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[2023-08-29 02:25:41] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| There have been a few that made bots that allow consistent perfect turns and escapes, here's a thread about someone going incognito and asking a cheater to buy their bot code https://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=230719#p230719
[2023-08-29 02:25:41] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| There have been a few that made bots that allow consistent perfect turns and escapes, here's a thread about someone going incognito and asking a cheater to buy their bot code https://forums3.armagetronad.net/viewtopic.php?p=230719#p230719
[2023-08-29 02:26:51] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| I think all of the bots people came up with were always weak to digs
[2023-08-29 02:26:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I think all of the bots people came up with were always weak to digs
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[2023-08-29 08:00:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| ah ok thanks, so he didn't do much damage
[2023-08-29 08:00:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| ah ok thanks, so he didn't do much damage
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[2023-08-29 11:02:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Swag was a more malicious cheater that somewhat helped kill of the game to a certain extent I think around 2014 by DDoSing tournament servers. He didn’t even play the modes that the tournaments were for, he’d just come watch and ddos regularly. He also had a modded client with an “aimbot” as someone in the last thread put it
[2023-08-29 11:02:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Swag was a more malicious cheater that somewhat helped kill of the game to a certain extent I think around 2014 by DDoSing tournament servers. He didn’t even play the modes that the tournaments were for, he’d just come watch and ddos regularly. He also had a modded client with an “aimbot” as someone in the last thread put it
[2023-08-29 11:04:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| how do you mean under 'aimbot'?
[2023-08-29 11:04:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| how do you mean under 'aimbot'?
[2023-08-29 11:12:18] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Same as the bot I described earlier, allows you to perfectly turn (aim) your cycle down tunnels, always turn without a gap on outside corners, which is pretty impossible to do perfectly every single time. I don’t have exact numbers but the best who practice for years can do those perfect turns maybe 10-20% of the time when they try
[2023-08-29 11:12:18] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Same as the bot I described earlier, allows you to perfectly turn (aim) your cycle down tunnels, always turn without a gap on outside corners, which is pretty impossible to do perfectly every single time. I don’t have exact numbers but the best who practice for years can do those perfect turns maybe 10-20% of the time when they try
[2023-08-29 11:20:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| ok this is hard/annoying  to code
[2023-08-29 11:20:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| ok this is hard/annoying  to code
[2023-08-29 11:21:10] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I get a perfect turn it's pretty much accidental  for sure lol
[2023-08-29 11:21:10] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I get a perfect turn it's pretty much accidental  for sure lol
[2023-08-29 11:22:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| You don't need to modify the in-game bots, you can use the scripting engine to do it. You'll need to set these options in your server config: 
[2023-08-29 11:22:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ```
[2023-08-29 11:22:30] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT  1|1
[2023-08-29 11:22:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You don't need to modify the in-game bots, you can use the scripting engine to do it. You'll need to set these options in your server config: 
[2023-08-29 11:22:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ```
[2023-08-29 11:22:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT  1|1
[2023-08-29 11:22:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT_TIMEOUT 3
[2023-08-29 11:22:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| WAIT_FOR_EXTERNAL_SCRIPT_TIMEOUT 3
[2023-08-29 11:22:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_NEXT_ROUND 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_NEXT_ROUND 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_ALL 1|1
[2023-08-29 11:22:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_ALL 1|1
[2023-08-29 11:22:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_GAME_TIME_INTERVAL 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_GAME_TIME_INTERVAL 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:37] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_NUM_HUMANS 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_NUM_HUMANS 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:38] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_TEAM_PLAYER_ADDED 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_TEAM_PLAYER_ADDED 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_TEAM_PLAYER_REMOVED 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_TEAM_PLAYER_REMOVED 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_COMMENCING 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_COMMENCING 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_NEXT_ROUND 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_NEXT_ROUND 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:43] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_ROUND_SCORE 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_MATCH_SCORE 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_MATCH_SCORE 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:46] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_PLAYER_RENAMED 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:46] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_PLAYER_RENAMED 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_PLAYER_LEFT 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_PLAYER_LEFT 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_INVALID_COMMAND 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_INVALID_COMMAND 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_FLAG_TAKE 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_FLAG_TAKE 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_FLAG_SCORE 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| LADDERLOG_WRITE_FLAG_SCORE 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| INTERCEPT_UNKNOWN_COMMANDS 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| INTERCEPT_UNKNOWN_COMMANDS 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| CONDENSE_CONQUEST_OUTPUT 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| CONDENSE_CONQUEST_OUTPUT 1
[2023-08-29 11:22:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| PLAYER_GRIDPOS_INTERVAL 0.1
[2023-08-29 11:22:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| PLAYER_GRIDPOS_INTERVAL 0.1
[2023-08-29 11:22:56] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ```
[2023-08-29 11:22:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ```
[2023-08-29 11:22:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| You can adjust `PLAYER_GRIDPOS_INTERVAL 0.1` as needed
[2023-08-29 11:22:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You can adjust `PLAYER_GRIDPOS_INTERVAL 0.1` as needed
[2023-08-29 11:31:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| I'm not familiar with the commands, will try these out someday
[2023-08-29 11:31:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| I want to beat the soloplayer bot without touching my keyboard 😄 just4fun
[2023-08-29 11:31:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| I'm not familiar with the commands, will try these out someday
[2023-08-29 11:31:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| I want to beat the soloplayer bot without touching my keyboard 😄 just4fun
[2023-08-29 11:32:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Just bear in mind that we don't generally take too kindly to bots being used in public game servers
[2023-08-29 11:32:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Just bear in mind that we don't generally take too kindly to bots being used in public game servers
[2023-08-29 11:35:24] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| I have nothing bad in mind and when i play multiplayer i only play legit
[2023-08-29 11:35:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| I have nothing bad in mind and when i play multiplayer i only play legit
[2023-08-29 11:35:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| S'FINE, JUST WORTH MENTIONING IS ALL
[2023-08-29 11:35:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| S'FINE, JUST WORTH MENTIONING IS ALL
[2023-08-29 11:35:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| o sorry caps
[2023-08-29 11:35:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| o sorry caps
[2023-08-29 11:36:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| :cat_okidoki:
[2023-08-29 11:36:42] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| :cat_okidoki:
[2023-08-29 11:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| but is it allowed to post something like a "devlog" in media?
[2023-08-29 11:37:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| but is it allowed to post something like a "devlog" in media?
[2023-08-29 11:38:11] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| as in, general posting on your progress, here or on the forums? sure
[2023-08-29 11:38:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| as in, general posting on your progress, here or on the forums? sure
[2023-08-29 11:41:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:staybased_| #tron-media 😄
[2023-08-29 11:41:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:staybased_| #tron-media 😄
[2023-08-29 11:41:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| prolly better to keep it in #programming unless its video footage but yeah sure
[2023-08-29 11:41:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| prolly better to keep it in #programming unless its video footage but yeah sure
[2023-08-29 17:03:32] <Lucifer_arma> It's best to share your code :)
[2023-08-29 17:03:32] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| It's best to share your code :)
[2023-08-29 17:03:44] <Lucifer_arma> If you wind up making a great bot that can work as an AI, that would be even better.
[2023-08-29 17:03:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| If you wind up making a great bot that can work as an AI, that would be even better.
[2023-08-29 17:04:08] <Lucifer_arma> I've always encouraged people to write bots with that in mind, especially if you write bots that can do team play effectively
[2023-08-29 17:04:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've always encouraged people to write bots with that in mind, especially if you write bots that can do team play effectively
[2023-08-29 17:04:51] <Lucifer_arma> We've had others before swag, even.  Focus was someone who also ddos'd servers.  he hit mine one night, and faded off after that.  We beat him by basically ignoring him.
[2023-08-29 17:04:52] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| We've had others before swag, even.  Focus was someone who also ddos'd servers.  he hit mine one night, and faded off after that.  We beat him by basically ignoring him.
[2023-08-29 17:05:14] <Lucifer_arma> That was back when the rip bug was a thing, and he took advantage of that a lot to crash servers.  There was someone before him who was also before my time who did basically the same things
[2023-08-29 17:05:15] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| That was back when the rip bug was a thing, and he took advantage of that a lot to crash servers.  There was someone before him who was also before my time who did basically the same things
[2023-08-29 17:06:39] <Lucifer_arma> Then there was Jonathan.  He wasn't a cheater, but he's notable here because he would use local multiplayer to add several bots to a game.  He was never disruptive about it, always asking permission before bringing his bots in, or only going on servers where there wasn't anybody so he could test his bots
[2023-08-29 17:06:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Then there was Jonathan.  He wasn't a cheater, but he's notable here because he would use local multiplayer to add several bots to a game.  He was never disruptive about it, always asking permission before bringing his bots in, or only going on servers where there wasn't anybody so he could test his bots
[2023-08-29 17:06:56] <Lucifer_arma> I don't remember if he ever posted his bot code, though, but I do remember always wanting him to
[2023-08-29 17:06:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I don't remember if he ever posted his bot code, though, but I do remember always wanting him to
[2023-08-29 17:08:02] <Lucifer_arma> but yeah, any coding you want to do is welcome, just don't be disruptive to people playing the game and you're fine.
[2023-08-29 17:08:02] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but yeah, any coding you want to do is welcome, just don't be disruptive to people playing the game and you're fine.
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[2023-08-29 20:50:02] <Lucifer_arma> gotta love this little problem.  My message logs are fine, there's no way they could be wrong.  So, when I see an anomaly in the log, is it the program misbehaving, or is the reporting tool that I wrote misbehaving?
[2023-08-29 20:50:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| gotta love this little problem.  My message logs are fine, there's no way they could be wrong.  So, when I see an anomaly in the log, is it the program misbehaving, or is the reporting tool that I wrote misbehaving?
[2023-08-29 20:56:19] <Lucifer_arma> ah, it was me misusing the tool that I wrote :)
[2023-08-29 20:56:20] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ah, it was me misusing the tool that I wrote :)
[2023-08-29 23:00:29] <Lucifer_arma> I need a function that'll take in a single int, generally starting at 1 and going up to, say, 1000000 or more, and outputs 3 unique bytes.  I want to color code message IDs in my message analyzer
[2023-08-29 23:00:29] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I need a function that'll take in a single int, generally starting at 1 and going up to, say, 1000000 or more, and outputs 3 unique bytes.  I want to color code message IDs in my message analyzer
[2023-08-29 23:01:23] <Lucifer_arma> Basically, I want to color code the message ID in the listing, and the ack reply-to field, so that I can easily match them up, but I don't want the colors to dither, I want nearby numbers to have distinct colors
[2023-08-29 23:01:24] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Basically, I want to color code the message ID in the listing, and the ack reply-to field, so that I can easily match them up, but I don't want the colors to dither, I want nearby numbers to have distinct colors
[2023-08-29 23:02:50] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:chopeh_| !who
[2023-08-29 23:02:50] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:chopeh_| !who
[2023-08-29 23:19:39] <Lucifer_arma> haha, as expected, I'm not the first one to need this :)
[2023-08-29 23:19:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| haha, as expected, I'm not the first one to need this :)
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