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00:22 <epsy_afk> darn teabot
00:22 <epsy_afk> um, happy new year
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00:23 <Your_mom_arma> guru3: ping
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00:41 <smoothice> Your_mom_arma: If you want to use a bot try armabot, smoothbot, or ljrbot.
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00:49 <Your_mom_arma> huh? ... no I'm pinging guru 3 to see if he's available to talk
00:49 <Your_mom_arma> well, chat
00:49 <Your_mom_arma> z-man: ping
00:50 <z-man> pong
00:50 <Your_mom_arma> you think tank programs a user?
00:50 * z-man notes it's 10 minutes to the new year here and his wife has just been put into hospital with a broken lower leg
00:50 <z-man> a user?
00:51 <Your_mom_arma> sorry, what happened?
00:51 <z-man> nothing much more than what I told you :)
00:51 <z-man> wife fell, broke her foot/lower leg, was brought to the hospital.
00:52 <Your_mom_arma> what an unlucky start to the new year
00:52 <z-man> she'll be in there when our return flight should be, so I'm a bit rotating trying to figure out how to change the flight :)
00:53 <Your_mom_arma> good luck with that, hope she has a speedy recovery
00:55 <smoothice> z-man: ping
01:00 <smoothice> &ping
01:00 <smoothbot> pong
01:01 <PinkTomato> aw
01:01 <PinkTomato> i missed the leap second
01:04 <smoothice> PinkTomato: You're getting a surge of people on your Fortress server
01:05 <smoothice> PinkTomato: 6, but all at once :D
01:19 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I saved it off on that turn, so we can resume it sometime
01:19 <Lucifer> z-man: just give her a new flight to Texas so we can commiserate, heh
01:19 <Lucifer> her broken leg, and my fever :(
01:25 <smoothice> Has anyone developed an AI that can play sumo?
01:29 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I'm on top in Sumo: http://www.grabup.com/uploads/0b6ac373614227ab68e7c0b346d6f95b.png?direct
01:30 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Never thought _that_ would happen lol.
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01:46 <smoothice> luke-jr: for your webhosting do you use apache or lighttpd?
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01:56 <z-man> Lucifer: nice try :) But forget it. She's mine. MINE ALONE. MWAHAHAHAHA!
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01:57 <Your_mom_arma> z-man isn't a swinger
01:57 <Lucifer> z-man: maybe you can send one of her lisbion friends instead, then, eh?
01:57 <z-man> Maybe.
01:59 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8716 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: Removing tags before pushing to svn. bzr-svn doesn't like tags. Plus, test commit for this functionality :)
01:59 <Lucifer> bzr pull lp:~davefancella/+junk/eugenics-dev
02:00 <Lucifer> er, I should put that in the #eugenics topics
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02:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: Apache
02:44 <smoothice> luke-jr: If a customer wanted lightttpd would you oblige?
02:45 <luke-jr> smoothice: I don't see the point..
02:45 <luke-jr> what does lighttpd do that apache doesn't?
02:45 <smoothice> luke-jr: It's faster?
02:45 <PinkTomato> it's not faster, just lighter
02:46 <smoothice> Isn't faster lighter?
02:46 <luke-jr> no.
02:46 <luke-jr> lighter can be simply less features, not less bloat
02:46 <PinkTomato> In fact it could mean slower,
02:46 <luke-jr> Apache is pretty good
02:47 <PinkTomato> yeah, if you have the resources, use apache :)
02:48 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: he's talking about running lighttpd for him, even tho I already run Apache for my other sites
02:48 <PinkTomato> ah so you would use the same process
02:49 <luke-jr> well, it means I'd be running both Apache *and* lighttpd
02:49 <luke-jr> which seems silly
02:49 <PinkTomato> yes it does :)
02:49 <smoothice> lol
02:49 <luke-jr> smoothice: do you plan to use PHP?
02:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: yeah
02:50 <luke-jr> even if lighttpd is slightly faster than Apache, PHP will easily make that difference irrelevant
02:50 <smoothice> ok
02:50 <luke-jr> especially since PHP is faster with Apache
02:50 <luke-jr> (mod_php vs CGI)
02:51 <smoothice> luke-jr: If you charged $30 or more a month for apache,svn,1-2 arma servers and I could get a VPS for $20 a month... what's the justification?
02:51 <smoothice> For your services
02:52 <Lucifer> when something breaks, you yell at luke?
02:52 <smoothice> Is that fun?
02:52 <Lucifer> if something breaks on your VPS, you're the one who gets yelled at :)
02:52 <Lucifer> yes, it is fun
02:52 <smoothice> lol
02:52 <luke-jr> I'm not sure a $20 VPS can pull all that off too well, in the first place. ;)
02:52 <Lucifer> indeed, a VPS is an entire OS running in a virtual machine
02:52 <luke-jr> and as Lucifer said, big difference between unmanaged and managed
02:52 <smoothice> ok
02:53 <smoothice> Drop the arma servers..
02:53 <smoothice> You'd probably charge around $20 for that then right?
02:53 <smoothice> for lets say
02:53 <luke-jr> depending on bandwidth, I suppose
02:53 <smoothice> 60GB storage
02:53 <luke-jr> :O
02:53 <smoothice> lol
02:54 <PinkTomato> what you need 60GB for!?
02:54 <smoothice> meh
02:54 <smoothice> bragging purposes?
02:54 <smoothice> :P
02:54 <luke-jr> that's more than half my CT dedi's disk
02:54 <luke-jr> 2/3 of the free space XD
02:55 <smoothice> I don't know.. just trying to justify your services vs. VPS vs. my own services
02:55 <luke-jr> smoothice: to rephrase managed vs unmanaged, notice that if you have a problem with some service on your cheapvps, it's $75/hr ;)
02:55 <smoothice> luke-jr: Or you could just reinstall the vm...
02:56 <smoothice> luke-jr: and start over for free
02:56 <luke-jr> smoothice: if you don't mind the downtiem and data loss
02:56 <smoothice> luke-jr: you make backups?
02:56 <luke-jr> smoothice: not regularly
02:56 <smoothice> luke-jr: You get lucky?
02:57 <luke-jr> varies from each week to every few months
02:57 <luke-jr> mainly when stuff changes a lot ☺
02:57 <luke-jr> most of the time, the only changes are Arma logs
02:58 <PinkTomato> arma log files are huge
02:58 <Corn> omg i just looked up the armagetron facebook group and it has 214 hahaha
02:58 <luke-jr> Corn: yep
02:58 <luke-jr> Corn: this is the group that decided girls should not play Armagetron
02:58 <PinkTomato> I'm not there :)
02:58 <Corn> yeah you told me that
02:58 <Corn> more girls play then i though... they probably all suck though
02:59 <Corn> thought&
02:59 <Corn> *
02:59 <Corn> its still fucking hilarious though
03:00 <Corn> Discussion Board > Girls should not play armegetron!!!
03:00 <Corn> ah haha
03:02 <Corn> "There are many things said on armegetron that are completely disgusting, there r also many mean and harsh things said, most boys no this is all a joke, but some girls think we are serious..."
03:02 <PinkTomato> learn to spell
03:02 <PinkTomato> that person should
03:03 <smoothice> luke-jr: the thing is.. I can run this many arma servers on my own time:
03:03 <smoothice> &smoothservers
03:03 <smoothbot> smoothice: Dog Fight: Online --- Sumo: Online --- Capture the Flag Shooting: Offline --- Hold the Flag: Offline --- Styball: Offline
03:03 <Corn> "Man to put it simple, bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks. you can quote me on that too." lmfao
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03:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: with good pings and all full?
03:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: nah... I can only run two at once with 130 pings if all full :P
03:07 <luke-jr> :þ
03:07 <smoothice> luke-jr: lol
03:07 <luke-jr> 130 pings is like Europe players on my Connecticut server
03:08 <luke-jr> whereas closer players have got as low as 20-30
03:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: yeah.. I have pretty good pings to the Dallas center in the US
03:08 <smoothice> well
03:08 <smoothice> 60-70 is good for me...
03:08 <luke-jr> ping lightfoot-ct.dashjr.org
03:09 <smoothice> average: 106 ms
03:09 <luke-jr> O.o
03:09 <Corn> Taz joined the facebook group? lol
03:10 <smoothice> Average to PinkTomato's VPS: 65 ms
03:10 <luke-jr> smoothice: you're where again?
03:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: midwest US
03:10 <luke-jr> that's odd
03:10 <smoothice> west midwest
03:10 <smoothice> coloado
03:10 <smoothice> colorado
03:10 <smoothice> :D
03:10 <luke-jr> I'm in Omaha
03:10 <luke-jr> 76ms avg
03:10 <smoothice> :/
03:10 <smoothice> I'll try again
03:10 <luke-jr> got mtr?
03:10 <smoothice> mtr?
03:11 <luke-jr> traceroute+ping
03:11 <luke-jr> it shows *where* the latency is coming from
03:11 <smoothice> oh
03:11 <smoothice> no
03:11 <smoothice> I don't
03:11 <smoothice> try pinging smootharma.homelinux.com
03:11 <smoothice> and tell me your averages
03:11 <luke-jr> from home or lightfoot? :þ
03:11 <smoothice> both
03:12 <luke-jr> from home, I get 98ms average
03:12 <luke-jr> 11ms jump leaving Cox's network
03:12 <smoothice> ok
03:12 <luke-jr> 13ms jump on Level3
03:12 <luke-jr> 20ms jump entering Qwest's network
03:12 <smoothice> yikes
03:12 <smoothice> yeah
03:12 <luke-jr> 43ms jump on the last hop
03:13 <luke-jr> (quest->you probably)
03:13 <smoothice> Yep
03:13 <PinkTomato> Probably all that copper
03:13 <luke-jr> ok, now from lightfoot-ct:
03:13 <smoothice> ?
03:13 <smoothice> ok
03:13 <luke-jr> avg 106ms ☹
03:13 <luke-jr> 5ms until it gets to Qwest :/
03:13 <luke-jr> 1. 65.18.192.2 0.0% 33 1.2 18.3 0.9 212.8 39.9
03:13 <luke-jr> 2. 69.94.1.66 0.0% 32 0.7 0.3 0.3 0.7 0.1
03:14 <luke-jr> 3. POS2-1.GW4.NYC8.ALTER.NET 0.0% 32 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.2 0.1
03:14 <luke-jr> 4. 0.so-1-2-2.XT1.NYC8.ALTER.NET 0.0% 32 3.2 5.1 3.2 54.2 9.1
03:14 <luke-jr> 5. 0.so-6-0-0.XL3.NYC4.ALTER.NET 0.0% 32 3.9 4.7 3.8 27.0 4.1
03:14 <luke-jr> 6. 0.ge-5-0-0.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET 0.0% 32 3.9 4.7 3.8 31.0 4.8
03:14 <luke-jr> 7. nyc-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net 0.0% 37 4.0 4.0 3.9 4.2 0.1
03:14 <luke-jr> 8. ewr-core-02.inet.qwest.net 0.0% 45 4.8 5.0 4.8 14.6 1.5
03:14 <luke-jr> 9. hlrn-agw1.inet.qwest.net 16.3% 44 63.2 64.0 62.9 77.4 3.4
03:14 <luke-jr> 10. hlrn-dsl-gw32-250.hlrn.qwest.net 0.0% 44 61.3 64.3 61.1 121.9 9.9
03:14 <luke-jr> 11. 71-218-48-17.hlrn.qwest.net 0.0% 44 107.6 106.7 105.4 109.1 0.6
03:14 <luke-jr> Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
03:14 * luke-jr makes note to never get Qwest.
03:14 <smoothice> lol
03:14 <smoothice> What's your ISP?
03:15 <luke-jr> at home, Cox
03:15 <smoothice> Cable?
03:15 <luke-jr> yes
03:15 <smoothice> yeah
03:15 <smoothice> I'm on DSL
03:15 <smoothice> Poor latency
03:15 <smoothice> but
03:15 <smoothice> good speed
03:15 <smoothice> ~10 megabits
03:15 <luke-jr> pfft
03:15 <luke-jr> I get 12 mbits
03:15 <smoothice> good for you
03:15 <smoothice> lol
03:15 <PinkTomato> pfft, I want my uncle's internet
03:15 <PinkTomato> 100Mbit
03:16 <smoothice> Cable here is COmcast
03:16 <smoothice> Which we all know is crud
03:16 <luke-jr> Comcast is fail
03:16 <smoothice> yeah
03:16 <smoothice> exactly
03:16 <luke-jr> I miss Time Warner.
03:17 <PinkTomato> smoothice: 68ms average from Texas
03:17 <smoothice> PinkTomato: yeah...
03:17 <PinkTomato> well
03:17 <PinkTomato> its odd
03:17 <smoothice> ???
03:17 <PinkTomato> pings are usually higher than average for my server
03:17 <luke-jr> lol
03:17 <PinkTomato> about 9-11ms
03:18 <smoothice> wait.. you're saying 68 is low?
03:18 <smoothice> luke-jr: pings to UK
03:18 <smoothice> 64 bytes from 85.234.147.28: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=182.610 ms
03:18 <smoothice> rather high
03:18 <PinkTomato> No relatively
03:18 <PinkTomato> compared to lightfoot
03:18 <PinkTomato> i get better pings to lightfoot
03:18 <PinkTomato> than texas
03:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: lightfoot-ct gets ~77ms pings to UK
03:19 <smoothice> PinkTomato: that's expected since you're in EU
03:19 <PinkTomato> Oh, is it east coast?
03:19 <smoothice> ct = connecticut
03:20 <luke-jr> lulz
03:20 <PinkTomato> no idea where that is....
03:20 <luke-jr> yes, east coast
03:20 <PinkTomato> ah right :)
03:20 <luke-jr> that's odd, better pings to Europe than to Qwest Colorado
03:20 <smoothice> *sigh*
03:20 <smoothice> lol
03:20 <luke-jr> smoothice: move somewhere sane XD
03:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: >.<
03:21 <smoothice> PinkTomato: pings to your local IP are
03:21 <smoothice> 64 bytes from 90.201.235.59: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=226.565 ms
03:21 <smoothice> highly high
03:21 <smoothice> lol
03:21 <PinkTomato> hehe, it would be higher
03:21 <PinkTomato> i used to have 100ms pings to europe
03:21 <PinkTomato> till I moaned at the ISP
03:22 <smoothice> they capped?
03:23 <PinkTomato> Oh I think it was the way they had the connection set up. Things like Fastpath and Interleaved or something
03:24 <smoothice> I have to go..
03:24 <smoothice> later
03:24 <PinkTomato> yeah me too night
03:24 <PinkTomato> :)
03:24 <smoothice> :)
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03:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8718 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. MacOS/rakelib/config.rake MacOS/rakelib/xcode.rake): Daniel Lee Harple: Moved TAG_MAPPINGS to AA::Xcode
03:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8719 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Daniel Lee Harple: Merge because rebase was throwing exceptions.
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04:38 <Corn> What is the explosion radius on Cafe? 4 or 2?
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05:01 <Lucifer> luke-jr: you have a bot in #freeciv
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05:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: do I?
05:16 <Lucifer> ljrbot is yours, right?
05:16 * ljrbot agrees 100%
05:16 <luke-jr> indeed
05:16 <luke-jr> he does seem to be there
05:16 <luke-jr> good to know
05:17 <smoothbot> /me notes that I'm a bot too..
05:17 <luke-jr> Lucifer: did you have a point, btw? ;)
05:18 <Lucifer> just in case you forgot about it and didn't want it there?
05:19 <luke-jr> ok, thanks for letting me know ;)
05:19 * luke-jr couldn't care less unless someone complains
05:19 <smoothice> luke-jr: Where is ljrbot hosted?
05:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: your home computer? I cannot imagine you'd use lightfoot
05:26 <luke-jr> smoothice: home server
05:26 <smoothice> ah
05:26 <smoothice> cool
05:26 <luke-jr> dual CPU 500 MHz
05:26 <luke-jr> :þ
05:26 <smoothice> So you have three servers?
05:26 <luke-jr> PowerEdge 6400
05:26 <luke-jr> well, 4 if you count the home one XD
05:37 <smoothice> 3 outside of home?
05:44 <luke-jr> yes
05:53 <smoothice> Uk, CT and?
06:00 <luke-jr> UK, CT, and TX
06:01 <luke-jr> Happy feast of the circumcision!
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06:08 <Lucifer> an hour away from 2009 :/
06:11 <smoothice> two hours here :/
06:40 <Lucifer> hmmm, now I'm back to that question again
06:40 <Lucifer> do I write my own packet generator script that reads freeciv's packets.def and outputs my own code
06:40 <Lucifer> do I modify theirs to output my own code (in which case they've got all the parsing done for me)
06:40 <Lucifer> or
06:40 <Lucifer> do I hand-code all the packets myself?
06:41 * Lucifer is currently leaning towards writing his own from scratch
06:43 <Lucifer> hmm, an alternative is to use freeciv's unmodified, and give it my own headers that are unbuckled from freeciv source
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07:20 <luke-jr> Lucifer: what happened to Eugenics?
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07:54 <hang3r> Well the inbreeding failed and they all ate each other.
07:57 <luke-jr> …
08:22 <Lucifer> heh
08:22 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it's still in the works, really
08:22 <Lucifer> I started over in c++ with the intention of using freeciv as the game engine
08:22 <Lucifer> so where I'm at right now, it *can* connect to the server, but can't exchange any messages with it yet
08:23 <Lucifer> because I need to be able to create and interpret freeciv packets
08:24 <Lucifer> hence my earlier choice, which I haven't made yet
08:28 <Lucifer> the #eugenics channel has in the topic where to get the code from if you want to fool with it
08:34 <luke-jr> hm
08:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: any idea why my speakers sound like crap these days?
08:34 <Lucifer> it's the music you listen to :)
08:35 <Lucifer> did you blow them?
08:36 <luke-jr> dunno?
08:36 <luke-jr> I can still hear
08:36 <luke-jr> it just sounds crappy
08:37 <luke-jr> like it's distorted, but it's not that loud
08:37 <luke-jr> both sides
08:38 <luke-jr> oh well ☹
08:38 <Lucifer> hmmm, that sounds like they're blown
08:38 <luke-jr> how to fix?
08:38 <Lucifer> that or you've changed something, like sound card, and it's outputting at too high of a level for the speakers to handle
08:39 <Lucifer> the fix to blown computer speakers is to buy new ones :)
08:39 <luke-jr> ☹
08:39 <Lucifer> are we talking little computer speakers, or big stereo speakers?
08:39 <luke-jr> there's a difference?
08:39 <Lucifer> well, yeah, heh
08:39 <luke-jr> there's 3 pieces
08:39 <Lucifer> computer speakers are little things that go on the desk, big stereo speakers are large and generally go on the floor, stand waistt high (or so)
08:40 <luke-jr> oh
08:40 <luke-jr> small
08:40 <Lucifer> yeah, get new ones then, sorry
08:40 <luke-jr> can't just resolder something?
08:40 <Lucifer> but it might be worth trying to determine if it really is the speakers
08:40 <luke-jr> :x
08:40 <Lucifer> blown speakers mean the cone itself is broken, usually split from the voice coil
08:40 <luke-jr> can't replace onboard sound card
08:41 <Lucifer> hence the distorted sound, the range of motion has decreased
08:41 <luke-jr> better be the speakers
08:41 <luke-jr> cone?
08:41 <Lucifer> you might crack them open and see if the cone has broken, and try masking tape
08:41 <Lucifer> yeah, there's a little paper cone in there that wiggles back and forth
08:41 <Lucifer> see, when a speaker blows, that means it's received a signal of higher amplitude than it's capable of tolerating
08:42 <Lucifer> so something in the mechanical part has to break, because the electrical part can usually tolerate it
08:42 <Lucifer> you'd rather have it that way than having the electrical part start a fire because you turned the volume up too loud :)
08:42 <Lucifer> the weakest mechanical part is the paper cone, particularly where it connects to the voice coil
08:43 <Lucifer> the voice coil is in the back, and it's basically just a magnet that translates the incoming electrical signal into mechanical motion
08:43 <luke-jr> I feel like an idiot for taking apart my alarm clock when I need to be up in 7 hrs
08:43 <Lucifer> er, put it back together and go to bed?
08:43 <Lucifer> speakers that sound like crap can still wake you up, right?
08:44 <luke-jr> yeah, but..
08:44 <luke-jr> gr
08:44 <luke-jr> stupid idiots glued the wire in place
08:46 <luke-jr> well, I see the speaker piece itself now
08:46 <luke-jr> no obvious physical damage
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08:47 <Lucifer> probably outta put it back together then, but before you do, take a look around the inside of the case and make sure there aren't any holes or cracks that shouldn't be there
08:48 <Lucifer> and that any holes that should be there are clear of obstructions :)
08:48 <luke-jr> yep, everything looks good
08:49 <Lucifer> pay close attention to the seal between the speakker and the case when you put it back
08:49 <Lucifer> that's another place air could leak, and if it were leaking there before, you want to fix it
08:49 <Lucifer> if it were not leaking there before, you don't want to cause it to leak now
08:50 <Lucifer> the only other thing I know of that could cause it to distort is actual electrical distortion, but I don't have any idea how to make that ahppen with a computer
08:50 <Lucifer> er, what I mean is, if it were working before, and it doesn't work now, I don't have any idea what could have happened to cause that
08:51 <Lucifer> unless it's really a software problem
08:51 <Lucifer> do you have like an mp3 player or something you can plug the speakers into to see if they sound good using a different source than your computer?
08:51 <luke-jr> not really
08:51 <Lucifer> hmmm, if it's a software problem, you don't want to buy new speakers and see them suffer too
08:52 <luke-jr> I'm not sure if it's just started happening, or if I just started getting pissed at it
08:52 <Lucifer> ok, what I want is a script that reads packets.def and outputs serialize/unserialize functions and structs
08:53 <Lucifer> heh
08:53 <Lucifer> get into a local freecycling group and get some different speakers :)
08:53 <Lucifer> you're in/near a good sized city now, right?
08:54 <luke-jr> yeah
08:54 <Lucifer> http://www.freecycle.org <--- to see if there's such a group near you. It's free stuff!
08:56 <luke-jr> speakers builtin to monitor sounding like crap too
08:57 <luke-jr> sigh
08:59 <Lucifer> as long as they wake you up....
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09:14 <hang3r> luke-jr: boot off of a livecd like ubuntu or knoppix and see if it sounds normal, that way you can rule out a software issue
10:29 <hang3r> http://digg.com/people/Should_I_Pop_It
10:29 <hang3r> funniest thing on digg in quite some time
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10:58 <P4> Laddies and Gentlemen… Happy Better New Year 2009.
10:59 <MrBougo> laddies?
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16:00 <Lucifer> anybody up for some python scripting? :)
16:00 <Lucifer> I want a script that takes freeciv's packets.def file and outputs struct definitions, and serialize/unserialize functions for each type
16:00 <Lucifer> in a way that doesn't depend on any freeciv headers, or any headers within my own project
16:05 <BabyBug> O.o
16:06 <Lucifer> BabyBug: that sounds like exactly the kind of thing you'd like to do!
16:07 <BabyBug> Lucifer...Python Scripting: \o/ .... I didn't understand a word after that =P
16:09 <Lizmatic> oh god.. NERD TALK! NERD TALK!
16:10 * BabyBug distracts Lizmatic with more pixx
16:11 <Lizmatic> :Ojisdgklmg?11!1
16:11 * Lizmatic is distracted
16:12 <BabyBug> ;)
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17:52 <BabyBug> #tea
17:52 <@armabot> BabyBug: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br (2 more messages)
17:52 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft fails
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17:55 <ct|kyle> .tea
17:55 <tronner> ct|kyle: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: (2 more messages)
17:55 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It's broken?
17:55 <ct|kyle> .si fortess caf
17:55 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “fortess caf” at the moment, sorry.
17:56 <ct|kyle> .help tea
17:56 <tronner> ct|kyle: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serv @1 Fortress Café".
17:56 <ct|kyle> .si Fortress Café
17:56 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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18:01 <K-Yo> #si café
18:01 <@armabot> K-Yo: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Too many connections in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>3</b><br />\n<br (2 more messages)
18:01 <K-Yo> .si café
18:02 <tronner> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
18:02 <smoothice> .si CTF
18:02 <tronner> smoothice: Wild West =CTF Shooting= ~Multi~Mode~: Players (1/10): hwy
18:02 <smoothice> .si CTF Shooting
18:02 <tronner> smoothice: Wild West =CTF Shooting= ~Multi~Mode~: Players (1/10): hwy
18:06 <ivantis2> .si space-lab
18:06 <tronner> ivantis2: SPACE-LAB Shooting!: Players (0/8):
18:07 <smoothice> .si Racing II
18:07 <tronner> smoothice: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II: Players (8/14): -»|Xyrøn, ARabidSquirrel, Bloody_Soska, datswutshesid, missiööö, SmOoThice~NW, Taranis (Taranis@forums), _Plant_
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18:09 <ivantis2> missiööö? interesting name
18:10 <ivantis2> aaa! no more bots
18:10 <ivantis2> make it leave!
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18:20 <guru3> mysql> delete from wp_comments where comment_content like '%viagra%';
18:20 <guru3> Query OK, 1550 rows affected (10.81 sec)
18:20 <guru3> go figure
18:23 <smoothice> lol
18:23 <guru3> that's out of... 29000 comments :/
18:23 <smoothice> haha
18:24 <smoothice> 3%
18:24 <smoothice> about
18:24 <guru3> teach me to let a blog go so long :/
18:24 <smoothice> &smoothservers
18:24 <smoothbot> smoothice: Dog Fight: Online --- Sumo: Online --- Capture the Flag Shooting: Offline --- Hold the Flag: Offline --- Styball: Offline
18:27 <K-Yo> haha guru3
18:29 <guru3> so far i've found one valid comment
18:29 <K-Yo> one?
18:29 <K-Yo> in your 29000 ?
18:29 <K-Yo> whoa
18:29 <guru3> yeah
18:31 <K-Yo> isn't there some stuff to prevent spam? askimet or smthing like that, no?
18:32 <guru3> yeah
18:32 <guru3> i never got around to installing it though
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18:36 <Lizmatic> K-Ho
18:37 <BabyBug> HEY!! That's mine!!
18:38 <Lizmatic> Oh yeah, it's so clever
18:38 <Lizmatic> xD
18:39 <BabyBug> bitch
18:39 <BabyBug> :P
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18:50 <smoothice> .si Enhanced DF
18:50 <tronner> smoothice: smooth's network - enhanced DF [Loose]: Players (2/12): M&C, SmOoThice~NW
19:00 <smoothice> .si smooth sumo
19:00 <tronner> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “smooth sumo” at the moment, sorry.
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19:46 <Corn> good afternoon
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19:50 <PinkTomato> hello Corn :)
19:50 <Corn> #message DDJM Hey durka can you email me my password on the clan website to the email thats registered there? I tried the "I forgot my password" and while it told me it sent me my password i never recieved it.
19:51 <Corn> Hello pink
19:51 <P4> #wtf is message
19:52 <P4> .wtf is wtf
19:52 <tronner> P4: WTF: {what,when,where,who,why} the fuck
19:52 <P4> .part
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19:53 <Corn> P4 is that your bot? or someone elses.
19:53 <P4> mine
19:53 <P4> hosted in poland ;)
19:53 <Corn> k
19:53 <Corn> python?
19:53 <P4> yes, it's supybot like most of bots here
19:54 <Corn> #notes
19:54 <@armabot> Corn: I currently have notes waiting for $MrBougo, $randomnick, *mougo*, <<sh1n>>, <sh1n>, cid_06, ct¦kyle, dBd|nano, Durka,, eddie, epsy:, espy, everyone, G5_Ger, guru, how, I, kyle, later, MaZuffeR, monkey, Nickserv, noob7_away, operserv, philippec, ratchet, ratchet-, rickyross, royale, sebol, sithy, someone, somody, sunnygirl, unknown, voodoo, wrtlpwnft, xs20, [dlh], and aa_voodoo.
19:55 <Corn> #message Durka Hey durka can you email me my password on the clan website to the email thats registered there? I tried the "I forgot my password" and while it told me it sent me my password i never recieved it.
19:55 <Corn> damn durka and his multiple names
19:56 <MrBougo> Corn, hotmail.com?
19:56 <MrBougo> look in the junk mail :/
19:56 <Corn> aim
19:56 <Corn> it may be a problem with aim but without account access i cant change my email on the forums
19:56 <Corn> :/
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19:57 <Corn> i will change it in the future though, yahoo seems more reliable from personal experience
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20:21 <wrtlprnft> #tea
20:21 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): apparition (apparition@forums), Ctt_Desolate (Desolate@forums), CTT_speed, cT¤K-Yo, gnek, joke, TrT~CRaZy B3eR, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~ Judders, ¦×¦ viper
20:21 <wrtlprnft> so it stopped crashing?
20:22 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, for the moment, yes
20:22 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, I'll tell you if I see a crash
20:28 <MrBougo> does yahoo also put ads at the bottom of every mail you send?
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20:29 <smoothice> Corn: smoothbot works while tronner is gone
20:48 <P4> tronner is gone when armabot is up
20:50 <akira_arma> .tea
20:50 <akira_arma> #tea
20:50 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (14/32): 1200, apparition (apparition@forums), Ctt_Desolate (Desolate@forums), CTT_speed, CtxWoned (owned@forums), cT¤K-Yo, Goliath, juice keeper, TrT~CRaZy B3eR, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5, ~|TS| LáB|3³, ¦×¦ viper
20:51 <akira_arma> O.o
20:53 <K-Yo> .tea
20:53 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, just crashed...
20:53 <K-Yo> #tea
20:53 <@armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): 1200, akira, apparition (apparition@forums), Ctt_Desolate (Desolate@forums), CTT_speed, CtxWoned (owned@forums), cT¤K-Yo, Goliath, juice keeper, TrT~CRaZy B3eR, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5, ~|TS| LáB|3³, ¦×¦ viper
20:53 <K-Yo> #tea
20:53 <@armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): 1200, akira, apparition (apparition@forums), Ctt_Desolate (Desolate@forums), CTT_speed, CtxWoned (owned@forums), cT¤K-Yo, Goliath, juice keeper, TrT~CRaZy B3eR, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5, ~|TS| LáB|3³, ¦×¦ viper
20:53 <K-Yo> .tea
20:53 <K-Yo> #tea
20:53 <@armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (15/32): 1200, akira, apparition (apparition@forums), Ctt_Desolate (Desolate@forums), CTT_speed, CtxWoned (owned@forums), cT¤K-Yo, Goliath, juice keeper, TrT~CRaZy B3eR, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~ Judders, ~|DS|~G5, ~|TS| LáB|3³, ¦×¦ viper
20:54 <K-Yo> #tea
20:54 <@armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): 1200, akira, CTT_speed, CtxWoned, cT¤K-Yo, Llewellyen, Player 1 (Desolate@forums), TrT~CRaZy B3eR, ~|DS|~ Judders
20:55 <smoothice> Anyone here have a VPS/
20:59 <smoothice> P4: tronner is gone while armabot is up?
21:08 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, second crash
21:08 <K-Yo> smoothice, I kinda got one
21:08 <akira_arma> whats the prob with cafe?
21:10 <K-Yo> akira_arma, dunno
21:10 <K-Yo> tand wrtl doesn't either
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21:11 <bammes> hi
21:13 <K-Yo> hi bammes
21:14 <bammes> what is wrong if .configure fails with this fatal error?
21:14 <bammes> configure: error: Fatal error: the libxml2 configuration script xml2-config does not work/exist.
21:14 <K-Yo> u got libxml2 installed?
21:15 <bammes> i did
21:15 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:15 <K-Yo> then you'll have to wait for someone with more skills the me...
21:16 <bammes> apt-get install libxml2-dev fixed it o0
21:16 <bammes> did not know, that it required the dev-files
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21:20 <TaZ_> happy new year
21:20 <bammes> u2
21:20 <TaZ_> hey bammes?
21:21 <bammes> hey TaZ_ ?
21:22 <TaZ_> bammes: oO
21:23 <bammes> :D
21:23 <TaZ_> Are you greenmonster?
21:23 <bammes> no
21:23 <bammes> i am bammes
21:23 <TaZ_> ok
21:23 <bammes> K-Yo: thanks for help
21:23 <TaZ_> you know homor?
21:23 <bammes> no
21:23 <TaZ_> hamar*
21:23 <TaZ_> o
21:24 <TaZ_> Is luke-jr still alive?
21:24 <K-Yo> bammes, haha, np xD
21:25 <bammes> K-Yo: maybe someone can add this in your wiki as requirement?
21:27 <K-Yo> bammes, heh, where?
21:28 <K-Yo> bammes, actually, I almost never touch the wiki
21:29 <bammes> k
21:29 <bammes> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Sty
21:29 <K-Yo> TaZ_, #last
21:29 <K-Yo> #last --from=luke-jr
21:29 <@armabot> K-Yo: [08:57:07] <luke-jr> sigh
21:29 <K-Yo> TaZ_, he is alive :)
21:29 <TaZ_> aww
21:29 <P4> #last --with pass
21:29 <@armabot> P4: [19:55:21] <Corn> #message Durka Hey durka can you email me my password on the clan website to the email thats registered there? I tried the "I forgot my password" and while it told me it sent me my password i never recieved it.
21:29 <P4> #last --with pass --nolimit
21:29 <TaZ_> I mean, that's great
21:29 <P4> :D
21:30 <@armabot> P4: [21:29:42] <P4> #last --with pass, [19:55:21] <Corn> #message Durka Hey durka can you email me my password on the clan website to the email thats registered there? I tried the "I forgot my password" and while it told me it sent me my password i never recieved it., [19:50:22] <Corn> #message DDJM Hey durka can you email me my password on the clan website to the email thats registered there? I (3 more messages)
21:30 <K-Yo> bammes, this is sty, libxml2 is required for arma aswell
21:30 <K-Yo> I dunno if there's a place for how to compile under linux
21:30 <K-Yo> bammes, but ed made the list on the forums, let me find it
21:35 <smoothice> K-Yo: Who hosts it?
21:36 <K-Yo> smoothice, sol, or PTA, depends, I have access to several
21:36 <smoothice> K-Yo: can we talk in #smoothice ?
21:37 <smoothice> I've been polling people on their VPS hosts and what they like bout them
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21:56 <smoothice> #later tell wrtlprnft... K-Yo referred me to you to inquire about the VPS hosting company you use... hope you can explain that to me... Thanks.
21:56 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
21:57 <smoothice> #help later
21:57 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "later".
21:57 <K-Yo> #help later tell
21:57 <@armabot> K-Yo: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
21:57 <smoothice> #list
21:57 <@armabot> smoothice: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
21:57 <K-Yo> smoothice, it won't work, you typed "wrtlprnft..." you should type "wrtlprnft ..."
21:58 <K-Yo> #list later
21:58 <@armabot> K-Yo: notes and tell
21:58 <K-Yo> #help later notes
21:58 <@armabot> K-Yo: (later notes [<nick>]) -- If <nick> is given, replies with what notes are waiting on <nick>, otherwise, replies with the nicks that have notes waiting for them.
21:58 <smoothice> >.<
21:58 <smoothice> lol
21:58 <smoothice> ok
21:58 <K-Yo> #later notes wrtlprnft
21:58 <@armabot> K-Yo: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
21:58 <K-Yo> #later notes wrtlprnft...
21:58 <@armabot> K-Yo: Sent 1 minute ago: <smoothice> K-Yo referred me to you to inquire about the VPS hosting company you use... hope you can explain that to me... Thanks.
21:58 <smoothice> #later tell wrtlprnft K-Yo referred me to you to inquire about the VPS hosting company you use... hope you can explain that to me... Thanks.
21:58 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
21:58 <K-Yo> smoothice, ^^
21:58 <smoothice> #later notes wrtlprnft
21:58 <@armabot> smoothice: Sent just now: <smoothice> K-Yo referred me to you to inquire about the VPS hosting company you use... hope you can explain that to me... Thanks.
21:59 <smoothice> ok
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22:03 <K-Yo> #later notes
22:03 <@armabot> K-Yo: I currently have notes waiting for $MrBougo, $randomnick, *mougo*, <<sh1n>>, <sh1n>, cid_06, ct¦kyle, dBd|nano, Durka,, eddie, epsy:, espy, everyone, G5_Ger, guru, how, I, kyle, later, MaZuffeR, monkey, Nickserv, noob7_away, operserv, philippec, ratchet, ratchet-, rickyross, royale, sebol, sithy, someone, somody, sunnygirl, unknown, voodoo, wrtlprnft, wrtlprnft..., wrtlpwnft, xs20, [dlh], (1 more message)
22:03 <smoothice> wrtlpwnft
22:03 <smoothice> lol
22:03 <K-Yo> #more
22:03 <@armabot> K-Yo: and aa_voodoo.
22:03 <K-Yo> #later notes $randomnick
22:03 <@armabot> K-Yo: Sent 2 years, 29 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, and 43 minutes ago: <McSpiddles> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 29 weeks, 3 days, 19 hours, and 43 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 29 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, and 56 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 26 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, and 59 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 25 weeks, 4 days, 23 (1 more message)
22:04 <K-Yo> #more
22:04 <@armabot> K-Yo: hours, and 59 minutes ago: <Sakireth> eat crap, and Sent 1 year, 36 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <MrBougo> Hello, I am epsy !
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22:04 <K-Yo> hahaha
22:04 <K-Yo> #later tell $randomnick well, the spam is enjoyable!
22:04 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
22:04 <K-Yo> #later notes someone
22:04 <@armabot> K-Yo: Sent 2 years, 26 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, and 34 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 26 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, and 34 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 26 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, and 34 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> enjoy the spam, and Sent 2 years, 25 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, and 52 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam
22:11 * wrtlprnft hopes this is not a bug in 0.2.8.3
22:11 <wrtlprnft> z-man will be glad to know we have to release 0.2.8.3.1
22:11 <wrtlprnft> *would
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22:52 <smoothice> epsy: wb!
22:52 <epsy> thanks
23:03 <MrBougo> #later notes $mrbougo
23:03 <@armabot> MrBougo: Sent 1 year, 27 weeks, 3 days, 15 hours, and 43 minutes ago: <Ishkabible> sup mate wanna m8
23:03 <MrBougo> wuuut
23:03 <MrBougo> #later notes *mougo*
23:03 <@armabot> MrBougo: Sent 1 year, 15 weeks, 5 days, 5 hours, and 43 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> more like 100 minutes of idleness
23:03 <MrBougo> #later notes nickserv
23:03 <@armabot> MrBougo: Sent 2 years, 25 weeks, 5 days, 0 hours, and 58 minutes ago: <Sakireth> drop, Sent 2 years, 25 weeks, 5 days, 0 hours, and 56 minutes ago: <Sakireth> register memoriesunknown, Sent 2 years, 25 weeks, 5 days, 0 hours, and 56 minutes ago: <Sakireth> help, and Sent 2 years, 25 weeks, 5 days, 0 hours, and 55 minutes ago: <Sakireth> /quit
23:03 <smoothice> #seen dlh
23:03 <@armabot> smoothice: dlh was last seen in #armagetron 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 34 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <dlh> You need to be a member of Apple's developer connection (it is free). https://connect.apple.com
23:03 <MrBougo> hahaha
23:03 <smoothice> ??
23:04 <MrBougo> do you think sakireth's password is that?
23:04 <MrBougo> hasnt logged in since 2006
23:04 <MrBougo> someone wanna try? :p
23:05 <MrBougo> #later notes how
23:05 <MrBougo> #later notes I
23:05 <@armabot> MrBougo: Sent 1 year, 37 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, and 40 minutes ago: <wrtlprnft> am i supposed to help you if you aren't there? ;)
23:05 <@armabot> MrBougo: Sent 1 year, 43 weeks, 2 days, 4 hours, and 48 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> thought we were going to start redoing it monday but we started early and Sent 1 year, 25 weeks, 5 days, 8 hours, and 14 minutes ago: <Monkey_arma> am now going to inform you about what is going on with our team(s) etc for afl. Ok, we have zmans server i see that. I am looking into getting cafe (wrtl will allow rain or (1 more message)
23:05 <MrBougo> #more
23:05 <@armabot> MrBougo: ed to admin so i will speak to them asap) and also i have admin for CT train so maybe we can use them instead of zmans, if zmans gets too popular.
23:05 <MrBougo> fail messages
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Log from 2009-01-02:
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00:12 <PinkTomato> #later tell wrtlprnft The latest 0.2.8 has been fixed, server crashing was due to a vote poll bug :).
00:12 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The operation succeeded.
00:12 <PinkTomato> Thanks armabot ;)
00:13 <epsy> #whoami
00:13 <@armabot> epsy: I don't recognize you.
00:13 <epsy> hrm
00:13 <PinkTomato> what about me armabot?
00:13 <epsy> #notes wrtlprnft
00:13 <PinkTomato> #whoami
00:13 <@armabot> epsy: Sent 1 minute ago: <PinkTomato> The latest 0.2.8 has been fixed, server crashing was due to a vote poll bug :).
00:13 <@armabot> PinkTomato: I don't recognize you.
00:14 <epsy> #later tell wrtlprnft can you link n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy as hostmask to my account on armabot?
00:14 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:27 <teabot> tstnews: TST 2009.01 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/tst-200901/> || DurkLord & SageKa win the TST 2008.11 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/durklord-sageka-win-the-tst-200811/> || Final challenge board is up! <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-challenge-board-is-up/> || Final rules and settings <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-rules-and-settings/> || Registration is open! <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/registration-is-open/> || Seco
00:28 <epsy> and yeah, there's TST 2009.01 soon
00:28 <epsy> stupid bot
00:33 <PinkTomato> woo! :D
00:34 <PinkTomato> Can I be team 30?
00:34 <PinkTomato> they have already won the tournament
00:34 <epsy> darn, that was announced since december 25th..none seen it :(
00:34 <epsy> heh
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02:06 <teabot> armablah: Open Source Software <http://mobile-trickz.blogspot.com/2008/11/open-source-software.html>
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02:42 <PinkTomato> .ubuntu
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02:51 <ct|kyle> #ubuntu
02:51 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
02:51 <ct|kyle> #help ubuntu
02:51 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (ubuntu <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config".
02:51 <ct|kyle> .alias add ubuntu echo sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
03:01 <ct|kyle> #tea
03:01 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
03:02 <epsy> #later tell wrtlprnft you should have armabot use /remove instead of /kick(prevents autorejoining). To do so, replace all occurences of KICK(with caps) from ircmsgs.py with REMOVE :)
03:02 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
03:02 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft has lots of messages today..
03:02 <ct|kyle> ya
03:03 <epsy> not only today
03:03 <PinkTomato> true ;)
03:03 <ct|kyle> btw he logs is does not need #later tell to tell him
03:03 <epsy> well, better have both, huh? :)
03:03 <ct|kyle> at lest that is what he told me a while back
03:04 <epsy> right, time for trolling on buildtagging
03:04 <ct|kyle> why TST end of this month
03:04 <ct|kyle> when ladle is always first sunday
03:05 <epsy> was planned since november already
03:05 <epsy> announced on xmas
03:05 <ct|kyle> it was? where?
03:05 <epsy> http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/durklord-sageka-win-the-tst-200811/
03:05 <epsy> http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/tst-200901/
03:10 <ct|kyle> epsy: ok then i agree with you on 1 week later for ladle
03:10 <ct|kyle> i now remember seeing your anouncement
03:19 <epsy> Lucifer, ping
03:21 <epsy> erm, crap
03:22 <epsy> polish.txt is wrongly encoded..it has ^Ms everywhere
03:26 <PinkTomato> epsy: I think the orginal encoding is Windows-1250
03:27 <epsy> yeah, but it is written as utf8..hm
03:28 <epsy> now I don't know if what I have is correct
03:29 <PinkTomato> those characters are invalid for arma though?
03:29 <epsy> I don't know, but they show up wrongly in vim
03:31 <epsy> I wonder what the diff will be like
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04:57 <smoothice> #si _=VcL.Sumo Server Dallas
04:57 <@armabot> smoothice: -=VcL.Sumo Server Dallas: Players (0/10):
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05:17 <ivantis2> armabot? op? #armagetron?
05:17 <ivantis2> daaahh...................................
05:17 <ivantis2> #r
05:17 <@armabot> ivantis2: (roulette [spin] ) -- Fires the revolver. If the (2 more messages)
05:18 <ivantis2> #more
05:18 <@armabot> ivantis2: bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin (1 more message)
05:18 <ivantis2> #more
05:18 <@armabot> ivantis2: the chambers and I will.
05:18 <ivantis2> #r spin
05:18 <@armabot> ivantis2: (roulette [spin] ) -- Fires the revolver. If the (2 more messages)
05:18 <ivantis2> ??
05:18 <ivantis2> #help r
05:18 <@armabot> ivantis2: (r <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "c (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.".
05:19 <ivantis2> #alias add r roulette
05:19 <@armabot> ivantis2: The operation succeeded.
05:19 <ivantis2> #r
05:19 -!- ivantis2 was kicked from #armagetron by armabot [BANG!]
05:19 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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05:19 <ivantis2> naice one
05:19 <ivantis2> #r
05:19 <@armabot> ivantis2: *click*
05:21 <smoothice> ivantis2: what the??
05:21 <smoothice> ivantis2: lol
05:26 <Lucifer> yay, star trek is finally downloaded :)
05:26 <ivantis2> star trek? *pointing at Lucifer* nerd
05:27 <Lucifer> holy shit, I've just been called a nerd by a 13-year old in IRC
05:27 <ivantis2> hey! i am 14
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05:28 <ivantis2> have you ever been to wichita kansas? this place is soooooooooo booooooooorring
05:28 <ivantis2> nothing better than irc
05:28 <ivantis2> so glad i go back home tomorrow
05:29 <ivantis2> if you will notice, i dont spend as much time online as i used to
05:29 <ivantis2> recently
05:29 <Lucifer> then why is there "ivantis", "ivantis2", and "ivantis3" in here?
05:29 <Lucifer> for every second I'm here, you're here for 3 seconds
05:30 <ivantis2> those are merely... uh... other people?
05:31 <ivantis2> yeah, they arent me. why, similar names, its not like smoothbot, smoothbot` and smoothice are the same people?
05:31 <Lucifer> heh, so it's like that, eh?
05:31 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
05:31 <ivantis2> ha, i see a mibbit ad: ThinkGeek - Gadgets, geek stuff, cool T-shirts! Get yours here.
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05:32 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer] by Lucifer
05:32 <Lucifer> smoothice: why do you have two bots here?
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05:32 <ivantis2> what happened to them?
05:32 <ivantis2> dude unban them
05:32 <ivantis2> they didnt do anything
05:32 <Lucifer> smoothice: ok, now why do you have three bots here?
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05:33 <Lucifer> ivantis2: an important part of growing up is learning not to give people commands
05:33 <smoothice_> lol
05:34 <ivantis2> okay, "maybe you should think about unbanning them (or whatever), i didnt see them do anything"
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05:34 <ivantis2> maybe
05:34 <ivantis> ivantis2, just fucking leave. you are really pissing me off
05:34 <Lucifer> I don't make decisions based on waht you see
05:35 * Lucifer will remove them both if they start arguing, since that's just pathetic
05:35 <ivantis2> dude, what did he just say to me?
05:35 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
05:35 <ivantis2> now i am pissed with you!
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05:35 <smoothice_> Lucifer
05:36 <smoothice_> Can you kick the rest of my instances?
05:36 <@Lucifer> smoothice_
05:36 <smoothice_> I had internet problems
05:36 <ivantis> ah good he left
05:36 <@Lucifer> haha
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05:36 <smoothice_> I'll get the names right in a bit
05:36 <smoothice_> thanks
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05:36 <smoothice_> k
05:36 <smoothice_> thanks
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05:36 <ivantis> dude wtf?
05:37 <@Lucifer> "dude wtf"?
05:37 <ivantis> "\"dude wtf\""?
05:37 <@Lucifer> how do you keep getting removed and you still come back? want me ot use bigger bullets, or can you get the idea for awhile?
05:37 <ivantis> …
05:37 <ivantis> why should i be removed?
05:37 <@Lucifer> because half the time when someone pings me, it's to deal with you spamming or doing something in this channel
05:38 <@Lucifer> and that's all the explanation you're getting
05:38 <ivantis> really?
05:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*@*.245.159.78] by Lucifer
05:38 -!- ivantis was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer [Lucifer]
05:38 <@Lucifer> yes, really
05:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer] by Lucifer
05:39 <smoothice_> how do I change my nick/
05:39 <smoothice_> to "smoothice"
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05:54 <Lucifer> /nick smoothice
05:57 <smoothice> ok
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06:02 <not_ivantis> *whistle* just minding my own business
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06:08 <smoothice> Lucifer: Why so harsh?
06:09 <@Lucifer> well, originally I wanted him to just go away with his three ivantises for awhile
06:09 <@Lucifer> he usually causes problems when other people are here, after all :)
06:09 <@Lucifer> but he didn't take the hint and just stay away for awhile, and that's Troublemaking with a capital T
06:10 <@Lucifer> I wish irc had the same kick/timeout to return feature that arma has
06:13 <luke-jr> Lucifer: can we get a string freeze on 0.2.8 plox?
06:14 <@Lucifer> ask z-man for that
06:14 * Lucifer is currently burning ST:TNG episode to disc
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06:33 <smoothice> Right....?
06:33 <smoothice> Europe-US comm break/
06:33 <smoothice> ?
06:33 <@Lucifer> looks like it
06:33 <smoothice> No notice yet...
06:33 <hang3r> wb to hell, since you were gone....
06:34 <hang3r> there have been a few changes
06:34 <hang3r> noteably, I am now lead developer of armagetron
06:34 <smoothice> ??
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06:34 <@Lucifer> he couldn't handle it and left
06:35 <hang3r> :)
06:36 <luke-jr> lol
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09:43 <@Lucifer> haha, started another 13GB download
09:53 <wrtlprnft> #later tell pinktomato thanks for the info, upgrade in progress
09:53 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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10:00 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy done… at least till the next supybot upgrade.
10:01 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:38 <guru3> i died :<
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10:46 <@Lucifer> yes, you did
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11:03 <hang3r> those sumo players have to be all on drugs
11:04 <hang3r> theres no way you can pull off the moves that they do with the precision that they have....
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11:36 <Lizmatic> yes, we are on drugs
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11:45 <@Lucifer> hang3r: your problem is that your drug is alcohol.
11:45 <@Lucifer> sober people can do what those sumo people do :)
11:46 <@Lucifer> it's physically impossible for drugs to improve you, all they can do is trigger abilities you already have
11:46 <@Lucifer> and mess you up, of course
11:49 <Lizmatic> don't listen to Lucifer, BECOME A JUNKIE
11:50 <@Lucifer> don't listen to Lizmatic, she's just a kid
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12:06 <Lizmatic> tell that to my kid
12:06 <Lizmatic> xD
12:19 <@Lucifer> heh, there's a world of difference between being a biological adult and being a grownup
12:19 <@Lucifer> if you don't believe me, meet my ex-wife
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12:49 <hang3r> fuck it, I actually care very little, most of the people in my industry are piss heads, it's the lifestyle that my sector chooses, mainly stressfull and shitty...
12:50 <@Lucifer> I think TWG would be cool as a party game
12:50 <@Lucifer> like those murder mystery games, only do TWG instead
12:51 <@Lucifer> every half hour or so you have to vote ;)
12:51 <hang3r> TWG?
12:51 <@Lucifer> yeah, twg
12:51 <hang3r> Never heard of it
13:08 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: actually that might be an idea
13:09 <@Lucifer> heh, I'm writing an email to my divorce support group to see if anybody's interested :)
13:09 <wrtlprnft> but how do the wolves vote?
13:09 <@Lucifer> of course, that group is hard to get anything organized with because everybody's got kids and stuff
13:09 <@Lucifer> that's the only thing I'm having trouble working out
13:09 <@Lucifer> on the forums, there's built in ways to privately communicate with the GM
13:09 <wrtlprnft> if anyone else wants to take her?
13:09 <@Lucifer> but in a party....
13:09 <wrtlprnft> exactly
13:10 <@Lucifer> it might work out, especially if you make everyone a special
13:10 <@Lucifer> if everyone has a special power, then everyone has to give the GM a piece of paper saying what they do with it
13:11 <PinkTomato> PM exist in real life, called text messaging ;) < though makes the game a little cheesy.
13:11 <@Lucifer> PinkTomato: requires everyone to have a cell phone
13:11 <@Lucifer> also, requires everyone who has to PM to find a private place to do so
13:11 <@Lucifer> of course, they'd have to already for special powers
13:12 <PinkTomato> well a small bit of paper and a pen is a low tech solution :)
13:16 <wrtlprnft> communication between wolves is still sort of limited
13:16 <wrtlprnft> regular players will spend far less time writing private messages to the gm
13:17 <@Lucifer> PinkTomato: people might still see it, which is why the idea of having everybody have special powers of some sort would work
13:17 <@Lucifer> well, in my experience, in the game already people collect into smaller groups in various private places
13:17 <@Lucifer> they create alliances, communicate, etc.
13:18 <@Lucifer> that's the part that makes it an appealing party game to me, provided it's in a location that's big enough to accomodate that stuff
13:21 <hang3r> lucifer, whats a good sound mixer for linux? Basically what I want to to is mix multiple sounds and output it as a wav or ogg
13:21 <@Lucifer> I use ecasound for quick mixes, audacity for stuff that requires processing
13:22 <hang3r> ecasound sounds good, i only need something quick and simple
13:22 <@Lucifer> it's commandline :)
13:22 <@Lucifer> which is why it's so useful for quick mixes
13:22 <hang3r> awesome
13:23 <PinkTomato> how do you mix in a command line?
13:23 <@Lucifer> you use ecasound, heh
13:23 <PinkTomato> ah right, missed the processing bit :)
13:24 <PinkTomato> so its just to overlap audio over, or add afile after?
13:24 <@Lucifer> well, mixing is a very basic processing, but it's nto something that can be done with cat or something
13:24 <@Lucifer> oh no, ecasound is a full-featured effects processor/mastering program
13:24 <hang3r> thanks Lucifer ecasound does exactly what I want
13:24 <@Lucifer> it's commandline, though, which for me makes it hard to use for actually mastering a song
13:25 <@Lucifer> but some people use it that way, particularly the author, iirc
13:25 <PinkTomato> I suppose, its the audio you want anyway
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15:00 <epsy> #whoami
15:00 <armabot> epsy: I don't recognize you.
15:00 <epsy> :|
15:18 <PinkTomato> \whoami
15:18 <PinkTomato> #whoami
15:18 <armabot> PinkTomato: PinkTomato
15:33 <P4> #whois PinkTomato
15:33 <P4> :þ
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15:48 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8722 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (9 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed)
15:48 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8691 to 8719:
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15:48 <armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Oops, fixed non-krawall compilation.
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15:48 <armabot> armagetronad: r8711 | bazaarmagetron | 2008-12-31 17:40:49 +0100 (Wed, 31 Dec 2008) | 2 lines
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15:54 <epsy> hello
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16:48 <BabyBug> \o
16:48 <@Lucifer> ,\o ?
16:49 <BabyBug> it's a person waving
16:49 <@Lucifer> oh, I thought you were showing us your underarm
16:49 <BabyBug> ...
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16:49 <@Lucifer> I guess we both had the same basic gesture in mind :)
16:49 <PinkTomato> welcome back Corn :)
16:49 <Corn> hey guys
16:49 * BabyBug slaps Lucifer
16:49 <BabyBug> Hey Corn
16:49 * Lucifer slaps BabyBug
16:50 <Corn> slap fight!
16:50 * Lucifer slaps Corn
16:50 * BabyBug straps Lucifer to a bed, slaps him and runs off
16:50 <Corn> ow...
16:50 <Corn> man
16:50 * Lucifer burns the straps off with his awesome powers, then blasts BabyBug with a giant burning fish.
16:50 * Corn backslaps Lucifer
16:50 <Corn> I'll slap slap slap yopu
16:50 <Corn> you*
16:50 * BabyBug throws Lucifer into the mouth of God
16:51 * PinkTomato slaps but misses
16:51 * Lucifer rips Corn's balls off, puts them in his slingshot, and fires them at BabyBug
16:51 * BabyBug replaces Lucifers eyes with his balls, and his balls with his eyes!!
16:51 <Corn> I've got balls of steel!
16:51 <@Lucifer> oh, well, ok then
16:52 * Lucifer rips Corn's balls off, puts them in his muzzle-loading musket, and fires them at BabyBug
16:52 <BabyBug> ><
16:52 <Corn> I think thats the only time anyone has included both ripping balls off and a musket in a sentence
16:53 <BabyBug> What's a musket?
16:53 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: it's a firearm
16:53 <Corn> Its what lucifer calls his...
16:53 <@Lucifer> hey, I finally tested some of my black powder
16:54 <BabyBug> black powder?
16:54 <Corn> If by black powder you mean...
16:54 <@Lucifer> black powder
16:54 <@Lucifer> you know, charcoal, KNO3, and sulfur
16:54 <@Lucifer> put some on your dick and light a match
16:54 <Corn> arousing
16:55 <BabyBug> Lucifer, are you into hardcore bondage?
16:55 <@Lucifer> I melted one of my rockets, instead of blowing out the nosecone
16:55 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: no, I just like saying things that make people wince
16:55 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: why, are you?
16:55 <BabyBug> Nice cover story
16:55 <BabyBug> and No =P
16:56 <BabyBug> softcore aye but nay hardcore
16:57 <Corn> Is it just me or do altoids taste extremely similar to tic-tacs
16:57 <@Lucifer> so spanking, but not nipple binding?
16:59 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yup
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17:00 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: so, a little boob-squeezing, but no whips?
17:00 <Corn> A little look but no touch
17:00 <@Lucifer> how about fisting?
17:01 <BabyBug> a little "boob-squeezing" doesn't even count as softcore bondage =P
17:01 <Corn> how about pop rockets?
17:01 <@Lucifer> it is when I'm squeezing :)
17:01 <BabyBug> fisting is fine
17:01 <PinkTomato> pop rockets?
17:01 <BabyBug> LOL Lucifer
17:03 <Corn> how about rape?
17:03 <@Lucifer> nobody wants to be raped....
17:03 <BabyBug> Corn, That's called rape, not bondage.
17:03 <@Lucifer> how about force fantasies?
17:03 <BabyBug> And if someone wants to be raped...it's not raped
17:04 <BabyBug> force fantasies are ok
17:04 <Corn> wtf is the difference between forcing sex and rape
17:04 <@Lucifer> safe words :)
17:04 <@Lucifer> special words that mean "stop right now"
17:04 <Corn> penguin
17:04 * Lucifer continues to force Corn. "You didn't say the right word!"
17:05 <BabyBug> Lucifer, what ever happened to keeping this channel clean? Shame on you!
17:05 <@Lucifer> heh, didn't I mention I was sick?
17:05 <BabyBug> ahhhh =(
17:05 <PinkTomato> get well soon :)
17:06 <BabyBug> Oh you did mention! I was lurking at the time
17:06 * BabyBug remembers now
17:06 * Lucifer sneezes
17:06 <BabyBug> ewwwww look away from me when you do that
17:07 <@Lucifer> ooo, I wonder if there's a porn site that specializes in sneezing on naked chicks
17:07 * BabyBug face palms
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17:08 <@Lucifer> hey, this lets me give an xkcd link, soon as I find it
17:09 * BabyBug really can't grasp the fascination with xkcd
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17:12 <@Lucifer> http://www.xkcd.com/305/
17:12 <@Lucifer> I wasn't an xkcd fan until I met a hot chick who was an xkcd fan
17:12 <@Lucifer> now I don't know the chick, but I know the comic
17:12 <@Lucifer> (well, knew it already, but you know....)
17:13 <BabyBug> I just don't find that funny in the slightest..
17:14 <@Lucifer> that one isn't, I just linked it because it's what I was thinking when I made the sneeze comment
17:14 <BabyBug> heh
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17:14 <BabyBug> www.snotshag.com \o/
17:15 <PinkTomato> is that a real link?
17:15 <BabyBug> no idea
17:15 <BabyBug> try clicking it
17:15 <BabyBug> lol
17:15 <PinkTomato> Ah its not, (but I did turn images off first ;))
17:16 <@Lucifer> like I'm really going to click a link some crazy lady in irc gave me
17:16 <@Lucifer> ooo, I should hurry up and register it
17:16 <BabyBug> crazy lady?!?!
17:16 <PinkTomato> Does the internet really need a website involving naked women sneezed upon?
17:17 <Corn> rule 34 on crazy lady in irc
17:17 <BabyBug> I'm not the crazy one!
17:17 <Corn> You're right.
17:17 <BabyBug> \o/
17:22 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: there's more than one crazy person here...
17:23 <BabyBug> But only one crazy lady
17:23 <BabyBug> Which isn't me Lucifer!
17:23 <BabyBug> Or at least tell me why! =P
17:23 <@Lucifer> eh? You never heard of catch-22?
17:23 <BabyBug> yeh....don't get it
17:24 <@Lucifer> if you say you're crazy, you're obviously not, so you have to fly more missions
17:24 <@Lucifer> but if you say you're not crazy, you must be telling the truth, so you have to fly more missions
17:24 <@Lucifer> (it's a book about bomber pilots in WW2)
17:24 * BabyBug is not a bomber pilot
17:25 <@Lucifer> all women are bomber pilots
17:25 <@Lucifer> considering how they like to drop bomb shells all around them ;)
17:26 * Lucifer is in the "over-generalize about women based on his psycho ex-wife" stage of divorce recovery right now
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17:30 <BabyBug> haha
17:31 <BabyBug> At least our bombs don't have a short fuse ;)
17:31 <@Lucifer> maybe not, but they have a much bigger payload
17:32 <BabyBug> That's only IF the guy can actually get the bomb to go off =P
17:34 <@Lucifer> ah, you're back in the dirty channel, I see
17:34 <@Lucifer> and here I thought we'd moved on from that...
17:34 <BabyBug> i wasn't aware i left? =P
17:34 <Corn> http://xkcd.com/457/
17:35 <@Lucifer> heh, I liked that one when it was first out, but I showed it to my then-wife
17:35 <@Lucifer> she was really mad at me for looking at it, I still don't understand why
17:35 <@Lucifer> maybe BabyBug (hi there!) can explain it?
17:36 <BabyBug> lol newp i found that quite funny actually lol
17:36 <@Lucifer> heh, when I was a teenager, I could unhook one of those with one hand
17:37 <@Lucifer> somewhere along the ways, I lost the talent
17:38 <@Lucifer> http://xkcd.com/105/
17:39 <BabyBug> i don't get it
17:40 <BabyBug> and as long as you can still undo em you're safe! One guy couldn't even realise my bra unclipped at the front and not the back ><
17:40 <BabyBug> he may of been drunk but that's still no excuse!
17:40 <@Lucifer> how long was he working at it, and did he get to see it?
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17:41 <@Lucifer> I had a similar problem with my ex, back before we were married, but I was working it under the shirt
17:41 <@Lucifer> of course, she only let me have about 20 seconds on the problem before telling me I was stupid for not realizing it unhooked in the front
17:41 <BabyBug> 20 seconds should be plenty ><
17:41 <BabyBug> lmao
17:41 <@Lucifer> so I'd have to know more about the situation before agreeing with you he was dumb...
17:41 <@Lucifer> 20 seconds with the shirt off, I'll grant you shoudl be plenty of time
17:42 <BabyBug> Well it was under the shirt but still he had aggessss
17:42 <@Lucifer> but under the shirt....
17:42 <@Lucifer> I guess it depends on what sort of action happened earlier, because if you're saying 20 seconds from the moment the hand first goes under the shirt, I disagree
17:42 <@Lucifer> but if the hand had already been under the shirt for a time, then he should've discovered it already :)
17:43 <Corn> http://xkcd.com/427/
17:43 <Corn> that one aint bad
17:43 <@Lucifer> but that's ok, because I haven't yet seen a woman who could undo my pants
17:43 <BabyBug> he must of had a minute surely....
17:43 <BabyBug> It was long enough for me to get bored and he never got any that night..
17:43 <BabyBug> shit kisser anyway
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17:46 <PinkTomato> http://xkcd.com/327/ I always liked the little bobby tables one :)
17:48 <Corn> i dont know shit about programming so that one doesnt make sense
17:48 <@Lucifer> I loved the bobby tables one, heh
17:48 <smoothice> oooh
17:49 <smoothice> lol
17:50 <PinkTomato> Corn: its not programming as such ;)
17:50 <Corn> i still dont get it..
17:50 <BabyBug> SQL injection \o/
17:51 <PinkTomato> i should learn how to test that
17:51 <BabyBug> lol
17:51 <PinkTomato> is there a website showing common php mistakes?
17:51 <BabyBug> Here's a common php mistake: Using PHP instead of Python
17:51 <PinkTomato> hehe, but then I would have to learn python!
17:52 <PinkTomato> php is slow admittably
17:52 <BabyBug> If i learned it anyone can learn it!
17:52 <PinkTomato> i'll look into it, quite a few people have commented on it
17:53 <@Lucifer> http://xkcd.com/353/
17:53 <BabyBug> ^^
17:54 <@Lucifer> honestly, I didn't see the conversation when I pasted that link
17:54 <BabyBug> haha
17:54 <@Lucifer> <3 python
17:54 <BabyBug> <3 python
17:54 <Corn> </3 python
17:54 <BabyBug> Corn, you fail
17:54 -!- Corn was kicked from #armagetron by Lucifer [why don't you love python?]
17:54 <BabyBug> abuse!
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17:54 <Corn> Shot to the heart
17:55 <@Lucifer> as I lay there alone in the dark
17:55 * BabyBug knows python (sort of) but has no idea what to do with it \o/
17:55 <PinkTomato> Does that mean python has no squiggly brackets?
17:55 <BabyBug> Yup PinkTomato
17:55 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: write a script for me :)
17:55 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, whitespace replaces curly brackets
17:55 <@Lucifer> no squiggly brackets, you have to actually indent your code
17:55 <PinkTomato> ah so you have to be a neat programmer
17:56 <BabyBug> Lucifer, what script?
17:56 <@Lucifer> basically, if it's a lazy practice you know you shouldn't be doing, python calls it a syntax error
17:56 <Corn> curse you syntax
17:56 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: I need a script that parses a file in freeciv and outputs C code :)
17:56 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i don't know any C code =P
17:56 <@Lucifer> I'll write the C code, but I don't want to write the python script ;)
17:56 <BabyBug> Uhhh
17:56 <BabyBug> I'm confused by what you mean =P
17:56 <@Lucifer> I know, that's sorta backwards, isn't it?
17:57 <@Lucifer> the file is a text file the describes network packets, and I want the script to read it and write a file that contains functions to serialize/unserialize the packets to/from structs to/from the network
17:58 <BabyBug> still confused xD
17:58 <@Lucifer> hmmmm
17:58 <@Lucifer> have you ever worked with a static typed language at all?
17:58 <BabyBug> upload the file for me to see!
17:58 <Corn> http://xkcd.com/418/
17:58 <BabyBug> No never...I only learned python cause i was bored
17:59 <Corn> I think i'll learn python once i switch over to ubuntu
17:59 <BabyBug> (What's a static typed language?)
17:59 <epsy> erm, bison anyone?
18:00 <epsy> @g bison
18:00 <teabot> epsy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bison - American Bison - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:00 <@Lucifer> http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/freeciv/trunk/common/packets.def?rev=15388&view=markup
18:00 <epsy> @g gnu bison
18:00 <teabot> epsy: http://www.gnu.org/software/bison/ - Bison - GNU parser generator
18:00 <@Lucifer> well, python is dynamic typed, meaning you can create a variable of any type at any time
18:01 <@Lucifer> static typed means you ahve to define your variables before you use them
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18:01 <BabyBug> i see
18:01 <@Lucifer> a compiler needs to know this information when it compiles your sources to binary
18:01 <@Lucifer> so if it's an integer, you have to say it's an integer before you can use it, and if you try to assign any value that's not an integer, you get a compiler error
18:01 <@Lucifer> but in python (and other dynamic type languages), you can do this:
18:01 <@Lucifer> a = 0.0
18:01 <@Lucifer> a = "hi there"
18:02 <PinkTomato> oh like java?
18:02 <@Lucifer> those two lines would cause an error in a static typed language
18:02 <Corn> 0.0 looks like a smiley face
18:02 <BabyBug> Well i understand that...However..what you want is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of my depth xD
18:02 <@Lucifer> heh, oh hell
18:02 <@Lucifer> have you worked with the python struct module?
18:02 <epsy> still, it's a bad practise to assign data of different types to the same name
18:02 <BabyBug> Lucifer, nope
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18:03 <Corn> Wait, lucifer would putting the a = "hi there" first still cause an error
18:03 <Corn> because you already defined a
18:03 <epsy> as a float
18:03 <@Lucifer> Corn: it depends on what you defined a as
18:03 <@Lucifer> if you had float a;, then yes
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18:03 <@Lucifer> but if you had char* a; then no
18:03 <Corn> interesting..
18:04 <@Lucifer> but if you had int a, then both lines would cause an error :)
18:04 <Corn> mhmmm mhmmm
18:04 <PinkTomato> but char*a would not be a valid number to do a + b though?
18:04 <epsy> or only the first one, if you use armabot crappy compiler
18:04 <epsy> what?
18:04 <epsy> an *
18:04 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: basically, a given variable type takes up a certain amount of space
18:05 <@Lucifer> when you send iit over the network, it has to be put back together a certain way, depending on if your machine is little endian or big endian
18:05 <@Lucifer> but in a real program, a variable that's worth sending over the network is usually more complex than a single type, it's a struct, or a class
18:05 <Corn> http://xkcd.com/207/ i totally do the last one and the 2nd one
18:05 <@Lucifer> so you have to have a particular format for the packet you're sending
18:06 <@Lucifer> you'd use python's struct module to create the packet if you're working solely in python
18:06 <@Lucifer> but I"m working in C++, I want the python script to write a bunch of code so I don't have to write it by hand
18:06 <PinkTomato> Corn: your not alone with the last one ;)
18:06 <BabyBug> oooooo
18:07 <Corn> What code is armagetron writen in?
18:07 <@Lucifer> C++
18:07 <BabyBug> armagetron should be recoded in python!
18:07 <epsy> C++, bash, python, bison, ruby..is that it? :P
18:07 <Corn> k i should probably learn that eventually
18:08 <@Lucifer> epsy: m4
18:08 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: i'ld like to see that :D
18:08 <Corn> Whats with the animal names? originality ftw
18:08 <epsy> oh yeah, let's not forget the autohell
18:08 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, no reason why it can't!
18:08 <@Lucifer> and anything luke-jr has touched is mostly C ;)
18:08 <epsy> haha
18:08 <@Lucifer> xml, but that's not a programming language
18:09 <@Lucifer> (technically neither is m4)
18:09 <BabyBug> Is python actually a programming language?
18:09 <Corn> how about theoretically
18:09 <@Lucifer> yes, python's actually a programming language
18:09 * BabyBug thought it was a scripting language
18:09 <epsy> I'd say scripting, but that's about the same thing
18:09 <BabyBug> ophs
18:09 <@Lucifer> Corn: autoconf is a bastard of m4 and shell scripting
18:10 <@Lucifer> scripting is programming, it just doesn't use a compiler ;)
18:10 <Corn> i have no idea what any of those are except shell
18:10 <epsy> BabyBug, i'd just separate "descripting something" and "giving orders"
18:10 <@Lucifer> m4 is just a macro language
18:10 <@Lucifer> you've used the ./configure script before, right?
18:10 <Corn> me?
18:10 <@Lucifer> er, maybe you're a windows bloke and you've never done ./configure && make && make install
18:11 <@Lucifer> yeah, you, COrn
18:11 <BabyBug> why type make if you're gonna type make install right after? :s
18:11 <Corn> yeah windows... im switch soon though
18:11 <@Lucifer> ah
18:11 <Corn> its too limiting i need to let my free spirit out man
18:11 <epsy> BabyBug, minimizing what's run using superuser mode
18:11 <@Lucifer> over here in linux land, source tarballs come with a script called "configure" which checks the build environment for stuff and sets other things up so the app can be built
18:11 <@Lucifer> it makes it possible to release source packages :)
18:11 <PinkTomato> I thought the make compiles, and the make install, stuffs it where the ./configure says it to go?
18:12 <@Lucifer> recall that Unix was originally distributed as source
18:12 <@Lucifer> PinkTomato: configure does a lot of things
18:12 <@Lucifer> checks to see if all the libraries are there to build, checks to make sure it can build, configures the build itself, lots of stuff
18:12 <epsy> mainly, it builds the actual Makefiles
18:12 <epsy> (at least in armagetron)
18:12 <@Lucifer> configure isn't handwritten, it's generated from a file
18:12 <epsy> whichever is better..
18:13 <@Lucifer> epsy: configure always builds the makefiles, but I seem to remember it using a perl script to do it :)
18:13 <PinkTomato> oh yeah, usually have to ./configure about 15 times to grab all the dependinces
18:13 <Corn> How long does python take to learn
18:13 <epsy> Lucifer, not in case one does not use make :)
18:13 <@Lucifer> yeah, well, configure is generated from a file
18:13 <@Lucifer> the program autoconf generates it, from configure.ac
18:13 * BabyBug is randomly hoping if this gets repeated lots, it'll eventually get fixed by someone quicker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/246159
18:13 <teabot> Launchpad bug 246159 in armagetronad "Server browser rendering errors followed by segmentation fault." [High,Confirmed]
18:13 <@Lucifer> configure.ac is a shell script with a bunch of macros in m4 language
18:13 <epsy> BabyBug, merge utf8 to trunk
18:13 <PinkTomato> Corn: depends on whether you know a programming language, I would say
18:14 <@Lucifer> so to write configure.ac, you need to know a little m4, and a little shell scripting, and a lot of autoconf-specific macros
18:14 <BabyBug> epsy, How would one do that? And am i going to get a huge amount of conflicts? =P
18:14 <epsy> yes, you are
18:14 <BabyBug> I doubt i'm capable of doing that then =(
18:15 <PinkTomato> where is the UTF-8 branch?
18:15 <@Lucifer> is the utf8 branch finished, by any chance?
18:15 <epsy> wasn't it pretty much ready, but outdated and prone to conflict?
18:15 <Corn> thank jesus for wikihow
18:15 <epsy> PinkTomato, somewhere in the svn repo
18:16 <BabyBug> How would one try to merge it? :P
18:16 <Corn> what kind of douchebag would write a how to on religion
18:16 <epsy> svn way of bzr-svn way?
18:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: how does mafioso work in the real world?
18:17 <@Lucifer> wtf is mafioso?
18:17 <@Lucifer> you mean the mob?
18:17 <luke-jr> Lucifer: IIRC, the GM names each person and the wolves raise hands
18:17 <luke-jr> (non-wolves have their eyes cloed)
18:17 <@Lucifer> er, I've never seen it run in the real world
18:17 <@Lucifer> I've got two takers so far, though
18:17 <@Lucifer> if that's all I get, I'll just direct them to the next arma-forums game ;)
18:18 <luke-jr> Lucifer: Mafioso is the original game
18:18 <Corn> oh man i love that game; mafia
18:18 <luke-jr> from which the werewolf variant spawned
18:19 <@Lucifer> all google's giving me is a PC game
18:19 <Corn> is python any different in linux as opposed to windows?
18:19 <luke-jr> check wikipedia for 'mafia party game'
18:19 <epsy> Corn, theoretically not
18:19 <BabyBug> .svn
18:19 <BabyBug> @svn
18:19 <luke-jr> Corn: yes, but not significantly
18:19 <epsy> #svn
18:19 <armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
18:19 <BabyBug> stupid thing
18:19 <luke-jr> IIRC, the differences are all under one OS-specific section
18:20 <epsy> I do not know where the utf8 branch is
18:20 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/utf8/
18:20 <BabyBug> ya ya i found that already =P
18:20 <luke-jr> epsy: private/wrtl
18:20 <PinkTomato> hehe
18:20 <luke-jr> or maybe he moved it out
18:21 <epsy> BabyBug, well then svn should probably know what to do, just do svn merge /path/to/branch/to/merge/from
18:21 <@Lucifer> I didn't know it was based on a party game already, haha
18:21 <BabyBug> epsy, so svn trunk is identical to bzr trunk?
18:21 <@Lucifer> there's an idea, though
18:21 <epsy> supposedly
18:21 <@Lucifer> just get everyone back into the same room, have them close their eyes and lower their heads, and have the wolves vote
18:23 <Corn> its like werewolf game without all the special villagers
18:23 <BabyBug> svn co http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/utf8/
18:23 <BabyBug> svn: Repository moved temporarily to '/viewvc/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/utf8/'; please relocate
18:23 <Corn> you still lynch people
18:23 <BabyBug> Ummm?
18:23 <PinkTomato> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/utf8/
18:23 <PinkTomato> sorry, I copy pasted the wrong line ;)
18:23 <BabyBug> ahhhh
18:23 <BabyBug> ty
18:25 <luke-jr> Corn: Mafioso has special roles too
18:25 <luke-jr> anyone want to test TWG on my Arma server?
18:25 <PinkTomato> on an arma server?
18:26 <MrBougo> http://www.sfwchan.com/pics/35341883.jpg
18:26 <BabyBug> hrmm
18:26 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: yup
18:26 <BabyBug> epsy, should it actually say anything when i do svn merge?
18:26 <epsy> I don't know, check the svn doc
18:26 <luke-jr> BabyBug: wt_f_ are you doing svn merge for?
18:26 <@Lucifer> yeah, it should insult you while you're doing it
18:26 <BabyBug> luke-jr, bored!
18:26 <@Lucifer> hey, we could restart are earlier conversation, heh
18:27 <BabyBug> which one?
18:27 <epsy> STOP PUSHING ME
18:27 <luke-jr> let's play TWG ☹
18:27 <BabyBug> oh woops i'm a twit
18:29 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: have you got the merge to work :)?
18:29 <PinkTomato> svn documentation is... confusing
18:29 <BabyBug> well i got it to work....I'm confused at the first conflict ='(
18:32 <PinkTomato> :(
18:33 <BabyBug> ok i give up
18:36 <@Lucifer> resolving conflicts is not for the faint of heart
18:37 <@Lucifer> I just had a recruiter tell me they've got a job that's 33 miles away
18:37 <@Lucifer> my clutch would burn out the first week :(
18:37 <@Lucifer> (and it would be a three hour bicycle commute)
18:37 <@Lucifer> (one way)
18:37 <BabyBug> O.o
18:37 <epsy> does svn prevent conflicts that occur because of double-committing?
18:38 * BabyBug looks at Lucifer for the answer to that
18:38 <epsy> ie. same patch applied on both branches
18:40 <luke-jr> I don't think so.
18:40 <luke-jr> might depend
18:40 <epsy> eww
18:40 <epsy> I might unpack bzr-svn as well, then
18:44 <PinkTomato> svn merge -r4827:6978 ../utf8 < is that correct? it's taking forever
18:44 <epsy> do not know
18:44 <epsy> argh, I don't have bzr-svn installed
18:45 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: what line did you use ?
18:45 <BabyBug> svn merge ../utf8
18:45 <PinkTomato> oh thanks :)
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18:45 <Lizmatic> o/
18:45 <PinkTomato> o/
18:45 <BabyBug> \o
18:50 <epsy> P4, are striked L ( ł ) common in polish?
18:50 <P4> yes, very common
18:50 <epsy> right
18:51 <P4> read as W in "weed"
18:51 <@Lucifer> wow, I can't say no to that
18:51 <@Lucifer> she's offered to pay me daily until I get things going again
18:51 <@Lucifer> in that case, I have to accept, I need the work :/
18:51 <@Lucifer> (even though I don't want to drive otu to jarrell every day)
18:52 <epsy> P4, it was about this :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/312240
18:52 <teabot> Launchpad bug 312240 in armagetronad "Polish language outdated for 0.2.8.3" [Undecided,Fix committed]
18:52 <epsy> grm, the launchpad staff still didn't fix my comment :S
18:52 <P4> is there a polish language, wiw
18:52 <P4> :)
18:53 <P4> ąęółćńśźż ← those are all of them iirc :þ
18:54 <luke-jr> epsy: btw, why are we asking for UTF-8 language files?
18:54 <luke-jr> aren't we still on Latin-1?
18:54 <epsy> yes, we are
18:55 <epsy> that's what his transliterated version is for
18:55 <luke-jr> …
18:55 <luke-jr> so 0.2.8 shouldn't even have the polish.txt?
18:55 <epsy> only transliterated, I guess
19:00 <luke-jr> not that simple ☹
19:00 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r742 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8691 to 8719:...
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19:12 <P4> who is rafal cieslak? :)
19:12 <epsy> BabyBug, \ [====== ] copying revision 126/2042
19:13 <epsy> BabyBug, zzz
19:13 <BabyBug> epsy, what's that?
19:13 <epsy> bzr..copying revisions
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19:14 <ivantis2> so... am i unbanned yet?
19:15 <BabyBug> ivantis2, you were banned because of ivantis3
19:15 <epsy> the other you or you?
19:15 <BabyBug> (the bot)
19:15 <BabyBug> So you weren't banned...It's just the bot couldn't be banned without you being banned =P
19:15 <epsy> that's what she said
19:17 <BabyBug> epsy, which revisions? i'm confused
19:17 <ivantis2> uh no, Lucifer specifically banned ivantis at home, ivantis3 and ivantis even had different hostnames
19:17 <epsy> bzr co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/branches/utf8/ 0.2.8-utf8-svn
19:17 <BabyBug> ivantis2, it was guru, not lucifer
19:17 <epsy> oh, that other ivantis?
19:17 <BabyBug> And he wanted to baned ivantis3
19:17 <BabyBug> not ivantis
19:18 <ivantis2> no yesterday
19:18 <BabyBug> oh right
19:18 <ivantis2> #logs
19:18 <armabot> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/
19:19 <epsy> by the way mark shuttleworth can read the future
19:19 <epsy> here even, at bug 39464
19:19 <teabot> Launchpad bug 39464 in malone "Where's the bug reporter?" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39464
19:19 <ivantis2> crazy
19:20 <BabyBug> lol epsy
19:20 <ivantis2> guess what??? im on the honor roll
19:20 <armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8723 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/language/ (polish.txt polish_transliterated.txt): new polish files; polish.txt is UTF-8 -> Latin-1 translit
19:20 <ivantis2> i just looked at my grades today
19:21 <ivantis2> arent you guys proud of me?
19:21 <BabyBug> no, fuck off
19:22 <ivantis2> that wasnt very nice
19:22 <BabyBug> Take the hint!
19:22 <ivantis2> i got 3 As, 5 Bs
19:23 <ivantis2> to leave?
19:23 <ivantis2> *crying* i hate you all!
19:23 <epsy> You solved the puzzle!
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19:24 <BabyBug> yay!
19:24 <epsy> You solved the puzzle!
19:24 <BabyBug> i rock!
19:24 <epsy> now u can go thru the magic mindportal
19:24 <BabyBug> Lucifer, /mode +b *!*Android@*
19:24 <epsy> lol
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19:30 * PinkTomato just realised that there is no point merging 0.2.8 with utf8 as Bitmap fonts are obviously not compatible.
19:31 <BabyBug> .........
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19:32 <PinkTomato> well if i used trunk it would make sense, but damn me, I thought it would be easier to use 0.2.8
19:32 <PinkTomato> It seems the UTF8 uses ttf font anyway, rFont.cpp is big
19:32 <ivantis2> i give up, im back
19:33 <BabyBug> 0.2.8 doesn't even use FTGL does it?
19:33 <epsy> no it doesnt
19:33 * BabyBug is cleva
19:33 <PinkTomato> no but the UTF8 branch references it
19:33 <epsy> maybe the utf8 branch, if PinkTomato says so
19:33 <PinkTomato> #include <FTGLPixmapFont.h>
19:33 <PinkTomato> so i assume so
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19:35 <PinkTomato> Meld is really handy, I didn't realise I can just click those arrows to paste
19:36 <ivantis2> no one cares? meanies
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19:39 <BabyBug> Lucifer, /mode +b *!*Android@*
19:45 <PinkTomato> are all ivantis' the same ivantis?
19:47 <epsy> he says not
19:49 <BabyBug> But they're all just as annoying
19:53 <epsy> argh, I knew I would have ended in doubleposting
19:54 <BabyBug> ?
19:56 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18922
19:57 <BabyBug> why didn't you just edit ya other post? :P
19:58 <epsy> I had clicked quote, then wanted to copypaste .. forgot then
19:59 <BabyBug> twit
20:00 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: I've already banned him 4 times today, how many times do you want me to ban him?
20:00 <BabyBug> Lucifer, until he stops coming back!
20:00 <BabyBug> If you're lazy just +o me *rolls eyes*
20:01 <@Lucifer> heh, I'm going to need a lot more people complaining about him before I'm willing to try to run him off completely :)
20:01 <epsy> Lucifer, one other thing which is fun when kicking autorejoiners is to type the channel name yourself, with fucked up capitalisation
20:02 <@Lucifer> ? explain, epsy
20:02 <@Lucifer> you mean kick them to a particular channel with different capitalization so they can't come back?
20:02 <@Lucifer> oh yeah, luke-jr said he'd registered with armabot
20:02 <@Lucifer> #list channel
20:02 <armabot> Lucifer: alert, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, cycle, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, enable, halfop, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, invite, kban, key, kick, limit, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, mode, moderate, nicks, op, unban, unmoderate, and voice
20:02 <epsy> /kick #armagetron epsy
20:03 <@Lucifer> #channel add capability luke-jr kick
20:03 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: 'supybot.add' is not a valid configuration variable.
20:03 <@Lucifer> I don't think that's it
20:03 <@Lucifer> #list admin
20:03 <armabot> Lucifer: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
20:03 <@Lucifer> #capability add
20:03 <epsy> capability add *
20:03 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: The command "capability add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "capability add".
20:03 <@Lucifer> #admin capability add
20:03 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:03 <@Lucifer> grrr
20:03 <@Lucifer> #admin capability add
20:03 <armabot> Lucifer: (admin capability add <name|hostmask> <capability>) -- Gives the user specified by <name> (or the user to whom <hostmask> currently maps) the specified capability <capability>
20:03 <@Lucifer> #admin capability add luke-jr kick
20:03 <armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
20:03 <@Lucifer> anybody else?
20:03 <BabyBug> me!
20:04 <@Lucifer> #admin capability add BabyBug kick
20:04 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: I can't find BabyBug in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.
20:04 <epsy> not sure if it will work like this
20:04 <@Lucifer> don't abuse it :)
20:04 <BabyBug> Awww
20:04 <BabyBug> how do i register?
20:04 <@Lucifer> hey, you have to register with armabot
20:04 <@Lucifer> /msg armabot register
20:04 <epsy> and you have to be able to auth with it, unlike me
20:04 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by Lucifer
20:04 <PinkTomato> So to be kicked by armabot, you need to be registered with it?
20:04 <BabyBug> Registered Lucifer!
20:04 <@Lucifer> no, to use armabot to kick somebody you have to be registered with armabot
20:04 <@Lucifer> #admin capability add BabyBug kick
20:05 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
20:05 <PinkTomato> Ah thats alright then :)
20:05 <@Lucifer> #kick PinkTomato like this
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20:05 <epsy> ooh, he applied my patch :)
20:05 <@Lucifer> he did :)
20:05 <BabyBug> lol
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20:05 <epsy> that's what he had done, not the thing with my hostmask
20:06 <epsy> grm
20:06 <@Lucifer> see? wasn't that fun? :)
20:06 <PinkTomato> ah :)
20:06 <PinkTomato> lol
20:06 <epsy> @owner capability list Lucifer
20:06 <epsy> #owner capability list Lucifer
20:06 <@Lucifer> the reason for using armabot for it is so we can be more giving with those particular permissions, and if someone goes nuts, we can just deop armabot while we deal with it
20:06 <@Lucifer> #admin capability list Lucifer
20:07 <@Lucifer> #list admin
20:07 <@armabot> Lucifer: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
20:07 <epsy> @ping
20:07 <teabot> pong
20:07 <epsy> #list owner
20:07 <@armabot> epsy: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep
20:07 <luke-jr> presumably the utf8 branch is based on trunk..
20:07 <BabyBug> #capability list Lucifer
20:07 <@armabot> BabyBug: (capability list [<channel>]) -- Returns the capabilities present on the <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
20:07 <BabyBug> blah!
20:07 <@Lucifer> #capability list
20:07 <@armabot> Lucifer: -halfop -op -protected -voice
20:07 <BabyBug> #capability list
20:07 <@armabot> BabyBug: -halfop -op -protected -voice
20:08 <@Lucifer> luke-jr: it is, but it was made a long time ago
20:08 <BabyBug> armabot fails
20:08 <epsy> #channel capability list
20:08 <@armabot> epsy: -halfop -op -protected -voice
20:08 <epsy> #admin capability list
20:08 <epsy> #owner capability list
20:08 <@Lucifer> #list admin
20:08 <@armabot> Lucifer: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
20:08 <@Lucifer> #list owner
20:08 <@armabot> Lucifer: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep
20:08 * luke-jr wonders if UTF-8 is better off being rewritten
20:08 <epsy> brb
20:08 <Corn> #list register
20:08 <@armabot> Corn: Error: 'register' is not a valid plugin.
20:08 <luke-jr> in two stages
20:08 <luke-jr> first, internally, so languages and menus are UTF-8
20:09 <PinkTomato> ./tools/tString.h:135: error: ‘int tString::RemoveWordRight(int)’ cannot be overloaded
20:09 <luke-jr> then after that is working, modify the network stack to support UTF-8
20:09 <Corn> #list plugin
20:09 <@armabot> Corn: author, contributors, help, list, and plugin
20:09 <PinkTomato> maybe ;)
20:09 <BabyBug> luke-jr, won't that take longer? :(
20:09 <luke-jr> BabyBug: well, if it's based on an old trunk, it might be faster
20:09 <luke-jr> old trunk won't necessarily merge cleanly
20:09 <luke-jr> tbh, I don't see a reason why UTF-8 would take long at all
20:09 <luke-jr> seems fairly straightforward
20:10 <luke-jr> at least internally
20:10 <luke-jr> network stack might be complex for the server
20:10 <@Lucifer> iirc, the issues were largely in ftgl
20:10 <BabyBug> in that case, hurry up!
20:10 <@Lucifer> and/or the network
20:10 <luke-jr> Lucifer: FTGL is UTF-8 capable now
20:10 <Corn> #message Corn hi me
20:10 <@Lucifer> really? reliably? (not that reliably matters, at this rate we'll finally release something when 1 terahurtz processors hit the market)
20:10 <luke-jr> in theory
20:11 <luke-jr> Lucifer: the UTF-8 capable FTGL crashes with Latin-1
20:11 <BabyBug> yes it does!
20:11 <@Lucifer> ah, is that why babybug's server browser keeps crashing?
20:11 <luke-jr> yes
20:11 <@Lucifer> then it's not our bug anyway, it's ftgl's ;)
20:11 <luke-jr> so migrating internal to UTF-8 fixes that
20:11 <luke-jr> in theory
20:11 <Corn> i accidentally left a dr. pepper outside and its 23 degrees
20:11 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: go bug them :)
20:11 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I reported it to FTGL already
20:11 <@Lucifer> Corn: so drink it before it gets too warm
20:11 <PinkTomato> so the UTF8 build dosen't work?
20:12 <PinkTomato> as FTGL didn't have UTF8 support 2 years ago?
20:12 <Corn> its kind of solid... more like eat it rather than drink
20:12 <@Lucifer> ah, you meant 23 degrees F
20:12 <@Lucifer> #finc 23
20:12 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
20:12 <@Lucifer> fuck you armabot
20:12 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: hence why I suspect a rewrite of the UTF-8 branch may be faster than updating it
20:12 <@Lucifer> I made that shortcut so I wouldn't ahve to remember Math convert!
20:12 <@Lucifer> #math convert
20:12 <@armabot> Lucifer: (math convert [<number>] <unit> to <other unit>) -- Converts from <unit> to <other unit>. If number isn't given, it defaults to 1. For unit information, see 'units' command.
20:12 <luke-jr> #help finc
20:12 <@armabot> luke-jr: (finc <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo You don't need this, just use Math convert".
20:13 <@Lucifer> #math convert 23 F to C
20:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: -5.0
20:13 <luke-jr> Lucifer: next time #lock it
20:13 <@Lucifer> I'll lock armabot's ass, I swearit!
20:13 <luke-jr> #alias add finc math convert $1 F to C
20:13 <luke-jr> #finc 23
20:13 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
20:13 <@armabot> luke-jr: -5.0
20:13 <@Lucifer> why doesn't it say which smart-ass removed it, anyway?
20:13 <Corn> Lucifer, it would be freezing regardless
20:13 <luke-jr> #lock finc
20:13 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
20:13 <@Lucifer> #lock finc
20:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
20:13 <@Lucifer> Corn: no, 23 degrees C is a warm day
20:13 <PinkTomato> #finc -40
20:13 <@armabot> PinkTomato: -40.0
20:13 <@Lucifer> #cinf 23
20:13 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
20:14 <@Lucifer> #math convert 23 C to F
20:14 <@armabot> Lucifer: 73.4
20:14 <Corn> then why did you bother converting
20:14 <Corn> i thought you meant it would be -5 C
20:14 <@Lucifer> converting what?
20:14 <@Lucifer> I'm nagging you for not providing units
20:14 <Corn> tsk tsk
20:14 <@Lucifer> because if wrtlprnft (hi there!) was here, he'd be nagging you instead :)
20:15 * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug
20:15 <Corn> he's probably eves dropping for all you know
20:15 <BabyBug> ct|kyle?
20:15 <ct|kyle> BabyBug?
20:15 <BabyBug> die
20:15 <PinkTomato> so merging UTF8 to 0.2.8 is going to be a waste of time?
20:15 <@Lucifer> #kick somebody
20:15 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: somebody is not in #armagetron.
20:15 <@Lucifer> PinkTomato: it's not going to happen
20:15 <Corn> try random
20:15 <@Lucifer> er, you mean you're trying to do taht?
20:15 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: nothing merges to 0.2.8
20:16 <PinkTomato> I was
20:16 <@Lucifer> if you do that, you'll just end up with 0.3.0 with UTF8
20:16 <@Lucifer> heh, don't, it is in fact a waste of time
20:16 <@Lucifer> 0.2.8 uses a bitmap font, you need a real font engine to have utf8
20:16 <@Lucifer> which is in the trunk, that's what ftgl is
20:16 <PinkTomato> I reliased that half way through
20:16 <@Lucifer> ah, ok :)
20:16 <@Lucifer> you also need string changes we made, iirc.
20:17 <luke-jr> XD
20:17 <PinkTomato> Thats where the make fails
20:17 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: 0.2.8 doesn't get any more changes
20:18 <BabyBug> no version ever seems to get changes ><
20:18 <PinkTomato> I know, merging UTF8 to anything for me is too ambitious for myself anyway
20:18 <luke-jr> BabyBug: trunk does
20:18 <BabyBug> luke-jr, lies
20:18 <PinkTomato> but the trunk is so big
20:18 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: big?
20:19 <@Lucifer> it's bigger than a beached whale
20:19 <luke-jr> btw, in case anyone didn't notice, I removed a font from trunk
20:19 <PinkTomato> It has lots of stuff in it that I thought might make it harder to merge
20:19 <luke-jr> I suspect it predates our own font.
20:19 <@Lucifer> predates?
20:19 <PinkTomato> I noticed when everything is now ____
20:19 <PinkTomato> and anything I type is: ____
20:19 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I think someone added the Bitstream font before someone made our Arma font
20:19 <@Lucifer> wait, it might have been the font wrtlprnft used to work ftgl in before he finished drawing our font
20:20 <luke-jr> anyhow, I removed it cuz it was GPL-incompatible and non-Free
20:20 <@Lucifer> if it was the font I dug up, it was free as in freedom
20:20 <luke-jr> Lucifer: it forbade commercial distribution by itself
20:20 <PinkTomato> I thought Bitstream was free?
20:20 <PinkTomato> but it isn't commercial distribution?
20:21 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: it lacks the freedom to commercially redistribute it
20:21 <luke-jr> that right is protected by the GPL
20:21 <BabyBug> But you're not commercially distributing....
20:21 <PinkTomato> Oh, so if Armagetron was supplied with a cover disc, it would be a breach?
20:21 <BabyBug> So what's the problem?
20:22 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: no
20:22 <PinkTomato> oh
20:22 <luke-jr> the GPL is not compatible, so it is a breach regardless of attempt to use it in that way
20:22 <@Lucifer> er, no
20:22 <@Lucifer> we don't depend on the font, it's just there
20:22 <@Lucifer> we can put any font we want in the game
20:23 <@Lucifer> as long as we have the rights to distribute it
20:23 <luke-jr> Lucifer: is it really mere aggregation if we include it with the game source itself?
20:23 <@Lucifer> and as long as we provide at least one font that the user can redistribute, and carefully note what parts they can't redistribute
20:23 <@Lucifer> the font isn't source code, it's data, and the gpl doesn't cover data
20:23 <luke-jr> GPL defines source code in such a way that it would include data
20:24 <@Lucifer> I'm not complaining that you removed it, mind you, just disagreeing with your GPL interpretation
20:24 <@Lucifer> no, GPL has a separate section for data, iirc
20:24 <@Lucifer> it's been a few years since I've read it, though
20:24 * luke-jr would need to reread.
20:24 <luke-jr> but this tangent is pretty irrelevant if nobody minds the removal
20:24 <BabyBug> wait people actually read them licenses?
20:24 <luke-jr> better to spend the time on other things
20:24 <@Lucifer> but the way I remember it, even with source code, if it's generic enough code, we're still safe
20:24 <@Lucifer> where generic means "we don't depend on it"
20:25 <luke-jr> Lucifer: IIRC, generic+not included
20:25 <@Lucifer> so we can link to non-gpl-compatible libraries so long as we don't need them
20:25 <luke-jr> but as I said, let's do something more useful
20:25 <@Lucifer> ahhh, but truetype fonts are compiled, iirc ;)
20:25 <luke-jr> so long as there are alternative libraries that fit the same gap*
20:25 * Lucifer is just killing time until his head finally falls down and he's asleep
20:25 <luke-jr> oh
20:25 <BabyBug> END OF DISCUSSION
20:26 <PinkTomato> this legal talk goes over my head
20:26 <@Lucifer> then read this:
20:26 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: programmers like to pretend to be lawyers ☺
20:26 <@Lucifer> http://xkcd.com/378/
20:26 <@Lucifer> hey, the only difference between programmers and lawyers is the language used
20:26 <@Lucifer> otherwise, none of them have friends, girls, etc.
20:27 <PinkTomato> can a programmer justify £60 an hour though?
20:27 <@Lucifer> yes
20:27 <luke-jr> yes
20:27 <luke-jr> that seems awful cheap for a lawyer
20:27 <@Lucifer> well, it's pounds, see
20:27 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I'm adjusting for that
20:27 <luke-jr> ~$125 IIRC
20:27 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: true, I forgot the cost
20:27 <@Lucifer> adjust for differences in the legal system while you're at it :)
20:27 <luke-jr> heh
20:27 <luke-jr> I don't know that
20:28 <@Lucifer> here, you need a lawyer if you want to wipe your ass in the courtroom
20:28 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: its worth less that that
20:28 <PinkTomato> £1 == $1.5
20:28 <ct|kyle> #g
20:28 <@Lucifer> but yeah, lawyers make more than programmers, and that's because they deal with more life-changing situations
20:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (google calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
20:28 <ct|kyle> #g £1 in USD
20:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: UK£ 1 = 1.4487 U.S. dollars
20:28 <@Lucifer> #g sizeof(lucifer's ass)
20:28 <@armabot> Lucifer: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
20:29 <luke-jr> Lucifer: lawyers don't seem to work as literally as programmers tho
20:29 <@Lucifer> heh, yeah they do :)
20:29 <luke-jr> one example being a problem I am currently facing
20:29 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I don't know, a programmer could change a lot of lives if they were in charge of life critical systems
20:29 <luke-jr> my court order says I must take prescribed medication
20:29 <@Lucifer> PinkTomato: and *those* programmers get paid a shitload of money
20:29 <luke-jr> but nothing was prescribed because I didn't want to take it ;)
20:30 <luke-jr> however, the fact that it was *recommended* will be problematic
20:30 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: ah I see my failed point :)
20:30 <@Lucifer> ah, are your judges elected or appointed?
20:30 <luke-jr> if legal things were literal, I would be off fine because it was not prescribed
20:30 <luke-jr> Lucifer: appointed, I think
20:30 <@Lucifer> see, ours are mostly elected, which means many of them haven't studied law at all
20:31 <luke-jr> speaking of which, is there such a thing as a good psychiatrist?
20:31 <luke-jr> and if so, how can I find one?
20:31 <ct|kyle> in indiana we can vote to remove Judges but the new ones are appointed
20:32 <luke-jr> wtf, ct|kyle pays attention to those sort of things? XD
20:33 <ct|kyle> when there are about 20 on the ballot, you kind of have to (actually i think there were 5)
20:34 * luke-jr didn't see a ballot
20:34 -!- SageLord [n=aaron_wo@adsl-69-154-196-221.dsl.bumttx.swbell.net] has joined #armagetron
20:37 <PinkTomato> Regarding armagetron trunk latest, ./configure fail on boostlib, does this mean that the autotools-dev/autoconf of ubuntu is out-of-date?
20:37 <@Lucifer> no, it means you need to install boost
20:37 <BabyBug> #ubuntu
20:37 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
20:38 <@Lucifer> once you have a configure script (without errors from the generators that make it), everything else is
20:38 <BabyBug> \o/
20:38 <@Lucifer> um
20:38 <PinkTomato> I have that BabyBug :)
20:38 <@Lucifer> I forgot my chain of thought
20:38 * PinkTomato found libboost and wonders how I could have missed it
20:38 <@Lucifer> well, the ubuntu alias is really just a more or less random list of libraries
20:39 <@Lucifer> we like to see which random configurations work and which don't, that way we don't have to bother to try to figure out what libraries we actually depend on
20:40 <@Lucifer> http://xkcd.com/154/
20:42 <@Lucifer> http://xkcd.com/394/ <--- for luke-jr
20:43 <luke-jr> old
20:44 <PinkTomato> old can be good too
20:45 <PinkTomato> is this bad: http://rafb.net/p/wXiFk111.html ?
20:45 <@Lucifer> terrible
20:45 <@Lucifer> astonishingly bad
20:45 <PinkTomato> is there a way I can make it good?
20:46 <@Lucifer> paste the errors at the beginning?
20:46 <Corn> #weather burlington, vt
20:46 <luke-jr> what happened?
20:46 <@armabot> Corn: The current temperature in Winooski, Vermont is 21.2°F (2:46 PM EST on January 02, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 8.6°F. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006.0 hPa (Falling).
20:46 <@Lucifer> no << in tString
20:46 <@Lucifer> #weather Austin, TX
20:46 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in UT Campus, Austin, Texas is 72.9°F (1:46 PM CST on January 02, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.14 in 986.7 hPa (Falling).
20:46 <luke-jr> tString(((const char*)"AAA")) <-- WTF is this?
20:46 <Corn> wow
20:46 <Corn> when was the last time it snowed in austin
20:47 <BabyBug> trunk is getting a segmentation fault when i type ./bootstrap.sh =(
20:47 <PinkTomato> this is the trunk btw, not my attempt at mergin
20:47 <@Lucifer> couple of weeks ago
20:47 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: bootstrap.sh is a shell script
20:47 <@Lucifer> so you've got a more serious problem
20:47 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: that code is not in trunk
20:47 <luke-jr> (const char*)"AAA" is the same as "AAA"
20:48 <PinkTomato> BabyBug how old is the code?
20:48 <luke-jr> why is it being cast? :/
20:48 <Corn> shell is a linux terminal right?
20:48 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, i just pulled it
20:48 <luke-jr> Corn: …
20:48 <PinkTomato> That's odd
20:48 <PinkTomato> It was erroring with Generating version
20:48 <luke-jr> BabyBug: and changed it?
20:48 <BabyBug> luke-jr, no ><
20:48 <PinkTomato> with me, but the update fixed it
20:48 <luke-jr> BabyBug: well you don't have trunk vanilla code
20:48 <luke-jr> err
20:48 <BabyBug> what?
20:48 <luke-jr> PinkTomato that is
20:49 <PinkTomato> $ svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
20:49 <PinkTomato> thats correct right?
20:49 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: yes
20:50 <PinkTomato> Do you ./bootstrap.sh on svn?
20:50 <luke-jr> yes
20:50 <luke-jr> engine/ePlayer.cpp:4932: error: no match for ‘operator<<’ in ‘tString(((const char*)"AAA")) << lowerUser’
20:50 <PinkTomato> Oh right
20:50 <luke-jr> that code mentioned does not exist in trunk
20:50 <luke-jr> nor does it make sense
20:51 <BabyBug> Lucifer, how would i go about figure out what's causing the segfault ><
20:51 -!- Janowar [n=kvirc@65.198.5.139] has joined #armagetron
20:51 <PinkTomato> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp?revision=8717&view=markup
20:51 <@Lucifer> add echo statements between each line in bootstrap.sh and see what's the last one printed before the segfault?
20:51 <PinkTomato> check line 4932 luke-jr :S
20:52 <Janowar> hey guys, does the armagetron windows installer have a quiet install option?
20:53 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: that line is different
20:53 <BabyBug> Lucifer, it segfaults on this line: echo "m4_define(AUTOMATIC_VERSION,["`sh batch/make/version $MYDIR`"])" > version || exit 1
20:53 <BabyBug> Why? O.o
20:53 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that shouldn't be possible
20:53 <BabyBug> luke-jr, well it is
20:53 <BabyBug> lol
20:53 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: thats the same bug I had :S,
20:53 <@Lucifer> seems like m4 has to be the one segfaulting
20:53 <luke-jr> BabyBug: blame your crummy OS
20:53 <BabyBug> is that bad?
20:54 <PinkTomato> z-man fixed it :S
20:54 <@Lucifer> well yeah, if your m4 is borked, you're screwed
20:54 <BabyBug> ?!
20:54 <BabyBug> hrmph
20:54 <luke-jr> Lucifer: wait, what?
20:54 <@Lucifer> PinkTomato: what was the actual problem you had?
20:54 <luke-jr> m4 isn't even running there
20:54 <@Lucifer> oh wait, you're right luke, m4 isn't running yet
20:54 <@Lucifer> heh
20:54 <luke-jr> BabyBug: please run: batch/make/version
20:54 <PinkTomato> its just an echo, that is what confused me
20:54 <@Lucifer> I said I was sick, now I'm also really tired ;)
20:54 <PinkTomato> thats the file z-man changed
20:55 <BabyBug> luke-jr.......
20:55 <BabyBug> richie@richie-laptop:~/armagetron/armagetronad$ sh batch/make/version
20:55 <BabyBug> cat: /major_version: No such file or directory
20:55 <BabyBug> Segmentation fault
20:55 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I didn't say 'sh' ;p
20:55 <luke-jr> BabyBug: ok, oops
20:55 <BabyBug> ,,
20:55 <luke-jr> batch/make/version $PWD
20:55 <BabyBug> just says Segmentation Fault this time
20:55 <epsy> Janowar, define what a quiet installation is ?
20:56 <luke-jr> BabyBug: date +%Y%m%d
20:56 <@Lucifer> epsy: no prompts
20:56 <BabyBug> luke-jr, worked..20090102
20:56 <epsy> ah
20:56 <luke-jr> BabyBug: this is a Subversion checkout?
20:56 <epsy> use the zip
20:56 <@Lucifer> epsy: preferably no windows opened at all
20:56 <BabyBug> luke-jr, no bzr
20:56 <@Lucifer> is it a fresh checkout?
20:56 <@Lucifer> or one that you've updated a lot?
20:57 <epsy> well, there's a commandline tool for unzipping, right?
20:57 <luke-jr> BabyBug: open batch/make/version for editing
20:57 <luke-jr> BabyBug: insert at line 2: set -x
20:57 <PinkTomato> z-man said stuff afterwards that I didn't understand regarding subversion
20:57 <luke-jr> BabyBug: actually, just uncomment the one already there
20:57 <@Lucifer> that's because he's a subversive
20:57 <BabyBug> luke-jr, it isn't already there...
20:57 <luke-jr> BabyBug: line 5
20:58 <BabyBug> srcdir="$1"
20:58 <BabyBug> that's line 5
20:58 <luke-jr> wtf
20:58 <Janowar> epsy: yes, but I was trying to use it as a test package for remote software distrobution, rather than finding something ungainly.
20:58 <luke-jr> ok, insert it then: set -x
20:58 <BabyBug> then try bootstrap?
20:58 <@Lucifer> wah, I'm getting mostly girls responding to my TWG post
20:58 <luke-jr> BabyBug: then batch/make/version $PWD
20:59 <BabyBug> incoming spam...
20:59 <BabyBug> + srcdir=/home/richie/armagetron/armagetronad
20:59 <BabyBug> + cat /home/richie/armagetron/armagetronad/major_version
20:59 <BabyBug> + major_version=0.3
20:59 <BabyBug> + date +%Y%m%d
20:59 <BabyBug> + DATE=20090102
20:59 <luke-jr> NO
20:59 <BabyBug> + test -d /home/richie/armagetron/armagetronad/CVS
20:59 <luke-jr> OMFG
20:59 <BabyBug> + test -d /home/richie/armagetron/armagetronad/.svn
20:59 <luke-jr> DO NOT PASTE IT HERE
20:59 <luke-jr> IDIOT
20:59 <BabyBug> + bzr
20:59 <BabyBug> + test 1 -eq 0
20:59 <BabyBug> + test !
20:59 <BabyBug> Segmentation fault
20:59 <PinkTomato> PasteBin!
20:59 <BabyBug> oh
20:59 <@Lucifer> Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys
20:59 <BabyBug> LOL
20:59 <BabyBug> It wasn't that many lines ><
20:59 <BabyBug> It's not like there was a 100
20:59 <BabyBug> zeesh don't throw a fit!
20:59 <epsy> it doesn't like the !
20:59 * BabyBug uses pastebinit from now on ><
20:59 <luke-jr> BabyBug: sh --version
21:00 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-work/revision/965
21:00 <epsy> and yeah, zman fixed that
21:00 <BabyBug> luke-jr, sh: Illegal option --
21:00 <BabyBug> :s
21:01 <epsy> BabyBug, can you try this: /bin/bash -c 'test ! 1 -eq 0'
21:01 <luke-jr> epsy: wtf?
21:01 <luke-jr> I don't see the 'test !' anywhere
21:01 <epsy> that's what was causing the odd segv, last time
21:01 <epsy> BabyBug, trunk?
21:02 <BabyBug> epsy, yup
21:02 <luke-jr> BabyBug: update
21:02 <luke-jr> it must be old
21:02 <BabyBug> Tree is up to date at revision 741.
21:02 <epsy> r742 should fix it
21:02 <epsy> pull
21:02 <epsy> it
21:02 <epsy> Janowar, and now..?
21:02 <BabyBug> ok yup it's working now \o/
21:02 * epsy slaps BabyBug
21:03 <luke-jr> epsy: wife beater!
21:03 <BabyBug> it was 1 revision off ><
21:03 * luke-jr runs
21:03 <BabyBug> wife?!?!?!
21:03 <epsy> one revision which brought a merge
21:03 <@Lucifer> yeah, why would epsy want to marry a welsh lady?
21:04 <luke-jr> why would anyone want to marry BabyBug, I wonder?
21:04 <BabyBug> ..........
21:04 <BabyBug> Thanks...
21:04 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: sorry to bring this back up again, but what should line 4932 be?
21:04 <@Lucifer> because she's into light s&m ?
21:04 <luke-jr> LOL
21:04 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: svn diff?
21:05 <BabyBug> OK....Now why won't bloody configure find FTGl... *growls*
21:05 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: that command results in null
21:05 <epsy> BabyBug, it wont accept the RC anymore
21:05 <BabyBug> ......
21:05 <epsy> (since it doesnt work)
21:06 <BabyBug> it worked for custom connects!
21:06 <BabyBug> :@
21:06 <luke-jr> BabyBug: only until someone used a Latin-1 name
21:06 <epsy> well, you can still append the correct CXXFLAGS
21:06 <BabyBug> i hate you all
21:06 <epsy> and remove the macro
21:07 <epsy> or just revert the revision that disallowed it
21:07 <epsy> which was revision..
21:07 <@Lucifer> you won't hate me after you see my fuzzy handcuffs
21:07 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: you must be compiling the same trunk ?
21:07 <@Lucifer> (note to self: buy fuzzy handcuffs)
21:07 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: has it worked?
21:07 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, mines working now yeh
21:07 <BabyBug> Lucifer, how old are again?
21:08 <epsy> ..I don't know what revision, bzr.lp just went down
21:08 * Lucifer falls asleep, 'night!
21:08 <BabyBug> ! ><
21:08 <epsy> fail
21:08 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Make working or done?
21:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8724 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/language/polish.txt: missing newlines
21:08 <epsy> kick it kick it
21:08 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, i can't configure because of my FTGL version
21:08 <BabyBug> so i cant test that far
21:09 <PinkTomato> Oh! /me forgot to read
21:09 <PinkTomato> sorry
21:09 <epsy> grm
21:09 * BabyBug scowls at Lucifer
21:09 <luke-jr> epsy: gg
21:10 <luke-jr> BabyBug: Lucifer is 58
21:10 * Lucifer scowls back
21:10 <BabyBug> liar
21:10 <luke-jr> :þ
21:10 <epsy> that was a taunt, not some random abbreviation
21:10 <BabyBug> Lucifer, how old are yooooooooh :P
21:10 <@Lucifer> yeah, I just ha da birthday, now I'm 59
21:10 <BabyBug> ...
21:10 <@Lucifer> #math calc 34*7
21:10 <@armabot> Lucifer: 238
21:11 <@Lucifer> I'm 238 in dog years
21:11 <luke-jr> :þ
21:11 <BabyBug> you're 34?! ewwww keep your fuzzy handcuffs !
21:11 <akira_arma> ???
21:11 <@Lucifer> heh
21:11 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I'm 23.
21:11 <akira_arma> #math 34/7
21:11 <epsy> erm
21:11 <akira_arma> #math calc 34/7
21:11 <epsy> BabyBug, I'm lost
21:11 <luke-jr> epsy is 92
21:12 <BabyBug> luke-jr, still too old for me :P
21:12 <akira_arma> you have too divide by 7 lucifer..
21:12 <@armabot> akira_arma: 4.85714285714
21:12 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I see why your name is Baby.
21:12 <BabyBug> epsy, lost about what?
21:12 <@Lucifer> oh yeah, heh
21:12 <BabyBug> ><
21:12 <epsy> finding the revision which changed the ftgl check
21:12 <@Lucifer> I'm about 5 in dog years :)
21:12 <BabyBug> oh
21:12 <BabyBug> lol
21:13 <epsy> but well, considering I'm on the wrong branch, it may explain stuff
21:13 <@Lucifer> he's on the gay pair-eeee branch
21:13 <BabyBug> So branch is what the old folks call it? ;)
21:14 <@Lucifer> I don't know, I haven't talked to any old people about SCM
21:14 <BabyBug> *face palms*
21:14 <BabyBug> You're almost double my age...So to me you're old :P
21:14 <luke-jr> BabyBug: you're 16⁈
21:15 <BabyBug> almost luke-jr
21:15 <BabyBug> I'm 18
21:15 <@Lucifer> 18, but she lies
21:15 <PinkTomato> what should line eplayer.cpp:4932 be?
21:15 <luke-jr> holy crap
21:15 <BabyBug> ?
21:15 <luke-jr> I'm 7 years past 18
21:15 <epsy> where and when?
21:15 <@Lucifer> and according to xkcd, my minimum dating age iis 24 anyway
21:15 <luke-jr> just realized that
21:15 <luke-jr> sweet, Lucifer can't try to date me
21:15 <epsy> Lucifer, where's that one already?
21:16 <BabyBug> luke-jr, 23 - 18 = 5 not 7......
21:16 <epsy> he can
21:16 <epsy> LOL
21:16 <@Lucifer> heh, it's fairly recent
21:16 <luke-jr> BabyBug: oh, right, that's a little better
21:16 <epsy> god, and I'm not talking about luke's
21:16 <BabyBug> > 4 years is still old though
21:16 <luke-jr> sigh, I feel old ☹
21:16 <BabyBug> your are hunni xx
21:17 <BabyBug> you*
21:17 <luke-jr> wtf does that mean
21:17 <PinkTomato> better than feeling like a baby
21:17 <luke-jr> even with that correction it makes no sense
21:17 * Lizmatic growls
21:17 <BabyBug> of course it makes sense..
21:17 <BabyBug> It means you are old...
21:17 <luke-jr> sigh
21:17 <BabyBug> how does that not make sense?!
21:17 <luke-jr> wtf is hunni xx
21:18 <PinkTomato> Honey
21:18 <BabyBug> hunni is a nickname i call lots of people and xx are two kisses :P
21:18 <luke-jr> I don't even eat honey
21:18 <luke-jr> BabyBug: next time try 'u r'
21:18 <BabyBug> luke-jr, I'm not a freak
21:19 <BabyBug> freaks that can't spell says things like "u r"
21:19 <luke-jr> r so
21:19 <epsy> if you're 12 your minimum dating age is 13, but if you're 13 your minimum dating age is 13.5
21:19 <epsy> poor ivantis
21:20 <@Lucifer> er, I'm not finding it
21:20 <epsy> so, let's take it reverse and compute my max dating age
21:20 <epsy> http://xkcd.com/314/
21:21 <@Lucifer> aha, there it is
21:21 <@Lucifer> that makes my max dating age 44
21:21 <@Lucifer> so, 24-44
21:21 <epsy> 18, ah shit
21:21 <epsy> damn BabyBug
21:21 <@Lucifer> haha, my dating pool is bigger than yours :)
21:21 <BabyBug> epsy?
21:21 <epsy> I said nothing.
21:22 <BabyBug> <epsy> damn BabyBug
21:22 <BabyBug> ?
21:22 <@Lucifer> poor Babybug, her dating pool is only 17-19
21:22 <BabyBug> Lucifer, 17 - 22 actually!
21:22 <@Lucifer> er, wait a minute, that's not the one with the formula in it, it's just the graph
21:22 <BabyBug> 16 if they're female :P
21:22 <@Lucifer> oh nvm, yeah, it's there
21:22 <PinkTomato> what :s
21:23 <epsy> I just gave her min dating age
21:23 <PinkTomato> why would be it 17? 18/2+7=16
21:23 <@Lucifer> minimum dating age = (your_age/2) + 7
21:23 <@Lucifer> oh right
21:23 <@Lucifer> ok, 16-20 then
21:23 <epsy> woops
21:23 <@Lucifer> but see, there's a problem with that
21:23 <Janowar> mine is 18-30
21:23 <@Lucifer> take the 24 year old I could date
21:24 <@Lucifer> her dating range is 19-29
21:24 <@Lucifer> and I'm outside of it
21:24 <PinkTomato> how do you work out the max though?
21:24 <@Lucifer> your_age - minimum + your_age
21:24 <Janowar> work in reverse, find the oldest that has you in their dating range
21:25 <@Lucifer> ahhh, so actual dating range might be different, I need to find the youngest that has me in her dating range
21:25 <Janowar> lucifer: it should be 2(your_age - 7)
21:25 <@Lucifer> for youngest or oldest?
21:25 <@Lucifer> #math calc 2*(34-7)
21:25 <@armabot> Lucifer: 54
21:25 <Janowar> for oldest
21:26 <epsy> for max
21:26 <@Lucifer> hey, I can date my neighbor
21:26 <@Lucifer> (she's really hot, but cranky, and 53)
21:26 <luke-jr> #math calc (23/2) + 7
21:26 <@armabot> luke-jr: 18.5
21:26 <epsy> woops, it is even smaller
21:26 <luke-jr> #math calc 2*(23-7)
21:26 <Janowar> min:( your_age/2) + 7 max: 2(your_age - 7)
21:26 <@armabot> luke-jr: 32
21:26 <BabyBug> luke-jr, are you really 23?
21:26 <epsy> 14.5-16
21:26 <@Lucifer> oh I see, ok, I get it
21:26 <luke-jr> BabyBug: yes
21:27 <epsy> let's spice it up with months
21:27 <@Lucifer> so I can date 24, that makes sense now
21:27 <@Lucifer> holy crap, 24-54
21:27 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: you're old and a dad, you're not allowed to date anymore
21:27 <PinkTomato> Lucifer Min age == 24 && 24 year old == OK, 24 year old == 19 O
21:27 <@Lucifer> Lizmatic: you're wrong on two counts
21:27 <PinkTomato> K
21:27 <PinkTomato> so no conflict?
21:28 <Corn> i wouldnt want to date someone that is 54 and single
21:28 <@Lucifer> what if she was really hot?
21:28 <PinkTomato> what about 54 and not single?
21:28 <Corn> thats risque
21:28 <Corn> like desperate house wives without the mexicans
21:28 <@Lucifer> hey, if she's 54, she lived through the sexual revolution
21:29 <@Lucifer> she probably knows things you can't even imagine
21:29 <@Lucifer> hell yeah I'd tap that!
21:29 <Corn> that i dont want to imagine from a 54 yearold doing it
21:29 <@Lucifer> I've seen lots of very beautiful women over 50
21:29 <PinkTomato> but you already have
21:29 <Corn> She could have cancer for all i know
21:29 <@Lucifer> and I say that not because I'm a freak, but because it's true
21:30 <@Lucifer> what's wrong with screwing a woman with cancer?
21:30 <PinkTomato> any person could have cancer
21:30 <Lizmatic> women over 20 aren't beautiful
21:30 <Lizmatic> don't be silly
21:30 <Corn> the hair falls out
21:30 <Janowar> only from kemo
21:30 <@Lucifer> it's not cancer that does that
21:30 <PinkTomato> thats not going to happy during sex
21:30 <Janowar> thats not the only treatment
21:30 <PinkTomato> happen*
21:30 <Corn> most cancer patients do kemo
21:30 <@Lucifer> even if it does, what does it matter?
21:30 <@Lucifer> your hair falls out too
21:30 <@Lucifer> ever have a woman complain about pubes in her teeth?
21:31 <BabyBug> a guy shouldn't have pubes!
21:31 <Corn> have you?
21:31 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: what will you do after the age of 20?
21:31 <@Lucifer> yes, first complaint was when I was 18, and then they were pretty steady until recently
21:31 <epsy> so, normalized, my dating age goes from 14.75704225352112676056 to 17.02816901408450704224, with, apparently, a precision up to 10e-20
21:31 <Janowar> babybug: girls shouldt either, but the world isnt perfect
21:31 <@Lucifer> holy shit, epsy
21:31 <@Lucifer> you did *not* use that many sig figs for your age, did you?
21:32 <BabyBug> Janowar, most girls don't =P
21:32 <epsy> I did not include hours
21:32 <Janowar> true
21:32 <@Lucifer> you included days, though?
21:32 <Corn> if the boy shaves and the girl doesnt then its like the bob saget joke
21:32 <epsy> so that's not a 10e-20 precision
21:32 <@Lucifer> no, you've got too many decimal places
21:32 <@Lucifer> including years, months, and days is only 3 sig figs, iirc
21:32 <epsy> rather 355e-1
21:32 <epsy> rather 355^-1 *
21:33 <@Lucifer> ah
21:33 <BabyBug> Corn, shaves? nuuuuuu, use wax!
21:33 <epsy> but I haven't been counting leap years, damned
21:33 <@Lucifer> ok, that makes it 4 sig figs
21:33 <@Lucifer> you don't have to count leap years
21:33 <epsy> you'd better use days for this
21:33 <@Lucifer> the denominator only applies to the year most recent
21:34 <@Lucifer> and the year counts from your birthday
21:34 <Corn> When was the last leap year? 2006?
21:34 <@Lucifer> 2008 dipshit
21:34 <Corn> like i would know
21:34 <@Lucifer> it was last year!
21:34 <epsy> leap years can be divided by 4
21:34 <Corn> why do you remember that crap
21:34 <@Lucifer> well, I had to encode the algorithm into a program
21:35 <@Lucifer> epsy: unless the year is also divisible by 400
21:35 <@Lucifer> or wait
21:35 <epsy> crap, so 200 isn't leap?
21:35 <@Lucifer> maybe it's unless the year is also divisible by 100, but also if the year is divisible by 400
21:35 <Lizmatic> PinkTomato: why?
21:35 <Corn> every 100 years that collide with a leap year there is no leap iirc
21:35 <epsy> 2000 *
21:35 <@Lucifer> I don't remember if 2000 was a leap year or not
21:36 <epsy> so I encountered 3 leap years in my life
21:36 <Janowar> why is that? if its every 4 years, the hundres shouldnt matter?
21:36 <@Lucifer> how many leap years are you going to include in the constant?
21:37 <@Lucifer> Janowar: because 2000 is divisible by both 100 and 400
21:37 <@Lucifer> and epsy was born before 2000
21:37 <Corn> so its a double cancel?
21:37 <Corn> are you positive
21:37 <epsy> holy shit months
21:37 <PinkTomato> If Lizmatic is beautiful and is younger than 20, then Lizmatic is beautiful, but when Lizmatic is over 20, then Lizmatic cannot be beautiful, by your logic.
21:37 <@Lucifer> see, he's trying to use his age in days to compute his minimum dating range to high precision, which thus ensures he'll never actually get a date
21:37 <epsy> PinkTomato, and if she is 20 ??
21:38 <@Lucifer> PinkTomato: doesn't matter, because by her logic she can't date anyway
21:38 <@Lucifer> (has a kid)
21:38 <Janowar> following the xkcd comic, somewhere on the edge of the bell curve is the girl for him
21:38 <teabot> armablah: Ubuntu Linux » Blog Archive » [ubuntu] Armagetron problem <http://ubuntu.linuxguru.co.uk/ubuntu-armagetron-problem-2/1997/>
21:38 <@Lucifer> and being beautiful only matters if you try to date
21:38 <Corn> i think cancer affects your dating range
21:38 <Corn> effects*
21:38 <epsy> I wonder if I can exclude some sites from that search..
21:38 <@Lucifer> Corn: no, it just widens the group of people that are idiotic bigots that you won't date
21:39 <Lizmatic> PinkTomato: so what?
21:39 <Corn> What stops a cancer patient from dating a bigot
21:39 <@Lucifer> the bigot hates them?
21:39 <@Lucifer> more importantly, what's wrong with dating a cancer patient?
21:40 <Corn> on the contrary
21:41 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: If you accept that, then good on you ;)
21:41 <epsy> how do I use modulo on bc? :s
21:41 <@Lucifer> on bc?
21:41 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Lizmatic is already fugly though, so her age doesn't matter
21:41 <BabyBug> :D
21:41 <Lizmatic> o_O
21:42 <@Lucifer> yeah, she's a girl, in irc
21:42 <Corn> arent there 2 lizmatics?
21:42 * Lizmatic sighs
21:42 <@Lucifer> so by definition, she's either fugly, or an old man pretending to be a hot young lesbian
21:42 <@Lucifer> either way, Corn would tap that
21:42 <epsy> Lucifer, yeah, GNU bc
21:42 <epsy> calculator
21:42 <Lizmatic> why would there be 2 lizmatics? moron
21:42 <@Lucifer> epsy: I don't know what bc is
21:42 <@Lucifer> ahhhh, I use python as my calculator
21:42 <@Lucifer> and have to look up modulo anyway
21:42 <Corn> Lizmatic transforms into Bitchmatic
21:43 <Lizmatic> Lucifer: i'm a fugly straight girl =P
21:43 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic is confrontational, A note that I shall remeber
21:43 <Lizmatic> pregnant, hormones.. shut it or i'll kill you.
21:43 <epsy> php has it as %
21:43 <@Lucifer> oooo, pregnant is really hot
21:43 <BabyBug> ewwww Lucifer is a fetishist
21:43 <@Lucifer> no, just been with a pregnant woman
21:44 <@Lucifer> hormones, good
21:44 <@Lucifer> if you catch her in an "I love men" stage, of course
21:44 <@Lucifer> if she's currently hating men....
21:44 <@Lucifer> well, where's my fuzzy handcuffs?
21:44 <Lizmatic> I'm currently hating everyone
21:44 <Lizmatic> xD
21:44 <BabyBug> Except me!!
21:44 <luke-jr> Lucifer: chasteberry is useful
21:44 <epsy> EXCEPT in bed
21:44 <@Lucifer> wait, how does a lesbian get pregnant?
21:44 <Lizmatic> yes, I love BabyBug in a straight girl way
21:45 <@Lucifer> haha epsy
21:45 <BabyBug> Lucifer, clinics
21:45 <PinkTomato> with sperm
21:45 <Corn> Fake lesbians... :/
21:45 * Lizmatic isn't a lesbian o_O
21:45 <Lizmatic> www.myspace.com/whengodhatesu
21:45 <Lizmatic> no lesbian
21:45 <Lizmatic> =)
21:45 <@Lucifer> do I really want to click on that link?
21:45 <epsy> (the myspace profile field as a proof)
21:45 <PinkTomato> :)
21:45 <BabyBug> You're myspace also says you live in Italy
21:45 <Lizmatic> epsy: the default pic actually..
21:45 <BabyBug> your*
21:45 <Lizmatic> I live in italy......sometimes
21:46 <BabyBug> liar
21:46 <BabyBug> lol
21:46 <epsy> haha
21:46 <Lizmatic> lolol
21:46 <@Lucifer> that reminds me, women with myspace pages aren't in my dating pool
21:46 <Lizmatic> whateva, pic + profile field = TRUTH
21:46 <epsy> Humeur : cafardeux
21:46 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i don't have a myspace!
21:46 <Corn> italy has a lot of pregnant lesbians from what i hear.
21:46 <epsy> #t fr en cafardeux
21:46 <@armabot> epsy: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
21:46 <@Lucifer> look at this girl
21:46 * Lizmatic growls at BabyBug
21:46 <@Lucifer> half the time I'm too old, the other half I'm totally desirable
21:46 <epsy> "cafardeux" just makes me think of insects
21:47 * BabyBug scowls at Lizmatic
21:47 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you're just so damn sexy!
21:47 * Lizmatic growls more
21:47 <BabyBug> xD
21:47 <Corn> Luci has that mullet thing going for him or whatever it is
21:47 * Lucifer doesn't have a mullet
21:47 <Lizmatic> oh thats really you in your avatar Lucifer?
21:48 <Lizmatic> I thought you ripped that from a hells angels website or something
21:48 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i've decided old is the new sexy
21:48 <@Lucifer> yeah, that's really me
21:48 <@Lucifer> but I changed my avatar a few days ago
21:48 <Corn> If its not a mullet what is it called
21:48 <@Lucifer> I also got a hair cut a couple of months ago
21:48 <PinkTomato> we can't see your face any more
21:48 <@Lucifer> Corn: long hair?
21:49 <@Lucifer> a mullet is short on the front and sides and long in the back
21:49 <@Lucifer> my hair used to be long all over, and now it's short all over
21:49 <Corn> so its kind of a lions mane type of thing right?
21:49 <luke-jr> my wife says I need a haircut :o
21:49 <@Lucifer> yes, that's right, lion's mane type of thing
21:49 <Lizmatic> luke-jr: what else do your imaginary friends tell you? xD
21:49 <@Lucifer> I could touch my nipples with my bangs
21:49 <luke-jr> Lizmatic: f u
21:50 <Lizmatic> :D
21:50 <@Lucifer> but I went and got a haircut back in Septemberish, so it's short all the way around right now
21:50 <Corn> note: never tell people you can touch your nipples with your bangs
21:50 <@Lucifer> I've almost got the goatee back, though ;)
21:50 <@Lucifer> why?
21:50 <@Lucifer> that either tells them I've got really long hair, or I'm really fat
21:50 <Lizmatic> this convo is too amusing.. weirdo's xD
21:51 <Corn> maybe its a good thing depends on what kind of people your chasing after
21:52 <@Lucifer> to be quite honest, I'm generally attracted to women with piercings, for some reason
21:52 <@Lucifer> piercings yes, tattoos no
21:52 <Corn> who even uses myspace anymore after the pedobear invaded
21:52 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i have a belly piecing!
21:52 <@Lucifer> not goths, not emos, but still in that same vein
21:52 <@Lucifer> (I just can't stand the goth/emo attitudes, but goth chicks are freaking hot)
21:52 <@Lucifer> (even fat goth chicks are hot)
21:53 <Corn> how about fat goth men that you cant tell if they're girls or boys
21:53 <@Lucifer> if I can't tell, does it matter?
21:53 <Corn> im pretty sure it does
21:53 <@Lucifer> I can't see why
21:55 <Corn> i think that killed the convo
21:56 <@Lucifer> no, we're just waiting for BabyBug to show us a picture of her belly piecing
21:56 <@Lucifer> we've all seen piercings, but a piecing is something new
21:56 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you can't have pictures of belly dancing...
21:56 <BabyBug> How would you know i'm belly dancing?
21:56 <BabyBug> lol
21:56 * Lizmatic has pictures of BabyBugs belly piercing
21:56 <@Lucifer> <BabyBug> Lucifer, i have a belly piecing!
21:57 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, I was in the bath! You can't belly dance in the bath ><
21:57 <Lizmatic> of course you can
21:57 <Corn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3L8sLbfCPs&NR=1 this dude can probably touch his nipples with his bangs
21:57 <BabyBug> no Lizmatic i can't =P
21:57 <BabyBug> It's
21:57 <BabyBug> oops
21:58 <BabyBug> damn enter button
21:58 <BabyBug> it's too slidey! :P
21:58 <@Lucifer> no, that guy has a mullet
21:58 <epsy> BabyBug, then when you fall it can go to youtube instead
21:58 <BabyBug> lol
21:59 <@Lucifer> Cornn must be male,, he doesn't know what bangs are
22:00 <BabyBug> epsy, a picture wouldn't capture the fall \o/
22:00 <epsy> do you often publish pictures on youtube?
22:00 <BabyBug> no..
22:00 <BabyBug> i never do
22:00 <epsy> right
22:00 <@Lucifer> no, but it would capture the look on your face right when you realize you're falling
22:00 * BabyBug smacks Lucifer
22:00 <@Lucifer> I think epsy was offering you a pair of fuzzy handcuffs in exchange for a video on youtube of you falling in the bathtub
22:00 <epsy> lol
22:01 * BabyBug has enough fuzzy handcuffs tyvm =P
22:01 <Corn> bathtub + furry handcuffs
22:01 <Corn> = bondage drowning
22:02 <@Lucifer> Corn, just shut up. Every time you talk, everybody stops talking.
22:02 * BabyBug agrees
22:03 <BabyBug> /kick Corn BYE!
22:03 <epsy> #capability list BabyBug
22:03 <@armabot> epsy: (capability list [<channel>]) -- Returns the capabilities present on the <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
22:03 <@Lucifer> oh well, I'm going to bed anyway
22:03 <BabyBug> night Lucifer
22:03 <Corn> dont let the babybugs bite
22:03 <BabyBug> or do...depending on how horny ya feeling =D
22:08 <Corn> see it wasnt me this time
22:14 * BabyBug <3's everyone except Lizmatic
22:14 <epsy> EXCEPT IN BED
22:14 <BabyBug> ESPECIALLY IN BED
22:18 <Lizmatic> =/
22:18 * Lizmatic goes to bed, totally depressed
22:18 <BabyBug> =P
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23:48 <Corn> .tea
23:49 <Corn> #armaservers
23:49 <@armabot> Corn: This data is 6 seconds old; Fortress Café (12/32), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (10/14), Wild West =CTF Shooting= (8/10), Best Server Ever (CTF) (7/8), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), Wild West =Team Sumo= (6/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (6/10), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (6/16), The YELLOW (1 more message)
23:50 <Corn> Does anyone know the address for Fortress Cafe with custom connect
23:52 <Corn> or a way to find out
23:56 <Corn> #ping
23:56 <@armabot> pong
23:57 <BabyBug> Corn, armagetron.at 4539
23:58 <Corn> thanks
Log from 2009-01-03:
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00:06 <Corn> 1337 ping thats an accomplishment if anything
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00:12 <epsy> Corn:
00:12 <epsy> @sd -v cafe
00:12 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090102 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (10/32): %|% Corn, ( (P4@crazy-tronners.com), catberg, CTT_speed, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member), Ju 87, LoRdVaDeR, nate, TheDiff, ~|DS|~ Judders
00:12 <epsy> note the -v
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00:13 <BabyBug> ca
00:13 <BabyBug> cafe crash?
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00:14 <Corn> #armaservers
00:14 <@armabot> Corn: This data is 3 seconds old; -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (10/14), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (8/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8/10), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), Wild West =Team Sumo= (6/14), Fortress Café (6/32), Best Server Ever (CTF) (5/8), Swampland Mud Puddle (1 more message)
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00:15 <Corn> i might of crashed it due to my obscene ping if so sorry
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00:26 <epsy> BabyBug, I am still connected
00:27 <epsy> I was
00:27 <epsy> (I just left)
00:27 <BabyBug> ?
00:28 <epsy> [23:13] <BabyBug>: cafe crash?
00:28 <BabyBug> =\
00:30 <epsy> Jan 03 00:14:22 [0] User 15 timed out.
00:30 <epsy> Jan 03 00:14:22 [15] BabyBug left Team blue.
00:30 <epsy> Jan 03 00:14:22 [15] Killing user 15, ping 0.0696892.
00:34 <epsy> z-man, right, I now tried 3 times to post about this, with no success..
00:35 <z-man> Well, he timed out. Nothing we can diagnose without recordings from both client and server.
00:36 <z-man> Sometimes it just happens that packets get lost over and over in the network itself.
00:36 <epsy> z-man, er no, it's not about BabyBug, it's about build-tagging
00:36 <BabyBug> and it's she*... *cough*
00:36 <z-man> oh.
00:36 <epsy> or whatever you call what shows up when armagetronad is prompted with --version
00:36 <z-man> to both of you :)
00:37 <z-man> epsy: what about it?
00:37 <luke-jr> back to the problem of gettign Svn rev info into Bzr?
00:37 <epsy> I'd like to propose this format:
00:37 <z-man> luke-jr: no, we won't get the svn revision into bzr.
00:38 <luke-jr> z-man: alpha #s are based on that info
00:38 <epsy> Unmodified(=empty diff + not diverged):
00:38 <epsy> ${branchNick}_alpha_r${revno}
00:38 <epsy> Unmodified + tagged:
00:39 <epsy> ${branchNick}_alpha_r${revno}_${tag}
00:39 <z-man> luke-jr: that's how we handled it so far. No harm in using bzr revisions instead, if it's properly marked.
00:39 <Corn> #echo test
00:39 <luke-jr> z-man: bzr rev numbers are meaningless
00:39 <@armabot> test
00:39 <epsy> Modified, or diverged:
00:39 <z-man> umm, the branch nick is determined locally.
00:39 <z-man> luke-jr: that's why epsy is proposing all that additional info.
00:39 <luke-jr> epsy also seems to miss the point that tags are unique, so ${tag} by itself is for a tagged one
00:39 <epsy> ${branchNick}_alpha_r${revno}_${buildDate}
00:40 <luke-jr> z-man: what additioal info?
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00:40 <epsy> now to the explanations..
00:40 <luke-jr> z-man: ${branchNick}_alpha${revno} is what we have right now
00:40 <luke-jr> but it only makes sense with svn
00:40 <z-man> shut up for a moment and let him explain, will you?
00:40 <epsy> 1/ tags being shows after revision:
00:40 <luke-jr> he did a few days ago ☺
00:41 <epsy> first off, tags in bzr seem to be way easier to handle than with svn
00:41 <z-man> not to me :)
00:41 <epsy> so I can expect people to use it more often, and not only for releases
00:41 * luke-jr coughs… tags in svn are trivial one-liners
00:41 <epsy> mainly to keep order sane on aabeta and elsewhere, i'd keep it to a suffix
00:42 <z-man> luke-jr: please, please stfu for a bit
00:42 <z-man> yeah, the version IDs in filenames need to be short.
00:43 <z-man> the "how the hell do I fetch the exact source of this build?" info can be long and can be included in the release.
00:43 <epsy> 2. branch nicks are not versionned, and that prevents merging a release series into another one accidentally
00:43 <epsy> (unlike one could currently do)
00:43 <epsy> but the problem is, indeed, that there will be trouble determining a sane branch nick
00:44 <epsy> (ie. we do not want trunk-armagetronad-work_alpha_r800
00:44 <z-man> well, we already have the major version number directly in the source, because indeed we have the same problem already.
00:44 <epsy> so yeah, that's why I didn't put that in already
00:44 <epsy> and well, that's where the superproject could help
00:45 <epsy> aand there was a third thing I now forgot about
00:45 <z-man> also, how does the build know whether a branch has been modified relative to the current official state?
00:45 <epsy> ah, yeah, that thing
00:46 <epsy> there's the bzr missing command, but it wont work if the branch's parent is not set properly
00:46 <epsy> if I remember correctly, what we should do is to only do that if tree is NOT a checkout
00:47 <z-man> Well, can't do a proper release if the pull location is not one of our official branches.
00:47 <epsy> (ie. if it's not bound)
00:47 <z-man> and the pull location is echoed by "bzr missing".
00:47 <epsy> otherwise, I *think* parent branch is set when branching
00:48 <epsy> well, yeah, but there still needs to be something that understands what is official branches or not
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00:48 <epsy> (branch nicks may help here)
00:49 <epsy> also, bzr missing returns 1 when branches diverged and 0 when they didn't, so we don't really have to parse the output
00:49 <epsy> except maybe for checking parent branch location
00:50 <epsy> but this should be done properly, ie. with the command to fetch branch metadata
00:50 <z-man> right now, everything starting with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/ would be official, I'd say.
00:50 <epsy> yes
00:50 <epsy> for the rest, we can just assume parent branch is right
00:51 <epsy> or we should use pull branch, if available
00:51 <z-man> Oh yeah, for fetching the exact source, just log the revision ID (the long internal one, not the number) somewhere. Those are unique.
00:52 <epsy> yeah, but that probably just can't fit in version
00:52 <z-man> No :) And it doesn't sort.
00:52 <epsy> it might find it's place along compiler options, and such, under some sort of build environnement thingy
00:53 <z-man> As I said, we have two problems: 1. get nice short build names with ascending numbers and 2. get back the source of a build.
00:53 <epsy> yep
00:53 <epsy> well, or know you can't get the source
00:53 <z-man> the revision ID completely solves 2. It even works even after merging.
00:54 <luke-jr> z-man: bzr has a long revision ID⁇
00:54 <luke-jr> nice
00:55 <epsy> not really available to someone external to the server staff, if we throw it along server build options
00:55 <luke-jr> sigh
00:55 <luke-jr> why don't we have every build include a MD5 of each source file, along with a MD5 of all those MD5s?
00:56 <luke-jr> then it's SCM-independent
00:56 <luke-jr> :þ
00:56 <z-man> just for a bit, I'm /ignoring luke. I'll /unignore him later.
00:56 <luke-jr> pfft
00:56 <luke-jr> I'm leaving now anyway
00:56 <z-man> We can add a /version chat command, how about that?
00:57 <z-man> The client could list the revision ID and other extended build info in the about page. I forgot what's already there :)
00:57 <epsy> wasn't there an exploit related to one specific compiler?
00:57 <epsy> well, /help version ?
00:57 <epsy> sounds more appropriate
00:57 <z-man> right.
00:58 <z-man> exploit?
00:58 <epsy> I told you not to use PGCC.
00:58 <epsy> or was it another one
00:58 <z-man> Ah, that :) Yes.
00:58 <z-man> Exceptions didn't work properly in PGCC.
00:59 <z-man> But PGCC is dead (well, merged into GCC) anyway and outdated, so no worries there any more.
00:59 <epsy> or you mean having version just contain some info on the source, but not build environnement info?
01:00 <z-man> We can't get all the build environment info there anyway. It's just too huge.
01:00 <epsy> yeah
01:00 <z-man> Plus, there's unlikely to be a big difference in the general outcome, so in those cases where there are relevant differences in build environments, we can just ask about them.
01:01 <z-man> Automating that is going to be more work than it saves us :)
01:01 <epsy> right
01:01 <z-man> (You can bet that we'll be omitting the one bit that matters anyway)
01:01 <epsy> heck yeah
01:02 <z-man> There's a small problem with using revision numbers to tag releases.
01:02 <z-man> (unignoring luke-jr here)
01:02 <z-man> They're not ascending in all cases.
01:02 <z-man> Say I go to a desert Island and commit 10 revisions there.
01:03 <z-man> I come back and while I was away, you committed 100 and pused them up.
01:03 <epsy> yeah, so diverged should be different
01:03 <z-man> I merge the official branch into my work branch and push the result.
01:03 <z-man> Tata, last revision ID goes down by 91.
01:04 <z-man> (Of course, then comes bazaarmagetron and reverses my merge, pushing the revision ID back up.)
01:04 <epsy> er wait
01:04 <epsy> yeah
01:05 <z-man> We could combat that problem even without bazaarmagetron with merge policies.
01:05 <z-man> It's always nicer to merge into a public branch than to merge from it, then push the result anyway.
01:05 <epsy> ${branchNick}_alpha_r${lca}_r{revno}
01:06 <epsy> (lca meaning last common ancestor)
01:06 <epsy> it's confusing but isn't DVCS confusing already?
01:06 <epsy> :)
01:06 <z-man> Or we could simly just tag versions by date again.
01:07 <epsy> yeah, and use lca instead of revno
01:07 <epsy> better, indeed
01:07 <z-man> I don't think you can find the lca locally, really.
01:08 <epsy> yeah, that's the thing I fear
01:08 <z-man> It's only known to the branch actively doing the merging, the regular work branches and their copies on LP don't know.
01:08 <epsy> but well, who's gonna see it, if the machine's cut off from the internet?
01:11 <epsy> I would need to check what bzr returns when cut from network, heh
01:11 <z-man> Yeah :)
01:11 <epsy> and in that case, just have it with "local" or something, somewhere....
01:13 <z-man> Hey, you could count the number of unique revisions in the branch.
01:14 <epsy> not when it is cut off from network
01:14 <z-man> bzr log --show-ids | grep revision-id | sort -u | wc -l
01:14 <z-man> Yes you can :)
01:15 <z-man> That should be an always increasing number (after refining the grep, of course). Merged revisions are listed, too.
01:16 <epsy> that sorts by date
01:17 <epsy> I don't get what that command does, except counting present revisions
01:18 <z-man> yes, precisely :)
01:18 <z-man> That's a number that increases over time for every branch.
01:18 <epsy> just like revision numbers
01:19 <z-man> They're not guaranteed to be increasing over time.
01:19 <z-man> Not with pure bzr, anyway.
01:20 <epsy> oh, that would count merged revisions that are tracked by bzr
01:20 <z-man> Right.
01:21 <z-man> I hope.
01:21 <epsy> why would we need that?
01:21 <z-man> It would also count people writing revision_id into their commit message, of course :)
01:21 <z-man> We need that because version IDs need to properly sort.
01:22 <z-man> You can't release r50 today, develop a bit, then release r49.
01:23 <epsy> that gives a bit of an idea of how far one revision is far from one other (here from rev 1) but that's all I can deduce
01:23 <epsy> far still being very relative
01:24 <z-man> Of course, but it's just for the filename tags.
01:24 <z-man> Their prime mission is to be short and increasing over time.
01:24 <epsy> buildtags?
01:25 <z-man> whatever you want to call them.
01:25 <epsy> if you have a better name for them, I'm all ears
01:26 <z-man> tags implies tags in the source control, so maybe just "build ids".
01:26 <epsy> but uhm, I don't get what's the point of counting revids(which is pretty much the same as counting revnos that appear)
01:27 <z-man> They're easier to grep for, I think.
01:27 <z-man> We could just as well simply take the number of lines of "bzr log".
01:28 <epsy> well yeah
01:28 <epsy> oh I get what you mean with revision count
01:28 <epsy> right
01:30 <epsy> that wont count merged revisions
01:30 <z-man> Local modifications are a bit of a problem with any system.
01:30 <z-man> If we both decide to make a build with one local modification, the'yd produce the same filename.
01:31 <epsy> butit's labelled with a date, which means it was changed anyway
01:32 <z-man> Hmm, right.
01:32 <epsy> (label sounds good, doesn't it?)
01:32 <z-man> yep.
01:33 <epsy> so yeah, we still keep on revno?
01:34 <z-man> no. just $(bzr log --short | wc -l).
01:34 <z-man> Quick and dirty :)
01:35 <z-man> oh wait, no
01:35 <epsy> hm, problem with this, is that it's quite of a one way algorithm
01:35 <z-man> no --short. That culls merges.
01:35 <epsy> it's almost as usable as the md5 hash of a revno
01:36 <epsy> but keeps order sane..damn
01:36 <z-man> That wouldn't be increasing over time :)
01:36 <z-man> And really, just cram the revision ID somewhere so it can be retrieved once the build is unpacked.
01:37 <epsy> so in /help version and in ... --versioninfo ??
01:38 <z-man> Sure.
01:38 <epsy> what about revision number? while it doesnt sort properly, it still helps our human beings
01:43 <epsy> it's sad, bzr revno was so easy to use :)
01:43 <z-man> the extended version info can contain all the crap we want.
01:43 <z-man> Build date, bzr revno, builder, compiler version, whatever.
01:44 <z-man> anyway, bedtime.
01:44 <epsy> good night
01:49 * BabyBug waves
01:49 <ct|kyle> #ctwf
01:49 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (8/14): BotijoConRuedas, b°b°, Gnorty, MrChiCho, nogpin*, oGRy, pinnaple XPREZZ, [nc] jc.bot
01:49 <ct|kyle> I think more people like the old school now
01:50 <BabyBug> ?
01:50 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: have you been there this week
01:50 <BabyBug> yeh
01:50 <BabyBug> ?
01:51 <ct|kyle> it is old school
01:51 <BabyBug> what's the difference? :s
01:51 <ct|kyle> only 20 maps and with 7 players or less there is 32 axes chico
01:51 <BabyBug> ah
01:52 <ct|kyle> 19 rounds instead of 12
01:52 <ct|kyle> 10*
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01:57 <BabyBug> 32 axis suck.......
02:00 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: 32 axes is what it used to be, I pwn at it :)
02:00 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, it sucks
02:00 <ct|kyle> I really don't like 16
02:00 <ct|kyle> brake boos and 16 axes is what i don't like
02:00 <ct|kyle> boost*
02:01 <BabyBug> i dont like brake boost by 32 axis is too much =(
02:02 <BabyBug> i literally can't turn properly on it
02:02 <BabyBug> i stop pressing the buttons...but it's still turning ><
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03:14 <Sumoooo> Question: To make me admin on my server supporting authentication: What do I need?
03:14 <Sumoooo> Global_ID 1
03:14 <Sumoooo> What else?
03:14 <PinkTomato> and a server compiled with armathentication
03:14 <Sumoooo> Done :D
03:14 <Sumoooo> hey pink D:
03:14 <PinkTomato> hey Sumoooo :)
03:14 <Sumoooo> :D
03:15 <Sumoooo> whats the command for 1 admin 3 mod etc
03:15 <Sumoooo> i forgot
03:15 <PinkTomato> What do you mean?
03:15 <Sumoooo> Isnt there a command to make @name "#" that allows you admin?
03:15 <Sumoooo> when u login?
03:15 <PinkTomato> Oh how to make someone an administrator?
03:15 <Sumoooo> yah!
03:15 <Sumoooo> :D
03:16 <PinkTomato> #cfg USER_LEVEL
03:16 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
03:16 <PinkTomato> .cfg USER_LEVEL
03:16 <PinkTomato> tronner isn't here,
03:16 <Sumoooo> aww
03:16 <PinkTomato> anyway It's USER_LEVEL <<name>> <<level>> I think
03:17 <PinkTomato> the 3 important levels are 0,1 and 2
03:17 <PinkTomato> 0: Owner, 1:Administrator 2: Moderator
03:17 <BabyBug> When he says name he means.... Sumooo@forums for example...not just your arma name
03:18 <Sumoooo> i know :D thanks for the help you guys :D
03:18 <BabyBug> and gurls*
03:18 <PinkTomato> Ty BabyBug, I should have remebered that :)
03:18 <Sumoooo> and girl!
03:18 <Sumoooo> babybug! Kim PINE????
03:18 <BabyBug> Whut?
03:18 <PinkTomato> i'm sure its no problem :)
03:18 <Sumoooo> who is babybug... not too many gurls that play tron
03:18 <Sumoooo> xD
03:19 * BabyBug is BabyBug
03:19 <PinkTomato> BabyBug is BabyBug :)
03:19 <BabyBug> jinx!
03:19 <Sumoooo> :o
03:19 <BabyBug> lalalala
03:19 * PinkTomato mmm!
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03:25 * PinkTomato mumbles: "good night"
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03:40 <epsy> lalalalal
03:40 <BabyBug> lalalalaa
03:40 <epsy> trunk-eevents_alpha_n698_20090103
03:40 <epsy> now that's actually wrong
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03:41 <epsy> Sumoooo, the example config file will *always* remember
03:42 <Sumoooo> hahaha
03:42 <Sumoooo> i love u eps
03:42 <epsy> it's iiiinn.......tadaadadadada.....config/ !
03:42 <Sumoooo> hey, any way to make my global ID hidden without using that crappy buggy new client wrtl made?
03:42 <BabyBug> hey! that's mean
03:42 <Sumoooo> sorry! love much
03:43 <epsy> I agree we should lay off all of what's crap in armagetron to wrtlprnft
03:43 <epsy> well, you can use the alpha or build your own
03:43 <epsy> trunk-eevents_alpha_n707_20090103
03:43 <Sumoooo> otay
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03:45 <epsy> epsy@heidi trunk-armagetronad-eevent $ ../trunk/batch/make/version ../trunktrunk_alpha_n707_
03:45 <epsy> epsy@heidi trunk-armagetronad-eevent $ cd ../trunk
03:45 <epsy> epsy@heidi trunk $ ../trunk/batch/make/version .
03:45 <epsy> trunk_alpha_n742_
03:46 <epsy> first line are actually two lines
03:46 <epsy> but that's a little fuckt up
03:47 <epsy> woops, i forgot to specify directory in magic count
03:47 <epsy> or fool's number, whatever you call it
03:49 <BabyBug> epsy's number
03:49 <epsy> actually it's zman's
03:49 <epsy> i'll prefix it with z, it actually makes more sense than n
03:52 <epsy> darn I hate just basing myself on a program's stdout
03:53 <epsy> erm, please swap hate and just when reading
03:53 <BabyBug> :s
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04:39 <teabot> armablah: Tron for Peace <http://www.gregniemeyer.com/?p=45> || The Innovation Lover » GNU/Linux gamers, Cheers ! <http://www.sarathlakshman.info/2007/12/24/gnulinux-gamers-cheers/> || Arcade-style Multiplayer Games | Turing Uncomplete <http://blog.barrucadu.co.uk/2008/10/arcade-style-multiplayer-games/> || Software Packages in Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex", Subsection Games ... <http://ubuntuland.nireblog.com/post/2008/11/08/software-packages-in-ubun
04:43 <teabot> armablah: Armagetron Advanced <http://www.find-freebies.org/armagetron-advanced/> || Armagetron <http://free.macgames.jp/4230/armagetron/> || Viewing Pleasure <http://the-desert-is-coming.blogspot.com/2008/12/viewing-pleasure.html> || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A <http://vulnerabilities.aspcode.net/7989/Armagetron+0+2+6+0+and+earlier+and+Armagetron+A.aspx> || Open Source Software <http://mobile-trickz.blogspot.com/2008/11/open-sour
05:35 <epsy> guru3, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201720#201720
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06:28 <smoothice> luke-jr: Got a VPS and everything is working great for $10 a month
06:29 <smoothice> luke-jr: :D
06:30 <ivantis2> where you can have any amount of players, proving luke-jr's service is a rip off
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06:37 <luke-jr> smoothice: pfft
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06:38 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:38 <Lucifer> #ping
06:38 <@armabot> pong
06:38 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:38 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
06:38 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
06:39 <smoothice> luke-jr: lol
06:39 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:39 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
06:39 <Lucifer> grrr
06:39 <smoothice> #fetch whatismyip.org
06:39 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: 'whatismyip.org' is not a valid url.
06:39 <smoothice> lolz
06:39 <smoothice> #fetch http://whatismyip.org
06:39 <@armabot> smoothice: 83.243.117.49
06:39 <smoothice> yay
06:40 <Lucifer> #fetch http://whatismyip.org
06:40 <@armabot> Lucifer: 83.243.117.49
06:40 <smoothice> #alias add myip fetch http://whatismyip.org
06:40 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
06:40 <smoothice> #myip
06:40 <luke-jr> …
06:40 <Lucifer> you notice it gave us both the same number?
06:40 <@armabot> smoothice: 83.243.117.49
06:40 <smoothice> yay
06:40 <smoothice> it works
06:40 <Lucifer> #myip
06:40 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: 4 requests received from your IP address in the last 60 seconds (current max is 3 but automated agents should not query more often than once every 10 minutes)
06:41 <Lucifer> oh yeah, that's giving us wrtl's IP address, haha
06:41 <smoothice> lol
06:41 <luke-jr> duh
06:41 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:41 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
06:42 <smoothice> luke-jr: My VPS is fast and awesome
06:42 <luke-jr> smoothice: ok
06:43 <smoothice> luke-jr: Sorry I didn't subscribe to your services
06:43 <smoothice> luke-jr: I was just able to get a lot more for $10
06:44 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:44 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
06:44 <luke-jr> smoothice: not true ☹
06:45 <smoothice> luke-jr: Last time I checked I don't have root access to lightfoot
06:45 <luke-jr> smoothice: so?
06:45 <smoothice> Root access is a lot more for just $10
06:46 <smoothice> #list
06:46 <@armabot> smoothice: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
06:46 <smoothice> #list Alias
06:46 <@armabot> smoothice: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, #ratchet, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, c, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, corn, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, (5 more messages)
06:46 <luke-jr> smoothice: meh, you'll see
06:46 <smoothice> ?
06:46 <Lucifer> #/me likes candy
06:46 * armabot likes candy
06:46 <smoothice> #botsnack
06:46 <@armabot> /me licks smoothice
06:46 <smoothice> #cookie
06:46 <@armabot> smoothice: (cookie <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "send $1 a cookie".
06:47 <smoothice> cool
06:47 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
06:47 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
06:47 <smoothice> #more
06:47 <@armabot> smoothice: ddl, del, devhelp, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, emmy, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fastfood, fetch2, fight, finc, fink, flashyy, flerxytyme, fofo, fortune, freeciv, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, hyphy, (4 more messages)
06:47 <Lucifer> #send smoothice a big fluffy teddy bear
06:47 <@armabot> I have sent a big fluffy teddy bear to smoothice, it should arrive shortly.
06:47 <smoothice> #send luke-jr better hosting services
06:47 <@armabot> I have sent better hosting services to luke-jr, it should arrive shortly.
06:48 <smoothice> luke-jr: I just brought up the idea.. armabot did it!
06:48 <smoothice> lol
06:50 <smoothice> Lucifer: why is armabot operator?
06:50 <Lucifer> #kick smoothice
06:50 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "Lucifer"]
06:50 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
06:50 <smoothice> ok
06:50 <smoothice> I get it
06:50 <Lucifer> does that answer your question? ;)
06:50 <smoothice> yep
06:50 <smoothice> very well thanks
06:50 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:51 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:51 <luke-jr> I don't? :/
06:51 <smoothice> #whoami
06:51 <@armabot> smoothice: I don't recognize you.
06:51 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:51 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:51 <Lucifer> you have to identify with armabot too
06:51 <luke-jr> #whoami
06:51 <@armabot> luke-jr: Luke-Jr
06:51 <luke-jr> …
06:51 <smoothice> right...
06:51 <Lucifer> #admin capability add
06:51 <@armabot> Lucifer: (admin capability add <name|hostmask> <capability>) -- Gives the user specified by <name> (or the user to whom <hostmask> currently maps) the specified capability <capability>
06:51 <smoothice> moving right along :).....
06:51 <Lucifer> #admin capability add Luke-Jr kick
06:51 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:52 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:52 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:52 <smoothice> fail
06:52 <Lucifer> #admin capability add Luke-Jr #armagetron kick
06:52 <@armabot> Lucifer: (admin capability add <name|hostmask> <capability>) -- Gives the user specified by <name> (or the user to whom <hostmask> currently maps) the specified capability <capability>
06:52 <Lucifer> #admin capability add Luke-Jr op
06:52 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:52 <smoothice> This is bad...
06:53 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:53 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:53 <Lucifer> #admin capability add luke-jr op
06:53 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:53 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:53 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:53 <Lucifer> #admin capability add luke-jr channel op
06:53 <@armabot> Lucifer: (admin capability add <name|hostmask> <capability>) -- Gives the user specified by <name> (or the user to whom <hostmask> currently maps) the specified capability <capability>
06:53 * Lucifer doesn't get it
06:53 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:53 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:53 <smoothice> so #admin op Luke-Jr
06:53 <luke-jr> #admin capability add luke-jr #armagetron,op
06:53 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:54 <smoothice> Lucifer: do #admin op Luke-Jr
06:54 <Lucifer> #last --from wrtlprnft --nolimit
06:54 <@armabot> Lucifer: [13:16:30] <wrtlprnft> regular players will spend far less time writing private messages to the gm, [13:16:12] <wrtlprnft> communication between wolves is still sort of limited, [13:09:54] <wrtlprnft> exactly, [13:09:47] <wrtlprnft> if anyone else wants to take her?, [13:09:25] <wrtlprnft> but how do the wolves vote?, [13:08:53] <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: actually that might be an idea, and (1 more message)
06:54 <Lucifer> #more
06:54 <@armabot> Lucifer: [10:00:37] <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy done… at least till the next supybot upgrade.
06:54 <Lucifer> damn, he did it before the last restart
06:54 <Lucifer> #admin capability add luke-jr op
06:54 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:54 <luke-jr> try #admin capability add luke-jr #armagetron,op
06:54 <smoothice> #later tell PinkTomato Got my VPS. Works great all because of you. Thanks so much!
06:54 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
06:55 <Lucifer> #admin capability add Luke-Jr #armagetron,op
06:55 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:55 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:55 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "o hai thar"]
06:55 <Lucifer> aha!
06:55 <Lucifer> #admin capability add BabyBug #armagetron,op
06:55 <luke-jr> hm
06:55 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:55 <luke-jr> why doesn't #kick do a real kick?
06:55 <Lucifer> #alias makeop "capability add $1 #armagetron,op"
06:55 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
06:55 <Lucifer> #alias add makeop "capability add $1 #armagetron,op"
06:55 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:55 <Lucifer> #makeop smoothice
06:55 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: The command "capability add" is available in the Admin and Channel plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "capability add".
06:55 <Lucifer> #alias add makeop "admin capability add $1 #armagetron,op"
06:55 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:56 <Lucifer> #makeop smoothice
06:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:56 <smoothice> #kick Luke-Jr
06:56 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:56 <smoothice> >.<
06:56 <Lucifer> #alias add removeop "admin capability remove $1 #armagetron,op"
06:56 <smoothice> lol
06:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:56 <Lucifer> heh
06:56 <smoothice> I don't care
06:56 <Lucifer> #list cookie
06:56 <smoothice> lol
06:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: 'cookie' is not a valid plugin.
06:56 <Lucifer> #cookie
06:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: (cookie <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "send $1 a cookie".
06:56 <Lucifer> #removeop smoothice
06:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:56 <Lucifer> #removeop luke-jr
06:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:57 <Lucifer> luke-jr: try it agian, I want to see if the removeop worked :)
06:57 <luke-jr> -.-
06:57 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:57 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:57 <Lucifer> #makeop luke-jr
06:57 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
06:57 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice o hai thar
06:57 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "o hai thar"]
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06:57 <smoothice> I didn't know kicking _me_ would be fun
06:58 <smoothice> ivantis is onething
06:58 <smoothice> but
06:58 <smoothice> ME?
06:58 <luke-jr> oooooooo
06:58 <luke-jr> crap
06:58 <smoothice> ?
06:58 <luke-jr> ivantis is goen
06:58 <luke-jr> gotta wait
06:58 <smoothice> ljrbot: alias add myip web fetch http://whatismyip.org
06:58 <ljrbot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
06:58 <Lucifer> and we had to test, and we appreciate you're allowing us to use you as a test dummy
06:59 <smoothice> [myip
06:59 <smoothice> ]myip
06:59 <ljrbot> smoothice: 98.172.136.230
06:59 <smoothice> muahaha
06:59 <luke-jr> ]alias add myip web fetch http://whatismyipv6.org
06:59 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
06:59 <luke-jr> ]myip
06:59 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">\n<html>\n <head>\n <title>Index of /</title>\n </head>\n <body>\n<h1>Index of /</h1>\n<pre> <a href="?C=N;O=D">Name</a> <a href="?C=M;O=A">Last modified</a> <a href="?C=S;O=A">Size</a> <a href="?C=D;O=A">Description</a><hr><hr></pre>\n</body></html>\n'
06:59 <smoothice> ????
06:59 <luke-jr> wtf
06:59 <smoothice> ljrbot: myip
06:59 <ljrbot> smoothice: '<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">\n<html>\n <head>\n <title>Index of /</title>\n </head>\n <body>\n<h1>Index of /</h1>\n<pre> <a href="?C=N;O=D">Name</a> <a href="?C=M;O=A">Last modified</a> <a href="?C=S;O=A">Size</a> <a href="?C=D;O=A">Description</a><hr><hr></pre>\n</body></html>\n'
06:59 <smoothice> ljrbot: alias add myip web fetch http://whatismyip.org
06:59 <ljrbot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
06:59 <smoothice> ]myip
06:59 <ljrbot> smoothice: 98.172.136.230
06:59 <luke-jr> ]alias add myip web fetch http://whatismyipv6.net
06:59 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
06:59 <luke-jr> ]myip
06:59 <ljrbot> luke-jr: '\n<html>\n<head>\n<title>What is my IP address? </title>\n<meta name="Keywords" content="IP,IPv4,IPv6, address, address translation, find ip address, ip addres, what ip, ip find, ipaddress, network, ip tools, ifconfig, ipconfig, ipv6 ping, ipv6 traceroute, ipv6 nmap">\n<meta name="Description" content="Easily find your IPv6 or IPv4 address with WhatIsMyIPv6.net. Resolve your ip address, (5 more messages)
07:00 <luke-jr> ]more
07:00 <ljrbot> luke-jr: traceroute to your ip address, ping and much more.">\n<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache">\n</head>\n<body>\n<div align="center">\n<table width=100%>\n<tr>\n<td ALIGN="center">\n\n<script type="text/javascript"><!--\ngoogle_ad_client = "pub-6465231351658432";\ngoogle_alternate_color = "FFFFFF";\ngoogle_ad_width = 728;\ngoogle_ad_height = 90;\ngoogle_ad_format = (4 more messages)
07:00 <luke-jr> ]more
07:00 <ljrbot> luke-jr: "728x90_as";\ngoogle_ad_type = "text_image";\ngoogle_ad_channel ="6170350300";\ngoogle_page_url = document.location;\ngoogle_color_border = "FFFFFF";\ngoogle_color_bg = "FFFFFF";\ngoogle_color_link = "000000";\ngoogle_color_url = "21507F";\ngoogle_color_text = "21507F";\n//--></script>\n<script type="text/javascript"\n (3 more messages)
07:00 <luke-jr> ]more
07:00 <ljrbot> luke-jr: src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js">\n</script>\n\n\n\n<br />\n<br />\n\n<h1>Your IP is 98.172.136.230</h1></td></tr>\n\n<tr><td ALIGN="center"><h3>Your host is wsip-98-172-136-230.om.om.cox.net</h3></td></tr>\n\n\n<tr><td ALIGN="center">\n\n\n<br />\n<br />\nWhat Is My IPv6 .net. The fastest and easiest way\nto find out your IP (<b>IPv6</b> or <b>IPv4</b>) (2 more messages)
07:00 <luke-jr> ]more
07:00 <ljrbot> luke-jr: address.\n</td></tr>\n\n<tr><td ALIGN="center"><br />Tools: <a href="/">My IPv6/IPv4 address</a> - <a href="?s=IPv6_traceroute">Traceroute</a> - <a href="?s=IPv6_ping">Ping</a> - <a href="?s=browser_environment">Browser Environment Variables</a>\n\n<br /><br /><i>(As you are accessing this site through a IPv4 address, some advanced IPv6 features might not be available. <a (1 more message)
07:00 <smoothice> ljrbot: alias add myip web fetch http://whatismyip.org
07:00 <luke-jr> stupid thing
07:00 <ljrbot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
07:00 <smoothice> IPv6 is for experienced people
07:00 <smoothice> I'm using IPv4
07:00 <smoothice> lol
07:00 <luke-jr> n00b
07:00 <smoothice> ljrbot: alias add myip web fetch http://whatismyip.org
07:00 <ljrbot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
07:00 <smoothice> ]myip
07:00 <ljrbot> smoothice: 98.172.136.230
07:00 <smoothice> then again, so is ljrbot
07:01 <smoothice> so ljrbot is inexperienced
07:01 <luke-jr> nope
07:01 <luke-jr> ljrbot is v6
07:01 * ljrbot agrees 100%
07:01 <smoothice> >.<
07:01 <luke-jr> [00:01:10] [Whois] ljrbot is n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31 (Supybot 0.83.3)
07:01 <smoothice> ]myip
07:01 <ljrbot> smoothice: 98.172.136.230
07:01 <smoothice> see?
07:01 <luke-jr> smoothice: I see a broken web module
07:01 <Lucifer> broken concept, anyway
07:02 <smoothice> ]whois luke-jr
07:02 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "whois" is not a valid command.
07:02 <smoothice> ]web whois
07:02 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: The "Web" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "whois" in it. Try "list Web" to see the commands in the "Web" plugin.
07:02 <Lucifer> smoothice: why do you want to know wrtlprnt's ip address, anyway?
07:02 <smoothice> ]list Web
07:02 <ljrbot> smoothice: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote
07:02 <smoothice> Lucifer: No reason... just testing alias
07:02 <smoothice> Lucifer: don't worry... I'm not a DOSer
07:02 <smoothice> Lucifer: I am a conformist
07:02 <Lucifer> #netcraft http://www.davefancella.com/
07:02 <@armabot> Lucifer: http://www.davefancella.com was running Apache on Linux when last queried at 3-Jan-2009 06:02:38 GMT
07:02 <smoothice> #netcraft http://luke.dashjr.org
07:03 <@armabot> smoothice: http://luke.dashjr.org was running Apache on Linux when last queried at 3-Jan-2009 06:03:01 GMT
07:03 <Lucifer> oh good, google's found my website again, so now it's the first thing listed in search results for my name :)
07:04 <Lucifer> #google Dave Fancella
07:04 <@armabot> Lucifer: Search took 0.19 seconds: Bazaar branches related to Dave Fancella: <https://code.launchpad.net/~davefancella>; RPM shipped by Dave Fancella < dave @davefancella.com>: <http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Dave_Fancella__dave_davefancella.com_.html>; RPM shipped by Dave Fancella <davidfancella@davefancella.com>: (2 more messages)
07:04 <Lucifer> #more
07:04 <@armabot> Lucifer: <http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Dave_Fancella__davidfancella_davefancella.com_.html>; Dave Fancella - Meetup.com: <http://www.meetup.com/members/7995523/>; People at Savannah: Dave Fancella Profile [Savannah]: <http://savannah.nongnu.org/users/davidfancella>; Dave Fancella : ZoomInfo Business People Information: <http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Fancella_Dave_576301254.aspx>; Developer (1 more message)
07:04 <Lucifer> hmmm, why does that give me different results than my web browser?
07:05 <smoothice> #netcraft http://www.microsoft.com
07:05 <@armabot> smoothice: http://www.microsoft.com was running Microsoft-IIS on unknown when last queried at 30-Dec-2008 13:35:50 GMT
07:08 -!- GodTodd___ is now known as GodTodd
07:08 <teabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Windows ... <http://www.gamershell.com/download_37514.shtml>
07:08 <smoothice> I don't understand teabot
07:08 <smoothice> What does teabot do?
07:08 <luke-jr> spams us
07:08 <smoothice> teabot: #netcraft http://www.davefancella.com/
07:09 <smoothice> teabot: netcraft http://www.davefancella.com/
07:09 <teabot> smoothice: http://www.davefancella.com was running Apache on Linux when last queried at 3-Jan-2009 06:02:38 GMT
07:09 <smoothice> That's its whole point?
07:09 <smoothice> Is to spam?
07:11 <smoothice> Lucifer: can you ping dessert.ath.cx for me?
07:11 <smoothice> Lucifer: since you live in TX
07:11 <Lucifer> PING dessert.ath.cx (67.222.143.161) 56(84) bytes of data.
07:11 <Lucifer> 64 bytes from vaserv.com (67.222.143.161): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=34.2 ms
07:11 <Lucifer> 64 bytes from vaserv.com (67.222.143.161): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=34.1 ms
07:11 <Lucifer> 64 bytes from vaserv.com (67.222.143.161): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=206 ms
07:11 <Lucifer> 64 bytes from vaserv.com (67.222.143.161): icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=90.9 ms
07:12 <smoothice> Which one is real?
07:12 <Lucifer> ?
07:12 <smoothice> probably 34
07:12 <smoothice> 206 cannot be
07:12 <smoothice> usual
07:12 <Lucifer> sure it can
07:12 <Lucifer> I get unusual lag in arma :
07:12 <Lucifer> :)
07:12 <Lucifer> wireless connection, two torrents, of course my ping will fluctuate
07:13 <smoothice> *jawdrops*
07:13 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
07:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 64.0°F (12:10 AM CST on January 03, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Rising).
07:13 <smoothice> #weather 000000
07:13 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
07:13 <smoothice> hha
07:13 <smoothice> fail
07:13 <luke-jr> #weather 68127
07:13 <@armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in 78th Ave. & Seymour, Ralston, Nebraska is 34.2°F (12:09 AM CST on January 03, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 29.61 in 1002.6 hPa (Steady).
07:13 <smoothice> #weather 00000
07:13 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
07:13 <smoothice> fail
07:14 <luke-jr> yes, you fail
07:14 <GodTodd> they say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results
07:14 <smoothice> GodTodd: 000000 ≠ 00000
07:14 <luke-jr> smoothice: wrong
07:14 <teabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Linux - Demo ... <http://www.gamershell.com/download_37516.shtml>
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07:14 <luke-jr> 000000 = 00000
07:14 <GodTodd> 0 <>0 ?
07:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: From a digit perspective
07:15 <smoothice> Lucifer: kick teabot?
07:15 <GodTodd> 0 = 0 as far as any math i've ever learned :)
07:15 <smoothice> GodTodd: from a digit perspective
07:16 <smoothice> #dns forums.armagetronad.net
07:16 <smoothice> #dns armagetronad.net
07:16 <GodTodd> so....in math 00 is bigger or smaller than 0?
07:16 <@armabot> Host not found.
07:16 <GodTodd> has to be one or the other since they're different from a digit perspective. :)
07:16 <smoothice> GodTodd: I said "from a digit perspective"
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07:16 <GodTodd> so did i
07:18 <smoothice> /shun GodTodd
07:19 <smoothice> #alias add shun say $1, you have been shunned.
07:19 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
07:19 <smoothice> #shun GodTodd
07:19 <@armabot> GodTodd, you have been shunned.
07:19 <GodTodd> oh, darn
07:20 <smoothice> #shun luke-jr
07:20 <@armabot> luke-jr, you have been shunned.
07:20 <luke-jr> #kick smoothice
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07:20 <smoothice> I knew this wouldn't be good
07:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: Do your servers run Ubuntu?
07:22 <teabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Mac - Demo ... <http://www.gamershell.com/download_37518.shtml>
07:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: no
07:22 <luke-jr> Ubuntu is fail
07:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: L(
07:22 <smoothice> luke-jr: :(
07:22 <luke-jr> yes, Ubuntu is ☹ too
07:23 <smoothice> why is ubuntu fail?
07:23 <smoothice> I love Ubuntu
07:23 <luke-jr> it just is
07:23 <luke-jr> Ubuntu is dead leech weight
07:23 <smoothice> That's not a good reason
07:23 <luke-jr> Ubuntu just leeches off the Linux community
07:24 <luke-jr> nothing Ubuntu has that Debian does not
07:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: a nice company behind it
07:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: Canonical
07:25 <luke-jr> no, a leeching company
07:25 <luke-jr> Canonical doesn't contribute to the community
07:26 <smoothice> time to sleep :)
07:26 <smoothice> meh
07:26 <luke-jr> meh u
07:26 <smoothice> if Canonical leeches
07:26 <smoothice> then so does the owners of every other Debian-based distro
07:27 <luke-jr> not necessarily
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11:26 <Lucifer> heh, what are the chances I can talk them into a free bike for me?
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12:00 <PinkTomato> :'( btyacc, byacc, cl-yacc but no yacc :(
12:05 <PinkTomato> and the yacc you need is obviously the one without yacc in its name, bison :).
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12:17 <Lucifer> heh
12:17 <Lucifer> instead of asking for a free bike, I just asked them what kind of support they'd give me
12:18 <Lucifer> and a developer discount
12:19 <Lucifer> hm, my email bounced :(
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12:35 <Lucifer> where's Your_mom when you need him? heh
12:35 * BabyBug slaps Lucifer
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12:35 * Lucifer reminds himself that BabyBug is, in fact, below his minimum dating age, and suitably restrains himself
12:36 <BabyBug> psssht since when did age stop a bloke
12:36 <Lucifer> heh
12:36 <Lucifer> know anything about electronics?
12:36 <BabyBug> nooo
12:37 <Lucifer> I think hacking a mouse would be better, since I have a mouse port available on my machine
12:37 <BabyBug> Electricity is a flow of electrons! That's all i know
12:37 <Lucifer> heh
12:38 <Lucifer> I want to convert the mechanical switch of a mouse to an electrical switch triggered by a bicycle speed sensor
12:38 <BabyBug> O.o
12:38 <Lucifer> is it enough to just replace the mechanical switch with a transistor?
12:38 <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201732#201732
12:38 <BabyBug> what's a transistor ^^
12:38 <Lucifer> er, it's kind of like an electrical switch
12:39 <Lucifer> I guess I'd need to know what sort of current is put out by the speed sensor
12:39 <Lucifer> aha, I'll ask in #electronics :)
12:40 <Lucifer> of course, after that, I'd still need an exercise bike, heh
12:44 <BabyBug> You so need a job
12:45 <Lucifer> hey, it's the weekend!
12:45 <BabyBug> yeh....you still need a job =P
12:46 <Lucifer> if that lady that wants me to work Jarrell actually sets me up with the job, then I'll probably just buy the pcgb mini
12:46 <Lucifer> but it would be cool to hack together a speed sensor contraption that works with a regular exercise bike
12:48 <BabyBug> wouldn't it be soooo much better to work on improving the game for everyone? :P
12:49 <Lucifer> I wonder if I'm well enough to work on 0.3.1 now
12:49 <BabyBug> ill is soooooooo not an excuse not to program
12:50 <Lucifer> I've been programming!
12:51 <Lucifer> what do you know, anyway?
12:51 <Lucifer> worked a bit on eugenics, and a bit on my accounting program
12:51 <Lucifer> will probably hit my accounting program again in the next few hours, I'd like to have a working register that can edit transactions pretty soon
12:52 <BabyBug> I know alot thank you very much!
12:52 <BabyBug> Now...program mister!
12:52 <BabyBug> (on arma)
12:53 <Lucifer> fine, I'm installing autopackage right now, so there!
12:54 <PinkTomato> It actually compiled...
12:54 <Lucifer> hmmm, anybody know if the ubuntu package stuff ever actually got put in the trunk?
12:54 <PinkTomato> if 0.2.8 had it, and now thats merged into trunk
12:54 <PinkTomato> won't that mean yes?
12:55 <Lucifer> no, because that stuff is in a separate module
12:55 <PinkTomato> oh, i see
12:55 <Lucifer> the only release you can build directly from a bazaar branch is a source release :)
12:56 <Lucifer> all other releases (binary packages) require the build module, which I think was renamed in the bzr switch
12:56 <Lucifer> and predictably, I haven't touched it since then
12:56 <Lucifer> (still waiting for autopackage to install)
12:56 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
12:57 <Lucifer> I suppose I should do a make distcheck before I do anything else
12:58 <BabyBug> Sooooo...What's stopping 0.3.1 being released right this second?
12:59 <Lucifer> being able to build packages for it
13:00 <Lucifer> i.e. windows installer, linux source, autopackage
13:00 <BabyBug> That's it...
13:00 <Lucifer> I seem to recall that's the bare minimum we all agreed on for a release off the trunk
13:00 <Lucifer> make distcheck ensures the source package can be released
13:00 <Lucifer> when I finish building and testing an autopackage, we'll have that
13:00 <Lucifer> then all that's left is being able to build the windows installer
13:01 <Lucifer> now, z-man, afaik, can build an autopackage for us, but we really need to stop depending on him for all release needs
13:01 <BabyBug> afaik??
13:01 <Lucifer> yeah, afaik
13:01 <BabyBug> >< what does it mean......
13:01 <Lucifer> trunk's moved around a bit, and he's stayed focused on 0.2.8
13:01 <Lucifer> "as far as I know"
13:01 <BabyBug> ah
13:02 <Lucifer> so, lemme get a build of libxml2 for the autopackage going, eh?
13:03 <BabyBug> Sure. You have 2 minutes!
13:03 <Lucifer> it'll take that long to download libxml2 sources!
13:03 <BabyBug> Fine! 4 minutes!
13:03 <Lucifer> it'll take at least 20 to build libxml2!
13:03 <BabyBug> 24 minutes then!
13:03 <Lucifer> 3.3 MB of compressed source code is scary
13:04 <Lucifer> but what else can youe xpect from GNOME?
13:05 <BabyBug> 3.2MB of compressed code maybe?
13:05 <PinkTomato> is GNOME not good?
13:05 <BabyBug> gnome rox yur sox!
13:05 * BabyBug is a gnome!
13:05 <PinkTomato> :) hehe
13:06 <Lucifer> GNOME is the biggest, bloatedest piece of crap on the internet, aside from WIndows itself
13:06 <PinkTomato> If you think GNOME is bloated
13:06 <BabyBug> It so isn't!
13:06 <PinkTomato> I would like to hear what you think KDE is
13:06 <Lucifer> slightly less bloated than GNOME
13:06 <Lucifer> :)
13:07 <PinkTomato> how ?
13:07 <Lucifer> ooo, gotta go build libxml2, can't join the flame war, sorry!
13:07 <PinkTomato> yeah, good idea :)
13:07 <BabyBug> Lucifer, that doesn't stop you talking!
13:07 <PinkTomato> You use XCFE then?
13:07 <BabyBug> (although yes get off the flame war)
13:07 <BabyBug> :D
13:07 <Lucifer> no, I use KDE
13:07 <PinkTomato> Ah right
13:08 <Lucifer> the real reason I don't like GNOME, besides their holier-than-though attitudes about use cases, is because GNOME uses GTK
13:08 <Lucifer> XFCE also uses GTK
13:08 <Lucifer> there's some guys in #qt that want to write a qt-based DE from scratch
13:09 <BabyBug> DE?
13:09 <BabyBug> Desktop Environment?
13:09 <Lucifer> yes
13:10 <BabyBug> What does KDE use?
13:10 <Lucifer> for some of us, the idea that a DE doesn't ahve to provide its own convoluted api is very seductive
13:10 <Lucifer> that someone could develop solely with qt and have perfect integration with the DE, for example, without having to resort to kdelib
13:10 <Lucifer> kde uses qt
13:11 <BabyBug> oh
13:11 <BabyBug> So what's qt then? :P
13:12 <BabyBug> i'm guessing it's not quicktime :o
13:12 <Lucifer> and, oh yeah, the DE itself would still be really fucking awesome, more awesomer than KDE4
13:12 <Lucifer> no, qt is a cross-platform GUI toolkit
13:12 <Lucifer> you can use PyQt4 if you like ;)
13:12 <BabyBug> ooo, i see
13:12 <BabyBug> So just an alternative to gtk?
13:12 <Lucifer> sure, except that qt predates gtk
13:12 <BabyBug> i get ya now
13:12 <Lucifer> and is much prettier and better-designed ;)
13:13 <Lucifer> gtk was written to provide a gui for the GIMP
13:13 <BabyBug> So you hate gnome because it doesn't use something that wasn't available at the time?
13:13 <Lucifer> no, there's more to it than that
13:13 <BabyBug> :P
13:13 <Lucifer> qt didn't used to be available under a GPL-compatible license
13:13 <Lucifer> so KDE was GPL, but it depended on a non-free library
13:13 <Lucifer> TrollTech, the company that makes qt, refused to release under a GPL-compatible license
13:14 <Lucifer> so two groups spawned
13:14 <wrtlprnft> (note that my hostname is not cloaked and armabot's isn't, either, so my ip is not really secret… or you could just resolve wrtlprnft.ath.cx)
13:14 <Lucifer> one took gtk from the GIMP and started working on GNOME, the other group took gtk and started wrapping it in a C++ library compatible with qt
13:14 <Lucifer> under significant pressure, TrollTech released qt under the GPL
13:15 <Lucifer> but by then, GNOME was already far enough along that the developers wanted to keep working on it, and thus the GNOME/KDE flame wars began
13:15 <Lucifer> anyway, until the last couple of years, the only reason to hate GNOME was gtk
13:15 <Lucifer> and gtk is a big reason to hate gnome, especially if you're already used to qt
13:15 <BabyBug> i seee...
13:15 <Lucifer> but in the last couple of years, the GNOME project has adopted a steadily increasing condescending attitude towards its users
13:16 <Lucifer> they're also MUCH more commercially oriented, and primarily American
13:16 <Lucifer> so you can see where the condescension comes from ;)
13:16 <BabyBug> heh
13:17 <Lucifer> gnome leaves a sour taste in my mouth, these days, but if I can't upgrade to KDE4, I'll start looking around
13:17 <Lucifer> I might join those guys in #qt ;)
13:18 <PinkTomato> yay, It compiled because I compiled the wrong folder!
13:19 <Lucifer> you built 0.2.8 instead?
13:19 <Lucifer> well, I'm a leave this running for a little while
13:19 <Lucifer> if it finishes, I'm probably going to ask folks here to test the packages for me ;)
13:19 <Lucifer> BabyBug: so be ready!
13:20 <BabyBug> Ready and waiting Lucifer!
13:20 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, What was with the random comment earlier? lol
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13:29 <BabyBug> epsy!
13:29 <epsy> yes?
13:29 <BabyBug> Hiya =)
13:29 <epsy> hi
13:33 <z-man> Lucifer: all you need to do to build a good autopackage is to build libxml2 and libzthread with apgcc and set things up so that the arma build uses those. I'm using a customized .site file for auto* for that. Then, it's just a matter of "make autopackage" with the build module.
13:33 <Lucifer> heh, that's it? ;)
13:33 <Lucifer> libxml2 won't install
13:33 <Lucifer> I suspect it's because apgcc isn't in root's path
13:34 <z-man> well, if you don't do special builds, you still can build an autopackage.
13:34 <z-man> It just won't be as backward compatible as it can possibly be.
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13:35 <Lucifer> make[3]: *** No rule to make target `../src/swig/ext/armagetronad_wrap.cxx', needed by `distdir'.
13:35 <Lucifer> :)
13:35 <Lucifer> that's after "make autopackage"
13:35 <z-man> well, ok, then maybe the trunk source needs some work :)
13:36 <Lucifer> heh, rebuilding trunk real quick to see if it even works right now
13:36 <Lucifer> I just pulled, but it worked before I pulled
13:36 <epsy> why is (sn_)programVersion in network? :\
13:37 <Lucifer> hmmm, lots of broke-ass shit
13:37 <z-man> No special reason. It's the only place it was needed so far.
13:37 <Lucifer> what happened to the trunk?
13:37 <epsy> well, gotta move it to tools
13:37 <Lucifer> nvm, that was my problem ;)
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13:38 <Lucifer> I renamed the source dir, and configure didn't pick up the rename
13:39 <z-man> ah
13:39 <Lucifer> shouldn't be a problem for the build module, though
13:39 <Lucifer> I renamed it before running that :)
13:46 <Lucifer> what's supposed to be in tarballs/distmaker ?
13:48 <Lucifer> aha, it's make dist that's failing
13:59 <Lucifer> is zonesv2 built by default?
14:00 <epsy> yes
14:02 <Lucifer> #ubuntu
14:02 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
14:02 <Lucifer> I don't see ruby listed in there
14:02 <Lucifer> checking for ruby... ruby
14:02 <Lucifer> checking for library containing ruby_run... no
14:02 <Lucifer> configure: error: Ruby library not found.
14:03 <BabyBug> Why does arma need ruby? =\
14:03 <Lucifer> because ruby is sexy
14:03 <BabyBug> But why does it NEED it?
14:04 <Lucifer> wait a minute, I remember this error from something else
14:05 <Lucifer> grrrr
14:05 <Lucifer> says I have ruby
14:05 <BabyBug> wrong version or ruby? :P
14:05 <BabyBug> of*
14:07 <Lucifer> maybe
14:07 <Lucifer> there's a ruby-full package, I'll try that :)
14:08 <Lucifer> where's dlh when you need him? heh
14:08 <Lucifer> BabyBug: see? Can't even build a source package right now....
14:08 <BabyBug> It never picked up ruby1.9 for me, and i had to install ruby1.8
14:08 <Lucifer> that's what I'm installing right now, ruby1.8
14:09 <Lucifer> this is one of the times when I wish nemo was a python freak instead of a ruby freak
14:09 <Lucifer> oh yeah, and arma doesn't *need* ruby
14:09 <Lucifer> not yet, anyway
14:09 <Lucifer> but to build a source release, you have to have all the conditionally-built sources turned on
14:10 <Lucifer> ok, found ruby
14:11 <BabyBug> \o/
14:12 <Lucifer> #ubuntu
14:12 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
14:13 <Lucifer> ruby wasn't in 0.3.0 at all, was it?
14:13 <epsy> doubt it
14:14 <epsy> @8ball ruby wasn't in 0.3.0 at all, was it?
14:14 <teabot> epsy: Naturally.
14:14 <Lucifer> I'm starting to hate automake a lot, again
14:14 <Lucifer> it'll probably work if I run a regular build first, because that file gets built in a regular build
14:19 <BabyBug> it's been well over 24 minutes Lucifer
14:19 <Lucifer> I hit a snag
14:19 <Lucifer> as expected ;)
14:19 <BabyBug> well then you should of added that to the time!
14:20 <Lucifer> heh, I could just quit and let *you* build it
14:20 <BabyBug> fine!
14:21 <BabyBug> actually not fine...i can't install ftgl :P
14:21 <Lucifer> heh, you'll need to do that anyway.... eh?
14:22 <BabyBug> hrmm? what?
14:22 <Lucifer> z-man: have you tried to build ftgl with apgcc and statically link it?
14:23 <Lucifer> well, if we could link statically to ftgl in the autopackage, you wouldn't need to install ftgl
14:23 <BabyBug> true
14:23 <BabyBug> But, i'm confused why 0.3.0 works fine...
14:24 <Lucifer> hmmm, it uses ftgl too, right?
14:24 <BabyBug> i thought it does?
14:24 <BabyBug> Don't ask me though
14:24 <BabyBug> lol
14:24 * Lucifer doesn't remember, it may not
14:24 <Lucifer> er, yeah, I think it kinda has to
14:24 <BabyBug> how would one find out? :P
14:24 <Lucifer> configure and see if it checks for ftgl ;)
14:25 <Lucifer> this build is taking forever, I'll bbiab
14:26 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yup it need ftgl
14:27 <BabyBug> but it fails to find it :)
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14:36 <teabot> tstnews: TST 2009.01 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/tst-200901/> || DurkLord & SageKa win the TST 2008.11 <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/durklord-sageka-win-the-tst-200811/> || Final challenge board is up! <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-challenge-board-is-up/> || Final rules and settings <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-rules-and-settings/> || Registration is open! <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/registration-is-open/> || Seco
14:48 <epsy> ...
14:52 <PinkTomato> teabot is slow?
14:53 <epsy> teabot is dumb
14:53 <epsy> AND SLOW
14:53 <PinkTomato> poor teabot :(
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15:53 <teabot> armablah: the next level « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/the-next-level/>
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16:04 <PinkTomato> #si worm game
16:04 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Solo Fortress & The Worm Game: Players (5/8): .dBd|Me, luke-jr, R£P>PinkTomato, TWG (test@dashjr.org), |Evil Chips
16:05 <Corn> How does that thing work
16:05 <PinkTomato> no idea, I can't get it working
16:05 <PinkTomato> the solo fort is good though
16:06 <Corn> TWG = Luke right?
16:06 <Corn> or a bot or something
16:06 <Corn> nevermind
16:07 <PinkTomato> luke-jr server
16:07 <PinkTomato> TWG is a bot that dosen't really need to be there
16:08 <Corn> @sd -v cafe\
16:08 <teabot> Corn: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe\\” at the moment, sorry.
16:08 <PinkTomato> .tea
16:08 <PinkTomato> #tea
16:08 <Corn> @sd -v cafe
16:08 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
16:08 <teabot> Corn: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090102 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (0/32):
16:08 <Corn> tea is nice but it doesnt display all the info
16:08 <PinkTomato> true
16:08 <Corn> for example if i want to custom connect tea doesnt help
16:09 <PinkTomato> ah yeah
16:09 <Corn> @sd worm
16:09 <teabot> Corn: Solo Fortress & The Worm Game: Players (6/8): .dBd|Me, luke-jr, R£P>PinkTomato, TWG (test@dashjr.org), |Evil Chips, |x| $ubzero
16:09 <PinkTomato> all these IRC bot commands should be put on the wiki I think
16:09 <PinkTomato> might come in handy
16:09 <BabyBug> @help
16:09 <teabot> BabyBug: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
16:09 <Corn> They should
16:09 <BabyBug> @list
16:09 <teabot> BabyBug: Alias, Factoids, Filter, Format, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Later, Math, Misc, Nickometer, Poll, QGoogle, Quote, RSS, String, Time, Topic, User, Utilities, and Web
16:09 <BabyBug> no there
16:09 <PinkTomato> but you need to know the command for help?
16:10 <PinkTomato> @list alias
16:10 <teabot> PinkTomato: monologue, /me, 8ball, aawikis, action, add, aka, armaservers, as, bop, bzr, c, calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc, caps, cctld, cupofteaplease, date, drantin, g, google, kickban, lastseen, linkafl, linkbrawl, linkfff, linkformat, linkladle, linkom, linktst, lock, logs, lp, ls, lukejrwork, man, moar, nb, night, onlineplayers, onlineservers, r, rape, remove, replace, rot1, sd, (1 more message)
16:10 <PinkTomato> oh i see
16:10 <Corn> why would you need to know " calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc"
16:10 <BabyBug> @calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc
16:10 <PinkTomato> he was online only for half a second last time
16:11 <teabot> BabyBug: The number of seconds Durka can stay online on irc = 30
16:11 <Corn> ls stands for list correct?
16:11 <PinkTomato> @rape
16:11 <teabot> PinkTomato: (rape <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo [action rapes $1] [kick $1] [success]".
16:12 <PinkTomato> @cupofteaplease
16:12 <teabot> Certainly, it would be a pleasure seeing as you asked so nicely.
16:12 <Corn> @rape PinkTomatoes for stealing his woman
16:12 <teabot> Corn: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:12 <Corn> i dont have the capability to rape someone?
16:14 <Corn> @8ball
16:14 <teabot> Corn: The answer is a resounding no.
16:14 <Corn> i guess 8ball doesnt think i can rape people either
16:15 <PinkTomato> #lukejrworks
16:15 <@armabot> ♪ are obsolete. ♫
16:15 <PinkTomato> huh?
16:15 <Corn> Does PinkTomato deserve to die?
16:15 <Corn> @8ball
16:16 <teabot> Corn: You're kidding, right?
16:16 <PinkTomato> aw :D
16:16 <Corn> How about now?
16:16 <Corn> @8ball
16:16 <teabot> Corn: _I_ don't know.
16:16 <Corn> Haha hes leaning my way
16:17 <PinkTomato> what if I gave Corn custard? would he change their mind?
16:17 <PinkTomato> @8ball
16:17 <teabot> PinkTomato: Unlikely.
16:17 <Corn> He speaks the truth
16:17 <PinkTomato> lol :)
16:17 <Corn> Will Lucifer come in here in a matter of seconds telling me to stfu?
16:17 <Corn> @8ball
16:18 <teabot> Corn: The outlook is hazy, please ask again later.
16:18 <PinkTomato> oo dear
16:18 <PinkTomato> They were doing some difficult autopackage thingy
16:18 <Corn> psychic powers my ass
16:18 <PinkTomato> not heard in a while
16:19 <Corn> Teabot are you a evil python minion?
16:19 <Corn> @8ball
16:19 <teabot> Corn: Come again?
16:19 <Corn> Does python suck?
16:19 <Corn> @8ball
16:19 <teabot> Corn: It is so.
16:19 <PinkTomato> oo be careful teabot
16:20 <Corn> How about bzr?
16:20 <Corn> @8ball
16:20 <teabot> Corn: NO!
16:20 * PinkTomato agrees with teabot :D
16:21 <Corn> teabot, do you love me?
16:21 <Corn> @8ball
16:21 <teabot> Corn: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:21 <teabot> Corn: The answer is a resounding no.
16:21 <Corn> Aww...
16:21 <PinkTomato> evil thing
16:21 <Corn> Teabot your suppose to lie about those sorts of things
16:21 <PinkTomato> #impregnate
16:21 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (impregnate <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo /me fertilizes $1".
16:22 <Corn> #impregnate teabot
16:22 <@armabot> /me fertilizes teabot
16:22 <Corn> haha now you have to love me
16:22 <Corn> ok thats pretty awkward
16:22 <Corn> 2 bots copulating
16:22 <PinkTomato> yeah..
16:23 <Corn> teabot, are you going to get an abortion
16:23 <Corn> @8ball
16:23 <teabot> Corn: The answer is certainly yes.
16:23 <PinkTomato> aww
16:25 <Corn> Teabot, does PinkTomato really love you in secret and you've been having affairs without anyone knowing?
16:25 <Corn> @8ball
16:25 <teabot> Corn: Come again?
16:25 <PinkTomato> lol :D
16:26 <Corn> It should say 'Cum again?'
16:26 <PinkTomato> xD
16:26 <PinkTomato> I think BabyBug is regretting telling us alias :D
16:27 <Corn> haha
16:27 <Corn> is that true teabot, the all seeing eye?
16:27 <Corn> @8ball
16:27 <teabot> Corn: What are you asking me for?
16:27 <Corn> lrn2read teabot
16:27 <PinkTomato> fine then teabot
16:27 <PinkTomato> #eightball
16:27 <@armabot> PinkTomato: No clue.
16:28 <PinkTomato> well that was a disappiontment
16:28 <Corn> Teabot do you feel undermined by PinkTomato and sad and angry that he would replace you with the very bot that impregnated you?
16:28 <teabot> Corn: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:28 <Corn> @8ball
16:28 <teabot> Corn: No clue.
16:29 <Corn> You guys are hopeless
16:29 <PinkTomato> yeah :(
16:29 <Lucifer> Corn: shut the fuck up
16:30 <Corn> Why did you not warn me of this teabot?
16:30 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: did autopackage work?
16:31 <Corn> Maybe you should ask teabot, supposibly he knows everything
16:31 <PinkTomato> hehe ;)
16:33 <Corn> @list alias
16:33 <teabot> Corn: monologue, /me, 8ball, aawikis, action, add, aka, armaservers, as, bop, bzr, c, calc the number of seconds durka can stay online on irc, caps, cctld, cupofteaplease, date, drantin, g, google, kickban, lastseen, linkafl, linkbrawl, linkfff, linkformat, linkladle, linkom, linktst, lock, logs, lp, ls, lukejrwork, man, moar, nb, night, onlineplayers, onlineservers, r, rape, remove, replace, rot1, sd, (1 more message)
16:33 <Corn> @moar
16:33 <teabot> Corn: serverdetails, serverscores, si, ss, sty, tea, test, tourneys, tstservers, unlock, vectron, what, wtf, and x
16:33 <Corn> @wtf is wtf
16:33 <teabot> ivantis sucks!
16:34 <Corn> Tru dat
16:34 <BabyBug> Corn, commands work in PM so you don't have to spam the channel.
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16:46 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: no, there are problems in the trunk
16:46 * BabyBug cuddles Lucifer
16:47 <PinkTomato> ah I see, :)
16:47 <Lucifer> the problem is that make dist doesn't work, heh
16:47 <Lucifer> so I went and watched some star trek instead
16:48 <PinkTomato> :) sounds more fun
16:48 <hang3r> the trunk of armagetron has always been borked
16:48 <Lucifer> heh
16:48 <hang3r> if that's what you are talking about
16:48 <PinkTomato> its getting better
16:48 <Lucifer> hang3r: yes, but not code, it builds and runs just fine
16:48 <PinkTomato> it dosen't moan at ruby anymore
16:48 <BabyBug> it does not run just fine!!
16:49 <BabyBug> it segfaults on the browser list!
16:49 <Lucifer> no, wait, it doesn't build if you --enable-ruby
16:49 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I can't replicate that....
16:49 <BabyBug> Lucifer, upgrade ftgl then :P
16:49 <Lucifer> but then arma will segfault on the browser list, why would I want to do that?
16:49 <Lucifer> you said 0.3.0 doesn't segfault there, right?
16:49 <BabyBug> Right
16:50 <Lucifer> can you run the trunk through gdb and get a backtrace? or did somebody already do that?
16:50 <Lucifer> you just do:
16:50 <BabyBug> epsy already did it
16:50 <Lucifer> gdb ./src/armagetronad_main
16:50 <BabyBug> It's on the bug report
16:50 <Lucifer> ah, ok
16:50 <Lucifer> oh, then I have an email with the bt in it
16:50 <BabyBug> he wrote a one liner explaining why it's happening aswell i think
16:50 <BabyBug> or rather, when it's happening
16:51 <Lucifer> why didn't he write a one-liner that fixes it?
16:51 <BabyBug> he's never done ftgl before
16:51 <BabyBug> (i think)
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16:59 <BabyBug> the fact that it works fine in 0.3.0 and not trunk suggests it's not an FTGL bug though...right?
17:00 <PinkTomato> 0.3 != trunk?
17:01 <BabyBug> 0.3.0 was a snapshot of the trunk at somepoint...I think....
17:01 <BabyBug> And that worked fine...
17:01 <BabyBug> But now the trunk doesn't
17:01 <PinkTomato> oh that branch, I know what you are talking about
17:01 <BabyBug> which means it's something they've done!!
17:01 <PinkTomato> :D
17:01 <PinkTomato> they sswitched from std::string
17:01 <PinkTomato> to tstring
17:02 <PinkTomato> that sounds pretty crucial
17:13 <PinkTomato> #ubuntu
17:13 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
17:14 <smoothice> #ubuntu
17:14 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
17:17 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: http://crazy-tronners.com/viewtopic.php?p=30950#30950
17:18 <hang3r> I'm almost certain their are more build dependencies to build armagetron than that
17:19 <BabyBug> awwwwwww =(
17:19 <PinkTomato> hang3r: I believe there is, but they are dependencies of the dependy line
17:19 <PinkTomato> wait that made no sense, I mean, dependencies of dependencies
17:20 <PinkTomato> awww, no gluggsel :(
17:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, that makes perfect sense
17:20 <BabyBug> ftgl-dev depends on libftgl2 and libftgl-dev for example
17:20 <BabyBug> so it drags them in
17:21 <PinkTomato> But you said that much more clearer than me :)
17:21 <BabyBug> lol
17:21 <smoothice> So what's the scoop? What do I need to build armagetronad on Ubuntu?
17:21 <hang3r> that's allright, when you are seekin help and you join #help, you get redirected to #freenode, you then tell them your life has gone to shit, they tell you to join #defocus of which you have to wait for a voice before you can actually chat
17:21 <hang3r> woot
17:21 <hang3r> life is awesome
17:22 <PinkTomato> hmm, Im still wondering how I got banned from #ubuntu-uk
17:22 <BabyBug> O.o
17:22 <BabyBug> lol?
17:23 <PinkTomato> I have never been there
17:23 <PinkTomato> I installed xchat the other day, default room
17:23 <PinkTomato> bit odd seeing you are banned
17:23 <smoothice> will sudo apt-get install build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev bzr
17:23 <smoothice> work to compile amragetron on ubuntu?
17:23 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, someone else called sam using sky ISP maybe?
17:23 <BabyBug> * #ubuntu-uk Banlist: Fri Sep 5 10:17:04 *!*n=sam@*.bb.sky.com ballard.freenode.net
17:24 <PinkTomato> that was ages ago
17:24 <BabyBug> what was ages ago?
17:24 <PinkTomato> Sep 5
17:24 <BabyBug> That's when the ban was set
17:24 <PinkTomato> that's a long ban
17:24 * BabyBug shrugs
17:24 <PinkTomato> well damn them
17:24 <BabyBug> shall i try get you unbanned? :P
17:25 <PinkTomato> I think its OK, I can just use #ubuntu if i need it :)
17:27 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i thought i'd tell you because else you'd probably never see it
17:27 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, edit your post and say "BabyBug sends you a kiss and a cuddle" plzzzz =P
17:28 <BabyBug> and newp i wouldn't of, ty xx
17:28 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: done
17:28 <BabyBug> thank yooh :D
17:29 <epsy> his post?
17:30 <BabyBug> yes epsy, his post :P
17:35 <smoothice> PinkTomato: ok
17:35 <PinkTomato> smoothice: cd in and ./bootstrap.sh
17:35 <smoothice> k
17:36 <smoothice> PinkTomato: ok Done! You may now run configure and start building.
17:36 <smoothice> now
17:36 <smoothice> for the prefix
17:36 <PinkTomato> are you compiling with armathentication?
17:36 <smoothice> Can I have all this
17:36 <smoothice> nope
17:36 <smoothice> but
17:37 <smoothice> Can this all be self-contained in a folder
17:37 <PinkTomato> yeap
17:37 <PinkTomato> its probably the best way to do it on a server
17:37 <smoothice> ok
17:37 <PinkTomato> ./configure --prefix=/etc/arma --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32
17:38 <PinkTomato> that's my configure line
17:38 <smoothice> will it create the folder in the prefix
17:38 <smoothice> If it isn't already created?
17:38 <PinkTomato> it'll do all that for you when you make install
17:38 <epsy> you install arma in /etc ??
17:39 <PinkTomato> epsy: what's better?
17:39 <BabyBug> http://crazy-tronners.com/viewtopic.php?p=30950#30950 <--- That post epsy
17:39 <epsy> /usr/local ? /opt ?
17:39 <PinkTomato> epsy: someone might what to change the wiki if thats not a logical place then
17:39 <BabyBug> /home/$USER/ ftw!
17:40 <smoothice> how about /root/armagetronservers/sty
17:40 <epsy> does a wiki article say this?
17:40 <epsy> you don't want arma to be run as root..do you?
17:40 <BabyBug> smoothice, you should really run the servers as root...
17:40 <BabyBug> shouldn't*
17:40 <PinkTomato> um...
17:40 <smoothice> so....
17:40 <PinkTomato> thats on my TODO
17:40 <smoothice> lol
17:40 <smoothice> Is Racing II run as root?
17:40 <epsy> @aawikis /etc/arma
17:40 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer - Running Multiple Servers on a single Linux computer - Armagetron ...
17:41 <PinkTomato> thats the page epsy
17:41 <PinkTomato> the actual scripts don't work well though
17:41 <epsy> what the FUCK??
17:41 <smoothice> :O
17:41 <PinkTomato> OK, epsy dosen't sound impressed
17:41 <smoothice> Glad I didn't run that...
17:42 <PinkTomato> hence why I said come here :)
17:42 <smoothice> olol
17:42 <smoothice> I'll work on apache vhosts while you guys have a fit
17:42 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
17:42 <smoothice> be back soon after the f**k**g is done!
17:42 <teabot> armacommits: [old-glancing] r745 Merge with trunk...
17:43 <smoothice> PinkTomato: is Racing II run as root?
17:43 <epsy> .. /etc/arma/bin/ .. lol
17:44 <smoothice> lol
17:44 <smoothice> whatever
17:44 <BabyBug> smoothice, if someone actually managed to hack the arma server...They could have root access to your server if you ran arma as root...
17:44 <smoothice> ok
17:44 <smoothice> That would... sink
17:44 <smoothice> stink
17:44 <PinkTomato> epsy: the bash script, shouldn't that be start <<servername>> <<start|stop>>
17:45 <BabyBug> yes smoothice that would stink :P
17:45 <epsy> first off, all this shouldn't be in /etc
17:45 <BabyBug> /home/$USER/arma/ \o/
17:45 <smoothice> Should I make a new user for arma
17:45 <smoothice> adduser <username>
17:45 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I have several users, all using the same arma :)
17:45 <PinkTomato> smoothice: I guess so :)
17:46 <smoothice> PinkTomato: ok
17:47 <epsy> right that's fixt
17:47 <epsy> brb
17:47 <BabyBug> you missed a bit epsy :P
17:47 <PinkTomato> epsy missed a few bits
17:48 <PinkTomato> no wait, just one bit
17:48 <smoothice> PinkTomato: ok made new user
17:48 <smoothice> for arma
17:48 <epsy> ..like..WHAT bit?
17:49 <PinkTomato> you'ld still need to compile as root me thinks
17:49 <BabyBug> epsy, Ctrl+F /etc/arma
17:49 <PinkTomato> I have choose to install it in /etc/arma
17:49 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, compile as a normal user. make install as root
17:49 <epsy> unless you install in your own directory
17:50 <BabyBug> or that
17:50 <PinkTomato> ok, then smoothice you'll need to mv sty /home/armagetron/sty
17:51 <smoothice> ok
17:51 <PinkTomato> and then chown armagetron:armagetron sty ?
17:51 <smoothice> I'll just rebranch
17:51 <PinkTomato> or do that :)
17:52 <PinkTomato> I can still su <<user>> though? that's not bad practice is it?
17:52 <smoothice> yeah
17:52 <smoothice> su works
17:55 <PinkTomato> >> Port can be from 4534 to 4540... that's not correct is it ?
17:55 <BabyBug> port can be anything that's not taken
17:55 <smoothice> ./configure --prefix=/home/armagetron/armagetronservers/sty --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32
17:55 <PinkTomato> that's what i thought
17:56 <smoothice> Correct?
17:56 <BabyBug> 4534 to 4540 are the ports that get scanned for the LAN browser
17:56 <BabyBug> so for LAN games it's advisable to use those ports :P
17:56 <PinkTomato> ah I see :)
17:56 <smoothice> PinkTomato: ./configure --prefix=/etc/arma --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication CXXFLAGS=-DMAXCLIENTS=32
17:56 <smoothice> oops
17:56 <PinkTomato> smoothice: that sounds correct to me
17:56 <smoothice> ok
17:56 <smoothice> epsy?
17:57 <PinkTomato> --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-initscripts << I don't think you need these
17:57 <smoothice> wait
17:57 <PinkTomato> I don't know what they do, except --disable-initscripts
17:57 <smoothice> you have enable-armathenication?
17:57 <smoothice> you use armathenication?
17:57 <PinkTomato> Yeah, its the future of arma
17:58 <smoothice> ok
17:58 <smoothice> whatever lol
17:58 <PinkTomato> makes everything more safe
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17:58 <PinkTomato> and easier to manage
17:58 <PinkTomato> if you want userlevels, go for it
17:58 <PinkTomato> you probably get yelled at if you don't compile with it ;)
17:58 * BabyBug pokes Lucifer... When will armathentication be enabled by default?
17:59 * epsy is pretty much in favor of just dropping non-authentication builds
17:59 <epsy> sooner or later
18:00 <BabyBug> there must be something wrong with it at the moment though? for it not to be enabled?
18:00 <PinkTomato> lan games work better without auth
18:00 <epsy> but well, for now i'd say it should be enabled wthout auth
18:00 <epsy> PinkTomato, as long as server is configured properly
18:01 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I don't really know what it's waiting for at this point
18:01 <Lucifer> I've been out of the loop, heh
18:01 <BabyBug> oh
18:01 <PinkTomato> I think an add_admin <<user>> <<password>> would solve my lan game concern though
18:02 <epsy> it's more or less complete, except that you can't clear eUserConfigs
18:02 <PinkTomato> oh and that please :)
18:02 <epsy> PinkTomato, local_user user pass
18:02 <PinkTomato> ah that's two commands
18:02 <PinkTomato> then you need to user_level
18:02 <epsy> PinkTomato, user_level user level
18:02 <epsy> that's two different actions
18:03 <BabyBug> eUserConfigs?
18:03 <PinkTomato> people in lan games want one action
18:03 <Lucifer> ok, pushing it to the trunk
18:03 <BabyBug> pushing what to trunk?
18:03 <smoothice> PinkTomato: done configuring
18:03 <Lucifer> armathentication enabled by default
18:03 <smoothice> "make" and "make install" ?
18:03 <BabyBug> O.o
18:03 <BabyBug> \o/
18:03 <Lucifer> I don't know any reason it shouldn't be enabled by default there
18:03 <PinkTomato> make && make install
18:03 <epsy> BabyBug, these includes ACCESS_LEVEL, RESERVE_SCREEN_NAME and AUTHORITY_LEVEL
18:03 <BabyBug> woooo go Lucifer!
18:03 <BabyBug> epsy, ahhhh :)
18:04 <PinkTomato> smoothice: go grab a coffee or tea, your choice, it'll be a while
18:04 <smoothice> oops
18:04 <smoothice> I did make && make instal
18:04 <smoothice> lol
18:04 <Lucifer> now I'll go post about my problems trying to build test packages
18:04 <smoothice> It'll break at make instal
18:04 <PinkTomato> just type it when its done :)
18:04 <smoothice> ok
18:05 <epsy> *if* my setting structure change gets in, there shouldn't be any problem about this anymore, since it would be handled on a lower level(where it belongs IMO)
18:05 <PinkTomato> RESERVE_SCREEN_NAME < that action works?
18:05 <epsy> yes
18:05 <epsy> beware of typos
18:05 <epsy> i always stuff a R after reserve
18:05 <PinkTomato> I assume that reserves screen name for logged in user
18:05 <epsy> exactly
18:05 <BabyBug> lol epsy
18:06 <smoothice> PinkTomato: make finished... make installfinishes
18:06 <smoothice> finished
18:06 <PinkTomato> cd into the bin directory
18:07 <PinkTomato> ./armagetron-dedicated
18:07 <smoothice> armagetronad-dedicated armagetronad-dedicated-uninstall
18:07 <smoothice> w00t
18:07 <epsy> ct|kyle, the style of quote blocks changed, didn't it?
18:07 <smoothice> yes!
18:07 <smoothice> it works!
18:07 <PinkTomato> and I'll try connecting to atlanta047.ath.cx
18:07 <smoothice> ok
18:11 <epsy> how is that under competitions? http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18930
18:12 <epsy> Lucifer, um, can you move that?
18:12 <Lucifer> no, sorry
18:12 <Corn> @sd -v cafe
18:12 <teabot> Corn: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090102 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (0/32):
18:12 <epsy> Corn, I'm up for half an hour
18:12 -!- hang3r [n=nathan@ppp59-167-115-251.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has quit [Connection timed out]
18:12 <Corn> nah i cant really play on it i have 1200 ping wherever i go
18:12 <smoothice> PinkTomato: w00t
18:12 <Corn> just wanted to spec
18:13 <epsy> damn you..giving me false hopes Oo
18:13 <Corn> satelite connection :P
18:13 <epsy> haha
18:13 <Corn> im in pink's server with 1137 ping
18:13 <epsy> how that?
18:14 <Corn> @ls corn
18:14 <teabot> Corn: %|% Corn seems to be on {PinkTomato} Fortress Server right now.
18:14 <Lucifer> oh, my push failed, oops
18:15 <epsy> darn me assigning stuff to \n
18:15 <Corn> i was playing fort last night and judders asked me how i was even playing :o
18:15 <smoothice> @ls SmOoThice~NW
18:15 <teabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW seems to be on internalDrive -=- iD Tech Racing! right now.
18:15 <BabyBug> Do the forums have an rss feed?
18:15 <epsy> nope
18:15 <BabyBug> someone add an rss feed to the forums
18:15 <BabyBug> and then epsy add it too teabot
18:15 <Lucifer> ooo, I'll bet it's a zthread issue
18:16 <epsy> well, phpbb can't do that
18:16 <PinkTomato> >< forum flood
18:16 <BabyBug> Just new topics!
18:16 <BabyBug> Not new posts
18:16 <PinkTomato> curl it
18:16 <PinkTomato> every half hour
18:16 <PinkTomato> somehow
18:16 <epsy> and if we'd change forum software it would be for milestone 0.4, with the rest of the website
18:16 <smoothice> cron
18:16 <smoothice> cron job!
18:17 <BabyBug> it's not changing forum software..it's adding on!
18:17 <BabyBug> :P
18:17 <epsy> I've touched to phpbb code and I don't want to ever do that again
18:17 <Corn> i heard its a bitch to hack
18:17 <epsy> totally
18:17 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has joined #armagetron
18:17 <BabyBug> There's bound to be an RSS addon done already ><
18:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: can you use svnserve with multiple SVN repos?
18:18 <epsy> it's pretty much the same with almost every forum software out there
18:18 <epsy> and no, pre-made addons aren't better, it's adding code you dont know about to code you dont know about
18:18 <epsy> if I had to choose another forum software to switch to, it'd be bbpress, really
18:19 <smoothice> bbpress?
18:19 <epsy> there you can be happy
18:19 <smoothice> IPB rulesz
18:19 <epsy> IPB is not free
18:19 <epsy> doeqs not support plugins
18:19 <smoothice> so?
18:19 <epsy> do we want to promote unfree software? no
18:19 <epsy> especially when we can promote fresh free software that does 100× better
18:19 <smoothice> phpbb!
18:20 <epsy> phpbb SUCKS
18:20 <BabyBug> agreed
18:20 <smoothice> :(
18:20 <BabyBug> punbb \o/
18:20 <epsy> same
18:20 <BabyBug> liar
18:20 <smoothice> Powered by a camel and phpBB © 2001-2004 phpBB Group
18:20 <PinkTomato> its more that there is no other choice
18:20 <Lucifer> phpbb was written by all the asshats that post incompetent hacks in the php docs
18:20 <smoothice> punbb then?
18:20 <epsy> it looks lighter, but even the webpages are wrongly done
18:20 <PinkTomato> does the open source community like anyone?
18:20 <epsy> punbb ftl..
18:20 <smoothice> What's the best forum software then?
18:21 <smoothice> free
18:21 <BabyBug> Python Forum FTW!
18:21 <epsy> bbpress can do about as much as phpbb, just ... done correctly??
18:21 <Corn> I want to impregnate python
18:21 <epsy> #impregnate python
18:21 <@armabot> /me fertilizes python
18:21 <smoothice> #shun epsy
18:21 <PinkTomato> armabot has been busy..
18:21 <@armabot> epsy, you have been shunned.
18:22 <Corn> clearly armabot refuses
18:22 <PinkTomato> problem is, all these forum clones, they all have loyal small followings
18:22 <BabyBug> agreed!
18:22 <smoothice> forums.armagetronad.net
18:22 <smoothice> Apache/2.0.61 (Unix) PHP/4.4.7 mod_ssl/2.0.61 OpenSSL/0.9.7e mod_fastcgi/2.4.2 Phusion_Passenger/2.0.3 DAV/2
18:23 <smoothice> Phusion_Passenger?
18:23 <akira_arma> http://ignoranceisfutile.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/googles-ai-quest-to-become-god-on-earth/
18:23 <epsy> loyal small followings ?
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18:23 <epsy> bbpress is not a clone of anything
18:23 <PinkTomato> its a clone of the first person that thought up the idea of a forum
18:24 <PinkTomato> but not directly a clone in the programming sense
18:24 <epsy> oh dear..
18:24 <PinkTomato> ;)
18:24 <epsy> can we fast forward to
18:24 <epsy> OMG NOKIA COPIED IPHONE WHO COPIED LG PRADA OMG SHIT NOKIA
18:24 <BabyBug> Can we just fast forward to
18:24 <epsy> oh no! HTC was there before!
18:24 <BabyBug> Agree to disagree?
18:25 <PinkTomato> epsy: I only used the wrong word, and then attempted to justify it
18:25 <Lucifer> er, are zones v2 still not built by default?
18:25 <epsy> they are..
18:25 <epsy> PinkTomato, forum..software?
18:25 <Lucifer> ah, they are
18:26 <Lucifer> is there any real reason to keep the option to not build zones v2?
18:26 <PinkTomato> that was the word i was after :)
18:26 <epsy> probably to only build zones v1
18:26 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I thought zones 2 was incompatiable with zone1?
18:26 <epsy> well, it's both on
18:26 <epsy> depends on version specified by maps
18:26 <PinkTomato> epsy: makes sense
18:26 <Lucifer> yeah, the incompatibility that prevented us from releasing some time ago was that a trunk client couldn't play on a 0.2.8 server
18:27 <Lucifer> but that's fixed now
18:27 <epsy> PinkTomato, no, really, bbpress is a forum software of choice
18:27 <PinkTomato> it was an old forum post admittably ;)
18:27 <epsy> huh?
18:27 <epsy> BabyBug, also, new topics doesnt make much sense to me
18:28 <BabyBug> epsy, Why?
18:28 <epsy> because it's generally the replies to the topic which matters, not the topic itself?
18:29 <epsy> the other way around is rather blog-ish
18:29 <Lucifer> I just want threaded forum software
18:29 <epsy> oh dear no..threaded discussions are a pain to read
18:29 <BabyBug> well from the point of view from a person who doesn't read the forums, but occasionally sees interesting topics linked here...
18:29 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: Threaded?
18:29 <Lucifer> where, in a particular topic, replies are threaded too, rather than having a long list of replies
18:29 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: like how slashdot does it
18:29 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I have seen that done
18:29 <epsy> maybe with only 1 level of threading, but it stops here
18:30 <epsy> Lucifer, I wouldn't like to have that on each topic
18:30 <Lucifer> no! you need at least 3 to be able to track them
18:30 <Lucifer> that's because you're weird :)
18:30 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: like that: http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Board=btsupplier&Number=3530867&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=0&fpart= ?
18:30 <Lucifer> I setup my email client to thread every folder except my inbox :)
18:30 <epsy> it takes hours to read them
18:30 <Lucifer> no, it means you don't have to spend hours to read shit you don't want to read
18:30 <epsy> same here, inbox included
18:30 * BabyBug disagrees with Lucifer
18:31 <PinkTomato> good forum software lets you choose I guess
18:31 <epsy> yep, I don't want to read threaded comments
18:31 <epsy> bbpress lets you choose
18:31 <Lucifer> well that's terrible threading
18:31 <epsy> and I'd rather turn it off anyway
18:31 <Lucifer> that's threading done WRONG
18:31 <PinkTomato> oh yeah
18:31 <PinkTomato> for threading to work
18:31 <PinkTomato> you need to not have a choice
18:32 <PinkTomato> unless you run some a small patch to catch quotes
18:32 <PinkTomato> smoothice: on an armagetron-related note, how is the compile going?
18:32 <Lucifer> http://drupal.org/node/353741 <--- threading done RIGHT
18:33 <smoothice> PinkTomato: It worked, remember lol?
18:33 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/Lucifer1.png
18:33 <PinkTomato> smoothice: Oh yeah! hehe :D
18:33 <epsy> because one picture is worht a thousand words..
18:33 <BabyBug> Lucifer, that works...
18:33 <Lucifer> epsy: I clicked over to the link already provided, but thanks :)
18:33 <Lucifer> I said "like slashdot"
18:33 <PinkTomato> the problem is people don't think like threads
18:33 <Lucifer> I shoudl ahve said "like slashdot if you browse at -1"
18:34 <epsy> if it repeated the merssage's parent each time it is not visible I'm fine
18:34 <Lucifer> wel, with threading, you don't have to quote the parent anymore, it's obvious what you're replying to
18:34 <PinkTomato> surely though, you would always be replying to a topic related in the parent, so you shouldn't need threading
18:35 <Lucifer> a lot of threads try to break down into several related conversations
18:35 <PinkTomato> new tagents should be new thread
18:35 <epsy> Lucifer, yes, but the parent is too far away, still
18:35 <Lucifer> look at any release thread on the arma forums
18:35 <Lucifer> not tangents, different related conversations to the topic
18:35 <Lucifer> we try to get all posts on a particular topic confined to a thread, like in release threads
18:35 <PinkTomato> I see, new arma relase dosen't compile
18:35 <epsy> by the way, I have a test forum here: http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/bbpress/
18:35 <Lucifer> we do it for a reason
18:35 <PinkTomato> and you want to reply just to that
18:36 <PinkTomato> making that into a thread would make sense
18:36 <epsy> well, one level threading just does that fine
18:36 <Lucifer> right, but there could easily be 20 different topics under the release work thread
18:36 <smoothice> PinkTomato: be right back
18:36 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
18:36 <Lucifer> no, it doesn't
18:36 <BabyBug> epsy, How is there 1 post in AAAAA but 0 topics?
18:36 <Lucifer> a lot of converstaions in the original 0.3.1 thread were largely lost, and it was a real pain to reread the thread to get my bearings on 0.3.1
18:36 <epsy> because I did something wrong :P
18:36 <Lucifer> wtf is AAAAA?
18:37 <Lucifer> oh, epsy's forum test ;)
18:37 <epsy> 5 times the first letter of the alphabet
18:37 <PinkTomato> doesn't phpbb suffer that as well?
18:37 <PinkTomato> post dosen't go down when post deleted?
18:38 <epsy> well, that's an alpha, I hope they fixed it anyway
18:39 <epsy> BabyBug, that's fixt
18:40 <Lucifer> ah, epsy's having verb conjugation problems again, poor guy
18:40 <Lucifer> don't they make a pill for that?
18:40 <epsy> Lucifer, by the way, you can even have support threads
18:41 <epsy> I herd cyannure culd worke
18:41 <Lucifer> I'm just curious, maybe I missed the beginning of this conversation (ok, I did miss it)
18:41 <Lucifer> but are you trying to sell us on moving the arma forums to something else?
18:41 <epsy> BabyBug started it with her RSS feed :D
18:42 <epsy> but if I had to choose, bbpress would be my choice (now if you trust me or not because of this, that's something else)
18:42 <BabyBug> aye...I was saying the forums needed an rss feed Lucifer =P
18:43 <BabyBug> and then epsy started sounding like he was hired by bbpress
18:43 <Lucifer> no, he wasn't, he's just french, they all sound like that
18:43 <BabyBug> ahhh yeh
18:43 <BabyBug> keep forgetting that
18:43 <Lucifer> if it were my choice, it'd be drupal
18:43 <PinkTomato> would IRC threading work?
18:43 <BabyBug> How would one implement that exactly? lol
18:43 <Lucifer> no
18:44 <Lucifer> no way to track exactly what someone's responding to
18:44 <Lucifer> it works on forums because you click a "reply" link on a particular post
18:44 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: It would have to be a new protocol, which is not good
18:44 <BabyBug> unless every single thing gets given a random ID number...and you type /reply number message!
18:44 * Lucifer waits for luke-jr to tell us xmpp can do it
18:44 <PinkTomato> I was thinking one window views all like IRC
18:44 <PinkTomato> but no input
18:45 <PinkTomato> and then you can /join a window with an ID
18:45 <epsy> well, you join a channel
18:45 <epsy> one changes topic
18:45 <epsy> the channel splits in two
18:45 <epsy> etc etc
18:45 <Lucifer> the topic never changes here
18:45 <PinkTomato> but that wouldn't work for ubuntu for example
18:45 <BabyBug> arguably IRC does have threading... #armagetron and #armagetron.tourneys
18:45 <BabyBug> Threading!!
18:45 <epsy> the *converstation* topic
18:45 <epsy> BabyBug, that's merging, actually
18:45 <BabyBug> that's threading!
18:45 <PinkTomato> theres no global view that way though
18:45 <Lucifer> #armagetron.tourneys was a merge
18:46 <BabyBug> it's a thread!
18:46 <BabyBug> how is it a merge?
18:46 <epsy> #afl, #arma.fff, #arma-ladle -> #armagetron.tourneys = merge
18:46 <Lucifer> you need some way to note what you're saying to a particular topic
18:46 <epsy> that's what channels are for
18:46 <Lucifer> epsy had the bright idea of mergin all those channels when he noticed all the same players played all the different tourneys anyway
18:47 <epsy> haha
18:47 <PinkTomato> there was more than one .tourney?
18:47 <Lucifer> now, why the fuck is this particular file still getting into the makefile? :(
18:47 <epsy> PinkTomato, [17:46] <epsy>: #afl, #arma.fff, #arma-ladle -> #armagetron.tourneys = merge
18:48 <PinkTomato> Oh I understand now, good idea :D
18:48 <Lucifer> apparently I don't remember what make diist is suppposed to do
18:48 * BabyBug helps Lucifer along a little
18:49 <epsy> that's a good start
18:49 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
18:49 <Lucifer> well, it's hard to troubleshoot something when you don't actually know what the something is doing
18:49 <epsy> hello smooth~1
18:49 <smoothice> hi epsy~1
18:49 <Lucifer> anyway, I hacked the makefile to remove the file that was breaking it to see if that was the only problem, and now it's building the fucking game!
18:49 <epsy> erm no, it's not epsy~1
18:49 <PinkTomato> what's with 8.3 names?
18:49 <Lucifer> I guess I should go fart around for awhile
18:50 <epsy> very good idea
18:50 <BabyBug> bad idea!
18:50 <epsy> unless teabot thinks otherwise
18:50 <epsy> @8ball is that a good idea
18:50 <teabot> epsy: No chance.
18:50 <smoothice> #alias add fart say I farted.
18:50 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
18:50 <epsy> ah, well
18:50 <smoothice> #fart
18:50 <@armabot> I farted.
18:50 <epsy> LOLOL!
18:50 <smoothice> #alias add farton say I farted on $1.
18:50 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
18:50 <smoothice> #farton epsy
18:50 <@armabot> I farted on epsy.
18:50 <epsy> LOLOLOL!
18:50 <epsy> it's all lies
18:50 <Lucifer> #alias add fart "me farts on $1"
18:50 <smoothice> lol
18:50 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:51 <epsy> girls dont fart
18:51 <Lucifer> #fart smoothice
18:51 <epsy> i think it's /me
18:51 <Lucifer> duh
18:51 <epsy> witht the /
18:51 <Lucifer> #alias add fart echo "me farts on $1"
18:51 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:51 <Lucifer> #fart epsy
18:51 <@armabot> me farts on epsy
18:51 <Lucifer> er
18:51 <smoothice> lol
18:51 <epsy> #alias add fart "/me farts on $1"
18:51 <Lucifer> #me farts on epsy
18:51 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:51 <epsy> #me
18:51 <Lucifer> what happened to the me alias?
18:51 <epsy> #/me
18:51 * armabot
18:51 <smoothice> #alias add die say I died.
18:51 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
18:51 <smoothice> #die
18:51 <BabyBug> #action farts on epsy
18:51 <Lucifer> ah
18:51 * armabot farts on epsy
18:51 <Lucifer> #fart epsy
18:51 * armabot farts on epsy
18:52 <Lucifer> #fart BabyBug
18:52 <PinkTomato> #fart me
18:52 * armabot farts on BabyBug
18:52 * armabot farts on me
18:52 <smoothice> #die
18:52 <epsy> teabot, go open the window please
18:52 <Lucifer> you know what, this is just a really bad fart joke
18:52 <BabyBug> that's the last time i help you Lucifer!!
18:52 <Lucifer> #alias remove fart
18:52 <PinkTomato> @thank
18:52 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:52 <epsy> LOL
18:52 <Lucifer> #alias lock fart
18:52 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: There is no such alias.
18:52 <smoothice> #myip
18:52 <@armabot> smoothice: 83.243.117.49
18:52 <smoothice> muahaha
18:52 <BabyBug> #lock fart
18:52 <@armabot> BabyBug: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:52 <epsy> #alias add fart ignore
18:52 <BabyBug> arf
18:52 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:52 <Lucifer> #alias add fart echo Please don't tell stupid fart jokes.
18:52 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:52 <epsy> Lucifer, now you can lock
18:52 <Lucifer> #alias lock fart
18:52 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:52 <smoothice> #fart
18:52 <@armabot> Please don't tell stupid fart jokes.
18:52 <smoothice> lol
18:53 <smoothice> #alias remove fart
18:53 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: That alias is locked.
18:53 <smoothice> awww
18:53 <smoothice> lol
18:53 <smoothice> #farton epsy
18:53 <@armabot> I farted on epsy.
18:53 <smoothice> muahahah
18:53 <Lucifer> #alias add farton ignore
18:53 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:53 <smoothice> lol
18:53 <Lucifer> #alias lock farton
18:53 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:53 <epsy> #ignore
18:53 <BabyBug> #alias lock fart*
18:53 <@armabot> BabyBug: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:53 <epsy> #ignore
18:53 <epsy> #ignore
18:53 <epsy> #ignore
18:53 <BabyBug> would that work?
18:53 <epsy> nope
18:54 <BabyBug> armabot fails then
18:54 <epsy> code your own bot BabyBug
18:54 <Lucifer> what do you expect from a bot written in python?
18:54 <BabyBug> fine!
18:54 <epsy> I'll be happy to use it (or not)
18:54 <smoothice> Lucifer: farts
18:54 <BabyBug> I'll code a great one in python!
18:54 <epsy> :)
18:54 <Lucifer> #kick smoothice smart ass
18:54 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "smart ass"]
18:54 <BabyBug> (how complicated is the irc protocol?)
18:54 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-111-232.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
18:54 <smoothice> Do you mind?
18:54 <epsy> I know nothing to python, but you can import the irc
18:54 <Lucifer> no, I don't mind at all
18:55 <smoothice> *sigh*
18:55 <smoothice> whatever
18:55 <PinkTomato> #ptfort
18:55 <Lucifer> #roulette
18:55 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
18:55 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
18:55 <epsy> haha
18:55 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
18:55 <smoothice> #roulette
18:55 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
18:55 <PinkTomato> alias add ptfort si "{PinkTomato} Fortress Server"
18:55 <PinkTomato> #alias add ptfort si "{PinkTomato} Fortress Server"
18:55 <epsy> #success
18:55 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
18:55 <epsy> fail
18:55 <Lucifer> #alias add roulete Lucifer: *click*
18:55 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:55 <Lucifer> er
18:55 <Lucifer> #alias add roulete echo Lucifer: *click*
18:55 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:55 <Lucifer> #roulete
18:55 <@armabot> Lucifer: *click*
18:55 <PinkTomato> aw, am I not allowed alias?
18:56 <epsy> @roulette
18:56 <smoothice> lol
18:56 <epsy> too bad
18:56 <smoothice> #alias add ptfort "PinkTomato Fortress"
18:56 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
18:56 <epsy> @roulette
18:56 <smoothice> #ptfort
18:56 <Lucifer> what's the variable to get the user name that requested the alias?
18:56 <smoothice> $user
18:56 <epsy> $who
18:56 <smoothice> oh
18:56 <smoothice> lol
18:56 <Lucifer> #alias add roulete echo $user is trying to cheat!
18:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:56 <Lucifer> #roulete
18:56 <@armabot> n=satan is trying to cheat!
18:56 <epsy> lol
18:56 <Lucifer> no, not that one
18:56 <Lucifer> #alias add roulete echo $nick is trying to cheat!
18:56 <smoothice> #alias add kickepsy kick epsy
18:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:56 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
18:56 <Lucifer> #roulete
18:56 <smoothice> #kickepsy
18:56 <@armabot> Lucifer is trying to cheat!
18:56 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:57 <smoothice> awww
18:57 <Lucifer> #alias lock roulete
18:57 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:57 <epsy> #kickepsy
18:57 <@armabot> epsy: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:57 <epsy> bug :D
18:57 <BabyBug> #kickepsy
18:57 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BabyBug"]
18:57 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #armagetron
18:57 <BabyBug> O.o
18:57 <BabyBug> oops
18:57 <epsy> LOL!
18:57 <Lucifer> #admin capability add epsy #armagetron,op
18:57 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
18:57 <smoothice> fail
18:57 <BabyBug> sorry!
18:57 <epsy> #whoami
18:57 <@armabot> epsy: I don't recognize you.
18:57 <BabyBug> lol
18:57 <epsy> wont work until wrtl finally resets my account or adds my hostmask to it
18:58 <PinkTomato> do you need to be special to add alias'?
18:58 <smoothice> #alias add whoisbabybug whoami BabyBug
18:58 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
18:58 <smoothice> #whoisbabybug
18:58 <@armabot> smoothice: (whoami takes no arguments) -- Returns the name of the user calling the command.
18:58 <BabyBug> #alias remove kickepsy
18:58 <@armabot> BabyBug: The operation succeeded.
18:58 <BabyBug> far too tempting =x
18:58 <smoothice> lol
18:58 <BabyBug> and the alias spam is getting a bit too much :P
18:59 <smoothice> yeah
18:59 <smoothice> so
18:59 <smoothice> 0.2.8.3
18:59 <smoothice> WHEN?
18:59 <smoothice> No pressure
18:59 <smoothice> :P
18:59 <BabyBug> #alias remove whoisbabybug
18:59 <@armabot> BabyBug: The operation succeeded.
18:59 <epsy> Lucifer, or perhaps if you are able to run #hostmask add epsy n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
18:59 <Lucifer> #hostmask add epsy
18:59 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: That hostmask is already registered.
19:00 <BabyBug> fail
19:00 <epsy> you forgot the last part
19:00 <Lucifer> #hostmask add epsy n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:00 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: 'n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy' is not a valid hostmask. Make sure your hostmask includes a nick, then an exclamation point (!), then a user, then an at symbol (@), then a host. Feel free to use wildcards (* and ?, which work just like they do on the command line) in any of these parts.
19:00 <epsy> smoothice, when we stop with stupid fart jokes, TWG and start working on .2.8
19:00 <Lucifer> #hostmask add epsy epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:00 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: 'epsy@unaffiliated/epsy' is not a valid hostmask. Make sure your hostmask includes a nick, then an exclamation point (!), then a user, then an at symbol (@), then a host. Feel free to use wildcards (* and ?, which work just like they do on the command line) in any of these parts.
19:00 <smoothice> epsy: TWG?
19:00 <BabyBug> Lucifer, epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:00 <epsy> yeah, that
19:00 <Lucifer> #hostmask add epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:00 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
19:01 <epsy> #whoami
19:01 <@armabot> epsy: Lucifer_arma
19:01 <smoothice> #success
19:01 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
19:01 <PinkTomato> Lol
19:01 <Lucifer> smoothice: if it makes you feel any better, I'm working on 0.3.1 right now
19:01 <BabyBug> epsy, that was an epic fail command
19:01 <epsy> #hostmask add epsy epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:01 <@armabot> epsy: Error: That hostmask is already registered.
19:01 <smoothice> Lucifer: why not 2.8.3?
19:01 <epsy> #hostmask remove epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:01 <@armabot> epsy: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
19:01 <Lucifer> ok, now I'm running make distcheck and expecting it to fail
19:02 <Lucifer> that's probably not terribly smart, is it?
19:02 <BabyBug> Not really Lucifer
19:02 <epsy> Lucifer, ping, you still entered the wrong line
19:02 <epsy> #hostmask add epsy epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:02 <Lucifer> #hostmask add epsy epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:02 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
19:02 <epsy> heh, I probably logged you out
19:02 <Lucifer> #hostmask remove epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:02 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
19:03 <smoothice> how do I make my IRC hostname n=smoothice@unaffiliated/smoothice?
19:03 <Lucifer> haha, I just realized what I did
19:03 <epsy> did that already
19:03 <Lucifer> that's funny :)
19:03 <epsy> smoothice, ask a staffer
19:03 <smoothice> staffer?
19:03 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer
19:03 <BabyBug> your sloooooow today :P
19:03 <epsy> smoothice, did you register your nick?
19:03 <smoothice> epsy: yes
19:03 <Lucifer> BabyBug: hey, I was watching my make distcheck
19:03 <epsy> smoothice, go in #freenode and ask a staffer to set an unaffilated cloak on you
19:03 <epsy> (on your nick)
19:03 <smoothice> ok
19:04 <BabyBug> Lucifer, that's no excuse for giving epsy for control of armabot!
19:04 <BabyBug> :P
19:04 <BabyBug> full*
19:04 <epsy> luci does not have full control of armabot, afaik
19:04 <Lucifer> I can't see any reason epsy shouldn't have control of armabot, and I don't have full control of armabot anyway
19:04 <Lucifer> I mean, all epsy would do is make armabot surrender
19:04 <BabyBug> oh stupid technicalities
19:04 * Lucifer is in an odd mood right now
19:04 <BabyBug> Now ya just trying to cover up embarrasing mistakes by saying they're right =P
19:05 <epsy> Lucifer, can you please log in to armabot and allow me to finally get my account working right :x
19:05 <Lucifer> #whoami
19:05 <@armabot> Lucifer: Lucifer_arma
19:05 <epsy> #whoami
19:05 <@armabot> epsy: I don't recognize you.
19:05 <Lucifer> #hostmask add epsy epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:05 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
19:05 <Lucifer> I can't do it, apparently
19:05 <Lucifer> #hostmask
19:05 <@armabot> Lucifer: Lucifer!n=satan@75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net
19:05 <Lucifer> #hostmask add
19:05 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
19:06 <Lucifer> #hostmask remove
19:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
19:06 <BabyBug> #help hostmask
19:06 <@armabot> BabyBug: (hostmask [<nick>]) -- Returns the hostmask of <nick>. If <nick> isn't given, return the hostmask of the person giving the command.
19:06 <Lucifer> I'm scared now
19:06 <BabyBug> #admin hostmask
19:06 <BabyBug> doh
19:06 <Lucifer> epsy: I don't think I can do it for you
19:06 <Lucifer> #help hostmask add
19:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: (hostmask add [<name>] [<hostmask>] [<password>]) -- Adds the hostmask <hostmask> to the user specified by <name>. The <password> may only be required if the user is not recognized by hostmask. If you include the <password> parameter, this message must be sent to the bot privately (not on a channel). <password> is also not required if an owner user is giving the command on behalf of (1 more message)
19:06 <epsy> grm
19:07 <Lucifer> you have to do it for yourself, eh?
19:07 <Lucifer> #admin capability add epsy hostmask,add
19:07 <BabyBug> epsy, don't you know the password?
19:07 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
19:07 <Lucifer> #list admin
19:07 <@armabot> Lucifer: capability add, capability remove, channels, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, join, nick, and part
19:07 <Lucifer> #list owner
19:07 <@armabot> Lucifer: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep
19:07 <epsy> Lucifer, I can't, lost my password, eh
19:07 <Lucifer> #list user
19:07 <Lucifer> #list
19:07 <@armabot> Lucifer: capabilities, changename, hostmask, hostmask add, hostmask list, hostmask remove, identify, list, register, set password, set secure, stats, unidentify, unregister, username, and whoami
19:08 <@armabot> Lucifer: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
19:08 <epsy> except if you can set my password
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19:08 <PinkTomato> can't you unregister and then register?
19:08 <PinkTomato> oh wait
19:08 <epsy> um
19:08 <PinkTomato> I see the flaw
19:08 <PinkTomato> sorry
19:08 <epsy> I can't unregister no
19:08 <Lucifer> epsy: I can't, but wrtlprnft can
19:08 <Lucifer> you have to be an owner to do that, apparently
19:08 <epsy> well, let's head for the 3rd try
19:09 <epsy> #later tell wrtlprnft can you *please* run #hostmask add epsy epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
19:09 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:09 <Lucifer> automake is fucking stupid
19:09 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no it's not!
19:09 * Lucifer hates automake
19:09 <Lucifer> yes it is
19:09 <Lucifer> look at this:
19:09 <BabyBug> not!
19:09 <epsy> it's better than autopython
19:10 <Lucifer> autom4te: cannot create autom4te.cache: Permission denied
19:10 <Lucifer> why was permission denied?
19:10 <Lucifer> well, look at what it put in the fucking tarball:
19:10 <Lucifer> dr-xr-xr-x 17 dave dave 4096 2009-01-03 12:02 armagetronad-0.3_alpha20090103
19:10 <Lucifer> now, does that make any sense?
19:10 <epsy> lol
19:10 <Lucifer> now I have to check it by hand, or figure out why it did that in the tarball in the first place
19:10 <epsy> it's a disguised sudoers file
19:11 <Lucifer> well, I can't check it by hand, because....
19:11 <Lucifer> THAT'S A BROKEN TARBALL NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT!
19:11 <Lucifer> grrr
19:11 -!- smoothice is now known as smoothice_
19:11 * BabyBug knows how to fix it!
19:12 <epsy> BabyBug saves the day
19:12 -!- smoothice_ is now known as smoothice
19:12 * BabyBug actually has no idea.......
19:12 <epsy> (time for her to time out)
19:12 <BabyBug> lol
19:13 <smoothice> epsy: thanks
19:13 <smoothice> epsy: it worked
19:13 <epsy> #last --from epsy --with smoothice
19:13 <@armabot> epsy: [19:03:49] <epsy> smoothice, go in #freenode and ask a staffer to set an unaffilated cloak on you
19:14 <Lucifer> it got even worse when I looked inside the directory
19:14 <epsy> ah, yw
19:14 <smoothice> lol
19:14 <Lucifer> I suspect a problem on my machine, now
19:14 <PinkTomato> :(
19:14 <PinkTomato> permissions are annyoying
19:14 <BabyBug> sudo chmod -R 777 /
19:14 <BabyBug> \o/
19:14 <PinkTomato> lol :D
19:15 <Lucifer> sudo echo BabyBug, shut the fuck up!
19:15 <epsy> and then you will see it will be even more annoying
19:15 <epsy> and don't talk about making sandwhiches
19:15 <BabyBug> =(
19:15 <Lucifer> heh
19:15 <Lucifer> epsy: make me a sandwich
19:15 <epsy> -actually, I'd make myself one
19:15 <epsy> #kick Lucifer
19:15 <@armabot> epsy: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:15 <Lucifer> haha
19:16 <Lucifer> #kick epsy you need to remember your armabot password!
19:16 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "you need to remember your armabot password!"]
19:17 <BabyBug> Now you've upset him =(
19:18 <Lucifer> heh, he didn't come back :)
19:18 <Lucifer> I'm just going to disable ruby entirely for now
19:19 <Lucifer> it's not really ready for release anyway
19:19 <BabyBug> hrmm? that's what's causing the problem?
19:19 <PinkTomato> something that is not used
19:19 <Lucifer> well, ruby's kind of half-baked still
19:19 <Lucifer> ruby support, I mean
19:19 <Lucifer> and one of the files that swig generates is listed to be distributed, because automake typically distributes generated sources like that
19:19 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has joined #aRmAGeTRoN
19:19 <Lucifer> re epsy
19:20 <BabyBug> wb
19:20 <epsy> re
19:20 <epsy> what was I supposed to do already?
19:21 <epsy> ah
19:21 <epsy> ..admin abuse..
19:22 <Lucifer> hey, it appears to be working
19:22 <BabyBug> \o/
19:22 * BabyBug hands Lucifer a cookie \o/
19:22 <Lucifer> awww, didn't work
19:23 * BabyBug steals the cookie back
19:23 <epsy> http://qdb.us/289288
19:24 <Lucifer> tar: armagetronad-0.3_alpha20090103/resource/included/Lucifer/ThreePlayerFortress/BaseInvertedCrossFortress-0.2.4.aamap.xml: file name is too long (max 99); not dumped <------ WTF???
19:24 <BabyBug> the file name is too long!
19:25 <MrBougo> * epsy (n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy) has joined #aRmAGeTRoN
19:25 * BabyBug hides
19:25 <MrBougo> #aRmAGeTRoN ?
19:25 <epsy> yes, you can copypaste!
19:26 <Lucifer> I can't join that channel
19:26 <Lucifer> is that what happens to people who are /removed from here?
19:26 <Lucifer> #kick Lucifer
19:26 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "Lucifer"]
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19:26 <epsy> depends how you you capitalize it
19:27 <BabyBug> just /join #aRmAGeTRoN
19:27 <epsy> BabyBug, don't join, JUST SHOOT
19:27 <BabyBug> just shoot...ePsY
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19:27 <MrBougo> eh.
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19:28 <Lucifer> ahhh, I see what's going on now
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19:28 <BabyBug> \o/
19:28 * PinkTomato does not see
19:28 <MrBougo> fun.
19:28 <ct|kyle> epsy: Nope
19:28 <epsy> MrBougo, pretty much only works on freenode, sadly
19:28 <epsy> ct|kyle, ok
19:28 <MrBougo> funny
19:29 <Lucifer> for some reason, while doing make distcheck, make triggers the bootstrap targets and tries to rerun the autotools
19:29 <ct|kyle> epsy: if you don't put in a name, then it does not show that top bar
19:29 <Lucifer> make distcheck intentionally sets the permissions like it does to ensure that nothing gets written int he source dir
19:30 <Lucifer> so it's not like that in the tarball
19:30 <Lucifer> this hopefully means that something was just borked for me
19:31 * BabyBug is trying to interpret if that is good or bad
19:32 <Lucifer> if it results in me getting make distcheck to pass, then it's good
19:32 <BabyBug> \o/
19:33 <epsy> /o\
19:33 <Lucifer> nope, keeps trying to run autotools
19:34 <Lucifer> #bzr
19:34 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)
19:35 <Lucifer> ah oh, I think I just screwied up
19:35 <smoothice> bzr branch = bzr co?
19:35 <epsy> no
19:35 <Lucifer> oh, maybe not
19:35 <smoothice> epsy: no?
19:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: no, xmpp cannot read minds
19:35 <Lucifer> epsy: would you be wililng to pull the trunk and try make distcheck?
19:35 <Lucifer> see if it's just my system? ;)
19:36 <epsy> smoothice, the doc explains it better than I would ever do, and on top of that it does it quickly - see the workflows section
19:36 <Lucifer> luke-jr: of course not, it's just a protocol, protocols can't read minds!
19:36 <luke-jr> freeciv anyone?
19:36 <epsy> Lucifer, at rev 744 ?
19:37 <Lucifer> yeah, that's the one
19:37 <epsy> damn :)
19:37 <Lucifer> heh
19:37 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: does your server work?
19:37 <Lucifer> just run it and forget about it :)
19:37 <Lucifer> renice it to 15 if you want
19:37 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: which one?
19:37 <PinkTomato> the TWG thingy
19:37 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: yeah
19:37 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: wanna play?
19:37 <PinkTomato> I couldn't get the !join to work
19:37 <luke-jr> we need at least 4 players
19:37 <epsy> nah, it's not long anymore for me to copy new branches, I finally set ~/CODE/ as a bzr repository
19:37 <PinkTomato> I have to go in a minute
19:38 <luke-jr> pft
19:38 <epsy> from what I've seen it really seems to be avoiding having the same rev 8 times
19:38 <PinkTomato> i know, sorry :), I'll learn the rules for next time ;)
19:38 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: technically, just ! works too
19:39 <epsy> Lucifer, any specific configure flag?
19:39 <Lucifer> epsy: none
19:39 <Lucifer> if it has the same problem I've got, it won't get far
19:39 <Lucifer> if it doesn't, it'll build the game like 3 times
19:40 <epsy> it started compiling the main stuff
19:40 <luke-jr> Lucifer: [0] Waiting for real players (only spectators online)…
19:40 <luke-jr> Lucifer: does that msg serve a purpose?
19:40 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yes
19:40 <epsy> it is shown as console_message
19:40 <luke-jr> yeah, I know
19:40 <luke-jr> but it's annoying
19:40 <epsy> but well, if it didn't spam scrollback, that would be neat
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19:41 <Lucifer> crap, 0.2.8 has a higher rev then trunk
19:41 <epsy> it had, for a long time now, on bzr branches
19:41 * luke-jr would think the center_message would be enough
19:41 <epsy> that does show up in logs as well doesnt it?
19:41 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8725 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): dave@davefancella.com: Enable armathentication by default
19:41 <luke-jr> no
19:41 <Lucifer> heh, that took long enough
19:42 <luke-jr> should setup a bzr hook to do it on commit
19:42 <epsy> err
19:42 <epsy> autotools are kicking in
19:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8726 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/Makefile.am src/swig/Makefile.am): dave@davefancella.com: Can make dist, but still failing make distcheck
19:42 <epsy> luke-jr, cia tracking?
19:43 <Lucifer> wtf? I ran make distclean in 0.2.8, and it's building the game!
19:43 <luke-jr> epsy: bzr->svn sync
19:43 <luke-jr> Lucifer: yeah, that's annoying
19:43 <epsy> ah, well, that would be on clients then
19:43 <epsy> perhaps base yourself on the cia plugin?
19:43 <epsy> cd .. && /bin/sh /home/epsy/CODE/armagetron/armagetronad/armagetronad-0.3_alpha20090103/missing --run aclocal-1.10
19:43 <epsy> autom4te: cannot create autom4te.cache: Permission non accordée
19:43 <epsy> aclocal-1.10: autom4te failed with exit status: 1
19:44 <luke-jr> bzr hooks are on clients? :/
19:44 <Lucifer> epsy: yep, that's what it did to me, thanks :)
19:44 <Lucifer> luke-jr: bzr server is a ssh server
19:44 <epsy> luke-jr, well, we can't install hooks at launchpad
19:44 <luke-jr> Lucifer: same w/ svn in many cases
19:44 <luke-jr> epsy: oh
19:44 <luke-jr> so LP has the same problem SF does ;/
19:44 <epsy> well, there is not really any actual bzr server, in general
19:44 <Lucifer> svn servers I've seen have been run through apache
19:45 <luke-jr> settign them up thru Apache is a pain
19:45 <luke-jr> svnserve and svn+ssh is far easier
19:45 <epsy> but you need mod_subversion
19:45 <epsy> which turns apache into a subvrsion server
19:45 <epsy> doesnt it?
19:45 <Lucifer> yeah, but you can apt-get what you need and it just works
19:45 <epsy> bzr+ssh will just use the bzrlib in place on the server
19:46 <Lucifer> it's only a pain if you're running inferior OS distributions
19:46 <luke-jr> epsy: same w/ svn+ssh
19:46 <epsy> luke-jr, with added spice!
19:46 <Lucifer> I'm gonna go smoke while I wait for this disaster to sorrt itself out
19:46 <luke-jr> no freeciv then?
19:47 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no new years resolution to give up smoking? :P
19:48 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r744 Can make dist, but still failing make distcheck || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r743 Enable armathentication by default
19:48 <epsy> Lucifer, well, these RSS feeds are slow
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20:21 <smoothice> Is the trunk fixed?
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20:25 <smoothice> Lucifer: How about we all go back to svn and be done with it:)
20:27 <Lucifer> smoothice: trunk still works fine, I'm working on stuff that doesn't affect people who are just building and running from the trunk
20:28 <smoothice> Lucifer: When I checkout trunk and build it compiles fine but I get seg. fault when I run it
20:28 <smoothice> Lucifer: on Mac OS X
20:29 <Lucifer> smoothice: is this the same problem you've been having, or a new problem?
20:30 <smoothice> I've had this problem for a while.. the last trunk rev that worked for me was 726
20:30 <Lucifer> is there a backtrace somewhere on launchpad associated with this problem? ;)
20:30 <smoothice> Lucifer: not at the moment.. but I did do one once and it reported problems in tConfiguration.cpp
20:30 <smoothice> I'll generate a new one soon
20:30 <luke-jr> distcheck fails for 0.2.8 here
20:31 <luke-jr> and leaves a directory that rm -rf can't clean up
20:31 <Lucifer> hmmm, I just started it in 0.2.8
20:31 <luke-jr> I wonder if that's a bug in rm
20:31 <Lucifer> did it build anything for you?
20:31 <Lucifer> no, if you look at the directory, nobody has write permissions to it
20:31 <luke-jr> it built and complained about leftover files
20:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer: rm -f should get around that
20:32 <Lucifer> distcheck does that intentionally so it will fail if anything tried to write to that directory
20:32 <Lucifer> no, -f just suppressess the "Doo you want to delete this file?" prompt
20:32 <luke-jr> -f also ignores -w on the file itself
20:32 <luke-jr> that prompt doesn't happen by default
20:37 <smoothice> #dns atlanta047.ath.cx
20:37 <@armabot> Host not found.
20:37 <smoothice> #dns google.com
20:37 <@armabot> Host not found.
20:37 <smoothice> wtf ^ ?
20:37 <BabyBug> @dns google.com
20:37 <teabot> BabyBug: 72.14.205.100
20:37 <BabyBug> @dns atlanta047.ath.cx
20:37 <teabot> BabyBug: 66.71.249.140
20:37 <luke-jr> any idea if QBzr is useful?
20:38 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: DNS on armabot is broken
20:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: qbzr is demented
20:41 <luke-jr> smoothice: of course DNS on armabot is broken
20:41 <smoothice> luke-jr: why?
20:41 <luke-jr> DNS is always broken in general
20:41 <smoothice> @dns google.com
20:41 <smoothice> ]dns google.com
20:41 <teabot> smoothice: 72.14.205.100
20:41 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "dns" is not a valid command.
20:41 <smoothice> It works on teabot
20:42 <luke-jr> :þ
20:42 <luke-jr> [13:37:37] <BabyBug> @dns google.com
20:42 <luke-jr> [13:37:42] <teabot> BabyBug: 72.14.205.100
20:42 <BabyBug> Hi?
20:42 <luke-jr> o
20:42 <luke-jr> that was teabot too
20:42 <luke-jr> BabyBug: O HAI
20:42 <BabyBug> HI THAR!
20:42 <smoothice> luke-jr: o hai thar
20:43 <BabyBug> air hair lair <--- The posh british way of saying, Oh hello there.
20:43 <luke-jr> …
20:44 <BabyBug> That's something even americans can understand!
20:58 <smoothice> ;p;
21:04 -!- Corn [n=Corn@174.33.245.44] has quit ["Leaving"]
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21:10 <epsy> luke-jr, that looks good
21:10 <epsy> [qbzr]
21:11 <BabyBug> epsy looks good \o/
21:12 <epsy> not really :\
21:12 <BabyBug> ...
21:12 <BabyBug> self esteem epsy!!
21:13 <epsy> realism
21:15 <BabyBug> pssht
21:15 <luke-jr> epsy: looks good is a matter of opinion
21:15 <luke-jr> there is no realism
21:15 <luke-jr> therefore, you are not being realistic, but pessimistic
21:15 <BabyBug> \o/
21:16 <BabyBug> go luke-jr!
21:16 <epsy> as long as one thinks nooses that shift in one direction makes one nice, you're right
21:17 <luke-jr> ah, but the nose does not need to make you look nice
21:17 <luke-jr> you could look nice DESPITE the nose
21:17 <luke-jr> worst case scenario
21:17 <epsy> I would know that
21:18 <epsy> argh...SH
21:19 * luke-jr gives epsy a hug.
21:21 * BabyBug sexes epsy up
21:24 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac9ebfd.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
21:27 * BabyBug covers the Potato in red!
21:28 <luke-jr> Lucifer: no reason we need to support new maps using 0.2.8_beta3 DTD, do we?
21:30 * PinkTomato runs away!
21:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
21:35 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, failz
21:36 <PinkTomato> :P
21:37 <PinkTomato> ptfort
21:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
21:37 <PinkTomato> #ptfort
21:37 <@armabot> PinkTomato: {PinkTomato} Fortress Server: Players (0/26):
21:37 <Corn> @sd -v cafe
21:37 <teabot> Corn: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090102 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (2/32): firefpk96, flush
21:38 <BabyBug> Corn, why don't you add it as a server bookmark?
21:38 <BabyBug> and why can't you browser the servers?
21:39 <PinkTomato> Corn: try BROWSER_
21:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
21:39 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it was only one file left in the build directory
21:39 <Lucifer> not sure where it came from, but the important thing is the 0.2.8 branch got waaay past the trunk
21:40 <Lucifer> I guess I'd better figure out why the trunk won't pass distcheck
21:42 * BabyBug is still ready and waiting for the packages! *shuts up now*
21:42 <Lucifer> heh
21:42 <Lucifer> the autopackage *might* build now, it doesn't have to pass distcheck to get an autopackage out of it
21:42 <BabyBug> What does distcheck actually do? (or did you not figure that out :P)
21:43 <Lucifer> it builds a source release tarball, then decompresses it, builds the game, does distclean, and checks to see what's left
21:43 <BabyBug> Hrmmm...What's the point of that?
21:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
21:43 <Lucifer> I think it might build a second source release tarball from the source tarball, and test that, too
21:43 <Lucifer> to make sure the files distributed are all that's needed, and that the vpath build works
21:44 <BabyBug> oh
21:44 <Lucifer> if any files are missing, the build will fail
21:44 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m550e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
21:45 <BabyBug> well...makes sense i guess ^^
21:45 <Lucifer> we have a bit of a rule that a release has to pass distcheck before we can release
21:45 <Lucifer> we can test all sorts of stuff, but to get a version number, it has to pass distcheck
21:45 <BabyBug> lol...that's just silly :P
21:45 <Lucifer> ok, it appears the autopackage is building
21:46 <BabyBug> \o/
21:46 <BabyBug> You should make a .deb!
21:46 <Lucifer> er, no, it's not silly, a package that passes distcheck is more likely to be of high quality (in terms of distribution, not in terms of good software) than a package that doesn't
21:47 <ivantis2> am i unbanned yet?
21:47 <Lucifer> to be quite honest, I consider the minimum 0.3.1 release to be a source tarball, windows installer, mac package, and autopackage
21:47 <BabyBug> more likely...Doesn't mean it will beeeeee =P (yes i know i'm splitting hairs there)
21:47 <Lucifer> #kick ivantis2 don't ask stupid questions
21:47 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m550e36d0.tmodns.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "don't ask stupid questions"]
21:47 <Lucifer> oh good, it failed
21:48 <BabyBug> wonderful!
21:48 * BabyBug cracks open the champagne
21:48 <Lucifer> ../../builds/b_0.3_alpha20090103/B1/armagetronad-0.3_alpha20090103/src/resource/tResourceManager.h:35:19: error: tDict.h: No such file or directory
21:48 <PinkTomato> no one ever built a dictionary did they?
21:49 <BabyBug> built a what?
21:49 <BabyBug> oh
21:49 <BabyBug> i see
21:49 <BabyBug> sorry
21:49 <PinkTomato> guessing from the filename
21:49 <BabyBug> blonde moment
21:49 <BabyBug> ya
21:49 * BabyBug stops using enter as punctuation ><
21:49 <PinkTomato> how would that even work?
21:50 <smoothice> PinkTomato: hai thar
21:50 <Lucifer> it's a header that just makes a std::map<tString, *>
21:50 <Lucifer> er
21:50 <Lucifer> it's a header that just makes a std::map<tString, T>
21:50 <BabyBug> TMI
21:50 <PinkTomato> hi smoothice
21:50 <Lucifer> in fact, I made it, heh
21:50 <Lucifer> so this is my fault this time ;)
21:50 <PinkTomato> :D
21:51 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer, finally owning up to something? :P
21:51 * BabyBug gets the camera!
21:51 <smoothice> #dns google.com
21:51 <@armabot> Host not found.
21:51 <Lucifer> oh no, it's still your fault somehow, BabyBug
21:51 <BabyBug> ><
21:51 <Lucifer> even though you weren't around here when I made it...
21:51 * BabyBug cries
21:51 <BabyBug> lol
21:51 * smoothice :/
21:51 <BabyBug> what did you make it?
21:51 <BabyBug> when*
21:51 <PinkTomato> is --lucifer always wins still in the trunk?
21:51 <Lucifer> afaik, why?
21:52 <Lucifer> BabyBug: not sure, to be honest, a year ago, maybe longer?
21:52 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: if it's still there, it''ll be in 0.3.1 ;)
21:52 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Oh ok. Newp possible link to me then =P
21:52 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: :D
21:53 <Lucifer> ok, now I'm pissed
21:53 <Lucifer> hmmmm
21:53 <BabyBug> uhhh
21:53 <BabyBug> pissed?
21:53 <Lucifer> american pissed, not UK pissed
21:53 <BabyBug> like angry/annoyed?
21:53 <Lucifer> I realize that's a word that means starkly different things depending on which side of the pond you're on
21:54 <PinkTomato> along with sick
21:54 <BabyBug> it's slightly bigger than a pond hunni xD
21:54 <Lucifer> hmmmm, this requires deeper inspection
21:55 * Lucifer removes armagetron's shirt
21:55 <BabyBug> that's what she said ;)
21:55 <BabyBug> Ok i'll really shut up this time =x
21:57 <BabyBug> (this would be the point one where someone says "no no it's fine baby")
22:01 <Lucifer> I don't see anybody saying that
22:01 * BabyBug cries
22:02 * Lucifer wants to replace the makefile in the build module withh a python script
22:02 <BabyBug> You got my vote!
22:02 <PinkTomato> won't that make it fail make distclean?
22:02 <Lucifer> yeah, but the only reason I want to do it is so I'll understand what it does :)
22:03 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: no, the build module is separate and contains release building stuff
22:03 <PinkTomato> ah right :), assuming you meant what I actually meant make distcheck
22:03 <PinkTomato> make distclean would wipe the compiled source, i think
22:04 <epsy> but run autotools first
22:04 <Lucifer> no, this is a pretty custom makefile
22:06 <luke-jr> any idea how to branch on LP?
22:06 <Lucifer> bzr branch
22:06 <epsy> in the way svn means it?
22:06 <luke-jr> Lucifer: how do I get it on LP tho?
22:06 <epsy> push
22:06 <Lucifer> bzr push lp:yadayada
22:06 <smoothice> register the branch
22:06 <luke-jr> …
22:07 <luke-jr> the original project is not on LP
22:07 <luke-jr> I want the branch to be
22:07 <epsy> you don't need to register it first
22:07 <Lucifer> then you have to create the project, or put it in +junk
22:07 <epsy> put it in your junk folder
22:07 <luke-jr> O.o
22:07 <luke-jr> but how?
22:07 <Lucifer> I'd put it in +junk unless you have reason to create a project for it
22:07 <BabyBug> https://help.launchpad.net/BzrHowto \o/
22:07 <epsy> lp:~you/+junk/branchname
22:07 <epsy> and what BabyBug said, too
22:07 <epsy> er
22:07 -!- dlh [n=dlh@70.88.244.226] has joined #armagetron
22:07 <epsy> no
22:08 <smoothice> dlh: the latest trunk doesn't run on mac os x
22:08 <smoothice> dlh: it outputs seg. fault
22:09 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
22:09 <luke-jr> can anyone bzr get http://bzr.malept.com/bazaar-overlay/ ?
22:09 <PinkTomato> it is empty
22:10 <dlh> smoothice: the client doesn't work?
22:10 <smoothice> dlh: dedicated server
22:10 <Lucifer> typedef std::map< tString, tResourceType::Reference > tResourceTypeMap; <--- what's wrong with this line?
22:10 <smoothice> dlh: I'll have a backtrace in one second
22:10 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Are you asking because you don't know?
22:10 <Lucifer> heh, yes
22:10 <epsy> gah, typedefs are annoying
22:10 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: what am I fetching?
22:11 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: a Gentoo overlay
22:11 <epsy> what does it give for an error?
22:11 <luke-jr> bzr crashes with it when I try
22:11 <PinkTomato> Its worked now
22:11 <luke-jr> :/
22:11 <BabyBug> luke-jr, bzr crashed here to
22:11 <luke-jr> what version?
22:11 <PinkTomato> 1.3.1
22:11 <BabyBug> O.o
22:11 <epsy> time to split the channel
22:12 <Lucifer> epsy: it looks like the <<Map> header wasn't being included there
22:12 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: want me to archive it and stick on a webserver for a while?
22:13 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: no
22:13 <PinkTomato> ok
22:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: what ver do you use?
22:13 <BabyBug> 1.9
22:13 <PinkTomato> :S
22:13 <luke-jr> i c
22:13 <luke-jr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-gentoo-overlay/+bug/313555
22:13 <BabyBug> and you? :P
22:13 <teabot> Launchpad bug 313555 in bzr-gentoo-overlay "Bazaar has encountered an internal error checking out bzr-gentoo-overlay" [Undecided,New]
22:13 <dlh> smoothice: i got the segfault too. no need to post your bt
22:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: plz "affects me too"
22:13 <epsy> awk '{ print "#define TRUE_ARMAGETRONAD_" $1 " " $2 }' <-- if this is in Makefile.am, does the $ need to be escaped?
22:13 <luke-jr> I tried 1.6.1, 1.9, and 1.10
22:13 <luke-jr> 1.3.1 is too old for Gentoo :/
22:13 <BabyBug> there's a 1.10?
22:13 <smoothice> dlh: ok... so it isn't just me that's having the problem?
22:14 <luke-jr> yes
22:14 <epsy> luke-jr, what happened?
22:14 <epsy> BabyBug, I'm using it
22:14 <smoothice> dlh: do you know the cause?
22:14 <luke-jr> epsy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr-gentoo-overlay/+bug/313555
22:14 <dlh> i'm looking at it right now. i'll ping you when I find a fix
22:14 <smoothice> dlh: ok thanks
22:15 <epsy> get ?
22:16 <PinkTomato> I thought it was branch?
22:16 <epsy> that's an alias of branch
22:16 <PinkTomato> ah right
22:16 <BabyBug> happens with co aswell though
22:17 <BabyBug> so that's neither here nor there \o/
22:17 <epsy> bzr: ERROR: Lock not held: LockableFiles(lock, http://bzr.malept.com/.bzr/repository/)
22:18 <epsy> but no crash
22:19 <luke-jr> yeah
22:19 <luke-jr> forgot to note that difference with 1.10
22:19 <epsy> that just sounds like a messed up repo
22:20 * BabyBug agrees!
22:20 * Lucifer agrees with BabyBug.
22:20 <luke-jr> epsy: I also-affects the repo too :þ
22:20 <Lucifer> hey BabyBug (hi there!) , 2 years ago you were half my age
22:20 <epsy> hm?
22:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.5.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
22:20 <luke-jr> epsy: note it worked for PinkTomato's old 1.3.1 tho
22:20 <PinkTomato> bzr branch lp:bzr-gentoo-overlay
22:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yes i was. Is that leading onto something or was it random?
22:21 <Lucifer> random
22:21 <PinkTomato> that worked on 1.6r5
22:21 <BabyBug> You're...34?
22:21 <BabyBug> yes you must be \o/
22:21 * BabyBug couldn't remember from yesterday
22:21 <epsy> he is
22:21 <epsy> lp:bzr-gentoo-overlay works
22:21 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: but its r187, and the other link is r195
22:22 <PinkTomato> as quoted on lp: This branch may be out of date, because Launchpad has not been able to access it since 2008-12-05.
22:23 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, did you say it was empty though when you did it?
22:23 <PinkTomato> When you access it via HTTP
22:23 <BabyBug> ah
22:23 <Lucifer> grrrr
22:23 <PinkTomato> I guessed afterwards its something to do with it needing bzr protocol
22:24 <BabyBug> :P
22:24 <Lucifer> ../../builds/b_0.3_alpha20090103/B4/armagetronad-0.3_alpha20090103/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp:4932: error: no match for ‘operator<<’ in ‘tString(((const char*)"AAA")) << lowerUser’
22:24 <Lucifer> didn't we just talk about this line?
22:24 <PinkTomato> Yesterday!
22:24 <PinkTomato> That's my error
22:24 <PinkTomato> the line luke-jr thought I was lieing about
22:24 <Lucifer> how did it get into the trunk?
22:24 <luke-jr> Lucifer: it isn't in Svn trunk
22:25 <Lucifer> great, luke-jr fixed it in the library of congress
22:25 <BabyBug> you really should stop using 2......
22:25 <Lucifer> WE'RE not using two, luke-jr is
22:25 <BabyBug> luke-jr, stop using 2
22:25 <luke-jr> no I'm not
22:25 <luke-jr> I'm only using Subversion
22:25 <BabyBug> luke-jr, stop using svn
22:25 <luke-jr> BabyBug: svn is the primary
22:26 <luke-jr> and Lucifer is too lazy to add me to the bzr list
22:26 <luke-jr> :þ
22:26 <Lucifer> er, no
22:26 <BabyBug> Ok let's rephrase. The project as a WHOLE should stop using 2
22:26 <Lucifer> consider this little episode one of the reasons I won't add you to the bzr list
22:26 <Lucifer> the Right Thing for you to do would have been to post a patch, preferably on lp bugs
22:26 <BabyBug> add me to the bzr list \o/
22:26 <Lucifer> instead you chose the ass-wrong choice
22:26 <luke-jr> post a patch for what?
22:26 <smoothice> dlh: any luck?
22:26 <Lucifer> which was to commit to svn knowing damn well we don't commit to it anymore
22:26 <dlh> testing a fix right now
22:26 <luke-jr> I haven't touched that code.
22:27 <PinkTomato> anyway, it still exists in svn
22:27 <luke-jr> Lucifer: nobody ever told me svn commits aren't supported/allowed
22:27 <smoothice> dlh: ok cool
22:27 <PinkTomato> and bzr, tried both
22:27 <luke-jr> last I checked, the bot synced in both directions
22:27 <luke-jr> either way, I didn't touch that code
22:27 <luke-jr> and trunk still has a different line
22:27 <luke-jr> lowerUser = tString( "AAA" ) << lowerUser;
22:28 <smoothice> dlh: once you commit your changes to the trunk I can merge from trunk in my branch
22:29 <Lucifer> I don't even know what that thing's doing right there, heh
22:29 <Lucifer> maybe this is a compiler thing, where it used to work but doesn't anymore
22:30 <Lucifer> how did you fix it?
22:30 <luke-jr> if you're asking me, I didn't fix anything, it just never was a problem
22:30 <Lucifer> ok, what did you commit yesterday then, when PinkTomato (hi there!) raised this one?
22:31 <dlh> smoothice: i pushed a fix to lp.
22:31 <smoothice> dlh: ok
22:31 <smoothice> dlh: thanks
22:31 <luke-jr> Lucifer: my last commit to trunk was 2008-12-18, removing the Bitstream font
22:31 <Lucifer> er, I don't think we're having the same conversation with each other, heh
22:31 <luke-jr> my involvement with PinkTomato yesterday was simply "works for me" and "that looks really weird, and isn't in svn trunk"
22:32 <Lucifer> ah, I thought you'd committed a fix yesterday
22:32 <Lucifer> that's what I thought when I saw the conversation yesterday, for some reason
22:32 <luke-jr> nope, like I said, I haven't touched any of that code
22:32 <Lucifer> gcc --version ?
22:32 <luke-jr> gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20070214 ( (gdc 0.24, using dmd 1.020)) (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.1)
22:32 <Lucifer> then it's probably a gcc problem
22:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer: the thign that strikes me as weird is the variation between svn and bzr trunk
22:32 <smoothice> dlh: What's the difference between bzr co and bzr branch?
22:32 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: gcc --version ?
22:33 <smoothice> dlh: I've always used branch
22:33 <Lucifer> bzr co works like svn co, essentially
22:33 <Lucifer> commits go straight to the repo
22:33 <smoothice> o
22:33 <smoothice> ok
22:33 <BabyBug> Lucifer, what's your gcc version?
22:33 <Lucifer> bzr branch copies the repository, and commits are done locally
22:33 <Lucifer> 4.2.4
22:33 <BabyBug> ahhh
22:33 <Lucifer> gcc (GCC) 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3)
22:34 <BabyBug> It used to compile for me though :s
22:35 <epsy> grm, a tree that's based off an old revision, but which has changed will be labelled as it just was that old revision
22:35 <PinkTomato> I'ld like to note, I got it compiling, it was my configure line
22:36 <BabyBug> O.o
22:36 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: gcc (GCC) 4.2.4 (Ubuntu 4.2.4-1ubuntu3)
22:36 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: what was wrong with your configure line?
22:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8727 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tConfiguration.h): Daniel Lee Harple: Initialize shouldChangeFunc_ instance variable. This change was lost when z-man merged 0.2.8.
22:37 <PinkTomato> I think it was: ./configure --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
22:37 <Lucifer> that looks like somebody's fix
22:37 <Lucifer> that was the config line that worked, or the one that didn't work?
22:37 <PinkTomato> didn't work
22:37 <Lucifer> this line is in a krawall block
22:37 <PinkTomato> I went to bare configure, so I didn't isolate it
22:37 <Lucifer> does anybody know if z-man used the existing krawall block when he made armathentication?
22:37 <epsy> yes
22:38 <epsy> pretty much half the stuff in there has Krawall stamped on it
22:38 <Lucifer> yeah, he just built on that anyway
22:38 <luke-jr> that's how it works with old pre-0.2.8 clients
22:38 <epsy> even the constant that triggers it is named KRAWALL, or KRAWALL_SOMETHING
22:38 <smoothice> dlh: Did that seg. fault affect all platforms? (not just osx)
22:39 <luke-jr> epsy: define, not const
22:39 <epsy> "the define" ?
22:40 <epsy> that sounds like the line which produced .. whatever it produces
22:40 <Lucifer> it looks like it just prepends AAA to a player name
22:40 <Lucifer> er, or did you mean the line dlh just added?
22:40 <epsy> I remember prepending AAA to something
22:40 <epsy> but that was far from players
22:40 <dlh> smoothice: probably. the behavior for the problem is undefined.
22:40 <smoothice> dlh: ok
22:41 <luke-jr> tString(((const char*)"AAA")) << lowerUser’
22:41 <luke-jr> so why is that cast?
22:41 <smoothice> dlh: successful compile and run ... thanks again
22:41 <epsy> lol!
22:41 <luke-jr> "AAA" is already a const char*, no?
22:41 <epsy> it is
22:41 <Lucifer> it's not in the code, that's just how the compiler sees it
22:41 <dlh> smoothice: np.
22:41 <luke-jr> OH
22:44 <BabyBug> Lucifer
22:44 <BabyBug> Are you using ld gold?
22:44 <PinkTomato> why would you want to append AAA anyway?
22:44 <BabyBug> gold linker
22:44 <BabyBug> whatever you want to call it?
22:44 <PinkTomato> sound's very hacky
22:45 <epsy> PinkTomato, to sort it first
22:45 <Lucifer> it's building a list of armathentication authorities
22:45 <PinkTomato> oh right
22:45 <epsy> that's how it's done with .. something
22:45 <epsy> aaah THAT
22:45 <epsy> then I did that 2 times :)
22:46 <epsy> Lucifer, of admins, actually
22:46 <epsy> Lucifer, it's just that it puts authorities first, because it makes more sense
22:46 <PinkTomato> won't it get confused when something/someone is called AAAMan?
22:47 <epsy> read the line again :)
22:47 <Lucifer> that's just the key
22:47 <epsy> the sort keys are all lowercase
22:47 <Lucifer> not these, these have AAA in the beginning of them
22:47 <epsy> the sort keys of individual users are all lowercase
22:47 <Lucifer> well, I got it to compile, but the line I put in there isn't pretty
22:48 <Lucifer> lowerUser = tColoredString((tString&)"AAA" + lowerUser);
22:49 <Lucifer> I probably don't want to push that to the trunk
22:49 <Lucifer> should wait till I'm not sick and sleepy and look at the broken line again ;)
22:50 <Lucifer> note to self: make sure the trunk builds before you try to build an autopackage out of it
22:52 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you're in america right?
22:52 <luke-jr> he's one of them crazy Texans
22:53 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
22:53 <BabyBug> that's why he gets tired at really weird times?
22:53 <luke-jr> lol
22:53 <epsy> haha
22:54 <luke-jr> TWG code is about to be on LP
22:54 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: why did you do it as /msg?
22:54 <PinkTomato> was it a stylistic choice?
22:55 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ?
22:55 <PinkTomato> Isn't there a way to add a /twg to arma through config options to be parsed by a script?
22:56 <luke-jr> yeah, but
22:56 <teabot> armacommits: [smoothice] r728 merge with trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r745 Initialize shouldChangeFunc_ instance variable. This change ...
22:56 <luke-jr> the game is connecting as spectator
22:56 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@ip-62-235-219-151.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit []
22:56 <epsy> The game entered the game.
22:56 <luke-jr> ☺
22:56 <BabyBug> it's the matrix all over again!
22:56 <PinkTomato> :) lol
22:56 <luke-jr> lp:~luke-jr/+junk/yandere-twg
22:56 <PinkTomato> so you made it capable of being able to enter any arma?
22:57 <luke-jr> in theory
22:57 <luke-jr> but it needs anti-spam-protection access level
22:57 <luke-jr> and currently a high SPAM_MAXLEN
22:57 <luke-jr> (even though it bypasses it, the code isn't aware of that)
22:58 <PinkTomato> ah so thats why you added the access_level_spam
22:58 <luke-jr> note that lp branch is incomplete by itself
22:58 <luke-jr> anyone know how bzr externals work?
22:58 <luke-jr> ☺
22:59 -!- SageLord [i=459ac419@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-44086fbb5e5959af] has joined #armagetron
23:01 <epsy> bzr externals?
23:01 <teabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/fortress-vs-sumo/>
23:01 <luke-jr> apparently called nested trees
23:01 <luke-jr> the problem is the full TWG is 3 pieces
23:01 <luke-jr> 1. the IRC Yandere game, designed for Pharo
23:01 <luke-jr> 2. wrtl's PHP arma client
23:01 <luke-jr> 3. glue code to tie them together
23:03 <epsy> Ah right
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23:03 <BabyBug> php arma client?
23:03 <luke-jr> any reason bzr branch shouldn't be used as a flat-out import method?
23:03 <epsy> use make to retrieve wrtl's php client
23:03 <luke-jr> eg, branch to LP then delete the original?
23:04 <luke-jr> BabyBug: yes
23:04 <luke-jr> epsy: there is no makefile
23:04 <PinkTomato> I think I saw that in the SVN?
23:04 <epsy> make one :)
23:04 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: yep
23:04 <Lucifer> grrrr
23:04 * Lucifer broke the trunk himself, heh
23:04 <luke-jr> XD
23:05 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I'm in America, but seem to mostly keep a european schedule
23:05 <Lucifer> maybe I should move to europe
23:05 <BabyBug> No don't move to europe
23:06 <BabyBug> or if you do move to east europe
23:06 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: then the days would be funny for you
23:06 <PinkTomato> and you might fal back into the same habit, and end up in aussie time
23:07 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I hear the hottest european babes are in eastern europe
23:07 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you heard wrong!!
23:07 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: then I should skip to the chase and go straight to oz
23:07 <BabyBug> very very wrong
23:08 <BabyBug> the hottest european babes are in Scotland \o/
23:08 <Lucifer> dlh: it seems to have affected other platforms as well
23:08 * Lucifer pulls, heh
23:12 <Lucifer> BabyBug: well, the hottest american babes tend to have eastern european ancestry, so it's a logical conclusion
23:12 <BabyBug> the hottest american babes are fugly though
23:13 <SageLord> pfft whatever
23:13 <z-man> dlh: oops, I was specifically looking at that initialization code.
23:13 * Lucifer has a crush on a girl from his chem 1 class that has polish ancestry
23:13 <z-man> Did you also make sure the other pointer function always gets initialized?
23:15 <Lucifer> I guess it all boils down to who you think is hotter
23:15 <Lucifer> Nena
23:15 <Lucifer> or
23:15 <Lucifer> Angela Merkyl
23:15 <BabyBug> Who or Who?
23:15 <z-man> ugh
23:15 <z-man> Merkel.
23:15 <akira_arma> NWO forward!
23:16 <Lucifer> heh, sorry
23:16 <Lucifer> wait, you think Merkel's hotter than Nena?
23:16 <akira_arma> sakrozy,merkel,putin,obama they will do it!
23:16 * z-man vanishes in a puff of smoke
23:16 <akira_arma> they will help us all !
23:16 <akira_arma> they will get rid of hunger!
23:16 <akira_arma> of pverty!
23:16 <akira_arma> of
23:17 <Lucifer> puberty?
23:17 <akira_arma> of
23:17 <akira_arma> errr
23:17 <z-man> Internet Trolls?
23:17 <epsy> who's gonna fix our autotools now?
23:17 <Lucifer> conspiracy theorists?
23:17 <akira_arma> tzoo abd thats a fact lucifer
23:17 <Lucifer> hey, if the NWO wants to round up all the nutjobs, I'll go along with that
23:17 <BabyBug> epsy, Lucifer will
23:17 <akira_arma> too bad you are willingly doing their job
23:17 <akira_arma> "their"
23:18 <Lucifer> I'm not rounding up any nutjobs
23:18 <Lucifer> best case, I'm just labeling them for easy targetting by the secret police
23:18 <epsy> @list filter
23:18 <teabot> epsy: aol, binary, colorize, gnu, hebrew, hexlify, jeffk, leet, lithp, morse, outfilter, rainbow, reverse, rot13, scramble, shrink, spellit, squish, stripcolor, supa1337, undup, unhexlify, and unmorse
23:18 * epsy wants @windows
23:19 <PinkTomato> @rot1 test
23:19 <teabot> PinkTomato: uftu
23:19 <akira_arma> what has a being doubtful and aware of schemes of the ruling class to do with being a nutjob?
23:19 <akira_arma> i mean its pretty logical that the ruling class wants to preserve its power
23:19 <Lucifer> semi-literate rants about the new world order makes you a nutjob ;)
23:19 <Lucifer> it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, it's all about how you communicate it
23:20 <akira_arma> i am just exxagerating cause a)
23:20 <akira_arma> i have to make fun of it cause its so sad
23:20 <akira_arma> b) i cant pinpoint exact sentences cause i would write a goddamn essay then
23:20 <akira_arma> which isnt exactly feasible in irc
23:21 <Lucifer> I do it all the time!
23:21 * Lucifer notes that if you want to force all of arma to rebuild, modify tConfiguration.h
23:21 <dlh> z-man: looks like cb is always initialized too
23:22 <epsy> @spellit is funny :P
23:22 <Lucifer> @spellit
23:22 <teabot> Lucifer: (spellit <text>) -- Returns <text>, phonetically spelled out.
23:22 <Lucifer> @spellit nutjob
23:22 <teabot> Lucifer: en you tee jay oh bee
23:23 <Lucifer> ok, here we go again for the autopackage
23:23 * Lucifer crosses his fingers
23:23 <BabyBug> Lucifer, it still fails to compile!
23:23 * PinkTomato crosses theirs too for extra hope
23:23 <BabyBug> i bet you it fails!
23:23 <BabyBug> And i'm going to say because of something to do with ruby
23:23 * PinkTomato even harder to avoid the aura of lack of faith from BabyBug
23:23 <z-man> dlh: right, the base constructor takes care of that.
23:24 <Lucifer> z-man and dlh, any objections to more or less completely disabling ruby for 0.3.1?
23:24 <z-man> nope.
23:25 * Lucifer wants to revisit build systems
23:25 * Lucifer is having a hard time believing any project of significant size could work with autotools without going slowly crazy
23:26 <z-man> Well, it's great for small and medium sized projects.
23:26 <z-man> Also, it's not size, it's complexity :)
23:26 <Lucifer> heh
23:26 <z-man> It handles tons of source just fine, but the non-source stuff gets problematic.
23:26 <z-man> That and external dependencies.
23:26 <Lucifer> it's going to take me a little bit to get back up to speed with the build system, if I ever was up to speed with it, at least
23:27 <Lucifer> yeah, that configure script is just damned useful
23:27 <Lucifer> I almost want to just keep that and make a bunch of SCons.in files ;)
23:27 <Corn> Im downloading a compiler is there a specific one that i should download? or does it not matter.
23:27 * z-man is building the dedicated servers for the IV games now exclusively with auto*
23:27 <epsy> Corn, GCC ?
23:28 <z-man> Lucifer: that's an idea there.
23:28 <Corn> gnu compiler collection?
23:28 <z-man> Corn: that's the one.
23:28 <Lucifer> there are no other compilers, there is only gcc
23:28 <Corn> j
23:28 <Corn> k*
23:29 <epsy> doesn't cmake handle dependency checking?
23:29 <z-man> wasn't cmake an abomination?
23:29 <Lucifer> at this point I doubt there's anything that's as good as autoconf for that
23:29 <epsy> Lucifer, "others are [..]" ?
23:29 <Lucifer> much as I dislike working on configure.ac
23:29 <Corn> should i download 4.3.2
23:29 <epsy> well, KDE is an abomination as well, isn't it ? :)
23:29 <PinkTomato> ./configure dosen't check for bison
23:29 <Lucifer> scons has something like it, but you have to write all your own tests pretty much ;)
23:29 <z-man> we could clean it up at some point.
23:29 <epsy> Corn, sounds right
23:30 <z-man> Part of it checks for completely obsolete stuff
23:30 <Corn> ok
23:30 <Lucifer> heh, true, most of our configure.ac mess is our own fault
23:30 <z-man> "let's see if we're using SDL_Image 1.0"
23:30 <luke-jr> does wrtl's PHP client exist in the bzr world?
23:30 <Lucifer> yeah, you know, maybe we should do a big build system cleanup before talking about other build systems anyway
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23:31 <epsy> luke-jr, not unless you use bzr-svn, no
23:31 -!- The_Master [n=master@unaffiliated/ttech/bot/themaster] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
23:31 <Lucifer> it would be nice, imo, to go with more recursion in teh build
23:31 <Lucifer> you know, Makefile.am for each subdirectory
23:31 <z-man> Err, no.
23:31 <Lucifer> heh
23:31 <Lucifer> "But it's already slow enough!"
23:32 <z-man> It's slow because each .cpp includes tons of headers.
23:32 <Lucifer> how about Makefile.inc in each subdirectory, and then Makefile.am just includes them? (the one in src)
23:32 <z-man> The build system is pretty much irrelevant right now. We could use one written in bash and it wouldn't slow us down.
23:32 <z-man> Yeah, the include path would work.
23:33 <epsy> talking about includes we should really start trimming them into '#include "tools.h"' or something..
23:33 <z-man> It's a bit unituitive, though, because the makefiles need to know from where they're included to get their paths right.
23:33 * Lucifer isn't going to do any of that right now, just try to get an autopackage built
23:33 <Lucifer> hmmm, that's true....
23:33 <BabyBug> Lucifer, does that mean it failed? x)
23:33 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, still building
23:33 <z-man> epsy: and make them include even more headers?
23:33 <BabyBug> hrmph
23:33 <epsy> basically, yes
23:34 <Lucifer> what about precompiled headers?
23:34 <luke-jr> can I delete a +junk branch?
23:34 <epsy> luke-jr, the red button next to the title at launchpad
23:34 <z-man> do precompiled headers work proplerly now?
23:34 * Lucifer wonders what it takes to use precompiled headers
23:34 <epsy> luke-jr, actually, you can delete any branch
23:34 <Lucifer> beats me
23:34 <Lucifer> wait, you mean they didn't work properly after apple implemented it?
23:35 <luke-jr> gcc some.h
23:35 <Lucifer> but...apple has the world's most elite coders!
23:35 <z-man> Last time I checked was with a late 4.0 beta.
23:35 <luke-jr> epsy: I don't see it
23:35 <z-man> so really a while ago.
23:35 <Lucifer> google must know the answer
23:35 <luke-jr> oh
23:35 <luke-jr> foudn it
23:35 <luke-jr> XD
23:35 <epsy> hehe yeah it's small
23:36 <z-man> So yeah, if precompiled headers work, it wouln't hurt to use them for our big headers that are included from anywhere anyway.
23:36 <z-man> Not for every header.
23:36 <z-man> That just makes every build into a full rebuild, which doesn't really serve the purpose of speeding stuff up :)
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23:39 <epsy> darn, um..
23:39 <Lucifer> according to the docs, gcc supports them just fine, but automake doesn't
23:41 <Lucifer> we could pull it off, I'll bet
23:41 <Lucifer> make a rule to build the precompiled headers, then list them in a particular sources variable
23:41 <z-man> Ooh, excelent. Five new Michael Caine movies on the VDR waiting at home.
23:42 <z-man> I wonder whether I should download them to here.
23:43 <z-man> Yeah, it should be possible to hack something together for the headers.
23:44 <z-man> Of course, some of those movies only have him in a supporting role, but I want to see them anyway and use Caine as a hook for my wife :)
23:45 <z-man> Like Batman Begins, for example.
23:45 <Lucifer> didn't he play the dad in Elf?
23:45 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: feel free to move the php client to bzr
23:45 <wrtlprnft> #hostmask add epsy epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
23:45 <z-man> Elf?
23:45 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
23:46 <wrtlprnft> #hostmask add epsy epsy!n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy
23:46 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
23:46 <wrtlprnft> epsy: done.
23:46 <Lucifer> nvm, that's james caan
23:49 <epsy> wrtlprnft, thanks :)
23:49 * BabyBug throws a party for epsy
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23:49 <Corn> Michael Caine was in bewitched wasnt he?
23:49 <Lucifer> well, the autopackage is proceeding nicely
23:49 <Lucifer> BabyBug: :P
23:49 <BabyBug> Lucifer, psssssssh
23:50 <BabyBug> It'll fair
23:50 <BabyBug> fail*
23:50 <BabyBug> fail ><
23:50 <PinkTomato> autopackage sounds very slow...
23:50 * BabyBug votes for .debs!
23:51 <Lucifer> er, is the autopackage not named for the server?
23:52 <z-man> Corn: yes, I think, as a sort of teacher/old master guy. He often is :)
23:52 <Lucifer> oh, it built the client first
23:52 <PinkTomato> so the client built :D?
23:52 <PinkTomato> does that mean I win?
23:52 <epsy> right, I still have --versioninfo left to do
23:53 <Lucifer> http://www.davefancella.com/armagetronad-0.3_alpha20090103.i486-generic-linux-gnu.package
23:53 <Lucifer> well, the server is building right now
23:53 <Lucifer> also, no guarantees the client will actually run :)
23:53 <PinkTomato> that should succeed right?
23:53 <Lucifer> theoretically
23:53 <Lucifer> be prepared to back it out if it doesn't work, heh
23:53 <BabyBug> do you need to remove the older version first?
23:54 <PinkTomato> how do I install .package? and how do I unistall old source compiled?
23:54 <Lucifer> chmod uga+x *.package
23:54 <Lucifer> ./armagetronadyadayada.package -t
23:54 <Lucifer> then follow the instructions
23:54 <PinkTomato> ah that's easy
23:55 <Lucifer> install it to your home directory, for sure
23:55 <Lucifer> if it doesn't clean up for some reason, you'll do less damage that way :)
23:55 <PinkTomato> it'll let me do a prefix?
23:55 <PinkTomato> oh
23:55 <PinkTomato> I think I done this before
23:55 <Lucifer> BabyBug: afaik, no
23:55 <Lucifer> I don't think so, but it may
23:55 <BabyBug> kk
23:56 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you need faster internetz
23:57 <Lucifer> sorry
23:57 <Lucifer> maybe I should pause my torrents
23:57 <BabyBug> >< lol
23:57 <PinkTomato> how fast BabyBug? surely nearly done?
23:57 <BabyBug> 50 seconds left
23:58 <PinkTomato> It would take longer than that to mirror it
23:58 <PinkTomato> um, it didn't ask where I wanted to put it
23:58 <PinkTomato> It was nice though
23:59 <PinkTomato> bad news lucifer
23:59 <Lucifer> doesn't work?
23:59 <epsy> crap crap crapp...
23:59 <Corn> can winrar decompress tar files?
23:59 <epsy> Maybe?
23:59 <PinkTomato> ... hmm... it was only a 404 on resource
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00:00 <PinkTomato> Corn: probably someone here hates 7-zip, but that work's me
00:00 <Corn> come again? that work's me?
00:00 <PinkTomato> 7-Zip works with tat
00:00 <PinkTomato> tar*
00:00 <Corn> k
00:00 <BabyBug> Lucifer, works fine here \o/ apart from some resource thingy that appeared
00:00 <Lucifer> why are you trying to decompress a tar file in windows, anyway?
00:01 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: same here
00:01 <BabyBug> (even with my ftgl version)
00:01 <Lucifer> well cool, wow, that's great
00:01 * Lucifer wasn't expecting it to work
00:01 <PinkTomato> well, the only thing is the wierd 404 message
00:01 <PinkTomato> on local game
00:02 <PinkTomato> but that might be due to non-superuser install
00:02 <Lucifer> I think that's been there for a little while, hasn't it?
00:02 <Corn> fuxed up your client with a patch
00:02 <Corn> ?
00:02 <Lucifer> there were some resources that couldn't be put in the source tarball, too, for some crazy reason
00:02 <Lucifer> it might be one of those
00:03 * Lucifer wonders if he can build rpms in kubuntu
00:03 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i don't have any gfx...ermm..by that i mean, no fps, no brake/rubber meters etc =(
00:03 <Lucifer> ahhh, cockpit problem
00:03 <Lucifer> probably related to that 404 you got
00:03 <PinkTomato> same here
00:04 <PinkTomato> there's more than one 404
00:04 <PinkTomato> related to resource.mod
00:04 <Lucifer> I'll look at it in a bit, I didn't personally test the package because my computer started building the server package right away
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00:04 <Lucifer> but the important part of it is that it installed and ran :)
00:05 <Lucifer> now, does it uninstall? (It should, autopackage is good about that)
00:06 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yes except it outputs this
00:06 <BabyBug> rmdir: failed to remove `/var/games/armagetronad': No such file or directory
00:06 <Lucifer> heh
00:06 <BabyBug> but it actually uninstalls fine :P
00:06 <Lucifer> that's a problem with configure options
00:06 <PinkTomato> what's the command?
00:06 <BabyBug> sudo package uninstall armagetronad
00:07 <Lucifer> sudo isn't necessary if you didn't install it system-wide
00:07 <PinkTomato> The program 'package' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
00:07 <PinkTomato> sudo apt-get install mailagent
00:07 <PinkTomato> ubuntu obviously makes a lot of sense..
00:07 <Lucifer> try it without sudo
00:07 <PinkTomato> that was without sudo ;)
00:07 <BabyBug> Lucifer, it asks for the root password when you try to install it normally...
00:07 <Lucifer> you installed it to your home directory, so the support code probably got put there too
00:07 <Lucifer> oh, heh
00:07 <BabyBug> The only option you get is to install it system wide
00:07 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes, but there's a button to say "No password"
00:07 <BabyBug> Oh
00:07 <BabyBug> woops
00:07 <BabyBug> my bad
00:08 <Lucifer> and if you click that, it installs to your home directory ;)
00:08 <luke-jr> anyone know how to mirror wrtl's PHP client into bzr world?
00:08 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
00:08 <PinkTomato> http://dessert.ath.cx/arma1.png && http://dessert.ath.cx/arma2.png
00:08 <z-man> Lucifer: I tested the passwordless installation, works fine.
00:08 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: check your application menu for add/remove programs entry
00:09 <z-man> I also get a 404, it tries to download the cockpit dtd.
00:09 <Lucifer> that explains why the cockpit doesn't work ;)
00:09 <BabyBug> fix plox
00:09 <BabyBug> =x
00:09 <BabyBug> hehe
00:10 <Lucifer> heh, I'll get it, mannnnnnnnnn
00:10 <luke-jr> z-man: would you mind adding wrtl's PHP client to the bzr mirroring? ;)
00:10 <z-man> The included dtd is named cockpit-.dtd
00:10 <BabyBug> sure you will, gurrrrrrrrrrrl
00:10 <Lucifer> the task right now is to have someone besides z-man able to build a release
00:10 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: did not work
00:10 <Lucifer> not necessarily to build the release ;)
00:10 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: I'm sorry I threw an autopackage at you when I don't really know much about autopackage as a user ;)
00:11 <PinkTomato> lol :D
00:11 <Lucifer> (and as a developer, I only know marginally more)
00:11 <z-man> Oh wait, it's resource.dtd that's missing
00:11 <PinkTomato> i'll figure it out, I truly doubt its mailagent i need though
00:11 * luke-jr notes that release DTDs need versions.
00:11 <Lucifer> no, package should isntall with the autopackage support code
00:11 <z-man> luke-jr: bingo.
00:11 <luke-jr> z-man: I think you forgot to unignore me ;(
00:11 <luke-jr> oh
00:11 <z-man> the included resource.dtd is versioned.
00:11 <luke-jr> z-man: about mirroring wrtl's PHP client? :/
00:12 <z-man> depends on its path.
00:12 <z-man> where is it?
00:12 <PinkTomato> its in private
00:12 <luke-jr> https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/private/wrtlprnft
00:12 <luke-jr> unfortuantely, it lacks a subdir of its own :/
00:12 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft hasn't made his own bzr branch for his private stuff yet?
00:12 <luke-jr> maybe he wouldn't mind moving it a little
00:12 <Lucifer> er, oops, neither have I
00:13 <Lucifer> well, I have a dedicated server autopackage too
00:13 <z-man> I'll definitely not create a branch for his whole private stuff
00:13 <z-man> that will get messy later.
00:13 <luke-jr> all 380 KB of his private stuff ;)
00:14 <Lucifer> hey, if somebody can figure out how to replace a mouse button switch with a switch controlled by a bicycle speed sensor,
00:14 <z-man> it's not that :) it's a question of organization.
00:14 <Lucifer> then I think my maze generator will become useful again :)
00:14 <luke-jr> sigh
00:14 <luke-jr> I guess for now I just requrie bzr-svn on ppl's machines
00:14 <z-man> why that?
00:14 <Lucifer> go bug wrtlprnft to move his private stuff to bzr, eh? ;)
00:15 <luke-jr> z-man: so I can nest a svn tree
00:15 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ping
00:15 <BabyBug> Everyone needs bugging to do things here...You lot need an ethos of "Just do it!"
00:15 <luke-jr> bzr co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/private/wrtlprnft arma-php-client
00:16 <luke-jr> … is it seriously copying the entire fscking svn repo just for that?
00:16 <luke-jr> :/
00:16 <z-man> no, it's analysing it.
00:16 <Lucifer> BabyBug: you'll have to bug guru3 to get us to establish an ethos
00:16 <BabyBug> ...
00:16 <BabyBug> guru3, epic ping!
00:16 <luke-jr> ROFL
00:17 <z-man> My ethos is I'LL DO IT WHEN I HAVE THE FREAKING TIME, K?
00:17 <BabyBug> #topic
00:17 <guru3> eh?
00:17 <BabyBug> guru3, establish an ethos!
00:18 <guru3> eh?
00:18 <BabyBug> ><
00:18 <Lucifer> grrr, why is it taking so long to push?
00:18 <PinkTomato> what's wrong with eh? as an ethos?
00:18 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I'm sitting on it.
00:18 <guru3> i'm more worried about hosting coming up for expiration
00:18 <Lucifer> luke-jr: well quit sitting on it!
00:18 <luke-jr> XD
00:18 <Lucifer> that reminds me, my domain's about to expire
00:19 <BabyBug> guru3, renew? :P
00:19 <PinkTomato> coming up for expiration?
00:19 <guru3> while Lucifer and z-man are here
00:19 <guru3> are you guys opposed to doing a fund raiser drive type thing for the hosting costs?
00:19 * Lucifer is only partially here, the rest of him has fallen asleep
00:19 <luke-jr> guru3: might consider moving too? nearlyfreespeech is pretty cheap
00:19 <Lucifer> no, of course not, go to it ;)
00:19 <luke-jr> or maybe I could throw it on one of my servers if it doesn't use too much bw
00:19 <guru3> well we've got about 3 months left on the plan
00:20 <guru3> so i'm only just considering it so far
00:20 <z-man> guru3: no objections here.
00:20 <PinkTomato> what are hosting costs like for a website big as arma?
00:20 <epsy> luke-jr, use a bzr repository if you do that with more than one branch
00:20 <Lucifer> $40,000/year
00:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, big?
00:20 <Lucifer> that's why we ahven't gotten anything done
00:20 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, it's sooooooooooooo not big =P
00:20 <luke-jr> epsy: ?
00:21 <Lucifer> we made a bunch of small websites so we'd look bigger than we are
00:21 <epsy> luke-jr, fetching branches from svn
00:21 <BabyBug> and you still look small
00:21 <guru3> PinkTomato: there' not too bad
00:21 <guru3> because the cost is split between armagetron and another site of mine
00:21 <Lucifer> BabyBug: look, a shiny thing!
00:21 * Lucifer points
00:21 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I guess so :D, but must get a lot of traffic, the master stuff must take a lot of cost too
00:21 <epsy> well, good night
00:21 <Lucifer> masters are mostly hosted on home machines, eh?
00:21 <PinkTomato> guru3: ah ok then :)
00:22 <PinkTomato> are they really?
00:22 <BabyBug> Lucifer, You should really wipe that sweat off your head instead of pointing at it!
00:22 <guru3> armagetron's share is only like... 70 pounds over 2 years
00:22 * epsy got his arma to segfault while reading TEAM_BLUE_3 15
00:22 <Lucifer> wow, that's like 1/4 of my ex's weight
00:22 * Lucifer is exaggerating
00:22 <BabyBug> it's an 1/8th of it?1?
00:22 <epsy> nighty
00:22 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"]
00:23 <guru3> anywho
00:23 <guru3> just thought i'd check
00:23 <BabyBug> guru3, what's the second site?
00:23 <Lucifer> girlsandguitars.com
00:23 <guru3> lol
00:23 <guru3> no
00:23 <guru3> animeseen.net
00:24 <BabyBug> oh ffs...what is it with the internet and anime ><
00:24 <BabyBug> 99.9% of people on the internet watch anime ><
00:24 <PinkTomato> its not the whole internet
00:24 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I don't know, it's sickening, isn't it?
00:24 <guru3> :<
00:24 <BabyBug> Lucifer, completely!
00:25 <Lucifer> although, some of those anime chicks are pretty hot
00:25 * BabyBug face palms
00:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8728 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): dave@davefancella.com: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out of it.
00:26 <PinkTomato> there's too much anime to choose the good stuff
00:26 <Lucifer> ok, time to start winding down and make my way to bed, I think
00:27 <z-man> luke-jr: can't mirror wrtl's private stuff. Sorry. bzr-svn is kind of stubborn that way.
00:27 * Lucifer is running 18 hours so far
00:27 <z-man> It would need to get moved to tools/php-client/trunk
00:27 <PinkTomato> don't you want to resync lucifer?
00:28 <Lucifer> that's what I'm doing
00:28 <Corn> damn 1 and a half hours to download 54 mb... stupid connection
00:28 <Lucifer> I woke up at 11:30pm
00:28 <PinkTomato> ah
00:28 <PinkTomato> taking a long long sleep then
00:28 <Corn> You know i was thinking about that today BabyBug, i came to the conclusion that they're asian wannabes
00:29 <BabyBug> what? O.o
00:29 <Lucifer> but asians don't like anime, it's produced for export to the US and UK
00:29 <Corn> Lucifer are you nocturnal or something dont you live in america?
00:29 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no not the UK
00:29 <Corn> hense its not late at all
00:29 * Lucifer is tired of explaining to people why he's on such an odd sleep schedule
00:30 <PinkTomato> What Lucifer said is pretty much true + france
00:30 <Lucifer> BabyBug: guru3 is in the UK.... they must export it there for him
00:30 <BabyBug> stress!
00:30 <BabyBug> Lucifer, england!
00:30 <BabyBug> not UK
00:30 <BabyBug> the UK is fake
00:30 <Lucifer> the UK is real
00:30 <Corn> :/
00:30 <BabyBug> fake
00:30 <Lucifer> see, the English conquered the island and tried to take ireland too
00:30 <Lucifer> but they were stopped short
00:31 <Lucifer> then they unilaterally created the UK
00:31 <Lucifer> and Sean Connery has been pissed about it ever since (he was there when they did it)
00:31 <Corn> your internal clock is skrewed
00:31 <BabyBug> one of these days i'm gonna get a saw and saw wales off England \o/
00:31 <Lucifer> Corn: no, it's the earth's rotation that's screwed
00:31 <Lucifer> BabyBug: and fall into economic meltdown, no doubt
00:32 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no it's your perception of the earth's rotation that's screwed
00:32 <Lucifer> not that that's a serious threat when we're in a global recession, mind you
00:32 <luke-jr> z-man: think he'd mind if I moved it there?
00:32 <BabyBug> Lucifer, England depend on us too much!
00:32 <PinkTomato> Woah
00:32 <z-man> luke-jr: without asking? I'd mind.
00:32 <luke-jr> BabyBug: the Earth doesn't rotate
00:32 <guru3> i'm off to bed
00:32 <BabyBug> people are moving from England to Wales just to get free medication ><
00:32 <guru3> good night
00:32 <BabyBug> night xx
00:33 <PinkTomato> night :)
00:33 <Corn> which is suprisingly similar to drug distribution
00:33 <z-man> Keeping others from meddling is one of the reasons to put suff into ones private directory.
00:33 <Lucifer> BabyBug: that's called cultural assimilation
00:33 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I'm certainly not going to wales to save £7
00:33 <luke-jr> z-man: how about a copy?
00:33 <z-man> That should be fine.
00:33 <BabyBug> Lucifer, it's called nicking Wales' money! =P
00:33 <luke-jr> and let wrtl delete the old one if he wants
00:34 <PinkTomato> Lots of welsh laws depend on you being part of england
00:34 <PinkTomato> considering they apply to both
00:34 <PinkTomato> huge rewrite
00:34 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, they are the stupid laws
00:34 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: We don't steal wales money, we still have to pay for University there :)
00:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8729 /tools/php-client/ (. trunk/): Make a tools dir for wrtl's pho client
00:34 <Lucifer> pho client?
00:35 <PinkTomato> I think you get a discount to study in wales
00:35 <BabyBug> If you're welsh you do yup!
00:35 <BabyBug> see...Being Welsh is so much better than being English
00:35 <PinkTomato> or eu citizen excluding UK
00:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: typo
00:35 <Corn> i have a confession
00:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8730 /tools/php-client/trunk/armagetron-php-client.php: Copy wrtl's PHP client into its new home; wrtl can delete the private one later
00:36 <PinkTomato> see your laws prefer the EU rather than the english at times :)
00:36 <PinkTomato> Corn: what sort of confession?
00:36 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Yet still the english refuse to take the hint =P
00:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8731 /tools/php-client/ (branches/ tags/): Forgot to make tags/branches
00:36 <Corn> Babybug, the point isnt making money; its stealing money.
00:37 <PinkTomato> lol BabyBug. If you can get a good majority of welsh people to vote for independence and succeed, I'll support the viewpoint ;)
00:37 <BabyBug> no Corn, stealing money was something to back the arguement that the english suck
00:37 <BabyBug> the point is that the english suck :P
00:38 * PinkTomato did not choose to be english :P
00:38 <BabyBug> even english people admit it! =P
00:38 <Corn> Did you know theres a town in whales that refused to let outsiders into the town so they resulted to incest
00:38 <BabyBug> Corn, that's a lie
00:39 <PinkTomato> they must not have had roads
00:39 <PinkTomato> since roads are public property
00:39 <Corn> PinkTomato: A secretive one.
00:40 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, what do you think about this shitty database being set up aswell? :P
00:40 <PinkTomato> what database is this?
00:40 <PinkTomato> the ID cards?
00:40 <PinkTomato> or the NHS one?
00:40 <BabyBug> A database to store all out phone txts, emails, phone conversations
00:40 <BabyBug> etc etc
00:40 <BabyBug> our*
00:40 <PinkTomato> we are not the US
00:40 <Corn> chavs....
00:40 <PinkTomato> stop copying them
00:40 <Corn> thats all they are
00:40 <Corn> damn chavs
00:41 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2233212/uk-government-outsource
00:41 <Corn> and you know what they suck? the welsh
00:41 <PinkTomato> the thing is, BT track this anyway
00:41 <PinkTomato> and such like
00:41 <BabyBug> phone calls and txts?
00:41 <z-man> luke-jr: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-work
00:41 <PinkTomato> well yeah, how else do you get billed
00:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, They mean containing the details of them.......
00:42 <BabyBug> As in the content
00:42 <luke-jr> z-man: thanks
00:42 <PinkTomato> but how...
00:42 <PinkTomato> phone calls as well.. that's an immense amount of data
00:42 <BabyBug> they're planning to spend 12 billion quid
00:42 <z-man> np
00:43 <BabyBug> That's an awful lot of space
00:43 <BabyBug> lol
00:43 <PinkTomato> £12billion...
00:43 <BabyBug> yes...
00:43 <PinkTomato> The only way for it to be effective
00:43 <PinkTomato> is to check every message
00:43 <PinkTomato> even if they employed 1/100 of the country, still not enough people for the time
00:44 <Corn> What is a lie? that you have self respect? I knew it!
00:44 <BabyBug> whether it's effective or not their doing it :P
00:44 <Corn> But really... what?
00:44 <PinkTomato> in fact, I think cold calling people asking them "Are you a terrorist?" would be more effective.
00:44 <BabyBug> i'd do that for a job!
00:44 <BabyBug> The pay must be great
00:44 <Corn> not really
00:44 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
00:44 <Corn> not if you live in a communist country
00:44 <smoothice> #seen wrtlprnft
00:44 <@armabot> smoothice: wrtlprnft was last seen in #armagetron 58 minutes and 45 seconds ago: <wrtlprnft> epsy: done.
00:45 <PinkTomato> i think the true reason is for marketing
00:45 <PinkTomato> like how they sell the census
00:45 <BabyBug> Someone suggest a good new movie
00:46 <PinkTomato> what sort of movie?
00:46 <Corn> "BabyBug> Corn, that's a lie" What is?
00:47 <BabyBug> comedy? actions? detective kind of movies
00:47 <BabyBug> i dunno
00:47 <BabyBug> juts a good movie
00:47 <BabyBug> Corn, look at what you said exactly before it
00:48 <Corn> If you use secret code language the government wont understand what your talking about in the conversation. However neither will the person your talking to.
00:49 <PinkTomato> Corn: called arabic/french etc :P
00:49 <PinkTomato> or welsh :P
00:49 <Corn> lots of floppy disks huh
00:49 <PinkTomato> I'm sure they wouldn't hire welsh translators
00:49 <PinkTomato> too much effort
00:50 <Corn> Pink when they tap the phones they find keywords to look for.
00:50 <PinkTomato> how?
00:50 <PinkTomato> speech to text never works
00:51 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, they have things slightly more sophisticated than what we have access to =P
00:51 <Corn> Rolemodels
00:51 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: they said they were outsourcing
00:51 <PinkTomato> the government wouldn't trust a thirdparty company would they?
00:51 <PinkTomato> wait...
00:51 <PinkTomato> stupid question
00:51 <BabyBug> of course they would
00:51 <BabyBug> lol
00:52 <BabyBug> and tbh i'd rather a third party company handled it
00:52 <Corn> Exactly before what?
00:52 <BabyBug> our government is shit at keeping confidential information safe
00:52 <BabyBug> lol
00:52 <z-man> epsy, luke-jr: your concurrent edits of polish_transliterated.txt produced hefty unresolvable conflicts.
00:52 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: agreed
00:52 <z-man> Which do I keep?
00:52 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: same in the US
00:52 <PinkTomato> (23:38:22) Corn: Did you know theres a town in whales that refused to let outsiders into the town so they resulted to incest
00:53 <PinkTomato> that's your anwser
00:53 <luke-jr> z-man: polish_transliterated.txt of mine is just a direct import from the bug
00:53 <luke-jr> I wasn't aware epsy was touching it
00:53 <z-man> epsy touched it in bzr, you in svn
00:53 <z-man> now bazaarmagetron is stuck :)
00:53 <luke-jr> z-man: also, I don't see a purpose of the _transliterated variant
00:53 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: polish.txt does not work
00:53 <luke-jr> my polish.txt is minimally transliterated
00:54 <z-man> Well, isn't it supposed to work with incomplete fonts?
00:54 <Corn> Are we talking about england or wales
00:54 <luke-jr> z-man: ah, I did not check that
00:54 <PinkTomato> Corn: you said whales
00:54 <luke-jr> I only checked that polish.txt was Latin-1
00:54 <z-man> anyway, I'm ditching epsy's change.
00:54 <luke-jr> are we missing parts of Latin-1? O.o
00:54 <Corn> And its not like Welsh is a hard language to learn so Translators arent rare
00:54 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: polish.txt is windows-1250
00:54 <Corn> On the contrary
00:54 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: are you sure you're talking about the same polish.txt?
00:55 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: possibly not.
00:55 <BabyBug> lol
00:55 <Corn> Exactly
00:55 <Corn> 12 billion....
00:55 <PinkTomato> welsh sounds hard
00:55 <luke-jr> Corn: I'm sure a Welsh translation would be welcome
00:55 <PinkTomato> words like crwth
00:56 <BabyBug> lmao...there's so many conversations getting intertwined here
00:56 <PinkTomato> how is that even pronuncable
00:56 <BabyBug> haha PinkTomato
00:56 <Corn> third party companies are good at what they do or else they go out of business they have no tax shit to back them up
00:56 <Corn> Well its true
00:57 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, how do you think it's pronounced?
00:57 <PinkTomato> Qurf
00:57 <BabyBug> ><
00:58 <Corn> Well i misspelled
00:58 <BabyBug> crooth ... Like tooth (said the non posh way) except with cr at the beginning
00:58 <Corn> clearly if there was a town inside a whale it wouldnt make sense.
00:59 <PinkTomato> I get english prouncations wrong all the time anyway
00:59 <teabot> armacommits: [tools-php-client-trunk-work] r2 Copy wrtl's PHP client into its new home; wrtl can delete th... || [tools-php-client-trunk-work] r1 Make a tools dir for wrtl's pho client... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r746 Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an ...
00:59 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I just checked my svn copy, only works with windows-1250 or latin-2
00:59 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch =D
00:59 <Corn> We're talking about government conspiracy phone tapping not armagetron language conversion as far as i know i dont know any welsh speakers
00:59 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: crap, I guessed Latin-1 wrong XD
01:00 <PinkTomato> Latin-1 doesn't have that \L
01:00 <Corn> i like the sound of 'pronuncable'
01:00 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I don't even know where to begin with that :D
01:01 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, try the beginning xD
01:01 <PinkTomato> lawnfairpowellgeygillygoggery...
01:01 <BabyBug> ok you fail
01:01 <PinkTomato> I wasn't expected success :)
01:02 <Corn> cymru
01:02 <BabyBug> Cymru*
01:02 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: shouldn't polish.txt be omitted until a UTF-8/Latin-2 build?
01:03 <PinkTomato> there's no point having the squares and subscript 2 and 3's
01:03 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: it should be made into Latin-1
01:03 <Corn> pronunciation.
01:03 <Corn> not pronuncication
01:03 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: has been, its the transliterated version.
01:03 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: the transliterated file had issues
01:04 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: what do you mean?
01:04 <luke-jr> such as lowercase upper chars, and being ASCII and not Latin-1
01:04 <PinkTomato> OK, convert the file into Latin-1?
01:04 <Corn> Is this welsh, Babybug?
01:05 <Corn> i especially like the ending, 'ogogogoch'
01:05 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: starting w/ the UTF-8 yes
01:06 <BabyBug> Corn, is what welsh?
01:07 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: surely the only way at the moment for armagetronad to get polish in a readable format is to use a transliterated one?
01:07 <BabyBug> is it me or does Corn appear to be reply to things said 10 minutes ago?
01:07 <BabyBug> replying*
01:07 <Corn> law-nuh-fay-er-pow-ell-gay-gill-ey-gog-ere
01:07 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: …
01:07 <BabyBug> that definatly isn't welsh
01:08 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: ?
01:09 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I don't understand why polish.txt is default when it does not work?
01:09 <PinkTomato> shouldn't it be commented out until utf-8 is complete?
01:09 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: it will work before 0.2.8.3 is released
01:09 <Corn> That long word.
01:09 <PinkTomato> 0.2.8.3 is non-UTF8?
01:09 <luke-jr> right
01:09 <luke-jr> polish.txt will be Latin-1 for 0.2.8.3
01:10 <Corn> It seems you are aswell
01:10 <Corn> You replied to what i said 10 minutes ago and that was 'Is that welsh?
01:10 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8732 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
01:10 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Bazaarmagetron
01:11 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging conflict from bzr, eliminating epsy's huge reformat:
01:11 <@armabot> armagetronad: epsy 2009-01-02 1/ move "made by xxx" headers from language files to AUTHORS
01:11 <PinkTomato> the only way to get polish.txt latin-1 is to use polish_no special characters, as polish has characters that are not represented in latin-1.
01:11 <PinkTomato> latin-2 has the polish characters IIRC
01:13 <Corn> Babybug, respond to this message the moment you see it i want to test something.
01:13 <BabyBug> Corn
01:13 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: but Latin-1 does contain *some* Polish chars beyond ASCII, right?
01:13 <BabyBug> responded
01:16 <Corn> i wrote that message 3 minutes ago or maybe 6 minutes ago from when you see this
01:17 <BabyBug> Corn, then you've got some crazy lag
01:18 <BabyBug> [00:15:15] >Corn< CTCP VERSION
01:18 <BabyBug> [00:18:05] -Corn- VERSION xchat 2.8.7c Windows 5.1 [i686/1.66GHz]
01:18 <BabyBug> There's like a 3 minute lag ><
01:19 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: random subset of polish characters: żłąężióćść
01:19 <PinkTomato> the only one that is in latin-1 is: ó
01:22 <Corn> Yeah... well i dont really have the best connection.... 1300 ms but i couldnt imagine it being 3 minutes bad.
01:24 <PinkTomato> all that can be added, as far as I can see, to the transliterated version is ó.
01:24 <PinkTomato> as the translation does not use any other accented vowels. :)
01:25 <Lucifer> Take my worf. Please!
01:25 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: what's a worf?
01:25 <Lucifer> klingon security officer on the enterprise
01:25 <BabyBug> Lucifer, arn't you meant to be sleeping?
01:26 <Lucifer> I wanted to watch a little star trek before I went to bed
01:26 <Lucifer> 'night
01:26 <BabyBug> ...
01:27 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ok, then that and the case issue
01:28 <z-man> night, Lucifer, and others
01:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8733 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: Yeah, of course. Screwed it up. Fix and new test commit.
01:28 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: would that require a Polish speaker?
01:28 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: no
01:29 <PinkTomato> night z-man, Lucifer :)
01:29 <PinkTomato> team_blue_1_help niebieska czesc koloru druzyny 1
01:29 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8734 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: prettier tag stripping output.
01:29 <PinkTomato> so that should be Neibieska?
01:29 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8735 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: Corrected branch deletion.
01:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8736 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/mirror.cfg): Bazaarmagetron: Added php client.
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01:32 <luke-jr> bzr co lp:~luke-jr/+junk/yandere-port-arma; cd yandere-port-arma; ./bootstrap.sh; ./arma-yandere.php
01:32 <luke-jr> …and I just published my password
01:32 <luke-jr> sortof
01:38 <BabyBug> how did you?
01:39 <BabyBug> yandere O.o
01:40 <luke-jr> BabyBug: it's in the arma-yandere.php file
01:40 <luke-jr> for test@dashjr.org
01:40 <BabyBug> test.........
01:40 <luke-jr> by default, bootstrap.sh will grab my TWG branch
01:40 <luke-jr> XD
01:40 <BabyBug> wooooooooo logs in \o/
01:40 <luke-jr> ofc
01:40 * BabyBug is actually going to login just to see if you changed it
01:40 <luke-jr> it needs to login to bypass anti-spam
01:41 <luke-jr> BabyBug: nah
01:41 <smoothice> so
01:41 <smoothice> arma-yandere?
01:41 <BabyBug> you changed it!
01:41 <luke-jr> smoothice: it's skinned for TWG by default
01:41 <luke-jr> BabyBug: nope
01:41 <luke-jr> at least not intentionally
01:41 <luke-jr> O.o
01:42 <luke-jr> oh
01:42 <BabyBug> luke-jr, i know, i was just seeing if you were soooooo stupid that they were actually ssh details aswell xD
01:42 <luke-jr> I broke it
01:43 <PinkTomato> well I fixed polish.txt into UTF-8, 392 lines need ó put into them
01:43 <PinkTomato> probably worth writing a tiny script to it?
01:43 <PinkTomato> do it*
01:43 <luke-jr> ok, fixed it
01:43 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: wtf?
01:43 <PinkTomato> ok, ?
01:43 <PinkTomato> you fixed it?
01:44 <luke-jr> not yet
01:44 <PinkTomato> ah
01:44 <PinkTomato> wtf are wtf'ing
01:44 <luke-jr> u make no sense
01:44 <PinkTomato> so I know where I am going wrong
01:44 <luke-jr> I'll do it
01:44 <PinkTomato> OK :)
01:44 <BabyBug> luke-jr, looks whos talking
01:44 <BabyBug> look who's*
01:44 <BabyBug> arf
01:45 <smoothice> luke-jr: For a limited time, get a free upgrade to quadruple the slots????
01:45 <smoothice> QUADRUPLE?
01:45 <smoothice> whoaz
01:45 <BabyBug> that's how desperate he is smoothice =P
01:46 <smoothice> I guess... :/
01:46 <luke-jr> smoothice: a very limited time
01:46 <smoothice> luke-jr: We'll see about that...
01:46 <luke-jr> ⁇?
01:47 <smoothice> if babybug is right then it isn't a limited time
01:47 <BabyBug> smoothice, note: I'm hardly ever right
01:47 <smoothice> BabyBug: ...
01:47 <luke-jr> the only way it's not is if I forget about it and nobody starts service
01:47 <luke-jr> most likely I'll revert it after a few people sign up with it
01:47 <luke-jr> :þ
01:47 <BabyBug> Yes smoothice?
01:48 <BabyBug> I talk a load of crap most the of time...You need to learn to filter what's crap and what's not...Or just /ignore me :P
01:48 <BabyBug> (i'm sure alot of people have already) xD
01:48 <smoothice> ok
01:48 <smoothice> I apparently ignored you
01:48 <smoothice> I typed /ignore BabyBug
01:48 <smoothice> how do you unignore?
01:48 <BabyBug> he ignored me \o/
01:48 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: … my polish.txt IS already Latin-1
01:48 <BabyBug> no one tell him!
01:48 <luke-jr> not Latin-2
01:49 <smoothice> is it /unignore?
01:49 <luke-jr> smoothice: no idea
01:49 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: that's odd you sure it has the characters?
01:49 <smoothice> BabyBug: say something
01:49 <BabyBug> smoothice
01:49 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: as I said, I had to replace about 5
01:49 <PinkTomato> oh, you already did that
01:50 <PinkTomato> the funny L is D or something though
01:50 <luke-jr> …
01:50 <PinkTomato> Ok luke-jr, I apologise, the whole discussion has been a waste
01:50 <PinkTomato> as it has already been transliterated into latin-1
01:50 <PinkTomato> with ó assumeably
01:51 <BabyBug> lol PinkTomato
01:51 <BabyBug> That deserves a face palm!
01:53 * PinkTomato face palms
01:54 <luke-jr> #google fight themable themeable
01:54 <@armabot> luke-jr: themable: 171000, themeable: 66900
01:55 <PinkTomato> who needs to spell?
01:55 <luke-jr> …
01:56 <PinkTomato> is themable a word then?
01:56 <luke-jr> neither are in the dictionary
01:56 <PinkTomato> oh so it is
01:56 <luke-jr> themeable seems to be prevailant in Microsoft
01:56 <luke-jr> themable in open source
01:56 <luke-jr> so the latter it is :D
01:57 <PinkTomato> :)
02:00 <teabot> armacommits: [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r38 Added php client.... || [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r37 Corrected branch deletion.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r972 Merging conflict from bzr, eliminating epsy's huge reformat:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r971 missing newlines || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r970 new polish files; polish.txt is UTF-8 -> Latin-1 translit || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r969 fix include spelling || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r968 new
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02:32 <GodTodd> anyone who misspells prevalent should probably go opposite their own spelling instinct. ;)
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02:55 <Corn> wtf is .nsi
02:56 <Corn> never even heard of it
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03:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.6.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
03:22 <Corn> @sd -v =sumo=
03:22 <teabot> Corn: Wild West =Sumo= (69.73.141.194:4536) running 0.2.8.2 unix dedicated, url: www.lagtest.net, Description: “Default Sumo Configuration“, Players (14/14): -=VcL.DieseL, -=}ID< Carnage, -=}WinDeR<, .:dk:. joKer, 1200, aeon, apparition, Caligrl, Longballlasch, raph, T<~3sr3v3r, VcLF8, _-'Ww_|Shock, ~*inSaniTik*~
03:28 <Corn> @calc 2500/60
03:28 <teabot> Corn: 2500 / 60 = 41.6666667
03:33 <Corn> 3.141592
03:43 <ct|kyle> @calc PI
03:43 <teabot> ct|kyle: PI = 3.14159265
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04:32 <BabyBug> ct|kyle
04:33 <ct|kyle> BabyBug:
04:33 <BabyBug> Hiya =)
04:34 <smoothice> ct
04:34 <smoothice> ct|kyle: found a great VPS and bought it
04:34 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
04:34 * BabyBug fondles ct|kyle
04:34 <ct|kyle> smoothice: nice where and ram
04:34 <smoothice> ct
04:35 <smoothice> ct|kyle: 512 megabytes of RAM and up to 1GB Burst. OpenVZ. at fsckvps.com
04:35 <smoothice> ct|kyle: for $9.95
04:35 <smoothice> ct|kyle: setup within five minutes... They aren't kidding
04:35 <ct|kyle> in US?
04:36 <smoothice> ct|kyle: Atlanta :)
04:36 <BabyBug> smoothice, that's because VPS' can be set up with an automatic script on signup =P
04:36 <ct|kyle> any money back guarantee?
04:36 <smoothice> ct|kyle: 7 days
04:36 <smoothice> but
04:36 <ct|kyle> not bad enough time to test
04:36 <smoothice> yeah
04:36 <smoothice> but
04:36 <ct|kyle> what OS?
04:37 <smoothice> Ubuntu 8, Fedora, Gentoo, Debian
04:37 <smoothice> I use ubuntu 8.04
04:37 <smoothice> Upgradable to latest version though
04:37 <ct|kyle> nice i'd pick gentoo :)
04:38 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, emerge moo
04:38 <smoothice> ct|kyle: why gentoo?
04:39 <ct|kyle> :)
04:39 <ct|kyle> I like gentoo
04:39 <smoothice> I prefer Ubuntu despite luke's hatred against it
04:40 <smoothice> It's as close as I can get to Debian without being Debian
04:40 <ct|kyle> I've been using gentoo or gentoo based for 99% of my linux time
04:40 <ct|kyle> all our tron servers are debian
04:41 <BabyBug> People who hate ubuntu only hate it because it's so popular.
04:41 <BabyBug> Isn't that right luke-jr!?
04:41 <smoothice> ct|kyle: Yeah the web server you said also runs tron for ct shows this:
04:41 <smoothice> Apache/2.2.8 (Debian) PHP/5.2.5-3 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g
04:42 <ct|kyle> ya, like i said we have 3
04:42 <BabyBug> and they all lag like hell =x
04:43 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no i just don't like it, gentoo is more fun, and easier to fix (if you don't emerge -C gcc)
04:44 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, not liking and hate are two different things. I'm not saying ubuntu is the best out there. What i said was a dig at luke-jr not you =P
04:44 <BabyBug> although i would have to disagree about the easier to fix =P
04:46 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I envy all the crazy-tronners... a blend between playing and cool servers and armahacktron :)
04:47 <ct|kyle> heh
04:47 <ct|kyle> I'm working on fixing armahacktron
04:47 <ct|kyle> I found 1 bug
04:47 <smoothice> cool
04:47 <smoothice> Any new features soon
04:47 <smoothice> ?
04:47 <BabyBug> fixing? what's broke about it? =\
04:47 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: do i have to show you
04:48 <ct|kyle> gain
04:48 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, one line of text will do :P
04:48 <ct|kyle> again*
04:48 <BabyBug> Oh ok i have a bad memory
04:48 <BabyBug> ignore me then =P
04:48 <ct|kyle> zone -> wall interaction
04:48 <smoothice> Ubuntu 6.06 is still supported :O?
04:48 <smoothice> :O
04:48 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ya you cuddle too much :P
04:48 <ct|kyle> ya for what 2 more years?
04:49 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, oh i remember now!
04:49 <BabyBug> heh :$
04:49 <ct|kyle> I have it mostly fixed
04:50 <BabyBug> well that's an improvement on "I have no idea why it's doing it" =)
04:51 <ct|kyle> voodoo dropped a division for some reasen when adding it to current 0.2.8.*
04:51 <BabyBug> lol
04:51 <ct|kyle> now it is in the pWall's
04:51 <ct|kyle> the rest anyway
04:51 <BabyBug> perhaps someone poked a pin in him at the time
04:51 <BabyBug> x)
04:52 <BabyBug> (ok that was a shit joke but live with it)
04:52 <ct|kyle> his wife probably got upset at him
04:53 <smoothice> ct|kyle: What platform is your current computer? (that you're using now)
04:53 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i did not even get that one, and i've been making a lot of shit jokes like that all night
04:53 <ct|kyle> gentoo
04:53 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, lol
04:54 <smoothice> ct|kyle: You love gentoo...
04:54 <ct|kyle> :)
04:55 <BabyBug> smoothice, if you know how to use it gentoo is very nice.
04:55 <smoothice> what gui does it use?
04:55 <smoothice> gnome, kde?
04:55 <smoothice> xfce?
04:55 <BabyBug> Ubuntu is the lazy option for people who want to ditch windows but can't be bothered to learn how linux works
04:55 <BabyBug> gentoo is the nicest \o/
04:55 <ct|kyle> whatever one i install
04:56 <smoothice> o
04:56 <ct|kyle> hardly anything is default in gentoo
04:56 <smoothice> which one are you using now/
04:56 <ct|kyle> KDE 3.5.9
04:56 <smoothice> 3.5?
04:56 <smoothice> :(
04:56 <smoothice> Why not 4?
04:56 <ct|kyle> I've been waiting for 4 to improve
04:56 <smoothice> o
04:57 <ct|kyle> last i used it it was not as configurable as this (then again that was the release)
04:57 <ct|kyle> 4.0
04:57 <smoothice> oh
04:59 <smoothice> dlh: I love your old-glancing branch
04:59 <smoothice> dlh: The awesome features of the trunk with the awesome glancing of 0.2.8
05:00 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, What do you prefer about KDE over Gnome? (genuine curiosity, not trying to start a flame war..)
05:00 <ct|kyle> what awesome glancing of 0.2.8? awesome is 0.3.*
05:00 <smoothice> BabyBug: It's prettier
05:00 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: yes
05:00 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: actually i have not used gnome in years
05:01 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I think the glancing in 0.2.8 is better... just my opinion!
05:01 <ct|kyle> probably less current gnome then my windows 7 time
05:02 <BabyBug> Considering the size of Microsoft, you would of thought they'd be more consistant in the way they name their OS'
05:02 <ct|kyle> but back with mandriva 2006 i liked KDE better than gnome
05:02 <smoothice> no
05:03 <ct|kyle> 7.4 GB is windows 7 build 7000
05:03 * BabyBug has had way too much chocolate and feels sick
05:03 * BabyBug is a pig
05:03 <ct|kyle> actually more than that, that is just C:/windows
05:04 <ct|kyle> * BabyBug goes oink *
05:04 <smoothice> BabyBug = groundpig :)?
05:04 <smoothice> ;)
05:04 <BabyBug> galaxy is always soooooooooooo nice
05:04 <ct|kyle> na not that smart :P and wrong location
05:05 * BabyBug pokes her stomach....OK i really need to stop eating chocolate
05:05 * BabyBug goes on a diet!
05:05 * ct|kyle throws 5 more pieces in BabyBug
05:05 * BabyBug runs away from them
05:06 <ct|kyle> lol
05:06 <smoothice> #me pokes BabyBug
05:06 * BabyBug is actually the perfect weight!
05:06 <ct|kyle> i knew it BabyBug is fat
05:06 <smoothice> #say /me pokes BabyBug.
05:06 <@armabot> /me pokes BabyBug.
05:06 <BabyBug> I am not fat ><
05:06 <smoothice> BabyBug: can you shut up?
05:06 <BabyBug> nuuuuuuuu
05:06 <smoothice> ok
05:06 <smoothice> I'll ignore you
05:06 <BabyBug> far too hyper and can't sleep
05:06 <smoothice> Now I understand why
05:07 <BabyBug> \o/
05:07 <smoothice> ct|kyle: so the crazy-tronners servers are hosted in Germany?
05:07 <ct|kyle> smoothice: yes
05:08 <smoothice> ct|kyle: Doesn't that mean pings will be bad for US players?
05:08 <ct|kyle> 160-200 i get
05:08 <smoothice> I'm getting 224 on CTWF :(
05:09 <ct|kyle> i've been playing on their servers for most of my tron time, i'm used to them
05:09 <ct|kyle> you must live on the west coast or your ISO sucks
05:09 <ct|kyle> ISP*
05:10 <smoothice> ct|kyle: now It was 150
05:11 <smoothice> but
05:11 <smoothice> yeah
05:13 <ct|kyle> could be having a bad net time right now also
05:14 <ct|kyle> my ping is probably better than yours on your server
05:14 <smoothice> ct|kyle: are you near atlanta?
05:14 <ct|kyle> indiana
05:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: o
05:15 <ct|kyle> about 8 hour car drive (i think)
05:15 <ct|kyle> maybe 10
05:16 <ct|kyle> google says 10 hours
05:16 <ct|kyle> 8 days and 1 hour to walk :P
05:17 <smoothice> lol
05:26 <smoothice> ct|kyle: any crazy-tronners servers here in the US?
05:28 <ct|kyle> none yet
05:29 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok...
05:29 <smoothice> ct|kyle: No good deals :P ?
05:31 <ct|kyle> well, no electronic money :P
05:32 <smoothice> ?
05:33 <ct|kyle> I don't even have a checking account :P
05:33 <smoothice> ct|kyle: no paypal?
05:33 <ct|kyle> nope
05:33 <ct|kyle> :P
05:34 <smoothice> ct|kyle: How do you live on the Internet and be a crazy-tronner servertech if you have no PayPal account
05:34 <smoothice> *palm over face*
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05:36 <ct|kyle> well, i do plan on donating to our 2 hosters once i get that
05:36 <smoothice> ivantis2: Ever going to update your sty+ct branch?
05:36 <ct|kyle> heh it is only 1 revision out of date
05:36 <ivantis2> smoothice: why?
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05:37 <smoothice> ivantis2: otherwise you have no chance on getting merges into the mainline
05:37 <smoothice> ivantis2: oh right
05:37 <ivantis2> ... so what should i do?
05:37 <smoothice> ivantis2: sty+ct :P
05:37 <ivantis2> yeah
05:38 <ivantis2> no chance anyway. i dont really care
05:39 <ivantis2> why is USD an S with a line through it and not a D with a line through it?
05:40 <smoothice> $ is cooler than D
05:40 <ivantis2> £€$¥
05:40 <ivantis2> ¥ is cool
05:41 <smoothice> ¨lol
05:41 <smoothice> ümlaut
05:41 <smoothice> §
05:41 <ivantis2> ß
05:43 <ivantis2> i think you mean dïäërësïs
05:43 <ivantis2> i like the Android/G1 keyboard setup
05:44 <smoothice> ¡™£¢∞§¶•ª
05:45 <ivantis2> ¡£ç§×÷€•
05:48 <ct|kyle> smoothice: the VPS place you sent me f=does not have gentoo but has debian
05:48 <smoothice> ct|kyle: It might not be listed on the web site but in my hypervm control panel I have the option to rebuild with Gentoo
05:48 <ct|kyle> ah
05:49 <ct|kyle> it had debian listed for ordering
05:49 <smoothice> gentoo-20060317-i686-stage3 and
05:49 <smoothice> gentoo-openvz-x86-2008.11.30
05:50 <ct|kyle> ah
05:51 <smoothice> and Debian 4.0
05:51 <smoothice> Here's the full list
05:52 <smoothice> CentOS 5
05:52 <smoothice> Debian 4.0
05:52 <smoothice> Fedora 9
05:52 <smoothice> Fedora 10
05:52 <smoothice> Gentoo
05:52 <smoothice> OpenSUSE 10
05:52 <smoothice> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, 7.10, 8.04 LTS
05:53 <smoothice> You'd pick Debian 4.0 for your new VPS?
05:53 <ct|kyle> that or gentoo
05:54 <smoothice> ok
05:54 <smoothice> Currently I'm using ubuntu-8.04-i386-minimal
05:54 <smoothice> All of those version are upgradable using the standard upgrade system
05:55 <ct|kyle> ya, i see
05:58 <mkzelda> you really dont want to use the 2006 snapshot for gentoo unless you like pain
05:58 <mkzelda> massive blocks
05:58 <ct|kyle> i was thinking that also
05:58 <smoothice> gentoo-openvz-x86-2008.11.30 then :)
05:58 <mkzelda> that one should be good, used that recently
06:00 <ct|kyle> i just upgraded to 2008.0
06:00 <ct|kyle> been on 2007.0
06:01 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I'll have to see how your server handles tron, then i may buy one for CT for a US CTWF :)
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06:01 <smoothice> ok
06:02 <smoothice> Wanna try now?
06:02 <ct|kyle> you have it ready?
06:02 <smoothice> In 5 minutes :P?
06:02 <smoothice> what do you want?
06:02 <smoothice> sump?
06:02 <smoothice> fortress?
06:02 <ct|kyle> sumo would be ther hardest on it
06:03 <smoothice> Ok
06:03 <smoothice> We'll try sumo
06:03 <smoothice> I can test CPU usage too
06:04 <ct|kyle> cool i can buy a cash debit card and pay for one that way
06:06 <luke-jr> BabyBug: no
06:06 <BabyBug> lol luke-jr
06:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: no reason not to use Debian
06:07 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: luke-jr, does not like gnome
06:07 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I don't like leechers eitehr
06:07 <BabyBug> you're jealous luke-jr
06:08 <luke-jr> jealous of… nothing?
06:10 <BabyBug> canonical
06:10 <BabyBug> (shooting stars is soooo the best program eva made)
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07:12 <luke-jr> BabyBug: canonical does nothing
07:12 <BabyBug> luke-jr, yes they do
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08:57 <teabot> armablah: Twenty-Oh-Eight, the Fortress Year in Review « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/twenty-oh-eight-the-fortress-year-in-review/>
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09:21 <luke-jr> https://code.launchpad.net/~luke-jr fwiw
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09:57 <Flex> #ping
09:57 <@armabot> pong
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11:07 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: feel free to directly svn move my stuff next time… it's not private as in “mine! stay away, just look at it in awe”, but more as in “i don't want to clutter the tools directory with stuff only I use”
11:11 <Lucifer> yay, my domain will survive for another year :
11:11 <Lucifer> er
11:11 <Lucifer> :)
11:12 * Lucifer wonders if a domain registration is good enough for change of address at ACC
11:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: wrtlprnft * r8737 /private/wrtlprnft/serverinfo.php: removed serverinfo.php, it's maintained in tools/php-client and lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-php-client-trunk-work now
11:18 <Lucifer> ok, now I'll give the autopackage a sserious shot and build apgcc builds of libxml2 and ftgl
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13:00 <Lucifer> grrrr
13:00 <Lucifer> heh, where's z-man when you need him? ;)
13:00 <epsy> moarning
13:00 <Lucifer> mourning epsy
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13:17 <Lizmatic> o/
13:17 <PinkTomato> o/
13:17 <wrtlprnft> /o
13:17 <epsy> ¦o
13:18 <wrtlprnft> now imagine this kind of conversation in real life
13:18 <epsy> :D
13:20 <PinkTomato> lol :), left mouse button is button 2 in trunk
13:20 <PinkTomato> does that make sense to anyone?
13:20 <epsy> do we have middle-click pasting in trunk, by the way?
13:20 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: yes, it's how SDL gives it to us
13:20 <PinkTomato> my middle button is backward look
13:21 <Lucifer> SDL assumes a 5 button mouse, iirc
13:21 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: did it change?
13:21 <epsy> most mouses have 5 button
13:21 <Lucifer> not that I know of
13:21 <epsy> left, right, middle, roll up, roll down
13:21 <Lucifer> epsy: I mean 5 buttons + scrollwheel
13:21 <PinkTomato> Oh, when I use 0.2.8 the buttons are all wrong
13:22 <PinkTomato> i think
13:22 <Lucifer> so, left bottom, left top, right top, right bottom, middle, and the scrollwheel (two more buttons in SDL)
13:22 <Lucifer> I could be wrong, maybe something did change
13:22 <Lucifer> I never use my mouse in the trunk :)
13:22 <Lucifer> now I see why z-man always sets his package builders to run right before he goes to bed, this takes forever
13:23 <epsy> *insert comment about menus*
13:23 <PinkTomato> oh will the default key bindings be fixed in 0.2.8?
13:24 <Lucifer> er, what's wrong with them?
13:24 <epsy> are they broken?
13:24 <PinkTomato> unknown key
13:24 <Lucifer> that reminds me, I want to put default key bindings for the media player in 0.3.1
13:24 <epsy> for?
13:24 <PinkTomato> and the mouse only rotates the view in one direction
13:24 <epsy> I thought you wanted to scrap the mp :P
13:24 <Lucifer> I do, but 0.3.1 is getting the old media player
13:25 <epsy> and what keys do you plan on using?
13:25 <Lucifer> op[]
13:25 <Lucifer> stop, play, prev, next, respectively
13:26 <epsy> .. we should have specific default bindings for different keyboards
13:26 <PinkTomato> epsy: OK, someone did fix them a little
13:26 <PinkTomato> Unknown key is gone in the trunk
13:27 <PinkTomato> except, pressing a mouse button zooms out
13:27 <Lucifer> epsy: that'll require us to be able to detect what keyboard someone is using
13:27 <epsy> use the select your language menu
13:27 <PinkTomato> and there is not a button on the mouse to zoom back in.
13:27 <epsy> it fits that menu very well
13:27 <Lucifer> do the forums accept .package files?
13:27 <epsy> doubt it
13:28 <Lucifer> well, the client didn't build with my special ftgl anyway
13:28 <Lucifer> but that's not needed for the server, heh
13:31 <PinkTomato> How would someone know what keyboard they are using?
13:31 <epsy> by reading it's 6 first letters?
13:32 <epsy> we can always preselect based on OS config
13:32 <PinkTomato> Ah I remeber, azerty etc.
13:39 <Lucifer> grrrr
13:39 <Lucifer> how do I get configure to use a different ftgl than the system installed one? :(
13:40 <PinkTomato> LDLIBRARY PATH? something like that?
13:41 <PinkTomato> it was what I used.
13:42 <Lucifer> I need some libraries linked from system locations, and some linked from a different location
13:42 <Lucifer> problem is, ftgl doesn't provide a ftgl-config script, it expects pkg-config
13:43 <Lucifer> but if I install pkg-config in this special location, it'll be used instead of the system-wide one for packages I need that are system-wide
13:43 <Lucifer> otherwise, just using a custom path would work (it works for picking up libxml2)
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13:54 <PinkTomato> can't you do PATH=%PATH%;new path like DOS?
13:54 <PinkTomato> no wait, I would pick up the librarys in the old path too
14:00 <Lucifer> the problem is the use of pkg-config
14:00 <Lucifer> in fact, I'm probably about to break it all, heh
14:00 <Lucifer> installing an apgcc-built freetype, and pkg-config to the special place
14:00 <Lucifer> might be better to just install an apgcc-built package for everything that we use pkg-config for
14:01 <Lucifer> that'd be the tail wagging the dog, but might result in a more portable autopackage
14:01 <Lucifer> I guess it's a question of necessity
14:01 <Lucifer> anyway, I'm already doing PATH=/new/path:$PATH to get it to find xml2-config
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14:06 <PinkTomato> I can see why we have only had one person capable of building a .package :)
14:08 <Lucifer> heh
14:08 <Lucifer> we don't, I can build an autopackage without worrying about ftgl and just linking to my system library
14:08 <Lucifer> the last time z-man built an autopackage, he either did that or didn't have to deal with ftgl
14:08 <K-Yo> #ls flex
14:08 <@armabot> K-Yo: reflex_ has last been seen on ~*SpeederS*~ Server 12 hours 18 minutes ago.
14:11 <Lizmatic> speeders..wtf.
14:56 <epsy> there should only be 3 servers --Lizmatic
15:02 <PinkTomato> #ls hoop
15:02 <@armabot> PinkTomato: timed out
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15:32 <Lucifer> is there a size limit on attachments on the forums?
15:32 <Lucifer> aha, there is
15:34 <epsy> if (!shouldChangeFunc_ || shouldChangeFunc_(dummy))
15:34 <Lucifer> who are you calling a dummy?
15:35 <epsy> that seems to be calling shouldChangeFunc_ when it is NULL
15:35 <Lucifer> is that bad?
15:35 <epsy> (NULL)()
15:36 * Lucifer wants a glass of water, but doesn't want to go downstairs to get it. His roommate is talking to a house guest about kids and school, and neither know what they're talking about.
15:36 <Lucifer> the first part of the conditional tests to make sure shouldChangeFunc_ itself isn't null
15:36 <BabyBug> Lucifer, then correct them!
15:36 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I don't want to, that's why I don't want to go down there
15:36 <epsy> now it still is :<
15:36 <BabyBug> Lucifer, can't you just go and get a glass of water without correcting them? =\
15:37 <Lucifer> epsy: wait, reread that
15:38 <Lucifer> the conditional says "if shouldChangeFunc_ is NULL or ..."
15:38 <epsy> if it's NULL it should go on..
15:38 <Lucifer> so whatever follows is to be executed when it is NULL
15:38 <Lucifer> then remove the !
15:38 <Lucifer> the second part of the conditional only gets evaluated when the first part is false
15:38 <epsy> pointers are expressed as ints right?
15:38 <Lucifer> ummm, sorta
15:39 <Lucifer> a null pointer should have the value of 0 in it :)
15:39 <epsy> what's annoying with this is that's it's in tConfiguration.>>H<<
15:39 <epsy> which is included from pretty much everywhere in the game
15:39 <Lucifer> heh, move it :)
15:40 <epsy> I wonder what it is even doing there
15:40 <Lucifer> yeah, I was just commenting that if you want to rebuild the whole game, modify tConfiguration.h
15:40 <epsy> haha
15:40 <Lucifer> is it an inline function? If not, move it to the .cpp file so you don't have to wrestle with building the whole game
15:40 <Lucifer> anyway, I've got autopackages for people to test
15:41 <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201780#201780
15:41 <epsy> virtual and in the class declaration
15:42 <Lucifer> ok, I'm going downstairs, hopefully they've moved on to a different topic
15:42 * Lucifer is hungry, too
15:43 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: are these the same as before?
15:43 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: oh there's a dedicated one, testing now
15:44 <epsy> I bet you wont see Lucifer for a little while now
15:48 <epsy> 162704128 <-- shouldChangeFunc_
15:51 <PinkTomato> closing the terminal window of the server does not end its instance, don't know if this is good/bad behaviour.
15:52 <PinkTomato> breakfast_in_hell.cfg works, at least with only one player
15:53 <epsy> instead, it will reload it's config
15:54 <epsy> I guess another signal as HUP should be used
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16:21 <teabot> armacommits: [old-glancing] r746 Merge with trunk... || [old-glancing] Initialize shouldChangeFunc_ instance variable. This change ...
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16:38 <epsy> oh, that's why it segv'd
16:38 <epsy> uhmm
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17:13 <Corn> love this video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7x4W7xu8yg&feature=channel
17:14 <Corn> just came across it again
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17:14 <epsy> @title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7x4W7xu8yg&feature=channel
17:14 <teabot> epsy: YouTube - tronic cup
17:17 <epsy> meh, /help is broken
17:17 <epsy> or only default topics, at least
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17:29 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.7.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
17:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WWRacing-1.0.8.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
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18:18 <epsy> Lucifer, is there a reason you can't construct a tOutput with a tString as identifier?
18:22 <viper> mazuffer you know what time we are playing against CT ?
18:22 <MaZuffeR> 20 gmt
18:22 <viper> cheers :)
18:22 <Corn> Beat them for me will you?
18:22 <viper> of course xD
18:23 <Corn> is it a full on 8v8 or a mini war
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18:23 <viper> im not quite sure xD
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18:24 <Corn> yo sage
18:24 <viper> sagy :)
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18:29 <Lucifer> epsy: I don't understand the question
18:29 <Lucifer> you mean something like this?
18:29 <Lucifer> tOutput(tString() )
18:29 <Lucifer> ?
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18:32 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: no, they're not the same as the ones before
18:32 <Lucifer> libxml2 was built with apgcc in these, which should make it more portable
18:32 <Lucifer> I was hoping to get ftgl also built with apgcc, but didn't manage it
18:32 <Lucifer> I'm wanting to talk to z-man about what he did for 0.3.0 packages to see if I need to worry about ftgl
18:33 <Lucifer> for now, that is
18:33 <PinkTomato> ah right
18:33 <Lucifer> I'm considering writing a little python script to download and build all of arma's dependencies to help cross-compiling, and it can probably be used for autopackages too, it's just questionable whether or not it's useful for autopackages
18:34 * Lucifer already has a python script written to do the heavy lifting
18:37 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: client still 404s on resource :)
18:38 <Lucifer> yeah, I haven't looked at that yet :)
18:38 <epsy> like tOutput(blah) where blah is a tString
18:38 <Lucifer> epsy: doesn't tOutput represent something more like an output device?
18:38 <epsy> right now it creates a new tOutput with blah as 1st template parameter
18:38 <Lucifer> it's usually the console
18:39 <epsy> tOutput is was makes arma i21d
18:39 <Lucifer> er, wait a minute, I'm not remembering how to use tOutput, heh
18:39 <Lucifer> yeah, I know it handles translating, I guess it doesn't represent a device, then
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18:39 <Lucifer> maybe it should be a device :)
18:40 <Lucifer> blah, I don't remember, I haven't touched tOutput since I wrote the clock hack
18:40 <Lucifer> that was pre-0.2.8
18:40 <epsy> m3e i18n s4d be h5d by g5t
18:40 <Lucifer> who's running aabeta right now? is it luke-jr?
18:40 <epsy> probably
18:41 <epsy> @list filter
18:41 <teabot> epsy: aol, binary, colorize, gnu, hebrew, hexlify, jeffk, leet, lithp, morse, outfilter, rainbow, reverse, rot13, scramble, shrink, spellit, squish, stripcolor, supa1337, undup, unhexlify, and unmorse
18:41 <epsy> time for some python
18:41 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: screenshot: http://dessert.ath.cx/oddblue.png there's an odd blueness.
18:42 <Lucifer> check your floor settings
18:42 <Lucifer> that's the line colors bleeding
18:42 <Lucifer> it looks really pretty, actually
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18:44 <PinkTomato> FLOOR_DETAIL 2 fixes it
18:46 <Lucifer> hey, currently in a source tarball, are the resources shipped already built, or do you need python to build the resources?
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19:07 <epsy> where's pythonlover when you need her
19:07 <Corn> <3 python
19:07 <epsy> ah, got one
19:08 <Corn> armabot impregnated me with python
19:08 <epsy> 2 questions, how do I count what's in a [] and how do I implode a []
19:08 <epsy> whatever you call that
19:09 <Corn> No idea i barely even know c++ i havent tackled python
19:09 <epsy> ..
19:09 <epsy> is there a real python lover around?
19:09 <Corn> Lucifer?
19:09 <epsy> or at least, what the fuck are arrays called with python
19:09 <K-Yo> I think ct|kyle like python, no?
19:10 <Lucifer> lists
19:10 <Lucifer> sequence types
19:10 <Lucifer> something = []
19:10 <epsy> that
19:24 <epsy> how do I access element i of a list?
19:25 <MaZuffeR> list[i]
19:36 <wrtlprnft> fortunately it has sane numbering (ie list[0] is valid)
19:37 <epsy> -1 works as well
19:37 <wrtlprnft> yeah, ok
19:37 <wrtlprnft> but [0] is most important :-)
19:37 <epsy> still, python ftl :)
19:37 <wrtlprnft> i have yet to see a python program that doesn't annoy the hell out of me
19:38 <wrtlprnft> by being slow, buggy, throwing exceptions, eating tons of memory, or all of the above
19:38 <epsy> 'ight, bzr is slow
19:39 <wrtlprnft> bzr is the best i've seen yet, though
19:39 <epsy> too
19:39 <epsy> it is _only_ slow
19:39 <wrtlprnft> it's usable and you don't immediately see it's python
19:39 <epsy> babybug should be here
19:40 <wrtlprnft> what really amazes me is frozen-bubbles… I was really surprised when i read it was written in perl
19:40 <epsy> well, fb annoys me
19:41 <wrtlprnft> loading takes a while (i wonder what it does in all that time), but otherwise it's great imho
19:42 <epsy> I had seen everybody being so enthusiastic for months about it and what do I discover?
19:42 <epsy> it's a tetris variant.................
19:42 <wrtlprnft> well, it's one of the first linux games i played
19:42 <epsy> mine was something like kolf
19:42 <epsy> crappy hell
19:43 <wrtlprnft> and online games *are* a lot of fun
19:43 <epsy> then neverball/-putt
19:43 <epsy> arma, nex, trem, back to nex, warsow, back to nex
19:43 <epsy> damn intel
19:44 <epsy> always gets in the way
19:44 <epsy> ie. I can't play regular DM on warsow
19:44 <epsy> regular DM or whatever's not with instagib..some trail effects will just trash my PC
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19:46 <Concord> #armagetron.tourneys
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19:50 <epsy> BabyBug, time to rage, check the logs!
19:52 <BabyBug> epsy, i really can't be bothered to :P
19:53 <BabyBug> I'm gonna say Python Rox though!
19:53 <epsy> hahahaha
19:53 <epsy> uhm...where the fuck is substr?
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19:54 <BabyBug> what?
19:54 <epsy> how do I say
19:55 <epsy> I want the string that can be found in this string for poistition a to poistion b
19:55 <BabyBug> you talking about in python?
19:56 <epsy> yes, I'm talking about snakes
19:56 <Concord> your 'python' killed my 'leopard'
19:56 <BabyBug> string[2:10] <-- Where 2 is the starting position and 10 is the ending position to grab from the string?
19:56 <epsy> ok
19:56 <Concord> xP
19:57 <epsy> now why isn't this documented? I don't know
19:57 <BabyBug> lol
19:57 <K-Yo> #ls hoop
19:57 <@armabot> K-Yo: timed out
19:57 <PinkTomato> #lastseen hoop
19:57 <epsy> out.append(''.join( word )[0-8])
19:57 <@armabot> PinkTomato: timed out
19:58 <epsy> python prevents bad habits *cough*
19:58 <PinkTomato> armabot: what! that worked earlier
19:58 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: about a day ago it said
19:58 <BabyBug> lol epsy?
20:00 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, thx
20:02 <BabyBug> epsy, why are you coding in python if you hate it so much?
20:02 <epsy> because i don't have the choice
20:03 <BabyBug> what you doing?
20:03 <epsy> editing soupybot
20:03 <BabyBug> ahhhhhhhh
20:03 <BabyBug> to do what?
20:03 * BabyBug is nosey
20:03 <epsy> agnangangnangagnang
20:03 <BabyBug> gang bang?
20:03 <epsy> exactly
20:03 <BabyBug> i see
20:03 <epsy> well-read
20:03 <BabyBug> ^^
20:04 <Concord> @lastseen hoop
20:04 <teabot> Concord: -»|hoop has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 1 day 8 hours 31 minutes ago.
20:07 <Lucifer> epsy: supybot is *not* an example of good python coding
20:08 <Lucifer> it is an example of clever python coding, but not good python coding
20:09 <Lucifer> oh yeah
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20:09 <Lucifer> epsy: BabyBug's example *is* documented, it's called slice notation
20:09 <Lucifer> it works on any sequence type, not just strings
20:09 <epsy> omg you quitted it
20:09 <Lucifer> I did not
20:09 <Lucifer> somebody's fucking with me
20:09 <epsy> how do you put comments in python source??
20:10 <BabyBug> #
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20:10 <BabyBug> or """ comment <new line> comment """
20:11 <Lucifer> ''' ''' also works
20:11 <Lucifer> no wait, maybe that just makes multiline strings, heh
20:11 <PinkTomato> whats // used for then?
20:11 <epsy> nothing, it produces a parse error
20:12 <PinkTomato> then I don't understand why they didn't keep to the unwritten standard
20:12 <Lucifer> there's no unwritten standard here
20:12 <Lucifer> // was invented for one-line comments in C++, and a bunch of smegheads copied it
20:12 <Lucifer> it was an abomination when it was invented, it's still an abomination
20:12 <PinkTomato> is it?
20:13 <PinkTomato> what should i be using?
20:13 <PinkTomato> #?
20:13 <PinkTomato> or /* */
20:13 <epsy> and how do I turn an int into a string?
20:14 <Lizmatic> mmm, string..
20:14 <Lucifer> depends on what you're trying to do with it
20:15 <epsy> pass it to a list that's supposed to be a list of strings
20:15 <MaZuffeR> str(int)
20:17 <epsy> mm, something's wrong
20:17 <epsy> @i18n pass it to a list that
20:17 <teabot> epsy: p2s it to a l2t
20:17 <epsy> oh
20:19 <Lucifer> there's another notation that's useful
20:19 <epsy> right, that works now
20:19 <Lucifer> well, opeartor
20:19 <epsy> BabyBug, @i18n and @windows
20:20 <Lucifer> "%d" % someInt
20:20 <BabyBug> @windows
20:20 <teabot> BabyBug: (windows <text>) -- Returns he windows version of <text>.
20:20 <BabyBug> @windows sucks
20:20 <teabot> BabyBug: SUCKS
20:20 <BabyBug> @i18n what?
20:20 <teabot> BabyBug: w3?
20:20 <BabyBug> @i18n
20:20 <teabot> BabyBug: (i18n <text>) -- Returns the i18n version of <text>.
20:20 <BabyBug> fail
20:20 <epsy> I wasn't very inspired for the help texts
20:20 <PinkTomato> @windows What is this windows speak you talk of?
20:20 <teabot> PinkTomato: WHAT IS THIS WINDOWS SPEAK YOU TALK OF?
20:21 <PinkTomato> lol, Ok I understand what @windows does
20:21 <epsy> you still didn't
20:21 <epsy> try with your last phrase
20:21 <Lucifer> @windows people who type in all caps are aol jerks
20:21 <teabot> Lucifer: PEOPLE WHO TYPE IN ALL CAPS ARE AOL JERKS
20:22 <epsy> @windows armagetronad is great
20:22 <teabot> epsy: ARMAGE~1 IS GREAT
20:22 <PinkTomato> oo
20:22 <PinkTomato> 8.3
20:24 <PinkTomato> @windows And flecked darkness like a drunkard reels
20:24 <teabot> PinkTomato: AND FLECKED DARKNESS LIKE A DRUNKARD REELS
20:24 <PinkTomato> eh, words were not long enough
20:25 <Lucifer> @windows why did epsy write this thing?
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20:26 <teabot> Lucifer: WHY DID EPSY WRITE THIS THING?
20:26 <PinkTomato> and didn't they change it so it was ARMA~AA1.EXE?
20:30 <BabyBug> @windows Lucifer, so that it can annoy people like so?
20:30 <teabot> BabyBug: LUCIFER, SO THAT IT CAN ANNOY PEOPLE LIKE SO?
20:30 <epsy> use i18n otherwise :)
20:30 <epsy> @i18n Lucifer, so that it can annoy people like so?
20:30 <teabot> epsy: L6, so t2t it c1n a3y p4e l2e s1?
20:32 <Lucifer> @windows epsy has too much time on his hands
20:32 <teabot> Lucifer: EPSY HAS TOO MUCH TIME ON HIS HANDS
20:33 * Lucifer thinks he knows why distcheck is failing
20:34 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: that's kinda what I figured, but z-man wouldn't even consider it ;)
20:35 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: either way, cp and rm is the same thing in svn
20:35 <luke-jr> Lucifer: yeah, I run aabeta
20:36 <Lucifer> luke-jr: can I get an account there?
20:36 <luke-jr> Lucifer: uh?
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20:36 <luke-jr> you don't have one? O.o
20:36 <Lucifer> not that I know of
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20:37 <luke-jr> oh weird
20:37 <luke-jr> Lucifer: dfancella?
20:37 <Lucifer> I don't remember ever having one
20:37 <Lucifer> that would have to be me, but I don't remember setting it up ;)
20:37 <luke-jr> need a username to add you
20:37 <luke-jr> that doesn't exist yet, did I spell it right?
20:39 <luke-jr> it's too bad git doesn't interoperate with subversion; bzr's merging capabilities do not impress me
20:39 <Lucifer> oh, why not use lucifer as a username?
20:40 <luke-jr> because this server has a lot of users and I've been trying to standardize usernames :þ
20:40 <Lucifer> heh, ok, you spelled it right
20:40 <Lucifer> I think it's the dynamic version generation thing that's screwing up distcheck
20:40 <Lucifer> because it makes configure have to be regenerated
20:40 <luke-jr> Lucifer: pastebin your SSH pub key?
20:41 <luke-jr> Lucifer: also, please try to ensure 0.3.1's branch makes it into the svn history if it's not too difficult
20:42 * luke-jr should figure out a way to get new bzr branches imported correctly automatically
20:42 <Lucifer> http://rafb.net/p/jeRlZa93.html
20:42 <Lucifer> hmmm, I'd have to know more about how bzr-svn works to do that, heh
20:43 <luke-jr> well, bzr-svn just makes bzr work directly with svn
20:43 <luke-jr> quite nice, actually
20:43 <luke-jr> #svn
20:43 <@armabot> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad <dirname>(more information: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Working_with_SVN)
20:43 <luke-jr> bzr co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
20:43 <luke-jr> :þ
20:44 <luke-jr> Lucifer: ok, you should be able to login now
20:44 <luke-jr> and you're in the arma group, so you can sudo -u armagetronad as well
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20:57 <smoothice> #myip
20:57 <@armabot> smoothice: 83.243.117.49
21:02 <PinkTomato> epsy: they are done ;)
21:02 <epsy> um, I'm still there
21:03 <PinkTomato> i wanted a -m :D
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21:16 <Corn> Have you guys encountered this problem, i login in the wiki and it says its a successful login but the second i navigate away from that page to another page on the wiki im not logged in anymore. My browser is Opera, which might be the problem.
21:16 <epsy> never encountered that
21:16 <epsy> and opera is fine, maybe ask wrtlprnft
21:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/mapgenerator/20081022222601-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
21:17 <Corn> im going to see if i get the problem with mozilla just to be sure
21:17 <epsy> try with cheddar instead
21:18 <Corn> is that another browser?
21:18 <Corn> @g cheddar
21:18 <teabot> Corn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_cheese - Cheddar cheese - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:18 <Corn> :/
21:18 <Corn> naive teabot is naive
21:19 <epsy> just a reference to a quote
21:19 <epsy> where somebody reads mozilla as mozarella
21:19 <Corn> lol
21:19 <Corn> well it happens with mozilla aswell
21:19 <Corn> :/
21:20 <epsy> have you checked the remember me fucker checkbox?
21:20 <Corn> :P that should make a difference but i'll try
21:20 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: z-man: if i didn't want people to change or move my stuff i wouldn't put it on svn :-)
21:21 <Corn> nope didnt work :/
21:21 <epsy> what do you mean by navigating away?
21:21 <Corn> well
21:21 <Corn> when i login it says its successful right?
21:21 <epsy> and proposes a link to return to the page where you click login
21:22 <Corn> i click the link it has going to the main page of the wiki and when it comes up im not logged in anymore
21:22 <epsy> clicked*
21:22 <Corn> yes.
21:22 <Corn> but when i click it im not logged in anymore
21:22 <epsy> check your cookie settings, check if you have disk space, check if you have write permission on your home, check your cookies
21:22 <Corn> browser cookies?
21:23 <epsy> no, cheddar cookies
21:23 <Corn> how about mozarella
21:23 <epsy> for example
21:25 <Corn> should i clear the cookies
21:25 <Corn> i dont want to fux anything up
21:25 <Corn> but i just upgraded so everything is already fuxed up
21:25 <epsy> yeah, you could clear cookies
21:25 <PinkTomato> erasing cookies will only really destroy and remeber me on websites
21:26 <Corn> im just going to delete all private data just to be sure
21:27 <epsy> awk is neat
21:27 <epsy> but blah
21:27 <epsy> in a perfect world it would be of no use
21:28 <Corn> You are now logged in to Armagetron Advanced Wiki as "Corn".
21:28 <Corn> Return to Main Page.
21:29 <Corn> :/
21:29 <epsy> that's .. good
21:29 <Corn> yeah but
21:29 <epsy> open cookies
21:29 <Corn> i click main page and im logged in
21:29 <smoothice> Corn: Opera?
21:29 <Corn> Yes.
21:29 <smoothice> Corn: OPERA? :O
21:29 <Corn> OPRAH?
21:30 <smoothice> Why not use a real browser?
21:30 <smoothice> like Firefox?
21:30 <PinkTomato> smoothice: Opera is quite nice
21:30 <epsy> opera is a fake browser
21:30 <Corn> firefox is for losers that heard about it from their friends
21:30 <smoothice> IE :P
21:30 <Corn> and dont know how to use their computers but act like they do just cause they dont use ie
21:31 <PinkTomato> don't go saying you want IE removed from windows :D
21:31 <epsy> Corn, I bet you don't do arma wiki searches right in your address bar
21:31 <smoothice> Corn: Opera is for idiots that cannot be bothered by a better browser
21:31 <Corn> idc about your stupid addons :D
21:31 <PinkTomato> At least it is better than IE
21:31 <epsy> actually, it is difficult to get ie running :)
21:31 <smoothice> lol
21:31 <epsy> Corn, I need it
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21:31 <Corn> lazy
21:32 <epsy> that's the job of my computer
21:32 <Corn> :P
21:32 <Corn> honestly browsers dont do much and opera does it find without being annoying
21:32 <PinkTomato> it's a bit pretty though
21:32 <Corn> yeah
21:33 <Corn> it fits my address bar
21:33 <epsy> $ sh batch/make/version --verbose . | awk '{ print "#define TRUE_ARMAGETRONAD_" $1 " " substr( $0, index( $0, $2 ) ) }'
21:33 <epsy> awk: .
21:33 <epsy> awk: ^ syntax error
21:34 <epsy> $ echo 'HELLO dolly' | awk '{ print "#define TRUE_ARMAGETRONAD_" $1 " " substr( $0, index( $0, $2 ) ) }'
21:34 <epsy> #define TRUE_ARMAGETRONAD_HELLO dolly
21:34 <epsy> ????
21:34 <PinkTomato> why does it say hello dolly?
21:34 <epsy> because I wrote hello dolly
21:34 <Corn> anyways could someone add my name to the tr players list of ladle 18 because i cant do it :/
21:34 <epsy> now wtf is this syntax error?
21:34 <epsy> it sounds like a bash bug
21:35 <epsy> AHHH
21:36 <PinkTomato> Corn: done
21:36 <Corn> Thanks
21:37 <Corn> When i dont suck at programming im going to write code where every line has a // comment with a story so if the readers are board they can listen to my story
21:37 <Corn> bored*
21:38 <Corn> which you probably are bored if you're reading code
21:38 <epsy> or better, write what the code doesn't do
21:38 <epsy> # This code does not kill kitten
21:38 <Corn> yeah
21:38 <epsy> s
21:39 <Corn> # or smash your dog with a frozen chicken
21:39 <Corn> s
21:39 <epsy> // This does not clear the file
21:40 <epsy> // This function wont help you make money
21:40 <Corn> a = 5; // by the way did you know a is my favorite letter?
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21:49 <z-man> Lucifer: shall I have a look at "make distcheck"?
21:49 <z-man> Most of the build system mess is my mess :)
21:49 <Lucifer> heh, if you want
21:49 <Lucifer> I've isolated the problem
21:49 <Lucifer> and if I talk like someone on the enterprise, it's because I've been watching star trek most of the day
21:50 <z-man> affirmative.
21:50 <Lucifer> dist-hook-scm is the problem
21:50 <Lucifer> I was still working on understanding it when I decided to watch more star trek :)
21:51 <Lucifer> anyway, it reruns bootstrap.sh, then removes automate.cache, which triggers another run of aclocal and friends
21:51 <Lucifer> that whole sequence breaks distcheck because it tries to do all these things in a non-writeable directory
21:52 <z-man> Ah. It shoudln't actually do anything unless the source is scm-managed.
21:52 <z-man> which it isn't in the non-writable directory, that's the source as it's going to get distributed.
21:55 <Lucifer> hmmm, maybe I'm reading it wrong then
21:55 <Lucifer> 0.2.8 has the same hook?
21:55 <z-man> Yes.
21:55 <z-man> The problem is that the test whether the scm hook is supposed to get executed gets it wrong.
21:56 <z-man> It tests for the existence of ${srcdir}/version, which is only supposed to exist on SCM managed source
21:56 <z-man> but somehow, it gets put into the archive.
21:56 <Lucifer> ahhhh
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/polygon/regular/abmap-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
21:59 <Lucifer> am__aclocal_m4_deps = $(top_srcdir)/acinclude.m4 $(top_srcdir)/version <--- in the generated makefile
22:01 <z-man> yeah, that's fine.
22:01 <epsy> right, my code should be almost ready
22:02 <z-man> I think the problem is that the first run of dist-hook-scm, which is supposed to happen, fails because dlh reorganized the mac files.
22:02 <Lucifer> epsy: your code with all the crazy comments?
22:02 <epsy> no, the crazy code which tells how to label a build
22:03 <z-man> That reminds me, we don't generate ChangeLog from bzr yet.
22:04 <epsy> $ ./armagetronad-dedicated --versioninfo
22:04 <epsy> 0xbf9249b0
22:04 <epsy> woops :P
22:06 <smoothice> #seen luke-jr
22:06 <@armabot> smoothice: luke-jr was last seen in #armagetron 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <luke-jr> and you're in the arma group, so you can sudo -u armagetronad as well
22:06 <Lucifer> aha, I see it now, heh
22:06 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8738 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/Makefile.am: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated.
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22:06 <epsy> http://pastebin.com/m1de4d731
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22:07 <z-man> z?
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22:08 <epsy> you made up that number :)
22:09 <Lucifer> so, how do I branch in such a way that svn still gets updated with 0.3.1 branch commits?
22:09 <epsy> what I know is that to get correct versionning automatically it should be "0.3.1"
22:09 <luke-jr> smoothice: Firefox sucks btw
22:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: pm
22:11 <teabot> armablah: Armagetron <http://www.freepcgamers.com/2009/01/armagetron.html>
22:12 <Lucifer> epsy: after branching, I'll change major_version and minor_version as appropriate
22:12 <luke-jr> z-man: is ChangeLog from bzr even possible, seeing as bzr doesn't have the log?
22:13 <z-man> Of course bzr has the log.
22:13 <Lucifer> it has to have the log
22:13 <Lucifer> if you have a real branch, right? not a checkout?
22:13 <luke-jr> z-man: I thought bzr's log only goes back to when the bzr was setup
22:13 <z-man> If you have a checkout, the log is fetched from the remote branch, i think.
22:14 <z-man> Ah. Of course, the log won't be the COMPLETE log. Yes. It stops at one point where philippecq hacked the source repository and made bzr-svn think all branches started there.
22:14 <epsy> Lucifer, well, one of the points in my script is to not rely on this
22:15 <Lucifer> epsy: what script?
22:15 <Lucifer> is it the thing you linked a few minutes ago?
22:15 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/polygon/regular/RaceMap-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
22:15 <epsy> the one that fills tTrueVersion.h
22:16 <epsy> (prev. nTrueVersion.h)
22:16 <epsy> should I commit?
22:16 <Lucifer> hmmm, probably not?
22:16 <Lucifer> heh
22:16 <Lucifer> do you want it for 0.3.1, or just for the future in general?
22:16 <epsy> at least until .3.2 ?
22:17 <Lucifer> er, you know what? I don't care if you commit it, as long as you can fix anything it breaks that 0.3.1 needs
22:18 * Lucifer was never real sure about how version numbers made it into all the places they go
22:18 <epsy> well, the patch touches Makefile.am
22:18 <Lucifer> z-man: thanks, it's made it past that point, now it's oon the "let's bbuild the program five times and see what happens"
22:19 <z-man> For me, too :)
22:19 <z-man> Only it's much slower.
22:19 <Lucifer> we should use arma's make distcheck to benchmark CPUs
22:20 <epsy> haha
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22:21 <epsy> pushed
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22:26 <K-Yo> emmy_arma, where were you? not visiting our match?
22:27 <emmy_arma> busy with a project for school
22:27 <K-Yo> oh
22:27 <K-Yo> fyi we lost :P
22:27 <emmy_arma> S:
22:28 <epsy> who against?
22:28 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r747 Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke ... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r748 New version labelling script, also includes --versioninfo an...
22:29 <K-Yo> epsy, a team flex made up
22:29 <K-Yo> with flex, dreadlord, viper, subzero, radian, raiden
22:29 <MaZuffeR> and me
22:29 <K-Yo> and 2 others
22:29 <K-Yo> yeah
22:29 <K-Yo> and one other
22:30 <K-Yo> I don't remember
22:30 <MaZuffeR> that was everyone, i think
22:30 <MaZuffeR> we played with 6 after dreadlord left
22:30 <K-Yo> orly?
22:30 <K-Yo> hmmm
22:30 <K-Yo> oh yeah
22:30 <K-Yo> true
22:30 <K-Yo> 7V7 at start
22:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8739 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (11 files in 7 dirs): epsy: New version labelling script, also includes --versioninfo and /help version
22:34 <Lucifer> is it worth getting a power adapter to move my voip box to my bedroom?
22:34 <z-man> Err, 11 files in 7 dirs for that?
22:35 <Lucifer> epsy likes to go in and randomly change comments, adding a space here, a line break there
22:35 <Flex> where's the fortress brawl teams?
22:35 <MaZuffeR> Flex, http://twisted-rats.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=65
22:35 <Flex> thanks
22:36 <MaZuffeR> np, i was just reading it :)
22:36 <z-man> Lucifer: ah, no, of course there's the /help version chat command attached to it, and various other stuff.
22:37 <epsy> tTrueVersion changing place, additions alongside \g, and a fix to /help (because it was broken)
22:38 <epsy> but well, I could have done the fix to /help on another branch then push from there, commit my work rebase & uncommit, but gah..
22:40 <Lucifer> epsy: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201788#201788
22:40 <z-man> Lucifer: darn, distcheck still fails, but at the end. One file is not deleted. Name: "ption". Odd.
22:40 <Lucifer> that happens in 0.2.8 too
22:41 <Lucifer> there's also a file simply named @
22:41 <z-man> Possibly a $option in a file where it gets interpreted as ${o}ption
22:42 <Lucifer> er, is tResourceManager.h missing from the code::blocks project?
22:42 <epsy> no wonder
22:42 <epsy> 748. By epsy 1 hour ago
22:42 <epsy> 747. By z-man 35 minutes ago
22:42 <epsy> meh.
22:43 <z-man> What about that?
22:43 <epsy> it's not related
22:44 <z-man> k, /me ignores epsy
22:44 <Flex> K-Yo, i did say we were serious
22:44 <epsy> but still, damn windows messed up my clock and I'm now bugging launchpad
22:44 <Flex> ! :p
22:44 <K-Yo> Flex, sorry?
22:44 <Lucifer> when's the last time the windows build worked?
22:44 <K-Yo> what are you talking about?
22:44 <K-Yo> Flex, the match?
22:44 <Flex> yeah
22:44 <K-Yo> Flex, we were too :P
22:44 <K-Yo> Flex, at least I was
22:44 <Lucifer> anybody who builds arma themselves needs to be in here
22:44 <K-Yo> but we had some hmmmm def trouble at start let's say ;)
22:44 <Flex> i think we were good enough to do 3-0
22:45 <Lucifer> can we put something into configure that requires a person to be currently present in this channel before it can build?
22:45 <K-Yo> Flex, well, depends on what positions we were
22:45 <K-Yo> but the matches we won were quite close indeed
22:45 <Flex> talk to me for another one.. i want to do sav2.0
22:47 <z-man> Lucifer: I haven't tested building in Windows for a while.
22:47 * Lucifer wonders if it was this computer that he installed code::blocks under wine
22:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8740 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. Makefile.manual): Manuel Moos: ChangeLog and fingerprint are now generated from bzr, too.
22:48 <Lucifer> nope, not this one
22:48 <Flex> wrtlprnft was doing that
22:48 <luke-jr> Lucifer: do you want me to write that?
22:48 * Lucifer considers trying to cross-compile arma again
22:48 <Lucifer> luke-jr: write what?
22:48 <Lucifer> oh yeah, heh
22:48 <luke-jr> [15:45:10] <Lucifer> can we put something into configure that requires a person to be currently present in this channel before it can build?
22:49 <Lucifer> it wouldn't work for people building on windows, and it's a guy building on windows that I want in here
22:49 <K-Yo> Flex, sure :) I'd love to do another one
22:49 <luke-jr> :/
22:49 <luke-jr> python script
22:49 <luke-jr> connects to IRC and requires someone in the channel to OK the configure build
22:50 <luke-jr> "Waiting for permission from IRC… login to #Armagetron on chat.freenode.net and say I Approve This Build"
22:51 <epsy> K-Yo, http://www.viedemerde.fr/concours/noel2008/photo/99
22:53 <K-Yo> haha j'temmerde :P
22:53 <epsy> c'est toi en +jeune et en métalloreggae
22:54 <epsy> et en gros, aussi
22:54 <epsy> lol :D
22:54 * Lucifer is trying to avoid getting distracted by trying to cross-compile the trunk
22:54 <Lucifer> luke-jr: any suggestions on how to branch and have svn pick up the changes?
22:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/NealsRacingCircuit-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
22:56 <K-Yo> moi? ^o)
22:56 <K-Yo> c'est pas une meuf?
22:56 <K-Yo> metalloreggae...
22:56 <epsy> peut-être
22:57 <epsy> ben le bonnet
22:57 <K-Yo> ouais j'ai vu
22:57 <K-Yo> je t'avouerai, c'est EXACTEMENT moi
22:57 <K-Yo> mais en fille
22:57 <K-Yo> en plus jeune
22:57 <K-Yo> en metalloraggae
22:57 <epsy> exactement
22:57 <K-Yo> avec un cd de kyo et une pelluche bizarre
22:57 <K-Yo> exactement
22:57 <Lucifer> exactement
22:57 <K-Yo> Proposée le 30/12/2008 - Par ange_metallik - Offert par : ma grand-mère et ma petite soeur (7 ans)
22:58 <K-Yo> hehe
22:58 <z-man> aha!
22:58 <z-man> gcc -option
22:58 <z-man> called somewhere from configure
22:59 <Lucifer> AX_CXXFLAGS_GCC_OPTION()
22:59 <Lucifer> line 342 or so
22:59 <Lucifer> configure.ac
23:00 <z-man> yep.
23:00 <z-man> That was required to get the later call to the same macro inside a conditional to work
23:00 <z-man> I'll just give it an insane argument and see what happens :)
23:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8741 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tVersion.h): epsy: missed to add this file(comes along with r748)
23:01 <Lucifer> is it the conditional that's the problem, or does it just need to be called without arguments to work?
23:02 <epsy> nighty
23:02 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"]
23:02 <z-man> It was the conditional.
23:03 <Lucifer> #m epsy <-- epsy has left this server ("uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!").
23:03 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
23:04 * Lucifer hopes the copy and paste operation preserved the overall broken-ness of epsy's quit message
23:04 <Lucifer> (but even so, it's a silly message to receive from armabot)
23:06 <Lucifer> oh yeah, automake doesn't recognize the shell scripting in configure.ac
23:07 <z-man> Ok, I fixed the ption file on 0.2.8, I think. Testing it now. Then, merge stuff to the trunk and test it again. Fun.
23:09 <luke-jr> Lucifer: most obvious way to me, is to branch on Svn first, then setup the bzr mirroring thing
23:09 <luke-jr> z-man left me with the impression that was a simple task ☺
23:09 <smoothice> #help m
23:09 <@armabot> smoothice: (m <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "later tell $*".
23:10 <Lucifer> well, see, whatever we do in 0.3.1 will get merged back to the trunk anyway
23:10 <z-man> Yeah, but we want to test the pure bzr approach.
23:10 <Lucifer> so the only thhing we'd lose with the pure bzr approach is a direct history oof the 0.3.1 branch in svvn
23:11 * Lucifer caved and is installing mingw
23:11 <luke-jr> "ou b ond in o on do s i upsid -do n"
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23:12 <luke-jr> Lucifer: while svn's primary purpose is to keep the history complete
23:12 * luke-jr ponders epsy's msg further
23:13 <luke-jr> "you ____b___ond__in___o__on__do_s___i__ upside-down"
23:14 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8742 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Added check for silly GCC flag to avoid creation of file named "ption".
23:14 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/polygon/regular/CoolRace-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
23:14 <z-man> ARGH
23:14 <z-man> epsy's version change produces TONS of warnings.
23:14 <luke-jr> argc!
23:15 <z-man> and errors, too.
23:15 * z-man ponders to add a "never, ever, commit before you go to bed" guideline.
23:16 <Lucifer> roll it back?
23:16 * Lucifer was really wanting to branch soon, and is willing to remove epsy's drive-by commit to do it
23:16 <z-man> Not really an option when you want to merge stuff.
23:16 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
23:17 <z-man> Ah, that sort of roll back. No, just don't update.
23:17 <luke-jr> Lucifer: you could branch from the previous rev
23:17 <z-man> The distcheck problem is in check and can be ignored.
23:17 <Lucifer> I'm still sitting on the previous rev
23:17 <Lucifer> can be fixed in the branch, too
23:18 <smoothice> luke-jr: Can you provide me with any php code for me to base this off of? Maybe the code for the XML validation uploader?
23:18 <luke-jr> smoothice: it's all public
23:18 <smoothice> luke-jr: where can I download it?
23:18 <luke-jr> svn co https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/add-resource
23:18 <z-man> Lucifer: No, it can't be fixed in the branch if the fix is done in 0.2.8.
23:18 <smoothice> luke-jr: thanks
23:19 <z-man> We can't merge from svn 0.2.8 to a pure bzr branch.
23:19 <z-man> And as far as bzr is concerned, 0.2.8 and trunk are incompatible.
23:19 <z-man> Of course, we can just duplicate the fix.
23:20 <Lucifer> yeah, that's what I meant, just duplicate the fix :)
23:20 <Lucifer> do I have to create a series for 0.3.1?
23:21 <z-man> Ah, bootstrap already fails.
23:22 <z-man> Should be a breeze.
23:22 <z-man> What's a series?
23:23 <Lucifer> not sure, heh
23:23 <Lucifer> we have trunk and 0.2.8
23:27 <z-man> Well, either add it to trunk or create a 0.3 series.
23:28 <z-man> #m epsy == is not a good operator in shell scripts. And -P is an experimental option in grep and therefore not a good idea :)
23:28 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
23:29 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r974 Added check for silly GCC flag to avoid creation of file nam... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r749 missed to add this file(comes along with r748)... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r973 ChangeLog and fingerprint are now generated from bzr, too....
23:33 <z-man> epsy seems a little too eager to add complication sometimes.
23:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/NealsRacingCircuit-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
23:34 <Lucifer> heh
23:35 <Lucifer> https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
23:36 <z-man> Oooh, I know.
23:36 <z-man> I'll merge the fixes to the trunk with svn
23:36 <z-man> then we'll merge them to 0.3.1 with bzr.
23:36 <Lucifer> heh
23:37 <Lucifer> fixing epsy's stuff, or just the last distcheck fix?
23:37 <z-man> The distcheck stuff. I suppose you'll be waiting to branch for the epsy cleanup.
23:38 <Lucifer> no, I just branched, since I hadn't pulled epsy's mess
23:38 <smoothice> luke-jr: It works... thanks
23:38 <Lucifer> well, let's see if freetype will cross-compile
23:38 <K-Yo> #list later
23:38 <@armabot> K-Yo: notes and tell
23:38 <K-Yo> #later notes epsy
23:39 <@armabot> K-Yo: Sent 35 minutes ago: <Lucifer> <-- epsy has left this server ("uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"). and Sent 10 minutes ago: <z-man> == is not a good operator in shell scripts. And -P is an experimental option in grep and therefore not a good idea :)
23:39 <Lucifer> #later tell K-Yo it's rude to read someone's mail!
23:39 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
23:39 <z-man> Lucifer: well, we can still cherry-pick stuff from the trunk to 0.3.1.
23:41 <K-Yo> #m Lucifer if you want it to be private, don't use #later tell ;)
23:41 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
23:41 <smoothice> #notes smoothice
23:41 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
23:41 <K-Yo> #m Lucifer else, you can try to change armabot so the #later notes is not accessuble
23:41 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
23:41 <K-Yo> #later notes
23:41 <@armabot> K-Yo: I currently have notes waiting for $MrBougo, $randomnick, *mougo*, <<sh1n>>, <sh1n>, cid_06, ct¦kyle, dBd|nano, Durka,, eddie, epsy, epsy:, espy, everyone, G5_Ger, guru, how, I, kyle, later, Lucifer, monkey, Nickserv, noob7_away, operserv, philippec, ratchet, ratchet-, rickyross, royale, sebol, sithy, someone, somody, sunnygirl, unknown, voodoo, wrtlprnft..., wrtlpwnft, xs20, [dlh], and (1 more message)
23:41 <K-Yo> #more
23:41 <@armabot> K-Yo: aa_voodoo.
23:41 <smoothice> #notes $randomnick
23:41 <K-Yo> @later notes Lucifer
23:42 <@armabot> smoothice: Sent 2 years, 29 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <McSpiddles> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 29 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, and 21 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 29 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, and 34 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 27 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, and 37 minutes ago: <Vanhayes> enjoy the spam, Sent 2 years, 26 weeks, 1 day, (1 more message)
23:42 <Lucifer> #m K-Yo privacy shouldn't require special technology, it's a human convention
23:42 <teabot> K-Yo: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
23:42 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
23:42 <smoothice> #list Notes
23:42 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: 'Notes' is not a valid plugin.
23:42 <smoothice> #list Later
23:42 <@armabot> smoothice: notes and tell
23:42 <K-Yo> Lucifer, hmmm, you are right, but there will always be bad people, technologie can help us to protect our private stuff
23:42 <K-Yo> #m Lucifer hmmm, you are right, but there will always be bad people, technologie can help us to protect our private stuff
23:42 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
23:43 <K-Yo> #notes kyle
23:43 <@armabot> K-Yo: Sent 1 year, 19 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, and 15 minutes ago: <eddiefantastic> hello, Sent 1 year, 19 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, and 15 minutes ago: <eddiefantastic> just testing thes later thing, Sent 1 year, 19 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, and 14 minutes ago: <eddiefantastic> if you actually get it ;), and Sent 32 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, and 16 minutes ago: <aa_voodoo> I'm logging at forums. Can you (1 more message)
23:43 <K-Yo> #notes unknown
23:43 <@armabot> K-Yo: Sent 2 years, 26 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, and 39 minutes ago: <Sakireth> this is a test
23:44 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit ["Quitte"]
23:45 <Lucifer> hmmmm, anybody remember how we got arma to link to an opengl library when cross-compiling?
23:47 <z-man> #m epsy tTrueVersion.h isn't built automatically.
23:47 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
23:48 <z-man> #m epsy and even if it is built manually, I still get undefined symbols.
23:48 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
23:48 <z-man> #m epsy in other words, FIX YOUR STUFF.
23:48 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
23:48 <z-man> heh, poor epsy
23:49 <Lucifer> ummm, yeah
23:49 <Lucifer> he made another commit that added that file, because he'd forgotten to include it
23:49 <Lucifer> in his original commit
23:49 <z-man> no, that was tVersion.h
23:49 <z-man> which includes tTrueVersion.h
23:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8743 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/batch/make/version: Fixed some shell scripting errors and removed -P option from greps, they didn't even use any special perl stuff.
23:52 <Lucifer> ah, ok
23:53 <Lucifer> well, I posted my resume on craigslist in the middle of last week and so far have gotten two inquiries from it
23:53 <wrtlprnft> z-man: building the trunk in windows works fine, there's a relatively new snapshot on aabete.
23:53 <wrtlprnft> *beta
23:54 <wrtlprnft> the only thing you need to know is that you can't use python 3.x, it will fail with weird errors and if you fix those some string library will be missing
23:55 <wrtlprnft> the equivalent to STL <sstream>, as far as i could tell
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Log from 2009-01-05:
--- Day changed Mon Jan 05 2009
00:01 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc232133.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
00:15 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft: I'm having difficulties with the windows build
00:15 <PinkTomato> on aabeta
00:16 <PinkTomato> whatever I say prints as ___
00:19 <PinkTomato> it also crashes, a lot
00:20 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: did you see F! Infamous's post trying to build the trunk in windows?
00:24 <PinkTomato> see http://dessert.ath.cx/underscored_arma.png for reference
00:30 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r647 Adding INVALID_COMMAND to ladderlog || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r750 Fixed some shell scripting errors and removed -P option from...
00:32 <smoothice> @more
00:32 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
00:33 <PinkTomato> @more armacommits
00:33 <teabot> PinkTomato: Error: I haven't seen armacommits.
00:34 -!- akira_arma [n=chatzill@77.64.161.27] has joined #armagetron
00:36 <smoothice> @more RSS
00:36 <teabot> smoothice: Error: I haven't seen RSS.
00:36 <smoothice> @seen teabot
00:42 <teabot> armablah: The Geiger Counter « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/the-geiger-counter/>
00:45 <Corn> why did that link playfortress
00:46 <PinkTomato> I assume armablah is an RSS feed, which feeds of Play Fortress RSS too
00:47 <Corn> ah
01:01 <ct|kyle> i did not know teabot announced Ct+sty comments
01:02 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/polygon/regular/Race-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
01:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/polygon/regular/new-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
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02:14 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
02:14 * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle
02:15 * Lucifer throws a rope around the two cuddling freaks so they can't stop
02:15 <BabyBug> wooo soft bondage \o/
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02:30 <GodTodd> man...even #armagetron is fulla pr0n now.
02:31 <Lucifer> #impregnate GodTodd
02:31 * armabot fertilizes GodTodd
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02:44 <Corn> last i heard lucifer has a fetish for pregnant people
03:07 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-103-210.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
03:07 <smoothice> Corn: ...
03:08 <Corn> smoothice: ...
03:08 <Corn> Theres only enough room in this irc for 1 of us.
03:09 <smoothice> awwww
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03:10 <Corn> :D
03:11 <Corn> i guess sageloard took initiative
03:20 <GodTodd> #impregnate Lucifer with luke-jr's sperm.
03:20 * armabot fertilizes Lucifer with luke-jr's sperm.
03:22 <Corn> #armagetron is not a sperm bank mine is not for sale.
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03:51 <Flex> Hehe, my master plan, when those mongorians come next time, I pour this shweet shour por' on their head... shwee shour por' so hot and sticky they stick'a right into the wall and go "ooh ooh"
04:00 <smoothice> #list Alias
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, #ratchet, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armabot, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, c, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, corn, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, (5 more messages)
04:00 <smoothice> #more
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: ddl, del, devhelp, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, emmy, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fart, farton, fastfood, fetch2, fight, finc, fink, flashyy, flerxytyme, fofo, fortune, freeciv, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, hoop, hungary, (4 more messages)
04:00 <smoothice> #ball
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ball pit” at the moment, sorry.
04:00 <smoothice> #hoop
04:00 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “hoop” at the moment, sorry.
04:01 <smoothice> #more
04:01 <@armabot> smoothice: hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, kyle, kyo, laddle10, lags, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lies, lock, log, log, logs, ls, lukejrworks, m, mail, makeop, man, mcalc, mfaq, ming, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, myip, n00b, nano, new, night, no, noob, null, obsolete, onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, (3 more messages)
04:01 <smoothice> #more
04:01 <@armabot> smoothice: path, path2, peek, phail, pingme, pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, praise, ptfort, pwn, q, quot, r, raaaaaaape, randomnick, rape, ratchet, ratchet--, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, removeop, res, resources, ring, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, roulotte, rules, râ€oulette, say, sd, sd v spacelab, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, servers, (2 more messages)
04:01 <smoothice> #sd
04:01 <@armabot> smoothice: Usage: #serverdetails [-v] {name}
04:01 <smoothice> #help sd
04:01 <@armabot> smoothice: (sd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
04:02 <smoothice> #sd NEALS
04:02 <@armabot> smoothice: NEALS TEST SERVER: Players (1/10): canada
04:02 <smoothice> #sd racing ||
04:02 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “racing ||” at the moment, sorry.
04:02 <smoothice> #sd Sumo
04:02 <@armabot> smoothice: Wild West =Sumo=: Players (11/14): .:] JJBean, .dBd|Pathetique, AlEs§a, C$ $oup, CtxWoned, halcyon, Swift, wHaTuP, zac, ~*OblivionIk*~, ~*Sasha*~
04:07 <smoothice> #sd Delicious Desserts
04:07 <@armabot> smoothice: {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber: Players (7/10): !CB! XZombie, a$!D, Dogs Unleashed, I<3 Katrina, RODSUR7, waka CONGETO, {MR}VOLCANO
04:08 <smoothice> #armaservers
04:08 <@armabot> smoothice: This data is 32 seconds old; -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (12/12), Wild West =Sumo= (10/14), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (7/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (7/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (5/14), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber < (3/12), -= QuAnTuM PeRfoRmAnCe =- [Loose DF] [Hosted by Reaper] (3/16), (1 more message)
04:08 -!- Concord [n=Concord@pool-72-93-80-204.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
04:09 <Concord> @lastseen ghableska
04:09 <teabot> Concord: timed out
04:09 <Concord> @lastseen rain
04:09 <teabot> Concord: .g Rain has last been seen on Wild West =Sumo= 3 hours 31 minutes ago.
04:09 <Concord> pff
04:09 <Concord> @lastseen 2020
04:09 <Concord> @lastseen 2o2o
04:09 <teabot> Concord: timed out
04:10 <smoothice> #seen 2020
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: I have not seen 2020.
04:10 <teabot> Concord: timed out
04:10 <smoothice> #seen 2o2o
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: I have not seen 2o2o.
04:10 <Concord> #seen rain
04:10 <@armabot> Concord: rain was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 39 weeks, 4 days, 15 hours, 41 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <rain> ty yojimbo
04:10 <smoothice> #seen PinkTomato
04:10 <Concord> #seen ghableska
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: PinkTomato was last seen in #armagetron 3 hours, 23 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <PinkTomato> I assume armablah is an RSS feed, which feeds of Play Fortress RSS too
04:10 <@armabot> Concord: ghableska was last seen in #armagetron 28 weeks, 6 days, 11 hours, 44 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <ghableska> oh hi monkey
04:10 <Concord> #seen 2020
04:10 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen 2020.
04:11 <smoothice> #seen ljrbot
04:11 <@armabot> smoothice: ljrbot was last seen in #armagetron 1 day, 7 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "dns" is not a valid command.
04:14 <Corn> #seen one
04:14 <@armabot> Corn: I have not seen one.
04:14 <Corn> one = 2020
04:19 <Corn> "armabot> smoothice: hyphy" say whut
04:19 <Corn> hyphy plays lol
04:20 <smoothice> armabot > smoothice: ???
04:20 <smoothice> armabot: say hi corn
04:20 <@armabot> hi corn
04:20 <smoothice> #say wassup?
04:21 <@armabot> wassup?
04:21 <smoothice> #say $host
04:21 <@armabot> unaffiliated/smoothice
04:22 <smoothice> #say now
04:22 <smoothice> #say today
04:22 <@armabot> now
04:22 <@armabot> today
04:22 <smoothice> #say $now
04:22 <@armabot> Mon Jan 5 04:22:12 2009
04:22 <smoothice> #say $today
04:22 <@armabot> 05 Jan 2009
04:24 <smoothice> Lucifer: I found a bug in latest 0.2.8 alpha
04:24 <Corn> i have a 3 minute lag so its hard to talk to me... my messages take 3 minutes to get to you as me and babybug found out the hard way
04:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/slyshot/quimica-3.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
04:28 <Corn> "<smoothice>: Lucifer: I found a bug in latest 0.2.8 alpha" whut
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04:45 <smoothice> Corn: I just reported a bug in the 0.2.8 branch to Launchpad
04:48 <smoothice> #later tell Corn I just reported a bug in the 0.2.8 branch to Launchpad
04:48 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
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04:54 <@armabot> lpbugs: [313943] login menu username field is always lowercase
05:05 <luke-jr> sounds like a feature:
05:06 <luke-jr> "Armagetron now annoys people with screwed up name cases!'
05:07 <ct|kyle> it is because it uses log name not real name
05:07 <luke-jr> :þ
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05:08 <luke-jr> pushing to -shared
05:08 <luke-jr> err
05:08 <luke-jr> wrong chan
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06:39 <teabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r648 Adding ADMIN_COMMAND to LadderLog
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07:50 <Concord> hhi
07:50 <Concord> late night?
07:50 <Concord> early morning?
07:57 <epsy> hi
07:57 <epsy> just morning
07:57 <Concord> 2:00 am here
08:00 <epsy> 8:00
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11:06 <z-man> #m epsy Forgot to tell you: I'm on a SVN checkout.
11:06 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
11:07 * z-man doesn't want to drive the poor guy completely mad :)
11:28 <teabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/fortress-vs-sumo/> || Tron for Peace <http://www.gregniemeyer.com/?p=45> || The Innovation Lover » GNU/Linux gamers, Cheers ! <http://www.sarathlakshman.info/2007/12/24/gnulinux-gamers-cheers/>
11:31 <teabot> armablah: Armagetron Advanced <http://www.find-freebies.org/armagetron-advanced/> || Armagetron <http://free.macgames.jp/4230/armagetron/> || Viewing Pleasure <http://the-desert-is-coming.blogspot.com/2008/12/viewing-pleasure.html>
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11:46 <wrtlprnft> PinkTomato: interesting… mine works ok
11:46 <wrtlprnft> *it works ok on my system, that's what i wanted to say
11:46 <PinkTomato> ah, my windows is a mess of an intall anyway
11:47 <PinkTomato> the only thing at the moment that I can think of that might cause it is my non-unicode is set to Japanese.
11:47 <PinkTomato> That usually causes ?? and all sorts
11:48 <wrtlprnft> that might be a reason
11:49 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: there's a cross-compiling thread, but i built it directly from windows
11:49 <PinkTomato> I'll look in it at somepoint, let you know if I find anything :)
11:52 <wrtlprnft> or try to build it yourself, it's not all that hard
11:52 <wrtlprnft> install three programs, copy and paste the svn path, change one text file, all the rest is point&click :-)
11:53 <wrtlprnft> when the project files are up to date, anyways, but they should be right now
11:53 <Lucifer> #ping
11:53 <@armabot> pong
11:54 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft: whenever i have attempted windows build, something always goes wrong ;), but sounds like compiling trunk has gotten much easier recently
11:54 <Lucifer> luke-jr: that is a feature, actually, and it's been in 0.2.8 since the first release :)
11:55 <wrtlprnft> download a recent build of codeblocks and tortoisesvn
11:55 <wrtlprnft> download python 2.6.x
11:55 <wrtlprnft> install all that crap
11:56 <wrtlprnft> right click on the background of some folder, whereever you want to have your install, preferably without spaces in it
11:56 <wrtlprnft> oh, download the codeblocks build with mingw
11:57 <wrtlprnft> anyways, do SVN checkout after right clicking
11:57 <PinkTomato> Right, trying now, and I'll check the python ver, back soon :)
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12:01 <wrtlprnft> copy and paste https://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad
12:03 <PinkTomato> I have python 2.5, installing 2.6
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12:09 <wrtlprnft> 2.5 would have been sufficient
12:09 <wrtlprnft> as long as it's not 3.x
12:10 <PinkTomato> oh :), do I need winlibs?
12:10 <wrtlprnft> it's included in svn
12:10 <PinkTomato> is the README in the win32 folder in date?
12:12 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it's fine
12:19 <PinkTomato> do I need to ./configure? Compile error regarding 'bool isblank(int)'
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12:21 <wrtlprnft> err, comment out that line
12:21 <wrtlprnft> there is no configure script
12:22 <PinkTomato> tTrueVersion.h No such file or Directory
12:36 <wrtlprnft> heh, great, epsy broke it
12:37 <PinkTomato> woops
12:37 <PinkTomato> should I revert?
12:37 <wrtlprnft> if you feel like it, revert to r8697
12:39 <PinkTomato> compiling :)
12:42 <Lucifer> Yeah, epsy broke it, heh
12:42 <Lucifer> you should get the 0.3.1 branch from bzr
12:43 <Lucifer> #alias add 0.3.1 echo bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
12:43 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
12:43 <Lucifer> #0.3.1
12:43 <@armabot> bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
12:44 <PinkTomato> I'ld have to find a windows bzr program ;)
12:44 <z-man> let's gangrape epsy when he comes back :)
12:45 <PinkTomato> still the same behaviour in my just compiled r8697
12:46 <PinkTomato> Thanks wrtlprnft though :), the compile was rather easy after all :D
12:47 <wrtlprnft> yw
12:49 <Lucifer> bzr is available for windows, isn't it? You just need python for it, after all....
12:49 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: it is :), but its not python by the looks of things
12:50 <Lucifer> dave@fiona:~$ cat /usr/bin/bzr
12:50 <Lucifer> #!/usr/bin/python
12:50 <Lucifer> # Copyright (C) 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Canonical Ltd
12:50 <Lucifer> #
12:50 <PinkTomato> I mean the win version ;)
12:51 <z-man> Another new policy : NO FANCY REFORMATS WHILE THERE'S ACTIVE MERGES.
12:51 <wrtlprnft> hehe
12:51 <z-man> AUTHORS has entered merge hell.
12:51 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr, eh?
12:51 <z-man> YES
12:51 <wrtlprnft> i was wondering about that when i read the commit message…
12:52 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: it says its stand alone, i didn't think a python application could be stand alone?
12:52 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: py2exe
12:52 <PinkTomato> oh I see :)
12:52 <Lucifer> it basically bundles a python interpreter with the script to make it a standalone app
12:52 <Lucifer> but it's still python :)
12:52 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
12:54 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
12:54 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
12:54 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: win32 Readme.txt is unreadable in windows
12:54 <PinkTomato> Unix Line Breaks and stupid notepad
12:54 <PinkTomato> edit.com could read unix line breaks....
12:54 <wrtlprnft> use wordpad
12:54 <Lucifer> well, I'm working in 0.3.1 branch now, so even if I fix it, you won't see it ;)
12:55 <wrtlprnft> for some reason it can do unix line breaks
12:55 <Lucifer> yeah, wordpad is weird that way
12:55 <wrtlprnft> it's gonna be merged, right?
12:55 <Lucifer> also, you might consider programmer's notepad
12:55 <Lucifer> or the one that's on my thumb drive
12:55 * Lucifer tries to remember which one it is
12:55 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I usually use notepad++
12:56 <Lucifer> ah, that's what's on my thumb drive
12:56 <PinkTomato> I have to remeber right click open with notepad++ though, I should make it default actually
12:56 <Lucifer> courtesy of portableapps.com
12:56 <Lucifer> no, really, we should fix the line endings in that file
12:56 <PinkTomato> ;), only thing is that version defaults without a menubar and i can't find anything in it :)
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8744 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8719 to 8743:
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8742 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-04 23:13:49 +0100 (Sun, 04 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Added check for silly GCC flag to avoid creation of file named "ption".
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8740 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-04 22:47:41 +0100 (Sun, 04 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
12:58 <wrtlprnft> is that a real gcc flag?
12:58 <z-man> No, of course not.
12:58 <Lucifer> #0.3.1
12:58 <@armabot> bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
12:59 <Lucifer> hmmm, is armabot going to pick up 0.3.1 commit messages?
12:59 <z-man> No, armabot only cares about svn.
13:00 <Lucifer> ah, so if we don't mirror 0.3.1's branch to svn, armabot won't get the commit messages
13:00 <wrtlprnft> cia won't get them
13:00 <wrtlprnft> we could use the rss plugin
13:00 <Lucifer> will it monitor for changes, or would we have to ask it for changes?
13:01 <Lucifer> #help rss
13:01 <@armabot> Lucifer: (rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
13:01 <Lucifer> #list rss
13:01 <@armabot> Lucifer: add, announce, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, and rss
13:01 <wrtlprnft> there's an autoreport feature, too
13:01 <wrtlprnft> #help rss add
13:01 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (rss add <name> <url>) -- Adds a command to this plugin that will look up the RSS feed at the given URL.
13:01 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://feeds.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1/branch.atom
13:01 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Revision 748 || Revision 747 || Revision 746 || Revision 745 || Revision 744 || Revision 743 || Revision 742 || Revision 741 || Revision 740 || Revision 739 || Revision 738 || Revision 737 || Revision 736 || Revision 735 || Revision 734 || Revision 733 || Revision 732 || Revision 731 || Revision 730 || Revision 729 || Revision 728 || Revision 727 || Revision 726 || Revision 725 || (1 more message)
13:02 <wrtlprnft> ah, that was the problem
13:02 <Lucifer> heh, it's borderline useless
13:02 <PinkTomato> its more almost useful
13:03 <PinkTomato> handy to know when a new revision is out
13:03 <Lucifer> yeah, but we want to see the log entry that goes with the revision
13:03 <PinkTomato> the information is in the RSS though?
13:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah
13:04 <wrtlprnft> but as the content, not the title
13:04 <PinkTomato> ah, isn't that what it should be?
13:05 <wrtlprnft> well, cia rss messages contain a short version of the changelog
13:05 * Lucifer doesn't believe there's no way to configure the rss plugin to show part of the content too
13:05 <Lucifer> #list rss
13:05 <@armabot> Lucifer: add, announce, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, and rss
13:06 <wrtlprnft> one could proxy the rss feed and change it on the way
13:06 <Lucifer> #help config
13:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: (config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
13:06 <Lucifer> #list config
13:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: channel, config, default, export, help, list, reload, and search
13:06 <Lucifer> #config search rss
13:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss, supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss.locked, supybot.plugins.RSS, supybot.plugins.RSS.public, supybot.plugins.RSS.bold, supybot.plugins.RSS.headlineSeparator, supybot.plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce.showLinks, supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod, (1 more message)
13:06 <Lucifer> #more
13:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds, supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds.reddit, supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds.ftsfeedback, supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds.lpbugs, supybot.plugins.RSS.feeds.armawiki, and supybot.plugins.RSS.showLinks
13:06 <PinkTomato> couldn't you add it to the plugin?
13:06 <Lucifer> ok, maybe there isn't a way to do it, heh
13:07 <wrtlprnft> it's further complicated that the content of those messages contains html
13:07 <Lucifer> sure, it shouldn't be that hard to add it to the plugin, but then it has to be installed, and we'd have to maintain our own version, etc
13:08 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft is right, it's probably easier to just throw together a little php script to do the transformation
13:08 <PinkTomato> oh yeah, :). Ah, of course
13:08 <wrtlprnft> hmm… let's see…
13:09 <wrtlprnft> probably python… minidom rocks
13:09 <Lucifer> minidom rocks until you want it to preserve whitespace :)
13:10 <Lucifer> well, it looks like buildbot can still work with the bzr changeover, but it'd have to monitor svn and then checkout from bzr
13:10 * Lucifer supposes it's not that big a deal to just let buildbot work with svn completely, only it won't pick up the 0.3.1 release branch, which means it won't pick up 0.3.2 or 0.3.3 etc.
13:11 <wrtlprnft> alternatively, can one tell launchpad to send commit messages to cia?
13:11 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: 0.3.1 compiles on windows, has no 404 resource. Still has __ bug that no one else can reproduce ;).
13:12 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: I think the 404 problem is related to the dist built, it doesn't happen to a build from a checkout
13:12 <Lucifer> maybe I should actually investigate that instead of playing with buildbot
13:12 <Lucifer> https://launchpad.net/bzr-cia
13:13 * PinkTomato wondered why you were talking about the CIA
13:13 <Lucifer> it kindof looks like we'd all have to install that plugin for it to work
13:17 <wrtlprnft> yeah…
13:17 <Lucifer> wait, what if z-man installed it on the bzr-svn bot?
13:17 <Lucifer> er, nvm, I guess that gets us nowhere anyway, heh
13:18 <Lucifer> hey, if I setup my computer to work as a network bridge, do i need to use a crossover cable to plug a device into my ethernet card?
13:24 <Lucifer> hmmm, I want to make a bzr branch for the buildbot config files
13:24 * Lucifer tries to remember where they are in svn
13:26 <Lucifer> aha, it's /support/buildbot
13:27 <Lucifer> z-man: what do I have to do to take a directory out of the svn repo, /support/buildbot, and make a bzr branch that syncs with svn?
13:27 <z-man> you need to move it to tools/buildbot/trunk
13:27 <Lucifer> svn mv?
13:28 <z-man> yep
13:28 <Lucifer> bzr-svn will pick it up automatically then?
13:28 <z-man> no, I need to add the path to a config file.
13:29 <Lucifer> and I assume I have to create a branch named tools-buildbot-trunk to go with it and put it on launchpad?
13:29 <z-man> no, that'll happen automagically.
13:29 <Lucifer> ok, I'll do that
13:29 <Lucifer> if I can remember how to use svn :)
13:31 <Lucifer> grr, I forgot my sourceforge subversion password
13:32 <z-man> shall I do it?
13:35 <@armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r8745 /tools/buildbot/:
13:36 <Lucifer> I'm getting there, heh
13:37 <Lucifer> turned out my sourceforge password had expired, that was the problem
13:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: davidfancella * r8746 / (support/buildbot/ tools/buildbot/trunk/): Moving buildbot config files so we can have a bzr branch for them.
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13:38 <Lucifer> ok, it's ready now :)
13:49 <teabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r748 Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r751 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8719 to 8743:...
13:49 <PinkTomato> \o/
14:00 <Lucifer> er, how does teabot pick up the 0.3.1 branch?
14:01 <PinkTomato> was that not the plan?
14:01 <PinkTomato> oh wait, you wanted armabot?
14:02 <Lucifer> well, yeah, but I'm wondering why teabot can do it and not armabot
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14:05 <Lucifer> I don't get a 404 error on my installed autopackage
14:06 <Lucifer> aha, it fails on the .dtd download
14:07 <PinkTomato> I believe that is usually a included file?
14:08 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py
14:08 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || 0.3.1 z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out of it. || 0.3.1 (6 more messages)
14:09 <wrtlprnft> semi-useful
14:09 <wrtlprnft> #config search RSS
14:09 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss, supybot.plugins.Alias.aliases.davestupidwebsite"rss.locked, supybot.plugins.RSS, supybot.plugins.RSS.public, supybot.plugins.RSS.bold, supybot.plugins.RSS.headlineSeparator, supybot.plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce, supybot.plugins.RSS.announce.showLinks, supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod, (1 more message)
14:09 <wrtlprnft> #rss add 0.3.1 http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py
14:09 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:09 <z-man> Lucifer: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/tools-buildbot-trunk-work
14:09 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.announce
14:09 <Lucifer> thanks
14:09 <@armabot> wrtlprnft:
14:10 <wrtlprnft> #help rss annpunce
14:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "rss annpunce".
14:10 <wrtlprnft> #help rss announce
14:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (rss announce [<channel>] [--remove] [<name|url> ...]) -- Adds the list of <name|url> to the current list of announced feeds in the channel given. Valid feeds include the names of registered feeds as well as URLs for a RSS feeds. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. If no arguments are specified, replies with the current list of feeds to (1 more message)
14:10 <wrtlprnft> #rss announce #armagetron 0.3.1
14:10 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:11 <Lucifer> .list rss
14:11 <wrtlprnft> now someone make a commit
14:11 <PinkTomato> makedist is unix spaces i think too
14:11 <PinkTomato> if you need ideas ;)
14:11 <Lucifer> heh, if you've got a suggestion on how to fix the problem where resource.dtd isn't included in the distribution, I can fix it and commit it :)
14:11 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod
14:11 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 600
14:12 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:12 <wrtlprnft> 5 minutes on average till the message is shown…
14:12 <wrtlprnft> #config supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod 300
14:12 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
14:12 <wrtlprnft> make that 2.5
14:13 <Lucifer> ok, I just committed PinkTomato (hi there!) 's requested fix
14:14 <PinkTomato> ty :)
14:17 <wrtlprnft> he didn't do it for you, just for me!
14:17 <wrtlprnft> ty Lucifer
14:17 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
14:17 <Lucifer> you're both welcome :)
14:19 <wrtlprnft> don't disappoint me armabot
14:20 <wrtlprnft> INFO 2009-01-05T14:19:05 Checking for announcements at <http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py>
14:20 <wrtlprnft> err, that commit isn't in the rss feed
14:20 <Lucifer> er, what?
14:21 <Lucifer> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1/revision/749
14:21 <Lucifer> er, yeah it is
14:21 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://feeds.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1/branch.atom
14:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Revision 749 || Revision 748 || Revision 747 || Revision 746 || Revision 745 || Revision 744 || Revision 743 || Revision 742 || Revision 741 || Revision 740 || Revision 739 || Revision 738 || Revision 737 || Revision 736 || Revision 735 || Revision 734 || Revision 733 || Revision 732 || Revision 731 || Revision 730 || Revision 729 || Revision 728 || Revision 727 || Revision 726 || (1 more message)
14:22 <PinkTomato> It changed after 20 minutes past I think
14:22 <wrtlprnft> wtf
14:22 <wrtlprnft> #0.3.1
14:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: The command "0.3.1" is available in the Alias and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "0.3.1".
14:22 <wrtlprnft> #rss 0.3.1
14:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || 0.3.1 z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out of it. || 0.3.1 (6 more messages)
14:22 <wrtlprnft> #rss 0.3.1?blah
14:22 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: '0.3.1?blah' is not a valid url.
14:22 <PinkTomato> is that the cached version?
14:22 <wrtlprnft> #rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py?123
14:23 <Lucifer> I see it in my web browser when I go to your rss script
14:23 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r749: Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || 0.3.1 z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to (6 more messages)
14:23 <PinkTomato> I didn't see it at first
14:23 <Lucifer> #rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py
14:23 <@armabot> Lucifer: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || 0.3.1 z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out of it. || 0.3.1 Daniel (6 more messages)
14:23 <PinkTomato> but it appeared shortly after armabot was supposed to go off I think,
14:23 <PinkTomato> unless that was a local cached copy
14:23 <Lucifer> maybe there's a caching thing going on
14:24 <wrtlprnft> it's supposed to consider cached rss feeds to be outdated after 5 mins
14:24 <@armabot> 0.3.1: 0.3.1 dave@davefancella.com r749: Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too
14:24 <PinkTomato> that works then ?
14:24 <wrtlprnft> just took some time
14:25 <wrtlprnft> just a bit redundant it seems
14:25 <wrtlprnft> the next one should be without the extra 0.3.1
14:25 <PinkTomato> from teabot?
14:25 <wrtlprnft> let's see how well large commit messages are handled
14:26 <wrtlprnft> CIA shortens them quite well
14:26 <wrtlprnft> plus it shows which files have changed, i don't even have that info
14:29 <@armabot> 0.3.1: dave@davefancella.com r749: Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too || dave@davefancella.com r748: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings || z-man r747: Removed one roadblock in "make distcheck", which also broke the source distribution: mac files got moved and dist-hook-scm wasn't updated. || dave@davefancella.com r746: Miscellaneous fixes to get it building again, and to get an autopackage to build out
14:35 <Lucifer> hmmm, so it's copying resource.dtd, but it's not renaming it
14:36 <Lucifer> er, nvm, it's doing that
14:38 <Lucifer> aha! figured it out, I think
14:42 <Lucifer> @list rss
14:42 <teabot> Lucifer: add, announce, arma0.2.8, armaannounce, armablah, armabugs, armacommits, armaevents, armatrunk, info, nbcommits, nbcommitsandtickets, nbtickets, neverforum, remove, rss, tstnews, vectronbeta2, vectroncommits, xclanaarepo, xclansitecommits, zthraaannounce, zthraabugs, and zthraacommits
14:42 <Lucifer> #list armacommits
14:42 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: 'armacommits' is not a valid plugin.
14:42 <Lucifer> #help armacommits
14:42 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: There is no command "armacommits".
14:43 <Lucifer> duh
14:43 <Lucifer> @help armacommits
14:43 <teabot> Lucifer: (armacommits [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armacommits at the RSS feed <http://feeds.launchpad.net/armagetronad/revisions.atom>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
14:44 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: there's how teabot gets it
14:44 <Lucifer> who owns teabot, anyway?
14:44 <PinkTomato> I thought it was epsy, but I could be wrong
14:45 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: I think I found the 404 problem and fixed it, will be testing a new autopackage shortly
14:45 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: OK, I'll be ready to test when done :)
14:46 <Lucifer> heh, have to build the package first, since it's clearly a packaging problem (problem doesn't happen in a regular sandbox build)
14:47 <PinkTomato> ah, so its that make dist thing that takes forever?
14:47 <Lucifer> no, different thing
14:47 <Lucifer> the make dist thing that takes forever is make distcheck, and it just checks the source tarball
14:47 <PinkTomato> oh right :)
14:47 <Lucifer> this is, if you ever look at tools-build-trunk, that's where our packaging automation stuff is
14:48 * Lucifer wonders if rpmtools are available for ubuntu
14:48 * Lucifer wonders if we should drop rpm as our other generic linux build and switch to .deb
14:48 <PinkTomato> Do you mean something like alien?
14:48 <Lucifer> no
14:48 <Lucifer> something to build rpms
14:48 <PinkTomato> oh the other way round :)
14:49 <PinkTomato> isn't .deb more common now anyway?
14:49 <teabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r749 Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too || [tools-buildbot-trunk-work] r1 Moving buildbot config files so we can have a bzr branch for...
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14:55 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that's why I was thinking we might consider switching out .rpm for .deb
14:55 <Lucifer> at the time z-man used .rpm for generic linux building (which predates the armagetron advanced fork, even), .rpm was ubiquitous
14:56 <Lucifer> we switched to autopackage for generic linux building for 0.2.8, but keep building generic rpms because we have the capability
14:56 <Lucifer> or rather, z-man has the capability (or had, he was building in gentoo back then, and I think he finally switched to kubuntu, but we haven't released since before then)
14:56 <Lucifer> so we may not have the capability anymore
14:56 * Lucifer hopes to find out soon ;)
14:57 <teabot> armablah: Registration is now open « Blog Archive « TST » Team Sumo Tournament <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/registration-is-now-open/>
14:59 <PinkTomato> :)
15:02 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18350&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 <--- know anything about this?
15:02 <Lucifer> I saw a branch for it, I think
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15:14 <Lucifer> aha, it didn't work because it used an old tarball, heh
15:14 <Lucifer> duh
15:20 <Lucifer> z-man: have you tried to build an rpm since you left gentoo?
15:26 <Lucifer> #0.3.1
15:26 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: The command "0.3.1" is available in the Alias and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "0.3.1".
15:26 <Lucifer> #alias 0.3.1
15:26 <@armabot> bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
15:27 <Lucifer> #alias remove 0.3.1
15:27 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
15:27 <Lucifer> #alias add bzr0.3.1 echo bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
15:27 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
15:30 <K-Yo> #help bzr
15:30 <@armabot> K-Yo: (bzr <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) (bzr >= 1.4)".
15:39 <Lucifer> #alias add bzr echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) [bar0.3.1] (bzr >= 1.4)
15:39 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
15:39 <Lucifer> #bzr
15:39 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) [bar0.3.1] (bzr >= 1.4)
15:39 <Lucifer> #alias add bzr echo bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) [bzr0.3.1] (bzr >= 1.4)
15:40 <@armabot> The operation succeeded.
15:40 <Lucifer> #bzr
15:40 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
15:40 <Lucifer> oh good, that takes care of that
15:40 <Lucifer> camview has lots of conflicts, and I'm nto going to resolve them
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15:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/Race/WindingRace-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
16:10 <PinkTomato> damn it, screwed up my FTGL
16:10 <Lucifer> don't do that
16:10 <PinkTomato> hehe
16:10 <Lucifer> what did you do?
16:10 <PinkTomato> I installed the new one, see what BabyBug was on about
16:10 <PinkTomato> forgot about it
16:10 <Lucifer> now arma segfaults for you too?
16:11 <PinkTomato> says it can't find ftgl-o
16:11 <PinkTomato> or something
16:11 <PinkTomato> so I installed the ubuntu copy, and now it won't compile either
16:11 <BabyBug> Lucifer, It won't compile now. configure makes sure you're not running the version of FTGL that wont segfault
16:11 <BabyBug> will segfault*
16:12 <Lucifer> really? in the trunk?
16:12 * Lucifer didn't see that, but he's not running a version that segfaults anyway
16:12 <BabyBug> yup
16:12 <Lucifer> so you'll need to install an older version of ftgl and hope configure finds it
16:12 * BabyBug can't install an older version *growl*
16:12 * Lucifer wants to statically link ftgl in the autopackage
16:13 <BabyBug> hopefully tomato can \o/
16:13 <PinkTomato> what about the one in ubuntu?
16:13 <Lucifer> hey BabyBug (hi there!) , try the autopackage again
16:13 <Lucifer> er, nvm
16:13 <PinkTomato> repository, ubuntu repository is always old.
16:13 <BabyBug> Lucifer, the .package file works fine though, even with the stupid ftgl version
16:13 <Lucifer> it's possible the .package file has ftgl statically linked and I just don't know it
16:13 <Lucifer> in which case, it's using ftgl code from my computer, which has a working ftgl version
16:13 <BabyBug> lol
16:14 * Lucifer is going to try to run a windows build with wine
16:14 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: is there a way to unmake a file?
16:14 <Lucifer> rm
16:14 <Lucifer> :)
16:14 <BabyBug> make clean gets rid of everything?
16:15 <PinkTomato> great, I'll re make install ftgl and see where it stuffs everything
16:15 <Lucifer> use checkinstall
16:15 <Lucifer> I just found out about it ;)
16:15 <BabyBug> isn't that the easy way to make debs?
16:15 <Lucifer> make uninstall should work, if the uninstall target exists in ftgl
16:16 <Lucifer> BabyBug: supposedly it makes them from a run of "make install"
16:16 <Lucifer> ok, fixed the 404 error
16:18 <Lucifer> not happy with the fix, though, because maps are inconsistent from cockpits for some reason
16:18 * Lucifer is installing codeblocks
16:20 * BabyBug is playing wow =x
16:21 * PinkTomato thinks make uninstall and apt-get ftgl-dev has worked :)
16:21 <PinkTomato> so thanks :)
16:21 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/Race/Winding-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
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16:25 <Lucifer> hmmmm, does wine support .msi files?
16:26 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I got camview working in 0.3.1
16:27 <PinkTomato> I merged the wrong way though
16:27 <PinkTomato> bzr merge -r688..689 ../trunk-armagetronad-camview/
16:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yes it does
16:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you should have an msiexec command?
16:28 <BabyBug> msiexec file.msi
16:30 <PinkTomato> that camview is awesome ;)
16:35 <Lucifer> aha, thanks BabyBug (hi there!)
16:35 <BabyBug> yw
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16:36 <Lucifer> I think I'm going to want a separate copy of the branch to screw with windows building
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16:49 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/Maze/diamondofdeath-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
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16:54 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: have you found the thread you were after?
16:54 <Lucifer> no, and I'm watching star trek now :)
16:55 <PinkTomato> http://forums.armagetronad.net/search.php?search_author=spang
16:55 <PinkTomato> not any of those is it?
16:55 <PinkTomato> I don't really know what your looking for, so :D
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17:25 <Concord> #seen rain
17:25 <@armabot> Concord: rain was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 39 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 56 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <rain> ty yojimbo
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17:26 <Concord> wb
17:26 <Concord> #tronic_development
17:28 <Concord> INVITE Corn #tronic_development
17:28 <Concord> wups
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17:34 <Lucifer> #m PinkTomato thanks, I was afraid what I was looking for was in 0.3.1 laundry list, and it was. Thanks for finding it :)
17:34 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
17:39 <MaZuffeR> #seen vinavil
17:39 <@armabot> MaZuffeR: vinavil was last seen in #armagetron 34 weeks, 1 day, 19 hours, 19 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <vinavil> it seems there is something interesting in x sumo
17:39 <MaZuffeR> Concord, rain used vinavil as his nick here because rain was already taken
17:40 <Concord> i forgot that
17:49 <Corn> how many weeks are in a year?
17:49 <Concord> 52
17:49 <Concord> 34/52
17:50 <Corn> k
17:57 <Lucifer> #bzr
17:57 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
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18:01 <PinkTomato> armabot: I have a message?
18:01 <PinkTomato> yw lucifer :)
18:02 <Lucifer> why does bzr take so long to download a branch? :(
18:04 <PinkTomato> Only seems slow to me if your waiting for something :). What did you mean by I was afarid it was in the laundary list
18:05 <Lucifer> the 0.3.1 laundry list thread is really long, and really painful to read because it's so long
18:05 <Lucifer> looking for anything in there is like looking for a needle in a haystack
18:07 <PinkTomato> ah, I see :)
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18:12 <Concord> ello
18:12 <epsy> hi
18:14 <Lucifer> er, why don't our batch files run under wine?
18:18 <PinkTomato> is it wineconsole?
18:18 <Lucifer> I think so
18:18 <Lucifer> wine cmd
18:19 <Lucifer> it segfaults when it's trying to check python
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18:25 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: ?
18:25 <luke-jr> z-man: wouldn't AUTHORS be a one-or-the-other choice? O.o
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18:38 <Lucifer> grrrrrrrrr
18:38 * Lucifer doesn't remember how to get cb_console_runner to build arma from wine
18:39 * BabyBug zaps the remememememory into Lucifer's head
18:41 <Lucifer> oh, heh, I'm trying to do it wrong, that's the problem
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19:06 <epsy> z-man, ok, that should be fixed, sorry for the inconveniences
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19:07 <epsy> it should have proper default values in case they aren't available otherwise
19:08 <epsy> g++: unrecognized option '-nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway'
19:08 <epsy> lol??
19:08 <z-man> heh, that's not an error, is it?
19:08 <epsy> no, just a warning
19:09 <z-man> then it's fine :)
19:09 <epsy> and I think I spotted GCC thinking it was compiling C
19:09 <epsy> it shows on each line
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19:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8747 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): epsy: fixed build
19:13 <Lucifer> did you test it?
19:14 <epsy> the build, yes..now z-numbers seem broken
19:14 <Lucifer> z-numbers?
19:14 <z-man> that could be one of the things I commited blindly.
19:14 <Lucifer> er, z-man does blind commits?
19:15 <z-man> semi-blind.
19:15 <Lucifer> z-man: WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH Z-MAN????
19:15 <z-man> They fixed the problem I could see.
19:15 <z-man> Of course, they ran into different problems later, but I left them to epsy :)
19:15 <Lucifer> and here I thought I was being good by testing camview before blindly putting it in the trunk
19:16 <z-man> epsy: maybe all the version variables should be moved to tVersion.cpp as non-statics and declared extern in tVersion.h.
19:16 <Lucifer> hey, know of any other hacks people have done to the trunk that we haven't looked at?
19:17 <z-man> That prevents warnings about unused variables and is better anyway, because I don't think what you're currently doing actually works :)
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19:18 <epsy> z-man, that's what I just did, moving them to .cpp..that's saner for inclusion anyway
19:18 <Lucifer> heh, will that fix the problems with ruby?
19:18 <epsy> I'll change them to extern, that should be better..I have each 10× times considering nm
19:19 <z-man> epsy: no, you just move their values into the cpp, they're still declared and defined in the .h.
19:19 <Lucifer> hmmmm, anybody else getting a segfault in the 0.3.1 branch?
19:19 <epsy> yeah
19:19 <Lucifer> oh yeah
19:19 <epsy> (to z-man)
19:19 <Lucifer> z-man: when you built the 0.3.0 autopackage, what did you do about ftgl?
19:19 <Lucifer> does that get linked statically already?
19:19 <z-man> Compile it with CXX=apg++ into /usr/local, I think.
19:20 <z-man> yes, I probably added a line to the manifest that lets it be linked statically.
19:20 * z-man checks
19:21 <Lucifer> oh good, camview segfaults on exit
19:21 <z-man> no, it ftgl is not linked statically, it was a dependency.
19:22 <z-man> it's a C library, right?
19:22 <Lucifer> should be
19:23 <Lucifer> ah, I get it, heh
19:23 <Lucifer> I told it to link ftgl statically
19:24 <luke-jr> anyone happen to know if ftgl improves or detracts performance?
19:24 <Lucifer> both
19:24 <z-man> heh :)
19:24 <luke-jr> wtf
19:24 <luke-jr> how can it possibly do both?
19:24 <z-man> it improves the look
19:24 <Lucifer> it's one of those situations where there's no clear answer
19:24 <z-man> but at a cost.
19:24 <Lucifer> and the cost itself isn't always there, sometimes it improves the look *and* at higher performance
19:25 <z-man> and in some situations, it can be faster than 0.2.8's rendering.
19:25 <luke-jr> would it be simple to explain why the cost is sometimes there and sometimes not?
19:25 <Lucifer> in any case, it's our surest ticket to Really Good i18n support, so it has to stay if only for that reason
19:25 <Lucifer> luke-jr: sure. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SCENE AT THE TIME
19:26 <luke-jr> mh
19:26 <Lucifer> there's a higher initial cost, though. 0.2.8 loads the font textures and leaves them there, iirc
19:26 <Lucifer> ftgl has to render them as needed, but caches the renders
19:27 <luke-jr> the text isn't given a mirrored texture afaik, so perhaps that can be fixed
19:27 <Lucifer> so it slows up starting the game, but after it's gone through all the regular glyphs, it's a bit faster
19:27 <Lucifer> in any case, I think camview is good and should go into 0.3.1 :)
19:27 <luke-jr> what tool is used to edit the font, btw?
19:27 * Lucifer wants to see what people do with it with textures
19:28 <Lucifer> fontforge, iirc
19:28 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: can camview be customised like wrtl's cockpit?
19:28 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it's a cockpit widget
19:28 <luke-jr> also, do font*.{xcf,png} have a reason to be in trunk anymore?
19:28 <Lucifer> voodoo did all the Right Things to get it included
19:28 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yes, the old font rendering is still available
19:28 <PinkTomato> ooo :), might try that then
19:29 <Lucifer> it may always be available, in fact. I can't think of a reason to completely remove it, until supporting that code costs more than its worth
19:29 <epsy> z-man, eh well, these lines did require -P
19:29 <z-man> Not acceptable, ensign epsy.
19:29 <z-man> :)
19:29 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it's mostly our fault it's not there
19:30 <z-man> -P is not available here for me, so I suppose it's unavailable elsewhere.
19:30 <z-man> You'll need to find another way.
19:30 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: but I'm over here thinking it doesn't seem to slow down rendering, it looks nice, it works, and it's been sitting around for a year waiting for us to move on it
19:30 <Lucifer> -P isn't available for me, but :-P is
19:31 * Lucifer wonders what UNIX would look like if :- had been adopted as a standard for commandline options
19:31 <Lucifer> so, any objections to putting camview in the trunk?
19:32 <epsy> z-man, Lucifer: grep --version?
19:32 <z-man> GNU grep 2.5.3
19:32 <Lucifer> same here
19:32 <epsy> I have the same..
19:32 <z-man> manuel@gonzo:/mnt/E/NoBack/Video$ grep -P bla
19:32 <z-man> grep: Support for the -P option is not compiled into this --disable-perl-regexp binary
19:32 <z-man> blame kubuntu.
19:32 <epsy> can you tell me what kind of regexp it accepts?
19:33 <Lucifer> normal regexps?
19:33 <epsy> blah, another reason to have ubuntu :<
19:33 <Lucifer> you forget that perl is not the "standard" regexp
19:33 <epsy> ok, wtf are normal regexp?
19:33 <z-man> It's an experimental option.
19:33 <Lucifer> if it works in sed....
19:33 <z-man> man 7 regex
19:34 <epsy> no such entry, meheh
19:34 <z-man> also, of course, instead of grep + awk you can just use sed at times :)
19:34 <epsy> not very familiar with it
19:35 <epsy> but err, thinking about it, it should be better
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19:35 <epsy> well, let's see if sed likes my rexexps
19:36 <Lucifer> z-man: have you built any rpms since you left gentoo?
19:38 <z-man> No.
19:38 <Lucifer> I'm wondering how important it is for us to keep building rpms
19:38 <Lucifer> seems like it's a .deb world these days
19:39 <z-man> I can't see a reason to build .debs either when we have autopackages that work everywhere.
19:39 <epsy> VIM uses the same kind of regexp than sed by default, right?
19:39 <z-man> .debs are sort of expected to be taylored well to each distribution, which I can't be arsed to.
19:40 <z-man> launchpad has this build service where you just give them the source and they build .debs for all currently supported ubuntu variants.
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19:42 <Lucifer> well, .debs that are built for debian are kindof standard and expected to work on any debian-based distribution (even if they don't)
19:46 <teabot> armablah: I’m Not Going To Stumble On About Idealism « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/im-not-going-to-stumble-on-about-idealism/>
19:46 <Lucifer> er, wtf?
19:46 <Lucifer> + rpmbuild -ba /home/dave/RPM/SPECS/armagetronad.spec
19:46 <Lucifer> error: File /home/share/Projects/RPM/SOURCES/armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha1.src.tar.bz2: No such file or directory
19:46 <Lucifer> why is it looking there? that's just crazy stuff
19:48 <Lucifer> that's an old directory I used to build rpms when I was still in mandriva
19:49 <Lucifer> so clearly this is fallout from copying my home directory from mandriva to kubuntu, but where is this thing getting defined? :(
19:54 * Lucifer found it and fixed it
19:55 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r752 fixed build...
19:59 <epsy> grm..if haveone have the output of bzr missing when you have one revision more than on the branch's parent..
19:59 <epsy> well, forget
20:02 <Lucifer> is epsy making sense to anybody?
20:03 <ct|kyle> epsy never makes sense
20:03 <luke-jr> lol
20:04 * luke-jr gives up on font design
20:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: luke-jr * r8748 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/textures/ (Armagetronad.ttf armagetronad.sfd): I made a Pts character and a retarded smiley character
20:05 <Lucifer> er
20:05 <Lucifer> luke-jr: you did make sure you put those where they're actual utf-8 characters, right? ;)
20:06 * Lucifer hates waiting for emails
20:10 <epsy> is there anything better than using sed | wc -l ?
20:18 <z-man> depends on the sed command.
20:18 <z-man> Lucifer: there's an official retarded smiley in unicode?
20:18 <epsy> right, that seems to be working without grep
20:19 <epsy> bzr log ${srcdir} -l ${localrevisions} | sed -ne 's/^ *revno: [0-9\.]\+$/\0/p' | wc -l
20:19 <epsy> for example
20:20 <Lucifer> z-man: I'm sure there's a place where it could be put
20:21 <luke-jr> Lucifer: of course
20:21 <luke-jr> z-man: no, my smiley implementation is retarded
20:21 <luke-jr> z-man: I made it out of O, o, and U
20:21 <epsy> well, luke-jr can just type : ) where and he gets an officially retarded smiley
20:21 * Lucifer hates waiting for emails
20:22 <epsy> here *
20:22 <luke-jr> ☺
20:22 <epsy> here you go
20:22 <PinkTomato> must be UTF-8 then?
20:22 <epsy> (note how you can barely read it, heh)
20:22 <z-man> Lucifer: objections against putting Arma on PC ACTION (German PC games magazine, obnoxious, but popular)
20:22 * Lucifer notes how epsy can barely read it
20:23 <epsy> hmmm capslock?
20:23 <Lucifer> z-man: no?
20:23 <z-man> good :)
20:23 <luke-jr> z-man: we have enough obnoxious players that it wouldn't make a big difference
20:23 <Lucifer> I should just put camview in 0.3.1, it's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to ask for approval
20:23 <Lucifer> not that luke-jr would notice, he never plays :)
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20:23 <luke-jr> Lucifer: wouldn't you be the one approving it? o.O
20:23 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I do so!
20:24 <luke-jr> I have 3D accel now
20:24 <epsy> is it intel 3D accel?
20:24 <Lucifer> luke-jr: well, it is an unreviewed patch
20:24 <luke-jr> epsy: no
20:24 <Lucifer> I mean, I did scroll through the implementation and look at it, but that doesn't mean much
20:24 <epsy> then you will still be able to "love intel for it's GPUs"
20:25 <PinkTomato> intel blames valve and valve blames intel
20:25 <luke-jr> valve sucks
20:25 <epsy> valve..wtf was valve?
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20:25 <epsy> @g valve
20:25 <teabot> epsy: http://www.valvesoftware.com/ - Valve
20:25 <PinkTomato> HalfLife
20:25 <epsy> & portal?
20:25 <PinkTomato> yeah :)
20:26 <PinkTomato> I got portal working only when I turned off all mirroring and transparancy
20:26 <PinkTomato> which means you can't see the walls
20:26 <epsy> watching a few videoshots of portal it looks great but gameplay could be better
20:26 <epsy> it's too easy
20:26 <PinkTomato> Well I would love to play it ;)
20:26 <PinkTomato> I don't know if I should be blaming intel or valve though
20:26 <epsy> I mean, portals are bidirectionnal, you can build them individually..
20:27 <epsy> and wtf has this to do with intel?
20:27 <epsy> valve does DirectX anyway?
20:27 <PinkTomato> Intel Graphics Card
20:27 <luke-jr> does not exist
20:27 <PinkTomato> Well when I say card, i meant chipset
20:27 <luke-jr> :D
20:27 <epsy> hrhr
20:28 <Lucifer> #bzr
20:28 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
20:28 <epsy> PinkTomato, install nexuiz, and try that race server
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20:28 <epsy> it has a much more tricky portal gun
20:29 <PinkTomato> wow that looks pretty good
20:30 <epsy> ie. You can't build portals individually, they are unidirectionnal, but the projectile it a bit slower :)
20:30 <epsy> is *
20:30 <Lucifer> here we go with another long branch operation :(
20:30 <PinkTomato> :(
20:30 <epsy> Lucifer, have you made a bzr repo somewhere on your comp?
20:31 <Lucifer> epsy: yes?
20:31 <epsy> use it?
20:31 <Lucifer> er, ok?
20:31 <Lucifer> look, I get this:
20:32 <epsy> branching is usually shorter using a repo
20:32 <Lucifer> dave@fiona:~/Projects/armagetronad/armagetronad$ bzr pull lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1
20:32 <Lucifer> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/dave/Projects/armagetronad/armagetronad/lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1/".
20:32 <Lucifer> when trying to pull to my branch
20:32 <epsy> outdated bzr
20:32 <epsy> needs 1.6
20:32 <Lucifer> epsy: but if I do that, I still have to update the lp branch somehow
20:32 <epsy> but?
20:35 <Lucifer> oh yeah, I wanted to put up another autopackage for PinkTomato (hi there!) to test
20:35 * Lucifer guesses he'll do it after this branching is done, so he can build it with camview in it
20:42 <Concord> could I have a 6 word description of camview? i have no idea what it is but it sounds cool
20:42 <PinkTomato> rear view mirror widget very awesome
20:42 <Concord> oho!
20:42 <Concord> that is cool
20:42 <@armabot> 0.3.1: dave@davefancella.com r751: Credited voodoo for camview || dave@davefancella.com r750: Added camview, from voodoo
20:42 <Concord> I could reassign my glance back button to something else
20:43 <luke-jr> since 0.3.1 was done bzr-only, any objections if I manually sync it into svn?
20:44 <PinkTomato> Corn: screenshots: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18350
20:44 <luke-jr> or maybe z-man's script is able to do it?
20:44 <Corn> What?
20:44 <Lucifer> it's not just rear view, it's any view, it's configurable
20:44 <Corn> Oh wow is that several different camera views at once
20:45 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8749 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): epsy: ..and have an actual working version label
20:45 <Lucifer> yeah, the show-off camview shows two on the cockpit
20:45 <Corn> Interesting
20:45 <Corn> that might actually make cockpit a viable view
20:45 <Lucifer> er, that sentence didn't make any sense
20:46 <Lucifer> rather, it makes sense if you mean cockpit as a synonym for in-cam, which iit isn't :)
20:46 <Corn> i meant incam :P
20:46 <Lucifer> cockpit replaces the HUD that's in 0.2.8
20:47 <Corn> cockpit is more of a synonym to HUD really
20:47 <Lucifer> not anymore, with textures it's finally grown to where it's bigger than HUD
20:48 <Lucifer> it's not too far from being able to provide a view of the inside of the light cycle
20:48 <Corn> a view from inside the light cycle could just be a HUD module
20:49 <Corn> covering the entire view
20:49 <Lucifer> yeah, that's what the cockpit provides now
20:49 <Corn> well i gotta go bye
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20:49 <Lucifer> but you have to be able to glance and see the other parts of the cycle, which it doesn't provide
20:54 <Lizmatic> COCKPIT
20:54 <Lucifer> it's really too bad liz can only read the first four letters of any word
20:55 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r754 ..and have an actual working version label || [0.3.1] r751 Credited voodoo for camview || [0.3.1] r750 Added camview, from voodoo || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r753 I made a Pts character and a retarded smiley character
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21:08 <ct|kyle> #quote get #crazy-tronners 7
21:08 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: There is no Quote with id #7 in my database for #crazy-tronners.
21:11 <ct|kyle> darn i thought for sure i quoted ed and his Cock
21:11 <ct|kyle> pit files messages
21:15 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you got any .package files with the fixed cockpit?
21:15 <Lucifer> fixed cockpit? was it broke?
21:15 <Lucifer> oh wait, yeah, coming :)
21:16 <BabyBug> kk :)
21:16 * Lucifer just deleted what he had to rebuild
21:16 <epsy> Lucifer, I should be done
21:16 <epsy> wow magic IRC
21:16 <Lucifer> done with what?
21:16 <Lucifer> cleaning up your mess? ;)
21:16 <epsy> :)
21:17 <epsy> unless building then running arma with --versioninfo gives crap, mess is cleaned up
21:18 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: actually, when looking at resource font sets it gets way easier if you remove support for the old fonts
21:18 <epsy> should I put a PKGBUILD in trunk?
21:18 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: weren't we keeping support for the old fonts around for performance reasons on older machines?
21:18 <Lucifer> or was it just more of our collective fear of commitment?
21:19 <wrtlprnft> i think it was just because the new fonts were experimental
21:19 <Lucifer> if that's the reason, then we can drop support anytime :)
21:20 <wrtlprnft> we could support rendering the fonts at a lower resolution than it's really used at, though
21:20 <Lucifer> the new fonts are at least as functional as the old, I think
21:20 <epsy> do we have a target for building stuff that helps utilities such as whatever builds .debs ?
21:21 <wrtlprnft> when i do the resource font thing they may be gone
21:21 <Lucifer> well, if there's a reason to keep the old font system around, I'm happy to keep it around, and I'm willing to not support resource fonts that use the old fonts
21:21 <wrtlprnft> alone because of the fact that they use up the name tFont
21:21 <Lucifer> epsy: it's in the trunk-build-work branch
21:21 <epsy> ah, crap
21:21 <Lucifer> oh yeah, you need to pull a branch :)
21:22 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: basically, I don't care. If you want to pull the old fonts out, I can't think of any reason it should ruin my day :)
21:22 <epsy> more branches to the same product for different tools, meh, I guess
21:22 <Lucifer> epsy: yep :)
21:24 <Lucifer> this thing needs to hurry up :/
21:24 <epsy> well, arch packages are not mandatory
21:24 <epsy> and we have to deal stuff with the arch guys then :(
21:25 <Lucifer> I'm gonna go fart around for a bit, it's really frustrating waiting for email :(
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21:37 <epsy> ok, I built arma. NOW I can make distclean
21:41 <K-Yo> wb P4
21:41 <P4> when did i leave?
21:41 <P4> and what reason?
21:41 <epsy> Success
21:46 <epsy> Lucifer, if I should change some values in a file I should have some .in version of it, and then adjust it from the Makefile?
21:46 <epsy> (that file being a helper at building packages in trunk-build)
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21:47 <epsy> or is it another way that's the standart?
21:49 <K-Yo> * P4 est parti (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:49 <K-Yo> I don't have time
21:49 <P4> no no, it means my time was over :þ
21:50 <epsy> #any --from P4 -no-limit
21:50 <@armabot> epsy: (any [<channel>] [--user <name>] [<nick>]) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen doing. This includes any form of activity, instead of just PRIVMSGs. If <nick> isn't specified, returns the last activity seen in <channel>. If --user is specified, looks up name in the user database and returns the last time user was active in <channel>. <channel> is only (1 more message)
21:56 <K-Yo> --nolimit ?
21:56 <Lucifer> epsy: you should never adjust a makefile directly
21:56 <Lucifer> if there's a .am file, you edit that and that only
21:56 <epsy> I don't see --nolimit documented anywhre on this function
21:56 <Lucifer> if there's just a .in file, you edit that
21:57 <Lucifer> the makefile in the build module is different, though. It's just a regular makefile
21:57 <epsy> yes-
21:58 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: BabyBug (hi there!)
21:58 <BabyBug> Lucifer
21:58 <Lucifer> http://www.davefancella.com/armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha1.i486-generic-linux-gnu.package
21:58 <Lucifer> let me know if it works :)
21:58 <Lucifer> also, check the incam for a surprise
21:58 <epsy> I'm building up a PKGBUILD, but unlike debian's 'rules', it's not interactive, so I'll have to fill in the values before letting makepkg do it's job
21:59 <BabyBug> Lucifer, got the torrents on again?
22:00 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes :)
22:00 <Lucifer> Red Dwarf, this time
22:00 <epsy> PinkTomato, I didn't ask, but is valve's portal based off id4 ?
22:00 <PinkTomato> epsy: Not sure really
22:01 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I think being able to upload on a home connection at 60kB/sec is a feat in itself
22:01 <epsy> Lucifer, so, would be putting up a PKGBUILD.in and having a make rule fill the values in The Right Way To Do It ?
22:01 <Lucifer> epsy: I don't know, what the hell is PKGBUILD?
22:02 <epsy> a file that makepkg reads to build archlinux packages
22:02 <PinkTomato> report anon stats to developers?
22:03 <Lucifer> epsy: in that case, there is no "right" way to do it
22:03 <Lucifer> but here's the general approach, which you'll see done in the old mandriva spec files and autopackage file
22:03 <epsy> so I have to make up the right way to do it?
22:04 <Lucifer> basically, we want configure to have options to allow us to configure every aspect of the build, including where shit gets installed
22:04 <Lucifer> then, in the package build instructions, there's usually a way to tell it what options to pass to configure
22:04 <PinkTomato> still suffering from 404 resource here, checking i'm running the right ver atm
22:04 <Lucifer> so use that
22:05 <epsy> ah, so from the makefile I should have a way to fetch packagename and packageversion ?
22:05 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: is the 404 error followed by a bunch of xml validation errors?
22:05 <PinkTomato> yes, so it might not be a 404
22:05 <Lucifer> epsy: yes. Currently there's some rewriting done for every thing, where our sources contain a placeholder of sorts
22:06 <Lucifer> the original rpm spec file is a series of m4 files, that's like the most hardcore we can get
22:06 <Lucifer> but you can use something simple and use sed to do the replacement if you like
22:06 <Lucifer> you know, to put the version in
22:06 <epsy> yeah
22:06 <epsy> well, PKGBUILDs are meant to be simple, so I'll keep it simple
22:07 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it shoudl start with a 404 error for resource.dtd or something like it
22:07 <PinkTomato> yeah its a .dtd 404
22:07 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: you can easily verify it's the right version by looking in the about menu
22:07 <Lucifer> it should be versioned 0.3.1_alpha1
22:08 <PinkTomato> I made my own copy today,
22:08 * Lucifer didn't test this particular autopackage, but dammit, it was fixed!
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22:13 <Lucifer> oops, I should've tested the server before tagging, heh
22:20 <epsy> boo graffitis
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23:35 <Lucifer> great, teh server doesn't build. :(
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Log from 2009-01-06:
--- Day changed Tue Jan 06 2009
00:03 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
00:04 <z-man> Lucifer: I'm on it, but first I have to get the client to build with CODELEVEL=2.
00:04 <z-man> (small grrr)
00:04 <Lucifer> heh
00:04 <z-man> Wouldn't be able to do more than small dirty work right now anyway.
00:07 <Lucifer> hmmm, the server built just a couple of days ago, though. :/
00:07 * Lucifer isn't sweating it much right now, just anxiously waiting emails that are probably nto coming today after all
00:08 <z-man> I only have one error in the server so far, it was easy to fix.
00:08 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac75653.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
00:09 <z-man> A call to a cockpit function not existing on the server.
00:10 <Lucifer> I fixed that one, that was my fault
00:10 <Lucifer> it came in with camview
00:10 <Lucifer> make[3]: *** No rule to make target `../../armagetronad/src/vParser.cpp', needed by `libtools_a-vParser.o'. Stop.
00:10 <Lucifer> it doesn't make sense because it was building a couple of days ago
00:11 <z-man> I don't get that one.
00:12 <Lucifer> really?
00:13 <Lucifer> probably I should clean up my build directory and try again then
00:16 <smoothice> PinkTomato: is it just me or did you get the AIs on your Team Sumo server to play sumo correctly?
00:17 -!- sinewav_away is now known as sinewav
00:18 <smoothice> PinkTomato: :)
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00:18 <PinkTomato> smoothice: if they do, that wasn't me ;)
00:22 <smoothice> z-man: If the functionality of the username field was mixed case in previous versions of the client, then why did it change now?
00:22 <z-man> Umm, no. The username was always lowercase, IIRC.
00:23 <z-man> It was just that non-armathentication aware clients plainly put the player name into the username field, which definitely is wrong.
00:23 <smoothice> z-man: alright
00:24 <z-man> gotta move from room to room
00:24 * z-man wishes he had taken his batteries
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00:56 <@armabot> 0.3.1: Manuel Moos r754: Fixed server compilation. || Manuel Moos r753: Fixed more warnings. || Manuel Moos r752: Fixed unused variable and variable init order warnings.
01:00 <teabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r754 Fixed server compilation.... || [0.3.1] r753 Fixed more warnings.... || [0.3.1] r752 Fixed unused variable and variable init order warnings....
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02:18 <neal9> #list
02:19 <@armabot> neal9: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
02:19 <neal9> #weather
02:19 <@armabot> neal9: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
02:19 <neal9> #weather<barrie>
02:19 <neal9> #weather(barrie)
02:19 <PinkTomato> #weather Brighton, UK
02:19 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Portslade by Sea, Brighton, United Kingdom is 28.9°F (1:19 AM GMT on January 06, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Steady).
02:19 <neal9> #weather Barrie
02:20 <@armabot> neal9: The current temperature in Barrie Tall Oaks West End, Barrie, Ontario is 13.6°F (8:17 PM EST on January 05, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Steady).
02:20 <PinkTomato> 13!!
02:20 <neal9> ya
02:20 <PinkTomato> #finc 13
02:20 <@armabot> PinkTomato: -10.5555555556
02:20 <neal9> lol
02:20 <neal9> wewt for canada
02:20 <neal9> lol
02:20 <PinkTomato> hehe, no idea what that is
02:20 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
02:20 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 19.4°F (8:20 PM EST on January 05, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
02:20 <PinkTomato> I'm sitting in gloves going its fricking freezing
02:20 <PinkTomato> and you have -11
02:20 <neal9> lol
02:21 <neal9> ya u get used to it
02:21 <neal9> sits supposed to go down to -23 on sunday
02:21 <neal9> celcius
02:21 <neal9> #finf -13
02:21 <ct|kyle> #finc -23
02:21 <@armabot> ct|kyle: -30.5555555556
02:21 <PinkTomato> I can't imagine whats that like
02:21 <ct|kyle> #cinf -23
02:21 <neal9> BLODDY COLD
02:22 <neal9> BLOODY*
02:22 <PinkTomato> lol :D
02:22 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
02:22 <ct|kyle> lol
02:22 <neal9> lol
02:22 <ct|kyle> #g -23 in F
02:22 <PinkTomato> argh, Lucifer someone changed it again
02:22 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:22 <neal9> r u guys in the tronic bowl?
02:22 <ct|kyle> #g -23C in F
02:22 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (-23) degrees Celsius = -9.4 degrees Fahrenheit
02:22 <ct|kyle> finally
02:22 <neal9> #g -40C in F
02:23 <@armabot> neal9: (-40) degrees Celsius = -40 degrees Fahrenheit
02:23 <PinkTomato> I love that one :)
02:23 <neal9> hahah i never understood that
02:23 <neal9> #g -41C in F
02:23 <@armabot> neal9: (-41) degrees Celsius = -41.8 degrees Fahrenheit
02:23 <neal9> wtf?
02:23 <PinkTomato> one of them must be on a logoromathric scale
02:23 <BabyBug> #g 42C in F
02:23 <@armabot> BabyBug: 42 degrees Celsius = 107.6 degrees Fahrenheit
02:24 <BabyBug> #g -42C in F
02:24 <neal9> lol
02:24 <@armabot> BabyBug: (-42) degrees Celsius = -43.6 degrees Fahrenheit
02:24 <neal9> si know this one:
02:24 <neal9> #g 100C in F
02:24 <@armabot> neal9: 100 degrees Celsius = 212 degrees Fahrenheit
02:24 <neal9> wewt for bvoiling points
02:24 <neal9> #g 100C in K
02:24 <@armabot> neal9: 100 degrees Celsius = 373.15 kelvin
02:24 <neal9> shahahha
02:24 <PinkTomato> Celcius makes sense
02:24 <PinkTomato> move over to it ;)
02:24 <neal9> #g 0K in C
02:24 <@armabot> neal9: 0 kelvin = -273.15 degrees Celsius
02:25 <neal9> mover over to it?
02:25 <PinkTomato> I mean, switch to it
02:25 <PinkTomato> its the most useful metric measurement
02:25 <neal9> WE ARE IN CELCIUS
02:25 <neal9> lol
02:25 <PinkTomato> Oh shi sorry
02:25 <PinkTomato> It's the people south of you
02:25 <neal9> i r canadian eh?
02:25 <neal9> ya
02:26 <PinkTomato> your even futher than us
02:26 <neal9> we also use the metres centimetres etc
02:26 <PinkTomato> you have km/h?
02:26 <neal9> where do u live?
02:26 <neal9> ya
02:26 <PinkTomato> UK
02:26 <neal9> oh
02:26 <PinkTomato> we still use miles and sell milk in pints
02:26 <neal9> noobs
02:26 <neal9> lol
02:26 <PinkTomato> pretty much :P
02:26 <neal9> and use weight as currency
02:26 <neal9> haha
02:26 <ct|kyle> I like the metric system, but i'm not good a lower C conversions
02:26 <PinkTomato> lol :D
02:27 <neal9> thats cuz u dont live in the cold
02:27 <ct|kyle> ya i do
02:27 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: I'm no good with estimated low celcius either, as I don't live in the cold :D
02:27 <neal9> when u live in the cold, u find out what each temo is in each system
02:27 <neal9> 0C=32F
02:28 <ct|kyle> -40C = -40F
02:28 <ct|kyle> I forgot about that one
02:28 <neal9> lol
02:28 <PinkTomato> do they teach metric in US schools?
02:28 <ct|kyle> in science
02:28 <neal9> r u guys in the tronic bowl?
02:28 <PinkTomato> science? It's a maths subject surely?
02:28 <ct|kyle> but that is not much on temperatures (the classes i took anyway)
02:29 <PinkTomato> neal9: Its an ambitious plan...
02:29 <neal9> no, all science is done in metrioc
02:29 <ct|kyle> math the still use feet
02:29 <neal9> r u in it pink?
02:29 <PinkTomato> neal9: isn't it next year?
02:29 <ct|kyle> and when they try to use metric on certain problems they have a hard time
02:29 <neal9> no, its on june 7th
02:29 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: how?
02:30 <PinkTomato> neal9: if somehow we can gather that many people, I would be :)
02:30 <ct|kyle> one of teachers used meters in a gravity problem
02:30 <neal9> oh ya
02:30 <ct|kyle> only tought the 32 fps
02:30 <neal9> cuz its like 23m/s/s
02:30 <ct|kyle> not the 9.81 mps
02:30 <ct|kyle> meters/sec
02:30 <neal9> frames per second? XD
02:30 <ct|kyle> feet / sec
02:31 <neal9> i know
02:31 <ct|kyle> i know
02:31 <PinkTomato> new units are confusing
02:31 <neal9> zomg this is what happens when i try to do homework at the comp desk
02:32 <neal9> i hate ADD
02:32 <ct|kyle> that is probably the 1 think i like better about american system is that gravity is a nice round number
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02:32 <ct|kyle> lol
02:32 <PinkTomato> shame the whole system dosen't follow suit ;)
02:33 <PinkTomato> 1Kg is 1 Newton though
02:33 <neal9> lo
02:33 <neal9> funy colours
02:33 <neal9> wewt
02:33 <PinkTomato> colours?
02:33 <neal9> yes
02:34 <PinkTomato> I do not see colours
02:34 <neal9> do you see the colour in the chat?
02:34 <PinkTomato> only in the names
02:34 <neal9> hmmm must just be in mine
02:34 <PinkTomato> mIRC?
02:34 <neal9> the names?
02:34 <neal9> no
02:34 <neal9> this is an online version
02:34 <PinkTomato> Yeah, the chatter names
02:34 <neal9> i have mirc but i dunno how to use it to get on here
02:35 <PinkTomato> connect to server irc.freenode.net
02:35 <PinkTomato> and join room #armagetron ?
02:35 <neal9> ok
02:36 <neal9> how do i connect to the server?
02:37 <PinkTomato> isn't it somewhere in options in mIRC?
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02:38 <mkzelda> ALT + FAX for the mirc fax machine
02:38 <nsh22> yay
02:38 <PinkTomato> :)
02:38 <neal9> i kinda like the online 1 tho lol
02:38 <neal9> it ahs colour
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02:39 <nsh22> dont worry
02:39 <nsh22> im still here
02:39 <nsh22> #list
02:39 <@armabot> nsh22: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
02:41 <nsh22> #armaconfig
02:41 <@armabot> nsh22: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
02:41 * nsh22 slaps nsh22 around a bit with a large trout
02:41 * nsh22 slaps PinkTomato around a bit with a large trout
02:41 <nsh22> hahaha
02:43 <nsh22> kk i g2 do french homework
02:44 <nsh22> #signin
02:44 <PinkTomato> see you :)
02:44 <nsh22> lo l how do i sign in?
02:44 <PinkTomato> identify
02:44 <nsh22> kk
02:44 <nsh22> #identify
02:44 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
02:44 <nsh22> # armabot identify
02:44 <@armabot> i suck
02:44 <nsh22> lol
02:44 <nsh22> # armabot identify neal
02:45 <@armabot> i suck
02:45 <nsh22> # armabot identify neal mmmmm
02:45 <@armabot> i suck
02:45 <nsh22> # armabot register neal mmmmm
02:45 <@armabot> i suck
02:45 <PinkTomato> #alias remove armabot
02:45 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The operation succeeded.
02:45 <nsh22> #armabot register neal mmmmm
02:45 <nsh22> can u see that?
02:45 <PinkTomato> yes.. :)
02:46 <PinkTomato> use /msg armabot
02:47 <nsh22> oh so u saw my pass?
02:47 <nsh22> lol
02:48 <nsh22> is there a way to clear the chat?
02:48 <nsh22> #clear
02:49 <PinkTomato> no :)
02:50 <PinkTomato> that's entered google now
02:50 <nsh22> what has?
02:50 <PinkTomato> mmmmm
02:50 <nsh22> ffs
02:50 <nsh22> time to go pass changeing :)
02:50 <PinkTomato> please say that isn't your password to everything?
02:50 <nsh22> no it isnt
02:50 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
02:50 <nsh22> jusr a few things lol
02:51 * nsh22 thinks of what all has mmmm as a pass
02:53 <nsh22> what else has it?...
02:53 <nsh22> oh well
02:53 <nsh22> nothing important anyway
02:53 <PinkTomato> o good :)
02:53 <nsh22> lol thats my "i dont care if this gets hacked" pass
02:54 <nsh22> hence the simplicity
02:54 <PinkTomato> :)
02:54 <nsh22> hey, u run DD racing right?
02:54 <PinkTomato> right
02:54 <nsh22> ok.. um a bunch off ppl want me to make racing maps just like the ones on ur server
02:55 <nsh22> i dont raeally want to do it lol, so i probably wont
02:55 <nsh22> but i was wondering if you stored the maps on gthe arma repository?
02:55 <PinkTomato> no, they are stored in a repository
02:56 <PinkTomato> I suggest you contact the author of the file before you go including the maps though :)
02:56 <PinkTomato> there's quite a few of them
02:56 <nsh22> is it on lke jrs repository?
02:56 <PinkTomato> no a private race one
02:56 <nsh22> and im not planning on just including them :)
02:56 <nsh22> oh ok
02:56 <PinkTomato> http://dessert.ath.cx/arma/
02:57 <nsh22> that would be copyright infringement possible
02:57 <nsh22> spossibly*
02:57 <nsh22> fiking s's
02:57 <PinkTomato> depends on yr country
02:57 <PinkTomato> I think, don't know copyright law
02:57 <nsh22> lol
02:57 <nsh22> im just gonna makemy own
02:57 <PinkTomato> anyway, yeah, just contact the author of the file if you borrow anything :)
02:57 <nsh22> maps that is
02:57 <PinkTomato> always good to see other examples first though :)
02:58 <nsh22> ya
02:58 <nsh22> ive played on ur maps, they are pretty fun
02:58 <PinkTomato> well none of the maps are mine :D
02:58 <PinkTomato> I attempted a teleport one, never got round to finishing it
02:59 <nsh22> aw, who was it that did that? i remember playing it somewhere
02:59 <PinkTomato> can't remember either, possible a CT member
03:00 <nsh22> hmmm
03:00 <nsh22> anyways, its 9:00 pm and i have a sh!t load of french homework to do
03:01 <PinkTomato> its 2am and I have a lot of sleeping to do
03:01 <nsh22> ill still be on here but i might not reply for a while
03:01 <nsh22> lol
03:01 <PinkTomato> so see you soon :)
03:01 <nsh22> bai
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03:01 <nsh22> #quit
03:01 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
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03:39 <teabot> armablah: Armagetron !!!!! - Game Podunk <http://www.gamepodunk.com/forum/bonfire-chatting/3176-armagetron.html>
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04:16 * BabyBug growls at Lucifer
04:17 <BabyBug> Now arma can't load fortress cafe :P
04:20 <BabyBug> hrmmm....
04:20 * BabyBug wonders why her IP is a tiscali IP.....
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04:22 <BabyBug> Much better ^^
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05:07 <smoothice> Are there any risks to running a dedicated server using 0.2.8.2 instead of 0.2.8.2.1?
05:09 * Lucifer growls back at BabyBug
05:10 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
05:10 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 37.8°F (10:10 PM CST on January 05, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Falling).
05:10 <Lucifer> smoothice: yes
05:10 <smoothice> Lucifer: What could happen?
05:11 <Lucifer> your server might melt
05:11 <smoothice> Lucifer: ...
05:11 <Lucifer> I don't remember what the reason for the release was, other than it was a security fix
05:11 <smoothice> Lucifer: I'm serious.... could it be hacked?
05:11 <Lucifer> and the 0.2.8 branch was too far along, but not far enough for a release, resulting in 0.2.8.2 getting a patch and a release as 0.2.8.1
05:11 <Lucifer> er
05:12 <Lucifer> you get the idea
05:12 <Lucifer> yes, it could be hacked, but I don't remember how
05:12 <Lucifer> why are you considering 0.2.8.2?
05:12 <Lucifer> especially when we're so close to releasing 0.2.8.2.1.2a
05:12 <smoothice> Lucifer: 1 is an unlucky number
05:12 <Lucifer> no, 1 is a lonely number
05:13 <smoothice> even worse
05:13 <smoothice> 0.2.8.2.1.2???
05:13 <Lucifer> a, don't forget the a
05:13 <smoothice> That's not a milestone in launchpad...
05:13 <Lucifer> after that, we'll release 0.2.8.2.1.2bc
05:14 <smoothice> gaah
05:14 <smoothice> lol
05:14 <Lucifer> then, we'll move on to 0.2.8.2.2.1.68r
05:14 <smoothice> I don't believe this anymore lol
05:14 <Lucifer> after 0.3.1, we're going to binary release numbers, however
05:14 <smoothice> 0.4, 0.5?
05:14 <Lucifer> the version after 0.3.1 will be 0.10.01
05:15 <smoothice> Lots of servers run 0.2.8.2?
05:15 <smoothice> .*
05:15 <Lucifer> then, 0.10.10, 0.10.11, 0.10.100, 0.10.101, etc
05:15 <smoothice> Lots of servers still run 0.2.8.2
05:15 <Lucifer> they shouldn't
05:15 <smoothice> Like Wild West Sumo
05:15 <smoothice> Version: 0.2.8.2 unix dedicated
05:15 <Lucifer> maybe I'll dig up the thread where it was discussed on the forums and hack all of them
05:15 <smoothice> lol
05:15 <Lucifer> THEN they'll know they need to upgrade
05:16 <Lucifer> er, I wrote that wrong
05:16 <Lucifer> the version after 0.3.1 will be 0.11.10
05:16 <smoothice> I cannot find the 0.2.8.2.1 thread..
05:16 <smoothice> I just want to know what .1 fixed
05:16 <Lucifer> it's in the developer's only forum
05:16 <smoothice> that’s all
05:16 <smoothice> devs only forum?
05:18 <smoothice> I'm not trying to hack.. simply interesting in the benefits of using .1
05:18 <Lucifer> I want to report a couple of in-game freeze/crash bugs I have found in
05:18 <Lucifer> the latest version of Armagetron (0.2.8.2).
05:18 <Lucifer> A client can freeze the server using a big num value (like 0xffff) in
05:18 <Lucifer> the id_req_handler function used by the server.
05:18 <Lucifer> The server will be freezed and the CPU reaches 100%
05:18 <Lucifer> The second bug instead is a crash which happens through an owner value
05:18 <Lucifer> bigger than MAXCLIENTS+1.
05:18 <Lucifer> The function about I refer is the following:
05:18 <Lucifer> nNetObject::nNetObject(nMessage &m):lastSyncID_(m.MessageIDBig()),refCtr_
05:18 <Lucifer> (0)
05:18 <Lucifer> If the value is not too big the server terminates with the message:
05:18 <smoothice> I think I'll use .1 :)
05:19 <Lucifer> Internal Error: Internal error in static nMachine& nMachine::GetMachine
05:19 <Lucifer> (short unsigned int) in network/nNetwork.cpp:3820 : Assertion userID <=
05:19 <Lucifer> MAXCLIENTS+1 failed
05:19 <Lucifer> No standalone proof-of-concept is available at the moment, sorry.
05:19 <Lucifer> Then I have also a doubt about the ReceiveLeagueMessage function used in
05:19 <Lucifer> Krawall, when this function is used?
05:19 <Lucifer> I ask you that because the code could cause the crash of the server
05:19 <Lucifer> through an invalid numPlayers (too big or negative).
05:19 <Lucifer> I wait your reply.
05:19 <smoothice> What about Tigers Network Classic Play? Running 0.2.6.0-c
05:19 <Lucifer> :)
05:19 <Lucifer> that was from Luigi Auriemma, our favorite random bug finder
05:19 <Lucifer> he finds the weirdest bugs and reports them to uus, and we feel so bad about the exploits we have to release a security release
05:19 <smoothice> How dangers is that ??? :P
05:19 <smoothice> dangerous
05:20 <Lucifer> it's probably not affected, heh
05:20 <smoothice> wow
05:20 <smoothice> lol
05:20 <Lucifer> guru3: you're still running your servers on 0.2.6.0-c?
05:20 <Lucifer> smoothice: there was a big network refactoring that happened for 0.2.8
05:20 <luke-jr> there was a -c?
05:20 <Lucifer> luke-jr: evidently
05:20 <luke-jr> smoothice: 0.2.8.2.1.1 exists, sortof
05:20 <Lucifer> is that with ctf?
05:20 <smoothice> luke-jr: where can I download it
05:21 <luke-jr> smoothice: Subversion
05:21 <luke-jr> Lucifer: no
05:21 <luke-jr> Lucifer: GCC 4.2 fixes
05:21 <luke-jr> in theory, the actual code is the same as 0.2.8.2.1
05:21 <smoothice> luke-jr: All I see is # 0.2.5/
05:21 <smoothice> # 0.2.5.1/
05:21 <smoothice> # 0.2.6/
05:21 <smoothice> # 0.2.7.1/
05:21 <smoothice> # 0.2.8/
05:21 <smoothice> # 0.2.8-IPv6/
05:21 <smoothice> # 0.2.8-auth/
05:22 <smoothice> # 0.2.8.0/
05:22 <smoothice> # 0.2.8.2/
05:22 <@armabot> smoothice: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
05:22 <smoothice> # 0.3.0/
05:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: I believe it's the 0.2.8.2 branch
05:22 <smoothice> Not 0.2.8.2.1.1
05:22 <smoothice> ok
05:22 <luke-jr> branch, not tag
05:22 <Lucifer> smoothice: you pissed off armabot. Smooth move ex-lax.
05:22 <smoothice> Lucifer: sorry? :(
05:22 <luke-jr> lol
05:23 <smoothice> luke-jr: /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8.2 just contains code
05:23 <luke-jr> smoothice: wtf else did you expect?
05:23 <smoothice> lol
05:23 <Lucifer> heh
05:23 <smoothice> I expect another folder
05:23 <smoothice> 0.2.8.2.1.1
05:23 <smoothice> expected*
05:23 <luke-jr> smoothice: I didn't tag it.
05:23 <Lucifer> what part of "exists sorta" did you misinterpret?
05:23 <smoothice> Lucifer: all of it :P
05:24 <Lucifer> evidently ;)
05:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: What is the version set to? 0.2.8.2?
05:24 <smoothice> or 0.2.8.2.1.1
05:24 <Lucifer> hey, 0.3.1_alpha1 is the new 0.2.8.2.1.1.2.1.4.56.23
05:24 <luke-jr> smoothice: probably 0.2.8.2.1
05:24 <smoothice> ok
05:24 <luke-jr> the *only* changes are to make it compile with GCC 4.2
05:24 <Lucifer> when we finish the development series, we'll release 0.four.oh
05:24 <luke-jr> or 4.4 or such
05:24 <luke-jr> how it runs should be unchanged
05:25 <smoothice> 0.4?
05:25 <smoothice> When will that be?
05:25 <smoothice> How many more years after 0.2.8.3?
05:25 <Lucifer> after 0.11.111111
05:25 <luke-jr> 0.3 will become 0.4 or 1.0
05:26 <smoothice> Since 0.3 is considerably fake...
05:26 <smoothice> In terms of publicity
05:26 <luke-jr> wtf? fake?
05:26 <smoothice> yeah
05:26 <luke-jr> wtf?
05:26 <smoothice> the IRC topic
05:26 <luke-jr> 0.3 is experimental/development
05:26 <smoothice> oh
05:26 <smoothice> right...
05:26 <luke-jr> 0.4/1.0 exists when we decide to start fixing bugs
05:26 <luke-jr> :þ
05:27 <Lucifer> but that's going to be awhile, because epsy is writing new bugs faster than he can write new features
05:27 <Lucifer> I think he stays up late just thinking up new bugs to add to the game
05:27 <smoothice> ok
05:28 <luke-jr> LOL
05:28 <smoothice> lol
05:28 <smoothice> I have to head off :P
05:28 <smoothice> From this crazyness :)
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05:28 <Lucifer> oh yeah, I need to build a server package
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09:51 <teabot> armablah: Solooo Defff « Play Fortress <http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/solooo-defff/>
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10:35 <guru3> Lucifer: only one of them
11:05 <wrtlprnft> #rss add sty+ct http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py/sty_ct
11:05 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
11:05 <wrtlprnft> #rss announce #armagetron sty+ct
11:05 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
11:05 <@armabot> sty+ct: kyle r648: Adding ADMIN_COMMAND to LadderLog || kyle r647: Adding INVALID_COMMAND to ladderlog || kyle r646: Adding the following Shooting deaths; DEATH_SHOT_FRAG, DEATH_SHOT_SUICIDE, and DEATH_SHOT_TEAMKILL to ladderlog || voodoo r645: add SET_PLAYER_TEAM || Ed Amos r644: voodoo's suggested fix to stop players being selected by their user id. caused problems if a player was named "8" or something equally stoopid. Now uses
11:06 <wrtlprnft> #rss add sty http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py/sty
11:06 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
11:06 <wrtlprnft> #rss announce #armagetron sty
11:06 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
11:09 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py/source if anyone cares
11:09 <@armabot> sty: Manuel Moos r882: Merging from mainline. || epsy r881: merging from mainline || epsy46 r880: fixed unseen conflicts || wrtlprnft r879: Applied a patch that z-man didn't originally include || Manuel Moos r878: Fixed compiler errors introduced by the last merge. || Manuel Moos r877: Fixed network message memory leak. || Manuel Moos r876: Deleted old directories. || Manuel Moos r875: Moved resources and DTD to a better place. ||
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11:33 <teabot> armablah: Ubuntu Linux » Blog Archive » [ubuntu] Armagetron problem <http://ubuntu.linuxguru.co.uk/ubuntu-armagetron-problem-2/1997/>
11:36 <teabot> armablah: Armagetron Advanced <http://www.find-freebies.org/armagetron-advanced/>
12:16 <z-man> #m Lucifer shall we continuously merge everything from 0.3.1 to the trunk?
12:16 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
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12:26 <Flex> :o
12:34 <PinkTomato> Hello Flex :)
12:36 <Flex> hello PinkTomato :)
12:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8750 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Make sure nonsense GCC option doesn't get added even if it is accepted.
12:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8751 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/configure.ac:
12:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8743 to 8750:
12:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8750 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-06 12:36:57 +0100 (Tue, 06 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
12:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Make sure nonsense GCC option doesn't get added even if it is accepted.
12:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
12:40 <PinkTomato> anyone know the easiest way to move a NTFS partition?
12:42 <z-man> dd and ntfsresize.
12:42 <z-man> I suppose you're moving from a smaller to a larger partition?
12:42 <PinkTomato> from a 40GB hard drive to 250GB :)
12:43 <z-man> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntfsresize
12:44 <z-man> Typically, the process is easy:
12:44 <Flex> what OS?
12:44 <z-man> dd if=<old partition id> of=<new shiny hd>
12:44 <z-man> Linux, of course.
12:44 <PinkTomato> I'll be using Linux boot cd, easiest way I think
12:44 <z-man> Yep.
12:44 <Flex> it's only 40gbs, you could just make an imagine :p
12:45 <PinkTomato> z-man: that's all?
12:45 <z-man> no, second step is "ntfsresize <new shiny hd>"
12:45 <z-man> then get Windows to actually recognize the new partition :)
12:45 <PinkTomato> I see, so that will resize it from a 40GB to whatever?
12:45 <z-man> yep.
12:46 <PinkTomato> is it going to take all day?
12:46 <z-man> Getting windows to recognize the new partition probably should be your first step.
12:46 * BabyBug gettings PinkTomato
12:46 <BabyBug> gettings?!
12:46 <BabyBug> i mean cuddles
12:46 <BabyBug> dont ask me where that came from O.o
12:46 <PinkTomato> lol, um... hehe :D
12:46 <z-man> no, resizing to a bigger space typically just involves rewriting some header information.
12:46 * PinkTomato returns the hugs :)
12:46 <z-man> the dd is going to take a bit, of course. Depends on your HD speed.
12:47 <PinkTomato> its a slow drive 5200rpm, so I'll bring tetris
12:47 <Flex> i did something like that a while back.. i messed up, so backup maybe
12:48 <z-man> backups are always a good idea.
12:48 <z-man> But as long as you don't write to your old HD, nothing bad can happen.
12:48 <PinkTomato> so just be careful where you but you ifs.
12:49 <PinkTomato> put the ifs. Yeah, I'll back My Documents.
12:49 <z-man> the of= is more of a problem :)
12:49 <PinkTomato> ah, don't want to spend all day and nothing happening
12:51 <PinkTomato> so "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb"
12:52 <PinkTomato> I don't need the 1 on hdb?
12:53 <z-man> yes.
12:53 <PinkTomato> got it :). thanks :)
12:53 <z-man> You'd want to partition hdb first with one ntfs partition.
12:54 <PinkTomato> I see, at excactly the same size?
12:54 <z-man> No, make it the size you want it to be.
12:54 <PinkTomato> ah right, then will the size change afterwards?
12:54 <Flex> what happens if you swtich if and of?
12:54 <PinkTomato> Flex: disaster
12:55 <Flex> what kind?
12:55 <z-man> PinkTomato: yes. after the dd, you'll have a 40GB filesystem on a 250 GB partition.
12:55 <z-man> the ntfsresize will then make a 250GB filesystem out of that.
12:56 <PinkTomato> z-man: ok, I'll read about ntfsresize.
12:57 <PinkTomato> Flex: from what I gather, it would still look like it's working, but putting 0's on all your lovely data.
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13:13 <TaZ> Anyone awake?
13:20 <PinkTomato> TaZ: of course
13:20 <PinkTomato> its nearly 1pm
13:20 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r755 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8743 to 8750:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r975 Make sure nonsense GCC option doesn't get added even if it i...
13:21 <TaZ> Pinktomato: haha, it's 7:21 am here.
13:21 <TaZ> :P
13:22 <PinkTomato> hehe, well that's pretty nice time to wake up anyway
13:22 <TaZ> ehhh
13:25 <PinkTomato> It is, just enough time to do that assignment you should have done weeks ago.
13:26 <TaZ> lol, writing papers 5 minuets before class
13:26 <TaZ> :D
13:26 <PinkTomato> ;)
13:26 <PinkTomato> I'm getting better, its 2 days before now
13:26 * TaZ is the biggest procrastinator
13:26 <TaZ> oo nice
13:29 <TaZ> You started school already?
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13:56 <teabot> armablah: Ubuntu Linux » Blog Archive » [ubuntu] Armagetron problem <http://ubuntu.linuxguru.co.uk/ubuntu-armagetron-problem-2/1997/>
13:58 <z-man> Well, I'd post a reply there, but I'd be dammed to get an account.
14:02 <TaZ> z-man: you and not making accounts, I swear.
14:02 <TaZ> :D
14:04 <PinkTomato> well they could have at least used an openID thingy, ideally no login at all though, for a blog.
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14:27 <z-man> Yeah. If you want to encourage people to post helpful comments, you put as little barriers in their way as possible.
14:28 <z-man> And you make it easy for people knowing about the problem to find it, which that poster would have utterly failed at, too.
14:28 <z-man> were it not for teabot. What kind of service is armablah, anyway?
14:28 <z-man> does it scan a huge bunch of blogs for mentions of armagetron?
14:30 <z-man> Double fail. There isn't even an obvious way to get an account.
14:30 <guru3> it's hooked up to google iirc
14:30 <wrtlprnft> well, if you get z-man to read a post about an armagetronad problem i think you've succeeded
14:30 <z-man> that's to teabot's credit.
14:31 <wrtlprnft> there needs to be a bit of a challenge in finding it :-)
14:32 <wrtlprnft> err, how the hell DO you get an account there?
14:32 <z-man> heh :)
14:33 <wrtlprnft> maybe you're not supposed to make your own account
14:33 <z-man> you're supposed to hack it.
14:33 <guru3> "User registration is currently not allowed."
14:34 <wrtlprnft> well, what's the point
14:34 <wrtlprnft> there's tons of questions and not a single answer
14:34 <guru3> maybe they're all rhetorical :/
14:34 <wrtlprnft> it's to annoy people who have the same problem and then land on a page containing the problem's exact description but no answer
14:34 <Flex> lol
14:35 <guru3> lol
14:35 <guru3> and i feel like i should be doing something constructive
14:35 <guru3> but i'm not
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16:11 <Flex> cafe people?
16:11 <Flex> #cafe
16:11 <@armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): Flex, Fuzzy Mcmuff, Lizmatic, |x| FoFo
16:12 <Flex> MaZuffeR, G5, sunny
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16:25 <PinkTomato> Hmm... sorry, anyone have I idea what to do after dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sda ? GParted says space is unallocated.?
16:30 <PinkTomato> I think I should have done /dev/sda1, whoops
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16:43 <epsy> ljrbot, I guess the ".5" was addressed to me :)
16:43 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: "I" is not a valid command.
16:43 <epsy> Lucifer,
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16:49 <Lucifer> epsy:
16:51 <Lucifer> #m z-man I don't care if we continuously merge from 0.3.1 to the trunk, but I'd say it's not going to be worth it :)
16:51 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
16:51 <Lucifer> #m z-man I need windows and mac os x packages asap, I'd like to put up test builds of those
16:51 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
16:52 <Lucifer> #m z-man I'm going to look into the camview problem described in the thread and then either back it out (and put it in trunk) or fix it, whichever is appropriate ;)
16:52 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
16:52 <Lucifer> #m z-man but I'd like to release asap, so there shouldn't be a long string of changes in 0.3.1 to keep synced with the trunk
16:52 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
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17:05 <Lizmatic> #cafe
17:05 <@armabot> Lizmatic: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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17:18 <e_n_d_e_r> noobs! :P
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18:26 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r756 Merging from 0.3.1:...
18:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8753 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (21 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Bazaarmagetron
18:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: Automatic merging of commits that would change history order:
18:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------
18:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: revno: 755.1.1
18:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: committer: Manuel Moos <z-man@users.sf.net>
18:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: branch nick: armagetronad
18:38 <z-man> #m Lucifer Mege from 0.3.1 to trunk done. The version script change related build errors are gone now, both for svn checkouts and bzr builds. versioninfo for svn is useless, of course, but we can fix that slowly on the trunk.
18:38 <@armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
18:38 <Lucifer> heh
18:39 <Lucifer> so camview finally made it to the trunk ;)
18:39 * Lucifer just posted his dedicated server build
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18:51 * BabyBug cuddles Lucifer
18:56 <BabyBug> #cafe
18:56 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:01 <z-man> Lucifer: oops, your #ms arrived too late :)
19:02 <z-man> camwiew has no bad effect unless you actually activate it, and the bug described in the forums could actually be described as a feature.
19:02 <z-man> Although a more xmly syntax would be preferable for in-camview rendering.
19:04 <Lucifer> Also, camviews currently need to be at the end of the cockpit file otherwise next widgets are rendered in the last camview widget <--- not sure that's a feature ;)
19:05 <z-man> Not in that form :) But explicit rendering of widgets into the camwiew could be cool.
19:05 <teabot> armablah: 12.08 club-ubuntu WAN party « a psychopath and a psychiatrist walk ... <http://iheartyerface.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/1208-club-ubuntu-wan-party/>
19:05 <Lucifer> it's probably a matter where the curent rendering viewport is changed by the camview, but not returned to what it was
19:05 <z-man> Yep.
19:06 <Lucifer> but it seems like a little recursive rendering with the camview is in order, because you're right :)
19:06 <z-man> You may need to implement a viewport stack.
19:07 <z-man> anyway, off for groceries.
19:12 <Lucifer> have fun with that
19:12 <Lucifer> it looks like this is the culprit:
19:13 <Lucifer> viewports[viewport]->Select();
19:14 <Lucifer> #math calc 15*20*4.1
19:14 <@armabot> Lucifer: 1230
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19:21 <TaZ> Excuse me epsy, I see TST is coming up soon again
19:29 <teabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r757 Automatic merging of commits that would change history order... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r756 Fixed last few errors with SVN builds.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Merging from 0.3.1:...
19:34 <Lizmatic> TaZ, you're not allowed to enter
19:34 <Lizmatic> :D
19:35 <TaZ> oh hai Lizmatic. And how are you today?
19:37 <Lizmatic> um, good?
19:37 <TaZ> I can't enter because I speak Spanish?
19:37 <Lizmatic> no, you can't enter because you've got to be at least 10 years-old
19:37 <TaZ> Looks like we both can't enter then
19:38 <TaZ> :D
19:38 <Lizmatic> "ha ha"
19:38 <TaZ> How was ur New Years?
19:38 <Lizmatic> ur?
19:38 <TaZ> ur=your
19:38 <TaZ> There we go
19:38 <Lizmatic> no, your=your
19:38 <Lizmatic> ur=childtalk
19:39 <TaZ> I take it your New Years was good.
19:39 <Lizmatic> it's creepy how invested you are about my new years
19:39 <Lizmatic> but yes, it was fine
19:40 <TaZ> Is it weird that I'm being nice to you?
19:40 <Lizmatic> yes?
19:40 <TaZ> then stfu
19:40 <TaZ> jk :D
19:40 <Lizmatic> o_O
19:40 <Lizmatic> such wit, such humour.. *sigh*
19:40 <TaZ> When you cough, do you type it too?
19:42 * Lucifer coughs
19:42 <TaZ> oh hai Lucifer
19:42 <Lizmatic> what do you think the /me is for? moron
19:42 <TaZ> My other favorite person
19:43 <TaZ> oh Lizmatic, you're so funny
19:43 * Lucifer squeezes Lizmatic's shoulder
19:43 * Lizmatic is confused
19:43 * TaZ laughs hystaricly
19:44 <Lizmatic> hysterically.
19:44 <TaZ> oh your rite. Not everyone can care about spelling like you. :)
19:44 <Lizmatic> you're.
19:45 <TaZ> If I had some stickers, I would def give you one for being the spell catcher of the day
19:47 <Lizmatic> stickers? aren't they like.. 5 cents? I wouldnt want you to waste your months paycheck, please
19:47 <TaZ> You're right, you'll need that for child support.
19:48 <Lizmatic> 5 cents for child support? idk how much your mom gave to support you but that aint enough :P
19:48 <Lizmatic> poor thing
19:48 <TaZ> Sorry, I wasn't spoiled like many kids today. I see you were one of them. :D
19:49 <Lizmatic> yep, my mom gave me more than 5 cents.. i'm so spoiled
19:49 <Lizmatic> o/
19:49 <TaZ> Too she never taught you about..nvm
19:50 <Lizmatic> only a wimp goes back on his word
19:50 <TaZ> Then I'm a wimp
19:58 <Lucifer> TaZ: you're spewing hatred in this channel
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20:00 <TaZ> Lucifer: haha
20:01 <TaZ> As you can see, I tried to end the conversation. I even tried making a nice conversation, but oh well. I don't have time to argue with kids on the internet
20:02 <PinkTomato> on an #armagetron related note
20:02 <PinkTomato> A person has asked me for windows dedicated with armathentication
20:02 <PinkTomato> I'm prepared to compile them myself, but owuld rather use more professionally done
20:03 <PinkTomato> aabeta is 200803
20:06 <PinkTomato> Has any been done? forums etc?
20:10 <Lucifer> http://austin.craigslist.org/sof/981119903.html <--- worst job programming posting
20:10 <Lucifer> TaZ: the difference between you an lizmatic is that she doesn't take it personally when I tell her she's spewing hatred all over the place ;)
20:10 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: I don't have any idea if it's been done in a way that you're asking
20:11 <Lucifer> because you're basically asking for a release ;)
20:11 <TaZ> Lucifer: your humor is different, so it's hard to tell if you're serious or not. :p
20:11 <Lizmatic> it's hard to tell when you're 8, yes
20:11 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: That's true to be honest ;), OK, i'll do it myself :)
20:11 <Lucifer> not true, my 10 year old daughter can tell when I'm serious and not very well
20:12 <TaZ> Lizmatic, did I say you could talk?
20:12 <TaZ> :p
20:12 <Lizmatic> o_O
20:12 <Lizmatic> Since when do I need permission
20:12 <Lucifer> come to think of it, all of my kids do a good job calling me out on my bullshit
20:12 <Lizmatic> haha Luci
20:12 <Lizmatic> your kids are smarter than taz!
20:13 <Lizmatic> wait.. thats no hard accomplishment.. nvm..
20:13 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: well of course, look at their dad ;)
20:13 <TaZ> lol
20:13 <Lizmatic> :D
20:13 <Lizmatic> how old are your kids again?
20:15 <PinkTomato> Over 18 :P
20:15 <Lucifer> 5, 8, and 10
20:15 <TaZ> Lucifer is like 60
20:15 <Lizmatic> aw, nice
20:15 <Lizmatic> I'm due in 26 days..
20:15 <PinkTomato> aw wow :), looking forward to it?
20:15 <Lucifer> oh yeah? then you're going to have a 0-aged kid?
20:16 <Lizmatic> hopefully Luci :P
20:16 <Lizmatic> and yes I am!
20:16 <Lucifer> first kid?
20:16 <PinkTomato> :), no more bump :)
20:16 <Lizmatic> yep :)
20:16 <Lucifer> kids are so much fun :)
20:17 <Lucifer> if I had it to do all over again, I'd have had the same three kids with a different woman
20:17 <Lizmatic> agreed, women are not so much fun..
20:17 <Lizmatic> xD
20:17 <TaZ> lol
20:17 <Lucifer> oh no, women are very much fun, I must disagree with you there
20:17 <PinkTomato> Depends on the person
20:18 <BabyBug> Women = Lots of fun =D
20:18 <Lizmatic> BabyBug would know..
20:18 * Lizmatic coughs
20:18 <BabyBug> =)
20:18 <Lucifer> why? Isn't BabyBug a 50 year old man pretending to be a young internet lesbian?
20:18 <TaZ> lolol
20:19 <BabyBug> Lucifer, damnit! you got me
20:19 <Lizmatic> no she's a beautiful young chick
20:19 <TaZ> K-Yo does Voodoo have an aim?
20:19 <Lucifer> that reminds me, I was fixing voodoo's camview
20:19 <Lucifer> before I got distracted looking for a job
20:19 <K-Yo> TaZ, I can't tell...
20:19 <TaZ> lol?
20:20 <Lizmatic> Voodoo isn't gay, TaZ
20:20 <K-Yo> TaZ, I don't use aim :P
20:20 <TaZ> AIM is the best
20:20 <TaZ> What about MSN?
20:20 <Lizmatic> um, MSN is the best
20:20 <TaZ> Uh no
20:20 <TaZ> MSN is for teh noobs
20:20 <Lucifer> fuck you all, xmpp is the best, and luke-jr knows it
20:20 <Lizmatic> compare AIM and MSNs interface..
20:20 <TaZ> That must be what old people use
20:21 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: do people really use those programs?
20:21 <TaZ> AIM is so much better..
20:21 <Lucifer> I thought the world had gone to programs like trillian
20:21 <Lizmatic> AIM is mostly used by Americans, Europeans use MSN
20:21 <Lucifer> and, er, the one I use
20:21 <Lucifer> whatever it's called
20:21 <Lucifer> kopete, that's it
20:21 <TaZ> MSN is just annoying to me
20:21 <Lizmatic> there are multi IM programs too
20:21 <Lizmatic> that support AIM+MSN+everything
20:21 <Lucifer> actually, American professionals use Yahoo!
20:22 <Lucifer> idiot american kids use AIM
20:22 <Lizmatic> Yahoo :| don't get me started
20:22 <Lucifer> look, anything that has AOL embedded in the name is inherently bad
20:22 <TaZ> Professionals you gmail
20:22 <Lucifer> gmail isn't an IM program
20:22 <Lucifer> it's a mail service
20:22 <TaZ> It has a messanging client within it, right?
20:22 <Lucifer> no
20:23 <Lizmatic> Myspace has an IM client too.. xD
20:23 <Lucifer> google offers an IM program
20:23 <Lucifer> based on xmpp
20:23 <TaZ> Myspace is for noobs too
20:23 <Lucifer> connects to the jabber network
20:23 <Lucifer> luke-jr loves it
20:23 <TaZ> ah
20:23 <epsy> TaZ, it is
20:23 <Lucifer> and being a professional, I've only ever been asked for a Yahoo! name, never a googletalk name
20:23 <Flex> what about msn?
20:23 <Lucifer> I'd love for googletalk to take over that role, because it hooks up to jabber and I can just use my jabber name
20:24 <TaZ> I hate MSN
20:24 <Lucifer> why? the Borg are the best star trek villains ever!
20:24 <TaZ> epsy, for the TST, I'm going to have to review somethings.
20:24 <epsy> ok, have fun
20:24 <TaZ> Me and Killer are going to sign up for an American Sever. I will screenshot
20:24 <epsy> I will too
20:25 <TaZ> haha ok
20:26 <Lizmatic> Flex: can I be in your ladle team?:D
20:26 <Flex> no
20:26 <Lizmatic> faggot
20:26 <TaZ> lolz
20:26 <epsy> TaZ, cna you hurry?
20:26 <TaZ> Oh, i'm waiting for killer
20:26 <Lizmatic> fine, I don't wanna be in your ladle team anyway!
20:26 <TaZ> I'll do it tonight
20:26 <epsy> ...
20:26 <TaZ> ..........
20:26 <epsy> why are you telling me about it now then?
20:27 <TaZ> To be on the lookout;D
20:27 <Flex> Lizmatic, answer my question and i'll answer yours!
20:27 <epsy> also, when is tonight?
20:27 <Lizmatic> what question? oO
20:27 <TaZ> Like maybeh 8:00 pm
20:27 <epsy> in 30 minutes?
20:28 <Lizmatic> oh.. no I'm not gonna move
20:28 <TaZ> -_-
20:28 <TaZ> EST time
20:28 <epsy> obviousely
20:28 <epsy> @calc 8:00 pm EST in GMT
20:28 <TaZ> which is 5 hours and 30 minuets away
20:28 <teabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
20:28 <epsy> don't rely on me then
20:28 <Lizmatic> Flex: I'm not gonna be on your ladle team now :( go screw yourself!
20:28 <TaZ> I won't
20:28 <TaZ> Lizmatic, aren't you two dating>
20:29 <Lizmatic> yes totally, so?
20:29 <TaZ> thats cool
20:29 <epsy> I've been bored in math class and reinvested that stupid min/max dating ages thing
20:30 <epsy> that stupid €100 calculator wont even let me accumulate stuff in the grapher
20:30 <Flex> how are we dating.. she has a boy friend
20:30 <luke-jr> Lucifer: Google's IM program is not XMPP
20:30 <Lizmatic> lmao
20:30 <epsy> let me guess, it's XMPP + extensions
20:31 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it's hooked into the jabber network...
20:31 <TaZ> o, I thought Flex was the stalker guy
20:31 <TaZ> nvm
20:31 <PinkTomato> Whatever is best, no one uses it
20:31 <luke-jr> Lucifer: also, the IM program is built into Gmail too
20:31 <Flex> yeah.. i'm the stalker guy and who are you?
20:31 <luke-jr> epsy: no, it's proprietary
20:31 <TaZ> o
20:31 <Lucifer> I don't see it in my gmail interface
20:32 <epsy> that other stalker guy
20:32 <PinkTomato> so your forced to use the protocol, thankfully not the program of the client
20:32 <TaZ> I am TaZ
20:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer: yes, XMPP is supported on their servers
20:32 <TaZ> Nice to meet you
20:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer: but their clients are strictly non-XMPP
20:32 <luke-jr> Lucifer: try a different browser maybe
20:32 <Lizmatic> flex, taz is a bit mentally challenged.. don't mind him :)
20:32 -!- PinkTomato [i=502a7fff@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8803da1ebf05eab7] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
20:32 <TaZ> lmao
20:32 <epsy> it's a web-based IM application isn't it?
20:32 <luke-jr> epsy: there's both
20:32 <epsy> both?
20:33 <luke-jr> there's a web client in GMaail
20:33 <luke-jr> and Google Talk, a standalone Win32 app
20:33 <epsy> ah
20:34 <epsy> hrm
20:34 <TaZ> epsy, have you had a chance to mess with the Xperia X1 yet?
20:34 <epsy> no?
20:35 <TaZ> o
20:35 <epsy> p
20:35 <TaZ> se
20:36 <TaZ> Have you heard of it before?
20:36 <luke-jr> hey
20:36 <epsy> barely
20:36 <luke-jr> can I email someone here to make sure my email works? :þ
20:36 <epsy> luke-jr, epsy@jaim.at
20:36 <ct|kyle> TaZ: http://www.postimage.org/aV8J_cJ-99d7f0d2e4867550539ea87cd46553e5.png
20:37 <ct|kyle> or http://www.postimage.org/gx1o4jTi-99d7f0d2e4867550539ea87cd46553e5.png
20:37 <TaZ> I think you showed me that one
20:37 <epsy> but well, unless sony ericson starts using standardized ports(for headset etc), I'd rather avoid it
20:38 <TaZ> Yea, that's why I didn't like the Gphone
20:38 <TaZ> Ct|kyle, do you have his MSN?
20:39 <TaZ> I just posted it on my forums :P http://vcl-clan.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=762
20:39 <epsy> it almost sounds as if he had his first letter automatically capitalized
20:39 <z-man> Grr, DNS is broken, brb.
20:40 <luke-jr> epsy: u get it?
20:40 <epsy> I don't know yet; I have greylisting on that address :(
20:40 <ct|kyle> TaZ: not sure
20:41 <TaZ> ah
20:42 <z-man> grml, must be the router.
20:42 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ad1994b.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
20:42 <TaZ> wb
20:43 <PinkTomato> wb TaZ
20:44 <TaZ> :D
20:44 <Lucifer> z-man: fixed the camview, pushing in a minute
20:45 <Lucifer> I fixed it before I remembered to pull branch updates, heh
20:45 <epsy> luke-jr, blah, send it to my email from launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~epsy
20:48 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@bl5-18-1.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #armagetron
20:48 -!- z-man [n=manuel@bl11-46-65.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Nick collision from services.]
20:48 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
20:48 <z-man> Ah. Of course, now distcheck fails again. Joy :)
20:50 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: davefancella.com is down?
20:51 <PinkTomato> @title davefancella.com
20:51 <teabot> PinkTomato: Error: 'davefancella.com' is not a valid http url.
20:51 <PinkTomato> @title http://davefancella.com
20:51 <teabot> PinkTomato: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4096 bytes.
20:52 <epsy> @fetch http://davefancella.com
20:52 <Lucifer> wtf, is my internet off?
20:52 <teabot> epsy: '<html><body>It works!</body></html>\n'
20:52 <Lucifer> #ping
20:52 <@armabot> pong
20:52 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
20:52 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
20:52 <Flex> who wants to join my ladle team? (lizmatic can't join)
20:52 <epsy> so you're going solo again?
20:53 <Flex> lol
20:53 <Flex> no
20:53 <epsy> can we even hear a word of it?
20:53 <Flex> there was no such team
20:53 <Flex> is
20:53 <luke-jr> epsy: u liar
20:54 <Flex> how about two x teams, though?
20:54 <epsy> luke-jr, hm?
20:54 <epsy> Flex, we're only 12 aren't we?
20:54 <luke-jr> epsy: u do not live in Antarctica!
20:54 <epsy> I do!
20:54 <luke-jr> LIAR
20:55 <epsy> Flex, well, that's a round 16, but half are inactive
20:55 <luke-jr> Cat5e does not work across that distance!
20:55 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: all is well now, at least for the .package downloads.
20:56 <epsy> brb
20:56 <TaZ> Flex
20:56 <TaZ> Let me join
20:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/Ball/dodgeball-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
20:59 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: armagetron-dedicated still runs after window closure.
21:01 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it does if you have signal amplifiers installed
21:02 <Lizmatic> flex isnt going to let you join, taz
21:03 * Lizmatic JOINS!
21:03 <TaZ> I was kidding smart one. I don't even play Fortress that well
21:03 <Lizmatic> btw sav, appa told me he chose us for his team for a reason.. or something
21:03 <Lizmatic> i'm curious to hear what that is :P
21:04 <Lucifer> finally
21:04 <Lucifer> man, bzr doesn't work very well when the network breaks after you start running it
21:07 <Lucifer> is anybody else having problems with the forums?
21:07 <BabyBug> define problems
21:07 <PinkTomato> forums load within a second here
21:08 <BabyBug> now i'm getting Internal Server Error
21:08 <Lucifer> when I post, I get a 500 Internal
21:08 <Lucifer> yeah, that
21:08 <Lucifer> guru3: ping
21:08 <BabyBug> when i clicked onto the second page of a thread..
21:09 <guru3> Lucifer: pong
21:09 <Lucifer> problems with the forums?
21:09 * PinkTomato is now suffering forum difficulties
21:09 <Lucifer> we're getting internal server errors
21:09 <guru3> not that i'm aware of
21:09 <Lucifer> are you fooling with the forums right now?
21:09 <guru3> no
21:09 <Lucifer> hmmmm
21:09 <PinkTomato> it happened like 4 minutes ago
21:09 <Lucifer> they're hosted on sourceforge now, right? or is that just the main site?
21:09 <PinkTomato> it was fine
21:10 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8754 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/Makefile.am: Fixed fake memory leak report (finally!) and hopefully 'make distcheck'.
21:10 * Lucifer thinks the root of all problems is sourceforge
21:10 <guru3> the mainsite and the forums are hosted on the same server
21:10 <Lizmatic> I get an error as well
21:10 <guru3> off of sourceforge
21:10 <PinkTomato> i have 404.
21:10 <PinkTomato> on trying to use an errordocument
21:10 <Lucifer> we just have bad release karma, we always have a problem when we're having a release, but never when we're not
21:10 <PinkTomato> forum loaded :S
21:11 <PinkTomato> it's not everytime
21:11 <Lucifer> happens to me whenever I post
21:11 <guru3> something's cocked up with the mailserver
21:11 -!- TaZ [i=4aeb0b6d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-751e39b4a5df7ea8] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
21:12 <guru3> causing too many processes to run
21:12 <Lucifer> ah, email notifications ;)
21:12 <guru3> i'll go find out what's happening now
21:12 <guru3> in the meantime
21:12 <guru3> stop posting shit
21:15 <Lucifer> er, oops
21:15 * Lucifer just posted again
21:22 <Lucifer> heh, why hasn't teabot told us about my newest commits? :/
21:23 <epsy> on what branch?
21:24 <epsy> or rather, what revision numbers?
21:25 <Lucifer> 0.3.1
21:25 <Lucifer> wait, did it say something while I was timing out a little while ago?
21:25 <epsy> r754 ?
21:25 <guru3> i've put in a support ticket
21:25 <guru3> it seems they've screwed up the mail server
21:26 <Lizmatic> epsy: puuqui posted about the language thing on like 5 different arma forums............
21:26 <guru3> which is causing postdrop and sendmail proceeses to queue up, spanwed by php's mail fucntion
21:26 <Lucifer> I was actually concerned about r753, I just did r754
21:26 <epsy> Lizmatic, and you didn't even listen to me
21:26 <guru3> that hits a process limit, which causes php.cgi to be killed sometimes in the middle of processing your requests
21:26 <z-man> yay, distcheck works again.
21:26 <Lizmatic> epsy: about?
21:26 <Lucifer> z-man: I'm loving bzr right now :)
21:27 <epsy> [22:30] <Lizmatic>: you're just scared of the racist witch hunters, thats fine
21:27 <epsy> [22:31] <epsy>: until now your error is human and acceptable..do not run off the borders, please
21:27 <epsy> [22:36] <epsy>: do you understand the guideline now?
21:27 <epsy> [22:42] <epsy>: Lizmatic: ping
21:27 <epsy> [23:55] <epsy>: Lizmatic...
21:27 <epsy> [23:55] <epsy>: It has been one hour since I asked you. Please answer NOW.
21:27 <z-man> Understandable :)
21:27 * Lucifer considers testing autopackage building again, now that he's merged epsy's version stuff
21:27 <Lizmatic> lloll
21:27 <Lucifer> ooo, epsy, spammer!
21:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, cockpit fixed yet? :P
21:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: afaik, PinkTomato (hi there!) told me it was working fine for him
21:28 <epsy> can you also link your 5 different forums?
21:28 <Lucifer> what's it doing wrong for you?
21:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Oh..it's erm...just not loading...
21:28 <BabyBug> Same as the first time
21:28 <BabyBug> no cockpit..with that 404 thingy
21:29 <Lucifer> hmmm, so I need to rebuild and test again and make sur ethe problem stayed fixed
21:29 <PinkTomato> same here, sorry, i didn't make clear, tested dedicated
21:29 <epsy> P4, why not also @x/member ?
21:30 <Lucifer> ok, starting another autopackage build
21:30 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: what was the link for standard? All Beta Testign posts are unaccessiable,
21:30 <teabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r754 Merged from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r758 Fixed fake memory leak report (finally!) and hopefully 'make... || [0.3.1] r753 Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview w... || [0.3.1] r752 Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview w... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Fixed server compilation.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Fixed more warnings.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Fixed unused
21:30 * P4 ?
21:31 <PinkTomato> oh OK, I'll wait for the new build
21:31 <epsy> http://crazy-tronners.com/p4/commands.php
21:31 <Flex> PinkTomato, http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpits_list#Essential_Remix check that out!
21:31 <PinkTomato> lol, that is minimal flex xD
21:31 <Lucifer> z-man: it doesn't look like bzr preserves branch history information when it's merged
21:32 <Flex> perfect
21:32 <P4> epsy: what do you mean?
21:32 <Lucifer> so luke-jr's concern is there, there won't be a history stored in svn of the 0.3.1 branch
21:32 <epsy> P4, for your 'xers' command
21:32 <PinkTomato> I think circular bars around you and everyone would be sweet
21:32 <P4> yes, i have to add looking within the authenticated
21:32 <Lucifer> you don't think they'd look too much like pretentious halos?
21:33 <PinkTomato> hmm... maybe :D
21:33 <PinkTomato> Loads of games do that anyway I guess :)
21:34 <PinkTomato> Oh, wrtl's cockpit does that, just remebered, except not halos, straight lines
21:34 <Flex> yeah
21:34 <PinkTomato> I use that cockpit generally :)
21:34 <Flex> i tried that.. but couldn't add it for some reason, then i gave up for fps issues
21:35 <Lucifer> does what?
21:35 <epsy> heh yeah, it would be neat if you could put stuff on the floor
21:35 <PinkTomato> Ooo, I wonder how well a beat would work
21:35 <PinkTomato> like, it would beat strongly when rubber is nearly out
21:36 <Flex> hmm, how would the beat look like? a circle hud that increases in size is possible.. i think
21:36 * Lucifer wants the cockpit to put bubbles in the air with player name and speed and then draw a line to the cycle it's referring to
21:36 <Lucifer> (and only do it for cycles that are real close)
21:36 <PinkTomato> hehe Lucifer :)
21:36 <Lucifer> ping too, that should be in the bubble
21:37 <Flex> interesting
21:37 <PinkTomato> is that possible in the XML?
21:37 <PinkTomato> (current state)
21:37 <Lucifer> no
21:38 <PinkTomato> wrtl's does something similar though?
21:38 <Flex> it's pretty much exactly like wrtlprnft bar, but with speed
21:38 <Lucifer> ?
21:38 <Flex> the other stuff, don't think it's possible
21:38 <Lucifer> maybe he has added something like that and I just don't know about it? ;)
21:38 * Lucifer hasn't been keeping up with developments in awhile
21:38 <PinkTomato> I think it works on all cycles
21:38 <PinkTomato> not just the close ones,
21:38 <PinkTomato> so I think you would want to add distance,
21:40 <Flex> anyway, i'll stick with my minimalistic cockpit, thanks! who cares about those info
21:40 <Lizmatic> I glanced at the screen and thought you said mini cock
21:42 <PinkTomato> http://dessert.ath.cx/oatmeal.png
21:42 <PinkTomato> looks like that lucifer
21:42 <Lucifer> oh, I think I vaguely remember him saying he was fooling with that
21:43 * Lucifer thinks the cockpit is the most advanced code in the project right now, heh
21:43 <PinkTomato> I think I'll look into it myself actually :)
21:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Then add more complicated code and add multiple floors to arma!
21:44 <PinkTomato> use one map, have three areas, locked out. Use teleport someone made. Isn't that the same function?
21:44 <Flex> i tried to add that, i never managed it to work, i think it was because of my dtd or version (z-man's 2006 release of 3.0.0 or something)
21:45 <PinkTomato> Wrtl added a new windows build, might work in that if you use windows
21:46 <Flex> yeah, it worked on that. i think
21:46 <Lucifer> is teleport in zones v2?
21:47 <epsy> probably not
21:47 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: do you happen to know if he built it off 0.3.1 or trunk?
21:47 <Lucifer> well, philippe's plan for supporting multiple areas was to use a teleport mechanism
21:47 <PinkTomato> The windows build? afaik, it is the trunk r8697(if memory is right)
21:48 <PinkTomato> or 8967 if that makes more sense
21:48 <PinkTomato> is zones v2 complete?
21:49 <Lucifer> oh, he's building out of svn then
21:49 <Lucifer> zones v2 is complete and in 0.3.1
21:50 <PinkTomato> I tried using the long long example on the wiki, didn't seem to have it
21:50 <@armabot> 0.3.1: dave@davefancella.com r754: Merged from trunk || dave@davefancella.com r753: Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview were rendered in that camview. || dave@davefancella.com r752: Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview were rendered in that camview.
21:50 <Lucifer> hmmm, I could be wrong about it, it may only be partially complete
21:51 <PinkTomato> well the example on the wiki is annyoying, it says this is the code: and then says this is what you need to change to make it work:
21:51 <epsy> @help 0.3.1
21:51 <teabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "0.3.1".
21:52 <PinkTomato> @aawikis zones v2
21:52 <epsy> #help 0.3.1
21:52 <@armabot> epsy: (0.3.1 [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for 0.3.1 at the RSS feed <http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/python/rss.py>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
21:52 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Zones_v2 - Zones v2 - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
21:53 <epsy> I could move armacommits&co to armabot as well
21:54 <Lucifer> epsy: it would be nice to have only one bot reporting this stuff ;)
21:54 <Lucifer> it looks like they're both more or less in sync with what they say
21:54 <epsy> well, it will still report it twice for branches that are synced
21:55 <P4> #si wild sumo
21:55 <@armabot> P4: Crazy Tronners Wild Sumo: Players (5/10): ( (P4@ct), ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~|Alien|~ (alien@ct), ~|DS|~|CruZ|~, ~|DS|~|Hype|~
21:55 <P4> i need respawner! :þ
21:55 <epsy> respawn?
21:55 <P4> come to my team quick! :D
21:55 <P4> `round beggins soon
21:56 <P4> damn, they all left…
21:58 <epsy> @announce
21:58 <teabot> epsy: armacommits, xclanaarepo, armablah, vectroncommits, armaannounce, and tstnews
21:58 <epsy> #announce
21:58 <@armabot> epsy: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:58 <epsy> #rss announce
21:58 <@armabot> epsy: sty+ct, 0.3.1, fts_feedback, lpbugs, and sty
21:59 <epsy> #rss announce armacommits armaannounce armablah
21:59 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:59 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron !!!!! - Game Podunk || I’m Not Going To Stumble On About Idealism « Play Fortress || Armagetron || Registration is now open « Blog Archive « TST » Team Sumo Tournament || the next level « Play Fortress || Twenty-Oh-Eight, the Fortress Year in Review « Play Fortress || Halfbakery: Protron || Ubuntu Linux » Blog Archive » [ubuntu] Armagetron problem || 12.08 club-ubuntu WAN party « a psychopath and a p
21:59 <epsy> @rss announce --remove armacommits armaannounce armablah
21:59 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r754 Merged from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r758 Fixed fake memory leak report (finally!) and hopefully 'make... || [0.3.1] r753 Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview w... || [0.3.1] r752 Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview w... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r757 Automatic merging of commits that would change history order... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r756 F
21:59 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:59 <epsy> guess sty+ct and 0.3.1 feeds are now obsolete
21:59 <epsy> @sty+ct
22:00 <epsy> #sty+ct
22:00 <@armabot> epsy: kyle r648: Adding ADMIN_COMMAND to LadderLog || kyle r647: Adding INVALID_COMMAND to ladderlog || kyle r646: Adding the following Shooting deaths; DEATH_SHOT_FRAG, DEATH_SHOT_SUICIDE, and DEATH_SHOT_TEAMKILL to ladderlog || voodoo r645: add SET_PLAYER_TEAM || Ed Amos r644: voodoo's suggested fix to stop players being selected by their user id. caused problems if a player was named "8" or (5 more messages)
22:00 <epsy> #rss announce --remove sty+ct 0.3.1 sty
22:00 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:01 <epsy> https://code.launchpad.net/~lifeless/pqm/trunk
22:01 <epsy> that's some..clean branch
22:02 <epsy> #list bugtracker
22:02 <@armabot> epsy: Error: 'bugtracker' is not a valid plugin.
22:02 <epsy> @tea
22:02 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:02 <epsy> anyone?
22:03 <epsy> or team sumo also
22:03 <luke-jr> LP is insane
22:03 <luke-jr> how the heck do you add a team?
22:04 <epsy> registereing stuff is always complicated on it, heh
22:04 <luke-jr> I can't find a link!
22:04 <epsy> from the homepage
22:04 <luke-jr> speaking of which, is it possible to give commit access to a repository without a team?
22:04 <epsy> under "Start here"
22:04 <epsy> to a repository?
22:05 <luke-jr> yeah
22:05 <luke-jr> like in my +junk
22:05 <epsy> you can't give commit access to anyone else as yourself in your +junk
22:05 <PinkTomato> zones v2 errors for test file on wiki: http://pastebin.com/d473c065e
22:05 <epsy> and well, that's a branch
22:06 <epsy> and yes, you can, just put it under your "home folder"
22:06 <Lucifer> that pqg looks very interesting
22:06 <epsy> Lucifer, lp:~you/project/branchname
22:06 <epsy> luke-jr,
22:06 <epsy> Lucifer, pqm ?
22:06 <luke-jr> epsy: wtf?
22:06 <Lucifer> yeah, that
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22:06 <Lucifer> luke-jr: anybody can register a branch for the project
22:06 <epsy> the software or the branch? hehe
22:07 <luke-jr> yeah
22:07 <luke-jr> but I mean like havign a central branch
22:07 <epsy> you can still go under your project, click code and click register a branch
22:07 <epsy> it will guide you
22:08 <epsy> (you aren't forced to register a branch before pushing to it, btw)
22:08 <Lucifer> isn't "central branch" a bit of an oxymoron?
22:08 <epsy> :)
22:08 <epsy> Lucifer, call it release branch
22:09 <epsy> a bit like pqm's trunk
22:09 <epsy> (which I am considering for my possibly upcoming arma repo)
22:11 <epsy> @tea
22:11 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:11 <epsy> brmpf
22:11 <epsy> nex
22:13 <Lucifer> oops, I just accidentally deleted the autopackages I'd built, haha
22:14 <PinkTomato> undelete!
22:15 <z-man> Lucifer: You're wrong, I'm quite sure. You can still recover every individual revision from the merged branch.
22:15 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: the ones on my webserver
22:16 <PinkTomato> ah
22:16 <Lucifer> I guess I'll stop the currently building ones, up the alpha number, and build two new ones
22:16 <PinkTomato> you need copies of the old ones though?
22:17 <Lucifer> z-man: I hope not. luke-jr was offering to hand-sync the bzr branch to svn, and I can't think of a more entertaining way to waste his time than that
22:17 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: nah, I'll just throw up a new alpha in an hour or so
22:17 <z-man> I also can't think of a more sure-fire way to mess our repository up.
22:17 <luke-jr> z-man: not that I can tell
22:18 <Lucifer> well, he'd be syncing it to some new place, not to the trunk
22:18 <Lucifer> z-man: hey, have you seen this pqm project epsy just linked us to?
22:20 <Lucifer> checking CXXFLAGS for gcc -nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway... -nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway
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22:23 <z-man> pqm?
22:23 <z-man> oh, come on, why does everybody notice that test?
22:24 <z-man> Also, I really checked. Do a bzr log --show-ids. Pick one revision ID.
22:24 <z-man> Then, to bzr pull --overwrite -r revid:<that ID>.
22:25 <z-man> And you'll get the exact state of the source tree at the time of committing that revision.
22:25 <Lucifer> z-man: everybody notices that test because it's really long in the configure output :)
22:27 <Lucifer> why do I keep getting random build failures? :/
22:27 <epsy> Lucifer, what's with it btw?
22:28 <Lucifer> epsy: I had it fail on the particle library
22:28 <Lucifer> while building the server
22:28 <Lucifer> it hasn't failed on that in a long time
22:29 <Lucifer> tar: armagetronad-armagetronad_alpha_z806_20090106/src/thirdparty/particles/ParticleDLL/ParticleState.cpp: file name is too long (max 99); not dumped
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22:29 <Lucifer> um, why is the tarball being named that?
22:29 <Lucifer> it's supposed to be 0.3.1_alpha2
22:29 <Lucifer> epsy: WHAT DID YOU DO TO IT???
22:29 <Lucifer> ;)
22:32 <z-man> somebody changed minor_version :)
22:32 <z-man> also, that tar error isn't to worry about, I think. Unless it stops there.
22:33 <Lucifer> yes, ti stops there
22:33 <z-man> odd, it never did for me.
22:33 <Lucifer> I changed minor version to .1_alpha2
22:34 <Lucifer> ok, so how am I supposed to configure the version with epsy's new version stuff?
22:34 * Lucifer had a feeling he shouldn't have merged from the trunk
22:35 <luke-jr> XD
22:35 <z-man> Anyway, back to revision history. How is it not saved?
22:35 <z-man> (it's not fully mirrored to svn. Sure. That bit I understand.)
22:35 <luke-jr> z-man: afaik, the merge back to trunk will be a single commit
22:35 <Lucifer> epsy: ping pong
22:36 <z-man> only in svn, and only if it's a single merge.
22:36 <z-man> We can do as many merges as we want.
22:36 <Lucifer> epsy: I have to run off for a bit, please read your backbuffer. ;) make distcheck fails because a file can't get put in because it's too long
22:36 <Lucifer> epsy: I need to be able to set the version number, how do I do that with your new version numbering script?
22:37 <Lucifer> that merge issue doesn't just exist for 0.3.1, though
22:37 <Lucifer> I'm going to branch in a bit when I'm ready for sound engine work, and I'm not going to merge back to the trunk until it's finished(tm)
22:38 * Lucifer still isn't worried about it, but would prefer to have the history from svn moved to bzr somehow
22:38 * Lucifer is ready to give up svn, we've tested bzr a lot. ;)
22:38 <z-man> the other way round, certainly?
22:39 <Lucifer> z-man: no, I mean moving svn history to bzr so we can have our history all in bzr and stop using svn entirely, complete migration
22:39 <Lucifer> completely disowning sourceforge's svn services
22:40 <z-man> Ah, that may be a tad difficult. Impossible even if you want all merges to appear like bzr merges.
22:40 <luke-jr> afaik, svn≥bzr is lossy
22:40 <luke-jr> bzr does not track copies
22:40 <z-man> And svn does not track merges.
22:40 <Lucifer> svn doesn't really do copies, it deletes the file and adds it
22:40 <luke-jr> …
22:40 <luke-jr> svn does do copies
22:41 <Lucifer> we can always wave our hands and say "if you want to know about history before this point, go here"
22:41 <z-man> it doesn't do moves :)
22:41 <Lucifer> which, I guess, it what we're saying
22:41 <Lucifer> oh right, moves, heh
22:41 * Lucifer has to run, bbiab
22:42 <luke-jr> bzr-svn should gain these things over time I think
22:42 <z-man> Well, unlikely. bzr's and svn's feature sets just don't overlap completely.
22:43 <z-man> bzr-svn is doing stuff that's close to magic with the parts that do overlap, but it can't get merges over from svn to bzr for lack of metainformation
22:44 <z-man> I'm leaning towards saying what lucifer said: bzr history starts at point X. svn history stops at point Y > X. If you want anything before X, check SVN. If you want anything after Y, check bzr.
22:45 <z-man> We can get the complete history into bzr if we restart the trunk branch
22:45 <z-man> and if you manage to do some magic to get the bump at point X away that made bzr-svn think our history started there.
22:46 <z-man> (It was philipe deleting EVERYTHING and then copying EVERYTHING to . from one revision ago)
22:46 <z-man> But still, history won't be in one bzr branch like it would be if we had used bzr right from the start.
22:47 <z-man> we'd still have to tell people they have to fetch all the detailed stuff happening in 0.2.8 from the 0.2.8 branch.
22:47 <z-man> (or svn)
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22:58 <Lucifer> grrr
22:58 <PinkTomato> ?
22:59 <Lucifer> wait a minute, did epsy add the bzr stuff? is that what he did to the version script?
23:02 <Lucifer> z-man: just curious, but what was the rational behind having the major_version and minor_version files in the first place?
23:02 <wrtlprnft> z-man: would there theorethically be a way to “backport” 0.3.1 to a svn branch so you could do 0.3.1→trunk merges from both RCS'?
23:03 <z-man> Lucifer: yes, he added the bzr stuff.
23:04 <z-man> And the rationale about the files was that the version was built from them so it didn't have to get hacked into the relevant files.
23:04 <Lucifer> ok, it looks like one of the problems with the naming I'm having is that the directory I have it in isn't named as he expected it to be in the script
23:04 <z-man> The files predate our move to automake.
23:04 <Lucifer> well, I'm wondering why that instead of a single file that gets loaded with the . operator
23:04 <z-man> There was no particular reason for that.
23:04 <Lucifer> right, I remember you wanting to keep those files during that move to keep compatible with a stable branch at the time
23:05 <Lucifer> so, do we have to keep using them now? ;)
23:05 <z-man> wrtlprnft: we're not doing that because merges from both rcses don't mix.
23:05 <z-man> Lucifer: no :)
23:05 <wrtlprnft> that's why i said theorethically
23:05 <z-man> They don't mix even theoretically :)
23:06 <Lucifer> bzr is an antiproton
23:06 <Lucifer> or it mixes antiprotons into its merges, something like that
23:06 <z-man> Lucifer: that is, major_verstion probably needs to stay, or how would we know a build from the trunk should be called?
23:07 <z-man> What we can do is get 0.3.1 into svn and still do all merges in bzr. That would work.
23:07 <Lucifer> I was thinking of pulling the variables listed out of the version script and sticking them into a config file and considering making it so configure can write that file
23:07 <wrtlprnft> grml, i'll have to figure out how to do bzr windows builds anyways
23:07 <Lucifer> z-man: I'm only willing to do *that* if we left it as a chore for luke-jr. ;)
23:07 <wrtlprnft> i liked tortoise?v?, though
23:08 <z-man> Yeah, there's not really such a thing for bzr.
23:08 * z-man anticipates a "why do you hate windows" thread for that any point
23:08 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: hey, can you, whenever you start that, after you run makedist.bat, can you zip up the directories it makes and put them where I can download it?
23:09 <Lucifer> there's a tortoiseBzr, isn't there?
23:09 <z-man> oh, indeed.
23:09 <wrtlprnft> what directories does it make? any besides dist/?
23:09 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: the batch files still don't run in wine's cmd interpreter
23:09 <Lucifer> I don't know
23:09 <Lucifer> I'm tempted to rewrite the batch files in python, except for python.bat of course
23:10 <wrtlprnft> great
23:10 <Lucifer> but first I need to figure out why epsy's bzr stuff doesn't work for me ;)
23:10 <wrtlprnft> to download tortoisebzr you need a working bzr client.
23:10 <z-man> heh :)
23:10 <Lucifer> there's two commandline clients available, one that appears to use py2exe to build and one that installs into python
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23:11 <wrtlprnft> errm, what's so complicated about our bat scripts?
23:11 <Lucifer> nothing, they just don't run in wine's command interpreter
23:11 <Lucifer> they cause a segfault, it's not the fault of the bat scripts, it's the fault of wine
23:11 <wrtlprnft> is it really that bad?
23:11 <Lucifer> well, yes and no, I want to build the game in wine
23:12 <Lucifer> I haven't determined how hard I'm willing to work to do it, so don't put yourself out on my account :)
23:12 <z-man> Umm, by the way, there's another problem with epsy's extensions:
23:12 <z-man> they don't produce proper source tarballs.
23:12 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i haven't got any open windows right now (it's night after all), but i'll do it tomorrow
23:13 <z-man> Well, they do, but the tarball won't build into anything with a correct version.
23:13 <Lucifer> heh
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23:13 <Lucifer> I'm getting a tarball with the name armagetronad-armagetronad_alpha_zSOMENUMBERS
23:13 <wrtlprnft> stupid releases RCS clients and build system should be mandatory for everyone!
23:14 <wrtlprnft> s/releases/releases!/
23:15 <Lucifer> is epsy trying to encode the revision number into the version?
23:16 <wrtlprnft> like we haven't got enough version number digits already
23:17 <Lucifer> hey, we should switch to binary versions
23:17 <Lucifer> so our next release would be 0.11.10
23:17 <Lucifer> which is read aloud as "oh point three point two", of course
23:18 * Lucifer hates shell scripts
23:18 <wrtlprnft> no, please do floating point versions represented as binary
23:18 <Lucifer> any objections to me rewriting all of our shell scripts as python scripts? ;)
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23:19 <Lucifer> but, version numbers are just integers chained together with periods so they look like floats, but aren't really....
23:19 <wrtlprnft> that way we can have as many leading zeroes as we could conceivably want without any additional overhead
23:19 <Lucifer> why don't we just use, say, 3 16-bit binary numbers and chain them together with a byte that contains the ASCII code for the period?
23:19 <wrtlprnft> bah, like we had the resources to get any two-digit number between any two dots
23:20 <Lucifer> the universe would implode when luke-jr and I started arguing that issue
23:20 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: right now you can build a usable version of arma on windows without python
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23:20 <wrtlprnft> it just has to download stuff from the central resource repo on first start
23:20 <Lucifer> well, I want to get all the way to where I can build a distribution with wine
23:21 <Lucifer> and would prefer not to get sidetracked dealing with batch files that don't necessarily have to be batch files
23:21 <Lucifer> or could be supplemented with shell scripts, or whatever
23:22 <wrtlprnft> i've got python, i don't care
23:22 * wrtlprnft still wants to have arma running on cmake one day
23:22 <Lucifer> heh, knock yourself out :)
23:22 <wrtlprnft> probably wouldn't even be too hard if you just dod basic runnable builds
23:22 <Lucifer> I'll support just about any effort to get us the hell off automake right now, but that's probably not a rational position for me to take
23:23 <Lucifer> I got to runnable builds with scons, where I snagged was in installing, uninstalling, and building distributions
23:23 <wrtlprnft> especially since automake is used by only one of the three platforms we support right now
23:23 <Lucifer> we get that stuff for free with automake :/
23:23 <Lucifer> oh yeah, we're in the same place with this, wrtlprnft (hi there!) , just you prefer cmake and I prefer scons, but I'll be happy to work with cmake ;)
23:24 <epsy> as long as we can add a file without summonning 3 other devs..
23:24 <wrtlprnft> hehe
23:24 <epsy> Lucifer, I'm on it
23:24 <wrtlprnft> well, you could in theory edit the windows project, it's not all that hard
23:24 <epsy> copy src/tTrueVersion.h to src/tFakeVersion.h
23:24 <Lucifer> epsy: so I can quit trying to decipher this thing they call a language but really isn't? (bash)
23:24 <wrtlprnft> it's a prettyprinted XML file
23:25 <epsy> and edit the values in there
23:25 <epsy> while I test if it actually works
23:25 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: i have the same feeling with french
23:25 <wrtlprnft> (don't read my last line epsy)
23:25 <Lucifer> heh, now that you mention it, french and bash look very similar
23:25 <epsy> do not bomb me!
23:25 <Lucifer> or is the just an impression because I'm reading bash written by epsy?
23:26 <wrtlprnft> i only complained about the hardness of your language is all
23:26 <epsy> Lucifer, what's so difficult about it?
23:26 * wrtlprnft thinks it's way more difficult to learn than english
23:26 <Lucifer> it's not difficult, it's just largely nonsensical (bash)
23:26 <epsy> bash, not french
23:27 <wrtlprnft> lol
23:27 <Lucifer> it's very much like french in that the most letters are used to express the least amount of thought,
23:27 <Lucifer> while great big thoughts are expressed with a very few letters
23:27 <Lucifer> compare:
23:27 <Lucifer> if test "$tagtype" = Tv;
23:27 <Lucifer> DATE=`echo $tag | sed -e "s,\...\...\...\$,," | sed -e "s,\.,,g"`
23:28 <epsy> I wished I had a bzr metadata or smth function..
23:28 <wrtlprnft> i think the way too many diffent kinds of brackets and their meanings are confusing, although python people are probably used to that
23:28 <epsy> I personally hate parsing stdout..
23:28 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: to protect bash, there's just very little of it in there
23:29 <Lucifer> ? are we about to have a philosophical discussion on what constitutes the "bash language"? ;)
23:29 <wrtlprnft> you can do a surprising amount of stuff in bash without invoking external commands like sed
23:29 <wrtlprnft> even write a web server
23:30 <wrtlprnft> (though it gets more efficient if it contains a single call to netcat)
23:30 <Lucifer> while that's technically true, keep in mind a lot of bash builtins started life as external commands
23:30 <wrtlprnft> most of the stuff one keeps using cat and sed and echo for can done within bash
23:30 <Lucifer> that is true
23:30 <wrtlprnft> err, print i mean
23:31 <Lucifer> in fact, I had a script several years ago that used a lot of sed, and when I removed the sed calls and replaced with bash builtins, it sped up quite a bit
23:31 <wrtlprnft> for example, bash has an (admittedly weird) syntax for replacements that make sed mostly obsolete
23:31 <@armabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Mac - Demo ...
23:31 <Lucifer> for what most people use sed for
23:31 <Lucifer> remembering, of course, that sed is intended to operate on files :)
23:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah, of course
23:32 <Lucifer> so using it to do replacements in variables by chaining together with pipes is kinda bad
23:32 <wrtlprnft> but 99% of the time it gets called with a single line as stdin
23:32 <Lucifer> and is captured as the value of a variable, or stuck in a single line file to be used later ;)
23:32 <wrtlprnft> just saying that it's not bash's fault that people use sed for everything
23:33 <Lucifer> agreeing, completely :)
23:33 <wrtlprnft> anyways
23:33 <wrtlprnft> #night
23:33 <@armabot> Good night wrtlprnft!
23:33 <Lucifer> although, too much reliance on bash means scripts that don't run in certain other shells
23:33 <Lucifer> heh, 'night
23:33 <wrtlprnft> (we'd better stop at the point where we agree)
23:34 <Lucifer> :)
23:41 <epsy> now wtf is this nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway thing?
23:42 <epsy> right, that seems to work
23:44 <epsy> Lucifer, pushed to trunk
23:45 <epsy> blah, typo
23:45 <epsy> too late I guess
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23:49 <K-Yo> I do read it!
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23:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8755 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/Makefile.am): epsy: allow creating src/tFakeVersion.h to override automatic version lable creating
23:55 <z-man> Lucifer: the tar problem is that automake passes the -o option to tar.
23:55 <z-man> which creates an old archive with limitations.
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23:58 <z-man> Apparently, one can change that.
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00:11 <nsh22> #weather
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
00:11 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 28.0°F (6:11 PM EST on January 06, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 28.88 in 977.9 hPa (Falling).
00:11 <nsh22> #g 24.8F to C
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: 24.8 degrees Fahrenheit = -4 degrees Celsius
00:11 <nsh22> #g 28F to C
00:11 <@armabot> nsh22: 28 degrees Fahrenheit = -2.22222222 degrees Celsius
00:12 <nsh22> cest tres froid
00:12 <nsh22> #forecast
00:12 <nsh22> #weather pakistan
00:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:13 <nsh22> #weather kandahar
00:13 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Kandahar, Afghanistan is 35.6°F (2:25 AM AFT on January 07, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
00:13 <nsh22> #weather vancouver
00:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:13 <nsh22> #weather vancouver
00:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:13 <nsh22> #weather vancover
00:14 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:14 <nsh22> #weather victoria
00:14 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
00:14 <nsh22> #weather winnipeg
00:14 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Winnipeg, Manitoba is -0.4°F (5:00 PM CST on January 06, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -7.6°F. Windchill: -16.6°F. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising).
00:14 <nsh22> brrrr
00:14 <nsh22> #g -0.4f in c
00:14 <@armabot> nsh22: (-0.4) degrees Fahrenheit = -18 degrees Celsius
00:14 <nsh22> #g -16.6f in c
00:14 <@armabot> nsh22: (-16.6) degrees Fahrenheit = -27 degrees Celsius
00:15 <nsh22> #g forecast
00:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:15 <nsh22> #g 7 x 7
00:15 <@armabot> nsh22: 7 x 7 = 49
00:15 <nsh22> #g 8^1/2
00:15 <@armabot> nsh22: (8^1) / 2 = 4
00:15 <nsh22> #g 8^1/4
00:15 <@armabot> nsh22: (8^1) / 4 = 2
00:15 <nsh22> #g 9^1/4
00:15 <@armabot> nsh22: (9^1) / 4 = 2.25
00:16 <nsh22> #g 9^ 1/4
00:16 <@armabot> nsh22: (9^1) / 4 = 2.25
00:16 <nsh22> #g 9^(1/4)
00:16 <@armabot> nsh22: 9^(1 / 4) = 1.73205081
00:16 * z-man considers having spammy functions removed from armabot
00:16 <nsh22> lol sry
00:17 <nsh22> #help
00:17 <@armabot> nsh22: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
00:17 <nsh22> #help g
00:17 <@armabot> nsh22: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google calc $*".
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00:17 <nsh22> hey
00:18 <madmax> hi
00:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8756 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
00:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
00:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
00:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-07 Softened limits on filename lenght in tarballs...
00:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: dave@davefancella... 2009-01-06 Merged from trunk
00:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: dave@davefancella... 2009-01-06 Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets...
00:33 <@armabot> armagetronad: dave@davefancella... 2009-01-06 Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets...
00:39 <Lucifer> heh
00:39 <Lucifer> hmmmm
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00:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r760 Merging from 0.3.1:... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Softened limits on filename lenght in tarballs by moving to ... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r759 allow creating src/tFakeVersion.h to override automatic vers... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Merged from trunk || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview w... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Fixed bu
00:42 <nsh22> 0.o
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00:43 <nsh22> hey
00:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/Ball/DBall-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
00:43 <nsh22> lol @ ethan
00:43 <nsh22> wat a noob...
00:43 <PinkTomato> ethan?
00:44 <nsh22> codered
00:44 <nsh22> he is so annoying
00:44 <nsh22> brb
00:44 <nsh22> nvm, still here
00:46 <z-man> Lucifer: that should fix the tarball problem.
00:47 <z-man> I'm still working on getting the version info in builds FROM the resulting tarball right, epsy has done some preparation work there.
00:47 <z-man> All one needs to do is pack tFakeVersion.h into the tarball.
00:47 <z-man> However, I'm going to lose net anytime soon :)
00:48 <z-man> It's connected to the TV, and my mother in law is going to turn that off.
00:48 <z-man> So I don't know whether the fix will make it in today.
00:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/Ball/dodgeball2-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
00:48 <Lucifer> epsy said he'd finished the work, I thought
00:49 <nsh22> how is your net connected to a tv?
00:49 <Lucifer> nsh22: usually with a cable
00:49 <nsh22> oh, so the monitor is being displayed on the tv
00:50 <z-man> Well, right now, there's an error in make dist that gets swallowed
00:51 <Lucifer> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/dave/Projects/armagetronad/build/src/".
00:52 <Lucifer> several errors of that type
00:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/Fortress/Fortress-1.0.0.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
00:53 <Lucifer> I really hate waiting for email
00:53 <nsh22> hmmm i wonder how you integrate the settings into the map...
00:53 <Lucifer> nsh22: you don't
00:53 <Lucifer> you *can*, but you shouldn't
00:53 <nsh22> oh ok
00:54 <nsh22> i just saw the settings thing on the preview
00:54 <Lucifer> ah
00:54 <Lucifer> that's there to allow for things to be put in the map that currently exist as settings, that haven't yet been turned into map elements
00:55 <Lucifer> but there's serious potential for abuse
00:55 <nsh22> ill jsut put it in autoexec :P
00:55 <Lucifer> is it on a dedicated server?
00:56 <nsh22> ya
00:56 <nsh22> on a host you mean?
00:56 <Lucifer> ?
00:56 <nsh22> nvm
00:56 <Lucifer> no, I mean is it running the dedicated server software, or are you saying "Host Game" in the client
00:57 <nsh22> is there a way so that the server doesnt terminate connections if you input a wrong map_file?
00:57 <Lucifer> nope
00:57 <nsh22> ok
00:57 <Lucifer> generally speaking, there isn't a way to recover from that
00:57 <nsh22> ok, so i have to change it in the configs...
00:58 <Lucifer> now, some day, we'll have a new config system where we might be able to track previous config values and revert the map setting in that case
00:58 <nsh22> like a fail safe?
00:58 <Lucifer> yeah
00:58 <nsh22> ok
00:58 <Lucifer> but we don't have it now ;)
00:58 <nsh22> aw
00:58 <Lucifer> hey, patches welcome :)
00:58 <nsh22> so is 0.3 a pretty big change from 2.8?
00:58 <Lucifer> yes
00:58 <Lucifer> 0.3.1 even more so, when it comes out
00:58 <PinkTomato> what about server-side?
00:59 <Lucifer> (soon, epsy keeps breaking it, heh)
00:59 <nsh22> im not good with programming, i cant even complie the sty patch
00:59 <nsh22> lol
00:59 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: what about server-side?
00:59 <Lucifer> oh, right, ummm
00:59 <Lucifer> 0.3.0 didn't change much on the server from the current 0.2.8 release when it came out
00:59 <Lucifer> 0.3.1 has lots of changes that are server-side as well
01:00 <nsh22> will it crash servers?
01:00 <PinkTomato> nsh22: what one?
01:00 <nsh22> liek as of now?
01:00 <nsh22> 0.3
01:00 <Lucifer> the rule is simple. If you're worried about crashes, run the latest 0.2.8 version
01:00 <nsh22> ok
01:01 <Lucifer> all 0.3 releases are development releases, inherently unstable and released so they can be tested
01:01 <Lucifer> so there's a bit of a tradeoff
01:01 <nsh22> ok
01:01 <Lucifer> since the new features are in 0.3, you can decide whether you want to participate in the development process, or have stable software
01:01 <Lucifer> but you really can't choose both ;)
01:02 <Lucifer> actually you can, but you'd have to run multiple versions
01:02 <Lucifer> (some people run 0.2.8 servers for stability, and then keep up to date with the trunk so they can play with new features)
01:02 <nsh22> a fail safe setting shouldnt be too hard, just do INCLUDE failsafe.cfg if MAP_FILE does not exist
01:02 <nsh22> failsafe haviong a safe map_file
01:03 <nsh22> but that would be getting into the source programming now wouldnt it?
01:03 <Lucifer> there are plenty of logical solutions that can't be coded in the current config loading arch
01:03 <Lucifer> well, you are talking to a programmer ;)
01:03 <PinkTomato> A production server shouldn't be loading invalid map files anyway ;)
01:03 <Lucifer> also, there are issues with when the map file is actually parsed
01:04 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that's true, but it's annoying to test your MAP_FILE setting when the server crashes if its wrong
01:04 <nsh22> ya it is 0.o im doing it right now
01:05 <PinkTomato> hmm, true. I think the map validator was ported to PHP
01:05 <nsh22> i have to go in, restart my server to load the new autoexec bbecause its stupid and wont do it itself
01:05 <nsh22> its the path i put in, i spelled sumthing wrong
01:06 <Lucifer> oh crap
01:06 <nsh22> i keep putting fortess instaed of fortress
01:06 <Lucifer> #quote add i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22
01:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded. Quote #85 added.
01:06 <nsh22> ?
01:06 <Lucifer> #quote get 85
01:06 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
01:06 <nsh22> what r u doing?
01:06 <PinkTomato> hehe
01:07 <Lucifer> oh yeah, be prepared to have some stupid thing you might say here added to our quote library so can laugh at it at our convenience
01:07 <ct|kyle> #quote get 69
01:07 <nsh22> oh ok
01:07 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #69: "gentoo ebuild is as broken as luke-jr himself :D ~xfroggy" (added by ct|kyle at 06:23 PM, January 26, 2008)
01:07 <nsh22> i dont care about that
01:07 <nsh22> lol
01:07 <Lucifer> #q
01:07 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #67: "browser? like xp, vista, mac? stuff like that? cause i have a vista~Neutrino" (added by ct|kyle at 04:29 AM, December 27, 2007)
01:08 <nsh22> haha
01:08 <nsh22> wherer do u see all the ones saved?
01:08 <Lucifer> someone should give Neutrino a copy of emacs
01:08 <ct|kyle> heh
01:08 <Lucifer> you can't read them all on one page, but you are welcome to /msg armabot and read them one by one
01:08 <nsh22> oh ok
01:08 <Lucifer> right before the new year started, we went through trying to find all the 2008 quotes
01:08 <nsh22> ffs my server still wont load it...
01:08 <nsh22> lol
01:09 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8757 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/Makefile.am): Manuel Moos: Create tTrueVersion.h in build, not source directory.
01:09 <ct|kyle> you will have to do #quote get #armagetron 1....99
01:09 <PinkTomato> nsh22: stick it in a pastebin and I'll take a look
01:09 <nsh22> a what?
01:09 * PinkTomato points to topic :)
01:10 <nsh22> FFS i didnt capitalize something
01:10 <Lucifer> that's no surprise
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01:10 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8758 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. Makefile.am): Manuel Moos: Create source tarballs with tFakeVersion.h so the extended version info included in builds is correct.
01:10 <nsh22> for next release, dont make it case sensitive (i know its stupid to ask that)
01:11 <Lucifer> it has been my observation that people who abbreviate small words like "your" and "to" have great difficulty typing a working MAP_FILE argument
01:11 <Lucifer> it's not stupid to ask for that, it just isn't happening
01:11 <nsh22> i can usually type it right, cuz i usually dont use caps
01:11 <Lucifer> Linux has case sensitive file names, and we can't change that, we must support it
01:11 <nsh22> pft...linux lol
01:11 <nsh22> is tron based onlinux?
01:12 <Lucifer> 99.999% of the development is done in linux
01:12 <Lucifer> so pffft right back at you
01:12 <nsh22> ol ok
01:12 <PinkTomato> + like 50% of people here use it regularly if not more ;)
01:12 <BabyBug> 99.998%* Lucifer!
01:12 <nsh22> see, i know near nothing of programming and development
01:12 <Lucifer> that's obvious :)
01:12 <nsh22> ty
01:13 <PinkTomato> it's fun to try, just don't look at arma code when your stating out ;)
01:13 <K-Yo> blah
01:14 <nsh22> y not?
01:14 <Lucifer> please tell me make distcheck is about to be finished
01:14 <Lucifer> nsh22: because you might go blind
01:14 <nsh22> lol
01:14 <K-Yo> lumake distcheck is about to be finished
01:14 <K-Yo> Lucifer, make distcheck is about to be finished
01:14 <Lucifer> oh goodie! Then I can get back to building autopackages :)
01:15 <K-Yo> Lucifer, whatever!
01:15 <PinkTomato> :(
01:15 <Lucifer> you know, for the 0.0000000001% of the world that uses linux
01:15 <nsh22> lol
01:16 <Lucifer> well, it worked, but it's still a screwy version thing epsy stuck me with
01:17 <nsh22> ok, now im mad
01:17 <Lucifer> man, epsy's version script doesn't work at all
01:18 <Lucifer> where's epsy when I want to bitch at him? :(
01:18 <nsh22> i copied directly from the preview and it still died
01:18 <nsh22> lol
01:18 <Lucifer> maybe your setting is correct, but the map file itself is broken?
01:18 <K-Yo> nsh22, boo
01:18 <nsh22> i doubt it
01:19 <nsh22> nvm, i dont doubt it
01:19 <PinkTomato> nsh22: http://rafb.net/paste/ copy paste it in there, and pass the link.
01:19 <nsh22> i made it in armabell, change te resource system and all the resource info
01:19 <Lucifer> heh, armabell
01:19 <nsh22> u want me to paste the code in there?
01:19 * Lucifer considers starting work on acme again
01:20 <PinkTomato> the XML for the MAP_FILE
01:20 <nsh22> kk
01:20 <K-Yo> nsh22, quote from BabyBug " paste it in there"
01:20 <PinkTomato> what was ACME?
01:20 <nsh22> whats acme?
01:20 <BabyBug> K-Yo?
01:20 <K-Yo> BabyBug, oops, wrong name :P
01:20 <K-Yo> sry
01:20 <Lucifer> it's the Armagetron Advanced Resource Editor that I haven't worked on in a couple of years
01:20 <BabyBug> *slap* :P
01:21 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: was it complete :)?
01:21 <Lucifer> no :)
01:21 <nsh22> http://rafb.net/p/dBmWu973.html
01:21 <PinkTomato> hoop started a map editior too
01:21 <K-Yo> vectron
01:21 <Lucifer> I'll work on it again after 0.3.1 is out, I'll need it for the resource work I'll be doing then
01:21 <Lucifer> yeah, acme isn't just a map editor, it's for all resources
01:21 <nsh22> armabell has worked for e before. i dunno why its maessed up
01:21 <PinkTomato> Oh I see
01:22 <PinkTomato> I don't want to criticise armabell, as it's all we got.
01:22 <Lucifer> then allow me :)
01:22 <nsh22> lol
01:22 <nsh22> haha
01:23 <Lucifer> there was a previous version of acme that worked, but never got updated to the new map format
01:23 <Lucifer> had it been updated, armabell wouldn't have been needed
01:23 <nsh22> pink, did u look at the code?
01:23 <Lucifer> see, the thing with armabell is that it's closed source, so when it doesn't work, there ain't jack you can do about it
01:23 <nsh22> why cant you do anything? its just an xml
01:23 <Lucifer> the developer lost the code (one of the risks of keeping it to yourself!), so it *can't* be fixed anymore
01:24 <Lucifer> what's just an xml?
01:24 <K-Yo> data:image/svg+xml;base64,PD94bWwgdmVyc2lvbj0iMS4wIiBlbmNvZGluZz0iVVRGLTgiPz48IURPQ1RZUEUgc3ZnIFBVQkxJQyAiLS8vVzNDLy9EVEQgU1ZHIDEuMS8vRU4iICJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy9HcmFwaGljcy9TVkcvMS4xL0RURC9zdmcxMS1iYXNpYy5kdGQiPjxzdmcgeG1sbnM9Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cudzMub3JnLzIwMDAvc3ZnIiB2aWV3Qm94PSIzNjMgMjY3IDM2MiA1MzgiIHdpZHRoPSIxMjgwcHgiIGhlaWdodD0iNjEwcHgiPjxkZWZzPjxtYXJrZXIgaWQ9InNwYXduIiBtYXJrZXJXaWR0aD0iMzAiIG1hcmtlckhlaWdodD0iNDAiIHJlZlg9IjIiIHJlZlk9IjE1IiBvcmllbn
01:24 <Lucifer> what is "an xml"?
01:24 <K-Yo> Q9ImF1dG8iIHZpZXdCb3g9IjAgMCA0MCAzMCI+PHBhdGggZD0iTSAtNSwwIC01LDIwIC0xNSwyMCAwLDQwIDE1LDIwIDUsMjAgNSwwIFoiIGZpbGw9InJlZCIgdHJhbnNmb3JtPSJ0cmFuc2xhdGUoMCwgMTUpIHJvdGF0ZSgtOTApIi8+PC9tYXJrZXI+PC9kZWZzPjxyZWN0IHg9IjM2MyIgeT0iMjY3IiB3aWR0aD0iMzYyIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjUzOCIgZmlsbD0id2hpdGUiLz48cG9seWxpbmUgcG9pbnRzPSIzNjgsMjcyIDM2OCw4MDAgNzIwLDgwMCA3MjAsMjcyIDM2OCwyNzIiIHN0cm9rZT0iYmxhY2siIHN0cm9rZS13aWR0aD0iMiIgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIvPjxjaXJjbGUgcj0iNTAiIGN4PSI1NDQiIGN5PS
01:24 <K-Yo> I3MzYiIHN0cm9rZT0iI2ZmYTUwMCIgb3BhY2l0eT0iMSIgc3Ryb2tlLXdpZHRoPSIyIiBmaWxsPSJub25lIi8+PGNpcmNsZSByPSI1MCIgY3g9IjU0NCIgY3k9IjMzNiIgc3Ryb2tlPSIjZmZhNTAwIiBvcGFjaXR5PSIxIiBzdHJva2Utd2lkdGg9IjIiIGZpbGw9Im5vbmUiLz48cGF0aCBtYXJrZXItZW5kPSJ1cmwoI3NwYXduKSIgc3Ryb2tlLXdpZHRoPSIuNSIgc3Ryb2tlPSJyZWQiIGQ9Ik0gMCAwIDAgMSIgdHJhbnNmb3JtPSJ0cmFuc2xhdGUoNTQ0LCAzMzYpIHNjYWxlKDEsIC0xKSByb3RhdGUoLTkwKSBtYXRyaXgoMCwgLTEsIDEsIDAsIDAsIDApIi8+PHBhdGggbWFya2VyLWVuZD0idXJsKCNzcG
01:24 <K-Yo> F3bikiIHN0cm9rZS13aWR0aD0iLjUiIHN0cm9rZT0icmVkIiBkPSJNIDAgMCAwIDEiIHRyYW5zZm9ybT0idHJhbnNsYXRlKDU0NCwgNzM2KSBzY2FsZSgxLCAtMSkgcm90YXRlKC05MCkgbWF0cml4KDAsIDEsIC0xLCAwLCAwLCAwKSIvPjwvc3ZnPg==
01:24 <PinkTomato> yeah :(.
01:24 <K-Yo> oops
01:24 <K-Yo> that's the map previex
01:24 <Lucifer> #kick K-yo wrong window
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01:24 <nsh22> the file made by armaell to make the maps
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01:24 <Lucifer> I'm talking about armabell itself, not its output
01:24 <K-Yo> Lucifer, no, right one
01:24 <nsh22> oh ok
01:25 <PinkTomato> nsh22: I'm looking now
01:25 <Lucifer> sorry K-yo, I was already in motion when you spoke up, couldn't abort
01:25 <Lucifer> but in the future, please use a pastebin for that sort of big paste :)
01:25 <nsh22> what is it?
01:25 <K-Yo> Lucifer, hahaha, np
01:25 <PinkTomato> its an image
01:25 <nsh22> oh
01:26 <K-Yo> Lucifer, it was in the adress bar, I thoug it'd be shorter
01:26 <K-Yo> nsh22, the preview of you map
01:26 <K-Yo> (who is working)
01:26 <nsh22> oh
01:26 <nsh22> do u guys want the link to the preview?
01:26 <Lucifer> no, we want to read error messages
01:26 <K-Yo> "want"
01:26 <Lucifer> if we can't read your error messages, we can't help you
01:27 <nsh22> ok
01:27 <Lucifer> we want to read all of them, IN A PASTEBIN
01:27 <nsh22> the error message was 404:the file cannot be found
01:27 <K-Yo> nsh22, woot
01:27 <nsh22> ill go check the logs
01:27 <K-Yo> nsh22, is it in the aa resource repository?
01:27 <nsh22> yes
01:28 <nsh22> under neal/fort
01:28 <K-Yo> #last --from=armabot --with=neal
01:28 <@armabot> K-Yo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
01:29 <PinkTomato> only problem you have there is that the category is Fortress, so needs to be in the Fortress folder?
01:29 <K-Yo> author="neal" category="Fortress"
01:29 <K-Yo> yes
01:29 <nsh22> it is, oops, i just realized i abreviated it in here
01:29 <nsh22> <Resource type="aamap" name="Fortress" version="1.0.0" author="neal" category="Fortress">
01:30 <Lucifer> so....
01:30 <Lucifer> neal/Fortress/Fortress-1.0.0.aamap.xml ?
01:30 <nsh22> ya
01:30 * Lucifer points out we still haven't read any actual error messages, we've only been told what the error is
01:31 <PinkTomato> thats because there is no error
01:32 <Lucifer> ? he said there's a 404 error and the map isn't loading
01:32 <PinkTomato> MAP_FILE neal/Fortress/Fortress-1.0.0.aamap.xml
01:32 <Lucifer> and the server keeps crashing
01:32 <PinkTomato> loads here
01:32 <nsh22> im getting the logs...
01:32 <K-Yo> nsh22, you did not change the resource adress?
01:32 <K-Yo> .cfg2 resource
01:33 <K-Yo> #cfg resource
01:33 <@armabot> K-Yo: RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_CLIENT: URI the client uses to search for map files if they aren't stored locally. Better leave it alone (default: http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/) || RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_SERVER: URI clients and the server use to search for map files if they aren't stored locally (default: http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/)
01:33 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: indeed, the reason we want to read error messages is so we can see what he actually put in for the address :)
01:33 <nsh22> http://pastebin.com/d518dabb7
01:33 <K-Yo> cycle_BRAKE
01:33 <K-Yo> not brakes
01:33 <K-Yo> same for deplete
01:33 <nsh22> ok, but that wouldnt cause it to crash
01:33 <PinkTomato> MAP_FILE neal/Fortress/Fortress.1.0.0.aamap.xml
01:33 <nsh22> i realised that when i saw it
01:34 <Lucifer> ah, PinkTomato (hi there!) beat me to it
01:34 <Lucifer> wtf is with all the brake messages?
01:34 <PinkTomato> you were close, at least it wasn't the wrong case. MAP_FILE neal/Fortress/Fortress-1.0.0.aamap.xml. note the - between the name and version :)
01:34 <nsh22> fik, is it that one .
01:34 <nsh22> the "-"?
01:35 <PinkTomato> that's all it was
01:35 <K-Yo> yep
01:35 <K-Yo> http://master.resource.aa.dashjr.org/resource/neal/Fortress/Fortress-1.0.0.aamap.xml
01:35 <K-Yo> well
01:35 <nsh22> ive uploaded other maps with the- and it didnt crash
01:35 <K-Yo> time to sleep for me
01:36 <K-Yo> later ;)
01:36 <PinkTomato> later :)
01:36 <nsh22> later :)
01:36 <Lucifer> no, you're MISSING the -
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01:36 <Lucifer> you have a . in place of the -
01:36 <nsh22> oh, i must of done that in-game
01:37 <nsh22> my utoexec file is correct then
01:37 <Lucifer> #
01:37 <Lucifer> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:56681.
01:37 <nsh22> here the autoexec http://pastebin.com/d31b2ea59
01:37 <Lucifer> when the error message appears before that line, it means your config file is wrong
01:37 <nsh22> ok
01:38 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: any idea why neal is using this: Command WEB_USE_INTERNAL unknown.
01:38 <nsh22> so thats what it is?
01:38 <nsh22> i am?
01:38 <nsh22> where is that file?
01:38 <Lucifer> he has to be running 0.3 if he's got that in there
01:39 <Lucifer> er wait
01:39 <PinkTomato> that should be settings_custom.cfg
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01:39 <nsh22> im checking now
01:39 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that setting is only in 0.3.0, so he must have gotten a config file that he's editing from 0.3.0
01:39 <Lucifer> in all likelihood, PinkTomato (hi there!) , he's probably got a borked server installation anyway
01:39 <nsh22> http://pastebin.com/d7e951969 thats the settings_custom
01:40 <nsh22> so the installation is fooked on it?
01:40 <Lucifer> you should really put the server name and talk_to_master in server_info.cfg
01:40 <nsh22> i left admin pass out of the paste bin,
01:40 <PinkTomato> ;)
01:40 <Lucifer> that should also be in server_info.cfg
01:41 <nsh22> ok, but does it matter?
01:41 <Lucifer> well, yeah, you can't paste your entire settings_custom.cfg file
01:41 <Lucifer> unless you can do that, there's a certain amount of support you can't get, because it is oftentimes necessary to see exactly what you see
01:41 <Lucifer> but we can't do that if you have to redact stuff
01:41 <nsh22> i can change it to the server_info
01:41 <Lucifer> the *reason* there's a separate server_info.cfg file is so you can put private, server-specific config in it
01:42 <nsh22> oh
01:42 <Lucifer> and it is loaded before the gameplay settings are initialized, so you *can't* put gameplay config in it, you need to put that in settings_custom.cfg
01:42 <Lucifer> clearly you didn't read the wiki page :)
01:42 <nsh22> lol
01:42 <nsh22> i think i read some of it....
01:43 <PinkTomato> Still dosen't explain the loads of cycle_brakes unknown
01:43 <Lucifer> well, I didn't write that page just so I can sit here in irc and tell people what's on it :)
01:43 <nsh22> ya, i d ont know where thats coming from
01:43 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that's why I think he's got a borked installation, it almost looks like there's some sort of looped config file loading going on
01:43 <Lucifer> what's in your everytime.cfg ?
01:44 <nsh22> there isnt any 0.o
01:44 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: well that and obvious technical incompetence :)
01:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r762 Create source tarballs with tFakeVersion.h so the extended v... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r761 Create tTrueVersion.h in build, not source directory....
01:44 <PinkTomato> and your settings.cfg while your at it :)
01:44 <nsh22> its a new hoster, who got some guy to host arma servers
01:44 <nsh22> codehunter got him o do it
01:44 <Lucifer> which guy?
01:44 <Lucifer> oh, nvm then
01:44 <PinkTomato> Ah.
01:44 <Lucifer> I'm done talking to you :)
01:44 <nsh22> lol ok
01:45 <Lucifer> (codehunter is a known idiot around here, your best bet is to avoid anything he's near)
01:45 <PinkTomato> is that VcL Program?
01:45 <nsh22> see, i didnt know that
01:45 <nsh22> ya its vcl
01:45 <nsh22> im neal on lagtest
01:45 <nsh22> fyi
01:45 <PinkTomato> I gathered from yesterday and MAP_FILE :)
01:45 <nsh22> ?
01:46 <PinkTomato> MAP_FILE neal/Fortress etc etc
01:46 <nsh22> oh
01:46 <PinkTomato> He was a little rude to luke-jr
01:46 <nsh22> so i should find a new host?
01:46 <nsh22> ya he was
01:47 <nsh22> i might go with luke afte all
01:47 <Lucifer> did he come in here as codehunter?
01:47 <PinkTomato> If he works for that company he should be careful.
01:47 <Lucifer> yeah, luke's your best bet if you can't host it yourself
01:47 <nsh22> ok
01:47 <nsh22> well, u saw my thing about the non *'ed pass didnt you??
01:47 <PinkTomato> you can't insult luke-jr servers without backing it up if your part of a company
01:48 <nsh22> i odont think hes paart of dragonservers
01:48 <Lucifer> really, you can't insult luke-jr servers unless your an arma developer anyway, and we can only do that because he's fun to pick on ;)
01:48 <nsh22> lol
01:48 <PinkTomato> Ah I see, the post reads like an advertisement
01:48 <PinkTomato> lol Lucifer :)
01:48 <nsh22> so you think he is involved wioth dragon servers?
01:48 <Lucifer> which post are you reading?
01:49 <nsh22> on lagtest
01:49 <PinkTomato> http://www.lagtest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2242
01:49 <nsh22> ill post a link
01:49 <Lucifer> ah, I'm not a member
01:49 <nsh22> http://www.lagtest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2242
01:49 <nsh22> thenbecome one lol
01:49 <PinkTomato> Oh yeah, that bugs me
01:49 <nsh22> what does
01:50 <PinkTomato> Forums should be open to read
01:50 <Lucifer> I don't become members of forums that are members-only for most of their content
01:50 <nsh22> at least the news ones anyway
01:50 <nsh22> they arnt i dont think
01:50 <nsh22> most of it is open to others
01:50 <PinkTomato> log out and click the link ;)
01:50 <Lucifer> well, that link led to a login prompt
01:50 <nsh22> oh you mean registered (i thought u meant clan member) my bad
01:51 <PinkTomato> All that happens is that it ends up with loads and loads of members that only want to read
01:51 <Lucifer> member of the forums, heh
01:51 <nsh22> ill paste bin the first post
01:51 <Lucifer> well, see, the way I figure it, we put all of this arma content out there with no such restrictions
01:51 <Lucifer> the only members-only forums we have are for server admins and developers, and we discourage use unless privacy actually matters
01:52 <Lucifer> I really think that other people in the community need to adopt this attitude as well
01:52 <nsh22> http://pastebin.com/d3f7dd2db
01:52 <nsh22> for the RCON pass when i signed up, it wasnt *'ed
01:52 <Lucifer> now, I can't object to the WW forums as they are, because ww really gives back to the community with the servers they run
01:52 <nsh22> ya
01:52 <Lucifer> but if you recall codehunter's first experience with this community, he was leaching, plain and simple
01:52 <PinkTomato> whats an RCON password?
01:52 <nsh22> unfortunately, there are others who dont think that in our community
01:53 <nsh22> what you use to get on control panel
01:53 <nsh22> see, i dont know alot about code hunter so...
01:53 <Lucifer> that is an advertisement
01:54 <nsh22> hmmm
01:54 <nsh22> and i take it there is no way of getting a refund....
01:54 <PinkTomato> 7-fay refund law?
01:54 <Lucifer> We noticed that the .3 version of the server is a bit buggy and we had some issues when setting it up, So we will only be offering the stable version (.2.8.2.1) until a full release is made of the .3 beta version released by Z-Man. <--- don't trust anybody who thinks z-man is the only developer :)
01:54 <PinkTomato> Or did I just make that up?
01:55 <PinkTomato> That bugged me too :)
01:55 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: you just made it up, wtf is a fay anyway?
01:55 <PinkTomato> day*
01:55 <nsh22> well at least it only cost me $12CAN
01:55 <Lucifer> oh it gets worse
01:55 <Lucifer> see, we corrected him when he first showed up, and that was a couple of years ago
01:55 <PinkTomato> live.com email contact?
01:55 <Lucifer> so he doesn't have any excuses now, except that he's NAME-DROPPING
01:55 <Lucifer> and I don't trust people who name-drop :)
01:55 <nsh22> so i should get rid of my server and go with luke?
01:56 <Lucifer> right luke-jr (hi there!) ?
01:56 <Lucifer> yes, absolutely
01:56 <nsh22> ok
01:56 <Lucifer> well, get your money's worth for what you've paid, of course
01:56 <nsh22> ill do that
01:56 <PinkTomato> yeah, keep the month
01:56 <nsh22> well i dont want to pay for two montsh so...
01:56 <PinkTomato> it's not completely useless
01:57 <nsh22> the admin was good about getting my username (i had forgotton it for the cp)
01:57 <Lucifer> luke-jr's servers may look more expensive than codehunter's, but I think we can all agree that luke-jr's servers are going to be less expensive when you consider how much service *you* get for it (no, I'm not advertising)
01:57 <PinkTomato> What really bugged me is when he said that luke-jr servers had low disc space and low bandwidth
01:57 <nsh22> wait, i have a good 1 as well...
01:57 <PinkTomato> I can't see how they could even try to back that up
01:58 <Lucifer> the problem is, he's technically correct
01:58 <nsh22> quote;Were you ever a customer of Luke's? If you were you would know that the servers are not worth a d*mn
01:58 <Lucifer> luke-jr's servers have limited bandwidth and disk space
01:58 <Lucifer> but so do codehunter's :)
01:58 <Lucifer> so do mine, so does everybody
01:58 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
01:59 <Lucifer> nsh22: last I heard, luke had a server with the same company that wrtlprnft (hi there!) went with for Fort Cafe
01:59 <nsh22> lol pinktomatoe goes on abou t authentication
02:00 <PinkTomato> what access do you have nsh22?
02:00 <PinkTomato> ftp?
02:00 <Lucifer> finaly, don't buy any internet service from somebody who talks about a web link like it can do more than refer to a file
02:00 <nsh22> ?
02:01 <nsh22> the ftp is weird, it wouldnt sign on, it didnt exist...
02:01 <Flex> luke-jr had/has a really good UK server, some slight hikups with lag, but overal it was good. reached pings as low as 12ms..
02:01 <nsh22> are they all in uk?
02:01 <PinkTomato> they are the top of my list ;)
02:01 <PinkTomato> No all over the place
02:02 <Lucifer> luke-jr: come here and sell yourself, we're getting tired of doing it for you :)
02:02 <Lucifer> I think he's got a server in europe and one in the US (Texas, iirc)
02:02 <Lucifer> I don't know more than that
02:02 <nsh22> ok
02:02 <PinkTomato> and another in the east coast
02:02 <nsh22> ill sign up for his at the end of the month
02:02 <Flex> i believe the jumps was because of the way it was all networked.. or something, i don't know
02:03 <Flex> if it was a stand alone dedicated server, on that line it would of been perfect
02:03 <nsh22> luke jrs servers are 0.88 for first three months only :(
02:03 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, have you still got the alpha1 package installed?
02:03 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: which one?
02:03 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, ermm...the one ending in _alpha1.. =x
02:04 <PinkTomato> I uninstalled it, but I still have it
02:04 <BabyBug> Were you able to join Fortress Cafe when you had it installed?
02:04 <PinkTomato> No
02:04 <PinkTomato> Oh Lucifer
02:04 <PinkTomato> I couldn't get to fortress either, forgot to say
02:04 <BabyBug> ^^
02:04 <Lucifer> yeah, I heard something about that, but haven't seen any error messages I could read for myself yet ;)
02:05 <BabyBug> Lucifer, does the console get logged somewhere...So it can be pastebinned?
02:05 <Lucifer> hmmmm, I think there's an option to do that, but I don't remember what it is
02:05 <Lucifer> I'll look into it, if there is, I'll make it default for these alpha builds
02:06 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: is there a way i can make sure HTML code has no CSS style even if the tags have a style by default?
02:06 <Lucifer> too late for the packages I'm building right now, but they've got bad version stamps anyway
02:06 <PinkTomato> nsh22: it says if longer if I can afford it ;)
02:06 <nsh22> ya
02:06 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: not that I know of
02:06 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: some attributes can be cleared, I know that
02:06 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: isn't there something in the var folder?
02:06 * nsh22 is hungry
02:07 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: but you don't want to do that anyway, it causes problems for disabled users ;)
02:07 <ct|kyle> it is a firefox issue, works in konqueror
02:08 <BabyBug> Lucifer, when joining cafe: http://rafb.net/p/Tn7Gyx91.html
02:08 <BabyBug> i'll check PinkTomato
02:08 <PinkTomato> There isn't just checked, :). where did you get that from though?
02:09 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, I ran it from the terminal, and it outputted everything there aswell :)
02:09 <PinkTomato> ah yeah :)
02:09 <nsh22> is PSpad a good editor?
02:10 <PinkTomato> notepadd++ for windows is suggested by me
02:10 <nsh22> free?
02:10 <PinkTomato> no double d, it is free.
02:10 <BabyBug> #g notepad++
02:10 <@armabot> BabyBug: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
02:10 <BabyBug> oops =x
02:10 <BabyBug> #google notepad++
02:10 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.17 seconds: .:: NOTEPAD++ ::.: <http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/>; SourceForge.net: Notepad++: <http://sourceforge.net/projects/notepad-plus/>; SourceForge.net: Notepad++ : Files: <http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=95717&package_id=102072>; Notepad++ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notepad%2B%2B>; Download (2 more messages)
02:10 <BabyBug> \o/
02:10 <nsh22> ty
02:10 <PinkTomato> the website is a little.. odd
02:11 <PinkTomato> but the program follows decent conventions when you make the title bar appear :)
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02:13 <nsh22> can it compile?
02:13 <PinkTomato> nsh22: are you after an IDE?
02:13 <nsh22> ?? i want to compile the sty patch if that helps
02:14 <PinkTomato> then you don't want notepad++ :)
02:14 <PinkTomato> would you rather have a pre-compiled version?
02:14 <nsh22> yes plz
02:14 <nsh22> lo
02:14 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, is there a pre-compiled windows version? O.o
02:15 <PinkTomato> Infamous compuled one
02:15 <PinkTomato> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18923&start=30
02:15 <BabyBug> ahh ^^
02:15 <PinkTomato> so thank them, not me ;)
02:16 <nsh22> so what do i do with it?
02:17 <PinkTomato> it's an installer :
02:17 <PinkTomato> :)
02:17 <PinkTomato> so you install it :)
02:17 <SageLord> PinkTomato: does your team sumo server still have max 3 players per team?
02:18 <nsh22> so ow do i play it, uts a dedicated server
02:18 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: If it crashed and restarted it dosen't, I never committed the change. It was supposed to be temporary anyway, when I change to the csv settings from tst.
02:18 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, ? O.o
02:18 <nsh22> i found it
02:19 <PinkTomato> nsh22: Are you trying to get this running on NEAL's TEST SERVER.
02:19 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, did you mean to highlight SageLord there? :P
02:19 <SageLord> BabyBug: i think me :p
02:19 <BabyBug> ^^
02:19 <nsh22> well, no wid be satisfied with a local game
02:19 <nsh22> now id*
02:20 <nsh22> i found a game on the lan? its that it?
02:20 <PinkTomato> I meant SageLord sorry :). You are the same name colour as BabyBug , confuses me
02:20 <SageLord> Oo
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02:20 <nsh22> pinktomato i found a game on the lan? its that it?
02:20 <BugBaby> Different colour now? :D
02:21 <PinkTomato> yeah :D
02:21 <BugBaby> \o/
02:21 <SageLord> how do you change colors? Oo
02:21 <nsh22> ok
02:21 <PinkTomato> wait nsh22, that was to BugBaby
02:21 <BugBaby> SageLord, his client just colours everyones name
02:21 <PinkTomato> yes that is it nsh22
02:21 <BugBaby> So when i changed name..I got a new colour on his screen ^^
02:21 <nsh22> ok
02:21 <nsh22> it has armathentication i think as weell...
02:22 <PinkTomato> It's has some sort of algorhytm to it, babybug is always red for example
02:22 <nsh22> how do i add a local user?
02:22 <PinkTomato> LOCAL_USER <<name>> <<pass>>
02:23 <PinkTomato> USER_LEVEL <<name>>@ <<level>>
02:23 <nsh22> where do i put that server_info?
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02:23 <PinkTomato> that's a good place to put it :)
02:23 <nsh22> in the dedicated server files?
02:24 <PinkTomato> I can't remember on windows where it would be
02:24 <nsh22> i found the folder, its settings_authentication
02:24 <dlh> Lucifer: I've got a question about the 0.3.1 release process
02:25 <PinkTomato> ah wait nsh22 :)
02:26 <PinkTomato> just to complicate things
02:26 <PinkTomato> settings_authentication.cfg should not be touched :)
02:26 <PinkTomato> use server_info.cfg :)
02:26 <dlh> For 0.3.1_alpha1, I should do "bzr revert -rtag:0.3.1_alpha1" so that my sources are the same as in your release?
02:26 <nsh22> ok
02:27 <dlh> or should the latest be okay?
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02:32 <PinkTomato> nsh22: is it working?
02:32 <nsh22> hmmm not really, i added local_user to the server_info
02:33 <PinkTomato> what two lines did you add?
02:33 <PinkTomato> \cfg
02:33 <nsh22> local_user and user_level
02:33 <PinkTomato> I mean what did you type :)
02:34 <PinkTomato> #cfg user_level
02:34 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
02:34 <nsh22> ermm, like in the document?
02:34 <nsh22> it worked
02:34 <PinkTomato> Oh, problem solved :)
02:34 <PinkTomato> you put in 0 for level?
02:34 <PinkTomato> or 1
02:35 <nsh22> o,now i dont have admin, im just local :(
02:35 <PinkTomato> what's your user_level command?
02:35 <PinkTomato> @cfg user_level
02:35 <nsh22> 0
02:35 <PinkTomato> the full line ;)
02:35 <nsh22> USER_LEVEL neal 0
02:36 <PinkTomato> USER_LEVEL neal@ 0
02:36 <PinkTomato> the @ wasn't a typo ;)
02:36 <PinkTomato> but it wasn't very clear either
02:36 <nsh22> ok
02:36 <nsh22> i see
02:36 <PinkTomato> #cfg CYCLE_RUBBER
02:36 <@armabot> PinkTomato: CYCLE_RUBBER: Niceness factor to allow you drive really close to a wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY: During this fraction of the cycle delay time after each turn, rubber efficiency will be multiplied with CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS. (default: 0) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS: Factor for CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY rubber efficiency. (default: 0.5) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS_OVERRIDE: Block (10 more messages)
02:37 <nsh22> still a local user
02:38 <PinkTomato> restarted server?
02:39 <dlh> or include server_info.cfg
02:39 <dlh> or whatever you put it in
02:39 <nsh22> it worked i restarted it
02:39 <nsh22> ty
02:39 <PinkTomato> :)
02:42 <PinkTomato> Ok I'm off byebye :)
02:42 <nsh22> same
02:42 <nsh22> byby
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02:51 <Flex> BabyBug what makes you assume you have the intelligence to give advice?
02:51 <BabyBug> lol Flex, What makes you assume i'm giving advice?
02:52 <Flex> you're going to answer a quesiton with a question?
02:52 <BabyBug> Sure, why not? =)
02:54 <Flex> Babybug few months back, you're coming on here as a guy, then you turn into a virtual hooker, now you're relationship guru? Whatever you want to be, why don't you stay out of things that aren't your business? It might sound harsh, but I really mean it nicely and it's more of a request.
02:55 <BabyBug> A virtual hooker, wow that's nice hunni. I can why you're quite the catch.
02:55 <Flex> hey.. things might of been bad, but they're worse now, thanks
02:56 <BabyBug> Glad to be of some service.
02:56 <Lucifer> dlh: what's up?
02:57 <dlh> For 0.3.1_alpha1, I should do "bzr revert -rtag:0.3.1_alpha1" so that my sources are the same as in your release? Or will latest be okay?
02:58 <Lucifer> BabyBug: thank you, that answers a question I had when I was fixing a related problem with the cockpit
02:58 <Lucifer> dlh: latest is ok for now, there are some issues in the first alpha that didn't get discovered until I put it out :)
02:58 <BabyBug> Lucifer, For the pastebin right? =)
02:58 <Lucifer> there are issues in the latest as well, since I stupidly merged epsy's new version script
02:58 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yes, for the pastebin :)
02:59 <BabyBug> yw =)
02:59 <Lucifer> dlh: I'll tag for the second alpha, of course, as soon as I fix babybug's latest problem and the version script is sorted out, and then, in the absence of a third tag, you should package for that tag
02:59 <dlh> Lucifer: than should I name it something other than alpha1? Like create a tag "0.3.1_alpha2"?
03:00 <Lucifer> no, alpha2 is special. If you want to remove the .1 and release it marked like a trunk snapshot, that's fine
03:00 <dlh> alright
03:00 <Lucifer> at this point, you're only sanity checking the packaging and finding any obvious problems that we typically miss when running off the trunk like we do :)
03:01 <Lucifer> and making sure the package has all the stuff it's supposed to have, particularly things added since you last packaged a release (0.3.0)
03:01 <Lucifer> I hope to be able to release 0.3.1 before next week gets going
03:01 <Lucifer> one thing that may be different from 0.3.0, though
03:02 <Lucifer> and I should probably post this, but I'll say it here first
03:02 <Lucifer> I intend to build autopackages with a completely clean build, test them a little bit, and then tag and build again
03:02 <Lucifer> I'll initiate the final release with the autopackages and source tarball
03:02 <Lucifer> I'm going to want the windows and mac os x builds built from that source tarball
03:03 <Lucifer> so, it would be nice to have at least one alpha where we do a dress rehearsal for that
03:03 <dlh> Right, sounds good
03:05 <Flex> BabyBug, going to take my request seriously.. don't you think I have a point?
03:06 <BabyBug> Flex, nope
03:07 <Flex> you don't give a fuck what happens?
03:07 <BabyBug> Of course I care what happens =)
03:07 <BabyBug> But i'm not the one making that decision hun.
03:07 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure
03:08 <dlh> ugh, batch/make/version is broken on system other than gnu binutils
03:08 <Lucifer> heh
03:08 <Lucifer> that's for the best, really
03:08 <Lucifer> because it's broken on gnu binutils systems too
03:08 <dlh> oh, good :)
03:08 <Lucifer> so, it's broken everywhere :)
03:08 <Flex> If you were any way mature the way you act yourself to be, you would know you don't go around giving advice in things you have no idea about or in this case when you don't know the entire picture. Decisions is not my concern here.
03:09 <Lucifer> whoah
03:09 <BabyBug> Why do you think i'm giving advice?
03:09 <Lucifer> hey, let's try to have disagreements without judging the other person, eh?
03:09 <BabyBug> And don't start talking about maturity when you're here saying this for everyone to read.
03:09 <Lucifer> how long has this argument been going on? (I just realized I had been ignoring flex)
03:10 <BabyBug> erm..not long...only ~10 lines have been said
03:11 <Lucifer> oh good, I don't have to kick anybody yet
03:11 * Lucifer looks at the two arguers meaningfully
03:11 <Flex> it's not an argument, i don't want it to be.. i want BabyBug to understand..
03:11 * BabyBug identifies with armabot and kicks Lucifer xD
03:12 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
03:12 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o armabot] by Lucifer
03:12 <BabyBug> haha
03:12 <Flex> who's going to kick you when you argue Lucifer?
03:12 <@Lucifer> guru3 :)
03:12 <@Lucifer> I can't stop you guys from arguing, but I can ask you to argue somewhere else
03:13 <Flex> na i'm done.. anyway, so why should i be mature with someone who doesn't act/be mature themselves.. i believe i already asked you to stop before BabyBug
03:14 <@Lucifer> translation: "I'm done, so here's my parting shot"
03:14 <BabyBug> Hit the nail on the head Lucifer =P
03:14 <@Lucifer> hey, I used to be a kid too, you know ;)
03:14 <BabyBug> hehe
03:14 <BabyBug> ^^
03:15 <BabyBug> even if it was all that time ago eh?
03:15 <Flex> you forgot your classic, my kids ___ ect ect line, Lucifer
03:15 <@Lucifer> nah, I'm only recently divorced, and that psycho woman loved to remind me of what it was like to be a kid
03:15 <@Lucifer> Flex: oh now it's "My psycho ex"
03:15 <Flex> i've not heard that in a while
03:15 <@Lucifer> so instead of being compared to my kids, all the smegheads in the community get to be compared to her
03:16 <@Lucifer> Flex: I haven't been divorced for very long
03:16 <Flex> you should make it the channel title, so you don't have to keep talking about it
03:16 <@Lucifer> I think I'm starting to remember why you were on my ignore list
03:17 <Flex> na, it was because i didn't edit the wiki, you were a kid, not long ago
03:17 <@Lucifer> was your failure to edit the wiki linked to excessive bitching about how sucky the wiki is?
03:18 <Flex> not really. it was related to the fact that i prefered it to have it's own page..
03:19 <@Lucifer> curious if the chatlogs would support your contention or mine :)
03:19 <@Lucifer> but I don't care enough to dig up the conversation
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03:20 <Flex> neither do i.. it's on the wiki anyway, for now
03:20 <@Lucifer> damn, dlh left right when I was going to ask him a question
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03:22 <Flex> BabyBug, would it have helped if i spoke you in private.. i didn't think of that
03:24 <BabyBug> Flex, shush
03:24 <Flex> that's what i'd like you to do.. fair trade, huh?
03:24 <@Lucifer> it was 10 minutes since she last said something, and then she only said something in response to you....
03:25 <BabyBug> I'll stop talking to you no problem.
03:25 * Lucifer wants to know what "fair" means
03:25 <BabyBug> Fair trade food \o/
03:26 <Flex> Lucifer, it concerns what she says outside of this, not what she's been saying for the last 10 minutes.
03:26 <Flex> nm..
03:26 <@Lucifer> ah, so you're not really done arguing then
03:27 <@Lucifer> last warning, this is not the place for this argument :)
03:27 <Flex> can't reason with her, so no i'm done
03:27 <BabyBug> Lucifer, did you say you were building more autopackages tonight?
03:28 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: yeah, I just built them, but the version numbers are screwed up, and they don't include the map fix
03:28 <BabyBug> ahhhh okies
03:28 <@Lucifer> I can start another build, but I'm not putting it up for release because of the aforementioned version problem
03:28 * Lucifer is considering reverting the version script
03:28 <@Lucifer> hey, now's as good a time as any to learn about bzr revert
03:35 <@Lucifer> BabyBug: I just hopefully reverted the version script, and will test. If it works, I'll start up another package build for you ;)
03:35 <BabyBug> \o/ =D
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03:38 <nsh22> hey
03:38 <BabyBug> Hiho
03:38 <nsh22> #armaservers
03:38 <armabot> nsh22: This data is 52 seconds old; Wild West =Team Sumo= (11/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (6/14), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (5/10), Wild West =CTF Shooting= (5/10), -=VcL.High Rubber Server (5/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (4/14), Birdy's Nest (Oddest Version Of Loose DF) (3/8), (2 more messages)
03:38 <nsh22> haha it gives wild wests info
03:38 <nsh22> thats awesome
03:38 <nsh22> #armaconfig
03:38 <armabot> nsh22: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
03:39 <nsh22> #notes
03:39 <armabot> nsh22: I currently have notes waiting for $MrBougo, $randomnick, *mougo*, <<sh1n>>, <sh1n>, cid_06, ct¦kyle, dBd|nano, Durka,, eddie, epsy:, espy, everyone, G5_Ger, guru, how, I, kyle, later, monkey, Nickserv, noob7_away, operserv, philippec, ratchet, ratchet-, rickyross, royale, sebol, sithy, someone, somody, sunnygirl, unknown, voodoo, wrtlprnft..., wrtlpwnft, xs20, [dlh], and aa_voodoo.
03:39 <@Lucifer> oh goodie
03:39 <BabyBug> Lucifer?
03:39 <@Lucifer> successfully reverted to a working version script :)
03:39 <BabyBug> =)
03:39 <nsh22> yay
03:40 <@Lucifer> started up a client build
03:40 <nsh22> #armagetron.tournys
03:40 <@Lucifer> It'll be marked as alpha2, but it's *not* alpha2
03:40 <BabyBug> heh, ok
03:40 <@Lucifer> I suspect dlh is about to put up a mac build, and I'd just as soon do alpha2 tomorrow
03:41 <@Lucifer> er, well, nvm, I may as well, now that I think about it :)
03:41 <nsh22> is tron a job for you?
03:41 <@Lucifer> nsh22: no, is it a job for you?
03:42 <nsh22> lol no, but i mean like, how do you find the time to do all this stuff?
03:42 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by Lucifer
03:42 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer] by Lucifer
03:42 <Lucifer> right now I'm job-hunting, if that gives you an idea ;)
03:42 <nsh22> oic
03:42 <Lucifer> also, recently divorced (I think I mentioned that....)
03:42 <nsh22> so you have lots of spare time?
03:43 <Lucifer> it's not exactly spare
03:43 <nsh22> oh, well that sucks (depends on how u look at it)
03:43 <nsh22> @the divorce
03:43 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer, you love reminding yourself that it happened don't ya? =P
03:43 <Lucifer> it's more like "I need to make sure I'm doing something rewarding right now or I'll fall deep into the pit of despair"
03:43 <nsh22> ah
03:43 <nsh22> ive done that, its not fun
03:44 <Lucifer> also, one of the available choices for me right now (still waiting to talk to the people about it) involves going in communicado for a few weeks
03:44 <Lucifer> so it would be nice if I could see 0.3.1 out the door before that happens ;)
03:44 <nsh22> communicado?
03:45 <Lucifer> in communicado, out of communication
03:45 <Lucifer> I'm lookiing at the national guard, and there's basic training and tech school attached to it
03:46 <nsh22> oh, u want to join the national guard?
03:46 <Lucifer> sure, why not?
03:46 <nsh22> is that different than the army?
03:46 <Lucifer> yes, it is
03:46 <nsh22> ok
03:47 <nsh22> how long would u be communicado?
03:47 <Lucifer> don't know, won't know until I talk to somebody
03:47 <Lucifer> I've had a brief email exchange with a recruiter (That I initiated), and tomorrow I'm going to get on the phone and see what I can come up with
03:48 <nsh22> u need to communicate in order to go in commudicado? lol
03:48 <Lucifer> heh
03:48 <nsh22> i saw your post about making wine on the cheap, do you still do it?
03:48 <Lucifer> no
03:48 <Lucifer> I gave all that stuff away a few months ago
03:49 <nsh22> id like to get into that kind of stuff, but im too young to get it myself
03:49 <Lucifer> how old are you?
03:49 <nsh22> 16
03:49 <Lucifer> er wait
03:49 <Lucifer> did you say you're in the uk?
03:49 <nsh22> canada
03:49 <nsh22> pinktomatoe is in the uk i think
03:49 <Lucifer> hmmmm, it might not even be legal for you to do it
03:50 <Lucifer> but if it is, you might be able to legally purchase the supplies :)
03:50 <nsh22> meh, just say my parents did it
03:50 <nsh22> id get my parents to get the stuf probably
03:50 <nsh22> legal drinking age is 21
03:50 <Lucifer> then it's probably legal anyway
03:50 <nsh22> maybe
03:50 <Lucifer> ah, legal drinking age usually has exceptions for the parent-child relationship
03:51 <nsh22> but the funny thing is, i dont drink at all
03:51 <nsh22> i have never consumed alcohol(other than a sip of a cooler a few years ago)
03:53 <Lucifer> then I recommend making a honeydew melon wine :)
03:53 <nsh22> ya, with a bunch of sugar to be converted into alcohol lol
03:53 <Lucifer> well, of course, that's how it's made, isn't it? ;)
03:53 <nsh22> yes
03:54 <nsh22> but isnt honeydew like one of the more sugar packed fruits?
03:54 <nsh22> stherefore more alcohol?
03:54 <Lucifer> use like 3-4 honeydew melons for 5 gallons, and 3-4 cans of welch's white grape juice
03:54 <Lucifer> it might be more sugar-packed, but you still have to add extra sugar
03:54 <nsh22> and yeast?
03:54 <Lucifer> and of course yeast
03:54 <nsh22> lol
03:54 <Lucifer> there's a particular strand of yeast that's ideal for making fruit wines
03:55 <nsh22> ya, ill look around at some wie making shops
03:55 <Lucifer> it can tolerate up to 18% alcohol, but you probably won't get that high right away
03:55 <nsh22> we have quite a few here
03:55 <nsh22> lol
03:55 <Lucifer> there's more to raising yeast than giving them sugar :)
03:55 <nsh22> i dont realy plan on drinking it tbh, i just want the experiance
03:55 <nsh22> ya i read the entire article
03:55 <Lucifer> the experience isn't complete without drinking it ;)
03:56 <nsh22> ya i know
03:56 <Lucifer> that's why I suggest honeydew melon, it comes out really nicely
03:56 <Lucifer> it's a little on the sweet side, but you have to be a real wine lover to get into the dry wines
03:56 <Lucifer> so, for a first-time drinker, honeydew melon
03:56 <Lucifer> all other wines are an acquired taste
03:56 <nsh22> but i think that my family (fathers side) has a few chronics in it and im paranoid about becomeingone
03:56 <nsh22> i c now
03:57 <Lucifer> well, I quit drinking because I decided it was an addiction
03:57 <nsh22> good choice
03:57 <Lucifer> I wasn't drinking every day, but I don't seem to be able to drink without getting wasted
03:57 <Lucifer> can't enjoy just one glass of wine, have to drink the whole bottle
03:57 <Lucifer> so I gave my gear away
03:57 <nsh22> ya and that would take the fn out of it wouldnt it?
03:57 <nsh22> fun*
03:57 <Lucifer> well, drinking the whole bottle is fun too ;)
03:57 <nsh22> lol
03:58 <Lucifer> but it's kinda like not being able to kiss a girl unless you get into her pants
03:58 <nsh22> i think i would be more like that, just not being able to stop
03:58 <nsh22> if it tastes good
03:58 <Lucifer> when what you really want, for a healthy balance anyway, is a lot more kisses
03:58 <nsh22> lool
03:58 <Lucifer> well, at your age it isn't a big deal, seriously
03:58 <nsh22> ya
03:58 <Lucifer> but when you're 33, it's quite different
03:59 <Lucifer> teenagers are expected to party ;)
03:59 <nsh22> well, im like one of the few at my school who dont
04:00 <BabyBug> Lucifer, are you trying to polute every ounce and innocence left in him? xD
04:00 <BabyBug> of innocence*
04:00 <nsh22> ive experianced what binge drinking does (my uncles can finish off 5 24s ina weekend (and thats canadian beer))
04:00 <Lucifer> hey, there's nothing wrong with making wine for fun :)
04:00 <nsh22> lol
04:00 <Lucifer> it's a fun hobby
04:00 <nsh22> thats all i want to do is do it for fun
04:00 <nsh22> im heavily into food, i want to be a chef someday
04:01 <Lucifer> and if he saves a bottle and gets wasted with it and gives the rest away, he's not exactly living in debauchery
04:01 <nsh22> tru enough
04:01 <nsh22> there is plenty of alcohol available, i just choose not to drink it
04:04 <nsh22> #armagetron.tournys
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04:08 <nsh22> hey
04:08 <Lucifer> dammit, now we've regressed back to the other problem
04:08 <nsh22> lol which is?
04:09 <BabyBug> Lucifer, did you revert all the files or just version....
04:09 <Lucifer> just version
04:09 <ivantis2> me i am guessing is the other problem
04:10 <BabyBug> Why is the IRC channel called #armagetron yet the url has armagetronad....?
04:10 <Lucifer> BabyBug: looks like the version number for the cockpit dtd got lost again, heh
04:11 <BabyBug> awwwww =( lol
04:11 <nsh22> it gets lost often?
04:12 <BabyBug> it's got lost very often in the last puckle o days ^^
04:12 <Lucifer> no, different versioning problems, heh
04:13 <Lucifer> first, I didn't know the map dtd was suffering the same problem as the cockpit, becuase the cockpit had a different problem
04:13 <Lucifer> so, it had two problems, and I fixed both of them, but thought that maps were safe (and they looked safe)
04:13 <nsh22> ok, what is a dtd. that was the first big problem i had when i tried to use my first map
04:14 <Lucifer> the other versioning problems are in the version script, and all that does is generate the release version that gets encoded in the compiled game, tarballs named after it, etc
04:14 <Lucifer> nsh22: a dtd contains the description of a syntax of xml
04:14 <Lucifer> see, xml isn't a language by itself, it's just a way to build languages of a certain type
04:14 <nsh22> oh
04:14 <Lucifer> a dtd is used to make an actual language
04:14 <nsh22> and dtd translates that into a map
04:14 <Lucifer> a program will read the dtd, and then it knows the language
04:14 <nsh22> ok i understand
04:15 <Lucifer> then it'll read the file and make sure the file is written in the language described by the dtd. If it is, then the program understands it.
04:15 <nsh22> its like a translator basically?
04:15 <Lucifer> so your validation errors are because of that step, where the program doesn't know what you're trying to say in the file because you violated the dtd
04:15 <Lucifer> no, it's more like a dictionary
04:15 <nsh22> ok
04:16 <BabyBug> a thesaurus!
04:16 <Lucifer> but it's still more than that, because it has the added benefit of not just requiring files to be the right language, but also the right structure
04:16 <nsh22> see, when i first made a map, it used an ancient dtd (ty armabell XC) soi had to change the dtd file in the xml
04:16 <Lucifer> you could get some command line xml tools and check the validation of a map without using arma at all
04:17 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I think I fixed it, I'm building again to test, but this isn't a package build. It's faster to test by having a regular trunk build to test ;)
04:18 <BabyBug> Lucifer, So an ETA on the package provided you fixed it now?
04:18 <Lucifer> 45 minutes or so
04:19 <nsh22> it takes that long to build (noob question i know)
04:19 <nsh22> ?
04:19 <Lucifer> nsh22: no, it takes that long to build it twice, package it once, and test it both times
04:19 <nsh22> 0.o
04:19 <nsh22> so this is for 0.3.1?
04:19 <Lucifer> first build is from scratch because I didn't happen to have a working build directory, I've been building packages
04:20 <Lucifer> the second build must be from scratch
04:20 <Lucifer> yes, I'm working on 0.3.1 right now
04:20 <BabyBug> and then my bug will be fixed in 0.3.2 \o/
04:20 <Lucifer> have some bugs that babybug found that I'm trying to fix, and she wants to be ready to test :)
04:20 <nsh22> ugh, i am best to stay away from all this jargon
04:21 <BabyBug> (you will have utf-8 for 0.3.2 right?)
04:21 <Lucifer> no promises, but we can hope ftgl gets their shit together :)
04:22 <BabyBug> hrmph
04:22 <Lucifer> also, wrtlprnft (hi there!) is probably the one to bug for that, he was the one working on it
04:22 <Lucifer> after 0.3.1, I'm going into the resource system, and then back to the sound engine
04:22 <Lucifer> and when I finish that, I'm going to start talking about 0.3.2 :)
04:22 <BabyBug> Is sounds working at all in 0.3.1?
04:22 <Lucifer> same as 0.3.0
04:22 <luke-jr> forums which require login to read are lame IMO :/
04:23 <nsh22> lol
04:23 * Lucifer completely agrees
04:23 <nsh22> like which one?
04:24 <luke-jr> I should reg on the forum just to bite him for slander
04:24 <nsh22> which site?
04:24 <Lucifer> heh
04:24 <Lucifer> he's not really worth your time :)
04:24 <Lucifer> it's ok for people to be wrong on the internet
04:24 <luke-jr> pfft, and it's even an overdue customer of mine
04:25 <Lucifer> he's not overdue, he never intended to pay to begin with
04:25 <nsh22> lol
04:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: hey, you have a server w/ him? ;)
04:25 <nsh22> code hunter
04:25 <Lucifer> hey, you should register and remind him that he never paid his bills
04:25 <nsh22> ?
04:25 <nsh22> ya but i am displeased with him
04:26 <nsh22> i realise i made a bad move
04:26 <Lucifer> just remind him politely that he still hasn't settled his bill with you
04:26 <luke-jr> Lucifer: code said *low* bw/disk, which is unfounded
04:26 <luke-jr> I have no artificial limits on either..
04:26 <Lucifer> no, he said "limited"
04:26 <Lucifer> he obviously tried to imply "low"
04:26 <Lucifer> well, see, that's where if he said "limited", he's technically correct :)
04:26 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I have a server in UK, Texas, and Connecticut
04:27 <nsh22> luke, at the en of this month (when my server ends with code) could i use u as a host?
04:27 <Lucifer> you're limited by the laws of physics ;)
04:28 <BabyBug> What laws would they be? =)
04:28 <luke-jr> nsh22: sure, email me the info :þ
04:29 <nsh22> like what?
04:29 <luke-jr> nsh22: and if you don't mind letting me borrow your current account, I wouldn't mind seeing his interface and making sure he didn't steal mine
04:29 <nsh22> alright
04:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: geographical preference, account username, admin email, payment method, payment address, arma version, # of slots, and service start date
04:30 <nsh22> its a simple pass i use for stuff that i find questionable (te RCON pass for the cp wasnt *'ed wen i signe up)
04:30 <nsh22> ill email it to u
04:30 <luke-jr> ok
04:30 <luke-jr> thanks
04:31 <nsh22> The newest registered user is AdultDatingSingles haha
04:31 <nsh22> thats at the forums
04:32 <luke-jr> O.o
04:32 <nsh22> lol
04:34 <nsh22> where all do u host servers?
04:35 <nsh22> and ami able to change admin pass at a late date?
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04:35 <nsh22> nvm i misread sumthing
04:35 <Lucifer> you know, I think codehunter is the first genuine crook we've had here
04:36 <Lucifer> now that I think about it
04:36 <nsh22> lol
04:36 <Lucifer> I mean, we've had plenty of punks, but codehunter's a genuine crook
04:36 <nsh22> cloaket and crazy?
04:36 <Lucifer> thsoe guys are just punks
04:36 <BabyBug> who's codehunter?
04:36 <nsh22> ya, i guess they arnt after money
04:36 <Lucifer> they're troublemakers, there's no personal gain for them
04:37 <@armabot> armablah: Your Method to Our Madness « Play Fortress
04:37 <luke-jr> Lucifer: mmm, think it would be possible to let me do something to claim having released 0.3.1 also? from this post, it would be a nice spit in his face ;)
04:37 <Lucifer> BabyBug: you ought to look him up on the forums ;)
04:37 <luke-jr> "We noticed that the .3 version of the server is a bit buggy and we had some issues when setting it up, So we will only be offering the stable version (.2.8.2.1) until a full release is made of the .3 beta version released by Z-Man. "
04:37 <BabyBug> #searchforums codehunter
04:37 <Lucifer> luke-jr: sure, can you try to build a windows package? ;)
04:37 <BabyBug> darn it
04:37 <luke-jr> Lucifer: you forget Hyphy
04:37 <Lucifer> or better yet, fix epsy's version script
04:38 <luke-jr> uh, I don't even have Windows
04:38 <Lucifer> Hyphy didn't try to steal anything either, he was just a troublemaker
04:38 <luke-jr> Hyphy did steal from me.
04:38 <Lucifer> tried to make people mad
04:38 <luke-jr> He paid me with like 2 or 3 stolen credit cards.
04:38 <Lucifer> yeah, but that was just him being a punk
04:38 <Lucifer> he punked you out of shit
04:38 <luke-jr> federal crime, afaik
04:38 <Lucifer> well yeah, stealing is still stealing, but codehunter is more like the stereotypical con artist
04:38 <Lucifer> and he's not real good at it
04:39 <BabyBug> Lucifer, searching didn't work :P
04:39 <Lucifer> BabyBug: search by username
04:39 <Lucifer> it's either CodeHunter or Code Hunter
04:39 <Lucifer> then you can read what he's written directly :)
04:39 <BabyBug> you can't....
04:39 <Lucifer> luke-jr: anyway, yeah, it would be really awesome if someone took the version script epsy wrote and fixed and make it actually work
04:39 <BabyBug> search by username
04:39 <BabyBug> or im blind
04:40 <nsh22> luke jr:where all do u host servers?
04:40 <Lucifer> blind, I'll bet :)
04:40 <BabyBug> ><
04:40 <luke-jr> Lucifer: what's wrong with the old one? ;)
04:40 <Lucifer> yep, blind
04:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: Texas, Connecticut, and UK
04:40 <BabyBug> ...
04:40 <Lucifer> luke-jr: the old one works fine but doesn't work with bzr :)
04:40 <BabyBug> link! lol
04:40 <Lucifer> it generates the right version number, though
04:41 <Lucifer> then epsy decided to add bzr support and broke it
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04:41 <Lucifer> then he fixed it, and it still didn't work
04:41 <Lucifer> so he fixed it again, and it still doesn't work
04:41 <Lucifer> batch/make/version
04:41 <BabyBug> Oh Lucifer, ok im blind
04:41 <nsh22> kk i sent it
04:41 <nsh22> just tell me if you needmoe info
04:41 <Lucifer> I reverted the 0.3.1 branch back to a working version, so you'll have to do it in the trunk
04:42 <Lucifer> and if you want to take a crack at trying to get the rpm or debian packages to build.... ;)
04:42 <Lucifer> z-man used to build the generic rpm from a Gentoo installation
04:42 <nsh22> hahaha look at the profile of the newest forummember. lol
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04:43 <nsh22> some1 took the time to fill out the registration form for that.... thats sad
04:45 <luke-jr> Lucifer: hey, I can do the 0.3.1 ebuild ;)
04:45 <luke-jr> heck, I should already be doing that maybe
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04:48 <nsh22> hmmm now im a bit cautious
04:49 <nsh22> would you say that codehunter is a bit vengeful?
04:49 <BabyBug> i read and really dont see what the thing about codehunter is.....
04:50 <nsh22> codehunter is also known as vcl program
04:50 * BabyBug is still blank
04:50 <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17751&highlight=
04:50 <nsh22> i dont know what ur trying to find
04:51 <Lucifer> you don't have to get very far in that thread to see the con
04:52 <nsh22> i saw it lol
04:54 <Lucifer> and of course this thread was fun:
04:54 <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=13191&highlight=
04:54 <Lucifer> but I think he took the site down, so you can't see what the fun was
04:55 <BabyBug> i see....
04:57 <Lucifer> oh no, are all of Dr Joe Tron's MS Paint cartoons gone?
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04:57 * Lucifer hopes not
04:57 <nsh22> looks like it
04:57 <BabyBug> \o/
04:57 * Lucifer thinks he should've saved them when he had the chance
04:58 <nsh22> "Not trying to wave my internet penis around." lol at joetron
05:02 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Did you actually fix the error before btw?
05:03 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, apparently the resource.dtd file isn't getting versioned and included in the package again
05:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: already a reply LOL
05:03 <Lucifer> I'm working on it
05:03 * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle
05:03 <nsh22> lol
05:04 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
05:08 <nsh22> luke, on my server app, could you chang ethe start date to satuday the 10th?
05:22 <nsh22> anybody here?
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05:26 <ct|kyle> no
05:26 <nsh22> lol
05:27 <GodTodd_> holy fuck...i forgot i did that paint thingie back then on that thread
05:27 <GodTodd_> heh
05:27 -!- GodTodd_ is now known as GodTodd
05:28 <Lucifer> heh
05:28 <Lucifer> I had totally forgotten about that thread, and mostly forgotten about why I didn't like code hunter when he first showed up
05:28 <luke-jr> XD
05:28 <nsh22> luke, on my server app, could you chang ethe start date to satuday the 10th?
05:28 <Lucifer> luke, on my server app, could you chang ethe start date to satuday the 10th?
05:28 <nsh22> lol
05:29 <Lucifer> nsh22: use your tab completion and only say it once :)
05:29 <Lucifer> luke-jr reads his backbuffer
05:29 <GodTodd> luke, on my server app, could you chang ethe start date to satuday the 10th...of never?
05:29 <nsh22> ok
05:29 <luke-jr> so who believe CodeHunter about him not hosting?
05:29 <luke-jr> nsh22: I didn't receive the app
05:29 <nsh22> what u mean?
05:29 <nsh22> hmmm
05:29 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I do
05:30 <Lucifer> codehunter doesn't have the technical capabilities to host a server
05:30 <luke-jr> unless it's this forum PM thing
05:30 <Lucifer> come on, he said he has "an irc", and he had a "wiki" until it got speedily deleted
05:30 <Lucifer> (yes, I can't believe I actually reread those threads)
05:30 <nsh22> ill snd u the dragonserver stuff for now and my app tomoor
05:30 * GodTodd misses DrJoeTron. :(
05:30 <luke-jr> wtf is with this retarded forum expecting me to compose posts in black on dark grey, anyhow?
05:30 * Lucifer misses DrJoeTron too. :(
05:30 <ct|kyle> I'm sure that your hosting is much better than that other one though
05:31 * ct|kyle too
05:31 <Lucifer> luke-jr: you're at the CT forum?
05:31 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: Wild West, even worse
05:31 <nsh22> there
05:32 <nsh22> check qickly, i put in a cancellation request, itll be gone in 24 hours
05:33 <nsh22> k im goin to bed
05:33 <nsh22> night all
05:33 <Lucifer> haha, Y-Man
05:34 <ct|kyle> anyway Lucifer we are going to have a new forum sometime
05:34 <Lucifer> will it hurt my eyes as much as the current forums do?
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05:36 <ct|kyle> I wonder how well my new captcha will work
05:36 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: more :P, we have not even made a theme for it yet
05:37 <luke-jr> should I threaten legal action?
05:38 <GodTodd> gaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05:39 <GodTodd> someone should have really warned me that luke-jr posted to that thread after i lost interest in it...with an actual pic as his avatar.
05:39 <GodTodd> now i have to find a spoon to gouge my eyes out with :)
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05:40 <Lucifer> grrrr
05:42 <luke-jr> should I? :þ
05:42 <Lucifer> only threaten legal action if you're willing to take it
05:42 <Lucifer> and no, I think you should take the high road
05:43 <Lucifer> if you want to post and politely remind him he owes you money, that would be the high road :)
05:43 <Lucifer> but posting anything that looks like an attack? Nah, I wouldn't
05:43 <ct|kyle> he already did that
05:43 <luke-jr> I told him it was hypocritical for him to ask for pre-payment when he's 2 months overdue ;p
05:44 <luke-jr> "My cancellation policy is clearly documented. Should I go dig out my chat logs from the end of December where you assured me you would be paying the overdue bills? As you have clearly stated an intent to steal service in this post, I have terminated your service early. Please remit the overdue payment as soon as possible."
05:44 <luke-jr> how's that?
05:45 <TaZ> sigh
05:45 <TaZ> How much is it?
05:45 <luke-jr> $20 ;p
05:46 <TaZ> I can pay half of it
05:46 <luke-jr> why? O.o
05:47 <TaZ> I don't want this going back and forth
05:47 <luke-jr> o.O
05:58 <Lucifer> heh
05:59 <Lucifer> at this point, TaZ, I think luke-jr's post isn't really about money (although nobody questions that code hunter should pay him)
06:00 <TaZ> If it's not about the money, then what is it about?
06:00 <luke-jr> Lucifer: true enough, but don't let Code know that XD
06:01 <luke-jr> TaZ: just the principle of it all, plus the fact that he's slandering and making me look bad
06:01 <Lucifer> TaZ: and engaging in the same shady practices he's always engaged in
06:01 <Lucifer> this time, he wants your money. Previously he wanted credit and attention
06:05 <TaZ> From my understanding, he quit paying, and you let the servers continue hosting
06:05 <TaZ> Is that what happened?
06:06 <luke-jr> except he never mentioned cancelling
06:06 <luke-jr> just neglected to pay his bill
06:07 <TaZ> Shouldn't cancelling have been automatic?
06:07 <luke-jr> of course not
06:07 <TaZ> Like paying a light bill
06:07 <luke-jr> nobody assumes cancellation
06:07 <luke-jr> ever missed your electric bill?
06:07 <TaZ> You don't pay, your lights get cut off
06:07 <luke-jr> clearly not
06:07 <TaZ> Actually no xD
06:08 <luke-jr> your lights get cut off 2 months after it's late
06:08 <TaZ> Just assuming of course
06:08 <luke-jr> and you still owe the money
06:08 <TaZ> Did you send a notice?
06:08 <TaZ> Both months?
06:09 <luke-jr> Dec 19
06:09 <luke-jr> reminding him that his bills were overdue
06:09 <TaZ> And when did he stop paying?
06:10 <luke-jr> my records show that he paid the first 3 months of service, starting 2008-02-22
06:10 <luke-jr> 2008-08-22*
06:11 <luke-jr> On Dec 25, he apologised, told me he would be paying the remainder of the bill and to cancel the service at the end of that month.
06:11 <TaZ> So it ended November 22, 2008?
06:12 <TaZ> oo
06:12 <luke-jr> so his cancellation date is 2009-01-21
06:12 <TaZ> ok
06:12 <luke-jr> as mentioned in the post I haven't made yet, since he just demonstrated a clear intent to steal the service, I terminated it early jsut now
06:13 <TaZ> ah
06:13 <TaZ> Well if he made a promise, he should have kept it
06:13 <luke-jr> my (fairly standard) cancellation policy is well documented as well:
06:13 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/?page=svcterms
06:13 <luke-jr> "You are required to give notice of service cancellation at least a month in advance. Cancellation is only considered in effect when we are notified: if you wait 2 months to tell us, expect to pay for those 2 months."
06:14 <Lucifer> ok, started up another autopackage build
06:14 <TaZ> Well this changes everything
06:14 <luke-jr> (note even on Dec 25 I waived the full month's notice usually required)
06:14 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I *think* I've fixed it again, heh
06:15 <TaZ> See I thought you were just hosting it to be nice or something lol
06:15 <luke-jr> hm, my policy does mention abuse as "increasing fixed bandwidth usage limits", so I suppose if he read it that could be misinterpreted to mean such limits exist
06:15 <luke-jr> but he obviously didn't read it, since he didn't cancel properly
06:16 <Lucifer> you're referring to bandwidth usage settings in the server?
06:16 * Lucifer tries to remember waht they are
06:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: oh, maybe that's why I put it in there
06:16 <Lucifer> you can enforce that
06:16 <luke-jr> I think there were a few like that I didn't understand what exactly they did :þ
06:17 <Lucifer> #settings client
06:17 <luke-jr> Lucifer: yeah, in theory those are all enforced
06:17 <Lucifer> #armasettings client
06:17 <@armabot> Lucifer: ALLOW_ENEMIES_SAME_CLIENT: If set to 1, this allows two players that play on the same client to fight for points with each other. (default: 0) || CLIENT_PORT: Port we try to connect to (default: 4534) || CYCLE_AVOID_OLDCLIENT_BAD_SYNC: If set to 1, old clients will not get sync messages in situations that are known to confuse them (default: 0) || LAG_OFFSET_CLIENT: Extra amount of lag (2 more messages)
06:17 <luke-jr> I have a patch that reads a config file and caps MAX_CLIENTS too
06:17 <Lucifer> #more
06:17 <@armabot> Lucifer: compensation, determined by the client. (default: 0) || MAX_CLIENTS: Maximum number of network clients to accept (default: 16) || MAX_CLIENTS_SAME_IP_HARD: Maximum number of network clients to accept from the same IP; more logins will be ignored (default: 8) || MAX_CLIENTS_SAME_IP_SOFT: Maximum number of network clients to accept from the same IP; more logins will get kicked when the (1 more message)
06:17 <Lucifer> #more
06:17 <@armabot> Lucifer: server is full (default: 4) || RESOURCE_REPOSITORY_CLIENT: URI the client uses to search for map files if they aren't stored locally. Better leave it alone (default: http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/)
06:17 <luke-jr> that part of the policy is referring to bypassing stuff
06:17 <Lucifer> hmmm, there's a setting that adjusts actual bandwidth usage
06:19 <TaZ> Well I hope Code does the right thing
06:19 <TaZ> I'm going to bed, night.
06:19 <luke-jr> …
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06:20 <Lucifer> oh right
06:20 <Lucifer> #armasettings MAX
06:20 <@armabot> Lucifer: CAMERA_SMART_CENTER_MAX_LOOKAHEAD: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 5) || CONSOLE_ROWS_MAX: Number of lines of console output when scrolling back (default: 19) || CYCLE_MAX_REFCOUNT: Maximum allowed reference count on cycles before they self destruct. This setting is to protect against performance related DOS attacks. (default: 30000) || CYCLE_WIDTH_RUBBER_MAX: If the cycle_width conditions are (7 more messages)
06:20 <Lucifer> #armasettings MAX_IN
06:20 <@armabot> Lucifer: MAX_IN_RATE: Maximum network input rate (default: 8)
06:20 <Lucifer> #armasettings MAX_OUT
06:20 <@armabot> Lucifer: MAX_OUT_RATE: Maximum network output rate (default: 8)
06:20 <luke-jr> yeah
06:20 <luke-jr> I think I #ifdef'd those out
06:21 <Lucifer> so you're running custom builds, then?
06:22 <luke-jr> slightly modified
06:22 <Lucifer> heh, you should create a bzr branch for the mods :)
06:22 <Lucifer> put them out where people can see them ;)
06:22 <luke-jr> they're pretty specific :þ
06:23 <luke-jr> patch is 230 lines
06:23 <luke-jr> basically just a lot of #ifndef HOSTED
06:24 <luke-jr> and a --enable-hosted configure option
06:24 <luke-jr> and a function to restrict MAX_CLIENTS, and set the (not configurable) SERVER_IP and SERVER_POOOOOORT
06:24 <luke-jr> PORT*
06:25 <luke-jr> based on my service layer config file
06:25 <Lucifer> yeah, well, it's up to you
06:25 <Lucifer> personally, if I thought people should have the source to web apps, I'd be the first to offer source to servers I run ;)
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06:30 <luke-jr> Lucifer: FWIW, only 0.2.8 alphas are dated
06:30 <luke-jr> 0.3 trunk was always Svn rev numbers
06:31 <luke-jr> why not get the Ubuntu devs to make the Ubuntu pkgs?
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06:39 <Lucifer> 0.3 trunk is now dated too, because of how branches and merges work
06:40 <luke-jr> o.o
06:40 <luke-jr> CodeHunter just sent me $40?
06:40 <Lucifer> no way
06:40 <luke-jr> is it a trap?
06:41 <Lucifer> nah
06:41 -!- DrJoeTron [n=Crayze4S@adsl-75-57-142-104.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
06:41 <Lucifer> I suspect that he doesn't *want* to be a used car salesman, that's just what he is
06:41 <DrJoeTron> ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
06:41 <luke-jr> omfg DrJoeTron listened!
06:41 <Lucifer> holy shit, is that really joe?
06:41 <DrJoeTron> hey hi
06:41 <luke-jr> Lucifer: he's on Google Talk all the time
06:41 <Lucifer> prove you're the real DrJoeTron (hi there!) and draw a ms paint cartoon
06:41 <luke-jr> so I pointed him at the thread
06:41 <luke-jr> LOL
06:41 <DrJoeTron> <luke-jr> Lucifer: he's on Google Talk all the time <- p.much
06:42 <DrJoeTron> how've you been :)
06:42 <Lucifer> heh, good, and you?
06:43 <DrJoeTron> hangin in there, school and work
06:43 * luke-jr is waiting for CodeHunter to post/say something before he accepts.
06:43 <luke-jr> this is just too suspicious
06:43 <DrJoeTron> huh?
06:43 <luke-jr> why would he send me $40 when he was just fighting to not send me $20?
06:43 <GodTodd> school and work are no excuse for neglecting a fucking important irc channel, you bloody tampon. :D
06:43 * luke-jr suspects a plot to PayPal-dispute
06:44 <DrJoeTron> <3
06:44 <Lucifer> haha GodTodd (hi there!)
06:44 <DrJoeTron> oh cool freenode removed my user name
06:44 <luke-jr> GodTodd: that's some insult there…
06:44 <DrJoeTron> shows the last time i signed on
06:44 <Lucifer> ok, I'm gonna tag and put up new alpha builds for 0.3.1
06:44 <luke-jr> bzr has tags⁇
06:44 <Lucifer> yep, bzr has tags
06:45 <GodTodd> that reminds me, though, i have to brave the advisement office at UTD tomorrow :/
06:45 <Lucifer> grrr, someone pushed to 0.3.1 when I wasn't looking
06:46 <GodTodd> yeah, sorry bout that ;)
06:46 <luke-jr> wtf, GodTodd codes Armagetron?
06:46 <DrJoeTron> has any work been done on this here game
06:46 <Lucifer> luke-jr: everyone has bzr write access except you ;)
06:46 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: what do you think of http://www.lagtest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=40169
06:46 <Lucifer> DrJoeTron: yes, as a matter of fact....
06:46 <luke-jr> Lucifer: even DrJoeTron?
06:46 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: MS Paint the cycle model!
06:46 <DrJoeTron> oh, brb logging in
06:47 <Lucifer> great, now I have to remove the tag and test again
06:47 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr what forum is that
06:47 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: dunno, some annoying forum
06:48 <DrJoeTron> oh, thanks for the link then
06:48 <luke-jr> I blame wrtlprnft for some unknown reason.
06:48 <GodTodd> i don't join any forum that would have me as a member
06:49 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron, you should make a MS Paint forum tho
06:49 <GodTodd> that'd roxxorz
06:49 <Lucifer> we need to start some stupid fight on the forums so that DrJoeTron (hi there!) can hijack it with a cartoon
06:50 <DrJoeTron> ahhh i got kinda sick of trollin' the arma boards
06:50 <Lucifer> awwwwww
06:51 <Lucifer> hey, do you still have all the ms paint cartoons you drew?
06:51 <Lucifer> you linked them to somewhere from the forums, and they're all gone now
06:51 <luke-jr> trolling⁇
06:51 <luke-jr> you mean you didn't enjoy those posts as much as we did?
06:52 <GodTodd> i should troll the forums...it's even better since i play once every decade or so
06:52 <GodTodd> :D
06:52 <Lucifer> hey, we're in a new decade since
06:52 <luke-jr> you do actually play?
06:52 <Lucifer> er, wait, no we're not, it's only 09
06:53 <luke-jr> I wonder if I've spent more time coding or playing…
06:53 <Lucifer> I think I've spent the most time dealing with epsy's bugs ;)
06:53 <GodTodd> i've not played since i got this laptop...but, yeah, i play once in a while
06:53 <luke-jr> XD
06:53 <Lucifer> if make distcheck passes, I'm tagging again and pushing
06:54 <GodTodd> push it
06:54 <GodTodd> push it real good
06:54 <Lucifer> I'm gonna push it right over to DrJoeTron (hi there!) to draw us an MS Paint cartoon
06:54 <luke-jr> ooooh
06:54 <luke-jr> oooh
06:54 <Lucifer> hey joe, want to contribute a splash screen for 0.3.1? ;)
06:54 <DrJoeTron> I'M WORKIN ON IT GET OFF MY BACK ~MOM~
06:54 <luke-jr> Lucifer: get DrJoeTron to draw the title page for 0.3.1!
06:54 <GodTodd> i think that made luke-jr cum
06:54 <luke-jr> haha
06:55 <DrJoeTron> woah what?
06:55 <luke-jr> looks like Lucifer got the same idea at the same time
06:55 <luke-jr> XD
06:55 <luke-jr> DrJoeTron: that pic when you start the game… you draw the new one
06:55 <luke-jr> :D
06:55 <Lucifer> DrJoeTron: I don't mean to scare you, but luke-jr and I just had the same thought at the same time
06:55 <DrJoeTron> but all i do is draw doodles in mspaint :T
06:55 <luke-jr> AND THEY'RE AWESOME
06:55 <GodTodd> ITZ DA APOCALIPSE!!!!111!!1!!1
06:55 <Lucifer> man
06:56 <Lucifer> don't tell anybody, just send it along privately and I'll sneak it into the tarball
06:56 <luke-jr> what? put it in bzr
06:56 <Lucifer> sure, after the release
06:57 <luke-jr> is someone going to have a problem with a little humour in a 0.3 release?
06:57 <Lucifer> I'll commit it locally, then push right after I release
06:57 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer sure, i'll get to it when i can
06:57 <DrJoeTron> give me a few minutes
06:57 <Lucifer> I don't think anybody will complain, I'd just like to surprise a few people ;)
06:57 <luke-jr> good enough
06:57 <luke-jr> Lucifer: so we need to wipe the logs here?
06:57 <GodTodd> and our asses probably
06:58 <Lucifer> come on, 0.3.1 has a gcc -nobodyreadsconfigureoutputanyway check in configure, and -DLUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS
06:58 <luke-jr> XD
06:58 <Lucifer> luke-jr: yeah, but anybody who's here can see it anyway
06:58 <Lucifer> DrJoeTron: for added surprise, draw a second one for 0.2.8.3 and email it to z-man, ask him to wait until the last possible moment to put it in there
06:59 <Lucifer> if that doesn't motivate him to release, nothing will :/
06:59 <luke-jr> ROFL
06:59 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
07:00 * luke-jr would not personally go along with putting it in a stable release, but who knows what z-man will do ;p
07:00 <GodTodd> motherfucker it's cold in here :(
07:00 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
07:00 <@armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Crooked Lane, Plano, Texas is 38.8°F (12:00 AM CST on January 07, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.85 in 1010.7 hPa (Rising).
07:00 <luke-jr> Lucifer: I still think LUCIFER_ALWAYS_WINS needs to be a run-time remote-triggerable option
07:00 <Lucifer> oh come on, if DrJoeTron (hi there!) never comes back, we'll have a little memorial for him
07:00 <luke-jr> with some kind of hidden DISABLE_ALWAYS_WINS to "fix" it
07:00 <Lucifer> no, that should just make it print "Round Winner: Disable"
07:01 <Lucifer> I have to admit the pranking possibilities are tempting
07:03 * Lizz pranks loocceeee
07:03 <Lucifer> hey, when did she get here?
07:03 <Lizz> awhile ago.. how u be?
07:03 <Lucifer> heh, doing good
07:03 <Lizz> :) good to hear
07:04 <Lucifer> you?
07:04 <Lizz> mm.. nothing i wanna get into in main .. u know how it goes
07:04 <luke-jr> Lizz: if you heard anything, stfu and keep it quiet
07:04 <Lucifer> heh
07:04 <Lizz> oh honey i always do
07:04 <luke-jr> <.<
07:05 <Lizz> mwah luke babeh!
07:05 <Lucifer> she's the queen of quiet
07:05 <Lucifer> the sultan of silence
07:05 <Lucifer> the diva of don't-talk
07:05 <Lizz> the ho of horror
07:05 <Lucifer> sure you're not the hor of horror?
07:05 * Lucifer ducks
07:06 <Lizz> maybe.. wanna find out? come to my dungeon ;)
07:06 <Lucifer> heh
07:06 <Lizz> :P
07:06 <Lucifer> oh hell, I'm not married anymore
07:06 <Lizz> O.o
07:06 <Lizz> really? o.O
07:06 <Lizz> im sry
07:07 <Lucifer> eh? it's really more congratulations than condolences
07:07 <Lucifer> really
07:07 <Lizz> k.. well.. we are in same boat i guess >.>
07:07 <luke-jr> is it sinking?
07:07 <Lizz> nope.. not now
07:08 <Lucifer> it's a lifeboat, the other ship is sinking and we've left it?
07:08 <Lizz> yup
07:09 <Lizz> SS Marriage.. thats the sinking ship
07:09 <DrJoeTron> hmm
07:09 * Lizz licks Joe babeh
07:09 <luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes
07:09 <DrJoeTron> Lucifer give me a bit and i'll try and make the splash screens
07:09 <Lizz> fuck the holes instead luke
07:09 <Lucifer> hey DrJoeTron (hi there!) , tell us you've had luck with love ;)
07:10 <DrJoeTron> it was with GodTodd
07:10 <Lucifer> DrJoeTron: sure. :) You want to email them to me?
07:10 <DrJoeTron> etc
07:10 <luke-jr> ………..
07:10 <DrJoeTron> whatever will work
07:10 <DrJoeTron> email will be fine
07:10 <luke-jr> CC me!
07:11 <Lizz> u still eating our children Joe?
07:11 <DrJoeTron> prolly
07:11 <Lizz> good
07:11 <Lucifer> no, don't CC luke!
07:11 <Lucifer> make him wait until the actual release ;)
07:11 <GodTodd> who was with me?
07:11 <Lucifer> you remember my email address?
07:11 <DrJoeTron> you can PM me it if you'd like (nope)
07:13 <GodTodd> #quote get 83
07:13 <@armabot> GodTodd: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
07:13 <GodTodd> errr
07:13 <GodTodd> #quote get 86
07:13 <@armabot> GodTodd: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
07:13 <Lucifer> #quote get 85
07:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #85: "i spelled sumthing wrong -nsh22" (added by Lucifer_arma at 01:06 AM, January 07, 2009)
07:13 <Lucifer> hey, quote 83 was the last one in 2008
07:14 <GodTodd> #quote get 84
07:14 <@armabot> GodTodd: Quote #84: "<cusco> #quote search *cusco* <armabot> cusco: No matching quotes were found." (added by Lucifer_arma at 11:54 PM, December 19, 2008)
07:14 <GodTodd> nope
07:14 <GodTodd> that one was
07:14 <Lucifer> oh, heh
07:14 <luke-jr> Lucifer: -.-
07:15 <GodTodd> #whoami
07:15 <@armabot> GodTodd: GodTodd
07:15 <Lucifer> #whoareyou
07:15 <@armabot> Lucifer: What do you think?
07:16 <GodTodd> #whythefuckamiprocrastinatingthischapter
07:16 <GodTodd> heh
07:16 <DrJoeTron> nerd
07:16 <Lucifer> #nerd
07:17 <Lucifer> hmm, what's the variable for armabot to say the user's name?
07:17 <GodTodd> DrJoeTron, don't talk that way about yourself
07:17 <GodTodd> $who?
07:17 <luke-jr> #echo [whoami]
07:17 <@armabot> Luke-Jr
07:17 <Lucifer> #nerd
07:17 <@armabot> Lucifer: I'm rubber and you're glue, and whatever you say bounces off me and sticks on you.
07:17 <luke-jr> #help nerd
07:17 <@armabot> luke-jr: (nerd <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo $nick: I'm rubber and you're glue, and whatever you say bounces off me and sticks on you.".
07:18 <DrJoeTron> alright I gotta run, good seeing you guys again :)
07:18 <DrJoeTron> and i'll see what I can do for a splash screen
07:18 <Lucifer> hey, yeah, don't stay away too long man ;)
07:18 <GodTodd> cya joe
07:18 <Lucifer> we really do miss you around here :)
07:18 <DrJoeTron> you set young men's hearts a flutter
07:18 <Lucifer> thank you, but why can't I set lizz's heart a flutter?
07:19 <DrJoeTron> ~shrug~ try harder
07:19 <GodTodd> or try being harder
07:19 <GodTodd> :D
07:19 <DrJoeTron> ^5
07:19 <Lucifer> 5^
07:19 <DrJoeTron> hahaha
07:19 <DrJoeTron> see ya guys
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07:19 <Lucifer> bye
07:20 <Lucifer> #m epsy hey, your version script needs to find bzr tags. Does it?
07:20 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
07:31 <ct|kyle> #m guru3 AdultDatingSingles << spammer just got into the forums
07:31 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
07:44 <luke-jr> guru3: Lucifer needs a singles forum section
07:51 <Lucifer> guru3: luke-jr seems to be developing a sense of humor, can you post a news item about it?
07:52 <ct|kyle> I was thinking we should have waited for the spam for Lucifer
07:53 <luke-jr> >_<
07:54 <ct|kyle> I had the idiot tests down on CT's forms for a few hours and that registered there
07:54 <ct|kyle> about a half hour i mean
07:55 <Lucifer> that was obviously a freudian slip on your part
07:55 <ct|kyle> I took it down to put up my hack i forked of oh your idea
07:56 <Lucifer> my idea? what was my idea?
07:56 <ct|kyle> RM oh
07:56 <luke-jr> oooh, good idea for a captcha type thing
07:56 <luke-jr> "Click the image drawn by Dr. Joe Tron"
07:56 <ct|kyle> the math capcha
07:56 <Lucifer> that was my idea?
07:56 <ct|kyle> i thought so
07:57 <ct|kyle> you probably forked it off of someone else
07:59 <Lucifer> I fear you are crediting me with an idea I didn't ahve
07:59 <Lucifer> but thanks :)
08:00 <Lucifer> I've been pushing recaptcha since I first saw it some years ago
08:01 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: ya, it was guru3
08:01 <ct|kyle> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=191587#191587
08:02 <ct|kyle> only 1.24 years later i implement it into CT's forums, not bad :P
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08:08 <Lucifer> BabyBug: new autopackages on the forums
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08:55 <GodTodd> hrmm...won't let me compile 0.3.0
08:55 <GodTodd> heh
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09:07 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r759 Merged from trunk || [0.3.1] r758 Made sortresources also rewrite any references to resource.d... || [0.3.1] r757 Maps had a similar problem to cockpits where the dtd was imp... || [0.3.1] r756 Merged from trunk || [0.3.1] r755 Build work || [0.3.1] r754 Merged from trunk || [0.3.1] r753 Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview w... || [0.3.1] r752 Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets list
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09:49 <Lucifer> GodTodd: that's no surprise, 0.3.0 is old enough that it may not build on a new compiler, heh
10:08 <guru3> has anyone said that they're doing the os x builds yet?
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10:19 <Lucifer> I talked to nemo earlier today about it
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10:53 <Lizmatic> does anyone have apparitions msn/aim?
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11:22 <z-man> Begone, vile fiend!
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12:08 <z-man> Odd, where did my compilation fixes go?
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12:16 <z-man> Ah, Lucifer squashed them. Bad Lucifer!
12:16 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r760 Merging own work. || [0.3.1] Corrected uninstall script location.... || [0.3.1] Removing dead script parts....
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12:33 <z-man> Oh great, epsy's improved version script also got squashed.
12:41 <PinkTomato> I can't compile win 0.3.
12:41 <PinkTomato> 1, undefined reference to st_PrograName, so probably erlated :)
12:43 <z-man> Possibly.
13:02 <z-man> PinkTomato: ah, no. You need to add tVersion.cpp to the project file.
13:02 <z-man> and have a tTrueVersion.h file generated. It can be empty.
13:04 * z-man awaits how bazaarmagetron handles all the merging mess happening on trunk/0.3.1
13:07 <PinkTomato> z-man: update_version makes a version.h ?
13:08 <PinkTomato> update_version.bat*
13:08 <z-man> I suppose so, I haven't looked at it in a while, but it surely isn't adapted yet to epsy's new stuff.
13:08 <PinkTomato> Oh I see :)
13:09 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8759 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. . minor_version win32/README.txt): dave@davefancella.com: Hopefully converted line endings to DOS line endings
13:10 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8760 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. win32/makedist.bat): dave@davefancella.com: Hopefully fixed line endings in this file too
13:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8761 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (17 files in 8 dirs): dave@davefancella.com: Added camview, from voodoo
13:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8762 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. AUTHORS): dave@davefancella.com: Credited voodoo for camview
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13:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8764 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eCamera.cpp src/tron/gGame.cpp): dave@davefancella.com: Fixed bug where any cockpit widgets listed after a camview were rendered in that camview.
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13:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r764 Restored version script; it too got squashed by accident.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r763 Added ylwrap to ignore list.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r762 Undid accidental copy/paste from root Makefile.am. Whoops.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r761 Redone warning fixes; Lucifer squashed them in his merge.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r760 Merging own work. || [trunk-armagetrona
13:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8765 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (23 files in 8 dirs): dave@davefancella.com: Merged from trunk
13:21 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8766 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac minor_version): dave@davefancella.com: Build work
13:22 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8767 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac src/Makefile.am): dave@davefancella.com: Merged from trunk
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13:24 <z-man> Heh, fun :) 0.3.1 basically got copied over to the trunk.
13:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8769 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs): dave@davefancella.com: Made sortresources also rewrite any references to resource.dtd to the current version
13:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8770 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. Makefile.am src/Makefile.am): dave@davefancella.com: Merged from trunk
13:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8771 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. Makefile.am Makefile.manual src/Makefile.am): Manuel Moos: Merging own work.
13:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8772 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/cockpit/cCamview.cpp): Manuel Moos: Redone warning fixes; Lucifer squashed them in his merge.
13:29 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8773 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/Makefile.am): Manuel Moos: Undid accidental copy/paste from root Makefile.am. Whoops.
13:29 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8774 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. .bzrignore): Manuel Moos: Added ylwrap to ignore list.
13:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8775 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. batch/make/version): Manuel Moos: Restored version script; it too got squashed by accident.
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14:34 <TaZ> Are you happy now, Luke-jr? :P
14:51 <PinkTomato> why might luke-jr be relatively happier now than earlier, taz?
14:54 <PinkTomato> #si ladle 2
14:54 <@armabot> PinkTomato: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ladle 2” at the moment, sorry.
14:54 <PinkTomato> TaZ: like fortress?
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15:04 <TaZ> Because code payed him $40 for his late payments
15:05 <TaZ> I'm not a big fan of fortress, but I play it
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15:10 <PinkTomato> TaZ: I think luke-jr is suspicious of it
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16:06 <luke-jr> TaZ: yeah, code sent me $40 but didn't say anything or such… so now I'm suspicious as to why he sent it :þ
16:06 <luke-jr> did he change his mind, and feel $20 extra was appropriate for a late fee or something? or is he waiting for me to accept it so he can paypal-dispute it?
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17:15 <Concord> team_nonameyet
17:20 <PinkTomato> Hello Concord :)
17:20 <Concord> hiya
17:26 <madmax> #tea
17:26 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): ( (P4@crazy-tronners.com), Ct_Conkord (Concord@ct), voxx1
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17:31 <z-man> Cool, I think I can get us a new trunk bzr branch with history going all the way back.
17:32 <luke-jr> z-man: without breaking the existing trunk bzr checkouts?
17:32 <z-man> No, but since there's no active hack branches going off from there, that's not too much of a trouble.
17:33 <z-man> It would be for 0.2.8, obviously.
17:33 <luke-jr> eh?
17:33 <z-man> Although a redone branch would have the advantage of being recognized a true branch going out from the trunk and not a totally different branch like it is now.
17:33 <luke-jr> I'd still suggest waiting until bzr-svn supports copies at least
17:34 <z-man> You and your copies.
17:34 <luke-jr> :þ
17:34 <z-man> Do we even have single file coplies in our svn repository?
17:35 <z-man> as far as I can tell, those coplies we have are branching or tagging copies, bzr-svn handles those fine (interprets them as branches).
17:35 <luke-jr> pretty sure, yes
17:35 <z-man> Or of course moving stuff about, which I HOPE will now be properly recognized.
17:35 <luke-jr> moving stuff about isn't supported anymore than copying is
17:36 <luke-jr> delete + add in bzr
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17:36 <luke-jr> losing all the history
17:36 <z-man> Hmm, there may be a chance that bzr-svn could translate such moves as bzr moves.
17:37 <luke-jr> bzr doesn't have moves afaik
17:37 <z-man> It does.
17:37 <luke-jr> O.o
17:37 <luke-jr> maybe I read some old docs
17:37 <z-man> maybe.
17:37 <z-man> It doesn't have copies, that's true.
17:43 <z-man> about halfway through
17:44 <luke-jr> ?
17:44 <z-man> with the new trunk test branch
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17:52 <z-man> Hmm. You're right. A "svn mv" isn't translated to a "bzr mv" by bzr-svn at the moment, even though it could. It doesn't destroy history, but it adds nasty gaps, making "bzr blame" not work correctly.
17:53 <z-man> However, the longer we wait, the more bzr merges done will get lost, because they can't be mapped to svn correctly.
17:53 <z-man> Well, guess I'll have a look at the bzr-svn source :)
17:53 <luke-jr> err, it won't let you mix the two?
17:53 <z-man> mix what?
17:54 <luke-jr> Svn and Bzr repos
17:54 <z-man> It does, but by the nature, the translation isn't perfect.
17:54 <z-man> bzr's merges contain far more metadata than svn's merges.
17:54 <luke-jr> right, but I mean
17:54 <luke-jr> for bzr commits, use them from bzr repo
17:55 <luke-jr> only convert svn when it's a svn commit
17:55 <z-man> That may be possible, but difficult.
17:55 <z-man> Typically, whenever one changes bzr-svn's translation, it will consider old converted branches diverged.
18:04 <Lizmatic> BABYBUG, R U SUM KINDOF RELATIONSHIP GURU, GAWD
18:05 <BabyBug> lmao
18:05 <guru3> what?
18:05 <z-man> It worked :)
18:06 <BabyBug> lol guru3 shhhhh :P
18:06 * guru3 furrows brow
18:06 <z-man> I now have a bzr trunk branch going back all the way to my initial CVS commit :)
18:06 <guru3> :o cool
18:06 <guru3> but to be honest, bzr confuses me a bit
18:07 <z-man> Then just use checkouts and pretend it's svn :)
18:07 <guru3> i haven't worked out the whole difference between pull, checkout and whatever else there is
18:08 <guru3> i hope the webhost has bzr installed
18:08 <z-man> Also, there seems to be a way to put the bzr metadata into svn revprops
18:09 <guru3> they don't :<
18:09 <z-man> which would mean we can keep the current trunk metadata for the new trunk.
18:09 <guru3> that sounds good
18:09 <z-man> I think. They don't say which metadata is saved.
18:09 <guru3> i like the idea of keeping the history
18:10 <z-man> luke-jr pointed out a valid problem with file moves, though. bzr-svn doesn't translate them properly.
18:10 * z-man really goes source diving
18:10 <guru3> :D
18:10 <guru3> i haven't really done much lately
18:10 <guru3> but the online server browser is up again!
18:10 <guru3> even if it doesn't do special characters properly :/
18:10 <guru3> i think there's something with my server and hating utf-8
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18:14 <luke-jr> XD
18:14 <guru3> irc supports it
18:14 <guru3> why can't php
18:15 <luke-jr> actually, IRC does not support UTF-8
18:15 <luke-jr> are you sending the header with PHP?
18:15 <guru3> i should clarify, screen, and irssi suppor utf-8
18:16 <luke-jr> ☺
18:16 <guru3> it's not a problem on the web side, the php running in cron
18:16 <luke-jr> uh
18:16 <guru3> that loads it into a db
18:16 <luke-jr> guru3: the webserver needs to know it's UTF-8 too
18:16 <guru3> that bit doesn't work right
18:16 <luke-jr> oh
18:16 <guru3> it does
18:16 <guru3> the entire site has been utf8 for a while
18:16 <guru3> it's set in the html headers
18:17 <luke-jr> is the new server browser using wrtl's XML thing?
18:17 <luke-jr> HTTP headers trump HTML headers
18:17 <guru3> it's using his serverinfo.php
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18:18 <guru3> but i wrote the loop that does all the pinging to work with the database format that the site used to use
18:20 <luke-jr> https://answers.launchpad.net/yandere/+question/56611
18:22 <z-man> Bah. storing the bzr metadata is not implemented yet in bzr 1.3
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18:22 * z-man fetches something more current
18:22 <Concord> hi k-yo come to cafe
18:22 <guru3> and grrr
18:22 <guru3> php hell
18:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r8776 /www/mainsite/includes/header.php: utf8 in html header
18:29 <guru3> ok this bothers me
18:30 <guru3> the hex is correct
18:30 <guru3> the Fortress Cafe e with the accent according to hexeditor is E9
18:30 <guru3> which is the correct hex for utf8
18:30 <guru3> so why doesn't it show up right
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18:32 <TaZ> No luke-jr. He knew what he did was wrong, so he payed you. I don't know why he payed 20$ extra, but it would be good to give it back seeing as he has a new baby girl and family to take care of
18:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r765 The -R flag for “date” is a GNU extension. Make an RCF822 da...
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18:48 <FoFo> hello everyone
18:48 <guru3> hi
18:49 <BabyBug> hiho
18:49 <@armabot> lpbugs: [314784] batch/make/version is broken
18:55 <guru3> i think i've hunted down the problem
19:01 <guru3> hurrah the server list does utf-8 right now
19:01 <BabyBug> horrah for guru3 \o/
19:02 <guru3> http://armagetronad.net/servers.php <-- it werx! :D
19:03 <ct|kyle> guru3: nice :)
19:03 <guru3> now to get the shit on the side back
19:05 <K-Yo> .tea
19:05 <K-Yo> #tea
19:05 <@armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): -»|appa, -»|freako, <<~luAp~>>, AshitakA, Ct_Conkord
19:06 <ct|kyle> you should add my capcha to forum registration. http://crazy-tronners.com/numgentest3.php
19:07 <guru3> "Would you beleive it? 112 servers showing online!"
19:07 <guru3> that minus looks like an equals
19:07 <K-Yo> guru3, wow
19:07 <K-Yo> guru3, do you know: http://ops.warrock.net/
19:07 <K-Yo> taht's what I hope to see in arma in few years :P
19:07 <K-Yo> but still huge work to do :P
19:08 <guru3> there was something close to that once
19:08 <guru3> but arma wasn't ready for it yet
19:08 <guru3> and it's been lost :/
19:08 <K-Yo> incredible teams/clans/players system
19:08 <ct|kyle> guru3: that is not too hard to take out the second line
19:08 <guru3> i really like my technicolor captcha
19:09 <ct|kyle> where is that?
19:09 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure
19:10 <guru3> finding it...
19:11 <guru3> argh the site it's on is broken -_-
19:11 <ct|kyle> heh
19:19 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
19:23 <K-Yo> #apropos armab
19:23 <@armabot> K-Yo: armablah
19:23 <K-Yo> #help armablah
19:23 <@armabot> K-Yo: (armablah [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armablah at the RSS feed <http://www.google.com/blogsearch_feeds?as_q=&hl=en&ctz=-60&c2coff=1&as_epq=&as_eq=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=a&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2000&as_maxd=23&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2008&lr=lang_en&safe=active&scoring=d&q=armagetron+OR+armagetronad&ie=utf-8&num=10&output=rss>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns (1 more message)
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19:39 <TaZ> epsy
19:46 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
19:46 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 28.6°F (1:46 PM EST on January 07, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 26.6°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Falling).
19:55 * BabyBug cuddles ct|kyle
19:55 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
19:55 <BabyBug> What ever happened to you not cuddling me again? :P
19:56 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
19:56 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I'm just fake cuddling you, :P
19:56 <BabyBug> ><
20:01 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: LIAR
20:02 <Lizmatic> ct|kyle: good, then i'll wont have to murder you
20:13 <FoFo> lizlizliz
20:13 <FoFo> u r here?
20:14 <luke-jr> http://playfortress.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/your-method-to-our-madness/
20:14 <luke-jr> hey
20:14 <luke-jr> I want glowing walls!
20:15 <Concord> lol
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20:17 <Concord> hi
20:17 <MrBougo> hello
20:18 <luke-jr> MrBougo: di
20:18 <MrBougo> luke-jr: uh
20:18 <MrBougo> the roman number?
20:18 <MrBougo> the webradio?
20:24 <AshitakA> walls on fire, you get it when you grind hard enough...
20:24 <luke-jr> omfg that would be sweet
20:25 <AshitakA> just imagine
20:25 <luke-jr> I imagine when you hit 100 speed
20:25 <luke-jr> and you're close to a wall
20:25 <luke-jr> it catches fire
20:25 <Lizmatic> FoFo, I'm here
20:25 <luke-jr> which can spread to other nearby walls
20:25 <luke-jr> but eventually burns out
20:25 <luke-jr> and you die if you drive into the fire
20:26 <AshitakA> yes or if you get anperfect edge grind
20:26 <TaZ> aya
20:26 <TaZ> Thanks luke-jr :)
20:26 <luke-jr> ?
20:26 <AshitakA> like no space between walls
20:26 <luke-jr> AshitakA: there is always space
20:27 <AshitakA> but sometimes its impossible to drive between
20:27 <Concord> only if cycle_rubber_minidistance is set >0
20:28 <AshitakA> it depends on the grind
20:28 <Concord> well yeah that too :)
20:29 <AshitakA> concord you come to the match?
20:30 <Concord> yeah!
20:30 <AshitakA> ok see you there
20:30 <Concord> =}
20:31 <TaZ> I need to transfer a huge file to someone (around 6 GBs), which would probably be the fastest way to transfer it
20:31 <TaZ> ?
20:32 <luke-jr> TaZ: where?
20:32 <Concord> flashdrive :)
20:32 <luke-jr> just one person?
20:32 <TaZ> yea
20:32 <TaZ> No
20:32 <luke-jr> UDP
20:32 <TaZ> they live far away
20:32 <luke-jr> then rsync ☺
20:32 <luke-jr> actually no
20:33 <luke-jr> cut it into maybe 100 MB/file
20:33 <luke-jr> then UDP send each
20:33 <luke-jr> then MD5 check
20:33 <TaZ> ok
20:33 <TaZ> is that the fastest though?
20:33 <luke-jr> in theory, but it would be slow cuz you're doing it XD
20:33 <TaZ> -_-
20:34 <luke-jr> taking human time into account, the fastest way would probably be running a webserver and a downloader than can resume
20:34 <TaZ> I really dont feel like cutting such a big file down
20:34 <luke-jr> actually
20:34 <luke-jr> TaZ: what is your upload speed?
20:34 <TaZ> hmm let me check
20:34 <Concord> yeah go make freehostia account and upload it there or w/e
20:34 <Concord> idk, i'll shut up
20:34 <luke-jr> Concord: wtf, no
20:35 <luke-jr> ok TaZ do this
20:35 <luke-jr> split it in 2 pieces
20:35 <luke-jr> burn each to a DVD+R
20:35 <luke-jr> hop on a plane
20:35 <luke-jr> put them in the PC and recombine
20:35 <luke-jr> that's probably fastest
20:35 <TaZ> upload iss 400k
20:35 <luke-jr> yeah, use a plane
20:36 <TaZ> Online luke-jr -_
20:36 <luke-jr> -.-
20:37 <TaZ> That doesn't mean t stop throwing out ideas
20:39 <TaZ> what about MSN? xD
20:39 <Concord> put it in a flash drive and mail it
20:39 <Concord> or dvd+r or w/e
20:40 <TaZ> It needs to be delivered like..today
20:40 <epsy> ct|kyle, I can't login on your servers
20:40 <Concord> then i'd say you're in trouble
20:43 <ct|kyle> epsy: what one?
20:43 <epsy> @ls epsy
20:43 <teabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ seems to be on CT Fortress Server - |x| vs. Random Team - Please do NOT join right now.
20:44 <ct|kyle> epsy: i think binary needs updated
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21:07 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
21:12 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
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21:43 <nsh22> hey
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21:46 <nsh22> hey
21:46 <nsh22> #weather barrie
21:46 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Barrie Tall Oaks West End, Barrie, Ontario is 21.9°F (3:43 PM EST on January 07, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 15.8°F. Pressure: 28.97 in 980.9 hPa (Steady).
21:47 <nsh22> #g 22F in C
21:47 <@armabot> nsh22: 22 degrees Fahrenheit = -5.55555556 degrees Celsius
21:47 <nsh22> #traffic
21:49 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc238035.static.is.airbites.ro] has joined #armagetron
21:49 <K-Yo> emmy_arma, come CT fort now ;)
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21:55 <nsh22> hey pink, my server is working
21:55 <PinkTomato> I thought it was working :)
21:55 <PinkTomato> ?
21:55 <nsh22> well, the shoting wasnt, but now it is
21:56 <epsy> "Hey it works!" "I thought it was working :S"
21:56 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
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22:19 <nsh22> hey concord
22:20 <Concord> oh hey nsh22
22:20 <Concord> I'm going to be working on school work until around 5:30, then maybe dinner, but tonight definitely
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22:25 <nsh22> kk, btw its neal
22:25 <Concord> yeah I figured by the name ^^ :D
22:25 <nsh22> :{'
22:25 <nsh22> :P*
22:26 <nsh22> do you have a teamspeak?
22:27 <TaZ> I do haha
22:27 <Concord> no, i'll leave this open tho
22:27 <nsh22> we can use mine
22:27 <nsh22> or do you not have teamspeak at all?
22:28 <TaZ> Anyone know the best program to cut files into segments on a mac
22:28 <TaZ> ?
22:28 <Concord> i could install, but I don't have a mic, so. . .
22:28 <nsh22> oh ok
22:28 <TaZ> oh its neal haha
22:28 -!- davidpinto [n=davidpin@89.240.99.40] has joined #armagetron
22:28 <TaZ> hey neal
22:28 <nsh22> haha lol
22:28 <Concord> @g cutting files into segments on a mac program free
22:28 <Concord> hey 2020
22:28 <teabot> Concord: http://www.rocketdownload.com/software/cut-mpeg.html - Cut Mpeg Free Downloads - Mpeg Splitter splits MPEG file into ...
22:28 <nsh22> <==== is a noob at programiong/developing
22:28 <davidpinto> hey
22:28 <davidpinto> hehehe
22:28 <Concord> LOL!
22:28 <davidpinto> not sure how to get my nickname
22:29 <TaZ> I mean the best program from experience
22:29 -!- davidpinto is now known as i2020
22:29 <TaZ> You making a server neal?
22:29 <i2020> wow
22:29 <nsh22> ya, i ended mine with dragonserver
22:29 <i2020> i remembered the password!
22:29 <nsh22> i m going with luke jr
22:30 <i2020> this is as close to a meeting as well get, Concord
22:30 <TaZ> oo nice
22:30 <TaZ> what happened to dragonmaster's servers?
22:30 <Concord> yeah, unless i buy a microphone,
22:30 <nsh22> i dont liek it (i think the install went bad) it wouldnt load my maps
22:31 <nsh22> and i found sum stuff about code hunter
22:31 <TaZ> ah
22:31 <epsy> hello i2020
22:31 <TaZ> omg
22:31 <TaZ> He's not a bad person
22:31 <i2020> hi epsy
22:31 <nsh22> have u seen him on armagetronad forums?
22:31 <TaZ> btw epsy, me and killer signed up for an American server...screenshots included
22:31 <TaZ> Yes, that was a year ago
22:31 <i2020> glad there are some oldie players still hacking it out
22:31 <nsh22> well, w/e
22:32 <epsy> yeah, you did even sign up two times for an american server
22:32 <TaZ> It's not like he's like that now
22:32 <nsh22> i need the support as well
22:32 <i2020> your skills must be phenomenal
22:32 <TaZ> xDD
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22:32 <nsh22> form luke jr
22:32 <PinkTomato> TaZ: are you trying to split 6GB file and then send it down a 384Kbit connection?
22:32 <TaZ> lmao, don't judge me :)
22:32 <nsh22> ew,
22:33 <TaZ> But yes, my upload speed is that
22:33 <PinkTomato> You know that will take 35 hours?
22:33 <PinkTomato> Burn it onto a DVD and send first class
22:34 <TaZ> Its more like 4 gbs
22:34 <i2020> hi g5, flex, fonkay, guru3, lucifer, madmax, wow mazuffer, and wrtlprnft if he is about...
22:34 <TaZ> I tried FTP but we ran into some problems
22:34 <PinkTomato> even more reason, It will fit on one DVD
22:34 <TaZ> it's driving me a tad bit crazy
22:34 <PinkTomato> It will take 24 Hours then
22:34 <PinkTomato> Post is faster
22:34 <TaZ> lol
22:34 <Flex> hi i2020, is that the real 2020?
22:35 <TaZ> I don't want to pay for a stamp
22:35 * TaZ waits for the cheap remarks
22:35 <PinkTomato> it is 31p!
22:35 <Lizmatic> you only get 5 cents from your mom taz, i can understand why you dont want a stamp
22:35 <PinkTomato> less hassle
22:35 <i2020> as real as we can get here....
22:35 <TaZ> oh hai Lizmatic
22:35 <PinkTomato> nsh22: did dragon give refund?
22:35 <madmax> hello i2020
22:35 <nsh22> no
22:36 <PinkTomato> aww, evil them
22:36 <madmax> long time!
22:36 <nsh22> i dont care, im not sure if code hunter had my infoavail able so i wanted to get out as soon as possible
22:36 <i2020> yeah! you still based in portugal?
22:36 <madmax> yeah
22:37 <i2020> how is your game playing?
22:37 <Concord> his is great
22:38 <PinkTomato> TaZ: I highly suggest the snail mail method
22:38 <TaZ> well you see
22:38 <TaZ> I have a lot of bad luck
22:38 <Concord> its 6gb, right?
22:38 <PinkTomato> If something goes wrong with the download it will go wrong
22:38 <madmax> pfft, played today after some weeks
22:38 <TaZ> My dvd drive broke
22:39 <PinkTomato> hmm.
22:39 <TaZ> So I'm not burning anything
22:40 <PinkTomato> You don't really have any other choice
22:40 <TaZ> The file I have is on my ipod though
22:40 <PinkTomato> DSL is just not up to transferring it
22:40 <TaZ> I'll just send the ipod to my friend
22:40 <PinkTomato> that's a good idea, haven't you got a USB file sticky thingy?
22:40 <PinkTomato> whatever the latest name for them is now?
22:40 <TaZ> I'm cheap :D
22:40 <TaZ> haha
22:41 <TaZ> I just recently got a usb stick thoough
22:41 <TaZ> It's not enough to hold that much data
22:41 <i2020> hope to see you on the grid some time....
22:41 <PinkTomato> TaZ: Hard Drives are easily damaged
22:41 <i2020> we'll see how it goes... not sure if i will catch the bug again...
22:42 <PinkTomato> espically iPod ones, sending in the post would be unwise
22:42 <i2020> but concord has it bad...
22:42 <TaZ> it's an old one
22:42 <PinkTomato> USB Stick how big is yours?
22:42 <Concord> ha
22:42 <TaZ> i have no use for it anymore
22:42 <PinkTomato> well it's just it'll need a lot of padding
22:43 <Concord> you'll catch it after one big cafe round
22:43 <PinkTomato> it'll cost a tiny bit to post
22:43 <i2020> heheheh
22:43 <i2020> what's the state of play regarding making vids?
22:44 <i2020> has it been facilitated?
22:44 * nsh22 is going to make dinner, bbl
22:44 <TaZ> hmm
22:44 <TaZ> i hope not a lot
22:45 <Concord> em, aarec is still the format, I've tried to but there isn't a good free program available for macs
22:46 <PinkTomato> oh 2020 video person!
22:46 <Concord> what would be great would be a converter from aarec to ...
22:46 <Concord> lol
22:46 <PinkTomato> I saw the videos hehe :)
22:46 <Concord> were considering streaming online for matches
22:46 <i2020> i had to buy some software to record a playback... bit of a hassle..
22:46 <PinkTomato> we were, or we are?
22:46 <i2020> PinkTomato: :)
22:47 <Concord> having a spectator set up 2 cameras like in those old local games
22:47 <Concord> have them be fixed cameras and adjust them on either end of the fortress
22:47 <Concord> for a broadcast
22:47 <Concord> we're still working on getting it from the recorder to the streaming
22:47 <Concord> I don't we'll be able to do it with aa recorder
22:47 <Concord> but with a video capture it will be possible
22:48 <Concord> also, its now possible to have a server generate a grid image
22:48 <i2020> um... sorry... you want to stream a game?
22:48 <PinkTomato> Why?
22:48 <Concord> yeah
22:48 <PinkTomato> can't you just spectate it?
22:48 <PinkTomato> it would use less bandwidth
22:48 <PinkTomato> = less lag for the players
22:48 <i2020> grid image?
22:48 <Concord> if this gets going we can't have 1,048,560 spectators
22:49 <i2020> hehehe
22:49 <PinkTomato> but it will still use less bandwidth :)
22:49 <Concord> its a server generate image every x seconds, which can be uploaded live
22:49 <i2020> that's future proof visioning for you...
22:49 <Concord> like a animated map
22:49 <PinkTomato> I think If we could generate 1,000,000 players
22:49 <PinkTomato> someone would make a relay
22:49 <Concord> P4 has it going for his styball
22:49 <Concord> i'll find the link
22:50 <i2020> wait a mo... if we have one stream, can't we simply use mirrors, and let players alter what camera view they have... that is, to spectate in a streamed version
22:50 <Concord> exactly, its the same for the server as just having 1 spec
22:51 <i2020> that's it... but why this notion of having two fixed cameras?
22:51 <i2020> surely players should be able to move the camera around, follow other players etc...
22:51 <Concord> oh, that was just a scenario for when one couldn't choose his camera angle
22:51 <i2020> ah
22:51 <i2020> also like the idea that someone could have multiple cameras set up
22:51 <Concord> in the case that a spectator video captures the match and he streams it
22:51 <PinkTomato> I would how an FPS spectator camera would work
22:52 <i2020> and they could compile an ongoing commentary of the game, like a director of a football game
22:52 <PinkTomato> Team spectator message :
22:52 <PinkTomato> :)
22:52 <Concord> yep, stream the video and audio
22:53 <Concord> perhaps two commentators
22:53 <i2020> but i suspect that may be something which designers can produce later on... once large enough player figures manifest
22:53 <Concord> this would be for maybe the quaterfinals onward
22:53 <Concord> in a scenario with >512 teams or something
22:53 <i2020> for now, i just need a simple recording, playback, i guess i have the software to record the games and then edit it
22:53 <i2020> yeah, i guess i have the necessary stuff...
22:53 <PinkTomato> Team Fortress 2 wouldn't be able to cough up 1,000,000 Players, so i'm wondering how we would do it?
22:54 <i2020> tf2?
22:54 <Concord> ok, I'll make one tonight and send it to you
22:54 <Concord> its some other game
22:54 <Concord> because fortress is better than that game
22:54 <Concord> by far
22:54 <i2020> may i say at this point that i am amazed at the vitality of your blog, concord, as well as the others who are contributing
22:55 <Concord> don't tell anyone this, but I'm a bit suprised too,
22:55 <Concord> oh wait we're in a 39 person channel *oops* lol
22:55 <PinkTomato> xD
22:55 <i2020> i mentioned it to two colleagues, and they started to get excited... i may even persuade them to play the game
22:55 <i2020> hehehe
22:56 <akira_arma> 2020 :O
22:56 <akira_arma> .tea
22:56 <akira_arma> @tea
22:56 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:57 <i2020> time for tea?
22:57 <i2020> its a bot, isn't it?
22:57 <PinkTomato> @tea
22:57 <teabot> PinkTomato: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:57 <Concord> http://armagetron.pl/ is p4's grid image of sty
22:57 <akira_arma> fortress guys
22:57 <akira_arma> cafe?=
22:57 <Concord> I'm half-working , right now
22:58 <i2020> i'm game...:)
22:59 <Concord> tho I could take a break
22:59 <i2020> i find the team flag game good as well
22:59 <akira_arma> ugh
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22:59 <akira_arma> ;)
23:00 <i2020> though they have changed the settings a little which makes for a little lag-interrupt
23:00 <i2020> mentally, that is
23:01 <Concord> @tea
23:01 <teabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): Ct_Concord (Concord@ct), plop, |x| Raiden
23:02 <Flex> i2020, where have you been?!
23:03 <i2020> hehhe in the real world
23:07 <ct|kyle> i2020: The arma world is better than that
23:07 <TaZ> :o pinktomatos
23:07 <TaZ> Pinktomato *
23:08 <PinkTomato> TaZ: ?
23:08 <TaZ> Whatever happened to our server idea?
23:08 <PinkTomato> TaZ: ran out of time
23:10 <TaZ> aww
23:10 <i2020> it is indeed
23:10 <i2020> though i spent 3 months on a thailand beach and i can say that it pretty neat too
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23:13 <Concord> @tea
23:14 <teabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): archetype, Ct_Concord (Concord@ct), MRZ3r}@, plop
23:14 <@armabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Linux - Demo ...
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23:17 <Flex> i2020, nice
23:18 <TaZ> Will we ever get started on it again Pinktomato?
23:19 <i2020> heheh can't play and do this irc thing
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23:20 <i2020> wow thanks Concord ... good to play after so long
23:30 <guru3> z-man: Lucifer: think that one thread should be locked?
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23:45 <z-man> guru3: I don't care. It's not as if it's going to turn into a flamewar anytime soon.
23:45 <z-man> And while it is an x internal affair, outside comments can still be allowed.
23:46 <guru3> that's roughly what i was thinking
23:46 * z-man is actively avoiding to read the x forums
23:46 <guru3> i don't read other tron forums
23:47 <guru3> it's a fatal flaw
23:47 <z-man> nah.
23:47 <guru3> but really, i don't see how i can be ordered to lock a thread like that guy is trying
23:47 <z-man> If people want something from us, they can post on our forums.
23:48 <z-man> that's another reason :) He's in no position to demand a lock.
23:48 <ct|kyle> I vote for Dr. Jot to hijack it
23:48 <z-man> Err, she?
23:48 <ct|kyle> joe*
23:48 <guru3> ct|kyle: that's an excellent idea
23:49 <guru3> and i have no clue what sex any of them are
23:50 <Concord> @tea
23:51 <teabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (12/32): CtxWoned, CT_emmy, fingerbib, juice keeper, Pink Tomatoes, plop, slowpoke, |XC| Freeze, |x| $ubzero, |x| FoFo, ~|DS|~|JS|~, ¦×¦ Hoax
23:59 <nsh22> back
Log from 2009-01-08:
--- Day changed Thu Jan 08 2009
00:04 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@unaffiliated/smoothice] has joined #armagetron
00:04 <nsh22> hey smooth
00:06 <smoothice> nsh22; hi.... you are?
00:06 <nsh22> neal
00:06 <smoothice> ah... ok... hi
00:06 <nsh22> i ended my server
00:07 <nsh22> . H . e . l . l . o . nsh22 . H . e . l . l . o .
00:07 <nsh22> lol
00:07 <nsh22> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Hello nsh22 ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
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00:07 <nsh22> x\xxxxxx\xxxxxxx\xxxx\x8 nsh22 \xxxg
00:07 <nsh22> xx\xxxxxx*xxxxxxx*xxxx\* nsh22 x\x...m
00:07 <nsh22> xxx*xSweetxxxxxDreamsx * nsh22 x*xc
00:07 <nsh22> ???
00:07 <nsh22> ... ((( nsh22 ))) ... nsh22 gives nsh22 a happy to see ya hug! ... ((( nsh22 ))) ...
00:08 <nsh22> 'P'Ô'ü'Ñ'Ç'ë' nsh22 Tackles nsh22 in a great BIG hug!! 'P'Ô'ü'Ñ'Ç'ë'
00:08 <smoothice> nsh22: why ended?
00:08 <nsh22> becaue i dont like the host. i think the install was bad on it and there was barely any configs
00:08 <nsh22> want something??! MtDew !..!Sprite!..! COke~..! 7°UP !..... ! Pepsi !... Diet ...!Dr.Pepr!...!Grape!...!RtBeer!...!Bud !....... !Bud lite!....!COORS®!
00:08 <smoothice> what host?
00:08 <nsh22> dragonservers
00:08 <smoothice> o
00:09 <smoothice> ok
00:09 <nsh22> . H . e . l . l . o . smoothice . H . e . l . l . o .
00:09 <Flex> z-man, i don't think she's demanding for a lock, i don't see that anywhere.. i think she's requesting one so to speak.
00:09 <Flex> doesn't need a lock, you're right
00:10 <z-man> yeah, I was just formulating it that way for emphasis :)
00:10 <Flex> so it looks bad? you evil person
00:11 <Flex> jk, but yes it's an x internal affair.. but the server was hijacked by epsy so this isn't x server we're talking about anymore, i think
00:11 <Flex> i made a post!
00:14 <nsh22> nice
00:15 <Flex> wrtlprnft needs to make it clear and resolve this issue, because i don't think we all know exactly who's server it is anymore, so we're arguing over rights that might not be ours faily. if that's the case, then we'll stop everything and whoever is in charge can say the final say and we'll move on. with that said, then if epsy believes he owns the server, it shouldn't be labeled as x server.
00:15 <Flex> because it's clearly creating these types of drama..
00:18 <PinkTomato> why did english become the preferred language?
00:18 <PinkTomato> (of the world)
00:18 * madmax loves tron drama
00:18 <PinkTomato> it is too irregular
00:18 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, The british empire? (guess)
00:19 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Yeah, my/our fault i guess :)
00:19 <Flex> english is for stupid people, i prefer Mandarin
00:19 * BabyBug isn't British
00:19 <PinkTomato> thats why i made it a choice :)
00:20 <PinkTomato> To be fair, wales had no power when britian did what it did.
00:20 <Flex> what is wales?
00:20 <PinkTomato> Flex: I would like to learn mandarian if it wasn't so bloody difficult! :D
00:22 <BabyBug> Wales is a country...
00:22 <smoothice> prove it
00:22 <PinkTomato> go to maps.google.com
00:22 <nsh22> lol
00:22 <smoothice> lol
00:22 <PinkTomato> scroll right a bit
00:22 <Flex> maps.google.com, says no
00:22 <smoothice> #myip
00:23 <@armabot> smoothice: 83.243.117.49
00:23 <smoothice> muahahaha
00:23 <PinkTomato> umm...
00:23 * nsh22 hacks smooths ip and puts hi on the screen
00:23 <PinkTomato> well wales is a country
00:23 <PinkTomato> Just accept it :)
00:24 <smoothice> nah
00:24 <smoothice> lol
00:24 <nsh22> it WAS a country, it is now part of Great Britain so therefore part of the united kingdom
00:24 * smoothice mehs at nsh22
00:24 <BabyBug> wrong nsh22
00:24 <PinkTomato> A Kingdom is a group of countries
00:24 <nsh22> lol
00:25 <PinkTomato> The whole United bit
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00:25 <nsh22> im not up on my british history (even tho we are part of the commonwealth
00:25 <PinkTomato> You need more than one country to be united :)
00:25 <Flex> Lizmatic, wo ai ni, mei yi ye.
00:25 <BabyBug> Wales is not part of the UK!
00:25 <smoothice> nsh22: commonwealth schmmonwealth
00:25 <nsh22> i agree
00:26 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: How is it not?
00:26 <Flex> Gu dan de wo, xiang nian shui, shui ming bai?
00:26 <BabyBug> Proof ---> http://www2.meridiantv.com/itvlocal_docs/uploads/flags.jpg
00:26 <BabyBug> xD
00:26 <nsh22> ENGLISH IS THE ONLY LANGUAGE SPOKEN N TRON! god... :P
00:26 <smoothice> nsh22: prove it
00:26 * nsh22 is referncing the post on arma
00:27 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: OK, you have a fair point :)
00:27 <BabyBug> ^^
00:27 <BabyBug> and we were missed out on the map of europe that one time =x
00:27 <Flex> that part of UK, simply belongs to England..
00:27 <Flex> wasn't even a fight
00:27 <smoothice> PinkTomato: no response from vaserv :/
00:28 <PinkTomato> smoothice: Like I said, just go for it ;)
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00:28 <nsh22> 6 ppl so far are joining the tronic bowl (acccording to my fb group)
00:28 <PinkTomato> only 250 to go
00:28 <nsh22> lol
00:28 <PinkTomato> i won't Join a facebook group, then you would be able to see my face ;)
00:28 <nsh22> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=34135542763
00:28 <nsh22> go join
00:29 <nsh22> NOW lol
00:29 <nsh22> jkjk
00:29 <nsh22> lol then join the event
00:29 <nsh22> http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/event.php?eid=43719975797
00:30 <smoothice> meh
00:30 <nsh22> or do what i did and change my pic to a cartoon
00:30 <PinkTomato> but then you'll still see my face...
00:30 <nsh22> ^
00:30 <nsh22> ||
00:30 <PinkTomato> But then people will think I'm a cartoon
00:30 <nsh22> so? we play a cartoon
00:30 <nsh22> ho wmany players are going to be in this?
00:31 <nsh22> nvm, 512
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01:10 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: that's basically what I told taz too
01:11 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I'ld be suprised if you had a facebook by will :)
01:12 <nsh22> lke, did u seee codehunters control panel?
01:12 <nsh22> luke*
01:14 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah, and he claims he's just a happy customer, not the hoster
01:14 <nsh22> ya i saw that
01:14 <luke-jr> and for the record, he did make good on the $20
01:15 <nsh22> i deactivated my server and changed my info just incase he does have access to my info
01:15 <nsh22> oh well thats good
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01:15 <nsh22> finnally shamed him into it?
01:20 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: did you reach a resolution though?
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01:30 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: yeah
01:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: nah, supposedly he changed his mind on his own
01:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: he sent me $40 for some reason; I refunded haldf
01:31 <luke-jr> taz implied/said he's trying to do some kind of reform
01:31 <PinkTomato> ah I see :)
01:31 <luke-jr> he made good, so I'm ok with that
01:40 <nsh22> ya taz keeps saying hes changing t6o a better person
01:40 * nsh22 has ate untill he feels sick, again
01:44 <smoothice> nsh22: lol
01:46 <Concord> lol
01:57 <Concord> pinktomato you still around tonight
01:58 <PinkTomato> For about 10mins to an hour :)
01:59 <Concord> ok, cya there, is it on the master list, or private?
01:59 <PinkTomato> Ah, did you want me to set it up the rotation now? or just test the settings?
02:00 <Concord> just test the settings
02:00 <PinkTomato> OK :). copying settings now
02:01 <Concord> okiedokie
02:01 <Concord> :I
02:01 <Concord> no capital I, ah
02:01 <smoothice> Who says okiedokie anymore?
02:01 <smoothice> lol
02:02 * Concord does
02:02 * smoothice says "Ok... w/e"
02:02 <Concord> okiedokie thats swell
02:02 * ct|kyle says okiedokie
02:02 * smoothice meh
02:02 <ct|kyle> :P
02:02 <Concord> looks like you are the only fellow around these parts that does not
02:03 <smoothice> nsh22 doesn't
02:03 <Concord> 1nd thing 2st
02:04 <smoothice> 3st
02:04 <smoothice> lol
02:04 <smoothice> 3rd
02:04 <smoothice> 3st
02:04 <Concord> 9rd
02:04 <Concord> 9rd=nerd
02:04 <Concord> 2th=tooth
02:04 <smoothice> LOL!
02:04 <Concord> 4st=forest
02:04 <smoothice> 4est
02:04 <Concord> fourst
02:04 <Concord> eh
02:04 <ct|kyle> have them pick from a list randomly
02:05 <ct|kyle> once picked take it out, reset the list at EOM
02:05 <smoothice> #alias add fourest say 4st!
02:05 <ct|kyle> or start of Round 1
02:05 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:05 <smoothice> #fourest
02:05 <@armabot> 4st!
02:05 <Concord> #alias add forest say 4st
02:06 <@armabot> Concord: The operation succeeded.
02:06 <Concord> #forest
02:06 <@armabot> 4st
02:06 <smoothice> #alias remove fourest
02:06 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:06 <smoothice> #fourest
02:06 <Concord> #alias add nerd say 9rd
02:06 <@armabot> Concord: The operation succeeded.
02:06 <Concord> #alias add tooth say 2th
02:06 <@armabot> Concord: The operation succeeded.
02:06 * PinkTomato does not understand what you are doing.
02:06 <smoothice> #alias add TheCord say that's Concord
02:06 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:07 <smoothice> #TheCord
02:07 <@armabot> that's Concord
02:07 <Concord> lol
02:07 <PinkTomato> @i18n tooth. Isn't it already exist?
02:07 <teabot> PinkTomato: t4. I3t it a5y e4?
02:07 <Concord> you #nerd
02:07 <smoothice> #nerd you are, Concord!
02:07 <@armabot> 9rd
02:07 <Concord> it has to be first eh?
02:07 <Concord> anyway. . .
02:07 <smoothice> yeah
02:08 <PinkTomato> Concord: Sorry, I was copying the wrong files
02:08 <smoothice> #alias add YouAreANerd You are a nerd, $1.
02:08 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:08 <smoothice> #YouAreANerd Concord
02:08 <smoothice> #YouAreANerd Concord
02:08 <Concord> lol, np we can just try, later if you have to go
02:09 <nsh22> wtf did i miss
02:09 <smoothice> lol
02:12 <Concord> not much
02:13 <PinkTomato> #sd "S P O R K"
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02:16 <PinkTomato> #sd S%20P%20O%20R%20K
02:16 <PinkTomato> Concord: up and running :)
02:16 <PinkTomato> armabot is just being stroppy with me
02:17 <Concord> kk whats it called
02:17 <ct|kyle> #armaservers
02:17 <PinkTomato> S P O R K
02:17 <@armabot> ct|kyle: This data is 46 seconds old; -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (11/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Wild West =CTF Shooting= (8/10), Birdy's Nest (Oddest Version Of Loose DF) (7/8), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (7/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (7/14), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (6/12), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d (2 more messages)
02:18 <ct|kyle> #si S P O R K
02:18 <@armabot> ct|kyle: S P O R K: Players (1/26): Pink Tomatoes (Pink\_Tomatoes@forums)
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02:19 <ct|kyle> Concord: ^^
02:19 <Concord> kk
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02:24 <nsh22> wher3 r we meeting concord
02:24 <Concord> pink tomatoes spork server, is where i am atm
02:25 <Lucifer> guru3: heh, no, lock it when it degenerates into a big-time flame war, but it probably won't
02:25 <nsh22> kk ill be ther ub a while
02:26 <Concord> kk
02:27 <ct|kyle> it's gone far enough for the dr to get a call though :D
02:28 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: !
02:28 <PinkTomato> :)
02:28 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: ?
02:28 <luke-jr> nsh22: u know I see email long before forum PM
02:29 <Lucifer> hey, in that thread where you were talking about alpha2, your problems installing, were they from the tarball?
02:29 <PinkTomato> sorry for my rudeness, I tested your patch,
02:30 <PinkTomato> it seemed that the input was ahead of graphics?
02:30 <PinkTomato> I need to test that on 0.2.8, sounds like a rubbish machine i was using
02:30 <PinkTomato> Regarding windows build, I used Bzr.
02:31 <PinkTomato> Compiling the release version failed
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02:31 <PinkTomato> had the underscore problem i said earlier
02:31 <PinkTomato> but the debug did not have this, so couldn't make a check
02:32 <Lucifer> ah, afaik, nobody's updated the 0.3.1 branch for the windows build
02:32 <Lucifer> I can't yet because I can't run the makedist.bat file (or any batch file) in wine
02:33 <PinkTomato> yeah, I had to add files, and I couldn't get the versioning correct
02:33 <PinkTomato> but it was compiling so i was happy :)
02:33 <Lucifer> there's two new files added that might make the windows build break anyway
02:33 <Lucifer> camview :)
02:33 <PinkTomato> camview worked :)
02:34 <Lucifer> I'm considering finding a pirated windows to put in a vm and see what I can come up with
02:34 <Lucifer> hmmm, maybe camview has been added to the project and I didn't notice it? ;)
02:34 * Lucifer didn't read his commit emails yet
02:35 <Lucifer> oh hell, I"m not reading those commit emails, I'll look at the log instead
02:37 <Lucifer> heh
02:39 <nsh22> hey lucife
02:41 <Lucifer> hi nsh22 (hi there!)
02:41 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: does it sound wierd to you that the debug hasen't got a fault?
02:41 <nsh22> howdid the recruiter go today?
02:41 <Lucifer> debug build in windows?
02:41 <PinkTomato> the debug build is fine
02:41 <Lucifer> nsh22: didn't happen, I managed to sleep in until really late for no good reason
02:41 <PinkTomato> release is what fails
02:41 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: the debug build IN WINDOWS?
02:41 <nsh22> oh
02:41 <nsh22> that sucks
02:42 <PinkTomato> Sorry, duidn't make that clear, talking windows at the moment
02:42 <Lucifer> nsh22: yeah, I felt dumb waking up at 5pm
02:42 <nsh22> 5pm ? when u go to bed?
02:42 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: heh, I had to clarify it, I've seen too many people refer to an alpha package as a debug build ;)
02:42 <Lucifer> nsh22: 4am
02:42 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
02:42 <nsh22> thats.... 11 hours
02:43 <Lucifer> Umm, I don't know why there would be a difference, but the one you noted is a where input seems to happen way before you see it graphically?
02:43 <Lucifer> that sounds like you might need to fool with gl settings
02:43 <Lucifer> glFlush comes to mind, I don't remember where the option is
02:43 <nsh22> are you going to see him tomorrow?
02:44 <Lucifer> but see, it's an unstable release, so we might want to release it as a debug build anyway so we can get backtraces :)
02:44 <Lucifer> nsh22: don't know, I'm going to use my telephone tomorrow
02:44 <Lucifer> why are you so concerned with what I do for work? heh
02:44 <PinkTomato> It was 40MB big :), not excactly host friendly :)
02:44 <nsh22> ok. well, gl
02:44 * Lucifer also woke up to an email expressing interest in my resume
02:44 <nsh22> i dunno
02:45 <nsh22> i r very borred atm. i have two choice, do french homework or ramble on in irc and team speak
02:52 <Concord> neal, I can play now, or later, I only have 23 min remaining on battery, but I'll have more later
02:53 <nsh22> ok
02:53 <Concord> ok to what?
02:53 <nsh22> to playing
02:53 <Concord> now?
02:53 <nsh22> sure
02:53 <Concord> kk
02:54 <nsh22> where? spork?
02:55 <Concord> pink tomatos fortress
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03:15 <dlh> damn I hate sed
03:15 <ct|kyle> #bzr
03:15 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
03:17 <Lucifer> dlh: I reverted the version script and just pushed it
03:17 <Lucifer> it's only needed to generate reasonable version numbers for bzr builds, we don't need it to work right for 0.3.1, at least
03:17 <Lucifer> we don't need epsy's changes in 0.3.1, we need it to work like the older version :)
03:18 <dlh> Yeah, it was a bad time to make that change
03:18 <Lucifer> so whenever it doesn't work again (because somebody will probably merge the broken trunk version back to it)
03:18 <Lucifer> heh, not so much a bad time to make it, more like a change made badly
03:18 <Lucifer> epsy's fixed it like 3 times now, and it still doesn't work
03:20 <dlh> where did you push it to, 0.3.1?
03:20 <Lucifer> yeah, that's all I'm working with right now
03:20 <Lucifer> it's revision 766
03:24 <Lucifer> that script really needs to be rewritten in python, I think
03:24 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress
03:24 <Lucifer> the windows batch file still needs to be updated, and I'd just as soon move all of our build shell scripts to python scripts
03:25 <dlh> Lucifer: i was thinking the same thing
03:25 <Lucifer> so that we don't need separate bash/bat scripts
03:25 <dlh> too much to juggle all the differences between gnu/other toolchains too.
03:25 <Lucifer> yeah :)
03:26 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: what is the difference between file.THIS file.OTHER and file.BASE when bzr merge has errors
03:26 <ct|kyle> (hi there)
03:26 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: beats me
03:26 <Lucifer> one is the old file, one the file you have, and one is probably a copy of the file with the conflicts marked
03:27 <Lucifer> the current file will have the conflicts marked with >>>>>>>>>>>>> and <<<<<<<<<<<<<
03:28 <dlh> You should have a LEFT and RIGHT version. Use a gui tool to merge the changes. It is easier to visualize that way.
03:29 <Lucifer> mac users and their gui tools....
03:29 <ct|kyle> ya i'musing gui tool just don't know where to put changes are what should be the final code
03:29 <dlh> or you can use emacs
03:29 <dlh> :)
03:29 <ct|kyle> ya I read that
03:29 <dlh> but FileMerge.app is nice
03:29 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace || 42 of the Best Free Linux Games - LinuxLinks News
03:29 * Lucifer just wants the conflict syntax highlighted
03:30 <ct|kyle> it must be .BASE that you put the changes into
03:33 <Lucifer> ok, I'm going to rewrite the sortresources shell script to a python script and eliminate it
03:33 <Lucifer> then makedist.bat will become a python script too ;)
03:33 * Lucifer wants to build a windows release with wine
03:33 <ct|kyle> heh
03:34 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game || Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Mac || Armagetron Advanced || Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure
03:35 <dlh> er...
03:35 <Lucifer> what's broke now? ;)
03:36 <BabyBug> packages worked ok Lucifer =)
03:36 <Lucifer> BabyBug: cool, thanks :)
03:37 <Lucifer> so you're not getting the crash in the server browser that you get when you build from source?
03:37 <BabyBug> I can't build from source. configure checks to make sure you're NOT running the release candidate now
03:37 <Lucifer> I find the biggest problem in writing utility scripts is figuring out what to name them
03:38 <Lucifer> no, I mean, from when you were able to
03:38 <BabyBug> UtilScript1
03:38 <Lucifer> i.e. no code changes have been made to fix that bug, just that check in configure added to ensure nobody can build it
03:38 <BabyBug> ^^
03:39 <BabyBug> Oh right sorry i misread the question completely
03:39 <BabyBug> No it doesn't crash =)
03:39 <Lucifer> :) thank you
03:39 * dlh is building 0.3.1 alpha2 now
03:39 <BabyBug> and the characters are displayed correctly aswell
03:39 <Lucifer> that hopefully means that I've successfully linked ftgl statically, so we can worry about that bug some other time
03:40 <Lucifer> I think I'm going to call it copyresources.py
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03:49 <Flex> I'd like to build window releases, but I can't seem to figure it out.. or I would keep it updated.
03:50 <Lucifer> right now the windows build system is missing things
03:50 <Lucifer> as usual, heh
03:50 <Flex> it's been like that a while, i think
03:50 <Lucifer> more than likely, we lost our full-time windows developer some time ago
03:51 <dlh> I'm going to do a date-versioned 0.3.1 release right now. Some things have changed since the 0.3.1_alpha2 tag.
03:51 <Lucifer> ko
03:52 <Lucifer> I'll see if I can make enough changes to where I can build a windows release in wine, then maybe in another day or so we can alpha ffor all three platforms together :)
03:53 <Flex> if you explain how you did it exactly, i can copy and maybe help out.. i wanted to a while ago..
03:53 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8777 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha20090107.macosx-universal.dmg
03:53 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
03:53 <Flex> right now, there's no proper way to do it, you've just got to figure it out yourself, and when i tried, i failed
03:54 <Lucifer> there is a proper way to do it
03:54 <dlh> I'm glad I automated the release process for aabeta. It is a pain to do it manually.
03:54 <dlh> now if only sourceforge releases could be automated...
03:55 <Flex> it's out dated or something.. i think i had library or something along those lines.
03:55 <Flex> issue^
04:05 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r768 No tTrueVersion.h when using Xcode. || [0.3.1] r767 Add missing files... || [0.3.1] r766 Reverted to working version of version script
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04:46 <Concord> dlh did you build work
04:46 <dlh> yes, it is on aabeta
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04:49 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8778 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases_filter.php: Show universal build only if hiding old releases. Don't also show an older ppc build.
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04:51 <dlh> Concord: http://beta.armagetronad.net/?product=client&branch=0.3
04:51 <Concord> nice, I got my trunk build to work, don't know if you saw
04:51 <dlh> I did not. :)
04:51 <Concord> thanks for all the help :D
04:53 <dlh> NP. Sorry for all the difficulties. :S
04:54 <Lucifer> grrr, I think I opened a can of worms, heh
04:57 <dlh> with the resource sorting script?
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05:02 <Lucifer> yeah
05:02 <Lucifer> it's not the script itself that's a can of worms
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07:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: nemostultae * r8782 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: removed broken build
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08:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r649 Merging with 0.2.8.* r975
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08:40 <Lucifer> epsy: ping
08:40 <epsy> dlh: ping :°
08:41 <epsy> woop, time to run xmodmap
08:41 <Lucifer> xmodmap?
08:42 <epsy> yeah, you know numbers are obtained using shift on a french keyboard?
08:42 <dlh> pong
08:43 <epsy> is bzr out of your $PATH ?
08:43 <dlh> no. that wouldn't be very useful :)
08:43 <Lucifer> heh
08:44 <Lucifer> epsy: would you mind rewriting version as a python script instead?
08:44 <epsy> umm
08:44 <epsy> I pretty much know nothing about python
08:44 <Lucifer> see, there's also an update_version.bat that needs to be updated too
08:45 <epsy> where is it at?
08:45 <Lucifer> win32
08:46 <dlh> The problems with version are because of incompatibilities between different toolchains.
08:49 <Lucifer> #ping
08:49 <@armabot> pong
08:49 <Lucifer> we have a number of problems that are because of incompatibilities between different toolchains
08:50 <Lucifer> many (but not all) of which would be solved by eliminating most/all of the shell scripting in favor of some cross-platform script
08:50 <Lucifer> and since we're already using python in parts of our build system, that's the logical way to go
08:52 <dlh> What is the min version of python we require?
08:52 <dlh> 2.3?
08:52 <Lucifer> afaik
08:52 <dlh> it is pretty backwards-compatible though
08:53 <Lucifer> syntactically we're fine, just not sure of what modules we're using
08:53 <Lucifer> I'm avoiding anything that says "Added in 2.6" at least ;)
08:56 <epsy> so python & bzrlib ?
08:57 <Lucifer> that's a winner for me
08:57 <Lucifer> windows developers will need to install bzr with the python installer, but that's fine
09:24 * guru3 waves
09:41 <Lucifer> \o
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10:35 <@armabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Linux - Demo ... || Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace || 42 of the Best Free Linux Games - LinuxLinks News
10:40 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game || Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Mac || Armagetron Advanced || Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure
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10:54 <MrBougo> armablah?
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11:06 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress
11:11 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
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11:26 <@armabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Linux - Demo ... || Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace || Software Packages in Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex", Subsection Games ... || 42 of the Best Free Linux Games - LinuxLinks News
11:31 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game || Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Mac || Armagetron Advanced || Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
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13:13 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress
13:18 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
13:19 <Flex> @ping
13:19 <teabot> pong
13:20 <ivantis2> #ping
13:20 <@armabot> pong
13:23 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress
13:29 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r770 Added armabuild python module to collect python build stuff ... || [0.3.1] r769 Replaced sortresource shell script with python script
13:34 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
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14:38 <Lizmatic> http://twisted-rats.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=70
14:41 <MaZuffeR> Lizmatic, http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/tst-200901/
14:41 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress
14:42 <Lizmatic> Mazuffer, oh :/
14:42 <Lizmatic> Flex, idiot!
14:43 <Flex> lol
14:43 <Flex> cool, ok
14:47 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
14:52 <@armabot> armablah: Full Games: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Linux - Demo ... || Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace || Software Packages in Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex", Subsection Games ... || 42 of the Best Free Linux Games - LinuxLinks News
14:58 <@armabot> armablah: Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game || Armagetron v0.2.8.2.1 Free Full Game for Mac || Armagetron Advanced || Armagetron || Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
14:59 <PinkTomato> post was deleted?
15:00 <Lizmatic> yeah i asked about tst and brawl being on the same date ;p
15:04 <PinkTomato> oops :)
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15:39 <@armabot> armablah: Fortress vs. Sumo « Play Fortress || Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress
15:45 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
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16:22 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
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16:28 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
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16:38 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
16:48 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
17:10 <BabyBug> \o
17:11 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
17:12 * BabyBug wuddles ct|kyle
17:13 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
17:13 <PinkTomato> \o
17:13 <ct|kyle> armabot: why do you keep saying that
17:14 <ct|kyle> :P
17:14 <PinkTomato> and I can't click it
17:14 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: updated ct+sty with latest 0.2.8.*
17:14 <BabyBug> That bug's fixed now ct|kyle?
17:14 <PinkTomato> I saw :), thanks :D I'll grab it later :)
17:15 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no :/ just zone > wall interaction, all it slows down is ctwf :)
17:15 <BabyBug> ahhhhh
17:15 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I'll have to make sure epsy can login with this one
17:16 <PinkTomato> :)
17:17 * Lucifer cuddles ct|kyle
17:17 * BabyBug stabs Lucifer...cheater!
17:18 * ct|kyle points Lucifer to BabyBug to get cuddles
17:18 * Lucifer cuddles BabyBug's knife
17:18 <BabyBug> o.o
17:18 <PinkTomato> ouch
17:18 * Lucifer loves knives
17:18 <PinkTomato> I hate knives
17:18 <PinkTomato> evil things
17:19 <Lucifer> if it's got a blade and I can poke BabyBug with it, I love it
17:19 <BabyBug> knife fantasies are great \o/ :P
17:19 <Lucifer> how about sword fantasies?
17:19 * Lucifer looks around for his sword
17:19 <BabyBug> nah, that's just weird
17:19 <Lucifer> oh
17:20 <Lucifer> I have this weird fantasy involving my fencing foil and, er, I should probably just stop there
17:20 <BabyBug> no no, continue hun :P
17:25 <Lizmatic> I love knives too
17:25 <Lizmatic> knifeplay, lucifer? ;)
17:25 <Lucifer> wouldn't want to hurt the baby :)
17:26 <Lucifer> which also rules out stickplay, sadly
17:26 <Lucifer> I can launch a rocket at you, though
17:27 <Lucifer> I've decided I want to be just like Data
17:27 <Lucifer> the only problem is, I'm already human, so I can't go on a quest to become human
17:27 <Lucifer> and trying to become an android is just silly
17:27 <Lucifer> so I've decided to try to become a cartoon character
17:28 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
17:28 <Lizmatic> you're a weird kind of adult, luci
17:29 <BabyBug> only noticing that now Lizmatic? =P
17:29 <Lucifer> heh, yeah, she's a page behind
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17:48 <ct|kyle> epsy: Ping
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18:03 <PinkTomato> #weather eastbourne, uk
18:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
18:03 <PinkTomato> #weather brighton, uk
18:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 37.6°F (5:03 PM GMT on January 08, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028.3 hPa (Steady).
18:03 <PinkTomato> #finc 37.6
18:04 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 3.11111111111
18:04 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
18:04 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 17.2°F (11:59 AM EST on January 08, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising).
18:04 <ct|kyle> colder than i thought
18:04 <PinkTomato> well your much colder than me ;)
18:04 <PinkTomato> so I can't grumble
18:04 <ct|kyle> #finc 17.2
18:04 <@armabot> ct|kyle: -8.22222222222
18:05 <ct|kyle> -5?
18:05 <PinkTomato> -8, I don't even think I have had -8 weather ever
18:05 <ct|kyle> lol
18:05 <PinkTomato> That's in the day too!?
18:05 <PinkTomato> It's dark here
18:05 <ct|kyle> i think as a kid we had -20 F windchills
18:05 <PinkTomato> brrrr!
18:06 <PinkTomato> it is always the wind that makes it cold though
18:06 <ct|kyle> 10-15 years ago (dam i feel old)
18:06 <PinkTomato> the sudden change in temperature
18:06 <ct|kyle> ya
18:13 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
18:13 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 71.2°F (11:10 AM CST on January 08, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015.5 hPa (Falling).
18:14 <PinkTomato> In winter?
18:14 <PinkTomato> Texas is hot...
18:15 <Lucifer> our winter hasn't started yet
18:15 <Lucifer> I think it's currently scheduled for next week :)
18:16 <PinkTomato> But temperature's can't fall that much.
18:16 <Lucifer> ummm, yes they can
18:16 <Lucifer> within a few hours, we can go from 71.2 down to 40
18:17 <Lucifer> we usually have several freezing days, and we've already had a few this winter
18:17 <Lucifer> actually, what usually happens is the cold blows in early january and leaves in late february
18:17 <PinkTomato> really!? weather is extremely confusing
18:17 <Lucifer> so it's a little behind schedule right now
18:18 <Lucifer> our fall is a continuing oscillation from low 70s temperatures to mid-40s
18:18 <Lucifer> and the oscillation isn't day/night oscillation
18:18 <PinkTomato> what's summer like?
18:18 <Lucifer> pretty constant high 90s/low 100s
18:18 <Lucifer> humid, though
18:18 <PinkTomato> ah, I hate that humid hot
18:18 <Lucifer> we'll hit 95% relative humidity in late july and hold it until late september
18:19 <PinkTomato> everyone goes crazy when we reach 100 here
18:19 <Lucifer> we don't hit the highest temperatures in the world in absolute numbers, but in terms of joules/m^3, we're the hottest place on the planet
18:19 <Lucifer> even then, Austin isn't the worst, you have to go farther south :)
18:20 <PinkTomato> ouch :)
18:21 <Lucifer> humid subtropical :)
18:21 <ct|kyle> Lucifer still has not figured out how i survive in such a cold climate
18:21 <PinkTomato> me either ;)
18:21 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: it's not just cold, it's unsuited for human habitation!
18:23 <ct|kyle> works fine for me :)
18:24 <PinkTomato> There is such a big contrast from the north and south, and you still can go a long way more north-east than where kyle is.
18:24 <PinkTomato> (without reaching canada)
18:24 <ct|kyle> ya
18:24 <Lucifer> true, but the bitter cold winters are in the mid-west
18:24 <Lucifer> the closer you get to the oceans, you milder it gets
18:24 <Lucifer> you're in the UK, right?
18:24 <ct|kyle> they were 30 mph last night
18:24 <Lucifer> why does the UK have such a mild climate when it's so far up north?
18:25 <BabyBug> Lucifer, it doesn't....
18:25 <Lucifer> ?
18:25 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: ?
18:25 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ?
18:25 <Lucifer> I seem to recall it has a climate much like Seattle, which is also pretty far north
18:25 <BabyBug> The UK...It doesn't have a mild climate..
18:25 <PinkTomato> On a flat map its on level with canada
18:26 <BabyBug> It was -9 here 2 days ago....that is soooooooo not mild
18:26 <BabyBug> lol
18:26 <Lucifer> heh, what do you consider mild?
18:26 <Lucifer> -9 C?
18:26 <BabyBug> yes
18:26 <Lucifer> #cinf -9
18:26 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
18:26 <Lucifer> fuck off armabot
18:26 <ct|kyle> that is what it is here basicall
18:26 <BabyBug> #g -9c in F
18:26 <@armabot> BabyBug: (-9) degrees Celsius = 15.8 degrees Fahrenheit
18:26 <Lucifer> that's not too bad
18:26 <BabyBug> yes it is...
18:26 <Lucifer> now, does it stay like that all winter, or is it just a few days or a couple of weeks?
18:26 <PinkTomato> #weather Prince Albert, Canada
18:26 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan is -9.4°F (11:00 AM CST on January 08, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -14.8°F. Windchill: -22.0°F. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
18:26 <Lucifer> what are your summer highs like?
18:27 <PinkTomato> #cinf -9
18:27 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
18:27 <PinkTomato> #finc -9
18:27 <@armabot> PinkTomato: -22.7777777778
18:27 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: Thats Canada ;)
18:27 <BabyBug> Lucifer, just few days..lol...its' never really need that cold...we're not used it....So not used to it that the main water pipe coming from the resevoir to a water treatment works froze xD
18:27 <ct|kyle> I wanna go :)
18:27 <Lucifer> my understanding is the UK is cool and rainy most of the year
18:27 <BabyBug> Ya it is
18:27 <Lucifer> THAT'S A MILD CLIMATE!
18:28 <PinkTomato> I don't think it rains as much as we complain as it does though
18:28 <Lucifer> no extreme heat, no extreme cold....
18:28 <Lucifer> the reason your climate is so mild is because the ocean stores up heat through the summer and releases it in the winter
18:28 <Lucifer> and the gulf stream goes right around the island, that helps a lot too
18:28 <Lucifer> but the midwest and much of canada have no such help
18:29 <ct|kyle> mine can get from -5F to 90(or more)F
18:29 <BabyBug> I don't get any warm breezes :(
18:29 * BabyBug is right in the middle of a valley
18:29 <Lucifer> no, but you don't get the raging cold that comes down from canada, hits a few buffalo, and blows into Texas :)
18:29 <ct|kyle> we usually get about 2-3 weeks 90+
18:29 <Lucifer> (there are mountains on the northern texas border to keep out most of the cold winds)
18:30 <Lucifer> yeah, we get 90+ from early May all the way into November
18:30 <ct|kyle> I've even gotten used to working outside in that heat :)
18:30 <Lucifer> but we only have a few days of freezing temperatures, and snow is a once every few years event
18:30 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
18:30 <PinkTomato> Do you get warm rain where you are?
18:30 <Lucifer> snow that sticks is even rarer than snow that falls
18:30 <Lucifer> yeah, we get hot rain
18:30 <Lucifer> man, we get it where the sun heats up the street, then the rain falls, then the sun heats it up again
18:31 <Lucifer> so you can watch the water evaporate
18:31 <PinkTomato> sweet :)
18:31 <Lucifer> steam coming off the roads, it's really neat
18:31 <PinkTomato> Rain here is always cold,
18:31 <Lucifer> we have it rain and shine sun at the same time
18:31 <Lucifer> I really hate that
18:31 <PinkTomato> That's probably the temperature the UK should be if it didn't have a sea
18:31 <PinkTomato> That hardly happens
18:34 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: if your in a valley, surely you don't get any cold breeze's either?
18:34 <ct|kyle> we get hot rains every once in a while
18:35 <@armabot> armablah: Viewing Pleasure || Armagetron 0.2.6.0 and earlier and Armagetron A
18:35 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, it's just a cold breeze going round and round in circles :P
18:36 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
18:36 <Lucifer> BabyBug: warm it up a bit, then!
18:37 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i'm hot..but not that hot :P
18:37 <Lucifer> I was actually thinking you should expel hot gasses into the cold breeze
18:37 <epsy> Lucifer always loved doing that
18:38 <Lucifer> hey, how did you think Texas got so hot in the first place?
18:38 <Lucifer> all the geological evidence indicates it started to get really warm after Mexican food was invented
18:38 <ct|kyle> epsy: see if you can login on Crazy Tronners Fortress Server now
18:39 <epsy> @sd Crazy Tronners Fortress Server
18:39 <teabot> epsy: Crazy Tronners Fortress Server: Players (0/32):
18:39 <Lucifer> so, do you call an SSG "Staff Sergeant", or just "Sergeant"?
18:39 <epsy> @sd -v Crazy Tronners Fortress Server
18:39 <teabot> epsy: Crazy Tronners Fortress Server (78.46.226.237:4536) running 0.2.8_alpha20090108 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Crazy Tronners master fortress Server. Contact us on http://crazy-tronners.com/“, Players (0/32):
18:40 <ct|kyle> epsy: i merged ct+sty with 0.2.8.* last night
18:40 <epsy> works
18:40 <ct|kyle> ok :)
18:41 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: you should change your own version to note that it's ct+sty
18:41 <ct|kyle> ya what file is that?
18:41 <Lucifer> check the file minor_version for how
18:42 * epsy is out of sync already
18:43 <ct|kyle> so basically add in ct+sty at the start of line
18:51 <Lucifer> aw man, I'm too old for the coast guard :/
18:52 <PinkTomato> :(
18:52 <Lucifer> maybe they'll make an exception for an exceptional person? ;)
18:52 <Lucifer> (which may not necessarily be me, heh)
18:53 <PinkTomato> :)
18:53 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: I'm reading the map rotation script for Racing II
18:54 <PinkTomato> I've always wanted to ask the logic for ROUND_COMMENCING -98 ?
18:54 <ct|kyle> -98?
18:55 <PinkTomato> dosen't ring a bell?
18:55 <ct|kyle> nope
18:55 <PinkTomato> I think it was the first/second round was always reported as -98
18:56 <ct|kyle> maybe first
18:57 <ct|kyle> i should look
18:58 <PinkTomato> I'm just checking now, first round is ROUND_COMMENCING -98 12
18:59 <PinkTomato> Our version hasen't been updated for ages
19:00 <ct|kyle> heh, i know, I'll probably add that rubberzone hack into ct+sty sometime
19:01 <ct|kyle> hoop gave me all the information for it
19:01 <@armabot> armablah: Crazy Tronner’s Wild Fortress « Play Fortress || Tron for Peace
19:01 <ct|kyle> #help armablah
19:01 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (armablah [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armablah at the RSS feed <http://www.google.com/blogsearch_feeds?as_q=&hl=en&ctz=-60&c2coff=1&as_epq=&as_eq=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=a&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2000&as_maxd=23&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2008&lr=lang_en&safe=active&scoring=d&q=armagetron+OR+armagetronad&ie=utf-8&num=10&output=rss>. If <number of headlines> is given, (1 more message)
19:01 <PinkTomato> :),
19:01 <PinkTomato> #more ct|kyle
19:01 <@armabot> PinkTomato: returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
19:02 <epsy> @rss aanounce --remove armablah
19:02 <teabot> epsy: Error: 'aanounce' is not a valid url.
19:02 <ct|kyle> #list rss
19:02 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 0.3.1, add, announce, armaannounce, armablah, armacommits, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, rss, sty, and sty+ct
19:02 <epsy> @rss announce --remove armablah
19:02 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:02 <epsy> @help rss rss
19:02 <teabot> epsy: (rss rss <url> [<number of headlines>]) -- Gets the title components of the given RSS feed. If <number of headlines> is given, return only that many headlines.
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19:03 <epsy> err, stoopid me
19:03 <epsy> #rss announce --remove armablah
19:03 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:03 <epsy> #rss announce
19:03 <@armabot> epsy: armacommits, lpbugs, fts_feedback, and armaannounce
19:04 * ct|kyle agrees :)
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20:48 <i2020> breep
20:48 <ct|kyle> beep
20:51 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r650 changing minor_version to show sty+ct
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21:23 <nsh22> hey
21:23 <PinkTomato> hello nsh22 :)
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21:44 <K-Yo> guru3, do you own armagetronad.net ?
21:45 <guru3> yes
21:46 <K-Yo> guru3, do you think you could set up some subdomains such as ladle.aa.net who would point to the wiki ladle page ?
21:46 <K-Yo> it makes an easier link for advertising on servers
21:47 <guru3> hmm
21:47 <epsy> what about http://armagetronad.net/ladle/ ?
21:47 <epsy> this way it might be better once we move from wiki to whatever for managing the ladle
21:49 <guru3> maybe something like competitions.armagetronad.net
21:49 <epsy> fight.armagetronad.net
21:50 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:50 <K-Yo> personnaly, I don't care about the name
21:50 <guru3> you could register something like aatourneys.com
21:50 <madmax> yeah, no one memorizes those wiki links for tourneys heh
21:50 <epsy> @linkladle
21:51 <epsy> (if teabot wants to work)
21:51 <K-Yo> yeah
21:51 <epsy> headshot
21:51 <K-Yo> guru3, that's a good Idea
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21:51 <K-Yo> I could do it if no one else wants
21:51 <guru3> i mean, as long as anyone could use it, fight.armagetronad.net would be ok
21:51 <guru3> but i don't keep track of all the tournaments
21:52 <K-Yo> I think of building something bigger
21:52 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module
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21:52 <K-Yo> but not in the foreseeable future :P
21:52 <K-Yo> epsy, exactly!
21:52 <epsy> yeah
21:52 <epsy> exactly
21:52 <K-Yo> anyway, I don't have time in the foreseeable future :P
21:52 <epsy> but I still need to do carpets before
21:53 <K-Yo> epsy, do you know http://ops.warrock.net/ ?
21:53 <epsy> no
21:53 <K-Yo> take a look
21:53 <epsy> ugh
21:54 <K-Yo> I really like the system
21:54 <guru3> it looks like clanbase
21:54 <guru3> (sort of)
21:54 <K-Yo> yeah
21:54 <K-Yo> it has all the players and all the clans
21:54 <epsy> the site looks ugly heh
21:54 <K-Yo> dates of fights
21:54 <K-Yo> results
21:54 <K-Yo> etc etc
21:54 <guru3> clanbase... that takes me back
21:54 <epsy> it's pretty much what I had in mind
21:54 <K-Yo> same :)
21:54 <epsy> just..uhm, with a cleaner website, heh
21:55 <PinkTomato> the site is ugly, I can't even fidn the register link in 15 seconds
21:55 <K-Yo> sure xD
21:55 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, topright :P
21:55 <K-Yo> ah no
21:55 <PinkTomato> I can see login box ;)
21:55 <K-Yo> yeah it sucks
21:55 <epsy> PinkTomato, IMO, if you're not logged in, the only thing you should see is 1/ a description of the service, a login prompt, and a mere preview of what's going on
21:56 <PinkTomato> top right is where it should be :).
21:56 <PinkTomato> epsy: and a register link?
21:56 <epsy> by login prompt I -of course- mean a register link
21:56 <PinkTomato> Oh yeah :D
21:56 <PinkTomato> its just this website only has a login box
21:56 <epsy> well, a hint on where to get an AAGID
21:57 <epsy> think of vimeo.com when you're logged out
21:57 <PinkTomato> now thats a nice looking website
21:58 <epsy> see, that's a better impression than the impression you got when seeing the site K-Yo mentionned
21:58 <epsy> So, you have a register form on top of the page, a login link, what's going on and what vimeo is
21:58 <PinkTomato> although K-Yo site has the functionality of what we want
21:58 <PinkTomato> so merge them, done :)
21:59 <epsy> merge into what?
21:59 <PinkTomato> take the style/layout of vimeo, and stick it into that clan system website
21:59 <epsy> haha
21:59 <PinkTomato> and it would be pretty clean, neat, and useable
22:00 <epsy> and find a lawsuit and merge it as well
22:00 <K-Yo> hmmmm
22:00 <K-Yo> so, what domain should we register?
22:00 <PinkTomato> Would we even need MCM whatever?
22:00 <PinkTomato> It's achieveable currently
22:00 <guru3> armagetronsayseatbabies.com
22:00 <BabyBug> O.o
22:01 <Lucifer> guru3: I've already registered that one
22:01 <epsy> If you mean the stuff definined here <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module>, I'd say an official one would be welcome :)
22:01 <PinkTomato> how would it work epsy?
22:01 <epsy> answering that question is pretty much the job of the document I linked
22:01 <PinkTomato> Oh I see!
22:02 <PinkTomato> I was thinking more setting the team names etc
22:02 <PinkTomato> this is linking a group of servers together with some cool functionality
22:02 <Lucifer> what we need is a fairly simple package for coordinating a single tournament
22:03 <Lucifer> then, anybody who wants to run a tournament can use it
22:03 <Lucifer> it should export some sort of xml data that we can collect onto the main site, or a special site for the purpose
22:03 <epsy> Lucifer, I'd start with individual matches
22:03 <PinkTomato> So if I get this right, your playing in server 3, and when durka and sagelord win in server 1, it will be reported to you?
22:03 <epsy> it could
22:03 <Lucifer> epsy: sure, if it could do individual matches, then a human could use it to manage a tournament
22:03 <epsy> :)
22:04 <Lucifer> well, that level of integration with arma will take some time, and it won't be until Bacchus makes it out the door that it can be widely adopted (needs the scripting)
22:04 <epsy> totally
22:05 <Lucifer> but if we were to focus in the unix tradition on just doing one thing and doing it well, I'd say epsy's right, just coordinate single matches
22:05 <Lucifer> allow teams and players, and support armathentication (so people won't have to register if they're already registered somewhere else in armaland)
22:06 <Lucifer> once that functionality is there, making it support tournaments shouldn't be too tricky
22:06 <K-Yo> and maybe after a time could be automatically integrated to server?
22:06 <K-Yo> with an optino to activate the report or not
22:06 <Lucifer> however, writing a single web app to support all tournaments and be a central location to do it would be a big pain in the ass
22:07 <Lucifer> sure, give it a good rpc interface and we might be able to find ways to integrate with existing servers
22:07 <epsy> K-Yo, enable/disable a module/script/kangoroo
22:07 <Lucifer> but ultimately, we'd want some pretty strong integration that can only be achieved when scripting is standard
22:07 <K-Yo> Lucifer, I can do that, but in one? two? years
22:07 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah :)
22:07 <Lucifer> hey, look, if you guys can just get the easy stuff done (i.e. the grunt work), I can work up the rpc stuff
22:08 <K-Yo> .g grunt
22:08 <K-Yo> .g rpc
22:08 <Lucifer> hell, I don't want to make any more promises I can't keep, but if I find myself with a job, this is one of the things on my todo list
22:08 <Lucifer> rpc = remote procedure call (or something like that)
22:08 <Lucifer> basically a way for the server to report on the match :)
22:08 <K-Yo> okay
22:09 <PinkTomato> that would be easy to do insecurly, possibly?
22:09 <Lucifer> could do it securely too
22:09 <K-Yo> even better ><
22:09 <Lucifer> ssl is at a lower layer than the web app itself
22:09 <epsy> lol
22:09 <K-Yo> smthing like each server has an account with a private key?
22:09 <Lucifer> K-Yo: pretty much, yeah
22:09 <epsy> *cough* armathentication *cough*
22:10 <PinkTomato> so the server's log in to :D
22:10 <Lucifer> epsy: can servers authenticate?
22:10 <epsy> not yet?
22:10 <K-Yo> :P
22:10 <K-Yo> serventication!
22:10 <ct|kyle> lol
22:10 <PinkTomato> :D
22:10 <Lucifer> well, for a web-based protocol, we wouldn't want to do the same back-and-forth that goes on with armathentication
22:11 <Lucifer> maybe later, when there's real scripting
22:11 <K-Yo> #ls -g café@wrtlpwnd
22:11 <PinkTomato> :D
22:11 <Lucifer> I'm just thinking of a basic xml-rpc or soap thing, or even simpler, but basically xml in the raw post data
22:11 <Lucifer> embed user and password in there, server rejects the whole thing if it doesn't have a user and pass for it
22:11 <ct|kyle> CSS for maps should be first :P
22:12 <Lucifer> heh
22:12 <Lucifer> I'm not intending to work on any extra project until I have at least finished the resource work on my plate, and that's after 0.3.1, and presumably after I get a job, too
22:12 <epsy> CSS for scoreboardz too! pff!
22:12 <PinkTomato> xD
22:12 <Lucifer> I've got some good leads, though
22:12 <PinkTomato> :)
22:13 * epsy really wonders what to use for scoreboards
22:13 <K-Yo> #find a word for Lucifer
22:13 <Lucifer> http://austin.craigslist.org/web/982750259.html <--- this one has my name all over it
22:15 <Lucifer> epsy: cockpit widget
22:15 <Lucifer> epsy: while you're at it, would you convert the console to a cockpit widget, too? ;)
22:15 <epsy> oh yeah, we have that as cockpits already
22:15 <epsy> neat
22:15 <epsy> Lucifer, that's part of my eEvent roadmap :<
22:16 <Lucifer> isn't there a patch floating around for that?
22:16 <epsy> along with extending it with filters etc etc
22:16 <epsy> so you can get chat on one console etc
22:17 <epsy> K-Yo, grrrr..this is not minor :<
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22:25 <Lucifer> ok, I give up, I thought someone threw together a patch that made a cockpit widget for the chat stuff
22:25 <Lucifer> but I'm not finding it now
22:27 <K-Yo> epsy, it is not? ^o) just added one line
22:27 <K-Yo> well I never know how to comment this wiki stuff...
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22:34 <K-Yo> epsy, isn't providing an example "minor" ?
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22:35 <PinkTomato> So changing a small spelling mistake, or fixing a grammar point, is that minor edit? What if it was a whole paragraph?
22:35 <BabyBug> \o
22:35 <PinkTomato> \o BabyBug :)
22:36 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: what did i spell wrong
22:37 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: you have spelt nothing wrong :), just wondering when I should tick that minor edit button on a wiki
22:39 <ct|kyle> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Spork Slowly coming along
22:40 <PinkTomato> "The First Spork is planned for Sunday 8th March 2009" Awwww...... XD
22:40 * PinkTomato will be patient :)
22:40 <ct|kyle> :)
22:40 <ct|kyle> probably should have set round's
22:41 <ct|kyle> really should have it the 15th, in case we have another ladle the 1st
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22:42 <PinkTomato> :), Reminds me I should get map rotation working and then the biggest hurdle is done
22:45 <ct|kyle> ya
22:45 <K-Yo> I know!
22:45 <ct|kyle> should be easy to do
22:45 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: ?
22:45 <K-Yo> epsy, Lucifer guru3 : what do you think of tronic.net ?
22:45 <ct|kyle> .org
22:45 <PinkTomato> haven't we got to move away from the name tron?
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22:46 <PinkTomato> didn't debian moan at us?
22:46 <K-Yo> yeah org
22:46 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, oh, mamybe
22:46 <PinkTomato> isn't it more of a network?
22:46 <guru3> K-Yo: is it taken?
22:46 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: one of them did
22:47 <K-Yo> guru3, let me check
22:47 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: I was assuming debian due to iseweasel
22:47 <PinkTomato> :)
22:47 <ct|kyle> PFedora
22:47 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato*: Fedora
22:47 <K-Yo> all taken
22:47 <PinkTomato> ah
22:47 <K-Yo> :(
22:47 <PinkTomato> what?
22:47 <PinkTomato> what are people using tronic.net for?
22:48 <K-Yo> to list directories
22:48 <K-Yo> xD
22:48 <ivantis2> guru3: would you consider unbanning *245. whatever? thats me at home
22:48 <K-Yo> #fetch tronic.net
22:48 <@armabot> K-Yo: Error: 'tronic.net' is not a valid url.
22:48 <PinkTomato> tronic.org is a holding page.. it's silly
22:48 <K-Yo> #fetch http://www.tronic.net
22:48 <@armabot> K-Yo: HTTP Error 403: Access Forbidden
22:48 <K-Yo> hmmm
22:49 <ct|kyle> arma-comp.org
22:49 <guru3> cyclecompetitions.net
22:50 <ct|kyle> arma-tourny.org
22:50 <guru3> tourney?
22:50 <PinkTomato> cyclecompetitions.net << how is this avaliable?
22:50 <PinkTomato> I don't understand, my money would be on that rather than tronic.net
22:50 <guru3> i don't know, didn't check
22:50 <guru3> just thought it was an interesting name
22:51 <ivantis2> guru3: ?
22:51 <PinkTomato> Oh I did check, I was surprised it was not taken.
22:52 <guru3> *!*@*.245.159.78
22:52 <ct|kyle> i think .org would be beter
22:52 <ivantis2> yes that one is me
22:52 <guru3> are you going to continue running ircbots from that ip?
22:52 <guru3> (in this channel)
22:52 <ivantis2> no
22:52 <guru3> ok then
22:52 <ivantis2> i stopped that before the ban anyway
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22:53 <ivantis2> thanx
22:54 <ivantis2> i had a good idea for a server while looking at the tour de france map in my communications class today: tour de france
22:55 <ivantis2> its like the real race
22:55 <K-Yo> yes, .org is the shit
22:55 <ivantis2> the map is like a big map of france
22:55 <ct|kyle> #g 750C in F
22:55 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 750 degrees Celsius = 1382 degrees Fahrenheit
22:55 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: already done: http://www.tomscott.com/realworldracer/
22:56 <ivantis2> no in arma
22:57 <PinkTomato> hmm
22:57 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: what is 750 Centigrade!?
22:57 <PinkTomato> that's severely hot
22:58 <ivantis2> maps are different, each checkpoint is another match
22:58 <ivantis2> er, round
22:58 <ivantis2> another good idea: speed zones. when touched, increase your speed
22:59 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: someone experimented with speed zones, they couldn't find a way for it to work without causing odd stuff to happen
22:59 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: Not sure :P just wondered what it was
23:00 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: would require client support, I believe zonesv2 was going to support this
23:00 <ivantis2> really? and rubber zones and such did work?
23:01 <PinkTomato> they did, the cycles started to hop around
23:01 <ivantis2> what odd stuff happens?
23:01 <ivantis2> weird
23:01 <PinkTomato> from someone not looking at the code, I think the client draws the cycles at the speed predicting acceleration
23:02 <PinkTomato> yet the server applies the actual increase in position, and sends this to the client
23:02 <PinkTomato> which results in the player jumping.
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23:02 <ivantis2> most likely. did anyone try it using a local game on a client?
23:02 <PinkTomato> Um.. not sure
23:02 <ivantis2> hai TaZ
23:03 <PinkTomato> #g -1K in C
23:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (-1) kelvin = -274.15 degrees Celsius
23:03 <TaZ> hey ivantis2
23:03 <PinkTomato> #g -100K in C
23:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (-100) kelvin = -373.15 degrees Celsius
23:03 <ivantis2> #g 100K in C
23:03 <@armabot> ivantis2: 100 kelvin = -173.15 degrees Celsius
23:04 <PinkTomato> 0Kelvin is the lowest temperature that kelvin can go
23:04 <TaZ> does anyone have CT_voodoo's MSN?
23:04 <K-Yo> armatronic.org
23:04 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: a catalytic converter
23:04 <K-Yo> TaZ, hmmm he uses yahoo
23:05 <TaZ> Do you have his email?
23:05 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I wanted to verify it before saying
23:05 <K-Yo> yea
23:05 <TaZ> could you pm it to me?
23:05 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: ah I see :D, that's still very hot :)
23:06 <K-Yo> TaZ, after my sumo :)
23:06 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: ya
23:06 <ct|kyle> hotter than i thought engine exhaust would be
23:07 <PinkTomato> that's supposed to be engine exhaust!?
23:07 * PinkTomato will not touch exhausts
23:08 <ivantis2> did you know that i could be signed into AIM and such all day and actually be there? i have an aim client for my phone
23:08 <ivantis2> tmobile G1 running Android
23:08 <TaZ> you have a g1?
23:09 <TaZ> you must have 3G too
23:09 <ivantis2> yeah. i am using it right now
23:09 <TaZ> nice
23:09 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: apparently they can get that hot
23:09 <TaZ> using an IRC client?
23:09 <PinkTomato> Unfortunatly at 4£ a MB that becomes unfeasible for me.
23:09 <TaZ> lol
23:09 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: wow .. :)
23:10 <ivantis2> TaZ: yeah androidirc
23:10 <TaZ> ah
23:11 <PinkTomato> For Spork, would there be any reason why we might have a different map_file but the same settings? or should I only link the database to a configuration file?
23:11 <ivantis2> there is already a tron clone in 2d for android
23:11 <epsy> K-Yo, http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201750#201750
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23:11 <ivantis2> #g 4£ in USD
23:11 <@armabot> ivantis2: 4 UK£ = 6.0688 U.S. dollars
23:11 <TaZ> is the G1 still the only phone with android?
23:12 <ivantis2> the australian android phone and the G1
23:12 <TaZ> ok
23:12 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: for what you are doing i would use configuration
23:12 * TaZ wants to go to CES
23:13 <ct|kyle> file
23:13 <ivantis2> i love it. early christmas present from parents
23:13 <TaZ> nice
23:13 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: right OK :)
23:13 <PinkTomato> no point making data redundant
23:14 <ct|kyle> for Ct's it works a lot better having each setting for each map
23:14 <TaZ> what made you get the G1, ivantis? :P
23:14 <K-Yo> epsy, I saw that ;)
23:14 <ivantis2> TaZ: uh, someone here talking about it. saw it and needed it
23:15 <ivantis2> my parents really like how i like computer programming, and i told them it was open source and i could write apps for it
23:15 <TaZ> lol
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23:24 <PinkTomato> #cfg FORTRESS_
23:24 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
23:25 <PinkTomato> @cfg FORTRESS_
23:25 <epsy> lol
23:25 <PinkTomato> is armabot out of date?
23:25 <PinkTomato> or am I doing it wrong?
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23:26 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 FORTRESS_
23:26 <PinkTomato> .cfg FORTRESS_
23:26 <tronner> ct|kyle: FORTRESS_COLLAPSE_SPEED: fortress_collapse_speed_help || FORTRESS_CONQUERED_KILL_MIN: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_CONQUERED_KILL_RATIO: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_CONQUERED_SCORE: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_CONQUERED_WIN: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE: Rate a fortress zone "recovers" from being conquered || FORTRESS_CONQUEST_RATE: Rate a fortress zone gets conquered with for each enemy (1 more message)
23:26 <tronner> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
23:26 <epsy> yup, outdated
23:26 <ct|kyle> I just updated it this morning
23:26 <PinkTomato> .more ct|kyle
23:26 <tronner> PinkTomato: in it || FORTRESS_CONQUEST_TIMEOUT: fortress_conquest_timeout_help || FORTRESS_DEFEND_RATE: Rate a fortress zone "recovers" for each defending player || FORTRESS_HELD_SCORE: Score you get for holding your fortress. || FORTRESS_MAX_PER_TEAM: UNDOCUMENTED || FORTRESS_SURVIVE_WIN: UNDOCUMENTED
23:26 <epsy> .cfg2 mode
23:26 <tronner> epsy: ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE: Last screen resolution || ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE_H: UNDOCUMENTED || ARMAGETRON_LAST_SCREENMODE_W: UNDOCUMENTED || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE: Screen resolution || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE_H: UNDOCUMENTED || ARMAGETRON_SCREENMODE_W: UNDOCUMENTED || BALL_TEAM_MODE: ball_team_mode_help || SWAP_MODE: Determines the commands used to sync graphics and input. 0: do nothing, 1: (2 more messages)
23:26 <PinkTomato> it was this one: FORTRESS_MAX_PER_TEAM, ty kyle :)
23:26 <ct|kyle> i still want to know how to get the default values in it
23:27 <epsy> .cfg2 m_el
23:27 <tronner> epsy: TEAM_ELIMINATION_MODE: Defines the way ArmagetronAd should eliminate teams when there's more teams than TEAMS_MAX: Set to 0 it will try to keep as many players as possible, kicking teams that have the lowest score if teams are balanced; Set to 1 it will try to keep the best team colors (Team blue, then Team gold, then Team red, etc); Set to 2 it will kick out the teams that have the lowest score, regardless of (1 more message)
23:27 <epsy> .more
23:27 <tronner> epsy: balance.
23:27 <epsy> ..lol
23:27 <PinkTomato> lol, it would have been easier to print balance
23:27 <ct|kyle> .help cfg2
23:27 <epsy> yeah
23:27 <tronner> ct|kyle: (cfg2 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
23:27 <ct|kyle> #alias add cfg2 rss http://crazy-tronners.com/armaconfig.php?config=$1
23:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
23:27 <ct|kyle> there
23:28 <PinkTomato> hehe, thanks, should come in handy :)
23:28 <ct|kyle> ya
23:28 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 INV
23:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME: Time in seconds a cycle is invulnerable after a respawn. || CYCLE_INVULNERABLE_TIME_OVERRIDE: UNDOCUMENTED || LADDERLOG_WRITE_INVALID_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_invalid_command_help
23:28 <ct|kyle> bye bye tronner
23:28 <ct|kyle> .part
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23:29 <ct|kyle> i should make a .cfg3 for 0.3.*
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00:22 <smoothice> PinkTomato: players 0/0?
00:22 <smoothice> PinkTomato: nevermind
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00:53 <PinkTomato> #sd -v S P O R K
00:53 <@armabot> PinkTomato: S P O R K (67.222.143.161:4541) running 0.2.8_alpha20090108 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Admin Contact: PinkTomato, Settings by Durka. TST staff here now have administrative access.“, Players (2/16): Pink Tomatoes (Pink\_Tomatoes@forums), Player 1
00:58 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: heh
00:59 <PinkTomato> :)
01:08 <ct|kyle> #si -v S P O R K
01:08 <@armabot> ct|kyle: S P O R K (67.222.143.161:4541) running 0.2.8_alpha20090108 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Admin Contact: PinkTomato, Settings by Durka. TST staff here now have administrative access.“, Players (5/16): >><<, ct¤ky13, Pink Tomatoes (Pink\_Tomatoes@forums), Player 1
01:12 <smoothice> PinkTomato: 5 arma servers on your VPS now?
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01:14 <PinkTomato> 6
01:14 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Oh. I was one off
01:14 <PinkTomato> I run on the assumption that they are never full
01:14 <smoothice> PinkTomato: :P
01:14 <PinkTomato> if they were all full it would be chaos
01:16 <smoothice> PinkTomato: no kidding
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01:29 <nsh22> hey
01:30 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato:
01:30 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 console_m
01:30 <@armabot> ct|kyle: CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. || ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Message sent to clients after every round
01:30 <PinkTomato> ah sorry :), said something :)
01:31 <PinkTomato> ?
01:31 <ct|kyle> use CONSOLE_MESSAGE instead of SAY
01:31 <ct|kyle> :P
01:31 <PinkTomato> Ah the load_map debug stuff :), will do :)
01:31 <PinkTomato> at the time, say was faster to type :D
01:31 <ct|kyle> you could even put in High Rubber or Fortress
01:31 <PinkTomato> instead of round_message?
01:31 <ct|kyle> ctrl+v :P
01:32 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
01:32 <ct|kyle> on CTWF we use CONSOLE_message on round commencing and then Round_Center_message
01:33 <ct|kyle> round_message we use for other stuff Like pointing out ladle 18 or some other stuff
01:33 <PinkTomato> Oh and you have that quick description
01:33 <PinkTomato> might add that too
01:34 <ct|kyle> want the code?
01:34 <ct|kyle> :P
01:35 <PinkTomato> hehe, small little cheatsheet will come in handy :D
01:35 <PinkTomato> only if its no trouble :)
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01:38 <PinkTomato> Concord: hiya :)
01:38 <Concord> =} ello
01:39 <PinkTomato> Spork is rotating
01:39 <PinkTomato> :D
01:39 <Concord> flex, you're right, but at current host we can't do much about it, we may change host, tho
01:39 <Concord> xD
01:39 <Flex> it's in the stylesheet
01:39 <Concord> we can't edit that at current host
01:39 <Flex> or most probably css
01:39 <nsh22> hey
01:39 <Concord> hi
01:39 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I'll put a few more things in it
01:39 <PinkTomato> OK :)
01:40 <nsh22> brb making food
02:01 <Concord> pinktomato, whats our status?
02:01 <Concord> lol that sounded funny
02:01 <PinkTomato> ah sorry
02:01 <PinkTomato> :D
02:01 <PinkTomato> Concord: We have rotation
02:02 <PinkTomato> the configuration is off
02:02 <Concord> anything i can help with?
02:02 <PinkTomato> the configuration files conflict
02:02 <PinkTomato> It's more just a clean up job
02:02 <Concord> maybe add a everytime.cfg that resets it to standard settings?
02:03 <Concord> ok
02:03 <PinkTomato> Yeap, done that, so All that needs to do is fix a MAP_FILE problem, and put in the fort physics to the sumo and fort files, and find a CTF setting file
02:03 <Corn> the spork is gonna be huge you can quote me on that
02:03 <PinkTomato> Current CTF physics are little off
02:04 <PinkTomato> #quote
02:04 <PinkTomato> :D
02:04 <PinkTomato> I think we should do a test run once its sorted
02:04 <PinkTomato> maybe advertise it on lagtest, maybe part as that organised matches thing
02:05 <ct|kyle> I wonder if the spork will draw more than just 16 teams
02:05 <PinkTomato> 16 teams is the goal?
02:05 <Corn> wait are we talking about the server spork or some tournament i was making fun of by calling it the spork
02:06 <PinkTomato> hehe, I think both shold be called spork
02:06 <PinkTomato> game type as well
02:06 <ct|kyle> they will be :P
02:06 <Corn> i think the sumo tournament in the server should be called the spork
02:06 <PinkTomato> just the sumo ?
02:06 <Corn> well fortress too if you want that
02:07 <ct|kyle> Concord: / Corn http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Spork
02:07 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
02:07 <PinkTomato> 16 servers
02:07 <Concord> do we need the Spork/Blurb :D
02:07 <PinkTomato> do we have 16 teams capable of running servers?
02:07 <Concord> oh yeah, lol, nvm
02:08 <Corn> is that a joke or foreal
02:08 <Concord> foreal i think
02:08 <Corn> with a name like spork i cant take it seriously lmfao
02:08 <PinkTomato> lol :D
02:08 <Concord> 2020's latest post was good, if you missed it
02:08 <Corn> i read it
02:08 <PinkTomato> @google play fortress
02:08 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://www.blitzgamer.com/play_games/strategy/206/fortress-game.html - Play Fortress Game Now - Fortress Game Flash Game @ BLITZ GAMER!
02:08 <PinkTomato> @google "play fortress" armagetronad
02:09 <Corn> im about to publish a new article on play fortress i just need to reinstall photoshop so i can make a diagram example picture w/e
02:09 <ct|kyle> #alias add llog rss http://crazy-tronners.com/ladderlogconfig.php?config=$1
02:09 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
02:09 <ct|kyle> #llog NUM_H
02:09 <@armabot> ct|kyle: NUM_HUMANS: [number_of_players]
02:09 <PinkTomato> useful :D
02:10 <nsh22> back
02:10 <Concord> wb
02:10 <nsh22> ty
02:10 <nsh22> tomato soup and scheese is sooo good :)
02:10 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: that is why i forked the .cfg command for that
02:10 <PinkTomato> ah :)
02:11 <Corn> Well no one take my idea of the spatula... im not sure what kind of tournament its gonna be...
02:11 <Corn> but its gonna be awesome
02:11 <PinkTomato> lol :D
02:11 <nsh22> can i make the knife turny ? lol
02:11 <PinkTomato> do you not have trust the spork?
02:11 <Corn> that sounds like it would turn out bad
02:11 <nsh22> what, the knife?
02:12 <Corn> well you see sporks dont always work well sometimes if your eating soup the tongs get in the way
02:12 <Corn> unless its noodle soup in which case whats better than a spork
02:12 <PinkTomato> chopsticks
02:13 <PinkTomato> so Concord what's a spork?
02:13 <PinkTomato> let's get a #define because I'm confused :)
02:13 <Corn> a spork is the mutation of a fork and a spoon to create the ultimate eating utinsel
02:14 <Concord> the spork is both a variety server and a tournament, both used to introduce tronic to non-fortress players
02:14 <PinkTomato> ah the hidden agenda
02:14 <PinkTomato> ;)
02:15 <Corn> its like how religions get people to convert.. they try something people are familiar then BAM
02:15 <PinkTomato> :D
02:15 <PinkTomato> HR fort is rubbish
02:15 <PinkTomato> I tried it
02:15 <PinkTomato> no good
02:15 <Corn> defense would be WAY too easy
02:16 <Corn> basically you just camo
02:16 <Corn> camp
02:16 <PinkTomato> everything is TOO easy
02:16 <Corn> well if everything is easy then it evens out
02:16 <PinkTomato> it was an accident, MAP_FILE didn't work ;)
02:16 <Corn> :P
02:16 <ct|kyle> Concord: feel free to edit anything
02:16 <PinkTomato> Concord: what HR map do you want ;)?
02:16 <ct|kyle> use my circle one
02:17 <Concord> yeah do
02:17 <PinkTomato> It is set up to use {DD} HR atm, but suggestions are welcome
02:17 <PinkTomato> the circle one?
02:17 <Concord> I like circles, gets me thinking fort zone
02:17 <Corn> subliminal messages
02:17 <ct|kyle> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/kyle/tournament/tourney-0.0.3.aamap.xml
02:18 <ct|kyle> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/kyle/rubber/id_dome-0.0.1.aamap.xml << i like that one too
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02:19 <Concord> hi madmax
02:19 <Corn> hey max
02:19 <madmax> hi
02:19 <ct|kyle> oi
02:20 <PinkTomato> pretty similar :), OK we will use this one :)
02:20 <PinkTomato> the none branded one with different spawn_point
02:21 <ct|kyle> I'd use branded with out the brand
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02:22 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
02:22 <Concord> hi sinewav
02:22 <PinkTomato> that's basically what I would do :F
02:22 <PinkTomato> :D
02:22 <sinewav> hi
02:22 <sinewav> `I'm trying yet another lame IRC client :(
02:22 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i think i commented the beading stuff
02:22 <ct|kyle> what one now?
02:22 <sinewav> Hydra
02:23 <PinkTomato> which ones have you tried and hated?
02:23 <sinewav> I liked X-chat, but it expired
02:23 <PinkTomato> expired? supposed to be open-source I thought
02:23 <sinewav> Pidgen doens't work on XP well
02:23 <sinewav> no the windows dist I guess
02:23 <sinewav> not*
02:24 <Flex> use mIRC
02:24 <PinkTomato> Yeah, UTF8 program runs under none-unicode settings I think
02:24 <ct|kyle> sinewav: torrent x-chat
02:24 <Flex> mIRC is probably the best IRC client for Windows
02:24 <ct|kyle> sinewav: could always just switch to linux :)
02:24 <PinkTomato> just for IRC :D
02:25 <sinewav> I'll get on that linux deal when I have time and motivation
02:25 <sinewav> `mIRD isn't free either
02:25 <sinewav> free is key
02:25 <PinkTomato> why the hell isn't there a good IRC client for windows?
02:26 <sinewav> pfft who the hell knows
02:26 <PinkTomato> Pidgin works for me though, so I can't help you there
02:26 <ct|kyle> because #windows is full of idiots
02:27 <sinewav> man, this Hydra IRC looks like shit.
02:27 <Flex> mIRC is free..
02:27 <sinewav> where?
02:27 <sinewav> link plz
02:27 <Flex> just because it askes for donation, doesn't make it any different
02:28 <PinkTomato> sorry, but dosen't mIRC look a little out of date too?
02:28 <PinkTomato> Or am I thinking of something else?
02:28 <Flex> i don't believe so, it gets updated quite often
02:28 <sinewav> "Thank you for trying out mIRC. mIRC can be downloaded freely and evaluated for up to 30 days. If after evaluating mIRC you find that you like it and wish to continue using it, you will need to register your copy."
02:29 <Flex> I've been using mIRC for 100+days
02:29 <Flex> I'm here talking aren't I?
02:29 <sinewav> How did you gewt past the registration? or is it a nag screen?
02:29 <Flex> press continue
02:30 <Flex> wait 5 seconds or so.. then press continue.
02:30 <madmax> try irssi \o/
02:30 <sinewav> ah, I guess I can live with that.
02:30 <Flex> no.. not irssi!
02:30 <PinkTomato> http://cdn.mirc.com/images/installchannel.gif
02:30 <PinkTomato> is that what mIRC looks like?
02:30 <Flex> no..
02:30 <Flex> but kind of
02:30 <PinkTomato> see, out of date looking ;)
02:30 <sinewav> haha, I'd be cool with that
02:31 <PinkTomato> I think I would go crazy without my coloured names ^.^
02:31 <sinewav> ok bbl with new client
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02:31 <PinkTomato> ok :)
02:32 <Flex> only thing i dislike about mIRC is i can't see who's away in gray, the same as in x-chat
02:32 <Flex> everyone's just black, on the userlist
02:32 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: what colour is my name
02:32 <Flex> maybe it's my config, but i can't seem to 'fix' that
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02:33 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: light blue :)
02:33 <ct|kyle> like wrtl's
02:33 <PinkTomato> yeap like wrtl's
02:34 <Flex> http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/8826/mirc001up7.jpg
02:34 <PinkTomato> that's not too bad :)
02:34 <Flex> Linux, can take a walk!
02:35 <ct|kyle> I still like colored names
02:36 <PinkTomato> http://dessert.ath.cx/irc.png
02:36 <Flex> my colour :(
02:36 <PinkTomato> you don't like it?
02:36 <Flex> na, not really
02:37 <PinkTomato> ah well, you can't see it so :D
02:37 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: your purple/pinkish armabot but lighter
02:37 <PinkTomato> hehe, so it sort of got it right :D
02:38 * ct|kyle wonders what it goes by
02:38 * PinkTomato too
02:39 <ct|kyle> its's eitehr nick or ip
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02:40 <HelloWorld> heh
02:41 <ct|kyle> that did not change my colour did it?
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02:41 <PinkTomato> no, but helloworld is a turquoise blue.
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02:42 <ct|kyle> so it may be by both nick and IP
02:42 <Concord> #fortress
02:43 * Concord meant to say
02:43 <Concord> #forest
02:43 <@armabot> 4st
02:43 <Concord> #nerd
02:43 <@armabot> 9rd
02:43 <Concord> #tooth
02:43 <@armabot> 2th
02:43 <PinkTomato> what does that have to do with anything?
02:43 <Concord> nothing
02:43 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
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02:44 <PinkTomato> hello me!
02:44 <PinkTomato2> heh
02:44 <PinkTomato> oo its a pinky colour
02:44 <ct|kyle> differnt than yours
02:44 <ct|kyle> yours is more purple
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02:50 <Concord> is the server online, btw? I'm too lazy to go look
02:51 <PinkTomato> #sport
02:51 <PinkTomato> #spork
02:52 <PinkTomato> Nope then :)
02:52 <Concord> ok ;} ty
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02:57 <Concord> wb
02:57 <PinkTomato> long time! xD
02:57 <sinewav> ew at new IRC client
02:57 <sinewav> ...
02:57 <PinkTomato> what client might that be?
02:57 <sinewav> mIRC
02:58 <PinkTomato> ah
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03:05 <TaZ> mibbit ftw!
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03:08 <PinkTomato> TaZ: don't you find the web based client annyoying?
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03:52 <Concord> nsh22 a bunch of us are in ct ladle 2 if you are around
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11:54 <i2020> breep
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11:59 <Flex> bethere...
11:59 <Flex> yeahh
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12:08 <pikey> #list
12:08 <@armabot> pikey: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
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12:33 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
12:33 <Lucifer> #ping
12:33 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
12:33 <@armabot> pong
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12:44 <hang3r> Seriously, someone "up there" loves me, I just had a 6 pack, drove to mackas and had something to eat because I had the munchies... So I decide to drive to the bottle shop to get another 6-pack... And anyway, I'm driving home and at then intersection there are these cops just stopped there, I found that strange because it was a green light for them, but they just sat there starring at me, so i'm driving home, everyone is
12:44 <hang3r> flashing there lights at me. So I get half way home and realise I dont have my lights on (its 11.00pm here so obviously night)
12:44 <hang3r> s/there/their/g and etc
12:45 <hang3r> drink driving ftw?
12:46 * hang3r now realises that that may have been a seriously dumb idea, considing if I lost my license I would have lost my job
12:59 <Flex> haha
13:14 <MaZuffeR> #m sinewav you can get free xchat for windows from http://www.silverex.org/ or http://www.zerostress.org/dls/
13:14 <@armabot> MaZuffeR: The operation succeeded.
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14:06 <PinkTomato> #ls jop
14:07 <@armabot> PinkTomato: timed out
14:12 <Flex> case sensitive?
14:12 <PinkTomato> alias ls
14:13 <Flex> #ls Jop
14:13 <@armabot> Flex: timed out
14:13 <PinkTomato> it's an alias to a page wrtl's page
14:14 <PinkTomato> if you use the link, it goes back further
14:24 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
14:25 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
14:25 <BabyBug> advertising! #kick!
14:25 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: server trouble?
14:25 <Lucifer> yeah, lan trouble
14:25 <Lucifer> my router seems to ahve stopped taking connections and isn't itself plugged in
14:25 <PinkTomato> It work's here, but very slow
14:26 <Lucifer> er, hmmm, I wonder if it's nto plugged in, I only checked one side of the connection
14:27 <PinkTomato> If it's not plugged in wouldn't I get nothing?
14:34 <epsy> checked wifi? heh
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15:26 <madmax> #seen monkey_arma
15:26 <@armabot> madmax: monkey_arma was last seen in #armagetron 3 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 13 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <Monkey_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201247&sid=2238c3c03ac7588806df29e9e527ed40#201247
15:33 <PinkTomato> damn
15:34 <PinkTomato> it's been a long time without monkey
15:34 <PinkTomato> #seen monkey_silent
15:34 <@armabot> PinkTomato: monkey_silent was last seen in #armagetron 3 weeks, 0 days, 15 hours, 56 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: * Monkey_silent ...
15:36 <epsy> http://www.interplay.com/
15:36 <epsy> They finally gave sign of live :)
15:37 <PinkTomato> Earthworm Jim is coming back?
15:37 <epsy> maybe
15:37 <PinkTomato> oo
15:37 <epsy> but they are working on an MMORPG for now, I heard
15:38 <epsy> note the very new drawing for descent :))
15:45 <pikey> hope they'll make fallout mmorpg someday
15:45 <pikey> then i'll ahve to abandon arma for a year :D
15:45 <pikey> or more
15:46 <epsy> talking about descent I might as well play a little of it :)
15:47 <pikey> didnt play the game for years :)
15:48 <epsy> still have it?
15:48 * epsy would like to have some noob matches
15:49 <pikey> got 2nd one somewhere
15:49 <pikey> on floppies :P
15:49 <epsy> can't get d2x-xl to work here :(
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16:09 <PinkTomato> #seen sagelord
16:09 <@armabot> PinkTomato: sagelord was last seen in #armagetron 2 days, 13 hours, 48 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <SageLord> how do you change colors? Oo
16:12 <ct|kyle> #llog chat
16:12 <@armabot> ct|kyle: CHAT: [player] [message]
16:32 <epsy> #help llog
16:32 <@armabot> epsy: (llog <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/ladderlogconfig.php?config=$1".
16:32 <epsy> oh
16:32 <epsy> nice
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16:50 <Lucifer> can I get someone to send me an email?
16:52 <BabyBug> Lucifer, email address?
16:52 <Lucifer> dave at davefancella dot com
16:53 <BabyBug> message sent
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16:55 <Lucifer> thanks, I got it
16:56 <Lucifer> hmmm, I had an email bounce that said my domain couldn't be resolved :(
16:58 <Lizmatic> nice excuse to get some attention luci :P
16:58 <Lucifer> heh
16:58 <BabyBug> he just wanted my email so we could cyber =x
17:00 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, that's cheating
17:00 <BabyBug> I'm not cheating!
17:00 <BabyBug> I even said in the email i'm not allowed to say i love yooh xD
17:00 <Lizmatic> we agreed that cybering with others would be cheating!
17:00 <BabyBug> i never said i was going to do it! ><
17:03 <Lizmatic> just checking on you =D
17:03 * Lizmatic growls
17:04 * BabyBug would never betray yooh <33
17:04 <ct|kyle> lier
17:04 * Lizmatic knows ^^ <3 same.
17:04 <BabyBug> newp
17:04 <BabyBug> you're wrong ct|kyle :P
17:05 * ct|kyle slaps BabyBug around with Lizmatic
17:06 * Lucifer doesn't cyber anyway
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17:07 <G5> .ping
17:08 <BabyBug> That's now what you were saying 2 weeks ago Lucifer ;)
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17:10 <Lizmatic> ct|kyle is jealous!
17:12 <ct|kyle> :'(
17:18 <BabyBug> They're jealous cause i have someone as great as you Lizmatic <3
17:21 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
17:21 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 20.7°F (11:21 AM EST on January 09, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Rising). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 2 PM this afternoon to 5 PM EST Saturday...
17:22 <ct|kyle> ~3CM of snow so far
17:22 <ct|kyle> i did not know Light snow could be near whiteout conditions
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18:28 <Lucifer> well, I might have to ride my bike today
18:28 <Lucifer> it's a beautiful day, and I haven't been riding in far too long
18:28 <ct|kyle> another CM of snow
18:30 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
18:30 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 73.0°F (11:30 AM CST on January 09, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 62.6°F. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Falling).
18:39 <Lizmatic> your bike? you mean supercool motorcycle or pink girly bycicle? :D
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18:48 <Lizmatic> appa!
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19:32 <Lucifer> many mountain bicycle
19:32 <Lucifer> er
19:32 <Lucifer> manly mountain bicycle
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19:35 <arrow> .si cafe
19:35 <arrow> #si cafe
19:35 <@armabot> arrow: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): CTxGonZaP, ct|Puuquie, CT~Voodoo (voodoo@forums), cT¤K-Yo, Pez, voxx1, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x/member)
20:04 <PinkTomato> #tea
20:04 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Fortress Café: Players (18/32): 2020, CTT_speed, CTxGonZaP, ct|Puuquie, CT~Voodoo (voodoo@forums), epsy¦×¦, gArIsImO, ikono, juice keeper, man2d, Nii, pike, Pink Tomatoes (Pink\_Tomatoes@forums), voxx1, Z783, ¦<, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x/member)
20:06 <apparition> anyone ready for a super nooby question/
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20:06 <PinkTomato> I am if you want a nooby answer :)
20:07 <ct|kyle> apparition: n00b away :P
20:07 <apparition> :D do i have to sign up for an msn hotmail email address if i want to talk on MSN?
20:08 <PinkTomato> nope :)
20:08 <PinkTomato> passport.net
20:08 <apparition> i know that's retarded and stuff, but EVERYONE asks me what my MSN is. it seems to be more universal than AIM.
20:08 <PinkTomato> what's an AIM?
20:09 <PinkTomato> :P, I only have one person on my aim list
20:09 <ct|kyle> MSN sucks
20:09 <apparition> i know
20:09 <akira_arma> jabber?
20:09 <ct|kyle> they blocked my account
20:09 <apparition> i'm using a new chat client now though, so i don't have to deal with hotmail crap
20:09 <PinkTomato> why ct|kyle?
20:09 <akira_arma> jabber > msn/aim
20:09 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I donno, it just won't connect
20:10 <ct|kyle> i think because i used it to diss NASCAR :P
20:10 <PinkTomato> Lol
20:10 <apparition> nascar... barf
20:10 <PinkTomato> It sounds odd O_o, no idea why they would do such a thing
20:11 <PinkTomato> Anyway, I use pidgin, so it dosen't matter what the protocol is, all looks the same to me
20:11 <apparition> how do i use passport
20:11 <PinkTomato> register it with your email address
20:11 <PinkTomato> passport.net is one of the stupid sites that force you to have www. so don't forget that
20:12 <apparition> i made that mistake first, but worked it out
20:12 <apparition> lol
20:13 <PinkTomato> I thought AIM was the worse of the two
20:16 <apparition> idk, i like aim. been using it for 10 years.
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20:33 <Lucifer> jabber > all
20:34 <apparition> all i need is a freaking login
20:34 <apparition> for msn
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20:34 <PinkTomato> has passport.net got you answering too many questions?
20:34 <BabyBug> Boo! I see yooh
20:34 <PinkTomato> waaa!
20:35 <apparition> no, it's just that my email was linked to an xbox live account
20:35 <apparition> so it was effing with me
20:38 <PinkTomato> typical
20:48 <apparition> okay, is anyone using msn?
20:49 <epsy> somewhat
20:49 <apparition> right now though
20:49 <epsy> connected, but no more
20:49 <apparition> can you try sending a message to my new account to test?
20:49 <epsy> no, except if you hand me your account's ID :)
20:50 <apparition> crime.wav@live.com
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20:50 <BabyBug> Why were you using passport.net if you had a live.com account :s
20:51 <epsy> isnt it the same thing?
20:51 <apparition> i just signed up for a live.com account because passport wasn't working for me
20:51 <BabyBug> oh i see
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20:55 <SageLord> yo, whats up
20:55 <Lucifer> #ping
20:55 <@armabot> pong
20:56 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
20:56 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
20:59 <madmax> you can associate mail with the passport thingy
20:59 <madmax> *emails
21:00 <PinkTomato> hi SageLord :)
21:00 <PinkTomato> fort brawl is next week?
21:16 <apparition> i'll try
21:24 <apparition> fart brawl is sunday the 18
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21:32 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
21:32 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: timed out
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
21:32 <Lucifer_arma> grrrr
21:33 <Lucifer_arma> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
21:33 <@armabot> Lucifer_arma: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
21:33 <PinkTomato> it's armbot being silly
21:33 <akira_arma> @tea
21:33 <epsy> I really don't get why I can't connect to my apache on IPv6
21:33 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
21:33 <epsy> if I restart apache one time, it works fine
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22:08 <arrow> #si cafe
22:08 <@armabot> arrow: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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22:40 <TaZ> epsy
22:42 <Hoax> yes TaZ
22:42 <Hoax> how goes it
22:43 <ct|kyle> he Hoax
22:43 <ct|kyle> hey*
22:43 <PinkTomato> hey ct|kyle :)
22:43 <Hoax> kyle
22:43 <ct|kyle> oi PinkTomato
22:43 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
22:43 <madmax> dlh: that oldglancing branch gets merges from trunk?
22:43 <Hoax> pff PinkTomato jumping in on my hi
22:43 <dlh> madmax: yeah
22:43 <ct|kyle> heh
22:43 <PinkTomato> lol, hi hoax, TaZ too :)
22:44 <madmax> k, thanks
22:44 <akira_arma> @tea
22:44 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (3/32): Zwing, ~*PsYkOSiS*~, °DoCtOr°
22:44 <Hoax> psh you all ruined it now
22:44 <PinkTomato> I know, sorry :D
22:44 <Hoax> might aswell just go cafe
22:44 <Hoax> ill mess with TaZ later
22:45 <PinkTomato> #seen Concord
22:45 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Concord was last seen in #armagetron 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <Concord> nsh22 a bunch of us are in ct ladle 2 if you are around
22:45 <PinkTomato> so, 6 hours to go
22:45 <epsy> TaZ, don't [implicitely] ask to ask, just ask
22:46 <ct|kyle> lol PinkTomato, less than that
22:46 <PinkTomato> oh yeah, that was last message, I want first :D
22:46 <ct|kyle> couple hours
22:48 <PinkTomato> ok, wait till concord and the rest of US gets out of work, and I'll try spork'ing
22:49 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac9eb51.bb.sky.com] has quit ["Leaving."]
22:49 <ct|kyle> #si S P O R K
22:49 <@armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “s p o r k” at the moment, sorry.
22:50 <epsy> TaZ, haha, I see
22:53 <TaZ> hey everyone
22:53 <TaZ> epsy
22:53 <epsy> stop just putting my nickname on a single line like this
22:53 <TaZ> what's going on with the TST confirmations?
22:53 <epsy> [22:45] <epsy>: TaZ, don't [implicitely] ask to ask, just ask
22:54 <TaZ> I was busy, geez
22:54 <epsy> TaZ, well, you somehow signed up two times and you each confirmed for a different subscription
22:54 <TaZ> haa
22:54 <TaZ> Can you just manually set it up?
22:54 <epsy> I'll send you an email with the right link
22:54 <TaZ> ok
22:56 <epsy> sent
22:58 <TaZ> ok
22:58 <TaZ> are we in an American server?
22:59 <epsy> US server at 20:00
23:00 <TaZ> kk cool
23:02 * fonkay is sick of winter already.
23:03 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc238035.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:07 <Lucifer> did pink tomato just drive-by spork us?
23:18 <ct|kyle> #si S P O R K
23:18 <@armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “s p o r k” at the moment, sorry.
23:18 <ct|kyle> he did not even put the server up for us
23:22 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872AEE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
23:23 <Flex> ct|kyle, can you lock the thread and delete the nonsense.. you're basically mocking me
23:23 <Flex> the problem has been resolved
23:23 <ct|kyle> Post that
23:23 <Flex> i'm not going to post replies to cycle pictures
23:23 <ct|kyle> and then I'll lock it just in case
23:24 <Flex> is that fair?
23:24 <Flex> they're good stuff, for sure.. but maybe move them to a more relevent thread
23:25 <ct|kyle> Flex: LOL, I'm just sick of hearing it all, we had a private thread on it, then the armagetronad one and then the one you posted. that is why i put the cycles up
23:26 <Flex> i know, i understand
23:27 <Flex> got some great art there.. it should have it's own thread and be carried on ;)
23:27 <Lizmatic> the art in there sucks
23:27 <Lizmatic> you all suck
23:27 * Lizmatic sucks
23:27 <ct|kyle> lol :D YThe purpose was to stop the chatter in that thread
23:28 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: only BabyBug
23:28 * BabyBug cuddles Lizmatic..You don't suck dear!!
23:28 <Flex> only BabyBug sucks things..
23:28 <BabyBug> and...?
23:29 <Lizmatic> BabyBug you're straight? :s I hate you.
23:29 <Flex> joking home girl
23:29 * Lizmatic cries
23:29 <BabyBug> nuuu ='(
23:29 <BabyBug> how many times do i have to say i wont cheat on you woman xD
23:30 <Flex> Lizmatic doesn't mind.. so are you up for having fun BabyBug?
23:34 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac9eb51.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
23:35 * Flex puts on wizard hat
23:35 * Flex grabs wand
23:35 * Flex looks at Lizmatic
23:36 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: came back from SPORKING us
23:36 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
23:36 <PinkTomato> #spork
23:38 <PinkTomato> #si S P O R K
23:38 <@armabot> PinkTomato: S P O R K: Players (1/1): snowcone
23:38 <PinkTomato> whoops
23:38 <ct|kyle> http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png
23:38 * Lizmatic feels awkward
23:39 <PinkTomato> #llog LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND
23:39 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
23:39 * BabyBug makes Lizmatic feel more awkward ;)
23:39 <TaZ> Windows 7 will suck
23:39 <TaZ> Just like Vista
23:39 <ct|kyle> windows 7 does Suck
23:39 <TaZ> You already got the beta?
23:39 <ct|kyle> Not quite as much as vista
23:39 <PinkTomato> I don't like the big taskbar
23:39 <ct|kyle> ya torrent
23:39 <TaZ> cool
23:39 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@94.172-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
23:40 <PinkTomato> didn't Microsoft release it legally?
23:40 <TaZ> I thought about downloading, but didn't want to offend my mac.
23:40 <ct|kyle> you can shrink the taskbar (i did)
23:40 <ct|kyle> today
23:40 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"]
23:40 <ct|kyle> i had it weeks ago
23:40 <PinkTomato> ah right
23:40 <PinkTomato> I probably need something stupid like 40GB to try it
23:40 <TaZ> lol
23:40 <ct|kyle> 10-12
23:40 <PinkTomato> excactly ;)
23:41 <TaZ> that's still a lot
23:41 <ct|kyle> c:\windows was 7.4 GB
23:41 <ct|kyle> i forgot to look right after in installed it
23:41 <TaZ> what did they add to make it 2.6-4.6 GB's bigger
23:41 <PinkTomato> #llog round
23:41 <@armabot> PinkTomato: NEW_ROUND: [date] [time] || NEXT_ROUND: [round] [total_rounds] [map_file] [round_center_message] || ROUND_WINNER: [team]
23:41 <ct|kyle> c:\ was 10 GB with firefox and tron
23:42 <ct|kyle> fierfox and pidgin actually
23:42 <TaZ> anyone tried snow leopard?
23:42 <epsy> as fur?
23:42 <TaZ> lolz
23:42 <TaZ> the OS
23:42 <PinkTomato> what's that?
23:42 <PinkTomato> sounds like a mac
23:42 <TaZ> .g snow leopard
23:43 <PinkTomato> Macintosh is too closed
23:43 <TaZ> ok well that failed
23:43 <epsy> @g snow leopard
23:43 <teabot> epsy: http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/ - Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Snow Leopard
23:43 <epsy> PinkTomato, *apple
23:43 <PinkTomato> Ah correct :)
23:43 <TaZ> :)
23:43 <epsy> [23:42] <TaZ>: anyone tried snow leopard?
23:44 <epsy> « ... Snow Leopard — scheduled to ship in about a year — builds on Leopard’s enormous innovations ... »
23:44 <PinkTomato> looks the same as mac os ten
23:44 <TaZ> The beta has been seeded already epsy
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23:44 <epsy> PinkTomato, same here
23:44 <epsy> TaZ, then that's not snow leopard
23:45 <PinkTomato> #sd -v s p o r k
23:45 <TaZ> yes it is
23:45 <@armabot> PinkTomato: S P O R K (67.222.143.161:4541) running 0.2.8_alpha20090108 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “Admin Contact: PinkTomato, Settings by Durka. TST staff here now have administrative access.“, Players (1/16): snowcone
23:45 <epsy> it's like you take some random snapshot of arma and say it's 0.2.8.3
23:45 <TaZ> oO
23:45 <TaZ> not exactly
23:46 <PinkTomato> a bear in lion's clothing
23:46 <TaZ> @google snow leopard seeded
23:46 <teabot> TaZ: http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/10/snow-leopard-seeded-to-wwdc-developers/ - OS X 10.6 'Snow Leopard' Seeded to WWDC Developers - Mac Rumors
23:46 <TaZ> seeded a long time ago
23:46 <epsy> TaZ, still, it's not ready one year before the release
23:46 <epsy> what did you think??
23:46 <TaZ> it's a beta, of course
23:47 <TaZ> it's not ready to be released
23:47 <PinkTomato> google has a new favicon! :D
23:47 <epsy> so it's not snow leopard
23:47 <epsy> again?
23:47 <epsy> eek
23:47 <TaZ> oO
23:47 <TaZ> epsy, you ok?
23:47 <epsy> horrible
23:47 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: its had that for months
23:48 <epsy> ct|kyle, check again
23:48 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: It's not the grey one
23:48 <ct|kyle> ah
23:48 <epsy> is google going through a site redesign anytime?
23:48 * PinkTomato hopes not
23:49 <ct|kyle> i had to open opera to see it
23:49 <epsy> well, google's design sucks
23:49 <PinkTomato> well, they have not really done any big redesign lately
23:49 <TaZ> epsy..snow leopard is OSX 10.6, it's been released, but as an early release
23:49 <PinkTomato> TaZ: any screenshots?
23:49 <epsy> considering the criterias I mentionned yesterday
23:49 <epsy> TaZ, 10.6earlyrelease, but not 10.6
23:50 <TaZ> It's still snow leopard
23:50 <epsy> eh, still not
23:50 <TaZ> i'm not saying it's complete epsy
23:50 <TaZ> it's an early release
23:51 <TaZ> still has some work to be done
23:51 <epsy> it's like saying 0.3.1 is 0.4.0
23:51 <TaZ> no, it's not
23:51 <epsy> what is the difference?
23:51 <TaZ> it's like saying the upgrades to 10.5 are not leopard.
23:51 <TaZ> 10.54 is still leopard
23:52 <TaZ> 10.55 is still leopard
23:52 <epsy> it is leopard, since 10.5 was tagged leopard
23:52 <TaZ> 10.6 is tagged snow leopard
23:52 <TaZ> are you getting it?
23:52 <epsy> and it isn't released
23:52 <PinkTomato> 10.6 is, the final 2.6
23:52 <PinkTomato> :)
23:52 <TaZ> it was released
23:52 <TaZ> to developers
23:52 <epsy> you mean the final 0.3.1 ?
23:53 <TaZ> an early build of snow leopard
23:53 <PinkTomato> excactly!, still WiP
23:53 <PinkTomato> I can't sell that as snow leopard can I?
23:53 <TaZ> haha no
23:53 <epsy> that's a developer preview
23:54 <epsy> just as 0.3.*
23:54 <TaZ> but it's still snow leopard
23:54 <TaZ> just not the final version
23:54 <PinkTomato> Hmmm
23:54 <TaZ> just like windows 7
23:54 <PinkTomato> I'm a bit worried
23:54 <PinkTomato> I think it'll be delayed
23:54 <PinkTomato> they aim to release it within the year, and all they can show me is one page?
23:54 <TaZ> i don't think enough features were added
23:55 <PinkTomato> oh, and have a screenshot of excactly what I have already seen
23:55 <PinkTomato> and notes about what macintosh should have had in the last release (64-bit) etc
23:55 <TaZ> yea
23:55 <epsy> TaZ, it's like saying 0.3.1 is 0.4.0, again
23:56 <epsy> 0.3.* are developer(well, only artists for now) preview
23:56 <TaZ> epsy, i'm done arguing. its plain to see that we both have different opinions.
23:56 <epsy> that thing you mentionned is a developer preview
23:56 <epsy> you're saying it IS what they will release in one year
23:57 <TaZ> I said earlier it was an early build of "snow leopard"
23:57 <epsy> don't get me wrong, you just said snow leopard
23:57 <epsy> lol
23:59 <TaZ> ok I guess I should have said" has anyone tried snow leopard early build"
23:59 <TaZ> :)
23:59 <epsy> developer preview is what it's called
23:59 <PinkTomato> there isn't even a screenshot on the internet
23:59 <epsy> that gives a really better idea of what it is, tbh
23:59 <PinkTomato> so I doubt anyone has :)
Log from 2009-01-10:
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00:00 <TaZ> haha
00:00 <TaZ> i will remember to be more specific with you epsy
00:00 <epsy> it's not being more specific, it's not the saem thing
00:00 <PinkTomato> Oh, and knowing Apple, they probably wouldn't let you tell anyone that you have it anyway.
00:01 <epsy> talking about NDAs still didn't hear about a linux GL :(
00:01 <epsy> QL *
00:01 <TaZ> yea, don't they have a NDA?
00:02 <TaZ> epsy
00:02 <TaZ> the palm pre
00:02 <TaZ> what do you think?
00:02 <epsy> the what
00:02 <epsy> @g palm pre
00:02 <teabot> epsy: http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/index.html - Palm.com : Shop : Pre
00:02 <PinkTomato> @g apple newton
00:02 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton - Newton (platform) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:03 <TaZ> lol @ the newton
00:03 <epsy> half invisible phone!
00:03 <TaZ> haha
00:03 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
00:04 <TaZ> i saw a preview of the browser..it was better than the iPhones
00:04 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/TaZ1.png
00:05 <TaZ> heh
00:05 <epsy> errr..windows mobile?
00:05 <TaZ> yes...:/
00:05 <TaZ> it also has wireless charging
00:05 <epsy> I wonder how many people use that
00:05 <TaZ> alot of poeple you winmo
00:06 <epsy> charging for using wifi .. at home?
00:06 <TaZ> wireless charging base
00:06 <TaZ> no wires needed
00:06 <epsy> ah
00:06 <TaZ> uses something with magnets
00:06 <epsy> and a dynamo?
00:07 <epsy> I didn't see anyone use windows mobile yet
00:07 <TaZ> idk, i haven't read into it
00:07 <TaZ> it's like those electric toothbrush stations
00:08 <TaZ> what do they use in Paris, symbian?
00:08 <epsy> since pretty much every phone out there uses symbian, under different flavors, yes
00:08 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r651 adding /team and /msg to chatlog when configured
00:10 <TaZ> no
00:10 <TaZ> you have winmo, BREW, android, palm's os
00:10 <TaZ> many more
00:10 <epsy> 90% is symbian-based
00:11 <epsy> (90% of sold units)
00:11 <TaZ> proof?
00:11 <epsy> read: most
00:11 <PinkTomato> isn't symbian only Nokia?
00:11 <TaZ> no
00:11 <epsy> proof? all mobile phone manufactures invest in symbian
00:11 <epsy> *almost all
00:12 <TaZ> but I don't believe that most phones are of the symbian os
00:12 <epsy> _that_ is why android isn't pushing in
00:12 <epsy> they are
00:12 <TaZ> Yes, some phone companies do, but not all
00:12 <TaZ> and some invest very little
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00:14 <epsy> except a very few phones in their arsenals, all of most phone manufacters will be symbian-based
00:14 <TaZ> Symbian is the main OS for Nokia phones and sometimes SE
00:14 <epsy> (and sometimes really lack decent work on it)
00:14 <epsy> yes
00:14 <epsy> Nokia is gonna buy it all
00:14 <TaZ> oh yea, i heard
00:15 <PinkTomato> I just remembered where I first shown armagetronad
00:15 <PinkTomato> work experience week :D
00:15 <epsy> you can put the word work in quotes already :D
00:15 <PinkTomato> lol :D
00:16 <TaZ> epsy, barely most of the mobile phone market use symbian
00:16 <epsy> most, except the very latest phones
00:16 <TaZ> no
00:17 <TaZ> early PDA's maybe
00:17 <epsy> probably because they don't bother to maintain their own flavor anymore, and s60 is too expensive or whatever
00:17 <TaZ> yea, I was just saying that most phones these days don't have symbian
00:18 <TaZ> nor back in the day
00:18 <TaZ> well maybe when Nokia ruled the market :P
00:18 <epsy> if you take all the phones that have been advertised last months, there are no symbians except s60's
00:18 <TaZ> yea
00:18 <TaZ> no wait
00:18 <TaZ> s40 too
00:18 <TaZ> I saw some
00:19 <epsy> it was not very advertised, I guess :)
00:19 <PinkTomato> Mobiles phone and text, they all do the same thing and never change much, yet people always strive to upgrade and get the new contract. So it may come with a new gimmicky feature, have you ever received a video call? People only use Mobiles for those primary functions, Call and Text.
00:19 <TaZ> in fact, i saw what looked like a N series phone, with s40
00:19 <TaZ> i was like..wtf?
00:19 <epsy> PinkTomato, camera
00:19 <epsy> TaZ, lol
00:20 <PinkTomato> epsy: Ah I forgot that one, yeah camera's are popular on phones, they are getting close to a proper one.
00:20 <epsy> PinkTomato, packing up the music player, camera and phone is something I want :) at least for the music player
00:20 <TaZ> n95 used to have one of the best mobile cameras
00:20 <epsy> it now doesn't have anymore? :)
00:21 <TaZ> nah, i think some one has beaten them to it
00:21 <TaZ> i'll have to find the link..it may have been another nokia actually..
00:21 <epsy> well, if you're just sticking to who's got the most megapenisses
00:21 <epsy> there was a 6MP one
00:21 <TaZ> nah, im talking quality wise
00:21 <epsy> dont know who from
00:21 <PinkTomato> it's the lens that counts anyway
00:22 <TaZ> epsy, http://www.engadgetmobile.com/ my favorite site
00:22 <TaZ> i love the carl zeiss lens that nokia uses
00:22 <epsy> IBM does phones?
00:22 <TaZ> oO
00:22 <PinkTomato> TaZ: iPhone?
00:22 <TaZ> they do?
00:23 <TaZ> iPhone's camera sucks haha
00:23 <epsy> http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/01/09/lenovos-android-powered-ophone-to-hit-china-mobile-this-quarter/
00:23 <PinkTomato> Oh I know! :D
00:23 <TaZ> I have one though
00:23 <epsy> PinkTomato, reviews say that it sucks to use
00:23 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: how about a new CTF map if there are more 8 players
00:23 <epsy> mainly because of the touchscreen interface
00:23 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: why what goes wrong with CTF over 8?
00:23 <epsy> it's like, you have a preview and you have to hide the preview to take a shot
00:23 <ct|kyle> too many people
00:24 <TaZ> i guess so epsy lol
00:24 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: is it? hmm...
00:24 <TaZ> i love iphone's UI
00:24 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: What would need to be different?
00:25 <TaZ> it was such a hard choice to choose between the n95 and the iphone
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00:25 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: what is the current MAP_FILE
00:25 <PinkTomato> That was easy for my friend, Nokia gave them one free for beta
00:25 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: just an idea i have
00:25 <TaZ> :o lucckyy
00:25 <TaZ> i still want a n96
00:26 <PinkTomato> TaZ: it broke Really quickly though,
00:26 <TaZ> was it the slider?
00:26 <ct|kyle> oi Concord
00:26 <PinkTomato> I think so
00:26 <TaZ> i heard a lot of bad things about it
00:26 <TaZ> ah
00:26 <Concord> hey, ky
00:27 <epsy> heh, sliders always break
00:27 <TaZ> i wish they would update the e90 :/
00:27 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: sorry for the wait: it is: MAP_FILE Your_mom/clever/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml(http://www.geocities.com/armagetron_maps/ctfsty-0.0.2.aamap.xml)
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00:27 <Guest96252> ??
00:28 <epsy> you were using a registered + protected nick, apparently
00:28 <PinkTomato> Guest96252: don't look at us, you are the one that renamed yourself
00:28 <Guest96252> "NickServ taz_!i=aabdalla@hyperion.dreamhost.com has released your nickname."
00:28 <Guest96252> I didnt
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00:29 <PinkTomato> Concord: spork is working now without conflicting configurations :)
00:29 <Concord> =D w00t!
00:29 <TaZ_> htc makes the ugliest phones epsy
00:30 <Concord> wd!
00:30 <TaZ_> except for the touch HD
00:30 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: can you pastebin the serverside one?
00:30 <epsy> lol
00:30 <epsy> why are you talking about htc now?
00:30 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Could I use $_SESSION['players']= <<NUM_OF_PLAYERS>>
00:30 <TaZ_> i was looking at some of their announced phones at CES
00:30 <PinkTomato> I've not worked out how to solve the statelessness in scripts
00:32 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it already looks like you're wanting to use session variables for it
00:32 * epsy wants QL for linux :((
00:33 <Lucifer> QL?
00:33 <epsy> quakelive
00:33 <epsy> basically, q3a, free of charge, from any browser
00:33 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: ignore the PLAYER_ENTERED bit, that was a little fun I was having :). http://pastebin.com/d2d48afbb
00:34 <TaZ_> why can't you play it on linux?
00:34 <epsy> they dont have linux builds yet
00:35 <TaZ_> ah
00:35 <TaZ_> will this work for mac?
00:35 <epsy> they dont have mac builds yet
00:35 <TaZ_> :|
00:35 <epsy> they say they will work on osx support, then on lin ux support, although it seems someone's already working on the linux port
00:35 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: you would still have to set it with the
00:35 <ct|kyle> #llog NUM_
00:36 <@armabot> ct|kyle: NUM_HUMANS: [number_of_players]
00:36 <TaZ_> ok
00:36 <epsy> also, luke-jr will be happy as they use XMPP
00:36 <epsy> and Lucifer for the fact they use python for some parts
00:37 <epsy> and BabyBug, too!
00:37 <Lucifer> beind id, the company run by the armadillo aerospace guy, isn't already enough?
00:37 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: but I still could use $_SESSION like a webpage?
00:37 <BabyBug> hello?
00:37 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I think so
00:37 <TaZ_> ql will use XMPP?
00:37 <PinkTomato> I'll try it.
00:37 <epsy> TaZ_, for buddy management and, apparently, authentication
00:37 <TaZ_> o
00:38 <epsy> (it already does, as reported by some players)
00:39 <epsy> (for the python part, a mail reveals it all, muahahaha <https://mailman.ik.nu/pipermail/twisted-jabber/2008-May/000149.html>)
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00:44 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: $_SESSION didn't work
00:44 <ct|kyle> just use $num_players or something
00:45 <PinkTomato> ah, but its stateless?
00:45 <PinkTomato> I can't get the information from another line
00:45 <PinkTomato> wondering whats the best way to do it, last time I wrote a temporary file to disk
00:46 <epsy> good night
00:46 <PinkTomato> night epsy:)
00:46 <ct|kyle> good night epsy :)
00:48 * PinkTomato forgot session_start()
00:48 * epsy slaps PinkTomato
00:48 <Hoax> nn peps
00:49 <TaZ_> g'nite epsy
00:49 <PinkTomato> night Hoax :)
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00:49 <Hoax> trying to get rid of me PinkTomato? :|
00:50 <Lucifer> what are you trying to do, PinkTomato (hi there!) ?
00:50 <PinkTomato> Hoax you said nn peps, as in night to all, rather than to one :)
00:51 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I'm trying to store the variable NUM_HUMANS to use on the line ROUND_COMMENCING
00:51 <Hoax> peps as in epsy ;/
00:51 <Lucifer> er, I was wanting a more foresty answer, you gave me a tree
00:52 <PinkTomato> Hoax ah didn't make that connection :)
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00:52 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I gave you a tree?
00:52 <Lucifer> yeah
00:52 <PinkTomato> and you need a forest?
00:53 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer
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00:53 <Lucifer> it looks to me like you've made a design error, so I was asking what you were trying to design :)
00:55 <PinkTomato> OK, I am reading every line one at a time in ladderlog.txt. Using CTSTY and PHP. When NUM_HUMANS appear, I want to store that integer, so that when ROUND_COMMENCING appears, I can make a decision to load one map when there are less people, and another map when there are lots of people. :).
00:56 <Lucifer> ok, and why do you need session variables? Regular variables should work fine for that
00:56 <Lucifer> $num_humans = whatever;
00:56 <Lucifer> the hard part is telling the server to change the map :)
00:57 <PinkTomato> PHP is stateless?
00:57 <Lucifer> php is a scripting language
00:57 <Lucifer> http is stateless
00:58 <PinkTomato> $humans did not work, and I think its the way I call the script in bash, it reads the line, opens php, php processes and php closes.
00:58 <Lucifer> heh, yeah, that's bad design :)
00:58 <Lucifer> you need to write it as a program, not a webpage
00:59 <Lucifer> so, use loops and stuff
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01:00 <PinkTomato> OK, I'll see if CT wiki helps, I think I saw what I need to do on that
01:06 <PinkTomato> Thanks Lucifer :), stuck a while (1), now works :)
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01:20 <PinkTomato> damn is it normal to have people trying random user logins with names such as maegan etc?
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01:23 <PinkTomato> hi sinewav :)
01:23 <sinewav> hi there
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01:23 <PinkTomato> wb Concord
01:23 <Concord> thanx
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01:35 <PinkTomato> Concord what did you want SERVER_NAME to be?
01:35 <Concord> er
01:36 <Concord> 0x775588the 0xffffffTRONIC 0x775588Spork
01:36 <Concord> perhaps?
01:36 <Concord> =}
01:39 <PinkTomato> #sd spork
01:39 <@armabot> PinkTomato: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “spork” at the moment, sorry.
01:40 <ct|kyle> #si spork
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01:40 <@armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “spork” at the moment, sorry.
01:41 <PinkTomato> I forgot to put server_name behind it *embrass*
01:41 <ct|kyle> heh i did that once
01:42 <PinkTomato> That name is pretty neat :D
01:42 * PinkTomato likes colours
01:43 <PinkTomato> royal Purple :D
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01:44 <PinkTomato> #si spork
01:44 <@armabot> PinkTomato: the TRONIC Spork: Players (0/16):
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01:50 <smoothice> PinkTomato: nice job lol
01:59 <smoothice> PinkTomato: map still broken
01:59 <smoothice> PinkTomato: locked out by 404
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02:24 <Concord> #si spork
02:24 <@armabot> Concord: the TRONIC Spork: Players (5/16): <backspace>, Ct_Concord (Concord@ct), nroc, Pink Tomatoes, Roy
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02:56 <PinkTomato> Concord: You have a link on playfortress that instead of leading to Wilid West, has a quick description of the Israel-Palestine conflict :)
02:56 <Concord> do i?
02:56 <Concord> xP
02:56 <Concord> where?
02:57 <PinkTomato> :D Barometer: the most "significant of these" was found at Lagtest.net.
02:58 <Concord> wups
02:59 <Concord> ty
03:00 <PinkTomato> :)
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05:44 <smoothice> #ubuntu
05:44 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
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13:04 <i2020> breep
13:10 <epsy> oh crap, I now have USD 12.600.000
13:10 <epsy> in my junk mail
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13:29 <i2020> big problem epsy
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14:33 <BabyBug> o/
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14:49 <PinkTomato> morning o/
15:02 <K-Yo> oi :)
15:03 <K-Yo> (15:03 here xD)
15:04 <PinkTomato> hehe :D, Only just realised that it's 2pm already! :)
15:08 <K-Yo> :)
15:08 <K-Yo> 15 = 3pm :/
15:15 <PinkTomato> 2pm here* already, whoops :)
15:18 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, aren't you in the US?
15:18 <K-Yo> I thought so...
15:18 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: nope, UK :D
15:18 <PinkTomato> my server is, confusingly :)
15:19 <K-Yo> :)
15:21 <K-Yo> wow
15:21 <K-Yo> epsy, you there?
15:21 <K-Yo> is the latest windows trunk supposed to work?
15:22 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: it dosen't work for either?
15:22 <PinkTomato> mine has ___ everywhere
15:22 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, yeah, same!
15:22 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, and seem fullscreen key doesn't work either
15:22 <PinkTomato> it's so wierd!
15:22 <PinkTomato> or the console input
15:22 <K-Yo> same?
15:22 <K-Yo> did u do some screen shots?
15:23 <PinkTomato> It just crashes a lot. only one: http://dessert.ath.cx/underscored_arma.png
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15:25 <K-Yo> yeah
15:25 <K-Yo> hey zmanuel
15:25 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: Compiled a debug version though,
15:25 <PinkTomato> that one works fine
15:25 <zmanuel> whut?
15:25 <K-Yo> zmanuel, what about the latest (trunk) win built ?
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15:26 <z-man> what about it? I didn't do one.
15:26 <K-Yo> hmmm
15:26 <K-Yo> maybe wrtl did then
15:26 <z-man> And I'm still busy with other stuff here.
15:26 <K-Yo> :)
15:26 <K-Yo> gl then ;)
15:26 <K-Yo> I won't annoy you with it :)
15:26 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: I think z-man posted something regarding the build scripts are what are likely causing it, being out of date
15:27 <z-man> Out of date and incomplete by design.
15:27 <z-man> Lucifer's move to python may fix both :)
15:28 <BabyBug> \o/ python
15:28 <Lucifer> I have to admit I'm not seeing how, but it's likely there's just stuff that isn't being done in windows that needs to be done
15:28 * Lucifer is working on it still, just hungry right now
15:28 <z-man> Feel free to delegate some scripts. Just not to me right now :)
15:29 <z-man> (later perhaps, but we're home again and I have lots of cleaning up and shopping to do to make life with three legs possible)
15:29 <z-man> three healty legs.
15:29 <z-man> between two people.
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15:38 <Lucifer> heh, I tried to get epsy to rewrite version as a python script :)
15:38 <BabyBug> fail miserably Lucifer?
15:39 <Lucifer> he's working in the trunk, and I haven't checked to see if he did it
15:40 * Lucifer needs to re-work how resources are copied from proto to included
15:51 <Lucifer> that's neat
15:51 <Lucifer> if you're writing a comment line in Kate, and you want to make the next line a comment line,
15:51 <Lucifer> press shift-return and it'll be made so
15:51 <BabyBug> kate?
15:51 <madmax> don't you use the editor you've written? :P
15:51 <PinkTomato> KDE text editor I think ?
15:52 <PinkTomato> I'll remember that tip :)
15:57 <Lucifer> madmax: no, I don't use it anymore
15:57 <Lucifer> never finished porting it to qt4
15:57 <Lucifer> and I needed stuff from it that I just didn't have time to add :(
15:58 <madmax> oh
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16:19 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: I think the problems with the current windows build is related to the use of option -O2 when compiling. I have no idea what -O2 does. :)
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16:23 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: I'm sure that's the problem now, something is causing -O2 to fail in windows, I have a working windows armagetron 0.3.1 now :)
16:42 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, okay
16:42 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, u got a bin? :D
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16:49 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: a binary? try: http://dessert.ath.cx/download/armagetronad-0.3.1_alpha2.win32_compileoption.exe :)
16:50 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, ty :)
17:08 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: does it work?
17:08 <Lucifer> obviously, he's been off playing for 18 minutes now
17:09 <PinkTomato> hehe, Lucifer :)
17:09 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: check the incam view with the default cockpit ;)
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17:17 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: -O2 is just to set the level of code optimization
17:17 <Lucifer> performance may suffer, but how can it be called suffering if the game doesn't work when optimized?
17:19 <Lucifer> ok, I can't concentrate, I'm just too hungry
17:19 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: ah :), sounds like it'll be a pain to debug though
17:26 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, what's stragne there?
17:27 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: Strange where :)?
17:28 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, cockpit
17:28 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: Has voodoo's Rear-view :)
17:28 <K-Yo> orly?
17:28 <K-Yo> not for me :/
17:30 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, I don't have default xD
17:30 <PinkTomato> you have the minimal cockpit_file i think :)
17:30 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: :) hehe
17:30 <K-Yo> I have sol's
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17:42 <ivantis2> whats someones AIM? i just got a new one
17:47 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50870B7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
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17:49 <nsh22> hey
17:51 <K-Yo> hi nsh22
17:52 <ivantis2> z-man, you have AIM right? username?
17:52 <z-man> I have it, but I don't use it.
17:52 <nsh22> y are ther 3 ivantises
17:53 <ivantis2> different computers
17:53 <nsh22> oh
17:53 <PinkTomato> but there's only one ivantis
17:54 <nsh22> lol
17:54 <nsh22> i kind figured that
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17:57 <animuson> hes not even here >_> u coulda just told me :P
17:57 <PinkTomato> #seen hoop
17:57 <@armabot> PinkTomato: hoop was last seen in #armagetron 3 weeks, 0 days, 20 hours, 17 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <hoop> ah!
17:57 <PinkTomato> hoop's been on a long absence
17:57 <nsh22> #seen neal
17:57 <@armabot> nsh22: I have not seen neal.
17:58 <nsh22> #seen nsh22
17:58 <@armabot> nsh22: nsh22 was last seen in #armagetron 11 seconds ago: <nsh22> #seen neal
18:05 <ivantis2> dude. where is hoop gone?
18:06 <ivantis2> we were working on something together
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18:07 <PinkTomato> probably just Christmas :)
18:10 <K-Yo> #ls hoop
18:10 <madmax> hoop was on just yesterday
18:11 <@armabot> K-Yo: -»|hoop has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 17 hours 14 minutes ago.
18:11 <K-Yo> today too
18:11 <Lizmatic> #ls flex
18:11 <K-Yo> well
18:11 <Lizmatic> #ls sav
18:11 <ivantis2> yeah. i probably wouldnt have been online during break so much if i didnt have a G1
18:11 <@armabot> Lizmatic: Flexgirl has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 4 hours 47 minutes ago.
18:11 <@armabot> Lizmatic: j1qsavv has last been seen on The YELLOW Submarine 3 hours 57 minutes ago.
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18:28 <nsh22> my comp crashed :( stupid windows movie maker
18:29 <madmax> lol
18:29 <nsh22> #ident
18:29 -!- davidpinto_ [n=davidpin@78.147.164.69] has joined #armagetron
18:29 <nsh22> #identify
18:29 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
18:29 <nsh22> hey david pinto
18:32 <nsh22> i need more pie
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18:33 <P4> teabot: echo whoami
18:33 <teabot> whoami
18:33 <P4> teabot: echo #whoami
18:33 <teabot> #whoami
18:33 <@armabot> teabot: I don't recognize you.
18:34 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1279548933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
18:34 <nsh22> #identidy
18:34 <nsh22> #identify
18:34 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
18:36 * nsh22 has more pie
18:37 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
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18:48 <ivantis2> oop! google has changed their icon once more
18:48 <nsh22> lol
18:48 <nsh22> i noticed that as well
18:48 <ivantis2> i just now noticed
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18:53 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/kyle/ctf/ctf_spork-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by kyle
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19:03 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: PING
19:04 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: pong :)
19:14 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: never mind, was testing new map, but server has errors
19:14 <PinkTomato> oh :)
19:17 <nsh22> ello
19:27 <ivantis2> anyone here have a Wii?
19:27 <nsh22> no
19:28 <ivantis2> really? it only took you that long to pm everyone to ask if they have a wii?
19:28 <Lucifer> I have to take a wii
19:28 <Lucifer> I have a wii wii
19:28 <Lucifer> wii, this is fun
19:29 <nsh22> lol how about wii stop this be for wii cant control ourselves any longer XD
19:29 <nsh22> jk
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19:32 <madmax> reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6hhvvWltWc
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19:51 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
19:51 <@armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
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20:12 <akira_arma> @tea
20:12 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:17 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m320e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
20:18 <ivantis2> do you believe this? ivantis is already taken as a screenname on AIM
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20:42 <madmax> #googlefight ivantis notivantis
20:42 <Lizz> hi maxxy
20:44 <epsy> one more liz around here
20:45 <epsy> #fight ivantis ivantis2 ivantis3
20:45 <@armabot> epsy: Error: The command "fight" is available in the Alias, Google, and Sourceforge plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "fight".
20:45 <epsy> #google fight ivantis ivantis2 ivantis3
20:45 <@armabot> epsy: ivantis: 3290, ivantis2: 123, ivantis3: 54
20:45 <epsy> @nickometer
20:45 <Lizz> epsy: i dont hang around.. i just float in and out lol
20:45 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "epsy" is 0.0%.
20:45 <epsy> @nickometer ivantis
20:45 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis" is 0.0%.
20:45 <epsy> @nickometer ivantis2
20:45 <epsy> @nickometer ivantis3
20:45 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis2" is 14.2%.
20:45 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis3" is 21.5%.
20:46 <epsy> haha
20:46 <madmax> ooh, hi Lizz!
20:46 <Lizz> :)
20:46 <Lizz> how ya been maxxy?
20:47 <akira_arma> @tea
20:47 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:47 <epsy> akira_arma, 1 min
20:47 <Flex> @nickometer flex
20:47 <teabot> Flex: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "flex" is 0.0%.
20:47 <madmax> good, you?
20:47 <Flex> woho
20:47 <epsy> @nickometer madmax
20:47 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "madmax" is 0.0%.
20:48 <epsy> damn :)
20:48 <Lizz> pretty good.. same old same old lol
20:49 <madmax> did you get to meet mel gibson already? :-P
20:49 <Lizz> ages ago :P
20:49 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m320e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
20:49 <ivantis2> lame nick ometer? how does this work?
20:49 <Lizz> i have dinner with him and his family every couple of months lmao
20:50 <ivantis2> #nickometer
20:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ivantis2" is 14.2%.
20:50 <ivantis2> #nickometer guru3
20:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "guru3" is 21.5%.
20:50 <madmax> lol
20:50 <ivantis2> with numbers is lame? how lame
20:50 <epsy> yeah Numb3r5 are l4m3
20:51 <ivantis2> #help nickometer
20:51 <@armabot> ivantis2: (nickometer [<nick>]) -- Tells you how lame said nick is. If <nick> is not given, uses the nick of the person giving the command.
20:51 <epsy> @nickometer ε
20:51 <teabot> epsy: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "ε" is 38.4%.
20:51 <epsy> :<
20:51 <BabyBug> @nickometer
20:52 <BabyBug> =(
20:52 <epsy> @nickometer
20:52 <epsy> crappy bot
20:52 <BabyBug> #nickometer
20:52 <@armabot> BabyBug: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "BabyBug" is 0.0%.
20:52 <BabyBug> \o/
20:52 <epsy> incoming netsplit or just freeze
20:53 <ivantis2> ?
20:53 <epsy> lets see
20:53 <ivantis2> what?
20:53 <epsy> sounds as if there's going to be a netsplit soon
20:54 <ivantis2> i didnt hear anything
20:54 <BabyBug> exactly!
20:54 <epsy> agnagnagna learn to read
20:54 -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: The_Master, Ttech[daedalus], Stewah, teabot, ivantis, Flex, MrBougo
20:54 <BabyBug> ^^
20:54 <epsy> told you :)
20:55 <ivantis2> how correct
20:55 <ivantis2> wolfe split
20:55 <epsy> and actually, WE got split
20:55 <BabyBug> epsy, liar! we have more people...we're more dominant!
20:55 <ivantis2> really?
20:55 -!- The_Master [n=master@broke.the.quantumuniverse.net] has joined #armagetron
20:55 <epsy> whois yourself
20:55 -!- Netsplit over, joins: teabot, Flex, MrBougo, Stewah, Ttech[daedalus]
20:56 <ivantis2> uh it said i was online in whois..?
20:56 <epsy> what?
20:56 <ivantis2> also said i was on wolfe
20:56 <ivantis2> weid
20:57 <ivantis2> yes weid, very weid
20:57 <epsy> didn't get a word of it anyway
20:58 <ivantis2> whatever
20:58 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m320e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit ["-a-"]
20:59 <epsy> darn, please split ivantis
21:01 <epsy> what was the thread with people having trouble downgrading to 0.2.8 after having tried the 0.3.* builds ?
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21:06 <epsy> grm, I'm lost
21:08 <MaZuffeR> Go that way! No, the other way!
21:09 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18941&highlight=server+browser
21:10 <epsy> found the problem
21:21 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac9eb40.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
21:30 <Lucifer> I'm supposed to turn left, right?
21:31 <MaZuffeR> right
21:31 * Lucifer turns right
21:32 <MaZuffeR> not that right, the other right
21:33 <Lucifer> I may have solved my mp3 player while working out problem
21:33 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpit_Tutorial
21:33 <epsy> oops
21:33 <Lucifer> I found the necklace thing they gave me on my nasa trip, the kind that you attach a name tag/security badge to
21:33 <akira_arma> @tea
21:34 <teabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): .:] JJBean, .:] W33D, Hanniz, Luzifer (Lacrymosa@forums), Pseudonymous, Slice, ~|DS|~zion, ~|DS|~|Hype|~, °~BaBâ
21:34 <Lucifer> it was trivial to hang my mp3 player on it, and it hangs down where the earphone cable can actually reach and still give my head freedom of motion
21:35 <Lucifer> now I need to see if it'll work while riding my bike ;)
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21:41 <madmax> I recently found that you can't use both earphones at the same time according to portuguese law (while riding a bicycle on the road)
21:41 <PinkTomato> does that mean it is illegal to cycle if you can't hear?
21:42 <PinkTomato> that's interesting law though,
21:43 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-113-167.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
21:43 <madmax> I don't think it's enforced at all heh
21:43 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
21:43 <PinkTomato> Hearing is handy when your cycling
21:44 <BabyBug> 0.3.1 sucks
21:44 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: what's wrong with it?
21:44 <epsy> ubuntu sucks
21:44 <PinkTomato> ubuntu or windows? easy choice
21:44 <epsy> ubuntu still sucks
21:44 <BabyBug> On 0.3.0 i was getting 200FPS...on 0.3.1 i'm getting 59FPS...
21:45 * epsy slaps BabyBug
21:45 <PinkTomato> epsy: does debian suck?
21:45 * smoothice slaps epsy
21:45 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: isn't that ideal?
21:45 <epsy> doesn't the 60fps sound like anything to you BabyBug ?
21:45 <smoothice> epsy: ubuntu rocks
21:45 <epsy> PinkTomato, a bit
21:46 <epsy> smoothice, not ubuntu's FTGL
21:46 <PinkTomato> epsy: what would you use?
21:46 <BabyBug> epsy, no?
21:46 <epsy> I use arch
21:46 <epsy> BabyBug, vsync
21:46 <fonkay> Lucifer: A lanyard does not sound like a good idea.
21:46 <fonkay> Or it's proven not good for me at least.
21:46 <BabyBug> epsy, i've tried that on every single setting..it doesnt change anything..
21:46 <Lucifer> lanyard?
21:46 <fonkay> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanyard
21:47 * PinkTomato wishes I could get vsync to work
21:47 <fonkay> "I necklace thingy for holing things"
21:47 <fonkay> holding*
21:47 <Lucifer> ahhh
21:47 <Lucifer> it worked for jogging, my stick workout, and juggling :)
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21:48 <fonkay> I'm surprise it worked for jogging.
21:48 <Lucifer> I put it under my shirt
21:48 <fonkay> I always found that it bounced around far too much to be comfortable.
21:48 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: -10F for me next Friday
21:48 <Lucifer> maybe it helps that I put it under my bra ;)
21:48 <fonkay> hehe
21:49 <fonkay> I preferred the armband personally.
21:49 <Lucifer> well, I did have to carry my stick when I was jogging, so I carried it across my chest and held the mp3 player in place
21:49 <BabyBug> Lucifer has moobs? :o
21:49 <Lucifer> BabyBug: NO!
21:50 <BabyBug> mwahaha moob man!
21:50 <Lucifer> but my belly is returning, and I have to do something about that
21:50 <ct|kyle> #g -10F in C
21:50 <fonkay> my mp3 player came with both.
21:50 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (-10) degrees Fahrenheit = -23.3333333 degrees Celsius
21:50 <Lucifer> my mp3 player didn't come with any way to strap it to me
21:50 <smoothice> #g 1 percent in fraction
21:50 <@armabot> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:51 <ct|kyle> nice Back to my favorite temps :)
21:51 * ct|kyle will be able to walk outside and hear the snow crunching under his feet
21:52 <fonkay> But yea... if you know it works for you already then. All the power to you
21:56 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
21:56 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 30.4°F (2:56 PM CST on January 10, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Steady).
21:57 <ivantis2> did you know: lawrence has the 2nd highest percentage of professional musicians in the world?
21:57 <PinkTomato> #cinf -7.2
21:57 <@armabot> You don't need this, just use Math convert
21:57 <PinkTomato> :'(
21:58 <PinkTomato> #g -7.2 centigrade in f
21:58 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (-7.2) degrees Celsius = 19.04 degrees Fahrenheit
21:58 <ivantis2> #help cinf
21:59 <@armabot> ivantis2: (cinf <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo You don't need this, just use Math convert".
21:59 <PinkTomato> Channel 6 Downtown?
21:59 <PinkTomato> #help tea
21:59 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (tea <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo cafe".
21:59 <ivantis2> PinkTomato: yeah?
21:59 <ivantis2> local tv station here
21:59 <PinkTomato> Why is there a community name based upon a TV station?
22:00 <ivantis2> community name?
22:01 <ivantis2> i think that is the nearest place they measure temperature and such here
22:01 <PinkTomato> Oh, So it's not a district/suburb(that's the word is was after) of a town/city?
22:01 <ivantis2> no
22:02 <PinkTomato> ah :), that's OK then
22:02 <ivantis2> just a building for news/weather
22:03 <Flex> #ls lizmatic
22:03 <@armabot> Flex: Lizmatic has last been seen on Fortress Café 4 hours 2 minutes ago.
22:03 <ivantis2> #weather 66046
22:03 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Jeff's Weather Lab, Lawrence, Kansas is 38.3°F (3:03 PM CST on January 10, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Steady).
22:03 <ivantis2> yeah, nearest weather place is how its measured
22:03 <Flex> #weather london
22:03 <@armabot> Flex: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
22:04 <PinkTomato> #weather London, UK
22:04 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 28.4°F (8:50 PM GMT on January 10, 2009). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
22:04 <PinkTomato> #thank
22:04 <@armabot> You're welcome, PinkTomato
22:05 <Flex> hey i knew that..
22:05 -!- Nick2 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1279548933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:05 <Nick2> hey
22:05 <Nick2> ffs
22:05 -!- Nick2 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1279548933.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
22:05 <PinkTomato> Flex: hehe :)
22:05 <ivantis2> ?
22:05 <Flex> where's lizmatic :(
22:06 <epsy> BabyBug, gfx drivers?
22:07 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lckdscl@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #armagetron
22:08 <BabyBug> epsy, installed and up to date
22:08 <epsy> BabyBug, what are your gfx drivers?
22:09 <BabyBug> nvidia-180..
22:09 <BabyBug> 180.18
22:09 -!- Nick2 [n=Neal@bas3-barrie18-1279548933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:09 <Nick2> ok, these nicks are pissing me off
22:10 <epsy> BabyBug, check in the nvidia control panel then
22:10 <Nick2> its neal btw
22:10 <epsy> Nick2, ok?
22:10 <ivantis2> what nicks?
22:10 <Nick2> my name settings
22:10 <Nick2> for irc
22:10 <epsy> "Nick2" I presume
22:10 <Nick2> im neal
22:10 <epsy> I've seen your username
22:10 <ivantis2> so change them?
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22:11 <Nick2> im trying but its being gay
22:11 <Nick2> ill ry again
22:11 <epsy> change irc client?
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22:12 <Nick2> FFS
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22:12 <BabyBug> epsy, ooopsy ^^ ty =P
22:12 <epsy> BabyBug, what about the FTGL stuff?
22:12 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: what was it Oo
22:13 <BabyBug> epsy, When it's compiled using FTGL 2.1.2 (i'm using the .package file to install it) It all seems to work fine. No crashes and the characters display correctly aswell
22:13 <epsy> statically linked, right?
22:13 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, i needed to tick "Sync to VBlank" in nvidia-settings
22:13 <BabyBug> epsy, i'm guessing so...
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22:15 <nsh22> wewt
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22:29 <epsy> also, hoop spotted on forums
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22:36 <nsh22> hey smooth
22:36 <smoothice> hi
22:37 <smoothice> neal
22:37 <smoothice> join #smoothice
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22:43 <Lucifer> epsy: I've been statically linking my ftgl to the autopackage build, since people who keep up with the newest ubuntu have a broken ftgl
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22:43 <PinkTomato> what version of FTGL is broken?
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22:44 <Lucifer> whatever version ships with kubuntu 8.10
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22:44 <BabyBug> 2.1.3 rc5
22:44 <BabyBug> i think..
22:44 <PinkTomato> I have 2.1.2-3 Oo
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22:45 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: do you have a segfault when you look at the server browser?
22:45 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you have hardy heron?
22:45 <BabyBug> Intrepid Ibex is the one which introduced 2.1.3 rc5
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22:46 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: Everything is ok here, BabyBug: just googling those names know, I prefer numbers
22:46 <BabyBug> 8.04 = hardy heron
22:46 <BabyBug> 8.10 = intrepid ibex
22:46 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: you right, 8.04
22:46 <Lucifer> that's the same version I've got
22:46 <PinkTomato> i could have sworn I hat 8.10 :)
22:47 <BabyBug> 8.04 still has the working ftgl =(
22:47 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you know you want to upgrade! xD
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22:47 <Lucifer> heh, not before 0.3.1 is released
22:47 <BabyBug> *growls*
22:47 <PinkTomato> Can't you just download the 8.04 .deb :)?
22:47 <Lucifer> although that's taking a little longer than I hoped
22:47 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, won't install =(
22:47 <PinkTomato> aw :(
22:48 <Lucifer> we also need to fix our configure script to be able to use a different ftgl anyway
22:48 <Lucifer> then babybug could build her own ftgl and just use that
22:48 <BabyBug> build my own ftgl?
22:48 <Lucifer> yeah
22:49 <BabyBug> uh..*confused*
22:49 <Lucifer> download an older version of ftgl, build it and have it install somewhere else, like ~/.local
22:49 <BabyBug> Lucifer, and older version of ftgl won't compile with GCC 4.3 (which i have)
22:49 <Lucifer> the problem is, you can't tell our configure script to use an ftgl that's installed somewhere else
22:49 <Lucifer> really?
22:49 <BabyBug> really
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22:49 <Lucifer> install an older compiler :)
22:49 <BabyBug> ...
22:50 <Lucifer> doesn't matter right now, our configure script doesn't successfully let you use a different ftgl than the system one anyway
22:50 <BabyBug> i'd rather wait for a fix than downgrade everything :P
22:50 <Lucifer> distributions usually allow an option to use an older compiler without downgrading everything
22:50 <BabyBug> Oh yeh!
22:50 <nsh22> hey luke
22:52 <BabyBug> but still..i'd rather a fix! =P
22:53 <BabyBug> and Lucifer..i thought the configure script had a --with-ftgl=/path/here thingy?
22:53 <BabyBug> wouldn't that work?
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23:09 <luke-jr> nsh22: hey, can you use email? XD
23:10 <luke-jr> BabyBug: AFAIK, the FTGL thing is a FTGL bug, not Armagetron bug
23:10 <luke-jr> therefore, the fix comes from FTGL
23:11 <BabyBug> shifting the blame...typical
23:11 <nsh22> yes i can
23:12 <nsh22> any specxifc info?
23:12 <Lucifer> BabyBug: that configure option doesn't work, as I recently learned ;)
23:12 <BabyBug> oh...lol
23:13 <Lucifer> whoah, this is the first twg game where the worms win, isn't it?
23:13 <epsy> yup
23:13 <Lucifer> well, I need a shower, and I need to go buy some more orange juice
23:13 <Lucifer> bbiab
23:14 <Lucifer> (I also need to quit drinking orange juice like water)
23:14 <nsh22> lol
23:14 <nsh22> i need to go to the store right now as well, damnit
23:14 <nsh22> byby
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23:23 <madmax> #sd ess 2
23:23 <@armabot> madmax: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2: Players (6/26): Ct_Concord (Concord@ct), CT_emmy, MrRAM, ~|DS|~G5 (G5@forums), ~|DS|~|Alien|~
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23:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8783 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nServerInfo.cpp): Manuel Moos: Don't spam about unknown tags in server config files.
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00:09 <noob_saibot> concord u there
00:14 <Concord> yeah!
00:14 <Concord> hey noob_saibot
00:14 <noob_saibot> yoo
00:14 <noob_saibot> i just sent u a email
00:14 <noob_saibot> hehe
00:17 <Concord> kk, looks like you got it worked out tho
00:19 <luke-jr> z-man: any way for clients to detect they're over a certain access level?
00:22 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it's possible we're misusing ftgl, or they added some sort of initialization step we're not doing, or something like that
00:22 <luke-jr> Lucifer: possible, but IIRC someone found it was otherwise
00:22 <Lucifer> I'm not ready to shift blame to ftgl, because at the end of the day, we're the ones with the broken game
00:27 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r976 Don't spam about unknown tags in server config files....
00:28 <BabyBug> \o/
00:28 <luke-jr> Lucifer: problem FTGL is still RC, so it can be fixed before a final ☺
00:29 <BabyBug> it's been rc5 since juneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
00:29 <BabyBug> lord knows how long they'll take (if it is indeed their bug)
00:30 <PinkTomato> why did ubuntu include it in stable if it was release candiate Oo
00:31 <PinkTomato> Ah, I suppose 8.04 is their stable :)
00:31 <BabyBug> no, 8.04 is just LTS
00:31 <BabyBug> 8.10 is stable
00:32 <BabyBug> 9.04 is unstable
00:32 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: cuz Ubuntu is retards
00:32 <PinkTomato> They also release either 8.04 or 8.10 with Firefox 3 Beta 5
00:33 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, 8.04 is LTS. Which means it's supported for longer. Firefox 2.x would of been unsupported by mozilla while 8.04 was still supported by ubuntu. So they had no choice but to include the FF 3.x beta
00:34 <noob_saibot> concord how do i enter the room for tomorrow
00:34 <PinkTomato> Ah, that makes sense BabyBug :)
00:34 <BabyBug> ^^
00:35 <Concord> noob_saibot look at your private messages in irc
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00:44 <noob_saibot> hey armabot long time no see man
00:44 <PinkTomato> xD
00:45 <Lucifer> armabot's a girl
00:45 <BabyBug> liesw
00:45 <PinkTomato> why so?
00:45 <BabyBug> lies*
00:45 <noob_saibot> i am trying to flirt with armabot
00:46 <noob_saibot> she is very shy i guess
00:46 <PinkTomato> #flirt
00:46 <PinkTomato> needs a flirt
00:46 <noob_saibot> or else she is just scared of such a strong, goodlooking american boy like myself
00:46 <Lucifer> maybe she knows you're lame?
00:47 <Lucifer> #flirt
00:47 <apparition> or a virgin
00:47 <noob_saibot> shes got it twisted homies
00:47 <Lucifer> #flirt
00:47 <@armabot> /me winks at Lucifer.
00:48 <noob_saibot> appa remember when i asked you if you wanted that sandwich in sumo the other day
00:48 <PinkTomato> xD
00:48 <BabyBug> #help flirt
00:48 <@armabot> BabyBug: Error: There is no command "flirt".
00:48 <BabyBug> ><
00:49 <PinkTomato> I don't think you need help for that function BabyBug :)
00:49 <BabyBug> shhhhhhhh
00:50 <Lucifer> clearly she does, she couldn't even get a bot to flirt with her
00:50 <apparition> yeah, i do
00:50 * BabyBug castrates Lucifer
00:51 <noob_saibot> i was banished for a week cuz of it
00:51 <apparition> wtf
00:51 <Lucifer> see? Look at this incompetent flirting!
00:51 <noob_saibot> Mr. Spookster got jealous he didnt get a sammy
00:51 <BabyBug> pssht! No more naughty pics for you Lucifer!
00:51 <noob_saibot> and that I only offered my special juice to you appa
00:51 * Lucifer looks at his naughtypics/BabyBug folder and notices it's still empty
00:52 <BabyBug> =P
00:52 <BabyBug> liar!
00:52 <apparition> spook is a fuckin idiot
00:53 <noob_saibot> yeah i dont like him at all
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00:54 <PinkTomato> a sammy?
00:54 <apparition> i'm sorry, but some people need to just relax and play the game
00:54 <apparition> people get so uptight
00:54 <noob_saibot> sammy = sandwich lol
00:54 <apparition> did you hear about monkey, noob?
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00:54 <noob_saibot> that he quit?
00:54 <apparition> no, he didn't quit
00:54 <apparition> he is going to "play in silence"
00:55 <noob_saibot> he emailed me saying he wasnt playing no more
00:55 <noob_saibot> oh really
00:55 <noob_saibot> what does that mean
00:55 <noob_saibot> lol
00:55 <apparition> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18885
00:56 <PinkTomato> noob_saibot: so you've been banned because you didn't give someone a sandwich? O_o
00:56 <apparition> it was a special, vulgar sandwich
00:58 <apparition> where was monkey from?
00:58 <Lucifer> mental hospital?
00:58 <PinkTomato> I think they were british
00:59 <noob_saibot> lol that was a funny topic
00:59 <noob_saibot> yeah i offered a vulgar sammy to apparition but its no biggie
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01:00 <noob_saibot> i havent even seen monkey playing lately though
01:00 <PinkTomato> I have no idea what you mean by a vulgar sandwich
01:00 <PinkTomato> #seen monkey
01:00 <@armabot> PinkTomato: monkey was last seen in #armagetron 1 year, 30 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 53 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Monkey> doh
01:00 <PinkTomato> #seen Monkey_arma
01:00 <apparition> pink tomato, it's a sandwich with man juice on it
01:00 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Monkey_arma was last seen in #armagetron 3 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, 47 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Monkey_arma> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=201247&sid=2238c3c03ac7588806df29e9e527ed40#201247
01:00 <PinkTomato> apparition: eww.
01:00 <apparition> not my idea
01:01 <noob_saibot> haha
01:01 <noob_saibot> it was my idea, one of my master plans
01:01 <apparition> #seen regit
01:01 <@armabot> apparition: I have not seen regit.
01:01 <Lucifer> so what's a sandwich with boobsweat on it?
01:01 <PinkTomato> there are much weirder things than sweaty and sticky sandwichs
01:01 <apparition> really?
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01:02 <nsh22> lol
01:02 <Concord> lol
01:02 <noob_saibot> appa, can i press you to toast topped with nut butter?
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01:03 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: like a Linux distribution whose security policy amounts to Simon Says
01:03 <noob_saibot> damn idk if i should go out tonight
01:03 <noob_saibot> got a lot of snow here i hate that ishhh
01:05 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: hehe :)
01:05 <apparition> dude, we got 7 or 8 inches of snow here in the last 12 hours
01:05 <PinkTomato> that would be weird Oo
01:06 <noob_saibot> that sucks
01:06 <noob_saibot> i hate snow
01:06 <PinkTomato> #g 8 inches in cm
01:06 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 8 inches = 20.32 centimeters
01:06 <ct|kyle> apparition: we got 8 CM
01:06 <ct|kyle> today only about 1 CM
01:07 <nsh22> we got nothing for once
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01:07 <PinkTomato> 20Cm's that's a hell of a lot of snow
01:07 <nsh22> not really
01:07 <apparition> kyle, my roommates and i are getting two XL pizzas. come up to ann arbor.
01:07 <apparition> 20cm's in 12 hours is a lot, i don't care where you live
01:08 <epsy> what did I miss ?
01:08 <apparition> dong sizes
01:08 <sinewav> jizz
01:08 <PinkTomato> um... sandwiches...
01:08 <epsy> hey wait, windows didn4t fuckup my clock this time
01:08 <ct|kyle> it would take 2.5 hours (probably more with snow)
01:09 <apparition> kyle, what's more important, time spent driving or HUGE pizza?
01:09 <ct|kyle> lol epsy, I know what you mean :P
01:09 <noob_saibot> who wants a jizz sammy?
01:09 <noob_saibot> i am making some now on english muffins
01:09 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: how do you drive in 20cm Snow Oo
01:09 <epsy> brb, upgrading xchat
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01:09 <nsh22> easy
01:09 <PinkTomato> apparition: i meant ;)
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01:09 <apparition> pink, they plow the snow
01:10 <epsy> I hope it handles channel keys properly now :<
01:10 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: that usually amounts to about 5 CM on raods. probably much less on highways
01:10 <PinkTomato> Here in the UK, even just 2cm of snow causes chaos
01:10 <ct|kyle> lol
01:10 <PinkTomato> You can't go anyway
01:10 <BabyBug> epsy, what didn't work last about em last time =x
01:10 <epsy> still notmeh
01:11 <ct|kyle> my Brother-in-laws tire wall broke today going down the highway
01:11 <PinkTomato> anywhere, schools close, people don't bother going to work, The radio's go crazy sayuing, ONLY travel if its nessescrry
01:11 <epsy> BabyBug, well, I just can't set a channel with a key in autojoin
01:11 <BabyBug> epsy, sure you can!
01:11 <epsy> BabyBug, how?
01:11 <epsy> I have #xxxxxxx along with it's password in the list
01:11 <epsy> and I'm not in it right now
01:11 <BabyBug> Put the channels that have the keys, before the channels that don't have the keys
01:12 <epsy> how would I do that?
01:12 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: with 2 CM all that?
01:13 <BabyBug> epsy, you're in about in the favourite channels input box yeh?
01:13 <BabyBug> on*
01:13 <noob_saibot> English n00bs
01:13 <epsy> yeah
01:13 <ct|kyle> it takes at least 5 CM on snow here
01:13 <epsy> that's sorted by name
01:13 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: maybe a bit more than 2Cm, and I might have exagratted a bit, but it is true the english sucks at handling snow
01:13 <epsy> and stop talking about [very small] penisses
01:13 <BabyBug> #chanwithkey,#keychan2,#otherchan,#otherchan key1here,key2here,
01:14 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
01:14 * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle away
01:14 <BabyBug> no more cuddles!
01:14 <noob_saibot> can Nickymook has cuddles???
01:14 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: but your watchdog is away
01:14 <BabyBug> ...
01:15 <ct|kyle> now's your time you can cheat on her
01:15 <BabyBug> i don't want to cheat on herrrr =P
01:15 <epsy> do I have to put an empty key for each chan I have?
01:15 <BabyBug> epsy, no. Just make sure the chans with keys are first in the list
01:15 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: then whats the fun of having her, when you don't wanna sneak around when she is gone
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01:16 <epsy> works
01:16 <BabyBug> =)
01:16 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, shh lol
01:17 <apparition> anyone see mirrors
01:18 <PinkTomato> mirrors?
01:18 <apparition> the movie, mirrors
01:18 <PinkTomato> there's a movie called mirrors?
01:18 <apparition> yes, sir
01:18 <PinkTomato> are they running out of titles?
01:19 <BabyBug> lol
01:19 <epsy> then there will be the mirror I, the mirror II, etc
01:19 <epsy> wait - something's wrong
01:20 <BabyBug> you can't see yourself in the mirror?! :o
01:20 <epsy> :D
01:20 * noob_saibot is always looking in the mirror
01:20 * BabyBug has a mirror attached to the laptop \o/
01:20 <apparition> i know it sounds silly, but i heard it's a decent movie
01:21 <PinkTomato> "An ex-cop and his family are the target of an evil force that is using mirrors as a gateway into their home."
01:21 <PinkTomato> at least it has a title that represents what the movie is about
01:21 <noob_saibot> sounds pretty lame
01:22 <PinkTomato> It looks like a horror
01:22 <apparition> idk it's just something to watch
01:23 <apparition> stop making fun of me!
01:23 <noob_saibot> the new Underworld movie looks sick
01:23 <noob_saibot> comes out friday
01:23 <PinkTomato> wait wait sick?
01:23 <apparition> brb going to get pop/soda/coke
01:23 <noob_saibot> sick...dope....cool
01:23 <noob_saibot> get with it Pinky
01:23 <noob_saibot> ;-)
01:24 <noob_saibot> ima teach you proper English homie
01:24 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
01:24 <PinkTomato> I never know what sick people mean:)
01:24 <noob_saibot> lol
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01:25 <iccleoldme> ......
01:25 <PinkTomato> iccleoldme: ?
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01:25 <epsy> haha, where's the mirror?
01:25 <BabyBug> Erm...Has anyone noticed a bug with 0.3.1...That there's no "create new team" option?
01:26 <BabyBug> But there's two "Join spectators" options
01:26 <epsy> pwned
01:26 <PinkTomato> are you in spectator mode?
01:26 <epsy> anyway, the team selection sucks
01:26 <BabyBug> no i'm playing..
01:26 <epsy> is buggy, and drives me nuts
01:27 <epsy> ie. how come you just fuck everyone else waiting for a spot when you hit create new team
01:27 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I have create new team here
01:27 <BabyBug> oh wait it's there now...
01:27 <BabyBug> it wasn't there before"
01:27 <BabyBug> !
01:27 <BabyBug> but there's still two join spectators...
01:27 <epsy> now that's an apparition :D
01:28 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: two join spectators here as well
01:28 <BabyBug> arma should be coded in python!
01:28 <PinkTomato> it seems they are "teams that ceased to exist"
01:28 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: 2 FPS ftw!
01:29 <epsy> BabyBug, have fun
01:29 <epsy> *cough* slune *cough*
01:29 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: http://www.timestretch.com/FractalBenchmark.html
01:29 <PinkTomato> it's 200 times slower than C :)
01:30 <PinkTomato> epsy: There's a game in python?
01:30 <epsy> ok, we should code arma in IO then
01:30 * PinkTomato is downloading
01:30 <epsy> PinkTomato, slune, which I just coughed
01:31 <epsy> (which runs at 2spf here)
01:31 <epsy> though, when it used to work, it was a neat game
01:31 <PinkTomato> epsy: hehe :)
01:32 <BabyBug> Why does arma use 100% of one core when in the menus btw?
01:33 <PinkTomato> epsy: slune looks nice, but I can't even register 1 frame on the counter :)
01:35 <BabyBug> at least slune isn't flat!
01:35 <BabyBug> and you can go up!
01:35 <BabyBug> and jump!
01:37 <BabyBug> when is arma gonna have jumping? =)
01:37 <PinkTomato> Depends if you can call 320x240 at 12 FPS playable ;)
01:37 * BabyBug was getting 50FPS...
01:38 <PinkTomato> you have an nvidea graphics card :D
01:38 <PinkTomato> I have an intel chipset
01:39 <BabyBug> Do you have sparks turned on in arma?
01:39 <PinkTomato> Oh, I should turn that off
01:39 <PinkTomato> I have to play arma in 640x480 for a full fort match
01:39 <BabyBug> why are they such an FPS killer..lol
01:40 <PinkTomato> I wonder if it is because there are lots of them :)
01:40 <Concord> pink, you can make it manageable if you turn off everything
01:41 <PinkTomato> Is that what the GLEW will make better? that thing with the particles?
01:41 <PinkTomato> Concord: I should do that :)
01:41 <Concord> I have everything off beside alphablending
01:41 <Concord> because I none of it effects my gameplay, so I'd rather have the fps
01:42 <PinkTomato> me too :)
01:42 <Concord> alpha blending tho, I need that one, because its kinda obtrusive when off, imo
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01:42 <PinkTomato> Concord: i don't think that option makes much of a difference now anyway :)
01:43 <PinkTomato> Graphics cards are so expensive in this blooming country.
01:44 <PinkTomato> I still don't know if I should get the ATI or the NVidea
01:44 <BabyBug> nvidia
01:44 <PinkTomato> The nvidia 9600GSO is £77 though
01:45 <BabyBug> ati is crap on linux :P
01:45 <PinkTomato> If it were acceptable that would be ok :)
01:46 <PinkTomato> I nearly got a 9500GT
01:46 <PinkTomato> glad I realised that was a stupid one to get.
01:46 <PinkTomato> and why the stupid numbers and Inno3D XFX etc?
01:47 * PinkTomato hates graphics card shopping
01:47 <PinkTomato> #g £77 in USD
01:47 <BabyBug> stupid numbers?
01:47 <@armabot> PinkTomato: UK£ 77 = 116.5472 U.S. dollars
01:48 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: well nvidea makes sense.. ish, but ati is a complete branding mess
01:48 <PinkTomato> like the 3800 is better than the 4670 (example, not sure it's true)
01:48 <BabyBug> branding?
01:49 <BabyBug> it is? O.o
01:49 <PinkTomato> Well I go to the online store
01:50 <PinkTomato> ATI Radeon 7000/9250/9550 has its own section
01:50 <PinkTomato> 7000 is a big leap from 9250
01:51 <BabyBug> wait ati? i thought we were talking about nvidia
01:51 <PinkTomato> #g 80$ in GBP
01:51 <BabyBug> i'm so caffuffled
01:51 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 80 US$ = 52.8541226 British pounds
01:52 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: You and me the same
01:52 <PinkTomato> :)
01:52 <PinkTomato> 80$ for the 9600GSO in the states.
01:53 <PinkTomato> OK I'm done ranting now :).
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02:02 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, that benchmark thingy you give me is out of date!
02:02 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: hehe :), how out of date?
02:03 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, i ran the python benchmark and it got "Python Elapsed 4.65
02:03 <BabyBug> "
02:03 <BabyBug> the site says 9.99 seconds :P
02:03 <BabyBug> Benchmark Generated on 2007-06-08 21:11:16
02:03 <BabyBug> that's how out of date
02:03 <BabyBug> lol
02:03 <PinkTomato> Well I would imagine the C one would be twice as quick also :)
02:03 <BabyBug> actually the C one is 0.01 second slower xD
02:04 <BabyBug> (than it's previous benchmark)
02:04 <BabyBug> 0.06
02:04 <PinkTomato> python must have done some optimising then :)
02:07 <BabyBug> ^^
02:08 <PinkTomato> PHP is slow...
02:08 <PinkTomato> I think that site has inspired me to look into python
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02:10 <PinkTomato> Its another Concord duplicate :)
02:11 <BabyBug> lol ^^
02:12 <BabyBug> Did you rerun the php benchmark?
02:13 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, the PHP benchmark runs faster than the python one... =\
02:14 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: are you talking PinkTomato's into converting his server to python?
02:14 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, no
02:15 <BabyBug> saying that php is faster isn't actually the best way to convince someone :P
02:15 <PinkTomato> I get 1.8 seconds with php :)
02:15 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i did not read that :P
02:15 <BabyBug> 1.8........
02:15 <BabyBug> i get 4.14 with php
02:15 <BabyBug> lol
02:15 <Concord> pink :D
02:16 <epsy> BabyBug, Jumping cars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4UBFImE-Ss
02:16 <nsh22> nw just lost a war
02:16 <nsh22> oh well
02:16 <BabyBug> epsy, liar
02:16 <epsy> @title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4UBFImE-Ss
02:16 <teabot> epsy: YouTube - You're Winner! Nexuiz Over The Road Racing
02:17 <BabyBug> epsy, liar
02:17 <PinkTomato> Python 2.6 seconds
02:17 <epsy> there are jumping cars in this vid
02:17 <epsy> (and it's really nexuiz)
02:17 <BabyBug> py3k isn't any faster either ><
02:18 <BabyBug> python is crap ='(
02:18 <epsy> python games are as good as flash games
02:18 * epsy hides
02:18 <PinkTomato> No python is as crap at drawing strange odd star made men :)
02:18 <BabyBug> lol ^^
02:19 <PinkTomato> hi Concord :D
02:19 <Concord> =j
02:20 <epsy> so yeah there are jumping cars in C as well as in python
02:21 <nsh22> hey concorsd
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02:21 <epsy> so, by default, C is better
02:21 <PinkTomato> epsy: what is that all about??
02:21 <epsy> ?
02:21 <PinkTomato> what is the point of drawing a bridge?
02:21 <Concord> epsy, we should consider switching themes to something with wider collumns
02:22 <epsy> heh
02:22 <Concord> it's been complained about 3 or 4 times now
02:22 <Concord> I'm thinking the Journalist one, no header image tho
02:23 <epsy> sad we can't make our own on wordpress.com
02:24 <Concord> we can for 15 bucks, or we could transfer to a co.cc domain and host it on freehostia
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02:24 <Concord> the 2nd option would be free
02:24 <epsy> i'm ok with that, though freehostia may be slow
02:24 <Concord> yeah
02:24 <PinkTomato> only a small website?
02:24 <Concord> that's what gives me pause
02:24 <ct|kyle> freehostia Is slow.
02:25 <epsy> better find another free provider then, heh
02:25 <Concord> http://www.awardspace.com/?aid=MjUyNjI1MjQxOTIw
02:26 <PinkTomato> Concord what do you need? PHP + MySQL?
02:26 <ct|kyle> goto durkadurkaland and see how slow freehostia is
02:26 <Concord> yep
02:26 <Concord> we could go back to kingsofthegrid
02:26 <epsy> did you have direct access?
02:27 <Concord> letme check
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02:29 <ct|kyle> smoothice: How does your VPS seam to be working?
02:29 <Concord> I did, but its an older version of wordpress, though I doubt lack would object to updating
02:33 <epsy> so you don't have direct access to the actual files?
02:44 <Concord> no
02:45 <Concord> i'm just now setting up a test wordpress run at 000webhost.com it says it has 100gb traffic, freehostia has 5gb, we'll see, I'm ftp
02:45 <Concord> ftp uploading wordpress now
02:45 <Concord> http://conkstestsite.net84.net/ nothing there yet
02:46 <epsy> hell, is that even php5 ?
02:46 <Concord> yeah
02:47 <epsy> or you're still uploading?
02:47 <Concord> I am still uploading ;)
02:47 <Concord> xP
02:47 <epsy> oh
02:47 <Concord> btw eps, did you see http://tronic-cup.co.cc/?
02:48 <epsy> no
02:48 <epsy> Loading!
02:48 <epsy> lol
02:48 <epsy> wait
02:48 <epsy> that's a splash screen? I hate splash screens
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02:50 <epsy> err, you you use padding instead of marging for the main block? it gets difficult to scroll
02:50 <ct|kyle> Concord: I don't like it, not very easy to navigate
02:51 <epsy> well right, now I can at least know when they will publish a linux version :)
02:51 <Concord> how? you just click a link there, idk I'm a noob :P
02:51 <epsy> 1/ splash screen
02:52 <epsy> 2/ broken scroll
02:52 <epsy> 3/ the menu is not persistent across the different pages
02:52 <Concord> idk why you don't like splash screens, they set the design theme, you feel like your entering a new building
02:52 <ct|kyle> valign="top" would also be nice, I missed the menu that low
02:52 <epsy> I thought it was an image there
02:53 <ct|kyle> epsy: menu is on all pages
02:53 <epsy> @g why splash screen sucks
02:53 <teabot> epsy: http://kenai.com/jira/browse/TWITTERFX-6 - [#TWITTERFX-6] Splash screen sucks - Kenai.com JIRA
02:53 <ct|kyle> below image is menu
02:53 <epsy> ct|kyle, but not at the same place
02:53 <ct|kyle> you outta put voodoo under a server Hacker too
02:53 <epsy> @g why splash screen sucks webdesign
02:53 <teabot> epsy: http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/does-my-web-site-suck/does-my-web-site-suck-checklist-part-one.html - Web Pages That Suck learn good web design by looking at bad web ...
02:53 <PinkTomato> epsy: is says " Improve the startup splash screen to be prettier / funkier." :D
02:53 <ct|kyle> he's done a lot more than me
02:54 <Concord> its more just about TRONIC involvement, but I guess his involvement in hacking our servers and ct+sty auto includes him
02:55 <Concord> so yeh i'll add him as Quiet Beast
02:55 <Concord> or smth
02:55 <epsy> Concord, and splash screen is in that checklist
02:55 <ct|kyle> heh
02:55 <epsy> splash screens can be good at some stuff, but not on websites
02:56 <ct|kyle> heck, someone could be playing the cup on their iphone
02:56 <epsy> and he could even get the source with it
02:57 <ct|kyle> epsy: I thought i gave you the source for it
02:57 <epsy> oh yeah, that funky place
02:57 <ct|kyle> https://code.launchpad.net/~aavoodoo/+junk/0.2.8-armagetronad-iphone
02:58 <PinkTomato> Oo
02:58 <PinkTomato> does that work?
02:59 <ct|kyle> https://code.launchpad.net/~aavoodoo/+junk/0.2.8-armagetronad-opengles
02:59 <ct|kyle> i mean that
02:59 <ct|kyle> and yes, but low FPS
02:59 <PinkTomato> how low?
02:59 * epsy still doesnt know why this isn't under the armagetronad project, as it's pretty much the only of his that would be relevant to it
02:59 <PinkTomato> won't I have to pay apple money to compile it though?
03:00 <epsy> probably
03:00 <epsy> you'd have to buy a mac, too
03:00 <PinkTomato> I would also have to pay apple for an iPhone.
03:00 <epsy> developers! developers! developers!
03:00 <PinkTomato> hehe :
03:00 <ct|kyle> 12 FPS
03:00 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: thats half playable!
03:00 <epsy> the only thing MS does right is gathering developers
03:01 <ct|kyle> 8 FPS
03:01 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: no wait.
03:01 <ct|kyle> http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1o4jTi
03:01 <PinkTomato> ah
03:01 <PinkTomato> needs a little work :)
03:01 <epsy> "Website Under Review"
03:01 <ct|kyle> ya
03:01 <epsy> Concord:
03:01 <epsy> well, that looks pretty much as good as my nexuiz
03:01 <Concord> hmm?
03:02 <epsy> [03:01] <epsy>: "Website Under Review"
03:02 <Concord> huh?
03:04 <epsy> that's what shows up when I visit it
03:04 <PinkTomato> http://conkstestsite.net84.net/ :)
03:04 <PinkTomato> it's not an instant access :)
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03:05 <epsy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us90r4MscX0&NR=1
03:05 <epsy> LOL
03:06 <Concord> heh
03:06 <epsy> lol I should try that
03:07 <epsy> so..TAG seeker arena on woodenspit :>
03:08 <Concord> yeah, the database isn't working well, cross that one off the list
03:09 <PinkTomato> Do good free host companies with SQL exist?
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03:12 <BabyBug> woooo i'm a genius! *dances*
03:12 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: ^^, what did you do?
03:13 <BabyBug> got join spectators to display only once..mwhahahaha =x *runs before she gets insulted*
03:14 <PinkTomato> hehe ^^, isn't that good?
03:15 <BabyBug> yes =D
03:15 <PinkTomato> how do you do it?
03:15 <BabyBug> someone was being a turd bucket when they wrote it!
03:15 <BabyBug> =x
03:15 <PinkTomato> xD
03:16 <PinkTomato> what line was it?
03:17 <BabyBug> there were two if thingies in gTeam.cpp when there should only be one \o/
03:17 <BabyBug> <--- Boooooored
03:17 <PinkTomato> its 2am!
03:17 <BabyBug> insomniaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
03:17 <BabyBug> =P
03:18 <PinkTomato> :(
03:22 <BabyBug> the actual join spectators menu item doesn't work though ><
03:22 <BabyBug> silly thing!
03:22 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
03:22 <PinkTomato> fix it BabyBug :D
03:22 <smoothice> Is there a working bzr branch of zones v2?
03:22 <BabyBug> i'm not that clever =x
03:23 <BabyBug> smoothice, lp:armagetronad?
03:23 <BabyBug> that has zones v2 enabled i think
03:23 <smoothice> trunk is zones v2?
03:23 <PinkTomato> un.
03:23 <PinkTomato> I mean yes :(
03:23 <Concord> yeh it does
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03:23 <PinkTomato> However
03:23 <Concord> i love the newest font btw
03:24 <PinkTomato> note that I couldn't get it to work :)
03:24 <smoothice> *sigh*
03:24 <smoothice> ok
03:24 <PinkTomato> Concord loads of fonts everywhere, what font in particular?
03:24 <Concord> the newest default font on 0.3.1 rather than the one on the older 0.3
03:25 <PinkTomato> smoothice probably me being silly, the person that was programming I think left when It was nearly done.
03:26 <PinkTomato> Concord: hehe, I didn't notice
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03:30 <PinkTomato> Concord any luck finding a good host?
03:31 <Concord> naht really,
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03:31 <PinkTomato> all free web hosts are silly
03:34 * BabyBug agrees!
03:35 <PinkTomato> I don't know how that free one offered cPanel Oo
03:35 <PinkTomato> or why It would need to
03:37 <epsy> true, it never worked, why is it even there?
03:37 <@armabot> armacommits: [smoothice] r729 merge from trunk
03:38 <epsy> and actually I could see something similar happening with the TAG seeker, not as awesome tho
03:38 <PinkTomato> epsy: what didn't work?
03:38 <PinkTomato> TAG seeker?
03:38 <epsy> "join spectators"
03:38 <PinkTomato> ah
03:38 <epsy> and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us90r4MscX0&NR=1
03:39 <PinkTomato> xD :D
03:39 <ct|kyle> smoothice: What version is your branch 0.3.* or 0.2.8.*
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03:42 <nsh22> hey
03:43 <ct|kyle> oi
03:43 <nsh22> theres a war between nw and ct tomorrow right?
03:43 <ct|kyle> nsh22: yes
03:44 <nsh22> what irc program do you use?
03:44 <ct|kyle> pidgin
03:45 <nsh22> free?
03:45 <ct|kyle> yes
03:45 <epsy> ugh
03:45 <ct|kyle> FOSS
03:46 <epsy> pidgin is supposed to be an IM client, it's terrible at IRC
03:46 <nsh22> whats a god one then
03:46 <nsh22> good*
03:47 <PinkTomato> it works well enough for me ^^
03:47 <ct|kyle> ya we get cool colored names :)
03:47 <epsy> silverex.something
03:47 <epsy> ct|kyle, I get colored names as well
03:48 <ct|kyle> i get all my protocols in 1
03:48 <epsy> I get a decent IRc client
03:48 <nsh22> . H . e . l . l . o . ct|kyle . H . e . l . l . o .
03:48 <nsh22> ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Hello epsy ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
03:48 <nsh22> x\xxxxxx\xxxxxxx\xxxx\x8 PinkTomato \xxxg
03:48 <nsh22> xx\xxxxxx*xxxxxxx*xxxx\* PinkTomato x\x...m
03:48 <nsh22> xxx*xSweetxxxxxDreamsx * PinkTomato x*xc
03:49 <epsy> pidgin still isn't very reliable for IM already
03:49 <nsh22> huh?
03:49 <PinkTomato> funky stuff like that is blocked here nsh22
03:49 <epsy> nsh22, spam?
03:49 <PinkTomato> :)
03:49 <nsh22> XD
03:49 <nsh22> im done
03:50 * nsh22 is tired, and has 100 different projects due on monday
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03:54 <epsy> bbl
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03:57 <BabyBug> fixed it PinkTomato \o/
03:57 <PinkTomato> \o/ :D
03:58 <ct|kyle> but BabyBug you arn't that smart
03:58 <PinkTomato> post a patch :)
03:58 <BabyBug> it was only replacing one line =x
03:58 <PinkTomato> xD
03:58 <BabyBug> I'm at least that smart!
03:58 <PinkTomato> :)
03:59 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
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03:59 * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle away
03:59 <BabyBug> NO!
03:59 <PinkTomato> night everyone :)
03:59 <BabyBug> night PinkTomato =)
03:59 <ct|kyle> night PinkTomato
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04:04 <BabyBug> how do you make a patch then =D
04:04 <ct|kyle> bzr diff
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04:04 <BabyBug> I've had far too much red bull =x
04:04 <ct|kyle> wait
04:05 <ct|kyle> bzr diff >> file.patch
04:05 <BabyBug> Oh, that was simple ^^
04:05 <ct|kyle> :P
04:05 <BabyBug> Now where do i put the patch!
04:06 <ct|kyle> make a bug and upload patch
04:06 <BabyBug> awww what, that's so much effort
04:06 <ct|kyle> or if bug is already created just upload in that bug
04:07 <ct|kyle> upload it some place and #m z-man bug fix <link>
04:11 <BabyBug> oki doke!
04:18 <BabyBug> /me etc doesn't work in local games either =(
04:18 <BabyBug> arma sucks!
04:18 <ct|kyle> lol
04:19 <ct|kyle> that's why you arn't going to play it much longer :P
04:19 <nsh22> your quitting?
04:20 <BabyBug> soon!
04:20 <ct|kyle> not me
04:20 <nsh22> y?
04:21 <ct|kyle> she does not like us anymore
04:21 <BabyBug> arma is just something to do while im bored...once i can work again i wont bother with it =P
04:22 <nsh22> why cant you work?
04:22 <ct|kyle> first 4 letters of her name
04:22 <BabyBug> got a 4 month year old daughter, child minders wont look after kids < 6 months
04:22 <nsh22> oh
04:22 * BabyBug slaps ct|kyle
04:22 <nsh22> lol
04:23 <ct|kyle> weill have to pay those child minders to raise that limit
04:23 <ct|kyle> :)
04:23 <nsh22> lol
04:24 <ct|kyle> LOL "4 month year old" -> "4 month old"
04:24 <nsh22> lmao
04:25 <BabyBug> Hrmm
04:25 <BabyBug> Blonde moment!
04:25 <BabyBug> i don't speak english first language so shush
04:25 <BabyBug> lmao
04:25 <ct|kyle> too much wings :P
04:25 <nsh22> oh
04:25 <nsh22> goddammit!
04:25 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I know, i was just pointing it out
04:25 <nsh22> i hate windows movie maker!!!!!!!
04:25 <BabyBug> sure sure
04:25 <nsh22> GRRRRR!!!!!!!
04:25 <BabyBug> you were making fun ='(
04:26 <ct|kyle> you could have stopped that sentence after windows
04:26 <nsh22> IT KEEPS CRASHING!!!!!!!!!
04:26 <nsh22> lol kyle
04:26 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: was not,
04:26 <nsh22> what do u have?
04:26 <ct|kyle> Gentoo
04:26 <nsh22> a what?
04:26 <ct|kyle> Gentoo linux
04:26 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, were too!!
04:26 <ct|kyle> #g gentoo
04:26 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
04:26 <ct|kyle> #google gentoo
04:26 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.12 seconds: Gentoo Linux -- Gentoo Linux News: <http://www.gentoo.org/>; Gentoo Linux -- Where to Get Gentoo Linux: <http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml>; Gentoo Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Linux>; gentoo .com: <http://www.gentoo.com/>; DistroWatch.com: Gentoo Linux: <http://distrowatch.com/gentoo>; Gentoo (1 more message)
04:26 <nsh22> how many f'ing linuxes are there?
04:27 <nsh22> how many f'ing linuxes are there?
04:27 <ct|kyle> #g number of linux distros
04:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
04:27 <ct|kyle> google FAIL
04:27 <BabyBug> ubuntu is the best!
04:28 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no i did not mean to, I thought it was funny, but i also know it is late and you don't nativly speak english
04:28 <ct|kyle> Gentoo > ubuntu
04:28 <ct|kyle> right luke-jr
04:28 <BabyBug> liar, you were making fun
04:28 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: fine i was (even it i was not) (now just give me some cuddles to make up)
04:28 <BabyBug> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+gentoo <-- Ubuntu wins by miles...gentoo has even lost popularity!
04:29 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i'm just winding you up ^^ =P
04:29 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I know
04:29 <nsh22> wtf is the difference between gentoo and ubuntu
04:29 <ct|kyle> Few finally found the code i want to fork
04:29 <BabyBug> nsh22, quite alot =P
04:30 <BabyBug> for one, gentoo sucks!
04:30 <BabyBug> =D
04:30 <ct|kyle> nsh22: Mine comes with a terminal and compiles everything exactly to what i want, ubuntu just comes as an archive and installs archives
04:31 <nsh22> 0.o
04:31 <nsh22> why choose linux ofver anything else(other than its free)
04:31 <BabyBug> ubuntu is easy to use..gentoo not so easy until you learn to use it......
04:31 <ct|kyle> ubunto is the I want to get the fuck away from windows Distro
04:31 <ct|kyle> gentoo is the I really want to learn how linux works distro
04:32 <BabyBug> gentoo is the geek distro!
04:32 * ct|kyle is a geek
04:32 <nsh22> lol
04:32 * nsh22 is a nerd, does that matter?
04:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: if you had used nerd i would have had to kill you
04:32 <nsh22> whats the differnece
04:32 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you want to cuddle me too much to kill me
04:33 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you go me wounded up
04:33 <nsh22> contrary, h e wants to cuddle you to death
04:33 * ct|kyle kisses BabyBug
04:33 * BabyBug rips of ct|kyle's lips
04:34 <BabyBug> off*
04:34 <ct|kyle> and BabyBugthat was only if you said nerd
04:34 <nsh22> lol
04:34 <BabyBug> no kisses for you!
04:34 <nsh22> violent much
04:34 <BabyBug> nsh22, he knows i'm taken :@
04:34 <nsh22> lol
04:34 <nsh22> how many times has that stopped ppl?
04:34 <nsh22> lol
04:34 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Like i said, she is not here you can cheat :)
04:34 <BabyBug> ... ><
04:35 <ct|kyle> I won't tell if you don't
04:35 <BabyBug> she's in my heart..so she's here xD
04:35 <ct|kyle> o0
04:35 <BabyBug> lmao
04:35 <nsh22> baby bug, r u m/f?
04:35 <BabyBug> take a guess
04:35 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, don't tell him
04:35 <nsh22> m?
04:36 <BabyBug> you're a whore
04:36 <nsh22> lol
04:36 <BabyBug> f..........
04:36 <nsh22> how so?
04:36 <BabyBug> i'm female, not male =P
04:36 <nsh22> :P
04:36 <BabyBug> gawd! no one ever guesses right ><
04:36 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I did
04:36 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, no you never
04:36 <ct|kyle> i think anyway LOL
04:37 <nsh22> well, ur her stalker so...
04:37 <ct|kyle> actually i think i waited till i found out :) i never had to guess
04:37 <BabyBug> aye you cheated
04:38 <ct|kyle> ya so why can't you now :)
04:38 <BabyBug> cause i'm not like you
04:38 * BabyBug dusts off her halo
04:38 <nsh22> notice how it hasnt been used?
04:38 <nsh22> lol
04:39 <BabyBug> =.='
04:39 <ct|kyle> ya BabyBug, I'm not evil like you and your girl (lizmatic)
04:39 <BabyBug> we're not evil ><
04:40 <nsh22> ?? now im confused
04:40 <BabyBug> lol nsh22 bless =P
04:40 <ct|kyle> nsh22: It is hard to keep up with our talks
04:41 <nsh22> wtf does lizmatic come into this0.o
04:41 <nsh22> and lizmatic is a girl too 0.o
04:41 <nsh22> ?
04:41 <nsh22> arrrg...
04:41 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: arn't we still cuddling from when we got that rope tied around us, I did not think it go cut
04:42 <nsh22> AHHHHHHHH
04:42 * nsh22 runs
04:42 <nsh22> total confusion acheived, ty
04:42 <BabyBug> my hatred for you burnt the rope xD
04:42 <BabyBug> nsh22, yes lizmatic is a girl =P
04:42 <ct|kyle> ah :(
04:42 <BabyBug> What are you confused about =P
04:42 <ct|kyle> :'(
04:42 <nsh22> relationship between u and lizmatic?
04:42 * BabyBug points and laughs at ct|kyle
04:43 <ct|kyle> they are lesbians
04:43 <ct|kyle> :D
04:43 <BabyBug> ....
04:43 <nsh22> 0.o?
04:43 <ct|kyle> or was that lizmatic that had a sex change
04:43 <BabyBug> lol ct|kyle now you're just trying to confuse him xD
04:44 <nsh22> lol
04:44 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no I was done trying that before he got confused
04:44 <nsh22> ffs i cant evn explain wtf is goin on in my mind
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04:44 <nsh22> i want to ask questions, but may insult .....
04:44 <nsh22> gudahjtyedflasiyfdufq3ldyfutf
04:45 <BabyBug> nsh22, You can insult me over IRC so ask away \o/
04:45 <nsh22> lol was he seriuos?bout u and lizmatic?
04:45 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: so we still have to put up with you for 2 more months
04:45 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i'll always be on IRC most prob..just wont play arma anymore
04:45 <ct|kyle> nsh22: they do it through the net
04:46 <BabyBug> lol
04:46 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: dam :( :P
04:46 <nsh22> zomgbbq
04:46 * nsh22 bangs head off of desk
04:46 <nsh22> i g2g
04:46 * nsh22 runs away, very far away
04:46 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1279548933.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
04:46 <ct|kyle> LOL
04:46 <BabyBug> awww he left
04:46 <BabyBug> haha
04:47 <ct|kyle> bash time
04:47 <BabyBug> i was just about to bring out the pictures too!
04:47 * ct|kyle wonders how old he is
04:48 <BabyBug> Who is he? lol
04:48 <ct|kyle> I donno, someone on the team CT is playing tomorrow
04:48 <ct|kyle> now i can just bring up babybug and he'll be too distracted to play
04:49 <BabyBug> lol
04:53 <luke-jr> ]later tell PinkTomato uh, you're wrong :þ 7000 < 9250
04:54 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: Debian > Ubuntu
04:54 <BabyBug> luke-jr, your bot isn't here =P
04:55 <luke-jr> why not -.-
04:55 <BabyBug> *shrugs* it's your bot
04:55 <BabyBug> lol
04:55 <luke-jr> hm
04:55 <ct|kyle> guru3 was taking out bots
04:55 <luke-jr> #later tell PinkTomato uh, you're wrong :þ 7000 < 9250
04:56 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
04:56 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, really?
04:57 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: yes, 1 reason why tronner is not here and ivantis's bots
04:57 <BabyBug> #kick ivantis3 let's remove ivantis' bot then =D
04:57 -!- ivantis3 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "let's remove ivantis' bot then =D"]
04:57 <luke-jr> I thought ljrbot was kept
04:57 <BabyBug> \o/
04:58 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I donno, i don't think it was here when he was doing that stuff
04:58 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: but it was ivantis4
04:58 <BabyBug> ivantis3 is the one called LoggerBot...
04:59 <ct|kyle> oh that's his "chat logger"
04:59 <BabyBug> -ivantis4- VERSION X-Chat Aqua 0.16.0
04:59 <BabyBug> That;s just a client :P
05:00 <BabyBug> luke-jr, can't you tell if ljrbot was kicked or whether it just disconnected....
05:00 <BabyBug> 12:31 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31] has quit [Connection timed out]
05:01 <BabyBug> luke-jr =P
05:01 * BabyBug is off too see if water cancels out red bull
05:01 <ct|kyle> lol
05:03 <BabyBug> mmmmmmmm when for a chocolate milkshake instead
05:03 <BabyBug> im so gonna be sick =x
05:04 <ivantis4> huh?
05:04 <ct|kyle> ivantis4: ?? nothing happened
05:04 <ct|kyle> go back to bed
05:05 * ct|kyle woners is say ivantis4 triggers ivantis4's alarm clock
05:05 <ct|kyle> if saying*
05:07 * BabyBug goes to cuddle ct|kyle and then runs away just before he's able to grab her..mwhahahaha
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05:08 <ivantis4> BabyBug... qutting... arma??? not irc too i hope
05:08 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: how mean, you could have at least done that to scare that one guy more
05:08 <BabyBug> lol ct|kyle
05:09 <BabyBug> no ivantis4, my immaturity will always be here to annoy you hunni!
05:09 <ct|kyle> ivantis4: read your logs it is all in there
05:09 <ivantis4> oh good. if you left irc it would be too boring
05:10 <BabyBug> indeed!
05:10 <BabyBug> It'd be all complicated talk!
05:10 <BabyBug> a channel neeeeeeeds baby talk :D
05:10 <ct|kyle> no bug talk
05:10 <ct|kyle> :P
05:10 <BabyBug> AND bug talk! =P
05:11 <ct|kyle> we wouldent be able to scare people away w/o BabyBug :)
05:11 <BabyBug> ^^
05:12 <BabyBug> find out how old he is
05:12 <BabyBug> lol
05:12 <ct|kyle> o0
05:12 <ct|kyle> 14?
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05:12 <BabyBug> *shrugs*
05:13 <BabyBug> If he is that means he'd be too young to scare off with pictures =(
05:14 <ct|kyle> i think i figured out why ivantis needs a logger, I think so that he can google all the crazy talk and make 1/2 sense out of it
05:15 <BabyBug> haha
05:15 <BabyBug> ivantis4, do you have ivantis in your highlights?
05:15 <ivantis4> no
05:15 <BabyBug> add it!
05:19 <ct|kyle> let see if this compiles
05:19 <BabyBug> what's 'this'?
05:20 <BabyBug> sty thingy?
05:20 <ct|kyle> a little hack that i don't think will work
05:20 <BabyBug> ohs
05:20 <ct|kyle> ya make is so player can only have 1 flag
05:20 <BabyBug> ohs
05:20 <BabyBug> that made no sense
05:21 <ct|kyle> i would have thought the error would tell me more
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05:26 <BabyBug> nickymook!
05:27 <noob_saibot> baby bug im here just for you
05:28 <ct|kyle> noob_saibot: me and BabyBug scared someone away :)
05:29 <noob_saibot> who
05:29 <noob_saibot> you sent them pics?
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05:30 <ct|kyle> nope did not even have to get to that
05:30 <noob_saibot> who kicked me
05:30 <noob_saibot> haha
05:30 <ct|kyle> quit: Client Quit
05:32 <noob_saibot> hey who wants to see a sexy boy
05:32 <noob_saibot> www.myspace.com/official_nicholasblock
05:33 * BabyBug can't see a sexy boi =P
05:33 <ct|kyle> only sees a n00b
05:33 <ct|kyle> :P
05:33 <noob_saibot> hahaha
05:34 <noob_saibot> hey i tried
05:34 <ct|kyle> but Failed
05:35 <ct|kyle> can i get someone ( BabyBug / noob_saibot) to help me test
05:36 <BabyBug> sure?
05:36 <ct|kyle> let me get it compile
05:36 <noob_saibot> what u need
05:36 <ct|kyle> just to see if my code works
05:37 <noob_saibot> iiiiiite
05:38 <ivantis4> eww, myspace?
05:38 <ivantis4> gross
05:38 <ct|kyle> #si -v Crazy Tronners Regular CTF
05:38 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Regular CTF (78.46.226.237:4540) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090111 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com/, Description: “Crazy-Tronners CTF server. Located in Germany. Ask on our forums for any information.“, Players (0/10):
05:39 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, is that code for "come quickly"?
05:39 <noob_saibot> stop beating off to my pics ivantis
05:39 * BabyBug is beating everyone in no rubber \o/
05:39 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ya
05:40 * luke-jr wishes someone would run a no-rubber on his server
05:40 <BabyBug> luke-jr, why don't you run one?
05:40 <ct|kyle> lol BabyBug i was just going to say
05:40 <BabyBug> and bring ljrbot back! (i have no reason why)
05:41 <noob_saibot> o.O
05:41 <BabyBug> ct|kyle....... lol
05:41 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: noob_saibot:)
05:41 <noob_saibot> u kicked me out!
05:41 <BabyBug> fail!
05:41 <ct|kyle> well i did not think it would work
05:41 <noob_saibot> Nickymook did nothign wrong!
05:42 <BabyBug> i left a perfectly good no rubber game for that!
05:42 <noob_saibot> haha
05:44 <ct|kyle> oh I know hhe
05:44 <ct|kyle> I think anyway
05:45 <BabyBug> so ya gonna drag us out of the server again? zeesh
05:45 <noob_saibot> :-D
05:45 <noob_saibot> again???????????????!?
05:46 <ct|kyle> in a few minutes
05:47 <noob_saibot> kk no prob
05:49 <ct|kyle> noob_saibot, BabyBug ok
05:52 <BabyBug> lol ct|kyle
05:52 <BabyBug> crashed agan
05:52 <noob_saibot> !
05:52 <BabyBug> again?
05:52 <ct|kyle> and then that
05:52 <BabyBug> :P
05:52 <noob_saibot> haha
05:52 <BabyBug> WoooooooOOooooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOoooooooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOO
05:52 <BabyBug> \o/
05:53 <BabyBug> *dances*
05:53 <ct|kyle> i more try
05:53 <BabyBug> hey wait..
05:53 <BabyBug> arma broke gnome-settings-daemon =x
05:53 <noob_saibot> what!
05:54 * noob_saibot doesnt know what your talking about
05:54 <BabyBug> (it didn't really)
05:54 <BabyBug> it just closed when arma closed
05:54 <BabyBug> lol
05:54 <BabyBug> lol
05:54 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, you shaven, waxed or hairy? =P
05:54 <ct|kyle> ready
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05:55 -!- ivantis4 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit ["bedtime"]
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05:55 <noob_saibot> haha
05:55 <BabyBug> x crashed =x
05:55 <noob_saibot> shaven where?
05:55 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, you answer the question? :P
05:56 <noob_saibot> i have facial hair now :P
05:56 <BabyBug> well you're not gonna wax your face hunni....so where do you think i meant :P
05:56 <noob_saibot> hahaha
05:56 <noob_saibot> thats what the clippers are for :)
05:57 <BabyBug> hrmm..so what's the answer? :P
05:57 <noob_saibot> i answered boo
05:57 <BabyBug> ><
05:57 <noob_saibot> thats what the clippers are for
05:57 <noob_saibot> but in general im not a hairy dude
05:58 <noob_saibot> i dont shave my chest or nothin....the hair there doesnt grow in thick :D
05:58 <BabyBug> and ya pubes? :P
05:58 <ct|kyle> crash
05:58 <noob_saibot> LOL
05:58 <BabyBug> =(
05:58 <noob_saibot> they are tamed
05:58 <noob_saibot> this way noone gets anything stuck in their teeth
05:59 <BabyBug> tamed....so...not all completely shaved then? :P
05:59 <noob_saibot> depends on my mood babydoll
06:00 <BabyBug> well there's a bad point right there then =P
06:00 <noob_saibot> sometimes i like to rep a bald eagle
06:00 <noob_saibot> sometimes i like to leave a little roughage
06:00 <noob_saibot> how about yourself?
06:00 <ct|kyle> heh. i think i found it maybe
06:00 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, i never said you could ask questions :o
06:01 <noob_saibot> i ask when i wanna
06:01 <BabyBug> you have the funniest nose i've ever seen though..lmao
06:01 <noob_saibot> im an open boy i answered urs
06:01 <noob_saibot> oh please
06:02 <noob_saibot> whats wrong with my nose?
06:02 <noob_saibot> you can only see one picture anyway
06:02 <noob_saibot> unless u secretly have myspace and are lookin at others
06:02 <BabyBug> I can imagine that nose on an evil cartoon character! lol
06:02 <noob_saibot> k
06:03 <noob_saibot> :-0
06:03 <noob_saibot> >:-O
06:03 * BabyBug is honest!
06:03 <noob_saibot> whats ur msn
06:03 <noob_saibot> give it to me
06:03 <BabyBug> Newp ^^
06:03 <noob_saibot> what
06:04 <BabyBug> mwahaha
06:04 <noob_saibot> dont be so stand offish with me
06:04 <BabyBug> xD
06:04 <noob_saibot> youll regret not knowing what you coulda had
06:05 <noob_saibot> your thinking now huh
06:05 <noob_saibot> just give it up
06:05 <BabyBug> i get the best there is hunni ;)
06:05 <noob_saibot> well ur missing out on the best one
06:05 <noob_saibot> /me
06:05 <noob_saibot> woops!
06:06 <BabyBug> girls are better than guys...so no i'm not missing out on the best one =P
06:06 <noob_saibot> thats another thing about me
06:06 <noob_saibot> i am ok with my girls having girls on the side
06:06 <noob_saibot> its totally cool with me
06:06 <noob_saibot> in fact im all for it
06:07 <noob_saibot> your thinking again
06:07 <BabyBug> Really? explain that to me...The bf thinks the same...but i don't want to ask why incase he changes his mind xD
06:07 <noob_saibot> haha
06:07 <BabyBug> how can you be fine with that? =P
06:07 <noob_saibot> why not
06:07 <noob_saibot> its all fun and games
06:08 <BabyBug> Do you not believe the girl could end up falling in love with another girl and leaving ya? =P
06:08 <noob_saibot> :P
06:08 <noob_saibot> shit happens
06:08 <BabyBug> lol ><
06:08 <BabyBug> You're useless =P
06:08 <noob_saibot> no way
06:08 <noob_saibot> useful*
06:09 <BabyBug> less*
06:09 <noob_saibot> :-(
06:09 <BabyBug> i ask one question and the answer is "why not"...very useful!!
06:09 <BabyBug> =.='
06:09 <noob_saibot> well
06:09 <noob_saibot> what i learned in my lifetime
06:10 <noob_saibot> is that i am too young to be caught up in one person
06:10 <BabyBug> ok now you sound 60...
06:10 <noob_saibot> haha
06:10 <noob_saibot> so i like to keep a loose leash on them
06:10 <noob_saibot> which is great who wants an overprotective jealous man
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06:10 <noob_saibot> or girl
06:11 <BabyBug> you're never too young though =P
06:11 <BabyBug> I'm only 18 but i'll probably end up marrying the bf i have now =P
06:12 <noob_saibot> nah i once had a lover back in my day........nothing but heartaches
06:12 <noob_saibot> i thought i was gona marry her too and look at me now :P
06:12 <noob_saibot> im happy as can be
06:12 <BabyBug> lol
06:12 <noob_saibot> well she thought she was gona marry me
06:12 <noob_saibot> i almost thought so
06:13 <BabyBug> why'd you split up? =P
06:13 <noob_saibot> it was a soup opera
06:14 <BabyBug> a soup opera?
06:14 <noob_saibot> talk to me behind closed doors and you can hear my stories
06:14 <noob_saibot> yea
06:14 <noob_saibot> big time drama
06:14 <noob_saibot> like a movie lol
06:14 <BabyBug> do you mean soap? lol
06:14 <noob_saibot> LOL
06:14 <noob_saibot> woops
06:14 <BabyBug> lmao xD
06:14 <noob_saibot> i have no excuse for that
06:14 <noob_saibot> u is not even close to a on the keyboard
06:14 <noob_saibot> LOL
06:14 <BabyBug> haha
06:15 <noob_saibot> i dont know half the ppl in here they might be reading and stuff
06:15 <noob_saibot> i already told them about my pubes for crying out loud
06:15 <BabyBug> haha
06:15 <BabyBug> you don't know me either though xD
06:15 <noob_saibot> well i know you more then half them...some i dont know at all
06:16 <BabyBug> ^^
06:16 <noob_saibot> you used to ask me to cuddle all the time
06:16 <noob_saibot> well you asked Nickymook
06:16 <BabyBug> Lucifer is a great guy to talk too! He'd love ya pubes!
06:16 <noob_saibot> Lol
06:16 <noob_saibot> well i got none for him currently
06:16 <noob_saibot> try again in a week or 2
06:19 <Lucifer> CHEATING is CHEATING
06:19 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer
06:19 <BabyBug> no one's cheating here!
06:19 <noob_saibot> cheaters never win my friend!
06:19 * noob_saibot puts his pants back on
06:20 <Lucifer> if a girl tells me she's not going to fool around with anybody else, and she goes and fools around with another girl, she cheated
06:20 <noob_saibot> haha
06:20 <noob_saibot> stop bitchin
06:20 <Lucifer> heh
06:20 <noob_saibot> u shud be happy!
06:20 <noob_saibot> and try to get in on that too
06:20 <Lucifer> about what?
06:20 <Lucifer> ahhhh, see, you're only thinking about sex
06:20 <BabyBug> Lucifer, if the guy and the girl is happy about the girl sleeping with another girl...It's not cheating!
06:20 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I won't argue that, because I agree with it
06:21 <Lucifer> but see, I said "if a girl tells me she's not going to fool...etc"
06:21 <BabyBug> aye i agree with that too =D
06:21 <Lucifer> otoh, if a girl tells me she wants to fool around with other people, that's not monogamy, and I'm not interested
06:21 <Lucifer> nothing against the girl, it's her life
06:22 <BabyBug> i'll always want to fool around with other girls...but if the guy didn't want it then i wouldn't...
06:22 <BabyBug> what's monogamy btw?
06:22 <Lucifer> if we were together, monogamy means you'd only sleep with me
06:23 <BabyBug> ah =)
06:23 <Lucifer> I'm a one-woman guy, and I expect the same in return
06:23 <Lucifer> that's about the only thing I'm not willing to negotiate, I think
06:23 <noob_saibot> see im a little more down with the other
06:23 <noob_saibot> baby you can go with girls and still be with me :P i aint mad atcha
06:23 <BabyBug> So you'd never be up for a threesome?
06:24 <Lucifer> hmmm, not with someone I was serious about
06:24 <Lucifer> and therefore, obviously, not if I was with someone I was serious about ;)
06:24 <BabyBug> lol
06:24 <Lucifer> so right now, hell yeah, I've got no chains to hold me down!
06:25 <noob_saibot> haha
06:25 <BabyBug> would that me a m/f/f threesome or an m/m/f threesome? =P
06:25 <BabyBug> or wouldn't you mind?
06:25 <Lucifer> depends too much on the personalities involved
06:25 <noob_saibot> LOL
06:25 <Lucifer> so I'd be open to either, but I don't think any random combination of three people will work for me
06:26 <noob_saibot> LOL
06:26 <BabyBug> i could never have a threesome with two guys...don't like the idea of two guys doing it =x
06:26 <noob_saibot> Lolz
06:26 <Lucifer> not even if they didn't do it and just focused on you?
06:26 <noob_saibot> LOL
06:27 <noob_saibot> tthats the point!
06:27 <noob_saibot> focus on her
06:27 <BabyBug> mmm..dunno..i'd probably have to be drunk to do so..
06:27 * noob_saibot gets a bottle of Jack
06:28 <BabyBug> anywhoo!!...nice to see your keeping the channel clean lucifer!
06:28 <Lucifer> I don't see any arguing going on...
06:29 <BabyBug> lol you know what i mean
06:30 <Lucifer> here's a question for you
06:30 <BabyBug> ok..
06:30 <Lucifer> let's say there's a girl talking to a guy on the internet
06:31 <Lucifer> she says she's 18, and he asks for nudy pics, and she sends them
06:31 <Lucifer> then the FBI come and take him away, because she was an undercover agent and was only 15
06:31 <noob_saibot> Lol
06:31 <noob_saibot> you making me scared
06:31 <Lucifer> should the guy be convicted?
06:31 <Lucifer> this actually happened a few years ago
06:31 <BabyBug> No
06:31 <BabyBug> lol
06:31 <Lucifer> not to me!
06:31 <ct|kyle> No
06:31 <BabyBug> how can he be convicted for that
06:31 <noob_saibot> i am not talking to girls on tron anymore
06:32 <Lucifer> haha
06:32 <noob_saibot> Lucifer where u from
06:32 <Lucifer> texas
06:32 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
06:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 18.3°F (12:32 AM EST on January 11, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020.2 hPa (Rising).
06:32 <noob_saibot> oh cool
06:32 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
06:32 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 41.7°F (11:30 PM CST on January 10, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028.3 hPa (Rising).
06:33 <noob_saibot> #weather 11783
06:33 <@armabot> noob_saibot: The current temperature in Bellmore,Southshore of Long Island, Bellmore, New York is 30.6°F (12:32 AM EST on January 11, 2009). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 10 am EST this morning...
06:33 <noob_saibot> wrong town
06:33 <Lucifer> who let the damn yankee in here?
06:33 <BabyBug> Did the guy actually get convicted Lucifer?
06:33 <noob_saibot> stupid bot
06:33 <Lucifer> BabyBug: afaik
06:33 <noob_saibot> Lolz
06:33 <Lucifer> because the facts were that he asked a 15yo for nudy pics
06:34 <BabyBug> Well he if you have sex with a 15 year old, but she/he says they were 16...you can't be convicted
06:34 <BabyBug> I would of thought it's the same principle
06:34 <BabyBug> well here*
06:34 <Lucifer> problem is, it's too easy to lie and say "she told me she was 16"
06:34 <noob_saibot> 18*
06:35 <BabyBug> Lucifer, well usually the girl says it two.. lol
06:35 <Lucifer> heh, it's actually 17 here, iirc
06:35 <BabyBug> too*
06:35 <noob_saibot> damn lucky!
06:35 <noob_saibot> 18 here :(
06:35 <Lucifer> if she says it too, you might get off
06:35 <BabyBug> 16 here noob_saibot =P
06:35 <Lucifer> judges don't have to follow the laws :/
06:35 <noob_saibot> haha
06:35 <noob_saibot> i'm moving to Whales
06:35 <BabyBug> Wales*
06:35 <noob_saibot> what kinda Whale
06:35 <Lucifer> well it doesn't matter to me, I don't think it's possible for a girl that young to convince me she's 24 or older
06:35 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer
06:36 <BabyBug> Could i convince you i'm 24 or older? =D
06:36 <noob_saibot> how old are you Lucifer
06:36 <Lucifer> not here, heh
06:36 <Lucifer> old enough to have seen Tron in the movie theater?
06:36 <BabyBug> xD
06:36 <noob_saibot> haha nice
06:36 <noob_saibot> thats whatsup
06:36 <BabyBug> he's almost as old as you look saibot!
06:36 <noob_saibot> hey! im not that old!
06:36 <BabyBug> you look ittttttttttttttt
06:36 <BabyBug> xD
06:37 <noob_saibot> im 23 ffs
06:37 <noob_saibot> i dont have grey hairs
06:37 <Lucifer> I just added a decade to my appearance by letting my goatee grow back
06:37 <noob_saibot> and that pic is like 3 years old LOl
06:37 <Lucifer> it's all shot with white :)
06:37 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer shave it!
06:37 <noob_saibot> i have a goat now too
06:37 <noob_saibot> im shaving mine and just leave my stache
06:37 <Lucifer> noob_saibot: yeah, I hear you yankees *love* goats
06:37 <noob_saibot> 8-)
06:37 <noob_saibot> haha
06:37 <noob_saibot> go Mets
06:38 <BabyBug> hey what about you Lucifer? Do you shave/wax your pubes? =P
06:38 <noob_saibot> hahaha
06:38 <Lucifer> no
06:38 <noob_saibot> baby you never answered me do you
06:38 <Lucifer> it has to be kept up too much or else it hurts
06:38 <BabyBug> You trim them?
06:38 <Lucifer> not really, no
06:38 <Lucifer> I let them grow, I've got a pube that's 4 feet long now
06:38 <Lucifer> it's been growing since I was 9
06:38 <noob_saibot> LOL!
06:38 <BabyBug> ......
06:39 <Lucifer> I use it to floss my teeth
06:39 <noob_saibot> haha
06:39 <BabyBug> lmao
06:39 <noob_saibot> well your dentist should be proud
06:39 <noob_saibot> flossing is very important in good dental hygiene
06:40 <Lucifer> so, is belly hair good or bad?
06:40 <BabyBug> bad
06:40 <BabyBug> very bad
06:40 <BabyBug> you should wax that
06:40 <noob_saibot> lolz
06:40 <Lucifer> no waxing, that's far more effort than I'm willing to put in just for appearance
06:41 <Lucifer> the ideal woman in my bed isn't worried about my appearance either, she's worried about where my hands are
06:41 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no effort, go down to a beauty parlour and just lie there
06:41 <BabyBug> they'll do it for ya :P
06:43 <BabyBug> Oh Lucifer, on a cleaner note...The join spectator menu item in 0.3.1 doesn't work......
06:43 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you fixed it ti thought
06:43 <BabyBug> i have \o/
06:43 <ct|kyle> pastebin the patch :P
06:46 <BabyBug> he's gone again now ='(
06:47 <ct|kyle> there is #m
06:48 <BabyBug> i don't trust that...
06:48 <ct|kyle> it works
06:48 <BabyBug> liar
06:48 <BabyBug> #m ct|kyle liar!
06:48 <@armabot> BabyBug: The operation succeeded.
06:48 <ct|kyle> #m BabyBug See it works
06:48 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The operation succeeded.
06:48 <BabyBug> ?
06:48 <ct|kyle> :P
06:49 <BabyBug> i still don't trust it xD
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06:50 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you never answered! shaven/waxed/hairy? :P
06:50 <ct|kyle> all
06:50 <BabyBug> .......
06:51 <BabyBug> you're the boring one of the bunch
06:51 <noob_saibot> lolz
06:51 <ct|kyle> no I should have given up on this code hours ago
06:52 <ct|kyle> now i have it, not crashing, but not picking up flags
06:52 <BabyBug> i don't see what's so hard about it!
06:52 <ct|kyle> neither do I lol
06:53 <BabyBug> if (player->HasFlag()) { // do nothing when it hits a flag }
06:53 <BabyBug> job done!
06:53 <ct|kyle> not that var
06:53 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i made that up
06:53 <BabyBug> lol
06:53 <ct|kyle> i thought about making it
06:54 <noob_saibot> is that C++
06:54 <noob_saibot> or C
06:54 <BabyBug> wouldn't that be the easiest option?
06:54 <ct|kyle> ya
06:54 <ct|kyle> ya
06:54 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, i have no idea
06:54 <ct|kyle> C++
06:54 <BabyBug> oh =)
06:54 <BabyBug> <--- knows 0 c++
06:55 <Lucifer> <---- too
06:55 <BabyBug> liar
06:55 <BabyBug> Hey Lucifer!
06:55 <Lucifer> heh
06:55 <Lucifer> going to bed now!
06:55 <BabyBug> nuuuuuuuu
06:55 <ct|kyle> LOL
06:55 <BabyBug> wait!
06:55 * noob_saibot can't program
06:55 <noob_saibot> i am tired too
06:55 <Lucifer> ok, fine, make it quick
06:55 <Lucifer> I'm cold and want to get in the shower
06:55 <noob_saibot> my bed is calling my name
06:55 <Lucifer> noob_saibot: mine too
06:56 <BabyBug> Lucifer --> apply http://87.115.66.184/spectator.patch
06:56 <BabyBug> !!
06:56 <Lucifer> your bed is calling my name too
06:56 <Lucifer> BabyBug: can you #m that to me so I'll see it in the morning?
06:56 <noob_saibot> haha
06:56 <ct|kyle> LOL
06:56 * Lucifer reads his backbuffer
06:56 <Lucifer> 'night
06:56 <noob_saibot> sleep well lucifer
06:56 * BabyBug goes to cry in a corner
06:57 <noob_saibot> baby dont cry, ya gotta keep your head up even when the road is hard never give up -2pac
06:57 <BabyBug> you like 2pac? there's another bad point
06:57 <noob_saibot> whats wrong with pac
06:58 <noob_saibot> bad point?
06:58 <BabyBug> yes
06:58 <noob_saibot> i wasnt making a point
06:58 <BabyBug> bad point about you*
06:58 <noob_saibot> :(
06:58 <BabyBug> you asked what's wrong with you earlier on arma...So i'm going to point everything out that's bad from now on =P
06:58 <noob_saibot> haha
06:58 <noob_saibot> ok my nose, 2pac
06:58 <noob_saibot> what else
06:59 <BabyBug> you don't wax ya pubes
06:59 <ct|kyle> LOL i found my error i think
06:59 * ct|kyle is an idot
06:59 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you're an eejit!
06:59 <noob_saibot> haha
06:59 <noob_saibot> enough pube talk
06:59 <noob_saibot> i dont want anyone getting arrested
06:59 <BabyBug> you asked!
07:00 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: something like that
07:00 <noob_saibot> no you did
07:00 <BabyBug> <noob_saibot> what else
07:00 <BabyBug> you did
07:00 <noob_saibot> lol
07:00 <noob_saibot> brb brush my teeth
07:05 <noob_saibot> so fresh and so clean
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07:11 <noob_saibot> this chat died out
07:13 <Paralyzed> hey guys
07:13 <BabyBug> helloooooooo
07:14 <noob_saibot> helloooooo
07:14 <BabyBug> and no i haven't added you saibot ^^
07:15 <noob_saibot> whatever
07:15 <noob_saibot> im over that ishh
07:15 <noob_saibot> ;P
07:15 <BabyBug> lol
07:16 <noob_saibot> i dont even know why i use msn
07:16 <noob_saibot> i have like 6 ppl on it
07:16 <Paralyzed> .si dodgeball
07:16 <BabyBug> i've only had it for a few days =x
07:16 <Paralyzed> .si DARKSIDE `DodgeBall'
07:16 <Paralyzed> hmm
07:17 <BabyBug> Paralyzed, use # not .
07:17 <noob_saibot> had msn for a few days
07:17 <noob_saibot> whats wrong with u
07:17 <BabyBug> i only spoke to 3 people...so i just added them onto the bf's account and used his :P
07:17 <noob_saibot> lol
07:18 <noob_saibot> alrighty then
07:18 <BabyBug> i prefer txts =P
07:18 <noob_saibot> mmmmm same
07:18 <noob_saibot> im a text master
07:19 <Paralyzed> #si DARKSIDE `DodgeBall'
07:19 <@armabot> Paralyzed: DarkSide `DodgeBall': Players (0/16):
07:19 <BabyBug> =)
07:19 <Paralyzed> thanks alot
07:19 <Paralyzed> xD
07:19 <Paralyzed> i had to demolish comp
07:19 <BabyBug> yw hunni ^^
07:19 <Paralyzed> lost resource pass
07:19 <Paralyzed> and again
07:20 <Paralyzed> maybe if i finally make an upload page for resource for luke he wont be too mad to reset it
07:20 <BabyBug> perhaps he should give other people the ability to reset it xD
07:21 <noob_saibot> yea perhaps haha yea
07:22 <Paralyzed> is there any other map editor programs i can get better then armabell ona windows?
07:22 <BabyBug> notepad \o/
07:23 <Paralyzed> nothing else?
07:23 <BabyBug> i've no idea sorry, don't make maps or use windows =x
07:23 <BabyBug> wiki probably lists all available map editors
07:24 <BabyBug> #aawiki map editor
07:24 <noob_saibot> what movie should i watch
07:24 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.01 seconds: Map Making - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map_Making>; User:Lucifer - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=User:Lucifer>; Making Maps Switch Randomly - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Making_Maps_Switch_Randomly>; Making Maps by Hand - Armagetron (2 more messages)
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07:25 <BabyBug> first one \o/
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07:25 <ct|kyle> #night
07:25 <@armabot> Good night ct|kyle!
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07:31 <Paralyzed> ive been there
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07:31 <Paralyzed> links were broken
07:32 <Paralyzed> and one didnt have help for window
07:32 <Paralyzed> #si Adventures Of Tron
07:32 <@armabot> Paralyzed: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (0/3):
07:34 <noob_saibot> :)
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09:24 <hang3r> Windows7 is looking surprisingly impressive (this coming for a linux zealot).
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09:27 <ivantis2> happy happy :)
09:28 <ivantis2> my first Android app works :)
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10:04 <Paralyzed> anyone out there
10:38 <hang3r> Hi
10:40 <Paralyzed> hi
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10:53 <hang3r> :(
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12:59 <siodjdsf> zmanual, does armagetron work in 64bit?
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13:33 <i2020> breep
13:42 <madmax> hello
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14:08 <i2020> hey madmax , how's life?
14:17 <madmax> same thing, different univ. year :-)
14:19 <madmax> you? still in malta?
14:41 <i2020> malta hehehe no... that was an age ago... took part in a major social experiment called 24weeks in summer 2007, worked as a teacher in penzance for a year which brought an end to my teaching career, beenoff to monasteries in thailand and now back in london to help with the economic crunch...
14:41 <i2020> what's your university course... this same thing?
14:47 <madmax> last time I remember hearing from you, you were in malta I guess :P
14:47 <madmax> it's information systems and computer engineering
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14:52 <i2020> wow... enjoying it?
14:53 <i2020> you are writing the script for the new world...
14:53 <i2020> or building it...
14:55 <madmax> yeah, I'm liking it :) and there's some nice courses in the 4th/5th year
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15:50 <freako5> k-yo what were u talking about?
15:50 <K-Yo> freako5, heh, I show you
15:51 <K-Yo> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202116#top
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15:52 <freako5> sounds nice, let me try it
15:53 <freako5> somekind of update from armaspy?
15:54 <K-Yo> freako5, hmmm kinda
15:54 <K-Yo> but out of the browser ;)
15:57 <freako5> lets redownload it,, my zip file is corrupt -_-
15:58 <K-Yo> heh :/
15:59 <freako5> gotta reboot my pc
15:59 <freako5> after opening that zip.file my whole windows is fucked :|
15:59 <K-Yo> :)
15:59 <freako5> :\
15:59 <K-Yo> :S
16:00 <freako5> brb
16:00 <freako5> lol
16:00 <freako5> the power-off button isnt even working
16:01 <K-Yo> hahaha
16:01 <K-Yo> excellent
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16:05 <freako5> back
16:05 <freako5> k-yo how do i run it?
16:06 <K-Yo> freako5, run the java file
16:06 <K-Yo> freako5, what OS ur on?
16:06 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r977 Added comment....
16:06 <freako5> windows
16:06 <K-Yo> #last --from=Pinktomatoes --with=http
16:06 <@armabot> K-Yo: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 50000 messages.
16:07 <K-Yo> freako5, run the java file
16:07 <freako5> <---- java noob
16:07 <K-Yo> freako5, double clic it
16:07 <K-Yo> xD
16:07 <K-Yo> <--- java super noob
16:07 <freako5> wich file lol ?
16:07 <K-Yo> jre
16:07 <K-Yo> no
16:07 <K-Yo> jar
16:07 <freako5> the zip archive?
16:07 <K-Yo> oh
16:07 <K-Yo> you have to unzip it first xD
16:08 * freako5 hates people who zip files twice :p
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16:08 <K-Yo> oi ct|kyle
16:08 * freako5 is waiting for someone saying, *i hate freako*
16:08 <K-Yo> freako5, twice zipped? mine was only once
16:08 <K-Yo> *i hate freako*
16:09 <freako5> 1. forum download <-- zip 2. in the zip is another zip :/
16:09 <K-Yo> well
16:09 <K-Yo> I had only one
16:09 <K-Yo> maybe alien just changed the file xD
16:09 <freako5> uhm.. and then?
16:09 <freako5> im totally stuck
16:10 <K-Yo> what files you have?
16:10 <freako5> monitron-class. etc
16:10 <K-Yo> huh
16:10 <K-Yo> we don't have the same file
16:10 <K-Yo> let me check
16:12 <K-Yo> freako5, http://crazy-tronners.com/kyo/MoniTron.zip
16:12 <K-Yo> here is the file I got
16:12 <freako5> same
16:13 <freako5> when u press the jar it starts?
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16:13 <K-Yo> yep
16:13 <K-Yo> (but I have latest version of java)
16:13 <K-Yo> it's needed apparently from what alien says
16:13 <freako5> same
16:13 <freako5> -_-
16:14 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8784 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nServerInfo.cpp): Manuel Moos: Added comment.
16:14 <K-Yo> hmm
16:14 <K-Yo> so you have monitron.jar ? and when you double clic, what does it do?
16:14 <freako5> opens a zip archive :P
16:14 <K-Yo> hmmm
16:14 <K-Yo> then
16:14 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: it shows the class files :)
16:14 <K-Yo> right clic and run with
16:14 <PinkTomato> you run it as ./MoniTron.jar
16:14 <K-Yo> run with java
16:15 <K-Yo> hi PinkTomato :)
16:15 <PinkTomato> Hey K-Yo :)
16:15 <PinkTomato> Did Run With Java work?
16:15 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, I double clic personally, it's enough here :P
16:15 <PinkTomato> freako5 must have an archiver that thinks .jar is an archive :)
16:16 <freako5> winrar :\
16:17 <i2020> breep
16:17 <freako5> why does java has someone .exe prgms lol
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16:18 <freako5> gotta choose out of like 20 :P
16:18 <freako5> wich one is right -_-
16:18 <freako5> brb
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16:20 <freako5> k-yo: wich jave .exe do i need?
16:21 <PinkTomato> freako5: load a command prompt, and try java MoniTron.jar
16:21 <freako5> they basically all do nothing :/
16:22 <K-Yo> freako5, eeerm
16:22 <freako5> could not find the main class: Monitron.jar
16:23 <PinkTomato> javaw.exe -jar
16:23 <PinkTomato> sorry :)
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16:23 <freako5> no respond
16:23 <freako5> only a sound, that it failed
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16:24 <PinkTomato> what sort of fail?
16:25 <freako5> lol
16:25 <freako5> it gives no respond/ it makes that sound, when ur copying files..... and it gets stuck :P
16:25 <K-Yo> hmmm
16:25 <K-Yo> i'm trying to find in the registry what file reads it
16:26 <K-Yo> freako5, "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe" -jar "%1" %*
16:26 <freako5> It looks like a nice addon, only a bit to hard for javanoobs
16:26 <freako5> :|
16:26 <K-Yo> freako5, well, seems it depends
16:26 <K-Yo> you probably fucked the registry for .jar on installing winrar
16:27 <K-Yo> I didn't have any of those problems
16:27 <K-Yo> freako5, maybe reinstalling java6 (after winrar) will solve the problem
16:27 <freako5> finally
16:27 <freako5> its running
16:28 <K-Yo> :)
16:28 <freako5> why are CT-s server my favourite LOL!
16:28 <freako5> :P
16:29 <freako5> how can i add favourite servers? :P
16:29 <K-Yo> edit the .ini file
16:29 <K-Yo> with a text editor
16:29 <freako5> and, how can I join a server with it "[
16:30 <freako5> :)
16:32 <K-Yo> clic it on the tray :)
16:32 <K-Yo> (first restart the app if you modified the ini file)
16:33 <freako5> and... how many time does it reload :P
16:34 <K-Yo> well
16:34 <K-Yo> I guess like wrtl's script
16:34 <K-Yo> so more or less every minute
16:35 <freako5> mmm... is there a way to speed it up? :P
16:35 * freako5 is asking to much
16:36 <PinkTomato> freako5: If it is powered from wrtl's site, then max update would be once a minute :)
16:37 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: what's beta 7 like?
16:37 * freako5 is going to stalk wrtl to speed it up :)
16:37 <K-Yo> freako5, I doubt it, if we do it more often, it would produce lag to master servers :P
16:37 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, ok
16:37 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: is it useable?
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16:38 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, are you talking about the build you gave me?
16:39 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: Whoops! I meant Windows 7 and it was kyle that responded to forum post
16:40 <K-Yo> windows 7 ? ^o)
16:41 <Lizmatic> how can I get arma working on a 64bit? asking for a friend
16:41 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8785 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: removed faulty build.
16:41 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
16:42 <PinkTomato> I would have thought armagetron would work in 64 bits?
16:42 <PinkTomato> 32bit mode*
16:42 <zmanuel> Yep. It should just work.
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16:43 <Concord> hi i2020
16:44 <i2020> hey hey conks
16:45 <Lizmatic> 32bit mode?
16:46 <Lizmatic> I don't really know what the exact problem is, not much knowledge in that department, but my friend said tron doesn't work very well on 64bit
16:46 <Lizmatic> so that's all the info I can give
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16:47 <freako5> k-yo im mostly running xp
16:48 <freako5> only follow 7 a bit to see whats updated
16:48 <PinkTomato> Well downloading 64bit windows 7 so if it runs bad you'll know about it :)
16:48 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: copy cat
16:48 <freako5> havent done looked in a while though,, the updates of 7 suck
16:48 * Lizmatic doesn't get it
16:49 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: hehe, thanks for the links ct|kyle :D
16:49 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I have 32 bit, getting 64 bit just to try some stuff 64 bit vista would not let me do
16:49 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: no problem a friend gave them to me :)
16:49 <PinkTomato> Most processors are 64-bit though?
16:49 <freako5> new* processors
16:50 <ct|kyle> a lot are anymore
16:50 <ct|kyle> ^^
16:50 <PinkTomato> Its E8200
16:50 <freako5> there are still more people using old ones
16:50 <PinkTomato> I still don't know what linux -bits I am running
16:50 <ct|kyle> i've been using 64 bit for a long time
16:50 <ct|kyle> all my tron years
16:51 <Lizmatic> so there is no solution for this?:S
16:53 <PinkTomato> Personally, sounds more like there is a problem with the graphics card?
16:57 <Lizmatic> i have no idea.. ive tried both 2.8 and 3.. 2.8 showed an error in some of the folders, username error :S and 3 just froze and never did anything
16:57 <Lizmatic> he has a good computer tho so idk whats wrong, plus he said its got to do with the 64bit part
16:58 <PinkTomato> did they try 0.3 first, and did it freeze when going to Internet Browser list?
16:58 <Lizmatic> local game worked, internet browser didnt
16:58 <Lizmatic> it froze when i pressed internet browser..
16:59 <PinkTomato> was the name with ___?
16:59 <PinkTomato> It sounds related to this: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202135#202135
17:00 <PinkTomato> Once you try the new 0.3 (which was removed today), it screws up your configuration folder.
17:00 <PinkTomato> Hence trying any other armagetron makes it moany
17:01 <Lizmatic> I see.. well it wasnt like those screenshots
17:01 <Lizmatic> but i can try some of the solutions on the forums
17:02 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: takes a good 2 minutes in a frozen state for that to appear :)
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17:03 <Lizmatic> it was something about the folders being screwed up tho
17:03 <PinkTomato> ??
17:06 <epsy> PinkTomato, that's not the config that's the server list
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17:13 <PinkTomato> epsy: that is what I meant :)
17:15 <epsy> now if zmanuel says it just shows warning it's just that the client reads/filters text wrongly, stores them as ___ in the server list, and crashes
17:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/ball/dodgeball3-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
17:17 <zmanuel> epsy: it doesn't even crash. It just stalls for a long time doing name lookups.
17:18 <epsy> eh
17:18 <epsy> last time I checked, netfilters were fine, maybe they were crushed in the merge?
17:21 <zmanuel> possible.
17:22 <epsy> ugh, bzr gblame set a window width large than my screen :<
17:23 <epsy> larger *
17:24 <madmax> #m hoax http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/jeremy_clarkson/article5483422.ece
17:24 <@armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded.
17:24 <PinkTomato> One thing windows needs is that ALT + Drag
17:24 <epsy> for windows?
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17:24 <PinkTomato> Well Linux ALT+Click lets you move oversized windows, seems such a useful feature, I have no idea why it isn't in Windows
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17:25 <epsy> well, it's also faster to move them
17:25 <epsy> there's also alt+middle click for resizing
17:26 <PinkTomato> Not heard of that one :)
17:27 <epsy> zmanuel, though I can't reproduce it here (arch) with latest
17:28 <zmanuel> me neither. It's just the windows build.
17:29 <epsy> hm, I would check raw input, how tCharacterNetFilter filters them, and what are it's filters
17:30 <ct|kyle> windows also need Scrolling on inactive windows
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17:32 <epsy> windows also needs to force focused window on top
17:32 <epsy> and to not need to click to focus, too
17:34 <epsy> oh, and if it could get rid of the logo, too :)
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17:37 <smoothice> PinkTomato: What packages do I need to install to compile dedicated on Ubuntu?
17:37 <BabyBug> #ubuntu
17:37 <smoothice> PInkTomato: Your edited version of the apt-get line
17:37 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install build-essential automake subversion libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
17:37 <BabyBug> ooooooo
17:38 <smoothice> PinkTomato edited that
17:38 <BabyBug> *shuts up*
17:38 <BabyBug> #ubuntu-dedi
17:38 <BabyBug> worth a try =(
17:39 <K-Yo> #wiki installing
17:39 <K-Yo> #apropos wiki
17:39 <epsy> um, python time I guess
17:39 <@armabot> K-Yo: aawiki, armawiki, wikipedia, and wikipediamonkey
17:39 <K-Yo> #aawiki installing
17:39 <@armabot> K-Yo: Search took 0.26 seconds: Installing the Game - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Installing_the_Game>; Linux Distribution Field Report - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Linux_Distribution_Field_Report>; Customizing the game - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: (3 more messages)
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17:40 <PinkTomato> smoothice: sudo apt-get install build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev bzr
17:40 <PinkTomato> replace svn with bzr for svn ;) :D
17:41 <epsy> s/svn with bzr/bzr with svn/
17:42 <PinkTomato> actually anyone know which of the two you need out of: autoconf autotools-dev?
17:42 <epsy> both?
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17:42 <K-Yo> #alias add ubuntu sudo apt-get install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config
17:42 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
17:43 <PinkTomato> Does that line also need autocon and autotools-dev?
17:43 <K-Yo> #alias add ubuntu sudo apt-get install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev
17:43 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
17:43 <PinkTomato> :D
17:43 <K-Yo> :)
17:43 <K-Yo> (It can't hurt anyway :P)
17:43 <PinkTomato> nope :)
17:44 <smoothice> PinkTomato: but you said I don't need SDL...
17:44 <PinkTomato> you don't
17:44 <smoothice> oh right
17:44 <smoothice> client
17:44 <smoothice> :P
17:44 <PinkTomato> I think
17:44 <PinkTomato> i've not actually tried my line
17:44 <PinkTomato> so let me know if it fails on ./configure :D
17:45 <smoothice> PinkTomato: well it worked last time lol
17:45 <smoothice> sty+ct compiled
17:45 <PinkTomato> :D
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18:50 <freako5> -_-
18:51 <PinkTomato> freako5: what's up :)?
18:55 * BabyBug looks at the PinkTomato
18:56 <PinkTomato> What did I do BabyBug? :)
18:56 <BabyBug> Nothing....
18:56 * freako5 think babybug has never seen such a tast pink tomato
18:56 <freako5> tasty*
18:56 <PinkTomato> Wondered what that look was for ..
18:57 <BabyBug> can't hug..so look is the next best thing \o/ xD
18:58 <PinkTomato> You said you couldn't cuddle!
18:58 <PinkTomato> hug != cuddle :P
18:58 <BabyBug> a cuddle is a hug.... ><
18:58 <smoothice> BlueTomatoes are tastier than pink ones
18:59 <PinkTomato> I prefer waves anyway!
18:59 -!- smoothice is now known as BlueTomato
18:59 <BlueTomato> see?
19:00 <freako5> yup
19:00 <freako5> ur much tastier :)
19:00 <BlueTomato> told you so
19:01 -!- BlueTomato is now known as smoothice
19:01 <smoothice> #flirt
19:01 <smoothice> #myip
19:01 <@armabot> smoothice: 83.243.117.49
19:01 * Lizmatic taught her bitch well
19:01 <smoothice> #flirt Lizmatic
19:01 <smoothice> #alias add flirt Wow $1... you are looking good!
19:01 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
19:01 <smoothice> #flirt freako5
19:02 <smoothice> meh
19:02 <smoothice> armabot is broken
19:02 <PinkTomato> armabot is obviously not in the mood
19:02 <smoothice> :P
19:02 <smoothice> #flirt PinkTomato
19:02 <smoothice> #list Alias
19:02 <@armabot> smoothice: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, #ratchet, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, bzr0.3.1, c, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, corn, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, (5 more messages)
19:02 <Lizmatic> #ratchet
19:02 <smoothice> #armaservers
19:02 <Lizmatic> armabot sucks
19:02 <smoothice> #armaservers
19:03 <@armabot> Lizmatic: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
19:03 <PinkTomato> help ##ratchet
19:03 <@armabot> smoothice: This data is 30 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (9/14), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Wild West =Sumo= (7/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (7/10), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (6/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), -=VcL.High Rubber (1 more message)
19:03 <@armabot> smoothice: This data is 35 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (9/14), The YELLOW Submarine (9/12), Wild West =Sumo= (7/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (7/10), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (6/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (6/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), -=VcL.High Rubber (1 more message)
19:03 <PinkTomato> #help #ratchet
19:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (#ratchet <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "Teh God.".
19:03 <smoothice> @alias add flirt Wow $1... you are looking good!
19:03 <teabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
19:03 <PinkTomato> #alias remove #ratchet
19:03 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The operation succeeded.
19:03 <smoothice> @flirt PinkTomato
19:03 <PinkTomato> soo not
19:03 <smoothice> @alias add flirt say Wow $1... you are looking good!
19:03 <teabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
19:03 <smoothice> @flirt PinkTomato
19:03 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:03 <smoothice> :O
19:04 <PinkTomato> lol :D
19:04 <smoothice> fine
19:04 <smoothice> @alias add flirt2 say Wow $1... you are looking good!
19:04 <smoothice> @flirt2 PinkTomato
19:04 <teabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
19:04 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:04 <smoothice> @flirt2 PinkTomato
19:04 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:04 <smoothice> gaah
19:04 <smoothice> fine
19:04 <smoothice> I lose
19:05 * freako5 flirt
19:05 * smoothice /me
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19:10 <epsy> @say hello
19:10 <teabot> hello
19:10 <epsy> #say hello
19:10 <@armabot> hello
19:10 <smoothice> @say WASSUP
19:10 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:10 <smoothice> epsy: *sigh*
19:10 <epsy> #flirt2 smoothice
19:10 <epsy> @flirt2 smoothice
19:10 <smoothice> @flirt2
19:10 <teabot> Wow smoothice... you are looking good!
19:10 <teabot> smoothice: (flirt2 <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "say Wow $1... you are looking good!".
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19:11 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8786 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build_codeblocks/ (6 files): Manuel Moos: Added tColor.*.
19:11 <Lizmatic> @say wow smoothice, ur phailing
19:11 <teabot> Lizmatic: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:12 <Lizmatic> :<
19:12 <BabyBug> #say Lizmatic you fail but i still love you <3
19:12 <@armabot> Lizmatic you fail but i still love you <3
19:12 <Lizmatic> but I am registered! :<
19:12 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, registered with teabot?
19:13 <epsy> @alias remove flirt2
19:13 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:13 <epsy> @alias remove flirt
19:13 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
19:13 <Lizmatic> um, no
19:13 <BabyBug> :P
19:13 <Lizmatic> screw youuu
19:13 <smoothice> #say wow Lizmatic, you're failing
19:13 <@armabot> wow Lizmatic, you're failing
19:13 * Lizmatic cries
19:13 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, i know you want to, no need to keep saying it!
19:14 <epsy> #kick armabot
19:14 <@armabot> epsy: Error: I cowardly refuse to kick myself.
19:15 <epsy> @kick teabot
19:15 <teabot> epsy: Error: I need to be opped to kick someone.
19:15 <smoothice> #hostmask add smoothice
19:15 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
19:15 <smoothice> meh?
19:16 <epsy> 1/ to it in pm
19:16 <epsy> 2 just type @hostmask add
19:16 <epsy> er
19:16 <epsy> "hostmask add", rather
19:16 <smoothice> smoothice: hostmask add smoothice
19:16 <smoothice> [11:16am] armabot: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
19:16 <BabyBug> you need to be registered with the bot for that though.......
19:16 <epsy> I just said
19:16 <epsy> only type "hostmask add"
19:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8787 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build_codeblocks/ (6 files): Manuel Moos: Activating all builds.
19:16 <smoothice> smoothice: hostmask add
19:16 <smoothice> [11:16am] armabot: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
19:17 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-build_codeblocks-work] r20 Activating all builds.... || [0.2.8-build_codeblocks-work] r19 Added tColor.*....
19:31 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8788 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp: (tString&)"literal" is an illegal conversion, changed that to tString("literal").
19:40 <smoothice> armabot: say hi
19:40 <@armabot> hi
19:40 <smoothice> #sd CTF Shooting
19:40 <@armabot> smoothice: Wild West =CTF Shooting=: Players (2/10): .:dkt:.2Face, .:dk~Joker
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19:51 <zmanuel> Lucifer: aha!
19:51 <zmanuel> (tString&)"AAA" is illegal :)
19:51 <Lucifer> ?
19:51 <zmanuel> bzr just blamed you for it.
19:51 <Lucifer> blamed me? I thought I changed that
19:52 <zmanuel> worst case, it gets interpreted as reinterpret_cast< tString & >( "AAA" )
19:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8789 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/code_blocks/ (5 files): Added a couple of files. Still incomplete, not yet adapted to new version stuff.
19:57 <Lucifer> grrr, I didn't put that there, and I remember fixing it, heh
19:57 <Lucifer> probalby another merge stomp
19:57 <zmanuel> possibly :)
19:58 <zmanuel> Let's blame epsy, then.
19:58 <animuson> Blame Canada!
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19:59 <Lucifer> also possible I only fixed it in 0.3.1 branch, but that wouldn't explain how I got blamed for it being put there in the first place
19:59 <Lucifer> regardless, it's just about warm enough for me to ride my bike
19:59 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
19:59 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 63.0°F (12:55 PM CST on January 11, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Falling).
20:00 <animuson> #weather 68138
20:00 <Lucifer> it's either that or I'm running again today
20:00 <animuson> >_>
20:00 <@armabot> animuson: The current temperature in Chalco Hills Rec Area, Omaha, Nebraska is 30.0°F (12:59 PM CST on January 11, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 30.21 in 1022.9 hPa (Falling).
20:01 <animuson> chalco hills LOL
20:01 <Lucifer> it gives the location of the thermometer, afaik
20:02 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
20:02 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 23.7°F (2:02 PM EST on January 11, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
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20:02 <Lucifer> man, here's a problem I really don't want to solve
20:03 <animuson> lucifer ur aamaproator install instructions confuse the hell outta me :P
20:03 <Lucifer> the resource sorting script tries to locate the dtd and print a warning if it can't find it
20:03 <Lucifer> animuson: your second word does not make sense to me
20:03 <animuson> :P
20:03 <Lucifer> the problem is, I'm , er, wait a minute, maybe there isn't a problem, heh
20:03 <Lucifer> animuson: doesn't it use python's distutils?
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20:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8790 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/update_version.bat: Adapted a bit to new expectations. Not all variables are set, but they don't have to be.
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20:19 <sinewav> hello world
20:19 <ct|kyle> hello sinewav
20:20 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you are not the world!
20:20 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Lies
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20:36 <Paralyzed> hai
20:38 <smoothice> hi
20:38 <smoothice> wassup
20:39 <smoothice> Paralyzed: wassup
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20:43 * PinkTomato waves at noob_saibot :)
20:44 <noob_saibot> hey pinky
20:44 <PinkTomato> hey :)
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21:12 <K-Yo> http://twisted-rats.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?p=640#p640
21:12 <epsy> what's the point in you showing yourself posting ":O"
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21:21 <PinkTomato> :O
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21:57 <Lizmatic> Uhu, K-Yo seems to believe its interesting
21:57 <Lizmatic> and who's lightening.. no one cares
22:05 <K-Yo> Lizmatic, maybe you don't.
22:05 <epsy> :O
22:05 <K-Yo> epsy, I'm not showing myself posting ":O" if you look closely
22:05 <epsy> you are
22:05 <K-Yo> well
22:06 <K-Yo> feel free to be wrong ;)
22:06 <epsy> anyway do we really need to drama each week when someone says "omg I will never come back"
22:07 <PinkTomato> stop making dramas tron world!
22:07 <Lizmatic> I fixed your post anyway, K-Yo o/
22:07 <Lizmatic> and those "I'm quitting tron" posts are hilarious
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22:08 <epsy> fail
22:09 <Lizmatic> LOL
22:09 <epsy> BabyBug, BabyBug! Look what Lizmatic wrote!
22:09 <PinkTomato> I don't get it...
22:09 <BabyBug> epsy?
22:10 <Lizmatic> PinkTomato, what don't you get xD
22:10 <PinkTomato> Its a C and a load of = signs.
22:10 <epsy> BabyBug: http://twisted-rats.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?p=651#p651
22:10 <Lizmatic> PinkTomato, look closely
22:10 <epsy> and also (__)__), which I couldn't really identify
22:10 <BabyBug> Lizmatic >.<
22:11 <epsy> :D
22:11 <Lizmatic> pff you guys suck, its a penis with buttocks
22:11 <Lizmatic> C < penishead
22:11 <Lizmatic> == < erm.. shaft?
22:11 <Lizmatic> (__)__) < ass
22:11 <Lizmatic> and I wish I hadn't written that now ^
22:11 <PinkTomato> Oh ^^
22:11 <PinkTomato> wait :O is a mouth?
22:11 <epsy> so it's someone who's sucking onto someone whose penis is in the side of his hass?
22:11 <epsy> ass *
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22:12 <epsy> s/is in/is on/
22:12 <epsy> urm
22:12 <epsy> keep going with the art :<
22:12 <Lizmatic> :O is a mouth yes
22:12 <Lizmatic> which implies that K-Yo is a...
22:12 <Lizmatic> :D
22:12 <Lizmatic> which made him leave
22:12 <Lizmatic> :<
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22:16 <BabyBug> Lizmatic loves hurting people xD
22:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8791 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/code_blocks/ (4 files): Added all current files to projects.
22:17 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, except you love
22:17 <BabyBug> awwwww <33
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22:28 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r768 Added all current files to projects.
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22:37 <sinewav> .ladle
22:37 <sinewav> #ladle
22:37 <epsy> @linkladle
22:37 <PinkTomato> #linkladle
22:37 <epsy> teabot: die
22:37 <sinewav> #linkladle
22:37 <sinewav> `I don't know what I'm doing hahaha
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22:39 <epsy> @linkladle
22:39 <epsy> (now you gotta wait three hours until it's done syncing to channels)
22:39 <sinewav> #list
22:39 <@armabot> sinewav: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
22:39 <teabot> Ladle : http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
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22:42 <sinewav> epsy: I have no idea how to use IRC or the bots here. Can you reccomend a link to read?
22:43 <epsy> for IRC/freenode stuff you could visit freenode.net or just google what you need
22:43 <epsy> the bots here are undocumented
22:43 <epsy> but I take note :)
22:44 <sinewav> ok thanks!
22:44 <PinkTomato> sinewav: you could try /msg armabot list alias :)
22:44 <epsy> yeah, same for teabot and tronner
22:44 <PinkTomato> /msg armabot list alias
22:44 <epsy> # -> armabot
22:44 <epsy> . -> tronner (which isnt here)
22:44 <epsy> @ -> teabot (mine)
22:45 <PinkTomato> #ratchet
22:45 <@armabot> PinkTomato: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
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22:45 <epsy> there's a lot of useless aliasses
22:45 <epsy> #help ratchet
22:45 <@armabot> epsy: (ratchet <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "Ratchet $*".
22:45 <epsy> lol..
22:45 <PinkTomato> #alias remove ratchet
22:45 <sinewav> IRC bots can search, like arma's server browser, right?
22:45 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The operation succeeded.
22:45 <epsy> search what?
22:45 <epsy> @g armagetronad
22:45 <teabot> epsy: http://www.armagetronad.net/ - Armagetron Advanced :: a Tron clone in 3D
22:46 <epsy> @aawikis cockpits
22:46 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Cockpits_list - Cockpits list - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
22:46 <sinewav> If I wanted to search an arma server for players?
22:46 <animuson> is ur brain charged tomato?
22:46 <epsy> @lastseen epsy
22:46 <PinkTomato> #ratchet-
22:46 <epsy> @serverdetails cafe
22:46 <PinkTomato> #ratchet--
22:46 <teabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ has last been seen on Fortress Café 2 days 2 hours 17 minutes ago.
22:46 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:46 <PinkTomato> why has ratchet got all these alias' Oo
22:46 <epsy> #help ratchet-
22:46 <@armabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "ratchet-".
22:47 <PinkTomato> #help ratchet--
22:47 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (ratchet-- <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "Ratchet $*".
22:47 <PinkTomato> #alias remove ratchet--
22:47 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The operation succeeded.
22:47 <PinkTomato> no need for stuff that do nothing
22:47 <epsy> useless aliasses even
22:47 <sinewav> @serverdetails cafe
22:47 <sinewav> @serverdetails cafe
22:47 <teabot> sinewav: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:47 <sinewav> oops
22:47 <epsy> sinewav, @sd for short
22:47 <teabot> sinewav: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:47 <sinewav> @sd flag
22:47 <epsy> you can use -v for more info
22:47 <teabot> sinewav: Wild West =Capture The Flag=: Players (9/10): Aerotron, Baron Lasers, blindmnz, jet, Life, norT, Number3, tomb, _~R~_ Panda<3
22:48 <sinewav> hmm. I guess I have some reading to do.
22:48 <epsy> #where are the noobs
22:49 <PinkTomato> #cinf 0
22:49 <@armabot> PinkTomato: 32.0
22:49 <PinkTomato> good that one is fixed now :)
22:49 <epsy> #where are the noobs ?
22:49 <@armabot> epsy: - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | -: Players (9/16): 'DC')Ocobo, dissident freak, Faster, Norzman5, rikki boobie, SuP3rgirL, TrendyEistee, Wallace, `DC`)that 1 kid
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22:49 <epsy> PinkTomato,
22:49 <epsy> #calc 0 C in F
22:49 <@armabot> epsy: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
22:49 <epsy> #google calc 0 C in F
22:49 <@armabot> epsy: 0 degrees Celsius = 32 degrees Fahrenheit
22:49 <PinkTomato> that's 15 more characters and slower :)
22:50 <epsy> hrhr
22:50 <PinkTomato> #help plzpwn
22:50 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (plzpwn <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Please hack this host: $host [roulette] [roulette] [roulette] [roulette] [roulette] [roulette]".
22:51 <PinkTomato> um...
22:51 <epsy> useful
22:51 <smoothice> luke-jr: I switched my VPS over to Debian...
22:51 <epsy> :xx
22:51 <epsy> #plzpwn PinkTomato
22:51 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
22:51 * armabot Please hack this host: unaffiliated/epsy reloads and spins the chambers. *click* *click* *click* *click* *click*
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22:51 <PinkTomato> what happended there?
22:51 <smoothice> #plzpwn
22:51 <@armabot> Please hack this host: unaffiliated/smoothice *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click*
22:52 <epsy> you know what's wrong with it?
22:52 <smoothice> #plzpwn PinkTomato
22:52 <@armabot> Please hack this host: unaffiliated/smoothice *click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click*
22:52 <smoothice> meh?
22:52 <epsy> consecutive calls to roulette on the same line will always give the same result
22:53 <luke-jr> smoothice: …?
22:53 <smoothice> luke-jr: I rebuilt my VPS using Debian 4.0
22:54 <PinkTomato> epsy: but its producing different results?
22:54 <smoothice> luke-jr: And I thought you'd be interested to know that I'm not using the "hell distribution" any longer
22:54 <epsy> PinkTomato, no, not on the same line
22:55 <smoothice> #debian
22:55 <smoothice> #ubuntu
22:56 <smoothice> armabot is broken
22:57 <smoothice> I think
22:57 <smoothice> It
22:57 <epsy> #ping
22:57 <@armabot> pong
22:57 <smoothice> #ubuntu
22:57 <smoothice> #say hiu
22:57 <epsy> try #ping
22:57 <@armabot> hiu
22:57 <smoothice> meh
22:57 <smoothice> ok
22:58 <epsy> #help ubuntu
22:58 <@armabot> epsy: (ubuntu <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "sudo apt-get install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev".
22:58 <epsy> -.-
22:58 <epsy> #alias add ubuntu "ECHO sudo apt-get install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev"
22:58 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
22:58 <epsy> #ubuntu
22:58 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev
23:05 <smoothice> Would this same apt-get line work for building dedicated on Debian?
23:06 <epsy> most probably
23:06 <smoothice> ok
23:06 <epsy> you just don't want SDL
23:06 <smoothice> k
23:06 <epsy> or don't need
23:07 <smoothice> Which ones are SDL?
23:07 <epsy> well, it's pretty clean IMO
23:07 <smoothice> libsdl-image1.2-dev to libglew?
23:07 <epsy> clear**
23:07 <epsy> yeah
23:09 <epsy> good night
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23:33 <smoothice> luke-jr: The current version of Bazaar in the Debian 4.0 packages is 0.2 something
23:33 <smoothice> luke-jr: can it be updated to 1.10?
23:34 <PinkTomato> smoothice: wget the .deb from the website
23:35 <smoothice> PinkTomato: ok...
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23:35 <smoothice> sorry about that
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23:51 <PinkTomato> Concord: find a free host?
23:52 <Concord> no,
23:52 <smoothice> a web host?
23:52 <Concord> I'll talk later, got some work
23:52 <smoothice> Are you looking for a free webhost?
23:53 <smoothice> Concord: Are you looking for a free webhost?
23:53 <Concord> yeah
23:53 <smoothice> 000webhost.com
23:53 <smoothice> http://000webhost.com
23:53 <smoothice> I've used them lots of various different things
23:54 <Concord> I tried that, the database connection wasn't good
23:54 <Concord> freehostia was too slow
23:54 <smoothice> oh ok
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00:41 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8794 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/: Manuel Moos: Not merging this from 0.3.1, let epsy fix it: dave@davefancella... 2009-01-07 Reverted to working version of version.
00:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8795 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (13 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed)
00:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
00:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
00:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: Daniel Lee Harple 2009-01-08 Use --trace flag when executing rake.
00:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: dave@davefancella... 2009-01-08 Added armabuild python module to co...
00:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: dave@davefancella... 2009-01-08 Replaced sortresource shell script ...
00:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: Daniel Lee Harple 2009-01-07 No tTrueVersion.h when using Xcode.
00:44 <animuson> #seen e_n_d_e_r
00:44 <@armabot> animuson: e_n_d_e_r was last seen in #armagetron 5 days, 7 hours, 26 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <e_n_d_e_r> noobs! :P
00:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8796 /armagetronad/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
00:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8750 to 8792:
00:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8787 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-11 19:16:27 +0100 (Sun, 11 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
00:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Activating all builds.
00:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: (not merged, outdated)
00:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
00:47 <animuson> o.O
00:50 <Concord> #seen Lightning
00:50 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen Lightning.
00:51 <Concord> #seen radian
00:51 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen radian.
00:51 <Concord> #seen Radian
00:51 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen Radian.
00:51 <animuson> #seen smoothice
00:51 <@armabot> animuson: smoothice was last seen in #armagetron 57 minutes and 14 seconds ago: <smoothice> oh ok
00:51 <noob_saibot> #seen Concord
00:51 <@armabot> noob_saibot: Concord was last seen in #armagetron 42 seconds ago: <Concord> #seen Radian
00:52 <Concord> lol
00:52 <noob_saibot> LOL
00:52 <Concord> cafe?
00:52 <noob_saibot> k
00:52 <animuson> anyone know how to get the crazy tronners type map rotator working?
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01:06 <animuson> is anyone even online?
01:06 <noob_saibot> no
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01:12 <z-man> the rest of us know nothing about the ct map rotator.
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01:27 <PinkTomato> animuson: the ct rotator on the ct wiki, would not recommend
01:27 <animuson> :P
01:27 <animuson> well u dont know how urs works :P
01:27 <PinkTomato> Oh I know how one of them works
01:27 <animuson> u keep saying that :P
01:28 <PinkTomato> dIdn't I give you a map rotator already?
01:29 <animuson> no
01:29 <animuson> u gave me the rover files
01:29 <animuson> which doesnt have a map rotator
01:29 <PinkTomato> oh,
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01:29 <PinkTomato> but it has an example of how scripting wokrs
01:29 <PinkTomato> you've done webpages before right?
01:30 <animuson> yea
01:30 <PinkTomato> well you know how php works then
01:30 <PinkTomato> each line is fed into it a bit like a $_POST
01:31 <PinkTomato> all you need to do is check that line from the ladderlog and respond with an armagetronad command
01:31 <animuson> all i need to do is get it so it actually runs the php files
01:31 <PinkTomato> If I feel like writing tomorrow, I'll post something on the AAWiki
01:32 <animuson> it is tomorrow
01:32 <animuson> dont lie >_>
01:32 <animuson> ur 32 minutes into tomorrow
01:32 <PinkTomato> :P
01:32 <PinkTomato> anyway
01:32 <PinkTomato> you could just use the trunk map rotator
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01:33 <animuson> which is where?
01:33 <PinkTomat1> @aawiki map rotation
01:33 <animuson> ah the good ole slowbot :P
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01:34 <PinkTomato> #aawiki map rotation
01:34 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Search took 0.51 seconds: Map /Config Rotation - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation>; Code hacks - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Code_hacks>; Old Servers - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Old_Servers>; Swamplords on Crack - Armagetron (1 more message)
01:35 <PinkTomato> do you want that or something else?
01:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r773 Merging serverinfo unknown tag spam bugfix from 0.2.8.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r773 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8750 to 8792:... || [trunk-build-work] r153 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8750 to 8792:... || [0.3.1] r772 Merging fixes and adaptions to the code::blocks windows buil... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r772 Merging from 0.3.1:...
01:37 <PinkTomato> depends what rotation you want
01:37 <animuson> i want one that selects a map from the database
01:37 <animuson> not files and such
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01:40 <PinkTomato> well adapt the CT one?
01:41 <animuson> thats what im trying to do >_>
01:42 <animuson> like i said it just does the #!/usr/bin/local/php thing
01:42 <PinkTomato> run /usr/bin/local/php
01:43 <animuson> o.O
01:43 <animuson> weird characters
01:43 <PinkTomato> um? can I see please?
01:44 <animuson> ?
01:44 <PinkTomato> send it in a pastebin, weird characters mean nothing to me
01:45 <PinkTomato> with you entering the command as well :)
01:45 <animuson> what do i type in?
01:45 <PinkTomato> /usr/bin/local/php
01:46 <PinkTomato> well?
01:47 <animuson> it wont let me copy-paste
01:47 <PinkTomato> you using Putty? just select the text, click of focus and paste
01:47 <animuson> it stops at /bin and goes "Display all 887 possibilities?"
01:47 <animuson> then puts the /local/php in the command line
01:47 <PinkTomato> none of this makes sense btw
01:48 <PinkTomato> Are you pressing ctrl i?
01:48 <animuson> no
01:48 <animuson> im right clicking
01:48 <animuson> to paste
01:48 <madmax> ahhh, just type it
01:48 <animuson> i dunno how to type those weird characters
01:48 <madmax> a slash?
01:48 <PinkTomato> what weird characters?
01:49 <PinkTomato> you don't know how to type a /?
01:49 <animuson> <-- those ones
01:49 <PinkTomato> and your asking me to run php..
01:49 * PinkTomato sees nothing
01:49 <animuson> it displays an i with two dots above it, a double right arrow, and an upside down question mark
01:50 <animuson> its showed up every time u posted the command
01:50 <madmax> go here: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2009-01-12.txt
01:50 <madmax> scroll down, copy/see the command
01:50 <PinkTomato> animuson: sounds like your client is not using UTF-8 like it should, what one are you using?
01:50 <animuson> trillian
01:51 <animuson> the command doesnt do anything
01:51 <PinkTomato> its just blank?
01:51 <animuson> just starts a new blank line
01:51 <PinkTomato> thats what it should do
01:51 <PinkTomato> ctrl c
01:51 <PinkTomato> well php is installed
01:51 <animuson> p.s. it ended up being /usr/local/bin/php
01:52 <PinkTomato> /usr/local/bin/php -> if that is the program that makes php
01:52 <PinkTomato> (blank line thingy)
01:52 <animuson> yea :P
01:52 <PinkTomato> make sure that the #!/usr/local/bin/php is correct
01:52 <animuson> i couldnt remember the install path so i went and looked at the file :P
01:52 <PinkTomato> that points to the scripting engine
01:53 <animuson> it is...
01:54 <PinkTomato> ok run ./my_script.php "ROUND_COMMENCING 2 10"
01:54 <smoothice> php my_script.php
01:55 <PinkTomato> either will work
01:55 <smoothice> Unless it has been chmod +x 'ec
01:55 <smoothice> 'ed
01:55 <PinkTomato> ah it needs to be chmod +x
01:55 <animuson> did that
01:55 <PinkTomato> you did chmod +x animuson :)?
01:55 <animuson> :P
01:55 <PinkTomato> ah good :D
01:55 <PinkTomato> well
01:55 <PinkTomato> ?
01:55 <smoothice> Is this +ct school?
01:55 <PinkTomato> pretty much :)
01:56 <smoothice> do you have a sample php script?
01:56 <smoothice> That accepts stdin
01:56 <smoothice> and outputs to arma?
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01:56 <PinkTomato> my new one accepts STDIN
01:57 <animuson> still just returns "#!/usr/local/bin/php"
01:57 <PinkTomato> it returns that?
01:57 <smoothice> PinkTomato: is it up at dessert.ath.cx?
01:57 <PinkTomato> pastebin the php script
01:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: not yet, planning to document it and stick it in a wiki somewhere :)
01:57 <smoothice> PinkTomato: can you pastebin it?
01:58 <smoothice> Just curious
01:58 <smoothice> for my own usuage
01:58 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/mab5e75e
01:58 <animuson> its basically the same thing from the ct site
01:58 <animuson> with the bin changed
01:58 <animuson> (for php)
01:59 <animuson> hey smoothice :P
01:59 <smoothice> hi ani
02:00 <Lucifer> #ping
02:00 <@armabot> pong
02:00 <animuson> o.O
02:00 <smoothice> O_o
02:00 <animuson> #slap Lucifer
02:00 <@armabot> animuson slaps Lucifer for being a raving moron.
02:00 <animuson> rofl
02:01 <animuson> did ur battery die already tomato?
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02:03 <PinkTomato> animuson: try this http://pastebin.com/d501cae42
02:04 <PinkTomato> chmod +x it, and run ./php_myscript.php
02:04 <PinkTomato> you are running ubuntu right?
02:04 <animuson> yea
02:05 <animuson> if it doesnt do anything is it working?
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02:05 <PinkTomato> ./php_myscript.php "test"
02:05 <animuson> woo it returns test
02:05 <animuson> :P
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02:06 <PinkTomato> replace #!/usr/local/bin/php with #!/usr/bin/php in the original file
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02:06 <animuson> i changed it in ur file
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02:06 <animuson> actually
02:06 <PinkTomato> oh
02:06 <PinkTomato> hmm
02:07 <PinkTomato> have you changed "tron.class.php" ?
02:07 <PinkTomato> copy and paste that in a pastebin
02:07 <animuson> yea
02:07 <PinkTomato> chmod +x tron.class.php as well?
02:07 <PinkTomato> It's including it as a text file I think
02:08 <smoothice> what is tron.class.php?
02:08 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m59022ac0
02:08 <PinkTomato> its a class file for sql with a stupid name
02:08 <animuson> lol
02:09 <PinkTomato> and your sure this file has permissions as well?
02:09 <animuson> (see how i edited out the mysql login info) ;)
02:09 <animuson> yea
02:09 <PinkTomato> uncomment anything with tron in it
02:09 <PinkTomato> comment*
02:10 <animuson> in the main tron.php file?
02:10 <PinkTomato> and replace the map_cycle bit with something like "echo console_message map changed";
02:10 <PinkTomato> if thats what you called the first file
02:12 <madmax> #ping
02:12 <@armabot> pong
02:12 <ct|kyle> pong
02:12 <animuson> returns the bin thing again
02:13 <smoothice> #ping
02:13 <smoothice> @ping
02:13 <teabot> pong
02:13 <@armabot> pong
02:13 <ct|kyle> pong
02:13 <smoothice> ping
02:13 <ct|kyle> pong
02:13 <animuson> #noob
02:13 <@armabot> animuson: noob_saibot.nYc has last been seen on Wild West =Sumo= 10 minutes ago.
02:13 <smoothice> ct|kyle: list Alias
02:13 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ping
02:13 <ct|kyle> smoothice: pong
02:13 <smoothice> ping
02:13 <PinkTomato> bin thing?
02:13 <smoothice> dangit kyle
02:14 <smoothice> stop faking
02:14 <smoothice> lol
02:14 <animuson> #!/usr/local/bin/php
02:14 <ct|kyle> smoothice: :P
02:14 <animuson> smoothice: delayed pong
02:14 <PinkTomato> show me your changes again
02:14 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m68016462
02:14 <PinkTomato> this line was most important to comment out: include("tron.class.php");
02:15 <animuson> :P
02:15 <animuson> that is the problem
02:15 <PinkTomato> I thought so
02:15 <PinkTomato> its including it as a text file
02:16 <PinkTomato> which suggests no executably? (any Unix people about to confirm that?)
02:16 <animuson> executability*
02:16 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I ran armagetronad-dedicated like this
02:16 <PinkTomato> even so its a made up word that make sense
02:16 <smoothice> ./armagetronad-dedicated | php randomdeath.php
02:17 <PinkTomato> that works?
02:17 <smoothice> No
02:17 <PinkTomato> xD
02:17 <smoothice> that’s why I asked
02:17 <smoothice> How do I run it
02:17 <smoothice> with the stuff sent to the PHP?
02:17 <PinkTomato> OK, Me thinks we need some new wiki stuff
02:17 <smoothice> wait...
02:17 <smoothice> before you go do that
02:17 <ct|kyle> chmod +x smoothice.php
02:18 <PinkTomato> animuson: return to a previous version
02:18 <PinkTomato> now just to be sure,
02:18 <PinkTomato> chmod +x *.php
02:20 <animuson> "
02:20 <animuson> -bash: ./tron.php: /usr/local/bin/php^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
02:20 <animuson> whered that come from?
02:20 <PinkTomato> mixing up encoding by the looks of it
02:20 <PinkTomato> php^M
02:22 <madmax> that's probably a windows line feed
02:22 <animuson> well i saved them both as UTF-8 PHP files through Dreamweaver and uploaded them
02:23 <PinkTomato> FileZilla and notepad++ work well together btw
02:23 <animuson> :P
02:24 <PinkTomato> so?
02:24 <PinkTomato> any luck?
02:24 <animuson> it gives me that new error
02:24 <PinkTomato> well nano tron.php
02:24 <PinkTomato> remove it with ssh
02:24 <PinkTomato> thats what I would do
02:24 <animuson> ?
02:25 * PinkTomato wonders if class files are even supposed to have #!
02:25 <PinkTomato> none of mine have it
02:25 <animuson> well the problem now is its adding that ^M at the end :-/
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02:26 <PinkTomato> smoothice_away: http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Running_a_Server
02:26 <PinkTomato> two screen option
02:26 <PinkTomato> is what we use
02:27 <smoothice_away> ok
02:27 <smoothice_away> I have to go
02:27 <smoothice_away> later
02:27 <PinkTomato> ok then :)
02:27 <PinkTomato> byebye
02:28 <PinkTomato> animuson: still need help?
02:28 <animuson> its not working...
02:28 <PinkTomato> what may be the problem?
02:28 <animuson> its not accessing php correctly..................
02:29 <PinkTomato> how do you mean?
02:29 <animuson> the php^M thing
02:30 <animuson> :o
02:30 <animuson> it ran
02:30 <animuson> with the class file included
02:30 <PinkTomato> good
02:30 <PinkTomato> :)
02:31 <PinkTomato> I wouldn't recommend the way your doing it though
02:31 <PinkTomato> It is much easier to read the ladderlog
02:32 <animuson> :|
02:32 <animuson> would that be easy to switch too?
02:32 <PinkTomato> it presents the data in much more parse able format.
02:32 <PinkTomato> it makes more logical sense
02:33 <madmax> vim file.php, and then ':%s/^M/\r/g' (type ^M with ctrl-v ctrl-m)
02:34 <animuson> u go make ur tutorial or w/e :P
02:34 <animuson> ill do it later
02:35 <PinkTomato> so you would rather have a documentated version rather than just code?
02:35 <animuson> yea
02:35 <PinkTomato> typical huh?
02:35 <PinkTomato> xD
02:35 <animuson> but i have to go now
02:35 <PinkTomato> OK then
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02:51 <PinkTomato> Ww Sumo has SCORE_HOLE Oo
02:53 <ct|kyle> o0
02:53 <ct|kyle> does it have auth
02:53 <PinkTomato> it does not have auth
02:54 <ct|kyle> we should teach destiny how to build tron :P
02:54 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
02:55 <PinkTomato> the whole durka thing a while back could have easily been resolved with armatehnication
02:55 <ct|kyle> what whole durka thing
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02:56 <PinkTomato> Someone phished Durka's password, so Ww had to change the passwords to all the servers
02:56 <ct|kyle> still would have happend
02:56 <PinkTomato> (forum password, had a pm)
02:56 <ct|kyle> /login durka@lagtest.net
02:56 <PinkTomato> they didn't get durka's @forums
02:56 <ct|kyle> they got mine :/
02:57 <ct|kyle> wich would have been bad if they logged onto CT forums
02:57 <sinewav> was on vacation when that happened luckily
02:57 <PinkTomato> :(
02:57 <ct|kyle> I did change 1 password
02:57 <PinkTomato> what I meant was though, when they cahnged all the passwords, there would have been a period of non-moderatory
02:57 <ct|kyle> i mean 1 server, and eveything that used that
02:57 <PinkTomato> when they send out the new passwords
02:58 <ct|kyle> ah
02:58 <PinkTomato> overwise they could have just user_leveled durka till they got it sorted
02:58 <ct|kyle> I would think the simple little modification to ctf would not be as hard as it is :/
03:01 <sinewav> ct|kyle: does your map have 2 flags and one base each team?
03:01 <PinkTomato> hmm
03:03 <ct|kyle> sinewav: yes
03:03 <sinewav> what if you had 2 bases, both with same x,y coord?
03:04 <sinewav> `would it still crash?
03:04 <ct|kyle> sinewav: the problem is a flag gets lost if they pick up more than 1 flag
03:04 <sinewav> ah, I see now.
03:05 <ct|kyle> voodoo ran into the same problems with 3team CTF
03:05 <PinkTomato> if player has flag, drop flag and pick up a new flag?
03:06 <PinkTomato> theres a /drop i think
03:06 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: the problem if figuring out if they have a flag
03:06 <ct|kyle> is*
03:06 <PinkTomato> oh
03:07 <sinewav> yeah, if two flags are picked up only one can be returned right?
03:07 <ct|kyle> I could set it when they pick it up but when they drop it you can't unset it
03:07 <ct|kyle> sinewav: ya
03:07 <ct|kyle> and the other makes server crash if you die
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03:10 <ct|kyle> #si -v regular CTF
03:10 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Regular CTF (78.46.226.237:4540) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090112 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com/, Description: “Crazy-Tronners CTF server. Located in Germany. Ask on our forums for any information.“, Players (0/10):
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03:33 <Concord> thats why we need zonesv2+ct+sty
03:35 <ct|kyle> Concord: I've been thinking about it
03:35 <Concord> hehe, a lot of work on your plate already, methinks
03:37 <ct|kyle> more than i really can handle
04:04 <ct|kyle> sinewav: Concord: can i barrow you 2?
04:04 <Concord> sure
04:04 <ct|kyle> i need at least 1 other :)
04:05 <ct|kyle> I think i fixed it
04:05 <ct|kyle> i just need to ensure that 2 players on same team can each have a flag
04:05 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you here?
04:05 <Concord> come to pink tomatos, you'll get you players
04:06 <ct|kyle> can you go tehre
04:06 <ct|kyle> there and get a few
04:06 <ct|kyle> only need 1 otehr
04:06 <ct|kyle> #si -v regular CTF
04:06 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Regular CTF (78.46.226.237:4540) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090112 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com/, Description: “Crazy-Tronners CTF server. Located in Germany. Ask on our forums for any information.“, Players (1/10): ct¤ky13 (kyle@ct)
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04:34 <sinewav> sorry I'm late
04:35 <ct|kyle> sinewav: too late :)
04:36 <ct|kyle> sinewav: fixed...tested...commented
04:39 <sinewav> cool
04:40 <ct|kyle> now to submit a patch for sty branch
04:41 <sinewav> excellent!
04:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r652 Fixing CTF Flags, Make sure a player can only have one flag
04:45 <BabyBug> ct|kyle?
04:45 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: :)
04:45 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i fixed it that hardeasy way
04:45 <BabyBug> ><
04:45 <ct|kyle> i was looking for testers
04:45 <BabyBug> ah okies ^^
04:46 <BabyBug> is msn broke for anyone else? =(
04:46 <ct|kyle> my msn is broke. :'(
04:47 <BabyBug> arf ><
04:47 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: did you get in trouble and have to have them suspend your account
04:47 <BabyBug> ...
04:49 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that's what happend to mine w/o warning
04:50 <BabyBug> ...
04:51 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ...
04:51 <BabyBug> *growls* i want to be able to sign into msn :@
04:52 <ct|kyle> msn is evil, the sooner you ditch them the better
04:52 <BabyBug> i don't want a flame war about which IM to use ><
04:52 <ct|kyle> but its true, they probably suspended your account
04:53 <ct|kyle> therefore being evil
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05:16 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, go to bed!
05:16 <noob_saibot> its too early
05:16 <noob_saibot> :)
05:17 <noob_saibot> what time is in in Whales
05:17 <noob_saibot> is it*
05:17 <BabyBug> 4:17
05:18 <noob_saibot> lol what are you doing up?
05:18 <noob_saibot> besides waiting for me
05:18 <ct|kyle> dam once sol gets past the 3:00 mark i call him an owl, now what should i call you BabyBug
05:18 <noob_saibot> a vampire :o
05:18 <BabyBug> Elen woke up and won't go back to sleep
05:19 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: give her a sleeping pill
05:19 <ct|kyle> :P
05:19 <BabyBug> no......
05:19 <ct|kyle> :S you know i was kidding
05:19 <BabyBug> yes.......
05:19 <ct|kyle> .......
05:19 <ct|kyle> :P
05:20 * BabyBug is grouchy
05:21 <noob_saibot> /we can tell
05:21 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
05:21 <ct|kyle> hopes that makes her less grouchy
05:21 * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle away
05:21 <noob_saibot> Lol
05:21 <ct|kyle> well least she got some anger out
05:22 <ct|kyle> FUCK
05:22 <noob_saibot> :o
05:23 <noob_saibot> nice star wars is on booyakasha
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05:26 <BabyBug> i vote that we burn ct|kyle at the steak
05:26 <ct|kyle> as bad as i feel I'm up for that
05:27 <BabyBug> lol what's up?
05:27 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: not talking about it on public forums
05:27 <BabyBug> in private then? :D
05:27 <ct|kyle> no
05:27 <ct|kyle> LOL
05:27 <BabyBug> pssht
05:28 <ct|kyle> I gotta go see a doctor soon
05:28 <ct|kyle> that's all i'll say
05:29 <noob_saibot> what kinda
05:29 <luke-jr> psychological!
05:30 <BabyBug> he's getting withdrawal symptoms without my cuddles =(
05:30 * noob_saibot is too
05:30 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: Nope
05:30 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: sorta on right area
05:30 <ct|kyle> lol
05:30 <BabyBug> lol O.o
05:31 <noob_saibot> its turning into a guessing game
05:31 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: weed withdrawl!
05:31 <noob_saibot> your not pregnant right
05:31 <BabyBug> you're*
05:31 <luke-jr> omfg he is⁉
05:31 <luke-jr> new rumour for Arma-land!
05:31 <noob_saibot> LOL
05:31 <luke-jr> PRINT IT
05:31 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: nope
05:31 <ct|kyle> noob_saibot: nope
05:31 <luke-jr> /ignore ct|kyle's denial
05:31 <luke-jr> tell the world
05:31 <luke-jr> ct|kyle is preggo!
05:32 <noob_saibot> lol
05:32 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: Lies
05:32 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: Impossible (but one reproductive organ is not working right)
05:32 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I can't hear you!
05:34 <noob_saibot> O.o
05:35 <ct|kyle> lets just say it constantly hurts like you got hit in that area
05:35 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: liar
05:35 <noob_saibot> but does it work?
05:35 <luke-jr> if it did, you wouldn't be here typing
05:35 <ct|kyle> yea
05:36 <luke-jr> noob_saibot: presumably, ct|kyle shouldn't know the answer to that
05:36 <noob_saibot> lol
05:36 <noob_saibot> its all good
05:36 <BabyBug> luke-jr, did you say you had two kids?
05:37 <ct|kyle> Hydrocele
05:37 <luke-jr> BabyBug: so far
05:37 <BabyBug> luke-jr, how old?
05:37 <luke-jr> BabyBug: 3 and 1
05:37 <BabyBug> Ohs..Young dad then ^^
05:37 <noob_saibot> how old are u luke
05:38 <luke-jr> 23
05:38 <noob_saibot> me 2!
05:38 <noob_saibot> -2 kids
05:47 * sinewav understands kyle's pain and has had similar problems.
05:48 * BabyBug started laughing so decided to not say anything else on the matter =x
05:48 <noob_saibot> lolz
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05:57 <Lizz> anyone alive in here?
05:58 <Lizz> -.-
06:01 * BabyBug slaps Lizz
06:01 <Lizz> ow :P
06:01 <BabyBug> =D
06:01 * Lizz bites BabyBug
06:02 <BabyBug> ><
06:02 <Lizz> :D
06:02 * BabyBug throws Lizz down some stairs
06:02 <luke-jr> Lizz: ct|kyle is pregnant
06:03 * Lizz grabs BabyBug while falling
06:03 <BabyBug> eeek!
06:03 <Lizz> O.o
06:03 <Lizz> ur the daddy luke?
06:03 <luke-jr> no
06:03 <Lizz> :P
06:03 <luke-jr> I think it's GodTodd__
06:03 <Lizz> o.O
06:04 <Lizz> guess they left the trondoms at home >.>
06:04 <BabyBug> There's far too many Liz's ><
06:04 <Lizz> i just float thru from time to time
06:05 <Lizz> im actually after some links or info
06:05 <Lizz> om sumo settings
06:05 <noob_saibot> congrats kyle
06:05 <BabyBug> i thought you were Liza until a minute ago ><
06:05 <luke-jr> is Wizzee still around?
06:05 <Lizz> no she died
06:05 <luke-jr> (MBC)
06:05 <luke-jr> literally?
06:05 <Lizz> lol
06:06 <Lizz> havent played as wizzee for a long time
06:06 <luke-jr> oh, that's you?
06:06 <Lizz> yes luke
06:06 <luke-jr> i c
06:06 <BabyBug> lol
06:07 <luke-jr> Lizz: what happened to MBC anyhow?
06:07 <Lizz> i dont know luke. i left it years ago
06:07 <luke-jr> :þ
06:09 <Lizz> anyway.. ive been searching the wiki and the forums for default settings.. any ideas?
06:09 <luke-jr> …
06:09 <luke-jr> #armaconfig rubber
06:09 <@armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_PING_RUBBER: Additional niceness for high ping players (default: 3) || CYCLE_RUBBER: Niceness factor to allow you drive really close to a wall (default: 1) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY: During this fraction of the cycle delay time after each turn, rubber efficiency will be multiplied with CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS. (default: 0) || CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY_BONUS: Factor for CYCLE_RUBBER_DELAY (12 more messages)
06:09 <luke-jr> there's defaults
06:09 <luke-jr> <.<
06:10 <Lizz> hmmmm
06:10 <Lizz> not exatly what im after.. thx tho
06:10 <Lizz> exactly*
06:17 <BabyBug> Lizz, you looked in the examples folder of the server configs?
06:18 <Lizz> oo no i havent
06:18 <Lizz> :D
06:18 <BabyBug> twit! =P
06:18 * Lizz nods
06:18 <Lizz> :D
06:19 <BabyBug> yup...there's one in there =D
06:19 <Lizz> ima loading the server and looking
06:21 <Lizz> hmmm
06:22 <Lizz> i think i should really install a fresh server and not use an older one
06:22 <BabyBug> ^^
06:23 <Lizz> was hoping to recycle lol
06:24 <Lizz> tho... hmm ill use it for another standard play server
06:24 <Lizz> tho.. how many servers does one need? o.o
06:24 <BabyBug> need? 0!
06:24 <Lizz> lol
06:24 <Lizz> i keep adding ones and rotating them around lol
06:26 <BabyBug> lol well gl! I'm off back to bed \o/
06:26 <Lizz> nite ty for ur help and swet dreams :D
06:26 <Lizz> er
06:26 <Lizz> sweet .. damn typo demon >.>
06:29 <BabyBug> lol night hunni!
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06:48 <noob_saibot> i didnt leave bug
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07:19 <noob_saibot> #night
07:19 <@armabot> Good night noob_saibot!
07:19 <noob_saibot> goodnight armabot
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07:59 <@armabot> lpbugs: [316271] Server crash if players obtain more than 1 Flag in CTF
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10:02 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8797 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build/ (. scripts/winsrc): Manuel Moos: Fixed warnings by find.
10:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8798 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build/ (. scripts/configure): Manuel Moos: Fixed configure path.
10:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8799 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. build/scripts/configure build/scripts/winsrc): (log message trimmed)
10:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8792 to 8798:
10:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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10:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Fixed configure path.
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10:44 <z-man> Lucifer: are you around?
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10:46 * z-man requests permission to build alpha2.1 for Windows, with the fix for the string filter bug.
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11:01 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-build-work] r154 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8792 to 8798:... || [0.2.8-build-work] r29 Fixed configure path.... || [0.2.8-build-work] r28 Fixed warnings by find....
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11:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
11:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
11:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Bumping version to alpha_2.1 for fixed windows...
11:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8801 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/:
11:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
11:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: Not merging from 0.3.1 because version script is the new stuff here:
11:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Fix to last commit, forgot quotes.
11:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Adapted call to version script to old versio...
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12:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
12:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
12:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Fixed flashing of teamname between rounds if s...
12:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Got rid of sn_programVersion, replaced with ...
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12:46 <zmanuel> #m Lucifer Forget about alpha2.1, there were enough other fixes already to build alpha3 whenever you're ready.
12:46 <@armabot> zmanuel: The operation succeeded.
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12:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
12:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
12:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Removed obsolete/unused source files.
12:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 More adaptions to new version variables.
12:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Fixed output.
12:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Hopefully adapted to new version stuff.
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13:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8805 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. win32/makedist.bat):
13:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
13:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
13:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-12 Copying documentation files.
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13:10 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r778 Merging from 0.3.1:... || [0.3.1] r784 Copying documentation files.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r777 Merging from 0.3.1:... || [0.3.1] r783 Removed obsolete/unused source files.... || [0.3.1] r782 More adaptions to new version variables.... || [trunk-build-work] r155 Re-Added windows specific stuff to tTrueVersion.h.... || [0.3.1] r781 Fixed output....
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14:35 <madmax> zmanuel: is the output of '/players' supposed to be different to the one of 'players' in the console?
14:36 <zmanuel> slightly, yes, I guess.
14:36 <zmanuel> Definitely if you enter PLAYERS on your client's console.
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15:17 <BabyBug> see if it stays out...
15:17 <@armabot> lpbugs: [316377] Freezer in tStatFile::flushWrites() after hosting hybrid game || [316374] Local players have no names in hybrid hosted games
15:20 <zmanuel> I sure hope so.
15:20 <BabyBug> =D
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15:20 <BabyBug> ....]
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15:21 <BabyBug> guru3, Lucifer, PING!
15:22 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: it's like this on #debian and #freenode also
15:24 <zmanuel> I bet they're equally happy there.
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15:24 <PinkTomato> ivantis3: quit
15:24 <BabyBug> who's the third person with ops in here?
15:24 <PinkTomato> ivantis3: help
15:25 <ivantis3> Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
15:25 <ivantis3> (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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15:25 <PinkTomato> haha, thought it was a bot
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15:26 <BabyBug> :D
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15:27 <PinkTomato> :)
15:27 <@guru3> that was a lot of reconnecting
15:27 <BabyBug> you took your time ><
15:27 * BabyBug runs
15:27 <@guru3> only just noticed the highlight
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15:28 <BabyBug> ^^
15:28 <PinkTomato> why is it getting kicked like that in the first place Oo
15:28 <guru3> probably sending too many messages to the server
15:29 <PinkTomato> ah
15:29 <guru3> or something is screwing up internally
15:30 <zmanuel> guru3: I assigned you a bug on launchpad, your first :)
15:30 <guru3> uh ohs
15:32 <guru3> what does "freezer in" mean?
15:32 <guru3> that it causes the game to freeze?
15:33 <zmanuel> yep.
15:33 <zmanuel> either an endless loop or a blocking io.
15:33 <guru3> oops
15:34 <zmanuel> It MAY be caused by the name fuckup, all players have empty names. That may confuse the stats system.
15:35 <guru3> empty names as long as they aren't null should be fine
15:35 <PinkTomato> I think they are null
15:35 <zmanuel> I don't think NULL names are possible on the trunk.
15:37 <PinkTomato> ah, I should have said they appear null to the users :)
15:38 <guru3> the whole stat system might not be getting initialzed properly for a local game
15:38 <zmanuel> local, non-networked games seem to be fine.
15:38 <zmanuel> It's the hosted network games that cause trouble.
15:40 <guru3> hmmm
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15:44 <guru3> anywho, i'm afk for a lil bit
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16:05 <i2020> breep
16:11 <Lucifer> broop
16:12 <BabyBug> Lucifer!
16:12 <Lucifer> BabyBug!
16:13 <BabyBug> phail
16:14 <i2020> hi luci, babs
16:14 <BabyBug> hellu
16:14 <ct|kyle> BabyBug:
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16:28 <BabyBug> ct|kyle,
16:30 <zmanuel> Great. Updated kubuntu and now arma only runs at 30 fps. It SHOWS 60 fps just fine, but I'm not fooled by that.
16:30 <zmanuel> And it's going to be a while before I warm up to KDE 4.
16:30 <BabyBug> you're fooled by you're own ignorance zmanuel!
16:31 <zmanuel> What's next? The 24 images per second lie?
16:33 <Lizmatic> your*, BabyBug
16:33 <Lucifer> aha!
16:33 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: no, that was the right "you're" for the sentence....
16:34 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, you phail
16:34 <Lizmatic> second your
16:34 <Lizmatic> "you're own ignorance"
16:34 <Lucifer> oh, heh
16:34 <BabyBug> oh
16:34 <Lizmatic> it's supposed to be your*
16:34 <BabyBug> i fail
16:34 <Lizmatic> so you both fail
16:34 <Lizmatic> LOL
16:34 <Lucifer> heh
16:34 <BabyBug> crap...
16:34 <Lizmatic> xD!
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16:35 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, just for that you're gonna be teased tonight! ;)
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16:48 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: now look what you did, you made z-man leave just when i was going to ask him something
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18:22 <epsy> is MWLMMSN down for you?
18:22 <luke-jr> wtf?
18:22 <epsy> MSN for short
18:23 <luke-jr> I wouldn't know, I don't use it.
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18:27 <PinkTomato> epsy: MSN was down from about 1am to 11am for me
18:28 <epsy> hell, you see everything
18:28 <luke-jr> ……..
18:28 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
18:28 <epsy> maybe he knows what i've just been doing
18:29 <PinkTomato> :P
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18:38 <madmax> epsy: problem with libpurple and MSN servers
18:39 <epsy> grmpf, again?
18:40 <epsy> linky?
18:42 <epsy> « Why do you use Pidgin? » « Because it's the only client I can install »
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18:47 <K-Yo> epsy, MSN running fine here
18:50 <madmax> the topic in #adium/#pidgin for the last hours has been MSN heh
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19:33 <ct|kyle> #g 9!
19:33 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 9 ! = 362,880
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19:50 <zmanuel> Oh great, now my XBox Pad acts as mouse input.
19:54 <zmanuel> Luckily, that's one of the known and easily fixed problems :)
19:54 <epsy> ttimo @ id sez quakelive may not be released for linux & mac :(
20:01 <Lizmatic> epsy, how can I remove my team from tst site?
20:02 <epsy> basically, ask me
20:04 <epsy> Lizmatic, you & flex, right?
20:04 <Flex> remember to tell appa i'm not coming
20:05 <Flex> oh and i quit x
20:05 <epsy> coming to what?
20:05 <epsy> can you post something about this?
20:06 <Flex> she can explain
20:06 <epsy> I don't want a whole explanation, just you saying you leave
20:07 <zmanuel> Flex: you'll need to rename to Fle, then :)
20:07 <epsy> yeah, we are forbidding the use of the latter x
20:07 <epsy> letter*
20:07 <Lizmatic> epsy, yes
20:08 <epsy> Lizmatic, are you going to play with someone else?
20:08 <epsy> you or flex?
20:08 <Lizmatic> yes, with BabyBug
20:09 <epsy> ok, I'll hurry then
20:09 <Lizmatic> :)
20:09 <Lizmatic> ty
20:10 <Flex> i posted
20:10 <Flex> fu lisa :)
20:10 <epsy> Lizmatic: done
20:13 <Lizmatic> thanks epsy
20:37 <Flex> finally free of this bullshit, thank god
20:40 <Lizmatic> Flex, itd help if you stopped throwing a tantrum in public
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20:43 <BabyBug> woooo another day with some arma drama :o hey that rhymes!
20:44 <epsy> oh so that's why
20:45 <epsy> @as
20:45 <teabot> epsy: This data is 36 seconds old; Fortress Café (14/32), Wild West =Sumo= (9/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (9/12), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (7/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (6/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (5/10), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (5/16), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (4/10), ~*SpeederS*~ Server (3/12), The YELLOW Submarine (3/12), Crazy Tronners Wild (1 more message)
20:45 <PinkTomato> is that all the tron drama done with? I hope so
20:46 <BabyBug> probably not PinkTomato, Flex's man period will be over in a week...and then start again in a month
20:46 <BabyBug> =P
20:47 <Lizmatic> BabyBug & BabyLuv r gunna win TST
20:47 <Lizmatic> o/
20:48 <BabyBug> \o/
20:48 <PinkTomato> :), best of luck to you both :)
20:48 <Lizmatic> :D
20:50 <madmax> (pidgin/adium msn seems to be working again if anyone's interested)
20:50 <BabyBug> oo yay!
20:50 <BabyBug> that was annoying ><
20:50 * PinkTomato agrees
20:51 <Lizmatic> aMsn ftw :<
20:51 <PinkTomato> anyone know what it was?
20:51 <PinkTomato> actually I wouldn't understand,
20:51 <BabyBug> something to do with libpurple! that's been fixed without an update to libpurple!
20:52 <PinkTomato> somehow! woo! :D
20:52 <BabyBug> there is actually a bug reported on pidgins site...
20:52 <BabyBug> but it's down ><
20:53 <PinkTomato> so it is
20:53 <PinkTomato> odd
20:54 <madmax> it was a server side issue apparently, the adium guys were rushing for a fix, but it wasn't needed after all
20:54 <BabyBug> lol
20:55 <madmax> someone actually put up a build with a workaround though lol
20:56 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8806 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. batch/make/version): Daniel Lee Harple: Added bzr_count_revisions(), and made it work with bsd tool chains.
20:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8807 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. batch/make/version): Daniel Lee Harple: Simplified sed expression to work with bsd sed
20:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8808 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. batch/make/version): Daniel Lee Harple: Use bzr_count_revisions(). Working on bug #314784
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21:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/Race/Cherrio-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
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21:34 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r781 Use bzr_count_revisions(). Working on bug #314784... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r780 Simplified sed expression to work with bsd sed... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r779 Added bzr_count_revisions(), and made it work with bsd tool ...
21:46 <BabyBug> http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10138388-2.html?tag=rtcol;newsNow
21:46 <BabyBug> \o/
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21:48 <PinkTomato> \o/
21:48 <PinkTomato> (I don't think I will use it though)
21:48 <madmax> chrome is just a hype :9
21:48 <BabyBug> madmax, you're a hype
21:48 <BabyBug> firefox on linux..really..sucks..
21:49 <BabyBug> chrome all the way \o/
21:49 <akira_arma> chrome is rather evil
21:49 <madmax> yeah, here too, opera all the way
21:49 <akira_arma> google is creating a worldwide AI btw
21:49 <madmax> I don't I'll sucumb to google's monopoly on that one
21:49 <PinkTomato> ...but Firefox on linux works the same to me on Windows....
21:49 <BabyBug> it's slower on linux
21:50 <BabyBug> or it is in my experience
21:50 <akira_arma> and i am not into an AI absed on huamn search/internet behviour
21:50 <akira_arma> based*
21:50 <PinkTomato> I don't really notice speed difference
21:50 <akira_arma> me niether
21:50 <PinkTomato> It leaks memory though, 310MB and counting.
21:51 <BabyBug> firefox also has scrolling issues on some websites..
21:51 <Flex> madmax, Luzifer made a post in your team section
21:51 <Flex> check it out
21:51 <BabyBug> where the scrolling is really really jittery
21:51 <MaZuffeR> yep, the scrolling thing is annoying
21:52 <PinkTomato> example?
21:52 <BabyBug> facebook is a site which does it i think
21:52 <BabyBug> (it only happens when smooth scrolling is turned on)
21:52 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Firefox is terrible
21:52 <BabyBug> but it sucks scrolling on any site when it's turned off
21:52 * Lizmatic uses Safari =x
21:52 <PinkTomato> Facebook is being a pain as usual
21:52 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i know...thank you for agreeing
21:53 <Lizmatic> you people are nerds though
21:53 <Lizmatic> pff
21:53 * ct|kyle is working on switching to opera
21:53 * BabyBug nerdifies Lizmatic
21:53 <epsy> extension support? now that's neat
21:53 <epsy> bbl
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21:53 <BabyBug> >< lol
21:53 <PinkTomato> Ouch, I hate smooth scrolling ><
21:53 <PinkTomato> putting it back to normal
21:54 <BabyBug> smooth scrolling in windows is nice though
21:54 <Lizmatic> who cares about scrolling
21:55 <PinkTomato> People that read long articles ^^
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21:56 * BabyBug growls
21:56 <Lizmatic> BabyBug got pwned by her internets
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22:16 <PinkTomato> #sd -v Racing II
22:16 <@armabot> PinkTomato: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “racing ii” at the moment, sorry.
22:17 <BabyBug> phail
22:22 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8809 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/tron/gParser.cpp): Manuel Moos: Added check for map version.
22:23 <PinkTomato> #sd -v Racing II
22:24 <BabyBug> phail
22:24 <PinkTomato> double fail, armabot is embrassed to talk to me now
22:24 <BabyBug> #ping
22:24 <@armabot> pong
22:25 <BabyBug> lol
22:25 <PinkTomato> #ping ?
22:25 <@armabot> pong
22:25 <PinkTomato> #sd -v Racing II
22:26 <PinkTomato> Its taunting me now, I'll just use the server browser online
22:26 <BabyBug> #sd -v Racing II
22:26 <@armabot> BabyBug: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (67.222.143.161:4540) running 0.2.8_alpha20081214 unix dedicated, url: http://www.DeliciousDesserts.co.nr, Description: “There are currently 12 maps in rotation. Come race with us, it's whoever gets to the finish line wins! Good speed racing, different views, fun people, and many maps. Some maps have different axes.“, Players (0/14):
22:26 <BabyBug> LOL
22:27 <BabyBug> unlucky PinkTomato :P
22:27 <PinkTomato> -.-, hehe, thanks BabyBug :)
22:32 <BabyBug> =)
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22:32 <BabyBug> \o/
22:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r783 Don't use branch nick for major version. Use major_version f... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r782 Updated versioning on OS X. Build system still needs to be u... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r978 Added check for map version....
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22:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8810 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Daniel Lee Harple: Updated versioning on OS X. Build system still needs to be updated to work with release sources
22:42 <BabyBug> who's daniel lee harple?
22:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8811 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. batch/make/version): Daniel Lee Harple: Don't use branch nick for major version. Use major_version file.
22:44 <PinkTomato> AUTHORS says its nemostultae
22:44 <BabyBug> and who's that? lol
22:45 <PinkTomato> I have no idea either :)
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22:52 <luke-jr> ROFL
22:52 <madmax> it's "that OS X guy", dlh (©guru3)
22:52 <luke-jr> nemo does OS X stuff
22:53 <PinkTomato> ah dlh, I know dlh
22:53 <PinkTomato> :)
22:53 <luke-jr> Daniel Lee Harple
22:53 <luke-jr> D.L.H.
22:53 <BabyBug> ohhhhh
22:53 <BabyBug> =x
22:54 <BabyBug> that makes sense now!
22:54 <MaZuffeR> he plays as free kill, you've probably seen him play fortress too
22:56 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8812 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. batch/make/sortresources.py): Daniel Lee Harple: import armabuild.resource
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23:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8813 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/tron/gParser.cpp): Manuel Moos: Ignoring map version again.
23:03 <BabyBug> he sleep joins!
23:05 -!- noob_saibot [i=4570961f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-437e1f356fb261ab] has joined #armagetron
23:07 <Lizmatic> noob_saibot, stop hitting on my woman kkthxbye :P
23:09 <noob_saibot> hey Liz
23:09 <noob_saibot> i only hit on her when you dont respond to me
23:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
23:09 * BabyBug castrates noob_saibot
23:09 <BabyBug> guru3, no!
23:10 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!*@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] by guru3
23:10 <BabyBug> nuuu :'(
23:10 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o guru3] by guru3
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23:10 <noob_saibot> castrates?!
23:10 <ivantis2> ?
23:10 <BabyBug> yes noob_saibot, castrates
23:10 <noob_saibot> you must have a bigger vocab then me lolz
23:10 <ivantis2> castrates?! wuzitat?
23:11 <BabyBug> hrmm...google for a picture =)
23:12 <noob_saibot> nah not now
23:12 <noob_saibot> :D
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23:15 <Lizmatic> noob_saibot, do it again and i'll keel you! ;p
23:15 <K-Yo> castrates == not good at all
23:16 <noob_saibot> oh well
23:16 <noob_saibot> sall good
23:16 <K-Yo> you get mika's voice rly fast
23:17 <noob_saibot> say what
23:18 <BabyBug> haha K-Yo =D
23:18 <K-Yo> :p
23:19 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, castration is when your balls get chopped off =P
23:19 <Lizmatic> Mika should die.
23:19 <K-Yo> can be hard times
23:19 <noob_saibot> LOL
23:19 <noob_saibot> i have balls of steel
23:19 <Lizmatic> steel is easily chopped through :p
23:20 <K-Yo> noob_saibot, of steel?
23:20 <K-Yo> http://www.kittigroup.com/industries/images/palletizing_plant.jpg
23:20 <noob_saibot> call me superman
23:21 <noob_saibot> liz i sent you nudey pics on msn go check
23:21 <Lizmatic> http://www.xtremesled.com/newtemplate/catalog/images/balls%20of%20steel%20hood%20sized%20copy.jpg
23:21 <Lizmatic> those yours nicky?
23:23 <noob_saibot> yea
23:23 <noob_saibot> the ones i sent you are more graphic
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23:24 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, she prefers my naughty pics =P
23:24 <ct|kyle> oi smoothice, do you have it working yet?
23:24 <smoothice> nope
23:24 <smoothice> I think I've given up lol
23:24 <ct|kyle> lol
23:25 <PinkTomato> Oh is this VPS arma server?
23:25 <noob_saibot> no she prefers mine
23:25 <ivantis2> given up what?
23:25 <noob_saibot> and my muscular body
23:25 <ivantis2> never give up
23:25 <ct|kyle> smoothice: it's gotta be something stupid
23:25 <smoothice> yeah
23:26 <PinkTomato> whats the problem?
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23:26 <Lizmatic> pff nicky you don't use your own pics, you sent bodybuilder ones!
23:26 <Lizmatic> xD
23:26 <noob_saibot> im a bodybuilder in progress
23:27 <noob_saibot> on my way
23:27 <ct|kyle> smoothice: why don't you add a tee -a <somefile> between the parser and tron
23:28 <ivantis2> someone message me im bored: Yahoo: ivantis; Gmail/google talk: ivantis3@gmail.com; AIM: ivantis2
23:28 <smoothice> ivantis2: stalker
23:29 <Lizmatic> show a realllll pic!
23:29 <ivantis2> someone send me a message, i want to test the clients on my phone
23:30 <noob_saibot> check your ******ing msn lizzy
23:30 <K-Yo> ivantis2, you suck
23:30 <ct|kyle> #kick ivantis2
23:30 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:30 <ivantis2> smoothice, AIM? Yahoo? something?
23:30 <smoothice> ivantis2: stalker
23:31 <smoothice> ivantis2: heck no
23:31 <BabyBug> ivantis2, do you have no friends you can talk to on there?
23:31 <ivantis2> i just signed up
23:32 <BabyBug> mwhahaha ct|kyle you can't kick =P
23:32 <ct|kyle> #whoami
23:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: I don't recognize you.
23:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: :P
23:35 <K-Yo> #xhoami
23:35 <K-Yo> #whoami
23:35 <@armabot> K-Yo: K-Yo
23:35 <@armabot> lpbugs: [316554] Camview widgets don't work on old-glancing
23:35 <BabyBug> #whoami
23:35 <K-Yo> :)
23:35 <@armabot> BabyBug: BabyBug
23:35 <BabyBug> :D
23:35 <K-Yo> #kick ivantis2
23:35 <@armabot> K-Yo: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:35 <K-Yo> argh
23:35 <ivantis2> #whoami
23:35 <@armabot> ivantis2: I don't recognize you.
23:35 <K-Yo> taht's a shame
23:35 <noob_saibot> /kick babybug
23:36 <ivantis2> #whoami
23:36 <@armabot> ivantis2: I don't recognize you.
23:36 <ivantis2> #alias whoami
23:36 <BabyBug> #kick noob_saibot Nice try..... (this will so get taken away from me after this) =(
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23:36 <@armabot> ivantis2: ivantis2
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23:36 <BabyBug> xD
23:36 <K-Yo> hahahaha
23:37 <K-Yo> lol BabyBug
23:37 <BabyBug> ^^
23:37 <K-Yo> #whois BabyBug
23:37 <K-Yo> #capabilities BabyBug
23:37 <@armabot> K-Yo: Error: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.
23:37 <K-Yo> oh?
23:37 <K-Yo> #capabilities
23:37 <ct|kyle> #capabilities list BabyBug
23:37 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:38 <ct|kyle> LOL i forget my password
23:38 <ct|kyle> :/
23:38 <Lizmatic> BabyBug has power? mmm
23:38 * Lizmatic turned on
23:38 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, try kyorocks
23:38 <ivantis2> you know what i think: like in courts, people are innocent until proven guilty, people in IRC should be op until proven they are idiots who couldn't use that power correctly
23:38 <PinkTomato> #capablilities
23:38 <ivantis2> good idea huh?
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23:38 <BabyBug> yay you came back
23:38 <BabyBug> LOL
23:38 <Lizmatic> bahahaha
23:38 <noob_saibot> yeah i wasnt gona
23:38 <noob_saibot> i couldnt resist
23:38 <Lizmatic> let her have it nick!
23:39 <@armabot> armacommits: [old-glancing] r747 Merge with trunk... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r979 Ignoring map version again.... || [old-glancing] import armabuild.resource || [old-glancing] Don't use branch nick for major version. Use major_version f... || [old-glancing] Updated versioning on OS X. Build system still needs to be u... || [old-glancing] Use bzr_count_revisions(). Working on bug #314784... || [old-glancing] Simplified sed expre
23:39 <noob_saibot> if you EVEER kick me again........
23:39 <ct|kyle> just face it noob_saibot you are addicted to BabyBug
23:39 <noob_saibot> im talking to you babybug..............
23:39 <PinkTomato> #kick PinkTomato
23:39 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
23:39 <BabyBug> lol noob_saibot ...so scary xD
23:39 <noob_saibot> addicted nooo
23:39 <ivantis2> bug 3141
23:39 <noob_saibot> i will come to Whales.................
23:39 <ivantis2> ??
23:39 <noob_saibot> im not finished yet
23:39 <ivantis2> no bugbot here?
23:39 <teabot> ivantis2: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out
23:40 <ivantis2> oh
23:40 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, good luck finding "Whales" on a map...
23:40 <noob_saibot> listen us Americans are the smartest race
23:40 <ivantis2> i see one in the ocean
23:40 <noob_saibot> i can find anything on the map
23:40 <ct|kyle> #google maps Whales, UK
23:40 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.19 seconds: Global project maps whale shark numbers - Telegraph: <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/3320726/Global-project-maps-whale-shark-numbers.html>; Sea Watch Foundation - Welcome: <http://www.seawatchfoundation.org.uk/>; BBC - Nature UK - Map for whales (minke): <http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/nature/uk/geolocatable/records/tagged/whales%20(minke)>; Whales (3 more messages)
23:40 <PinkTomato> I wonder if you can ride a whale.
23:40 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, of course you can...Ever seen Free Willy? =)
23:40 <ct|kyle> the bbc one
23:40 <ivantis2> with a seatbelt
23:40 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I haven't. :)
23:41 <Lizmatic> americans cant even point out the north pole
23:41 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, it's about a boy who rides a whale lol
23:41 <PinkTomato> Hehe, :P
23:41 * noob_saibot can be your'e American boy! American boy!
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23:42 <ivantis2> it was snowing for like 7 minutes. now it stopped
23:42 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
23:42 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 36.9°F (4:42 PM CST on January 12, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 10 PM CST this evening...
23:42 <PinkTomato> #weather wales
23:42 <ivantis2> light rain? noob that is snow
23:42 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
23:42 <PinkTomato> armabot hates me...
23:42 <ivantis2> #weather Wales UK
23:42 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Sheffield, United Kingdom is 45.0°F (10:42 PM GMT on January 12, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 41.0°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Steady).
23:43 <PinkTomato> LOL
23:43 <BabyBug> That is so not Wales
23:43 <noob_saibot> Whales*
23:43 <ivantis2> its Whales
23:43 <noob_saibot> yup
23:43 <ivantis2> #weather Whales UK
23:43 <@armabot> ivantis2: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
23:43 <smoothice> #weather 0sdf
23:43 <PinkTomato> Its only out be 100 miles.
23:43 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
23:43 <noob_saibot> #whether Whales Afrika
23:44 <noob_saibot> wtf
23:44 <smoothice> #help Weather
23:44 <ivantis2> i guess they dont have weather in Whales
23:44 <@armabot> smoothice: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
23:44 <noob_saibot> Is Whales a real country?
23:44 <smoothice> lol
23:44 <ivantis2> duh
23:44 <BabyBug> Wales is a real country. Whales are an animal
23:44 <ivantis2> its near halloween island
23:44 <noob_saibot> yeah I know wales are animals
23:44 <noob_saibot> they swim duh
23:45 <noob_saibot> i'm trying to find Whales but its not coming up
23:45 <madmax> >_>
23:45 <PinkTomato> It's in hampshire noob
23:45 <ivantis2> uh you didnt turn on special new continent search
23:45 <PinkTomato> Whales Island
23:45 <noob_saibot> in Afrika
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23:45 <PinkTomato> #weather Whales Island, UK
23:45 <noob_saibot> i know that Pink
23:46 <noob_saibot> #whether Whales, Aphrika
23:46 <ivantis2> they just discovered the continent America, containing Halloween Island and Whales
23:46 <PinkTomato> America has never been a continent
23:47 <Lizmatic> whales lmao
23:47 * noob_saibot can be your'e American boy! American boy!
23:47 <Lizmatic> YOUR*
23:47 <ivantis2> until recently they discovered it
23:47 <noob_saibot> you are*
23:47 <PinkTomato> It's been N/S America
23:47 <ivantis2> like last week, you never heard about America? great new continent
23:47 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, you didn't even put the apostrophe in the right place
23:47 <Lizmatic> can be you are american boy?
23:47 <noob_saibot> jeez, ppl in here need to go to school and learn sunnin
23:47 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, he doesn't even what apostrophe iks
23:47 <Lizmatic> is*
23:47 <ivantis2> duh i know about north and south america, those are lame continents
23:47 <noob_saibot> Liz, you should have paid attention in class
23:47 <BabyBug> lol
23:48 <Lizmatic> um
23:48 <noob_saibot> stop hatin on me cuz im American iiite
23:48 <noob_saibot> your likely to get delt wit
23:48 <Lizmatic> sure, you can't help it...
23:48 <Lizmatic> its your parents fault :P
23:48 <noob_saibot> thanks
23:49 <ivantis2> noob_saibot, you are American? i didnt know that anyone was American, when they discovered the continent America it was uninhibited
23:49 <PinkTomato> isn't it more of europe's fault for going in there in the first place if you think of it like htat?
23:49 <noob_saibot> Yeah, it was empty
23:49 <Lizmatic> it's not our fault that the people who were left in america didn't evolve further
23:49 <Lizmatic> shit happens
23:50 <madmax> hah
23:50 <noob_saibot> i evolved into a beautiful young man
23:50 <noob_saibot> look at me
23:50 * noob_saibot looks in the mirror...
23:50 <noob_saibot> DAMN!!!
23:50 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, another bad point about you: You think you're being clever and funny when you're not =P (i told you i'd point em out)
23:50 <noob_saibot> :*
23:50 <ivantis2> man. i really hate how people have just started using "America" to refer to the United States. America is two continents, north and south, the US is on north
23:50 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, think some stabs at his looks are also appropriate now :D
23:50 <noob_saibot> i make myself laugh
23:51 <noob_saibot> if you cant laugh you cant live
23:51 <Lizmatic> ignorance is bless
23:51 <noob_saibot> bless you liz!
23:51 <noob_saibot> your talking like me now
23:51 <Lizmatic> you're*
23:51 <noob_saibot> i rub off on yall well i guess
23:52 <noob_saibot> lolz
23:52 <noob_saibot> i'm an engineer i dont have to spell good
23:52 <madmax> that's pure BS
23:52 <Lizmatic> doesn't mean you have to be analphabetic either
23:53 <ivantis2> i'm in the spelling bee at school i just remembered. i need to practice spelling well
23:53 <noob_saibot> stop playa hatin on me
23:54 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, the only thing you're playing is your own stupidity
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23:56 <noob_saibot> lolz
23:56 <noob_saibot> it gets a rise outta you so i did my job
23:58 * Lizmatic cuddles BabyBug
23:59 * BabyBug cuddles and smooches Lizmatic
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00:00 <BabyBug> you can't jump in biatch!
00:00 <noob_saibot> i just did
00:00 <BabyBug> liar
00:01 <noob_saibot> not lying, i did just jump in
00:02 <BabyBug> liar
00:02 <noob_saibot> no!
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00:11 <noob_saibot> ite im outty
00:11 <noob_saibot> time to go pump some iron
00:11 <noob_saibot> catch you on the flip side
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01:21 <madmax> http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/eng/989464357.html
01:22 <ivantis2> yeah?
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01:25 <madmax> does the guy *not* look crazy? (or at least disconnected from reality)
01:26 <BabyBug> anyone who uses caps are crazy
01:30 <ivantis2> UH NO
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02:16 <BabyBug> why are you trying to be a body builder...
02:19 <noob_saibot> lol not necessarily a body builder
02:19 <noob_saibot> just good shape
02:19 <noob_saibot> :P
02:20 <BabyBug> #list
02:20 <@armabot> BabyBug: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
02:20 <BabyBug> #seen hoax
02:20 <@armabot> BabyBug: hoax was last seen in #armagetron 3 days, 1 hour, 29 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <Hoax> peps as in epsy ;/
02:21 <noob_saibot> whats with you and all these codes you nerd
02:21 <BabyBug> hrrmm?
02:21 <noob_saibot> uhh nevermind
02:21 <noob_saibot> nothin!
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02:41 <BabyBug> soooooooooo quiet
02:42 <noob_saibot> yup
02:42 <noob_saibot> .............
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09:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8814 /armagetronad/trunk/build/ (. package/default.apspec): (log message trimmed)
09:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
09:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: Added to dependencies:
09:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: freetype
09:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: sdl_mixer
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09:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: GLEW
09:12 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-build-work] r156 Added to dependencies:... || [0.3.1] r787 Fixing build from tarball....
09:27 <Lucifer> well, I finally posted a personal ad on the internet looking for a woman
09:27 <Lucifer> http://austin.craigslist.org/m4w/990784906.html
09:31 <BabyBug> LOL Lucifer
09:32 <BabyBug> Lucifer, what if i'm agnostic?
09:32 <Lucifer> that's just an atheist who wants to go to heaven
09:32 <Lucifer> so, no
09:32 <Lucifer> you're talking to the wrong person :)
09:34 <BabyBug> ...
09:34 <BabyBug> an agnostic is not an atheist who wants to go to heaven........ ><
09:35 <Lucifer> in my experience, people say they're agnostic because they don't want to suffer the discrimination atheists suffer
09:35 <Lucifer> that may not be true for you, not only do I not know, but you're in a completely different country, and that makes a difference
09:35 <BabyBug> i could move!
09:36 <Lucifer> in any case, as far as Americans and my experience goes, I don't want to be with someone who doesn't feel strongly enough about not having a religion that they try to use a label that's considered more acceptable to society
09:37 <BabyBug> Who's picard?
09:37 <Lucifer> Captain Picard of the starship Enterprise
09:39 <BabyBug> ohs..
09:39 <BabyBug> how come you never put your age on there..
09:40 <Lucifer> Are you an atheist who's tired of people filtering you for it? - 34 (NW Austin) <--- title of the ad
09:40 <BabyBug> Ohs, i thought that was a quote from chapter 34 of the book NW Austin =x
09:41 <BabyBug> my bad
09:41 <Lucifer> heh
09:42 <Lucifer> I should edit the post and add something
09:42 <Lucifer> "You should have an education, whether you pursued it on your own or went and got a Real Degree. I don't want to have to limit myself to an eighth grade vocabulary."
09:44 <BabyBug> what if....i don't have an education but i will have a qualification when i start working again?
09:44 <Lucifer> long as I don't have to limit my vocabulary, I don't really care what level of education you have
09:44 <BabyBug> ahhh wonderful :D
09:44 <Lucifer> mind you, I had a graduate level vocabulary and grammar when I finished high school ;)
09:45 <BabyBug> I got thrown out of school for setting my physics' teachers shirt on fire =(
09:46 <Lucifer> no, you got thrown out of school for admitting you did it to see his nipples
09:46 <BabyBug> ewwwwww no he was 65!
09:46 * Lucifer is feeling slightly combative
09:46 <Lucifer> oh crap, I learned a slur for welsh people, and now I've forgotten it
09:46 <Lucifer> I was going to test it on you ;)
09:46 <BabyBug> ...
09:47 <BabyBug> lmao
09:47 <BabyBug> what was the english form of it?
09:47 <Lucifer> I only remember it started with a T, and rhymed with a slur used for the Irish
09:48 <BabyBug> Oh erm...Isn't it a star sign, not a sun sign? (are you going to come back with the arguement that the sun is a star)
09:48 <Lucifer> I have to admit, the only british slur I'm familiar with is "wog", and that's anybody that's not english
09:48 <Lucifer> no, it's a sun sign, it's not a star sign
09:48 <Lucifer> you're right that technically the sun is a star, however it's all about where the sun is in relation to the constellations,
09:49 <Lucifer> and astrologers that actually believe that shit don't see that the sun is a star and the constellations are made of stars
09:49 <Lucifer> and that whatever force they're talking about is probably an inverse-square law anyway
09:49 <BabyBug> ok now you've lost me completely
09:49 <Lucifer> lost you how?
09:49 <Lucifer> ask luke-jr (hi there!) about the firmament
09:50 <Lucifer> and recall that astrology was developed originally under a believe in the firmament
09:50 <BabyBug> i've always known them to be called star signs :s
09:50 <Lucifer> *belief
09:50 <Lucifer> bad translation, or cultural difference, then
09:51 <BabyBug> maybe a bad translation =)
09:51 <BabyBug> My english isn't perfect ^^
09:51 <Lucifer> nobody can tell english was a second language for you ;)
09:51 <Lucifer> at least, not here on the internet. I've not idea what your spoken accent is like
09:51 <Lucifer> s/not/no
09:51 <BabyBug> why did you wink at the end of that sentence? lol
09:52 <BabyBug> And if i'm not talking to a welsh person, i sound english.
09:52 <Lucifer> oh yeah, I should edit the post to ask for a woman that understands regular expressions used in a conversational context
09:52 <BabyBug> it's a weird natural thing that my voice does..
09:52 <BabyBug> my welsh accent sort of...turns off =x
09:52 <Lucifer> heh
09:52 <Lucifer> when I talk to someone with a strong mexican accent, I adopt the accent too
09:53 <Lucifer> I've got several accents stored up that come out under weird circumstances
09:53 <BabyBug> lol ^^
09:54 <BabyBug> Kids are soooo not baggage \o/
09:56 <Lucifer> no, they're not, but I think that if a woman is in a hurry to introduce me to her kids, then she's not got her head on straight enough for me
09:56 <zmanuel> Not wanting to discourage Lucifer, but I read an article about the response volume to personal ads on craigslist. 'twas quite devastating for men.
09:56 <Lucifer> even if the kids like me, the last thing I want is for them to get attached to me, and then I don't really like their mother
09:56 <Lucifer> zmanuel: I was hoping to generate hate mail, actually
09:57 <zmanuel> (I think it was about "just want sex" ads, so really, no worries)
09:57 <Lucifer> it's been a long time since I've gotten hate mail
09:57 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you could just ask for that you know =P
09:57 <zmanuel> Not trolling enough?
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09:57 <Lucifer> man, I don't think I've trolled at all in months
09:57 * Lucifer considers trolling the forums
09:58 <Lucifer> maybe I should finally go to the SP site and troll them directly?
09:58 <BabyBug> what's trolling?
09:58 <zmanuel> Perhaps. Be sure to post links!
09:58 <Lucifer> heh, that post was trolling ;)
09:58 <BabyBug> ...i don't get it =x
09:58 <Lucifer> it used to be that everytime Psyko posted, I trolled him
09:59 <zmanuel> BabyBug: trolling is posting stuff just to get a heated reaction of any kind
09:59 <Lucifer> trolling is posting something just to piss people and draw a response for it
09:59 <BabyBug> ohs i see
09:59 <BabyBug> soooo....just being a dick basically...?
09:59 <Lucifer> see, if you want to be an arma developer, you have to have at least one good troll on the forums
09:59 <Lucifer> well, not exactly
09:59 <Lucifer> to be a really good troll, you can't look like you're trolling
10:00 <Lucifer> so your post has to look perfectly innocent, but be posted to get the heated reaction, and get it successfully
10:00 <BabyBug> then "good trolls" have far far too much free time.......
10:01 <Lucifer> nah, that's not necessarily a given
10:01 <BabyBug> a what?
10:01 <Lucifer> but now that I Think about it, I think the only arma developers that haven't trolled are guru3 and wrtlprnft
10:01 <Lucifer> a given. math word, beware!
10:02 <BabyBug> ...
10:02 <BabyBug> i was good at math! (sort of) and never once came across that word
10:02 <Lucifer> er wait, I think there's a cultural thing there too
10:02 <Lucifer> zmanuel: help me out here, how do you europeans talk? ;)
10:03 <BabyBug> *face palms*
10:03 <Lucifer> for example, you have the formula F = ma
10:03 <Lucifer> "given that a=9.8m/s^2 and m=1kg, what is F?"
10:03 <zmanuel> a given == a requirement
10:03 <zmanuel> not exactly, but fits most of the time
10:03 <zmanuel> can also mean input
10:03 <BabyBug> oh i get it now
10:04 <BabyBug> although Lucifer, you could of picked a slightly simpler formula :P
10:04 <BabyBug> or rather, simpler values
10:04 <Lucifer> ? that's 9.8 N
10:05 <BabyBug> you could of just said a = 1 and m = 2! :P
10:05 <Lucifer> or, actually, it's 10 N, since it's only 1 significant figure
10:06 <Lucifer> "could have" sounds like "could of", but isn't "could of" because "could of" doesn't make any sense
10:06 <Lucifer> sorry, I did mention I was feeling a tad belligerent, right?
10:06 <BabyBug> yes you did.. lol
10:07 <Lucifer> it's from, er, nvm
10:07 * zmanuel twitches everytime he reads 'could of'
10:07 <Lucifer> (keeping the channel clean)
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10:08 <BabyBug> 'could of' is perfectly fine!
10:08 <Lucifer> where's the noun in "of just said"?
10:09 <BabyBug> that's just not fair...
10:09 <BabyBug> I couldn't point out the noun in any sentence... lol
10:09 <z-man> grrr, seems kubuntu 8.10 ships with a broken gcc, at least if you upgrade
10:10 <BabyBug> z-man, it does?
10:10 <z-man> can't remember having the same issue with a fresh install in a virtual box
10:10 <Lucifer> http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/learnitv195.shtml
10:10 <BabyBug> i want to burn the language, stuff learning anymore of it
10:10 <BabyBug> =)
10:11 <BabyBug> and burn all the people too while i'm at it!
10:11 <Lucifer> no! Don't do that!
10:11 <BabyBug> english people suck
10:11 <Lucifer> just kill them in a normal way, so they can be pressed to get their oils to make biodiesel
10:11 <BabyBug> ...
10:11 <BabyBug> ><
10:11 <Lucifer> ok, I trolled a geology class towards the end of last semester, and that was fun
10:12 <z-man> Hey, don't make biodiesel out of perfectly fine food.
10:12 <BabyBug> you people are odd
10:14 <Lucifer> we are not odd
10:14 <Lucifer> we are eccentric!
10:14 <Lucifer> and z-man has a point
10:14 <BabyBug> eccentric people are odd people
10:15 <Lucifer> I'm going to have a hard time becoming a criminal mastermind if I'm going to have such moral dilemmas over whether to make biodiesel out of people, or to eat the people
10:15 <BabyBug> how about you split the group of people in 2?
10:15 <BabyBug> The fat people, and the non-fat people.
10:15 <BabyBug> Alot of fat on food is bad
10:16 <BabyBug> So use them people for the biodiesel
10:16 <Lucifer> hey, did you see that article about the doctor that was keeping the fat from liposuction and using it to power his car?
10:16 <BabyBug> i heard of it...
10:16 <Lucifer> I'm pretty sure I linked it here when I saw it
10:16 <BabyBug> didn't think it was true...
10:17 <Lucifer> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/surgeon-uses-human-fat-to-run-his-cars-1211431.html
10:17 <BabyBug> "Alan Bittner has been accused of removing too much fat from three patients"
10:17 <BabyBug> lmao
10:18 <BabyBug> on a new topic...Chrome will be available for linux by july \o/
10:18 <z-man> hooray.
10:19 <Lucifer> er, maybe I'm too old for this, but wtf is Chrome?
10:19 <BabyBug> Google Chrome.....
10:19 <BabyBug> the browser...
10:20 <BabyBug> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4221469/Remote-controlled-helicopter-flown-into-prison-for-drugs-drop.html
10:20 <BabyBug> Criminals are sooo running out of ideas...
10:21 <Lucifer> well, see, it's not really possible for our society to actually produce a master criminal
10:22 <Lucifer> it has to do with the forces that lead a person to crime in the first place, and/or the psychological conditions that lead a person to crime in the first place
10:22 <Lucifer> ignoring the psychological conditions for a moment...
10:22 <Lucifer> there's an extremely strong correlation between poverty and crime
10:22 <Lucifer> there's also an extermely strong correlation between poverty and low education
10:22 <z-man> what about mob bosses?
10:23 <Lucifer> but to be a criminal mastermind, you'd have to acquire a good, scientific education
10:23 <Lucifer> z-man: they're just MBAs practicing in the criminal underworld
10:23 <BabyBug> Lucifer, there's also an extremely strong correlation between the internet and lies!!
10:23 <z-man> Ah, you mean the build death ray to blackmail NYC kind of criminal .mastermind
10:23 <Lucifer> actually, the original mob bosses were highly motivated Italian immigrants, and they taught their sons and sent their sons to college
10:23 <Lucifer> yeah
10:24 <Lucifer> well, at least the criminal mastermind that's creative enough to come up with using remote controlled helicopters to get drugs into prison, but educated and competent enough to do it successfully
10:24 <BabyBug> http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=conWebDoc.23923 <--- Geeks obviously don't have enough work to do either.
10:24 <z-man> Hmm, here in Germany, we had the case ´Dagobert'
10:25 <z-man> (Dagobert is the name of Uncle Scrouge here)
10:25 <z-man> He blackmailed a big shopping mall chain
10:25 <z-man> and all his money transfer plans were taken from Duck Tales :)
10:25 <Lucifer> http://www.xkcd.com/237/ <--- clearly invented by someone who got pranked with this
10:26 <z-man> He build a small vehicle moving on a single train trail like a monorail
10:27 <z-man> or told them to deposit the money in a box and retireved it through a hole from below, from the sewers
10:27 <z-man> He did get quite a lot of media attention.
10:29 <Lucifer> holy crap, this guy was real!
10:30 <Lucifer> and here I was considering plotting my first act as a criminal mastermind, should I finally turn that way when the struggle is over
10:32 <Lucifer> (that was a joke, I see nobody laughing, so maybe it wasn't a funny joke)
10:34 <Lucifer> I'll probably get some hate mail if I rewrite my post to be a woman seeking a man and repost it there
10:40 <guru3_> Lucifer: assuming that
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14:53 <luke-jr> Lucifer: the firmament hasn't existed for like 4000 years
14:54 <luke-jr> assuming you mean the water canopy
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17:36 <K-Yo> #seen sagelord
17:36 <@armabot> K-Yo: sagelord was last seen in #armagetron 3 days, 20 hours, 41 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <SageLord> yo, whats up
17:37 * BabyBug prods K-Yo
17:37 <K-Yo> #m SageLord about brawl, Judders is out (he was in team 4)
17:37 <@armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
17:37 <K-Yo> oi BabyBug
17:37 <BabyBug> mwahahaha
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17:43 <freako5> hey all :)
17:43 <freako5> k-yo little question,,, are there some CT servers running from london? :P
17:44 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: the only arma developers that haven't trolled are guru3 and wrtlprnft ← maybe i should start doing that :-)
17:44 <K-Yo> freako5, hmmm mabye
17:44 <e_n_d_e_r> lol
17:44 <K-Yo> freako5, I'd say maybe flower
17:44 <K-Yo> and other eddie servers
17:44 <e_n_d_e_r> i thought they all were
17:44 <K-Yo> but I'm not even sure his aa vps is in the UK
17:44 <K-Yo> e_n_d_e_r, well, most of them are in germany
17:45 <e_n_d_e_r> ah i see
17:45 * e_n_d_e_r is a noob
17:45 <K-Yo> e_n_d_e_r, same host as café for some
17:45 <freako5> so flower maybe ? :)
17:45 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, no don't start ><
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17:45 <wrtlprnft> i don't even know where to start
17:46 <BabyBug> good
17:46 <BabyBug> don't learn
17:46 <e_n_d_e_r> hah
17:46 <wrtlprnft> although becoming more luke-jr-ish is tempting
17:46 <e_n_d_e_r> oh know!
17:46 <e_n_d_e_r> :D
17:46 <wrtlprnft> putting ideals in front of acutlly being helpful
17:46 <luke-jr> …
17:47 * wrtlprnft is mostly kidding
17:47 <luke-jr> no
17:47 <luke-jr> DO IT
17:47 <wrtlprnft> you were of great help when i was trying to set up my server
17:47 <luke-jr> :D
17:47 <freako5> luke-jr!
17:47 <luke-jr> omg
17:47 <freako5> i need to talk to u :)
17:47 * luke-jr hides
17:47 <freako5> its about an server :)
17:47 <luke-jr> :þ
17:48 <freako5> u can unhide now :)
17:48 <luke-jr> everyone ELSE knew I was j/k..
17:48 <wrtlprnft> did i?
17:48 <luke-jr> yes
17:48 <luke-jr> trust me, you did
17:49 <freako5> luke-jr: where is ur europe based hosting from?
17:49 <wrtlprnft> europe!
17:50 <freako5> ........funny!
17:50 <wrtlprnft> maybe i'm overshooing my goal of becoming luke-jr just a bit
17:50 <freako5> maybe :/
17:50 <luke-jr> lol
17:51 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft is right, though!
17:51 <freako5> -_-
17:51 <luke-jr> UK ☺
17:51 <freako5> nice, we have 2 luke-jrs now!
17:51 <freako5> london?
17:51 <K-Yo> freako5, why that?
17:51 <luke-jr> freako5: IIRC, yes
17:51 <freako5> we want, a somekind of flower power server :)
17:51 <luke-jr> :o
17:52 <luke-jr> who's going to water it?
17:52 <Lizmatic> flowerpower sux (sorry ed)
17:52 <freako5> somekind*
17:52 <luke-jr> …………..
17:52 <wrtlprnft> all the (or most of them, anyways) packets have to pass through the channel, anyways
17:52 <wrtlprnft> so there's plenty of water
17:52 <freako5> LOL!
17:53 <luke-jr> who wants KDE 4.2 RC1 leak?
17:53 <wrtlprnft> can't i just checkout svn?
17:53 <luke-jr> not if you want it to work with the ebuilds :þ
17:54 <wrtlprnft> true
17:54 <wrtlprnft> but i'm more likely to test it on my fedora machine, anyways
17:54 <PinkTomato> can an opensource software be leaked Oo
17:54 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: yes
17:54 <luke-jr> opensource != public
17:54 <freako5> watering the server isnt a real problem :)
17:55 <freako5> we only need 8 slots though
17:55 <luke-jr> but the flowers…. :/
17:55 <PinkTomato> Oh I see, you only need to release the code when you distrubte a binary? is that the license?
17:55 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: right
17:55 <wrtlprnft> you can run a hacked arma server without releasing the source code
17:55 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: ah gotcha :). wrtlprnft: I didn't know that Oo
17:56 <freako5> luke-jr: is it posibble ro run a sortoff flower power clone (a bit different) .. armahacktron :)
17:56 <luke-jr> freako5: why not?
17:56 <PinkTomato> Isn't it just map rotation ?
17:56 <wrtlprnft> no
17:56 <PinkTomato> Oh, there is that KILL thing, and extra stuff
17:56 <wrtlprnft> it's a script that processes the server's stdout
17:57 <freako5> we need to transport mostly
17:57 <freako5> :)
17:57 <PinkTomato> KILL, RESPAWN_PLAYER ?
17:57 <luke-jr> oh, I see
17:57 <wrtlprnft> armahacktron can't do all the teleport logic without external input
17:57 <luke-jr> freako5: you don't have the code?
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17:57 <PinkTomato> well I think the code is in sty+ct
17:57 * freako5 isnt using linux... as far as i know running hacked arma,,, is shit on windows
17:58 <apparition> i have an interview in an hour
17:58 <apparition> any advice?
17:58 <luke-jr> freako5: that's the case for runnign anything on Windows ☺
17:58 <PinkTomato> apparition: good luck!
17:58 <freako5> :)
17:58 <BabyBug> apparition, relax!
17:58 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: the code for flower?
17:58 <wrtlprnft> freako5: you can probably compile it on windows just as well as a vanilla 0.2.8 server
17:58 <apparition> :)
17:58 <BabyBug> gl though :D
17:58 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Oh, you meant the script :)
17:58 <PinkTomato> I don't no
17:59 <freako5> k-yooooo!
17:59 <freako5> k-yo:
17:59 <apparition> k-yo: freako has a question
17:59 <luke-jr> K-Yo: POKE
18:00 <wrtlprnft> ah, but since we're already at the topic of windows i might just as well start trolling
18:00 <wrtlprnft> WINDOWS 7 SUCKS!
18:00 <freako5> windows 7 is fuN!
18:00 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft fail
18:00 <BabyBug> /kick wrtlprnft
18:00 <wrtlprnft> (although most people in here will probably agree with me, so it's a bit boring)
18:00 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: Just 7⁇
18:01 <wrtlprnft> ≤ 7
18:01 <luke-jr> Windows sucks ever since 3.11
18:01 <wrtlprnft> use 3.10 then
18:01 <PinkTomato> Was windows 3.1 good then?
18:01 <K-Yo> freako5,
18:01 <K-Yo> apparition,
18:01 <luke-jr> yeah, 3.11 was OK
18:01 <K-Yo> luke-jr,
18:01 <PinkTomato> And you can't tell me windows 1 was OK
18:01 <luke-jr> K-Yo: STAB
18:01 <K-Yo> POKE BACK!
18:02 <wrtlprnft> windows sucked already when they were holes in the wall
18:02 <K-Yo> #si open su
18:02 <@armabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (9/12): -»|freako, -»|Xyrøn, Dude, fingerbib, H¦A¦ld, |x|Dimb, ~BoO!~<(^.^)>~, ¦évò¦, °öMhö
18:02 <PinkTomato> Hopefully a Quick Question: I'm running arma with "tail -n0 -f -s 0.01 ../path/to/cmds.txt | ../bin/armagetronad-dedicated --...", in a while loop, but it won't go past the line when it crashes, any advice please?
18:02 <K-Yo> what's -s?
18:02 <wrtlprnft> delay
18:02 <K-Yo> oh
18:02 <wrtlprnft> it has to check the file periodically
18:02 <wrtlprnft> guys, use inotail!
18:03 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft: I saw that today!
18:03 <freako5> only it sucks though :/
18:03 <freako5> where is the damned CT wiki whgen u need it -_-
18:03 <PinkTomato> I considered changing
18:03 <PinkTomato> I might too if I can get my loop to work
18:03 <wrtlprnft> PinkTomato: anyways, the problem is that (ino) tail doesn't die when arma does
18:03 <K-Yo> freako5, isn't it here?
18:03 <freako5> k-yo: where can i find the code, to make an server like flower power?
18:03 <K-Yo> ah
18:03 <K-Yo> launchpad
18:03 <K-Yo> sty+ct
18:04 <K-Yo> #apropos ct
18:04 <@armabot> K-Yo: action, ctime, ctos, ctwf, dict, dictionaries, doctype, objects, sty+ct, and whatistheactivityofthischannel?
18:04 <K-Yo> #sty+ct
18:04 <@armabot> K-Yo: kyle r653: Adding MIN_FLAGS_HOME setting || kyle r652: Fixing CTF Flags, Make sure a player can only have one flag || kyle r651: adding /team and /msg to chatlog when configured || kyle r650: changing minor_version to show sty+ct || kyle r649: Merging with 0.2.8.* r975 || kyle r648: Adding ADMIN_COMMAND to LadderLog || kyle r647: Adding INVALID_COMMAND to ladderlog || kyle r646: Adding the (4 more messages)
18:04 <wrtlprnft> maybe say inotail | (<arma command in a loop>)
18:04 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft: Ah, I thought it might be that, I had a go of combinations of while tail do; but couldn't come up with a solution
18:04 <PinkTomato> say inotail?
18:04 <PinkTomato> Oh
18:04 <apparition> #sagelord
18:05 <wrtlprnft> inotail <options> | (while true; do armagetronad-dedicated <args>; done)
18:05 <K-Yo> freako5, https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
18:05 <apparition> ls #sagelord
18:05 <freako5> ah ok , ty :)
18:05 <apparition> okay, i give up
18:05 <wrtlprnft> #help sagelord
18:05 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "sagelord".
18:05 <wrtlprnft> #help ls
18:06 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft: trying now :)
18:06 <apparition> #ls sagelord
18:06 <K-Yo> freako5, and there's the wiki who gives llog functions
18:06 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
18:06 <K-Yo> #help llog
18:06 <wrtlprnft> PinkTomato: good luck, i acutally just got that idea right now
18:06 <freako5> k-yo:
18:06 <@armabot> K-Yo: (llog <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/ladderlogconfig.php?config=$1".
18:06 <@armabot> apparition: timed out
18:06 <apparition> #ls apparition
18:07 <wrtlprnft> might be a problem because the new arma server will get all the commands the old server didn't receive anymore when it died
18:07 <K-Yo> #llog chat
18:07 <@armabot> apparition: apparition has last been seen on Wild West =Sumo= 7 hours 25 minutes ago.
18:07 <apparition> #ls sagelord
18:07 <@armabot> K-Yo: CHAT: [player] [message]
18:08 <@armabot> apparition: timed out
18:08 <wrtlprnft> note that the armabot machine is currently building a new kernel for itself
18:08 <wrtlprnft> did anyone notice that 2.6.28 has existed for a very long time and there's still no 2.6.28.1?
18:09 <PinkTomato> wrtlprnft: Thank you! that's perfect :), I had a look at a bash manual and got scared.
18:09 <apparition> just add the .1 and call it a day
18:09 <wrtlprnft> probably it'll get released a day after i upgrade all my machines to it
18:09 <wrtlprnft> PinkTomato: yw
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18:33 <madmax> what's the deep meaning behind "iccleoldme"?
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18:33 <BabyBug> madmax, what makes you think there's a deep meaning?
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18:34 <madmax> there isn't? :(
18:34 <BabyBug> Well there is but that's besides the point =P
18:34 <BabyBug> The meaning is personal anywhoo =)
18:35 <BabyBug> the shallow meaning though is that i am very small and i feel old =P
18:37 <madmax> this calls for armabot's wisdom
18:37 <madmax> #cyborg iccle
18:37 <madmax> if armabot decides to share it, that is
18:37 <@armabot> madmax: I.C.C.L.E.: Intelligent Cybernetic Construct Limited to Exploration
18:38 <BabyBug> ... ><
18:38 <madmax> not that heh?
18:39 <BabyBug> no...
18:48 * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug
18:48 * BabyBug pokes ct|kyle
18:57 <BabyBug> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4228110/AA-van-tows-car-into-a-barrier.html
18:57 <BabyBug> lawl
19:01 <PinkTomato> there was someone in that car!?
19:01 <BabyBug> yes
19:01 <BabyBug> lol
19:01 <BabyBug> if you watch the video :P
19:02 <BabyBug> how fun would that be! :D
19:02 <BabyBug> la la la la la weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
19:02 <BabyBug> =P
19:02 <PinkTomato> more scary ! :P
19:03 <noob_saibot> thats fake
19:03 <PinkTomato> but it was on camera, AND on youtube
19:03 <PinkTomato> AND in the telegraph
19:03 <PinkTomato> how can it be fake ;)
19:03 <BabyBug> noob_saibot, stop being a troll! (wooo i know what that word means now) Proud of me Lucifer? xD
19:04 <PinkTomato> It happens all the time in the UK, we have them in bus restricted zones for example
19:04 <PinkTomato> people try to tailgate a bus to save some time
19:04 <noob_saibot> who calls someone a troll???
19:05 <noob_saibot> stop acting like a mook
19:05 <PinkTomato> It's actually rather stupid, surely wouldn't be hard to make the bollard to stop in cases like that.
19:06 <noob_saibot> that is crazy tolls are like that
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19:06 <noob_saibot> that would be funny if they had them here
19:07 <BabyBug> that's not a toll you fool...
19:07 <PinkTomato> more: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Cw0QJU8ro
19:07 <noob_saibot> it sure does look like one
19:07 <noob_saibot> what is it
19:07 <noob_saibot> Lol what the hell are those things
19:07 <BabyBug> entrance to an airport car park
19:07 <BabyBug> lol
19:08 <noob_saibot> what is the point??
19:08 <noob_saibot> seems like it causes all these accidents lol
19:08 <noob_saibot> i would get so pissed haha
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19:55 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 ACCESS_LEVEL
19:55 <@armabot> PinkTomato: ACCESS_LEVEL: Changes the access level of a configuration item to make it available to lower ranked users || ACCESS_LEVEL_ADMIN: Minimal access level for /admin command. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT: Minimal access level for chatting. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT_TIMEOUT: Time in seconds between public announcements that someone wants to chat, but can't. Set to 0 to disable the public warnings. || (7 more messages)
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21:37 <K-Yo> #players
21:37 <K-Yo> #ping
21:37 <@armabot> pong
21:38 <K-Yo> #armaplayers
21:38 <K-Yo> #apropos play
21:38 <@armabot> K-Yo: onlineplayers
21:38 <K-Yo> #onlineplayers
21:38 <@armabot> K-Yo: This data is 42 seconds old; , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , -+:yoko-, -=DX=-AMC, -pRu- RoBoT, .Michi, /dev/null/Free, =], a-train, AC/DC, AD'S, Ahab, AkirA, Al0nE, Amazing, Angelfish, baboon, Berca, Berserker, Blaze, Boo (2 more messages)
21:38 <K-Yo> #servers
21:38 <@armabot> K-Yo: This data is 56 seconds old; [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (12/12), The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (8/14), Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud) (7/8), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (7/16), |FA| Black Tar! (6/16), Swampland Mud Puddle (6/8), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (6/10), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (4/14), WILDCAT (3/8), {Delicious (1 more message)
21:38 <K-Yo> #more
21:38 <@armabot> K-Yo: Desserts} High Rubber (3/10), nixda.net - Midnight Express (3/12), |FA| Devils Rings! (2/16), ---===<<<[ 2Fast2Dangerous ]>>>===--- (2/10), The MiX (2/32), Capture The Flag =Defense Trainer= (1/2), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (1/12), The Tavern (1/16)
21:44 <Lucifer> grrrr
21:44 <Lucifer> clearly I should go back to my rule where "if you don't exist on the internet, you don't exist"
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21:47 <wrtlprnft> armabot and me and everything taking a reboot, hopefully back soon
21:48 <epsy> crap, the universe is going down
21:48 <epsy> wrtlprnft, what about cafe?
--- Log closed Tue Jan 13 21:48:57 2009
--- Log opened Tue Jan 13 21:49:14 2009
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21:49 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 33 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 32 normal]
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21:49 <wrtlprnft_> that was smooth
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21:49 -!- You're now known as wrtlprnft
21:50 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
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22:02 <wrtlprnft> another reboot, because they're so much fun…
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--- Log opened Tue Jan 13 22:09:08 2009
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22:16 <epsy> BabyBug :D
22:16 <BabyBug> yes epsy? =D
22:16 <epsy> oh yeh ><
22:17 <BabyBug> shhh you boob!
22:17 <epsy> what did I say?
22:17 <BabyBug> you breathed!
22:17 <epsy> oh crap
22:18 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has left #aRmAgEtROn [":X"]
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22:19 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202231#202231
22:19 <epsy> it only really gets funny from line 8
22:20 <BabyBug> my sides are splitting...
22:21 <epsy> triple BabyBug Oo
22:21 <BabyBug> i prefer to laugh at flex...it's funnier =P
22:23 <Lizmatic> yet, too easy..
22:23 * BabyBug agrees!
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22:51 <mib_l0qrw0> hi
22:51 <K-Yo> hi mib_l0qrw0
22:51 -!- mib_l0qrw0 [i=d4fbec18@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c14558cf296b781b] has quit [Client Quit]
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23:00 <epsy> do you know who was here, ivantis2 ?
23:00 <ivantis2> who was here, epsy ?
23:01 <epsy> there was mib_l0qrw0
23:01 <ivantis2> oh i love that guy
23:01 <ivantis2> anyone else?
23:02 <epsy> no, mib_l0qrw0 is awesome enough
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23:19 <ivantis2> epsy, guess what language i am taking next school year? french :)
23:19 <epsy> Champage!
23:19 <epsy> ?
23:19 <epsy> erm
23:19 <epsy> Champagne!
23:20 <ivantis2> Shampain!
23:21 <ivantis2> i couldve taken german or spanish, but those are boring languages that everyone here speaks
23:21 <ivantis2> "you know (spanish|german)? wow what a skill.."
23:30 <BabyBug> it's not called champagne! It's called bubbly!
23:30 <Lucifer> I realize I"m not a french surrender monkey, but I know of no region in France called "bubbly"
23:30 * Lucifer is practicing his trolling skills
23:31 * BabyBug castrates Lucifer
23:31 <Lucifer> thank you
23:31 <BabyBug> practice that bitch
23:31 * Lucifer had a testicle that's been hurting since yesterday
23:31 <ivantis2> better see a doctor about that
23:31 <Lucifer> nah, it happened because I wear sexy underwear, and when I sat in my chair, I sat wrong, and the underwear squeezed the testicle
23:32 <Lucifer> then I went to see a girl, who only managed to exacerbate the problem
23:32 <Lucifer> worse yet, I might manage to see another girl tonight who'll also, no doubt, exacerbate teh problem
23:32 <epsy> SHHH
23:32 <Lucifer> so a good afternoon's castration is just what the doctor ordered
23:32 <epsy> why isn't armabot on autoop?
23:33 <Lucifer> I don't know
23:33 <Lucifer> I don't think I have the level of access I need to autoop armabot
23:33 <Lucifer> why, were you going to kick me? ;)
23:33 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
23:34 <epsy> heh, no, that's more complicated
23:34 <BabyBug> arma bot could do with a 10 minute ban thingy command..
23:34 <epsy> that bzrlib doc repulses me :<
23:35 * Lucifer wonders why testicles might continue to hurt
23:35 <epsy> I mean, there's just one thing I would like to see: source of each method/function
23:36 <epsy> but there's not..so I'm lost
23:39 -!- noob_saibot [i=4570961f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2c14bd27bb2d7a67] has joined #armagetron
23:39 * noob_saibot is back and stronger than ever
23:39 <epsy> Holy shit
23:40 <noob_saibot> thank u thank u
23:40 <epsy> Blue flag returned.
23:40 <epsy> You have the flag.
23:40 <epsy> shhh
23:41 <noob_saibot> no problem i wont tell nobody
23:43 <Lucifer> why does epsy keep shushing people?
23:43 <epsy> that was directed to myself
23:43 <epsy> or the announcer
23:44 * BabyBug shushs epsy
23:44 * noob_saibot cuddles, snuggles, and huggles Babybug
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23:45 <BabyBug> that's not me dear...
23:45 <Lucifer> yeah, he's cuddling, snuggling, and huggling a fake BabyBug
23:46 <Lucifer> poor guy
23:46 <epsy> "Nooooo!" SPLAT!
23:46 <noob_saibot> my mind is playin tricks on me doo dooo doo doo, doo doo doo
23:46 <Lucifer> why would a girl, after a long email exchange, continue the email exchange when she has a phone number readily available?
23:46 * Lucifer wouldn't do that, he would go right to the phone number
23:47 <Lucifer> (or quit talking to her if I wasn't interested)
23:47 <epsy> fear of the exploding phone bill?
23:48 <noob_saibot> roaming
23:48 <BabyBug> shy maybe?
23:48 <Lucifer> she hasn't been shy in email, heh
23:48 <epsy> phone bill then
23:48 <Lucifer> she is from out of town, roaming could be an issue
23:48 <BabyBug> Well...nervous about talking...you have time to think with an email!
23:49 <Lucifer> well, I also told her I wasn't available until after 8:30pm, so she's either been scared off, or I won't hear from her until then
23:50 <noob_saibot> you got it in the bag
23:51 <epsy> nighty
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Log from 2009-01-14:
--- Day changed Wed Jan 14 2009
00:05 <Lucifer> great, I have to nurse a noob instructor this semester
00:06 <ivantis2> that sounds fun
00:06 <Lucifer> it usually is, actually ;)
00:07 <Lucifer> he's never taught this course, and he's never taught at this campus
00:07 <Lucifer> so, he knows physics, but he has to borrow all the coursework from a different instructor
00:08 <Lucifer> that girl needs to email me so I know if I need to eat before my guitar lesson or after
00:08 <Lucifer> I don't want to find myself at 4am not having eaten dinner again
00:09 <ivantis2> man, i see a potential issue with tmobile's setup with tmomail.net: send an email to phoneNumber@tmomail.net, it sends it to them as an SMS message
00:09 <ivantis2> a company that wanted to advertise could just cycle through every possible number and send their ad to it
00:09 <ivantis2> with a script
00:09 <Lucifer> so if I know someone's cell is a tmobile phone, I can spam them?
00:09 <ivantis2> yes
00:09 <Lucifer> ivantis2: what's your phone number?
00:10 <ivantis2> no i dont want to tell you!
00:10 <ivantis2> got the info from http://smsscript.com/
00:10 <Lucifer> there are even exchanges where you can find out which companies own particular blocks of phone numbers
00:10 <Lucifer> so you don't have to iterate through all possible phone numbers, just find out which ones tmobile owns
00:11 <ivantis2> man, a potential issue! why havent they corrected this?
00:11 <Lucifer> because it would cost *money*
00:11 <PinkTomato> because email to sms gateways never work anyway
00:11 <Lucifer> they won't correct it until enough customers complain
00:12 <PinkTomato> maybe they have?
00:12 <PinkTomato> I have never received and email by SMS
00:12 <Lucifer> what's your phone number?
00:12 <Lucifer> er, if it's tmobile, that is
00:12 <ivantis2> i just tried it and got the email
00:12 <ivantis2> it shows it coming from some 4-digit phone number
00:12 <ivantis2> its t-mobile
00:12 <ivantis2> a G1
00:13 <PinkTomato> send about 5 more
00:13 <PinkTomato> see if it gets bored after that
00:13 <ivantis2> as i said, works with any provider: http://smsscript.com/
00:13 <PinkTomato> when you say any...
00:13 <Lucifer> wait, is he spamming us?
00:13 <ivantis2> who me?
00:13 <ivantis2> no
00:14 <PinkTomato> my network provider blocked POP3, so I couldn't even pay the £4 a megabyte to receive my email.
00:15 <Lucifer> ivantis2: they don't list my provider
00:16 <z-man> armabot: hey, you missed my aabeta update :(
00:16 <ivantis2> yeah it worked the 5 next times
00:16 <ivantis2> weird, no spam control
00:17 <ivantis2> its like free sms
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01:11 <ivantis2> i thought ivantis3 should have been banned from here?
01:11 <ivantis2> Lucifer, take care of ivantis3 for me
01:11 <Lucifer> ok
01:11 <Lucifer> #kick ivantis3
01:11 -!- ivantis3 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "Lucifer"]
01:11 <ivantis2> #ban ivantis3
01:12 <BabyBug> #ban ivantis2
01:12 <BabyBug> :D
01:12 <ivantis2> it comes back as if a mind of its own
01:12 <ivantis2> i hate supybots, so stupid
01:15 <Lucifer> well, I just signed up to be a mystery shopper
01:15 <Lucifer> but it doesn't look like it's going to pay terribly well, hmmmmm
01:15 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: what are you going to mystery shop for?
01:16 <Lucifer> it's a secret!
01:16 <Lucifer> heh
01:16 <Lucifer> I've wanted to be a mystery shopper since I worked at Sonic, that always seemed like fun work
01:17 <ct|kyle> # help onlineplayers
01:17 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (onlineplayers <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/onlineplayers.php".
01:18 <ivantis2> #onlineplayers
01:18 <@armabot> ivantis2: This data is 10 seconds old; , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , $$gotmoney$$, -=LoCo=-, -=VcL.Hi, -=}< WeEzY BaBy, -=}ID< killer, -=}ID< °steam°, /etc/, 120shadow2\, 2B~M~B2 AKBALLA, <~lee~>, ><(((°>, Ahmed, Amadeus, Amazing, (3 more messages)
01:18 <ivantis2> wus up with this ,,,,?
01:19 -!- YandereBot [n=Pharo@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
01:19 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft needs to check for null players
01:19 <luke-jr> !start theme=twg
01:19 <BabyBug> luke-jr...........
01:19 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
01:19 -!- YandereBot [n=Pharo@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
01:19 <luke-jr> :O
01:19 <ivantis2> fail
01:19 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
01:19 <luke-jr> XD
01:19 <ivantis2> irc games are boring and a waste of time
01:19 -!- YandereBot [n=Pharo@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
01:19 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
01:19 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
01:20 <luke-jr> !join
01:20 <YandereBot> luke-jr: You don't have permission to do that.
01:20 <ivantis2> much like myspace and facebook
01:20 <PinkTomato> xD
01:20 <ct|kyle> #kick YandereBot
01:20 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
01:20 <luke-jr> err, it means !yandere join
01:20 <ivantis2> join or die, !die
01:20 <ivantis2> !die
01:20 <luke-jr> play!
01:20 <ivantis2> !yandere join
01:20 <ct|kyle> #kill luke-jr
01:20 <ivantis2> joined
01:20 <@armabot> luke-jr will die on Wed Jan 14 01:20:33 2009 due to being stabbed in the eye by ct|kyle
01:20 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: !yandere
01:20 <luke-jr> BabyBug: u too
01:20 <z-man> !yandere join
01:20 <BabyBug> what?
01:20 <BabyBug> !join
01:20 <YandereBot> BabyBug: You don't have permission to do that.
01:20 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: #kick YandereBot
01:20 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
01:20 <luke-jr> BabyBug: !yandere join
01:20 * z-man is curious
01:21 <BabyBug> !yandere join
01:21 <PinkTomato> !yandere join
01:21 <BabyBug> nah ct|kyle i'm curious to see what it is
01:21 <ct|kyle> its a spybot that steels your identity
01:21 <z-man> !vote BabyBug
01:21 <YandereBot> z-man: The game hasn't started yet.
01:21 <z-man> clearly a worm
01:21 <PinkTomato> 1 more :)
01:21 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that's all luke-jr's bots do
01:22 <YandereBot> All the programs go about their business one day and notice that KWrite seems to be missing. After executing for a while, they go to directory to check on , and find that has been shutdown by a division by zero. seems to have been the victim of a worm!
01:22 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
01:22 <YandereBot> This game starts at NIGHT. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
01:22 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, ivantis2, z-man, BabyBug, and PinkTomato.
01:22 <luke-jr> pronouns appear broken :o
01:23 <PinkTomato> Right
01:23 <BabyBug> what's meant to happen?
01:23 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-dyn248.78-99-74.t-com.sk] has quit ["Leaving."]
01:23 <BabyBug> who types what?
01:23 <z-man> The worm is meant to pick its target.
01:23 <BabyBug> im so confused
01:23 <luke-jr> night roles need to do stuff
01:23 <luke-jr> if you get errors about invalid command, /msg YandereBot !yandere <target>
01:23 <z-man> if you're a worm, you probably need to /msg YandereBot something
01:23 <luke-jr> or any other night role
01:23 <luke-jr> !yandere help
01:23 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
01:23 <luke-jr> that will tell you your role again
01:24 <YandereBot> luke-jr, who is not a worm, was wasted by a DVD laser.
01:24 <YandereBot> ivantis2, who is not a worm, was knocked off with a brownout.
01:24 <luke-jr> jerk
01:24 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
01:24 <luke-jr> lol
01:24 <YandereBot> Current players: z-man, BabyBug, and PinkTomato.
01:24 <ivantis2> !join
01:24 <YandereBot> ivantis2: You don't have permission to do that.
01:24 <z-man> well, well, well.
01:24 <ivantis2> !yandere join
01:24 <z-man> I'm a useless special, ptrace
01:24 <z-man> I had the power to trace player movements at night.
01:24 <BabyBug> i say it's PinkTomato! he's quiet...
01:25 <z-man> I traced luke.
01:25 <z-man> It seems we have a kill program, too.
01:25 <ivantis2> huh?
01:25 <ivantis2> whatever
01:25 <z-man> you're late, the game has already started.
01:26 <BabyBug> <YandereBot> ivantis2, who is not a worm, was knocked off with a brownout.
01:26 <BabyBug> he got knocked out
01:26 <z-man> yeah, we had two kills.
01:26 <ivantis2> !yandere join
01:26 <z-man> ah, /me didn't pay proper attention :)
01:26 <luke-jr> ivantis2: we're dead
01:27 <BabyBug> the pauses are far too long..
01:27 <z-man> BabyBug, PinkTomato: got anything to say in your defense?
01:27 <z-man> Pause? We can !vote already.
01:27 <ivantis2> !yandere join
01:27 <PinkTomato> wait, am I meant to do something?
01:27 <luke-jr> ROFL
01:27 <ivantis2> !yandere join
01:27 <BabyBug> that's why it's taking so long...
01:27 <luke-jr> ivantis2: PATIENT
01:27 <ivantis2> it dont work no more
01:27 <BabyBug> yes you are PinkTomato ><
01:28 <luke-jr> ivantis2: the first game is still ongoing
01:28 <ivantis2> !yandere join!yandere join!yandere join!yandere join!yandere join
01:28 <YandereBot> ivantis2: I don't recognize that command.
01:28 <z-man> !yandere vote BabyBug
01:28 <YandereBot> z-man has voted for BabyBug. BabyBug: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
01:28 <PinkTomato> Oh I need to vote.
01:28 <BabyBug> !yandere vote z-man
01:28 <YandereBot> BabyBug has voted for z-man. BabyBug: 1, z-man: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
01:28 <PinkTomato> !yandere vote BabyBug
01:28 <YandereBot> PinkTomato has voted for BabyBug. BabyBug: 2, z-man: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
01:28 <YandereBot> You lynch BabyBug, and it turns out BabyBug was a worm!
01:28 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
01:28 <z-man> hah!
01:28 <BabyBug> ='(
01:28 <YandereBot> Bugs: PinkTomato
01:28 <luke-jr> sweet
01:28 <YandereBot> Programs: luke-jr
01:28 <YandereBot> Ptraces: z-man
01:28 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: ivantis2
01:28 <YandereBot> Worms: BabyBug
01:28 <ivantis2> i won!
01:28 <ivantis2> cool
01:28 <PinkTomato> Oh I get the game now
01:28 <PinkTomato> :)
01:28 <z-man> what was the deal with the knockout?
01:29 <ivantis2> idk
01:29 * luke-jr looks at debug
01:29 <BabyBug> no idea why luke-jr went out..
01:29 <BabyBug> i voted for ivantis2 to be knocked out
01:29 <PinkTomato> um...
01:29 * PinkTomato whistles
01:29 <BabyBug> lol
01:29 <z-man> What did you do?
01:29 <ivantis2> i was inspecting BabyBug for viruses
01:29 <luke-jr> oh
01:29 <luke-jr> PinkTomato offed me
01:29 <luke-jr> !yandere help bug
01:30 <luke-jr> meh
01:30 <luke-jr> !yandere help ninja
01:30 <luke-jr> Bugs can either spy on someone once during a day of your choosing OR kill someone once during a night. Type "/msg YandereBot !spy <user>" during the day or "/msg YandereBot !kill <user>" during the night.
01:30 <ivantis2> !yandere join
01:30 <YandereBot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
01:30 <BabyBug> !yandere join
01:30 <luke-jr> !yandere end
01:30 <YandereBot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
01:30 <PinkTomato> !yandere join
01:30 <YandereBot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
01:30 <luke-jr> !yandere end
01:30 <YandereBot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
01:30 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=tw
01:30 <YandereBot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
01:30 <luke-jr> !yandere end
01:30 <YandereBot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
01:30 <BabyBug> tw?
01:30 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
01:30 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
01:30 <z-man> stop spamming
01:30 <luke-jr> default isn't TWG
01:30 <z-man> !yandere join
01:30 <BabyBug> !yandere join
01:31 <PinkTomato> !yandere join
01:31 <ivantis2> !yandere join
01:31 <z-man> Much better than on the forums :)
01:31 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: you had an extra leading space, try again
01:31 <BabyBug> !yandere help worm
01:31 <PinkTomato> !yandere join
01:31 <luke-jr> !yandere help roles
01:31 <z-man> !yandere help
01:31 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is a variation of the classic Mafia game, also known as Werewolf. A new game is about to start. Type "!join" to join.
01:31 <YandereBot> This is a detective game. It cycles between two phases: During the day, everyone gets together and tries to figure out who they think is a worm, and they can vote to lynch someone. During the night, players with special roles can perform actions that may shed some light.
01:31 <YandereBot> Each night, the worms can pick one player to kill. The object of the game is to find and kill the worms before they kill you. PM conversations between players is allowed at any time, but you MAY NOT copy/paste PM messages into the channel.
01:31 <luke-jr> hm, roles don't seem to work yet
01:31 <YandereBot> All the programs go about their business one day and notice that KWrite seems to be missing. After executing for a while, they go to directory to check on , and find that was assassinated with a division by zero. There's only one explanation: there is a worm among us!
01:31 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
01:31 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
01:31 <ivantis2> it worked for me
01:31 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, z-man, BabyBug, and ivantis2.
01:31 <PinkTomato> !!
01:32 <PinkTomato> :(
01:32 <PinkTomato> !yandere join
01:32 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: too late, this game will be short
01:32 <luke-jr> !abstain
01:32 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
01:32 <BabyBug> !vote ivantis2
01:32 <YandereBot> BabyBug has voted for ivantis2. ivantis2: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
01:32 <luke-jr> O.o
01:32 <z-man> that's a neat trick to fly under the radar, luke
01:32 <luke-jr> z-man: ?
01:32 <z-man> abstaining to avoid attention?
01:33 <z-man> classic worm action.
01:33 <ivantis2> !vote luke-jr
01:33 <YandereBot> ivantis2 has voted for luke-jr. ivantis2: 1, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
01:33 <luke-jr> 4-player games almost always are abstain on the first turn
01:33 <z-man> !vote luke-jr
01:33 <YandereBot> z-man has voted for luke-jr. ivantis2: 1, luke-jr: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 0
01:33 <YandereBot> You lynch luke-jr, and it turns out luke-jr was NOT a worm!
01:33 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
01:33 <luke-jr> now you lose
01:33 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
01:33 <YandereBot> Current players: z-man, BabyBug, and ivantis2.
01:33 <z-man> oops
01:33 <ivantis2> oh guess he wwasnt de wurm
01:33 <ivantis2> !vote z-man
01:33 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that ivantis2 has any special ability.
01:34 <BabyBug> stupid bot
01:35 <z-man> indeed
01:35 <z-man> Bug report:
01:35 <z-man> I'm the KILL program
01:35 <z-man> but I can't !kill anyone :/
01:35 <BabyBug> luke-jr, check the logs! :P
01:36 <z-man> [01:31] [Notice] -YandereBot- You're a kill. Kill programs have the ability to single-handedly kill a player of their choosing once during a night of your choosing. Type "/msg YandereBot !kill <user>" if you believe that person is a worm.
01:36 <z-man> but doing so gives:
01:36 <BabyBug> -YandereBot- BabyBug: I don't recognize that command.
01:36 <z-man> [01:35] <-> YandereBot> !yandere kill BabyBug
01:36 <z-man> [01:35] [Notice] -YandereBot- z-man: I don't recognize that command.
01:36 <YandereBot> The sun is rising. If you're a night role, you need to make your action now or type "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
01:36 <BabyBug> -YandereBot- I need a decision from you. You're a bug. Bugs can either spy on someone once during a day of your choosing OR kill someone once during a night. Type "/msg YandereBot !spy <user>" during the day or "/msg YandereBot !kill <user>" during the night.
01:36 <BabyBug> kill ivantis2 not me z-man!!
01:36 <z-man> I suppose BabyBug has the same problem :)
01:36 <BabyBug> *growl*
01:37 <BabyBug> gawsh! there's no trust these days
01:37 <luke-jr> z-man: try !yandere
01:37 <BabyBug> still doesn't work luke-jr
01:38 <BabyBug> i tried that
01:38 <z-man> !yandere !kill BabyBug
01:38 <YandereBot> z-man: I don't recognize that command.
01:38 <z-man> !yandere kill BabyBug
01:38 <YandereBot> z-man: I don't recognize that command.
01:38 <z-man> nope
01:38 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
01:38 <YandereBot> BabyBug, who is not a worm, was knocked off with a PEBKAC.
01:38 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
01:38 <YandereBot> Bugs: BabyBug
01:38 <BabyBug> fine..
01:38 <YandereBot> Kills: z-man
01:38 <luke-jr> /msg YandereBot !yandere BabyBug
01:38 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: luke-jr
01:38 <YandereBot> Worms: ivantis2
01:38 <ivantis2> i won again!
01:38 <BabyBug> .........
01:38 <luke-jr> hmmm
01:38 <ivantis2> !rank
01:38 <ivantis2> !ranks
01:38 <z-man> no, I would have originally killed you.
01:38 <ivantis2> ranking system?
01:38 <luke-jr> Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/luke-jr/src/games/yandere/trunk/classes/yandere-theme.php on line 204
01:39 <ivantis2> no? that doesnt change the outcome -YandereBot- You won the game! Prizes coming soon... maybe ;)
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01:39 <luke-jr> I suspect that's to do with pronouns tho
01:39 <BabyBug> spammy bot
01:39 <z-man> anyway, bedtime.
01:39 <BabyBug> it should be banned!
01:39 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i should of listened to you =(
01:40 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
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01:40 <luke-jr> oops too soon
01:40 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
01:40 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
01:40 <luke-jr> need 3 testers at least :þ
01:40 <PinkTomato> !join
01:40 <YandereBot> PinkTomato: You don't have permission to do that.
01:41 <PinkTomato> !yandere join
01:41 <z-man> !join
01:41 <YandereBot> z-man: You don't have permission to do that.
01:41 <BabyBug> !yandere join
01:41 <z-man> aww, another one can't hurt :)
01:41 <BabyBug> lol
01:41 <z-man> !yandere join
01:41 <z-man> !vote ivantis2
01:41 <YandereBot> z-man: The game hasn't started yet.
01:41 <z-man> can't let him win again :)
01:41 <YandereBot> All the programs go about their business one day and notice that Notepad seems to be missing. After executing for a while, they go to directory to check on , and find that has been killed by a core dump. This looks like the work of a worm!
01:41 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
01:41 <luke-jr> lol
01:41 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
01:41 <BabyBug> he never won the first time
01:41 <BabyBug> lol
01:41 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, PinkTomato, BabyBug, and z-man.
01:41 <ivantis2> !yandere join
01:41 <ivantis2> aw man
01:41 <BabyBug> too late
01:41 <BabyBug> !vote luke-jr
01:41 <YandereBot> BabyBug has voted for luke-jr. luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
01:42 <luke-jr> -.-
01:42 <luke-jr> !abstain
01:42 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
01:42 <z-man> !vote BabyBug
01:42 <YandereBot> z-man has voted for BabyBug. luke-jr: 1, BabyBug: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
01:42 <PinkTomato> !vote PinkTomato
01:42 <BabyBug> ><
01:42 <YandereBot> You can't vote for yourself.
01:42 <z-man> aww
01:42 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: !abstain
01:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, !vote z-man
01:42 <luke-jr> !unvote
01:42 <YandereBot> luke-jr has switched from abstain to undecided. luke-jr: 1, BabyBug: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
01:42 <PinkTomato> !hmm
01:42 <YandereBot> luke-jr activates and sends SIGKILL to PinkTomato! PinkTomato, a worm, is forcefully terminated.
01:42 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
01:42 <YandereBot> Kill-9s: luke-jr
01:42 <YandereBot> Obfuscated worms: PinkTomato
01:42 <YandereBot> Programs: BabyBug
01:42 <PinkTomato> ...
01:42 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: z-man
01:42 <z-man> well done :)
01:43 <luke-jr> XD
01:43 <luke-jr> ooooh, obfuscated :o
01:43 <PinkTomato> hehe
01:43 <z-man> I woudln't have been able to scan him?
01:43 <PinkTomato> needs more people
01:43 <luke-jr> z-man: he'd have looked like a normal program
01:43 <BabyBug> it needs it's own channel ><
01:43 <z-man> so, basically, my power was USELESS?
01:44 <z-man> #armatwgetron.
01:44 <z-man> err, without the .
01:44 <luke-jr> #Yandere ?
01:44 <luke-jr> or that
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01:45 <z-man> Well, REALLY bedtime.
01:45 <BabyBug> suuuuuuuuuure
01:45 <luke-jr> #armatwgetron has the bot
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01:50 <BabyBug> #si nexus
01:50 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
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01:54 <luke-jr> z-man: -c in #armatwgetron plz?
01:54 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: :P
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02:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8816 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Files now on sourceforge. Also, bump for armabot.
02:12 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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02:20 <Lizz> anyone home?
02:20 <Lizz> guess not.. *wanders off*
02:20 <BabyBug> hi hun!
02:20 <BabyBug> nuuu
02:20 <Lizz> oo hi baby
02:20 <BabyBug> =D
02:21 <PinkTomato> Hi Lizmatic
02:21 <Lizz> umm i need ur help again lol
02:21 <Lizz> er
02:21 <BabyBug> different liz PinkTomato
02:21 <BabyBug> lol
02:21 <Lizz> no.. im not Lizmatic
02:21 <PinkTomato> oh lol :D
02:21 <Lizz> :P
02:21 <PinkTomato> I've seen a Liz rename to Lizmatic sorry :P
02:21 <Lizz> its ok
02:21 <ivantis2> no 'hi hun' for me...
02:21 <Lizz> i got a question for all u gurus
02:22 <BabyBug> no, you're an annoying little brat ivantis2
02:22 <Lizz> i wanna put up a soccer server for a change.. and ive looked thru the examples folder.. only have fortress>soccer.cfg
02:22 <Lizz> umm
02:23 <luke-jr> Lizz: #armatwgetron
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02:23 <apparition> come to fort cafe!!!!
02:23 <BabyBug> don't listen to luke-jr
02:23 <luke-jr> apparition: #armatwgetron
02:23 <Lizz> not sure what i need
02:23 <ivantis2> and still no one has taken my idea for a baseball server hack..
02:23 <Lizz> andideas Baby?
02:23 <apparition> luke-jr: what?
02:23 <Lizz> any*
02:23 <luke-jr> apparition: join
02:23 * Lizz slaps her fingers
02:24 <BabyBug> ermm...
02:24 <apparition> what is that?
02:24 <BabyBug> no =x I've never set up non-normal servers...knowing about the example configs was just from reading what other people have said
02:24 <Lizz> bugga
02:25 <Lizz> ill search the AA forums see what i can find
02:25 <BabyBug> tried the CT wiki?
02:25 <Lizz> no.. ill look there too ;)
02:25 <luke-jr> Lizz:
02:25 <Lizz> like:
02:25 <luke-jr> /join #armatwgetron
02:25 <Lizz> er luke too
02:25 <Lizz> why?
02:26 <BabyBug> Lizz, http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Styball
02:26 <luke-jr> to play
02:26 <Lizz> aaaaah ur a babe Baby! <3
02:27 <BabyBug> =D
02:27 <Lizz> :D
02:27 <Lizz> hmm
02:28 <apparition> everyone come to fort cafe?
02:29 <luke-jr> no
02:29 <luke-jr> everyone come to #armatwgetron
02:34 <ivantis2> everyone eat cheese with their pet goat
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02:38 <PinkTomato> Lizz: I have seen a scooer-sty config somewhere
02:38 <PinkTomato> football* < easier to spell
02:38 <Lizz> thx PT.. :)
02:39 <PinkTomato> shall I find it?
02:39 <Lizz> its ok ty.. Baby linked me ;)
02:39 <PinkTomato> oops, should read the whole conversation before I embrass myself.
02:40 <Lizz> its ok.. im not sure i kno enuff to get it working anyway
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02:53 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8815 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added 0.2.8_alpha20090113.
02:53 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
02:58 <PinkTomato> Can anyone recommend a Macintosh text editor for a friend?
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03:07 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: TextEdit
03:08 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Ah, we found one in the end :), thanks anyway. TextEdit saved the <html> tags wrong Oo
03:15 <madmax> MacVim, TextMate, TextWrangler, BBEdit
03:15 <BabyBug> show off
03:16 <madmax> well those are the best
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04:16 * Lucifer is giving up on the girl
04:17 <Lucifer> GodTodd_: hey, facebook
04:17 <Lucifer> heh
04:18 <BabyBug> why you giving up Lucifer?
04:18 <Lucifer> because I don't have a phone number to call her and nag her directly, and she's going back to cali tomorrow afternoon?
04:19 <BabyBug> hrmm yeh, good reason ^^
04:22 <Lucifer> she says she'll be back in austin in two weeks, though, so I'm only giving up for now
04:28 <Lucifer> ok, I need to add to that craigslist posting: "If you think you have a myspace, think again, and don't respond to this ad."
04:29 <noob_saibot> mmm myspace!
04:29 <BabyBug> what about facebook?
04:30 <ct|kyle> my<small>noob</small>Space
04:30 <noob_saibot> mmm facebook!
04:31 <Lucifer> BabyBug: not you, him!
04:31 <BabyBug> what?
04:31 <Lucifer> we were talking not too long ago about people we knew in high school that we wouldn't mind hearing from, and they're on facebook
04:31 <Lucifer> "we" being GodTodd_ (hi there!) and me
04:32 <noob_saibot> you met her on myspace?
04:32 <noob_saibot> or adult friend finder
04:32 <BabyBug> facebook is good =)
04:32 <noob_saibot> :P
04:32 <noob_saibot> yea, i love poking *****es
04:33 <Lucifer> what? No, I'm commenting on two different and unrelated things going on in my life at this particular moment
04:34 <Lucifer> here's a third thing to comment on, I need to dig up some php code I've written and send it to this guy in Australia and hopefully he'll hire me
04:34 <Lucifer> since he's in Australia, I don't have to worry about getting in the door for an interview ;)
04:34 <noob_saibot> haha
04:34 <noob_saibot> do you have to go into the office
04:35 <Lucifer> it'll be a work-at-home position until they open their Austin office in March
04:35 <noob_saibot> oh cool
04:39 <Lucifer> damn, I can either send him php code I wrote years ago, or half-finished php code I wrote a few months ago
04:39 * Lucifer needs to write more php code, apparently
04:41 <BabyBug> could finish the half finished code?
04:41 <BabyBug> and send that =)
04:41 <BabyBug> i'll help!
04:42 <Lucifer> I think the half-finished code will be fine :)
04:42 <Lucifer> I just need to review it because he may want to ask questions about it, and the reason I don't want to send the code I wrote years ago
04:42 <Lucifer> is because I'd have to spend several hours studying it so I *could* answer questions about it
04:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Tronix/Pure-wrath-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
04:46 <BabyBug> that could be fun :D
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04:48 <Lucifer> well, maybe I should try to dig up something else that I've written, these can't be my only two choices, can they?
04:48 <BabyBug> surely not
04:49 <Lucifer> aha, found the stuff I did when I was working for Sugar
04:50 <Lucifer> I am never going to do what I did last night with a lazy girl again
04:50 <Lucifer> *never*
04:50 <BabyBug> you can always tell when you're on an american server in tron...because ya see a bunch of guys pretending to be girls in there ><
04:50 <BabyBug> what did you do last night? :o
04:50 <Lucifer> can't really talk about it here, all I can say is I've got muscles sore that shouldn't be sore
04:51 <Lucifer> and they wouldn't be if the girl wasn't so damned lazy
04:51 <BabyBug> of course you can talk about it here!
04:53 <BabyBug> on a side note...if muscles are sore..they're not being used enough!
04:53 <Lucifer> that's easy for you to say, but you don't have to strike the poses I have to when the other person is lazy
04:53 <Lucifer> had she not been lazy, I could have taken more comfortable poses and it would have been fine
04:53 <Lucifer> I'm plenty active, I use my muscles a lot, hell, I get plenty of exercise
04:54 <BabyBug> poses? lmao
04:54 <noob_saibot> if you need help weight training...holla at ya boi ;)
04:54 <Lucifer> anyway, bad memory, that. she reminded me too much of my ex at all the wrong moments and for all the reasons I'm happy to be divorced
04:55 <BabyBug> describe some of these 'poses' then Lucifer =D
04:55 <Lucifer> heh
04:56 <Lucifer> left leg bent, knee on bed, right foot on floor, hand on headpost, other hand on her
04:57 <Lucifer> oh hell, it's a balance problem. If I want to touch her, I have to balance myself and still provide an appropriate amount of normal force for what she's doing
04:57 <Lucifer> maybe I should give you a free body diagram instead
04:58 <BabyBug> yes!
04:58 <Lucifer> no, wait, doesn't matter
04:58 <Lucifer> what does matter is that the girl's back never broke contact with the bed, and we didn't do anything that required her to lay on her back
04:58 <Lucifer> and that's what I mean by lazy
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04:59 <Lucifer> and at the end of the day, if I have to finish myself off, I'm not calling you back, and that's all there is to it
05:00 <noob_saibot> lolz
05:00 <BabyBug> haha
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05:00 <GodTodd> Lucifer, what about facebook?
05:00 <Lucifer> wentzel's on it
05:01 <noob_saibot> feel free to poke me
05:01 <GodTodd> yeah, i know
05:01 <Lucifer> a few other people, I didn't look too deeply, just noticed him when I was looking for someone else
05:01 <GodTodd> heh don found me with it
05:02 <noob_saibot> there is an armagetron facebook group
05:02 <noob_saibot> lot of ppl on it
05:02 <Lucifer> I went ahead and joined the armagetron facebook group
05:02 <GodTodd> holy carp batman
05:02 <Lucifer> if I'm gonna do facebook, I may as well be reasonably thorough with it
05:02 <GodTodd> Lucifer on a social networking site?
05:03 <Lucifer> heh
05:03 <BabyBug> i thought that group said girls shouldn't play tron?
05:03 * GodTodd faints.
05:03 <Lucifer> first one I've joined that's not rated X even
05:03 <noob_saibot> yea it does say that
05:03 <noob_saibot> all girls are banned
05:03 <Lucifer> noob_saibot: then how did I manage to join?
05:03 <noob_saibot> LOL
05:03 <GodTodd> i have that and myspace mainly to have as many presences as possible for when i get off my duff with these novels
05:04 <Lucifer> I hope that I get reincarnated as a girl, I don't want to be a boy again
05:04 <noob_saibot> well if you do you cannot join the armagetron facebook group!
05:04 <BabyBug> ...
05:04 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ew!
05:04 <noob_saibot> i just made a myspace again
05:04 <noob_saibot> and im gona delete it soon again lol it sucks
05:04 <Lucifer> noob_saibot: if that whole girl thing is true about that group, I'll be unjoining it soon
05:04 <Lucifer> you can't make "a myspace"
05:05 <Lucifer> you can make a myspace user account, a myspace profile, or whatever it's called
05:05 <noob_saibot> lol
05:05 <Lucifer> but myspace is a social networking site. You don't have your own social networking site
05:05 <noob_saibot> I am a Don
05:05 <noob_saibot> i run stuff
05:05 <BabyBug> practising trolling again Lucifer ?
05:05 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, just ranting
05:05 <Lucifer> I'm still feeling belligerent
05:05 <Lucifer> I blame the girl, heh
05:05 <BabyBug> whats the difference between a rant and trolling then?
05:06 <noob_saibot> learn some new works buggy
05:06 <BabyBug> which girl? the lazy one? or the one going to california?
05:06 <Lucifer> BabyBug: when I'm ranting, I'm not trying to get you to respond to me with anger ;)
05:06 <Lucifer> the one going to california
05:06 <Lucifer> the lazy one was the reason I was belligerent last night
05:06 <BabyBug> ahhhh
05:07 <GodTodd> a rant is "this shit sucks" or "everyone gets that wrong and i hate it" while trolling is "you're a fucking n00b" or "luke-jr sux becuz he does"
05:07 <Lucifer> but the numbers don't lie, in one day I doubled my lifetime count of sex partners
05:07 <BabyBug> you need a punch bag!
05:07 <Lucifer> no, I need an entertaining evening with a scintillating woman
05:07 <BabyBug> uhh...
05:07 <BabyBug> from 1 partner to 2?
05:07 <Lucifer> no, from 2 to 4
05:08 <BabyBug> 4... O.o that's it?! omg...
05:08 <Lucifer> hey, I've been a good boy :)
05:08 <noob_saibot> beats my one night record
05:08 <GodTodd> easy to beat 0
05:09 <BabyBug> lol GodTodd
05:09 <GodTodd> :D
05:09 <noob_saibot> lol
05:09 <noob_saibot> anyone can beat that
05:09 <noob_saibot> i like to set the bar high
05:09 <BabyBug> why does no one ever post any nudes in this channel =(
05:09 <noob_saibot> Lol
05:09 <Lucifer> because they'd get kicked?
05:09 <BabyBug> why?!
05:10 <BabyBug> O.o
05:10 <GodTodd> why don't you start, BabyBug?
05:10 <Lucifer> because this channel is really supposed to be family friendly, in spite of what I may say in an emotionally disturbed rant
05:10 <Lucifer> GodTodd: you don't really want a picture of a fat old men pretending to be an internet lesbian, do you?
05:10 <noob_saibot> haha
05:10 <BabyBug> GodTodd, cause Lizmatic would shout at me =P
05:10 <GodTodd> Lucifer, and what if i do?
05:10 <GodTodd> :P
05:10 <Lucifer> then, please keep it to yourself :)
05:11 <GodTodd> haha
05:11 <noob_saibot> there is always PM
05:11 <BabyBug> Lucifer, bisexual* not lesbian ><
05:11 <GodTodd> half-lesbian then
05:11 <BabyBug> no not half lesbian...
05:11 <GodTodd> ummm
05:11 <GodTodd> how not?
05:11 <BabyBug> uhh..because it just isn't?
05:12 <GodTodd> sure it is :)
05:12 <BabyBug> bullshit
05:12 <Lucifer> well, don't worry so much about it, I'm a lesbian too
05:12 <GodTodd> me too
05:12 <GodTodd> trapped in a man's body tho
05:12 <Lucifer> although, after last night, hmmmm
05:12 <BabyBug> ><
05:12 <Lucifer> where can I find a girl who'll let me lay back and do nothing?
05:12 <GodTodd> the adult store
05:13 <BabyBug> Lucifer, a club
05:13 <GodTodd> they're made of latex or something
05:13 <Lucifer> GodTodd: but for those kinds, I'd have to do everything
05:13 <Lucifer> BabyBug: and sadly, I don't have the money to chase girls that way
05:13 <Lucifer> maybe I should worry about getting a job first
05:13 <GodTodd> nah, we're engineering types...rig up a motor and off she goes ;)
05:13 <Lucifer> oh yeah, I need to send this guy this zip file, after I've figured out what to tell him to look at
05:13 <BabyBug> Lucifer, not even once? have a one night stand :P
05:14 <Lucifer> BabyBug: isn't that what I just did, only without spending any money?
05:14 <Lucifer> (granted, there was no penetration, but that's probably for the best)
05:14 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yes except you did everything...
05:14 <GodTodd> just a bj?
05:14 <GodTodd> or what?
05:14 <Lucifer> right, oh yeah, I guess I got what I paid for, is that what you're suggesting? ;)
05:14 <GodTodd> well...no...if you had to work at it...
05:14 <BabyBug> pretty much Lucifer =P
05:15 <Lucifer> wow, I give myself horrible blow jobs
05:15 <BabyBug> O.o
05:15 <GodTodd> that sucks if there's no penetration and you still have to do work
05:15 <BabyBug> Family Friendly this is =)
05:15 <GodTodd> i've gotten pretty good at it myself
05:15 <GodTodd> :)
05:15 <Lucifer> totally, that's why I was so belligerent when I got home last night
05:16 <BabyBug> didn't that manson dude get a bottom rib removed so he could actually give himself a bj?
05:16 <Lucifer> that's an urban legend
05:16 <BabyBug> or was that a rumour
05:16 <GodTodd> wtf work did you do with no penetration?
05:16 <Lucifer> yeah, why are my muscles sore? it doesn't make sense!
05:16 <BabyBug> tongue sore by any chance? :P
05:16 <Lucifer> dammit, I'm not taking yoga just so I can do that without getting sore while the girl gets to just lay on her back
05:16 <GodTodd> haha
05:16 <Lucifer> actually, it was, but it's recovered today :)
05:17 <BabyBug> lol
05:17 <GodTodd> you got used, dude :/
05:17 <GodTodd> heh
05:17 <BabyBug> Lucifer, another advantage of going to a club...Chance of 2 girls...
05:17 <BabyBug> Then you definatly won't have to do the work...
05:17 <GodTodd> bull
05:18 <BabyBug> bull? that's not bull!
05:18 <Lucifer> BabyBug: even if I got the two girls, would I still have to finish myself?
05:18 <Lucifer> in all the movies I've seen, the guys finish themselves....
05:18 <GodTodd> it's in the script
05:18 <BabyBug> Lucifer, what movies?
05:18 <noob_saibot> reality king movies
05:19 <GodTodd> they have to show you the money shot, you know
05:19 <Lucifer> ok, I realize this conversation is largely my fault, but we really should talk about something else, or not talk at all
05:19 <BabyBug> oh you boring old fart!
05:19 <Lucifer> we can always make another channel for this sort of thing
05:19 <BabyBug> #arma-xxx
05:19 <BabyBug> nah
05:19 <BabyBug> that wouldn't work
05:20 <noob_saibot> Lucifer would be a great admin for the Wild West :P
05:20 <Lucifer> noob_saibot: er, no? I would have to have kicked all of you after I broached the subject
05:20 <Lucifer> #lucifersexlife ?
05:21 <Lucifer> oh hell, just join #luke-jrisanasshat
05:21 <noob_saibot> LOL
05:21 <Lucifer> then we can also drop in random comments about luke-jr's general asshattery
05:21 <BabyBug> you're too cryptic to call it your sex life
05:21 <ct|kyle> LOL
05:21 <BabyBug> does that channel actually exist? lol
05:21 <Lucifer> yes
05:21 <GodTodd> yeah #luke-jrisanasshat is really a catchall channel :)
05:21 <ct|kyle> ya
05:21 <GodTodd> yep
05:21 <GodTodd> i own it :)
05:22 <Lucifer> it got created during luke-jr and my last op war
05:22 <BabyBug> lol ><
05:22 <ct|kyle> i remember that one
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10:21 <Lizmatic> Durka o/
10:27 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8817 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Replaced mac builds with new ones.
10:27 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
10:29 <Durka_> Lizmatic: \o
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11:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8819 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/build/WorkMakefile: Adapted upload to sf. I'm lazy, so I hardcoded my name this time.
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14:13 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
14:13 <@armabot> ct|kyle: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
14:13 <PinkTomato> oppsy
14:14 <ct|kyle> it's the feed
14:14 <PinkTomato> #help weather
14:14 <ct|kyle> Snow all day and i have to dive 20 miles
14:14 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
14:14 <ct|kyle> gtg
14:14 <PinkTomato> :( byebye :)
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17:08 * e_n_d_e_r does not want to be a work today :(
17:11 * Lucifer wants to be at work today
17:11 * luke-jr should be doing work today.
17:11 * Lizmatic doesnt have to work for a few months.
17:12 <BabyBug> lazy!
17:12 <Lizmatic> I'm fat, give me a break
17:12 <Lucifer> fat and pregnant?
17:13 * Lucifer wants a new drug. One that won't make him sick
17:13 <Lizmatic> the fatness is the pregnancy :(
17:16 <luke-jr> Lucifer: caffeine?
17:17 <Lucifer> /me wants a new drug. One that wont go away. One that wont keep me up all night.
17:17 <Lizmatic> weed
17:17 <Lizmatic> !
17:18 * BabyBug slaps Lizmatic
17:18 <Lucifer> One that wont make my mouth too dry. Or make my eyes too red
17:18 <Lizmatic> cocaine!
17:18 <Lucifer> One that won't make me nervous, wondering what to do
17:18 <Lucifer> One that makes me feel like I feel when I'm with you
17:18 <Lucifer> When I'm alone with you!
17:19 <Lizmatic> ..
17:19 <Lucifer> (y'all are kids, I swearuh)
17:19 <Lizmatic> I think luci's already got some drugs
17:19 * luke-jr doesn't let Lucifer be alone with him.
17:19 <Lizmatic> luke-jr: SUPRISE BUTTSECKS
17:19 <Lucifer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSFX1Vb3xQ
17:20 <PinkTomato> #title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSFX1Vb3xQ
17:20 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: The command "title" is available in the Format and Web plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "title".
17:20 <PinkTomato> oh fine, I'll just click it
17:21 * Lucifer loves the sax solo in that song
17:23 <Lucifer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZFqA8JJQj0&NR=1
17:23 * Lucifer needs to go pirating for Huey Lewis
17:24 <PinkTomato> I highly doubt you can call that HQ audio
17:25 <Lucifer> heh
17:28 <Lucifer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNaKWXqXkhw&NR=1 <--- haha, haven't heard that in awhile
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18:21 <BabyBug> epsy!
18:23 <epsy> onoz
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19:02 * K-Yo is listening to Oops, I did it again - Children of Bodom
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19:05 * epsy cares about what K-Yo is listening to
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19:05 <K-Yo> :)
19:05 <K-Yo> let me know if u want it
19:06 <K-Yo> I love it :D
19:08 * PinkTomato googled it
19:08 <K-Yo> :)
19:09 <PinkTomato> hehe, sort of funny :)
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19:19 <PinkTomato> Who is hosting the fortress brawl servers?
19:22 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, I dunno :/ I think ww host one or 2 and probably ct
19:22 <K-Yo> well
19:23 <K-Yo> sage is the one who knows the best probably
19:23 <PinkTomato> true, but I don't sagelord has asked anyone yet?
19:24 <K-Yo> I don't remember him asking me
19:26 <PinkTomato> hmm, well he must be planning something, :)
19:39 <K-Yo> yep
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20:00 <Lucifer> Woo-hoo! I have a phone interview at 3pm today :)
20:00 <epsy> about eugenics?
20:08 <Lucifer> no, about a job
20:08 <Lucifer> I better go take a shower, shave, and shit
20:08 <Lucifer> (I know, it's only a phone interview, but if my appearance is going to affect how I feel, I should take care of it)
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20:28 <ct|kyle> haha Lucifer knows the 3 s's
20:29 <epsy> heh
20:29 <ct|kyle> we have 22 inches of snow
20:30 <ct|kyle> err
20:30 <ct|kyle> Centimeters :P
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20:40 <TaZ_> hiyo
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20:41 <PinkTomato> Hi TaZ_
20:42 <TaZ_> Pinktomato, I'm excited!
20:42 <PinkTomato> why so TaZ_ :)?
20:42 <TaZ_> idk!
20:42 <TaZ_> xD
20:43 <PinkTomato> ah :P
20:49 <sinewav> #weather 60130
20:49 <@armabot> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is 16.0°F (1:49 PM CST on January 14, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 8.6°F. Windchill: 5.0°F. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 4 PM CST this afternoon...
20:49 <sinewav> ...
20:49 <ct|kyle> sinewav: how much snow do you have?
20:49 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
20:49 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 10.6°F (2:49 PM EST on January 14, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 10.4°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 5 PM EST this afternoon...
20:50 <sinewav> lemme look outside...
20:50 <sinewav> looks like 5 inches over the past 2 days.
20:50 <ct|kyle> about what we have
20:51 <sinewav> just enough to be annoying IMO
20:52 <ct|kyle> there were probably 50 wrecks here, i saw 3 in my driving
20:53 <sinewav> wow. My car broke down. Now I just have to be worried about walking.
20:54 <sinewav> speaking of which, I need to walk to the store. I'm out of food.
20:54 <sinewav> >:-|
20:54 <ct|kyle> heh
20:54 <sinewav> I told my boss I wasn't coming to work tomorrow because it;s too cold.
20:54 <ct|kyle> suposed to be -10 here
20:54 <ct|kyle> F
20:55 <PinkTomato> #finc -10
20:55 <@armabot> PinkTomato: -23.3333333333
20:55 <ct|kyle> #g -10F in C
20:55 <sinewav> yeah, bout the same here.
20:55 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (-10) degrees Fahrenheit = -23.3333333 degrees Celsius
20:55 <ct|kyle> i guess PinkTomato beat me
20:55 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
20:55 <ct|kyle> i was predicting about -30C
20:56 <ct|kyle> #g -20F in C
20:56 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (-20) degrees Fahrenheit = -28.8888889 degrees Celsius
20:56 <PinkTomato> Its quite warm here currently
20:56 <PinkTomato> #weather Brighton, UK
20:56 <@armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 43.3°F (7:56 PM GMT on January 14, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 39.2°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady).
20:57 <PinkTomato> Yeah, thought so
20:57 <ct|kyle> 6C?
20:57 <PinkTomato> Should be about that
20:57 <ct|kyle> #g 43.3F in C
20:57 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 43.3 degrees Fahrenheit = 6.27777778 degrees Celsius
20:58 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
20:58 <ct|kyle> I'm learning :)
21:01 <PinkTomato> well that was more already learnt anyway :D
21:04 <sinewav> So, anyone here know what happened to the ID forums? gossip? anyone?
21:05 <BabyBug> they went boom boom!
21:05 <sinewav> yeah no kidding!
21:05 <epsy> err, the clan?
21:05 <sinewav> the clan forum is gone
21:05 <TaZ_> hehe sinewav
21:05 * epsy is too much into the game developer's game
21:06 <sinewav> suspicious laugh TaZ... 0_0
21:06 <TaZ_> lol
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21:10 <epsy> blah, descent community already trolling at interplay forums :(
21:10 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p5087018A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
21:11 <epsy> welcome home
21:13 <sinewav> wait, descent comminuty?
21:13 <sinewav> `where?
21:13 <epsy> they are trolling at interplay forums
21:13 <epsy> (just as they were on the two descentbb's)
21:13 <sinewav> still pissed about D4?
21:13 <TaZ_> idk what happened sinewav
21:13 <epsy> http://www.interplay.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=393
21:14 <epsy> if you ask me, one of the thing that is the most sad with descent is it's community
21:15 <epsy> it's like, the only guy who's still putting effort on it is getting flamed by smegheads all the time
21:15 <epsy> brb
21:15 <sinewav> It makes me sad. I love descent. It's the only game I've ever played besides Arma.
21:18 <PinkTomato> smegheads is from Red Dwarf Right?
21:38 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: right
21:38 <Lucifer> well, epsy may have picked it up from me, but I got it from Red Dwarf
21:39 <PinkTomato> Hehe, I have the DVDs of that at home :)
21:39 <epsy> :)
21:40 <Lucifer> haha, I just ran into philippeqc on facebook ;)
21:40 <epsy> seen him over there too hehe
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21:41 <Lucifer> you're on facebook, epsy?
21:41 <K-Yo> :P
21:41 <epsy> no
21:41 <K-Yo> I saw 1200 and some CTers there ;)
21:41 <Lucifer> I saw you there, K-Yo, but that didn't surprise me
21:41 <Lucifer> and I've seen you recently anyway
21:41 <epsy> seriousely, seeing how retarted the active posters from the armagetron group were...
21:41 <K-Yo> Lucifer, ?
21:41 <Lucifer> but I haven't talked to philippeqc in a *long* time
21:42 <K-Yo> epsy, you're not on facebook but you seem quite up to date :P
21:42 <Lucifer> epsy: heh, relax, that was just a couple of bad apples
21:42 <epsy> K-Yo, I seen all that on a single shot
21:42 <epsy> and also noticed that their page view restrictions were bugged
21:53 <epsy> http://www.gaimtheory.com/
21:57 <PinkTomato> above site is slow
21:57 <K-Yo> nice
21:57 * PinkTomato asks what is it?
21:57 <K-Yo> it's written on the site :P
21:57 <epsy> don't want to use that, but it gives us a good comparison point
21:58 <K-Yo> yeah
21:58 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: I don't understand the site
21:58 <K-Yo> that is something you have to pay for, right?
21:58 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, some stuff to manage players/clans etc
21:58 <epsy> yes, you need to pay the licence
21:58 <PinkTomato> Ah.
21:58 <epsy> no
21:58 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, we're willing ot create a wite for this
21:58 <PinkTomato> Oh
21:58 <epsy> to manage a whole game
21:58 <K-Yo> oh
21:58 <K-Yo> well
21:58 <epsy> see the portofolio section ;)
21:58 <epsy> screw that o, heh
21:59 <K-Yo> yeap
21:59 <K-Yo> kinda empty there :P
22:05 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: regarding clans
22:05 <PinkTomato> would it be 1 person can have many clans
22:05 <PinkTomato> or 1 person can have 1 clan, optionally though: [but may be part of many groups]
22:05 <epsy> don't implement it as clans
22:05 <epsy> implement it as teams
22:06 <PinkTomato> Ah, that is a better word
22:06 <epsy> we don't have to care wether they do this or that, I don't even care about the difference between clan and team, in fact I think there are none
22:06 <epsy> in a team match, you play with a team
22:06 <PinkTomato> Right
22:06 <epsy> may it be also a clan or not
22:07 <PinkTomato> Team is cleareer
22:07 <PinkTomato> So I should probably rewrite what I have to team, and make it many to many
22:07 <epsy> :)
22:08 <epsy> why not putting it on a personal branch of yours?
22:08 <PinkTomato> I think I will, have you got a good guide to launchpad?
22:09 <epsy> help.launchpad.net
22:09 <PinkTomato> hehe, I should have thought of that.
22:09 <epsy> I wonder if there's a FAQ about where to find that website
22:10 <epsy> (because it's hardly linked from the main site)
22:10 <BabyBug> epsy, the link is in the footer of the website
22:10 <BabyBug> lol
22:10 <epsy> glad they put it back
22:11 <K-Yo> the difference that will be between clan and team I think is the frequency of player changing
22:11 <K-Yo> but nothing in the code for sure
22:11 <K-Yo> http://www.titangaminginc.com/titanstrike-community-platform-demo.html
22:11 <K-Yo> http://www.openci.info/index.php
22:11 <epsy> now wtf is the frequency of a player is something else
22:12 <K-Yo> heh
22:12 <K-Yo> that doesn't mean anything!
22:12 <K-Yo> I meant how often there are players geting in/out
22:12 <K-Yo> nvm
22:13 <epsy> to me a team is some players that pack up together to play a match
22:13 <epsy> and a clan people that just play together
22:14 <epsy> and sometimes in matches, but the greatest part is outside matches
22:14 <K-Yo> hmmm yeah
22:14 <K-Yo> well
22:15 <K-Yo> at least we agree that it won't make a big difference on the site
22:15 <epsy> and pretty much every clan is a team as well
22:15 <K-Yo> yeah
22:15 <K-Yo> (or several :P)
22:15 <epsy> the site doesnt need to care
22:15 <epsy> you just need 'permanent' teams, and on-the-shot teams
22:15 <K-Yo> yep
22:15 <K-Yo> that means a difference still :)
22:16 <epsy> making the distinction is only a matter of storage
22:16 <epsy> of storage efficiency*
22:17 <epsy> grm, I knew I should have hurried spreading these 5 invites
22:22 <epsy> blah, I need a decent bzrlib doc
22:23 <BabyBug> define doc
22:24 <epsy> something that lists what I can use and how they work
22:24 <BabyBug> then use the official docs?
22:24 <epsy> they don't show a single line of source code
22:25 <epsy> would have to look for it myself
22:28 <BabyBug> why would you need a single line of source code?
22:28 <BabyBug> All you need to know is the parameters of functions and what it returns :)
22:28 <epsy> for that i'd have to find it
22:31 <epsy> holy O_O
22:31 <epsy> http://armagetronad.sourcearchive.com/documentation/0.3.0-4/classes.html
22:33 <epsy> bookmark'd
22:35 <Lucifer> weeeeeeeeeeeeee
22:35 <Lucifer> I made it to the in-person interview :)
22:35 * Lucifer is excited
22:38 <Lucifer> holy crap, this place is literally right around the corner from me
22:38 <Lucifer> I could walk there :)
22:40 <ct|kyle> that saves some money
22:40 <Lucifer> no kidding
22:40 <Lucifer> it also means I could ride my bike there, then ride my bike to the school
22:40 <Lucifer> then ride home
22:41 <Lucifer> I really want this job :)
22:41 <Lucifer> php programming, web apps, it's what I know best
22:41 <fonkay> good luck to you. Job hunting is the pits.
22:41 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@156-143-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:45 <arrow> .tea
22:46 <Lizmatic> I CAN HAS PLAY WOW AND BABYBUG SHANT
22:46 <ct|kyle> #tea
22:46 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
22:46 <arrow> ah ty
22:46 <BabyBug> Lizmatic is a whore!
22:46 <ct|kyle> #armaservers
22:46 <@armabot> ct|kyle: This data is 31 seconds old; {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (13/14), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (11/16), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (10/14), |FA| Black Ice! (8/16), Wild West =CTF Shooting= (8/10), The YELLOW Submarine (7/12), Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud) (6/8), Wild West =Sumo= (5/14), Wild West =Capture The (1 more message)
22:46 <epsy> who wants to play wow anyway ? :D
22:46 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug
22:46 * BabyBug cuddles Lizmatic i'm sowwie =(
22:46 * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle away
22:47 <arrow> wow sucks :P
22:47 * Lizmatic is proud of her girl
22:47 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I know you'll wait till she leaves to cuddle me back :P
22:47 <epsy> its teh wowmotha
22:47 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, newp :P
22:47 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: your just saying that in front of Lizmatic :P
22:48 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, newp
22:48 <ct|kyle> RTFM
22:48 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: remember what that means
22:49 <epsy> what was the F again?
22:49 <epsy> oh
22:49 <ct|kyle> epsy: how do i set up /login kyle@ct/members
22:49 <epsy> :)
22:49 <ct|kyle> epsy: First
22:49 <epsy> I just checked
22:49 <epsy> just have a ct.authentication.armagetronad.net/member authority
22:50 <TaZ_> o
22:52 <epsy> TaZ_, o ?
22:52 <ct|kyle> Repeat the First Message = RTFM
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22:56 <Lizmatic> ct|kyle: she's a good girl, she knows she'll get a spanking otherwise
22:56 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: you better read the logs then :P
22:57 <epsy> BabyBug is baaaad
22:58 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, how about you go copy and paste the lines that don't exist from the logs? =)
22:58 <Lucifer> fonkay: thanks. :) I made sure to go running before the phone interview so I'd be all energized and excited
22:58 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i'm lazy and if she wants to see she can look :P
22:59 <BabyBug> well you just agreed the lines don't exist...So nice job shooting ya self in the foot =P
23:00 <Lucifer> typical girl logic
23:00 <Lucifer> since a man doesn't directly refute what she says, she assumes he agreed, even though he indirectly refuted it
23:00 <Lizmatic> RACISM
23:00 <Lizmatic> SEXISM
23:00 <Lizmatic> ..ERR
23:00 <Lizmatic> DISCRIMINATION
23:00 <Lucifer> I can't read words written in all caps
23:00 <BabyBug> lmao
23:00 <ct|kyle> lol ya, I read what she said, but i'm still too lazy to just write something not in logs, besides I'd have to search to make sure
23:01 <BabyBug> Lucifer you sexist pig, i thought i was a hairy fat dude anyway? :P
23:01 <Lizmatic> my hairy fat dude <3
23:01 <BabyBug> <3 lol
23:01 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I'm supposed to be mildly sexist in the first year after divorce :)
23:02 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no you're not, that's a bullshit excuse made up by sexist people
23:02 <ct|kyle> even i know that is what that was coming from :P
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23:03 <Lucifer> typical girl logic. When a man successfully refutes what she says, she engages in ad hominem attacks, unaware that ad hominem is a logic fallacy
23:03 <Lizmatic> www.menarebetterthanwomen.com < go there Lucifer
23:03 <Lucifer> I'd rather not
23:03 <Lizmatic> why not? sexist year!
23:03 <BabyBug> Lucifer sounds like he's on his man period aswell
23:03 <Lucifer> see, that's why I'm not truly sexist. I don't believe men are better than women even if I'm pointing out obvious flaws women have
23:04 <Lizmatic> obvious flaws? wtf we're perfect little girls PONY'S AND RAINBOWS
23:04 <Lucifer> typical of girls. Always receiving criticism as a sign of hate, can't seem to disconnect the two
23:04 <Lucifer> the plural of pony is ponies
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23:04 <Lizmatic> oh yeah?
23:04 <Lizmatic> I made it into pony's
23:04 <Lucifer> yeah
23:04 <Lucifer> #dict ponies
23:05 <@armabot> Lucifer: gcide: Pony \Po"ny\, n.; pl. {Ponies}. [Written also {poney}.] [Gael. ponaidh.] 1. A small horse. [1913 Webster] 2. Twenty-five pounds sterling. [Slang, Eng.] [1913 Webster] 3. A translation or a key used to avoid study in getting lessons; a crib; a trot. [College Cant] [1913 Webster] 4. A small glass of beer. [Slang] [1913 Webster] {Pony chaise}, a light, low chaise, drawn by a pony or (1 more message)
23:05 <Lizmatic> well why dont you.. like.. why dont you..
23:05 <Lizmatic> gay.
23:05 <Lucifer> typical american logic. Doesn't like something, declares it's gay
23:05 <Lizmatic> wow wow..
23:05 <Lizmatic> wow wow
23:05 <Lizmatic> I know we're joking but calling me an american is a bit radical, don'tcha think?
23:06 <ct|kyle> no
23:06 <Lucifer> I didn't call you an american, I just compared your reasoning to american reasoning
23:06 <Lizmatic> same thing
23:06 <Lizmatic> :(
23:06 <Lucifer> you need to read my craigslist posting where I talked about women who don't understand metaphors
23:06 <Lizmatic> you have a craigslist thingy? lol
23:06 <ct|kyle> lol
23:07 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, he's using craigslist to find women who are shit in bed =P
23:07 <Lucifer> no, I used--past tense--craigslist to find *a* woman who was shit in bed
23:07 <Lucifer> I don't normally make the same mistake twice
23:08 <Lucifer> http://www.liveoak360.com/ <--- that's the company I'm interviewing with
23:08 <Lizmatic> what is craigslist anyway?
23:09 <epsy> if you can fuck the flash out their website... :)
23:09 <Lucifer> it's a place for finding women who are shit in bed
23:09 <BabyBug> Oh erm..how'd that phone interview go Lucifer?
23:09 <Lucifer> BabyBug: it went very well
23:09 <Lucifer> I scored an in-person interview on Friday :)
23:09 <BabyBug> ooo yay \o/ =D
23:09 <Lucifer> he asked me about private, protected, and public members and subclasses
23:09 <epsy> Excellent!
23:09 <Lizmatic> woot woot for Lucifer
23:10 <Lucifer> I don't know php5, but I answered with C++'s inheritance rules and he said none of the other candidates he'd talked to had gotten that question right yet, but I did :)
23:10 <epsy> grm, the flash on their website is missized
23:10 <ct|kyle> heh
23:11 <ct|kyle> inheritance is different in JAVA i think
23:11 <Lucifer> I had to answer a few questions with answers from different languages, but he said I got the concepts right and that's what matters :)
23:11 <Lucifer> so, maybe knowing php4, python, and c++ will get me the job? ;)
23:12 <BabyBug> is php5 that much different?
23:12 <epsy> yes, annoyingly
23:12 <Lucifer> it's supposed to add real OOP sugar
23:12 <BabyBug> ohs
23:12 <Lucifer> php4 doesn't really have OOP, it just has hacks to make it look like it does
23:12 <BabyBug> i want library developers to hurry up with python3 support =(
23:13 <Lucifer> but we have to rewrite so much crap because of Guido's crazy sense of purity
23:13 <Lucifer> which is probably for the best, otherwise python would just turn into php anyway
23:13 <BabyBug> guido?
23:13 <Lucifer> he asked me if I inherited a code base that somebody else had written, what would I prefer?
23:14 <Lucifer> a) good code and a bad database
23:14 <Lucifer> b) bad code and a good database
23:14 <Lucifer> BabyBug: the HNIC of python is named Guido
23:14 <BabyBug> HNIC?
23:14 <epsy> sounds like he's talking about their codebase
23:14 <Lucifer> Head African-American In Charge
23:14 <BabyBug> lol
23:14 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: you should say either or
23:14 <epsy> but erm, if it's good code, you should be able to change DB
23:15 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: I told him I'd prefer the good database because I can rewrite the code, but I don't want to have to migrate the database
23:15 <epsy> so a)
23:15 <BabyBug> bad good, good db
23:15 <BabyBug> yay
23:15 <BabyBug> i'm clever!
23:15 <BabyBug> s/good/code/ =x
23:16 <epsy> now it depends on what DB means :)
23:16 <epsy> DB software? DB structure?
23:16 <Lucifer> php/mysql was part of the question
23:17 <PinkTomato> When it says passphrase for making a ssh key, what does it use it for?
23:17 <Lucifer> it's going to prompt you every time you use the key
23:18 <Lucifer> if you want the key for scripts, or if you just want to use it to avoid a password prompt, leave it blank
23:18 <epsy> mine's ******
23:18 <Lucifer> epsy: mine too
23:18 <BabyBug> and mine!
23:18 <epsy> how did you see my password??
23:18 <PinkTomato> is it wise to have a passphrase?
23:18 <epsy> yes, but not really, but yes
23:19 <Lucifer> yes, you should have a passphrase, but nobody does
23:19 <Lucifer> only noobs have passphrases
23:19 <BabyBug> that's just like saying only noobs dont run things as root
23:19 <Lucifer> no it's not
23:19 <BabyBug> yes it is
23:20 <Lucifer> noobs run things as root
23:20 <epsy> well, I have a passphrase, but for pgp
23:20 <Lucifer> if you want to be truly geeky, you'll make an alias for sudo called simon_says
23:21 <BabyBug> linux needs a way of creating for than one root account!
23:21 <epsy> simon_says make me a sandwhich?
23:21 <Lucifer> linux has a way to create more than one account that can do all the things root can, but there is only one root
23:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, how?
23:21 <BabyBug> :P
23:21 <Lucifer> I don't remember, I never do that :)
23:21 <epsy> l33t h4x
23:21 <BabyBug> >< arf
23:22 <Lucifer> you can google as well as I can
23:22 <Lucifer> or at least, you can google from your web browser
23:22 <BabyBug> i googled for a long while and never found the answer :P
23:22 <epsy> IMO
23:22 <epsy> From Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia.
23:22 <epsy> Jump to: navigation, search
23:22 <epsy> This is an acronym which I cannot explain due to my inability to remain impartial.
23:28 <Lucifer> oh, heh, it took me awhile to figure out you were telling us that is for the acronym IMO
23:29 <epsy> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Xbox
23:30 <epsy> I love the "typical xbox game"
23:33 <PinkTomato> Launchpad seems to miss a step
23:34 <Lizmatic> last 2 bosses of naxx ftw \o/
23:34 <epsy> dont be bot-like
23:34 <Lucifer> who's being bot-like?
23:35 <epsy> depends on what you call bot-like
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23:37 <PinkTomato> Does LP take time to update?
23:38 <epsy> what do you mean?
23:38 <PinkTomato> No worries, it worked
23:38 <PinkTomato> :)
23:39 <PinkTomato> https://code.launchpad.net/~dobbyj/+junk/www-armagetronad-match :)
23:51 <BabyBug> what's that meant to be PinkTomato?
23:52 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I posted the source to the match server I'm attempting to develop
23:52 <BabyBug> attempting? lol
23:53 <PinkTomato> Yeah, I think the project is too big for me :D
23:53 <PinkTomato> I've not done any production-based PHP. :)
23:53 <epsy> « The BFG is a very awesome gun. It emits a Green Sphere which kills everything in the room before exiting the computer through the monitor and killing everyone in the house. »
23:54 <PinkTomato> what's that epsy?
23:54 <epsy> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Quake_(video_game_series)
23:55 <PinkTomato> You can spend hours on that site :D
23:55 <epsy> « John Carmack of id Software comments that "the idea of respawns in the multiplayer game was inspired by Jesus, who respawned 3 days after he saw the pretty lights from 1337_h4x0r's BFG." »
23:56 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, you need a todo list :P
23:56 <BabyBug> or some sort of attack plan written down at least :P
23:57 <epsy> « Quake 3 is at the end because it is not actually a video game. It is an instant messaging client that allows users to kill each other in a virtual 3D environment with devices that resemble weapons. Those without an internet connection can have in-depth conversations with chat bots using one of the best AIs ever created (called id tech 3). »
23:57 <epsy> the bot part is so true lol
23:58 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I have a fuzzy idea :), I'll write it down, eventually. There are a few TODO's scattered around with bugs I found.
23:59 <PinkTomato> Login/Logout is a little hacky
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00:00 <PinkTomato> (which isn't where you want hacky code, i know that :))
00:01 <BabyBug> lol
00:03 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, do you ever use classes? lol
00:04 * epsy understands building a class instance every 2ms is not the first thing a php programmer will think about
00:04 <PinkTomato> I should figure out how to use them :). I hope its not too bad... at least it uses includes...
00:08 <BabyBug> why split the pages up, like addsetting.php and addsetting2.php? wouldn't it be easier to have them as one?
00:10 <PinkTomato> Should I do if(isset($_POST)) then?
00:10 <PinkTomato> I'm not sure on the cleanest way to do that
00:10 <PinkTomato> ah It would be a $_GET['step'] I guess?
00:10 <epsy> check for what vars the form fills
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00:11 <epsy> *cough* abuse mod_rewrite all you want *cough*
00:12 <PinkTomato> I haven't used that before
00:12 <PinkTomato> I'm aware of it though
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00:18 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, why do you have 2 files to under a mysql user and pass in?
00:18 <BabyBug> in the root dir, and www dir?
00:18 <BabyBug> oh wait
00:18 <BabyBug> ignore me
00:18 <BabyBug> blonde moment
00:21 <PinkTomato> :)
00:24 <BabyBug> although i love how you have a class (sort of) for one and not the other xD
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00:24 <PinkTomato> I should note I didn't write the class in the / directory :)
00:25 <BabyBug> lol ^^
00:26 <BabyBug> might want to make a simple templating system for the www directory, rather than mixing PHP and HTML code (if you hadn't already thought of that)
00:26 <PinkTomato> I didn't think of that :)
00:27 <PinkTomato> the book I learnt PHP from was very old.
00:27 <BabyBug> lol ^^
00:27 <PinkTomato> it annyoyed me when $_SESSION didn't work.
00:28 <PinkTomato> or it was a significant change along those lines
00:28 <BabyBug> lol
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00:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Halls-of-Death-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
00:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Kingdom-Blood-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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00:47 <Durka_> PinkTomato: \o
00:47 <PinkTomato> Durka_: \o
00:48 <Durka_> so i think im gonna buy it
00:49 <Durka_> do u have time to help me possibly?
00:49 <Durka_> :O
00:49 <PinkTomato> oo, not really though, early day tomorrow
00:50 <Durka_> how early?
00:50 <Durka_> what time gmt?
00:50 <PinkTomato> its 12 atm, not too early, probably 8am maybe.
00:51 <PinkTomato> Won't you have to wait for it to process though:?
00:51 <Durka_> it says 10 min
00:51 <Durka_> :O
00:52 <PinkTomato> that's fast!
00:54 <ct|kyle> o0 what's Durka_ going to purchase
00:54 <PinkTomato> One of those VPS things
00:54 <ct|kyle> one like smoothice got?
00:54 <PinkTomato> same company yeah :)
00:56 <Durka_> i read the wiki tho
00:56 <Durka_> i think i understand it
00:57 <PinkTomato> You can do all the file organising in SFTP
00:57 <Durka_> yea i have a program i can do that with
00:57 <Durka_> i just gotta figure out this SSH stuff
00:57 <Durka_> luke jr was tryin to walk me thru it
00:57 <Durka_> but i couldnt understand him
00:57 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: talked about keys?
00:58 <Durka_> no
00:58 <Durka_> he basically said
00:58 <Durka_> RTFM!
00:58 <PinkTomato> hehe :)
00:58 <PinkTomato> Yeah, it is not too hard
00:59 <PinkTomato> just ssh [username]@[host]
00:59 <PinkTomato> will prompt for password
00:59 <PinkTomato> and your done
00:59 <ct|kyle> RTFMP
00:59 <ct|kyle> Read The F****** Man page
01:00 <PinkTomato> xD
01:00 <luke-jr> …
01:00 <PinkTomato> Hi luke-jr :)
01:02 <ct|kyle> I'll probably get one of those VPS's someday, I want CTWF US :)
01:03 <PinkTomato> They are really cheap Oo
01:03 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org
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01:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that's too much :P
01:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Halls-of-Death-1.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
01:04 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: and i want to manage my own scripts an stuff
01:04 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what's too much?
01:04 <luke-jr> and you CAN manage your own scripts
01:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: your price
01:05 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: cheapest on the market afaik
01:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I know but I also like updated binaries
01:06 <luke-jr> and?
01:06 <ct|kyle> I want a place i can test new code
01:07 <luke-jr> so work with me on a bandwidth-based plan ;p
01:08 <PinkTomato> is Durka_ still there?
01:08 <luke-jr> e_n_d_e_r: poke
01:08 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: Durka_ is never here for more than 5 minutes
01:09 <Durka_> im here :x
01:13 <PinkTomato> Durka_: So are you purchasing a server?
01:17 <luke-jr> should get a server from meeee
01:17 <Durka_> yea
01:17 <Durka_> not from luke :p
01:17 <BabyBug> luke-jr, if i come up with a decent bandwidth billing plan do i get a free server? :D
01:18 <luke-jr> Durka_: should be from me :/
01:18 <luke-jr> my servers r best
01:19 <BabyBug> i'll take that as a nooo then...
01:20 <luke-jr> BabyBug: first GB free ;p
01:20 <BabyBug> hrmm..OK!
01:21 <BabyBug> It's gonna take a while to use a GB surely :D
01:21 <PinkTomato> what does a GB get?
01:21 <PinkTomato> I'm not too sure BabyBug
01:21 <BabyBug> a GB of traffic just from a tron server
01:21 <PinkTomato> Um...
01:21 <BabyBug> surely it must take ages to use that much..
01:21 <PinkTomato> More like 30GB
01:22 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, what are you on about? =P
01:22 <PinkTomato> That's what Hyper.Vm say I used last month Oo, not that I believe it.
01:22 <BabyBug> luke-jr, didn't you get some server usage stats?
01:26 <luke-jr> BabyBug: yeah
01:26 <BabyBug> got them to hand? :P
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01:28 <nsh22> hey hey hey
01:28 <PinkTomato> hi nsh22
01:29 <nsh22> hey pink
01:29 <BabyBug> ct|kyle! someone to scare!
01:29 <BabyBug> :D
01:32 <nsh22> u also tend to ick him when he trues to cuddle you lol
01:32 <nsh22> kcik8
01:32 <nsh22> kick**
01:33 <BabyBug> well duh! he's trying to cuddle me!
01:33 <BabyBug> he has no right to
01:33 <luke-jr> 279 MB = 8-slot
01:33 <luke-jr> 202 MB = 4-slot for 3 weeks + 26-slot for 1 week
01:33 <luke-jr> 2038 MB = 4-slot + 6-slot + 10-slot + 4-slot
01:33 <luke-jr> 70 MB = 0-slot
01:33 <luke-jr> 548 MB = 32-slot
01:34 <PinkTomato> hmmm... maybe I'm being DoS'ed and I don't know about it
01:34 <luke-jr> for the past month
01:34 <BabyBug> how does a 0 slot use 70mb?
01:34 <PinkTomato> Wrtlprnft's scripts etc
01:34 <luke-jr> BabyBug: server polling
01:34 <nsh22> what are those stats for?
01:35 <luke-jr> TALK_TO_MASTER
01:35 <nsh22> oic
01:35 <luke-jr> nsh22: btw, did you ever send the app? did I get back to you?
01:35 <luke-jr> >_<
01:35 <BabyBug> ok well first off, you should offer the first 100mb a month for free then
01:35 <ct|kyle> so sinewav's servers use 2 GB / month
01:35 <nsh22> i sent it via email after you pmed me to email it instead of pm
01:35 <luke-jr> BabyBug: cmon, you need to give me somethign non-obvious ;)
01:35 <luke-jr> I thoguht you meant a well thought out setup
01:35 <luke-jr> LOL
01:36 <luke-jr> nsh22: crap, I misplaced it?
01:36 <BabyBug> luke-jr, i will make make a well thought out setup =)
01:36 <nsh22> luke-jr: possibly, just tellme what info you need and ill re email it
01:36 <BabyBug> I was just talking aloud to myself there really
01:36 <PinkTomato> how much is 548 MB = 32?
01:37 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ?
01:37 <luke-jr> 548 MB/mo is the demo server
01:37 <ct|kyle> how much RAM is used for each :P
01:37 <luke-jr> so it's kindof an anomoly
01:37 <BabyBug> just give me a weee bit of time though luke-jr :D
01:37 * nsh22 is wondering if he should post a link to his food site in the arma forums.....
01:37 <luke-jr> nsh22: what Sender name should I look for?
01:37 * nsh22 thinks no
01:37 <nsh22> nsh22
01:38 <luke-jr> u sent where? O.o
01:38 <nsh22> both to ur arma forum account and to you dashjr account
01:38 <PinkTomato> 32 Slot is £12.. hmmm... £2 150MB.
01:39 <nsh22> it was in my sentbox, but i looked one day and it was gone 0.o
01:39 <luke-jr> nsh22: nothing from 'nsh22' in email :/
01:40 <PinkTomato> That means sine server is £26 a month
01:40 <nsh22> oh, i found a sent pm with the stuff you want it
01:40 <nsh22> wanted*
01:40 <nsh22> the server request
01:40 <nsh22> where u want me to send it?
01:40 <luke-jr> luke_armairc@dashjr.org is fine
01:40 <nsh22> kk
01:41 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: basing this on an anomoly is a bad idea
01:42 <nsh22> kk i sent it
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01:44 <luke-jr> from?
01:44 <luke-jr> I have no new mail
01:45 <BabyBug> luke-jr, do you have statistics for individual servers? or do i have to try and calculate that =P
01:45 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that's them
01:46 <BabyBug> Hrmm..there's nothing indicating how often the servers get used either >< which could make things difficult :P
01:47 <BabyBug> in fact, from them statistics there's no way in hell you can reliably calculate the prices for a bandwidth plan ><
01:47 <luke-jr> lol
01:47 <nsh22> did u get it yet?
01:47 <BabyBug> you might as well of given me a leaf to work with
01:47 <BabyBug> lol
01:48 <PinkTomato> also depends on how much money luke-jr wants :)
01:48 <BabyBug> well, you can figure that out from his current price/slot
01:49 <BabyBug> Except when changing a pricing plan, it's tradition to make things more expensive, while making them seem cheaping =)
01:49 <BabyBug> cheaper*
01:49 <PinkTomato> price by byte then
01:50 <PinkTomato> wait, do MB, then you can go cheaper in the future
01:51 <BabyBug> luke-jr, if you're going to want a bandwidth based plan, you're going to need to be able to get bandwidth per server...so get them stats to me =P
01:53 <madmax> BabyBug: *have given
01:54 <BabyBug> madmax, what?
01:55 <madmax> some 76412 lines up, "you might as well of given" :-P
01:56 <BabyBug> madmax dear..
01:56 <BabyBug> shut up..lmao
01:57 <arrow> #tea
01:57 <@armabot> arrow: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:57 <madmax> I can't resist correcting the so called native speakers
01:57 * nsh22 wonders if luke jr got my email
01:57 <BabyBug> madmax, native?
01:59 <madmax> where are you from?
01:59 * ct|kyle kicks BabyBug
01:59 <BabyBug> missed!
01:59 <BabyBug> madmax, Wales
02:00 <PinkTomato> in the valleys
02:00 <PinkTomato> #night
02:00 <@armabot> Good night PinkTomato!
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02:01 <madmax> isn't english your first language then?
02:01 <BabyBug> madmax, newp
02:01 <madmax> welsh?
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02:02 <BabyBug> i only speak english on the internet and when i go to england (rarely) =P
02:02 <BabyBug> Aye Welsh =)
02:02 <nsh22> welshes grape juice?
02:02 <nsh22> lol
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02:02 <BabyBug> that's Welches dear...
02:02 <nsh22> oh ok
02:02 <nsh22> lol
02:03 <nsh22> close enough
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02:03 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: between 90% of our servers (not forums) CT uses 60 GByte
02:03 <nsh22> of bandwidth?
02:03 <ct|kyle> ya
02:03 <nsh22> holy sh!t
02:03 <luke-jr> BabyBug: I think I have a plan :D
02:03 <ct|kyle> that's everything but CTWF, dogfight and CT ladle 2
02:03 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, for all i know either yours or luke-jr's method of monitoring bandwidth is fucked up...So it's best to base the prices on lukes figures :P
02:04 <nsh22> appearently theres this elderly lady witha 40gb/second connection
02:04 <BabyBug> luke-jr, a plan?
02:04 <BabyBug> do i still get my free GB?
02:04 <madmax> speak some welsh!
02:05 <BabyBug> na (that was welsh for no)
02:05 <madmax> I have no idea of the differences heh. /me goes to wikipedia
02:05 <BabyBug> Ermm...quite alot of differences :P
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8821 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. batch/Makefile.am resource/Makefile.am):
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-13 Fixing build from tarball.
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-13 Oops, \ -> /.
02:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-13 Added new python stuff to EXTRA_DIST.
02:06 <nsh22> luke jr: did u get the email yet?
02:06 <BabyBug> madmax, dw i'n siarad Gymraeg iaith gyntaf (I speak welsh as my first language) That's not perfect welsh though, as we like to shorten things very much like English get's shortened into slang
02:06 <z-man> Oh crap, now that I read this, this should not have been merged at all :/
02:06 <luke-jr> nsh22: not sure yet
02:07 <nsh22> i think hotmail hates me
02:07 <z-man> Oh wait, no, wrong.
02:08 <madmax> gah, quite different indeed -_-
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02:08 <BabyBug> madmax, yes =P lol
02:08 <BabyBug> we also have a slightly weird alphabet =)
02:09 <BabyBug> "ch" <-- That's one letter in the alphabet for example...That's NOT two letters together..
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02:09 <madmax> yeah, I was looking at the wiki page, 'ff', wth!?
02:09 <nsh22> oops, pressed wrong X
02:10 <BabyBug> lol
02:10 <nsh22> what i miss?
02:10 <BabyBug> DD, FF, LL, PH, RH, TH
02:10 <BabyBug> all single letters :P
02:10 <BabyBug> NG aswell
02:11 <nsh22> ??
02:12 <BabyBug> nsh22, trick question: How many letters are in this word: Llanelli
02:12 <madmax> it's a trap!
02:12 <nsh22> 7?
02:12 <BabyBug> no..
02:12 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r785 Merging from 0.3.1:...
02:12 <BabyBug> how the hell did you get 7
02:13 <nsh22> iunno
02:13 <nsh22> guessed
02:13 <BabyBug> madmax, take a guess! :P
02:13 <BabyBug> although you could just count the letters...
02:14 <nsh22> 8?
02:14 <BabyBug> Wrong
02:14 <nsh22> 0?
02:14 <BabyBug> wrong ><
02:14 * madmax feels inclined to say 2
02:14 <BabyBug> ...
02:14 <BabyBug> 6!
02:14 <BabyBug> there's 6!
02:14 <madmax> ^^
02:14 <BabyBug> Ll, a, n, e, ll, i
02:14 <BabyBug> 6..
02:14 <nsh22> ah
02:14 <madmax> there could another weird rule that stitched all of those together
02:15 <BabyBug> lol
02:15 <BabyBug> There's no weird rule...
02:15 <BabyBug> So
02:15 <BabyBug> Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch <-- Count the letters in that one!
02:15 <nsh22> pi
02:15 <nsh22> count the didgits on that
02:15 <madmax> haha, is that a word?
02:16 <BabyBug> madmax, yes. It's the name of a village
02:16 <nsh22> wtf
02:16 <nsh22> how would u use that in a sentance ;)
02:16 <madmax> oh, I think I've seen a picture of a plate with that
02:16 <madmax> or at least something similar
02:16 <BabyBug> "I went to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch"
02:16 <BabyBug> that's how you'd use it in a sentence
02:16 <BabyBug> lol
02:16 <BabyBug> you twit =P
02:16 * nsh22 hides
02:16 <madmax> here's one, Pneumoultramicroscopicossilicovulcanoconiótico
02:17 <nsh22> a bcteria
02:17 <nsh22> ?
02:17 <madmax> a person that has a particular pulmonar disease
02:17 <nsh22> 0o
02:18 <BabyBug> Well now that's just silly
02:18 <BabyBug> It least we shorten ours for every day use (Llanfair PG)
02:18 <madmax> related to vulcanic ashes (©wikipedia)
02:18 <BabyBug> at*
02:18 <nsh22> thought si
02:18 <nsh22> so*
02:18 <madmax> that one is the longest portuguese word :P
02:19 * madmax has serious doubts the people of that village know its name
02:19 <BabyBug> lmao
02:19 <BabyBug> it's not hard to pronounce once you know how =)
02:20 <madmax> well know you'll have to upload a recording pronouncing it
02:20 <BabyBug> i don't have a mic
02:20 <madmax> er, *now
02:20 <BabyBug> there's plenty of recordings on the internet anywhoo
02:20 <madmax> :-/
02:21 <BabyBug> or there was a couple of years ago
02:21 <BabyBug> lol
02:22 <madmax> there's on youtube I see
02:22 <nsh22> the longest name of a ciyt is for bankok
02:22 <madmax> well it takes pretty long nonetheless lol
02:23 <nsh22> lol
02:24 <BabyBug> all the videos on youtube are english numnuts pronouncing it wrong =P
02:24 <madmax> lol
02:24 <Lucifer> confucious say man who go sideways through turnstile going to bangkok
02:25 <nsh22> lol random quote
02:25 <nsh22> whats up lucifer?
02:25 <Lucifer> not much
02:25 <nsh22> lol
02:25 <Lucifer> well, this week's been a good week, mostly
02:25 * nsh22 is waiting to see if luke jr got the email
02:25 <nsh22> well thats good
02:25 <nsh22> whats so good about it?
02:25 <Lucifer> well, today I had a phone interview that went very well
02:25 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: except for your problems in the bed :P
02:26 <Lucifer> The guy invited me to go down to the office on Friday and meet everyone there
02:26 <nsh22> oh, with the recruiter?
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02:26 <madmax> hey, good luck with that ;)
02:26 <Lucifer> it's not quite an interview, so I'm thinking I've got the job, but I don't want to prematurely celebrate
02:26 <nsh22> ya
02:26 <nsh22> just dont sleep in till like 2 this time lol
02:26 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: yeah, except for that
02:26 <luke-jr> nsh22: Server location Preference:
02:26 <Lucifer> still, first time with someone since the divorce is good, right?
02:26 <nsh22> conneticuit
02:27 <nsh22> lol u got a new girl?
02:27 <Lucifer> nsh22: I haven't yet been able to get a recruiter to talk straight to me
02:27 <nsh22> oh ok
02:27 <Lucifer> no, this was, ummm, just that once
02:27 <nsh22> lol 1 night stand
02:27 <Lucifer> as ct|kyle (hi there!) indicated, there won't be a second time with her, heh
02:27 <BabyBug> anyone, what song is being played at the beginning of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wohlwyxr3PI
02:27 <luke-jr> nsh22: Billing Address
02:27 <nsh22> coulda just said that
02:28 <nsh22> want me to just email it to you?
02:28 <nsh22> rather than putting it over the irc?
02:28 <luke-jr> shrug
02:28 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: an annoying song that i got a friend pissed off
02:28 <nsh22> did u get the last email?
02:28 <luke-jr> yes
02:28 <BabyBug> luke-jr, nsh22, why dont you two love birds just /query?
02:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no idea
02:29 <Lucifer> although, after hearing that lady pronounce the word, I'm still undecided if that makes welsh women sexier or less sexy
02:29 <BabyBug> it would probably help if the woman was sexy, no? lol
02:29 <madmax> BabyBug: it's a theme song from the muppets afaik
02:29 <madmax> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPRB4XF74-Q
02:30 <BabyBug> ahhhhhhhhh
02:30 <BabyBug> ty!
02:30 <nsh22> ok, i got place, adress....
02:30 <nsh22> what eelse
02:30 <Lucifer> I thought that sounded like a muppet song
02:31 <nsh22> http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 funny song and vid (adultish themes)
02:31 <luke-jr> nsh22: version
02:31 <luke-jr> nsh22: you said 2.8, but 2.8 is like 10 years away
02:31 <BabyBug> 100*
02:31 <nsh22> is 0.2.8 better?
02:32 <luke-jr> :þ
02:32 <BabyBug> well lets work it out (i'm bored)...How many years has arma been in development?
02:32 <nsh22> ?
02:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: u don't want it to start today?
02:32 <nsh22> yes i do, im putting that in there as well
02:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: like 9 years
02:32 <madmax> BabyBug, odaf yn gynnar yfory, da bo chi!
02:32 <madmax> where do I get my degree now...
02:32 <nsh22> starting date: ASAP
02:33 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: will 2.8 have Ramps?
02:33 <luke-jr> :þ
02:33 <nsh22> what does that mean?
02:33 <BabyBug> madmax, did you use a translator for that?
02:33 <nsh22> lol 2.8 will be 4D probably
02:33 <luke-jr> …….
02:33 <madmax> nope :-P
02:33 <nsh22> :/
02:33 <BabyBug> i can't make any sense of it
02:33 <BabyBug> lol
02:34 <nsh22> any other info?
02:34 <madmax> :-O
02:34 <BabyBug> something about you cumming tomorrow?
02:34 <BabyBug> lol
02:34 <madmax> haha
02:34 <nsh22> lol
02:34 <Lucifer> that's fucked up
02:34 <nsh22> "
02:34 <Lucifer> after watching that video I jizzed in my pants
02:34 <nsh22> lol
02:34 <nsh22> haha
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02:34 <madmax> BabyBug: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_language look under example sentences
02:35 <nsh22> its fucked, but i (being a 16y/o) find it hilariuos
02:35 <Lucifer> hey babybug, if you have a sexy voice with a sexy accent, we could use some sound samples...
02:35 <nsh22> i open a window and a breeze come in and i..
02:35 <madmax> she said she doesn't have a mic!
02:35 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no mic
02:35 * madmax tried
02:35 <Lucifer> oh
02:36 <Lucifer> probably for the better
02:36 * nsh22 is playing the song via teamspeak
02:36 <Lucifer> we wouldn't want our player base to jizz in their pants
02:36 <nsh22> haha
02:36 <madmax> haha
02:36 <BabyBug> madmax, i'm still confused what you meant.. lol
02:36 <madmax> did you check the page?
02:36 <nsh22> ""she asked" cash or credit" and i jizzed in my pants""
02:36 <BabyBug> yes
02:36 <BabyBug> lol
02:36 <nsh22> lol funny song
02:37 <Lucifer> well, the girl last night isn't scared off, but she's back in cali and wont' be back in austin for a couple of weeks
02:37 <nsh22> 1 more hing im gonna pay by cheque
02:37 <madmax> that was supposed to be something like "I'll get up early tomorrow, bye"
02:37 <nsh22> i just ate a grape and i ....
02:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8822 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Daniel Lee Harple: Enabled sound again. Be sure to update to latest osxlibs package from https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110997&package_id=266788
02:37 <BabyBug> madmax, that should be Codaf, not odaf >< and welsh for bye is 'hwyl'
02:38 <madmax> does welsh have a random syntax too? :P
02:38 <madmax> heh, I saw 'da bo chi' as an informal goodbye
02:38 <Lucifer> madmax: as I understand it, it's loosely based on C syntax
02:39 <BabyBug> informal way? :s
02:39 <nsh22> kk i sent another email, luke
02:40 <Lucifer> I thought welsh was a dead language
02:40 <luke-jr> I am winful.
02:40 <madmax> so I guess my main obstacle is the morphology?
02:40 <nsh22> ?
02:40 <BabyBug> madmax, that's more a preaching christian way of saying goodbye.. =P
02:40 <madmax> lol
02:40 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no it's not dead you ho
02:40 <madmax> I blame the Internets then, http://www.101languages.net/welsh/basics.html
02:40 <Lucifer> 'ho'
02:41 <Lucifer> you need the apostrophes, because it's really just the word "whore" spoken with a particular accent
02:41 <nsh22> a garden hoe maybe?
02:41 <Lucifer> a backhoe?
02:41 <Lucifer> oooo
02:41 <Lucifer> a crackhoe!
02:41 <madmax> anyway, hwyl is quite messed up as it is
02:41 <nsh22> LAND HO!!!!!
02:41 <Lucifer> that made me jizz in my pants
02:41 <BabyBug> lmao madmax you're messed up :P
02:42 <nsh22> hahaha lucifer
02:42 <madmax> come on, only languages with vowels make some sense
02:42 <nsh22> i think your the only 1 who actually watche dthat
02:42 <BabyBug> we have vowels!
02:42 <Lucifer> y is a vowel
02:42 <BabyBug> we have more vowels than english does..
02:42 <Lucifer> nsh22: I probably am, heh
02:42 <nsh22> haha
02:42 <nsh22> i know some1 hwho can recite this by heart
02:42 <Lucifer> well, I think I'm a go cook dinner and then jizz in my pants
02:42 <nsh22> lol
02:43 <madmax> erm, a vowel in english?
02:43 <nsh22> you have fun with taht
02:43 <BabyBug> Lucifer, how did you know y was a vowel?
02:43 <nsh22> y is a vowel in english
02:43 <nsh22> ssometimes
02:43 <BabyBug> no it's not..
02:43 <nsh22> like in "why:
02:43 <Lucifer> because here in america, we learn that the vowels of the english language are a, e, i, o, u, and sometimes y
02:43 <nsh22> lol
02:43 * nsh22 sings that little song
02:43 <BabyBug> y is not not an english vowel
02:43 <nsh22> yes it is, sometimes
02:43 <Lucifer> yes it is
02:43 <BabyBug> no it's not
02:43 <nsh22> slie in why
02:43 <Lucifer> ok, what's the vowel in sky?
02:43 <Lucifer> glyph?
02:44 <Lucifer> myth?
02:44 <nsh22> crypt
02:44 <nsh22> spy
02:44 <Lucifer> dyckeater
02:44 <BabyBug> perhaps i need a real explination of a vowel..
02:44 <nsh22> lol
02:44 <nsh22> ok, seroiously you guys, can we.....
02:44 * nsh22 continues with song
02:44 <Lucifer> a vowel is vocalized in the back of the throat, using only your tongue, you know, where my, um, yeah, back there
02:44 <madmax> that's Lucifer's cue
02:45 <Lucifer> consonants use the front of the mouth, tongue, lips, and teeth
02:45 <Lucifer> so, vowels are deepthroat, and consonants are just regular stuff
02:45 <Lucifer> to put it in terms you'd understand :)
02:45 <nsh22> rly i didnt know that. i just learned something from tron yay
02:45 <BabyBug> ok well...welsh still has more vowels!
02:45 <nsh22> my life is fufiled
02:46 <BabyBug> there you go Lucifer, Welsh people are more sexy, we give more deep throats =P
02:46 <Lucifer> in most sane languages (i.e. non-slavic and non-germanic), vowels are needed between consonants because you can't pronounce two consonants in a row without inserting a vowel sound
02:47 <BabyBug> well in answer to madmax's earlier comment of " come on, only languages with vowels make some sense" ...w is a vowel...so hwyl is totally fine
02:47 <Lucifer> w isn't a vowel in english
02:48 <nsh22> J*zz in my pants Lyrics
02:48 <nsh22> Lock eyes from across the room
02:48 <nsh22> down my drink while the rhythms boom
02:48 <madmax> ok so, regular vowels!
02:48 <nsh22> take your hand and skip the names
02:48 <nsh22> no need here for the silly games
02:48 <nsh22> make our way through the smoke and crowd
02:48 <nsh22> the club is the sky and I’m on your cloud
02:48 <nsh22> move in close as the lasers fly
02:48 <nsh22> our bodies touch and the angels cry
02:48 <Lucifer> #kick nsh22
02:48 <nsh22> leave this place go back to yours
02:48 <nsh22> our lips first touch outside your doors
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02:48 <BabyBug> Lucifer, in welsh it's pronounced as oo, as in ..."zoo"...so...yeh..
02:48 <BabyBug> it's fine
02:48 <madmax> we only have a,e,i,o,u in portuguese
02:48 <Lucifer> really? you don't have j as a sometimes vowel?
02:49 <Lucifer> er wait, nvm
02:49 <BabyBug> h is sometimes a vowel here
02:49 <Lucifer> I guess that wouldn't make sense
02:49 <BabyBug> y is always a vowel
02:49 <madmax> no
02:49 <Lucifer> BabyBug: why don't you guys just use a different alphabet?
02:49 <BabyBug> Lucifer, we do?
02:49 <Lucifer> that way those portuguese people wouldn't think you're weird
02:49 <Lucifer> not that iberians have any sense of what's normal, mind you
02:49 <BabyBug> a, b, c, ch, d, dd, e, f, ff..etc etc...
02:50 <madmax> pffft.
02:50 <BabyBug> Totally different from the english alphabet :P
02:50 <Lucifer> I mean one that's not latin in origin
02:50 <BabyBug> uhh
02:50 <BabyBug> Why should we?
02:50 <Lucifer> [19:49] <Lucifer> that way those portuguese people wouldn't think you're weird
02:51 <BabyBug> ok let me rephrase
02:51 <BabyBug> Why should we give a hoot about what Portuguese people think?
02:51 <madmax> how could that be better?
02:51 <Lucifer> ah, indeed, you've asked a very deep question, BabyBug (hi there!)
02:51 <BabyBug> >< lol
02:52 <BabyBug> The Welsh accent rocks though! We always sound like we're singing it's so beautiful =D
02:52 <Lucifer> heh
02:52 <Lucifer> get a mic
02:52 <BabyBug> lol
02:52 <Lucifer> hmm, maybe that's how the english conquered you so easily
02:53 <Lucifer> you were too busy singing
02:53 <madmax> speaking of welsh, the Dakar daily is on (yeah, totally related)
02:53 <Lucifer> the english brought swords and longbows, and you brought songs
02:53 * madmax is off
02:53 <BabyBug> Lizmatic keeps pestering me for a mic...i don't want you doing it to ><
02:53 <Lucifer> I have purely professional arma reasons for wanting it
02:53 <Lucifer> assuming your voice and accent are sexy, of course
02:53 <BabyBug> such as.....?
02:53 <BabyBug> what uses would they be
02:54 <@armabot> lpbugs: [317324] *DEAD* Prefix Missing From /team Message
02:54 <Lucifer> well, you've heard the announcer's voice in 0.3.0?
02:54 <BabyBug> yeh
02:54 <Lucifer> the plan is to have many things the announcer says
02:54 <Lucifer> and a way to disable them, of course
02:54 <Lucifer> (which there isn't right now)
02:54 <Lucifer> we'll need someone to provide the voice for the announcer at that time
02:55 <BabyBug> in a sexy womans voice instead of an stupid mans voice?
02:55 <Lucifer> not just sexy, but english with a sexy accent (british accent isn't sexy enough)
02:55 <BabyBug> I probably wouldn't be able to record it...
02:55 <Lucifer> I was wanting an eastern european accent, but I'll take any sexy accent that comes along
02:55 <BabyBug> I giggle way too much
02:56 * ct|kyle can't wait for the new splash screen :P
02:56 * Lucifer hasn't received it yet
02:56 <BabyBug> what splash screen?
02:56 <Lucifer> let's not talk about it
02:56 <ct|kyle> lol
02:56 <BabyBug> ...
02:56 <BabyBug> talk
02:56 <BabyBug> now
02:56 <Lucifer> oh, time to make dinner, bbiab
02:56 <BabyBug> no!
02:56 <ct|kyle> no you don't cuddle anymore
02:56 <ct|kyle> :P
02:56 <BabyBug> Lucifer...... ><
02:57 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i'm not allowed to cuddle =x
02:57 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I'm not allowed to speak about that thingy
02:58 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, nothing's going to happen if you do though.
02:58 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: may kill me
02:58 <BabyBug> no he wont
02:58 <BabyBug> i'll stop him
02:58 <ct|kyle> actually the temp will stop him LOL
02:58 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
02:59 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 3.9°F (8:58 PM EST on January 14, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect from midnight tonight to 12 PM EST Friday...
02:59 <BabyBug> ok well fine
02:59 <ct|kyle> wow that hot still
02:59 <BabyBug> tell me then =P
02:59 <BabyBug> You tell me, and i'll give you a cuddle!
03:00 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no you won't
03:00 <BabyBug> yes i will
03:01 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no you won't you're not allowed to
03:01 <BabyBug> i'll only get a spanking which i'll enjoy
03:01 <BabyBug> so tell me
03:01 <ct|kyle> well if you enjoy the spanking why don't you just cuddle me
03:02 <BabyBug> because i need bribe material against you
03:03 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I told you as much as i know already
03:03 <BabyBug> you haven't told me anything
03:04 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: exactly because the rest of the details are unknown
03:04 <BabyBug> so you know nothing?
03:04 <ct|kyle> nothing more than what i stated i was waiting for
03:04 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:04 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, then no cuddles
03:04 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: Fail
03:05 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:05 <BabyBug> I said tell me and you get a cuddle. If you know nothing more, you can't tell me, because it's impossible to portray nothingness
03:05 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:06 * ct|kyle smacks BabyBug
03:06 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:06 <BabyBug> just because you know i'm right
03:06 <BabyBug> lol
03:06 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:06 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:06 <BabyBug> and lucifer isn't here for his "typical girl logic" crap
03:06 <BabyBug> \o/
03:06 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:06 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:06 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:07 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you said you had a plan before..what plan?
03:07 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron
03:07 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
03:07 <luke-jr> BabyBug: still has kinks
03:07 <BabyBug> ...
03:07 <BabyBug> you'll end up scrapping it
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03:09 <luke-jr> BabyBug: http://rafb.net/p/eEbYXo63.html
03:10 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: LOL
03:10 <luke-jr> <.<
03:11 <ct|kyle> #g 60 euros in USD
03:11 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 60 Euros = 79.02600 U.S. dollars
03:11 <luke-jr> #g 120 euro in USD
03:11 <@armabot> luke-jr: 120 Euros = 158.05200 U.S. dollars
03:11 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that 60 GB was only on 1 of those 2 Dedicated servers
03:11 <luke-jr> …
03:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: next time say so, so I don't bother trying
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03:13 <ct|kyle> lol :S luke-jr, and that also has online player information in it too
03:13 <BabyBug> luke-jr, just out of interest, how are you planning to monitor the bandwidth they use?
03:14 <luke-jr> BabyBug: netfilter
03:14 <BabyBug> luke-jr, so why not use that to get some real statistics and base your plan off them?
03:14 <luke-jr> BabyBug: i did
03:14 <luke-jr> i pasted them earlier
03:15 <BabyBug> Uhh no. That was a collection of arma servers...
03:15 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r981 Enabled sound again. Be sure to update to latest osxlibs pac...
03:15 <BabyBug> Not individual arma servers..
03:15 <luke-jr> individual customers
03:15 <luke-jr> all but one of which were single-server
03:15 <BabyBug> but still...to generate a decent pricing plan, you need to figure out what an individual server uses..
03:16 <BabyBug> and know how often the server gets used
03:17 <luke-jr> …
03:17 <luke-jr> I ended up taking the sum of all the paid accounts (minus 100 MB each) bandwidth and comparing it to the income provided by those same accounts
03:18 <BabyBug> that's a flawed way of doing it =P
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03:20 <luke-jr> is it?
03:20 <BabyBug> yesh
03:20 <luke-jr> how so?
03:21 <luke-jr> oh, I forgot to mention +$5 maintenance fee ;p
03:21 <ct|kyle> and luke-jr I can run up to 400 GB bandwidth for $10.00
03:22 <kattollikisd> can someone here tell me how do I change the color of my car?
03:22 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, that's on a forever repeating timer btw
03:23 <BabyBug> luke-jr, it just is =x
03:23 <BabyBug> I'm shit an explaining things so don't know how to say why
03:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: can you?
03:23 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya
03:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I mean, sure, I will believe your bandwidth cap is $10, but I doubt you can actually DO that with just Armagetron ;)
03:23 <luke-jr> s/$10/400 GB/
03:24 <luke-jr> to hit 400 GB with Armagetron, I bet you'd need a dedicated machine a number of times more powerful than what your VPS is
03:24 <ct|kyle> ya
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03:25 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: would you please kill that timer every 5 seconds
03:25 <BabyBug> lol you ass
03:25 <BabyBug> =P
03:26 <BabyBug> mwahahaha that'll teach you to try cuddle me :D
03:26 * ct|kyle cuddles babybug
03:26 <ct|kyle> :P
03:26 <BabyBug> *kicks away(
03:26 <BabyBug> **
03:26 <ct|kyle> lol
03:27 <ct|kyle> #si -v racing 2
03:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “racing 2” at the moment, sorry.
03:28 <BabyBug> #si -v racing II
03:28 <ct|kyle> #si -v racing II
03:28 <@armabot> BabyBug: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (67.222.143.161:4540) running 0.2.8_alpha20081214 unix dedicated, url: http://www.DeliciousDesserts.co.nr, Description: “There are currently 12 maps in rotation. Come race with us, it's whoever gets to the finish line wins! Good speed racing, different views, fun people, and many maps. Some maps have different axes.“, Players (11/14): ., 1225, (1 more message)
03:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (67.222.143.161:4540) running 0.2.8_alpha20081214 unix dedicated, url: http://www.DeliciousDesserts.co.nr, Description: “There are currently 12 maps in rotation. Come race with us, it's whoever gets to the finish line wins! Good speed racing, different views, fun people, and many maps. Some maps have different axes.“, Players (11/14): ., 1225, (1 more message)
03:28 <BabyBug> beat you!
03:28 <ct|kyle> ^^ they should update
03:29 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:29 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
03:29 <BabyBug> JOIN!
03:30 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: No, you kick me
03:31 <BabyBug> Is that an order to kick you?
03:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no that was an order to cuddle me :P
03:32 <ct|kyle> stupid girl logic
03:32 <BabyBug> *kicks*
03:32 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:32 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (1/16): BabyBug
03:34 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:34 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (2/16): BabyBug, paperclip
03:34 <BabyBug> :D
03:34 <ct|kyle> #si -v open sumo
03:34 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (78.46.226.237:4535) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090115 unix dedicated, url: http://crazy-tronners.com/, Description: “Team Sumo Settings. First to be 1337 wins.“, Players (0/12):
03:40 <madmax> nexus9 still alive?
03:41 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:41 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (3/16): BabyBug, MFC, paperclip
03:41 <BabyBug> madmax!!
03:42 * madmax isn't going
03:42 <BabyBug> why?
03:42 <madmax> I'm trying to finish something until 3:30
03:42 <BabyBug> awww come on
03:43 <BabyBug> just a couple of rounds
03:43 <madmax> heh nope
03:43 <BabyBug> paperclip is asking for you!
03:44 <BabyBug> more importantly..i'm asking for yooh!
03:46 <BabyBug> pweaaaaaaase madmax =(
03:47 <madmax> lol can't
03:48 <BabyBug> one match!
03:51 <ct|kyle> #si -v wild fortress.
03:51 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (crazy-tronners.com:4534) running 0.2.8_alpha20070830 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “There's like all these weird maps, man.“, Players (0/14):
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03:52 <mib_v2ktww> hey yo all u out there
03:52 <mib_v2ktww> any one here me???
03:52 <luke-jr> nope
03:52 <luke-jr> sorry
03:53 <mib_v2ktww> great
03:53 <luke-jr> might check your microphone
03:53 <mib_v2ktww> how do you make your trail a different coler then you charector in the game
03:54 <mib_v2ktww> nvm
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03:56 <ct|kyle> LOL
03:57 <ct|kyle> IRC n00bs
04:04 <BabyBug> madmax!! :@
04:07 <BabyBug> madmax, oi! get back on.. lol
04:24 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, actually, you'd take the sum of the bandwidth used by all servers and divide it by the cost of the bandwidth for all servers
04:24 <Lucifer> that is, if you don't want to have to meter bandwidth for individual server operators
04:29 <BabyBug> shh Lucifer
04:35 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: and don't forgot to subtract 70*#ofServers from it first
04:36 <BabyBug> ?
04:36 <BabyBug> 100 actually ct|kyle
04:37 <ct|kyle> 70 MB = 0-slot
04:37 <BabyBug> we said earlier to round it up to 100
04:47 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
04:47 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 2.5°F (10:46 PM EST on January 14, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Windchill: 3.2°F. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect until 12 PM EST Friday...
04:47 <ct|kyle> 0F
05:05 <Stewah> La Jolla, CA / Clear / 60°F 16°C / Humidity: 17% / Wind: S at 2 mph
05:05 <Stewah> :D
05:06 * BabyBug tickles Stewah
05:06 <Stewah> D:
05:06 * Stewah giggles
05:07 <BabyBug> giggler!
05:07 <Stewah> sorry! D:
05:07 <Stewah> it's an impulse >.>
05:07 <BabyBug> Noooooo don't be sorry!
05:07 <BabyBug> Gigglers are funny!
05:07 * BabyBug is a giggler
05:07 <Stewah> oh phew D:
05:07 <Stewah> I thought I was a rare one
05:08 <BabyBug> no no, you're perfectly common xD
05:09 <BabyBug> (you walked into that one)
05:09 <Stewah> I totally did
05:09 <Stewah> and didn't expect to get out of it
05:09 <BabyBug> =P
05:09 <Stewah> it happens to often honestly >.>
05:10 <BabyBug> lol awww bless...i would give you a cuddle but i'm not allowed =x
05:10 <Stewah> why not?
05:10 <BabyBug> Lizmatic would shout at me
05:10 <Stewah> lol
05:11 <Stewah> Lizmatic: stop holding back her style
05:11 <BabyBug> lol she's sleeping shhhh!! don't wake her up :@
05:11 <Stewah> lol
05:11 <Stewah> sorry D:
05:12 <BabyBug> =D
05:12 * BabyBug must seem like a 12 year old...
05:12 <Stewah> You totally do >.>
05:12 <BabyBug> lmao
05:12 <Stewah> but then again, my fiance is acting younger and younger each day also...
05:13 <BabyBug> the internet is the one place i can be left alone to be immature =D
05:13 <Stewah> lol
05:13 <Stewah> That's how normal people cope with it :P
05:13 <Stewah> if we can call anyone on the internet normal >.>
05:13 <BabyBug> Oh she's probably thinking that she'll be getting married soon, that makes her instantly old, so she's acting younger to counter act that!
05:13 <Stewah> lol
05:14 <BabyBug> as soon as ya married that's it, you're official classed as old!
05:14 <BabyBug> officially*
05:14 <Stewah> Naw, she probably does it cause I say she's cute when she does it :D
05:14 <BabyBug> lol
05:14 <Stewah> Which is true >.>
05:14 <BabyBug> how old are you/she?
05:14 <Stewah> 19 :D
05:15 <Stewah> er
05:15 <Stewah> me = 17
05:15 <BabyBug> she's 19?
05:15 <Stewah> yeah
05:15 <BabyBug> you're engaged at 17? lol
05:15 <Stewah> :D
05:15 <Stewah> she agreed to it :D
05:15 <BabyBug> O.o wow...I'm a mother and still wouldn't even think about getting engaged yet.. =x
05:16 <BabyBug> (i'm 18)
05:16 <Stewah> Hrm
05:16 <Stewah> How old is the baby?
05:16 <BabyBug> 4 months today \o/
05:17 <Stewah> Awww :D
05:17 <Stewah> Happy 4 months :D
05:17 <Stewah> xD
05:17 <BabyBug> xD =D
05:17 <BabyBug> That's why i'm so immature on the internet...no spare time for it in rl anymore xD
05:18 <Stewah> Well you'll fit in in most places
05:18 <BabyBug> i still can't believe you're engaged..omg.. lol
05:18 <Stewah> lol
05:18 <Stewah> Sorry that I'm in love? :D
05:18 <BabyBug> haha
05:18 * BabyBug is in love too you know! =P
05:19 <Stewah> Awwww :D
05:19 <BabyBug> despite his constant moaning and repeated rants i still love the git =P
05:19 <Stewah> Who's the lucky guy/girl?
05:19 <Stewah> lol
05:19 <Stewah> Awww, does he atleast giggle?
05:19 <BabyBug> guy...lol, His name is Richie, he's the father aswell =)
05:20 <Stewah> Awww
05:20 <Stewah> So he's not afraid of commitments? :P
05:20 <BabyBug> he doesn't giggle no...but he's really easy to wind up which makes me giggle =D
05:20 <Stewah> xD
05:21 <Stewah> I don't really have to do anything to make my fiance giggle xD
05:21 <BabyBug> Ermm.. well...He left me as soon as he found out i was pregnant.. (even though we previously agreed we'd keep the baby if i got pregnant) and then we got back together 2 weeks before she came.. lmao
05:21 <Stewah> Oh...
05:21 <BabyBug> i can laugh about it now =P
05:21 <Stewah> lol
05:21 <BabyBug> And it's great wind up material.. =P
05:21 <Stewah> rofl
05:21 <BabyBug> he just got scared..i can understand =D
05:21 <Stewah> Awww :D
05:22 <Stewah> Another girl that can understand guy's mistakes! :D
05:22 <BabyBug> All girls do secretly..we just never tell you that xD
05:22 <Stewah> lol
05:23 <BabyBug> We have to take our anger out on someone! =P
05:23 <Stewah> Pfft, there are different ways of doing that >.>
05:23 <Stewah> She teases me a lot xD
05:23 <BabyBug> lol =D
05:24 <BabyBug> i'll tease anyone..it's funny ^^
05:24 <Stewah> rofl
05:24 <BabyBug> get the person horny and then walk away... =D
05:24 <Stewah> You sound just like her xD
05:24 <BabyBug> haha x)
05:25 <Stewah> But like when we go to the mall, she goes and teases some guy, then walks off to me :D
05:25 <Stewah> It's fun to watch their reactions :D
05:25 <BabyBug> lol yup =D
05:26 <BabyBug> It's always nice getting a free drink in a club and then walking away with it aswell xD
05:26 <Stewah> rofl
05:26 <Stewah> that's just mean xD
05:26 <BabyBug> lmao =D
05:27 <BabyBug> you'd do it if you had tits! =P
05:27 <Stewah> PFft
05:27 <Stewah> I have tits... just not boobs
05:27 <BabyBug> or would you be a typical bloke and spend the whole day in the shower playing with em? =P
05:27 <Stewah> Also: No milk comes out of mine.
05:27 <BabyBug> haha
05:28 <Stewah> Well I don't need mine anymore :P
05:29 <BabyBug> well you don't mind older women so i instantly like you! Too many men are sooooo egotistical around here and wont go with older women
05:29 <BabyBug> they're wankers
05:29 <Stewah> Well it was scary at first xD
05:29 <Stewah> well
05:30 <Stewah> not scary
05:30 <BabyBug> just different? =P
05:30 <Stewah> yeah lol
05:30 <Stewah> But I'm glad I stuck with her :D
05:30 <BabyBug> awwww ^^ =)
05:31 <BabyBug> So when are you two having kids? xD (not to scare you or anything)
05:31 <Stewah> xD
05:31 <Stewah> Uhm....
05:31 <Stewah> We haven't thought about it at all >.>
05:31 <Stewah> Or atleast I haven't xD
05:31 <BabyBug> lol aye...she has...she defiantly has xD
05:31 <Stewah> xD
05:32 <Stewah> She might think I little me running around would be scary xD
05:32 <BabyBug> hahah
05:32 <Stewah> a*
05:32 <BabyBug> how long have you been with her?
05:33 <Stewah> 2 and a half years...
05:33 <Stewah> er
05:33 <BabyBug> Wow..
05:33 <Stewah> 1 and a half*
05:33 <Stewah> finger slip xD
05:33 <BabyBug> Oh
05:33 <BabyBug> LOL
05:33 <BabyBug> how long engaged?
05:33 <Stewah> actually 1 year 6 months 1 week :P
05:34 <BabyBug> haha awwww bless...i wont how long it'll be until you stop remembering that =P
05:34 <Stewah> for the 6 months 1 week
05:34 <BabyBug> who proposed to who? =P
05:34 <Stewah> Me to her xD
05:34 <Stewah> but it was planned >.>
05:34 <Stewah> lol
05:34 <BabyBug> ... planned as in she knew about it? O.o
05:34 <Stewah> yeah
05:34 <BabyBug> >.<
05:35 <BabyBug> lol
05:35 <BabyBug> if Richie tells me he's going to propose before he does i'm soooo gonna castrate him :@
05:35 <Stewah> rofl
05:36 <Stewah> Well... she was sort of hinting at it as I was thinking about it
05:37 <Stewah> So I asked her if she wanted me to and it got planned from there xD
05:37 <BabyBug> lol
05:38 <BabyBug> Richie's give hints to me...trying to see if i'd respond...but i don't...If he wants to propose he needs to get the balls to do it without hints xD
05:38 <Stewah> lol
05:38 <Stewah> I was trying not to give hints xD
05:38 <BabyBug> lol nah, you were just upfront and said "hey, wanna plan the proposal?" xD
05:39 <Stewah> xD
05:39 <Stewah> So if she were you, I would be castrated now? xD
05:39 <BabyBug> oh yesh
05:39 <BabyBug> lol
05:39 <BabyBug> I want the surprise!
05:39 <Stewah> lol
05:41 <BabyBug> Hey wait...i thought the legal age limit is 18 where you are? lol
05:41 <Stewah> They can't put an age limit on marraige! D:
05:41 <BabyBug> wait you haven't slept with her yet? O.o
05:42 <Stewah> Oh that >.>
05:42 <Stewah> Uhm... "legal" >.>
05:42 <BabyBug> ? lol..i hate cryptic people =P
05:43 <Stewah> lol
05:43 <Stewah> means it isn't legal xD
05:43 <BabyBug> but you have slept with her? =P
05:43 <BabyBug> actually no don't answer that
05:43 <Stewah> xD
05:43 <BabyBug> i'm asking far too personal of question =P
05:43 * BabyBug slaps herself
05:44 <Stewah> Thanks xD
05:44 <BabyBug> Lucifer's old so i can ask him stuff all i like xD
05:44 <Lucifer> you shouldn't do it when I'm horny
05:44 <Stewah> I'm sure when I turn 18 I'll answer that question :P
05:44 <BabyBug> lol Stewah
05:45 <BabyBug> Lucifer, why not? =(
05:45 <BabyBug> That's the funniest time to do it!
05:45 <Stewah> Lucifer: are you horny now?
05:46 <Lucifer> am I ever not horny these days?
05:46 <Stewah> I wouldn't know
05:46 <Stewah> BabyBug: get to asking him personal questions
05:46 <BabyBug> Stewah, question, Feel free to completely ignore this question aswell though. Would you mind if she slept with another girl while with you?
05:46 * Lucifer points at the other tab
05:47 <Stewah> BabyBug: not at all
05:47 <ct|kyle> lol
05:47 <BabyBug> we'll continue this in the other channel...
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05:53 <p0l0na1sE> Hello, what is the F2 clan website?
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09:28 <PinkTomato> guru3: spam: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202289#202289
09:29 <Lizmatic> I see BabyBug has been misbehaving again, geez that girl her questions.. xD
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10:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8823 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp):
10:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
10:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: Sending /team chat to sender via server controlled chat message, not
10:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: as a console message. This fixes any clientside decorations.
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8824 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. build/WorkMakefile build/configure): (log message trimmed)
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8798 to 8822:
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8822 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-15 02:37:25 +0100 (Thu, 15 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Daniel Lee Harple: Enabled sound again. Be sure to update to latest osxlibs package from https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110997&package_id=266788
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: (not merged, diverged)
10:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8825 /armagetronad/trunk/ (. armagetronad/src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): (log message trimmed)
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8822 to 8824:
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8823 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-15 10:53:35 +0100 (Thu, 15 Jan 2009) | 4 lines
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: Sending /team chat to sender via server controlled chat message, not
11:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: as a console message. This fixes any clientside decorations.
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11:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r786 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8822 to 8824:... || [trunk-build-work] r157 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8798 to 8822:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r982 Sending /team chat to sender via server controlled chat mess...
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12:08 <glandon> ok so i have the game installed but for some reason the resolution is outside of the 1440x900 that my 19 inch high def monitor will handle can anyone tell me how i can fix this
12:10 <glandon> anyone?
12:10 <glandon> ok is anyone out there period
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12:39 <guru3> try deleting your user.cfg
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13:44 <glandon> where do i find that? still not all that familiar with the file layout of ubuntu
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14:57 <Lizmatic> o/
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15:57 <Lizmatic> \o/
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17:59 <BabyBug> BOOoooOOOOOOOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOOoooooOOOOoo
18:02 <K-Yo> ^o)p
18:02 * BabyBug slaps K-Ho
18:04 <PinkTomato> AAAAhhhh!
18:08 * K-Yo slaps BabyBug back
18:08 <K-Yo> .ping
18:08 <BabyBug> missed!
18:08 <PinkTomato> #ping
18:08 <@armabot> pong
18:08 * K-Yo re-slap BabyBug back again
18:08 <K-Yo> #slap BabyBug
18:08 <BabyBug> missed again!
18:09 <@armabot> K-Yo slaps BabyBug for being a raving moron.
18:09 <K-Yo> arf
18:09 <K-Yo> bim
18:09 <K-Yo> gotcha!
18:10 * BabyBug resists the urge to #kick :@
18:13 <Lizmatic> K-Yo: de puta madre
18:14 <PinkTomato> That didn't sound nice.
18:15 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 CONSOLE_MESSAGE
18:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. || ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Message sent to clients after every round
18:15 <PinkTomato> #cfg MSG
18:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
18:15 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 MESSAGE
18:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: ADMIN_KILL_MESSAGE: admin_kill_message_help || CENTER_MESSAGE: Prints a big message on the screen of all connected clients. || CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. || FULLSCREEN_MESSAGE: Prints a big message all over the screen, interrupting gameplay for a configurable timeout. Use with care. || MESSAGE_OF_DAY: Message sent to clients on (1 more message)
18:18 <PinkTomato> FULLSCREEN_MESSAGE...
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18:56 <BabyBug> epsy!
18:56 <epsy> BabyBug?
18:56 <BabyBug> Hiya =)
18:57 <epsy> hi
18:57 <epsy> ah, they gave me invites again Oo
18:57 <epsy> 5*
18:57 <BabyBug> to where?
18:57 <BabyBug> and who? :P
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19:00 <epsy> who - Id software
19:00 <epsy> where to - quakelive :)
19:00 * epsy is looking forward to waste them
19:00 <BabyBug> ohs
19:00 <BabyBug> #google id software
19:01 <BabyBug> #google quakelive
19:01 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.30 seconds: id Software: <http://www.idsoftware.com/>; id Software : Quake II: <http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/quake2/>; id Software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Software>; Doom 3: <http://www.doom3.com/>; Intrinsic Development : Services: <http://www.id.com/>; QUAKE 4: <http://www.quake4game.com/>; Doom3FrontPage - (1 more message)
19:01 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.20 seconds: Welcome to QUAKELIVE: <http://www.quakelive.com/>; id Beta Center: <http://quakelive.idsoftware.com/>; Quake Live - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quake_Zero>; Gametrailers.com - Quake Live - E3 2008: Exclusive Debut Trailer HD: <http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37086.html>; Quake Live Screenshots - Voodoo Extreme: (2 more messages)
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19:03 <BabyBug> well Flex, you lasted long with your "won't come on IRC anymore"
19:04 <Flex> i'll come on irc if i please.. what's it to you?
19:04 <Flex> seriously.. where the fuck did you come from?
19:05 <BabyBug> Just pointing out yet another example of how you never do anything you say you will...you really are pathetic
19:06 <Flex> lol.. jeez
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19:10 <Flex> me coming on irc has nothing to do with you or whatever i say to anyone else.. you little nosey child
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19:13 <Flex> you have a kid right? i bet its as fucked up as you are..
19:13 <BabyBug> Flex, Why moan at me for being nosey? You say you're the one who got Lisa to talk to me, so you only have yourself to blame for me having an opinion =)
19:14 <BabyBug> you're calling me fucked up? You're a shitty little cry baby attention seeker. With your "blocked and deleted you" statements..what a load of crap..
19:16 <BabyBug> You've come back on IRC far too early though. You've held out for a week before on previous statements
19:17 <Flex> yeah, i also introduced her to the game, and told her to install irc and even chose her funny name.. i've got a lot of things to blame myself for. yup...
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19:18 <Flex> i've been on this channel far longer than you have.. so coming on here or not is NOTHING to do with you.. because 1.. you don't own this channel or have any authority and #2 it's none of your concern.. again with your big fucking nose
19:19 <epsy> she has
19:19 <Flex> she has what?
19:19 <BabyBug> lmao
19:19 <ct|kyle> http://xkcd.com/323/
19:20 <epsy> haha yeah I loved that one
19:21 <PinkTomato> hehe
19:29 <Flex> BabyBug, if you had any sort of idea, you would know not to even get involved in matters that do not concern you. Do you assume you're some sort of role model that you can tell her what decisions to make? You're what 18? with a child.. do you even work? how the fuck do you pay rent or take care of your child?
19:29 <epsy> please, don't restart trolling
19:30 <luke-jr> epsy: #armaTWGetron !
19:30 <Flex> seeing as how you make yourself concerned in matters that don't concern you, does JSA make life easier so you can join chat channels and act like you're some mature person? lol
19:30 <epsy> or talk in /msg
19:30 <luke-jr> flex too
19:30 <Flex> stfu, i'll respond to what someone started
19:30 <epsy> respond to her in PM
19:30 <epsy> we don't care about this
19:30 <BabyBug> xD
19:31 <PinkTomato> And it was a small statement that has esculatted
19:32 <luke-jr> epsy: Flex
19:32 <epsy> luke-jr: I don't want to play IRC games
19:32 <BabyBug> epsy, sure you do!
19:32 <Flex> so.. JSA make your life good BabyBug?
19:33 <epsy> Flex, PM
19:33 <Flex> epsy stfu
19:33 <epsy> armabot, op
19:33 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o epsy] by armabot
19:33 <luke-jr> Flex: #ArmaTWGeTRON
19:33 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o BabyBug] by epsy
19:33 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o epsy] by epsy
19:34 <Flex> oh look.. epsy with admins
19:34 <Flex> that's a surprise
19:34 <epsy> I knew you would love
19:34 <@BabyBug> epsy, >< lol
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19:34 <luke-jr> #kick epsy
19:35 <epsy> BabyBug, feel free to do whatever you like with him
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19:35 <madmax> this is a whole new level of awesomeness
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19:35 <luke-jr> wasn't me! <.<
19:35 <epsy> :D
19:37 <@BabyBug> madmax, indeed it is! :D
19:37 <Flex> so.. JSA right?
19:37 <@BabyBug> arf...
19:37 <Flex> do i pay your bills?
19:37 <luke-jr> FLEX
19:38 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*i=Flex@*.bmly.cable.ntl.com] by BabyBug
19:38 -!- Flex was kicked from #armagetron by BabyBug [Wooooo Authority rocks doesn't it? FYI, i'm not on JSA, i have a bf and you completely missed the point of what i was trying to say AS USUAL!]
19:38 <@BabyBug> I'll remove that in 2...
19:38 <epsy> no need to hurry, none really cares
19:39 -!- Flex [i=Flex@unaffiliated/flex] has joined #armagetron
19:39 <Flex> lol, thanks. i'm done ;)
19:40 <madmax> this looks like a dick size contest
19:42 <luke-jr> BabyBug: Flex wants kick again :D
19:42 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!*@unaffiliated/flex] by BabyBug
19:42 <luke-jr> he won't play
19:42 -!- Flex was kicked from #armagetron by BabyBug [better give him what he wants!]
19:42 <epsy> lol :)
19:42 <luke-jr> XD
19:43 <luke-jr> u should come play too
19:43 <luke-jr> madmax: too
19:43 <@BabyBug> We'll never see eye to eye...Sorry for bringing that into this channel though, that was my fault really.
19:49 <epsy> @as
19:49 <teabot> epsy: This data is 7 seconds old; Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (12/12), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (12/16), The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (12/14), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), WILDCAT (7/8), Norm's Home - Open Gameplay (5/16), SPACEZONE III (4/15), |FA| Black Ice! (3/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (3/16), -=PruTurboCTF=- (3/10), (1 more message)
19:49 <epsy> zomg moar
19:49 <teabot> epsy: {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (3/10), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (3/14), - [ Nano's Playground | Nano Standard ] - . (2/8), Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<< (1/10), Wild West =CTF Shooting= (1/10), Crazy Tronners Wild FlagFortress! (1/8)
19:50 <epsy> boo
19:50 <epsy> uhm, café anyone?
19:52 <luke-jr> no wai
19:52 <luke-jr> TWG!
19:53 <sinewav> how about flag fort?
19:53 <epsy> what's that?
19:53 <luke-jr> sinewav: #armatwgetron
19:53 <sinewav> really?
19:53 <sinewav> it's a fort ctf hybrind
19:53 <sinewav> `hybrid*
19:54 <luke-jr> epsy: CTF with conquerable home zones
19:54 <epsy> so bases can be conquered? or flags needs to be earned, like in warsow?
19:54 <sinewav> both
19:54 <luke-jr> sinewav: need 1 more player for TWG
19:54 <sinewav> you can capture a flag or a base
19:54 <sinewav> respawning...
19:54 <sinewav> fort physics
19:55 <sinewav> luke-jr: I'm terrible at TWG
19:55 <luke-jr> so?
19:55 <sinewav> I'm not fast enough, mentally
19:55 <luke-jr> practice
19:55 <epsy> sinewav, I'm in
19:55 <sinewav> epsy: I'm actually there now
19:56 <epsy> @ls sinewav
19:56 <epsy> @ls epsy
19:56 <luke-jr> #ls sine
19:56 <@armabot> luke-jr: ctt_sine.wav seems to be on Adventures of TRON >>> Flag Fortress <<< right now.
19:57 <epsy> @ping
19:57 <teabot> pong
19:57 <epsy> dead already
19:57 <epsy> or not
19:57 <teabot> epsy: sinewav has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 4 days 19 hours 51 minutes ago.
19:57 <teabot> epsy: epsy¦×¦ seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild FlagFortress! right now.
20:06 -!- sinewav is now known as sinewav_away
20:10 <madmax> #fetch http://forums.armagetronad.net/
20:10 <@armabot> madmax: timed out
20:12 * PinkTomato has trouble also
20:13 <@BabyBug> #fetch http://forums.armagetronad.net/
20:13 <@armabot> BabyBug: timed out
20:13 <@BabyBug> armabot usually loves me ='(
20:13 <epsy> is this usual?
20:13 <PinkTomato> It does love you!
20:13 <PinkTomato> For me it never replies
20:14 <@BabyBug> lol ^^
20:14 <PinkTomato> at least you can get a grunt :D
20:14 <PinkTomato> epsy: not usual :), it is site down
20:17 <madmax> guru3: forums down?
20:17 <epsy> obviousely
20:19 <luke-jr> need bug testers in TWG
20:19 <luke-jr> plz
20:21 -!- z-man [n=manuel@p50872B98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
20:22 -!- sinewav_away [n=sinewav@209-252-82-123.ip.mcleodusa.net] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
20:22 <PinkTomato> #fetch youtube.com
20:22 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Error: 'youtube.com' is not a valid url.
20:23 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@209-252-82-123.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #armagetron
20:23 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@209-252-82-123.ip.mcleodusa.net] has quit [Client Quit]
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20:23 <epsy> http://
20:24 <PinkTomato> ah, well It's working now, my sanity is saved :).
20:27 <epsy> won't work here
20:27 -!- UGPSouthU3 [n=chatzill@plmomi-l10-104.dsl.tds.net] has joined #armagetron
20:28 -!- UGPSouthU3 is now known as apparition
20:28 <apparition> yo dudes
20:28 <epsy> hello apparition
20:28 <sinewav> yo
20:28 <apparition> how's the day going?
20:28 <sinewav> #weather 60130
20:29 <@armabot> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is -1.5°F (1:28 PM CST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -16.6°F. Windchill: -14.8°F. Pressure: 30.59 in 1035.8 hPa (Falling). Wind chill warning in effect until 12 PM CST Friday...
20:29 <sinewav> that's how
20:29 <apparition> #weather 48104
20:29 <@armabot> apparition: The current temperature in Greenhills School, Ann Arbor, Michigan is 7.9°F (2:29 PM EST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: -7.6°F. Pressure: 24.98 in 845.8 hPa (Falling). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until noon Friday...
20:29 <apparition> dang, little nicer here
20:29 <sinewav> ah. you can relate
20:29 <apparition> i want to talk about t-shirts
20:30 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
20:30 <sinewav> arma t's?
20:30 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 0.7°F (2:30 PM EST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -5.8°F. Windchill: -13.0°F. Pressure: 30.56 in 1034.8 hPa (Steady). Wind chill warning in effect until 12 PM EST Friday...
20:30 <apparition> yep
20:30 <sinewav> what about appa?
20:30 <apparition> have t's been done for arma before?
20:30 <sinewav> dunno
20:31 <apparition> i don't know either and i can't get on armagetron forums to search around/post
20:31 <apparition> won't load
20:31 <sinewav> can't armabot do it?
20:32 * apparition shrugs
20:32 <apparition> i don't know the ways of armabot
20:32 <epsy> do what?
20:32 <sinewav> I see it's not loading for me either
20:32 <sinewav> search forums
20:32 <madmax> #google site:forums.armagetronad.net t-shirts
20:32 <madmax> \o/
20:32 <sinewav> \o/
20:32 <@armabot> madmax: Search took 1.56 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: Search: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/search.php?search_author=Sticky&sid=38561a53d17011a7e6a1f3638d25ac22>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Plan for upgrading: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=37952>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Survey to see how much money we ...: (3 more messages)
20:32 <@BabyBug> lol
20:32 <@BabyBug> fail
20:33 <madmax> #more
20:33 <@armabot> madmax: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=1279>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - New clan!: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=13661&highlight=&sid=e63b51b90665d0831dd22950939fed0c>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Developer services thread: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=173981>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Breakfast artwork request: (2 more messages)
20:33 <epsy> #alias add forums google site:forums.armagetronad.net $*
20:33 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:33 <epsy> @alias add forums google site:forums.armagetronad.net $*
20:33 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
20:34 <apparition> can anyone else get on the forums?
20:34 <PinkTomato> nope
20:34 <apparition> well, let's talk about this a little then
20:35 <apparition> who thinks arma shirts would be cool?
20:35 * BabyBug doesn't!
20:35 <sinewav> sh
20:35 * apparition thinks babybug is lame
20:35 <PinkTomato> what the frick is with t-shirts?
20:35 <epsy> if the t-shirt looks cool
20:35 <sinewav> yeah design is key, content is secondary
20:36 <PinkTomato> hmm.. no cafepress,
20:36 <apparition> i'm not thinking about designing it. i could have one of my graphic designers do it, but i think it'd be cool if we had a tronner design it
20:36 <@BabyBug> who's gonna model them?
20:36 <PinkTomato> if it was done properly
20:36 <sinewav> It couls be a shirt about cancer and I'd still wear it if the design kicked.
20:37 <apparition> you're going to babybug
20:37 <@BabyBug> no.... ><
20:37 <sinewav> then find us a girl with nice boobs then
20:37 <@BabyBug> lizmatic!
20:38 <apparition> lolz
20:38 <sinewav> ain't seen em
20:38 <sinewav> I'll take your word
20:38 <@BabyBug> ^^
20:38 <PinkTomato> oh model them!
20:38 <PinkTomato> I thought you meant model them.
20:39 <sinewav> as in a 3D model?
20:39 <@BabyBug> my boobs are too small to model =x
20:39 <sinewav> but you just had a baby?
20:39 <PinkTomato> yeah 3D model :)
20:39 <@BabyBug> sinewav, yes
20:39 <PinkTomato> breast size != modelling interest
20:41 <@BabyBug> pssht
20:41 -!- pikey [n=pikey@ce21.osiedle.net.pl] has joined #armagetron
20:41 <@BabyBug> pikey == pike?
20:43 <pikey> yup
20:46 <luke-jr> apparition: #armatwgetron ☺
20:47 <luke-jr> pikey #armatwgetron too
20:47 <apparition> :) i'm at work and couldn't really get in the game
20:48 <luke-jr> we're just testing bugs now
20:48 <madmax> wiki down too, we're doomed
20:49 <@BabyBug> wiki isn't down
20:49 <@BabyBug> im on the wiki
20:49 <@BabyBug> lol
20:50 <@BabyBug> #fetch http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board
20:50 <@armabot> BabyBug: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error
20:50 <@BabyBug> oh
20:50 <apparition> lolz
20:50 <madmax> win
20:50 <@BabyBug> Ok well i WAS on the wiki...
20:50 <pikey> :)
20:50 <madmax> yeah, here I browsed for a bit then that
20:51 <Lucifer> #ping
20:51 <@armabot> pong
20:51 * BabyBug tickles Lucifer
20:52 <sinewav> apparition: so, do you have any designs yet?
20:52 * Lucifer pins BabyBug and says "I have to go to work"
20:52 <@BabyBug> Eh?
20:52 <@BabyBug> i thought you dont have a job
20:52 <@BabyBug> lol
20:52 <Lucifer> I still work at the school, it's just not anywhere close to a living wage
20:52 <@BabyBug> oh
20:52 <@BabyBug> i see
20:53 <Lucifer> 7 hours a week at $10.75/hour
20:53 <apparition> i don't design much anymore. we have graphic designers working for us now \m/
20:53 <@BabyBug> oh ouch =x
20:53 <Lucifer> I could probably blow it off today and do the job next week, I'm sure my geology boss wouldn't mind
20:53 <Lucifer> classes actually start next week, so I'd rather not drive just yet
20:54 <Lucifer> and who knows? maybe the weather next week will be better for bike riding
20:54 * Lucifer needs to check his schedule again and see where the breaks are
20:54 <@BabyBug> O.o
20:55 <sinewav> Lucifer: Hey, I'm dedicating the next month of free time to designing sounds for Arma. I'll be in touch.
20:55 <@BabyBug> sinewav, do i get sound previews? =D
20:55 <Lucifer> ok. Try to get a sexy woman's voice with a european accent to do voice sounds ;)
20:55 <sinewav> Actually, I can get that.
20:55 <e_n_d_e_r> shweet
20:56 <apparition> so, i honestly think tron needs some shirts floating around. exposure, you know, plus who doesn't love shirst?
20:56 <apparition> shirts*
20:56 <e_n_d_e_r> id wear one hah
20:57 <e_n_d_e_r> everyone already knows how much of a loser im am about this game :O
20:57 <sinewav> I'd buy one. Gotta have a sweet design though. I'll put that on the list of things to do for March.
20:57 <e_n_d_e_r> !
20:57 <Lucifer> we just need designs
20:57 <sinewav> a contest?
20:57 <Lucifer> I'd be happy to set something up on cafepress if people want to give us designs for it
20:57 <e_n_d_e_r> nice
20:57 <sinewav> :D
20:57 <Lucifer> then we can have a lot more than just shirts ;)
20:58 <e_n_d_e_r> hats, buttons, underwear?
20:58 <e_n_d_e_r> lol
20:58 <Lucifer> also, soon as there's money, we have to make extra special certain we don't infringe on Disney's copyright in any way
20:58 * sinewav could go for a new coffe mug...
20:58 <@BabyBug> underwear you be a turn off
20:58 <@BabyBug> s/you/would/
20:58 <apparition> dude we do everything
20:58 <Lucifer> underwear should have lots of rubber
20:58 <sinewav> lol!
20:58 <@BabyBug> noooooooooooo lol
20:58 <e_n_d_e_r> haha
20:58 <apparition> dude, we print anything
20:58 <apparition> it doesn't even matter lolol
20:59 <e_n_d_e_r> i want some arma vans!
20:59 <Lucifer> apparition: do you provide an online storefront for it all?
20:59 <apparition> we print awesome promotional merch, too.
20:59 <apparition> yeah, check it out
20:59 <apparition> www.undergroundshirts.com
20:59 <@BabyBug> flash =x
20:59 <Lucifer> er, no, I mean an online storefront for us :)
21:00 <Lucifer> check out cafepress (I'm sure you know who they are, though)
21:00 <@BabyBug> #google cafepress
21:00 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.21 seconds: CafePress : Funny t-shirts, unique gifts, and custom t-shirts: <http://www.cafepress.com/>; CafePress .com : Sell Your Designs, Photos and Images on CafePress ...: <http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/>; T-Shirts & Clothing from CafePress: <http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/>; CafePress .com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (2 more messages)
21:00 <e_n_d_e_r> cool
21:01 <apparition> no cafepress
21:01 <apparition> awful
21:02 <Lucifer> I've liked the stuff I've gotten from them
21:03 <Lucifer> the only real problem I have is that to preview something before someone buys it, I have to buy it myself
21:03 <Lucifer> not a big deal if it looks good, but if it sucks, I don't want to buy it ;)
21:04 <apparition> i guarantee their stuff couldn't compare to what we do
21:04 <Lucifer> I'm sure it doesn't, but they provide a self-service storefront that we can use
21:04 <Lucifer> regular print shops are almost always much better than cafepress, but we'd have to order the shirts and handle the store/selling ourselves
21:05 <Lucifer> and let's face it, that means someone has to put time into it, and most of us need to get paid for the time, and our community isn't big enough to support that kind of effort
21:05 <Lucifer> but if you guys want to do it on your own, I certainly can't stop you :)
21:06 <apparition> if someone would be willing to do it, they could get paid easily
21:06 <apparition> would you pay 10 bux for a shirt?
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21:06 <Lucifer> if the shirts sell, certainly. I'm telling you they won't sell quickly enough to be worth the effort. If someone's willing to volunteer their time to do it, then it's feasible
21:07 <Lucifer> and yes, I'd pay 10 bucks for a shirt
21:07 <Lucifer> if I had it, of course
21:07 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc238035.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
21:07 <Lucifer> Hell, I'd pay 20 if I knew the project was going to use the money
21:07 <apparition> we do any size order though, that's the thing. we wouldn't have to buy a shit load to make it worth it
21:07 <PinkTomato> how can you break even for with $10 Oo
21:07 <apparition> we would make money off of selling them for ten bones
21:07 <Lucifer> heh, most of the time shirts that sell for less than $15 are being subsidized somehow
21:07 <apparition> i'm telling you, my company is gooooood
21:08 <@BabyBug> pikey, buy the shirts for $5, print for $3, sell for $10
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21:08 <@BabyBug> PinkTomato**
21:08 <Lucifer> we're not questioning that your company is good :)
21:08 <Lucifer> that's only $2 profit per shirt
21:08 <@BabyBug> and/
21:08 <Lucifer> now, say it takes 5 minutes of time to pack and ship an order and process the payment
21:08 <Lucifer> pay that guy $8/hour for it
21:09 <Lucifer> *IF* we get 12 orders per hour, we make...
21:09 <Lucifer> #math calc 2*12
21:09 <@armabot> Lucifer: 24
21:09 <Lucifer> duh
21:09 <@BabyBug> lol
21:09 <apparition> lol
21:09 <Lucifer> we pay him 8 and keep 16
21:10 * Lucifer thinks it'll take more than 5 minutes per shirt, however
21:10 <Lucifer> although, you do just print the address and stuff it in an envelope
21:10 <luke-jr> Lucifer: TWG?
21:11 <apparition> 50 one color ink shirts would be $5 a shirt printed.
21:11 <Lucifer> oh right, commissions
21:12 <apparition> plus i could get way more off because it'd be through me
21:12 <Lucifer> paypal takes what, 8%?
21:12 <Lucifer> and shipping overseas, eek
21:12 <PinkTomato> selling it in dollars would be bad in current exchange rates.
21:12 <PinkTomato> abuse your spending power
21:12 <apparition> we could some american shirts and euro shirts, it'd be sweet
21:13 <Lucifer> indeed, we'd have to be willing to sell in EUD and lbs as well
21:13 <Lucifer> paypal takes it, so we can let them handle it, but they charge for the conversion
21:13 <Lucifer> and ultimately, I believe the arma paypal account is in USD, but could be wrong (have to ask guru3)
21:13 <PinkTomato> I think the rate is pretty good though
21:13 <PinkTomato> you can add currencies to paypal
21:13 <PinkTomato> I think
21:14 <Lucifer> well, we could sit on it until we think the exchange rate is the best it'll get and then do the deed, but that's speculating
21:14 <PinkTomato> apparition: 50 t-shirts assorted size?
21:14 <Lucifer> happy to do it, but not happy to depend on it
21:14 <Lucifer> sizing would also be something of an issue, we'd need to provide enough sizes for the people who will order
21:14 <apparition> 50 shirts any size
21:14 <Lucifer> there will be leftovers in particular sizes
21:15 <apparition> we could get a sign ups for shirts going
21:15 <apparition> order the exact number of sized shirts, plus normal excess for future
21:15 <Lucifer> why not just get a sign up going for one print run, split the cost, and maybe a little extra to paypal over to guru3?
21:16 <Lucifer> then you can just order exactly what people want
21:16 <Lucifer> instead of running it as a money-making venture, run it as a group of friends going in together on it
21:18 <apparition> then it'd be $5 per shirt per person
21:18 <apparition> or whatevs
21:18 <Lucifer> you'll have to consider shipping to individuals, of course
21:19 <Lucifer> and $5 is dirt cheap for a t-shirt
21:19 <apparition> totally
21:19 <Lucifer> but see, let's say you managed to get like 50 people to do it
21:20 <Lucifer> that would tell us there's something resembling a market, and maybe we should consider a more permanent arrangement of some kind :)
21:20 <Lucifer> I would want a white shirt that I could tie-dye
21:20 <Lucifer> and if you wait until I have a job, I'd be willing to pitch in for a shirt ;)
21:20 <apparition> perfect, we sell tie dye shirts hah
21:21 -!- pikey [n=pikey@ce21.osiedle.net.pl] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
21:21 <Lucifer> but a cool design is a cool design, heh ;)
21:22 <Lucifer> are the forums down?
21:22 <@BabyBug> yes
21:22 <sinewav> looks like it
21:22 <Lucifer> guru3: ping
21:30 <apparition> give me a non-USA postcode, someone
21:31 <Lucifer> 78729
21:31 <Lucifer> B)
21:31 <PinkTomato> BN23 7QR
21:31 <PinkTomato> Wait
21:32 <PinkTomato> That was stupid
21:32 <PinkTomato> ^^
21:33 <apparition> luci, what country
21:33 <Lucifer> Republic of Texas :)
21:33 <sinewav> cafe
21:33 <@BabyBug> lol PinkTomato you twit
21:34 * Lucifer doesn't understand PinkTomato's joke
21:34 <PinkTomato> I know! *grumbles*
21:34 <@BabyBug> Lucifer, That's his postcode, i.e he just told everyone where he lives
21:34 <PinkTomato> That's a postcode, which I should have thought about before I pressed enter
21:34 <Lucifer> does it tell even which specific house he lives in?
21:34 <Lucifer> postcodes in the US only give an area
21:34 <@BabyBug> ~15 houses per postcode usually
21:35 <PinkTomato> It gives a close idea
21:35 <Lucifer> ah, zip codes in the US are for a much larger area than that ;)
21:35 <@BabyBug> lol
21:39 <PinkTomato> Zip codes seem illogical
21:39 <Lucifer> how's that?
21:39 <@BabyBug> They're american
21:39 <@BabyBug> Need there be any other explanation? =)
21:40 <Lucifer> maybe on your little island it doesn't make sense, but we have a very large area to cover
21:40 <Lucifer> hell, Texas by itself is bigger than your "Kingdom" ;)
21:40 <apparition> to ship one shirt over to the UK it would cost like $4-6 USD
21:40 <PinkTomato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ZIP_Code_zones.svg
21:40 <PinkTomato> That's confusing :)
21:41 <Lucifer> that file only shows the first few digits
21:41 <Lucifer> see, my zip code is 78729
21:41 <PinkTomato> that's because it gets worse as you go down
21:41 <Lucifer> that svg file says 75-79 are in texas
21:42 <Lucifer> then, on top of that, there is an optional 4-digit code you can add to the zip code that zeroes in on a much smaller area, probably like your 15 house postcode
21:42 <apparition> now the arma site isn't loadin
21:42 <@BabyBug> guru3, Epic Pings!
21:42 <Lucifer> guru3: if you don't get the forums answering soon, BabyBug may never speak to you again
21:42 <Lucifer> guru3: so I recommend waiting
21:42 <@BabyBug> oh you bitch
21:42 <@BabyBug> lmao
21:43 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I suppose it doesn't need to make sense to me, only to the postal company
21:43 <Lucifer> company? It's a federal service :)
21:43 <@BabyBug> not here it's not!
21:43 <Lucifer> there are private shipping companies too, but the baseline federal service is quite good on its own
21:44 <@BabyBug> here it's a private company which has a license
21:44 <@BabyBug> i think..
21:44 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I think too
21:44 -!- G5_ [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit ["Over and out."]
21:45 <PinkTomato> Public Limited Company
21:45 <@BabyBug> what do we do when the Royal Mail goes bust =(
21:45 <PinkTomato> At £13 to send a 1KG abroad I doubt they will
21:45 <@BabyBug> lol
21:46 <Lucifer> for some reason it makes sense to use a unit of force to measure how much it costs to send a unit of mass somewhere
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21:48 <@BabyBug> PinkTomato, how's your php thingy doing? =D
21:50 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: I wrote a few bits :)
21:51 <PinkTomato> You can create teams now :)
21:51 <@BabyBug> You haven't pushed!
21:51 <@BabyBug> :P
21:51 <PinkTomato> well you can't join teams yet..
21:51 <@BabyBug> bzr commit;bzr push! *growls* xD
21:53 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: you better push BabyBug
21:53 * PinkTomato push!
21:53 <PinkTomato> and pushed :)
21:53 * BabyBug pushes Lucifer off a cliff
21:53 <Lucifer> heh
21:53 * Lucifer is hungry
21:54 * Lucifer is out of rolled cigarettes
21:54 <@BabyBug> ..
21:54 <@BabyBug> You said you were gonna quit!
21:55 <Lucifer> I am gonna quit
21:55 <@BabyBug> no more cigarettes starting from now!
21:55 <Lucifer> but then I have no excuse for taking a long walk
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21:55 <Lucifer> listening to music on the walk, etc
21:55 * Lizmatic offers Lucifer a cigarette
21:56 <@BabyBug> Lizmatic! ffs!
21:56 <Lucifer> maybe grabbing a bite to eat, because I'm fucking hungry
21:56 <Lucifer> of course, then I'd just eat junk food, and I don't want to do that
21:56 <Lucifer> hmmmm
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22:18 <Lizmatic> appa..
22:18 <Lizmatic> what's this about nobody showing up?
22:20 <Lizmatic> apparition_, apparition_, apparition_, apparition_, apparition_, apparition_, !
22:22 <apparition_> here
22:23 <apparition_> i got emails from some people, and most people aren't sure they're coming
22:23 <apparition_> so, if we don't have enough to compete, we'll just join other teams as subs
22:23 <apparition_> whatever
22:23 <PinkTomato> Is that fort brawl?
22:23 <apparition_> yeah
22:23 <PinkTomato> Hmm, I think we lost one member for sure,
22:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o guru3] by ChanServ
22:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o BabyBug] by guru3
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22:30 <BabyBug> lol guru3 meanie =(
22:30 <PinkTomato> How do I pass an array of array's to a function in PHP, please :)?
22:30 <BabyBug> lol PinkTomato what?
22:30 <guru3> function name($argument)
22:30 <guru3> and then $argument = array(array());
22:31 <sinewav> that's so easy!
22:31 <PinkTomato> ah I Didn't have this in the function: $argument = array(array()); thanks :)
22:31 <guru3> that would be before the function
22:32 <guru3> if you do that in it you'll just reset the contents of what you passed to the function
22:32 <PinkTomato> Ah,
22:32 <guru3> there's no typecasting to functions in php
22:32 <PinkTomato> I thought it would do,
22:32 <guru3> so you have to make sure you start out with the right variable
22:32 <PinkTomato> so as it can't tell what the variable type is, it errors the function
22:32 <PinkTomato> I suppose this is why I should declare my variables before.
22:32 <guru3> no, it probably errors because you're passing it the wrong variable accidentally
22:32 <PinkTomato> :)
22:33 <guru3> try print_r($argument) inside the function to make sure it's what you think it is
22:33 <guru3> and then double check your function code to make sure it's doing what you think it should be
22:33 <PinkTomato> right.
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22:35 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, Do you have this PHP code running anywhere?
22:35 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: http://armaserv.ath.cx is at revision 1
22:36 <guru3> looks exciting
22:36 <PinkTomato> guru3: It was a stupid typo
22:36 <PinkTomato> guru3: Hehe, needs a webdesigner
22:39 <guru3> that i don't do
22:40 <BabyBug> No php coders are web designers..Yet they always seem to -try- and do the design work!
22:40 <guru3> and that's how i wind up with shit like my website
22:41 <PinkTomato> I was about to say I would try to do some :D
22:41 <BabyBug> lol ^^
22:41 <guru3> the thing is, websites with javascript _always_ impress people
22:42 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, You really may want too look into a cleaner way of outputting the HTML before you develop it too far aswell
22:42 <BabyBug> Instead of doing stuff like this: echo("<form action='updatesetting.php' method='POST'>"); ><
22:42 <BabyBug> look in eval() =)
22:42 <BabyBug> into*
22:42 <PinkTomato> Yeah, that's a good idea, I'm going to figure out this templating stuff too
22:43 <guru3> i hate that stuff
22:43 <guru3> my systems always seem to be crap
22:43 <BabyBug> lol
22:43 <guru3> really, quite impressively bad
22:44 <BabyBug> All a templating system needs to do is seperate logic from display
22:44 <BabyBug> Is it possible to make that bad? :P
22:44 * Lizmatic hides from the neRd talk
22:44 <PinkTomato> So how would I do it? $pageOutputBody .=, and then include template.php?
22:44 <guru3> it's actually quite complcated when you start thinking about it
22:44 <guru3> PinkTomato: what about the page header? menu?
22:45 <BabyBug> guru3, no it's not shh =P
22:45 <guru3> how do you seperate it and keep it organized depending on what page is servered?
22:45 <PinkTomato> template.php -> include template.header.php?
22:45 <guru3> not header in that sence
22:45 <guru3> the <title> tag
22:45 <guru3> is within stuff that would generally be in a template
22:46 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, there's two ways you can do it. Either using include, or by using eval()
22:46 <PinkTomato> eval looks scary
22:46 <BabyBug> I prefer creating a wrapper for the eval() function
22:46 <guru3> eval... seems like a ginat security hole
22:47 <BabyBug> lol guru3 ><
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22:47 <guru3> z-man: tell BabyBug it's true
22:47 <BabyBug> z-man, tell guru3 it's false
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22:48 <z-man> What I say is false.
22:48 <BabyBug> smart arse
22:49 <guru3> clever
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22:54 * BabyBug kicks guru3 and z-man
22:54 <BabyBug> evil people
22:54 <PinkTomato> why so?
22:55 <BabyBug> cause i said so
23:05 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I designed my own website....
23:05 <BabyBug> Lucifer, exactly
23:06 <BabyBug> lol
23:07 <Lucifer> heh, I get people telling me it's nice most of the time
23:07 <Lucifer> er, looks nice
23:07 <Lucifer> of course, it's not written in php....
23:08 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: you did notice she called two of three Evil Triumvirii "evil", right?
23:10 <apparition_> are the forums up?
23:10 <BabyBug> yesh
23:10 <Lucifer> looks like it
23:10 <apparition_> k, i'll post about shirts
23:10 <PinkTomato> Triumvirii :)?
23:10 <apparition_> peas out
23:11 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that is the correct form of that word, right?
23:11 * Lucifer doesn't know latin
23:11 * PinkTomato does not know latin either
23:11 <Lucifer> I thought all you europeans knew latin
23:11 <Lucifer> evidently the romans need to conquer you again
23:12 <Lizmatic> do americans even know what 'latin' is?
23:12 <Lizmatic> they probably think of latin-america
23:12 <BabyBug> only one i on the end though Lucifer
23:12 <Lucifer> americans are confused, because they use 'latino' to refer to people descended from the rape of native americans by spaniards
23:13 <Lizmatic> americans are always confused!
23:13 <Lucifer> BabyBug: for the plural?
23:13 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, it means 3 men :P
23:13 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: that's because I spread confusion everywhere I go, and I'm in America :)
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23:13 <Lucifer> I try to tell people I'm 'latino' because I have Italian ancestors
23:13 <BabyBug> Lucifer, triumviri itself means 3 men, How is there a plural of that? =P
23:14 <Lucifer> BabyBug: beats me, all's I know is that it's typically only used in the context of a conspiracy or power-sharing deal (i.e. Caesar and his two friends)
23:14 <Lucifer> oh yeah
23:14 <Lucifer> z-man: the second triumvirate was successful, wasn't it? It was Augustus and his two friends (whose names I've forgotten)
23:15 <z-man> Depends on how you define successful, I guess.
23:15 <z-man> History was never one of my strong points :)
23:15 <Lucifer> well, Caesar and his friends failed, he got murdered on the senate floor instead of crowned emperor
23:15 <Lucifer> but Augustus, who was Caesar's son iirc, was successfully crowned Emperor
23:16 <Lucifer> then he managed to defeat Marc Antony and kept the empire from falling apart
23:16 <z-man> Yeah, that's what I meant. That means the triumvirate was not stable.
23:16 <z-man> It got Augustus what he wanted, though.
23:16 <Lucifer> ah, I thought the purpose of the second triumvirate was to crown Augustus, I don't recall Marc Antony being one of them
23:16 <z-man> I don't remember.
23:17 <Lucifer> maybe I should look it up, Marc Antony might have been one of the triumvirs
23:17 <Lizmatic> this discussion makes me want to see Gladiator again for some reason o_O
23:17 <Lucifer> because you like watching muscular men sweat and beat on each other?
23:18 <Lizmatic> it's like you can read my mind, man
23:20 <Lizmatic> the part where he sees his wife and kid hung is pretty funny
23:21 <Lucifer> ah, the second triumvirate lasted for 10 years at least, it looks like
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23:32 <Lucifer> z-man: well, if we're going to go the fate of the second triumvirate, then I'd like to be Marc Antony, so I can sleep with the richest woman in the world
23:33 <z-man> Rich and beatiful.
23:33 <Lizmatic> marc anthony is with j lo again?
23:33 <Lucifer> right, whatever, as long as I get to sleep with cleopatra
23:33 <Lucifer> :)
23:34 <Lucifer> it means I"ll lose the civil war, but that's fine
23:34 <z-man> That time machine project is still incomplete, unfortunately.
23:34 <Lucifer> maybe you should switch to python?
23:34 <Lucifer> wait, can't we just use bzr to roll back to a parallel universe?
23:34 <z-man> import continuummodifier
23:35 <Lucifer> but if we get there and find out that cleopatra is BabyBug, we'll have to rethink this whole thing
23:37 <BabyBug> i'm who now?
23:37 <sinewav> greek?
23:37 * z-man facepalms
23:37 * sinewav kind of has a thing for greek women
23:38 <Lizmatic> cleopatra is greek? o_O
23:38 <sinewav> duh
23:38 <Lizmatic> shut up
23:39 <sinewav> sorry
23:39 * Lizmatic goes to download Gladiator, doesn't need any of you.. has muscly pecks!..eh..yeah.
23:39 <Concord> #seen whatup
23:39 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen whatup.
23:39 <Concord> #seen TwelveHundred
23:39 <@armabot> Concord: I have not seen TwelveHundred.
23:39 <z-man> I should probably get my Wii to play video files properly.
23:40 <Concord> z-man, any chance that arma would see some new default textures to with tr2n?
23:40 <Concord> could make the game more appealing to new fans
23:41 <z-man> Sure. But don't expect them to be similar to the movie :)
23:41 <Concord> ;) hehe
23:43 <sinewav> No one has nay idea what tr2n will look like!
23:43 <sinewav> or I would do it myseslf
23:43 <Concord> there is a short sneak preview on youtube
23:43 <Concord> I made attempt when filming the tronic add
23:43 <sinewav> saw it 100 times. not actually part of the movie
23:44 <Concord> oh, anyway the ad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlD9AnCADZI
23:44 <Concord> but, maybe just a general modernization of the textures, mostly the wall texture, sky
23:47 <sinewav> your textures look pretty cool. I've been thinking a lot about textures lately.
23:47 <sinewav> I won't have time to make any for a few more weeks though
23:47 <Concord> thnx, took me like 20 min, but
23:48 <Concord> I'm going to give it another go this weekend, or maybe tonight, depending on whats going on ingame
23:48 <sinewav> ;)
23:50 <Concord> ;)
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00:38 <Lucifer> #math calc 52*36*10
00:38 <@armabot> Lucifer: 18720
00:38 <Lucifer> #math calc 52*36*20
00:38 <@armabot> Lucifer: 37440
00:39 <Lucifer> #math calc 52*36*30
00:39 <@armabot> Lucifer: 56160
00:39 * Lucifer hopes they offer him $30/hour
00:40 <BabyBug> ?!
00:40 <BabyBug> $30 an hour O.o
00:40 <PinkTomato> #g $30 in £
00:40 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
00:41 <BabyBug> #g 30 USD in GBP
00:41 <@armabot> BabyBug: 30 U.S. dollars = 20.5733096 British pounds
00:41 <PinkTomato> I still don't know if that's good or not :)
00:41 <BabyBug> >< lol
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00:42 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: I wouldn't base it on 52 weeks either :)
00:42 <PinkTomato> People need rest :)
00:43 <BabyBug> don't people usually get 12 weeks holiday?
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00:44 <Lucifer> BabyBug: not in the US
00:45 <PinkTomato> It's legal to not give holiday days?
00:52 <madmax> 12 weeks? o_O
00:53 <madmax> here I think it's 22 days + "bonuses"
00:56 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: yes, it's legal to not give holiday days
00:56 <Lucifer> in fact, it's generally expected below a certain income level that you don't get holiday days
00:56 <Lucifer> see, the government passes laws that help businesses, not workers, unless there's a significant outcry
00:57 <Lucifer> then they build in loopholes to avoid it
00:57 <PinkTomato> :(
00:57 <Lucifer> so, for example, it's not legal to work someone more than 40 hours a week without extra compensation (overtime)
00:57 <Lucifer> so a lot of companies take programmers on as "contractors" so they don't have to pay overtime
00:57 <Lucifer> and as an added benefit, contract employees don't get medical/dental/sick days/etc
00:58 <Lucifer> that's how EA was able to exploit their programmers for so long, and afaik, are still doing it
00:58 <PinkTomato> !!, that's quite bad, I don't know what our country is like though Oo
00:59 <Lucifer> also, in a lot of larger companies, employees that take time off are discriminated against when it comes time for raises/promotions
00:59 <madmax> so you don't have a minimum number of holiday days?
00:59 <Lucifer> no, we don't
00:59 <madmax> we have 22 over here, and there's a compensation if they aren't "used"...
00:59 <Lucifer> an employer can theoretically require you to work 7 days a week, every week of the year
01:00 <madmax> I see
01:00 <Lucifer> and as long as they don't break any other laws (like overtime), you have to do it or suffer whatever penalties the employer gives you
01:00 <Lucifer> there's a reason I call it the "exploitation market" rather than the "employment market"
01:00 <Lucifer> under the circumstances, working for yourself is far preferable to working for someone else
01:01 <PinkTomato> I suppose the Politicians don't care?
01:01 <Lucifer> instead of losing out on all the benefits, you take responsibility for providing them yourself
01:01 <madmax> Yes they care! er, can!
01:01 <Lucifer> it's not that politicians don't care, it's that they are elected by big businesses
01:01 <Lucifer> we do our best, but by the time the primaries start, big business has already had far more input to the election that my one vote has
01:02 <Lucifer> we don't have a labor party because that has connotations of socialism, and we americans hate socialism almost as much as we hate communism, fascism, the french, and strong beer
01:03 <Lucifer> personally, I'd just as soon adopt some of the european labor policies
01:04 <Lucifer> we can argue all day long about some of them (like how it's supposedly impossible to get fired in France, so workers are lazy), but there's no doubt that many of them are well-intentioned
01:04 <Lucifer> and as americans, we can study many different implementations of the same worker-friendly ideals and choose our own
01:05 <Lucifer> I realize europe is no panacea, but from where I'm standing, there are many attractive options over there ;)
01:06 <PinkTomato> In a way, its weird how different the United States are in some ways.
01:06 <PinkTomato> I think the UK people feel closer to the US, than they do France.
01:07 <Lucifer> well, it's not as bad as I make it sound
01:07 <Lucifer> keep in mind that most people in the US really are good people doing the best they can, and trying to help each other out
01:07 <Lucifer> it's just that it takes a certain amount of selfishness to be ambitious enough to climb the corporate ladder high enough to enact the corporate policies I'm complaining about
01:08 <Lucifer> so there's always this tension between the workers and the managers, and I think the tension is mostly good
01:08 <Lucifer> and most managers are good people
01:08 <PinkTomato> I understand :), I could go on how much I hate certain things about the UK, but it isn't that bad :).
01:08 <Lucifer> every now and then, though, you get a bad manager, or a cadre of bad managers in a particular company
01:09 <Lucifer> even more rarely, but often enough to keep us reminded, you get downright corrupt people in management
01:09 <PinkTomato> Just like you get good or bad people.
01:09 <Lucifer> then we have Enron and MCI/Worldcom, etc.
01:09 <Lucifer> right
01:09 <Lucifer> well, the same fundamental motivators that create bad managers also create bad politicians
01:10 <Lucifer> so the system feeds back into itself for awhile, then there's big revulsion and people stand up and fight somehow
01:10 <Lucifer> in the past it's been the civil rights movement, the labor movement, etc.
01:10 <Lucifer> I sincerely hope the election of Obama represents the people fighting back again and that we'll see some good changes
01:10 <Lucifer> but I keep in mind that by the time the primaries started, big business had already spoken about the process and candidates
01:11 <Lucifer> and they chose Clinton :)
01:11 <PinkTomato> Was Clinton good?
01:11 <Lucifer> relatively speaking, better than anything in the Republican field at the time
01:11 <Lucifer> if she had won the nomination, I may have voted third party, though
01:12 <Lucifer> depends on how important it was to me to keep the republicans out
01:12 <Lucifer> but I live in a red state, so it's not like my vote elected Obama anyway
01:12 <BabyBug> Oh erm Lucifer, i banned flex earlier...not sure when/if you want to remove that...just to let you know though.
01:12 <Lucifer> (although I did make sure to stand up and be counted this time)
01:12 <Lucifer> BabyBug: is there a reason I'd want to remove it?
01:12 <BabyBug> Lucifer, not at all
01:12 * Lucifer doesn't like flex, you should talk to guru3 instead
01:13 <BabyBug> No i'm quite happy for it to stay =P
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01:13 <BabyBug> I just thought it'd be fair i mention it to someone =P
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01:13 <BabyBug> awww no
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01:13 <BabyBug> arf ><
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01:13 <BabyBug> curses, lol
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01:13 <Lucifer> hey, there's a reason he's at the top of the op hierarchy here :)
01:14 <guru3> i'm not feeling to well right now
01:14 <guru3> so my apologies
01:14 <guru3> *&too
01:14 <BabyBug> lol guru3 =(
01:14 <guru3> *too
01:14 <BabyBug> i need to reboot...cpu is stuck at 1ghz >< brb
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01:16 -!- guru3 changed the topic of #armagetron to: PIE! | Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys
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01:16 <PinkTomato> Pie?
01:16 <guru3> no, PIE!
01:17 <Lucifer> PIE! ?
01:17 <PinkTomato> :) nice ?
01:17 <guru3> no idea
01:17 <guru3> i'm feeling unhinged at the moment
01:17 <Lucifer> ah, random crazy stuff is good for the soul
01:17 <Lucifer> do it enough and you might get pigeonholed for being 'flamboyant'
01:18 <PinkTomato> People that are too random are predictable
01:18 <Lucifer> nah
01:18 <Lucifer> come on man, I joined Facebook
01:18 <Lucifer> who could have predicted that?
01:18 <PinkTomato> That's true :)
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01:19 <BabyBug> \o
01:19 <Lucifer> o/
01:19 <Lucifer> orange you glad you use dial?
01:19 <BabyBug> So why is guru at the top? he seems far too nice
01:19 <PinkTomato> o/
01:20 <Lucifer> BabyBug: your question answers itself
01:20 <BabyBug> Whatever happened to nice guys finishing last ><
01:20 <Lucifer> we're supposed to be an inclusive community, which means having the nicest people in charge
01:20 <Lucifer> that's just discrimination
01:21 <BabyBug> and since when has they're been no discrimination in this place?
01:21 <BabyBug> :P
01:21 <Lucifer> for as long as I can remember? ;)
01:21 <BabyBug> psssh yeh right
01:24 <Lucifer> #kick BabyBug improper use of "they're"
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01:24 <BabyBug> .......
01:24 <BabyBug> power abuse!
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01:24 <Lucifer> hey, neil finally came back
01:25 <nsh22> lol sry bout yesterday
01:25 <Lucifer> nsh22: I'm not really sorry I kicked you last night, please don't paste like that in here again
01:25 <nsh22> lol it was an accident
01:25 <nsh22> i was pasting to something else and i mustve pressed ctrl v somewhere along the lines
01:25 <nsh22> wont happen again
01:26 <nsh22> question: can you upload configs (i.e. autoexec.cfg) into the repository?
01:27 <Lucifer> no, they're not resources
01:27 <nsh22> ah
01:27 <PinkTomato> stick them in a settings folder :)
01:27 * nsh22 is dumb and doesnt know how (unless its really simple)
01:27 <nsh22> ill finda way
01:28 <PinkTomato> Is this a local server? or luke's?
01:28 <nsh22> lukes
01:28 <PinkTomato> luke-jr probably has some system installed.
01:28 <Lucifer> ah, you are somewhat limited. I think he has a system installed autoexec.cfg
01:29 <Lucifer> he has to enforce certain settings, after all ;)
01:29 <nsh22> ah
01:29 <PinkTomato> I think he locks the setting in code
01:29 <nsh22> i would put MAP_FILE in seetings_custom right?
01:29 <Lucifer> luke-jr: hey, enforce cycle_rubber < 8 and charge extra for high rubber :)
01:29 <nsh22> lol
01:29 <Lucifer> yes
01:29 <nsh22> ok
01:30 <Lucifer> charge $2*CYCLE_RUBBER for anything over 8
01:30 <PinkTomato> High Rubber Servers use a lot of RAM anyway
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01:30 <nsh22> so any other settigs i want on the server would go there?
01:30 <Lucifer> it really entertains me that only HR players complain about instakills
01:30 <nsh22> hey smoothie
01:30 <smoothice> yo
01:30 <Lucifer> nsh22: yes
01:30 <nsh22> ok ty
01:30 <Lucifer> server_info.cfg is for stuff that's specific to your server, like SERVER_NAME
01:31 <nsh22> oh ok
01:31 <Lucifer> settings_custom.cfg is for stuff that's not specific to your server
01:31 <nsh22> whats everytime for?
01:31 <Lucifer> it gets loaded every round
01:31 <nsh22> ah
01:31 <smoothice> nsh22: make a file called autoexec.cfg
01:31 <Lucifer> no, autoexec.cfg is deprecated
01:31 <nsh22> i cant
01:31 <smoothice> It is?
01:31 <smoothice> I love autoexec!
01:31 <nsh22> same
01:31 <Lucifer> yes, has been since the first 0.2.8 release
01:31 <smoothice> oh
01:31 <smoothice> hah
01:31 <smoothice> lol
01:31 <smoothice> I use that
01:31 <smoothice> for everything
01:31 <smoothice> lol
01:32 <PinkTomato> use settings_custom.cfg
01:32 <Lucifer> it's useful on the client still
01:32 <nsh22> but not on servers
01:32 <PinkTomato> and if you want to be extra neat, physics.cfg, politics.cfg etc.
01:32 <Lucifer> in fact, the reason it hasn't been removed in the trunk is because it's useful on the client
01:32 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that's what I do :)
01:32 <smoothice> ok
01:32 <smoothice> works form e
01:32 <smoothice> PIE! | Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1
01:32 <smoothice> what the...
01:32 <smoothice> Sure... pie is good... but... meh?
01:32 <Lucifer> don't tell me you don't like pie
01:33 <PinkTomato> It's a name
01:33 <nsh22> I LIKE PIE
01:33 <smoothice> well
01:33 <smoothice> Not really
01:33 <smoothice> I don't really like it
01:33 <Lucifer> #kick smoothice doesn't like pie
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01:33 <nsh22> i made a burnt cream pie and i JIMP
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01:33 <smoothice> *sigh*
01:33 <Lucifer> that made me jizz in my pants
01:33 <smoothice> I HATE PIE!
01:33 <nsh22> lol
01:33 <PinkTomato> Oh come on, everyone likes a little admin abuse
01:33 <nsh22> JIMP
01:33 <smoothice> I HATE PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:33 <PinkTomato> Careful.
01:33 <PinkTomato> :P
01:33 <nsh22> go die if you hate pie
01:33 <smoothice> THAT'S RIGHT! I HATE PIE
01:34 <nsh22> get out
01:34 <smoothice> hah
01:34 <smoothice> make me
01:34 <smoothice> Lucifer: not you
01:34 <PinkTomato> smoothice: On a non-pie related note
01:34 <luke-jr> Lucifer: no, the only enforcement is a MAX_CLIENTS cap which is done by a code patch
01:34 <nsh22> lol
01:34 <smoothice> ok
01:34 <smoothice> PinkTomato: yeah
01:34 <luke-jr> config editign is direct
01:34 <PinkTomato> smoothice: how is server going?
01:34 <smoothice> PinkTomato: pretty good... running debian now and waiting for Deb 5.0 to be released...
01:35 <PinkTomato> releases are every 18 months
01:35 * nsh22 still feels bad about pasteing that sh!t last night
01:35 <PinkTomato> ubuntu releases are every 6
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01:35 <smoothice> PinkTomato: 18 months after 4.0 would have been in September
01:35 <madmax> when is 5.0 coming out?
01:35 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: every 3 years for LTS
01:35 <PinkTomato> Upgrade to lenny smoothice
01:35 <smoothice> 5.0 should have been in Sept.
01:36 <smoothice> How?
01:36 <PinkTomato> I think its apt-get dist-upgrade
01:36 <smoothice> I did that
01:36 <smoothice> It upgraded one package
01:36 <smoothice> lol
01:36 <Lucifer> no, it's simon_says apt-get dist-upgrade
01:36 <smoothice> Lenny or Sid?
01:36 <PinkTomato> Don't go for sid
01:37 <PinkTomato> really you should stick with etch for servers
01:37 <smoothice> but but
01:37 <smoothice> Apache 2.2.3!
01:37 <PinkTomato> Lenny then :)
01:37 <PinkTomato> you need to change sources.list first
01:37 <smoothice> yeah
01:37 <smoothice> http://www.go2linux.org/upgrading-debian
01:38 <PinkTomato> did it work?
01:38 <smoothice> I didn't try ut
01:38 <smoothice> it
01:38 <smoothice> I discovered that link 10 seconds ago
01:38 <smoothice> lol
01:38 <PinkTomato> that's how you do it :), just simon_says nano instead of vi
01:39 <nsh22> luke jr: is the server i bought 16 or 10 slots?
01:39 <smoothice> luke-jr:
01:40 <PinkTomato> smoothice: type your question so luke-jr can save an alt-tab
01:40 <PinkTomato> :)
01:40 <smoothice> lol
01:40 <smoothice> I did that for nsh22
01:40 <smoothice> He had no - in lukes nick
01:41 <PinkTomato> oh hehe :)
01:41 <nsh22> ??
01:42 <nsh22> ok well on my server, i can go through walls
01:42 <nsh22> thats not odd at all 0.o
01:42 <Lucifer> nsh22: if you use a person's nick, most of us will get a notification and the line will be highlighted
01:42 <nsh22> oh
01:42 <Lucifer> so if luke's not here when you ask the question, he'll see it when he gets back and usually answer in the same fasion, if you're here
01:42 <nsh22> i didnt know that
01:42 <Concord> fortress?
01:43 <nsh22> id odesnt highlight for me but anyways
01:43 <Lucifer> you can also usually type the first couple of letters of a person's name and press tab to get the rest (tab completion, also available in arma trunk)
01:43 <nsh22> sshould i ask him again
01:43 <Lucifer> no, smoothice took care of it for you that time :)
01:44 <nsh22> any way, if cycle_walls is set to 0.000001, is it normal for you to be able to go through walls(that are infinate)?
01:44 <nsh22> it is confusing me
01:44 <smoothice> {PinkTomato} ArmaServ Test
01:45 <Concord> nsh22, enforce incam on your race server
01:45 <nsh22> how?
01:46 <Lucifer> er, you can't go through walls at all
01:47 <PinkTomato> smoothice: ??
01:47 <nsh22> it looks like i am
01:47 <nsh22> but it could be graphics glitch
01:47 <Lucifer> #cfg cycle_walls
01:47 <@armabot> Lucifer: CYCLE_WALLS_LENGTH: cycle_walls_length_help (default: -1) || CYCLE_WALLS_STAY_UP_DELAY: cycle_walls_stay_up_delay_help (default: 2)
01:48 <Lucifer> #cfg2 cycle_walls
01:48 <@armabot> Lucifer: BALLS_BOUNCE_ON_CYCLE_WALLS: balls_bounce_on_cycle_walls_help || SVG_CYCLE_WALLS_GLOW: svg_cycle_walls_glow_help
01:48 <Lucifer> I don't even see a setting called cycle_walls
01:48 <smoothice> he mean't cycle_walls_length
01:48 <nsh22> im umb
01:48 <nsh22> swalls_length
01:48 <nsh22> walls_length*
01:48 <Lucifer> you've just set a very very very small wall length
01:49 <Lucifer> probably won't even be able to see it
01:49 <nsh22> i know
01:49 <nsh22> but for some reason it stayed up and you could go through it
01:49 <Lucifer> the wall will probably be pulled out of the way before any signicant rubber is used
01:49 <Lucifer> ah
01:49 <Lucifer> get a recording
01:49 <nsh22> well i think it resolved itself
01:50 <nsh22> it only happens sometimes, ask smooth
01:50 <Lucifer> if you can get a recording, please attach it to this bug:
01:51 <Lucifer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/191499
01:51 * Lucifer suspects you're seeing that bug
01:51 <teabot> Launchpad bug 191499 in armagetronad "Walls surviving over to the next round" [Critical,Incomplete]
01:51 <nsh22> ?
01:51 <nsh22> nvm
01:56 <nsh22> luke-jr: how would i get the sty patch on the server?
02:00 <nsh22> where would i find the ladle settings i wonder....
02:02 <PinkTomato> #google "ladle 17"
02:02 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Search took 0.26 seconds: Wok Ladle , 17 -1/2'' Length, 5'' X 4-1/2'' Bowl, Perforated, S/S ...: <http://shopping.msn.com/specs/wok-ladle-17-1-2-length-5-x-4-1-2-bowl-perforated-s-s-wood-handle-dozen-1-dozen-unit/itemid963664504/?itemtext=itemname:wok-ladle-17-1-2-length-5-x-4-1-2-bowl-perforated-s-s-wood-handle-dozen-1-dozen-unit>; Perforated Wok Ladle , 17 -1/2" length, 5 x 4.5 (3 more messages)
02:02 <madmax> nsh22: http://durkas.info/resource/ladle/ladle17.cfg
02:02 <PinkTomato> that works too :)
02:05 <nsh22> am i allowed to use the settings or do i need to ask durks
02:05 <nsh22> durka*
02:08 <ct|kyle> they are published so you can use them
02:08 <nsh22> oh ok
02:13 <nsh22> ok, now the server is bugin again
02:13 <nsh22> its fun tbh
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02:25 <Syntac> i have a problem getting my server to show up on the master list. i bought a VPS for it and have everything set up, i can custom connect, talk_to_master is 1, but it will not show up on the list... any ideas?
02:26 <PinkTomato> what's the name?
02:27 <PinkTomato> and IP :)
02:28 <Syntac> Server name: TESTING SERVER IP: 76.191.99.177 port 4534
02:28 <PinkTomato> is it running currently?
02:28 <Syntac> yep
02:28 <Syntac> im playing in it now
02:29 <PinkTomato> Is TALK_TO_MASTER 1 in the server_info.cfg?
02:29 <Syntac> yes
02:30 <PinkTomato> OK well its connectable.. hmm..
02:31 <Syntac> ok i restarted the server
02:31 <Concord> nsh22, be back in 15-20 min
02:31 <PinkTomato> whats the output?
02:31 <nsh22> lol ok
02:31 <PinkTomato> can you copy and paste it to pastebin please?
02:32 <Syntac> sure
02:35 <nsh22> lol bugs are fun
02:36 <PinkTomato> Syntac: any news?
02:36 <Syntac> im working on it
02:37 <Syntac> im using putty atm
02:37 <Syntac> hard to copy all the text
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02:38 <PinkTomato> ah sorry :)
02:39 <Syntac> http://rafb.net/p/NcmIaJ70.html
02:39 <Syntac> there is a bit, i missed some copying, but i think you can see that its not able to connect to any of the master servers
02:40 <PinkTomato> That's really odd.
02:40 <ct|kyle> is the port open
02:41 <PinkTomato> are you running iptables on it?
02:41 <ct|kyle> also SERVER_IP should be set (i don't think its the problem though)
02:42 <Syntac> the port is open, and idk about the iptables... manta set that server up for me
02:42 <Syntac> im asking him now about it
02:43 <PinkTomato> DNS sounds an issue
02:43 <PinkTomato> ping google.com
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02:44 <Syntac> lol its not stopping
02:44 <PinkTomato> press ctrl C
02:44 <PinkTomato> so that works :)?
02:44 <Syntac> xD
02:44 <PinkTomato> damn it
02:44 <Syntac> yah
02:44 <Syntac> 33 packets transmitted, 33 received, 0% packet loss, time 32010ms
02:45 <Syntac> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 70.017/70.440/71.118/0.361 ms, pipe 2
02:45 <Syntac> those were the stats when it was done
02:45 <ct|kyle> try setting SERVER_IP maybe something new requires it
02:45 <Syntac> try setting it to what kyle?
02:46 <Syntac> its already set
02:46 <PinkTomato> SERVER_IP 76.191.99.177
02:46 <PinkTomato> has to be in server_info.cfg
02:46 <PinkTomato> you'll need to reboot server
02:46 <ct|kyle> anywhere
02:46 <ct|kyle> settings_custom is where we put it and it works fine
02:47 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: what I meant was, has to be loaded on configuration boot :)
02:47 <ct|kyle> ya :P
02:48 <ct|kyle> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:4534. << *.*.*.* means it is not set :P
02:48 <Syntac> ok xD
02:50 <Syntac> ok lemme see if it worked
02:54 <Syntac> http://rafb.net/p/jhG8K192.html
02:54 <Syntac> still not showing up
02:54 <Syntac> :(
02:55 <Syntac> what else needs to be in setting_info.cfg all thats in there is the server ip and talk to master 1 so far
02:56 <PinkTomato> well SERVER_NAME SERVER_PORT, all of these don't affect it though
02:56 <Syntac> those are in server_info.cfg
02:56 <PinkTomato> ah
02:56 <Syntac> i mean... uh
02:56 <Syntac> lol
02:56 <PinkTomato> :)
02:56 <Syntac> settings_custom
02:56 <Syntac> lool
02:57 <PinkTomato> what release did you get?
02:58 <Syntac> i think manta is coming so he can help answer questions
02:59 <Syntac> he said 0.2.8
03:02 <PinkTomato> The bzr version?
03:06 <Syntac> idk he said hes busy
03:06 <Syntac> :/
03:06 <PinkTomato> How did you get the release you have?
03:07 <Syntac> he put it in for me, im a novice at unix commands
03:07 <PinkTomato> ah.
03:09 <PinkTomato> I think you'll need access to someone with a master server.
03:10 <PinkTomato> Probably something wrong with your end though
03:10 <Syntac> i think so
03:10 <Syntac> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:44671.
03:10 <Syntac> whats that mean?
03:10 <Syntac> whats 44671?
03:10 <PinkTomato> I'm not too sure
03:11 <Syntac> [0] Bound socket to *.*.*.*:44672.
03:11 <Syntac> [0] Bound socket to 76.191.99.177:4534.
03:11 <Syntac> is what im seeing now in the output
03:13 <ct|kyle> do you see that failed to connect to master also
03:14 <Syntac> yes
03:15 <ct|kyle> Syntac: can you custom connect?
03:16 <ct|kyle> Syntac: try to ping master1.armagetronad.net
03:17 <Syntac> i can custom connect
03:17 <Syntac> let me try to ping
03:18 <Syntac> PING electricpotential.net (81.235.164.45) 56(84) bytes of data.
03:18 <Syntac> 64 bytes from 81-235-164-45-no21.tbcn.telia.com (81.235.164.45): icmp_seq=0 ttl
03:18 <PinkTomato> that just makes things even more odd
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03:18 <ct|kyle> ya it does
03:18 <Syntac> i agree this is lame, i thought i was doing everything right
03:19 <ct|kyle> looks that way
03:19 <Syntac> maybe its on the hosts side? they do i have a firewall, but i asked them to unblock port 4534 from it
03:19 <ct|kyle> maybe it is a bad build
03:19 <smoothice> I can connect to 76.191.99.177 on 4534
03:19 <PinkTomato> Syntac: that would be it
03:19 <PinkTomato> possibly
03:20 <PinkTomato> you need more ports open than that
03:20 <ct|kyle> 4530 - 4540 :P
03:20 <Syntac> really?
03:20 <PinkTomato> yeah :)
03:20 <Syntac> omg -.-
03:20 <Syntac> lolol i feel dumb
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03:21 <smoothice> Syntac: You're running 0.2.8.2?
03:21 <smoothice> Syntac: You should upgrade the binary of the server to 0.2.8.2.1
03:21 <PinkTomato> Syntac: unblock the ports and try again :)
03:24 <Syntac> i think manta had a problem running installing that build
03:24 <Syntac> i just emailed my vps host to unblock the ports
03:24 <PinkTomato> who is the vps host?
03:25 <ct|kyle> just have him put 0.2.8_armagetron-sty
03:25 <ct|kyle> or 0.2.8_armagetron-sty+ct :P
03:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Death-Arena-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
03:25 <smoothice> Syntac: Who is your VPS host?
03:25 <Syntac> PinkTomato sentris.com
03:26 <PinkTomato> oo ok :),
03:27 <PinkTomato> good luck btw :)
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03:27 <Syntac> hehe
03:27 <Syntac> mkay, i guess ill ttyl kyle and smoothice, cya
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03:59 <BabyBug> Boo!
04:00 <smoothice> BabyBug: Boo!
04:02 <BabyBug> smoothice, fail
04:02 <smoothice> BabyBug, fail
04:02 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: come sleep with me
04:03 <ct|kyle> :P
04:03 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, no
04:03 <ct|kyle> few
04:28 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
04:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is -13.2°F (10:28 PM EST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -18.4°F. Windchill: -31.0°F. Pressure: 30.68 in 1038.8 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect until 12 PM EST Friday...
04:30 <ct|kyle> #weather 60130
04:30 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is -9.9°F (9:30 PM CST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -20.2°F. Windchill: -29.2°F. Pressure: 30.68 in 1038.8 hPa (Steady). Wind chill warning in effect until 12 PM CST Friday...
04:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [smoothice] r730 Merge from trunk
04:33 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: that only works on mardi gras
04:34 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: what?
04:40 <Lucifer> [21:02] <ct|kyle> BabyBug: come sleep with me
04:41 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
04:41 <ct|kyle> oh Lucifer
04:41 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 43.2°F (9:40 PM CST on January 15, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.61 in 1036.5 hPa (Steady).
04:41 <smoothice> #weather 00010
04:41 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
04:41 <smoothice> armabot: fail
04:41 <@armabot> fail
04:41 <Lucifer> it's gonna be dangerously cold tonight
04:41 <Lucifer> 30, according to the forecast
04:41 <smoothice> #help fail
04:41 <@armabot> smoothice: (fail <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo fail".
04:42 <smoothice> #alias add fail say Yeah $1, I know...
04:42 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
04:42 <smoothice> armabot: fail
04:42 <@armabot> smoothice: (fail <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "say Yeah $1, I know...".
04:42 <smoothice> #fail
04:42 <@armabot> smoothice: (fail <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "say Yeah $1, I know...".
04:47 * BabyBug hands Lucifer an electric blanket to warm up
04:48 * Lucifer wraps himself up in the warmth of BabyBug's...... electric blanket
04:48 <BabyBug> >.<
04:50 <luke-jr> Lucifer: sounds like he's making walls shorter, but it's not applying to clients
05:02 <Stewah> La Jolla, CA / Clear / 60°F 15°C / Humidity: 17% / Wind: E at 2 mph
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05:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Death-Arena-1.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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11:48 <fonkay> #weather halifax, ns
11:48 <@armabot> fonkay: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
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12:54 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r788 Merging /team chat bugfix from 0.2.8....
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14:01 <guru3> well i'll be damned
14:01 <guru3> someone doing pm spam on the forums
14:01 <guru3> while i'm online
14:03 <guru3> 76.164.211.*
14:03 <guru3> evil bastard
14:05 <K-Yo> :(
14:06 <guru3> banned his sorry ass
14:06 <guru3> i hope
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14:18 <MrBougo> pm spammers should at least not send their PMs to admins :p
14:36 <epsy> heh
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16:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8826 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
16:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
16:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: Also accept authentication if client sends a server IP that matches
16:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: the resolved SERVER_DNS name.
16:26 <Lizmatic> epsy, you here?
16:27 <Lizmatic> what's this about flex revoking your rights? where'd he even revoke them? :S
16:28 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
16:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is -10.7°F (10:28 AM EST on January 16, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -16.6°F. Windchill: -23.8°F. Pressure: 30.78 in 1042.2 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect until noon EST today...
16:30 <zmanuel> mv "X Clan" "Drama Clan"
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16:39 <BabyBug> \o
16:39 <K-Yo> hi
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17:08 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r983 Also accept authentication if client sends a server IP that ...
17:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8827 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: Fixed compiler warnings for GCC 4.3.2.
17:16 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8828 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): Manuel Moos: Adapted to include file deprecation in ftgl.
17:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8829 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/resource/tResourceManager.cpp): Manuel Moos: More GCC 4.3 warning fixes.
17:22 <BabyBug> Is Manual Moos z-man?
17:22 <z-man> Yep.
17:22 <BabyBug> oo =)
17:22 <BabyBug> You don't do enough work! *runs off*
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17:40 <K-Yo> lol
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18:10 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r789 More GCC 4.3 warning fixes.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r788 Adapted to include file deprecation in ftgl.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r787 Fixed compiler warnings for GCC 4.3.2....
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19:20 * Lucifer got the job!
19:20 <BabyBug> !!
19:20 <BabyBug> Woooooooooooooooooooooooo \o/
19:20 * BabyBug opens the bubbly
19:21 <Lizmatic> gratz Luci
19:22 <PinkTomato> \o/ Lucifer :)
19:23 <akira_arma> @tea
19:23 <akira_arma> .tea
19:23 <akira_arma> ............
19:23 <BabyBug> #tea
19:23 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (4/32): akira, MaZuffeR, pike, °höMö
19:26 <Lizmatic> now find another wife Lucife
19:26 <Lizmatic> r
19:26 <Lizmatic> xD
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19:41 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: working on it, heh
19:42 <Lucifer> so to answer the question, is it possible to get a job with Evil Triumvir listed on your resume?
19:42 <Lucifer> the answer is 'yes', and it looks like it will be a Very Good Job :)
19:42 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I guess today it was too cold for the human, they closed just about every school here
19:42 <Lucifer> heh
19:43 <Lucifer> I rode my bike to the interview :)
19:43 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
19:43 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 46.9°F (12:40 PM CST on January 16, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.63 in 1037.1 hPa (Falling).
19:43 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
19:43 * Lucifer is really happy now
19:43 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is -1.3°F (1:42 PM EST on January 16, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -11.2°F. Windchill: -14.8°F. Pressure: 30.75 in 1041.2 hPa (Falling). Wind chill warning in effect until noon EST today...
19:43 <Lucifer> I'll have my kids this weekend, too, for an extra day even ;)
19:43 <ct|kyle> warmed up a bit :P
19:43 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: did your interview go well
19:43 * Lucifer jumps up and down
19:43 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: YES. I got the job!
19:44 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: Nice
19:44 <Lucifer> they're going to send a formal letter later today, but informally he told me $30/hour to start
19:44 <Lucifer> with a little eval after two weeks, and another after a month, and I can shoot up to $35/hour after two weeks
19:44 <Lucifer> they just have to work out some logistics. Man, I am so excited. ;)
19:45 <Lucifer> I have to call my mom, bbiab
19:45 <ct|kyle> heh see you
19:46 <PinkTomato> #rules
19:46 <@armabot> A web variant of the english language in which letters are replaced with numbers and/or symbols that approximate letters. Though its use is considered cool in certain gaming or hacking communities, it's use here is frowned upon except in a strictly satirical sense. Talking like this was cool when you were 8 and used AOL. Figure it out.
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20:09 <epsy> hello WRTLPR~1
20:10 <epsy> .grep "/.*[s\$][€e]b[o0][l1].*/i"
20:10 <wrtlprnft> hi there
20:10 <tronner> epsy: This data is 50 seconds old: Nothing found.
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20:10 <wrtlprnft> hi armabot
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20:20 <Lucifer> #ping
20:20 <armabot> pong
20:20 <ct|kyle> #pong
20:20 <armabot> ping
20:20 <Lucifer> #ping
20:20 <armabot> pong
20:20 <ct|kyle> #pongy
20:27 <Lucifer> .luci
20:27 <tronner> Lucifer: timed out
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20:27 <Lucifer> .help luci
20:27 <tronner> Lucifer: (luci <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "ls CT_Ady-Lucifer".
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20:28 <Lucifer> there's something wrong with that
20:28 <Lucifer> .alias add luci "ls Lucifer"
20:28 <Lucifer> fucker
20:28 <Lucifer> #kick tronner I AM LUCIFER!
20:28 <armabot> Lucifer: Error: I need to be opped to kick someone.
20:28 <Lucifer> probably for the best
20:28 <Lizmatic> Who came first, Ady or Lucifer?
20:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
20:29 <Lucifer> me
20:29 <Lucifer> he came in using the name Lucifer, unaware that it was already in use, and got everyone pissed at me
20:29 <Lucifer> because he's a smeghead ;)
20:29 <z-man> MERGING IS NOT FUN
20:29 <Lizmatic> Ady-Lucifer is such a silly name
20:29 <Lucifer> so I got poll-kicked a lot for a little while, until people figured it out
20:29 <ct|kyle> z-man: ya it is :P
20:30 <Lizmatic> hhm, merging aye..
20:30 <Lizmatic> lizufer!
20:30 * BabyBug merges her legs around Lizmatic's waist
20:30 <Lizmatic> wait that doesnt make sense.. lizifer!
20:31 <BabyBug> Why not Luzifer?
20:31 * Lizmatic merges with BabyBug, becoming a giant robot destroying everything in its path
20:31 <Lizmatic> ..I should lay off the sugar
20:31 <BabyBug> O.o
20:31 <Lucifer> Luzifer was a similar situation
20:31 <Lizmatic> DONT LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT
20:31 <Lucifer> only he turned out not to be a permanent smeghead
20:31 <BabyBug> lol
20:31 <Lizmatic> Omg, you're not Luzifer?
20:31 <Lucifer> NO
20:31 * BabyBug face palms
20:31 <Lucifer> I AM THE ORIGINA LUCIFER IN ARMAGETRON
20:32 <Lucifer> *ORIGINAL
20:32 <Lizmatic> seriously, I didn't know
20:32 <Lucifer> before me, there were no lucifers
20:32 <Lizmatic> what's with all the luci's :S
20:32 <Lucifer> after me, there were two + me
20:32 <Lizmatic> are you the Luzifer on DDL forums?
20:32 <BabyBug> The same reason there are so many Liz's?
20:32 <Lucifer> no, I'm not
20:32 <Lucifer> I am not Luzifer
20:32 <Lizmatic> ok good
20:32 <Lizmatic> you're the cool Lucifer then
20:32 <Lizmatic> I hate the other Lucifers
20:32 <Lucifer> heh, thanks :)
20:32 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, only other Liz I know is |x| Liza and she used to be Flash, stupid namechanger
20:33 <Lucifer> Lizz has been here when you've been here, recently even
20:33 <Lizmatic> I saw
20:33 <Lizmatic> who is that?
20:33 <Lucifer> she's the lizz I thought you were when I called you a kangaroo lover
20:33 <Lizmatic> Ah right
20:33 <Lizmatic> Never heard of her though
20:33 <Lucifer> she's an aussie, in the FA clan
20:33 <Lucifer> she doesn't play arma very much anymore, I hear
20:34 <Lucifer> she's actually about my age and really cute ;)
20:34 <Lizmatic> ask her out, choosing a liz never turns out badly!
20:34 <Lucifer> I don't internet-date
20:34 <Lucifer> I don't mind using the internet to get an incompetent blowjob, but it still has be a local girl
20:34 <Lizmatic> then grab a plane, or let her grab an ehh.. kangaroo? and travel!
20:35 <Lizmatic> how'd it work out with the librarian?
20:35 <Lucifer> struck out
20:36 <Lizmatic> no woman luck aye :(
20:36 <Lucifer> it's hard to do well when you can't even offer a real date, heh
20:36 <Lucifer> that'll change in the very near future, though
20:36 <ct|kyle> i'm sure he'll start having some once he starts his new job
20:37 <Lucifer> spend the next couple of weeks getting my shit straight, then it'll be time to get to work :)
20:37 <Lizmatic> that's true, you'll have more money
20:37 <Lizmatic> and you're a dollar to women
20:37 <Lizmatic> :P
20:37 <Lucifer> heh
20:37 <Lucifer> I won't date a woman who sees me for my income/income potential
20:37 <Lucifer> but I do need to be able to offer at least enough to do stuff
20:37 <Lizmatic> all american women do that, so you won't be able to date
20:38 <Lucifer> "Hey baby, let's go back to my place and watch pirated movies and eat home-cooked food"
20:38 <Lucifer> I don't believe you, Lizmatic, but I have no experience to the contrary
20:38 <ct|kyle> heh
20:38 <Lucifer> look, I think it's totally reasonable for a woman to look at what a man can provide
20:38 <Lucifer> I look at women the same way
20:38 <Lucifer> so yeah, I think consideration of income is reasonable
20:38 <Lucifer> but gold-digging is not!
20:38 <Lizmatic> of course
20:38 <Lucifer> but I think consideration of job stability is more important than income
20:39 <Lucifer> show me a woman who can keep a job, work a job she loves, etc.
20:39 <Lucifer> that's what matters to me
20:39 <Lucifer> if it's only $10k, I can't see why I should object, if she loves the work
20:39 <Lucifer> and is doing it because she loves it, i.e. not doing it because she has to have *a* job
20:39 <Lizmatic> what if she's a prostitute?
20:39 <MaZuffeR> fortress players wanted at café
20:39 <Lucifer> I can't think of any reason I should pay for sex
20:39 <pikey> aye aye
20:39 <Lucifer> er, yeah, won't date a prostitute
20:40 <Lucifer> or a stripper
20:40 <Lucifer> or a porn star
20:40 <Lucifer> etc
20:40 <pikey> will |X|ers finally join the Ladle ?
20:40 <pikey> we go for the record :)
20:40 <pikey> ok pls continue
20:40 <BabyBug> Maybe once they're called X clan again and not drama clan (copyright z-man)
20:41 <Lucifer> there are no non-drama clans
20:41 <pikey> heh
20:41 <Lucifer> I think people form clans so they can have clan drama
20:41 <Lizmatic> x joined every ladle so idk what you're on about
20:41 <BabyBug> Lucifer, but x take it to a whole other level :P
20:41 <Lizmatic> x'ers are gay tbh
20:41 <Lucifer> you should've seen SP a few years back
20:41 <pikey> k i'll check fortcafe and be back
20:42 <Lizmatic> yeah see i don't get that
20:42 <Lizmatic> so far i've seen cool members of sp
20:42 <Lizmatic> not trolls.. so what's the deal
20:42 <Lucifer> well, they used to troll our forums a lot, and behave like smegheads in general in the servers
20:42 <Lucifer> "SP is the best clan, we're all better than you"
20:42 <Lucifer> you can guess how we responded to that :)
20:42 <ct|kyle> they are the "x F******" <<ladle 13 :P
20:43 <Lucifer> couple of them took personal grudges against me
20:43 <Lucifer> then they had a split, and the Xzl clan formed
20:43 <Lucifer> so we had two SP-type clans kicking around for a bit
20:43 <Lizmatic> arma has more clans than players.
20:43 <Lucifer> I don't know what happened to Xzl, but SP finally got the message that smegheadedness wasn't welcome
20:43 <ct|kyle> .si xzl
20:43 <tronner> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “xzl” at the moment, sorry.
20:44 <Lizmatic> everyone in high rubber = smeghead
20:44 <ct|kyle> i think they died
20:44 <Lucifer> Xzl probably doesn't exist anymore
20:44 <Lucifer> ct formed as an anti-clan
20:44 <Lucifer> I think they were primarily supposed to be an anti-SP-clan, but could be wrong about that
20:44 <ct|kyle> basically, i don't think we even announce on armagetronad
20:44 <ct|kyle> no ct was the wildfort clan
20:44 <Lizmatic> 50% of arma players = ct
20:45 <Lucifer> no, there was no announcement, and none of this "our clan is better than yours, and if you're not in a clan you suck"
20:45 <BabyBug> Can someone please explain the point with clans?!
20:45 <Lucifer> [13:41] <Lucifer> I think people form clans so they can have clan drama
20:45 <ct|kyle> the only one's i would harass are the once with [nc] (no clan tag) because that is just pointless in my opintion
20:46 <Lizmatic> easier tournament organisation
20:46 <Lucifer> hey, remember FE?
20:46 <Lucifer> the Formerly Elite clan? ;)
20:46 <Lucifer> man, we gave those guys a hard time, heh
20:46 <Lizmatic> wasn't radian in that?
20:46 <Lizmatic> and some other low rubber oldies
20:46 <Lucifer> yeah
20:46 <PinkTomato> was [nc] actually a clan?
20:47 <Lucifer> we called them one
20:47 <ct|kyle> no LOL
20:47 <Lizmatic> who can name all the arma clans? i'll give you a gold star
20:47 <Lucifer> in a way, I kind of miss the FE clan
20:47 <ct|kyle> there still is [nc]JC
20:47 <PinkTomato> @aawiki List of clans
20:47 <ct|kyle> #aawiki List of clans
20:47 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.73 seconds: Wraith Squadron - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Special:Random>; 4 Team Fortress Tourney 2 - Teams List - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=4_Team_Fortress_Tourney_2_-_Teams_List>; Playing the Game - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: (3 more messages)
20:48 <Lucifer> it was fun coming up with new meanings for FE that contradicted the official meaning
20:48 <Lucifer> oh yeah, then there was Dinosaurs with Hats
20:48 <Lizmatic> that is one awesome name
20:48 <Lucifer> heh
20:49 <Lucifer> that was Dr Joe Tron, me, fonkay, Your_mom, and maybe another person
20:49 <Lucifer> we would go in and talk all the clan trash, kick everybody's ass, and get kicked from the server
20:49 <Lucifer> it was a parody :)
20:49 <Lizmatic> haha nice
20:49 <ct|kyle> speaking of dr joe did you get an e-mail yet Lucifer
20:49 <Lucifer> no, not yet
20:50 <Lucifer> you outta ask Durka about Dinosaurs with Hats sometime
20:50 <PinkTomato> pru , N/A , N/A , ¦×¦ , >3D> , Aos , .:Avl:. , BD , .Bit , Bloody_ , CT , ¦ctk¦ , {D} , D3m| , dB| , .dBd| , |DD| , DoS , ~|DS|~ , dZ< , .EC|D , F! , |FA| , .fam<3 , |Fw~ , gK , gZ| , -=ID< , |kod| , -=L$) , MBC| , |NIC , ~'Ns. , NW~ , °°ps| , |PwN| , ~qp~ , _~R~_ , r3p. , SK| , ~*SP*~ , {Super} , Tr. , TrT~ , -=VcL. , `Ww , ~XY~ , ~".XzL ,
20:50 <PinkTomato> I thought there were more
20:50 <Lizmatic> oh man
20:50 <Lizmatic> sad thing is, there are more :p\
20:51 <Lizmatic> lets see.. I was in dBd, DD, F!, gK and TrT
20:51 <ct|kyle> ya
20:51 <ct|kyle> LOL
20:51 <Lucifer> you clan slut
20:51 <Lizmatic> and tr
20:51 <PinkTomato> you were in DD :)?
20:51 <Lizmatic> yes
20:51 <ct|kyle> LOL clan that is
20:52 <PinkTomato> Is that were you learnt that high rubber was boring?
20:52 <Lizmatic> in this order.. DD > TrT > gK > F! > dBd > Tr > x
20:52 <Lizmatic> :D
20:52 <Lucifer> if I ever hook up with a lady that plays online games, I won't date a klanner
20:52 <Lizmatic> I started out in DDL, pink..
20:52 <Lucifer> if a lady is so lacking in independence that she needs to join a clan, I'm not interested
20:53 <Lizmatic> pff Lucifer, we klanner lady's are too good for you
20:53 <BabyBug> I don't need to join a clan!
20:53 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: ah, there are about three clans with DD anyway
20:53 <Lizmatic> true
20:53 <Lizmatic> do you know DaL/
20:53 <Lizmatic> dal*
20:54 <PinkTomato> If have seen DD| Dal about
20:54 <Lizmatic> yeah thats the DD i'm talking about
20:54 <Lizmatic> meh, I wouldve still been in tr if flex didnt force me to leave
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20:55 <Lucifer> so that's why you hate flex?
20:55 <PinkTomato> Didn't TR go through a sour patch recently?
20:55 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: I think that statement is true about all clans at all times
20:56 <Lizmatic> I don't hate Flex
20:56 <Lizmatic> where'd you get that idea?
20:56 <Lucifer> er wait, it's BabyBug (hi there!) that hates flex, nvm
20:56 <Lizmatic> they secretly love eachother
20:56 <Lizmatic> and want to make love all night long
20:56 <sinewav> :o
20:57 <BabyBug> lol
20:57 <Lizmatic> err, think I just made BabyBug puke
20:57 <sinewav> so no hope of a flex jr?
20:57 <sinewav> baby flex
20:57 <ct|kyle> sinewav: take off work today since it was "Too Cold"
20:57 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i only hate flex cause Lizmatic manipulated me
20:57 <Lizmatic> and I'm not with Flex cause BabyBug manipulated me
20:58 <Lucifer> sinewav: we already have a luke-jr, why would you want a flex-jr?
20:58 <sinewav> lol @ flex jr
20:59 <epsy> pikey, yes; we will, we just ca't be arsed to copy our member list to a damned wiki page :<
20:59 <Lucifer> wait, epsy's in a clan?
20:59 <epsy> and /me agrees 100% with luci :<
20:59 <Lizmatic> yes, epsy is leader of x
21:00 <Lizmatic> xD..
21:00 <epsy> lol -.-
21:00 <Lucifer> no shit?
21:00 <Lucifer> damn, we need to kick him off the development team then
21:00 <Lizmatic> but an x-x-member revoked his rights
21:00 <epsy> and wrtlprnft too
21:00 <epsy> a honoured one
21:00 <epsy> cough
21:00 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft is in another clan?
21:00 <Lizmatic> epsy, where'd you have your rights removed ffs?!
21:00 <epsy> mbc
21:00 <Lizmatic> MBC
21:00 <Lucifer> mbc is still around?!?!?
21:00 <ct|kyle> MBC, are they even active LOL
21:00 <epsy> only wrtlprnft seems around from my point of view
21:00 <Lucifer> and when did they become an honored clan?
21:01 <Lucifer> aren't they supposed to be the white trash of arma?
21:01 <PinkTomato> MicroBusCity?
21:01 <Lizmatic> epsy, epsy, epsy, epsy, epsy,
21:01 <Lucifer> superceding even SP?
21:01 <epsy> no, flex is a honoured clan
21:01 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: yes
21:01 <epsy> erm, messing up my words
21:03 <wrtlprnft> epsy: “around” is relative…
21:03 <wrtlprnft> i'm probably the aroundest member of mbc
21:04 <epsy> yeah, heh
21:04 <Lucifer> are you also a round member of mbc?
21:04 <wrtlprnft> i think i won a round on their server once
21:04 <Lucifer> I won rounds on their server
21:04 <epsy> then he never played it again :>
21:05 <Lucifer> it's easy to win a round when rubber is so high you can't die
21:05 <Lucifer> but I tended to get kicked when people failed to core dump me
21:05 <wrtlprnft> i still think it's nice for beginners
21:05 <Lucifer> I don't argue that, for the most part :)
21:05 <wrtlprnft> and fun to play occasionally
21:05 <BabyBug> it's terrible for beginners!
21:05 <Lucifer> I only argue that high rubber is like playing in a padded room
21:05 <wrtlprnft> plus it's way more chatty
21:05 <BabyBug> Because they they join fortress or any other low rubber game and do nothing except complain because of the rubber
21:06 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yep, they never learn how to play without the safety harness
21:06 <Lucifer> well, if they stay on MBC anyway
21:06 <wrtlprnft> 5 is wayy too much!
21:06 <Lucifer> or any particular high rubber server
21:06 <Lizmatic> dogfight *shudder*
21:06 <wrtlprnft> you should die if you even get close to another wall
21:07 <Lucifer> then how can you accelerate?
21:07 <Lucifer> besides pressing the brake, of course, but brakes are for sissies
21:07 * sinewav brakes for beer
21:07 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: you don't brake ?
21:07 <wrtlprnft> well, you could aim carefully
21:07 <BabyBug> You people should play No rubber! :P
21:07 * Lucifer speeds through the liquor store's drive-thru window because brakes are for sissies
21:08 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: only as a last resort
21:08 <Lucifer> I finally bound my brake key for fort play
21:08 <Lucifer> but I still have to look it up whenever I want to use it
21:08 <wrtlprnft> it is useful. really.
21:08 <MaZuffeR> epsy, silar on cafe...
21:08 <wrtlprnft> #tea
21:08 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Fortress Café: Players (16/32): CT_l'emmy (peiaemanuel@ct), ct|Puquinho, la preSsion, La ResistANce, le pike (pike@forums), le PlayerNuby, Le ¦<, madmax, MaZuffeR, MrChiCho, u1 725, _-`Ww_ Punish, ~KirBy!<(^.^)>~, ~ReV-Silar, ¦évò¦~<(^.^)>~, ¦×¦le Radian
21:08 <PinkTomato> I'm always braking
21:08 <PinkTomato> Argh Silar...
21:08 <wrtlprnft> so café is being used again?
21:08 <wrtlprnft> woot.
21:09 <wrtlprnft> i should really play more often
21:09 <Lucifer> holy crap, I might be able to afford a real server now
21:09 <sinewav> !
21:09 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has left #armagetron ["Leaving"]
21:09 * Lucifer doesn't know how to live on more than $1k/month
21:09 -!- Lizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
21:09 <Lizmatic> woops
21:09 <BabyBug> fail
21:09 <Lucifer> but I'm about to like quadruple my income, holy crap!
21:09 <BabyBug> low maintenance Lucifer?
21:10 <Lucifer> pretty much, yeah
21:10 <Lucifer> there are some expensive things I want, though
21:10 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: abs(monthly_money - 1000).give_to(wrtlprnft)
21:10 <sinewav> Lucifer: did you get that job man?
21:10 <Lucifer> just found ways to do without them, that's all
21:10 <Lucifer> sinewav: YES :)
21:10 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1176218160.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
21:10 <Lucifer> haha wrtlprnft (hi there!)
21:10 <sinewav> fuck yeah, gz on new job
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21:10 <Lucifer> ty :)
21:10 <nsh22> you got the job? gratz man
21:11 <wrtlprnft> what job?
21:11 <wrtlprnft> grats anyways
21:11 <nsh22> lol
21:11 <Lizmatic> "I'm about to like" Lucifer sounds like a teenybopper gurl!
21:11 <Lucifer> heh, job I've been working on this week
21:11 <Lucifer> Lizmatic: I did grow up in the 80s, mind you
21:11 <nsh22> lol
21:11 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: I did the phone interview on wednesday and it went really well
21:11 <Lizmatic> you must be like, 100
21:11 <Lucifer> did the in-person interview today and it went even better
21:12 <Lucifer> like no, I'm like 34, and you're like really weird, you know?
21:12 <nsh22> lol
21:12 <Lizmatic> wow, you do a great teenyboppergurl impression
21:12 <nsh22> so what are you doing at this job?
21:12 <Lucifer> like thanks.
21:12 <Lucifer> web apps, php/mysql
21:12 <nsh22> ah
21:13 <epsy> BabyBug, coming just to see silar?
21:13 <Lucifer> what's special about silar?
21:13 <BabyBug> haha
21:13 <epsy> he can cut your head
21:13 <Lucifer> no he can't, I have a sword!
21:13 * Lucifer brandishes his foil
21:13 <BabyBug> Getting bored of arma...can't play a game for 2 mins without getting bored now
21:14 <nsh22> haha
21:14 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
21:14 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 8.6°F (3:14 PM EST on January 16, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 1.4°F. Windchill: 1.4°F. Pressure: 29.47 in 997.9 hPa (Steady).
21:14 <BabyBug> armagetron needs new features!
21:14 <BabyBug> like multiple floors!
21:14 <Lizmatic> you played wow for hours BabyBug..
21:14 <epsy> BabyBug, wander around different game styles
21:14 <BabyBug> and jumping bikes!
21:14 <nsh22> brrrrr
21:14 <wrtlprnft> BabyBug: 3d maps would be cool
21:14 <Lucifer> I thought the new penis engine in 0.3.1 woudl be enough for you
21:14 <nsh22> #g 8.6F in C
21:15 <@armabot> nsh22: 8.6 degrees Fahrenheit = -13 degrees Celsius
21:15 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, YES! thank you! epsy (booo) has always been against that idea
21:15 <nsh22> penis engine?
21:15 * Lucifer likes the idea of 3d maps too
21:15 <epsy> BabyBug, I said keep the controls to left/right
21:15 <Lizmatic> I still vote for GTA: Armagetron
21:15 <nsh22> hahaha
21:15 <Lizmatic> where you can steal eachothers bikes
21:15 <Lucifer> we could be light cycles in a medieval castle
21:15 <epsy> Lizmatic, you could just mod GTA
21:16 <Lucifer> I'm in agreement with keeping the controls to left/right
21:16 <BabyBug> Well yeh you keep controls left and right..
21:16 <Lucifer> we've already been over this, we just need someone to code it ;)
21:16 <nsh22> and add up and down
21:16 <BabyBug> But there's ramps taking you to other floooors!
21:16 <epsy> now I still have trouble thinking about where to put "drop flag"
21:16 <Lucifer> and remove brakes, because brakes are for sissies
21:16 <epsy> BabyBug, yup
21:16 <Lizmatic> that's really gay, more floors?
21:16 <Lizmatic> how would that even work
21:16 <Lucifer> yeah, and ramps, and stairs
21:16 <epsy> and teleports
21:16 <Lizmatic> and a kitchen?
21:16 <BabyBug> Lucifer, stairs wont work
21:16 <BabyBug> don't be silly
21:16 <epsy> and jumppads! and void!
21:16 <Lucifer> BabyBug: why not?
21:17 <Lucifer> ah, wait, you're not seeing it the way I am, obviously :)
21:17 <epsy> yeah and you should double-jump the stairs to keep your speed
21:17 <nsh22> dark holes?
21:17 <BabyBug> Lucifer, because you're on a bike..unless you want to introduce stunt points into arma :P
21:17 <wrtlprnft> gravity!
21:17 <nsh22> lol
21:17 <Lucifer> I'm seeing a lightcycle hitting a special kind of wall where instead of crashing, the cycle turns upwards 90 degrees and climbs a new surface
21:17 <Lizmatic> a jump option in tron, jumping over eachothers walls!
21:17 <wrtlprnft> pr some other angle
21:17 <nsh22> that could work
21:17 <wrtlprnft> *or
21:17 <BabyBug> Great! Now someone code it!
21:17 <epsy> I'd rather see a curve, that would be easier to understand
21:18 <Lucifer> jumping would totally change fortress
21:18 <epsy> and ruin it
21:18 <Lizmatic> errm..
21:18 <Lizmatic> higher walls!
21:18 <Lucifer> epsy: leave it to the map designer, I say
21:18 <PinkTomato> how might jumping work?
21:18 <BabyBug> jumping should be server side setting! lol
21:18 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, you code it, nerd
21:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r984 Corrected a word in the english language file....
21:18 <Lucifer> yeah, nerd
21:18 <BabyBug> ><
21:18 <Lizmatic> haha
21:18 <PinkTomato> where would the walls go?
21:18 <Lizmatic> black portal
21:18 <epsy> z-man, language files for .2.8 are locked right?
21:18 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, the same thing could happen that happens with the bug when you go through walls
21:19 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: I think the wall should stay attached to the floor and the height should follow the cycle
21:19 <Lucifer> so you could jump and cut someone off who is in the middle of a jump
21:19 <z-man> epsy: no.
21:19 <nsh22> lol babybug, i have that on my server
21:19 <epsy> ok
21:19 <epsy> gotta work on a little issue
21:19 <z-man> That is, depends on what you're doing
21:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8830 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt): Daniel Lee Harple: Corrected a word in the english language file.
21:19 <z-man> small additions are OK
21:19 <epsy> adding a new string
21:19 <Lucifer> he wants to provide a gungan translation
21:19 <z-man> hure reformats are of course OUT.
21:19 <epsy> heh
21:20 <sinewav> loll @ gungan
21:20 <Lucifer> Yousa been core dump-ed
21:20 <sinewav> lol!
21:20 <Lucifer> Yousa suck
21:21 <BabyBug> surely 3d maps can't be that hard to do....
21:21 <PinkTomato> Hmm, polish.txt and polish_transliterated are the same?
21:21 * Lucifer invites BabyBug to take a look at it
21:22 <nsh22> haha
21:22 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i don't know C/C++
21:22 <BabyBug> although...
21:22 <BabyBug> Where would i look at it! :P
21:22 <nsh22> it would be easier to start from scratch
21:22 <Lucifer> I don't actually know where the map stuff can be found
21:22 <nsh22> in notepad
21:22 <Lizmatic> great, code talk again..
21:22 * BabyBug face palms
21:22 <nsh22> with one finger
21:22 <Lucifer> it would actually take a fair amount of work, though
21:22 <epsy> it's in game, I think
21:22 <Lucifer> well, you could start with the src/tron directory :)
21:23 <Lucifer> luke-jr: hey, what files did all the mapping stuff wind up using?
21:23 * Lucifer isn't really expecting an answer, but a starting point would be good
21:23 <Lucifer> BabyBug: if you already know some python, it's not that hard to pick up C++
21:24 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft coded the cockpit as his first serious C++ venture, and he came from a php background
21:24 <Lucifer> now he's a fine C++ programmer
21:24 <BabyBug> Lucifer, my brain isn't good enough to pick up c++
21:24 <epsy> try coding in PIE!
21:24 <Lucifer> heh, put that on my list
21:25 <Lucifer> I will not date a woman who says she's too dumb to try something new :)
21:25 <nsh22> lol
21:25 <BabyBug> the best i've been able to do is fix the Join Spectator option in the menu's!
21:25 <BabyBug> but that was a piece of piddle
21:25 <epsy> at least you can delete code :)
21:25 <PinkTomato> Well it's small bits of piddle
21:25 <epsy> wait, is it actually fixed?
21:25 <PinkTomato> mix bits of piddle together
21:25 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft started by adding simple bar gauges to the HUD
21:26 <BabyBug> epsy, yup..want a patch :P
21:26 <epsy> attach it to a bug
21:26 <nsh22> what was wrong with it?
21:26 <BabyBug> #someone needs to make an lp search command
21:26 <epsy> nsh22, it does..nothing
21:27 <Lucifer> nsh22: you broke it
21:27 <nsh22> oh
21:27 <nsh22> lol
21:27 <nsh22> at least i gave her osomething to do then
21:27 * BabyBug double checks it still works
21:27 <Lucifer> yeah, without it she probably would have spent more time here hitting on people
21:27 <nsh22> lol
21:28 <Lizmatic> adios
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21:28 <BabyBug> nsh22, i done it ages ago..you give me nothing :P
21:29 * nsh22 gives you a new bug to fix, the alt f4 needs to be tested
21:29 <nsh22> lol
21:29 <epsy> alt+f4 switches to my 4th desktop, as expected
21:29 <epsy> Wontfix
21:30 <nsh22> lol
21:30 <epsy> :)
21:30 <BabyBug> I can only fix one line thingies that all the other people are lazy to look into
21:30 <nsh22> just test the alt f4 function
21:30 <epsy> BabyBug, if you're up to fix one line, check out this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/316374
21:30 <nsh22> lol
21:30 <Lucifer> alt-f4 closes windows
21:31 <nsh22> i know
21:31 <nsh22> si just want to see if it still works, but too lazy to do it myself
21:31 <Lucifer> use shift-escape instead?
21:31 <BabyBug> epsy, oki doke!
21:31 <nsh22> a
21:31 <nsh22> lol
21:31 <nsh22> shift esc is fun
21:32 <epsy> nsh22, write a bot to test such stuff
21:32 <nsh22> lol
21:32 * nsh22 is dumb
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21:33 <PinkTomato> That's a one line fix O-o?
21:34 <epsy> PinkTomato, the rename thing?
21:34 <PinkTomato> yeah :)
21:34 <Lucifer> my favorite bug report was "every time I press shift-escape, the game crashes"
21:34 <epsy> well yeah
21:34 <nsh22> hahahahahahahhahah
21:34 <epsy> it just takes you to like puzzle games
21:34 <nsh22> did somebody ACTUALLY say that?
21:35 <Lucifer> yes
21:35 <nsh22> wow
21:35 <nsh22> haha im still laughing
21:35 <epsy> yes, it was Lucifer's first bug report when discovering about armagetron
21:35 <nsh22> lol
21:36 <PinkTomato> Don't press shift esc then :)? Was that the comment?
21:36 <epsy> not a bug
21:36 <BabyBug> Can somone please explain why make also run configure again?
21:36 <BabyBug> runs*
21:36 <epsy> it does so when configure.ac or whatever was updated
21:37 <BabyBug> ahhhh
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21:42 <BabyBug> i hate the laptop! cpu it stuck at 1ghz again :'(
21:43 <epsy> at least it doesn't need it's crappy drivers
21:44 <BabyBug> lol?
21:44 <epsy> unlike the best GPUs in the world
21:44 <BabyBug> nvidia drivers arn't all that bad...
21:45 <epsy> I'm talking about the best GPUs in the world, according to luke-jr
21:45 <BabyBug> ati?
21:46 <epsy> still wrong
21:47 <BabyBug> erm..
21:47 <BabyBug> i don't know any others
21:47 <PinkTomato> It can't be intel..
21:47 <epsy> You Phialed!
21:47 <BabyBug> ok someone broke the trunk
21:47 <epsy> it is
21:47 <BabyBug> i blame z-man
21:48 <epsy> I'd blame ivantis3 instead
21:48 <BabyBug> no no it's definatly z-man's fault
21:48 <BabyBug> he broke ftgl
21:48 <epsy> wait, he's an ftgl developer?
21:49 <ct|kyle> he probably messed up merging
21:50 <BabyBug> his include line is totally wrong
21:50 <epsy> hah, see you know about c++
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21:50 <BabyBug> i do not lol
21:50 <BabyBug> I can just tell when something doesn't look like the rest of it xD
21:51 <BabyBug> (i could be totally wrong anywhoo)
21:51 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc238035.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
21:51 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: what do you think is wrong
21:51 <BabyBug> well considering i get this
21:52 <BabyBug> render/rFont.cpp:39:18: error: ftgl.h: No such file or directory
21:52 <BabyBug> It has to be wrong :P
21:52 <BabyBug> or...i have a broken computer
21:52 <BabyBug> either way..it's wrong!
21:53 <ct|kyle> he probably forgot to add file
21:53 <ct|kyle> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-armagetronad-work/revision/788
21:57 <BabyBug> Hrmm...If i install the broken FTGL..it compile fine...The working FTGL..it doesn't compile..Irony ftw!
21:59 <epsy> BabyBug, on the rename bug?
21:59 <BabyBug> epsy, no no
21:59 <BabyBug> on z-man's broken include line
21:59 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac7563f.bb.sky.com] has quit ["Leaving."]
21:59 <epsy> Irony ftw!
22:00 <dlh> looks like ftgl wants people to use FTGL/ftgl.h now
22:00 <wrtlprnft> but old versions don't have that file?
22:00 <dlh> which didn't exist in older versions
22:00 <wrtlprnft> great.
22:00 <BabyBug> correct
22:00 <wrtlprnft> who invented that?
22:01 <BabyBug> just to point out though...If you're planning to integrate utf-8 sometime soon, you'll have to use the newer version of FTGL won't you?
22:01 <epsy> when hosting a hybrid game, net state is on server, right?
22:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8831 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/english_base.txt src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: /op should now give messages when resulting access level is same as original.
22:04 <epsy> that's for hoaxy
22:05 <epsy> wrtlprnft, "rain's binary" is what's in ~rain/arma-0.2.8-bzr/ ?
22:06 <z-man> BabyBug: don't blame me, blame FTGL
22:06 <BabyBug> z-man, that would require effort, i can blame you easily here and now =P
22:06 <z-man> apparently, they deprecated headers right when they introduced the new one.
22:07 <BabyBug> But configure checks to make sure you're not running the new one....
22:08 <Lucifer> you are aware that's a temporary "fix" for the crash, and that's all it is, right? ;)
22:09 <BabyBug> a fix?
22:09 <Lucifer> well yeah, if you don't build with the newer version, you don't get the crash
22:09 <BabyBug> but now you can't build with the older version...
22:10 <Lucifer> maybe something's changed in the trunk
22:10 * Lucifer needs to get on 0.3.1 again, but has the kids this weekend
22:10 <Lucifer> actually, I'm going to be awfully busy next week, so I may not be back on it until next weekend
22:11 <Lucifer> school starts again, and I'm working all evenings for the first two weeks
22:11 <BabyBug> whens this new job start?
22:13 <Lucifer> Tuesday
22:13 <Lucifer> and I'll have my kids an extra day
22:13 <Lucifer> I have $145 in my bank account right now, I think I'd like to take the kids out for dinner tonight
22:13 <Lucifer> I'm sure they'd like that :)
22:14 <K-Yo> sure!
22:15 <BabyBug> gotta go, toodles \o
22:15 <Lucifer> o/
22:15 <BabyBug> and yes they'd love it! =D
22:20 <K-Yo> cua
22:20 <epsy> cua?
22:20 <K-Yo> see you all
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22:21 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r985 /op should now give messages when resulting access level is ...
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22:49 <z-man> Merging is hell, merging is hell
22:50 <z-man> especially merging two year old development branches
22:50 * z-man is trying to update the utf8 branch
22:51 <BabyBug> i tried that and failed miserably! \o/
22:52 <ivantis2> guru3, what date was the join/part disturbance from ivantis3? jan 12? it was also going on in ##mac. stupid supybot
22:53 <z-man> Hah, success!!!!
22:53 <z-man> And it doesn't crash with the broken ftgl!
22:53 <z-man> It still doesn't display stuff correctly, but it doesn't crash.
22:53 <BabyBug> Does it display stuff correctly with the old FTGL?
22:54 <z-man> It doesn't compile with old FTGL, I'd guess :)
22:54 <BabyBug> ohs
22:54 <z-man> Better get this into svn before I break it again.
22:54 <ct|kyle> heh
22:54 <epsy> that means no more merging hell does it?
22:55 <z-man> I hope. I'll also try to turn it into a bzr branch so we can merge back and forth easier.
22:56 <z-man> I'm rethinking how the network should handle unicode.
22:56 <BabyBug> epsy, is there already a bug report for that join spectators thingy? couldn't find one but just double checking..
22:57 <epsy> well, the bug report interface has such a feature
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23:00 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8832 /armagetronad/branches/ (utf8/ utf8-outdated/): Making room for restarted branch.
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23:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8833 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/: Restarting utf8 branch.
23:02 <epsy> errrr
23:02 <epsy> trunk-utf8 might have been prettier
23:02 <z-man> maybe, but I didn't want to rename it.
23:03 <BabyBug> epsy, i never saw any such feature...but it's posted now anywhoo
23:04 <epsy> BabyBug, a feature to prevent duplicates
23:05 <BabyBug> oh right i see
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23:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8834 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (34 files in 13 dirs):
23:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: Re-applied changes from old utf8 branch, now found at
23:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: armagetronad/branches/utf8-outdated.
23:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: textures and language directories have diverged and should not be
23:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: merged. If/when this is to be merged to the trunk, the language files
23:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: from the trunk should be taken and reconverted to utf8. Texture
23:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: changes in this branch look more useful than those on the trunk to me.
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23:27 <epsy> z-man, er, actually, I can't reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/316374
23:27 <epsy> did someone fix it already?
23:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8835 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/src/network/nNetwork.h: Made nDescriptor::ID const.
23:28 <epsy> z-man, also the un-*DEAD* also happens with /msg's
23:29 <Lucifer> does it also happen with anything else, also?
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23:29 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8836 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/src/render/rFont.cpp: Fixed utf8 conversion. Thanks to gcc for the warnings :)
23:29 <Lucifer> *DEAD* is just a hack anyway, because messages don't contain enough information for the client to construct the chat line
23:29 <z-man> Right.
23:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8837 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/src/ (thirdparty/utf8/utf8.h ui/uMenu.cpp): Fixed GCC 4.3 warnings.
23:30 <Lucifer> I wouldn't object to it being marked wontfix ;)
23:30 <epsy> also, I can't hit host game from internet game
23:30 <z-man> But nevertheless, the server should send all chat lines as chat packets if possible.
23:30 <epsy> it kicks itself saying I'm running an outdated test version
23:31 <Lucifer> with player link and scope, and it should still enforce scope on its own ;)
23:31 <z-man> yeah, the master server doesn't like that.
23:31 <epsy> er, wait
23:31 <epsy> it rather says server is too new
23:31 <epsy> it actually contacts master servers?
23:32 <z-man> that, too. Use a debug build.
23:32 <z-man> Those don't complain.
23:32 <z-man> Yes.
23:33 <epsy> err, that means one wiki article is misleading, I think
23:33 <z-man> Which one?
23:33 <epsy> I don't know, but I remember reading that
23:33 <z-man> Reading what?
23:33 <epsy> the faulty wiki article
23:34 <z-man> Faulty in which way?
23:34 <epsy> misleading me to think hybrids wont ping masters
23:34 <z-man> Umm, why would anyone think and write that?
23:35 <epsy> I don't know, that was new to me
23:35 <epsy> #aawikis host game list
23:35 <epsy> #help aawikis
23:36 <@armabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "aawikis".
23:36 <epsy> #google site:wiki.armagetronad.net host game list
23:36 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.45 seconds: PlayingGettingStarted - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=PlayingGettingStarted>; FAQ - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=FAQ>; Server Administration Guide - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Server_Administration_Guide>; Console Commands - (1 more message)
23:37 <z-man> Anyway, about https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/316374 :
23:37 <z-man> what happens if you host a LAN game?
23:37 <epsy> works as expected
23:37 <z-man> With a trunk client?
23:37 <epsy> though I actually remember reproducing it
23:37 <epsy> oh, trunk?
23:38 <z-man> yes :)
23:38 * z-man points to the "Status tracked in Trunk" line.
23:38 <epsy> I rarely see that line, not used to it :<
23:39 <z-man> There's too many ways to tag bugs for branches in launchpad if you ask me
23:39 <z-man> you can attach tags
23:39 <z-man> you can target them for releases
23:39 <z-man> or you can track them in development lines.
23:40 <epsy> or link them to branches, heh
23:40 <z-man> Yes :)
23:40 <z-man> And you can't filter the bug list for all these methods.
23:40 <z-man> Only for tags and milestone targets.
23:41 <z-man> That probably means we should use the target to milestone method consequently
23:41 <z-man> and move the bugs we didn't manage to fix by the next milestone to the milestone after that.
23:41 <epsy> that's what I usually do along branch-linking when I think about it
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23:43 <ct|kyle> z-man: so what are you plans for the network code stuff, you mentioned a google code tool
23:43 * epsy was thinking about a CSS-style thing
23:43 <epsy> what's this google thing coded with?
23:44 <z-man> dunno, but it supports C++ and python and either Java or C#, can't remember which
23:44 <z-man> Anyway, plan is simple:
23:44 <BabyBug> Python \o/
23:44 <epsy> lol
23:44 <z-man> For now, strings sent over the net stay latin1.
23:45 <z-man> Whatever fancy new network code we'll use sends them as utf8.
23:45 <z-man> That way, we don't need hackery conversion.
23:45 <z-man> In the current network code.
23:45 <z-man> Which is giving me headaches right now.
23:46 <z-man> That is, it gave me headaches back then and was the reason I abandoned the utf8 branch :)
23:46 <z-man> Which gave me headaches today with the merging.
23:47 <epsy> Thinking about it, it gave me a lot of headaches regarding player renaming, heh
23:47 <epsy> I mean, if we could trigger an action when a player finishes editing his profile sheet, it wouldn't be as complicated as it is now
23:48 <epsy> same goes for teams
23:49 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8838 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/src/network/nNetwork.cpp: Fixed sending zero length strings.
23:52 <epsy> BabyBug, if ( player->NextTeam()!=NULL && player->IsSpectating() )
23:52 <epsy> ??
23:52 <z-man> hmm, bazaarmagetron will be busy for the next couple of hours :)
23:52 <epsy> BabyBug, don't you just want the opposite
23:52 <BabyBug> epsy, That stops "join spectators" from appearing twice
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23:52 <epsy> err, what's the block right before this?
23:54 <epsy> gotta bzr blame that O_o
23:55 <epsy> I guess the guy who put the second block in wanted to put something else
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23:57 <epsy> hrm, it was merged in all directions and through bzr-svn
23:59 <@armabot> lpbugs: [318018] join spectators does...nothing >.< and it's there twice!
23:59 <BabyBug> armabot should link to the bug.. *pokes wrtlprnft*
23:59 <ct|kyle> 318018
Log from 2009-01-17:
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00:00 <epsy> http://launchpad.net/bugs/318018
00:01 <BabyBug> epsy, opposite?
00:01 <epsy> i'll just remove that block
00:01 <epsy> someone wanted it for something else, I guess
00:02 <epsy> but now nobody wants to join spectators when he's a spectator already
00:02 <BabyBug> Yes they do.
00:02 <BabyBug> Or there's a situation where they do.
00:03 <BabyBug> Maybe.. =x
00:03 <BabyBug> anywhoo..toodles \o
00:04 <PinkTomato> bye \o
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00:16 <MaZuffeR> Steve Jobs has HIV: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-182801
00:17 <Lucifer> apple shares take a nosedive
00:17 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-122-104-49.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:17 <epsy> they all wanted to have gaysex with him
00:18 <smoothice> Did I join at a bad time?
00:18 <epsy> that's left to see
00:18 <Lucifer> smoothice: there's no bad time for gay sex
00:18 * Lucifer humps epsy
00:19 <smoothice> Guys! Hush! There's CHILDREN in here!
00:19 <PinkTomato> is that a mock up?
00:19 <Lucifer> it's not real until google news has it
00:19 <PinkTomato> agreed, but its enough to cause a drop in shares
00:20 <Lucifer> it looks legit, but it's been years since I've seen one of those forms, and they do differ from one lab to the next anyway
00:20 <epsy> now wtf has this to do over internet?
00:21 <Lucifer> but I have to admit, I didn't see any of the various other numbers it should have, internal ID numbers
00:21 <PinkTomato> SageLord: What is my first match in fort brawl?
00:21 <Lucifer> it would account for his weight loss, though
00:23 <PinkTomato> Steve Jobs is very careful with privacy though?
00:23 <Lucifer> smoothice: [17:16] <MaZuffeR> Steve Jobs has HIV: http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-182801
00:23 <PinkTomato> I think someone like Steve would make an arrangement to discuss test results rather than mail them
00:23 <Lucifer> yes he is, but there's too much incentive for people to leak details about his privacy
00:23 <Lucifer> and the more he protects it, the more people want to know
00:24 <epsy> sadly
00:24 <Lucifer> they didn't say it was mailed, it was someone in the record-keeping department that leaked it
00:24 <Lucifer> assuming it's legit, of course
00:24 <smoothice> Lucifer: That's shi*
00:25 <Lucifer> also, my personal experience with "medical billing companies" is that they don't know what was done, or what the results were
00:25 <Lucifer> they only know how much it costed
00:27 <ct|kyle> lol so true
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00:27 <Lucifer> but not only would it not surprise me if he does have aids, I don't see how it matters for apple
00:28 <Lucifer> it might screw up their share price for a bit, but I think it'll have no negligible effect on them
00:28 <ivantis2> huh?
00:28 <ct|kyle> With obama's Heath insurance plan all it will do is Drive up those costs
00:28 <ivantis2> obama has aids??
00:28 <PinkTomato> isn't that good? health insurance I mean?
00:28 <Corn> yes, ivantis
00:29 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: quit bitching, the election's over ;)
00:29 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: NO
00:29 <ivantis2> dude that will not be good
00:29 <Lucifer> insurance of all kinds is a rip
00:29 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: everyone was out buying guns tonight
00:29 <Lucifer> ? for what?
00:29 <Lucifer> to satisfy your sense of paranoia?
00:29 <ivantis2> the gun show
00:29 <ct|kyle> i think they are all afraid that obama will ban them
00:29 <Lucifer> obama isn't a dictator!
00:29 <PinkTomato> Obama can't ban them
00:29 <Lucifer> lest we forget, he can't actually pass ANY laws whatsoever
00:30 <PinkTomato> that would be too unpopular
00:30 <ct|kyle> congress has to first, but with a vast majority his party
00:30 <ivantis2> no one forget obama's irc channel
00:30 <Lucifer> it would also ensure a republican-dominated congress
00:30 <ivantis2> #change
00:30 <@armabot> ivantis2: Error: The command "change" is available in the News, Praise, and Quote plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "change".
00:30 <Lucifer> look, have we forgotten what happened to congress after Clinton pushed through his new gun control law?
00:30 <ct|kyle> anyway i gtg, have fun debating it :P
00:30 <Lucifer> you know, right after Columbine?
00:30 <PinkTomato> what does the health insurance mean?
00:30 <Lucifer> when you leave, the debate is over ;)
00:31 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: i was not old enough, I don't knoe about it
00:31 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it means a $20 off card for regular hospital visits
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00:31 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: check it out, then
00:31 <Lucifer> he lost his democrat majority over it
00:31 <PinkTomato> that's not really health insurance...
00:31 <Lucifer> ushering in Newt Gingrich
00:31 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: it's only really useful under these circumstances:
00:32 <Lucifer> a) you have an accident/illness requiring expensive treatments
00:32 <Lucifer> b) you have regular visits that, priced out at regular office costs, would cost more than the insurance policy ($5k/year or more)
00:32 <Lucifer> the kick is, insurance doesn't cover "pre-existing conditions"
00:32 * BabyBug is back! Beware!
00:32 <Lucifer> so you can't wait until you're sick to get insurance, you need to already have it
00:33 <Lucifer> otherwise, for most minor things, like broken legs and whatnot, you pay for those out of pocket
00:33 <Lucifer> that's what "Deductible" means
00:33 <Lucifer> you pay the deductible (usually around $2k) before the insurance covers any costs outside of normal well-visits
00:33 <Lucifer> so the $600 ambulance charge is yours, as well as the $1200 emergency room visit
00:34 <Lucifer> it is a yearly deductible, though, so you never pay more than $2k/year
00:34 <Lucifer> here's the thing
00:34 <PinkTomato> that a year?
00:34 <Lucifer> once you price insurance against doctor's visits, it comes out cheaper to just pay cash at the doctor's office
00:34 <Lucifer> as long as nothing bad happens to you, you come out way ahead
00:35 <PinkTomato> You never know though
00:35 <Lucifer> and as long as the bad things that do happen to you aren't too bad, you still come out ahead
00:35 <Lucifer> indeed
00:35 <Lucifer> since I still smoke, and have smoked for years, I need insurance :)
00:36 <PinkTomato> so obama want's to incentive going to the doctor's?
00:36 <Lucifer> obama wants to provide everyone with Quality Healthcare
00:36 <PinkTomato> Won't that bring up everyone's insurance?
00:36 <Lucifer> his plan builds on the existing system
00:36 <epsy> stop being yellow
00:36 <Lucifer> rather, his old plan did, I think he assimilated most of Clinton's plan
00:37 <PinkTomato> Hospitals are seperate from the state right?
00:37 <Lucifer> yep
00:37 <Lucifer> for the most part, anyway
00:37 <Lucifer> the doctor's themselves also bill for their services
00:38 <Lucifer> so if you go to the emergency room in an ambulance, you'll get three bills
00:38 <PinkTomato> Surely Obama can't really control them in the way he want's to achieve that goal?
00:38 <Lucifer> one from the ambulance company, one from the hospital, and one from the doctor
00:38 <Lucifer> it's not doctors he's trying to control
00:38 <Lucifer> in fact, all he really wants to do is create essentially a federal insurance policy that people can buy that will be subsidized with tax dollars
00:39 <Lucifer> which, short of a complete revamp of the health industry, is what I think is best
00:39 <PinkTomato> So it is one step towards a national health service without the connotations Americans have of it?
00:39 <Lucifer> yes
00:40 <Lucifer> except that many opponents argue it'll have the effect of undercutting private insurance policies and drive those companies out of business
00:40 <Lucifer> and that the federal system won't be big enough to cover everybody, and even if it were, it would reduce the quality of healthcare for all
00:40 <Lucifer> so in the end, it probably won't pass as stated because the insurance lobby is very powerful
00:40 <Lucifer> bbl
00:41 <PinkTomato> OK, interesting, see you later
00:41 <MaZuffeR> http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/ someone has to much time on their hands
00:41 <epsy> #date
00:41 <@armabot> I was just gonna say, eight o'clock?
00:41 <epsy> #alias add date time
00:41 <epsy> #date
00:41 <@armabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
00:41 <PinkTomato> I've played around with that MaZuffeR !
00:41 <@armabot> epsy: 12:41 AM, January 17, 2009
00:42 <PinkTomato> It actually works
00:42 <epsy> 4 days left
00:42 <epsy> crappy shit
00:42 <PinkTomato> until what epsy :)?
00:42 <epsy> until I get fucked and forced to cancel TST
00:43 <PinkTomato> why so?
00:43 <epsy> flex went bollocks and decided to fuck me up
00:43 <epsy> - again -
00:43 <PinkTomato> so you have no control to armagetron.co.uk?
00:43 <Corn> :o
00:44 <epsy> I can just post new entries to the TST blog
00:44 <epsy> so I can put a nice thank you to flex
00:45 <epsy> that's pretty much the only thing I can do at all
00:45 <PinkTomato> can you get the emails of the applicant's?
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00:46 <epsy> no, I don't even have access to the DB
00:46 <PinkTomato> well that's just plain annyoyance...
00:47 <PinkTomato> does flex plan to do it then?
00:47 <PinkTomato> destroying everything now.
00:47 <epsy> to do what?
00:47 <PinkTomato> TST
00:47 <epsy> I didn't think about it
00:47 <PinkTomato> Corn: Any idea what our first match is in fort brawl?
00:47 <epsy> if he thought about it he would have asked angel to .htaccess-Deny me out of it as well
00:47 <BabyBug> flex == dildo ><
00:48 <Corn> Nope.
00:48 <Corn> I'm playing with sagelord i can ask him
00:48 <BabyBug> wait no..dildos are capable of pleasuring women ><
00:48 <PinkTomato> O_o Corn?
00:48 <epsy> er, and I was meant to be he, in my forelast line
00:48 <Corn> fortress you pervert
00:49 <Corn> Pink: he hasnt randomized it yet.. .we're going to do that in a bit
00:49 <PinkTomato> Corn: are we merging teams then?
00:49 <Corn> no, why would we do that?
00:50 <PinkTomato> Because your playing with SageLord?
00:50 <Corn> I meant im playing with him right now... in your server btw
00:50 <PinkTomato> Ah hehe :)
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00:50 <PinkTomato> #ptfort
00:50 <sagemoar> yo
00:50 <@armabot> PinkTomato: {PinkTomato} Fortress Server: Players (5/26): Corn, F!Nudge, nOOb_saibot, SageLord, ~|DS|~G5
00:50 <Corn> hey lawd
00:50 <sagemoar> ;P
00:51 <sagemoar> my bro's using my comp right now
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01:04 <Corn> #shuffle 1 2 3 4 5 6
01:04 <@armabot> Corn: 1 4 3 6 5 2
01:04 <sagemoar> aight
01:05 <sagemoar> that was a test right?
01:05 <Corn> 1 and 4 get the bye on the second round
01:05 <Corn> in that case
01:05 <Corn> sure
01:05 <sagemoar> ok
01:05 <sagemoar> yea in that case
01:05 <sagemoar> ok
01:05 <sagemoar> so here's the real order for brackets for fortress brawl:
01:05 <sagemoar> #shuffle Corn Concord Kyo hoop appa SageLord
01:05 <@armabot> sagemoar: Concord Kyo SageLord appa hoop Corn
01:05 <Corn> Ok
01:05 <sagemoar> winner of concord-kyo will get a bye
01:06 <Corn> Yes
01:06 <epsy> playing roulette? :O
01:06 <sagemoar> :p
01:06 <Corn> #ping
01:06 <@armabot> pong
01:07 <sagemoar> ok
01:07 <sagemoar> so now we need to solve the problem of servers
01:07 <Corn> we only need 3
01:07 <sagemoar> pink tomatoes has already said we could use his
01:07 <epsy> you can use xserv
01:08 <sagemoar> all right xserver it is
01:08 <sagemoar> and then one more
01:08 <Corn> we can probably use a CT server
01:08 <epsy> just hand me config & desired admins
01:08 <sagemoar> compguygene said we could use his
01:08 <Corn> ok
01:08 <Corn> thats 3
01:08 <sagemoar> aight
01:08 <Corn> want to do another #shuffle for the servers?
01:08 <PinkTomato> How about
01:09 <PinkTomato> x for final
01:09 <sagemoar> there seem to be more americans than europeans playing the tournament
01:09 <epsy> well, there's café on the same machine
01:09 <epsy> with all the loosers
01:09 <sagemoar> hmm
01:09 <sagemoar> let me look at the player list again
01:10 <epsy> anyone wants my last quakelive invite?
01:10 <sagemoar> actually
01:11 <sagemoar> some teams have a lot of euro players and some teams are almost all american players
01:11 <sagemoar> here's what we'll do
01:11 <PinkTomato> I kinda guessed that
01:11 <PinkTomato> Euro captains will choose euro players more likely
01:12 <PinkTomato> because that's who they see more on the grid I would say
01:12 <PinkTomato> I'm probably wrong though, ^^
01:12 <sagemoar> right
01:13 <sagemoar> concord: most of your team is american
01:13 <sagemoar> right?
01:13 <Concord> yep
01:13 <epsy> well corn mostly chose euro players
01:13 <sagemoar> well its half and half there
01:13 <Corn> I chose like half and half
01:13 <epsy> ok; I didn't even check :)
01:13 <sagemoar> i chose pretty much all americans
01:13 <sagemoar> appa actually has almost all euros
01:14 <sagemoar> hoop has almost all americans
01:14 <sagemoar> corn-both
01:14 <sagemoar> hoop-american
01:14 <sagemoar> appa-euro
01:14 <sagemoar> kyo-euro
01:14 <sagemoar> concord-american
01:14 <sagemoar> sagelord-american
01:14 <PinkTomato> well that has worked out well
01:14 <sagemoar> haha
01:14 <PinkTomato> Appa and K-yo on X
01:14 <epsy> I'm leaving very soon
01:15 <sagemoar> i think for the hoop-corn, we give them an american server
01:15 <epsy> hoopcorn!
01:15 <sagemoar> well, we already randomized the teams
01:15 <Corn> cornhoop sounds better
01:15 <PinkTomato> #shuffle hoopcorn otherTeams
01:15 <sagemoar> hocoporn?
01:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: otherTeams hoopcorn
01:15 <epsy> sagemoar, make a drawing of the brackets and can produce a table for you
01:15 <PinkTomato> #shuffle compguygene PinkT
01:15 <@armabot> PinkTomato: compguygene PinkT
01:16 <epsy> and I can *
01:16 <sagemoar> what do you mean/
01:16 <epsy> you know, my magic challenge board script
01:16 <PinkTomato> see > http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/schedule/
01:17 <BabyBug> the magic challenge board script that takes forever to understand
01:17 <epsy> (I say it's magic because it's so crappily coded)
01:17 <sagemoar> well its concord-kyo, sagelord-appa, hoop-corn
01:17 <sagemoar> and concord-kyo get a bye
01:17 <sagemoar> the winner
01:17 <epsy> BabyBug, heh well, TST has some complex chalenge boards
01:17 <PinkTomato> epsy: It works though! :)
01:17 <epsy> PinkTomato, adding a feature in this is a pain
01:17 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, So does windows...That's still crappy xD
01:18 <BabyBug> (not trying to insult epsy's thingy there, that's a dig at windows)
01:18 <PinkTomato> :)
01:18 <PinkTomato> epsy: ah I see :(
01:18 <epsy> my thingy sucks
01:18 <BabyBug> Hrmm
01:18 <BabyBug> you might want to rephrase that
01:18 <sagemoar> hahaha
01:18 <epsy> but yeah, it works
01:18 <PinkTomato> does it do byes?
01:18 <epsy> BabyBug, pervert
01:19 <BabyBug> read out of context those last two lines seem...well yeh
01:19 <epsy> PinkTomato, not really no
01:19 <epsy> can be easily worked around tho
01:19 <PinkTomato> ah right :)
01:20 <epsy> ok, have a good night
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01:20 <PinkTomato> xD
01:20 <PinkTomato> ConcordKyo SageLordappa hoopCorn
01:21 <PinkTomato> #shuffle x pt compguygene
01:21 <@armabot> PinkTomato: pt compguygene x
01:21 <PinkTomato> #shuffle x pt compguygene
01:21 <PinkTomato> that was supposed to be a test ^^
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01:22 <PinkTomato> sagemoar: what's the plan then?
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01:27 <sagemoar> sorry, had some issues
01:27 <sagemoar> for the first servers, we should randomize it
01:27 <PinkTomato> agreeed
01:27 <sagemoar> after that, i think depending on what the team captains want, the semis and the finals can be different servers
01:27 <sagemoar> does that sound all right?
01:28 <PinkTomato> if all euro team,
01:28 <PinkTomato> always x
01:28 <sagemoar> right
01:28 <PinkTomato> for final I think
01:28 <PinkTomato> semi final is 1:3 EURO teams
01:29 <PinkTomato> EURO:US
01:29 <PinkTomato> that might enter
01:29 <PinkTomato> so US server for that
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01:30 <sagemoar> err
01:30 <sagemoar> you just confused me
01:30 <sagemoar> hah
01:30 <sagemoar> haha*
01:30 <PinkTomato> :)
01:30 <sagemoar> ok well what i was thinking was, if the team captains want different things, we'll randomize it
01:30 <sagemoar> for the semis and finals
01:30 <PinkTomato> OK
01:31 <sagemoar> thats always fair, right? :S
01:31 <PinkTomato> I'm not sure,
01:31 <PinkTomato> :)
01:31 <PinkTomato> now I'm confused
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01:50 <BabyBug> men are so crap at explaining things =P
01:51 <PinkTomat1> No some people are so crap at explaining things :P
01:51 <PinkTomat1> its not a Man thing
01:51 <BabyBug> prove it
01:52 <PinkTomat1> The amount of excuses people come up with when they have been asked out but don't like the person
01:53 <PinkTomat1> you could just use one excuse and be done with it
01:53 <BabyBug> eh?
01:53 <PinkTomat1> OK,
01:53 <PinkTomat1> that was the first thing off the top of my head
01:54 <PinkTomat1> not a good example
01:54 <PinkTomat1> But that dosen't prove your point!
01:55 <PinkTomat1> I'm just naturally bad at explaining things anyway
01:55 <BabyBug> haha =P
01:55 <BabyBug> you so just shot yourself in the foot :P
01:56 <PinkTomat1> Women would rather hint at what they want though,
01:56 <PinkTomat1> rather than go straight to the point
01:57 <PinkTomat1> so you avoid the situation by not explaining at all.
01:57 <PinkTomat1> , one could argu
01:57 <PinkTomat1> e
01:58 <noob_saibot> im on so many drugs right now
01:58 <PinkTomat1> why so noob_saibot ?
01:59 <noob_saibot> i had my wisdom teeth out
01:59 <noob_saibot> 2 of them
01:59 <PinkTomat1> me too
01:59 <noob_saibot> when today?
01:59 <PinkTomat1> not today, 1,2 or 3 years ago
01:59 <noob_saibot> oh
02:00 <PinkTomat1> but I was under general, so didn't feel a thing
02:00 <noob_saibot> yeah my jaw hurts like crazy but the meds are maddddddddddd good
02:00 <noob_saibot> yeah i was under twilight
02:00 <noob_saibot> i didnt know what was going on
02:00 <PinkTomat1> That scares me
02:01 <noob_saibot> yeah
02:01 <noob_saibot> i was mad nervous bc i never been knocked out before
02:01 <PinkTomat1> Surely the doctors must get some really random stuff said to them?
02:01 <noob_saibot> yeah lol
02:01 <noob_saibot> i was flirting with the nurse
02:01 <noob_saibot> ;)
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02:01 <PinkTomat1> :)
02:01 <smoothice> PinkTomat1: How did you make gold zones for DD racing?
02:02 <PinkTomat1> \o/ at last PinkTomato
02:02 <PinkTomat1> smoothice: code patch
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02:03 <smoothice> PinkTomato: is that open source :P ?
02:04 <PinkTomato> Hoop has not updated it,
02:04 <PinkTomato> I'm not sure the source is on the DD server
02:04 <smoothice> but
02:04 <smoothice> Don't you compile the DD... stuff?
02:04 <smoothice> on
02:04 <smoothice> the VPS?
02:04 <PinkTomato> I do,
02:04 <PinkTomato> hoop might do it differently
02:04 <ct|kyle> you are talking about rubber zones
02:05 <PinkTomato> yeah :)
02:05 <ct|kyle> I've got the stuff
02:05 <smoothice> Oooh
02:05 <smoothice> where?
02:05 <smoothice> svn?
02:05 <ct|kyle> just have not added it to sty+ct
02:05 <ct|kyle> it on my PC
02:06 <smoothice> can you upload it somewhere?
02:06 <ct|kyle> in a day or 2 i think I'll merge it into sty+ct
02:06 <smoothice> can I just see the code lol?
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02:08 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I gotta find it
02:08 <luke-jr> lp:yandere
02:08 <BabyBug> what's that coded in?
02:09 <PinkTomato> ooo its PHP
02:11 <luke-jr> …
02:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: did ya find it? I'm just curious cause I thought about making more kinds of zones that make the tron experience cool
02:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: And I could make code and branch ct
02:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: then if you liked it you could merge
02:16 <ct|kyle> this hack is just a hack off of the death zone
02:16 <ct|kyle> not a new zone
02:16 <smoothice> so then...
02:16 <smoothice> how?
02:16 <smoothice> DD racing uses both????
02:16 <ct|kyle> i want to create it as a new zone type to use spawn_Zone
02:16 <ct|kyle> not both in same map
02:17 <ct|kyle> it is a setting
02:17 <smoothice> oh
02:17 <smoothice> DEATH_ZONE_TYPE ?
02:17 <smoothice> or something like that
02:17 <PinkTomato> SZ_RUBBER
02:17 <smoothice> oh
02:17 <smoothice> k
02:17 <PinkTomato> DZ_RUBBER
02:17 <PinkTomato> with That being how much per tick
02:17 <ct|kyle> DZ_RUBBER
02:17 <ct|kyle> oh you beat me
02:18 <PinkTomato> works with shots too
02:18 <PinkTomato> made a CTFS server with them
02:18 <ct|kyle> that part must have been added in later than when i got this code
02:19 <smoothice> Can you pleaseeeee find the code? I'm excited
02:19 <PinkTomato> I can't remember how now.
02:19 <PinkTomato> smoothice: hoop.altervista.something
02:19 <PinkTomato> http://hoop.altervista.org/
02:19 <ct|kyle> smoothice: give me a few minutes and i'll merge it 5 small changes
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02:20 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: does yours have RACE_END_DELAY?
02:20 <smoothice> PinkTomato: hoop doesn't have gold zones up there
02:20 <ct|kyle> I think so
02:20 <smoothice> I just lookeded
02:20 <smoothice> it isn't lol
02:20 <PinkTomato> smoothice: this will be the right version then :)
02:21 <ct|kyle> i guess it does not
02:21 <PinkTomato> ah that was it
02:21 <PinkTomato> shots are death zones
02:21 <PinkTomato> so there were no changes
02:21 <ct|kyle> heh that is right :P
02:22 <ct|kyle> in 20 minutes i'll have it 1 way or the other
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02:28 <ct|kyle> .part
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02:29 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: so zombies would also be rubber zones too
02:29 <PinkTomato> I think so
02:30 <PinkTomato> not tried it
02:30 <ct|kyle> i am pretty sure i remember that in the code :P
02:31 <PinkTomato> I think there was a SHOT_RUBBER too though
02:31 <ct|kyle> could have been, not really hard to modify that
02:32 <ct|kyle> it would have been on zombies though
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03:15 <smoothice> ct|kyle: any luck?
03:18 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Grail-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
03:18 <luke-jr> oh crap
03:19 <smoothice> ????
03:19 <luke-jr> better buy that N810 quick
03:19 <luke-jr> some lame company is trying to block Nokia from selling in US
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03:25 <ct|kyle> smoothice: About to try it
03:25 <ct|kyle> took longer than i thought sorry
03:25 <smoothice> ct
03:25 <smoothice> ct|kyle: it's fine
03:26 <ct|kyle> i made it for SPAWN_ZONE
03:28 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok awesome... Cannot wait. Are you adding to sty+ct
03:28 <smoothice> ?
03:29 <ct|kyle> smoothice: once i test (fix a bug)
03:29 <smoothice> k
03:32 <smoothice> Lucifer: utf8-armagetronad-work
03:32 <smoothice> Lucifer: ????
03:32 <Lucifer> what about it and why are you asking me?
03:32 <smoothice> Not sure....
03:32 <smoothice> Just curious
03:32 <BabyBug> Has that been pushed to yet?
03:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: while you were gone
03:33 <BabyBug> ct|kyle?
03:33 <smoothice> ct|kyle: Tell me when you've pushed to sty+ct and I'll check it out.... thanks
03:33 <ct|kyle> utf8 was pushed to
03:34 <BabyBug> according to LP it still hasn't been pushed to...
03:34 <ct|kyle> smoothice: (lots of errors :/)
03:34 <Lucifer> it could take awhile
03:34 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: (17:49:05) armabot: armagetronad: z-man * r8838 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/src/network/nNetwork.cpp: Fixed sending zero length strings.
03:34 <Lucifer> that's a svn commit message
03:34 <BabyBug> oh that's svn..
03:34 <Lucifer> for z-man's actual user, not bazaarmagetron
03:35 <ct|kyle> ah
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03:46 <smoothice> ct|kyle: progress in the last ten minutes?
03:47 <luke-jr> TWG in #ArmaTWGeTRON!
03:47 <luke-jr> minus the !
03:48 <ct|kyle> smoothice: 2 errors
03:48 <smoothice> ct|kyle: w00t!
03:50 <ct|kyle> smoothice: 1*
03:50 <smoothice> ct|kyle: even better
03:55 <madmax> hey! someone fix the -0.0 bug!
03:56 <ct|kyle> madmax: what is that one?
03:56 <ct|kyle> smoothice: I think 0 now (must try it out)
03:56 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok cool
04:02 <madmax> ct|kyle: not sure if it's dependent on the cockpit, but on the one I use, the brake meter goes from max to 0, and near 0 it goes through 0.0 and -0.0
04:03 <madmax> this isn't new anyway
04:06 <ct|kyle> smoothice: btw i still have 1
04:06 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ok
04:10 <smoothice> ct|kyle: be back soon
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04:18 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you fail =P
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04:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: back.... any progress?
04:20 <ct|kyle> smoothice: bugs gone , not working :/
04:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r794 Fixed sending zero length strings.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r793 Fixed GCC 4.3 warnings.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r792 Fixed utf8 conversion. Thanks to gcc for the warnings :)... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r791 Made nDescriptor::ID const.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r790 Re-applied changes from old utf8 branch, now found at...
04:43 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you FAIL, i bet you can't do what i am doing
04:43 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i bet i can!
04:43 <ct|kyle> implement SPAWN_ZONE rubber ........
04:43 <BabyBug> easy!
04:43 <ct|kyle> LIES
04:43 <ct|kyle> prove it
04:44 <BabyBug> i've said this before..i don't know c++..of course i couldn't do it you twit
04:44 <BabyBug> But you still fail
04:45 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you FAIl too
04:45 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, the difference appears to be, I'm the only one who doesn't have a problem with it =P
04:53 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Grail-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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05:09 <BabyBug> Stewah!
05:09 <Stewah> BabyBug!
05:09 <BabyBug> liar
05:09 <Stewah> D:
05:09 <Stewah> How dare thou?
05:10 <BabyBug> it's quite easy really, i pushed down 5 times on the keyboard :D
05:10 <Stewah> lol
05:10 <Stewah> But who's the liar? D:
05:11 <BabyBug> you
05:11 <Stewah> About what?
05:11 <BabyBug> no idea, i'm sure you've lied about something in your lifetime
05:11 <Stewah> lol
05:11 <Stewah> it is quite possible
05:11 <Stewah> but then wouldn't you also be a liar?
05:12 <BabyBug> I only lied to people i hate, so that doesn't count
05:12 <Stewah> Does too
05:12 <BabyBug> does not
05:12 <Stewah> Does too
05:12 <BabyBug> does not
05:12 <Stewah> Does too
05:12 <BabyBug> #kick Stewah DOES NOT!
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05:12 <BabyBug> xD
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05:13 <Stewah> D:
05:13 <BabyBug> Hiya! =P
05:13 <Stewah> Auotjoin didn't work? D:
05:13 <Stewah> oh wait
05:13 <Stewah> nvm
05:13 <Stewah> lol
05:13 <BabyBug> lol ^^
05:13 <Stewah> Does too
05:13 <Stewah> :D
05:13 <BabyBug> ......
05:17 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
05:17 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is -8.1°F (11:14 PM EST on January 16, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -14.8°F. Windchill: -7.6°F. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036.1 hPa (Falling). Wind chill warning in effect until 7 am EST Saturday...
05:18 <BabyBug> why are americans so fascinated by the weater?
05:18 <Stewah> La Jolla, CA / Clear / 57°F 14°C / Humidity: 14% / Wind: S at 1 mph
05:18 <Stewah> Why not?
05:18 <Lucifer> oh good, I get to keep working with my favorite instructor this semester
05:18 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
05:18 <BabyBug> \o/
05:18 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 45.7°F (10:15 PM CST on January 16, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Falling).
05:18 <BabyBug> Everything's going right Lucifer \o/
05:18 <Lucifer> BabyBug: because unlike the UK, the weather in America actually changed from day to day
05:19 <Lucifer> BabyBug: :)
05:19 <BabyBug> it changes here from day to day too...
05:19 <Lucifer> from wet to wetter and back again?
05:19 <BabyBug> no...from wet, to cold and back again
05:19 <Lucifer> heh
05:19 <BabyBug> =P
05:20 <Lucifer> just wait until the summer, when we all start waving our dicks around about who's got the worst summer weather
05:20 * Lucifer usually wins that one
05:20 <BabyBug> Summer here hasn't be -too- bad last couple of years
05:20 <Stewah> lol
05:20 <BabyBug> been having heatwaves every summer
05:20 <Stewah> Lucifer: you cheat with that one
05:21 <Lucifer> Stewah: cheating is .... ?
05:21 <Lucifer> using my devilish powers?
05:21 <Stewah> yes
05:21 <Lucifer> heh
05:21 <Lucifer> there's a reason people say Texas is hotter than hell....
05:21 <Lucifer> IT'S NOT BECAUSE I LIVE HERE!
05:21 <BabyBug> Hey! That utf branch actually works!!
05:22 <BabyBug> sort of..
05:22 <Lucifer> of course, z-man touched it
05:22 <Lucifer> whatever z-man touches magically works
05:22 <Lucifer> whatever I touch magically breaks
05:22 <BabyBug> the only problem is...the Headers for the server browser are out of alignment
05:22 <Lucifer> that's why he's on the stable branch and I'm on the development branch
05:22 <Lucifer> server browser needs a rewrite
05:22 <BabyBug> and on the main menu it has "main_menu_about_text" instead of About
05:22 <Lucifer> hell, all the gui stuff needs a rewrite
05:22 <BabyBug> lol
05:23 <Lucifer> oh yeah, I downloaded the zend framework so I could fool with it
05:25 <BabyBug> zend is the encrypt thingy right?
05:25 <Lucifer> no, php application framework
05:26 <Lucifer> I just remembered something that was really cool, though
05:26 <BabyBug> Oh
05:26 <BabyBug> what's that thing which encrypts PHP code?
05:26 <Lucifer> the guys that interviewed me said they'd run my resume through the validator, css too
05:26 <Lucifer> zend might do that too, there's the zend optimizer
05:26 <BabyBug> ah right thought it was ^^
05:26 <Lucifer> he said my resume was one of the first that actually validated, and most that they'd received didn't validate
05:26 <BabyBug> haha nice =)
05:28 <BabyBug> z-main should of merged that into the main trunk! (it'd help force it get finished xD)
05:29 <BabyBug> Lucifer, had you validated it yourself when you made it?
05:29 <Lucifer> it's been awhile
05:29 <Lucifer> I check it periodically, though, when it's been through revisions
05:29 <Lucifer> so I validated the last website layout I made (the green one, you probably didn't see it)
05:29 <Lucifer> since I only did a facelift earlier this month, I didn't re-check it
05:30 <Lucifer> but see, it's a generated site
05:30 <BabyBug> ah
05:30 <BabyBug> generated?
05:30 <Lucifer> I use txt2tags to generate it, and most/all of the custom xhtml I've added to it has already been tested quite a bit
05:30 <BabyBug> >< lol
05:32 <BabyBug> what timezone is z-man in?
05:32 <Stewah> the other one
05:32 <Lucifer> UTC+1 I think
05:32 <Lucifer> He's in Cologne
05:32 <BabyBug> he's in where? O.o
05:33 <BabyBug> <-- crappy at geography
05:33 <BabyBug> #google Cologne
05:33 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.14 seconds: Cologne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne>; Cologne - City online: <http://www.koeln.de/en/>; Discount Cologne and Discount Fragrances - Perfume.com: <http://www.perfume.com/men>; AskMen.com - Men's cologne: <http://www.askmen.com/fashion/trends/17_fashion_men.html>; Cologne and after shave at FragranceX.com: (2 more messages)
05:34 <BabyBug> ahhh Germany
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05:35 <BabyBug> where are there 3 fricken ivantis' in here again
05:35 <BabyBug> s/where/why/
05:36 <Lucifer> #kick ivantis_ I love kicking ivantis
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05:36 <Lucifer> #kick ivantis2 I love kicking ivantis
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05:36 <Lucifer> #kick ivantis3 I love kicking ivantis
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05:36 <BabyBug> >< lol
05:36 <Lucifer> we'll see which one comes back
05:37 <BabyBug> ivantis3 is the crappy little bot
05:37 <BabyBug> ivantis_ was running max
05:37 <BabyBug> ivantis2 was running ubuntu
05:37 <BabyBug> mac*
05:38 <BabyBug> i say ban the lot of em!
05:38 <BabyBug> *evil*
05:41 <BabyBug> How's 0.3.1 coming along anywhoo? (what's holding it back)
05:41 <smoothice> I don't give a crud to 0.3
05:41 <smoothice> Who cares when it isn't even publicized?
05:41 <smoothice> Despite it's unstability
05:42 <Lucifer> 0.3.1 is currently paused while I take care of personal shit
05:43 <Lucifer> on the flip side, though, I'll be able to work on the windows build stuff myself when school starts again
05:43 <BabyBug> smoothice, If no one cared, no one would test/report bugs, which means no progress would ever be made and there will never be a new version
05:43 <smoothice> lol
05:43 <smoothice> ok
05:43 <BabyBug> (and it's better than 0.2.x)
05:47 <BabyBug> Lucifer, There should be no windows build!
05:47 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r654 Adding Rubber zones
05:47 <Lucifer> but 90% of our audience is windows users! We need them to help test!
05:48 <BabyBug> It is? O.o
05:48 <Lucifer> I may be too sleepy to figure out this zend stuff right now
05:49 <BabyBug> Are there any real stats as to what os people are using? :P
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05:53 <ivantis2> hey that wasnt nice
05:53 <Lucifer> the master server
05:53 <BabyBug> #kick ivantis2 my turn, my turn!
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05:54 <BabyBug> oh it does actually find out? welll
05:54 <BabyBug> Hrmm why isn't he coming back ><
05:55 <Lucifer> whenever I get my master server running again, I'll try to remember to write some good reports
05:55 <Lucifer> hey, maybe you could do that :)
05:55 <Lucifer> just a little python
05:55 <BabyBug> =D
05:55 <Lucifer> it's actually easy python, even
05:56 <Lucifer> it's all string parsing, counting, and writing to a file (write xhtml to the file and I can put it on my website)
05:56 <BabyBug> cool =D
05:56 <BabyBug> i can do that easy peesy
06:00 <Lucifer> you just need a copy of the log, or at least a sample
06:00 <BabyBug> yup
06:00 <Lucifer> I don't have a copy, my master server is currently sitting in a physics lab that I have to drive to
06:00 <Lucifer> hit up z-man, guru3, or wrtlprnft
06:00 <Lucifer> I think they've got the other master servers
06:01 <BabyBug> arf it would be all the guys who are sleeping ><
06:02 <Lucifer> sorry
06:02 <BabyBug> lol
06:02 <Lucifer> I'm afriad to drive my car right now, I've gotten 3 tickes in 3 months for driving without insurance
06:02 <Lucifer> I may already be doomed
06:02 <BabyBug> O.o
06:02 <Lucifer> also, until the semester starts, I don't know when someone will be in that lab to let me retrieve my computer
06:02 <BabyBug> why don't you have insurance? lmao
06:02 <Lucifer> because I don't have the money
06:03 <Lucifer> last few months have been a little rough
06:03 <BabyBug> oh =(
06:03 <BabyBug> New job now though \o/
06:03 <Lucifer> :)
06:04 <BabyBug> armabot needs a feature to #m the first out of x amount of people to show up :D
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06:09 <Lucifer> armabot's written in python
06:14 <BabyBug> it is
06:14 <BabyBug> lol
06:14 <BabyBug> i thought it was a supybot?
06:15 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ya wich is python
06:15 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i know =P The way lucifer said it, sounded a bit like it was coded from scratch by wrtl =)
06:15 <ct|kyle> parts are probably :P
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06:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/PsychotropiC/Metropolis-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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06:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/PsychotropiC/Metropolis-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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06:58 <Lucifer> heh, I think I might have had someone who's not a bot answer my trolling personal ad on craigslist
07:00 <BabyBug> lol
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07:42 * BabyBug hates math!
07:47 * BabyBug pokes Lucifer
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08:20 * Lucifer snores
08:21 <BabyBug> Lucifer, know of a way to round UP a float in python? so.... 2.2 would round up to 3?
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09:07 <Lizmatic> mornin'
09:09 <epsy> hi
09:10 <BabyBug> Hiya!
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09:12 <epsy> #eightball why does it keep crashing ?
09:12 <@armabot> epsy: It is possible.
09:12 <epsy> #eightball why does it keep crashing ?
09:12 <@armabot> epsy: Of course.
09:13 <epsy> answer correctly, duh
09:13 <epsy> #eightball why does it keep crashing ?
09:13 <@armabot> epsy: Yes!
09:13 <epsy> #eightball why does it keep crashing ?
09:13 <@armabot> epsy: It shall be.
09:14 <BabyBug> what keeps crashing?
09:14 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18978&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
09:14 <epsy> the 100% working server
09:15 <BabyBug> i see
09:15 * BabyBug goes back to her math
09:16 <epsy> try to use python, it's easier for computing 1+1
09:16 <BabyBug> i am using python!
09:16 <BabyBug> =P
09:16 <epsy> rofl :D
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09:16 <BabyBug> I'm making a graph generator! \o/
09:17 <BabyBug> (i'm bored, haven't slept, and it's a chance to learn how to use PIL =P)
09:18 <BabyBug> speaking of crashes though. where's teabot?
09:19 <epsy> ded
09:22 <Lizmatic> I'm waiting for naruto shippuuden 92 to download, slow torrent
09:23 <BabyBug> addict!
09:25 <epsy> we will laugh when she realises she downloaded hentaï
09:25 <Lizmatic> and once I receive my paycheck I'll buy a new blackberry because my old one is boring
09:25 <Lizmatic> o/
09:26 <epsy> you didn't eat it already?
09:29 * epsy is still waiting for his new phone
09:30 * BabyBug dances up and down... wooo utf works \o/
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12:10 <wrtlprnft> woot, the new utf-8 branch works for me :-)
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12:50 <Lizmatic> epsy, what phone did you buy? :)
12:50 <epsy> n95
12:56 <Lizmatic> ew, why
12:57 <epsy> because I don't want a tactile samsung
13:10 <@armabot> armacommits: [multifetch] r5 Allow hybrid fetches for incomplete branches, for example...
13:28 <epsy> Right, TST is fucked.
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8839 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac):
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: Checking for header FTGL/ftgl.h which we're using now, and which
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: conveniently appeared right at the time all char* input started
13:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: getting interpreted as UTF8 by ftgl, which we now want to rely on.
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14:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r795 Checking for header FTGL/ftgl.h which we're using now, and w...
14:14 <wrtlprnft> #help #armacommits
14:14 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: There is no command "#armacommits".
14:14 <wrtlprnft> #help armacommits
14:14 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: (armacommits [<number of headlines>]) -- Reports the titles for armacommits at the RSS feed <http://feeds.launchpad.net/armagetronad/revisions.atom>. If <number of headlines> is given, returns only that many headlines. RSS feeds are only looked up every supybot.plugins.RSS.waitPeriod seconds, which defaults to 1800 (30 minutes) since that's what most websites prefer.
14:15 <wrtlprnft> nice catch, whoever found that…
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15:18 <K-Yo> hey, only sty has svg output?
15:21 <zmanuel> Dunno, how is it activated?
15:23 <zmanuel> I'd even say only ct+sty has it. I don't remember it being in sty.
15:30 <wrtlprnft> sty+ct has it, yeah
15:31 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: hmm, i now have two completely different machines which refuse to compile arma with zthread…
15:31 <wrtlprnft> one of the tests gets run with gcc instead of g++
15:31 <zmanuel> oh?
15:32 <wrtlprnft> the one that just compiles #include <zthread/ZThread.h>\nmain(return 0;)
15:38 <zmanuel> I only get one test compilation, compiling a complicated file.
15:39 <zmanuel> And that's done with g++. CXX is copied over to CC for that test.
15:39 <wrtlprnft> i know
15:40 <wrtlprnft> but in config.log it still says gcc
15:40 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/config.log
15:40 <wrtlprnft> reverse search for ftgl
15:42 <zmanuel> ./conftest: error while loading shared libraries: libZThread-2.3.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
15:43 <zmanuel> sounds like your prefix/lib directory is not in the library search path
15:43 <zmanuel> (that's before the faulty gcc test is executed)
15:44 <wrtlprnft> hmm
15:45 <zmanuel> The gcc error is in the "checking why previous test failed" bit.
15:45 <zmanuel> Of course, it's still an error we should fix :)
15:48 <wrtlprnft> thanks, now it's working :-)
15:48 <zmanuel> also, the test adds -lZThread even if it fails.
15:48 <zmanuel> buggedybug.
15:49 <wrtlprnft> now, next issue: it checks for ftgl.h without first including whatever CFLAGS ftgl wants
15:49 <wrtlprnft> so if ftgl is installed in a prefix the test fails even if ftgl is recent enough
15:51 <zmanuel> Hmm, it does add the pkgconfig cflags output for ftgl to cppflags before the check.
15:52 <zmanuel> can I get the output of 'pkg-config ftgl --cflags'?
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15:54 <wrtlprnft> mathias@earth 1 $ PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/lib/pkgconfig pkg-config ftgl --cflags ~/armagetronad3/utf8-armagetronad-work/build2
15:54 <wrtlprnft> -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include/FTGL
15:54 <wrtlprnft> mathias@earth $ ls /home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include/FTGL ~/armagetronad3/utf8-armagetronad-work/build2
15:54 <wrtlprnft> FTGL
15:54 <zmanuel> also, grr:
15:54 <zmanuel> /usr/local/include/FTGL/ftgl.h:81:1: error: C++ style comments are not allowed in ISO C90
15:54 <zmanuel> /usr/local/include/FTGL/ftgl.h:81:1: error: (this will be reported only once per input file)
15:55 <zmanuel> and an updated config.log?
15:55 <wrtlprnft> done, same location
15:58 <zmanuel> The flags get added fine, but something is borked about your headers.
15:58 <zmanuel> The custom prefix headers probably include incompatible system wide headers.
15:58 <zmanuel> In file included from /home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include/FTGL/ftgl.h:32,
15:58 <zmanuel> from conftest.c:57:
15:58 <zmanuel> /usr/include/ft2build.h:56:38: error: freetype/config/ftheader.h: No such file or directory
15:58 <zmanuel> In file included from conftest.c:57:
15:59 <zmanuel> Do you have freetype also installed in a custom spot?
15:59 <wrtlprnft> no, it's supposed to use the systemwide one
15:59 <wrtlprnft> shouldn't that be possible somehow?
16:00 <zmanuel> Sure.
16:00 <zmanuel> The problem is that for me, FTGL cflags include the freetype include path
16:00 <zmanuel> for you, they don't.
16:00 <zmanuel> Easy solution: test for freetype before testing for FTGL
16:01 <zmanuel> and add their include path, too.
16:01 <wrtlprnft> configure:14865: gcc -E -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include -I/home/mathias/armagetronad3/ftgl/include/FTGL conftest.c
16:01 <wrtlprnft> why the hell is it using gcc again? :o
16:02 <wrtlprnft> by the way, this is fedora 10, if that helps
16:04 <zmanuel> It's using gcc because it's using gcc for all tests.
16:04 <wrtlprnft> so this isn't an issue if the included files are c++?
16:04 <zmanuel> of course it's an issue :)
16:04 * zmanuel checks autotool docs
16:04 <wrtlprnft> that's what i though
16:04 <wrtlprnft> t
16:06 <zmanuel> Aha. I think we need to rewrite stuff a bit :)
16:06 <zmanuel> There's AC_LANG
16:07 <zmanuel> you can pass it C++ as an argument, and then the following tests will be done using CXX.
16:07 <wrtlprnft> that sounds reasonable
16:07 <zmanuel> So it seems the recommended way to handle stuff is this:
16:07 <zmanuel> - test all C libraries
16:07 <wrtlprnft> if it works…
16:07 <zmanuel> - AC_LANG([C++])
16:07 <zmanuel> - Test all C++ libraries.
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16:08 <zmanuel> Of course, that's all guessing, and we should look at the actual docs. /me just googled.
16:08 <zmanuel> anyway, cooking time.
16:08 <epsy> PIE!
16:08 <wrtlprnft> guten appetit.
16:11 <wrtlprnft> (http://example.org/test?a=b&c)
16:11 <wrtlprnft> interesting
16:11 <wrtlprnft> konsole 4.x tries to detect links
16:12 <epsy> gives a 404
16:12 <epsy> :O
16:12 <wrtlprnft> no, that was just for me
16:12 <wrtlprnft> should have bothered armabot with that, but i was too lazy :-P
16:18 <Lizmatic> epsy, if you don't get your rights back, tst won't happen? :)
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8840 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. textures/Armagetronad.ttf textures/armagetronad.sfd):
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: mathias
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merged luke-jr's new characters from the trunk. Please only add new UTF-8 chars here, they can't be used in a non-utf8 branch, anyways.
16:19 <@armabot> armagetronad: Also got rid of tons of warnings about self-intersecting glyphs and path segments with extrema != endpoints.
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16:22 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r796 Merged luke-jr's new characters from the trunk. Please only ...
16:24 <smoothice> #aawiki zonesv2
16:24 <@armabot> smoothice: No matches found. (Search took 0.47 seconds)
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16:26 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Were you able to make SPAWN_ZONE rubber?
16:26 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: yes
16:27 <PinkTomato> so you can have rubber and death zones in the same level now?
16:29 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: quick fix, just move the test for ftgl.h after the tests for freetype. or disable it.
16:29 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: rubber zones are a new type of zone, have nothing to do with death zones
16:29 <Lucifer> oh yeah, the trunk needs to let us point to a different ftgl than the sys-installed one
16:30 * Lucifer won't be able to install the new version for a little bit
16:30 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Oh, OK, I stand corrected then :)
16:30 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: I plan on creating a new DTD with them
16:34 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: my quick fix was passing configure a custom CXXFLAGS. Unless you want me to commit your quick fix I'm semi-happy now.
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16:37 <epsy> #google ubuntu bots
16:37 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.25 seconds: The official Ubuntu bots in Launchpad: <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots>; UbuntuBots - Ubuntu Wiki: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots>; New Bantracker bot commands: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2008-July/000526.html>; Regarding IRC Bots: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2007-March/000229.html>; “~tsimpson/ ubuntu - bots (2 more messages)
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16:45 <smoothice> Lucifer: Where can I find a working Zones v2 map?
16:48 <wrtlprnft> epsy: woot, zthread works again on café
16:48 <epsy> #last --with rain
16:48 <@armabot> epsy: [22:05:15] <epsy> wrtlprnft, "rain's binary" is what's in ~rain/arma-0.2.8-bzr/ ?
16:49 <wrtlprnft> smoothice: http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/ed/zones_v2/
16:49 <wrtlprnft> epsy: probably
16:50 <epsy> right O:-)
16:53 <wrtlprnft> *btest*
16:53 <wrtlprnft> hmm, konsole 4 can also do boldface now
16:54 <epsy> does it do smileys too?
16:54 <wrtlprnft> it does do luke's smileys
16:54 <epsy> haha
16:55 <wrtlprnft> honesty, i'd never use a terminal which did graphic smileys
16:55 <PinkTomato> if it does similes it must do useful characters?
17:08 <wrtlprnft> it does all chars that are in utf-8 and in my fonts
17:08 <wrtlprnft> why the hell does yum sort packets by size while downloading them?
17:12 <zmanuel> only to annoy you, and you personally, of course.
17:13 <wrtlprnft> well, i'm at 636/654 packages
17:13 <wrtlprnft> and just noticed that i'm about 1/3 done
17:14 <wrtlprnft> at least the mirror i'm using is doing 1.5MB/s
17:15 <wrtlprnft> anyways, i just wanted to know if anyone here could spontaneously come up with a good technical reason for that
17:16 <Flex> epsy, what rights do you want for the tst?
17:16 <wrtlprnft> makes you wonder what the biggest package will be, though
17:16 <Flex> not mature enought to come to the right person, you have to bother angel
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17:20 <smoothice> PinkTomato: SUCCESS!
17:26 <BabyBug> Helloooooo
17:26 <PinkTomato> Hello! BabyBug:)
17:34 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, ping!
17:34 <wrtlprnft> ?
17:34 <epsy> is the right person you?
17:34 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, you have a log from the master server?
17:34 <wrtlprnft> yeah
17:34 <wrtlprnft> from mine, anyways
17:34 <BabyBug> Could i have it please? *looks with big puppy dog eyes*
17:34 <wrtlprnft> err, i think we don't usually do that
17:35 <wrtlprnft> what do you need from it?
17:35 <BabyBug> Lucifer, told me to bother you for one...
17:35 <wrtlprnft> i do have a log, but after all it contains a line for every fifth arma player, so i don't think i'm even allowed to give it out freely
17:35 <epsy> and Flex: I need ssh access for this.
17:36 <Flex> why?
17:36 <epsy> bzr
17:36 <wrtlprnft> legally i mean
17:36 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, awww...too quote luci it's to " write some good reports"
17:36 <epsy> and mysql
17:36 <Flex> what do you need to do?
17:36 <wrtlprnft> reports on what?
17:37 <epsy> Flex, read and edit the DB, and change files
17:37 <BabyBug> OS' and whatever details it gives
17:37 <Flex> fine
17:37 <wrtlprnft> i don't have that kind of info
17:37 <BabyBug> oh ><
17:37 <wrtlprnft> afaik only the main master has that
17:37 <wrtlprnft> so bug zmanuel
17:38 <wrtlprnft> *phew*
17:38 <BabyBug> lol
17:38 <madmax> lol
17:38 <BabyBug> zmanuel, pong =P
17:43 <madmax> is there a way to increase the chat/console history?
17:44 <epsy> yes
17:44 <epsy> .cfg2 buffer
17:44 <wrtlprnft> #cfg history
17:44 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: HISTORY_SIZE_CHAT: Number of lines kept in the chat history. (default: 10) || HISTORY_SIZE_CONSOLE: Number of lines kept in the console history. (default: 10)
17:44 <wrtlprnft> :---P
17:45 <epsy> gnaaa
17:45 <madmax> thanks
17:45 <wrtlprnft> probably should be something > 10 by default
17:45 <wrtlprnft> yw
17:47 <madmax> and btw, is there something to enable the client to complete/make suggestions for partial commands? I see it does so on 0.2.8 but not on trunk
17:48 <wrtlprnft> err, should be the other way round
17:48 <epsy> chat commands?
17:48 <wrtlprnft> 0.2.8 doesn't have tab completion at all
17:48 <madmax> no, I mean when you simply enter "rubber" in the console and it suggests cycle_rubber, etc
17:49 <epsy> that should work in both
17:49 <wrtlprnft> trunk should do that
17:49 <madmax> hmm, I have a build here that doesn't
17:49 <wrtlprnft> wtf.
17:55 <madmax> it just stays silent heh: http://i42.tinypic.com/292xt3k.png
17:56 <Flex> c00l c0ckpit! :p
17:56 <wrtlprnft> there's some config option iirc
17:56 <wrtlprnft> #cfg suggest
17:56 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Sorry, no matches :S
17:56 <wrtlprnft> #cfg console
17:56 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: CONSOLE_COLUMNS: Number of characters in each line of console output (default: 78) || CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. (default: ) || CONSOLE_ROWS: Number of lines of console output without user intervention (default: 5) || CONSOLE_ROWS_MAX: Number of lines of console output when scrolling back (default: 19) || HISTORY_SIZE_CONSOLE: Number of (1 more message)
17:57 <wrtlprnft> #more
17:57 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: lines kept in the console history. (default: 10) || KEYBOARD 96 PLAYER_BIND CONSOLE_INPUT 0 : || KEYBOARD 94 PLAYER_BIND CONSOLE_INPUT 0 : || ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Message sent to clients after every round (default: )
18:00 <madmax> guess not -_-
18:01 <wrtlprnft> you don't happen to use macos?
18:02 <madmax> er, yes
18:04 <wrtlprnft> #ifdef MACOSX printErrors = false;
18:04 <wrtlprnft> #endif if (printErrors)
18:04 <madmax> lol
18:04 <wrtlprnft> // error message code comes here
18:06 <madmax> why would it be set to false here :-(
18:06 <madmax> think I'm going to change that and see if it explodes
18:07 <madmax> tConfig right?
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18:09 <wrtlprnft> yeah
18:09 <wrtlprnft> line 420 for me
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18:13 <madmax> uh, seems to work fine
18:15 <madmax> I'll tell nemo to check it out :P thanks again
18:19 <madmax> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-armagetronad-work/revision/322
18:25 <wrtlprnft> yw
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18:29 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Deaths-Grip-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
18:29 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Deaths-Grip-2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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18:52 <sinewav> Lucifer?
18:52 <ivantis2> sinewav?
18:52 <sinewav> ivantis?
18:53 * ivantis2 ?
18:53 <ct|kyle> sinewav?
18:53 <ivantis2> ct|kyle?
18:53 <ct|kyle> epsy?
18:53 <sinewav> ok, I'm making sounds for arma. will there e stereo support for game sounds in 0.3?
18:54 <epsy> you mean, like announcer sounds?
18:55 <epsy> otherwise I don't see where stereo sounds are useful
18:55 <sinewav> like, if I had a stereo explosion
18:55 <sinewav> dietron.wav
18:55 <sinewav> `you know
18:55 <epsy> I don't have a logic fopr rendering positionned stereo sounds
18:55 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""wait huh?
18:56 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""?? whats with the quotes?
18:56 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""wut is going on?
18:56 <ct|kyle> #kick ivantis2
18:56 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
18:57 <epsy> I don't know, but could you figure this out in another channel?
18:57 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""aw, this is a really unstable client
18:57 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""okay
18:57 <madmax> go to #freenode
18:58 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""im pretty sure its client related, i had a similar problem with this earlier
18:58 <ivantis2> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""hold on
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18:58 <ct|kyle> now ban :)
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18:59 <ivantis2> the quotes still there?
18:59 <ivantis2> ah good
18:59 <epsy> no
18:59 <epsy> wait, yes there are
18:59 <epsy> ct|kyle, is it just me or..?
19:00 <BabyBug> can see em here too ><
19:00 <ct|kyle> `ya i can see em
19:01 <ivantis2> oh nose
19:01 <epsy> ok can you really really fix them, but elsewhere?
19:01 <ivantis2> wot cani do?
19:02 <epsy> idk, just leave!
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19:04 <ivantis2_> oosp, accidental reboot
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19:04 <ivantis2_> is ivantis2 here?
19:04 <smoothice> yes
19:05 <ct|kyle> epsy: what is that link we need to send smoothice :P
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19:05 <ivantis2_> tmodns fails
19:05 <epsy> ct|kyle, what??
19:06 <ct|kyle> epsy: smoothice_away is now known as smoothice
19:06 <epsy> oh
19:06 <epsy> http://www.bitches-irc.net/awaymsgs.html
19:07 <epsy> #op
19:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o epsy] by armabot
19:07 -!- epsy changed the topic of #armagetron to: CAKE! | Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys
19:07 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #armagetron to: PIE! | Latest Version: 0.2.8.2.1 | http://www.armagetronad.net/ | Gentoo? layman -ka armagetron | pastebin: http://rafb.net/paste/ | Logs: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/ | Tournaments: #armagetron.tourneys
19:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [+t-o epsy] by ChanServ
19:07 <epsy> ouch
19:07 <epsy> sorry smoothice
19:07 <BabyBug> lol epsy fail
19:07 <smoothice> ?
19:07 <smoothice> huh?
19:08 <ivantis2_> huh?
19:08 <epsy> smoothice, chanserv wants to keep PIE
19:08 <smoothice> what?
19:08 <smoothice> oh
19:08 <smoothice> hmm
19:08 <smoothice> fine
19:08 <smoothice> lol
19:08 <smoothice> epsy
19:08 <smoothice> do /msg ChanServ set #armagetron GUARD ON
19:08 <ivantis2_> #alias add away http://www.bitches-irc.net/awaymsgs.html
19:08 <@armabot> ivantis2_: The operation succeeded.
19:08 <epsy> 1/ I can't do that
19:08 <smoothice> e#away
19:08 <smoothice> #away
19:09 <epsy> 2/ I don't see why I would do that
19:09 <smoothice> epsy: ok
19:09 <ivantis2_> #op
19:09 <@armabot> ivantis2_: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:09 <ivantis2_> epsy gets it, i do not? lame
19:10 <epsy> lamer than having 32 quotes in front of what you write
19:10 <ivantis2_> i at times am more mature than epsy
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19:10 <epsy> is that good?
19:10 <ivantis2_> yes
19:11 <epsy> at times?
19:11 <ivantis2_> you know what i mean
19:11 <epsy> so, never?
19:11 <BabyBug> mature people don't say "i'm more mature" xD
19:11 <ivantis2_> i guess you dont know what i mean
19:12 <epsy> is that good?
19:12 * epsy could be replaced by a chatbot
19:12 <ivantis2_> yeah, you arent mature enough to
19:12 <BabyBug> :s i thought you were a chatbot?
19:12 <ivantis2_> wait, what?
19:13 <ivantis2_> ...that just abolished my way of thinking
19:13 <epsy> ivantis2_, oh, shit, I am level 62 on maturity, how much should I have??
19:13 <ivantis2_> level 62? what scale?
19:13 <epsy> ...
19:13 <epsy> you don't know that scale? OMG LAME !!!111
19:14 <ivantis2_> no i donot
19:14 <epsy> lame
19:14 <epsy> so I guess you don't know what I mean
19:15 <sinewav> I'm mature as in "ripe"
19:15 <ivantis2_> http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/100408/anonymous-hacker-alert.gif
19:16 <ct|kyle> ivantis2_: those dam """'s
19:16 <ivantis2_> yep
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19:16 <epsy> is that picture even meant to be funny?
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19:17 <epsy> ah, well, will ask another time
19:17 <epsy> hello SageLoard
19:17 <SageLord> hiya
19:17 <ct|kyle> oi SageLord
19:17 <ct|kyle> SageLord: so do you need a server from CT?
19:18 <SageLord> i think it would be a good idea
19:18 <SageLord> instead of compguygene's server
19:18 <madmax> http://www.geenstijl.nl/archives/images/fosforgroot.jpg ouch...
19:18 <madmax> (gaza)
19:19 <SageLord> yikes
19:19 <epsy> This doesn't have HDR.
19:19 <SageLord> ct|kyle: would that be ok?
19:19 <epsy> (sorry)
19:19 <ct|kyle> SageLord: what settings?
19:19 <ct|kyle> SageLord: and who to give admin to
19:19 <SageLord> the last ladle (ladle 17?) settings
19:19 <ct|kyle> ok
19:20 <epsy> so 2v2 unconquerable :(
19:20 <SageLord> sorry :/
19:20 <SageLord> ok, so i've never really run a tournament before, who should i get for admin?
19:20 <epsy> first of all, yourself
19:20 <ct|kyle> i would say team captins
19:20 <SageLord> should i try to get someone who isn't playing? i'm not sure if anyone would be available
19:20 <ct|kyle> and you :P
19:20 <SageLord> all right
19:21 <SageLord> so we'll have x server, ct server, and pink tomatoes server
19:21 <epsy> so ladel 17 settings?
19:21 <SageLord> yessir
19:22 <epsy> then for admins i'd need GIDs
19:22 <ct|kyle> SageLord: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2, just pm me the names that get admin's
19:22 <ct|kyle> and i'll update the server binary
19:24 <SageLord> i don't actually know how to admin a server
19:24 <SageLord> lol
19:25 <Lizmatic> NOOB
19:25 <SageLord> 'tis true :/
19:26 <Flex> you do /quit to start
19:26 <Flex> ;)
19:26 <SageLord> haha
19:26 <Flex> don't be fooled by the command.. it's poor naming by the devs
19:27 <epsy> and it doesn't even exist
19:27 <SageLord> lol
19:32 <SageLord> ok
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19:32 <SageLord> so we still need to decide which servers for each match up
19:32 <arrow> hi
19:32 <SageLord> so now we have 2 euro servers and an american server
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19:33 <Flex> ah yeah sage, it's /admin quit
19:34 <SageLord> all right, thanks flex
19:34 <zmanuel> BabyBug: what do you want?
19:34 <SageLord> i think we will just randomize the servers
19:34 <SageLord> this is a test:
19:34 <Lucifer> sinewav: sounds will be positional
19:35 <SageLord> #shuffle xserv ctserv pinktserv
19:35 <@armabot> SageLord: xserv pinktserv ctserv
19:35 <Lucifer> so your sounds should be single channel :)
19:35 <SageLord> ok can someone vouch for me, if someone questions?
19:35 <SageLord> this is the real shuffle
19:35 <SageLord> get ready!
19:35 <Flex> i'm here for the record!
19:36 <SageLord> #shuffle xserv ctserv pinktserv
19:36 <@armabot> SageLord: pinktserv xserv ctserv
19:36 <SageLord> hey epsy :)
19:37 <epsy> hi
19:37 <SageLord> so about your... bracketing thing
19:37 <SageLord> :o
19:37 <epsy> yeah?
19:38 <SageLord> i have a very crude bracket made, is there a way that i can use yours?
19:38 <SageLord> you have like... a program for it?
19:38 <epsy> it parses a file and outputs a table
19:38 <SageLord> erm, i have no idea what that means
19:38 <epsy> though it's format is probably hard to understand
19:39 <SageLord> can i just send you the file?
19:39 <epsy> ok
19:39 <epsy> DCC it or whatever pleases you
19:39 <SageLord> what kind of file do i need to send?
19:39 <SageLord> DCC it?
19:39 <epsy> just a representation of the brackets
19:39 <epsy> may it be a drawing, ascii art or whatever
19:39 <SageLord> so like a text file, or jpg?
19:39 <SageLord> k
19:40 <SageLord> can i upload it here?
19:40 <epsy> DCC is the most used protocol to privately send files over IRC
19:40 <SageLord> ah, how do i do that?
19:40 <epsy> try right-clicking my name
19:40 <SageLord> nah that won't work
19:41 <epsy> /query epsy
19:41 <SageLord> :/
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19:54 <guru3> man, so many people play armagetron now
19:54 <guru3> 145 people playing now
19:54 <guru3> blows my mind
19:56 <epsy> guru3, can you put armabot on auto-op?
19:57 <guru3> eh?
19:57 <guru3> when did i allow it to be on op permanently anyway?
19:57 <guru3> -_-
19:57 <epsy> in chanserv's access list
19:57 <guru3> (i suspect i did do that)
19:57 <ct|kyle> guru3: and this is not even the popular time
19:58 <guru3> opping when necessary != oppig always
19:58 <guru3> and you can't be using it to do things like op babybug
19:58 <BabyBug> lol
19:59 <guru3> and i'm off to dinner
19:59 <guru3> bbl
20:07 <arrow> #tea
20:07 <@armabot> arrow: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:12 <Concord> we're all in cafe
20:12 <Concord> I mean ww fort
20:17 <arrow> aha ok
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20:25 <Flex> what time does it start tomorrow SageLord?
20:26 <epsy> oh yeah, times?
20:28 <Concord> 19.30 like ladle
20:28 <epsy> what about semis and finals?
20:28 <ct|kyle> 20:15 and 21:00
20:28 <ct|kyle> :P
20:28 <ct|kyle> he said just like ladle
20:30 <Flex> #cafe
20:30 <@armabot> Flex: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:34 <Concord> #tea
20:34 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r986 Merging own work. || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Even better fix for zthread detection.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Fixed zthread detection: if compilation succeeded, but runni...
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20:56 <zmanuel> Tomorrow? What's tomorrow?
20:56 * zmanuel is not up to date with tournament schedule again
20:57 <epsy> there's a brawl
20:57 <epsy> (most likely not me and flex tho)
21:00 <epsy> see the # .tourneys topic
21:01 <epsy> Fortress Brawl - Team lists <http://www.twisted-rats.co.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65> - <http://twisted-rats.co.cc/brawl>
21:03 <zmanuel> ah, that one.
21:03 <zmanuel> Also, there's no God of Clean Merges yet.
21:04 * zmanuel whould have thought some other programmer would have already made one up
21:05 <wrtlprnft> noone carrieds old versions around as long as we do
21:05 <epsy> Yet Another God of Clean Merges is far
21:05 <epsy> and it is Yet Another Yet Another- Software
21:06 <epsy> so crap, we don't want that
21:07 <wrtlprnft> #pray
21:07 <wrtlprnft> You finish your prayer
21:07 <wrtlprnft> The voice of The God Of Clean Merges booms: "Though hast angered me."
21:07 <wrtlprnft> Suddenly, a bolt of lightning strikes you!
21:07 <wrtlprnft> You fry to a crisp.
21:08 * wrtlprnft would be really disappointed if noone in here got this
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21:14 <epsy> *netsplit*
21:14 <epsy> *netsplit over*
21:15 <epsy> <wrtlprnft> oh phew, nobody read that
21:15 <epsy> :)
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21:24 <zmanuel> nethack, obviously.
21:26 * zmanuel never angered his god there, didn't want to lose protection
21:27 <luke-jr> zmanuel: whatever happened to the darcs plans? ;p
21:27 <luke-jr> IIRC, darcs was VERY good at merging
21:27 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8841 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. acinclude.m4): Manuel Moos: Merging own work.
21:29 <zmanuel> luke-jr: yes, it was. and it's very interesting in theory. but it has pathological performance problems.
21:29 <luke-jr> o
21:29 <zmanuel> and it lacks an own bzr-svn.
21:30 <luke-jr> I thought we had something that did like 4-way between Svn,Bzr,Darcs, and Arch, back some time ago
21:30 <zmanuel> yeah, but it wasn't nearly as good as bzr-svn at it.
21:30 <luke-jr> hm
21:31 <zmanuel> basically, it was just a system where a directory was managed simultaneously in two systems
21:31 <luke-jr> i c
21:31 <zmanuel> and then it'd do updates from both and commits to both.
21:31 <luke-jr> lame
21:31 <luke-jr> that's just asking for trouble
21:31 <luke-jr> maybe
21:32 <zmanuel> well, it also took care of file additions and moves and such, and commit messages.
21:32 <luke-jr> Git is getting pretty popular
21:32 <zmanuel> and bzr's merging is good enoug.
21:32 <luke-jr> bzr's merging has annoyed me ;)
21:33 <luke-jr> if you cherry-pick revisions, it's no better than Svn's
21:33 <zmanuel> how?
21:33 <zmanuel> it is if you use --weave :)
21:33 <luke-jr> which means bugfixes need to occur in the lowest common denominator
21:33 <luke-jr> hm
21:33 <luke-jr> why isn't it default?
21:33 <zmanuel> dunno.
21:34 <zmanuel> but if there's problems due to cherry-picking, it should warn you about it and suggest you use --weave.
21:34 <luke-jr> tbh, I think the biggest pro to bzr is the LP integration
21:35 <zmanuel> Actually, we're just on LP because of their bzr hosting.
21:35 <zmanuel> s/just/mainly
21:35 <luke-jr> heh
21:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Ubuntu/Tronixman-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
21:38 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r790 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8824 to 8841:...
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21:54 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: that was a brand new game… do you think i'd mess up an existing one? :-)
21:55 <wrtlprnft> how about a cvs-svn-bzr-darcs-git-arch 6-way with at least five bots merging back and forth?
21:56 <epsy> neat!
21:56 <wrtlprnft> hosted by five different people
21:56 <wrtlprnft> and if one breaks we get an rcssplit
21:56 <epsy> yeah, excellent
21:56 <wrtlprnft> and the resulting merge hell
21:57 <zmanuel> you only need one thing for that:
21:57 <zmanuel> svk
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8844 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac):
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: Added AC_LANG(C++) in places and shuffled test for ftgl header to
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: after freetype2 is detected, for those cases where ftgl doesn't add
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: freetype2's include and library settings.
21:58 <wrtlprnft> actually there should be multiple repos of every kind
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8845 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nConfig.cpp src/network/nNetwork.cpp):
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: Network strings are, for now, always latin1.
21:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: We can decide to activate utf8 network strings later if other plans fail.
21:58 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: thanks. can't test this right now, but i will
21:59 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: if we don't use utf-8 in language files and don't use utf-8 on the network, what benefit will users have?
21:59 <zmanuel> That language files CAN use them.
21:59 <wrtlprnft> heh
22:01 <epsy> speaking about language files, are we going to move to getttext?
22:01 <zmanuel> Fact is that we don't need unicode for our current main languages.
22:01 <zmanuel> polish apparently can benefit.
22:02 <zmanuel> what were the benefits of gettext again?
22:02 <epsy> mainly, when thiking right now about it, launchpad
22:02 <zmanuel> (apart from being widely used)
22:02 <epsy> meaning "anyone" could be translating stuff
22:03 <epsy> and that it doesn't seem to require much structural change, and it's easier everyday for devs
22:03 <wrtlprnft> i don't like the idea of replacing strings by their english translation
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22:04 <epsy> (though it means a wide search&replace)
22:04 <zmanuel> apparently, gettext handles that, even if stringschange a bit.
22:04 <wrtlprnft> well, what if we have multiple strings that are the same in english but different in other languages?
22:04 <epsy> or yeah, we can use gettext in our own style
22:05 <epsy> wrtlprnft, like what, for example?
22:05 <epsy> I hardly find any example
22:05 <wrtlprnft> japanese apparently has a lot of these cases
22:05 <epsy> hm
22:06 <epsy> gotta ask in #e, their lead developer lives in Japan and I think they use gettext
22:06 <wrtlprnft> i dunno, i just read that somewhere
22:07 <zmanuel> If we have many same strings meaning different things, we make them different :)
22:07 <zmanuel> I suppose gettext warns you if one translated string appears several times?
22:08 <wrtlprnft> how does it know?
22:08 <zmanuel> It appears several times in the source code in different places?
22:08 <wrtlprnft> it's just a poor function that gets called with a string as the argument
22:08 <wrtlprnft> usually bound to some intuitive name like _
22:08 <zmanuel> ah, but there's also the tool you run over the source files that generates the translation stubs.
22:09 <epsy> we're not forced to use _
22:10 <wrtlprnft> “usually”
22:11 <epsy> but kinda deprecatable
22:12 <epsy> mekius in #e says there was no problems with that
22:12 <epsy> and that if we run into this, we should chose better english strings :)
22:13 <wrtlprnft> honestly i don't care too much about translation
22:14 <epsy> but well, it's pretty easier to just type whateverblah("Boo! You're not allowed to do this!"), than 1/ having to imagine a keyword 2/ editing another file
22:15 <epsy> #eliza
22:15 <@armabot> epsy: Can you elaborate on that?
22:15 * BabyBug agrees!
22:15 <epsy> #eliza Void is empty!
22:15 <@armabot> epsy: Why do you say void is empty?
22:15 <epsy> :(
22:16 * epsy prefers the non-e liza
22:16 <PinkTomato> #eliza when will you talk about my parents?
22:16 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: tramshed, epsy
22:16 <@armabot> PinkTomato: What do you think?
22:16 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tramshed
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22:19 <ivantis2> epsy, remember when i sent you a couple texts? although i have unlimited texting, it cost me $0.20 for each outgoing to france
22:19 <ivantis2> i just got my new cell phone's bill
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22:20 <wrtlprnft> epsy: the actual script is smarter because it has memory…
22:20 <ivantis2> ..
22:20 <epsy> xchat won't reconnect :|
22:20 <ivantis2> epsy: check armalogs
22:20 <epsy> haha
22:21 <epsy> yeah, I was somehow lost during netsplit
22:21 <ivantis2> it didnt cost to receive, only for outgoing
22:21 <ivantis2> stupid cell phone companies..
22:21 <epsy> that's pretty much the normal billing for phone
22:21 <BabyBug> what phone costs you to receive? O.o
22:22 <BabyBug> as epsy said!
22:22 <epsy> #g .2 usd in €
22:22 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: PAYG US networks
22:22 <@armabot> epsy: .2 U.S. dollars = 0.15037594 €
22:22 <ivantis2> apparently i also subscribed to "love-meter"
22:22 <epsy> actually, that's cheap
22:22 <ivantis2> whatever that is
22:22 <epsy> haha, pwned
22:22 <PinkTomato> 12 pence for international Text? That is good.
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22:23 <PinkTomato> Though roaming texts are a rip off at 40pence!
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22:23 <ivantis2> lovemeter == $9.99/month for a computer to generate a random number and reply
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22:23 <PinkTomato> People spend way too much on text messaging...
22:23 <ivantis2> the number for it is close to a friend's number
22:24 <ivantis2> rly stupid
22:25 <wrtlprnft> lol, having to pay for receiving text messages would be fun
22:25 <wrtlprnft> that goes into the same category as text messages that break your phone
22:25 <epsy> wrtlprnft, actually, you can get charged for receiving MM
22:26 <BabyBug> your phone networks suck =P
22:26 * epsy is still waiting for a WiMax phone op to pop up
22:26 <epsy> my ISP has a license for doing this
22:27 <epsy> so, let's just hope, huh
22:27 <wrtlprnft> epsy: with phone calls you have a choice about receiving them, but with XMS?
22:28 <epsy> you don't
22:28 <wrtlprnft> yet another reason not to get a mms capable cell phone :-)
22:29 <wrtlprnft> hmm, maye emerge @kde wasn't such a good idea after all while being stuck on a text console
22:29 <wrtlprnft> it installs all the nearly useless stuff first
22:29 <epsy> on "blocked" contracts it will be put in queue if the user does not have enough money on his account
22:29 <epsy> dunno about others, rofl :<
22:31 <epsy> but well yeah, if you can disable MMS, disable it, heh
22:32 <epsy> if you have a phone cabable of decent MMS, sending a mail will be often better
22:32 <epsy> (esp since the user can choose to just not check it's inbox)
22:34 <wrtlprnft> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/8.png
22:34 <wrtlprnft> :-D
22:35 <BabyBug> show off!
22:35 <wrtlprnft> kde still takes forever to compile…
22:35 <wrtlprnft> stupid split packages
22:35 <wrtlprnft> s/packages/ebuilds/
22:35 <epsy> is that 8 CPUs or 8 partitions?
22:35 <BabyBug> use GNOME
22:35 <BabyBug> 8 cpu's
22:35 <wrtlprnft> epsy: :-D
22:35 <wrtlprnft> 4 cores w/ ht
22:36 <epsy> haha
22:36 <epsy> genius
22:36 <epsy> BabyBug, better yet, use e :)
22:36 <BabyBug> gnome > e
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22:37 <epsy> not really
22:37 <BabyBug> yes really
22:37 <epsy> ok
22:37 <wrtlprnft> gnome < everything. the name says it all.
22:37 <epsy> don't touch your windows borders
22:37 <epsy> now resize a window
22:37 <epsy> You can't.
22:37 <epsy> great gnome
22:38 * wrtlprnft always configures kde to do that with win+lmb
22:38 <epsy> alt + mmb
22:38 <epsy> php > echo 2.0 % 1.5;
22:38 <epsy> 0
22:38 <wrtlprnft> some graphics apps use those <alt|shift|ctrl>+<somemb> combos, so i set it to windows
22:39 <epsy> how do I avoid that :<
22:39 <wrtlprnft> plus i'd always paste stuff by accident with mmb
22:39 <BabyBug> use a real language epsy!
22:39 <epsy> mod_python ftw huh?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> meh, python gets annoying if you just use it occasionally
22:40 <wrtlprnft> whatever happened to || and &&?
22:41 <BabyBug> epsy, no, mod_python is horrible =x
22:41 <epsy> BabyBug, so, can I use python for this? no
22:41 <BabyBug> epsy, technically, yes
22:41 <wrtlprnft> CGI!
22:42 <wrtlprnft> or use php to generate an xml file with the request data and then call python with that as input
22:42 <wrtlprnft> enterprise-style
22:42 <epsy> php lag + dom lag + python lag
22:42 <epsy> w0000
22:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r799 define HAVE_FTGL_H now if single ftgl header is present (pre... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r798 Network strings are, for now, always latin1.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r797 Added AC_LANG(C++) in places and shuffled test for ftgl head...
22:43 <BabyBug> Oh yeh! *cuddles wrtlprnft* You deserve that!
22:43 <BabyBug> *cuddles zmanuel* and you!
22:43 <wrtlprnft> oh, i forgot the xslt layer in between because of course your php script and the python one use completely different formats
22:45 <wrtlprnft> woot, finally this kde build is starting to use cmake
22:45 <wrtlprnft> so i might be close to kdelibs :-)
22:47 <wrtlprnft> scratch that, it just started to compile mysql (wtf?)
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22:52 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: the selective utf8/wchar usage for ftgl seems to work fine.
22:52 <zmanuel> Can you find out how to properly check whether the used ftgl supports utf8?
22:52 <zmanuel> (after you got your GUI back, of course)
22:55 <wrtlprnft> my laptop still has a gui :-)
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8847 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/render/rFont.h):
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: With only a little bit of macros, made it possible to switch between
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: feeding FTGL utf8 or wchar strings. Triggered by existence of ftgl.h
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: header currently, which is not exactly optimal (its existence only
22:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: says a UTF8 capable FTGL was installed in the past).
22:58 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8848 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Failed check for ftgl.h is no longer fatal.
22:58 <PinkTomato> If by working, I stuck some Japanese characters in a language file, and it worked with a different font :).
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22:59 <maclover201> I have a question
23:00 <smoothice> yeah?
23:00 <maclover201> In 0.2.8 auth, how do you set up users with spaces in their name?
23:00 <maclover201> Like
23:00 <maclover201> local_user Master Chief ADMIN_PASS
23:01 <smoothice> Does it not work with quotes?
23:01 <smoothice> ""
23:01 <maclover201> I've tried putting it in quotes
23:01 <ct|kyle> master_chief
23:01 <PinkTomato> LOCAL_USER Master\_Chief Pass.
23:01 <maclover201> it doesn't work
23:01 <maclover201> ok
23:01 <ct|kyle> ya PinkTomato is right :P
23:01 <maclover201> i'll try that
23:01 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I got php working!
23:01 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Random deaths!
23:01 <PinkTomato> smoothice: yay :D
23:01 <PinkTomato> was the scripts I gave any help?
23:02 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Yeah... but I had to edit them to make them work with my setup... I spent hours trying lol
23:02 <smoothice> PinkTomato: _finally*
23:02 <ct|kyle> smoothice: you mean random rubber's
23:02 <smoothice> Right :P
23:04 <wrtlprnft> argh! wtf does FTGL do?
23:04 <smoothice> epsy: can you explain auth authorites
23:04 <maclover201> What are authentication authorities?
23:04 <maclover201> yeah
23:04 <wrtlprnft> they use a custom utf-8 iterator class that just reads beyond the end of the string
23:04 <epsy> no I can't, sorry
23:04 <smoothice> epsy: Is it possible to create your own instead of use forums and CT?
23:04 <smoothice> using*
23:04 <epsy> you can always use @x
23:05 <PinkTomato> smoothice: yes, the source is somewhere
23:05 <smoothice> Do you have to modify the src
23:05 <smoothice> To use more than forums and ct
23:05 <PinkTomato> Nope
23:05 <epsy> and there's even a beta nobody tested
23:05 <ct|kyle> you can even @durkadurkland.com
23:05 <epsy> #google armagetron http-auth-server beta
23:05 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.80 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - http-auth-server 0.1_beta1: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=199980>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - http-auth-server 0.1_beta1: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18777>; “Stuff to run a full-featured auth server” branch in Launchpad: <https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad- (2 more messages)
23:05 <epsy> first link
23:06 <maclover201> ok
23:06 <PinkTomato> smoothice: you need to be an open authority to get a shorthand name, and be on good terms with guru3 :)
23:06 <PinkTomato> though why replace @forums?
23:06 <smoothice> I don't know
23:06 <smoothice> lol
23:06 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
23:06 * BabyBug doesn't see the point in different authorities at all..
23:07 <epsy> replace @forums?
23:07 <BabyBug> Why not just have 1?
23:07 <ct|kyle> or just have @smootharma.ath.cx
23:07 <wrtlprnft> BabyBug: redundancy?
23:07 <epsy> BabyBug, power-hungry jerk!
23:07 <smoothice> so
23:07 <smoothice> It can be run
23:07 <PinkTomato> epsy: I meant, @forums works fine enough :)
23:07 <smoothice> as long as http-auth is running?
23:07 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, hmm? explain =)
23:07 <wrtlprnft> there should be just one authority, and it should belong to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
23:07 <PinkTomato> smoothice: afaik it is a php file
23:07 <PinkTomato> and interacts on a webserver?
23:08 <epsy> it's a php script
23:08 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: then CT's works since you can access that :P
23:09 <wrtlprnft> it doesn't have to be a php script
23:09 <wrtlprnft> you can write it in lisp if you feel like it
23:09 <epsy> http-auth-serv IS a php script >:)
23:10 <wrtlprnft> yeah, true
23:10 <PinkTomato> could you implement it into a website?
23:10 <maclover201> the Master\_Chief thing didn't work :(
23:10 <PinkTomato> try /login Master\_Cheif@
23:10 <maclover201> ok
23:11 <epsy> PinkTomato, as long as you have php...
23:11 <PinkTomato> In fact it might be easier to just be MasterChief :)
23:11 <maclover201> ok
23:11 <maclover201> lol
23:11 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: in theory… if i find out to what host to connect to under what name :-)
23:12 <PinkTomato> epsy: I mean, could you login using a global_id to armagetron related site without harming the security of the system?
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23:12 <epsy> no
23:12 <ivantis2> oh man oh man oh man
23:13 <PinkTomato> ah,
23:13 <PinkTomato> what if you used javascript
23:13 <ivantis2> dude, has anyone here had salmonella poisoning?
23:13 <PinkTomato> ?
23:13 <guru3> actually, i've been meaning to replace @forums
23:13 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit ["Over and out."]
23:13 <epsy> whatever you do, you will always harm security
23:13 <guru3> sigh
23:13 <ct|kyle> ivantis2: i'm allergic to it :P
23:13 <epsy> so really I hardly see a point in your question
23:13 <PinkTomato> OK epsy :)
23:13 <ivantis2> i ate some peanut-butter yesterday that was included in a recall because of salmonella poisoning
23:13 <ivantis2> already like 300 people are sick
23:14 <ivantis2> !!!!
23:14 <PinkTomato> and your not?
23:14 <ct|kyle> i'm allergic to that :)
23:14 <ivantis2> not yet
23:14 <ivantis2> how long would it take?
23:14 <PinkTomato> No,
23:14 * epsy feels BabyBug's going to be like "Yay ivantis2's gonna die!!!!!111"
23:14 <PinkTomato> if they already are sick
23:14 <PinkTomato> and your not
23:14 <PinkTomato> then
23:14 <epsy> you'RE
23:14 <PinkTomato> you are likely to not be sick
23:14 <ivantis2> die? no one has died yet
23:15 <BabyBug> Can you be the first? =)
23:15 <ct|kyle> you could always be the first :)
23:15 <ivantis2> yet
23:15 <ivantis2> it could be me!
23:15 <ct|kyle> lol BabyBug
23:15 <PinkTomato> sorry epsy ;)
23:15 <PinkTomato> guru3: what would you replace @forums with?
23:15 <BabyBug> and take flex down with you ivantis2!
23:15 <ct|kyle> ivantis2: and BabyBug with you as well :D
23:16 <ivantis2> well, i feel fine. would i be throwing up or anything yet?
23:16 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i know you have a crush on me really...you're just saying that cause i won't hug ya! =P
23:16 <ct|kyle> #google salmonella poisoning Wikipedia
23:16 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.25 seconds: Salmonellosis - Wikipedia , the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonellosis>; Foodborne illness - Wikipedia , the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foodborne_illness>; BioPortfolio - Salmonella Food Poisoning: <http://www.bioportfolio.com/indepth/Salmonella_Food_Poisoning.html>; Salmonella Poisoning - Zimbio: (3 more messages)
23:16 <epsy> if you throw up it's best
23:16 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Nope
23:16 <epsy> otherwise, see you :o)
23:17 <guru3> PinkTomato: himitsu
23:18 <PinkTomato> secret?
23:18 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i just pretend to have a crush on you in hopes of sneaking a cuddle out of you :P
23:18 <smoothice> how do I give my forums account admin privileges on a server?
23:18 <guru3> no, it is a secret
23:18 <ivantis2> where is everyone?
23:18 <ivantis2> am i dead?
23:18 <smoothice> What do I put in the config?
23:18 <BabyBug> lol sure sure ct|kyle :P
23:18 <epsy> smoothice, user_level
23:18 <PinkTomato> guru3: I will wait then :)
23:19 <BabyBug> Wow is so addictive =(
23:19 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: i probably can't hijack ct without someone stopping me eventually
23:19 <guru3> i'm waiting for the next revision of the protocol or some such for the web interface stuff
23:19 <guru3> orwhatever
23:19 <MaZuffeR> BabyBug, http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8026/1232159594139yw2.jpg
23:19 <smoothice> epsy: thanks
23:20 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: it would be too much work :P
23:20 <BabyBug> MaZuffeR, haha
23:21 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: even as root you're still a bit helpless inside a vm
23:21 <epsy> guru3, whatareyoutalkingabout?
23:21 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: and you don't even have root to everything
23:21 <guru3> i forget the name
23:21 <wrtlprnft> i have root to the host with the forums
23:21 <guru3> but a way to use aauth on websites
23:22 <epsy> web-auth with (AA)GID
23:22 <guru3> yeah
23:22 <wrtlprnft> mathias@colin $ ssh root@crazy-tronners.com ~/armagetronad3/ftgl-2.1.3~rc5
23:22 <wrtlprnft> Last login: Mon Sep 8 16:27:43 2008 from stgt-5d833e1f.pool.einsundeins.de
23:22 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: :-D
23:22 <epsy> so that was a cough to my direction? :)
23:23 <guru3> not particularly, i'm in no rush
23:23 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: ah
23:23 <epsy> the current "protocol" sucks
23:23 <epsy> mainly because there's no protocol
23:23 <BabyBug> design one =) =P
23:23 <epsy> #aawikis aagid 2
23:24 <epsy> boo
23:24 <BabyBug> it's wiki
23:24 <BabyBug> not wikis
23:24 <BabyBug> #aawiki aagid 2
23:24 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.49 seconds: Match coordinator module - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module>
23:24 <epsy> wiki SEARCH
23:24 <epsy> #aawikis aagid v2
23:24 <epsy> #aawiki aagid v2
23:24 <@armabot> epsy: No matches found. (Search took 0.49 seconds)
23:24 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: i just su into it :)
23:24 <epsy> blah, it's probably linked from .... somewhere
23:24 <BabyBug> fail
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23:25 <epsy> #aawiki aagid
23:25 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.40 seconds: Match coordinator module - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module>
23:25 <epsy> #google site http://wiki.armagetronad.net aagid
23:25 <@armabot> epsy: No matches found. (Search took 0.62 seconds)
23:25 <epsy> #google site:http://wiki.armagetronad.net aagid
23:25 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.41 seconds: Match coordinator module - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module>
23:25 <epsy> :<
23:26 <epsy> well anyway it doesnt define anything yet
23:27 <epsy> but well, one big change I'm planning is also having the choice between more authentication schemes
23:27 <epsy> (so you could auth using RSA, for example)
23:27 <ivantis2> huh?
23:27 <ivantis2> no one cares about my possible illness?
23:27 <epsy> BabyBug:
23:27 <ivantis2> feh..
23:27 <BabyBug> oooo i see
23:27 <epsy> yeah, we are all lame
23:28 <epsy> and for god's sake .. standardized output§
23:28 <epsy> add some !!!!!!!!!!!111 to that
23:28 <ivantis2> ???
23:28 <ivantis2> l
23:28 <Lizmatic> I WANT MAH BLACKBERRY
23:28 <Lizmatic> NAU
23:28 <Lizmatic> NOT TOMORROW
23:28 <Lizmatic> NAU
23:29 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, ordered a blackberry?
23:29 <Lizmatic> YES
23:29 <epsy> use osx's timeshifting aircraft
23:29 <Lizmatic> yes* cough
23:29 <epsy> Lizmatic, no, she is planning on stealing one tomorrow
23:29 <ivantis2> you really should have gotten a G1
23:29 <epsy> ivantis2, *
23:29 <Lizmatic> G1? whats that
23:29 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1176218160.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
23:29 <nsh22> hey all
23:29 <epsy> it's an ugly phone with a great unfinished OS
23:29 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: expensive google phone
23:29 <ivantis2> BlackBerry == Microsoft, Android == Linux, iPhone == Apple
23:30 <Lizmatic> google phone? pff :P
23:30 <ivantis2> it runs Android OS
23:30 <PinkTomato> you type restart and it restarts
23:30 <Lizmatic> I had an old blackberry.. now ordered the blackberry bold
23:30 <Lizmatic> its sweeet
23:30 <PinkTomato> in a text message might i add
23:30 <epsy> BlackBerry = MS ? LOL ??
23:30 <ivantis2> no i have one, its great
23:30 <epsy> they have their own OS, dude
23:30 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #armagetron
23:30 <ivantis2> uh yes
23:30 <ivantis2> MS made the blackberry i believe
23:30 <epsy> ...
23:30 <epsy> shut up
23:30 <maclover201> heh
23:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/Spiral-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
23:30 <ivantis2> isnt it somehow related to WindowsMobile?
23:30 <ivantis2> yes
23:31 <Lizmatic> i luv bwackbewwies
23:31 <ct|kyle> #bzr
23:31 <@armabot> bzr co lp:armagetronad (for trunk) bzr co lp:armagetronad/0.2.8 (for 0.2.8) bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.3.1 (bzr >= 1.4)
23:31 <epsy> not a bit
23:31 <ivantis2> while speaking about phones, anyone here heard of the Gmote?
23:31 <epsy> it's android on a wiimote
23:31 <ivantis2> great app for android
23:31 <ivantis2> to control computer
23:31 <ivantis2> through internet
23:31 <Lizmatic> gmote?
23:32 <Lizmatic> that reminds me of the wiimote
23:32 <Lizmatic> or the apple mote!
23:32 <ivantis2> it has a really cool feature: touchpad
23:32 <Lizmatic> *has got an applemote*
23:32 <epsy> through internet .. that's neat when you have wifi and bluetooth for free
23:32 <Lizmatic> touchpad SUCKS
23:32 <Lizmatic> god I hate touch screens and touch crap
23:32 <ivantis2> the screen turns into your laptop's touchpad
23:32 <ivantis2> its really really cool
23:32 <ivantis2> for me
23:32 * Lizmatic barfs
23:32 <Lizmatic> I had a samsung onmia
23:32 <ivantis2> because i just broke my mouse
23:32 <Lizmatic> tip: dont buy it.
23:32 <ivantis2> it aint workin
23:33 <epsy> NEVER buy from samsung lol
23:33 <epsy> they take easy things
23:33 <epsy> do .. I wonder what
23:33 -!- Durka_ [n=Durka@cpe-76-173-122-30.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
23:33 <epsy> and the make up something impossible to use
23:33 <epsy> in the way nobody would have ever thought of
23:34 <Lizmatic> its seriously impossible to use, that touch screen on onmia
23:34 <ivantis2> wow
23:34 -!- Durka_ is now known as Durka
23:34 <ct|kyle> omg Durka_ is here
23:34 <ivantis2> looking at my t-mobile bill, i have sent 896 texts, received 737
23:34 <epsy> I once got asked by some lady to find a contact in a tactile samsung phone..
23:34 <Lizmatic> what would you say are good phones, epsy?
23:34 <ivantis2> this month
23:34 <epsy> I made it to "search contacts"
23:34 <Lizmatic> I've always liked nokias
23:35 <epsy> then got lost
23:35 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, if i were epsy, i would say "G1s!"
23:35 <epsy> nokias here as well
23:35 <nsh22> lol ivantis, heard of the girl that sent 14000+ texts a month?
23:35 <nsh22> she feigns
23:35 <ivantis2> nsh22, did they charge her more for that many?
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23:35 <epsy> ivantis2, if I see a nice-looking android phone not-too-expensive I'd buy it
23:35 <epsy> ivantis2, now that's ugly and super-expensive
23:36 <epsy> Lizmatic, sony ericson has a good firmware, but they are bitchy with cables
23:36 <ivantis2> ugly?
23:36 <epsy> so no
23:36 <ivantis2> one thing i love about my G1: barcode scanner
23:36 <ivantis2> GPS
23:36 <epsy> weeeeeee you can work in a shop now
23:37 <ivantis2> unlimited internet usage
23:37 <epsy> that's not the phone; that's the contract
23:37 <ivantis2> epsy, no its to compare the price of the item. it shows lower prices in stores in your area
23:37 <epsy> and unlimited internet is generally hyper-expensive as well
23:37 <PinkTomato> smoothice: what did you put in the nameserver prefix box?
23:37 <ivantis2> my plan is around $70 a month
23:38 <epsy> the G1 isn't even sold in france..
23:38 <Lizmatic> I have a contract of 41 euros a month now
23:38 <Lizmatic> all inclusive internet crap etc..
23:38 <epsy> #g usd 70 in €
23:38 <@armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:38 <epsy> #g 70 usd in €
23:38 <@armabot> epsy: 70 U.S. dollars = 52.6315789 €
23:38 <ivantis2> epsy, they made an Android phone for Australia, im sure you will get something for france sometime soon
23:38 <epsy> bs, that's ... like ...
23:39 <ivantis2> i may have convinced f00li5h from #perl to buy one, he lives in Au
23:39 <epsy> I wouldn't even consider that lol
23:39 <epsy> ivantis2, there will
23:39 <Lizmatic> pic of G1
23:39 <Lizmatic> linnnnk
23:39 <epsy> #google android g1
23:39 <@armabot> epsy: Search took 0.20 seconds: Android G1 - T-Mobile Google Phone: <http://www.androidg1.org/>; The new T-Mobile G1 with Google cell phone – Official Site: <http://www.t-mobileg1.com/>; FAQ: What the Android G1 phone will do for you: <http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9115375>; Almost Human: a review of Google's Android G1 phone: Page 1: (3 more messages)
23:39 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, watch the homepage video on the second link
23:40 <Lizmatic> http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/tracyandmatts_blog/windowslivewriter/512daccbc1f0_6667/htc_dream_photoshop1-1-_2.jpg ?
23:40 <Lizmatic> thats it?
23:40 <ivantis2> http://www.t-mobileg1.com/
23:40 <PinkTomato> It is with T-Mobile?
23:40 <ivantis2> watch the video there
23:40 <PinkTomato> I hate that network ...
23:40 <epsy> http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSPEK8408320090109
23:40 <Lizmatic> watching
23:40 <PinkTomato> I think they have changed though
23:40 <ivantis2> PinkTomato, you could buy a developers phone from Google and use with any other provider
23:41 <Lizmatic> it looks fugly tbh :(
23:41 <epsy> if I could buy that ..
23:41 <ivantis2> you would
23:41 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: the postage costs about the same as the phone
23:41 * epsy lives in a t-mobile-free region of the world :-))
23:41 <Lizmatic> t-mobile is pretty shyt as well
23:41 <ivantis2> it is such a good phone!
23:42 <Lizmatic> but ugly
23:42 <Lizmatic> and fat
23:42 <epsy> PinkTomato, that's same for pretty much every phone out there
23:42 <luke-jr> In my experience, everyone seems to have crappy coverage where Sprint is win.
23:42 <Lizmatic> would you take that to bed? I wouldn't
23:42 <PinkTomato> how much is the developer phone?
23:42 <epsy> Lizmatic, http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSPEK8408320090109
23:42 <ivantis2> luke-jr, what kind of phone do you have right now?
23:42 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: i don't think i have direct access to any user on that server other than root
23:42 <wrtlprnft> so i usually go the other way
23:42 <wrtlprnft> ssh and immediately su to the right user
23:42 <luke-jr> ivantis2: dunno, some Samsung thing I think
23:42 <epsy> lol!
23:42 <luke-jr> it's 4 or 5 years old
23:43 <luke-jr> antenna fell off
23:43 <ivantis2> 4 or 5 years?
23:43 <PinkTomato> ++ for luke-jr
23:43 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: it is on the forums :P
23:43 <epsy> is it usable?
23:43 <luke-jr> epsy: yeah, works better than most people's I know
23:43 <PinkTomato> reliases that mobiles haven't changed at all in the last few years and any more is a waste
23:43 <ivantis2> ha, antenna? my moms old phone when i was a small child had an antenna, i chewed it off
23:43 <epsy> samsung recently gave up with their home-brew firmware, they move to windows mobile lol
23:44 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: wrong
23:44 <PinkTomato> my hash key is broken on my mobile
23:44 <epsy> and tbh, that's a good move if you ask me
23:44 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: mobiles != phones
23:44 <luke-jr> OQO2 is the Right Direction (TM)
23:44 <PinkTomato> ??
23:44 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, if you find a "feature" that you hate on the home screen or other key part of the blackberry, could you modify the source code and make it better?
23:44 <ivantis2> Nooo!
23:45 <PinkTomato> What do you define as a Mobile Phone then?
23:45 <Lizmatic> I can
23:45 <Lizmatic> ..
23:45 <Lizmatic> I can't modify anything&
23:45 <Lizmatic> *
23:45 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r801 Failed check for ftgl.h is no longer fatal.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r800 With only a little bit of macros, made it possible to switch...
23:45 <epsy> because Lizmatic understands whatever android is coded with
23:45 <Lizmatic> lol
23:45 <ivantis2> all the key apps of android are open source
23:45 -!- emmy_arma [n=peiaeman@pc238035.static.is.airbites.ro] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:46 <epsy> I am already convinced about android
23:46 <Lizmatic> you guys look at way different stuff in a phone than I do
23:46 <ivantis2> what is your convincion?
23:46 <luke-jr> ivantis2: FAIL
23:46 <luke-jr> OpenMoko is *supposely* 100% open source
23:46 <epsy> it's great
23:46 <ivantis2> luke-jr, how i fail?
23:46 <epsy> now the G1 sucks
23:46 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, IRC client for blackberry?
23:47 <epsy> if that lenovo phone I linked earlier was available in france, I'd buy it
23:47 <Lizmatic> ivantis2, i can go on irc on a blackberry? cool
23:47 <ivantis2> Lizmatic, im askng if there is one
23:48 <epsy> mibbit?
23:48 <ct|kyle> since G1 sucks then ivantis2 must also suck
23:48 <ivantis2> mibbit sucks on mobile devices, it is dependant on a nice dimensions of a screen
23:48 <epsy> hrm
23:48 <ivantis2> i have androidirc
23:49 <epsy> well, most have zoom-based browsers now
23:49 <PinkTomato> #google blackberry irc
23:49 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Search took 0.17 seconds: IRC and Instant Messaging on a BlackBerry | corey gilmore's blog: <http://coreygilmore.com/blog/2007/06/20/irc-and-instant-messaging-on-a-blackberry/>; Free IRC Client For The Blackberry | BlackBerry Cool: <http://www.blackberrycool.com/2005/03/free-irc-client-for-the-blackberry/>; Whats a good Irc ? I tried to dl, jmirc, virca, and wlirc and none ...: (3 more messages)
23:49 <ct|kyle> epsy: are you seeing those quotes again
23:49 <epsy> yeah, he really wont fix them
23:49 <ivantis2> epsy, no it reads the dimensions of the devices screen, i tried, it fails
23:49 <nsh22> hey ummm, if i want to be able to switch maps and have difernt settins for each map, do i nee dto include them in the map file itself
23:50 <epsy> how does it read a vitrual screen's resolution??
23:50 <ivantis2> idk
23:50 <ivantis2> i didnt write it
23:50 <epsy> a screen which resized permanently
23:50 <epsy> then the browser is fuckt
23:50 <ivantis2> also, it doesnt have gmote
23:50 <luke-jr> 1 hour netsplit⁉
23:50 <ivantis2> so fail
23:51 -!- maclover201 [n=chatzill@75-166-10-118.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:51 <epsy> there's a bluetooth equivelent to this included with any bluetooth-capable nokia
23:51 <ivantis2> luke-jr, yes and it matches this way: servers->*->usersInclude("luke-jr")
23:52 <nsh22> is this server affected by the shutdown?
23:52 -!- AshitakA [n=AshitakA@pD9E01B7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["...draws the curtains...So long!"]
23:52 <ivantis2> this server? we are on different servers most likely
23:52 <epsy> oh, they said they would mess stuff up right?
23:52 -!- ivantis2_ [n=Android@m4a0e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
23:53 <ivantis2_> i dont want to miss anything
23:53 -!- BabyBug [n=BabyBug@87.112.234.101] has joined #armagetron
23:53 <epsy> you just did
23:53 <ivantis2> like what?
23:53 <nsh22> lol
23:53 <ivantis2_> ??
23:54 <epsy> cheater
23:54 <ivantis2_> ok fine
23:54 -!- ivantis2_ [n=Android@m4a0e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Client Quit]
23:54 <Lizmatic> BabyBug <3
23:54 <BabyBug> Lizmatic <3
23:55 <ivantis2> also on my G1 i can stay signed in to AIM/Yahoo/Google talk
23:55 <Durka> Lizmatic </3
23:55 <Lizmatic> Durka o/
23:55 <Durka> :)
23:55 <epsy> PinkTomato, they should have sent it
23:55 <nsh22> errm...noob question :to rotate my maps, i need to download something corrct?
23:55 <PinkTomato> epsy: I have got it thank you :)
23:55 <epsy> wanna play? :P
23:56 <PinkTomato> epsy: need to reboot ! :D
23:56 <PinkTomato> and install..
23:56 <epsy> same here haha
23:56 <PinkTomato> How big is the download ?
23:56 <ivantis2> also on my G1 i can scare people into thinking there is a ghost mouse in the house!
23:56 <epsy> well, the boring download isn't any longer than 2 minutes
23:56 <ivantis2> with the Gmote
23:56 <ivantis2> :P
23:56 <PinkTomato> epsy: but your in france
23:57 <PinkTomato> you have fibre :P
23:57 <zmanuel> nsh22: you either need a scropt or version 0.3 or later.
23:57 <epsy> no I don't
23:57 <epsy> well I have, but I can't connect on it
23:57 <nsh22> script, like..... addming it to the source?
23:57 <PinkTomato> epsy: aw :(
23:57 <epsy> and it lets you set your config up, and sets you on a practice match while the rest downloads
23:57 <zmanuel> no, script like feeding input to the server
23:57 <PinkTomato> epsy: that's pretty neat
23:57 <epsy> er, shit, I guess that's covered by NDA lol
23:57 <nsh22> is it dificult to do?
23:58 <zmanuel> or changing everytime.cfg every round (which is easier with the ct modifications to the source)
23:58 <luke-jr> #weather 68127
23:58 <@armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in 78th Ave. & Seymour, Ralston, Nebraska is 37.2°F (4:50 PM CST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016.1 hPa (Rising).
23:58 <epsy> ct directly sends stuff to stdin AFAIK
23:58 <zmanuel> with 0.3, no.
23:58 <ivantis2> man i have a zit on my nose which has been bugging me all day
23:58 <nsh22> could someone who knows nothing about programming do it?
23:58 <zmanuel> check Xdemonic's posts on the forums, he recently had the same problems.
23:58 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
23:58 <PinkTomato> how do we enable 32 players?
23:58 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 46.0°F (4:58 PM CST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 42.8°F. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Rising).
23:59 <PinkTomato> CXXFlags dosen't work now :)?
23:59 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
23:59 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 12.0°F (5:59 PM EST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -2.2°F. Windchill: 5.0°F. Pressure: 29.06 in 984.0 hPa (Falling).
23:59 <epsy> should be enabled by default on dedicated builds
23:59 <nsh22> i win
23:59 <nsh22> could someone who knows nothing about programming do it?
23:59 <PinkTomato> OK ty epsy :)
23:59 <epsy> and it has a configure switch
23:59 <zmanuel> yes.
23:59 <nsh22> kk
23:59 <nsh22> ill check the forums......
23:59 * epsy has an urge to play
23:59 <epsy> @tea
Log from 2009-01-18:
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00:00 <epsy> #tea
00:00 <@armabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:00 -!- MaZuffeR [n=mazuffer@darkmoor.sby.abo.fi] has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
00:00 <ivantis2> again on the G1 vs BlackBerry debate: would you rather use Windows or a slightly unfinished Linux distro?
00:00 <epsy> blackberry doesnt use windows
00:01 <nsh22> ok so all i put in is MAP_ROTATION?
00:01 <nsh22> ant all that stuff
00:01 <nsh22> and*
00:01 <smoothice> hi nsh22
00:01 <nsh22> hi smooth
00:01 <ivantis2> im pretty sure blackberry is made by microsoft
00:01 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: does not matter who it is made by
00:01 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: it is how it was made
00:01 <nsh22> smooth do you know how to use a map rotator?
00:01 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: and if it works well enough
00:02 <epsy> ivantis2, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_OS
00:02 <epsy> and if it was done by microsoft it would just suck
00:02 <Durka> smoothice: hey
00:02 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"]
00:03 <ivantis2> well, the blackberry doesnt look all that bad, its just the G1 is still better
00:04 <ivantis2> yeah it isnt made by microsoft
00:04 <ivantis2> i guess
00:04 <nsh22> smoothice: do you know how to use a map rotator?
00:04 <ivantis2> aw, im still banned from ##mac
00:04 <nsh22> why u get banned?
00:05 -!- epsy [i=52e34148@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c61735b152f3ba24] has joined #armagetron
00:05 <ivantis2> ivantis3... stupid bot
00:05 <nsh22> lol
00:05 <ivantis2> ivantis3: please leave
00:05 <ivantis2> now
00:05 -!- Durka is now known as ivantis4
00:05 <ivantis4> o_O
00:05 <ivantis2> ivantis3: part
00:05 <ivantis3> Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
00:05 -!- ivantis4 is now known as Durka
00:05 <ivantis2> you suck!!!!!!
00:05 <ivantis2> grr i hate that botr
00:05 <BabyBug> #kick ivantis3 job done
00:05 -!- ivantis3 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "job done"]
00:05 <nsh22> lol
00:06 <ivantis2> thank you BabyBug
00:06 <PinkTomato> A bot is not just for christmas.
00:06 <nsh22> if you hate it, why did u make it?
00:06 <ivantis2> BabyBug, could you please ban it as well?
00:06 <ct|kyle> ivantis_ part you n00b
00:06 <ivantis2> nsh22, its out of control! its like it has a mind of its own
00:06 <BabyBug> ivantis2, i don't have that authority =P
00:06 <ivantis2> BabyBug, cant you +o babybug?
00:06 <BabyBug> Nope
00:06 <ivantis2> lame
00:06 <ct|kyle> #op BabyBug
00:07 <BabyBug> don't think so...
00:07 <BabyBug> #top
00:07 <BabyBug> #op
00:07 <smoothice> nsh22: yes
00:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o BabyBug] by armabot
00:07 <ct|kyle> lol
00:07 <@BabyBug> oh i can
00:07 <Lucifer> ivantis2: your inability to get a handle on your bot is causing problems
00:07 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o BabyBug] by BabyBug
00:07 <BabyBug> i never knew that O.o
00:07 <epsy> haha
00:07 <Lucifer> ivantis2: YOU need to fix your problem
00:07 <nsh22> will lucifers map rotator work on luke jrs servers?
00:07 * ct|kyle runs
00:07 <ivantis2> Lucifer, yes i do
00:07 <BabyBug> ivantis2, it's not that hard to change a config file..
00:07 <Lucifer> ivantis2: So quit asking other people to take care of it for you
00:07 <ivantis2> BabyBug, yes, it is that hard
00:07 <Lucifer> it's not that hard to kill a process
00:07 * epsy hesitates
00:08 <Lucifer> test it in your own private chatroom before bringing it here
00:08 <ivantis2> have you ever tried to edit a supybot config????
00:08 <Lucifer> YES
00:08 <epsy> watching ivantis being pwned or playing QL?
00:08 <ct|kyle> ivantis_ and ivantis2 1 of you 2 leave
00:08 <ivantis2> it is very obnoxiously hard
00:08 <Lucifer> WHO THE FUCK SET UP ARMABOT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
00:08 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft took over armabot from me :)
00:08 <ivantis2> uh wrtlprnft im thinking
00:08 <ivantis2> oh you
00:08 <BabyBug> Lucifer, So you can't read caps but you can write them? =P
00:08 <Lucifer> so fix your fucking bot, or take it the hell out of here
00:08 <ct|kyle> #r
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00:08 <Lucifer> and quit whining
00:08 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
00:08 <ivantis2> well, when i try to edit the conf, it changes!
00:08 * epsy is missing the windows command
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00:08 <ct|kyle> heh
00:09 <ivantis2> something is very wrong with the configuration system
00:09 <Lucifer> did you try READING the FINE manual?
00:09 <ivantis2> manual?
00:09 <Lucifer> it's a wonderful configuration system
00:09 <Lucifer> yes, there's excellent docs for supybot
00:09 <ivantis2> oh i am allergic to man pages
00:09 <ivantis2> i get a rash
00:09 <Lucifer> #kickban ivantis2 I'm allergic to idiots
00:09 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: -.-
00:09 <epsy> Lucifer: EXCELL~1 !!
00:09 <nsh22> then take some penadryl and get over it
00:09 <Lucifer> #kban ivantis2 I'm allergic to idiots
00:09 -!- mode/#armagetron [+b *!n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] by armabot
00:09 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "I'm allergic to idiots"]
00:09 <nsh22> benadryl*
00:09 <Lucifer> #kban ivantis3 I'm allergic to idiots
00:09 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: ivantis3 is not in #armagetron.
00:09 <Lucifer> #kban ivantis_ I'm allergic to idiots
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00:10 <epsy> lol
00:10 <nsh22> lol
00:10 <epsy> how many users we lost now?
00:10 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you seem tense...
00:10 <Lucifer> heh
00:10 <Lucifer> annoyed with ivantis
00:10 <Lucifer> you know, he's in dating range for my daughter
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00:10 <nsh22> apparently
00:11 <epsy> kicking 4 times the same person can be annoying
00:11 <Lucifer> my daughter's 10, ivantis is like 13/14
00:11 <epsy> LOL
00:11 <Lucifer> of course, if he ever dated my daughter, I'd rip his balls off
00:11 <smoothice> nsh22: still need help?
00:11 <nsh22> lol
00:11 <nsh22> smoothice with the map rotator, yes
00:11 <epsy> if you are under 14 your dating range has min > max
00:11 <epsy> at 14 min + max
00:11 <smoothice> nsh22: Are you using 0.3 server?
00:12 <smoothice> nsh22: or 0.2.8?
00:12 <nsh22> smoothice no, 0.2.8
00:12 <epsy> well, considering the xkcd algorythm
00:12 <epsy> * at 14 min = max
00:12 * epsy wants xmodmap for windows
00:12 <PinkTomato> #r
00:12 <@armabot> PinkTomato: *click*
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00:13 <Lucifer> epsy: that's true, but irrelevant
00:13 <Lucifer> ummm, social pressures being what they are
00:13 <Lucifer> they won't actually be old enough to date each other until *she's* 14
00:13 <epsy> if I was 14 I wouldn't date a 10 yo girl :|
00:13 <Lucifer> because then they'll be in high school at the same time
00:13 <epsy> yes
00:13 <Lucifer> exactly :)
00:13 <Lizmatic> you're straight epsy? :p
00:13 <epsy> lol
00:13 <Lucifer> but when she's 20, he'll be 24, and that's perfectly reasonable, unless one of them is ivantis
00:14 <nsh22> haha
00:14 <epsy> what if it is ivantis2 or ivanbot?
00:14 <nsh22> hahaha
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00:14 <epsy> PinkTomato: wings are blowing?
00:14 <nsh22> lol
00:14 <ivantis2> before i go: dating your daughter? how would that work?
00:15 <ivantis2> i dont live where you live
00:15 <nsh22> it doesnt
00:15 * epsy does
00:15 <epsy> Launchpad does
00:15 <Lizmatic> whats your daughters age Lucifer?
00:15 <Lizmatic> BabyBug might go after her
00:15 <PinkTomato> epsy: wings blowing? hehe :D
00:15 <Lucifer> [17:11] <Lucifer> my daughter's 10, ivantis is like 13/14
00:15 <nsh22> haha
00:15 <Lizmatic> Score, go for it BB!
00:15 <BabyBug> Lizmatic..............
00:15 <Lizmatic> lmao
00:15 <epsy> yeah, you know wing blows
00:15 <ivantis2> im 14
00:15 <Lizmatic> Just hope to tease you enough so I get a spanking
00:15 <PinkTomato> epsy: xD
00:15 <nsh22> o0
00:16 <epsy> PinkTomato: are you? :P
00:16 <epsy> stupid crappy smileys
00:16 <PinkTomato> In windows yep :)
00:16 <ivantis2> Lucifer: doont worry. i dont think i live near you
00:16 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, you're gonna get a spanking anyway for leaving me on wow! =P
00:16 * nsh22 is listening to classical music
00:16 * PinkTomato overuses smileys
00:16 <Lizmatic> BabyBug, get a life you addict! WoW is taking you over
00:16 <epsy> I mean the graphical smileys
00:17 <ivantis2> WoW? you gave up arma for WoW?
00:17 <smoothice> ct
00:17 <smoothice> ct|kyle: done
00:17 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ?
00:17 <BabyBug> correct Lizmatic, you're taking me over =P
00:17 <BabyBug> correction*
00:17 <nsh22> lol
00:17 <ivantis2> thats like giving up cigarettes for alcohol
00:17 <BabyBug> I would be quite happy for all smokers to give it up for alcohol instead
00:18 <nsh22> alcohol is good in moderation, cigarettes are bad anytime
00:18 <ivantis2> okay switch them then
00:18 * nsh22 switches them all
00:18 <nsh22> now the brewarys are god
00:18 <ivantis2> like giving up alcohol for cigarettes
00:18 <epsy> #shuffle thats like giving up cigarettes for alcohol
00:18 <@armabot> epsy: giving thats for alcohol cigarettes like up
00:19 <smoothice> #shuffle Walking down a street in the dark is dangerous.
00:19 <@armabot> smoothice: dark the in down is Walking dangerous. a street
00:19 * epsy is lacking middle-click pasting
00:19 <nsh22> #shuffle hi there
00:19 <@armabot> nsh22: hi there
00:19 <nsh22> aw
00:19 <nsh22> it hates me\
00:19 <epsy> fail
00:19 <ivantis2> okay before i get banned again, im out
00:20 <ivantis2> peace
00:20 -!- ivantis2 [n=Android@m0a0e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit ["-a-"]
00:20 <epsy> Lucifer: quick!
00:20 <nsh22> lol
00:20 <epsy> autocomplete only works with at least 3 characters, duh
00:20 <nsh22> anywho
00:20 <smoothice> nsh22: Lets go to your serer
00:20 <nsh22> kk
00:20 <nsh22> and it will work with 2 characters
00:21 <nsh22> like sm for smoothice
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00:24 <nsh22> luke-jr : hey, would it be possible to get a map changer on my server?
00:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: sure
00:25 <luke-jr> nsh22: upload it and give me the filename ☺
00:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: you're asking him to upload a php changer?
00:27 <nsh22> luke-jr : would lucifers map changer work?
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00:40 <nsh22> anywho... i g2g
00:40 <nsh22> pc out
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00:49 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r803 Better test for ftgl.h: check whether individual headers are... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r802 Fixed function typo.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r655 DTD stuff for Rubber zones
00:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8849 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed function typo.
00:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8850 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. configure.ac): Manuel Moos: Better test for ftgl.h: check whether individual headers are deprecated first.
00:52 <smoothice> #myip
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
00:52 <smoothice> #list Alias
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, c, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, corn, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, (5 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: devhelp, dicht, die, die, digg, digitx, ding, disclaimer, dns, do, dofinger, dog, dong, donkey, doping, dorka, eds, eliza, emmy, epicfail, eroulette, f, fail, fart, farton, fastfood, fetch2, fight, finc, fink, flashyy, flerxytyme, flirt, fofo, forest, fortune, forums, freeciv, fuck!, g, gcalc, gfight, go, godtodd, going, goodbye, goodnight, grep, grep2, hd, hack, hell, hello, hey, (4 more messages)
00:52 <smoothice> #more
00:52 <@armabot> smoothice: hoop, hungary, hyphy, impregnate, insight, ircstats, jesus, joke, kill, killsomeone, kinc, kinf, king, kyle, kyo, laddle10, lags, lastseen, lastseenf, lastseen flexsmum, legit, lies, llog, lock, log, log, logs, ls, lukejrworks, m, mail, makeop, man, mcalc, mfaq, ming, monologue, morning, move, mrbougo, murder, myip, n00b, nano, nerd, new, night, no, noob, null, obsolete, (3 more messages)
00:53 <smoothice> #myip
00:53 <ct|kyle> #help myip
00:53 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (myip <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://whatismyip.org".
00:53 <epsy_cbb> #more smoothice
00:53 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
00:53 <@armabot> epsy_cbb: onlineplayers, onlineservers, pacman, path, path2, peek, phail, pingme, pingy, piong, plzpwn, poing, pong, praise, ptfort, pwn, q, quot, r, raaaaaaape, randomnick, rape, rating, rating2, rating2test, real, realchatlogs, remove, removeop, res, resources, ring, rou, roulette, roulette, roulete, roulotte, rules, râ€oulette, say, sd, sd v spacelab, send, serv, serverdetails, serverinfo, (2 more messages)
00:53 <ct|kyle> #more epsy_cbb
00:54 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: Sorry, I can't find any mores for epsy_cbb
00:54 <ct|kyle> smoothice: http://whatismyip.com/
00:55 <epsy_cbb> ip-adress.com is quite neat
00:57 <ct|kyle> something is wrong, this is the longest Durka has ever stayed here
00:57 <MrBougo> #mrbougo
00:57 <@armabot> MrBougo is French :\/
00:57 <MrBougo> yeah whatev
00:58 <epsy_cbb> lol Oo
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01:03 <maclover201> ct|kyle: the rubber zone integration with mapfiles doesn't work for some reason
01:04 <epsy_cbb> mmm rubber zones
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01:09 <BabyBug> luke-jr!
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01:10 <PinkTomato> #ubuntu
01:10 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev
01:12 <PinkTomato> Durka: sudo apt-get install bzr build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev
01:12 <epsy_cbb> nigthy
01:12 <BabyBug> night
01:12 <PinkTomato> night epsy_cbb :)
01:12 <epsy_cbb> PinkTomato: so I4m in tier 1? damn!
01:13 <epsy_cbb> xD
01:13 <PinkTomato> tier 1?
01:13 <PinkTomato> :D?
01:13 <epsy_cbb> lol, ggs
01:13 <Durka> PinkTomato: should i do that?
01:13 <Durka> i still dont have ubuntu tho
01:13 * epsy_cbb also forgot the command for PMing
01:13 <PinkTomato> Durka: ubuntu/debian almost the same, should work
01:14 <Durka> k
01:14 <Durka> how do i un-cd
01:14 <Durka> if that makes sense
01:14 <PinkTomato> cd ..
01:15 <BabyBug> cd ../.. to move up 2 directories
01:15 <BabyBug> cd ../../.. for 3
01:15 <BabyBug> and so on..
01:15 <PinkTomato> and cd .../ to go down and back up
01:16 <BabyBug> and cd on it's own to go to ya home dir
01:16 <BabyBug> xD
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01:17 <PinkTomato> :D
01:17 <PinkTomato> Durka: You might want ZThreads if your doing --enable-armathentication
01:17 <Durka> and how do i get zthreads
01:17 <Durka> :S
01:19 <PinkTomato> trying to remeber
01:19 <PinkTomato> #aawiki zthreads
01:19 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Search took 0.24 seconds: Authentication for Players - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Authentication_for_Players>
01:20 <maclover201> I know how
01:21 <maclover201> so
01:21 <maclover201> in a terminal, type this: wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zthread/ZThread-2.3.2.tar.gz
01:21 <Durka> then what
01:21 <maclover201> then
01:21 <maclover201> hmm, that link doesnt work
01:22 <maclover201> actually
01:22 <maclover201> nvm, it does
01:22 <maclover201> then
01:22 <maclover201> gunzip ZThread-2.3.2.tar.gz
01:22 <maclover201> after that
01:23 <maclover201> tar xf ZThread-2.3.2.tar
01:23 <maclover201> then
01:23 <maclover201> cd ZThread-2.3.2
01:23 <maclover201> and
01:24 <maclover201> sudo aptitude install gcc
01:24 <ct|kyle> maclover201: let me go test my map somewhere
01:24 <maclover201> ok
01:24 <Durka> does "sudo" even work on debian?
01:24 <maclover201> if you don't have gcc lready
01:24 <maclover201> umm
01:24 <maclover201> i think so
01:24 <maclover201> if not
01:24 <PinkTomato> Durka: depends on setup
01:24 <maclover201> su root
01:25 <maclover201> yeah
01:25 <PinkTomato> Durka: could it find build-essential ?
01:25 <maclover201> so then
01:25 <maclover201> yeah, build-essential is important
01:25 <maclover201> so then
01:26 <maclover201> CXXFLAGS=-fpermissive ./configure --prefix=/usr
01:26 <Durka> maclover201: sudo aptitude install gcc
01:26 <maclover201> yeah
01:26 <Durka> i just did "aptitude install gcc" and it worked
01:26 <maclover201> ok
01:26 <maclover201> you must be root then
01:26 <maclover201> then
01:26 <maclover201> aptitude install build-essential
01:27 <PinkTomato> #ubuntu
01:27 <@armabot> sudo apt-get install bzr (or subversion) build-essential automake libboost-dev libxml2-dev libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl-mixer1.2-dev ftgl-dev libglew-dev bison pkg-config autoconf autotools-dev
01:27 <Durka> wait
01:27 <PinkTomato> we did that already ;)
01:27 <maclover201> ohhh
01:27 <maclover201> lol
01:27 <maclover201> CXXFLAGS=-fpermissive ./configure --prefix=/usr
01:27 <maclover201> make
01:27 <maclover201> make install
01:27 <maclover201> ldconfig
01:27 <Durka> beware of spam!
01:27 <Durka> durka:~/ZThread-2.3.2# aptitude install gcc
01:27 <Durka> Reading package lists... Done
01:27 <Durka> Building dependency tree... Done
01:27 <Durka> Initializing package states... Done
01:27 <Durka> Reading task descriptions... Done
01:27 <Durka> Building tag database... Done
01:28 <Durka> The following packages have been kept back:
01:28 <Durka> bsdutils cpio debconf debconf-i18n debian-archive-keyring dpkg dselect
01:28 <Durka> e2fslibs e2fsprogs findutils initscripts libblkid1 libcomerr2 libgnutls13
01:28 <Durka> libkrb53 libpam-modules libpam-runtime libpam0g libss2 libssl0.9.8
01:28 <Durka> libuuid1 lsb-base mount openssh-client openssh-server ssh sysv-rc
01:28 <Durka> sysvinit sysvinit-utils tar tzdata util-linux vim-common vim-tiny
01:28 <Durka> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
01:28 <PinkTomato> Pastbin!
01:28 <Durka> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
01:28 <Durka> Writing extended state information... Done
01:28 <maclover201> okokok
01:28 <BabyBug> Durka, http://rafb.net/paste/
01:28 <PinkTomato> that's good news
01:28 <BabyBug> in future ;)
01:29 <maclover201> type gcc into a command line
01:29 <PinkTomato> scroll up and do the commands on the zThreads
01:29 <maclover201> if it's installed, should say "gcc: no input files"
01:29 <Durka> yea it does
01:29 <maclover201> ok
01:29 <maclover201> good
01:29 <maclover201> then
01:29 <maclover201> what directory are you in?
01:29 <Durka> root
01:29 <maclover201> ok
01:29 <ct|kyle> Durka: debian does not have sudo, must su to get to root and run
01:29 <maclover201> type ls
01:29 <maclover201> ok
01:30 <BabyBug> since when does debian not have sudo? O.o
01:30 <Durka> durka:~# ls
01:30 <Durka> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct ZThread-2.3.2.tar
01:30 <Durka> ZThread-2.3.2 bzr_1.5-1~bpo40+1_i386.deb
01:30 <maclover201> ok
01:30 <PinkTomato> My debian has sudo :)
01:30 <maclover201> cd ZThread-2.3.2
01:30 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: never did, that was added in ubuntu
01:30 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, no it wasn;'t ><
01:30 <maclover201> ls
01:30 <PinkTomato> that was ls
01:30 <Durka> durka:~# cd Z-Thread-2.3.2
01:30 <Durka> -bash: cd: Z-Thread-2.3.2: No such file or directory
01:30 <Durka> durka:~# ls
01:30 <Durka> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct ZThread-2.3.2.tar
01:30 <Durka> ZThread-2.3.2 bzr_1.5-1~bpo40+1_i386.deb
01:30 <maclover201> you mispelled it
01:30 <PinkTomato> cd ZTh and press ctrl I
01:31 <Durka> ur right i did
01:31 <PinkTomato> then enter
01:31 <ct|kyle> #si regular CTF
01:31 <maclover201> ZThread-2.3.2, not Z-Thread-2.3.2
01:31 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Regular CTF: Players (0/10):
01:31 <BabyBug> PinkTomato, ctrl+i?
01:31 <BabyBug> That does the same as tab?
01:31 <Durka> durka:~# cd ZThread-2.3.2
01:31 <Durka> durka:~/ZThread-2.3.2# ls
01:31 <PinkTomato> AutoComplete, found it by accident
01:31 <Durka> AUTHORS LICENSE README configure install-sh src
01:31 <Durka> BUILDING MIT.TXT TODO configure.ac ltmain.sh
01:31 <Durka> COPYING Makefile.am aclocal.m4 depcomp missing
01:31 <Durka> ChangeLog Makefile.in config.guess doc mkinstalldirs
01:31 <Durka> INSTALL NEWS config.sub include share
01:31 <maclover201> Durka: ok
01:31 <BabyBug> tab is much easier =P
01:31 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: wait, I could press Tab?
01:31 <BabyBug> yes
01:31 <BabyBug> lol
01:31 <maclover201> Durka: CXXFLAGS=-fpermissive ./configure --prefix=/usr
01:32 <maclover201> just copy-paste
01:32 <PinkTomato> BabyBug: LOL, OK, ty :)
01:32 <maclover201> unless you're working in a hardcore command line
01:32 <BabyBug> tab works for commands aswell, no just completing directory names :P
01:32 <maclover201> :D
01:32 <Durka> im still cd'd
01:32 <maclover201> ok
01:32 <maclover201> good
01:32 <Durka> is that ok?
01:32 <Durka> k ill paste CXXFLAGS=-fpermissive ./configure --prefix=/usr
01:32 <Durka> right?
01:33 <maclover201> yeah
01:33 <PinkTomato> Durka: just go with it
01:33 <Durka> done
01:33 <maclover201> ok
01:33 <PinkTomato> make && make install
01:33 <maclover201> wait until it completes
01:33 <Durka> (idk who u are maclover but i love u)
01:33 <maclover201> then make && make install
01:33 <Durka> its done
01:33 <maclover201> lol thx.
01:33 <maclover201> ok
01:33 <maclover201> make && make install
01:33 <maclover201> actually
01:33 <maclover201> noo
01:33 <maclover201> make ; make install
01:33 <Durka> er
01:33 <Durka> should i just do make
01:33 <Durka> entere
01:33 <PinkTomato> ? I always make && make install?
01:34 <Durka> then when done
01:34 <PinkTomato> yeah do make Durka
01:34 <Durka> make install
01:34 <maclover201> i thought that was dos lol
01:34 <PinkTomato> do that
01:34 <maclover201> yeah
01:34 <Durka> k
01:34 <maclover201> make, then after that finishes make install
01:34 <ct|kyle> maclover201: come
01:34 <ct|kyle> .si regular CTF
01:34 <Durka> done
01:34 <maclover201> ok
01:34 <maclover201> make install
01:34 <ct|kyle> #si regular CTF
01:34 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Regular CTF: Players (1/10): ct¤ky13 (kyle@ct)
01:35 <Durka> done ^
01:35 <maclover201> ok
01:35 <maclover201> ldconfig
01:35 <Durka> in root ?
01:35 <maclover201> yeah
01:35 <Durka> durka:~/ZThread-2.3.2# cd
01:35 <Durka> durka:~# ldconfig
01:35 <Durka> ...
01:35 <maclover201> it doesnt matter where, really
01:35 <maclover201> thats all its supposed to do
01:35 <maclover201> then
01:36 <Durka> lol ok
01:36 <maclover201> type cd ..
01:36 <maclover201> cd ..
01:36 <Durka> but im already in root?
01:36 <maclover201> then
01:36 <maclover201> ls
01:36 <maclover201> ls
01:36 <maclover201> i want to see what directory you're in
01:37 <Durka> durka:~# ls
01:37 <Durka> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct ZThread-2.3.2.tar
01:37 <Durka> ZThread-2.3.2 bzr_1.5-1~bpo40+1_i386.deb
01:37 <maclover201> ok
01:37 <maclover201> cd 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
01:37 <maclover201> then
01:37 <maclover201> ./configure --enable-armathentication
01:37 <Durka> er
01:38 <Durka> wat about
01:38 <Durka> all that other garbage
01:38 <Durka> this: /configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/ --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts
01:38 <maclover201> yeah
01:38 <ct|kyle> it is also nice to use --prefix
01:38 <Durka> so
01:38 <maclover201> ./configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/ --enable-armathentication --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts
01:38 <Durka> ./configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/ --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
01:38 <maclover201> yeah
01:38 <maclover201> thats good
01:38 <ct|kyle> maclover201: I don't have any trouble with rubber zones not working in map
01:38 <maclover201> same thing
01:39 <Durka> durka:~# cd 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
01:39 <Durka> durka:~/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct# ./configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/ --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
01:39 <Durka> -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
01:39 <Durka> durka:~/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct#
01:39 <maclover201> Oh
01:39 <maclover201> ./bootstrap.sh
01:39 <maclover201> then ./configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/ --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
01:39 <maclover201> ./configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/ --disable-glout --enable-respawn --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
01:40 <maclover201> use that one ^^^
01:40 <maclover201> ct|kyle: Seriously?
01:40 <maclover201> ct|kyle: How did you set them up in your mapfile?
01:41 <ct|kyle> maclover201: http://crazy-tronners.com/resource/kyle/ctf/rubberZone-0.0.1.aamap.xml serverside stuff it commented out
01:41 <maclover201> Oh
01:41 <ct|kyle> maclover201: but that is what i am using client side
01:41 <Durka> ok its working
01:41 <maclover201> I must have set them up wrong then
01:41 <maclover201> ok
01:41 <maclover201> then
01:41 <maclover201> make
01:42 <maclover201> make install
01:42 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer
01:42 <ct|kyle> probbaly did rubber instead of rubberVal
01:42 <Durka> follow that?
01:42 <maclover201> yeah
01:42 <maclover201> thats what i am running
01:42 <ct|kyle> they are at the end
01:42 <Durka> btw who are u
01:42 <Durka> (aliases)
01:42 <maclover201> Master Chief, admin of internalDrive servers
01:42 <Durka> ooo gotcha!
01:42 <maclover201> yep
01:42 <maclover201> this is exactly how i set up my servers
01:43 <Durka> awesome
01:43 <maclover201> when you set up your second one if you want to
01:43 <Durka> i cant thank u enough :)
01:43 <BabyBug> Why hasn't anyone made a bash script to automate this whole process yet?
01:43 <maclover201> yw
01:43 <maclover201> i have
01:43 <maclover201> lol
01:43 <maclover201> it updates the servers with bzr and everything
01:43 <Durka> ooo
01:43 <Durka> i might want that ;)
01:43 <maclover201> i was friggin sick of typing it in every time
01:43 <maclover201> ok
01:43 <maclover201> sure
01:43 <BabyBug> one that's publically available on the wiki :P
01:43 <Durka> especially since ill never remember all this stuff haha
01:43 <maclover201> ok
01:44 <maclover201> ill post it
01:44 <Durka> ok so i did make install
01:44 <maclover201> and
01:44 <maclover201> it should install
01:44 <ct|kyle> did you tell him to bzr branch or bzr co
01:44 <maclover201> branch
01:44 <Durka> yea it is
01:44 <maclover201> i think
01:45 <Durka> should i keep following the instructions on that wiki page i linked u
01:45 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer
01:45 <maclover201> bzr branch, svn co. 2 diff. commands
01:45 <Durka> for like the 10th time lol
01:45 <maclover201> wait
01:45 <maclover201> oh dear
01:45 <maclover201> ummmm
01:45 <maclover201> make uninstall
01:45 <Durka> er why
01:45 <Durka> :X
01:46 <maclover201> wait...
01:46 <maclover201> are you sure you want them in /opt?
01:46 <maclover201> the servers?
01:46 <Durka> does it matter?
01:46 <PinkTomato> nope
01:46 <PinkTomato> well epsy will tell you it does
01:46 <maclover201> not really, but i'm not even sure if you have /opt on your distro
01:47 <PinkTomato> but he's not here so :D
01:47 <Durka> i do
01:47 <maclover201> ok
01:47 <Durka> i looked in the file manager
01:47 <maclover201> ok good
01:47 <maclover201> i run ubuntu, so it's a little different
01:47 <maclover201> but not by much
01:47 <maclover201> are you going to run multiple servers?
01:47 <Durka> ok so
01:47 <Durka> yea
01:47 <maclover201> ok
01:47 <maclover201> then
01:47 <maclover201> make uninstall
01:48 <PinkTomato> wait
01:48 <PinkTomato> its fine where it is
01:48 <PinkTomato> no need to waste time doing that
01:48 <Durka> arg
01:48 <Durka> whats wrong with where it is
01:48 <maclover201> yeah, but not if he wants to do mltiple servers....
01:48 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8851 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. AUTHORS language/english_base.txt src/tron/gWinZone.cpp): Manuel Moos: Applied hoop's zone rendering patch. 'tis good.
01:48 <PinkTomato> where are you going to put it?
01:48 <PinkTomato> maclover201: it won't make a difference?
01:48 <Durka> the wiki page tells me too!!
01:48 <PinkTomato> why would it?
01:48 <maclover201> ./configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/server1 --disable-glout --enable-respawn --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
01:48 <maclover201> for the first server
01:48 <PinkTomato> Oh
01:49 <maclover201> ./configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/server2 --disable-glout --enable-respawn --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
01:49 <PinkTomato> You can use the same binary
01:49 <maclover201> for the second one
01:49 <maclover201> Oh, yeah
01:49 <PinkTomato> :P
01:49 <maclover201> Good point lol
01:49 <Durka> yea
01:49 <PinkTomato> its fine Durka :)
01:49 <maclover201> hope you didnt make uninstall
01:49 <Durka> ok so ill continue reading the wiki
01:49 <PinkTomato> continue with the wiki
01:49 <Durka> nope i didnt
01:49 <PinkTomato> :)
01:49 <maclover201> yeah
01:49 <maclover201> :D
01:49 <noob13> #tea
01:49 <@armabot> noob13: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
01:50 <maclover201> yeah, i have my servers set up with 2 binaries because each has different code
01:50 <ct|kyle> why woudent you just
01:50 <ct|kyle> ./configure --prefix=/path/to/server1/ and so on for each server
01:50 <maclover201> yeah
01:50 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: because the wiki is wrong
01:50 <PinkTomato> and no one has updated it
01:50 <ct|kyle> ya :P
01:50 <ct|kyle> maclover201: did you tell Durka to use bzr co or bzr branch
01:51 <maclover201> ct|kyle: bzr branch, co is for svn
01:51 * PinkTomato thought they are the same?
01:51 <maclover201> well i've always used branch
01:51 <maclover201> lol
01:51 <ct|kyle> but co you can use bzr up with
01:51 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r987 Applied hoop's zone rendering patch. 'tis good....
01:51 <ct|kyle> and branch you can't :P
01:51 <maclover201> idk
01:51 <maclover201> lol
01:52 <maclover201> all i do with bzr is branch and pull :P
01:52 <ct|kyle> i use co and up :P branch for coding though
01:53 <BabyBug> i don't see the point in using a branch if it's going to be put to use
01:53 <BabyBug> might aswell just use co
01:53 <zmanuel> you man co --lightweight :)
01:53 <zmanuel> plain co takes as much space as a branch.
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01:54 <ct|kyle> that might not be a bad idea
01:54 <BabyBug> liar!
01:54 <BabyBug> *checks*
01:54 <ct|kyle> lol
01:54 <PinkTomato> huh?
01:54 <Durka> guys
01:55 <ct|kyle> Durka:
01:55 <PinkTomato> Oh Hi Durka
01:55 <Durka> is it possible to copy paste more than one line
01:55 <Durka> mkdir server2
01:55 <Durka> mkdir server2/settings
01:55 <Durka> mkdir server2/var
01:55 <Durka> like if i copy-pasted all that
01:55 <Durka> would it execute all 3 commands
01:55 <ct|kyle> mkdir server2 && mkdir server2/settings && mkdir server2/var
01:55 <BabyBug> You can copy and paste though
01:55 <BabyBug> stop complicating things kyle :P
01:56 <PinkTomato> cp -Rv server 1 server2
01:56 <Durka> wait can i or not
01:56 <Durka> w/e ill do it like a normal person
01:56 <BabyBug> You can
01:56 <ct|kyle> Durka: it should though
01:57 <ct|kyle> i think :P
01:58 <maclover201> yeah
01:58 <PinkTomato> I have wasted too much time on Tetris on Facebook...
01:59 * ct|kyle bans PinkTomato from facebook
01:59 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: you know there are better games than that
01:59 <BabyBug> --lightweight takes forever ><
01:59 <BabyBug> to actually get it..
01:59 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: There may be, but I can't get highscores in them :P
01:59 <maclover201> ct|kyle: When I set map_file to a map with rubberzones, it says: No declaration of attribute "rubber" for element Zone
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02:00 <BabyBug> 13M ./co-lightweight
02:00 <BabyBug> 25M ./branch
02:00 <BabyBug> 25M ./co
02:00 <BabyBug> zmanuel was right ='(
02:00 * zmanuel does happy dance
02:00 <ct|kyle> maclover201: are you using the right DTD
02:00 <maclover201> @#$%
02:00 <maclover201> lol
02:00 <ct|kyle> <!DOCTYPE Resource SYSTEM "AATeam/map-0.2.8.0_sty+ct2.dtd">
02:00 <ct|kyle> :P
02:00 <maclover201> lol
02:00 <maclover201> *smacks head*
02:01 <ct|kyle> i take that as a no
02:01 <maclover201> yeah
02:04 <PinkTomato> Durka: how is it going?
02:05 <Durka> i paused
02:05 <Durka> :P
02:05 <PinkTomato> paused :)?
02:05 <PinkTomato> you could try your armagetron-dedicated file and check all is OK
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02:08 <maclover201> ct|kyle: crud, still not working
02:08 <ct|kyle> maclover201: what is it doing now?
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02:09 <ct|kyle> ...
02:09 <PinkTomato> I think people do that on purpose
02:09 <Durka> i havent finished
02:09 <Durka> one sec
02:09 <PinkTomato> OK :)
02:09 <Durka> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer#The_server_script
02:10 <Durka> im on the sever script section
02:10 <PinkTomato> Right,
02:10 <PinkTomato> the script quit functions do not work
02:10 <ct|kyle> http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Running_a_Server
02:10 <ct|kyle> :P
02:10 <PinkTomato> that has a parser though :)
02:10 <PinkTomato> we don't need a parser
02:11 <ct|kyle> screen -R is much better than -S
02:11 <PinkTomato> what is the difference?
02:12 <ct|kyle> -R will open it is it exists
02:12 <ct|kyle> else it creates new
02:12 <ct|kyle> -s just creates a new
02:12 <ct|kyle> -S*
02:13 <BabyBug> the point of -S is to given the screen session a name...
02:13 <BabyBug> of course it's going to create a new :P
02:13 <PinkTomato> but you end up with dead servers
02:13 <PinkTomato> when you run the script again
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02:13 <maclover201> hi
02:13 <PinkTomato> and you end up typing top
02:13 <maclover201> sry, something glitched
02:13 <PinkTomato> and randomly guessing with your kill
02:13 <ct|kyle> maclover201: figure it out on your brake
02:14 <maclover201> ct|kyle: http://pastebin.com/d7c11ae14
02:14 <maclover201> thats the top of my xml
02:16 <ct|kyle> maclover201: what about 1 of your rubber zones
02:16 <maclover201> umm
02:16 <maclover201> its on the pastebin
02:17 <ct|kyle> no
02:17 <ct|kyle> you only have first 11 lines
02:17 <maclover201> refresh
02:17 <Durka> PinkTomato: To make your servers start at boot, edit the /etc/rc.local file and add the "start" script at the end of /opt/armagetronad/scripts/start
02:17 <Durka> If you want to manually start all servers, just run the ./start script.
02:17 <PinkTomato> Durka: ignore, I have never rebooted my server since ii have had it
02:17 <Durka> meh
02:17 <Durka> so just do ./start?
02:18 <PinkTomato> And it will load each server in servers
02:18 <ct|kyle> maclover201: nothing different comes up
02:18 <maclover201> ok
02:18 <maclover201> then
02:19 <maclover201> <Zone effect="rubber" rubber="7">
02:19 <maclover201> <ShapeCircle radius="112">
02:19 <maclover201> <Point x="5016" y="-3384"/>
02:19 <maclover201> </ShapeCircle>
02:19 <maclover201> </Zone>
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02:19 <ct|kyle> it is rubberVal not rubber
02:19 <ct|kyle> so <Zone effect="rubber" rubberVal="7">
02:19 <maclover201> ok
02:19 <maclover201> thx
02:21 <Durka> PinkTomato: but first i should upload my settings files
02:21 <Durka> right?
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02:21 <PinkTomato> Durka: possibly :),
02:21 <Durka> er
02:21 <Durka> from which directory do i type ./start
02:21 <PinkTomato> scripts :)
02:22 <PinkTomato> that is where start should be
02:22 <ct|kyle> maclover201: let me know if that does not work :)
02:22 <Durka> k
02:22 <maclover201> ok
02:22 <Durka> durka:~# cd /opt/armagetronad/scripts
02:22 <Durka> durka:/opt/armagetronad/scripts# ./start
02:22 <Durka> -bash: ./start: Permission denied
02:22 <Durka> er.....
02:22 <PinkTomato> chmod +x *
02:23 <maclover201> It works, thx
02:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/Race/Moon-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
02:25 <Durka> um i just type chmod +x * ?
02:25 <PinkTomato> yeap
02:25 <PinkTomato> makes files executable
02:25 <Durka> durka:/opt/armagetronad/scripts# ./start
02:25 <Durka> No screen session found.
02:25 <Durka> No screen session found.
02:25 <Durka> No screen session found.
02:25 <Durka> No screen session found.
02:25 <Durka> No screen session found.
02:25 <Durka> No screen session found.
02:25 <Durka> No screen session found.
02:25 <Durka> lololol
02:26 <Durka> no screen sessions found for all 7 servers :O
02:26 <PinkTomato> How many setting files did you have O_o
02:26 <Durka> 0
02:26 <Durka> :P
02:26 <PinkTomato> well
02:26 <PinkTomato> you are now running 7 servers
02:26 <maclover201> ct|kyle: It worked, thanks.
02:26 <PinkTomato> whats your IP address?
02:26 <Durka> with absolutely no settings?
02:26 <PinkTomato> yeap
02:27 <PinkTomato> screen -r [server name]
02:27 <ct|kyle> maclover201: your welcome
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02:33 <maclover201> :| nobody's talking
02:34 <ct|kyle> lets go try that map instead :P
02:34 <maclover201> lol, mine?
02:34 <ct|kyle> sure heh, mine was just a map i had on my PC
02:34 <maclover201> oh
02:34 <maclover201> lol
02:34 <maclover201> internaldrive.info port 4535
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02:39 <maclover201> hi
02:39 <maclover201> epic arma map
02:39 <maclover201> match
02:41 <Durka> ok
02:41 <Durka> um
02:41 <Durka> i think i got it running
02:41 <Durka> durka:~# cd /opt/armagetronad/scripts
02:41 <Durka> durka:/opt/armagetronad/scripts# ./start
02:41 <Durka> wait maybe i had to kill them :O
02:41 <Durka> cuz i already started them :S
02:41 <Durka> before
02:44 <ct|kyle> Durka: is it running?
02:45 <ct|kyle> DDL USA?
02:45 <Durka> no
02:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8852 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
02:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
02:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: Added option to leave language files as latin1 by adding a line reading
02:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: "encoding latin1"
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02:48 <madmax> DDL is aiming at world domination? :-O
02:48 <Lizmatic> DDL is still up?
02:48 <BabyBug> #si nexus
02:48 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (3/16): agent7, N9::Kef (N9\:\:Kef@), N9::MreDD
02:48 <Durka> ok
02:48 <BabyBug> coming madmax?
02:48 <Durka> seriously i wanna figure this out >.>
02:49 <madmax> BabyBug: maybe....
02:49 <ct|kyle> Durka: what is the problem
02:50 <madmax> what's this rush for US servers? weak dollar? :)
02:50 <PinkTomato> strong dollar!
02:50 <madmax> doesn't make sense for Durka though
02:50 <Durka> i wanna try and start these servers!!!
02:50 <PinkTomato> Durka: good luck btw!
02:50 <Durka> madmax: 5 bux for very good vps ^_^
02:50 <Durka> PinkTomato: i need ur help
02:50 <Durka> i terminated all the screens
02:50 <PinkTomato> right
02:50 <Durka> since they were like crashing
02:50 <madmax> not bad I guess
02:50 <PinkTomato> yeap
02:50 <Durka> cuz no files in settings folder
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02:51 <PinkTomato> run top
02:51 <Durka> Genki: o_O
02:51 <ct|kyle> o0
02:51 <Durka> anyways
02:51 <PinkTomato> I rememeber a Genki...
02:51 <PinkTomato> anyway yeah
02:51 <Genki> Durka O.o
02:51 <Lizmatic> Genki..
02:51 <Lizmatic> < sasori
02:51 <BabyBug> madmax, ><
02:51 <Genki> anywho?
02:51 <Genki> heya
02:51 <Durka> i put an autoexec.cfg file in ......../server1/settings/
02:51 <Lizmatic> ahoy
02:51 <ct|kyle> oiya Genki
02:51 <madmax> whoa Genki, we reached a peak of 4 girls here
02:51 <Genki> lol
02:51 <Lizmatic> no.. girls dont exist on the internet
02:51 <Genki> heya max long time no see
02:52 <Genki> heya kyle
02:52 <madmax> hello. ditched tron?
02:52 <Genki> :O
02:52 <Genki> ditcher
02:52 <ct|kyle> anyway Durka so WFT are you trying to do
02:52 <Genki> xD
02:52 <ct|kyle> WTF*
02:52 <Durka> start up the server
02:53 <ct|kyle> try creating a file to run the server :P
02:53 <BabyBug> madmax, 4?
02:53 <madmax> yes...
02:54 <Lizmatic> me, you, genki, fonkay
02:54 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r804 Added option to leave language files as latin1 by adding a l...
02:54 <Lizmatic> OVERLOAD
02:54 <BabyBug> I thought i was the fat hairy dude =(
02:55 <ct|kyle> Durka: something like http://pastebin.ca/1311313
02:55 <Genki> no that's me
02:55 <Genki> wait what am I again durka?
02:55 <Lizmatic> a whore
02:55 <Lizmatic> most likely
02:56 <Genki> indeed
02:56 <Genki> I wish
02:56 <Genki> I'm a whore in spirit, bf would kill me
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03:04 * BabyBug offers Genki some spirit money =D
03:05 <ct|kyle> Durka: What script are you trying to use?
03:06 <PinkTomato> script on wiki afaik
03:07 <ct|kyle> Durka: that script is crazy, use the one i pastebined :P
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03:10 <Durka> ct|kyle: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Running_Multiple_Servers_on_a_single_Linux_computer#the_global_script
03:10 <Durka> is that a bad script?
03:11 * ct|kyle forces BabyBug to cuddle Genki
03:11 <BabyBug> Oh no you don't!
03:12 <Durka> ?
03:12 <ct|kyle> Durka: I donno what that one does
03:12 <Durka> thats the one that sux
03:12 <ct|kyle> that's why i would make one like i told you, them just manually make a screen and execute it
03:13 <Genki> kyle: why not fonkay, she'd beat the crap outta me
03:14 <ct|kyle> because i wanted BabyBug to beat the crap outta me :P
03:14 <BabyBug> i don't beat the crap out of people...
03:14 <BabyBug> i'm far too small to do so =P
03:15 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: only me :P lets see you stab me, make me into little pieces
03:16 <madmax> BabyBug: go back!
03:16 <Genki> brb
03:16 <BabyBug> madmax, arf!
03:16 <BabyBug> madmax, haven't you had enough of me beating you/
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03:16 <madmax> sadly, no
03:17 <PinkTomato> Durka: how is it going?
03:17 * PinkTomato want's sleep :)
03:17 * ct|kyle ponders telling durka the really easy way, not listed there
03:17 * PinkTomato is beginning to see how that might be easier
03:17 <ct|kyle> if tronner was here :P .bedforce PinkTomato
03:18 <PinkTomato> xD
03:19 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 fullscreen_
03:19 <@armabot> ct|kyle: FULLSCREEN_MESSAGE: Prints a big message all over the screen, interrupting gameplay for a configurable timeout. Use with care.
03:19 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: xD
03:19 <PinkTomato> Can you find a legimate reason for that?
03:19 <ct|kyle> now how do i configure timeout :X
03:19 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: yes
03:20 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: <<timeout>> <<message>>
03:20 <ct|kyle> ok :)
03:20 <ct|kyle> I'll add it to CTWF to show high scores at end of match :)
03:20 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: is there a command to MSG a player?
03:21 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: ooo, I might try that with racing
03:21 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 player_me
03:21 <@armabot> ct|kyle: PLAYER_MESSAGE: player_message_help
03:21 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: thanks :)
03:21 <PinkTomato> is that a console_message though?
03:21 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: also may use it to advertise between rounds
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03:22 <ct|kyle> console message to a specific player only
03:22 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: ah right :)
03:22 <PinkTomato> that's what i want :)
03:22 <PinkTomato> ty
03:23 <PinkTomato> advertise what?
03:23 <ct|kyle> Genki: are you going to be 17 or 18 in 3 months?
03:23 <Genki> 18
03:23 <ct|kyle> OMG
03:23 <ct|kyle> LOL
03:23 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: to advertise tournaments
03:24 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: ah! that might be a good idea :)
03:24 <ct|kyle> no one reads the current ROUND_MESSAGE on CTWF or no one is interested, I wanna which of the 2
03:24 <ct|kyle> wanna Know*
03:25 <Genki> tournament?
03:25 <Genki> :O
03:26 <ct|kyle> Plus i wanna add in pulls for the Spork and the Bowl
03:26 <ct|kyle> i may put such messages between rounds 6 and 7 (intermission) :P
03:26 <maclover201> i gtg
03:26 <maclover201> cya guys
03:26 <Genki> cu
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03:27 <BabyBug> toodaloo
03:28 <BabyBug> too late ><
03:28 <Genki> toodaloo...
03:28 <BabyBug> ?
03:28 <Genki> ct|kyle: have you talked to legit lately?
03:28 <BabyBug> yes... and? =P
03:29 <Genki> just looks funny
03:29 <BabyBug> lol
03:29 <Genki> like squeege
03:29 <Genki> or w/e
03:29 <BabyBug> toodle pip and toodles? =D
03:29 <Genki> I can't spell
03:29 <Genki> xD
03:30 <ct|kyle> Genki: not in a while
03:31 <Genki> ct|kyle: I just watched the legit singing videos again, I miss him :(
03:31 <Genki> don't tell him I said that
03:31 <ct|kyle> heh
03:31 <ct|kyle> you outta talk him into a 3rd
03:31 <Genki> what song though?
03:31 <ct|kyle> i thought we determined that
03:31 <ct|kyle> on DDL
03:32 <Genki> YMCA and make him dress up like an indian?
03:32 <Genki> I forgot
03:32 <Genki> it's on angel's forums somewhere
03:32 <ct|kyle> ya on there :P
03:34 <luke-jr> Genki: #ArmaTWGeTRON
03:35 <ct|kyle> Genki: #luke-jrisanasshat
03:35 <ct|kyle> :P
03:35 <luke-jr> yeh that too
03:35 <luke-jr> also #luke-jr-fan-club
03:35 <ct|kyle> i bet there are 10 people there you and your bot
03:35 <luke-jr> no
03:35 <luke-jr> 2
03:35 <luke-jr> me and BillyCrook
03:36 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: that ws binary
03:36 <Genki> what kyle?
03:36 <ct|kyle> was*
03:36 <luke-jr> my bot ain't there
03:36 <ct|kyle> i was still correct on the # of people
03:36 <smoothice> ]say hi
03:36 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
03:38 <ct|kyle> ]bible search pr0n
03:39 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: No results
03:39 <PinkTomato> help ]bible
03:39 <PinkTomato> ]help bible
03:39 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
03:39 <BabyBug> lol PinkTomato you twit
03:39 <ct|kyle> lol
03:40 <PinkTomato> I can't help it if bots hate me >.<
03:40 <ct|kyle> better contact luke-jr
03:40 <ct|kyle> ]bible search Genki
03:41 <Genki> O.o
03:41 <PinkTomato> ]bible search bug
03:41 <ljrbot> ct|kyle: No results
03:41 <Genki> ]bible search kyle
03:41 <ljrbot> Leviticus 21:20 si gibbus, si lippus, si albuginem habens in oculo, si jugem scabiem, si impetiginem in corpore, vel herniosus. ; Tobiæ 6:9 Et fel valet ad ungendos oculos in quibus fuerit albugo, et sanabuntur. , 11:14 Et sustinuit quasi dimidiam fere horam : et cpit albugo ex oculis ejus, quasi membrana ovi, egredi. ; Esther 12:6 But Aman the son of Amadathi the Bugite was in (1 more message)
03:41 <ct|kyle> Genki: if there wwere results i would have had to send them to cloud
03:42 <Genki> lol
03:42 <Genki> why?
03:42 <PinkTomato> ]more
03:42 <ct|kyle> why not lol
03:42 <ljrbot> Genki: No results
03:42 <Genki> xD
03:42 <ljrbot> PinkTomato: great honour with the king, and sought to hurt Mardochai and his people, because of the two eunuchs of the king who were put to death.
03:42 <luke-jr> Genki: we need 1 more TWG player‼
03:42 <PinkTomato> Amadathi the Bugite << who named that child?
03:43 <PinkTomato> poor child.
03:43 <Genki> huh?
03:43 <Genki> twg?
03:43 <PinkTomato> IRC game
03:43 <PinkTomato> but not crap
03:43 <ct|kyle> that sucks
03:43 <Genki> @.@
03:44 <PinkTomato> Durka asks: Where is the settings kept normally, (PinkTomato has forgot)
03:45 <ct|kyle> in a seperate folder :P
03:46 <Durka> that wasnt my question really
03:46 <Durka> im just still confused why this doesnt work!
03:46 <Durka> o smoothice isnt idle anymore
03:47 <Durka> smoothice: ping!
03:48 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: tell Durka to get his butt in here and ask himself
03:48 <Durka> im here ^^^
03:48 <luke-jr> o
03:48 <luke-jr> lol
03:48 <Durka> >.>
03:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i think this has been the longest Durka has ever been here
03:50 <PinkTomato> Durka: you need a settings.cfg
03:50 <PinkTomato> I think
03:50 <PinkTomato> in your settings folder, with default settings
03:50 <Genki> I think this is the longest I've gone without durka biting my head off
03:50 <ct|kyle> settings_custon.cfg
03:50 <Genki> I'm obviously not doing my job
03:50 <ct|kyle> custom*
03:50 <PinkTomato> Durka has that
03:50 <PinkTomato> is getting error: (2:33:48 AM) Durka: Error: Error in int main(int, char**) in tron/gArmagetron.cpp:570 :
03:50 <PinkTomato> (2:33:48 AM) Durka: Configuration files not found. Check your installation.
03:51 <Durka> genki stfu u hoar
03:51 <Durka> <3
03:51 <ct|kyle> Durka: how did you compile it
03:51 <Genki> <3 durka
03:52 <Durka> ./configure blah blah
03:52 <Durka> make
03:52 <Durka> make install
03:52 <ct|kyle> as root or a normal user
03:52 <madmax> BabyBug: I shall now be less reluctant to play :P
03:52 <madmax> I haven't seen much people there recently though
03:53 <Durka> root
03:53 <BabyBug> madmax, why's that? =P And yeh..it's been empty alot =(
03:53 <PinkTomato> If you close down all the other servers it'll be busy ^^
03:53 <ct|kyle> did you use --prefix in the ./configure
03:54 <Durka> yea
03:54 <Durka> i did
03:54 <Durka> this:
03:54 <madmax> BabyBug: you're playing pretty good, and I like challenges :P
03:55 <ct|kyle> invisable text FTW
03:55 <Durka> ./configure --prefix=/opt/armagetronad/ --disable-glout --enable-automakedefaults --disable-sysinstall --disable-etc --disable-useradd --disable-initscripts --enable-armathentication
03:55 <BabyBug> madmax, hehe ^^ No rubber is and always will be my game mode =P No one will ever take it from me \o/
03:55 <PinkTomato> Durka: suggest you test bin/armagetronad-dedicated
03:55 <Durka> its there
03:55 <Durka> how do i test
03:55 <PinkTomato> run it
03:55 <PinkTomato> ./armagetronad-dedicated
03:55 <Durka> k
03:55 <ct|kyle> Durka: should be in /opt/armagetronad/etc/games/armagetronad-dedicated
03:56 <PinkTomato> copy all files from there except the ones you have got to server1 would be my suggestiong
03:58 * ct|kyle can't believe someone would compile code luke-jr wrote as root
03:59 <BabyBug> haha ct|kyle
03:59 <ct|kyle> is he now trying to run the server as root?
03:59 <PinkTomato> Time to go
03:59 <madmax> chuck norris runs everything as root, and he's doing fine
03:59 <PinkTomato> gl Durka!
03:59 <Durka> lol madmax
03:59 <Durka> ty for all ur help PinkTomato
03:59 <Durka> :)
04:00 <ct|kyle> wait is it working yet?
04:00 <PinkTomato> your welcome :), sorry I couldn't actually get it working though.
04:00 <Durka> wait i think its working :O
04:01 <PinkTomato> something is
04:01 <Durka> yes!
04:01 <Durka> score!
04:02 <PinkTomato> :)
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04:02 <madmax> I think I just got a resizing app which isn't able to resize very large pics
04:02 <madmax> oh the irony
04:02 <Genki> use photoshop
04:02 <Genki> lol
04:03 <Durka> Server has crashed. It will restart immediately..., press CTRL-C to cancel
04:03 <Durka> Error: Error in int main(int, char**) in tron/gArmagetron.cpp:570 :
04:03 <Durka> Configuration files not found. Check your installation.
04:03 <Durka> FUCK
04:03 <Genki> O.O
04:03 <ct|kyle> Durka: LOL
04:04 <BabyBug> s/FUCK/fiddlesticks
04:04 <BabyBug> =)
04:04 <dlh> what platform are you on durka?
04:04 <Durka> debian
04:04 <Durka> this is a vps
04:05 <ct|kyle> Durka: did you run ./bootstrap.sh before ./configure blah blah blah
04:06 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, configure doesn't exist if you don't run bootstrap.sh...
04:06 <Durka> wait i think this works
04:06 <BabyBug> Or it shouldn't
04:06 <Durka> YES
04:06 <Durka> it works!
04:06 <Durka> HALLELAJUJAH!
04:06 <ct|kyle> where
04:06 <ct|kyle> ip port
04:06 <Durka> how do i do the server info command
04:06 <Durka> do server info vps
04:06 <Durka> #si vps
04:06 <@armabot> Durka: Durka's VPS Test Server (Fortress): Players (0/16):
04:06 <Durka> FTW
04:07 <BabyBug> #si -v vps
04:07 <@armabot> BabyBug: Durka's VPS Test Server (Fortress) (66.71.250.169:4534) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090118 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (0/16):
04:07 <ct|kyle> #si -v vps
04:07 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Durka's VPS Test Server (Fortress) (66.71.250.169:4534) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090118 unix dedicated, url: http://www.armagetronad.net, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (0/16):
04:07 <ct|kyle> dam BabyBug
04:07 <BabyBug> beat yooh!
04:07 <Durka> hehe :)
04:07 <Durka> yes
04:07 <Durka> 4 hours later :S
04:07 <Durka> but yes!
04:07 <ct|kyle> lol Durka, tha is how long the rubber zones took me
04:08 <Durka> LOL
04:08 <Durka> ok sweet
04:08 <Durka> thnx everyone
04:08 <Durka> w00t
04:08 <ct|kyle> i'm not connectiong
04:08 <ct|kyle> #si -v vps
04:08 <@armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “vps” at the moment, sorry.
04:08 <Durka> i just took it down
04:08 <ct|kyle> oh
04:09 <BabyBug> fail kyle
04:09 <Durka> cuz im gonna start it when i get everything settled
04:09 <ct|kyle> remember to set SERVER_IP
04:09 <ct|kyle> else auth won't work
04:09 <BabyBug> why set SERVER_IP?
04:09 <BabyBug> It won't? O.o
04:09 <ct|kyle> nope
04:09 <BabyBug> well that's silly
04:11 <Durka> ok bye!!
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04:12 <BabyBug> ><
04:12 <ct|kyle> LOL
04:12 <BabyBug> Why don't people every STAY on irc
04:12 <BabyBug> zeesh!
04:12 <BabyBug> I'm getting bored of you lot!
04:12 <ct|kyle> lol
04:12 <ct|kyle> maybe Lucifer will be around soon
04:13 <Genki> I'm sorry I'm boring T.T
04:13 <Genki> I got roped into admining a df war
04:13 <Genki> which I know nothing about
04:13 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
04:13 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 26.4°F (10:13 PM EST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007.3 hPa (Falling).
04:13 * BabyBug cuddles Genki... I never meant you!
04:14 <ct|kyle> Genki: LOL that sucks, DF is boring
04:14 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: you better slap BabyBug^^
04:14 <Genki> :]
04:14 <Genki> HA kyle I got cuddled
04:14 <BabyBug> She called me a ho earlier...I warned her i would cuddle someone for it!
04:15 <ct|kyle> and you did not choose me BabyBug :'(
04:15 <BabyBug> newp ct|kyle, you're a guy =P
04:19 * BabyBug gives Genki another cuddle and sticks her tongue out at ct|kyle =P
04:19 <Genki> ^_^
04:19 <Genki> (kyle: maybe I shouldn't tell her I'm bi)
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04:20 <madmax> I'm pretty sure tron increases crazyness
04:20 <BabyBug> Genki, maybe I should tell you i'm bi ;)
04:21 <Genki> ooooo
04:21 <Genki> ct|kyle: can I keep her? she sounds fun
04:21 <BabyBug> lizmatic already has ownership of me =P
04:22 <Genki> T.T
04:22 <Genki> booo
04:22 <BabyBug> ^^
04:23 <Lucifer> haha
04:24 <Lucifer> my kids come to visit and BabyBug (hi there!) gets bored
04:24 * Lucifer thinks she needs to get out more
04:24 <BabyBug> hahaha
04:24 <BabyBug> Lucifer, come babysit for me so i can go out then! =P
04:25 <Genki> I'll babysit
04:25 <Genki> depends, how old?
04:25 <BabyBug> 4 months
04:25 <BabyBug> lol
04:26 <Genki> ah yeah that's fine then
04:27 <Lucifer> I'm already watching my own kids, now you want me to watch yours too?
04:27 <BabyBug> really that's fine? lol...blooming child minders here won't watch kids younger than 6 months =(
04:28 <Genki> heh
04:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, that's exactly what i want! =P
04:28 <Genki> I used to be a live-in nanny
04:28 <Genki> 3 kids, 9 months, 3, 8
04:28 <Genki> 9 months when I was living with, babysat before that
04:28 <BabyBug> How old are you? =)
04:28 <Genki> 17
04:29 <BabyBug> O.o
04:29 <BabyBug> live-in nanny at 17 :s
04:29 <Genki> 16 technically
04:29 <BabyBug> ><
04:29 <ct|kyle> Genki: was that the one you did the wwebsite for also?
04:30 <Lucifer> BabyBug: http://www.davefancella.com/ginandlesNOLA09.JPG <--- the girl that responded to my troll post
04:30 <Genki> ct|kyle: which one?
04:30 <Lucifer> get it quickly, I'm about to delete it :)
04:30 <BabyBug> got it
04:30 <ct|kyle> Genki: when you were the live in baby sitter, dident you do her website also
04:30 <BabyBug> she looks..erm...odd...but i don't know why i think that
04:31 <Lucifer> she's kinda cute, looks a little hick-ish though
04:31 <Lucifer> says she's "curvy" and "athletic"
04:31 <Lucifer> could be really hot, heh
04:31 <Lucifer> BA and MA
04:31 <Stewah> damn it Lucifer I wanted to see that picture
04:31 * BabyBug likes curvy and athletic \o/
04:32 <Genki> xD
04:32 <Genki> ct|kyle: nah, I helped with her computer repairs though
04:32 <Genki> and her website design work
04:32 <BabyBug> you curby and athletic Genki? =D
04:32 <BabyBug> curvy*
04:32 <Lucifer> Stewah: other channel, heh
04:32 <Stewah> I saw lol
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04:33 * Lucifer doesn't want to leave links to such girls in this channel that gets logged
04:33 <ct|kyle> Genki: i remember when you were doing that :P
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04:33 <Stewah> BabyBug: you just like going after random people don't you?
04:33 * Lucifer likes curvy and athletic, too
04:33 <Lucifer> she just wants whatever I like
04:33 <Lucifer> wait 'till she finds out how sexy I think I am
04:34 <BabyBug> Stewah, no not random...they have to be young!
04:34 * Stewah thinks Lucifer is dead sexy
04:34 <Stewah> I mean D:
04:34 <BabyBug> and sexy!
04:34 <Lucifer> oh, this girl's 27
04:34 <Genki> ct|kyle: long time ago
04:34 <Stewah> BabyBug: you wouldn't like her
04:34 <Stewah> er
04:34 <Stewah> that girl I mean, not Genki lol
04:34 <Genki> lol
04:34 <Genki> she wouldn't like me
04:34 <Genki> either
04:34 <ct|kyle> ya, what are you up to these days
04:34 <BabyBug> :o
04:34 <Stewah> D:
04:34 <Genki> I'm freaky
04:34 <BabyBug> why not?
04:34 <Stewah> But you are young!
04:34 <BabyBug> freaky in what way? =P
04:34 <Lucifer> BabyBug has knife fantasies
04:35 <Genki> the not-good way
04:35 <BabyBug> Lucifer, shhhhhhh don't scare her off just yet!
04:35 <Stewah> Yeah that's how she got me to talk to her >.>
04:35 <Stewah> With her knife fantasies >.>
04:35 <Lucifer> BabyBug: I already know Genki, heh
04:35 <BabyBug> Lucifer, i know..i mean scare her off from me *slaps*
04:35 <Lucifer> yeah, that's what I meant
04:35 <Lucifer> come on, y'all are the same
04:35 <Stewah> BabyBug: Genki is a giggler
04:35 <BabyBug> Ohhhh
04:35 <BabyBug> i see
04:35 <Genki> O.o
04:35 <BabyBug> ^^
04:35 <Lucifer> in fact, I was suspecting you were her for a little while
04:35 <Genki> hush stew!
04:35 <Stewah> lol
04:35 <BabyBug> she is?!
04:36 <BabyBug> haha
04:36 <Stewah> Genki: She'll like you after I say that :P
04:36 <BabyBug> Lucifer, really?
04:36 <BabyBug> We can't be that alike...lol
04:36 <Lucifer> you both hit on anything that remotely resembles a male in this channel....
04:36 <Stewah> <.<
04:36 <Lucifer> you both have bad english (heh)
04:36 <Stewah> Neither of them hit on me!
04:36 <Stewah> Wait...
04:36 <Stewah> Shit...
04:36 <Lucifer> maybe you don't remotely resemble a male?
04:36 <ct|kyle> both have "girl logic"
04:36 <ct|kyle> :P
04:37 <Genki> stewah: but but nuuu
04:37 <Stewah> D:
04:37 <Genki> I hit on the girls now
04:37 <Stewah> No to what? >.>
04:37 <Lucifer> er wait, I forgot to do something
04:37 <Stewah> Oh, well she still isn't hitting on me! :D
04:37 <Lucifer> #kick Genki for old time's sake
04:37 -!- Genki [n=genki@ip70-176-82-12.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "for old time's sake"]
04:38 <ct|kyle> lol
04:38 <Lucifer> now that Genki's gone, she can hit on you, Stewah
04:38 <Stewah> <.<
04:38 <Stewah> Who can? O.o
04:38 <BabyBug> haha
04:38 <Lucifer> BabyBug
04:38 <Stewah> oh lol
04:38 <Stewah> She still won't!
04:38 <Stewah> lol
04:38 <Lucifer> so, betting pool
04:38 -!- Genki [n=genki@ip70-176-82-12.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
04:38 * BabyBug wants Genki back ='(
04:38 <BabyBug> Yay!
04:39 <Stewah> rofl
04:39 <ct|kyle> lol
04:39 <Lucifer> er, can't bet now, she's already back
04:39 <Stewah> Shit, things were just getting interesting
04:39 <Genki> xD
04:39 <ct|kyle> kick her again :P
04:39 <Lucifer> hey, I could mail order a russian bride
04:39 <Stewah> I can't
04:39 <ct|kyle> lol Lucifer
04:39 <Lucifer> could I request "knows a little english and has a sexy voice" so she can do the announcer voice for arma?
04:40 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: i thought BabyBug was doing that
04:40 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: she doesn't have a mic
04:40 <Genki> Lucifer: you never kicked me before O.o
04:40 <BabyBug> No i wasn't ><
04:40 <Lucifer> did too
04:40 <Genki> you just belittled me
04:40 <Lucifer> I just don't remember why
04:40 <Genki> or some other word I don't know
04:40 <Stewah> BabyBug: that's where you are wrong
04:41 * BabyBug thinks about kicking Lucifer :@
04:41 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: that reminds me sinewav was in here wondering some questions about the sound in there
04:42 <Stewah> #kick Stewah Haha, I'll do it for you BabyBug!
04:42 <@armabot> Stewah: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
04:42 <Stewah> awww xD
04:42 <Stewah> damn
04:42 <Stewah> oh wait...
04:42 <Stewah> lol
04:42 <BabyBug> #kick Stewah you epic fail xD
04:42 -!- Stewah [n=Stewah@cpe-76-88-118-97.san.res.rr.com] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "you epic fail xD"]
04:42 <BabyBug> =x
04:42 -!- Stewah [n=Stewah@cpe-76-88-118-97.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
04:42 <BabyBug> =P
04:42 <Stewah> BabyBug: stop flirting with me!
04:42 <Lucifer> #kick BabyBug for the hell of it
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04:43 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: (12:53:55) sinewav: ok, I'm making sounds for arma. will there e stereo support for game sounds in 0.3?
04:43 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: yes, yes, jeez, man, pay attention
04:43 <Lucifer> I answered his question here and on the forums :)
04:43 * BabyBug growls
04:43 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: LOL /me is an idiot
04:44 <BabyBug> I would kick Lucifer if i didn't have a fear of him removing my ability to do so ='(
04:44 <Lucifer> heh
04:44 <BabyBug> power abuser!
04:44 <Genki> I would do it
04:44 <Genki> tthen I'd get banned though
04:44 <Lucifer> before I had OP, I once talked guru3 into making me an OP so I could kick luke-jr
04:44 <Stewah> Pfft
04:44 <Lucifer> then I kicked guru3
04:44 <Genki> lol
04:44 <Stewah> being banned is overrated
04:44 <BabyBug> #kick Lucifer then you deserve this!
04:44 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "then you deserve this!"]
04:44 <ct|kyle> lol
04:44 -!- Lucifer [n=satan@75-13-83-46.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
04:44 * BabyBug hides behind Genki
04:45 <BabyBug> Genki don't move dear..
04:45 * Stewah hides behind Lucifer
04:45 * Lucifer considers kicking Genki so he can get to BabyBug
04:45 <Stewah> Haha!
04:45 <BabyBug> lol
04:45 <Stewah> He won't kick me to get to you though! :D
04:45 * BabyBug drags Stewah infront of Genki
04:46 <Stewah> D:
04:46 <Lucifer> #kick Stewah pre-emptive strike
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04:46 <ct|kyle> lol
04:46 -!- Stewah [n=Stewah@cpe-76-88-118-97.san.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
04:46 <Genki> O.o
04:46 <Stewah> I totally saw that coming >.>
04:46 <Lucifer> am I getting that predictable?
04:46 * Stewah hides behind luke-jr
04:46 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you always have been that predictable
04:46 <Lucifer> #kick mkzelda missed!
04:46 <Stewah> Yeah Lucifer pretty much everyone is
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04:46 <Lucifer> haha, nobody saw that coming
04:46 * Lucifer smiles
04:46 <BabyBug> i did!
04:47 <Stewah> Lucifer: I knew you were going to do something that you would say people couldn't have predicted
04:47 <Stewah> Just to prove that you would be unpredictable
04:47 -!- SageLord [i=46881863@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8cdd6cac5d98dc4a] has joined #armagetron
04:47 <Stewah> oh shit.
04:47 <Stewah> SAGE
04:47 * Lucifer narrowly represses the urge to kick SageLord, just to be even more unpredictable
04:48 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you had that same urge?! lol
04:48 <Stewah> I say go for it
04:48 <SageLord> O_o
04:48 <BabyBug> you entered at a bad time SageLord =)
04:48 <Stewah> It's not like he's worth anything anyways
04:48 <SageLord> haha, whats going on? :S
04:48 <Stewah> :D
04:48 <BabyBug> Lucifer is abusing #kick
04:48 <Stewah> it's a "We hate SageLord" conference
04:48 <Lucifer> it's a lover's quarrel between me and a fat, hairy old man pretending to be an internet lesbian
04:48 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: #ban him then :P
04:48 <SageLord> haha
04:48 <BabyBug> bisexual!
04:49 <BabyBug> not fricken lesbian ><
04:49 <BabyBug> zeesh
04:49 <Stewah> BabyBug: You are a complete lesbian
04:49 <ct|kyle> bi's wich are lesbieans
04:49 <Stewah> BabyBug: only happening once with a guy = lesbian
04:49 <Lucifer> http://www.davefancella.com/ik.JPG
04:49 <Genki> lucifer would you love me if I was a lesbian?
04:50 <BabyBug> Stewah, it's happened far more than once with a guy =P
04:50 <Genki> :(
04:50 <Stewah> Then you lied to me!
04:50 <Lucifer> Genki: you would have to be at least 18 for me to consider answering that question
04:50 <Stewah> Genki: I'm sure he'd love any girl if they were a lesbian
04:50 <Genki> haha
04:50 <BabyBug> i'd love you Genki!
04:50 <Genki> yey!
04:50 <Genki> I'd be loved!
04:50 <Stewah> BabyBug: HA! WE KNEW YOU WERE LESBIAN!
04:51 <BabyBug> Stewah, uhh...you're a fool
04:51 <ct|kyle> Genki: that means you need to come back on pot day for an answer :P
04:51 <Stewah> :D
04:51 <Lucifer> she was a lesbian until she met me
04:51 <Lucifer> now she's asexual
04:51 <Genki> ct|kyle: yeah like 3 months
04:51 <Genki> woo!
04:51 <Genki> I'm a worm!
04:52 * BabyBug would rather be a worm than a gnome
04:52 <Stewah> I'm a....
04:52 <Stewah> baby?
04:52 <Genki> gross
04:52 <Stewah> D:
04:52 <Stewah> I know! D:
04:52 <Genki> dolly is way too old for you then
04:54 <Genki> so I know one of you wants to admin the df
04:54 <Genki> T.T
04:54 <Genki> just record the scores
04:55 <Stewah> Recording scores = admining now? D:
04:56 <Genki> you gotta call seal or no seal too T.T
04:56 <BabyBug> hey Lucifer i just realised why i think that woman looks odd! She looks like she has rabbit teeth!
04:56 <Genki> lmao
04:56 <Lucifer> I'm sure there's a way that rabbit teeth are sexy
04:57 <BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy xD
04:57 <Genki> *plugs ears* lalalalalalalala
04:57 <madmax> someone needs to start adding quotes
04:57 <BabyBug> hrmm...genki isn't that open? =P
04:58 <Genki> Lucifer wouldn't like my response
04:58 <Genki> so I went with the one that wouldn't get me kicked
04:58 <BabyBug> what would you responce be? =P
04:58 <BabyBug> he won't kick you
04:58 <BabyBug> i have a hold over him
04:58 <Genki> nevar! I will not be tricked!
04:58 <Genki> xD
04:58 <Lucifer> #quote add <BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy
04:58 <BabyBug> i promise he wont kick you!
04:58 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded. Quote #87 added.
04:58 <Genki> lol
04:58 <Lucifer> she's got no hold over me
04:59 <Genki> >.<
04:59 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yeh right
04:59 <Genki> he's gonna kill me
04:59 <Lucifer> but in general, it's not funny to kick someone too often
04:59 <Stewah> BabyBug: Genki is more open than I am! D:
04:59 <BabyBug> he wont
04:59 <BabyBug> Stewah, you're pretty open, you're just a cryptic git
04:59 <Genki> stewah: I don't know about that I saw your IRC chats
04:59 <BabyBug> Lucifer doesn't care about anything though \o/
04:59 <Stewah> lol
04:59 <Stewah> Genki: which ones?
04:59 <BabyBug> so Genki...before we completely forget what we're talking about...what would your response be? =P
05:00 <BabyBug> (i don't let things go) :P
05:00 <Genki> stewah: dunno just a few of the less dirty ones
05:00 <Stewah> Cause I have different levels of open with different people
05:00 <Stewah> lol
05:01 <Genki> I -was- gonna say that it's sexy if you know how to use them, but now that I think about it, it's less dirty than I thought
05:01 <Stewah> O.o
05:01 <Genki> stewah: was with dolleh and metal I believe
05:01 <BabyBug> ...
05:01 <Stewah> LoL
05:01 <Genki> shit, idk the score
05:01 <Stewah> That would be pretty fun lol
05:01 <Stewah> BabyBug: people keep saying I'm cryptic D:
05:01 <Lucifer> Genki: that's not terribly dirty
05:01 <Lucifer> I've said dirtier things without Lucifer kicking me
05:02 <Genki> Lucifer: I know, but I never know when you're gonna ban me
05:02 <Stewah> Who else thinks I'm cryptic? >.>
05:02 <BabyBug> Genki, i'll always unban you <3 =P
05:02 <Genki> xD
05:02 <Stewah> lol
05:02 <Stewah> BabyBug: what about me? >.>
05:02 <Stewah> lol
05:02 <BabyBug> Stewah, i don't care about you =P
05:02 <Stewah> I knew it! D:
05:02 <Stewah> I knew I shouldn't have told you my secrets >.>
05:02 <Stewah> lol
05:03 <Genki> you know, someone just said "it's too loose" on the df war (they're playing loose to prevent seals) bad time to go back to watching
05:03 <BabyBug> <-- Is just really really nosey
05:03 <BabyBug> Stewah, just ask Flex, he'll tell you how nosey i am =P
05:03 <Stewah> <.<
05:03 <Genki> flex?
05:03 <Stewah> I think I can tell >.>
05:03 <Genki> x flex?
05:03 <BabyBug> yes x flex (the numnut)
05:04 <Genki> heh
05:04 <Stewah> the gay one? D:
05:04 <Genki> the one with the hairy ass
05:04 <BabyBug> and complete and utter prick
05:04 <Stewah> lol
05:04 <Lucifer> you guys need to be more flex-ible
05:04 <Genki> xD
05:04 <BabyBug> i'm plenty flexible and have the pictures to prove it! =P
05:05 <Lucifer> but you don't hav ea picture to prove you're 18?
05:05 <Genki> me or bug?
05:05 <Genki> O.o
05:05 <GodTodd> split her open and count the rings?
05:05 <GodTodd> :)
05:05 <BabyBug> Lucifer, well they're all indecent pictures Lucifer.
05:05 <Genki> Todd!
05:05 <BabyBug> So we're at the chicken and the egg scenario
05:05 <Genki> I forgot your long nickname
05:06 <GodTodd> Genki, yo
05:06 <Lucifer> his long nickname is GodToddMasterOfTheUniverse
05:06 <Genki> Mister Sir Man Todd
05:06 <Genki> or w/e
05:06 <Lucifer> no wait, that's wrong
05:06 <Lucifer> his long nickname is GodToddMasterDebaterOfTheUniverse
05:06 <Genki> xD
05:06 <GodTodd> by the power of Grayskull?
05:06 <Lucifer> no, more like "By the power of Numbskull!"
05:06 <Genki> where's DrJoeTron?
05:07 <Lucifer> he died in that earthquake
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05:07 <xfroggy> I'm not playing but i'm here people on it
05:07 <Stewah> hey, does anyone know of any good movies that I can watch?
05:07 <Genki> choke
05:07 <BabyBug> seven pounds
05:07 <Lucifer> BabyBug has some home movies for you
05:07 <Stewah> Genki: no pornos
05:07 <Genki> it's not a porno
05:08 <xfroggy> genki's homemade adventures
05:08 <BabyBug> and neither was my suggestion
05:08 <Genki> it's about sex.... addiction >.>
05:08 <madmax> Stewah: in brugges!
05:08 <Stewah> lol
05:08 <Stewah> Hrm >.>
05:08 <Stewah> Dolley needs to see it then D:
05:08 <Stewah> lol
05:08 <BabyBug> does the sex involve choking? =P
05:08 <Genki> no, but there is some gagging
05:08 <Stewah> lol
05:08 <BabyBug> \o/
05:09 <GodTodd> no sex is complete w/o gagging
05:09 <GodTodd> ;)
05:09 <Stewah> GodTodd: what if they can't gag? >.>
05:09 <Genki> then you're not going deep enough
05:09 <xfroggy> LOL
05:09 <Stewah> Genki: No, I mean they don't have a gag reflex
05:09 <Stewah> lol
05:09 <Genki> I knew what you meant
05:09 * xfroggy checks the name of this channel again
05:10 <GodTodd> Stewah, then you keep going back to them ;)
05:10 <Stewah> xfroggy: check again
05:10 <Genki> lol
05:10 <Stewah> GodTodd: Good thing I did :P
05:10 <Lucifer> whoah, this is supposed to be a family channel
05:10 <Lucifer> and Genki is technically too young, heh
05:10 <Stewah> I'm younger than her xD
05:10 <BabyBug> she's perfectly old enough...according to the law here =D
05:11 * BabyBug invites Genki over! =D
05:11 <xfroggy> LOL
05:11 <xfroggy> oh man
05:11 <Stewah> <.<
05:11 <xfroggy> im coming also
05:11 <Lucifer> law here, too, in Texas, anyway
05:11 <Stewah> BabyBug: PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!
05:11 <BabyBug> Stewah, No
05:11 <Lucifer> but this is the internet, it'll be the FBI that comes after you
05:11 <Lucifer> and no, the FBI doesn't care about borders
05:11 <GodTodd> Stewah, it could be that you aren't "man" enough too ;)
05:11 <xfroggy> yes they do
05:11 <Stewah> lol
05:11 <xfroggy> bush is the one who doesn't care about borders
05:12 <Stewah> GodTodd, I'm plenty "man" enough :P
05:12 <GodTodd> i'll take your word for it
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05:14 * Genki does the I killed chat dance (in honor of DrJoeTron)
05:14 * BabyBug snuggles up to Genki
05:14 <Stewah> Looks like the chat just got active...
05:14 <Stewah> Erm >.>
05:15 <Stewah> BabyBug: I'll still be expecting pics...
05:15 <BabyBug> Stewah, Only Lizmatic gets pics.
05:15 <Stewah> BabyBug: I thought she only got the dirty ones
05:15 <BabyBug> I only have dirty ones...
05:16 <Stewah> Well take a non-dirty one just for me? :D
05:16 <Lucifer> you could run them through the GIMP and clean them up
05:16 <BabyBug> No
05:16 <Lucifer> yeah, take a non-dirty pick with you and your birth certificate
05:16 <Stewah> It's not like I'll want a dirty one >.>
05:16 <Lucifer> then blackout everything except your name and birthday
05:16 <Genki> I'll hold my hand in front of the screen, it'll be ok
05:16 <BabyBug> Lucifer, Why do i need to be 18 btw?
05:16 <Stewah> Genki: She would totally send you dirty ones...
05:17 <Lucifer> because then you can send us your dirty pics :)
05:17 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no ><
05:17 <Lucifer> if you're under 18, it's child pornography
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05:17 <Lucifer> and "she said she was 18" isn't a valid defense
05:17 <BabyBug> You're not getting them either way!
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05:23 <BabyBug> When either me or lucifer stops talking this channel dies =(
05:24 <Lucifer> does not
05:24 <Lucifer> I read my backbuffer, and I always see epsy having long conversations with people
05:24 <Stewah> BabyBug: you two never stop talking
05:24 <Stewah> you just talk in different channels
05:24 <Lucifer> that's so Lizmatic (hi there!) doesn't get jealous
05:25 <BabyBug> shhhh
05:25 <BabyBug> lol
05:25 <Lucifer> but if I stop talking, the channel will die
05:26 <Managed> heh, cuz ur awesomeness
05:26 <BabyBug> Well if it dies we can abolish that silly family friendly rule xD
05:26 <Managed> #si regular CTF
05:26 <@armabot> Managed: Crazy Tronners Regular CTF: Players (0/10):
05:26 <Lucifer> yeah, no sense worrying about family friendliness if nobody's saying anything
05:28 <BabyBug> When are you planning to unban ivantis? lo
05:28 <BabyBug> lol
05:30 <Managed> #list Alias
05:30 <@armabot> Managed: monologue, roulette, #lags, #noob, /me, 42, aawiki, action, add, afl, aka, armaconfig, armaservers, armasettings, arrow, as, away, babel, ball, bigbrother, bigos, bing, botsnack, bounce, brb, bug, bye, bzr, c, cafe, cat, cfg, cfg2, chainfight, chatlog, check, cheers, cinf, cink, commands, cookie, corn, crashme, crazylate, ctos, ctwf, dance, date, davestupidwebsite"rss, ddl, del, (5 more messages)
05:30 <BabyBug> there's no one to take the piss out of =(
05:31 <Stewah> O.o
05:31 <Stewah> You want to take the piss out of someone?
05:31 <Managed> #managed
05:31 <GodTodd> take or drink?
05:31 <BabyBug> Hrmm, you probably haven't heard that saying, lol
05:31 <Stewah> GodTodd: FAMILY CHANNEL!
05:31 <Stewah> lol
05:31 <BabyBug> as in wind them up, take the micky
05:31 <Managed> LOL!
05:32 <GodTodd> Stewah, which word is dirty that i said? :P
05:32 <Managed> This server sucks! I'm going home!
05:33 <Stewah> GodTodd: It was the sexual reference that made it dirty!
05:33 <Stewah> er
05:33 <GodTodd> you think drinking piss is sexual?
05:33 <Stewah> it can be
05:33 <GodTodd> you're disgusting
05:33 <BabyBug> Stewah, you have issues
05:33 <Stewah> R. Kelley thought it was
05:33 <Managed> hahahha
05:34 <Managed> "I wanna piss on you, yes i do, ill piss on you, ill pee on you" -Dave Chappelle
05:35 <Managed> When did durka leave?
05:36 <Genki> he left?
05:36 <Genki> o he did
05:37 <Managed> Jenny?
05:37 <Managed> Whassup, long time no see
05:38 <Genki> (8:11:55 PM) Durka: ok bye!!
05:38 <Genki> (8:11:58 PM) Durka left the room (quit: ).
05:38 <Genki> so a lil over an hour ago
05:38 <Genki> my time
05:38 <Stewah> What a bitch >.>
05:38 <Managed> i know, that hoe cake
05:38 <Stewah> He never talks to me anymore D:
05:38 <Managed> hah
05:38 <Genki> Managed: hey xD I don't remember you xD
05:38 <Managed> Thats cuz im in alias
05:38 <Managed> Hi, I'm Code Hunter :)
05:38 <Stewah> Genki: Do you remember me? D:
05:39 <Stewah> Oh hey, it's Code Hunter
05:39 <Genki> Stewah: who are you?
05:39 <Genki> heya code
05:39 <BabyBug> Jenny? ahhhhh far too many jenny's
05:39 <Stewah> D:
05:39 <Managed> ur bday is comin up jenny?
05:39 <Stewah> Genki: I thought we had something special D:
05:39 <Genki> Stewah: we did, but I killed it
05:39 <Genki> forgot to water it
05:39 <Stewah> D:
05:39 <Managed> looooool
05:39 <Genki> yeah 4/20 code
05:40 <Managed> noice
05:40 <Stewah> The flowers died? D:
05:40 <Genki> hmm bug?
05:40 <Genki> they always die
05:40 <Genki> same with the fish
05:40 <Genki> they don't like cake apparently
05:40 <Stewah> That's because it was a lie
05:40 <BabyBug> Genki, you've upset me...You've reminded me of my Jenny ='(
05:40 <Genki> oh noes I didn't mean to!
05:41 * Genki huggles bug
05:41 <Genki> yeah I know stew, what other kind is there?
05:41 <Stewah> The chocolate kind
05:41 <Managed> el oh el
05:41 <Genki> I like mine white
05:41 <Genki> or vanill
05:41 <Genki> a
05:42 <Genki> how about a carrot cake?
05:42 <Stewah> Genki: Always going for the white ones?
05:42 <Genki> always
05:42 <Managed> rofl so racist!
05:43 <Lucifer> no, it's Cantcode Hunter
05:43 <BabyBug> OH! It's the numnut you were telling me about
05:43 <Managed> #si -v vps
05:43 <@armabot> Managed: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “vps” at the moment, sorry.
05:43 <Managed> Dorka took his vps servers down?
05:44 <Genki> he broke it
05:44 <Managed> What a losah
05:44 <Genki> yeah I know
05:44 <Genki> at least he said bye
05:44 <Managed> Lucifer that made no since!
05:44 <Genki> before he left
05:44 <BabyBug> Genki, he fixed it =)
05:44 <BabyBug> He then turned it off...and left =P
05:45 <Managed> BabyBug, why would he turn it off :( I wanted to test it
05:45 <Managed> See how gut mah ping es
05:45 <Lucifer> Durka can't get anything turned on and then kept on
05:45 <BabyBug> How the hell am i meant to knwo?
05:45 <Managed> LOL!
05:45 <Managed> Not even you luci?
05:45 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you're in a rather insulting mood today
05:45 <BabyBug> The only thing different is you have your kids with you! =P
05:45 <Genki> he's actually being quite nice today
05:45 <Genki> xD
05:45 <Managed> Luci has been taking menstral pillz all day~!
05:45 <Lucifer> BabyBug: and this is different from every other day in what way?
05:46 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you're usually a -little- kinger
05:46 <BabyBug> kinder*
05:46 <Lucifer> yeah, but see, Durka and I have this thing going where we never say anything nice to/about each other
05:46 <Lucifer> and we drop random mean comments about each other in various conversations
05:47 <Managed> lol sounds fun
05:47 <Lucifer> we really like each other, we just also like to trash-talk each other
05:47 <BabyBug> can't you two act like grown men? =P
05:47 <Lucifer> we are acting like grown men....
05:47 <Managed> =o
05:47 <BabyBug> real men hug and don't trash talk!
05:47 <Managed> ew
05:47 <Genki> real men wear pink
05:47 <Lucifer> oh, hmmmmmm
05:47 * Lucifer hugs dlh
05:47 <BabyBug> yes they do!
05:47 <Managed> BabyBug: What world are you living in? oO
05:47 <BabyBug> pink rox! \o/
05:47 <Managed> xD
05:47 <Managed> rofl
05:48 <BabyBug> Managed, the real one? =P
05:48 <BabyBug> (The Welsh one)
05:48 * dlh awkwardly pats Lucifer on the back during hug
05:48 <Managed> #si ds
05:48 <@armabot> Managed: ~|DS|~'s TeamSumoBar: Players (0/16):
05:48 <Managed> #si ww
05:48 <@armabot> Managed: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ww” at the moment, sorry.
05:49 <Managed> ww servers sux!
05:49 -!- xfroggy [n=user@unaffiliated/xfroggy] has quit []
05:51 <Managed> #weather 404
05:51 <@armabot> Managed: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
05:51 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
05:51 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 57.6°F (10:50 PM CST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 51.8°F. Pressure: 30.24 in 1023.9 hPa (Rising).
05:51 <Managed> #weather 30301
05:51 <@armabot> Managed: The current temperature in Buckhead: Pharr/Peachtree, Atlanta, Georgia is 37.4°F (11:51 PM EST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.18 in 1021.9 hPa (Falling).
05:51 <BabyBug> #g 4C in F
05:51 <@armabot> BabyBug: 4 degrees Celsius = 39.2 degrees Fahrenheit
05:51 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-193-190-45.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #armagetron
05:51 <dlh> #weather 02215
05:52 <@armabot> dlh: The current temperature in Central Square, Cambridge, Massachusetts is 19.2°F (11:50 PM EST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027.3 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 3 am Sunday to midnight EST Sunday night...
05:52 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
05:52 <@armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Crooked Lane, Plano, Texas is 48.0°F (10:52 PM CST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Windchill: 48.2°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Rising).
05:52 <Managed> damn buddy, stay warm dlh
05:52 <GodTodd> dangit, i don't win :/
05:52 <Stewah> La Jolla, CA / Clear / 55°F 13°C / Humidity: 36% / Wind: SE at 2 mph
05:52 <sinewav> #weather 60130
05:52 <Lucifer> in January, do you win for being coldest, or warmest?
05:52 <@armabot> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is 20.3°F (10:52 PM CST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling).
05:52 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
05:52 <GodTodd> warmest
05:52 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 22.8°F (11:52 PM EST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 12.2°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008.0 hPa (Falling).
05:52 <Managed> coldest!
05:52 <Lucifer> so I'm winning, so far?
05:52 <sinewav> I lose big time
05:52 <GodTodd> yep
05:53 <Stewah> #weather 92037
05:53 * Lucifer loves Austin
05:53 <@armabot> Stewah: The current temperature in La Jolla Shores, La Jolla, California is 54.1°F (8:50 PM PST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising). High surf advisory in effect until 2 PM PST Monday...
05:53 <GodTodd> i can't wait 'til 70 on thursday :)
05:53 <Genki> #weather 85747
05:53 <dlh> I'm losing the most? :(
05:53 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Overlook at Del Lago, Vail, Arizona is 58.8°F (9:41 PM MST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Rising).
05:53 <Managed> godamn lol
05:53 <sinewav> Lucifer: I have an idea about cycle sounds.
05:53 <Stewah> #weather 92109
05:53 <Lucifer> awwww, Genki beat me
05:53 <sinewav> wanna hear?
05:53 <@armabot> Stewah: The current temperature in San Diego, West Mission Valley, San Diego, California is 55.0°F (8:49 PM PST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising). High surf advisory in effect until 2 PM PST Monday...
05:53 <Stewah> damn
05:53 <Genki> wait am I winning?
05:53 <Genki> or losing?
05:53 <Lucifer> winning
05:53 <Stewah> Winning
05:53 <Genki> woo
05:53 <BabyBug> losing
05:53 <Lucifer> I had 57.something
05:53 <Genki> heh
05:53 <Genki> go arizona!
05:53 <Genki> lol
05:54 <Lucifer> sinewav: spill it
05:54 <ct|kyle> i'm winning on coldest wind chill :P
05:54 * BabyBug needs to sort out her sleep pattern so she's not awake when all the americans are ><
05:54 <Genki> lol
05:54 <Stewah> BabyBug: Learn about your weather!
05:54 <Genki> but bug I'm american :(
05:54 <Stewah> lol
05:54 <sinewav> I thought maybe the cycle engine sound could be changed the same way player colors are, in player settings.
05:54 <BabyBug> Genki, you're an exception!
05:54 <Lucifer> #weather Wales
05:54 <Genki> yey!
05:54 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
05:54 <Genki> xD
05:54 <ct|kyle> #weather Wales, uk
05:54 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Sheffield, United Kingdom is 39.0°F (4:54 AM GMT on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 35.6°F. Windchill: 35.6°F. Pressure: 29.26 in 990.7 hPa (Steady).
05:55 <Lucifer> sinewav: something like that is on the list, but it won't be happening anytime soon
05:55 <BabyBug> Sheffield is not in Wales!
05:55 <sinewav> got it!
05:55 <Lucifer> the reason is because it's tied up in the idea of skinning cycles, and having cycle resources that players could reference as being "their" cycle
05:55 <BabyBug> #weather Cardiff, UK
05:55 <Genki> #weather 01257
05:55 <@armabot> BabyBug: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
05:55 <BabyBug> ><
05:55 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Otis Wood Lands, Otis, Massachusetts is 9.9°F (11:55 PM EST on January 17, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 10.4°F. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026.3 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from midnight tonight to 6 PM EST Sunday...
05:56 <Genki> lol
05:56 <sinewav> Lucifer: I've got 3 new engines and 3 new explosions. I should have many more sounds in a few weeks
05:56 <Lucifer> we could probably do something where we ship 5-10 different cycle sounds with the game and do something more or less the same as color,
05:56 <Lucifer> where what we send over the network is a small chunk of information
05:56 <Managed> Luci get me a invisi bike
05:56 <Managed> xD
05:56 <sinewav> yeayes yes
05:56 <BabyBug> When is someone going to stop sparks absolutely killing the FPS =(
05:57 <Lucifer> BabyBug: NEVER!
05:57 <Managed> sparx sux
05:57 <Lucifer> actually, the experimental sparks in the trunk do better, iirc
05:57 <Managed> i turn all of it off, my fps drops so badly
05:57 <Lucifer> except that they never get removed, so they stay there forever
05:57 <BabyBug> (now that her ftgl bug is fixed she has something else to complain about)
05:57 <Lucifer> and after a few minutes fps drop is much worse
05:57 <Lucifer> but it's promising, anyway, whenever I can get back to it
05:58 <Lucifer> and of course it looks more like a shower of sparks than anything else, heh
05:58 <sinewav> I never dug the sparks. I don't know why.
05:58 * Lucifer always thought the sparks were one of the coolest parts of the game
05:58 <BabyBug> the explosions needs work!
05:58 <Managed> oh yes indeed
05:59 <Lucifer> yeah
05:59 <Managed> and sounds, .3.0 sounds aint cuttin it
05:59 <Lucifer> I want to make the default explosion just like the praxis explosion in Star Trek 6
05:59 <Managed> i like the .2.8 sounds bettah
05:59 <BabyBug> The explosion should just be the wall that disappears all shattered up in the air and doing a little dance
05:59 <Lucifer> only with particles the shoot straight up, and a circle of light that fires out along the floor
05:59 <Managed> ooo sounds nice
06:00 <sinewav> Anyone remember the glTron explosion?
06:00 <Lucifer> isn't it a rip of the movie?
06:00 <BabyBug> THat'll hurt the FPS when you torpedo on fortress...
06:00 <Lucifer> with cycle parts falling all over the place?
06:00 <Managed> Tron 2 is coming out, I heard?
06:00 <Lucifer> BabyBug: the particle system is *fast*
06:00 <Managed> That will set this game off.
06:00 <sinewav> kind of, but the point is that it's a png.
06:00 <Lucifer> it just isn't yet integrated into the game, heh
06:00 <BabyBug> Lucifer, no idea, i haven't seen the movie
06:00 <Managed> Tron 2 is coming out this year, search google for the trailer.
06:01 <BabyBug> but if i thought of it, and the movie thought of it, then the game should have it!
06:01 <Lucifer> I want a dramatic explosion, like something Spielberg would put in his movie
06:01 <BabyBug> nooooooooooooooo
06:01 <BabyBug> You can't have a dramtic explosion and only have 2d maps
06:01 <BabyBug> that just doesn't work!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <Managed> oh brother
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:01 <Managed> moving on...
06:01 <BabyBug> can not!
06:01 <Lucifer> can too
06:02 <BabyBug> can not!
06:02 <Lucifer> can too
06:02 <BabyBug> can not!
06:02 * Managed slaps both of you with sock
06:02 <Lucifer> can too
06:02 <BabyBug> can not!
06:02 <Lucifer> can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too can too
06:03 <BabyBug> can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not! can not!
06:03 * Managed sighs u two are good at this
06:03 <Lucifer> I may have met my match
06:03 <BabyBug> lol
06:04 <GodTodd> can't not too
06:04 <Managed> what were you guys fighting over again? =)
06:04 <BabyBug> Having 2d maps and dramtic explosions together
06:04 <BabyBug> arma should have 3d maps before dramtic explosions
06:04 <Lucifer> which would work very nicely
06:05 <BabyBug> it would not work nicely :@
06:05 <Lucifer> well, technically, I should first finish 0.3.1, then do the sound engine, then do the media player, then sparks and explosions
06:05 <BabyBug> media player?
06:05 <Lucifer> that's assuming I don't get distracted somewhere along the way working on events and guis
06:05 <Lucifer> yes, media player
06:05 <BabyBug> explain
06:05 <Lucifer> oh yeah, and teamspeak thrown in there somewhere
06:05 <Lucifer> well, you know, in-game music player
06:05 <Managed> I think tron should have a built in clan system
06:05 <BabyBug> Oh right
06:05 <BabyBug> cool =)
06:05 <Lucifer> Managed: that's the stupidest idea ever
06:06 <BabyBug> Lucifer, considering most of the devs hate clans, that's never going to happen
06:06 <Managed> Not really, for us that like clans.
06:06 <BabyBug> But besides that, it's a crap idea
06:06 <Managed> Why do you hate clans?
06:06 <Managed> Clans is what makes the game more interesting
06:06 <Managed> This game would suck without compitition against rival clans xD
06:06 <BabyBug> Because you can have tron clan cock fights?
06:06 <Managed> yep
06:06 <Lucifer> er, collecting elitists together so they can insist on always telling us they have the biggest penises in the game makes it more interesting?
06:07 <Managed> nice
06:07 <BabyBug> We think the same! =P
06:07 <Lucifer> then why are there so many people that love the game and aren't in clans?
06:07 <Managed> actually, many have been in a clan once in their tron career ;)
06:07 <Lucifer> heh, many more have not
06:08 <Managed> I've played this game since 2004, I only see a couple without tags ;)
06:08 <Lucifer> heh, you are so full of shit
06:08 <Managed> How so?
06:08 <Lucifer> in 2004, 95% of players weren't in clans
06:08 <Lucifer> the only clans around were .bot, SP, and maybe one or two others
06:08 <Managed> well thats because it was running .2.6 servers
06:08 <Managed> xD
06:09 <Lucifer> of course, I did play on servers that tended to poll-kick klanners because of their elitist tripe
06:10 <Lucifer> if I had a nickel for every time a klan member came in to a server, talked a bunch of trash about how good they are and how good their clan is, and then got pwned round after round, match after match, I wouldn't *need* a job
06:10 <Managed> I do agree with that one ^^
06:10 <Managed> Clans do have a lot of drama too, but that makes the game so much better
06:11 <Lucifer> I kind of like the lack of drama for those of us who don't do the clan thing
06:11 <Lucifer> lets us focus more on playing the game and having fun :)
06:11 <BabyBug> Managed, considering the last bit of clan "drama" almost got the TST cancelled... it doesn't make the game better =P
06:12 <Managed> We should. This game is far too serious now. Clans make this game their life
06:12 <Managed> tron has changed so much, that's why i hardly ever go on
06:12 <Lucifer> that's funny, I thought the biggest complaint was that the game hasn't changed at all
06:12 <Managed> High Rubber is my favorite game type, now people call you noob for killin them
06:12 <Lucifer> (aka "When's the next version coming out?")
06:12 <Lucifer> ah, maybe that's your problem then
06:12 * BabyBug loves asking that question!
06:12 <Lucifer> high rubber servers attract the most smegheads ;)
06:13 <Managed> xD
06:13 <Lucifer> it's easy to think you're doing good when it's nearly impossible to die
06:13 <Managed> well, sumo has become another game type i am interested in
06:13 * Lucifer gets poll-kicked from high rubber servers for surviving
06:13 <Managed> camping?
06:13 <Managed> xD
06:13 <Lucifer> no
06:13 <Lucifer> look, when someone boxes you in, you maze until the wall retracts, right?
06:13 <Lucifer> on a high rubber server, you can do that in really tight boxes
06:13 <Managed> Well, this is what I mean by the game changing
06:13 <Managed> It used to be ok
06:14 <Managed> now people frown upon it
06:14 * Genki gets kicked for trying to get with everyone.... and everything
06:14 <Lucifer> hell, I've always been kicked from high rubber servers for that
06:14 <Managed> same goes with plugging, cornering, etc
06:14 * BabyBug drags Genki under the covers
06:14 <Lucifer> except for back when Breakfast was considered high rubber, heh
06:14 <Genki> :O
06:14 <Genki> happy time!
06:14 <BabyBug> open mouth? *slips in the tongue*
06:14 <sinewav> what is "plugging" and "cornering"?
06:14 <Lucifer> you guys do your cybering somewhere else
06:14 <Managed> Whose gonna bring armagoshdarn back? I loved that server, and who destroyed lobster cage?! >:|
06:15 <Lucifer> they're not coming back
06:15 <sinewav> armagoshdarn is back
06:15 <Managed> no, i made that server, and killed it
06:15 <Managed> too laggy
06:15 <sinewav> oh
06:15 <Managed> not the origional, but the one that was recently up
06:15 <Managed> Veremont created origional
06:15 <Managed> Who owned lobster cage tho?
06:15 * Lucifer thinks he's going to rent a dedicated server when he starts getting paid again and bring back Breakfast in Hell
06:15 <Managed> Wasnt it you, luci?
06:16 <Lucifer> DrJoeTron
06:16 <Managed> oh ya
06:16 <Managed> damn i forgot him
06:16 <Managed> buy from the vps host that durka is using
06:16 <Lucifer> fuck that, I'll rent a whole box
06:16 <Managed> durka told me its like $10/month from fsckvps.com
06:16 <Lucifer> I also have a webserver, svn server, etc to put on there
06:16 <Managed> looool
06:16 <Managed> lucky you, rich boy
06:17 <Lucifer> or I'll build the server and rent the space
06:17 * Lucifer is already planning to spend money he hasn't earned yet
06:17 <Managed> heh
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06:17 <Managed> Luci, where u ever in a clan? be honest
06:17 <Lucifer> no
06:17 <Lucifer> I was never in a clan
06:17 <Lucifer> and I never will be in a clan
06:17 <Managed> I thought u were in SP, cuz you hate them so much
06:18 <Lucifer> no
06:18 <BabyBug> Lucifer, svn? Booo!
06:18 <BabyBug> bzr \o/'
06:18 <Genki> nuuu!
06:18 <Lucifer> my feelings for SP developed back in my breakfast days
06:18 <Genki> sexy time!
06:18 <Managed> ah
06:18 <Lucifer> they were the ones that most talked trash, then got killed, blamed it on lag, and complained the rubber was too low
06:18 <Lucifer> rubber was 8, it was almost too high
06:19 <Managed> hehe
06:19 <Managed> luci do you play nowadays?
06:19 <Lucifer> every now and then
06:19 <Managed> what servers do u like?
06:19 <Lucifer> oh shit, I need to go to the store and break this 10 so I can give my kid money for his teeth
06:19 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: almost too high, 8 is too high
06:19 <Managed> his teeth?
06:20 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: it was different in 0.2.6
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06:20 <Genki> nooooo!
06:20 <Genki> come back!
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06:20 <Genki> T.T
06:20 <Managed> yah, .2.6 got me so mad
06:20 <ct|kyle> lol Genki
06:20 <Genki> yey!
06:20 <Managed> people could crash it eeasily
06:20 <Genki> you're back
06:20 <Genki> I cried
06:20 <Genki> kyle laughed
06:21 <BabyBug> haha
06:21 * BabyBug castrates ct|kyle
06:21 <Managed> =o
06:21 * Managed runs
06:22 <ct|kyle> and BabyBug says she is not mean :'(
06:22 <BabyBug> i said that?
06:22 <Managed> tee heet
06:22 <Genki> xD
06:22 * BabyBug is an evil bitch..... to men
06:22 <Managed> awww
06:22 <Managed> all men dont gotta be treated that way.
06:23 <Managed> are u a man hater? like this chick that works with me. She likes penis, but hates guys
06:23 <Managed> how funny
06:23 <BabyBug> I'm a typical guy hater
06:23 <Managed> bad relationship(s)?
06:24 <Genki> I uhh... like... guys >.>
06:24 <Managed> LOL!
06:24 <Managed> i hope so jenny =)
06:24 <Stewah> Genki: You don't like me! D:
06:24 <BabyBug> No not bad relationships...I hate guys which are like...guys...
06:24 <BabyBug> I love my bf though \o/
06:24 <Genki> stewah: you're a boy
06:24 <Stewah> Lol
06:24 <Managed> HAHAHA
06:24 <Stewah> That hurts...
06:24 <Stewah> That hurts bad...
06:24 <Genki> I know
06:24 <Genki> I'm sorry
06:24 <Stewah> No you aren't
06:24 <Managed> rofl
06:24 <Genki> I'm sorry I meant it
06:24 <Managed> kiss and make up!
06:25 <Managed> man, i cant wait to get my taxes back
06:25 <Managed> woot
06:25 <Managed> isnt obama getting sworn in tomorrow?
06:25 <Stewah> no
06:25 <Stewah> Tuesday
06:25 <Managed> oh yahhhh!
06:26 <Managed> after mlkjr day
06:26 <Managed> how nice
06:26 <BabyBug> lawl, you lot which such retards when he got elected
06:26 <wireddd> yeah, now get to be screwed over by the guy with a (D) in front of his name instead of (R)
06:26 <Managed> repeat that sentence BabyBug
06:26 <Managed> I did not understand that crazy sentence
06:26 <BabyBug> s/which/were/
06:26 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I did no elect him
06:27 <ct|kyle> not*
06:27 <Managed> especially with the noob form of "lol"
06:27 <Managed> ct|kyle, neither did I
06:27 <Managed> He paid the alians to let him win!
06:27 <Managed> xD
06:27 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, It's not the fact he got elected, it's everything the press said which is exactly why everyone hates america
06:27 <ct|kyle> i voted for the one with the L in front
06:28 <Managed> OOO ME TOO!
06:28 <Managed> BabyBug, I love america.
06:28 <Managed> I moved from Australia, and I love it here.
06:28 <BabyBug> besides retards*
06:28 <BabyBug> Even sane americans hate america
06:28 <Managed> I've been to Germany, Canada, Brazil, and Australia. Nothing like it here
06:28 <ct|kyle> Americans are stupid
06:29 <Managed> Americans, not America
06:29 <Genki> I know I am
06:29 <BabyBug> Genki, no you're not!
06:29 <Genki> nah wire knows that I am
06:29 <Genki> and so does stew
06:29 <Genki> :]
06:29 <Managed> looool
06:29 <wireddd> she isn't but he mother is
06:29 <wireddd> *her
06:29 <Managed> :o
06:29 <Stewah> LoL
06:29 <Genki> :O
06:29 <BabyBug> no you're not! ><
06:29 <Managed> ohhh
06:29 <Managed> damn
06:29 <Genki> don't be talking about my momma!
06:29 <Stewah> wireddd: lol, did something happen?
06:30 <Managed> i think gneki is going to slap you through the puter screen!
06:30 <wireddd> what? I was being nice
06:30 <Genki> yeah she put a tv-14 block on the tv
06:30 <Managed> LOL!
06:30 <Stewah> O.o
06:30 <Managed> poor u
06:30 <wireddd> her brother is 15....
06:30 <Managed> cant even watch spongebob
06:30 <Stewah> Yeah I was about to ask if it was for her brother xD
06:30 <Genki> it's ok
06:30 <Genki> she didn't put a limit on how many PPV movies I could order
06:30 <Managed> lolol
06:31 <Managed> Genki: Skinimax?
06:31 <Genki> nah
06:31 <Managed> xD
06:31 <Genki> that's what the internet is for
06:31 <Managed> #si vcl
06:31 <@armabot> Managed: -=VcL.High Rubber: Players (0/10):
06:31 <Genki> #si inmypants
06:32 <@armabot> Genki: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “inmypants” at the moment, sorry.
06:32 <Managed> ew
06:32 <Genki> hmm
06:32 <Managed> gross
06:32 <Managed> #me
06:32 <Genki> bug should be there >.>
06:32 <Managed> gasp!
06:32 * BabyBug wants to be there =D
06:32 <Genki> #weather 30096
06:32 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Berkeley Lake @ Parrot Pointe, Berkeley Lake, Georgia is 37.6°F (12:32 AM EST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 23.0°F. Windchill: 37.4°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018.5 hPa (Falling).
06:32 <Managed> u live in ga?
06:32 <Genki> ha I still win
06:32 <Managed> oO
06:32 <Genki> no
06:32 <Managed> u suck!
06:32 <Genki> :(
06:32 <Managed> i kid i kid!
06:32 <Genki> wire does!
06:33 <Managed> oh!
06:33 <wireddd> so she will soon
06:33 <Genki> lies
06:33 <Managed> lolol
06:33 <Managed> roflroflrofl
06:33 <ct|kyle> #armaservers
06:33 <@armabot> ct|kyle: This data is 47 seconds old; {PinkTomato} Team Sumo Server (10/16), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (9/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (8/10), Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud) (7/8), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (6/16), {Delicious Desserts} High Rubber (5/10), Wild West =CTF Shooting= (4/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (4/12), WILDCAT (3/8), FRO (1 more message)
06:33 <ct|kyle> #armaplayers
06:33 <Managed> SPAM!
06:33 <Managed> here it comes
06:34 <Managed> where is it kyle?
06:34 <Managed> armabots a bit late
06:34 <Managed> armabot: NooB!
06:34 <ct|kyle> #help armaplayers
06:34 <BabyBug> Managed, you epic fail
06:34 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Error: There is no command "armaplayers".
06:34 <ct|kyle> :P
06:34 <Managed> rly?
06:34 <Managed> aww
06:35 <Managed> #kill-masterserver-1thru4
06:35 <Managed> #quit
06:35 <@armabot> Managed: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
06:35 <BabyBug> 2 strikes..
06:35 <Managed> xD
06:35 <BabyBug> one more left...
06:35 <ct|kyle> then he'll be a turkey
06:35 <Managed> gobble gobble
06:35 <BabyBug> castrated turkey*
06:36 <Managed> teeheet
06:36 <BabyBug> i'm running out of shelf space...
06:36 <Managed> for your chopped off human head collection?
06:36 <BabyBug> nooo...my castration collection
06:36 <Managed> or from your penis collection?
06:36 <Managed> i see
06:37 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: maybe you'll have to start being nice to men
06:37 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, Noooooo Neva!
06:37 * Managed thinks babybug needs a therapist
06:37 * Genki thinks.....
06:37 <wireddd> thinks babybug needs a girlfriend
06:37 <Managed> hah
06:37 <Genki> I want one
06:38 <wireddd> instead of a boyfriend
06:38 <Genki> or two
06:38 <BabyBug> wireddd, i've got a fuck buddy...does that count? =P
06:38 <wireddd> Genki: you don't want anything long term
06:38 <Genki> oh yeah
06:38 <Genki> can I have bug?
06:38 <Genki> o wait
06:38 <Genki> she's taken
06:38 <Genki> nvm
06:38 <Genki> :(
06:38 <Genki> one night stand bug?
06:38 <wireddd> so are you though
06:38 <Genki> T.T
06:38 <BabyBug> Genki, nuuuuuuu, lisa would kill me =(
06:39 <Managed> lizbian wouldnt kill u!
06:39 <Genki> T.T
06:39 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: just don't tell her :P
06:39 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, trust!
06:39 <Managed> am i the only one that calls lizmatic lizbian?
06:39 <ct|kyle> 3-some lol
06:39 <Managed> i always thought she was gay...
06:39 <Managed> LOL!
06:39 <BabyBug> Oh a 3-some might work..
06:40 <Genki> yey!
06:40 <Genki> yeah yeah that works
06:40 <BabyBug> =D
06:40 <BabyBug> actually wait...
06:40 <Genki> O.O
06:40 <Managed> dont stop, this is kinda fun to watch!
06:40 <Genki> lol
06:40 <BabyBug> Genki, are you shaven or waxed? =P
06:41 <Managed> oh wow,
06:41 <Genki> don't have any :]
06:41 <BabyBug> \o/
06:41 <BabyBug> ok no need to wait xD
06:41 <Genki> yey alopecia!
06:41 <Managed> woooooooooow
06:41 <wireddd> it is nice
06:41 <Genki> luci is gonna kill me >.>
06:42 <BabyBug> nah..the content of this channel has erm..
06:42 <BabyBug> degraded...alot \o/
06:42 <Lucifer> yes, it has
06:42 <Genki> O.O
06:42 <Lucifer> #kick Genki here's to attempting to restore it
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06:42 <Managed> BabyBug Do you play tron anymore?
06:42 <Lucifer> #kick BabyBug here's to attempting to restore it
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06:42 <Stewah> Especially since BabyBug got here
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06:42 <BabyBug> =(
06:42 <ct|kyle> lol
06:42 <Stewah> lol
06:42 <Managed> heh
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06:42 <Stewah> Wow, that was good timing on my comment :D
06:42 <BabyBug> \o/
06:42 <Genki> I'll behave
06:43 <Managed> BabyBug, do you play tron? I have never heard of you oO
06:43 <BabyBug> Genki, he's a hypocrite! He usually joins in..
06:43 <Genki> jailbait remember?
06:43 <ct|kyle> Stewah: I was going to say the same :P
06:43 <Stewah> lol
06:43 <BabyBug> Managed, i do play tron
06:43 <ct|kyle> #ls BabyBug
06:43 <@armabot> ct|kyle: BabyBug has last been seen on Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!) 2 hours 52 minutes ago.
06:43 <Managed> :o
06:43 <Genki> I play too!
06:43 <Lucifer> actually, I thought I usually started it
06:43 <Managed> #ls Genki
06:43 <Stewah> I don't play! :D
06:44 <Genki> no rubber bug?
06:44 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you think you do =D
06:44 <@armabot> Managed: timed out
06:44 <Managed> hmm
06:44 <Genki> I r secret
06:44 <BabyBug> Genki, don't like rubber ;)
06:44 * Genki is shutting up
06:44 <Genki> I'm behaving luci!
06:44 <Genki> I swear!
06:44 <Lucifer> rubber is Armagetron Training Wheels
06:44 <BabyBug> behaving means a boring sex life! x)
06:44 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i think Lucifer asked to be kicked
06:44 <Managed> hahah
06:44 <Lucifer> someone should start a "normal" high rubber server called that
06:44 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you're never right about anything
06:45 <Lucifer> well, there is /msg, and other channels
06:45 <Managed> Training Wheels server?
06:45 <Managed> Sounds interesting
06:45 <Lucifer> you can just join a channel and if it didn't exist, it is created, you know
06:45 <ct|kyle> CRAZY tronners High Rubber (CYCLE_RUBBER 5)
06:45 <Managed> xD
06:45 <Lucifer> so it's not like we have to have these conversations here...... ;)
06:45 * Genki whistles innocently
06:46 <Genki> my halo is secure
06:46 <Genki> I promise
06:46 <BabyBug> little dusty though...
06:46 <wireddd> yeah, in the box under your bed
06:46 <Lucifer> you could go to #luke-jrisanasshat and let your hormones fly
06:46 <Lucifer> nobody gets censored there
06:46 <Genki> xD
06:46 <Stewah> >.>
06:46 <Genki> but
06:46 <Genki> luci
06:46 <Stewah> except for luke-jr
06:46 <Lucifer> not even luke-jr
06:46 <Genki> tthen you wouldn't be there
06:46 <Lucifer> he just gets randomly kicked
06:46 <Stewah> D:
06:46 <Genki> to keep me in line
06:46 <Managed> roflroflrofl
06:46 <BabyBug> he is there!
06:46 <Lucifer> Genki: /whois me
06:46 <Stewah> Genki: he is there lol
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06:46 <Stewah> He started it lol
06:47 <Lucifer> no, GodTodd (hi there!) started it
06:47 <Stewah> D:
06:47 <Stewah> Orly?
06:47 <Lucifer> yeah :)
06:47 <Stewah> I thought it was you after your last admin battle with luke-jr...
06:47 <Lucifer> no, it was GodTodd, after my last amin battle with luke-jr
06:47 <Stewah> I must be getting my people mixed up
06:47 <Stewah> awww
06:47 <Lucifer> yeah, you are
06:47 <Stewah> damn
06:48 <ct|kyle> i only do that after a few years of getting the info
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08:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Durka/teamsumo/express-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Durka
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11:23 <Durka> #hello
11:23 <armabot> Hello Durka :) Quote #55: "<MrBougo> Lucifer_arma: quote me!" (added by epsy at 01:30 PM, August 12, 2007)
11:26 <MrBougo> eh
11:26 <MrBougo> I really said that?
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11:36 <arrow> morning
11:41 <Durka> still the nighttime here :s
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11:47 <Durka> \o epsy
11:48 <epsy> hi
11:48 <Durka> i got it running!!
11:48 <Durka> #si twis
11:48 <armabot> Durka: .:] TwistedRats [:. Sumo: Players (2/32): dd, DDMJ (DDMJ@forums)
11:49 <epsy> :°
11:49 <epsy> :)
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13:23 * tav_ waves
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13:27 <Lizmatic> tav? who oO
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13:28 <tav> new guy
13:28 <tav> yet to play, but checking out armagetron and heard there was an irc channel
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13:29 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it definitely exists
13:30 <tav> good good, i'm not still dreaming then =)
13:32 <zmanuel> Actually, the merge of AUTHORS falsely didn't produce any conflicts this time.
13:32 <epsy> haha
13:32 <zmanuel> We definitely want a God of Clean Merges and not a God of Conflictless Merges :)
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13:33 <tav> do you guys welcome total newbies? -- i'm looking for something fun to do throughout Easter -- so was thinking that i would build up some experience over the Easter week and play regularly after that... can interested newbies survive?
13:33 <wrtlprnft> definitely
13:34 * wrtlprnft is a noob.
13:34 <wrtlprnft> already bound to an instant chat key for your convienience
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13:37 <tav> woo!!
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13:40 <zmanuel> tav: stay away from Fortress and CTF servers for a bit.
13:41 <zmanuel> They're team based, and the oldbie assholes are very trigger happy when it comes to new players not knowing what to do.
13:41 <zmanuel> It's not really that difficult not to get kicked, but it's better to first get some experience in non-team servers.
13:44 <K-Yo> #si pink
13:44 <armabot> K-Yo: {PinkTomato} ArmaServTest: Players (0/16):
13:44 <tav> zmanuel: thanks for the advice
13:46 <wrtlprnft> my client is complaining about duplicate deat sync messages…
13:48 <wrtlprnft> o_O
13:48 <wrtlprnft> and now it just crashed
13:48 <wrtlprnft> utf-8 with DEBUGLEVEL=3
13:49 <wrtlprnft> Internal Error: Internal error in virtual bool eVoteItemHarmServerControlled::DoFillFromMessage(nMessage&) in ../../src/engine/eVoter.cpp:1373 : Assertion sn_GetNetState() != nCLIENT failed
13:49 <wrtlprnft> no recording, though
13:51 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8853 /armagetronad/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:51 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8841 to 8852:
13:51 <armabot> armagetronad: (Also: finally got gWinZone.* back in sync with 0.2.8. Future merges
13:51 <armabot> armagetronad: should be possible again, yay.)
13:51 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:51 <armabot> armagetronad: r8851 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-18 01:48:12 +0100 (Sun, 18 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
13:51 <armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Applied hoop's zone rendering patch. 'tis good.
13:51 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: the complaint is normal. It says the server has a bug :)
13:51 <wrtlprnft> that was ctwf, so that might be possible :-)
13:52 <wrtlprnft> i just threw that in here in case it was importent
13:52 <wrtlprnft> *important
13:52 <zmanuel> The assertion failure is odd.
13:54 <zmanuel> I'll have a look after sports.
13:55 <wrtlprnft> have fun
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14:03 <K-Yo> hi PinkTomato
14:03 <PinkTomato> Hi K-Yo :)
14:03 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, what server will we play on (for brawl) ?
14:04 <PinkTomato> Mine
14:04 <PinkTomato> V Concord
14:05 <PinkTomato> I'm in Corn's team
14:05 <K-Yo> okay
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14:06 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, I mean, what's the name?
14:06 <K-Yo> and are rights set?
14:06 <K-Yo> (the PT Fortress?)
14:06 <oRaw> :o
14:06 <PinkTomato> Ah, It will be Fortress Brawl at the end I think
14:06 <K-Yo> hi oRaw
14:06 <PinkTomato> Yeah, I'll set it up like that,
14:06 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, okay, great :)
14:06 <oRaw> alo
14:06 <K-Yo> do you need conc and my GIDs ?
14:07 <PinkTomato> OK, and I'll need global_ids for you and concord :)
14:07 <K-Yo> or sage gave u them all?
14:07 <oRaw> lol
14:07 <K-Yo> ok
14:07 <K-Yo> :P
14:07 <K-Yo> K-Yo@ct
14:07 <PinkTomato> none from sage :)
14:07 <K-Yo> Concord@ct
14:10 <PinkTomato> What setting file is it K-Yo?
14:10 <PinkTomato> Someone also said about SVG mapping?
14:11 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, if you want SVG, you need to use sty+ct
14:11 <K-Yo> and about the setting file, i'm not sure, let me check
14:14 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, ladle settings
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14:14 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: right ok
14:28 <armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r791 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8841 to 8852:...
14:31 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: SVG_OUTPUT_ENABLE does not seem to be in my ct build ? :S
14:34 <K-Yo> hmmm
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14:52 <epsy> PinkTomato, do you know any other GID? heh
14:54 <PinkTomato> epsy: :) hehe
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14:56 <epsy> PinkTomato, #armagetron.tourneys
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16:16 <epsy> Editor's summary: -
16:16 <epsy> now that's an useful summary
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16:23 <MrBougo> eh
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17:14 <Code7> 'Morning
17:15 <madmax> greets
17:15 <Code7> #si twisted rats
17:15 <armabot> Code7: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress: Players (0/32):
17:15 <Code7> #si twisted sumo
17:16 <armabot> Code7: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “twisted sumo” at the moment, sorry.
17:16 <Code7> eh
17:16 <Code7> wheres durka when u need him
17:16 <Code7> #si -y twisted
17:16 <armabot> Code7: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “-y twisted” at the moment, sorry.
17:16 <Code7> #ls Durka
17:17 <armabot> Code7: Durka has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts} Racing II 18 hours 5 minutes ago.
17:17 <Code7> gah
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17:20 <mib_ivantis> <BabyBug> When are you planning to unban ivantis? lo
17:20 <mib_ivantis> come on, im getting bored
17:20 <mib_ivantis> Lucifer or some other op
17:21 <ct|kyle> #quoteget 87
17:21 <ct|kyle> #quote get 87
17:21 <armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
17:21 <iccleoldme> ><
17:21 <mib_ivantis> like i said before: if ivantis3 is the trouble maker, ban him, not me
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17:21 <mib_ivantis> just *ivantis3*@*
17:21 <mib_ivantis> or whatever
17:22 * BabyBug slaps ct|kyle
17:22 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that felt good compared to last night :)
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17:22 <mib_ivantis> man that is a weird ad: "Want Muslim Chats? Meet Muslim Singles Online Free- True.com®- Meet The Right One Now"
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17:24 <mib_ivantis> who is this epsy_cba???
17:24 <mib_ivantis> epsy...using mibbit...on windows...where am i?
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17:27 <BabyBug> mib_ivantis, you were banned, not your bot anyway
17:27 <mib_ivantis> huh?
17:27 <BabyBug> You were banned because of you, not your bot.
17:28 <mib_ivantis> i was?
17:28 <mib_ivantis> why?
17:28 <mib_ivantis> wudido?
17:28 <BabyBug> Hmmm, read the logs. Perhaps when you figure out why, you'll get unbanned =)
17:29 <mib_ivantis> because Lucifer has an allergy to idiots? that is why?
17:30 <mib_ivantis> a dumb reason to ban me
17:30 <mib_ivantis> (emphasis on 'me')
17:35 <mib_ivantis> #quote get 73
17:35 <armabot> mib_ivantis: Quote #73: "<Lucifer> if you don't want to nitpick, don't talk to luke-jr (hi there!)" (added by epsy at 12:52 AM, July 28, 2008)
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17:39 <ivantis2_> ...
17:39 <ivantis2_> so
17:39 <ivantis2_> any chance of me getting unbanned?
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17:40 <ivantis0> ..? what just happened?
17:45 <mib_ivantis> ..how come ivantis2_ hasnt timed out yet?
17:46 <mib_ivantis> thats weird
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17:48 <mib_ivantis> ...
17:49 <mib_ivantis> how is ivantis2_ still here? i was using Wi-Fi through my phone for irc as ivantis2_, but i turned it off. and its still here?
17:49 <mib_ivantis> ??
17:51 <K-Yo> mib_ivantis, I think there are less and less chance of you getting unbanned :P
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17:51 <K-Yo> /join #spam
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17:51 <mib_ivantis> wut is up wif dis?
17:53 <zmanuel> Gee, if you want a kick, it takes awfully long to get one on CTWF.
17:53 <madmax> no way
17:53 <BabyBug> yes it does
17:53 <BabyBug> it's bloody annoying when it's full of non grinders too
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17:54 <zmanuel> err
17:54 <zmanuel> I don't think BabyBug understood me right
17:54 <madmax> don't you mean getting yourself kicked?
17:54 <BabyBug> Oh you were being a numnut ><
17:54 <mib_ivantis> that sounds like a fun place for me
17:55 <BabyBug> None the less my statement still stands =P
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18:07 <mib_ivantis> ah now ivantis2_ leaves
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18:09 <sinewav> #Is madmax
18:11 * madmax is madmax
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18:13 <PinkTomato> #weather Aberystwyth, Wales
18:14 <sinewav> sorry max, there was a guy in sumo named madnnax and I wanted to see if it was you. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to use IRC bots
18:14 <madmax> #ls madmax
18:14 <BabyBug> lol sinewav it's #ls (L not I)
18:15 <armabot> madmax: madmax has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 24 minutes ago.
18:15 <madmax> well I was there
18:15 <madmax> hopefully 24m ago too
18:16 <sinewav> isn't there a resouce where i can learn how to use irc bots? -.- can't find one.
18:16 <BabyBug> dont think there is =x
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18:17 <madmax> armabot has lots of specific aliases...
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18:21 <Concord> #ls i_am
18:21 <armabot> Concord: i Am seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. right now.
18:31 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: that assertion failure was just wrong. 0.2.8 is affected, too, and I'm removing the assertion there. I'll propagate the fix on to utf8.
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18:37 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8854 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eVoter.cpp): Manuel Moos: Removed faulty assertion.
18:38 <K-Yo> Hey, who is not supposed to play on Brawl but can come? I need a good replacement
18:39 <epsy> armabot
18:39 <K-Yo> hmmm
18:39 <K-Yo> "but can come"
18:40 <Lizmatic> you're playing in brawl K-Yo? better quit now, losa
18:41 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r988 Removed faulty assertion....
18:41 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: did you hear BabyBug invited someone else to be with you 2 :P
18:41 <Lizmatic> ct|kyle: what?
18:42 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: she invited genki, you 2 now have a 3some
18:42 <Lizmatic> ew,
18:42 <Lizmatic> genki, ew ew ew
18:42 <ct|kyle> (hi there) Genki
18:43 -!- sebol158 [n=x-javach@eeq89.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #armagetron
18:43 <ct|kyle> oi sebol158
18:43 <Concord> oi sebo
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18:46 <ct|kyle> oi saggy
18:46 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/Ball/dodgeballtest-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
18:46 <epsy> SageLord, #armagetron.tourneys
18:47 <ct|kyle> SageLord: http://crazy-tronners.com/brawl.php]
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18:47 <epsy> SageLord2, #armagetron.tourneys
18:48 <sinewav> wow, that viewer is pretty neat
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18:49 <epsy> PinkTomato is playing right now it seems :)
18:49 <PinkTomato> :D
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18:50 <hoop> hi!
18:51 <ct|kyle> oi
18:51 <CrAsH> Good evening :D
18:51 <CrAsH> Hey kyle and hooooop
18:51 <Lizmatic> hoopje poep
18:51 <CrAsH> hey lizzy
18:51 -!- CrAsH is now known as Guest9925
18:51 <Lizmatic> hi....you
18:51 <Guest9925> #si twisted rats
18:51 <armabot> Guest9925: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress: Players (0/32):
18:51 <epsy> hoop, your GID is hoop@forums right?
18:52 <Guest9925> #si .:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo
18:52 <armabot> Guest9925: Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
18:52 <epsy> use quotes
18:52 <Guest9925> ah
18:52 <Guest9925> #si ".:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo"
18:52 <armabot> Guest9925: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress: Players (0/32):
18:52 <Guest9925> weird...
18:52 <epsy> O_o
18:54 <Guest9925> epsy have you seen cruzer or alien?
18:54 <hoop> yes epsy
18:54 <ct|kyle> #ls alien
18:54 <hoop> i've been out for a bit, is there a schedule about the fortress brawl?
18:55 <armabot> ct|kyle: ~|DS|~|Alien|~ seems to be on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo right now.
18:55 <epsy> Guest9925, they are neither on IRC nor on ICQ
18:55 <epsy> who are you?
18:55 <Guest9925> :o
18:55 <ct|kyle> .sumo
18:55 <Guest9925> imma go get alien, brb
18:55 <ct|kyle> #si open sumo
18:55 <Guest9925> i needa talk to him
18:55 <armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (8/12): (!)Simbin, F!Skyo, Kamakazi, MrJ0k3R, NayP, Nero, WTF IS A TRON, ~|DS|~|Alien|~
18:57 <Guest9925> #ls crash
18:57 <armabot> Guest9925: CrAsH has last been seen on .:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo 11 minutes ago.
18:57 <Guest9925> inacurate!
18:57 <Guest9925> jkjk
18:59 <Lizmatic> what time is brawl
18:59 <PinkTomato> 1 hour and a half ?
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19:00 <hoop> I'm lost, where do i find the fort brawl time table?
19:01 <PinkTomato> Emailed
19:01 <hoop> PinkTomato_: negative
19:02 <PinkTomato> http://rafb.net/p/hutkvB39.html
19:02 <PinkTomato> hoop ^^ , and anyone else that would like to know where they should be
19:03 <hoop> ok thanks
19:03 <epsy> bbl
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19:04 <hoop> SageLord : BUG i didnt get any email
19:04 <hoop> maybe some others?
19:07 <K-Yo> I had it
19:08 <hoop> nvm, my bad
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19:09 <hoop> bbl
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19:15 <SageLord> hoo:
19:15 <SageLord> argh
19:15 <SageLord> hoop is going to be there, right?
19:16 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: you're here?
19:16 * zmanuel has to restart the utf8 branch in bzr
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19:23 <BabyBug> why?
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19:37 <Concord> #cafe
19:37 <armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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19:44 <armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work-old] r804 Added option to leave language files as latin1 by adding a l... || [utf8-armagetronad-work-old] r803 Better test for ftgl.h: check whether individual headers are... || [utf8-armagetronad-work-old] r802 Fixed function typo.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work-old] r801 Failed check for ftgl.h is no longer fatal.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work-old] r800 With only a little bit of macros, made it
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19:58 <K-Yo> Flex, isn't luzi in ur team?
19:58 <K-Yo> he can't come
19:58 <K-Yo> * Lacrymosa (n=Lacrymos@p5484B7D7.dip.t-dialin.net) a rejoint #armagetron.tourneys
19:58 <K-Yo> <Lacrymosa> hi there, can somebody tell SageLord that I can't make it for the Brawl today? kkthxbye
19:58 <K-Yo> * Lacrymosa (n=Lacrymos@p5484B7D7.dip.t-dialin.net) a quitté #armagetron.tourneys
19:58 <Flex> ahh
19:58 <Flex> yeah
19:59 <pikey> there should've been 4 teams
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20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8855 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/src/engine/eVoter.cpp:
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8852 to 8854:
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: r8854 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-18 18:37:07 +0100 (Sun, 18 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Removed faulty assertion.
20:16 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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20:18 * madmax thinks CT sumo is gathering too much of CTWF crowd
20:18 <Durka> \o
20:18 <madmax> hello
20:18 <Durka> #si TR's
20:18 <armabot> Durka: Fortress Brawl - TR's: Players (0/32):
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20:18 <Durka> #si -v TR's
20:18 <armabot> Durka: Fortress Brawl - TR's (66.71.250.169:4537) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090118 unix dedicated, url: http://twisted-rats.co.cc/brawl, Description: “Backup server for the Fortress Brawl, compliments of the Twisted Rats (TR) clan, hosted by Durka“, Players (0/32):
20:19 <Durka> sw33t
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20:30 <Concord> #seen speed
20:30 <armabot> Concord: speed was last seen in #armagetron 5 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours, 49 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <speed> man ct 1:1 kod ...
20:30 <Concord> #seen sebol158
20:30 <armabot> Concord: I have not seen sebol158.
20:31 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8856 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (13 files in 4 dirs): Manuel Moos: Merging changes from trunk (bugfixes and hoop's zone rendering patch).
20:32 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: now i am
20:33 <Concord> P4, ct|kyle either of you wanna play in brawl?
20:33 <PinkTomato> Concord hoop has 1 player
20:33 <Concord> lol
20:34 <akira_arma> #tea
20:34 <armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
20:34 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: there's no work i haven't pushed :-)
20:34 <Concord> akira_arma wanna play in brawl?
20:34 <P4> Concord: how much players do You bring? :)
20:34 <Concord> we have 4 currently
20:34 <akira_arma> brawl?
20:34 <akira_arma> wth is that
20:34 <Concord> speed and sebol should be there, but aren't
20:34 <Concord> just a fort tourney
20:34 <akira_arma> ...
20:34 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: does that mean all branches off the trunk that are supposed to be in svn have to be managed (merged) by svn?
20:34 <akira_arma> does anyone still play fort?
20:35 <akira_arma> :;)
20:35 <Concord> yeah a lot
20:35 <akira_arma> kidding
20:35 <Concord> oh
20:35 <Concord> come play with my team ,were short
20:35 <PinkTomato> not as short as hoop!
20:35 <akira_arma> who is in there?
20:35 <akira_arma> :)
20:35 <akira_arma> i play only with the best!
20:35 <akira_arma> lol
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20:37 <akira_arma> well concord?
20:37 -!- tav_ [n=tav@78.145.23.121] has joined #armagetron
20:37 <Concord> nvm go to hoops we don't need you
20:37 <Concord> do go to hoops
20:38 <akira_arma> i was kidding
20:38 <akira_arma> :/
20:38 <akira_arma> and i always play with hoop!
20:38 <akira_arma> he is too short :(
20:38 <akira_arma> lol
20:38 <akira_arma> omg i shouldnt talk today
20:38 <akira_arma> only useless shit comes out
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20:48 <armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r805 Merging changes from trunk (bugfixes and hoop's zone renderi... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r792 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8852 to 8854:...
20:52 <akira_arma> sillies
20:52 <akira_arma> :)
20:52 <Flex> akira_arma sorry
20:53 <Flex> i wanted you to play, nothing personal
20:53 <akira_arma> dont get me excited when you are actually full
20:53 <akira_arma> yes sure flex
20:53 <akira_arma> stuff it anywhere :)
20:53 <hoop> akira_arma: join #armagetron.tourneys plz
20:55 <zmanuel> wrtlprnft: no :)
20:55 <zmanuel> it just means one has to be more careful with branching.
20:56 <zmanuel> First, one needs to make a branch in bzr
20:56 <zmanuel> then in svn
20:56 <zmanuel> and then you let them sync.
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21:20 <SageLord> epsy: unlock the god damn |x| server
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21:38 <arrow> #tea
21:38 <armabot> arrow: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
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21:41 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: ah, ok
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21:52 <K-Yo> .ls freako
21:52 <K-Yo> .ls Player 7
21:52 <K-Yo> #ls freako
21:53 <K-Yo> #ls Player 7
21:53 <armabot> K-Yo: freako has last been seen on Fortress Brawl - PinkTomato's 1 hour 30 minutes ago.
21:53 <armabot> K-Yo: Player 7 has last been seen on Fortress Brawl - PinkTomato's 22 minutes ago.
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22:04 <Concord> #aka Rolos
22:04 <armabot> Concord: I don't know anything about 'rolos'!
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22:24 <zmanuel> argh. "X renamed it's team to Y"
22:24 * zmanuel grammar-nazis the author
22:25 <wrtlprnft> hehe
22:25 <wrtlprnft> that was joda
22:25 <wrtlprnft> it's fixed on the trunk
22:25 <zmanuel> yeah, but I currently have to see it every time :)
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22:25 <wrtlprnft> feel free to override the language file
22:25 <wrtlprnft> *overwrite
22:26 <wrtlprnft> all i did was replace ... and "" to get some unicode chars to play with
22:26 <zmanuel> will do so on the merge to the trunk.
22:26 <Concord> developers, get a ladle team already
22:27 <zmanuel> but we suck.
22:27 <sinewav> yeah rly
22:27 <wrtlprnft> that's what i said
22:27 <epsy> do we really care?
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22:31 <sinewav> hi luke-jr
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22:45 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8858 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): mathias: Fixed length calculation of colored strings
22:51 <armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r806 tCharacterFilter and its users now work with utf8.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r807 Fixed length calculation of colored strings...
23:02 <epsy> @tea
23:02 <teabot> epsy: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
23:02 <Genki> #weather 85747
23:02 <armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Overlook at Del Lago, Vail, Arizona is 75.2°F (2:56 PM MST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 15%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025.3 hPa (Falling).
23:03 <epsy> #weather heaven
23:03 <Genki> lol
23:03 <armabot> epsy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
23:03 <epsy> should have been a 403
23:03 <Genki> xD
23:03 <epsy> #weather hell
23:03 <armabot> epsy: The current temperature in Main Street, Brighton, Michigan is 19.0°F (5:03 PM EST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 12.2°F. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004.6 hPa (Steady).
23:03 <Genki> xD
23:04 <epsy> #weather epsy
23:04 <armabot> epsy: The current temperature in Gdansk Airport, Poland is 24.8°F (11:00 PM CET on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady).
23:04 <epsy> #weather Genki
23:04 <armabot> epsy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
23:04 <PinkTomato> #weather tomato
23:04 <armabot> PinkTomato: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
23:06 <epsy> PinkTomato, what were the scores?
23:06 <PinkTomato> Appa 1 - 0 Concord
23:06 <PinkTomato> epsy: what are they now?
23:07 <epsy> 62-62
23:07 <PinkTomato> close
23:08 <epsy> did you decide on 1st to two or three?
23:09 <PinkTomato> first to 3
23:09 <epsy> 80-62 for concs
23:10 <epsy> 86-64 5v3 for concs
23:10 <epsy> 4v3
23:11 <epsy> 3v3 heh
23:11 <PinkTomato> :)
23:11 * epsy wishes we had mirroring
23:11 <epsy> 3v2
23:11 <epsy> 2v1 for concs
23:12 <epsy> 102-70
23:12 <epsy> 1-1
23:12 <epsy> and they are all saying they have one match left
23:12 <PinkTomato> xD
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23:13 <PinkTomato> they agreed to first to 3 at the start
23:13 <TaZ_> hey
23:13 <epsy> so what do I do?
23:14 <epsy> [2 TS=2009/01/18-22:53:40 IP=78.27.12.206:52579] Remote admin command by Lizmatic@x/member: center_message Best of 3 - decided
23:14 <TaZ_> Anyone know any free SIP networks?
23:14 <epsy> er, oops
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23:18 <TaZ_> no one oO?
23:20 <epsy> @g free sip netwoek
23:20 <epsy> @g free sip network
23:20 <teabot> epsy: http://www.networkworld.com/research/2004/0510sipgettingstarted.html - Getting started with SIP - Network World
23:20 <teabot> epsy: http://www.networkworld.com/research/2004/0510sipgettingstarted.html - Getting started with SIP - Network World
23:21 <epsy> 52-30 for appa's
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23:21 <epsy> conc's is trying to stay positive!
23:21 <TaZ_> i mean like a real free SIP network. i remember someone talking about them the other day
23:21 <TaZ_> might have been lucifer
23:21 <epsy> then ping Lackadaisical
23:21 <TaZ_> or luke-jr
23:21 <epsy> Lucifer, *
23:21 <Lucifer> it probably was
23:21 <Lucifer> what did I do?
23:22 <epsy> why do you all have nicks starting with L ? goddamnit
23:22 <TaZ_> you know any free SIP networks?
23:22 <Lucifer> no, I don't
23:22 <TaZ_> ergh, ok thx
23:22 <Lucifer> heh, sorry
23:22 <Lucifer> I was actually looking not too long ago
23:22 <epsy> make your own :o)
23:22 <Lucifer> skype is the best it gets, but it's not SIP, it's their own proprietary protocol
23:22 <TaZ_> even just free outbound?
23:22 <TaZ_> yea
23:23 <Lucifer> you want outbound to a landline?
23:23 <TaZ_> yea
23:23 <Lucifer> I don't think you can get that for free
23:23 <Lucifer> you can only get over the internet for free
23:23 <TaZ_> aww
23:23 <epsy> 62-38 2v2
23:23 <TaZ_> there has to be a free outbound to landline somewhere
23:23 <TaZ_> :/
23:24 <PinkTomato> TaZ_: Don't you need a phoneline for internet?
23:24 <epsy> they are making a comeback!
23:24 <epsy> 62-48 !
23:24 <TaZ_> no pinktomato, not with SIP
23:25 <PinkTomato> why is sip important?
23:25 <epsy> appa def fucked
23:25 <epsy> 64-64
23:25 <epsy> round 7 of 10
23:25 <TaZ_> you can use wifi to make a phone call to a landline, and not use cellphone minuets :D
23:26 <epsy> 66-66
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23:26 <epsy> 6v6 :)
23:26 <epsy> conc def failing
23:26 <PinkTomato> I always think the free services sell the numbers you dial to marketing.
23:26 <epsy> but keeping up
23:27 <epsy> and a little pushing done by dude on the enemy, but he dies
23:27 <epsy> now 3v2 for appa's
23:27 <epsy> 3v1
23:27 <PinkTomato> epsy: I thought you turned off svg output?
23:27 <epsy> 84-70
23:27 <TaZ_> haha, maybe pinktomato :)
23:27 <epsy> I put it back after our match
23:28 <PinkTomato> Ah i see
23:28 <epsy> 6v4 for conc's
23:28 <PinkTomato> TaZ_: what about http://www.voipuser.org/ ?
23:29 <epsy> golds coming up to appa's def
23:29 <TaZ_> i think they only give you a minuet of outbound calls to landline
23:29 <epsy> 4v2
23:29 <epsy> flex is still trying to keep it up
23:29 <epsy> 90-76 for appa's, 3v2 for concs
23:29 <TaZ_> wait
23:29 <Flex> epsy stfu
23:29 <Flex> you prick
23:29 <Flex> jeez
23:29 <TaZ_> maybe not pinktomato
23:29 <epsy> 2v1 now
23:30 <epsy> Flex, turn highlight off
23:30 <epsy> will think about it heh
23:30 <TaZ_> i signed up for this before, i don't know why i didn't use it :/
23:30 <epsy> 92-90
23:30 <PinkTomato> TaZ_: because it is cruel and evil to use donated minutes?
23:30 <epsy> for appa's
23:31 <PinkTomato> is that the last match epsy ?
23:31 * epsy now shuts up and leaves the suspense entire!
23:31 <epsy> last round even
23:31 <PinkTomato> lol :D
23:31 <TaZ_> xD pinktomato i dont think that was it
23:31 <epsy> 94-92 for appa's
23:31 <epsy> 96-94 for concs!
23:32 <epsy> concord's team conquers AND WINS THE LADLE BRAWL!
23:32 <Concord> woot!
23:32 <TaZ_> hey concord
23:32 <TaZ_> ConGratZ
23:32 <Concord> thanx
23:32 <Lizmatic> gzzz
23:32 <Lizmatic> brawl winnarz
23:32 <Lizmatic> so close xD
23:32 <PinkTomato> Congrats Concord's team
23:33 <Flex> if only my team knew what fall back means
23:33 <Lizmatic> sore loser
23:33 <sinewav_away> wow, my nerves are wrecked
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23:34 * epsy notes nobody noticed I wrote ladle brawl
23:34 <TaZ_> why sinwav?
23:34 <sinewav> my team BARELY won fort brawl
23:34 <TaZ_> haha
23:34 <PinkTomato> so 7,8,9,10
23:34 <sinewav> it was luck and lag
23:34 <PinkTomato> only took 4 hours...
23:34 <sinewav> heh
23:34 <Flex> Lizmatic, gj? huh? sorry were you sweeping?
23:35 <TaZ_> 4 hours??? lol
23:35 <sinewav> thanks for the server pink
23:35 <Flex> when did you decide to sweep
23:35 <Lizmatic> Flex, don't be a sore loser, we did good, they just did better
23:35 <sinewav> `couls have gone either way Flex
23:35 <TaZ_> cause x sucks
23:35 <TaZ_> :)
23:35 <sinewav> could*
23:35 <PinkTomato> sshh!!! TaZ_!
23:35 <Lizmatic> TaZ, no flaming
23:35 <TaZ_> i know i know xD
23:35 <sinewav> but close mathces are what the brawl is about, right?
23:36 <Lizmatic> yeah it was cool
23:36 <PinkTomato> They were really close!
23:36 <sinewav> liz you are amazing. I had a very hard time with you
23:36 <Flex> i'm sorry.. but with 1 attack.. our defence fell asleep.. i can't beleive how much we messed up back there
23:36 * Lizmatic is a pain in the ass
23:36 <sinewav> no kidding
23:36 <sinewav> pee break
23:37 <Lizmatic> =D
23:38 <Flex> StickyNo1b, we managed far with so shitty sweeping.. i'm sorry, guess we don't fit :p
23:38 <Lizmatic> sticky wasnt even sweeping anymore
23:38 <Flex> i knew that already, i just thought it didn't matter :p
23:39 <Concord> I liked my team
23:39 <Flex> with 1 attack.. i don't think it was needed..
23:39 <Flex> waiting for us to die.. and we did
23:39 <Concord> we rocked
23:39 <Lizmatic> meh, you had uber defense and waited for us to die yeah
23:39 <StickyNo1b> i stopped sweeping due to the terrible call to have 5 defenders, it never works
23:39 <Lizmatic> I guess its a good way but also the pussy way :P
23:39 <StickyNo1b> uber defense never works
23:39 <Lizmatic> it worked in their case so what are you on about
23:39 <Flex> i never called for 5 defenders.. i said don't rush to get there so fast
23:40 <Lizmatic> well Flex, you also said "stop ordering"
23:40 <Flex> nobody listened.. anyway it was the defence fucking up
23:40 <Lizmatic> so of course nobody listens to you
23:40 <Lizmatic> tyrant
23:40 <StickyNo1b> it didnt work for them cos while they were operating that strategy they were losing
23:40 <Flex> our defence is what caused us to lose, we failed quite bad back there
23:41 <epsy> wrtlprnft, hah, excellent
23:41 <PinkTomato> Concord: what did you say about ladle to me? /me has forgot
23:41 <StickyNo1b> yes we did
23:41 <Concord> I asked you if you could organize a second open team, there seemse to be demand
23:42 <wrtlprnft> wrtlprnft: ?
23:42 <wrtlprnft> err
23:42 <PinkTomato> Concord: I can give it a go :)
23:42 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ?
23:42 <Flex> the server is fucked
23:42 <epsy> wrtlprnft, I love your way to kick people :)
23:42 <wrtlprnft> heh
23:42 <Concord> cool stuff, if your up to it
23:42 <Flex> so fucked it's laggy
23:42 <Concord> talk to pike he has some extras methinks
23:42 <PinkTomato> what is so special when wrtlprnft kicks people?
23:43 <PinkTomato> OK will do Concord :)
23:43 <Concord> if you want, don't do it as a favor, like Monkey would have you
23:43 <Concord> I just thought, you are organized, and don;t have a team, so
23:43 <PinkTomato> me organised?
23:43 <PinkTomato> xD
23:43 <wrtlprnft> i didn't even mention using some new feature (like doublebinding cycle_delay) that most clients don't support
23:43 <PinkTomato> I can try :)
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23:49 <epsy> nighty
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23:52 <Concord> who played for your team flex?
23:52 <Flex> a bunch of noobs
23:52 <Concord> who?
23:53 <Flex> na i'm joking, our team was decent
23:53 <Flex> radian, lizmatic, i am, sticky, flex, mazuffer
23:54 <Concord> thnx
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Log from 2009-01-19:
--- Day changed Mon Jan 19 2009
00:00 <Genki> Flex O.io
00:00 <Genki> O.o
00:00 <Flex> hey
00:00 <Flex> long time no see..
00:02 <Genki> yeah no kiddin
00:02 <Genki> what's up?
00:02 <Flex> nothing
00:02 <Flex> you?
00:03 <Genki> not much, you know babybug? lol
00:03 <BabyBug> Best not go there Genki ;)
00:03 <Flex> what about her?
00:03 <Lizmatic> oh no..
00:03 <Lizmatic> no no no
00:03 <Lizmatic> LOL
00:04 <Genki> lalalala
00:04 <Lizmatic> Genki, BabyBug and Flex are in a relationship, but its not going very well :(
00:04 <Genki> oh liz is here
00:04 * Genki zips mouth
00:04 * BabyBug slaps Lizmatic
00:04 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1176218160.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
00:04 * Lizmatic cuddles BabyBug tightly
00:04 <nsh22> hey heyhey
00:04 <nsh22> lol
00:05 * BabyBug fondles Lizmatic
00:05 <Genki> heya
00:05 <nsh22> 0.0
00:05 <Genki> don't worry
00:05 <nsh22> hey genki
00:05 <Genki> it's normal
00:05 <nsh22> lol
00:05 <Flex> Genki
00:05 <Flex> http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,208.15.html
00:05 <nsh22> its normal to cyber on an tro n irc?
00:05 <Genki> just a lil foreplay
00:05 <Genki> no worries
00:05 <nsh22> lol
00:05 <Flex> this is what this channel has turned into..
00:05 <nsh22> wear a condom ;)
00:06 <Genki> flex: I hate you
00:06 <Flex> if only she thought of that
00:06 <luke-jr> ]later tell taz "free SIP network" = the Internet
00:06 <ljrbot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
00:06 <Lizmatic> thats a low thing to say
00:06 <Genki> wear a 'today sponge'
00:06 <Lizmatic> but whatever, couldve expected it from you right?
00:06 <Flex> i speak the truth
00:07 <Lizmatic> even if a comment like that can hurt my feelings?
00:07 <Genki> wait how do you play bubble trouble again?
00:07 <nsh22> ??
00:08 <PinkTomato> you blow bubbles
00:08 <PinkTomato> and jump on bubbles!
00:08 <nsh22> lol
00:08 <nsh22> pink, do u have a map rotator?
00:08 <PinkTomato> and admire on how on earth they made dinosaurs cute
00:08 <luke-jr> nsh22: #Luke-JrIsAnAsshat
00:08 <nsh22> ?
00:08 <PinkTomato> nsh22: can you run ct+Sty?
00:09 <Lizmatic> #Luke-JrIsAnAsshat
00:09 <Lizmatic> oO
00:09 <nsh22> what is that?
00:09 <luke-jr> nsh22: channel
00:09 <nsh22> o i c
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00:10 <PinkTomato> nsh22: rotate chat here :)
00:10 * nsh22 is gonna get VERY confuzzled
00:11 <PinkTomato> hehe :), I already am
00:11 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: can you run sty+ct?
00:11 <PinkTomato> no wait
00:11 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: ofc
00:11 <PinkTomato> but mine works on sql.
00:11 <luke-jr> …
00:11 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8859 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/render/rFont.h):
00:12 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
00:12 <armabot> armagetronad: Made it so that the cursor position always is in storage units (char
00:12 <armabot> armagetronad: or wchar_t) and not characters visible on screen, and clarified it in
00:12 <armabot> armagetronad: the comments.
00:12 <PinkTomato> Yeah, sorry luke-jr should have mentioned that first :)
00:12 <PinkTomato> um... I'll change it to .csv
00:12 <Flex> luke-jr well she's no angel either..
00:13 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8860 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tString.cpp): Manuel Moos: Small optimization :)
00:14 <PinkTomato> nsh22: you could use 0.3
00:14 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8861 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp src/ui/uMenu.cpp src/ui/uMenu.h): Manuel Moos: Got rid of redundant cursorPos variable.
00:14 <PinkTomato> MAP_ROTATION function
00:14 <nsh22> possibly
00:14 <PinkTomato> what sort of rotation do you want?
00:14 <Flex> are you playing it Genki?
00:14 <Flex> like.. you turn right and left and stuff..
00:15 <Genki> yeah after I play yandere though
00:16 <nsh22> what rotation do i want? maps
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00:16 <PinkTomato> i mean, in a random order?
00:16 <PinkTomato> or a sequential order?
00:16 <Flex> @m Lackadaisical http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=arcade;sa=highscore;game=469;start=0
00:16 <PinkTomato> I think using 0.3 would be easier
00:17 <Flex> #m Lackadaisical http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=arcade;sa=highscore;game=469;start=0
00:17 <armabot> Flex: The operation succeeded.
00:17 -!- notlizmatic [n=Lizmatic@78-27-12-206.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #armagetron
00:17 <PinkTomato> hi notlizmatic
00:17 <notlizmatic> o/
00:17 <PinkTomato> o/ :)
00:17 -!- CrAsHeD [n=crashed@user-1120u7f.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
00:17 <Flex> hey there.. asl
00:18 <CrAsHeD> heh
00:18 <Flex> not you :p
00:18 <CrAsHeD> gonna rape me flex? xD
00:18 <notlizmatic> he's a turk, so he'll rob you first and then rape
00:18 <CrAsHeD> is luci here?
00:18 <Flex> haha :p
00:18 <CrAsHeD> hahaha
00:18 <Flex> fair now?
00:18 <Lucifer> yes, what do you want?
00:18 <CrAsHeD> :o
00:18 -!- notlizmatic is now known as Lizmatic
00:19 <Lizmatic> btw Genki what are you doing in irc lately xD
00:19 <CrAsHeD> Jenny's here? Hai again jenny :D
00:19 <Genki> finally found the time to set it up lol
00:20 <CrAsHeD> #lr CrAsHeD
00:20 <CrAsHeD> #si open sumo
00:20 <armabot> CrAsHeD: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
00:20 <Flex> luke-jr, you can remove the space i guess.. i don't need it anymore
00:20 <Flex> well, i got somewhere else, so can save you some bandwidth
00:21 <luke-jr> say wat
00:24 <Lizmatic> going to bed (ps: I hate you all)
00:24 <Lizmatic> xxx
00:24 <PinkTomato> night Lizmatic :(
00:26 <nsh22> ok so back to the topic of rotation
00:27 <sinewav> gn Liz
00:27 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
00:27 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 12.9°F (6:15 PM EST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Windchill: 12.2°F. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009.4 hPa (Rising).
00:27 <ct|kyle> it's not cold anymore
00:28 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
00:28 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 23.2°F (6:28 PM EST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 23.0°F. Pressure: 28.73 in 972.8 hPa (Falling).
00:28 <nsh22> it actual;ly got warm enough to snow today
00:28 <PinkTomato> #weather Brighton, UK
00:28 <armabot> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 45.1°F (10:39 PM GMT on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 42.8°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 29.49 in 998.5 hPa (Falling).
00:28 <nsh22> thats hot compared to here
00:28 <tramshed> #weather chicago, il
00:29 <PinkTomato> hehe
00:29 <ct|kyle> that's too hot :P
00:29 <armabot> tramshed: The current temperature in U.S. Cellular Field, Chicago, Illinois is 18.1°F (5:20 PM CST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Rising).
00:29 <nsh22> it was -30C every day all last week
00:29 <PinkTomato> ouch
00:29 <nsh22> balmy
00:29 <tramshed> heh
00:29 <nsh22> #weather hell
00:29 <tramshed> we hit -30F the other day here
00:29 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Main Street, Brighton, Michigan is 17.8°F (6:29 PM EST on January 18, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005.3 hPa (Steady).
00:29 <tramshed> hell is in michigan
00:29 <nsh22> haha
00:29 <ct|kyle> sinewav: yet again you can't complain :P
00:29 <PinkTomato> In Brighton O_o
00:30 <nsh22> #g -30C in F
00:30 <armabot> nsh22: (-30) degrees Celsius = -22 degrees Fahrenheit
00:30 <tramshed> #g -30F in C
00:30 <armabot> tramshed: (-30) degrees Fahrenheit = -34.4444444 degrees Celsius
00:30 <nsh22> #g -30f in c
00:30 <armabot> nsh22: (-30) degrees Fahrenheit = -34.4444444 degrees Celsius
00:30 <ct|kyle> it was almost that on friday
00:30 <nsh22> not bad
00:30 <tramshed> thats a lot of fours.
00:30 <madmax> bubbletrouble is a bad ripoff of pang :(
00:30 <nsh22> it was goddamned close here
00:30 <tramshed> we ate blizzard
00:30 <Flex> yeah, just because you suck at it
00:31 <tramshed> canada was like here, have our polar circles
00:31 <Flex> actually, you're right
00:31 <nsh22> lol we share
00:31 <Flex> but still
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00:31 <Flex> madmax, beat me..
00:32 * sinewav enjoys the heatwave
00:32 * nsh22 slaps the heat wave and replaces it with an icecube
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00:35 <Flex> madmax, do you have what it takes.. or should i just go bed..
00:35 * CrAsHeD laughs
00:36 <madmax> flash games.... no thanks
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00:36 <ct|kyle> anyone want to play some flag fort?
00:36 <ct|kyle> #si flag fortress
00:36 <armabot> ct|kyle: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “flag fortress” at the moment, sorry.
00:36 <ct|kyle> o0
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00:40 <Lucifer> it's very hard to learn your way around a toolkit when your kids keep asking you to tell them if they're making legal chess moves
00:40 <BabyBug> give them a rule book!
00:41 <nsh22> lol
00:41 <nsh22> i like chess
00:41 <ct|kyle> make them play checkers instead :P
00:41 <nsh22> haha
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00:41 <nsh22> make the m play 3d chess
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00:42 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/slyshot/cell-1.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
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00:43 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8862 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): Manuel Moos: Adapted serverside player name length limitation to utf8 strings.
00:44 <PinkTomato> what does that mean?
00:44 <nsh22> lol
00:47 <sinewav_pooping> #si flag fortress
00:47 <armabot> sinewav_pooping: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “flag fortress” at the moment, sorry.
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00:47 <nsh22> lol i was about to ask....
00:47 <ct|kyle> no :( Genki left
00:47 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/slyshot/cell-2.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
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00:49 <nsh22> hey concord
00:49 <Concord> heya
00:50 <Concord> saw a lot of zurd on the grids today
00:50 <nsh22> any other signups yet?
00:50 <nsh22> lol
00:50 <Concord> hmm
00:51 <ct|kyle> Concord: we are up to 5
00:51 <Concord> for ctwf?
00:51 <ct|kyle> ya
00:51 <Concord> cool\
00:51 <PinkTomato> CTWF v CT?
00:51 <Concord> how long has it been?
00:52 <ct|kyle> 2 or 3 days
00:52 <ct|kyle> I'm going to do a little something different though
00:53 <PinkTomato> where do you sign up O_o?
00:53 <nsh22> join #Luke-JrIsAnAssHat
00:54 <nsh22> pink get in on the action
00:56 <armabot> armacommits: [0.3.1] r789 Removed accidental suppression of help messages on OS X.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r811 Adapted serverside player name length limitation to utf8 str... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r810 Got rid of redundant cursorPos variable.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r809 Small optimization :)... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r808 Made it so that the cursor position always is in storage uni...
01:02 <nsh22> nite all
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01:11 <madmax> Concord: I don't think BabyBug is one of the developers :p
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01:11 <BabyBug> ?!
01:11 <Concord> no?
01:12 <PinkTomato> BabyBug fixed a bug
01:12 <madmax> lol
01:12 <CrAsHeD> Can anyone tell me what this command does? CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE
01:12 * BabyBug is confused
01:12 <Concord> the minimal distance you can be from a wall
01:12 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 cycle_rubber_mindistance
01:12 <armabot> PinkTomato: CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE: The minimal distance rubber code keeps you from the wall in front of you || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_GAP: If > 0, CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE effectively is never taken to be bigger than this value times the size of any detected gaps the cylce can squeeze through. For "Open" gameplay. || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_GAP_OVERRIDE: (5 more messages)
01:12 <madmax> BabyBug: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18981
01:13 <PinkTomato> it means it is worse than high rubber
01:13 <PinkTomato> you can't even hit the wall
01:13 <sinewav> ...
01:13 <BabyBug> Oh erm..
01:13 <BabyBug> lol Concord you twit
01:13 <BabyBug> =P
01:13 <Concord> i'll edit
01:13 <CrAsHeD> what about this one? CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST
01:14 <CrAsHeD> #cfg2 CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST
01:14 <armabot> CrAsHeD: CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST: When adjusting to or 180ing into a wall, allow going closer by at least this amount (relative to the last distance) || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINADJUST differs from its default?
01:14 <CrAsHeD> i dont get this?
01:14 <BabyBug> awww don't edit Concord...it's funny to laugh at you =P
01:15 <BabyBug> Everyone always thinks i'm someone i'm not =(
01:15 <BabyBug> And then it seems like i'm a let down when they find out
01:15 <BabyBug> *cries*
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01:16 <madmax> it's a good idea for a team though :D I think it's about time too
01:17 <CrAsHeD> heya smoothice
01:21 <BabyBug> Are the devs actually any good at the game? :P
01:21 <smoothice> CrAsHeD: I know you?
01:23 <smoothice> CrAsHeD: ??????
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01:23 <CrAsHeD> LOL!
01:23 <CrAsHeD> nevar!
01:24 <CrAsHeD> u got yer servers set up yet smoothice?
01:26 <CrAsHeD> #cfg2 cycle_rubber_malus_time
01:26 <armabot> CrAsHeD: CYCLE_RUBBER_MALUS_TIME: UNDOCUMENTED
01:26 <CrAsHeD> eh
01:26 <CrAsHeD> #cfg2 cycle_rubber_mindistance_unprepared
01:26 <armabot> CrAsHeD: CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED: Additional distance for unprepared grinds; it gets applied when the cycle's last turn was just a fraction of a second ago and faded out preparation times larger than CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_PREPARATION. || CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_RUBBER_MINDISTANCE_UNPREPARED differs from its default?
01:26 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: dident you hear Lucifer say he was tooo good at high rubber he got kicked
01:27 <BabyBug> ...
01:27 <ct|kyle> mmmmmmmmm popcorn
01:28 <PinkTomato> popcorn smells
01:29 <PinkTomato> well the microwave stuff does
01:29 <ct|kyle> this isen't that bad stff
01:29 <smoothice> CrAsHeD: sortof
01:30 <smoothice> PinkTomato: yeah the microwave kind causes cancer if you eat it 4-5 times a day over many days :P
01:32 * sinewav is jealous of kyle's popcorn
01:32 <PinkTomato> smoothice: what do Microwave's taste like? Never tried
01:32 <ct|kyle> like 1/5 cancer :P
01:34 <sinewav> ct|kyle: oh yeah, forgot about that
01:35 <sinewav> I should probably but "real" popcorn since I don't have a microwave
01:35 <sinewav> `buy*
01:36 <ct|kyle> real popcorn is what i'm having
01:36 <sinewav> 0_o from where is the cancer?
01:36 <ct|kyle> not in mine
01:36 <sinewav> ah I see!
01:37 <sinewav> `good for you
01:37 <ct|kyle> i wonder if ` is talk on tron for sinewav
01:38 <sinewav> ya think?
01:38 <ct|kyle> ya
01:39 <Concord> smoothice are you playing with NW in the ladle?
01:39 <smoothice> Concord: Nope
01:39 <PinkTomato> #aawiki ladle
01:39 <armabot> PinkTomato: Search took 0.35 seconds: Ladle -8/Challenge Board - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle-8/Challenge_Board>; Ladle -10/Challenge Board - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle-10/Challenge_Board>; Ladle - Armagetron Advanced Wiki: <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle>; Category: Ladle (3 more messages)
01:39 <Concord> no?
01:39 <Concord> I've seen you in fort a couple times
01:39 <Concord> your busy that day?
01:40 <smoothice> ???
01:40 <smoothice> I'm not personal work right now...
01:40 <Concord> why not play in it?
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01:41 <ct|kyle> Concord: what type of Bowl message should i add to CTWF
01:42 <Concord> 0xff8811The 0x99ccff TRONIC Bowl 0xff8811 will be played on 0xffffffJune 7th, 2009.
01:42 <Concord> wait theres more
01:43 <Concord> a second line
01:43 <ct|kyle> i'm adding it into script :P
01:44 <Concord> 0x4466b0The Bowl is a 32 team Fortress tournament. Each team has 8 players. 0xff8811Could your team win it?
01:45 <ct|kyle> i'll have to make that 3 lines
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01:48 <smoothice> zurd: hi
01:48 <zurd> hey
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01:52 <Concord> smoothice why not play?
01:53 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8865 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed text alignment.
01:59 <P4> http://armagetron.pl/styball ← check out the current SVG preview untill the server is empty… what is that spiral? oO is that look like a bug?
01:59 <smoothice> Concord: I'm... just... not... playing at the moment? I don't know
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01:59 <PinkTomato> is that each time a player moves?
02:00 <armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r812 Fixed text alignment.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r793 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8854 to 8863:... || [0.3.1] r791 Fixed versioning for 0.3.1 branch.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r989 Worked around SDL/input system bug: composite characters (" ... || [0.3.1] r790 Merge r784 from trunk...
02:00 <Concord> hmm, yeah, perhaps tho you would join your clan to play on that sunday, for fun
02:01 <sinewav> :o
02:03 <ct|kyle> P4: we were talking about that today when the brawl was happening
02:04 <P4> strange
02:04 <Concord> the grid image was teh hotness, btw
02:04 <Concord> soooo great
02:04 <sinewav> oh yeah I agree
02:04 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 command_acc
02:05 <armabot> ct|kyle: Sorry, no matches :S
02:05 <sinewav> `I wish I could see the score though :(
02:05 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 Access
02:05 <Concord> yeah & on my safari it didn't refersh automatically
02:05 <armabot> ct|kyle: ACCESS_LEVEL: Changes the access level of a configuration item to make it available to lower ranked users || ACCESS_LEVEL_ADMIN: Minimal access level for /admin command. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT: Minimal access level for chatting. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT_TIMEOUT: Time in seconds between public announcements that someone wants to chat, but can't. Set to 0 to disable the public warnings. || (7 more messages)
02:05 <sinewav> it was like watching ESPN gamecase or something
02:05 <sinewav> gamecast*
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02:06 <PinkTomato> does anyone think increasing max_out_rate might make servers less laggy?
02:07 <PinkTomato> and what would be really cool, is if we could get it to draw the lines in real-time :D
02:07 <smoothice> max_out_rate isn't latency related..
02:07 <ct|kyle> sinewav: you want something like http://plantpeanuts.co.uk/flowersumo/
02:08 <PinkTomato> smoothice: it can be
02:08 <PinkTomato> if it tries to send out more data than is allowed
02:08 <smoothice> I guess...
02:08 <PinkTomato> then it will have to delay the send wouldn't it?
02:11 <PinkTomato> ah, its way higher anyway, seems to only effect the round loading
02:15 <sinewav> ct|kyle: yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
02:18 <zurd> SINCLUDE settings_pig_sty_ctf.cfg
02:18 <zurd> oups, sorry
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02:21 <ct|kyle> sinewav: That took ed a lot of work to do
02:22 <sinewav> `yeah I bet
02:22 <sinewav> damn that `
02:22 <sinewav> ` ` ` ` `
02:22 <sinewav> grr
02:23 <ct|kyle> lol you played too much tron today :P
02:24 <sinewav> too much everyday. -.-
02:24 <ct|kyle> i use up arrow (so no one knows if i start trying to use it here)
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02:24 <ct|kyle> you still gotta get a rank in CT
02:24 <sinewav> oh yeah
02:24 <sinewav> wanna fight?
02:25 <ct|kyle> sinewav: i'm too far ahead LOL
02:25 <sinewav> oh!
02:26 <sinewav> ok I'll look into that rank stuff. I've suddenly become quite busy.
02:29 <ct|kyle> i'm either going to go after concord or safa
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02:29 <ct|kyle> no GodTodd come back
02:30 <smoothice> lol
02:30 <smoothice> that helps a lot doesn't it...
02:30 <ct|kyle> #ctwf
02:30 <armabot> ct|kyle: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress.: Players (5/14): Epicure, kenji, nellio, X-Act0, ~*Sasha*~
02:30 <ct|kyle> :/ To crash it or not to crash it
02:30 <smoothice> #help ctwf
02:30 <armabot> smoothice: (ctwf <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "serverinfo Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress".
02:30 <smoothice> #help serverinfo
02:30 <armabot> smoothice: (serverinfo <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/serverdetails.php?name=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
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02:39 <agent7> #list
02:39 <armabot> agent7: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
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02:46 <ct|kyle> sorry sinewav :P
02:47 <sinewav> nice script
02:47 <sinewav> `:p
02:47 * sinewav blanes COncord
02:47 <ct|kyle> lol my fault
02:48 <agent7> #armaservers
02:48 <armabot> agent7: This data is 18 seconds old; {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (11/16), Wild West =Sumo= (11/14), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud) (8/8), FRO Clan High Rubber (5/10), Wild West =CTF Shooting= (5/10), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (5/12), - | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | - (5/16), |FA| Devils Rings! (4/16), Swampland Mud (2 more messages)
02:49 <ct|kyle> sinewav: i think i fixed it wanna come see :P
02:50 <sinewav> yeah, be right there
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02:53 * BabyBug prods Lucifer in the belly button
02:53 <Lucifer> #fetch http://www.davefancella.com
02:53 <armabot> Lucifer: '<?xml version="1.0"\n?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">\n<head>\n<title>Dave Fancella</title>\n<meta name="generator" content="http://txt2tags.sf.net" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css" />\n<link rel="stylesheet" (5 more messages)
02:53 <Lucifer> *phew*
02:53 <BabyBug> ?
02:53 <Lucifer> my youngest spilled water on my computer
02:54 <BabyBug> LOL
02:54 <Lucifer> luckily the water was mostly deflected, but I had to shut down quickly and make sure everything was dry
02:58 <sinewav> how old is your youngest Lucifer?
02:59 <Lucifer> 5
02:59 <sinewav> so, not quite old enought to know better?
03:01 <Lucifer> no, old enough to know better
03:01 <Lucifer> it was a genuine accident
03:01 <Lucifer> he was very helpful in cleaning it up :)
03:02 <sinewav> very nice. :)
03:02 <Lucifer> what sort of information about a user in a tournament is needed?
03:03 <Lucifer> I've got username, email, real name
03:03 <Lucifer> er, wait a minute, I don't want all that for an auth table
03:03 <luke-jr> you forgot Latin-1 obfuscated game name
03:04 <Lucifer> that should be a separate table, with a many to one relationship to the user table
03:04 * Lucifer isn't sure a Latin-1 obfuscated game name is needed
03:04 <luke-jr> oh
03:05 <luke-jr> I forgot a piece
03:05 <luke-jr> you forgot Latin-1 obfuscated game name with clan tags
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03:05 <ct|kyle> woot Genki is back :)
03:05 <Genki> heh was trying to cut down the lag when playing bubbletrouble lol
03:07 <ct|kyle> #google bubbletrouble
03:07 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.12 seconds: Bubble Trouble - Games at Miniclip.com - Play Free Games: <http://www.miniclip.com/games/bubble-trouble/en/>; Bubble Trouble - Free Arcade & Classic Game from AddictingGames: <http://www.addictinggames.com/bubbletrouble.html>; Bubble Trouble Game - Flash Games - Arcade Games: <http://www.flasharcade.com/game.cgi?bubbletrouble>; bubble trouble: (2 more messages)
03:08 <Genki> on angel's site
03:08 <Genki> trying to beat flex
03:08 <ct|kyle> lol
03:10 <Genki> bubbletroubesm1
03:10 * BabyBug looks at Genki O.o
03:10 <Genki> or something
03:11 <Genki> liz around >>>
03:11 <Genki> >.>
03:11 <BabyBug> sleeping probably :P
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03:13 <BabyBug> O.o
03:13 <BabyBug> since when is agent7 on irc :s
03:14 <Genki> no clue lol
03:14 <BabyBug> #si nexus
03:14 <armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
03:14 <BabyBug> #alias add n9 si nexus9
03:14 <armabot> BabyBug: The operation succeeded.
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03:16 <BabyBug> agent7!
03:16 <agent7> indeed
03:16 <sinewav> agent7 where?
03:16 <sinewav> `oh!
03:16 <sinewav> hi
03:16 <agent7> where what
03:16 <sinewav> didn't see you come in. hello
03:17 <agent7> first time using this
03:17 <madmax> did you convert another one to come on irc BabyBug?
03:17 <BabyBug> don't think so
03:17 <BabyBug> lol
03:17 <BabyBug> i always globally tell people to come on when i nexus though =D
03:17 <BabyBug> in*
03:19 <agent7> client you use?
03:19 <BabyBug> xchat
03:20 <madmax> irssi :-D
03:20 <BabyBug> nerd ^^^^^
03:20 <Genki> pidgin!
03:20 <Genki> xD
03:20 <agent7> can irc on pidgin?
03:20 <Genki> yeah
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03:20 <agent7> cool
03:20 <smoothice> WASSUP!
03:20 <agent7> and wich one is best
03:21 <Genki> no clue
03:21 <agent7> lol
03:21 <BabyBug> irssi is a text client in the terminal...
03:21 <agent7> i got chatzilla cause im noob at this
03:21 <BabyBug> i'd say xchat is the best client with a gui
03:21 <agent7> on firefox
03:22 <BabyBug> heh ^^
03:24 <agent7> always want to know why always is empti in nexus but sudently all apear and i think maybe was for irc
03:24 <luke-jr> BabyBug: XChat sucks
03:24 <sinewav> XChat FTL
03:24 <luke-jr> Konversation is win
03:24 <BabyBug> and here comes the flame war
03:24 <agent7> :0
03:24 <Genki> <3 xchat
03:24 <Genki> :]
03:25 <luke-jr> ♡ Konversation
03:25 * sinewav will totally use Konversation on luke's advice, just as soon as he gets a new OS.
03:25 <BabyBug> agent7, more people from nexus need to come on IRC...so that it's easier to get people on there :P
03:25 <ct|kyle> sinewav: when will that be?
03:26 <sinewav> well, my plan is to start using linux based software so I know some of the tools.
03:26 <agent7> yes cause i dont want to enter and find it empty most of the time
03:26 <sinewav> this shold make moving to a new os a little less harsh
03:27 <ct|kyle> LOL command prompt in MS not same as terminal in linux :P
03:28 <sinewav> ?
03:28 <ct|kyle> terminal is the only hard part, the rest is simple
03:28 <sinewav> Yeah, I'll probably buy a book when I'm ready to move on.
03:29 <ct|kyle> Firefox is different in Windows than in linux
03:30 <agent7> and sorry for my bad english it is not my first languaje so you are free to correct me whenever you like :)
03:30 <sinewav> #si advanced racing
03:30 <armabot> sinewav: Adventures of TRON >> Advanced Racing <<: Players (2/3): i love cocks!!!, Sam
03:30 <sinewav> hmm...
03:32 <smoothice> #si wild west
03:32 <armabot> smoothice: Wild West =Sumo=: Players (11/14): -=IsY|Gazelle, -=}ID< ARiløu, -=}ID< CrEaToR, -=}ID< Taco, 3RE_noobSaibot, BabyBug, madmax, Player 1, sine.wav, _~R~_»Tðxìc«
03:33 <smoothice> #si West
03:33 <armabot> smoothice: Wild West =Sumo=: Players (11/14): -=IsY|Gazelle, -=}ID< ARiløu, -=}ID< CrEaToR, -=}ID< Taco, 3RE_noobSaibot, BabyBug, madmax, Player 1, sine.wav, _~R~_»Tðxìc«
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03:37 <smoothice> Is DoS any more likely when having an arma server running?
03:37 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I don't intend to directly support clans, heh
03:37 <BabyBug> mathematically, yes. realistically, no
03:38 <Lucifer> I've been DoS attacked as a direct result of having an arma server running
03:38 <Lucifer> it was a smeghead player
03:39 <smoothice> so...
03:39 <smoothice> It was a DoS on 4534?
03:39 <smoothice> UDP
03:40 <smoothice> Lucifer: How did you stop it?
03:40 <Lucifer> I'm not sure if I stopped it or if he just gave up
03:40 <Lucifer> I did a firewall ban, this was before arma supported bans directly
03:40 <Lucifer> the attack stopped soon after that, but like I said, I don't know if it was because of the firewall dropping packets or not
03:40 <smoothice> ok
03:41 <Lucifer> I suspect not, I would have had to go up a few layers in the network topology to stop it
03:41 <Lucifer> but afaik, it's the only attack from an arma player to an arma server admin ever
03:41 <smoothice> ok
03:41 <smoothice> so in other words It's pretty safe
03:41 <Lucifer> yes
03:41 <smoothice> ok
03:42 <Lucifer> and that particular player was thoroughly ostracized in the community, but knowledge of the attack isn't general
03:42 <Lucifer> i.e. we didn't go around telling everybody about it ('we' being the people on the server at the time)
03:42 <smoothice> yeah
03:42 <Lucifer> he was just a smeghead already, heh
03:42 <smoothice> What server was it?
03:42 <Lucifer> Breakfast in Hell
03:42 <smoothice> ok
03:43 <Lucifer> player went by the name Focus at the time, don't know if he's still around under a new name or not
03:43 <Lucifer> I think not, he's shown up at least once since he stopped way back then, and couldn't find a place to play, or so I hear, heh
03:43 <Lucifer> this was all almost 4 years ago
03:44 <smoothice> oh
03:44 <smoothice> back in the days of 0.7.0?
03:48 <Lucifer> no
03:48 <Lucifer> 0.2.7.0 was the server version
03:48 <Lucifer> damn, another kid lost a tooth
03:48 <Lucifer> that almost certainly means a trip to hobby lobby tomorrow, because I know what they want to do with the money
03:49 <BabyBug> hobby lobby?
03:49 <smoothice> a craft store
03:49 <smoothice> like Michaels
03:49 <BabyBug> Michaels?
03:49 <Lucifer> there's a necklace thing down there that my daughter wants and it only costs a dollar
03:49 <Lucifer> teeth are worth a dollar these days, apparently
03:50 <BabyBug> lol :P
03:50 <Lucifer> my son got two dollars last night (the middle kid, older son)
03:50 <smoothice> Lucifer: was the DoS IP based or arma-based?
03:50 <smoothice> like
03:50 <Lucifer> smoothice: I don't know how he ran the attack
03:51 <Lucifer> I don't know if he attacked the arma server or just did a bunch of pings
03:51 <smoothice> was it an attack on the port itself or armagetron-related
03:51 <Lucifer> it was arma-related
03:51 <smoothice> oh ok
03:51 <Lucifer> we'd just had another confrontation in my server
03:51 <Lucifer> he was going around using the rip bug to crash servers
03:51 <Lucifer> said he had a right to do so as long as that bug wasn't fixed
03:51 <smoothice> BUG_RIP?
03:51 <Lucifer> I don't even remember whether or not z-man had reappeared at the time or if he was still MIA
03:52 <Lucifer> #cfg BUG_RIP
03:52 <armabot> Lucifer: BUG_RIP: Allows the rim wall to be ripped open by a VERY close grind. (default: 0)
03:52 <Lucifer> yes
03:52 <smoothice> ok
03:52 <smoothice> so
03:52 <smoothice> Running servers should be taken as a fun thing instead of dangerous?
03:52 <Lucifer> back then it crashed teh server, I don't know what it does now
03:52 <Lucifer> yes, fun, that's the point of the server
03:52 <smoothice> ok
03:52 <Lucifer> you will have a few fights here and there with players, but probably nothing like this
03:52 <smoothice> yeah
03:52 <smoothice> I prefer to be nice
03:53 <smoothice> I just a had a mini-fight a couple of minutes ago
03:53 <smoothice> so
03:53 <Lucifer> it was a guy who DoS'd lots of servers by using the rip bug, and when I repeatedly confronted him, he attacked me
03:53 <smoothice> I was worried :/
03:53 <smoothice> #help cfg
03:53 <armabot> smoothice: (cfg <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaconfig @1".
03:53 <Lucifer> well, this was a particular pattern of behavior, he had already tried to take down my server by ripping the grid
03:53 <smoothice> #help armaconfig
03:53 <armabot> smoothice: (armaconfig <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armaconfig.php?config=$1".
03:53 <smoothice> Lucifer: oh ok
03:53 <Lucifer> these days the servers are a lot stronger, and characters like that don't last very long in the game
03:53 <Lucifer> there's just so little to exploit
03:53 <Lucifer> if anything, heh
03:54 <Lucifer> so they come in, play a bit, piss a few people off with their attitudes, then move on
03:54 <smoothice> Ok
03:54 <smoothice> Wel
03:54 <smoothice> l
03:54 <Lucifer> we used to keep them longer because we had things they could do to hurt the game
03:54 <smoothice> Thanks for the reassurance
03:54 <Lucifer> I wouldn't sweat it, but if I were to setup another server, I'd keep close logs
03:55 <smoothice> yeah
03:55 <Lucifer> what annoyed me the most about that attack was that I didn' thave the log data I needed to report it
03:55 <smoothice> report it to who?
03:55 <Lucifer> FBI
03:55 <smoothice> oh
03:55 <smoothice> ok
03:56 <smoothice> Yeah I had a mini-dos on a server I had a couple of years ago
03:56 <smoothice> on VNC
03:56 <smoothice> and I was about to report it
03:56 <smoothice> but then didn’t
03:56 <Lucifer> well, at the time I had taken something of a leading role in the server community here, I felt like I had a moral obligation to report it
03:56 <Lucifer> this was before I was drafted onto the development team ;)
03:57 <Lucifer> man, this is ancient history, haha
03:57 <smoothice> yeah
03:57 <smoothice> Interesting nevertheless
03:57 <smoothice> for someone relatively new to Armagetron compared to the rest of you
03:57 <smoothice> :/
03:59 <Lucifer> well, there's a captcha, heh
04:00 <Lucifer> http://tourney.davefancella.com
04:01 <Lucifer> nothing works yet, in fact, I'm still figuring out the zend framework
04:01 <Lucifer> I won't promise it'll be useful ever, I'm using it as a way to figure out the zend framework for my new job
04:01 <Lucifer> when the guy calls tomorrow, I hope to be able to say (if he asks) that I've spent a little time with it
04:02 <smoothice> Tournament Manager?
04:02 <smoothice> Is that like Pink's armaserv?
04:03 <Lucifer> yeah, it's more or less the same thing
04:03 <Lucifer> if I get it to where it's functional, I'll put it up in a bzr repository
04:05 <Lucifer> basically, the way it'll probably go down, if two things happen in the next couple of days:
04:05 <Lucifer> IF
04:05 <Lucifer> A) I get my head wrapped around the zend framework
04:05 <Lucifer> B) Zend is all it's cracked up to be
04:05 <Lucifer> THEN
04:06 <Lucifer> I will have a more or less functional tournament manager that can be used almost immediately in a few days
04:06 <Lucifer> but don't get your hopes up, heh
04:06 <BabyBug> you're nicking other people's ideas!
04:06 <BabyBug> (joking)
04:07 <Lucifer> heh, better read old posts on the forums
04:07 <BabyBug> oh shh
04:07 <BabyBug> lol
04:08 <agent7> cu all bye
04:08 <BabyBug> toodles
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04:22 <ik> Lucifer++
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04:22 <Lucifer> wtf?
04:23 <f00li5h> Lucifer: on #perl ivantus just asked someone to come and moan about his ban
04:23 <f00li5h> ik was there, and decided you deserved karma for it
04:23 <Lucifer> oh, haha
04:23 <f00li5h> so what's the pesky critter do anyway?
04:23 <Lucifer> we dont' have a bot that does karma, I don't think
04:23 <Lucifer> are you from #perl?
04:24 <f00li5h> I am from the internet, i'm here to stick labels on your cats
04:24 <Lucifer> he has this irc bot that he takes around with him that seems to have gotten the best of him
04:24 <Lucifer> so whenever the bot gets here, (heh, I love xkcd), he asks one of us to kick it for him
04:24 <Lucifer> because he can't deal with it
04:24 <Lucifer> so I told him to deal with it
04:24 <Lucifer> and he whined about how it was too hard, supybot is too hard, and have I ever run a supybot, and so forth
04:24 <f00li5h> and then banned him and the robot
04:24 <ct|kyle> \luke-jr--
04:24 <Lucifer> so I banned the lot of him
04:25 <f00li5h> sounds fari enough
04:25 <f00li5h> well, he seems displeased (obviously_) but i'm going to switch back and taunt him some...
04:25 <iank> otoh, kittens have come to gentrify your channel
04:25 <iank> =^_^=
04:25 <f00li5h> meow!
04:25 <Lucifer> heh, have fun pestering the little fuck
04:26 <Lucifer> take comfort knowing you're dealing with a young mind, helping to shape him into an adult
04:26 <Lucifer> and that he needs to be responsible for his bots!
04:28 <Lucifer> er wait a minute, I didn't create the table yet, oops
04:31 <BabyBug> So...ivantis gone means less annoyance and exposure in other channels...It's win win \o/
04:35 <f00li5h> not for me, i can't even read the channel name... the font size is too smal
04:35 <f00li5h> so i'm not really published to ;)
04:36 <Lucifer> yay, now people can register for the tourney manager, but can't do anything, heh
04:36 * Lucifer needs to fix it so the password field stores something that's not plaintext
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04:45 <iank> Lucifer: .. he just found it in his crontab
04:45 <Lucifer> haha
04:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o Lucifer] by ChanServ
04:45 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
04:45 <@Lucifer> ok, I'm removing the ban(s)
04:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] by Lucifer
04:46 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b botvantis!*@*] by Lucifer
04:46 <@Lucifer> I think that's it
04:46 <BabyBug> Do you ever just clean up and remove every ban in the channel?
04:46 <@Lucifer> no
04:47 <@Lucifer> #balist
04:47 <@Lucifer> #banlist
04:47 <@Lucifer> #list channel
04:47 <@armabot> Lucifer: alert, ban add, ban list, ban remove, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, cycle, dehalfop, deop, devoice, disable, enable, halfop, ignore add, ignore list, ignore remove, invite, kban, key, kick, limit, lobotomy add, lobotomy list, lobotomy remove, mode, moderate, nicks, op, unban, unmoderate, and voice
04:47 <@Lucifer> #ban list
04:47 <@armabot> Lucifer: There are no persistent bans on #armagetron.
04:47 <@Lucifer> #unban ivantis2
04:47 <@armabot> Lucifer: Error: 'ivantis2' is not a valid nick or hostmask.
04:47 <@Lucifer> oh well, I think I got them
04:47 <iank> 22:47 -!- 13 - #armagetron: ban *bot*!*@*.kitusa.com [by ballard.freenode.net, 5742206 secs ago]
04:48 <iank> But I'd keep that one.
04:48 <@Lucifer> I think I left that one
04:48 <iank> oh, and you banned his ipv6 host at one point
04:48 <@Lucifer> guru3 did that
04:48 <iank> ... and again, but with *bot in the nick -_-
04:48 <iank> This guy's got a lot of bans.
04:48 -!- mode/#armagetron [-b *!*n=ivantis@2002:3ff5:9f4e:1234:20c:f1ff:fea6:*] by Lucifer
04:48 <@Lucifer> he always tries to get around them immediately and beg for mercy
04:49 <@Lucifer> which usually provokes a ban against whatever workaround he used
04:49 <@Lucifer> he needs to act his age, seriously
04:49 <iank> As it should
04:49 <@Lucifer> I already have three kids, I don't need another one, heh
04:50 <luke-jr> Lucifer: what about clans⁇?
04:50 <@Lucifer> luke-jr: what about clans?
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04:51 <ivantis2> guess what!
04:52 <ivantis2> i figured out the ivantis3 issue!
04:52 <BabyBug> He's annoying already
04:53 <ivantis2> he was on crontab
04:54 <luke-jr> [20:37:49] <Lucifer> luke-jr: I don't intend to directly support clans, heh
04:54 <luke-jr> Lucifer: why exactly was ivantis2 just unbanned?
04:54 <ivantis2> but i havent figured out the ghost who is editing my configuration files
04:54 <@Lucifer> because he thinks he figured out why his bot kept coming in
04:54 <luke-jr> and?
04:54 <@Lucifer> so if he can control his bot, he can stay?
04:54 <@Lucifer> I banned him over that
04:54 <@Lucifer> if somebody banned him over something else, I'm unaware of it
04:54 <@Lucifer> and no, I don't intend to directly support clans
04:55 <@Lucifer> but I do intend to have formal teams with rosters
04:55 <@Lucifer> clans can just register as a team
04:55 <@Lucifer> if clans want more than one team, they can do that, and naming the teams is their problem :)
04:55 <ivantis2> i use the bot for other channels, and i cant make the configuration files change correctly
04:55 <luke-jr> wtf are you talking about, though?
04:55 <ivantis2> hold on allow me to try again
04:56 <luke-jr> and, more importantly, how does it involve me?
04:58 <ivantis2> is ivantis3 still banned?
04:58 <ivantis2> i just tried to edit the conf
04:58 <@Lucifer> maybe, maybe not
04:58 <ivantis2> removing #armagetron
04:58 <ivantis2> i think it worked
04:58 <@Lucifer> supybot regularly saves its configuration file
04:58 <ivantis2> oh no wonder
04:58 <@Lucifer> if supybot is running, you have to use regular commands to change its config, otherwise it'll overwrite your changes
04:59 <@Lucifer> THAT'S IN THE FUCKING DOCS!
04:59 <ivantis2> i thought i told you i was allergic to man pages?
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05:01 <ivantis2> hmm i guess my computer isnt haunted
05:04 <@Lucifer> does sqlite have an MD5 function?
05:05 <BabyBug> I'm going to say no, but i could be very wrong
05:06 <@Lucifer> doesn't look like
05:06 <@Lucifer> it
05:07 <smoothice> How do you restrict the number of players allowed on the arma server grid?
05:07 <smoothice> And make everyone else spec
05:08 <@Lucifer> beats me
05:08 <smoothice> ok
05:09 <smoothice> anyone?
05:09 <BabyBug> combination of max_teams and maximum number of people on a team?
05:09 <BabyBug> (guess)
05:10 <@Lucifer> there's a max_players thing, I'm sure
05:10 <BabyBug> #cfg2 max_players
05:10 <@armabot> BabyBug: MAX_PLAYERS_SAME_IP: maximum number of players from the same IP (note that each client can legally host up to four players) || SP_TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS: Maximum number of players per team in single player mode || TEAM_MAX_PLAYERS: Maximum number of players per team
05:10 <BabyBug> not sure enough it seems =P
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05:16 <@Lucifer> maybe BabyBug (hi there!) is right, heh
05:17 <@Lucifer> max_players 1
05:17 <@Lucifer> max_teams 8
05:17 <@Lucifer> sounds awfully familiar
05:17 <BabyBug> team_max_players*
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05:21 <@Lucifer> yeah, whatever
05:21 <@Lucifer> it's been something like 2 years since I've operated a server
05:24 <smoothice> #cfg2 max_teams
05:24 <@armabot> smoothice: Sorry, no matches :S
05:24 <smoothice> Lucifer: no max_teams lol
05:29 <BabyBug> #cfg2 teams_max
05:29 <@armabot> BabyBug: SP_TEAMS_MAX: Maximum number of teams in single player mode || TEAMS_MAX: Maximum number of teams
05:29 <BabyBug> #cfg2 players_max
05:29 <@armabot> BabyBug: Sorry, no matches :S
05:31 <smoothice> BabyBug: TEAMS_MAX... that will work
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06:32 <smoothice> #sd iD Tech Racing
06:32 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “id tech racing” at the moment, sorry.
06:32 <smoothice> #sd Tech Racing
06:32 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tech racing” at the moment, sorry.
06:32 <smoothice> #sd internalDrive racing
06:33 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “internaldrive racing” at the moment, sorry.
06:33 <smoothice> #sd Night Walker
06:33 <@armabot> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~CTF~: Players (0/8):
06:41 -!- mode/#armagetron [-o Lucifer] by Lucifer
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07:15 <smoothice> #cfg2 sinclude
07:15 <@armabot> smoothice: SINCLUDE: Includes the following file silently, without error message if it is not found
07:15 <smoothice> #cfg2 rinclude
07:15 <@armabot> smoothice: RINCLUDE: Includes a file using the resource system. Use the direct link syntax to your profit here.
07:15 <smoothice> #cfg2 clude
07:15 <@armabot> smoothice: ACCESS_LEVEL_VOTE_INCLUDE: Minimal access level required to issue inclue votes. || ACCESS_LEVEL_VOTE_INCLUDE_EXECUTE: Minimal access level successful include votes will be executed at. || INCLUDE: Includes the following file || RINCLUDE: Includes a file using the resource system. Use the direct link syntax to your profit here. || SINCLUDE: Includes the following file silently, without (1 more message)
07:16 <epsy> what are you looking for?
07:16 <epsy> morning
07:20 <smoothice> epsy: it's 11 pm here
07:20 <smoothice> epsy: lol
07:20 <smoothice> I'm just looking at include stuff
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07:21 <epsy> 7:20 here :<
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07:21 * BabyBug hits epsy with a rock!
07:21 <epsy> morgning BabyBug
07:21 <BabyBug> Morning =)
07:21 <epsy> why me?!
07:21 <BabyBug> Because you spoke first
07:22 <epsy> can't hear you
07:22 * BabyBug really needs to learn how to sleep again =x
07:23 <epsy> ah yeah I hated that
07:25 <BabyBug> i blame Lucifer for it
07:25 <Lucifer> yaright
07:25 <epsy> may I ask what he put in your head?
07:26 <Lucifer> it's really my fault you can't sleep at normal nighttime hours
07:26 <epsy> hello luci
07:26 <Lucifer> she's enchanted with my charming internet persona
07:26 <BabyBug> yes it is! you kept me awake with your sex chats!
07:26 <Lucifer> morning epsy
07:26 <epsy> :°
07:26 <epsy> :)
07:26 <epsy> (damn me forgetting to run xmodmap)
07:26 <Lucifer> haha
07:27 <epsy> how's the 'MCS' going?
07:27 <Lucifer> MCS?
07:28 <epsy> @aawikis match coordination
07:28 <teabot> epsy: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Match_coordinator_module - Match coordinator module - Armagetron Advanced Wiki
07:28 <Lucifer> hmmm, you can login and logout
07:28 <Lucifer> that's it so far
07:28 <Lucifer> heh
07:28 * Lucifer doesn't like the zend framework docs
07:29 <epsy> using an aagid? :)
07:29 <Lucifer> no, heh
07:29 <Lucifer> not just no but hell no
07:29 <epsy> >:O
07:29 <Lucifer> that's for later, when I know more about the zend framework
07:29 <Lucifer> if I ever get that far, I'm doing it right now to get my bearings on the toolkit
07:29 <Lucifer> so it is likely it's code I'll abandon soon, before it's functional for it's intended purpose
07:30 <Lucifer> and since it uses a fancy MVC framework, I guarantee nobody in the community will pick it up and run with it
07:30 <epsy> heh
07:30 <epsy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-http-auth-client-work/annotate/head%3A/webform/test.php
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07:31 <Lucifer> hmmmm, what should be on a player's default profile page?
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07:32 <epsy> what matches he played last
07:32 <epsy> erm, but before that
07:32 <Lucifer> ok, when all that exists is a user table, what should be on a player's default profile page?
07:32 <epsy> nickname, last teams he played with
07:32 <BabyBug> fortress position?
07:32 <epsy> and maybe some win/losss statistics, points earned, points given etc
07:32 <Lucifer> there epsy goes again, jumping to the finish, heh
07:33 <epsy> and a little bie all for the user
07:33 <Lucifer> NONE OF THAT EXISTS! And it'll take many man hours to write it all
07:33 <epsy> bio*
07:33 <Lucifer> ok, lemme ask the question slightly differently
07:33 <epsy> you're asking me what you should find on a player's page!
07:33 <Lucifer> should a player's default profile page be a page that allows them to edit their player information,
07:33 <Lucifer> or a page that acts like the dashboard you've described?
07:33 <BabyBug> Yes
07:33 <BabyBug> the first
07:33 <epsy> you should have both
07:34 <epsy> otherwise that's pretty frustrating
07:34 <Lucifer> man, I just want to hurry up and get to the part where a player can create a team, and a user can create a tournament and schedule matches
07:35 <Lucifer> all the rest of this stuff comes after that :)
07:35 <BabyBug> What actually is the zend framework? :P
07:35 <epsy> so just have a page where you can see the user's nickname and a page where the user can edit his details
07:35 <Lucifer> oh yeah, and a player who is the captain of the team can sign the team up for a tournament/match
07:35 <epsy> BabyBug, err, PHP?
07:35 <BabyBug> Well yeh...but..what it is..
07:35 <Lucifer> http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/introduction.html
07:36 <epsy> yes, that's what it is to participate for a team
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07:41 <Lucifer> heh, I think I'll start with just a single link to create a team :)
07:43 <Lucifer> it's fairly straightforward to rearrange shit later
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07:49 <smoothice> how do you make --vardir create a console log?
07:49 <smoothice> at the moment it is only creating bans.txt master.srv players.txt scorelog.txt
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07:52 <epsy> bbl
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10:19 <wrtlprnft> #later tell smoothice you don't, you use >>console_log_file or | tee -a console_log_file
10:19 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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11:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8866 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/tools/tLocale.cpp): Manuel Moos: Fixed line breaking crash in utf8 mode.
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11:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r814 Gave rTextField::GetTextLength overloads different names and... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r813 Fixed line breaking crash in utf8 mode....
11:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8867 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/render/rFont.h):
11:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
11:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: Gave rTextField::GetTextLength overloads different names and argument
11:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: lists so one can call them selectively.
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12:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8868 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
12:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
12:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: Old user configuration files are now read in latin1 mode,
12:13 <@armabot> armagetronad: and the validity of the utf8 of new files is verified.
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12:17 <Flex> #hello
12:17 <@armabot> Hello Flex :) Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
12:18 <Flex> hmm, a nice justification of negligence..
12:20 * z-man opens the Bush Countdown Clock
12:34 * fonkay is taking a snowday
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12:38 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r815 Old user configuration files are now read in latin1 mode,...
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15:12 <smoothice> Mornin' all!
15:18 <K-Yo> hi smoothice
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16:28 * Lucifer is randomly shivering
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16:28 <CodeHunter> Morning guys
16:28 <PinkTomato> afternoon
16:28 <smoothice> yeah
16:28 <smoothice> morning
16:28 <smoothice> lol
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16:28 <Lucifer> morning
16:28 <z-man> afternoon
16:28 <z-man> Which reminds me, coffee time
16:28 <smoothice> haha
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16:36 <z-man> oh
16:37 <z-man> I keep misremembering Google Protocol Buffers as Google Pattern Buffers.
16:41 <smoothice> ct|kyle: No way to check access level in PHP?
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16:42 <ct|kyle> smoothice: only on /cmd i think
16:51 <ct|kyle> #llog COMMAND
16:51 <smoothice> armabot died
16:51 <smoothice> ^
16:51 <PinkTomato> we can't check the weather now.
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16:51 <smoothice> lol
16:51 <PinkTomato> we will have to use the window!
16:51 <ct|kyle> .llog COMMAND
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: ADMIN_COMMAND: [laddername] [ip] [access level] [command] [options] || COMMAND: [laddername] [ip] [access level] [message] || INVALID_COMMAND: [command] [laddername] [ip] [access level] [message]
16:51 <smoothice> Does that get written to ladderlog immediately?
16:51 <ct|kyle> .weather 46814
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is -11.5°C (10:29 AM EST on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010.4 hPa (Falling).
16:51 <ct|kyle> smoothice: those 3 are for is someone write /fdjkgfdg' (something that does not exist) or /cmd or /admin
16:51 <PinkTomato> tronnerbot uses a scale that makes sense!
16:51 <smoothice> or NOT!
16:51 <smoothice> lol
16:51 <ct|kyle> .llog online_pl
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: ONLINE_PLAYER: [name] [red] [green] [blue] [Ping] [team]
16:51 <smoothice> what does that do
16:51 <ct|kyle> ^^ that is where it should be :)
16:51 <ct|kyle> .llog Player_re
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: PLAYER_RENAMED: [oldladdername] [laddername] [ip] [authenticated] [newdisplayname]
16:51 <ct|kyle> .help weather
16:51 <tronner> ct|kyle: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
16:51 <smoothice> .part
16:51 <PinkTomato> .weather Brighton, UK
16:51 <tronner> PinkTomato: The current temperature in Preston Park, Brighton, United Kingdom is 6.1°C (3:47 PM GMT on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 28.93 in 979.6 hPa (Steady).
16:51 <smoothice> .weather 60640
16:51 <tronner> smoothice: The current temperature in Uptown, Chicago, Illinois is -7.0°C (9:47 AM CST on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010.0 hPa (Rising).
16:51 <PinkTomato> you win, as usual ;)
16:51 <smoothice> :P
16:51 <smoothice> .weather 80910
16:51 <tronner> smoothice: The current temperature in Pikes Peak Park, Colorado Springs, Colorado is 8.2°C (8:48 AM MST on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021.2 hPa (Rising).
16:51 <z-man> What sense does that make? "You can check for things like the machine's endianness when your program initializes itself."
16:51 <z-man> From the autoconf docs.
16:51 <z-man> Is there a single case where a compiler doesn't know the endianness of the system it's compiling for?
16:51 * z-man 's mind boggles
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16:57 <MrBougo> .weather brussels belgium
16:58 <tronner> MrBougo: The current temperature in Brussels, Belgium is 9.0°C (4:50 PM CET on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.03 in 983 hPa (Falling).
16:58 <MrBougo> it's hot in belgium!
17:02 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
17:03 <Lucifer> z-man: mac os x universal binaries?
17:03 <Lucifer> .weather 78729
17:03 <tronner> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 17.2°C (10:00 AM CST on January 19, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 23%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019.5 hPa (Rising).
17:03 <z-man> Even there, the compiler knows the endianness in advance.
17:03 <z-man> You just can't detect it in a configure script :)
17:03 <Lucifer> but the endianness could be different at runtime, right?
17:04 <z-man> yes, but still, you can compile the two binaries with two different values set.
17:04 <Lucifer> heh, you're kinda right that the compiler *has* to know the endianness in advance or it wouldn't work at all
17:04 * z-man checks what he does in Ded*
17:04 <z-man> ah, #include <endian.h> :)
17:05 <Lucifer> I've seen code that checks, though
17:05 <Lucifer> because when you have to read/write binary files that are the same everywhere, you need to know and do the right thing
17:05 <Lucifer> but nothing is needed in configure to do that, heh
17:06 <Lucifer> my son is building a solar-powered car
17:06 <z-man> cool
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17:17 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: or a Perl script that happens to write a log with that daa
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18:08 <madmax> z-man, luke-jr, wrtlprnft, Lucifer: just in case you missed it http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18981
18:11 <luke-jr> I don't really care for Fortress…
18:11 <luke-jr> I mostly enjoy TKing people when I play it
18:11 <madmax> pfft.
18:12 <z-man> where's the problem? :)
18:17 <luke-jr> ?
18:23 <z-man> That you enjoy teamkilling.
18:23 <z-man> Nobody said we'd need to win.
18:23 <luke-jr> heh
18:23 <luke-jr> most of the time it pisses people off
18:23 <luke-jr> ☺
18:23 <Flex> omg you bastard luke-jr
18:23 <Flex> i hate you
18:23 <Flex> i'm going to find you and tk you back.. some time..
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18:29 <BabyBug> \o
18:29 <PinkTomato> Hello BabyBug! *waves*
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18:49 <luke-jr> Flex: ROFL
18:49 * luke-jr deploys his new 2009 prices.
18:49 * epsy was squished
18:50 <epsy> #ping
18:50 <epsy> @ping
18:50 <teabot> pong
18:50 <epsy> for one time teabot is faster than armabot, armabot(s not here
18:51 <luke-jr> hey so
18:51 <luke-jr> is my website not clear that "per slot per month" is just "per month" cut up?
18:51 <luke-jr> and not "additional cost"?
18:51 <epsy> lol..
18:51 <epsy> stupid people sometimes..
18:51 <luke-jr> well, how can I make it clear? :/
18:51 <epsy> it's crystal clear to me
18:53 <PinkTomato> maybe if it wasn't emphasised as much, even so, like epsy said, makes sense to me
18:54 <fonkay> ugh
18:54 <akira_arma> agh
18:54 <akira_arma> #tea
18:54 <epsy> doh
18:54 <epsy> doh
18:54 <epsy> doh
18:54 <epsy> doh
18:55 <epsy> @tea
18:55 <PinkTomato> d'oh
18:55 * akira_arma mutilates epsy
18:55 * fonkay is having a very shitty day.
18:55 <epsy> iroumpf
18:55 <PinkTomato> :(
18:55 <teabot> epsy: timed out
18:55 <PinkTomato> why so?
18:55 * akira_arma hugs fonk
18:55 * luke-jr plots adding VPS to his service availability.
18:55 * epsy prefers visor to sarge actually
18:55 <epsy> ha - ha - ha
18:56 <fonkay> So far... I've had to miss a day of work, got into a car accident and got a parking ticket.
18:56 <akira_arma> :o
18:56 <PinkTomato> :( fonkay.
18:56 <ct|kyle> wow fonkay, you are having a bad day, (i broke a window yesterday)
18:57 <PinkTomato> hope tomorrow will make up for it :)
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18:59 <epsy> I love when guests are "Checking their private messages" in phpbb
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19:01 <ct|kyle> epsy: ya i know :P
19:01 <fonkay> stalkers
19:04 <Flex> wasn't it all VPS luke-jr?
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19:07 <epsy> haha, here's one
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19:08 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/phpbbrocks.png
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19:08 <PinkTomato> O_O
19:08 <PinkTomato> how can a guest check a PM?
19:09 <PinkTomato> is it a hidden user?
19:09 <Genki> <3 MrBougo
19:09 <Genki> aww no!
19:09 <Genki> it doesn't work!
19:10 <MrBougo> hello
19:10 <Genki> T.T
19:10 <PinkTomato> what does not work Genki :)?
19:10 <Genki> heya
19:10 <MrBougo> I love you too <3
19:10 <Genki> MrBougo: where's your bot?
19:10 <MrBougo> my bot?
19:10 <Genki> jaja
19:10 <MrBougo> ah lol
19:10 <MrBougo> mrboto
19:10 <Genki> jaja!
19:10 <Genki> he <3's me
19:10 <MrBougo> well I was on windows back then
19:10 <Genki> nuuuuuu!
19:10 <Genki> is he dead?
19:10 <MrBougo> didn't keep the config files of my supybot
19:10 <MrBougo> I fear he is
19:10 <Genki> T.T
19:11 <Genki> MrBoto R.I.P. <3
19:11 <Genki> Worm btw
19:11 <Genki> or stempo
19:11 <Genki> or whatever name I went bye
19:11 <Genki> by*
19:12 <Genki> Flex: I got so close to beating you, but I lag T.T
19:12 <Flex> look at the score board again ;)
19:12 <Genki> oh no
19:13 <Genki> !!!
19:13 <Genki> not again!
19:14 <Genki> I'll play later when my download finishes up
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19:49 <luke-jr> Flex: what?
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19:56 <luke-jr> What do you guys think? http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=vps
19:57 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: why should I pay 1 less £1 and get 256MB RAM?
19:58 <PinkTomato> and if they run on the same servers currently the price is very good :D
19:59 <PinkTomato> (as we know the servers are v.good)
19:59 <Flex> no europe luke-jr?
20:00 <luke-jr> Flex: not for VPS
20:00 <Flex> http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=armagetron
20:00 <Flex> pound sterling
20:00 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: uh. what?
20:00 <Flex> prices are mixed up
20:00 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: I don't have 256 MB RAM plan right now
20:00 <luke-jr> Flex: ⁇?
20:00 <Flex> cheaper for a 32 slot than a 4 slot..
20:01 <Flex> oh nm
20:01 <Flex> that's per slot :p
20:01 <luke-jr> :þ
20:01 <Flex> put that on the middle, that's a good suggestion
20:01 <luke-jr> I made it so each tier of Arma hosting is ~10% discount
20:01 <luke-jr> on the middle?
20:01 <Flex> put the per month at the end
20:01 <PinkTomato> 16GB HD/256MB Transfer is £10, 32/512MB Transfer is £11, but I got confused and thought it was RAM.
20:02 <luke-jr> oh , I see
20:02 <luke-jr> i c
20:03 <PinkTomato> i was wondering why anyone would go for the 256MB package, but as its transfer and HD, some people might as well save £1
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20:04 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: some currencies, the price diff is a little bigger
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20:07 <luke-jr> Flex: http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=armagetron
20:07 <Flex> yup
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20:10 <luke-jr> so back to VPSes
20:10 <luke-jr> how much should I charge for my control panel, and managed hostign?
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20:10 <Flex> oops
20:10 <luke-jr> …
20:11 <Flex> i was holding shift..
20:11 <Lizmatic> dummy
20:11 <luke-jr> [13:10:12] <luke-jr> so back to VPSes
20:11 <luke-jr> [13:10:20] <luke-jr> how much should I charge for my control panel, and managed hostign?
20:11 <Flex> free of charge?! :p
20:11 <luke-jr> uh
20:11 <luke-jr> no :þ
20:11 <epsy> lol
20:11 <luke-jr> then I go broke
20:12 <luke-jr> and don't pay server bills
20:12 <luke-jr> etc
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20:16 <PinkTomato> same as you charge for your current control panels?
20:16 <Flex> how much does it cost you?
20:18 <PinkTomato> #g 10 GBP in USD
20:18 <PinkTomato> wow, the £ really is bad atm
20:19 <Flex> omg..
20:20 <Flex> pound is under the euro... fook
20:20 <PinkTomato> #g 1GBP in EUR
20:20 <PinkTomato> oh armabot isn't here LOL
20:20 <PinkTomato> .g 1GBP in EUR
20:20 <tronner> PinkTomato: http://www.xe.com/ - XE - The World's Favorite Currency and Foreign Exchange Site
20:21 <PinkTomato> -.-
20:21 <Flex> ohh wait
20:21 <MaZuffeR> .g 1 gbp in eur
20:21 <Flex> that was usd
20:21 <tronner> MaZuffeR: http://www.xe.com/ - XE - The World's Favorite Currency and Foreign Exchange Site
20:21 <Flex> phew
20:21 <MaZuffeR> damn
20:21 <Flex> 1.00 GBP =1.10242 EUR
20:21 <PinkTomato> ah, it's picked up a little bit
20:21 <Flex> pound is still safe, by 10% :p
20:22 <Flex> the days of double euro are long gone..
20:22 <PinkTomato> yeah :(, I dislike currency markets,
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20:24 <Flex> uk is too cool for the euro
20:24 <Flex> tbh
20:24 <Lizmatic> also too cool for dental care
20:24 <PinkTomato> The euro is a nice idea in principle.
20:24 <Flex> lol
20:24 <PinkTomato> Just its one of those things that just won't work in the UK in practice
20:25 <PinkTomato> Lizmatic: I agree.
20:25 <PinkTomato> :D
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20:25 <madmax> why so?
20:25 <Flex> tuga is here!
20:25 <PinkTomato> madmax: because UK people are too proud of the £
20:25 <Flex> it's not exactly that.. PinkTomato
20:26 <PinkTomato> Well the £ was doing brilliantly 6 months ago
20:26 <Flex> i believe it's also an economical factor.. we'll switch once the pound doesn't benefit us..
20:27 <Flex> relating to high taxes too..
20:27 <PinkTomato> Flex: I see your point, it would harm us greatly if we switched now. It is only when things are going wrong is when you want to switch
20:27 <PinkTomato> and that is the wrong time to do so,
20:27 <Flex> yeah
20:28 <Flex> those nationalists don't have shit of an opinion
20:28 <PinkTomato> Flex: ?
20:28 <Flex> nothing :p
20:28 <PinkTomato> ok :)
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20:29 <luke-jr> …
20:30 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: ?
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20:32 <PinkTomato> oh you charged the same for arma control panel as the other control panels :)
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20:34 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: they all have different prices..
20:34 <PinkTomato> arma, directadmin are the same
20:34 <luke-jr> I picked the middle one cuz my Arma control panel doesn't have an admin side ☺
20:34 <animuson> tomato doesnt know what this error means: http://pastebin.com/m772ba84f
20:35 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: :), also what has happened to liberty dollar prices :O, they used to be 1:1 with $USD
20:35 * PinkTomato does not know what a liberty dollar is either :)
20:36 <PinkTomato> animuson: It's just an odd error... you should have bash installed surely
20:36 <animuson> its that ^M thing again
20:36 <animuson> like it did with the php class before
20:36 <PinkTomato> ah
20:36 <PinkTomato> well remove the ^M
20:36 <PinkTomato> :)
20:37 <animuson> there is no ^M in the file
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20:37 <PinkTomato> well there must be
20:37 <PinkTomato> use nano
20:37 <animuson> well there isnt
20:37 <animuson> :P
20:37 <PinkTomato> what program did you use?
20:38 <animuson> wordpad
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20:38 <PinkTomato> there's your problem, Windows screws up the line endings and beginnings of files.
20:38 <PinkTomato> (well that's up to interpretation)
20:39 <PinkTomato> does the ^M appear in nano?
20:39 <animuson> :P
20:41 <PinkTomato> well :)?
20:42 <animuson> well the server starts
20:43 <animuson> still doesnt change the map though :P
20:44 <animuson> how do u exit a screen session without stopping it?
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20:44 <PinkTomato> C-a D
20:44 <epsy> ^a d
20:44 <dlh> Where is armabot?
20:44 <epsy> timeout'd
20:45 <dlh> She is missing my aabeta release :|
20:45 <dlh> and I don't have permission to update the releases list on aabeta
20:46 <PinkTomato> animuson: screen -r cycle_racing
20:46 <PinkTomato> respond with error
20:47 <epsy> bbl
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20:48 <wrtlprnft> #ping
20:49 <wrtlprnft> err
20:49 <animuson> -> /etc/arma/scripts/start_cycle.sh: line 7: inotail: command not found
20:49 <wrtlprnft> err, she ran out of RAM
20:49 <wrtlprnft> she eats a lot of that and gets quite fine over time
20:50 <wrtlprnft> dlh: i manually triggered an update
20:50 <dlh> thanks
20:50 <wrtlprnft> yw
20:50 <wrtlprnft> s/fine/fat
20:50 <wrtlprnft> wtf's up with my typing
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20:50 <wrtlprnft> #ping
20:51 <animuson> tomato you still here?
20:51 <PinkTomato> animuson: I told you you need to apt-get install inotail
20:51 <armabot> pong
20:51 <animuson> dont remember that :P
20:52 <PinkTomato> well
20:52 <PinkTomato> i might have told smoothice...
20:53 <PinkTomato> anyways do that and report back with the next error :)
20:53 <animuson> all it says is WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT 1
20:53 <animuson> :-/
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20:53 <PinkTomato> do you have a racing.cycle.php?
20:54 <animuson> yea
20:54 <PinkTomato> put in that a new if
20:54 <animuson> o.O
20:54 <PinkTomato> strstr "CHAT" or something, and within that put echo "CONSOLE_MESSAGE Hurrah!\n";
20:55 <PinkTomato> you've done PHP right ?
20:55 <PinkTomato> also mine requires sty+ct branch
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20:56 <PinkTomato> #llog chat
20:56 <armabot> PinkTomato: CHAT: [player] [message]
20:56 <PinkTomato> #llog round_commenc
20:56 <armabot> PinkTomato: Sorry, no matches :S
20:56 <PinkTomato> #llog round_
20:56 <armabot> PinkTomato: ROUND_WINNER: [team]
20:57 <PinkTomato> #more
20:57 <armabot> PinkTomato: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
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21:05 <smoothice> animuson: Hi
21:05 <animuson> hey smoothice :)
21:07 <smoothice> #help llog
21:07 <armabot> smoothice: (llog <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "rss http://crazy-tronners.com/ladderlogconfig.php?config=$1".
21:07 <PinkTomato> smoothice trying to do the same as animuson?
21:09 <smoothice> PinkTomato: what is animuson trying to do?
21:09 <akira_arma> @tea
21:09 <teabot> akira_arma: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Can't connect to local MySQL server (2 more messages)
21:09 <akira_arma> :O
21:09 <PinkTomato> smoothice: round rotation
21:09 <ct|kyle> .tea
21:09 <tronner> ct|kyle: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
21:10 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: Liberty Dollars wasn't supposed to ever be 1:1 with USD
21:10 <smoothice> PinkTomato: config rotate?
21:10 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: Liberty Dollars are not worth face value in USD
21:10 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: oh :)
21:10 <PinkTomato> smoothice: map rotation yeap :)
21:10 <ct|kyle> that is easy
21:10 <smoothice> PinkTomato: That's relative easy with a switch statement in php
21:10 <smoothice> and rand()
21:10 <smoothice> relatively
21:11 <ct|kyle> let me see what part of the code i can fork up to ct's wiki
21:11 <PinkTomato> animuson:
21:11 <luke-jr> What do you guys think? http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=vps
21:11 <PinkTomato> has the ct wiki code,
21:11 <smoothice> Does ADMIN_PASS still function with --enable-armathenication?
21:11 <PinkTomato> just needs the LADDERLOG_ROUND_COMMENCING correct spelling
21:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: What OS do they run
21:12 <z-man> smoothice: no.
21:12 <smoothice> z-man: Any way around that? I'd like to use armathenication to control access levels but also want a standardized password
21:13 <z-man> umm, a standardized password for different access levels?
21:13 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I liked the ones you gave me earlyer
21:13 <z-man> Or an equivalent of
21:13 <z-man> ADMIN_PASS blarg
21:13 <smoothice> ermm
21:13 <z-man> MODERATOR_PASS blurg
21:13 <z-man> ?
21:14 <smoothice> well
21:14 <smoothice> Our clan uses ADMIN_PASS across all our servers.. however that doesn't work with sty+ct
21:14 <ct|kyle> PASS_LEVEL 0 bling PASS_LEVEL 1 Blang
21:15 <ct|kyle> :P
21:15 <smoothice> :O
21:15 <smoothice> that exists?
21:15 <ct|kyle> smoothice: no
21:15 <PinkTomato> LOL
21:15 <smoothice> *sigh*
21:15 <smoothice> :/
21:15 <e_n_d_e_r> hah
21:15 <z-man> you can use
21:15 <ct|kyle> smoothice: but that is basically what z-man was saying
21:15 <z-man> LOCAL_USER admin <admin password>
21:15 <z-man> LOCAL_USER moderator <moderator password>
21:16 <z-man> and then give them the access levels.
21:16 <ct|kyle> Userlevele admin@ 1
21:16 <smoothice> ct|kyle, z-man: I'm writing a PHP script that needs to check the access level or a user, but our clan is used to using ADMIN_PASS.
21:16 <ct|kyle> USER_LEVEL*
21:16 <smoothice> of a *
21:16 <z-man> Then don't use armathentication.
21:16 <ct|kyle> .llog admin
21:16 <tronner> ct|kyle: ADMIN_COMMAND: [laddername] [ip] [access level] [command] [options]
21:17 <smoothice> but the access level only works when armathenication is enabled, right?
21:17 <smoothice> in the ADMIN_COMMAND ladderlog write
21:17 <ct|kyle> not 100% sure, i know it will show 20 if dissables on a normal user
21:17 <PinkTomato> I think there is a ladderlog_write when a user logs in
21:18 <ct|kyle> .cfg2 write_ad
21:18 <tronner> ct|kyle: LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_COMMAND: ladderlog_write_admin_command_help || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGIN: ladderlog_write_admin_login_help || LADDERLOG_WRITE_ADMIN_LOGOUT: ladderlog_write_admin_logout_help
21:18 <ct|kyle> smoothice: that is what you want
21:18 <smoothice> ok
21:18 <smoothice> so I want it to write admin_command
21:18 <smoothice> and
21:18 <smoothice> If I'm _not_ using armathenication
21:18 <smoothice> then
21:18 <smoothice> It will write
21:19 <smoothice> ADMIN_COMMAND smoothice~nw 0.0.0.0 1 say hi
21:19 <ct|kyle> wait
21:19 <ct|kyle> ACCESS_LEVEL is the 1
21:19 <smoothice> yes
21:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: Debian etc
21:20 <smoothice> In other words I'm asking if armathenication isn't enabled then are Administrations still perceived as access level of 1
21:20 <smoothice> tors*
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21:20 <ct|kyle> smoothice: looks that way
21:21 <smoothice> ct|kyle: Alright, good
21:21 <smoothice> When will armathenication because standard in 0.2.8
21:21 <smoothice> become*
21:21 <PinkTomato> I think it already is ?
21:21 <smoothice> Is it?
21:22 <z-man> no.
21:22 <smoothice> figured
21:22 <z-man> It's standard on trunk, I think
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21:22 <z-man> and therefore will be standard in 0.3.1.
21:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: never
21:22 <nsh22> hey
21:22 <smoothice> never :O ?
21:22 <z-man> never in 0.2.8 :)
21:22 <luke-jr> smoothice: 0.2.8 is stable/compatible
21:22 <luke-jr> auth is inherently new/incompatible
21:22 <ct|kyle> wait won't it become standard on 0.2.8.3
21:22 <z-man> no.
21:23 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it will be a configure option, disabled by default
21:23 <ct|kyle> ok
21:23 <ct|kyle> z-man: are you going to play in the ladle :)
21:24 <z-man> I can't admin and play at the same time.
21:24 <z-man> Tried it.
21:24 <ct|kyle> servers are self admining now :)
21:24 <smoothice> luke-jr: I guess that makes sense then
21:24 <z-man> Still, as the person responsible, you still have to check for stuff happening.
21:24 <z-man> like noisy spectators.
21:24 <ct|kyle> as long as you make the team leaders an admin :P
21:24 <smoothice> nsh22: CTFS server up
21:25 <nsh22> smoothice wewt
21:26 <luke-jr> z-man: did the ladderlog compatibility issue ever get fixed, btw?
21:27 <z-man> You know my stance: it never was a problem.
21:27 -!- arrow [n=euclid@adsl-d33.84-47-4.t-com.sk] has quit ["Leaving."]
21:27 <z-man> (if you mean the username format change)
21:27 <luke-jr> breaking compatibility of a stable release is not a problem?
21:28 <z-man> It isn't breaking compatibility. There never was a promise usernames would stay stable.
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21:28 <luke-jr> sigh
21:29 <luke-jr> it's not compatible, so by definition it's breaking compatibility
21:31 <Lucifer> fonkay: did you think that brakes were for sissies? You know, you should use your brakes in your real car....
21:31 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I haven't been putting the pre-alphas on aabeta, sorry
21:31 <Lucifer> main reason is that the two builds I made were both made before you made the account ;)
21:31 <luke-jr> Lucifer: can always upload post-hoc
21:32 <Lucifer> the first alpha I released got destroyed by accident ;)
21:32 <Lucifer> I may put the second up, we'll see
21:32 <Lucifer> a little busy right now, getting caught up with communication so I can put a movie on for the kids
21:32 -!- smoothice is now known as smoothice_away
21:34 <nsh22> luke-jr : will lucifers map rotator work on your servers?
21:34 <ct|kyle> #ping
21:34 <armabot> pong
21:34 <ct|kyle> .part
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21:36 <PinkTomato> nsh22: see http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Map/Config_Rotation
21:39 <luke-jr> nsh22: no idea, never seen it
21:40 <luke-jr> nsh22: I have a simple one, it rotates maps (or configs) and messages (said by Admin each round IIRC)
21:40 <luke-jr> ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE actually
21:40 <luke-jr> 31 lines :þ
21:41 <luke-jr> you just upload messages.txt and rmaps.txt/rconfig.txt
21:41 <luke-jr> nsh22: want it?
21:41 <wrtlprnft> z-man: sorry, i forgot they were still linked to my server
21:41 <wrtlprnft> z-man: the binary resources i mean
21:42 <luke-jr> O.o
21:42 <wrtlprnft> now i have a log entry for everyone who tried it out… neat
21:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: what do you think of my VPS hosting?
21:42 <wrtlprnft> what vps hosting?
21:43 <z-man> wrtlprnft: np :) I wanted to do that anyway.
21:43 <z-man> We don't want distributed versions to download stuff on the first go, do we?
21:43 <wrtlprnft> in theory you could have svn cp'd floor-1.aatex.png, though
21:44 <wrtlprnft> no, of course not
21:44 <wrtlprnft> the clock thing is more like a proof of concept, anyways
21:50 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=vps
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21:53 <Lizmatic> http://www.costofsex.com/
21:54 <wrtlprnft> meh, VPSs always have way too much disk space
21:54 <luke-jr> XD
21:54 <wrtlprnft> you can barely use them to download the occasional torrent
21:54 <wrtlprnft> err
21:54 <wrtlprnft> little
21:54 <wrtlprnft> grml
21:56 <z-man> They also have a ridiculously low amount of maximum processes.
21:56 <z-man> Something around <base system usage> * 2.
21:57 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i noticed that you can't do make -j2 on ct's server
21:57 <PinkTomato> what does -j2 do?
21:57 <wrtlprnft> multiprocessing
21:57 <wrtlprnft> starts two gcc or whatever instances at the same time whenever possible
21:58 <PinkTomato> Oh I see
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21:58 <wrtlprnft> make -j9 is fun :-)
21:58 <PinkTomato> lol :D
21:58 <wrtlprnft> if you have 4 cores+ht
21:58 <wrtlprnft> watch the openoffice build fly by… sort of
21:59 <wrtlprnft> still takes forever, but it's a lot faster
21:59 <PinkTomato> what is a typical process limit of a VPS then?
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22:01 <wrtlprnft> epsy can't spell #ArMaGeTroN
22:03 <epsy> :5
22:03 <epsy> gaaaaah
22:03 <epsy> lazy me forgets to run xmodmap
22:03 <epsy> wrtlprnft, I waste my time on booting windows to play quake live :-|
22:03 <wrtlprnft> your sanity, too
22:04 <epsy> [voice=quek guy]Prepare your team![/voice]
22:04 <epsy> now that typo ruins it
22:05 <epsy> if anyone wants to waste time along with me on quake live, I still have 8 invites
22:06 <epsy> anyway, I hope you solved your problem with arma :-)
22:07 <wrtlprnft> eh?
22:07 <epsy> you mentionned you couldn't play arma atm! :)
22:10 <wrtlprnft> the problem is that it's a freak bug that only happens when a lot of people are looking
22:11 <epsy> oooh dammnn
22:11 <wrtlprnft> believe me, if noone watches me i'm the best arma player in the world
22:11 <wrtlprnft> and the worst one. at the same time
22:11 <epsy> we'll set you on invisiable then
22:11 <wrtlprnft> man those quantum physics jokes are getting old
22:12 <wrtlprnft> by the way, are you officially a developer now or still just a random guy who happens to have commit access?
22:12 <epsy> well, I'm in AUTHORS
22:13 <wrtlprnft> so yes :-)
22:14 <smoothice_away> anyone know how to find the area of an equilateral triangle :P ?
22:15 <epsy> same as any other triangle
22:15 <wrtlprnft> use the monte carlo method
22:15 <PinkTomato> don't you do it as a square and then half it?
22:15 <smoothice_away> I only the length of one site
22:15 <ct|kyle> #google monte carlo method
22:15 <smoothice_away> side
22:15 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.22 seconds: Monte Carlo method - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo_method>; Monte Carlo methods in finance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo_methods_in_finance>; An Introduction to Monte Carlo Methods: <http://www.chem.unl.edu/zeng/joy/mclab/mcintro.html>; Monte Carlo Method: (2 more messages)
22:15 <ct|kyle> :P
22:15 <smoothice_away> I'm ok thanks...
22:15 <smoothice_away> lol
22:15 <PinkTomato> smoothice_away: its an EQUAL triangle
22:15 -!- smoothice_away is now known as smoothice
22:15 <epsy> smoothice_away, easy
22:15 <smoothice> ?
22:15 <epsy> cut one side in two
22:15 <PinkTomato> so you now the length of all 3 sides :)
22:16 <wrtlprnft> make a bounding rectangle and just check random points in there if they're in the triangle
22:16 <epsy> you have a long side and half another side
22:16 <wrtlprnft> do that a couple of million times and then find out what percentage of them was inside
22:16 <epsy> use pythagore to calculate it's height
22:16 <epsy> then you can guess the rest
22:16 <wrtlprnft> then use that and the area of the rectangle to get the triangle's approximate area
22:16 <smoothice> mehj
22:16 <PinkTomato> epsy: (21:14:42) smoothice_away: anyone know how to find the area of an equilateral triangle :P ?
22:16 <epsy> and there's no h in pytagore, damn python
22:17 <smoothice> maybe I'll skip this problem...
22:17 <PinkTomato> aren't all the lengths the same then? (has not done maths for 3 years)
22:17 <epsy> smoothice, second
22:17 <PinkTomato> smoothice: but it is easy?
22:17 <ct|kyle> smoothice: if it is an equilateral triangle all 3 sides are the same
22:18 <smoothice> yeah
22:18 <PinkTomato> excactly.
22:18 <smoothice> I know that lol
22:18 <epsy> (root(side²-(side/2)²)) * side / 2
22:18 <smoothice> :O
22:18 <ct|kyle> then use 1/2b*h
22:19 <smoothice> how about this
22:19 <smoothice> http://www.mathwords.com/a/a_assets/area%20equilateral%20triangle%20formula.gif
22:19 <epsy> he doesn't know the height
22:19 <wrtlprnft> blah
22:19 * madmax thinks wrtlprnft's way is the easiest
22:19 <epsy> so he must calculate it
22:19 <smoothice> epsy: that's exactly the problem
22:19 <ct|kyle> h = sqrt(b - .5b^2)
22:19 <epsy> use a² = b² + c²
22:19 <epsy> root(side²-(side/2)²)
22:19 <ct|kyle> b is base
22:20 <epsy> this is the triangle's height
22:20 <ct|kyle> so side length
22:20 <wrtlprnft> use a³ = b³ + c³ for natural a, b, c
22:20 <epsy> dont forget to use sin() too
22:20 <MrBougo> eh?
22:20 <smoothice> I'm fine with skipping this problem
22:20 <wrtlprnft> and then use confess()
22:20 <smoothice> lol
22:20 <MrBougo> nice one :p
22:20 <epsy> smoothice, I told you how to solve it
22:20 <epsy> and you wont listen
22:21 <epsy> up to you
22:21 <smoothice> epsy: ':(
22:21 <smoothice> epsy: Don't lose faith in me!
22:21 <wrtlprnft> probably your answer got lost in my static of dumb comments
22:21 <epsy> you first want to compute the height
22:21 <epsy> of the triangle
22:21 <epsy> for that you got to use h² = b² + c²
22:22 <smoothice> ok
22:22 <wrtlprnft> just get the darn formula off wikipedia
22:22 * wrtlprnft stfu
22:22 <smoothice> ???
22:22 <epsy> h is one full side of the triangle, b is half a side of the triangle, and c is the height of the triangle
22:22 <smoothice> ok
22:22 <epsy> ignore him
22:22 <epsy> so
22:23 <epsy> c = squareroot( h² - b² )
22:23 <smoothice> ok
22:23 <epsy> meaning
22:23 <epsy> c = squareroot( h² - (h/2)² )
22:23 <epsy> since b is half of a side
22:23 <epsy> so now you got c the height of the triangle
22:23 <smoothice> ok
22:23 <nsh22> #r
22:23 <epsy> if now you can't do it on your own, you're lost :)
22:24 <armabot> nsh22: *click*
22:24 <smoothice> epsy: I got it
22:24 <nsh22> #help
22:24 <armabot> nsh22: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
22:24 <ct|kyle> #r
22:24 <armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
22:24 <smoothice> #r
22:24 <armabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
22:24 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:24 <MrBougo> b² * sqrt(3) no N
22:24 <smoothice> #r
22:24 <MrBougo> ?*
22:24 * ct|kyle liked it better when armabot was op
22:24 <armabot> smoothice: *click*
22:24 <smoothice> lol
22:25 <smoothice> nsh22: ???
22:25 <epsy> MrBougo, <insert random comment on nex's sloppyness>
22:25 <wrtlprnft> of course you could also compute the cross product of the triangle's vec(AB) and vec(AC) vectors (with z := 0), and take half of that vector's length
22:25 <smoothice> If I compile 0.2.8 again and then install to the same place I installed before will it replace the existing installation?
22:25 <epsy> smoothice, that's still part of your homework?
22:25 <smoothice> epsy: yes
22:26 <smoothice> epsy: :P
22:26 <smoothice> epsy: well, no
22:26 <MrBougo> epsy, why use the pythagorean theorem when you can use a tangent
22:26 <epsy> normally it should
22:26 <epsy> now it never does
22:26 <smoothice> I should have never started this convo in the first place...
22:26 <epsy> MrBougo, because belgians suck
22:26 <MrBougo> epsy, lol.
22:26 <MrBougo> #r
22:26 <armabot> MrBougo: *click*
22:27 <MrBougo> armabot is sloppier than nexuiz
22:27 <epsy> well, I've always preferred it to trigonometrics
22:27 <PinkTomato> #r
22:27 <armabot> PinkTomato: *click*
22:27 <MrBougo> mh
22:27 <MrBougo> though trig makes the task easier sometimess
22:27 <epsy> naw
22:27 <epsy> different function names
22:28 <MrBougo> though I understand, I prefer getting uncalculated sqrts in the answer rather than sines or whatever
22:28 <epsy> while pythagore is easy to handle in plain math
22:28 <MrBougo> yeah well
22:28 <epsy> only 24 teams?
22:29 <MrBougo> here you're using a remarkable tangent so it's doesn't hurt :p
22:29 <epsy> only 19 confirmed :<
22:29 <PinkTomato> #g 32 - 19
22:29 <armabot> PinkTomato: 32 - 19 = 13
22:30 <PinkTomato> so we need 26 players
22:30 <MrBougo> my internets are dying somehow
22:30 <smoothice> #g sqrt(9)
22:30 <armabot> smoothice: sqrt(9) = 3
22:30 <smoothice> heehee
22:30 <epsy> @g i*i
22:30 <epsy> #g i*i
22:30 <armabot> epsy: i * i = -1
22:30 <teabot> epsy: http://www.i-to-i.com/ - Volunteer abroad, TEFL Courses and more from i-to-i
22:31 <smoothice> If I compile 0.2.8 again and then install to the same place I installed before will it replace the existing installation?
22:31 <epsy> [23:26] <epsy>: normally it should
22:31 <PinkTomato> how does i * 8i = -1?
22:31 <MrBougo> #g j*k
22:31 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:31 <MrBougo> pfrt
22:31 <epsy> though it always locks on "waiting for servers to shut down"
22:31 <wrtlprnft> #g e ^ (i * pi)
22:31 <ct|kyle> #g i * 8i
22:31 <armabot> wrtlprnft: e^(i * pi) = -1
22:32 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, i * 8i = -8
22:32 <armabot> ct|kyle: i * 8 * i = -8
22:32 <wrtlprnft> #g e ^ (i * 3.14)
22:32 <epsy> PinkTomato, heck, x² can't produce -1
22:32 <armabot> wrtlprnft: e^(i * 3.14) = -0.999998732 + 0.00159265292 i
22:32 <MrBougo> hehe
22:32 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: beacause it does not
22:32 <MrBougo> #g i ^ i
22:32 <armabot> MrBougo: i^i = 0.207879576
22:32 <PinkTomato> it does not ?
22:32 <epsy> lol!
22:32 <PinkTomato> what is i?
22:32 <PinkTomato> you have not defined i
22:32 <wrtlprnft> i is me, wrtlprnft
22:32 <PinkTomato> how does google know what i is?
22:32 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: i * 8 * i = -8
22:32 <MrBougo> wait
22:33 <epsy> #g ( i ^ i )^-i
22:33 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(1)
22:33 <PinkTomato> so i = -1?
22:33 <armabot> epsy: (i^i)^(-i) = i
22:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(1) = 1
22:33 <epsy> darmed
22:33 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(-1)
22:33 <MrBougo> can someone give me the algebraic expression of i^i ?
22:33 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(-1) = i
22:33 <ct|kyle> no i*i = -1
22:33 <PinkTomato> you can't sqrt minus numbers?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: i^i is crazy :-)
22:33 <wrtlprnft> yes you can!
22:33 <wrtlprnft> iiiiiii can, anyways
22:33 <MrBougo> I don't think I've seen that number before
22:33 <MrBougo> and it's real
22:33 <epsy> #g ii
22:33 <armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:33 <ct|kyle> nope
22:33 <MrBougo> it's not a square
22:34 <epsy> #g i*i*i
22:34 <armabot> epsy: i * i * i = - i
22:34 <epsy> #g i*i*i*i
22:34 <epsy> #g i*i*i*i*i
22:34 <armabot> epsy: i * i * i * i = 1
22:34 <armabot> epsy: i * i * i * i * i = i
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #g sqrt(i)
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sqrt(i) = 0.707106781 + 0.707106781 i
22:34 <epsy> #g 0.707106781 * 0.707106781
22:34 <armabot> epsy: 0.707106781 * 0.707106781 = 0.5
22:34 <wrtlprnft> #g sin(i)
22:34 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:34 <wrtlprnft> aww!
22:34 <ct|kyle> #g log(i)^log(i)
22:34 <armabot> ct|kyle: log(i)^log(i) = 0.330877496 - 0.0883404353 i
22:35 <MrBougo> i^i = e^(-pi/2)
22:35 <MrBougo> #g i^i - e^(-pi/2)
22:35 <armabot> MrBougo: (i^i) - (e^((-pi) / 2)) = 0
22:35 <epsy> holy crap lol
22:35 <wrtlprnft> #g i^i
22:35 <wrtlprnft> that one's interesting
22:35 <armabot> wrtlprnft: i^i = 0.207879576
22:35 <MrBougo> right
22:35 <MrBougo> makes sense
22:35 <PinkTomato> now this is confusing.
22:35 <MrBougo> i^i = e^(i* ln i)
22:35 <MrBougo> right
22:35 <MrBougo> and ln i = pi/2
22:36 <MrBougo> magic!
22:36 <PinkTomato> to make a negative you times a positive and a negative.
22:36 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, not in C :p
22:36 <PinkTomato> but i can be both.
22:36 <MrBougo> (er not the programming language
22:36 <MrBougo> (but the complex numbers)
22:36 <PinkTomato> C?
22:36 <MrBougo> blackboard-C :p
22:37 <wrtlprnft> ah, right, ln i has to be π/2 because sin(1) = 1
22:37 <MrBougo> ℂ
22:37 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft, lol
22:37 <wrtlprnft> well, it's true :-)
22:37 <MrBougo> no, because you use complex number's exponential notation
22:37 <epsy> #g 2²
22:37 <armabot> epsy: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:37 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's exactly what i mean
22:37 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/SpiralOfDeath-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
22:37 <MrBougo> oh
22:37 <MrBougo> sin(1)=1 in degrees
22:37 <wrtlprnft> e^(i*x) = i*sin(x) + cos(x)
22:38 <MrBougo> and it's approximated :p
22:38 <wrtlprnft> err
22:38 <MrBougo> you meant sin 0
22:38 <MrBougo> oh ok
22:38 <wrtlprnft> no
22:38 <wrtlprnft> sin(π/2)
22:38 <MrBougo> oh
22:38 <wrtlprnft> actually
22:38 <wrtlprnft> grml
22:38 <MrBougo> I thought you meant it was some kind of black magic like approximating sin x to x for a small x :p
22:39 <wrtlprnft> the kind of approximation physicists use, ignoring the fact that sin(x) = tan(x) should mean that cos(x) = 1, and that all equations suddenly produce weird results if you substitute that?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> like weird factors of 2 appearing everywhere, even for really small angles?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> #g sin(1 degree)
22:40 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sin(1 degree) = 0.0174524064
22:40 <wrtlprnft> not quite
22:40 <wrtlprnft> #g sin(1/1000) - 1/1000
22:40 <MrBougo> exactly wrtlprnft
22:40 <armabot> wrtlprnft: sin(1 / 1,000) - (1 / 1,000) = -1.66666658 * 10^(-10)
22:40 <PinkTomato> #g tan(1 degree)
22:40 <MrBougo> oh it's for radians :p
22:40 <armabot> PinkTomato: tan(1 degree) = 0.0174550649
22:40 <wrtlprnft> that's more like it
22:40 <MrBougo> #g sin(0.1 rad)
22:40 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:41 <MrBougo> pf
22:41 <MrBougo> #g sin(0.1 radian)
22:41 <wrtlprnft> .1 will di
22:41 <armabot> MrBougo: sin(0.1 radian) = 0.0998334166
22:41 <wrtlprnft> *do
22:41 <MrBougo> that :p
22:41 <MrBougo> I wonder...
22:41 <PinkTomato> O_o all this math is confusing, I feel cheated
22:41 <MrBougo> #g sin(1 kg)
22:41 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:41 <wrtlprnft> lol!
22:41 <MrBougo> aw too bad
22:41 <PinkTomato> sin and tan are very similar
22:41 <wrtlprnft> for small angles
22:41 <MrBougo> #g log(1 gram)
22:42 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:42 <wrtlprnft> if you don't look to closely
22:42 <MrBougo> (chemists sometimes do that)
22:42 <wrtlprnft> #g one second in metres
22:42 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:42 <PinkTomato> Oh I see, its on different scale
22:42 <PinkTomato> #g 1 mile in feet
22:42 <MrBougo> isn't it "to"
22:42 <armabot> PinkTomato: 1 mile = 5280 feet
22:42 <MrBougo> because "in" means "inch" too
22:42 <MrBougo> #g 1 in in in
22:42 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:42 <MrBougo> aw
22:43 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: wtf. I never knew why i used to hate chemistry
22:43 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 ft in in
22:43 <MrBougo> does it do deca-feet
22:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 foot = 12 in
22:43 <MrBougo> #g 1m in Daft
22:43 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 in in ft
22:43 <armabot> MrBougo: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:43 <armabot> wrtlprnft: 1 in = 0.0833333333 feet
22:44 <wrtlprnft> #g 1 ft on wrtlprnft's scale of unit stupidity
22:44 <PinkTomato> #g -200 K in C
22:44 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft, because you start by learning something that turns out to be wrong later
22:44 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:44 <armabot> PinkTomato: (-200) kelvin = -473.15 degrees Celsius
22:44 <PinkTomato> hehe
22:44 <wrtlprnft> MrBougo: in math you learn that it's impossible to do √(-1)
22:44 <MrBougo> like in every other science actually, but I find it to be more frustrating in chemistry
22:44 <MrBougo> also, I always had sucky chem teachers, they all hated math
22:44 <wrtlprnft> heh
22:45 <MrBougo> wrtlprnft, noone said it was possible
22:45 <MrBougo> why do we call i an imaginary number :p
22:45 <wrtlprnft> my chem teacher forced me to do those calorimetric things in a very specific way, even though my way was way faster
22:46 <MrBougo> mine would not give you the point if you didn't write the + for positive enthalpy differences
22:47 <MrBougo> or if you used ≈ instead of = even though there was an approximation
22:47 <MrBougo> ...
22:48 <wrtlprnft> … indeed
22:49 <smoothice> If I compile 0.2.8 again and then install to the same place I installed before will it replace the existing installation?
22:49 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/slyshot/quimica-4.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
22:49 <wrtlprnft> smoothice: probably
22:50 <smoothice> wrtlprnft: ok thanks
22:51 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/slyshot/cell-3.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
22:54 <armabot> armacommits: [patternbuffer-armagetronad-work] r801 Transformed regular chat messages to protocol buffers.... || [patternbuffer-armagetronad-work] r800 Fixed stupid mistakes and added global protocol buffer versi... || [patternbuffer-armagetronad-work] r799 Added network descriptors handling protocol buffers directly... || [patternbuffer-armagetronad-work] r798 Got first protobuf to compile. Yay.... || [patternbuffer-armagetronad-w
22:56 <madmax> #as <--- fail
22:56 <armabot> madmax: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Can't connect to local (3 more messages)
22:56 <smoothice> #help ass
22:56 <armabot> smoothice: Error: There is no command "ass".
22:56 <smoothice> GOOD!
22:56 <ct|kyle> #help as
22:56 <armabot> ct|kyle: (as <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "armaservers $*".
22:57 <ct|kyle> #as
22:57 <armabot> ct|kyle: "<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111) in <b>/www2/serverlist/connect.php</b> on line <b>2</b><br />\n<br />\n<b>Warning</b>: mysql_select_db() [<a href='function.mysql-select-db'>function.mysql-select-db</a>]: Can't connect to local (3 more messages)
22:57 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: ^^
22:57 <madmax> I was just saying if wrtl would want to fix it...
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23:02 <nsh22> curse my canadian spellings of colour
23:02 <Flex> aye
23:03 <MrBougo> this is made of win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiARsQSlzDc
23:03 <MrBougo> seriously.
23:04 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/slyshot/quimica-5.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
23:07 <epsy> lol??
23:07 <wrtlprnft> eek
23:07 <epsy> http://www.wegame.com/watch/Get_Quaked_3/
23:08 <epsy> air rockets air rockets more air rockets O_O
23:08 <epsy> and rails, too
23:09 <wrtlprnft> * Starting mysql ... * Starting mysql (/etc/mysql/my.cnf) * MySQL NOT started (0)
23:09 <wrtlprnft> really helpful.
23:14 <wrtlprnft> grml, the init script was just too impatient
23:14 <wrtlprnft> didn't expect mysql to take 5 seconds to start
23:15 <fonkay> Lucifer: Brakes are for people without insurance.
23:15 <wrtlprnft> lol
23:15 <epsy> so brake is for arma players
23:15 <wrtlprnft> so you don't need brakes on respawn servers?
23:15 <fonkay> Right
23:16 <epsy> Owned.
23:16 <epsy> :o
23:16 <fonkay> Well brakes in arma are completely for sissies.
23:16 <epsy> infinite brakes are for sissies
23:17 <fonkay> You shouldn't be rubber slinging yourself fast enough to need brakes. I know I don't.
23:17 <epsy> I can need it for other stuff than grinding
23:18 <MrBougo> <epsy> air rockets air rockets more air rockets O_O
23:18 <epsy> and rail and plasma yayayaya
23:18 <MrBougo> I'm starting to hate frag videos :p
23:18 <wrtlprnft> it works fabolously for confusing attackers who want to sneak into that unfortunate hole between you and your tail end
23:18 <MrBougo> 1:30 intro, wtf?
23:18 <epsy> skip it
23:18 <MrBougo> still
23:19 <MrBougo> not really fun
23:19 <wrtlprnft> what a waste of bits
23:19 <MrBougo> mostly the same thing
23:19 <epsy> but I agree all that "omg lolz production" shit is dumb
23:19 <MrBougo> repeat the same rocket thing over and over until it works
23:19 <MrBougo> and make a video out of it :)
23:19 <epsy> haha
23:20 <MrBougo> that's basically how it works eh
23:20 <MrBougo> I believe some people play only to record videos after that
23:20 <epsy> well yeah they dont get incredible frags all the time
23:20 <epsy> it's a compilation of pretty frags
23:20 <wrtlprnft> meh, i want flying cycles, no gas stations!
23:20 <MrBougo> yep
23:21 <MrBougo> I prefer compilations of pretty fails :p
23:21 <epsy> half are from organized matches, if you look closely
23:21 <MrBougo> yep
23:21 <epsy> like, um, you're winner?
23:21 <MrBougo> haven't played any quake
23:21 <MrBougo> epsy, ?
23:21 <Flex> grand theft arma..
23:21 <MrBougo> which one :p
23:21 <epsy> the nex one rofl
23:21 <MrBougo> I don't remember seeing that one
23:22 <epsy> I mean the map
23:22 <MrBougo> this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WljLd-09IeQ
23:22 <epsy> you know, the one with cars & gothrough bridges
23:22 <MrBougo> well, it's meant to work like big rigs :p
23:22 <MrBougo> and it's pure gold
23:22 <epsy> yeah someone told me
23:23 <MrBougo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB1zWEhgrLs
23:23 <MrBougo> that's the original :p
23:23 <PinkTomato> LOL, I've played that
23:25 <PinkTomato> I don't get it though.
23:25 <epsy> MrBougo, there's a better video of nexbigrigs by div
23:26 <epsy> only if I could remember his youtube nick
23:27 <epsy> http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=K4UBFImE-Ss&feature=channel
23:27 <MrBougo> mai42ator
23:30 <epsy> nighty
23:30 <epsy> and btw that nex map is annoying as fuck :<
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23:31 <MrBougo> that's the point :p
23:31 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, well, the game is bad, that's all
23:31 <MrBougo> and they're working on an online version
23:33 <PinkTomato> MrBougo but why make it!?
23:33 <PinkTomato> why was it allowed to sell?!
23:33 <ct|kyle> #armaservers
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23:33 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, man
23:33 <MrBougo> that game is AWESOME
23:34 <PinkTomato> but its soo rubbish
23:34 <MrBougo> that makes it awesome
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23:34 <PinkTomato> i guess , in an odd way
23:35 <MrBougo> yep
23:35 <MrBougo> these bugs are very creativity
23:35 <MrBougo> don't you appreciate creativity in a game? :p
23:36 <MrBougo> this game innovates... nothing similar was seen before
23:36 <PinkTomato> how do you make a bug where you reverse at 2,000,000 miles an hour?
23:36 <PinkTomato> they must have done it on purpose
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23:37 <MrBougo> maybe
23:37 <MrBougo> #r
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23:37 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
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23:37 <MrBougo> note to self: never play real russian roulette
23:37 <MrBougo> #r
23:37 <@armabot> MrBougo: *click*
23:38 <MrBougo> alright
23:38 <MrBougo> your turn PinkTomato :p
23:38 <PinkTomato> #r
23:38 <@armabot> PinkTomato: *click*
23:39 <smoothice> #r
23:39 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
23:39 <smoothice> #r
23:39 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
23:39 <smoothice> la,e
23:39 <smoothice> lame
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23:40 <PinkTomato> #r
23:40 <@armabot> PinkTomato: *click*
23:40 <PinkTomato> how many chambers has it got?
23:40 <madmax> so what model is the gun?
23:40 <madmax> do it PinkTomato!
23:41 <PinkTomato> with fear
23:41 <PinkTomato> #r
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23:41 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
23:41 <ct|kyle> #r
23:41 <@armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
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23:43 <MrBougo> why don't these look like kicks?!
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23:43 <BabyBug> Because they're not kicks
23:43 <PinkTomato> :D
23:43 <MrBougo> BabyBug, ?!
23:43 <BabyBug> MrBougo, It's /remove not /kick
23:43 <BabyBug> that armabot is using
23:43 <MrBougo> /remove ?
23:43 <MrBougo> never heard of this :o
23:44 <BabyBug> freenode only
23:44 <BabyBug> afaik
23:44 <smoothice> #r
23:44 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
23:45 <PinkTomato> what's a kick like then?
23:45 <MrBougo> eh :p
23:45 <PinkTomato> wait I shouldn't ask
23:45 <PinkTomato> :)
23:45 <BabyBug> :P
23:47 <MrBougo> "This has the advantage that it does not trigger auto-rejoin scripts. "
23:47 <MrBougo> eh nice :p
23:47 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, /join #0,0
23:47 <BabyBug> (don't)
23:47 <MrBougo> there I can kick you :p
23:47 <MrBougo> not.
23:47 <PinkTomato> /join #0,0
23:47 <MrBougo> awww
23:47 <PinkTomato> /join #0,0
23:47 <PinkTomato> -.-
23:47 <MrBougo> awww part two?
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23:48 <MrBougo> awww
23:48 <smoothice> #r
23:48 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
23:48 <MrBougo> #r
23:48 <@armabot> MrBougo: *click*
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23:48 <PinkTomato> ...
23:48 <MrBougo> welcome back :p
23:48 <PinkTomato> I've been noobed
23:48 <dlh> #r
23:48 <@armabot> dlh: *click*
23:48 <MrBougo> BabyBug, I wonder if the guys on #0 see you joining and parting then :p
23:48 <BabyBug> i told you not to PinkTomato =P
23:49 <MrBougo> PinkTomato, it's a way to hide /join 0
23:49 <MrBougo> which means "leave all channels"
23:49 <PinkTomato> hmm.. odd feature
23:53 <BabyBug> #n9
23:53 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
23:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/slyshot/quimica-6.aamap.xml: Resource by slyshot
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00:42 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: too little? I always felt VPS had way too much disk space.
00:57 <BabyBug> \o/
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01:27 <Lucifer> oh well
01:27 <Lucifer> they can't start me yet
01:27 <Lucifer> they don't know when they will be able to start me
01:27 * Lucifer is bummed out, now.
01:27 <BabyBug> =(
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01:36 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/ender/squeeze/abmap-1.0.4.aamap.xml: Resource by ender
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01:57 <nsh22> hey
01:58 <ct|kyle> hey
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02:10 <BabyBug> Lucifer, they give you a reason why they can't start you yet?
02:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WackyRaces-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
02:24 <nsh22> wewt
02:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: yeah, the job they were expecting to sell didn't sell
02:28 <BabyBug> >< =(
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02:39 <Durka> does anyone know how to install apache web server on linux (debian)
02:41 <BabyBug> apt-get install apache2
02:41 <Durka> its that simple?
02:41 <Durka> and why "apache2" :O
02:42 <BabyBug> If all you want is a simple server, then yup it's that simple
02:42 <BabyBug> because it is apache2 in the repos and not apache1 =)
02:43 <Durka> hehe ok
02:43 <luke-jr> O.o
02:43 <luke-jr> bzr is interesting
02:43 <BabyBug> What made you say that?
02:43 <luke-jr> if I accidentally type 'bzr diff' in a Subversion checkout, bzr imports it
02:43 <BabyBug> I thought you're pro svn? =P
02:47 <Lucifer> don't forget simon_says
02:47 <BabyBug> simon_says
02:47 <BabyBug> bash: simon_says: command not found
02:47 <BabyBug> =(
02:47 <Lucifer> well, I emailed the guy and asked if he could find 10-15 hours/week of work for me, so I don't have to keep looking, and he can keep me close ;)
02:47 <Lucifer> we'll see how that goes, I suppose
02:48 * ct|kyle wonders when the parade will be tomorrow
02:48 <BabyBug> You should come up with an idea that can earn you money Lucifer!
02:48 <ct|kyle> i want to see the moon rovers :)
02:49 <Durka> BabyBug: thnx!
02:49 <Durka> BabyBug: http://durka.ath.cx
02:49 <BabyBug> Durka, np =)
02:49 <Durka> hehe
02:49 <ct|kyle> Durka: It Works
02:49 <Durka> :P
02:49 <Lucifer> looks like it works
02:49 <Durka> !
02:49 <ct|kyle> append ! :P
02:50 <Lucifer> looks like it works!
02:50 <Durka> ok
02:50 <ct|kyle> Durka: got any tron servers running yet?
02:50 <Durka> yep
02:50 <Durka> a bunch atm
02:50 <Durka> 6 i think
02:50 <ct|kyle> o0
02:50 <Durka> very good
02:50 <Lucifer> well, I guess I'll go grab a smoke and then cook dinner
02:50 <Durka> #si . sumo
02:50 <@armabot> Durka: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo: Players (5/32): -=VcL.ß¡ggZ, -=}ID< tyler, Bubu, Laaze, raph
02:50 * Lucifer isn't in the mood to eat, though, heh.
02:50 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you said you were gonna quit! :@
02:51 <Durka> BabyBug: where is my web folder o_O
02:51 <Lucifer> I am gonna quit
02:51 <Lucifer> I just haven't yet
02:51 <Lucifer> isn't that what I said last time?
02:51 <ct|kyle> .:] Twisted Rats [:. Fortress (1/32): .:] Corn.
02:51 <BabyBug> Durka, by default, usually /var/www/
02:51 <Lucifer> I probably should, since I can't even pay rent right now, and won't be able to unless I either borrow a ton of money, or start working a new job immediately
02:51 <Durka> hehe i just found it
02:51 <Durka> thnx tho
02:51 <Lucifer> my job at the school starts again tomorrow, though, maybe something will turn up
02:52 <Lucifer> Durka: I recommend you setup a vhost and don't mess with the default vhost
02:52 <Durka> what do u mean
02:52 <Lucifer> I can let you download a vhost file that I use, you can just change a couple of paths and the server name
02:52 <Lucifer> look in /etc/apache2/sites-available
02:53 <Lucifer> you can just copy the default file, change the paths and name
02:53 <Durka> ...meaning
02:53 <ct|kyle> heh 8 non CT server running sty+ct :)
02:53 <Lucifer> then do a2ensite yoursite
02:53 <Lucifer> ok, virtual hosts
02:53 <Durka> ct|kyle: 6 are mine :P
02:53 <Lucifer> there are two ways to have one single machine host many webservers
02:53 <Lucifer> one is for the machine to have several IP addresses
02:53 <Lucifer> the other is to use name-based hosting, when the machine only has one IP address
02:54 <Lucifer> presumably you've only got one IP address, and the default apache2 configuration is for name-basted vhosts
02:54 <Lucifer> in /etc/apache2/sites-available are all of your vhost config files
02:54 <Lucifer> there is only one in the default installation, called "default"
02:54 <ct|kyle> Durka: only 3 say TR
02:54 <Lucifer> if you copy that, then symlink to your copy from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, and restart apache2, you will have another host
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02:54 <Lucifer> if you do that, you can put the webroot anywhere
02:54 <Durka> ct|kyle: 4 do
02:55 <ct|kyle> ya :P
02:55 <Durka> and im running the 2 VCL ones
02:55 <Lucifer> if you modify the default file in any way, you could have config file merging conflicts whenever you update apache2
02:55 <ct|kyle> ah ok
02:55 <Durka> Lucifer: why do i wanna put the webroot anywhere
02:55 <Durka> whats wrong with where it is
02:55 <Durka> ct|kyle: for server_ip
02:55 <Lucifer> it's a pain to deal with :)
02:55 <Durka> do i have to put a #
02:55 <ct|kyle> i think i miscounted LOL had to have been 9, 2 by smoothice and 1 by id
02:56 <Durka> or can i put durka.ath.cx
02:56 <Lucifer> you'd put durka.ath.cx
02:56 <Lucifer> I have a file you can download that'll be painfully obvious what to change and what you can leave alone
02:56 <Durka> but why do i want to do that?
02:57 <Lucifer> several reasons
02:57 <Durka> o
02:57 <Durka> i think i get it
02:57 <Lucifer> one is because if you install any other web packages, they'll go in /var/www and it fills up
02:57 <Lucifer> another is because apache2 already has lots of stuff in there, and you don't want to delete it or else your package manager will hate you
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02:58 <Durka> ok
02:58 <nsh22> hey hey hey
02:58 <Durka> then send me that file pl0x?
02:58 <Durka> :D
02:58 <Lucifer> change ServerName, ServerAdmin, DocumentRoot, and the path in the <Directory> tag
02:59 <Lucifer> I have a site with a DocumentRoot somewhere in my home directory because it's convenient ;)
02:59 <Lucifer> but I learned awhile back that it's straightforward to have /www/* for websites I host
02:59 <Lucifer> so that's what I do
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03:01 <Durka> ok im totally lost and confused
03:01 <Durka> what do u want me to do?
03:02 <Lucifer> download that file, save it to /etc/apache2/sites-available
03:02 <Lucifer> change the stuff I told you to change to whatever the appropriate values are
03:02 <Lucifer> then:
03:02 <Lucifer> cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
03:02 <Lucifer> sudo ln -s ../sites-available/whateveryounamedit 001-whateveryounamedit
03:02 <Lucifer> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
03:03 <Lucifer> then make the directories to match the new DocumentRoot
03:03 <Lucifer> chown -R durka:www-date /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:03 <Lucifer> er
03:03 <Lucifer> chown -R durka:www-data /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:03 <Lucifer> if you want the webserver to be able to write to it:
03:03 <Lucifer> chmod -R g+w /path/to/your/new/docroot
03:04 <Durka> and why am i doing this
03:04 <Lucifer> to simplify adminning your box
03:04 <Lucifer> look, if it's too complicated for now, don't sweat it
03:04 <Lucifer> I'm just trying to throw out a little tip that I know will save you a lot of headache in the long run, but if it's too much for right now,
03:04 <Lucifer> don't worry about it
03:04 <Lucifer> I'll probably be here when you need to know
03:04 <Durka> in the long run?
03:05 <Lucifer> but you're like me, and you're going to want to run several sites on that server at one point or other, I guarantee it
03:05 <Durka> no
03:05 <Lucifer> yes
03:05 <Lucifer> :)
03:05 <Durka> i dont want to lol
03:05 <Lucifer> maybe not right now, but you will. Oh yes, you will.
03:05 <Durka> i just want to put a few files in the www dir
03:05 <Lucifer> (yoda voice)
03:05 <Durka> ok
03:05 <Durka> when i do
03:05 <Durka> ill come find u :)
03:05 <Lucifer> ok :)
03:05 <Durka> but for now i think im fine
03:05 <BabyBug> or find me!
03:05 <Durka> cuz i got this working
03:05 <Durka> http://durka.ath.cx/test.html
03:06 <Durka> yes or u BabyBug :P
03:06 * BabyBug is actually a genius!
03:07 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: Prove it
03:08 <BabyBug> i don't have to prove anything!
03:09 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that's right cause your that old fart man with a long beard :P
03:09 <BabyBug> you're*
03:09 <ct|kyle> i knew that
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03:33 <BabyBug> boo
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03:51 <smoothice> BabyBug: why do you ask like such a baby bug
03:51 <BabyBug> ask what?
03:52 <smoothice> act*
03:52 <smoothice> :P
03:52 <BabyBug> nuuuuu not a baby, more like a 10 year old
03:53 <smoothice> haha
03:53 <smoothice> Is that a reality?
03:53 <BabyBug> gosh no
03:53 <BabyBug> lol
03:53 <smoothice> lol
03:54 <BabyBug> on the internet i'm fweeeee....in rl i have responsibilities *growls*
03:54 <smoothice> When you said you acted like a 10 year old I was unsure
03:54 <smoothice> Now I'm sure
03:54 <smoothice> :P
03:54 <BabyBug> lol
03:55 <Durka> ok newest question
03:55 <Durka> so im in /var/ww/
03:55 <Durka> www*
03:55 <smoothice> uh huh
03:55 <Durka> and say i wanna fopen a file thats in
03:56 <Durka> here: /opt/armagetronad/servers/server1/var/
03:56 <Durka> is that possible?
03:56 <BabyBug> Yes
03:56 <smoothice> Yep
03:56 <smoothice> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=php+file+operations&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
03:56 <BabyBug> as long as the web server user has read permissions to that folder
03:56 <smoothice> or make --vardir the web directory
03:56 <smoothice> that'd work too
03:57 <BabyBug> Then everyone would have free access to the files though (which you might not want) :P
03:57 <smoothice> htaccess
03:57 <smoothice> or apache2.conf
03:57 <smoothice> Nevermind
03:57 <smoothice> lol
04:18 <Lucifer> I must protest this, I am not a merry man!
04:19 <Lucifer> best line in all of star trek, I daresay
04:19 <smoothice> Anyone here want to test something?
04:19 <Lucifer> I'd like to test my penis and make sure it still works
04:20 <smoothice> :O
04:20 <smoothice> excuse me?
04:20 <Lucifer> you asked if anybody wanted to test something...
04:20 <smoothice> I know that IRC is rated PG but not R
04:20 <Lucifer> oh come on, they'd say that on tv
04:21 <smoothice> Would someone be willing to help me test an armagetron server function?
04:21 <Lucifer> oh. I was on my way out, sorry. Wanted to drop in some random shit and then leave ;)
04:21 <smoothice> *sigh*
04:21 <smoothice> fine
04:21 <smoothice> lol
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05:59 <Lucifer> man, my heart's just not in the job search right now :(
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08:19 <wrtlprnft> luke-jr: nah… can't even keep a couple of years worth of logs
08:19 <wrtlprnft> plus… i don't get it. Disk space is so cheap these days, it shouldn't be an issue
08:20 <wrtlprnft> grml… who came up with the idea of using split rar files in torrents?
08:22 <wrtlprnft> you can't start watching when it's 90% complete, you have to wait for ages until unrar is done extracting an 8GB file, and then you have everything laying around twice while you're still seeding
08:22 <wrtlprnft> and the amount of compression is negible
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09:02 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, if you're talking about scene releases then it was the scene. They're rarred up incase of file corruption when the rls' are FXP'd.
09:04 <BabyBug> (obviously they don't create the torrents but the torrent sites usually follow the scene's rules)
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14:35 <zmanuel> The google folks can't decide whether they should use CamelCase or_underscores_in_their_code.
14:36 <zmanuel> There may be some logic to what gets selected in which case, but it eludes me.
15:05 <wrtlprnft> As_longAs_THEYDon'tmixthe_TwoIn_the_sameKeyword…
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15:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r805 Conversion pbuffer -> regular nMessage test passed.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r804 Adapted to earlier versions.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r803 Almost got automatic message transformation working....
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16:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r806 Refactored a bit....
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17:42 <madmax> #as
17:42 <@armabot> madmax: This data is 6 seconds old; The YELLOW Submarine (12/12), [] Cheers! [] The friendly server. (11/12), Wild West =Capture The Flag= (10/10), Crazy Tronners Open Sumo (9/12), -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) (8/12), -=Prutopolis=- -=Capture The Flag=- (6/10), WILDCAT (6/8), {Delicious Desserts} Racing II (5/16), Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. (5/14), |FA| Devils Rings! (4/16), (1 more message)
17:43 <madmax> #sd open su
17:43 <@armabot> madmax: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (9/12): -»|Xyrøn, CT_emmy, Filip, M$Ç | Rayo, scorpian`, WTF IS A TRON, _-'Ww_Kotton, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
17:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r809 Completed automatic transciption.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r808 Refactored.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r807 Impemented streaming from protocol buffer to nMessage comple...
17:56 <luke-jr> zmanuel: I don't think Google wrote most of their now-owned code.
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19:37 <akira_arma> #tea
19:37 <@armabot> akira_arma: Fortress Café: Players (8/32): cT¬safari, DoCtOr~<(^_^)>~, Epicure, epsy¦×¦ (epsy@x/member), metaz, |x|Cid, ~*DelTa*~, ¦×¦ Black_hat
19:37 <akira_arma> O.o
19:38 <madmax> some time ago it was "empty" => "O.o"
19:39 <akira_arma> wanna play max?
19:39 <madmax> sort of busy heh
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20:25 <BabyBug> #tea
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (11/32): cT¤K-Yo, m0th, metaz, orly?, sine.wav, SNAFU, Zurd~Nw, _-`Ww_ Punish, ·Oddball·, ¦×¦ Hoax (Hoax@x/member), °öMhð
20:25 <BabyBug> #ctos
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Crazy Tronners Open Sumo: Players (0/12):
20:25 <BabyBug> #n9
20:25 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
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20:35 <epsy> @ls BabyBug
20:36 * BabyBug slaps epsy
20:36 <epsy> #ls BabyBug
20:36 <@armabot> epsy: BabyBug has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 2 hours 22 minutes ago.
20:36 <epsy> worst choice IMO :D
20:37 <BabyBug> you're opinion sucks =P
20:37 <BabyBug> You proved that when you said no to 3d maps!
20:37 <epsy> I am opinion suck?
20:37 <BabyBug> your*
20:37 <BabyBug> smart arse xD
20:37 <epsy> and I didn't say no to that
20:38 <BabyBug> you so did
20:38 <epsy> I said no to more controls than left/right & brake
20:38 <BabyBug> AND to 3d maps
20:38 <BabyBug> saying that arma is simply a 2d game..
20:38 <epsy> it is
20:38 <BabyBug> Don't make me go through the logs ><
20:39 * Lizmatic still wants GTA: Tron
20:39 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, your opinion is worth even less than epsy's xD
20:40 <Lizmatic> pfff
20:40 <Lizmatic> bitch!
20:40 <BabyBug> slut!
20:41 <Lizmatic> me? lol!
20:41 <BabyBug> yup, and i have the pics to prove it! =P
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20:43 <epsy> woo woo pictures woo woo
20:43 <Lizmatic> wait.. thats such a lie
20:43 <Lizmatic> its vice versa
20:44 <BabyBug> lies!
20:44 <BabyBug> all those pictures you saw were actually you, not me =x
20:44 <Lizmatic> :O
20:44 <Lizmatic> zomg
20:44 <epsy> damn
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21:08 <nsh22> hey
21:09 <freako> hi!
21:10 <K-Yo> oi nsh22
21:10 <nsh22> hey
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21:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/LifesDecisions-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
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21:22 <nsh22> wow, my new map is harder than i thought
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21:47 <nsh22> anybody here?
21:47 * madmax
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21:50 <epsy> broom
21:51 <nsh22> hey, how do you make winzones not dissapear after somebody goes through them?
21:51 * K-Yo .
21:51 <epsy> um, lol?
21:51 <epsy> why that?
21:52 <K-Yo> nsh22, what happens next?
21:52 <nsh22> huh?
21:53 <K-Yo> nsh22, what's the use of them not disappearing?
21:53 <K-Yo> just design?
21:53 <epsy> well, once the winzone's taken the player who entered wins, and that's it then
21:53 <nsh22> i want them to just stay up so others can get points for cokmmpleteing the race
21:53 <epsy> so why keep it?
21:53 <nsh22> like in DD racing
21:53 <epsy> ask hoop for his code
21:53 <nsh22> kk
21:55 <epsy> http://hoop.altervista.org/race.html
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21:59 <nsh22> ty epsy, ill check it out later
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23:03 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r811 Adaptions to newer protobuf versions.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r810 Reversed build order: basic libraries first....
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23:08 <K-Yo> epsy, il est payant?
23:08 <epsy> non
23:08 <K-Yo> hmmm
23:08 <K-Yo> link?
23:08 <epsy> (credit card needed!)
23:09 <K-Yo> ^o)
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00:03 <BabyBug> #n9
00:03 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
00:06 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r812 Added nNetObject sync message stub....
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00:24 <nsh22> hey
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02:45 <nsh22> hey
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03:11 <BabyBug> #n9
03:11 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (0/16):
03:11 <BabyBug> :@
03:12 <nsh22> hey
03:16 <Stewah> D:
03:17 <nsh22> #neal
03:17 <nsh22> #n
03:17 <nsh22> #
03:27 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/LifesDecisions-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
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05:02 <Lucifer> woo-hoo
05:02 <Lucifer> Australia emailed me, and they'd like to have a phone interview
05:02 <luke-jr> …
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05:05 <Lucifer> there won't be an in-person interview, sadly, although I'd love it if they flew me out to Australia for an in-person interview
05:05 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer, arn't you sleeping when they're awake and vice versa? :P
05:06 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no, heh
05:06 <luke-jr> caught my wife talking to her "ex"-boyfriend on the phone..
05:06 <Lucifer> I'm awake when they are, and I sleep when they do
05:06 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I take it he's not really an ex?
05:06 <Lucifer> BabyBug: this one is extremely promising
05:06 <luke-jr> well, she's not supposed to talk to him period
05:06 <BabyBug> Lucifer, How so?
05:06 <BabyBug> luke-jr, why not? :S
05:06 <Lucifer> they asked for a code sample. The code sample I sent them is work I did when I was working for SugarCRM
05:07 <luke-jr> BabyBug: for obvious reasons
05:07 <Lucifer> I emailed earlier to ask if he'd gone over it, and he said yes
05:07 <Lucifer> not only that, he said they run SugarCRM internally and are having problems with it, so I may be a bit more than they were looking for
05:07 <BabyBug> luke-jr? :s
05:07 <BabyBug> what's SugarCRM?
05:07 <Lucifer> luke-jr: has there been a problem with him and her in the past, or is this your male insecurity?
05:07 <BabyBug> quick answer, not the long one :P
05:07 <Lucifer> BabyBug: Contact Relationship Management software
05:08 <BabyBug> ahhh
05:08 <Lucifer> or Customer Relationship Management, depending on how you use it
05:08 <luke-jr> Lucifer: her relationship with him has always been during the marriage
05:08 <Lucifer> luke-jr: man, oh man, I don't want to be in your shoes
05:08 <luke-jr> yeah, my shoes are pretty old
05:09 <luke-jr> currently, she is sleeping on the couch
05:09 <BabyBug> Lucifer, How would you be payed? USD or AUD? :P
05:09 <sinewav> :(
05:10 <Lucifer> BabyBug: don't know, probably USD since they're hiring to open an office here in Austin
05:10 <Lucifer> but they're planning on opening the office in March, so it may be AUD for awhile
05:10 <Lucifer> I wonder if I can pay in AUD at the grocery store, heh ;)
05:10 <BabyBug> oh right, ok, i thought it was an internet job ^^
05:10 <Lucifer> so it'll be a work from home job for the first few months, which will be spanking awesome
05:10 <BabyBug> oo yup! =D
05:10 <Lucifer> and maybe I can influence where they place the actual office
05:11 <BabyBug> in your house? :P
05:11 <Lucifer> you know, so I can ride my bike to it, and from it to my job at the school ;)
05:12 <Lucifer> also, my experience with negotiations like this tells me to expect an answer tomorrow on the phone, or soon after, and to be able to start work literally immediately
05:12 <BabyBug> \o/
05:12 <luke-jr> Lucifer: why would you keep the job at the school? O.o
05:12 <sinewav> chicks
05:13 * BabyBug slaps sinewav
05:13 * sinewav looks down at the ground, ashamed
05:14 * BabyBug hates the word chicks...say babes next time =P
05:15 <luke-jr> quack
05:15 <sinewav> how about birds?
05:15 <sinewav> chicks aren't always "babes"
05:16 <luke-jr> yeah, BabyBug is too ugly to be a babe
05:16 <BabyBug> You haven't even seen a picture =P
05:16 <sinewav> :o
05:16 <luke-jr> ☺
05:17 <sinewav> I'm quite handsome
05:17 <BabyBug> pics or it's not true
05:17 <sinewav> hold...
05:17 <sinewav> You'll get a kick out of this.
05:17 <sinewav> http://adventuresoftron.com/aa/tron-bri.jpg
05:18 <BabyBug> ...
05:19 <BabyBug> got an unmodified pic? =P
05:19 <sinewav> I'm also facetious
05:19 <sinewav> lemme look.
05:19 <luke-jr> sinewav: ooh make me one
05:20 <BabyBug> sinewav, not facetious enough for me! =P
05:20 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: where is your picture, I don't think we've seen it
05:21 <sinewav> luke-jr: A lot of people want me to make one. wierd!
05:22 <sinewav> BabyBug: it seems I love the photoshop
05:22 <sinewav> http://fileshare.brianhilmers.com/hilmers0707.jpg
05:22 <sinewav> Oh wait...
05:22 <sinewav> http://brianhilmers.com/hilmers/about.jpg
05:24 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: of course *you* haven't
05:24 * BabyBug goes to cuddle ct|kyle but kicks him and runs off at the last minute
05:24 * ct|kyle tickles BabyBug
05:24 <BabyBug> that's not me, that's Lucifer
05:24 <BabyBug> shave dude!
05:24 <BabyBug> :P
05:24 <BabyBug> love the hat though \o/ =P
05:24 <BabyBug> luke-jr, link a pic of you =D
05:24 <sinewav> http://brianhilmers.com/00/BH2002.jpg
05:24 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: he can't shave then he can't be a Cter :P
05:24 <sinewav> Above is from 2002
05:25 <BabyBug> oooo waaaayyy too many piercings xD
05:25 <sinewav> actually, I did shave down to a patch on my chin. no pics yet
05:26 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, then all cters are horrible kissers!
05:26 <luke-jr> BabyBug: http://tinyurl.com/8ouqr5
05:27 <BabyBug> haha awwwwww =D
05:27 <BabyBug> she/he is wearing pink! \o/
05:27 <luke-jr> oops http://dashjr.org/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=21404&g2_serialNumber=2
05:28 <BabyBug> You look very young luke-jr =)
05:28 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4092/dsc0004bh6.jpg :P
05:28 <luke-jr> BabyBug: actually, that's david-jr
05:29 <luke-jr> when he was about 6 months old
05:30 <BabyBug> awww =) How old is he now?
05:30 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, shave!
05:30 <luke-jr> about twice that
05:31 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that's a few years old, but i still have not shaved them :)
05:31 <sinewav> don't try to please the Bug.
05:32 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you should shave!
05:32 <BabyBug> also learn to show better pictures of your face :P
05:32 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: nope :)
05:33 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I did not even know that picture was taken LOL
05:33 <BabyBug> ><
05:33 * BabyBug castrates ct|kyle
05:33 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4176/p1300047fa2.jpg
05:33 <BabyBug> (don't complain, i just increased you life expectency by 13 years and now you won't go bald!)
05:34 <ct|kyle> that is also a year or 2 old
05:34 <BabyBug> lol you should defiantly shave em...they so don't work.. lol
05:38 * sinewav notices that BabyBug has yet to offer an image to scrutinize.
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05:39 <BabyBug> I don't show pictures =P
05:39 <sinewav> I think I'll adopt that.
05:40 <ct|kyle> sinewav: that's cause he know's he is ugly
05:41 <BabyBug> he? ><
05:41 <sinewav> lol!
05:44 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no proof the either way :P
05:45 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you even said you looked like Lucifer
05:45 <ct|kyle> (23:21:41) ***ct|kyle tickles BabyBug
05:45 <ct|kyle> (23:21:52) BabyBug: that's not me, that's Lucifer
05:45 <BabyBug> typical american logic
05:46 <ct|kyle> i was about to point that out then and there :P
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05:56 <ct|kyle> #g 1.8m +142.5 cm + (5.35*10^5 micrometers)
05:56 <@armabot> ct|kyle: (1.8 m) + (142.5 cm) + (5.35 * (10^5) micrometers) = 3.76 meters
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06:05 <Lucifer> luke-jr: I would keep my job at the school because I love it
06:05 * Lucifer <----- babe
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06:07 <Lucifer> also, there are some hot CHICKS in the classes I'm working this semester (as usual)
06:07 <Lucifer> and this semester I'm not all emotionally ripped up
06:09 <sinewav> I keep thinking I will go back to school, but I hate everything.
06:11 <Lucifer> sinewav: that's no excuse, since everything hates you
06:12 <Lucifer> er, that wasn't nice of me
06:12 * Lucifer slaps himself
06:12 <sinewav> I've always thought that!
06:12 <Lucifer> apparently I had a good ride home, I'm in a great mood again
06:12 * Lucifer rode his bike to work again
06:12 * sinewav misses my bike riding
06:13 <Lucifer> why? winter?
06:13 <Lucifer> (not why do you miss it, that's self-evident to anyone who rides)
06:13 <sinewav> yeah, too dangerous with the ice and snow
06:13 <Lucifer> snow tires! ;)
06:13 <sinewav> too broke for that
06:13 <Lucifer> chains? I wonder if those would work on a bicycle
06:14 <sinewav> hmm... a new invention?
06:14 <Lucifer> you know, just take the ones off your waist and put them on the bicycle
06:14 <Lucifer> actually, if you could get one of those trikes that's not single-gear, that might be workable
06:14 <sinewav> http://www.icebike.org/Equipment/tirechains.htm
06:16 <Lucifer> One caused a nasty accident when it came loose and seized the front wheel. This is apparently not that rare.
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06:17 <e_n_d_e_r> there are only like 10 ppl online heh
06:18 <sinewav> The other night I saw only 2 people on. That's the fewest I've seen since I started playing 1 year ago
06:18 <Lucifer> when I first started playing, it wasn't uncommon to find 0 people on
06:19 <sinewav> yeah I bet
06:20 <Lucifer> I guess if people are riding in the snow, I can just bite the bullet and ride in texas winter
06:21 <Lucifer> the main problem is a lack of gear, though
06:21 <Lucifer> nothing to keep my head warm, no goggles
06:21 <Lucifer> if the windchill is low enough, not having goggles could be dangerous to my eyes
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06:21 <sinewav> Yeah, it's really too cold to ride here, for another 2 months at least
06:22 <sinewav> I had to walk to work in -10 weather last week
06:25 <sinewav> Lucifer: I'm making some pretty good headway with the sound design. I'm not doing any recording right now though, just using software synths (powerful ones though). Any ideas you wanted to try?
06:37 <Lucifer> such as? heh
06:37 <Lucifer> to be honest, my mind is as far away from the sound engine as it can be right now
06:38 <Lucifer> I don't want to leave you on your own, I just have a very strong pressing need to get a job and all the stuff that goes with it
06:38 <Lucifer> it's highly likely that any new sound ideas you have, I'm going to take, whenever I get to the sound engine again
06:38 <Lucifer> but right now, arma rates on my priority list after getting a job, and my highest priority arma task is getting 0.3.1 out the door
06:44 <sinewav> I totally understand man.
06:52 <e_n_d_e_r> snow in tx?!?!
06:52 <e_n_d_e_r> where you at luci
06:53 <e_n_d_e_r> oh nvm lol
07:00 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
07:00 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 31.3°F (12:00 AM CST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 32.0°F. Pressure: 30.29 in 1025.6 hPa (Steady).
07:00 <Lucifer> holy crap, freezing temperatures weren't in the forecast!
07:05 <sinewav> #weather 60130
07:05 <@armabot> sinewav: The current temperature in Oak Park, IL, Oak Park, Illinois is 14.0°F (12:05 AM CST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling).
07:05 <Lucifer> I'd hate to ride my bike in that weather
07:05 <Lucifer> tomorrow is supposed to go up to 76
07:05 <sinewav> it's a heatwave comapred to last week.
07:05 <Lucifer> beautiful bike-riding weather
07:06 * Lucifer doesn't think we're getting a real winter this year
07:06 <sinewav> what kind of bike you got?
07:06 <Lucifer> it's a cheapo mountain bike I picked up at Academy
07:06 <Lucifer> Ozone500 (generic brand)
07:06 <Lucifer> I forget the company that actually makes it, they have tons of different brands
07:06 <Lucifer> but if I get this job from the aussie and it pays decently, I"ll probably buy my roommates schwinn
07:08 <sinewav> cool. Last yeah I bought a chinese hybrid. 7 gears, street tires. Mostly for riding to work. ain't no mountains in Chicago.
07:08 <sinewav> big ass potholes though
07:10 <sinewav> http://jimsbicycleshop.com/images/RaleighVentureM.gif
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07:28 <Lucifer> ah, I live in the Texas Hill Country
07:28 <Lucifer> I'll use 12 gears on a typical ride to work :/
07:28 <Lucifer> I've got 28, although there are duplicates in there
07:28 <sinewav> dayum
07:29 <Lucifer> it *is* a mountain bike :)
07:29 <Lucifer> normal roadster around here sells with 18 gears
07:29 <sinewav> Chicago is F L A T
07:29 <Lucifer> I kind of like the hills
07:29 <Lucifer> huff and puff to the crest, coast to the valley ;)
07:29 <sinewav> I'm ok with some hills. I used to live in San Diego.
07:30 <sinewav> My ears would pop on the drive to work
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07:31 <Lucifer> heh
07:31 <Lucifer> well, dinner time, which means time for some star trek :)
07:31 <sinewav> later bro
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10:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r815 Added sync handling for protocol buffer messages.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r814 Added object creation read code.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r813 Stubs for managing functions....
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13:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r816 Implemented nNetObject syncing protocol with pbuffers....
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14:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r817 Added assertion....
14:52 <epsy> stupid dots :<
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16:05 <epsy> zmanuel, isn't one the the biggest points of switching to this to scramble down messages to simply whatever changes?
16:31 <zmanuel> Yep :)
16:32 <epsy> right, so the 2Bytes overheat is .. meaningless?
16:32 <zmanuel> I'd say. I was pretty surprised.
16:33 <epsy> but er, if data structure definitions are different between server and client, what happens?
16:34 <zmanuel> Those data bits not sent by the sender will appear at default values (and marked as missing) for the receiver
16:34 <zmanuel> And extra data bits sent are shoved into a "unknown bits" section, which of course is useless for all but debugging :)
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16:36 <epsy> oh, but can you ommit a value without changing the structure?
16:36 <z-man> Yeah.
16:37 <z-man> Provided it's marked as optional.
16:37 <z-man> Currently, I have marked all fields as "required", because that's what the converter to old messages assumes marks fields it has to convert.
16:37 <z-man> It doesn't make a difference for how an element appears on the network.
16:38 <z-man> So I'll probably change them all to optional and find some other way to tell the converter where to stop.
16:55 <wrtlprnft> that's probably gonna crete some more overhead
16:55 <wrtlprnft> *create
16:55 <wrtlprnft> or is it?
16:57 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r821 Small corrections....
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17:32 <z-man> wrtlprnft: depends on how it's done. The data when to stop can be purely in the message definition.
17:32 <z-man> For example, it could be a never used element with an insanely high ID
17:32 <z-man> like:
17:32 <z-man> message Chat{
17:33 <z-man> optional uint32 sender = 1;
17:33 <z-man> optional string chat = 2;
17:33 <z-man> optional OLD_MESSAGE_STOPS_HERE = 9999;
17:33 <z-man> optional string new_stuff_added = 3;
17:33 <z-man> }
17:40 <wrtlprnft> no, i mean, do optional fields cost more than required ones?
17:41 <z-man> No.
17:42 <wrtlprnft> ok :-)
17:43 <wrtlprnft> i was assuming they'd require metadata as to whether or not they're included which required stuff wouldn't need
17:44 <z-man> The required fields have the same data; the receiver needs to be able to detect if a required element is missing.
17:45 <wrtlprnft> so it's always id:<length deduced from definition file or part of the data>:actual data?
17:46 <z-man> yeah, and 'data type' thrown into it.
17:47 <z-man> As far as I understand, they create a single int out of 'data type id + (element id << 3)'
17:47 <z-man> then flexencode that
17:48 <z-man> (write the lowest seven bits into a byte; higest bit zero means it's done, highest bit one means another byte of the same value follows)
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17:48 <z-man> then comes data depending on the data type.
17:50 <wrtlprnft> so your OLD_MESSAGE_STOPS_HERE should probably be more in the region of 20 to avoid the overhead of bigger ints
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17:50 <z-man> but it's never sent :)
17:50 <wrtlprnft> ooh, i didn't see that new stuff was 3 and not 10000
17:51 <wrtlprnft> *new_stuff
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17:51 <wrtlprnft> neat.
17:51 <wrtlprnft> (who came up with declaring IDs with =? I always assume they're default values)
17:52 <z-man> Does anyone have a polite way of saying this Fini guy that if he's too stupid to follow a download link, he's too stupid to admin a server?
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17:52 <mib_o7qnrl3t> Please RTFM.
17:52 <z-man> Yeah, the syntax there is a bit confusing.
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17:52 <z-man> We already said RTFM.
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17:53 <z-man> Thinking about it, where are the default values?
17:53 <wrtlprnft> heh
17:53 * z-man RTFM
17:53 <wrtlprnft> i was thinking that, too (not havin read the manual, i should probably do that instead of asking you stupid questions)
17:54 <epsy_cba> also if someone could size down his signature .. :|
17:55 <z-man> ah:
17:55 <z-man> optional int32 stuff = 3 [default = 10];
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18:21 * wrtlprnft imagines Fini searching for his nick on google one day and finding z-man's question in my chatlogs :-)
18:22 <epsy_cba> fini searching on google?
18:22 <epsy_cba> you day-dreamer, heh
18:22 <wrtlprnft> maybe he'll grow up
18:23 <wrtlprnft> one day, far away in the distant future
18:24 * wrtlprnft never knew nMessage could do arrays… I didn't see it when i was trying to implement all those operators in php
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18:32 <luke-jr> z-man: any idea if bzr-svn backdates timestamps on push?
18:32 <z-man> It would if it could.
18:33 <z-man> sourceforge doesn't allow it, though.
18:34 <luke-jr> o :/
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18:34 <luke-jr> so in theory, push should make it look like my commits happened to mainline exactly as they occurred?
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18:38 <Lizmatic> babybug not in wow :OOO
18:39 <BabyBug> downloading the patch =P
18:39 <z-man> if by "in theory" you mean "if I push to my own repository", then yes.
18:39 <luke-jr> well, I'm actually referring to a company repo ☺
18:40 <luke-jr> which is a pain cuz their VPN doesn't always work
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19:03 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r990 Better logic for lowering rim wall rendering height to match...
19:05 <wrtlprnft> magic numbers, boo!
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19:10 * BabyBug looks puzzled at wrtlprnft
19:18 <wrtlprnft> the code z-man just replaced compared a value to 9000
19:18 <wrtlprnft> which is a magic number in that context
19:18 <wrtlprnft> which is said to be evil
19:18 <BabyBug> What's a magic number?
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19:19 <Berrybeans> hey pplz :D
19:20 <wrtlprnft> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(programming)#Unnamed_numerical_constant
19:20 <Berrybeans> cant see it :P
19:22 <wrtlprnft> hi Berrybeans
19:22 <wrtlprnft> that link was intended for BabyBug :-)
19:22 <Berrybeans> lol :P
19:22 <Berrybeans> ok then
19:22 <BabyBug> i'll read through that in 10 :P
19:22 <wrtlprnft> Compiled Java class files (bytecode) start with hex CAFEBABE. When compressed with Pack200 the bytes are changed to CAFED00D.
19:22 <wrtlprnft> lol
19:23 <Berrybeans> lol so u guys play tron still??
19:23 <wrtlprnft> sometimes
19:23 <Berrybeans> cool cool :D
19:26 -!- Berrybeans is now known as dBd|Click
19:26 <dBd|Click> there we go :P
19:27 <wrtlprnft> #roulette
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19:27 <wrtlprnft> err
19:27 <ct|kyle> #r
19:27 <dBd|Click> lol what happened?
19:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: *click*
19:27 <wrtlprnft> since when does armabot have op status again?
19:27 <dBd|Click> i dunno :P
19:28 <wrtlprnft> grml, this is the first time i got kicked.
19:28 <dBd|Click> lolz
19:28 <BabyBug> since i can kick you wrtlprnft!
19:28 <BabyBug> =P
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19:28 <@wrtlprnft> BabyBug: can you?
19:29 <BabyBug> lol predictable xD
19:29 <dBd|Click> lol :O
19:29 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
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19:29 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: kick him
19:29 <dBd|Click> kick who??
19:29 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft:
19:29 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, you don't shave so i won't listen to you! lalalalalala
19:30 <dBd|Click> lol
19:30 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: I do to shave, just not my nice sideburns :)
19:30 <dBd|Click> ima go pwn in racing :D
19:30 <wrtlprnft> w - a blessed +9 pair of kicking boots named pwn (worn)
19:30 <wrtlprnft> #kick
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19:30 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:31 <wrtlprnft> in what direction? j
19:31 <Lizmatic> kick me BabyBug!
19:31 <wrtlprnft> BabyBug gets splattered all around
19:32 <wrtlprnft> ^D i mean, #kick doesn't even exist
19:32 <wrtlprnft> shame on me
19:32 <BabyBug> wrtlprnft, yes it does :P
19:32 <wrtlprnft> not in nethack
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20:37 <madmax> #tea
20:37 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (10/32): CTxTadd, DoCtOr~<(^.^)>, Hex, madmax, MrChicho, Player 1, |x|Dimb, ~BoO!~<(^.^)>~, ¦×¦ Hoax, ¦×¦ Radian
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21:13 <wrtlprnft> z-man: err, is it just me failing to see it or do protocol buffers not suport floats?
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21:13 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel, z-man: err, is it just me failing to see it or do protocol buffers not suport floats?
21:14 <wrtlprnft> though we could of course just use our old float encoding function and make google believe they're uint32s
21:14 <zmanuel> no, they support floats and doubles just fine.
21:15 <wrtlprnft> oh, right at the top, no description, darn me
21:16 <wrtlprnft> i directly skipped to the rows that had something in the notes column
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21:27 <nsh22> WOW... lagtest site. wow. just amazing. wow
21:27 <Lucifer> well that's an interesting development
21:27 <nsh22> what is?
21:27 <Lucifer> my replacement at the school is going to be unable to do the job, so I just received all the nighttime hours again
21:27 <Lucifer> it's an improvement, at least
21:28 <BabyBug> you prefer working at night?
21:28 <Lucifer> well, yes and no
21:28 <nsh22> what do you do at the school?
21:28 <Lucifer> I like working at night, but there are disadvantages that go with it that I don't want
21:28 <Lucifer> nsh22: I'm a physics lab assistant
21:28 <nsh22> oh
21:28 <Lucifer> low pay, few hours, but it's a wonderful job
21:28 <nsh22> are u able to play while at work?
21:28 <Lucifer> nsh22: no, they block udp traffic
21:29 <nsh22> aw
21:29 * Lucifer has to leave for work soon
21:29 <wrtlprnft> zmanuel: you'll be pleased to know that google knows very well about CamelCase and underscore_seperated_identifiers… they even convert between them for java
21:30 <wrtlprnft> grml, that's what you get for designing a language that has a style guide for how you're supposed to name your methods/classes
21:30 <BabyBug> wth does grml stand for?
21:30 <wrtlprnft> or for using a language that was designed that way, which we luckily don't
21:30 <zmanuel> Yes, but some of their method names in the C++ interface are CamelCase, some underscored.
21:31 <epsy> Google Roams Mail Lists
21:31 <wrtlprnft> just a random noise
21:31 <wrtlprnft> disappointment, anger, disapprovement, that kind of thing
21:31 <BabyBug> O.o
21:33 <wrtlprnft> grrrrrrrml
21:33 * BabyBug shoves wrtlprnft in a grml
21:33 <nsh22> lol
21:33 <wrtlprnft> General Reuse Markup Language
21:34 <wrtlprnft> grml.org - Linux Live-CD for sysadmins and texttools-users
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21:41 <Lucifer> zmanuel: I think you should know, I'm a little disappointed and a little excited about your google find
21:41 <Lucifer> I'm disappointed because dammit, I wanted to write a python program that did exactly that!
21:41 <Lucifer> but I'm excited because now I don't have to :)
21:41 <dlh> Lucifer: 0.3.1 release soon?
21:42 <Lucifer> dlh: we'll see, I had hoped to release it already, but the windows version wasn't ready and took more work
21:42 <Lucifer> now I've got higher priorities, like finding a job....
21:42 <Lucifer> right now I'm unable to plan beyond this evening
21:42 <Lucifer> and I have to work this evening
21:43 <dlh> hmm, yes that is a higher priority
21:43 <Lucifer> if you want to take it over and push it through, I think it's mostly ready for release
21:43 <Lucifer> z-man did some work on the windows version, we could use a new set of alphas, and I can build autopackages later this evening for it
21:44 <Lucifer> otherwise, I'll get back to it as soon as I can, hopefully soon (I'm hoping this weekend)
21:44 <Lucifer> on the bright side, I've got a phone interview scheduled for 5pm this evening that's very promising
21:44 <Lucifer> and another one for 1pm tomorrow afternoon that's also very promising
21:45 <ivantis2> whats a phone interview?
21:45 <zmanuel> Lucifer: yeah, I really wanted to write something like that, too :)
21:45 <nsh22> ivantis2 : its an interview over the phone
21:46 <ivantis2> that sounds easy
21:46 <Lucifer> ivantis2: they're usually done to sift out the unqualified applicants that made it through the initial resume screen
21:46 <Lucifer> they're also usually followed up by one or more in-person interviews, for the applicants that make it past the phone interview
21:47 <Lucifer> the ones that don't, well, they're told "We'll call you"
21:47 <ivantis2> "Yeah, we'll get back to you"
21:47 <nsh22> i had that happen to me
21:47 <Lucifer> my problem is getting to the phone interview
21:48 <ivantis2> how does inotail -f work? it watches the timestamp of the file? or it gets updates when the file is updated automatically?
21:48 <Lucifer> generally speaking, once I get the phone interview, I'm in
21:48 <epsy> ivantis2, it uses ... tadadada INOTify !
21:48 <Lucifer> hell, over the weekend I had a wonderful job, heh
21:48 <Lucifer> well, gotta clean up my scraggly face a bit and then go to work, bbl
21:49 <nsh22> over the weekend?
21:49 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
21:49 * epsy points out that the first thing written on inotail's manpage is
21:49 <epsy> inotail - A fast and lightweight version of tail using inotify
21:49 <Lucifer> it's a beautiful day to ride
21:49 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 74.7°F (2:45 PM CST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Falling).
21:49 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
21:49 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 23.9°F (3:49 PM EST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Steady).
21:49 <nsh22> i win
21:49 <ivantis2> so when the program editing it saves it, the thing that actually saves it tells inotail?
21:49 <epsy> #weather nsh22
21:49 <@armabot> epsy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:49 <epsy> no, the kernel notices it
21:49 <epsy> #weather nsh
21:50 <@armabot> epsy: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:50 <ivantis2> #weather 66044
21:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 49.1°F (2:49 PM CST on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 48.2°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Falling).
21:50 <epsy> #weather epsy
21:50 <@armabot> epsy: The current temperature in Kaliningrad, Poland is 33.8°F (10:30 PM EET on January 21, 2009). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 28.4°F. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
21:50 <ivantis2> ??
21:50 <nsh22> #weather nsh22
21:50 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:50 <ivantis2> #weather ivantis
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21:50 <epsy> ivantis2, man inotify
21:50 <@armabot> ivantis2: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
21:50 <ivantis2> i dont get one?
21:51 <ivantis2> and why are f00li5h and iank still here?
21:51 <epsy> who cares except you?
21:52 <ivantis2> no one
21:52 <epsy> Right.
22:11 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r828 Added stubs for utility functions....
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23:08 <nsh22> hey pink
23:08 <PinkTomato> hi nsh22
23:08 <PinkTomato> ^^
23:08 <nsh22> lol
23:17 * BabyBug pokes Lucifer
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23:40 <nsh22> ugh, anybody know how to get phpbb working on x10hosting?
23:43 <flea> nsh22,can you upload the package into a web folder and go to that url
23:44 <nsh22> it installs into the public_html folde4r
23:44 <nsh22> which is the default
23:45 <nsh22> ima start from scratch and see
23:49 <nsh22> opinion question: what is better: yabb forums or phpbb forums
23:52 * BabyBug throws ct|kyle off a cliff
23:56 <PinkTomato> nsh22: don't ask about forums!
23:56 <nsh22> lol why not?
23:56 <PinkTomato> we already had this argument about which is best ^^
23:56 <BabyBug> And neither of all the forums are the best
23:56 <nsh22> well, my host is beiong a homo and isnt showing the installed forum
23:56 <BabyBug> As it differs for what you want :)
23:57 <nsh22> GRRRRRR
23:57 <nsh22> it took me a month to get this stupid free host and now it wont let me add phpbb
23:58 <flea> nsh22, i would complain too if i sucked
23:58 <nsh22> XD
23:59 <dlh> #sd -v café
23:59 <@armabot> dlh: Fortress Café (armagetron.at:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20090117 unix dedicated, url: http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/, Description: “This is a fortress server. Expect to be kicked if you don't know how to play. To learn how to play try http://wiki.armagetronad.net/“, Players (11/32): CT_emmy (peiaemanuel@ct), Flex, free kill, Lackadaisical, madmax (madmax@forums), MaZuffeR, preSsure, Tðbê, |x| (1 more message)
Log from 2009-01-22:
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00:23 <nsh22> hey smooth
00:23 <smoothice> hi
00:24 <nsh22> GRRRRRRR
00:24 <smoothice> ?
00:24 <nsh22> phpbb is pissing me off!!!!!
00:25 <nsh22> ugh, im admin and the admin username and pass isnt letting me login!
00:29 <nsh22> ahhh a nice relaxing tune
00:30 <smoothice> ?
00:30 <nsh22> lazy afternoons - yoko shimomura
00:30 <nsh22> fform kingdom hearts
00:32 <smoothice> where are you using phpbb?
00:32 <nsh22> on my site
00:32 <smoothice> what site
00:33 <nsh22> thefoodsite.x10hosting
00:33 <nsh22> i ave a food site that works (and has phpbb)
00:33 <nsh22> but this one has a file manager
00:33 <nsh22> im gonna try yab
00:36 <smoothice> try punBB
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00:38 <nsh22> YAY I GOT IT TO WORK!
00:38 * nsh22 is very happy
00:39 <ct|kyle> nsh22: myBB :P
00:40 <nsh22> i got phpbb to work
00:40 <nsh22> i r happy
00:40 <ct|kyle> 3 or 2
00:40 <nsh22> 3 obvi
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00:41 <ct|kyle> CT is going to switch to myBB :)
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00:41 <nsh22> from phpbb3?
00:41 -!- iccleoldme is now known as BabyBug
00:41 <ct|kyle> from phpbb 2
00:41 <nsh22> lol u should just upgrade to 3
00:41 <ct|kyle> nsh22: so many hacks that we have created
00:42 <nsh22> for 2?
00:42 <ct|kyle> that we made in 2
00:42 <nsh22> like?
00:43 <ct|kyle> whe've probably touched every code they have
00:43 <nsh22> lol
00:43 <nsh22> im signed up there
00:43 <nsh22> will i have to re register
00:44 <ct|kyle> nsh22: LOL ya i changed that code just a week ago
00:44 <nsh22> ?
00:44 <ct|kyle> addition or subtraction captcha
00:44 <nsh22> i meant will i need to re register on the new site ur doing
00:45 <smoothice> myBB?
00:45 <smoothice> What's so special about mybb
00:45 <nsh22> yes
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00:47 <smoothice> ct|kyle: what's so special about mybb
00:47 <nsh22> question: is it possible to transfer a forum to another exactly. (i.e. specific topic and announcements etc
00:47 <smoothice> sometimes
00:47 <nsh22> like?
00:48 <smoothice> IPB can be created from phpBB
00:49 <nsh22> no, i meant from 1 phpbb to another phpbb
00:49 <nsh22> like transfering from one forum to another
00:49 <smoothice> well
00:49 <smoothice> yeah
00:49 <smoothice> just export the sql database
00:49 <smoothice> and reimport it somewhere else
00:49 <smoothice> Unless it's a free forum from a free forum provider then you cannot
00:49 <nsh22> ermmm im fooked then
00:49 <smoothice> lol
00:50 <smoothice> or
00:50 <smoothice> using Apache
00:50 <smoothice> proxy the free forum using mod_proxy
00:50 <nsh22> its cuz i had a fod site before (like in december) then the hos was a bitch. i got all the backups of the files but not the mysqls
00:50 <nsh22> unless the backup contains them
00:51 <smoothice> I don't know
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00:52 <nsh22> PINK ih
00:52 <PinkTomato> :)
00:53 <nsh22> i got phpbb to work
00:54 <ct|kyle> smoothice: Just what the server techs agreed on a while back, seamed like it would be nice for what we do
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00:56 <nsh22> PinkTomato : do you know anything about phpbb?
00:56 <smoothice> ct|kyle: but myBB seems so much less professional than IPB or phpbb
00:56 <smoothice> ct|kyle: why not IPB or vbulletin
00:56 <PinkTomato> isn't that pay software?
00:57 <PinkTomato> nsh22: phpBB is a standard
00:57 <ct|kyle> that is what i was going to say
00:57 <nsh22> ?
00:57 <PinkTomato> everyone uses phpbb
00:57 <nsh22> lol ok then
00:57 <PinkTomato> so there is a lot of understanding about it
00:57 <PinkTomato> and it does everything
00:57 <PinkTomato> almost.
00:58 <PinkTomato> makes it bloated
00:58 <smoothice> Phpbb is pretty vulnerable though
00:58 <nsh22> but do you know if you can transfer actual forums (withusers, topics etc) intact from one host to another>
00:58 <smoothice> since it's the most popular
00:58 <ct|kyle> going from phpbb to mybb is like going from windows to linux :)
00:58 * nsh22 is listening to yellow submarine
01:00 <ct|kyle> smoothice: what do you think about this idea instead of WINZONE_DEATH setting have WINZONE_TYPE 1(win) 2 (death) 3(Rubber)
01:00 <smoothice> ct|kyle: that'd be awesome
01:00 <nsh22> maybe just zone_type
01:00 <ct|kyle> ENDZONE_TYPE
01:00 <nsh22> wouldnt that make more sense
01:01 <ct|kyle> nsh22: ya
01:01 <nsh22> is this for a release or just ct servers?
01:01 <ct|kyle> sty+ct branch
01:02 <nsh22> what?
01:02 <smoothice> nsh22: luke can probably replace your server with sty+ct if you asked him
01:02 <smoothice> luke-jr: couldn’t you?
01:02 <nsh22> ct has its own branch?
01:02 <ct|kyle> nsh22: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-ct/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct
01:02 <luke-jr> smoothice: yep
01:02 <nsh22> so that has the code for all kinds of different goodies?
01:03 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: phpBB is not at all standard
01:03 <ct|kyle> all of sty + SPWAN_ZONES and a better Ladderlog
01:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: I know you will argue it is not better
01:03 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: what?
01:03 <nsh22> luke-jr: not trying to be cheap, but would u want to be paid for changing it to sty+ct
01:03 <luke-jr> nsh22: no
01:03 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ladderlog in sty+ct
01:04 <smoothice> luke-jr : what is standard for forum software then
01:04 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I meant it is pretty standard, as in everyone uses it.
01:04 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: why isn't it better?
01:04 <PinkTomato> not a 'offical
01:04 <PinkTomato> standard
01:04 <nsh22> luke-jr : could you do that (when u have the time of course) for me?
01:04 <luke-jr> smoothice: there is no standard, because forums are in general a bad hack
01:05 <smoothice> ?????
01:05 <luke-jr> smoothice: the standard is known as NNTP
01:06 <luke-jr> and not supported by web browsers
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01:06 <smoothice> yeah
01:08 <luke-jr> nsh22: auth?
01:08 <smoothice> nsh22: say yes
01:08 <luke-jr> …
01:08 <smoothice> llol
01:08 <nsh22> luke-jr : the sty+ct branch
01:09 <nsh22> luke-jr : and yes, according to smooth
01:09 <smoothice> nsh22: auth = player authenication instead of admin_pass
01:09 <nsh22> ah
01:09 <smoothice> nsh22: but yeah It's pretty cool so say yes :)
01:09 <nsh22> yes
01:09 <nsh22> lol
01:09 <nsh22> i said it
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01:10 <luke-jr> nsh22: building now
01:11 <nsh22> thank you very much
01:11 * nsh22 loves luke-jr's hosting service
01:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: is nsh22 allowed to run a php parser too
01:11 <luke-jr> smoothice: of course
01:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: for map rotate
01:11 <smoothice> ok
01:11 <luke-jr> though
01:11 <nsh22> oh
01:11 <luke-jr> I'd rather Perl
01:11 <luke-jr> PHP is bloated
01:11 <luke-jr> :þ
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01:12 <luke-jr> I have a message/map rotater in BASH if you want it
01:12 <luke-jr> just reads a txt file
01:12 <nsh22> what is bash?
01:13 <luke-jr> a scripting language
01:13 <luke-jr> based on sh
01:13 <nsh22> ah
01:13 <smoothice> I prefer php
01:13 <smoothice> but
01:13 <luke-jr> PHP eats memory ☹
01:13 <smoothice> oh
01:13 <smoothice> true
01:13 <smoothice> I don't know nsh22 wanted a map rotator
01:13 <smoothice> so
01:13 <smoothice> yeah
01:13 <nsh22> if you have a rotator could i use it?
01:14 <luke-jr> I should probably add the map rotator to my web interface
01:14 <luke-jr> nsh22: sure
01:14 <nsh22> thank you
01:14 <nsh22> :)
01:14 <smoothice> nsh22: w00t!
01:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: make a messages.txt and rmaps.txt files
01:15 <luke-jr> and uplaod them to your svc/aa dir
01:15 <luke-jr> messages.txt contains once-per-round console announcement msgs
01:15 <nsh22> how would i upload tehem, ftp?
01:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: I'd get VPS hosting from you if your lowest plan was like $3 cheaper
01:15 <luke-jr> rmaps.txt contains a once-per-round MAP_FILE
01:15 <luke-jr> smoothice: $3 cheaper than the 15% off?
01:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: SFTP
01:15 <smoothice> luke-jr: Yeah my maximum budget is $12/month
01:16 <luke-jr> smoothice: do you need the full specs?
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01:17 <smoothice> luke-jr: I don't need 16gb disk
01:17 <nsh22> whats the ftp adress?
01:20 <BabyBug> arf...anyone here know python well?
01:20 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r829 Implemented utility functions....
01:20 <smoothice> not really
01:21 <luke-jr> nsh22: lightfoot-ct.dashjr.org
01:23 <nsh22> luke-jr : is the nae and pass the same as my cp?
01:25 <nsh22> luke-jr : nvm i got it
01:27 <nsh22> luke-jr : ok i uploaded the files (nothing in them) what do i do now?
01:28 <smoothice> nsh22: the master server shows you're server is still running 0.2.8 alpha from august 22nd 2008
01:28 <smoothice> nsh22: he isn't running sty+ct for you yet
01:28 <nsh22> smoothice ok
01:29 <nsh22> hmmm, if i put them in the var directory as cfgs, would it let me edit them from the cp like the other cfgs in there?
01:31 <nsh22> smoothice : could i have the color codes for the nw sever name?
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01:31 <smoothice> nsh22: I'll pm them to you on NW forums
01:32 <nsh22> kk
01:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: they need to have something ;p
01:33 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ok LOL thought you would complain about it for some reason, anyway python vs php scripts
01:33 <luke-jr> nsh22: and they can't be in th evar dir
01:33 <nsh22> luke-jr : lol i didnt put them there, i was just wondering what would happen
01:34 <nsh22> luke-jr : anyways, so the map_file for a map goes in rmaps and then in messages, center_message goes in there?
01:34 <smoothice> nsh22: sent
01:34 <nsh22> smoothice : ok ty
01:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: it's not centered
01:35 <luke-jr> just console msg
01:35 <ct|kyle> smoothice: nsh22, for luke-jr scripts don't follow ladderlog directly, you'll have to strip out the [L] stuff
01:35 <nsh22> luke-jr: ok
01:35 <nsh22> ct|kyle : umm what?
01:35 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ???
01:35 <smoothice> lol
01:35 <ct|kyle> :P
01:35 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: smoothice isn't using my stuff
01:35 <luke-jr> and nsh22's script was designed for that
01:35 <ct|kyle> ok luke-jr
01:36 <smoothice> ct|kyle: yeah I was using php parser
01:36 <ct|kyle> i just knew smoothice used ladderlog
01:36 <luke-jr> nsh22: your server is reconfigured
01:36 <smoothice> yeah
01:36 <luke-jr> once you uplaoded valid .txts, restart it
01:36 <luke-jr> restarting it before you have valid .txts will cause chaos
01:36 <nsh22> ok
01:37 <nsh22> i have to go very shortly so ill do it tomorrow
01:37 <luke-jr> it'll autorestart before tomorrow :/
01:37 <nsh22> ill delete the txts then
01:37 <luke-jr> I'll disable the script until then
01:37 <nsh22> ok ty
01:37 <luke-jr> .txts missing cause CPU waste ;p
01:38 <nsh22> oh
01:41 <nsh22> ok i g2g now
01:41 <smoothice> ok
01:41 <nsh22> ill be on tomorrow
01:42 <nsh22> luke-jr : thx for all the help and settings
01:42 <nsh22> smoothice : thx for the codes for the name
01:42 <nsh22> pc
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01:55 <smoothice> European connection problem?
01:55 <smoothice> European connection problem?
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01:57 <PinkTomato> nope that seemed like mostly everybody
01:57 <smoothice> lol
01:57 <smoothice> except three of it
01:57 <smoothice> us
01:57 <smoothice> me, tramshed, and
01:57 <smoothice> someone else
01:57 <PinkTomato> hehe :D
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03:01 * BabyBug throws a brick at Lucifer
03:01 <BabyBug> grrrr
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03:09 * Lucifer catches the brick and throws it back at BabyBug
03:09 <Lucifer> rrrrg
03:09 <BabyBug> Oh yay!
03:09 <BabyBug> Are you busy?
03:09 <Lucifer> sorta, just got home, what's up?
03:09 <BabyBug> Want some python help/advice.. I'll still be around for a few hours so it can wait
03:10 <Lucifer> heh, just ask the question, I'll answer in a few minutes
03:10 <Lucifer> need something to drink, to pee, etc.
03:10 <Lucifer> maybe toss dinner in the microwave
03:10 <BabyBug> Ok, i'll pm you a link..
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03:24 * ct|kyle pours a bucket of ice on BabyBug
03:25 <BabyBug> Do you mind?...I'm cold enough with a broken boiler!
03:25 <ct|kyle> lol BabyBug, why did toy stab the pipes
03:25 <ct|kyle> did your*
03:25 <ct|kyle> you*
03:26 <ct|kyle> dam i'm too tired to type correctly
03:26 <BabyBug> No..lol but it leaked...and water went everywhere
03:26 <BabyBug> and it's all broked
03:26 <ct|kyle> heh, i guess you'll have to cuddle someone to warm up now :P
03:27 * smoothice fixes BabyBug's boiler
03:29 * ct|kyle wold not trust smoothice to fix a boiler
03:31 <smoothice> just because I'm barely knowledgeable in C++ doesn't mean I cannot fix boilers
03:32 <BabyBug> Are you a plumber?
03:33 <smoothice> meh
03:33 <smoothice> I tought myself after my home boiler broke
03:33 <smoothice> I fixed it myself
03:33 <BabyBug> Well you're not an electrician then.
03:33 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: no he is the famous Joe the plumber :P
03:33 <BabyBug> And here you need to be qualified to touch any electrics
03:33 <BabyBug> Otherwise it's against the law :P
03:34 <ct|kyle> lol
03:34 <ct|kyle> even if you are homeowner
03:34 <BabyBug> Yesh
03:34 <ct|kyle> that is why i hate government
03:34 <BabyBug> Not allowed to.
03:34 <BabyBug> End of
03:34 <smoothice> I don't own a home
03:34 <smoothice> I don't own any property
03:34 <smoothice> yet
03:37 <ct|kyle> i've done plumbing, electric and all kinds of that junk w/o any certification :)
03:37 <ct|kyle> except for my crack to prove it :P
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03:39 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: do you know what voltage most of the home outlets run on
03:39 <BabyBug> 240v?
03:40 <ct|kyle> oh now i know why licence
03:40 <ct|kyle> that can easly be deadly
03:40 <BabyBug> lol yes it can =P
03:41 <ct|kyle> cause the electrons are moving back and forth every 1/120th of a second
03:41 <sinewav> US voltage != international voltage
03:41 <ct|kyle> that is wht i asked i knew it was differnt in different places
03:41 <ct|kyle> i still have ran and worked with some 240v lines
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03:44 <sinewav> Hmmm. I think I'll go to the liquor store...
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03:46 <ct|kyle> lol
03:46 <ct|kyle> he already got krunk
03:47 <smoothice> ?
03:47 <ct|kyle> #google urban krunk
03:47 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.19 seconds: Urban Dictionary: Elektro Krunk: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Elektro%20Krunk>; Urban Dictionary: Kaptain Krunk: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kaptain%20Krunk>; KRUNK PRESENTS THE FIRST-EVER SILKSCREEN PRINTS FROM URBAN ART ...: <http://whatyouwrite.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/krunk-presents-the-first-ever-silkscreen- (3 more messages)
03:48 <smoothice> #google define kyle
03:48 <@armabot> smoothice: Search took 0.16 seconds: MySpace.com - Define : Kyle (n.) - 18 - Male - SURPRISE, Arizona ...: <http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=17657584>; Re: [PD] Abstraction [ define ] - Kyle Klipowicz - at.iem.pd-list ...: <http://markmail.org/message/67e4qzfisc3ua6ij>; Kyle Ward | English | Dictionary & Translation by Babylon: (3 more messages)
03:48 <smoothice> lol...
03:48 <ct|kyle> smoothice: Originally derived from the two words: "crazy drunk".
03:49 <smoothice> No definitions were found for smoothice.
03:49 <smoothice> kyle: Originally derived from the word: "imbecilic"
03:51 <ct|kyle> #google urban dictionary obama
03:51 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.20 seconds: Urban Dictionary : Obama: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Obama>; Urban Dictionary : Obama Baby: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Obama%20Baby>; Urban Dictionary : Obama Baby | Woosk: <http://www.woosk.com/2008/11/urban-dictionary-obama-baby.html>; Urban Dictionary : Obama - StumbleUpon: (2 more messages)
03:51 <ct|kyle> ^^ that is some fun reading
03:51 <smoothice> lol
03:52 <ct|kyle> in the later pages :P
03:55 * ct|kyle wonders what it says about bush LOL
03:55 <smoothice> LOL!
03:55 <smoothice> #google urban dictionary bush
03:55 <@armabot> smoothice: Search took 0.16 seconds: Urban Dictionary : bush doctrine: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bush+doctrine>; Urban Dictionary : bush 'it: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%20bush'it>; Urbandictionary definition of Bush - Democratic Underground: <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x1372739>; I needed a (3 more messages)
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04:27 <ct|kyle> sinewav: done with that hangover finally
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04:55 <sinewav> A good friend has reccomended Ubuntu. Any reason why I shouldn't take his advice?
04:56 <luke-jr> yes
04:56 <Lucifer> because it doesn't start with a K
04:56 <luke-jr> Ubuntu is GNOME-oriented
04:57 <luke-jr> indeed, only run stuff starting with a K
04:57 <sinewav> I use windows, so I don't understand.
04:57 <BabyBug> sinewav, go with ubuntu =)
04:57 <luke-jr> Windows doesn't start with a K either
04:57 <Lucifer> kubuntu
04:57 <BabyBug> ubuntu*
04:57 <BabyBug> fix your keyboard Lucifer
04:57 <luke-jr> kubuntu*
04:57 <BabyBug> ubuntu*
04:57 <sinewav> what is the diff?
04:57 <luke-jr> #kick BabyBug
04:57 <luke-jr> kubuntu*
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04:57 <luke-jr> sinewav: kubuntu starts with a K
04:57 <Lucifer> well, you can go with the 18yo girl who's probably a fat old hairy man pretending to be an internet lesbian
04:57 <Lucifer> or you can go with me
04:58 <BabyBug> #kick luke-jr that was childish!
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04:58 <Lucifer> Kubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE
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04:58 <luke-jr> wtf, when did BabyBug get access? XD
04:58 <sinewav> :o
04:58 <Lucifer> soon after you did
04:58 * luke-jr makes note.
04:58 * luke-jr only abuses power on people who can't fight back.
04:58 <sinewav> ha
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04:58 <BabyBug> haha
04:59 <sinewav> so, the diff between kubintu and reg is?
04:59 <luke-jr> the K
04:59 <BabyBug> Lucifer, KDE != Ubuntu + KDE....
04:59 <Lucifer> Kubuntu has KDE, Ubuntu has GNOME
04:59 <ct|kyle> sinewav: kubuntu uses KDE and ubuntu uses gnome(wich sucks)
04:59 <BabyBug> Why does everyone hate gnome?!
04:59 <luke-jr> it sucks
04:59 <BabyBug> KDE is so complicated
05:00 <ct|kyle> because it sucks
05:00 <luke-jr> it's ugly too
05:00 <luke-jr> and slow
05:00 <BabyBug> gnome is nice and simple
05:00 <ct|kyle> KDE is so simple
05:00 <luke-jr> and bloated
05:00 <ct|kyle> with a lot of fine tuning settings :)
05:00 <Lucifer> because the GNOME developers are just like the Windows developers
05:00 <Lucifer> they think they know better how to setup your computer than you
05:00 * sinewav in now researching kde vs gnome
05:00 <Lucifer> so, really, you might feel more at home in GNOME
05:00 * luke-jr wonders if the GNOME idiots will get a clue and finally move to Qt for GNOME 3
05:00 <Lucifer> but you will probably have more fun with KDE
05:00 <BabyBug> I tried KDE
05:00 <BabyBug> didn't like it
05:01 <BabyBug> kept getting lost
05:01 <ct|kyle> when i started KDE was more at home than gnome
05:01 <Lucifer> now, my server is going to arrive here soon, so I'll bbiab
05:01 <Lucifer> KDE's default configuration is more windows-like than GNOME's, iirc
05:01 <Lucifer> but that's the thing, KDE gives you plenty of options
05:01 <luke-jr> I think KDE needs to restore the KPersonalizer
05:01 <ct|kyle> ya
05:01 <BabyBug> Lucifer, When i first started using a computer...it was Ubuntu =P so windows like doesn't help =P
05:01 <Lucifer> GNOME doesn't, in fact they explicitly don't give you options because "preferences dialogs are too confusing for users"
05:02 * sinewav just read "Since then, the rivalry between KDE and GNOME has lost much of passion. However, you can still sometimes hear developers argue over which has the superior object model or some other technical aspect that is mostly invisible to the average user."
05:02 <BabyBug> (has only properly been using a computer for... 7 months)
05:02 <Lucifer> sinewav: some of us care about how the developers treat the users :)
05:02 <Lucifer> and while KDE isn't really nice either, they are nicer than GNOME developers
05:02 <smoothice> KDE rulez
05:02 <sinewav> ah.
05:02 <luke-jr> last time I tried GNOME, it was too slow to use
05:02 <Lucifer> well, I can't switch to KDE4 because my computer is too slow, so nyah
05:02 <BabyBug> sinewav, the funny thing is...I'm a user, they're developers
05:03 <Lucifer> bbiab
05:03 <BabyBug> The USER is picking gnome
05:03 <luke-jr> Lucifer: KDE 4 is supposed to be lighter
05:03 <Lucifer> BabyBug: as far as the desktop is concerned, I'm a user too
05:03 <luke-jr> BabyBug: no, you're a *L*USER
05:03 <Lucifer> and I've picked KDE
05:03 <BabyBug> you're not user Lucifer
05:03 <Lucifer> am so
05:03 <BabyBug> a*
05:03 <BabyBug> am not
05:03 <sinewav> there are two things holding me back from Linux based systems.
05:03 <Lucifer> am so
05:03 <BabyBug> am not
05:03 <Lucifer> am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so am so
05:03 <sinewav> ...
05:04 <BabyBug> am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not am not
05:04 <sinewav> kick for smap
05:04 <Lucifer> heh, you were ready with that, weren't you?
05:04 <sinewav> spam
05:04 <BabyBug> yes i was Lucifer
05:04 <BabyBug> lol
05:04 <BabyBug> That's how predictable you are xD
05:04 <Lucifer> anyway, bbiab, my server's about to arrive
05:04 <BabyBug> for the 4th time...
05:04 <smoothice> server?
05:04 <luke-jr> Lucifer: yeah yeah, you already tried that trick
05:04 <luke-jr> sinewav: I'm waiting!
05:05 <smoothice> #r
05:05 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
05:05 <ct|kyle> sinewav: the terminal?
05:05 <ct|kyle> #r
05:05 <luke-jr> hey, do we have enough players for TWG?
05:05 <smoothice> #help r
05:05 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-147-102.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
05:05 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:05 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-147-102.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
05:05 <@armabot> smoothice: (r <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "roulette $*".
05:05 <ct|kyle> I knew it
05:05 <smoothice> lol
05:06 <smoothice> why does it affect you
05:06 <smoothice> not me
05:06 <sinewav> too noisy here
05:06 <BabyBug> sinewav, what are the two things holding you back...
05:06 <ct|kyle> sinewav: speak we'll sort it out :P
05:06 <sinewav> ok, I'm nervous about the learing curve for one.
05:06 <sinewav> I'm a noob
05:06 -!- YandereBot [n=Pharo@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
05:06 <luke-jr> sinewav: you can configure KDE to work like Windows, so no learning curve
05:07 <sinewav> the second reason is not having my most cherised software tools
05:07 <luke-jr> they suck anyway
05:07 <sinewav> no, not Reason by propellerhead
05:07 <sinewav> amazing
05:07 <luke-jr> wtf?
05:07 <sinewav> audio software
05:07 <BabyBug> Reason rocks
05:07 <sinewav> professional
05:07 <BabyBug> agreed
05:07 <smoothice> #r
05:07 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
05:07 <luke-jr> audio is audio
05:07 <luke-jr> 2 channels of varying frequencies
05:07 <sinewav> yes and no
05:07 <luke-jr> simple
05:08 <smoothice> YandereBot: hi
05:08 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
05:08 <ct|kyle> #r
05:08 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
05:08 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-147-102.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
05:08 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
05:08 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-147-102.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
05:08 <smoothice> !join
05:08 <YandereBot> smoothice: You don't have permission to do that.
05:08 <luke-jr> smoothice: it means !yandere
05:08 <smoothice> !yandere
05:08 <ct|kyle> i think Lucifer put only my name in the hat
05:08 <smoothice> !yandere
05:08 <ct|kyle> !yandere join
05:08 <ct|kyle> !yandere part
05:08 <YandereBot> ct|kyle: The game hasn't started yet.
05:08 <luke-jr> smoothice: read your notice
05:08 <smoothice> I did
05:09 <BabyBug> Why bring the bot in the chat channel...
05:09 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
05:09 <BabyBug> That's just plain silly
05:09 <sinewav> ...
05:09 <smoothice> !join
05:09 <YandereBot> smoothice: You don't have permission to do that.
05:09 <luke-jr> cuz that's where ppl are
05:09 <smoothice> !yandere
05:09 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
05:09 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
05:09 <BabyBug> ...
05:09 <luke-jr> BabyBug: !Y
05:09 <BabyBug> No
05:09 <ct|kyle> '!yandere join'
05:09 <luke-jr> f u stupid gnome luser
05:10 <BabyBug> fuck you two prick
05:10 <luke-jr> too*
05:10 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
05:10 <BabyBug> (purposely said two)
05:10 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
05:10 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
05:10 <smoothice> !help
05:10 <luke-jr> !yandere help
05:10 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is a variation of the classic Mafia game, also known as Werewolf. A new game is about to start. Type "!join" to join.
05:10 <YandereBot> This is a detective game. It cycles between two phases: During the day, everyone gets together and tries to figure out who they think is a worm, and they can vote to lynch someone. During the night, players with special roles can perform actions that may shed some light.
05:10 <YandereBot> Each night, the worms can pick one player to kill. The object of the game is to find and kill the worms before they kill you. PM conversations between players is allowed at any time, but you MAY NOT copy/paste PM messages into the channel.
05:10 <ct|kyle> !part
05:10 <YandereBot> ct|kyle: You don't have permission to do that.
05:11 <sinewav> ok later.
05:11 -!- sinewav [n=sinewav@adsl-76-193-190-45.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
05:11 <smoothice> guys
05:11 <luke-jr> …
05:11 <smoothice> this sounds fun
05:11 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
05:11 <BabyBug> yes it is..So join #armatwgetron to play it
05:11 <smoothice> ?
05:11 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
05:11 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
05:12 <luke-jr> BabyBug: ct|kyle won't
05:12 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: FAIL
05:12 -!- smoothice2 [i=6176a246@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/session] has joined #armagetron
05:12 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
05:12 <luke-jr> …
05:12 <smoothice2> !join
05:12 <YandereBot> smoothice2: You don't have permission to do that.
05:12 <luke-jr> smoothice2: NO CHEATING
05:12 <smoothice2> !yandere
05:12 <smoothice> lol
05:12 <luke-jr> -.-
05:12 <luke-jr> !yandere end
05:12 <YandereBot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
05:12 <smoothice> fine
05:12 <smoothice> fine!!!
05:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: #armatwgetron to play
05:13 <smoothice2> lol...\
05:13 <smoothice2> fine
05:13 <luke-jr> BabyBug: ..,..
05:14 <BabyBug> luke-jr, .....
05:14 <luke-jr> BabyBug: fine, might as well play in here
05:15 <smoothice2> yeah
05:15 -!- smoothice2 [i=6176a246@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/session] has left #armagetron []
05:16 <smoothice> !yandere
05:16 <YandereBot> smoothice: You're already playing a game on this network. You can only be in one at a time.
05:17 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
05:17 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
05:17 <ct|kyle> !yandere join BabyBug
05:17 <smoothice> !yandere
05:17 <smoothice> !yandere join
05:17 <smoothice> !join
05:17 <YandereBot> smoothice: You don't have permission to do that.
05:17 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: echo !yandere join
05:17 <BabyBug> echo !yandere join
05:17 <ct|kyle> armabot: echo !yandere join
05:17 <@armabot> !yandere join
05:17 <smoothice> loL!
05:17 <ct|kyle> :P
05:17 <luke-jr> …
05:17 <luke-jr> that is going to be fail
05:18 <YandereBot> Today is Notepad's turn to get used! And he's been planning on this for quite some time now! All the libraries eagerly link, but they're met with a surprise: Notepad is missing, terminated by a resource limit. He seems to have been the victim of a worm!
05:18 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
05:18 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
05:18 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, ct|kyle, smoothice, and armabot.
05:18 <luke-jr> armabot: WHAT DID YOU DO TO NOTEPAD?
05:18 <luke-jr> !vote armabot
05:18 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for armabot. armabot: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
05:18 <luke-jr> ]echo !vote ct|kyle
05:18 <ljrbot> !vote ct|kyle
05:18 <YandereBot> ljrbot: You aren't in this game.
05:18 <ljrbot> YandereBot: Error: "You" is not a valid command.
05:18 <luke-jr> #echo !vote ct|kyle
05:18 <@armabot> !vote ct|kyle
05:18 <YandereBot> armabot has voted for ct|kyle. armabot: 1, ct|kyle: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
05:18 <ct|kyle> !vote luke-jr
05:18 <YandereBot> ct|kyle has voted for luke-jr. armabot: 1, ct|kyle: 1, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
05:18 <smoothice> ]say !yandere
05:18 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: "say" is not a valid command.
05:19 <smoothice> ]echo !yandere
05:19 <ljrbot> !yandere
05:19 <luke-jr> !vote ct|kyle
05:19 <YandereBot> luke-jr has switched from armabot to vote for ct|kyle. ct|kyle: 2, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
05:19 <smoothice> !vote luke-kr
05:19 <YandereBot> smoothice: luke-kr isn't in this game.
05:19 <smoothice> !vote luke-jr
05:19 <YandereBot> smoothice has voted for luke-jr. ct|kyle: 2, luke-jr: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
05:19 <YandereBot> Everyone has voted, but there is a tie. Someone will need to switch their vote, or you can type "!next" and force the group to abstain.
05:19 <luke-jr> noo
05:19 <luke-jr> kill ct|kyle
05:19 <smoothice> !kill ct|kyle
05:19 <YandereBot> smoothice has switched from luke-jr to vote for ct|kyle. ct|kyle: 3, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
05:19 <YandereBot> You lynch ct|kyle, and it turns out ct|kyle was NOT a worm!
05:19 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
05:19 <luke-jr> !yandere next
05:19 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
05:19 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, smoothice, and armabot.
05:19 <YandereBot> People are getting impatient! The night roles have 1 minute to make their decisions before the night ends.
05:19 <smoothice> !vote armabot
05:19 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that smoothice has any special ability.
05:20 <ct|kyle> #echo !vote luke-jr
05:20 <@armabot> !vote luke-jr
05:20 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that armabot has any special ability.
05:20 <luke-jr> :D
05:20 <luke-jr> I win
05:20 <BabyBug> #msg YandereBot !kill luke-jr
05:20 <luke-jr> u fail
05:20 <luke-jr> #msg luke-jr hi
05:20 <ct|kyle> i knowe it was you and i was going to kill you
05:20 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
05:20 <YandereBot> smoothice, who is not a worm, was eliminated by a hardware malfunction.
05:20 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
05:20 <YandereBot> Kills: ct|kyle
05:20 <YandereBot> Notifys: smoothice
05:20 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: armabot
05:20 <YandereBot> Worms: luke-jr
05:20 <smoothice> what the???
05:20 <smoothice> I'm so confused
05:20 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
05:21 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
05:21 <luke-jr> smoothice: I killed you.
05:21 <smoothice> oh
05:21 <smoothice> !yandere join
05:21 <ct|kyle> i had it set to kill luke-jr in first round :/
05:21 <smoothice> lol
05:21 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
05:22 <ct|kyle> ]echo !yandere join
05:22 <ljrbot> !yandere join
05:22 <ct|kyle> @echo !yandere join
05:22 <smoothice> teabot is gone
05:22 <smoothice> lol
05:22 <ct|kyle> #echo !yandere join
05:22 <@armabot> !yandere join
05:22 <smoothice> !help
05:22 <luke-jr> …
05:22 <smoothice> !help
05:22 <smoothice> !help
05:22 <smoothice> !help!help
05:22 <smoothice> lol
05:22 <smoothice> !yandere
05:23 <YandereBot> Today is gedit's turn to get used! And he's been planning on this for quite some time now! All the libraries eagerly link, but they're met with a surprise: gedit has been terminated by a hardware malfunction. This looks like the work of a worm!
05:23 <ct|kyle> !ignore list
05:23 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
05:23 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
05:23 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, smoothice, ljrbot, and armabot.
05:23 <luke-jr> ……..
05:23 <luke-jr> ]echo !vote smoothice
05:23 <ljrbot> !vote smoothice
05:23 <YandereBot> ljrbot has voted for smoothice. smoothice: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
05:23 <ct|kyle> ]echo !vote luke-jr
05:23 <ljrbot> YandereBot: Error: "has" is not a valid command.
05:23 <ljrbot> !vote luke-jr
05:23 <luke-jr> !vote smoothice
05:23 <YandereBot> ljrbot has switched from smoothice to vote for luke-jr. luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
05:23 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for smoothice. luke-jr: 1, smoothice: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
05:23 <ljrbot> YandereBot: Error: "has" is not a valid command.
05:23 <luke-jr> #echo vote smoothice
05:23 <ct|kyle> #echo !yandere join
05:23 <luke-jr> #echo !vote smoothice
05:23 <@armabot> vote smoothice
05:23 <BabyBug> #echo !vote luke-jr
05:23 <@armabot> !yandere join
05:23 <luke-jr> ]echo !vote smoothice
05:23 <ljrbot> !vote smoothice
05:23 <YandereBot> ljrbot has switched from luke-jr to vote for smoothice. smoothice: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
05:23 <@armabot> !vote smoothice
05:23 <YandereBot> armabot has voted for smoothice. smoothice: 3, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
05:23 <ljrbot> YandereBot: Error: "has" is not a valid command.
05:23 <@armabot> !vote luke-jr
05:23 <YandereBot> armabot has switched from smoothice to vote for luke-jr. smoothice: 2, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
05:23 <luke-jr> ]echo !vote smoothice
05:23 <ljrbot> !vote smoothice
05:23 <luke-jr> #]echo !vote smoothice
05:23 <luke-jr> #echo !vote smoothice
05:23 <@armabot> luke-jr: Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
05:23 <@armabot> !vote smoothice
05:23 <YandereBot> armabot has switched from luke-jr to vote for smoothice. smoothice: 3, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
05:24 <BabyBug> Stop the spam ><
05:24 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: you like it
05:24 <luke-jr> #echo stfu BabyBug
05:24 <@armabot> stfu BabyBug
05:24 <smoothice> !vote armabot
05:24 <YandereBot> smoothice has voted for armabot. smoothice: 3, armabot: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
05:24 <YandereBot> You lynch smoothice, and it turns out smoothice was NOT a worm!
05:24 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
05:24 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
05:24 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, ljrbot, and armabot.
05:24 <smoothice> HAHA
05:24 <smoothice> I WIN!
05:24 <luke-jr> !yandere help
05:24 <ct|kyle> lol
05:24 <luke-jr> you lose, retard
05:24 <luke-jr> !yandere hurry
05:24 <YandereBot> People are getting impatient! The night roles have 1 minute to make their decisions before the night ends.
05:24 <smoothice> I lose?
05:24 <smoothice> ':(
05:24 <luke-jr> no duh
05:24 <ct|kyle> !loli
05:25 <smoothice> #echo luke-jr: Yeah dumb*ss.
05:25 <luke-jr> ]lolly
05:25 <ljrbot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYmEICNgOQ
05:25 <@armabot> luke-jr: Yeah dumb*ss.
05:25 <YandereBot> The dawn comes, and it seems everyone survived the night.
05:25 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
05:25 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, ljrbot, and armabot.
05:25 <luke-jr> !vote armabot
05:25 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for armabot. armabot: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
05:25 <luke-jr> ]echo !vote armabot
05:25 <ljrbot> !vote armabot
05:25 <YandereBot> ljrbot has voted for armabot. armabot: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
05:25 <ljrbot> YandereBot: Error: "has" is not a valid command.
05:25 <luke-jr> #echo !abstain
05:25 <@armabot> !abstain
05:25 <YandereBot> armabot has voted to abstain. armabot: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 0
05:25 <YandereBot> You lynch armabot, and it turns out armabot was a worm!
05:25 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
05:25 <YandereBot> Bugs: smoothice
05:25 <YandereBot> Programs: ljrbot
05:25 <luke-jr> ok, I won for u smoothice
05:25 <smoothice> I WIN!
05:25 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: luke-jr
05:25 <smoothice> lol
05:25 <YandereBot> Worms: armabot
05:26 <luke-jr> bbl
05:26 <luke-jr> wifey wants me to go to bed
05:26 <smoothice> #armapwnage
05:26 <@armabot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
05:26 <luke-jr> ]lolly
05:26 <ljrbot> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYmEICNgOQ
05:26 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: wow you got her back
05:42 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-147-102.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving."]
06:01 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@unaffiliated/smoothice] has quit ["Leaving"]
06:02 <Lucifer> well, I guess we'll see if I can get weights for my weight bench
06:02 <Lucifer> I guess I can just lift the bar by itself for now, maybe do some sit-ups, then sit-ups holding just the bar
06:02 <BabyBug> Lucifer, uhh? random? lol
06:03 <Lucifer> heh, not really
06:03 <BabyBug> (That __import__ is going to work a treat btw =))
06:03 <Lucifer> I've spent a little time tonight fixing my weight bench
06:03 <Lucifer> now it's fixed, and I need weights, and I'm just commenting on it
06:04 <BabyBug> why do you have a weights bench but no weights? =\
06:04 <Lucifer> freebie
06:04 <BabyBug> ahhh
06:04 <BabyBug> a broken freebie?
06:04 <Lucifer> landlord evicted one of his other tenants and asked us if we wanted any of the crap left behind
06:04 <Lucifer> well, it was two partial weight benches
06:04 <Lucifer> I put them together and made one complete weight bench
06:04 <BabyBug> lol
06:05 <Lucifer> now I'm trying to dump the other weight bench
06:05 <BabyBug> ...
06:05 <BabyBug> Why don't you have weights with the other weight bench? lol
06:05 <Lucifer> if nobody on freecycle wants it, I'll probably take it apart for the trash man
06:05 <Lucifer> neither of them came with weights, they were just freebies
06:05 <Lucifer> my roommate is the one that said yes, and I thought it was worth seeing if I could get weights for free, too
06:06 <Lucifer> I know a house not too far from here that has weights laying outside, I might knock on their door and see if they're willing to part with them
06:06 <BabyBug> oo lol
06:07 <BabyBug> grab what ya can!
06:07 <BabyBug> =D
06:07 <BabyBug> (that freecycle things actually looks quite good)
06:07 <BabyBug> never heard of it before
06:07 <Lucifer> it is :)
06:07 <Lucifer> it's where I got my dryer
06:07 <BabyBug> There's even a group for my area!
06:07 <Lucifer> gas dryer, two years old. The people giving it away bought a new dryer to match their washer, so I got a friend with a truck to go get it
06:07 <BabyBug> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WNM_Freecycle/ =D
06:07 <Lucifer> hey, that's cool :)
06:08 <Lucifer> there's several groups in my area, I'm in two of them
06:08 <BabyBug> =( show off..
06:08 <Lucifer> heh
06:08 <Lucifer> I got a lot of my first winemaking supplies off freecycle, and wine bottles
06:08 <Lucifer> still had to buy a few things, though
06:08 <Lucifer> but when I quit making wine, I gave the stuff away to someone else on freecycle
06:09 <Lucifer> a computer case, in fact it's the one my desktop is in right now because it's a pretty nice case
06:09 <BabyBug> haha =D
06:10 <BabyBug> why didn't i think of the idea of freecycle ='(
06:11 <Lucifer> http://www.amazon.com/115%252dlb%252e-Plate%252dDesign-Weight-Set/dp/B000BBE22U/ref=sr_1_91?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1232600998&sr=1-91
06:11 <Lucifer> maybe I can talk one of my roommates into that
06:11 <BabyBug> #g 115lbs in kg
06:11 <@armabot> BabyBug: 115 pounds = 52.1631226 kilograms
06:11 <BabyBug> #g 115lbs in stone
06:11 <@armabot> BabyBug: 115 pounds = 8.21428571 stone
06:11 <Lucifer> #g 115lbs in newtons
06:12 <@armabot> Lucifer: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:12 <BabyBug> that's heavier than me =x
06:12 <Lucifer> fuck you google!
06:12 <Lucifer> not heavier than me
06:12 * Lucifer is 6', 115lbs would be dangerously thin
06:12 <BabyBug> #g 7.5 stone in lbs
06:12 <@armabot> BabyBug: 7.5 stone = 105 pounds
06:13 <BabyBug> i'm 105 lbs!
06:13 <BabyBug> used to be just 7 stone
06:14 <BabyBug> 6' is tall though! O.o
06:15 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/Race/Charriot-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
06:15 <Lucifer> #g 6' in meters
06:16 <@armabot> Lucifer: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
06:16 <Lucifer> fuck you google!
06:16 <Lucifer> #g 6 feet in meters
06:16 <BabyBug> ...
06:16 <BabyBug> lmao
06:16 <@armabot> Lucifer: 6 feet = 1.8288 meters
06:16 <BabyBug> laggy
06:16 <Lucifer> there we go
06:16 * Lucifer already knew it was "about" 2m
06:16 <Lucifer> we have meter sticks at work that are 2m long
06:16 <BabyBug> #g 4ft 11 inches in meters
06:16 <@armabot> BabyBug: 4 ft 11 inches = 1.4986 meters
06:16 <BabyBug> \o/
06:16 <Lucifer> wow, you're only 4'11"?
06:17 <BabyBug> yesh
06:17 <BabyBug> lol
06:18 <BabyBug> that's why i get called a gnome by SOME people *glares at flex*
06:19 <Lucifer> hey, short is hot
06:19 <Lucifer> I could pick you up, and, er
06:19 <Lucifer> you know
06:21 <BabyBug> ;) eye level is the same in lotus aswell...that's sexy =P
06:21 <BabyBug> Although you did just say you could pick up a fat old hairy man pretending to be an internet lesbian and er..you know =P
06:22 <BabyBug> Can we abbreviate that to 'fohmpil' or something? lol
06:25 <Lucifer> I've been considering setting up a replacement in konqueror so I don't ahve to type that out every time
06:25 <Lucifer> *konversation
06:26 <BabyBug> lol
06:26 <BabyBug> gd idea!
06:26 <BabyBug> :P
06:27 <BabyBug> fat old hairy man pretending to be an internet lesbian \o/
06:27 <BabyBug> added it! xD
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06:28 <Lucifer> oh shit, now I have to do it too
06:28 <BabyBug> =P
06:28 <BabyBug> lol
06:29 <Lucifer> fat hairy old man pretending to be an internet lesbian
06:29 <BabyBug> =D
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06:29 <BabyBug> O.o poor agent7
06:30 <Lucifer> well, I got a taker on the other weight bench, so I need to go throw it outside so he can pick it up tomorrow
06:30 <BabyBug> ooo =)
06:30 <Lucifer> now, if I can only get someone to give me weights....
06:32 <BabyBug> sell your body for weights!
06:33 <Lucifer> I'd be willing to do that, heh
06:33 <BabyBug> O.o lol
06:33 * Lucifer wonders if there's someone on craigslist that would make that deal
06:33 <Lucifer> maybe some fat chick?
06:33 <BabyBug> uhh
06:33 <BabyBug> look for a fit chick first! :P
06:34 <BabyBug> (i hate that word) :@
06:34 <Lucifer> why would a fit chick want to exchange weights for sex?
06:34 <BabyBug> she might have a really shit personality so can't get a one night stand in a bar?
06:34 <Lucifer> she either has the weights already, or has a gym membership, and can get all the sex she could want....
06:35 <BabyBug> it's always worth looking!
06:35 <BabyBug> start at the top..work down
06:35 <Lucifer> I'd probably wind up with cops calling me on the idea
06:35 <BabyBug> lol
06:36 <BabyBug> How do people know how to be a prostitute? :s I mean the business side of things...I mean there aint exactly a manual telling you how much you should charge..
06:36 <Lucifer> the only business I know of that has such a manual is the mechanic business
06:37 <Lucifer> you charge what your time is worth to you, I suppose
06:37 <Lucifer> I've seen ads on craigslist that charge by the half hour or the hour
06:37 <Lucifer> so if I were to buy those services and couldn't have an orgasm in half an hour, I'd have to buy an hour
06:37 <Lucifer> but if I were to have an orgasm in 5 minutes, I'd have to pay for the whole half hour
06:37 <Lucifer> not that I'd buy sex, mind you
06:37 <Lucifer> I've got a quality left hand that's very skilled :)
06:37 <BabyBug> hrmm...If you're a prostitute though...Your time can't be worth than much to you.. O.o
06:38 <Lucifer> depends
06:38 <Lucifer> depends a lot on your clientelle, I would imagine
06:38 <Lucifer> if *I* were a prostitute, I would insist on my clients being good lovers
06:38 <BabyBug> lol!
06:38 <Lucifer> I wouldn't sell to just anybody, or maybe I would at first to build up my clientelle, but after getting established...
06:39 <Lucifer> I insist on enjoying my work :)
06:39 <BabyBug> *face palms*
06:39 <BabyBug> what kind of person would wilfully admit they're crap? =P
06:40 <Lucifer> ? I don't think prostitution is automatically immoral or degrading....
06:40 <Lucifer> in fact, I think the legal state of prostitution has more to do with it than anything
06:40 <BabyBug> I mean what kind of person would admit they're they are crap lovers to a prostitute...
06:40 <Lucifer> oh, heh
06:40 <Lucifer> I'd find out experimentally
06:41 <Lucifer> and turn down those who weren't terribly good at it when they hit me up for future work
06:41 <BabyBug> lol
06:41 <Lucifer> after having a well established clientele, I'd find some way to screen new clients
06:41 <Lucifer> maybe make them take a skills test or something
06:41 <BabyBug> screen them? What are you, the secret service of prostitution? lol
06:41 <Lucifer> or I'd get a partner who'd take a lower pay to work with new clients and pass on the good ones to me
06:42 <Lucifer> well, you already have to screen them because it's illegal, eh?
06:42 <Lucifer> but, see, male prostitutes mostly cater to a male clientele, and I'm not really interested in that
06:42 <BabyBug> haha
06:42 <BabyBug> is curb crawling illegal in america?
06:42 <Lucifer> any sort of prostitution is illegal here
06:43 <Lucifer> also, soliciting for prostitution
06:43 <BabyBug> curb crawling is when someone drives around looking for a prostitute
06:43 <Lucifer> so if I see a woman on the side of the road and ask her to sell me a blowjob, and she's a cop...
06:43 <Lucifer> ah, afaik, no, that's not illegal
06:43 <Lucifer> but stopping and talking to a prostitute is
06:43 <BabyBug> O.o
06:43 <BabyBug> What if they're your friend!
06:44 <Lucifer> but prostitution laws vary state to state
06:44 <Lucifer> if she's my friend, then I know she's a cop and wouldn't solicit from her, eh?
06:44 <BabyBug> oh right ok..so asking for sex is illegal..not talking to a prostitute =P
06:44 <Lucifer> if she's not a cop, but there's an undercover cop nearby, I'd have a hard time proving I wasn't soliciting
06:45 <Lucifer> innocent until proven guilty is more of an ideal than a reality here
06:45 <Lucifer> also, I've heard that having sex in a car could get you busted for prostitution
06:45 <BabyBug> O.o
06:45 <Lucifer> but I suspect that's just an urban legend
06:45 <BabyBug> surely must be..lol
06:45 <Lucifer> like, if you were downtown, it might, and if the girl was a known prostitute it might
06:45 <BabyBug> The only thing wrong with that is decent exposure
06:45 <BabyBug> indecent*
06:46 <Lucifer> but if you were out in a suburb, there'd be other laws to nail you with
06:46 <Lucifer> anyway, I need to go throw that weight bench outside, and pee, and stuff
06:46 <BabyBug> "and stuff".... prostitute talk has got you horny hasn't it? ><
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07:12 <Durka> anyone home?
07:13 <Durka> luke-jr?
07:14 <BabyBug> Hey
07:14 * BabyBug pokes Durka with a dead stick
07:15 <Durka> a dead stick? o_O
07:15 <Durka> BabyBug, question:
07:16 <BabyBug> Durka, yes a dead stick
07:16 <Durka> so im in /var/www/test.php for example
07:16 <BabyBug> That's your question answered =)
07:16 <BabyBug> dead sticks are all crusty and horrible
07:16 <Durka> and i want to fopen a file in /opt/somethings/file.txt
07:16 <BabyBug> Alive sticks are cute
07:16 <Durka> how do i do that?
07:16 <BabyBug> fopen('/opt/somethings/file.txt');
07:17 <BabyBug> (you know php right?)
07:17 <BabyBug> or no?
07:17 <Durka> that wont try and open the file in /var/www/opt/somethings/file.txt?
07:17 <Durka> yea i know it
07:17 <Durka> kinda xD
07:17 <BabyBug> No it won't.
07:18 <Durka> haha
07:18 <Durka> ur right
07:18 <Durka> damn i suck
07:18 <Durka> i thought i had tried that o_O
07:18 <Durka> :p
07:19 <Durka> k thnx BabyBug :)
07:19 <BabyBug> yw Durka =)
07:22 <BabyBug> I'm off to bed, night! xx
07:25 <Durka> BabyBug:
07:25 <Durka> u still here?
07:26 <Lucifer> she said she was going to bed, eh?
07:26 <Lucifer> BabyBug: and no, "stuff" wasn't what you were thinking...
07:28 <BabyBug> Durka? lol
07:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, yes it was!#
07:29 <Durka> BabyBug: http://durka.ath.cx/stats
07:29 <Durka> it works :p
07:29 <BabyBug> you can't fool anyone...Everyone knows you were off for some left hand shame
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07:29 <Durka> o fuck that i missed a '
07:29 <BabyBug> speaking of left hand shame.. Hey zmanuel!
07:31 <Durka> ah, there we go
07:31 <Durka> fixed :D
07:31 <BabyBug> =)
07:33 <BabyBug> ooo i need to bug z for a log at some point...i should be nicer =x
07:34 <BabyBug> anywhoo...night!
07:34 <Lucifer> 'night
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09:23 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8873 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: Simplified. Removed some futile retries and rebases.
09:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r39 Simplified. Removed some futile retries and rebases....
09:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8874 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: Re-added history change check.
09:46 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8875 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: Added backup branch logging.
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09:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8876 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/README): (log message trimmed)
09:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Bazaarmagetron
09:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: Automatic merging of commits that would change history order:
09:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------
09:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: revno: 40.1.2
09:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: committer: Bazaarmagetron <z-man@users.sf.net>
09:57 <@armabot> armagetronad: branch nick: bzr-test
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10:44 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r42 Automatic merging of commits that would change history order... || [tools-bzr-trunk-work] Merge test.... || [tools-bzr-trunk-work] Random test change.... || [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r41 Added backup branch logging.... || [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r40 Re-added history change check....
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11:21 <epsy> 98.220.168.6 - - [22/Jan/2009:11:16:27 +0100] "GET http://www.mit.edu/ HTTP/1.1" 200 515
11:28 <P4> hum?
11:37 <epsy> well, how did the end up here?
11:37 <epsy> that
11:37 <epsy> *
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13:06 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8877 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/update.py): Manuel Moos: Added --scm switch that allows less clutter when checking in partial translations.
13:06 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8878 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/deutsch.txt): Manuel Moos: Partial translation :)
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13:22 <zmanuel> Wow
13:23 <zmanuel> this bzr repository feature is extremely neat.
13:23 <zmanuel> incremental cost of having a sty branch around: 200k.
13:23 <zmanuel> (plus the working directory, of course)
13:24 -!- zmanuel is now known as z-man
13:35 <z-man> err. It's lacking management functions, though.
13:35 <z-man> You can't get anything out of the repository again.
13:35 <z-man> So if you accidentally pull a 200M foreign branch, you're stuck with it forever.
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13:50 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r992 Partial translation :)... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r991 Added --scm switch that allows less clutter when checking in...
14:09 <epsy> z-man, bzr pack ?
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15:02 <z-man> epsy: that helps, but it doesn't delete unused revisions.
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15:52 <dBd|Click> guys i got a question pertaining to ubuntu O.o
15:53 <dBd|Click> my tron epic pwns my ubuntu... any suggestions??
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16:08 <z-man> any details?
16:08 <dBd|Click> well, ill be on DD racing II
16:09 <dBd|Click> and as soon as it gets to bomba, the whole video distorts and inverts colors
16:09 <dBd|Click> i have no idea how to fix it :(
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17:45 <epsy> jeez, I just bought a new keyboard for nothing
17:45 <epsy> it has the exact same flaw as this one
17:45 <sinewav> :(
17:45 <ct|kyle> sinewav: how is kubuntu :)
17:46 <epsy> gotta bring it back to the store
17:46 <ct|kyle> epsy: what flaw is that
17:46 <epsy> to probably get another flawed one
17:46 <sinewav> heh, I asked my friend and he suggested the K also. He thhinks I should explore both
17:46 <epsy> ct|kyle, impossible to press fg<space>
17:46 <ct|kyle> LOL
17:46 <epsy> which means I can't strafejump properly ..
17:47 <epsy> which sucks
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17:47 <epsy> the other one I've seen had my arma keys compacted together
17:47 <epsy> gotta change binds then
17:47 <epsy> #date
17:47 <@armabot> epsy: 05:47 PM, January 22, 2009
17:49 <epsy> got 1h30
17:49 <epsy> bbl
17:49 <epsy> seriousely it sucks to be bothered like this for a fucking keyboard..
17:49 <sinewav> I bet.
17:50 <sinewav> But, it is an input device and should be top quality
17:51 <epsy> actually, before buying the kb I use right now, I didn't even know there were keyboards on which you couldnt press these keys
17:51 <sinewav> I didn't know eiither until a few secinds ago!
17:51 <sinewav> seconds*
17:51 <epsy> be warned if you play quake-like games :)
17:52 <sinewav> heh, the only game I've plaed besides arma is descent. Not a fan of fps
17:53 <epsy> most commercial FPS games today suck
17:53 <sinewav> Im sure
17:53 <epsy> they really dont have an arcade feel at all
17:54 <epsy> unlike quake-ish ones (except tremulous, which isnt commecial but w/e)
17:54 <epsy> (except trem and a few others, actually)
17:54 <epsy> now bbl, really
17:55 <sinewav> later
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19:16 <joda_bot> r/help
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19:21 <epsy> and again .....
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19:25 * epsy facepalms
19:26 <ct|kyle> epsy: another bad keyboard?
19:26 <epsy> yup ..
19:26 <epsy> gonna kill someone
19:26 <ct|kyle> epsy: could it be your OS's interpretation of the theymap
19:27 <ct|kyle> keymap*
19:27 <epsy> it happened when I changed keyboards
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19:39 <epsy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_keyboard#Connection_types
19:39 <epsy> now that's great
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19:45 <apparition> can we still talk about pie?
19:47 <Lucifer> of course, it's in the topic, isn't it?
19:47 <Lucifer> bbl
19:50 <ct|kyle> apparition: only pi
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19:54 <ct|kyle> o0 2 apparition_
19:54 <apparition_> hm
19:54 <apparition_> dunno
19:54 <apparition_> anyway, i certainly like pie. banana cream ftw.
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19:55 <ct|kyle> strawberry pie :)
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19:57 <luke-jr> π
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20:02 * sinewav is not really a fan of pie, or cake. Just cookies.
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20:07 <epsy> I tried to change the topic to cake, but chanserv refused
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20:33 <ct|kyle> i think epsy's real problem is he has trouble writing upside down
20:33 <nsh22> lol
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20:41 <luke-jr> nsh22: poke
20:41 <nsh22> luke-jr :: hi
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21:18 <luke-jr> fwiw, 0.2.8 builds in 20 seconds on the VPS I host :þ
21:19 <luke-jr> bbiab
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23:11 <z-man> Will z-man actually get usable info on the invulnerability bug?
23:11 <z-man> Tune in next week for the next exciting episode of "Mud Bugfarm"!
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23:18 <epsy> maybe we'll see it in next ladle
23:19 <epsy> if phpbb could stop marking my own posts as unread..
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23:28 <luke-jr> z-man: that's not a bug
23:29 <luke-jr> that's a cheat I put in last year
23:29 <luke-jr> or maybe 2 or 3 years ago now
23:29 <luke-jr> did someone discover it?
23:29 * z-man prepares to recalibrate is luke-jr humor sensors
23:29 <z-man> That WAS a joke, right?
23:30 <luke-jr> indeed ☺
23:30 <z-man> but there should be a cheat for left-right-brake-left-left-right-right-brake.
23:31 <z-man> Or an instant chat :)
23:31 <epsy> IN SP MODE
23:31 <BabyBug> And MP MODE
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23:31 <epsy> no
23:31 <BabyBug> Yes...But allow them to be disabled server side!
23:31 <BabyBug> (or enabled)
23:32 <BabyBug> Then you can have cheat servers \o/
23:32 <epsy> just like how double binding is disabled "server-side" on n9, right
23:32 <BabyBug> yeh
23:32 <BabyBug> What's your point there?
23:33 <epsy> that your "server-side" .. is meaningless
23:33 <BabyBug> why? :s
23:34 <BabyBug> It technically still stops double binding. People just use macros to press the same key really fast. You could hardly use a macro to set your used rubber to 0 for example...
23:34 <BabyBug> So server-side is not meaningless :)
23:35 <epsy> you could also edit armagetron to ignore the setting
23:35 <epsy> because it's not server-side
23:36 <BabyBug> That's a design error on your part!
23:36 <epsy> didn't do that
23:36 <BabyBug> (or a developers part)
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00:25 <nsh22> hey
00:27 <nsh22> luke-jr : im addin the map_files to the rmaps.txt and the round_console messages to the emessages.txt
00:31 <nsh22> luke-jr : i have one map_file line in the rmaps.txt, should i put the others in as well (also, do i put the settings in as well?)
00:36 <nsh22> hrmm... its not letting me look at the files anymore
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00:39 <luke-jr> nsh22: don't put the MAP_FILE part, jsut the map
00:39 <luke-jr> same w/ messages and ROUND_CONSOLE_etc
00:39 <nsh22> luke-jr:oh the actual xml?
00:40 <nsh22> luke-jr : or just the name?
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00:49 <luke-jr> just the name..
00:50 <nsh22> ok
00:51 <luke-jr> yeah, like that
00:51 <luke-jr> now restart the server to get it running
00:52 <nsh22> ok
00:52 <nsh22> restarted
00:53 <nsh22> luke-jr : so how do i rotate the maps
00:53 <luke-jr> nsh22: just add them to that file
00:53 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8879 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/update.py): Manuel Moos: Less empty line spam with --scm switch.
00:53 <nsh22> ok, just on another line?
00:54 <luke-jr> yep
00:54 <nsh22> ok
00:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8880 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. language/deutsch.txt): Manuel Moos: updated a bit.
00:56 <luke-jr> wtf
00:56 <luke-jr> this guy wants a server from me:
00:56 <nsh22> luke-jr : ok now, can i have different settings for each map withou including them in the map file
00:56 <luke-jr> <this guy> can you fax me photo id and ss card and fill out w2 form
00:56 <nsh22> lol
00:57 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah, but then that's rotating configs, not rotating maops
00:57 <luke-jr> make a rconfig.txt and list config filenames ;p
00:57 <luke-jr> and make the configs obviously
00:57 <nsh22> yay ty
00:58 <nsh22> so make like a map1.cfg and a map2.cfg and put them in the svc/aa folder and then the filenames in rconfig?
00:59 <luke-jr> var dir
00:59 <nsh22> put the cfgs in there?
00:59 <luke-jr> lcuifer: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=716338
00:59 <luke-jr> Lucifer*
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01:08 <nsh22> smoth!
01:08 <nsh22> smooth*
01:13 <nsh22> luke-jr : how do i set up the auth accounts? i see you added that also (ty)
01:18 <smoothice> nsh22: to make a local account
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01:19 <smoothice> That doesn't authenticate against CT forums or arma forums
01:19 <smoothice> use this config
01:19 <nsh22> luke-jr : do i add ifiles to the config folder?
01:20 <smoothice> PinkTomato: It got worse (~250) all of the sudden so I submitted a support ticket and the problem was resolved before I gave them a traceroute which they asked for... so I don't know if they did anything or not but anyways it's fixed
01:22 <PinkTomato> smoothice: :) glad it all worked out :)
01:22 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Yeah
01:23 <nsh22> ummmm
01:23 <smoothice> nsh22: local_user USERNAME PASSWORD
01:23 <nsh22> where do i put a user file
01:23 <smoothice> In the normal config files
01:23 <smoothice> nothing special about it
01:23 <nsh22> there are none
01:23 <nsh22> there is nothing in the config file
01:23 <smoothice> put it where the rest of the config is
01:24 <nsh22> what config, like settings_custom?
01:24 <nsh22> ill wait for liukes help, id rather not screw it up
01:24 <smoothice> nsh22: yes
01:24 <smoothice> nsh22: settings_custom
01:24 <smoothice> nsh22: Wherever else you put SERVER_NAME and stuff
01:25 <nsh22> serve_info?
01:26 <smoothice> oh
01:26 <smoothice> well
01:26 <smoothice> ok
01:26 <smoothice> not where SERVER_NAME is
01:26 <smoothice> put it where the CYCLE_RUBBER settings are
01:26 <nsh22> ok
01:26 <smoothice> nsh22: see the IM conversation for the settings
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01:31 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r994 updated a bit.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r993 Less empty line spam with --scm switch....
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01:45 <nsh22> pink
01:45 <PinkTomato> Hi nsh22
01:46 <nsh22> come to my server, i need to show you it
01:46 <smoothice> PinkTomato: we are having a lot of fun
01:47 <PinkTomato> #lastseen neal
01:47 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Neal~NW seems to be on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing~ right now.
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01:50 <PinkTomato> nsh22: ZThread's aren't compiled in, that's why authentication is not working properly
01:52 <smoothice> #lastseen smoothice~nw
01:52 <@armabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW seems to be on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing~ right now.
01:52 <smoothice> #lastseen kyle
01:52 <@armabot> smoothice: Skyler has last been seen on ServerServer 55 minutes ago.
01:54 <smoothice> #help lastseen
01:54 <@armabot> smoothice: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
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01:56 <noob13> hi
01:56 <smoothice> hi
02:03 <nsh22> #lastseen smooth
02:03 <@armabot> nsh22: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing~ 7 minutes ago.
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02:04 <smoothice> lol
02:04 <nsh22> opinion: racing shootout: good or bad
02:04 <nsh22> s/me is thinking of a script to allow polls
02:05 <smoothice> ;p;
02:05 <smoothice> lol
02:05 <nsh22> smooth, can u come and get rid of that pesky dz?
02:05 <nsh22> im dumb
02:05 <smoothice> lol
02:06 <smoothice> one sec
02:06 <smoothice> but yes
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02:11 <ct|kyle> smoothice: ct_ky13 :P
02:11 <smoothice> #lastseen ct_ky13
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02:11 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
02:12 <smoothice> wrtlprnft's server is
02:12 <smoothice> not working
02:14 <ct|kyle> #lastseen ct_ky13
02:14 <@armabot> ct|kyle: ct¤ky13 has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 6 hours 7 minutes ago.
02:14 <ct|kyle> smoothice: it just does not like you
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02:18 <smoothice> #lastseen ct_kr13
02:18 <smoothice> lol
02:18 <smoothice> #lastseen smoothice
02:18 <smoothice> what the?
02:18 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
02:18 <smoothice> !!!
02:18 <nsh22> that dz is usually where the winzone is :(
02:18 <smoothice> ct|kyle: !!!
02:18 <nsh22> #lastseen smooth
02:18 <@armabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing~ 22 minutes ago.
02:18 <tramshed> any of you have any experience with setting up a flash based video conferencing server?
02:18 <smoothice> *sigh*
02:18 <@armabot> nsh22: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing~ 22 minutes ago.
02:18 <smoothice> tramshed: yes and its cumbersome as heck
02:18 <tramshed> no kiddin
02:18 <smoothice> lol
02:19 <tramshed> I cant find any software that works
02:19 <tramshed> they all fail
02:19 <tramshed> netbeans can die beneath my enormous sack
02:19 <smoothice> haha
02:19 <tramshed> I have red5 working fine
02:19 <smoothice> try Eclispse?
02:19 <tramshed> but I cant get any apps to work on it
02:19 <ct|kyle> lol smoothice
02:19 <tramshed> the app was built with netbeans
02:19 <tramshed> so I had no option
02:19 <smoothice> oh ok
02:19 <tramshed> I dont know enough about flash and java to make something myself
02:19 <tramshed> figured someone would of made one already
02:21 <smoothice> yeah
02:21 <tramshed> its irritating
02:21 <tramshed> because I have came so close so many times
02:21 <tramshed> and every time something java has failed hard
02:23 <nsh22> smooth, did we get global_id working?
02:24 <tramshed> smoothice, so any recommendations on what I should use
02:24 <tramshed> I dont mind having to tweak and prod it into working, as long as it works
02:25 <tramshed> and its free
02:25 <smoothice> tramshed: maybe try something other than flash or java
02:25 <smoothice> nsh22: yes
02:25 <tramshed> I want it to be web based
02:25 <smoothice> #lastseen Master%20Chief
02:25 <tramshed> not all of my users use the same os
02:25 <tramshed> so flash is the lcd
02:25 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
02:26 <ct|kyle> #lastseen Master%20Chief
02:26 <@armabot> ct|kyle: timed out
02:26 <smoothice> see
02:26 <smoothice> broken
02:26 <ct|kyle> #lastseen Master_Chief
02:26 <@armabot> ct|kyle: timed out
02:26 <ct|kyle> #lastseen Master_Chief
02:27 <nsh22> ct|kyle : how would i get global id working so anybody on arma forums can auth?
02:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: timed out
02:27 <tramshed> #lastseen /dev/null
02:27 <@armabot> tramshed: /dev/null has last been seen on Swampland Mud Puddle 39 minutes ago.
02:27 <ct|kyle> nsh22: GLOBAL_ID 1
02:27 <smoothice> #lastseen Master\_Chief
02:27 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 meth
02:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: HASH_METHOD_BLACKLIST: List of hash authentication methods to disable support for.
02:27 <smoothice> :O
02:27 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
02:27 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 md
02:28 <tramshed> #lastseen "Master Chief"
02:28 <@armabot> ct|kyle: MD5_PREFIX: Extra hash prefix for local accounts used to scramble the password || MD5_SUFFIX: Extra hash suffix for local accounts used to scramble the password
02:28 <@armabot> tramshed: Master of God seems to be on |FA| Black Ice! right now.
02:28 <tramshed> erm
02:28 <tramshed> yeah
02:28 <tramshed> fail
02:28 <ct|kyle> nsh22: also use those 2
02:28 <ct|kyle> nsh22: MD5_PREFIX: Extra hash prefix for local accounts used to scramble the password || MD5_SUFFIX: Extra hash suffix for local accounts used to scramble the password
02:28 <ct|kyle> at least i would change them from default
02:35 <nsh22> so i just put in md5_prefix?
02:37 <nsh22> AND HASH METHOD BLACKLIST?
02:37 <nsh22> oops
02:38 <ct|kyle> i guess that is really only for local account
02:39 <ct|kyle> GLOBAL_ID 1 for anyone
02:40 <nsh22> so i dont need to put anything after the two other things?
02:41 <ct|kyle> nsh22: they are not really needed
02:41 <ct|kyle> i thought they were more inportant till i just read what they were fo
02:41 <ct|kyle> for*
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02:44 <nsh22> well i have a local account so do i still need it?
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02:45 <ct|kyle> MD5_PREFIX %arma:
02:45 <ct|kyle> MD5_SUFFIX :aa
02:45 <ct|kyle> nsh22: ^^ defaults
02:46 <ct|kyle> or close to it
02:46 <nsh22> so add those?
02:49 <ct|kyle> or something like it
02:49 <ct|kyle> i'd replace the arma and aa with something else
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03:06 <nsh22> my comp went emo
03:07 <nsh22> anyways.... what did i miss?
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03:10 <nsh22> wb
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03:23 <@armabot> smoothice: Neal~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing Shootout~ 35 minutes ago.
03:23 <smoothice> #lastseen Wall-E
03:23 <@armabot> smoothice: Wall-E has last been seen on internalDrive -=- iD Tech Racing! 56 minutes ago.
03:24 <nsh22> #lastseen smooth
03:24 <@armabot> nsh22: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on internalDrive -=- iD Tech Racing! 57 minutes ago.
03:24 <smoothice> lol
03:24 <nsh22> lol
03:24 <smoothice> #lastseen Zurd~NW
03:24 <@armabot> smoothice: Zurd~Nw has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing Shootout~ 4 minutes ago.
03:25 <nsh22> did u get rid of that zone u put up?
03:25 <smoothice> it doesn't stay through rounds
03:25 <smoothice> only for the round
03:25 <nsh22> its on all of them
03:25 <smoothice> ?
03:25 <smoothice> really?
03:25 <nsh22> yes
03:26 <smoothice> ct|kyle: ^^ ?????
03:26 <ct|kyle> smoothice: update to sty+ct :)
03:26 <smoothice> sty+ct client?
03:26 <ct|kyle> server
03:26 <smoothice> no I'm talking about neals server
03:27 <ct|kyle> let me see
03:27 <ct|kyle> smoothice: ~Night Walker's Central~Racing Shootout~ ?
03:27 <smoothice> yes
03:28 <smoothice> #lastseen Wayri
03:28 <smoothice> #lastseen w3yri
03:28 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
03:28 <nsh22> #server race shootout
03:29 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
03:29 <smoothice> #sd racing shooting
03:29 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “racing shooting” at the moment, sorry.
03:29 <smoothice> #sd Night Walker's shootout
03:29 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “night walker\'s shootout” at the moment, sorry.
03:29 <nsh22> #sd ~Night Walker's Central
03:30 <@armabot> nsh22: ~Night Walker's Central~DF~: Players (5/16): 6§t£p, Bye~NW, ceRoeF, Total Badass, _+PhD=_
03:30 <nsh22> #sd ~Night Walker's Central~racing
03:30 <@armabot> nsh22: ~Night Walker's Central~Racing Shootout~: Players (3/10): ct¤ky13, Fish~NW, SmOoThice~NW
03:30 <nsh22> it hates u smooth
03:30 <smoothice> yepl
03:30 <smoothice> lol
03:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: wb
03:33 <luke-jr> http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:ybrOUSnfCNQJ:master1.armagetronad.net/armagetronad/bzr/branches/0.2.8-armagetronad-sync/config/settings_authentication.cfg+GLOBAL_ID+USER_LEVEL+armagetron&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk
03:33 <nsh22> what is that?
03:33 <luke-jr> #later tell z-man FWIW, I'm harping on Bzr idiots to get copy working ;p
03:33 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
03:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: auth docs
03:34 <smoothice> #later tell luke-jr hi
03:34 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
03:34 <smoothice> !yandere
03:34 <YandereBot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:34 <luke-jr> #later tell smoothice -.-
03:34 <smoothice> lol
03:34 <smoothice> fail
03:34 <@armabot> luke-jr: The operation succeeded.
03:34 <smoothice> lol
03:34 <smoothice> lolzzz
03:34 <nsh22> so its fixed?
03:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: ?
03:35 <luke-jr> !yandere end
03:35 <YandereBot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
03:35 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
03:35 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:35 <smoothice> !yandere part
03:35 <YandereBot> smoothice: I don't recognize that command.
03:35 <smoothice> !yandere help
03:35 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is a variation of the classic Mafia game, also known as Werewolf. A new game is about to start. Type "!join" to join.
03:35 <YandereBot> This is a detective game. It cycles between two phases: During the day, everyone gets together and tries to figure out who they think is a worm, and they can vote to lynch someone. During the night, players with special roles can perform actions that may shed some light.
03:35 <YandereBot> Each night, the worms can pick one player to kill. The object of the game is to find and kill the worms before they kill you. PM conversations between players is allowed at any time, but you MAY NOT copy/paste PM messages into the channel.
03:35 <nsh22> !join
03:35 <YandereBot> nsh22: You don't have permission to do that.
03:35 <smoothice> !join
03:35 <YandereBot> smoothice: You don't have permission to do that.
03:35 <smoothice> !yandere join
03:35 <nsh22> !yandere
03:36 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:36 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
03:36 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:36 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: play
03:36 <luke-jr> tramshed: u too
03:36 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: busy
03:36 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: liar
03:36 <nsh22> luke-jr : so i copy that file into settings_custom?
03:36 <nsh22> hes on my server lol
03:37 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:37 <ct|kyle> making sure the code i just commented does indeed still work :P
03:37 <luke-jr> nsh22: server_info
03:38 <nsh22> ok
03:38 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
03:38 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
03:38 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:38 <nsh22> !join
03:38 <YandereBot> nsh22: You don't have permission to do that.
03:38 <nsh22> !yandere
03:39 <luke-jr> bbiab
03:39 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
03:39 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
03:39 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:39 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:39 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
03:39 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:39 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
03:39 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:39 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:39 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r656 Fix wall bouncing bug
03:40 <nsh22> smooth! join!
03:40 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:41 <smoothice> !yandere join
03:41 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:42 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:42 <smoothice> !yandere extend
03:42 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:43 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:44 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:44 <nsh22> luke-jr : so i have global_id 1 but i still cant login because it says thee is no local user. i want there to be a global user
03:44 <nsh22> !yandere extend
03:44 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:45 <nsh22> damned spyware scan
03:45 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:46 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
03:50 <smoothice> !yandere start theme=twg
03:50 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:51 * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug
03:51 <smoothice> GREAT
03:51 <smoothice> now the baby is crying
03:51 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:51 <nsh22> for the md5 suffixes and prefixes, do i enter something after it?
03:51 <nsh22> !join
03:51 <YandereBot> nsh22: You don't have permission to do that.
03:51 <nsh22> !yandere
03:51 <smoothice> its !yandere join
03:51 <nsh22> !yandere join
03:51 <nsh22> they both join you
03:52 <luke-jr> !yandere start blind -m allow-early-kill
03:52 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
03:59 <ct|kyle> !yandere fail
03:59 <YandereBot> ct|kyle: I don't recognize that command.
03:59 <ct|kyle> exactly
04:00 <nsh22> !yandere start
04:00 <YandereBot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:00 <nsh22> swow it worked
04:01 <madmax> !join
04:01 <YandereBot> madmax: You don't have permission to do that.
04:01 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: #kick YandereBot
04:01 <madmax> aw
04:01 <madmax> !yandere join
04:01 <luke-jr> madmax: !yandere
04:01 <nsh22> type !yandere
04:01 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
04:01 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:01 <luke-jr> !yandere end
04:01 <YandereBot> The yandere game game has been forced to end.
04:01 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
04:01 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:01 <luke-jr> now try
04:01 <luke-jr> :þ
04:01 <luke-jr> nsh22: madmax smoothice
04:01 <madmax> !yandere join
04:01 <nsh22> !yandere
04:01 <madmax> !yandere
04:02 <madmax> !fail
04:02 <luke-jr> now smoothice is gone
04:02 <smoothice> !yandere join
04:02 <luke-jr> or not
04:02 * madmax notes he has no idea how to play this
04:02 <smoothice> lol
04:02 <luke-jr> !yandere help
04:02 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is a variation of the classic Mafia game, also known as Werewolf. A new game is about to start. Type "!join" to join.
04:02 <YandereBot> This is a detective game. It cycles between two phases: During the day, everyone gets together and tries to figure out who they think is a worm, and they can vote to lynch someone. During the night, players with special roles can perform actions that may shed some light.
04:02 <YandereBot> Each night, the worms can pick one player to kill. The object of the game is to find and kill the worms before they kill you. PM conversations between players is allowed at any time, but you MAY NOT copy/paste PM messages into the channel.
04:02 <nsh22> lol
04:02 <YandereBot> Today is KWrite's turn to get used! And she's been planning on this for quite some time now! All the libraries eagerly link, but they're met with a surprise: KWrite is terminated, killed by a CPU bug. She seems to have been the victim of a worm!
04:02 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:02 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:02 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, madmax, nsh22, and smoothice.
04:02 <nsh22> !vote smoothice
04:02 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for smoothice. smoothice: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
04:03 <luke-jr> nsh22: why him?
04:03 <nsh22> dunno
04:03 <luke-jr> …
04:03 <nsh22> random
04:03 <madmax> !vote nsh22
04:03 <YandereBot> madmax has voted for nsh22. smoothice: 1, nsh22: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:03 <luke-jr> if we kill the wrong person now we lose
04:03 <nsh22> lol
04:03 <smoothice> !vote nsh22
04:03 <YandereBot> smoothice has voted for nsh22. smoothice: 1, nsh22: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:03 <madmax> !vote smoothice
04:03 <YandereBot> madmax has switched from nsh22 to vote for smoothice. smoothice: 2, nsh22: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:03 -!- agent7 [n=chatzill@189.169.159.3] has joined #armagetron
04:03 <nsh22> wht if theres a tie?
04:03 <nsh22> what*
04:03 <luke-jr> …
04:04 <madmax> how long does this tipically take?
04:04 <luke-jr> a few minutes
04:04 <luke-jr> !vote nsh22
04:04 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for nsh22. smoothice: 2, nsh22: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
04:04 <YandereBot> Everyone has voted, but there is a tie. Someone will need to switch their vote, or you can type "!next" and force the group to abstain.
04:04 <luke-jr> !yandere next
04:04 <YandereBot> You fail to make a decision. No one is lynched.
04:04 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:04 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:04 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, madmax, nsh22, and smoothice.
04:04 <nsh22> dun dun dun
04:05 * nsh22 likes sound effects
04:05 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
04:05 <YandereBot> luke-jr, who is not a worm, was done in by a loud pop.
04:05 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:05 <YandereBot> Current players: madmax, nsh22, and smoothice.
04:05 <luke-jr> f u
04:05 -!- agent7 [n=chatzill@189.169.159.3] has left #armagetron []
04:05 <nsh22> !vote madmax
04:05 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for madmax. madmax: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:05 <madmax> !vote smoothice
04:05 <YandereBot> madmax has voted for smoothice. madmax: 1, smoothice: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:05 <smoothice> #kick YandereBot
04:06 <nsh22> how bout no
04:06 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
04:06 <madmax> smoothice was going along with the vote on nsh22 previously...
04:06 <nsh22> lol
04:07 <nsh22> !yandere hurry
04:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: you obviously want to vote madmax
04:07 <smoothice> !vote madmax
04:07 <YandereBot> smoothice has voted for madmax. madmax: 2, smoothice: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
04:07 <YandereBot> You lynch madmax, and it turns out madmax was a worm!
04:07 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
04:07 <YandereBot> Firewalls: luke-jr
04:07 <YandereBot> Programs: nsh22
04:07 <nsh22> XD
04:07 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: smoothice
04:07 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
04:07 <smoothice> lol
04:07 <YandereBot> Worms: madmax
04:07 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:08 <smoothice> !yandere joinm
04:08 <YandereBot> smoothice: I don't recognize that command.
04:08 <nsh22> !yandere
04:08 <smoothice> !yandere join
04:08 <madmax> luke-jr: are you supposed to make hints after getting killed?
04:08 <luke-jr> madmax: no
04:08 <madmax> well stfu next time!
04:08 <luke-jr> but he really had no choice
04:08 <luke-jr> and was taking forever
04:08 <madmax> heh
04:08 <luke-jr> madmax: you forced his hand
04:08 <luke-jr> madmax: if you voted nsh22, he could have voted either of you
04:08 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:09 <luke-jr> but since you voted him, the only way he could survive was to vote you
04:09 <luke-jr> madmax: playing?
04:09 <madmax> !yandere join
04:09 <madmax> yeah, good point
04:09 <nsh22> !yandere
04:10 <YandereBot> All the programs go about their business one day and notice that KWrite seems to be missing. After executing for a while, they go to her directory to check on her, and find that she was eliminated by a DVD laser. She seems to have been the victim of a worm!
04:10 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:10 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:10 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, smoothice, and madmax.
04:10 <smoothice> #sd ~Night walker's central~Fortress
04:10 <luke-jr> !abstain
04:10 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
04:10 <@armabot> smoothice: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “~night walker\'s central~fortress” at the moment, sorry.
04:10 <luke-jr> !yandere help roles
04:11 <luke-jr> meh, doesn't work
04:11 <luke-jr> hurry up guys
04:11 <nsh22> !vote luke jr
04:11 <YandereBot> nsh22: I don't recognize that command.
04:11 <nsh22> !vote luke-jr
04:11 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for luke-jr. luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
04:11 <luke-jr> nsh22: are you a worm?
04:11 <smoothice> !vote luke-jr
04:11 <YandereBot> smoothice has voted for luke-jr. luke-jr: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:11 <luke-jr> !unvote
04:11 <YandereBot> luke-jr has switched from abstain to undecided. luke-jr: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:11 <nsh22> tbh no
04:11 <madmax> !vote luke-jr
04:11 <YandereBot> madmax has voted for luke-jr. luke-jr: 3, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:11 <luke-jr> nsh22: then why do you want to lose so badly?
04:11 <nsh22> just cuz
04:11 <luke-jr> you guys suck :/
04:11 <madmax> lol
04:11 <nsh22> its fun to lose aint it
04:12 <luke-jr> 2 of you shouldn't want to vote me
04:12 <nsh22> lol ur giving urself up now
04:12 <luke-jr> !abstain
04:12 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. luke-jr: 3, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 0
04:12 <YandereBot> You lynch luke-jr, and it turns out luke-jr was NOT a worm!
04:12 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:12 <luke-jr> see, you fail
04:12 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:12 <YandereBot> Current players: nsh22, smoothice, and madmax.
04:12 <luke-jr> retards
04:12 <nsh22> ok
04:12 <smoothice> how do I know what role I am
04:12 <nsh22> !vote madmax
04:12 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that nsh22 has any special ability.
04:12 <luke-jr> ………………..
04:12 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
04:12 <YandereBot> smoothice, who is not a worm, has been shutdown by a PEBKAC.
04:12 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
04:12 <nsh22> lightning strikes in the same spot wtice i guess
04:12 <YandereBot> Hackers: nsh22
04:12 <luke-jr> smoothice: that notice you got when the game started
04:12 <YandereBot> Programs: smoothice
04:13 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: luke-jr
04:13 <YandereBot> Worms: madmax
04:13 <luke-jr> omfg we lost with a hacker
04:13 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
04:13 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:13 <luke-jr> last game
04:13 <smoothice> oh
04:13 <nsh22> 1
04:13 <nsh22> 1
04:13 <smoothice> I had my notification program off
04:13 <smoothice> lol
04:13 <smoothice> !yandere join
04:13 <nsh22> !yandere
04:13 <madmax> !yandere join
04:13 <luke-jr> madmax: did you enjoy having such retarded programs?
04:13 <nsh22> last game for me guys
04:13 <madmax> lol
04:13 <nsh22> lol luke
04:13 <madmax> I'm noob at this myself so
04:14 <luke-jr> there's a diff between noob and retarded
04:14 <nsh22> i was hacker and i doubted max would e wom again
04:14 <YandereBot> Today is gedit's turn to get used! And he's been planning on this for quite some time now! All the libraries eagerly link, but they're met with a surprise: gedit has been savagely killed by corrupt memory. This looks like the work of a worm!
04:14 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:14 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:14 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, smoothice, nsh22, and madmax.
04:14 <madmax> wait, what's the hacker supposed to do?
04:14 <luke-jr> hacker can spy once a day
04:14 <luke-jr> and wants the worms gone
04:14 <nsh22> might as well go 3 times lucky
04:14 <nsh22> !vote luke-jr
04:14 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for luke-jr. luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
04:15 <luke-jr> sigh
04:15 <luke-jr> madmax: are you the hacker?
04:15 <nsh22> no offence but 3 times the charm you know
04:15 <madmax> no
04:15 <luke-jr> nsh22: I won't be dying tonight.
04:15 <nsh22> sprobably not
04:16 <nsh22> !vote abstain
04:16 <YandereBot> nsh22: abstain isn't in this game.
04:16 <luke-jr> madmax: what do you claim?
04:16 <madmax> claim?
04:16 <nsh22> how do you switch votes
04:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: !abstain
04:16 <luke-jr> madmax: what do you claim yuo are?
04:16 <madmax> !vote smoothice
04:16 <YandereBot> madmax has voted for smoothice. luke-jr: 1, smoothice: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:16 <nsh22> !abstain
04:16 <YandereBot> nsh22 has switched from luke-jr to vote to abstain. smoothice: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
04:16 <madmax> I'm the scanner of course
04:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: and you?
04:17 <luke-jr> smoothice: and you?
04:17 <madmax> nsh22 look oblivious, he's a program :D
04:17 <nsh22> lol im a program
04:17 <madmax> *looks
04:17 <smoothice> !vote luke-jr
04:17 <YandereBot> smoothice has voted for luke-jr. smoothice: 1, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:17 <luke-jr> smoothice: what do you claim?
04:17 <luke-jr> meh, f u smoothice
04:17 <YandereBot> luke-jr activates and sends SIGKILL to smoothice! smoothice, who is not a worm, is forcefully terminated.
04:17 <nsh22> lol
04:17 <smoothice> screw
04:18 <luke-jr> hm
04:18 <smoothice> lol
04:18 <luke-jr> good thing we didn't lynch him
04:18 <nsh22> !yandere hurry
04:18 <luke-jr> nsh22: in a rush?
04:18 <nsh22> yes
04:18 <madmax> does hurry really do anything?
04:18 <nsh22> i have to go in 1 minutes
04:18 <luke-jr> madmax: if enough peopel do it
04:18 <luke-jr> !vote madmax
04:18 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for madmax. madmax: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:18 <luke-jr> madmax: virus scanner couldn't scan nsh22 yet
04:18 <nsh22> whos undecided
04:19 <luke-jr> madmax is
04:19 <luke-jr> !unvote
04:19 <YandereBot> luke-jr has switched from madmax to undecided. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
04:19 <luke-jr> wait, only a worm would abstain here
04:19 <luke-jr> !vote nsh22
04:19 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for nsh22. nsh22: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:19 <YandereBot> The goal at day time is to determine who you think is a worm and to cast your vote to lynch that loli. Type "!vote <user>" to vote (or to change your previous vote), or type "!abstain" to wait a turn and not lynch anyone. The vote needs a majority to succeed.
04:19 <smoothice> @vote nsh22
04:19 <teabot> smoothice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
04:19 <smoothice> !vote nsh22
04:19 <YandereBot> smoothice: You aren't in this game.
04:19 <smoothice> :(
04:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: I kill -9'd you
04:20 <madmax> !vote nsh22
04:20 <YandereBot> madmax has voted for nsh22. nsh22: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 0
04:20 <YandereBot> You lynch nsh22, and it turns out nsh22 was a worm!
04:20 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
04:20 <nsh22> !vote luke-jr
04:20 <YandereBot> Kill-9s: luke-jr
04:20 <nsh22> wd
04:20 <YandereBot> Radmins: smoothice
04:20 <luke-jr> ☺
04:20 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: madmax
04:20 <luke-jr> night
04:20 <YandereBot> Worms: nsh22
04:20 <YandereBot> nsh22: There's no game here.
04:20 <nsh22> night all
04:20 <madmax> gnight
04:20 <smoothice> kk
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04:39 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I do I use CT auth authority
04:40 <smoothice> ct|kyle: I registered and activated on CT forums
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13:05 <z-man> Hmm, now were to I put a command that should be executed once the network comes up?
13:05 <BabyBug> do*
13:06 <z-man> THANKS, SPELLING NAZI
13:06 <z-man> .
13:06 <BabyBug> Hey...There's americans in the channel, they might not be able to realise there was a typo...
13:07 <z-man> plus, /etc/network/if-up.d :)
13:08 <z-man> Actually, I wanted to write "where to put".
13:10 <z-man> Plus, darn, that directory gets ignored for wireless.
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15:19 * Lucifer yawns
15:21 * wrtlprnft slaps Lucifer
15:21 <wrtlprnft> awake now?
15:21 <epsy> oh no, dont tell me the game bot came here
15:22 <wrtlprnft> violence is sooo easy on irc
15:22 <epsy> BabyBug knows that
15:23 * Lucifer kind of rolls around a bit (not really)
15:23 * ct|kyle pours a bucked of ice on Lucifer
15:23 <ct|kyle> bucket*
15:23 <Lucifer> ack
15:23 <Lucifer> I woke up this morning with hardcore congestion and a runny nose
15:24 <Lucifer> ICE is not good! ;/
15:24 <ct|kyle> that's how i've been all year
15:24 <epsy> didn't know Mr.Quake would also say holy shit when you suicide with the flag near your base :P
15:25 <Lucifer> Mr.Quake?
15:25 <epsy> the announcer guy
15:26 <Lucifer> this isn't arma, is it?
15:26 <epsy> unless someone ported Mr.Quake into arma
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16:06 <epsy> madmax, nice catch :)
16:12 <epsy> grr, just caught a bot going through walls
16:19 <epsy> G5, fixed it, but you're going to have to upgrade
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16:42 <teabot> tstnews: Final challenge board up <http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-challenge-board-up/>
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17:29 <nsh22> hey
17:29 <nsh22> #lastseen neal
17:29 <@armabot> nsh22: Neal~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~DF~ 13 hours 30 minutes ago.
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18:11 <nsh22> back
18:15 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r995 Fixed handling of subdirectories on authorities...
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18:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/Square-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
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19:00 <nsh22> hi pink
19:00 <PinkTomato> hi nsh22
19:03 * nsh22 is wondering why his server is bugging and not letting people die
19:04 <PinkTomato> #lastseen neal
19:04 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Neal~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing Shootout~ 8 minutes ago.
19:04 <PinkTomato> I can't connect to the server.
19:04 * nsh22 found poout it only happens when itry to login
19:04 <nsh22> i restared it
19:05 <nsh22> but im tryin to fix soomething atm
19:05 <PinkTomato> ah right
19:06 <nsh22> ok try now
19:07 <nsh22> its working :D
19:10 <nsh22> oops, iforgot to add a winzone to my new map 0.o
19:10 <PinkTomato> xD
19:10 <Lucifer> grrr
19:10 <Lucifer> can y'all quit /msg'ing me for python questions? there's no reason they can't be answered here...
19:11 <ct|kyle> lol Lucifer :S
19:11 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: there are two modules for python and mysql
19:11 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: BabyBug (hi there!) did it to me the other night, too, heh
19:11 <Lucifer> anyway, I don't remember which one I've used
19:11 <Lucifer> make sure you use the one that actually has a DB2 api
19:11 <Lucifer> I think that's the fancy python acronym for their database api
19:12 <BabyBug> Hey i had good reason to! I didn't want the link posted publically...
19:12 <Lucifer> I chose the one I used based on which one ubuntu had
19:12 <Lucifer> I don't mind links sent privately ;)
19:12 <nsh22> links? i like links
19:12 <BabyBug> ...
19:12 <BabyBug> *slap*
19:12 <BabyBug> Keep dreaming Lucifer! =P
19:12 <Lucifer> well, I've got a not-easy decision now
19:13 <nsh22> c or the longest
19:13 <Lucifer> I was just offered a job that doesn't quite qualify as "good"
19:13 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: between 2 jobs?
19:13 <Lucifer> part-time, $10/hour, but it's programming and customer support
19:13 <nsh22> hrmm
19:13 <PinkTomato> ouch, customer support
19:13 <nsh22> you have to think, what other jobs can you get right now
19:13 <Lucifer> well, I've got an in-person interview on Monday, and then, with luck, will move on to the next stage there
19:13 <ct|kyle> GodTodd_ (hi there) loved that :P
19:13 <PinkTomato> is that help dewsk?
19:13 <PinkTomato> On the telephone :)?
19:13 <Lucifer> no, not help desk
19:13 <nsh22> u already do that lucifer
19:14 <nsh22> u do it here
19:14 <Lucifer> it's basically "write php code, and put it aside when a customer calls for help"
19:14 <PinkTomato> sounds like two jobs.
19:14 <nsh22> aw that sucks
19:14 <Lucifer> he said there won't be many calls, and most of them will be somewhat trivial to handle
19:14 <nsh22> trivial?
19:15 <Lucifer> but at $10/hour, I need to work almost full-time to make ends meet
19:15 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/Spiral-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
19:15 <Lucifer> and, always, at the back of this, if I don't take this job, and there isn't another offer soon....
19:15 <Lucifer> so, hmmmm
19:15 <nsh22> are you still doing the lab assistant?
19:15 <Lucifer> I stalled on a decision until monday, when I have my in-person interview at the other place, but I get the impression that's still preliminary
19:15 <Lucifer> yes, I'm still doing the lab assistant job
19:15 <Lucifer> it's part-time also, and is actually higher pay than the offer I Just got
19:16 <nsh22> hrmmm. that is a tough desicion
19:16 <Lucifer> I won't have to leave this job to work at the other one, I'll have two jobs which, when put together, equal one full-time job
19:16 <nsh22> better than what i have
19:16 <Lucifer> but it could at least get me over the hump, and through this semester and into summer
19:17 <nsh22> ya
19:17 <PinkTomato> are you doing full time study on top of that?
19:17 <Lucifer> it might even carry me all the way until the new campus opens, and I get to stand (hopefully first) in line for a full-time physics job
19:17 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: no, no classes this semester
19:17 <nsh22> could u accept this job and still go to the intervew? then you could see if that other job works out
19:17 <Lucifer> it's not really right to start a job and keep pursuing interviews
19:17 <Lucifer> I can't just go and work for somebody for a week and then quit to take a better job
19:18 <Lucifer> I will if that's how it happens, but I don't want to
19:18 <Lucifer> but I think it's generally expected when you start a job that you put what you've got into it for a few months before looking around again
19:18 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: unless you find you really don't like it at all
19:19 <Lucifer> but this would be just that: a job. Not a career move, not "pursuing a career that I intend to abandon while I'm working on my degree"
19:19 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: in my experience, it takes about 3 months to get over the initial culture shock at a new job
19:19 <Lucifer> so basically, I have pretty much hated every new job I've had for the first 2-3 months
19:19 <Lucifer> so I have to stick it out at least 4 to decide whether or not I like it there ;)
19:20 <Lucifer> I'm a grab a drink and a smoke and think some more about what to do
19:20 * BabyBug rips up all of Lucifer's cigarettes!
19:20 <BabyBug> grrrrrrrr
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19:21 <nsh22> lol @ babybug
19:21 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: he is not as bad as P4 LOL
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19:22 <nsh22> ffs i saved the map as PIRAL instead of SQUARE
19:23 <nsh22> nvm its a more retarded problem
19:24 <nsh22> aaaaaaannnnnnddd.....it froze
19:24 <nsh22> damn
19:24 * ct|kyle wonders how someone can smoke when their lungs and noise are all plugged up already
19:24 <ct|kyle> nsh22: whats the problem
19:25 <nsh22> it fixed itself
19:25 <nsh22> BUT!
19:25 <nsh22> now i have 2000+ ping
19:25 <ct|kyle> luke-jr's server sucks :P
19:26 <nsh22> what is explorer.exe. its taking up 15k of mem
19:26 <z-man> Why don't you kill it and find out?
19:26 <ct|kyle> nsh22: the taskbar
19:27 <nsh22> z-man : lol
19:27 <nsh22> ct|kyle : ty
19:27 <PinkTomato> nsh22: only 15k of RAM?
19:27 <ct|kyle> i've killed it several times :)
19:27 <ct|kyle> also the desktop
19:27 <PinkTomato> replace it with cmd or progman :P
19:27 <nsh22> hmmmm, i wonder what system32.exe does, lets kill it and find out!
19:27 <nsh22> not
19:27 <nsh22> it might just kill my comp
19:28 <nsh22> iexplore is taking up 62k
19:28 <PinkTomato> That's ok my firefox reads 200k
19:28 <nsh22> firefox = fail
19:28 <ct|kyle> you know
19:28 <nsh22> and my ping is back to 52, where it should be
19:28 <PinkTomato> iexplore = fail
19:29 <nsh22> internet = fail
19:29 <ct|kyle> i bet nsh22 has that new bug the 9 million computers have
19:29 <ct|kyle> the one the hogs the net
19:29 <nsh22> which one would that be?
19:30 <PinkTomato> it has been on the news lately, I haven't paid attention to the news
19:30 <nsh22> is this a joke?
19:30 * nsh22 doesnt like jokes atm
19:30 <ct|kyle> nsh22: Downadup, Conficker, or Kido
19:30 <ct|kyle> goes by all those named
19:30 <ct|kyle> names*
19:31 <nsh22> where would i find them, under processes?
19:31 <ct|kyle> i donno i don't use windows
19:31 <nsh22> its a bug or virus?
19:31 <ct|kyle> supposedly a security update fixes it
19:31 <PinkTomato> virus is a catch all term anyway
19:31 <nsh22> it says its a worm...
19:31 <ct|kyle> #google Downadup, Conficker, or Kido
19:32 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.42 seconds: Conficker , Downadup , Kido : A skunk by any other name | Betanews: <http://www.betanews.com/article/Conficker_Downadup_Kido_A_skunk_by_any_other_name/1232565761>; SANS Internet Storm Center; Cooperative Network Security Community ...: <http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=5701&rss>; Beware the Windows worm - Conficker / Downadup / Kido rampant ...: (4 more messages)
19:32 <nsh22> ?
19:32 <ct|kyle> a worm is a type of bug :P
19:33 <epsy> a very special kind of bug
19:33 <epsy> it has no legs
19:34 <PinkTomato> I don't think nsh22 would have it
19:34 <PinkTomato> you need a system 3 months out of date according to that aritcle
19:34 <nsh22> i have an xp
19:34 <nsh22> years out of date
19:35 <PinkTomato> but you have service pack 2 or 3 and automatic updates activated right?
19:35 <nsh22> i unno
19:35 <nsh22> how would i find out?
19:35 <PinkTomato> When you boot, does it say Windows XP or Windows XP Home?
19:36 <nsh22> erm i dunno
19:36 <nsh22> i think just XP
19:36 <madmax> os fingerprint *cough*
19:37 <ct|kyle> that is about when i got that on my mothers computer
19:37 <ct|kyle> 2 or 3 months ago
19:38 <nsh22> kk im getting the patch now
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19:40 <epsy> z-man, heh, doubt score_hole -4 was what you actually meant :P
19:45 <Lucifer> nobody really expected a guy who keeps bitching about Things That Don't Matter to really read for meaning, did you?
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19:45 <nsh22> ok im good
19:45 <nsh22> i have sp3
19:45 <Lucifer> are not
19:45 <nsh22> and automatic update
19:45 <Lucifer> oh shit, there's three SP's now?
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19:45 <nsh22> Lucifer : ur probably right
19:46 <nsh22> Lucifer : for xp yes
19:47 <ct|kyle> nsh22: do you sill have a 2000 ping
19:47 <nsh22> that worm seems very dangerous
19:47 <nsh22> no it evened out after a minute
19:47 <nsh22> it was a mega spike i gguess
19:47 <ct|kyle> other windows computers on your network could have it now also
19:47 <nsh22> i only have the one
19:47 <nsh22> comp tha is
19:47 <ct|kyle> ok
19:47 <nsh22> so i should be safe
19:48 <nsh22> si have automatic updates on so....
19:48 <nsh22> is it pread through the msn links?
19:48 <nsh22> spread*
19:48 <ct|kyle> windows has the first chnage of screwing up your system before others :P
19:48 <ct|kyle> chance*
19:48 <nsh22> meh
19:48 * Lucifer is worm-free
19:48 <nsh22> lies
19:49 <Lucifer> I tell you no lies
19:49 <nsh22> ppl have been sending me these weirfd links on msn, and i just ignore the,
19:49 <nsh22> them*
19:49 <nsh22> i think thats the virus
19:49 <PinkTomato> that's good idea nsh22, it is a virus.
19:49 <Lucifer> I got so used to being able to look at attachments and click on any links, because linux is immune to windows crap
19:50 <Lucifer> then I went to work and did it (years ago), where I was using a windows machine
19:50 <Lucifer> I didn't catch myself in time, the whole network got infected
19:50 <Lucifer> I felt so dumb
19:50 <nsh22> lol
19:50 <ct|kyle> lol i do the same
19:50 <PinkTomato> I fell for the same one
19:50 <nsh22> linux OS's are immune to viruses?
19:50 <PinkTomato> once, where a virus used the same icon as a folder.
19:50 <Lucifer> immune to viruses for windows
19:50 <ct|kyle> no, just about 99% of them
19:51 <nsh22> so linux is more secure>
19:51 <PinkTomato> they aren't immune from sudo rm -Rf / whatever it is
19:51 <Lucifer> someone could write a virus to target linux systems, but since it's used by so few people, AND it's so hard to do real damage, there's no interest in hitting linux systems
19:51 <nsh22> ah
19:51 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: that's a shell command you try to get someone to type
19:52 <nsh22> if you have a partitioned hd, one side wih linux and one side with windows, could the linux side eb affected?
19:52 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: the people that type it are the same people that click viruses in emails.
19:52 <nsh22> haha
19:52 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: negative, because those people all run windows, where sudo isn't a valid command
19:52 <ct|kyle> nad some people that goto SP's phishing site
19:53 <PinkTomato> Lucifer: OK Fair Point :).
19:53 <Lucifer> nsh22: it depends
19:53 <Lucifer> IF your linux partition is readable by windows, then theoretically it could get "infected"
19:54 <Lucifer> but since the virus itself won't run under linux, it can only damage files on the partition
19:54 <nsh22> ah
19:54 <Lucifer> however, most people use filesystems under linux that aren't readable by windows
19:54 <nsh22> ok
19:54 <Lucifer> you would also have to be running windows for the virus to do anything, if you're running linux, your windows partition is as safe as a computer that's not running
19:55 <nsh22> random : where did yanderbot go
19:55 <Lucifer> there was a proof-of-concept virus a few years back that ran in both windows and linux
19:55 <Lucifer> people predicted linux would be targetted a lot more after that
19:55 <Lucifer> but apparently it hasn't happened yet
19:56 <nsh22> still no "market" for linux viruses
19:56 <Lucifer> even when there is a market for linux viruses, I predict they'll never be as bad as they are in the windows world
19:56 <Lucifer> linux is built more securely from the ground up
19:56 <nsh22> any anyways, ppl who use viruses are mostly programmers and could fidnd a way through the virus to get back at the hacker
19:57 <nsh22> wait
19:57 <nsh22> error
19:57 <nsh22> linux_
19:57 <nsh22> WHY CANT I TYPE
19:57 <Lucifer> blame either windows or your mother
19:57 <nsh22> both
19:57 <Lucifer> and no, people who use linux aren't mostly programmers anymore
19:57 <nsh22> well, theres a bunch of them
19:58 <Lucifer> sure, but the stereotype is as outdated as your shoes
19:58 <nsh22> my shoes are new
19:58 <nsh22> ish
19:58 <Lucifer> socks, then
19:58 <Lucifer> dirty laundry, maybe
19:58 <nsh22> ok
19:58 <Lucifer> hmmm, what was that hairstyle somebody said I had?
19:58 <nsh22> u dunno what you look like so i dont know
19:59 <Lucifer> mullet
19:59 <Lucifer> I do know what I look like
19:59 <ct|kyle> people that use linux become programmers :P
19:59 <nsh22> lol u have a mullet?
19:59 <Lucifer> no, I don't have a mullet, and I've never had one
19:59 <nsh22> oh
19:59 <Lucifer> what I had for a little while was a small section of hair at the front that had been cut by my then-4yo
19:59 <Lucifer> while I was sleeping, heh
19:59 <PinkTomato> Do viruses work under wine/
19:59 <PinkTomato> ?
20:00 <Lucifer> PinkTomato: some
20:00 <Lucifer> but they can still never do the kind of damage they could do to a windows system
20:00 <Lucifer> also, because wine has its own executable parser, some user interaction is always required to run the virus
20:01 <PinkTomato> hmmm true :), Like you said, Linux has more secure foundations to the system.
20:04 <PinkTomato> nsh22: does WildWest's new look crash your web browser?
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20:06 <nsh22> PinkTomato : NO
20:06 <nsh22> sry for caps
20:07 <PinkTomato> Ah, A few minor changes would greatly improve its readability too.
20:07 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: old and new one crached mine from time to time
20:07 <nsh22> what would the command be for decelleration after accelleration
20:07 <nsh22> ya it could use some changes
20:07 <nsh22> its hard to read
20:08 <nsh22> they should change itso you can choose which forum to go to
20:08 <ct|kyle> i hate where it says the pages in the topic's
20:08 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: the old one did crash, but the new one makes it crash a lot more often.
20:09 <ct|kyle> for it it's only been once
20:11 <PinkTomato> nsh22: you mean to slow down your cycle after using a brake in negative
20:11 <PinkTomato> #cfg2 CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE
20:11 <@armabot> PinkTomato: CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE: Rate of cycle speed approaching the value of CYCLE_SPEED from above || CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE_OVERRIDE: Block out older clients when CYCLE_SPEED_DECAY_ABOVE differs from its default?
20:12 <nsh22> ty
20:12 <PinkTomato> nsh22: it is that one I believe, until someone comes and corrects me.
20:12 <nsh22> my ping is in the 100's again
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20:15 <nsh22> #cfg2 timer_start_sync
20:15 <@armabot> nsh22: Sorry, no matches :S
20:15 <nsh22> #cfg2 timer
20:15 <@armabot> nsh22: LAG_MAX_SPEEDUP_TIMER: Maximal speed increase of timer while lag is compensated for. || TIMER_SYNC_START_FUDGE: UNDOCUMENTED || TIMER_SYNC_START_FUDGE_STOP: UNDOCUMENTED
20:18 <nsh22> how do i get a timer like on DD racing?
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20:19 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r44 for real now.... || [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r43 using svn-push now....
20:19 <madmax> this is connection fail
20:21 <nsh22> ???
20:22 <nsh22> ping=2000+ again!
20:22 <madmax> z-man: will hoop's patch get included in 0.3 too?
20:23 <z-man> Stop downloading prön
20:23 <nsh22> im not for once
20:23 <z-man> madmax: I think so.
20:23 <nsh22> lol jk
20:23 <nsh22> but im not downloading
20:23 <nsh22> it lagged out
20:23 <z-man> Then stop uploading :)
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20:24 <nsh22> im not loading period
20:24 <nsh22> ok its back down to 55 after i reentered
20:24 <Lucifer> sometimes the internet weather is just bad, and you should go outside instead
20:24 * Lucifer has a terrible headache
20:25 <nsh22> ok it only happens on this one map
20:26 <madmax> what the hell? "bzr: ERROR: Pack 'ceaec3e318c0dfcdcd4560d7e0f5cd46' already exists in <bzrlib.repofmt.pack_repo.RepositoryPackCollection object at 0x213a550>"
20:26 <madmax> -_-
20:26 <nsh22> and especially when i try to ente rthe winzone
20:27 <Lucifer> stop entering the winzone, then
20:27 <nsh22> would it be caused by the win zone being 3/4 outsid of the map?
20:28 <ct|kyle> nsh22: where let me see :P
20:28 <nsh22> #sd racing shootout
20:28 <@armabot> nsh22: ~Night Walker's Central~Racing Shootout~: Players (1/10): Neal~NW
20:28 <nsh22> there
20:29 <ct|kyle> and what is the bug?
20:29 <nsh22> its working fine now....
20:29 <nsh22> it was uber high ping on one map and when i entered the Wz on the one map
20:30 <madmax> z-man: er, sorry, I didn't notice there was a commit of the patch on trunk too :)
20:40 <Lucifer> this is a sucky situation, grrrr
20:40 * Lucifer doesn't want this job
20:43 <BabyBug> Who's working on the utf8 branch?
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20:51 * nsh22 is off to make homemade mac and cheese
20:51 <ct|kyle> yum :)
20:51 <nsh22> how would i change my name on here?
20:52 <nsh22> as in neal_away
20:53 <nsh22> my cat sneezed and scared the shit out of me
20:53 <ct|kyle> nsh22: you don't want to it is annoying
20:53 <nsh22> but i do want to change my name to neal
20:54 <ct|kyle> /nick <name>
20:54 <z-man> BabyBug: me and wrtl.
20:54 <nsh22> anyways i g2g
20:54 <nsh22> im away for anybody who cares
20:54 <BabyBug> z-man, any particular reason why ./configure won't pick up FTGL? =x
20:55 <z-man> Lots.
20:55 <z-man> Older versions don't have a proper way to check them or broken configure scripts.
20:55 <BabyBug> Well i just branched it now...
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20:57 <z-man> I mean older versions of FTGL.
20:57 <BabyBug> Installed: 2.1.3~rc5-2
20:58 <z-man> well, then, what does our configure.log say about it?
20:58 <z-man> I think FTGL still produces broken pkgconfig entries if you install it do /usr/local.
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20:59 <BabyBug> checking for FT_Render_Glyph in -lftgl... no
20:59 <BabyBug> configure: error: You need the library ftgl in at least version 2.1.3~rc5 to compile Armagetron. Read the file doc/install_linux.html.
20:59 <BabyBug> That's in the configure output...
20:59 <BabyBug> FTGL is installed to /usr/include/FTGL/
20:59 <z-man> and the configure.log file?
20:59 <z-man> It contains details on the failure.
21:01 <BabyBug> erm..config.log?
21:01 <BabyBug> configure:14280: g++ -o conftest -O2 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT conftest.cpp -lftgl -lftgl
21:01 <BabyBug> -lGLEW -lGLU -lGL -lSDL_mixer -L/usr/lib -lSDL -lm -lxml2 >&5
21:01 <BabyBug> /usr/bin/ld: /tmp/cc0BgoEs.o: in function main:conftest.cpp(.text+0x12): undefined reference to 'FT_Render_Glyph'
21:01 <BabyBug> That what you mean?
21:01 <z-man> yep
21:02 <z-man> Hmm, output of 'pkg-config ftgl --libs´?
21:02 <BabyBug> -lftgl
21:03 <z-man> Why do we check for a freetype symbol there?
21:03 <BabyBug> I hope that was you just talking out loud to yourself...
21:03 <BabyBug> and not asking me O.o
21:03 <z-man> yeah :)
21:03 <BabyBug> ^^
21:06 <z-man> Ah, we're doing that because all ftgl symbols are C++, and autoconf can't handle that.
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21:13 <z-man> BabyBug: Try changing FT_Render_Glyph to main in configure.ac, then bootstrap and try again.
21:14 <dlh> ftgl has a C interface too. check for ftglRenderGlyph
21:15 <BabyBug> z-man, worked
21:15 <BabyBug> well..configured at least
21:17 <wrtlprnft> z-man: i should be working more on it, but i never get around to doing it. lame excuse, i know
21:18 <z-man> No worries. I say we should just merge it and fix any remaining problems on the trunk itself.
21:19 <wrtlprnft> it's probably more stable and less disputed than other things that have been merged to the trunk
21:19 <wrtlprnft> like the camera code
21:19 <z-man> yeah :)
21:20 <wrtlprnft> or zonesv2, sorta, i think it came a little early, too
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22:01 <nsh22> hey hey
22:02 <nsh22> my mac and cheese smells sooo good .....
22:03 <epsy> you got a computer stuffed with cheese now?
22:03 <nsh22> lol. yes
22:15 <Lackadaisical> what's the instant chat key for LOL! ?
22:15 <nsh22> f4 i beleive
22:15 <nsh22> or shift esc
22:16 <epsy> heh
22:16 <Lackadaisical> thanks
22:16 <nsh22> #sd instant_chat
22:16 <@armabot> nsh22: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “instant_chat” at the moment, sorry.
22:16 <nsh22> wait...
22:16 <nsh22> #cfg2 instant chat
22:16 <nsh22> there we go
22:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Sorry, no matches :S
22:16 <nsh22> #cfg2 instant_chat
22:16 <@armabot> nsh22: Sorry, no matches :S
22:16 <nsh22> #cfg instant_chat
22:17 <@armabot> nsh22: INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_1: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: /team \\) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_10: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: Rubber kills gameplay!) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_11: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: Every time you double bind, God kills a kitten.) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_12: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: (31 more messages)
22:17 <nsh22> #cfg instant_chat_string 14
22:17 <@armabot> nsh22: INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_1: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: /team \\) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_10: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: Rubber kills gameplay!) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_11: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: Every time you double bind, God kills a kitten.) || INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_12: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: (28 more messages)
22:17 <epsy> nsh22, please, use PMs
22:17 <nsh22> ok
22:17 <epsy> actually, what are you looking for?
22:18 <nsh22> ehat the f4 hotkey is default to make sure i was right
22:19 <epsy> #cfg instant_chat_string_1_4
22:19 <@armabot> epsy: INSTANT_CHAT_STRING_1_4: Instant chat available with hotkeys (default: LOL!)
22:19 <nsh22> yay i was right
22:19 <nsh22> ty epsy
22:20 <nsh22> macaroni and cheese time....
22:21 <epsy> and mac
22:31 <nsh22> OMG
22:31 <nsh22> its soooo good
22:32 <madmax> o_O
22:32 <nsh22> i may just JIMP
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22:33 <nsh22> #quote
22:33 <nsh22> #quote #12
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22:34 <Lucifer> #quote get 12
22:34 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #12: "'ebuild blah portage rocks emerge hotplug coldplig - armabot mashuffle'" (added by n54 at 05:44 PM, March 29, 2006)
22:34 <Lucifer> #q
22:34 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #51: "<DrJoeTron> speaking of microsoft, i decided to actually give the zune the time of day and looked at what the hell it really does, and wow, way to take something with alot of potential and just destroy it microsoft <Lucifer_arma> that's what they've always done ... take electric potential and turn it into waste" (added by epsy at 10:40 PM, July 13, 2007)
22:35 <Lucifer> #q
22:35 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #37: "Out of the whole multitude of prudent men in the world, the great majority are so from timidity. --Clausewitz" (added by Lucifer_arma at 12:40 PM, December 09, 2006)
22:35 <Lucifer> #q
22:35 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #1: "Was this compiled by our friend Sum Ting Wong? --WallyWallWhackr" (added by Lucifer_arma at 06:37 AM, March 24, 2006)
22:35 <Lucifer> #q
22:35 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #70: "(20:09:38) luke-jr: StickyNoob: what does that have to do with your dick?" (added by K-Yo at 08:15 PM, February 20, 2008)
22:35 <Lucifer> #q
22:35 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #53: "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:44 PM, August 10, 2007)
22:35 * madmax waits for BabyBug's
22:35 <Lucifer> #q
22:35 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
22:35 <Lucifer> #q
22:35 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #62: "<tronner> armabot: *click* <armabot> tronner: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes." (added by epsy at 11:34 PM, November 16, 2007)
22:35 <Lucifer> #q
22:35 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #59: "-Kick- You have been kicked from channel #armagetron by luke-jr (sorry)." (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:33 AM, September 17, 2007)
22:35 <BabyBug> madmax?
22:35 <Lucifer> #q
22:35 <ct|kyle> #quote get 86
22:35 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #23: "<spidey> you wanna fuck Luke-Jr ?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:40 AM, October 15, 2006)
22:35 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Quote #86: "<luke-jr> I'm still grasping at corks to plug the holes" (added by GodTodd at 07:12 AM, January 07, 2009)
22:36 <Lucifer> #q
22:36 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #53: "I missed a little hole the other day, it was embarassing --/dev/null" (added by Lucifer_arma at 05:44 PM, August 10, 2007)
22:36 <Lucifer> #quote get 87
22:36 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #87: "<BabyBug> the thought of rabbit teeth near my clit is in no way sexy" (added by Lucifer_arma at 04:58 AM, January 18, 2009)
22:36 <Lucifer> which one's hers?
22:36 <Lucifer> ah, there it is
22:38 <ct|kyle> that is waht i was looking for :P
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22:41 <Neal-NW> back
22:42 <Neal-NW> how would i export mysqls?
22:42 -!- Neal-NW is now known as nsh22
22:44 <epsy> sudo exportmysqls
22:44 <nsh22> no, from a website
22:44 <nsh22> and im on windowsbtw
22:45 <epsy> well, you gotta grab everything
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22:49 <nsh22> what u mean "grab everything"?
22:50 <epsy> do you have any DB management tool?
22:51 <nsh22> erm no
22:51 <nsh22> just the phpbb3 admin
22:51 <nsh22> its a gayass free host
22:51 <epsy> you only have phpbb installed?
22:52 <nsh22> well, my host does it for me, you see, thats all they host is phpbb forums
22:52 <nsh22> and nothing else
22:52 <nsh22> i have no acces to the configs
22:56 <epsy> so you only have to save phpbb stuff?
22:58 <nsh22> no i want to export the mysqls from one phpbb to another soi dont have to make my users reregisterand repost everything
23:01 <Lackadaisical> isn't there an option to do that somewhere inside the admin panel?
23:02 <nsh22> theres a backup, but it does fuckall as ive found out
23:02 <Lackadaisical> there definatly was one in phpbb2, i suppose they didn't took it out in phpbb3
23:03 <nsh22> it makes a gz backup, but it doesnt include the mysqls i don tthink cuz when loaded a previous backup, it did nothing
23:06 <madmax> it's not 'mysqls' nsh22, it's a 'mysql database'
23:06 <epsy> so saving phpbb stuff..
23:06 <epsy> maintenance -> export
23:07 <nsh22> but that doesnt do anything for users or posts
23:07 <nsh22> it didnteven put the style back up
23:07 <epsy> ??
23:07 <epsy> did you click "select all ?"
23:07 <nsh22> yes
23:08 <nsh22> i have the backup of another site....
23:08 <epsy> did you reinstall the themes?
23:08 <nsh22> i restored it on this one
23:08 <nsh22> and it did nothing
23:08 <epsy> not even users or anything?
23:08 <nsh22> nope
23:08 <epsy> we've used that some times and it worked fine
23:09 <nsh22> haha now the ppl im with now want money to give me the databases
23:09 <nsh22> im trying it now
23:09 <epsy> what does the [uncompressed] file look like?
23:09 <nsh22> i dunno
23:10 <epsy> ...
23:10 <nsh22> i dot have the program to uncompress it
23:10 <epsy> windows? mac?
23:10 <nsh22> i have a awindows
23:10 <epsy> 7zip
23:13 <nsh22> wow, the ppl im with now doesnt even have the restores or the backup function
23:16 <nsh22> this is the name of the backup: backup_1229796993_b832f3eb4186bbdf.sql
23:17 <nsh22> so it is a sql....
23:20 <nsh22> and it doesnt work...
23:21 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8882 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: using svn-push now.
23:22 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8883 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: for real now.
23:22 <epsy> [00:09] <epsy>: what does the [uncompressed] file look like?
23:22 <epsy> how doesnt it work?
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23:23 <nsh22> it doesnt work because it is in the /store folde of the site where the backups are. i restored the backups and nothing changed
23:23 <BabyBug> #n9
23:23 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (4/16): F!paperclip, N9::MreDD, vans, Zhzash
23:23 <BabyBug> madmax!
23:23 <epsy> restored using the restore utility, right?
23:23 <nsh22> yes
23:23 <epsy> [00:22] <epsy>: [00:09] <epsy>: what does the [uncompressed] file look like?
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23:24 <nsh22> when opened? its very confusinbg, it looks like stuff from mysql tables
23:24 <epsy> paste the very first lines
23:28 <nsh22> does that help?
23:29 <epsy> is there a "phpbb_users" somewhere in there
23:30 <nsh22> # Table: phpbb_user_group
23:30 <nsh22> # Table: phpbb_users
23:30 <nsh22> there it is
23:30 <epsy> yeah
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23:30 <epsy> check if you got your users in there
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23:49 <TaZ_> epsy, I said euro server for the TST!
23:51 <epsy> stfu
23:54 <epsy> 20:24 <TaZ> Me and Killer are going to sign up for an American Sever. I will screenshot
23:54 <epsy> http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/armalogs/log-2009-01-06.txt
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23:58 <nsh22> anybody know a lot about phpbb3?
23:58 <nsh22> specifically restores
23:59 * epsy knows that he intends to leave phpbb
23:59 <nsh22> you are?
Log from 2009-01-24:
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00:00 <epsy> I am?
00:01 <wrtlprnft> who in the whole wide world came up with the idea of translating “lightcycle” to „lichtrenner“?
00:01 <epsy> :D
00:01 <epsy> maybe someone from the whole wide world wide web
00:01 <wrtlprnft> grml, never even think about partially watching any kind of translation of anything english into german
00:01 <wrtlprnft> no, that's what they call it in the german version of tron
00:01 <BabyBug> opposed to just the world wide web eh epsy?
00:02 <epsy> BabyBug, exactly
00:02 <epsy> wrtlprnft, translating english into german is pretty much a non-sense :P
00:02 <nsh22> question: anybody know about mysql?
00:03 <BabyBug> sort of...not..but do
00:03 <epsy> nighty
00:03 <BabyBug> night
00:03 <nsh22> ok well i am restoring some files into a db
00:03 <nsh22> night
00:03 <Flex> just ask away nsh22.. no need to ask to ask
00:03 <epsy> (DBs does not store files)
00:03 <nsh22> and it says 162 queries were completed, but nothing actually happens
00:04 <epsy> are you sure it's not happening in another DB ?
00:04 <nsh22> i have a .sql backup im useing for the files
00:04 <epsy> a DATABASE is NOT a collection of files
00:05 <nsh22> INFORMATION THEN
00:05 <epsy> Tables.
00:05 <Flex> is your forum config file using the same prefix of the database
00:05 <BabyBug> But a database can be a file! ^^
00:06 <epsy> yes but a database is not a collection of files, which does not mean not being a file
00:06 <TaZ_> lol epsy jk
00:06 <epsy> an archive is a collection of files, for example
00:06 <BabyBug> (that's why i said but, it was just a random statement, not a contradiction!)
00:06 <Flex> basically, i mean is the prefix set correctly
00:06 <epsy> anyway, night
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00:07 <nsh22> ok there is only one db with two different prefixxes, phpbb_ and pp3_
00:07 <nsh22> well, theres 2 dbs, informatin_schema and phpbb
00:07 <Flex> which one is the one with your forum database stored in
00:07 <nsh22> neal_pp31
00:07 <nsh22> (the phpbb folder)
00:07 <Flex> $table_prefix = 'neal_pp31';
00:08 <Flex> or just pp31
00:08 <nsh22> where do i type that?
00:08 <Flex> it's in the config.php file in main dir
00:08 <Flex> neal_pp31 or just _pp31
00:08 <nsh22> wait....
00:09 <nsh22> ill show you a line from the backup
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01:43 <smoothice> #lastseen Puffyfluff
01:43 <smoothice> #lastseen smoothice~nw
01:44 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
01:44 <smoothice> #lastseen smoothice~nw
01:44 <@armabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 35 minutes ago.
01:44 <@armabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on Chico's Brake Boost Styball 35 minutes ago.
02:04 <ivantis2> bwaaaah!
02:05 <ivantis2> has anyone here played animal crossing? that was my immitation of a gyroid
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02:25 <PinkTomato> #ping
02:25 <@armabot> pong
02:34 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I got lighttpd working with vhosts
02:34 <PinkTomato> :), it's easy right?
02:35 <smoothice> easier than ever
02:35 <PinkTomato> :D, what is it like on apache?
02:36 <PinkTomato> never done it on apache.
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02:39 <smoothice> PinkTomato: not that hard
02:39 <smoothice> PinkTomato: easier in some ways than lighttpd
02:39 <PinkTomato> i see :)
02:39 <smoothice> depends on the server config
02:40 <smoothice> I might try to port sty to 0.3
02:40 <smoothice> That's right everybody! Sty patch on 0.3!
02:40 <smoothice> Lucifer: Tell me it's impossible but I beg to differ!
02:46 <PinkTomato> zones are different on 0.3
02:46 <PinkTomato> smoothice: what features do you need in 0.3 that aren't in 0.2.8 :)?
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02:54 <smoothice> PinkTomato: 0.3 is the future of armagetronad
02:54 <smoothice> PinkTomato: A fun project too...
02:54 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Who cares if zones are different? If zones are different then so care sty zones be
02:54 <smoothice> can*
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03:14 <PinkTomato> smoothice-away: the compiler cares that the zone's are different ;).
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04:40 <Lucifer> smoothice: I never said it wasn't possible to add the sty functionality to the trunk
04:40 <Lucifer> I only said the patch couldn't be ported
04:40 <Lucifer> what's more, I can just about guarantee that if you find a way to just port it without working it into the new zone design, we won't accept it ;)
04:40 <Lucifer> at least, I won't
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05:01 <ct|kyle> it looked pretty easy to just port it in there
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05:25 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: maybe it is easy to just "port" it in there. I read that as "hack it in with no significant thought to design", however
05:26 <Lucifer> people keep asking us to include it in the mainline, and we'd love to. I'd really hate to see it just hacked in there, and have us in the position where we still can't accept it
05:26 <Lucifer> so, if it's easy to do that in a way that'll make us happy (i.e. design it into the new zone model), then I'm ready to stand corrected
05:28 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: Ya i may look into it sometime, now that i finally got a bug fixed that has prevenrted me from creating a new script, I've got to work on that
05:29 <ct|kyle> i'll finally be able to upgrade our 2 year old CTWF binary :P
05:35 <smoothice> ct|kyle: http://www.grabup.com/uploads/aa181b5aa9da2c4e65a1f0f3337a21db.png?direct
05:36 <sinewav> haha
05:36 <ct|kyle> heh
05:37 <ct|kyle> after i rewrite the CTWF script and ladder
05:37 <smoothice> ct|kyle: fine... gimme sh*t about it but when we succeed you'll be dead from shock of success
05:37 <ct|kyle> it won't be that hard
05:37 <smoothice> yeah
05:38 <ct|kyle> i already took a quick glance at gWinZone.*
05:38 <smoothice> ct|kyle: join our team
05:38 <smoothice> ct|kyle: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-sty-0.3
05:40 <ct|kyle> ivantis o0
05:40 <smoothice> he proved himself by making a branch
05:41 <smoothice> I trust him
05:41 <smoothice> And I need your help too
05:41 <smoothice> come on kyle.. think of all the fun times!
05:41 <smoothice> Compiling together!
05:41 <ct|kyle> i am pending approval
05:41 <smoothice> bugging out together!
05:41 <smoothice> k
05:42 <smoothice> Approved
05:43 <ct|kyle> now once i get the New CTWF done I'll be ready to code
05:43 <smoothice> sweet!
05:43 <smoothice> I'm getting another friend to help us too
05:53 <sinewav> wow, it looks like 0.3 will actually get finished before summer, right?
05:54 <smoothice> It is finished...
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06:03 * sinewav can't stop listening to The Who. But why?
06:05 <smoothice> Horton hears the who?
06:06 <sinewav> we should all hear the who.
06:07 <ct|kyle> who hasent hear the who
06:08 <smoothice> I haven't seen horton hears a who
06:08 <smoothice> I don't like movies
06:08 <smoothice> that much
06:10 <sinewav> neither do I. I see, like, 3 movies a year maybe.
06:10 <smoothice> yeah
06:10 <smoothice> me too
06:10 <smoothice> I saw Wall-E on opening day though lol
06:11 <sinewav> I just saw it the other day. It was good, but not as good as people said methinks.
06:11 <smoothice> yeah
06:11 <smoothice> I felt the same way
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06:48 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3-armagetronad-sty] r796 Updated minor_version with -sty for this project
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10:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8884 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (. synctools/sync.sh): Bazaarmagetron: Back to regular push. Can't install a bzr-svn version supporting --merged.
10:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8885 /tools/bzr/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Bazaarmagetron: Moved AA config files out of the way.
10:55 <@armabot> armacommits: [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r46 Moved AA config files out of the way.... || [tools-bzr-trunk-work] r45 Back to regular push. Can't install a bzr-svn version suppor...
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13:55 <epsy> z-man, K-Yo, PinkTomato, G5, guru3: do I need to tell you your TST staff GIDs again?
13:56 <PinkTomato> epsy: I'm just going to login as @forums ^^.
13:56 <G5> If it is the same as last time, no.
13:56 <epsy> PinkTomato, that wont work on all servers
13:56 <epsy> G5, it is
13:57 <PinkTomato> epsy: true, but I couldn't get it working last time.
13:57 <G5> epsy: But login still doesnt work (on my server)
13:57 <epsy> oh right, the space issue
13:57 <epsy> G5, did you upgrade arma?
13:57 <G5> yeah, r990
13:57 <K-Yo> epsy, K-Yo@ct
13:58 <K-Yo> epsy, I mean, yes :P
13:58 * epsy cant believe everyone remembered them
13:58 <K-Yo> epsy, not me :)
13:58 <epsy> G5, latest is r995
13:59 <G5> hmmm ... was it 2 days ago?
13:59 <epsy> epsy
13:59 <epsy> 2009-01-23 16:18:13
13:59 <K-Yo> epsy, you want a backup server? tell me if we should dl the latest rev
13:59 <epsy> K-Yo, if you dont it wont work so ..
14:00 <K-Yo> epsy, oh?
14:00 <K-Yo> what's last?
14:00 <epsy> [14:59] <epsy>: G5, latest is r995
14:00 <epsy> r996 soon :<
14:00 <G5> so I build it now or later?
14:00 <K-Yo> epsy, can u give me the GID again please :)
14:00 <PinkTomato> is it <<name>>@tst.armagetron.co.uk/staff/forums ?
14:00 <epsy> lol
14:01 <epsy> PinkTomato, yup
14:01 <PinkTomato> I get 404. :)
14:01 <K-Yo> cool
14:02 <epsy> PinkTomato, outdated server then
14:02 <epsy> works here
14:02 <PinkTomato> epsy: we are using 2008 settings ?
14:02 <K-Yo> #ls epsy
14:03 <PinkTomato> I tried that in G5, admin said it was r990
14:03 <@armabot> K-Yo: timed out
14:03 <epsy> yeah, it handles non-short authority's subdirectories wrongly
14:03 <G5> Im upgrading to r995 now
14:03 <epsy> @ls -g epsy@x
14:03 <K-Yo> .si -v CT's
14:03 <epsy> @ls -g epsy@x/member
14:03 <K-Yo> #si -v CT's
14:03 <@armabot> K-Yo: TST 2008.11 - CT's (78.46.226.237:4539) running 0.2.8_alpha20081130 unix dedicated, url: http://armagetronad.net, Description: “TST beta2 Settings“, Players (1/8): cT¤K-Yo
14:03 <K-Yo> is that latest?
14:04 <K-Yo> no
14:04 <K-Yo> hmmm
14:04 <K-Yo> still the login works
14:04 <epsy> http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/news/final-rules-and-settings/
14:04 <K-Yo> i'll update the binary
14:07 <PinkTomato> epsy: Semi Final 1 and 2 will run at the same time?
14:07 <epsy> no
14:07 <epsy> most probably not, at least
14:08 <PinkTomato> Ah,
14:08 <PinkTomato> Oh, I see how the timing works now
14:08 <PinkTomato> :)
14:08 <G5> k, my TST server is back online, r995 now. Login looks fine to me
14:09 <epsy> Quarters part 2 and semis part 1 happen at the same time.
14:09 <PinkTomato> I see :), missed that bit
14:09 <G5> I hate it a little to be kicked from my own server for "spamming"?
14:09 <epsy> I agree..
14:10 <K-Yo> oh? 996 now?
14:11 <K-Yo> epsy, btw, why does "/login blah" or "/logout" "/help" etc count in the spam? it doesn't annoy other players
14:11 <epsy> G5, can't commit that right now
14:11 <epsy> /help doesnt count as spam
14:12 <K-Yo> and /login mynameisveryverylong@myauthorityisveryverylongtoo makes you get silenced fast :P
14:12 <K-Yo> good for /help :)
14:12 <epsy> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18670&highlight=spam
14:12 <G5> K-Yo: yeah. that it is why I got kicked, I guess
14:12 <BabyBug> I did nothing!
14:12 <BabyBug> =x
14:13 <PinkTomato> epsy: tst.etc.etc likes my name with a space but not my password.
14:13 * epsy considers adding emmy as from crazy-tronners.com
14:13 <epsy> PinkTomato, what does it say?
14:13 <G5> epsy: my server is r995 now. if it needs to be r996 I'll have to do that tomorrow
14:14 <epsy> G5, doesnt need
14:14 <PinkTomato> PASSWORD_FAIL.
14:14 <MrBougo> LIFE_FAIL
14:15 <epsy> PinkTomato, PASSWORD_FAIL alone or PASSWORD_FAIL You're not a staffer! ?
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14:16 <K-Yo> hi emphasis
14:16 <PinkTomato> PASSWORD_FAIL on its own
14:16 <epsy> PinkTomato, client version?
14:16 <PinkTomato> 0.3.1_alpha2
14:16 <epsy> strange
14:16 <K-Yo> caps lock?
14:16 <K-Yo> :p
14:17 <epsy> heh
14:17 <PinkTomato> xD, that error does suggest the problem exists between the keyboard and chair
14:17 <epsy> beware, it's just a suggestion
14:18 <PinkTomato> OK, I copy pasted my password, works at @forums and not at tst
14:19 <epsy> what server are you in?
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14:19 <PinkTomato> G5's
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14:22 <K-Yo> ah and PinkTomato G5 epsy, maybe increase the SPAM_MAXLEN on the servers? 80 is kinda short when u have stuff to say :P
14:24 <MrBougo> oh oh, there's some DDoS planned tomorrow
14:24 <MrBougo> http://pastebin.ca/raw/1312915
14:24 <MrBougo> fun :p
14:24 <PinkTomato> MrBougo: The church Louis Therox Interviewed?
14:25 <MrBougo> um I'm not sure who that is
14:25 <epsy> PinkTomato, can we check on ¦×¦'s?
14:25 <PinkTomato> OK epsy :)
14:25 <PinkTomato> MrBougo: British Interviewer, that does different stuff than usual.
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14:27 <PinkTomato> epsy: cannot find
14:27 <PinkTomato> in master list
14:27 <epsy> you should find it at the end
14:28 * epsy forgot to tell arma to interpret × as x
14:28 <epsy> actually it's at T
14:28 <PinkTomato> But the ? is a ?
14:29 <epsy> ?
14:29 <PinkTomato> No wait, that is supposed to be a | pipe :)
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14:30 <epsy> where would you put ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server ?
14:30 <epsy> with other servers starting with a broken pipe?
14:30 <epsy> I'd sort it along other servers starting with x
14:30 <PinkTomato> Just after servers with a pipe
14:30 <PinkTomato> Oh, I see ignore the pipe?
14:30 <epsy> and pretty much every special char out there
14:31 <epsy> you may have noticed wild west servers are no more listed on top
14:31 <PinkTomato> Ignore special characters sounds better
14:33 <epsy> yeah, if we didn't do that it would have soon turned into a "who gote the most spaces" competition
14:34 <PinkTomato> Had already started :)
14:34 <epsy> for now there were only 1 space at most
14:35 <PinkTomato> I need to remove the leading space off mine, I accidentally put it there.
14:35 <epsy> lamer ;)
14:36 <K-Yo> epsy, by the way, why is it still "2008.11" ?
14:37 <epsy> where?
14:37 <K-Yo> on the "final settings"
14:37 <epsy> because it did not change
14:37 <K-Yo> :)
14:37 <K-Yo> shouldn't it?
14:38 <K-Yo> the server name
14:38 <epsy> of course, server name should change
14:39 <epsy> but thats not in config
14:39 <epsy> PinkTomato, I've got close to no idea what's happening
14:39 <epsy> give me a second
14:39 <K-Yo> 2009.02 ?
14:40 <PinkTomato> OK epsy :).
14:40 <epsy> K-Yo, .01
14:40 <epsy> unless 25th of jan is in february
14:41 <K-Yo> epsy, thx
14:41 <K-Yo> oh, it's tomorrow?
14:41 <K-Yo> :P
14:41 <K-Yo> I though ladle was tomorrow
14:42 <K-Yo> :p
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14:43 <epsy> PinkTomato, right, do it
14:44 <epsy> query=check&method=md5&user=Pink\ufeffTomatoes&hash=e20431f6c8862801fa54d7ed3fd00b5c&salt=09c86e73a7cfd797f120de3c4c3303f2
14:44 <epsy> Sent request: query=check&method=md5&user=Pink Tomatoes&hash=654ac6df6eea2e32bd4986077ca7102b&salt=b1f7ee5064e71c522228ee965fe98c95
14:44 <epsy> Got reply: PASSWORD_FAIL
14:44 <epsy> \_ user not found
14:45 <epsy> \ same
14:45 <epsy> ok
14:47 <PinkTomato> Oops, the ifeff
14:47 <PinkTomato> that was never going to work
14:48 <PinkTomato> Hmm.
14:48 <PinkTomato> Is that a POST, GET, or something else entirely?
14:51 <epsy> can you try again?
14:51 <PinkTomato> 200, but its coming up way quicket
14:56 * P4 is noting hash=e20431f6c8862801fa54d7ed3fd00b5c salt=09c86e73a7cfd797f120de3c4c3303f2 :)
14:56 <PinkTomato> hehe, I may change my password later ;)
14:57 <P4> you should :þ
15:01 <PinkTomato> epsy: what was it :)?
15:01 <epsy> it should have been sent as Pink+Tomato
15:02 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8886 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nAuthentication.cpp): epsy: forgot to remove this little helper
15:02 <PinkTomato> ah I see :)
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15:04 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r996 forgot to remove this little helper...
15:15 <epsy> is that spam? http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202603#202603
15:16 <ct|kyle> epsy: yes and no LOL
15:17 <K-Yo> epsy, nah, just simple-minded guy :P
15:19 <epsy> isn't he just advertising his www ?
15:19 <PinkTomato> Their WWW is very bare.
15:24 <epsy> http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=258;sa=showPosts
15:25 * K-Yo isn't registered there :P
15:25 <epsy> and it doesnt let you look at it?
15:27 <K-Yo> nope
15:27 <K-Yo> registration form
15:27 <epsy> stupid SMF
15:27 <K-Yo> Only registered members are allowed to access this section.
15:27 <K-Yo> Please login below or register an account with Armagetron.co.uk Forums.
15:27 <epsy> forum software goddamn suck >.<
15:28 <PinkTomato> At least the captcha is readable
15:28 <epsy> you should even have to register lol..
15:29 <epsy> http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,722.msg6622.html#msg6622
15:29 <epsy> really sounds like he got patches already
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15:30 <PinkTomato> Wait, I stand corrected, it is just wasting my time
15:30 <epsy> PinkTomato, exact
15:30 <PinkTomato> what is the point of having a captcha if the answer is always MNDRR
15:30 <epsy> lol!
15:30 <K-Yo> lol
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15:31 <epsy> what /me hates with http://armagetron.co.uk/forum/ is that on one single page there's 500 animated GIFs
15:32 <K-Yo> LOL! you can't even see the staff list without being registered
15:32 <epsy> [16:27] <epsy>: forum software goddamn suck >.<
15:32 <PinkTomato> yay! I get an XML file saying my password is correct when I log in...
15:33 <K-Yo> epsy, you made tst site with wordpress right?
15:33 * PinkTomato is happy for firefox esc animation stop
15:33 <epsy> K-Yo, yes
15:33 * epsy too
15:33 <K-Yo> what do you think we should use for the global site? wordpress? drupal? another one?
15:34 <K-Yo> (I mean the stuff for matches, tourneys etc)
15:34 <K-Yo> joomla?
15:34 <PinkTomato> wasn't Lucifer making something?
15:35 <K-Yo> hmmm
15:35 <K-Yo> I can't tell
15:35 <K-Yo> luzifer maybe started some graphics
15:35 <K-Yo> and someone started some script to lend servers (you PinkTomato ?)
15:35 <PinkTomato> tourney.davefancella.com
15:36 <PinkTomato> K-Yo: I did :), it's very hacky though
15:36 <epsy> er, you talk about match organisation stuff?
15:36 <epsy> that's not what I would call a global thing :)
15:36 <K-Yo> yeah
15:36 <K-Yo> well, you know, me and words...
15:36 <epsy> well, Lucifer said he probably wouldnt be going to finish it
15:37 <K-Yo> still, it's a start
15:37 <epsy> and I'd use in-house stuff
15:37 <epsy> for that
15:37 <K-Yo> that's what I was thinking
15:37 <K-Yo> because we don't need all the stuff CMS provide
15:37 <K-Yo> like no need for forums for e.g.
15:37 <epsy> well, maybe some stuff from wordpress, like $wpdb
15:37 <K-Yo> what is that?
15:37 <K-Yo> the database class?
15:38 <epsy> yes
15:38 <K-Yo> we could create our own, inspired from wp's
15:38 <K-Yo> and others
15:38 <epsy> or I'd even not use PHP
15:38 <K-Yo> that will answer exactly to our needs
15:38 <K-Yo> what then?
15:38 <K-Yo> we'll need a scripting language
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15:38 <K-Yo> -ing
15:39 <epsy> idk, but switching off from apache will result in less headaches for URLs
15:39 <K-Yo> hmmm
15:39 <K-Yo> I don't understand the problem
15:39 <epsy> mod_rewrite is a pain to use
15:40 <epsy> loading matches all the time are going to be a terrible hassle for the server and DB
15:41 <K-Yo> we can keep ugly URLs
15:41 <epsy> no
15:41 <K-Yo> why?
15:41 <epsy> sucks
15:41 <K-Yo> well...
15:41 <epsy> and dont tell me it's at least something
15:42 <epsy> look at all the forum software out there?
15:42 <K-Yo> it's at least something...
15:42 <K-Yo> :p
15:42 <K-Yo> then we'll have our arses injured
15:42 <K-Yo> and use mod_rewrite
15:42 <K-Yo> ;)
15:42 <K-Yo> it can't be perfect at once
15:42 <K-Yo> it's made little by little
15:42 <epsy> your arse is injured when you have a headache?
15:43 <epsy> what about the overheat issue?
15:43 <K-Yo> it'll be a pain in the ass
15:43 <K-Yo> the overheat?
15:43 <K-Yo> cool it :)
15:43 <epsy> with water?
15:43 <K-Yo> with whatever
15:43 <PinkTomato> isn't mod_rewrite something you use after you have something?
15:43 <K-Yo> freeze particles
15:44 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, that's what I thought
15:44 <K-Yo> like: 1st u create a website with ugly URLs
15:44 <epsy> and a time machine to make requests answered faster?
15:44 <K-Yo> 2/ once it works, you make it look cool
15:44 <K-Yo> a time machine can even answer your requests before you made them!
15:45 <epsy> oh yeah, negative pings!
15:45 <PinkTomato> but you have to remember to make them still, otherwise you'll create a paradox.
15:45 <K-Yo> woot
15:45 <K-Yo> PinkTomato, true
15:45 <K-Yo> and paradox leads to chaos
15:46 <epsy> no, seriousely it is better to use a simple webserver (like lighthttpd or w/e) so that stuff doesnt need to be loaded at each query
15:47 <epsy> do you realize the amout of data that can show up on a player's profile?
15:47 <PinkTomato> matches lost, matches won, teams I am in, upcoming matches, matches that need teams to play in.
15:50 <epsy> so that's basically 5 queries
15:50 <epsy> actually, more
15:51 <epsy> (like individual queries for each match, etc)
15:51 <PinkTomato> It gets more complicated as well, as a match may be part of a tournament
15:52 * epsy wouldn't consider parsing php code, passing queries each time a page is loaded possible
15:53 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: could you change the location of the round rotation in 0.3.* to after the grid is deleted. With some big settings changed on config_rotation it forces players to loose points after a winner is declared
16:20 <K-Yo> epsy, is it a knows bug that /teams doesn't show all teams on sumo?
16:20 <epsy> like, it doesnt show teams where there's only one player and which isn't locked?
16:22 <K-Yo> hmm
16:22 <K-Yo> yeah
16:23 <K-Yo> I guess it's a yes :
16:23 <K-Yo> P
16:24 <epsy> actually, I hate that thing
16:26 <K-Yo> the bug?
16:27 <epsy> well it's indeed a bug; that's confusing you and me
16:27 <epsy> ideally, /teams would be obsoleted by a decent scoreboard
16:27 <epsy> bbl
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16:39 <Concord> http://www.flickr.com/photos/34688967@N07/
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16:44 <PinkTomato> Concord: ?
16:44 <PinkTomato> Concord: Hey that's 3D right?
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16:53 <smoothice> PinkTomato: https://code.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-sty-0.3/armagetronad/0.3-armagetronad-sty
16:53 <PinkTomato> smoothice: I saw that this morning :)
16:54 <PinkTomato> I don't think it'll be easy ;)
16:54 <smoothice> kyle says it will be
16:54 <z-man> :0
16:55 <smoothice> great now you all hate me
16:55 <PinkTomato> You need to get zones v2 in it too.
16:55 <K-Yo> smoothice, I think kyle is working on merging trunk and sty+ct
16:55 <smoothice> Yeah
16:55 <z-man> well, we bumped gWinZone.* to mostly match 0.2.8 again.
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16:55 <PinkTomato> smoothice: I didn't say that.
16:56 <smoothice> lol
16:56 <z-man> So technically, just to get stuff working, you could just merge the code into there and be done, ignore zones 2.0.
16:56 <smoothice> But isn't zonesv2 the future of armagetronad...?
16:56 <smoothice> just like armathenication
16:56 <z-man> We don't know :)
16:56 <smoothice> oh :/
16:56 <smoothice> PinkTomato: http://www.grabup.com/uploads/0c21c007560b0730429f8aa4127b42b7.png?direct
16:57 <PinkTomato> smoothice: nice, hehe :)
16:57 <z-man> Problem is, philippe vanished, and I don't think anyone else knows how the stuff actually works.
16:57 <smoothice> PinkTomato: a teaser :P lol
16:57 <smoothice> z-man: oh
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16:57 <z-man> At some point, we're just going to look at it and decide what to do.
16:57 <smoothice> alright
16:58 <PinkTomato> not looking at the code, is sty quite hacky?
16:58 <smoothice> well the problem is that if sty is ported under v1 to the trunk and then all of the sudden you accept the new zones then that puts the new branch in jeopardy
16:59 <z-man> Well, for as long as we support 0.2.8, there's going to be the v1 code in the trunk and clients will understand the network messages.
16:59 <smoothice> So it depends on how long you support 0.2.8....
16:59 <z-man> Sure, porting stuff over to zones v2 may be better in the long run, but if v2 get discarded, you worked for naught.
17:00 <smoothice> I figured at first zones v2 was a for sure since it was implemented in the trunk....
17:01 <z-man> No :) Our policy was "just implement all new stuff in the trunk" back then.
17:01 <smoothice> *sigh* lol
17:01 <z-man> Now it's "goddammit, stop breaking the trunk and build experimental stuff in a branch".
17:02 <smoothice> So we could make two branches... 0.3-armagetronad-sty-v1 and 0.3-armagetronad-sty-v2 ?
17:02 <PinkTomato> smoothice: zonesv2 worked for us?
17:02 <smoothice> PinkTomato: yes
17:02 <smoothice> PinkTomato: those weird maps were v2
17:02 <z-man> come on, python, build!
17:02 <smoothice> So we could make two branches... 0.3-armagetronad-sty-v1 and 0.3-armagetronad-sty-v2?
17:02 <smoothice> To attempt both?
17:03 <z-man> I'd just do v1 and port stuff over to v2 in the same branch.
17:03 <z-man> But v2, even if we keep it, is certainly going to see lots of changes.
17:03 <smoothice> alright
17:04 <z-man> And at least I'm not going to pay attention on how badly the changes merge with any hack branches :)
17:04 <smoothice> yeah... of course
17:05 <z-man> Of course, we should look at how much of the stuff we can integrate.
17:05 <z-man> There's definitely good stuff on ct+sty.
17:05 <smoothice> So I could actually attempt to start by applying the sty patch directly to the trunk?
17:06 <z-man> Yeah. But of course not as it was distributed by pig.
17:06 <z-man> make a diff of the ct+sty branch and 0.2.8 and apply that.
17:06 <smoothice> ct+sty or sty?
17:07 <z-man> Your project, your choice.
17:07 <smoothice> heh ok
17:07 <K-Yo> when was last sty update?
17:07 <K-Yo> and who updates it?
17:07 <z-man> a while back, and whoever feels like it :)
17:07 <z-man> I can make an update now.
17:07 <K-Yo> :)
17:08 <K-Yo> I mean, who started working on it?
17:08 <smoothice> z-man: thanks
17:08 <K-Yo> the aa dev team?
17:08 <K-Yo> or independant guys
17:08 <smoothice> aa dev
17:08 <K-Yo> ok
17:08 <K-Yo> thx
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17:10 <z-man> sty is basically our demo hack branch.
17:11 <z-man> Should be updated now, I haven't tested whether it still compiles and runs, though.
17:11 <smoothice> Ok I'll test that
17:11 <smoothice> wait so diff between 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty and trunk?
17:12 <z-man> no. fetch 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
17:13 <z-man> fetch the last revision of 0.2.8 merged into it
17:13 <z-man> diff the two
17:13 <z-man> apply patch to trunk.
17:13 <smoothice> oh...
17:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty] r887 Merging from mainline....
17:13 <smoothice> so indirectly sucking sty out of 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty :P
17:14 <z-man> right :) And getting a version that is up to date with current 0.2.8.
17:14 <smoothice> ok
17:14 <Concord> z-man hows the ladle team coming ;)
17:14 <z-man> You tell me.
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17:15 <Concord> well the team I'm on is going well, hows the developer team coming along?
17:16 <Concord> nvm. sorry to interrupt :)
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17:40 <smoothice> z-man: I just hit epic fail
17:41 <z-man> As long as you didn't push the result :)
17:41 <smoothice> z-man: I didn't lol
17:41 <smoothice> 1 out of 2 hunks failed
17:41 <smoothice> 3 out of 13 hunks failed
17:41 <smoothice> 2 out of 8 hunks failed
17:41 <z-man> that's normal. got that, too.
17:41 <z-man> you now need to look at the .rej files and apply the changes manually.
17:42 <smoothice> ok
17:42 <z-man> Most of them are trivial things that you can throw away (changes to the GPL header)
17:42 <smoothice> Oooh
17:42 <smoothice> I see that
17:42 <smoothice> so then I just delete the .rej file?
17:42 <z-man> most of the rest are code additions where you just have to find a new place for them because the surroundings changed a bit
17:43 <z-man> yes, .rej files with changes you either applied or ignored can be deleted.
17:43 <smoothice> and what about the .orig
17:43 <z-man> you can delete that, too.
17:43 <smoothice> ok
17:43 <z-man> If need be, you can refetch it from the trunk.
17:44 <smoothice> ok
17:44 <smoothice> well the gWinZone.cpp.rej file contains the whole sty patch practically
17:44 <smoothice> lol
17:44 <z-man> really?
17:44 <smoothice> all 3783 lines of it
17:45 <z-man> I only have 2 of 21 failed hunks.
17:45 <smoothice> :/
17:46 <z-man> Sure you're applying it to a recent version of trunk?
17:46 <z-man> Oh, are you using sty or ct+sty?
17:46 <smoothice> sty
17:47 <z-man> Odd.
17:48 <smoothice> I made a .patch file of only the changes in the "src" folder
17:48 <smoothice> does it matter that I did it that way?
17:49 <dlh> checking for FreeType -- version >= 9.0.3... no
17:49 <dlh> $ freetype-config --version
17:49 <dlh> 9.19.3
17:49 <dlh> grr...
17:49 <z-man> well, not if you copy the added config files and maps manually.
17:50 <smoothice> ok
17:50 <z-man> dlh: it eludes me why autotools doesn't ship with a general purpose, working, version comparison macro.
17:50 <smoothice> z-man: http://rafb.net/p/oLf0Da92.html
17:51 <z-man> Only 13 hunks?
17:51 <z-man> Oh wait, how did you do your diff?
17:51 * z-man did 'bzr diff -r 873.1.123 > ../../sty.patch' in the sty branch
17:52 <smoothice> diff -Naur 0.2.8/src 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/src > sty.patch
17:52 <z-man> where the odd revision was the last one merged from 0.2.8.
17:52 <smoothice> huh? I'm confused...
17:52 <smoothice> how does a a diff with rev 873 give you the sty patch...
17:53 <ivantis2> magic
17:53 <z-man> not 873.
17:53 <z-man> 873.1.123 :)
17:53 <smoothice> ????
17:53 <z-man> it's the ID of the precise last state of 0.2.8.
17:53 <z-man> bzr keeps very good track of what gets merged.
17:53 <z-man> You can reconstruct it any time.
17:54 <smoothice> but isn't 873.1.123 the 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty branch?
17:54 <smoothice> which has always had the sty patch applied
17:54 <z-man> yes, and no.
17:54 <smoothice> ???
17:54 <G5> epsy: Some TST servers have 16, some have 32 slots. How come? I thought it is the same config for all servers ...
17:55 <z-man> 873.1.123 is the revno of the revision 996 on 0.2.8.
17:55 <smoothice> ohhhhh
17:55 <smoothice> where do you get the revno...
17:55 <z-man> they're precisely the same on both branches, without the sty patch applied.
17:55 <z-man> it's in 'bzr log'.
17:56 <z-man> you can also use revids, they don't change from merges. Get them with 'bzr log --show-ids'.
17:56 <z-man> They're rather long, though :)
17:56 <smoothice> oh well
17:56 <smoothice> bzr diff -r 873.1.123 > ../../sty.patch
17:56 <smoothice> I do that in what directory?
17:56 <z-man> in your sty branch.
17:57 <z-man> main directory.
17:57 <smoothice> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty?
17:57 <z-man> yes. and adapt ../../ to your needs, of course.
17:57 <smoothice> ok
17:57 <smoothice> What ideally should the ../../ end up to being?
17:58 <smoothice> end up being*...
17:58 <z-man> It's just where your patch is going to get stored.
17:58 <smoothice> ok
17:59 <ivantis2> bwaaaah!
17:59 <smoothice> ?
17:59 <ivantis2> again, gyroid
17:59 <ivantis2> imitation
17:59 <ivantis2> more specifically, a freakoid
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18:04 <smoothice> z-man: now I only have 59 lines in gWinZone.cpp.rej
18:04 <z-man> goody :)
18:04 <smoothice> so now I add the rest of the stuff at the bottom of gWinZone.cpp?
18:05 <smoothice> z-man: I have kind've a strange reject file.... http://rafb.net/p/QMCdKN40.html
18:06 <z-man> Yes, that's how it's supposed to look.
18:06 <z-man> The - are lines that were removed, and the + are lines that were added.
18:06 <z-man> If a line was changed, it gets both a - and a +.
18:07 <smoothice> so what stuff do I need to add to gWinzone.cpp
18:07 <z-man> You now have to work out the change and apply it manually.
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18:07 <smoothice> the lines with the + but not a - ?
18:07 <z-man> Let's take a look at the first hunk:
18:07 <z-man> - gDeathZoneHack::gDeathZoneHack( eGrid * grid, const eCoord & pos )
18:07 <z-man> - :gZone( grid, pos )
18:07 <z-man> + gDeathZoneHack::gDeathZoneHack( eGrid * grid, const eCoord & pos, bool dynamicCreation )
18:07 <z-man> + :gZone( grid, pos, dynamicCreation )
18:07 <z-man> that means that the parameter 'dynamicCreation' was added to the constructor arguments.
18:08 <z-man> Now, why did it fail?
18:08 <smoothice> ummm
18:08 <smoothice> It looks right..
18:09 <z-man> Yes :) There was just a random indentation change on trunk.
18:09 <z-man> the :gZone constructor moved a space.
18:09 <smoothice> oh..
18:09 <z-man> So you just copy the new version over.
18:10 <smoothice> aren't those two sections you just pasted here from two different hunks?
18:10 <smoothice> divided by a // *************
18:10 <z-man> no, each hunk gets listed as two sections.
18:10 <z-man> One for stuff removed, the other for stuff added.
18:10 <z-man> It's in a different format than a raw .patch, oddly.
18:10 <smoothice> oh ok
18:11 <z-man> Ah, also: color_.r changed to color_.r_ on the trunk, and so on for g and b. That's why patch stumbles there, too.
18:12 <z-man> Nothing to worry about.
18:12 <smoothice> so don't copy that over?
18:12 <smoothice> or leave it
18:12 <z-man> you have to leave it as color_.r_.
18:13 <smoothice> ok so don't modify any of the color_ lines in trunk
18:13 <z-man> yes.
18:13 <smoothice> k
18:15 <smoothice> z-man: ok I think I got the gDeathZoneHack thing patched... now there's the second hunk
18:15 <smoothice> z-man: it says like 775?
18:16 <smoothice> line*
18:16 <epsy> G5, it's not defined in the settings
18:16 <z-man> yes. Look in that general area.
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18:16 <smoothice> z-man: ok
18:16 <z-man> But rather look for the surrounding text, the exact line number has likely changed.
18:16 <epsy> [17:58] <PinkTomato>: not looking at the code, is sty quite hacky?
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18:16 <smoothice> z-man: ok
18:17 <epsy> PinkTomato, have you seen any game which shows flags as a group of rotating squares?
18:18 <smoothice> z-man: I attempt to search for this in gWinZone.cpp
18:18 <smoothice> lastSync_ = -10;
18:18 <smoothice> teamDistance_ = 0;
18:18 <smoothice> lastEnemyContact_ = se_GameTime();
18:18 <smoothice> z-man: but get nothing
18:18 <z-man> just look for lastEnemyContact_
18:18 <z-man> it gets initialized twice.
18:18 <smoothice> ok
18:18 <z-man> err, not twice: in two places.
18:19 <smoothice> z-man: then in this hunk: http://rafb.net/p/HMxbpX26.html
18:20 <smoothice> z-man: it puts lastRespawnRemindWaiting_ = 0; in twice?
18:20 <z-man> That's indeed odd.
18:20 <smoothice> so
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18:20 <smoothice> leave it out in one place?
18:20 <z-man> Once is enough.
18:20 <smoothice> I guess
18:20 <smoothice> k
18:21 <smoothice> I guess I'm done with gWinZone then
18:21 <z-man> I'd say so.
18:21 <smoothice> cool
18:21 <smoothice> I'm going to local commit to.... keep track of things
18:21 <smoothice> oooh no
18:21 <z-man> Welcome to Merge Hell, by the way :)
18:21 <smoothice> great thanks
18:22 <epsy> haha
18:23 <smoothice> what a warm welcome
18:23 <G5> epsy: Ok
18:23 <PinkTomato> epsy: PinkTomato, have you seen any game which shows flags as a group of rotating squares? , point taken :)
18:24 <epsy> PinkTomato, muahaha :)
18:28 <smoothice> z-man: I've got a line in gCycle.cpp.rej that looks like this
18:28 <smoothice> z-man: tDESTROY(spark);
18:28 <smoothice> z-man: no + or -
18:28 <smoothice> z-man: but I cannot find it in gCycle
18:29 <epsy> [19:21] <z-man>: Welcome to Merge Hell
18:29 <smoothice> epsy: ...
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18:29 <smoothice> epsy: it's better than I thought
18:30 <smoothice> z-man: so I guess I just don't worry abut it since it was neither + nor minused
18:30 <epsy> smoothice, you gotta have to see how it was done, with that line
18:30 <smoothice> epsy: ???
18:31 <epsy> you mean in the patch?
18:31 <smoothice> epsy: yes
18:31 <epsy> lines that dont have a plus or a minus are context
18:31 <ivantis2> ivantis2++
18:31 <smoothice> epsy: yeah
18:31 <ivantis2> ivantis2--
18:31 <smoothice> epsy: but the context in the patch isn't in the file it self
18:32 <epsy> ivantis2, check what we're talking about before spilling out crap
18:32 <epsy> smoothice, here comes the merge hell part
18:32 <ivantis2> huh?
18:32 <epsy> smoothice, so you gotta have to check where that exists
18:32 <smoothice> epsy: so I just leave it alone then?
18:32 <smoothice> epsy: I searched the entire file with no instance of tDESTROY
18:32 <epsy> I mean, earlier
18:32 <epsy> at another revision
18:32 <smoothice> I
18:32 <smoothice> l'll just leave it
18:33 <smoothice> out
18:33 <smoothice> ok
18:33 <smoothice> done
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18:34 <ivantis2> i had a good idea for another project: JArmagetron Advanced
18:34 <smoothice> ...
18:34 <smoothice> yes we all propose new projects randomly
18:34 <ivantis2> i want arma for my phone
18:35 <ivantis2> which only supports java
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18:35 <epsy> ivantis2, patches welcome
18:35 <ivantis2> theres already a tron clone in 2D, why not an actually good one in 3D?
18:36 <epsy> repeat: ivantis2: patches welcome
18:36 <ivantis2> dude, i fail at java
18:36 <smoothice> then don't propose it
18:36 <ivantis2> just as an idea for some better coders...
18:38 <PinkTomato> Java has too many implementations
18:38 <PinkTomato> Getting it to work on your phone won't make it work on another
18:38 <ivantis2> oh it wont?
18:38 <ivantis2> wel actually i knew that
18:39 <ivantis2> but, i have a G1
18:39 <ivantis2> come on, no one here likes android?
18:39 <ivantis2> lame
18:39 <epsy> YES WE ARE ALL FUCKING LAME
18:39 <epsy> TOO LAME FOR YOU
18:39 <PinkTomato> Mobile Internet costs a fortune
18:39 <epsy> and is slow
18:40 <PinkTomato> and most significantly laggy
18:41 <epsy> ==slow
18:42 <PinkTomato> You can have a slow connection and a tiny ping :)
18:42 <PinkTomato> it's just rare.
18:42 <smoothice> z-man: I'm getting myself confused...
18:43 <smoothice> COMPILING 0.3-STY!!!!
18:43 <z-man> cool, newest bzr-svn supports tags now.
18:44 <PinkTomato> smoothice: yay!
18:44 <PinkTomato> Now
18:44 <PinkTomato> watch out of Segmentation faults :)
18:44 <smoothice> f*ck
18:44 <smoothice> hell in action
18:44 <PinkTomato> what does that mean in english?
18:44 <smoothice> Error Count: 7
18:45 <smoothice> Error Count: 7
18:45 <smoothice> Error Count: 22
18:45 <smoothice> 40
18:45 <smoothice> 130
18:45 <PinkTomato> ^_^ Programming is fun.
18:45 <smoothice> Failed at 5 warnings and 130 errors
18:46 <PinkTomato> don't forget that when you fix an error, you either reduce them dramatically
18:46 <PinkTomato> or end up finding another
18:46 <smoothice> Recompiling about include fix
18:46 <smoothice> Error Count: 125
18:46 <smoothice> failed at 125
18:47 <smoothice> wow this is hell
18:47 <smoothice> Build failed (125 errors, 2 warnings)
18:47 <smoothice> :(
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18:48 <smoothice> z-man: Build failed (125 errors, 2 warnings)
18:48 <PinkTomato> pastebin! :)
18:50 <smoothice> PinkTomato, z-man: http://rafb.net/p/CA9eqL44.html
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18:51 <z-man> You forgot to merge an include directive in ePlayer.cpp.
18:52 <z-man> And probably a whole block of definitions in gWinZone.h.
18:52 <z-man> err, declarations.
18:52 <smoothice> oh...
18:52 <smoothice> k
18:53 <z-man> ah,and you need to adapt lots of color_.r to color.r_ and stuff.
18:54 <z-man> gParser.cpp is your problem, I' m afraid. it was refactored quite a bit, stuff got pulled out to tParser (or something).
18:57 <smoothice> so then...
18:57 <smoothice> how do I Fix that...
19:00 <smoothice> z-man: recompiled with 68 error all relating to Color
19:01 <z-man> just append the underscores.
19:01 <smoothice> for each error?
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19:02 <smoothice> gZone & GetColor (gRealColor & color) {color = color_; return *this;} //!< Gets the current color
19:02 <smoothice> gWinZone.h:82: error: no match for 'operator=' in 'color = ((gZone*)this)->gZone::color_'
19:03 <smoothice> most errors look like that
19:04 <smoothice> which has no evident underscore error thin
19:04 <smoothice> g
19:06 <smoothice> z-man: easy fix? :/
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19:24 <luke-jr> :/
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19:26 <smoothice> luke-jr: http://www.grabup.com/uploads/0c21c007560b0730429f8aa4127b42b7.png?direct
19:28 <smoothice> zmanuel: can you help again lol? :)
19:28 <zmanuel> sorry, laptop froze.
19:28 <smoothice> oh ok
19:29 <luke-jr> smoothice: you don't mean literal port, do you?
19:29 <zmanuel> You pushed your branch up?
19:29 <smoothice> luke-jr: no a smoothice-style port
19:29 <smoothice> zmanuel: just the trunk
19:29 <smoothice> zmanuel: No sty code is in it at all
19:29 <luke-jr> smoothice: a compatible rewrite, I hope?
19:29 <smoothice> luke-jr: yes
19:29 <luke-jr> nice
19:30 <luke-jr> I'll join, but I don't know how much time I can put into it
19:30 <smoothice> luke-jr: cool
19:30 <smoothice> zmanuel: http://rafb.net/p/53JlH879.html
19:30 <luke-jr> smoothice: set yer locations :þ
19:31 <zmanuel> Change gRealColor to tColor? Dunno.
19:32 <smoothice> /! tColor extended by a function to apply the color directly
19:32 <smoothice> struct rColor: public tColor
19:33 <zmanuel> then gRealColor -> rColor.
19:33 <zmanuel> Is gRealColor even defined still?
19:34 <luke-jr> smoothice: omfg you let ivantis2 join?
19:34 <smoothice> luke-jr: is that bad?
19:34 <luke-jr> smoothice: no idea☺
19:34 <smoothice> zmanuel: http://www.grabup.com/uploads/96d8d77fdcd81c52a7571296173bef9d.png?direct
19:37 <zmanuel> WTF?
19:38 <smoothice> rColor.h?
19:38 <zmanuel> that picture spammed my whole screen.
19:38 <smoothice> ????????????????
19:38 <zmanuel> yeah, that's rColor, but what about gRealColor?
19:39 <smoothice> I don't see a gRealColor.cpp
19:40 <zmanuel> it's in gCycle*, IIRC.
19:40 <smoothice> oops oh ok
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19:41 <smoothice> zmanuel: all I see in gCycle.h is gRealColor color_;
19:41 <smoothice> gRealColor trailColor_;
19:41 <zmanuel> well, grep for it?
19:42 * zmanuel has to prepare dinner now to avoid TST collision
19:42 <smoothice> ok
19:42 <epsy> is is tomorrow Oo
19:42 <zmanuel> it is?
19:42 <epsy> or are you preparing tomorrow's dinner already?
19:42 <zmanuel> I was wondering, but the page says 24th.
19:42 <epsy> had always been sundays
19:42 <zmanuel> that's no reason :)
19:44 <smoothice> zmanuel: well I found gRealColor in a couple of places but I don't know what you what me to find...
19:44 <zmanuel> The definition of it.
19:44 <epsy> arghh
19:45 <ivantis2> luke-jr, duh let ivantis2 join! i rule
19:45 <epsy> @calc 60*60*24
19:45 <teabot> epsy: 60 * 60 * 24 = 86,400
19:46 <smoothice> zmanuel: I guess I cannot really find the definition for it
19:46 <smoothice> zmanuel: Except this
19:46 <smoothice> struct gRealColor {
19:46 <smoothice> REAL r,g,b;
19:46 <smoothice> gRealColor():r(1), g(1), b(1){}
19:46 <smoothice> };
19:46 <zmanuel> Yep, that's it :)
19:46 <ivantis2> @calc ((5/9)*(80-32))
19:46 <teabot> ivantis2: (5 / 9) * (80 - 32) = 26.6666667
19:46 <smoothice> zmanuel: oooh cool so do I need to modify it?
19:46 <zmanuel> Well, change all occurences of gRealColor that make problems to rColor then.
19:46 <smoothice> ij
19:46 <smoothice> ok*
19:47 <epsy> grmpf, it looks like the server's showing timestamps for the wrong timezone
19:47 <epsy> while it did correctly for some time now
19:47 <ivantis2> dammit! it still does not work! im working on a converter for my phone, ((5/9)*(80-32)) == 0.0???
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19:48 <ivantis2> (fahrenheit to celsius)
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19:52 <epsy> Happy Belated Birthday! 101 years old on the 01 Jan .
19:52 <epsy> The Management
19:52 <epsy> Close Window
19:52 <smoothice> zmanuel: now I'm back up to 122 after changing all instances of gRealColor to rColor and including rColor where necessary
19:53 <smoothice> zmanuel: 122 errors :?
19:53 <smoothice> :/
19:53 <zmanuel> I didn't say you should change ALL occurences.
19:53 <smoothice> zmanuel: but they were all causing problems....
19:54 <zmanuel> Well, ok, then you need to make a couple more .r -> .r_ replacements.
19:59 <luke-jr> zmanuel: new auth methods should be writ in branch of trunk, not 0.2.8, correct?
19:59 <luke-jr> in particular, I'm pondering OpenID in Arma
19:59 <zmanuel> trunk, definitely. And sure, OpenID sounds like a good idea.
19:59 <zmanuel> Although it is more designed for bloggers.
19:59 <smoothice> zmanuel: I don't think I'm skilled enough to do this
20:00 <zmanuel> You got quite far for a first attempt :)
20:00 <smoothice> I think I screwed all of my work up :(
20:01 <zmanuel> Didn't you make copies?
20:01 <luke-jr> zmanuel: LP uses/provides openID
20:01 <smoothice> zmanuel: I forgot to
20:01 <smoothice> zmanuel: an example of my non-skill
20:01 <zmanuel> luke-jr: yes, but your ID is an uri, right?
20:01 <epsy> it's not really adapted for automated logins
20:01 <epsy> ie. when I had to use a wordpress.com openID it told me to log in at wordpress.com
20:02 <zmanuel> I remember reading specifically that its main target are bloggers, where blogger X from www.blag.net makes a comment on www.blubb.net
20:02 <epsy> yeah, AAGID's main audience is games :)
20:02 <zmanuel> and the signature can say something like "Verified as coming from the owner of www.blag.net"
20:03 <epsy> read "arma"
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20:04 <smoothice> zmanuel: I just don't think I'm destined to do this kind of thing ... :/
20:06 <zmanuel> smoothice: can you add armagetronad-dev as a team member? Then we all could help.
20:06 <luke-jr> zmanuel: yes
20:06 <luke-jr> zmanuel: the big problem IMO is that it will probably require opening a browser to login
20:07 <epsy> yes
20:07 <zmanuel> can't we integrate one? ;)
20:07 <luke-jr> zmanuel: are you serious? :/
20:07 <zmanuel> no.
20:07 <luke-jr> good
20:07 <epsy> where's ivantis
20:08 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: don't hide your location! ☹
20:09 * epsy doesn't hide his location O:-)
20:09 <smoothice> zmanuel: ok
20:10 <smoothice> PinkTomato: crud....
20:10 <PinkTomato> smoothice: ?
20:10 <smoothice> PinkTomato:
20:10 <smoothice> There is currently a high load on the server and we can't get in to fix it via console or SSH. As such we are going to do a reboot as that is the quickest way to resolve this issue.
20:10 <smoothice> PinkTomato: THat's from fsckvps
20:10 <luke-jr> lol
20:11 <PinkTomato> smoothice: regarding yours?
20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I don't know what the hell they're talking about
20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: That's what I'm not sure about
20:11 <luke-jr> smoothice: did you run a fork bomb? >_<
20:11 <luke-jr> smoothice: where do you live?
20:11 <smoothice> PinkTomato: My CPU graph is steady at 0/0.5%
20:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: USA?
20:11 <luke-jr> city?
20:11 <smoothice> luke-jr: Denver?
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20:12 <luke-jr> kthx
20:12 <PinkTomato> smoothice: It sounds like they have had to reset the whole node
20:12 <PinkTomato> so probably someone else
20:12 <smoothice> PinkTomato: hope so...
20:12 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I noticed that my arma server wasn't on this morning lol
20:13 <PinkTomato> HyperVM records your CPU usage graph?
20:13 <PinkTomato> check that
20:13 <smoothice> PinkTomato: Yeah I did it was steady at NONE
20:13 <smoothice> PinkTomato: only spike was when I compiled 0.2.8-sty
20:14 <PinkTomato> well that could mean two things
20:14 <luke-jr> https://launchpad.net/~armagetronad-sty-0.3
20:14 <smoothice> zmanuel: invited
20:14 <PinkTomato> smoothice: If they couldn't ssh it, then it would be hard to plot the graph, maybe.
20:15 <PinkTomato> epsy lives in antaritica?
20:15 <luke-jr> lulz
20:15 <PinkTomato> :)
20:15 <smoothice> PinkTomato: The graph looked fine...
20:15 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I have SSH running on an atlernate port
20:15 <PinkTomato> hmm, I should do that
20:15 <PinkTomato> I keep getting people trying to login as Brian
20:16 <PinkTomato> etc
20:16 <smoothice> PinkTomato: I thought that _since_ I had ssh running on an alternate port fsckvps said they couldn't SSH and fix it because of that
20:16 <luke-jr> smoothice: …
20:16 <luke-jr> probably
20:16 <luke-jr> do you drop port 22 as well?
20:16 <smoothice> ?????
20:16 <smoothice> Firewall is off...
20:16 <smoothice> I've rebuilt since then
20:16 <luke-jr> Linux firewall is never off
20:17 <smoothice> huh?
20:17 <smoothice> I changed SSH port from 22 to something else
20:17 <PinkTomato> actually, how would they login as root without password?
20:17 <smoothice> They know my password?
20:18 <smoothice> I don't know
20:18 <PinkTomato> they can't smoothiceice
20:18 <smoothice> hmmm
20:18 <smoothice> ok well this is weird...
20:18 <smoothice> twenty minutes before the CPU message
20:19 <smoothice> there was another message that read:
20:19 <smoothice> VPS are now booting and the server is back online
20:19 <smoothice> zmanuel: invited... you can join at any time you wish now
20:23 <smoothice> zmanuel: I might as well start out with a brand new trunk copy and apply that patch again
20:24 <PinkTomato> or use a graphical diff program
20:24 <PinkTomato> see what changes you did
20:24 <smoothice> where would I find one of those for mac os x
20:25 <smoothice> I have a graphical diff program
20:25 <smoothice> but
20:25 <smoothice> It's for two files
20:25 <smoothice> not a folder
20:26 <PinkTomato> oh,
20:26 <PinkTomato> the one I got works with SVN
20:26 <PinkTomato> but no use on macintosh
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20:31 <smoothice> #later tell PinkTomato USER_LEVEL smoothice@forums 2
20:32 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
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20:34 <flea> ok who wants it
20:34 <smoothice> ?
20:34 <flea> daddy's got a belt in his hands .. now which of you noobs wants it
20:36 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: why not Microsoft may attack me if i don't
20:37 <epsy> antartica ... cool view, cool legs
20:43 <smoothice> lol
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20:52 <smoothice> PinkTomato: hi
20:52 <epsy> crappy hell
20:53 <PinkTomato> hi smoothice :)
20:53 <epsy> make is running through an infinite look of running autoconf, configure, automake then again
20:53 <smoothice> PinkTomato I later telled you something
20:54 <smoothice> PinkTomato hope you got it...
20:54 <PinkTomato> I did, I'll change the config soon :)
20:54 <smoothice> yay!
20:54 <smoothice> until then I'll stay on your server for an indefinite period of time so I stay L_OP :P
20:55 <PinkTomato> :P
20:55 <smoothice> lol
20:55 <PinkTomato> the only view in Antarctica is a white desert.
20:57 <PinkTomato> Does anyone else's armagetron use 100% CPU on Server Browser?
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21:29 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3-armagetronad-sty] r797 Patched sty patch with NO merge fixes yet
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21:54 <zmanuel> emerging python for the fifth time now
22:09 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
22:14 <Lucifer> well, I've got *some* weights for my weight bench now
22:14 <Lucifer> and two dumbbell bars
22:14 <Lucifer> I've got 40 pounds worth of weights, which is a Good Start, at least
22:15 <ct|kyle> hey Lucifer
22:15 <Lucifer> if I can get 2 20s and 2 10s, that'll probably do me for awhile
22:15 <Lucifer> hey ct|kyle (hi there!)
22:15 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: could you change the location of the round rotation in 0.3.* to after the grid is deleted. With some big settings changed on config_rotation it forces players to loose points after a winner is declared
22:15 <Lucifer> wasn't config_rotation removed?
22:16 <Lucifer> you know, in the trunk, because ruby was coming?
22:17 <ct|kyle> ah, have not looked at it lately, i just saw a little of the code, did not look deep into it
22:21 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
22:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
22:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.3.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
22:43 <luke-jr> zmanuel: probably want to merge lp:~luke-jr/armagetronad/0.3-armagetronad-ftgl-dep-fix
22:43 <luke-jr> or Lucifer I guess
22:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.4.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
22:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.5.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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23:13 <noob13> what do these lines in my server logs mean?
23:13 <noob13> [0] User 12 does not know about netobject 9341 ( gCycle nr. 9341 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 5674, name Skull Crusher ).
23:14 <smoothice> a bug?
23:14 <noob13> hm..
23:14 <noob13> also this Warning in nMessage* sn_ConsoleOutMessage(const tOutput&) in network/nNetwork.cpp:2667
23:15 <noob13> running version..
23:15 <noob13> #sd -v yellow
23:15 <smoothice> Which version?
23:16 <@armabot> noob13: The YELLOW Submarine (85.25.64.75:4538) running 0.2.8.2.1 unix dedicated, url: http://armagetron.co.uk, Description: “not hosted in hong kong. (12Rubber+500mWalls).“, Players (7/12): Dan Glag, esega, Karolajna, Ne0n, Nikk¦A¦, Player 1, Risk, |DZW|aeiou
23:16 <smoothice> 0.2.8.2.1?
23:16 <noob13> yeh, the "Latest Version"
23:16 <noob13> :P
23:16 <smoothice> I'd update to the latest 0.2.8 alpha
23:17 <noob13> i would too, but its not my server as such..
23:17 <smoothice> then tell the person who owns it to upgrade....
23:17 <noob13> i have, she wants to wait for stable for some reason
23:18 <luke-jr> uh
23:18 <luke-jr> in THEORY, 0.2.8 is stable
23:18 <luke-jr> and 0.2.8 alpha <post-0.2.8.2.1> should be more stable than 0.2.8.2.1
23:19 <smoothice> 0.3-sty is stable too
23:19 <smoothice> :P
23:19 <luke-jr> and while that is probably not true, tagging 0.2.8.3 won't make a difference
23:19 <luke-jr> 0.3-sty is not stable
23:19 <smoothice> haha
23:19 <smoothice> just KIDDING!
23:19 <smoothice> Can you not take a joke luke?
23:19 <smoothice> lol
23:19 <luke-jr> :þ
23:20 <luke-jr> sigh, bzr is so slow
23:20 <smoothice> lol
23:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.6.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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23:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.7.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
23:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
23:38 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/test-1.8.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
23:38 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3-armagetronad-openid] r797 check client supports OpenID method || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r817 Explicitly ignoring some return values so GCC doesn't compla... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r816 Better ftgl check.... || [0.3-armagetronad-openid] r796 basic OpenID groundwork (autoconf, strings, #ifdef block) || [0.3-armagetronad-ftgl-dep-fix] r797 use standard obsoletion msg :) || [0.3-armagetronad-sty] r802 Patch app
23:41 <smoothice> armabot: more
23:41 <@armabot> smoothice: Manuel Moos r784: Copying documentation files. || Manuel Moos r783: Removed obsolete/unused source files. || Manuel Moos r782: More adaptions to new version variables. || Manuel Moos r781: Fixed output. || Manuel Moos r780: Hopefully adapted to new version stuff. || Manuel Moos r779: Removed obsolete version.h include. || Manuel Moos r778: Fixed flashing of teamname between rounds if (4 more messages)
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23:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/Death-Arena-2.0-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
Log from 2009-01-25:
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00:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Death-Arena-2.0-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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00:16 <ct|kyle> #rating smoothice
00:16 <@armabot> ct|kyle: smoothice is 9951st with a rating of 1354-1408 (from 1356-1406)
00:16 <ct|kyle> #rating ct_ky13
00:16 <@armabot> ct|kyle: ct_ky13 is 11425th with a rating of 1327-1442 (from 1331-1445)
00:18 <smoothice> and what does that do?
00:18 <smoothice> #help rating
00:18 <@armabot> smoothice: (rating <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "web fetch [format concat http://ratings.armagetronad.net/rating.php?slashes=1&name=[urlquote @1]]".
00:19 <ct|kyle> smoothice: measures kills
00:19 <smoothice> oh...
00:19 <ct|kyle> ya pointless
00:19 <smoothice> yeah lol
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00:40 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3-armagetronad-openid] r799 some more code, before deciding OpenID is too flawed to work... || [0.3-armagetronad-openid] r798 GCC 4.1.2 is pedantic about tString :(
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00:46 <luke-jr> #rating luke-jr
00:46 <@armabot> luke-jr: luke-jr is 237th with a rating of 1628-1691 (from 1650-1709)
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00:55 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Devel/Death-Test-1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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01:00 <BabyBug> #rating
01:00 <@armabot> BabyBug: is 3947th with a rating of 1470-1515 (from 1473-1513)
01:00 <BabyBug> ='(
01:00 <Flex> #rating
01:00 <@armabot> Flex: is 3947th with a rating of 1470-1515 (from 1473-1513)
01:01 <BabyBug> Oh woops
01:01 <Flex> #rating Flex
01:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Death-Arena-2.0-1.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
01:01 <BabyBug> #rating BabyBug
01:01 <@armabot> Flex: flex is 1172nd with a rating of 1559-1593 (from 1563-1591)
01:01 <@armabot> BabyBug: babybug is 6162nd with a rating of 1424-1508 (from 1441-1538)
01:01 <BabyBug> O.o
01:01 <Flex> #rating Flex@forums
01:01 <@armabot> Flex: I don't know anything about 'flex@forums'!
01:02 <Flex> #rating Lizmatic
01:02 <@armabot> Flex: lizmatic is 1626th with a rating of 1540-1616 (from 1616-1709)
01:04 <madmax> #rating player 1
01:04 <@armabot> madmax: player_1 is 8835th with a rating of 1372-1404 (from 1431-1451)
01:04 <BabyBug> #n9
01:04 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (2/16): N9::MreDD, The Beåst
01:05 <madmax> player 1 has a rating above ct|kyle and smoothice muhahaha
01:06 <Flex> #rating luke-jr
01:06 <@armabot> Flex: luke-jr is 237th with a rating of 1628-1691 (from 1650-1709)
01:06 * BabyBug glares at madmax
01:06 * madmax smacks BabyBug
01:07 <Flex> pwned
01:07 <BabyBug> how come you're never on n9 anymore flex? :P
01:07 <BabyBug> and madmax!
01:07 <madmax> #ls madmax
01:08 <@armabot> madmax: timed out
01:08 <madmax> not on any server actually
01:09 <madmax> #ls -g madmax@forums
01:09 <@armabot> madmax: madmax has last been seen on Fortress Café 3 days 0 hours 3 minutes ago.
01:09 <madmax> \o/
01:10 <smoothice> #lastseen madmax
01:10 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
01:10 <madmax> huh, ls == lastseen
01:10 <smoothice> oh
01:10 <smoothice> lol
01:10 <flea> @whatthefsckisgoingonin wild west capture the flag armabot
01:10 <flea> !whatthefsckisgoingonin wild west capture the flag armabot
01:11 <smoothice> #help ls
01:11 <flea> how that thing works
01:11 <flea> #whatthefsckisgoingonin wild west capture the flag armabot ##
01:11 <@armabot> smoothice: (ls <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "lastseen $*".
01:11 <flea> #help me win
01:11 <@armabot> flea: Error: There is no command "me win".
01:12 <smoothice> #help lastseen
01:12 <@armabot> smoothice: (lastseen <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://wrtlprnft.ath.cx/serverlist/lastseen.php?player=@1+@2+@3+@4+@5+@6+@7+@8+@9".
01:12 <flea> #help armabot
01:12 <@armabot> flea: Error: There is no command "armabot".
01:12 <flea> #help
01:12 <@armabot> flea: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
01:14 <flea> #ls haha
01:14 <@armabot> flea: haha has last been seen on Wild West =Capture The Flag= 4 minutes ago.
01:14 <flea> kickin ass too
01:14 <flea> #stats haha
01:14 <flea> yea
01:14 <@armabot> flea: (stats takes no arguments) -- Returns some statistics on the user database.
01:15 <flea> #rank haha
01:18 <smoothice> #ls -g smoothice
01:19 <@armabot> smoothice: I haven't seen anyone matching “smoothice” yet, sorry.
01:22 <smoothice> #ls -g SmOoThice~NW
01:23 <@armabot> smoothice: I haven't seen anyone matching “SmOoThice~NW” yet, sorry.
01:26 <ct|kyle> #rating madmax
01:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: madmax is 191st with a rating of 1637-1679 (from 1633-1678)
01:27 <ct|kyle> i don't play on many if any servers that use the stats
01:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Tronix25/Xzombie/Death-Arena-2.0-1.2.aamap.xml: Resource by Tronix25
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01:42 <flea> #rating haha
01:42 <@armabot> flea: haha is 3342nd with a rating of 1486-1520 (from 1489-1517)
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01:55 <Flex> urm there's two nexus9's
01:55 <Flex> #n9
01:55 <@armabot> Flex: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (2/16): bsdhacker, ¦×¦ Lizmatic
01:56 <Flex> madmax
01:56 <Flex> coming?
01:56 <madmax> no
01:57 * BabyBug growls at madmax
01:59 <luke-jr> lulz
02:07 <Lucifer> well, I think the 40 pounds I have for my weight bench are adequate for now, heh
02:24 * BabyBug whacks Flex!!
02:26 <Flex> had to say something
02:26 <Flex> have the gold ;)
02:26 <Flex> from lisa ;P
02:26 <BabyBug> YOU owe me the gold!
02:26 <Flex> yeah, she'll give it..
02:26 <BabyBug> ... I want it from yooooh =P
02:26 <BabyBug> Your bet..your gold! =P
02:27 <Flex> it is my gold.. lol
02:27 <Flex> i give her gold! :p
02:27 <Flex> pff you know what.. lets play.. double or nothing
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02:27 <BabyBug> !!!
02:27 <BabyBug> We were playing double or nothing till you left >< lmao
02:28 <Flex> had to
02:28 <ct|kyle> o0
02:28 <BabyBug> psssht
02:28 <BabyBug> yeh right =P
02:35 <Flex> pfff you don't gamble like that lol
02:35 <Flex> come back
02:36 <BabyBug> hahaha
02:36 <BabyBug> newp!
02:36 <Flex> warming up..
02:36 <BabyBug> no no no...no excuses mister!
02:37 <BabyBug> if you've got 1000g to give away...200g isn't going to hurt you much is it? =P
02:37 <Flex> come back for 5000g
02:38 <smoothice> FLEX
02:38 <BabyBug> no
02:38 <BabyBug> lol
02:38 <smoothice> meh muscles
02:39 <Flex> you got lucky, whatever!
02:39 <Flex> i'm going bed
02:39 <BabyBug> haha suuuure i did hunni
02:39 <BabyBug> =P
02:39 <BabyBug> night! i'll be expecting some mail =P
02:39 <Flex> i ain't mailing you shiiiettt
02:40 <Flex> lisa will do it
02:40 <BabyBug> you can't make a bet and then go back on it =P
02:41 <BabyBug> 2 bets infact :P
02:41 <Flex> she spends gold faster than i can make :(
02:42 <BabyBug> but you make more than me so you'll be paying your debt =P
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03:37 <Lucifer> hmmm
03:37 <Lucifer> looks like I'm going to need to try to borrow some money for rent :(
03:37 <Lucifer> anybody got any money I can borrow? ;)
03:39 <ivantis2> not me
03:40 <smoothice-away> not me
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03:50 * smoothice pokes BabyBug
03:51 <BabyBug> ?
03:51 <BabyBug> How much money Lucifer? =x
03:57 <BabyBug> smoothice, what did you want? :P
04:08 <smoothice> BabyBug: I don't know lol
04:09 <BabyBug> ...
04:09 <smoothice> BabyBug: I don't know maybe you should become a KidBug
04:09 <smoothice> or a TeenBug
04:09 <smoothice> or an AdultBug
04:09 <BabyBug> O.o
04:10 <BabyBug> The "Baby" isn't meant in the sense of an actual baby...
04:10 <smoothice> ?
04:11 <BabyBug> ... ><
04:11 <ivantis2> luke-jr, updated my time zone? ...thanks
04:12 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: is a BZR troll :P
04:14 <ivantis2> sweet! i downloaded this app to my phone, that whenever im at school (by GPS) or it is the time that i would be at school, my phone automatically goes to vibrate
04:14 <ivantis2> also i set it for movie theaters and some other stuff
04:17 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I'm guessing you used MySQLdb for python, It seams a lot better than what i was trying to use sqlAlchemy
04:17 <Lucifer> I have a buddy who swears by sqlAlchemy
04:17 <Lucifer> BabyBug: somewhere around $800 USD
04:17 <Lucifer> but every little bit helps ;)
04:18 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: so what is the Baby meant for?
04:18 <BabyBug> It's meant in the same way that a bf would call his gf...
04:19 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, what's wrong with sqlalchemy?
04:19 <BabyBug> #g 800 USD in GBP
04:19 <@armabot> BabyBug: 800 U.S. dollars = 581.226388 British pounds
04:19 <BabyBug> Lucifer, that's some expensive rent.....
04:19 <Lucifer> er, is it really?
04:19 <ivantis2> #g 800 USD in Rupees
04:19 <@armabot> ivantis2: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
04:19 <luke-jr> indeed, he must have a house bit enough for his kids too
04:20 <Lucifer> the figure I gave is rent + bills + daily expenses
04:20 <luke-jr> oh, that's different XD
04:20 <Lucifer> for about two weeks
04:20 <ivantis2> wot? doesnt have Rupees? lame. i would pay you if i knew how much it was in Rupees
04:20 <Lucifer> actual rent is $350
04:20 <BabyBug> ...
04:20 <BabyBug> Well that's cheaper
04:20 <BabyBug> lol
04:20 <luke-jr> $350 isn't much XD
04:20 <Lucifer> but that's my portion of a 3br house
04:20 <Lucifer> I've got 2 roommates :)
04:20 <luke-jr> seems fairish
04:20 <Lucifer> it is
04:20 <ivantis2> ask them for a loan
04:20 <luke-jr> I paid $975/mo when I had a 3br house
04:20 <BabyBug> O.o
04:20 <Lucifer> the one in the master bedroom pays a little more than the two of us that share the hall bathroom
04:21 <Lucifer> neither of my roommates can loan right now
04:21 <ivantis2> I pay $0/mo currently. i rent from a great company
04:21 <ct|kyle> heh my grandpa rents his for 625 3 bedroom
04:21 <Lucifer> my ex's house is $800/month, but it's actually not as nice a house as this one
04:21 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: it's not in Austin, I take it?
04:21 <Lucifer> Austin has some of the highest rent in the country
04:21 <Lucifer> not *the* highest, more like top 10 or so
04:21 <ct|kyle> nope fort wayne
04:22 <ct|kyle> actually he has 2, his dumpier one is $550
04:23 <luke-jr> Lucifer: roommates kick you out if you can't come up w/ it? O.o
04:23 <Lucifer> more than likely, we'll all get kicked out together by the landlord
04:23 <Lucifer> if I had a significant portion of it, I might be able to make a deal with the landlord
04:23 <Lucifer> but right now, I've got $100 in the bank, and I don't get a paycheck from the school until the 13th
04:23 <Lucifer> of February
04:23 <BabyBug> Don't you have a nice landlord?
04:23 <Lucifer> no
04:24 <Lucifer> we have a slumlord
04:24 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: it just seams like MySQLdb will be better for what i want to do, not much against sqlAlchemy
04:24 <luke-jr> even nice landlords want to be paid :/
04:24 <BabyBug> Kick the landlord down the gutter!
04:24 <Lucifer> I've never used sqlAlchemy
04:24 <luke-jr> I had a nice landlord of my house, but 1 day late = $35 more
04:24 <Lucifer> BabyBug: if I had been able to start that job, I'd be in no trouble now :(
04:24 <BabyBug> luke-jr, but nice land lords usually say "ok it's fine if it's late" if they know you have a pay check coming..
04:24 <BabyBug> luke-jr, that's not a nice land lord
04:25 <Lucifer> depends, there are many ways a landlord can be nice
04:25 <luke-jr> BabyBug: yeah, but if you just happen to forget until 1 day late, they expect it
04:25 <luke-jr> I had the $, but forgot to pay
04:25 <Lucifer> if he repairs everything quickly, immediately, and are not at all lenient on rent due date, that's considered nice
04:25 <ivantis2> @g 300F in C
04:25 <teabot> ivantis2: http://www.instawares.com/thermistor-instrument-without-probe.cak-10tc100aonlye.0.7.htm - Thermistor Instrument - without probe - -40 to 300 F (and C)
04:25 <ct|kyle> my grandpa gives you like 5 days and then the $35 late fee or something close to that
04:25 <Lucifer> I prefer landlords that stay away, let me live in privacy
04:25 <ivantis2> huh?
04:26 <ivantis2> @g 80 Degrees Fahrenheit in Celsius
04:26 <teabot> ivantis2: http://www.ehow.com/how_2045586_translate-fahrenheit-celsius.html - How to Translate Fahrenheit into Celsius | eHow.com
04:26 <ivantis2> ??
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04:26 <ct|kyle> you would hate my grandpas :P we are in and our of their almost every day we have work building behind it
04:26 <BabyBug> Lucifer, we have a different meaning on nice =P
04:27 <BabyBug> repairing everything quickly imo is just following the contract :P
04:27 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: I tend to do things in my home that a landlord might consider questionable, but not technically violations of the lease
04:27 <BabyBug> Nice is when he's lenient on the contract
04:27 <BabyBug> he/she
04:27 <Lucifer> I do also tend to do very minor lease violations, stuff that are on every lease but I think are unreasonable
04:28 <ct|kyle> like what
04:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: let's not forget that renting in Britain can be very different than renting in the US :)
04:28 <ivantis2> @g 80K in C
04:28 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: depends on the lease, mostly, I'm not actually thinking of anything right now
04:28 <BabyBug> Lucifer, indeed...we have nicer landlords =P
04:28 <teabot> ivantis2: http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/job/806921/country-sales-director-clondon-c80k/ - Country Sales Director, C.London - c.80k jobs, UK, England ...
04:28 <ivantis2> dude, why is google calc not workin?
04:28 <Lucifer> BabyBug: you've also had massive uprisings against feudal overlords in your history
04:28 <BabyBug> against what?
04:28 <Lucifer> renting in Britain is the modern derivative of the old feudal system, iirc
04:29 <BabyBug> You've confused me now...I've never actually rented a house soo... =x
04:29 <ivantis2> im writing a units converter for my android phone, i need to test it!!!
04:29 <ct|kyle> #g 80K in C
04:29 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 80 kelvin = -193.15 degrees Celsius
04:29 <ivantis2> oh...
04:29 <Lucifer> anyway, landlords here are given a particular amount of time in which they have to effect repairs
04:29 <ivantis2> :) it worked!
04:29 <Lucifer> it's something like 1 week
04:30 <Lucifer> landlords tend to drag their feet on it, and if they take 2 weeks for the repair, they may have broken their agreement,
04:30 <ivantis2> java is such a dumb language
04:30 <Lucifer> but they know that if you bother to deal with it, they can always refuse to renew the lease agreement
04:30 <Lucifer> and you have to move
04:30 <ct|kyle> ivantis2: yes it is
04:30 <ivantis2> #g 80K in F
04:30 <@armabot> ivantis2: 80 kelvin = -315.67 degrees Fahrenheit
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04:30 <Lucifer> so, when a landlord has somebody out to fix something the next day after you tell them it's broke, that's a nice landlord
04:30 <ivantis2> armastybot, ping
04:30 <armastybot> pong
04:30 <Lucifer> our landlord doesn't do that
04:30 <BabyBug> lol
04:30 <ivantis2> great! a new bot
04:30 <smoothice> lol
04:31 <Lucifer> instead, he asks when he can fix something, and he makes sure to show up outside the timeframe we give him
04:31 <ivantis2> smoothice, tthat yours?
04:31 <Lucifer> he does a half-assed incompetent repair
04:31 <smoothice> no it isn't
04:31 <smoothice> must be ct|kyle's
04:31 <smoothice> ;)
04:31 <Lucifer> and we have to fix it ourselves
04:31 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: fixing a rental house is suposed to be half assed
04:31 <BabyBug> =x
04:31 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: yes, but the fix is supposed to *work*
04:31 <Lucifer> when he "fixed" our shower, we had less water pressure than I get out of my penis
04:32 <Lucifer> and only hot water
04:32 <Lucifer> well, warm water
04:32 <Lucifer> not hot, not cold
04:32 <ct|kyle> LOL
04:32 <smoothice> ivantis2: it is mine
04:32 <smoothice> ivantis2: lol
04:32 <Lucifer> so I spent the $5 or so to fix it myself, and we've got a good working shower
04:33 <ivantis2> my cat has the hiccups
04:33 <ivantis2> hee hee
04:33 <Lucifer> I did put the wrong knob on it, but none of us could think of a reason to go get the right one, or put the old one back on
04:33 <ivantis2> smoothice, prefix?
04:33 <ivantis2> !ping
04:33 <ivantis2> @ping
04:33 <teabot> pong
04:33 <smoothice> &
04:33 <ivantis2> dude thats perlbot2's!
04:33 <ivantis2> &ping
04:33 <armastybot> pong
04:34 <smoothice> lol
04:34 <BabyBug> SO why is there another bot in here? O.o
04:34 <smoothice> It's the 0.3-sty bot
04:34 <ivantis2> isnt it obvious?
04:34 <smoothice> lol
04:34 <BabyBug> That doesn't really explain why :P
04:34 <ivantis2> well, what do you think about it?
04:35 <BabyBug> bots are annoying...someone should just combine everything into armabot..
04:36 <ivantis2> annoying? unless its beeping me when i dont ask it to, im not annoyed
04:36 <smoothice> &part
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04:36 <Lucifer> yes, but when it says "32 nicks" in my status bar, I'd like to know that 99% of those are real people
04:36 <BabyBug> exactly!
04:37 * Lucifer randomly kicks bots he doesn't know
04:37 <BabyBug> So what exactly is armastybot meant to do?
04:37 <ivantis2> ha, xchat should have a new feature: if someones ident or nick contains 'bot', its a bot. it would say 'x people, y bots'
04:37 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: start at ljrbot
04:37 <smoothice> ljrbot, part
04:37 <ljrbot> smoothice: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
04:38 <ivantis2> ]lkfdsa
04:38 <ivantis2> ah luke-jr fixed it
04:38 <ct|kyle> ]bible search Lucifer
04:38 <ivantis2> ljrbot, bible search Lucifer
04:38 <ljrbot> Job 11:17 Et quasi meridianus fulgor consurget tibi ad vesperam ; et cum te consumptum putaveris, orieris ut lucifer. , 38:32 Numquid producis luciferum in tempore suo, et vesperum super filios terræ consurgere facis ? ; Psalmi 109:3 Tecum principium in die virtutis tuæ in splendoribus sanctorum : ex utero, ante luciferum, genui te. ; Isaias 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O (3 more messages)
04:39 <smoothice> ljrbot, bible search ivantis
04:39 <ct|kyle> i really don't think that needs to be added to armabot
04:39 <Lucifer> will you guys cut that out?
04:39 <smoothice> ?
04:39 * Lucifer gets pinged everytime a message with "Lucifer" in it shows up
04:39 <ljrbot> smoothice: No results
04:39 <ivantis2> lame
04:39 <ivantis2> ljrbot, bible search ice
04:39 <smoothice> Lucifer: #armagetron-0.3-sty
04:40 <Lucifer> smoothice: why?
04:40 <smoothice> Lucifer: We got sty running on 0.3
04:40 <Lucifer> why do we need a separate irc channel for it?
04:41 <ivantis2> smoothice, we did? fo' real?
04:41 <smoothice> Lucifer: to not bloat up this channel with 0.3-sty matters
04:41 <smoothice> ivantis2: YES!!!!
04:41 <ivantis2> smoothice, my branch?
04:41 <smoothice> ivantis2: ??????
04:41 <smoothice> ivantis2: no....0.3-armagetronad-sty
04:41 <ivantis2> oh
04:41 <ivantis2> it needs at least +ct, cool features in that
04:41 <Lucifer> er, this channel is for *all* arma matters, isn't it?
04:42 <smoothice> well then why is there a armagetron-servers channel
04:42 <Lucifer> there is?
04:42 <smoothice> #armagetron-servers
04:42 <ivantis2> #armagetron-tourneys
04:42 <Lucifer> Armagetron Advanced Home For Spammy Server Bots
04:42 <Lucifer> the tourneys channel has a particular purpose
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04:45 <BabyBug> Lucifer, you should go to store...buy a pack of ciggarettes with your credit card and ask for $800 cash back!
04:45 <Lucifer> BabyBug: no credit card
04:45 <BabyBug> ><
04:45 <Lucifer> I have a check card, it acts like a credit card for the credit card machines, but the money comes out of my checking account
04:45 <BabyBug> well there's that idea down the drain
04:45 <Lucifer> if I had a credit card, I wouldn't be asking to borrow money right now, heh
04:46 <BabyBug> =x
04:47 <ivantis2> #plugin echo
04:47 <@armabot> ivantis2: The "echo" command is available in the Utilities plugin.
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04:52 <Lucifer> I found the workout I was looking for, heh
04:53 * Lucifer was looking for a workout that had all the weight training exercises he already knew, but contained a full body workout (with new exercises as needed)
04:53 <BabyBug> \o/
05:06 * BabyBug rocks
05:07 * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug
05:07 * BabyBug pokes ct|kyle
05:07 <ct|kyle> with a sharp rock :P
05:07 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, there's a bug (i think) with the 0.2.8-sty+ct branch
05:08 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: what?
05:08 <BabyBug> The styball server is always saying there's 1 person in there on the server browser. When infact there's two.
05:08 <BabyBug> In the Players list, it does list both of them though
05:08 <ivantis2> does anyone here have an iPhone?
05:09 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: i think that is a bug with stats because it happened occasionally in other servers
05:10 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, i have no idea what stats you mean but i'll just nod and agree
05:12 <BabyBug> Lucifer, make a work out tape!
05:12 <Lucifer> er, why?
05:12 <BabyBug> fun!
05:13 <Lucifer> nobody wants to watch a slightly chubby middle-aged man telling them how to work out :)
05:13 <BabyBug> All the chubby female celebrities get away with it...
05:14 <Lucifer> heh, maybe in the UK....
05:14 <ct|kyle> wargasm got away with it
05:14 <Lucifer> I'm not making an exercise video
05:14 <Lucifer> I can't stand watching them, I can't think of a reason I'd make one
05:15 <BabyBug> for a laugh!
05:15 <Lucifer> maybe I should do something interesting for a laugh instead, eh? ;)
05:15 <BabyBug> mmmmm...like? =P
05:16 <Lucifer> stick figure cartoons
05:16 <BabyBug> erm..no
05:16 <Lucifer> I know
05:16 <Lucifer> I'll my penis in a hotdog bun, cover it with cold chili and cold, melted cheese, and take a picture of that
05:17 <BabyBug> hrm...yesh do that O.o
05:17 <Lucifer> then I'll try to trick people on slashdot to click on links that show that picture
05:17 <ct|kyle> replace cold with hot
05:17 <ct|kyle> :P
05:17 <ivantis2> ..gross
05:18 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: that should have been on #luke-jrisanasshat
05:18 <BabyBug> it'd certainly add some uniqueness to a bj...
05:19 <Lucifer> I wouldn't take a bj from a woman that eats chili-cheese dogs
05:19 <Lucifer> didn't we talk about that already?
05:19 <BabyBug> surprisingly no we never
05:19 <BabyBug> lol
05:19 <Lucifer> sure we did
05:19 <Lucifer> something about fat, lazy chicks that insist on keeping their back in constant contact with the bed....
05:19 <BabyBug> newp...chilli cheese dogs have never come up like that before..
05:20 <BabyBug> lol
05:20 <BabyBug> smoothice, how old are you btw?
05:20 <smoothice> I don't share that.
05:20 <BabyBug> ...
05:20 <ivantis2> BabyBug, 2yrs
05:21 <smoothice> me?
05:21 <smoothice> 2yrs?
05:21 <smoothice> Impossible
05:21 <Lucifer> no, that's how long he's been sleeping with your mom, ivantis2 (hi there!)
05:22 <ivantis2> sleepover? pillow fight!
05:22 <ivantis2> ugh i have a headache, maybe i should get to bed
05:22 <BabyBug> good idea! then you'll stop giving us a headache!
05:23 <ivantis2> how am i giving you a headache?
05:23 <ivantis2> what have i done in the last hour that has bugged anyone?
05:23 <ct|kyle> ivantis2: it is from that salmonella you got
05:23 <BabyBug> ivantis2, you spoke =P
05:23 <Lucifer> ivantis2: you talked
05:23 <BabyBug> see
05:23 <BabyBug> lol
05:23 <Lucifer> BabyBug: quit copying me!
05:23 <BabyBug> you copied me!
05:24 <Lucifer> oh, well, ok then, sorry
05:24 <BabyBug> =)
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05:36 <BabyBug> ahhh the pain killers worked
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05:39 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: it was actually my poking that worked :P
05:40 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, poking anyone with that small thing will never work ;)
05:41 * ct|kyle does not have a small thing
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05:42 <BabyBug> a small what?
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06:42 <flea> bleh
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07:02 <SignalOne> hello
07:03 <SignalOne> lucifer here or lukejr
07:06 <SignalOne> <------aa irc nub
07:06 <SignalOne> welcomes slef
07:06 <SignalOne> self*
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07:13 <SignalOne> :)
07:22 * Lucifer kills BabyBug's painkillers
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09:10 <mib_r8svzxye> Hello?
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09:11 <Quinnr> Hello
09:38 <SignalOne> hi
09:39 <SignalOne> omg someone said something in here and i missed it
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10:49 <SignalOne> http://www.publikhair.com/
10:49 <SignalOne> gn
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11:41 <zmanuel> Weeeeee
11:41 <zmanuel> upgraded bazaarmagetron to bzr 1.11, finally.
11:46 <wrtlprnft> anything amazingly new in that version? :-)
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12:55 <epsy> 23:13 <noob13> [0] User 12 does not know about netobject 9341 ( gCycle nr. 9341 owned by ePlayerNetID nr. 5674, name Skull Crusher ).
12:55 <epsy> noob13: just means that the user lagged and missed the message telling him about whatever is printed
13:14 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r997 Small translation bump....
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13:30 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8887 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/language/deutsch.txt: Manuel Moos: Small translation bump.
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13:44 <epsy> z-manuel, something looks strange in the name of your TST server
13:44 <epsy> #sd - Z-Man's
13:44 * z-manuel blames silly color codes
13:44 <@armabot> epsy: TST 2009.111 - Z-Man's: Players (0/32):
13:44 <epsy> heh
13:45 <epsy> I fixed the date on the rules page
13:45 <epsy> http://tst.armagetron.co.uk/rules/
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13:45 <z-manuel> good for you :)
13:46 <epsy> you could just copy-paste it, it would be easier :)
13:46 <z-manuel> I DID
13:49 <epsy> :)
13:50 <z-manuel> what was my TST ID again?
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14:18 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r796 Merged utf8 branch.... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] r818 Merging from trunk....
14:31 <PinkTomato> #sd -v - Pink Tomatoes's
14:31 <@armabot> PinkTomato: TST 2009.01 - Pink Tomatoes's (67.222.143.161:4535) running 0.2.8_alpha20090125 unix dedicated, url: http://tst.armagetron.co.uk, Description: “Team Sumo Server. TST Settings.“, Players (1/32): R£P>PinkTomato
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15:02 <Lizmatic> TST starts at 20:00 GMT right?
15:04 <Concord> yes
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15:13 <Lizmatic> ok
15:14 <epsy> @tstservers
15:14 <epsy> (see #armagetron.tourneys 's topic)
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15:56 <epsy> http://epsy.teamkilled.net:8080/~epsy/screenshots/arma-team/screenshot_1001.png
15:57 <wrtlprnft> z-index bug?
16:00 <epsy> sounds like it
16:00 <epsy> heh, FcT :)
16:00 <wrtlprnft> weird, i never got anything like that… transparency might get screwed up, but that should be it
16:00 <luke-jr> we need some kind of console/center message that doesn't go away until teh server sez OK
16:01 <wrtlprnft> we have that, sort of
16:01 <epsy> sounds like as if it was drawn right after the cycle
16:01 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it always is
16:01 <wrtlprnft> i just added my cockpit code to the spot where the names over the cycles were drawn
16:02 <wrtlprnft> technically both the cockpit and the names should be moved to after all 3D stuff is drawn
16:02 <epsy> it should cycle through cycles before the rest of HUD gets drawn IMO
16:02 <epsy> :)
16:02 <wrtlprnft> yeah, exactly
16:05 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: we do? why doesn't that annoying "Only spectators online" use it?
16:05 <wrtlprnft> because noone thought of it?
16:06 <wrtlprnft> there's fullscreen_message
16:06 <PinkTomato> Oh regarding that, wrtlprnft fade does not work for me. It fades the map as well
16:06 <wrtlprnft> i know, it's broken
16:06 <PinkTomato> ah, OK :)
16:07 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: …
16:07 <wrtlprnft> i'll probably just remove it, it's gotten hard to implement
16:07 <luke-jr> fullscreen_message is backward compatible? ☺
16:07 <luke-jr> and only disappears when the *server* says so?
16:07 <wrtlprnft> fullscreen_message becomes a console_message for old clients
16:08 <wrtlprnft> and there is a timeout when it'll disappear automatically, but it can be dismissed by the user before that
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17:22 <K-Yo> #ls sebol
17:22 <@armabot> K-Yo: ct|SeBoL158 seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 2 right now.
17:23 <K-Yo> #ls xyro
17:23 <@armabot> K-Yo: timed out
17:23 <K-Yo> #ls xyr
17:23 <@armabot> K-Yo: -»|Xyrøn has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 1 minute ago.
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17:24 <smoothice> #ls smoothice~nw
17:24 <@armabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts} Racing II 29 minutes ago.
17:24 <K-Yo> #ls xyr
17:24 <@armabot> K-Yo: -»|Xyrøn seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 2 right now.
17:24 <K-Yo> #si catf
17:24 <@armabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Wild Catfight 2: Players (3/4): -»|Xyrøn (Xyron@ct), CRaZy B3eR, ct|SeBoL158
17:28 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r798 Updated OS X project for changes that occured during utf8 me... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r797 Use size_t. Fixes ambiguous operator[] errors.... || [0.3-armagetronad-sty] r803 Merge from trunk || [osx-libs] r1 Initial commit...
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17:29 <smoothice> #list rss
17:29 <@armabot> smoothice: 0.3.1, add, announce, armaannounce, armablah, armacommits, armawiki, ftsfeedback, info, lpbugs, reddit, remove, rss, sty, and sty+ct
17:29 <smoothice> #armacommits
17:29 <@armabot> smoothice: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r798 Updated OS X project for changes that occured during utf8 me... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r797 Use size_t. Fixes ambiguous operator[] errors.... || [0.3-armagetronad-sty] r803 Merge from trunk || [osx-libs] r1 Initial commit... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r997 Small translation bump.... || [0.3-armagetronad-openid] r799 some more code, before deciding (4 more messages)
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18:11 <smoothice> hey guys when I connect to an 0.3 server using an 0.2.8 alpha client it says you are connecting using an unsupported CVS build
18:11 <smoothice> is there any way to allow alpha clients through
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18:33 <@armabot> armacommits: [utf8-armagetronad-work] r816 Automatic merging of commits that would change history order... || [utf8-armagetronad-work] Automatic merging of commits that would change history order... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Merging from trunk.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Explicitly ignoring some return values so GCC doesn't compla... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] Better ftgl check....
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18:41 <smoothice> hey guys when I connect to an 0.3 server using an 0.2.8 alpha client it says you are connecting using an unsupported CVS build... is there any way to allow alpha clients through
18:41 <epsy> http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=8aJjMOy-Ops
18:42 <smoothice> epsy: ^^
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19:16 <sinewav> hi
19:16 <smoothice> hi
19:17 <pikey> hi
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19:20 <K-Yo> hi
19:22 <smoothice> hi
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19:29 <sinewav> I can't stop my server from showing up on the list. Any suggestions?
19:30 <sinewav> anyone?
19:31 <PinkTomato> TALK_TO_MASTER 0 ?
19:31 <MaZuffeR> change port
19:31 <sinewav> Hmm. I guess I need luke to do that.
19:37 <smoothice> sinewav: why do you need luke?
19:38 <smoothice> sinewav: SERVER_PORT
19:38 <Concord> anyone up for some fort?
19:38 <Concord> come to ladle 2
19:38 <Concord> #si crazy tronners ladle 2
19:39 <@armabot> Concord: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “crazy tronners ladle 2” at the moment, sorry.
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19:44 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: I mean something where it just doesn't disappear automatically
19:44 <luke-jr> nor timeout
19:44 <luke-jr> it waits until the server supersedes it
19:45 <luke-jr> smoothice: obviously the servers I host have locked ports
19:45 <luke-jr> Armagetron hosting doesn't come with a dedicated IP address
19:45 <luke-jr> I'd say sinewav found a bug :/
19:48 <K-Yo> #si ladle
19:48 <@armabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2: Players (13/26): .:] Corn, ballbags+, ct|Puuquie (Puuquie@forums), cT¤speed, Max Pain, MaZuffeR (MaZuffeR@forums), picabo, PlayerNuby (PlayerNub@forums), ray (radian@forums), sine.wav (sinewav@forums), ~*DelTa*~, ¦×¦ Jolt, °butthole
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19:54 <PinkTomato> Anyone looking for a ladle team :)?
19:54 <akira_arma> hmm
19:54 <akira_arma> maybe I
19:55 <PinkTomato> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Fast_Fruits :)
19:55 <akira_arma> O.o
19:55 <PinkTomato> Hehe :)
19:56 <PinkTomato> Every team must have a silly name.,
19:56 <PinkTomato> smoothice: are you playing in the ladle?
19:59 <pikey> in two weeks' time there could be more open teams than clans in Ladle :P
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20:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/Race/Sun-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
20:07 <BabyBug> \o
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20:13 <sunny> hey ashi
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20:28 <epsy> z-man, is it possible to not have arma start in fullscreen after 2 "crashes" ?
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20:55 <z-man> epsy: in debug mode, yes. why?
20:55 <epsy> starting 5 recorders :<
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20:58 <freako> pink :)
20:58 <PinkTomato> hi freako :)
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20:59 <epsy> OK, screw that idea
20:59 <z-man> pass each a different --vardir.
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21:00 <freako> epsy i polay
21:00 <freako> with MonkeyDluffy
21:01 <epsy> ok
21:02 <freako> btw. did u change the challenge board today?
21:03 <freako> first it said freaky+delta at g5-s freaky refreshed the pag and it became @ X
21:04 <freako> *thats what he said*
21:05 <z-man> moth is looking for a substitute partner.
21:05 <z-man> Replacing Desolate.
21:05 <freako> ask weed/xyron
21:05 <z-man> Anyone up?
21:05 <freako> there seearching someone
21:06 <G5> freako: lots of TST servers available ...
21:07 <epsy> freako, he complained about his ping being huge in G5's
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21:08 <freako> pink?
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21:14 <epsy> also, better talk about TST stuff in #armagetron.tourneys
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21:27 <freako> ok
21:27 <freako> Monkeydluffy+freako won at g-5
21:27 <freako> 2-0-0
21:28 <epsy> z-man, finished yet?
21:28 <freako> not yet
21:31 <epsy> freako, z-man: /join #armagetron.tourneys
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21:34 <Lizmatic> freako is with monkey d luffy
21:34 <Lizmatic> ?
21:34 <epsy> yes
21:34 <Lizmatic> ah, do you know who won in the other servers perhaps?
21:36 <Lizmatic> did emmy and k-yo win? anyone can answer this :D
21:36 <epsy> no
21:37 <Lizmatic> who did then?
21:37 <epsy> nobody did, the match isn't over yet
21:37 <Lizmatic> oh
21:37 <Lizmatic> slackers
21:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8888 /armagetronad/branches/utf8/armagetronad/ (12 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)
21:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: Automatic merging of commits that would change history order:
21:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------
21:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: revno: 815.2.1
21:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: committer: Bazaarmagetron <z-man@users.sf.net>
21:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: branch nick: utf8-armagetronad-sync
21:44 <@armabot> armagetronad: timestamp: Sun 2009-01-25 17:58:03 +0100
21:44 <z-man> Welcome back, bazaarmagetron!
21:45 <epsy> hehe
22:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8889 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (38 files in 13 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
22:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merged utf8 branch.
22:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-24 Explicitly ignoring some return values so GCC doesn't c...
22:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-24 Better ftgl check.
22:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-19 Old user configuration files are now read in latin1 mode,
22:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-19 Gave rTextField::GetTextLength overloads different name...
22:02 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8890 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/ui/uMenu.h): Daniel Lee Harple: Use size_t. Fixes ambiguous operator[] errors.
22:03 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8891 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Daniel Lee Harple: Updated OS X project for changes that occured during utf8 merge.
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22:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8892 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/: Bazaarmagetron: Empty merge to keep the peace between svn and bzr.
22:43 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r998 Empty merge to keep the peace between svn and bzr. || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r997 Manuel Moos: Small translation bump.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] Small translation bump....
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22:44 <epsy> hmpf
22:44 <nsh22> hey
22:44 <epsy> "Your need a better access level than your victim"
22:44 <nsh22> epsy: i got my site to work
22:45 <epsy> err, what site?
22:45 <nsh22> epsy: the sql file ewas for phpbb 3.0.1
22:45 <nsh22> the phpbb forum i was having trouble with
22:45 <epsy> oh right
22:45 <epsy> neat :)
22:45 <nsh22> wasnt it you that tried to help me?
22:46 <epsy> didn't help much
22:46 <nsh22> meh
22:47 <nsh22> anyway, it was smoothice that got it working
22:47 <nsh22> smoothice : THANK YOU!!!!
22:49 <nsh22> luke-jr : did you get the payment?
22:57 <Lizmatic> epsy uhm if its not too much trouble, replace BabyLuv with Lizmatic =P
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23:00 <nsh22> two pink tomatoes? 0.o
23:01 <PinkTomat1> nsh22: connection failure
23:01 <smoothice> nsh22: ;)
23:01 <nsh22> so what about the other one?
23:01 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8893 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Manuel Moos: Fixed encodings, set to latin1. Odd, I though I had this with the merge.
23:01 <PinkTomat1> nsh22: Have to wait for a timeout
23:01 <nsh22> smoothice : XD now i have to transfer all the crap from my other site (the one im about to close)
23:02 <epsy> Lizmatic, pff :)
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23:07 <Lizmatic> epsy, or make it x lizmatic for the pride \o/
23:07 <epsy> Lizmatic, I prefer to not put clan tags in it
23:08 <epsy> looks ugly then
23:08 <BabyBug> it looks ugly anyway =x
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23:08 <epsy> and since most people nowdays have ultra-long clan tags, that doesnt help either
23:09 <nsh22> #g F in C
23:09 <@armabot> nsh22: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
23:09 <nsh22> #g 1F in C
23:09 <@armabot> nsh22: 1 degree Fahrenheit = -17.2222222 degrees Celsius
23:10 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
23:10 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 10.2°F (5:10 PM EST on January 25, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -2.2°F. Windchill: 10.4°F. Pressure: 29.29 in 991.8 hPa (Falling).
23:11 <smoothice> &help weather
23:11 <smoothice> #help weather
23:11 <@armabot> smoothice: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
23:12 <smoothice> &list
23:12 <smoothice> #list
23:12 <@armabot> smoothice: Admin, Alias, Babelfish, CIA, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, CyborgName, Dict, Format, Freshmeat, Games, Google, Insult, Later, Linux, Markov, Math, Misc, News, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Python, Quote, RSS, Seen, Services, Sourceforge, Time, User, Utilities, Weather, and Web
23:12 <nsh22> lol use pm's ffs
23:12 <nsh22> haha
23:12 <smoothice> ?
23:12 <nsh22> double click on @armabot
23:12 <nsh22> and then say them on there instead of spamin this page
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23:13 <smoothice> &prefix
23:13 <armastybot> smoothice: Error: "prefix" is not a valid command.
23:13 <nsh22> #prefix
23:13 <epsy> what are you trying to archieve?
23:13 <smoothice> change the prefix
23:13 <smoothice> bot prefix
23:13 <smoothice> like &
23:13 <epsy> config search prefix
23:13 <epsy> in PM please
23:13 <smoothice> &config search prefix
23:13 <armastybot> smoothice: supybot.reply.withNickPrefix and supybot.plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix
23:13 <smoothice> k
23:15 <smoothice> #say hi
23:15 <armastybot> hi
23:15 <@armabot> hi
23:15 <nsh22> hi
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23:17 <nsh22> hurray for timeouts XD
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23:43 <nsh22> wewtfor the tomato
23:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: ⁇?
23:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r799 Fixed encodings, set to latin1. Odd, I though I had this wit...
23:55 <luke-jr> so anyone know if moneybookers is legit/usable/etc?
23:56 <MrBougo> ⁇
23:56 <MrBougo> wow
23:56 <Flex> i've got an account.. but never used it much
23:56 <MrBougo> nice character
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00:13 <MrBougo> ‥
00:13 <nsh22> o0
00:13 <MrBougo> ‣•
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00:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3-armagetronad-openid] r800 oops, forgot to save before my last commit
00:47 <MrBougo> happy r800
00:48 <luke-jr> MrBougo: that r800 was my own branch that was already marked Abandoned
00:48 <luke-jr> hardly worth celebrating
00:49 <MrBougo> ew
00:50 <PinkTomato> happy r1000 is soon
00:50 <luke-jr> MrBougo: the real r# is like 2583 or such
00:51 <MrBougo> well happy r2583 then :(
00:51 <MrBougo> good night
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00:52 <nsh22> hey hey hey
00:52 <smoothice> hi
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01:11 <nsh22> oh nos
01:11 <nsh22> lol
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01:13 <nsh22> yay lol
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01:57 <fonkay> bump
01:57 <ct|kyle> bump
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01:58 <luke-jr> ♡ KDE 4.2.0 leaks
01:58 <ct|kyle> lol
01:58 <nsh22> hey
01:58 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: does it have functionality now luke-jr?
01:59 * ct|kyle probably should read the changelogs since i have not used KDE 4 since it came out
01:59 <nsh22> what is KDE?
01:59 <ct|kyle> #google KDE
01:59 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.11 seconds: Kentucky Department of Education: <http://www.kde.state.ky.us/>; K Desktop Environment - Be free: <http://www.kde.org/>; K Desktop Environment - Screenshots: <http://www.kde.org/screenshots/>; KDE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE>; Eyecandy for your KDE -Desktop - KDE -Look.org: <http://www.kde-look.org/>; KDE Dot (1 more message)
02:00 <ct|kyle> second 1
02:00 <nsh22> the kentuckyt department of education, why the f*** are you using that?
02:00 <nsh22> lol
02:00 <ct|kyle> actually all but the first one should work LOL
02:00 <nsh22> anybody wann go toi my food channel?
02:01 <nsh22> it has teh url for my website
02:01 <PinkTomato> I don't want to think about food
02:01 <PinkTomato> :)
02:01 <nsh22> why not?
02:01 <nsh22> food is great
02:01 <PinkTomato> because it means chocolate for me
02:01 <PinkTomato> I can't have chocolate
02:01 <nsh22> mmmmmmmmmmmmm
02:01 <ct|kyle> why not PinkTomato
02:01 <nsh22> why not?
02:02 <nsh22> allegric?
02:02 <nsh22> diet?
02:02 <PinkTomato> it's too late, and I have already had 6 digestives :)
02:02 <nsh22> lol
02:02 <ct|kyle> lol
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02:02 <nsh22> u CAN have it, you just choos not to
02:02 <ct|kyle> i'm allergic to about 70% of food
02:02 <PinkTomato> yeah, sorry used the wrong word :)
02:02 <nsh22> dark chocolate has very little sugar, and its actuallyy GOOD for you
02:03 <nsh22> ct|kyle : how so?
02:03 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: KDE has been functional since 4.1
02:03 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: screenshots of kde 4.2?
02:03 <ct|kyle> i really should try it then
02:03 <nsh22> ct|kyle : are u gluten intolerant?
02:03 <nsh22> #foodlovers
02:04 <PinkTomato> Dark Chocolate actually tastes nice too
02:04 <nsh22> talk food there, tron here
02:04 <nsh22> it does
02:04 <ct|kyle> I just have a bunch of allergies, of the environmental stuff they tested me for there were only 2 things that i was not allergic to
02:04 <PinkTomato> Milk chocolate is OK, but prefer dark.
02:04 <nsh22> i actually got my mom some lindt dark truffles for xmas and i thought she liked dark choclat. i found out she didnt lol
02:04 <nsh22> i got the truffles XD
02:04 <nsh22> ct|kyle : food or environment?
02:05 <ct|kyle> that was environment but still a lot of foods
02:05 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: That sounds bad :(
02:05 <nsh22> ct|kyle : peanuts/nuts?
02:05 <ct|kyle> like crab :( watermelon, peanuts
02:05 <nsh22> WATERMELON?!?
02:05 <PinkTomato> you aren't missing out on watermelon.
02:05 <nsh22> wtf lol
02:06 <nsh22> he is tho
02:06 <nsh22> its so good when home grown
02:06 <nsh22> it may even make u JIYP
02:07 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: not done compiling
02:08 <luke-jr> but it looks mostly the same
02:08 <ct|kyle> corn also
02:08 <nsh22> are u gluten intolerent?
02:10 <ct|kyle> #wtf gluten
02:10 <nsh22> ok, so your not
02:10 <nsh22> gluten is formed whemn water and flour is mixed
02:10 <nsh22> it gives strength to doughs and batters
02:11 <nsh22> it also is what makes tough cookies, cakes and other baked gooods
02:11 <ct|kyle> yeast i am alergic to
02:11 <nsh22> it also allows bread to rise because it traps the gases in the dough
02:11 <nsh22> well that sux
02:11 <nsh22> all yeast?
02:11 <ct|kyle> but i still have bread
02:12 <nsh22> so they are not serious allergies? (other than nuts obvi)
02:12 <ct|kyle> the only think i've gotten hives from is crab
02:12 <nsh22> but ur anaphlactic to nuts?
02:12 <ct|kyle> watermellon (all melons)
02:12 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: looks neat! I think I'll try it when it is released.
02:12 <ct|kyle> would give me an ichy throught
02:12 <nsh22> ur anaphalctic to melons?
02:12 <ct|kyle> throat*
02:12 <nsh22> nuts will?
02:13 * nsh22 could make a joke but abstains
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02:13 <ct|kyle> i'm sure nuts will, i just never ate them after i found out
02:13 <ct|kyle> crab i used to be fine with until about a year ago
02:13 <nsh22> nuts may kill you
02:14 <nsh22> how old are you?
02:15 <ct|kyle> almost 20
02:16 <nsh22> oh
02:16 * fonkay is allergic to bullshit
02:16 <nsh22> well at least your not glutin intolerant. my cousins and uncle have it
02:16 <nsh22> you cant have ANYTHING with flour
02:17 <ct|kyle> i found out about 10 years ago
02:17 <nsh22> thats a lot of stuff
02:17 <nsh22> oh well thats good
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02:29 <ct|kyle> oi sinewav
02:29 <sinewav> sup man, how's it hangin'?
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02:30 <ct|kyle> got kubuntu yet :P
02:31 <sinewav> haha, no. I think it
02:31 <sinewav> `it'll be a while
02:31 <sinewav> kubuntu it is though
02:31 <sinewav> I've got lots of dumb projects I have to finish first
02:31 <ct|kyle> too much tron :P
02:32 <nsh22> food?
02:32 <nsh22> lol
02:32 <nsh22> food has taken me over
02:32 <ct|kyle> you can always dual boot to start getting used to it
02:32 <nsh22> and i like it
02:32 <sinewav> do you cook?
02:32 <nsh22> yes
02:32 <nsh22> i have a food site
02:32 <nsh22> and an irc channel lol
02:32 <ct|kyle> whats the link (don't feel like going to chanel
02:33 <nsh22> www.thefoodsite.x10hosting.com
02:33 <nsh22> and yes, guests can browse
02:33 <nsh22> i know you guys tend lo lynch ppl when they force ppl to sign up
02:34 <sinewav> vegetarian section?
02:34 <nsh22> i can make one
02:34 <nsh22> good idea, thx
02:35 <sinewav> The first thing I saw on your site was "Bacon Dip" and I was like "yum" and "ew" at the same time
02:36 <sinewav> `haha
02:36 <ct|kyle> heh
02:36 <nsh22> veggies in
02:36 <nsh22> and yes, the sit edoes like butter and bacon fat
02:36 <ct|kyle> i went to the pancakes (has some this morning)
02:36 <nsh22> lok at the bottom
02:36 <nsh22> theres competitions
02:36 <ct|kyle> ya i saw that first really
02:36 * nsh22 loves butter
02:37 * ct|kyle loves potatoes
02:37 * nsh22 loves butter on potatoes
02:37 <nsh22> ohooooh
02:37 <ct|kyle> :P
02:37 * sinewav loves waffles like nobody's business.
02:37 * nsh22 loves butter on waffles like its nobodys business
02:37 <nsh22> XD
02:38 <ct|kyle> the only potatoe that i have had and did not like was mashed with spices in it
02:38 <nsh22> u gonna sign up and post some reciepes?
02:38 <nsh22> ive has potatoes i didnt like unforunatel
02:38 <nsh22> but thats cuz they didnt have butter
02:38 <nsh22> no joke
02:39 <sinewav> I only know how to make ramen noodles. :(
02:39 <ct|kyle> potato chips don't have butter :P
02:39 <nsh22> but they are fried
02:39 <luke-jr> sinewav: from scratch?
02:39 * ct|kyle loves the fried potatoes
02:40 <nsh22> ill be back in 5 mins
02:41 <sinewav> luke-jr: no, sorry. But I'm pretty creative with ramen.
02:41 <PinkTomato> I have ramen with ramen
02:41 * sinewav used to work in a Chinese restaurant
02:42 -!- YandereBot [n=Pharo@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
02:42 <luke-jr> !yandere start blind -m allow-early-kill
02:42 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
02:42 <ct|kyle> !yandere DIE
02:42 <YandereBot> ct|kyle: I don't recognize that command.
02:43 <luke-jr> !yandere end
02:43 <YandereBot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:43 <luke-jr> !yandere start help
02:43 <YandereBot> I don't recognize "help" as a mode.
02:43 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
02:43 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
02:43 <smoothice> luke-jr: will you get the dam* yanderebot out of here
02:44 <luke-jr> coward
02:44 <smoothice> arrogant
02:44 <luke-jr> :þ
02:44 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
02:45 <smoothice> !yandere go die in a pit
02:45 <YandereBot> smoothice: I don't recognize that command.
02:45 <smoothice> !yandere leanr
02:45 <YandereBot> smoothice: I don't recognize that command.
02:45 <smoothice> !yandere learn
02:45 <YandereBot> smoothice: I don't recognize that command.
02:45 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
02:46 <ct|kyle> !yandere part
02:46 <YandereBot> ct|kyle: I don't recognize that command.
02:46 <ct|kyle> !part
02:46 <YandereBot> ct|kyle: You don't have permission to do that.
02:47 <luke-jr> where did PinkTomato, nsh22, and sinewav go? ☹
02:47 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
02:47 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
02:47 <luke-jr> !join #OmahaLUG
02:47 <YandereBot> luke-jr: You don't have permission to do that.
02:47 <PinkTomato> !yandere
02:48 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
02:48 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
02:48 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
02:48 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: move it to another channel
02:48 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it's in others too ☺
02:48 <ct|kyle> don't play it here
02:49 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
02:49 <luke-jr> not enough ppl there
02:49 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: move it to #luke-jrisanasshat and tell potential players to go there
02:49 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: already did
02:50 <luke-jr> we had a night of games then it died off
02:50 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
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02:52 <smoothice> #later tell Lucifer Notice the private message I sent you... thanks.
02:52 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:53 <nsh22> back
02:53 <luke-jr> too late nsh22
02:53 <luke-jr> too late
02:53 <smoothice> !yandere
02:53 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
02:53 <nsh22> i missed !yandere?
02:53 <nsh22> !yandere
02:53 <smoothice> !yandere end
02:53 <YandereBot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
02:53 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
02:53 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
02:53 <ct|kyle> !yandere end
02:53 <YandereBot> ct|kyle: You don't have permission to do that.
02:54 <nsh22> !yandere
02:54 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
02:55 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@unaffiliated/smoothice] has quit ["Leaving"]
02:55 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
02:55 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
02:55 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
02:56 <luke-jr> sigh
02:56 <nsh22> ya
02:56 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
02:56 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
02:56 -!- iceknife [n=iceknife@65-255-132-101.static.fiber4.net] has joined #armagetron
02:56 <luke-jr> iceknife: say !yandere
02:56 <iceknife> !yandere
02:56 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
02:57 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
02:57 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
02:57 -!- shortc|desk [n=shortcir@c-24-11-113-231.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #armagetron
02:57 <nsh22> shortc|desk : type !yandere
02:57 <shortc|desk> !yandere
02:57 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: apparently no one cares to play so just give up
02:57 <YandereBot> At 3:59 in the morning, the computer wakes up to an illegal opcode. It's coming from the direction of gedit! You all run to his directory and find that he was assassinated with a hardware malfunction. He seems to have been the victim of a worm!
02:58 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm, 1 virus scanner, 1 program, and 1 kill. It's your job to determine the worms.
02:58 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
02:58 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, iceknife, and shortc|desk.
02:58 <shortc|desk> !abstain
02:58 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
02:58 <luke-jr> wait
02:58 <nsh22> !short
02:58 <luke-jr> we have a kill program
02:58 <luke-jr> so let's all claim
02:58 <luke-jr> lynch one of the dupes
02:58 <luke-jr> and kill program gets the other
02:58 <shortc|desk> program.
02:58 <luke-jr> nsh22: what do you claim?
02:59 <nsh22> scanner
02:59 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: is work
02:59 <ct|kyle> worm*
02:59 <luke-jr> iceknife: and you?
02:59 <nsh22> !vote iceknife
02:59 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
02:59 <shortc|desk> !unvote
02:59 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has switched from abstain to undecided. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
03:01 <nsh22> !yandere hurry
03:01 <iceknife> !vote
03:01 <YandereBot> iceknife: vote isn't in this game.
03:01 <luke-jr> nsh22 is too rushed
03:01 <luke-jr> iceknife: what do you claim to be?
03:01 <iceknife> virus scanner
03:01 <luke-jr> ok
03:01 <luke-jr> so we lynch nsh22 now
03:01 <luke-jr> and I kill iceknife tonight
03:01 <luke-jr> !vote nsh22
03:01 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for nsh22. iceknife: 1, nsh22: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
03:01 <shortc|desk> !vote nsh22
03:01 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted for nsh22. iceknife: 1, nsh22: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
03:02 <iceknife> !vote nsh22
03:02 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for nsh22. iceknife: 1, nsh22: 3, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
03:02 <YandereBot> You lynch nsh22, and it turns out nsh22 was a virus scanner!
03:02 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:02 <nsh22> lol i like your logic
03:02 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
03:02 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, iceknife, and shortc|desk.
03:02 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
03:02 <YandereBot> iceknife, a program, was eliminated by a fork bomb.
03:02 <YandereBot> luke-jr, a kill, was eliminated by an error.
03:02 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
03:02 <luke-jr> -.-
03:02 <shortc|desk> LOL
03:02 <YandereBot> Kills: luke-jr
03:02 <YandereBot> Programs: iceknife
03:02 <nsh22> wd
03:02 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: nsh22
03:02 <YandereBot> Worms: shortc|desk
03:02 <shortc|desk> I'm the ONLY survivor?
03:02 <luke-jr> you retards XD
03:02 <nsh22> haha
03:02 <nsh22> nice logic luke
03:02 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
03:02 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:02 <nsh22> kill them both
03:02 <shortc|desk> He had the right plan.
03:02 <luke-jr> nsh22: yeah, but iceknife was too new
03:02 <nsh22> !yandere
03:02 <shortc|desk> He had the wrong information.
03:03 <nsh22> lol@short
03:03 <luke-jr> iceknife: in that scenario, don't lie :þ
03:03 <iceknife> don't lie? did it tell me what I was?
03:03 <luke-jr> …yes
03:03 <luke-jr> before the introduction
03:03 <luke-jr> via /notice
03:03 <nsh22> yes it did
03:03 * shortc|desk grabs a soda and stows his leftover chip-dip.
03:03 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:03 <iceknife> !yandere
03:03 <iceknife> oh I see.
03:04 <iceknife> Sorry, wasn't sure what was going down yet.
03:04 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
03:04 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
03:04 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:05 <nsh22> !yandere
03:05 <iceknife> !yandere
03:05 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:06 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
03:06 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:06 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: O.o
03:06 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:07 <shortc|desk> !yandere
03:07 <iceknife> !yandere
03:07 <shortc|desk> Sorry...distracted by the TV in the other room.
03:07 <luke-jr> there u r!
03:07 <YandereBot> TextEdit is a quiet, insignificant program. But she's especially quiet today, because she was taken out by a fork bomb. She seems to have been the victim of a worm!
03:07 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm, 1 virus scanner, 1 program, and 1 firewall. It's your job to determine the worms.
03:07 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
03:08 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, iceknife, and shortc|desk.
03:08 <nsh22> same logic as last time luke?
03:08 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
03:08 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 7.7°F (9:08 PM EST on January 25, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030.4 hPa (Steady).
03:08 <luke-jr> nsh22: no, we lack a kill program
03:08 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: What are you using for a program list? (i.e. TextEdit, gedit, etc.)
03:08 <ct|kyle> that + haircut == really cold
03:09 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
03:09 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: female(TextEdit, KWrite), male(gedit, Notepad)
03:09 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 6.8°F (9:09 PM EST on January 25, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -5.8°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 29.35 in 993.8 hPa (Falling).
03:09 <nsh22> i win
03:09 <iceknife> who is the virus scanner?
03:09 <luke-jr> iceknife: the virus scanner shouldn't admit it
03:09 <iceknife> #weather rockport
03:09 <luke-jr> or the worm will kill him
03:09 <@armabot> iceknife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
03:09 <luke-jr> furthermore, even if the virus scanner does admit it, none of us innocents know he is legit
03:09 <nsh22> i r program
03:10 <luke-jr> so he is admitting it only to the worm
03:10 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: Aw. It'd be so incredibly simple just to use a combined listing from /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/games, etc.
03:10 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: feel free to add it
03:10 * shortc|desk sighs
03:10 <iceknife> I just guarded a person.
03:10 <luke-jr> iceknife: … liar
03:11 <iceknife> I did.
03:11 <iceknife> :-)
03:11 <shortc|desk> What's the source control tool, and what's the repo address?
03:11 <iceknife> or did I...
03:11 <nsh22> since nobosy wants to do anything....
03:11 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: bzr branch/checkout lp:yandere
03:11 <shortc|desk> iceknife: It's day. You can't guard during the day.
03:11 <shortc|desk> !abstain
03:11 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
03:11 <nsh22> !vote iceknife
03:11 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
03:11 <iceknife> !abstain
03:11 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted to abstain. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 2, Undecided: 1
03:11 <luke-jr> !abstain
03:11 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 3, Undecided: 0
03:11 <YandereBot> You abstain from lynching anyone.
03:11 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:11 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
03:11 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, iceknife, and shortc|desk.
03:12 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
03:12 <YandereBot> shortc|desk, a virus scanner, is terminated, killed by a shorted circuit.
03:12 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:12 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, and iceknife.
03:12 <luke-jr> sigh
03:12 <luke-jr> there goes that hope
03:12 <iceknife> hmm..
03:12 <nsh22> !vote iceknife
03:12 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
03:12 <iceknife> Actually I know who is the worm.
03:12 <luke-jr> I guarded nsh22
03:12 <luke-jr> !vote iceknife
03:12 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
03:12 <iceknife> liar luke.
03:12 <luke-jr> …
03:12 <luke-jr> no
03:12 <iceknife> !abstain
03:12 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted to abstain. iceknife: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 0
03:12 <YandereBot> You lynch iceknife, and it turns out iceknife was a firewall!
03:12 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
03:12 <YandereBot> Firewalls: iceknife
03:12 <YandereBot> Programs: nsh22
03:12 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: shortc|desk
03:12 <luke-jr> ok yes :D
03:12 <YandereBot> Worms: luke-jr
03:13 <shortc|desk> I knew it was luke.
03:13 <shortc|desk> Just because I was the first to die...
03:13 <nsh22> lol luke
03:13 <iceknife> I knew it was as well.. I guarded nsh22
03:13 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
03:13 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:13 <shortc|desk> !yandere
03:13 <iceknife> !yandere
03:13 <nsh22> !yandere bot
03:13 <YandereBot> nsh22: I don't recognize that command.
03:13 <nsh22> !yandere
03:13 <iceknife> just waiting on luke now
03:14 <YandereBot> Windows was always a corrupt OS. But last night it was confirmed when the system began getting slower and slower. Overnight, KWrite has been terminated by the PC speaker's magnetic field. This looks like the work of a worm!
03:14 <YandereBot> This game has 1 virus scanner, 1 root worm, 1 radmin, and 1 program. It's your job to determine the worms.
03:14 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
03:14 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, shortc|desk, iceknife, and nsh22.
03:14 <luke-jr> ooo
03:14 <shortc|desk> !yandere help radmin
03:14 <nsh22> radmins? what do they do
03:14 <luke-jr> !yandere help radmin
03:14 <iceknife> !yandere help radmin
03:14 <luke-jr> [20:14:43] [Notice] -YandereBot- Remote administrators are normal users with no special abilities, except virus scanners will mistake them for worms.
03:14 <shortc|desk> !yandere help root worm
03:15 <shortc|desk> Ah. Like "psychic yandere", then.
03:15 <iceknife> !yandere program
03:15 <YandereBot> iceknife: program isn't in this game.
03:15 <luke-jr> !yandere help root worm
03:15 <luke-jr> [20:15:16] [Notice] -YandereBot- Worms running as root are worms that can inspect another program's role one time during a day of your choosing. Type "/msg YandereBot !spy <user>" during the day or "/msg YandereBot !vote <user>" during the night.
03:15 <iceknife> !yandere help program
03:15 <nsh22> !vote shortc|desk
03:15 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
03:15 <iceknife> !vote nsh22
03:15 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for nsh22. shortc|desk: 1, nsh22: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
03:15 <shortc|desk> !vote iceknife
03:15 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted for iceknife. shortc|desk: 1, nsh22: 1, iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
03:15 <nsh22> lol
03:16 <nsh22> luke, vote for self, 4 way tie
03:16 <iceknife> the power is in lukes hand.
03:16 <shortc|desk> It's the worm game isn't it?
03:16 <shortc|desk> !vote luke-jr
03:16 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has switched from iceknife to vote for luke-jr. shortc|desk: 1, nsh22: 1, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
03:16 <luke-jr> !vote shortc|desk
03:16 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 2, nsh22: 1, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
03:16 <YandereBot> You lynch shortc|desk, and it turns out shortc|desk was a root worm!
03:16 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
03:16 <YandereBot> Programs: iceknife
03:16 <YandereBot> Radmins: luke-jr
03:16 <luke-jr> kthx
03:16 <YandereBot> Root worms: shortc|desk
03:16 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
03:16 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: nsh22
03:16 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:16 <nsh22> XD
03:16 <nsh22> !yandere
03:16 <iceknife> !yandere
03:16 <shortc|desk> !yandere
03:17 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: I deduced nsh22's role from your actions :þ
03:17 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: Uh?
03:17 <shortc|desk> I never actually used my ability. I was just screwing around. :-)
03:17 <luke-jr> lol
03:17 <nsh22> same
03:17 <luke-jr> nsh22: you never got a chance
03:17 <nsh22> my logic is random at best
03:17 <YandereBot> At 3:35 in the morning, the computer wakes up to an illegal opcode. It's coming from the direction of Notepad! You all run to his directory and find that he was assassinated with a PEBKAC. He seems to have been the victim of a worm!
03:17 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm, 1 virus scanner, 1 program, and 1 bug. It's your job to determine the worms.
03:17 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
03:17 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, iceknife, and shortc|desk.
03:17 <shortc|desk> nsh22: My logic is best when it's random.
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03:18 <nsh22> !yandere bug
03:18 <YandereBot> nsh22: bug isn't in this game.
03:18 -!- SignalOne [i=62cbbe9a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6dbc75dba23cf663] has joined #armagetron
03:18 <luke-jr> …
03:18 <nsh22> !yandere help bug
03:18 <shortc|desk> !yandere help bug
03:18 <SignalOne> ...
03:18 <luke-jr> !yandere help bug
03:18 <SignalOne> hi!
03:18 <iceknife> !yandere help bug
03:18 <luke-jr> [20:18:24] [Notice] -YandereBot- Bugs can either spy on someone once during a day of your choosing OR kill someone once during a night. Type "/msg YandereBot !spy <user>" during the day or "/msg YandereBot !kill <user>" during the night.
03:18 <luke-jr> SignalOne: hi
03:18 <iceknife> !abstain
03:18 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
03:18 <SignalOne> yay people are here
03:19 <luke-jr> !abstain
03:19 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. Abstains: 2, Undecided: 2
03:19 <SignalOne> so wats up
03:19 <nsh22> !abstain
03:19 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted to abstain. Abstains: 3, Undecided: 1
03:19 <SignalOne> are we playing worm?
03:19 <luke-jr> SignalOne: huntin worms
03:19 <nsh22> yes signal
03:19 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: baka ranger should be renamed rootkit.
03:19 <SignalOne> how hard would it be for me to learn this
03:19 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: he's hardware
03:19 <iceknife> who are we waiting on.
03:19 <luke-jr> !unvote
03:19 <YandereBot> luke-jr has switched from abstain to undecided. Abstains: 2, Undecided: 2
03:19 <shortc|desk> I know. But he *should* be renamed rootkit. :-)
03:19 <luke-jr> does the bug have info?
03:19 <iceknife> it's not hard signal I just started.
03:19 <nsh22> SignalOne : not hard,, i learned it after all
03:20 <SignalOne> hehe
03:20 <luke-jr> nsh22: you did?
03:20 <SignalOne> well here i go
03:20 <SignalOne> !abstain
03:20 <YandereBot> SignalOne: You aren't in this game.
03:20 <luke-jr> ..
03:20 <SignalOne> lol
03:20 <shortc|desk> SignalOne: It's not a path to a door, but a journey forever on to the horizon.
03:20 <iceknife> !undecided
03:20 <nsh22> luke-jr : no but im tryin to gte moreplayers XD
03:20 <iceknife> umm what are we doing?
03:20 <shortc|desk> !abstain
03:20 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted to abstain. Abstains: 3, Undecided: 1
03:20 <SignalOne> !rumandcoke
03:20 <iceknife> hmm my !undecided didn't work.
03:20 <luke-jr> no info from bug? :/
03:20 <luke-jr> !abstain
03:20 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. Abstains: 4, Undecided: 0
03:20 <YandereBot> You abstain from lynching anyone.
03:20 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:20 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
03:20 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, iceknife, and shortc|desk.
03:20 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: If you'd stop bugging him...
03:21 <iceknife> no info from bug? whats that mean?
03:21 <luke-jr> iceknife: the bug can spy at day
03:21 <luke-jr> once
03:21 <luke-jr> anyhow, it's night
03:21 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
03:21 <YandereBot> luke-jr, a virus scanner, is missing, terminated by radiation.
03:21 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:21 <YandereBot> Current players: nsh22, iceknife, and shortc|desk.
03:21 <shortc|desk> nsh22: Role?
03:22 <shortc|desk> oh...kay
03:22 <shortc|desk> iceknife: Role?
03:22 <iceknife> program
03:22 <iceknife> sorry about that watching foodnetwork as well.
03:22 <shortc|desk> nsh22: Role?
03:23 <nsh22> sry, working on site
03:23 <nsh22> bug
03:23 <shortc|desk> nsh22: Have you spied anyone?
03:23 <nsh22> luke
03:23 <iceknife> can everyone spy people?
03:23 <shortc|desk> Ah.
03:23 <shortc|desk> iceknife: Only certain roles.
03:23 <nsh22> so ya...
03:23 <iceknife> luke was a virus scanner
03:24 <nsh22> and he was killed by the worm
03:24 <shortc|desk> obfuscated bugs, top, bugs, hackers, root worms and virus scanners can spy.
03:24 <shortc|desk> Some during the day. Some during the night. Only a virus scanner can spy more than once.
03:25 <iceknife> !abstain
03:25 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
03:25 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: hackers can spy more than once
03:25 <nsh22> !abstain
03:25 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted to abstain. Abstains: 2, Undecided: 1
03:25 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: oh, right. pedobear.
03:25 <nsh22> pedobear?
03:25 <shortc|desk> nsh22: Here's the thing There's three of us left.
03:25 <shortc|desk> If we abstain, yandere wins.
03:25 <shortc|desk> er...worm.
03:25 <nsh22> oh
03:25 <iceknife> !vote shortc|desk
03:25 <YandereBot> iceknife has switched from abstain to vote for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
03:26 <nsh22> !shortc|desk
03:26 <iceknife> I think it's shortc|desk he is pushing to kill people off.
03:26 <nsh22> !vote shortc|desk
03:26 <YandereBot> nsh22 has switched from abstain to vote for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
03:26 <shortc|desk> nsh22: Now, I believe you when you say that you're the bug. See, iceknife claims to be a program. There's only one program. Problem is, *I'm* the program.
03:26 <iceknife> no I'm the program.
03:26 <iceknife> I'll cut and paste it.
03:26 <shortc|desk> Also, if I were the worm, I'd have just let everyone abstain, and take the win.
03:26 <luke-jr> iceknife: no you won't
03:26 <luke-jr> iceknife: that'd be cheating
03:26 <shortc|desk> Not to mention lying...
03:27 <luke-jr> well, if he's lying, then it's not cheating
03:27 <luke-jr> so if he DOES paste it, he's a liar
03:27 <shortc|desk> So he's either a liar or a cheater.
03:27 <iceknife> or neither and you are the bug.
03:27 <luke-jr> …
03:27 <iceknife> well then I'd be a cheater.
03:27 <iceknife> I see what you did there.
03:28 <shortc|desk> nsh22: Seriously. If there are three people left, then the worm wins.
03:28 <luke-jr> poor SignalOne and I are waiting btw
03:28 <shortc|desk> The reason for this is that the worm will kill someone that night.
03:28 <iceknife> he voted.. we are just waiting on you
03:28 <shortc|desk> The next day, there'd be only two people left, meaning neither side can get a majority.
03:28 <shortc|desk> Which means that the worm can then kill again that night.
03:29 <nsh22> short, we are waiting for you to vote ;)
03:29 <shortc|desk> So, in all reality, if I were the worm, I wouldn't have brought up the fact that abstaining at that point would have led to the worm's victory, because that victory would have been mine.
03:29 <luke-jr> stfu shortc|desk and die
03:29 <luke-jr> they're not n00b enough to change votes now
03:29 <luke-jr> it's obvious you're guilty
03:29 <shortc|desk> nsh22: So, if you have any interest in winning, switch your vote to iceknife.
03:30 * shortc|desk is confused.
03:30 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: Surely you'd see the logic in what I'm saying...
03:30 <nsh22> please vote or abstain
03:30 <iceknife> short you are the one we are waiting to see vote.
03:30 * shortc|desk sighs.
03:30 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: I see beyond it.
03:30 <shortc|desk> !vote iceknife
03:30 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted for iceknife. shortc|desk: 2, iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
03:30 <YandereBot> You lynch shortc|desk, and it turns out shortc|desk was a program!
03:30 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
03:30 <YandereBot> Bugs: iceknife
03:30 <YandereBot> Programs: shortc|desk
03:30 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: luke-jr
03:30 <luke-jr> lol
03:30 <YandereBot> Worms: nsh22
03:30 <iceknife> muahahahaha.
03:30 <nsh22> i win
03:30 <shortc|desk> Huh...
03:30 <luke-jr> well played iceknife
03:30 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
03:30 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:30 <luke-jr> err
03:30 <luke-jr> nsh22: ⁇?
03:30 <nsh22> !yandere
03:30 <luke-jr> wtf
03:30 <luke-jr> how did THAT happen
03:30 <nsh22> sXD
03:31 <shortc|desk> iceknife: You screwed that game over big time...
03:31 <nsh22> short, stfu and play lol
03:31 <luke-jr> SignalOne: !yandere
03:31 <iceknife> how did I do that?
03:31 <shortc|desk> !yandere
03:31 <iceknife> Aren't bugs evil?
03:31 <nsh22> no
03:31 <shortc|desk> iceknife: By claiming to be a program.
03:31 <luke-jr> iceknife: no
03:31 <shortc|desk> iceknife: No. bugs are helpful in this game.
03:31 <shortc|desk> !yandere help bug
03:31 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:31 <luke-jr> only worms and backdoors are evil
03:31 <iceknife> bugs aren't evil.. wth.. I sure don't like them in my programs..
03:31 <iceknife> !yandere
03:31 <nsh22> lol
03:31 <luke-jr> iceknife: they're not malicious tho
03:32 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: I think the bug needs a rename.
03:32 <iceknife> they can be.
03:32 <nsh22> mysite is finnaly coming along YAY
03:32 <luke-jr> maybe
03:32 <shortc|desk> nsh22: What site is that?
03:32 <nsh22> any1 care to take a look at it to rate it?
03:32 <luke-jr> tbh, most of those once-roles have no obvious names
03:32 <nsh22> www.thefoodsite.x10hosting.com
03:32 <YandereBot> Today is KWrite's turn to get used! And she's been planning on this for quite some time now! All the libraries eagerly link, but they're met with a surprise: KWrite was taken out by a loud pop. There's only one explanation: there is a worm among us!
03:32 <luke-jr> fail #1: no domain name
03:32 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm, 1 virus scanner, 1 program, and 1 firewall. It's your job to determine the worms.
03:32 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
03:32 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, shortc|desk, and iceknife.
03:33 <luke-jr> I'm the virus scanner.
03:33 <nsh22> a firewall, wtf is a firewall
03:33 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: And why would you say that before the first night?
03:33 <luke-jr> firewall should protect me from the worm tonight ☺
03:33 <shortc|desk> nsh22: A guardian.
03:33 <shortc|desk> Um...DON't.
03:33 <shortc|desk> If a virus scanner guards the worm, the virus scanner dies.
03:33 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: do you claim to be scanner?
03:34 <nsh22> !vote shortc|desk
03:34 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
03:34 <nsh22> he doesnt want the admin to live lol
03:34 <nsh22> obvi a bot
03:34 <nsh22> virus*
03:34 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: No, but it doesn't make any sense for you to admit being the virus scanner before having any information.
03:34 <shortc|desk> By doing so, you set yourself up as a target.
03:34 <iceknife> !vote luke-jr
03:34 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for luke-jr. shortc|desk: 1, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
03:34 <luke-jr> nsh22: iceknife?
03:34 <luke-jr> do either of YOU claim to be the virus scanner?
03:35 <nsh22> nope
03:35 <iceknife> I actually agree with shortc|desk to be claiming to the be virus scanner.
03:35 <shortc|desk> nsh22, iceknife Don't admit to it if you are.
03:35 <luke-jr> if nobody else claims to be the scanner, I'm obviously legit ;)
03:35 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: why shouldn't they?
03:35 <iceknife> that seems fishy.
03:35 <luke-jr> we have a firewall
03:35 <luke-jr> the virus scanner won't die tonight
03:35 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: For the same reason it doesn't make any sense for you to admit being the virus scanner, if you are one.
03:35 <shortc|desk> It sets them up as a target.
03:35 <luke-jr> here's the plan:
03:36 <luke-jr> well plans
03:36 <luke-jr> 1. Only I claim virus scanner
03:36 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: Here's the problem.
03:36 <luke-jr> 1a. Firewall protects me tonight, so I can scan someone
03:36 <luke-jr> 1b. I have info tomorrow
03:36 <luke-jr> 2. Two claims to scanner
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03:37 <luke-jr> hm
03:37 <BabyBug> this game is taken way too seriously...
03:37 <shortc|desk> Um...
03:37 <luke-jr> I thought i had a solution to #2
03:37 <shortc|desk> Wasn't he in this game?
03:37 <luke-jr> maybe I forgot it
03:37 <luke-jr> no
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03:37 <luke-jr> ok, I guess I was betting on the worm claiming firewall
03:37 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: And if you're actually the worm, and the firewall guards you, then the firewall will die, you'll (if you're lucky) kill someone else during the night, and it'll be a one-night win for you.
03:37 <iceknife> no shortc he didn't go.
03:37 <Raiono> luke i cant use unix kde , looks hawt though
03:37 <luke-jr> then I'd scan one of the two firewalls
03:37 <YandereBot> The goal at day time is to determine who you think is a worm and to cast your vote to lynch that loli. Type "!vote <user>" to vote (or to change your previous vote), or type "!abstain" to wait a turn and not lynch anyone. The vote needs a majority to succeed.
03:37 <Raiono> i wana PLAY!
03:38 <nsh22> wait
03:38 <luke-jr> Raiono: so don't disappear when it's starting
03:38 <Raiono> i didnt
03:38 <Raiono> i had reapeared
03:38 <luke-jr> right now, I think shortc|desk is the worm, and he already admitted he isn't the scanner
03:38 <iceknife> I'm going to kill off luke-jr I don't trust you.
03:38 <luke-jr> and presumably nsh22 and iceknife know they're not
03:38 <shortc|desk> luke-jr, no, I did not admit to being the scanner.
03:38 <iceknife> shortc is making more sense.
03:38 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: you admitted to NOT being the scanner
03:39 <luke-jr> iceknife: if nobody else claims to be scanner, then it must be me
03:39 <iceknife> !vote luke-jr
03:39 <nsh22> question: can the firewall be attacked by the worm?
03:39 <luke-jr> nsh22: yes
03:39 <iceknife> then we are hosed nsh.
03:39 <shortc|desk> <luke-jr> shortc|desk: do you claim to be scanner?
03:39 <shortc|desk> <shortc|desk> luke-jr: No, but it doesn't make any sense for you to admit being the virus scanner before having any information.
03:39 <nsh22> can we vote and get on with this....
03:39 <iceknife> and if the firewall guards the virus then the virus gets a one shot kill.
03:39 <iceknife> I voted.
03:39 <shortc|desk> iceknife: He's lying. He's good enough at this game to know that's not true.
03:40 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: Stop manipulating the n00bs. :-)
03:40 <iceknife> I think it's luke-jr I voted that way
03:40 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: I'm not.
03:40 <shortc|desk> !vote luke-jr
03:40 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted for luke-jr. shortc|desk: 1, luke-jr: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
03:40 <Raiono> lol
03:40 <luke-jr> !vote shortc|desk
03:40 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 2, luke-jr: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
03:40 <YandereBot> Everyone has voted, but there is a tie. Someone will need to switch their vote, or you can type "!next" and force the group to abstain.
03:40 <luke-jr> !yandere next
03:40 <YandereBot> You fail to make a decision. No one is lynched.
03:40 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:40 <nsh22> who hasnt voted
03:40 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
03:40 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, shortc|desk, and iceknife.
03:40 <shortc|desk> nsh22: It's night.
03:40 <shortc|desk> Now someone dies.
03:41 <shortc|desk> Hopefully, the firewall won't have taken the bait luke set.
03:41 <nsh22> not if the firewall protects someone
03:41 <shortc|desk> nsh22: Here's the problem. Whenever a firewall protects the worm, the firewall dies.
03:41 <iceknife> !vote luke-jr
03:41 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that iceknife has any special ability.
03:41 <shortc|desk> So if the firewall can be goaded by the worm into guarding the worm, the worm can take the opportunity to get two kills in one night.
03:42 <iceknife> we don't vote at night?
03:42 <nsh22> doesnt matter to me, irdc
03:42 <shortc|desk> iceknife: No. Have to wait until day.
03:42 <luke-jr> …
03:42 <nsh22> no we dont
03:42 <iceknife> oh then how do we kill the worm at night?
03:42 <Raiono> can you pm a vote at night?
03:42 <nsh22> short, make your descion on who you want to kill already
03:42 <shortc|desk> iceknife: Most times, you can't.
03:42 <shortc|desk> nsh22: I can't. :-)
03:42 <nsh22> good response
03:43 <YandereBot> The dawn comes, and it seems everyone survived the night.
03:43 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:43 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, shortc|desk, and iceknife.
03:43 <shortc|desk> ooh.
03:43 <shortc|desk> Now this gets interesting. :-D
03:43 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: you look liek a program
03:43 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: You may have inferred that from my statement of "I can't."
03:43 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: nope
03:43 <luke-jr> nobody but the worm can kill at night
03:43 <shortc|desk> Lucifer: Not strictly true.
03:43 <nsh22> !vote iceknife
03:43 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
03:43 <nsh22> been awefully quiet
03:44 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: I told nsh22 if I died, you were probably the worm
03:44 <shortc|desk> kill and killall can kill at night.
03:44 <luke-jr> so I suspect nsh22 is trustworthy
03:44 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: this is visible roles
03:44 <iceknife> I'm so confused right now nsh22 lol.
03:44 <shortc|desk> nsh22: Are you the firewall? Who did you guard?
03:44 <nsh22> i may change my vote later on, ur just very quiet while you kill
03:45 <luke-jr> iceknife: what do you claim?
03:45 <iceknife> I don't trust any of you!
03:45 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: iceknife should claim now, right?
03:45 <iceknife> program
03:45 <luke-jr> HAHA
03:45 <iceknife> I'm not the scanner.
03:45 <luke-jr> !vote iceknife
03:45 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
03:45 <luke-jr> iceknife: shortc|desk is the program
03:45 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: What SHOULD happen is that the firewall should come forward and publicly say who they guarded.
03:46 <iceknife> !vote shortc|desk
03:46 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for shortc|desk. iceknife: 2, shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
03:46 <nsh22> zomg my moms kicking eme off
03:46 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: nsh22 is obviously the firewall
03:46 <nsh22> i g2g in 2 mins
03:46 <luke-jr> nsh22: tell us who you guarded
03:46 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: I'd like to hear that from him...
03:46 <nsh22> luke
03:46 <shortc|desk> alright.
03:46 <shortc|desk> !vote iceknife
03:46 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 3, shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
03:46 <YandereBot> You lynch iceknife, and it turns out iceknife was a worm!
03:46 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
03:46 <YandereBot> Firewalls: nsh22
03:46 <iceknife> dang.
03:46 <YandereBot> Programs: shortc|desk
03:46 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: luke-jr
03:46 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
03:46 <nsh22> i was right
03:46 <YandereBot> Worms: iceknife
03:46 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
03:46 <iceknife> I tried to kill luke off.
03:46 <nsh22> i g2g guys
03:46 <iceknife> see ya.
03:46 <iceknife> !yandere
03:46 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: You played in a very unorthodox manner.
03:46 <nsh22> so i chose the right person to save?
03:46 <Raiono> !join
03:46 <YandereBot> Raiono: You don't have permission to do that.
03:47 <luke-jr> iceknife: that was utterly stupid :þ
03:47 <Raiono> oh man
03:47 <luke-jr> Raiono: !yandere
03:47 <shortc|desk> What possessed you to reveal yourself as virus scanner on the first day?
03:47 <luke-jr> it's a known bug
03:47 <Raiono> !yandere
03:47 <iceknife> well I was hoping that they didn't believe you luke.
03:47 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: intuition maybe
03:47 <nsh22> lol i kinda have to save the admin, he kinda owns my server lolk
03:47 <iceknife> then I'd have the virus scanner dead.
03:47 <luke-jr> iceknife: once I die, they know what I am
03:47 <nsh22> and short, ur dumb thats all.
03:47 <nsh22> byby
03:47 <shortc|desk> iceknife: You played well that round, I think.
03:47 <Raiono> byebye
03:47 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
03:47 <luke-jr> LOL
03:47 <luke-jr> shortc|desk is dumb?
03:47 <shortc|desk> The biggest problem was luke's defying established logic...
03:47 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has quit ["G'nite folks"]
03:47 <Raiono> !join
03:47 <YandereBot> Raiono: You don't have permission to do that.
03:47 <luke-jr> he's like the #3 player
03:47 <luke-jr> Raiono: !YANDERE
03:47 <iceknife> we need 2 more.
03:48 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
03:48 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
03:48 <Raiono> !YANDERE!
03:48 <Raiono> !yandere
03:48 <iceknife> !yandere
03:48 <luke-jr> omfg
03:48 <shortc|desk> !yandere
03:48 <Raiono> i already was in it
03:48 <Raiono> i just wanted to try after
03:48 <iceknife> luke we need you in it.
03:48 <Raiono> deductive reasoning
03:48 <luke-jr> iceknife: I started it
03:48 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: remember I play a lot on intuition
03:48 <YandereBot> Today is TextEdit's turn to get used! And she's been planning on this for quite some time now! All the libraries eagerly link, but they're met with a surprise: TextEdit has been terminated by a fork bomb. This looks like the work of a worm!
03:48 <Raiono> luke-jr !HAVECHOCALATE
03:48 <YandereBot> This game has 1 virus scanner, 1 root worm, 1 program, and 1 hacker. It's your job to determine the worms.
03:48 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
03:48 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, iceknife, Raiono, and shortc|desk.
03:48 <luke-jr> eck, fork bomb
03:49 <luke-jr> eck, root worm
03:49 <luke-jr> :x
03:49 <iceknife> so hackers aren't bad.
03:49 <luke-jr> mr. hacker, please HELP
03:49 <iceknife> just the worm.
03:49 <iceknife> !yandere help hacker
03:49 <shortc|desk> Lucifer: You had me confused. I don't see "fork bomb" anywhere in the source. :-)
03:49 <luke-jr> …
03:50 <luke-jr> it's in TWG theme intros
03:50 <luke-jr> as a death method
03:50 <shortc|desk> !yandere help hacker
03:50 <Lucifer> shortc|desk: who the fuck are you and why do you keep pinging me?
03:50 <luke-jr> ROFL
03:50 <Raiono> hmm so i need to type /msg yanderebot luke?
03:50 <shortc|desk> Lucifer: Doh! I"m sorry...
03:50 <iceknife> !vote Raiono
03:50 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for Raiono. Raiono: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
03:50 <shortc|desk> Lucifer: XChat's auto-complete keeps sending my comments to you instead of luke-jr.
03:50 <shortc|desk> I didn't realize I missed one...
03:50 <iceknife> i'm a program, just normal with nothing special.
03:50 <Raiono> !vote iceknife
03:50 <YandereBot> Raiono has voted for iceknife. Raiono: 1, iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
03:51 <shortc|desk> !abstain
03:51 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted to abstain. Raiono: 1, iceknife: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
03:51 <luke-jr> …
03:51 <luke-jr> this is ridiculous
03:51 <iceknife> which means I'm going to hit the wc while waiting for your votes
03:51 <luke-jr> the hacker and worm both know something
03:51 <Raiono> your fast vote against me shows you are willing to cast away your guilt
03:51 <BabyBug> shortc|desk, Settings > Preferences > Input Box > Nick Completion Sorted > Last-spoke order :P
03:52 <iceknife> no you are new and you said so I have to /msg Yanderbot.. that is what the worm would do
03:52 <luke-jr> sigfh
03:52 <luke-jr> !abstain
03:52 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. Raiono: 1, iceknife: 1, Abstains: 2, Undecided: 0
03:52 <YandereBot> You abstain from lynching anyone.
03:52 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:52 <shortc|desk> BabyBug: Thanks a bunch.
03:52 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
03:52 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, iceknife, Raiono, and shortc|desk.
03:52 <shortc|desk> That ought to improve my msg speed by at least half. :-D
03:52 <Raiono> no i asked because of playing the game in tron
03:53 <Raiono> says im the scanner
03:53 <Raiono> and the worm
03:53 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
03:53 <YandereBot> luke-jr, a virus scanner, has been savagely killed by the Trash.
03:53 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
03:53 <YandereBot> Current players: iceknife, Raiono, and shortc|desk.
03:53 <shortc|desk> Raiono: You look like a worm.
03:53 <Raiono> no way
03:53 <iceknife> !shortc|desk
03:53 <Raiono> i look like a bedbug
03:54 <shortc|desk> Raiono: What's your role?
03:54 <Raiono> i dunno yet
03:54 <Raiono> sry first time
03:54 <shortc|desk> Ah.
03:54 <iceknife> it tells you in bold letters
03:54 <iceknife> what is your role shortc?
03:54 <luke-jr> bold?
03:54 <luke-jr> wtf?
03:54 <Raiono> what color is the message
03:54 <shortc|desk> Did you see the stuff Yanderebot told you when the game started?
03:54 -!- Isum [n=isum@adsl-70-232-52-146.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #Armagetron
03:54 <Isum> what's this?
03:54 <iceknife> mine is a bolt black when the game first starts.
03:54 <Raiono> yes i did
03:54 <shortc|desk> Isum: Open season on Yandere newbies. :-D
03:55 <Isum> Mmmmkay.....
03:55 <luke-jr> Raiono: !yandere help
03:55 <iceknife> raiono !vote shortc|desk
03:55 <Raiono> !yandere help
03:55 <Isum> I don't have time to play just at the moment....
03:55 <iceknife> I'm the program and I think you are the hacker...
03:55 <shortc|desk> Well, really, it's a more public testing ground for luke-jr's The Worm Game theme.
03:55 <Isum> I will starting next Monday night though.
03:55 <iceknife> short has to be the virus.
03:55 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: ntohing to test left
03:55 <Raiono> ok so all we do is vote and pm and try to narrow down who is the worm?
03:56 <shortc|desk> Raiono: Pretty much.
03:56 <Raiono> i heard talk of scanner and firewall
03:56 <iceknife> yes.
03:56 <shortc|desk> Raiono: !yandere help virus scanner
03:56 <Raiono> do we vote for them
03:56 <Raiono> i did
03:56 <iceknife> !shortc|desk
03:56 <shortc|desk> Raiono: Roles are assigned when the game starts.
03:56 <Raiono> !yandere help virus scanner
03:56 <Raiono> ok
03:56 <iceknife> !vote shortc|desk
03:56 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
03:56 <iceknife> you have to type !vote shortc|desk
03:56 <iceknife> to vote for him since it's day time
03:57 <Raiono> what is the help for firewall
03:57 <Raiono> !yandere help firewal
03:57 <luke-jr> there is no firewall in this game
03:57 <iceknife> !yandere help firewall
03:57 <shortc|desk> !yandere help firewall
03:57 <luke-jr> [20:48:50] <YandereBot> This game has 1 virus scanner, 1 root worm, 1 program, and 1 hacker. It's your job to determine the worms.
03:57 <Raiono> !yandere help firewall
03:57 <Isum> I wonder if it would be possible to run a D&D campaign over IRC....
03:58 <iceknife> we need votes, we have 2 left to vote.
03:58 <Raiono> do we know if we are the worm the firewall or the scanner
03:58 <iceknife> it says when the game starts.
03:58 <iceknife> yanderbot says you are a "insert function"
03:58 <Raiono> are there any synonymes for worm firewall or scanner
03:58 <iceknife> no.
03:58 <Raiono> ill read it again i cant tell what i am
03:58 <luke-jr> it also tells you if you do just '!yandere help'
03:58 <iceknife> you are either a worm or hacker this round.
03:59 <iceknife> just do a !yandere help
03:59 <iceknife> !yandere help
03:59 <shortc|desk> !yandere help
03:59 <Raiono> so you lied to me
03:59 <iceknife> it's the first line of the help
03:59 <Raiono> you can be a scanner or a worm or a hacker or a firewall
03:59 <Raiono> what wlse can you be
03:59 <Raiono> else*\
03:59 <iceknife> no this game...
03:59 <iceknife> Raiono you don't get to choose..
03:59 <Raiono> i know
03:59 <Raiono> but what are options
03:59 <Raiono> how many roles
03:59 <shortc|desk> luke-jr was killed the first night, and he was the virus scanner.
04:00 <iceknife> play a few rounds and we will find out. I don't know.. I'm new to this as well.
04:00 <luke-jr> Raiono: about 25
04:00 <shortc|desk> <YandereBot> This game has 1 virus scanner, 1 root worm, 1 program, and 1 hacker. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:00 <Raiono> firewall/scanner/haker/ wow rly
04:00 <Raiono> 25 is allot
04:00 <iceknife> right now I'm pretty sure shortc is the worm.
04:00 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: 21, to be exact.
04:00 <Raiono> i think you are
04:00 <shortc|desk> Unless there are roles you didn't rename.
04:00 <iceknife> then vote for me.
04:00 <Raiono> iceknofe looks like a worm
04:00 <Raiono> i did
04:00 <iceknife> no you didn't.
04:00 <Raiono> !vote icekife
04:01 <YandereBot> Raiono: icekife isn't in this game.
04:01 <iceknife> !vote shortc|desk
04:01 <Raiono> !vote iceknife
04:01 <YandereBot> Raiono has voted for iceknife. shortc|desk: 1, iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:01 <iceknife> shortc|desk I tried looks like you are going to win this one.
04:01 <shortc|desk> !vote iceknife
04:01 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted for iceknife. shortc|desk: 1, iceknife: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
04:01 <YandereBot> You lynch iceknife, and it turns out iceknife was a program!
04:01 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
04:01 <YandereBot> Hackers: Raiono
04:01 <luke-jr> hardware, program, obfuscated bug, obfuscated worm, top, firewall, mutex, signed program, cron job, bug, hacker, root worm, kill -9, notify, virus scanner, ptrace, killall, backdoor, radmin, kill, and worm
04:01 <YandereBot> Programs: iceknife
04:01 <YandereBot> Root worms: shortc|desk
04:01 <shortc|desk> iceknife: Indeed.
04:01 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: luke-jr
04:01 <iceknife> I told you..
04:01 <shortc|desk> I thought I was screwed, actually...
04:01 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
04:01 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:01 <iceknife> I know, I had it narrowed down and was like there is no way YOU aren't the worm.
04:01 <iceknife> !yandere
04:01 <shortc|desk> !yandere
04:01 <Raiono> !yandere
04:02 <shortc|desk> Raiono: Don't worry about it. You'll get better. Everyone does. :-)
04:02 <Raiono> so you use gaurd at night?
04:02 <iceknife> yep
04:02 <Raiono> i know
04:02 <luke-jr> BabyBug: O.o
04:02 <iceknife> yeah my first round I was pretty confused as well.
04:02 <BabyBug> luke-jr?
04:02 <Raiono> ty for support, i'd like to thank god and my parents and the academy
04:02 <luke-jr> BabyBug: play?
04:02 <BabyBug> No
04:02 <YandereBot> All the programs go about their business one day and notice that KWrite seems to be missing. After executing for a while, they go to her directory to check on her, and find that she has been terminated by a shorted circuit. She seems to have been the victim of a worm!
04:02 <shortc|desk> Although I think I'll have a bit of an advantage when I run into nsh22 next time. He seems to think I'm an idiot...
04:02 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm, 1 virus scanner, 1 program, and 1 bug. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:02 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:02 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, iceknife, shortc|desk, and Raiono.
04:03 <luke-jr> #1 Nanobot, #2 luke-jr, #3 shortc
04:03 <luke-jr> :þ
04:03 <Raiono> so it's daytime, and i don't need to gaurd or spy?
04:03 <shortc|desk> Ok, for clarity, an explanation of this round.
04:03 <luke-jr> top 3 players
04:03 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: You and I duke it out for #2.
04:03 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: f u, I'm #2
04:03 <shortc|desk> :-P
04:04 <Raiono> :s
04:04 <iceknife> what is your role shortc?
04:04 <luke-jr> Mr. Bug: please /msg YandereBot !spy shortc|desk
04:04 <shortc|desk> Raiono: Anyway, we have four roles this round.
04:04 <iceknife> luke I did you.
04:04 <shortc|desk> We have the worm. The worm is the bad guy.
04:04 <Raiono> yes i figured we cant have more then one rols
04:04 <luke-jr> iceknife: what am I?
04:04 <iceknife> I am the bug.
04:04 <iceknife> you are a program
04:04 <luke-jr> correct
04:04 <shortc|desk> <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm, 1 virus scanner, 1 program, and 1 bug. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:04 <iceknife> well you look like a program
04:04 <luke-jr> Raiono: what are you/
04:04 <luke-jr> ?
04:04 <iceknife> so we know it's either short or raiono
04:05 <Raiono> i am confused slightly
04:05 <luke-jr> ………
04:05 <iceknife> what is your role
04:05 <Raiono> i think im scanning luke
04:05 <shortc|desk> Guys, slow down a minute so I can explain what's going on.
04:05 <luke-jr> Raiono: you won't get a chance
04:05 <luke-jr> !vote shortc|desk
04:05 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
04:05 <shortc|desk> ...
04:05 <Raiono> if i tell you what i am there is a chance you will attack me
04:05 <iceknife> !vote shortc|desk
04:05 <luke-jr> Raiono: !vote shortc|desk
04:05 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:05 * shortc|desk laughs uproariously.
04:05 <shortc|desk> !abstain
04:05 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted to abstain. shortc|desk: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:05 <Raiono> !abstain
04:05 <YandereBot> Raiono has voted to abstain. shortc|desk: 2, Abstains: 2, Undecided: 0
04:05 <YandereBot> Everyone has voted, but there is a tie. Someone will need to switch their vote, or you can type "!next" and force the group to abstain.
04:05 <iceknife> no becasue you are the virus scanner.
04:05 <luke-jr> !unvote
04:05 <YandereBot> luke-jr has switched from shortc|desk to undecided. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 2, Undecided: 1
04:06 <shortc|desk> !unvote
04:06 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has switched from abstain to undecided. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
04:06 <iceknife> !unvote
04:06 <Raiono> !unvote
04:06 <YandereBot> iceknife has switched from shortc|desk to undecided. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
04:06 <YandereBot> Raiono has switched from abstain to undecided. Abstains: 0, Undecided: 4
04:06 <luke-jr> Raiono: !vote shortc|desk
04:06 <Raiono> !vote short
04:06 <YandereBot> Raiono: short isn't in this game.
04:06 <luke-jr> Raiono: unless you are the worm, it's obvious he's guilty
04:06 <Raiono> lol
04:06 <iceknife> !vote shortc|desk
04:06 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
04:06 <Raiono> hmm
04:06 <shortc|desk> !abstain
04:06 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted to abstain. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
04:06 <iceknife> you have to spell it out fully
04:06 * shortc|desk just wants to see this...
04:06 <Raiono> what if i abstain
04:06 <iceknife> !undecided
04:06 <Raiono> can i vote tommorow
04:06 <luke-jr> Raiono: then one of us dies
04:06 <Raiono> !undecided
04:06 <Raiono> oh
04:06 <shortc|desk> Raiono: You can lynch someone once every day.
04:06 <luke-jr> Raiono: probably you
04:06 <luke-jr> !vote shortc|desk
04:06 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:07 <Raiono> i dont wana die
04:07 <iceknife> raiono no voting tomorrow
04:07 <iceknife> you won't.
04:07 <iceknife> no one is voting for you
04:07 <shortc|desk> Raiono: You're the worm.
04:07 <luke-jr> the worm will kill Raiono
04:07 <Raiono> !vote luke-jr
04:07 <YandereBot> Raiono has voted for luke-jr. shortc|desk: 2, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 0
04:07 <YandereBot> You lynch shortc|desk, and it turns out shortc|desk was a virus scanner!
04:07 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:07 <iceknife> whoever gets the most votes dies
04:07 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:07 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, iceknife, and Raiono.
04:07 <luke-jr> wtf
04:07 <iceknife> omg...
04:07 * shortc|desk laughs uproariously again.
04:07 <iceknife> !raiono
04:07 <iceknife> well we know who it is luke
04:07 <shortc|desk> Raiono: It's night now.
04:07 <iceknife> raiono you have to kill one of us.
04:07 <luke-jr> sigh
04:07 <iceknife> so we can go to daytime lol
04:08 <luke-jr> underestimated him
04:08 <shortc|desk> Raiono: If you're the worm, you need to tell Yanderebot who you want to kill tonight.
04:08 <shortc|desk> so... /msg Yanderebot !kill (username)
04:08 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
04:08 <YandereBot> luke-jr, a program, was eliminated by a fork bomb.
04:08 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
04:08 <YandereBot> Bugs: iceknife
04:08 <YandereBot> Programs: luke-jr
04:08 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: shortc|desk
04:08 <YandereBot> Worms: Raiono
04:08 <iceknife> why wouldn't it let me kill raiono
04:08 <iceknife> I did the bug kill command.
04:08 <shortc|desk> luke-jr, iceknife: I told you guys to give me a minute to explain the game to him, but nooOOoo, you just charged ahead. :-D
04:08 <Raiono> lol
04:08 <Raiono> i won though
04:08 <iceknife> apprently he didn't needed explained.
04:08 <Raiono> shsh
04:09 <iceknife> !yandere help bug
04:09 <Raiono> i even calculated my vote
04:09 <Raiono> and i got the expected wtf
04:09 <shortc|desk> Feigning newbie status will only work for so long. :-D
04:09 <Raiono> hahahaa
04:09 <iceknife> !yandere
04:09 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:09 <Raiono> wel im gonna go eat dinner
04:09 <Raiono> ty for helpin out
04:09 <Raiono> peace
04:09 * shortc|desk waves
04:10 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: I think we just got pwned. :-)
04:10 <luke-jr> :/
04:10 <iceknife> lol.
04:10 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:10 <iceknife> yeah and I tried to kill raiono at night as the bug but it wouldn't le tme.
04:10 <luke-jr> !yandere start blind -m allow-early-kill
04:10 <shortc|desk> iceknife: You can spy once during the day, OR kill once at night.
04:10 <iceknife> ahh I see that now.
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04:11 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
04:11 <moses_> huh?
04:11 <moses_> why here?
04:11 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
04:11 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:11 <shortc|desk> !yandere
04:11 <iceknife> !yandere
04:11 <iceknife> I think we only have 3. so we need more.
04:11 <shortc|desk> moses_: The players in this channel are a hoot...
04:12 <luke-jr> moses_: shortc|desk and I just got pwnt by a total n00b
04:12 <shortc|desk> moses_: luke-jr and I just got pwned by a guy pretending to be a newbie.
04:12 <shortc|desk> Well, he was a newbie, but he understood more than he let on.
04:12 <iceknife> I was actually getting annoyed.. how do i tell me role... I wanted to reach through the screen and smack them, then they pwn you guys.
04:12 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:12 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
04:12 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
04:13 <moses_> !yandere
04:13 <moses_> this has quite alot of people
04:13 <moses_> do they all play?
04:13 <shortc|desk> Not yet...
04:13 <YandereBot> KWrite is a quiet, insignificant program. But she's especially quiet today, because she was knocked off with a surge. She seems to have been the victim of a worm!
04:13 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm, 1 virus scanner, 1 radmin, and 1 program. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:13 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:13 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, shortc|desk, iceknife, and moses_.
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04:13 <moses_> dude
04:14 <moses_> can we please play normal yandere roles
04:14 <moses_> these new roles are kinda gay
04:14 <shortc|desk> moses_: I believe these roles were written targeting this channel.
04:14 <moses_> !abstain
04:14 <YandereBot> moses_ has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
04:14 <shortc|desk> !abstain
04:14 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted to abstain. Abstains: 2, Undecided: 2
04:14 <iceknife> !abstain
04:14 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted to abstain. Abstains: 3, Undecided: 1
04:14 <luke-jr> !abstain
04:14 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted to abstain. Abstains: 4, Undecided: 0
04:14 <YandereBot> You abstain from lynching anyone.
04:14 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:14 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:14 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, shortc|desk, iceknife, and moses_.
04:15 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
04:15 <YandereBot> luke-jr, a program, was assassinated with a user error.
04:15 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:15 <YandereBot> Current players: shortc|desk, iceknife, and moses_.
04:15 <iceknife> shortc what is your role?
04:15 <moses_> !yandere iceknife
04:15 <YandereBot> moses_ has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:15 <moses_> !yandere abstain
04:15 <YandereBot> moses_ has switched from iceknife to vote to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
04:15 <moses_> !yandere shortc|desk
04:15 <YandereBot> moses_ has switched from abstain to vote for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:16 <shortc|desk> iceknife: I was about to ask you the same question.
04:16 <shortc|desk> iceknife: You look like a worm.
04:16 <iceknife> !yandere shortc|desk
04:16 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for shortc|desk. shortc|desk: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:16 * shortc|desk sighs.
04:16 <iceknife> Why not tell me your role.
04:16 <moses_> !yandere abstain
04:16 <YandereBot> moses_ has switched from shortc|desk to vote to abstain. shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:16 <moses_> !yandere iceknife
04:16 <YandereBot> moses_ has switched from abstain to vote for iceknife. iceknife: 1, shortc|desk: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:16 <iceknife> !yandere moses_
04:16 <YandereBot> iceknife has switched from shortc|desk to vote for moses_. iceknife: 1, moses_: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:16 <shortc|desk> iceknife: There's only one role in this game who can spy.
04:16 <shortc|desk> Therefor, I must be the virus scanner.
04:16 <iceknife> who is moses_
04:16 <shortc|desk> !yandere iceknife
04:16 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 2, moses_: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
04:16 <YandereBot> You lynch iceknife, and it turns out iceknife was a worm!
04:16 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
04:17 <YandereBot> Programs: luke-jr
04:17 <YandereBot> Radmins: moses_
04:17 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: shortc|desk
04:17 <YandereBot> Worms: iceknife
04:17 <iceknife> :-(
04:17 <shortc|desk> I'm just lucky I didn't spy moses_. :-)
04:17 <shortc|desk> He'd have looked like a worm, too.
04:17 <moses_> im a civ
04:17 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
04:17 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:17 <iceknife> !yandere
04:17 <shortc|desk> moses_: You were a radmin, which is this theme's version of a tsundere.
04:17 <iceknife> isn't yandere an anime as well?
04:18 <shortc|desk> iceknife: yandere is a term used in anime.
04:18 <shortc|desk> I don't know if there's a series explicitly named "Yandere", though.
04:18 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:18 <iceknife> we need 2 more players that last round was fast though.
04:18 <shortc|desk> A yandere is that girl who likes the guy, and is incredibly, violently possessive of him.
04:18 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
04:18 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
04:19 <shortc|desk> So, the yandere is your crazy ex-girlfriend who
04:19 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:19 <shortc|desk> who's sitting in jail because she threatened the girl you sat next to in class.
04:19 <shortc|desk> !yandere
04:19 <iceknife> oh so you know her as well huh lol
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04:19 <iceknife> moses you going to play a new round?
04:20 <shortc|desk> iceknife: It's an archetype. :-)
04:20 <moses_> this version blows
04:20 <moses_> we should play in #anime
04:20 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
04:20 <luke-jr> meh, fine
04:20 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=yandere visible-roles
04:20 <YandereBot> A yandere game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:20 <luke-jr> moses_: happy?
04:20 <moses_> no
04:20 <iceknife> !yandere
04:20 <moses_> no prizes
04:20 <luke-jr> …
04:20 <shortc|desk> iceknife: My crazy ex-girlfriend was the daughter of a federal prosecutor. I suspect it's unlikely she'd land in jail for threatening someone...
04:20 <luke-jr> omfg, so what about lame worthless prizes
04:21 <iceknife> what do you get from prizes.. an atta boy..
04:21 <moses_> also only 4?
04:21 <moses_> !yandere
04:21 <luke-jr> shortc|desk:
04:21 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:21 <shortc|desk> iceknife: In #anime, you get items added to your inventory in the other common game in that channel.
04:21 <shortc|desk> !yadnere
04:21 <shortc|desk> !yandere
04:21 <shortc|desk> I thought I was already in it.
04:21 <shortc|desk> Ah...it timed out.
04:21 <luke-jr> iceknife: shortc|desk means rocks
04:22 <luke-jr> which are worthlesss inn that otheer game
04:22 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: Or lolipops and pantsu.
04:22 <shortc|desk> Which are even more worthless.
04:22 <luke-jr> still worthless
04:22 <YandereBot> Shin-chan is taking a shower. She begins her daily ritual of massaging her chest, hoping to grow breasts soon so she can finally confess to that special someone. But then she screams as the water temperature dramatically rises and quickly burns off all her flesh, leaving behind a loli skeleton. This looks like the work of a yandere!
04:22 <YandereBot> This game has 1 yandere, 1 spy, 1 esper, and 1 civilian. It's your job to determine the yanderes.
04:22 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:22 <shortc|desk> But I keep them, as a measure of my success at the game. :-)
04:22 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, iceknife, moses_, and shortc|desk.
04:22 <shortc|desk> And because it's fun to make jokes about the number of such items I virtually possess.
04:23 <moses_> !abstain
04:23 <YandereBot> moses_ has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
04:23 <shortc|desk> !abstain
04:23 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted to abstain. Abstains: 2, Undecided: 2
04:23 <iceknife> !abstain
04:23 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted to abstain. Abstains: 3, Undecided: 1
04:23 <iceknife> !yandere help esper
04:23 <luke-jr> who's the esper?
04:23 <iceknife> !yandere help esper
04:23 <iceknife> what the heck is it.
04:23 <luke-jr> !yandere help esper
04:23 <shortc|desk> !yandere help esper
04:23 <iceknife> !yandere help civilian
04:23 <luke-jr> o
04:23 <luke-jr> Espers can inspect another player's role one time during a day of your choosing. Type "/msg YandereBot !spy <user>". Be careful of disguised roles like traps and tsunderes which will be misreported.
04:23 <shortc|desk> Same as top.
04:23 <shortc|desk> !yandere help top
04:24 <shortc|desk> luke-jr: Seems your theme code doesn't work quite right.
04:24 <luke-jr> shortc|desk: not sure if that bug is reported ;0
04:24 <luke-jr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/yandere
04:24 <moses_> luke-jr:
04:24 <moses_> make the day and night calls in bold
04:24 <luke-jr> …
04:24 <moses_> so i dont have to read
04:24 <moses_> to see it
04:24 <luke-jr> wtf is this bold bs
04:24 <luke-jr> ?
04:24 <luke-jr> IRC is not bold
04:25 <moses_> *yes it is*
04:25 <luke-jr> IRC is fixed-width for any sane client
04:25 <luke-jr> fixed-width has no bold
04:25 <moses_> * yes it is
04:25 <moses_> shit i forgot how to do it
04:25 <luke-jr> …
04:25 <BabyBug> This channel has +c. All text formatting is removed
04:25 <luke-jr> lol
04:25 <luke-jr> anyhow, iceknife is the yandere
04:26 <moses_> ah thats gay
04:26 <moses_> do you happen to know why BabyBug ?
04:26 <luke-jr> !vote iceknife
04:26 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for iceknife. iceknife: 1, Abstains: 3, Undecided: 0
04:26 <YandereBot> You abstain from lynching anyone.
04:26 <YandereBot> There is 1 yandere still at large.
04:26 <iceknife> I see bold in this channel BabyBug
04:26 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:26 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, iceknife, moses_, and shortc|desk.
04:26 <BabyBug> because people who write in bold and colours all the time are annoying
04:28 <luke-jr> iceknife: hurry up and kill me
04:28 <iceknife> I'm trying..
04:28 <iceknife> I think there is another bug.
04:28 <iceknife> I've typed it like 6 times
04:28 <luke-jr> spy needs to spy then
04:28 <iceknife> it's telling me no such user
04:29 <shortc|desk> iceknife: Try using a \ instead of |
04:29 <YandereBot> The sun is rising. If you're a night role, you need to make your action now or type "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:30 <iceknife> \msg YanderBot !vote luke-jr
04:30 <iceknife> i'm typing /msg YanderBot !vote luke-jr
04:31 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
04:31 <YandereBot> luke-jr, a esper, has been slain by a thermal detonator.
04:31 <YandereBot> There is 1 yandere still at large.
04:31 <YandereBot> Current players: iceknife, moses_, and shortc|desk.
04:31 <iceknife> holy crap now you know it's me.. but dang..
04:31 <iceknife> kept typing the same thing over and over.
04:31 <iceknife> it finally just worked
04:32 <shortc|desk> hahaha...um...haha
04:32 <iceknife> !vote iceknife
04:32 <YandereBot> You can't vote for yourself.
04:32 <shortc|desk> Weird.
04:32 <iceknife> !vote moses_
04:32 <YandereBot> iceknife has voted for moses_. moses_: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:32 <shortc|desk> What exactly did you use for your msg when it didn't work?
04:32 <iceknife> ... /msg YandereBot !vote luke-jr
04:32 <moses_> um i spied shortc|desk
04:33 <moses_> i got no results...
04:33 <moses_> wtf?
04:33 <shortc|desk> luke-jr?
04:33 <shortc|desk> I'm not *that* much of an enigma...
04:33 <iceknife> I think this mod has some issues lol.
04:33 <iceknife> well this theme.
04:33 <luke-jr> moses_: look again
04:33 <moses_> oh nvm
04:33 <moses_> it comes over
04:33 <moses_> in notice
04:33 <moses_> thats gay
04:33 <luke-jr> Yandere has always used notice
04:33 <moses_> why doesnt i come over in this channel
04:33 <moses_> !yandere iceknife
04:33 <YandereBot> moses_ has voted for iceknife. moses_: 1, iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:33 <moses_> its ice
04:34 <luke-jr> even 0.1 with ImoutoBot
04:34 <moses_> you look like a cib
04:34 <moses_> civ
04:34 <shortc|desk> moses_: It depends on your irc client.
04:34 * shortc|desk cheks.
04:34 <shortc|desk> Yup.
04:34 <shortc|desk> !vote iceknife
04:34 <YandereBot> shortc|desk has voted for iceknife. moses_: 1, iceknife: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
04:34 <YandereBot> You lynch iceknife, and it turns out iceknife was a yandere!
04:34 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last yandere has been defeated!
04:34 <YandereBot> Civilians: shortc|desk
04:34 <YandereBot> Espers: luke-jr
04:34 <YandereBot> Spies: moses_
04:34 <YandereBot> Yanderes: iceknife
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04:35 <shortc|desk> I'm done for the night.
04:35 <shortc|desk> Catch you later.
04:35 <iceknife> see ya
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05:24 <Raiono> hai
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06:01 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3-armagetronad-sty] r804 Merge from trunk
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10:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8894 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nServerInfo.cpp):
10:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
10:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: Stop responding to pings when TALK_TO_MASTER was never set and no LAN
10:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: broadcast server discovery queries came in. This should get servers
10:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: off the master list if you turn TALK_TO_MASTER to 0 and restart the
10:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: server. They'll linger on a bit on some users' lists, especially if
10:39 <@armabot> armagetronad: the server is on a LAN and queried from the LAN a lot, though.
11:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8895 /armagetronad/trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
11:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8863 to 8894:
11:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
11:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8894 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-26 10:38:52 +0100 (Mon, 26 Jan 2009) | 7 lines
11:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
11:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: Stop responding to pings when TALK_TO_MASTER was never set and no LAN
11:12 <@armabot> armagetronad: broadcast server discovery queries came in. This should get servers
11:17 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r800 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8863 to 8894:... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r830 Merging from trunk.... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r999 Stop responding to pings when TALK_TO_MASTER was never set a...
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11:32 <@armabot> armagetronad: guru3 * r8896 /www/mainsite/links.php: new clan site
11:35 <guru3> zmanuel: Lucifer: if possible check the dev section of the forum, i'm not quite sure wha to make of that
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12:51 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8897 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tString.cpp src/tools/tString.h): Manuel Moos: Made string filters const correct.
12:52 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8898 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nServerInfo.cpp src/network/nServerInfo.h): Manuel Moos: Fixed server name string filter crash.
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13:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r831 Merging from trunk.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r802 Fixed server name string filter crash.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r801 Made string filters const correct....
13:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8899 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/thirdparty/scrap/): Added generated files to svn ignore list.
13:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8900 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (20 files in 20 dirs): Removing obsolete .cvsignore files. Finally :)
13:34 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8901 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/ (6 files in 6 dirs): More .cvsignores removed.
13:38 <z-man> Gee, svn file deletions are slow.
13:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8902 /armagetronad/trunk/ (27 files in 27 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8894 to 8901:
13:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8901 | z-man | 2009-01-26 13:34:18 +0100 (Mon, 26 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
13:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: More .cvsignores removed.
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13:43 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8900 | z-man | 2009-01-26 13:33:27 +0100 (Mon, 26 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
14:04 <Flex> luke-jr, here?
14:28 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r804 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8894 to 8901:... || [trunk-build_eclipse-work] r4 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8894 to 8901:... || [trunk-build-work] r158 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8894 to 8901:... || [trunk-winlibs-work] r29 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8894 to 8901:... || [0.2.8-winlibs-work] r4 More .cvsignores removed.... || [0.2.8-build_eclipse-work] r15 More
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15:01 <wrtlprnft> woot, i'm a sty developer now!
15:04 <z-man> Yep, we all are :P)
15:06 <wrtlprnft> i guess you made a seperate team so we could have developers for sty, but not the main branches?
15:07 <wrtlprnft> this weird grammatically looking sentence
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15:30 <wrtlprnft> oh, this is a 0.3 port of sty… interesting
15:30 <z-man> wrtlprnft: we have. There's the sty team, and armagetronad-dev is part of it.
15:30 <z-man> 'port' is the wrong word, it's just a plain merge right now.
15:30 <z-man> It still uses zones v1.
15:32 <wrtlprnft> yeah, that's what i meant
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15:50 <luke-jr> Flex: ya
15:51 <Flex> i load sumo in your demo server
15:51 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: afaik, 0.3 sty is on the table for merging someday
15:51 <Flex> then it resets while playing
15:51 <luke-jr> Flex: wtf?
15:55 <Flex> resets the round
15:55 <Flex> not the server
15:55 <Flex> want to go see?
15:56 <luke-jr> can't atm
15:56 <Flex> what's the command to include sumo
15:56 <luke-jr> which demo server?
15:56 <Flex> i might have the wrong map
15:56 <Flex> UK
15:57 <Flex> which map do I include exactly?
15:57 <luke-jr> afaik there is no sumo example
15:57 <luke-jr> just team sumo
15:57 <Flex> oh
15:58 <Flex> what's the command for team sumo
15:58 <luke-jr> include examples/teamsumo.cfg
15:59 <Flex> could you add normal sumo
15:59 <luke-jr> Z-Man/fortress/sumo_4x4-0.1.1.aamap.xml(http://resource.armagetronad.net/resource/Anonymous/polygon/regular/square-1.0.1.aamap.xml)
15:59 <luke-jr> that is OBVIOUSLY broken
16:00 <Flex> yeah, couldn't load that
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16:00 <luke-jr> Flex: ask the release manager, I don't do defaults
16:00 <luke-jr> you're free to upload your own config
16:01 <Flex> urm.. who's the release manager
16:01 <luke-jr> z-man:
16:02 <luke-jr> Flex: crap like that long MAP_FILE I pasted there is OF COURSE never going to work
16:02 <luke-jr> and might even prevent people from ever playing real sumo if they go to the server with it
16:02 <Flex> no i tried, INLCUDE bla bla
16:02 <luke-jr> depending on if we delete it
16:02 <Flex> directing to 4x4 sumo
16:03 <Flex> examples/cvs_test/sumo_complete.cfg
16:03 <z-man> What's with the defaults?
16:03 <Flex> anyway, z-man which sumo should i use..
16:03 <luke-jr> z-man: Flex wants a sumo example
16:04 <Flex> yes, but also luke-jr don't see anywhere to upload own config..
16:04 <Flex> oh nm
16:04 <luke-jr> …
16:05 <z-man> Well, examples/cvs/sumo_complete.cfg
16:05 <z-man> and yes, it's broken :)
16:08 <Flex> any idea which example to use then?
16:09 <z-man> Use sumo_complete and remove the explicit download URI?
16:09 <z-man> Or override MAP_FILE after you include it?
16:11 <luke-jr> Flex: it's possible your long MAP_FILE line earlier may have broken the demo's ability to do sumo until it resets
16:11 <Flex> what long MAP_FILE, i didn't do it!
16:11 <Flex> well, actually i tried it just after you said
16:12 <Flex> unless you mean it's really broken now, just kept restarting the round.
16:14 <Flex> earler
16:24 <Flex> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Sumo
16:31 <luke-jr> z-man: want to play with a VPS?
16:32 <z-man> Do I look perverted? :)
16:33 <z-man> (I've already had several to play with, so unless yours is special, no thanks)
16:36 <luke-jr> low-ping for US, in theory
16:37 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3-armagetronad-sty] r805 Empty backmerge of change merged to the trunk. Confusing, hu... || [0.3-armagetronad-sty] gRealColor now is merely a tyedef for rColor....
16:37 <z-man> A server on Iceland or Greenland may be nice.
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16:37 <luke-jr> O.o
16:37 <luke-jr> on Greenland?
16:37 <luke-jr> wtf?
16:37 <z-man> For equal pings :)
16:38 <z-man> Equally bad for everyone.
16:38 <z-man> Australia would be even better, of course.
16:38 <z-man> Or the Moon.
16:38 <ct|kyle> too bad Lucifer gave up on sending tron to the moon :P
16:40 <luke-jr> z-man: I only rent VPS in US for now
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17:14 <luke-jr> z-man: any idea what the map file for sumo Should Be?
17:15 <z-man> For regular sumo, the included 4x4 map.
17:16 <luke-jr> …
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17:16 <luke-jr> included how?
17:17 <z-man> In all current distributions?
17:17 <z-man> The one you quoted, just with the URI removed?
17:20 <z-man> Z-Man/fortress/sumo_4x4-0.1.1.aamap.xml ?
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17:39 * epsy claps hands at PinkTomato
17:39 <z-man> zen?
17:39 <epsy> Editor's summary: Created an open team
17:40 <epsy> anyway, who won the 2nd place? :)
17:43 <PinkTomato> epsy: :)
17:43 <PinkTomato> Ct|emmy and K-yo
17:43 <PinkTomato> mainly because everyone started to leave
17:44 <epsy> explains it
17:44 <epsy> :)
17:45 <PinkTomato> :), they won one match, then sebol&newbie left, lizmatic&babybug halfway through the 2nd match
17:45 <BabyBug> 3rd match*
17:45 <epsy> well, I guess I can forget posting about it then
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19:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r834 typedef'd google::protobuf::Message to nProtoBuf. /me was ge... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r833 Added infrastructure to let protocol buffers write their stu... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r832 Merged from trunk.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] gRealColor now is merely a tyedef for rColor....
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21:14 <Lizmatic> epsy, can you change x server back to normal again?
21:15 <epsy> did already
21:16 <epsy> unless you checked right now
21:16 <epsy> @sd ¦×¦
21:16 <teabot> epsy: ¦×¦.Team.Sumo.Server: Players (0/18):
21:16 * epsy slaps Lizmatic
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21:34 * Lizmatic cries
21:35 * BabyBug slaps Lizmatic again for being mean! :@
21:36 * ct|kyle pokes Lizmatic
21:36 * Lizmatic slits wrists
21:37 <BabyBug> see Lizmatic...total disregard to feelings! xD
21:41 <epsy> ]\sndspeed
21:41 <epsy> "sndspeed" is:"0" default:"0"
21:41 <ljrbot> epsy: Error: "\sndspeed" is not a valid command.
21:42 <epsy> that wioll sure work :<
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21:52 <@armabot> armacommits: [old-glancing] r748 Merge with trunk...
21:54 <dlh> Why armabot append ... to that? That is the complete commit message.
21:54 <dlh> z-man: do you have this issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/321628
21:54 <teabot> Launchpad bug 321628 in armagetronad "String entry in menus broken" [Undecided,New]
21:55 <z-man> I'll check on the bug, never pressed down in testing utf :/
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21:55 <z-man> Nope, don't get it.
21:56 <dlh> hmm
21:57 <z-man> ugh, of course, I forgot to push something, need to merge
22:03 <z-man> ah, on the mac, the down key probably creates a unicode.
22:03 <z-man> The text menu entry logic is:
22:04 <z-man> if it's not a special key I'm interested in and if it's valid unicode >= 32, insert a character.
22:04 <wrtlprnft> dlh: it's not armabot's fault, the rss feed is that way… I think.
22:04 <z-man> plus, it did remove something from the message: a .
22:05 <wrtlprnft> screw crappy ... logic
22:05 <wrtlprnft> that's what's great about CIA… it makes shortened commit messages as useful as possible
22:07 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8903 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Manuel Moos: Merging own work: gRealColor now is merely a tyedef for rColor.
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22:08 <dlh> ahh, the rss feed has <content type="html">
22:08 <epsy> heh
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22:16 <wrtlprnft> z-man: ah, thanks, when i was hacking away on cty+ct it always annoyed me that i had to cast between those two
22:18 <wrtlprnft> though, of course, gRealColor was four bytes less
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22:26 <dlh> z-man: but uMenu::HandleEvent is being called, but just delegating the event down to uMenuItemString::Event. For some reason it is ignoring the key down.
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22:29 <z-man> dlh: no, uMenuItemString must be catching it.
22:29 <z-man> I'll have some of the menu control keys get taken by uMenu itself.
22:29 <z-man> I mean, it doesn't really make sense for a menu item to act on up or down.
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22:42 <@armabot> lpbugs: [321628] String entry in menus broken
22:47 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8904 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/ui/uMenu.cpp): Manuel Moos: Menu navigation keys are now always handled by the menu.
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22:55 <@armabot> armacommits: [old-glancing] r749 Merge with trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r806 Menu navigation keys are now always handled by the menu.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r805 Merging own work: gRealColor now is merely a tyedef for rCol... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] gRealColor now is merely a tyedef for rColor....
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23:16 <akira_arma> #tea
23:16 <@armabot> akira_arma: The Server Pharm: The Fortress Bistro Similar to Fortress Cafe...but more help is available!: Players (0/16):
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23:29 <z-man> dlh: bug should be fixed now. if not, please attach a recording.
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23:30 <nsh22> hey
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23:51 <dlh> z-man: thanks. that fixed it
23:52 <Lizmatic> epsy I accidently kicked myself in x team and now I'm banned! :(
23:52 <z-man> good job :)
23:52 <Lizmatic> I know
23:53 <z-man> dlh: a pleasure. If there's anything else broken with input or other things that may have a remote chance of being linked to the utf8 transition, do tell.
23:54 <Lizmatic> OH FIX'D
23:58 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r838 Consistently calling the beasts ProtoBuf now.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r837 Restructured stuff: protocol buffers are now directly stream... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r836 Implemented protobuf filler.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r835 Added protocol buffer filler....
Log from 2009-01-27:
--- Day changed Tue Jan 27 2009
00:02 <nsh22> in irc, how do you get a topic to come up after you join?
00:07 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5ac9ebda.bb.sky.com] has quit ["Leaving."]
00:09 <madmax> /topic ?
00:09 <nsh22> i tried that, but when i leave and come back, the topic isnt there anymore
00:12 <madmax> so you mean showing the topic when joining a channel? that depends on the client... although most should do it I guess
00:12 <nsh22> like here, the topic is PIE|latest version etc etc
00:15 <epsy> typing /topic should set it
00:16 <nsh22> it doesnt
00:16 <nsh22> also, how do i make a bot user?
00:16 <nsh22> that might do it
00:16 <epsy> hm?
00:17 <nsh22> how do i make a bot for irc, like arma bot on here?
00:23 <madmax> http://sourceforge.net/projects/supybot/
00:23 <nsh22> so i download that and then?
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00:24 <epsy> nsh22, we have sowhat 3 bots here already
00:24 <nsh22> im not putting one ehere
00:24 <epsy> nsh22, so what do you need?
00:24 <epsy> ok
00:24 <PinkTomato> #g -451440254 C in K
00:24 <@armabot> PinkTomato: (-451 440 254) degrees Celsius = -451 439 981 kelvin
00:24 <nsh22> ill brb i need to go to "clan practise"
00:25 <PinkTomato> I think my iPod temperature scale is a llittle off...
00:26 <epsy> haha
00:26 <epsy> it's going off the laws of physics
00:26 <epsy> by the way, your warranty dropped
00:27 <PinkTomato> Its out of warranty, won't boot but disk mode works fine,
00:29 <epsy> I mean, you're using it at too cold temperatures!
00:31 <PinkTomato> Hehe :D!
00:31 <nsh22> epsy: ok, what do i do with these files?
00:31 <epsy> read the readme
00:33 <nsh22> i need python?
00:34 <epsy> yes
00:34 <epsy> and soup, too
00:34 <nsh22> is it free?
00:34 <epsy> yes
00:37 <epsy> night
00:37 <nsh22> aw
00:37 <nsh22> night
00:38 * nsh22 wonders how he will do this bot thing
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00:48 <@armabot> lpbugs: [321694] huge lag indicators with low pings || [321685] No option to join full team
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01:00 <nsh22> anybosy know how to get a bot working. i have all the files
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01:17 <Genki> BabyBug: ping
01:18 <BabyBug> Genki?
01:18 <Genki> hai :]
01:18 <nsh22> anybody know how to get supybot running
01:19 <BabyBug> Hai!
01:23 <Genki> ummm
01:23 <Genki> never used it :(
01:23 <Genki> sorry
01:23 <nsh22> well, any kind of irc bot?
01:23 * BabyBug cuddles Genki
01:23 <Lizmatic> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
01:23 <Lizmatic> OOOOOOOOOOOOO
01:23 <Lizmatic> OOOOOOOO...
01:23 <Lizmatic> ..OOOOO!
01:24 * Lizmatic cuts off BabyBug's hands
01:24 <Lizmatic> MINE
01:24 <BabyBug> ='(
01:24 <Lizmatic> :*
01:25 <Genki> O.O
01:25 <BabyBug> You can't cut of my hands and then kiss me...It doesn't work like that!
01:25 <BabyBug> =P
01:25 <nsh22> anybody?
01:25 <Genki> no clue :(
01:25 <Lizmatic> What will you do about it? Hit me? MWUAHAHA
01:25 <Genki> sorry baby didn't mean to get your hands cut off
01:26 <BabyBug> Lizmatic, newp...Just put a permanent hold on all them pics!
01:26 <nsh22> FFS!
01:26 <nsh22> f u python!!!!
01:26 <Genki> xD
01:27 <nsh22> jhfdsyfysdgfygrfl
01:27 * nsh22 is pissed
01:28 <Lizmatic> Oh no you di'int
01:32 <nsh22> how in the f**** do i get a damned bot running!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!
01:32 <Genki> O.O
01:32 <Genki> letmegooglethatforyou.....
01:36 <nsh22> question, is it worth paying 20 bucks for mirc?
01:37 <Lizmatic> www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
01:37 <Genki> lol liz
01:37 <flea> what is mirc
01:38 <nsh22> an irc client
01:38 <flea> that sucks mine is free
01:38 <nsh22> mine is too
01:39 <flea> why would u pay then
01:39 <nsh22> but im wondering idf i should get a bought one
01:39 <nsh22> nvm
01:39 <nsh22> fuck it im not paying for it
01:39 <Genki> xD
01:39 <flea> pay me $20 i'll give you a review of a good one
01:39 <Genki> haha
01:39 <flea> pay me to research it for you
01:40 <flea> i'll send it to you after the money clears
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01:55 <nsh22> luke-jr : did you make armabot or was it made already (i.e. from an existing bot not madefor you or the chanel)
01:57 <Genki> #weather 85747
01:57 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Overlook at Del Lago, Vail, Arizona is 51.4°F (5:42 PM MST on January 26, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising).
01:57 <nsh22> balmy
01:57 <Genki> #weather Tucson
01:57 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Speedway & Euclid, Tucson, Arizona is 54.5°F (5:52 PM MST on January 26, 2009). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Pressure: 29.82 in 1009.7 hPa (Rising).
01:57 <Genki> err
01:57 <Genki> T.T
01:57 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
01:57 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 12.0°F (7:57 PM EST on January 26, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -4.0°F. Windchill: 1.4°F. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Falling).
01:58 <Genki> it's cold :( it needs to be 95
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02:05 <luke-jr> nsh22: IIRC, Lucifer made armabot
02:05 <luke-jr> nsh22: armabot is a Supybot
02:05 <luke-jr> ljrbot is also a Supybot
02:05 * ljrbot agrees 100%
02:06 <nsh22> luke-jr : ok, thanks. im trying to make a bot for my channel
02:06 <nsh22> but as ive already stated, im dumb
02:06 <luke-jr> nsh22: just use ljrbot
02:06 <nsh22> how?
02:07 <luke-jr> ask me
02:07 <nsh22> how would i use ljrbot on my other channel?
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02:09 <luke-jr> nsh22: ask me
02:10 <nsh22> luke-jr : i just did
02:10 <luke-jr> you didn't specify enough info
02:10 <nsh22> luke:jr: "how would i use ljrbot on my other channel?"
02:11 <nsh22> nvm i g2g
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02:11 <madmax> say which channel it is already
02:11 <madmax> -_-
02:11 <Genki> lol
02:11 <Genki> heya max
02:12 <madmax> hi
02:12 <Genki> if that is your real name!
02:12 <Genki> dun dun duN!
02:12 <BabyBug> DUN!
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02:12 <Flex> his real name is pablo tuga
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02:13 <BabyBug> lies! all lies!
02:13 <smoothice> dlh: trunk won't compile on mac os x
02:14 <smoothice> z-man: trunk is broken.... I'm seeing errors with SDL and the UTF-8 stuff
02:15 <smoothice> #later tell dlh trunk won't compile on mac os x.. I'm getting SDL.h not found errors. Previous revisions do compile correctly.
02:15 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
02:17 <smoothice> #later tell z-man When I just attempted to compile 0.3-armagetronad-sty I got errors related to SDL.h not being found. Revision 803 of 0.3-armagetronad-sty didn't compile either due to UTF-8 errors but those seem to have been fixed. The last known working revision seems to be 802...
02:17 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
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02:21 <dlh> smoothice: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=110997&package_id=266788
02:21 <dlh> make sure you are using the latest osxlibs. Subscribe to the rss feed to stay up-to-date
02:24 <smoothice> dlh: k
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03:35 <BabyBug> #tea
03:35 <BabyBug> \o/
03:35 <@armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (5/32): BabyBug, _-`Ww_ lilengin, |x| FoFo, ~KirBy!<(^.^)>~, ¦×¦ Hoax
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05:16 <Lucifer> well, still no luck borrowing money :(
05:23 <BabyBug> =(
05:23 * BabyBug cheers Lucifer up!
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06:11 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
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06:11 <Genki> O.O
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06:11 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 65.8°F (11:05 PM CST on January 26, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Tuesday evening through Wednesday morning...
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06:12 <Genki> #weather 85747
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06:12 <Lucifer> it's really starting to look like our winter is over
06:12 <Genki> heh
06:12 <Lucifer> haha, armabot left before reporting your weather
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06:12 <Genki> yeah :(
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06:12 <Lucifer> .weather 85747
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06:13 <Lucifer> @weather 85747
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06:46 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
06:46 <armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 65.7°F (11:45 PM CST on January 26, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 60.8°F. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015.1 hPa (Steady). Winter Storm Watch in effect from Tuesday evening through Wednesday morning...
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06:53 <Genki> #weather tucson
06:53 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Speedway & Euclid, Tucson, Arizona is 46.9°F (10:52 PM MST on January 26, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Steady).
06:53 <Genki> ha!
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08:09 <flea> whatever
08:09 <flea> i'm the best tron player ever
08:09 <flea> hands down
08:27 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8905 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. config/examples/cvs_test/sumo_complete.cfg): Manuel Moos: Removed obsolete explicit resource path.
08:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8906 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp src/tron/gTeam.cpp):
08:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
08:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: Teams the client thinks cannot be joined are no longer hidden in the
08:28 <@armabot> armagetronad: menu, but shown with transparency (darker without alpha blending).
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09:20 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1002 Teams the client thinks cannot be joined are no longer hidde... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1001 Removed obsolete explicit resource path.
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09:55 <flea> a thousand vistors just hit http://palincenter.com
10:00 <flea> lol @ wrtlprnft
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10:14 <wrtlprnft> lol @ me?
10:14 <wrtlprnft> what did i do this time?
10:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8907 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tConfiguration.cpp):
10:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
10:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
10:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-19 Removed accidental suppression of help message.
10:24 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-16 Merging /team chat bugfix from 0.2.8.
10:25 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r809 Merging from 0.3.1:... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r808 Explicitly not merging from 0.3.1:... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r807 Merging from 0.3.1:... || [0.3.1] r793 Defaulting map and rotation settings to owner access level.... || [0.3.1] r792 Adapted config and map rotation to access elevation security...
10:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8908 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/:
10:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
10:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: Explicitly not merging from 0.3.1:
10:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: Daniel Lee Harple 2009-01-18 Fixed versioning for 0.3.1 branch.
10:25 <@armabot> armagetronad: Daniel Lee Harple 2009-01-18 Merge r784 from trunk
10:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8909 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tools/tConfiguration.h src/tron/gGame.cpp):
10:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
10:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging from 0.3.1:
10:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-27 Defaulting map and rotation settings to owner access level.
10:26 <@armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos 2009-01-27 Adapted config and map rotation to access level escalation bugfix.
10:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8910 /armagetronad/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
10:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8901 to 8906:
10:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
10:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: r8906 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-27 08:27:53 +0100 (Tue, 27 Jan 2009) | 4 lines
10:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
10:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: Teams the client thinks cannot be joined are no longer hidden in the
10:40 <@armabot> armagetronad: menu, but shown with transparency (darker without alpha blending).
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14:27 <z-man> Heh, Launchpad has Colognian as a language :)
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15:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r841 Added second cache.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r840 Added cache stubs.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r839 Merge from trunk...
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15:50 <z-man> heh: GOOGLE_DISALLOW_EVIL_CONSTRUCTORS(Message);
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16:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r844 Implemented cache storage and uncompression.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r843 Compression framework in place. Missing: an implementation t... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r842 Added calls to fill the cache....
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16:57 <P4> http://emol.org/media/virtualreality/3d/index.html ← nice stuff to plug in arma for spectators :þ
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17:34 <Genki> #weather tucson
17:34 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Speedway & Euclid, Tucson, Arizona is 48.9°F (9:32 AM MST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 33%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 46.4°F. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am MST Wednesday...
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17:41 <wrtlprnft> z-man: what the f* is evil about copy constructors and assignment operators?
17:41 <z-man> They slice.
17:42 <z-man> Freddy Krueger operators.
17:42 <z-man> Plus, they're called implicitly.
17:42 <wrtlprnft> still they're not evil
17:43 <z-man> No, that's why I quoted it.
17:43 <wrtlprnft> GOOGLE_MAKE_NONCOPYABLE or something
17:43 <Chef_bot> z-man: do you know how to set up a bot on an irc chanel (dumb question)?
17:43 <z-man> NO
17:43 <Chef_bot> oh ok
17:43 <wrtlprnft> Chef_bot: ping
17:43 <z-man> Well, yes, but not one of the armabot type.
17:43 <Chef_bot> ffs this isnt my name...
17:43 -!- Chef_bot is now known as nsh22
17:44 <wrtlprnft> ah
17:44 <nsh22> sry
17:44 <wrtlprnft> lol
17:44 <nsh22> ugh.... ive downloaded supybot and know i dont knowhow to get it working....
17:44 <wrtlprnft> anyways, there's nothing complicated about it
17:45 <wrtlprnft> and probably nowhere near as complicated as what i imagine z-man's bots to be
17:45 <luke-jr> nsh22: What CHANNEL/
17:45 * nsh22 is dumb at programming
17:45 <nsh22> ummm
17:45 <luke-jr> that's obviously the missing detail
17:45 <nsh22> #foodlovers
17:45 <luke-jr> ]join #foodlovers
17:45 <luke-jr> ok, done, now stfu and be happy :þ
17:45 <wrtlprnft> oh, supybot never joins channels that start with fo and have 10 chars
17:46 <luke-jr> o
17:46 <nsh22> luke-jr,: umm was it supposed to join my channel, it didnt
17:46 * madmax notes luke-jr's bot isn't here
17:48 -!- ljrbot [n=supybot-@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31] has joined #Armagetron
17:49 <luke-jr> ]join #foodlovers
17:49 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r845 Implemented compression. Doesn't quite work yet :)...
17:49 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: Cannot join #foodlovers, I was not invited.
17:49 <luke-jr> nsh22: dork
17:49 <nsh22> its something dumb isnt it?
17:50 <luke-jr> yes
17:51 <wrtlprnft> z-man: dumb question: if i were to fix that cockpit/say rendering order thing, where would i do that? 0.3.1 or the trunk or a new branch or somewhere else?
17:51 <z-man> Depends on how complicated it is.
17:52 <z-man> It's not important enough for 0.3.1
17:52 <z-man> so either the trunk if risk of breakage is managable or a new branch if it isn't.
17:52 <z-man> You'll turn the whole console into a widget, right?
17:52 <wrtlprnft> which i still don't know. I might just add a priority parameter to that global object you use to register a perframe callback
17:53 <wrtlprnft> plus it's got 0.3.1 as a milestone right now
17:53 <z-man> You can ignore that.
17:53 <z-man> Move it around as you see fit.
17:53 <luke-jr> grr, jelmer ☹
17:53 <wrtlprnft> ok :-)
17:54 <z-man> I think LP sets automatic milestones if you attach a bug to a series.
17:54 <z-man> which jelmer?
17:54 <luke-jr> bzr-svn jelmer
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18:00 <dlh> z-man: updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad/+bug/321628. Seems uMenuItemStringWithHistory doesn't work now
18:00 <teabot> Launchpad bug 321628 in armagetronad/trunk "String entry in menus broken" [Critical,Triaged]
18:00 <z-man> Arg, of course :/
18:01 * z-man and my "no menu item should use these keys" assumptions.
18:01 <dlh> right
18:01 <wrtlprnft> hehe
18:01 <z-man> So, hmm, only real solution would be to have tStringMenuItem explicitly ignore control keys.
18:02 <wrtlprnft> by the way, i'd be glad if there was a way to catch return from a uMenuItemString
18:02 * z-man does not like this
18:02 <wrtlprnft> what's the problem, anyways? why do arrow keys insert stuff at all?
18:02 <z-man> Ask the OSX implementation of SDL.
18:02 <z-man> they send a valid unicode with the keypresses.
18:03 <wrtlprnft> oh
18:03 <wrtlprnft> because arrow keys correspond to characters. riiiight.
18:03 <luke-jr> they do!
18:04 <wrtlprnft> not ←↓→↑.
18:04 <wrtlprnft> sorry
18:05 <wrtlprnft> and ctrl corresponds to four characters at once!
18:05 * wrtlprnft hopes there's no ctrl-in-a-single-codepoint character in unicode
18:06 <luke-jr> …
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18:11 <wrtlprnft> google is defining an awful lot of macros inside their namespace
18:11 <wrtlprnft> one might even think that would make them less global
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18:28 <nsh22> well now that thats done...
18:29 <nsh22> ugh they made me change it to ## instead of #
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19:30 <nsh22> #lastseen smoothice
19:30 <@armabot> nsh22: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts} Racing II 13 hours 49 minutes ago.
19:32 <luke-jr> nsh22: lulz
19:55 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r847 Fixed bug where the receiver would put much more messages in... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r846 Yay, compression works!...
19:58 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
19:58 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 26.4°F (1:58 PM EST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 26.6°F. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Steady).
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20:10 <luke-jr> any way to change the default access level?
20:10 <luke-jr> I want to make everyone an Admin
20:15 <nsh22> ?
20:18 <luke-jr> …
20:18 <luke-jr> what
20:19 <Lucifer> !
20:19 <Lucifer> grrrr, I have to drive tonight :(
20:19 <Lucifer> it's too fucking cold to ride
20:19 <K-Yo> #si tade
20:19 <@armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tade” at the moment, sorry.
20:20 <luke-jr> Lucifer: cold? in Texas?
20:20 <luke-jr> #weather 68127
20:20 <@armabot> luke-jr: The current temperature in 78th Ave. & Seymour, Ralston, Nebraska is 13.8°F (1:12 PM CST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.8°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 30.32 in 1026.6 hPa (Rising).
20:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/Corners-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:20 <luke-jr> you don't know the meaning of cold :þ
20:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/Corners-Reversed-0.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:21 <nsh22> i do!
20:21 <nsh22> last week i woke up to -7F evry day
20:21 <nsh22> #g -7F in C
20:21 <@armabot> nsh22: (-7) degrees Fahrenheit = -21.6666667 degrees Celsius
20:21 <K-Yo> #si train
20:21 <@armabot> K-Yo: Capture The Flag =Defense Trainer=: Players (0/2):
20:22 <K-Yo> #si sumo train
20:22 <@armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “sumo train” at the moment, sorry.
20:22 <K-Yo> #si tade
20:22 <@armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “tade” at the moment, sorry.
20:22 <luke-jr> nsh22: #weather
20:22 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
20:22 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 24.4°F (2:22 PM EST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 3.2°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.44 in 996.8 hPa (Falling).
20:22 <nsh22> its warm right now
20:24 <nsh22> it actually warmed up enough to snow this week
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20:25 <K-Yo> #ls tade
20:25 <@armabot> K-Yo: -=tade|| has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Open Sumo 2 minutes ago.
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20:29 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
20:29 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 19.6°F (2:29 PM EST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 19.4°F. Pressure: 30.35 in 1027.7 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 6 PM this evening to 1 PM EST Wednesday...
20:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/Corners-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/Corners-Reversed-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:38 <P4> wth? nsh22?
20:39 <nsh22> yes?
20:39 <P4> >> Tue Jan 27 19:29:33 2009 Odpowiedz PING do nsh22
20:40 <nsh22> ?
20:40 <P4> That was You pinging me, so I'm asking why :)
20:40 <nsh22> oh, ya
20:40 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
20:40 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 36.0°F (1:40 PM CST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 33.8°F. Windchill: 30.2°F. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 6 PM this evening to 11 am CST Wednesday...
20:40 <P4> #q
20:40 <nsh22> i was bored, didnt know it came up on your side
20:41 <@armabot> P4: The significant owl hoots in the night." -- (Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!)
20:41 <Lucifer> luke-jr: it's not the cold itself that's the problem, it's that I don't have sufficient cold riding gear
20:41 <Lucifer> #q
20:41 <@armabot> Lucifer: No-one would have believed, in the final years of the Century of the Fruitbat, that Discworld affairs were being watched keenly and impatiently by intelligences greater than Man's, or at least much nastier; that their affairs were being scrutinised and studied as a man with a three-day appetite might study the All-You-Can-Gobble-For-A-Dollar menu outside Harga's House of Ribs... -- (Terry (1 more message)
20:41 <Lucifer> who put all this terry pratchett stuff in there?
20:41 <P4> me, me! :)
20:43 <Lucifer> #q
20:43 <@armabot> Lucifer: Now we've got a truth to die for!" "No. Men should die for lies. But the truth is too precious to die for." -- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods)
20:43 <Lucifer> #q
20:44 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
20:44 <Lucifer> #q
20:44 <@armabot> Lucifer: timed out
20:44 <Lucifer> #q
20:44 <@armabot> Lucifer: Lancre operated on the feudal system, which was to say, everyone feuded all the time and handed on the fight to their descendants. -- (Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum)
20:44 <Lucifer> #q
20:44 <@armabot> Lucifer: Of course he was all in favour of Armageddon in *general* terms. -- (Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens)
20:45 <Lucifer> er, are all of our old quotes still in there?
20:45 <Lucifer> #help q
20:45 <@armabot> Lucifer: (q <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "fetch http://p4.rootnode.net/".
20:45 <Lucifer> I guess not
20:45 <Lucifer> #list quote
20:45 <@armabot> Lucifer: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
20:45 <Lucifer> #quote random
20:45 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
20:45 <Lucifer> #alias add q "quote random"
20:45 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
20:45 <Lucifer> #q
20:45 <@armabot> Lucifer: Quote #31: "<Fonkay> #eliza you are stupid <armabot> Fonkay: Why do you say i are stupid?" (added by Vanhayes at 01:05 AM, November 02, 2006)
20:45 <Lucifer> P4: you need to use a different alias for your random terry pratchett quote thing
20:46 <Lucifer> #alias lock q
20:46 <@armabot> Lucifer: The operation succeeded.
20:47 <nsh22> #q 81
20:47 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #5: "first the spoon, then the ladle, then the bowl, then the bowl, then the makefiles have a Ni! -- Armabot" (added by Lucifer_arma at 09:41 AM, March 27, 2006)
20:47 <epsy> Lucifer, quote random #armagetron
20:47 <nsh22> #q
20:47 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
20:48 <nsh22> lol
20:49 <nsh22> #q
20:49 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #22: "i got a pen from a microsoft rep about 2 months ago.. already stopped working properly -- Plazma" (added by Lucifer_arma at 03:46 AM, September 19, 2006)
20:52 <P4> ok
20:52 <P4> #quote
20:52 <P4> :þ
20:52 <@armabot> P4: There had been some desultory talk about putting up a statue to Rincewind but, by the curious alchemy that tends to apply in these sensitive issues, this quickly became a plaque, then a note on the Roll of Honour, and finally a motion of censure for being improperly dressed. -- Unseen University politics at work (Terry Pratchett, Eric)
20:52 <nsh22> #q me
20:52 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #33: "that wasn't a war, that was you losing units trying to attack one city...then mom joined in with howtizers-spidey" (added by spidey at 04:07 AM, November 07, 2006)
20:53 <nsh22> #q nsh22
20:53 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #66: "<Ady666> armabot say 'ello [...] <Ady666> its not smart enough" (added by epsy at 12:16 AM, December 22, 2007)
20:53 <nsh22> #q nsh22
20:53 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #83: "<Lizmatic> wtfzomg ady-lucifer and lucifer aren't the same guys?! !!!?!"" (added by Lucifer_arma at 10:57 PM, December 16, 2008)
20:53 <nsh22> #q 100
20:54 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #4: "left vertical bar is brakes, right one is an early-90s roleplaying game made by White Wolf before they went all Magic: The Gathering happy -- armabot (markov)" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 06:24 AM, March 27, 2006)
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20:56 <P4> luke-jr: are you around?
20:57 <P4> https://levopede-uk.dashjr.org/aa-admin/edit.php is it working? i'm trying to set and apply MAX_CLIENTS 6
20:57 <P4> #si -v ver (UK
20:57 <@armabot> P4: Lightfoot Hosting Demo Server (UK) (85.234.147.28:4534) running 0.2.8_alpha20080122 unix dedicated, url: http://lightfoot.dashjr.org/demo.php, Description: “Web control panel password is 'demo'“, Players (4/4): Ariesuperfire, cock knocker, K-Seezy, mix
21:00 <@armabot> armacommits: [osx-libs] r3 Added libpng... || [osx-libs] r2 Added protobuf...
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21:01 <nsh22> that was weird
21:02 <PinkTomato> P4: I think luke-jr locks the MAX_CLIENT setting :)
21:07 * nsh22 is glad exams are over
21:12 <P4> i think there's no more max_clients setting
21:13 <nsh22> would it be acceptable for me to post the url of my food site on the arma forums? (i doubt it)
21:16 <BabyBug> nsh22, Best way to do that is to set the WWW field in your profile...and then post alot :P
21:17 <nsh22> true....
21:17 <nsh22> but who all really clicks on that link?
21:17 <K-Yo> P4, max_clients still exist!
21:17 -!- TaZ [i=4aeb3531@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-50a575ff77f72de3] has joined #armagetron
21:18 <TaZ> hi all
21:18 <TaZ> and good afternoon
21:18 <nsh22> TAZ!
21:18 <nsh22> hai
21:18 <TaZ> hey nsh22?
21:18 <K-Yo> nsh22, I don't see the problem of a player showing us what he does on his free time on the off topic section...
21:18 <nsh22> neal
21:18 <K-Yo> hi TaZ
21:18 <TaZ> oh neal!
21:18 <TaZ> haha
21:18 <nsh22> lol
21:18 <TaZ> hey k-yo
21:18 <nsh22> K-Yo : ok thanks
21:19 <K-Yo> but maybe guru will :P
21:19 <TaZ> i forgot the the cooking website neal :s
21:19 <nsh22> well, we shall soon find out
21:19 <nsh22> lol
21:19 <nsh22> no, the old one
21:19 <nsh22> the cedhjost one
21:19 <nsh22> the cedhost one*
21:19 <nsh22> i got it back
21:19 <nsh22> your info is still there
21:20 <TaZ> oo ok
21:20 <TaZ> lol
21:23 <TaZ> K-yo are you the one i talked to about voodoo's project?
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21:29 <nsh22> K-Yo : the off topic section is called really general, correct?
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21:34 <K-Yo> nsh22, I guess so
21:34 <nsh22> ok
21:34 <K-Yo> TaZ, I am the one indeed
21:34 <K-Yo> #apropos foru
21:34 <@armabot> K-Yo: forums
21:34 <K-Yo> #help forums
21:34 <@armabot> K-Yo: (forums <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google site:forums.armagetronad.net $*".
21:34 <K-Yo> #forums
21:34 <@armabot> K-Yo: Search took 0.43 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: Index: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/>; Armagetron Forums :: Search: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/search.php>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Thumbnails need authentication?: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=16951>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Network xml: (2 more messages)
21:35 <K-Yo> #forums food
21:35 <@armabot> K-Yo: Search took 0.82 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - crazy floor: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=1711>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - good alternative to cheetos ...: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=571>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Spare parts - not food: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=45734>; Armagetron Forums :: (3 more messages)
21:35 <nsh22> i havent piosted yet
21:37 <nsh22> #forums something different
21:37 <@armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.26 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - compiling pig sty patch on ...: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18923&sid=dabe726897792b0473670c39167d7668>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Its time!: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=6432>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - 0.2.8_beta4: release process and ...: (3 more messages)
21:37 <nsh22> #forums food site
21:38 <@armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.60 seconds: Armagetron Forums :: View topic - crazy floor: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=1711>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Cycle code: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=17051>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - Auto Grind = Cheat?: <http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?t=18190>; Armagetron Forums :: View topic - keyboard (2 more messages)
21:38 <nsh22> 0o
21:38 <nsh22> #forums thefoodsite
21:38 <@armabot> nsh22: No matches found. (Search took 0.42 seconds)
21:38 <nsh22> meh
21:38 <nsh22> i posted anyways
21:42 <K-Yo> google doesn't know it yet
21:42 <nsh22> ah
21:42 <nsh22> anyways, its in really general
21:47 <epsy> @g tst
21:47 <epsy> :5
21:47 <epsy> :(
21:48 <teabot> epsy: http://www.tstproducts.com/ - TST Products, Inc.
21:48 <TaZ> lol
21:49 <nsh22> i there a link to any ctfs settings?
21:49 <nsh22> is*
21:51 <PinkTomato> there is to ctf settings
21:51 <PinkTomato> only thing it is missing is shot_thresh
21:52 <nsh22> where would they be?
21:52 <PinkTomato> #g "2020 always used to say, the word of mouth works"
21:52 <@armabot> PinkTomato: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
21:52 <PinkTomato> @g "2020 always used to say, the word of mouth works"
21:52 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://www.tinttek.com/testimonials.php - Tint Tek 20/20 - Testimonials
21:53 <PinkTomato> my google brings tst up first.
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21:54 <PinkTomato> nsh22: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/files/head%3A/config/examples/
21:54 <madmax> #tea
21:54 <@armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): $!<KNESS, Break, etaloseD (Desolate@forums), fingerbib, juice keeper, noob13, oY-K¤Tc, P0P3Y, PaZnoGxTC, Pink Tomatoes (Pink\_Tomatoes@forums), prupixie, _-`Ww_ lilengin, ¦×¦ Hoax
21:55 <nsh22> ty pink
21:56 * epsy needs a non-interactive tool to send files over obex/bluetooth :<
21:56 <PinkTomato> @g command-line bluetooth
21:57 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://www.linux.com/articles/60341 - Linux.com :: CLI Magic: Access your Bluetooth phone via the ...
21:57 <PinkTomato> that looks interesting :)
22:07 <Lucifer> well, I just found out the job I've been working on trying to get is going to be a much longer hiring process
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22:07 <Lucifer> so I guess I've got one more phone call to make before I have to decide to take that other job :(
22:07 <nsh22> well that sucks
22:09 <Lucifer> I might still get the job, but I don't have the money to stick it out and wait and see
22:09 <Lucifer> so I'm in the unfortunate position of having to take a lesser job, which I might ultimately only work for a few weeks
22:09 <Lucifer> or I might get stuck there for awhile
22:09 <nsh22> sooo are you gonna say you cant take the job or woiat and see?
22:09 * Lucifer will definitely have to keep looking
22:09 <Lucifer> well, I'm going to call someone else first and see what it looks like over there
22:10 <nsh22> ah
22:10 <Lucifer> the guys that want to hire me but didn't have the work to start me
22:10 <Lucifer> if they can't start me, then I'll take the job and hang in there as long as need be for me to get a better job
22:10 * nsh22 needs to touch up his resume and go pavement (or snow) stomping
22:11 <nsh22> the guy who "hired" me says business is really slow
22:11 <nsh22> worked one day in total, about 2 or 3 months ago
22:12 <nsh22> bb in 5mmins, need to go start supper
22:14 <Lucifer> motherfucker wasn't there :(
22:15 <nsh22> 0-0
22:15 <Lucifer> I'm going to wait as long as possible today before I call that other guy back and take the job
22:25 * BabyBug wuddles Lucifer ... have any better luck on borrowing any money?
22:25 <Lucifer> no, still no luck
22:26 <Lucifer> getting down to the wire, rent's due on monday, iirc
22:29 <nsh22> what does iirc?
22:29 <nsh22> mean*
22:29 <BabyBug> if i recall correctly
22:29 <nsh22> ah
22:29 <nsh22> ty
22:33 <Lucifer> I have got to finish off this chili
22:33 <Lucifer> for the last few days all I can smell is my ass
22:33 <nsh22> lol
22:33 <nsh22> haha
22:34 * nsh22 hasnt had chili for a while....
22:34 <Lucifer> my roommate made a big ol' pot of chili
22:34 <Lucifer> so we've been eating that
22:34 <Lucifer> I guess it's about to be my turn to make a big ol' pot of something
22:34 <Lucifer> maybe I'll make another soup
22:35 <nsh22> make a pot of stew
22:35 <Lucifer> naaaaahh, I should make a stir-fry
22:35 <Lucifer> see if I can scale up the chicken/spinach/carrots stir-fry
22:35 <nsh22> i need to ask permissionf rom a chef if i can post his recipe on my site
22:35 <Lucifer> if I can make enough of that to feed two of us for 3 days, she'll be happy :)
22:35 <Lucifer> I don't use recipes that I have to get permission to share :)
22:35 * Lucifer is an open source nut, after all
22:36 * nsh22 made lasagne yesterday at school during exams, 5 small 1 large
22:36 * Lucifer doesnt' like lasagne, sorry
22:36 <nsh22> ima post my recipe on my site
22:36 <nsh22> lol
22:36 <Lucifer> in fact, I can pretty much do without tomato sauce
22:36 <nsh22> WHAT?!?!?!
22:36 <Lucifer> heh
22:37 <Lucifer> I grew up in a home of italian descent
22:37 <Lucifer> I've had enough fucking tomato sauce to last a lifetime
22:37 <nsh22> and you dont like tomatoe sauce
22:37 <nsh22> wow
22:37 * nsh22 feels sorry for lucifer
22:37 <Lucifer> now, this cabbage and chicken thing I made is an old family recipe as well, only the recipe calls for ham
22:37 <Lucifer> well, my roommate can't eat pork, so I made it with chicken
22:37 <Lucifer> it was freaking awesome
22:37 <nsh22> cant eat pork,? kosher?
22:37 <Lucifer> see, my family hails from Sardinia, so tomato sauce isn't as big a deal
22:38 <Lucifer> no, biological reaction to it
22:38 <nsh22> ah
22:38 <Lucifer> she has problems with beef too
22:38 <Lucifer> my other roommate is a vegetarian
22:38 <nsh22> sardinia you say? were you born there?
22:38 <Lucifer> so when I want food that I know neither of them will eat, I buy pork and beef
22:38 <nsh22> haha
22:38 <Lucifer> no, my great-grandparents immigrated here
22:38 <nsh22> ah
22:38 <Lucifer> but we've kept many of the old family recipes in the family
22:38 <P4> K-Yo: i thought so too
22:39 <nsh22> i love italian food. the cooking , the recipes, the entire experiance
22:39 <P4> but try saying /admin max_clients in server console (as owner)
22:39 <Lucifer> like, ummm, my family's idea of alfredo sauce is very different than what you get at the Olive Garden :)
22:39 <nsh22> i think that their philosiphies are great
22:39 <P4> i got only some help about max_clients_same_ip…
22:39 <nsh22> lol i know
22:39 <Lucifer> but I've moved into chinese cooking recently
22:39 <Lucifer> I only stopped because my roommate started bringing home stuff from the food bank
22:40 <nsh22> i think the fact that in italy, the family converges at the dinner tabele
22:40 <nsh22> is great
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22:40 <nsh22> that never happens in modern life here any more
22:41 <Lucifer> happens in my family :)
22:41 <Lucifer> when the kids come to vist me, anyway
22:41 <nsh22> im sure...
22:41 <Lucifer> we all sit and eat together
22:41 <nsh22> we eat on the couch
22:41 <Lucifer> but, you know, it's how my family is, how I grew up, etc ;)
22:41 <nsh22> lol
22:41 <nsh22> yeah, that the way youve always done it
22:41 <Lucifer> and I see no reason to change it
22:42 <Lucifer> I'm not a traditionalist by any stretch of the imagination, but this is one tradition I love and will keep
22:42 <nsh22> see, it used to be like that at my house, but my dad would work late, so he wouldnt be at the table
22:42 <nsh22> then i grew up and away from the dinner table
22:42 <Lucifer> my ex didn't like it, actually
22:42 <nsh22> really?
22:42 <Lucifer> really
22:42 <nsh22> how could you not like that
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22:42 <Lucifer> after we had kids, it was more convenient to serve food that way, but she still didn't like it
22:42 <Lucifer> I would be surprised if she was still doing it, in fact
22:43 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has joined #armagetron
22:43 <nsh22> oh noes
22:43 <ivantis2> dont pick your noes
22:43 <Lucifer> it's her house now, not mine, she can do whatever she wants
22:44 <nsh22> ah
22:44 <nsh22> so you got the bad end of the divorce stick?
22:44 <Lucifer> there is no good end to that stick
22:44 <epsy> true
22:44 <nsh22> well...more bad (if that makes sense)
22:44 <nsh22> worse
22:44 <epsy> or rather, not wrong
22:45 <Lucifer> I didn't get screwed over, if that's what you're asking
22:45 <nsh22> oh ok
22:45 * nsh22 needs to go peel potatoes in 5 mins
22:45 <Lucifer> you actually peel potatoes?
22:45 <nsh22> yes
22:45 * Lucifer stopped peeling potatoes years ago
22:46 <Lucifer> what are you making that can possibly be improved by peeling potatoes?
22:46 <ivantis2> i had a cool idea: whenever someone mentions ivantis* in irc, a script sends me a text message to my phone telling me
22:46 <Lucifer> just scrub the little bastards, cut them up like normal :)
22:46 <nsh22> lol
22:46 <Lucifer> ivantis2: that's a good idea
22:46 <Lucifer> please do it
22:46 <nsh22> we get the thick skinned potatoes
22:46 <Lucifer> we'll spam the hell out of your phone until your phone bill is higher than your rent
22:47 <madmax> that's even a better idea
22:47 <nsh22> haha
22:47 <nsh22> ok i g2g. ill bbl
22:47 <ivantis2> i have unlimited messages
22:47 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
22:52 <ivantis2> dah! i just thought of it!
22:53 <ivantis2> epsy: do you remember my question a while ago about "how do computer processors time things?"
22:54 <ivantis2> i bet its a seperate component that always does things at a steady rate, from the real-time battery thing, then reports it to the processor
22:54 <ivantis2> something like that
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22:59 <@armabot> lpbugs: [322066] Cycles turning invulnerable
23:01 -!- ivantis2 [n=ivantis@63-245-159-78.kitusa.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:04 <Lucifer> oh good, he left before I found myself having to tell him he's right
23:04 <Lucifer> *phew*
23:04 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8911 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/ui/uMenu.cpp): Manuel Moos: Reverting menu key handling change; we need to fix the bug differently.
23:05 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has quit []
23:05 <epsy> haha
23:05 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r812 uMenuItemString now ignores up, down and escape.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r811 Reverting menu key handling change; we need to fix the bug d...
23:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8912 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/ui/uMenu.cpp): Manuel Moos: uMenuItemString now ignores up, down and escape.
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23:19 <epsy> zmanuel, eek at bug 321685
23:19 <teabot> Launchpad bug 321685 in armagetronad "No option to join full team" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/321685
23:20 <epsy> there were already colors/etc on trunk in team menu
23:20 <zmanuel> No, just the team colors.
23:20 <zmanuel> Plus, it's already merged :)
23:21 <epsy> I remember having put something to prefix unjoinable teams
23:22 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
23:22 <nsh22> hey hey
23:22 <zmanuel> Yeah, and that's still there.
23:23 <zmanuel> So now we have both the dimming and prefix.
23:23 <nsh22> Lucifer : you know a bit about cooking and recipes dont you?
23:23 <Lucifer> yes
23:24 <nsh22> would you be interested insharings ome of your ideas on my website? (pretty please :)lol)
23:24 <nsh22> wow i cant type today....
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23:25 <Lucifer> I don't really know, heh
23:26 <Lucifer> problem is, cooking is a hobby I shared with my ex, and didn't develop previously
23:26 <nsh22> would you like the url anyway?
23:26 <nsh22> ah
23:26 <Lucifer> so I'm still in limbo on it
23:26 <Lucifer> I saw your post on the forums
23:26 <nsh22> oh ok
23:26 <Lucifer> I don't think I'm going to abandon cooking as a hobby, but for right now I'm limiting it to bare essentials
23:27 <nsh22> ah
23:28 <nsh22> well, do what you feel like. if you have a sudden urge to share our recepies, just drop by :P
23:31 -!- K-Yo [n=K-Yo@unaffiliated/k-yo] has quit ["Quitte"]
23:31 <nsh22> oops
23:32 <nsh22> your*
23:32 <nsh22> i cannot type at all today
23:33 <epsy> @list filter
23:33 <teabot> epsy: aol, binary, colorize, gnu, hebrew, hexlify, i18n, jeffk, leet, lithp, morse, outfilter, rainbow, reverse, rot13, scramble, shrink, spellit, squish, stripcolor, supa1337, undup, unhexlify, unmorse, and windows
23:33 <epsy> need a typo filter
23:33 <epsy> @i18n need a typo filter
23:33 <teabot> epsy: n2d a t2o f4r
23:38 <epsy> @i18n [quote random]
23:38 <teabot> epsy: Q3e #1: "8> a6y is a h2h l3l l6e as w3" (4d by e2y at 034 P1, A4t 21, 23)
23:38 <nsh22> #q
23:38 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #21: "<Luke-Jr_work__> btw, pedophile is good" (added by spidey at 06:34 AM, September 09, 2006)
23:38 <nsh22> what??!?!
23:38 <epsy> @windows [quote random]
23:38 <teabot> epsy: QUOTE #2: "<XFRO~1 CUSTOMER SUPPORT IS RETARED" (ADDED BY EPSY AT 07:51 AM, AUGUST 18, 2008)
23:39 <epsy> @i18n [quote random]
23:39 <teabot> epsy: Q3e #1: "8> we a1l l2e in t1e o3r s8, t1e o3r s8, t1e o3r s8" (4d by e2y at 033 P1, O5r 21, 23)
23:39 -!- MrBougo [n=MrBougo@128.222-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit []
23:39 <epsy> now guess what was the original text :P
23:40 <nsh22> ummm no
23:41 <epsy> @windows [quote get 9]
23:41 <teabot> epsy: QUOTE #9: "<LUCI~1 WE ALL LIVE IN THE OTHER SUBMAR~1 THE OTHER SUBMAR~1 THE OTHER SUBMAR~1 (ADDED BY EPSY AT 01:53 PM, OCTOBER 27, 2008)
23:41 <epsy> abomination
23:42 <epsy> @quote get 4
23:42 <teabot> epsy: Quote #4: "<wireddd> assembly is a high level language as well" (added by epsy at 04:34 PM, August 25, 2008)
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23:51 <nsh22> lol@ the other submarine
23:52 <epsy> it's the other SUBMAR~1
23:53 <nsh22> oh my b
23:53 <epsy> y1u b4r be s3y
23:54 <nsh22> do i want to know what that means?
23:54 <epsy> a4y, g2d n3t
23:54 <nsh22> good night
23:54 <epsy> see you understand it :)
23:54 <nsh22> no just that last one
23:56 -!- epsy [n=epsy@unaffiliated/epsy] has quit ["uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝʇıɹʍ sǝop ǝuo ʍoɥ ƃuıɹǝpuoʍ ǝq ʎɐɯ noʎ.. it's pretty simple: JUST WRITE UPSIDE-DOWN!"]
Log from 2009-01-28:
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00:13 -!- Lackadaisical [n=lckdscl@ip202-29-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit ["gone! quit! exit! etc."]
00:15 -!- PinkTomato [n=sam@5aca0671.bb.sky.com] has joined #armagetron
00:15 <nsh22> hey pink
00:16 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-118-162-70.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
00:17 <nsh22> hey smooth
00:17 <smoothice> hi
00:17 <nsh22> you wouldnt know how to get a phpbb spell checker would you?
00:17 <smoothice> yes
00:17 <smoothice> I know how
00:18 <nsh22> is it simple?
00:18 -!- AshitakA [n=AshitakA@pD9E00E01.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["...draws the curtains."]
00:18 <madmax> #ls genki
00:19 <@armabot> madmax: timed out
00:19 * nsh22 is deleteing something he added to try to get a spell checker
00:19 <smoothice> nsh22: http://www.phpbb.com/mods/
00:20 <nsh22> there isnt any actual mods for a spell checker
00:20 <nsh22> i checked
00:20 <smoothice> oh
00:20 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p5087063C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)]
00:20 <smoothice> You'll have to write one then :P
00:20 <madmax> people should use browsers that do so already :)
00:20 <nsh22> ermmmm...
00:21 <nsh22> im looking into that
00:24 <Genki> madmax: ???
00:24 <Genki> #ls madmax
00:24 <@armabot> Genki: madmax has last been seen on Fortress Café 45 minutes ago.
00:24 <Genki> :O
00:25 <smoothice> #ls smoothice~nw
00:25 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
00:25 <madmax> I was curious whether you still played or not
00:25 <smoothice> ...
00:25 <Genki> I do
00:25 <Genki> but I has secret namez
00:25 <smoothice> #ls Genki
00:25 <madmax> lol
00:25 <smoothice> #ls genki
00:25 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
00:25 <smoothice> fail
00:25 <Genki> :]
00:26 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
00:26 <nsh22> #Lastseen smoothice
00:26 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
00:26 <smoothice> #ls SmOoThice~NW
00:26 <smoothice> ...
00:26 <nsh22> #lastseen smooth
00:26 <Genki> #ls smoothice
00:26 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
00:26 <nsh22> search party!
00:26 <smoothice> ...
00:26 <Genki> lol
00:26 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
00:27 <@armabot> Genki: timed out
00:27 <nsh22> #lastseen neal
00:27 <Genki> #lastseen Zurd
00:27 <@armabot> nsh22: Neal~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing~ 3 hours 40 minutes ago.
00:27 <@armabot> Genki: timed out
00:27 <Genki> !!!
00:30 <nsh22> smoothice : no mods for spell check :(
00:30 <smoothice> :(
00:30 <nsh22> anybody know how to get a spell checker on a hphbb3 forum?
00:31 <smoothice> #phpbb
00:31 <nsh22> the do do f*** all
00:31 <nsh22> never answer my questions....
00:31 <madmax> why do you need a spell checker in phpbb?
00:32 <PinkTomato> People should install a spell checker in their browser if they want spell check
00:32 <madmax> can't your browser do it?
00:32 <nsh22> because im horrible at spelling
00:32 <nsh22> no
00:32 <PinkTomato> it keeps to the uniformed design ethics
00:32 <madmax> exactly PinkTomato
00:32 <nsh22> i dont think it can
00:32 <nsh22> how could it, its ie
00:32 <nsh22> ie7*
00:32 <nsh22> it doesnt have a spell checker
00:32 <madmax> well, ever considered switching to something better?
00:32 <PinkTomato> Google Toolbar does
00:33 <nsh22> oh
00:33 <madmax> nooo, you should persuade him to switch browsers, not install that :<
00:33 <nsh22> madmax : cant, mom wont let me (shes paranoiud that her identity will get stolen or we will get a virus
00:33 <nsh22> why wouldnt i install it?
00:33 <PinkTomato> you have less chance of that happening if you use firefox
00:34 <PinkTomato> and you don't have to 'install' it
00:34 <nsh22> i tried to explain that to her....
00:34 <nsh22> install the toolbar?
00:34 <PinkTomato> http://portableapps.com/
00:34 <PinkTomato> you don't 'install' firefox if you use that
00:36 <PinkTomato> nsh22: One could argue the toolbar is a privacy risk
00:36 <nsh22> oic
00:36 <PinkTomato> so the better solution is firefox
00:37 <PinkTomato> Google's spell check is slow too,
00:37 <PinkTomato> 21% of internet users use Firefox
00:37 <nsh22> il just get spellcow
00:37 <ct|kyle> opera
00:37 <ct|kyle> :P
00:38 * madmax agrees
00:38 <PinkTomato> I haven't use Opera from my dialup days :)
00:38 <nsh22> ??
00:38 <PinkTomato> @g Opera
00:38 <teabot> PinkTomato: http://www.opera.com/ - Opera Browser | Faster & safer Internet | Free Download
00:38 <nsh22> oh, browser
00:38 <ct|kyle> i was surprised too see how much like chrome it is
00:38 <PinkTomato> I don't like Chrome
00:39 <ct|kyle> i still use FF3, but i may transition to opera it seams a lot better
00:39 <PinkTomato> I would miss Greasemonkey
00:40 <PinkTomato> and several other FF3 extentions
00:41 <nsh22> well that didnt work...
00:41 <PinkTomato> nsh22: what is spellcow?
00:41 <nsh22> spellcow fucked my site up....momentariy
00:41 <nsh22> its a spell check thingy
00:42 <nsh22> http://www.spellingcow.com/
00:42 <PinkTomato> phpbb3 extensions do that
00:42 <nsh22> huh?
00:43 <PinkTomato> PHPbb extensions, I have had nothing but trouble with them
00:43 <smoothice> PinkTomato: there aren't any MODs for spelling
00:43 <PinkTomato> smoothice: nsh22 is after spelling mods :)
00:43 <PinkTomato> I said install a spell check in browser ^^
00:43 <madmax> "SpellingCow is the first application to use COWS Ajax, the next evolution in web2.0." oh noes!
00:44 <smoothice> lol~
00:44 <nsh22> i know what u said
00:45 <nsh22> ok, back to the portable apps, i can isntall firefox onto my portable hd from that site?
00:46 <PinkTomato> it's not installing ;)
00:46 <smoothice> nsh22: yes
00:46 <nsh22> "downloading" then
00:47 <nsh22> 23 gb for firefox? hmmm
00:47 <nsh22> good thing i have an 80gb hd
00:47 <PinkTomato> Your doing it wrong obviously ^^
00:47 <nsh22> ?
00:47 <nsh22> how so
00:47 <smoothice> 23 GB for firefox?
00:47 <smoothice> :O
00:47 <smoothice> firefox is like 9 megabytes lol
00:47 <nsh22> lemme check
00:50 <nsh22> smoothice : errrr, what does this mean when its on the top of a site: nt="no" />
00:50 <smoothice> I don't know
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01:03 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
01:03 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 17.1°F (7:02 PM EST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024.3 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 PM EST Wednesday...
01:03 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
01:03 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 10.9°F (7:03 PM EST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -4.0°F. Windchill: 10.4°F. Pressure: 29.41 in 995.8 hPa (Falling).
01:03 <nsh22> im colder
01:04 <smoothice> #weather Dallas
01:04 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
01:04 <smoothice> ....
01:04 <smoothice> DUMB!
01:04 <nsh22> it hates yo usmooth
01:07 <nsh22> YAY FIREFOX DOES FIX MY ERRORS WEWT
01:07 <smoothice> lol
01:08 <madmax> #g 10 f in c
01:08 <@armabot> madmax: 10 degrees Fahrenheit = -12.2222222 degrees Celsius
01:09 <madmax> well that's cold
01:09 <nsh22> yup
01:09 <nsh22> #g -30C in F
01:09 <@armabot> nsh22: (-30) degrees Celsius = -22 degrees Fahrenheit
01:09 <nsh22> so is this
01:09 <nsh22> all last week
01:09 <nsh22> every morining
01:11 <smoothice> #g define: Armagetron
01:11 <smoothice> #alias g
01:11 <@armabot> smoothice: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
01:11 <madmax> #weather lppt
01:11 <@armabot> smoothice: (google calc <expression>) -- Uses Google's calculator to calculate the value of <expression>.
01:11 <@armabot> madmax: The current temperature in Montijo, Portugal is 55.4°F (11:00 PM WET on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
01:11 <nsh22> #google define: armagetron
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: No matches found. (Search took 0.00 seconds)
01:11 <smoothice> #calc Fail in English
01:11 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
01:11 <smoothice> #unload Google
01:11 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
01:11 <nsh22> #g fail in french
01:11 <@armabot> nsh22: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
01:12 <nsh22> #g fail
01:12 <@armabot> nsh22: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
01:12 <madmax> whoa ease up on armabot
01:12 <smoothice> armabot is wrtlprnft's
01:12 <nsh22> ohs
01:17 <smoothice> lol
01:17 <nsh22> wtf
01:17 <nsh22> lol
01:19 <luke-jr> nsh22: qooc
01:19 <smoothice> qooc?
01:20 <nsh22> luke-jr : what?
01:21 <luke-jr> nsh22: quoted out of context
01:22 <luke-jr> nsh22: I was speakign about the literal roots of the word 'pedophile'
01:22 <luke-jr> eg, 'one who loves children'
01:22 <luke-jr> not the modern perversion
01:22 <nsh22> oh i c
01:23 <nsh22> looked very creepy att
01:24 <luke-jr> >_<
01:24 <nsh22> anybody listen to the gorillaz?
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03:21 <raph> hi
03:22 <raph> hello?
03:22 <TaZ> hi raph
03:22 <raph> would anyone happen to have the settings for the WILDCAT server?
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04:00 <BabyBug> #n9
04:00 <@armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (2/16): arc1ou3x, C$ T@NK (Drugocolypse@tron.nexusnine.org)
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05:22 <Genki> #weather Tucson
05:22 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Speedway & Euclid, Tucson, Arizona is 46.9°F (9:22 PM MST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 44.6°F. Pressure: 30.15 in 1020.9 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am MST Wednesday...
05:25 * BabyBug pokes Genki
05:25 * ct|kyle pokes BabyBug with Genki
05:25 <Genki> ow
05:25 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
05:25 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 17.1°F (11:25 PM EST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 14.0°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 PM EST Wednesday...
05:25 <Genki> yes?
05:25 * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle off a cliff and cover herself in grease so he can't grab on
05:25 <Genki> #weather 85747
05:25 <BabyBug> Hiya!
05:25 <@armabot> Genki: The current temperature in Overlook at Del Lago, Vail, Arizona is 41.0°F (9:12 PM MST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 24.8°F. Windchill: 41.0°F. Pressure: 30.44 in 1030.7 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am MST Wednesday...
05:25 <Genki> T.T
05:25 <Genki> 41
05:26 <Genki> I was outside in shorts and a t-shirt
05:26 <Genki> walking my dog
05:26 <Genki> for an hour
05:26 <Genki> T.T
05:26 <BabyBug> #g 41 F in C
05:26 <@armabot> BabyBug: 41 degrees Fahrenheit = 5 degrees Celsius
05:26 <BabyBug> same as here =D
05:26 <ct|kyle> .cinf 17.1
05:26 <ct|kyle> #cinf 17.1
05:26 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 62.78
05:27 <ct|kyle> #g 17.1F in C
05:27 <@armabot> ct|kyle: 17.1 degrees Fahrenheit = -8.27777778 degrees Celsius
05:27 <Genki> O.o
05:27 <ct|kyle> i was going to guess -5
05:28 * BabyBug gives Genki a HUGE cuddle =D
05:28 <Genki> yey
05:28 * Genki is warm now
05:28 <BabyBug> \o/
05:29 * ct|kyle hopes my class gets canceled tomorrow
05:29 <ct|kyle> about 3 CM of snow now
05:29 <ct|kyle> but it is windy also
05:30 <BabyBug> boohoo
05:30 <BabyBug> at least you get fricken snow
05:30 <ct|kyle> this year has brought quite a bit compared to the last 4 of 5 years
05:34 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
05:34 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 30.7°F (10:30 PM CST on January 27, 2009). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 28.4°F. Windchill: 24.8°F. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023.2 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect until 11 am CST Wednesday...
05:34 <Lucifer> winter came back for a day
05:35 <BabyBug> #google last day of winter
05:35 <@armabot> BabyBug: Search took 0.12 seconds: Seasons: <http://www.holidaysmart.com/seasons.htm>; THIS IS THE LAST DAY OF WINTER ; To-morrow Marks the Official ...: <http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40A12F83F5D12738DDDA10A94DA405B898CF1D3>; WikiAnswers - When is the last day of winter 2009: <http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_is_the_last_day_of_winter_2009>; Last day of winter on Flickr - (3 more messages)
05:36 <BabyBug> #help g
05:36 <@armabot> BabyBug: (g <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "google calc $*".
05:36 <BabyBug> #alias add calc google calc $*
05:36 <@armabot> BabyBug: The operation succeeded.
05:36 <BabyBug> that's so much easier to remember \o/
05:40 <Lucifer> I don't talk to people who describe config items/map xml as "codes"
05:40 <BabyBug> who describes them as codes? lol
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05:52 <Lucifer> http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202737#202737
05:53 <smoothice> #later tell PinkTomato they dedicated resources to the test download to fix download issues! w00t!
05:53 <@armabot> smoothice: The operation succeeded.
05:54 <BabyBug> lol Lucifer, you meanie
05:54 <Lucifer> I want to respond to that post and say "the 80s called, and they want their technoretard back"
05:55 <smoothice> lol
05:55 <BabyBug> No ><
05:55 <Lucifer> awwww, you're no fun :(
05:55 <BabyBug> you're banned from doing that!
05:55 <Lucifer> great, now you're a librarian?
05:56 <Lucifer> well, I reduced my chili intake by half tonight
05:56 <BabyBug> no fun? come to wales and i'll show you how wrong you are ;)
05:56 <Lucifer> so now I"m only going to smell half of my ass for a little while
05:56 <BabyBug> uhh.....ew? =P
05:56 <Lucifer> heh
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06:26 <@armabot> armacommits: [old-glancing] r751 Merge with trunk... || [old-glancing] r750 Merge with trunk...
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07:26 <Lucifer> filesharing will never replace music stores in one important function
07:26 <Lucifer> when I want to impulsively acquire an entire album, I have to wait for it to download
07:26 <Lucifer> if I could just go down to the music store and buy it, then I have it ready to listen to immediately
07:26 <Lucifer> (not that I'm going to do that, of course, heh)
07:29 <Stewah> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/26/AR2009012601831.html <--- High Fructose Corn Syrup is more dangerous than expected
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07:50 <flea> Lucifer, no, your internet just sucks
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11:42 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8913 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added Windows build for revision just before utf8 merge.
11:42 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
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12:08 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8914 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/win32/code_blocks/ (ArmagetronAd.cbp Dedicated.cbp Master.cbp): Adapted to utf8 merge.
12:37 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8915 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Download from SF.
12:37 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
12:45 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r814 Added utf8.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r813 Adapted to utf8 merge.
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12:49 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8916 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. NEWS): Manuel Moos: Added utf8.
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13:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8917 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Moved round rotation to a later stage of the round reset, just before the settings are sent.
13:18 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8918 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/tron/gGame.cpp): Manuel Moos: Rotation type is now an enum.
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13:49 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r816 Rotation type is now an enum.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r815 Moved round rotation to a later stage of the round reset, ju...
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15:58 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r848 Merge from trunk...
15:58 <nsh22> hey
16:20 <luke-jr> I gtg, someone plz smack idiots who say they want a "file" or "folder" on the resource repo, and tell them to RTFM
16:20 <luke-jr> kthx
16:20 <nsh22> lol
16:21 <nsh22> RTFM?
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16:26 <nsh22> ah. i know now
16:26 <nsh22> lol
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16:39 <epsy> read the first message
16:39 <epsy> er
16:39 <epsy> repeat**
16:39 <nsh22> ?
16:42 <epsy> RTFM
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16:44 <nsh22> lol
16:44 <nsh22> way to lazy to do that
16:45 <epsy> RTFM!!
16:45 <nsh22> you!
16:45 <epsy> REPEAT THE FIRST MESSAGE!
16:46 <nsh22> oh
16:46 <nsh22> i thought it meant read the fucking manual
16:46 <nsh22> lol
16:46 <epsy> @g repeat the first message
16:46 <nsh22> my b
16:46 <teabot> epsy: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/Repeat+the+First+Message - Repeat the First Message - What does RTFM stand for? Acronyms and ...
16:46 <epsy> @g repeat the first message uncyclopedia
16:46 <nsh22> #google RTFM
16:46 <teabot> epsy: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/RTFM - RTFM - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
16:46 <@armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.27 seconds: RTFM - Definition by AcronymFinder: <http://www.acronymfinder.com/RTFM.html>; ThinkGeek :: RTFM: <http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/3239/>; RTFM Education: <http://www.rtfm-ed.co.uk/>; xkcd - A Webcomic - RTFM: <http://cu.nniling.us/293/>; Best Practical: RTFM : The RT FAQ Manager: <http://bestpractical.com/rtfm/>; rtfm .mit.edu: (1 more message)
16:47 <epsy> [17:46] <teabot>: epsy: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/RTFM - RTFM - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
16:48 <nsh22> question: how do you add a quote to the bot or were wever they are stored(or can modsa nd adminsonly do that)
16:48 <epsy> what
16:48 <epsy> RTFM
16:48 * nsh22 sighs
16:48 <epsy> oh
16:49 <epsy> well, the phrase in parenthesis is eaten by typos
16:49 <epsy> @list quote
16:49 <teabot> epsy: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
16:49 <epsy> @stats
16:49 <teabot> epsy: I have 8 registered users with 10 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 1 admin.
16:49 <epsy> @quote stats
16:49 <teabot> epsy: There are 9 quotes in my database.
16:51 <nsh22> oh
16:51 <nsh22> #q
16:51 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #42: "The future doesn't belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave. - Ronald Reagen, in his address following the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger" (added by Lucifer_arma at 02:03 PM, January 02, 2007)
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16:52 <epsy> also
16:52 <epsy> @list factoids
16:52 <teabot> epsy: change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, search, unlock, and whatis
16:53 <nsh22> #list quotes
16:53 <@armabot> nsh22: Error: 'quotes' is not a valid plugin.
16:53 <nsh22> #list quote
16:53 <@armabot> nsh22: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats
16:53 <epsy> zomg ct|kyle
16:53 <epsy> mm
16:53 <nsh22> what he do?
16:53 <epsy> zomg xfroggy
16:54 <teabot> epsy: "xfroggy" is (#1) D:, or (#2) http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6946/goatgr6.jpg
16:54 <epsy> and you can also fetch bugs like bug 1337 for example
16:54 <teabot> Launchpad bug 1337 in malone "Distro release tasks should include name of distro" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337
17:05 <nsh22> oh noes, i only have 5 more songs left on my playlist!
17:05 <epsy> world will explode :(
17:05 <nsh22> porbably
17:05 <nsh22> probably*
17:05 <nsh22> then ill just leave it at 199 songs lol
17:14 <epsy> python time
17:14 <nsh22> python you say? what you doin on there?
17:15 <epsy> editing supybot's factoids plugin
17:15 <nsh22> lol @ supybot i couldnt get it to work on my otheer channel
17:15 <nsh22> but as ive said before, im very dumb when it comes to programming...
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18:05 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r849 Factored out message streaming functions into subclass. Lots...
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18:35 <nsh22> hey, would anybody be willing to help someone set up a sty patch on their home server (not me, sombody else)
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18:39 <wrtlprnft> what OS?
18:39 <nsh22> hes coming on here...
18:40 <nsh22> hes using windows 7 0.o
18:41 <nsh22> is it compatable?
18:41 <wrtlprnft> probably, but i have no clue
18:41 <wrtlprnft> but he should maybe rethink his intention of running windows 7 as a home server
18:42 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
18:43 <nsh22> fik
18:43 <nsh22> armabot is gone.,,
18:43 <nsh22> @weather
18:44 <wrtlprnft> yeah, i'm about to upgrade that server
18:44 <wrtlprnft> hardware-wise
18:44 <nsh22> ah
18:44 <wrtlprnft> plus i'm compiling a new kernel, and supybot takes just too much CPU time
18:44 * nsh22 is easily confused by programmers jargon
18:48 <wrtlprnft> grml. avoid compiling a kernel on a PII 400MHz box at all costs
18:48 <wrtlprnft> infact, avoid doing anything with 400MHz
18:48 <nsh22> #google grml
18:48 <nsh22> damn it
18:49 <nsh22> i forgot...
18:49 <nsh22> what does grml mean to you? i got General Reuse Markup Language off wikipedia
18:50 <madmax> @cyborg grml
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18:51 <madmax> -_-
18:51 <nsh22> 0o
18:51 <nsh22> ok thats the guy i was tellin you about
18:51 <TheBeyonder> :/ yo
18:51 <nsh22> talk to wrtlprnft
18:52 <TheBeyonder> is there a prepatched arm with styball?
18:52 <TheBeyonder> or better instructions?
18:52 <wrtlprnft> not that i know of, and it's probably not current
18:52 <wrtlprnft> *up to date
18:53 <TheBeyonder> right
18:53 <TheBeyonder> k
18:53 <TheBeyonder> well imon centos5.2
18:53 <wrtlprnft> phew
18:53 <TheBeyonder> patching has been problematic and unclear
18:53 <wrtlprnft> not windows 7
18:53 <wrtlprnft> install bzr
18:53 <TheBeyonder> ohhhh
18:53 <TheBeyonder> no
18:53 <TheBeyonder> my laptop is
18:53 <TheBeyonder> let me ssh in
18:54 <wrtlprnft> then do bzr branch lp:~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
18:54 <wrtlprnft> that should give you a fully patched relatively up to date sty source
18:55 <wrtlprnft> and then it's the usual stuff… ./bootstrap.sh && ./configure --disable-glout && make && su -c 'make install'
18:55 <wrtlprnft> and install any missing dependencies on the way
18:55 <TheBeyonder> :/ let me see
18:57 <TheBeyonder> meh i am not getting this very well
18:58 <TheBeyonder> brb
18:58 <TheBeyonder> starting from scratch
18:59 <TheBeyonder> ls
18:59 <TheBeyonder> oops
19:00 <wrtlprnft> bin boot dev etc home lib media mnt opt proc root sbin suspend_file sys tmp usr var www2
19:01 <TheBeyonder> lol :)
19:01 <wrtlprnft> zsh: command not found: oops
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19:01 <nsh22> hey liz
19:03 <nsh22> i wonder whos on ts
19:06 <nsh22> fuck its snowing hard outr there...
19:07 <Concord> yeah here too
19:07 <TheBeyonder> rain here
19:07 <TheBeyonder> 60 degrees lol
19:07 <TheBeyonder> Atlanta is weird
19:07 <nsh22> if we had the armabot back, i could check my weather...
19:07 <nsh22> lol
19:08 <nsh22> concord, do u have time for some training?
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19:08 <Concord> I will in like 35 min
19:08 <nsh22> ok
19:08 <nsh22> ty
19:08 <Concord> I heard you have a conflict on 8th, thats sucks
19:08 <nsh22> huh?
19:09 <Concord> are you playing ladle?
19:09 <nsh22> lemme chck my sceduale
19:12 <nsh22> fuck, ya i have curling
19:12 <Concord> thats what i thought :P
19:12 * nsh22 hates curling more every year
19:12 <nsh22> its a cold sport and you throw rocks at ppl
19:12 <nsh22> its suprising how many ppl cant do it
19:13 <nsh22> like half of my team....
19:13 <TheBeyonder> Whoo, large tarball
19:13 <TheBeyonder> oh my it downloaded everything
19:13 <TheBeyonder> ls
19:13 <TheBeyonder> damnit
19:14 <nsh22> btw, what programs can compile?
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19:21 <TheBeyonder> i give up
19:21 <TheBeyonder> i dont have time to do this
19:21 <nsh22> lol
19:21 <TheBeyonder> anyone want to make 20?
19:21 <TheBeyonder> sorry its just that I dont have 2 hours to spend on this
19:23 <TheBeyonder> ok guess not
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19:24 <nsh22> ppl on here are generally gdoing other things and not paying attention to irc so it amay take a while for them to notice
19:24 <madmax> well say what's going wrong along the process...
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19:35 <nsh22> wb
19:39 * nsh22 is going to make brownies, ill bring some back when im done
19:39 <nsh22> :D
19:44 <Concord> nsh22 theres a bunch of players in cafe
19:44 <Concord> I'll be there
19:44 <Concord> good train with match like circumstances
19:50 <nsh22> Concord : ill be there in like 10-15 mins,
19:50 <Concord> kk
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19:51 <TheBeyonder> last offer, anyone want to make 20.00US to install ctfs on a linux server?
19:52 <TheBeyonder> I am having trouble with the patch
19:52 <TheBeyonder> and dont have time to fix :S
19:52 <TheBeyonder> ......
19:54 <madmax> you can save the 20 by saying what you can't do :)
19:55 <TheBeyonder> I cant patch and build a ctfs server
19:55 <TheBeyonder> And I dont have time to figure it out :(
19:55 <TheBeyonder> Work and all that
19:55 <madmax> well that's as general as it gets
19:56 <TheBeyonder> On a CentOS 5.2 based x86 server I am trying to install Armagetronad-dedicated that is patched with styball and pigsty for a ctfs board
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--- Log opened Wed Jan 28 22:23:12 2009
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22:23 -!- Irssi: #armagetron: Total of 36 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 36 normal]
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22:23 <wrtlprnft> CRAPPY ANNOYING TWO HOUR EATING PERSISTENT DEVICE NAMES
22:24 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:24 <nsh22> hey hey hey
22:26 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron
22:26 <nsh22> wewt
22:26 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
22:27 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 20.5°F (4:26 PM EST on January 28, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 28.70 in 971.8 hPa (Falling).
22:27 <nsh22> yay
22:27 <nsh22> ewhat, that makes no sense, windchill is hiugher than normal temp...
22:28 <nsh22> oh and ty wrtlprnft
22:28 <wrtlprnft> for what?
22:28 <nsh22> the bot :)
22:29 <nsh22> isnt it yours?
22:29 <wrtlprnft> i just spent two hours on trying to get eth0 up just to find out that it's now named eth1
22:29 <wrtlprnft> yeah, it's mine
22:29 <wrtlprnft> she!
22:29 <nsh22> lol
22:29 <nsh22> what is eth1?
22:29 <wrtlprnft> network interface name
22:29 <nsh22> ok....
22:30 <wrtlprnft> the name of one's network card, sloppily said
22:30 <nsh22> ah
22:31 <wrtlprnft> another one of those really dumb problems. Everything works from a live CD, you know you've loaded the right modules, everything's set up… just it doesn't work
22:31 <nsh22> lol
22:31 <wrtlprnft> and convieniently the graphics always got scrambled halfway through the boot process
22:31 <nsh22> the biggest error in computers are humans
22:31 <wrtlprnft> so you can't see what happens, and without a network connection you can't find out from the outside
22:31 <wrtlprnft> all i could do was type blindly
22:31 <nsh22> lol
22:32 <wrtlprnft> you could see when the screen scolled down a line
22:32 <nsh22> so obviously u managed to get it fixed?
22:32 <wrtlprnft> so i blindly typed commands that either printed one line or lots of lines depending on some condition
22:32 <nsh22> lol
22:32 <wrtlprnft> which eventually lead me to the problem… veeery slowly
22:33 <nsh22> and it was eth1?
22:33 <wrtlprnft> well, eth1 used to be eth0
22:33 <wrtlprnft> and all the scripts were set up to optain an IP address and everything for eth0
22:34 <wrtlprnft> which all failed since eth0 didn't exist
22:34 <nsh22> ah and since it changed to eth1, u were fuckd
22:34 <nsh22> i ce
22:34 <wrtlprnft> exactly
22:34 <wrtlprnft> oh, and i had two keyboards, too… one ps2, one usb
22:35 <wrtlprnft> in some stages of the boot process one would work, in other stages the other would
22:35 <nsh22> ps2 being the port, not the console ? XD
22:35 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:35 <nsh22> ok
22:35 <wrtlprnft> i thought that was clear with usb being just two words after ps2
22:36 <nsh22> XD ps2's have usb portsa as well
22:36 <nsh22> lol i knew what yuou were talking about
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8919 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp):
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: Carefully clarified our odd signed arithmetics during string
22:36 <armabot> armagetronad: encoding/decoding to the compiler.
22:36 <nsh22> im not completely ddoumb.../me thinks about that....
22:36 <wrtlprnft> hehe
22:37 <wrtlprnft> well, anyways, let's try to enjoy the benefits… it's got a gigabit ethernet card now and two shiny 1TB harddrives
22:37 <wrtlprnft> a little overkill for 400MHz, but who cares
22:37 <nsh22> lol 2tb?
22:37 <nsh22> wtf needs 2 TBs
22:38 <wrtlprnft> to date, i've filled every single partition i've ever owned
22:39 <nsh22> o0, with what? pron?
22:39 <wrtlprnft> all kinds of stuff
22:39 <nsh22> how soon till you fill the 2 tb?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> well, those HDs replaced two older 300GB ones…
22:40 <nsh22> ah
22:40 <wrtlprnft> and if i decide to put the new ones into a raid i'll already have used 600GB
22:40 <nsh22> is ur comp custom?
22:40 <wrtlprnft> but i probably won't
22:41 <wrtlprnft> that old thing? customized I guess. The case wasn't exactly meant to hold five harddisks. It's still a nice case though, for its time
22:41 <nsh22> 5 hard disks? lol
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22:42 <wrtlprnft> i've got everything from 10GB to (now) 1TB in there
22:42 <nsh22> lol
22:42 <nsh22> little bit of everything
22:42 <wrtlprnft> the 10GB one being the root file system
22:42 <nsh22> and you said you only had a 400MHZ processor?
22:43 <wrtlprnft> well, it's a file/web/ircbot server for the most part
22:43 <nsh22> you rocmp is?
22:43 <nsh22> your comp*
22:43 <wrtlprnft> that comp
22:44 <nsh22> ah
22:44 <wrtlprnft> then i've got a laptop and a relatively brand new PC
22:44 <wrtlprnft> but both aren't on all the time
22:44 <nsh22> my pc is seriously like 67 years old now...
22:44 <nsh22> 6-7*
22:44 <nsh22> and it actually works quite well
22:44 <wrtlprnft> haha
22:45 <nsh22> im impressed now that i think about it
22:45 <wrtlprnft> well, that box must be ten years old at least
22:45 <nsh22> stupid old POS comp
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22:45 <nsh22> ll i have a windows 98 imn my basement
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22:46 <nsh22> and up until 2 years ago i had 1 windows 3.1
22:46 <wrtlprnft> wtf
22:46 <nsh22> but the battery wa fucked in it so it didnt work
22:46 <wrtlprnft> and you were surfing with that?
22:46 <nsh22> no
22:46 <nsh22> lol imagine the ping.....
22:46 <nsh22> id rather noy
22:48 <nsh22> not*
22:48 <nsh22> aw, i remember a game from that 3.1 comp, one of the old, fat floppys
22:48 <nsh22> its was awesome
22:54 * nsh22 made brownies, but forgot to put walnut in it XC
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23:01 * nsh22 is fail at fort
23:16 <wrtlprnft> ah, great, gotta reboot again
23:21 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/Arena/Basic-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
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23:23 <ct|kyle> #pint
23:24 <ct|kyle> #ping
23:24 <armabot> pong
23:24 <ct|kyle> 20 second lag not bad :P
23:25 <wrtlprnft> well, it's compiling yet another new kernel
23:25 <wrtlprnft> and i might get a better box suitable for running a server quite soon
23:25 <ct|kyle> heh
23:34 <wrtlprnft> CC fs/bio.o
23:34 <wrtlprnft> green kernel :-)
23:35 <nsh22> ?
23:36 <nsh22> what is arma on, sourceforge or launchpad?
23:38 <PinkTomato> use launchpad
23:38 <nsh22> ok
23:44 <nsh22> are there any bugs in which a noob programmer (i.e.me) could fix?
23:45 <PinkTomato> see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/armagetronad
23:45 <nsh22> im there
23:48 <K-Yo> then you should see if you can fix those or not :)
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00:08 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-118-162-70.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
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00:12 <test> #ls sustain
00:12 <armabot> test: SusTain has last been seen on Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud) 52 minutes ago.
00:13 <test> #ls istink
00:13 <armabot> test: timed out
00:13 <smoothice> #ls Blaze
00:13 <test> #ls playur 1
00:13 <armabot> smoothice: Blaze has last been seen on {Delicious Desserts} Racing II 5 minutes ago.
00:14 <test> hi smoothice
00:14 <smoothice> hi test
00:14 <smoothice> who are you?
00:14 <test> #ls Put name here
00:14 <armabot> test: Playur 1 has last been seen on Wall-E Land (Loose DF Touching Walls Aloud) 56 minutes ago.
00:15 <armabot> test: Put Name Here has last been seen on .:] Twisted Rats [:. Sumo 22 minutes ago.
00:15 <smoothice> #ls smoothice~nw
00:16 <armabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~CTFS~ 2 minutes ago.
00:16 <test> Goodbye
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00:20 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/1v1/1v1ctfdome-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
00:39 <madmax> #tea
00:39 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1003 Carefully clarified our odd signed arithmetics during string...
00:40 <armabot> madmax: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
00:41 * BabyBug throws tea at madmax
00:41 <BabyBug> #n9
00:41 <armabot> BabyBug: Nexus9 Deathmatch (NO RUBBER!): Players (1/16): C$ Tank
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00:58 <madmax> thanks BabyBug
00:58 <BabyBug> yw hunni
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01:27 <smoothice> z-man: http://forums.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=202771#202771
01:28 <z-man> Interesting.
01:30 <z-man> But why don't you start from the trunk? That'll make it easier to integrate later.
01:30 <smoothice> I thought people still really liked 0.2.8
01:30 <smoothice> Because it is stable
01:33 <smoothice> z-man: I could create two branches... one 0.2.8 and one trunk
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01:34 <z-man> The server code on the trunk is about as stable as 0.2.8, most changes have been made on the presentation side.
01:34 <smoothice> What do you think of making two branches?
01:34 <z-man> The only reason people aren't running 0.3.x servers is that they have no new features over 0.2.8 :)
01:34 <smoothice> oh
01:35 <z-man> and, of course, the existing hacks for 0.2.8.
01:35 <z-man> I wonder whether sty+cy can be ported over to the trunk.
01:35 <ct|kyle> z-man: is the rotation still broken or do you know what revision it broke at?
01:36 <z-man> As far as I know, rotation is working on both branches now.
01:36 <ct|kyle> once sty gets zones v2 i plan on porting the CT stuff into it
01:36 <CodeHunter> z-man: I just installed both the 0.2.8.3 that you released and then ran .3.0 that you released this month. However, I notice that in the .2.8.3 version, I get way higher FPS
01:37 <ct|kyle> then I'll put up a test server and make sure that it has not changed in last year
01:37 <z-man> Big surprise, as 0.3 has more graphics stuff.
01:37 <smoothice> z-man: I wanted to do 0.2.8 because a lot of PVP stuff these days is sty patch related. 0.3-sty is really buggy and 0.2.8-sty isn't as much.
01:38 <CodeHunter> ohh that makes more sense :P
01:38 <CodeHunter> z-man: I LOVE the .3.0 smart cam.. it doesnt move when you hit a wall like it does on the .2.8 versions
01:38 <z-man> smoothice: your project, your decision :)
01:38 <CodeHunter> Is there any way to incorperate that into the .2.8 version?
01:38 <z-man> Guys, umm, its sort of 2 AM here.
01:38 <CodeHunter> oh :( sorry
01:38 <z-man> and NO.
01:38 <smoothice> z-man: alright :) Just getting an opinion from the creator of almighty "tron" :P
01:38 <CodeHunter> LOL
01:39 <CodeHunter> fine zman :P just a wish upon a star :D
01:39 <CodeHunter> btw, link me to tanks file thingy before you gotta go to bed :(
01:39 <z-man> I don't know where they are myself.
01:39 <CodeHunter> =o
01:40 <z-man> I'd look in the svn repository on sourceforge.
01:40 <CodeHunter> okie
01:42 <CodeHunter> z-man: I am a sourceforge noob... where is the repository?
01:43 <CodeHunter> nvm got it i think
01:43 <armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r854 Fixed compatibility with old receivers for old style sync me... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r853 Fixed broadcast messages.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r852 Whoops, forgot the factored out files.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r851 Send buffer now also operates on byte basis.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r850 Receive buffer is now a byt
01:47 <smoothice> z-man: What is se_NeedsServer?
01:48 <Flex> ct|kyle, don't you think "open sumo" should rather be called 'open team sumo'? whatever open means..
01:49 * BabyBug agrees!
01:49 <z-man> smoothice: setting items like KICK that only work on the server call it, it informs the user on the client that it's an illegal command
01:50 <z-man> anyway, night :)
01:50 <ct|kyle> you can still have 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1.... it is up to players to decide what one to use :)
01:50 <ct|kyle> goodnight z-man
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01:50 <BabyBug> ct|kyle, that's just silly :P
01:54 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/OnlineRacing1/Charriot-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
01:55 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/OnlineRacing1/Cherrio-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
01:55 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/OnlineRacing1/Moon-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
01:56 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/Blaze/OnlineRacing1/Sun-1.0.1.aamap.xml: Resource by Blaze
02:09 <CodeHunter> ct|kyle: Do you know where to get that browser list that is in the bottom of the arma forums? z-man said it should be open source but I cannot find it in the repository
02:10 <ct|kyle> CodeHunter: easyer way http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/ I think you will want http://crazy-tronners.com/wrtl/main_page_browser.zip
02:11 <ct|kyle> well that is the one on ct's forums
02:11 <ct|kyle> should be about the same though
02:11 <CodeHunter> ct|kyle: Thanks. Any special requirments?
02:12 <CodeHunter> Do i just upload all files via FTP?
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02:12 <CodeHunter> And in the readme: screen: as in the unix command?
02:12 <CodeHunter> sup sai
02:12 <CodeHunter> Damn your eyes!
02:12 <noob_saibot> howz it goin
02:12 <CodeHunter> good good
02:13 <ct|kyle> basically you run the script to get the data every minute
02:14 <CodeHunter> Hmm, so i will need a cronjob?
02:14 <ct|kyle> and then you import it into bottom of forums with i think there is a code in there
02:14 <ct|kyle> ya
02:14 <CodeHunter> That sucks. My host will not allow a cronjob to be ran >:(
02:14 <ct|kyle> cron to run the script
02:15 <ct|kyle> CodeHunter: will they allow you a script to just be running?
02:16 <CodeHunter> I'm sure they will, but I have not found a way to do that.
02:16 <ct|kyle> you could modify it to sleep for a minute
02:16 <CodeHunter> The only way i know of is cronjobs
02:17 <noob_saibot> i can go for a cronjob right about now
02:18 <CodeHunter> heh
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02:24 <SignalOne> hello
02:24 <noob_saibot> hey ginger balls
02:25 <SignalOne> lets see smoothice is familiar
02:25 <SignalOne> and noob _saibot
02:25 <SignalOne> hey saibot
02:25 <SignalOne> wtf is up!
02:25 <smoothice> ?
02:25 <SignalOne> just know your names from playing in tron
02:25 <SignalOne> seen you around allot
02:26 <SignalOne> help me with my config ill give you waffles
02:27 <epsy> can you please state your problem..
02:27 <CodeHunter> hah
02:28 <SignalOne> ctf zones dont respawn
02:28 <SignalOne> they win
02:28 <noob_saibot> hey
02:28 <epsy> because they vanish??
02:28 <SignalOne> yup
02:28 <noob_saibot> who are you Signal1
02:28 <SignalOne> http://ak4clan/conscript is me
02:28 <epsy> check that fortress_conqu settings are all set to 0
02:29 <SignalOne> ok
02:29 <SignalOne> i would think since clans battle there would be a global cfg for ctf but i guess not
02:29 <noob_saibot> k
02:30 <CodeHunter> Ah, the .iZm person.
02:30 <epsy> well CTF is still not "globally" supported
02:30 <BabyBug> because all the devs are lazy
02:30 <CodeHunter> smoothice: What is that darn command that makes the zones decay faster? I cannot find it anywhere.
02:30 <SignalOne> hmm well i want to run ctf on one of the servers so i guess I just have to build a cfg for one of the maps?
02:31 <SignalOne> ill try to find the fortress_conqu let you konw how it goes
02:31 <smoothice> CodeHunter: self_destruct_radius?
02:31 <smoothice> #cfg2 self_destruct_radius
02:31 <armabot> smoothice: SELF_DESTRUCT_RADIUS: self_destruct_radius_help
02:31 <CodeHunter> Well, in Sumo. The zones do not shrink as fast as I would like them to.
02:32 <CodeHunter> #cfg2 FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE
02:32 <armabot> CodeHunter: FORTRESS_CONQUEST_DECAY_RATE: Rate a fortress zone "recovers" from being conquered
02:32 <SignalOne> if you were to use a ctf map in the repository which one would you use?
02:32 <epsy> you mean once they are conquered or during whole round?
02:32 <CodeHunter> during the whole round.
02:32 <CodeHunter> I want them to shrink faster
02:32 <epsy> that's in the map
02:32 <CodeHunter> damn.
02:33 <SignalOne> well cant you get a folder on the res and add an edited map to it and use it
02:34 <SignalOne> http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/SSOAN/CTF/ctfsty-0.0.3.aamap.xml if this map was used add the fortress_conq in cfg correct?
02:35 <SignalOne> to 0
02:35 <CodeHunter> SignalOne: What are you talking about?
02:36 <SignalOne> well i want to run ctf, and havnt started on the config yet
02:36 <SignalOne> i was trying to get help making the zones respawn
02:36 <CodeHunter> SignalOne: You have the server up? Built with sty+ct?
02:36 <SignalOne> yes
02:36 <CodeHunter> hold on.
02:37 <noob_saibot> DUKE SUCKS~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:37 <SignalOne> lol
02:37 <CodeHunter> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Earmagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/files/880?file_id=4612%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Aconfig%252Fexamples
02:37 <noob_saibot> go WAKE~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:37 <SignalOne> dude ty so much
02:37 <SignalOne> win
02:38 <CodeHunter> No problem.
02:38 <SignalOne> yes but ty
02:38 <SignalOne> again
02:39 <CodeHunter> epsy: Would you like to host a modifyed map for me? I do not have the time to be bugging luke-jr for a folder.
02:39 <epsy> a modified map?
02:39 <CodeHunter> Yes. The map I am using for the sumo df is this one: http://beta.armagetronad.net/resource-browser/resource/slyshot/sumodf-3.aamap.xml
02:40 <CodeHunter> However, I would like the map to be changed so that the zones can shrink a tad bit faster.
02:41 <epsy> when?
02:41 <CodeHunter> SignalOne: Glad you changed your clan name to ak4 instead of iZm. You were making a lot of the older players a lil mad ;)
02:41 <CodeHunter> epsy: hm?
02:41 <smoothice> CodeHunter are you slyshot?
02:41 <CodeHunter> smoothice: No.
02:41 <smoothice> ok
02:42 <CodeHunter> <Zone effect="fortress">
02:42 <CodeHunter> <ShapeCircle radius="140" growth="-1.1">
02:42 <CodeHunter> Could i make that -2.0 instead of -1.1? Will that make them shrink faster?
02:42 <epsy> yes
02:43 <CodeHunter> epsy: If you are not too busy right now, I would really appreciate it if you could host it on your folder.
02:44 <epsy> well, DCC/mail me the full map with your GID as author
02:44 <CodeHunter> Ok.
02:46 <CodeHunter> epsy: http://rafb.net/p/yqPcnb35.html
02:47 <epsy> grmpf, that's not a GID
02:47 <epsy> a GID is something like epsy@forums
02:47 <CodeHunter> Sorry, I don't have one... Well, I do. It's CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com
02:48 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1004 Using tString class from sty+ct now
02:48 <CodeHunter> If that's any help.
02:48 <epsy> ok
02:50 <CodeHunter> epsy: I set the zones to shrink at -1.8 from -1.1. Hopefully this will be enough.
02:50 <epsy> did you test it?
02:50 <CodeHunter> How? oO I have no ways of hosting it to test it
02:50 <epsy> I mean, locally
02:51 <epsy> put it in your resource/ folder
02:51 <epsy> I can still host but if you can test it in advance it's even better
02:51 <CodeHunter> Please host it :P as I have never done it this way before.
02:52 <CodeHunter> It would take a longer time for me to set up the settings and such with it too.
02:52 <CodeHunter> Rather than just putting in the map url and restarting the server
02:52 <epsy> I mean, just to see if the zone seems to be shrinking fast enough
02:53 <SignalOne> codehunter i cant get the cfg to load wtf
02:53 <CodeHunter> I wouldn't know where to begin. I've never even played in a local game before tbh xD
02:53 <CodeHunter> SignalOne: Huh?
02:53 <BabyBug> "License: Do with it what you want." <--- That's called WTFPL! =P
02:54 <CodeHunter> BabyBug: heh
02:54 <SignalOne> i am trying to loaf cfg ctf , its says use in server_setting_custom
02:54 <SignalOne> and use the yourmom/clever/ctf which is not there
02:54 <CodeHunter> Yes. Do that.
02:54 <SignalOne> i am trying to do that it wont take the data
02:54 <CodeHunter> Well. You will need to put those settings in your settings_custom.cfg folder.
02:54 <teabot> xclanaarepo: Added CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml <http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/revision/epsy46@free.fr-20090129025437-w6peb7vq1zqzdkrh>
02:54 <SignalOne> i guess ill ftp it in the var folder
02:54 <SignalOne> and try to call it up
02:54 <CodeHunter> The server includes that file automatically.
02:55 <BabyBug> Night! \o (you're up late epsy!)
02:55 <epsy> CodeHunter, done
02:55 <SignalOne> what do you mean the server includes it
02:55 <CodeHunter> epsy: Thanks
02:55 <SignalOne> that map you mean
02:55 <epsy> BabyBug sleeping?
02:55 <BabyBug> i'm about to...you should beeee
02:55 <SignalOne> ok so i have url for map and url for cfg whats the order to implement
02:56 <CodeHunter> epsy: ERRR
02:56 <epsy> what did I do wrong?
02:56 <CodeHunter> Nothing. I have never seen what you gave me before... What do I add here?
02:56 <CodeHunter> MAP_FILE slyshot/sumodf-3.aamap.xml
02:57 <CodeHunter> I was expecting you to upload it to the arma resource
02:57 <epsy> MAP_FILE CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml(http://xclan.armagetron.co.uk/resource/CrAsHeD@durkadurkaland.com/SumoDf-3.aamap.xml)
02:57 <CodeHunter> Same principal? Ok, I'll give it a whirl
02:57 <epsy> wow these zones are quite big Oo
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03:04 <CodeHunter> epsy: Works just fine, thx
03:04 <CodeHunter> epsy: I modify the size_factor to shrink the circles
03:06 <epsy> great :)
03:06 <epsy> good night
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03:20 <SignalOne> hello again
03:20 <SignalOne> if i have a cfg for ctf can i uplaod it instead of using it in custom
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03:31 <SignalOne> anyone know the command to launch new cfg file?
03:31 <SignalOne> from in game
03:34 <ct|kyle> INCLUDE
03:36 <SignalOne> ty
03:39 <SignalOne> ok on ctf the flags are incorect
03:39 <SignalOne> you can grab anyone
03:39 <SignalOne> weird
03:40 <s0beit> SignalOne: That is because you are playing with bots.
03:40 <SignalOne> no
03:40 <SignalOne> there are people on the server
03:40 <SignalOne> no bots
03:40 <Lucifer> GodTodd__: ping
03:40 <s0beit> Hmm. I have no clue then.
03:40 <s0beit> Hi luci
03:45 <ct|kyle> SignalOne: what server
03:46 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: I've been waiting for you to say that
03:49 <SignalOne> ioh
03:49 <SignalOne> ak4
03:49 <SignalOne> we are in it
03:49 <SignalOne> sry
03:49 <ct|kyle> #ls SignalOne
03:49 <SignalOne> huh
03:49 <armabot> ct|kyle: timed out
03:49 <SignalOne> o
03:49 <SignalOne> k
03:49 <SignalOne> hey someone go on my server and tell me what you think
03:50 <SignalOne> its screwy but simple , i think its team_flag
03:50 <SignalOne> idunno
03:51 <ct|kyle> if i knew what server it was ...
03:53 <SignalOne> ak4
03:53 <SignalOne> says ak4 single trap server
03:54 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 FLAG
03:54 <armabot> ct|kyle: FLAG_BLINK_END: flag_blink_end_help || FLAG_BLINK_ESTIMATE_POSITION: flag_blink_estimate_position_help || FLAG_BLINK_ON_TIME: flag_blink_on_time_help || FLAG_BLINK_START: flag_blink_start_help || FLAG_BLINK_TIME: flag_blink_time_help || FLAG_BLINK_TRACK_TIME: flag_blink_track_time_help || FLAG_CHAT_BLINK_TIME: flag_chat_blink_time_help || FLAG_COLOR_B: flag_color_b_help || FLAG_COLOR_G: (2 more messages)
03:54 <SignalOne> it flag
03:55 <SignalOne> kyle its just that i can pick up any flag man
03:55 <SignalOne> and the name of what the server?
03:56 <ct|kyle> #ls ct_ky13
03:56 <armabot> ct|kyle: ct¤ky13 seems to be on .[Ak4]. *Single Trap Server (ST)* US right now.
03:58 <ct|kyle> #si -v Single Trap Server
03:58 <armabot> ct|kyle: .[Ak4]. *Single Trap Server (ST)* US (72.9.158.25:4537) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090123 unix dedicated, url: http://ak4clan.net/conscript, Description: “This is single trap. Similar do DF, ST combines passive trapping and allows only one kill option. Trapping your opponent with your cycle only. This is done one trap at a time. Do not use your opponents walls to trap. Passive (1 more message)
03:59 <SignalOne> anythoughts?
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04:05 <SignalOne> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty/files/880?file_id=4612%407d95bf1e-0414-0410-9756-b78462a59f44%3Aarmagetronad%252Fbranches%252F0.2.8%252Farmagetronad%3Aconfig%252Fexamples
04:05 <SignalOne> there is 2 one is ctf and the other is ctf1
04:05 <SignalOne> take a look the flags dont work any team can capture both flags
04:06 <TheBeyonder> :)
04:06 <SignalOne> :-(
04:06 <TheBeyonder> hi
04:06 <ct|kyle> SignalOne: you should use the settings_pig_sty_ctf.cfg
04:06 <TheBeyonder> You guys are talking about setting up sty
04:06 <Lucifer> ct|kyle: waiting for me to say what?
04:06 <ct|kyle> Lucifer: GodTodd__ ping
04:06 <TheBeyonder> I was trying to figure that out earlier
04:06 <Lucifer> I've been saying it privately for several days already
04:07 <SignalOne> no, its set up
04:07 <TheBeyonder> signal who are you
04:07 <ct|kyle> ah
04:07 <SignalOne> thebeyond its just a setting in the cfg i need to change
04:07 <SignalOne> i am signal
04:07 <TheBeyonder> oh
04:07 <TheBeyonder> u talk with joker?
04:07 <SignalOne> nope
04:07 <SignalOne> no one rly
04:07 <SignalOne> i just do it
04:07 <TheBeyonder> oh i is confuzed
04:08 <TheBeyonder> are you talking about the server i was trying to set up fopr dk?
04:08 <SignalOne> well i just want to make ctf work
04:08 <SignalOne> no
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04:08 <TheBeyonder> oh lol!
04:08 <SignalOne> http://ak4clan.net/conscript
04:08 <SignalOne> there is some info
04:08 <TheBeyonder> I was in here this afternoon trying to get tips and was stuck at the bazarr part ... uh hold on let me get it
04:09 <SignalOne> but if you know the command in the cfg for flag control i would appreciateit
04:10 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: hi
04:10 <TheBeyonder> hi :)
04:10 <SignalOne> hi
04:10 <TheBeyonder> bzr commit -m "Merging changes from the mainline"
04:10 <TheBeyonder> gave me a command not found error
04:10 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: wtf are you trying to do?
04:10 <TheBeyonder> install ctfs for starters
04:10 <TheBeyonder> was using bzr
04:10 <luke-jr> and this involves 'bzr commit' how
04:10 <luke-jr> ?
04:10 <TheBeyonder> but got stuck at that part
04:11 <TheBeyonder> $ bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
04:11 <TheBeyonder> $ cd 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty
04:11 <TheBeyonder>
04:11 <TheBeyonder> Optional (and risky, you may get difficult to resolve conflicts): merge in changes from the mainline with
04:11 <TheBeyonder>
04:11 <TheBeyonder> $ bzr merge lp:armagetronad/0.2.8
04:11 <TheBeyonder> $ bzr commit -m "Merging changes from the mainline"
04:11 <TheBeyonder>
04:11 <luke-jr> oh
04:11 <luke-jr> interesting
04:11 <Lucifer> bzr --version says?
04:11 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: maybe try the new 0.3-sty
04:12 <TheBeyonder> one sec let me get into the server
04:12 <TheBeyonder> Never enough screens :P
04:12 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: fwiw, you can easily skip that step
04:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: hey
04:13 <TheBeyonder> oh? how should i proceed?
04:13 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: just skip it and move on
04:13 <ct|kyle> hel luke-jr
04:13 <TheBeyonder> right now im in the armagetron dir from the bzr commands
04:13 <ct|kyle> hey*
04:13 <TheBeyonder> well when i run bootstrp.sh i get errors
04:13 <TheBeyonder> *bootstrap.sh
04:13 <smoothice> still
04:13 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: any idea on SignalOne's CTF issue? XD
04:14 <TheBeyonder> bash: command bootstrap.sh not found
04:14 <Lucifer> heh, that's not running bootstrap.sh
04:14 <Lucifer> that is failing to run it :)
04:14 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: you typed the ./ ?
04:14 <TheBeyonder> yes
04:14 <Lucifer> ls
04:14 <TheBeyonder> that was just the response :)
04:14 <Lucifer> pwd
04:14 <Lucifer> pwd and tell us what you get
04:14 <TheBeyonder> pwd
04:15 <Lucifer> no, in the server
04:15 <Lucifer> same place you tried to run bootstrap.sh
04:15 <TheBeyonder> i know i do that on accident sometimes :)
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04:17 <TheBeyonder> ?
04:17 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: we're all still waiting for the output of 'pwd'
04:17 <TheBeyonder> ~root/Desktop/armagetronad
04:17 <luke-jr> …
04:17 <TheBeyonder> sorry the client took it as raw without ~
04:17 <luke-jr> ok, now 'ls'
04:18 <TheBeyonder> one sec let me ssh instead of vnc
04:18 <luke-jr> sigh
04:19 <TheBeyonder> ccustomdir.m4 html.m4.in resource
04:19 <TheBeyonder> acinclude.m4 language sound
04:19 <TheBeyonder> armagetron.kdevelop MacOS src
04:19 <TheBeyonder> armagetron.kdevelop.pcs major_version src_doku
04:19 <TheBeyonder> armagetron.kdevses Makefile.am tagsvn
04:19 <TheBeyonder> AUTHORS Makefile.manual tank_todo-halffinnished.txt
04:19 <TheBeyonder> batch Makefile.paths textures
04:19 <TheBeyonder> bootstrap.sh minor_version todo-luke-jr.txt
04:19 <TheBeyonder> ChangeLog models todo-philippe.txt
04:19 <TheBeyonder> config NEWS touch
04:19 <TheBeyonder> config_debug pigsty-061021-ljr3.patch tron.ico
04:19 <TheBeyonder> config.guess README update_svn
04:19 <TheBeyonder> configure.ac README-DEVELOPER version
04:19 <TheBeyonder> COPYING.txt README-SDL www-root
04:19 <TheBeyonder> desktop README-Subversion
04:19 <Lucifer> http://rafb.net/paste/ <--- next time use this
04:19 <TheBeyonder> bear with me please as this is my first attempt and am just doing as a favor :D
04:19 <Lucifer> now do:
04:20 <Lucifer> ls -l bootstrap.sh
04:20 <SignalOne> ty kyle, that was the one i thought
04:20 <luke-jr> TheBeyonder: wtf?
04:20 <luke-jr> just doing as a favour?
04:20 * Lucifer is both hungry and wants orange juice
04:20 <SignalOne> what i was doing was changing team_flag 1 in game and everyround the file would revert back to 0
04:20 <TheBeyonder> -rwxrwxr-x 1 echo echo 657 Apr 12 2007 bootstrap.sh
04:20 <luke-jr> usually I don't offer to do favours that I'm not even capable of
04:20 <Lucifer> ok, try ./bootstrap.sh again
04:21 <SignalOne> why cant i see kyle in the name list
04:21 <luke-jr> tell your friend you don't know how and he should ask someone who does
04:21 * BabyBug gets Lucifer some orange juice
04:21 <Lucifer> this time, give us both the command line and the output
04:21 <TheBeyonder> I run the colo and have extra servers so I am putting up for free for now for DK
04:21 <Lucifer> if it's more than 2-3 lines, please use the pastebin :)
04:21 <luke-jr> or get hosting service that includes support
04:21 <SignalOne> ct|kyle ty
04:21 <SignalOne> ty luke
04:21 <SignalOne> woot
04:21 <ct|kyle> SignalOne: no problem
04:21 <SignalOne> yes i did it right , i should changed in file the first time
04:22 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: he was using 1 flag CTF settings on the 2 flag map
04:22 <luke-jr> o
04:22 <luke-jr> weird
04:22 <luke-jr> 1 flag CTF? :/
04:24 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: ya it was one of the last things pig added to the patch
04:31 <SignalOne> yup
04:31 <s0beit> SignalOne: Nice one ;)
04:31 <SignalOne> shshs
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04:31 <SignalOne> no i was using the one map with setting of 0
04:31 <SignalOne> or your right
04:31 <SignalOne> nm
04:45 <luke-jr> night
04:47 <SignalOne> night
04:47 <TheBeyonder> Signal are you trying to set this up for zurdd
04:48 <SignalOne> n0pe
04:48 <TheBeyonder> k
04:48 <SignalOne> what do you mean
04:48 <SignalOne> for someone else
04:48 <TheBeyonder> joker said zurdd was setting one up with flynn's help
04:48 <SignalOne> i charge too much
04:48 <TheBeyonder> so it was just coincidence
04:48 <TheBeyonder> HA lol
04:48 <SignalOne> ;)
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04:55 <|TheBeyonder|> :)
05:03 <ct|kyle> .part
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05:59 <GodTodd__> Lucifer, pong
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06:10 <SignalOne> helllo!
06:10 <SignalOne> yeah baby
06:11 <SignalOne> si lucifer your working on audio in tron?
06:11 <SignalOne> so*
06:18 <SignalOne> im gonna make a script in tron so everyone can listen to the theme from tetris at 400bpm woot
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12:11 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8920 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/eLagCompensation.cpp): Manuel Moos: Applied lag clamping on client, too.
12:15 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1004 Applied lag clamping on client, too....
12:16 <wrtlprnft> #later tell epsy apparently armagetron.at's hoster had a power outage, so you'll have to restart your servers.
12:16 <armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
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13:25 <BabyBug> #later cuddle
13:25 <BabyBug> #help later
13:25 <armabot> BabyBug: Error: There is no command "later".
13:25 <BabyBug> ><
13:33 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8921 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS src/engine/eTimer.cpp src/engine/eTimer.h): Manuel Moos: Added timer drift compensation.
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13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8922 /armagetronad/trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8906 to 8921:
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: r8921 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-29 13:31:39 +0100 (Thu, 29 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: Manuel Moos: Added timer drift compensation.
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: ------------------------------------------------------------------------
13:38 <armabot> armagetronad: r8920 | bazaarmagetron | 2009-01-29 12:11:11 +0100 (Thu, 29 Jan 2009) | 2 lines
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14:16 <armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r856 Merge from trunk... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r817 Merging branch 0.2.8 from revision 8906 to 8921:... || [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1005 Added timer drift compensation....
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14:27 <wrtlprnft> epsy: armabot
14:28 <epsy> wrtlprnft: Sorry, but this command doesn't exist :S
14:28 <epsy> er, hi
14:28 <epsy> ok
14:29 <wrtlprnft> :-)
14:30 <epsy> hm, my screenrc is .. wrong
14:32 <wrtlprnft> heh, you might get nethack messages
14:36 <epsy> how should I get bash to continue running after having executed what's after -c ?
14:36 <epsy> --login ?
14:37 <epsy> or do I just start another bash
14:37 <wrtlprnft> hmm
14:38 <wrtlprnft> bash -c 'echo hi; bash'
14:38 <wrtlprnft> lol
14:38 <epsy> :<
14:38 <wrtlprnft> or just use --init-file or something similar instead of -c
14:39 <epsy> that requires me to create individual files for each screen
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14:43 * Lizmatic gives BabyBug a smooch
14:43 * BabyBug wuddles and kisses Lizmatic
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15:20 <BabyBug> #tea
15:20 <armabot> BabyBug: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): -»|$øØ M, ct|Puuquie, IWANNAPLAY, Monkey.D.Luffy, noob13, pike, ~|DST|~AshitakA, ¦×¦ Black_hat
15:24 <wrtlprnft> ah, so café works again, and i didn't even need to test it
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15:32 <luke-jr> lol
15:33 <nsh22> hello everyone
15:35 * nsh22 is looking for a joband isnt liking what he sees :(
15:35 <nsh22> meh
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15:45 <wrtlprnft> crontab -e
15:45 <wrtlprnft> and create a new job
15:45 <nsh22> ?
15:45 <nsh22> ah cron jobs
15:45 <nsh22> nty
15:46 <nsh22> im looking for employment i should say
16:04 <nsh22> ok, resumes and covers done...whew
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16:06 <nsh22> GRRR....cover letters suck!
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16:18 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
16:18 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 20.7°F (10:17 AM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Blowing Snow. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Windchill: 10.4°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
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16:28 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
16:29 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 19.6°F (10:28 AM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.4°F. Windchill: 14.0°F. Pressure: 28.91 in 978.9 hPa (Falling).
16:29 <Lizmatic> #weather amsterdam
16:29 <Lizmatic> FU!
16:29 <armabot> Lizmatic: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
16:30 <nsh22> #weather brisbane
16:30 <armabot> nsh22: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
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16:52 <nsh22> hey
16:52 <|TheBeyonder|> :)
16:52 <nsh22> did u get the server working?
16:52 <|TheBeyonder|> no i was getting help here then everyone disappeared
16:52 <|TheBeyonder|> so i gave up
16:53 <|TheBeyonder|> and zurdd put a ctfs board on flynn's server?
16:53 <|TheBeyonder|> so I am going to host a website until I get my Xeon box up and do multiple servers on it once they perfect the settings for ctf anctfs
16:54 <|TheBeyonder|> *and ctfs
16:59 <|TheBeyonder|> ....
16:59 <|TheBeyonder|> Luke u here?
17:00 <nsh22> hint: type first three letters of their name and press tab. their full name wioll come up and then put a colon there and type your message
17:00 <nsh22> like this
17:00 <nsh22> t\
17:00 <nsh22> |TheBeyonder| : hi
17:01 <|TheBeyonder|> i messaged him privately
17:01 <|TheBeyonder|> probably asleep lol
17:02 <nsh22> or working 0.o
17:02 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/ctf/pacman2-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
17:04 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/ctf/pacman3-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
17:06 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/ctf/pacman4-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
17:08 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/CodeRed/ctf/pacman5-0.0.11.aamap.xml: Resource by CodeRed
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17:16 <nsh22> fuking ie went emo again
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17:22 <epsy> dont use ie
17:22 <nsh22> lol
17:22 <nsh22> i m starting to use firefox
17:22 <s0beit> #cfg2 map_rotation
17:23 <armabot> s0beit: Sorry, no matches :S
17:23 <nsh22> but it doesnt display my website sometimes
17:24 <s0beit> nsh22: The key to making a good site is making sure its cross scripted ;) I would use IE and Firefox to view websites. As they are the most common ones used
17:25 <s0beit> ct|kyle: Anyone home? oO
17:26 <s0beit> #ls ky13
17:26 <armabot> s0beit: ct¤ky13 has last been seen on .[Ak4]. *Single Trap Server (ST)* US 13 hours 4 minutes ago.
17:26 <s0beit> heh
17:26 <nsh22> well, its a phpbb site so...
17:27 <s0beit> phpbb for nubs
17:27 <nsh22> #ls zurd
17:27 <s0beit> IPB ftw
17:27 <armabot> nsh22: Zurd~Nw has last been seen on Wild West =Team Sumo= 9 hours 52 minutes ago.
17:27 <nsh22> well im a noob at website making so....
17:27 <s0beit> well, for starters, I would use ipbfree.com then.
17:27 <s0beit> phpbb is harder to manage
17:27 <nsh22> i can manage it well enough
17:27 <s0beit> Just in my opinion. Although I have the latest IPB forum for my site.
17:28 <nsh22> its just the programming
17:28 <s0beit> What are you trying to program? oO
17:28 <nsh22> will ipb accept phpbb backups
17:28 <s0beit> No, especially with free hosts.
17:28 <s0beit> What are you trying to script?
17:29 <nsh22> nothing, u said it should be cross compatible
17:29 <s0beit> epsy: Taking a nap?
17:29 <nsh22> and i think it is, its just that firefox tends to drop the connection while its loading
17:29 <s0beit> phpbb usually comes already compatible with all browsers. I just thought you were writting your own site.
17:30 <s0beit> Ah.
17:30 <s0beit> Probably client side then. What's your link?
17:33 <nsh22> www.thefoodsite.x10hosting.com
17:34 <nsh22> it only happens occasionally
17:34 <nsh22> and i use a portable version of firefox
17:37 <nsh22> wow i spent 700 dollars in the last 2 months, damn
17:38 <s0beit> nsh22: Must be nice ;D
17:39 <nsh22> no, not if you dont have much to begin with. much of it comes from xmas money
17:39 <nsh22> and allowance
17:40 <s0beit> #ls pacman
17:40 <armabot> s0beit: pacman has last been seen on -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}Dog Fight< (DF) 17 hours 44 minutes ago.
17:41 <nsh22> #ls neal
17:41 <armabot> nsh22: Neal~NW has last been seen on Wild West =CTF Shooting= 18 hours 21 minutes ago.
17:41 <nsh22> hmmm i thought i wa on my server last. oh well
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18:03 <epsy> s0beit, looking for me?
18:16 <s0beit> epsy: I was :)
18:16 <s0beit> epsy: I figured you was off in la la land
18:16 <s0beit> :P
18:17 <ct|kyle> that is where i was too :P
18:17 <s0beit> I KNOW!
18:17 <s0beit> hai kyle!!!!
18:17 <s0beit> :D
18:18 <s0beit> I have a question about map rotation. I am using the sty+ct 2009 release on my server, is that already scripted in?
18:18 <epsy> most of that stuff is handled external to the binary at CT
18:20 <s0beit> so i will need to include something in my server in order to make some maps rotate?
18:20 <s0beit> that suxzorz
18:20 * epsy does not support sty+ct
18:20 * s0beit slaps epsy with raw fish eggs
18:21 <s0beit> Well
18:21 <s0beit> thats what dorka dorka set up for me
18:21 <s0beit> so i had to go with it
18:21 <s0beit> cuz i had no damn clue how to set up some servers on a vps
18:21 <s0beit> ;)
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18:47 <Flex> Now this is what they call poetry in motion. She's my daily devotion, the verses stay deeper than the oceon. My Soul bleeds on these words, heart screams with emotion. So she kind of owes me a promotion...
18:49 -!- nsh22 [n=nsh22@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
18:49 <nsh22> hey hey
18:49 <ct|kyle> Flex: you really should stop stalking Lizmatic
18:50 <ct|kyle> oi nsh22
18:50 <BabyBug> haha Flex you're so lame, i thought you said you were gonna kill yourself already? hurry up!
18:50 <Flex> lol
18:50 <nsh22> haha
18:50 <Flex> what
18:50 <Flex> oh while you're there.. i removed you from the team :)
18:50 <BabyBug> oh no...i'm in tears...
18:51 * ct|kyle cuddles BabyBug to cheer her up
18:51 * BabyBug kicks ct|kyle down a gutter
18:51 <nsh22> haha
18:51 <ct|kyle> :)
18:52 * nsh22 is eating a concoction of butter, brown sugar, oats and chocolate chips
18:52 <ct|kyle> replace that chocolate ships with raisins and that's what i just had
18:52 <ct|kyle> chips*
18:53 <nsh22> lol
18:54 <ct|kyle> along with a few more ingredients
18:54 <Lizmatic> Flex, remove me from the team too then
18:54 <Lizmatic> Ive decided to just play with x if they still let me
18:55 <ct|kyle> *** Flex Gets Rejected again ***
18:56 <Lizmatic> not really, he just kicked someone from the team who I invited without even asking me.. so nvm about the whole team then
18:57 <Flex> oh so you invited her.. didn't you say i did?
18:57 <Lizmatic> I was the one who asked her
18:57 <Flex> alright have her
18:58 <nsh22> tis snowing
18:58 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
18:58 <Lizmatic> have her? :s
18:58 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 21.7°F (12:58 PM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 12.2°F. Windchill: 15.8°F. Pressure: 28.88 in 977.9 hPa (Falling).
18:58 <nsh22> can i have someone?
18:58 <Flex> i was going to ask.. but kind of told me to gtfo?
18:59 <Lizmatic> its fine
18:59 <Flex> last time getting involed my assss..
18:59 <Lizmatic> just be quiet to babybug, this isnt about her
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19:04 <ct|kyle> oi PinkTomato
19:06 <PinkTomato> hi ct|kyle :)
19:07 * BabyBug prods PinkTomato in da belly button
19:07 * nsh22 has mmore of his concoction
19:07 * PinkTomato waves :)
19:08 * Lizmatic gives BabyBug an evil glare
19:08 <BabyBug> It was a prod! not a cuddle!
19:08 <Lizmatic> >.>
19:08 <Lizmatic> <.<
19:08 <ct|kyle> i guess you can't do that anymore BabyBug
19:08 <BabyBug> :(
19:09 <Flex> that's so stupid.. not even amusing anymore
19:09 <Lizmatic> erm what is?
19:10 <BabyBug> it's not meant to be amusing...... >.<
19:11 <Flex> oh that's hawt you're a lesbo gg thanks bye
19:11 <Flex> now go away BabyBug
19:11 <Flex> i g2g
19:11 <Lizmatic> she's bi
19:11 <ct|kyle> *** Flex is scard **
19:12 <BabyBug> bisexual Flex ...seriously why haven't you killed yourself yet? is it money troubles? I'll happily buy you the rope...I'm sure lisa will chip in for some acid to slowly burn through your skin while you're hanging there
19:12 <nsh22> haha
19:12 <ct|kyle> LOL
19:12 <Flex> killed myself? wtf is wrong with you..
19:13 <BabyBug> i just want me dreams to be a reality...
19:13 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: am i in your dreams (/me hopes not)
19:13 <BabyBug> newp...you're in my nightmares ='(
19:14 <ct|kyle> ah that is better then :)
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19:15 <nsh22> am i?
19:16 * nsh22 is listening to mad dog-yngwie malmsteen
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19:18 <nsh22> shey
19:18 <nsh22> hey*
19:22 <PinkTomato> Wait, how did we get from belly button to lesbian ?
19:22 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: 1 word BabyBug
19:23 <nsh22> lol
19:23 <nsh22> hahaha
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19:33 <Lizmatic> lol, I read " 1 slut, babybug"
19:33 <Lizmatic> :p
19:33 <nsh22> K-Yo : on one of your maps, in sp mode on flag fortress, the enemy flag is in your base, cant remember name of mapp tho...
19:34 <ct|kyle> nsh22: Flag fort
19:34 <ct|kyle> that is what flagfort is :P
19:35 <nsh22> , the enemy flag in our base?
19:35 <nsh22> hmmm
19:35 <nsh22> y ai guess that right....
19:35 <nsh22> my noob
19:35 <ct|kyle> lol
19:36 * nsh22 ate too much and feels sick...
19:36 <K-Yo> nsh22, lol, :P it's on all the maps for this server xD
19:36 <nsh22> lo
19:36 * nsh22 is a noob
19:38 * ct|kyle agrees
19:43 * BabyBug smacks Lizmatic....bitch
19:44 <nsh22> ugggh wtf is my server....
19:45 * nsh22 smacks babybug and liz and tells them to play nice
19:47 * Lizmatic spanks BabyBug
19:48 <ct|kyle> Lizmatic: why do something she likes?
19:48 <nsh22> lol
19:49 <Lizmatic> cause I love her?
19:49 <epsy> oh crap I missed drama-tume
19:49 <epsy> time
19:49 <nsh22> luke-jr : for rotationg configs, do i need to name them map1.cfg, map2.cfg etc or can i name them the name of the maps?
19:50 <epsy> you can choose the names yourself
19:51 <nsh22> yay
19:51 <nsh22> i put camera settings in settings config correct?
19:52 <epsy> errr
19:52 * epsy isn't really following
19:53 <nsh22> the settings_custom.cfg file, i put things like camera_forbid_smart in there?
19:53 <epsy> ah, yes
19:53 <nsh22> ok ty
19:56 * nsh22 needs to redo the maps so the axes work
19:57 <nsh22> my server is now in cockpit mode XD
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20:01 <z-man> #later tell dlh I should be done with your server, you can have it back now :)
20:01 <armabot> z-man: The operation succeeded.
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20:04 <neal_arma> s#ls neal
20:04 <neal_arma> #ls neal
20:05 <neal_arma> ,,,
20:05 <armabot> neal_arma: Neal~NW has last been seen on ~Night Walker's Central~Racing~ 2 minutes ago.
20:06 <neal_arma> #ls zurd
20:06 <armabot> neal_arma: timed out
20:07 <neal_arma> fail
20:07 <neal_arma> #ls fail
20:07 -!- neal_arma is now known as nsh22
20:07 <armabot> neal_arma: Failure has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. 3 hours 4 minutes ago.
20:08 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, could you lower VOTING_MATURITY on café please? we have to wait way too long before suspending anyone... and mods/admins are not always around...
20:15 <K-Yo> #m wrtlprnft could you lower VOTING_MATURITY on café please? we have to wait way too long before suspending anyone... and mods/admins are not always around...
20:16 <armabot> K-Yo: The operation succeeded.
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8923 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. src/network/nNetwork.cpp):
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: author: Manuel Moos
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: Stupid Z-Man didn't know 'char' is allowed to mean 'unsigned char'.
20:22 <armabot> armagetronad: Fixes string encoding/decoding on systems where this is the case.
20:25 <K-Yo> #apropos comi
20:25 <K-Yo> #apropos laun
20:25 <armabot> K-Yo: No appropriate commands were found.
20:25 <K-Yo> #apropos upd
20:25 <armabot> K-Yo: No appropriate commands were found.
20:26 <armabot> K-Yo: No appropriate commands were found.
20:41 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1006 Stupid Z-Man didn't know 'char' is allowed to mean 'unsigned...
20:43 <BabyBug> Who used to run bugfarm? and why isn't it still running >< ='(
20:44 <Lizmatic> Z-Man
20:44 <Lizmatic> Because he's a jerk!
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20:45 <BabyBug> z-man, ping!
20:45 -!- madmax|pt is now known as madmax
20:47 * nsh22 finished redoing his maps :)
20:48 * nsh22 has got his spine, has my orange crush....
20:51 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/Corners-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:54 <epsy> K-Yo: Editor's summary: -
20:55 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/LifesDecisions-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:55 <K-Yo> epsy, I have to say I don't understand you sometimes...
20:55 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board&action=history
20:55 <K-Yo> epsy, yeah, I noticed right after pressing the publish button
20:56 <K-Yo> I just added teams
20:56 <epsy> there's a profile option for that
20:56 <K-Yo> erm
20:56 <K-Yo> servers
20:56 <K-Yo> orly?
20:56 <epsy> servers
20:56 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Special:Preferences#prefsection-4
20:57 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/SpiralofDeath-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:57 <epsy> ah well, you gotta have to click edit yourself
20:57 <nsh22> 0o
20:58 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/SpiralofDeath-0.0.3.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:58 <armabot> armagetronad: * resources/neal/race/WackyRaces-0.0.2.aamap.xml: Resource by neal
20:58 <K-Yo> epsy, ty
21:12 <nsh22> wewwt im done
21:13 <nsh22> ok, how do i get round_center_message to display the map nam?
21:13 <nsh22> name*
21:13 <epsy> just have a config file set it
21:13 <nsh22> ok
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21:19 <epsy> K-Yo, can you fill in your info at http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board#Server_List
21:28 <K-Yo> epsy, sure
21:29 <epsy> one question, what do you expect to see in a fortress scoreboard ?
21:29 <epsy> (I mean in-game)
21:30 <Genki> #ls beanie
21:30 <armabot> Genki: timed out
21:31 * epsy prepares itself to design an empty scoreboard
21:31 <Genki> #ls Beanie~NW
21:32 <armabot> Genki: timed out
21:32 <Genki> T.T
21:32 <Genki> #ls Zurd
21:32 <armabot> Genki: Zurd~Nw has last been seen on Wild West =Team Sumo= 13 hours 58 minutes ago.
21:34 <K-Yo> epsy, done
21:35 <epsy> K-Yo, can you link to a way of talking to you and kyle ? (eg. user talk page)
21:35 <epsy> (that would count as a minor edit)
21:35 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:35 <K-Yo> would a link to IRC do ?
21:35 <K-Yo> I guess not
21:35 <epsy> not really, heh
21:36 <K-Yo> I never read user talk
21:36 <K-Yo> well
21:36 <K-Yo> I get noticed I think
21:36 <epsy> you are, by default
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21:38 * nsh22 forgot to restart the server after adding rotating configs :)
21:39 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, do you have a wiki account?
21:39 <epsy> K-Yo, did you receive a mail? :)
21:39 <K-Yo> epsy, dunno, let me check
21:39 <K-Yo> I saw ur message though
21:39 <K-Yo> I did not recieve a mail :/
21:39 <epsy> then check your settings
21:39 <epsy> and your watchlist
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21:41 <K-Yo> done
21:41 <K-Yo> was de-activated indeed
21:44 <nsh22> ok, or rconfigs.txt, do i put include file.cfg or just the file name?
21:45 <nsh22> for rconfig.txt*
21:46 <K-Yo> #si -v pharm
21:46 <armabot> K-Yo: The Server Pharm: Ladle Fortress Tournament Server (66.71.250.74:4535) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090129 unix dedicated, url: http://theserverpharm.onlinegamingboard.com, Description: “Ladle Tournament ServerSetup for Ladle 18Setup by compguygene.“, Players (0/32):
21:46 <K-Yo> #dns 66.71.250.74
21:46 <armabot> Host not found.
21:46 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:46 <K-Yo> .ping
21:47 <epsy> what are you looking for? contact info?
21:47 <K-Yo> nope
21:47 <K-Yo> where it is
21:47 <epsy> ah
21:48 <epsy> believing <http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/66.71.250.74> it is in Atlanta,
21:49 <epsy> @help alias add
21:49 <teabot> epsy: (alias add <name> <alias>) -- Defines an alias <name> that executes <alias>. The <alias> should be in the standard "command argument [nestedcommand argument]" arguments to the alias; they'll be filled with the first, second, etc. arguments. $1, $2, etc. can be used for required arguments. @1, @2, etc. can be used for optional arguments. $* simply means "all remaining arguments," and cannot be combined with (1 more message)
21:49 <epsy> @alias add traceip "echo http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/$1"
21:49 <K-Yo> atlanta? east or west?
21:49 <teabot> epsy: The operation succeeded.
21:49 <K-Yo> epsy, or we can ask luke-jr xD
21:49 <epsy> @traceip 66.71.250.74
21:49 <teabot> http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/66.71.250.74
21:49 <K-Yo> luke-jr, hi :)
21:50 <nsh22> Error stopping /home/neal/svc/aa
21:50 <nsh22> i guess its an unstoppable server
21:50 <epsy> wtf is an unstoppable server?
21:51 <nsh22> no it was just buggy for a moment
21:51 <epsy> so guys, Empty scoreboards win?
21:52 <nsh22> luke-jr: for rconfigs.txt, do i put include file.cfg or just the file name?
21:52 <K-Yo> <epsy> so guys, Empty scoreboards win? <- what are you talking about?
21:53 <epsy> [22:29] <epsy>: one question, what do you expect to see in a fortress scoreboard ?
21:53 <epsy> [22:29] <epsy>: (I mean in-game)
21:54 <BabyBug> Team members... Team Name...Round Score...Matches Score
21:55 <epsy> round score? now that's interesting :)
21:56 <epsy> what about player positions?
21:56 <BabyBug> Yesh...but illustrate the team positions with indents in the members list..
21:56 <BabyBug> Much like what it says when you /shuffle in the trunk
21:57 <epsy> I imagined it on far sides with indented cycles next to player names
21:57 <epsy> problem is that it repeats player names
21:58 <epsy> (also, the /shuffle / /teams thing exists on 0.2.8 as well)
21:58 <K-Yo> hmmm
21:58 <BabyBug> Oh it does? =x
21:58 <epsy> BabyBug, server-side
21:58 <K-Yo> epsy, we don't really need all the positions
21:58 <BabyBug> ah
21:58 <K-Yo> why not just say who is defense?
21:58 <K-Yo> and who is center
21:59 <epsy> and who tked the whole team?
21:59 <K-Yo> well
21:59 <K-Yo> the game could generate a detailled report
21:59 <epsy> I'm thinking about obsoleting /teams in some way
21:59 <K-Yo> and there, keep everything: positions, tks, etc
21:59 <K-Yo> btw, why not put numbers in /teams?
21:59 <K-Yo> like:
21:59 <epsy> yeah
21:59 <wrtlprnft> nsh22: if it's that much of a problem… done for now, but i don't know if it's a good idea
22:00 <K-Yo> 2 - name\n 1 - name\n3 - name
22:00 <K-Yo> so when u shuffle, you know where to
22:00 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, got my message?
22:01 <wrtlprnft> err, i meant you when i said nsh22, of course
22:01 <epsy> anyway, back to the scoreboard, better have both scores in middle and positions on outer?
22:01 <nsh22> wrtlprnft : ok lol
22:01 <nsh22> i was like, wtf?
22:02 <wrtlprnft> my messages need a little creativity to decipher
22:02 <BabyBug> Does the server keep track of kill counts? Like you could you have team members on the left and right, then in the middle have the scores. Underneath the scores have stats like team suicides, team kills, kills by the team etc..
22:03 <epsy> well, it logs them to ladderlog, but that's it
22:04 <nsh22> wrtlprnft : so when you said nsh22 you meant k-yo right?
22:04 <wrtlprnft> yeah
22:04 <nsh22> ok
22:04 <nsh22> *sigh* my rotating configs arent working....
22:04 <wrtlprnft> z-man: char can mean pretty much anything, and imho it's useless for most purposes it's mistakenly used for
22:05 <K-Yo> wrtlprnft, ok, thx. why wouldn't it be a good Idea?
22:05 <z-man> umm, wait, isn't sizeof(char) == 1?
22:05 <epsy> BabyBug, but yeah, kills and deaths seems appropriate
22:06 <BabyBug> =)
22:06 <K-Yo> maybe a wider range of players whould have to right to suspend?
22:06 <BabyBug> Why don't you just photoshop a scoreboard? see what looks good? :)
22:06 <K-Yo> like a @forums/cafe auth
22:06 <epsy> photoshop is evil! :)
22:06 <BabyBug> well whatever...
22:06 <BabyBug> lol
22:06 <BabyBug> just something to create a mockup :
22:06 <epsy> =>FcT<= !
22:06 <BabyBug> :P
22:06 <epsy> BabyBug, of course I will
22:06 <wrtlprnft> z-man: in c++, yeah
22:07 <wrtlprnft> but iirc in C it's 4
22:07 <epsy> , just considering what to put in
22:07 <wrtlprnft> or whatever int is
22:07 <epsy> BabyBug, I didn't think about round stuff
22:08 <madmax> it's 1 too
22:08 <BabyBug> I'm not sure what i meant when i said round score
22:08 <BabyBug> but cool!
22:08 <nsh22> question: for armathenication, is there a way to sogn in without changeing your name?
22:08 <wrtlprnft> or maybe not, but i think it's not defined all that well
22:08 <wrtlprnft> it's at least one, that's for sure
22:08 <nsh22> sign in*
22:09 <epsy> BabyBug, points/kills/deaths(lol) from the start of the current round?
22:09 <BabyBug> erm...yeh!
22:10 <BabyBug> Also, should have a final counter somewhere, Of how many full matches each team has one.
22:10 <wrtlprnft> z-man: yeah, in c it's at least 1, in c++ it's exactly 1
22:10 <BabyBug> Which can be reset by an admin or whatever, or it gets reset when the server empties
22:10 <epsy> BabyBug, for organized matches only, right?
22:10 <BabyBug> epsy, Well, it'd be nice to have just in general i say :)
22:10 <wrtlprnft> but maybe that's not correct, either
22:10 <epsy> Oh, and a crucial point: One or two columns?
22:11 <wrtlprnft> 1 = sizeof(char) <= sizeof(short) <= sizeof(int) <= sizeof(long)
22:11 <BabyBug> eh?
22:11 <wrtlprnft> that looks reasonable
22:11 <epsy> BabyBug, One column: Team A and B mixed together
22:11 <BabyBug> Oh, no no
22:11 <BabyBug> two columns
22:11 <epsy> BabyBug, Two columns: Team A on the left, team B on the right
22:11 <BabyBug> A on left, B on the right
22:12 <BabyBug> Erm...is the scoreboard going to be a widget thingy?
22:12 <epsy> Now about Team sumo: More than one columnis pretty much impossible, group players by team?
22:13 <epsy> BabyBug, probably a bit like cockpits
22:13 <nsh22> hmm my question got ignored....
22:13 <BabyBug> epsy, Am i correct in thinking they are just XML files then?
22:13 <nsh22> ct|kyle: for armathenication, is there a way to sogn in without changeing your name?
22:13 <BabyBug> or do i need to read more? :P
22:13 <epsy> BabyBug, as always, XML + graphics, yes
22:14 <BabyBug> And erm...yeh, group players by teams sounds good :)
22:14 <epsy> (This way we can screw "oh look at my vpenis" whores)
22:14 <epsy> er, I mean "score" :)
22:15 <epsy> nsh22, use a newer (unstable) client
22:15 <epsy> goddamn I'm tired of recommending unstable versions
22:15 <nsh22> i.e. 0.3?
22:16 <epsy> 0.3 is just as old at 0.2.8.2.1
22:16 <epsy> so no
22:16 <nsh22> i.e. 0.3.1?
22:16 <epsy> yes, but it wasn't released
22:16 <BabyBug> just nick the trunk
22:16 <BabyBug> ^^
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22:16 <nsh22> ok.. last try: 0.2.8.2.1alpha?
22:16 <nsh22> oen of those?
22:17 <epsy> 0.2.8.2.1 alphas??
22:17 <nsh22> i duno
22:17 * nsh22 is dumb
22:17 <epsy> you mean 0.2.8.x alphas right?
22:17 -!- mkzelda [n=mkzelda@cpe-066-057-232-057.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:17 <nsh22> yes
22:17 <epsy> yes
22:17 <nsh22> something alpha XD
22:17 <epsy> 0.2.8.2.1 alphas would be .. before 0.2.8.2.1
22:17 <epsy> anything that's at least from feb 2008 will do
22:18 <nsh22> so the ct-sty+auth doesnt support non namechange logins?
22:18 <epsy> one year authentication and it's still not released
22:18 <epsy> what?
22:19 <epsy> ..are you planning on using sty+ct as a client?
22:19 <nsh22> ...
22:19 <nsh22> no i have it as a server
22:19 <epsy> ok
22:20 <nsh22> so on that server, its impossible to login under auth unless you change your name(to the proper account name)?
22:20 <epsy> oh
22:20 <epsy> it's the client which does that
22:21 <nsh22> so if i get a newer client itll work?
22:21 <nsh22> ok
22:21 <epsy> yes
22:25 <nsh22> is the feb 08 client fairly stable?
22:27 <epsy> yes
22:28 <nsh22> kkk
22:28 <nsh22> ill get it later
22:29 <epsy> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board#Section_1
22:29 <nsh22> where do i find it, the beta site?
22:29 <epsy> what does the little x mean?
22:29 <epsy> yes
22:29 <nsh22> kk
22:32 <nsh22> yay newer client has goodies
22:33 <nsh22> questions: what do mates and subcultures do?
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22:36 <nsh22> yay it works!
22:36 <epsy> nsh22, it's explained in their help texts
22:37 <nsh22> in whos?
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22:38 <epsy> the menu entries
22:38 <nsh22> is it normal for the newer clients to slow the comp?
22:38 <nsh22> its making my music play slower 0o
22:40 <nsh22> i went to about, and it closed....
22:42 -!- SoBeiT [n=sobeit@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
22:43 <luke-jr> nsh22: jsut the filename
22:43 <SoBeiT> \o Thars a pink tomato amongst us!
22:43 <SoBeiT> sup luke :)
22:43 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: O.o
22:43 <SoBeiT> Dont give me that stink eye
22:44 <nsh22> luke-jr : ok thx
22:44 -!- G5 [n=G5@cl-506.dus-01.de.sixxs.net] has joined #armagetron
22:44 <SoBeiT> ahoy G5!
22:44 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: op me!
22:44 <SoBeiT> Have you seen Novocaine?
22:44 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: Spank you?
22:44 <G5> Me? No, sry
22:45 <SoBeiT> #ls Luke-Jr
22:45 <SoBeiT> armabot: Luke-Jr is a scary old man that hasn't played in years.
22:45 <SoBeiT> LOL
22:45 <nsh22> lol
22:45 <armabot> SoBeiT: timed out
22:45 <SoBeiT> of course
22:46 <luke-jr> <.<
22:46 <SoBeiT> rofl
22:46 <SoBeiT> kthx
22:46 <luke-jr> who wants a VPS?
22:46 <SoBeiT> VPS are for chumps
22:46 <SoBeiT> You selling VPS now?
22:47 <SoBeiT> G5: Let Novocaine know I'm lookin for him please.
22:47 <luke-jr> yep
22:47 <SoBeiT> I am seeking the settings to WILDCAT. I plan to make an american version.
22:47 <luke-jr> http://lightfoot-tx.dashjr.org/?page=vps
22:47 <G5> k
22:48 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: Looks nice.
22:49 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: knock knock. Anyone home?
22:50 -!- Novocaine [i=novocain@adsl-84-226-80-40.adslplus.ch] has joined #armagetron
22:50 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: PinkTomato is at home.
22:50 <nsh22> GRRR the newest 2.8 client is slowing my comp
22:50 <luke-jr> ping -c 466.71.241.101
22:50 <luke-jr> ping -c 4 66.71.241.101
22:54 <luke-jr> Flex: …
22:54 <SoBeiT> LOL
22:54 <Flex> ? add it
22:54 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: TaZ said you are working on a server script for him.
22:54 <SoBeiT> Or, that you were
22:54 <nsh22> i cant see those symbols, they go to some weird other thing
22:54 <SoBeiT> the reality show thing
22:55 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: Oh, given up on that now ^^
22:55 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: why? too complex? I told him it was.
22:56 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: I was hoping you were the man for the job. The idea was very interesting.
22:57 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: It's not that it's complex to write, It would be complex to understand, and I think would die out rather quickly.
22:57 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: I see. Yeah, it would get rather boring if that's what you mean. Also, did he tell you about his "streaming music" idea?
22:58 <SoBeiT> z-man told him it was possible: So he says.
22:58 <nsh22> luke-jr : do i have a subscription set up with you through paypal?
22:58 -!- Hype [n=x-javach@hbrn-5f720e7a.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #armagetron
22:58 <SoBeiT> Salut Hype
22:58 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: Streaming music?
22:58 <nsh22> i thought you were quitting tron hype
22:58 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: Yes. Where a server can play music... LOL
22:59 <Hype> hi all
22:59 <SoBeiT> Is that even possible?
22:59 <Hype> i only quit the membership to DS
23:00 <PinkTomato> Well, it would require a modified client, and would require internet radio licensing to do it legally probably.
23:00 <luke-jr> nsh22: maybe? do I need to check?
23:00 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: Sounds like too much work, nvm
23:00 <luke-jr> lol
23:00 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: Radio Licensing is the hard work
23:00 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: not necessarily
23:01 <luke-jr> you could just point the stream to an already licensed radio
23:01 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: Your a guy with lots of contacts. How would a server work that is made to stream live music? Plausible?
23:01 <luke-jr> or perhaps a lawyer could find that it isn't quite "radio" when you're on a server specific setup
23:01 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: I didn't think of that,
23:01 <SoBeiT> lol
23:01 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: as PinkTomato mentioned, it would require modifying the client
23:01 <luke-jr> and also legal concerns
23:02 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: I don't think the FBI or police department plays ArmagetronAd
23:02 <luke-jr> in other words, you would require at least 0.3.3
23:02 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: regardless, as developers we need to remain legal
23:02 <luke-jr> as well as my hosting biz
23:02 <SoBeiT> Although, I heard Obama plays tron
23:03 <luke-jr> and if it's incompatible with my hosting biz, I have no interest in putting time into it ;)
23:03 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: I understand *wink* *wink*
23:03 <luke-jr> anyhow
23:03 <luke-jr> it's more likely 0.3.4
23:03 <luke-jr> since it depends on Luci's new sound engine
23:03 <PinkTomato> It seems though, you would just be implementing a shoutcast player
23:04 <PinkTomato> and forcing a client to listen to a station, that you should be able to change :)
23:04 <luke-jr> honestly, I'd have more interest in players with the music
23:04 <SoBeiT> Well, I think that this is an interesting Idea and maybe the devs should talk about it ^.^
23:04 <PinkTomato> which then leaves the question, why should hte server choose at all
23:04 <luke-jr> so I can play my own audio collection
23:04 <luke-jr> and as you try to pass me, you hear it to some degree
23:04 <SoBeiT> That would be hot.
23:04 <SoBeiT> :D
23:04 <luke-jr> eg, I'm playing my music in my car
23:05 <luke-jr> perhaps more urgently, I'd like to paint my cycle ;p
23:05 <luke-jr> more than a mere colour
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23:05 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: I agree. Trick it out and throw some rimz on that hoe
23:05 <luke-jr> I think wrtlprnft's made some progress on binary resources
23:05 <Flex> custom sounds is a good idea.. gives room for admins and users to have interesting commands to use.. but music is going too far. imo
23:06 <luke-jr> Flex: music inside the cycles ;)
23:06 <luke-jr> like how your car has a CD player
23:06 <SoBeiT> This is interesting.
23:06 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: How hard would it be to impliment this?
23:06 <luke-jr> quite hard
23:06 <Flex> like arma isn't laggy enough
23:06 <SoBeiT> Flex: ROFL
23:06 <luke-jr> and as I said, it depends on Luci's sound engine
23:06 <luke-jr> Flex: true
23:07 <PinkTomato> would that google thingy improve it? or is that more to do with server messages?
23:07 <Flex> motd sounds are cool, who would say no to those..
23:08 <Flex> as long as you don't spend more than five minutes downloading them..
23:08 <Flex> also would put stress on the servers
23:08 <Flex> anyway.. luke-jr got my PM?
23:09 <Lucifer> luckily, we've already studied the issue using real math and code
23:09 <SoBeiT> Question: Has the devs tried to make a setting that you can silence a player forever?
23:09 <Lucifer> and have determined that having the server stream sound to the clients is fine
23:09 <SoBeiT> Lucifer: Ahoy!
23:09 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: SILENCE <<PLAYER>> VOICE <<Player>>
23:09 <SoBeiT> And when I say silence, I mean silence a player from the player police setting
23:10 <PinkTomato> don't use it though, it just makes people angryh
23:10 <SoBeiT> Like, if I don't like luke, whatever server I am in, I don't want to hear what he has to say
23:10 <SoBeiT> lolol
23:10 <Lucifer> hmmm, maybe now with armathentication we can silence a player forever
23:10 <Lucifer> at least, we can silence him wherever he authenticates
23:10 <nsh22> wewt
23:10 * Lucifer wonders if that got added
23:10 <epsy> no
23:10 <nsh22> but then he cpuld make a fake armathentication account...
23:10 <SoBeiT> doubt it
23:10 <PinkTomato> then why would I authenticate?
23:10 <SoBeiT> Yeah
23:10 <SoBeiT> rofl
23:10 <Flex> good point
23:11 <PinkTomato> Oh, unless you do ACCESS_LEVEL_VOICE
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23:11 <epsy> but i'm considering writing an ultimate banhammer mod once we have decent scripting/modding
23:11 <PinkTomato> and you need to authenticate to speak
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23:11 <SoBeiT> banhammer... mod?
23:11 <nsh22> ok, is the latest 2.8x client supposed to lag your entire computer, it slows the music im playing lol
23:12 <SoBeiT> care to elaborate epsy?
23:12 <nsh22> but only when i have it up
23:12 <epsy> SoBeiT, ban by hostmask, by ip, by range, by GID
23:12 -!- Hype [n=x-javach@hbrn-5f720e7a.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Client Quit]
23:12 <PinkTomato> nsh22: There should not be enough substantial changes to make a noticeable different
23:12 <nsh22> and, i lagged out
23:12 <PinkTomato> not by range! :'(
23:12 <PinkTomato> Admins will abuse it
23:12 <SoBeiT> epsy: I agree
23:12 <epsy> SoBeiT, have the ability to use serval types of ban (silence, plain ban, trigger-happy ,etc)
23:12 <luke-jr> epsy: BY NICK
23:13 <epsy> luke-jr, hostmask :)
23:13 <SoBeiT> Trigger-happy?
23:13 <SoBeiT> :o
23:13 <epsy> SoBeiT, that gotta be designed
23:13 <luke-jr> epsy: Armagetron doesn't have IRC hostmasks, dummy
23:13 <luke-jr> epsy: by words spoken!
23:13 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: LOL!
23:13 <luke-jr> eg, cuss and get autokick
23:13 <epsy> luke-jr, that's the idea of trigger-happy
23:13 <SoBeiT> ohh very nice.
23:13 <epsy> and also real permanent bans
23:13 <SoBeiT> Actually, Manta put a script like that on his server.
23:14 <SoBeiT> Or should I say SERVERS
23:14 <SoBeiT> When a member cusses, they get banned for a certain ammount of time.
23:14 <nsh22> ugh, its definately the client slowing my smusic
23:14 <epsy> but that can't work without my halfway-specified new setting structure
23:14 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: it dosen't work
23:14 <SoBeiT> Kind of lame. Because I am a grown man and should be able to cuss when I want ;)
23:14 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: It does.
23:14 <epsy> setting access levels for this would look like non-sense
23:14 <SoBeiT> PinkTomato: He turned it off.
23:15 <PinkTomato> SoBeiT: Oh I see, well anyway it should ban you before you say it
23:15 <epsy> or rather silence you
23:15 <SoBeiT> Well. Globally, I think there should be a global ban filter.
23:15 <PinkTomato> there is no point it showing PinkTomato: Oh bummer! then acting
23:15 <PinkTomato> it should not display the word, and then silence,ban etc
23:15 <SoBeiT> For instance fuck should be turned into *** automatically
23:15 <epsy> (that's why trigger-happy has to be specified)
23:15 <epsy> it could also be kicking the player if he shuffles in the middle too fast, for example
23:16 <epsy> or teamkills the whole team
23:16 * nsh22 knows a way to play music in your cycee that others can hear
23:16 <SoBeiT> epsy: "Trigger-happy" makes me think I'm about to go shooting some ducks rather than banning someone.
23:16 <epsy> and I don't really have any idea of how to put that up in a meaningful manner
23:16 <PinkTomato> epsy: It sounds hard to create configuration options for that
23:18 <nsh22> epsy : you know what we/i was talking about with the logging n and changing names with auth, does v0.3 support that?
23:18 <epsy> 0.3 is two years old and still has the original behavoir(ie. change name to username)
23:19 <nsh22> aw
23:19 <PinkTomato> nsh22: there should be some 0.3.1 alphas around
23:19 <nsh22> PinkTomato : will they lag my comp like the2.8x did?
23:19 <SoBeiT> Why is .3.0 still being worked on? .2.8 is the stable release in my opinion.
23:20 <nsh22> SoBeiT : to release 3.1
23:20 <SoBeiT> .3.0 has sooo many changes. My FPS gets killed by all the graphics.
23:20 <PinkTomato> I doubt all of these claims
23:20 <PinkTomato> It's just subjective
23:21 <nsh22> what, the lag?
23:21 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: .3.0 is not being worked on
23:21 <PinkTomato> you download the new client, go into styball with it, the most laggiest server, and then blame the new client.
23:21 <SoBeiT> luke-jr: oO
23:21 <luke-jr> SoBeiT: and it's exactly the opposite
23:21 <luke-jr> .2.8 is *not* being worked on *because* it is the stable release
23:21 <PinkTomato> nsh22: I think there is something wrong with your configuration
23:21 <luke-jr> .3.x *is* being worked on *because* it is the experimental/development series
23:22 <SoBeiT> I get it now.
23:22 <PinkTomato> nsh22: the only changes since stable are improvements to serving and bug fixing, correct me if I'm wrong.
23:22 <nsh22> PinkTomato : hmmmmm... so your saying the WW servers would nt lag my comp as much as my server (which ahas styball but doesnt use it, yet)
23:22 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: trunk is significantly slower than .2.8
23:22 <luke-jr> objectively
23:23 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Is it? I guess I haven't noticed.
23:23 <nsh22> so thats the cause of my lag?
23:23 <nsh22> cuz honestly my music was 1234, open the client, 1..2..3..4..
23:23 <PinkTomato> luke-jr: Though can you confirm that nsh22 downloaded a 0.2.8.3_alpha, should not have anny noticable differenct to 0.2.8.2?
23:24 <luke-jr> nsh22: I would blame your OS for that.
23:24 <PinkTomato> nsh22: where did you download the client from?
23:24 <luke-jr> PinkTomato: shouldn't, but 0.2.8.3 violated the stability rule so much it wouldn't surprise me
23:24 <nsh22> luke-jr : so windows xp sucks
23:24 <nsh22> i g2g bbl
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23:25 <Flex> why would it suck..
23:26 <PinkTomato> let's not start an OS argument
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23:27 <epsy> what then?
23:28 -!- SoBeiT [n=sobeit@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
23:28 <PinkTomato> OK, how about, reading the wiki: Multi-Mode by players, Multi-Mode by admins, << what does this mean :?
23:29 <epsy> meh
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23:29 <epsy> Multi-Mode by vote, Multi-Mode by admins
23:29 -!- zmanuel [n=manuel@p508707BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #armagetron
23:30 <epsy> does that make more sense?
23:30 -!- SoBeiT5488 [n=Miranda@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #armagetron
23:30 <PinkTomato> Oh, is this /vote include ?
23:30 <epsy> yes
23:30 <PinkTomato> I didn't reliase we had that :) OK thanks :)
23:30 <epsy> well, I'll change it
23:31 <epsy> "Fortress votable, Fortress can be set by admins"
23:31 <SoBeiT5488> epsy : How do you register your name on IRC? oO
23:31 <epsy> SoBeiT5488, /msg nickserv help
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23:33 <SoBeiT5488> epsy: How do you change your nick?
23:33 <epsy> /nick
23:33 <SoBeiT5488> wtf is that 5488 on the end? xD
23:33 <epsy> PinkTomato, does that make sense?
23:33 -!- SoBeiT5488 is now known as SoBeiT
23:34 <epsy> SoBeiT5488, probably your client appending it because sobeit is already used
23:34 <epsy> or was
23:34 <SoBeiT> oh :/
23:34 <SoBeiT> ghey
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23:34 <epsy> [00:28] * SoBeiT [n=sobeit@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] a quitté ("Java user signed off")
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23:34 <PinkTomato> epsy: makes sense to me :)
23:35 <SoBeiT> Hi ivantis
23:35 -!- SoBeiT is now known as s0beit
23:35 <ivantis2> epsy: what does préfères mean?
23:36 <epsy> prefer
23:36 <ivantis2> like 'prefer' or 'would you rather?'
23:36 <epsy> both
23:36 <ivantis2> im playing a game in french
23:36 <epsy> what game?
23:36 <ivantis2> animal crossing
23:37 * epsy expects hearing about a flash game
23:37 <ivantis2> a lot of dialog
23:37 <s0beit> Je ne parle pas français couramment
23:38 <ivantis2> "Tu es sûr que tu ne préfères pas regretter ton achat plutôt que regretter de ne pas avoir acheté?"
23:38 <ivantis2> wouldnt you rather have it than not regret it?
23:38 <ivantis2> something like that
23:38 <epsy> Are you sure to not regret your bought instead of not having bought it
23:38 <epsy> ?
23:39 <ivantis2> i think so
23:39 <s0beit> Are you sure that you do not prefer to regret your purchase rather than to regret not having bought?
23:39 <s0beit> LOL
23:39 <ivantis2> im talking to a shopkeeper about an item
23:39 <s0beit> tell that shopkeeper to STFU
23:39 <s0beit> :D
23:41 <ivantis2> "Hein? Des clients? Formidable. HUM! Bienevenue à la Happy Room Academy!" means like "Huh? Customers? Good. ahem. welcome to the happy room academy!"?
23:42 <epsy> yup
23:42 <s0beit> epsy: What all do you speak?
23:43 <epsy> sorry?
23:43 <s0beit> Capite questo?
23:43 * epsy doesn't understand spanish
23:43 <s0beit> Você compreende este?
23:43 <s0beit> Italian*
23:43 <s0beit> and portuguese
23:44 <epsy> neither I understand italian, obviously
23:44 <s0beit> xD
23:44 <epsy> neither portuguese :)
23:44 <ivantis2> "Écoute. On va discuter. Toi moi? On va... Eh! C'est toi, c'est Ivan!" means like "Lets discuss. Wait, its you Ivan!"?
23:44 <s0beit> Only French?
23:44 <epsy> french, english, and a bit of german
23:44 <ivantis2> i live in the US, but im like a quarter italian
23:44 <s0beit> Listen. One will discuss. You me? One goes… Hey! It is you, it is Ivan!
23:44 <epsy> ivantis2, yes
23:45 <K-Yo> "one goes" <- I doubt it
23:45 <s0beit> K-Yo: Yeah :P
23:45 <epsy> rather "We will.."
23:46 <ivantis2> Lettres is letters, modèle is model, évaluation is evaluation. all correct?
23:46 <s0beit> yup
23:46 <epsy> will you stop asking for stuff as easy as this?
23:46 <K-Yo> modèle can be pattern, depending on context
23:46 <s0beit> haha
23:47 <K-Yo> ivantis2, http://wordreference.com/
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23:47 <epsy> sensagent.com
23:47 <epsy> is what I usually use
23:47 <ivantis2> Mon is my, he is saying "Mon évaluation". whats pièce mean?
23:48 <s0beit> epsy: Is it true that you can paste text into tron?
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23:48 <PinkTomato> I guess its not piece
23:48 <K-Yo> pièce means either room or coin
23:48 <epsy> s0beit, yes, on trunk
23:48 <epsy> or piece
23:48 <epsy> er,
23:48 <K-Yo> piece? yes but less often
23:48 <s0beit> epsy: How do you paste? Cntrl-V?
23:48 <epsy> maybe not
23:48 <epsy> yes
23:48 <ivantis2> what does coins mean? people say that a lot
23:48 <s0beit> I will try ;)
23:48 <K-Yo> coin?
23:48 <K-Yo> in french?
23:48 <K-Yo> corner
23:49 <epsy> insert coin please
23:49 <ivantis2> corner?
23:49 <K-Yo> FR:coin = EN:corner
23:49 <K-Yo> EN:coin = FR: pièce
23:49 <s0beit> epsy: Which one is trunk?
23:49 <ivantis2> animals will say like "Coins, coins" in a sentence
23:49 <PinkTomato> I found this really neat website that serves as an interface to google.com translate, only I forgot where it is.
23:49 <K-Yo> oh
23:49 <K-Yo> it's the sound that ducks do
23:50 <ivantis2> oh
23:50 <epsy> s0beit, 0.3.x
23:50 <epsy> s0beit, wrtlprnft's builds will do
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23:51 <s0beit> epsy: Thanks
23:51 <K-Yo> anyone up for some fort?
23:51 <K-Yo> or tst-like sumo
23:51 <s0beit> K-Yo: Be there in a minute ;)
23:51 <K-Yo> :)
23:51 <ivantis2> "Les sièges de bus sont fabriqués en granite maintenant ou quoi?" "Are bus seats made of stone?"
23:51 <K-Yo> i'll wait
23:52 <epsy> what's TST-like sumo ? Oo
23:52 <K-Yo> sumo with tst settings
23:52 <epsy> ivantis2, yes
23:52 <epsy> K-Yo, what's so special with them?
23:52 <K-Yo> epsy, you made them, you should know xD
23:52 <epsy> they are normal team sumo settings to me
23:52 <K-Yo> well
23:53 <K-Yo> compare CTOS or xtss to a TST server
23:53 <K-Yo> and tell me if you see the same thing
23:53 <K-Yo> I don't ><
23:53 <epsy> TST settings are the same than xtss's, except for max teams and map
23:53 <ivantis2> Clochettes are bells?
23:53 <epsy> now CTOS has no score_hole and way longer matches
23:54 <epsy> yes, smaller bells
23:54 <ivantis2> chrono is clock?
23:54 <epsy> prefix for time-related stuff
23:54 <K-Yo> epsy, and not same ammount of players max
23:55 <K-Yo> neither the same tails length nor the same number of zones
23:55 <ivantis2> what does chronometer mean? its an android thingy
23:55 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: http://www.verbatimsolutions.com/freetranslation.php
23:55 <epsy> can be abused into meaning "precisely timed"
23:55 <s0beit> epsy: With this version... WOW... all the server names are f*cked up
23:55 <s0beit> they are all underscores and ports
23:55 <epsy> ivantis2, meter, to do measures, and chrono meaning time
23:55 <epsy> s0beit, see forums
23:55 <K-Yo> s0beit, this version you dled is fucked up
23:55 <PinkTomato> ivantis2: I know online translation is horribly horrendous, the point is that website is rather neat for having real time translation :)
23:55 <K-Yo> .tea
23:55 <s0beit> hehe K-Yo
23:56 <K-Yo> #tea
23:56 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ¦<
23:56 <K-Yo> @tea
23:56 <teabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): ¦<
23:56 <epsy> K-Yo, == max teams
23:56 <K-Yo> yup
23:56 <epsy> tails length is different? huh?
23:56 <K-Yo> I feel like that
23:56 <K-Yo> or the size factor
23:56 <epsy> ah, the bigger zone
23:56 <K-Yo> or the zone bigger
23:56 <K-Yo> ye
23:56 <ivantis2> Dépit is give up?
23:57 <K-Yo> nope
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23:57 <epsy> durka bashed me up on it being too small
23:57 <K-Yo> in "en dépit de" ?
23:57 <epsy> ivantis2, despite
23:57 <epsy> ivantis2, try replacing é and è's with 'es'
23:57 <nsh22> back
23:57 <ivantis2> its a mood expression
23:58 <s0beit> Novocaine: Do you have a minute?
23:58 <ivantis2> wait, é doesnt show up as e with acute?
23:58 <K-Yo> ivantis2, it does
23:58 <PinkTomato> isn't chronometer in the english dictionary?
23:58 <K-Yo> he meant when ur looking for a translation
23:59 <nsh22> what are you trying to translate?
23:59 <luke-jr> hey wow
23:59 <PinkTomato> nsh22: Loads and loads of words
23:59 <K-Yo> french
23:59 <luke-jr> major bug in 0.2.8-sty
23:59 -!- ivantis2 [n=fIRCuser@m600e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:59 <luke-jr> sumo_complete.cfg w/ fixed MAP_FILE does NOT work
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00:00 -!- ivantis2 [n=fIRCuser@m200e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #armagetron
00:00 <ivantis2> damn this irc client
00:00 <nsh22> ya i need a new client as well
00:01 <nsh22> luke-jr: what irc client do you use
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00:01 <luke-jr> nsh22: Konversation
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00:01 <nsh22> Pink, its a very shitty client
00:01 <nsh22> kk ill see if i can get that
00:01 <luke-jr> not for Windows, you can't
00:01 <Flex> fu luke-jr.. why don't you just believe me next time
00:01 <nsh22> fik
00:02 <nsh22> any good ones for windows
00:02 <luke-jr> Flex: sorry, I found it very hard to believe ☹
00:02 <PinkTomato> nsh22: HydraIRC? Screenshot looks fine
00:02 <luke-jr> nsh22: no
00:02 <epsy> nsh22, I use xchat, but I don't know how that looks on osx
00:02 <Flex> i hate you
00:02 <luke-jr> nsh22: next version will support Windows
00:02 <luke-jr> Flex: sorry ☹
00:02 <Flex> no
00:02 <luke-jr> Flex: next time I will know better
00:02 <Flex> wasted my time quite a bit
00:02 <nsh22> luke-jr: and that will be...
00:02 <K-Yo> nsh22, silverex.org
00:02 <epsy> nsh22, hydra is an osx client
00:02 <epsy> K-Yo, *
00:03 <luke-jr> nsh22: dunno when the release is planned
00:03 <epsy> K-Yo, so no need to point him to silverex to get a windows xchat
00:03 <PinkTomato> nsh22: that's what nsh22 is using at the moment :)
00:03 <epsy> lol
00:03 <nsh22> ???
00:03 <K-Yo> hydra?
00:03 * nsh22 is confused
00:03 * K-Yo too
00:03 <PinkTomato> nsh22: is using HydraIRC
00:03 <nsh22> im using hydraIRC, but i usually use vortecIRC
00:04 <PinkTomato> What's wrong with HydraIRC?
00:04 <luke-jr> ]join #armagetron-0.3-sty
00:04 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: Cannot join #armagetron-0.3-sty, it's banned me.
00:04 <nsh22> lawl
00:04 <nsh22> why do you guys need to know what i use....
00:04 <luke-jr> retard
00:04 <luke-jr> (smoothice, not you guys)
00:05 <nsh22> lol he banned you?
00:05 <K-Yo> nsh22, well, I though u used windows
00:05 <nsh22> i do...
00:05 <K-Yo> oh
00:05 <K-Yo> epsy, seems hydra is a windows client too...
00:06 <K-Yo> or I really don't understand anything
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00:06 <neal_arma> i do use windows
00:06 <K-Yo> nsh22, for windows, you can use xchat @ silverex.org
00:06 <neal_arma> is it an online one?
00:06 <K-Yo> neal_arma, no
00:06 <neal_arma> ok
00:06 <K-Yo> neal_arma, xchat 2 for windows
00:07 <Flex> mIRC for Windows..
00:07 <neal_arma> i jdgi
00:07 <neal_arma> i will jfgi
00:07 <K-Yo> well
00:07 <K-Yo> time to sleep
00:07 <K-Yo> later dudes
00:07 <neal_arma> nite
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00:10 <epsy> version, not clientinfo
00:10 <epsy> anyway, it's xchat
00:10 <nsh22> o0
00:10 <nsh22> it came up a bunch of symbols
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00:11 <epsy> wtf are all your special ctcps? O_o
00:12 <nsh22> ??
00:12 <epsy> anyway, nighty
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00:12 <nsh22> ill brb, changing client
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00:14 <nsh22> ok i got it working...
00:25 * nsh22 hates python
00:29 <madmax> :-O
00:29 <madmax> don't tell me you love perl
00:29 * nsh22 dislikes programming altogether unless he understands it
00:30 <nsh22> im only hating python nocuz i need to use it for supybot
00:30 <nsh22> after im done i wont give a rats ass about python
00:33 <nsh22> is python a good intro to programming?
00:35 <nsh22> how do i run supybot-wizard?
00:47 * nsh22 loves python now
00:48 <nsh22> whats a good supybot plugin i should add
00:51 <ct|kyle> nsh22: did you figure it out? 0.2.8.1 does that the beta's do not
00:51 <nsh22> ct|kyle: what the auth stuff?
00:52 <ct|kyle> nsh22: ya
00:52 <Flex> ct|kyle why would i be stalking Lizmatic?
00:52 <nsh22> because you want to be killed by babybug
00:53 <ct|kyle> Flex: because we all know you like her
00:54 <Flex> and that makes me a stalker?
00:55 <Flex> actually it's so ironic how someone so fucked up can tell me to kill myself..
00:55 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ^^
00:57 <ct|kyle> why do you say she is fucked up
00:57 <Flex> irony
00:57 <nsh22> do i really need to type in the ENTIRE fucking ggoogle key to get supybot with google?
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00:57 <ct|kyle> ya
00:57 <nsh22> its loke 10 billion characters long
00:57 <nsh22> ffs
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01:01 <nsh22> FFS it isnt working (probably misspelled it)
01:02 <ct|kyle> copy and paste
01:02 <nsh22> cant
01:02 <nsh22> wont work
01:02 <nsh22> i tried
01:02 <nsh22> it through the cmd prompt
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01:06 <nsh22> whats the supybot lugin called for weather
01:06 <nsh22> plugin*
01:07 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
01:07 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 25.5°F (7:07 PM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 21.2°F. Windchill: 15.8°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Rising).
01:07 <ct|kyle> #plugin weather
01:07 <armabot> ct|kyle: The "weather" command is available in the Weather plugin.
01:08 <ct|kyle> nsh22: ^^
01:08 <nsh22> well its not listed in there....
01:09 <ct|kyle> probably external plugin
01:09 <nsh22> hrmm
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01:10 <nsh22> hrmm
01:11 <ct|kyle> #google supybot Weather plugin
01:11 <armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.32 seconds: Documentation for the Weather plugin for Supybot: <http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/plugins/Weather.html>; Supybot Plugin Documentation: <http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/plugins.html>; FreshPorts -- irc/py- supybot - plugins: <http://www.freshports.org/irc/py-supybot-plugins/>; Bug#298903: marked as done ( supybot : weather plugin returns error): (2 more messages)
01:11 <nsh22> lol ill get it later
01:11 <nsh22> ty tho
01:14 <nsh22> ok, bots setup, now how in the hell do i make it run...
01:17 <nsh22> and i dont know where it loaded itself...
01:18 <luke-jr> wtf is this nonsense abuot "unsupported CVS build"?
01:18 <luke-jr> when I try to connect to 0.3-sty?
01:19 <luke-jr> #armaconfig version
01:19 <armabot> luke-jr: GL_VERSION: OpenGL system information (default: 1.3 Mesa 6.5)
01:19 <luke-jr> #armaconfig old
01:19 <armabot> luke-jr: CYCLE_AVOID_OLDCLIENT_BAD_SYNC: If set to 1, old clients will not get sync messages in situations that are known to confuse them (default: 0) || CYCLE_SMOOTH_THRESHOLD: Only syncs that differ from your position by less than this amount (measured in speed) will be handled smoothly, bigger differences will be applied instantly. (default: 0.2) || FONT_BIG_THRESHOLD_HEIGHT: UNDOCUMENTED (1 more message)
01:19 <luke-jr> #more
01:19 <armabot> luke-jr: (default: 24) || FONT_BIG_THRESHOLD_WIDTH: UNDOCUMENTED (default: 12) || LAG_THRESHOLD: lag_threshold_help (default: 0)
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01:37 <nsh22> anybody know how to get a supybot working (i have completed the wizard)
01:37 <nsh22> its for my other channel
01:47 <BabyBug> ct|kyle?
01:48 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: :P
01:48 <BabyBug> <ct|kyle> BabyBug: ^^
01:48 <BabyBug> >
01:49 <BabyBug> ?
01:49 <nsh22> anybody?
01:49 <ct|kyle> Flex: actually it's so ironic how someone so fucked up can tell me to kill myself..
01:49 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: that is what the ^^ was for
01:49 <nsh22> can anybody here help me with my supy bot?
01:49 <BabyBug> hrmph, well...I'd love to know what makes me fucked up
01:50 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-118-164-240.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
01:51 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: flex never did say
01:51 <nsh22> SMOOTH!
01:51 <smoothice> nsh22
01:51 <nsh22> i got my supy bot done.... but dont know how to launch it onto my channel
01:52 <smoothice> run it
01:52 <smoothice> supybot XXX.conf
01:52 <nsh22> how?
01:52 <nsh22> with python?\
01:52 <smoothice> no
01:52 <smoothice> just run the supybot executable
01:52 <smoothice> supybot XXX.conf
01:52 <nsh22> there is none...
01:52 <nsh22> 0.0
01:52 <BabyBug> nsh22, ls
01:52 <smoothice> python supybot.py XXX.conf then
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01:54 <BabyBug> Stewah!
01:54 <nsh22> hrm its not working
01:55 <Stewah> BabyBug!?
01:56 <BabyBug> Hey!
01:56 <Stewah> hey
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02:19 <nsh22> can anybody here help me with my supy bot?
02:19 <smoothice> you on windows?
02:22 <nsh22> yes
02:23 <smoothice> nsh22: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=supybot+windows+instructions&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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02:42 <nsh22> any1 wanna take a gander at some python code...?
02:44 <BabyBug> python code of....
02:44 <BabyBug> and why?
02:44 <BabyBug> and what do you want doing?
02:44 <nsh22> its for supy bot.
02:44 <nsh22> apparently i need python 2.5
02:44 <nsh22> here it is
02:44 <nsh22> http://rafb.net/p/ZD1yvA13.html
02:45 <ct|kyle> then get python 2.5
02:46 <nsh22> i am but i dont know which one to install
02:46 * BabyBug agrees! Although i see know reason why 2.5 code wouldn't work with 2.6
02:46 <ct|kyle> get python 2.61
02:46 <nsh22> i have it
02:46 <ct|kyle> oh
02:46 <ct|kyle> lol
02:47 <nsh22> the guy on #supybot wants me to get 2.5 so...
02:47 <nsh22> i dont know whether to get the x86 or the win 64
02:47 <BabyBug> nsh22, are you running a 32bit or 64bit os?
02:48 <BabyBug> If you have no idea...install this one: http://python.org/ftp/python/2.5.4/python-2.5.4.msi
02:48 <ct|kyle> or just slightly modify the code to remove depreciated conflicts and fix them
02:49 <nsh22> ct|kyle, way to dumb
02:49 <nsh22> BabyBug, ok
02:49 <BabyBug> should still work though ct|kyle, even they are are depreciated, as they haven't yet been removed :)
02:57 <nsh22> heh, it worked
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02:58 <Stewah> BabyBug!
02:58 <BabyBug> Hello
02:58 <Stewah> Hey
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03:00 * animuson reporting to IRC
03:00 <nsh22> damned bot
03:00 <nsh22> it took my op
03:00 <animuson> lol
03:02 <smoothice> hi
03:02 <animuson> :P
03:03 <animuson> now how to installatron?
03:03 <nsh22> lol
03:03 <animuson> ^ bad pun
03:03 <nsh22> it wasnt that bad.... ive made worse
03:03 <smoothice> patch -p0 < code_hack.patch
03:03 <animuson> http://pastebin.com/m7f331452
03:06 <ct|kyle> racetimmer patch does not patch smoothly into sty+ct (at least i don't think it does)
03:06 <nsh22> aw
03:06 <nsh22> i wanted to do that....
03:06 <animuson> hoop has done it
03:06 <nsh22> they did it on DD racing
03:07 <ct|kyle> i mean you can hand add it
03:07 <ct|kyle> yes but lots of changes since the patch was generated
03:07 <animuson> hand add it?
03:07 <ct|kyle> read the patch and manually modify the files :P
03:08 <nsh22> ew
03:09 <BabyBug> lol...
03:09 <nsh22> my bot wont go a way now...
03:11 <animuson> i dont get what the diff -r, +++, and --- lines are doing
03:11 <animuson> diff -ur*
03:14 <animuson> ne1?
03:14 * nsh22 is dumb at programming
03:16 <ct|kyle> someone said i should get certification for microsoft programinng
03:16 <ct|kyle> I told them hell no
03:16 <animuson> lol
03:16 <animuson> so can u tell me what the diff -ur --- +++ does?
03:17 <ct|kyle> - remove line
03:17 <ct|kyle> + addlline
03:17 <BabyBug> someone should make an updated patch!
03:17 * ct|kyle agrees, go ahead BabyBug
03:17 <animuson> i got the + and -
03:17 <BabyBug> fine! What's the bzr for sty+ct? :P
03:18 <animuson> go babybug :P
03:18 <animuson> lol
03:18 <BabyBug> and what patch are we talking about? ^^
03:18 <animuson> but i dont feel like waiting so ima do it the hard way neways
03:18 <animuson> http://hoop.altervista.org/patches/race_timer_20080814_1749.patch
03:18 <nsh22> BabyBug, want me to fined the launchpad url?
03:18 <BabyBug> got it thanks nsh22
03:19 <nsh22> ok
03:19 <animuson> :o its already 8:18?
03:19 <animuson> :|
03:19 <ct|kyle> the +++ and --- are file changes are in
03:19 <BabyBug> Oh wow...it's 2:20 :o
03:20 <ct|kyle> that reminds me i need to merge sty+ct with 0.2.8
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03:22 -!- nsh22 is now known as recover
03:24 -!- recover is now known as nsh22
03:25 <BabyBug> done..that wasted a whole 2 minutes \o/
03:26 <nsh22> that was quick...
03:26 <ct|kyle> LOL i thught it would be about 1
03:27 <BabyBug> pssht lol
03:28 <nsh22> here comes my bot....
03:28 <ct|kyle> o0
03:28 <nsh22> dare it is...
03:29 <nsh22> not here of course
03:29 <nsh22> #google weather supybot plugin
03:29 <armabot> nsh22: Search took 0.17 seconds: Documentation for the Weather plugin for Supybot: <http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/plugins/Weather.html>; Supybot Plugin Documentation: <http://supybot.sourceforge.net/docs/plugins.html>; FreshPorts -- irc/py- supybot - plugins: <http://www.freshports.org/irc/py-supybot-plugins/>; supybot: (3 more messages)
03:29 * BabyBug hates bots
03:30 <nsh22> shit, my parents are home soon....
03:30 <BabyBug> Talk to REAL people...
03:30 <nsh22> im anti social so i cant
03:30 <nsh22> lol jk
03:30 <ct|kyle> lol
03:30 <ct|kyle> besides tronner was nice to you a minute ago BabyBug
03:30 <ct|kyle> well 12
03:31 <nsh22> #weather brisbane, australia
03:31 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Brisbane, Queensland is 80.6°F (12:00 PM EST on January 30, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 68.0°F. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
03:31 <nsh22> i wanna go there.... now
03:31 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
03:31 <armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 21.0°F (9:31 PM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 15.8°F. Windchill: 21.2°F. Pressure: 28.85 in 976.9 hPa (Falling).
03:31 <nsh22> bbl
03:31 * nsh22 is away: doing something else, and will quite possibly never get your message :) thank you
03:36 <ct|kyle> #g -21F in C
03:36 <armabot> ct|kyle: (-21) degrees Fahrenheit = -29.4444444 degrees Celsius
03:36 <ct|kyle> #g 21F in C
03:36 <armabot> ct|kyle: 21 degrees Fahrenheit = -6.11111111 degrees Celsius
03:37 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
03:37 <armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 24.8°F (9:36 PM EST on January 29, 2009). Conditions: Blowing Snow. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 19.4°F. Windchill: 17.6°F. Pressure: 29.97 in 1014.8 hPa (Falling).
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03:42 <ct|kyle> The_Master: who are you?
03:42 <The_Master> ct|kyle: I am called The_Master.
03:44 * nsh22 is back (gone 00:12:21)
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04:05 <luke-jr> …
04:06 <smoothice> ?
04:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: it is awful lame to ban ljrbot from 0.3-sty
04:06 <luke-jr> smoothice: also, my 0.2.8 client thinks it's obsolete when it tries to join 0.3-sty ☹
04:07 <luke-jr> also, I found a serious bug in 0.2.8-sty; want to test on 0.3-sty?
04:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: whooaaa there
04:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: slowwww down
04:08 <smoothice> 1
04:08 <luke-jr> …
04:08 <smoothice> sorry about the ban
04:08 <smoothice> 2
04:08 <smoothice> 0.2.8.2.1 works with 0.3-sty but not unsupported CVS builds
04:08 <smoothice> 3
04:08 <smoothice> test what?
04:09 <luke-jr> 2. CVS has been unused for a LOONG time, and my build is a recent Svn checkout=
04:09 <luke-jr> 3. test the bug
04:09 <nsh22> whats the channel again?
04:09 <luke-jr> nsh22: #armagetron-0.3-sty
04:09 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you missed out point number 2
04:10 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what is the bug you found
04:10 <BabyBug> point number 1 i mean
04:10 <BabyBug> =\
04:10 <smoothice> luke-jr: how do I unban ljrbot
04:10 <luke-jr> BabyBug: no, I did not
04:10 <BabyBug> Did so!
04:10 <BabyBug> Or you never put a 1 in front of it!
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04:10 <luke-jr> smoothice: 1. /mode #armagetron-0.3-sty -b *!*@2002:46bb:1a76:0:2b0:d0ff:fe49:6b31
04:10 <nsh22> luke-jr, : nowe try and get on
04:10 <s0beit> psssst
04:10 <luke-jr> BabyBug: no, I intentionally delayed it
04:10 <luke-jr> ]join #armagetron-0.3-sty
04:11 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you fail at lying!
04:11 <luke-jr> BabyBug: u
04:11 <BabyBug> and you fail even worse at covering up!
04:11 <s0beit> BabyBug: Leave jr luke alone
04:11 <BabyBug> hell no
04:11 <s0beit> =o ok then
04:11 -!- YandereBot [n=Pharo@ip70-187-26-118.om.om.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
04:11 <luke-jr> BabyBug: pay attention
04:11 <s0beit> We are both going to bag your head and dump you in a lake
04:11 <luke-jr> BabyBug: they weren't points, they were threads
04:11 <luke-jr> #kick BabyBug
04:11 <armabot> luke-jr: Error: I need to be opped to kick someone.
04:11 <BabyBug> fail
04:12 <s0beit> xD
04:12 <luke-jr> o
04:12 <BabyBug> lmao
04:12 <s0beit> haha
04:12 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
04:12 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:12 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what is the bug you found?
04:12 <nsh22> !yandere
04:12 <armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+ct] r657 meging with mainline r1006
04:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: sumo doesn't work in 0.2.8-sty
04:12 <s0beit> luke-jr: How so?
04:12 <luke-jr> rather, Flex found it
04:12 * nsh22 loves Yandere
04:12 <luke-jr> s0beit: it just doesn't
04:12 <s0beit> luke-jr: Works fine on the server I run...
04:12 <ct|kyle> works in sty+ct though LOL
04:13 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: perhaps, this was just -sty
04:13 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:13 <luke-jr> s0beit: !yandere
04:13 <ct|kyle> unless it has something to do with a merge
04:13 <nsh22> join or die
04:13 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
04:13 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
04:13 <BabyBug> i'll pick die
04:13 <s0beit> godamn
04:13 <s0beit> !yandere
04:13 <luke-jr> smoothice: u too
04:13 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: was it a recent version
04:13 <smoothice> !yandere
04:13 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I think so
04:14 * ct|kyle goes and compiles CT's open sumo with new code
04:14 <ct|kyle> err
04:14 <ct|kyle> server is down LOL
04:14 <YandereBot> gedit is a quiet, insignificant program. But he's especially quiet today, because he has been terminated by an error. He seems to have been the victim of a worm!
04:14 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: sty+ct may be unaffected
04:14 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:14 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:14 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, nsh22, s0beit, and smoothice.
04:14 * nsh22 wants a yandere for his channel but it odesnt have anybody in it so it would be useless (i like arguing with myself)
04:14 <luke-jr> aw crap
04:14 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i just merged it with the main source
04:14 <s0beit> GODAMN i a worm?!
04:14 <luke-jr> !vote s0beit
04:14 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for s0beit. s0beit: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
04:14 -!- Flex [i=Flex@unaffiliated/flex] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
04:14 <smoothice> !vote s0beit
04:14 <YandereBot> smoothice has voted for s0beit. s0beit: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:14 <nsh22> !vote sobeit
04:14 <YandereBot> nsh22: sobeit isn't in this game.
04:14 <nsh22> !vote s0beit
04:14 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for s0beit. s0beit: 3, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:14 <luke-jr> …
04:14 <s0beit> ROFL
04:14 <s0beit> xD
04:15 <luke-jr> s0beit: learn to be more deceptive
04:15 <s0beit> !vote KISS MY ASS
04:15 <YandereBot> s0beit: I don't recognize that command.
04:15 <luke-jr> s0beit: try !abstain
04:15 <smoothice> !leave
04:15 <smoothice> !quit
04:15 <smoothice> !end
04:15 <s0beit> !eat a booger
04:15 <smoothice> !die
04:15 <luke-jr> !yandere hurry
04:15 <nsh22> !yandere hurry
04:15 <YandereBot> People are getting impatient! You all have 1 minute to cast your vote before the day ends.
04:15 <nsh22> i help XD
04:15 <s0beit> lololoL!
04:15 <s0beit> roflroflrofl
04:15 <s0beit> wtf is this ish?
04:15 <nsh22> i bet you it isnt him
04:16 <luke-jr> s0beit: type !abstain
04:16 <luke-jr> you lose
04:16 <s0beit> !abstoned
04:16 <nsh22> !abstain
04:16 <YandereBot> nsh22 has switched from s0beit to vote to abstain. s0beit: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:16 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you fail
04:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: NO
04:16 <s0beit> hah!
04:16 <luke-jr> nsh22: change back quick
04:16 <YandereBot> You lynch s0beit, and it turns out s0beit was a worm!
04:16 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
04:16 <YandereBot> Programs: smoothice
04:16 <s0beit> rofl
04:16 <luke-jr> phew
04:16 <YandereBot> Radmins: luke-jr
04:16 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: nsh22
04:16 <YandereBot> Worms: s0beit
04:16 <luke-jr> !yandere help
04:16 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is a variation of the classic Mafia game, also known as Werewolf. Type "!join" to start a game.
04:16 <YandereBot> This is a detective game. It cycles between two phases: During the day, everyone gets together and tries to figure out who they think is a worm, and they can vote to lynch someone. During the night, players with special roles can perform actions that may shed some light.
04:16 <YandereBot> Each night, the worms can pick one player to kill. The object of the game is to find and kill the worms before they kill you. PM conversations between players is allowed at any time, but you MAY NOT copy/paste PM messages into the channel.
04:16 <nsh22> !yandere
04:16 <s0beit> kiss my ass YandereBot
04:16 <luke-jr> !yandere start theme=twg
04:16 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:17 <nsh22> !yandere
04:17 <s0beit> !join
04:17 <YandereBot> s0beit: You don't have permission to do that.
04:17 <s0beit> !yandere
04:17 <luke-jr> s0beit: the instructions are wrong on the command :þ
04:17 <s0beit> meh.
04:17 <luke-jr> known bug
04:17 <luke-jr> care to fix?
04:17 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:18 <s0beit> Ill fix :)
04:18 <luke-jr> s0beit: great
04:18 <luke-jr> bzr branch lp:yandere
04:18 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
04:18 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
04:18 <luke-jr> actually, scratch that
04:18 <luke-jr> bzr branch lp:yandere/backend-cli
04:18 <luke-jr> then run bootstrap to get the rest ☺
04:18 <luke-jr> that way you can test
04:18 <nsh22> having towo clients is confuzzlying
04:18 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:19 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
04:19 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
04:19 <luke-jr> smoothice: where u go
04:19 <BabyBug> luke-jr, project page?
04:19 <luke-jr> BabyBug: https://launchpad.net/yandere
04:19 <s0beit> bzr branch lp:yandere/backend-cli
04:19 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:20 <s0beit> pretty neat luke-jr
04:20 <luke-jr> !yandere extend
04:20 <YandereBot> Added another waiting extension.
04:20 <s0beit> wd
04:20 <luke-jr> …
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04:20 <nsh22> XD
04:20 <Iceknife> !yandere
04:21 <YandereBot> All the programs go about their business one day and notice that TextEdit seems to be missing. After executing for a while, they go to her directory to check on her, and find that she was done in by corrupt memory. This looks like the work of a worm!
04:21 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:21 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:21 <YandereBot> Current players: nsh22, luke-jr, s0beit, and Iceknife.
04:21 <ct|kyle> luke-jr == worm
04:21 <luke-jr> liar
04:21 <Iceknife> it doesn't say what jobs we have?
04:21 <BabyBug> luke-jr, you need a readme!
04:21 <Iceknife> just that we have 1 worm.
04:21 <Iceknife> anyone a virus scanner?
04:22 <luke-jr> BabyBug: it's self explanatory
04:22 <nsh22> !Iceknife
04:22 <BabyBug> still need a readme
04:22 <s0beit> Hmm..
04:22 <nsh22> !vote Iceknife
04:22 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for Iceknife. Iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
04:22 <nsh22> hes looking for a scanner...
04:22 <Iceknife> I'm acutally a kill program not a worm.
04:22 <s0beit> !vote luke-jr
04:22 <YandereBot> s0beit has voted for luke-jr. Iceknife: 1, luke-jr: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:22 <luke-jr> BabyBug: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)
04:22 <Iceknife> !luke-jr
04:22 <Iceknife> !vote luke-jr
04:22 <YandereBot> Iceknife has voted for luke-jr. Iceknife: 1, luke-jr: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:22 <s0beit> heh ;)
04:22 <BabyBug> luke-jr, i mean for the bot
04:22 <luke-jr> BabyBug: that do it?
04:22 <luke-jr> BabyBug: oh that
04:22 <nsh22> i invited this bot to come to my channel XD
04:22 <luke-jr> the commands are announced as needed
04:23 <BabyBug> i mean....running the bot!!
04:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: only admin can tell it
04:23 <nsh22> but cant i invite it?
04:23 <luke-jr> BabyBug: oh, on IRC it is very complex ☹
04:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: nio
04:23 <nsh22> aw
04:23 <Iceknife> waiting on you luke jr.
04:23 <luke-jr> nsh22: where?
04:23 <nsh22> ##foodlovers
04:23 <luke-jr> !vote Iceknife
04:23 <YandereBot> luke-jr has voted for Iceknife. Iceknife: 2, luke-jr: 2, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 0
04:23 <YandereBot> Everyone has voted, but there is a tie. Someone will need to switch their vote, or you can type "!next" and force the group to abstain.
04:23 <luke-jr> !yandere next
04:23 <YandereBot> You fail to make a decision. No one is lynched.
04:23 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:23 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:23 <YandereBot> Current players: nsh22, luke-jr, s0beit, and Iceknife.
04:24 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
04:24 <YandereBot> Iceknife, who is not a worm, was done in by a floating-point error.
04:24 <YandereBot> luke-jr, who is not a worm, has been terminated by a floating-point error.
04:24 <luke-jr> !join ##Foodlovers
04:24 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
04:24 <YandereBot> Kills: luke-jr and Iceknife
04:24 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: nsh22
04:24 <s0beit> :)
04:24 <YandereBot> Worms: s0beit
04:24 <s0beit> You lose.
04:24 <luke-jr> Iceknife: you suck
04:24 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
04:24 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:24 <Iceknife> lol,
04:24 <s0beit> !join
04:24 <YandereBot> s0beit: You don't have permission to do that.
04:24 <Iceknife> !join
04:24 <YandereBot> Iceknife: You don't have permission to do that.
04:24 <Iceknife> !yandere
04:24 <s0beit> F U YANDERBOT!
04:25 <Iceknife> you have to type !yandere
04:25 <Iceknife> it's a bug
04:25 <s0beit> i know -.-"
04:25 <nsh22> !yandere
04:25 <YandereBot> nsh22: You're already playing a game on this network. You can only be in one at a time.
04:25 <smoothice> fail
04:25 <luke-jr> or !yandere join
04:25 <s0beit> !yandere
04:25 <nsh22> !yandere
04:25 <s0beit> BabyBug: Stop being a weeny and join.
04:25 <BabyBug> s0beit, gtfo
04:25 <Iceknife> it's not hard babybug.
04:25 <s0beit> BabyBug: Lick in the grove.
04:25 <YandereBot> Windows was always a corrupt OS. But last night it was confirmed when the system began getting slower and slower. Overnight, KWrite has been savagely killed by a user error. There's only one explanation: there is a worm among us!
04:25 <YandereBot> This game has 1 worm, 1 virus scanner, 1 program, and 1 killall. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:25 <YandereBot> This game starts at DAY. Discuss.
04:25 <luke-jr> oh fun role
04:25 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, Iceknife, s0beit, and nsh22.
04:26 <Iceknife> wow whats a kill all
04:26 <luke-jr> you'll see :D
04:26 <nsh22> 0o it sent it to my other channel lol
04:26 <Iceknife> !yandere help killall
04:26 <luke-jr> it's me
04:26 * BabyBug castrates s0beit
04:26 <Iceknife> !abstain
04:26 <YandereBot> Iceknife has voted to abstain. Abstains: 1, Undecided: 3
04:26 <nsh22> i r porgram
04:26 <nsh22> !vote iceknife
04:26 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for Iceknife. Iceknife: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 2
04:26 <nsh22> luke-jr, : you can take it off my channel lol
04:26 <luke-jr> who is the virus scanner?
04:26 <luke-jr> !part ##Foodlovers
04:27 <nsh22> its useeless there
04:27 -!- Rosalia [n=Classic@CPE001cf0b84942-CM0014e8267f08.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #Armagetron
04:27 <luke-jr> Rosalia: too late
04:27 <Rosalia> For?
04:27 <luke-jr> :þ
04:27 <nsh22> wait a min
04:27 <s0beit> !vote nsh22
04:27 <YandereBot> s0beit has voted for nsh22. Iceknife: 1, nsh22: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 1
04:27 <luke-jr> WHO IS SCANNER
04:27 <Rosalia> Oh.
04:27 <nsh22> ___|___
04:27 <Iceknife> !vote nsh22
04:27 <YandereBot> Iceknife has switched from abstain to vote for nsh22. nsh22: 2, Iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:27 <luke-jr> Iceknife: are you scanner?
04:27 <nsh22> im a program so....
04:27 <Iceknife> since nsh22 voted for me.
04:27 <Iceknife> nope luke-jr.
04:27 <YandereBot> luke-jr activates and terminates Iceknife. Iceknife, a worm, has been killall'd.
04:27 <YandereBot> Congratulations! The last worm has been defeated!
04:27 <YandereBot> Killalls: luke-jr
04:28 <YandereBot> Programs: nsh22
04:28 <luke-jr> ok then
04:28 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: s0beit
04:28 <YandereBot> Worms: Iceknife
04:28 <s0beit> ;)
04:28 <luke-jr> !yandere start visible-roles
04:28 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:28 <nsh22> XD
04:28 <Iceknife> !yandere
04:28 <nsh22> !yandere
04:28 <nsh22> i was right after all...
04:28 <s0beit> ok, time for tv. gnight, sleep tight.
04:28 <luke-jr> pfft
04:28 <luke-jr> s0beit: cmon, for 5 player game
04:28 <BabyBug> fail
04:28 <Iceknife> you've voted for me both time nsh22 eventually you'll be right lol
04:28 <luke-jr> Rosalia:
04:28 <nsh22> XD
04:28 <s0beit> luke-jr: Fine. One more game.
04:28 <Rosalia> !yandere
04:28 <nsh22> thats my logic
04:28 <Rosalia> Thanks.
04:29 <s0beit> !yandre
04:29 <YandereBot> gedit is a quiet, insignificant program. But he's especially quiet today, because he was knocked off with corrupt memory. This looks like the work of a worm!
04:29 <YandereBot> This game has 2 programs, 1 virus scanner, 1 root worm, and 1 kill. It's your job to determine the worms.
04:29 <YandereBot> This game starts at NIGHT. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:29 <luke-jr> :O
04:29 <YandereBot> Current players: luke-jr, Iceknife, nsh22, Rosalia, and s0beit.
04:29 <s0beit> !vote luke-jr
04:29 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that s0beit has any special ability.
04:29 <s0beit> !vote nsh22
04:29 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that s0beit has any special ability.
04:29 <nsh22> !vote s0beit
04:29 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that nsh22 has any special ability.
04:29 <luke-jr> stfu retards
04:30 <luke-jr> it's night
04:30 <s0beit> HAHAHA
04:30 <Iceknife> will the worm hurry up and kill someone.
04:30 <Iceknife> so we can continue.
04:30 <BabyBug> Iceknife is the worm
04:30 <luke-jr> maybe he did
04:30 <luke-jr> and we're waiting for the virus scanner?
04:31 <luke-jr> or the kill program
04:31 <nsh22> zzzzzzzzz
04:31 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
04:31 <YandereBot> luke-jr, a program, was knocked off with the PC speaker's magnetic field.
04:31 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:31 <YandereBot> Current players: Iceknife, nsh22, Rosalia, and s0beit.
04:31 <luke-jr> f u
04:31 <s0beit> LOL!
04:31 <s0beit> HAHAHA
04:31 <Iceknife> hahaha.. that is funny right there.
04:31 <nsh22> !vote iceknife
04:31 <YandereBot> nsh22 has voted for Iceknife. Iceknife: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 3
04:31 <s0beit> you got knocked the fuck off
04:31 <nsh22> i has insight
04:31 <Iceknife> !vote nsh22
04:31 <YandereBot> Iceknife has voted for nsh22. Iceknife: 1, nsh22: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 2
04:31 <Iceknife> nsh22 you always vote for me. I think you are the worm this time.
04:31 <s0beit> !vote rosalia
04:31 <YandereBot> s0beit has voted for Rosalia. Iceknife: 1, nsh22: 1, Rosalia: 1, Abstains: 0, Undecided: 1
04:32 <Rosalia> o.o
04:32 <Rosalia> Why me?
04:32 <Iceknife> oh yeah rosalia tricked us last time!
04:32 <s0beit> hhehe
04:32 <Rosalia> What?
04:32 <luke-jr> s0beit: that was absolutely stupid
04:32 <s0beit> luke-jr: Kiss my asS
04:32 <s0beit> :D
04:32 <Iceknife> wasn't that rosalia who tricked us last time luke-jr?
04:32 <Iceknife> or was it someone else?
04:32 <luke-jr> …
04:32 <Rosalia> How? When? What?
04:32 <luke-jr> no idea which time
04:32 <luke-jr> Rosalia can trick any of you anyday
04:32 <Iceknife> the one who acted like a noob the whole time
04:32 <Rosalia> =D Why thank you.
04:32 <luke-jr> oh
04:32 <luke-jr> no
04:32 <luke-jr> Rosalia is a good player
04:33 <luke-jr> she couldn't feign noob if she tried
04:33 <Iceknife> ah.. okay.
04:33 <Rosalia> xD Could too!
04:33 <luke-jr> …
04:33 <Iceknife> Rosalia are you the worm?
04:33 <s0beit> Ahem, AWAKEN YANDERE!
04:33 <Rosalia> No.
04:33 <Rosalia> !abstain
04:33 <YandereBot> Rosalia has voted to abstain. Iceknife: 1, nsh22: 1, Rosalia: 1, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 0
04:33 <YandereBot> Everyone has voted, but there is a tie. Someone will need to switch their vote, or you can type "!next" and force the group to abstain.
04:33 <Iceknife> !next
04:33 * nsh22 pops another antipsycotic
04:33 <Iceknife> !vote rosalia
04:33 <YandereBot> Iceknife has switched from nsh22 to vote for Rosalia. Iceknife: 1, Rosalia: 2, Abstains: 1, Undecided: 0
04:33 <YandereBot> You lynch Rosalia, and it turns out Rosalia was a kill!
04:33 <YandereBot> There is 1 worm still at large.
04:33 <Rosalia> Wtf?
04:33 <YandereBot> Night time falls. If you have a night role, type "/msg YandereBot <command>" or "/msg YandereBot !abstain".
04:33 <YandereBot> Current players: Iceknife, nsh22, and s0beit.
04:33 <luke-jr> fools
04:33 <s0beit> hah!
04:33 <nsh22> !vote iceknife
04:33 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that nsh22 has any special ability.
04:33 <Rosalia> Morons.
04:34 <Iceknife> well was waiting for someone.
04:34 <s0beit> !vote nsh22
04:34 <YandereBot> Commands in the channel are ignored during the night. Please PM them to me instead. This message does not imply that s0beit has any special ability.
04:34 <s0beit> -.-
04:34 <YandereBot> Morning comes with the stench of death.
04:34 <YandereBot> nsh22, a virus scanner, was wasted by a fork bomb.
04:34 <YandereBot> Game over! The worm wins!
04:34 <YandereBot> Kills: Rosalia
04:34 <Iceknife> :-)
04:34 <YandereBot> Programs: luke-jr and s0beit
04:34 <YandereBot> Root worms: Iceknife
04:34 <YandereBot> Virus scanners: nsh22
04:34 <Rosalia> Hehe.
04:34 <nsh22> ... i g2g
04:34 <s0beit> gg Iceknife
04:34 <Iceknife> so you see why I did it Rosalia lol
04:34 <s0beit> ;)
04:34 <Rosalia> Later.
04:34 <luke-jr> !yandere start blind -m allow-early-kill
04:34 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
04:34 <nsh22> bye everyone
04:34 <s0beit> cu
04:34 <s0beit> gnight
04:34 <Rosalia> xD
04:34 <Iceknife> !yandere
04:35 -!- s0beit [n=s0beit@user-1120489.dsl.mindspring.com] has quit ["Java user signed off"]
04:35 <Iceknife> I was like heck this is a free kill for me
04:35 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has quit ["the computer has been thrown across the room"]
04:35 <BabyBug> !quit
04:35 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
04:35 <BabyBug> stupid bot
04:35 <Iceknife> we lost two players we aren't going to have enough :-(
04:35 <Rosalia> !yandere
04:36 <Iceknife> mainly because I'm proud of this.. here is my pratical joke on the new guy who decided to take friday off.. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a27/iceknife/IMAG0066.jpg
04:36 <Iceknife> http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a27/iceknife/IMAG0060.jpg
04:36 <YandereBot> There aren't enough players to start the Worm Game. Try again later.
04:36 <luke-jr> aw
04:36 <Iceknife> I still have to put up the hannah montana wall stickers and the high school musical posters tomorrow.
04:37 <luke-jr> it's ok
04:37 <luke-jr> I told my wife I'd go to bed now.
04:37 <Rosalia> o.o
04:37 <Iceknife> Night luke-jr
04:37 <Rosalia> Night.
04:37 <Iceknife> he should be pretty shocked when he comes into work on monday :-)
04:37 <BabyBug> good riddance to ya luke-jr!
04:37 <Rosalia> xD Very nice, Iceknife.
04:38 <Iceknife> I'm pretty excited about the wall stickers they are 6ft tall...
04:38 <Iceknife> and he HATES hannah montana and high school musical :-)
04:38 <Iceknife> I found them at a dollar store.
04:38 <Rosalia> xD
04:38 <Rosalia> You're an awesome practical joker.
04:38 <Iceknife> just hoping my boss doesn't get mad lol.
04:39 <Rosalia> xD
04:39 <Iceknife> I don't think we have any tours tomorrow at the data center.
04:39 <Iceknife> I'd like to think he has a sense of humor. :-)
04:39 <Iceknife> I did this all off company time and bought all the materials myself.
04:40 <luke-jr> Iceknife: wait
04:40 <luke-jr> Data center? Omaha?
04:40 <luke-jr> where is this?:
04:41 <Iceknife> I'm Data Center: Rock Port which is close to omaha.
04:41 <luke-jr> Rock Port has internet?
04:41 <luke-jr> O.o
04:41 <Iceknife> yeah, we have a self healing sonnet ring.
04:41 <Rosalia> o.o
04:41 <luke-jr> wtf
04:41 <luke-jr> Rock Port is like
04:41 <luke-jr> tiny
04:41 <Iceknife> Thats why it was ideal. We are in the middle of nowhere, makes us ideal for data storage.
04:41 <luke-jr> >_<
04:42 <Iceknife> Plus we are 100% green energy.
04:42 <luke-jr> screw green crap
04:42 <Iceknife> Yep we have blazing fast connection to our data center.
04:42 <Iceknife> Thats why they built it in rock port. The pipe that runs from kc and omaha goes through Rock Port.
04:42 <luke-jr> real green energy is illegal
04:42 <luke-jr> cuz you have idiot liberals running everything
04:42 <Iceknife> We are 100% wind energy.
04:42 <luke-jr> waste
04:42 <luke-jr> wind energy sucks
04:42 <Iceknife> :-p I hate it because our electric bills are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
04:43 <luke-jr> build a nuclear power plant
04:43 <luke-jr> clean and efficient
04:43 <Iceknife> I pay $300+ a month in electric bills.
04:43 <Iceknife> We have a nuclear power plant in brownville 8 miles away
04:43 <luke-jr> or use KC's nuclear plant
04:43 <luke-jr> that might actually be practical
04:43 <Iceknife> That is our backup power.
04:43 <luke-jr> just use it all the time
04:43 <luke-jr> no need for the wind crap
04:44 <Iceknife> Then we have 2 cummins diesel backup generators if we have no power.
04:44 <luke-jr> wait, your backup is outsourced?
04:44 <BabyBug> luke-jr, how can you say nuclear waste is clean?
04:44 <luke-jr> oh, you have a backup of that backup
04:44 <Iceknife> no our backup is not outsourced.
04:44 <Iceknife> yep we have 4 data centers.
04:44 <luke-jr> BabyBug: nuclear *power* is clean
04:44 <luke-jr> BabyBug: the only problem w/ nuclear power is if someone bombs it
04:44 <Iceknife> main one is rock port. We have a floor at the mna building in kc that is unstaffed, then a center in Oregon and one in Indy.
04:45 <Iceknife> BabyBug there is very little nuclear wastes.
04:45 <BabyBug> whether it's little or not makes no difference...
04:45 <BabyBug> It's still worse than coal!
04:45 <Iceknife> A lot of people that work at the data center their significant others work at the nuclear plant.
04:45 * luke-jr notes nuclear power is also the SAFEST of all current power sources
04:45 <Iceknife> BabyBuy you are crazy lol.
04:45 <Rosalia> o.o
04:46 <Iceknife> Coal is by far the worst. Unless you are talking the clean coal and then it's still worse then nuclear
04:46 <Iceknife> plus the clean coal centers are very very very pricey.
04:46 <luke-jr> nuclear is cleanest, safest, and cheapest
04:46 <BabyBug> well it depends on your opinion i guess...Too me nuclear waste is worse than lots of CO2 in the air...
04:47 <Iceknife> nuclear waste that doesn't directly kill you because it can be stored, or killing off our oxygen supply lol
04:48 <Rosalia> And why is nuclear waste worse?
04:48 <BabyBug> The Earth's gonna be gone eventually anyway...why prolong it? I say make CO2 generators!
04:48 <Rosalia> o.O
04:48 <Iceknife> babybug = troll lol
04:48 -!- tramshed [n=tramshed@tramshed.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #armagetron
04:48 <BabyBug> ><
04:48 <Rosalia> -Just- realized.
04:49 <BabyBug> No i'm not =P In all seriousness..I just don't agree with nuclear crappy stuff
04:49 <BabyBug> wind, wave or whatever fine...nuclear...nuuuuuu!
04:49 <Rosalia> People without reasons don't deserve opinions.
04:49 <Iceknife> why not babybug? It's considered the cleanest energy.
04:49 <BabyBug> Chernobyl
04:50 <BabyBug> There's my reason
04:50 <Iceknife> Chernobyl was an old reactor that they didn't keep up to date like they should.
04:50 <Iceknife> technology has changed.
04:50 <BabyBug> Iceknife, Well resources have to be put into to disposing of the nuclear waste. So it's not cleaner than wind/wave.
04:50 <Iceknife> BabyBug it's not nuclear waste like you see on tv.
04:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: nuclear is cleanest, safest, and cheapest
04:50 <luke-jr> sweet
04:50 <Iceknife> most of the waste is recycled and can be used for other things.
04:50 <smoothice> FINALLY!
04:51 <luke-jr> ivantis just got K-lined
04:51 <BabyBug> It still has to be disposed off.
04:51 <BabyBug> luke-jr, How? O.o
04:51 <Iceknife> you don't get it, it's not this radiated bunch of green goo like you see on tv.
04:51 <luke-jr> BabyBug: his logger bot is in no-logging-allowed channels apparently
04:51 <Iceknife> they even break a lot of it up and ship to schools to play with in classes.
04:51 <luke-jr> BabyBug: launch it into the sun ☺
04:52 <BabyBug> luke-jr, can't we just launch you to the sun? ^^
04:52 <luke-jr> in theory
04:53 <BabyBug> ...
04:53 <Rosalia> xD
04:53 <BabyBug> *pushes Rosalia down a well*
04:53 <Rosalia> o.O
04:53 <BabyBug> x)
04:54 <Rosalia> It's hard to decide whether to laugh or be annoyed.
04:54 <BabyBug> Personally, I find being wet a turn on =)
04:54 <luke-jr> uh oh
04:54 <Rosalia> o.o
04:54 <luke-jr> now we have two girls fighting it out in #Armagetron
04:54 <Rosalia> Okay, I'm going to go with being creeped out instead.
04:54 <luke-jr> wtf has the world come to?
04:55 <Iceknife> FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
04:55 <Iceknife> !wager Rosalia 22 loli
04:55 <Rosalia> xD
04:55 <Iceknife> hmm your bot is broken luke-jr
04:55 <BabyBug> :o What's creepy about that?!
04:55 <luke-jr> Iceknife: no
04:56 <Iceknife> Spent fuel rods are stored in shielded basins of water (spent fuel pools), usually located on-site. The water provides both cooling for the still-decaying fission products, and shielding from the continuing radioactivity. After a few decades some on-site storage involves moving the now cooler, less radioactive fuel to a dry-storage facility or dry cask storage, where the fuel is stored in steel and concrete containers until its radioactivit
04:56 <Iceknife> y decreases naturally ("decays") to levels safe enough for other processing. This interim stage spans years or decades, depending on the type of fuel. Most U.S. waste is currently stored in temporary storage sites requiring oversight, while suitable permanent disposal methods are discussed.
04:56 <BabyBug> You don't seriously expect me to read all that?
04:57 <Iceknife> So you see they store it and it NATURALLY decreases in radiation.
04:57 <Iceknife> it's S A F E
04:57 <Rosalia> BabyBug: We realize it's a strain, but try your best. I'll even explain the longer words.
04:57 <luke-jr> ROFL
04:57 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: what do you think of the LHC :P
04:58 <BabyBug> Hrmph...If I didn't admit to being crap at english...I might just being offended there Rosalia =P
04:58 <BabyBug> English is a crappy language
04:58 <luke-jr> night retarsd
04:58 <BabyBug> Welsh rox! \o/
04:58 <luke-jr> [21:58:16] <BabyBug> English is a crappy language
04:58 <luke-jr> that has got to be the smartest thing I've heard you say
04:58 <Rosalia> I always find it strange how many people learn English just to tell me it sucks.
04:59 <BabyBug> Pffft, you're just jealous luke-jr cause you don't get any of my pics!
04:59 <luke-jr> BabyBug: like I need your pics
04:59 <luke-jr> goodnight, off to bed with my naked wife
04:59 <BabyBug> Rosalia, because cunt land (England) refuses to learn Welsh.
04:59 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: they may be cheaper than your wife
05:00 <Rosalia> ct|kyle: But quality is impotrant.
05:00 <Rosalia> Important*
05:00 <Rosalia> Night, luke-jr.
05:00 <Rosalia> BabyBug: All the better to not hear you, my dear.
05:01 <BabyBug> Rosalia, ermmm... Whut? O.o i can't make any sense of that =x
05:02 <Rosalia> Hmm. English story reference. Essentially I am saying it is good that England does not learn Welsh because that way they don't have such a great likelihood of having to listen to you.
05:02 <ct|kyle> heh
05:02 <BabyBug> pfft...England couldn't live without Wales.
05:03 <BabyBug> They all try to move here to get free medication....free education...The english suck
05:03 <Rosalia> You sound like Montreal.
05:04 * BabyBug will buy herself a saw on day and saw Wales away from England!
05:04 <BabyBug> Montreal?
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05:05 <Rosalia> A city in Quebec, Canada. Hates the hell out of Toronto because of jealousy, insults it all the time... And Toronto doesn't even notice its pathetic little villany.
05:05 <Iceknife> free education and fee medication.... oh dear lord... socalist!!!
05:05 <ct|kyle> hell that's what the US will be in 100 days
05:06 <BabyBug> Rosalia, Welsh people arn't jealous of the English ><
05:06 <ct|kyle> (sad face)
05:06 <Iceknife> ct|kyle I hate you for saying that.
05:06 <Rosalia> How come?
05:06 <ct|kyle> i't not like i voted for it
05:06 <ct|kyle> it's
05:06 <Rosalia> BabyBug: Of course not.
05:06 <Iceknife> I know, but I try to block it out of my mind mister kyle lol
05:07 <ct|kyle> at least they are moving towards linux for computers
05:07 <ct|kyle> brb
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05:07 <BabyBug> Rosalia, >< There's nothing to be jealous of from the English.... Wales get's everything first before England \o/...
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05:09 <Iceknife> lol.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDAr48u3BB0 now this is a commercial.
05:09 <Rosalia> BabyBug: I'm sure.
05:10 <BabyBug> Rosalia, I'm glad you agree x)
05:10 <Rosalia> Now shut up and go away. ^^
05:10 <BabyBug> ='(
05:10 <BabyBug> meanie
05:11 <Rosalia> You pushed me down a well for no reason. I do not start fights.
05:12 <BabyBug> I do alot of things randomly...push down wells...off cliffs...hug people..kiss people...Don't take it so personally! :@
05:12 <Rosalia> Uh... no.
05:12 <ct|kyle> she cuddles me
05:12 <BabyBug> I do not cuddle you
05:12 <BabyBug> i castrate you
05:12 <ct|kyle> :P
05:13 <ct|kyle> no you don't do that very often and remember you ran out of room on your shelf
05:13 * BabyBug wuddles up to Rosalia, forgive me? *stares with big puppy dog eyes*
05:15 <Rosalia> o.O Ew.
05:15 <Iceknife> get a room!
05:15 <BabyBug> ew? hrmm....not bi then? =(
05:17 <Rosalia> O.o And even less likely to be now.
05:17 <BabyBug> =(
05:18 <BabyBug> hrmm...better not say anything else as i don't know your age =x
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05:27 <BabyBug> Lucifer, ping...armabot's ops =x
05:27 <BabyBug> Night! *winks at ct|kyle*
05:28 <ct|kyle> o0 winks, new one
05:28 <BabyBug> ^^ \o
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05:43 <smoothice> #Ping
05:43 <@armabot> pong
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07:01 <signalONe> Hi soapy
07:01 <Soapy> hi
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10:29 <Lizmatic> BabyBug wuddled someone else, e-cheater!
10:29 * Lizmatic licks ct|kyle
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11:44 <wrtlprnft> #quit
11:44 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has quit ["wrtlprnft"]
11:45 <wrtlprnft> i love how she always blames me
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11:47 <wrtlprnft> what the f*
11:47 <wrtlprnft> #quit
11:47 <wrtlprnft> die!
11:47 <armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
11:47 <wrtlprnft> #quit
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13:05 <madmax> #eliza do you like wrtlprnft?
13:06 <madmax> :-/
13:06 <armabot> madmax: What do you think?
13:06 <madmax> #eliza I don't think so, he killed you
13:06 <armabot> madmax: Why do you say you do not think so he killed me?
13:06 <madmax> -_-
13:11 <wrtlprnft> haha
13:11 <wrtlprnft> a little braindead
13:13 <wrtlprnft> i just moved her to somewhere with a little more room
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14:00 <madmax> http://code.google.com/p/blackgold/issues/detail?id=3
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14:11 <nsh22> hey epsy
14:12 <epsy> hi
14:45 <nsh22> YES! i got weather working in my bit :D
14:46 <nsh22> bot*
14:46 * nsh22 is happy
14:46 <epsy> um, w00t
14:47 <nsh22> lol
14:47 * wrtlprnft has easy access to a window
14:47 <epsy> stoopid netradiant :<
14:47 <wrtlprnft> poor people who don't
14:47 <epsy> that sounded weird wrtlprnft
14:47 <wrtlprnft> why?
14:47 <nsh22> wrtlprnft, how did you get google working with yourbot, did u need an api key?
14:48 <epsy> « access to a window »
14:48 <epsy> nsh22, I use QGoogle
14:48 <wrtlprnft> nsh22: i got a key when they still offered them :-)
14:48 <nsh22> is it a plugin?
14:48 <nsh22> oh so im SOL?
14:48 <epsy> nsh22, but somehow, supybot will ALWAYS use the google command from the Google plugin, whatever I told it to do
14:48 <nsh22> ...
14:49 <wrtlprnft> then unload the google plugin if you can't get it to work?
14:49 <epsy> google calc is on that plugin
14:49 <nsh22> ok ill go get it
14:49 <epsy> I guess I should just hack out the google plugin
14:49 <epsy> er, command
14:49 <wrtlprnft> err, google calc needs an api key, too
14:49 <epsy> nope
14:49 <wrtlprnft> oh?
14:50 <epsy> @google hello
14:50 <epsy> @calc 1+1
14:50 <epsy> only if it was here
14:50 <nsh22> ^^
14:50 <wrtlprnft> install the yahoo plugin, then… calc is the most useful part of google, anyways
14:50 * epsy has an alias to kill teabot :<
14:51 <nsh22> umm you wouldnt happen to know where yoou got qgoogle would you (yes im searchin on google)
14:51 <epsy> it was in a plugin pack
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14:51 <epsy> probably around the supybot website
14:51 <wrtlprnft> epsy: it's #ArMaGeTroN, ffs!
14:52 * epsy is not teabot!
14:52 <wrtlprnft> prove it.
14:52 <epsy> nsh22, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=58965
14:52 <teabot> I'm not epsy either
14:52 <wrtlprnft> epsy: ok, teabot appears to be a little more intelligent, but I still think you're just teabot playing dumb.
14:53 <epsy> supybots can't connect two times to the same network!
14:53 <nsh22> epsy, so its in that plugin acage on the bottoim, i already have it but theres no qgoogle
14:53 <wrtlprnft> yes they can. and they'll flood every channel they're in
14:54 <epsy> that would be two supybots running on the same config
14:59 <nsh22> LAWL i just played russuin roulette with my bot
14:59 <wrtlprnft> #roulette
15:00 <nsh22> @roulette
15:00 <teabot> *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?!
15:00 <nsh22> damn
15:00 * teabot reloads and spins the chambers.
15:00 <nsh22> @monologue
15:00 <teabot> nsh22: Your current monologue is at least 3 lines long.
15:00 <nsh22> @coin
15:00 <teabot> nsh22: tails
15:00 <nsh22> @coin
15:00 <teabot> nsh22: tails
15:01 <nsh22> @coin
15:01 <teabot> nsh22: tails
15:01 <nsh22> ...
15:02 <epsy> wrtlprnft, cheater
15:02 <epsy> nsh22, there's also filters too :)
15:03 <epsy> @gnu wrtlprnft is cheating!
15:03 <teabot> epsy: GNU/wrtlprnft GNU/is GNU/cheating!
15:03 <nsh22> @scramble what the fuck does this do?
15:03 <teabot> nsh22: what the fcuk deos this do?
15:04 <nsh22> :)
15:04 <nsh22> @supa1337 waddup
15:04 <teabot> nsh22: \/\//-\<|<||_|p
15:04 * nsh22 likes python now
15:05 <nsh22> is ython a good language to start with?
15:05 <nsh22> 0110100001101001
15:06 <epsy> @8ball is python a good language to start with?
15:06 <teabot> epsy: No chance.
15:08 <nsh22> @shrink i think i know this odd language you speak of epsy
15:08 <teabot> nsh22: i t3k i k2w t2s odd l6e you s3k of e2y
15:08 <nsh22> :)
15:09 <epsy> @i18n -.-
15:09 <teabot> epsy: -1-
15:10 <nsh22> @unshrink i t3k i k2w t2s odd l6e you s3k of e2y
15:10 <epsy> @windows sucks at haandling long filenames
15:10 <teabot> epsy: SUCKS AT HAANDL~1 LONG FILENA~1
15:10 <nsh22> lol
15:10 <nsh22> fiking ~s
15:12 <nsh22> wrtlprnft, is it possibkle to share apis?
15:13 <epsy> @list plugin
15:13 <teabot> epsy: author, contributors, help, list, and plugin
15:13 <epsy> @plugin help QGoogle
15:13 <teabot> epsy: Add the help for "@plugin help QGoogle" here This should describe *how* to use this plugin.
15:13 <epsy> @plugin info QGoogle
15:13 <teabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "info QGoogle".
15:13 <epsy> @plugin authors QGoogle
15:13 <teabot> epsy: Error: There is no command "authors QGoogle".
15:13 <epsy> @plugin author QGoogle
15:13 <teabot> epsy: Unknown author (unknown) <unknown AT supybot DOT org>
15:14 <epsy> @plugin contributors QGoogle
15:14 <teabot> epsy: The QGoogle plugin has not been claimed by an author and has no contributors listed.
15:14 <nsh22> @qgoogle
15:14 <epsy> @qgoogle google hello
15:14 <nsh22> @qgoogle how to get this plugin
15:14 <teabot> epsy: http://www.hello.com/ - Hello
15:14 <nsh22> @qgoogle google how to get this plugin
15:14 <teabot> nsh22: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/ - Adobe Flash Player
15:14 <nsh22> ....
15:14 <epsy> what did you expect
15:14 <nsh22> does qgoogle do the calculations a s well
15:15 <epsy> no
15:15 <epsy> use @calc
15:15 <nsh22> aw
15:15 <epsy> it works without an api key
15:15 <epsy> @google hello
15:15 <teabot> epsy: http://www.hello.com/ - Hello
15:15 <epsy> @calc 1+1
15:15 <nsh22> @calc (2+3)/2
15:15 <teabot> epsy: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
15:15 <epsy> wait
15:15 <epsy> wtf
15:15 <teabot> nsh22: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
15:15 <nsh22> #g (2+3)/2
15:15 <epsy> Error: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable
15:16 <armabot> nsh22: (2 + 3) / 2 = 2.5
15:17 <epsy> @calc 1+1
15:17 <nsh22> #math calc (2+3)/2
15:17 <armabot> nsh22: 2.5
15:17 <teabot> epsy: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
15:17 <nsh22> @math calc (2+3)/2
15:17 <teabot> nsh22: 2.5
15:17 <nsh22> XD
15:17 <nsh22> its cuz its for math and google
15:18 <epsy> ?
15:18 <nsh22> you need to specify the math plugin
15:18 <nsh22> i.e @math
15:18 <epsy> @help defaultplugin
15:18 <teabot> epsy: (defaultplugin [--remove] <command> [<plugin>]) -- Sets the default plugin for <command> to <plugin>. If --remove is given, removes the current default plugin for <command>. If no plugin is given, returns the current default plugin set for <command>.
15:18 <nsh22> @math calc 2F in c
15:18 <teabot> nsh22: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
15:18 <nsh22> @google calc 2F in c
15:18 <teabot> nsh22: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
15:19 <nsh22> well, google calc works on my hannel so im happy
15:19 <nsh22> channel*
15:19 <epsy> @quit nsh22
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15:19 <nsh22> orly?
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15:20 <epsy> if I don't specify an argument it puts my nick instead
15:20 * epsy hates that
15:20 <nsh22> should i bring my bot in here?
15:20 <epsy> @calc 1+1
15:20 <nsh22> lol
15:20 <epsy> avoid that
15:20 <nsh22> avoid bringing it here? ok
15:21 <teabot> epsy: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
15:21 <epsy> epsy: wtf happened?
15:21 <nsh22> @math calc 25c in k
15:21 <teabot> nsh22: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
15:21 <nsh22> @math calc 25C in K
15:21 <teabot> nsh22: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
15:21 <nsh22> @math calc 25C in F
15:21 <teabot> nsh22: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
15:21 <epsy> I love the "line 1" part
15:21 <nsh22> @math calc 25c in f
15:21 <teabot> nsh22: Error: invalid syntax (line 1)
15:21 <epsy> nsh22, it's a simple calculator
15:22 <nsh22> @google calc 25C in F
15:22 <epsy> only interprets basic arithmetics
15:22 <teabot> nsh22: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
15:22 <nsh22> i had the wrong plugin in
15:22 <epsy> and google returns a 503 for some reason
15:22 <nsh22> #g 25c in f
15:22 <armabot> nsh22: 25 degrees Celsius = 77 degrees Fahrenheit
15:24 <nsh22> anyways:<epsy> @8ball is python a good language to start with?
15:24 <nsh22> <teabot> epsy: No chance.
15:25 <nsh22> so why is it not a good language to start in?
15:25 <epsy> If teabot itself says so.
15:25 <nsh22> ....
15:25 <epsy> ::::
15:25 <nsh22> what is YOUR opinion on python then...
15:26 <epsy> slow
15:26 <nsh22> slow?
15:26 <epsy> half the programs done with it are buggy, too
15:26 <epsy> or annoying
15:26 <epsy> BabyBug, so, what's up with your IRC bot?
15:28 <nsh22> lucifer: international members?
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15:31 <nsh22> wth is babel fish
15:34 <epsy> translation tool
15:34 <nsh22> ah
15:35 <nsh22> nsh22: Error: Babelfish has foiled our plans by changing its webpage format.
15:36 <nsh22> ffs
15:38 <nsh22> #ls greenmonster
15:38 <armabot> nsh22: timed out
15:39 <nsh22> #lastseen greenmonster
15:39 <armabot> nsh22: timed out
15:39 <nsh22> ...
15:44 <epsy> you seem to be very angry at bots
15:44 <nsh22> no not really
15:44 <nsh22> anyways, what is a good beginners programming language?
15:45 <epsy> whatever makes sense when reading it
15:45 <nsh22> .....
15:45 <nsh22> nothinig makes sense to me (programming wise)
15:46 <epsy> when you see something like
15:47 <epsy> if ( se_hasMudkipz )
15:47 <epsy> {
15:47 <epsy> GiveCookie();
15:47 <nsh22> nope
15:47 <epsy> }
15:47 <nsh22> oh, it gives a cookie!
15:47 <epsy> do you understand anything?
15:47 <nsh22> oh, it gives a cookie!
15:47 <epsy> does it always give a cookie?
15:47 <nsh22> when se_hasMudkipz
15:48 <nsh22> like if that happens
15:48 <nsh22> it give a cookie to the person in the brakets in GiveCookie()
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15:51 <nsh22> brb need food
15:51 <epsy> nsh22, good :)
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15:53 <nsh22> ok back
15:53 <nsh22> so wheres my cookie?
15:53 <nsh22> lol
15:54 <nsh22> which language is that?
15:55 <epsy> C or C++
15:55 <nsh22> ah
15:55 <epsy> you could start from there <http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/>
15:56 <nsh22> could i do c or c++ on notepad++ or Pspad?
15:56 <epsy> I guess so
15:58 <nsh22> it says some stuff about compilers, where do i get one?
15:59 <epsy> ah
16:07 <nsh22> is thee any free, good, compliers?
16:07 <nsh22> there*
16:07 <nsh22> wait
16:07 <nsh22> nvm
16:08 <nsh22> i g2g
16:08 * nsh22 is away: doing something else, and will quite possibly never get your message :) thank you
16:29 <Lizmatic> nsh2 is fapping
16:30 <nsh22> ??
16:30 * nsh22 is back (gone 00:22:47)
16:31 <nsh22> anyways: is there any good free compilers>
16:34 <nsh22> ok im getting visual c__ express edition,2008, i s that any good?
16:34 <nsh22> c++*
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16:45 <nsh22> i wonder what my ping would will be on tron while im downloading this...
16:45 <ct|kyle> 327
16:45 <nsh22> lool
16:47 <nsh22> lol its normal
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17:50 <nsh22> wewt
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17:50 <nsh22> im slowly starting to understand c++ (i think)
17:54 <ct|kyle> nsh22: beep(10000, 500)
17:54 <ct|kyle> :P
17:54 <nsh22> huh?
17:55 <ct|kyle> beeps at 10000 herts for 500 miliseconds :P
17:55 <ct|kyle> with windows library i think
17:55 <nsh22> beep (1,1)
17:55 <nsh22> beep (10000,500)
17:55 <nsh22> oh for c++?
17:55 <ct|kyle> ya LOL
17:55 <nsh22> lol im installing it atm
17:55 <nsh22> its taking ages
17:56 -!- Genki1 [n=Jenny@ip70-176-82-12.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #armagetron
17:56 <ct|kyle> actaully while (1==1){cout<<"/a/a/a/a/a";}
17:56 <Lizmatic> GenKILL?
17:56 <nsh22> why would i do that?
17:57 <ct|kyle> try it and find out
17:57 <nsh22> it says something
17:57 <nsh22> doesnt it
17:58 <ct|kyle> \a is system allert
17:58 <nsh22> lol.
17:58 <nsh22> im rweading the tut, half way through the variables
17:58 <nsh22> 2nd chapter
17:59 <ct|kyle> i got star wars theme song program for system speaker :)
17:59 <nsh22> lol wow
17:59 <ct|kyle> onlt 1 or 2 notes are off
17:59 <ct|kyle> only*
17:59 <nsh22> lol noob
17:59 <nsh22> XD
18:00 <ct|kyle> that is because i don't know how 2 notes played at the same time can be generated on 1 speaker
18:00 <nsh22> use two comps at the same time XD
18:02 <ct|kyle> ya C++ programming year was fun :)
18:02 <nsh22> ok, finnaly got c++ installed
18:02 <nsh22> for free XD
18:03 <ct|kyle> i have it for free :P
18:03 <nsh22> through microsoft?
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18:04 <ct|kyle> who in thier right mind uses microsoft anymore
18:04 -!- Genki1 [n=Jenny@ip70-176-82-12.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit]
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18:04 <nsh22> peopel who cant afford macs
18:04 <ct|kyle> who in thier right mind use macs
18:04 <nsh22> or are to lazy to get one
18:04 <nsh22> well what do you use
18:04 <nsh22> linux?
18:04 <ct|kyle> :)
18:05 <nsh22> penguins....
18:05 <nsh22> ok, back to the tutorial
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18:15 <armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r859 Major refactoring:... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r858 Added signed VarInt streaming.... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r857 Implemented VarInt reading and writing.... || [armagetronad-old-glancing] r751 Merge with trunk...
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18:18 <nsh22> how do i compile in c++?
18:18 <Lizmatic> It's simple!
18:18 <Lizmatic> Just do some stuff and then some other stuff
18:18 <nsh22> geee thanks...
18:18 <ct|kyle> make
18:18 <nsh22> :)
18:18 <BabyBug> Lizmatic you bimbo
18:18 <Lizmatic> 1 word: ROSALIA :'(
18:18 <BabyBug> ><
18:19 <Lizmatic> That's right, bish
18:19 * ct|kyle winks at BabyBug, you are finally up :P
18:19 <nsh22> anyways... how do i compile?
18:20 <BabyBug> g++ file.cpp
18:20 <nsh22> ??
18:20 <Lizmatic> Nerd
18:20 <Lizmatic> !
18:21 <BabyBug> Jealous!
18:21 <Lizmatic> yes...madly jealous..
18:21 <nsh22> !@#$%^&*
18:22 <BabyBug> hey...i never said what you were jealous of ;)
18:22 <nsh22> join #C++
18:22 <ct|kyle> ##C++
18:22 <Lizmatic> omgosh, so crowded
18:22 <Lizmatic> that channel scurred meh
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18:23 <ct|kyle> nsh22: #python has more
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18:32 <freako> k-yo u there?
18:34 <epsy> nsh22, er, I would rather use GCC than MSVC
18:34 <nsh22> huh?
18:35 <epsy> GCC is an opensauce compiler
18:35 <nsh22> im getting dev-c++
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18:35 <epsy> that's from MS right?
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18:36 <nsh22> ?
18:37 <epsy> MS means microsoft
18:37 <nsh22> i know (im not braindead,, but pretty close...)
18:38 <epsy> so, er, what's the question mark related to
18:38 <epsy> ?
18:38 <nsh22> nvm
18:38 <nsh22> i was confuzed for a second
18:38 <nsh22> and its not from ms
18:39 <epsy> ah, that's an IDE
18:39 <epsy> arma devs use code::blocks on windows as IDE
18:39 <nsh22> yes it is
18:39 <epsy> and well, it looks a little outdated
18:40 <epsy> I mean, .. CVS support ...
18:51 <nsh22> ok i got it working
18:51 <nsh22> now i need to go get a job lol
18:52 * nsh22 is away: doing something else, and will quite possibly never get your message :) thank you
18:52 <K-Yo> #ls frea
18:52 <armabot> K-Yo: -»|freako has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 3 minutes ago.
18:56 <freako> :)
18:57 <ct|kyle> #ls |<
18:58 <armabot> ct|kyle: timed out
18:58 <freako> :/
18:59 <freako> try
18:59 <freako> #ls ¦<
18:59 <armabot> freako: ¦< seems to be on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 right now.
19:00 <freako> ":)
19:02 <ct|kyle> #si Classic Play
19:02 <armabot> ct|kyle: Tigers Network Classic Play: Players (4/16): fucktard, Greg, Player 2, Player 3, PROF. FUCK HOLE, WHite stuff
19:08 <nsh22> Puplic Service Announcement: dont leave your 16 y/0 son at home with the possibility of open cans, he will start playi ng with them and will cut himself
19:08 * nsh22 is in pai
19:08 <nsh22> pain*
19:16 <ct|kyle> nsh22: You must be EMO
19:16 <nsh22> lol
19:17 <nsh22> cuting thumbs ais now emo
19:17 <nsh22> ?
19:17 <ct|kyle> why not LOL
19:17 * nsh22 has a papertowel wraped around his thumb and cant type very well
19:17 <nsh22> IT FUCKING HURTS!
19:19 <nsh22> #$%^&*(*&^%$#@
19:21 <ct|kyle> just take and wrap it in duck tape or electric tape with some cotton/napkins/shop rags inside
19:23 <nsh22> ya im keeping pressure on it
19:23 <nsh22> is there a #firstaid ?
19:23 <nsh22> lol
19:24 <nsh22> nope
19:24 * nsh22 is back (gone 00:32:37)
19:25 <epsy> nsh22, http://www.bitches-irc.net/awaymsgs.html
19:25 <nsh22> errm...
19:27 <epsy> [20:24] * nsh22 is back (gone 00:32:37) [17:31] * nsh22 is back (gone 00:22:47) [17:08] * nsh22 is away: doing something else, and will quite possibly never get your message :) thank you
19:27 <nsh22> Auto-away messages are the spawn of Satan
19:27 <nsh22> lawl
19:27 <nsh22> i get the point
19:27 <epsy> (like the document I linked says, nobody gives a fuck about this)
19:29 <K-Yo> #tea
19:29 <nsh22> ugh, its been bleeding for HALF AN HOUR!!!!
19:29 <armabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (2/32): *, -»|freako
19:32 <K-Yo> #si -v ladle 2
19:32 <K-Yo> #si -v ladle for
19:32 <nsh22> which language is arma based off of?
19:32 <K-Yo> C++
19:32 -!- mkzelda [n=mkzelda@cpe-066-057-232-057.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #armagetron
19:32 <nsh22> ok
19:33 <K-Yo> #ping
19:33 <armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “ladle 2” at the moment, sorry.
19:33 <K-Yo> @ping
19:33 <teabot> pong
19:33 <K-Yo> @si -v tronners l
19:33 <teabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 (78.47.82.211:4536) running 0.2.8_alpha20090117 unix dedicated, url: http://www.crazy-tronners.com, Description: “Ladle Fortress Settings. Brought to you by Crazy Tronners“, Players (0/26):
19:33 <armabot> K-Yo: .:] Twisted Rats [:. Ladle Fortress Server (66.71.250.169:4537) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090118 unix dedicated, url: http://twisted-rats.co.cc, Description: “Fortress server for Ladle 18 (http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Ladle/Challenge_Board), compliments of the Twisted Rats (TR) clan, hosted by Durka“, Players (1/32):
19:33 <armabot> pong
19:34 <K-Yo> #dns 78.47.82.211
19:34 <K-Yo> @dns 78.47.82.211
19:34 <teabot> K-Yo: crazy-tronners.com
19:34 <K-Yo> wtf with bots
19:34 <K-Yo> they're long today
19:34 <armabot> Host not found.
19:35 * nsh22 found some electrical tape :)
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19:38 <nsh22> which file is the actual source code where you patch the sty patch in?
19:39 <ct|kyle> nsh22: Lots of them :P
19:39 <nsh22> aw
19:39 <dlh> #tea
19:39 <nsh22> i have the win_libs crap...
19:39 <ct|kyle> gWinZone.cpp and gWinZone.h is the majority
19:40 * nsh22 is going to the wiki
19:40 <dlh> armabot: wake up
19:40 <dlh> .tea
19:40 <nsh22> #google arma sty patch wiki
19:40 <K-Yo> @si -v pharm
19:40 <teabot> K-Yo: The Server Pharm: Ladle Fortress Tournament Server (66.71.250.74:4535) running 0.2.8-sty+ct_alpha20090129 unix dedicated, url: http://theserverpharm.onlinegamingboard.com, Description: “Ladle Tournament ServerSetup for Ladle 18Setup by compguygene.“, Players (0/32):
19:40 <dlh> @si cafè
19:41 <teabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:41 <epsy> it's café not cafè
19:41 <dlh> oops é
19:41 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: KDE4.1 sucks
19:41 <epsy> KDE sucks
19:41 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:42 <ct|kyle> i like 3.5.*
19:42 <K-Yo> @dns 66.71.250.74
19:42 <teabot> K-Yo: Host not found.
19:42 <K-Yo> #dns 66.71.250.74
19:42 <epsy> wrtlprnft, armabot is being laggy, terribly
19:42 <K-Yo> teeerrrriiibbblllyyyyy
19:42 <nsh22> uberly
19:42 <epsy> K-Yo, no need to do it on both bots -.-
19:43 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
19:43 <K-Yo> epsy, last time I didn't get the same answer
19:43 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has joined #armagetron
19:43 <K-Yo> <K-Yo> #dns 78.47.82.211
19:43 <K-Yo> <K-Yo> @dns 78.47.82.211
19:43 <K-Yo> <teabot> K-Yo: crazy-tronners.com
19:43 <K-Yo> <armabot> Host not found.
19:43 <epsy> @traceip 66.71.250.74
19:43 <epsy> wrtlprnft, ty
19:43 <teabot> http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/66.71.250.74
19:44 <dlh> #ping
19:44 <dlh> indeed
19:44 <epsy> dlh, it's starting
19:44 <epsy> K-Yo, http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/78.47.82.211
19:44 <K-Yo> epsy, I know those :)
19:45 <epsy> well, it works better than these bots
19:45 <K-Yo> epsy, I wanted to check wich one of our servers it was
19:45 <epsy> and also doesnt spam the channel as much
19:45 <K-Yo> erm
19:45 <K-Yo> @traceip xx.xx.xx
19:46 <teabot> http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/xx.xx.xx
19:46 <K-Yo> @dns xx.xx.xx
19:46 <teabot> K-Yo: Host not found.
19:46 <K-Yo> same spam to me
19:46 <epsy> at least in one line you have everything
19:46 <epsy> if you want to be nitpicking on this, well, fuck off
19:47 <K-Yo> =)
19:47 <K-Yo> I know how much to hate to be wrong :P
19:47 <freako> :O
19:47 <K-Yo> hey freako
19:48 -!- emphasis [n=rolf@232-187-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
19:48 <freako> its hard to get 5 opponents >.<
19:48 <Lizmatic> freako from the ARROW clan!
19:49 <freako> :)
19:49 <Lizmatic> (what a name xD)
19:49 <armabot> pong
19:49 <K-Yo> @tea
19:49 <teabot> K-Yo: Fortress Café: Players (0/32):
19:49 <K-Yo> @si ladle
19:49 <teabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2: Players (1/26): Stasis
19:49 <freako> ok,, the name sucks
19:50 <ct|kyle> 5 minutes and 10 second lag on armabot
19:50 <freako> but the tag PWNS! :P
19:50 <K-Yo> ct|kyle, indeed xD
19:50 <epsy> NO
19:50 <epsy> ID's better
19:51 <epsy> -=°(ID}{
19:51 <epsy> or whatever it was
19:51 -!- armabot [n=armabot@83.243.117.49.dynamic.cablesurf.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
19:51 <epsy> but wait, it's the BEST!
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19:51 <freako> this is why I love epsy :)
19:52 <freako> his enthusiasm :P
19:52 <epsy> my enthusiasm about crap
19:53 <nsh22> ok while my thumb heals, : sty patching question:
19:53 <epsy> "is it needed?" "no, it is disrecommended"
19:53 <nsh22> i have bazar up and cd into the right directory, now do i just run ./bootstrap.sh?
19:54 <epsy> yes
19:54 <epsy> or read INSTALL
19:54 <epsy> perhaps..
19:54 * freako doesnt want the crap vs logic / fun vs work discussion again :)
19:54 <epsy> wtf is that discussion about?
19:54 -!- mkzelda [n=mkzelda@cpe-066-057-232-057.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)]
19:54 <nsh22> i cant find install...
19:55 <epsy> stupid ark is stupid
19:55 * epsy goes on and fires up file-roller
19:56 <nsh22> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Help:Editingscript has nothin in it....
19:57 <nsh22> and bootstrap.sh wont run....
19:58 <nsh22> ugh, i should go shovel the drive way
19:58 <nsh22> IM AWAY but im not /away just for epsy
19:58 <epsy> you can be /away
19:58 <epsy> just don't output messages each time
19:59 * freako says hi to nsh22 who is away
19:59 <nsh22> it does i automatically through my client
19:59 * nsh22 say hi to freako
19:59 <epsy> nsh22, you should turn that off
20:00 <Lizmatic> that tag sucks as well freako xD
20:00 <epsy> nsh22, wtf is <http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Help:Editingscript> meant to be?
20:00 <Lizmatic> best tag ever ??????????????????
20:00 <Lizmatic> "D
20:01 <epsy> best tag ever was mkzelda's
20:01 <epsy> because none can be more l33t than it
20:01 <freako> best tag ----> [??]
20:01 <epsy> because it uses all the 15 characters
20:02 <Lizmatic> the ugliest tag has to be ww's
20:02 <epsy> and that makes it l33t
20:02 <freako> worst tag is the one from MBC i guess :/
20:02 <freako> just MBC- not even something to decorate it
20:03 <Lizmatic> isnt it |MBC|
20:03 <epsy> actually not that ugly
20:03 <freako> not in the early stages, i though
20:04 <freako> <<wir>> <--- ugly one 2 :)
20:04 <epsy> it was <<WiR>>
20:04 <epsy> let's see if he can even remember the clantag I use
20:04 <epsy> freako, what clantag do I use?
20:05 <freako> ¦×¦ ... :/
20:05 <epsy> woot
20:06 <freako> #ls sta
20:08 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: who uses KDE 4.1?
20:08 <armabot> freako: 808 STATE seems to be on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. right now.
20:08 <freako> lol...
20:08 <freako> #ls stas
20:09 <epsy> @ls stas
20:09 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you said it was usable at 4.1, but it is not (just tried it)
20:09 <teabot> epsy: Stasis seems to be on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 right now.
20:09 <armabot> freako: Stasis seems to be on Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2 right now.
20:10 <freako> damned,, my browsers says its empty -_-
20:10 <freako> to late
20:10 <freako> btw epsy,, my ip changed for some odd reason
20:10 <freako> if u traceroute my ip, u end up in a place aboout 200km from my home :O
20:10 <epsy> @dns freako
20:10 <teabot> epsy: Host not found.
20:11 <epsy> @whois freako
20:11 <teabot> epsy: cp37606-b.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (i=54188e74@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4c37e53e034d87fa) has been on server irc.freenode.net since 09:32 AM, January 30, 2009 (idle for 18 seconds) and is on #armagetron.
20:11 <epsy> @dns cp37606-b.tilbu1.nb.home.nl
20:11 <teabot> epsy: 84.24.142.116
20:11 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it is
20:11 <epsy> well, it's easier to not mixup with izual
20:11 <luke-jr> why did you just try KDE 4.1 when it's obsolete?
20:12 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: i did not feel like using layman
20:13 <luke-jr> why did you just try KDE 4.1 when it's obsolete?
20:13 <freako> very strange, that my ip is suddenly fucked :/
20:13 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: you said it was useable
20:14 <dlh> #tea
20:14 <armabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (1/32): free kill
20:15 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: it is
20:16 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: it was buggy and a lot of stuff did not work
20:17 <nsh22> epsy: that link is on the sty wiki and it says to vo there for suoemthing
20:17 * nsh22 is back
20:17 <epsy> for something?
20:18 <epsy> [21:17] * nsh22 is back
20:18 <epsy> go to hellplz
20:18 <nsh22> On FreeBSD, you may need to modify the bootstrap.sh http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php/Help:Editingscript to point to the location of the automake tools
20:19 -!- freako [i=54188e74@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4c37e53e034d87fa] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"]
20:21 <nsh22> what progran so i use to open bootstrap.sh
20:22 <epsy> er, windows?
20:22 -!- freako [n=freako@64.55.144.15] has joined #armagetron
20:22 <freako> epsy: can u trace my ip again?
20:23 <epsy> @aawikis windows developement
20:23 <teabot> epsy: no results for: windows developement site:wiki.armagetronad.net
20:23 <epsy> nsh22, wll, spell that word correctly and you have it
20:23 <epsy> [21:22] * freako [n=freako@64.55.144.15] a rejoint #armagetron
20:23 <freako> ffs
20:24 <nsh22> ?
20:24 <nsh22> ./bootstrap.sh?
20:24 <epsy> [21:23] <epsy>: @aawikis windows developement
20:24 <nsh22> ah
20:24 <freako> omg, it only got worse...
20:25 <freako> my ip adress, says that im living in the US ....
20:25 <epsy> that's not your IP address
20:25 <epsy> and it's pointing in a very specific place in the US, I guess :)
20:26 * freako hopes iphotspot is fucking him again
20:26 <nsh22> so i should be using code::blocks?
20:26 * freako hoped he finally removed it 100%
20:27 <epsy> HAHAHAHAHA
20:27 <epsy> nsh22, probably
20:27 <freako> blah atleast i can show u, i can proxify arma now :)
20:27 <freako> i guess >.<
20:27 <epsy> yeah, show me your great failures again
20:27 <freako> ur server link please?
20:27 <freako> epsy.teamkilled.net?
20:28 <epsy> that's my router
20:28 <freako> got it bookmarked from the last time :)
20:29 <nsh22> so what do i do wit the code::blocks tar file
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20:30 <epsy> I think you didn't download windows binaries :)
20:30 <nsh22> huh?
20:31 <epsy> usually, windows binaries don't come up within tar.bz2 archives
20:31 <nsh22> for codeblockes?
20:32 <epsy> for pretty much any software
20:32 <freako> it doesnt show as a failure atm >.<
20:32 <nsh22> theres like 50 codeblock fliles
20:32 <nsh22> http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5358
20:32 <epsy> http://www.codeblocks.org/
20:32 <epsy> start there
20:32 <nsh22> o-o
20:32 <epsy> freako, well I wonder what you are connected to
20:33 * freako knows where he is connected 2
20:33 <nsh22> do i download the one with ming?
20:36 <epsy> yes
20:38 <nsh22> does the trunk build in windows?
20:38 <epsy> it should
20:38 <nsh22> in the wiki it says it doesnt.. oh well
20:38 <epsy> well, it's a content-free wiki
20:40 * nsh22 is confused
20:40 <nsh22> where is win32?
20:41 <nsh22> apperently i need to run it
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20:44 <epsy> link?
20:45 <nsh22> to hwat, the page that says i need to run it?
20:45 <nsh22> http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Windows_Development
20:45 <epsy> yes
20:46 <epsy> looks like it is under winlibs
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20:48 <freako> epsy: http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot73ce0.png - http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot74sh6.png
20:48 <epsy> great
20:48 <epsy> now you made me loose my tab for this stupid shit
20:52 <nsh22> i cant find win32
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20:53 <freako5> :)
20:54 <nsh22> sigh
20:54 <nsh22> wait, do i need to get it through svn?
20:55 <freako7> nsh22, firefox crashes and takes a while to start again while compiling, sorry
20:55 <freako7> no, it's in bzr too
20:55 <freako7> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~armagetronad-dev/armagetronad/trunk-winlibs-work/files
20:55 <nsh22> kthx
20:56 <nsh22> so ....
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20:57 <nsh22> i THINK i got it
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20:58 <epsy> gosh
20:58 <epsy> why don't you just use "freako" ??
20:59 <Lizmatic> this is confusing
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20:59 <nsh22> wtfis my launchpad login....
20:59 <freako6> meep mee
21:02 <freako5> aks guru the same question then :)
21:02 <nsh22> ok, so i need a launchpad id to get the files?
21:02 <freako5> I have a good reason for it...
21:03 <wrtlprnft> nsh22: have you tried nsh{01..99} yet?
21:03 <nsh22> i get it nvm
21:03 <nsh22> got*
21:05 <nsh22> ughvddhfvdhkfbgvjxhov7tgseliybor
21:05 <nsh22> it says to open armagetonad.workspace
21:05 <wrtlprnft> is that your username or your password?
21:05 <nsh22> bvut there is none
21:05 <nsh22> i got the files
21:05 <nsh22> i didnt need to id after all
21:05 <wrtlprnft> it's under win32/codeblocks
21:06 <nsh22> i know
21:06 <wrtlprnft> and it IS there.
21:06 <nsh22> ffs, iits not supposed to be in trunk-winlibs-work is it?
21:06 <wrtlprnft> it should be in trunk-armagetronad-work
21:07 <nsh22> epsy, u gave me the wrong link fyi
21:07 <nsh22> ty wrtl
21:07 <wrtlprnft> you need both
21:07 <nsh22> 0.0
21:09 <nsh22> i cant find a trunk-armagetron-work branch on launchpad
21:09 <epsy> armagetronad ***
21:10 <nsh22> ew, its not there
21:10 <nsh22> w/e*
21:10 <nsh22> o h wait
21:11 <nsh22> nvm
21:11 <nsh22> im bazaring (or w/e)) the entire armagetronad branch fo find it myself
21:12 <epsy> um
21:12 <nsh22> now i found it
21:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: usable != bug-free
21:12 <nsh22> wewt
21:12 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: retard
21:12 <epsy> they are entirely separate
21:13 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: well in that case 4.0 was useable
21:13 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: no it wasn't
21:13 <luke-jr> 4.0 lacked PIM altogether
21:13 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: just about as buggy as that was
21:14 <epsy> I love how you guys are trolling about HOW kde sucks
21:14 <nsh22> where is build_codeblocks?
21:15 <nsh22> wewt im acutally building
21:16 <nsh22> ||=== Build finished: 46 errors, 0 warnings ===|
21:16 <nsh22> normal?
21:16 <freako5> nsh22: windows building is a pain in the ass
21:16 <nsh22> i see/feel that
21:18 <nsh22> ok, wher so i set the path for python?
21:18 <armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r860 Restored old message streaming. Left to do: descriptor bendi...
21:20 <epsy> z-man, I forgot to ask you, can the message format be changed at runtime?
21:22 * ct|kyle is really getting sick of airplanes shutting off engines over my house
21:22 <nsh22> why do they do that might i ask?
21:22 <nsh22> they are not suposed to shut off
21:23 <ct|kyle> well slowing down to get into airport (10 miles away)
21:23 <nsh22> ah
21:24 <ct|kyle> but it sounds like they are going to crash into the house
21:24 <guru3> surprise!
21:24 * nsh22 is scared of suprises
21:25 <nsh22> ok, lets try building again
21:26 <nsh22> still 46errors
21:26 <ct|kyle> I figured out you april fools this year
21:26 <nsh22> AND MY THUMB IS STILL FUKCKING BLEEDING!!!!!1
21:26 <wrtlprnft> so you build a new house every time an airplane crashes into it?
21:27 <nsh22> 3 1/2 hours after the fact
21:27 <ct|kyle> nsh22: looks like you need to go get stiches
21:27 <nsh22> ct|kyle: i think so
21:27 <ct|kyle> nsh22: or find a way to move more platelets into finger :P
21:27 <nsh22> no ill just slowly bleed out through my thumb
21:27 <nsh22> it will surely be fun
21:29 <nsh22> im glad my dad has tonns of electrical tape around
21:29 <ct|kyle> lol
21:29 <nsh22> i could mummify myself in electrical tape
21:29 <ct|kyle> i've only used that 1 or 2 times
21:29 <nsh22> and he isnt even ana electritian
21:29 <ct|kyle> well my finger
21:30 <nsh22> HVAC ftw/l
21:30 <ct|kyle> the best was ducktape and a semi-used shop rag
21:30 <nsh22> haha
21:30 <z-man> epsy: in theory, I think yes. protobuf has the capability to add new message types yourself. I don't grok that part, however.
21:31 <nsh22> im using paper towel and e-tape
21:31 <nsh22> and it works,except it sticks and rips it open when i take it off to check if its still bleeding
21:31 <ct|kyle> that is about what the shop rag was, a little softer
21:31 <nsh22> ?me has an idea
21:31 * nsh22 has an idea
21:32 <ct|kyle> keep it wrapped for an halg hour before checking
21:32 <freako5> install linux? :p
21:32 <ct|kyle> half*
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21:35 <epsy> #op armabot
21:35 <nsh22> solution: dettol (6 years past date but oh well...)cream, then papertowel, then e-tape
21:35 <epsy> O_o
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21:37 <nsh22> all this because of me playing with a can lol
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21:38 <epsy> time to fix that other bug
21:38 <nsh22> the baby one?^^
21:38 * epsy fixes BabyBug
21:38 * ct|kyle is much happier on KDE3.5.9
21:38 <BabyBug> I'm not a bug!
21:38 <nsh22> lol
21:38 <BabyBug> and I'm not a baby!
21:38 <nsh22> sure your not ^^
21:39 <epsy> she is a BABYBUG
21:39 <nsh22> she is a larvae
21:39 <epsy> reminds me about legit :P
21:39 <ct|kyle> i like to squash that type
21:39 <nsh22> lol
21:39 <epsy> hrm, I would really like to get to play penumbra :<
21:39 <nsh22> play what?
21:40 <epsy> will using capital letters help?
21:40 <nsh22> which bot it it on
21:40 <nsh22> and yes it will
21:40 <nsh22> @Penumbra
21:41 <epsy> HRM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET TO PLAY PENUMBRA :<
21:41 <nsh22> oh i thought you meant on a bot
21:41 <nsh22> lol
21:42 <epsy> I HATE ircbot games
21:42 <epsy> more than flash or java or python games
21:42 <nsh22> any1 up for yandere?
21:43 <nsh22> !yandere
21:43 <YandereBot> The Worm Game is starting in 60 seconds! Please type "!join" to join.
21:43 <epsy> :-|
21:43 <epsy> superspambot is here?
21:43 <ct|kyle> !part
21:43 <YandereBot> ct|kyle: You don't have permission to do that.
21:43 <epsy> if 6 people want it out, I kick it
21:43 <epsy> so that's 2
21:44 <YandereBot> We don't have enough players yet. We need at least 4 players to start a game. I'll wait for another 60 seconds. Please type "!join" to join.
21:44 <nsh22> play
21:44 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: say "I want it out"
21:44 <nsh22> !yandere end
21:44 <YandereBot> The Worm Game game has been forced to end.
21:44 <nsh22> happy?
21:44 <epsy> yes
21:44 <ct|kyle> no
21:44 <ct|kyle> crappy bot still here
21:44 <epsy> play in PM or on an IRCBOTGaming channel
21:44 <BabyBug> #kick YandereBot just kick it anyway?
21:44 <nsh22> its awesome
21:44 <BabyBug> armabot broke?
21:45 <epsy> BabyBug, you gotta have to wait until armabot realises what's happening :<
21:45 <ct|kyle> #ping
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21:45 <@armabot> pong
21:46 <wrtlprnft> meh, let her be. Currently updating my system, that's why it's a little slow
21:46 <BabyBug> armabot is a he!
21:46 <epsy> wrtlprnft sounds like the author of phenny :P
21:47 <ct|kyle> so that explains the 5 minutes delays
21:47 <ct|kyle> BabyBug: she*
21:47 <epsy> anyone wants to play a tremulous game?
21:48 <nsh22> me
21:48 <epsy> 1v1 ? xD
21:48 <nsh22> sure
21:48 <wrtlprnft> ct|kyle: you're exaggerating *just* a little
21:48 <epsy> that would suck
21:49 <nsh22> lol
21:49 <ct|kyle> wrtlprnft: earlyer it was
21:49 <epsy> nsh22, got nexuiz?
21:50 <ct|kyle> (13:44:02) dlh: #ping
21:50 <ct|kyle> (13:49:14) armabot: pong
21:50 <nsh22> got what?
21:50 <wrtlprnft> anyone up for sauerbraten?
21:50 <nsh22> me
21:50 * epsy feels like playing a camping rifle arena :P
21:50 <epsy> who hosts?
21:50 <wrtlprnft> meh, let me boot up first
21:50 <epsy> heh
21:50 <wrtlprnft> and did i mention that i suck at egoshooters?
21:50 <nsh22> whats it called?
21:51 <epsy> it being..what?
21:51 <epsy> $ pacman -S sauerbraten
21:51 <epsy> Cibles (1): sauerbraten-2008_06_20_ctf_edition-1
21:51 <epsy> ctf edition? O_o
21:51 <wrtlprnft> that's ok
21:52 * nsh22 us confused and wants to play
21:52 <epsy> 4 mins downloading :o
21:52 <wrtlprnft> i really like that game
21:52 <epsy> does it has tricky movement stuff?
21:52 <epsy> have *
21:53 <wrtlprnft> tricky movement?
21:53 <wrtlprnft> no idea
21:53 <epsy> like in quake, or warsow
21:53 <wrtlprnft> but the graphics are really nice, heh
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21:53 <epsy> like, strafe-jumping and such
21:53 <wrtlprnft> compared to nexuiz and all that
21:53 <epsy> yeah
21:53 <wrtlprnft> err, you can do that
21:53 <epsy> :))
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21:57 <wrtlprnft> plus it's got the nicest menus ever, if you switch of 2d mode
21:58 <wrtlprnft> *off
21:58 <nsh22> wow 1117 ping on my server
21:59 <nsh22> and i deleted the map thats doing it too
22:01 <epsy> haha these funky menus
22:01 <epsy> what's they key for console?
22:01 <wrtlprnft> chat with / i think
22:01 <wrtlprnft> ie t
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22:05 <epsy> and, what are the magical commands to have it run decently on intel? :<
22:06 <wrtlprnft> err, there's the menu, maybe if you switch everything off
22:10 <epsy> mm, I still prefer nex to it, hehe
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22:11 <ct|kyle> nsh22: you should tell luke-jr to stop selling and uploading pictures of his wife
22:11 <epsy> nsh22, boo
22:18 <ct|kyle> actually nsh22 maybe if you use linux instead of BSOS (windows) everything will just work
22:18 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: Sorry about that one :P
22:18 <nsh22> what?
22:18 <epsy> nsh22, where are you?
22:18 <ct|kyle> nsh22: use linux to play tron, ping problem goes away
22:19 <nsh22> i dont have linux
22:19 <epsy> he's trying to convince you to get it
22:19 <nsh22> lol
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22:20 <ct|kyle> i always found better net on linux than windows
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22:20 <epsy> net support in windows is a hack
22:20 <epsy> don't expect it to be working greatly
22:20 <nsh22> huh?
22:21 <nsh22> i may put linux on my protable hard drive
22:21 <nsh22> might patition it
22:21 <ct|kyle> ya
22:21 <nsh22> partition*
22:21 <ct|kyle> that is what K-Yo did a while back
22:21 <nsh22> brb
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22:22 <Flex> oops
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22:37 <freako5> even the nick changes, take ages :/
22:37 <nsh22> back
22:45 <freako5> Someone in for some fort?
22:45 <freako6> no!
22:45 <nsh22> me
22:45 <nsh22> where?
22:45 <freako6> o still have this name
22:46 -!- freako6 is now known as Lizmatic
22:46 <Lizmatic> :x
22:46 <freako5> !
22:46 <freako5> CT 2 :)
22:46 <nsh22> ok
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23:10 <Lucifer> #weather 78729
23:11 -!- mode/#armagetron [+o armabot] by ChanServ
23:11 <@armabot> Lucifer: The current temperature in Anderson Mill / Parmer, Austin, Texas is 68.0°F (4:10 PM CST on January 30, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: 17.6°F. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028.3 hPa (Steady).
23:17 <ct|kyle> #weather 46814
23:18 <@armabot> ct|kyle: The current temperature in Tanbark, Fort Wayne, Indiana is 14.7°F (5:17 PM EST on January 30, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 5.0°F. Windchill: 5.0°F. Pressure: 30.12 in 1019.9 hPa (Rising).
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23:37 <nsh22> hey hey
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23:49 <nsh22> HAHA thats the first timeits actually allowed me to read taht
23:50 <freako5> lol?
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Log from 2009-01-31:
--- Day changed Sat Jan 31 2009
00:00 <nsh22> wewt just finished varibables tutorial, now onto contants.. 0.o
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00:07 <SoBeiT> Good evening ladies
00:08 <nsh22> ...
00:08 <SoBeiT> #ls ky13
00:08 <SoBeiT> what you dotting neal?
00:08 <nsh22> nothing....
00:08 <nsh22> ...
00:08 <nsh22> lol
00:08 <nsh22> wats up
00:08 <SoBeiT> ct|kyle: Knock Knock
00:09 <ct|kyle> SoBeiT: Who's there
00:09 * SoBeiT blows kyles house down!
00:09 <ct|kyle> SoBeiT: blows kyles house down! who?
00:09 <ct|kyle> :P
00:09 <SoBeiT> ct|kyle: Hey man. I am going to make a sumo server with moving DZ's. What is the command for that? I have sty+ct servers
00:09 <SoBeiT> lol @ u
00:10 <ct|kyle> SPAWN_ZONE, but it must be scripted again since this can't be called until there is a grid
00:10 <SoBeiT> What do you mean? oO
00:11 <SoBeiT> Oh thats gay
00:11 <SoBeiT> ct|kyle: What if there was a map with a dz in it already? Or two? That command wouldn't make them move
00:12 <ct|kyle> nope
00:12 * SoBeiT is sad
00:12 <ct|kyle> that is an easy script
00:12 <nsh22> hey my thumb stopped bleeding XD yay
00:12 <SoBeiT> ct|kyle: Even for a busy man like you? ;)
00:12 <ct|kyle> i basically have it
00:13 <SoBeiT> Well, I am a nub when it comes to installing scripts. How hard is it going to be to include a script into a server hosted on a VPS?
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00:13 <animuson> k so i installed hoop's race timer patch manually and set race_timer_enabled to 1
00:13 <animuson> but it doesnt work
00:13 <animuson> :-/
00:14 <armabot> SoBeiT: ct¤ky13 has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress. 4 hours 0 minutes ago.
00:14 <SoBeiT> animuson: Link to hoops patch?
00:14 <animuson> http://hoop.altervista.org/patches/race_timer_20080814_1749.patch
00:14 <SoBeiT> Thanks for the late response armabot
00:14 <ct|kyle> that's right LOL i forgot that that one is really old and does not work very well
00:15 <animuson> very well? it doesnt work at all :P
00:15 <ct|kyle> woot we are up to 6 minute lag on armabot see wrtlprnft :P
00:15 <SoBeiT> It would be great if it didn't link me to this page: http://it.altervista.org/
00:16 <SoBeiT> And if I understood that language xD
00:16 <animuson> ?
00:16 <ct|kyle> animuson: that is a really old one, i remember i just created a new one with the aid of that one
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00:16 <animuson> where is yours?
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00:17 <ct|kyle> animuson: somewhere on my PC with a few other hacks, but you probably would not want mine, it just prints the time to ladderlog
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00:17 <animuson> it doesnt do the countdown?
00:17 <ct|kyle> nope
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00:17 <ct|kyle> animuson: i don't even think the countdown is is the patch you used
00:18 <animuson> well it doesnt print the race time either :-/
00:18 <ct|kyle> ya LOL
00:19 <animuson> :-/
00:20 <ct|kyle> animuson: I'll see if i can't find the file hoop sent me in the next day or 2, it should have the countdown in it
00:20 <animuson> this would be a lot easier if hoop actually got on every once in a while
00:20 <SoBeiT> ct|kyle: What other hacks do you have?
00:20 <ct|kyle> SoBeiT: maybe later tonight i'll strip the SPAWN_ZONE stuff out of one of my scripts and give it to you
00:21 <SoBeiT> ct|kyle: Don't bother. Looks like too much work.
00:21 <SoBeiT> ct|kyle: Thanks though ;)
00:21 <ct|kyle> SoBeiT: not really http://crazy-tronners.com/wiki/index.php/Running_a_Server
00:23 <SoBeiT> ct|kyle: Maybe it would be nice if I understood php more ;)
00:23 <SoBeiT> Not to mention unix commands
00:23 <animuson> i wish i knew how to code the timer for arma
00:23 <ct|kyle> bash :P
00:24 <animuson> did hoop send u the actual timer he uses?
00:25 <ct|kyle> animuson: i think so
00:26 <animuson> hope u find it then :P
00:27 <ct|kyle> animuson: nope i don't,
00:27 <ct|kyle> i gtg
00:27 <animuson> bye
00:27 <nsh22> cu
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00:31 <nsh22> luke-jr: umm, one ofmy maps makes my comp/client go laggy, and i took it out of rmaps, but it continues to play. could you see (when you get a chance)to see hwere i fucked up?
00:35 * nsh22 has thought of a semi humorous pun on micosoft
00:35 <nsh22> ms is only 1 letter away from pms
00:36 <animuson> a girl in my class has the initials pms
00:36 <nsh22> HAHAH that would suck
00:37 <animuson> does anyone know how to disable the "end round" when a winzone is hit?
00:38 <freako5> make it a deathzone :P
00:38 <nsh22> i was wondering that as well
00:38 <nsh22> oh
00:38 <freako5> solves everything
00:48 <animuson> how do i shut off the "Remote admin command by user@forums: whatever" thing?
00:48 <nsh22> user_level 16 or w/e
00:48 <animuson> no whenever u use a /admin command it prints that out
00:48 <animuson> its really annoying
00:48 <nsh22> ok
00:49 <nsh22> ii dont kno if thats possible
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00:49 <BabyBug> everything's possible
00:49 <nsh22> yes master
00:49 <nsh22> lol
00:49 <nsh22> jk
00:50 <nsh22> well, how do you get rid of it then?
00:50 <BabyBug> Mistress* not master
00:51 <nsh22> yes mistress.. sry mistress, plz dont punish me mnistress, no mistress no!
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00:52 <BabyBug> Secondly, i have no idea. But technically anything's possible and the thing is open source :P (but there must be some config setting somewhere)
00:52 <BabyBug> s/and/as/
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01:10 <madmax> #q
01:11 <@armabot> madmax: Quote #57: "* epsy runs away from MrBougo | <epsy> i'm gonna take a shower brb | * MrBougo follows epsy *" (added by MrBougo at 01:38 PM, August 12, 2007)
01:11 <Flex> lol....
01:11 <nsh22> lol
01:12 <nsh22> #q
01:12 <madmax> #quote add Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber..
01:12 <Flex> haha
01:12 <Flex> omg
01:12 <madmax> #eliza tell your master to give you more juice!
01:12 <nsh22> haha
01:13 <madmax> Flex: :D
01:13 <@armabot> nsh22: Quote #63: "GodTodd: definition of great : agrees with luke-jr's views" (added by ct|kyle at 04:27 AM, November 17, 2007)
01:14 <nsh22> haha
01:14 <@armabot> madmax: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:14 <@armabot> madmax: Why do you say tell my master to give me more juice?
01:14 <madmax> damn it!
01:14 <Flex> hah
01:14 <Flex> pwned
01:15 <Flex> it's not like everyone knows exactly how rubber works..
01:15 <madmax> #quote add Flex: you start your grind at the zone, by the time you get to the split it's weak, not to mention the guy is burning the same rubber..
01:15 <@armabot> madmax: The operation succeeded. Quote #88 added.
01:15 <madmax> :-)
01:15 <nsh22> lawl
01:16 <Flex> i think i have something for you too madmax :)
01:16 <madmax> come on flex, the wall doesn't move during the grind procedure :p
01:16 <madmax> as long as you have proof
01:17 <freako5> haha :)
01:17 <freako5> still disussing :P
01:17 <madmax> I was struggling with armabot's slowness :-/
01:18 <Flex> #q remove 88
01:18 <Flex> :p
01:18 <@armabot> Flex: Quote #60: "<luke-jr> fanatics are good" (added by epsy at 10:27 AM, September 23, 2007)
01:19 <freako5> come on people :P let the armabot do it's nap
01:19 <madmax> aw don't be like that
01:19 * freako5 follows the lead
01:19 <nsh22> it naps for 20 minsafter we tell it to do something so no
01:19 <freako5> haha :P
01:19 <Flex> lol, fine
01:20 <freako5> g2g, gn all (have fun with armabot!)
01:20 <madmax> gnight
01:20 <freako5> #ping
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01:20 <nsh22> nighty night
01:21 <@armabot> pong
01:21 <madmax> lol
01:21 <nsh22> 1 minute ping
01:21 <nsh22> thats what? howmany ms?
01:21 <madmax> lasted 1:30 on the first #q
01:22 <nsh22> lemme put my bot on my other channel, itd be quicker than arambot
01:22 <nsh22> i i do it manually
01:22 <madmax> heh not the network, wrtl said his box was under high load
01:23 * nsh22 could make a box joke but abstains
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01:31 <nsh22> #weather innisfil
01:32 <@armabot> nsh22: The current temperature in Innisfil, Innisfil, Ontario is 15.4°F (7:31 PM EST on January 30, 2009). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -0.4°F. Windchill: 6.8°F. Pressure: 28.91 in 978.9 hPa (Falling).
01:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r862 Surrogate stream messages now copy the messageID from their ... || [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r861 Added framework to restore compatibility....
01:47 <nsh22> ok in c++ (according to the left to right rule) in (b=7 , a=b), b will equal 7, always (unless modified elsewhere) but 7 wil not alway mean a?
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02:24 <BabyBug> #ping
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02:25 <SoBeiT> \o/
02:25 <@armabot> pong
02:25 <BabyBug> Shoo!
02:25 <SoBeiT> BEER PONG?!
02:25 <SoBeiT> I LOVE THAT GAME!
02:25 <SoBeiT> thanks for the reminder armabot
02:25 <SoBeiT> :>
02:25 <SoBeiT> BabyBug: Salut!
02:26 <SoBeiT> wrtlprnft: Are you ever here?
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02:26 <BabyBug> #seen wrtlprnft
02:26 <@armabot> BabyBug: wrtlprnft was last seen in #armagetron 4 hours, 19 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <wrtlprnft> err, there's the menu, maybe if you switch everything off
02:26 <BabyBug> =)
02:26 <SoBeiT> Thanks =)
02:28 <SoBeiT> Warez Luke
02:28 <SoBeiT> nvm pz out homies, gotta run
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02:36 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r863 Also copying message ID in the other direction. Fixes compat...
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03:07 <nsh22> well, that was an interesting wikipedia article on the slaughter koshering of meat for jewish consumption
03:07 <nsh22> anyways, good night all
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03:10 <@armabot> lpbugs: [323455] Non-ASCII paste broken on Mac OS X || [323452] Text can overlap previous line
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04:04 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: hey, how can I set the default user level? :/
04:05 <luke-jr> #armaconfig access
04:05 <@armabot> luke-jr: Sorry, no matches :S
04:05 <luke-jr> #armaconfig level
04:05 <@armabot> luke-jr: RECORDING_DEBUGLEVEL: Level of additonal information in recording file. (default: 0)
04:05 <luke-jr> teabot: armaconfig level
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04:41 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r818 Fix non-ascii pastes on Mac OS X. Fixes bug #323455....
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04:55 <ct|kyle> #cfg2 access
04:55 <@armabot> ct|kyle: ACCESS_LEVEL: Changes the access level of a configuration item to make it available to lower ranked users || ACCESS_LEVEL_ADMIN: Minimal access level for /admin command. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT: Minimal access level for chatting. || ACCESS_LEVEL_CHAT_TIMEOUT: Time in seconds between public announcements that someone wants to chat, but can't. Set to 0 to disable the public warnings. || (7 more messages)
04:56 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I don't think it's possible :/
04:57 <ct|kyle> luke-jr: what do you mean by default
04:57 <luke-jr> ct|kyle: I want anyone who authenticates to be promoted to Admin
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05:33 <smoothice> #whoareyou
05:33 <@armabot> smoothice: What do you think?
05:33 <smoothice> #whoareyou armabot
05:33 <@armabot> smoothice: What do you think?
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05:42 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.3-armagetronad-sty] r806 Merge from trunk || [armagetronad-old-glancing] r752 Merge with trunk...
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05:49 <luke-jr> smoothice: freeciv?
05:50 <smoothice> luke-jr: no thank you
06:09 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8924 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/ui/uMenu.cpp src/ui/uMenu.h): Daniel Lee Harple: Fix non-ascii pastes on Mac OS X. Fixes bug #323455.
06:15 <smoothice> Lucifer: How do I set TEAMS_MAX within C++????
06:15 <smoothice> Lucifer: I tried maxTeams = 0;, multiPlayer.maxTeams = 0;
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06:46 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1004 Began work on MATCH_START_PVP
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10:31 <wrtlprnft> #later tell SoBeiT are YOU ever here?
10:31 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: The operation succeeded.
10:32 <wrtlprnft> anyways, the update is complete, everything should be just as slow as usual now
10:32 * BabyBug tickles wrtlprnft
10:33 * wrtlprnft squashes BabyBug
10:33 <wrtlprnft> after putting it on launchpad first, of course
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14:33 <epsy> lp says that I will commit r820 in 58 minutes
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15:20 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8926 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/engine/ePlayer.cpp): epsy: Players have names again in their own hybrid-hosted games.
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15:50 <PinkTomato> anyone elses google gone annyoying?
15:50 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: xfroggy just told me something about it
15:51 <PinkTomato> Ah, so it's not just me then :), copying and pasting URLs is annyoying.
15:52 <madmax> haha they broke it
15:53 <luke-jr> …
15:55 <madmax> let's take bets on how many get fired
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15:57 <ct|kyle> #google does it work?
15:57 <@armabot> ct|kyle: Search took 0.20 seconds: Does It Work ? - msnbc.com: <http://doesitwork.msnbc.msn.com/>; The Official KFVS12 and Heartland News Web Site | Does it Work ...: <http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/category.asp?C=12373>; DOES IT WORK | WVEC.com | News for Hampton Roads, Virginia: <http://www.wvec.com/news/diw/index.html>; HowStuffWorks - Learn How Everything Works!: (2 more messages)
15:57 <luke-jr> http://www.google.fi/search?hl=en&q=windows&btnG=Search
15:59 <ct|kyle> all of those would beharmful
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16:13 <@armabot> armacommits: [trunk-armagetronad-work] r820 Players have names again in their own hybrid-hosted games....
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16:33 <smoothice> Has anyone seen z-man?
16:33 <nsh22> #ls z-man
16:33 <@armabot> nsh22: timed out
16:33 <ct|kyle> #seen z-man
16:33 <nsh22> ....
16:33 <@armabot> ct|kyle: z-man was last seen in #armagetron 19 hours, 2 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <z-man> epsy: in theory, I think yes. protobuf has the capability to add new message types yourself. I don't grok that part, however.
16:33 <smoothice> aww
16:33 <smoothice> k
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16:40 <epsy> smoothice, ?
16:40 <nsh22> epsy, you dont think there will ever be ramps?
16:40 <epsy> smoothice, don't ask to ask, just ask (that should be in topic)
16:40 <epsy> nsh22, maybe
16:40 <nsh22> lol im making a branch for 0.3 ramps
16:41 <epsy> hm
16:41 <Concord> neal: http://www.16x16.org/games/ccw/
16:41 <epsy> how are you planning to integrate them with maps?
16:41 <epsy> I remember playing a d tron like Concord suggested
16:41 <nsh22> hmmm
16:41 <epsy> 3d *
16:42 <smoothice> epsy: how do I set TEAMS_MAX from within C++
16:42 <epsy> that's not the thing with ramps, tho
16:42 <nsh22> well cosidering i know nothing of c++...
16:42 <smoothice> epsy: I've tried maxTeams = 10; multiPlayer.maxTeams = 10;
16:42 <nsh22> Concord: what is that?
16:42 <epsy> are you sure you're not in SP?
16:42 <epsy> nsh22, 3D tron
16:42 <epsy> nsh22, or 6DoF, if you prefer
16:44 <smoothice> epsy: I searched the entire source and only found static tConfItem<int> mp_tmax ("TEAMS_MAX", multiPlayer.maxTeams);
16:45 <epsy> look for SP_TEAMS_MAX
16:45 <smoothice> but I don't want SP
16:45 <smoothice> I want TEAMS_MAX
16:45 * madmax wonders why 'max -fullword' doesn't work
16:45 <smoothice> epsy: same thing... static tConfItem<int> sp_tmax ("SP_TEAMS_MAX", singlePlayer.maxTeams);
16:46 <epsy> so non-SP ?
16:46 <smoothice> yes]
16:46 <epsy> use multiPlayer.maxTeams then
16:46 <smoothice> so
16:46 <smoothice> mutliPlayer.maxTeams = 0;
16:46 <smoothice> ????
16:46 <epsy> huh??
16:46 <smoothice> I'm Trying To Set TEAMS_MAX From Within C++ to 10
16:46 <epsy> 0 teams??
16:47 <smoothice> no
16:47 <smoothice> grrr
16:47 <smoothice> fine
16:47 <smoothice> 54
16:47 <smoothice> 5
16:47 <smoothice> teamas
16:47 <epsy> mutliPlayer.maxTeams = 5;
16:47 <smoothice> multiPlayer.maxTeams = 5;
16:47 <smoothice> ok
16:47 <epsy> and wait for next round
16:47 <smoothice> epsy: error: 'multiPlayer' was not declared in this scope
16:47 <smoothice> :/
16:48 <epsy> where are you using it?
16:48 <smoothice> ePlayer.cpp
16:48 <nsh22> so... does that rogram use kinda the same language as tron?
16:48 <epsy> hm
16:48 <smoothice> epsy: in a static void function used as Func_conf thing
16:48 <smoothice> tConfItemFunc'
16:48 <smoothice> static void Matchpvp_conf(std::istream &s)
16:49 <epsy> what type is multiPlayer already?
16:49 <dlh> gGameSettings
16:49 <epsy> you could use extern <type> multiPlayer
16:49 <nsh22> ok its made
16:49 <dlh> it is in the mess that is gGame
16:49 <epsy> or wait, aren't ..
16:49 <epsy> yeah
16:49 <epsy> so you can't access it from ePlayer
16:49 <smoothice> :O
16:50 <@armabot> lpbugs: [323596] Cannot configure default access levels
16:50 <epsy> so you have to use that in another way :)
16:50 <smoothice> gGameSettings?
16:50 <dlh> smoothice: http://wiki.armagetronad.net/index.php?title=Project_Dependency_Structure
16:50 <epsy> bug 323596
16:50 <teabot> Launchpad bug 323596 in armagetronad "Cannot configure default access levels" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323596
16:50 <nsh22> i g2g now
16:50 <epsy> bb
16:50 <nsh22> bb
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16:51 <dlh> you could hack it and just use tConfItemBase::LoadLine
16:51 <smoothice> tConfItemBase::LoadLine("TEAMS_MAX 10");
16:52 <epsy> heh :\
16:52 <dlh> or just do the stuff in the tron-directory level
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16:52 <smoothice> huh?
16:53 <dlh> ePlayer is in engine. gGame is in tron
16:53 <smoothice> ohhhhhhhh
16:53 <smoothice> alright
16:53 <ct|kyle> PinkTomato: Google is working again
16:54 <PinkTomato> ct|kyle: Yeap :)
16:54 <dlh> #tea
16:54 <@armabot> dlh: Fortress Café: Players (7/32): bi3r, Ct_Concord (Concord@ct), epsy¦×¦, free kill, GnaRL, MobiusPoint, |x|Radian
16:55 <smoothice> epsy: I put my hack at the end of gGame and now I get error: 'ReadPlayer' was not declared in this scope
16:56 <smoothice> ...
16:57 <epsy> then you have to include the ePlayer header
16:58 <smoothice> already included.... #include "ePlayer.h"
16:59 <epsy> then you gotta have to put ReadPlayer in ePlayer.h
16:59 <epsy> maybe try using se_REadPlayer
16:59 <smoothice> ok
17:01 <epsy> meh
17:02 <smoothice> epsy: readplayer is in ePlayer
17:02 <epsy> well, I'll change it to se_ReadPlayer
17:02 <epsy> I know
17:02 <smoothice> You'll change it
17:02 <smoothice> ?
17:02 <epsy> and put it in ePlayer.h
17:02 <epsy> yeah
17:03 <epsy> you could also use ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName
17:03 <epsy> wait
17:03 <epsy> what are you trying to do actually?
17:04 <epsy> er, yeah, you're meant to use ePlayerNetID::FindPlayerByName using se_FindPlayerInChatCommand
17:04 <smoothice> huh?
17:04 <smoothice> I'm trying to make this work
17:04 <smoothice> /admin MATCH_START_PVP smoothice~nw epsy
17:05 <smoothice> and to do that
17:05 <smoothice> I was doing this
17:05 <smoothice> ePlayerNetID * p = ReadPlayer ( s );
17:05 <smoothice> ePlayerNetID * p2 = ReadPlayer ( s );
17:05 <epsy> se_FindPlayerInChatCommand
17:05 <smoothice> but in gGame that no longer works
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17:05 <epsy> is that on .2.8 or trunk?
17:06 <smoothice> I would know???
17:06 <smoothice> lol
17:06 <smoothice> oh
17:06 <smoothice> 0.2.8
17:06 <smoothice> 0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp
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17:08 <epsy> add static ePlayerNetID * se_FindPlayerInChatCommand( ePlayerNetID * sender, char const * command, std::istream & s )
17:08 <epsy> to ePlayer.h
17:08 <epsy> then use it
17:09 <epsy> use 0 as sender
17:10 <smoothice> k
17:11 <smoothice> So the code in gGame would be
17:11 <smoothice> ePlayerNetID * p = se_FindPlayerInChatCommand( 0, s );
17:11 <epsy> yes
17:12 <smoothice> ok
17:12 <epsy> and stop if p == 0
17:12 <smoothice> k
17:12 <epsy> (because it returns 0 when there's no player)
17:13 <epsy> erm, you forgot to put in char const * command :)
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17:14 <smoothice> epsy: http://rafb.net/p/zqTETA64.html
17:16 <epsy> [18:13] <epsy>: erm, you forgot to put in char const * command :)
17:16 <ct|kyle> heh
17:16 <smoothice> ...
17:16 <smoothice> wow
17:16 <smoothice> lol
17:17 <smoothice> I fail
17:17 <smoothice> what do I put for the const command?
17:18 <epsy> const * command
17:18 <epsy> well, read this line and guess:
17:18 <epsy> sn_ConsoleOut( tOutput( "$chatcommand_requires_player", command ), sender->Owner() );
17:19 <smoothice> to be honest I'm confused
17:19 <smoothice> all I need is the functionality of readplayer
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17:21 <smoothice> epsy: currently I have ePlayerNetID * p = se_FindPlayerInChatCommand( 0, s );
17:21 <smoothice> epsy: I don't understand what to do to it.
17:23 <epsy> you forgot an argument
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17:24 <smoothice> "command"?
17:24 <smoothice> Yeah I understand that I didn't put it in there but I don't know what to put for it
17:25 <epsy> well, the command's name??
17:25 <smoothice> MATCH_START_PVP???
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17:28 <epsy> yes
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17:30 <smoothice> error: 'ePlayerNetID* se_FindPlayerInChatCommand(ePlayerNetID*, const char*, std::istream&)' used but never defined
17:30 <smoothice> :/
17:33 <smoothice> epsy: any idea?
17:35 <K-Yo> I think you didn't define that
17:35 <smoothice> ???
17:35 <K-Yo> "used but never defined"
17:36 * K-Yo doesn't know anything in C/C++
17:36 <K-Yo> =P
17:36 <K-Yo> but I can read
17:36 <K-Yo> and usually it helps in the languages I use
17:36 <smoothice> ...
17:36 <smoothice> lol
17:39 <epsy> is that at linking time?
17:39 <smoothice> Nope
17:39 <smoothice> when it compiles ggame
17:39 <epsy> are you sure the prototype matches the actual function?
17:40 <dlh> ugh, stupid zthread
17:40 <smoothice> ok no offense but this cannot possibly be this hard and I don't know why whenever I have a problem I can never solve it
17:40 <epsy> comes with experience
17:40 <smoothice> but then why are you having trouble too?
17:41 <epsy> because I'm not sure about what you see and what you did
17:41 <dlh> debugging through irc is hard
17:41 <epsy> it's probably the prototype not matching the actual function
17:42 <smoothice> epsy: http://www.grabup.com/uploads/f03ad9f5a1c6452231cfcbf940044984.png?direct
17:42 <epsy> the prototype in C++ means what's in the .h
17:42 <smoothice> epsy: http://www.grabup.com/uploads/7143291d952a3de451a480fd2e16aada.png?direct
17:43 <epsy> why do you need to post ugly images of single lines of code? -.-
17:43 <smoothice> ':(
17:43 <smoothice> Why is it so hard to help a noob?
17:44 <epsy> remove the static keyboard on both prototype and function
17:44 <epsy> because he's a noob and doesn't exactly know what to do, or makes wrong assumtions
17:44 <epsy> (and that the guy in front of him assumes he knows what to do, and assumes he does everything correctly)
17:45 <smoothice> If I did everything correctly then we wouldn't be having this conversation
17:45 <epsy> wrtlprnft, haha, I thought about that :<
17:46 <epsy> smoothice, see
17:54 <epsy> smoothice, did that work?
17:56 <Lucifer> don't you leave teh static on the prototype and just remove it from the function?
17:56 <epsy> who needs it anyway :<
17:56 <smoothice> epsy: no
17:57 <epsy> Lucifer, it's not a member function
17:57 <smoothice> epsy: It doesn't
17:57 <Lucifer> epsy: I see static used on c-style functions a lot
17:57 <Lucifer> I don't know why it's done, I just see it
17:57 <Lucifer> for all I know, it's to make sure the function gets placed in a .so
18:01 <Lucifer> smoothice: use a pastebin and put all of your output in it
18:01 <Lucifer> http://rafb.net/paste/ <--- here's one
18:02 <Lucifer> epsy: ahhh, apparently static functions are just a namespace trick
18:02 <epsy> linky?
18:03 <Lucifer> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=static+function&btnG=Search :)
18:06 <epsy> that's for non-member functions, at least for the two first links
18:06 <epsy> 3rd link is the actual case
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18:08 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: arent't static functions outside classes functions that don't create global symbols?
18:08 <wrtlprnft> so they're only available in the source file they appear in
18:09 <wrtlprnft> Lucifer: note the ;-) after my post… that was a joke.
18:09 <wrtlprnft> though if you want us to depend on qt we might just as well use its webkit support :-D
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18:09 <Lucifer> wrtlprnft: :)
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18:24 <smoothice> epsy: I'm not having any luck with anything
18:24 <smoothice> epsy: I'm so close to giving up
18:25 <epsy> have you quad-checked that your prototype matches the actual function?
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18:26 <dlh> bzr di your code and paste it here: http://rafb.net/paste/
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19:06 <luke-jr> dlh: any idea on this new Apple arch?
19:06 <luke-jr> (I heard Apple was dropping x86)
19:07 <iank> O_o
19:08 <smoothice> luke-jr: fail
19:08 <luke-jr> …
19:08 <dlh> I haven't heard anything like that. They could be producing their own ARM chips. They acquired a company that does that.
19:08 <luke-jr> hm
19:09 <luke-jr> I thought it was Intel-produced, but non-x86
19:09 <epsy> they would probably just use it for handhield devices
19:09 <smoothice> dlh: do I have to declare that stringstream each time I use that code hunk
19:10 <dlh> yes. it is a local variable.
19:10 <smoothice> k
19:11 <luke-jr> dlh: :D #ArmaTWGeTRON
19:11 <epsy> luke-jr, if I pay you, would you make a device to stab people over the internet?
19:12 <luke-jr> no
19:12 <luke-jr> well, depends how much
19:15 <wrtlprnft> emphasis: probably a remote-controlled knife in every computer would be better than a tpm chip
19:16 <epsy> emphasis, whoa you ass, you want to stab people over the internet?!
19:19 <luke-jr> emphasis?
19:22 <epsy> bbl
19:22 <wrtlprnft> epsy: he wants to stab people in the ass, of course
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19:24 <@armabot> armacommits: [protocolbuffer-armagetronad-work] r865 Added tShortColor and steaming functions to tColor.h; use th...
19:25 <wrtlprnft> steaming functions! neat!
19:26 <wrtlprnft> imagine all the boiling paint buckets full of hot color
19:32 <luke-jr> smoothice: TWG?
19:33 <smoothice> nty
19:34 <smoothice> In a tConfItemFunc how do I get the name of the player that called the command?
19:37 <wrtlprnft> err, you don't? I mean, you can call them from a config file or stdin
19:37 <dlh> you can't through /admin <command>.
19:38 <smoothice> oh
19:38 <dlh> add a new top-level command, /<new-command>
19:38 <wrtlprnft> just what i wanted to say
19:38 <smoothice> dlh: isn't top level commands client-side
19:38 <wrtlprnft> no
19:38 <wrtlprnft> most of them aren't
19:38 <wrtlprnft> i think only /console is
19:39 <wrtlprnft> arma ≠ IRC
19:39 <smoothice> but wait
19:39 <smoothice> when you run a /admin command
19:39 <smoothice> lets say
19:39 <smoothice> /admin silence blahblahlbalhlslglrlg
19:39 <smoothice> and that player doesn't exist
19:39 <smoothice> It tells you it doesn't exist
19:40 <smoothice> So it obviously has to know the player that called it
19:40 <wrtlprnft> that's done via console redirection
19:40 <smoothice> what does that do?
19:40 <wrtlprnft> the code in /admin tells the console to redirect all its messages to you temporarily
19:40 <dlh> Look in se_AdminAdmin(). The command doesn't report that error, se_AdminAdmin() does
19:40 <smoothice> k
19:41 <wrtlprnft> you could in theory find out of course, by looking at where everything's redirected to, but that would be bad
19:41 <smoothice> ok
19:41 <smoothice> also
19:42 <smoothice> What does se_SecretConsoleOut do?
19:42 <luke-jr> obviously admins only
19:46 <smoothice> So with the console redirection function
19:47 <smoothice> What would be the best way to do this? Run the se_AdminAdmin function directly or extract code out of it to use?
19:47 <smoothice> And doesn't se_AdminAdmin get run atuomatically
19:47 <smoothice> when the command is called
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20:17 <P4> http://www.google.com/trends?q=armagetron&ctab=-1&geo=all&date=all it lowers :¦
20:17 <smoothice> fail
20:17 <smoothice> lol
20:21 <dlh> That's what happens when you don't release often enough
20:24 <luke-jr> http://www.google.com/trends?q=armagetron,tron&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
20:24 <wrtlprnft> dlh: looks like there are two ways to solve your overlap problem: modify the font to scale all the accented uppercase letters down or increase the line height…
20:25 <wrtlprnft> dlh: it gets even worse if the previous line contains a g
20:25 <dlh> yeah
20:25 <dlh> it does
20:25 <dlh> covers the text below it too :|
20:26 <wrtlprnft> the white box isn't the problem i guess, because the text in the next line will be rendered over it
20:29 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1008 removed unnecessary whitespace || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1007 More groundwork for MATCH_START_PVP || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1006 Added setting team_max_players for use in match_start_pvp || [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1005 More work on MATCH_START_PVP (teams_max)
20:31 <wrtlprnft> dlh: in fact there's a setting, font_size_factor
20:32 <wrtlprnft> dlh: so the line height is (height of an A)/font_size_factor
20:32 <wrtlprnft> feel free to change the default if the bug bothers you
20:33 <wrtlprnft> i'll change the font to make °A a little less space consuming
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20:43 <dlh> Why isn't the line height the bounding box of the font?
20:44 <wrtlprnft> where is that stored?
20:44 <dlh> wrtlprnft: I'm going by this. See the last part on the page. http://developer.apple.com/DOCUMENTATION/Carbon/Conceptual/ATSUI_Concepts/atsui_chap2/chapter_2_section_6.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000028-TPXREF138
20:44 <dlh> "the typographic bounding rectangle takes into account the ascent and descent needed to accommodate all glyphs in a font"
20:45 <wrtlprnft> now one just needs to figure out how to squeeze that out of ftgl
20:45 <dlh> Yeah
20:45 <dlh> or rather freetype
20:46 <wrtlprnft> assuming you can squezze a freetype font handle out of ftgl
20:47 <wrtlprnft> but anyways, for my client config i'd be willing to accept a bit of overlapping in rare cases (like g over Á) if i can fit more stuff on my screen
20:48 <dlh> Hmm, couldn't you just use FTFont::BBox()?
20:49 <wrtlprnft> isn't that the version that accepts a string?
20:49 <wrtlprnft> that's what i'm using to draw the white rectangles
20:49 <dlh> well the rectangles seem to be the right height dimension all the time
20:50 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8927 /armagetronad/tags/0.2.8.3_beta1/: Tagged 0.2.8.3_beta1.
20:50 <wrtlprnft> so lines should have a different height depending on the characters in them?
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20:51 <epsy> hmpg
20:51 <epsy> that would look odd
20:51 <wrtlprnft> hehe
20:51 <wrtlprnft> virtual float LineHeight() const;
20:51 <wrtlprnft> that looks a little more promising
20:52 <wrtlprnft> * Gets the line spacing for the font.
20:52 <wrtlprnft> * @return Line height
20:52 <epsy> kinda
20:53 <epsy> any reason you can't tell a text box to just fill it's cockpit widget?
20:53 <wrtlprnft> by scaling?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> hmm, can i assume the font size always scales linearily with the font's size?
20:54 <wrtlprnft> s/size/line height/
20:54 <epsy> font size always scales with font size??
20:54 <wrtlprnft> because all code specifies the line height it wants, not the actual font size
20:54 <epsy> yeah, showing it as big os possible
20:55 <wrtlprnft> so the code needs to choose a smaller font with the right line height
20:55 <wrtlprnft> which is problematic if you can't know the line height without creating a font
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20:57 <epsy> other solution: screw colors rendering over white as a whole :)
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20:58 <wrtlprnft> that's not a solution
20:58 <wrtlprnft> the actual characters overlap
20:58 <epsy> meh
21:05 * akira_arma pokes flex
21:05 <Flex> ?
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21:17 <madmax> wrtlprnft: cafe is imploding!
21:17 <wrtlprnft> #tea
21:17 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “cafe” at the moment, sorry.
21:18 <MaZuffeR> crashed twice in 2mins
21:18 <K-Yo> ^o)
21:18 <wrtlprnft> o_O
21:18 <wrtlprnft> i thought those crashers were fixed
21:18 <K-Yo> o)
21:18 <wrtlprnft> that's bad for 0.2.8.3, too
21:18 <K-Yo> #si 2
21:18 <wrtlprnft> because it's running 0.2.8.3 code
21:18 <@armabot> K-Yo: Flynn's Arcade #2 (Brakes) - .:Avl:. Clan Nano: Players (0/8):
21:18 <dlh> can you get a backtrace?
21:18 <K-Yo> #si e 2
21:18 <madmax> ouch :-/
21:18 <@armabot> K-Yo: There doesn't seem to be a server matching “e 2” at the moment, sorry.
21:18 <wrtlprnft> dlh: not anymore :-(
21:18 <dlh> or maybe just start it recording
21:19 <K-Yo> #si s 2
21:19 <@armabot> K-Yo: Crazy Tronners Ladle Fortress 2: Players (1/26): cT¤K-Yo (K-Yo@ct)
21:19 <K-Yo> :)
21:19 <madmax> no K-Yo, you do too much funky admin stuff there!
21:19 <K-Yo> madmax, I never do anything
21:20 <K-Yo> madmax, owned did that
21:22 <wrtlprnft> dlh: MaZuffeR: i don't even have a log entry of that…
21:23 <madmax> reason on client was time out
21:23 <wrtlprnft> all exits have a “server exiting due to dedicated_idle after…” message shortly after the exit
21:23 <wrtlprnft> did that just happen today or ist it going on for a longer time
21:23 <wrtlprnft> ?
21:24 <akira_arma> just now
21:24 <akira_arma> its back up tho
21:24 <MaZuffeR> i haven't seen it before
21:24 <dlh> wrtlprnft: I would start the server in recording mode so you can catch it
21:24 <wrtlprnft> everyone just timed out
21:25 <wrtlprnft> and i had trouble ssh'ing into it just now
21:25 <guru3> anyone up for a game on my server?
21:25 <wrtlprnft> my provider just had a power outage a couple of days ago
21:25 <wrtlprnft> so i think it's an issue with their network
21:25 <wrtlprnft> which they'll hopefully fix
21:25 <wrtlprnft> sure
21:27 <wrtlprnft> guru3: what server?
21:27 <guru3> guru3's server
21:28 <wrtlprnft> #si -v guru3
21:28 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Guru3's Server (81.235.164.45:4535) running 0.2.8_alpha20080308 unix dedicated, url: http://forums.armagetronad.net/, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (3/16): delbech, madmax, Tank Program
21:32 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-sty+pvp] r1009 Merge from 0.2.8 || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r822 Removed improperly autogenerated characters with huge descen... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r821 Attempt to automatically figure out the line height and use ...
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21:33 <guru3> this is odd
21:33 <guru3> the corner of the rim wall can come infront of the minimap
21:33 <guru3> or edge i shoudl say
21:37 <guru3> any hud element it seems
21:39 -!- smoothice [n=smoothic@97-118-164-240.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
21:40 <guru3> smoothice!
21:40 <guru3> come join us!
21:40 <guru3> #si -v guru3
21:40 <@armabot> guru3: Guru3's Server (81.235.164.45:4535) running 0.2.8_alpha20080308 unix dedicated, url: http://forums.armagetronad.net/, Description: “All settings at default values.“, Players (6/16): Eclipse, free kill, madmax, MaZuffeR, Tank Program, wrtlprnft |mbc|
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21:41 <smoothice> guru3: Who said I was available?
21:41 <guru3> you joined irc didn't you?
21:41 <smoothice> guru3: I'm busy at the moment... maybe later.
21:41 <smoothice> Thanks anyway :P
21:47 <dlh> wrtlprnft: How can you make the font larger now that FONT_SIZE_FACTOR is gone?
21:55 <epsy> console_columns
21:56 <epsy> dlh,
21:56 <wrtlprnft> guru3: interesing, that should be fixed
21:56 <wrtlprnft> dlh: you could never do any useful scaling to the font with that setting since the line height was fixed
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21:56 <wrtlprnft> so for anything >1 the font would overlap like crazy
21:56 <guru3> well, i am using 0.3.0
21:57 -!- ct|kyle [n=kyle@pool-71-97-147-102.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #armagetron
21:57 <dlh> console_columns only changes the console size
21:59 <wrtlprnft> i could off course introduce another factor under a different name
21:59 <wrtlprnft> *of
22:02 <dlh> wrtlprnft: I think that would be useful. Right now the size is a little too small for me to read comfortably.
22:03 <wrtlprnft> even with my second commit?
22:06 <smoothice> When was 0.2.8.2.1 released?
22:06 <wrtlprnft> more than a year ago?
22:06 <epsy> more than two years ago
22:07 <smoothice> wow
22:07 <smoothice> Wasn't 0.2.8.3 due like a year ago?
22:07 <dlh> wrtlprnft: with the default font is okay, but I use a custom font
22:07 <epsy> August 4, 2006, according to SF
22:07 <dlh> with the default font it is*
22:07 <smoothice> epsy: 0.2.8.3 was due on 12/25 wasn't it
22:08 <epsy> nah, it was originally set to june or something like that
22:08 <smoothice> epsy: Why not release it asap?'
22:08 <epsy> as we ran past it, I set it to an imaginary date
22:08 * epsy can't choose to release packages
22:08 <smoothice> o
22:08 <smoothice> k
22:08 <epsy> if it was up to me, I'd release a beta asap
22:09 <smoothice> #ls -v guru3
22:09 <epsy> even if there are known bugs
22:09 <dlh> beta1 was tagged
22:09 <dlh> today
22:09 <smoothice> today?
22:09 <@armabot> smoothice: timed out
22:09 <smoothice> on SVN?
22:09 <epsy> normally on SVN
22:09 <dlh> http://armagetronad.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/armagetronad?view=rev&revision=8927
22:10 <epsy> well, don't disturb Mr.Z then :)
22:11 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8928 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added 0.2.8.3_beta1.
22:11 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
22:11 <wrtlprnft> now you can
22:11 <epsy> :)
22:12 <guru3> well, i am using 0.3.0
22:12 <guru3> oops
22:14 <wrtlprnft> ls
22:15 <smoothice> #lastseen smoothice~nw
22:15 <@armabot> smoothice: SmOoThice~NW has last been seen on internalDrive -=- iD Tech Racing! 40 minutes ago.
22:20 <wrtlprnft> dlh: there you go
22:24 <guru3> wrtlprnft: what do you think about adding italics & bold support somehow?
22:24 <epsy> wrtlprnft, colors are already abused enough
22:24 <epsy> well, that wasn't directly directed at wrtl, but w/e
22:25 <epsy> that would require a good split between chat and random console stuff
22:35 <@armabot> armacommits: [0.2.8-armagetronad-work] r1007 Added section for post-beta1 changes.... || [trunk-armagetronad-work] r823 added LINE_HEIGHT as a replacement for FONT_SIZE_FACTOR (but...
22:35 <wrtlprnft> guru3: i guess that'll come when we design new color codes
22:36 <dlh> wrtlprnft: thanks
22:36 <wrtlprnft> dlh: yw
22:36 <guru3> excellent
22:36 <epsy> maybe split chat (and keep color codes) and other stuff separate?
22:36 <wrtlprnft> guru3: except maybe stuff like _undelined_ and /italic/ (enableable on the client side), but it's a little much work for so little gain
22:37 <dlh> I was thinking it would be nice to remove the *DEAD* prefix from chat messages, and instead do a line strikethrough through their name
22:37 <epsy> well, actually I hardly see where it would be useful
22:37 <dlh> more compact and easier to read
22:37 <wrtlprnft> personally i always change *DEAD* to just Ü*
22:38 <wrtlprnft> *just *
22:38 <epsy> heh
22:39 <dlh> Can you do custom language strings in your user_data_dir? Or do you just change the language file itself?
22:39 <wrtlprnft> and IIRC that was what was originally committed, just someone figured noone would understand what the * stands for
22:39 <dlh> For example add a new language english_custom.txt
22:39 <wrtlprnft> interesting question... i just change the file
22:41 <wrtlprnft> but language files overriding one another already exist… english_british, for example
22:42 <guru3> why don't we have a klingon language pack?
22:42 <epsy> yeah, I use that for the special access levels on ¦×¦.Server :)
22:43 <epsy> ie. LANGUAGE_FIRST X server specificਠLANGUAGE_SECOND english
22:43 <epsy> s/U+A20/U+20/
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22:48 <wrtlprnft> hmm, i wonder, is there any easy way on linux to remote-control an X session on a remote machine without transmitting its display's contents?
22:49 <guru3> xtest extension
22:49 <guru3> i think
22:49 <guru3> that'll send input at least
22:49 <guru3> getting output could be tricky
22:49 <wrtlprnft> i don't want that :-)
22:49 <wrtlprnft> i can see the monitor of the machine in question
22:49 <guru3> hmm hold on
22:49 <epsy> *cough* what about local input ? *cough*
22:49 <guru3> synergy
22:49 <wrtlprnft> i'd just like to use my notebook's keyboard and touchpad
22:49 <guru3> definetely synergy then
22:50 <wrtlprnft> ideally there should be some keyboard combo to switch between the two
22:50 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:50 <nsh22> hey
22:50 <guru3> just turn synnergy on and off
22:50 <wrtlprnft> thanks
22:50 <nsh22> smoothice: you there?
22:51 <smoothice> Yes sir
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22:52 * armastybot agrees
22:53 <smoothice> nsh22: food channel is invite only btw
22:53 <luke-jr> ☹
22:53 <smoothice> ?
22:53 <luke-jr> #kick armastybot
22:53 -!- armastybot [n=supybot@c-76-120-73-145.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "luke-jr"]
22:53 <smoothice> excuse me?
22:53 <nsh22> again?
22:53 <luke-jr> was there a reason we need another bot?
22:53 <nsh22> your excused
22:54 <smoothice> luke-jr: Why do we need ljrbot then
22:54 <nsh22> FFS
22:54 <luke-jr> ljrbot actually does things unique
22:54 <ljrbot> luke-jr: Error: "actually" is not a valid command.
22:54 <@armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r8929 /www/beta/trunk/www-aabeta/releases.php: Added link to SF for 0.2.8.3_beta1.
22:54 <@armabot> Executed aauptest: /home/supybot/a
22:54 <smoothice> #kick ljrbot
22:54 <@armabot> smoothice: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
22:54 <wrtlprnft> #kick armabot
22:54 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: You don't have the #armagetron,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
22:54 <luke-jr> …
22:55 <wrtlprnft> #kick armabot
22:55 <@armabot> wrtlprnft: Error: I cowardly refuse to kick myself.
22:55 <wrtlprnft> hehe
22:55 <smoothice> wrtl
22:55 <smoothice> #kick ljrbot !!!!
22:55 <luke-jr> need testers for yanderebot in #armaTWGeTRON plz
22:55 <nsh22> lol oi changed the foodlovers to open
22:55 <smoothice> k
22:56 <luke-jr> wrtlprnft: want to help test? :þ
22:56 * wrtlprnft is missing a #channel force-roulette
22:56 <wrtlprnft> where you can force someone else to play roulette
22:56 <smoothice> #roulette
22:56 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
22:56 <nsh22> #roulette
22:56 <smoothice> #roulette click
22:56 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has left #armagetron [requested by armabot: "BANG!"]
22:56 * armabot reloads and spins the chambers.
22:56 <@armabot> smoothice: (roulette [spin]) -- Fires the revolver. If the bullet was in the chamber, you're dead. Tell me to spin the chambers and I will.
22:56 <smoothice> #roulette spin
22:56 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
22:57 <smoothice> #roulette
22:57 <@armabot> smoothice: *click*
22:57 <smoothice> How come it doesn't work
22:57 -!- nsh22 [n=neal@bas3-barrie18-1177706508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #armagetron
22:57 <nsh22> ...
22:57 <nsh22> nice game
22:57 <luke-jr> need one more for testign
22:59 <dlh> #roulette spin
22:59 <@armabot> *SPIN* Are you feeling lucky?
22:59 <dlh> #roulette
22:59 <@armabot> dlh: *click*
22:59 <P4> #42 http://web.archive.org/web/19981202230410/www.google.com/
22:59 <@armabot> P4: http://42.pl/u/1uFv
23:02 <luke-jr> smoothice: -.-
23:02 <Concord> #si cafe
23:02 <@armabot> Concord: Fortress Café: Players (13/32): CycleNub, epsy¦×¦, Hex, Leg, pike, XyuTa, ~|DST|~Mephisto, ~|DS|~biZz, ~|DS|~G5, ~|DS|~zion, ~|DS|~|GonZ|~, ¦×¦ $ubzero, ¦×¦ Hoax
23:04 <guru3> that was pretty good
23:04 <guru3> got my 100 minutes of tron in
23:05 <nsh22> guru3: whats your thoughts on a ramp in tron
23:05 <luke-jr> guru3: #armaTWGeTRON :þ
23:05 <guru3> could be deadly
23:05 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8930 /armagetronad/branches/0.2.8/armagetronad/ (. NEWS): Manuel Moos: Added section for post-beta1 changes.
23:05 <guru3> i perfer teleportation zones
23:05 <smoothice> lol
23:05 <smoothice> ivantis's?
23:06 <nsh22> ah, those would work better...
23:06 <nsh22> but im thinking of like diffeent floors
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23:07 <guru3> well the giant cube would be cool
23:07 <nsh22> if/when i learmnn c++, ill try my hand at making it work (and fail epically at the same time)
23:07 <nsh22> smooth, stop
23:07 <luke-jr> smoothice: vote wrtlprnft
23:07 <smoothice> nsh22: lol
23:07 <smoothice> fine
23:07 <smoothice> &part
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23:14 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8931 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): wrtlprnft: Attempt to automatically figure out the line height and use that information instead of FONT_SIZE_FACTOR (which has been removed)
23:17 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8932 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. textures/Armagetronad.ttf textures/armagetronad.sfd): wrtlprnft: Removed improperly autogenerated characters with huge descenders
23:18 <luke-jr> need TWG testers!
23:18 <@armabot> armagetronad: bazaarmagetron * r8933 /armagetronad/trunk/armagetronad/ (. src/render/rFont.cpp): wrtlprnft: added LINE_HEIGHT as a replacement for FONT_SIZE_FACTOR (but it acts inversely) on dlh's request
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23:35 <nsh22> how do i add files to my branch that would be helpful to what i want to do?
23:36 <epsy> bzr help add
23:37 <nsh22> anyone have the urge to help a useless cause?
23:37 <luke-jr> …
23:37 <epsy> [00:36] <epsy>: bzr help add
23:37 <nsh22> i know
23:37 <epsy> so?
23:38 <nsh22> im not talking about that, im talking about actually joiningthe branch
23:38 <epsy> joining?
23:38 <epsy> merging?
23:38 <epsy> merging from mainline?
23:41 <epsy> or maybe just adding changes to the branch hosted on launchpad?
23:41 <nsh22> ummm, i guess
23:41 <epsy> care to explain?
23:41 <nsh22> well, im dumb, as you know, and i started the 0.3-ramp branch, now wtf do i do with it
23:41 <epsy> did you do changes to it?
23:42 <nsh22> like?
23:42 <epsy> like editing a file
23:42 <nsh22> ni
23:42 <nsh22> no
23:42 <epsy> well I don't know what you are wanting to do then
23:42 <nsh22> nvm, i dont know either :X
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23:43 <epsy> type bzr rocks, then
23:43 <nsh22> when i figure it out ill tell you
23:43 <nsh22> lol
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23:44 <nsh22> lol @ bzr rocks
23:45 <wrtlprnft> hehe
23:45 <wrtlprnft> like emerge moo
23:45 <epsy> shouldn't it bash you for doing that?
23:45 <wrtlprnft> (yum is the only package management tool i know that doesn't support moo)
23:46 <epsy> $ pacman moo
23:46 <epsy> Erreur: aucune opération spécifiée (utiliser -h pour obtenir de l'aide)
23:46 <wrtlprnft> bzr: ERROR: unknown command "sucks"
23:46 <epsy> try with cvs
23:46 <epsy> :)
23:47 <nsh22> fuckit, i need to practise for tourny
23:47 * nsh22 is away:
23:47 * epsy slaps nsh22
23:48 * nsh22 punches espy
23:48 * epsy has a reason for slapping nsh22 * nsh22 hasn't
23:52 <nsh22> you said i could go /away if i didnt have a message, and i dont
23:52 <epsy> what's this then: [00:47] * nsh22 is away:
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23:53 <nsh22> .....
23:54 <epsy> nsh22, slash q tab tab enter for ragequit
23:55 -!- maclover201 [n=Morgan@71-218-130-69.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #armagetron
23:55 <maclover201> I have a coding question
23:55 <nsh22> ?
23:56 <nsh22> s?
23:56 <maclover201> So, how would I use the game's built-in timer to program win zones so they disappear after someone touches them?
23:56 <maclover201> 10 seconds after
23:56 <maclover201> lol
23:56 <nsh22> lol um biuld a patch
23:57 <maclover201> yeah, but I'm wondering what I should modify in the code... I know it's going to be in gWinZoneHack::OnEnter( )
23:57 <PinkTomato> maClover201: Why do need to do that :)?
23:57 <epsy> well, assign the time you want the winzone to disappear to some random variable, then, hack in a check to see if you've ran over that time, then trigger the winzone's ragequit
23:57 <maclover201> PinkTomato: It's for a racing server that I'm running
23:57 <maclover201> hmm
23:58 <PinkTomato> maclover201: hoop developed that
23:58 <maclover201> PinkTomato: He did?
23:58 <PinkTomato> Only problem is there is no released patchfile
23:58 <maclover201> ok
23:58 <PinkTomato> maclover201: You mean like {DD} Racing right?
23:58 <maclover201> Yeah
23:59 <PinkTomato> maclover201: well if you want it like {DD} Racing, someone must have done it ;)
23:59 <maclover201> :D
23:59 <maclover201> lol
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