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[2024-05-01 00:24:35] <Lucifer_arma_> The Ice Pirates is a fantastic movie.  It's ridiculous as all get out, but that's part of what makes it so great
[2024-05-01 00:24:35] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| The Ice Pirates is a fantastic movie.  It's ridiculous as all get out, but that's part of what makes it so great
[2024-05-01 08:15:22] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:chumpass| "everytime you double bind God kills a kitten" - some dude I played in Deathmatch
[2024-05-01 08:15:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:chumpass| "everytime you double bind God kills a kitten" - some dude I played in Deathmatch
[2024-05-01 08:38:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's a default quick chat lol
[2024-05-01 08:38:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's a default quick chat lol
[2024-05-01 08:41:14] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:chumpass| Thats funny lmao
[2024-05-01 08:41:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:chumpass| Thats funny lmao
[2024-05-01 08:41:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:chumpass| I was so confused
[2024-05-01 08:41:33] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:chumpass| I was so confused
[2024-05-01 08:42:07] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Thought he was sending messages from God?
[2024-05-01 08:42:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Thought he was sending messages from God?
[2024-05-01 08:43:53] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:chumpass| Wasn't sure if he was just salty or just making a joke because he had left immediately afterward
[2024-05-01 08:43:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:chumpass| Wasn't sure if he was just salty or just making a joke because he had left immediately afterward
[2024-05-01 08:44:07] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| I know when they hit the only idiots keep default Insta chats I know they bout to rage quit
[2024-05-01 08:44:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| I know when they hit the only idiots keep default Insta chats I know they bout to rage quit
[2024-05-01 08:44:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| It's where your making them rage quit and they just smashing keys to close out
[2024-05-01 08:44:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| It's where your making them rage quit and they just smashing keys to close out
[2024-05-01 08:44:52] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:chumpass| lol
[2024-05-01 08:44:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:chumpass| lol
[2024-05-01 08:45:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Sometimes people hit em just to be funny
[2024-05-01 08:45:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Sometimes people hit em just to be funny
[2024-05-01 08:45:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| But id say 80% is the first one lol
[2024-05-01 08:45:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| But id say 80% is the first one lol
[2024-05-01 13:28:02] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Yeah, at least everyone interesting enough to remember dies 🙂 Apart from the local guy going out to look for help, I don't remember any survivors.
[2024-05-01 13:28:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 12discord:zman_0| Yeah, at least everyone interesting enough to remember dies 🙂 Apart from the local guy going out to look for help, I don't remember any survivors.
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[2024-05-02 07:37:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| So I found out something interesting. I pay for a static IP address, which, when in the context of IPv4, means a single IP address that points to me, and me alone. 
[2024-05-02 07:37:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| So I found out something interesting. I pay for a static IP address, which, when in the context of IPv4, means a single IP address that points to me, and me alone. 
[2024-05-02 07:37:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the IPv6 address I pay for is not, in fact a single IP. 
[2024-05-02 07:37:46] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the IPv6 address I pay for is not, in fact a single IP. 
[2024-05-02 07:37:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| It's a whole *block*
[2024-05-02 07:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's a whole *block*
[2024-05-02 07:37:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I have SO MANY endpoints
[2024-05-02 07:37:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I have SO MANY endpoints
[2024-05-02 07:38:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I don't know what to do with it all!
[2024-05-02 07:38:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I don't know what to do with it all!

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[2024-05-03 21:37:51] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:lontm| @lvlr.grilvllvl let’s 1v1 in the classic sub
[2024-05-03 21:37:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:lontm| @lvlr.grilvllvl let’s 1v1 in the classic sub
[2024-05-03 21:42:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| The classic sub US or classic sub EU?
[2024-05-03 21:42:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| The classic sub US or classic sub EU?
[2024-05-03 21:43:57] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| @lontm. Can't 1v1 right now ... Cause I'm at work .. But soon enough I'll be home
[2024-05-03 21:43:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| @lontm. Can't 1v1 right now ... Cause I'm at work .. But soon enough I'll be home

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[2024-05-04 00:18:05] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| @lontm. You still wanting to 1v1 or no lol
[2024-05-04 00:18:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| @lontm. You still wanting to 1v1 or no lol
[2024-05-04 00:34:38] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:lontm| Sure
[2024-05-04 00:34:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:lontm| Sure
[2024-05-04 00:34:47] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:lontm| @lvlr.grilvllvl
[2024-05-04 00:34:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:lontm| @lvlr.grilvllvl
[2024-05-04 00:36:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| I'm in lava right now
[2024-05-04 00:36:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| I'm in lava right now
[2024-05-04 02:51:19] <Lucifer_arma> my floor is lava
[2024-05-04 02:51:19] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| my floor is lava
[2024-05-04 07:28:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i think we should rule out commitment for now cause we’re falling apart
[2024-05-04 07:28:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i think we should rule out commitment for now cause we’re falling apart
[2024-05-04 09:13:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| who put up the best recorded sbt performance of all time
[2024-05-04 09:13:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| who put up the best recorded sbt performance of all time
[2024-05-04 09:14:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| it was probably xy but which one
[2024-05-04 09:14:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| it was probably xy but which one
[2024-05-04 15:25:24] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:sigmankey| is there a way to change the amount of rubber in local
[2024-05-04 15:25:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:sigmankey| is there a way to change the amount of rubber in local
[2024-05-04 15:28:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| you can either open the console and do `CYCLE_RUBBER X` or in chat `/admin CYCLE_RUBBER X`
[2024-05-04 15:28:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| you can either open the console and do `CYCLE_RUBBER X` or in chat `/admin CYCLE_RUBBER X`
[2024-05-04 16:23:48] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| in a local game it would be /console
[2024-05-04 16:23:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| in a local game it would be /console
[2024-05-04 20:04:16] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:chubbyboy13| how do i join a game😭
[2024-05-04 20:04:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:chubbyboy13| how do i join a game😭
[2024-05-04 20:17:08] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:chubbyboy13| /
[2024-05-04 20:17:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:chubbyboy13| /
[2024-05-04 20:39:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Did you get help with that?
[2024-05-04 20:39:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Did you get help with that?
[2024-05-04 20:39:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Guessing so nvm
[2024-05-04 20:39:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Guessing so nvm
[2024-05-04 20:43:39] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:chubbyboy13| Ya I did lol
[2024-05-04 20:43:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:chubbyboy13| Ya I did lol
[2024-05-04 20:43:43] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:chubbyboy13| Ty guys
[2024-05-04 20:43:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:chubbyboy13| Ty guys
[2024-05-04 20:46:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| @chubbyboy13 ty for the game!
[2024-05-04 20:46:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| @chubbyboy13 ty for the game!
[2024-05-04 20:47:11] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:chubbyboy13| Ty for letting me play
[2024-05-04 20:47:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:chubbyboy13| Ty for letting me play
[2024-05-04 20:53:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| you did great! not many can say their first game was a pickup game
[2024-05-04 20:53:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| you did great! not many can say their first game was a pickup game

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[2024-05-05 12:31:10] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:chubbyboy13| thank you lol
[2024-05-05 12:31:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:chubbyboy13| thank you lol
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[2024-05-06 02:58:25] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| ah yes, years ago you could get ipv4 blocks as a isp, i guess since ipv6 is more "infinite" you get more access for free, you could use it to host multiple devices exposed to the web on different domains, thats kinda the purpose of it, no? obviously properly protected with a firewall or closed ports
[2024-05-06 02:58:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:juesto| ah yes, years ago you could get ipv4 blocks as a isp, i guess since ipv6 is more "infinite" you get more access for free, you could use it to host multiple devices exposed to the web on different domains, thats kinda the purpose of it, no? obviously properly protected with a firewall or closed ports
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[2024-05-06 11:23:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Yeah multiple endpoints is the objective. I think I need a better router to make use of it though, at the moment I have a very consumery Fritz! Box. 
[2024-05-06 11:23:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Yeah multiple endpoints is the objective. I think I need a better router to make use of it though, at the moment I have a very consumery Fritz! Box. 
[2024-05-06 11:23:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Once I have a proper network switch I'll start looking at putting all my homelab stuff on a single machin eunder Xen, then use the other usff machine as a proper router with... something. I'm actually not too familiar with networking OSes atm ngl
[2024-05-06 11:23:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Once I have a proper network switch I'll start looking at putting all my homelab stuff on a single machin eunder Xen, then use the other usff machine as a proper router with... something. I'm actually not too familiar with networking OSes atm ngl
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[2024-05-06 14:28:51] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| @vllis Monarki here. so, what would you like to have translated?
[2024-05-06 14:28:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| @vllis Monarki here. so, what would you like to have translated?
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[2024-05-06 16:45:42] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| hey, @syn_acc!  do you know that if you have Armagetron Authority available for public registration then you could request a shorthand URL, e.g. `@syntron`. 🙂 just request armaops about!
[2024-05-06 16:45:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| hey, @syn_acc!  do you know that if you have Armagetron Authority available for public registration then you could request a shorthand URL, e.g. `@syntron`. 🙂 just request armaops about!
[2024-05-06 17:16:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yeah i saw this thank you!
[2024-05-06 17:16:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yeah i saw this thank you!
[2024-05-06 17:17:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i have plans, i want to link it up with the discord auth im building to make an easier experience from discord-> in game login
[2024-05-06 17:17:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i have plans, i want to link it up with the discord auth im building to make an easier experience from discord-> in game login
[2024-05-06 17:18:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| as of now it’s not really compliant as the spec describes
[2024-05-06 17:18:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| as of now it’s not really compliant as the spec describes
[2024-05-06 17:18:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| idk who actually manages the DNS to auth server mappings though
[2024-05-06 17:18:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| idk who actually manages the DNS to auth server mappings though
[2024-05-06 17:18:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| is that a zman thing?
[2024-05-06 17:18:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| is that a zman thing?
[2024-05-06 17:24:35] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| could be, or Guru3 or others 😛 no idea.
[2024-05-06 17:24:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:ℜ𝔢𝔱𝔯𝔬:Player51| could be, or Guru3 or others 😛 no idea.
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[2024-05-06 18:10:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| pretty sure shorthand auths are a tank thing. Although when I last attempted to create a nice shiny new shorthand auth, I was summarily denied (grumble grumble). The reasoning was mostly down to there already being `@lt`, `@rx` (at the time), and one or two more besides the forums. idk, there may be more scope for it now - although for the love of all that is holy, *please* do no <clipped message>
[2024-05-06 18:10:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| pretty sure shorthand auths are a tank thing. Although when I last attempted to create a nice shiny new shorthand auth, I was summarily denied (grumble grumble). The reasoning was mostly down to there already being `@lt`, `@rx` (at the time), and one or two more besides the forums. idk, there may be more scope for it now - although for the love of all that is holy, *please* do no <clipped message>
[2024-05-06 18:10:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| t link Discord oath tokens to tron!
[2024-05-06 18:10:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| t link Discord oath tokens to tron!
[2024-05-06 18:10:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| not that you could at the moment anyway, the requirements for tron auth are md5 and plain http... um
[2024-05-06 18:10:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| not that you could at the moment anyway, the requirements for tron auth are md5 and plain http... um
[2024-05-06 18:11:07] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| salted md5
[2024-05-06 18:11:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| salted md5
[2024-05-06 18:11:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| incidentally, @zman_0 libs for ssl are pretty small rn, not to mention computers are a whole heap more powerful. I'm not sure the arguments against ssl libs still apply
[2024-05-06 18:11:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| incidentally, @zman_0 libs for ssl are pretty small rn, not to mention computers are a whole heap more powerful. I'm not sure the arguments against ssl libs still apply
[2024-05-06 18:11:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @wwnelg makes no difference, honestly. It's still md5
[2024-05-06 18:11:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| @wwnelg makes no difference, honestly. It's still md5
[2024-05-06 18:12:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but ssl would be a good start imo
[2024-05-06 18:12:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| but ssl would be a good start imo
[2024-05-06 18:12:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I did have designs on a script that could intercept login requests locally and redirect them over a python-in-the-middle webserver, but I don't think it can really wok in practise
[2024-05-06 18:12:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I did have designs on a script that could intercept login requests locally and redirect them over a python-in-the-middle webserver, but I don't think it can really wok in practise
[2024-05-06 18:15:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| the discord oauth tokens would link to a user that would link to a salted md5 token… what’s the problem?
[2024-05-06 18:15:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| the discord oauth tokens would link to a user that would link to a salted md5 token… what’s the problem?
[2024-05-06 18:16:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| you're looking for single-password-auth right
[2024-05-06 18:16:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| you're looking for single-password-auth right
[2024-05-06 18:16:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| not really
[2024-05-06 18:16:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| not really
[2024-05-06 18:17:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| either way i’d have to generate credentials specific for in game login, independent of the discord auth status
[2024-05-06 18:17:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| either way i’d have to generate credentials specific for in game login, independent of the discord auth status
[2024-05-06 18:17:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh right
[2024-05-06 18:17:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| oh right
[2024-05-06 18:17:28] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I thought you wanted to authenticate users in-game with discord tokens
[2024-05-06 18:17:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I thought you wanted to authenticate users in-game with discord tokens
[2024-05-06 18:17:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| asking users to get their discord tokens isn’t great UX 😛
[2024-05-06 18:17:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| asking users to get their discord tokens isn’t great UX 😛
[2024-05-06 18:18:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya, at some point you'd need them to enter their discord password too
[2024-05-06 18:18:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ya, at some point you'd need them to enter their discord password too
[2024-05-06 18:18:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| which... yeah no
[2024-05-06 18:18:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| which... yeah no
[2024-05-06 18:19:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| just a regular oauth2 flow… that’s working already i’m just too lazy to finish the rest
[2024-05-06 18:19:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| just a regular oauth2 flow… that’s working already i’m just too lazy to finish the rest
[2024-05-06 18:19:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i’ll get to it this week
[2024-05-06 18:19:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i’ll get to it this week
[2024-05-06 18:20:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I don't understand the purpose then. Is it to link discord members with in-game IDs?
[2024-05-06 18:20:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I don't understand the purpose then. Is it to link discord members with in-game IDs?
[2024-05-06 18:20:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yep, and to give a better onboarding experience
[2024-05-06 18:20:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yep, and to give a better onboarding experience
[2024-05-06 18:20:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| in my subjective experience
[2024-05-06 18:20:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| in my subjective experience
[2024-05-06 18:21:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| sending kids to the forums and other places to make logins has been awkward
[2024-05-06 18:21:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| sending kids to the forums and other places to make logins has been awkward
[2024-05-06 18:21:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| So how do they know what credentials to use in-game?
[2024-05-06 18:21:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| So how do they know what credentials to use in-game?
[2024-05-06 18:21:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i’m thinking about ways of either generating ones initially that must be changed
[2024-05-06 18:21:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i’m thinking about ways of either generating ones initially that must be changed
[2024-05-06 18:21:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| or creating some token to type in game in a server to link that GID
[2024-05-06 18:21:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| or creating some token to type in game in a server to link that GID
[2024-05-06 18:21:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| What about usernames?
[2024-05-06 18:21:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| What about usernames?
[2024-05-06 18:21:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| just use the discord usernames?
[2024-05-06 18:21:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| just use the discord usernames?
[2024-05-06 18:22:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yeah or whatever the jwt has
[2024-05-06 18:22:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yeah or whatever the jwt has
[2024-05-06 18:22:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i also have google login
[2024-05-06 18:22:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i also have google login
[2024-05-06 18:23:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| hmmm. There's another issue with this, whcih is the crossover between open-source, and proprietary. Armagetron is about as FOSS as you can get, so implementing proprietary solutions might not go down so well
[2024-05-06 18:23:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| hmmm. There's another issue with this, whcih is the crossover between open-source, and proprietary. Armagetron is about as FOSS as you can get, so implementing proprietary solutions might not go down so well
[2024-05-06 18:23:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm aware of the irony of saying that whilst using a proprietary platform, but that's what the IRC bridge is for
[2024-05-06 18:23:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I'm aware of the irony of saying that whilst using a proprietary platform, but that's what the IRC bridge is for
[2024-05-06 18:24:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| what about my solution is proprietary
[2024-05-06 18:24:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| what about my solution is proprietary
[2024-05-06 18:24:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| all my code is FOSS too
[2024-05-06 18:24:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| all my code is FOSS too
[2024-05-06 18:24:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| auth is just auth
[2024-05-06 18:24:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| auth is just auth
[2024-05-06 18:24:46] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| No, Discord is proprietary
[2024-05-06 18:24:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| No, Discord is proprietary
[2024-05-06 18:25:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| but the standards the auth protocols adhere to aren’t
[2024-05-06 18:25:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| but the standards the auth protocols adhere to aren’t
[2024-05-06 18:26:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the *output* of the auth procedure matches the open source spec yes, but that doesn't guarantee that the implementation is proper. I mean, it *probably* is, but ye
[2024-05-06 18:26:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| the *output* of the auth procedure matches the open source spec yes, but that doesn't guarantee that the implementation is proper. I mean, it *probably* is, but ye
[2024-05-06 18:26:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| and i’m still gonna support standard email password
[2024-05-06 18:26:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| and i’m still gonna support standard email password
[2024-05-06 18:26:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh, we also have `@wiki` now
[2024-05-06 18:26:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Oh, we also have `@wiki` now
[2024-05-06 18:27:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| but yeah, I wouldn't say *don't* do it, but I'd rather avoid discord's 0auth altogether and just prompt a new user to create a login
[2024-05-06 18:27:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| but yeah, I wouldn't say *don't* do it, but I'd rather avoid discord's 0auth altogether and just prompt a new user to create a login
[2024-05-06 18:28:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| also thinking further down the line at just mapping discord ids to players
[2024-05-06 18:28:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| also thinking further down the line at just mapping discord ids to players
[2024-05-06 18:28:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| makes balancing and stuff lots easier
[2024-05-06 18:28:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| makes balancing and stuff lots easier
[2024-05-06 18:29:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| right now i guess there’s a fairly esoteric mapping somewhere that does fort balancing
[2024-05-06 18:29:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| right now i guess there’s a fairly esoteric mapping somewhere that does fort balancing
[2024-05-06 18:30:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| you could even do it in-server - Rinzler already does *some* onboarding stuff, so you could contribute some code that the user can engage with in PMs that creates them a new in-game login via prompts. If you wanna then add the discord ID of that individual, that's fine - you don't even have to touch 0auth for it
[2024-05-06 18:30:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| you could even do it in-server - Rinzler already does *some* onboarding stuff, so you could contribute some code that the user can engage with in PMs that creates them a new in-game login via prompts. If you wanna then add the discord ID of that individual, that's fine - you don't even have to touch 0auth for it
[2024-05-06 18:30:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| since rinzler will already know the discord ID of the user from the message journey, that's a lto easier
[2024-05-06 18:30:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| since rinzler will already know the discord ID of the user from the message journey, that's a lto easier
[2024-05-06 18:31:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| since it's quite literally `message.user.id` or something thereabouts
[2024-05-06 18:31:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| since it's quite literally `message.user.id` or something thereabouts
[2024-05-06 18:31:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| >  do it in-server
[2024-05-06 18:31:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| By which I mean in the discord server, not in-game
[2024-05-06 18:31:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| >  do it in-server
[2024-05-06 18:31:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| By which I mean in the discord server, not in-game
[2024-05-06 18:32:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| that’s a nice idea
[2024-05-06 18:32:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| that’s a nice idea
[2024-05-06 18:33:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya Rinzler is super simple stuff too
[2024-05-06 18:33:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ya Rinzler is super simple stuff too
[2024-05-06 19:39:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| i have a spreadsheet with users' nick, auth, and discord ID but i havent really updated it in years as its independent of my bot. i shared access with nanu at one point idk if hes updated either
[2024-05-06 19:39:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:anjo3060| i have a spreadsheet with users' nick, auth, and discord ID but i havent really updated it in years as its independent of my bot. i shared access with nanu at one point idk if hes updated either
[2024-05-06 19:49:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ya, it's prolly worth creating a universal source for this sorta thing. I have an idea on that too
[2024-05-06 19:49:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Ya, it's prolly worth creating a universal source for this sorta thing. I have an idea on that too
[2024-05-06 20:33:15] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| I wanna write a server
[2024-05-06 20:33:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| I wanna write a server
[2024-05-06 20:33:28] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Is that a drunk good idea or just a regular good idea
[2024-05-06 20:33:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Is that a drunk good idea or just a regular good idea
[2024-05-06 20:35:07] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Ima so it in Go
[2024-05-06 20:35:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Ima so it in Go
[2024-05-06 20:36:05] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Ive always wanted a client that has a more immersive menu tho like something more idlish where you have a character you control with some idly game stuff in between matches
[2024-05-06 20:36:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Ive always wanted a client that has a more immersive menu tho like something more idlish where you have a character you control with some idly game stuff in between matches
[2024-05-06 20:36:21] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| write a server? as in a script or a re-implementation of armagetron
[2024-05-06 20:36:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| write a server? as in a script or a re-implementation of armagetron
[2024-05-06 20:36:30] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Reimplementation
[2024-05-06 20:36:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Reimplementation
[2024-05-06 20:36:52] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| I was looking through some protocol docs recently
[2024-05-06 20:36:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| I was looking through some protocol docs recently
[2024-05-06 20:37:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:magi_cake| We should add ctfs
[2024-05-06 20:37:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:magi_cake| We should add ctfs
[2024-05-06 20:37:44] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| You bet your fuckin arse we should
[2024-05-06 20:37:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| You bet your fuckin arse we should
[2024-05-06 20:38:22] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Cake is an absolute legend
[2024-05-06 20:38:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Cake is an absolute legend
[2024-05-06 20:40:24] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| this was one of the things i tried to do with the armawebtron codebase... i got it sorta working than gave up, but i found it really difficult to figure out what armagetron expects and when
[2024-05-06 20:40:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| this was one of the things i tried to do with the armawebtron codebase... i got it sorta working than gave up, but i found it really difficult to figure out what armagetron expects and when
[2024-05-06 20:41:20] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| With the amount of players it wouldnt be too hard to standardize and refactor if we needed to would it? I can set up a buntu ppa
[2024-05-06 20:41:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| With the amount of players it wouldnt be too hard to standardize and refactor if we needed to would it? I can set up a buntu ppa
[2024-05-06 20:41:41] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Ohhhh you said armawebtron
[2024-05-06 20:41:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Ohhhh you said armawebtron
[2024-05-06 20:42:15] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| I swear a web client i believe still could get us so many new players. We gotta be ready for 2025 when the new movie releases
[2024-05-06 20:42:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| I swear a web client i believe still could get us so many new players. We gotta be ready for 2025 when the new movie releases
[2024-05-06 20:42:29] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Thats what i wanted to focus on a couple years ago. Code n marketing
[2024-05-06 20:42:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Thats what i wanted to focus on a couple years ago. Code n marketing
[2024-05-06 20:44:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Tron can run in a browser as-is, it was packaged by someone years ago and ran just fine in IE...8(?)
[2024-05-06 20:44:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Tron can run in a browser as-is, it was packaged by someone years ago and ran just fine in IE...8(?)
[2024-05-06 20:44:39] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| U talking web asm? Ew
[2024-05-06 20:44:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| U talking web asm? Ew
[2024-05-06 20:44:52] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Absolutely not
[2024-05-06 20:44:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Absolutely not
[2024-05-06 20:45:09] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| really? how have i never seen this
[2024-05-06 20:45:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| really? how have i never seen this
[2024-05-06 20:45:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly, I though tit was you that had done it
[2024-05-06 20:45:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly, I though tit was you that had done it
[2024-05-06 20:45:47] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i mean, there's this https://armawebtron.github.io/
[2024-05-06 20:45:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| i mean, there's this https://armawebtron.github.io/
[2024-05-06 20:45:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The browser package had one or two issues mind you. This was early web-app era
[2024-05-06 20:45:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| The browser package had one or two issues mind you. This was early web-app era
[2024-05-06 20:45:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no no
[2024-05-06 20:45:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| no no
[2024-05-06 20:46:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the complete armagetron desktop appliocatoon
[2024-05-06 20:46:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| the complete armagetron desktop appliocatoon
[2024-05-06 20:46:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| "apliocatoon" what
[2024-05-06 20:46:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| "apliocatoon" what
[2024-05-06 20:46:38] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Nelg do not get distracted we gotta figure out the protocol
[2024-05-06 20:46:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Nelg do not get distracted we gotta figure out the protocol
[2024-05-06 20:47:05] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| I will help if i can. Dont give up 😭
[2024-05-06 20:47:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| I will help if i can. Dont give up 😭
[2024-05-06 20:47:20] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Im loading up the pc rn
[2024-05-06 20:47:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Im loading up the pc rn
[2024-05-06 20:49:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Prolly not webassembly, tbh. This was maybe 2012 or so
[2024-05-06 20:49:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Prolly not webassembly, tbh. This was maybe 2012 or so
[2024-05-06 20:51:50] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| I thought emscripten existed then because a bunchhh of people tried to build their apps for the web and it didnt help their communities
[2024-05-06 20:51:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| I thought emscripten existed then because a bunchhh of people tried to build their apps for the web and it didnt help their communities
[2024-05-06 20:52:01] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| I may be mistaken
[2024-05-06 20:52:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| I may be mistaken
[2024-05-06 20:52:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Meh. I doubt I'll find it now, web searching is crippled by shitty LLM stuff and general idiots on the internet
[2024-05-06 20:52:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Meh. I doubt I'll find it now, web searching is crippled by shitty LLM stuff and general idiots on the internet
[2024-05-06 20:53:10] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| truu
[2024-05-06 20:53:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| truu
[2024-05-06 20:53:32] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| @wwnelg where did you get hung up with the protocol
[2024-05-06 20:53:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| @wwnelg where did you get hung up with the protocol
[2024-05-06 20:58:50] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| uh from what i remember, i got it mostly working as in an armagetron client can connect to the armawebtron server and sort of play, but it sort of breaks when multiple clients are connected and some clients do not receive objects like they are supposed to... so i guess i gave up trying to fix bugs in my implementation rather than the protocol necessarily
[2024-05-06 20:58:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| uh from what i remember, i got it mostly working as in an armagetron client can connect to the armawebtron server and sort of play, but it sort of breaks when multiple clients are connected and some clients do not receive objects like they are supposed to... so i guess i gave up trying to fix bugs in my implementation rather than the protocol necessarily
[2024-05-06 20:58:58] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| but ill fire it all up again and mess with it
[2024-05-06 20:58:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| but ill fire it all up again and mess with it
[2024-05-06 21:01:01] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| A solid web client is the future
[2024-05-06 21:01:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| A solid web client is the future
[2024-05-06 21:01:23] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| I still want to do a server but idk if it would be a good use of time
[2024-05-06 21:01:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| I still want to do a server but idk if it would be a good use of time
[2024-05-06 21:01:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| If armagetron moved to a web client, I'd stop playing
[2024-05-06 21:01:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| If armagetron moved to a web client, I'd stop playing
[2024-05-06 21:01:39] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| oh and also iirc the electron armawebtron client in armagetron mode isn't able to connect to the armawebtron armagetron server LOL
[2024-05-06 21:01:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| oh and also iirc the electron armawebtron client in armagetron mode isn't able to connect to the armawebtron armagetron server LOL
[2024-05-06 21:02:28] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| @northernscrub well yeah but rly theres a huge player base looking for new io web games and it could lead to interesting things. I've seen many people start playing a game and beg for a native client but the devs never got to it
[2024-05-06 21:02:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| @northernscrub well yeah but rly theres a huge player base looking for new io web games and it could lead to interesting things. I've seen many people start playing a game and beg for a native client but the devs never got to it
[2024-05-06 21:02:42] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| just a marketing ploy really
[2024-05-06 21:02:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| just a marketing ploy really
[2024-05-06 21:03:11] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| which as u can tell we need as no one plays ctfs anymore
[2024-05-06 21:03:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| which as u can tell we need as no one plays ctfs anymore
[2024-05-06 21:04:00] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| long term goal is invest a lot of time and money into getting new players to ultimately addctfs
[2024-05-06 21:04:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| long term goal is invest a lot of time and money into getting new players to ultimately addctfs
[2024-05-06 21:04:11] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| hence the name
[2024-05-06 21:04:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| hence the name
[2024-05-06 21:04:20] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| we talking about playing the game through a web browser? Like a flash game? lol
[2024-05-06 21:04:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| we talking about playing the game through a web browser? Like a flash game? lol
[2024-05-06 21:05:10] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| think big man. who plays web io games? 12 year olds. When they get competitive and age up a bit, they want native clients for performance and functionality
[2024-05-06 21:05:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| think big man. who plays web io games? 12 year olds. When they get competitive and age up a bit, they want native clients for performance and functionality
[2024-05-06 21:06:01] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| we get the youth and boom we got another decade of active ctfs servers
[2024-05-06 21:06:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| we get the youth and boom we got another decade of active ctfs servers
[2024-05-06 21:06:33] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| also the money can be ridiculous
[2024-05-06 21:06:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| also the money can be ridiculous
[2024-05-06 21:06:47] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| which we can pump back into marketing ctfs servers
[2024-05-06 21:06:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| which we can pump back into marketing ctfs servers
[2024-05-06 21:08:01] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I dont know what that even is
[2024-05-06 21:08:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I dont know what that even is
[2024-05-06 21:08:32] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| well in terms of just having a web client, messing with armawebtron as a server is a bit silly... i think it would be better to hack on websockets support (or whatever other options there are) to armagetron's server, and get armawebtron connecting to that
[2024-05-06 21:08:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| well in terms of just having a web client, messing with armawebtron as a server is a bit silly... i think it would be better to hack on websockets support (or whatever other options there are) to armagetron's server, and get armawebtron connecting to that
[2024-05-06 21:08:57] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| I think I could whip up websocket support in a weekend
[2024-05-06 21:08:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| I think I could whip up websocket support in a weekend
[2024-05-06 21:09:13] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| but sure I think anything that brings new players is a good idea if it works. As they say its not stupid if it works
[2024-05-06 21:09:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| but sure I think anything that brings new players is a good idea if it works. As they say its not stupid if it works
[2024-05-06 21:10:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Damn I was 13 when I first played this game, ages ago lol
[2024-05-06 21:10:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Damn I was 13 when I first played this game, ages ago lol
[2024-05-06 21:12:24] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| Wait @wwnelg what are you doing now for a server?
[2024-05-06 21:12:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| Wait @wwnelg what are you doing now for a server?
[2024-05-06 21:16:58] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| if you mean the barely-functional server/client system exclusively for armawebtron, that is using websockets
[2024-05-06 21:16:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| if you mean the barely-functional server/client system exclusively for armawebtron, that is using websockets
[2024-05-06 21:18:16] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| if you mean the stuff involving armagetron, that has to be udp
[2024-05-06 21:18:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| if you mean the stuff involving armagetron, that has to be udp
[2024-05-06 21:18:28] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| at least right now
[2024-05-06 21:18:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| at least right now
[2024-05-06 21:20:09] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| yea gonna need some tweaking to get it working over websockets
[2024-05-06 21:20:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| yea gonna need some tweaking to get it working over websockets
[2024-05-06 21:20:19] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| could go webrtc too
[2024-05-06 21:20:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| could go webrtc too
[2024-05-06 21:20:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| idk whats going to happen if I just proxy all that data over to websockets
[2024-05-06 21:20:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| idk whats going to happen if I just proxy all that data over to websockets
[2024-05-06 21:21:09] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| when the original setup expects lossy
[2024-05-06 21:21:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| when the original setup expects lossy
[2024-05-06 21:23:34] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| yeah there's a lot of stuff to be trimmed out if we're going TCP
[2024-05-06 21:23:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| yeah there's a lot of stuff to be trimmed out if we're going TCP
[2024-05-06 21:29:29] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| well probably only the acks tbh
[2024-05-06 21:29:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| well probably only the acks tbh
[2024-05-06 21:29:39] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| because that would be completely redundant
[2024-05-06 21:29:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| because that would be completely redundant
[2024-05-06 21:29:45] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| otherwise i'm sure it would work
[2024-05-06 21:29:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| otherwise i'm sure it would work

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[2024-05-07 02:05:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| this guy speaks my language
[2024-05-07 02:05:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| this guy speaks my language
[2024-05-07 02:05:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| accessibility is the way forward
[2024-05-07 02:05:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| accessibility is the way forward
[2024-05-07 02:05:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| even if we have biased opinions about how the game should be truly enjoyed
[2024-05-07 02:05:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| even if we have biased opinions about how the game should be truly enjoyed
[2024-05-07 02:06:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| nobody onboards kids as well as other kids. just gotta start the cycle somewhere. now they all just leave 😭
[2024-05-07 02:06:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| nobody onboards kids as well as other kids. just gotta start the cycle somewhere. now they all just leave 😭
[2024-05-07 03:05:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| so that means some of us have to make sacrifices in the form of creating content we wouldnt normally personally consume
[2024-05-07 03:05:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| so that means some of us have to make sacrifices in the form of creating content we wouldnt normally personally consume
[2024-05-07 03:05:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| ranging from tiktoks about the highlights of the more abstract skill expressions
[2024-05-07 03:05:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| ranging from tiktoks about the highlights of the more abstract skill expressions
[2024-05-07 03:05:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| all the way to making a web client to mimic a .io style of game
[2024-05-07 03:05:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| all the way to making a web client to mimic a .io style of game
[2024-05-07 03:06:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| nothing stopping us from filling a web client with "better experience via download!"
[2024-05-07 03:06:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| nothing stopping us from filling a web client with "better experience via download!"
[2024-05-07 03:07:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| could you share it? or put it somewhere open source and accessible?
[2024-05-07 03:07:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| could you share it? or put it somewhere open source and accessible?
[2024-05-07 09:53:13] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Too bad we don't have a viral YouTuber/streamer to promote the game. That always works
[2024-05-07 09:53:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Too bad we don't have a viral YouTuber/streamer to promote the game. That always works
[2024-05-07 10:29:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| we're working on that
[2024-05-07 10:29:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| we're working on that
[2024-05-07 14:17:45] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:jodra33| @justkoala
[2024-05-07 14:17:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:jodra33| @justkoala
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[2024-05-07 22:51:54] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| any ctf servers running?
[2024-05-07 22:51:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| any ctf servers running?
[2024-05-07 22:52:00] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:addctfs| got a couple folks trying to play
[2024-05-07 22:52:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:addctfs| got a couple folks trying to play

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[2024-05-08 07:45:18] -!- platinum.libera.chat set mode #armagetron +nt
[2024-05-08 07:45:18] -!- Channel #armagetron created on 2021-05-20 17:23:14 UTC
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[2024-05-08 08:14:23] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:portabirre| someone wanna play?
[2024-05-08 08:14:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 11discord:portabirre| someone wanna play?
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[2024-05-08 09:56:20] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| Who tryna play some styball
[2024-05-08 09:56:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| Who tryna play some styball
[2024-05-08 10:32:56] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| @therealdock. Planning on getting wrecked again? Lol
[2024-05-08 10:32:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| @therealdock. Planning on getting wrecked again? Lol
[2024-05-08 10:34:35] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| lol I want to get good so I can shit on player 1
[2024-05-08 10:34:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| lol I want to get good so I can shit on player 1
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[2024-05-08 11:03:06] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Lol
[2024-05-08 11:03:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Lol
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[2024-05-08 15:10:19] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:xirlord_57543| yea im quitting again
[2024-05-08 15:10:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:xirlord_57543| yea im quitting again
[2024-05-08 15:13:26] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:xirlord_57543| so annoying man
[2024-05-08 15:13:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:xirlord_57543| so annoying man
[2024-05-08 15:29:49] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:daqwankoenig| did yall see xqc just did a stream where he reacted to a tron stream
[2024-05-08 15:29:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:daqwankoenig| did yall see xqc just did a stream where he reacted to a tron stream
[2024-05-08 15:31:51] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3QvJiyn0b8 this one? or a new one?
[2024-05-08 15:31:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 11discord:Deso| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3QvJiyn0b8 this one? or a new one?
[2024-05-08 15:48:31] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:daqwankoenig| yes i think thats it i just saw it come up on my yt shorts
[2024-05-08 15:48:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:daqwankoenig| yes i think thats it i just saw it come up on my yt shorts
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[2024-05-09 06:23:40] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| hello
[2024-05-09 06:23:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| hello
[2024-05-09 06:48:01] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| what's double binding?
[2024-05-09 06:48:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| what's double binding?
[2024-05-09 06:48:14] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| is it binding two actions on one button?
[2024-05-09 06:48:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| is it binding two actions on one button?
[2024-05-09 06:48:23] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| or a double press
[2024-05-09 06:48:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| or a double press
[2024-05-09 07:19:49] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Two keys that do the same function, for instance most players will have at least two left turns and two right turns
[2024-05-09 07:19:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Two keys that do the same function, for instance most players will have at least two left turns and two right turns
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[2024-05-09 10:38:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| connect to server by id where server admins can define slugs and then you can have a console command /console join syns for quick server switching
[2024-05-09 10:38:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| connect to server by id where server admins can define slugs and then you can have a console command /console join syns for quick server switching
[2024-05-09 10:39:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| some kind of armagetron:// protocol where a link can open the game and put you in a server
[2024-05-09 10:39:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| some kind of armagetron:// protocol where a link can open the game and put you in a server
[2024-05-09 10:39:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| some ideas while im buildin
[2024-05-09 10:39:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| some ideas while im buildin
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[2024-05-09 11:47:22] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| that's already a thing
[2024-05-09 11:47:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| that's already a thing
[2024-05-09 11:47:43] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i think its only installed with 0.4 though
[2024-05-09 11:47:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| i think its only installed with 0.4 though
[2024-05-09 11:48:55] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| ok thanks, btw i also found the wiki which is super helpful
[2024-05-09 11:48:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| ok thanks, btw i also found the wiki which is super helpful
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[2024-05-09 12:28:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| do we even recommend 0.4 to new players
[2024-05-09 12:28:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| do we even recommend 0.4 to new players
[2024-05-09 12:33:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i gave my roommate 0.4 and he couldnt find any servers cause they all had "experience recommended" even though hed already played multiple rounds of tst lol
[2024-05-09 12:33:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i gave my roommate 0.4 and he couldnt find any servers cause they all had "experience recommended" even though hed already played multiple rounds of tst lol
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[2024-05-09 13:58:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:magi_cake| There's a line of code you can put in to bypass that, I'm unfamiliar with it
[2024-05-09 13:58:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:magi_cake| There's a line of code you can put in to bypass that, I'm unfamiliar with it
[2024-05-09 13:59:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:magi_cake| I wouldn't recommend .4 to new players as the default cockpit is kind of grimy and the sounds are not great iirc
[2024-05-09 13:59:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:magi_cake| I wouldn't recommend .4 to new players as the default cockpit is kind of grimy and the sounds are not great iirc
[2024-05-09 13:59:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:magi_cake| It's more of a personal preference for seasoned people that want to use advanced customized cockpits I think
[2024-05-09 13:59:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:magi_cake| It's more of a personal preference for seasoned people that want to use advanced customized cockpits I think
[2024-05-09 14:11:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| so having novel ways of connecting isn’t super useful exclusively in a client we only recommend to vets (who likely already have comfortable ways of getting around)
[2024-05-09 14:11:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| so having novel ways of connecting isn’t super useful exclusively in a client we only recommend to vets (who likely already have comfortable ways of getting around)
[2024-05-09 14:18:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i need a way of directing people into a specific server so if i have to recommend 0.4 to be able to do that with an <a> link then i will
[2024-05-09 14:18:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i need a way of directing people into a specific server so if i have to recommend 0.4 to be able to do that with an <a> link then i will
[2024-05-09 14:22:02] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| if it isn't there already it could be backported into the 0.2.9 branch
[2024-05-09 14:22:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| if it isn't there already it could be backported into the 0.2.9 branch
[2024-05-09 14:23:15] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| iirc the experience needed thing is bypassed by setting play time total to some amount, don’t remember how high
[2024-05-09 14:23:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| iirc the experience needed thing is bypassed by setting play time total to some amount, don’t remember how high
[2024-05-09 15:59:40] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| hello @jodra33
[2024-05-09 15:59:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| hello @jodra33
[2024-05-09 18:07:49] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I use . 4 and I don't remember ever seeing the experience needed thing at all. Could it not be in the Linux version?
[2024-05-09 18:07:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I use . 4 and I don't remember ever seeing the experience needed thing at all. Could it not be in the Linux version?
[2024-05-09 18:09:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| new role :POG: where did this come from
[2024-05-09 18:09:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| new role :POG: where did this come from
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[2024-05-10 01:58:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:dinosareyummy| @justkoala ur famous
[2024-05-10 01:58:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:dinosareyummy| @justkoala ur famous
[2024-05-10 02:04:28] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Rx.Luigi (Best LDF Player Ever)| Makes my heart happy that a big streamer finally came across Retrocycles and was amazed at the skill. I hope people see it and give it shot.
[2024-05-10 02:04:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 12discord:Rx.Luigi (Best LDF Player Ever)| Makes my heart happy that a big streamer finally came across Retrocycles and was amazed at the skill. I hope people see it and give it shot.
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[2024-05-10 06:32:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| @northernscrub i believe u with the water but in a way i think thats just a side effect of industrialisation
[2024-05-10 06:32:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| @northernscrub i believe u with the water but in a way i think thats just a side effect of industrialisation
[2024-05-10 06:32:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| best water u can probably get is somewhere where man is nowhere near
[2024-05-10 06:32:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| best water u can probably get is somewhere where man is nowhere near
[2024-05-10 06:33:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| ppl dont drink tap here but i do and meh its fine
[2024-05-10 06:33:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| ppl dont drink tap here but i do and meh its fine
[2024-05-10 06:33:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| student pop in newcastle increasing lots too
[2024-05-10 06:33:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| student pop in newcastle increasing lots too
[2024-05-10 06:33:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| times a changin
[2024-05-10 06:33:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| times a changin
[2024-05-10 06:34:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| nah, it's the source. We're fed off a gorgeous reservoir in Newcastle, but the further south you get the more Kielder water is mixed in. Could have that back to front mind you
[2024-05-10 06:34:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| nah, it's the source. We're fed off a gorgeous reservoir in Newcastle, but the further south you get the more Kielder water is mixed in. Could have that back to front mind you
[2024-05-10 06:34:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Having said all of that
[2024-05-10 06:34:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Having said all of that
[2024-05-10 06:34:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I have some family who live on the seafront in Seaton Carew. The water out of their taps literally tastes like it has been fouled by human waste
[2024-05-10 06:34:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I have some family who live on the seafront in Seaton Carew. The water out of their taps literally tastes like it has been fouled by human waste
[2024-05-10 06:35:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| it probably has lol
[2024-05-10 06:35:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| it probably has lol
[2024-05-10 06:35:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| closer to the sea -> closer to sewage output
[2024-05-10 06:35:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| closer to the sea -> closer to sewage output
[2024-05-10 06:35:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly no, it's perfectly fine, it's just so bloody hard
[2024-05-10 06:35:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly no, it's perfectly fine, it's just so bloody hard
[2024-05-10 06:35:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| hard water is supposedly pretty good for you right with the limestone
[2024-05-10 06:35:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| hard water is supposedly pretty good for you right with the limestone
[2024-05-10 06:35:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I could probably extract enough calcium from a single glass to build a small bone
[2024-05-10 06:35:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I could probably extract enough calcium from a single glass to build a small bone
[2024-05-10 06:36:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ew
[2024-05-10 06:36:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ew
[2024-05-10 06:36:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| no thanks
[2024-05-10 06:36:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| no thanks
[2024-05-10 06:36:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Whats interesting abotu the water in Newcastle is that you can literally taste the difference after it rains
[2024-05-10 06:36:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Whats interesting abotu the water in Newcastle is that you can literally taste the difference after it rains
[2024-05-10 06:36:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it's incredible how fresh it is
[2024-05-10 06:36:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| it's incredible how fresh it is
[2024-05-10 06:36:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| thinking about it
[2024-05-10 06:36:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| thinking about it
[2024-05-10 06:36:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| the water is probably top 5 worst things about london
[2024-05-10 06:36:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| the water is probably top 5 worst things about london
[2024-05-10 06:37:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| the monopoly of thames water is pretty disgusting politically and practically
[2024-05-10 06:37:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| the monopoly of thames water is pretty disgusting politically and practically
[2024-05-10 06:37:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| (thanks tahtcher)
[2024-05-10 06:37:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| (thanks tahtcher)
[2024-05-10 06:37:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Northumbrian water is kinda shit atm too
[2024-05-10 06:37:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Northumbrian water is kinda shit atm too
[2024-05-10 06:37:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yeah not one of her strong points. similar story for electricity and being shoehorned into a single provider
[2024-05-10 06:37:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yeah not one of her strong points. similar story for electricity and being shoehorned into a single provider
[2024-05-10 06:37:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Pay an arm and a leg and still can't swim out at cullercoats
[2024-05-10 06:37:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Pay an arm and a leg and still can't swim out at cullercoats
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[2024-05-10 06:38:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| actually braindead takes thinking something as complicated as water or energy infrastructure could be as competetive as a coffee shop
[2024-05-10 06:38:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| actually braindead takes thinking something as complicated as water or energy infrastructure could be as competetive as a coffee shop
[2024-05-10 06:38:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| hindsight is 20/20 though
[2024-05-10 06:38:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| hindsight is 20/20 though
[2024-05-10 06:38:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Thatcher is part of the reason we took so damn long to get proper fibre in teh UK
[2024-05-10 06:38:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Thatcher is part of the reason we took so damn long to get proper fibre in teh UK
[2024-05-10 06:38:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Because meshing was an expensive concept in the 80's
[2024-05-10 06:38:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Because meshing was an expensive concept in the 80's
[2024-05-10 06:39:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| interesting
[2024-05-10 06:39:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| interesting
[2024-05-10 06:39:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| there's more to it than that
[2024-05-10 06:39:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| there's more to it than that
[2024-05-10 06:39:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i dont know much about early net infrastructure
[2024-05-10 06:39:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i dont know much about early net infrastructure
[2024-05-10 06:39:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| in fact there's a whole lot of mess that goes into it
[2024-05-10 06:39:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| in fact there's a whole lot of mess that goes into it
[2024-05-10 06:39:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| when i popped out i already had dial up
[2024-05-10 06:39:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| when i popped out i already had dial up
[2024-05-10 06:40:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| you can see the arguments made for thatcherism when you look at the results of like a modern day argentina
[2024-05-10 06:40:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| you can see the arguments made for thatcherism when you look at the results of like a modern day argentina
[2024-05-10 06:40:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| but i think the fear was greater than the actual risk of big state
[2024-05-10 06:40:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| but i think the fear was greater than the actual risk of big state
[2024-05-10 06:40:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm honestly not that well versed, I just know that the age of the little ISP like Demon Internet was put to a sudden and unexpected end because there was something of a hard ceiling for them as a direct result of the infrastructure being so gatewayed as it is
[2024-05-10 06:40:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I'm honestly not that well versed, I just know that the age of the little ISP like Demon Internet was put to a sudden and unexpected end because there was something of a hard ceiling for them as a direct result of the infrastructure being so gatewayed as it is
[2024-05-10 06:40:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Also, fuck openreach
[2024-05-10 06:40:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Also, fuck openreach
[2024-05-10 06:41:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| 100
[2024-05-10 06:41:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| 100
[2024-05-10 06:41:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Fuck the fact I'm not allowed to talk to them directly
[2024-05-10 06:41:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Fuck the fact I'm not allowed to talk to them directly
[2024-05-10 06:41:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| fuck this anti competition ruling in particular
[2024-05-10 06:41:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| fuck this anti competition ruling in particular
[2024-05-10 06:41:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| you can see ISPs going down the same route as energy and water as the necessary infrastructure is just so far out of the average capitalists reach
[2024-05-10 06:41:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| you can see ISPs going down the same route as energy and water as the necessary infrastructure is just so far out of the average capitalists reach
[2024-05-10 06:41:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| no competition when the best routes are already owned
[2024-05-10 06:41:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| no competition when the best routes are already owned
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[2024-05-10 06:42:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Nah, shits changing now. Used to be that openreach/BT was the only backend provider, but TT/Sky/Voda/Community/Toob/etcetcetcetc are now all running their altnets
[2024-05-10 06:42:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Nah, shits changing now. Used to be that openreach/BT was the only backend provider, but TT/Sky/Voda/Community/Toob/etcetcetcetc are now all running their altnets
[2024-05-10 06:42:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| are they actually using their own cables and not BT cables?
[2024-05-10 06:42:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| are they actually using their own cables and not BT cables?
[2024-05-10 06:42:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya
[2024-05-10 06:42:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ya
[2024-05-10 06:42:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| o nice
[2024-05-10 06:42:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| o nice
[2024-05-10 06:43:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| And the trunking between LYNX and MANX is changing too
[2024-05-10 06:43:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| And the trunking between LYNX and MANX is changing too
[2024-05-10 06:43:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| but how do they avoid the water problem where the most efficient route is owned by the biggest provider
[2024-05-10 06:43:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| but how do they avoid the water problem where the most efficient route is owned by the biggest provider
[2024-05-10 06:43:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i guess cables take up way less physical space than water pipes
[2024-05-10 06:43:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i guess cables take up way less physical space than water pipes
[2024-05-10 06:44:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Easy - they lay fibre. BT et al have to *re-lay* fibre to replace copper, and that means opening up old works that now have a million other solutions also running in their trenches
[2024-05-10 06:44:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Easy - they lay fibre. BT et al have to *re-lay* fibre to replace copper, and that means opening up old works that now have a million other solutions also running in their trenches
[2024-05-10 06:44:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| When CF come down and stick new tobys on a street, they lay a new trench altogether
[2024-05-10 06:44:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| When CF come down and stick new tobys on a street, they lay a new trench altogether
[2024-05-10 06:44:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| a good ol paradigm shift. cool
[2024-05-10 06:44:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| a good ol paradigm shift. cool
[2024-05-10 06:45:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| same way british trains went from being pioneers to being trash
[2024-05-10 06:45:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| same way british trains went from being pioneers to being trash
[2024-05-10 06:45:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| old tracks hard to replace
[2024-05-10 06:45:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| old tracks hard to replace
[2024-05-10 06:46:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, there's a few approaches that can work, and the advantage here is that there's not necessarily a single solution for every area. It;s not like the old approach to trains where you somehow have to run new stock on old tracks
[2024-05-10 06:46:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Well, there's a few approaches that can work, and the advantage here is that there's not necessarily a single solution for every area. It;s not like the old approach to trains where you somehow have to run new stock on old tracks
[2024-05-10 06:46:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and deal with railtrak being obstinate cunts too
[2024-05-10 06:46:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| and deal with railtrak being obstinate cunts too
[2024-05-10 06:46:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm never gonna orget what they did to GNER
[2024-05-10 06:46:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I'm never gonna orget what they did to GNER
[2024-05-10 06:49:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| but it doesn’t provide a solution to the terminals that become increasingly complex as they have to accommodate all the novel methods as well as the old ones
[2024-05-10 06:49:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| but it doesn’t provide a solution to the terminals that become increasingly complex as they have to accommodate all the novel methods as well as the old ones
[2024-05-10 06:49:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| liverpool street and bank are like labyrinths these days
[2024-05-10 06:49:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| liverpool street and bank are like labyrinths these days
[2024-05-10 06:50:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ?
[2024-05-10 06:50:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ?
[2024-05-10 06:50:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| LNER suffered the same fate and its rebranding from virgin has improved nothing
[2024-05-10 06:50:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| LNER suffered the same fate and its rebranding from virgin has improved nothing
[2024-05-10 06:50:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh you mean the railway stations
[2024-05-10 06:50:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Oh you mean the railway stations
[2024-05-10 06:50:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya nationalisation of the rail network is the only way forward imo
[2024-05-10 06:50:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ya nationalisation of the rail network is the only way forward imo
[2024-05-10 06:51:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yeah theyre located in the most efficient parts of the cities so whilst you can make new tracks and trains you cant easily make new stations
[2024-05-10 06:51:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| yeah theyre located in the most efficient parts of the cities so whilst you can make new tracks and trains you cant easily make new stations
[2024-05-10 06:51:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| or you have some mess like manchester or liverpool where the best stations are ways away from eachother
[2024-05-10 06:51:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| or you have some mess like manchester or liverpool where the best stations are ways away from eachother
[2024-05-10 06:52:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| There's your problem with London - city is overpopulated
[2024-05-10 06:52:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| There's your problem with London - city is overpopulated
[2024-05-10 06:52:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| can't build new shit anywhere useful
[2024-05-10 06:52:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| can't build new shit anywhere useful
[2024-05-10 06:52:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| up here that's not so much an issue. We could build a new light rail network easy peasy
[2024-05-10 06:52:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| up here that's not so much an issue. We could build a new light rail network easy peasy
[2024-05-10 06:52:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| running it is another issue
[2024-05-10 06:52:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| running it is another issue
[2024-05-10 06:52:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| (metro apologises)
[2024-05-10 06:52:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| (metro apologises)
[2024-05-10 06:52:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| xd
[2024-05-10 06:52:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| xd
[2024-05-10 06:53:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| thats the european issue with nationalised rail though
[2024-05-10 06:53:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| thats the european issue with nationalised rail though
[2024-05-10 06:53:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| deutschebahn can just apologise over and over knowing theres no actual repercussions
[2024-05-10 06:53:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| deutschebahn can just apologise over and over knowing theres no actual repercussions
[2024-05-10 06:53:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| tough equation to balance
[2024-05-10 06:53:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| tough equation to balance
[2024-05-10 06:53:43] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| DB Regio actually own the Metro iirc
[2024-05-10 06:53:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| DB Regio actually own the Metro iirc
[2024-05-10 06:53:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| you see our problem
[2024-05-10 06:53:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| you see our problem
[2024-05-10 06:54:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the real issue is the lack of infra maintenance and forethought. We're still running the same rolling stock we did in the 70's
[2024-05-10 06:54:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| the real issue is the lack of infra maintenance and forethought. We're still running the same rolling stock we did in the 70's
[2024-05-10 06:54:43] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the lads at the depot have been fabricating replacement parts for over twenty years now
[2024-05-10 06:54:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| the lads at the depot have been fabricating replacement parts for over twenty years now
[2024-05-10 06:54:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| forethought kinda speaks to the problems of democracy more generally though
[2024-05-10 06:54:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| forethought kinda speaks to the problems of democracy more generally though
[2024-05-10 06:55:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| hard to look into the future with 4 year term limits
[2024-05-10 06:55:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| hard to look into the future with 4 year term limits
[2024-05-10 06:55:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| hmm. idk, part of that responsibility lies with successive governments
[2024-05-10 06:55:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| hmm. idk, part of that responsibility lies with successive governments
[2024-05-10 06:55:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| When the coalition ended, so did any hope of drawing on the social investment (i.e. surestart through to HE funding) that we had in the 90's
[2024-05-10 06:55:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| When the coalition ended, so did any hope of drawing on the social investment (i.e. surestart through to HE funding) that we had in the 90's
[2024-05-10 06:56:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i feel pretty jaded at parties spending so much on marketing and then dedicating so much of their manifestos to undoing works of previous governments
[2024-05-10 06:56:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i feel pretty jaded at parties spending so much on marketing and then dedicating so much of their manifestos to undoing works of previous governments
[2024-05-10 06:56:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| feels like some kinda inescapable cycle
[2024-05-10 06:56:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| feels like some kinda inescapable cycle
[2024-05-10 06:57:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| at the same time im not exactly advocating for authoritarianism so idk
[2024-05-10 06:57:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| at the same time im not exactly advocating for authoritarianism so idk
[2024-05-10 06:57:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Better regulation could be in order
[2024-05-10 06:57:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Better regulation could be in order
[2024-05-10 06:57:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| coming from infosec i find regulation to be "anything is a nail to a hammer" kind of issue
[2024-05-10 06:57:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| coming from infosec i find regulation to be "anything is a nail to a hammer" kind of issue
[2024-05-10 06:58:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| all the l33t guys i used to know used to always preach about deregulation going all the way up to technoanarchy
[2024-05-10 06:58:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| all the l33t guys i used to know used to always preach about deregulation going all the way up to technoanarchy
[2024-05-10 06:58:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i struggle with wanting more regulation
[2024-05-10 06:58:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| i struggle with wanting more regulation
[2024-05-10 06:59:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's why it has to be delicately managed. Regulation can be an incredibly useful tool, but if you use it like a hammer it unfairly impacts... well, anything really
[2024-05-10 06:59:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| That's why it has to be delicately managed. Regulation can be an incredibly useful tool, but if you use it like a hammer it unfairly impacts... well, anything really
[2024-05-10 06:59:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Snoopers Charter is exactly the *opposite* of what is appropriate
[2024-05-10 06:59:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Snoopers Charter is exactly the *opposite* of what is appropriate
[2024-05-10 07:16:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| gotta keep them scared to keep them controlled
[2024-05-10 07:16:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| gotta keep them scared to keep them controlled
[2024-05-10 07:16:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| RIPA set the course and this became inevitable
[2024-05-10 07:16:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| RIPA set the course and this became inevitable
[2024-05-10 07:17:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| five eyes used to just get other agencies to spy on their civilians to get around the laws of spying on your own civilians
[2024-05-10 07:17:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| five eyes used to just get other agencies to spy on their civilians to get around the laws of spying on your own civilians
[2024-05-10 07:17:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| they make the loopholes
[2024-05-10 07:17:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| they make the loopholes
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[2024-05-10 15:18:44] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| will we be getting the game in steam?
[2024-05-10 15:18:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| will we be getting the game in steam?
[2024-05-10 15:22:32] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| retrocycles
[2024-05-10 15:22:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| retrocycles
[2024-05-10 15:23:13] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| oh ty
[2024-05-10 15:23:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| oh ty
[2024-05-10 23:59:03] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:solstitial_cold| hi crew, maybe someone knows about keyboards for pc with cable, backlight,  good for tron and under 50 euros.
[2024-05-10 23:59:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 09discord:solstitial_cold| hi crew, maybe someone knows about keyboards for pc with cable, backlight,  good for tron and under 50 euros.
[2024-05-10 23:59:35] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:solstitial_cold| i thought about hama and logitech, maybe you know a better one.
[2024-05-10 23:59:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 09discord:solstitial_cold| i thought about hama and logitech, maybe you know a better one.

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[2024-05-11 00:01:12] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Idk about better but I got a steel series apex 100 from Walmart and it a lot better than the flat-key style I had before that
[2024-05-11 00:01:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Idk about better but I got a steel series apex 100 from Walmart and it a lot better than the flat-key style I had before that
[2024-05-11 00:04:37] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:solstitial_cold| that woulfd be this one
[2024-05-11 00:04:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 09discord:solstitial_cold| that woulfd be this one
[2024-05-11 00:04:44] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:solstitial_cold| SteelSeries Apex 3 - Gaming Tastatur
[2024-05-11 00:04:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 09discord:solstitial_cold| SteelSeries Apex 3 - Gaming Tastatur
[2024-05-11 00:04:56] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:solstitial_cold| exactly 60 euros
[2024-05-11 00:04:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 09discord:solstitial_cold| exactly 60 euros
[2024-05-11 00:05:09] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:solstitial_cold| hm, i think about it
[2024-05-11 00:05:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 09discord:solstitial_cold| hm, i think about it
[2024-05-11 00:05:14] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:solstitial_cold| thanky
[2024-05-11 00:05:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 09discord:solstitial_cold| thanky
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[2024-05-11 04:53:40] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| sup i have a tiktok idk if its good enough or not 
[2024-05-11 04:53:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:vllis| sup i have a tiktok idk if its good enough or not 
[2024-05-11 04:53:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:vllis| https://www.tiktok.com/@elliscycles
[2024-05-11 04:53:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| https://www.tiktok.com/@elliscycles
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[2024-05-11 06:05:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| no such thing as good enough here g we’re all starting from scratch
[2024-05-11 06:05:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| no such thing as good enough here g we’re all starting from scratch
[2024-05-11 06:05:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Rx.Syn| added to the library i’ll let you know when it’s up
[2024-05-11 06:05:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Rx.Syn| added to the library i’ll let you know when it’s up
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[2024-05-11 11:54:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it would be nice to get 14 boosts to get the custom invite URL
[2024-05-11 11:54:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| it would be nice to get 14 boosts to get the custom invite URL
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[2024-05-11 18:11:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| What would we use though? Can't use "thegrid", because that kinda falls a bit foul of copyright, as does "armagetron" - and "retrocycles" only really suits the steam crowd. 
[2024-05-11 18:11:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| What would we use though? Can't use "thegrid", because that kinda falls a bit foul of copyright, as does "armagetron" - and "retrocycles" only really suits the steam crowd. 
[2024-05-11 18:11:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Maybe we can be cheeky and use TheGrid though, idk
[2024-05-11 18:11:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Maybe we can be cheeky and use TheGrid though, idk
[2024-05-11 18:33:24] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i just point people at http://armagetronad.org/discord
[2024-05-11 18:33:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| i just point people at http://armagetronad.org/discord
[2024-05-11 18:36:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ooh that's not a bad idea wither
[2024-05-11 18:36:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ooh that's not a bad idea wither
[2024-05-11 19:03:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| deli you’re so scared of copyright
[2024-05-11 19:03:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| deli you’re so scared of copyright
[2024-05-11 19:03:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| why
[2024-05-11 19:03:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| why
[2024-05-11 19:03:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i got served an nda and it’s really not a big deal
[2024-05-11 19:03:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i got served an nda and it’s really not a big deal
[2024-05-11 19:03:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Because it's a real issue, and other platforms have already called us on it before
[2024-05-11 19:03:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Because it's a real issue, and other platforms have already called us on it before
[2024-05-11 19:03:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| and you just say sorry and rename
[2024-05-11 19:03:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| and you just say sorry and rename
[2024-05-11 19:03:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| beg for forgiveness not permission
[2024-05-11 19:03:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| beg for forgiveness not permission
[2024-05-11 19:04:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Fedora specifically refused to add tron to their package base unless the game was renamed, at least on fedora, to something not containing "tron"
[2024-05-11 19:04:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Fedora specifically refused to add tron to their package base unless the game was renamed, at least on fedora, to something not containing "tron"
[2024-05-11 19:04:37] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| And this is disney we're talking about, too
[2024-05-11 19:04:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| And this is disney we're talking about, too
[2024-05-11 19:05:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly, I'm half a mind to be cheeky and suggest we use it anyway, but it's something that really has to be kept in mind
[2024-05-11 19:05:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Honestly, I'm half a mind to be cheeky and suggest we use it anyway, but it's something that really has to be kept in mind
[2024-05-11 19:07:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| for sure tron is a spicey choice
[2024-05-11 19:07:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| for sure tron is a spicey choice
[2024-05-11 19:07:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but the grid isn’t
[2024-05-11 19:07:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| but the grid isn’t
[2024-05-11 19:08:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's covered under IP, afaik
[2024-05-11 19:08:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| It's covered under IP, afaik
[2024-05-11 19:08:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it’s not
[2024-05-11 19:08:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| it’s not
[2024-05-11 19:09:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://lexprotector.com/blog/an-analysis-of-intellectual-property-of-disney-and-their-use-in-special-events/
[2024-05-11 19:09:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://lexprotector.com/blog/an-analysis-of-intellectual-property-of-disney-and-their-use-in-special-events/
[2024-05-11 19:11:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| > Nevertheless, Disney cannot claim exclusive rights over the generic use of every term associated with its properties, especially when those terms have broader meanings and uses outside of their specific context in Disney's films
[2024-05-11 19:11:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| > Nevertheless, Disney cannot claim exclusive rights over the generic use of every term associated with its properties, especially when those terms have broader meanings and uses outside of their specific context in Disney's films
[2024-05-11 19:11:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| And considering this is anything but a commercial venture there is very very little water in any infringement claim
[2024-05-11 19:11:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| And considering this is anything but a commercial venture there is very very little water in any infringement claim

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[2024-05-13 16:45:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| killed chat with overly verbose legislative conjecture
[2024-05-13 16:45:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| killed chat with overly verbose legislative conjecture
[2024-05-13 16:45:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| a modern classic
[2024-05-13 16:45:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| a modern classic
[2024-05-13 17:58:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Heh. No, I was thinking about it, and I have some thought on it but I gotta think about how to put that thought into lanuguage that is actually comprehensible instead of *ape make noise huur*
[2024-05-13 17:58:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Heh. No, I was thinking about it, and I have some thought on it but I gotta think about how to put that thought into lanuguage that is actually comprehensible instead of *ape make noise huur*
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[2024-05-13 19:19:11] <Lucifer_arma> You guys should try dealing with the political whiplash we're getting over here in the US.  Now that politicians can win elections by appealing to their base and most people identify with one of the two big parties, at least softly, they're just growing farther and farther apart
[2024-05-13 19:19:11] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| You guys should try dealing with the political whiplash we're getting over here in the US.  Now that politicians can win elections by appealing to their base and most people identify with one of the two big parties, at least softly, they're just growing farther and farther apart
[2024-05-13 19:20:09] <Lucifer_arma> I like to say I'm independent, because when I was growing up, politicians won elections by first appealing to their base to win the primary, then turning to the center to grab up independent votes, so I figured by being independent, I'd be someone they targeted
[2024-05-13 19:20:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I like to say I'm independent, because when I was growing up, politicians won elections by first appealing to their base to win the primary, then turning to the center to grab up independent votes, so I figured by being independent, I'd be someone they targeted
[2024-05-13 19:20:44] <Lucifer_arma> but after Rush Limbaugh and the whole shitstew he inspired, the conservatives have gotten more conservative and are able to win elections without independent voters
[2024-05-13 19:20:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but after Rush Limbaugh and the whole shitstew he inspired, the conservatives have gotten more conservative and are able to win elections without independent voters
[2024-05-13 19:21:41] <Lucifer_arma> I do still find it hilarious that even with both houses of congress and the whitehouse, the conservatives still couldn't repeal the affordable care act.  It's just too popular, and they wouldn't win reelection if they pulled it off
[2024-05-13 19:21:41] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I do still find it hilarious that even with both houses of congress and the whitehouse, the conservatives still couldn't repeal the affordable care act.  It's just too popular, and they wouldn't win reelection if they pulled it off
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[2024-05-13 20:17:00] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:yz_zy| wsg
[2024-05-13 20:17:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:yz_zy| wsg
[2024-05-13 22:11:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @yz_zy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8HY0Wh_ZgE
[2024-05-13 22:11:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| @yz_zy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8HY0Wh_ZgE
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[2024-05-14 00:05:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Wasn't someone doing a video using recordings of everyone playing on the keyboard or something like that? Don't know if you would know or if it got finished
[2024-05-14 00:05:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Wasn't someone doing a video using recordings of everyone playing on the keyboard or something like that? Don't know if you would know or if it got finished
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[2024-05-14 01:26:29] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| it was wild goose and it was for a joke video
[2024-05-14 01:26:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| it was wild goose and it was for a joke video
[2024-05-14 01:26:55] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i think its on koalas youtube channel somewhere
[2024-05-14 01:26:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| i think its on koalas youtube channel somewhere
[2024-05-14 01:31:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh gotcha
[2024-05-14 01:31:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh gotcha
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[2024-05-14 02:54:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| This is a very cool video i've never seen this before
[2024-05-14 02:54:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| This is a very cool video i've never seen this before
[2024-05-14 02:54:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| We're approaching 1000 members here. We should do something to celebrate
[2024-05-14 02:54:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| We're approaching 1000 members here. We should do something to celebrate
[2024-05-14 03:04:46] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| 1000 members yet we can barely get 3 teams for ladle
[2024-05-14 03:04:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| 1000 members yet we can barely get 3 teams for ladle
[2024-05-14 03:13:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| a degree of critical thinking reveals why that is
[2024-05-14 03:13:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| a degree of critical thinking reveals why that is
[2024-05-14 03:14:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| and why yellow sub gets daily new players
[2024-05-14 03:14:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| and why yellow sub gets daily new players
[2024-05-14 03:14:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the same reason people message me asking to be on a team with me in TST despite me being objectively not amazing
[2024-05-14 03:14:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| the same reason people message me asking to be on a team with me in TST despite me being objectively not amazing
[2024-05-14 03:22:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| concepts and issues mostly revolving around
[2024-05-14 03:22:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| concepts and issues mostly revolving around
[2024-05-14 03:22:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 1. Community engagement (I get the feeling some people want this to remain a small low key venture)
[2024-05-14 03:22:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 1. Community engagement (I get the feeling some people want this to remain a small low key venture)
[2024-05-14 03:22:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 2. Bridging the skill gap (Helping new players get good potentially dethrones the current dominant parties)
[2024-05-14 03:22:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 2. Bridging the skill gap (Helping new players get good potentially dethrones the current dominant parties)
[2024-05-14 03:22:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 3. Visibility and Marketing (The last few months have had little to no messaging either internal or external)
[2024-05-14 03:22:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 3. Visibility and Marketing (The last few months have had little to no messaging either internal or external)
[2024-05-14 03:22:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 4. Game Mode (Fortress sucks - or rather - it sucks for everyone except seasoned veterans)
[2024-05-14 03:22:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 4. Game Mode (Fortress sucks - or rather - it sucks for everyone except seasoned veterans)
[2024-05-14 03:22:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 5. Rewards and Incentives (Why should new players even play to win? What's the point?)
[2024-05-14 03:22:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 5. Rewards and Incentives (Why should new players even play to win? What's the point?)
[2024-05-14 03:22:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 6. Retention (Similar concept to engagement, but post play instead of pre play. What feedback mechanisms are we lacking?)
[2024-05-14 03:22:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 6. Retention (Similar concept to engagement, but post play instead of pre play. What feedback mechanisms are we lacking?)
[2024-05-14 03:22:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Big hard questions. I know. Not expecting any immediate answers
[2024-05-14 03:22:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Big hard questions. I know. Not expecting any immediate answers
[2024-05-14 03:28:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Also whilst im on the topic why is it that Ladle (a monthly tourney) is the peak of competition? Why dont we have a seasonal league that results in a yearly (maybe even bi yearly) championship? I just dont think ladle has the gravitas that the peak deserves
[2024-05-14 03:28:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Also whilst im on the topic why is it that Ladle (a monthly tourney) is the peak of competition? Why dont we have a seasonal league that results in a yearly (maybe even bi yearly) championship? I just dont think ladle has the gravitas that the peak deserves
[2024-05-14 03:53:19] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| it was not a serious remark
[2024-05-14 03:53:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| it was not a serious remark
[2024-05-14 03:54:04] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| but there's a good portion of duplicate/alt accounts
[2024-05-14 03:54:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| but there's a good portion of duplicate/alt accounts
[2024-05-14 03:55:28] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| and plenty of accounts which were almost certainly temporary accounts that are now inaccessible
[2024-05-14 03:55:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| and plenty of accounts which were almost certainly temporary accounts that are now inaccessible
[2024-05-14 03:59:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you missed my point almost entirely
[2024-05-14 03:59:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| you missed my point almost entirely
[2024-05-14 04:00:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you might not have been serious but i am
[2024-05-14 04:00:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| you might not have been serious but i am
[2024-05-14 04:00:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| im not going to pretend like there are no new players and that theyre all just alts of OG players lol
[2024-05-14 04:00:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| im not going to pretend like there are no new players and that theyre all just alts of OG players lol
[2024-05-14 04:01:18] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| that's not what i said
[2024-05-14 04:01:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| that's not what i said
[2024-05-14 04:48:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @syn_acc I think one of the big issues is lack of accessibility tron as it is. If someone has found this game and they load it up they see an empty game aside from a few guys that play sub. Lately I've been on public sumo a lot this weekend even if I'm the only one on for a few and as far as I can tell it's encouraged more people to play sumo. As a new player I might not get the  <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 04:48:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| @syn_acc I think one of the big issues is lack of accessibility tron as it is. If someone has found this game and they load it up they see an empty game aside from a few guys that play sub. Lately I've been on public sumo a lot this weekend even if I'm the only one on for a few and as far as I can tell it's encouraged more people to play sumo. As a new player I might not get the  <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 04:48:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| whole discord thing, once passed that the pickup games are intimidating if I have little to no skill compared to the regulars, then fort is even more difficult to pick up and no one wants to coach it. Ladle is going to die then fort if no one is willing to play some public fort and teach people how to get good at it.
[2024-05-14 04:48:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| whole discord thing, once passed that the pickup games are intimidating if I have little to no skill compared to the regulars, then fort is even more difficult to pick up and no one wants to coach it. Ladle is going to die then fort if no one is willing to play some public fort and teach people how to get good at it.
[2024-05-14 05:51:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now one of the issues I see is that fort is a team sport, you can't really play until you have I would say at least 4-6 people and even then regular fort players are used to 6v6 so 3v3 to them probably isn't worth hanging out messing around till new players hop. So what would be a minimum player count for a game of like mini fort? Then you would need at least that many regulars p <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 05:51:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now one of the issues I see is that fort is a team sport, you can't really play until you have I would say at least 4-6 people and even then regular fort players are used to 6v6 so 3v3 to them probably isn't worth hanging out messing around till new players hop. So what would be a minimum player count for a game of like mini fort? Then you would need at least that many regulars p <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 05:51:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| laying public and showing new players the ropes. Our regulars just aren't interested in any of that but maybe if a few of us would be willing to do it just for the sake of keeping tron alive in general, maybe a few newer players interested in learning more tron (like me) and a couple experienced players
[2024-05-14 05:51:39] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| laying public and showing new players the ropes. Our regulars just aren't interested in any of that but maybe if a few of us would be willing to do it just for the sake of keeping tron alive in general, maybe a few newer players interested in learning more tron (like me) and a couple experienced players
[2024-05-14 05:52:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Even a group of 4-6 we could do some practice defending and attacking in public
[2024-05-14 05:52:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Even a group of 4-6 we could do some practice defending and attacking in public
[2024-05-14 06:15:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| thats why im interested in something like a weekly/biweekly league that can dual in purpose for allowing skill based matchmaking at the higher levels and less intimidating play at the lower levels
[2024-05-14 06:15:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| thats why im interested in something like a weekly/biweekly league that can dual in purpose for allowing skill based matchmaking at the higher levels and less intimidating play at the lower levels
[2024-05-14 06:15:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| thinking along the lines of english football (soccer) where the leagues range from a typical sunday league that I could join now all the way up to the premier league
[2024-05-14 06:15:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| thinking along the lines of english football (soccer) where the leagues range from a typical sunday league that I could join now all the way up to the premier league
[2024-05-14 06:16:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we have no association or federation that can actually take this kind of action though
[2024-05-14 06:16:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| we have no association or federation that can actually take this kind of action though
[2024-05-14 06:17:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i'm interested in financial incentives for players but understandably many of the veterans are staunch FOSS warriors. A tough one to balance
[2024-05-14 06:17:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i'm interested in financial incentives for players but understandably many of the veterans are staunch FOSS warriors. A tough one to balance
[2024-05-14 06:38:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| There's nowt wrong with someone offering a cash prize for a tournament they host, in fact it's already been done to great success. 
[2024-05-14 06:38:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| There's nowt wrong with someone offering a cash prize for a tournament they host, in fact it's already been done to great success. 
[2024-05-14 06:38:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| As for game modes, we've had plenty new players come through the door, get thrown in to fort pickup, and do just fine. I don't think it's so much the availability of game modes so much as it is the other point you mention - visibility. Everything is pickup at the moment, which is being used as a substitute for getting matches going. That was never the intention of pickup, it was  <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 06:38:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| As for game modes, we've had plenty new players come through the door, get thrown in to fort pickup, and do just fine. I don't think it's so much the availability of game modes so much as it is the other point you mention - visibility. Everything is pickup at the moment, which is being used as a substitute for getting matches going. That was never the intention of pickup, it was  <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 06:38:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| supposed to be a solution for EU players struggling with a lack of open games. Here, we have enough players that open servers should be the go-to solution, but the problem we have is patience. Not a lot of people willing to sit by themselves and maze alone for ten minutes whilst they wait for others to show up.
[2024-05-14 06:38:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| supposed to be a solution for EU players struggling with a lack of open games. Here, we have enough players that open servers should be the go-to solution, but the problem we have is patience. Not a lot of people willing to sit by themselves and maze alone for ten minutes whilst they wait for others to show up.
[2024-05-14 06:38:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Imo we need to incentivise pub sumo play more - perhaps we could have some sort of leaderboard competition by which the winner receives some sort of reward for being at the top of the board after a month or two. 
[2024-05-14 06:38:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Imo we need to incentivise pub sumo play more - perhaps we could have some sort of leaderboard competition by which the winner receives some sort of reward for being at the top of the board after a month or two. 
[2024-05-14 06:38:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| In fact, maybe a prize pot that we can all donate to? It'll never be huge amounts of money, but it might be a few beers. A little pot for US and perhaps a little pot for EU too.
[2024-05-14 06:38:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| In fact, maybe a prize pot that we can all donate to? It'll never be huge amounts of money, but it might be a few beers. A little pot for US and perhaps a little pot for EU too.
[2024-05-14 06:45:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Hard agree on all points here. I'd love to brainstorm ways to incentivise pub server play. A leaderboard is a great idea but doesn't stop the pros coming in when the server is already full and just wiping the floor with people and leaving. I'm not saying a leaderboard is a bad idea, but I think it should/could be supplemented with something that incentivises raw play time. Think  <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 06:45:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Hard agree on all points here. I'd love to brainstorm ways to incentivise pub server play. A leaderboard is a great idea but doesn't stop the pros coming in when the server is already full and just wiping the floor with people and leaving. I'm not saying a leaderboard is a bad idea, but I think it should/could be supplemented with something that incentivises raw play time. Think  <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 06:45:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| social/organised games like WoW where hardcore raiders are incentivised towards other objectives besides raid logging. 
[2024-05-14 06:45:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| social/organised games like WoW where hardcore raiders are incentivised towards other objectives besides raid logging. 
[2024-05-14 06:45:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I'd suggest a cash pot for pub playtime if it wouldn't open another can of worms about fair evaluation/exploitation. 
[2024-05-14 06:45:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I'd suggest a cash pot for pub playtime if it wouldn't open another can of worms about fair evaluation/exploitation. 
[2024-05-14 06:45:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Some type of regular awards ceremony would be fantastic, requires us to circle back to some form of association though for somewhat objective measurement
[2024-05-14 06:45:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Some type of regular awards ceremony would be fantastic, requires us to circle back to some form of association though for somewhat objective measurement
[2024-05-14 06:45:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I'm interested in some type of award for best sportsperson that incentives playtime, engagement, guidance, as well as sportsmanship/respect in organised play
[2024-05-14 06:45:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I'm interested in some type of award for best sportsperson that incentives playtime, engagement, guidance, as well as sportsmanship/respect in organised play
[2024-05-14 07:21:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| yeah the actual measurement of performance is not easy to do in depth, hence Nanu's experiments with stats etcetera. However, the actual prize pot isn't really the point, its just the carrot on the stick. The real objective is just to get bodies in the server, which is how we used to get new players all the time. Once we have more activity, we can look at how newer players intera <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 07:21:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| yeah the actual measurement of performance is not easy to do in depth, hence Nanu's experiments with stats etcetera. However, the actual prize pot isn't really the point, its just the carrot on the stick. The real objective is just to get bodies in the server, which is how we used to get new players all the time. Once we have more activity, we can look at how newer players intera <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 07:21:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ct with the playerbase and make any necessary adjustments as and when needed. 
[2024-05-14 07:21:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ct with the playerbase and make any necessary adjustments as and when needed. 
[2024-05-14 07:21:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| It's also worth noting that most of the existing playerbase are adults now, and not exactly young adults either. I'm in my thirties, some are a decade older still. We don't have the time or patience to spend more than, say, half an hour or an hour in a public server, which means there should ideally be some degree of turnover. That means the skill ceiling constantly changes, whic <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 07:21:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's also worth noting that most of the existing playerbase are adults now, and not exactly young adults either. I'm in my thirties, some are a decade older still. We don't have the time or patience to spend more than, say, half an hour or an hour in a public server, which means there should ideally be some degree of turnover. That means the skill ceiling constantly changes, whic <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 07:21:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| h could be very useful for newer players. idk, at thsi point I'm just spitballing
[2024-05-14 07:21:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| h could be very useful for newer players. idk, at thsi point I'm just spitballing
[2024-05-14 07:43:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Spitballing is the necessary first step and kinda all we can do at this stage
[2024-05-14 07:43:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Spitballing is the necessary first step and kinda all we can do at this stage
[2024-05-14 07:43:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| So diluting the discussion above seems like we're in agreement of at least 3 areas of improvement
[2024-05-14 07:43:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| So diluting the discussion above seems like we're in agreement of at least 3 areas of improvement
[2024-05-14 07:43:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 1. Enhancing the community experience
[2024-05-14 07:43:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 1. Enhancing the community experience
[2024-05-14 07:43:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 2. Bridging the skill gap
[2024-05-14 07:43:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 2. Bridging the skill gap
[2024-05-14 07:43:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 3. Increasing both visibility and engagement
[2024-05-14 07:43:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 3. Increasing both visibility and engagement
[2024-05-14 07:43:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| We've identified that the following can be used as practical levers to help these objectives
[2024-05-14 07:43:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| We've identified that the following can be used as practical levers to help these objectives
[2024-05-14 07:43:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 1. Cash prizes (For categories around but not explicitly performance)
[2024-05-14 07:43:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 1. Cash prizes (For categories around but not explicitly performance)
[2024-05-14 07:43:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 2. Leaderboards
[2024-05-14 07:43:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 2. Leaderboards
[2024-05-14 07:43:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 3. Public server events
[2024-05-14 07:43:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 3. Public server events
[2024-05-14 07:43:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| As well as a handful of levers not explicitly discussed here but ideas i've seen floating around here/the forums
[2024-05-14 07:43:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| As well as a handful of levers not explicitly discussed here but ideas i've seen floating around here/the forums
[2024-05-14 07:43:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - Mentorship programmes
[2024-05-14 07:43:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - Mentorship programmes
[2024-05-14 07:43:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - Enhanced social presence
[2024-05-14 07:43:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - Enhanced social presence
[2024-05-14 07:43:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - Regular community meetups (virtual events not explicitly on the grid)
[2024-05-14 07:43:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - Regular community meetups (virtual events not explicitly on the grid)
[2024-05-14 07:44:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Next step is to either develop the floating ideas or structure and formalise the practical ideas
[2024-05-14 07:44:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Next step is to either develop the floating ideas or structure and formalise the practical ideas
[2024-05-14 08:00:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think the biggest focus should be on getting bodies in server as was stated. I think that simplest way to do that would be to have a public fort group that will actually consistently get on public and play as no one wants to sit around by themselves and wait for people to join then the solution to that is to have a group that shows up every weekend or whenever on public servers <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 08:00:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think the biggest focus should be on getting bodies in server as was stated. I think that simplest way to do that would be to have a public fort group that will actually consistently get on public and play as no one wants to sit around by themselves and wait for people to join then the solution to that is to have a group that shows up every weekend or whenever on public servers <clipped message>
[2024-05-14 08:00:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT|  and invites new players to join them and teaches them how to play.
[2024-05-14 08:00:30] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT|  and invites new players to join them and teaches them how to play.
[2024-05-14 08:03:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| My thoughts on the leaderboard though. I think that simply awarding  a point for participating and then giving extra point for being on the winning team would incentivize people to both simply particip and to also try it
[2024-05-14 08:03:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| My thoughts on the leaderboard though. I think that simply awarding  a point for participating and then giving extra point for being on the winning team would incentivize people to both simply particip and to also try it
[2024-05-14 08:06:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| As for the cash prize pot in my opinion simply putting in a dollar would be a little enough that I think most people would consider it and suppose you had 10 to 20 people do that then its actually a decent size pot to try and win
[2024-05-14 08:06:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| As for the cash prize pot in my opinion simply putting in a dollar would be a little enough that I think most people would consider it and suppose you had 10 to 20 people do that then its actually a decent size pot to try and win
[2024-05-14 08:07:40] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now the question is is who is going to hold and organize the winnings / bets? Are people really going to be okay with simply sending a dollar to someone's cash app account or what's the deal?
[2024-05-14 08:07:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now the question is is who is going to hold and organize the winnings / bets? Are people really going to be okay with simply sending a dollar to someone's cash app account or what's the deal?
[2024-05-14 08:08:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| more than happy to create a pot of decent sized cash using my own funds if we can agree and formalize on a structure - plenty of trustworthy escrow-like platforms for this sort of application
[2024-05-14 08:08:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| more than happy to create a pot of decent sized cash using my own funds if we can agree and formalize on a structure - plenty of trustworthy escrow-like platforms for this sort of application
[2024-05-14 08:09:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i dont think thats a hard a question as structure
[2024-05-14 08:09:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i dont think thats a hard a question as structure
[2024-05-14 08:10:13] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well if they already have stuff designed for that then it's a good solution
[2024-05-14 08:10:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well if they already have stuff designed for that then it's a good solution
[2024-05-14 08:11:21] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If we can honestly establish a small group that will get this idea rolling then I too would be willing to add money to the pot but not a lot as I'm a broke bitch
[2024-05-14 08:11:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| If we can honestly establish a small group that will get this idea rolling then I too would be willing to add money to the pot but not a lot as I'm a broke bitch
[2024-05-14 08:14:09] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But I honestly think that all the ideas are for nothing unless we have a group willing to play public fort. The new guys aren't just going to show up and figure it out on their own even if we do put up some leaderboard and cash prices and other incentives
[2024-05-14 08:14:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| But I honestly think that all the ideas are for nothing unless we have a group willing to play public fort. The new guys aren't just going to show up and figure it out on their own even if we do put up some leaderboard and cash prices and other incentives
[2024-05-14 08:14:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm broke too but I can maybe stick a fiver in. The intent is not to make it a huge pot anyway, just to make it worth a couple beers
[2024-05-14 08:14:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I'm broke too but I can maybe stick a fiver in. The intent is not to make it a huge pot anyway, just to make it worth a couple beers
[2024-05-14 08:14:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i've internally committed to something around £100 a month for a structure i believe in and shows results
[2024-05-14 08:14:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i've internally committed to something around £100 a month for a structure i believe in and shows results
[2024-05-14 08:14:56] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ya five is about what I had in mind
[2024-05-14 08:14:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ya five is about what I had in mind
[2024-05-14 08:15:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh syn bb no, thats way too much. £20 at the very most
[2024-05-14 08:15:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| oh syn bb no, thats way too much. £20 at the very most
[2024-05-14 08:15:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| whether thats one pot or a bunch of pots idc
[2024-05-14 08:15:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| whether thats one pot or a bunch of pots idc
[2024-05-14 08:15:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Actually yaknowwhat
[2024-05-14 08:15:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Actually yaknowwhat
[2024-05-14 08:15:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Like I said it's not a problem you can throw money at we need people willing to play that know how to play
[2024-05-14 08:15:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Like I said it's not a problem you can throw money at we need people willing to play that know how to play
[2024-05-14 08:16:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @zbig if I can get your leaderboard script, I can put up two sumobars for this very purpose today. Then I can wipe it on, say, a monthly basis, and we can have a little go at it every month
[2024-05-14 08:16:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| @zbig if I can get your leaderboard script, I can put up two sumobars for this very purpose today. Then I can wipe it on, say, a monthly basis, and we can have a little go at it every month
[2024-05-14 08:16:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| so focusing specifically on the cash prize then
[2024-05-14 08:16:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| so focusing specifically on the cash prize then
[2024-05-14 08:16:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| where
[2024-05-14 08:16:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| where
[2024-05-14 08:16:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| -- we need servers + config that supports the mission
[2024-05-14 08:16:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| -- we need servers + config that supports the mission
[2024-05-14 08:16:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| what
[2024-05-14 08:16:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| what
[2024-05-14 08:16:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| -- we need some algorithm that collates variables that we agree can be used in a fair manner
[2024-05-14 08:16:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| -- we need some algorithm that collates variables that we agree can be used in a fair manner
[2024-05-14 08:16:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| how
[2024-05-14 08:16:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| how
[2024-05-14 08:16:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| -- how will we measure and publicly display progress? some type of site/table/graph
[2024-05-14 08:16:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| -- how will we measure and publicly display progress? some type of site/table/graph
[2024-05-14 08:16:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| when
[2024-05-14 08:16:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| when
[2024-05-14 08:16:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| -- obvious question
[2024-05-14 08:16:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| -- obvious question
[2024-05-14 08:19:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Servers are easy, I have the DC here, and a rack in a DC in DC. That covers EU and US, and we can split the pot between the two.
[2024-05-14 08:19:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Servers are easy, I have the DC here, and a rack in a DC in DC. That covers EU and US, and we can split the pot between the two.
[2024-05-14 08:19:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Algo is also easy, for the first month or two we can just take the topmost player on the leaderboard, and then revise how the leaderboard is measured as and when we need to. Right now it just measures the number of matches won.
[2024-05-14 08:19:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Algo is also easy, for the first month or two we can just take the topmost player on the leaderboard, and then revise how the leaderboard is measured as and when we need to. Right now it just measures the number of matches won.
[2024-05-14 08:19:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Public display is easy, I'll just plug it in to Rinzler, make a specific channel here, and have Rinzler pipe in an update whenever something interesting happens. 
[2024-05-14 08:19:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Public display is easy, I'll just plug it in to Rinzler, make a specific channel here, and have Rinzler pipe in an update whenever something interesting happens. 
[2024-05-14 08:19:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Timing? whenever we want, as soon as we can. I can put up servers today, and the Rinzler thing isn't hard either
[2024-05-14 08:19:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Timing? whenever we want, as soon as we can. I can put up servers today, and the Rinzler thing isn't hard either
[2024-05-14 08:20:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i like all of those except the algo
[2024-05-14 08:20:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i like all of those except the algo
[2024-05-14 08:20:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| number of matches won is easily exploitable at best and completely skill based at worst
[2024-05-14 08:20:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| number of matches won is easily exploitable at best and completely skill based at worst
[2024-05-14 08:20:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i want to avoid a scenario that essentially guarantees apple being able to win every month LOL
[2024-05-14 08:20:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i want to avoid a scenario that essentially guarantees apple being able to win every month LOL
[2024-05-14 08:20:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I can't handle the cash side fo things though, that will have to be someone else. I don't have access to Paypal, and I'm not set up with Stripe yet for the business. Once I am and have the infra, I can make a dedicated account that is publicly available, but until then someone else should take that mantle
[2024-05-14 08:20:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I can't handle the cash side fo things though, that will have to be someone else. I don't have access to Paypal, and I'm not set up with Stripe yet for the business. Once I am and have the infra, I can make a dedicated account that is publicly available, but until then someone else should take that mantle
[2024-05-14 08:20:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, that's why we continue to revise it
[2024-05-14 08:20:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Well, that's why we continue to revise it
[2024-05-14 08:20:57] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think as much information should be displayed in server as possible
[2024-05-14 08:20:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think as much information should be displayed in server as possible
[2024-05-14 08:21:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Since some people don't like to mess with discord at all it shouldn't be a requirement to get involved
[2024-05-14 08:21:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Since some people don't like to mess with discord at all it shouldn't be a requirement to get involved
[2024-05-14 08:21:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Also apple vs koala? Koala wins.
[2024-05-14 08:21:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Also apple vs koala? Koala wins.
[2024-05-14 08:21:35] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Obviously if they're going to be putting in money into the pot we're going to have to go somewhere but some people will want to just show up and play regardless of the pot
[2024-05-14 08:21:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Obviously if they're going to be putting in money into the pot we're going to have to go somewhere but some people will want to just show up and play regardless of the pot
[2024-05-14 08:22:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ya, We'll need an extra webpage I think. I think that's best done on the Retrocycles domains
[2024-05-14 08:22:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Ya, We'll need an extra webpage I think. I think that's best done on the Retrocycles domains
[2024-05-14 08:22:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I enjoyed kevins idea of a points based system that rewards both participation and victory
[2024-05-14 08:22:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I enjoyed kevins idea of a points based system that rewards both participation and victory
[2024-05-14 08:22:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| So split the pot amongst the top three?
[2024-05-14 08:22:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| So split the pot amongst the top three?
[2024-05-14 08:23:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| be a mighty small reward then. Maybe 50/30/20?
[2024-05-14 08:23:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| be a mighty small reward then. Maybe 50/30/20?
[2024-05-14 08:23:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| if we get, say, fifty quid in the pot, that's at least a pint for all three
[2024-05-14 08:23:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| if we get, say, fifty quid in the pot, that's at least a pint for all three
[2024-05-14 08:23:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| half a pint in London
[2024-05-14 08:23:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| half a pint in London
[2024-05-14 08:25:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| happy to setup stripe connect. they have a very nice API
[2024-05-14 08:25:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| happy to setup stripe connect. they have a very nice API
[2024-05-14 08:25:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| If you have the infra to do it, ya
[2024-05-14 08:25:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| If you have the infra to do it, ya
[2024-05-14 08:26:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| rn I'm mostly focused on getting integration with Ad working
[2024-05-14 08:26:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| rn I'm mostly focused on getting integration with Ad working
[2024-05-14 08:26:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| got a VPS in London but can spin them up wherever/whenever
[2024-05-14 08:26:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| got a VPS in London but can spin them up wherever/whenever
[2024-05-14 08:26:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| doesnt helpo that MS keeps fucking around with azure ad
[2024-05-14 08:26:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| doesnt helpo that MS keeps fucking around with azure ad
[2024-05-14 08:26:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| fk ad
[2024-05-14 08:26:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| fk ad
[2024-05-14 08:26:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| or entra ID or whatever it is now
[2024-05-14 08:26:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| or entra ID or whatever it is now
[2024-05-14 08:27:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ya I need a remote source to get it to work at all, but designing an agent that doesn't trip over itself and cause huge delays is frustating
[2024-05-14 08:27:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Ya I need a remote source to get it to work at all, but designing an agent that doesn't trip over itself and cause huge delays is frustating
[2024-05-14 08:27:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| can we revise the algo some more though
[2024-05-14 08:27:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| can we revise the algo some more though
[2024-05-14 08:27:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| whats the feasibility of setting up weight matches where 1 point is awarded to all players and 2 points to the winner
[2024-05-14 08:27:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| whats the feasibility of setting up weight matches where 1 point is awarded to all players and 2 points to the winner
[2024-05-14 08:28:25] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Would it be at all possible to have the server automatically assign people to teams based on their leaderboard position?
[2024-05-14 08:28:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Would it be at all possible to have the server automatically assign people to teams based on their leaderboard position?
[2024-05-14 08:28:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| anyway, yeah. Honestly, I think we should start with whatever leaderboard solution we have already, and then modify it as we go, deploying it each month when consensus is reached. We should also have a hard and fast rule that no changes are deployed at any other time than the transition between one competition period and the next. Obvious, I know, but worth mentioning
[2024-05-14 08:28:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| anyway, yeah. Honestly, I think we should start with whatever leaderboard solution we have already, and then modify it as we go, deploying it each month when consensus is reached. We should also have a hard and fast rule that no changes are deployed at any other time than the transition between one competition period and the next. Obvious, I know, but worth mentioning
[2024-05-14 08:28:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So that it would prevent better players from teaming up and taking all the win.
[2024-05-14 08:28:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| So that it would prevent better players from teaming up and taking all the win.
[2024-05-14 08:28:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| This is single-player at the moment, but in the future it could be adapted to TST
[2024-05-14 08:28:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| This is single-player at the moment, but in the future it could be adapted to TST
[2024-05-14 08:30:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i just feel like if we start with not incentivising play but incentivising wins then we're doing nothing for the new player experience
[2024-05-14 08:30:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i just feel like if we start with not incentivising play but incentivising wins then we're doing nothing for the new player experience
[2024-05-14 08:30:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So have we turned this towards a TST idea? Originally I thought we were talking about fort. But really I'm just interested in whatever gets more people in public games
[2024-05-14 08:30:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| So have we turned this towards a TST idea? Originally I thought we were talking about fort. But really I'm just interested in whatever gets more people in public games
[2024-05-14 08:30:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the people winning matches dont need convincing to stick around
[2024-05-14 08:30:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| the people winning matches dont need convincing to stick around
[2024-05-14 08:30:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| sumo bar to start with
[2024-05-14 08:30:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| sumo bar to start with
[2024-05-14 08:30:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Sumobar ya
[2024-05-14 08:30:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Sumobar ya
[2024-05-14 08:30:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| easiest to get going as a solo player
[2024-05-14 08:30:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| easiest to get going as a solo player
[2024-05-14 08:30:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| and transitions well into organised play when theyre ready
[2024-05-14 08:30:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| and transitions well into organised play when theyre ready
[2024-05-14 08:30:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I agree there, we want people who aren't winning to be incintivised
[2024-05-14 08:30:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I agree there, we want people who aren't winning to be incintivised
[2024-05-14 08:31:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ya, that's why the changes will need to happen - but if we start with something we know functions, that makes the process of adapting it much quicker and gets the project off the ground. Starting from scratch is also a disincentivisation for the project as a whole, which is why I proposed we make this a regular, continually updated thing
[2024-05-14 08:31:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Ya, that's why the changes will need to happen - but if we start with something we know functions, that makes the process of adapting it much quicker and gets the project off the ground. Starting from scratch is also a disincentivisation for the project as a whole, which is why I proposed we make this a regular, continually updated thing
[2024-05-14 08:32:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh, we can also do a longer-running reward schema, something like the way F1 does things with the chamionship against individual races
[2024-05-14 08:32:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Oh, we can also do a longer-running reward schema, something like the way F1 does things with the chamionship against individual races
[2024-05-14 08:32:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| fully in agreement there the best idea is the one that is able to be iterated on
[2024-05-14 08:32:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| fully in agreement there the best idea is the one that is able to be iterated on
[2024-05-14 08:32:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| players get points for participation, as well as progression
[2024-05-14 08:32:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| players get points for participation, as well as progression
[2024-05-14 08:33:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i love the idea of a seasonal championship that rewards long term participation
[2024-05-14 08:33:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i love the idea of a seasonal championship that rewards long term participation
[2024-05-14 08:34:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| really love it - the question/challenge is being able to come up with an agreed set of terms and then corresponding infrastructure
[2024-05-14 08:34:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| really love it - the question/challenge is being able to come up with an agreed set of terms and then corresponding infrastructure
[2024-05-14 08:34:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| im with you 100% for "if we start with something we know functions, that makes the process of adapting it much quicker and gets the project off the ground" but also very much with Kevin on "we want people who aren't winning to be incentivised"
[2024-05-14 08:34:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| im with you 100% for "if we start with something we know functions, that makes the process of adapting it much quicker and gets the project off the ground" but also very much with Kevin on "we want people who aren't winning to be incentivised"
[2024-05-14 08:35:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the advantage of seasons is that we can plug Nanu's stats into it, and do things like peformance improvement rewards
[2024-05-14 08:35:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| the advantage of seasons is that we can plug Nanu's stats into it, and do things like peformance improvement rewards
[2024-05-14 08:35:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if we can brainstorm a solution that fits somewhere in the middle to start with i think we're onto a winner
[2024-05-14 08:35:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| if we can brainstorm a solution that fits somewhere in the middle to start with i think we're onto a winner
[2024-05-14 08:36:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| so if a new player starts out not winning any rounds, and then progresses to winning more rounds but also using rubber more effectively, using holes, judiciously spending time outside the zone to gain an advantage, that sorta thing, we can measrue that and reward it
[2024-05-14 08:36:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| so if a new player starts out not winning any rounds, and then progresses to winning more rounds but also using rubber more effectively, using holes, judiciously spending time outside the zone to gain an advantage, that sorta thing, we can measrue that and reward it
[2024-05-14 08:37:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i can already imagine a simple script that takes a match end and calculates points based on position - not complicated at all i could do that tonight
[2024-05-14 08:37:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i can already imagine a simple script that takes a match end and calculates points based on position - not complicated at all i could do that tonight
[2024-05-14 08:37:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 1st place: 100 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 1st place: 100 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 2nd place: 80 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 2nd place: 80 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 3rd place: 60 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 3rd place: 60 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 4th place: 50 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 4th place: 50 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 5th place: 40 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 5th place: 40 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 6th place: 30 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 6th place: 30 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 7th place: 20 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 7th place: 20 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 8th place: 10 points
[2024-05-14 08:37:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 8th place: 10 points
[2024-05-14 08:38:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| for now at least i think theres value in rewarding points to people that do absolutely nothing except show up
[2024-05-14 08:38:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| for now at least i think theres value in rewarding points to people that do absolutely nothing except show up
[2024-05-14 08:39:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i love this but i think this works well down the line where the progression element is better described/incentivised
[2024-05-14 08:39:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i love this but i think this works well down the line where the progression element is better described/incentivised
[2024-05-14 08:40:08] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| The problem with the long-term progression thing is that newer players aren't going to be looking that far ahead
[2024-05-14 08:40:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| The problem with the long-term progression thing is that newer players aren't going to be looking that far ahead
[2024-05-14 08:41:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| We simply want them to come back tomorrow and try again. For a more complex system we could have a system that awards more points for let's say your first few wins and progressively awards less points per win as you accumulate wins
[2024-05-14 08:41:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| We simply want them to come back tomorrow and try again. For a more complex system we could have a system that awards more points for let's say your first few wins and progressively awards less points per win as you accumulate wins
[2024-05-14 08:41:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| they might if they are told about it
[2024-05-14 08:41:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| they might if they are told about it
[2024-05-14 08:42:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah but thats where the long term part comes in - theyll for sure be convinced eventually but to begin with boots on the ground feels like the priority
[2024-05-14 08:42:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| yeah but thats where the long term part comes in - theyll for sure be convinced eventually but to begin with boots on the ground feels like the priority
[2024-05-14 08:42:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i think this is converging into a very viable solution - one thing im thinking about is scale - dont want a situation where matches/servers are full and people are waiting
[2024-05-14 08:42:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i think this is converging into a very viable solution - one thing im thinking about is scale - dont want a situation where matches/servers are full and people are waiting
[2024-05-14 08:42:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| (nice problem to have)
[2024-05-14 08:42:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| (nice problem to have)
[2024-05-14 08:42:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| do we have the ability to horizontally scale
[2024-05-14 08:42:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| do we have the ability to horizontally scale
[2024-05-14 08:44:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So like if we put up multiple servers and your points gained in that server will be accumulated with points you earned in the other server(s)?
[2024-05-14 08:44:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| So like if we put up multiple servers and your points gained in that server will be accumulated with points you earned in the other server(s)?
[2024-05-14 08:44:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| exactly
[2024-05-14 08:44:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| exactly
[2024-05-14 08:44:43] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sounds like it'd be easy to do on our end but I don't known how well that could be done in server
[2024-05-14 08:44:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sounds like it'd be easy to do on our end but I don't known how well that could be done in server
[2024-05-14 08:44:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| easy enough to link to global ids but that requires logins which is a bit of a barrier to the new plaer experience
[2024-05-14 08:44:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| easy enough to link to global ids but that requires logins which is a bit of a barrier to the new plaer experience
[2024-05-14 08:44:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| If the script just reads and writes to a local db, piss easy
[2024-05-14 08:44:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| If the script just reads and writes to a local db, piss easy
[2024-05-14 08:45:08] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yeah it would be nice if we could find a solution to the login thing
[2024-05-14 08:45:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yeah it would be nice if we could find a solution to the login thing
[2024-05-14 08:45:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i have a connect with discord solution cooking but i also want to support players that are potentially not on the discord
[2024-05-14 08:45:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i have a connect with discord solution cooking but i also want to support players that are potentially not on the discord
[2024-05-14 08:45:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| could just link by IP
[2024-05-14 08:45:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| could just link by IP
[2024-05-14 08:45:44] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Even if it was simply put in a command and to the server and then enter in a password which would relate to your username so that when you log in again you simply and put the command type in your password and it knows who you are
[2024-05-14 08:45:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Even if it was simply put in a command and to the server and then enter in a password which would relate to your username so that when you log in again you simply and put the command type in your password and it knows who you are
[2024-05-14 08:45:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| nah, IPs change
[2024-05-14 08:45:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| nah, IPs change
[2024-05-14 08:45:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| mac address? lmao
[2024-05-14 08:45:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| mac address? lmao
[2024-05-14 08:46:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| some hardware identifier would be ideal requires 0 setup for the user
[2024-05-14 08:46:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| some hardware identifier would be ideal requires 0 setup for the user
[2024-05-14 08:46:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| and if they change their machine?
[2024-05-14 08:46:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and if they change their machine?
[2024-05-14 08:46:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| or play on another machine?
[2024-05-14 08:46:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| or play on another machine?
[2024-05-14 08:46:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| tell an admin :animeshrug:
[2024-05-14 08:46:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| tell an admin :animeshrug:
[2024-05-14 08:46:40] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| And like I said if it could just be a command with a password then wouldn't that be easy enough?
[2024-05-14 08:46:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| And like I said if it could just be a command with a password then wouldn't that be easy enough?
[2024-05-14 08:47:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| logins are ideal imo, we just have to provide a clear journey. And tbf, we gotta stop dumbing down the internet in general
[2024-05-14 08:47:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| logins are ideal imo, we just have to provide a clear journey. And tbf, we gotta stop dumbing down the internet in general
[2024-05-14 08:47:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| how do you imagine this working? a password per user? how do we distribute them?
[2024-05-14 08:47:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| how do you imagine this working? a password per user? how do we distribute them?
[2024-05-14 08:47:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i generally agree on not dumbing down the internet but knowing your audience is key to marketing
[2024-05-14 08:47:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i generally agree on not dumbing down the internet but knowing your audience is key to marketing
[2024-05-14 08:48:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| and questions about match results with <8 players how should that be weighted? immediately im thinking on starting on the bottom end ie winning a match of 2 players gets you 20 points instead of 100
[2024-05-14 08:48:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| and questions about match results with <8 players how should that be weighted? immediately im thinking on starting on the bottom end ie winning a match of 2 players gets you 20 points instead of 100
[2024-05-14 08:48:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if we agree on a points based system
[2024-05-14 08:48:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| if we agree on a points based system
[2024-05-14 08:48:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Like let's say you enter the command and it prompts you for a password you put in your password of choice and if none match then it creates a new entry. When you return repeat the steps and it accumate your points from the previous sessions(s)
[2024-05-14 08:48:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Like let's say you enter the command and it prompts you for a password you put in your password of choice and if none match then it creates a new entry. When you return repeat the steps and it accumate your points from the previous sessions(s)
[2024-05-14 08:49:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| whilst a cool idea in theory that requires updates to the game itself which is not easy to do/distribute
[2024-05-14 08:49:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| whilst a cool idea in theory that requires updates to the game itself which is not easy to do/distribute
[2024-05-14 08:49:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you're essentially recreating the authentication flow which we already have
[2024-05-14 08:49:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| you're essentially recreating the authentication flow which we already have
[2024-05-14 08:50:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| being able to create a login ingame would be fire
[2024-05-14 08:50:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| being able to create a login ingame would be fire
[2024-05-14 08:50:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| outside of the scope of this project i feel though
[2024-05-14 08:50:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| outside of the scope of this project i feel though
[2024-05-14 08:50:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean it would only need to write it to a file? Like you enter your command and password and it puts your name with that password on the file and then puts your points on it then when you play again and do the same then it will simply add your points to that entry. I'm just trying to make it as simple as possible in my mind cuz I actually don't know what we can and can't do here
[2024-05-14 08:50:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean it would only need to write it to a file? Like you enter your command and password and it puts your name with that password on the file and then puts your points on it then when you play again and do the same then it will simply add your points to that entry. I'm just trying to make it as simple as possible in my mind cuz I actually don't know what we can and can't do here
[2024-05-14 08:52:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But I just figured if we have the ability to track usernames and points on a leaderboard and it seemed logical that we could add a step of matching your "password" to the entry instead of your in-game name
[2024-05-14 08:52:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| But I just figured if we have the ability to track usernames and points on a leaderboard and it seemed logical that we could add a step of matching your "password" to the entry instead of your in-game name
[2024-05-14 08:54:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I imagine that you wouldn't have to do anything fancy as a real authentication system. I simply records what password you entered and matches it to your accumulated points
[2024-05-14 08:54:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I imagine that you wouldn't have to do anything fancy as a real authentication system. I simply records what password you entered and matches it to your accumulated points
[2024-05-14 08:55:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But anyways as soon as you guys get a server up I will start playing on it
[2024-05-14 08:55:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| But anyways as soon as you guys get a server up I will start playing on it
[2024-05-14 08:56:12] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just make sure it's nice and stable because no one likes to play on a shit server
[2024-05-14 08:56:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just make sure it's nice and stable because no one likes to play on a shit server
[2024-05-14 09:01:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| as an ex security analyst i just get big red flags at anything authentication based that doesnt have SOTA methods attached. stick to industry standards and you cant go wrong
[2024-05-14 09:01:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| as an ex security analyst i just get big red flags at anything authentication based that doesnt have SOTA methods attached. stick to industry standards and you cant go wrong
[2024-05-14 09:01:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| your idea of a file works fine for a local computer (putting aside encryption at rest) but doesnt work when a user changes computers
[2024-05-14 09:01:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| your idea of a file works fine for a local computer (putting aside encryption at rest) but doesnt work when a user changes computers
[2024-05-14 09:01:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| then we're back to square 1 of just using a database to store such methods and thats literally what the logins do
[2024-05-14 09:01:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| then we're back to square 1 of just using a database to store such methods and thats literally what the logins do
[2024-05-14 09:02:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we have basically no pratical research on the UX of creating a login though. maybe its just fine how it is and we link GIDs and just recommend users to make accounts on the forums
[2024-05-14 09:02:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| we have basically no pratical research on the UX of creating a login though. maybe its just fine how it is and we link GIDs and just recommend users to make accounts on the forums
[2024-05-14 09:05:21] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ya what I'm proposing would be unsecured as all hell and somebody would look for a way to exploit it because it was an open door...
[2024-05-14 09:05:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ya what I'm proposing would be unsecured as all hell and somebody would look for a way to exploit it because it was an open door...
[2024-05-14 09:06:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but at the same time focusing too much on edge cases slows down overall implementation massively. lets not reinvent the wheel and just deploy something we know we can get working today. ill deliver an overview now
[2024-05-14 09:06:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| but at the same time focusing too much on edge cases slows down overall implementation massively. lets not reinvent the wheel and just deploy something we know we can get working today. ill deliver an overview now
[2024-05-14 09:06:34] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But it seemed at least a step better than just tracking by username or IP alone
[2024-05-14 09:06:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| But it seemed at least a step better than just tracking by username or IP alone
[2024-05-14 09:07:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly lots of games for years have had a sign up page so it's not really that big of a deal. Maybe we can just have the link directly to the sign up page on the forum and that should be easy enough to handle for most users
[2024-05-14 09:07:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly lots of games for years have had a sign up page so it's not really that big of a deal. Maybe we can just have the link directly to the sign up page on the forum and that should be easy enough to handle for most users
[2024-05-14 09:08:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's hardly asking for much when there is money to be won
[2024-05-14 09:08:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's hardly asking for much when there is money to be won
[2024-05-14 09:08:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we can incentivise donations to the prize pool by having special thanks both on the discord and on the message of the day in the server itself
[2024-05-14 09:08:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| we can incentivise donations to the prize pool by having special thanks both on the discord and on the message of the day in the server itself
[2024-05-14 09:09:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh I didn't finish my thought but I meant to say that the link to the sign-up page should be displayed at the start of a round or something like we do with the discord link
[2024-05-14 09:09:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh I didn't finish my thought but I meant to say that the link to the sign-up page should be displayed at the start of a round or something like we do with the discord link
[2024-05-14 09:10:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I forgot about the message of the day thing, that could explain everything right there
[2024-05-14 09:10:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I forgot about the message of the day thing, that could explain everything right there
[2024-05-14 09:10:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Nah I'm thinking of the message that pops up when you join, what's that called? Or is that what that's called?
[2024-05-14 09:10:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Nah I'm thinking of the message that pops up when you join, what's that called? Or is that what that's called?
[2024-05-14 09:10:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yep thats what that is
[2024-05-14 09:10:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| yep thats what that is
[2024-05-14 09:11:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ok glad I'm on the right page after all
[2024-05-14 09:11:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ok glad I'm on the right page after all
[2024-05-14 09:16:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Problem**: People don't play the game in public servers which makes it essentially impossible to practice in order to take part in the structured tournaments
[2024-05-14 09:16:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Problem**: People don't play the game in public servers which makes it essentially impossible to practice in order to take part in the structured tournaments
[2024-05-14 09:16:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Solution**: We're going to implement a "Sumo Bar Casual League - SBCL" (name work in progress) that rewards players for both participation as well as victory.
[2024-05-14 09:16:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Solution**: We're going to implement a "Sumo Bar Casual League - SBCL" (name work in progress) that rewards players for both participation as well as victory.
[2024-05-14 09:16:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Details** 
[2024-05-14 09:16:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Details** 
[2024-05-14 09:16:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 1. Games are played as and when at least 2 players are in any official SBCL server
[2024-05-14 09:16:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 1. Games are played as and when at least 2 players are in any official SBCL server
[2024-05-14 09:16:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 2. Rewards are distributed to the top 3 players with the most points on a monthly basis (in a ratio of 50/30/20)
[2024-05-14 09:16:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 2. Rewards are distributed to the top 3 players with the most points on a monthly basis (in a ratio of 50/30/20)
[2024-05-14 09:16:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 3. You get points by participating in and winning SBCL matches
[2024-05-14 09:16:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 3. You get points by participating in and winning SBCL matches
[2024-05-14 09:16:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 4. The points distribution is as follows:
[2024-05-14 09:16:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 4. The points distribution is as follows:
[2024-05-14 09:16:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **1st place: 100 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **1st place: 100 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 2nd place: 80 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 2nd place: 80 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 3rd place: 60 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 3rd place: 60 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 4th place: 50 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 4th place: 50 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 5th place: 40 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 5th place: 40 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 6th place: 30 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 6th place: 30 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 7th place: 20 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 7th place: 20 points
[2024-05-14 09:16:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 8th place: 10 points**
[2024-05-14 09:16:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 8th place: 10 points**
[2024-05-14 09:16:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 5. Points are connected to a Global ID (@forums or any other valid GID)
[2024-05-14 09:16:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 5. Points are connected to a Global ID (@forums or any other valid GID)
[2024-05-14 09:16:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 6. Collusion, cheating, unsportsmanlike play and other related offences will result in a penalty ranging from points deduction to disqualification
[2024-05-14 09:16:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 6. Collusion, cheating, unsportsmanlike play and other related offences will result in a penalty ranging from points deduction to disqualification
[2024-05-14 09:16:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 7. Feedback is welcome on the discord
[2024-05-14 09:16:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 7. Feedback is welcome on the discord
[2024-05-14 09:16:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| 8. The organisers reserve the right to propose and implement updates to the structure of the SBCL during the transition period before the next month (defined by 1 week before month end)
[2024-05-14 09:16:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 8. The organisers reserve the right to propose and implement updates to the structure of the SBCL during the transition period before the next month (defined by 1 week before month end)
[2024-05-14 09:16:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| ---
[2024-05-14 09:16:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ---
[2024-05-14 09:16:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Work in progress
[2024-05-14 09:16:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Work in progress
[2024-05-14 09:16:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| whatdya think
[2024-05-14 09:16:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| whatdya think
[2024-05-14 09:17:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| need to propose an association that can meet somewhat regularly to discuss problems/solutions to the structure to avoid the orphanage
[2024-05-14 09:17:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| need to propose an association that can meet somewhat regularly to discuss problems/solutions to the structure to avoid the orphanage
[2024-05-14 09:21:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Looks good to me
[2024-05-14 09:21:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Looks good to me
[2024-05-14 11:21:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Maybe we should add a server with fort settings that's just a normal game mode so people have something to use to get used to the feel if sumo is a bit much for them when it's full
[2024-05-14 11:21:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Maybe we should add a server with fort settings that's just a normal game mode so people have something to use to get used to the feel if sumo is a bit much for them when it's full
[2024-05-14 11:26:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| do you mean like Deathmatch? or just public fort?
[2024-05-14 11:26:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| do you mean like Deathmatch? or just public fort?
[2024-05-14 11:28:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Deathmatch
[2024-05-14 11:28:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Deathmatch
[2024-05-14 11:28:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| that already exists 😄
[2024-05-14 11:28:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| that already exists 😄
[2024-05-14 11:28:44] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well what's it called? Maybe we should add something about it to the message of the day thing
[2024-05-14 11:28:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well what's it called? Maybe we should add something about it to the message of the day thing
[2024-05-14 11:28:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| For our new servers
[2024-05-14 11:28:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| For our new servers
[2024-05-14 11:29:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1239962715951337482/image.png?ex=6644d4c4&is=66438344&hm=f502a23324b3c7b4ebeedb1777ab37f56ebc5138685fdc37f48a006d20ad621e&
[2024-05-14 11:29:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1239962715951337482/image.png?ex=6644d4c4&is=66438344&hm=f502a23324b3c7b4ebeedb1777ab37f56ebc5138685fdc37f48a006d20ad621e&
[2024-05-14 11:29:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| also :POG: CTWF is back
[2024-05-14 11:29:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| also :POG: CTWF is back
[2024-05-14 11:29:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh the one called deathmatch is fort settings?
[2024-05-14 11:29:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh the one called deathmatch is fort settings?
[2024-05-14 11:30:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| sumo/fort settings yep
[2024-05-14 11:30:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| sumo/fort settings yep
[2024-05-14 11:30:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I still don't know what the deal with ctwf is lol
[2024-05-14 11:30:20] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I still don't know what the deal with ctwf is lol
[2024-05-14 11:30:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| try it
[2024-05-14 11:30:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| try it
[2024-05-14 11:30:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| its fort but with wild maps and settings
[2024-05-14 11:30:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| its fort but with wild maps and settings
[2024-05-14 11:30:53] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh ok
[2024-05-14 11:30:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh ok
[2024-05-14 11:31:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it was a great way to get people into fort back in the day
[2024-05-14 11:31:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| it was a great way to get people into fort back in the day
[2024-05-14 11:31:16] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I see
[2024-05-14 11:31:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I see
[2024-05-14 11:31:46] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But yeah I brought up my idea because we had someone in lava bar with us that was struggling to even do a triple bind and probably didn't have double binds set up but we did try and explain it and then they left
[2024-05-14 11:31:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| But yeah I brought up my idea because we had someone in lava bar with us that was struggling to even do a triple bind and probably didn't have double binds set up but we did try and explain it and then they left
[2024-05-14 11:32:03] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| And right about that time is when more people started joining which makes it hard for the newer players
[2024-05-14 11:32:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| And right about that time is when more people started joining which makes it hard for the newer players
[2024-05-14 11:32:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So hypothetically I could have invited them to play death match with me to get them used to the basics
[2024-05-14 11:32:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| So hypothetically I could have invited them to play death match with me to get them used to the basics
[2024-05-14 12:35:20] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Correct Kevin I sometimes actually like playing death match it's slightly lower rubber which makes 5 feel alot more easier
[2024-05-14 12:35:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Correct Kevin I sometimes actually like playing death match it's slightly lower rubber which makes 5 feel alot more easier
[2024-05-14 12:37:22] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Kinda think might need to make lavas ring alittle bigger at start with more players lol once you get 8 in there it's like go towards middle and try to survive lol
[2024-05-14 12:37:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Kinda think might need to make lavas ring alittle bigger at start with more players lol once you get 8 in there it's like go towards middle and try to survive lol
[2024-05-14 12:39:51] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| it's auto size adjusting based on the number of players
[2024-05-14 12:39:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| it's auto size adjusting based on the number of players
[2024-05-14 12:39:54] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| a titanoboa innovation
[2024-05-14 12:39:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| a titanoboa innovation
[2024-05-14 12:41:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| But what is the player .. Size adjustments maybe it's just when your on the verge of peaking
[2024-05-14 12:41:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| But what is the player .. Size adjustments maybe it's just when your on the verge of peaking
[2024-05-14 12:59:12] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| Deathmatch is superior for new players based on respawn enabled alone, also it should be 5 rubber but rookie put it lower to practice mazing and never put it back
[2024-05-14 12:59:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| Deathmatch is superior for new players based on respawn enabled alone, also it should be 5 rubber but rookie put it lower to practice mazing and never put it back
[2024-05-14 13:09:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| So blame the rookie lol?
[2024-05-14 13:09:20] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| So blame the rookie lol?
[2024-05-14 13:11:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| @justkoala. Anything to stop em from being an unpredictable sub main right lol
[2024-05-14 13:11:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| @justkoala. Anything to stop em from being an unpredictable sub main right lol
[2024-05-14 16:24:58] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| what kind of resources would be required to have bots to occupy an empty server? something like yellow sub's "normal thomas" who plays decently human-like and takes up a user slot. i can't help but think some traffic generated by tiktok (or in general) has be stifled by a completely empty master server list
[2024-05-14 16:24:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:anjo3060| what kind of resources would be required to have bots to occupy an empty server? something like yellow sub's "normal thomas" who plays decently human-like and takes up a user slot. i can't help but think some traffic generated by tiktok (or in general) has be stifled by a completely empty master server list
[2024-05-14 16:29:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:anjo3060| hard to gain / retain players when there's simply nothing to play
[2024-05-14 16:29:03] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| hard to gain / retain players when there's simply nothing to play
[2024-05-14 17:07:48] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| I would agree normal Thomas being more normal would help .. That can answer questions of the common tron questions does help
[2024-05-14 17:07:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| I would agree normal Thomas being more normal would help .. That can answer questions of the common tron questions does help
[2024-05-14 17:17:23] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Will say he helped new people hang around longer till real people came in sometimes new people gets frustrated with his survivability and to pt edges lol
[2024-05-14 17:17:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Will say he helped new people hang around longer till real people came in sometimes new people gets frustrated with his survivability and to pt edges lol
[2024-05-14 17:50:01] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:sqwigel| Hello I’m new to this game any one got some good settings for me?
[2024-05-14 17:50:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:sqwigel| Hello I’m new to this game any one got some good settings for me?
[2024-05-14 18:04:18] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| yeah so  basically a "normal thomas" that sits in a server while it would be otherwise empty, then leaves once multiple players have joined
[2024-05-14 18:04:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| yeah so  basically a "normal thomas" that sits in a server while it would be otherwise empty, then leaves once multiple players have joined
[2024-05-14 18:05:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| I would presume so I would set the limit to a few people I don't mind playing Thomas other people do lol
[2024-05-14 18:05:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| I would presume so I would set the limit to a few people I don't mind playing Thomas other people do lol
[2024-05-14 18:07:15] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i've had a desire to make a sumo bot that plays relatively human-like but it seems quite daunting
[2024-05-14 18:07:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| i've had a desire to make a sumo bot that plays relatively human-like but it seems quite daunting
[2024-05-14 18:07:48] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Yes I recall you loading em up other night
[2024-05-14 18:07:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Yes I recall you loading em up other night
[2024-05-14 18:09:53] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Only time Thomas bothers me is when there are like three people and you cant ever battle real person cause Thomas is dividing and concurring lol
[2024-05-14 18:09:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Only time Thomas bothers me is when there are like three people and you cant ever battle real person cause Thomas is dividing and concurring lol
[2024-05-14 18:13:03] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| Welcome! The biggest tip for beginners is to use multiple keys for turning each direction
[2024-05-14 18:13:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| Welcome! The biggest tip for beginners is to use multiple keys for turning each direction
[2024-05-14 18:13:19] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| For example, d+f for left and j+k for right
[2024-05-14 18:13:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| For example, d+f for left and j+k for right
[2024-05-14 18:15:42] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| Besides that, most setting options are based on preference, and what is best for you will also depend on which servers you decide to play in most
[2024-05-14 18:15:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| Besides that, most setting options are based on preference, and what is best for you will also depend on which servers you decide to play in most
[2024-05-14 18:21:01] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:sqwigel| Thank you
[2024-05-14 18:21:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:sqwigel| Thank you
[2024-05-14 18:21:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well do we need rookie to fix that?
[2024-05-14 18:21:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well do we need rookie to fix that?
[2024-05-14 18:22:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:anjo3060| yea exactly. just to keep servers active and populated for new players to get a chance to play at any time. a sumo bot might not be as necessary as deathmatch and/or yellow sub
[2024-05-14 18:22:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| yea exactly. just to keep servers active and populated for new players to get a chance to play at any time. a sumo bot might not be as necessary as deathmatch and/or yellow sub
[2024-05-14 18:22:55] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I've always wanted there to be a sumo bot lol
[2024-05-14 18:22:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I've always wanted there to be a sumo bot lol
[2024-05-14 18:23:22] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:sqwigel| Douse any one know why I’m not in full screen? It’s windowed
[2024-05-14 18:23:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:sqwigel| Douse any one know why I’m not in full screen? It’s windowed
[2024-05-14 18:24:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Go to system settings and then I think screen preferences switch to full screen and click apply
[2024-05-14 18:24:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Go to system settings and then I think screen preferences switch to full screen and click apply
[2024-05-14 18:26:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| There is .. Its me or you lol
[2024-05-14 18:26:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| There is .. Its me or you lol
[2024-05-14 18:27:20] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| If you go into window after full screen try hitting letter N on keyboard
[2024-05-14 18:27:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| If you go into window after full screen try hitting letter N on keyboard
[2024-05-14 18:29:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:sqwigel| It worked thank you guys
[2024-05-14 18:29:19] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:sqwigel| It worked thank you guys
[2024-05-14 20:17:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @rookie0069 I hear you lowered the rubber in Deathmatch! can you reset it?
[2024-05-14 20:17:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| @rookie0069 I hear you lowered the rubber in Deathmatch! can you reset it?
[2024-05-14 20:34:24] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| wrong rookie
[2024-05-14 20:34:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| wrong rookie
[2024-05-14 20:35:54] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well woops
[2024-05-14 20:35:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well woops
[2024-05-14 20:35:56] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i also have powers there though so ill change it back
[2024-05-14 20:35:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| i also have powers there though so ill change it back
[2024-05-14 20:36:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| ah thx Nelg
[2024-05-14 20:36:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| ah thx Nelg
[2024-05-14 20:43:04] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Nelg .. Is that what you do when your watching .. Summoning tron chi power lol
[2024-05-14 20:43:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Nelg .. Is that what you do when your watching .. Summoning tron chi power lol
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[2024-05-14 22:34:40] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I finally brought my van home.  Tomorrow is the first day they can give me a 24 hour notice to vacate, so if I do a load in the van tonight, and another one tomorrow, I should be able to preserve some more things, but I'm abandoning stuff I may not even use for years, if ever.
[2024-05-14 22:34:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, I finally brought my van home.  Tomorrow is the first day they can give me a 24 hour notice to vacate, so if I do a load in the van tonight, and another one tomorrow, I should be able to preserve some more things, but I'm abandoning stuff I may not even use for years, if ever.
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[2024-05-14 22:38:33] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I finally brought my van home.  Tomorrow is the first day they can give me a 24 hour notice to vacate, so if I do a load in the van tonight, and another one tomorrow, I should be able to preserve some more things, but I'm abandoning stuff I may not even use for years, if ever.
[2024-05-14 22:38:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, I finally brought my van home.  Tomorrow is the first day they can give me a 24 hour notice to vacate, so if I do a load in the van tonight, and another one tomorrow, I should be able to preserve some more things, but I'm abandoning stuff I may not even use for years, if ever.
[2024-05-14 22:38:35] <Lucifer_arma> I'll do before pics in the next few days, before I get too crazy with the RV conversion
[2024-05-14 22:38:35] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll do before pics in the next few days, before I get too crazy with the RV conversion
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[2024-05-14 22:39:35] <Lucifer_arma> What the hell?  Everytime I type something, I lose network.
[2024-05-14 22:39:35] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| What the hell?  Everytime I type something, I lose network.
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[2024-05-15 00:05:14] <Lucifer_arma> So something about my van, blahblahblah
[2024-05-15 00:05:14] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| So something about my van, blahblahblah
[2024-05-15 00:05:44] <Lucifer_arma> ok, didn't lose network with that.  I'll repeat what I said earlier to make sure it got through.
[2024-05-15 00:05:44] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, didn't lose network with that.  I'll repeat what I said earlier to make sure it got through.
[2024-05-15 00:05:48] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I finally brought my van home.  Tomorrow is the first day they can give me a 24 hour notice to vacate, so if I do a load in the van tonight, and another one tomorrow, I should be able to preserve some more things, but I'm abandoning stuff I may not even use for years, if ever.
[2024-05-15 00:05:49] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ok, I finally brought my van home.  Tomorrow is the first day they can give me a 24 hour notice to vacate, so if I do a load in the van tonight, and another one tomorrow, I should be able to preserve some more things, but I'm abandoning stuff I may not even use for years, if ever.
[2024-05-15 00:05:53] <Lucifer_arma> I'll do before pics in the next few days, before I get too crazy with the RV conversion
[2024-05-15 00:05:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll do before pics in the next few days, before I get too crazy with the RV conversion
[2024-05-15 00:06:02] <Lucifer_arma> ping
[2024-05-15 00:06:02] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| ping
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[2024-05-15 00:46:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| pong
[2024-05-15 00:46:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| pong
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[2024-05-15 03:25:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| `64 bytes from Nanu: icmp_seq=1 ttl=117 time=9.256 ms`
[2024-05-15 03:25:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| `64 bytes from Nanu: icmp_seq=1 ttl=117 time=9.256 ms`
[2024-05-15 04:10:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| 2460000ms so maybe I’m somewhere in the solar system
[2024-05-15 04:10:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| 2460000ms so maybe I’m somewhere in the solar system
[2024-05-15 06:02:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma: sent that three times. Also we need those van pics, I'm quite intrigued
[2024-05-15 06:02:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma: sent that three times. Also we need those van pics, I'm quite intrigued
[2024-05-15 06:50:13] <Lucifer_arma> I'll do the pics on the forums.  Patience, my padawan
[2024-05-15 06:50:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll do the pics on the forums.  Patience, my padawan
[2024-05-15 06:51:23] <Lucifer_arma> I had to get the fucker running first, after getting it towed twice, and so forth.  It's still in the unmodified condition.  There's no value to seeing it in it's previous condition.
[2024-05-15 06:51:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I had to get the fucker running first, after getting it towed twice, and so forth.  It's still in the unmodified condition.  There's no value to seeing it in it's previous condition.
[2024-05-15 06:52:53] <Lucifer_arma> Up until now, it's just a mechanic story.  Now it's worth pursuing, but I have to do some moving first, using the van.  I have to move some shit that I dont' want to lose in the eviction.
[2024-05-15 06:52:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Up until now, it's just a mechanic story.  Now it's worth pursuing, but I have to do some moving first, using the van.  I have to move some shit that I dont' want to lose in the eviction.
[2024-05-15 06:53:56] <Lucifer_arma> I'll do some video on my youtube channel.  It'll be good filler.
[2024-05-15 06:53:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll do some video on my youtube channel.  It'll be good filler.
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[2024-05-15 13:04:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://maze.syntron.uk/
[2024-05-15 13:04:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://maze.syntron.uk/
[2024-05-15 13:04:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I built a thing
[2024-05-15 13:04:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I built a thing
[2024-05-15 13:05:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| use arrow keys to make mazes
[2024-05-15 13:05:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| use arrow keys to make mazes
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[2024-05-15 13:06:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| then share the link to your creation like dis
[2024-05-15 13:06:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| then share the link to your creation like dis
[2024-05-15 13:06:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://maze.syntron.uk/?maze=FhYWFhYUBjYlNjY2NQYWJRYWFAUWFSUWFQYFNjY2NjYmFgUWFhYVJjYFNjY0JTY1BgQ2NAU=
[2024-05-15 13:06:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://maze.syntron.uk/?maze=FhYWFhYUBjYlNjY2NQYWJRYWFAUWFSUWFQYFNjY2NjYmFgUWFhYVJjYFNjY0JTY1BgQ2NAU=
[2024-05-15 13:06:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| my encoding scheme is hacky sorry
[2024-05-15 13:06:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| my encoding scheme is hacky sorry
[2024-05-15 13:44:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc what language you write that in?
[2024-05-15 13:44:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc what language you write that in?
[2024-05-15 13:49:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| typescript
[2024-05-15 13:49:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| typescript
[2024-05-15 13:49:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| my main ting
[2024-05-15 13:49:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| my main ting
[2024-05-15 14:06:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| whipping this one out in my next game, be ready
[2024-05-15 14:06:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| whipping this one out in my next game, be ready
[2024-05-15 14:06:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1240364755047415968/image.png?ex=66464b32&is=6644f9b2&hm=e0179d31e1c17cb6322020a1bc8e87de76b742fa4fce30e05fa5c6061a8564c8&
[2024-05-15 14:06:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1240364755047415968/image.png?ex=66464b32&is=6644f9b2&hm=e0179d31e1c17cb6322020a1bc8e87de76b742fa4fce30e05fa5c6061a8564c8&
[2024-05-15 14:21:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:magi_cake| AC-130 ABOVE
[2024-05-15 14:21:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:magi_cake| AC-130 ABOVE
[2024-05-15 14:22:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the forbidden line cross 😥
[2024-05-15 14:22:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| the forbidden line cross 😥
[2024-05-15 14:22:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| on my to do list is to make it so collisions are forbidden but for now i just wanted something i could use to visualise mazes i wanna try
[2024-05-15 14:22:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| on my to do list is to make it so collisions are forbidden but for now i just wanted something i could use to visualise mazes i wanna try
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[2024-05-15 14:49:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| kinda fun. Something like short-uuid would fix those uber-urls
[2024-05-15 14:49:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| kinda fun. Something like short-uuid would fix those uber-urls
[2024-05-15 14:49:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| actually shit, this would be incredibly useful for #challenges
[2024-05-15 14:49:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| actually shit, this would be incredibly useful for #challenges
[2024-05-15 15:07:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| short uuid is a great idea ty
[2024-05-15 15:07:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| short uuid is a great idea ty
[2024-05-15 19:57:24] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:zorb| regarding the stuff in announcements do i gaf?
[2024-05-15 19:57:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:zorb| regarding the stuff in announcements do i gaf?
[2024-05-15 19:57:29] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:zorb| w my normal arma install
[2024-05-15 19:57:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:zorb| w my normal arma install
[2024-05-15 19:59:08] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| only applies to linux andys
[2024-05-15 19:59:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| only applies to linux andys
[2024-05-15 20:03:00] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @northernscrub @syn_acc so what's our next step in the sumobar plans we were cooking?
[2024-05-15 20:03:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| @northernscrub @syn_acc so what's our next step in the sumobar plans we were cooking?
[2024-05-15 20:08:23] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:magi_cake| @dorianv zorb sighting
[2024-05-15 20:08:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:magi_cake| @dorianv zorb sighting
[2024-05-15 20:09:48] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Zorbs alive lol
[2024-05-15 20:09:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Zorbs alive lol
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[2024-05-16 02:47:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - get some game severs up
[2024-05-16 02:47:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - get some game severs up
[2024-05-16 02:47:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - develop script to parse match results and send them to API
[2024-05-16 02:47:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - develop script to parse match results and send them to API
[2024-05-16 02:47:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - host leaderboard with live results
[2024-05-16 02:47:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - host leaderboard with live results
[2024-05-16 02:47:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - decide on a start date
[2024-05-16 02:47:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - decide on a start date
[2024-05-16 02:47:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - create promo materials and spread throughout the community
[2024-05-16 02:47:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - create promo materials and spread throughout the community
[2024-05-16 02:47:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| - (optional) automate payouts
[2024-05-16 02:47:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| - (optional) automate payouts
[2024-05-16 02:47:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| —-
[2024-05-16 02:47:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| —-
[2024-05-16 02:47:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| start playing some matches
[2024-05-16 02:47:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| start playing some matches
[2024-05-16 02:47:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Gonna get a domain today. Something dedicated to the cause. Will post options for a poll somewhere soon. Something like sumobarleague.com
[2024-05-16 02:47:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Gonna get a domain today. Something dedicated to the cause. Will post options for a poll somewhere soon. Something like sumobarleague.com
[2024-05-16 02:47:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| We gotta decide on a config set. Do we use titonoboa’s dynamic zone config? 
[2024-05-16 02:47:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| We gotta decide on a config set. Do we use titonoboa’s dynamic zone config? 
[2024-05-16 02:47:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I can develop the script to parse results. Will design some leaderboards today. Hopefully some promo ideas will come during dev
[2024-05-16 02:47:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I can develop the script to parse results. Will design some leaderboards today. Hopefully some promo ideas will come during dev
[2024-05-16 02:47:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Aiming for some kinda prototype by the weekend
[2024-05-16 02:47:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Aiming for some kinda prototype by the weekend
[2024-05-16 02:49:03] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| oh we're breaking sumobar league back?
[2024-05-16 02:49:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| oh we're breaking sumobar league back?
[2024-05-16 02:49:08] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| bringing
[2024-05-16 02:49:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| bringing
[2024-05-16 02:52:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| bringing it back in 2 district flavours
[2024-05-16 02:52:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| bringing it back in 2 district flavours
[2024-05-16 02:52:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| casual league - games all day everyday monthly cash prizes
[2024-05-16 02:52:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| casual league - games all day everyday monthly cash prizes
[2024-05-16 02:52:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| rated league - tbd
[2024-05-16 02:52:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| rated league - tbd
[2024-05-16 02:53:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| just wanna get cycles on the grid to start with
[2024-05-16 02:53:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| just wanna get cycles on the grid to start with
[2024-05-16 02:58:44] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| How many cycles you want lol
[2024-05-16 02:58:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| How many cycles you want lol
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[2024-05-16 03:15:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| hundreds of thousands
[2024-05-16 03:15:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| hundreds of thousands
[2024-05-16 03:15:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| how many you got?
[2024-05-16 03:15:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| how many you got?
[2024-05-16 03:16:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| enough to create a viral memetic vanguard that manifests into a literal global sporting phenomenon
[2024-05-16 03:16:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| enough to create a viral memetic vanguard that manifests into a literal global sporting phenomenon
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[2024-05-16 04:41:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I wanna see world tron tournaments like they do with RL lol
[2024-05-16 04:41:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I wanna see world tron tournaments like they do with RL lol
[2024-05-16 04:42:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I wanna say yes to titonoboa's dynamic config unless someone has a reason for another
[2024-05-16 04:42:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I wanna say yes to titonoboa's dynamic config unless someone has a reason for another
[2024-05-16 04:43:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| this is the plan
[2024-05-16 04:43:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| this is the plan
[2024-05-16 04:44:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| koala raises very valid points about the accessibility and complexity of our client and if it can take us there
[2024-05-16 04:44:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| koala raises very valid points about the accessibility and complexity of our client and if it can take us there
[2024-05-16 04:48:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| What are this points?
[2024-05-16 04:48:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| What are this points?
[2024-05-16 04:51:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Simplified Client Interface**: Reduce choices, streamline menus, and enhance the single-player experience to make the game more accessible and intuitive for new players.
[2024-05-16 04:51:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Simplified Client Interface**: Reduce choices, streamline menus, and enhance the single-player experience to make the game more accessible and intuitive for new players.
[2024-05-16 04:51:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Beginner-Friendly Onboarding**: Clearly explain the essential skills and tasks for new players, especially for complex modes like sumo, to lower the entry barrier.
[2024-05-16 04:51:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Beginner-Friendly Onboarding**: Clearly explain the essential skills and tasks for new players, especially for complex modes like sumo, to lower the entry barrier.
[2024-05-16 04:51:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Enhanced Tutorials and Guides**: Provide comprehensive, easy-to-follow tutorials and guides to help new players quickly learn the game's mechanics.
[2024-05-16 04:51:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Enhanced Tutorials and Guides**: Provide comprehensive, easy-to-follow tutorials and guides to help new players quickly learn the game's mechanics.
[2024-05-16 04:51:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Event-Driven Engagement:** Host large, well-promoted events to generate excitement, boost activity, and attract new players.
[2024-05-16 04:51:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Event-Driven Engagement:** Host large, well-promoted events to generate excitement, boost activity, and attract new players.
[2024-05-16 04:51:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Focused Social Media and Marketing**: Use targeted marketing strategies to improve conversion rates and attract a broader player base.
[2024-05-16 04:51:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Focused Social Media and Marketing**: Use targeted marketing strategies to improve conversion rates and attract a broader player base.
[2024-05-16 04:51:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Active Server Management**: Ensure at least two active servers at all times, making popular single-player modes like snake and tunnel trouble easily accessible.
[2024-05-16 04:51:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Active Server Management**: Ensure at least two active servers at all times, making popular single-player modes like snake and tunnel trouble easily accessible.
[2024-05-16 04:51:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| ~~**Retention Strategies**: Address the issue of empty servers by implementing strategies to retain new players and keep them engaged.~~ Tackled with SBCL
[2024-05-16 04:51:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ~~**Retention Strategies**: Address the issue of empty servers by implementing strategies to retain new players and keep them engaged.~~ Tackled with SBCL
[2024-05-16 04:51:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| **Improved Funding and Resources**: Seek better funding methods to support these improvements and sustain long-term growth.
[2024-05-16 04:51:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| **Improved Funding and Resources**: Seek better funding methods to support these improvements and sustain long-term growth.
[2024-05-16 04:51:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| These are not simple points at all so kinda starting top down
[2024-05-16 04:51:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| These are not simple points at all so kinda starting top down
[2024-05-16 04:52:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Hard agree on the client being unintuitive for beginners with many settings and recommended configurations being either obscured or flat out unavailable without console use
[2024-05-16 04:52:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Hard agree on the client being unintuitive for beginners with many settings and recommended configurations being either obscured or flat out unavailable without console use
[2024-05-16 04:52:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| But as I said this kinda mandates going into the c++ codebase which im not massively prepared to do yet. I think my dev time is better spent in the ecosystem for now. Client seems like a black hole
[2024-05-16 04:52:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| But as I said this kinda mandates going into the c++ codebase which im not massively prepared to do yet. I think my dev time is better spent in the ecosystem for now. Client seems like a black hole
[2024-05-16 05:02:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Something I had thought about is that there aren't any YouTube tutorials for armagetron of any kind. Like there are tutorials for everything in almost every video game that I've played in the last 10 years. So maybe someone even maybe myself made a how-to-basics video
[2024-05-16 05:02:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Something I had thought about is that there aren't any YouTube tutorials for armagetron of any kind. Like there are tutorials for everything in almost every video game that I've played in the last 10 years. So maybe someone even maybe myself made a how-to-basics video
[2024-05-16 05:02:56] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Maybe that would help newer players figure out what they're doing if they've just found the game and might start with looking up YouTube for help
[2024-05-16 05:02:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Maybe that would help newer players figure out what they're doing if they've just found the game and might start with looking up YouTube for help
[2024-05-16 05:13:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| interesting point. there is one for loose df some kid made years ago and to this day its one of the biggest tron videos out there
[2024-05-16 05:13:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| interesting point. there is one for loose df some kid made years ago and to this day its one of the biggest tron videos out there
[2024-05-16 05:14:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmIFTyWnipk
[2024-05-16 05:14:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmIFTyWnipk
[2024-05-16 05:31:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| maybe i could make a script from the wiki guide and record some stuff 🤔 i kinda suck at editing though
[2024-05-16 05:31:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| maybe i could make a script from the wiki guide and record some stuff 🤔 i kinda suck at editing though
[2024-05-16 05:31:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| any good editors around?
[2024-05-16 05:31:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| any good editors around?
[2024-05-16 05:51:02] <Lucifer_arma> Editing is an art, I'm still working on it
[2024-05-16 05:51:03] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Editing is an art, I'm still working on it
[2024-05-16 06:17:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Me too man. On the one hand I'd love to create in my own style using synths and retro vibes
[2024-05-16 06:17:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Me too man. On the one hand I'd love to create in my own style using synths and retro vibes
[2024-05-16 06:17:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| On the other hand I know what the kids want/are engaged by, phonk, quick transitions. Things that might not last the test of time. How to manage creative independence with audience satisfaction?
[2024-05-16 06:17:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| On the other hand I know what the kids want/are engaged by, phonk, quick transitions. Things that might not last the test of time. How to manage creative independence with audience satisfaction?
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[2024-05-16 10:30:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| keep the quick transition shite to tiktok and shorts, which I am blessed to never see unintentionally. For big stuff, Sine has some good examples. idk if he's still bothering much with editing though. @amazing_stories ?
[2024-05-16 10:30:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| keep the quick transition shite to tiktok and shorts, which I am blessed to never see unintentionally. For big stuff, Sine has some good examples. idk if he's still bothering much with editing though. @amazing_stories ?
[2024-05-16 10:43:21] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So id like to give some sorta tutorial/how to video a shot. What are some topics that would be best to cover first? Think of a day one players looking up tron tips/tutorial on YT for help
[2024-05-16 10:43:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| So id like to give some sorta tutorial/how to video a shot. What are some topics that would be best to cover first? Think of a day one players looking up tron tips/tutorial on YT for help
[2024-05-16 11:29:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| deli your subjective tastes are not the point of what i'm trying to achieve here
[2024-05-16 11:29:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| deli your subjective tastes are not the point of what i'm trying to achieve here
[2024-05-16 11:29:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm just being facetious
[2024-05-16 11:29:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I'm just being facetious
[2024-05-16 11:29:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i'm saying that despite what i wanna create i know thats how to keep the kids engaged
[2024-05-16 11:29:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i'm saying that despite what i wanna create i know thats how to keep the kids engaged
[2024-05-16 11:30:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| lol ik but still we gotta bend some kinda knee
[2024-05-16 11:30:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| lol ik but still we gotta bend some kinda knee
[2024-05-16 11:30:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| every generation creates abstractions that frustrate the previous ones
[2024-05-16 11:30:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| every generation creates abstractions that frustrate the previous ones
[2024-05-16 11:30:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| get with the times etc
[2024-05-16 11:30:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| get with the times etc
[2024-05-16 11:35:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| inputs 
[2024-05-16 11:35:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| inputs 
[2024-05-16 11:35:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| camera
[2024-05-16 11:35:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| camera
[2024-05-16 11:35:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| game types
[2024-05-16 11:35:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| game types
[2024-05-16 11:35:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| then game type specific tips
[2024-05-16 11:35:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| then game type specific tips
[2024-05-16 11:36:21] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hell just inputs and camera setup could be its own video
[2024-05-16 11:36:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hell just inputs and camera setup could be its own video
[2024-05-16 11:55:14] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| Phonky/quick transition/ memetic editing style of tron highlights hmmm
[2024-05-16 11:55:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:anjo3060| Phonky/quick transition/ memetic editing style of tron highlights hmmm
[2024-05-16 13:14:22] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Start it off with "Hi Chris fix here .. In another way to fix your weeks as tron gaming style" lol
[2024-05-16 13:14:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Start it off with "Hi Chris fix here .. In another way to fix your weeks as tron gaming style" lol
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[2024-05-16 16:49:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| https://retrocycles.net
[2024-05-16 16:49:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:sine.wav| https://retrocycles.net
[2024-05-16 16:50:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ah seems someone beat me to it then
[2024-05-16 16:50:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ah seems someone beat me to it then
[2024-05-16 20:29:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ripjaw121219| hello chat
[2024-05-16 20:29:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:ripjaw121219| hello chat
[2024-05-16 20:29:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:ripjaw121219| i havent been here in a while
[2024-05-16 20:29:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:ripjaw121219| i havent been here in a while
[2024-05-16 20:38:49] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:zorb| ya i been dating xoxo
[2024-05-16 20:38:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:zorb| ya i been dating xoxo
[2024-05-16 21:54:55] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| tron is the only partner you need
[2024-05-16 21:54:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| tron is the only partner you need
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[2024-05-17 02:05:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:rexaril| Yo I was just wondering how many hours it would take me to get good at retrocycles? I wanna start playing but if it’s like 1000 hours I don’t think it’d be worth playing
[2024-05-17 02:05:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:rexaril| Yo I was just wondering how many hours it would take me to get good at retrocycles? I wanna start playing but if it’s like 1000 hours I don’t think it’d be worth playing
[2024-05-17 02:30:27] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| @jawsome4922
[2024-05-17 02:30:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:painfulpaladins| @jawsome4922
[2024-05-17 02:46:55] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| @rexaril some people catch on better than others if you have someone show you the ropes it can take years off trying to figure it out yourself
[2024-05-17 02:46:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| @rexaril some people catch on better than others if you have someone show you the ropes it can take years off trying to figure it out yourself
[2024-05-17 04:26:34] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ppotter| it's a pretty simple game, if you're going to get good it's going to take way less than 1000 hours
[2024-05-17 04:26:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ppotter| it's a pretty simple game, if you're going to get good it's going to take way less than 1000 hours
[2024-05-17 04:27:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| inversely some people have way more than 1000 hours and still suck
[2024-05-17 04:27:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| inversely some people have way more than 1000 hours and still suck
[2024-05-17 04:27:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| just like any skill/discipline you get what you give
[2024-05-17 04:27:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| just like any skill/discipline you get what you give
[2024-05-17 04:40:24] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @rexaril messaged you
[2024-05-17 04:40:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| @rexaril messaged you
[2024-05-17 13:28:59] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:omnimeme.| Hi
[2024-05-17 13:28:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:omnimeme.| Hi
[2024-05-17 13:58:26] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| 👋
[2024-05-17 13:58:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| 👋
[2024-05-17 14:06:32] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:omnimeme.| What platforms is this game on?
[2024-05-17 14:06:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:omnimeme.| What platforms is this game on?
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[2024-05-17 14:34:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Pretty much every x86/64 and M1/2 platform
[2024-05-17 14:34:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Pretty much every x86/64 and M1/2 platform
[2024-05-17 14:35:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm fairly certain that, with a little fiddle, even an old powerPC mac will run it too
[2024-05-17 14:35:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I'm fairly certain that, with a little fiddle, even an old powerPC mac will run it too
[2024-05-17 14:35:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and ARM is easy enough to build for
[2024-05-17 14:35:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| and ARM is easy enough to build for
[2024-05-17 14:39:38] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| the older releases were universal binaries that will run fine on powerpc
[2024-05-17 14:39:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| the older releases were universal binaries that will run fine on powerpc
[2024-05-17 14:40:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| even better. I presume that includes 0.2.7?
[2024-05-17 14:40:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| even better. I presume that includes 0.2.7?
[2024-05-17 14:43:52] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i have no idea, but there's definitely [0.2.8/"0.2.9" builds](https://sourceforge.net/projects/armagetronad/files/snapshots/0.2.8/2011/0.2.9_alpha_r1373/) and [an 0.4 build](https://sourceforge.net/projects/armagetronad/files/snapshots/trunk/2012/0.4_alpha_z1965/)
[2024-05-17 14:43:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| i have no idea, but there's definitely [0.2.8/"0.2.9" builds](https://sourceforge.net/projects/armagetronad/files/snapshots/0.2.8/2011/0.2.9_alpha_r1373/) and [an 0.4 build](https://sourceforge.net/projects/armagetronad/files/snapshots/trunk/2012/0.4_alpha_z1965/)
[2024-05-17 14:44:10] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| 0.2.7 wouldn't be able to connect to any modern servers
[2024-05-17 14:44:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| 0.2.7 wouldn't be able to connect to any modern servers
[2024-05-17 14:44:52] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| oh wait
[2024-05-17 14:44:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| oh wait
[2024-05-17 14:44:55] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| neither of those links work
[2024-05-17 14:44:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| neither of those links work
[2024-05-17 14:59:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Wait... it wouldn't? I thought the threshhold was something much older. Or maybe the warnings abotu legacy clients are out of date
[2024-05-17 14:59:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Wait... it wouldn't? I thought the threshhold was something much older. Or maybe the warnings abotu legacy clients are out of date
[2024-05-17 16:15:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| windows/mac/linux
[2024-05-17 16:15:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| windows/mac/linux
[2024-05-17 16:15:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| u guys give some insane answers lmao KISS
[2024-05-17 16:15:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| u guys give some insane answers lmao KISS
[2024-05-17 16:23:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| well, linux is technically on RISC machines and a whole heap of others too, but not every lib might be on there
[2024-05-17 16:23:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, linux is technically on RISC machines and a whole heap of others too, but not every lib might be on there
[2024-05-17 16:56:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| “technically”
[2024-05-17 16:56:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| “technically”
[2024-05-17 16:57:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475
[2024-05-17 16:57:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475
[2024-05-17 17:04:26] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| actually yeah, if someone cares about the esoteric platforms they should ask about them directly
[2024-05-17 17:04:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| actually yeah, if someone cares about the esoteric platforms they should ask about them directly
[2024-05-17 19:40:19] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Exactly what I was thinking reading this lmao
[2024-05-17 19:40:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Exactly what I was thinking reading this lmao
[2024-05-17 19:42:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| As a kid I would’ve been like, ah I need some ancient shit to run this if these people are speaking to me in runes, and left the discord
[2024-05-17 19:42:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| As a kid I would’ve been like, ah I need some ancient shit to run this if these people are speaking to me in runes, and left the discord
[2024-05-17 19:48:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I am suitably chastised
[2024-05-17 19:48:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I am suitably chastised
[2024-05-17 19:50:26] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| For real you could have just said windows/mac/linux
[2024-05-17 19:50:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| For real you could have just said windows/mac/linux
[2024-05-17 19:50:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I didn't even have an idea of what you actually said just the gist of it
[2024-05-17 19:50:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I didn't even have an idea of what you actually said just the gist of it
[2024-05-17 20:04:49] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Tell him it only runs on DOS lol
[2024-05-17 20:04:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Tell him it only runs on DOS lol
[2024-05-17 20:05:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| And Commodore 64 lol
[2024-05-17 20:05:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| And Commodore 64 lol
[2024-05-17 21:39:52] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @wwnelg when you get a chance can you disable the bot on lava bar when no active players?
[2024-05-17 21:39:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| @wwnelg when you get a chance can you disable the bot on lava bar when no active players?
[2024-05-17 21:40:58] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| o you dont like it? rip
[2024-05-17 21:40:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| o you dont like it? rip
[2024-05-17 21:41:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I keep the window open in background and the movement is what lets me know someone joined lol
[2024-05-17 21:41:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I keep the window open in background and the movement is what lets me know someone joined lol
[2024-05-17 21:41:42] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| ahh
[2024-05-17 21:41:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| ahh
[2024-05-17 21:41:44] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| makes sense
[2024-05-17 21:41:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| makes sense
[2024-05-17 21:42:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ty
[2024-05-17 21:42:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ty
[2024-05-17 21:45:29] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| greetings
[2024-05-17 21:45:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| greetings
[2024-05-17 21:45:53] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| i’m new here
[2024-05-17 21:45:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| i’m new here
[2024-05-17 21:45:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| welcome!
[2024-05-17 21:45:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| welcome!
[2024-05-17 21:47:21] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @qutopyo welcome if you ever want somebody to practice with let me know
[2024-05-17 21:47:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| @qutopyo welcome if you ever want somebody to practice with let me know
[2024-05-17 21:47:34] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| oh- cool beans!!
[2024-05-17 21:47:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| oh- cool beans!!
[2024-05-17 21:47:43] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| i literally just downloaded the game shdjshdhs
[2024-05-17 21:47:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| i literally just downloaded the game shdjshdhs
[2024-05-17 21:47:56] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| i came to ask about keybindings specifically
[2024-05-17 21:47:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| i came to ask about keybindings specifically
[2024-05-17 21:48:45] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| what’s the most… common?
[2024-05-17 21:48:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| what’s the most… common?
[2024-05-17 21:49:09] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You want two left keys and two right keys
[2024-05-17 21:49:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| You want two left keys and two right keys
[2024-05-17 21:49:19] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I would say it's pretty common to use the home row keys on your keyboard
[2024-05-17 21:49:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I would say it's pretty common to use the home row keys on your keyboard
[2024-05-17 21:49:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now you should decide if you prefer using two left turns for your left hand and two for your right or one for each hand
[2024-05-17 21:49:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now you should decide if you prefer using two left turns for your left hand and two for your right or one for each hand
[2024-05-17 21:50:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Of course there's no solid best keybinds. Gotta find what you like
[2024-05-17 21:50:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Of course there's no solid best keybinds. Gotta find what you like
[2024-05-17 21:51:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh and you can use three or four keys per turn but  I think it's easier to learn with just two to start with and experiment with more later
[2024-05-17 21:51:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh and you can use three or four keys per turn but  I think it's easier to learn with just two to start with and experiment with more later
[2024-05-17 21:51:10] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @qutopyo
[2024-05-17 21:51:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| @qutopyo
[2024-05-17 21:51:30] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| ohhhh okay okay
[2024-05-17 21:51:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| ohhhh okay okay
[2024-05-17 21:51:33] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| that makes sense
[2024-05-17 21:51:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| that makes sense
[2024-05-17 21:51:51] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| and then do you just delegate keys around it for camera stuff?
[2024-05-17 21:51:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| and then do you just delegate keys around it for camera stuff?
[2024-05-17 21:52:00] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yep exactly
[2024-05-17 21:52:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yep exactly
[2024-05-17 21:52:08] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You really just need glance keys
[2024-05-17 21:52:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| You really just need glance keys
[2024-05-17 21:52:34] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| okay i’m learning
[2024-05-17 21:52:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| okay i’m learning
[2024-05-17 21:53:10] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| Retrocycles.net has very useful basics
[2024-05-17 21:53:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| Retrocycles.net has very useful basics
[2024-05-17 21:55:27] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| okay i’ll check it out
[2024-05-17 21:55:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| okay i’ll check it out
[2024-05-17 21:55:30] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| tysm!!
[2024-05-17 21:55:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| tysm!!
[2024-05-17 22:06:09] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Manic| this game is dope. i use to play way back in the day and im glad to see theres still a community around it
[2024-05-17 22:06:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 12discord:Manic| this game is dope. i use to play way back in the day and im glad to see theres still a community around it
[2024-05-17 22:07:14] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| i’m excited, i have a hard time getting into games bc the communities are always so overwhelming
[2024-05-17 22:07:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| i’m excited, i have a hard time getting into games bc the communities are always so overwhelming
[2024-05-17 22:07:29] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| and the games take so long to simply learn enough to be able to play
[2024-05-17 22:07:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| and the games take so long to simply learn enough to be able to play
[2024-05-17 22:07:39] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| but this is literally just… tron
[2024-05-17 22:07:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| but this is literally just… tron
[2024-05-17 22:35:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| the only things that take some time to learn here are team modes like fortress which is 6v6 and has some optimal setups that everyone is expected to do (once you learn of course)
[2024-05-17 22:35:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| the only things that take some time to learn here are team modes like fortress which is 6v6 and has some optimal setups that everyone is expected to do (once you learn of course)
[2024-05-17 22:35:58] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| Bro how to I create a account
[2024-05-17 22:35:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| Bro how to I create a account
[2024-05-17 22:36:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| It keeps telling me to log in
[2024-05-17 22:36:04] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| It keeps telling me to log in
[2024-05-17 22:36:20] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| https://lightron.org/ is one easy way
[2024-05-17 22:36:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| https://lightron.org/ is one easy way
[2024-05-17 22:36:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| there are a few different sites that if you make an account on, you can use it in game like /login Ant@lt (if you use lightron)
[2024-05-17 22:36:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| there are a few different sites that if you make an account on, you can use it in game like /login Ant@lt (if you use lightron)
[2024-05-17 22:37:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| or if you use a forums account https://forums3.armagetronad.net/ it's Ant@forums
[2024-05-17 22:37:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| or if you use a forums account https://forums3.armagetronad.net/ it's Ant@forums
[2024-05-17 22:37:44] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| hey, question, how exactly does rubber work? it feels like its incredibly variable. i could have full rubber stored and only get like- a millisecond and other times i get almost half a second, am i just dumb?
[2024-05-17 22:37:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| hey, question, how exactly does rubber work? it feels like its incredibly variable. i could have full rubber stored and only get like- a millisecond and other times i get almost half a second, am i just dumb?
[2024-05-17 22:38:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| depends on the server, you should see the max rubber number at the bottom on your HUD
[2024-05-17 22:38:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| depends on the server, you should see the max rubber number at the bottom on your HUD
[2024-05-17 22:38:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| so if the server is set to 5 max, you die much faster than somewhere with 15 max
[2024-05-17 22:38:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| so if the server is set to 5 max, you die much faster than somewhere with 15 max
[2024-05-17 22:38:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| also depends on how fast you are going, faster = more rubber used
[2024-05-17 22:38:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| also depends on how fast you are going, faster = more rubber used
[2024-05-17 22:39:35] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| Is there a mod where you can use was
[2024-05-17 22:39:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| Is there a mod where you can use was
[2024-05-17 22:39:59] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| just go to the player setup menu > player 1 settings > input configuration
[2024-05-17 22:39:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| just go to the player setup menu > player 1 settings > input configuration
[2024-05-17 22:40:05] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| you can change your keybinds from there
[2024-05-17 22:40:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| you can change your keybinds from there
[2024-05-17 22:40:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the beauty of this game is you can basically config it however you like
[2024-05-17 22:40:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| the beauty of this game is you can basically config it however you like
[2024-05-17 22:40:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| change the way it looks, the way it plays, the controls, and more
[2024-05-17 22:40:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| change the way it looks, the way it plays, the controls, and more
[2024-05-17 22:42:28] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| Ty
[2024-05-17 22:42:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| Ty
[2024-05-17 22:42:40] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| But when I but my login it says it doesn’t exist
[2024-05-17 22:42:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| But when I but my login it says it doesn’t exist
[2024-05-17 22:42:49] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| I put ant312@lt
[2024-05-17 22:42:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| I put ant312@lt
[2024-05-17 22:43:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| did you sign up at https://lightron.org/?
[2024-05-17 22:43:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| did you sign up at https://lightron.org/?
[2024-05-17 22:43:10] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| Yeah
[2024-05-17 22:43:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| Yeah
[2024-05-17 22:43:26] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| maybe confirmation email?
[2024-05-17 22:43:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| maybe confirmation email?
[2024-05-17 22:44:01] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| nah not on lightron
[2024-05-17 22:44:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| nah not on lightron
[2024-05-17 22:44:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| oh hmm
[2024-05-17 22:44:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| oh hmm
[2024-05-17 22:44:16] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i guess double check you didnt mistype something
[2024-05-17 22:44:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| i guess double check you didnt mistype something
[2024-05-17 22:46:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| it's also case and space sensitive
[2024-05-17 22:46:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| it's also case and space sensitive
[2024-05-17 22:48:20] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241220802712567838/IMG_3445.png?ex=66496874&is=664816f4&hm=06ba196d6793b4acfcf98139f608f9a2a6c75d66c184e7349ef7358a0f79e9a4&
[2024-05-17 22:48:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241220802712567838/IMG_3445.png?ex=66496874&is=664816f4&hm=06ba196d6793b4acfcf98139f608f9a2a6c75d66c184e7349ef7358a0f79e9a4&
[2024-05-17 22:48:25] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| It’s this one right
[2024-05-17 22:48:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| It’s this one right
[2024-05-17 22:49:48] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| whatever you put in the username field here
[2024-05-17 22:49:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| whatever you put in the username field here
[2024-05-17 22:49:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241221170691575839/image.png?ex=664968cb&is=6648174b&hm=d22d7f64afac05ce7ee4ca5e95164d38478fe07957064b2d646bcff8cdf7082f&
[2024-05-17 22:49:49] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241221170691575839/image.png?ex=664968cb&is=6648174b&hm=d22d7f64afac05ce7ee4ca5e95164d38478fe07957064b2d646bcff8cdf7082f&
[2024-05-17 22:49:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| not sure which field says Name 🤔
[2024-05-17 22:49:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| not sure which field says Name 🤔
[2024-05-17 22:50:05] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| Yeah I put the same one
[2024-05-17 22:50:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| Yeah I put the same one
[2024-05-17 22:50:08] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| right, when you're in game type `/login ant312@lt`
[2024-05-17 22:50:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| right, when you're in game type `/login ant312@lt`
[2024-05-17 22:50:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| Oh I was at authentication
[2024-05-17 22:50:24] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| Oh I was at authentication
[2024-05-17 22:51:24] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| I did it
[2024-05-17 22:51:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| I did it
[2024-05-17 22:51:46] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| I was putting @lt on the end in authentication
[2024-05-17 22:51:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| I was putting @lt on the end in authentication
[2024-05-17 22:51:47] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| if you want to be able to use that menu item, there is a "Global Id" setting near the bottom of the player setup > player 1 settings menu
[2024-05-17 22:51:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| if you want to be able to use that menu item, there is a "Global Id" setting near the bottom of the player setup > player 1 settings menu
[2024-05-17 22:51:51] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| that you can set to ant312@lt
[2024-05-17 22:51:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| that you can set to ant312@lt
[2024-05-17 22:52:04] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| and you could even set up autologin with that if you wanted
[2024-05-17 22:52:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| and you could even set up autologin with that if you wanted
[2024-05-17 22:53:11] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ant.312_| Ty
[2024-05-17 22:53:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ant.312_| Ty
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[2024-05-17 23:08:49] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| You only get as good as the people you play with, so find people who play well and play with them

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[2024-05-18 05:12:39] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:chiklette1995| Hello chat !
[2024-05-18 05:12:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:chiklette1995| Hello chat !
[2024-05-18 05:13:57] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hello deleted user
[2024-05-18 05:13:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hello deleted user
[2024-05-18 06:24:39] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:chiklette1995| Hello nevia pot
[2024-05-18 06:24:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:chiklette1995| Hello nevia pot
[2024-05-18 06:25:46] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You gonna be playing today?
[2024-05-18 06:25:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| You gonna be playing today?
[2024-05-18 06:26:11] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:chiklette1995| No, i'll play tomorrow
[2024-05-18 06:26:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:chiklette1995| No, i'll play tomorrow
[2024-05-18 06:28:28] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Alright, I'll see ya on the grid
[2024-05-18 06:28:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Alright, I'll see ya on the grid
[2024-05-18 07:56:49] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:therealkombo| Hey guys. Saw this game on tiktok and thought it would be pretty cool to play it with my friends. Can anyone explain how we can join eachothers server? It's pretty confusing 😂 .
[2024-05-18 07:56:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:therealkombo| Hey guys. Saw this game on tiktok and thought it would be pretty cool to play it with my friends. Can anyone explain how we can join eachothers server? It's pretty confusing 😂 .
[2024-05-18 07:57:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| For sure!
[2024-05-18 07:57:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| For sure!
[2024-05-18 07:58:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| There are public servers that you can join with your friends right now.
[2024-05-18 07:58:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| There are public servers that you can join with your friends right now.
[2024-05-18 07:58:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Play Game -> Multiplayer -> Online Multiplayer -> Pick a server
[2024-05-18 07:58:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Play Game -> Multiplayer -> Online Multiplayer -> Pick a server
[2024-05-18 07:59:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| If you want to host a custom private server, it's a little more indepth. It helps if one of you have experience with server hosting more generally. It requires you to host a server via the client or the dedicated server program and then open the port on your network
[2024-05-18 07:59:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| If you want to host a custom private server, it's a little more indepth. It helps if one of you have experience with server hosting more generally. It requires you to host a server via the client or the dedicated server program and then open the port on your network
[2024-05-18 07:59:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| If you're all on the same network you can use LAN multiplayer but again for new players that don't have a tech background I'd just recommend picking an existing server from the multiplayer menu
[2024-05-18 07:59:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| If you're all on the same network you can use LAN multiplayer but again for new players that don't have a tech background I'd just recommend picking an existing server from the multiplayer menu
[2024-05-18 07:59:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| But if you have specific questions just drop them here 🙂
[2024-05-18 07:59:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| But if you have specific questions just drop them here 🙂
[2024-05-18 08:01:39] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:therealkombo| Thanks for the answer! We tried joining the community server "The Grid" and got this on our screens. Mind telling where we get out logins?
[2024-05-18 08:01:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:therealkombo| Thanks for the answer! We tried joining the community server "The Grid" and got this on our screens. Mind telling where we get out logins?
[2024-05-18 08:01:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:therealkombo| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241360047796129792/image.png?ex=6649ea22&is=664898a2&hm=cc9b1203211083b791392db435a360005ee5c00629a7bfb020371e3ec571001c&
[2024-05-18 08:01:40] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:therealkombo| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241360047796129792/image.png?ex=6649ea22&is=664898a2&hm=cc9b1203211083b791392db435a360005ee5c00629a7bfb020371e3ec571001c&
[2024-05-18 08:02:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Yeah those servers are "pickup" servers. Basically organised games that happen in #pickup
[2024-05-18 08:02:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Yeah those servers are "pickup" servers. Basically organised games that happen in #pickup
[2024-05-18 08:02:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Pick basically any other server except those ones and you can just play without the need for a login
[2024-05-18 08:02:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Pick basically any other server except those ones and you can just play without the need for a login
[2024-05-18 08:02:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| It's a confusing system ik
[2024-05-18 08:02:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| It's a confusing system ik
[2024-05-18 08:02:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| We're working on ways to make it more accessibile
[2024-05-18 08:02:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| We're working on ways to make it more accessibile
[2024-05-18 08:10:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You can use https://lightron.org/ or https://forums3.armagetronad.net/
[2024-05-18 08:10:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| You can use https://lightron.org/ or https://forums3.armagetronad.net/
[2024-05-18 08:10:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Make an account on one or the other, and then use `/login <username>@<authority>` with `<authority>` being either `lt` for lightron, or `forums` for the forums. 
[2024-05-18 08:10:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Make an account on one or the other, and then use `/login <username>@<authority>` with `<authority>` being either `lt` for lightron, or `forums` for the forums. 
[2024-05-18 08:10:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Note: Best practise when making a new authority is to log out of the account in your browser, then log in again with your browser. This is required for the forums and your login won't work until you do, not sure about lightron.
[2024-05-18 08:10:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Note: Best practise when making a new authority is to log out of the account in your browser, then log in again with your browser. This is required for the forums and your login won't work until you do, not sure about lightron.
[2024-05-18 08:11:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| would be amazing to have a link to authorities in the client itself
[2024-05-18 08:11:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| would be amazing to have a link to authorities in the client itself
[2024-05-18 08:11:54] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You can always put the URLs in message of the day for the servers
[2024-05-18 08:11:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| You can always put the URLs in message of the day for the servers
[2024-05-18 08:12:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| thats true
[2024-05-18 08:12:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| thats true
[2024-05-18 08:13:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| getting that working on linux would be a pain though, there's a bit transition at the moment so xdg-open isn't as reliable as it once was. 
[2024-05-18 08:13:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| getting that working on linux would be a pain though, there's a bit transition at the moment so xdg-open isn't as reliable as it once was. 
[2024-05-18 08:13:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| That said, I think it best to point people here for the time being. The login/logout thing needs explanation, for one, and it also demonstrates to the newcomer that we're a community that is legitimately willing to help, which is kinda useful for tron
[2024-05-18 08:13:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That said, I think it best to point people here for the time being. The login/logout thing needs explanation, for one, and it also demonstrates to the newcomer that we're a community that is legitimately willing to help, which is kinda useful for tron
[2024-05-18 08:13:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Also Windows seems to change mime types as often as I change my socks
[2024-05-18 08:13:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Also Windows seems to change mime types as often as I change my socks
[2024-05-18 08:16:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| And to be fair they're going to have to be here in the discord to actually play pick up matches so theres not going to be much point in making it more accessible from the client if they are already here
[2024-05-18 08:16:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| And to be fair they're going to have to be here in the discord to actually play pick up matches so theres not going to be much point in making it more accessible from the client if they are already here
[2024-05-18 08:16:21] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| The login isn't required for anything else that I know of
[2024-05-18 08:16:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| The login isn't required for anything else that I know of
[2024-05-18 08:18:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i would love some insight as to the operating system share of arma installs
[2024-05-18 08:18:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i would love some insight as to the operating system share of arma installs
[2024-05-18 08:18:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i would wager that linux represents <5% of all installs in the past 5 years
[2024-05-18 08:18:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i would wager that linux represents <5% of all installs in the past 5 years
[2024-05-18 08:19:09] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I'm Linux!
[2024-05-18 08:19:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I'm Linux!
[2024-05-18 08:19:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| why?
[2024-05-18 08:19:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| why?
[2024-05-18 08:19:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| out of curiousity
[2024-05-18 08:19:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| out of curiousity
[2024-05-18 08:20:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well I actually have both now but once upon a time I decided I wanted to figure out Linux for fun and then when they switched windows to the new version I didn't like it so I just kept using Linux. A decade later I get my new gaming PC and have to learn how to use Windows all over again
[2024-05-18 08:20:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well I actually have both now but once upon a time I decided I wanted to figure out Linux for fun and then when they switched windows to the new version I didn't like it so I just kept using Linux. A decade later I get my new gaming PC and have to learn how to use Windows all over again
[2024-05-18 08:20:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm linux too! As is sine, monkey, stereo, nelg, and a good few others
[2024-05-18 08:20:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I'm linux too! As is sine, monkey, stereo, nelg, and a good few others
[2024-05-18 08:20:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| One of the reasons I play Tron on Linux specifically is because sometimes I host my own server with the snake game and if I understand correctly you can't run that in Windows
[2024-05-18 08:20:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| One of the reasons I play Tron on Linux specifically is because sometimes I host my own server with the snake game and if I understand correctly you can't run that in Windows
[2024-05-18 08:21:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You can, but it's a bit more fiuddle
[2024-05-18 08:21:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| You can, but it's a bit more fiuddle
[2024-05-18 08:21:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yeah see that's the one thing about Linux for me now is I know how to use it pretty well and like I said I haven't really used Windows much in the last decade
[2024-05-18 08:21:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yeah see that's the one thing about Linux for me now is I know how to use it pretty well and like I said I haven't really used Windows much in the last decade
[2024-05-18 08:23:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| using linux as anything other than a dedicated server in 2024 seems... awkward
[2024-05-18 08:23:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| using linux as anything other than a dedicated server in 2024 seems... awkward
[2024-05-18 08:23:38] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Ya, I stopped dual-booting a little while ago after I got Monodevelop working. I hated Win8, and Win10 felt like oversimplified Duplo. I quite literally felt patronised by some of it. Stuck with 7 for the dualboot for a couple years but tbh I only ever booted it for Visual Studio
[2024-05-18 08:23:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Ya, I stopped dual-booting a little while ago after I got Monodevelop working. I hated Win8, and Win10 felt like oversimplified Duplo. I quite literally felt patronised by some of it. Stuck with 7 for the dualboot for a couple years but tbh I only ever booted it for Visual Studio
[2024-05-18 08:24:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Actually no syn it isn't, Plasma is quite pleasant to use, even if it is a bit unstable.
[2024-05-18 08:24:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Actually no syn it isn't, Plasma is quite pleasant to use, even if it is a bit unstable.
[2024-05-18 08:24:24] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Really the only reason I even have Windows now is because it has access to all the computer games otherwise I found that Linux works fine for everything else
[2024-05-18 08:24:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Really the only reason I even have Windows now is because it has access to all the computer games otherwise I found that Linux works fine for everything else
[2024-05-18 08:24:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| xfce is still as lightweight and chill as it always was, except for the lack of window rules buil tin
[2024-05-18 08:24:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| xfce is still as lightweight and chill as it always was, except for the lack of window rules buil tin
[2024-05-18 08:25:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| meh. All my games run on Linux with minimal config. Even Elite:Dangerous
[2024-05-18 08:25:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| meh. All my games run on Linux with minimal config. Even Elite:Dangerous
[2024-05-18 08:25:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Man, I got cities running without proton at all, just ran wine cities.exe and it worked
[2024-05-18 08:25:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Man, I got cities running without proton at all, just ran wine cities.exe and it worked
[2024-05-18 08:25:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| War Thunder has a native linux client
[2024-05-18 08:25:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| War Thunder has a native linux client
[2024-05-18 08:25:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-202402-202402-bar
[2024-05-18 08:25:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-202402-202402-bar
[2024-05-18 08:26:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I just feel like it's not worth saying no to features because it impacts ~4%
[2024-05-18 08:26:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I just feel like it's not worth saying no to features because it impacts ~4%
[2024-05-18 08:26:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| especially when those 4% are likely technical enough to not need the help being provided
[2024-05-18 08:26:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| especially when those 4% are likely technical enough to not need the help being provided
[2024-05-18 08:26:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well before now I didn't really have a computer that can do any real gaming but I felt like it was going to be a benefit to have Windows on a gaming computer make things a bit simpler, having both can't be wrong anyways lol
[2024-05-18 08:26:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well before now I didn't really have a computer that can do any real gaming but I felt like it was going to be a benefit to have Windows on a gaming computer make things a bit simpler, having both can't be wrong anyways lol
[2024-05-18 08:26:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| are you an engineer kevin? or techy
[2024-05-18 08:26:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| are you an engineer kevin? or techy
[2024-05-18 08:26:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I mean, it's not just linux. As I said, Windows keeps changing mimetypes and file associations off its own back these days, and there's the bringing-people-to-the-community point too
[2024-05-18 08:26:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I mean, it's not just linux. As I said, Windows keeps changing mimetypes and file associations off its own back these days, and there's the bringing-people-to-the-community point too
[2024-05-18 08:28:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| A home taught computer nerd I guess I don't have professional education or experience or anything like that LOL. Have dabbled in programming and game dev
[2024-05-18 08:28:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| A home taught computer nerd I guess I don't have professional education or experience or anything like that LOL. Have dabbled in programming and game dev
[2024-05-18 08:32:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it was an awesome side effect of me getting into tron so young that i basically had to learn about linux etc at like 10 years old
[2024-05-18 08:32:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| it was an awesome side effect of me getting into tron so young that i basically had to learn about linux etc at like 10 years old
[2024-05-18 08:32:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but i fear/know that the technical understanding we require of new players is a massive acid test
[2024-05-18 08:32:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| but i fear/know that the technical understanding we require of new players is a massive acid test
[2024-05-18 08:33:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| they either pass and gain a whole bunch of new skills or fail and dont get any of the awesomeness we have to offer
[2024-05-18 08:33:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| they either pass and gain a whole bunch of new skills or fail and dont get any of the awesomeness we have to offer
[2024-05-18 08:33:31] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Why did tron make you learn Linux?
[2024-05-18 08:33:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Why did tron make you learn Linux?
[2024-05-18 08:33:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| cause everyone here talks about it all the time
[2024-05-18 08:33:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| cause everyone here talks about it all the time
[2024-05-18 08:33:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| even now in 2024 🤣
[2024-05-18 08:33:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| even now in 2024 🤣
[2024-05-18 08:34:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ah ok haha
[2024-05-18 08:34:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ah ok haha
[2024-05-18 08:34:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Linux is a bit more mouldable, which is probably a huge part of what we like about it
[2024-05-18 08:34:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Linux is a bit more mouldable, which is probably a huge part of what we like about it
[2024-05-18 08:34:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think a lot of Linux users found this game because it was one of the more accessible games for Linux especially earlier on
[2024-05-18 08:34:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think a lot of Linux users found this game because it was one of the more accessible games for Linux especially earlier on
[2024-05-18 08:34:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| for sure
[2024-05-18 08:34:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| for sure
[2024-05-18 08:34:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I found it because it was in the ubuntu software centre
[2024-05-18 08:34:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I found it because it was in the ubuntu software centre
[2024-05-18 08:35:01] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| can confirm, this game was part of "oh cool linux has games"
[2024-05-18 08:35:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| can confirm, this game was part of "oh cool linux has games"
[2024-05-18 08:35:08] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yep I was going to say it's even on their software store thing LOL
[2024-05-18 08:35:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yep I was going to say it's even on their software store thing LOL
[2024-05-18 08:35:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but now with tiktok being the main avenue of new players i think our messaging needs to reflect that more typical userbase
[2024-05-18 08:35:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| but now with tiktok being the main avenue of new players i think our messaging needs to reflect that more typical userbase
[2024-05-18 08:35:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| where its 75% windows 20% mac 5% linux
[2024-05-18 08:35:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| where its 75% windows 20% mac 5% linux
[2024-05-18 08:35:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Meh. I reckon catering to people too much is part of the problem
[2024-05-18 08:35:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Meh. I reckon catering to people too much is part of the problem
[2024-05-18 08:36:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| give basic instructions, let them figure hte rest out
[2024-05-18 08:36:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| give basic instructions, let them figure hte rest out
[2024-05-18 08:36:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it's a personal philosophy. i can understand the desire to keep this community niche and "intimate"
[2024-05-18 08:36:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| it's a personal philosophy. i can understand the desire to keep this community niche and "intimate"
[2024-05-18 08:36:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Nah, it's not about that
[2024-05-18 08:36:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Nah, it's not about that
[2024-05-18 08:37:31] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Id have to say I think the more we cater then the more people we bring in. Yes those include the people who can't figure out how to use a microwave on their own but it is still valid
[2024-05-18 08:37:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Id have to say I think the more we cater then the more people we bring in. Yes those include the people who can't figure out how to use a microwave on their own but it is still valid
[2024-05-18 08:38:03] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Games these days are click "join game" and your in
[2024-05-18 08:38:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Games these days are click "join game" and your in
[2024-05-18 08:38:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's a philosophy greater than just tron. We oversimplify computers rather than encouraging people to learn. I'd muc prefer to point someone at https://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php/Console_Commands and say "have at it", then given them pointers when they get stuck. Otherwise we'll be constantly in a position of playing teacher, which nobody has the energy for
[2024-05-18 08:38:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| It's a philosophy greater than just tron. We oversimplify computers rather than encouraging people to learn. I'd muc prefer to point someone at https://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php/Console_Commands and say "have at it", then given them pointers when they get stuck. Otherwise we'll be constantly in a position of playing teacher, which nobody has the energy for
[2024-05-18 08:38:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Personally it drives me nuts when there's no server list and only quit joining a game though
[2024-05-18 08:38:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Personally it drives me nuts when there's no server list and only quit joining a game though
[2024-05-18 08:39:27] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That is one reason I was thinking about doing YouTube tutorial content for this game
[2024-05-18 08:39:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| That is one reason I was thinking about doing YouTube tutorial content for this game
[2024-05-18 08:39:51] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Because then I can explain everything once and if anybody else can buy I can tell him to go to the YouTube channel but somebody already beat me to that and I don't like the idea of rehashing stuff that's already been covered
[2024-05-18 08:39:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Because then I can explain everything once and if anybody else can buy I can tell him to go to the YouTube channel but somebody already beat me to that and I don't like the idea of rehashing stuff that's already been covered
[2024-05-18 08:40:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I mean, think about it. Olive isn't a computer guy, much less a linux nerd, yet he got into tron as a kid and got hooked. Fostering that sort of philosophy has been proven to work
[2024-05-18 08:40:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I mean, think about it. Olive isn't a computer guy, much less a linux nerd, yet he got into tron as a kid and got hooked. Fostering that sort of philosophy has been proven to work
[2024-05-18 08:40:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Unfortunately though I don't think we're trying to improve the human race as much as we would like to we're just trying to get people to play a damn game here LOL
[2024-05-18 08:40:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Unfortunately though I don't think we're trying to improve the human race as much as we would like to we're just trying to get people to play a damn game here LOL
[2024-05-18 08:41:01] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| one thing i can say for myself is that i personally have no idea what people who find this from tiktok do expect or like, if you got some good pointers for those go ahead
[2024-05-18 08:41:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| one thing i can say for myself is that i personally have no idea what people who find this from tiktok do expect or like, if you got some good pointers for those go ahead
[2024-05-18 08:41:28] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| No, you misunderstand, its not about improving the human race per se, it's about creating a community that can manage if the old timers leave
[2024-05-18 08:41:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| No, you misunderstand, its not about improving the human race per se, it's about creating a community that can manage if the old timers leave
[2024-05-18 08:41:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| That's why i'm focusing on building tools. I don't plan to parrot the same information through typing alone forever
[2024-05-18 08:41:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| That's why i'm focusing on building tools. I don't plan to parrot the same information through typing alone forever
[2024-05-18 08:42:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I'm with kevin though personal philosophies aside I just want people to enjoy this game the way I do and I know it's just not as easy as it was in 2007
[2024-05-18 08:42:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I'm with kevin though personal philosophies aside I just want people to enjoy this game the way I do and I know it's just not as easy as it was in 2007
[2024-05-18 08:42:44] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well I do think that that's a good one plan I think that the people that are going to manage the community are the people they're going to pursue the knowledge on their own anyways even if we make the game more "accessible"
[2024-05-18 08:42:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well I do think that that's a good one plan I think that the people that are going to manage the community are the people they're going to pursue the knowledge on their own anyways even if we make the game more "accessible"
[2024-05-18 08:43:01] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| i do like the look of that fancy site you have, does something like it work well for pointing people to? 😄
[2024-05-18 08:43:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| i do like the look of that fancy site you have, does something like it work well for pointing people to? 😄
[2024-05-18 08:43:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| These kids these days can't appreciate the gem that this game is lol
[2024-05-18 08:43:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| These kids these days can't appreciate the gem that this game is lol
[2024-05-18 08:43:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lets imagine myself, Deso, Syn, Vov, Sine, and all the other long timers leave. The newer players have nobody to fall back on, so they're now required to explore solutions to problems for themselves. If they're not used to doing so, they're not going to keep playing. If they're already familiar with trial-and-error and learning how to make shit work, they miught just stick around
[2024-05-18 08:43:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Lets imagine myself, Deso, Syn, Vov, Sine, and all the other long timers leave. The newer players have nobody to fall back on, so they're now required to explore solutions to problems for themselves. If they're not used to doing so, they're not going to keep playing. If they're already familiar with trial-and-error and learning how to make shit work, they miught just stick around
[2024-05-18 08:43:55] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I've been trying to picture in my mind how this game boomed in the first place
[2024-05-18 08:43:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I've been trying to picture in my mind how this game boomed in the first place
[2024-05-18 08:44:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Since it's not finished yet I haven't been point people to it, but already simple shortcuts like https://syntron.uk/discord are helpful
[2024-05-18 08:44:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Since it's not finished yet I haven't been point people to it, but already simple shortcuts like https://syntron.uk/discord are helpful
[2024-05-18 08:44:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's why I'm suggesting a philosophy based around pointers, rather than whole solutions, when answering questions
[2024-05-18 08:44:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| That's why I'm suggesting a philosophy based around pointers, rather than whole solutions, when answering questions
[2024-05-18 08:44:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I'm fully with you deli. Pointers are the way forward
[2024-05-18 08:44:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I'm fully with you deli. Pointers are the way forward
[2024-05-18 08:44:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| But the initial vector that takes you to the pointer imo needs to be as broad and abstract and generic as possible. Assuming this person doesn't even speak english nevermind bash
[2024-05-18 08:44:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| But the initial vector that takes you to the pointer imo needs to be as broad and abstract and generic as possible. Assuming this person doesn't even speak english nevermind bash
[2024-05-18 08:44:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I really do like that shortlink syn. I'm going to put it on the retrocycles page if you don't mind, since that's the "official" page for steam
[2024-05-18 08:44:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I really do like that shortlink syn. I'm going to put it on the retrocycles page if you don't mind, since that's the "official" page for steam
[2024-05-18 08:45:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You know there isn't a yt video on how to set up custom camera and all the options that are involved in there?
[2024-05-18 08:45:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| You know there isn't a yt video on how to set up custom camera and all the options that are involved in there?
[2024-05-18 08:45:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hmmm. We should hav a wiki page for that
[2024-05-18 08:45:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Hmmm. We should hav a wiki page for that
[2024-05-18 08:45:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| The wiki is a whole topic on its own
[2024-05-18 08:45:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| The wiki is a whole topic on its own
[2024-05-18 08:46:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The wiki needs major rework
[2024-05-18 08:46:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| The wiki needs major rework
[2024-05-18 08:46:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Half the pages are full of info and links that either 404 are just irrelevant
[2024-05-18 08:46:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Half the pages are full of info and links that either 404 are just irrelevant
[2024-05-18 08:46:12] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| 😗 like to learn from YouTube that's why I'm kind of leaning in that direction
[2024-05-18 08:46:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| 😗 like to learn from YouTube that's why I'm kind of leaning in that direction
[2024-05-18 08:46:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| we've been slowly doing it, but yeah it's very outdated
[2024-05-18 08:46:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| we've been slowly doing it, but yeah it's very outdated
[2024-05-18 08:46:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Also agree with kevin in that modern information intake is video/audio based
[2024-05-18 08:46:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Also agree with kevin in that modern information intake is video/audio based
[2024-05-18 08:46:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| The kids dont read
[2024-05-18 08:46:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| The kids dont read
[2024-05-18 08:46:34] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Kids not kiss emoji lol
[2024-05-18 08:46:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Kids not kiss emoji lol
[2024-05-18 08:46:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hmm. Problem with a video is that it can't be updated easily, it has to be entirely remade if something changes
[2024-05-18 08:47:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Hmm. Problem with a video is that it can't be updated easily, it has to be entirely remade if something changes
[2024-05-18 08:47:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Maybe a selection of smaller videos
[2024-05-18 08:47:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Maybe a selection of smaller videos
[2024-05-18 08:47:14] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| I think you have a very simplistic view of young people and would be surprised how many read content about games. Some of the biggest games on earth have vibrant wiki cultures
[2024-05-18 08:47:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| I think you have a very simplistic view of young people and would be surprised how many read content about games. Some of the biggest games on earth have vibrant wiki cultures
[2024-05-18 08:47:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| or even just gifs
[2024-05-18 08:47:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| or even just gifs
[2024-05-18 08:47:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| The beauty of that is that stuff round here doesnt change that fast
[2024-05-18 08:47:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| The beauty of that is that stuff round here doesnt change that fast
[2024-05-18 08:47:26] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yeah but that's also a good thing because the more videos you put out the better for your YouTube channel
[2024-05-18 08:47:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yeah but that's also a good thing because the more videos you put out the better for your YouTube channel
[2024-05-18 08:47:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya cadi's right, there's wikis everywhere
[2024-05-18 08:47:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ya cadi's right, there's wikis everywhere
[2024-05-18 08:47:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Agree cadi but those enthusiastic gamers dont come out of nowhere
[2024-05-18 08:47:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Agree cadi but those enthusiastic gamers dont come out of nowhere
[2024-05-18 08:47:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| there needs to be an initial 'hook' that makes them want to find out more
[2024-05-18 08:47:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| there needs to be an initial 'hook' that makes them want to find out more
[2024-05-18 08:47:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you dont read a book with a blank cover
[2024-05-18 08:47:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| you dont read a book with a blank cover
[2024-05-18 08:48:17] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think it's both but we're trying to make this game go viral not cater to techie games savvykids alone am I right?
[2024-05-18 08:48:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think it's both but we're trying to make this game go viral not cater to techie games savvykids alone am I right?
[2024-05-18 08:48:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Actually y'know I think gifs are the way forward. They're easier to pop in, and they're shorter by nature. Same kinda intention as a YT vid, but they can be stuck on the wiki
[2024-05-18 08:48:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Actually y'know I think gifs are the way forward. They're easier to pop in, and they're shorter by nature. Same kinda intention as a YT vid, but they can be stuck on the wiki
[2024-05-18 08:48:41] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| That hook can be simply wanting to figure out how to change their camera, as long as we get the content we need on there and the organization working, people will search it
[2024-05-18 08:48:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| That hook can be simply wanting to figure out how to change their camera, as long as we get the content we need on there and the organization working, people will search it
[2024-05-18 08:48:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| koala is already doing gods work with his clips providing a hook but i fear the curve is too steep from cute tiktok clips to dense wiki articles
[2024-05-18 08:48:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| koala is already doing gods work with his clips providing a hook but i fear the curve is too steep from cute tiktok clips to dense wiki articles
[2024-05-18 08:48:48] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| Think about the Minecraft wiki
[2024-05-18 08:48:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| Think about the Minecraft wiki
[2024-05-18 08:49:06] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| Everyone uses the Minecraft wiki even for basic things because they know the answer will be there
[2024-05-18 08:49:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| Everyone uses the Minecraft wiki even for basic things because they know the answer will be there
[2024-05-18 08:49:09] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Princess if I were to do a video on how to set up a custom camera I wouldn't necely need to cover every single thing just give them a starting point and tell him where to find more info
[2024-05-18 08:49:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Princess if I were to do a video on how to set up a custom camera I wouldn't necely need to cover every single thing just give them a starting point and tell him where to find more info
[2024-05-18 08:49:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Princess? lol
[2024-05-18 08:49:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Princess? lol
[2024-05-18 08:49:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but like just google "minecraft"
[2024-05-18 08:49:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| but like just google "minecraft"
[2024-05-18 08:49:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241372080562245642/image.png?ex=6649f557&is=6648a3d7&hm=6b5c6b96956b3f8251baaca17131b53551065be92d4e0d8ba989edf794b6c784&
[2024-05-18 08:49:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241372080562245642/image.png?ex=6649f557&is=6648a3d7&hm=6b5c6b96956b3f8251baaca17131b53551065be92d4e0d8ba989edf794b6c784&
[2024-05-18 08:49:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I don't know what that was I'm using voice to text LOL
[2024-05-18 08:49:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I don't know what that was I'm using voice to text LOL
[2024-05-18 08:49:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the hooks are so prevalant you even get a little hand on the screen
[2024-05-18 08:49:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| the hooks are so prevalant you even get a little hand on the screen
[2024-05-18 08:49:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| (wild tbh i didnt even know about that just found it)
[2024-05-18 08:49:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| (wild tbh i didnt even know about that just found it)
[2024-05-18 08:49:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| wat
[2024-05-18 08:49:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| wat
[2024-05-18 08:50:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| insane actually its a whole thing
[2024-05-18 08:50:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| insane actually its a whole thing
[2024-05-18 08:50:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ah, it doesn;t work properly on firefox
[2024-05-18 08:50:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ah, it doesn;t work properly on firefox
[2024-05-18 08:50:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| rip
[2024-05-18 08:50:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| rip
[2024-05-18 08:50:57] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hey I'm just putting out the offer if anyone thinks that it'd be any use at all I would definitely go ahead and make some YouTube content for this game
[2024-05-18 08:50:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hey I'm just putting out the offer if anyone thinks that it'd be any use at all I would definitely go ahead and make some YouTube content for this game
[2024-05-18 08:51:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| its not about us kevin
[2024-05-18 08:51:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| its not about us kevin
[2024-05-18 08:51:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we know all there is to know
[2024-05-18 08:51:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| we know all there is to know
[2024-05-18 08:51:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the players that need it arent here to tell you they need it
[2024-05-18 08:51:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| the players that need it arent here to tell you they need it
[2024-05-18 08:51:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| do it
[2024-05-18 08:51:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| do it
[2024-05-18 08:51:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well of course but you know sometimes it's nice to know if anybody else thinks I have a good idea or if everyone thinks that it's dumb lol cuz I'm always second-guessing myself that's just how I do things
[2024-05-18 08:51:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well of course but you know sometimes it's nice to know if anybody else thinks I have a good idea or if everyone thinks that it's dumb lol cuz I'm always second-guessing myself that's just how I do things
[2024-05-18 08:52:17] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Actually I did have a buddy try this game and while he was trying it I recorded the whole thing of me showing him how to set things up I won't use that specifically for the video but I could definitely use it as a reference point
[2024-05-18 08:52:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Actually I did have a buddy try this game and while he was trying it I recorded the whole thing of me showing him how to set things up I won't use that specifically for the video but I could definitely use it as a reference point
[2024-05-18 08:52:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i feel you but speaking personally waiting for this communities approval is somewhat of a fools endeavour
[2024-05-18 08:52:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i feel you but speaking personally waiting for this communities approval is somewhat of a fools endeavour
[2024-05-18 08:52:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| approval comes in the form of nelg dming you telling you the cpu usage of your site is too high
[2024-05-18 08:52:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| approval comes in the form of nelg dming you telling you the cpu usage of your site is too high
[2024-05-18 08:52:46] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol
[2024-05-18 08:52:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol
[2024-05-18 08:52:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i like to think its a sign of approval 🤣
[2024-05-18 08:52:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i like to think its a sign of approval 🤣
[2024-05-18 08:53:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| heh
[2024-05-18 08:53:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| heh
[2024-05-18 08:53:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Mostly, people just make stuff here.
[2024-05-18 08:53:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Mostly, people just make stuff here.
[2024-05-18 08:53:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and then when its good, they get a few kisses from the rest of us
[2024-05-18 08:53:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| and then when its good, they get a few kisses from the rest of us
[2024-05-18 08:53:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| only when there is enough stuff on the table can we theorise about iterating it into something more organised
[2024-05-18 08:53:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| only when there is enough stuff on the table can we theorise about iterating it into something more organised
[2024-05-18 08:53:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol
[2024-05-18 08:53:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol
[2024-05-18 08:53:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| now the table is empty and the kids are hungry
[2024-05-18 08:53:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| now the table is empty and the kids are hungry
[2024-05-18 08:54:54] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's one thing I have always wondered is since everybody use a double bind keys why doesn't the client just start you off with a double bind setup?
[2024-05-18 08:54:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's one thing I have always wondered is since everybody use a double bind keys why doesn't the client just start you off with a double bind setup?
[2024-05-18 08:55:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ya I do think a new default key layour would be helpful
[2024-05-18 08:55:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ya I do think a new default key layour would be helpful
[2024-05-18 08:55:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Because literally the first thing I have to tell anybody who just started playing is that they need to set up double bind keys LOL
[2024-05-18 08:55:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Because literally the first thing I have to tell anybody who just started playing is that they need to set up double bind keys LOL
[2024-05-18 08:57:25] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now another question to add to that is with everyone using different keyboard setups how do we determine what they should start with? For instance is not just key placement but also I'm not sure if most people use left turns on left hand right turns on right hand or both turns on each hand. I use the latter
[2024-05-18 08:57:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now another question to add to that is with everyone using different keyboard setups how do we determine what they should start with? For instance is not just key placement but also I'm not sure if most people use left turns on left hand right turns on right hand or both turns on each hand. I use the latter
[2024-05-18 09:05:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| You know, I think part of the problem is that we have these discussions here, on Discord, where everything is very ethereal and we don't take very long to ingest messages. I think the direction is lost at times. Perhaps we should be more willing to use the forums for this sorta thing
[2024-05-18 09:05:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| You know, I think part of the problem is that we have these discussions here, on Discord, where everything is very ethereal and we don't take very long to ingest messages. I think the direction is lost at times. Perhaps we should be more willing to use the forums for this sorta thing
[2024-05-18 09:05:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| we'd certainly have more clarity of purpose
[2024-05-18 09:05:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| we'd certainly have more clarity of purpose
[2024-05-18 09:05:39] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I kind of have to agree with you there it would keep topics organized
[2024-05-18 09:05:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I kind of have to agree with you there it would keep topics organized
[2024-05-18 09:05:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Actually even better suggestion is discord has a forum feature
[2024-05-18 09:06:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Actually even better suggestion is discord has a forum feature
[2024-05-18 09:06:16] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| We could simply create a forum right here and add topics
[2024-05-18 09:06:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| We could simply create a forum right here and add topics
[2024-05-18 09:06:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The forum feature on discord is a bit hard to use tbh. And we have a ready-made forum already in existence
[2024-05-18 09:06:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| The forum feature on discord is a bit hard to use tbh. And we have a ready-made forum already in existence
[2024-05-18 09:06:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Okay Fair Point
[2024-05-18 09:06:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Okay Fair Point
[2024-05-18 09:06:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| No sense in letting the old website rot
[2024-05-18 09:06:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| No sense in letting the old website rot
[2024-05-18 09:07:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| not in the sense that it's difficult to create a forum, but difficult in the sense that visibility of threads and shit is just... bad
[2024-05-18 09:07:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| not in the sense that it's difficult to create a forum, but difficult in the sense that visibility of threads and shit is just... bad
[2024-05-18 09:07:30] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I tried it on my discord community and it's just for help topics and it never got used really LOL
[2024-05-18 09:07:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I tried it on my discord community and it's just for help topics and it never got used really LOL
[2024-05-18 09:07:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Mostly because everyone's problems were answered pretty quickly and there was never a need to start forum topics
[2024-05-18 09:07:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Mostly because everyone's problems were answered pretty quickly and there was never a need to start forum topics
[2024-05-18 09:11:49] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @northernscrub any of these topics  today need a forum post?
[2024-05-18 09:11:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| @northernscrub any of these topics  today need a forum post?
[2024-05-18 09:12:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it would be cool to create some kind of executable binary that gives recommended config
[2024-05-18 09:12:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| it would be cool to create some kind of executable binary that gives recommended config
[2024-05-18 09:12:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| at least whilst i suck at cpp and am generally intimidated by the codebase
[2024-05-18 09:12:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| at least whilst i suck at cpp and am generally intimidated by the codebase
[2024-05-18 09:14:00] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| And what does that mean exactly
[2024-05-18 09:14:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| And what does that mean exactly
[2024-05-18 09:14:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @chaotic_nivek Meh. I think it would be a better idea to make a new forum post when the topic of new stuff comes up in the future, then link it here. It's already been discussed now, no point rehashing it
[2024-05-18 09:14:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| @chaotic_nivek Meh. I think it would be a better idea to make a new forum post when the topic of new stuff comes up in the future, then link it here. It's already been discussed now, no point rehashing it
[2024-05-18 09:25:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| like some kind of launcher .exe or whatever that sets a bunch of opinionated but recommended settings around keybinds/cameras/bookmarks and more
[2024-05-18 09:25:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| like some kind of launcher .exe or whatever that sets a bunch of opinionated but recommended settings around keybinds/cameras/bookmarks and more
[2024-05-18 09:27:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ok ya cool idea
[2024-05-18 09:27:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ok ya cool idea
[2024-05-18 09:28:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| actually now i think about it a launcher could be a cool idea. i could build it but it would be in electron and as of now i already have a lot on my plate (currently building the sumobar league scripts and server apis)
[2024-05-18 09:28:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| actually now i think about it a launcher could be a cool idea. i could build it but it would be in electron and as of now i already have a lot on my plate (currently building the sumobar league scripts and server apis)
[2024-05-18 09:29:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| One project at a time
[2024-05-18 09:29:51] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| One project at a time
[2024-05-18 09:41:28] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I'm kind of wishing I knew more about coding so I could be more helpful around here LOL
[2024-05-18 09:41:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I'm kind of wishing I knew more about coding so I could be more helpful around here LOL
[2024-05-18 09:49:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| no better time to start than now!
[2024-05-18 09:49:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| no better time to start than now!
[2024-05-18 09:51:57] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well sure but I don't know where I would start as far as Tron development goes
[2024-05-18 09:51:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well sure but I don't know where I would start as far as Tron development goes
[2024-05-18 13:52:13] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Disagree with deli’s idea of just giving pointers and not solutions. Everything you need to get started in the game should in an ideal world be fed to you as easily as possible, any barrier to entry loses you potential players that would stick around. We need volume more than we need problem solvers and go getters, because those people you want to replace the old timers one day <clipped message>
[2024-05-18 13:52:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Disagree with deli’s idea of just giving pointers and not solutions. Everything you need to get started in the game should in an ideal world be fed to you as easily as possible, any barrier to entry loses you potential players that would stick around. We need volume more than we need problem solvers and go getters, because those people you want to replace the old timers one day <clipped message>
[2024-05-18 13:52:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu|  are out there, but they could be kids now and most kids don’t have patience to figure out a new game when they can probably load up Roblox and play some tron clone with an interface they already know because it’s so popular and their friends play it. What kept me playing as a kid was that there was always something to play with a bunch of people, I wasn’t techy and didn’ <clipped message>
[2024-05-18 13:52:14] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu|  are out there, but they could be kids now and most kids don’t have patience to figure out a new game when they can probably load up Roblox and play some tron clone with an interface they already know because it’s so popular and their friends play it. What kept me playing as a kid was that there was always something to play with a bunch of people, I wasn’t techy and didn’ <clipped message>
[2024-05-18 13:52:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| t understand the forums(or know about it), the settings, really anything for the first 3 or 4 years. We want that volume of players to be sitting in servers playing, and any tiny inconvenience should ideally be removed to help with that. The people that won’t stick around but play for a couple months because it’s easy to get into are so valuable to creating the people who do  <clipped message>
[2024-05-18 13:52:15] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| t understand the forums(or know about it), the settings, really anything for the first 3 or 4 years. We want that volume of players to be sitting in servers playing, and any tiny inconvenience should ideally be removed to help with that. The people that won’t stick around but play for a couple months because it’s easy to get into are so valuable to creating the people who do  <clipped message>
[2024-05-18 13:52:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| stick around, just by them having people to play with, and of varying skill (not all pros)
[2024-05-18 13:52:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| stick around, just by them having people to play with, and of varying skill (not all pros)
[2024-05-18 13:52:54] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I know that’s kinda back to what you guys were talking about for pub games, and agree with those sentiments, but my point is just please give them everything they need lol
[2024-05-18 13:52:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| I know that’s kinda back to what you guys were talking about for pub games, and agree with those sentiments, but my point is just please give them everything they need lol
[2024-05-18 13:53:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Nanu can we do this on the forum tho? Discord too ethereal
[2024-05-18 13:53:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Nanu can we do this on the forum tho? Discord too ethereal
[2024-05-18 13:53:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| We could but nobody looks there, I only check every couple months
[2024-05-18 13:53:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| We could but nobody looks there, I only check every couple months
[2024-05-18 13:53:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| This discord has almost 1k people whereas 5 check the forums
[2024-05-18 13:53:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| This discord has almost 1k people whereas 5 check the forums
[2024-05-18 13:53:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Aye, but if you post a link to your thread it's cush innit. I check once or twice a months
[2024-05-18 13:53:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Aye, but if you post a link to your thread it's cush innit. I check once or twice a months
[2024-05-18 13:54:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| could maybe uise threads here too but shit gets archived and lost all the fucking time because discord is... well, *discord*
[2024-05-18 13:54:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| could maybe uise threads here too but shit gets archived and lost all the fucking time because discord is... well, *discord*
[2024-05-18 13:56:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Yeah I agree discord’s solutions for organizing messages are kinda bad, with maybe the forums part being kinda bad, but I would honestly still go with the discord forums even though we have one, just because it would get way more eyes
[2024-05-18 13:56:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Yeah I agree discord’s solutions for organizing messages are kinda bad, with maybe the forums part being kinda bad, but I would honestly still go with the discord forums even though we have one, just because it would get way more eyes
[2024-05-18 13:56:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Would be cool if there was a cross posting plugin or something, kinda like your irc bot
[2024-05-18 13:56:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Would be cool if there was a cross posting plugin or something, kinda like your irc bot
[2024-05-18 13:57:28] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hmmm. A forums crossposter could be useful. I'd need tank to sign off on any phpbb plugin, but maybe? idk
[2024-05-18 13:57:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Hmmm. A forums crossposter could be useful. I'd need tank to sign off on any phpbb plugin, but maybe? idk
[2024-05-18 13:58:09] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| *agreed with Nanu*
[2024-05-18 13:58:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| *agreed with Nanu*
[2024-05-18 14:00:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the other side is, if I go to the forums, it's because I *intend* to go there. I don't have the time or inclination to regularly check channels myself, although I can't speak for others. The forums allow me to pull up a page of new posts, job done. 
[2024-05-18 14:00:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| the other side is, if I go to the forums, it's because I *intend* to go there. I don't have the time or inclination to regularly check channels myself, although I can't speak for others. The forums allow me to pull up a page of new posts, job done. 
[2024-05-18 14:00:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Channels like #tourneys and #ladle I only ever really look at when it's ladle time or tourney time, and it's very rare that I post in #music  or #pictures  or #videos . If there are others like myself, then it's not unlikely that, rather than getting *more* attention, they'll get *less*. Anyway, a bridge could do the trick, I'm looking in to that now
[2024-05-18 14:00:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Channels like #tourneys and #ladle I only ever really look at when it's ladle time or tourney time, and it's very rare that I post in #music  or #pictures  or #videos . If there are others like myself, then it's not unlikely that, rather than getting *more* attention, they'll get *less*. Anyway, a bridge could do the trick, I'm looking in to that now
[2024-05-18 14:04:58] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:Cadillac| It’s impossible to get less attention than the forums
[2024-05-18 14:04:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:Cadillac| It’s impossible to get less attention than the forums
[2024-05-18 14:06:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| If you don’t mute all channels, they get lit up when there’s something new. You can mute the discord itself and not the channels if you want to see what’s new but not get pinged. Not sure about the discord forums though
[2024-05-18 14:06:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| If you don’t mute all channels, they get lit up when there’s something new. You can mute the discord itself and not the channels if you want to see what’s new but not get pinged. Not sure about the discord forums though
[2024-05-18 14:06:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Half of them are indeed highlighted
[2024-05-18 14:06:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Half of them are indeed highlighted
[2024-05-18 14:07:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| New stuff for you to see!
[2024-05-18 14:07:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| New stuff for you to see!
[2024-05-18 14:07:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| meh
[2024-05-18 14:07:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| meh
[2024-05-18 14:07:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| too much clicky
[2024-05-18 14:07:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| too much clicky
[2024-05-18 14:07:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ok that was a little facetious
[2024-05-18 14:07:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ok that was a little facetious
[2024-05-18 14:07:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Then I manually mute the ones I rarely check so that the users never highlighted
[2024-05-18 14:07:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Then I manually mute the ones I rarely check so that the users never highlighted
[2024-05-18 14:08:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I don't love the idea of muting any specific channels imo. If I am pung, it is because there is a message of import
[2024-05-18 14:08:53] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I don't love the idea of muting any specific channels imo. If I am pung, it is because there is a message of import
[2024-05-18 14:09:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Pings still come thru
[2024-05-18 14:09:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Pings still come thru
[2024-05-18 14:09:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Do they?
[2024-05-18 14:09:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Do they?
[2024-05-18 14:09:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| TIL
[2024-05-18 14:09:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| TIL
[2024-05-18 14:09:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Well at least it shows that you have a little red notif
[2024-05-18 14:09:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Well at least it shows that you have a little red notif
[2024-05-18 14:10:17] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| ping me here and i'll show :p
[2024-05-18 14:10:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| ping me here and i'll show :p
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[2024-05-18 14:10:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Oh, right, yes, that's the default behaviour. I don't do desktop bleeps and bloops. In fact, I think discord is still a bit off, because I did try to enable them on the pickup channel without success
[2024-05-18 14:10:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Oh, right, yes, that's the default behaviour. I don't do desktop bleeps and bloops. In fact, I think discord is still a bit off, because I did try to enable them on the pickup channel without success
[2024-05-18 14:11:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I even installed (shock! horror!) a *desktop notification bus* for this specific purpose. Nope, nuttin.
[2024-05-18 14:11:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I even installed (shock! horror!) a *desktop notification bus* for this specific purpose. Nope, nuttin.
[2024-05-18 14:11:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Although in all fairness, this was exactly the same behaviour as was on Windows
[2024-05-18 14:11:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Although in all fairness, this was exactly the same behaviour as was on Windows
[2024-05-18 14:12:13] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So I was thinking about you how you guys are talking about bridging the forum and the discord but how would you do it in a way that you wouldn't still at the same problem of the form link getting lost in the discord?
[2024-05-18 14:12:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| So I was thinking about you how you guys are talking about bridging the forum and the discord but how would you do it in a way that you wouldn't still at the same problem of the form link getting lost in the discord?
[2024-05-18 14:13:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The bridge is to enable non-ethereal discussion, not for actual player content or advice. Currently, discussion gets lost in the void and someone can miss a couple hundred messages just by walking off to take a shower
[2024-05-18 14:13:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| The bridge is to enable non-ethereal discussion, not for actual player content or advice. Currently, discussion gets lost in the void and someone can miss a couple hundred messages just by walking off to take a shower
[2024-05-18 14:15:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly sometimes you don't speak normal English you know that? Lol
[2024-05-18 14:15:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly sometimes you don't speak normal English you know that? Lol
[2024-05-18 14:16:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I feel like I need a computer science degree to keep up with you guys sometimes
[2024-05-18 14:16:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I feel like I need a computer science degree to keep up with you guys sometimes
[2024-05-18 14:19:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!
[2024-05-18 14:19:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!
[2024-05-18 14:20:19] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| I have one and sometimes can't 😄
[2024-05-18 14:20:19] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| I have one and sometimes can't 😄
[2024-05-18 14:21:36] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| I've just read most of the conversation and realized, hey, I've not looked at the forums for ages!
[2024-05-18 14:21:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| I've just read most of the conversation and realized, hey, I've not looked at the forums for ages!
[2024-05-18 14:21:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I looked yesterday heh
[2024-05-18 14:21:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I looked yesterday heh
[2024-05-18 14:23:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| When was the last time anybody posted something on that thing?
[2024-05-18 14:23:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| When was the last time anybody posted something on that thing?
[2024-05-18 14:24:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Week or two ago
[2024-05-18 14:24:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Week or two ago
[2024-05-18 14:25:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and there's a relatively active thread on NixOS at the moment too
[2024-05-18 14:25:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| and there's a relatively active thread on NixOS at the moment too
[2024-05-18 14:25:27] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Interesting
[2024-05-18 14:25:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Interesting
[2024-05-18 14:26:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| there are threads in discord
[2024-05-18 14:26:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| there are threads in discord
[2024-05-18 14:27:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| just make a #serious channel and have posts as threads
[2024-05-18 14:27:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| just make a #serious channel and have posts as threads
[2024-05-18 14:27:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| easy
[2024-05-18 14:27:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| easy
[2024-05-18 14:27:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| this is 2024 we don’t use forums
[2024-05-18 14:27:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| this is 2024 we don’t use forums
[2024-05-18 14:27:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Aye, but threads are too easily lost. I like the forums bridging idea, honestly
[2024-05-18 14:27:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Aye, but threads are too easily lost. I like the forums bridging idea, honestly
[2024-05-18 14:28:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| for me something like a feed from the forums sounds like a good idea
[2024-05-18 14:28:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| for me something like a feed from the forums sounds like a good idea
[2024-05-18 14:28:10] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| if i get notice of an interesting thread i might post there
[2024-05-18 14:28:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| if i get notice of an interesting thread i might post there
[2024-05-18 14:28:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| For the record hard agree with everything Nanu has said here
[2024-05-18 14:28:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| For the record hard agree with everything Nanu has said here
[2024-05-18 14:28:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf this is not a problem unique to us, there's more than a few FOSS communities having problems with keeping track of stuff on discord, on slack, on that discord competitor etc
[2024-05-18 14:28:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| tbf this is not a problem unique to us, there's more than a few FOSS communities having problems with keeping track of stuff on discord, on slack, on that discord competitor etc
[2024-05-18 14:28:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and at the same time they struggle with findin gtraction with the idea of dedicated, separate-fromdiscord forums too
[2024-05-18 14:28:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| and at the same time they struggle with findin gtraction with the idea of dedicated, separate-fromdiscord forums too
[2024-05-18 14:29:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i managed a community on discord from 500 members to 15k members just with organised channels rolls and a good bot
[2024-05-18 14:29:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i managed a community on discord from 500 members to 15k members just with organised channels rolls and a good bot
[2024-05-18 14:29:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| discord is really all you need
[2024-05-18 14:29:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| discord is really all you need
[2024-05-18 14:29:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| threads are very handy and making channels were every post has to be a thread is essentially the same as a forum
[2024-05-18 14:29:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| threads are very handy and making channels were every post has to be a thread is essentially the same as a forum
[2024-05-18 14:33:44] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Actually what he's saying makes sense ^
[2024-05-18 14:33:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Actually what he's saying makes sense ^
[2024-05-18 14:33:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I understand him correctly that is lol
[2024-05-18 14:33:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I understand him correctly that is lol
[2024-05-18 14:35:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I really can’t echo this enough though
[2024-05-18 14:35:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I really can’t echo this enough though
[2024-05-18 14:35:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| As a kid none of these resources were useful to me. I didn’t see/feel the need until many years later. What kept me around and what ultimately lead the transition into consuming those more systemised resources was the other kids my age able to communicate with me on my level. It’s ultimately a cycle we need to start and it only starts with us accepting that our methods need t <clipped message>
[2024-05-18 14:35:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| As a kid none of these resources were useful to me. I didn’t see/feel the need until many years later. What kept me around and what ultimately lead the transition into consuming those more systemised resources was the other kids my age able to communicate with me on my level. It’s ultimately a cycle we need to start and it only starts with us accepting that our methods need t <clipped message>
[2024-05-18 14:35:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| o change to be palatable to the new generation, then we can just use them (in a non child labour way) to be the community gateway drug (mixing children with drugs is not a great analogy but stick with me)
[2024-05-18 14:35:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| o change to be palatable to the new generation, then we can just use them (in a non child labour way) to be the community gateway drug (mixing children with drugs is not a great analogy but stick with me)
[2024-05-18 14:35:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| We should be creating the most fool proof easily consumable lowest entry barrier things we possibly can
[2024-05-18 14:35:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| We should be creating the most fool proof easily consumable lowest entry barrier things we possibly can
[2024-05-18 14:35:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Even producing assets in the English language cuts down on ease of access. If I had it my way it would be memes and emojis and that’s it
[2024-05-18 14:35:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Even producing assets in the English language cuts down on ease of access. If I had it my way it would be memes and emojis and that’s it
[2024-05-18 14:37:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| > memes and emojis and that's it
[2024-05-18 14:37:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| > memes and emojis and that's it
[2024-05-18 14:37:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| *shudder*
[2024-05-18 14:37:56] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| *shudder*
[2024-05-18 14:38:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| I have seen one or two places where it was done like that and it did look OK for the most part, some channels like #support or #tourneys could be good in the format (mostly because before discord became the popular medium, the forums were used for those)
[2024-05-18 14:38:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| I have seen one or two places where it was done like that and it did look OK for the most part, some channels like #support or #tourneys could be good in the format (mostly because before discord became the popular medium, the forums were used for those)
[2024-05-18 14:39:36] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| one issue I commonly have with discord as main medium for those is I can't just search the internet but have to join a discord server to search for solutions to problems I might have
[2024-05-18 14:39:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| one issue I commonly have with discord as main medium for those is I can't just search the internet but have to join a discord server to search for solutions to problems I might have
[2024-05-18 14:39:55] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| but maybe you are right and it is kind of unavoidable or already at that point
[2024-05-18 14:39:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| but maybe you are right and it is kind of unavoidable or already at that point
[2024-05-18 14:40:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Absolutely fair and that’s where a dedicated documentation site is amazing
[2024-05-18 14:40:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Absolutely fair and that’s where a dedicated documentation site is amazing
[2024-05-18 14:40:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| community curated markdown documents
[2024-05-18 14:40:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| community curated markdown documents
[2024-05-18 14:40:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we as a community are gathered here ultimately in order to create. It’s mostly just creating epic core dumps but many of us create in many other mediums too
[2024-05-18 14:41:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| we as a community are gathered here ultimately in order to create. It’s mostly just creating epic core dumps but many of us create in many other mediums too
[2024-05-18 14:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| Agree with Syn here, thread seem more accessible / easier to navigate now than they were at launch
[2024-05-18 14:56:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 11discord:Deso| Agree with Syn here, thread seem more accessible / easier to navigate now than they were at launch
[2024-05-18 14:56:59] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| and such a small percentage of our base here uses the forums
[2024-05-18 14:56:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 11discord:Deso| and such a small percentage of our base here uses the forums
[2024-05-18 15:01:07] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Is there an advantage to using a thread only channel vs the discord forums feature? I think their forums are better for navigating and searching, and more built for the purpose that we’re talking about
[2024-05-18 15:01:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Is there an advantage to using a thread only channel vs the discord forums feature? I think their forums are better for navigating and searching, and more built for the purpose that we’re talking about
[2024-05-18 15:03:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i’m old school i don’t know much about discord forums but if that’s a feature sounds ideal
[2024-05-18 15:03:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i’m old school i don’t know much about discord forums but if that’s a feature sounds ideal
[2024-05-18 15:05:01] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That's what I was saying earlier but deli was saying that the organization system for it was bad
[2024-05-18 15:05:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| That's what I was saying earlier but deli was saying that the organization system for it was bad
[2024-05-18 17:09:31] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Issue to me most want to know how many hours to get good .. Instead we should be teaching them quickly how to be good .. Hard to compete with the best .. And cause chain reaction of kids showing other kids how to be good
[2024-05-18 17:09:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Issue to me most want to know how many hours to get good .. Instead we should be teaching them quickly how to be good .. Hard to compete with the best .. And cause chain reaction of kids showing other kids how to be good
[2024-05-18 17:11:08] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's not easy to teach somebody who isn't willing to put in the time and effort. Instead of teaching them to go against the best I think it'd be more ideal to have a large player base with a wide skill range
[2024-05-18 17:11:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's not easy to teach somebody who isn't willing to put in the time and effort. Instead of teaching them to go against the best I think it'd be more ideal to have a large player base with a wide skill range
[2024-05-18 17:11:54] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Correct need to make them understand it's a game that starts with small goals .. That leads up to winning matches
[2024-05-18 17:11:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Correct need to make them understand it's a game that starts with small goals .. That leads up to winning matches
[2024-05-18 17:12:37] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| But you are also correct most kids don't wanna grind in the work to still be dumped on
[2024-05-18 17:12:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| But you are also correct most kids don't wanna grind in the work to still be dumped on
[2024-05-18 21:01:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| btw gamers we're renaming grinding to "edging" thanks to @simules
[2024-05-18 21:01:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| btw gamers we're renaming grinding to "edging" thanks to @simules
[2024-05-18 21:01:49] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol
[2024-05-18 21:01:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol
[2024-05-18 21:01:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:simules| lol ty
[2024-05-18 21:01:50] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:simules| lol ty
[2024-05-18 21:01:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Somebody update the wiki quick
[2024-05-18 21:01:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Somebody update the wiki quick
[2024-05-18 21:02:57] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:simules| Its interesting I played this game back in 2010 at a videogame summercamp thing where we made mods for Neverwinter nights 2. I then I just discovered it again.
[2024-05-18 21:02:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:simules| Its interesting I played this game back in 2010 at a videogame summercamp thing where we made mods for Neverwinter nights 2. I then I just discovered it again.
[2024-05-18 21:03:07] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:simules| I think it was 2010. Whenever sc2 came out
[2024-05-18 21:03:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:simules| I think it was 2010. Whenever sc2 came out
[2024-05-18 21:03:12] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:simules| I must have been like 13/14
[2024-05-18 21:03:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:simules| I must have been like 13/14
[2024-05-18 21:03:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I think a good number of ppl found the game through id tech camps, I did at least
[2024-05-18 21:03:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| I think a good number of ppl found the game through id tech camps, I did at least
[2024-05-18 21:03:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Welcome back to the grid!
[2024-05-18 21:03:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Welcome back to the grid!
[2024-05-18 21:03:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Yea welcome back 🙂
[2024-05-18 21:03:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Yea welcome back 🙂
[2024-05-18 21:03:50] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:simules| Its a very cool game for sure!
[2024-05-18 21:03:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:simules| Its a very cool game for sure!
[2024-05-18 21:03:55] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:simules| Will get some friends into it
[2024-05-18 21:03:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:simules| Will get some friends into it
[2024-05-18 21:04:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| If you ever want to play our match made modes, the #pickup channel has a discord bot, we !add or !add [mode_name] to join queue. I think !help works too there
[2024-05-18 21:04:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| If you ever want to play our match made modes, the #pickup channel has a discord bot, we !add or !add [mode_name] to join queue. I think !help works too there
[2024-05-18 21:04:56] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| We have games most days, but small community so only some times of day
[2024-05-18 21:04:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| We have games most days, but small community so only some times of day
[2024-05-18 21:11:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| And during certain hours of the day you can find me in public servers
[2024-05-18 21:11:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| And during certain hours of the day you can find me in public servers
[2024-05-18 21:31:04] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:simules| Thanks for all the info!
[2024-05-18 21:31:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 04discord:simules| Thanks for all the info!
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[2024-05-19 09:05:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| so whats up with the ability to def in fort and sit at 4.9 rubber and just hit the wall and seemingly not die at speeds of 70+?
[2024-05-19 09:05:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| so whats up with the ability to def in fort and sit at 4.9 rubber and just hit the wall and seemingly not die at speeds of 70+?
[2024-05-19 09:05:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| been practicing a lot this morning and it feels a little bit broken
[2024-05-19 09:05:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| been practicing a lot this morning and it feels a little bit broken
[2024-05-19 09:05:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i assume its something to do with ping rubber but what are the actual mechanics behind this and what are the drawbacks?
[2024-05-19 09:05:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i assume its something to do with ping rubber but what are the actual mechanics behind this and what are the drawbacks?
[2024-05-19 10:08:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So I was thinking we have lost a lot of good servers over the years and if this game went viral we might want to bring some of them back, and people might want to host their own servers. Do we have a collection of server configs or something from old servers?
[2024-05-19 10:08:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| So I was thinking we have lost a lot of good servers over the years and if this game went viral we might want to bring some of them back, and people might want to host their own servers. Do we have a collection of server configs or something from old servers?
[2024-05-19 10:09:39] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| which servers specifically are you interested in?
[2024-05-19 10:09:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| which servers specifically are you interested in?
[2024-05-19 10:36:17] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean all of them haha
[2024-05-19 10:36:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean all of them haha
[2024-05-19 10:39:09] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| well, there are a lot of configs around on resources... go to https://www.armanelgtron.tk/aa/resource/ and search .cfg, there are a whole bunch of various configs from old modes, servers, and tournaments
[2024-05-19 10:39:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| well, there are a lot of configs around on resources... go to https://www.armanelgtron.tk/aa/resource/ and search .cfg, there are a whole bunch of various configs from old modes, servers, and tournaments
[2024-05-19 10:39:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241762073621434541/image.png?ex=664b608d&is=664a0f0d&hm=7e74008a7287a64157601579500b11c843b6f97812a7d3379b5b44c221af84fd&
[2024-05-19 10:39:10] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241762073621434541/image.png?ex=664b608d&is=664a0f0d&hm=7e74008a7287a64157601579500b11c843b6f97812a7d3379b5b44c221af84fd&
[2024-05-19 10:40:54] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| also some scattered on the wiki, like the configs for sinewav's adventures of tron servers
[2024-05-19 10:40:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| also some scattered on the wiki, like the configs for sinewav's adventures of tron servers
[2024-05-19 10:40:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241762515743019089/image.png?ex=664b60f6&is=664a0f76&hm=76c0e9d70ce5d2fab5c00d1504e38658f76b79067e61c9da1d171b38557486ed&
[2024-05-19 10:40:55] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241762515743019089/image.png?ex=664b60f6&is=664a0f76&hm=76c0e9d70ce5d2fab5c00d1504e38658f76b79067e61c9da1d171b38557486ed&
[2024-05-19 10:42:56] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Okay yeah that's it. That would be easy to revive servers later if we ever get the players again to utilize them
[2024-05-19 10:42:56] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Okay yeah that's it. That would be easy to revive servers later if we ever get the players again to utilize them
[2024-05-19 10:46:30] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| not all old servers will be easy to find configs for, though... at best they are on mostly-complete archived versions of old websites (crazy-tronners servers), at worst there are almost no traces of the server ever even existing
[2024-05-19 10:46:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| not all old servers will be easy to find configs for, though... at best they are on mostly-complete archived versions of old websites (crazy-tronners servers), at worst there are almost no traces of the server ever even existing
[2024-05-19 10:49:43] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well as many of them in one place as possible would be ideal
[2024-05-19 10:49:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well as many of them in one place as possible would be ideal
[2024-05-19 10:49:50] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| heh those aren't anywhere near the amount that I actually have
[2024-05-19 10:49:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| heh those aren't anywhere near the amount that I actually have
[2024-05-19 10:51:26] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oooh!
[2024-05-19 10:51:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oooh!
[2024-05-19 10:52:47] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| nelg if i prepare a fat folder of configs can you put it on your repo? i did at some point search the forums for a truckload of old configs but the server it was hosted on went down
[2024-05-19 10:52:47] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| nelg if i prepare a fat folder of configs can you put it on your repo? i did at some point search the forums for a truckload of old configs but the server it was hosted on went down
[2024-05-19 10:53:34] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Seems this guy has been on this plan already LOL
[2024-05-19 10:53:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Seems this guy has been on this plan already LOL
[2024-05-19 10:56:29] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| uh sure
[2024-05-19 10:56:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| uh sure
[2024-05-19 10:56:38] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| also was it all the stuff hosted on trontimes?
[2024-05-19 10:56:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| also was it all the stuff hosted on trontimes?
[2024-05-19 10:56:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| pretty much yeah
[2024-05-19 10:56:48] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| pretty much yeah
[2024-05-19 10:57:51] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| but i used to rinclude-link the physics reset back then which made everything break when it went down, so i'd either make them without it or with the reset included in the file now
[2024-05-19 10:57:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| but i used to rinclude-link the physics reset back then which made everything break when it went down, so i'd either make them without it or with the reset included in the file now
[2024-05-19 10:58:21] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| the ones you already have it in the file
[2024-05-19 10:58:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| the ones you already have it in the file
[2024-05-19 10:59:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| One of the things about this game that's missing from when it was popular is that there was such a variety of active servers with active players, so we're going to want a variety of server configs if it ever becomes what it was again
[2024-05-19 10:59:04] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| One of the things about this game that's missing from when it was popular is that there was such a variety of active servers with active players, so we're going to want a variety of server configs if it ever becomes what it was again
[2024-05-19 13:11:33] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I'm not sure it's exactly related to ping rubber since you can abuse it on any ping. The biggest factor on whether you can do it and how tight it is seems to be how stable your internet is though, so maybe something related to ping rubber there idk. I could do it best when I had great internet in virginia with 20 ping, could maybe go 5 min without shrinking enough to gank. We kno <clipped message>
[2024-05-19 13:11:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| I'm not sure it's exactly related to ping rubber since you can abuse it on any ping. The biggest factor on whether you can do it and how tight it is seems to be how stable your internet is though, so maybe something related to ping rubber there idk. I could do it best when I had great internet in virginia with 20 ping, could maybe go 5 min without shrinking enough to gank. We kno <clipped message>
[2024-05-19 13:11:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| w that the game has some buggy rubber settings so it's probably something weird in there. You'll notice that some turns are completely flush with your wall and some bounce you off even if you sit at 4.9 for the same amount of time at the same speed in a box (there could be an exact timing to get it that way, but I haven't noticed, seems random). But that flush turn should actuall <clipped message>
[2024-05-19 13:11:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| w that the game has some buggy rubber settings so it's probably something weird in there. You'll notice that some turns are completely flush with your wall and some bounce you off even if you sit at 4.9 for the same amount of time at the same speed in a box (there could be an exact timing to get it that way, but I haven't noticed, seems random). But that flush turn should actuall <clipped message>
[2024-05-19 13:11:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| y be impossible with the rubber settings we have in fort/sumo: because of your speed and the length of the wall you're hitting, you should have a gap every turn.
[2024-05-19 13:11:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| y be impossible with the rubber settings we have in fort/sumo: because of your speed and the length of the wall you're hitting, you should have a gap every turn.
[2024-05-19 13:11:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| tldr game is buggy
[2024-05-19 13:11:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| tldr game is buggy
[2024-05-19 13:11:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| On whether it's useful or not in fort, I think if your internet is good, it can be a little broken to be able to hold a perfect speedbox for a few min, but you still have to be perfectly setup to do it which won't happen every round. How long you can hold it also feels a little random because you're hoping for the rng of those flush walls, but sometimes the def doesn't even last  <clipped message>
[2024-05-19 13:11:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| On whether it's useful or not in fort, I think if your internet is good, it can be a little broken to be able to hold a perfect speedbox for a few min, but you still have to be perfectly setup to do it which won't happen every round. How long you can hold it also feels a little random because you're hoping for the rng of those flush walls, but sometimes the def doesn't even last  <clipped message>
[2024-05-19 13:11:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| that long into the round compared to other setups. It is definitely easy though and could make someone who is not comfortable at def be very useful compared to their skill level and how long they would normally be able to hold def. I would say it's similar to step def in terms of: it's easy to do, difficult to break, lasts a long time, but with the difference being the speedbox i <clipped message>
[2024-05-19 13:11:40] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| that long into the round compared to other setups. It is definitely easy though and could make someone who is not comfortable at def be very useful compared to their skill level and how long they would normally be able to hold def. I would say it's similar to step def in terms of: it's easy to do, difficult to break, lasts a long time, but with the difference being the speedbox i <clipped message>
[2024-05-19 13:11:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| s much better at blocking holes but step def can last longer and be more consistent if you are good at managing your rubber and turns.
[2024-05-19 13:11:41] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| s much better at blocking holes but step def can last longer and be more consistent if you are good at managing your rubber and turns.
[2024-05-19 13:11:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Another place sitting at 4.9 rubber forever really comes into play is mazing. Look at the rubber meter on most of the tight mazes in #challenges:
[2024-05-19 13:11:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Another place sitting at 4.9 rubber forever really comes into play is mazing. Look at the rubber meter on most of the tight mazes in #challenges:
[2024-05-19 13:11:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| msg length 🤤
[2024-05-19 13:11:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| msg length 🤤
[2024-05-19 13:12:11] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Especially KB's here https://imgur.com/a/i6j84aD
[2024-05-19 13:12:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| Especially KB's here https://imgur.com/a/i6j84aD
[2024-05-19 13:13:05] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| and ampz's https://imgur.com/a/13rWgNz
[2024-05-19 13:13:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| and ampz's https://imgur.com/a/13rWgNz
[2024-05-19 13:14:49] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| These guys are cracked at mazing for sure, but I don't think all of the mazes people do where they sit at 4.9 they are gaining just enough rubber for the next turn. You still have to be really good at the timing to not die in the mazes, but there seems to be some forgiveness there when you're doing turns at the corners of walls, which I think lets a lot of these mazes actually work
[2024-05-19 13:14:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| These guys are cracked at mazing for sure, but I don't think all of the mazes people do where they sit at 4.9 they are gaining just enough rubber for the next turn. You still have to be really good at the timing to not die in the mazes, but there seems to be some forgiveness there when you're doing turns at the corners of walls, which I think lets a lot of these mazes actually work
[2024-05-19 13:17:53] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| And I think this is useful in sumo in practical mazes too that you use to save space, not just fancy ones
[2024-05-19 13:17:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| And I think this is useful in sumo in practical mazes too that you use to save space, not just fancy ones
[2024-05-19 13:47:44] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| It's probably one of the lag leniency settings. I know that local games don't have it.
[2024-05-19 13:47:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| It's probably one of the lag leniency settings. I know that local games don't have it.
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[2024-05-19 14:45:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So what are some good movie packs to tryout?
[2024-05-19 14:45:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| So what are some good movie packs to tryout?
[2024-05-19 15:26:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:opkarl| im new to the game, can anyone tell me how to brake and speed up?
[2024-05-19 15:26:15] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:opkarl| im new to the game, can anyone tell me how to brake and speed up?
[2024-05-19 15:27:01] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| yeah, your cycle will accel when you are near another player's wall
[2024-05-19 15:27:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| yeah, your cycle will accel when you are near another player's wall
[2024-05-19 15:27:11] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:opkarl| ah ok ty!
[2024-05-19 15:27:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:opkarl| ah ok ty!
[2024-05-19 15:27:13] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| and brake i think is v or space by default?
[2024-05-19 15:27:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| and brake i think is v or space by default?
[2024-05-19 15:27:45] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:opkarl| yup
[2024-05-19 15:27:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:opkarl| yup
[2024-05-19 15:27:46] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| you can rebind all the key binds in player setup > player 1 settings > input configuration
[2024-05-19 15:27:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| you can rebind all the key binds in player setup > player 1 settings > input configuration
[2024-05-19 15:28:30] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| @opkarl https://retrocycles.net/#basics has some very helpful info
[2024-05-19 15:28:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| @opkarl https://retrocycles.net/#basics has some very helpful info
[2024-05-19 15:28:37] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:opkarl| ty!
[2024-05-19 15:28:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:opkarl| ty!
[2024-05-19 15:33:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Does anybody remember a Sumo bar server that had a system where when you had enough players it would divide you into multiple different rings? I think it went up to 4
[2024-05-19 15:33:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Does anybody remember a Sumo bar server that had a system where when you had enough players it would divide you into multiple different rings? I think it went up to 4
[2024-05-19 15:34:23] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| crazy tronners open sumo
[2024-05-19 15:34:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| crazy tronners open sumo
[2024-05-19 15:39:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Maybe it would be a good idea to set up our sumo League servers so that they do something like that @syn_acc
[2024-05-19 15:39:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Maybe it would be a good idea to set up our sumo League servers so that they do something like that @syn_acc
[2024-05-19 15:39:40] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Maybe that way we can do something to keep the players per zone a bit lower to make it easier for lesser skilled players
[2024-05-19 15:39:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Maybe that way we can do something to keep the players per zone a bit lower to make it easier for lesser skilled players
[2024-05-19 15:39:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| not making any conjecture about how it should be played to start with
[2024-05-19 15:39:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| not making any conjecture about how it should be played to start with
[2024-05-19 15:39:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| gonna be completely community driven
[2024-05-19 15:39:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| gonna be completely community driven
[2024-05-19 15:39:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if they want it sure
[2024-05-19 15:39:55] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| if they want it sure
[2024-05-19 15:40:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we can come up with a list of options/additions that can be voted on
[2024-05-19 15:40:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| we can come up with a list of options/additions that can be voted on
[2024-05-19 15:44:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i could put up a server like that though
[2024-05-19 15:44:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| i could put up a server like that though
[2024-05-19 15:45:18] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That was actually a server that I play sumo on way back
[2024-05-19 15:45:18] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| That was actually a server that I play sumo on way back
[2024-05-19 16:09:46] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| @justkoala I was on tiktok just now and you got recommended to me randomly
[2024-05-19 16:09:46] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| @justkoala I was on tiktok just now and you got recommended to me randomly
[2024-05-19 16:09:51] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| Good shit man
[2024-05-19 16:09:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| Good shit man
[2024-05-19 16:10:41] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| Haha i've been hearing this alot
[2024-05-19 16:10:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| Haha i've been hearing this alot
[2024-05-19 16:11:08] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLpSNVsR/
[2024-05-19 16:11:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLpSNVsR/
[2024-05-19 16:11:11] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| This was what I saw
[2024-05-19 16:11:12] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| This was what I saw
[2024-05-19 16:11:16] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| stop by sometime ❤️
[2024-05-19 16:11:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| stop by sometime ❤️
[2024-05-19 16:11:20] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| Now I’m like I gotta get back on it
[2024-05-19 16:11:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| Now I’m like I gotta get back on it
[2024-05-19 16:11:27] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| ye that's the one that got the most traction
[2024-05-19 16:11:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| ye that's the one that got the most traction
[2024-05-19 16:11:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| Didn’t know it was that alive
[2024-05-19 16:11:27] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| Didn’t know it was that alive
[2024-05-19 16:11:39] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| it's been decently active lately
[2024-05-19 16:11:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| it's been decently active lately
[2024-05-19 16:12:09] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| I haven’t played tron since I got my gaming pc
[2024-05-19 16:12:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| I haven’t played tron since I got my gaming pc
[2024-05-19 16:12:21] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| I was pushing it to see what I could do with my specs
[2024-05-19 16:12:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| I was pushing it to see what I could do with my specs
[2024-05-19 16:13:29] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| maybe you will finally be able to play with floor mirror on
[2024-05-19 16:13:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 15discord:Nélg| maybe you will finally be able to play with floor mirror on
[2024-05-19 16:13:51] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| Lmao iv never liked floor mirror
[2024-05-19 16:13:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| Lmao iv never liked floor mirror
[2024-05-19 16:13:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241846300979232788/IMG_4465.jpg?ex=664baefe&is=664a5d7e&hm=5f228b474aa2542750cff45e780e9155db7fcc48285b612ed35d2554933f1079&
[2024-05-19 16:13:51] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241846300979232788/IMG_4465.jpg?ex=664baefe&is=664a5d7e&hm=5f228b474aa2542750cff45e780e9155db7fcc48285b612ed35d2554933f1079&
[2024-05-19 16:13:58] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| 4070ti 5950x
[2024-05-19 16:13:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| 4070ti 5950x
[2024-05-19 16:14:10] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| But I’m on now
[2024-05-19 16:14:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| But I’m on now
[2024-05-19 16:14:17] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| Bout to be hella rusty
[2024-05-19 16:14:17] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| Bout to be hella rusty
[2024-05-19 16:16:00] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| I can’t remember how to type lmao
[2024-05-19 16:16:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| I can’t remember how to type lmao
[2024-05-19 16:22:44] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| @wwnelg we need tech support in sumobar
[2024-05-19 16:22:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:justkoala| @wwnelg we need tech support in sumobar
[2024-05-19 16:23:16] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| Lmfaooo
[2024-05-19 16:23:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| Lmfaooo
[2024-05-19 16:32:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| clean
[2024-05-19 16:32:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| clean
[2024-05-19 16:32:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| cue pc build spam
[2024-05-19 16:32:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| cue pc build spam
[2024-05-19 16:33:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241851334148493372/dirty-pc-large-100836649-large.png?ex=664bb3ae&is=664a622e&hm=f9c2c64dae1005f24fe9126d4b3f3398ebb53d77e3fb56e9e7b506d8a244a21c&
[2024-05-19 16:33:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241851334148493372/dirty-pc-large-100836649-large.png?ex=664bb3ae&is=664a622e&hm=f9c2c64dae1005f24fe9126d4b3f3398ebb53d77e3fb56e9e7b506d8a244a21c&
[2024-05-19 16:34:56] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241851610406191184/20240427_055050.jpg?ex=664bb3f0&is=664a6270&hm=1835bc302e5e604a0880db654c44239d1490d93e457508172183d9aa5f85c74e&
[2024-05-19 16:34:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241851610406191184/20240427_055050.jpg?ex=664bb3f0&is=664a6270&hm=1835bc302e5e604a0880db654c44239d1490d93e457508172183d9aa5f85c74e&
[2024-05-19 16:36:28] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241851994952695808/HBQZTBD5QtsqFn6f5PmRyq2eBYpn5xAPR8eEaxrNEDc.png?ex=664bb44c&is=664a62cc&hm=b290813d81c9f55d4fb971146e82d82ae14b5d0d221d4fe18c032646e75fd299&
[2024-05-19 16:36:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241851994952695808/HBQZTBD5QtsqFn6f5PmRyq2eBYpn5xAPR8eEaxrNEDc.png?ex=664bb44c&is=664a62cc&hm=b290813d81c9f55d4fb971146e82d82ae14b5d0d221d4fe18c032646e75fd299&
[2024-05-19 17:28:12] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:qutopyo| peak retrocycles set up there
[2024-05-19 17:28:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:qutopyo| peak retrocycles set up there
[2024-05-19 17:30:54] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| it also runs DOOM
[2024-05-19 17:30:54] <armagetron-bridge_> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| it also runs DOOM
[2024-05-19 17:33:21] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| Just let me know when you guys run sumo I’ll slowly get back into it
[2024-05-19 17:33:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| Just let me know when you guys run sumo I’ll slowly get back into it
[2024-05-19 17:34:06] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| I have to carry out xyrons and wap legacy still
[2024-05-19 17:34:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| I have to carry out xyrons and wap legacy still
[2024-05-19 17:39:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just check #pickup for our TST matches
[2024-05-19 17:39:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just check #pickup for our TST matches
[2024-05-19 17:39:34] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I'm often I pub sumo so ping me sometimes if you wanna do some pub sumo
[2024-05-19 17:39:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I'm often I pub sumo so ping me sometimes if you wanna do some pub sumo
[2024-05-19 17:50:29] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| @chaotic_nivek  bet
[2024-05-19 17:50:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| @chaotic_nivek  bet
[2024-05-19 18:45:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| US sumobar casual league server is up
[2024-05-19 18:45:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| US sumobar casual league server is up
[2024-05-19 18:45:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| will do more dev work tomorrow
[2024-05-19 18:45:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| will do more dev work tomorrow
[2024-05-19 18:48:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| yay!
[2024-05-19 18:48:42] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| yay!
[2024-05-19 20:02:34] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| @justkoala @ninjapotato1080 is fixed my fps
[2024-05-19 20:02:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| @justkoala @ninjapotato1080 is fixed my fps
[2024-05-19 20:02:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241903862755889263/IMG_4467.jpg?ex=664be49a&is=664a931a&hm=cf9019610c817e9ca1198b9bc58c11e0d52f0b7b5a3bf4ae8db28abad8993177&
[2024-05-19 20:02:35] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1241903862755889263/IMG_4467.jpg?ex=664be49a&is=664a931a&hm=cf9019610c817e9ca1198b9bc58c11e0d52f0b7b5a3bf4ae8db28abad8993177&
[2024-05-19 20:02:48] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:SoaR| I think this will help
[2024-05-19 20:02:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 10discord:SoaR| I think this will help
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[2024-05-20 01:51:53] <Lucifer_arma> I bought an evaporative cooler, and it seems to really work.  I haven't tested it in the van under the intense Texas heat, but here in the apartment (which I still haven't been actually evicted from) it's working great.  
[2024-05-20 01:51:53] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I bought an evaporative cooler, and it seems to really work.  I haven't tested it in the van under the intense Texas heat, but here in the apartment (which I still haven't been actually evicted from) it's working great.
[2024-05-20 01:52:12] <Lucifer_arma> It uses water as the coolant, vaporizing it and then blowing it from a fan.
[2024-05-20 01:52:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| It uses water as the coolant, vaporizing it and then blowing it from a fan.
[2024-05-20 01:52:42] <Lucifer_arma> I think it'll actually be able to cool the interior of the van, but it'll also make it very humid, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
[2024-05-20 01:52:42] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I think it'll actually be able to cool the interior of the van, but it'll also make it very humid, so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
[2024-05-20 09:35:44] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Swamp cooler is there nickname I believe I know they work well in houses but dunno bout in vehicle id assume it would work
[2024-05-20 09:35:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 14discord:Grimm| Swamp cooler is there nickname I believe I know they work well in houses but dunno bout in vehicle id assume it would work
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[2024-05-20 20:52:33] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, they're also called swamp coolers.  They work by blowing heat into vaporized water.  They're common in the desert because they're really unbelievably energy efficient, if water intensive.  I'm a bit concerned how well it'll work in the texas humidity, though
[2024-05-20 20:52:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yeah, they're also called swamp coolers.  They work by blowing heat into vaporized water.  They're common in the desert because they're really unbelievably energy efficient, if water intensive.  I'm a bit concerned how well it'll work in the texas humidity, though
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[2024-05-21 03:00:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| good morning team/gang/squad/crew/brigade/taskforce/faction/syndicate/ensemble
[2024-05-21 03:00:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| good morning team/gang/squad/crew/brigade/taskforce/faction/syndicate/ensemble
[2024-05-21 03:11:50] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Greetings programs!
[2024-05-21 03:11:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Greetings programs!
[2024-05-21 06:21:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the worst is working in a silent office and someone sits next to you and starts bashing their keyboard with eternal fury
[2024-05-21 06:21:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| the worst is working in a silent office and someone sits next to you and starts bashing their keyboard with eternal fury
[2024-05-21 06:25:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol they must be practicing their mazes
[2024-05-21 06:25:20] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol they must be practicing their mazes
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[2024-05-22 00:05:23] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| Can I post something off-topic here?
[2024-05-22 00:05:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| Can I post something off-topic here?
[2024-05-22 00:05:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40437175
[2024-05-22 00:05:30] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40437175
[2024-05-22 03:07:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| people are absurdly sensitive these days
[2024-05-22 03:07:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| people are absurdly sensitive these days
[2024-05-22 03:07:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| like im the sensitive one around here and that to me reads as an overly edgy joke and nothing more
[2024-05-22 03:07:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| like im the sensitive one around here and that to me reads as an overly edgy joke and nothing more
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[2024-05-22 05:30:33] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I doubt that would have flown ten or twenty years ago either tbh. Kinda feels similar to that xbox ad that was rejected by ofcom years ago. Don't much give a shit either, but regulators tend to frown on trivialising mental health issues.
[2024-05-22 05:30:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I doubt that would have flown ten or twenty years ago either tbh. Kinda feels similar to that xbox ad that was rejected by ofcom years ago. Don't much give a shit either, but regulators tend to frown on trivialising mental health issues.
[2024-05-22 05:30:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| The comment though, that's just shitty.
[2024-05-22 05:30:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The comment though, that's just shitty.
[2024-05-22 05:46:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I actually saw this ad and comment a while ago
[2024-05-22 05:46:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I actually saw this ad and comment a while ago
[2024-05-22 05:47:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| The company is basically using controversial ads on purpose to generate attention
[2024-05-22 05:47:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| The company is basically using controversial ads on purpose to generate attention
[2024-05-22 06:12:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah their site is extremely cringe
[2024-05-22 06:12:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| yeah their site is extremely cringe
[2024-05-22 06:16:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the whole idea of being deliberately "edgy" as a business never sat right with me. Same with all this relateability shite. You're either a business, a drama synonym
[2024-05-22 06:16:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| the whole idea of being deliberately "edgy" as a business never sat right with me. Same with all this relateability shite. You're either a business, a drama synonym
[2024-05-22 06:17:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| man my brain just doesn't wanna language today
[2024-05-22 06:17:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| man my brain just doesn't wanna language today
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[2024-05-22 09:52:52] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| @syn_acc ur cool. So strong! What about people that arent as strong mentally? What about the truly sensitive ones? Why dont they matter lol
[2024-05-22 09:52:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| @syn_acc ur cool. So strong! What about people that arent as strong mentally? What about the truly sensitive ones? Why dont they matter lol
[2024-05-22 09:53:29] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| Its all “im so tough” until someone you know and love harms themselves.
[2024-05-22 09:53:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| Its all “im so tough” until someone you know and love harms themselves.
[2024-05-22 09:53:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| Then a company scratching and clawing for money at others expense starts to piss you off :p
[2024-05-22 09:53:58] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| Then a company scratching and clawing for money at others expense starts to piss you off :p
[2024-05-22 09:58:57] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| @chaotic_nivek i almost wonder if even responding is a good idea because i feel like their target audience are assclowns and it might drum them up more business if we let other pieces of shite know they exist
[2024-05-22 09:58:57] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| @chaotic_nivek i almost wonder if even responding is a good idea because i feel like their target audience are assclowns and it might drum them up more business if we let other pieces of shite know they exist
[2024-05-22 10:02:24] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| Anyways sorry for offtopic here
[2024-05-22 10:02:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| Anyways sorry for offtopic here
[2024-05-22 11:33:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I'm here to raise awareness about something disgusting that I just found.
[2024-05-22 11:33:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I'm here to raise awareness about something disgusting that I just found.
[2024-05-22 11:34:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| The company Devslopes (https://www.devslopes.com/) made an ad/video which I just saw on Facebook Reels. In the video it portrayed a janitor that wanted to end his life by jumping from the top of a roof. Someone ran up behind him and said "...you can still learn how to code...".
[2024-05-22 11:34:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| The company Devslopes (https://www.devslopes.com/) made an ad/video which I just saw on Facebook Reels. In the video it portrayed a janitor that wanted to end his life by jumping from the top of a roof. Someone ran up behind him and said "...you can still learn how to code...".
[2024-05-22 11:34:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I was absolutely disgusted and then checked the comments. A top comment was someone explaining how they were a janitor and had similar thoughts and then Devslopes commented something that seemed a lot like teasing them. I've uploaded the screenshot I got to imgur.
[2024-05-22 11:34:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I was absolutely disgusted and then checked the comments. A top comment was someone explaining how they were a janitor and had similar thoughts and then Devslopes commented something that seemed a lot like teasing them. I've uploaded the screenshot I got to imgur.
[2024-05-22 11:34:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Let's not forget nor forgive Devslopes for this disgusting behavior...
[2024-05-22 11:34:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Let's not forget nor forgive Devslopes for this disgusting behavior...
[2024-05-22 11:34:03] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| https://imgur.com/a/devslopes-is-disgusting-ZRqfxjH
[2024-05-22 11:34:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://imgur.com/a/devslopes-is-disgusting-ZRqfxjH
[2024-05-22 11:34:05] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| reply
[2024-05-22 11:34:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| reply
[2024-05-22 11:34:06] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Listen. Strength isn't just about muscles and fortitude. It's about resilience, adaptability, and compassion. Mental strength isn't about being impervious to pain; it's about acknowledging it, facing it, and rising above it.
[2024-05-22 11:34:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Listen. Strength isn't just about muscles and fortitude. It's about resilience, adaptability, and compassion. Mental strength isn't about being impervious to pain; it's about acknowledging it, facing it, and rising above it.
[2024-05-22 11:34:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Being sensitive can offer deep insights and empathy, but there’s a fine line where it becomes a crutch. To thrive, especially in tough environments, you need to toughen your mental armour. It's about developing a mindset that doesn't crumble under pressure, that sees challenges as opportunities, and pain as a catalyst for growth, and doesn't become emotionally derailed at the c <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 11:34:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Being sensitive can offer deep insights and empathy, but there’s a fine line where it becomes a crutch. To thrive, especially in tough environments, you need to toughen your mental armour. It's about developing a mindset that doesn't crumble under pressure, that sees challenges as opportunities, and pain as a catalyst for growth, and doesn't become emotionally derailed at the c <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 11:34:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| ynicism or arrogance of others.
[2024-05-22 11:34:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ynicism or arrogance of others.
[2024-05-22 11:34:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I am in no way excusing their actions, but <continue>
[2024-05-22 11:34:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I am in no way excusing their actions, but <continue>
[2024-05-22 11:36:28] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Listen. Strength isn't just about muscles and fortitude. It's about resilience, adaptability, and compassion. Mental strength isn't about being impervious to pain; it's about acknowledging it, facing it, and rising above it.
[2024-05-22 11:36:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Listen. Strength isn't just about muscles and fortitude. It's about resilience, adaptability, and compassion. Mental strength isn't about being impervious to pain; it's about acknowledging it, facing it, and rising above it.
[2024-05-22 11:36:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Being sensitive can offer deep insights and empathy, but there’s a fine line where it becomes a crutch. To thrive, especially in tough environments, you need to toughen your mental armour. It's about developing a mindset that doesn't crumble under pressure, that sees challenges as opportunities, and pain as a catalyst for growth, and doesn't become emotionally derailed at the c <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 11:36:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Being sensitive can offer deep insights and empathy, but there’s a fine line where it becomes a crutch. To thrive, especially in tough environments, you need to toughen your mental armour. It's about developing a mindset that doesn't crumble under pressure, that sees challenges as opportunities, and pain as a catalyst for growth, and doesn't become emotionally derailed at the c <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 11:36:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| ynicism or arrogance of others.
[2024-05-22 11:36:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ynicism or arrogance of others.
[2024-05-22 11:36:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I am in no way excusing their actions, but see this as an oppurtunity to look upon those who employ cheap tactics as a beacon of your own actions in the future. Let your actions be the signal of your virtues, not the demands of compliance from external communities.
[2024-05-22 11:36:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I am in no way excusing their actions, but see this as an oppurtunity to look upon those who employ cheap tactics as a beacon of your own actions in the future. Let your actions be the signal of your virtues, not the demands of compliance from external communities.
[2024-05-22 11:38:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Companies exploiting emotional vulnerabilities for financial gain is nothing new. All you did was give them free publicity, exactly what this garbage ad intended.
[2024-05-22 11:38:07] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Companies exploiting emotional vulnerabilities for financial gain is nothing new. All you did was give them free publicity, exactly what this garbage ad intended.
[2024-05-22 11:44:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Part of the issue imo is regulation. It hasn't caught up to modern technology in any way, shape or form, which means these sorts of shit businesses get away with stuff for far longer, and far more often, than they ever should. We end up seeing more content that has a negative psychological impact, rather than a small, manageable amount of it. Given so much of the internet revolve <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 11:44:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Part of the issue imo is regulation. It hasn't caught up to modern technology in any way, shape or form, which means these sorts of shit businesses get away with stuff for far longer, and far more often, than they ever should. We end up seeing more content that has a negative psychological impact, rather than a small, manageable amount of it. Given so much of the internet revolve <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 11:44:26] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| s around content now, it's kind of disturbing how poorly it is being managed. Ofcom, for example, has only just recently started looking into youtube ads and sponsor segments - yet these have been a prominent part of the platform for over a decade. 
[2024-05-22 11:44:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| s around content now, it's kind of disturbing how poorly it is being managed. Ofcom, for example, has only just recently started looking into youtube ads and sponsor segments - yet these have been a prominent part of the platform for over a decade. 
[2024-05-22 11:44:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| That changes the dynamic as well - society is simultansouely desennesitised, and yet highly sensitised
[2024-05-22 11:44:28] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That changes the dynamic as well - society is simultansouely desennesitised, and yet highly sensitised
[2024-05-22 11:46:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's funny, I once thought of the concept of the dichotomy of man as singularly discussing war and peace. Turns out no, we're just generally a bit hypocritical at times
[2024-05-22 11:46:35] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| It's funny, I once thought of the concept of the dichotomy of man as singularly discussing war and peace. Turns out no, we're just generally a bit hypocritical at times
[2024-05-22 11:50:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Absolutely - combine that with a burgeoning social science ecosystem that is becoming increasingly skilled and capable at manufacturing emotions within us for whatever agenda they so choose, and it leaves the only viable solution to simply not consume anything at all.
[2024-05-22 11:50:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Absolutely - combine that with a burgeoning social science ecosystem that is becoming increasingly skilled and capable at manufacturing emotions within us for whatever agenda they so choose, and it leaves the only viable solution to simply not consume anything at all.
[2024-05-22 11:50:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Naturally, this doesn't work. In order to participate in society and express creative freedom we are forced to ingest this wide array of frequencies. The only thing we can attempt to control is our response to it, and how much we choose to further proliferate it. 
[2024-05-22 11:50:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Naturally, this doesn't work. In order to participate in society and express creative freedom we are forced to ingest this wide array of frequencies. The only thing we can attempt to control is our response to it, and how much we choose to further proliferate it. 
[2024-05-22 11:50:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| This conversation quickly tends into murky areas about the benefits of perceived free will and objective morality. I don't intend to go there. But on the whole, learning to let go is generally for the best.
[2024-05-22 11:50:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| This conversation quickly tends into murky areas about the benefits of perceived free will and objective morality. I don't intend to go there. But on the whole, learning to let go is generally for the best.
[2024-05-22 11:51:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Choose your battles, essentially. Ya, true enough, but getting regulation caught up with it all is not unimportant
[2024-05-22 11:51:32] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Choose your battles, essentially. Ya, true enough, but getting regulation caught up with it all is not unimportant
[2024-05-22 12:04:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Generally an enemy of permanent regulation. Very hard to foresee how circumstances and scenarios change
[2024-05-22 12:04:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Generally an enemy of permanent regulation. Very hard to foresee how circumstances and scenarios change
[2024-05-22 12:05:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| A debate I have often with peers - how standardisation tends to limit innovation in the extremes
[2024-05-22 12:05:29] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| A debate I have often with peers - how standardisation tends to limit innovation in the extremes
[2024-05-22 12:06:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| We discussed earlier about how certain pieces of regulation (RIPA) only served to cultivate a contingency of social fear and distrust
[2024-05-22 12:06:30] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| We discussed earlier about how certain pieces of regulation (RIPA) only served to cultivate a contingency of social fear and distrust
[2024-05-22 12:07:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| My view would be less extreme if I felt laws were repealed at a greater frequency than they seem to be
[2024-05-22 12:07:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| My view would be less extreme if I felt laws were repealed at a greater frequency than they seem to be
[2024-05-22 13:11:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| In some respects I concur - sometimes regulation is poorly thought out. The USB-C thing in the EU, for example - the stated objective was "to reduce the environmental impact of discarded cables", but the number of cables discarded and replaced isn't going to necessarily change that much as a result. A better approach would have been to better manage and regulate the cheap tat tha <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 13:11:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| In some respects I concur - sometimes regulation is poorly thought out. The USB-C thing in the EU, for example - the stated objective was "to reduce the environmental impact of discarded cables", but the number of cables discarded and replaced isn't going to necessarily change that much as a result. A better approach would have been to better manage and regulate the cheap tat tha <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 13:11:40] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| t gets horked out by factories in the far east that have little regard for the integrity of what they produce, and even less for the wellbeing of their employees. 
[2024-05-22 13:11:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| t gets horked out by factories in the far east that have little regard for the integrity of what they produce, and even less for the wellbeing of their employees. 
[2024-05-22 13:11:41] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| That said, some regulation is the complete opposite - The reasoning behind forcing ISPs to guarantee bandwidth, for example, was actually intended to reduce traffic shaping and encourage infrastructure development - i.e. "stop taking the easy way out and start actually doing what you say you will". 
[2024-05-22 13:11:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That said, some regulation is the complete opposite - The reasoning behind forcing ISPs to guarantee bandwidth, for example, was actually intended to reduce traffic shaping and encourage infrastructure development - i.e. "stop taking the easy way out and start actually doing what you say you will". 
[2024-05-22 13:11:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Then we have complete failures of regulation to be properly enforced - like daytime running lights, which are the pinnacle of stupidity in a country that is quite wet, and uses roadway material that is highly reflective when wet. It's an offense under the highway code to drive with your lights on when not required, precisely because of this. Same with the brightness of vehicle li <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 13:11:43] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Then we have complete failures of regulation to be properly enforced - like daytime running lights, which are the pinnacle of stupidity in a country that is quite wet, and uses roadway material that is highly reflective when wet. It's an offense under the highway code to drive with your lights on when not required, precisely because of this. Same with the brightness of vehicle li <clipped message>
[2024-05-22 13:11:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| ghts in general. Somewhere like Sweden? Makes total sense, lots of snow and dark clouds for a significant portion of the year. Sure, mandate sidelights during the day.
[2024-05-22 13:11:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ghts in general. Somewhere like Sweden? Makes total sense, lots of snow and dark clouds for a significant portion of the year. Sure, mandate sidelights during the day.
[2024-05-22 13:11:45] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| So ya, regulation can be a bit hit and miss. Needs a fine and delicate hand to do it right.
[2024-05-22 13:11:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| So ya, regulation can be a bit hit and miss. Needs a fine and delicate hand to do it right.
[2024-05-22 13:29:24] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ppotter| @northernscrub  "It's an offense under the highway code to drive with your lights on when not required, precisely because of this."
[2024-05-22 13:29:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ppotter| @northernscrub  "It's an offense under the highway code to drive with your lights on when not required, precisely because of this."
[2024-05-22 13:29:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ppotter| there's a generic rule about not dazzling other road users, and there is a rule specifically about turning fog lights off when not required, but I don't think there is one that specifically states you must switch all lights off when not required
[2024-05-22 13:29:25] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ppotter| there's a generic rule about not dazzling other road users, and there is a rule specifically about turning fog lights off when not required, but I don't think there is one that specifically states you must switch all lights off when not required
[2024-05-22 14:15:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| Well, no, because that would be overly specific, and would be unenforcable in, for example, an unlit tunnel. But before the introduction of DRLs, drivers can and did gain cautions for dangerous driving, thanks to lights being on in the day. I even saw one blokey get a stern talking to after he fitted stupid bright DRLs to his van in around 2012ish.
[2024-05-22 14:15:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Well, no, because that would be overly specific, and would be unenforcable in, for example, an unlit tunnel. But before the introduction of DRLs, drivers can and did gain cautions for dangerous driving, thanks to lights being on in the day. I even saw one blokey get a stern talking to after he fitted stupid bright DRLs to his van in around 2012ish.
[2024-05-22 14:16:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| maybe a bit earlier tbh, or perhaps even later. My memories of that time are kinda foggy
[2024-05-22 14:16:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| maybe a bit earlier tbh, or perhaps even later. My memories of that time are kinda foggy
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[2024-05-22 15:12:52] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| @syn_acc i get it. A strong mental fortitude is great. Not everyone has one. Some people are very fragile and that joke from devslopes could push someone over the edge. Why risk it? Because freedom?
[2024-05-22 15:12:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| @syn_acc i get it. A strong mental fortitude is great. Not everyone has one. Some people are very fragile and that joke from devslopes could push someone over the edge. Why risk it? Because freedom?
[2024-05-22 15:13:19] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| Why not just avoid teasing people who are at risk
[2024-05-22 15:13:20] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| Why not just avoid teasing people who are at risk
[2024-05-22 15:15:02] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:dockeo| I think you can be proud of your own growth and compassionate about other peoples journeys
[2024-05-22 15:15:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 13discord:dockeo| I think you can be proud of your own growth and compassionate about other peoples journeys
[2024-05-22 16:13:52] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:ppotter| Properly implemented DRLs are not blinding anybody during the day. The brightness and beam pattern of "dipped" lights in current cars is an issue, yes
[2024-05-22 16:13:52] <armagetron-bridge_> 05discord:ppotter| Properly implemented DRLs are not blinding anybody during the day. The brightness and beam pattern of "dipped" lights in current cars is an issue, yes
[2024-05-22 16:20:15] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I find them to be quite painful to drive past, but ya maybe beam pattern is a big part of it.
[2024-05-22 16:20:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 08discord:delinquent| I find them to be quite painful to drive past, but ya maybe beam pattern is a big part of it.
[2024-05-22 17:56:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I fucking love nvidia
[2024-05-22 17:56:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I fucking love nvidia
[2024-05-22 18:14:31] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| They are brighter than my 30 year trucks brights on their dim setting lol
[2024-05-22 18:14:31] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| They are brighter than my 30 year trucks brights on their dim setting lol
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[2024-05-23 02:36:34] <Lucifer_arma_> I've finally been given my order to vacate in 24 hours.  So as of tomorrow, I'll be living in the van.
[2024-05-23 02:36:34] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I've finally been given my order to vacate in 24 hours.  So as of tomorrow, I'll be living in the van.
[2024-05-23 02:36:56] <Lucifer_arma_> So I guess this is the time for me to grab all the before shots of the van.
[2024-05-23 02:36:57] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| So I guess this is the time for me to grab all the before shots of the van.
[2024-05-23 02:39:04] <Lucifer_arma_> On the subject of sensitivity, I recently had a coworker make a "joke" about me putting a hex on him.  It was clearly a joke based on a stereotype, and I was rightfully offended.  Satanists don't practice magik or hexes or anything ike that.
[2024-05-23 02:39:05] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| On the subject of sensitivity, I recently had a coworker make a "joke" about me putting a hex on him.  It was clearly a joke based on a stereotype, and I was rightfully offended.  Satanists don't practice magik or hexes or anything ike that.
[2024-05-23 02:39:32] <Lucifer_arma_> He thought I was being oversensitive, I didn't want to be discriminated against.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
[2024-05-23 02:39:33] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| He thought I was being oversensitive, I didn't want to be discriminated against.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
[2024-05-23 02:41:07] <Lucifer_arma_> And yeah, you can argue that I chose to be a satanist as a statement against christians, explicitly wanting to offend them, and all that.  You can make that argument.  Can you argue that that gives people the right to discriminate against me?
[2024-05-23 02:41:07] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| And yeah, you can argue that I chose to be a satanist as a statement against christians, explicitly wanting to offend them, and all that.  You can make that argument.  Can you argue that that gives people the right to discriminate against me?
[2024-05-23 02:48:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| From the writings of levay some do practice forms of magic
[2024-05-23 02:48:14] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| From the writings of levay some do practice forms of magic
[2024-05-23 02:48:26] <Lucifer_arma_> I realize that in the past I've argued that I'm not a satanist, and fought everyone who had a problem with my name, and I've mostly argued that I'm an atheist and they can fuck off.  The truth, where the rubber meets the road, is that I became a satanist when I was 18/19, and I've never really stopped
[2024-05-23 02:48:27] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I realize that in the past I've argued that I'm not a satanist, and fought everyone who had a problem with my name, and I've mostly argued that I'm an atheist and they can fuck off.  The truth, where the rubber meets the road, is that I became a satanist when I was 18/19, and I've never really stopped
[2024-05-23 02:48:42] <Lucifer_arma_> I'm leaning in now, I'm an ordained minister and a satanist
[2024-05-23 02:48:43] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I'm leaning in now, I'm an ordained minister and a satanist
[2024-05-23 02:49:15] <Lucifer_arma_> Yes, Anton Szander LaVey published a book which includes some ceremonial magic.  I've actually gone through those rituals.
[2024-05-23 02:49:16] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Yes, Anton Szander LaVey published a book which includes some ceremonial magic.  I've actually gone through those rituals.
[2024-05-23 02:49:32] <Lucifer_arma_> It was really difficult in 1993 to find a black candle
[2024-05-23 02:49:32] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| It was really difficult in 1993 to find a black candle
[2024-05-23 02:50:14] <Lucifer_arma_> I still own a copy of the Satanic Bible.  It's basically Ayn Rand rendered in a spiritual form, and even Anton LaVey walked away from it in later years
[2024-05-23 02:50:14] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I still own a copy of the Satanic Bible.  It's basically Ayn Rand rendered in a spiritual form, and even Anton LaVey walked away from it in later years
[2024-05-23 02:51:10] <Lucifer_arma_> no, fuck that.  I'm a socialist.  I'm not a libertarian.  I think it's wrong to let a house burn because the person who lives in it can't afford to pay the firemen to put out the fire
[2024-05-23 02:51:10] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| no, fuck that.  I'm a socialist.  I'm not a libertarian.  I think it's wrong to let a house burn because the person who lives in it can't afford to pay the firemen to put out the fire
[2024-05-23 02:52:16] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I can't say I agree with all of a Lavey ideas but I will say that in many aspects he made more sense than my Christian preachers
[2024-05-23 02:52:16] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| I can't say I agree with all of a Lavey ideas but I will say that in many aspects he made more sense than my Christian preachers
[2024-05-23 02:52:23] <Lucifer_arma_> ANd here's the kicker: LaVey was a con artist.  He conned people and then walked away from it
[2024-05-23 02:52:23] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| ANd here's the kicker: LaVey was a con artist.  He conned people and then walked away from it
[2024-05-23 02:52:50] <Lucifer_arma_> I love telling people how the satanic bible explicitly forbids sexual assault, and the christian bible doesn't
[2024-05-23 02:52:50] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I love telling people how the satanic bible explicitly forbids sexual assault, and the christian bible doesn't
[2024-05-23 02:53:27] <Lucifer_arma_> The reasoning is sound, too.  You can't infringe on someone else's right to choose who they have sex with.  It's sound reasoning.
[2024-05-23 02:53:27] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| The reasoning is sound, too.  You can't infringe on someone else's right to choose who they have sex with.  It's sound reasoning.
[2024-05-23 02:53:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I like it. I’ve been doing some reading on Gnosticism and the forgotten gospels in my writing journeys. Lots of knowledge and insight that has been unfortunately swatted away by the hand of monotheism and YHWH.
[2024-05-23 02:53:36] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I like it. I’ve been doing some reading on Gnosticism and the forgotten gospels in my writing journeys. Lots of knowledge and insight that has been unfortunately swatted away by the hand of monotheism and YHWH.
[2024-05-23 02:53:53] <Lucifer_arma_> But the christian bible is all "Pay her dad a couple of goats and marry her and you're fine"
[2024-05-23 02:53:54] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| But the christian bible is all "Pay her dad a couple of goats and marry her and you're fine"
[2024-05-23 02:54:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I long for a world that retraces its ideological roots towards the source. Suffering and schism go hand in hand.
[2024-05-23 02:54:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I long for a world that retraces its ideological roots towards the source. Suffering and schism go hand in hand.
[2024-05-23 02:54:55] <Lucifer_arma_> Yahweh can suck it.  Part of being a satanist is recognizing that yahweh is the enemy.  In the extremely unlikely event that it turns out that God and Satan are real people, God is the enemy.
[2024-05-23 02:54:55] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Yahweh can suck it.  Part of being a satanist is recognizing that yahweh is the enemy.  In the extremely unlikely event that it turns out that God and Satan are real people, God is the enemy.
[2024-05-23 02:55:04] <Lucifer_arma_> THAT is the heart of satanism.
[2024-05-23 02:55:05] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| THAT is the heart of satanism.
[2024-05-23 02:55:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Gnosticism posits something similar that YHWH as a materialistic god is something of a malevolent demiurge
[2024-05-23 02:55:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Gnosticism posits something similar that YHWH as a materialistic god is something of a malevolent demiurge
[2024-05-23 02:56:10] <Lucifer_arma_> Gnosticism is fucking awesome.  Dig deeper, because satan is the god of gnostics (I'm exaggerating a bit here)
[2024-05-23 02:56:11] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Gnosticism is fucking awesome.  Dig deeper, because satan is the god of gnostics (I'm exaggerating a bit here)
[2024-05-23 02:56:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Whereby one can achieve some form of enlightenment through understanding that we exist in his prison as long as we allow that kind of power and influence over our lives
[2024-05-23 02:56:21] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Whereby one can achieve some form of enlightenment through understanding that we exist in his prison as long as we allow that kind of power and influence over our lives
[2024-05-23 02:56:47] <Lucifer_arma_> there's a whole pantheon there which is fucking wild, and awesome, and hates Jesus, and I love anything that hates Jesus (again, exaggeration)
[2024-05-23 02:56:47] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| there's a whole pantheon there which is fucking wild, and awesome, and hates Jesus, and I love anything that hates Jesus (again, exaggeration)
[2024-05-23 02:57:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I’m not really a hateful person generally. I don’t enjoy what Jesus’ influence has become, but subjectively speaking I read some of his talks and find myself thinking “yeah makes sense”
[2024-05-23 02:57:34] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I’m not really a hateful person generally. I don’t enjoy what Jesus’ influence has become, but subjectively speaking I read some of his talks and find myself thinking “yeah makes sense”
[2024-05-23 02:57:56] <Lucifer_arma_> Have you read Roger Zelazny's the Chronicles of Amber?
[2024-05-23 02:57:56] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Have you read Roger Zelazny's the Chronicles of Amber?
[2024-05-23 02:58:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I think as entropy increases and cultures develop it becomes increasingly important to identify what works for you and adopt that but not to adopt the entire source and become wrapped up in it. This is where I believe modern abrahamic religions fail. They have become drunk on their own success.
[2024-05-23 02:58:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I think as entropy increases and cultures develop it becomes increasingly important to identify what works for you and adopt that but not to adopt the entire source and become wrapped up in it. This is where I believe modern abrahamic religions fail. They have become drunk on their own success.
[2024-05-23 02:58:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I haven’t, would you recommend it?
[2024-05-23 02:58:48] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I haven’t, would you recommend it?
[2024-05-23 02:58:51] <Lucifer_arma_> If not, you should.  It's gnosticism in a nutshell.  You have to read both cycles, the Corwin and Merlin cycles.
[2024-05-23 02:58:51] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| If not, you should.  It's gnosticism in a nutshell.  You have to read both cycles, the Corwin and Merlin cycles.
[2024-05-23 02:59:07] <Lucifer_arma_> I highly recommend that series, so does Adam Savage from Mythbusters
[2024-05-23 02:59:07] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I highly recommend that series, so does Adam Savage from Mythbusters
[2024-05-23 02:59:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Love a good recommendation. Thank you 🙏
[2024-05-23 02:59:08] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Love a good recommendation. Thank you 🙏
[2024-05-23 03:00:21] <Lucifer_arma_> One of the things I love about satanism is that there's no dogma.  I don't have to give a shit about the satanic bible.  I can get spiritual guidance from Douglas Adams, Red Dwarf, Star Trek, anything that works for me
[2024-05-23 03:00:21] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| One of the things I love about satanism is that there's no dogma.  I don't have to give a shit about the satanic bible.  I can get spiritual guidance from Douglas Adams, Red Dwarf, Star Trek, anything that works for me
[2024-05-23 03:00:58] <Lucifer_arma_> and I don't have to revere these texts as things over which I'm willing to murder people, because they're just texts.  THey're fiction.
[2024-05-23 03:00:58] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| and I don't have to revere these texts as things over which I'm willing to murder people, because they're just texts.  THey're fiction.
[2024-05-23 03:02:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| It's difficult to proliferate an understanding or framework of looking at the world that doesn't leverage some of the more insidious parts of human nature
[2024-05-23 03:02:02] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| It's difficult to proliferate an understanding or framework of looking at the world that doesn't leverage some of the more insidious parts of human nature
[2024-05-23 03:02:15] <Lucifer_arma_> I can get spiritual guidance from random people I meet, which includes homeless people (which I'm about to be) and black people, and whoever.  I can take what I need from whoever offers it.  NO dogma.
[2024-05-23 03:02:15] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I can get spiritual guidance from random people I meet, which includes homeless people (which I'm about to be) and black people, and whoever.  I can take what I need from whoever offers it.  NO dogma.
[2024-05-23 03:02:47] <Lucifer_arma_> It's not hard to understand that kindness is the way forward.  It's not hard.
[2024-05-23 03:02:47] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| It's not hard to understand that kindness is the way forward.  It's not hard.
[2024-05-23 03:02:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Subjugation and fear are powerful drivers, especially for those that are simply looking for meaning in any form and thus become spiritually thirsty
[2024-05-23 03:02:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Subjugation and fear are powerful drivers, especially for those that are simply looking for meaning in any form and thus become spiritually thirsty
[2024-05-23 03:03:29] <Lucifer_arma_> True, but kindness has more benefits.  YOu get more from being kind than you do from being cruel
[2024-05-23 03:03:29] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| True, but kindness has more benefits.  YOu get more from being kind than you do from being cruel
[2024-05-23 03:03:48] <Lucifer_arma_> Cruelty gives immediate satisfaction, kindness gives long term satisfaction
[2024-05-23 03:03:49] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Cruelty gives immediate satisfaction, kindness gives long term satisfaction
[2024-05-23 03:04:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Personally, absolutely. It lacks the virality though.
[2024-05-23 03:04:00] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Personally, absolutely. It lacks the virality though.
[2024-05-23 03:04:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| At least thats how i'm beginning to rationalise the decline of these more esoterical concepts as opposed to abrahamic religions in the modern day
[2024-05-23 03:04:25] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| At least thats how i'm beginning to rationalise the decline of these more esoterical concepts as opposed to abrahamic religions in the modern day
[2024-05-23 03:04:38] <Lucifer_arma_> You're right about that.  We want to see people put in their place, and that always goes viral.
[2024-05-23 03:04:38] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| You're right about that.  We want to see people put in their place, and that always goes viral.
[2024-05-23 03:05:26] <Lucifer_arma_> But kindness always wins.  THat's why Jesus said to turn the other cheek.  He's not a complete smeghead, he's a smeghead because he's aligned with a cruel god.
[2024-05-23 03:05:26] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| But kindness always wins.  THat's why Jesus said to turn the other cheek.  He's not a complete smeghead, he's a smeghead because he's aligned with a cruel god.
[2024-05-23 03:05:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| The more I consume the more I have a recurring thought like "hey this makes sense why isn't this taught more" and it's something of a self closing loop.
[2024-05-23 03:05:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| The more I consume the more I have a recurring thought like "hey this makes sense why isn't this taught more" and it's something of a self closing loop.
[2024-05-23 03:05:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Have you read the gospel of Judas?
[2024-05-23 03:05:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Have you read the gospel of Judas?
[2024-05-23 03:05:59] <Lucifer_arma_> I say that being recently divorced from a woman who practiced cruelty, and I practiced kindness, and divorce was the only option.
[2024-05-23 03:05:59] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I say that being recently divorced from a woman who practiced cruelty, and I practiced kindness, and divorce was the only option.
[2024-05-23 03:06:55] <Lucifer_arma_> no.  If it's not in the KJV, I haven't read it.  I've read discussions of it, which suggest that Judas was a friend who "betrayed" Jesus because Jesus asked him to, but i haven't read it directly.
[2024-05-23 03:06:56] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| no.  If it's not in the KJV, I haven't read it.  I've read discussions of it, which suggest that Judas was a friend who "betrayed" Jesus because Jesus asked him to, but i haven't read it directly.
[2024-05-23 03:07:38] <Lucifer_arma_> Iron Maiden has explored the subject, and I love Iron Maiden, so there's that
[2024-05-23 03:07:38] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Iron Maiden has explored the subject, and I love Iron Maiden, so there's that
[2024-05-23 03:07:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Jesus was one of the OGs to privately describe the materialistic god as a malevolant force. Fascinating stuff
[2024-05-23 03:07:39] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Jesus was one of the OGs to privately describe the materialistic god as a malevolant force. Fascinating stuff
[2024-05-23 03:08:03] <Lucifer_arma_> yeah, in gnostic literature, what little of it has survived, yahweh is a villain
[2024-05-23 03:08:04] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| yeah, in gnostic literature, what little of it has survived, yahweh is a villain
[2024-05-23 03:08:33] <Lucifer_arma_> and jesus wasn't his reincarnation, he was an enemy to yahweh
[2024-05-23 03:08:33] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| and jesus wasn't his reincarnation, he was an enemy to yahweh
[2024-05-23 03:08:37] <Lucifer_arma_> I love gnostic thought
[2024-05-23 03:08:37] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I love gnostic thought
[2024-05-23 03:09:28] <Lucifer_arma_> but it's all still fiction, and it's just as important as knowing that the answer to the ultimate quesiton of life, the universe, and everything can't exist in the same universe where the question of what that is exists
[2024-05-23 03:09:28] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| but it's all still fiction, and it's just as important as knowing that the answer to the ultimate quesiton of life, the universe, and everything can't exist in the same universe where the question of what that is exists
[2024-05-23 03:09:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Yeah that's essentially the gist of it. That Judas was the one true disciple that through this more personal private understanding was able to take this task that forever would be viewed as some devilish act.
[2024-05-23 03:09:50] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Yeah that's essentially the gist of it. That Judas was the one true disciple that through this more personal private understanding was able to take this task that forever would be viewed as some devilish act.
[2024-05-23 03:09:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Fiction is something of a mystery to me
[2024-05-23 03:09:59] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Fiction is something of a mystery to me
[2024-05-23 03:10:02] <Lucifer_arma_> you get more spiritual guidance watching captain picard or Sisko
[2024-05-23 03:10:02] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| you get more spiritual guidance watching captain picard or Sisko
[2024-05-23 03:10:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| If it's been imagined, it is true
[2024-05-23 03:10:13] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| If it's been imagined, it is true
[2024-05-23 03:10:40] <Lucifer_arma_> Heinlein took that view when he tied all fictional universes together in the Number of the Beast
[2024-05-23 03:10:40] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Heinlein took that view when he tied all fictional universes together in the Number of the Beast
[2024-05-23 03:11:11] <Lucifer_arma_> that one book means the Lord of the Rings exists in the same universe as the Expanse
[2024-05-23 03:11:11] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| that one book means the Lord of the Rings exists in the same universe as the Expanse
[2024-05-23 03:11:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Through the evolution of language and reason and the chaotic nature of reality it's fairly impossible to identify real events in our space/time ribbon.
[2024-05-23 03:11:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Through the evolution of language and reason and the chaotic nature of reality it's fairly impossible to identify real events in our space/time ribbon.
[2024-05-23 03:12:07] <Lucifer_arma_> no, we have archeology, and paleontology, and various other means of determining what's true and what's not true
[2024-05-23 03:12:07] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| no, we have archeology, and paleontology, and various other means of determining what's true and what's not true
[2024-05-23 03:12:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| But those are up to subjective observation and through labelling in dynamic encoding mechanisms
[2024-05-23 03:12:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| But those are up to subjective observation and through labelling in dynamic encoding mechanisms
[2024-05-23 03:12:51] <Lucifer_arma_> we dont' have to trust authors from years ago, hundreds or thousands, we have the ability to study what they were looking at when they wrote whatever and determine for ourselves what actually happened
[2024-05-23 03:12:51] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| we dont' have to trust authors from years ago, hundreds or thousands, we have the ability to study what they were looking at when they wrote whatever and determine for ourselves what actually happened
[2024-05-23 03:13:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| How many archaeological discoveries are fiercely debated toda. Graham Hancock is perhaps insane but he gives interesting food for thought
[2024-05-23 03:13:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| How many archaeological discoveries are fiercely debated toda. Graham Hancock is perhaps insane but he gives interesting food for thought
[2024-05-23 03:13:27] <Lucifer_arma_> no, it's not subjective.  Maybe the initial study is subjective, but after it goes through the process, it becomes objective
[2024-05-23 03:13:27] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| no, it's not subjective.  Maybe the initial study is subjective, but after it goes through the process, it becomes objective
[2024-05-23 03:13:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I long for this objective record, deeply.
[2024-05-23 03:13:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I long for this objective record, deeply.
[2024-05-23 03:13:51] <Lucifer_arma_> Graham Hancock is a quack.  He makes up shit to suit his agenda
[2024-05-23 03:13:52] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Graham Hancock is a quack.  He makes up shit to suit his agenda
[2024-05-23 03:14:20] <Lucifer_arma_> it's pretty transparent, too.  Look for the agenda, and then you'll see how he shapes the facts to suit it.
[2024-05-23 03:14:20] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| it's pretty transparent, too.  Look for the agenda, and then you'll see how he shapes the facts to suit it.
[2024-05-23 03:14:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Likely, my point is that we are able to discover echoes and ripples that have come from a source, but we are unable to reverse the arrow of time to actually reform and understand that source
[2024-05-23 03:14:44] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Likely, my point is that we are able to discover echoes and ripples that have come from a source, but we are unable to reverse the arrow of time to actually reform and understand that source
[2024-05-23 03:14:46] <Lucifer_arma_> real scientists don't work that way.  They study the facts and generate theories from them.
[2024-05-23 03:14:47] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| real scientists don't work that way.  They study the facts and generate theories from them.
[2024-05-23 03:15:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| It's important to understand this view otherwise we risk casting those who don't follow our beliefs out forever. This way one can empathise with the flat earthers and the (insert concept here) deniers.
[2024-05-23 03:15:22] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| It's important to understand this view otherwise we risk casting those who don't follow our beliefs out forever. This way one can empathise with the flat earthers and the (insert concept here) deniers.
[2024-05-23 03:15:34] <Lucifer_arma_> there are limits to what we can know.  That's true.  but that doesn't mean we can fill in the blanks with made up shit
[2024-05-23 03:15:34] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| there are limits to what we can know.  That's true.  but that doesn't mean we can fill in the blanks with made up shit
[2024-05-23 03:16:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| We shouldn't, true. But it's entirely human to do so
[2024-05-23 03:16:23] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| We shouldn't, true. But it's entirely human to do so
[2024-05-23 03:16:43] <Lucifer_arma_> we dont' have to give a shti about flat earthers.  THey have members all around the globe.  You can also demonstrate that they're wrong pretty easily, they're holding to a political agenda, and we can oppose that
[2024-05-23 03:16:43] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| we dont' have to give a shti about flat earthers.  THey have members all around the globe.  You can also demonstrate that they're wrong pretty easily, they're holding to a political agenda, and we can oppose that
[2024-05-23 03:17:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| But through their lack of understanding they give us ground to further enhance our own understanding
[2024-05-23 03:17:10] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| But through their lack of understanding they give us ground to further enhance our own understanding
[2024-05-23 03:17:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| If we ignore them and say "yes but we know it's not", are we not fooling ourselves into some ownership of knowledge? Is there not always more evidence that can be uncovered to strengthen our case?
[2024-05-23 03:17:43] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| If we ignore them and say "yes but we know it's not", are we not fooling ourselves into some ownership of knowledge? Is there not always more evidence that can be uncovered to strengthen our case?
[2024-05-23 03:17:49] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| https://tenor.com/view/flat-earth-iron-man-gif-4827993676679154993
[2024-05-23 03:17:49] <armagetron-bridge_> 07discord:Nanu| https://tenor.com/view/flat-earth-iron-man-gif-4827993676679154993
[2024-05-23 03:17:51] <Lucifer_arma_> that's true.  I've learned a lot recently by watching videos responding to flat earthers or moon landing deniers or whoever.  I've definitely learned from that
[2024-05-23 03:17:51] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| that's true.  I've learned a lot recently by watching videos responding to flat earthers or moon landing deniers or whoever.  I've definitely learned from that
[2024-05-23 03:18:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| It's something similar to the topic in here yesterday about distasteful advertising methods
[2024-05-23 03:18:38] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| It's something similar to the topic in here yesterday about distasteful advertising methods
[2024-05-23 03:19:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Their ignorance shines the light, for we have forsaken our own through our own journeys
[2024-05-23 03:19:11] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Their ignorance shines the light, for we have forsaken our own through our own journeys
[2024-05-23 03:20:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I miss ignorance, personally. Discovery is something of the purest wonder
[2024-05-23 03:20:01] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| I miss ignorance, personally. Discovery is something of the purest wonder
[2024-05-23 03:20:09] <Lucifer_arma_> the idea of flat testicles is amusing me right now
[2024-05-23 03:20:09] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| the idea of flat testicles is amusing me right now
[2024-05-23 03:20:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| lmao
[2024-05-23 03:20:27] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| lmao
[2024-05-23 03:20:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| That's a good note to get back to my work. The sumo league awaits!
[2024-05-23 03:20:51] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| That's a good note to get back to my work. The sumo league awaits!
[2024-05-23 03:21:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| You should get back on the grid sometime Lucifer. We are going through something of a resurgence
[2024-05-23 03:21:09] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| You should get back on the grid sometime Lucifer. We are going through something of a resurgence
[2024-05-23 03:21:25] <Lucifer_arma_> just remember, satanism is about what's real, and does NOT dictate what's real
[2024-05-23 03:21:25] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| just remember, satanism is about what's real, and does NOT dictate what's real
[2024-05-23 03:21:53] <Lucifer_arma_> man, I'm getting evicted and moving into my van, I'm not even thinking about the grid right now
[2024-05-23 03:21:54] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| man, I'm getting evicted and moving into my van, I'm not even thinking about the grid right now
[2024-05-23 03:22:25] <Lucifer_arma_> I got the order to vacate in 24 hours today, so tomorrow when I'm here, I'll be in my van in some random parking lot somewhere near my work
[2024-05-23 03:22:25] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I got the order to vacate in 24 hours today, so tomorrow when I'm here, I'll be in my van in some random parking lot somewhere near my work
[2024-05-23 03:22:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Everyone needs an escape. But I understand, thank you for the conversation, one of the more interesting ones I've had recently
[2024-05-23 03:22:33] <armagetron-bridge_> 06discord:Syn| Everyone needs an escape. But I understand, thank you for the conversation, one of the more interesting ones I've had recently
[2024-05-23 03:23:24] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You can lead a horse to water but you can't force them to drink
[2024-05-23 03:23:24] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| You can lead a horse to water but you can't force them to drink
[2024-05-23 03:23:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Did someone doesn't ask my opinion or knowledge I don't bother forcing it on them
[2024-05-23 03:23:37] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Did someone doesn't ask my opinion or knowledge I don't bother forcing it on them
[2024-05-23 03:23:57] <Lucifer_arma_> I'll be back at some point, but right now, I have to pack up the things I need in my van immediately tomorrow, because I have a limited window to do it
[2024-05-23 03:23:57] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I'll be back at some point, but right now, I have to pack up the things I need in my van immediately tomorrow, because I have a limited window to do it
[2024-05-23 03:24:55] <Lucifer_arma_> SIde point: expressing your views isn't forcing them on someone else.  
[2024-05-23 03:24:56] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| SIde point: expressing your views isn't forcing them on someone else.
[2024-05-23 03:27:26] <Lucifer_arma_> I actually have lots of conversations with people because I wear a ring with the sign of baphomet on it, and people are curious.  I haven't encountered anyone in person who objects to it, which is different than what I've encountered here, where every few years, some asshole comes along and says I'm evil because of my name
[2024-05-23 03:27:26] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I actually have lots of conversations with people because I wear a ring with the sign of baphomet on it, and people are curious.  I haven't encountered anyone in person who objects to it, which is different than what I've encountered here, where every few years, some asshole comes along and says I'm evil because of my name
[2024-05-23 03:27:49] <Lucifer_arma_> just go search the forums, it's there, but it was more in servers, which are not searchable.
[2024-05-23 03:27:50] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| just go search the forums, it's there, but it was more in servers, which are not searchable.
[2024-05-23 03:27:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Totally valid. I may offer my opinion openly from time to time but if someone doesn't agree then that's all them
[2024-05-23 03:27:58] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| Totally valid. I may offer my opinion openly from time to time but if someone doesn't agree then that's all them
[2024-05-23 03:29:15] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| My dog's name are Lucifer and Lilith Lucy and Lily for short lol
[2024-05-23 03:29:15] <armagetron-bridge_> 02discord:niveK.POT| My dog's name are Lucifer and Lilith Lucy and Lily for short lol
[2024-05-23 03:29:48] <Lucifer_arma_> People have called me Luci for years as a nickname.  I love it.  I love that your dogs are Lucifer and Lilith.
[2024-05-23 03:29:49] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| People have called me Luci for years as a nickname.  I love it.  I love that your dogs are Lucifer and Lilith.
[2024-05-23 03:30:49] <Lucifer_arma_> My ex wife loved me being called LUci, too, because her mom's name was Lucy.  Her mom also held up the football and yanked it away.  She was abusive.
[2024-05-23 03:30:49] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| My ex wife loved me being called LUci, too, because her mom's name was Lucy.  Her mom also held up the football and yanked it away.  She was abusive.
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[2024-05-25 01:10:36] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @syn_acc it might not be clear enough that login is required
[2024-05-25 01:10:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @syn_acc it might not be clear enough that login is required
[2024-05-25 04:31:02] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| xddd
[2024-05-25 04:31:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| xddd
[2024-05-25 08:39:07] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| is that a meme
[2024-05-25 08:39:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| is that a meme
[2024-05-25 08:39:22] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| every round that you're not logged in there's a center message saying you need to login
[2024-05-25 08:39:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| every round that you're not logged in there's a center message saying you need to login
[2024-05-25 08:39:29] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i can add a console message i guess
[2024-05-25 08:39:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i can add a console message i guess
[2024-05-25 12:08:18] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:vllis| id just have it so it prints when you first join the server
[2024-05-25 12:08:18] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:vllis| id just have it so it prints when you first join the server
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[2024-05-25 15:35:56] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You should just be clear that you won't accumulate points if you aren't logging in
[2024-05-25 15:35:57] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You should just be clear that you won't accumulate points if you aren't logging in
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[2024-05-26 00:06:27] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| sorry to bug with some offtopic but, what do i do if i end up on the street with nothing? parents threatened to ditch me if i start hrt
[2024-05-26 00:06:27] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| sorry to bug with some offtopic but, what do i do if i end up on the street with nothing? parents threatened to ditch me if i start hrt
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[2024-05-26 11:16:58] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| H r t?
[2024-05-26 11:16:58] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| H r t?
[2024-05-26 11:26:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| high rubber tourney
[2024-05-26 11:26:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| high rubber tourney
[2024-05-26 11:26:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| speaking of tourneys
[2024-05-26 11:26:22] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| speaking of tourneys
[2024-05-26 11:26:27] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i heard theres a WST brewing
[2024-05-26 11:26:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i heard theres a WST brewing
[2024-05-26 11:52:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Get some bushcraft skills. You'll need to fall back on those if you really have nowhere else to go. Being able to make a fire and a shelter will go a long way to keeping you alive. To that end, buy or make a tarpaulin. A king size sheet will serve as a base if you need to make one - then use some parrafin candles and mineral oil in a ratio of 500ml of oil to 1kg of wax. Embed the <clipped message>
[2024-05-26 11:52:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Get some bushcraft skills. You'll need to fall back on those if you really have nowhere else to go. Being able to make a fire and a shelter will go a long way to keeping you alive. To that end, buy or make a tarpaulin. A king size sheet will serve as a base if you need to make one - then use some parrafin candles and mineral oil in a ratio of 500ml of oil to 1kg of wax. Embed the <clipped message>
[2024-05-26 11:52:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent|  wax mixture into the sheet with an iron. A tarpaulin will keep you dry, and keep the dust out.
[2024-05-26 11:52:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent|  wax mixture into the sheet with an iron. A tarpaulin will keep you dry, and keep the dust out.
[2024-05-26 11:52:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Keep a bugout pack handy. Soap, towels, clothes, water containers. A little cash if you can. 
[2024-05-26 11:52:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Keep a bugout pack handy. Soap, towels, clothes, water containers. A little cash if you can. 
[2024-05-26 11:52:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Look into places that provide support networks. There's one or two in south america, but you may have to travel. They may help you find a place to live if necessary. I've heard of, for example, Casa Nem in Rio.
[2024-05-26 11:52:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Look into places that provide support networks. There's one or two in south america, but you may have to travel. They may help you find a place to live if necessary. I've heard of, for example, Casa Nem in Rio.
[2024-05-26 11:52:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The unpleasant option is to delay hrt whilst you build up a savings fund, and then skip out when you start under the guise of simply leaving home. Depending on how long htis takes, it may be preferable. 
[2024-05-26 11:52:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The unpleasant option is to delay hrt whilst you build up a savings fund, and then skip out when you start under the guise of simply leaving home. Depending on how long htis takes, it may be preferable. 
[2024-05-26 11:52:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| More after this tst
[2024-05-26 11:52:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| More after this tst
[2024-05-26 12:12:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| If in the US you should immediately contact the Department of Human Services and set up a case. A caseworker can help you navigate housing insecurity and get you things like medical help and food assistance, and in some cases, financial assistance. I would do this immediately and not wait until you are homeless. Just the threat of housing insecurity can ruin a person's ability to <clipped message>
[2024-05-26 12:12:00] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| If in the US you should immediately contact the Department of Human Services and set up a case. A caseworker can help you navigate housing insecurity and get you things like medical help and food assistance, and in some cases, financial assistance. I would do this immediately and not wait until you are homeless. Just the threat of housing insecurity can ruin a person's ability to <clipped message>
[2024-05-26 12:12:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav|  function well in society.
[2024-05-26 12:12:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav|  function well in society.
[2024-05-26 12:13:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Sometimes your treatment provider will also have a lengthy list of resources that can provide a number of services. You have some IT and development skills, so you have a foundation on which to be self sufficient provided you have that initial support. Worth looking into.
[2024-05-26 12:13:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Sometimes your treatment provider will also have a lengthy list of resources that can provide a number of services. You have some IT and development skills, so you have a foundation on which to be self sufficient provided you have that initial support. Worth looking into.
[2024-05-26 12:15:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Yes, everything delinquent said. You should immediately as medical professionals and the state for help. At the very least this creates a paper trail that might be important in a legal battle.
[2024-05-26 12:15:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| Yes, everything delinquent said. You should immediately as medical professionals and the state for help. At the very least this creates a paper trail that might be important in a legal battle.
[2024-05-26 13:43:39] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| argentina here through
[2024-05-26 13:43:39] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| argentina here through
[2024-05-26 14:57:06] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| do you have any friends or any family youd be safe to live with for any ammount of time?
[2024-05-26 14:57:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| do you have any friends or any family youd be safe to live with for any ammount of time?
[2024-05-26 14:59:18] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| im not familiar with argentinian law or resources so im not sure if you are able to get any sort of help with it, if there are any local queer scenes maybe get involved there and try to find temporary / permanent shelter
[2024-05-26 14:59:18] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| im not familiar with argentinian law or resources so im not sure if you are able to get any sort of help with it, if there are any local queer scenes maybe get involved there and try to find temporary / permanent shelter
[2024-05-26 15:03:32] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| i wish i could be more help but im more familiar with the US and europe when it comes to getting people any kind of housing
[2024-05-26 15:03:32] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| i wish i could be more help but im more familiar with the US and europe when it comes to getting people any kind of housing
[2024-05-26 15:03:52] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| i hope everything ends up working out
[2024-05-26 15:03:52] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| i hope everything ends up working out
[2024-05-26 15:05:48] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| if you want to start HRT now though, you can do some moderate things to hide it
[2024-05-26 15:05:48] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| if you want to start HRT now though, you can do some moderate things to hide it
[2024-05-26 15:06:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| if youre starting estrogen your voice wont get higher and you will mainly have to deal with the physical changes instead
[2024-05-26 15:06:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| if youre starting estrogen your voice wont get higher and you will mainly have to deal with the physical changes instead
[2024-05-26 15:06:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| its harder to hide test as it deepens your voice
[2024-05-26 15:06:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| its harder to hide test as it deepens your voice
[2024-05-26 15:07:01] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| best idea if you are fully intent on starting ASAP is to just wear bigger clothing, use lower doses for the time being
[2024-05-26 15:07:02] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| best idea if you are fully intent on starting ASAP is to just wear bigger clothing, use lower doses for the time being
[2024-05-26 15:08:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| also make sure to get your labs done
[2024-05-26 15:08:09] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:mdmamutt| also make sure to get your labs done
[2024-05-26 15:38:00] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| no
[2024-05-26 15:38:00] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| no
[2024-05-26 15:38:37] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| i know
[2024-05-26 15:38:37] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| i know
[2024-05-26 15:39:12] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:juesto| well, yeah i guess, at least by law, the gaht is free
[2024-05-26 15:39:12] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:juesto| well, yeah i guess, at least by law, the gaht is free
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[2024-05-26 23:37:02] <Lucifer_arma_> well, I'm in the van now.  I actually stayed in a hotel for a couple of days while getting more work done on the van (specifically, getting the ac running), which is why I've been out of contact.
[2024-05-26 23:37:03] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| well, I'm in the van now.  I actually stayed in a hotel for a couple of days while getting more work done on the van (specifically, getting the ac running), which is why I've been out of contact.
[2024-05-26 23:37:35] <Lucifer_arma_> I took footage of the "before" on the van, so I'll have something to show, but I want to do some more shooting and then work out an actual script to record and mix the footage over.
[2024-05-26 23:37:35] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I took footage of the "before" on the van, so I'll have something to show, but I want to do some more shooting and then work out an actual script to record and mix the footage over.
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[2024-05-27 05:50:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| eu players:
[2024-05-27 05:50:29] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| eu players:
[2024-05-27 05:50:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| waiting patiently all day for games. nothing pops till at least 4pm. maybe a tst or two in the evening. fort if you stay up till 7am and completely ruin the next day. 
[2024-05-27 05:50:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| waiting patiently all day for games. nothing pops till at least 4pm. maybe a tst or two in the evening. fort if you stay up till 7am and completely ruin the next day. 
[2024-05-27 05:50:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| na players:
[2024-05-27 05:50:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| na players:
[2024-05-27 05:50:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| wake up casually, roll out of bed to a 7/8 tst queue. Games all day. Back to back fort in the evening. 2am, it’s getting late. Same tomorrow?
[2024-05-27 05:50:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| wake up casually, roll out of bed to a 7/8 tst queue. Games all day. Back to back fort in the evening. 2am, it’s getting late. Same tomorrow?
[2024-05-27 05:51:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE
[2024-05-27 05:51:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE
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[2024-05-27 08:48:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We really do need more EU/UK players. That's kinda why pickup started in the first place, only now it's full of sleepy-eyed yanks lmao.
[2024-05-27 08:48:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We really do need more EU/UK players. That's kinda why pickup started in the first place, only now it's full of sleepy-eyed yanks lmao.
[2024-05-27 08:48:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma_ How does the van feel? You get any inspiration from those vandwelling communities? Colour me intrigued
[2024-05-27 08:48:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma_ How does the van feel? You get any inspiration from those vandwelling communities? Colour me intrigued
[2024-05-27 19:17:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| heh
[2024-05-27 19:17:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| heh
[2024-05-27 19:17:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| good old text meme
[2024-05-27 19:17:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| good old text meme
[2024-05-27 19:17:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/1d1t8d3/god_bless_the_uk/l5wx6wh/
[2024-05-27 19:17:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/1d1t8d3/god_bless_the_uk/l5wx6wh/
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[2024-05-27 23:53:17] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| More like wake up casually hurry out of bed disregard all shit needs done lol go to work come home and wait to see if there's gonna be a game lol
[2024-05-27 23:53:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| More like wake up casually hurry out of bed disregard all shit needs done lol go to work come home and wait to see if there's gonna be a game lol

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[2024-05-31 09:28:06] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:chumpass| https://t.me/sexporns_robot
[2024-05-31 09:28:07] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:chumpass| https://t.me/sexporns_robot
[2024-05-31 09:28:07] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:chumpass| @everyone
[2024-05-31 09:28:07] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:chumpass| @everyone
[2024-05-31 09:42:30] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @northernscrub Need a ban hammer over here lol
[2024-05-31 09:42:30] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @northernscrub Need a ban hammer over here lol
[2024-05-31 09:43:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| *thwack*
[2024-05-31 09:43:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| *thwack*
[2024-05-31 09:44:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| sorry lucifer_arma I can't do anything about the irc side
[2024-05-31 09:44:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| sorry lucifer_arma I can't do anything about the irc side
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