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[2023-12-14 22:50:06] <Lucifer_arma> I don't know that 0.4 can limit the graphical framerate, but it will limit the simulation framerate, and I think there's a default setting for that.
[2023-12-14 22:50:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I don't know that 0.4 can limit the graphical framerate, but it will limit the simulation framerate, and I think there's a default setting for that.
[2023-12-14 22:51:13] <Lucifer_arma> @dgital: I might consider a bladerunner knockoff using programs.  Since you're going into the far future, you can have holograms instead of my 3d printed programs
[2023-12-14 22:51:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| @dgital: I might consider a bladerunner knockoff using programs.  Since you're going into the far future, you can have holograms instead of my 3d printed programs
[2023-12-14 22:52:10] <Lucifer_arma> But you're also looking at cyberpunk ideas.  Programs moving around the network, etc.  The original movie was built on the mainframe model, but now we're a massively distributed network.  It's fair to expect the future network to remain massively distributed, and for there to be new networks springing up on other planets as we move out into the solar system
[2023-12-14 22:52:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| But you're also looking at cyberpunk ideas.  Programs moving around the network, etc.  The original movie was built on the mainframe model, but now we're a massively distributed network.  It's fair to expect the future network to remain massively distributed, and for there to be new networks springing up on other planets as we move out into the solar system
[2023-12-14 22:53:05] <Lucifer_arma> that's another thing the new tron movie didn't consider, even though everyone involved claimed that they did.  But then it was "new life form on a disconnected network".
[2023-12-14 22:53:06] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that's another thing the new tron movie didn't consider, even though everyone involved claimed that they did.  But then it was "new life form on a disconnected network".
[2023-12-14 22:54:17] <Lucifer_arma> if you're sticking to the TRON universe from the movie, and you're interested in a bladerunner knockoff, then a straightforward story about TRON hunting rogue programs in the real world would be pretty interesting
[2023-12-14 22:54:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| if you're sticking to the TRON universe from the movie, and you're interested in a bladerunner knockoff, then a straightforward story about TRON hunting rogue programs in the real world would be pretty interesting
[2023-12-14 22:54:43] <Lucifer_arma> you'd need to find themes to explore that are new/different from bladerunner, otherwise it's not worth going over the same old ground
[2023-12-14 22:54:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you'd need to find themes to explore that are new/different from bladerunner, otherwise it's not worth going over the same old ground
[2023-12-14 22:55:43] <Lucifer_arma> but let's not forget that TRON is not only a character in the movie, but as a program there's no need for him to grow old, if he's been continuously updated.  You could explore coderot as a theme, which programmers would find interesting and non-programmers need to learn about
[2023-12-14 22:55:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but let's not forget that TRON is not only a character in the movie, but as a program there's no need for him to grow old, if he's been continuously updated.  You could explore coderot as a theme, which programmers would find interesting and non-programmers need to learn about
[2023-12-14 22:56:30] <Lucifer_arma> the movie doesn't predate coderot as a phenomenon, but platforms were changing so quickly when the movie came out that even though coderot was already a thing, it wasn't significant enough to have made it into the movie
[2023-12-14 22:56:30] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| the movie doesn't predate coderot as a phenomenon, but platforms were changing so quickly when the movie came out that even though coderot was already a thing, it wasn't significant enough to have made it into the movie
[2023-12-14 22:57:48] <Lucifer_arma> you can also project out from the current wave a fascist sentiment sweeping the western world and have the world be under a fascist system.  Then TRON could be part of a revolution that's happening both in the real world and on the internet
[2023-12-14 22:57:48] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you can also project out from the current wave a fascist sentiment sweeping the western world and have the world be under a fascist system.  Then TRON could be part of a revolution that's happening both in the real world and on the internet
[2023-12-14 22:58:28] <Lucifer_arma> that could give you a wonderful action-packed climax where TRON and whatever team he assembles (mix of users and programs, of course) go up against the Big Bad for the future of all mankind
[2023-12-14 22:58:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| that could give you a wonderful action-packed climax where TRON and whatever team he assembles (mix of users and programs, of course) go up against the Big Bad for the future of all mankind
[2023-12-14 22:59:24] <Lucifer_arma> If you went the hologram route, I'd give TRON powers that correspond to being a hologram.  So while he could do things like shoot lightning bolts/magic missiles at programs, he could also throw arbitrary holograms around that can fool users
[2023-12-14 22:59:25] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| If you went the hologram route, I'd give TRON powers that correspond to being a hologram.  So while he could do things like shoot lightning bolts/magic missiles at programs, he could also throw arbitrary holograms around that can fool users
[2023-12-14 22:59:37] <Lucifer_arma> maybe even give him some transformation abilities
[2023-12-14 22:59:37] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| maybe even give him some transformation abilities
[2023-12-14 22:59:57] <Lucifer_arma> I'll stop there, before I decide to write the story myself :)
[2023-12-14 22:59:58] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll stop there, before I decide to write the story myself :)
[2023-12-14 23:00:08] * Lucifer_arma already has too many story commitments
[2023-12-14 23:00:08] * armagetronbridge 10irc:Lucifer_arma| already has too many story commitments
[2023-12-14 23:01:34] <Lucifer_arma> ok, one more thing.  the all powerful user (Flynn in the movie) that manages to digitize himself and then get back to the real world the same way the programs do it would have both powers of the real world and of the computer world, and he'd be able to mix the two
[2023-12-14 23:01:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, one more thing.  the all powerful user (Flynn in the movie) that manages to digitize himself and then get back to the real world the same way the programs do it would have both powers of the real world and of the computer world, and he'd be able to mix the two
[2023-12-14 23:01:55] <Lucifer_arma> so if TRON can shoot lightning bolts at programs, the New Flynn would be able to shoot lightning bolts at real people and buildings and cars and shit
[2023-12-14 23:01:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| so if TRON can shoot lightning bolts at programs, the New Flynn would be able to shoot lightning bolts at real people and buildings and cars and shit
[2023-12-14 23:02:50] <Lucifer_arma> you'd have to give him a suitable villain pair the complements the TRON/New Flynn pairing so the action-packed climax would be really great
[2023-12-14 23:02:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| you'd have to give him a suitable villain pair the complements the TRON/New Flynn pairing so the action-packed climax would be really great
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