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[2022-02-09 13:30:49] <Z-Man> Aw man, Covid sucks. Glad you were not hit hard.
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[2022-02-09 17:09:33] <Lucifer_arma> actually, it was pretty rough.  I had a resurgence after that.  It's mostly gone now, pretty sure I'm just trying to recover my strength again
[2022-02-09 17:09:38] <Lucifer_arma> at least I didn't need to be hospitalized ;)
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[2022-02-15 16:53:10] <Z-Man> Oh well, yeah, at least that. I recently learned that that counts as "mild case" in the statistics. No hostpital => can't have been that bad, is the logic.
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[2022-02-17 19:09:46] <Lucifer_arma> I guess that does make it a mild case, then.  But still a case that's requiring me to actively manage the physical recovery of my strength :(
[2022-02-17 19:10:35] <Lucifer_arma> we also got hit with a winter storm right when the covid was finishing up, so I didn't have much opportunity to engage in physical recovery activities for a few more days :/
[2022-02-17 19:10:56] <Lucifer_arma> in other news, the Unreal engine is now Almost Open Source(tm)
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[2022-02-18 14:22:13] -!- Topic for #armagetron is "Armagetron Advanced | http://www.armagetronad.org/ | Welcome to IRC"
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[2022-02-18 14:22:13] -!- Channel #armagetron created on 2021-04-20 19:56:37 UTC
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[2022-02-18 14:22:17] -!- Channel #armagetron created on 2021-05-20 17:23:14 UTC
[2022-02-18 15:21:45] <Z-Man> What has changed with Unreal? It has been sorta open source for a while.  In that if you license it, which costs nothing upfront, you get the full source, you're allowed to modify and share it with other licensees. It's just that you're still bound to the license, especially the royality payments should you make money with it.
[2022-02-18 17:25:14] <Lucifer_arma_> probably that I found out about it, heh
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[2022-02-18 17:25:31] <Lucifer_arma> their license is incompatible with the GPL, so I'm not about to start using it
[2022-02-18 17:25:50] <Lucifer_arma> but they are offering various grants to try to create more 3d/game technology
[2022-02-18 17:26:05] <Lucifer_arma> I don't know if that's new, either, I only know that my son just discovered it and told me about it
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[2022-02-20 15:37:40] <Z-Man> Oh yeah, they are throwing around their Fortnite money quite a lot, even to their distant competition: https://godotengine.org/article/godot-engine-was-awarded-epic-megagrant
[2022-02-20 15:43:45] <Z-Man> They're a strange company to evaluate ethically. I do want to like them, because of stuff like that, because they're giving developers a biger share than others on their store, they're giving out mostly good free games every week, and boss Sweeney is big on nature preservation
[2022-02-20 15:45:26] <Z-Man> But their staged revolt against Apple just reeks of greed, Fortnite is stealing everything, and they welcome NFT games.
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[2022-02-20 15:46:57] <Z-Man> I like that Unreal is Open Source-ish, but I don't really want to work with it. Plus, it's really bloated for anything I would be able to do anyway.
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[2022-02-20 18:59:14] <Lucifer_arma> well, my son and I applied for a grant.  Could take up to 90 days for them to get back to us, if they do at all
[2022-02-20 19:00:27] <Lucifer_arma> I compared their Almost Open Source effort to previous attempts by Sun and Microsoft (and a few others) to try to embrace open source while retaining complete control
[2022-02-20 19:00:58] <Lucifer_arma> we do suspect that they may not be able to use a freer license than what they have because of licensing SDKs for consoles, where Unreal is used a lot
[2022-02-20 19:01:42] <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, I'm not looking to switch to Unreal either.  It's not free enough, and does seem to be geared around FPS/RPG games
[2022-02-20 19:02:22] <Lucifer_arma> but if they're willing to throw some money our way to help us get cerritos going, of course we'll take that, and do that, and then we'll have another quality game engine with a free license (MIT)
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