
16:25 -!- ghableska_ is now known as ghableska
16:25 <wrtlprnft> that command is a bit weird. if you mix up the order it might do random stuff
16:25 <ghableska> heh
16:25 <ghableska> so /password ignore wrtlprnft?
16:25 <guru3> no
16:26 <Lucifer_arma> no, /quit <password> ignore wrtlprnft
16:26 <guru3> do /quit password ignore wrtlprnft 
16:26 <ghableska> ok
16:26 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12.240.54.90] has quit [Client Quit]
16:26 <guru3> damnit
16:26 <Lucifer_arma> is he outsmarting us?
16:26 <guru3> could be
16:26 <wrtlprnft> or his client is
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16:26 <ghableska_> grr
16:27 <Lucifer_arma> you sure you put your password in there?
16:27 <ghableska_> yep
16:27 -!- ghableska_ is now known as ghableska
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16:27 <Lucifer_arma> server can't ignore for you unless you do that, it won't know that wrtlprnft isn't pranking you without a password
16:27 <Lucifer_arma> server can't ignore for you unless you do that, it won't know that wrtlprnft isn't pranking you without a password
--- Log closed Fri Dec 29 16:27:27 2006
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16:27 <ghableska> are the commands client or server based?
16:27 <guru3> server, to save bandwith
16:27 <wrtlprnft> hmm, try putting quotes around everything after the /quit
16:28 <wrtlprnft> /quit "<password> ignore wrtlprnft"
16:28 <guru3> it goes after a /quit so the server takes the update on your reconnect, usually...
16:28 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12.240.54.90] has quit [Client Quit]
16:28 <wrtlprnft> DARN!
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16:28 <wrtlprnft> try /part instead of /quit…
16:29 <wrtlprnft> that might work
16:29 <Lucifer_arma> try copying and pasting what you wrote here so wrtlprnft can figure out what's wrong
16:29 <wrtlprnft> your client seems to be acting weird
16:29 <ghableska> not surprised
16:29  * ghableska has had Trillian crash randomly multiple times
16:30 <Lucifer_arma> maybe that's your problem, you use a program luke-jr (hi there!) thinks is evil
16:30 <ghableska> heh
16:30 <wrtlprnft> try /ctcp wrtlprnft PRIVMSG ignore <password>
16:31 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: say something
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16:31 <guru3> yup it works
16:31 <wrtlprnft> o_O
16:31 <wrtlprnft> "connect"
16:31 <spidey> wrtlprnft, ugh
16:31 <spidey> bullshit
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16:31 <wrtlprnft> ok, i suggest you change your password ghableska 
16:32 <wrtlprnft> we were playing tricks on you
16:32 <wrtlprnft> read the chatlogs
16:32 <ghableska> >_>
16:32 <spidey> if you're so "he started it, he should have got it" then why is it you made the bot ignore ME when ghableska and todd where spamming me with it first?
16:32 <guru3> no we weren't
16:32 <wrtlprnft> or wait a few minutes before you do it
16:32 <guru3> your password was obviously intercepted by a malicious hacker
16:32 <ghableska> alright, how do I change my password?
16:32 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has left #armagetron ["<old password> <new password>"]
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16:32 <guru3> lol
16:33 <guru3> wd Lucifer_arma 
16:33  * Lucifer_arma laughs at himself
16:33 <guru3> don't worry
16:33 <guru3> we're laughing with you. honest.
16:33 <wrtlprnft> /msg nickserv set password <new password>
16:33 <wrtlprnft> this time for real
16:33  * ghableska glares
16:33 <Lucifer_arma> press shift-escape for cheats!
16:33 <guru3> what wrtlprnft says is right
16:33 <guru3> sadly :/
16:34 <wrtlprnft> and don't laugh, for a few seconds my nickserv pass was "<new"
16:34  * Lucifer_arma dropped quite a few hints for ghableska to pick up
16:34 <guru3> lol wrtlprnft 
16:34 <wrtlprnft> because i forgot the leading extra / and actuallly executed the commend
16:34 <wrtlprnft> *command
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16:34 <wrtlprnft> wb ghableska 
16:34 -!- dumbhead [n=dave@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit [Client Quit]
16:34 <guru3> for some reason i can't get irssi to agree with the leading //
16:34 <wrtlprnft> err, sec
16:34 <wrtlprnft> that's not ghableska 
16:34 <ghableska> sorry Lucifer_arma, I'm still half-asleep
16:34 <wrtlprnft> ni, it was
16:35 <wrtlprnft> guru3: / /blah
16:35 <wrtlprnft> you need a space
16:35 <guru3> /blah
16:35 <guru3> i see
16:35 <guru3> that's good to know
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16:35 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: so, sorry, but it was fun for us :)
16:35 <fcukfcuk> fuck shit damn piss
16:35 -!- fcukfcuk [n=dave@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has left #armagetron [""something with a space""]
16:35 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
16:36 <wrtlprnft> he seems to be REALLY mad now
16:36 <ghableska> maybe it's a good thing I'm not completely awake...
16:36 <@guru3> lol
16:36 <Lucifer_arma> just one space works for me, provided I remember to put it in there
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16:36 <fcukfcuk> shit
16:36 -!- fcukfcuk was kicked from #armagetron by guru3 [guru3]
16:36 <wrtlprnft> lol
16:36 <Lucifer_arma> you couldn't wait 2 seconds?
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16:37 <Lucifer_arma> ok, found out what I wanted to know
16:37 <wrtlprnft> i think he's trying to figure out how the quit command works
16:37 <Lucifer_arma> quit doesn't let you put anything in, onlly part does
16:37 <Lucifer_arma> and you don't need quotes
16:37 <@guru3> bug in trillian?
16:38 <wrtlprnft> seems like it's the same with irssi
16:38 <Lucifer_arma> I was using irssi for that
16:38 <wrtlprnft> the help says you can put a reason, but it doesn't work
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16:39 <LuciEatsPeople> yep, irssi's broken
16:39 <LuciEatsPeople> konversation works fine
16:39 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
16:40 <LuciEatsPeople> I LIKE USING CAPITAL LETTERS.
16:40 -!- LuciEatsPeople [n=dave@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit ["leaving"]
16:40 <Lucifer_arma> that's weird.  That time it put something in there
16:41 -!- deja_vu [n=deja_vu@Q4b3a.q.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
16:41  * Lucifer_arma has left this server (Read error: 43284 (Son puked on keyboard)).
16:41 <wrtlprnft> it's unreliable both ways, it seems
16:42 <wrtlprnft> the best way is to enter and leave a couple of times to be sure your message gets delivered
16:42 <@guru3> lol
16:43 <wrtlprnft> especially fun if you're on multiple servers and many channels
16:43 <@guru3> i bet you could write a script for it
16:44 <@guru3> or a plugin or something
16:44 <Lucifer_arma> why does my hand smell like ramen?
16:44 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't eaten ramen in at least a year...
16:44 <wrtlprnft> then i might as well write a script that sends my message to every channel every five seconds until I'm kicked from all of them
16:45 <Lucifer_arma> nah, because some ops are less forgiving than others and might ban you too
16:45 <wrtlprnft> true
16:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o wrtlprnft] by ChanServ
16:45 <Lucifer_arma> you could use a non-broken irc client, like Trillian
16:45 -!- wrtlprnft was kicked from #armagetron by wrtlprnft [byebye]
--- Log closed Fri Dec 29 16:45:48 2006
--- Log opened Fri Dec 29 16:45:54 2006
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16:45 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
16:45 -!- Irssi: Join to #armagetron was synced in 1 secs
16:45 <wrtlprnft> that's another way to do it
16:46 <Lucifer_arma> well, sure, but it won't work if you're trying to get some sucker to give you his nickserv password
16:46 <wrtlprnft> the ctcp thing worked
16:46 <wrtlprnft> and it looks less suspicious
16:46 <Lucifer_arma> I thought "/part" looked pretty unsuspicious
16:47 <wrtlprnft> but it didn't work either
16:47 <Lucifer_arma> quit was too obvious.  He would've caught that if he'd been awake longer
16:47 <wrtlprnft> it works if the person is looking for a way to kick somone, i bet
16:48 <Lucifer_arma> you mean like if he had been asking how to kick someone?
16:48 <wrtlprnft> 1
16:48 <Lucifer_arma> then you could get him to send you his password, then use it to get him kicked via nick collision
16:48 <Lucifer_arma> not that you'd have to get all elaborate about it if you wanted to kick someone
16:49 <wrtlprnft> i can't kick anyone from the server
16:50 <Lucifer_arma> it'd only be temporary anyway, if his client's worth half a shit it would login anyway and kick you
16:50 <Lucifer_arma> mine would :)
16:50 <wrtlprnft> it couldn't kick me. how?
16:50 <Lucifer_arma> just by logging back in
16:50 <wrtlprnft> so what?
16:50 <wrtlprnft> i'd still be under my nick
16:50 <Lucifer_arma> nickserv kicks the older of the two authenticated users
16:50 <wrtlprnft> and he wouldn't have my password
16:51 <Lucifer_arma> he'd kick your zombie, then.  Whatever you used to identify with nickserv and get him kicked
16:51 <wrtlprnft> ?!
16:51 <wrtlprnft> /msg Nickserv ghost ghableska connect
16:51 <ghableska> o.0
16:51 <wrtlprnft> i didn't change my nick or anything
16:51 <Lucifer_arma> you just connected your name and then he got kicked?
16:51 <wrtlprnft> ah, he changed his pass, the command doesn't work anymore
16:51  * ghableska feels really stupid now
16:52 <ghableska> I just woke up :/
16:52 <wrtlprnft> yeah
16:52 <Lucifer_arma> he got you to press shift-escape for cheats!  :)
16:52 <wrtlprnft> doesn't work
16:52 <wrtlprnft> tried it
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16:52 <wrtlprnft> just does nothing to my konsole
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16:52 <wrtlprnft> that wasn't me!
16:53 <Lucifer_arma> I still say we should make shift-escape bring up a help menu
16:53 <ghableska> :P
16:53 <wrtlprnft> nah, it's the boss key
16:53 <Lucifer_arma> don't tell anyone, just do it.
16:53 <wrtlprnft> on bzflag (beurks!) it's F12, even
16:53 <Lucifer_arma> you know, prank the whole community at once.  Someone will say "how do I play?" and some smart-ass will say "shift-escape"
16:53 <Lucifer_arma> then the new guy will do it, read the instructions, and say "thanks!"
16:53 <Lucifer_arma> and the smart-ass will be soooo confused
16:54 <wrtlprnft> have it bring up a screen, “the person using this computer is playing a game instead of working!”
16:54 <Lucifer_arma> come on, it'd be the coolest prank ever
16:54 <wrtlprnft> then do it :P
16:54 <wrtlprnft> just note that the newbies who fall for that trick are usually the last to download a new beta/alpha/rc
16:54 <wrtlprnft> and i actually use that key everytime i exit arma
16:54 <Lucifer_arma> needs to be in 0.2.8.3 to work right
16:55 <@guru3> we should have an instant action
16:55 <@guru3> that automatically picks a server
16:55 <@guru3> from the main menu
16:55 <Lucifer_arma> might have shift-F1 in that version to quit instead, and then switch 'em around in the 0.3 branch
16:56 <Lucifer_arma> after going like that for awhile, we might actually stamp out the shift-escape gag
16:56 <@guru3> lol
16:58 <wrtlprnft> it defeats the use of the boss key
16:58 <wrtlprnft> maybe have it display a help screen the first time it's used
16:58 <wrtlprnft> telling the guy that if he ever presses it again it will exit the game
16:59 <wrtlprnft> like the windows crtl-alt-del thing
16:59 <Lucifer_arma> well, if you want to make it like that, then it should bring up a menu with two options.  Quit game, or help!
17:00 <Lucifer_arma> and then whichever you choose, it should ask at least twice "Are you sure?"
17:00 <wrtlprnft> if you supply the help…
17:01 <Lucifer_arma> find something that will render html to an opengl screen first.  :)  Then we can just have it go to the wiki
17:02 <wrtlprnft> you want another dependency just for a help screen?
17:02 <@guru3> of course
17:03 <wrtlprnft> if the wiki was producing valid XHTML it would be different
17:03 <wrtlprnft> you could write a basic parser that doesn't understand CSS in no time
17:04 <@guru3> you could write a special interface to the wiki
17:04 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.devmaster.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7571
17:05 <Lucifer_arma> actually, I was hoping for something simple that could be put in src/thirdparty
17:09 <wrtlprnft> you could just remove all the dirty hacks from the wiki
17:09 <wrtlprnft> wikipedia IS generating valid xhtml
17:10 <Lucifer_arma> that's recent
17:10 <wrtlprnft> no
17:10 <wrtlprnft> it's been valid for as long as i can remember
17:10 <Lucifer_arma> errr, pretty sure I saw a slashdot article mentioning it in the last couple of months...
17:11 <Lucifer_arma> it's also on the todo-list for after the version of mediawiki we're running.  Maybe there's an update?
17:11 <wrtlprnft> actually all that seems to be invalid about it is the style tag this menu extension prints
17:11 <wrtlprnft> i think that's about the pages being ALWAYS valid, even if users insert messed up html into the pages
17:12 <Lucifer_arma> didn't I disable that menu extension?
17:12 <wrtlprnft> it's still printing crap
17:12 <wrtlprnft> or i dunno where it comes from
17:12 <Lucifer_arma> I think that's a bug in the mediawiki version we're running.  I remember talking to the bad behavior guy and he'd received reports from others using the same version
17:13 <wrtlprnft> then update :P
17:13 <Lucifer_arma> have they released a new version?  When I last updated, I updated to the latest, short of svn trunk...
17:13 <wrtlprnft> i don't think a normal installation would print that
17:14 <wrtlprnft> #main { border-top: 1px solid #666; clear: both; width: 100%; }
17:14 <wrtlprnft> #contents { background: #9aa4b3; border-top: 2em solid #e6f0ff; }
17:14 <wrtlprnft> #header { position: relative; width: 100%; height: 2em; width: 45em; }
17:14 <wrtlprnft> there is no element with the id main on the whole page
17:14 <Lucifer_arma> well, obviously they weren't all normal installations, they all had bad behavior installed
17:14 <wrtlprnft> neither content
17:14 <wrtlprnft> *contents
17:14 <wrtlprnft> well, where does it get that code from if it makes no sense?
17:14 <Lucifer_arma> was there in an older version and the template just hadn't yet been updated?
17:15 <wrtlprnft> i dunno
17:15 <wrtlprnft> just grep your installation for '#contents' and see what it turns up?
17:23 <Lucifer_arma> http://openvrml.org/
17:48 <wrtlprnft> now how would that help us?
17:50 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/totalonlinehistory.png
17:50  * wrtlprnft wonders if an image with 15000 pixels width is to be considered small
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17:54 <epsy> hey
17:59 <wrtlprnft> hi
18:00 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: set it as your screensaver
18:00 <wrtlprnft> haha
18:16  * ghableska wonders why his wallpaper suddenly turned grey
18:18 <spidey> spyware
18:18 <ghableska> nah
18:23  * ghableska goes to mess around with Terragn 2
18:23 <ghableska> *Terragen
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18:58 <ghableska> #weather 50265
18:59 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (10:54 AM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa. 
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19:39 <Durka> #hello
19:44 <Durka> grrr
19:44 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: "[In 'Doctor' mode], I spent a good ten minutes telling Emacs what I || thought of it. (The response was, 'Perhaps you could try to be less || abusive.')" || (By Matt Welsh)
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20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6544 /private/z-man/clio/ (19 files):
20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: r876@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 10:54:52 +0100
20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: New data conversion infrastructure (yet again), consuming less space and giving more
20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: run-time flexibility.
20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6545 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files):
20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: r877@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 11:52:48 +0100
20:05 <armabot> armagetronad: GCC 4.1 compatibility
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6546 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files):
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: r878@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 12:03:07 +0100
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: minor rearrangemanets
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20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6547 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files):
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: r879@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 14:08:08 +0100
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: Restored data conversion of primitives and references/pointers.
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6548 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion_extended.hpp):
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: r880@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 14:38:23 +0100
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: GCC 4.1 compatibility
20:06 <Genki> hello z-man
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6549 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files):
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: r881@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 14:47:37 +0100
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: Moved implementation of references/pointers to primitives to regular
20:06 <armabot> armagetronad: instantiations, they were too bloaty for the library.
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6550 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion.hpp typetraits.hpp):
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: r882@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 14:52:15 +0100
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: GCC 4.1.1 compatibility
20:07 <z-man> no time for chat, dinner is ready.
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6551 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion.hpp dataconversion_extended.cpp):
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: r883@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 21:09:21 +0100
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Combined conversion of const and nonconst arugments.
20:07 <Genki> have a nice dinner ^_^
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6552 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files):
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: r884@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 21:43:29 +0100
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Specialized number conversion manually to just three cases
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6553 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files):
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: r885@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 23:21:56 +0100
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Minor rearrangements
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6554 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files):
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: r886@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-20 23:51:21 +0100
20:07 <armabot> armagetronad: more rearrangements
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6555 /private/z-man/clio/ (9 files):
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: r887@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-21 10:50:52 +0100
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: Consistently passing the caller information to all data conversion functions.
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6556 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files):
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: r888@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-21 12:50:27 +0100
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: restored most of the conversions.
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6557 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion.hpp test.cpp):
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: r889@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-21 13:08:28 +0100
20:08 <armabot> armagetronad: Restored full string conversion.
20:08 <wrtlprnft> wow
20:08 <z-man> Har, that spam is about to continue for a while :)
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6558 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion_extended.cpp dataconversion_extended.hpp):
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: r890@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-21 13:12:17 +0100
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: moved some implementation into cpp file.
20:09 <wrtlprnft> as long as it's nice code :)
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6559 /private/z-man/clio/ (. test.cpp):
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: r891@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-21 13:37:01 +0100
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: working around return by reference quirk.
20:09 <z-man> Not all of it.
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6560 /private/z-man/clio/ (8 files):
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: r892@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-22 00:47:58 +0100
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: Cleaned up classname detection, works now for templates.
20:09 <wrtlprnft> well, i hope it puts scripting into closer reach
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6561 /private/z-man/clio/ (. test.cpp):
20:09 <wrtlprnft> tell me if you want me to disable armabot
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: r893@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-22 00:51:33 +0100
20:09 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed debug mode.
20:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6562 /private/z-man/clio/ (. classname.hpp):
20:10 <armabot> armagetronad: r894@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-22 10:39:23 +0100
20:10 <armabot> armagetronad: Removed extra semicolon.
20:10 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6563 /private/z-man/clio/ (. gcmarker.cpp gcmarker.hpp gcpointer.cpp gcpointer.hpp):
20:10 <armabot> armagetronad: r895@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-22 18:52:34 +0100
20:10 <armabot> armagetronad: base for GC aware smart pointers
20:10 <Genki> hey wrtl ^_^
20:10 <wrtlprnft> hi
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6564 /private/z-man/clio/ (9 files):
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: r896@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-22 19:48:05 +0100
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: Implemented GC smart pointers
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6565 /private/z-man/clio/ (. gcmarker.cpp gcpointer.hpp objectwrapper.cpp test.cpp):
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: r897@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 10:19:53 +0100
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: GCPointer works now if it is a member of an also managed class.
20:11 <wrtlprnft> GC? general context? graphical context? game context? gay context? co context at all?
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6566 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files):
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: r898@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 10:40:50 +0100
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: Orphaned GCPointers outside of managed objects work as well.
20:11 <wrtlprnft> *no
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6567 /private/z-man/clio/ (. gcpointer.hpp):
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: r899@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 10:50:09 +0100
20:11 <armabot> armagetronad: GCC 4.1 compatibility.
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6568 /private/z-man/clio/ (. objectwrapper.cpp):
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: r900@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 10:51:35 +0100
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: removed verbose messages.
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6569 /private/z-man/clio/ (. state.cpp state.hpp):
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: r901@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 15:49:55 +0100
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: Added function to use one garbage collector for many states.
20:12 <wrtlprnft> aaah
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6570 /private/z-man/clio/ (13 files):
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: r902@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 16:58:40 +0100
20:12 <armabot> armagetronad: new objectwrapper organisation.
20:12 <wrtlprnft> ok, it's grabage collector apparently
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6571 /private/z-man/clio/ (. state.cpp test.cpp):
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: r903@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 17:31:34 +0100
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: Two states using the same GC without exit crash. But something is still not
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: right.
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6572 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files):
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: r904@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 18:16:58 +0100
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: Yay! Garbage collector sharing is working now.
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6573 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion.hpp dataconversion_extended.hpp):
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: r905@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 19:18:29 +0100
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: Adapted data conversion to new wrapper handling.
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6574 /private/z-man/clio/ (11 files):
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: r906@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 21:13:56 +0100
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: Begun work on function overloads
20:13 <wrtlprnft> we're already on the front page of http://cia.navi.cx/ :)
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6575 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files):
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: r907@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 23:36:08 +0100
20:13 <armabot> armagetronad: Restored AA compatibility.
20:14 <wrtlprnft> 170 more and we're #1
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6576 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion_extended.hpp):
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: r909@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 23:51:34 +0100
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: added missing instantiation.
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6577 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files):
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: r910@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 00:00:11 +0100
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: Simplified glue code instantiation.
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6578 /private/z-man/clio/ (. gcpointer.hpp iclassinfo.cpp iclassinfo.hpp test.cpp):
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: r911@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 10:42:16 +0100
20:14 <armabot> armagetronad: const-noncorrectness to allow gc pointers to const objects
20:15 <wrtlprnft> 2 more and we have mono
20:15 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6579 /private/z-man/clio/ (10 files):
20:15 <armabot> armagetronad: r912@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 11:55:09 +0100
20:15 <armabot> armagetronad: Basic function overloads are working.
20:15 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6580 /private/z-man/clio/ (9 files):
20:15 <armabot> armagetronad: r913@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 18:42:28 +0100
20:15 <armabot> armagetronad: Overloads now can depend on conversion quality.
20:15 <armabot> armagetronad: Function arguments are still evaluated multiple times.
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6581 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files):
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: r914@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 19:08:06 +0100
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: slightly better error messages.
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6582 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files):
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: r915@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 19:30:23 +0100
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Got rid of multiple evaluation of function arguments for overloaded functions.
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6583 /private/z-man/clio/ (7 files):
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: r916@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 20:14:38 +0100
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Good error messages.
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6584 /private/z-man/clio/ (. classname.hpp functioninfo.hpp test.cpp):
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: r917@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 20:25:16 +0100
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: Various compilation fixes
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6585 /private/z-man/clio/ (. functioninfo_single.hpp objectwrapper.cpp test.cpp):
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: r918@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-24 20:37:30 +0100
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixed various regression errors.
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6586 /private/z-man/clio/ (. gcpointer.hpp ifunctioninfo.cpp ifunctioninfo.hpp):
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: r919@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-25 11:25:05 +0100
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: Specialized GCPointer to IoObject, used it in function calls to retain
20:17 <armabot> armagetronad: evaluated arguments.
20:17 <wrtlprnft> 10 more and we have zest software, whatever that is
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6587 /private/z-man/clio/ (10 files):
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: r920@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-25 12:15:18 +0100
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: Added data conversion for smart pointers to Io objects. Experimenting with
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: template instance access via With() methods.
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6588 /private/z-man/clio/ (8 files):
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: r921@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-25 13:32:54 +0100
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: Improved overload resolution.
20:18 <Genki> hey wrtl are you busy?
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6589 /private/z-man/clio/ (9 files):
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: r922@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 10:52:26 +0100
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: More sane behaviour on overloaded functions with many arguments
20:18 <wrtlprnft> thinking about taking a shower as soon as the spam is over, but not really buys
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6590 /private/z-man/clio/ (. argumentquality.hpp):
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: r923@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 10:57:31 +0100
20:18 <armabot> armagetronad: Made it like const references to primitives
20:19 <Genki> are you good with uhhh... graphics/designs?
20:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6591 /private/z-man/clio/ (69 files in 17 dirs):
20:19 <armabot> armagetronad: r924@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 16:10:09 +0100
20:19 <armabot> armagetronad: Modularized tests.
20:19 <wrtlprnft> i'm not creative, but i do know my way around basic GIMP
20:19 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6592 /private/z-man/clio/ (8 files in 4 dirs):
20:19 <armabot> armagetronad: r925@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 16:17:57 +0100
20:19 <armabot> armagetronad: Made smart pointer tests more reliable
20:20 <wrtlprnft> 4 more and we have zest!
20:20 <DrJoeTron> I know my way around photoshop ":D
20:20 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6593 /private/z-man/clio/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
20:20 <armabot> armagetronad: r926@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 16:31:42 +0100
20:20 <armabot> armagetronad: codesize test no longer executes anything.
20:20 <Genki> would you make me a banner?
20:20 <Genki> haha
20:20 <wrtlprnft> “we”
20:20 <wrtlprnft> what kind?
20:20 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6594 /private/z-man/clio/ (. tests/codesize.test/test.cpp): r927@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 16:43:35 +0100
20:20 <Genki> umm... I dunno... I cool one for my website? lol
20:20 <wrtlprnft> you'd be better off with DrJoeTron's photoshop, err, paint skills
20:21 <DrJoeTron> I'm a pro with mspaint and photoshop "d
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6595 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
20:21 <Genki> okies
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: r928@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 16:48:11 +0100
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: Removed finished message
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6596 /private/z-man/clio/ (. tests/output.txt):
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: r929@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 16:48:33 +0100
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: err, removed test output.
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6597 /private/z-man/clio/ (. tests/codesize.test/test.cpp):
20:21 <wrtlprnft> yay, we're number 7 on today's activity list!
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: r930@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 16:54:31 +0100
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: maybe now the code gets compiled?
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6598 /private/z-man/clio/ (. tests/codesize.test/test.cpp):
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: r931@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 16:55:06 +0100
20:21 <armabot> armagetronad: argh. Wrong way round.
20:22 <Genki> Joe will you help me?
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6599 /private/z-man/clio/ (. macros.hpp tests/Makefile tests/MakefileTest):
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: r932@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 21:02:50 +0100
20:22  * wrtlprnft wonders what z-man used to make all the commits at once
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: Stop adding classes with composed names, use templates instead.
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6600 /private/z-man/clio/ (. macros.hpp):
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: r933@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 22:03:20 +0100
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: GCC 4.1.1 compatibility.
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6601 /private/z-man/clio/ (. tests/Makefile):
20:22  * wrtlprnft laughs at DrJoeTron
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: r934@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 23:16:30 +0100
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: made it so that the last edited test is run first
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6602 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
20:22 <Genki> wait.. who do I call super mista magic man?
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: r935@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-26 23:48:05 +0100
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: Made some more things template-handled instead of macro-handled
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6603 /private/z-man/clio/ (. argumentquality.hpp macros.hpp):
20:22 <Genki> was it Todd or Joe?
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: r936@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-27 00:41:57 +0100
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: Tweaked some more templateness into it. Made argument conversion dislike
20:23 <DrJoeTron> supa rockin mista magic
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: plain IoObjects.
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6604 /private/z-man/clio/ (. tests/templates.test/test.cpp):
20:23 <@guru3> wrtlprnft: must be cause he's back from portugal
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: r937@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-27 00:42:06 +0100
20:23 <Genki> ooo
20:23 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034248116.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["" 'Tis the season to be jolly, falalalalalalalala.""]
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: More templateness.
20:23 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i guessed that
20:23 <Genki> supa rockin mista magic wanna help?
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6605 /private/z-man/clio/ (. macros.hpp tests/templates.test/test.cpp):
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: r938@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-27 20:54:06 +0100
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: If you use CLIO_TEMPLATE_CLASS_MASTER, template instances can be accessed
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: via a With method of the master.
20:23 <DrJoeTron> got a preference?
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6606 /private/z-man/clio/ (. macros.hpp):
20:23 <wrtlprnft> but i still wonder what he used :P
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: r939@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-27 22:52:06 +0100
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: GCC 4.1.1 compatibility
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6607 /private/z-man/clio/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: r940@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-27 23:49:12 +0100
20:23 <armabot> armagetronad: Yay, integer template classes are accessible!
20:23 <@guru3> wrtlprnft: who knows. i wonder if it'll stop now
20:24 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i can make it stop if you like
20:24 <@guru3> it's ok
20:24 <@guru3> looks like it's done now
20:24 <wrtlprnft> she!
20:24 <DrJoeTron> Genki, got a preference?
20:24 <@guru3> it :P
20:24 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6608 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion.hpp dataconversion_extended.hpp totype.hpp):
20:24 <armabot> armagetronad: r941@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-27 23:53:08 +0100
20:24 <armabot> armagetronad: GCC 4.1.1 compatibility
20:24 <wrtlprnft> :D
20:24 <@guru3> nooooooooooooo
20:24 <wrtlprnft> 15 more and we have pld
20:24 <wrtlprnft> “we” again
20:25 <wrtlprnft> z-man's already the most active author today
20:25 <wrtlprnft> this feels like watching a soccer game
20:25 <wrtlprnft> though i hate soccer
20:25 <DrJoeTron> the heck is goin gon?
20:25 <DrJoeTron> going*
20:25 <wrtlprnft> more like watching an exciting fortress game
20:25 <DrJoeTron>  on*
20:25 <DrJoeTron> thats not very exciting
20:25 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6609 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files):
20:25 <armabot> armagetronad: r942@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 11:11:29 +0100
20:25 <armabot> armagetronad: Io names are now properly Io names.
20:25 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6610 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
20:25 <armabot> armagetronad: r943@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 11:29:07 +0100
20:25 <armabot> armagetronad: primitive references now get a good name.
20:25 <DrJoeTron> like watching a squirrel dodge traffic!
20:25 <wrtlprnft> the spam isn't, but the stats on http://cia.navi.cx/ are
20:26 <@guru3> looks like z-man doesn't like his relatives
20:26 <@guru3> if he had all the time over christmas to do that
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6611 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files):
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: r944@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 12:59:35 +0100
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: Begun transforming registration name determination.
20:26 <wrtlprnft> the commits seem to be pretty small bits, mostly
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6612 /private/z-man/clio/ (. macros.hpp):
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: r945@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 13:11:53 +0100
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: More transistion work
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6613 /private/z-man/clio/ (. macros.hpp):
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: r946@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 14:03:50 +0100
20:26 <armabot> armagetronad: space savings.
20:26 <wrtlprnft> probably you'd make one big commit for every 20 small commits if it was live.
20:26 <wrtlprnft> *life?
20:26 <wrtlprnft> 8 more!
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6614 /private/z-man/clio/ (6 files):
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: r947@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 14:34:00 +0100
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: more code size improvements
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6615 /private/z-man/clio/ (. Makefile):
20:27 <@guru3> ahhh i know
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: r948@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 15:18:40 +0100
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: reverted
20:27 <@guru3> zman was using a local repository on his laptop
20:27 <@guru3> that's why it's got blah@gonzo in there
20:27 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
20:27 <@guru3> and he's synced the repository
20:27 <wrtlprnft> that's what i was assuming, too
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6616 /private/z-man/clio/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: r949@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 15:55:57 +0100
20:27 <wrtlprnft> i just wonder how he did it :P
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: Now, three names for every class are clearly maintained:
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: The C++ name, the name a class is registered with in Io with its parent
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: nesting class, and the string it can be reached with from the Io lobby.
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6617 /private/z-man/clio/ (. iclassinfo.hpp macros.hpp):
20:27 <@guru3> then what's the point of saying you don't know how he did it ><
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: r950@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 16:34:08 +0100
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: Moved Instantiator<> definition to iclassinfo.hpp.
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6618 /private/z-man/clio/ (11 files in 3 dirs):
20:28 <armabot> armagetronad: r952@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 19:12:55 +0100
20:28 <armabot> armagetronad: Added test for multi-unit compilation. It fails.
20:28 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6619 /private/z-man/clio/ (. tests/MakefileTestBase): r953@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 19:13:27 +0100
20:28 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6620 /private/z-man/clio/ (. tests/Makefile tests/MakefileTest):
20:28 <armabot> armagetronad: r954@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 19:16:55 +0100
20:28 <armabot> armagetronad: corrected makefiles.
20:28 <wrtlprnft> guru3: what command line you use to make a copy, then how you work in it, and then how you spam this channel as you get home
20:28 <wrtlprnft> 3 more!
20:28 <@guru3> ah
20:28 <@guru3> that level of how
20:29 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that :)
20:29 <@guru3> that :/
20:30 <wrtlprnft> it finished?
20:30 <wrtlprnft> aww
20:30 <@guru3> last time we said that
20:30 <@guru3> there were 8 more commits
20:30 <wrtlprnft> i hope there will be again
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20:31 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes missed all the good stugg
20:31 <wrtlprnft> *stuff
20:31 <Vanhayes> ?
20:32 <@guru3> you heard 'em Vanhayes 
20:32 <@guru3> you missed the stugg
20:32 <Vanhayes> #realchatlogs
20:32 <armabot> Vanhayes: http://master3.armagetronad.net/armalogs/
20:32 <wrtlprnft> the spam, the kicking spidey and deja_vu_, how we got ghableska to tell us his password
20:32 <@guru3> the stugg.
20:32 <Vanhayes> heh
20:32 <@guru3> the.
20:32 <Vanhayes> this all happened in the 5 minutes i was away?
20:32 <@guru3> stugg.
20:33 <wrtlprnft> Vanhayes: look a bit up, or search for the word PRIVMSG
20:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6621 /armagetronad/branches/Io/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
20:33 <armabot> armagetronad: r908@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-23 23:37:45 +0100
20:33 <armabot> armagetronad: Wrappers for nConfItem activated.
20:33 <armabot> armagetronad: Restored tString conversion.
20:33 <wrtlprnft> and start reading a bit above that
20:33 <wrtlprnft> yay!!!
20:33 <z-man> hehe, that's the other branch :)
20:33 <wrtlprnft> 2 more!
20:33 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6622 /armagetronad/branches/Io/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
20:33 <armabot> armagetronad: r951@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-28 16:36:09 +0100
20:33 <armabot> armagetronad: Experiment: how good would it work to replace all smart pointers with Clio
20:33 <armabot> armagetronad: Garbage Collecting pointers? Result: The compiler did not complain.
20:33 <@guru3> :s
20:34 <wrtlprnft> was it only the compiler that didn't complain?
20:34 <z-man> that's SVK at work, for those wondering.
20:35 <wrtlprnft> ah
20:35 <@guru3> we had a vauge idea that was it
20:35 <@guru3> wrtlprnft wants the "how"
20:35 <@guru3> or really "that" how
20:35 <z-man> yes, The linker did complain. I didn't instantiate the factories because they wouldn't have worked anyway.
20:35 <wrtlprnft> oh
20:35 <wrtlprnft> i was more like thinking if the game was complaing, ie refusing to run
20:36 <z-man> That would probably have been the next step of failure, yes.
20:36 <z-man> GC is pretty much different when it comes to the result than Reference Counting.
20:37 <z-man> You don't get a well defined destruction sequence, and it can be quite a while between the time an object is no longer needed and the time it gets destroyed.
20:37  * wrtlprnft only has a vague idea of how GC works anyways
20:37 <z-man> And I think some of my code is relying on destructors getting called right when the object is no longer needed.
20:39 <wrtlprnft> something totally different now that you're actually in here and talking: is there any fast and reliable way to count how many people are REALLY on a team?
20:39 <wrtlprnft> counting the team's members also lists those who left during the round
20:42 <z-man> Hmm, no, no way, I think. The actual number of people alive on a team is all that actually matters anyway, once you're dead, who cares whether you're still on or have left?
20:43 <wrtlprnft> you may wanna know how many people are on the server
20:43 <wrtlprnft> or which team has a player advantage, on nonbalanced server
20:43 <wrtlprnft> *servers
20:47 <z-man> Hmm, then add the appropriate counting function if you think it is needed. My thinking is probably locked on one time spawn type gameplay.
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20:56 <wrtlprnft> i might try to see what the code that puts you on a team when you join does, it obviously knows how to count properly
20:58 <z-man> I think simply that at the time the sorting is done, at the beginning of the round, the players who left are already dumped from the team list.
20:59 <z-man> Oh, you simply may try to change the "player left" code to do that immediately, I can't remember any bad side effects that could have.
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21:34 <Durka> #hello
21:34 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Hey, if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something || stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! || -- Homer Simpson || Mr. Plow
21:34 <Durka> not funny ^^^
21:35 <Vanhayes> #lastseen Vanhayes 
21:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes has last been seen on ¦Ö¦Server: Fortress 1 minutes ago.
21:36 <Vanhayes> #lastseen Vanhayes2
21:36 <armabot> Vanhayes: Vanhayes2 has last been seen on ¦Ö¦Server: Fortress 1 minutes ago.
21:37 <Lucifer_arma> http://milktoastkc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5&sid=9651b87a7864ab02903f4bae98b4f2ac
21:40 <Durka> lmao
21:40 <Durka> come into |x| fortress luci
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> no
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> “Look, I’ve given up on arguing about the existence or non-existence of a designer. What I am suggesting is that this so-called intelligent designer might have been going to school on the short bus,” Case said.
21:42 <Lucifer_arma> http://milktoastkc.com/unintelligent.html
21:43 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails |x
21:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “|x” at the moment, sorry.
21:43 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails |
21:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit}: Players (4/10): ={S}=$yY, ={S}=Chrysler, ={S}=|VÅND3TTÅ|, Wishbone
21:43 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails fortress
21:43 <Durka> #serverdetails Server: Fortress
21:43 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¦Ö¦Server: Fortress: Players (16/16): /me pokes van, Angel Sanctuary, buGzi, Him/Herself, Vanhayes, VanHayes10, VanHayes11, Vanhayes2, Vanhayes3, Vanhayes4, Vanhayes5, Vanhayes6, Vanhayes7, Vanhayes8, VanHayes9, °°ereako
21:43 <armabot> Durka: ¦Ö¦Server: Fortress: Players (16/16): /me pokes van, Angel Sanctuary, buGzi, Him/Herself, Vanhayes, VanHayes10, VanHayes11, Vanhayes2, Vanhayes3, Vanhayes4, Vanhayes5, Vanhayes6, Vanhayes7, Vanhayes8, VanHayes9, °°ereako
21:43 <Durka> lol
21:48 <Vanhayes> ya thats a little weird
21:51 <Durka> lmao
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21:54 <Durka> genki
21:54 <Genki> yesh?
21:55 <Genki> how can I help you? ^_^
21:55 <Durka> i finished
21:55 <Genki> O.O
21:55 <Genki> wow
21:55 <Durka> i need a logo
21:55 <Durka> http://genki.freehostia.com/portal.php
21:55 <Genki> >.< I have no idea how to make one
21:55 <Durka> lmao
21:55 <Durka> photoshop
21:56 <Durka> anything
21:56 <Genki> Don't know how, I'm on a Mac ^_^
21:56 <Durka> ummm
21:56 <Comsn> #armaservers
21:56 <armabot> Comsn: Error: Couldn't get RSS feed.
21:56 <Durka> get someone to make u one
21:56 <@guru3> ><
21:56 <@guru3> took a minute to load
21:56 <Genki> hey tank
21:56 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
21:56 <Durka> tank!
21:56 <Comsn> damn
21:56 <Comsn> #serverdetails fortress
21:56 <Genki> tank can you make me a logo? lol
21:56 <armabot> Comsn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (11/14): <~DD~> !, buGzi, Dealerschlumpf, gd, HoA¦Ö¦	aok yosh, Kaylong, Mercury, MMMMIIIITTTT, Player 1, Pluto, {meh}
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21:56 <Comsn> argh
21:57 <guru3> haha well
21:57 <Durka> u there tank?
21:57 <guru3> yeah
21:57 <guru3> but i can easily pretend not to be
21:57 <Durka> o ya have tank do one of his graphic things
21:57 <Comsn> #serverdetails team sumo
21:57 <armabot> Comsn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (5/12): Angel Sanctuary, G5, Kamakazi, Vanhayes, °¯freak
21:57 <Durka> i got kicked from team sumo
21:57 <wrtlprnft> they don't seem to have such a bad taste after all
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21:58 <Genki> whoa, that was weird
21:58 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:58 <Genki> Thanks Durka!
21:58 <Genki> dunno got logged out
21:58 <Durka> lol
21:58  * Genki must find a way to repay Durka
21:59 <Durka> dont quit tron
21:59 <Durka> thats a way :p
21:59 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:59 <Genki> wait what do I call Joe again? supa mista magic man?
22:00 <guru3> so yeah Durka what do you want
22:00 <wrtlprnft> call him teh paint master
22:00 <Genki> ugh Durka you should know why i want to quit
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22:00 <Genki> supa mista magic paint man
22:01 <Genki> you know it would be really helpful if I knew how to use a Mac lol
22:01 <Durka> to van
22:01 <Durka> yo*
22:01 <Vanhayes_> to Durka: yo
22:01 <wrtlprnft> uo van
22:02 <Vanhayes_> uo wrtlprnft
22:02 <wrtlprnft> uo uo!
22:03 <Vanhayes_> ou even
22:03 <wrtlprnft> up!
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22:04 <epsy> hi
22:04 <Genki> yellow
22:05 <epsy> nice color :P
22:05 <wrtlprnft> yellow?
22:05 <Genki> ^_^ blue is better
22:05 <Genki> yellow = hello
22:05 <wrtlprnft> orange is best
22:05 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:06 <Genki> O.o
22:06 <Genki> Durka?
22:06 <epsy> öÖ
22:06 <wrtlprnft> darn dot people
22:06  * Genki pokes Durka
22:06 <Genki> dot...
22:06 <wrtlprnft> ë_Ë
22:06 <Genki> ˚.ø
22:07 <wrtlprnft> º·º
22:07 <Genki> ˚-˚
22:07 <Genki> lol
22:07 <wrtlprnft> √_√
22:08 <Durka> ya
22:08 <Durka> ¬_¬
22:08 <Genki> So.. are you gonna make more categories like I had? or do I do that?
22:08 <epsy> ehm, i've a little question
22:09 <Genki> shoot
22:09 <epsy> still about sty
22:09 <epsy> where's calculated balls phisics in styball?
22:09 <Genki> O.O
22:09 <Genki> physics?
22:09 <epsy> well
22:09 <wrtlprnft> epsy: sec, i had them
22:11 <wrtlprnft> gBallZoneHack::OnEnter
22:11 <epsy> well, not to the player
22:11 <epsy> to zones
22:12 <wrtlprnft> what do you mean?
22:12 <wrtlprnft> that's the physics code that makes balls bounce if you hit them
22:12 <epsy> it seems there is another diameter to the ball
22:12 <wrtlprnft> ?
22:13 <epsy> ..
22:13 <epsy> suppose i'm using that map:
22:13 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/nearfar-0.0.1.png
22:14 <wrtlprnft> yeah?
22:14 <wrtlprnft> those zones are balls?
22:14 <epsy> the problem happens when a ball comes 
22:14 <epsy> ..
22:14 <epsy> no the ball is at the opposite of the players
22:14 <epsy> right of the map
22:14 <wrtlprnft> i can't see it, but ok.
22:15 <wrtlprnft> let it be where it wants to be.
22:15 <epsy> when the ball bounces to the balls that surround the two baqses
22:15 <epsy> one or both are conquerred
22:15 <epsy> see what i mean?
22:15 <wrtlprnft> ball bounces to the balls?
22:15 <wrtlprnft> ball bounces to the walls?
22:16 <wrtlprnft> ball wounces to the balls?
22:16 <wrtlprnft> ball wounces to the walls?
22:16 <epsy> :p
22:16 <wrtlprnft> err, you get what i mean
22:16 <epsy> wait i open gimp and make a weird shema
22:17 <wrtlprnft> ok :)
22:17 <wrtlprnft> i don't really get what you're talking about
22:19 <epsy> http://epsy.is-a-geek.org:4539/~epsy/screenshots/nearfar-0.0.1-upsala.png
22:19 <epsy> see my artistic talent ><
22:19 <wrtlprnft> ooh
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22:19 <wrtlprnft> there you
22:19 <wrtlprnft> 'd need the collision-detecting physics
22:20 <epsy> well it's also bouncing to walls
22:20 <wrtlprnft> obviously it would need to bounce before checking for zones
22:20 <epsy> well, when i play styball
22:21 <epsy> i see there is some bonce diameter that is different to the visual ball
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22:21 <epsy> i can have a ping of 90 or of 220, it's same
22:22 <wrtlprnft> i don't know those details, lemme check
22:22 <epsy> idea which file?
22:22 <epsy> gWinZone?
22:23 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:23 <epsy> k
22:23 <epsy> hm
22:23 <epsy> no time now
22:23 <epsy> i know now where to see :)
22:23 <wrtlprnft> search for wallBouncesLeft_
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22:23 <wrtlprnft> cya
22:24 <epsy> cya
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22:47 <Durka> wrtlpwnd |me| !
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22:50  * Durka pokes ghab
22:50 <ghableska_> hi Durka
22:50 <ghableska_> hmm
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22:52 <Vanhayes_> wb ghableska
22:52 <Vanhayes_> what you to good for the _?
22:54 <ghableska> haha
23:06 <Comsn> #serverinfo cafe
23:06 <armabot> Comsn: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): Legionnaire, ^_^.exe
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23:19 <Wazer> hi
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23:44 <Comsn> #serverinfo cafe
23:44 <armabot> Comsn: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): free kill, G5, Kamakazi, Legionnaire, madmax, Radian, Sky, {Super} Duck!, ~*SP*~Sasha, ¦Ö¦W4z3r, ¦×¥Rico, °¯pixel, °°@shitakA
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23:44 <guru3> #serverinfo classic
23:44 <armabot> guru3: Tigers Network Classic Play: Players (5/16): 0xf00000Corrupt, Andy, Froggy@fr, Gab, xyz
23:45 <Durka> #hello again
23:45 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: More than any time in history, mankind now faces a crossroads. One path || leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total extinction. || Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly. || -- Woody Allen, "Side Effects"
23:47 <guru3> damn people on my server
23:47 <Durka> hi tank
23:49 <guru3> #serverinfo Durka 
23:49 <armabot> guru3: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “durka” at the moment, sorry.
23:49 <Durka> lmao
23:49 <Durka> #serverinfo land
23:49 <armabot> Durka: |/| Ghostland |\| NEW MAP!!!: Players (4/12): Freshfondelair, GROS MOUTEUX, s@55@r, {wT}Çú§såðg
23:49 <Durka> hmm
23:50 <Durka> #serverinfo durka
23:50 <armabot> Durka: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “durka” at the moment, sorry.
23:50 <Durka> wtf?
23:50 <Durka> #serverinfo ff9900
23:50 <armabot> Durka: ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900: Players (7/14): +SST+ maxPayne, >>Jojo<<, Abhor, cachinero, Curtis 14, harrythegreek, k3nny
23:50 <Durka> there we go
23:50 <Durka> i 4got its spaces between each letter
23:50 <Durka> this should work
23:50 <Durka> #serverinfo D u r k a
23:50 <armabot> Durka: ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900: Players (7/14): +SST+ maxPayne, >>Jojo<<, Abhor, cachinero, Curtis 14, harrythegreek, k3nny

Log from 2006-12-30:
--- Day changed Sat Dec 30 2006
00:01 <Durka> anyone here?
00:02 <ghableska> No.
00:02 <Durka> ok
00:07 <guru3> haha this cycle's rear wheel is going backwards :D
00:07 <ghableska> O_o
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00:23 <mkzelda> Who maintains the layman overlay?
00:24 <mkzelda> and would you add ~sparc to the list of KEYWORDS?
00:24 <wrtlprnft> “the” layman overlay?
00:24 <wrtlprnft> there's many
00:24 <wrtlprnft> layman -L IIRC
00:25 <mkzelda> no
00:25 <mkzelda> i mean the arma
00:25 <wrtlprnft> ooh
00:25 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr_work
00:25 <wrtlprnft> probably
00:25 <mkzelda> figured
00:26 <mkzelda> it works, as well as parallelizes nicely
00:27 <ghableska> #weather 50265
00:27 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 53.6°F (4:54 PM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa. 
00:29 <Durka> hey dook
00:29 <mkzelda> jeu
00:29 <mkzelda> hey
00:29 <mkzelda>      Fri Dec 29 23:21:56 2006 >>> games-action/armagetronad-0.3.0
00:29 <mkzelda>        merge time: 5 minutes and 38 seconds.
00:29 <Comsn> jebus
00:29 <Comsn> the noobs come to fort cafe a lot
00:29 <mkzelda> on my 440mhz sparc
00:29 <wrtlprnft> huh?
00:30 <Comsn> just noob after noob ;\
00:30 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: I just read over the chat logs from before :P
00:30 <wrtlprnft> how do you get that merge time thing?
00:30 <mkzelda> lol
00:30 <wrtlprnft> ghableska: so, do you hate me now?
00:30 <mkzelda> genlop
00:30 <ghableska> and I think I've recovered
00:30 <ghableska> nah
00:30 <wrtlprnft> will you still do whatever i'm saying?
00:30 <mkzelda> emerge genlop, genlop -t packagename
00:30 <ghableska> probably :P
00:30 <mkzelda> genlop -c for current merge, estimated finish time
00:30 <wrtlprnft> sounds nice
00:32 <wrtlprnft> note that someone could have kicked me, too, if they had just tried
00:32 <wrtlprnft> because when i was actually trying to help you i executed the command to chenge my pass
00:33 <ghableska> heh
00:34 <guru3> trying to play on ctwf
00:34 <wrtlprnft> mkzelda: 3:35 here, but this machine is running at 1.3GHz
00:34 <guru3> i feel bad
00:34 <guru3> for people that first try to play there
00:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
00:34 <mkzelda>      Fri Dec 29 18:31:26 2006 >>> games-action/armagetronad-0.3.0
00:34 <mkzelda>        merge time: 3 minutes and 44 seconds.
00:34 <guru3> really bad
00:35 <wrtlprnft> it's like that with many fortress servers
00:35 <mkzelda> thats a 1.6
00:35 <wrtlprnft> actually slower?
00:35 <wrtlprnft> well, as if raw clock rate counted
00:35 <mkzelda> p4
00:35 <wrtlprnft> this is a pentium-m
00:35 <wrtlprnft> also my emerge is always niced 20
00:36 <mkzelda>  4 minutes and 3 seconds. ... p4 1.9
00:36 <guru3> i keep killing myself
00:36 -!- Durka is now known as Durka-away4-1hr
00:36 <wrtlprnft> darn thing is full
00:36 <Durka-away4-1hr> did it work
00:36 <Durka-away4-1hr> w00t
00:36 <wrtlprnft> i wanna see how guru3 is playing
00:37 <guru3> no don't
00:37 <guru3> i'm doing crap
00:37 <guru3> getting about 20fps at lowest settings
00:37 <guru3> cause i'm on my laptop
00:37 <guru3> it's one of my worst ever tron experiences
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00:44 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: come to styball :P
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00:48 <wrtlprnft> nah, i#m gonna go to bed
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01:01 <wrtlprnft> thanks to genlop and mkzelda i now know that reemerging my entire system would only take two days… this can't be right?
01:07 <wrtlprnft> #night
01:07 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
01:08 <ghableska> night
02:00 <ghableska> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35108
02:00 <ghableska> hahaha
02:06 <spidey> #last --with spidey --nolimit
02:06 <spidey> #last --from --nolimit --with spidey --nolimit
02:06 <ghableska> O_o
02:06 <spidey> #ping
02:06 <spidey> ..
02:06 <ghableska> #ping
02:07 <ghableska> #weather 50265
02:09 <armabot> spidey: [20:32:36] <wrtlprnft> the spam, the kicking spidey and deja_vu_, how we got ghableska to tell us his password, [16:20:59] <wrtlprnft> and i still think only spidey (hi there!) should have been kicked as he started it, and deja_vu_ (hi there you too!) should have gotten a warning for joining his child's play, [16:20:04] <wrtlprnft> but kicking spidey isn't a bad thing, [16:19:42] <ghableska> why wasn't spidey (16 more messages)
02:09 <armabot> spidey: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
02:10 <armabot> pong
02:10 <armabot> pong
02:10 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 51.8°F (6:54 PM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa. 
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02:13 <spidey> i'm getting a dsl line 
02:13 <ghableska> from what?
02:13 <spidey> >.>
02:13 <spidey> bellsouth
02:14 <ghableska> no, what did you have before?
02:14 <spidey> cable
02:14 <spidey> and
02:14 <spidey> i'm keeping it
02:14 <spidey> :|
02:14 <spidey> dsl is 6mbit down and 512kbit up
02:14 <spidey> just getting it to see if the quality will be better than my cable
02:15 <spidey> i know it couldn't get any worse :|
02:18 <luke-jr> mkzelda: sparc works or doesn't?
02:19 <luke-jr> spidey: cable *and* DSL? O.o
02:19 <luke-jr> spidey: see if you can get Speakeasy :)
02:19 <spidey> i can't
02:19 <luke-jr> o
02:19 <spidey> bellsouth is the only one that provides here
02:20 <spidey> bellsouth for dsl and charter for cable
02:22 <luke-jr> spidey: what's your ph #?
02:22 <spidey> ...
02:22 <spidey> it's on the domain thingy
02:22 <spidey> umm. sec
02:22 <spidey> 731-642-9348
02:22 <spidey> that be it
02:23 <luke-jr> hm, you can get an OC3 for $60/mo O.o
02:30 <spidey> wtf
02:31 <spidey> where!?
02:33 <spidey> luke-jr, 
03:15 <Vanhayes> #ping
03:15 <armabot> pong
03:15 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
03:16 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 14°F / -10°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.52in / 1033hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM AST; Tonight - A few clouds. Wind northwest 30 km/h gusting to 50. Low minus 14. Cold wind chill minus 25 overnight.; Saturday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Increasing cloudiness in the afternoon with 70 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 20 (1 more message)
03:17 <ghableska> #weather 50265
03:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 50.0°F (7:54 PM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa. 
03:17 <Vanhayes> #more
03:17 <armabot> Vanhayes: km/h gusting to 40. High minus 4. Saturday night..cloudy with 70 percent chance of flurries in the evening. Clearing overnight. Wind west 20 km/h becoming northwest 30 gusting to 50 near midnight. Low minus 11.; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud. High minus 4.;
03:17 <luke-jr> spidey: 
03:17 <spidey> where?
03:17 <luke-jr> o
03:18 <luke-jr> i forgot to say
03:18 <luke-jr> j/k
03:18 <luke-jr> :)
03:18 <spidey> >:|
03:18 <luke-jr> you wish :p
03:18 <spidey> hell yea..
03:18  * luke-jr imagines you'd be CEO of some big company within a year or smth :p
03:19 <spidey> oc3...of course xD
03:19 <spidey> who needs a dedicated server then, could host myself!
03:19 <luke-jr> heh
03:20 <spidey> i want verizon fios
03:20 <spidey> they got a package i think it's like 15mbit down and 2mbit up or something for $50
03:20 <spidey> i think
03:23 <spidey> debian:/home/soldat-server# ./soldatserver
03:23 <spidey> -bash: ./soldatserver: Permission denied
03:23 <spidey> ^^wtf
03:24 <spidey> nvm
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03:30 <ghableska> :/
03:48 <Vanhayes> luke-jr: you have a very weird styball strategy
03:49 <luke-jr> thanks
03:49 <luke-jr> I made it up as I went along
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04:04 <ghableska> luke-jr: what do you do?
04:04 <luke-jr> eh, press my 5 left-turn binds repeatedly mostly
04:05 <ghableska> o.0
04:05 <luke-jr> took out some of the enemy
04:05 <luke-jr> the only way to kill them it seems
04:06 <Vanhayes> the point of the game isnt to kill the other team, its to score a goal
04:11 <luke-jr> easier to kill off the other team
04:12 <Vanhayes> but thats not the point of the game...
04:12 <luke-jr> :)
04:12 <Vanhayes> thats like trying to kill everyone in fortress instead of trying to defend/attack the fortress
04:15 <luke-jr> Estimated update time: 2 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes.
04:15 <luke-jr> that's what I do
04:35 <Comsn> #serverdetails team sumo
04:35 <Comsn> lets go!
04:35 <armabot> Comsn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: No online players.
04:41 <Comsn> bad vanhayes
04:41 <Comsn> sliding?
04:41 <Comsn> #serverdetails team sumo
04:41 <armabot> Comsn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (3/12): infilk, Kamakazi, Vogel
04:41 <Vanhayes> really bad, have been all day
04:42 <Comsn> chico / styball hides lag
04:42 <ghableska> who's your isp?
04:46 <Vanhayes> aliant
04:50 <ghableska> http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/gtsb/JoinTheClick/Join%20the%20Click_bb.mov <-- It's a sad thought that this is the best way of informing people of seatbelt safety
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05:26 <ghableska> GodTodd: hi
05:29 <GodTodd> yo
06:01 <spidey> ?
06:03 <GodTodd> !
06:04 <ghableska> †
06:06 <ghableska> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/Death_race.jpg <-- this was controversial?
06:09 <spidey> #g 113 kbps in kb/s
06:10 <armabot> spidey: 113 kbps = 113 kilobits / second
06:10 <ghableska> ...
06:10 <spidey> ..
06:10 <ghableska> what are you trying to convert?
06:12 <spidey> #g 1mbit/s in kb/s
06:12 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:13 <spidey> #g 1mbit in kb/s
06:13 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:13 <ghableska> #g 1 mb/s in kb/s
06:13 <armabot> ghableska: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:13 <spidey> mb/s isn't mbit/s
06:13 <spidey> 1mb/s = 1024kb/s
06:13 <ghableska> oh
06:13 <spidey> 1mbit = 100kb/s
06:13 <spidey> or so
06:14 <spidey> #g 1mbit in kb
06:14 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:14 <spidey> #g 1 MB in KB
06:14 <armabot> spidey: 1 megabyte = 1,024 kilobytes
06:14 <spidey> die
06:14 <spidey> #g 1 MBIT in KB
06:14 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:15 <spidey> #g 1024kilobit in kilobyte
06:16 <spidey> luke-jr, pin
06:16 <spidey> ping
06:23 <armabot> spidey: 1,024 kilobit = 128 kilobyte
06:23 <spidey> well
06:23 <spidey> nvm armabot finally told me :D
06:26 <GodTodd> yeah...
06:26 <GodTodd> #g 1024/8
06:26 <armabot> GodTodd: 1,024 / 8 = 128
06:26 <GodTodd> :P
06:28 <ghableska> haha
06:28 <GodTodd> i may not know much but i know 1 byte == 8 bits ;)
06:42 <ghableska> #weather 50265
06:42 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (10:54 PM CST on December 29, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa. 
07:01 <ghableska> #night
07:02 <armabot> Good night ghableska!
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09:00 <spidey> luke-jr, ping
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09:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> #morning
09:50 <armabot> Good Morning [Xpert]DarkStar Random Fortune: I'll give you a definite maybe. -Samuel Goldwyn
09:50 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lol
10:05  * Lucifer_arma rubs his eyes
10:29 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
10:34 <wrtlprnft> armabot: ping
10:34 <armabot> pong
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10:47 <Lucifer_arma> heya z-man, I see you're back from the island of the lesbianos
10:47 <[Xpert]DarkStar> lol
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> you know, my theater teacher a couple semesters ago used to say his mom was born a lesbian, lived for 90-someodd years a lesbian, and died a lesbian
10:48 <[Xpert]DarkStar> wb z-man 
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> and the kids would laugh, right?
10:48 <wrtlprnft> o_O
10:48 <Lucifer_arma> then late in the semester he'd mention offhand that his mom lived on the island of lesbos :)
11:03 <DrJoeTron> well I just destryoyed my sleep schedule
11:10 <guru3> the real question here, is why did lucifer take theater
11:10 <DrJoeTron> BECAUSE HE REFUSES TO BE AN UNCULTURED SWINE!
11:10 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, required fine arts elective?
11:10 <guru3> ah, that
11:10 <guru3> same reason i took photography a couple years back
11:12 <DrJoeTron> I was a FAG in high school
11:12 <DrJoeTron> Fine Arts Guy :D
11:12 <guru3> does seem like the forums are getting more spam lately
11:12 <Lucifer_arma> so is the wiki and my inbox
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> I've seen a few news items that talk about the increase of spam over the last 4-6 months
11:13 <Lucifer_arma> it's a worldwide increase
11:13 <DrJoeTron> yeah really
11:13 <DrJoeTron> my gmail address is feeling it
11:13 <guru3> i've gotta think up a way to reduce it again :/
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> global thermonuclear war
11:14 <guru3> something easily implementable
11:14 <Lucifer_arma> tht reminds me, I need to see if there's an update to Bad Behavior
11:15 <Lucifer_arma> #g 0.12 * 1500
11:15 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: 0.12 * 1,500 = 180
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> I can't believe they didn't want my harmonica story.  :/
11:16 <Lucifer_arma> what kind of western magazine doesn't want to know why the fuck cowboys played harmonicas in the first place?
11:17 <guru3> sometimes you have too much fun with spam sometimes lucifer
11:20 <guru3> you know ive got something like 130 spam ips banned on the forums firewall
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11:37 <DrJoeTron> whats this!?\
11:37 <DrJoeTron> a pirate mmorpg?
11:37 <DrJoeTron> for free? 
11:37 <DrJoeTron> yes please ":D
11:50 <Lucifer_arma> link?
11:56 <guru3> ok
11:56 <guru3> new anti spam measures are in place
11:56 <guru3> and hopefully i didn't cock anything up by doing them :>
12:31 <wrtlprnft> guru3: what are they? :)
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12:33 <guru3> a fake registration route
12:33 <wrtlprnft> ah
12:33 <wrtlprnft> someone suggested you disallow people from posting links in their first post, wouldn't that work, too?
12:34 <guru3> no clue how to do that
12:34 <wrtlprnft> ok then, i don't know how to either
12:34 <spidey> hmm
12:34 <wrtlprnft> but it would be a sort of clean way
12:34 <guru3> yeah
12:35 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.net/layout/layout/button/button.html   <---is it just me or is there a 5 second delay between images?
12:35 <spidey> hover over one of them o.O
12:36 <wrtlprnft> well
12:36 <wrtlprnft> it's loading the button graphic as you hover
12:36 <spidey> but shouldn't it be cached after the first time?
12:36 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: you need to preload the images
12:36 <spidey> when i reload the page it's still slow
12:37 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
12:37 <wrtlprnft> because reloading means reloading everything
12:37 <wrtlprnft> or deleting the cache of everything on that page
12:37 <spidey> o
12:37 <Lucifer_arma> there's some javascript to get it to preload the image, but I always found using a hidden element worked better
12:37 <Lucifer_arma> then you use css to load the image :)
12:37 <wrtlprnft> i suggest you make one tilable background image for the gray buttons, and one for the blue ones
12:38 <wrtlprnft> then you build the buttons from the text and the background
12:38 <wrtlprnft> so you only have to preload one image
12:38 <Lucifer_arma> I thought that's what he did already, hmmm.....
12:38 <wrtlprnft> umm, and the code you're using is ancient
12:38 <Lucifer_arma> if he didn't, then yes, he should do that :)
12:38 <wrtlprnft> no, it's 2 images for every button
12:39 <wrtlprnft> and js with inline event handlers for the hovering
12:39 <wrtlprnft> it would be incredibly easy w/ css
12:39 <Lucifer_arma> wow, no wonder.  If it's just one background image that you change, and a browser fails to preload it for some reason, then you only have to wait one time and it'll be fine on all buttons
12:39 <wrtlprnft> yep
12:39 <Lucifer_arma> css has the additional advantage of having the browser preload everything anyway.
12:40 <spidey> rollover?
12:40 <wrtlprnft> #hover
12:40 <spidey> a:hover
12:40 <spidey> :p
12:40 <wrtlprnft> make something like <a href="somewhere"><img src="buttontxt.png" alt="home" /></a>
12:40 <wrtlprnft> then css
12:40 <wrtlprnft> a:hover img {
12:41 <wrtlprnft> background: url(bg-gray.png) repeat-x;
12:41 <wrtlprnft> }
12:41 <wrtlprnft> err
12:41 <wrtlprnft> a img {
12:41 <wrtlprnft> background: url(bg-gray.png) repeat-x;
12:41 <wrtlprnft> }
12:41 <wrtlprnft> a:hover img {
12:41 <wrtlprnft> background: url(bg-blue.gif) repeat-x;
12:41 <wrtlprnft> }
12:41 <wrtlprnft> that
12:41 <spidey> no-repeat
12:41 <spidey> :p
12:41 <wrtlprnft> no
12:41 <wrtlprnft> repeat-x
12:42 <Lucifer_arma> he did specify "tileable" a little while ago
12:42 <wrtlprnft> that backgound can easily be tiled
12:42 <wrtlprnft> at some 75 pixels you won't even notice the tiling
12:42 <wrtlprnft> and, looking at it, it's already tiled anyways
12:42 <Lucifer_arma> hell, it looks like spidey already tiled it by hand anyway
12:43 <Lucifer_arma> may as well let the browser do the tiling for you, you get more flexibility thataway
12:43 <spidey> ?
12:43 <wrtlprnft> less filesize = less delay before the first hover effect
12:43 <spidey> i didn't
12:43 <mkzelda> in other words, you suck
12:43 <wrtlprnft> spidey: can you make a button without text for me?
12:44 <mkzelda> :D
12:44 <wrtlprnft> but with some width to work with
12:44 <spidey> i didn't make the botton
12:44 <spidey> damien did
12:44 <Lucifer_arma> fine, he tiled it by hand :)
12:44 <mkzelda> the son of satan?
12:44 <Lucifer_arma> both buttons are clearly tiled :)
12:44 <spidey> ugh
12:44 <spidey> no
12:44 <wrtlprnft> then tell him to give you the tiles he used
12:44 <Lucifer_arma> I used to know a woman who named one kid Angelo and the other Damon
12:45 <Lucifer_arma> I always wondered if she knew she labeled them that way
12:45 <spidey> he went to bed :/
12:45 <wrtlprnft> the tiles only have a with of some 60px
12:45 <wrtlprnft> then ask him later
12:45 <spidey> k
12:45 <Lucifer_arma> and tell him not to waste your time in the future with this amateurish crap
12:45 <spidey> ..
12:46 <wrtlprnft> and tell him not to save the buttons as jpg first, then convert to gif
12:46 <wrtlprnft> it looks awful
12:46 <wrtlprnft> the static one should be saved to PNG, the animated one to gif
12:47 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, you should only use jpg when you have a sharp stick stuck up your ass
12:47 <wrtlprnft> well, it's reasonable for photos
12:47 <wrtlprnft> but not for anything with sharp corners
12:47 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, I think the problem jpg solves is well-solved by other methods, and jpg is largely obsolete now.
12:48 <Lucifer_arma> can't think of a one situation where jpg is preferred to png :)
12:48 <wrtlprnft> on the web?
12:48 <Lucifer_arma> nope
12:48 <spidey> http://www.fallin-angels.net/layout/layout/ <--that's th elayout
12:48 <spidey> i have to put together
12:48 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: err, ever tried saving a normal photo to png? it grows huge
12:49 <Lucifer_arma> decrease the quality?
12:49 <wrtlprnft> Index of /layout/layout
12:49 <wrtlprnft> nice layout
12:49 <spidey> ...
12:49 <Lucifer_arma> I convert all my photos to png using the GIMP and wind up with better quality output and smaller file sizes
12:49 <wrtlprnft> you can't easily see it on a photo, really, and it's well worth the size decrease
12:49 <spidey> it's pictures you put together
12:49 <spidey> think of it like jigsaw
12:49 <spidey> >.>
12:50 <Lucifer_arma> of course, that does mean my photos are technically retouched
12:50 <wrtlprnft> well, decoding and encoding jpg multiple times kills any images
12:50 <spidey> hey
12:51 <spidey> how do i show certian processes with top
12:51 <spidey> isn't it like
12:51 <wrtlprnft> http://www.fallin-angels.net/layout/layout/upperborder.png
12:51 <spidey> top | grep whatever^
12:51 <spidey> ?
12:51 <wrtlprnft> that's soo tilable
12:51 <wrtlprnft> err
12:51 <wrtlprnft> no
12:51 <wrtlprnft> emerge htop
12:51 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: it looks like he's aiming for a fixed layout
12:51 <wrtlprnft> that anyways
12:51 <spidey> debian:/# apt-get install htop
12:51 <spidey> :p
12:51 <Lucifer_arma> which means I pretty much have nothing else to say about it
12:51 <wrtlprnft> whatever
12:52 <Lucifer_arma> urpmi htop
12:52 <spidey> yum htop
12:52 <spidey> !
12:52 <wrtlprnft> anyways
12:52  * Lucifer_arma still wants a linux distribution built with source rpm packages
12:52 <wrtlprnft> what does thumbs.db do on the web server?
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> isn't it for windows explorer?
12:53 <spidey> nothing?
12:53 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it is
12:53 <wrtlprnft> but why the f** do you put it online?
12:53 <Lucifer_arma> because windows explorer hides it's presence, and he uploaded the whole directory?
12:54 <wrtlprnft> probably
12:54 <wrtlprnft> but it shouldn't be there
12:54 <wrtlprnft> it's evil.
12:54  * Lucifer_arma quietly notes Konqueror can generate it's thumbnails on the fly very quickly and has no need of such a thing as a thumbs.db
12:54  * wrtlprnft notes that it does save the thumbnails in ~/.thumbnails or somewhere
12:55  * Lucifer_arma notes that can be disabled
12:55 <spidey> it's there because i uploaded the directory
12:55 <Lucifer_arma> man, I"m the sherlock holmes of the internet!
12:55  * wrtlprnft notes that that's still better than polluting all directories you ever view with useless files
12:55  * Lucifer_arma agrees
12:56 <wrtlprnft> :)
12:56 <Lucifer_arma> but I prefer on-the-fly generation to any sort of thumbnail caching :)
12:56 <wrtlprnft> wow
12:56 <Lucifer_arma> mom
12:56 <wrtlprnft> this file consists of at least 1KB 00s and FFs
12:57 <Lucifer_arma> gif?
12:57 <spidey> ¢
12:58 <Lucifer_arma> A judge ruled Friday that congressional aspirant Christine Jennings has no right to examine the source code that runs the electronic voting machines at the center of a disputed Southwest Florida congressional race.
12:58 <spidey> ™š¢£¤¥¦§¨
12:58 <spidey> o.O
12:58 <Lucifer_arma> that really sucks.
12:58 <wrtlprnft> athias@laptop $ file Thumbs.db                                                                             ~
12:58 <wrtlprnft> Thumbs.db: Microsoft Installer
12:58 <wrtlprnft> last time i tried to file one of these things it was considered an ms word document
12:58 <Lucifer_arma> that is the suckiest information I've received all month
13:00 <spidey> 8 days :/
13:00 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop 1 $ msiexec /i Thumbs.db                                                                     ~
13:00 <wrtlprnft> err:msi:MSI_OpenDatabaseW storage GUID is not a MSI database GUID {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}
13:00 <wrtlprnft> aww
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13:16 <DrJoeTron> spidey, 
13:17 <DrJoeTron> spidey smells like flammin' hot cheetos and cheap wine
13:43 <DrJoeTron> pirates :D
13:50 <spidey> ?
13:52 <spidey> DrJoeTron, defcon
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13:53 <spidey> #g 384kbit in kb
13:54 <spidey> #g 384 kbit/s in kb/s
13:54 <spidey> Lucifer_arma, ping
13:54 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: pong
13:54 <spidey> what's the equation for kbits => kb/s
13:54 <wrtlprnft> /8
13:54 <spidey> o
13:55 <wrtlprnft> wow, that's REALLY basic
13:55 <spidey> heh
13:55 <wrtlprnft> #g 384 kbit/s in KB/s
13:55 <spidey> i used to know...just forgot
13:55 <spidey> it's 48
13:55 <wrtlprnft> #ping
13:55 <wrtlprnft> i wanna fix armabot x_X
13:55 <Lucifer_arma> don't ask me, I don't even know how bit a byte is
13:55 <spidey> reboot your server?
13:55 <spidey> lol
13:55 <wrtlprnft> nah
13:56 <wrtlprnft>  13:56:26 up 44 days, 23:38,  2 users,  load average: 4.92, 3.24, 2.15
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13:56 <spidey>  16:28:50 up 8 days, 15:33,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
13:56 <wrtlprnft> it's sort of busy
13:56 <spidey> i don't understand why it's at 0.00 0.00 0.0
13:56 <Lucifer_arma> 07:00:52 up 10 days, 11:02,  2 users,  load average: 0.77, 0.24, 0.11
13:56 <spidey> it has like 3 servers running and something else
13:56 <spidey> one of the servers is in use
13:57 <spidey> and it's only a 375mhz p2
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> isn't it just divide by 8, anyway?
13:57 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: did you try just restarting armabot?
13:58 <wrtlprnft> heh, i need to wait for my server to let me in
13:58 <spidey> haha
13:58 <Lucifer_arma> >>> 384.0/8.0
13:58 <Lucifer_arma> 48.0
13:58 <spidey> yea
13:58 <spidey> so i'll go from
13:58 <spidey> 25kb/s up to 48kb/s up
13:58 <wrtlprnft> wow
13:59 <wrtlprnft> armabot has a running time of 23.25 hours
13:59 <wrtlprnft> that's plain CPU time
13:59 <spidey> i should get the fastest package...only $5 more  and it's 64kb/s up
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> definitely time to restart her
13:59 <spidey> it*
13:59 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
13:59 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
13:59 <armabot> pong
13:59 <spidey> lol
13:59 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
13:59 <wrtlprnft> lol!
13:59 <wrtlprnft> i didn't even do anything
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> wow
13:59 <Lucifer_arma> #ping
13:59 <armabot> pong
13:59 <spidey> <spidey> it's 4
14:00 <wrtlprnft> i guess that fixed itself
14:00 <wrtlprnft> as i said, the server was busy
14:00 <wrtlprnft> generating stats
14:00 <Lucifer_arma> it's amazing how many things you can fix just by looking at it
14:00 <spidey> lol
14:02 <Lucifer_arma> 	"lemme guess, you'd like guru3 to get more into you?"
14:04 <Lucifer_arma> During this 615-day reporting period, a total of 834 different nicks were represented on #armagetron.
14:05 <Lucifer_arma> it's those nixda bastards coming in here with randomly generated names
14:05 <Lucifer_arma> and luke-jr using like 200 variations of the work "luke"
14:05 <spidey> http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/12/29/where-to-get-recent-mysql-version/
14:05 <spidey> soooooooooo
14:05 <spidey> who's gonna buy mysql?
14:05 <spidey> a copy of mysql*
14:05 <Lucifer_arma> not me, fuck those guys
14:06 <Lucifer_arma> they've always smelled like someone who was ultimately going to turn on everyone
14:06 <spidey> heh
14:06 <spidey> onlything i use mysql for is forums...
14:08 <DrJoeTron> word
14:09 <spidey> #g 48 / 5
14:09 <armabot> spidey: 48 / 5 = 9.6
14:10 <spidey> hmm
14:10 <spidey> wtf
14:10 <spidey> i can host 8 people on tron without lag at 25kb/s
14:10 <spidey> #g 25 / 8
14:10 <armabot> spidey: 25 / 8 = 3.12500
14:10 <spidey> #g 48/3
14:10 <armabot> spidey: 48 / 3 = 16
14:11 <wrtlprnft> spidey: always depends on the server
14:11 <spidey> i host dogfighting servers when i do
14:11 <spidey> slow, doublebind .001 and low rubber
14:11 <wrtlprnft> a 32 axes server with a low cycle delay, shooting, zombies and soccer will use waay more bandwidth
14:11 <spidey> heh
14:12 <spidey> nah...i just host slow, small grid servers 
14:12 <spidey> i like dogfighting
14:12 <wrtlprnft> and note that the wiki is wrong. the bandwidth usage isn't directly proportional to the number of players
14:12 <spidey> well
14:12 <wrtlprnft> it's more like O(a^x)
14:12 <spidey> ...
14:13 <spidey> wtf's 0(a^x)
14:13 <wrtlprnft> a being some constant and x the number of players
14:13 <wrtlprnft> O
14:14 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
14:15 <spidey> well
14:16 <spidey> i read it, but i didn't understand a word :))
14:16 <wrtlprnft> the whole thing?
14:16 <spidey> the top part
14:16 <spidey> and some of the equations
14:16 <wrtlprnft> O is used in computer science to describe how efficient an algorithm is
14:16 <wrtlprnft> sorting, for example
14:16 <spidey> o
14:16 <spidey> see
14:17 <spidey> that's much more understandable than the wiki
14:17 <wrtlprnft> if you just go through all elements and find the smallest, save that and find the next bigger one and so on you have O(x)
14:17 <wrtlprnft> err
14:17 <wrtlprnft> O(x)
14:17 <wrtlprnft> O(x*x)
14:17 <wrtlprnft> darn keyboard
14:17 <wrtlprnft> the last one
14:17 <spidey> #g 0(x*x)
14:17 <armabot> spidey: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
14:17 <spidey> xD
14:17 <wrtlprnft> it's an O
14:17 <wrtlprnft> not a 0
14:17 <spidey> a 0?
14:17 <wrtlprnft> OOOOOOO
14:18 <spidey> 0?
14:18 <wrtlprnft> LMNOOOOOPQR
14:18 <spidey> ooooo
14:18 <spidey> O?
14:18 <wrtlprnft> yeah
14:18 <Lucifer_arma> the first letter of oh shit
14:18 <wrtlprnft> 0h shit?
14:18 <spidey> how can you tell the difference?
14:18 <wrtlprnft> the zero has a dot in it
14:18 <spidey> O and 0 look the same on my screen
14:18 <mkzelda> overstock.com
14:18 <Lucifer_arma> by using your BRAIN
14:18 <wrtlprnft> get a better font
14:18 <spidey> i can't
14:18 <Lucifer_arma> the 0 is thin on mine, and the O is fat
14:18 <wrtlprnft> zero * (something) = zero
14:18 <spidey> all the others the L looks like a one...
14:19 <wrtlprnft> O * (something) = O * something
14:19 <wrtlprnft> fonts that use the same glyph for O and 0 should be banned.
14:19 <Lucifer_arma> I broke my ledger when I made it display smart dates.  "Today", "Yesterday", etc.  :/
14:19 <Lucifer_arma> banning is a known Best Practice for dealing with mistakes
14:20 <wrtlprnft> it's not my mistake
14:21 <Lucifer_arma> I didn't say whose mistake it was.  I just noticed that throughout history, banning mistakes from society has always worked, hasn't it?
14:21 <wrtlprnft> a good thing :P
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14:22 <Lucifer_arma> ah, ok, I didn't break my ledger, I just didn't understand how it worked :)
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> apparently when you subtract one datetime from another, 1 day really is 24 hours
14:23 <wrtlprnft> oh, really
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> imagine that
14:23 <wrtlprnft> wtf is a ledger anyways?
14:23 <Lucifer_arma> so it's showing transactions I put in yesterday as happening today because I put them in less than 24 hours ago
14:24 <Lucifer_arma> a ledger is a place where you write all your transactions :)
14:24 <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/dsbp/trunk/dsbp
14:24 <Lucifer_arma> requires PyQt4
14:24 <wrtlprnft> s/yesterday/within 24 hours
14:25 <Lucifer_arma> well, I want it to say "yesterday" when the calendar day is yesterday, not when the transaction is more than 24 hours ago
14:25 <wrtlprnft> well, i don't have a household, and the letters my bank sends me once in a while are enough for me
14:25 <wrtlprnft> forgot how they're called
14:25 <Lucifer_arma> bank statements?
14:26 <wrtlprnft> probably
14:26 <wrtlprnft> you know, those things that show you when you got what money from where and when you took how much money out of it
14:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm going to disagree completely, but I already know how stubborn you can be about obvious things you're wrong about, so I won't bother
14:27 <wrtlprnft> and when you paid how much with your card and when you transferred how much money to what other account
14:27 <wrtlprnft> o_O
14:27 <wrtlprnft> for the amounts of money i have it's fine, i guess
14:27 <wrtlprnft> note that you're talking to a student, not someone who has to make his own living
14:28 <Lucifer_arma> student = someone studying skills they expect to use and benefit them when they go to make their own life
14:28 <Lucifer_arma> and managing your own money is one of those skills which is frequently neglected to an alarming extent
14:28 <Lucifer_arma> here in America, you only get personal financial skills if you take Home Economics, which is a class designed to teach girls how to be traditional subservient women
14:28 <wrtlprnft> i don't have any managable amount of money
14:29 <wrtlprnft> i save everything i don't need for normal daily things like buying school stuff, and at some point if my account balance tells me i've got enough i go buy something i want
14:30 <DrJoeTron> I made a pillow in home ec
14:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, I obviously don't know anything about your cash flow.  :)  What I do know is that when your money is simple is the best time to learn how to manage it
14:31 <Lucifer_arma> because if you wait until it's more complicated, it gets really hard to work it out, and taking the easy way out (and trying to do it in your head) is too easy
14:31 <Lucifer_arma> but leads to disaster
14:31 <wrtlprnft> the only thing i know about some money course is that they got a big interest table thingy because they weren't expected to know about exponents
14:31 <Lucifer_arma> anecdotally, I think we waste 50% more money when we're not watching it than we do just by watching it
14:32 <Lucifer_arma> makes a big difference if you have to live on $800/month
14:32 <Lucifer_arma> (we don't now, but I used to live on $700/month when I was a bit younger)
14:33 <wrtlprnft> i guess it does
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> see, when I was living on $700/month, I shared a place with my brother.  He was making double that, but for some reason he was always broke and I always had extra cash
14:34 <Lucifer_arma> this was with bills and shit split right in half, btw
14:34 <wrtlprnft> hmm, well
14:35 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, managing your money is less about interest rates and banks and shit and more about just keeping track of what you spend and where it goes
14:35 <wrtlprnft> maybe he lived more expensively and could afford it
14:35 <Lucifer_arma> he didn't know how he was losing so much money every month.
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> See, I maintain he was blowing it all on consumables, like eating out and candy and shit like that.  He says otherwise, but he never had anything to show for it.
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> Also, I lied.  He was making ~$1000/month.  :)
14:36 <DrJoeTron> I need a job
14:36 <Lucifer_arma> I put away half my share of rent on the middle paycheck of the month, he didn't.  So on the first paycheck of the month, most of his was taken for rent, whereas I already had half of my rent stashed
14:37 <wrtlprnft> if i bought one mars a day for .6€, and a bottle of coke for .5€, i'd know that that would amount to some 35€
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14:37 <Lucifer_arma> I kept it in a CD case where I took out the black thing that holds the CD and stuck 2 $100 bills in there and put it back together
14:37 <Lucifer_arma> yes, you would.  But if you did it only sometimes when you're on the way to catch a bus, you'd never know for sure how many you bought
14:38 <wrtlprnft> so i would have to carry my laptop around everywhere i go and enter everything i bought?
14:38 <Lucifer_arma> so you'd have a fudge factor in your head, and then it usually gets applied to other things
14:38 <wrtlprnft> i could just keep the wrapping paper/bottle caps and count them at the end of the month ;)
14:38 <Lucifer_arma> no, you keep a receipt, and when you get home you spend a couple of minutes punching in your receipts
14:39 <wrtlprnft> umm, i don't get a receipt for every small thing i buy
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> then ask for them.  :)
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> here, anyway, they're required by law to provide a receipt
14:39 <wrtlprnft> here too
14:39 <Lucifer_arma> if asked.
14:40 <wrtlprnft> but i buy my drink at a store that only sells beverages, and that's why it's so cheap
14:40 <wrtlprnft> but they usually sell the stuff in bigger quantities
14:40 <Lucifer_arma> well, however you keep track of it, the point is to develop a habit where when you get home, you punch everything in
14:40 <wrtlprnft> if everyone asked for a receipt for his single .5€ bottle they'd just close during school break
14:40 <Lucifer_arma> with a checking account you usually get a little register.  You can also get very small notepads that work fine for it, just carry a pencil and a notepad
14:41 <Lucifer_arma> if you keep the cap, fine too.  :)  Just wait to throw it away until you get home and punch in the transaction.
14:41 <wrtlprnft> (and if they'd close i'd have to buy it at the “canteen”, where it's more than twice as expensive
14:42 <Lucifer_arma> the point is to keep track of it and to consistently punch in what you spend and where it went :)
14:42 <wrtlprnft> *if they closed
14:42 <wrtlprnft> bad grammar
14:42 <wrtlprnft> #last --with "svn co"
14:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [14:24:52] <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/dsbp/trunk/dsbp
14:43 <wrtlprnft> Fingerprint: 4f:92:c2:a1:82:6f:5b:f3:98:f3:fe:81:5f:57:06:ac:f5:ba:b0:88
14:43 <wrtlprnft> that correct?
14:43 <Lucifer_arma> ummm, sure.  never checked it myself....
14:43  * Lucifer_arma has lan access to the server
14:44 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, where should I look for the fingerprint?  :)
14:45 <wrtlprnft> already accepted it
14:45 <wrtlprnft> now what's the ebuild for pyqt?
14:46 <wrtlprnft> aaaarrrgh!
14:46 <wrtlprnft> it's PyQt4
14:46 <wrtlprnft> darn case
14:46 <wrtlprnft> ebuild names ought to be lowercase!
14:46 <mkzelda> i agree
14:47 <Lucifer_arma> umm, you'll also probably want to re-emerge pyqt3 after that
14:47 <wrtlprnft> the ebuild will hopefully tell me :)
14:47 <Lucifer_arma> at least, that's what I found.  You get a new version of SIP with PyQt4 and you need pyqt3 to be relinked to it
14:47 <Lucifer_arma> and the ebuild didn't tell me when I faced this problem myself :/
14:48 <Lucifer_arma> only matters if you have programs that depend on pyqt3 that you use, like armaspy advanced
14:48 <Lucifer_arma> ooo, you might also have to reemerge pykde if pykde uses sip
14:48 <wrtlprnft> probably revdep-rebuld will fix them all
14:49 <wrtlprnft> Error: This version of PyQt requires SIP v4.5.1 or later
14:49 <wrtlprnft> gah!
14:49 <wrtlprnft> this ebuild sucks.
14:49 <wrtlprnft> can't it just depend on the new version instead of telling me this way?
14:49 <wrtlprnft> installing sip. great.
14:50 <wrtlprnft> eta less than a minute at leasr
15:01 <Lucifer_arma> sip is small :)
15:12 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping
15:16 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: sip is pure python, so no compiling
15:16 <wrtlprnft> ImportError: No module named dsmainwindow
15:16 <wrtlprnft> o_O
15:16 <Lucifer_arma> ./build/buildui.py
15:17 <wrtlprnft> the README isn't exactly helpful.
15:17 <wrtlprnft> svn mv README DONTREADME
15:17 <wrtlprnft> what sort of qt skin is that? why isn't it my default one?
15:18 <Lucifer_arma> qt4 doesn't use qt3 skins
15:18 <Lucifer_arma> and yeah, the README isn't helpful :)
15:19 <Lucifer_arma> I haven't even made a 0.1.0 release yet!
15:21 <wrtlprnft> this skin sucks, though
15:21 <Lucifer_arma> I'm considering doing the pysqlite port before making a release at all, that way I don't have to support this old database format
15:21 <Lucifer_arma> well, you can configure it somewhat.  I haven't found any qt4 skins yet that I can download :/
15:22 <Lucifer_arma> do /usr/lib/qt4/bin/configure I think
15:22 <wrtlprnft> i'm gonna use the windows skin then
15:22 <wrtlprnft> it's the only reasonable one
15:22 <Lucifer_arma> I manually configured my qt4 installation to look similar to my qt3 config
15:23 <wrtlprnft> can you get rid of posts?
15:23 <wrtlprnft> umm, and define your own categories?
15:24 <Lucifer_arma> yes and no
15:24 <Lucifer_arma> both are on my todo list beefore making a release :)
15:24 <wrtlprnft> wtf
15:24 <Lucifer_arma> but right now, you have to do it by hand in the filesystem
15:25 <wrtlprnft> ah, that thing at the top is for filtering
15:25 <wrtlprnft> gas, electricity, cigaretts are totally useless to me, like most others
15:25 <Lucifer_arma> technically they're not categories though, they're accounts.  It's double-entry accounting, but I'm trying to eliminate some of the stuff in other free software that makes these programs ahrd to use
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> yeah, when it ships you're going to be able to pick from a choice of templates to generate your database, what's there is mine.  :)
15:26 <Lucifer_arma> anyway, to change the accounts, you have to go into the /accounts directory and cd to the one you want to change.  Then use mv, rm, cp, etc to modify it
15:27 <Lucifer_arma> vi properties to change the visible name, that's the only account property it has right now
15:27 <wrtlprnft> and now i entered something for $2 (btw, i don't use $), but it doesn'T show up in the balance
15:28 <Lucifer_arma> did you put both a debit and a credit account?
15:29 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/dsbp.png
15:35 <Lucifer_arma> you're looking at the general ledger.  The balance of the general ledger, by definition, is always 0, so no reason to show it
15:35 <Lucifer_arma> also, you've debited and credited the same account.  So the balance on that account will be 0.  :)
15:35 <Lucifer_arma> generally, when you spend money, you debit an asset and credit an expense.  When you earn money, you debit an Income, and credit an asset
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15:36 <Lucifer_arma> debit and credit change meanings depending on which accounts you're talking about.  :/
15:39 <wrtlprnft> but none of those assets seem to fit
15:39 <Lucifer_arma> ?  did you spend cash?
15:39 <Lucifer_arma> there is a cash account in there, isn't there?  If not, I need one, too.
15:39 <wrtlprnft> say i spent cash to buy a christmas present for someone
15:39 <wrtlprnft> there's a cash type
15:39 <Lucifer_arma> oh wow, there isn't a cash account
15:40 <Lucifer_arma> there's supposed to be, sorry
15:44 <Lucifer_arma> so, I added one to my own database by going to /dsbpdatabase/accounts/assets and doing cp -R paypal cash
15:44 <Lucifer_arma> then vi cash/properties to adjust the name shown
15:47 <wrtlprnft> hmm, ok
15:47 <wrtlprnft> i'd better close dsbp in the meantime
15:50 <wrtlprnft> i wish this was more usuable by keyboard
15:51 <Lucifer_arma> me too :/
15:51 <wrtlprnft> and more usuable at normal resolution
15:51 <Lucifer_arma> getting there, but I needed to have a working ledger quickly
15:52 <wrtlprnft> H…ent, C…mas etc is hard to decipher
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16:05 <Lucifer_arma> heh, yeah
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> I need to find out if I can make the drop-down list wider than the column
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> but that's what qt4 does.  :/
16:06 <wrtlprnft> :s
16:06 <wrtlprnft> sort of a bad idea for a design
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> What, doing H...ent?
16:06 <Lucifer_arma> that might be configurable.
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> as in, there may be a flag I could pass to the QCombobox to make it show the words differently when there's not enough room
16:07 <Lucifer_arma> I'd really prefer if it just displayed the drop box at twice the width of the column or something like that
16:07 <wrtlprnft> i like the way they're displayed, the box is just too small
16:08 <wrtlprnft> it should line up with one of the edges of the col and then take as much space as it needs in the other direction
16:09 <Lucifer_arma> yep.  Because when you open up the list, that's where your attention is, and there isn't anything else to be looking at that'll help
16:10 <Lucifer_arma> I already looked for a flag to widen the box, I suspect I'll need to subclass qcombobox and/or provide my own listview class for it
16:10 <wrtlprnft> X_x#
16:20 <DrJoeTron> god this game is lineage 2 with boats
16:31 <Comsn> #armaservers
16:31 <armabot> Comsn: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (6 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || Wild West =Labyrinth CTF= (Experimental) (5 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (4 players) || 2020 team challenge (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || thekowsklan shooting (2 players) || Nixda's (1 more message)
16:32 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: what game are you talking about?
16:32 <Lucifer_arma> care to share?
16:32 <Lucifer_arma> like to trike?
16:32 <Lucifer_arma> glisten to listen?
16:33 <DrJoeTron> voyage centruy online
16:33 <DrJoeTron> its a korean game
16:33 <DrJoeTron> complete with its own engrish :D
16:34 <Lucifer_arma> do all your base belong to them?
16:35 <DrJoeTron> it made me take off every zig
16:35 <DrJoeTron> http://www.voyagecenturyonline.com/index.php
16:35 <DrJoeTron> brb
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17:07 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/kows-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
17:17 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/kow-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
17:38 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/HIM_epsy-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
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18:28 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/shoot-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
18:44 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if I can get a publisher to buy a book with strategy and tactics for open source games
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18:47 <wrtlprnft> i'd buy it if it was on amazon or something comparable :)
18:48 <ghableska> hi
18:48 <DrJoeTron> ooooo
18:48 <ghableska> o_O
18:48 <DrJoeTron> 10 pack of cd-rs for free at office depot
18:48 <luke-jr> where's a good place to buy a digicam?
18:48 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: CD-Rs are obsolete
18:48 <ghableska> tigerdirect?
18:49 <DrJoeTron> yeah clearly
18:49 <DrJoeTron> because luke-jr says so
18:49 <luke-jr> ghableska: TigerDirect is infamous for being a bad place to buy *anything*
18:49 <ghableska> really?
18:49 <DrJoeTron> wow!
18:49 <wrtlprnft> well, i haven't burned a CD in a while
18:49 <ghableska> I haven't had any problems with them .:P
18:49 <ghableska> but then again, you think Trillian is evil...
18:49 <luke-jr> ghableska: neither have I
18:49 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr for the first time I completely agree with you! :V
18:49 <ghableska> amazon then?
18:50 <wrtlprnft> i've got more harddrive space on half a dozen of independend servers all around the world than i'll ever need
18:50 <luke-jr> isn't amazon for books?
18:50 <ghableska> no.
18:50  * DrJoeTron puts up his hand to wait for a high five from luke-jr 
18:50 <ghableska> you can buy your own personal tank off of there too
18:50 <wrtlprnft> 18:44 <Lucifer_arma> I wonder if I can get a publisher to buy a book with strategy and tactics for open source games
18:50  * luke-jr peers at DrJoeTron
18:50 <DrJoeTron> :D 
18:50 <DrJoeTron> tiger direct sucks so hard
18:50 <ghableska> luke-jr: http://www.amazon.com/JL421-Badonkadonk-Land-Cruiser-Tank/dp/B00067F1CE not just books
18:50 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: we're talking about digicams and tigerdirect now
18:51 <wrtlprnft> well, amazon does sell all kinds of things
18:51 <wrtlprnft> for a long time, actually
18:51 <ghableska> what about ebay? :P
18:51 <wrtlprnft> mixers, skis, you name it
18:51 <DrJoeTron> ghableska what are you trying to get now?
18:51 <ghableska> what?
18:52 <ghableska> I'm not getting anything...
18:52 <DrJoeTron> you should be :/
18:52 <luke-jr> I'm trying to find a decent digicam with hacking potential
18:52 <ghableska> why?
18:52 <ghableska> @dr
18:53 <wrtlprnft> run openwrt on your digicam?
18:53 <wrtlprnft> that would be cool, sort of
18:53 <wrtlprnft> playing arma on a camera
18:53 <ghableska> although, now that you mention it, I do want a macbook pro :P
18:53 <DrJoeTron> I'm gonna figure out how to use my wiimote on the pc
18:54  * DrJoeTron wonders if his keyboard and mouse is bluetooth
18:54 <ghableska> is it bluetooth?
18:56  * ghableska notices how he killed the conversation
18:56 <wrtlprnft> it was a boring conversation anyhow.
18:57 <DrJoeTron> I'm actually looking for stuff
18:58 <ghableska> http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/parasite-makes-men-dumb-women-sexy/2006/12/26/1166895290973.html
18:58 <ghableska> heh
19:00 <DrJoeTron> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833338016 I'd need this 
19:01 <ghableska> look at the user reviews
19:01 <DrJoeTron> something LIKE that
19:01 <DrJoeTron> http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2211960
19:02 <DrJoeTron> maybe even tried wiiLi
19:02 <DrJoeTron> try*
19:02 <DrJoeTron> wii linux :d
19:10 <ghableska> #weather 50265
19:10 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: the publisher I'm pitching has books on amazon, afaik
19:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (12:08 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa. 
19:17 <ghableska> wow
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19:24 -!- Arma84 is now known as Durka
19:24 <Durka> #hello
19:25 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #15 || A: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police. || Q: What was the greatest achievement in taxidermy?
19:26 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: the best of luck then :) I hope i'll be able to get a copy
19:26 <wrtlprnft> hi Durka, bye Durka (g2g)
19:27 <Durka> umm...bye?
19:27 <ghableska> #armaservers
19:27 <armabot> ghableska: Norm's Place (11 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (8 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (7 players) || Strawberry Fields (7 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (4 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (4 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (4 players) || ^}LC}< HIGH RUBBER CLAN SERVER (1 more message)
19:28  * Durka is gonna act like ghab right now
19:28 <Durka> #weather 50925
19:28 <Durka> or something like that
19:28 <armabot> Durka: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "50925".
19:28 <Durka> :(
19:28 <ghableska> heh
19:31 <Durka> what is it
19:31 <Durka> #weather 50525
19:31 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Clarion, Iowa is 42.8°F (12:15 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 37.4°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa. 
19:31 <Durka> close?
19:31 <ghableska> getting closer ;)
19:31 <Durka> :P
19:31 <Durka> :p
19:31 <Durka> i give up :)
19:33 <Durka> TELL ME!
19:33 <ghableska> 50265
19:34 <Durka> :)
19:34 <Durka> i was close
19:34 <Durka> #weather 50265
19:34 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (12:19 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa. 
19:34 <ghableska> #weather 50266
19:34 <Durka> :)))))))))))))))
19:34 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 47.7°F (12:32 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.13 in 986.3 hPa. 
19:34 <ghableska> hmm
19:34  * ghableska lives in West DM.
19:35 <ghableska> #cnn 50265
19:35 <ghableska> #cnn 50266
19:35 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 48.0°F. Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Wind: E at 6 mph (10 km/h).
19:35 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 48.0°F. Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 89%. Wind: E at 6 mph (10 km/h).
19:35 <ghableska> O_o
19:35 <Durka> lol
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19:42 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: thanks.  :)  I hope they give me an advance so I can spend the next 6 months writing and playing.  :)
19:55  * Durka Lucifer_arma
20:03 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/rubber/shot-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
20:04 <DrJoeTron> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b_iuIrSGxU a loving tribute to saddam :D
20:05 <spidey> DrJoeTron, drgcon?
20:06 <spidey> er
20:06 <spidey> DrJoeTron, defcon?
20:06 <spidey> #ping
20:06 <armabot> pong
20:06 <DrJoeTron> going to the gym :d
20:06 <spidey> gay
20:06 <DrJoeTron> I bet, fatty
20:06 <spidey> ...
20:06 <DrJoeTron> :D
20:07 <Durka> spidey!!!!! :p
20:07 <spidey> omg
20:07 -!- spidey is now known as notspidey
20:07  * Durka looks for spidey
20:07 <DrJoeTron> bbl
20:07  * Durka cant find him
20:07 -!- Durka is now known as LookingForSpidey
20:13  * LookingForSpidey =_=
20:27 <armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r6623 /armagetronad/branches/Io/armagetronad/MacOS/Armagetron Advanced.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Updating MacOS project
20:43 <LookingForSpidey> anyone here (spefically spidey :p)
20:46 <notspidey> i fucking hate ctf servers...
20:46 <ghableska> why?
20:46 <notspidey> "res" "respandew" (yes...respandew) 
20:46 <notspidey> over
20:46 <notspidey> and over
20:46 <notspidey> and over
20:46 <notspidey> i made a instant chat "the more you say respawn...the longer you wait!"
20:47 <LookingForSpidey> i dont respawn ppl that say that
20:47 <ghableska> they don't yell "re!"
20:47 <ghableska> ?
20:47 <notspidey> no
20:47 <notspidey> just res
20:47 <notspidey> or respandew
20:47 <ghableska> OMG PLZ RE ME
20:47 <notspidey> wtf is a respandew?
20:47 <LookingForSpidey> #weather 50265
20:47 <armabot> LookingForSpidey: The current temperature in Des Moines, Iowa is 48.2°F (1:01 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.14 in 1020 hPa. 
20:47 <ghableska> it's 50266 now :P
20:50 <LookingForSpidey> really?
20:50 -!- LookingForSpidey is now known as Durka
20:50 <Durka> #armaservers
20:50 <armabot> Durka: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Strawberry Fields (10 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (6 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (6 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (5 players) || thekowsklan shooting (4 players) || Palatinum's Place (4 players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (3 players) || Tigers (1 more message)
20:50 <ghableska> #lastseen ghableska
20:50 <armabot> ghableska: ghableska has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 9 minutes ago.
20:51 <Durka> #lastseen 4dot
20:51 <armabot> Durka: °¯°¯ 4dot °¯°¯ has last been seen on Fortress Café 15 minutes ago.
20:51 <Durka> ;)
20:51 <Durka> #lastseen g6
20:51 <armabot> Durka: G6 has last been seen on Fortress Café 1 minutes ago.
20:51 <Durka> :p
20:56 <ghableska> http://www.istanbul.tc/mahir/mahir/ <-- real-life Borat.
20:57 <Lucifer_arma> alright, sent off my proposal.  Now we'll see if they buy it.  :)
21:04 <wrtlprnft> good luck Lucifer_arma 
21:04 <wrtlprnft> back btw
21:04 <ghableska> hi
21:05 <wrtlprnft> #google translate german english feuerzangenbowle
21:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.07 seconds: German Drink Recipes: Feuerzangenbowle - Flaming Fire Tongs Punch 2: <http://german.about.com/library/blrezept_feuerzang2.htm>; Feuerzangenbowle - Recipe for Flaming Fire Tongs Punch - German ...: <http://german.about.com/library/blfeuerzangenb.htm>; Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Conventions - Wikipedia, the free ...: (2 more messages)
21:05 <wrtlprnft> errm
21:05 <ghableska> O_o
21:05 <ghableska> flaming fire tongs punch?
21:05  * ghableska goes and looks up the recipe
21:05 <Lucifer_arma> an out of office autoresponder wasn't exactly what I was shooting for...
21:06 <wrtlprnft> it's where you have a pot of wine with some sort-of spices in them, then put a big piece of shugar over it and burn it with alcohol
21:06 <ghableska> ah
21:07 <wrtlprnft> *sugar, no h
21:07 <wrtlprnft> they have the biggest one of the world here in munich right now, and i was there :)
21:07 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: you have some kind of financial program thing, right?
21:08 <wrtlprnft> #last --with "svn co ht" --from Lucifer_arma 
21:08 <luke-jr> #ping
21:08 <luke-jr> ...
21:08 <armabot> wrtlprnft: [14:24:52] <Lucifer_arma> svn co https://svn.davefancella.com/dsbp/trunk/dsbp
21:08 <armabot> pong
21:08 <wrtlprnft> it's busy again
21:08 <wrtlprnft> just be patient with her
21:08 <wrtlprnft> she's an old lady
21:09  * luke-jr stabs armabot
21:09 <luke-jr> bah, it's Python ;p
21:10 <wrtlprnft> how rude of luke-jr
21:10 <Comsn> #armaservers
21:10 <armabot> Comsn: Strawberry Fields (16 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (13 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (8 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (8 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (5 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (4 players) || Palatinum's Place (4 players) || thekowsklan shooting (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (1 more message)
21:10 <Comsn> damn styball full :\
21:11 <wrtlprnft> :)
21:11 <wrtlprnft> just keep trying
21:12 <wrtlprnft> use the --connect command line option and a while true loop in bash
21:12  * luke-jr emerged PyQt4
21:12 <wrtlprnft> and just keep quitting tron as it tells you the server's full
21:12 <Comsn> #serverinfo cafe
21:12 <armabot> Comsn: Fortress Café: Players (6/32): DraXula, Ðûqkå, Luzifer, meteor [--=*], newbtacular, Yoda
21:12 <Comsn> i'll jjust play some fort then :)
21:12 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:12 <wrtlprnft> cafe works?
21:13 <wrtlprnft> wow, my script does more than i think it does
21:13 <Comsn> hehe
21:13 <wrtlprnft> *thought
21:13  * ghableska loves Terragen 2
21:19 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=mug
21:21 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo cage
21:21 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
21:21 <DrJoeTron> :( 
21:30 <wrtlprnft> it's just that i have enough mugs and know the vim commands by heart anyways
21:30 <wrtlprnft> at least the ones i can use
21:32 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: what happened to the tub?
21:32 <wrtlprnft> #serverdetails tub
21:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tub” at the moment, sorry.
21:35 <luke-jr> hey Lucifer_arma
21:35 <luke-jr> how do you run this thing
21:35  * luke-jr ponders rewriting it in Qt
21:36 <wrtlprnft> err, this is qt?
21:36 <luke-jr> no, it's Python
21:36 <wrtlprnft> but qt
21:36 <luke-jr> using Qt classes for GUI
21:36 <wrtlprnft> first you go to database→new db
21:37 <wrtlprnft> qt is no programming language?
21:37 <luke-jr> yes it is
21:37 <wrtlprnft> then select some dir in libdsbp
21:37 <wrtlprnft> and ok
21:37 <luke-jr> where is database?
21:37 <wrtlprnft> errm
21:37 <wrtlprnft> at the top?
21:37 <luke-jr> of?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> the main window
21:38 <luke-jr> how do I get that?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> umm, err
21:38 <wrtlprnft> run the program?
21:38 <luke-jr> how?
21:38 <wrtlprnft> ./dsbp
21:38 <luke-jr> Traceback (most recent call last):
21:38 <luke-jr>   File "./dsbp", line 67, in ?
21:38 <luke-jr>     from libdsbpgui import mainqt
21:38 <luke-jr>   File "/home/luke-jr/src/dsbp/libdsbpgui/mainqt.py", line 31, in ?
21:38 <luke-jr>     from designer.dsmainwindow import Ui_MainWindow
21:38 <luke-jr> ImportError: No module named dsmainwindow
21:38 <wrtlprnft> gah, sec
21:38 <wrtlprnft> 15:16 <wrtlprnft> ImportError: No module named dsmainwindow
21:38 <wrtlprnft> 15:16 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:38 <wrtlprnft> 15:16 <Lucifer_arma> ./build/buildui.py
21:39 <wrtlprnft> then try again
21:40 <wrtlprnft> alternatively try to read the README
21:40 <Lucifer_arma> I hve good news!  I'm not going to jail.
21:40 <luke-jr> luke-jr@tsurukikun dsbp $ cat README
21:40 <luke-jr> spurious edit
21:40 <wrtlprnft> heh, i know
21:40 <wrtlprnft> anyways, it should work after that command
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21:41 <luke-jr> yeah
21:41 <wrtlprnft> unless Lucifer_arma broke something
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> nope, haven't touched it since last night
21:41 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer_arma: good to know. now get back to the sound engine, will you? ;)
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21:41 <Lucifer_arma> it does have to be pyqt4 though
21:41 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I'll get to the sound engine when I a) am a bit more financially secure and b) have time
21:42  * Lucifer_arma is between jobs right now
21:42 <wrtlprnft> 21:12  * luke-jr emerged PyQt4
21:42 <wrtlprnft> i hope that'll be soon x_X
21:42 <wrtlprnft> write your book then
21:42  * guru3 cracks up in laughter and cries after having seen excel saga ep 26
21:42  * Durka watch tank die of laughter
21:42 <luke-jr> is that the hentai one? :o
21:42 <Durka> watches*
21:43 <guru3> luke-jr: it's the 'going too far' one
21:43 <luke-jr> eh
21:43  * luke-jr doesn't remember Excel Saga much
21:43 <guru3> that ep had more visual gags than i could keep up with ><
21:43 <wrtlprnft> excel? the thing with the paperclip?
21:43 <luke-jr> ...
21:44 <luke-jr> I remember the scene where the start was in English
21:44 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft the guy who is supposed to host it hasnt put it up yet
21:44 <luke-jr> "then why should we fly?" "it's all for the production of a low budget movie"
21:44 <guru3> don't remember that ><
21:44 <luke-jr> IIRC like ep 3 or such
21:44 <wrtlprnft> bbl, supper
21:44 <luke-jr> when Excel was trapped in a cave w/ whats-her-name
21:45 <luke-jr> and played some word game
21:45 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: keep me updated :)
21:45 <guru3> could be luke
21:46 <guru3> anyway
21:46 <guru3> while excel saga isn't an all in one sitting anime
21:46 <guru3> it did have some hillarious parts
21:46 <DrJoeTron> meh
21:46 <DrJoeTron> wrtlprnft 10-4 :D
21:47 <luke-jr> btw
21:47 <DrJoeTron> I liked outlaw star :d
21:47 <luke-jr> what kind of dumb name for a secret organization bent on taking over the world
21:47 <luke-jr> "Across"
21:47 <luke-jr> wtf
21:47 <luke-jr> A-KU-RO-SU
21:48 <guru3> yeah
21:48 <guru3> that's the point of the series tho
21:48 <luke-jr> lame names?
21:48 <guru3> just general stupidity and hillariousness
21:48 <guru3> or something
21:48 <guru3> i had a good time watching it
21:48 <luke-jr> was it ep 1 where the author was killed? :)
21:48 <guru3> yeah
21:48 <guru3> the director popping up in it was great\
21:50 <luke-jr> Nabeshin?
21:50 <DrJoeTron> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009B0KOQ/dealmeinnet-20/ holy fuck!
21:50 <DrJoeTron> I want this
21:50 <guru3> luke-jr: that's the guy
21:50 <guru3> the whole afro gag ><
21:50 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: why?
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> wrtlprnft: if I thought it had more than a snowball's chance in hell, I'd work on it before finding out if they'll buy it :)
21:51 <guru3> DrJoeTron: i couldn't stoop that low
21:51 <DrJoeTron> whats so bad about these?
21:51 <luke-jr> IIRC, that's the same CPU my desktop uses
21:51 <guru3> it's not that its inherently bad, ive just got so much better hardware ><
21:51 <Lucifer_arma> oh good, I broke it somehow
21:51 <DrJoeTron> I'm on an athlon xp 2600+
21:51 <luke-jr> I got it like 2004
21:51 <luke-jr> 2600+ is what? 2002?
21:52 <DrJoeTron> for stuff I do I don't need anything super big
21:52  * luke-jr doesn't expect to do any major upgrades for at least another year
21:52 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: cs:s?
21:53 <Comsn> #serverinfo team sumo
21:53 <armabot> Comsn: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (1/12): ~*$P*~<y<lo
21:53 <DrJoeTron> but I mean its only 2 years old
21:53 <DrJoeTron> and its still far better than what I hae
21:53 <DrJoeTron> have*
21:54 <DrJoeTron> its still a good deal
21:54 <DrJoeTron> I mean what are they on now?
21:54 <guru3> FX-62
21:54 -!- SD_away [n=drjames@h18.171.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #armagetron
21:54 <guru3> 5000+
21:55 <guru3> something like that
21:55 -!- SD_away is now known as Self_Destructo
21:55 <DrJoeTron> how much though?
21:55 <Self_Destructo> hey guru
21:55 <Self_Destructo> and joe
21:55 <Self_Destructo> ltns
21:55 <DrJoeTron> yo yo
21:55 <luke-jr> hey Self_Destructo
21:55 <DrJoeTron> but I mean, I buy everything mid grade
21:55 <Self_Destructo> hey lukerz
21:55 <guru3> not too much for me to have a FX60, 2 4800+, 1 4200+ & 1 3800+
21:55 <guru3> :>
21:55 <luke-jr> guru3: where do you get that sort of funding?
21:56 <DrJoeTron> yeah really
21:56 <guru3> not a clue ><
21:56 <DrJoeTron> parents :D
21:56 <guru3> well yeah my dad
21:56 <DrJoeTron> there ya go
21:56 <guru3> but no clue how he saves that sort of money
21:56 <Lucifer_arma> er, it's broke bad
21:57 <DrJoeTron> I'm still on my radeon 9600+
21:57 <luke-jr> I just upgraded to a Radeon X850 :)
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> >>> 71.26+19.85+65.53
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> 156.64000000000001
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> >>> 71.26+19.85+65.53 == 156.64
21:57 <Lucifer_arma> False
21:57 <DrJoeTron> all I need it to play is HL2 and BF2
21:57 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: so?
21:57 <luke-jr> 156.64000000000001 > 156.64
21:57 <guru3> you're growing money lucifer :D
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> I am?
21:58 <Lucifer_arma> and here I thought I was looking at a shitty floating point implementation
21:58 <guru3> that too
21:58 <guru3> but you've got to turn every con into a pro
22:00 <Self_Destructo> HL2 is an awesome game
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> there's a hack.  Format them to a string and force it to clamp it, but that's no cure
22:00 <DrJoeTron> Self_Destructo, I downloaded goldeneye source
22:00 <Lucifer_arma> I need a Money class that uses ints internally and behaves like a float otherwise.  Grrr....
22:01 <DrJoeTron> its pretty much HL2 DM:with goldeneye skins now
22:01 <Lucifer_arma> it's not that bad, actually.  Just store the atomic unit of currency, maybe I'll need to support multiple currencies sooner than intended
22:01 <Durka> #ping
22:01 <armabot> pong
22:01 <Durka> :)
22:05 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: your program looks an awful lot like Eqonomize
22:09 <Self_Destructo> how do I break up a file by each line in php?
22:10 <Self_Destructo> I'm going to take my server log files and insert each line into a mysql db
22:10 -!- [dlh] [n=[dlh]@70.88.244.226] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
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22:10 <Self_Destructo> I'm just not sure how explode looks at newlines
22:10 <Self_Destructo> or if it even does
22:11 <luke-jr> why not use the line reading stuff?
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> either read it line by line or do the first explode for the line feed character
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> there should be a function that'll let you iterate through it line by line, though
22:12 <Lucifer_arma> but I forget what it is, I usually get shit from a database
22:12 <Self_Destructo> ook
22:22 <Durka> #pong
22:22 <armabot> ping
22:22 <Durka> #ping
22:22 <armabot> pong
22:22 <Durka> #pong
22:22 <armabot> ping
22:22 <Durka> #ping
22:22 <armabot> pong
22:22 <Durka> #pong
22:22 <armabot> ping
22:22 <Durka> #ping
22:22 <armabot> pong
22:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
22:22 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by luke-jr [User terminated!]
22:22 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
22:22 -!- Arma48 [n=Arma48@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:22 -!- Arma48 is now known as Durka
22:22 <Durka> :p
22:23 <Durka> sry
22:24 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
22:25 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [Just so luke doesn't get ahead of me in kick counts]
22:25 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
22:25 <luke-jr> lol
22:25 <wrtlprnft> DrJoeTron: 10-4 what?
22:26 <wrtlprnft> now they're fighting for kick counts…
22:26 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma is, anyhow
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> can you really say with total confidence that kicking Durka is a bad thing?
22:26 <wrtlprnft> cmon, he said sorry, and it was his first kick IIRC
22:26 <wrtlprnft> durka isn't totally bad
22:26 <Self_Destructo> what was he kicked for?
22:26 <Lucifer_arma> well, neither is spidey
22:27 <wrtlprnft> the first time for spamming
22:27 <wrtlprnft> the second time because Lucifer_arma is a dick
22:27 <Self_Destructo> wow
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> :)
22:27 <luke-jr> lol
22:27 <Self_Destructo> i was like... spam... that's all?
22:27 <wrtlprnft> yeah :(
22:27 <luke-jr> erm
22:27 <Self_Destructo> man I remeber this place was constaly spammed
22:27 <Lucifer_arma> well, in luke's defense, durka spams a *lot*
22:27 <wrtlprnft> they're sort of looking for ways to exercise their power
22:27 <Self_Destructo> ah
22:27 <luke-jr> last I checked, spamming in most channels gets a kick
22:27  * wrtlprnft remembers luke-jr spamming himself
22:28 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: go spam #gentoo and let me know when they don't kick you
22:28 <Self_Destructo> lol
22:28 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: #gentoo is a big channel
22:28 <wrtlprnft> this one is small, and i'm happy if someone is active in it
22:28 <luke-jr> ...
22:28 <wrtlprnft> if it's not a total idiot
22:29 <luke-jr> if it was #weather, or #listservers or something useful, I can see that being acceptable
22:29 <luke-jr> but just #ping and #pong... that often
22:29 <wrtlprnft> #alias remove pong
22:29 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
22:30  * wrtlprnft doesn't see how #weather is useful
22:30 <luke-jr> #weather 64150
22:30 <wrtlprnft> it's only useful for the guy who uses the command
22:30 <armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in Kansas City, Missouri is 55.4°F (3:24 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa. 
22:30 <luke-jr> so?
22:30 <wrtlprnft> and that can easily be done in private chat
22:30 <wrtlprnft> /msg armabot weather 12345
22:30 <Lucifer_arma> well, we have lots of little pissing contests over who's got the worst/best weather
22:31 <wrtlprnft> if you're actually talking about weather, ok
22:31 <wrtlprnft> but if you enter the channel, say #weather 12345, then leave again it doesn't do anyone any good
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> and if it weren't for weather, ghableska (hi there!)  would never talk at all!
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, GodTodd (hi there!) ping
22:32 <Lucifer_arma> then kick the guy who left...
22:32  * luke-jr hasn't seen that
22:33 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop $ cat ~/irclogs/FreeNode/\#armagetron.log | grep '<ghableska> hi' | wc -l               ~/dsbp
22:33 <wrtlprnft> 242
22:33 <wrtlprnft> you can hardly say he wouldn't takk at all
22:33 <wrtlprnft> mathias@laptop $ cat ~/irclogs/FreeNode/\#armagetron.log | grep '<ghableska> #weather' | wc -l         ~/dsbp
22:33 <wrtlprnft> 210
22:34 <wrtlprnft> he even said hi more often than he used the weather command
22:34 <luke-jr> why is ~/dsbp at the end of that?
22:34 <wrtlprnft> because i was in that dir?
22:34 <wrtlprnft> experimating with Lucifer_arma's thingy
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #g (210+242) / 5802
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (210 + 242) / 5,802 = 0.077904171
22:35 <wrtlprnft> wow, .078 of ghableska's lines were weather or hi
22:35 <wrtlprnft> that's almost a tenth x_X
22:35  * luke-jr notes Lucifer_arma didn't claim ghableska used #weather only
22:36 <wrtlprnft> he said that ghableska would never talk if it weren't for weather
22:36 <luke-jr> so?
22:36 <wrtlprnft> which isn't true :P
22:36 <luke-jr> maybe it is
22:36 <luke-jr> maybe #weather spawns discussions ghableska takes part in
22:36 <wrtlprnft> not really
22:36 <wrtlprnft> he sometimes joins in discussions that didn't feature the #weather command
22:37 <wrtlprnft> 20:56 <ghableska> http://www.istanbul.tc/mahir/mahir/ <-- real-life Borat.
22:37 <wrtlprnft> bbl
22:42 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6624 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/language/ (french.txt spanish.txt): fixed main menu.
22:44 <notspidey> grep Vanhayes's
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> #kick notspidey
22:45 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> heh
22:45 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, now I really need a working printer on this machine
22:45  * Lucifer_arma goes to search for his printer driver disk.  that's right, his printer came with a CD that included linux drivers.
22:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
22:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by luke-jr
22:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
22:46 <guru3> neato lucifer
22:46 <luke-jr> #roulette
22:46 <@armabot> luke-jr: *click*
22:46 <luke-jr> phew
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> it irritates me when I look for my printer driver disk and find my MSVC6 disk instead
22:47 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
22:47 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
22:48 <Lucifer_arma> haha, the driver disk was in the cd-rom
22:48 <luke-jr> lol
22:51 <ghableska> Lucifer_arma: you have a point
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> why isn't it being read completely?  grrr....
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> wait, didn't I download the driver at some point?
22:51 <Lucifer_arma> ghableska: about you never talking without #weather?
22:52 <ghableska> yeah
22:55 <notspidey> #weather 38256
22:55 <@armabot> notspidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 56.5°F (3:55 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 55.4°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa. 
22:56 <Lucifer_arma> #cnn 78717
22:56 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: The current temperature in Round Rock, TX is 55.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 50%. Wind: SW at 3 mph (5 km/h).
22:56 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:56 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 48.7°F (3:52 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 44.6°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.11 in 985.7 hPa. 
22:57 <ghableska> #roulette
22:57 -!- ghableska was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
22:57  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:57 -!- ghableska [n=ghablesk@12.240.54.90] has joined #Armagetron
22:58 <luke-jr> :p
22:58 <ghableska> -_-
22:58 <luke-jr> hum
22:58 <luke-jr> KBudget falls shor
22:58 <luke-jr> t
22:58 <Lucifer_arma> #roulette
22:58 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: *click*
22:58 <ghableska> #roulette
22:58 <@armabot> ghableska: *click*
22:59 -!- Arma76 [n=Arma76@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:59 -!- Arma76 is now known as Durka
22:59 <Durka> lol luci
22:59 <luke-jr> ...
23:00 <Durka> he kicked me so he could get ahead of u in kick counts
23:00 <luke-jr> no rly?
23:01 <Vanhayes> #roulette
23:01 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
23:01 <Durka> #ping
23:01 <@armabot> pong
23:02 <luke-jr> Durka: #roulett
23:02 <luke-jr> Durka: #roulette
23:02 <Durka> Lucifer_arma: #roulette
23:03 <Vanhayes> #roulette
23:03 <@armabot> Vanhayes: *click*
23:03 <Vanhayes> dont be pussies
23:04 <Durka> #roulette
23:04 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
23:04  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:04 <Vanhayes> ha
23:04 -!- Arma27 [n=Arma27@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
23:04 -!- Arma27 is now known as Durka
23:04 <Durka> [14:04] You've been kicked out of #armagetron by armabot (BANG!) 
23:04 <Durka> ???
23:07 <luke-jr> lol
23:11  * ghableska attempts to start a conversation not related to #weather
23:15  * Lucifer_arma helps ghableska
23:20 <ghableska> heh
23:20 <ghableska> well, it's a start
23:21  * Lucifer_arma is trying to setup a printer, again
23:21 -!- Arma21 [n=Arma21@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
23:22 <Arma21> #hello
23:22 <@armabot> Hello Arma21 :) Random Fortune: Maybe I should just cut my losses, give up on Lisa, and make a fresh || start with Maggie. || -- Homer Simpson || Lisa's Pony
23:22 <Arma21> hmmm I'm already logged in
23:22 <Arma21> can someone kick Durka
23:22 <Arma21> actually lemme try this
23:22 -!- Arma21 [n=Arma21@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
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23:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
23:23 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer_arma [User terminated!]
23:23 <Arma07> thnx
23:23 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
23:23 -!- Arma07 [n=Arma07@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
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23:23 -!- Arma53 is now known as Durka_
23:24 <Durka_> thnx
23:25 <luke-jr> Freeciv anyone?
23:26 <notspidey> i would but i can't
23:26 <notspidey> well
23:26 <notspidey> maybe i can
23:26 <luke-jr> lame
23:26 <notspidey> i'm hosting a 8 slot soldat server
23:26 <notspidey> it's been full since last night
23:26 <notspidey> they love my mods :D
23:27 <notspidey> i made a chainsaw into a teleporter....
23:27 <notspidey> but with 8 people in it i still get 60pings on halo and i don't lag...so i don't see why i would in freeciv
23:32 <luke-jr> ...
23:32 <luke-jr> as if lag is a big problem in freeciv anyhow
23:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer_arma: 
23:33 <luke-jr> GodTodd: Self_Destructo Vanhayes mkzelda
23:33 <notspidey> sure it is
23:33 <DrJoeTron> I'm trying to figure out the  benefits of being an eagle scout
23:33 <DrJoeTron> if there is any
23:33 <notspidey> why the hell would i want to go from a 20 second delay to a 2 minute delay
23:33 <notspidey> screw that :p
23:34 <DrJoeTron> alls Ive collected was old people love you
23:36 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: civ :p
23:36 <DrJoeTron> buh?
23:36 <luke-jr> Freeciv
23:36 <luke-jr> notspidey: hachi.dashjr.org 555
23:36 <luke-jr> 5
23:37 <luke-jr> don't forget 1tpd on 5550 too
23:59 <Durka_> #ping
23:59 <@armabot> pong
23:59 <ghableska> notspidey: soldat?
23:59 <notspidey> 'er
23:59 <notspidey> i'm in lala land
23:59 <notspidey> what did you want?

Log from 2006-12-31:
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00:00 <ghableska> is soldat any good? :P
00:00 <notspidey> it's 2-d
00:00 -!- Self_Destructo [n=drjames@h18.171.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
00:00 <ghableska> so?
00:01 <notspidey> well
00:01 <notspidey> the clan me lizz and damien start has
00:01 <notspidey> 2 webhosts, 2 dedicated server, i'm running a dedicated server..and damien runs one on and off
00:02 <notspidey> if i didn't *like* it i wouldn't even bother with 1 :p
00:02  * ghableska wonders if something notspidey likes is worth liking in the first place
00:02 <ghableska> :P
00:03 <notspidey> then don't ask me if it's any good
00:03 <notspidey> find out for yourself
00:20 <DrJoeTron> ghableska soldat sucks
00:20 <DrJoeTron> really really sucks
00:20 <DrJoeTron> its fun, for like an hour
00:20 <DrJoeTron> and then you realize you could be playiing CS:S :p
00:20 <ghableska> haha
00:21 -!- Self_Destructo [n=drjames@h18.171.40.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #armagetron
00:22 <ghableska> #ircstats
00:22 <@armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
00:22 <Durka_> ive writen 2006 lines
00:22 <Durka_> lol
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00:27 <wrtlprnft> wb Durka_ 
00:27 <madmax|pt> hello
00:27 <ghableska> hi madmax|pt
00:27 <madmax|pt> hi ghab
00:27 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: and i still wonder why you op yourself, op armabot, then deop yourself
00:28 <luke-jr> easier
00:28 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: I've gone back to having the shortest lines x_x
00:28 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v armabot] by ChanServ
00:28 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o armabot] by ChanServ
00:28 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
00:28 <wrtlprnft> what's easier about it?
00:29 <luke-jr> less typing
00:29 <Durka_> hi kay
00:29 -!- Durka_ is now known as Durka
00:30 <wrtlprnft> if i'm already typing /msg chanserv op #armagetron i might as well include the armabot
00:30  * wrtlprnft notes that he can tab complete everything besides the “op” if he runs the command from this channel
00:30 <luke-jr> true
00:31 <luke-jr> well, I can't tab ChanServ :(
00:32 <wrtlprnft> /completion /msg Chanserv
00:32 <wrtlprnft> that's all you need for that, at leas in irssi
00:33 <luke-jr> [23:33:31] [Error] completion: Unknown command.
00:33 <wrtlprnft> error 101010: bad irc client
00:34 <luke-jr> at least mine has a GUI
00:34 <wrtlprnft> mine uses konsole for a gui :P
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00:45 <wrtlprnft> wow
00:45 <ghableska> ?
00:45 <wrtlprnft> Subject: [7]: Buy impotence drugs with us much cheaper!
00:45 <ghableska> Hahaha
00:45 <wrtlprnft> now why would i want to buy drugs that make me impotent?
00:48 <wrtlprnft> oh wow.
00:48 <wrtlprnft> wizzee is leaving mbc
00:48 <wrtlprnft> i guess it's time for me to free up 6 chars in my nick as well
00:49 <ghableska> she's been with mbc for a long time, right?
00:49 <wrtlprnft> she's been the leader of mbc
00:50 <wrtlprnft> dunno who will become the new one
00:50 <ghableska> ota
00:50 <ghableska> ?
00:50 <wrtlprnft> possibly
00:50 <wrtlprnft> i don't know much about mbc affairs anymore
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00:57 <notspidey> nah
00:57 <notspidey> micro will
01:00 <wrtlprnft> ah
01:00 <notspidey> but
01:00 <wrtlprnft> he always seemed to want to be a nonleader
01:00 <notspidey> i don't think mbc will last without lizz
01:01 <notspidey> i don't understand
01:01 <wrtlprnft> i'm really thinking about leaving, as i said
01:01 <notspidey> she wouldn't let me leave
01:01 <notspidey> but then she turns around and leaves
01:01 <notspidey> wtf's the justice in this world >:|
01:01 <wrtlprnft> but that was a while ago
01:01 <notspidey> so
01:01 <notspidey> if i can't leave neither can she
01:02 <notspidey> hmm
01:02 <notspidey> i'm a sserver mod
01:02 <notspidey> and the ogame clan leader
01:02 <notspidey> o.O
01:02 <notspidey> and a veteran member
01:02 <notspidey> wow...i forgot what all i was 
01:02 <notspidey> o.O
01:02 <ghableska> O_o
01:02 <wrtlprnft> o.O.o
01:02 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: stop growing extra eyes
01:03 <notspidey> haha
01:03 <wrtlprnft> °_0_O_o_ø_Ø_@
01:03 <ghableska> o0
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> \-.-/
01:03 <Lucifer_arma>  \
01:03 <notspidey> wrtlprnft, you wasn't ever offered to be a server mod?
01:03 <Lucifer_arma> er
01:03 <wrtlprnft> notspidey: no
01:04 <notspidey> pwn
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> that wasn't nice
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> #kick notspidey
01:04 <wrtlprnft> i guess i became sort of inactive in mbc too early
01:04 <notspidey> lol
01:04 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
01:04 <notspidey> well
01:04 <wrtlprnft> basically ever since i discovered cvs fortress for me
01:04 <notspidey> i've been in mbc for over a year
01:04 <Lucifer_arma> <-.->
01:04 <wrtlprnft> me too
01:04 <notspidey> yea, i played fortress alot...but i still played on the mbc server
01:05 <wrtlprnft> «≤—_—≥»
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> +--->
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> |
01:05 <notspidey> going from 5rubber and a 200ping to a 50ping and 200rubber
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> |
01:05 <notspidey> wow
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> \/
01:05 <notspidey> they couldn't touch me >.>
01:05 <notspidey> Lucifer_arma, spammer
01:05 <wrtlprnft> yeah, indeed
01:05 <Lucifer_arma> #kick Lucifer_arma (hi there!) 
01:05 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
01:05 <wrtlprnft> #kick Lucifer_arma 
01:05  * ghableska misses cvs fortress
01:05 -!- Lucifer_arma was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [wrtlprnft]
01:05 <wrtlprnft> err
01:05 <ghableska> haha
01:05 <wrtlprnft> that worked?!
01:05 <wrtlprnft> oops
01:05 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan@ppp-70-244-120-143.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
01:05 <notspidey> ROFL!!!!
01:06 <ghableska> #kick ghableska
01:06 <@armabot> ghableska: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
01:06 <wrtlprnft> didn't expect it to work
01:06 <ghableska> aww 
01:06 <wrtlprnft> #whoami
01:06 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft
01:06 <ghableska> #whoami
01:06 <@armabot> ghableska: I don't recognize you.
01:06 <ghableska> o0
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> #kick Lucifer_arma
01:06 -!- Lucifer_arma was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [Lucifer_arma]
01:06 <wrtlprnft> ok, that was his fault
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01:06 <notspidey> #whoami
01:06 <@armabot> notspidey: spidey
01:06 <Lucifer_arma> #whoami
01:06 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: Lucifer_arma
01:06 <notspidey> :D
01:06 <ghableska> wtf
01:06 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer_arma] by ChanServ
01:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer_arma] by Lucifer_arma
01:07 <notspidey> ...
01:07 <wrtlprnft> now that was the most sensible oping i've ever seen
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> heh
01:08 <Lucifer_arma> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=214136&cid=17402144  <-- why did that comment get modded up?
01:08 <ghableska> #whoami
01:08 <@armabot> ghableska: I don't recognize you.
01:09 <notspidey> #whoami
01:09 <@armabot> notspidey: spidey
01:09 <ghableska> ...
01:09 <notspidey> pwn
01:09 <wrtlprnft> now try kicking
01:09 <notspidey> #kick wrtlprnft
01:09 <@armabot> notspidey: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
01:09 <ghableska> #google fight notspidey ghableska
01:10 <@armabot> ghableska: ghableska: 51, notspidey: 0
01:10 <wrtlprnft> #google fight wrtlprnft ghableska 
01:10 <ghableska> :)
01:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: wrtlprnft: 605, ghableska: 51
01:10 <ghableska> wrtlprnft will win
01:10 <wrtlprnft> pwn
01:10 <ghableska> er
01:10 <notspidey> #google fight ghableska spidey
01:10 <@armabot> notspidey: spidey: 170000, ghableska: 51
01:10 <notspidey> eat it
01:10 <ghableska> spidey isn't unique :P
01:10 <Lucifer_arma> #google fight spidey lucifer
01:10 <ghableska> at least wrtlprnft is
01:10 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: lucifer: 560000, spidey: 170000
01:10 <wrtlprnft> #google fight "common sense" spidey
01:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: common sense: 5430000, spidey: 170000
01:10 <ghableska> #google fight ghableska wuttle
01:11 <@armabot> ghableska: wuttle: 107, ghableska: 51
01:11 <notspidey> #google fight "everyone else" Lucifer_arma
01:11 <ghableska> ...
01:11 <wrtlprnft> i don't think common sense will ever win over spidey
01:11 <@armabot> notspidey: everyone else: 8510000, Lucifer_arma: 30
01:11 <wrtlprnft> #google lucifer_arma
01:11 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.13 seconds: Log opened Tue May 30 00:00:23 2006 03:16 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael ...: <http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/t2-2006-05-30>; Log opened Sun May 28 00:00:11 2006 00:32 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave ...: <http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/t2-2006-05-28>; #armagetron @ freenode stats by Guru3: <http://guru3.sytes.net/ircstats/armagetron.html>; t2-2006-05-28: (2 more messages)
01:11  * Lucifer_arma considers changing his forum name to Lucifer_arma
01:11 <ghableska> #google ghableska
01:11 <@armabot> ghableska: Search took 0.18 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: Viewing profile: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=829&sid=5dc890268f8632d6e99ed3aff30c0222>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - BUG cries on Bugfarm Fortress ...: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=3081&>; View the profile of ghableska: <http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?action=profile;u=2509>; TRONICv1 - (2 more messages)
01:11 <Lucifer_arma> #google some dumbshit
01:11 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.24 seconds: Rothscadl Federal Investigation: <http://www.topix.net/forum/city/detroit-lakes-mn/TAPKO3RV6KUPE7GLF>; YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.: <http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dumbshit>; 8Bit Joystick.com: Why You Should Not Watch The Superbowl: <http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_why_you_should_not_watch_the_superbowl.php>; Scrapers: (2 more messages)
01:11 <ghableska> haha
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #google I have to take a shit
01:12 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.13 seconds: Amazon.com: You Don't Have to Take it Anymore: Turn Your Resentful ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Take-Anymore-Compassionate/dp/0743284690>; Amazon.com: You Don't Have to Take It!: A Woman's Guide to ...: <http://www.amazon.com/You-Dont-Have-Take-Confronting/dp/1878067354>; Good Morning Silicon Valley: IBM OmniFind Yahoo Edition? Must have ...: (3 more messages)
01:12 <ghableska> err
01:12 <wrtlprnft> http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/forum2/member.php?u=337
01:12 <wrtlprnft> !
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> #google "I have to take a shit"
01:12 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: Search took 0.05 seconds: Amazon.com: You Don't Have to Take it Anymore: Turn Your Resentful ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Take-Anymore-Compassionate/dp/0743284690>; Amazon.com: You Don't Have to Take It!: A Woman's Guide to ...: <http://www.amazon.com/You-Dont-Have-Take-Confronting/dp/1878067354>; Good Morning Silicon Valley: IBM OmniFind Yahoo Edition? Must have ...: (3 more messages)
01:12 <Lucifer_arma> you find my church of google profile?
01:12 <wrtlprnft> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&hs=kf8&pwst=1&q=+site:wrtlprnft.ath.cx+lucifer_arma
01:12 <wrtlprnft> woot
01:13 <wrtlprnft> looks like google indexed all my stats
01:13 <Lucifer_arma> I signed up, chatted for awhile, then said "these guys aren't any better than those stupid jesus lovers"
01:13 <wrtlprnft> #list channel
01:14 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: alert, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, cycle, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, enable, halfop, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, invite, kban, key, kick, limit, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, mode, moderate, nicks, op, unban, unmoderate, and voice
01:14 <wrtlprnft> #help channel cycle
01:14 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (channel cycle [<channel>]) -- If you have the #channel,op capability, this will cause the bot to "cycle", or PART and then JOIN the channel. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
01:14 <wrtlprnft> i wonder what's that good for
01:14 <wrtlprnft> #cycle
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01:14 <ghableska> O_o
01:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's not op anymore
01:14 <wrtlprnft> at least that deoped her
01:14 <wrtlprnft> #help channel limit
01:14 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (channel limit [<channel>] [<limit>]) -- Sets the channel limit to <limit>. If <limit> is 0, or isn't given, removes the channel limit. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
01:15 <wrtlprnft> doesn't tell me what a channel limit is
01:17 <Lucifer_arma> why, it's a limit on the channel
01:18  * ghableska goes off to get chocolate
01:18  * Lucifer_arma goes to see if his shitter is clear for use yet
01:18 <wrtlprnft> what's limited?
01:18 <Lucifer_arma> the channel!
01:19 <Lucifer_arma> shouldn't you be in bed?
01:20 <wrtlprnft> will be soon
01:20 <wrtlprnft> what about the channel?
01:21 <Lucifer_arma> the part that's limited
01:21 <wrtlprnft> the number of lines she can talk? the number of leaves and joins before she suicides? the number of allowed swear words? the number of people like notspidey (hi there!!!)
01:21 <wrtlprnft> ?
01:23 <wrtlprnft> ooh
01:23 <wrtlprnft> i guess it's just the number of people in the channel
01:25 <Lucifer_arma> set it to 10 and see who she kicks
01:26 <wrtlprnft> haha
01:26 <wrtlprnft> she's not op anymore, and i'm tired
01:26 <wrtlprnft> and i don't want guru3 to be mad at me
01:26 <wrtlprnft> do it if you like, but it's not my responsibility then
01:26 <wrtlprnft> #night
01:26 <armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
01:28  * Lucifer_arma thinks he's brought enough chaos and confusion here today
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> #seen Your_mom_arma
01:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Your_mom_arma was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 2 days, 18 hours, 46 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Your_mom_arma> haha
01:28 <Lucifer_arma> #seen your_ass
01:28 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: your_ass was last seen in #armagetron 6 days, 18 hours, 2 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <Your_ass> FUCK FUCK SHIT SHIT OH WHAT A RELIEF IT IS
01:30 <Lucifer_arma> should I try to sell a how-to give a blowjob article to playgirl?
01:32 <notspidey> hmm
01:36 <notspidey> #night
01:37 <armabot> Good night notspidey!
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02:25 <GodTodd> shit fuck satan death sex drugs rape
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02:56 <Novocaine_> Good evening, anyone awake?
02:58 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping!
02:58  * Lucifer_arma is asleep
02:58 -!- |CruZ| [n=cruzer@p57AF2915.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
02:59 <|CruZ|> good evening ;>
02:59 <Lucifer_arma> is it ladle time already?
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03:04 <Durka> #hello
03:04 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: She cried, and the judge wiped her tears with my checkbook. || -- Tommy Manville
03:07 <Durka> #ping
03:07 <armabot> pong
03:07 <Durka> :p
03:14 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: what sound does the machine that goes piiinnnnnnnnng make?
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> heh, I just wrote a query letter riddled with "Guitar Player this" and "Guitar Player that", then was rereading the market listing and thought I saw "Guitar for the practicing musician"
03:32 <Lucifer_arma> *phew*.  It's Guitar Player, I was just tripping.
03:32 <ghableska> #weather 50266
03:32 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 49.5°F (8:28 PM CST on December 30, 2006). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 46.4°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.00 in 981.9 hPa. 
03:36  * ghableska engages in a lively conversation with armabot
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03:51  * Lucifer_arma suggests ghableska (hi there!) wake up GodTodd (hi there!) 
03:52 <ghableska> GodTodd: PING DAMNIT.
03:54 <Comsn> #onelineservers
03:54 <Comsn> #onlineservers
03:54 <Comsn> #armaservers
03:54 <Comsn> ;\
03:54 <armabot> Comsn: Norm's Place (10 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (5 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || G-Land (A Swamplords server) (3 players) || Wild West =Sumo= (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (2 players) || MICROSHOP68 SPEED LAN MULHOUSE (1 players) || Super (1 more message)
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> Does not pay writers at this time.
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> Offers kill fee.
04:01 <Lucifer_arma> that doesn't make any sense.  If they don't pay writers, how the hell can they offer a kill fee?
04:02 <Comsn> that thing is old data
04:02 <Comsn> no one was in styball :v
04:06 <Lucifer_arma> it's guaranteed to be at least 1 minute old, iirc
04:07 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: Fling!
04:10 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
04:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 23°F / -5°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM AST; Tonight - A few flurries ending near midnight then clearing. Wind west 20 km/h gusting to 40 becoming northwest 20 gusting to 40 near midnight. Low minus 8.; Sunday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40 (1 more message)
04:10 <Vanhayes> #more
04:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: becoming light in the afternoon. High minus 6. Sunday night..clear. Low minus 11.; Monday - Periods of snow. High plus 1.;
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04:15 <Lucifer_arma> quick!  Somebody!  Give me a blowjob!
04:16 <Novocaine_> *gives blowjob*
04:16 <ghableska> o0
04:16  * ghableska covers eyes
04:16  * Vanhayes wonders if that would work in real life
04:16 <Novocaine_> In real life I'd bite it off.
04:17 <Novocaine_> :\
04:17 <Vanhayes> Durka: who hosts durka durka land? luke?
04:18 <Vanhayes> #server details d u r
04:18 <luke-jr> Steam IIRC
04:18 <Vanhayes> #serverdetails -v d u r
04:18 <armabot> Vanhayes: ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (81.169.143.153:4538) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://ddl.notlong.com, Description: “Medium rubber, tight double binds, good brakes, medium speed, & more...(Hosted on the SteamMachine)“, Players (9/14): b@(0n ~[pi]~, frederick, harrythegreek, luttjeboer, Needle, Q:A, SHACE, Vanhayes, ^(0_0)^ >(0_0)>
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04:19 <Vanhayes> guess so
04:25  * luke-jr pokes mkzelda
04:26 <Lucifer_arma> you can tell luke hosts it by the fact that there's like 50 of 'em in the master server browser
04:28 <Lucifer_arma> well, if an agent doesn't want to tell me about their recent sales, I'm not interested
04:30 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6625 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.3.0.ebuild: mkzelda reports success on sparc
04:30 <luke-jr> #later tell mkzelda would you mind testing the other versions (0.2.7.1-r2, 0.2.8.1, 0.2.8.2, and 0.2.8.2.1) on sparc and email me the results? thx
04:30 <armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:31 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r6626 /armagetronad/trunk/build/gentoo/overlay/games-action/armagetronad/Manifest: update Manifest
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05:08 <Lucifer_arma> GodTodd: ping again!
05:09 <ghableska> haha
05:22 <Lucifer_arma> you're not laughing at me, are you?
05:22 <ghableska> never
05:23  * GodTodd blinks.
05:24 <GodTodd> yes?
05:24 <GodTodd> errr....need to emulate luke....wtf do you want now?
05:24 <GodTodd> :)
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> heh
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> I've just been piling shit up
05:25 <GodTodd> stinky
05:25 <Lucifer_arma> first.  :)  website traffic's increasing, means we need to write more.  :/
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> we're not talking overnight sensation traffic, but we're hitting over 100 ad views at least once a week, which is about 20 more than the previous max
05:26 <GodTodd> aye...been thinking the same thing...hopefully in the next day or two get another thingy written :/
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.contemporarypress.com/index.php?/site/submissions  <--- this is for you, it's got your name all over it
05:26 <Lucifer_arma> also, if you have some money to toss out...
05:26 <GodTodd> really? they stalking me?
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.writersmarket.com/   <--- good listings on the surface, I'll let you know if I sell anything
05:27 <Lucifer_arma> they cost money, but it's like $4/month, yearly subscription gets a discount of course
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> and finally... :)
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> http://www.comstockcards.com/write_guide.htm  <--- greeting cards
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> they haven't responded to the stuff I sent yet, so I can't vouch for them either, but it's neat
05:28 <Lucifer_arma> you've seen comstock cards in the store, I'm sure
05:28 <GodTodd> probably
05:30 <Lucifer_arma> there ya go.  I had more stuff earlier that I've forgotten now.  :)
05:31 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, the source I had for the comstock link said $50-$100 for each gagline accepted
05:33 <GodTodd> cool :)
05:34 <GodTodd> bahaha
05:34 <GodTodd> We're not interested in sappy memoirs or discovering the meaning of life in a drop of rainwater, but if you can churn out a sexy, quirky page-turner, we want to see it.
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> told you it had you written all over it
05:37 <Lucifer_arma> that writersmarket place has a directory of agents, too
05:38 <GodTodd> cool...it'd probably be like the books i already use....but with copy and paste convenience
05:38 <Lucifer_arma> and frequently updated
05:38  * GodTodd wonders if he could write a 'sexy, quirky page turner'.....
05:39 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, the website is the same people that make the book Writer's Markets, so if you're using one of their books already...
05:39 <GodTodd> hmmm i have one that might just fit that....
05:39 <GodTodd> i'm using two :)
05:39 <GodTodd> the markets and the agents
05:42  * Lucifer_arma spent the day sending out queries
05:42  * Lucifer_arma hopes Guitar Player is interested in his query :)
05:44  * GodTodd needs to have a 'query party' day again
05:44 <GodTodd> especially for Project: Dreamcatcher
05:45 <GodTodd> comstock might be cool too....one liners are fun :)
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I'll let you know how many of mine they take
05:46 <GodTodd> at 50-100 a pop...that could add up
05:46 <Lucifer_arma> I found several others, and even submitted to one that does rude merchandise
05:47 <GodTodd> hahah
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, if they take 6, and it takes you an hour or two to write them, that's $600 for less than an afternoon's work
05:47 <Lucifer_arma> the real question is how many they'll take over the course of a month?
05:47 <GodTodd> right
05:48 <GodTodd> if it's prolific enough...just that would be a nice living
05:48 <Lucifer_arma> if I *could* get $600/week from greeting cards, that's a pretty good base to work from
05:48 <GodTodd> yep
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> not quite a living, but a good base.  :)
05:50 <GodTodd> yeah....but prolificity is the key....12 *could* be 1200 a week....4800 a month :P
05:50 <Lucifer_arma> that's also figuring at the "we know you pretty well" rate.  First submission's guaranteed to get $50/pop if anything
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> well, I'm about to pass out, so I'm going to lay down and fall asleep.  I suspect I'll be waking up to puke in a bit, but I hope not
05:53 <Lucifer_arma> #night
05:53 <armabot> Good night Lucifer_arma!
05:53 <GodTodd> night
06:29 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_midlands/6219265.stm
06:29 <ghableska> hahaha
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07:00 -!- Arma90 is now known as Durka
07:01 <Durka> #hello
07:01 <Durka> #ping
07:03 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: An economist is a man who would marry Farrah Fawcett-Majors for her money.
07:03 <armabot> pong
07:17 <Durka> #armaservers
07:17 <armabot> Durka: Wild West =Capture The Flag= (7 players) || The Lobster Cage (6 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server - Low Rubber (5 players) || Wild West =Fortress= (3 players) || splat!!DONT HIT THE WALLL!(NEW GAME!!) (1 players) || MICROSHOP68 SPEED LAN MULHOUSE (1 players) || Wild West =Wild Fortress= (1 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (1 players) || Unnamed Server (0 players) || Legendary High Rubber Clan Server (0 (1 more message)
07:17 <Durka> #more
07:17 <armabot> Durka: players) || (Moo) Clan [ Cow Farm ] (0 players) || Arena 51 Fight Club (0 players) || LoBo'S Habitat (0 players) || Wild West =Team Sumo= (0 players) || Sumo Bar (0 players)
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07:23 <Durka> hello
07:23 <Abhor> hello
07:24 <Abhor> screw it
07:24 -!- Abhor is now known as Genki
07:24 <Genki> Hey Durka, loops is making me a banner
07:27  * Genki pokes Durka
07:27 <Genki> get back here!
07:28 <Durka> hi beki
07:28 <Durka> genki
07:28 <Genki> heya
07:29 <Durka> why dont u put in the forum sections on ur site
07:29 <Genki> what?
07:29 <Durka> and do u want the shoutbox right there?
07:29 <Durka> above the forum indeex?
07:29 <Genki> yep ^_^
07:29 <Genki> I like it
07:30 <Durka> lol
07:30 <Durka> long into the admin panel and do the stuff
07:30 <Durka> like the general config
07:30 <Durka> and forum stuff
07:30 <Genki> I would if I knew how :-D
07:31 <Durka> ok fine :p
07:31 <Durka> u want it to be called genki's place?
07:32 <Genki> Yeppers
07:32 <Genki> it's simple and I'm too lazy to think of abetter name
07:32 <Durka> ok
07:32 <Genki> and my spacebar isn't working that well...
07:32 <Durka> what do u want it to say
07:32 <Durka> Genki's Place - A forum for....
07:32 <Genki> ummm
07:32 <Genki> spam? lol
07:33 <Genki> I have no idea
07:33 <Genki> A forum for Genki's Peeps?
07:33 <Genki> haha
07:33 <Genki> I know I'm lame, you don't have to say it
07:33 <Durka> lol
07:34 <Genki> well... maybe say it once...
07:34 <Durka> lol
07:35 <Genki> :-D
07:35 <Genki> sorry really happy today ^_^
07:35 <Genki> but yeah loops is making me a banner
07:35 <Genki> and I think I stressed him out because I didn't know what I wanted on it lol
07:36 <Genki> I just told him to make a banner with a height of 120 lol
07:37 <Genki> and are you going to create more forums/categories? or is that my job?
07:38 <Durka> whats ur email
07:38 <Genki> BabyGenki@tygo.com
07:38 <Genki> omg did I just put that out in public? no stalkers please!
07:38 <Genki> hehe
07:38 <Genki> yeah ok... calming down...
07:39 <Genki> sorta... kinda...
07:40  * Genki notices she has about 5 posts for every 1 Durka posts
07:42 <Genki> #lastseen 3dot
07:42 <Durka> #lastseen 4dot
07:42 <Genki> 4dot?
07:43 <armabot> Genki: °¯°3dot °'° has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 4 days 9 hours 23 minutes ago.
07:43 <armabot> Durka: °¯°¯ 4dot °¯°¯ has last been seen on Fortress Café 0 days 11 hours 6 minutes ago.
07:43 <Genki> 4 days O.O
07:43  * GodTodd stalks Genki.
07:43 <Genki> ahhh!
07:43 <Genki> oh
07:44 <Genki> psh
07:44 <Genki> it's ONLY Todd
07:44 <Durka> tod!
07:44 <Durka> lol
07:44 <GodTodd> :P
07:44 <Genki> hey Mr Todd man sir
07:44 <GodTodd> yes, ma'am?
07:45 <Genki> nothing, just saying hi
07:45 <GodTodd> oh
07:45 <GodTodd> well
07:45 <GodTodd> hi then
07:45 <GodTodd> heh
07:45 <Genki> but I think Durka wants your attention
07:45 <Genki> lol
07:45 <GodTodd> nah...durka just wants me
07:45 <Durka> of course
07:45 <Genki> he had an exclimation point and every
07:45 <Genki> and totally spelled that wrong...
07:46 <Genki> exclamation... exclamition... exclemation... excla... how do you spell it? lol
07:46 <GodTodd> heh
07:46 <GodTodd> exclamation
07:46 <Genki> you sure?
07:46 <GodTodd> #dict exclamation
07:46 <Durka> ok now u have to make the forums and categories
07:46 <armabot> GodTodd: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: exclamation n 1: an abrupt excited utterance; "she gave an exclamation of delight"; "there was much exclaiming over it" [syn: {exclaiming}] 2: a loud complaint or protest or reproach 3: an exclamatory rhetorical device; "O tempore! O mores" [syn: {ecphonesis}]; moby-thes: 45 Moby Thesaurus words for "exclamation": Parthian shot, address, affirmation, (3 more messages)
07:47 <Genki> okies
07:47 <Durka> keep in mind that there can be unlimited sub categories and forums
07:47 <Durka> #ping
07:47 <armabot> pong
07:47 <Genki> yep yep ^_^
07:47  * GodTodd should be writing for Lucifer_arma's site. :/
07:47 <Genki> haha
07:48 <Genki> well luckily I know a bunch of great guy friends who laugh at my attempt at making a forum
07:48 <Genki> *cough*Durka*cough*
07:48 <Durka> lol
07:48 <Durka> :p
07:48 <Genki> so wait what? I can make forums/catergories now?
07:49 <GodTodd> categories too :P
07:49 <Genki> gah!
07:49 <Genki> you know what!
07:49 <Genki> gah Ican't spell it
07:49 <Durka> lol
07:49 <Genki> lol
07:49 <GodTodd> yep he lives next to who :)
07:49 <Genki> haha
07:49 <GodTodd> good guy, that what
07:49 <Genki> hold on lemme look up a word really quick
07:50 <Durka> GodTodd: #roulette
07:50 <Genki> you're pedant!! haha
07:50 <Durka> Genki: type #roulette
07:50 <GodTodd> pedantic?
07:50 <GodTodd> :D
07:50 <Genki> you know what!
07:50 <GodTodd> yep he lives next to who :)
07:50 <GodTodd> good guy, that what
07:51 <Genki> omg I can't even see I'm laughing to hard
07:51 <Genki> Durka make him stop lol
07:51 <Genki> #roulette
07:51 <armabot> Genki: *click*
07:51  * GodTodd is pretty funny...too bad looks aren't everything. :)
07:51 <Durka> again!
07:51 <Genki> why?
07:51 <Durka> genki again!
07:51 <Durka> its cool
07:51 <Durka> #roulette
07:51 <armabot> Durka: *click*
07:51 <Genki> will I get booted? lol
07:52 <GodTodd> only if armabot is op
07:52 <Genki> #roulette
07:52 <armabot> Genki: *click*
07:52 <GodTodd> which she isn't right now :)
07:52 <Genki> why are we clicking?
07:52 <Durka> #click
07:52 <GodTodd> no bullet
07:52 <GodTodd> #roulette
07:52 <Genki> hey Durka I have great news!
07:52 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:52  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:52 <Genki> talked to 3dot ^_^
07:53 <Durka> lmafo
07:53 <Durka> hahahaha armabot
07:53 <Genki> O.O
07:53 <Genki> dangerous
07:53  * Genki uses Todd as a shield
07:53 <Durka> #roulette
07:53 <armabot> Durka: *click*
07:53  * GodTodd farts.
07:53 <Durka> #roulette
07:54 <armabot> Durka: *click*
07:54 <Genki> ewwww
07:54 <Durka> #roulette
07:54 <armabot> Durka: *click*
07:54 <Durka> how many times?
07:54 <Durka> #roulette
07:54 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:54  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:54  * Genki coughs for air
07:54 <Durka> lol
07:54 <Genki> no seriously I am coughing lol
07:54 <GodTodd> use me as a shield and you takes your chances, girl :)
07:54 <Durka> #roulette
07:54 <armabot> Durka: *click*
07:54 <Genki> haha
07:54 <Durka> #roulette
07:54 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:54  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:54 <Durka> #roulette
07:54 <armabot> Durka: *click*
07:55 <Durka> #roulette
07:55 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
07:55  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
07:55 <Genki> hey Durka stop trying to get me shot for a minute
07:56 <Genki> how do I add categories?
07:56 <Durka> scroll down
07:56 <Durka> see it?
07:56 <Genki> mhmm
07:56 <Genki> mhmm
07:56 <Genki> nope
07:56 <GodTodd> not drupal is it?
07:57 <Durka> #roulette
07:57 <armabot> Durka: *click*
07:57 <Durka> lol
07:57 <Durka> #help
07:57 <armabot> Durka: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
07:57 <Genki> I'm not even an admin
07:57 <Durka> #help roulette
07:57 <armabot> Durka: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
07:57 <GodTodd> #help roulette
07:57 <armabot> GodTodd: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
07:58 <Genki> O.O
07:58 <Durka> #spin
07:58 <GodTodd> #roulette spin
07:58 <Genki> you guys are trying to get me killed
07:58 <Genki> you guys are trying to get me killed
07:58 <armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
07:58 <Genki> are you todd?
07:58 <GodTodd> #joke
07:58 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
07:58 <Genki> yeah Todd that's you
07:59 <Durka> #joke
07:59 <armabot> By royal decree, all humor has hereby been expunged from this channel. If you feel you absolutely *have* to be funny please find a channel where people are able to understand jokes.
07:59 <GodTodd> heh...i made that one :P
07:59 <GodTodd> i make the rule, i can break it....by the luke-jr theorem
07:59 <Genki> well you know what!
08:00 <Genki> :-D
08:00 <GodTodd> yep i do
08:00 <GodTodd> you have the hots for him or what?
08:00 <Durka> lol
08:00 <Genki> lol
08:00 <Genki> nope, just tank
08:00 <GodTodd> ah...going right for the top, eh? ;)
08:00 <GodTodd> heh
08:00 <Genki> haha
08:01 <GodTodd> #luke
08:01 <armabot> stfu, baka noob?? RTFM??
08:01 <Genki> haha
08:01 <Durka> lmao
08:01 <Durka> #luke
08:01 <armabot> stfu, baka noob?? RTFM??
08:01 <Durka> ?
08:02 <GodTodd> ?
08:03  * GodTodd does the "I killed chat" dance.
08:03  * Genki joins Todd in the "I killed chat" dance
08:05  * Genki is still waiting for Durka to explain to her how to log in so she can add categories/forums
08:05 <GodTodd> #alias
08:05 <GodTodd> #help alias
08:05 <Genki> #alias
08:05 <GodTodd> #roulette
08:06 <Genki> uh oh, you broke armabot!
08:06 <GodTodd> heh...i think we broke armabot. :/
08:06 <Genki> WE?!?!??!
08:06 <Genki> :P
08:06 <GodTodd> ok...durka
08:06 <GodTodd> :)
08:06 <Genki> hahaha
08:06 <Genki> yeah jeez Durka
08:06 <Genki> be considerate
08:06 <Genki> (was that spelled right?)
08:06 <GodTodd> maybe she's just lagged
08:06 <GodTodd> (yes it was)
08:07 <Genki> maybe
08:07 <Genki> (thanks)
08:07 <GodTodd> perhaps
08:07 <GodTodd> (no problem)
08:07 <Genki> possibly
08:07 <Genki> (can't think of anything lol)
08:07 <GodTodd> heh
08:08 <GodTodd> (heh)
08:08 <Genki> it's 008! what do you expect!
08:08 <GodTodd> 008?
08:08 <Genki> it's 8 minutes past midnight lol
08:08 <GodTodd> oh
08:08 <GodTodd> is not
08:08 <GodTodd> it's after 1
08:09 <Genki> it's 0709 GMT
08:09 <Genki> or UTC
08:09 <GodTodd> where are you again?
08:09 <Genki> Arizona
08:09 <GodTodd> ahhh
08:09 <GodTodd> i used to live there
08:09 <GodTodd> cool place
08:09 <Genki> O.O
08:09 <Genki> I hate it
08:09 <Genki> I'm a snow person
08:09 <GodTodd> where in AZ?
08:09 <Genki> or beach person
08:09  * GodTodd hates snow.
08:09 <Genki> O.o you stalking me?
08:09 <Genki> jk
08:10 <Genki> Tucson
08:10  * GodTodd used to live in Mesa.
08:10  * Genki loves snow
08:10 <Genki> ooo
08:10 <Genki> I got there a lot
08:10 <Genki> go*
08:10 <GodTodd> i lived off of greenfield and university
08:10 <Genki> O.O
08:10 <Genki> no way
08:10 <Genki> how long ago?
08:10 <Genki> where are you now?
08:10 <armabot> GodTodd: Error: There is no command "alias".
08:10 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
08:10  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
08:11 <Genki> haha
08:11 <GodTodd> heather brook apartments....it was in....94-97
08:11 <Genki> ah so I was a youngen' :-D
08:11 <Genki> well I wasn't in Arizona then lol
08:12 <Genki> I was in Wyoming! ^_^ blizzards yeah!
08:12 <GodTodd> heh
08:12  * GodTodd is in north texas now.
08:12 <Genki> hehe
08:12 <GodTodd> DFW
08:12 <Genki> No way!
08:12 <Genki> I was born in Texas lol
08:12  * GodTodd got his fill of snow a couple of years ago in Nebraska....3 feet in 3 weeks. *shudder*
08:12 <Genki> haha
08:13 <Genki> I'd love that
08:13 <Genki> ^_^ haven't seen snow for almost 4-5 years
08:13 <GodTodd> was crappy to drive 25 miles one way to work in that
08:13 <Genki> eek
08:13 <Genki> thankfully I can't drive yet...
08:13 <GodTodd> heh...in winter of 94 AZ got snow before Nebraska did
08:14 <Genki> >.<
08:14 <Genki> I was in Wyoming and about 3
08:14 <Genki> lol
08:14 <GodTodd> was like a quarter of an inch tops
08:14 <Genki> awww
08:14 <Genki> I prefer, 3ft high in 3 weeks
08:14 <GodTodd> funny to see saguaros dusted with snow, though
08:15 <Genki> heh, I imagine
08:16 <Genki> I'm going to somewhere in Texas in a year or 2...
08:16 <Genki> can't remember where
08:16 <Genki> but some college campus
08:16 <GodTodd> can't remember the college name?
08:17 <Genki> nope, because my friend told me over the phone (he's there already) and it hasn't come up since then
08:17 <GodTodd> heh
08:17 <Genki> I'm going to visit, to "check out the campus"
08:17 <GodTodd> there's only a few colleges in texas :)
08:17 <Genki> well if I tried I could probably remember lol
08:17 <Genki> but I'm lazy, and sleepy
08:18 <Genki> and where the heck did Durka disappear to?
08:18  * Genki pokes Durka in the head
08:18 <Genki> hehe
08:18 <Genki> Wait... are you in college?
08:18 <GodTodd> he's replacing his keyboard
08:18 <GodTodd> me?
08:18 <GodTodd> yeah
08:18 <Genki> o
08:18 <GodTodd> for the third time
08:18 <GodTodd> heh
08:19 <Genki> O.O
08:19 <Genki> what's your major?
08:19 <GodTodd> Computer Engineering
08:20  * Durka smacks Genki (wtf u want?)
08:20 <Genki> owwwww
08:20 <Genki> :(
08:20  * Genki sniffles
08:20 <Genki> that hurt
08:21 <Durka> lol
08:21 <Genki> Todd: I should have known
08:21  * Genki is hurt and curls up in the fetal position
08:21  * Genki starts chanting I'm not worthy!" "I'm not worthy!"
08:22 <Durka> ...do u want me?
08:22 <GodTodd> Genki: why?
08:22 <Genki> anywho, when are you graduating Todd?
08:22 <Genki> because
08:22 <GodTodd> 2010 hopefully
08:22 <Genki> I still can't make more forums
08:22 <GodTodd> #dance
08:22 <armabot> GodTodd does the 'I killed chat dance'.
08:22 <Genki> lol
08:22 <GodTodd> there :)
08:23 <Genki> I'll be a second year college student by then
08:23 <GodTodd> actually...
08:23 <GodTodd> #dance
08:23 <armabot> GodTodd does the 'I killed chat' dance.
08:23 <GodTodd> that's better
08:23 <Genki> lol
08:23 <GodTodd> well....i'll have a bachelor's and an associate's at that point
08:23 <Genki> awww no fair!
08:23 <GodTodd> Computer Networking and Computer Engineering
08:24 <Genki> *grumbles* I'm graduating early too :(
08:24 <GodTodd> well...i have a half a life head start on you :P
08:24 <Genki> lol
08:24 <Genki> you'd have to be 30ish
08:24 <Genki> wait...
08:24 <GodTodd> yeah...somewhere in there :)
08:25 <Genki> gah!
08:25 <Genki> you know what!
08:25 <Genki> don't answer that
08:25 <GodTodd> put it this way...my baby sister is 18
08:25 <Genki> okies
08:25 <GodTodd> and i'm a good sight older than her
08:26 <GodTodd> heh
08:26 <Genki> I get you and supa mista magic painter mixed up
08:26 <GodTodd> is that a good thing or a bad thing?
08:26 <Genki> a.k.a. you and DrJoe
08:26 <GodTodd> oh
08:26 <GodTodd> bad then ;)
08:26 <GodTodd> heh
08:26 <Genki> lol
08:26 <Genki> I have no idea why either
08:26 <GodTodd> yeah...joe is a youngun too
08:26 <Genki> haha
08:27 <GodTodd> cuz we're both smartassed pricks? :)
08:27 <Genki> lol
08:27 <Genki> eh, I'll settle for funny
08:27 <GodTodd> that sounds more diplomatic anyway
08:28 <Genki> I'm no diplomat though ^_^
08:28 <GodTodd> #quote get 21
08:28 <armabot> GodTodd: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
08:28 <Genki> haha
08:28 <Genki> >.>
08:29 <Genki> <.<
08:29 <Durka> Genki: add the forums and categories NOW!!!!!
08:29  * Genki pokes Durka
08:29 <Genki> ahhhh!
08:29 <Genki> oh jeez durka you scared the uhh bejeezus outta me
08:29  * GodTodd watches durka try to get forceful.
08:29 <Durka> ok im gonna get kicked
08:29 <Durka> bye guys
08:29 <Genki> wait!
08:29 <GodTodd> don't do it genki...make him hurt your pixels
08:29 <Genki> I still can't
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Genki> haha
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
08:30  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <Genki> I still can't log in
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Genki> >.<
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
08:30  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Genki> having fun?
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
08:30 <Genki> so uhh life
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
08:30 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:30 <Genki> STOP!!!!
08:30 <GodTodd>  /ignore Durka.
08:30 <Durka> #roulette
08:30 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:31 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
08:31  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
08:31 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:31 <Durka> kick me!
08:31 <Durka> ahhhh
08:31 <GodTodd> there's no op, dorkus
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <Genki> Durka I still don't know how to log in and add forums lol
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <Durka> #ping
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <armabot> pong
08:31 <Durka> aww i missed
08:31 <Durka> u dont remember ur password?
08:31 <Durka> ?
08:31 <Genki> I can't change anything I'm just a member it says
08:31 <Durka> #?
08:32 <Durka> o ya
08:32 <Durka> lol one sec
08:32 <Genki> :P
08:32 <Genki> Mr Todd Sir Man?
08:32 <GodTodd> heh...first rule of being forceful....if you tell someone to do something make sure they have the tools to do it
08:32 <GodTodd> yes, ma'am?
08:32 <Genki> lol
08:32 <Genki> just making sure you were still alive
08:32  * GodTodd dies.
08:33 <Genki> awesome, I call your computer
08:33 <Genki> lol
08:33 <Durka> ok there Genki
08:33 <GodTodd> which one? :P
08:33 <Durka> go to
08:33 <Genki> if you're dead what's the point of CPR?
08:33 <Durka> http://genki.freehostia.com/admin/index.php
08:33 <GodTodd> #cyborg cpr
08:33 <armabot> GodTodd: C.P.R.: Construct Programmed for Repair
08:33 <Durka> #cyborg
08:34 <armabot> Durka: D.U.R.K.A.: Digital Unit Responsible for Killing and Assassination
08:34 <Durka> lol
08:34 <Durka> #help g
08:34 <armabot> Durka: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google calc $*".
08:34 <Durka> #g 1+1
08:34 <armabot> Durka: 1 + 1 = 2
08:34 <Genki> k I see it
08:34 <Durka> wow
08:34 <Durka> its wrong o_O
08:35 <Genki> I wish my name had a cool meaning
08:35 <GodTodd> #cyborg genki
08:35 <armabot> GodTodd: G.E.N.K.I.: General Electronic Nocturnal Killing Individual
08:35 <GodTodd> you're a digital vampire
08:35 <Genki> Nocturnal?
08:35 <Genki> eh that works
08:36 <Genki> General Electronic... sounds like the Fry's behind my house
08:36 <GodTodd> #cyborg
08:36 <armabot> GodTodd: G.O.D.T.O.D.D.: General Organism Designed for Thorough Observation and Dangerous Destruction
08:36 <Genki> haha
08:36 <Genki> cool
08:36 <GodTodd> fry's...i love that place
08:36 <Genki> it's right behind my house
08:36 <GodTodd> so you said :P
08:37 <Genki> I think I've been in it... once
08:37 <GodTodd> i go there all the time
08:37 <Genki> in the past 4-5 years
08:37 <Genki> Hey Durka can I delete your test forum? lol
08:38 <GodTodd> #cyborg frys
08:38 <armabot> GodTodd: F.R.Y.S.: Functional Robotic Yelling Soldier
08:38 <Genki> #cyborg jenny
08:38 <armabot> Genki: J.E.N.N.Y.: Juggernaut Engineered for Nocturnal Necessary Yelling
08:38 <Genki> haha
08:38 <Genki> I'm the Juggernaut!
08:38 <GodTodd> #cyborg iwonderiftheresacharacterlimit
08:38 <armabot> GodTodd: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.
08:38 <Genki> *will not finish sentence
08:38 <GodTodd> yep...there is
08:38 <GodTodd> :)
08:38 <Genki> lol
08:39 <Genki> why are you up Mr Todd Sir Man?
08:40 <GodTodd> constructing a suitable email to my sister....i'm not too happy with her right now
08:40 <GodTodd> heh
08:40 <Genki> lol, can I ask why?
08:40 <GodTodd> general lack of respect and life direction
08:41 <GodTodd> basic teenager stuff
08:41 <Genki> I see
08:41 <Genki> can I get a copy of that? jk
08:41 <GodTodd> haha
08:42 <Genki> I am a teen after all :-D
08:42 <GodTodd> not to mention the loser boyfriend she's attached herself to
08:42 <Genki> haha
08:42 <Genki> *coughs* umm no boyfriend
08:43 <GodTodd> and i spent a solid two days fixing my mom's computer because my sister had messed it up to the point of blue screening every 3-5 minutes
08:43 <Genki> haha
08:43 <Genki> my mom is more likely to mess up the computer not me
08:44 <GodTodd> 200-300 pieces of malware and 115 viruses
08:44 <Genki> O.O
08:44 <Genki> even I understand that
08:44 <Genki> wow
08:45 <GodTodd> yeah...she's not too bright lately
08:45 <GodTodd> she's on her 4th computer in a couple of years
08:45 <Genki> *whistles*
08:47  * Genki wonders why her name appears as Abhor in the side bar
08:49 <Genki> #dict abhor
08:49 <armabot> Genki: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: abhor v : find repugnant; "I loathe that man"; "She abhors cats" [syn: {loathe}, {abominate}, {execrate}] [also: {abhorring}, {abhorred}]; moby-thes: 19 Moby Thesaurus words for "abhor": abominate, be hostile to, contemn, detest, disapprove of, disdain, disfavor, dislike, disrelish, execrate, hate, hold in abomination, loathe, mislike, not care for, scorn, (3 more messages)
08:50 <Genki> hmmm
08:50  * Genki thinks Durka should be proud of her, she's doing what he asked
08:51 <Durka> GOOD!
08:51 <Genki> O.O
08:52  * Genki didn't think Durka was actually here
08:53 <Durka> this window is below the tron one
08:53 <Durka> i see one message at a time
08:54 <Genki> tron one?
08:55 <Durka> arma
08:56 <Genki> o
08:56 <Genki> what server?
08:56 <Durka> #roulette
08:56 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:56 <Durka> I just am going to ctwf
08:56 <Durka> #roulette
08:56 <armabot> Durka: *click*
08:56 <Genki> #serverdetails wild
08:56 <armabot> Genki: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (3/14): Ðúrkå	Lv Hawk, Jihiro, Switch
08:56 <Genki> aww no one of interest
08:57  * Genki pokes Mr Todd Sir Man
08:57 <GodTodd> ow
08:58  * Genki pokes Mr Todd Sir Man softly so he he doesn't break a hip
08:58 <GodTodd> :P
08:59 -!- Vanhayes [n=Vanhayes@stjhnbsu83w-156034196079.nb.aliant.net] has quit ["" 'Tis the season to be jolly, falalalalalalalala.""]
08:59 <Durka> http://www.fictionpress.com/s/2294307/1/
09:00 <Durka> http://davefancella.com/node/105
09:00 <Genki> how'd you get that?
09:01 <Genki> my... story...
09:01 <Durka> get what
09:01 <Durka> :p
09:01 <Durka> u pasted it here by accident oonce :)
09:01 <Genki> you didn't read it did you?
09:01 <Durka> i have yet to do so
09:02 <Genki> phew.. ok
09:02 <Genki> why'd you have to post it again!??!?
09:02 <Durka> post what?
09:02 <Durka> lol
09:02 <Durka> :p
09:02 <Genki> ...
09:03 <Genki> if you read it tell me ok?
09:04  * Genki pokes durka hard
09:05 <Durka> i swear i didnt
09:06 <Durka> do u want me to? :p
09:07 <Genki> I just wanna know if you read it
09:07 <Genki> in the future
09:07 <Durka> k
09:07 <Durka> why
09:08 <Genki> cause... it mixes my history with my friend's
09:08 <Durka> o lol
09:09 <Genki> mostly my history heh...
09:09 <Durka> lol
09:09 <Durka> #roulette
09:09 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
09:09  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
09:10 <Durka> #help ping
09:10 <armabot> Durka: (ping takes no arguments) -- Checks to see if the bot is alive.
09:10 <Durka> #help pong
09:10 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no command "pong".
09:10 <Durka> #pongt
09:10 <Durka> #pong
09:11 <Durka> #ping
09:11 <armabot> pong
09:11 <Durka> #pong
09:11 <Durka> GENKI!
09:11 <Durka> catight? :p
09:12 <Genki> can't
09:12 <Genki> can't
09:12 <Genki> computer is in mom's room
09:12 <Genki> and she's sleeping
09:12 <Durka> lol
09:12 <Durka> look at how little # of ppl are online
09:13 <Durka> #armaservers
09:13 <armabot> Durka: Swampland in 2.7.1 (7 players) || Norm's Place (6 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (5 players) || MicroBusCity.com (3 players) || *FC* and |Dc~ Server.. (2 players) || MICROSHOP68 SPEED LAN MULHOUSE (1 players) || Capture the Flag (This could be your server!) (1 players) || Unnamed Server (0 players) || Legendary High Rubber Clan Server (0 players) || M0rph1umDuckz D3d1cat3d HUN (Linux, CET 17:00-06:00) (1 more message)
09:13 <Genki> and she'll be up at around 1100GMT
09:13 <Genki> wow
09:13 <Durka> #g 7+6+5+4+2+1+1
09:13 <armabot> Durka: 7 + 6 + 5 + 4 + 2 + 1 + 1 = 26
09:14 <Durka> 26 ppl online =/
09:14 <Durka> #serverdetails bus
09:14 <armabot> Durka: MicroBusCity.com: Players (3/16): CMG |mbc|, Dirg |MBC|, Ðúrkå	Knight |m
09:15 <Genki> brb
09:15 <Genki> Durka you better not leace!
09:17 <Genki> I totally meant leave
09:17 <Durka> lol
09:17  * Genki was suprised Mr Todd Sir Man didn't comment
09:17 <Genki> I was in a rush!
09:18  * GodTodd was busy reading.
09:19 <Genki> ?
09:19 <Genki> reading what?
09:19 <Genki> oh god no
09:19 <Genki> no no no
09:19 <Genki> not my story?
09:19 <Durka> lmao
09:19 <GodTodd> ummm...no...not at all
09:19 <GodTodd> ;)
09:20 <Durka> lol Todd
09:20 <Genki> *groans* please don't point out all my spelling errors
09:20 <Durka> woah
09:20 <Durka> genki: what computer are u on then?
09:21 <Genki> My school laptop
09:21 <Durka> put arma on it
09:22 <Genki> I would if I could
09:22 <Durka> why cant u
09:22 <Durka> ur hokme right?
09:22 <Durka> hoe*
09:22 <Durka> home***
09:22 <Genki> I can download stuff but it won't play it
09:22 <Durka> lol
09:22 <Genki> I'm hoe?
09:22 <Genki> ol
09:22 <Genki> lol*
09:22 <Durka> i meant home
09:22 <Durka> lol
09:22 <Durka> :p
09:22 <Genki> lol suuure
09:22 <Durka> why wont u be able to play it?
09:23 <Durka> have u tried b4?
09:23 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/dload.php
09:23 <Genki> I can download it but my computer doesn't recoginze the "application" it uses
09:23 <Durka> .exe
09:23 <Genki> I've tried several times in fact
09:23 <Durka> go to program files
09:24 <Durka> find the folder its in
09:24 <Durka> double click on the armagetron_advanced.exe
09:24 <Durka> that file
09:24 <Durka> or something named similar
09:24 <Genki> yeah yeah already tried
09:24 <Durka> really?
09:24 <Genki> hold up lemme get a screen shot
09:24 <Durka> u downloaded the .exe verison right?
09:25 <Genki> I've tried Durka lol
09:25 <Genki> let's leave it at that
09:26 <Genki> I have a screen shot, let me upload what I'm getting :-D
09:27 <Durka> k lol
09:27 <Genki> http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deniedau1.png - what happens when I click on download
09:28 <Durka> http://durka.freehostia.com/resource/other/upload-other.php
09:28 <Genki> stupid school
09:28 <Genki> nice Durka
09:28 <Durka> u have a mac?
09:28 <Durka> hmmm
09:28 <Durka> i think i can do something :p
09:29 <Genki> yep I have a Mac
09:29 <GodTodd> yep...that's definitely a mac
09:29 <Genki> hehe
09:29 <Durka> lol
09:29 <Durka> i can control ur computer from mine :)
09:30 <Genki> lmao!
09:30 <Durka> one sec
09:30 <Genki> seriously?
09:30 <Genki> cool
09:30 <Durka> lemme turn on the program
09:30 <Genki> ok, lemme hide my pron
09:30 <Genki> lol
09:32 <Durka> lol
09:32 <Durka> ive never tried this outside a LAN connection
09:32 <Durka> its so cool
09:32 <Genki> haha
09:32 <Durka> i need ur IP
09:32 <Durka> and a username and password of ur computer
09:32 <Genki> check on theforum it shows it there lol
09:32 <Durka> go create a bogus account and password
09:32 <Genki> and you do realize I don't have admin powers
09:32 <Durka> on ur computer so i can use it
09:32 <Durka> hmmm
09:33 <Durka> can u change ur password?
09:33 <Genki> nope
09:33 <Genki> but I trust you
09:33 <Genki> send it through e-mail or something
09:33 <Genki> or pm in ddl forums lol
09:34 <Durka> no wait
09:34 <Genki> ?
09:34 <Durka> lemme see if i can connect to ur IP
09:35 <Durka> what is it
09:35 <Genki> say it here?
09:35 <Durka> http://whatsmyip.org
09:35 <Durka> ill look it up
09:35 <Genki> I KNOW
09:35 <Durka> are u on my forums now?
09:35 <Genki> nope, but I can be in about two seconds
09:35 <GodTodd> one
09:35 <GodTodd> two
09:35 <GodTodd> :P
09:35 <Genki> lol
09:35 <Genki> weirdo
09:36 <GodTodd> and?
09:36 <Genki> I had to shuffle through allmy pron
09:36 <GodTodd> :D
09:36 <Durka> ok i got it
09:36 <Genki> mhmm
09:36 <Genki> I memorized... sad isn't it?
09:37 <Durka> lol
09:37 <Durka> i had my old ip memorized
09:37 <GodTodd> only if it's sad that i still know earthlink name server ips
09:37 <GodTodd> ;)
09:37 <Genki> haha
09:37 <Durka> lol
09:37 <Genki> I know most of my former teachers passwords and usernames
09:37 <Genki> they still use it
09:38 <Durka> lol
09:38 <Genki> but they don't have admin priviliges either :(
09:38 <Durka> j00 h4><0r
09:38 <Genki> lol
09:38 <Genki> I didn't hack, I was simply installing powerschool
09:38 <Genki> :-D
09:38 <Durka> lol
09:39 <Genki> My school trusts me that much lol
09:39 <Genki> togive me passwords to everyone's account
09:39 <GodTodd> poor school
09:39 <Genki> http://ehs.vail.k12.az.us/
09:40 <Genki> laptop based
09:41  * Genki yawns
09:42 <Genki> you need to get some sleep Durka
09:42 <Genki> all this hard work
09:42 <Genki> playing tron...
09:42 <Genki> hacking into my computer...
09:42 <Genki> the works
09:43 <Genki> Mr Todd Sir Man I know it doesn't take that long to read lol
09:48  * Genki wonders what the heck Durka is doing
09:48 <Durka> lol
09:49 <Durka> sry one sec
09:49 <Genki> brb if I'm staying up I need some sustenance
09:49 <Durka> lol
09:50 <Genki> ugh, there is no good food
09:50 <Genki> meaning there is only potato chips and candy and soda
09:50 <Genki> I think I might die
09:50 <Genki> somebody tell me they have a banana
09:51 <Durka> ok im connecting
09:51 <Genki> yep just chilling
09:53 <Durka> thats gay i have to ugpradde the program
09:53 <Durka> takes a sec
09:53 <Durka> its free:
09:53 <Durka> p
09:53 <Genki> lol
09:53 <Durka> :p *
09:53 <Genki> I was staring at my mouse
09:53 <Durka> lol
09:53 <Genki> waiting for it to move
09:53 <Durka> it will move soon
09:53 <Genki> lol
09:54 <Genki> k I'm make me some breakfast
09:54 <Durka> breakfast!
09:54 <Durka> ????
09:54 <Genki> bacon, toast, and eggs
09:54 <Durka> ¿¿¿¿¿¿
09:54 <Genki> want some?
09:54 <Durka> its night
09:54 <Genki> it's almost 2 am
09:54 <Genki> and it's better than potato chips
09:54 <Genki> and candy
09:54 <Genki> and soda
09:54 <Durka> lol
09:55 <Genki> I mean I'm no health freak but I have to keep in shape for soccer and such
09:55 <Genki> I'll take a big mac over a salad anyday :-D
09:56 <Genki> unless of course I'm sitting across from a hot guy, then I don't want to make a mess lol
09:56 <Genki> jk
09:56 <Durka> i want a double cheeseburger and hold the lettuce
09:56 <Durka> dont be fontin son no seeds on the bun
09:56 <Genki> lol
09:56 <Durka> lol that video
09:57 <Genki> there's actually an open McDonalds right next to Fry's...
09:57 <Genki> hmm
09:57  * Durka waits for this upgrade to finsih downloading!
09:57 <Durka> #armaservers
09:57 <armabot> Durka: MicroBusCity.com (5 players) || Norm's Place (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (2 players) || The Dip Bowl (2 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (2 players) || *FC* and |Dc~ Server.. (1 players) || MICROSHOP68 SPEED LAN MULHOUSE (1 players) || G-Land (A Swamplords server) (1 players) || 2020 team challenge (1 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (1 players) || Strawberry Fields (1 players) || (1 more message)
09:57 <Genki> *risk getting arrested or stay home and starve*
09:57 <Durka> #serverdetails wild
09:57 <armabot> Durka: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (3/14): SteeleR, Valff, °¯pixel
09:58 <Durka> wanna see the best bug of armabot?
09:58 <Genki> nobody in ddl?
09:58 <Genki> ame
09:58 <Genki> sure
09:58 <Durka> #serverdetails d u r k a
09:58 <armabot> Durka: ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬/xff9900: No online players.
09:58 <Genki> haha
09:58 <Durka> #lastseen gay-lin
09:58 <Durka> you know °°Hay-lin?
09:58 <Genki> yeah
09:59 <Genki> not really but I've seen them around
09:59 <Genki> him? her?
09:59 <Durka> well the bug is that the letter after the 2nd ° is one before the normal one
09:59 <Durka> her
09:59 <Durka> so before h is g
09:59 <Durka> so it says °°Gay-lin
09:59 <armabot> Durka: timed out
09:59 <Genki> lol
09:59 <Durka> aww she hasnt been on
09:59 <Durka> lest find manta
09:59 <Durka> #lastseen lanta
10:00 <Genki> lol
10:00 <armabot> Durka: °°Lanta has last been seen on  Wild West  =Capture The Flag= 3 days 4 hours 2 minutes ago.
10:00 <Genki> wow
10:00 <Genki> that right?
10:01 <Durka> lol
10:01 <Durka> #lastseen eeako
10:01 <Genki> wow, I honestly can say I feel like I'm drunk right now lol
10:01 <Durka> lmao
10:01 <Genki> it's like... every little thing is so amusing...
10:01 <Durka> for the °°ps dudes like manta its either: °°Lanta or °¯Manta
10:01 <Genki> haha
10:02 <armabot> Durka: timed out
10:02 <Durka> lol
10:02 <Genki> the two thingys before Lanta and Manta show up as black question boxes
10:02 <Durka> #lastseen Genki
10:02 <Genki> today ^_^
10:02 <armabot> Durka: Genki has last been seen on Norm's Place 0 days 19 hours 5 minutes ago.
10:02 <Genki> this morning
10:02 <Genki> hehe
10:03 <Genki> was talking to crsp
10:03 <Genki> #lastseen Abhor
10:03 <armabot> Genki: Abhor has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 0 days 12 hours 17 minutes ago.
10:03 <Genki> oh!
10:03 <Genki> rsp!
10:03 <Genki> crsp*
10:03 <Durka> lol
10:03 <Genki> you missed it durka
10:03 <Genki> I mean I was under the name Abhor
10:03 <Genki> and we were acting all gay lol
10:03 <Genki> it was fun
10:04 <Durka> cool?
10:04 <Durka> lol
10:04 <Genki> like he would say"I'm grinding as hard as I can"
10:04 <Durka> not funny
10:04  * Durka is not ammussed
10:04 <Durka> #ircstats
10:04 <armabot> http://www.electricpotential.net/ircstats/armagetron.html
10:04 <Genki> it was amusing to us ^_^
10:04 <Genki> everyone just ignored us I think lol
10:05 <Durka> lol
10:05 <Genki> and whats the name of the server? lol
10:05 <Genki> you made it
10:06 <Genki> pushed Fonkay off
10:06 <Durka> lol
10:06 <Durka> look at this from the stats
10:06 <Durka> spidey wasn't very popular, getting kicked 6 times!
10:06 <Genki> lol I know
10:06 <Durka> lol
10:06 <Durka> that was much earlier today though
10:07 <Durka> i had 2006 lines at the last time
10:07 <Genki> wow
10:07 <Durka> ive done more than 49 (i think thats it)
10:07 <Genki> hey can I log off of ddl forums or no?
10:07 <Genki> lol
10:07 <Durka> #g 2055-2006
10:07 <armabot> Durka: 2,055 - 2,006 = 49
10:07 <Durka> log off?
10:07 <Durka> ya u can
10:07 <Genki> okies
10:07 <Durka> the program didnt upgrade
10:07 <Durka> its a bootleg program
10:08 <Durka> ill spend all day 2maro trying to fix it :)
10:08 <Durka> do u want a cool program?
10:08 <Genki> haha what is it?
10:08 <Durka> iSerial
10:08 <Durka> 1000s of serial #s :p
10:08 <Durka> for macs
10:08 <Durka> or just http://seriall.com if ur lazy
10:09 <Durka> just use*
10:09 <Genki> Acess Denied :-D
10:09 <Genki> Access*
10:09 <Durka> lol
10:09 <Durka> hAHAHA
10:09 <Durka> ;)
10:09 <Genki> I think Mr Todd Sir Man fell asleep
10:09 <Genki> #lastseen GodTodd
10:10 <Genki> does he even use that name?
10:10 <Genki> or play?
10:10  * Durka is in a special channel with just him and armabot and wrtl
10:10 <Durka> he doesnt play
10:10 <Durka> he knows luci
10:10 <Genki> figures
10:10 <Genki> wrtl is talking?
10:10 <Durka> http://davefancella.com/node/105
10:10 <armabot> Genki: timed out
10:11 <Durka> #seen GodTodd
10:11 <armabot> Durka: GodTodd was last seen in #armagetron 31 minutes and 47 seconds ago: <GodTodd> poor school
10:11 <Durka> god i hate that bug
10:11 <Durka> #help seen
10:11 <armabot> Durka: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
10:11 <Durka> #help armaservers
10:11 <armabot> Durka: (armaservers [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armaservers at the RSS feed <http://electricpotential.net/serverrss.php>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
10:12 <Durka> lol go -> feed://electricpotential.net/serverrss.php
10:12 <Durka> #help help
10:12 <armabot> Durka: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
10:13 <Durka> #help -
10:13 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no command "-".
10:13 <Durka> #help cyborg
10:13 <armabot> Durka: (cyborg [<name>]) -- Returns a cyborg acronym for <name> from <http://www.cyborgname.com/>. If <name> is not specified, uses that of the user.
10:13 <Durka> #help nickometer
10:13 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no command "nickometer".
10:13 <Durka> #help nick
10:13 <armabot> Durka: (nick [<nick>]) -- Changes the bot's nick to <nick>. If no nick is given, returns the bot's current nick.
10:13 <Durka> #nick armabot2
10:13 <armabot> Durka: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
10:13 <Durka> awww
10:13 <Durka> #help meter
10:13 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no command "meter".
10:13 <Durka> #help lame
10:13 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no command "lame".
10:13 <Durka> where did it go?????!!!!
10:14 <Durka> the nick o meter?
10:14 <Durka> :(
10:14 <Durka> ^^^ spam ^^^
10:14 <Genki> lol don't ask me
10:14 <Durka> trying to find it
10:14 <Genki> haha
10:14 <Durka> lol
10:14 <Genki> that was nice
10:15 <Durka> too bad wrtl isnt paying attention XD
10:15 <Genki> lol
10:15 <Genki> I think he's away
10:15 <Genki> or asleep
10:15 <wrtlprnft> #morning
10:15 <armabot> Good Morning wrtlprnft Random Fortune: A freelance is one who gets paid by the word -- per piece or perhaps. || -- Robert Benchley
10:15 <Genki> ahhh!
10:15 <wrtlprnft> just finished breakfast
10:15 <Genki> omg
10:15  * Genki has a heart attack
10:15 <Durka> lol
10:15 <Durka> genki: type /join #arma-ladle
10:16 <wrtlprnft> the lame-nick-o-meter was removed quite a while ago
10:16 <wrtlprnft> err
10:16 <wrtlprnft> is the ladle today?
10:16 <Durka> or are u using the non-java applet that doesnt have color!
10:16 <Genki> cool
10:16 <wrtlprnft> …
10:16 <Genki> morning wrtl
10:16 <wrtlprnft> Genki is using joda's applet
10:17 <wrtlprnft> 10:16 -!- Genki [n=44e46ffa@h10487.serverkompetenz.net]
10:17 <wrtlprnft> 10:16 -!-  ircname  : [44e46ffa] CGI:IRC www.armagetron.nixda.net/cgi-bi
10:17  * Genki has no clue
10:18 <Genki> ooo
10:18 <Durka> well she's using a mixture between joda's mine and irc.blitz.org
10:18 <Genki> I'm using whatever isn't blocked lol
10:18 <Durka> from my site right?
10:19 <Genki> what?
10:19 <Durka> that thing that says login
10:19 <Genki> irc?
10:19 <Durka> at the top
10:19 <Genki> yeah
10:19 <Durka> ya its the mixture
10:19 <Genki> can't even click on IRC chat cause the java isn't installed :_D
10:19 <wrtlprnft> haha
10:19 <Genki> :-D
10:19 <Genki> #roulette
10:19 <Durka> its this
10:19 <armabot> Genki: *click*
10:19 <Durka> <script src="http://scripts.blitzed.org/cgiirc.js"></script> 
10:20 <Durka> thats the code
10:20 <Genki> haha
10:20 <Durka> lol
10:21 <Durka> neat code actually :p
10:21 <wrtlprnft> it's not even valid
10:21 <wrtlprnft> missing a type="text/javascript"
10:22 <Durka> dont need it
10:22 <Durka> actually i do
10:22 <Durka> still works though :p
10:23 <Durka> no wait
10:23 <Durka> where?
10:23 <Durka> :|
10:23 <Durka> i might as well not fuck around with it as it works perfectly for now
10:23 <Durka> but it's in german :|
10:24  * Genki wonders what Durka is talking about
10:24 <wrtlprnft> <script type="text/javascript" src="http://somewhere"></script>
10:24 <wrtlprnft> that's guaranteed to not break it
10:25 <Durka> o well it works
10:25 <Durka> :)
10:25 <Durka> and i like the search thing too
10:25 <Durka> comes in handy sometimes
10:25 <Durka> especially since they're right next to eachother :)
10:25 <wrtlprnft> btw, my chatlogs should be completely indexed now
10:25 <Durka> lol
10:26  * Durka is going to get rid of that annoying PJIRC picture in the background =/
10:26 <Durka> i cant see stuff
10:27 <wrtlprnft> http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&hs=sKH&q=site%3Awrtlprnft.ath.cx+durka&btnG=Search
10:28 <Durka> lol
10:28 <Durka> nice
10:28 <Durka> is ur site included in kyle's thing?
10:28 <Durka> hmmm lets see
10:28 <wrtlprnft> dunno
10:28 <wrtlprnft> where is it?
10:28 <Durka> no :(
10:28 <Durka> ill tell him to add it
10:29 <Durka> its at the top of my site next to the irc thing
10:29 <Durka> http://ddl.notlong.com
10:29 <Durka> http://wrtlpwnd|me|.com
10:29 <Durka> 1st one ;)
10:30  * Genki 
10:31 <Genki> wow
10:31 <Genki> I'm so tired I forgot to type in yawns
10:31  * wrtlprnft 
10:31 <Genki> Durka you don't need me for anything else tonight right?
10:31 <Genki> I can go sleepy?
10:31 <wrtlprnft> I'm so bored i forgot to type in laughs
10:31 <Durka> ya
10:31 <Durka> wrtl did u see it?
10:31 <Genki> lol be quiet wrtl
10:31 <Genki> lol be quiet wrtl
10:31 <Genki> gah
10:32 <Genki> #night
10:32 <armabot> Good night Genki!
10:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah
10:32 <Genki> ^_^
10:32 <Genki> makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
10:32 <Durka> o heres the direct link
10:32 <Durka> http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&lr=&client=google-coop&cof=AH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AArmagetron%2520Advanced%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.opensourcemac.org%2Ficon%2Farmagetron_icon.png%3BLH%3A100%3BLP%3A1%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B&q=&btnG=Search&cx=003169763212768703559%3Abnrl4ptylos
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10:33 <Durka> hmm look at the 3rd thing here -> http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&lr=&client=google-coop&cof=AH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AArmagetron%2520Advanced%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.opensourcemac.org%2Ficon%2Farmagetron_icon.png%3BLH%3A100%3BLP%3A1%3BVLC%3A%23663399%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3B&q=wrtlprnft&btnG=Search&cx=003169763212768703559%3Abnrl4ptylos
10:33 <Durka> it shows ur site
10:33 <Durka> maybe its on it
10:33 <wrtlprnft> i remember him putting it on
10:33 <wrtlprnft> even though it wasn't really indexed at that time
10:33 <wrtlprnft> just a few spots
10:34 <Durka> ok cool
10:34 <Durka> #help wrtls_weird_name_wtf?
10:34 <armabot> Durka: Error: There is no command "wrtlsweirdnamewtf?".
10:34 <Durka> how did u get that name?
10:34 <Durka> :p
10:34 <Durka> i think i've asked u
10:34 <Durka> *think*
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10:35 <wrtlprnft> err?
10:35 <Durka> hi z-man
10:36 <Durka> #cyborg z-man
10:36 <armabot> Durka: Z.M.A.N.: Zealous Mathematics and Assassination Neohuman
10:36 <wrtlprnft> heh, the mathematcs isn't all that wrong
10:37 <wrtlprnft> s/cs/& part/
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10:38 <Durka> what?
10:38 <Durka> #dict wrtlprnft
10:38 <armabot> Durka: No definition for "wrtlprnft" could be found.
10:38 <Durka> :(
10:38 <Durka> #dict durka
10:38 <armabot> Durka: No definition for "durka" could be found.
10:38 <Durka> #dict armabot
10:39 <armabot> Durka: No definition for "armabot" could be found.
10:39 <Durka> #dict guru
10:39 <armabot> Durka: wn, foldoc, jargon, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Guru \Gu"ru\ (g[=oo]"r[=oo]), n. Same as {gooroo}. [PJC]; wn: guru n 1: a Hindu or Buddhist religious leader and spiritual teacher 2: each of the first ten leaders of the Sikh religion 3: a recognized leader in some field or of some movement; "a guru of genomics"; jargon: guru n. [Unix] An expert. Implies not only {wizard} skill but also (5 more messages)
10:39 <Durka> 3!
10:39 <Durka> #flip
10:41 <wrtlprnft> at least now we know that guru3 is a Hindu or Buddhist religious leader and spiritual teacher
10:41 <Durka> no just guru
10:41 <Durka> guru3 is undefinded
10:41 <Durka> lets combine!
10:41 <Durka> #dict 3
10:41 <armabot> Durka: wn and gcide responded: gcide: 3 \3\ adj. 1. one more than two; denoting a quantity consisting of three items or units; -- representing the number three as an Arabic numeral. Syn: three, iii [WordNet 1.5 +PJC]; wn: 3 adj : being one more than two [syn: {three}, {iii}] n : the cardinal number that is the sum of one and one and one [syn: {three}, {III}, {trio}, {threesome}, {tierce}, {leash}, {troika}, (1 more message)
10:41 <wrtlprnft> one more than 2… wow
10:42 <Durka> "1. one more than two"
10:42 <Durka> lmao
10:42 <wrtlprnft> 3 more than 0
10:42 <Durka> o_O
10:42 <Durka> really?
10:42 <Durka> ¬_¬
10:42 <wrtlprnft> 39 less than 42
10:42 <Durka> look at the adjective
10:42 <Durka> being one more than two
10:42 <Durka> #g guru+3
10:42 <armabot> Durka: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
10:42 <Durka> Durka calculator time
10:42 <Durka> %durka guru+3
10:43 <Durka> <Durka_bot> One more than 2 hindu or buddhist religious leaders
10:44 <wrtlprnft> #dict 2
10:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wn, jargon, gcide, and foldoc responded: gcide: 2 \2\ adj. Denoting a quantity consisting of one more than one; one plus one more; -- representing the number two as an Arabic numeral. Syn: two, ii [WordNet 1.5]; wn: 2 adj : being one more than one; "he received two messages" [syn: {two}, {ii}] n : the cardinal number that is the sum of one and one or a numeral representing this number [syn: (2 more messages)
10:44 <wrtlprnft> one more than one o_O
10:44 <wrtlprnft> #dict 1
10:44 <Durka> g2g
10:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: wn and gcide responded: gcide: 1 \1\ adj. 1. used of a single unit or thing; not two or more; -- representing the number one as an Arabic numeral. Syn: one, i, ane [WordNet 1.5 +PJC]; wn: 1 adj : used of a single unit or thing; not two or more; "`ane' is Scottish" [syn: {one}, {i}, {ane}] n : the smallest whole number or a numeral representing this number; "he has the one but will need a two and (1 more message)
10:44 <wrtlprnft> cya
10:44 <Durka> bye
10:44 <Durka> #night
10:44 <armabot> Good night Durka!
10:44 -!- Durka [n=Arma90@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit ["Bye!"]
11:22 <guru3> i've so gotta stop staying up until 3 am :<
11:26 <guru3> and no spam posts on the forums today :D
11:33 <wrtlprnft> :)
11:42 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/wrtlprnft/crazy/fonttest-1.aamap.xml: Resource by wrtlprnft
11:45 <wrtlprnft> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/crazy/fonttest-1.aamap.xml
11:45 <wrtlprnft> talk about useless maps
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14:02 <notspidey> #morning
14:02 <armabot> Good Morning notspidey Random Fortune: Feel free to contact me (flames about my english and the useless of this || driver will be redirected to /dev/null, oh no, it's full...). || (Michael Beck, describing the PC-speaker sound device)
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16:31 <Arma696> hey
16:32 <Arma696> hehe someone write:      #roulette
16:32 <Arma696> #roulette
16:32 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:32  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:33 <Arma696> #roulette
16:33 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:33 <Arma696> #roulette
16:33 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:33 <Arma696> #roulette
16:33 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:33  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:33 <Arma696> #roulette
16:33 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:33 <Arma696> #roulette
16:33 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:33 <Arma696> #roulette
16:33 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:34  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:34  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:34  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:34  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:34  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:34 <Arma696> #roulette
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:34 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <Arma696> #roulette
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
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16:35 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:35  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:35 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:35  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:35  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <armabot> Arma696: *click*
16:35 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
16:35  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
16:36 <[dlh]> wow. wtf??
16:52 <notspidey> ........................
16:57 <wrtlprnft_> soam tastic
16:57 <wrtlprnft_> *spam
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17:17 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o luke-jr] by ChanServ
17:17 <@luke-jr> oh, he left
17:17 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
17:17 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o luke-jr] by luke-jr
17:23 <GodTodd> #g 16*16*10
17:23 <@armabot> GodTodd: 16 * 16 * 10 = 2,560
17:23 <GodTodd> #g 2560/12
17:23 <@armabot> GodTodd: 2,560 / 12 = 213.333333
17:23 <luke-jr> ...
17:23 <luke-jr> you had to use a calc for 16*16*10?
17:24 <GodTodd> #g 2560 cu in in cu ft
17:24 <@armabot> GodTodd: 2,560 (cu in) = 1.48148148 cu feet
17:24 <GodTodd> stfu
17:24 <luke-jr> everyone knows 16*16 (or 2^8) is 256
17:24 <luke-jr> and *10 is plain simple in decimal
17:25 <luke-jr> well, in any base
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17:26 <ghableska> #weather 50266
17:26 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 45.1°F (10:22 AM CST on December 31, 2006). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 28.63 in 969.4 hPa. 
17:32 <GodTodd> luke-jr: just do me a favor and don't pull your "i know everything and you're stupid if you don't" shit today, okay?
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17:43 <ghableska> #armaservers
17:44 <@armabot> ghableska: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (14 players) || Norm's Place (12 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (8 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (4 players) || Palatinum's Place (3 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (3 (1 more message)
17:44 <ghableska> #serverdetails sumo
17:44 <@armabot> ghableska: °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~: Players (10/12): BB  ~*FB*~ ©¨, buGzi, Fearless, Hawk, jan, Zop, ~*SP*~viper~, ¦×¥$µbz, ¦×¥Rico, °°@shitakA
17:50 <luke-jr> GodTodd: you're the one who says i know everything :0
17:51 <GodTodd> you don't have to say it to think it and give the impression that you would say it if it wouldn't bring shit down on your head
17:51 <luke-jr> I just know like a, b, and c-- not d through z :p
17:52 <GodTodd> yes...but if your knowledge of "b" is wrong, do you truly know it?
17:54 <luke-jr> but it isn't :)
17:54 <luke-jr> the only possibility is that there is something in d-z that changes what b means
17:54 <GodTodd> depends on who you ask :)
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18:21 <notspidey> ....
18:25 <GodTodd> ,,,
18:26 <[dlh]> …
18:27 <notspidey> ...
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18:34 <DrJoeTron> ...
18:34 <DrJoeTron> thats right
18:34 <luke-jr> ........
18:34 <DrJoeTron> I'm totally jumping on the "..." bandwagon
18:36 <GodTodd> cuz yer a slut, joe
18:36 <GodTodd> :P
18:37 <GodTodd> #dance
18:39 <GodTodd> #ping
18:43 <wrtlprnft_> ……………………………………
18:43 <@armabot> GodTodd does the 'I killed chat' dance.
18:43 <@armabot> pong
18:45 <wrtlprnft_> wow, armabot is really getting a bit slow
18:47 <wrtlprnft_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
18:47 <wrtlprnft_> Mem:           376        333         42          0          9         17
18:47 <wrtlprnft_> -/+ buffers/cache:        306         70
18:47 <wrtlprnft_> Swap:          643        436        206
18:47 <wrtlprnft_> x_X
18:48 <wrtlprnft_>  18:48:23 up 46 days,  4:30,  1 user,  load average: 0.31, 1.89, 2.47
18:48 <guru3> :o
18:48 <wrtlprnft_> darn
18:48 <wrtlprnft_> it was a cronjob being run at a smaller interval than its run time
18:48 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
18:54 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/Durka/rubber/ddl_team-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
19:02 <wrtlprnft> someone should tell durka that you don't have to put all settings into maps
19:11 <luke-jr> lol
19:11 <luke-jr> this was why I was opposed to map rotation
19:12 <luke-jr> should have just had a INCLUDE_NEXT_ROUND/MATCH setting and let that change MAP_FILE
19:14 <@armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/HIM/sumo/sumo-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by HIM
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19:20 -!- Arma64 is now known as Durka
19:21 <Durka> #hello
19:21 <Durka> #ping
19:21 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: Marv Albert: He's really showing us what a man with a cannon || in his chest can do.
19:21 <@armabot> pong
19:24 <wrtlprnft> 19:02 <wrtlprnft> someone should tell durka that you don't have to put all settings into maps
19:24 <Durka> lol
19:24 <Durka> there's reasons
19:24 <Durka> that i did
19:25 <Durka> :p
19:26 <Durka> #g 1+1
19:26 <@armabot> Durka: 1 + 1 = 2
19:26  * wrtlprnft wonders if he'll ever have any real use for http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/wrtlprnft/crazy/fonttest-1.aamap.xml
19:26 <wrtlprnft> it's more of a demo map
19:27 <Durka> ya i saw that on ct forums
19:27 <Durka> lmao
19:27 <Durka> poor kyle
19:27 <Durka> did u make this in inkscape?
19:28 <wrtlprnft> yeah
19:29 <wrtlprnft> the big text at the top is in the same font as armagetronad 0.3.0's text
19:29 <wrtlprnft> the default font, at least, i prefer to use bitstream vera sans / deja_vu sans
19:38 <Durka> wrtl: i played that circuit board map
19:38 <Durka> it worked
19:38 <Durka> 0-1-2 fps
19:38 <deja_vu> grrr wrtlprnft ;)
19:38 <Durka> but it worked
19:38 <Durka> :p
19:38 <deja_vu> and bye
19:38 <wrtlprnft> cya
19:39 <Durka> bye
19:39 <wrtlprnft> deja_vu: i can tab-complete deja_vu, but not DejaVu :P
19:39 <wrtlprnft> Durka: need to wait a couple of years to have computers that are powerful enough so you can play that map…
19:39 <wrtlprnft> that map and tronsector
19:41 <Durka> lol
19:41 <Durka> that tron sector map is...
19:41 <Durka> it crashed arma
19:41 <Durka> :(
19:42 <wrtlprnft> and i spent so much time to position all the spawn points in evil spots!
19:42 <Durka> roflmao
19:42 <Durka> you evil person wrtl :(
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19:55 <Durka> ?
19:56 <wrtlprnft> i finally restarted her
19:56 <wrtlprnft> after 6.5 weeks uptime
19:57 <wrtlprnft> she was eating more than 500 MB of memory on a machine with ~360MB ram
19:57 <guru3> lol
19:57 <Durka> lol
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19:58  * wrtlprnft has yet to see a python script that doesn't leak memory
19:58 <Durka> lol
19:59 <Durka> #armaservers
19:59 <armabot> Durka: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (11 players) || Norm's Place (10 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (8 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (6 players) || Strawberry Fields (6 players) || Shrunkland in 2.8.2 (5 players) || ~>PuRe<~ Clan Server Puregamers.tt.cx (5 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬ *Teams!* (4 players) || G-Land (A Swamplords server) (3 players) || Legendary High Rubber (1 more message)
19:59 <Durka> #serverdetails d u r k a
19:59 <armabot> Durka: ¬| D u r k a  D u r k a  L a n d | ¬*Teams!*: Players (10/14): >|TC{~ $(Orch, Bodrick, Dal, DevilMillus ITA, ithalo SK9, sAsKe, Select, Unable To Join, [TBC] Jammy.mp3, |OAK|GOD
20:00 <Durka> ?
20:00 <Durka> it just said above 4 players
20:00 <Durka> now it says 10
20:00 <Durka> BUG!
20:00 <Durka> or is rss feed for the servers not updated as frequently?
20:01 <Durka> that must be it
20:01 <wrtlprnft> the armaservers feed is updated every 5 or 10 minutes, dunno exactly
20:02 <Durka> o
20:02 <wrtlprnft> the other server related feeds are updated every minute
20:02 <Durka> #help serverdetails
20:02 <armabot> Durka: (serverdetails <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
20:02 <Durka> o deferent feeds
20:02 <Durka> gotchha
20:02 <wrtlprnft> the armaservers one belongs to guru3 (hi there :D)
20:03 <guru3> is it
20:03 <guru3> i thought you ditched it ages ago ><
20:03 <Durka> lol
20:03  * wrtlprnft likes annoying people with Lucifer_arma (¡¡hi there!!)'s “hi there”s
20:03 <Durka> what about nemo's one
20:04 <Durka> nvr mind thats not an rss feed
20:04 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i stopped using your xml feed as it was constantly invalid
20:04 <guru3> haha
20:04 <wrtlprnft> Durka: nemo's page requests my xml feed and only parses it
20:04 <guru3> yeah i don't mix well with xml
20:04 <guru3> but then which one are you using? ><
20:04 <wrtlprnft> so it's basically http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors with some nice formatting
20:04 <wrtlprnft> i have my own :)
20:05 <guru3> i'm confuzed
20:05 <wrtlprnft> #help armaservers
20:05 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (armaservers [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armaservers at the RSS feed <http://electricpotential.net/serverrss.php>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
20:05 <guru3> #armaservers
20:05 <armabot> guru3: ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬ *Teams!* (10 players) || Norm's Place (7 players) || -=}ID< Immortal Dynasty Server (5 players) || MicroBusCity.com (3 players) || ~>PuRe<~ Clan Server Puregamers.tt.cx (3 players) || ~|DS|~DarkSyndicate's Arena {100MBit} (2 players) || Tigers Network Classic Play (1 players) || Chico's Brake Boost Styball (0 players) || PIXELPARTY VOICECHAT (0 players) || Wild West =Sumo= (0 (1 more message)
20:05 <wrtlprnft> armabot's using that feed just for the #armaservers command
20:05 <wrtlprnft> my own data for everything else
20:06 <guru3> so you're still using something i wrote?
20:06 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:06 <wrtlprnft> because it works :)
20:06 <guru3> i'm amazed
20:07 <guru3> i thought i was the only one using it for the forums
20:07 <guru3> (by the way does anyone even read that bit of the index page?)
20:08 <wrtlprnft> i sometimes glance at it
20:08 <Durka> at the bottom? :p
20:08 <guru3> "Players Online Tron Servers:"
20:08 <wrtlprnft> and if i see a nice server full of nice people i join it
20:08 <Durka> how do i put that in my forum?
20:09 <guru3> well i modified the template
20:09 <guru3> and the footer php
20:09 <Durka> well of course
20:09  * notspidey yawns
20:09 <guru3> to call a script that produces that off of my server
20:09 -!- notspidey is now known as spidey
20:09 <Durka> u did the index one
20:09 <Durka> i wanna do the overall_footer.tpl
20:09 <Durka> what's the code u added in?
20:09 <guru3> that's what i changed...
20:10 <Durka> ?
20:10 <Durka> didnt u change index_body.tpl
20:10 <guru3> i changed overall_footer.tpl
20:10 <Durka> not the footer?
20:10 <guru3> well
20:10 <Durka> that wouldnt make sense
20:10 <guru3> can't quite remember anymore
20:10 <Durka> that would mean that at the bottom of everypage on the forum
20:10 <Durka> u would see that thing
20:10  * Durka just wants to know the code u added :p
20:11 <guru3> ive got to find it first
20:11 <guru3> i made those changes months ago
20:11 <Durka> lol k
20:11 <Durka> thnx
20:12 <Durka> hi spidey :p
20:12 <spidey> >.>
20:13 <Durka> lol
20:13 <wrtlprnft> Durka: note that guru3 has a cronjob running. for you it would probably be easiest to fetch and parse http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
20:13 <wrtlprnft> #g php xml parser howto
20:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
20:13 <wrtlprnft> #google php xml parser howto
20:13 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Search took 0.11 seconds: PHPBuilder.com, the best resource for PHP tutorials, templates ...: <http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/joe20000907.php3>; PHP : Parse Yahoo! Web Service REST Calls - Yahoo! Developer Network: <http://developer.yahoo.com/php/howto-parseRestPhp.html>; PHP Bugs: #32245: xml_parser_free() in a function assigned to the ...: <http://bugs.php.net/32245>; PHP Bugs: #37440: Problem (2 more messages)
20:14 <guru3> wrtlprnft: the forums fetch from my server @ home
20:14 <guru3> just i think it fetches on every single page
20:14 <guru3> not just the index one ><
20:14 <Durka> i should use the non-stipped colors one
20:14 <Durka> lmao
20:14 <Durka> all the server names would be fucked :p
20:15 <guru3> yeah haha
20:15 <guru3> i could've saved myself TONS of bandwith ><
20:15 <guru3> because it's fetching the servers
20:15 <guru3> even when it doesn't have to
20:15 <wrtlprnft> i'm providing the nonstripped version so you can parse the colors if you want
20:15 <guru3> so those 55000 calls of the script this month
20:15 <guru3> that's one for every single page view on the forums ><
20:15 <guru3> so incidently
20:16 <guru3> we're getting a fuck off load of page views
20:16 <guru3> and it's almost 60MB ><
20:16 <Durka> lol
20:16 <guru3> wonder if i can gzip it
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20:17 <wrtlprnft> wb spidey
20:17 <root_> ty
20:17 <Durka> turn on gzip compression
20:17 -!- root_ is now known as spidey
20:17 <spidey> formating >.>
20:17 <wrtlprnft> i love how people run an irc client as root
20:17 <guru3> Durka: it's not that simple for your own code
20:17 <spidey> me to
20:17 <wrtlprnft> it's quite easy actually
20:17 <wrtlprnft> sec
20:18 <Durka> lol
20:18 <Durka> woah i just saw Zop
20:19 <Durka> #lastseen Zop
20:19 <armabot> Durka: Zop has last been seen on °¯ps Arena  ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ 0 days 2 hours 15 minutes ago.
20:19 <Durka> hmm like 1 second ago
20:19 <spidey> brb
20:19 <Durka> k
20:20 <guru3> so yeah for the moment
20:20 <guru3> no one go to the forums index page
20:20 <wrtlprnft> ok
20:20 <guru3> because well
20:20 <guru3> you'll wind up with a lot of gz text
20:20 <guru3> ARGHHHHH
20:21 <guru3> no gzuncompress function
20:21 <Durka> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: gzuncompress() in /wwwroot/armagetronforums/includes/page_header.php on line 278
20:21 <Durka> :p
20:21 <guru3> fuckers
20:25 <guru3> guess no compression\
20:28 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/servertest.php
20:28 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/servertest.phps
20:28 <wrtlprnft> it's that easy
20:28 <wrtlprnft> i'll leave it to you to figure out how to integrate it
20:29 <guru3> http://electricpotential.net/serverforum.php
20:29 <guru3> that's what i use
20:29 <guru3> i've just been side tracked trying to get it to fetch only for index.php
20:30 <wrtlprnft> that's a boring way to do it :s
20:31 <wrtlprnft> the xml feed makes it possible to display more, like the number of players on a server
20:32 <guru3> i can
20:32 <guru3> i access the db directly :P
20:33 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:33 <guru3> think i solved the calling my server too much problem at least
20:33 <wrtlprnft> but i just said that that file is probably a bit too unflexible for Durka 
20:34 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6627 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
20:34 <armabot> armagetronad: properly checking for libpng-config and some other cleanups. CXXFLAGS and
20:34 <armabot> armagetronad: CPPFLAGS are kept separate.
20:34 <guru3> meh
20:39 <Durka> ok so ya what do i do
20:40 <Durka> :p
20:40 <Durka> i havent been paying attention
20:40 <guru3> you wave your magic wand
20:40  * Durka waves it
20:40 <Durka> nothing happened
20:40 <guru3> buahaha
20:40 <guru3> but now i have you waving your wand
20:41 <Durka> lol
20:42  * Durka stops waving it
20:42 <spidey> o.O
20:43  * spidey has these weird blinking colored charactors on his screen
20:44 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/servertest.php
20:44 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/servertest.phps
20:44 <wrtlprnft> Durka: one's the result, the other the code
20:45 <Durka> so what do i do????? :)
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20:45 <wrtlprnft> err, you edit some file in your phpbb installation :P
20:45 <ghableska> hello
20:45 <wrtlprnft> hi
20:46 <Durka> do i just put a table at the bottom
20:46 <Durka> and put the src to fetch for that file
20:46 <wrtlprnft> eek, tables
20:46 <wrtlprnft> yeah
20:47 <Durka> k
20:48 <wrtlprnft> don't fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/servertest.php, though
20:49 <guru3> why's it showing everyone twice?
20:49 <wrtlprnft> duh
20:49 <wrtlprnft> fixed
20:50 <wrtlprnft> (note that the code is really ugly programming practice, but it works
20:50 <Durka> wrtl: what do i fethc
20:51 <wrtlprnft> you take the code in the phps file
20:51 <wrtlprnft> and put it where you want it to be
20:51 <guru3> http://electricpotential.net/serverforum.php
20:51 <guru3> ^^
20:52 <wrtlprnft> he still won't know where to include it, probably :s
20:52 <spidey> what's he doing?
20:52 <wrtlprnft> trying to get a list of servers and online players on his forums
20:53 <spidey> his server or all servers?
20:53 <wrtlprnft> all
20:53 <spidey> that's not hard
20:53 <spidey> even i did that :D
20:53 <wrtlprnft> there's more than enough server feeds out there
20:54 <Durka> :(
20:54 <Durka> but i want the servertest.php one
20:54 <wrtlprnft> mine, guru3's, iF's, and the one on beta.aa.net, though that's realtime and very slow
20:54 <spidey> whyy not use the one on the wiki??
20:54 <spidey> or is it on the forums..
20:54 <Durka> looks cooler and isnt alphabeticl
20:54 <wrtlprnft> Durka: then use it
20:54 <guru3> all depends on how much bandwith you want to spend
20:54 <Durka> :)
20:54 <Durka> A LOT!
20:54 <Durka> whcih one uses more?
20:54 <spidey> do you have alot? :p
20:54 <wrtlprnft> on the ct forums it's in index.php
20:55 <wrtlprnft> mine uses more as it fetches all servers and all sorts of additional information
20:55 <wrtlprnft> look at the source code of http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverxml.php?stripcolors
20:56 <Durka> thats fine
20:56 <spidey> how much bandwith do you have?
20:56 <spidey> bandwidth*
20:57 <wrtlprnft> #g (700 / 8) kb/s in gb/month
20:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
20:57 <wrtlprnft> #g (700 / 8) KB/s in gb/month
20:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
20:57 <wrtlprnft> #g (700 / 8) KB/s in GB/month
20:57 <armabot> wrtlprnft: (700 / 8) * (KB / s) = 219.442926 GB / month
20:57 <wrtlprnft> in theory.
20:58 <spidey> ...
20:58 <spidey> #g 700/8
20:58 <armabot> spidey: 700 / 8 = 87.5
20:58 <spidey> #g 87.5 KB/s in GB/month
20:58 <armabot> spidey: 87.5 (KB / s) = 219.442926 GB / month
20:58 <spidey> xD
20:58  * spidey is bored ;x
20:59 <spidey> i want my windows back! :(
20:59 <guru3> DIE YE EVIL WINDOWS BASTARDS
20:59 <guru3> i mean
20:59 <guru3> hope it works again spidey 
20:59  * wrtlprnft agrees w/ guru3 
20:59 <wrtlprnft> err, not anymore
20:59 <spidey>  23:32:32 up 9 days, 22:37,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
20:59 <spidey> 2 users? o.O
20:59 <wrtlprnft>  21:00:08 up 46 days,  6:41,  1 user,  load average: 0.14, 0.12, 0.10
20:59 <wrtlprnft>  21:00:47 up 46 days, 22:19,  7 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
20:59 <wrtlprnft>  21:00:26 up 37 days,  7:49,  0 users,  load average: 0.24, 0.32, 0.27
20:59 <guru3> OS: Linux 2.6.11-gentoo-r4/i686 - CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Xeon(TM) (2399.979 MHz) - Processes: 597 - Uptime: 60d 11h 58m - Load Average: 3.32 - Memory Usage: 776.54MB/2025.51MB (38.34%)
21:00 <spidey> Linux version 2.6.8-3-386 (pbuilder@dl360-g3) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 Thu Sep 7 05:39:52 UTC 2006
21:00 <wrtlprnft>  20:00:46 up 12 days, 14:08,  2 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.03, 0.00
21:00 <wrtlprnft> now tell me which is which :)
21:00 <guru3> sounds like too much work
21:00 <guru3> im just wondering
21:00 <guru3> why the hell i have almost 600 processes
21:00 <spidey> rofl!
21:01 <wrtlprnft> some cronned script that doesn't die?
21:01 <guru3> yeah
21:01 <guru3> the master server query script
21:01 <guru3> that powers #armaservers aparently
21:01 <guru3> isn't dieing
21:01 <spidey> #armaservers?
21:01 <spidey> o.O
21:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah, mine isn't dieing (?!) sometimes, either
21:01 <spidey> wrtlprnft: how do i switch between channels in irssi?
21:01 <wrtlprnft> alt-numbers
21:02 <guru3> OS: Linux 2.6.11-gentoo-r4/i686 - CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Xeon(TM) (2399.979 MHz) - Processes: 147 - Uptime: 60d 12h  - Load Average: 3.29 - Memory Usage: 510.98MB/2025.51MB (25.23%)
21:02 <guru3> that's better
21:02 <wrtlprnft> and the top row of the letters if you hame more numbers
21:02  * wrtlprnft is at 12 windows atm…
21:02 <spidey> noone in #armaservers o.o
21:02 <wrtlprnft> #armaservers
21:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (12 players) || ~"XzL.Clan The Server (8 players) || Norm's Place (8 players) || Swampland in 2.7.1 (6 players) || LoBo'S Habitat (5 players) || °¯ps Arena ~~~ Team Sumo ~~~ (5 players) || Strawberry Fields (5 players) || ~>PuRe<~ Clan Server Puregamers.tt.cx SUMO (4 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬ *Teams!* (4 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (3 players) (1 more message)
21:02 <wrtlprnft> #onlineplayers
21:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 31 seconds old; $*$Rashed$*$, (Moo)crazyninja, ., .dBd|AI|Rariki, .dBd|Bomb Dc~, .dBd|DaRk DåU, 0xfff000Yellow, ={S}=Dracula, Aaron, AKA(*)Anonymous, Akus, Arc, buGzi, Cake attack, Canteloupe, CrAySuPeRcOm, CTxroot, CTxWargasm, Dream, Gen. Eisenhower, Genki, giga, Goodygumdrops, Hab|Dc~, Integer, inverted jenny, José, KadrüH, kristof, Lex, löcutus, Matt, mikey, mo, Morpheus, N33D13, (1 more message)
21:02 <spidey> oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh
21:02 <spidey> i knew that ;x
21:02 <wrtlprnft> #onlineplayers -v
21:02 <armabot> wrtlprnft: This data is 37 seconds old; $*$Rashed$*$, (Moo)crazyninja, ., .dBd|AI|Rariki, .dBd|Bomb Dc~, .dBd|DaRk DåU, 0xfff000Yellow, ={S}=Dracula, Aaron, AKA(*)Anonymous, Akus, Arc, buGzi, Cake attack, Canteloupe, CrAySuPeRcOm, CTxroot, CTxWargasm, Dream, Gen. Eisenhower, Genki, giga, Goodygumdrops, Hab|Dc~, Integer, inverted jenny, José, KadrüH, kristof, Lex, löcutus, Matt, mikey, mo, Morpheus, N33D13, (1 more message)
21:03 <guru3> what is it
21:03 <guru3> spam it up day >L<
21:03 <spidey> ?
21:03 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:03 <guru3> leeeeeettttttttttt's spam, spam, SPAM IT UP
21:03 <guru3> BUAHAHAHA
21:03 <wrtlprnft> err, if you don't kick me?
21:03 <guru3> IM RUNNING AROUND IN CIRCLES
21:03 <guru3> LIKE A CHICKEN
21:03 <guru3> WITH ITS HEAD CUT OFF
21:03  * guru3 clucks
21:03 <wrtlprnft> /exec -o yes 'haha! SPAM!'
21:04 <guru3> SPLAY
21:04 <guru3> SPLAT
21:04 <guru3> i hit a wall
21:04 <wrtlprnft> #weather south pole
21:04 <wrtlprnft> #weather north pole
21:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "south pole".
21:04 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "north pole".
21:04 <guru3> #weather to be or not to be
21:04 <wrtlprnft> rainy
21:04 <spidey> #cnn north pole
21:04 <armabot> guru3: Error: Could not retrieve weather for "to be or not to be".
21:04 <armabot> spidey: Error: No such location could be found.
21:05 <spidey> wrtlprnft: you leave mbc?
21:05 <Durka> #roulette
21:05 <wrtlprnft> too lazy to write a post atm
21:05 <spidey> man, this monitor is like a foot and a half above my head
21:05 <armabot> Durka: *click*
21:05  * spidey neck hurts :(
21:06 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
21:06 <Durka> #seen iceman
21:06 <@armabot> Durka: I have not seen iceman.
21:06 <spidey> #roulette
21:06 <@armabot> spidey: *click*
21:06 <Durka> #roulette
21:06 <@armabot> Durka: *click*
21:06 <Durka> :p
21:06 <Durka> ur turn spidey
21:06 <spidey> #roulette
21:06 -!- spidey was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
21:06  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
21:06 <Durka> lmao
21:06 -!- spidey [n=root@68-119-125-27.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
21:06  * wrtlprnft wonders if he should have armabot issue a ban instead
21:06 <Durka> ahahhahahaha
21:07 <Durka> #roulette spin
21:07 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
21:07 <Durka> #roulette
21:07  * spidey has a dynamic ip when he wants it :p
21:07 <@armabot> Durka: *click*
21:07 <Durka> lol
21:07 <Durka> ur turn spidey :p
21:07 <spidey> #roulette
21:07 <@armabot> spidey: *click*
21:07 <Durka> #roulette
21:07 <@armabot> Durka: *click*
21:07 <wrtlprnft> 1:2 chance now
21:08 <Durka> lol
21:08 <Durka> really?
21:08 <Durka> ;P
21:08 <wrtlprnft> yeah
21:08 <spidey> your turn wrtl :p
21:08 <wrtlprnft> nah
21:08 <Durka> go wrtl!
21:08 <Durka> do it!
21:08  * Durka pokes guru3 (ur turn!)
21:08 <wrtlprnft> #roulete
21:08 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: *click*
21:08 <Durka> lol
21:09 <Durka> ?
21:09 <spidey> your turn durka :p
21:09 <Durka> u spelled it diferently
21:09 <Durka> #roulette
21:09 <@armabot> Durka: *click*
21:09 <Durka> :p
21:09 <wrtlprnft> 1:1 now
21:09 <Durka> go spidey!
21:09 <spidey> #roulette
21:09 <@armabot> spidey: *click*
21:09 <Durka> lol
21:09 <Durka> uh-oh wrtl
21:09 <wrtlprnft> next one should be a kick
21:09 <Durka> lol
21:09 <Durka> go wrtl!
21:09 <Durka> -.-
21:10 <spidey> well durka, wrtl's afk so it's your turn again
21:10 <wrtlprnft> yeah, /me is afk
21:10 -!- Durka is now known as notDurka
21:10 <notDurka> durka's not here
21:10 <notDurka> ur turn spidey
21:10 -!- notDurka is now known as Durka
21:10 -!- spidey is now known as SpideyWho
21:11 -!- Nixda625 [n=55e926f0@h10487.serverkompetenz.net] has joined #armagetron
21:11 <Durka> hi nixda
21:11 <Nixda625> #roulette
21:11 -!- Nixda625 was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
21:11 <Durka> type #roulette
21:11  * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
21:11 <SpideyWho> wrtl lol
21:11 <Durka> lol was that u wrtl
21:11 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:11 <SpideyWho> what's the link to that javaclient?
21:11 <SpideyWho> :D
21:11 <wrtlprnft> http://armagetron.nixda.net/cgi-bin/irc.cgi
21:11 <wrtlprnft> though that's not java
21:11 <Durka> http://durdur.freehostia.com/irc/arma-irc.html
21:12 <Durka> ^^
21:12 <SpideyWho> durdur?
21:12 <SpideyWho> wtf?
21:12 <Durka> dur minus the ka
21:12 <wrtlprnft> durdurmohj
21:12 <Durka> lmao
21:12 <SpideyWho> well dur doesn't have ka anyways :p
21:12 <wrtlprnft> though i still don't know what it means :P
21:12 <Durka> on freehostia it takes the first 3 letts of ur First name and last name
21:12 <Durka> i put Durka for both
21:12 <Durka> :p
21:13 <Durka> so it made it durdur
21:13 <wrtlprnft> so, what does ddmj mean?
21:13 <Durka> if i put john doe
21:13 <Durka> it would be johdoe
21:13 <Durka> ddmj?
21:13 <Durka> well when i first registered on the forums i...
21:13 <SpideyWho> how about spipns deylol
21:13 <SpideyWho> xD
21:13 <Durka> GOT NO FUCKING VERIFICATION EMAIL!!!!!!!
21:13 <wrtlprnft> and the spelled-out version
21:13 <Durka> so i had to make another one
21:13 <ghableska> wrtlpwned
21:13 <wrtlprnft> |me|
21:13 <SpideyWho> lool
21:13 <Durka> wrtlpwnd |me|
21:14 <Durka> lol
21:14 <ghableska> hah
21:14 <Durka> #lastseen wrtlpwnd
21:14 <SpideyWho> |test|
21:14 <SpideyWho> hmm
21:14  * Durka pokes ghab
21:14 <SpideyWho> why do i see it has 2 lines?
21:14 <@armabot> Durka: wrtlpwnd |me| has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 days 22 hours 55 minutes ago.
21:14 <Durka> XD
21:14 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v SpideyWho] by ChanServ
21:15 <+SpideyWho> ..
21:15 <ghableska> O_o
21:15 <ghableska> #whoami
21:15 <@armabot> ghableska: I don't recognize you.
21:15 -!- SpideyWho is now known as spidey
21:15 <Durka> #lastseen fuck
21:15 <@armabot> Durka: Owczar FUCK has last been seen on Fortress Café 0 days 22 hours 12 minutes ago.
21:15 <wrtlprnft> her memory has faded since i restarted her
21:15 <Durka> no not that person
21:15 <Durka> #lastseen fuck_
21:15 <@armabot> Durka: achtung fucking has last been seen on ~"XzL.Clan The Server 3 days 3 hours 51 minutes ago.
21:15 <+spidey> #whoami
21:15 <@armabot> spidey: spidey
21:15 <Durka> lmao
21:16 <Durka> #whoami
21:16 <wrtlprnft> #whoami
21:16 <@armabot> Durka: I don't recognize you.
21:16 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: I don't recognize you.
21:16 <Durka> lol
21:16 <Durka> #lastseen fuck_u_
21:16 <wrtlprnft> #capabilities
21:16 <+spidey> ??
21:16 <+spidey> #ping
21:16 <@armabot> pong
21:17 <Durka> #pong
21:17 <@armabot> Durka: timed out
21:17 <wrtlprnft> lol!
21:17 <Durka> #lastseen fuck_u_
21:17 <@armabot> Durka: fuck_u_irc_ppl seems to be on Stormcrow's Tower right now.
21:17 -!- Durka [n=Arma64@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
21:17 <wrtlprnft> wtf
21:17 <+spidey> ?"
21:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [+v spidey] by ChanServ
21:18 -!- mode/#armagetron [-v spidey] by ChanServ
21:18 -!- Arma38 [n=Arma38@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
21:18 <Arma38> safari shut down :(
21:18 <spidey> i have windows back :D
21:18 -!- Arma38 is now known as Durka
21:18 <Durka> #lastseen fuck_u_
21:18 <@armabot> Durka: fuck_u_irc_ppl has last been seen on Stormcrow's Tower 1 minutes ago.
21:18 <[dlh]> Durka: get a real IRC client ><
21:18  * wrtlprnft looks for a big stone to throw at spidey's windows
21:19 <Durka> i actually do have one
21:19 <wrtlprnft> then throw it, hard
21:19 <Durka> but the one on my mac sux
21:19 <Durka> ill use it
21:19 <Durka> brb
21:19 -!- Durka [n=Arma38@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
21:19 <wrtlprnft> oh, lol
21:19 <wrtlprnft> irc client, not stone :x
21:21  * ghableska would like a mac
21:21 -!- spidey is now known as spideylog
21:21 <wrtlprnft> me too
21:21 <wrtlprnft> as long as it runs linux
21:22 <[dlh]> oh $deity…
21:22 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:23 <[dlh]> people talking about OS preferences are lame, sorry. :)
21:23 <wrtlprnft> :P
21:23 <wrtlprnft> i don't mind maxos, though
21:24 <wrtlprnft> *macos
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21:26 <Durka> happy?
21:26 <wrtlprnft> :)
21:26 <Durka> brb actually
21:26 -!- Durka [n=Justin@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit]
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21:27 <Durka> ook hi again
21:27 <Durka> #hello
21:27 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: "In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, || men were real men, women were real women, and small furry || creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry || creatures from Alpha Centauri. "
21:27 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:28 <Durka> lol
21:28 <Durka> [:) 
21:28 <ghableska> haha
21:28  * ghableska loves that book
21:33 <Durka> #ping
21:33 <@armabot> pong
21:36 -!- Durka [n=Justin@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit []
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21:37 <Durka> #hello (again)
21:37 <@armabot> Hello Durka :) Random Fortune: "You're very sure of your facts, " he said at last, "I || couldn't trust the thinking of a man who takes the Universe || - if there is one - for granted. "
21:39 -!- spidey [i=spidey@68-119-125-27.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #armagetron
21:39 <spidey> weee
21:40 <spidey> finally 
21:40 <spidey> a "legit" install with a kinda-real cd :D
21:48 <Durka> WRTL!!!!!!!
21:49 <Durka> i dont think im going thtis right
21:49 <Durka> how do i fetch that thing AND MAKE IT OUTPUT!!!!
21:50 <spidey> fetch what?
21:50 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:51 <wrtlprnft> i guess you don't actually know anything about php?
21:52 <spidey> what's he talking about??
21:52 -!- DrJoeTron [n=DrJoeTr0@adsl-76-215-5-168.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron
21:52 <ghableska> hi DrJoeTron
21:52 <DrJoeTron> yo yo
21:53 <spidey> joe
21:53 <spidey> i love you
21:53 <spidey> not
21:54 <DrJoeTron> not jokes
21:54 <DrJoeTron> priceless
21:54 <Durka> i no very little :p
21:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6628 /private/z-man/clio/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
21:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: r1034@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-30 20:22:42 +0100
21:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: Made multiuinit test work. Price: unknown classes can no longer be just
21:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: passed through Io. There is no way to make that work without risking
21:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: interesting bugs when compilation units fight in the linking stage who knows
21:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: best how template functions have to be instantiated.
21:54 <spidey> http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/gse/
21:55 <spidey> i want it
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6629 /private/z-man/clio/ (. dataconversion_extended.cpp):
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: r1035@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-30 21:26:37 +0100
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: Fixed ordering.
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6630 /private/z-man/clio/ (. classname.cpp classname.hpp macros.hpp templatearglist.hpp):
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: r1036@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-31 01:12:09 +0100
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: Fixed linker errors in optimized mode
21:55 <ghableska> #weather 50266
21:55 <@armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 34.5°F (2:52 PM CST on December 31, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 28.63 in 969.4 hPa. 
21:55 <Durka> lol
21:55 <spidey> #weather 38256
21:55 <@armabot> spidey: The current temperature in Paris, Tennessee is 61.0°F (2:55 PM CST on December 31, 2006). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa. 
21:55 <Durka> ur zip code changed
21:55 <DrJoeTron> ghableska 
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6631 /private/z-man/clio/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: r1037@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-31 19:39:48 +0100
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: testing new template instantiation
21:55 <ghableska> what?
21:55 <DrJoeTron> why don't you just go outside :p
21:55 <Durka> #weather 90049
21:55 <@armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Santa Monica, California is 57.2°F (11:51 AM PST on December 31, 2006). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa. 
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r6632 /private/z-man/clio/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: r1038@gonzo: manuel | 2006-12-31 21:53:09 +0100
21:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: Restored old test code.
21:55 <Durka> thats not santa monica wtf
21:55 <ghableska> I need to know the exact pressure
21:55 <ghableska> or else...
21:55 <Durka> :(
21:56 <z-man> you explode?
21:56 <DrJoeTron> I explode :/
21:56 <Durka> hi zman?
21:56 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60056
21:56 <ghableska> yes, exactly
21:56 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Mount Prospect, IL is 52.0°F. Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 100%. Wind: S at 11 mph (18 km/h).
21:56 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60016
21:56 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is 54.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Wind: S at 13 mph (21 km/h).
21:56  * ghableska just saw Serenity
21:56 <Durka> didnt mean to put ? lol
21:56 <guru3> argh i'm stuffed
21:56 <DrJoeTron> #cnn 60018
21:56 <@armabot> DrJoeTron: The current temperature in Des Plaines, IL is 54.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Wind: S at 13 mph (21 km/h).
21:56 <Durka> #cnn 90049
21:56 <guru3> 5 rouladdin and 3 plates of rice
21:56 <@armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Santa Monica, CA is 58.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 57%. Wind: N at 4 mph (6 km/h).
21:56 <Durka> wow thats lame
21:56 <Durka> not sm'
21:56 <DrJoeTron> ghableska whatcha think?
21:57 <Durka> #g 1+1
21:57 <@armabot> Durka: 1 + 1 = 2
21:57 <Durka> o_O
21:57 <ghableska> of what?
21:57 <ghableska> the movie?
21:57 <ghableska> it was pretty good
21:57 <Durka> casino royale was good
21:57 <ghableska> I liked it better than star wars
21:57 <DrJoeTron> I loved serenity
21:57 <ghableska> the dialogue didn't make me wince
21:57 <DrJoeTron> and firefly in general
21:58 <DrJoeTron> you need to watch that
21:58 <ghableska> are you a browncoat? :P
21:58 <Durka> so wrtlpwnd can u help me?
21:58  * ghableska is reminded of something he made a long time ago
21:58 <ghableska> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/32723431/?qo=22&q=by%3Aghableska&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps
21:59 <DrJoeTron> haha
21:59 <DrJoeTron> firefly was amazing
21:59 <DrJoeTron> :D
21:59 <wrtlprnft> aaah
21:59 <wrtlprnft> dinner for one is the the same fun every year :)
21:59 <Durka> Fukutu!
22:00 <Durka> the dude from casino royale
22:00 <Durka> http://www.thumbplay.com/join/Casino-Royale--Fukutu-wallpaper-bonus
22:00 <ghableska> my favorite scene was the intro 
22:00 <wrtlprnft> Durka: no, i can't really help you if you don't know anything
22:02 <DrJoeTron> kjick him!
22:02 <wrtlprnft> i don't really know what to do
22:02 <wrtlprnft> #kick Durka "spammer"
22:02 -!- Durka was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [spammer]
22:03 <ghableska> DrJoeTron: think I should watch the tv series?
22:03 <guru3> armabot has op? Oo
22:03 <wrtlprnft> uh, Lucifer_arma tends to give her op status
22:03 <ghableska> guru3: jealous, aren't you? ;)
22:03 <wrtlprnft> presumably for #roulette
22:03 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o armabot] by ChanServ
22:03 <ghableska> #roulette
22:03 <armabot> ghableska: *click*
22:03 <ghableska> aww
22:04 <DrJoeTron> ghableska you must watch the series
22:04 <ghableska> ok
22:04 -!- Durka [n=Justin@cpe-76-167-238-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
22:04 <Durka> meh
22:04 <wrtlprnft> hem
22:05 <DrJoeTron> ehm
22:05 <wrtlprnft> meh?
22:05 <Durka> ¿hem
22:05 <wrtlprnft> oh, duh, we already had meh… mhe!
22:07 <Durka> lol
22:07 <guru3> emh
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22:08 <Durka> lol
22:09 <Durka> tank can u help me? :p
22:09 <guru3> does it involve me doing any work?
22:09 <ghableska> hmm, it's snowing o0
22:10 <Durka> no
22:10 <Durka> yes
22:10 <Durka> idk
22:10 <Durka> ;)
22:10 <guru3> don't ask to ask for help
22:10 <guru3> it's stupid
22:11 <Durka> lol
22:11 <DrJoeTron> kick!
22:11  * spidey kicks DrJoeTron 
22:11 <DrJoeTron> the foot ball!
22:11 <spidey> happy now?
22:11 <DrJoeTron> buh dump bump
22:14 <Durka> lol
22:18  * Durka /me
22:19 -!- wejp_ is now known as wejp
22:19  * Lucifer_arma is fucking sick
22:19  * DrJoeTron has been borderlining sick for a month
22:21  * Lucifer_arma is very sick
22:21 <Lucifer_arma> chills and everything, puked my guts out last night
22:23 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@65.167.130.12] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:23 <Durka> #sick
22:24 <wrtlprnft> aww
22:24 <wrtlprnft> bad way to begin the new year :(
22:24 <Durka> not me
22:24 <Durka> jusut luci
22:24 <wrtlprnft> just 1:35 hours here btw
22:24 <wrtlprnft> i don't mean you :P
22:28  * Durka sees joe
22:30 <ghableska> #weather 50266
22:30 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 32.7°F (3:27 PM CST on December 31, 2006). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 28.65 in 970.1 hPa. 
22:30 <ghableska> ...
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22:38 <wrtlprnft> o_O
22:38 <wrtlprnft> the new year hasn't even begun and i already hear firefighters
22:38 <ghableska> haha
22:40 <Durka> lol
22:42 <wrtlprnft> people going crazy with fireworks
22:42 <wrtlprnft> people who can't even wait x_X
22:42  * wrtlprnft is looking at the nine big rockets he's gonna fire :)
22:43 <ghableska> heh
22:44 <wrtlprnft> the f****!
22:44 <wrtlprnft> some idiot almost hit my window with a rocket!
22:45 <ghableska> shoot one at him!
22:45 <wrtlprnft> i don't want to burn my ceiling
22:45 <wrtlprnft> 4th floor
22:46 <wrtlprnft> lucky new years isn't during summer, because then my window might have been open
22:55 <Durka> lmao
23:06 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
23:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 25°F / -4°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.29in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM AST; Tonight - Clear. Low minus 14.; Monday - Becoming cloudy. Snow or ice pellets beginning in the morning changing to rain in the afternoon. Risk of freezing rain late in the morning and in the afternoon. Snow and ice pellet amount 2 cm. (1 more message)
23:06 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:06 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 31.5°F (4:02 PM CST on December 31, 2006). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 28.67 in 970.8 hPa. 
23:06 <luke-jr> anyone here messed w/ Sphinx3?
23:06 <Vanhayes> #more
23:06 <armabot> Vanhayes: Wind south 20 km/h gusting to 40. High plus 2. Monday night..rain ending near midnight then cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. Amount 5 mm. Wind south 20 km/h gusting to 40 becoming northwest 20 overnight. Temperature rising to plus 5 by morning.; Tuesday - Cloudy. High plus 4.;
23:06 <Vanhayes> going to be a chilly new years tonight
23:09 <wrtlprnft> not here
23:09 <luke-jr> not in FL either
23:09 <luke-jr> ;p
23:09 <luke-jr> nor TX prolly
23:10 <luke-jr> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with cnn
23:10 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1755 messages.
23:10 <luke-jr> #last --from Lucifer_arma --with weather
23:10 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1759 messages.
23:10 <luke-jr> poj
23:10 <Vanhayes> #last --from ghableska --with cnn
23:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1763 messages.
23:10 <Vanhayes> #last --from ghableska --with #cnn
23:10 <armabot> Vanhayes: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1766 messages.
23:11 <ghableska> ...?
23:11 <Vanhayes> guess it doesnt keep track of # messages
23:11 <ghableska> #cnn 50266
23:11 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, IA is 39.0°F. Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Wind: WNW at 18 mph (29 km/h).
23:22 <Durka> #cnn 90049
23:22 -!- [NP]Tangent [n=hyperdev@65.167.130.12] has joined #armagetron
23:22 <armabot> Durka: The current temperature in Santa Monica, CA is 58.0°F. Conditions: Sunny. Humidity: 57%. Wind: N at 4 mph (6 km/h).
23:22 <Durka> #last --from ghableska --with 50266
23:22 <armabot> Durka: [23:11:17] <ghableska> #cnn 50266
23:22 <Durka> booyah
23:24 <ghableska> wrtlprnft: fireworks still going strong?
23:24 <wrtlprnft> sort of
23:24 <wrtlprnft> gonna be out there in half an hour :P
23:25 <luke-jr> b2f|80.e|f2|f <-- date & time
23:28 <wrtlprnft> #time
23:28 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 11:28 PM, December 31, 2006
23:31 <Durka> #time
23:31 <armabot> Durka: 11:31 PM, December 31, 2006
23:31 <Durka> 2:31 pm
23:37 <Vanhayes> west coast?
23:37 <wrtlprnft> #time
23:37 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 11:37 PM, December 31, 2006
23:37 <wrtlprnft> bbl
23:42 <Durka> ya
23:42 <Durka> los angeles
23:46 <luke-jr> /join #freenode-newyears
23:49 -!- Durka is now known as nothuman
23:49 <guru3> awwwww SHITE
23:50 <guru3> my laptop just crashed
23:50 <ghableska> :/
23:50 -!- nothuman is now known as Durka
23:50 <Durka> meh
23:50 <guru3> ever since i upgraded gentoo it's gone to hell
23:50 <Durka> lol
23:51 <guru3> should probably just reinstall
23:52 <luke-jr> lol
23:52 <luke-jr> that's pointless
23:52 <luke-jr> like recompiling everything will change anything
23:53 <guru3> yeah but i'd feel better doing a reinstall
23:53 <luke-jr> ...
23:53 <guru3> than an emerge -e world
23:53 <guru3> which is what i did last time
23:53 <luke-jr> emerge -e world is better
23:53 <luke-jr> if you really want to...
23:54 <luke-jr> svn up -r 4 /etc
23:54 <luke-jr> CONFIG_PROTECT=-* emerge -e world
23:54 <luke-jr> or better yet
23:54 <luke-jr> skip the svn part
23:55 <luke-jr> and just wipe unowned /etc files after it's done
23:57 <guru3> mmm
23:57 <guru3> how can i get my x to accept tcp connections
23:59 <luke-jr> remove -notcp from X options
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23:59 <armabot> armagetronad:  * resources/bell/multizone/fourteam-1.1.aamap.xml: Resource by bell
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