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[2024-06-01 07:08:43] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| After watching and liking every armagetron video on YT the algorithm finally started suggesting arma videos on its own 👏
[2024-06-01 07:08:44] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| After watching and liking every armagetron video on YT the algorithm finally started suggesting arma videos on its own 👏
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[2024-06-02 18:29:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:boris_div| Excuse me, apologies if this is out of topic but how do I fix my chat feature? Might have broken it by pressing buttons and I want to type but whenever I press 'enter' it willr esult in an instant chat
[2024-06-02 18:29:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:boris_div| Excuse me, apologies if this is out of topic but how do I fix my chat feature? Might have broken it by pressing buttons and I want to type but whenever I press 'enter' it willr esult in an instant chat
[2024-06-02 18:40:38] <armagetron-bridge> 10discord:justkoala| If you go to Player Setup -> Player 1 Setup -> Input Configurations you should be able to select a button for your chat
[2024-06-02 18:40:38] <armagetronbridge> 10discord:justkoala| If you go to Player Setup -> Player 1 Setup -> Input Configurations you should be able to select a button for your chat
[2024-06-02 18:55:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:boris_div| Right the issue has been fixed, thank you
[2024-06-02 18:55:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:boris_div| Right the issue has been fixed, thank you
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[2024-06-03 03:18:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| america is the best place to make money
[2024-06-03 03:18:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| america is the best place to make money
[2024-06-03 03:18:08] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| europe is the best place to spend money
[2024-06-03 03:18:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| europe is the best place to spend money
[2024-06-03 11:38:40] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| that's what my parents always tell me :crash:
[2024-06-03 11:38:40] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| that's what my parents always tell me :crash:
[2024-06-03 12:11:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| im in a land of all spending and no making :sadbumpmusic:
[2024-06-03 12:11:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| im in a land of all spending and no making :sadbumpmusic:
[2024-06-03 12:26:46] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| eu is nice if you are dink or top 10%
[2024-06-03 12:26:47] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| eu is nice if you are dink or top 10%
[2024-06-03 12:27:58] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| or comparatively ok if not, at least you get food and shelter if you're not too unlucky
[2024-06-03 12:27:58] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| or comparatively ok if not, at least you get food and shelter if you're not too unlucky
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[2024-06-04 13:27:01] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| did you like it?
[2024-06-04 13:27:01] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| did you like it?
[2024-06-04 13:27:15] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| (daily driver on arch-based)
[2024-06-04 13:27:15] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:painfulpaladins| (daily driver on arch-based)
[2024-06-04 13:36:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| This was over twenty years ago now. Back then Ubuntu was very different. Much less crap all over the desktop, much simpler. I did like it to an extent, but I was also like, 11 so I had no idea what I was doing. Ended up dual booting and mostly using windows. I've had linux on and off over the years until I finally got rid of my windows partition last year. Distro hopped a bit, lo <clipped message>
[2024-06-04 13:36:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| This was over twenty years ago now. Back then Ubuntu was very different. Much less crap all over the desktop, much simpler. I did like it to an extent, but I was also like, 11 so I had no idea what I was doing. Ended up dual booting and mostly using windows. I've had linux on and off over the years until I finally got rid of my windows partition last year. Distro hopped a bit, lo <clipped message>
[2024-06-04 13:36:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ts of things I really like the look of (seriously, EndeavourOS has some amazing theming), but settled on Debian for the moment. Ideally I'd also lke that to be debian with xfce on top of kwin, but it's not really very stable.
[2024-06-04 13:36:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ts of things I really like the look of (seriously, EndeavourOS has some amazing theming), but settled on Debian for the moment. Ideally I'd also lke that to be debian with xfce on top of kwin, but it's not really very stable.
[2024-06-04 14:48:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://www.synnovis.co.uk/news-and-press/synnovis-cyberattack
[2024-06-04 14:48:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://www.synnovis.co.uk/news-and-press/synnovis-cyberattack
[2024-06-04 14:48:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| This enrages me, the immediate dispersion of responsibility
[2024-06-04 14:48:24] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| This enrages me, the immediate dispersion of responsibility
[2024-06-04 14:48:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| > We take cybersecurity very seriously at Synnovis (…). This is a harsh reminder that this sort of attack can happen to anyone at any time and that, dispiritingly, the individuals behind it have no scruples about who their actions might affect.
[2024-06-04 14:48:26] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| > We take cybersecurity very seriously at Synnovis (…). This is a harsh reminder that this sort of attack can happen to anyone at any time and that, dispiritingly, the individuals behind it have no scruples about who their actions might affect.
[2024-06-04 14:48:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| This cannot happen to anyone at anytime. It happens when investors and executives chase profits at any expense with 0 care or diligence for the creations and their developing insecurities. I guarantee this happened because some system and its dependencies hasn’t been updated since circa 07
[2024-06-04 14:48:27] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| This cannot happen to anyone at anytime. It happens when investors and executives chase profits at any expense with 0 care or diligence for the creations and their developing insecurities. I guarantee this happened because some system and its dependencies hasn’t been updated since circa 07
[2024-06-04 14:48:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| A harsh but necessary reminder that lives are genuinely on the line when it comes to security. “I’m sorry we didn’t click update” is not going to cut it to the patients that had blood transfusions cancelled today.
[2024-06-04 14:48:28] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| A harsh but necessary reminder that lives are genuinely on the line when it comes to security. “I’m sorry we didn’t click update” is not going to cut it to the patients that had blood transfusions cancelled today.
[2024-06-04 14:48:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| My bet is that we get the typical response here where the CTO/CISO resigns as they are forced out by the same board that denied them the resources to fix this at the source.
[2024-06-04 14:48:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| My bet is that we get the typical response here where the CTO/CISO resigns as they are forced out by the same board that denied them the resources to fix this at the source.
[2024-06-04 14:48:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| rant over
[2024-06-04 14:48:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| rant over
[2024-06-04 15:09:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Seven Ps. Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance
[2024-06-04 15:09:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Seven Ps. Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance
[2024-06-04 15:09:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| They obviously weren't conducting internal audits to train staff in recognising ransomware phishers
[2024-06-04 15:09:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| They obviously weren't conducting internal audits to train staff in recognising ransomware phishers
[2024-06-04 15:13:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| In other news, I think I have the rotation script down reliably for CTWF. Server is up and chugging away, and I think I've caught all the maps that are hosted elsewhere. Next up is the old leaderboard, which I have a few different codebases for but will endeavour to rebuild. Hurrah!
[2024-06-04 15:13:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| In other news, I think I have the rotation script down reliably for CTWF. Server is up and chugging away, and I think I've caught all the maps that are hosted elsewhere. Next up is the old leaderboard, which I have a few different codebases for but will endeavour to rebuild. Hurrah!
[2024-06-04 15:14:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @ladydruuna @nate_x9 @nobrain1 @stereo_system ^
[2024-06-04 15:14:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @ladydruuna @nate_x9 @nobrain1 @stereo_system ^
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[2024-06-04 21:50:43] <Lucifer_arma_> well I'm back at work, waiting until someone higher up notices me and kicks me out. I've worked up a contingency plan with a local shop that has no problem with me being there, and when he's finished enough of his current projects, he'll have a space for me to go to.
[2024-06-04 21:50:43] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| well I'm back at work, waiting until someone higher up notices me and kicks me out. I've worked up a contingency plan with a local shop that has no problem with me being there, and when he's finished enough of his current projects, he'll have a space for me to go to.
[2024-06-04 21:50:53] <Lucifer_arma_> so it's a race to see if he gets there before some higher up kicks me out
[2024-06-04 21:50:54] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| so it's a race to see if he gets there before some higher up kicks me out
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[2024-06-05 00:38:18] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| You okay Luci? I'm out of the loop on what's going on x.x
[2024-06-05 00:38:18] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| You okay Luci? I'm out of the loop on what's going on x.x
[2024-06-05 00:48:23] <Lucifer_arma> I'm fine. Just moved into my van. So my internet is "spotty", meaning my laptop is no longer always connected because it has to use my phone, which I have to take with me
[2024-06-05 00:48:23] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm fine. Just moved into my van. So my internet is "spotty", meaning my laptop is no longer always connected because it has to use my phone, which I have to take with me
[2024-06-05 00:48:50] <Lucifer_arma> I'm rendering my first youtube video since moving into the van, and it's not about the van. :) Still shooting that one, but I have most of it shot now. I have one more segment to shoot, and then I can put it together
[2024-06-05 00:48:50] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm rendering my first youtube video since moving into the van, and it's not about the van. :) Still shooting that one, but I have most of it shot now. I have one more segment to shoot, and then I can put it together
[2024-06-05 00:49:22] <Lucifer_arma> I also need to reshoot the endcap, now that I'm not in that apartment anymore, and I'll reshoot it for the van video. The Starliner video is still getting the old endcap, even though it was shot in a new location with some new gear
[2024-06-05 00:49:22] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I also need to reshoot the endcap, now that I'm not in that apartment anymore, and I'll reshoot it for the van video. The Starliner video is still getting the old endcap, even though it was shot in a new location with some new gear
[2024-06-05 00:49:41] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Youre living in a van? 😦
[2024-06-05 00:49:41] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Youre living in a van? 😦
[2024-06-05 00:49:56] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, got evicted. That's what's been happening the last, uh, 3-4 months
[2024-06-05 00:49:57] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| yeah, got evicted. That's what's been happening the last, uh, 3-4 months
[2024-06-05 00:50:07] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| fuck.
[2024-06-05 00:50:07] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| fuck.
[2024-06-05 00:50:18] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Do you have something lined up? This isn't a long-term thing, is it?
[2024-06-05 00:50:18] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Do you have something lined up? This isn't a long-term thing, is it?
[2024-06-05 00:50:33] <Lucifer_arma> it's fine, it's kinda where I want to be. Now I just need to fix it up a bit more, and then line up some sort of income that I can work anywhere, and I'm hitting the road
[2024-06-05 00:50:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it's fine, it's kinda where I want to be. Now I just need to fix it up a bit more, and then line up some sort of income that I can work anywhere, and I'm hitting the road
[2024-06-05 00:50:55] <Lucifer_arma> going to be a digital nomad :)
[2024-06-05 00:50:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| going to be a digital nomad :)
[2024-06-05 00:51:39] <Lucifer_arma> if you want to help, go to my youtube channel and subscribe, and join my patreon. It's not much, but I need my first patreon to seed it so that other people might actually sign up
[2024-06-05 00:51:39] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| I guess that's kinda cool, if that's what you want. Making the best of a shit situation.
[2024-06-05 00:51:40] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| I guess that's kinda cool, if that's what you want. Making the best of a shit situation.
[2024-06-05 00:51:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| if you want to help, go to my youtube channel and subscribe, and join my patreon. It's not much, but I need my first patreon to seed it so that other people might actually sign up
[2024-06-05 00:52:07] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| I'm a broke bitch atm cause I recently moved internationally
[2024-06-05 00:52:07] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| I'm a broke bitch atm cause I recently moved internationally
[2024-06-05 00:52:17] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| But if you wanna link your youtube, I'd be happy to sub
[2024-06-05 00:52:17] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| But if you wanna link your youtube, I'd be happy to sub
[2024-06-05 00:52:21] <Lucifer_arma> I've been wanting to do this travel thing for decades, but I had kids, so I needed to be near them. Now I'm an empty nester. I'm not happy that it took an eviction to push me into it, finally, but I am definitely making the best of it
[2024-06-05 00:52:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've been wanting to do this travel thing for decades, but I had kids, so I needed to be near them. Now I'm an empty nester. I'm not happy that it took an eviction to push me into it, finally, but I am definitely making the best of it
[2024-06-05 00:54:47] <Lucifer_arma> https://www.youtube.com/user/davefancella
[2024-06-05 00:54:47] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| https://www.youtube.com/user/davefancella
[2024-06-05 00:57:47] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Subbed :]
[2024-06-05 00:57:47] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Subbed :]
[2024-06-05 01:05:34] <Lucifer_arma> thank you. :)
[2024-06-05 01:05:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| thank you. :)
[2024-06-05 06:31:29] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| 💭
[2024-06-05 06:31:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| 💭
[2024-06-05 06:31:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1247860341216510132/unisex-french-terry-pullover-hoodie-black-back-66603e3eb9813.png?ex=66619001&is=66603e81&hm=63c6c57b6a9cb865ec6994782a0dc220426c776d78a8e33dadf1b90519c06702&
[2024-06-05 06:31:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1247860341216510132/unisex-french-terry-pullover-hoodie-black-back-66603e3eb9813.png?ex=66619001&is=66603e81&hm=63c6c57b6a9cb865ec6994782a0dc220426c776d78a8e33dadf1b90519c06702&
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[2024-06-05 09:34:56] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| made a couple samples and they're on their way to me. if i like em i'll put up a webstore
[2024-06-05 09:34:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| made a couple samples and they're on their way to me. if i like em i'll put up a webstore
[2024-06-05 10:40:00] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| They ought to say retrocycles for marketing lol
[2024-06-05 10:40:00] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| They ought to say retrocycles for marketing lol
[2024-06-05 11:03:31] <armagetron-bridge> 11discord:Deso| /dcpaauj
[2024-06-05 11:03:32] <armagetronbridge> 11discord:Deso| /dcpaauj
[2024-06-05 11:05:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ^
[2024-06-05 11:05:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ^
[2024-06-05 11:07:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma space dildo launch appears to have been successful this time
[2024-06-05 11:07:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma space dildo launch appears to have been successful this time
[2024-06-05 11:08:23] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| module separation looks good too
[2024-06-05 11:08:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| module separation looks good too
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[2024-06-05 13:15:26] <Lucifer_arma> well, that video is already obsolete. Starliner made it to orbit today
[2024-06-05 13:15:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, that video is already obsolete. Starliner made it to orbit today
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[2024-06-05 14:30:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma might be worth looking into something like weechat, which would let you catch up on anything you missed when you were offline. Apparently you can even run a relay client in a terminal, as well as stuff like QWeeChat. That would run just fine on one of those free vps machines
[2024-06-05 14:30:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma might be worth looking into something like weechat, which would let you catch up on anything you missed when you were offline. Apparently you can even run a relay client in a terminal, as well as stuff like QWeeChat. That would run just fine on one of those free vps machines
[2024-06-05 18:45:41] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| @syn_acc what if the design is a maze that's also a QR code that brings you to discord
[2024-06-05 18:45:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| @syn_acc what if the design is a maze that's also a QR code that brings you to discord
[2024-06-05 19:53:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Can you make QR codes with clear paths?
[2024-06-05 19:53:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Can you make QR codes with clear paths?
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[2024-06-05 23:31:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| idk. I'm just thinking about positive and negative space arranged in the shape of a qr code, like given the right amount of spacing a reader should be able to interpret it. I'll try it if I get some time.
[2024-06-05 23:31:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| idk. I'm just thinking about positive and negative space arranged in the shape of a qr code, like given the right amount of spacing a reader should be able to interpret it. I'll try it if I get some time.
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[2024-06-06 03:28:09] <Lucifer_arma> Well, I guess I"m going to have to finish this video tomorrow. It's way too late to start rendering and uploading.
[2024-06-06 03:28:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Well, I guess I"m going to have to finish this video tomorrow. It's way too late to start rendering and uploading.
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[2024-06-06 12:46:43] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:gio.9289| Heya guys, am new. I have discovered this game on a tiktok video, so I also new in the game.
[2024-06-06 12:46:43] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:gio.9289| Heya guys, am new. I have discovered this game on a tiktok video, so I also new in the game.
[2024-06-06 12:47:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Welcome! Awesome to have you here 🙂
[2024-06-06 12:47:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Welcome! Awesome to have you here 🙂
[2024-06-06 12:47:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:gio.9289| Thanks!
[2024-06-06 12:47:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:gio.9289| Thanks!
[2024-06-06 12:49:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:gio.9289| When I played the game, it's looks different from the tiktok videos linked to this server, how can i obtain the same effect?
[2024-06-06 12:49:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:gio.9289| When I played the game, it's looks different from the tiktok videos linked to this server, how can i obtain the same effect?
[2024-06-06 12:50:42] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Hmm depends @gio.9289 who were you watching?
[2024-06-06 12:50:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Hmm depends @gio.9289 who were you watching?
[2024-06-06 12:50:49] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| You can customise basically everything in this game
[2024-06-06 12:50:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| You can customise basically everything in this game
[2024-06-06 12:52:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:gio.9289| From a profile named "justkoala"
[2024-06-06 12:52:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:gio.9289| From a profile named "justkoala"
[2024-06-06 12:52:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:gio.9289| @koalacycles
[2024-06-06 12:52:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:gio.9289| @koalacycles
[2024-06-06 12:53:53] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ah ha yeah i know the one
[2024-06-06 12:53:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ah ha yeah i know the one
[2024-06-06 12:54:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i think his biggest changes are turning most of the textures off
[2024-06-06 12:54:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i think his biggest changes are turning most of the textures off
[2024-06-06 12:54:53] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| esc -> system setup -> display settings -> detail settings
[2024-06-06 12:54:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| esc -> system setup -> display settings -> detail settings
[2024-06-06 12:55:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| wall textures off, object textures off
[2024-06-06 12:55:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| wall textures off, object textures off
[2024-06-06 12:55:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| then he has custom camera config too but start with those and see how u feel
[2024-06-06 12:55:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| then he has custom camera config too but start with those and see how u feel
[2024-06-06 12:55:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| just explore the options a bit and see what you like @gio.9289
[2024-06-06 12:55:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| just explore the options a bit and see what you like @gio.9289
[2024-06-06 12:58:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| you can also ask @justkoala directly he's very helpful
[2024-06-06 12:58:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you can also ask @justkoala directly he's very helpful
[2024-06-06 12:59:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:gio.9289| Ok thanks, I will try tonight with this settings, very helpfull
[2024-06-06 12:59:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:gio.9289| Ok thanks, I will try tonight with this settings, very helpfull
[2024-06-06 17:29:05] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| nivek definitely has the sumo league server rigged haha
[2024-06-06 17:29:05] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| nivek definitely has the sumo league server rigged haha
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[2024-06-06 20:06:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| Yo, new guy here, I just have some questions tbh, 1. HOW IS THERE NOT A NEW TRON GAME?! // 2. When is the best hour to find matches in armagetronad/retrocyles, cause I really love the game and I want to play it with more people
[2024-06-06 20:06:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| Yo, new guy here, I just have some questions tbh, 1. HOW IS THERE NOT A NEW TRON GAME?! // 2. When is the best hour to find matches in armagetronad/retrocyles, cause I really love the game and I want to play it with more people
[2024-06-06 20:07:09] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| What time zone are you
[2024-06-06 20:07:09] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| What time zone are you
[2024-06-06 20:07:54] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| @arox23
[2024-06-06 20:07:55] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| @arox23
[2024-06-06 20:08:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| I live in Portugal so if I'm not mistaken UTC+00:00
[2024-06-06 20:08:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| I live in Portugal so if I'm not mistaken UTC+00:00
[2024-06-06 20:09:07] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| Usually there are games noon est
[2024-06-06 20:09:07] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Usually there are games noon est
[2024-06-06 20:09:41] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| And from 930 to midnight est and randomly 2 am est
[2024-06-06 20:09:41] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| And from 930 to midnight est and randomly 2 am est
[2024-06-06 20:10:32] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| For pickup matches that is some days better than others and seems most of the day and night
[2024-06-06 20:10:32] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| For pickup matches that is some days better than others and seems most of the day and night
[2024-06-06 20:11:42] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| If you scroll pickup where tron bot displays the match it will give you a good idea what people are on and when
[2024-06-06 20:11:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| If you scroll pickup where tron bot displays the match it will give you a good idea what people are on and when
[2024-06-06 20:17:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| Thanks!!
[2024-06-06 20:17:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| Thanks!!
[2024-06-06 20:20:51] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Because we already have the best tron game possible. If people are still playing it for 10+ years, youve got a winner. The game isnt visually impressive but the mechanics are near perfect
[2024-06-06 20:20:51] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Because we already have the best tron game possible. If people are still playing it for 10+ years, youve got a winner. The game isnt visually impressive but the mechanics are near perfect
[2024-06-06 20:21:47] <Lucifer_arma> I've been playing this since it came out on the Commodore 64
[2024-06-06 20:21:47] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've been playing this since it came out on the Commodore 64
[2024-06-06 20:24:35] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Yeah, simple graphic changes prolly make the difference. And you can fully customize your camera/view, depending on what works best for you. I like a distant camera so I can see everything, without having the glance (turn the camera side to side), but a lot of people swear by closer cameras and glancing. Mess around with the camera_custom commands in the console. You can find a f <clipped message>
[2024-06-06 20:24:36] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Yeah, simple graphic changes prolly make the difference. And you can fully customize your camera/view, depending on what works best for you. I like a distant camera so I can see everything, without having the glance (turn the camera side to side), but a lot of people swear by closer cameras and glancing. Mess around with the camera_custom commands in the console. You can find a f <clipped message>
[2024-06-06 20:24:36] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| ulp list of commands online; just control+f for "camera"
[2024-06-06 20:24:36] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| ulp list of commands online; just control+f for "camera"
[2024-06-06 20:24:55] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Right right, next youre gonna say your dad made arma
[2024-06-06 20:24:55] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Right right, next youre gonna say your dad made arma
[2024-06-06 20:26:35] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Heres the link for all commands: https://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php/Console_Commands
[2024-06-06 20:26:35] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Heres the link for all commands: https://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php/Console_Commands
[2024-06-06 20:27:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| I'm not talking about ultra graphics or anything like that, but a LOT of people dont know about this game, a LOT, I just think a lil revamp with marketing would bring a lot of new players to play it, but ig its not possible, sad cause I really love the whole aesthetic and tron gameplay
[2024-06-06 20:27:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| I'm not talking about ultra graphics or anything like that, but a LOT of people dont know about this game, a LOT, I just think a lil revamp with marketing would bring a lot of new players to play it, but ig its not possible, sad cause I really love the whole aesthetic and tron gameplay
[2024-06-06 20:28:00] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Mmhmm, its been a long conversatiom how to attract new players.
[2024-06-06 20:28:00] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| Mmhmm, its been a long conversatiom how to attract new players.
[2024-06-06 20:28:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| We don't need a new game for all that imo
[2024-06-06 20:28:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| We don't need a new game for all that imo
[2024-06-06 20:28:27] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Imagine we funded literal ads for this game lol
[2024-06-06 20:28:28] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Imagine we funded literal ads for this game lol
[2024-06-06 20:30:49] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| yeah the thing is I just don't think thats possible, I think out of 100 people that knows nothing about tron, 5 would be interested in actually playing the game, and that makes me sad, because I just love it
[2024-06-06 20:30:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| yeah the thing is I just don't think thats possible, I think out of 100 people that knows nothing about tron, 5 would be interested in actually playing the game, and that makes me sad, because I just love it
[2024-06-06 20:31:16] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Id say one of the reasons is because the project and legacy falls on us, the players/community, because it's a free open source game. So any marketing or development is in our hands
[2024-06-06 20:31:17] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Id say one of the reasons is because the project and legacy falls on us, the players/community, because it's a free open source game. So any marketing or development is in our hands
[2024-06-06 20:32:02] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| 5 out of 100 times how many people with a computer? Id be stoked to have that many players on the grid
[2024-06-06 20:32:03] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| 5 out of 100 times how many people with a computer? Id be stoked to have that many players on the grid
[2024-06-06 20:33:12] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean by my math that's at least a million players if you count every household with a PC?
[2024-06-06 20:33:13] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean by my math that's at least a million players if you count every household with a PC?
[2024-06-06 20:35:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| Yeah but that really isn't happening right now
[2024-06-06 20:35:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| Yeah but that really isn't happening right now
[2024-06-06 20:35:34] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| True
[2024-06-06 20:35:34] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| True
[2024-06-06 20:35:51] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| I wish it was tho, really do
[2024-06-06 20:35:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| I wish it was tho, really do
[2024-06-06 20:36:10] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well if you have any talent for social media marketing you can always pitch in to help out
[2024-06-06 20:36:10] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well if you have any talent for social media marketing you can always pitch in to help out
[2024-06-06 20:36:18] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Whether that's YouTube or twitch streaming or tick tock or Twitter or whatever
[2024-06-06 20:36:18] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Whether that's YouTube or twitch streaming or tick tock or Twitter or whatever
[2024-06-06 20:36:28] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I personally don't seem to know how to get a following so...
[2024-06-06 20:36:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I personally don't seem to know how to get a following so...
[2024-06-06 20:38:00] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| doing marketing for new people to play a game old like that is really hard, young people nowadays reject a lot of the older games, not all of course, but the big majority
[2024-06-06 20:38:01] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| doing marketing for new people to play a game old like that is really hard, young people nowadays reject a lot of the older games, not all of course, but the big majority
[2024-06-06 20:40:22] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| We have had people work on projects to update the game a bit but it's a difficult thing to do
[2024-06-06 20:40:23] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| We have had people work on projects to update the game a bit but it's a difficult thing to do
[2024-06-06 20:40:49] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| By the way if you got time to play we are in a Sumo server right now
[2024-06-06 20:40:49] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| By the way if you got time to play we are in a Sumo server right now
[2024-06-06 20:40:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| why is it difficult? the engine?
[2024-06-06 20:40:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| why is it difficult? the engine?
[2024-06-06 20:41:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| There is no game engine
[2024-06-06 20:41:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| There is no game engine
[2024-06-06 20:41:10] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's all written in c++
[2024-06-06 20:41:10] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's all written in c++
[2024-06-06 20:41:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| can't right now, really late here, just wanted to see a bit more of the community
[2024-06-06 20:41:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| can't right now, really late here, just wanted to see a bit more of the community
[2024-06-06 20:41:34] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| oh ok, I have no idea how the game is made
[2024-06-06 20:41:34] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| oh ok, I have no idea how the game is made
[2024-06-06 20:44:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| well I really hope something happens to make the game more popular, I think one of the biggest chances is some big streamer play the game on stream, unfortunatly
[2024-06-06 20:44:27] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| well I really hope something happens to make the game more popular, I think one of the biggest chances is some big streamer play the game on stream, unfortunatly
[2024-06-06 20:44:37] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:arox23| well gotta go now, bye
[2024-06-06 20:44:37] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:arox23| well gotta go now, bye
[2024-06-06 20:44:59] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Agree with the streamer idea something like what happened with among Us and a few others
[2024-06-06 20:44:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Agree with the streamer idea something like what happened with among Us and a few others
[2024-06-06 20:56:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| There are ways of getting it out there as long as people are still playing and streaming it
[2024-06-06 20:56:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| There are ways of getting it out there as long as people are still playing and streaming it
[2024-06-06 20:56:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's in the works. I need to move a few pins around and actually have a community chat about it, as well as asking the creator of the original video, but I'm hopeful that I can do a small campaign toward the end of this year when ti starts getting a bit colder
[2024-06-06 20:56:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| That's in the works. I need to move a few pins around and actually have a community chat about it, as well as asking the creator of the original video, but I'm hopeful that I can do a small campaign toward the end of this year when ti starts getting a bit colder
[2024-06-06 20:57:14] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| And biggest is people on when these people log on
[2024-06-06 20:57:15] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| And biggest is people on when these people log on
[2024-06-06 20:58:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| I feel the community is growing which helps more people being on sometimes there will be about 8 players in sub fighting it out
[2024-06-06 20:58:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| I feel the community is growing which helps more people being on sometimes there will be about 8 players in sub fighting it out
[2024-06-06 21:30:26] <Lucifer_arma> For anyone who wants to see the work on my van, here's the first video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohzCPNIfT98
[2024-06-06 21:30:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| For anyone who wants to see the work on my van, here's the first video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohzCPNIfT98
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[2024-06-06 21:46:39] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh? Now I'm curious about the video and campaign idea
[2024-06-06 21:46:39] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh? Now I'm curious about the video and campaign idea
[2024-06-06 21:53:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma one of them singel folding futon chairs might be very useful in there. More comfortable than a car seat to sit in, and slightly elevated for sleeping. Little fold out table would work too, then you can put in a mor epermanent workspace on the driver's side. Ickle coffee making station sounds like a wicked idea
[2024-06-06 21:53:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lucifer_arma one of them singel folding futon chairs might be very useful in there. More comfortable than a car seat to sit in, and slightly elevated for sleeping. Little fold out table would work too, then you can put in a mor epermanent workspace on the driver's side. Ickle coffee making station sounds like a wicked idea
[2024-06-06 21:56:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @chaotic_nivek I'm keeping shtum on it at hte moment because I don't know precisely how much its going to cost, and when precisely I'll be able to budget for it. I have a substantial increase in income coming soonish, but soonish is anything between a month and a year from now depending on how fast I can work.
[2024-06-06 21:56:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @chaotic_nivek I'm keeping shtum on it at hte moment because I don't know precisely how much its going to cost, and when precisely I'll be able to budget for it. I have a substantial increase in income coming soonish, but soonish is anything between a month and a year from now depending on how fast I can work.
[2024-06-06 21:56:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| In a rather positive turn of events, I managed to spend four hours yesterday absorbed in my own shitty code, which is something I haven't been able to do in years. Once I have the office and whatnot sorted that shoul dbe easier to do instead of these twenty minute drips and drabs
[2024-06-06 21:56:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| In a rather positive turn of events, I managed to spend four hours yesterday absorbed in my own shitty code, which is something I haven't been able to do in years. Once I have the office and whatnot sorted that shoul dbe easier to do instead of these twenty minute drips and drabs
[2024-06-06 22:02:27] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well I'll look forward to it
[2024-06-06 22:02:27] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well I'll look forward to it
[2024-06-06 22:04:39] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So hypothetically if I wanted to host a dedicated server what are used office computer work fine for this game as long as I had a stable network connection or is it a little more complicated than that?
[2024-06-06 22:04:39] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So hypothetically if I wanted to host a dedicated server what are used office computer work fine for this game as long as I had a stable network connection or is it a little more complicated than that?
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[2024-06-07 00:40:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| @chaotic_nivek it’s pretty simple there isn’t much hardware requirement just a good internet which due to routing is somewhat a luck of the draw
[2024-06-07 00:40:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| @chaotic_nivek it’s pretty simple there isn’t much hardware requirement just a good internet which due to routing is somewhat a luck of the draw
[2024-06-07 00:41:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| enough docs around online to get you over the line
[2024-06-07 00:41:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| enough docs around online to get you over the line
[2024-06-07 00:41:52] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I was just curious right now my budget is zero so just speculating
[2024-06-07 00:41:53] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I was just curious right now my budget is zero so just speculating
[2024-06-07 00:44:00] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I suppose that I could just run a server from the computer I have but then I don't suppose I would be able to switch operating systems without shutting it down and I'm sure that if I was to be downloading stuff all blocking YouTube it would affect anybody playing am I right?
[2024-06-07 00:44:00] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I suppose that I could just run a server from the computer I have but then I don't suppose I would be able to switch operating systems without shutting it down and I'm sure that if I was to be downloading stuff all blocking YouTube it would affect anybody playing am I right?
[2024-06-07 00:44:19] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Not that I would expect it to be that busy and I can always watch the traffic I suppose...
[2024-06-07 00:44:19] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Not that I would expect it to be that busy and I can always watch the traffic I suppose...
[2024-06-07 00:48:10] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Or even playing other multiplayer player games with it in the background would effect its lag too I suppose, just sounds like a hassle, so I was thinking cheap used office PC lol
[2024-06-07 00:48:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Or even playing other multiplayer player games with it in the background would effect its lag too I suppose, just sounds like a hassle, so I was thinking cheap used office PC lol
[2024-06-07 01:41:45] <Lucifer_arma> I used to run my mail server on my game server, so whenever there was a lag bomb, people would joke that I just got mail
[2024-06-07 01:41:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I used to run my mail server on my game server, so whenever there was a lag bomb, people would joke that I just got mail
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[2024-06-07 03:17:29] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| Hi guys, anyone know who I would contact to get my forums account reactivated?
[2024-06-07 03:17:29] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| Hi guys, anyone know who I would contact to get my forums account reactivated?
[2024-06-07 03:41:29] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| if it was deleted you could probably just recreate it with the same username
[2024-06-07 03:41:29] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| if it was deleted you could probably just recreate it with the same username
[2024-06-07 03:42:10] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| It's listed as "inactive" when trying to login
[2024-06-07 03:42:10] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| It's listed as "inactive" when trying to login
[2024-06-07 03:42:17] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| o hmm
[2024-06-07 03:42:17] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| o hmm
[2024-06-07 03:42:47] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| So I don't think it was purged. It mentions contacting the board administrator but that doesn't take me anywhere
[2024-06-07 03:42:47] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| So I don't think it was purged. It mentions contacting the board administrator but that doesn't take me anywhere
[2024-06-07 03:44:48] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| what was your username? their search isnt turning up anything for Akali
[2024-06-07 03:44:48] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| what was your username? their search isnt turning up anything for Akali
[2024-06-07 03:44:48] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1248543168681738351/image.png?ex=66640bf0&is=6662ba70&hm=ff8f1edf3b634b03d3fd6decb37eb73ec3c1cb5e3c121782012e10e1ac904527&
[2024-06-07 03:44:49] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1248543168681738351/image.png?ex=66640bf0&is=6662ba70&hm=ff8f1edf3b634b03d3fd6decb37eb73ec3c1cb5e3c121782012e10e1ac904527&
[2024-06-07 03:44:53] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| (lucky i didnt type agility)
[2024-06-07 03:44:53] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| (lucky i didnt type agility)
[2024-06-07 03:45:39] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| i dont have any powers on the forums, you'd have to talk to tank program aka guru3 who isn't even in IRC atm
[2024-06-07 03:45:39] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| i dont have any powers on the forums, you'd have to talk to tank program aka guru3 who isn't even in IRC atm
[2024-06-07 03:46:05] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| no wait im blind, he's on the list
[2024-06-07 03:46:06] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| no wait im blind, he's on the list
[2024-06-07 03:46:31] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| It is indeed Akali! Here's what it says when attempting to login (apologies for phone screenshot):
[2024-06-07 03:46:31] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| It is indeed Akali! Here's what it says when attempting to login (apologies for phone screenshot):
[2024-06-07 03:46:31] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1248543600107585567/image0.jpg?ex=66640c57&is=6662bad7&hm=a050ec8d07c558de8e39cb5fd7df8bade6b30039ece20f7dad102dde3ac49a5b&
[2024-06-07 03:46:31] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1248543600107585567/image0.jpg?ex=66640c57&is=6662bad7&hm=a050ec8d07c558de8e39cb5fd7df8bade6b30039ece20f7dad102dde3ac49a5b&
[2024-06-07 03:47:02] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| well i'd try reregistering it anyway, and if that doesnt work then contact tank
[2024-06-07 03:47:02] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| well i'd try reregistering it anyway, and if that doesnt work then contact tank
[2024-06-07 03:47:03] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| Gotcha thanks! I'll try and contact him in the morning
[2024-06-07 03:47:04] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| Gotcha thanks! I'll try and contact him in the morning
[2024-06-07 04:21:53] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:guruthree| It's morning here
[2024-06-07 04:21:53] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:guruthree| It's morning here
[2024-06-07 04:24:30] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:guruthree| Should now be reactivated
[2024-06-07 04:24:30] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:guruthree| Should now be reactivated
[2024-06-07 06:37:29] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Guys how to register in tron
[2024-06-07 06:37:29] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Guys how to register in tron
[2024-06-07 06:37:36] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Retrocycles
[2024-06-07 06:37:36] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Retrocycles
[2024-06-07 06:54:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| @tofuu0005 easiest way is to use lighttron
[2024-06-07 06:54:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| @tofuu0005 easiest way is to use lighttron
[2024-06-07 06:54:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| make an account on https://lightron.org (imagine ur username is aure)
[2024-06-07 06:54:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| make an account on https://lightron.org (imagine ur username is aure)
[2024-06-07 06:54:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| then in game type “/login aure@lt”
[2024-06-07 06:54:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| then in game type “/login aure@lt”
[2024-06-07 06:55:52] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Where to make an acc
[2024-06-07 06:55:52] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Where to make an acc
[2024-06-07 06:56:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| the link I provided
[2024-06-07 06:56:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the link I provided
[2024-06-07 06:57:09] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Aight done
[2024-06-07 06:57:09] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Aight done
[2024-06-07 06:57:15] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Thanks bro
[2024-06-07 06:57:15] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:tofuu0005| Thanks bro
[2024-06-07 06:58:42] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| All good have fun bro!
[2024-06-07 06:58:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| All good have fun bro!
[2024-06-07 11:13:26] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| I was going to try and track you down on IRC, thank you! I appreciate it.
[2024-06-07 11:13:26] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| I was going to try and track you down on IRC, thank you! I appreciate it.
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[2024-06-07 17:29:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Vote for WST30 dates in #polls !!!
[2024-06-07 17:29:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Vote for WST30 dates in #polls !!!
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[2024-06-08 07:56:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| wtf is this
[2024-06-08 07:56:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| wtf is this
[2024-06-08 07:56:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1248968840520667267/image.png?ex=66659860&is=666446e0&hm=e271e1f9507a08c0f54de9e436824d8fe3d6dd89e919adb9fc6ef2b3b1da13d2&
[2024-06-08 07:56:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1248968840520667267/image.png?ex=66659860&is=666446e0&hm=e271e1f9507a08c0f54de9e436824d8fe3d6dd89e919adb9fc6ef2b3b1da13d2&
[2024-06-08 07:56:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| why are we making new users solve some sort of equation to join a community
[2024-06-08 07:56:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| why are we making new users solve some sort of equation to join a community
[2024-06-08 07:56:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| some srs boomer shit
[2024-06-08 07:56:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| some srs boomer shit
[2024-06-08 07:56:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| we have mods for a reason
[2024-06-08 07:56:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we have mods for a reason
[2024-06-08 08:24:54] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol it seemed pretty easy to me
[2024-06-08 08:24:54] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol it seemed pretty easy to me
[2024-06-08 08:25:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Equation he says LOL
[2024-06-08 08:25:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Equation he says LOL
[2024-06-08 08:26:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly for my experience of running the discord server it is 100% necessary because people don't like to read anything so they'll just skip it so if you actually want them to read the rules then yes you need stuff like this
[2024-06-08 08:26:46] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly for my experience of running the discord server it is 100% necessary because people don't like to read anything so they'll just skip it so if you actually want them to read the rules then yes you need stuff like this
[2024-06-08 08:31:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i ran a discord server from 500 members to 15k and all we needed was a "what country are you from"
[2024-06-08 08:31:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i ran a discord server from 500 members to 15k and all we needed was a "what country are you from"
[2024-06-08 08:34:09] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| what is the value proposition here?
[2024-06-08 08:34:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| what is the value proposition here?
[2024-06-08 08:34:25] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| why should new members who know nothing about this game spend any sort of brainpower for this?
[2024-06-08 08:34:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| why should new members who know nothing about this game spend any sort of brainpower for this?
[2024-06-08 08:35:56] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well honestly I don't see a lot of value in the discord for new users anyways, other than maybe a place to ask questions I guess
[2024-06-08 08:35:56] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well honestly I don't see a lot of value in the discord for new users anyways, other than maybe a place to ask questions I guess
[2024-06-08 08:37:07] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| exactly
[2024-06-08 08:37:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| exactly
[2024-06-08 08:37:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I suppose in my discord we didn't want people to be in it if they weren't going to put in any effort to read the rules and understand how things work so idk maybe my experience doesn't apply
[2024-06-08 08:37:07] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I suppose in my discord we didn't want people to be in it if they weren't going to put in any effort to read the rules and understand how things work so idk maybe my experience doesn't apply
[2024-06-08 08:37:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| so why should they do this
[2024-06-08 08:37:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| so why should they do this
[2024-06-08 08:37:32] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Why should they join at all at that rate?
[2024-06-08 08:37:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Why should they join at all at that rate?
[2024-06-08 08:37:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| because they literally need to
[2024-06-08 08:37:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| because they literally need to
[2024-06-08 08:37:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if they want to play pickup
[2024-06-08 08:37:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if they want to play pickup
[2024-06-08 08:37:53] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| As a new player I definitely want it be adding and pick up lol
[2024-06-08 08:37:54] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| As a new player I definitely want it be adding and pick up lol
[2024-06-08 08:38:03] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| *Would not
[2024-06-08 08:38:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| *Would not
[2024-06-08 08:39:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ???
[2024-06-08 08:39:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ???
[2024-06-08 08:39:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| the fact is ive seen multiple new players now want to get involved and learn and this gateway is just arbitrary gatekeeping
[2024-06-08 08:39:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the fact is ive seen multiple new players now want to get involved and learn and this gateway is just arbitrary gatekeeping
[2024-06-08 08:40:08] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i didnt even know this existed, im certainly not going to send people to the discord now to learn more when they literally cant
[2024-06-08 08:40:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i didnt even know this existed, im certainly not going to send people to the discord now to learn more when they literally cant
[2024-06-08 08:40:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| without sitting and reading some random stuff that doesnt even apply to them
[2024-06-08 08:40:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| without sitting and reading some random stuff that doesnt even apply to them
[2024-06-08 08:41:32] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well either way I don't see how it's hard to type in don't be mean lol I really don't get the issue
[2024-06-08 08:41:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well either way I don't see how it's hard to type in don't be mean lol I really don't get the issue
[2024-06-08 08:42:37] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Although we may have some new people joining pickups I also see a lot of new people show up try it out get destroyed by other players and never play again lol and that's just pub sumo
[2024-06-08 08:42:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Although we may have some new people joining pickups I also see a lot of new people show up try it out get destroyed by other players and never play again lol and that's just pub sumo
[2024-06-08 08:43:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| how do you think i acquired this screenshot
[2024-06-08 08:43:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| how do you think i acquired this screenshot
[2024-06-08 08:43:39] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Back when I was brand new to this game I only played high rubber cuz everything else was too hard LOL but I was like 13 14 so there is that
[2024-06-08 08:43:39] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Back when I was brand new to this game I only played high rubber cuz everything else was too hard LOL but I was like 13 14 so there is that
[2024-06-08 08:43:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But a lot of our newer players will be of that age
[2024-06-08 08:43:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But a lot of our newer players will be of that age
[2024-06-08 08:44:36] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I assume you got the screenshot because somebody was too dumb to be able to figure it out I imagine they probably needed a hand holding just to install the game and find the server list...
[2024-06-08 08:44:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I assume you got the screenshot because somebody was too dumb to be able to figure it out I imagine they probably needed a hand holding just to install the game and find the server list...
[2024-06-08 08:45:06] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| wow
[2024-06-08 08:45:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| wow
[2024-06-08 08:48:47] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sorry for being harsh, I don't need to put my opinion up here if it's not being helpful so I'll put a lid on it
[2024-06-08 08:48:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sorry for being harsh, I don't need to put my opinion up here if it's not being helpful so I'll put a lid on it
[2024-06-08 08:50:14] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| this is exactly the mindset im trying to change
[2024-06-08 08:50:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| this is exactly the mindset im trying to change
[2024-06-08 08:50:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| people thinking the kids are dumb because they just wanna play
[2024-06-08 08:50:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| people thinking the kids are dumb because they just wanna play
[2024-06-08 08:50:41] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| not read a fucking bible
[2024-06-08 08:50:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| not read a fucking bible
[2024-06-08 08:51:42] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well personally I kind of agree cuz I don't think that discord and pick up games is the right answer for kids these days, I think just people in public servers would be more helpful
[2024-06-08 08:51:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well personally I kind of agree cuz I don't think that discord and pick up games is the right answer for kids these days, I think just people in public servers would be more helpful
[2024-06-08 08:51:57] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean if this game was just pick up games on discord when I started playing I probably wouldn't be here now
[2024-06-08 08:51:57] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean if this game was just pick up games on discord when I started playing I probably wouldn't be here now
[2024-06-08 08:52:32] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Like I said when I was a kid and this game was hard I only played high rubber servers nice and casual, playing sumo these days even for me is crazy sometimes with how good everyone is
[2024-06-08 08:52:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Like I said when I was a kid and this game was hard I only played high rubber servers nice and casual, playing sumo these days even for me is crazy sometimes with how good everyone is
[2024-06-08 09:13:25] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| there's discord's built in stuff now which would replace this, i've looked at it multiple times and decided to do nothing so far because there was zero positive or negative feedback (don't change it if it's not broken)
[2024-06-08 09:13:25] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| there's discord's built in stuff now which would replace this, i've looked at it multiple times and decided to do nothing so far because there was zero positive or negative feedback (don't change it if it's not broken)
[2024-06-08 09:14:53] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| i've seen many other servers with similar systems so i don't know what's best tbh
[2024-06-08 09:14:53] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| i've seen many other servers with similar systems so i don't know what's best tbh
[2024-06-08 09:24:29] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Discord's built-in system is probably a little simpler so for the sake of syn's argument that would be an improvement
[2024-06-08 09:24:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Discord's built-in system is probably a little simpler so for the sake of syn's argument that would be an improvement
[2024-06-08 09:24:38] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| With that one you just clicked the little check marks and that's it done
[2024-06-08 09:24:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| With that one you just clicked the little check marks and that's it done
[2024-06-08 09:25:50] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Or you could say that it's enough that they just get sent to that page automatically when they join and if they choose to read it they do if they don't oh well cuz really having to confirm the rules isn't really going to make them read it anyways
[2024-06-08 09:25:51] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Or you could say that it's enough that they just get sent to that page automatically when they join and if they choose to read it they do if they don't oh well cuz really having to confirm the rules isn't really going to make them read it anyways
[2024-06-08 11:04:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc That page exists to ensure that new users read a ruleset. We make exceptions for people who don't speak great english, or who don't quite understand what is being asked for them.
[2024-06-08 11:04:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc That page exists to ensure that new users read a ruleset. We make exceptions for people who don't speak great english, or who don't quite understand what is being asked for them.
[2024-06-08 11:04:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The entire process exists because we needed a way to make our stance on community behaviour extremely obvious. We had a very specific issue that resulted in a community member being suspended from the community because they put other members at risk of harm. Thus far, I've only needed to help two or three people with the process, and it appears to have been mostly effective - bar <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 11:04:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The entire process exists because we needed a way to make our stance on community behaviour extremely obvious. We had a very specific issue that resulted in a community member being suspended from the community because they put other members at risk of harm. Thus far, I've only needed to help two or three people with the process, and it appears to have been mostly effective - bar <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 11:04:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| the odd troll here and there. The reason for this as opposed to Discord's vague attempt at the same is because answering the question *requires* the individual to read the rules. The answer, too, is a generalisation that, if they have trouble understanding the rules proper, at least gives them an idea of why the rules exist - as they say, rules are written in blood.
[2024-06-08 11:04:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| the odd troll here and there. The reason for this as opposed to Discord's vague attempt at the same is because answering the question *requires* the individual to read the rules. The answer, too, is a generalisation that, if they have trouble understanding the rules proper, at least gives them an idea of why the rules exist - as they say, rules are written in blood.
[2024-06-08 11:12:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I actually spoke with the player who I made some rude comments about and did Apologize to him or her and found out that it was more of a language barrier issue and of course had nothing to do with intelligence or the complexity of the rules confirmation thing
[2024-06-08 11:12:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I actually spoke with the player who I made some rude comments about and did Apologize to him or her and found out that it was more of a language barrier issue and of course had nothing to do with intelligence or the complexity of the rules confirmation thing
[2024-06-08 11:46:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1249026857223979128/image0.jpg?ex=6665ce68&is=66647ce8&hm=e07667d9e63991fe2de745d76a732ff74690eb678be39c6cc6acc9e2ce35593a&
[2024-06-08 11:46:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1249026857223979128/image0.jpg?ex=6665ce68&is=66647ce8&hm=e07667d9e63991fe2de745d76a732ff74690eb678be39c6cc6acc9e2ce35593a&
[2024-06-08 11:47:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| “I’ve only needed to help 2 or 3 people”
[2024-06-08 11:47:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| “I’ve only needed to help 2 or 3 people”
[2024-06-08 11:49:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Aye, you might be right. Nevertheless, Discord's approach is a box ticking exercise that nobody pays attention to.
[2024-06-08 11:49:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Aye, you might be right. Nevertheless, Discord's approach is a box ticking exercise that nobody pays attention to.
[2024-06-08 11:50:06] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Why do we need them to pay so much attention
[2024-06-08 11:50:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Why do we need them to pay so much attention
[2024-06-08 11:50:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| because the idea is to prevent people being shit to each other in the first place, not manage the fallout when it happens
[2024-06-08 11:50:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| because the idea is to prevent people being shit to each other in the first place, not manage the fallout when it happens
[2024-06-08 11:51:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| fine whatever
[2024-06-08 11:51:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| fine whatever
[2024-06-08 11:52:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| To be utterly clear, the event I specifically referred to might have lead to risk of physical injury or other serious harm had it happened to other, more vulnerable, individuals in the community. Can't be having that.
[2024-06-08 11:52:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| To be utterly clear, the event I specifically referred to might have lead to risk of physical injury or other serious harm had it happened to other, more vulnerable, individuals in the community. Can't be having that.
[2024-06-08 11:52:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| no risk no reward
[2024-06-08 11:52:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| no risk no reward
[2024-06-08 11:52:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if you don’t get it i can’t change that
[2024-06-08 11:53:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if you don’t get it i can’t change that
[2024-06-08 11:53:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| this is the internet
[2024-06-08 11:53:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| this is the internet
[2024-06-08 11:53:24] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| you’re not responsible for anybody’s wellbeing here
[2024-06-08 11:53:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you’re not responsible for anybody’s wellbeing here
[2024-06-08 11:55:12] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| That's an asshole attitude, just saying.
[2024-06-08 11:55:12] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| That's an asshole attitude, just saying.
[2024-06-08 11:55:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The internet can and does have real life consequences for people, especially nowadays. I'm not going to get into specifics as to the how or the why for fear of unintentionally doing exactly the same thing, but I would not be best pleased if I were in the position of such a person and had been compromised in such a fashion as occurred. Unfortunately, we are very much responsible f <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 11:55:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The internet can and does have real life consequences for people, especially nowadays. I'm not going to get into specifics as to the how or the why for fear of unintentionally doing exactly the same thing, but I would not be best pleased if I were in the position of such a person and had been compromised in such a fashion as occurred. Unfortunately, we are very much responsible f <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 11:55:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| or the safety of the community at large - and for what its worth, we spent quite a while consulting with the affected persons as to how to proceed.
[2024-06-08 11:55:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| or the safety of the community at large - and for what its worth, we spent quite a while consulting with the affected persons as to how to proceed.
[2024-06-08 11:56:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Agreed. Not proud of that stance, but it is one I hold. Todays internet is filled with oppression olympics where the moral virtue belongs with the one who is hurt the most. It's unfair on everyone else.
[2024-06-08 11:56:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Agreed. Not proud of that stance, but it is one I hold. Todays internet is filled with oppression olympics where the moral virtue belongs with the one who is hurt the most. It's unfair on everyone else.
[2024-06-08 11:57:38] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| It goes back to our conversations about regulation more generally. This creep of authority because of single issues creates a wall that you cannot see through
[2024-06-08 11:57:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| It goes back to our conversations about regulation more generally. This creep of authority because of single issues creates a wall that you cannot see through
[2024-06-08 11:57:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We should put a pin in this. We don't agree, which is fine, but it's getting a bit spicy for my liking
[2024-06-08 11:57:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We should put a pin in this. We don't agree, which is fine, but it's getting a bit spicy for my liking
[2024-06-08 11:58:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| sure, just trying to break down barriers, nothing against anyone particularly
[2024-06-08 11:58:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| sure, just trying to break down barriers, nothing against anyone particularly
[2024-06-08 12:19:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I'm not going to get into this conversation other than to point out one thing, and I won't be responding to the topic after this post. The gatekeeping is not arbitrary. This is one of the oldest game communities on the Internet, and I'm not even exaggerating. Other than a few from the 90s, you'll be hard pressed to find another 25 year old game that still has people playing onlin <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 12:19:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I'm not going to get into this conversation other than to point out one thing, and I won't be responding to the topic after this post. The gatekeeping is not arbitrary. This is one of the oldest game communities on the Internet, and I'm not even exaggerating. Other than a few from the 90s, you'll be hard pressed to find another 25 year old game that still has people playing onlin <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 12:19:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| e everyday, let alone regular tournaments. With that age comes experience, and this community had had a lot of terrible people in it over the years. We took care of it, we don't miss them; everyone here is tight and we all love each other for the most part. It's not a stretch to say it's more of a family than your average game community. We're perfectly fine with Armagetron being <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 12:19:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| e everyday, let alone regular tournaments. With that age comes experience, and this community had had a lot of terrible people in it over the years. We took care of it, we don't miss them; everyone here is tight and we all love each other for the most part. It's not a stretch to say it's more of a family than your average game community. We're perfectly fine with Armagetron being <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 12:20:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| a small group of heavily vetted people. Also, one of the cornerstones of open source software is RTFM. If a new player can't read the rules and follow them, then there are plenty of other games they can play.
[2024-06-08 12:20:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| a small group of heavily vetted people. Also, one of the cornerstones of open source software is RTFM. If a new player can't read the rules and follow them, then there are plenty of other games they can play.
[2024-06-08 12:21:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| That said, we all love your enthusiasm, so keep it up.
[2024-06-08 12:21:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| That said, we all love your enthusiasm, so keep it up.
[2024-06-08 12:28:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Appreciate this stance and it's definitely one that after listening to deli I can understand more. I'd hate to undermine anything that's been established here, it's changed the course of my life in more ways than one.
[2024-06-08 12:28:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Appreciate this stance and it's definitely one that after listening to deli I can understand more. I'd hate to undermine anything that's been established here, it's changed the course of my life in more ways than one.
[2024-06-08 12:28:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I yearn for more members, but I know that's a problem that isn't solved simply by making the onboarding reqs easier. ❤️ not going anywhere anytime soon
[2024-06-08 12:28:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| I yearn for more members, but I know that's a problem that isn't solved simply by making the onboarding reqs easier. ❤️ not going anywhere anytime soon
[2024-06-08 12:49:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| For what it's worth, I also am in favour of having the onboarding process.
[2024-06-08 12:49:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| For what it's worth, I also am in favour of having the onboarding process.
[2024-06-08 13:52:41] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| no english no tron!!!
[2024-06-08 13:52:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| no english no tron!!!
[2024-06-08 13:52:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i just read that theres a third movie coming out in 2025
[2024-06-08 13:52:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i just read that theres a third movie coming out in 2025
[2024-06-08 13:53:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron:_Ares idk how i didnt come across this sooner
[2024-06-08 13:53:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron:_Ares idk how i didnt come across this sooner
[2024-06-08 13:59:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh I saw something on FB and thought it was fake lol
[2024-06-08 13:59:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh I saw something on FB and thought it was fake lol
[2024-06-08 20:39:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| ye I think any barrier to entry is bad, especially since people who do get in probably aren't actually reading, just skimming for the line that says what to do, then reading "dont be mean", if they even get that far. Friends that I've had join thought it was broken because it didn't take them to the prompt immediately, just looked like an empty discord. Your willingness to read r <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 20:39:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| ye I think any barrier to entry is bad, especially since people who do get in probably aren't actually reading, just skimming for the line that says what to do, then reading "dont be mean", if they even get that far. Friends that I've had join thought it was broken because it didn't take them to the prompt immediately, just looked like an empty discord. Your willingness to read r <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 20:39:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| ules doesn't really mean much for how you're going to behave imo. I've never read the rules in any discord, nor do I plan to, doesn't make me act like an animal. Someone who does read them can still join and be an asshole. Like syn said, we do have mods and can take action if people are being a problem.
[2024-06-08 20:39:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| ules doesn't really mean much for how you're going to behave imo. I've never read the rules in any discord, nor do I plan to, doesn't make me act like an animal. Someone who does read them can still join and be an asshole. Like syn said, we do have mods and can take action if people are being a problem.
[2024-06-08 20:39:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| There's currently 70 of our 979 members that have not made it past the on-boarding process, but didn't leave the server yet (people are lazy about cleaning up their tons of discords). 2/3 of those are people that joined in the last 3 months. Most people who don't make it through the on-board probably do leave the server right after, so there's probably a ton of people we've missed out on recently.
[2024-06-08 20:39:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| There's currently 70 of our 979 members that have not made it past the on-boarding process, but didn't leave the server yet (people are lazy about cleaning up their tons of discords). 2/3 of those are people that joined in the last 3 months. Most people who don't make it through the on-board probably do leave the server right after, so there's probably a ton of people we've missed out on recently.
[2024-06-08 20:39:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I respect the desire to have a tight knit community, but I think we can have that without turning away people who have a chance of being long term members of that tight knit community, just cause they're lazy, young, non-english speakers, or whatever reason.
[2024-06-08 20:39:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| I respect the desire to have a tight knit community, but I think we can have that without turning away people who have a chance of being long term members of that tight knit community, just cause they're lazy, young, non-english speakers, or whatever reason.
[2024-06-08 20:39:55] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| You don't really have to read anything to download the game and join a server, why make them do that to go talk to people about the game?
[2024-06-08 20:39:56] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| You don't really have to read anything to download the game and join a server, why make them do that to go talk to people about the game?
[2024-06-08 22:03:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I kind of agree with nanu here because I was thinking that people already know what is and what isn't ok, nothing unique or new in our rules. If someone wants to be an asshole they aren't going to stop at the rules page and think "well damn they put these rules up so I can't be an asshole here". And I'll be honest I also didn't read the rules until today, I just quickly <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 22:03:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I kind of agree with nanu here because I was thinking that people already know what is and what isn't ok, nothing unique or new in our rules. If someone wants to be an asshole they aren't going to stop at the rules page and think "well damn they put these rules up so I can't be an asshole here". And I'll be honest I also didn't read the rules until today, I just quickly <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 22:03:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| realized that I could just type in don't be mean and moved on
[2024-06-08 22:03:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| realized that I could just type in don't be mean and moved on
[2024-06-08 22:15:37] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So what does the onboarding really accomplish if most aren't really reading it and it's not really going to make anyone abide by them? Probably has kept out a lot of people who aren't going to break the rules and probably kept out zero who don't care about the rules.
[2024-06-08 22:15:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So what does the onboarding really accomplish if most aren't really reading it and it's not really going to make anyone abide by them? Probably has kept out a lot of people who aren't going to break the rules and probably kept out zero who don't care about the rules.
[2024-06-08 22:42:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:anjo3060| i'd wager the barrier has probably had more impact in slowing down potential traffic on the grid than curating any kind of behavior. i think removing/keeping it is pretty inconsequential in the long run but i tend to agree with syn's philosophy that the fewer hoops one has to jump through to play this game, the better.
[2024-06-08 22:42:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| i'd wager the barrier has probably had more impact in slowing down potential traffic on the grid than curating any kind of behavior. i think removing/keeping it is pretty inconsequential in the long run but i tend to agree with syn's philosophy that the fewer hoops one has to jump through to play this game, the better.
[2024-06-08 23:06:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think you said it well
[2024-06-08 23:06:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think you said it well
[2024-06-08 23:10:49] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| You make a lot of good points but I just want to point out these are two different things. One is a game that has a chat function and tools to help people self-moderate their experience (Player Police Menu). The other is a community where some people post semi-personal information on a regular basis. It makes perfect sense to me that you would have a different approach to how peo <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 23:10:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| You make a lot of good points but I just want to point out these are two different things. One is a game that has a chat function and tools to help people self-moderate their experience (Player Police Menu). The other is a community where some people post semi-personal information on a regular basis. It makes perfect sense to me that you would have a different approach to how peo <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 23:10:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ple engage with the game itself and the community hub.
[2024-06-08 23:10:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ple engage with the game itself and the community hub.
[2024-06-08 23:13:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I really didn't want to add more to this conversation because I don't have any stake in it, but I wonder if there is something built into Discord that allows for some compromise. For instance, anyone can join the support channel without agreeing to terms and services, but other channels require that you read and sign?
[2024-06-08 23:13:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I really didn't want to add more to this conversation because I don't have any stake in it, but I wonder if there is something built into Discord that allows for some compromise. For instance, anyone can join the support channel without agreeing to terms and services, but other channels require that you read and sign?
[2024-06-08 23:14:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| If that's possible we can segregate the Discord server a little bit as a compromise?
[2024-06-08 23:14:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| If that's possible we can segregate the Discord server a little bit as a compromise?
[2024-06-08 23:38:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I'm not sure if I understood the point or if i may participate on it.. but as a "new member" even if the game is simple but complex, rules are made to teach members and build a culture(?). Armagetron is not a game for me but a platform to make different ways to have fun.
[2024-06-08 23:38:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I'm not sure if I understood the point or if i may participate on it.. but as a "new member" even if the game is simple but complex, rules are made to teach members and build a culture(?). Armagetron is not a game for me but a platform to make different ways to have fun.
[2024-06-08 23:38:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| In order to make the game interesting for everyone, there's no space for early or mid game since everything happens so fast that late game players get bored or stressed, and end up quitting.
[2024-06-08 23:38:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| In order to make the game interesting for everyone, there's no space for early or mid game since everything happens so fast that late game players get bored or stressed, and end up quitting.
[2024-06-08 23:38:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| For me, "the challenge of the grid" is to keep acompetitive comunity, learn and develop new ways to play and create a space for the people to practice and get the feeling of "lvl up".
[2024-06-08 23:38:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| For me, "the challenge of the grid" is to keep acompetitive comunity, learn and develop new ways to play and create a space for the people to practice and get the feeling of "lvl up".
[2024-06-08 23:38:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| Nothing of that can be possible without guidance, when i started i had "teachers" or "masters".
[2024-06-08 23:38:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| Nothing of that can be possible without guidance, when i started i had "teachers" or "masters".
[2024-06-08 23:38:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to tunnel from Johnny
[2024-06-08 23:38:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to tunnel from Johnny
[2024-06-08 23:38:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to defend from Wolf
[2024-06-08 23:38:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to defend from Wolf
[2024-06-08 23:38:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to see the future (play with +600 ping) from noodles
[2024-06-08 23:38:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to see the future (play with +600 ping) from noodles
[2024-06-08 23:38:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| And i had a rival/partner with my skill level on Dany
[2024-06-08 23:38:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| And i had a rival/partner with my skill level on Dany
[2024-06-08 23:38:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| My point on it is that the community makes the game, and the game is just the platform. Guidance is needed somehow. Btw i haven't played more bc i dont have enough time (i wish there was a mobile app).
[2024-06-08 23:38:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| My point on it is that the community makes the game, and the game is just the platform. Guidance is needed somehow. Btw i haven't played more bc i dont have enough time (i wish there was a mobile app).
[2024-06-08 23:38:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| Players always think "would it be fun to try?" Rather than "should i keep trying?"
[2024-06-08 23:38:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| Players always think "would it be fun to try?" Rather than "should i keep trying?"
[2024-06-08 23:38:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I hope it helps somehow
[2024-06-08 23:38:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I hope it helps somehow
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[2024-06-09 00:19:58] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:Force| If we want the game to grow its definitely best to remove it. I didn't even realize such a thing existed.
[2024-06-09 00:19:58] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:Force| If we want the game to grow its definitely best to remove it. I didn't even realize such a thing existed.
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[2024-06-09 02:45:37] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| I have seen the community grow quite a bit just since joining .. I am not sure how most people will take being new but every tip helps. Not all players are as stubborn as me who is content just playing key thing is the teaching and information you can give a new player when joining .. I am sure there has been many who quit just cause they don't have an idea on how to chat it seem <clipped message>
[2024-06-09 02:45:38] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| I have seen the community grow quite a bit just since joining .. I am not sure how most people will take being new but every tip helps. Not all players are as stubborn as me who is content just playing key thing is the teaching and information you can give a new player when joining .. I am sure there has been many who quit just cause they don't have an idea on how to chat it seem <clipped message>
[2024-06-09 02:45:38] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| s stupid .. But it happens .. He'll I never knew you could scroll .. Till monarki told me ..
[2024-06-09 02:45:38] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| s stupid .. But it happens .. He'll I never knew you could scroll .. Till monarki told me ..
[2024-06-09 02:46:47] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| I think it is the little things that if you show one they can teach each other and start their own little community of play times and people they enjoy playing with
[2024-06-09 02:46:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| I think it is the little things that if you show one they can teach each other and start their own little community of play times and people they enjoy playing with
[2024-06-09 02:48:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| Maybe some will play enough to get good and be a competitor for older players maybe some won't and that's okay too
[2024-06-09 02:48:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Maybe some will play enough to get good and be a competitor for older players maybe some won't and that's okay too
[2024-06-09 02:52:39] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| I enjoy just playing publicly the most there's no stress for a player to do well no teammate to let down if they don't do well .. Sometimes i see you all join and having good time .. Then a tst match comes .. And you leave play that round and it didnt go as planned cause everyone cant win and so they don't join again .. But can watch y'all play 12 to 15 matches like it's nothing in public servers
[2024-06-09 02:52:39] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| I enjoy just playing publicly the most there's no stress for a player to do well no teammate to let down if they don't do well .. Sometimes i see you all join and having good time .. Then a tst match comes .. And you leave play that round and it didnt go as planned cause everyone cant win and so they don't join again .. But can watch y'all play 12 to 15 matches like it's nothing in public servers
[2024-06-09 02:56:54] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| New members need to set small goals .. Not gonna win matches right away.. Be happy getting a kill .. Or surviving your way through a tunnel or out live being boxed in these are all keys to building skills .. Enjoy the feelings. We all had the feeling at one time.. It's those moments that bring the game community together
[2024-06-09 02:56:54] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| New members need to set small goals .. Not gonna win matches right away.. Be happy getting a kill .. Or surviving your way through a tunnel or out live being boxed in these are all keys to building skills .. Enjoy the feelings. We all had the feeling at one time.. It's those moments that bring the game community together
[2024-06-09 08:28:22] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:emer16| Hello
[2024-06-09 08:28:23] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:emer16| Hello
[2024-06-09 08:33:51] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hi there!
[2024-06-09 08:33:51] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hi there!
[2024-06-09 08:34:08] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:emer16| I'm switching hotckeys and coming back if you want
[2024-06-09 08:34:09] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:emer16| I'm switching hotckeys and coming back if you want
[2024-06-09 08:35:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ok sure
[2024-06-09 08:35:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ok sure
[2024-06-09 08:57:49] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| I agree, the casual competition and fun banter of public servers are what led me to fall in love with this game. It's cool what @syn_acc is doing with his server to create incentives to play pub again.
[2024-06-09 08:57:49] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| I agree, the casual competition and fun banter of public servers are what led me to fall in love with this game. It's cool what @syn_acc is doing with his server to create incentives to play pub again.
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[2024-06-09 13:51:15] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| There's a lot of good arguments on both sides. Hmmmm..
[2024-06-09 13:51:15] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:backwards_autumn| There's a lot of good arguments on both sides. Hmmmm..
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[2024-06-09 18:07:26] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ultimately my only point is/was i want more players and the only way we're gonna get that is by increasing accessibility across the board
[2024-06-09 18:07:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ultimately my only point is/was i want more players and the only way we're gonna get that is by increasing accessibility across the board
[2024-06-09 18:07:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| no way english comprehension is a requirement to play tron with us
[2024-06-09 18:07:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| no way english comprehension is a requirement to play tron with us
[2024-06-09 18:07:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| hell look at [REDACTED]
[2024-06-09 18:07:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| hell look at [REDACTED]
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[2024-06-10 00:19:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| omg hi @gumbo.skrimp!! welcome back 😎
[2024-06-10 00:19:44] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| omg hi @gumbo.skrimp!! welcome back 😎
[2024-06-10 03:35:45] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| feel like my mma training is starting to impact my typing ability
[2024-06-10 03:35:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| feel like my mma training is starting to impact my typing ability
[2024-06-10 03:36:04] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| the hand wraps compress my pinky a lot inside the gloves
[2024-06-10 03:36:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the hand wraps compress my pinky a lot inside the gloves
[2024-06-10 03:36:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| :q_pepesob:
[2024-06-10 03:36:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| :q_pepesob:
[2024-06-10 08:21:46] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Haha I get the messed up fingers as well but from rock climbing. We need a sub for Tron finger physiotherapy
[2024-06-10 08:21:47] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Haha I get the messed up fingers as well but from rock climbing. We need a sub for Tron finger physiotherapy
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[2024-06-10 18:00:31] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Yeah, that is probably a useful angle to approach this from. HAVING rules, especially a small number of simple ones, is good. Forcing the users to give a token confirmation that they read them is sensible procedure, even if you know many won't read them, as that makes the mods' job easier ("O sorry mate, I did not know we were not supposed to bully people around here."). Actuall <clipped message>
[2024-06-10 18:00:31] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Yeah, that is probably a useful angle to approach this from. HAVING rules, especially a small number of simple ones, is good. Forcing the users to give a token confirmation that they read them is sensible procedure, even if you know many won't read them, as that makes the mods' job easier ("O sorry mate, I did not know we were not supposed to bully people around here."). Actuall <clipped message>
[2024-06-10 18:00:31] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| y forcing users to read them might not be worth the extra friction.
[2024-06-10 18:00:31] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| y forcing users to read them might not be worth the extra friction.
[2024-06-10 18:13:22] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| i started that shit recently. hands and forearms feel like they are on fire doing up my shoelaces xd
[2024-06-10 18:13:22] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| i started that shit recently. hands and forearms feel like they are on fire doing up my shoelaces xd
[2024-06-10 18:57:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| first prototypes arrived 🖤 quality is ok but i think next samples im gonna try more premium materials and see what the price is like
[2024-06-10 18:57:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1249860058217578547/IMG_1196.jpg?ex=6668d663&is=666784e3&hm=cf88f154b53b8698dc47350fd92574746d455a4b7147504a72940b5d44b5893b&
[2024-06-10 18:57:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| first prototypes arrived 🖤 quality is ok but i think next samples im gonna try more premium materials and see what the price is like
[2024-06-10 18:57:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1249860058217578547/IMG_1196.jpg?ex=6668d663&is=666784e3&hm=cf88f154b53b8698dc47350fd92574746d455a4b7147504a72940b5d44b5893b&
[2024-06-10 18:57:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| these would go for around €25 to cover costs
[2024-06-10 18:57:55] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| these would go for around €25 to cover costs
[2024-06-10 18:58:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| also need some nicer mazes lol
[2024-06-10 18:58:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| also need some nicer mazes lol
[2024-06-10 19:06:41] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| Those look sick!
[2024-06-10 19:06:41] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:.dBd|Akali| Those look sick!
[2024-06-10 19:34:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc oooh maybe grab some of the mazes from #challenges
[2024-06-10 19:34:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc oooh maybe grab some of the mazes from #challenges
[2024-06-10 19:34:11] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Yea it's brutal the first few times but super addicting once you get into it. @raph.2 was the one who got me into climbing actually
[2024-06-10 19:34:11] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Yea it's brutal the first few times but super addicting once you get into it. @raph.2 was the one who got me into climbing actually
[2024-06-10 19:34:23] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Very cool
[2024-06-10 19:34:23] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Very cool
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[2024-06-11 03:08:08] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Yeah this is definitely a good idea. It's easier said than done to create the intricate mazes we can do in tron using my little creator though
[2024-06-11 03:08:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Yeah this is definitely a good idea. It's easier said than done to create the intricate mazes we can do in tron using my little creator though
[2024-06-11 03:08:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| arma gets away with not being pixel perfect, these designs don't have that luxury
[2024-06-11 03:08:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| arma gets away with not being pixel perfect, these designs don't have that luxury
[2024-06-11 04:49:03] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:Rx.Luigi (Best LDF Player Ever)| I feel like with how small and old the armagetron/retrocyles community is and how tight we all are the onboarding process shouldn't be needed but i also understand we need a way to filter out the bad members that join but i feel like theirs a better way to go about it. And should look into other ways to do so.
[2024-06-11 04:49:03] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Rx.Luigi (Best LDF Player Ever)| I feel like with how small and old the armagetron/retrocyles community is and how tight we all are the onboarding process shouldn't be needed but i also understand we need a way to filter out the bad members that join but i feel like theirs a better way to go about it. And should look into other ways to do so.
[2024-06-11 04:49:04] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:Rx.Luigi (Best LDF Player Ever)| But until retrocycles blows up and we get a masssive influx of members we should remove it until a better process is put into place. We want to grow has a game and a community and we should make that easiest and smoothest has possible for new members.
[2024-06-11 04:49:04] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:Rx.Luigi (Best LDF Player Ever)| But until retrocycles blows up and we get a masssive influx of members we should remove it until a better process is put into place. We want to grow has a game and a community and we should make that easiest and smoothest has possible for new members.
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[2024-06-11 08:15:37] <nivek311> Never used IRC before so I figured id mess around and try it lol This is the only IRC channel I even know of
[2024-06-11 08:15:42] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Never used IRC before so I figured id mess around and try it lol This is the only IRC channel I even know of
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[2024-06-11 08:56:24] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| a legendary protocol
[2024-06-11 08:56:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| a legendary protocol
[2024-06-11 08:56:37] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| one of the first shitty things i built was an irc client
[2024-06-11 08:56:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| one of the first shitty things i built was an irc client
[2024-06-11 08:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| code is still somewhere… c#
[2024-06-11 08:56:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| code is still somewhere… c#
[2024-06-11 09:06:56] <nivek311> How did you get started programming? I've dabbled in the basics but never really found that I ever really learned to program anything other than copying tutorials lol
[2024-06-11 09:06:56] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| How did you get started programming? I've dabbled in the basics but never really found that I ever really learned to program anything other than copying tutorials lol
[2024-06-11 09:22:53] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| I have a somewhat unique story cause I got picked up by the government but on the whole it's a very self driven, creative field
[2024-06-11 09:22:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I have a somewhat unique story cause I got picked up by the government but on the whole it's a very self driven, creative field
[2024-06-11 09:23:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| All you need is the will to create something
[2024-06-11 09:23:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| All you need is the will to create something
[2024-06-11 09:23:52] <nivek311> ya i've told myself the same thing but I guess I just havent thought of something to interesting to create
[2024-06-11 09:23:53] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| ya i've told myself the same thing but I guess I just havent thought of something to interesting to create
[2024-06-11 09:24:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Many will tell you about courses and certificates etc etc but I found that problem based learning is the way to go. Get your hands dirty asap
[2024-06-11 09:24:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Many will tell you about courses and certificates etc etc but I found that problem based learning is the way to go. Get your hands dirty asap
[2024-06-11 09:25:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| There's lots to learn in reinventing the wheel too. Like above, pick a common protocol (HTTP, FTP, SSH, IRC, SMTP, whatever) and learn about it and then build a client for it. There's so much joy you get out of using software you've built with your own hands
[2024-06-11 09:25:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| There's lots to learn in reinventing the wheel too. Like above, pick a common protocol (HTTP, FTP, SSH, IRC, SMTP, whatever) and learn about it and then build a client for it. There's so much joy you get out of using software you've built with your own hands
[2024-06-11 09:26:27] <nivek311> Have had some game ideas but I struggle to stay focused and kinda get caught up on the fact I can't draw or do graphic design so making a game solo seems unrealistic. Simple shapes like ive seen some indies do just wouldn't satisfy me lol
[2024-06-11 09:26:27] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Have had some game ideas but I struggle to stay focused and kinda get caught up on the fact I can't draw or do graphic design so making a game solo seems unrealistic. Simple shapes like ive seen some indies do just wouldn't satisfy me lol
[2024-06-11 09:26:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| offensive security is also a lot of fun. capture the flags, bug bounties, etc.
[2024-06-11 09:26:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| offensive security is also a lot of fun. capture the flags, bug bounties, etc.
[2024-06-11 09:26:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://hackthebox.com
[2024-06-11 09:26:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://hackthebox.com
[2024-06-11 09:26:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://tryhackme.com/
[2024-06-11 09:26:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://tryhackme.com/
[2024-06-11 09:27:36] <nivek311> Trying to break security systems made to be hacked or something?
[2024-06-11 09:27:37] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Trying to break security systems made to be hacked or something?
[2024-06-11 09:28:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| thats exactly the case in capture the flag exercies yep
[2024-06-11 09:28:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| thats exactly the case in capture the flag exercies yep
[2024-06-11 09:28:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| in bug bounty big companies will pay you (in some cases tens of thousands of dollars) to find critical vulnerabilities in their systems so they can patch them before they're exploited
[2024-06-11 09:28:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| in bug bounty big companies will pay you (in some cases tens of thousands of dollars) to find critical vulnerabilities in their systems so they can patch them before they're exploited
[2024-06-11 09:29:04] <nivek311> Well although I somehow managed to get around my schools firewall to play tron back in highschool i dont know the first thing about security hacking, I don't even remember what I did in highschool lol
[2024-06-11 09:29:05] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Well although I somehow managed to get around my schools firewall to play tron back in highschool i dont know the first thing about security hacking, I don't even remember what I did in highschool lol
[2024-06-11 09:30:19] <nivek311> As for my programming attempts to learn I had a book on python years ago and have had several sessions of game dev. Only ever made simple or incomplete games lol
[2024-06-11 09:30:20] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| As for my programming attempts to learn I had a book on python years ago and have had several sessions of game dev. Only ever made simple or incomplete games lol
[2024-06-11 09:31:16] <nivek311> I think it was Python for dummies lol. Sounds corny but I was actually learning from it. Didnt use it so i lost it I guess because I couldnt write a simple script today lol
[2024-06-11 09:31:16] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| I think it was Python for dummies lol. Sounds corny but I was actually learning from it. Didnt use it so i lost it I guess because I couldnt write a simple script today lol
[2024-06-11 09:32:06] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Before I started on much practical security stuff I had a lot of theory to learn about networking and the internet and how data moves generally
[2024-06-11 09:32:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Before I started on much practical security stuff I had a lot of theory to learn about networking and the internet and how data moves generally
[2024-06-11 09:32:23] <nivek311> Ya sounds like that would help
[2024-06-11 09:32:23] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Ya sounds like that would help
[2024-06-11 09:32:36] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| You might get value out of learning for example what an API is and what the TCP/IP stack is and how they work together
[2024-06-11 09:32:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| You might get value out of learning for example what an API is and what the TCP/IP stack is and how they work together
[2024-06-11 09:32:43] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| what even is that irc thing ive never even heard of it
[2024-06-11 09:32:43] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| what even is that irc thing ive never even heard of it
[2024-06-11 09:33:10] <nivek311> Well its an old way of instant chat
[2024-06-11 09:33:10] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Well its an old way of instant chat
[2024-06-11 09:33:13] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| it's just a protocol, a rule for the way data is sent
[2024-06-11 09:33:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it's just a protocol, a rule for the way data is sent
[2024-06-11 09:33:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| It stands for internet relay chat
[2024-06-11 09:33:14] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| It stands for internet relay chat
[2024-06-11 09:33:25] <nivek311> The server/channel for armagetron is linked in with discord via a bot
[2024-06-11 09:33:25] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| The server/channel for armagetron is linked in with discord via a bot
[2024-06-11 09:33:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| since its a protocol like HTTP or FTP there's no 1 program and instead offers a way to access chatrooms like this in a decentralised format. Very useful for certain types of individuals
[2024-06-11 09:33:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| since its a protocol like HTTP or FTP there's no 1 program and instead offers a way to access chatrooms like this in a decentralised format. Very useful for certain types of individuals
[2024-06-11 09:34:25] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| what are you actually typingthrough?
[2024-06-11 09:34:25] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| what are you actually typingthrough?
[2024-06-11 09:34:39] <nivek311> well there are mulitiple clients for an irc
[2024-06-11 09:34:39] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| well there are mulitiple clients for an irc
[2024-06-11 09:34:47] <nivek311> right now im using one via my linux terminal
[2024-06-11 09:34:47] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| right now im using one via my linux terminal
[2024-06-11 09:35:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| hexchat is supposed to be quite good
[2024-06-11 09:35:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| hexchat is supposed to be quite good
[2024-06-11 09:35:07] <nivek311> honestly I only set it up because i was rewatching mr robot lolz
[2024-06-11 09:35:08] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| honestly I only set it up because i was rewatching mr robot lolz
[2024-06-11 09:35:13] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| awesome show
[2024-06-11 09:35:13] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| awesome show
[2024-06-11 09:35:18] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| goes a bit crazy towards the end tho
[2024-06-11 09:35:19] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| goes a bit crazy towards the end tho
[2024-06-11 09:35:28] <nivek311> I didnt finish the first time
[2024-06-11 09:35:28] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| I didnt finish the first time
[2024-06-11 09:35:31] <nivek311> no spoilers lolz
[2024-06-11 09:35:31] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| no spoilers lolz
[2024-06-11 09:35:40] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| kk
[2024-06-11 09:35:40] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| kk
[2024-06-11 09:37:46] <nivek311> so Syn what would be an example of finding a programming "problem" to be solved? See I think the issue with me following tutorials is its just regurgitating what im reading/watching. Having something that I need to figure out without a walkthrough would actually teach me something
[2024-06-11 09:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| so Syn what would be an example of finding a programming "problem" to be solved? See I think the issue with me following tutorials is its just regurgitating what im reading/watching. Having something that I need to figure out without a walkthrough would actually teach me something
[2024-06-11 09:38:45] <nivek311> I could just work on actually finishing a game project lol
[2024-06-11 09:38:45] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| I could just work on actually finishing a game project lol
[2024-06-11 09:53:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| The modern classic has to be the todo list
[2024-06-11 09:53:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| The modern classic has to be the todo list
[2024-06-11 09:54:10] <nivek311> program a todo list?
[2024-06-11 09:54:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| It's an awesome project because it scales with complexity as you get more comfortable with it
[2024-06-11 09:54:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| It's an awesome project because it scales with complexity as you get more comfortable with it
[2024-06-11 09:54:11] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| program a todo list?
[2024-06-11 09:54:13] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yep
[2024-06-11 09:54:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yep
[2024-06-11 09:54:19] <nivek311> Interesting
[2024-06-11 09:54:20] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Interesting
[2024-06-11 09:55:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| it comprises all 4 parts of what we call as CRUD architecture for data manipulation
[2024-06-11 09:55:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it comprises all 4 parts of what we call as CRUD architecture for data manipulation
[2024-06-11 09:55:12] <nivek311> probably easy to make stuff like that to run in a command line on linux? A GUI seems like it would be more work
[2024-06-11 09:55:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Create
[2024-06-11 09:55:13] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Create
[2024-06-11 09:55:14] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Read
[2024-06-11 09:55:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Read
[2024-06-11 09:55:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Update
[2024-06-11 09:55:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Update
[2024-06-11 09:55:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Delete
[2024-06-11 09:55:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Delete
[2024-06-11 09:55:18] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| probably easy to make stuff like that to run in a command line on linux? A GUI seems like it would be more work
[2024-06-11 09:55:36] <nivek311> Well I'll put that on my todo list ;)
[2024-06-11 09:55:36] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Well I'll put that on my todo list ;)
[2024-06-11 09:55:41] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| for sure very easy to do on a command line to start with
[2024-06-11 09:55:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| for sure very easy to do on a command line to start with
[2024-06-11 09:56:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| I basically live on the web so it's natural for me to recommend you to build a website with your todo list
[2024-06-11 09:56:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I basically live on the web so it's natural for me to recommend you to build a website with your todo list
[2024-06-11 09:56:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| then you can build it out into a portfolio that you can share etc
[2024-06-11 09:56:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| then you can build it out into a portfolio that you can share etc
[2024-06-11 09:56:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| If you want to look into web development and making websites I would recommend to checkout react
[2024-06-11 09:56:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| If you want to look into web development and making websites I would recommend to checkout react
[2024-06-11 09:57:02] <nivek311> I think using command line applications is fun. Probably just a thing from hacker movies but honestly I enjoy using at my command terminal
[2024-06-11 09:57:02] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| I think using command line applications is fun. Probably just a thing from hacker movies but honestly I enjoy using at my command terminal
[2024-06-11 09:57:16] <nivek311> Wait making a website with the todo list?
[2024-06-11 09:57:16] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Wait making a website with the todo list?
[2024-06-11 09:57:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yep!
[2024-06-11 09:57:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yep!
[2024-06-11 09:57:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but if you wanna use a CLI (command line interface) thats cool too
[2024-06-11 09:57:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but if you wanna use a CLI (command line interface) thats cool too
[2024-06-11 09:57:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| whatever gets you typing out some code first 😉
[2024-06-11 09:57:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| whatever gets you typing out some code first 😉
[2024-06-11 09:57:58] <nivek311> do you mean the todo list would be on a website?
[2024-06-11 09:57:59] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| do you mean the todo list would be on a website?
[2024-06-11 09:58:53] <nivek311> When creating a website from scratch would it be hosted from your home pc or some server service?
[2024-06-11 09:58:54] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| When creating a website from scratch would it be hosted from your home pc or some server service?
[2024-06-11 09:59:26] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| it starts on your home pc then when you're happy with it you'd deploy it to a server somewhere
[2024-06-11 09:59:27] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it starts on your home pc then when you're happy with it you'd deploy it to a server somewhere
[2024-06-11 09:59:38] <nivek311> Ya i see
[2024-06-11 09:59:39] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Ya i see
[2024-06-11 10:01:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but code is just code, once you make it as a command line application its simple to use the same code to make it into a web ui if you're so inclined
[2024-06-11 10:01:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but code is just code, once you make it as a command line application its simple to use the same code to make it into a web ui if you're so inclined
[2024-06-11 10:01:31] <nivek311> That makes sense
[2024-06-11 10:01:31] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| That makes sense
[2024-06-11 10:04:23] <nivek311> Another thing I've always questioned is what language to study and ive seen a lot of answers to that question lol
[2024-06-11 10:04:23] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Another thing I've always questioned is what language to study and ive seen a lot of answers to that question lol
[2024-06-11 10:05:36] <nivek311> I started with python and did some C# on unity and some Gdscript on godot
[2024-06-11 10:05:36] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| I started with python and did some C# on unity and some Gdscript on godot
[2024-06-11 10:06:14] <nivek311> With python i was actually learning the code, with the others i was more learning the game engine, but still coding involved
[2024-06-11 10:06:15] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| With python i was actually learning the code, with the others i was more learning the game engine, but still coding involved
[2024-06-11 10:18:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah its another one of those questions depends on what you're building
[2024-06-11 10:18:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah its another one of those questions depends on what you're building
[2024-06-11 10:19:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| at the entry level just pick whatever you like but as you get higher up the proverbial skill ladder you'll see that some languages are much better for certain applications
[2024-06-11 10:19:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| at the entry level just pick whatever you like but as you get higher up the proverbial skill ladder you'll see that some languages are much better for certain applications
[2024-06-11 10:19:37] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| python is amazing to learn since it has a friendly syntax but it doesn't get much love in professional development outside of scripting/data science
[2024-06-11 10:19:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| python is amazing to learn since it has a friendly syntax but it doesn't get much love in professional development outside of scripting/data science
[2024-06-11 10:20:07] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| it's very hard to build things for the web in a way that makes sense without javascript
[2024-06-11 10:20:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it's very hard to build things for the web in a way that makes sense without javascript
[2024-06-11 10:20:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| and because the web is still expanding at a pretty craze rate javascript is the safest bet for the future and for employment
[2024-06-11 10:20:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| and because the web is still expanding at a pretty craze rate javascript is the safest bet for the future and for employment
[2024-06-11 10:21:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but the OGs around here will tell you that to get real performance and to understand what's going on under the hood of these abstract languages something like a C++ or even a C will teach you all you need to know and more about memory and registers and buffers etc
[2024-06-11 10:21:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but the OGs around here will tell you that to get real performance and to understand what's going on under the hood of these abstract languages something like a C++ or even a C will teach you all you need to know and more about memory and registers and buffers etc
[2024-06-11 10:21:47] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| I build pretty much everything in typescript which is just javascript but with some extra guard rails in the forms of a type system
[2024-06-11 10:21:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I build pretty much everything in typescript which is just javascript but with some extra guard rails in the forms of a type system
[2024-06-11 10:22:29] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| so yeah if you're just going to learn one language and one language only id recommend javascript but that's primarily because that's where I live now lol
[2024-06-11 10:22:29] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| so yeah if you're just going to learn one language and one language only id recommend javascript but that's primarily because that's where I live now lol
[2024-06-11 10:23:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| install node.js and you can run javascript on the command line just like python as well as being able to make websites etc with ease using the latest and greatest frameworks like nextjs remix etc
[2024-06-11 10:23:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| install node.js and you can run javascript on the command line just like python as well as being able to make websites etc with ease using the latest and greatest frameworks like nextjs remix etc
[2024-06-11 10:24:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1250093246894440590/u0b2pzrdx2t01.png?ex=6669af8f&is=66685e0f&hm=1342ef13afdd7a79c63c12458e2bd70652d9b84023e193a81edc277e22689a1d&
[2024-06-11 10:24:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1250093246894440590/u0b2pzrdx2t01.png?ex=6669af8f&is=66685e0f&hm=1342ef13afdd7a79c63c12458e2bd70652d9b84023e193a81edc277e22689a1d&
[2024-06-11 10:25:37] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| dont tell anyone i said this but the framework war is over and react won
[2024-06-11 10:25:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| dont tell anyone i said this but the framework war is over and react won
[2024-06-11 10:26:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| now we build frameworks on top of the framework :bigbrain:
[2024-06-11 10:26:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| now we build frameworks on top of the framework :bigbrain:
[2024-06-11 10:29:31] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just out of curiosity why does it seem that python got left behind? Does it have some limitations but keep people away from it?
[2024-06-11 10:29:31] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just out of curiosity why does it seem that python got left behind? Does it have some limitations but keep people away from it?
[2024-06-11 10:30:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i wouldnt say python get left behind as much as it got specialised
[2024-06-11 10:30:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i wouldnt say python get left behind as much as it got specialised
[2024-06-11 10:30:47] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh yeah I guess I just don't understand the differences between the languages is enough to understand why people pick certain things to do certain things
[2024-06-11 10:30:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh yeah I guess I just don't understand the differences between the languages is enough to understand why people pick certain things to do certain things
[2024-06-11 10:31:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| there are many many answers to that question and a lot of them are conjecture rather than plain fact but from from my pov its mostly because of javascripts dominance in the front end
[2024-06-11 10:31:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| there are many many answers to that question and a lot of them are conjecture rather than plain fact but from from my pov its mostly because of javascripts dominance in the front end
[2024-06-11 10:32:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| its now not so simple to make a website purely with python, you will need html css and maybe even js in there somewhere
[2024-06-11 10:32:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| its now not so simple to make a website purely with python, you will need html css and maybe even js in there somewhere
[2024-06-11 10:32:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| on the other hand js development has kinda exploded so it can pretty much do everything
[2024-06-11 10:32:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| on the other hand js development has kinda exploded so it can pretty much do everything
[2024-06-11 10:32:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| again OGs will get in here and talk about the single threaded nature of these languages and how they are limited in that degree
[2024-06-11 10:32:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| again OGs will get in here and talk about the single threaded nature of these languages and how they are limited in that degree
[2024-06-11 10:32:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but this has affected python more than JS, python used to be (still kinda is) the absolute king for machine learning and data science and what eventually became AI
[2024-06-11 10:32:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but this has affected python more than JS, python used to be (still kinda is) the absolute king for machine learning and data science and what eventually became AI
[2024-06-11 10:33:20] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Interesting
[2024-06-11 10:33:20] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Interesting
[2024-06-11 10:34:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but now with the strict hardware requirements around AI python suffers in the areas of speed because of its high level interpreter and dynamic typing (the thing that makes it easy to read and learn also makes it slow)
[2024-06-11 10:34:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but now with the strict hardware requirements around AI python suffers in the areas of speed because of its high level interpreter and dynamic typing (the thing that makes it easy to read and learn also makes it slow)
[2024-06-11 10:35:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well maybe I'll give some simple in JavaScript a try sometime
[2024-06-11 10:35:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well maybe I'll give some simple in JavaScript a try sometime
[2024-06-11 10:36:45] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| they are basically the same thing as high level languages, theyre both interpreted rather than compiled as well as having dynamic types (until typescript gets involved)
[2024-06-11 10:36:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| they are basically the same thing as high level languages, theyre both interpreted rather than compiled as well as having dynamic types (until typescript gets involved)
[2024-06-11 10:36:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Python:
[2024-06-11 10:36:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Python:
[2024-06-11 10:36:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ```python
[2024-06-11 10:36:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ```python
[2024-06-11 10:36:49] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| # Python
[2024-06-11 10:36:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| # Python
[2024-06-11 10:36:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| name = "John"
[2024-06-11 10:36:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| name = "John"
[2024-06-11 10:36:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| age = 30
[2024-06-11 10:36:52] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| age = 30
[2024-06-11 10:36:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if age >= 18:
[2024-06-11 10:36:53] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if age >= 18:
[2024-06-11 10:36:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| print(name + " is an adult.")
[2024-06-11 10:36:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| print(name + " is an adult.")
[2024-06-11 10:36:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| else:
[2024-06-11 10:36:56] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| else:
[2024-06-11 10:36:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| print(name + " is a minor.")
[2024-06-11 10:36:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| print(name + " is a minor.")
[2024-06-11 10:36:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| for i in range(5):
[2024-06-11 10:36:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| for i in range(5):
[2024-06-11 10:36:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| print("Current value of i:", i)
[2024-06-11 10:37:00] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| print("Current value of i:", i)
[2024-06-11 10:37:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ```
[2024-06-11 10:37:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ```
[2024-06-11 10:37:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| The exact same code in JS
[2024-06-11 10:37:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| The exact same code in JS
[2024-06-11 10:37:03] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ```js
[2024-06-11 10:37:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ```js
[2024-06-11 10:37:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| // JavaScript
[2024-06-11 10:37:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| // JavaScript
[2024-06-11 10:37:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| let name = "John";
[2024-06-11 10:37:06] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| let name = "John";
[2024-06-11 10:37:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| let age = 30;
[2024-06-11 10:37:07] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| let age = 30;
[2024-06-11 10:37:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if (age >= 18) {
[2024-06-11 10:37:09] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if (age >= 18) {
[2024-06-11 10:37:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| console.log(name + " is an adult.");
[2024-06-11 10:37:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| console.log(name + " is an adult.");
[2024-06-11 10:37:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| } else {
[2024-06-11 10:37:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| } else {
[2024-06-11 10:37:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| console.log(name + " is a minor.");
[2024-06-11 10:37:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| console.log(name + " is a minor.");
[2024-06-11 10:37:14] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| }
[2024-06-11 10:37:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| }
[2024-06-11 10:37:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| for (let i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
[2024-06-11 10:37:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| for (let i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
[2024-06-11 10:37:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| console.log("Current value of i:", i);
[2024-06-11 10:37:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| console.log("Current value of i:", i);
[2024-06-11 10:37:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| }
[2024-06-11 10:37:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| }
[2024-06-11 10:37:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ```
[2024-06-11 10:37:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ```
[2024-06-11 10:37:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| just a little bit more syntax in js but nothing compared to what this would look like in c or c++
[2024-06-11 10:37:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| just a little bit more syntax in js but nothing compared to what this would look like in c or c++
[2024-06-11 10:46:35] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yeah that looks manageable specially since my memory on python syntax is foggy anyways lol
[2024-06-11 10:46:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Yeah that looks manageable specially since my memory on python syntax is foggy anyways lol
[2024-06-11 10:47:33] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I guess the general description of JavaScript made it sound like it was mostly just for website stuff and I never really had an interest
[2024-06-11 10:47:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I guess the general description of JavaScript made it sound like it was mostly just for website stuff and I never really had an interest
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[2024-06-11 11:15:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| it is mostly web stuff tbf but these days the web is getting so powerful you can do much more than make a simple website
[2024-06-11 11:15:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it is mostly web stuff tbf but these days the web is getting so powerful you can do much more than make a simple website
[2024-06-11 11:15:47] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| take nelgs armawebtron for example
[2024-06-11 11:15:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| take nelgs armawebtron for example
[2024-06-11 11:16:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://egghunt.merci-michel.com/
[2024-06-11 11:16:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://egghunt.merci-michel.com/
[2024-06-11 11:16:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| easy game creation on the web with threejs
[2024-06-11 11:16:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| easy game creation on the web with threejs
[2024-06-11 11:16:52] <nivek311> Ya I can see the value these days, websites used to be pretty simple and anything fancy was ran through flash lol
[2024-06-11 11:16:53] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Ya I can see the value these days, websites used to be pretty simple and anything fancy was ran through flash lol
[2024-06-11 11:18:42] <nivek311> Lol just tried it, it a very simple game but they went all out making it look good haha
[2024-06-11 11:18:43] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Lol just tried it, it a very simple game but they went all out making it look good haha
[2024-06-11 11:19:35] <nivek311> Can you do like mobile game controls on a web game like that? Im sure you can do keyboard inputs right?
[2024-06-11 11:19:36] <armagetronbridge> 08irc:nivek311| Can you do like mobile game controls on a web game like that? Im sure you can do keyboard inputs right?
[2024-06-11 12:09:49] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| absolutely yep
[2024-06-11 12:09:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| absolutely yep
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[2024-06-11 17:45:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @dorianv https://store.steampowered.com/app/2923300/Banana/
[2024-06-11 17:45:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @dorianv https://store.steampowered.com/app/2923300/Banana/
[2024-06-11 20:02:25] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Bananu!
[2024-06-11 20:02:25] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Bananu!
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[2024-06-12 05:21:58] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @syn_acc so earlier I mentioned that I felt like I hadn't learned much from following step-by-step tutorials and you had mentioned the idea of making it a to-do list application as a beginner challenge. Do you have any suggestions on how I could go about learning to complete that challenge without necessarily following a step by step tutorial? I feel like when I follow the tutori <clipped message>
[2024-06-12 05:21:58] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| als I am simply copying the code and has a type and not really absorbing much understanding even when paying attention to their explanations of the syntax and such things
[2024-06-12 05:21:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @syn_acc so earlier I mentioned that I felt like I hadn't learned much from following step-by-step tutorials and you had mentioned the idea of making it a to-do list application as a beginner challenge. Do you have any suggestions on how I could go about learning to complete that challenge without necessarily following a step by step tutorial? I feel like when I follow the tutori <clipped message>
[2024-06-12 05:21:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| als I am simply copying the code and has a type and not really absorbing much understanding even when paying attention to their explanations of the syntax and such things
[2024-06-12 05:25:23] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I feel like that learning approach is similar to watching a math teacher solve a math problem and just copying down what he writes will that learning and how to solve the equation yourself
[2024-06-12 05:25:23] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I feel like that learning approach is similar to watching a math teacher solve a math problem and just copying down what he writes will that learning and how to solve the equation yourself
[2024-06-12 05:30:50] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| i feel like following a couple tutorials at the very start can be helpful just to get the feel of things, even if you arent doing much of the thinking yourself..
[2024-06-12 05:30:50] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| once you start to understand the premises or principles of how you go about making something, then you can go about making something with no direct tutorial...
[2024-06-12 05:30:50] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| i feel like following a couple tutorials at the very start can be helpful just to get the feel of things, even if you arent doing much of the thinking yourself..
[2024-06-12 05:30:51] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| once you start to understand the premises or principles of how you go about making something, then you can go about making something with no direct tutorial...
[2024-06-12 05:30:51] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| then you would be researching for more specific things, for exmaple if you were trying to make a typeracing game, the first thing you could learn is how to add a text box, then after that how to generate random words to type, then how to change colour of text as you type it to indicate if its done correctly or not.. etc etc
[2024-06-12 05:30:52] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| then you would be researching for more specific things, for exmaple if you were trying to make a typeracing game, the first thing you could learn is how to add a text box, then after that how to generate random words to type, then how to change colour of text as you type it to indicate if its done correctly or not.. etc etc
[2024-06-12 05:30:53] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| after a while of googling and learning small things you will have a working game
[2024-06-12 05:30:54] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| i guess thats how you would start to make stuff without step-by-step tutorials
[2024-06-12 05:30:54] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| after a while of googling and learning small things you will have a working game
[2024-06-12 05:30:55] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| i guess thats how you would start to make stuff without step-by-step tutorials
[2024-06-12 05:30:56] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| sry i know u asked syn but thats my take on it anyway
[2024-06-12 05:30:56] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| sry i know u asked syn but thats my take on it anyway
[2024-06-12 05:35:44] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hey any input is welcome I'm not saying I've never done the step-by-step tutorials I just feel like I'm having a hard time moving past that part I suppose. I do have some game projects that I have gotten through most of the tutorial and then stop there but part of the problem for me when it comes to that is not being able to make my own graffic assets for the game. I can't draw a <clipped message>
[2024-06-12 05:35:44] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hey any input is welcome I'm not saying I've never done the step-by-step tutorials I just feel like I'm having a hard time moving past that part I suppose. I do have some game projects that I have gotten through most of the tutorial and then stop there but part of the problem for me when it comes to that is not being able to make my own graffic assets for the game. I can't draw a <clipped message>
[2024-06-12 05:35:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| nd I'm not artistically creative like that. So I guess my expectation at some point would be for me to learn how to make simple programs unassisted but maybe I'm just expecting silly things
[2024-06-12 05:35:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| nd I'm not artistically creative like that. So I guess my expectation at some point would be for me to learn how to make simple programs unassisted but maybe I'm just expecting silly things
[2024-06-12 05:40:19] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| there are royalty free game assets and vectors out there for anyone to use i think, you dont have to be a jack of all trades
[2024-06-12 05:40:20] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| there are royalty free game assets and vectors out there for anyone to use i think, you dont have to be a jack of all trades
[2024-06-12 05:40:20] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| just set your goal for something, and tackle it step by step.. firstly a main menu and so forth.. think logically about what the next step is, and google it
[2024-06-12 05:40:21] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| just set your goal for something, and tackle it step by step.. firstly a main menu and so forth.. think logically about what the next step is, and google it
[2024-06-12 05:40:22] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| but there are definetly better people to ask than me about this stuff
[2024-06-12 05:40:22] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| but there are definetly better people to ask than me about this stuff
[2024-06-12 05:40:57] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| The only problem with trying to use asset packs is they don't always fit together well but yes I am aware
[2024-06-12 05:40:57] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| The only problem with trying to use asset packs is they don't always fit together well but yes I am aware
[2024-06-12 05:41:47] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I continue on a game Dev project I'll probably just focus on the mechanics and workings of it and potentially consider outsourcing for the graphics or partnering with someone who would like to develop it with me as lead artist
[2024-06-12 05:41:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I continue on a game Dev project I'll probably just focus on the mechanics and workings of it and potentially consider outsourcing for the graphics or partnering with someone who would like to develop it with me as lead artist
[2024-06-12 05:48:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But to be fair to your point I definitely could improve my skills by continuing a game Dev project rather than trying to learn more general programming
[2024-06-12 05:48:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But to be fair to your point I definitely could improve my skills by continuing a game Dev project rather than trying to learn more general programming
[2024-06-12 06:05:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Absolutely I do have suggestions!
[2024-06-12 06:05:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Absolutely I do have suggestions!
[2024-06-12 06:05:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| First things first, your approach is fantastic. Many people will fail to follow this path out of a fear of failure, that is, a fear to ask question and be perceived as “not knowing”, and a great attribute you’re already demonstrating is not showcasing that fear of failure and therefore a fear of feedback.
[2024-06-12 06:05:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| First things first, your approach is fantastic. Many people will fail to follow this path out of a fear of failure, that is, a fear to ask question and be perceived as “not knowing”, and a great attribute you’re already demonstrating is not showcasing that fear of failure and therefore a fear of feedback.
[2024-06-12 06:05:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| So onto the suggestions, in any project you’re going to start with 1 big question, 1 unknown that if you could solve would solve all the problems beneath that. For you, now, that question might be something like
[2024-06-12 06:05:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| So onto the suggestions, in any project you’re going to start with 1 big question, 1 unknown that if you could solve would solve all the problems beneath that. For you, now, that question might be something like
[2024-06-12 06:05:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| “How can I make a todo list in javascript?”
[2024-06-12 06:05:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| “How can I make a todo list in javascript?”
[2024-06-12 06:05:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Break the question down. Whilst there may be just 1 we start with, there will be many you need to answer on the way, each one providing you a step with which you can get closer to the original question.
[2024-06-12 06:05:36] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Break the question down. Whilst there may be just 1 we start with, there will be many you need to answer on the way, each one providing you a step with which you can get closer to the original question.
[2024-06-12 06:05:38] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| So breaking our original question into more fundamental questions is always a good start:
[2024-06-12 06:05:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| So breaking our original question into more fundamental questions is always a good start:
[2024-06-12 06:05:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| “What is a todo list?”
[2024-06-12 06:05:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| “What is a todo list?”
[2024-06-12 06:05:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| “What is javascript?”
[2024-06-12 06:05:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| “What is javascript?”
[2024-06-12 06:05:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Simple questions on the surface but with a bit of introspection can illuminate a lot of the journey.
[2024-06-12 06:05:42] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Simple questions on the surface but with a bit of introspection can illuminate a lot of the journey.
[2024-06-12 06:05:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| For example, to the answer of “what is a todo list” an easy simple answer could just be “data”, then you can go again; “what is data?” “what sort of data is a todo list made out of?”
[2024-06-12 06:05:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| For example, to the answer of “what is a todo list” an easy simple answer could just be “data”, then you can go again; “what is data?” “what sort of data is a todo list made out of?”
[2024-06-12 06:05:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Following this process you will eventually find a bunch of answers you know, and a bunch you don’t. Then it’s on you to find the answers, learn the answers. The more you’ve broken down the question, the simpler the answers, the easier they are to remember, and therefore reproduce
[2024-06-12 06:05:44] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Following this process you will eventually find a bunch of answers you know, and a bunch you don’t. Then it’s on you to find the answers, learn the answers. The more you’ve broken down the question, the simpler the answers, the easier they are to remember, and therefore reproduce
[2024-06-12 06:05:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Then reproduction becomes synonymous with creation and before you know it, you’re doing it without even following this analytical process. That’s where the fun begins.
[2024-06-12 06:05:45] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Then reproduction becomes synonymous with creation and before you know it, you’re doing it without even following this analytical process. That’s where the fun begins.
[2024-06-12 06:09:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Something I quite like is starting out with a "do as I do" exercise. It's the approach that the Head First books do - you get something to basically copy out in order to build an application, getting a little bit of minor explanation alongside the process. I think the idea is to push the reward concept.
[2024-06-12 06:09:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Something I quite like is starting out with a "do as I do" exercise. It's the approach that the Head First books do - you get something to basically copy out in order to build an application, getting a little bit of minor explanation alongside the process. I think the idea is to push the reward concept.
[2024-06-12 06:09:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Then you start getting in to the nitty gritty, and because you've already built something, shit starts popping out and you're like "huh, ya, this is why that works". That whole approach is probably a big part of why I learnt basic C# in like, two or three months and was hand coding my own shitty web applications at six months in
[2024-06-12 06:09:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Then you start getting in to the nitty gritty, and because you've already built something, shit starts popping out and you're like "huh, ya, this is why that works". That whole approach is probably a big part of why I learnt basic C# in like, two or three months and was hand coding my own shitty web applications at six months in
[2024-06-12 06:10:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| th eonly caveat is that you can easily pick up errible habits along the way. Which of course, I have :D
[2024-06-12 06:10:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| th eonly caveat is that you can easily pick up errible habits along the way. Which of course, I have :D
[2024-06-12 06:11:04] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| There’s a very powerful notion that you can leverage with the thought “I’m doing this, and it’s working, but i’m not sure how or why”
[2024-06-12 06:11:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| There’s a very powerful notion that you can leverage with the thought “I’m doing this, and it’s working, but i’m not sure how or why”
[2024-06-12 06:11:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| A fork in the road, follow it and gain an understanding of the underlying principles, or ignore it and see where your road takes you without that underlying knowledge. You’ll find a lot of stuff you don’t need to know, it just “is”
[2024-06-12 06:11:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| A fork in the road, follow it and gain an understanding of the underlying principles, or ignore it and see where your road takes you without that underlying knowledge. You’ll find a lot of stuff you don’t need to know, it just “is”
[2024-06-12 06:12:46] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Syn have you ever looked at the head first books? That's kinda exactly their approach, ots of "side quests" as it were. Honestly I learned more using those books than I ever did with any other approach
[2024-06-12 06:12:46] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Syn have you ever looked at the head first books? That's kinda exactly their approach, ots of "side quests" as it were. Honestly I learned more using those books than I ever did with any other approach
[2024-06-12 06:13:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| At one point I thought about going to university as a mature student, to the point I actually started the college entry route. They tried to deliver these lessons on basic OOP concepts like what an object is... and it was absolutely terrible
[2024-06-12 06:13:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| At one point I thought about going to university as a mature student, to the point I actually started the college entry route. They tried to deliver these lessons on basic OOP concepts like what an object is... and it was absolutely terrible
[2024-06-12 06:13:44] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| I haven't heard of those
[2024-06-12 06:13:44] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I haven't heard of those
[2024-06-12 06:13:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| haad on a sec
[2024-06-12 06:13:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| haad on a sec
[2024-06-12 06:14:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| have a deeks at this https://github.com/head-first-csharp/fourth-edition
[2024-06-12 06:14:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| have a deeks at this https://github.com/head-first-csharp/fourth-edition
[2024-06-12 06:14:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| oo
[2024-06-12 06:14:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| oo
[2024-06-12 06:14:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I started wth... I wanna say the first edition? Donkeys ago now, but the apporach is basically the same
[2024-06-12 06:14:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I started wth... I wanna say the first edition? Donkeys ago now, but the apporach is basically the same
[2024-06-12 06:18:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hm. I think I preferred the game that was in the earlier editions ngl, it was a side scroller that felt a bit like those old invasion games
[2024-06-12 06:18:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hm. I think I preferred the game that was in the earlier editions ngl, it was a side scroller that felt a bit like those old invasion games
[2024-06-12 06:19:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| doesn't really matter tbf, I'm just finding something to grumble about
[2024-06-12 06:19:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| doesn't really matter tbf, I'm just finding something to grumble about
[2024-06-12 06:24:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| tbh learning generally is something of a transferrable skill as long as you're doing it right
[2024-06-12 06:24:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| tbh learning generally is something of a transferrable skill as long as you're doing it right
[2024-06-12 06:24:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| doesn't really matter what you're learning as long as you're present enough to extract the novelty wherever it may be
[2024-06-12 06:24:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| doesn't really matter what you're learning as long as you're present enough to extract the novelty wherever it may be
[2024-06-12 06:56:01] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I like the concept of breaking a question down into smaller questions
[2024-06-12 06:56:01] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I like the concept of breaking a question down into smaller questions
[2024-06-12 06:57:40] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now if only I had a handy to-do list to keep track of all these questions...
[2024-06-12 06:57:40] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now if only I had a handy to-do list to keep track of all these questions...
[2024-06-12 07:00:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Whats a to-do list?
[2024-06-12 07:00:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Whats a to-do list?
[2024-06-12 07:00:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| :D
[2024-06-12 07:00:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| :D
[2024-06-12 07:02:21] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Where you list important things to do so that you can ignore them all in one place iirc
[2024-06-12 07:02:21] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Where you list important things to do so that you can ignore them all in one place iirc
[2024-06-12 07:02:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ouch, that one was personal
[2024-06-12 07:02:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ouch, that one was personal
[2024-06-12 07:02:53] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| 🤣
[2024-06-12 07:02:53] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| 🤣
[2024-06-12 07:08:43] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I get past the part of making a to-do list I can make an application that organized the whole question breakdown concept
[2024-06-12 07:08:44] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I get past the part of making a to-do list I can make an application that organized the whole question breakdown concept
[2024-06-12 07:18:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| fire
[2024-06-12 07:18:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| fire
[2024-06-12 07:19:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| a core concept to get your head around early is that of a dependency
[2024-06-12 07:19:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| a core concept to get your head around early is that of a dependency
[2024-06-12 07:20:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| so that you dont spend a lot of time trying to solve an already solved problem
[2024-06-12 07:20:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| so that you dont spend a lot of time trying to solve an already solved problem
[2024-06-12 07:23:12] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So I have a big idea of what dependencies are what exactly is it that I should be looking for?
[2024-06-12 07:23:12] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So I have a big idea of what dependencies are what exactly is it that I should be looking for?
[2024-06-12 07:23:37] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| how do you leverage them in different environments
[2024-06-12 07:23:37] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| how do you leverage them in different environments
[2024-06-12 07:23:56] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| for example in python the name of the game is pip, in javascript (node) its npm
[2024-06-12 07:23:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| for example in python the name of the game is pip, in javascript (node) its npm
[2024-06-12 07:24:13] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| can you operate npm or pip to install and use a dependency in your code?
[2024-06-12 07:24:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| can you operate npm or pip to install and use a dependency in your code?
[2024-06-12 07:26:36] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| maybe the better question is what even is npm, pip, what do they stand for?
[2024-06-12 07:26:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| maybe the better question is what even is npm, pip, what do they stand for?
[2024-06-12 07:29:40] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ok, guess I should strengthen my understanding of dependencies in general then lol
[2024-06-12 07:29:40] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ok, guess I should strengthen my understanding of dependencies in general then lol
[2024-06-12 07:31:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah it was a trip for me to go through
[2024-06-12 07:31:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah it was a trip for me to go through
[2024-06-12 07:31:47] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| generally realising that most of the code i will ever need has actually already been written
[2024-06-12 07:31:47] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| generally realising that most of the code i will ever need has actually already been written
[2024-06-12 07:31:51] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i just have to put it in the order i want
[2024-06-12 07:31:51] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i just have to put it in the order i want
[2024-06-12 08:03:25] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So earlier I was checking out what different languages are used for and why to maybe narrow down what would interest me most Java is a tempting one since its compatible with all OS and Android and is designed for making full fledged software applications. Of course another interest of mine is automation scripts but a lot of those ideas would be well suited for Android, so althoug <clipped message>
[2024-06-12 08:03:25] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So earlier I was checking out what different languages are used for and why to maybe narrow down what would interest me most Java is a tempting one since its compatible with all OS and Android and is designed for making full fledged software applications. Of course another interest of mine is automation scripts but a lot of those ideas would be well suited for Android, so althoug <clipped message>
[2024-06-12 08:03:26] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| h something like Python is normally used on a PC Java seems the right one for Android stuff. Of course I could just go the JavaScript route and make web apps that can be accessible from any system and possibly from anywhere. I found it interesting to find out JavaScript sorta ripped the name off Java and that the two aren't related at all lol
[2024-06-12 08:03:26] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| h something like Python is normally used on a PC Java seems the right one for Android stuff. Of course I could just go the JavaScript route and make web apps that can be accessible from any system and possibly from anywhere. I found it interesting to find out JavaScript sorta ripped the name off Java and that the two aren't related at all lol
[2024-06-12 08:06:09] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| common misconception is that java and javascript have any technical relation
[2024-06-12 08:06:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| common misconception is that java and javascript have any technical relation
[2024-06-12 08:06:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| One thing that kind of makes it hard choice for me is that there isn't one language that's great for all the things I want to be able to do. Even though as I understand it some languages can do anything you want it too but will have different means of reaching the end
[2024-06-12 08:06:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| One thing that kind of makes it hard choice for me is that there isn't one language that's great for all the things I want to be able to do. Even though as I understand it some languages can do anything you want it too but will have different means of reaching the end
[2024-06-12 08:07:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| java makes it hard to build things quickly in my limited experience. powerful language but a lot of boilerplate required to get it started out of the box
[2024-06-12 08:07:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| java makes it hard to build things quickly in my limited experience. powerful language but a lot of boilerplate required to get it started out of the box
[2024-06-12 08:07:31] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That's essentially exactly what I've heard
[2024-06-12 08:07:31] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That's essentially exactly what I've heard
[2024-06-12 08:07:43] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That and for some things like doing an automation script the compiling process takes longer for it to run
[2024-06-12 08:07:44] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That and for some things like doing an automation script the compiling process takes longer for it to run
[2024-06-12 08:08:01] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So it sounds great for larger software projects but not so much for small simple quick things
[2024-06-12 08:08:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So it sounds great for larger software projects but not so much for small simple quick things
[2024-06-12 08:08:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah so it used to be something youd learn early in your computing career is the difference between compiled languages and interpreted languages
[2024-06-12 08:08:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah so it used to be something youd learn early in your computing career is the difference between compiled languages and interpreted languages
[2024-06-12 08:08:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| its less of a thing these days since you dont really need to know what goes on under the hood as much
[2024-06-12 08:08:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| its less of a thing these days since you dont really need to know what goes on under the hood as much
[2024-06-12 08:09:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but its good to know that most languages are compiled (theres a step between writing and running) whereas javascript and python are interpreted (each line is read as is line by line and executed)
[2024-06-12 08:09:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but its good to know that most languages are compiled (theres a step between writing and running) whereas javascript and python are interpreted (each line is read as is line by line and executed)
[2024-06-12 08:09:30] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Can't believe it or not I actually have some understanding of that already
[2024-06-12 08:09:30] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Can't believe it or not I actually have some understanding of that already
[2024-06-12 08:09:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| so that compilation step is present in other popular languages like java, c++, c#, go, rust, and more
[2024-06-12 08:09:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| so that compilation step is present in other popular languages like java, c++, c#, go, rust, and more
[2024-06-12 08:10:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I've had some experience with the difference working with game Dev versus working with Python scripts
[2024-06-12 08:10:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I've had some experience with the difference working with game Dev versus working with Python scripts
[2024-06-12 08:10:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| and at least personally thats why i use javascript and python mainly for quick scripts
[2024-06-12 08:10:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| and at least personally thats why i use javascript and python mainly for quick scripts
[2024-06-12 08:10:19] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| oh nice yeah handy knowledge
[2024-06-12 08:10:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| oh nice yeah handy knowledge
[2024-06-12 08:11:10] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| In an ideal world it sounds like the best approach would be to learn it how to do all the different languages so that way you can apply the right language to the right purpose, alternatively in an ideal world they would just make one language that can do it all as easily as writing in plain English lol
[2024-06-12 08:11:10] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| In an ideal world it sounds like the best approach would be to learn it how to do all the different languages so that way you can apply the right language to the right purpose, alternatively in an ideal world they would just make one language that can do it all as easily as writing in plain English lol
[2024-06-12 08:11:53] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That being said and the world we have now it does seem like it could definitely be a plus two at least have a couple of different languages that can be used for different purposes under your belt
[2024-06-12 08:11:53] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That being said and the world we have now it does seem like it could definitely be a plus two at least have a couple of different languages that can be used for different purposes under your belt
[2024-06-12 08:12:18] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Or maybe even three let's say if I learn JavaScript Java and python then that would pretty much cover all of my needs
[2024-06-12 08:12:19] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Or maybe even three let's say if I learn JavaScript Java and python then that would pretty much cover all of my needs
[2024-06-12 08:12:32] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But that's getting ahead of myself I really should just learn one thing at a time
[2024-06-12 08:12:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But that's getting ahead of myself I really should just learn one thing at a time
[2024-06-12 08:12:46] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That can be sometimes my downfall is wanting to start a new project or idea before I finished the last one
[2024-06-12 08:12:46] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That can be sometimes my downfall is wanting to start a new project or idea before I finished the last one
[2024-06-12 08:12:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| For sure, me too
[2024-06-12 08:12:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| For sure, me too
[2024-06-12 08:13:13] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| As we discussed yesterday what tends to work best for people is to learn the thing as you need the thing
[2024-06-12 08:13:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| As we discussed yesterday what tends to work best for people is to learn the thing as you need the thing
[2024-06-12 08:14:13] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| I wouldnt learn multiple languages simultaneously, unless you plan to write in both of them simultaneously. Just with competitive games, it's usually more beneficial to focus on one thing, get comfortable with it, and then branch out to other options
[2024-06-12 08:14:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I wouldnt learn multiple languages simultaneously, unless you plan to write in both of them simultaneously. Just with competitive games, it's usually more beneficial to focus on one thing, get comfortable with it, and then branch out to other options
[2024-06-12 08:14:18] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| One approach I could take with this idea is let's say I make it to do list and python then learn how to do it in JavaScript and then learn how to do it in Java and perhaps along the journey I will better learn their differences and what I do and don't like
[2024-06-12 08:14:18] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| One approach I could take with this idea is let's say I make it to do list and python then learn how to do it in JavaScript and then learn how to do it in Java and perhaps along the journey I will better learn their differences and what I do and don't like
[2024-06-12 08:14:39] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| The python version could be a simple script and the JavaScript version could be a simple web page and the Java version could maybe be a mobile app or just a simple desktop app with a UI
[2024-06-12 08:14:40] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| The python version could be a simple script and the JavaScript version could be a simple web page and the Java version could maybe be a mobile app or just a simple desktop app with a UI
[2024-06-12 08:14:46] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| a great project and idea
[2024-06-12 08:14:46] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| a great project and idea
[2024-06-12 08:15:24] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| they all exist in the same kinda plane though where the simplest thing to build is just a script with no ui
[2024-06-12 08:15:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| they all exist in the same kinda plane though where the simplest thing to build is just a script with no ui
[2024-06-12 08:15:42] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ya makes sense
[2024-06-12 08:15:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ya makes sense
[2024-06-12 08:15:50] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That's always probably a good place to start with all three of them
[2024-06-12 08:15:50] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That's always probably a good place to start with all three of them
[2024-06-12 08:15:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| indeed
[2024-06-12 08:15:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| indeed
[2024-06-12 08:16:26] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| building a web ui is possible in all 3 of those languages as well as building a mobile app or desktop app
[2024-06-12 08:16:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| building a web ui is possible in all 3 of those languages as well as building a mobile app or desktop app
[2024-06-12 08:16:30] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But I think the difference is really appear after you've advanced from there like I said for instance Java would be the way to go for an Android app and JavaScript would be the way to go for a website although as far as I can tell python would be best suited to simply run scripts I guess
[2024-06-12 08:16:31] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But I think the difference is really appear after you've advanced from there like I said for instance Java would be the way to go for an Android app and JavaScript would be the way to go for a website although as far as I can tell python would be best suited to simply run scripts I guess
[2024-06-12 08:16:37] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Although I could be under selling python somewhere along that line of thought
[2024-06-12 08:16:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Although I could be under selling python somewhere along that line of thought
[2024-06-12 08:16:53] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| this is a very optimised way of looking at things
[2024-06-12 08:16:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| this is a very optimised way of looking at things
[2024-06-12 08:17:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| youd happily develop ios apps and android apps in javascript for years before learning why someone would ever pick java/swift
[2024-06-12 08:17:12] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| youd happily develop ios apps and android apps in javascript for years before learning why someone would ever pick java/swift
[2024-06-12 08:17:31] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hmm interesting
[2024-06-12 08:17:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hmm interesting
[2024-06-12 08:18:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if i asked you to tell me why java is preferred for android over javascript the answer isnt obvious until you start learning about frameworks and native apis and service providers
[2024-06-12 08:18:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if i asked you to tell me why java is preferred for android over javascript the answer isnt obvious until you start learning about frameworks and native apis and service providers
[2024-06-12 08:18:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Could you practically use JavaScript to write desktop applications rather than web apps?
[2024-06-12 08:18:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Could you practically use JavaScript to write desktop applications rather than web apps?
[2024-06-12 08:18:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| we are talking right now in a desktop app written in javascript
[2024-06-12 08:18:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we are talking right now in a desktop app written in javascript
[2024-06-12 08:18:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| assuming you have discord app and not using the website
[2024-06-12 08:18:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| assuming you have discord app and not using the website
[2024-06-12 08:18:47] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well for my initial understanding so far Java is better integrated for Android development? Or rather was Android developed in a way to accommodate Java better than others I don't know something like that?
[2024-06-12 08:18:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well for my initial understanding so far Java is better integrated for Android development? Or rather was Android developed in a way to accommodate Java better than others I don't know something like that?
[2024-06-12 08:19:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ah interesting
[2024-06-12 08:19:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ah interesting
[2024-06-12 08:19:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| androids primary API is built in java so technically under the hood you dont have a choice if you want to use the absolute latest features
[2024-06-12 08:19:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| androids primary API is built in java so technically under the hood you dont have a choice if you want to use the absolute latest features
[2024-06-12 08:19:58] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So would it be arguable to simply stick with a programming language that you know well and apply it to different applications rather than seeking to learn different languages optimized for specific purposes? Or is that just a whole debate?
[2024-06-12 08:19:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So would it be arguable to simply stick with a programming language that you know well and apply it to different applications rather than seeking to learn different languages optimized for specific purposes? Or is that just a whole debate?
[2024-06-12 08:20:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah absolutely i would recommend that until you run into problems that illuminate why one would ever change languages for different technologies
[2024-06-12 08:20:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah absolutely i would recommend that until you run into problems that illuminate why one would ever change languages for different technologies
[2024-06-12 08:20:52] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| using java just because they said to as opposed to using it because you know its what you need is kinda lame
[2024-06-12 08:20:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| using java just because they said to as opposed to using it because you know its what you need is kinda lame
[2024-06-12 08:22:03] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That probably makes it more practical to learn that way anyways. No need to learn the primary language of every country you visit on world tour if your primary language will get you through most interactions without a big fuss
[2024-06-12 08:22:03] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That probably makes it more practical to learn that way anyways. No need to learn the primary language of every country you visit on world tour if your primary language will get you through most interactions without a big fuss
[2024-06-12 08:22:14] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| facts
[2024-06-12 08:22:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| facts
[2024-06-12 08:22:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| no issue no problem
[2024-06-12 08:22:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| no issue no problem
[2024-06-12 08:22:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| javascript is definitely the english of the modern world
[2024-06-12 08:22:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| javascript is definitely the english of the modern world
[2024-06-12 08:23:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| its just everywhere, but its not exactly pretty or logical
[2024-06-12 08:23:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| its just everywhere, but its not exactly pretty or logical
[2024-06-12 08:23:35] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| it won because of complicated historical reasons
[2024-06-12 08:23:35] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| it won because of complicated historical reasons
[2024-06-12 08:24:07] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well considering I'm most familiar with Python (and gdscript in Godot is considered python like, and my near future game dev work will probably be with Godot.) then maybe I'll continue with that
[2024-06-12 08:24:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well considering I'm most familiar with Python (and gdscript in Godot is considered python like, and my near future game dev work will probably be with Godot.) then maybe I'll continue with that
[2024-06-12 08:24:42] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| From what I hear you can even use it for web pages and Android applications
[2024-06-12 08:24:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| From what I hear you can even use it for web pages and Android applications
[2024-06-12 08:24:52] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think one of the only things I've seen it not recommended for was maybe high-end video games
[2024-06-12 08:24:53] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think one of the only things I've seen it not recommended for was maybe high-end video games
[2024-06-12 08:25:03] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But everybody uses a game engine for that anyways and of course none of them natively use python
[2024-06-12 08:25:03] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But everybody uses a game engine for that anyways and of course none of them natively use python
[2024-06-12 08:26:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I remember correctly that goes back to the compiled versus interpreted thing for why python is supposed to be slower running with something like a high-end video game or something like it being a "high level" program language compared to C
[2024-06-12 08:26:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If I remember correctly that goes back to the compiled versus interpreted thing for why python is supposed to be slower running with something like a high-end video game or something like it being a "high level" program language compared to C
[2024-06-12 08:26:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I don't remember which
[2024-06-12 08:26:46] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I don't remember which
[2024-06-12 08:28:41] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But you are definitely selling the JavaScript route well, but would it be unwise to focus Python for general purpose programming?
[2024-06-12 08:28:41] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But you are definitely selling the JavaScript route well, but would it be unwise to focus Python for general purpose programming?
[2024-06-12 08:30:03] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| hard to really define what general purpose programming is
[2024-06-12 08:30:04] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| hard to really define what general purpose programming is
[2024-06-12 08:30:29] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Right, that's the hard part of picking one I suppose
[2024-06-12 08:30:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Right, that's the hard part of picking one I suppose
[2024-06-12 08:30:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if thats mostly going to be in the realms of script and automations then python is a fantastic tool if you're looking for a one size fits all
[2024-06-12 08:30:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if thats mostly going to be in the realms of script and automations then python is a fantastic tool if you're looking for a one size fits all
[2024-06-12 08:31:05] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I guess lacking vision in my programming dream is a thing
[2024-06-12 08:31:05] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I guess lacking vision in my programming dream is a thing
[2024-06-12 08:31:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ive just found that at least personally most of the things i build i end up wanting a ui so i can click around and have things react to my actions, i think thats why i like js so much because the html/css ecosystem is so well developed
[2024-06-12 08:31:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ive just found that at least personally most of the things i build i end up wanting a ui so i can click around and have things react to my actions, i think thats why i like js so much because the html/css ecosystem is so well developed
[2024-06-12 08:31:28] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but everything you said holds a lot of truth
[2024-06-12 08:31:28] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but everything you said holds a lot of truth
[2024-06-12 08:31:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| especially around the python interpreted + dynamic typing makes it high level so lots of overhead so slow for incredible demanding/optimised systems
[2024-06-12 08:31:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| especially around the python interpreted + dynamic typing makes it high level so lots of overhead so slow for incredible demanding/optimised systems
[2024-06-12 08:32:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but with that requirement of being demanding/optimised id wager youd be able to do 3d game development in python for a long time before you notice these constraints personally
[2024-06-12 08:32:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but with that requirement of being demanding/optimised id wager youd be able to do 3d game development in python for a long time before you notice these constraints personally
[2024-06-12 08:32:49] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly one of my favorite UI systems is the ones where specific keys on the keyboard do specific actions rather than clicking with a mouse but for user friendly these days if you can't click it with the mouse then it's broken (looking at you armagetron)
[2024-06-12 08:32:49] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly one of my favorite UI systems is the ones where specific keys on the keyboard do specific actions rather than clicking with a mouse but for user friendly these days if you can't click it with the mouse then it's broken (looking at you armagetron)
[2024-06-12 08:33:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| many of my IRL friends have been primarily motivated by changing their financial situations by aquiring new skills
[2024-06-12 08:33:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| many of my IRL friends have been primarily motivated by changing their financial situations by aquiring new skills
[2024-06-12 08:33:36] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I could definitely use a bigger pay check...
[2024-06-12 08:33:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I could definitely use a bigger pay check...
[2024-06-12 08:33:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| in that vein its easy for me to violently recommend javascript because web developers are the quickest to market from 0 by a good margin
[2024-06-12 08:33:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| in that vein its easy for me to violently recommend javascript because web developers are the quickest to market from 0 by a good margin
[2024-06-12 08:34:12] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if you do a simple job search in your area for javascript developers vs any other language id bet money that the javascript jobs dwarf the other jobs in terms of how many positions are available
[2024-06-12 08:34:13] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if you do a simple job search in your area for javascript developers vs any other language id bet money that the javascript jobs dwarf the other jobs in terms of how many positions are available
[2024-06-12 08:34:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but that says nothing about the peaks of course. highest paid dev probably isnt using javascript
[2024-06-12 08:34:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but that says nothing about the peaks of course. highest paid dev probably isnt using javascript
[2024-06-12 08:35:00] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I also don't want to fall into the idea that I'm guaranteed to make money if I learn how to program, seems it's becoming a competitive field more and more, especially with AI programming programs now too, of course no experience so idk
[2024-06-12 08:35:01] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I also don't want to fall into the idea that I'm guaranteed to make money if I learn how to program, seems it's becoming a competitive field more and more, especially with AI programming programs now too, of course no experience so idk
[2024-06-12 08:35:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| probably using cobol lol
[2024-06-12 08:35:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| probably using cobol lol
[2024-06-12 08:35:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| you are guaranteed a reward if you create something
[2024-06-12 08:35:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you are guaranteed a reward if you create something
[2024-06-12 08:35:45] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| maybe the something is an app in a new language and maybe the reward is money but also maybe not
[2024-06-12 08:35:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| maybe the something is an app in a new language and maybe the reward is money but also maybe not
[2024-06-12 08:35:58] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| There's a lot of failing indie game devs that might have something to say about that...
[2024-06-12 08:35:58] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| There's a lot of failing indie game devs that might have something to say about that...
[2024-06-12 08:36:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| maybe for a while your reward will just be the pride of accomplishment. good to be happy with that
[2024-06-12 08:36:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| maybe for a while your reward will just be the pride of accomplishment. good to be happy with that
[2024-06-12 08:36:33] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now there's a point about the pride thing I think that if I had been a developer of armagedron I would still be giddy about the fact that it's still being played 25 years later and loved the way it has been
[2024-06-12 08:36:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now there's a point about the pride thing I think that if I had been a developer of armagedron I would still be giddy about the fact that it's still being played 25 years later and loved the way it has been
[2024-06-12 08:38:25] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now that you make me think back on it if I remember correctly that was one of the cons of python is that there's not a lot of people specifically seeking python developers am I correct?
[2024-06-12 08:38:25] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now that you make me think back on it if I remember correctly that was one of the cons of python is that there's not a lot of people specifically seeking python developers am I correct?
[2024-06-12 08:39:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| kinda yeah due to the main applications of advanced python mostly being in academic contexts
[2024-06-12 08:39:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| kinda yeah due to the main applications of advanced python mostly being in academic contexts
[2024-06-12 08:39:26] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but there are plenty of python jobs
[2024-06-12 08:39:26] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but there are plenty of python jobs
[2024-06-12 08:39:36] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| we're just drowning in web developer jobs comparatively
[2024-06-12 08:39:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we're just drowning in web developer jobs comparatively
[2024-06-12 08:39:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| this is really it though and is what everyday i get to be thankful for about this line of work
[2024-06-12 08:39:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| this is really it though and is what everyday i get to be thankful for about this line of work
[2024-06-12 08:40:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| knowing that people are actually using/utilising/maybe even enjoying something you've created is a certain kind of magic
[2024-06-12 08:40:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| knowing that people are actually using/utilising/maybe even enjoying something you've created is a certain kind of magic
[2024-06-12 08:42:28] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Personally I'm motivationally challenged and find it hard to feel proud just for accomplishing something for the sake of it but that would be cool. Hear someone mention their favorite app/game is the one you made
[2024-06-12 08:42:28] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Personally I'm motivationally challenged and find it hard to feel proud just for accomplishing something for the sake of it but that would be cool. Hear someone mention their favorite app/game is the one you made
[2024-06-12 08:46:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| tbh pride is a sin
[2024-06-12 08:46:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| tbh pride is a sin
[2024-06-12 08:47:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| and in general its probably better to not be proud just for accompishing something
[2024-06-12 08:47:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| and in general its probably better to not be proud just for accompishing something
[2024-06-12 08:47:22] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but a lot of people need some form of motivation to keep going and so it can be some kinda source
[2024-06-12 08:47:22] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but a lot of people need some form of motivation to keep going and so it can be some kinda source
[2024-06-12 08:47:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but yeah i find much more practical sources of motivation is in the form of direct feedback
[2024-06-12 08:47:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but yeah i find much more practical sources of motivation is in the form of direct feedback
[2024-06-12 08:47:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| either you using it and realising it could be better if it did x or y or one of your users giving you that
[2024-06-12 08:47:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| either you using it and realising it could be better if it did x or y or one of your users giving you that
[2024-06-12 08:48:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i do a lot of talks with my team at work about development philosophy and the interface between product and engineering. simple but really not so simple stuff
[2024-06-12 08:48:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i do a lot of talks with my team at work about development philosophy and the interface between product and engineering. simple but really not so simple stuff
[2024-06-12 08:49:47] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think pride can be two different things. Like unhealthy pride vs healthy pride. Like you can be proud you won a game and be a good sport about it or you can be like a particular round fruit that grows on trees...
[2024-06-12 08:49:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think pride can be two different things. Like unhealthy pride vs healthy pride. Like you can be proud you won a game and be a good sport about it or you can be like a particular round fruit that grows on trees...
[2024-06-12 08:50:42] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah but in the endgame pride only functions to inhibit growth
[2024-06-12 08:50:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yeah but in the endgame pride only functions to inhibit growth
[2024-06-12 08:51:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| as soon as you take your eye off the ball to say "yeah i did it" you have lost the progress you could have in that time
[2024-06-12 08:51:19] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| as soon as you take your eye off the ball to say "yeah i did it" you have lost the progress you could have in that time
[2024-06-12 08:51:32] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| but ofc this is not practical in our day to day lives
[2024-06-12 08:51:32] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| but ofc this is not practical in our day to day lives
[2024-06-12 08:51:36] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| you gotta find meaning somewhere
[2024-06-12 08:51:36] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you gotta find meaning somewhere
[2024-06-12 08:52:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ya everything is a give and take and balance is often the key
[2024-06-12 08:52:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ya everything is a give and take and balance is often the key
[2024-06-12 08:52:54] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Without a feeling of accomplishment you could feel nothing and then not be motivated to repeat the effort. Rather than get a 'high' from the accomplishment and feel the need to achieve that high again
[2024-06-12 08:52:54] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Without a feeling of accomplishment you could feel nothing and then not be motivated to repeat the effort. Rather than get a 'high' from the accomplishment and feel the need to achieve that high again
[2024-06-12 08:55:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| yep many of this applies pretty universally, hard to get good at tron if you spend decades pwning noobs in yellow sub
[2024-06-12 08:55:48] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| yep many of this applies pretty universally, hard to get good at tron if you spend decades pwning noobs in yellow sub
[2024-06-12 08:56:09] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| gotta man up and face the failure of pickup eventually 🤣
[2024-06-12 08:56:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| gotta man up and face the failure of pickup eventually 🤣
[2024-06-12 09:08:36] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I can say my motivation to play Tron isn't entirely based on success but also enjoying the experience the game provides otherwise I probably wouldn't be able to play pickup over and over without giving a hoot if I win or lose, but am excited when I'm getting better.
[2024-06-12 09:08:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I can say my motivation to play Tron isn't entirely based on success but also enjoying the experience the game provides otherwise I probably wouldn't be able to play pickup over and over without giving a hoot if I win or lose, but am excited when I'm getting better.
[2024-06-12 09:08:47] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now if only somebody would pay me for something that I actually enjoy doing in my free time
[2024-06-12 09:08:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Now if only somebody would pay me for something that I actually enjoy doing in my free time
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[2024-06-12 10:58:12] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Yea the best way to view Tron skill development is to compare yourself against your previous self. As someone who's returning from a long-term hiatus, it's motivating to see several players raising the bar in terms of skill ceiling, making the game more competitive than ever. That being said, the player base isn't large enough to set up matches according to Elo, so you unfortunat <clipped message>
[2024-06-12 10:58:13] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Yea the best way to view Tron skill development is to compare yourself against your previous self. As someone who's returning from a long-term hiatus, it's motivating to see several players raising the bar in terms of skill ceiling, making the game more competitive than ever. That being said, the player base isn't large enough to set up matches according to Elo, so you unfortunat <clipped message>
[2024-06-12 10:58:13] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| ely have to grind it out and take beatings from the best until you reach their level of play. As for Apple, I don't condone everything he says, although I suspect his motivation is to provoke people into working on improving their skills in order to challenge him. I get that the J.K. Simmons Whiplash approach can be pretty unhealthy though.
[2024-06-12 10:58:13] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| ely have to grind it out and take beatings from the best until you reach their level of play. As for Apple, I don't condone everything he says, although I suspect his motivation is to provoke people into working on improving their skills in order to challenge him. I get that the J.K. Simmons Whiplash approach can be pretty unhealthy though.
[2024-06-12 11:17:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol I just take his behavior as his way of being playful at this point
[2024-06-12 11:17:07] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol I just take his behavior as his way of being playful at this point
[2024-06-12 12:52:18] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Yeah, that's probably the best way to go about it. The community is pretty welcoming to newer players, but Tron does have a certain history of hazing newbies. I vividly remember my first day on the grid; I asked for instructions on how to change my key bindings, and the first answer I got was "just hit Alt-F4 to open up the menu." Unfortunately, I was naive enough to follow this advice.
[2024-06-12 12:52:18] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Yeah, that's probably the best way to go about it. The community is pretty welcoming to newer players, but Tron does have a certain history of hazing newbies. I vividly remember my first day on the grid; I asked for instructions on how to change my key bindings, and the first answer I got was "just hit Alt-F4 to open up the menu." Unfortunately, I was naive enough to follow this advice.
[2024-06-12 13:07:20] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| I guess the mentality back then was that if you can't handle the banter, you probably won't survive here anyway. To a certain extent, this probably still holds true today. As welcoming as we can be, it still requires a pretty high level of resilience and tough skin to get through Tron's steep learning curve.
[2024-06-12 13:07:20] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| I guess the mentality back then was that if you can't handle the banter, you probably won't survive here anyway. To a certain extent, this probably still holds true today. As welcoming as we can be, it still requires a pretty high level of resilience and tough skin to get through Tron's steep learning curve.
[2024-06-12 13:14:17] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Make like an armadilla and roll with it
[2024-06-12 13:14:17] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| Make like an armadilla and roll with it
[2024-06-12 13:43:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I used to think so too, but now I'm pretty sure he's usually genuinely upset 😅
[2024-06-12 13:43:09] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| I used to think so too, but now I'm pretty sure he's usually genuinely upset 😅
[2024-06-12 15:35:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Sportsmanship and respect go hand in hand and they're earned
[2024-06-12 15:35:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Sportsmanship and respect go hand in hand and they're earned
[2024-06-12 15:35:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| that being said it's very easy to forgive and i certainly dont hold anything against anyone
[2024-06-12 15:35:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| that being said it's very easy to forgive and i certainly dont hold anything against anyone
[2024-06-12 18:38:20] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| i also fell for the alt-f4 on my first time. i think i was like 11 years old LOL
[2024-06-12 18:38:20] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| i also fell for the alt-f4 on my first time. i think i was like 11 years old LOL
[2024-06-12 19:00:16] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| shift+escape more likely
[2024-06-12 19:00:16] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| shift+escape more likely
[2024-06-12 19:37:00] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You have things were a bit different back in the old days. "Shift esc for cheat menu" has worked way more times than it should have lol
[2024-06-12 19:37:00] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| You have things were a bit different back in the old days. "Shift esc for cheat menu" has worked way more times than it should have lol
[2024-06-12 19:41:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I was referring to his behavior when he is winning 🤣
[2024-06-12 19:41:02] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I was referring to his behavior when he is winning 🤣
[2024-06-12 19:55:16] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| yea he's genuinely upset when winning too lol
[2024-06-12 19:55:17] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| yea he's genuinely upset when winning too lol
[2024-06-12 19:55:17] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| Heya guys. It's Judders (not Liz 🥱 ). I would like to be able to /login again but I have either forgotten my login, my p/w or both
[2024-06-12 19:55:17] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| Heya guys. It's Judders (not Liz 🥱 ). I would like to be able to /login again but I have either forgotten my login, my p/w or both
[2024-06-12 19:56:48] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| nvm have my email from 10 years ago ressting pw now 🙂
[2024-06-12 19:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| nvm have my email from 10 years ago ressting pw now 🙂
[2024-06-12 19:57:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| wkd stuff. Pickup is in #pickup, everything else is in its proper place
[2024-06-12 19:57:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| wkd stuff. Pickup is in #pickup, everything else is in its proper place
[2024-06-12 20:36:13] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| Love that this game is still going. Anyone know if any of these guys are still playing?
[2024-06-12 20:36:13] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| Love that this game is still going. Anyone know if any of these guys are still playing?
[2024-06-12 20:36:14] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1250609638945329212/image.png?ex=666b907d&is=666a3efd&hm=fc5d0ed946d1b27e55cf6929c4b8bbb1ac13d7ee1c2ed6ad03b1240165a9bd56&
[2024-06-12 20:36:14] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1250609638945329212/image.png?ex=666b907d&is=666a3efd&hm=fc5d0ed946d1b27e55cf6929c4b8bbb1ac13d7ee1c2ed6ad03b1240165a9bd56&
[2024-06-12 20:41:13] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I think we saw lacka once, goody is on the forums occasionally, and xyron hops in for tournaments once in a while, but not recently. Durka plays a couple times a year
[2024-06-12 20:41:13] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| I think we saw lacka once, goody is on the forums occasionally, and xyron hops in for tournaments once in a while, but not recently. Durka plays a couple times a year
[2024-06-12 20:41:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lacka pops in once in a while
[2024-06-12 20:41:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Lacka pops in once in a while
[2024-06-12 20:42:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| lari pops in occasionally too
[2024-06-12 20:42:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| lari pops in occasionally too
[2024-06-12 20:42:16] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| Durka is more of a god than a man, I remember seeing xyron taking to the wire in sumo, but _just_ lost
[2024-06-12 20:42:16] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| Durka is more of a god than a man, I remember seeing xyron taking to the wire in sumo, but _just_ lost
[2024-06-12 20:42:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| xyron is @ nmthsndr and durka is @ durka
[2024-06-12 20:42:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| xyron is @ nmthsndr and durka is @ durka
[2024-06-12 20:42:31] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| *taking dukra to the wire
[2024-06-12 20:42:31] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| *taking dukra to the wire
[2024-06-12 20:42:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I don't think any of the others are in the discord
[2024-06-12 20:42:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| I don't think any of the others are in the discord
[2024-06-12 20:42:49] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| lacka is
[2024-06-12 20:42:49] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| lacka is
[2024-06-12 20:42:51] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| o
[2024-06-12 20:42:51] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| o
[2024-06-12 20:43:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @ lckdscl
[2024-06-12 20:43:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @ lckdscl
[2024-06-12 20:43:14] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| @nmthsndr hi 🙂
[2024-06-12 20:43:14] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| @nmthsndr hi 🙂
[2024-06-12 20:43:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Word even pops in once in a while
[2024-06-12 20:43:46] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Word even pops in once in a while
[2024-06-12 20:44:21] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| @ddmj are you still quintuple binding? 🤣
[2024-06-12 20:44:22] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| @ddmj are you still quintuple binding? 🤣
[2024-06-12 20:47:40] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| anyone using the xyron cam these days?
[2024-06-12 20:47:40] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| anyone using the xyron cam these days?
[2024-06-12 20:49:20] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| Smart cam
[2024-06-12 20:49:20] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| Smart cam
[2024-06-12 20:50:25] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:judders88| @fofo1988 ❤️
[2024-06-12 20:50:25] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:judders88| @fofo1988 ❤️
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[2024-06-12 23:49:53] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Hey @judders88 I'm not on that list but definitely happy to see you back 🙂
[2024-06-12 23:49:53] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| Hey @judders88 I'm not on that list but definitely happy to see you back 🙂
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[2024-06-13 04:32:35] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:gggungu| Bro gift 50$ - [steamcommunity.com/gift-card/pay/50](https://sc.link/1GFic )
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[2024-06-13 04:32:36] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:gggungu| @everyone @here
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[2024-06-13 05:01:39] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| mods
[2024-06-13 05:01:39] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| mods
[2024-06-13 05:01:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| do the thing
[2024-06-13 05:01:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| do the thing
[2024-06-13 05:04:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think they're sleeping
[2024-06-13 05:04:59] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think they're sleeping
[2024-06-13 05:12:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So syn I've started a YT series on js basics and at least got my web browser console to display something lol
[2024-06-13 05:12:42] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So syn I've started a YT series on js basics and at least got my web browser console to display something lol
[2024-06-13 05:14:03] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| When I was asking one of those AI chat bots some questions it fed me a short script to use as a terminal script and how to use node.js but the code threw errors so now it's a challenge to figure out why on my own lol
[2024-06-13 05:14:03] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| When I was asking one of those AI chat bots some questions it fed me a short script to use as a terminal script and how to use node.js but the code threw errors so now it's a challenge to figure out why on my own lol
[2024-06-13 05:47:45] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| fire
[2024-06-13 05:47:45] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| fire
[2024-06-13 05:48:02] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| @chaotic_nivek yesterday after our chats i built a little command line app for a todo list
[2024-06-13 05:48:02] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| @chaotic_nivek yesterday after our chats i built a little command line app for a todo list
[2024-06-13 05:48:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if you want i can share the code and walk through it how to run it etc
[2024-06-13 05:48:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if you want i can share the code and walk through it how to run it etc
[2024-06-13 05:48:23] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| its only 50 lines or so
[2024-06-13 05:48:23] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| its only 50 lines or so
[2024-06-13 06:08:17] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @syn_acc sure I won't turn down free tutoring
[2024-06-13 06:08:17] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @syn_acc sure I won't turn down free tutoring
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[2024-06-14 12:48:46] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| ohi @judders88
[2024-06-14 12:48:47] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| ohi @judders88
[2024-06-14 14:48:03] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:0| très calme
[2024-06-14 14:48:03] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:0| très calme
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[2024-06-14 19:52:57] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:nroth.| Hey-- I'm on your server and stuck in spectator mode. What do I need to do to join a game?
[2024-06-14 19:52:57] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:nroth.| Hey-- I'm on your server and stuck in spectator mode. What do I need to do to join a game?
[2024-06-14 20:25:33] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| You have to go in #pickup and type: !add [the type of game you want to play]
[2024-06-14 20:25:34] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| You have to go in #pickup and type: !add [the type of game you want to play]
[2024-06-14 20:26:00] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| or just type !add which will default to sumo (tst) and fortress
[2024-06-14 20:26:00] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| or just type !add which will default to sumo (tst) and fortress
[2024-06-14 20:59:16] <armagetronbridge> 13discord:johnwowcool| ussub woo
[2024-06-14 20:59:16] <armagetron-bridge> 13discord:johnwowcool| ussub woo
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[2024-06-15 14:35:57] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:poesgamer| hello
[2024-06-15 14:35:58] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:poesgamer| hello
[2024-06-15 14:40:52] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| hello!
[2024-06-15 14:40:53] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| hello!
[2024-06-15 14:50:49] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:poesgamer| what is https://syntron.uk/?
[2024-06-15 14:50:49] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:poesgamer| what is https://syntron.uk/?
[2024-06-15 14:53:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| a work in progress
[2024-06-15 14:53:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| a work in progress
[2024-06-15 14:54:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| gonna be a helper for a lot of stuff in the game
[2024-06-15 14:54:08] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| gonna be a helper for a lot of stuff in the game
[2024-06-15 14:54:29] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:poesgamer| oh ok
[2024-06-15 14:54:29] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:poesgamer| oh ok
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[2024-06-16 04:42:02] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Out of curiousity does anyone recognize the name spa2z or spa2z__11? It's on old ign I forgot I used back in the day
[2024-06-16 04:42:02] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Out of curiousity does anyone recognize the name spa2z or spa2z__11? It's on old ign I forgot I used back in the day
[2024-06-16 17:28:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:jonas1482| how can i join the game? Hi btw
[2024-06-16 17:28:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:jonas1482| how can i join the game? Hi btw
[2024-06-16 17:31:42] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:jonas1482| is someone here that can help me out?
[2024-06-16 17:31:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:jonas1482| is someone here that can help me out?
[2024-06-16 17:59:19] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hey there if you want to join TST and/or fort you want to head to @Pickup and say !Add
[2024-06-16 17:59:20] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Hey there if you want to join TST and/or fort you want to head to @Pickup and say !Add
[2024-06-16 17:59:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sorry I meant #pickup
[2024-06-16 17:59:34] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sorry I meant #pickup
[2024-06-16 18:00:14] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Also going to need a login for in game, register at lightron.org
[2024-06-16 18:00:14] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Also going to need a login for in game, register at lightron.org
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[2024-06-17 03:03:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| so many projects so little time
[2024-06-17 03:03:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| so many projects so little time
[2024-06-17 03:03:42] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the project to organise my projects is also behind
[2024-06-17 03:03:42] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| the project to organise my projects is also behind
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[2024-06-17 23:45:00] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @shamananow welcome to the discord. As you can see the game isn't completely dead, still some of us die hard fans keeping it going
[2024-06-17 23:45:01] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @shamananow welcome to the discord. As you can see the game isn't completely dead, still some of us die hard fans keeping it going
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[2024-06-18 00:02:14] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:shamananow| Always love to see that! It’s been a minute since I’ve played, and I’m excited that it is still alive! I’ll pick it back up for a bit here and see how much of a disaster I am now 🙂
[2024-06-18 00:02:14] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:shamananow| Always love to see that! It’s been a minute since I’ve played, and I’m excited that it is still alive! I’ll pick it back up for a bit here and see how much of a disaster I am now 🙂
[2024-06-18 00:27:12] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sounds good
[2024-06-18 00:27:12] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sounds good
[2024-06-18 03:09:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| its tokens all the way up
[2024-06-18 03:09:25] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| its tokens all the way up
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[2024-06-18 14:55:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Anyone experienced mice living in their car’s AC and have any tips 🤔? My parents van was sitting for a long time and some rodents moved into the AC filter and beyond, we cleaned out all the bedding and poop we could find after removing the blower box and everything around it connecting the intake to the rest of the van, and sprayed some enzyme remover stuff to help with the <clipped message>
[2024-06-18 14:55:46] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Anyone experienced mice living in their car’s AC and have any tips 🤔? My parents van was sitting for a long time and some rodents moved into the AC filter and beyond, we cleaned out all the bedding and poop we could find after removing the blower box and everything around it connecting the intake to the rest of the van, and sprayed some enzyme remover stuff to help with the <clipped message>
[2024-06-18 14:55:46] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| piss smell. It smells a lot better but still distinctly piss when the AC is on, so I’m wondering if there’s anything else we can spray in the vents that won’t kill the AC but make it not smell so pissy 🤤
[2024-06-18 14:55:47] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| piss smell. It smells a lot better but still distinctly piss when the AC is on, so I’m wondering if there’s anything else we can spray in the vents that won’t kill the AC but make it not smell so pissy 🤤
[2024-06-18 15:10:22] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| did you replace your air filter with a non-piss one? did you check your AC's drain pan/line to make sure it's not clogged?
[2024-06-18 15:10:22] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:anjo3060| did you replace your air filter with a non-piss one? did you check your AC's drain pan/line to make sure it's not clogged?
[2024-06-18 15:12:24] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Don’t have a new filter yet but did remove the old one. Will have to googly what the drain pain is 🤤 but the AC is working fine
[2024-06-18 15:12:24] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Don’t have a new filter yet but did remove the old one. Will have to googly what the drain pain is 🤤 but the AC is working fine
[2024-06-18 15:13:36] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| you can also spray ozium into all your vents and cycle the AC for a bit
[2024-06-18 15:13:36] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:anjo3060| you can also spray ozium into all your vents and cycle the AC for a bit
[2024-06-18 15:13:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Oh if it’s the evaporator drain hose, that does seem to be fine afaik
[2024-06-18 15:13:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Oh if it’s the evaporator drain hose, that does seem to be fine afaik
[2024-06-18 15:14:47] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| Cool will try that, thx captain 🫡
[2024-06-18 15:14:48] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| Cool will try that, thx captain 🫡
[2024-06-18 15:19:59] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| you might not be able to see the entire hose, depending on the model of the vehicle. it might be worth spraying compressed air into it. or if your vehicle has a drain pan with a plug, unscrewing that and manually draining it. anything that comes out should be clear water....
[2024-06-18 15:19:59] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:anjo3060| you might not be able to see the entire hose, depending on the model of the vehicle. it might be worth spraying compressed air into it. or if your vehicle has a drain pan with a plug, unscrewing that and manually draining it. anything that comes out should be clear water....
[2024-06-18 15:28:38] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| might sound like a lot of extra work, but if that mechanism is clogged, ur parents will be basking in years of mouse piss and shit anytime they turn on their ac forever, no matter how many chemicals you spray in there
[2024-06-18 15:28:38] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:anjo3060| might sound like a lot of extra work, but if that mechanism is clogged, ur parents will be basking in years of mouse piss and shit anytime they turn on their ac forever, no matter how many chemicals you spray in there
[2024-06-18 15:37:08] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| for sure, we've tried to disassemble anything we can, it's worth it to not have to deal with the years of mouse piss and shit like you said 😩
[2024-06-18 15:37:08] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| for sure, we've tried to disassemble anything we can, it's worth it to not have to deal with the years of mouse piss and shit like you said 😩
[2024-06-18 15:38:10] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| mostly did what this guy did to remove the blower box thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U572m0pfCXE&ab_channel=TheOffroadingMechanic and cleaned all that out
[2024-06-18 15:38:10] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| mostly did what this guy did to remove the blower box thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U572m0pfCXE&ab_channel=TheOffroadingMechanic and cleaned all that out
[2024-06-18 15:38:30] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| was FULL of mice poopies and bedding 🤢
[2024-06-18 15:38:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| was FULL of mice poopies and bedding 🤢
[2024-06-18 16:34:36] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| First id definitely make sure you got rid of the mouse first lol
[2024-06-18 16:34:36] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| First id definitely make sure you got rid of the mouse first lol
[2024-06-18 16:35:58] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Or he may make new bedding out of your fuel injection wiring in the same spot
[2024-06-18 16:35:58] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| Or he may make new bedding out of your fuel injection wiring in the same spot
[2024-06-18 17:01:50] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| We didn’t find any in there, but it was parked next to a field so they may have just temporarily not been in there
[2024-06-18 17:01:50] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| We didn’t find any in there, but it was parked next to a field so they may have just temporarily not been in there
[2024-06-18 19:04:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @dorianv find a detailer and ask them to run an ozone line through your air intake after you've done all the above. No point in buying one, yes they;re effective but they will *destroy* plastics if you leave them going too long.
[2024-06-18 19:04:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @dorianv find a detailer and ask them to run an ozone line through your air intake after you've done all the above. No point in buying one, yes they;re effective but they will *destroy* plastics if you leave them going too long.
[2024-06-18 19:51:11] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:Force| Spray liquid ass in the car, that way it wont smell like piss anymore
[2024-06-18 19:51:11] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:Force| Spray liquid ass in the car, that way it wont smell like piss anymore
[2024-06-18 20:13:33] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Or buy a skunk ..
[2024-06-18 20:13:33] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| Or buy a skunk ..
[2024-06-18 20:14:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Activated charcoal or baking soda pouches may work for awhile usually problem is making sure mouse is gone is hard part
[2024-06-18 20:14:46] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| Activated charcoal or baking soda pouches may work for awhile usually problem is making sure mouse is gone is hard part
[2024-06-18 20:15:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| And making sure got a new cabin filter
[2024-06-18 20:15:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| And making sure got a new cabin filter
[2024-06-18 20:16:30] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| Or even ground coffee may absorb some of the smell
[2024-06-18 20:16:30] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| Or even ground coffee may absorb some of the smell
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[2024-06-19 23:25:54] <Lucifer_arma> Man, now my motorcycle got stolen
[2024-06-19 23:25:55] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Man, now my motorcycle got stolen
[2024-06-19 23:26:43] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That's super shitty
[2024-06-19 23:26:43] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| That's super shitty
[2024-06-19 23:28:56] <Lucifer_arma> I was going to sell it, after I used it to get my driver's license back. While it didn't have a license plate, it didn't stick out the way my van does, which also doesn't have a license plate, so I figured it was safest to drive the motorcycle to DPS to get the process started
[2024-06-19 23:28:56] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I was going to sell it, after I used it to get my driver's license back. While it didn't have a license plate, it didn't stick out the way my van does, which also doesn't have a license plate, so I figured it was safest to drive the motorcycle to DPS to get the process started
[2024-06-19 23:29:08] <Lucifer_arma> now I either have to risk taking the van, or get an uber, or WALK. :/
[2024-06-19 23:29:08] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| now I either have to risk taking the van, or get an uber, or WALK. :/
[2024-06-19 23:29:54] <Lucifer_arma> see, the plan is to show up to DPS in the early morning and try for one of their last-minute appointment slots, otherwise I have to wait 3-4 months for an appointment to come up
[2024-06-19 23:29:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| see, the plan is to show up to DPS in the early morning and try for one of their last-minute appointment slots, otherwise I have to wait 3-4 months for an appointment to come up
[2024-06-19 23:30:10] <Lucifer_arma> get my learner's permit from them, then take it to a driving school that can administer the road test.
[2024-06-19 23:30:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| get my learner's permit from them, then take it to a driving school that can administer the road test.
[2024-06-19 23:30:26] <Lucifer_arma> Then I can go back to DPS with all the paperwork and get them to give me the license itself.
[2024-06-19 23:30:26] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Then I can go back to DPS with all the paperwork and get them to give me the license itself.
[2024-06-19 23:30:51] <Lucifer_arma> with that in place, I can insure my van and get temporary tags on it, and even register it when it can pass state inspection
[2024-06-19 23:30:51] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| with that in place, I can insure my van and get temporary tags on it, and even register it when it can pass state inspection
[2024-06-19 23:31:34] <Lucifer_arma> luckily, I guess, I won't have the money for any of that for another week, so I have a week to figure out how I'm going to do all this without the bike
[2024-06-19 23:31:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| luckily, I guess, I won't have the money for any of that for another week, so I have a week to figure out how I'm going to do all this without the bike
[2024-06-19 23:34:41] <Lucifer_arma> it also solves my helmet problem. My helmet is old enough that I need to replace it anyway, so now I know I can just chunk it because I don't need it anymore.
[2024-06-19 23:34:41] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| it also solves my helmet problem. My helmet is old enough that I need to replace it anyway, so now I know I can just chunk it because I don't need it anymore.
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[2024-06-20 14:18:46] <Lucifer_arma> Woohoo, got another subscriber :)
[2024-06-20 14:18:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Woohoo, got another subscriber :)
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[2024-06-20 18:23:19] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| Hello guys
[2024-06-20 18:23:20] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| Hello guys
[2024-06-20 18:23:24] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| Im nee to the community
[2024-06-20 18:23:25] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| Im nee to the community
[2024-06-20 18:39:38] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| hi and welcome @spoodermanpotato
[2024-06-20 18:39:38] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| hi and welcome @spoodermanpotato
[2024-06-20 20:06:41] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1253501307835252776/use-with-discretion-v0-jkvs7oujpd7d1.png?ex=66761590&is=6674c410&hm=db1d91d1b67fef6c8664ba042f539271997a70210cea8e964bbe16867cc13c44&
[2024-06-20 20:06:41] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1253501307835252776/use-with-discretion-v0-jkvs7oujpd7d1.png?ex=66761590&is=6674c410&hm=db1d91d1b67fef6c8664ba042f539271997a70210cea8e964bbe16867cc13c44&
[2024-06-20 20:51:15] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| too smol
[2024-06-20 20:51:15] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| too smol
[2024-06-20 20:51:23] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| never
[2024-06-20 20:51:23] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| never
[2024-06-20 20:51:29] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| i will not harm my eyes
[2024-06-20 20:51:29] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| i will not harm my eyes
[2024-06-20 20:51:50] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| anyway i spent the last 4 hours playing retro cycles
[2024-06-20 20:51:51] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| anyway i spent the last 4 hours playing retro cycles
[2024-06-20 20:51:57] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| its almost 3 am
[2024-06-20 20:51:57] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:spoodermanpotato| its almost 3 am
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[2024-06-20 21:25:41] <Lucifer_arma> Well, I made a new title sequence. Hopefully people don't hate it so much, but I wanted something that, while not necessarily better, reflected my increasing skills in editing :)
[2024-06-20 21:25:41] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Well, I made a new title sequence. Hopefully people don't hate it so much, but I wanted something that, while not necessarily better, reflected my increasing skills in editing :)
[2024-06-20 21:28:33] <Lucifer_arma> I have now been sober again for an entire February :)
[2024-06-20 21:28:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I have now been sober again for an entire February :)
[2024-06-20 21:58:39] <Lucifer_arma> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPn5nAgun8g More about Starliner :(
[2024-06-20 21:58:39] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPn5nAgun8g More about Starliner :(
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[2024-06-21 00:13:20] <Lucifer_arma> One more video going up. I produced two videos today. That catches me up, but I really need to get a few weeks ahead if I want any hope of being able to post a new video every week.
[2024-06-21 00:13:21] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| One more video going up. I produced two videos today. That catches me up, but I really need to get a few weeks ahead if I want any hope of being able to post a new video every week.
[2024-06-21 00:18:33] <Lucifer_arma> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtKvfFWNvs Give it a minute, it's still going through copyright checks. Also, I can't believe I didn't mention TRON in this video. I should do a video about TRON.
[2024-06-21 00:18:33] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtKvfFWNvs Give it a minute, it's still going through copyright checks. Also, I can't believe I didn't mention TRON in this video. I should do a video about TRON.
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[2024-06-21 07:07:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @grapejuice_42 if you really must share those childish sorts of things, do so in #memes where they are supposed to be
[2024-06-21 07:07:33] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @grapejuice_42 if you really must share those childish sorts of things, do so in #memes where they are supposed to be
[2024-06-21 07:27:14] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| league point idea
[2024-06-21 07:27:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| league point idea
[2024-06-21 07:27:15] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| currently we have points separate to k/d
[2024-06-21 07:27:15] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| currently we have points separate to k/d
[2024-06-21 07:27:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| what if the final score was based on points * kd?
[2024-06-21 07:27:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| what if the final score was based on points * kd?
[2024-06-21 19:39:58] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| ...I think I'm blind, I just looked for meme channel
[2024-06-21 19:39:59] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| ...I think I'm blind, I just looked for meme channel
[2024-06-21 19:59:57] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| heh, no worries man, just reminded me of those old email chains from years ago. Stuff like "if you don't forward this to ten people I will enact my revenge" sorta gag
[2024-06-21 19:59:57] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| heh, no worries man, just reminded me of those old email chains from years ago. Stuff like "if you don't forward this to ten people I will enact my revenge" sorta gag
[2024-06-21 20:21:53] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| Oh god I hate those
[2024-06-21 20:21:53] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| Oh god I hate those
[2024-06-21 20:22:07] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| They still do that on Reddit
[2024-06-21 20:22:08] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| They still do that on Reddit
[2024-06-21 20:22:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| sub hopping yes. Luckily I have a ratehr extensive automod filter *just* for those posts specifically
[2024-06-21 20:22:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| sub hopping yes. Luckily I have a ratehr extensive automod filter *just* for those posts specifically
[2024-06-21 20:23:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| still have a bot I'm writing on the back burner. YAML is just awful to work in
[2024-06-21 20:23:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| still have a bot I'm writing on the back burner. YAML is just awful to work in
[2024-06-21 20:23:52] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| I need one of those lol
[2024-06-21 20:23:52] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| I need one of those lol
[2024-06-21 20:24:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| an automod config?
[2024-06-21 20:24:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| an automod config?
[2024-06-21 20:24:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoModerator/
[2024-06-21 20:24:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoModerator/
[2024-06-21 20:24:57] <armagetronbridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| Oh thanks
[2024-06-21 20:24:57] <armagetron-bridge> 05discord:grapejuice_42| Oh thanks
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[2024-06-23 12:02:33] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @mace.gamer Welcome to the club,
[2024-06-23 12:02:33] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| @mace.gamer Welcome to the club,
[2024-06-23 12:03:50] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| "pickup" games are kinda like end game skill level to be honest so some other game servers you might see some people to play with is random sumo servers that aren't pickup or even a submarine server. Submarine servers are usually a bit easier for brand new players
[2024-06-23 12:03:50] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| "pickup" games are kinda like end game skill level to be honest so some other game servers you might see some people to play with is random sumo servers that aren't pickup or even a submarine server. Submarine servers are usually a bit easier for brand new players
[2024-06-23 12:04:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If you see me in game feel free to ask for any help
[2024-06-23 12:04:08] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| If you see me in game feel free to ask for any help
[2024-06-23 12:52:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:mace.gamer| ok thanks @chaotic_nivek
[2024-06-23 12:52:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:mace.gamer| ok thanks @chaotic_nivek
[2024-06-23 17:24:56] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I am looking for recommendations for personal database software. Something to store contacts, but with more fields. For a long time I simply used a spreadsheet but I had a lot of columns and it was hard to navigate without a lot of scrolling in both directions. A few years ago I started using a tool I found on Github named Sympthytum, but it looks like abandonware these days. I t <clipped message>
[2024-06-23 17:24:56] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I am looking for recommendations for personal database software. Something to store contacts, but with more fields. For a long time I simply used a spreadsheet but I had a lot of columns and it was hard to navigate without a lot of scrolling in both directions. A few years ago I started using a tool I found on Github named Sympthytum, but it looks like abandonware these days. I t <clipped message>
[2024-06-23 17:24:57] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| hought about LibreOffice Base but that seems excessive. Today I'm wondering if I can just keep all my contact info in JSON, but then I don't know a good way to edit it using a GUI. How doed everyone here store their personal contacts?
[2024-06-23 17:24:57] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| hought about LibreOffice Base but that seems excessive. Today I'm wondering if I can just keep all my contact info in JSON, but then I don't know a good way to edit it using a GUI. How doed everyone here store their personal contacts?
[2024-06-23 17:33:43] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Off the top of my head, teable springs to mind. Its something of a personal cloud oriented thing but you can deploy it locally over docker or probably baremetal too.
[2024-06-23 17:33:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Off the top of my head, teable springs to mind. Its something of a personal cloud oriented thing but you can deploy it locally over docker or probably baremetal too.
[2024-06-23 17:35:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's not really a personal organiser as such, but it supports templated data stuff, one of the prefab templates is an employee directory so customising that to your liking might be fairly idea
[2024-06-23 17:35:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| It's not really a personal organiser as such, but it supports templated data stuff, one of the prefab templates is an employee directory so customising that to your liking might be fairly idea
[2024-06-23 17:57:25] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| I have an Android phone and just use that to store my contacts, as much as I hate Google. I guess it's because I've had a gmail account for years so I just keep with that sorta stuff.
[2024-06-23 17:57:25] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| I have an Android phone and just use that to store my contacts, as much as I hate Google. I guess it's because I've had a gmail account for years so I just keep with that sorta stuff.
[2024-06-23 17:57:59] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| (contacts and other info is backed up to my gmail account)
[2024-06-23 17:58:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| (contacts and other info is backed up to my gmail account)
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[2024-06-23 23:20:43] -!- Channel #armagetron created on 2021-05-20 17:23:14 UTC
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[2024-06-24 08:20:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| can confirm. Contacts backed up automatically when I was like, 17, and never bothered fixing it.
[2024-06-24 08:20:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| can confirm. Contacts backed up automatically when I was like, 17, and never bothered fixing it.
[2024-06-24 08:20:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| also fuck google for automatically doing that shit
[2024-06-24 08:20:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| also fuck google for automatically doing that shit
[2024-06-24 08:21:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| it does cause a problem when I remove GPlay though. Or never install GApps in the first place
[2024-06-24 08:21:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| it does cause a problem when I remove GPlay though. Or never install GApps in the first place
[2024-06-24 15:00:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| Sunday June 30 4v4 WST https://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=WST
[2024-06-24 15:00:56] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| Sunday June 30 4v4 WST https://wiki.armagetronad.org/index.php?title=WST
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[2024-06-24 23:25:09] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| hello guys! just played a multiplayer game for the first time, the guys in it directed me to this game
[2024-06-24 23:25:09] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| hello guys! just played a multiplayer game for the first time, the guys in it directed me to this game
[2024-06-24 23:26:07] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| this one!
[2024-06-24 23:26:07] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| this one!
[2024-06-24 23:26:08] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1255001051187249152/image.png?ex=667b8a4f&is=667a38cf&hm=bc22f1b4d1e1eb6cc73da00887957bff6c16426cdec532081599a1ececc26406&
[2024-06-24 23:26:08] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1255001051187249152/image.png?ex=667b8a4f&is=667a38cf&hm=bc22f1b4d1e1eb6cc73da00887957bff6c16426cdec532081599a1ececc26406&
[2024-06-24 23:26:20] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| cool that u guys have a bot to show whose in what server
[2024-06-24 23:26:21] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| cool that u guys have a bot to show whose in what server
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[2024-06-25 00:23:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| https://browser.armanelgtron.tk/ we also have this website which I think works a little more accurately
[2024-06-25 00:23:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| https://browser.armanelgtron.tk/ we also have this website which I think works a little more accurately
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[2024-06-25 11:01:22] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| It works it's just always like 5 minutes behind lol
[2024-06-25 11:01:23] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| It works it's just always like 5 minutes behind lol
[2024-06-25 11:05:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:Grimm| You both were improving rather quickly it does help if you have played before ..bhave previous knowledge feel free to ask questions some will answer to help you get better at the game sometimes improvement comes from just grinding it out
[2024-06-25 11:05:42] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:Grimm| You both were improving rather quickly it does help if you have played before ..bhave previous knowledge feel free to ask questions some will answer to help you get better at the game sometimes improvement comes from just grinding it out
[2024-06-25 12:14:27] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Anyone know where to find a list of all tunnel trouble maps?
[2024-06-25 12:14:27] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Anyone know where to find a list of all tunnel trouble maps?
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[2024-06-25 12:50:41] <armagetronbridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| for sure, I'm gonna play more
[2024-06-25 12:50:42] <armagetron-bridge> 09discord:etanbadmic| for sure, I'm gonna play more
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[2024-06-25 18:25:09] <Lucifer_arma> well that was fun. I checked my poll on YouTube last night and The Last Starfighter was the clear winner, so I made a comment to that effect and downloaded the Last Starfighter. When I sat down to write the script for the video today, apparently more people voted and it was then neck and neck with Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
[2024-06-25 18:25:09] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well that was fun. I checked my poll on YouTube last night and The Last Starfighter was the clear winner, so I made a comment to that effect and downloaded the Last Starfighter. When I sat down to write the script for the video today, apparently more people voted and it was then neck and neck with Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
[2024-06-25 18:25:16] <Lucifer_arma> So I started downloading that one
[2024-06-25 18:25:16] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| So I started downloading that one
[2024-06-25 18:25:42] <Lucifer_arma> now, I've finished writing the script and am getting ready to start pre-production, and now Attack of the Killer Tomatoes has pulled ahead!
[2024-06-25 18:25:43] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| now, I've finished writing the script and am getting ready to start pre-production, and now Attack of the Killer Tomatoes has pulled ahead!
[2024-06-25 18:25:44] <Lucifer_arma> Dammit.
[2024-06-25 18:25:45] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Dammit.
[2024-06-25 18:25:59] <Lucifer_arma> Still doing the last starfighter first, because I'm already too far along.
[2024-06-25 18:25:59] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Still doing the last starfighter first, because I'm already too far along.
[2024-06-25 18:26:29] <Lucifer_arma> Don't worry, the third option in the poll was TRON, and I'm *definitely* going to do TRON. I'm going to need some footage from Arma to drop into the video, of course
[2024-06-25 18:26:29] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Don't worry, the third option in the poll was TRON, and I'm *definitely* going to do TRON. I'm going to need some footage from Arma to drop into the video, of course
[2024-06-25 18:26:46] <Lucifer_arma> but I have to do these others first, and a few other videos, so could be a couple of months before I get to TRON
[2024-06-25 18:26:46] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| but I have to do these others first, and a few other videos, so could be a couple of months before I get to TRON
[2024-06-25 19:31:35] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I haven't been following the story, what are you doing exactly? @irc | Lucifer_arma
[2024-06-25 19:31:35] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I haven't been following the story, what are you doing exactly? @irc | Lucifer_arma
[2024-06-25 19:31:59] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Er what is the irc way...
[2024-06-25 19:31:59] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Er what is the irc way...
[2024-06-25 19:32:40] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lucifer_arma: does this ping you? Lol
[2024-06-25 19:32:40] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lucifer_arma: does this ping you? Lol
[2024-06-25 19:54:10] <Lucifer_arma> Just type out my name, it'll ping and highlight me
[2024-06-25 19:54:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Just type out my name, it'll ping and highlight me
[2024-06-25 19:54:47] <Lucifer_arma> Um, I started a YouTube channel back in, I think it was February, to support my writing. So that last little blurb I did was about the latest work on that channel.
[2024-06-25 19:54:47] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Um, I started a YouTube channel back in, I think it was February, to support my writing. So that last little blurb I did was about the latest work on that channel.
[2024-06-25 19:55:17] <Lucifer_arma> I've not rehearsed the video, and mostly figured out how I'm going to shoot it, so now I need to set that up, make sure the phone is charged enough to shoot, and the laptop is charged enough for me to read the script
[2024-06-25 19:55:17] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I've not rehearsed the video, and mostly figured out how I'm going to shoot it, so now I need to set that up, make sure the phone is charged enough to shoot, and the laptop is charged enough for me to read the script
[2024-06-25 19:55:28] <Lucifer_arma> *now, I've *now* rehearsed the video
[2024-06-25 19:55:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| *now, I've *now* rehearsed the video
[2024-06-25 19:56:09] <Lucifer_arma> I'm doing pre-production out of order. Normally I would have set up the clips I want to grab out of the movie first, but I think I'm going to edit it differently this time.
[2024-06-25 19:56:10] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'm doing pre-production out of order. Normally I would have set up the clips I want to grab out of the movie first, but I think I'm going to edit it differently this time.
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[2024-06-25 21:40:30] <Lucifer_arma> Dangers of location shooting: I swallowed a bug while shooting. Should I leave it in there? I'll have to see, if it's funny, I'll leave it in
[2024-06-25 21:40:30] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| Dangers of location shooting: I swallowed a bug while shooting. Should I leave it in there? I'll have to see, if it's funny, I'll leave it in
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[2024-06-25 21:48:12] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ha, could definitely leave it in but you know edit it short, and start over from where you left off so it's not too interuptive <@1123629692667310101>
[2024-06-25 21:48:12] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Ha, could definitely leave it in but you know edit it short, and start over from where you left off so it's not too interuptive <@1123629692667310101>
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[2024-06-26 00:51:12] <Lucifer_arma> well, while shooting, I just backed up in the script after catching my breath and drinking some soda, so I can jump cut over it
[2024-06-26 00:51:12] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| well, while shooting, I just backed up in the script after catching my breath and drinking some soda, so I can jump cut over it
[2024-06-26 00:51:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| do like a late jump cut lol. the gag and then cut like nothing happened XD
[2024-06-26 00:51:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| do like a late jump cut lol. the gag and then cut like nothing happened XD
[2024-06-26 00:53:27] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| outtake at the end
[2024-06-26 00:53:27] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| outtake at the end
[2024-06-26 01:04:40] <Lucifer_arma> heh, no outtakes. I haven't been keeping the screwups. Although, there aren't many, but I don't like most outtake reels people do
[2024-06-26 01:04:40] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| heh, no outtakes. I haven't been keeping the screwups. Although, there aren't many, but I don't like most outtake reels people do
[2024-06-26 01:05:28] <Lucifer_arma> I'll try to keep outtakes at some point.
[2024-06-26 01:05:28] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I'll try to keep outtakes at some point.
[2024-06-26 01:06:13] <Lucifer_arma> also, this new style of editing a video is not something I'm ever doing again. It's such a pain in the ass.
[2024-06-26 01:06:13] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| also, this new style of editing a video is not something I'm ever doing again. It's such a pain in the ass.
[2024-06-26 01:06:53] <Lucifer_arma> I thought, since most of the video is a plot summary, I'll just bring the whole movie in as a clip and cut it as needed to show visuals for the stuff in the plot summary.
[2024-06-26 01:06:54] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| I thought, since most of the video is a plot summary, I'll just bring the whole movie in as a clip and cut it as needed to show visuals for the stuff in the plot summary.
[2024-06-26 01:07:34] <Lucifer_arma> It's *such* a pain in the ass. I'm going to change my extraction script to have a flag to only extract video, and in the future I'm going to keep using it to extract clips. This manual stuff is much harder work than I was expecting it to be
[2024-06-26 01:07:34] <armagetronbridge> 10irc:Lucifer_arma| It's *such* a pain in the ass. I'm going to change my extraction script to have a flag to only extract video, and in the future I'm going to keep using it to extract clips. This manual stuff is much harder work than I was expecting it to be
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[2024-06-29 10:15:53] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just finished the last episode! Episodes 11 and 12 had me going, thinking that they made some fucked up nonsense ending but naw, they killed it with the last episode 10/10
[2024-06-29 10:15:53] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just finished the last episode! Episodes 11 and 12 had me going, thinking that they made some fucked up nonsense ending but naw, they killed it with the last episode 10/10
[2024-06-29 11:29:30] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| niceee man yea i enjoyed the ending too
[2024-06-29 11:29:30] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| niceee man yea i enjoyed the ending too
[2024-06-29 11:29:35] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| top 5 shows of all time for me
[2024-06-29 11:29:35] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| top 5 shows of all time for me
[2024-06-29 11:29:39] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| maybe top 10
[2024-06-29 11:29:39] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| maybe top 10
[2024-06-29 11:32:25] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's definitely nice to find a show with good ending cuz so many of them either get a fucked up ending or no ending at all
[2024-06-29 11:32:25] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's definitely nice to find a show with good ending cuz so many of them either get a fucked up ending or no ending at all
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[2024-06-29 16:32:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| holy shit.
[2024-06-29 16:32:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| holy shit.
[2024-06-29 16:32:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wanted to try out something a little less chemical than permethrin for my moth problem, mostly because a single drop can kill an entire lake and that's an ecological nightmare (and also because that much permethrin will make catto very unhappy). Ended up buying some lavender, some lavender oil, peppermint oil,. and a HUGE bulk bottle of vinegar. Tried ti all out and *fuck me its so strong*
[2024-06-29 16:32:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wanted to try out something a little less chemical than permethrin for my moth problem, mostly because a single drop can kill an entire lake and that's an ecological nightmare (and also because that much permethrin will make catto very unhappy). Ended up buying some lavender, some lavender oil, peppermint oil,. and a HUGE bulk bottle of vinegar. Tried ti all out and *fuck me its so strong*
[2024-06-29 16:32:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I swear my house now smells like a dowager's handbag
[2024-06-29 16:32:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I swear my house now smells like a dowager's handbag
[2024-06-29 18:12:17] <Lucifer_arma_> It's probably the vinegar. I used it for fruit flies awhile back and it all evaporated. My apartment smelled like a vinegaroon colony
[2024-06-29 18:12:18] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| It's probably the vinegar. I used it for fruit flies awhile back and it all evaporated. My apartment smelled like a vinegaroon colony
[2024-06-29 18:12:37] <Lucifer_arma_> *don't* google "vinegaroon", if you don't know what it is, continue living your blissful life
[2024-06-29 18:12:37] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| *don't* google "vinegaroon", if you don't know what it is, continue living your blissful life
[2024-06-29 18:12:50] <Lucifer_arma_> The Last Starfighter video is done and almost uploaded *sigh*
[2024-06-29 18:12:50] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| The Last Starfighter video is done and almost uploaded *sigh*
[2024-06-29 18:12:52] <Lucifer_arma_> late
[2024-06-29 18:12:52] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| late
[2024-06-29 18:13:12] <Lucifer_arma_> now I need to write the script for the Spock or Therapist video
[2024-06-29 18:13:12] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| now I need to write the script for the Spock or Therapist video
[2024-06-29 18:26:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| to be honest, I don't smell the vinegar itself - but I suspect the vinegar is massively amplifying the peppermint oil. It's all dilute to something like 1/10 anyway
[2024-06-29 18:26:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| to be honest, I don't smell the vinegar itself - but I suspect the vinegar is massively amplifying the peppermint oil. It's all dilute to something like 1/10 anyway
[2024-06-29 18:26:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ngl I kinda like it
[2024-06-29 18:26:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ngl I kinda like it
[2024-06-29 18:26:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm hoping the vinegar nukes the moth larvae, I found loads of bebby moths over the past week. I thought they were just flying in through the window but apparently not
[2024-06-29 18:26:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm hoping the vinegar nukes the moth larvae, I found loads of bebby moths over the past week. I thought they were just flying in through the window but apparently not
[2024-06-29 19:02:13] <Lucifer_arma_> where are they laying their eggs? I thought moths laid eggs in closets or soil. Do you have lots of indoor plants?
[2024-06-29 19:02:13] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| where are they laying their eggs? I thought moths laid eggs in closets or soil. Do you have lots of indoor plants?
[2024-06-29 19:06:06] <Lucifer_arma_> Do other channels who do reviews of movies deal with all the copyright blocks? It's clear and obvious fair use. YouTube's content ID thing keeps pulling false positives.
[2024-06-29 19:06:07] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Do other channels who do reviews of movies deal with all the copyright blocks? It's clear and obvious fair use. YouTube's content ID thing keeps pulling false positives.
[2024-06-29 19:44:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Hey all, planning to run Armagetron at a LAN party coming up. Aiming at 32 players simultaneously, what would you guys suggest as the most fun tournament idea? 8v8v8v8? or smaller teams? Just looking for what's the most fun for most likely 100% new players, preferably with more people playing simultaneously.
[2024-06-29 19:44:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Hey all, planning to run Armagetron at a LAN party coming up. Aiming at 32 players simultaneously, what would you guys suggest as the most fun tournament idea? 8v8v8v8? or smaller teams? Just looking for what's the most fun for most likely 100% new players, preferably with more people playing simultaneously.
[2024-06-29 19:44:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Also, just looking to maybe get some input from y'all on game setup rules, the min/max teams/players always seems to get goofed up with random AIs where they shouldn't be. Thanks!!
[2024-06-29 19:44:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Also, just looking to maybe get some input from y'all on game setup rules, the min/max teams/players always seems to get goofed up with random AIs where they shouldn't be. Thanks!!
[2024-06-29 20:15:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| can a server handle 32 players simultaneously on lan?
[2024-06-29 20:15:56] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| can a server handle 32 players simultaneously on lan?
[2024-06-29 20:19:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| I would think yes
[2024-06-29 20:19:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| I would think yes
[2024-06-29 20:19:47] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| good map should include zones to provide direction
[2024-06-29 20:19:47] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| good map should include zones to provide direction
[2024-06-29 20:19:55] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| but fort might be too tricky
[2024-06-29 20:19:55] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| but fort might be too tricky
[2024-06-29 20:20:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i was thinking old school fort like 8v8 on one server and 8v8 on another
[2024-06-29 20:20:35] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i was thinking old school fort like 8v8 on one server and 8v8 on another
[2024-06-29 20:20:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| then swap teams round
[2024-06-29 20:20:47] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| then swap teams round
[2024-06-29 20:20:59] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| 4 team fort
[2024-06-29 20:20:59] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| 4 team fort
[2024-06-29 20:21:13] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| ffa 32 player sumobar
[2024-06-29 20:21:13] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| ffa 32 player sumobar
[2024-06-29 20:21:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but isnt 4 team fort 4v4v4v4?
[2024-06-29 20:21:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but isnt 4 team fort 4v4v4v4?
[2024-06-29 20:21:26] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| make it 8v8v8v8 instead
[2024-06-29 20:21:26] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| make it 8v8v8v8 instead
[2024-06-29 20:21:27] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| 32 sumobar lol
[2024-06-29 20:21:28] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| 32 sumobar lol
[2024-06-29 20:21:40] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| that would require a bigger map no?
[2024-06-29 20:21:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| that would require a bigger map no?
[2024-06-29 20:21:49] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| minor tweaking
[2024-06-29 20:21:49] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| minor tweaking
[2024-06-29 20:22:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| more like major
[2024-06-29 20:22:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| more like major
[2024-06-29 20:22:16] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| ? just x the dimensions
[2024-06-29 20:22:16] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| ? just x the dimensions
[2024-06-29 20:22:28] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| maybe
[2024-06-29 20:22:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| maybe
[2024-06-29 20:22:42] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| could even just keep the map
[2024-06-29 20:22:42] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| could even just keep the map
[2024-06-29 20:22:54] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| but be more generous with rubber etc.
[2024-06-29 20:22:54] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| but be more generous with rubber etc.
[2024-06-29 20:23:04] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| im not sure id mess about with rubber
[2024-06-29 20:23:04] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| im not sure id mess about with rubber
[2024-06-29 20:23:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i think 8v8v8v8 would be choatic
[2024-06-29 20:23:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i think 8v8v8v8 would be choatic
[2024-06-29 20:23:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| chaotic
[2024-06-29 20:23:25] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| chaotic
[2024-06-29 20:23:36] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| 2 servers is easy
[2024-06-29 20:23:37] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| 2 servers is easy
[2024-06-29 20:23:44] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| when you play for the first time you feel like instadying when you touch a wall
[2024-06-29 20:23:44] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| when you play for the first time you feel like instadying when you touch a wall
[2024-06-29 20:23:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and no messing about with maps
[2024-06-29 20:23:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and no messing about with maps
[2024-06-29 20:24:02] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| 16 players is enough
[2024-06-29 20:24:02] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| 16 players is enough
[2024-06-29 20:24:05] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| could do brackets
[2024-06-29 20:24:06] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| could do brackets
[2024-06-29 20:24:18] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| im jealous
[2024-06-29 20:24:18] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| im jealous
[2024-06-29 20:24:26] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @joooooooooo have the people you are doing your lan party with played before?
[2024-06-29 20:24:26] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @joooooooooo have the people you are doing your lan party with played before?
[2024-06-29 20:24:50] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| he said it will be the first time for some
[2024-06-29 20:24:50] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| he said it will be the first time for some
[2024-06-29 20:25:06] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| yeah then 8v8 fort i would do on 2 servers
[2024-06-29 20:25:06] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| yeah then 8v8 fort i would do on 2 servers
[2024-06-29 20:25:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if its exactly 32 people
[2024-06-29 20:25:25] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if its exactly 32 people
[2024-06-29 20:25:34] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| only if they manage to grind within the first 15 minutes
[2024-06-29 20:25:35] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| only if they manage to grind within the first 15 minutes
[2024-06-29 20:25:40] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| otherwise could do 6v6 on 3 servers or something
[2024-06-29 20:25:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| otherwise could do 6v6 on 3 servers or something
[2024-06-29 20:25:42] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| otherwise just durka durka land
[2024-06-29 20:25:42] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| otherwise just durka durka land
[2024-06-29 20:25:56] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i learnt to play on fort
[2024-06-29 20:25:56] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i learnt to play on fort
[2024-06-29 20:26:17] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if i can do it then im sure they will get it
[2024-06-29 20:26:17] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if i can do it then im sure they will get it
[2024-06-29 20:26:26] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| they dont need to be experts in fort
[2024-06-29 20:26:27] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| they dont need to be experts in fort
[2024-06-29 20:26:42] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| you have a few k hours in the game
[2024-06-29 20:26:42] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| you have a few k hours in the game
[2024-06-29 20:26:49] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ?
[2024-06-29 20:26:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ?
[2024-06-29 20:26:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| my first fort game was probably not fun
[2024-06-29 20:26:56] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| my first fort game was probably not fun
[2024-06-29 20:27:08] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| mine was ....until fofo kicked me lmao
[2024-06-29 20:27:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| mine was ....until fofo kicked me lmao
[2024-06-29 20:27:17] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| pretty sure the same happened to me
[2024-06-29 20:27:17] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| pretty sure the same happened to me
[2024-06-29 20:28:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but if they are all new, it should be ok
[2024-06-29 20:28:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but if they are all new, it should be ok
[2024-06-29 20:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| my first fort pickup game was syre yelling at me the entire match
[2024-06-29 20:37:47] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| my first fort pickup game was syre yelling at me the entire match
[2024-06-29 20:38:52] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| didnt add again until 8 or so years later
[2024-06-29 20:38:52] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| didnt add again until 8 or so years later
[2024-06-29 20:45:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| most gamers nowadays have either played or understand the concept of a battle royal, so I'd suggest a super large sumo zone, bigger than just one scaled to 32 players based on current 8 player scale. That way people can drive around for a bit without pressure, encounter others, do a little dogfighting and maybe die, but eventually forced into the middle if they're still alive. Co <clipped message>
[2024-06-29 20:45:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| most gamers nowadays have either played or understand the concept of a battle royal, so I'd suggest a super large sumo zone, bigger than just one scaled to 32 players based on current 8 player scale. That way people can drive around for a bit without pressure, encounter others, do a little dogfighting and maybe die, but eventually forced into the middle if they're still alive. Co <clipped message>
[2024-06-29 20:45:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| uld get rid of kill/zone points and just have it be last man standing, one round matches. Or some variant idk
[2024-06-29 20:45:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| uld get rid of kill/zone points and just have it be last man standing, one round matches. Or some variant idk
[2024-06-29 20:49:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| actually that might be a bad idea because of how long people might have to wait nvm 🤤. Forgot with battle royales people just queue up right after dying to play again
[2024-06-29 20:49:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| actually that might be a bad idea because of how long people might have to wait nvm 🤤. Forgot with battle royales people just queue up right after dying to play again
[2024-06-29 20:53:40] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| For new players I would recommend a capture the flag tournament with 4-8 player teams, with the resurrection feature people will feel more engaged while playing.
[2024-06-29 20:53:40] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| For new players I would recommend a capture the flag tournament with 4-8 player teams, with the resurrection feature people will feel more engaged while playing.
[2024-06-29 20:53:59] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| @ninjapotato1080 is the map pro
[2024-06-29 20:53:59] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| @ninjapotato1080 is the map pro
[2024-06-29 20:56:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I would second a ctf game idea
[2024-06-29 20:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I would second a ctf game idea
[2024-06-29 20:57:30] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| ctf does require a sty(+ct(+ap)) server, versus sumo which will work on any current version
[2024-06-29 20:57:30] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| ctf does require a sty(+ct(+ap)) server, versus sumo which will work on any current version
[2024-06-29 20:58:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| game modes with respawn and/or high rubber are generally preferred by newer players. i remember not playing sumo for my first 4 years on tron and then waiting another 10 for fortress
[2024-06-29 20:58:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:anjo3060| game modes with respawn and/or high rubber are generally preferred by newer players. i remember not playing sumo for my first 4 years on tron and then waiting another 10 for fortress
[2024-06-29 20:58:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| respawn to start off ..yes definitely
[2024-06-29 20:58:42] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| respawn to start off ..yes definitely
[2024-06-29 20:58:51] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i would not say high rubber though
[2024-06-29 20:58:51] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i would not say high rubber though
[2024-06-29 20:59:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| just my opinion
[2024-06-29 20:59:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| just my opinion
[2024-06-29 21:01:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Anything with respawns enabled would be a great idea in general, no one is going to enjoy waiting to 10-15 mins for the next round after only surviving 15-30 seconds
[2024-06-29 21:01:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Anything with respawns enabled would be a great idea in general, no one is going to enjoy waiting to 10-15 mins for the next round after only surviving 15-30 seconds
[2024-06-29 21:10:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| More than likely it would be many of their first introduction to the game
[2024-06-29 21:10:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| More than likely it would be many of their first introduction to the game
[2024-06-29 21:15:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Just trying to figure out the balance between fun and competition for newer players, I’m assuming 2 teams regardless of size is probably the most dramatic and fun
[2024-06-29 21:15:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Just trying to figure out the balance between fun and competition for newer players, I’m assuming 2 teams regardless of size is probably the most dramatic and fun
[2024-06-29 21:29:26] <Lucifer_arma_> 5 is the ideal team size
[2024-06-29 21:29:27] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| 5 is the ideal team size
[2024-06-29 21:29:55] <Lucifer_arma_> I'd do team death match, last man standing
[2024-06-29 21:29:56] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I'd do team death match, last man standing
[2024-06-29 21:30:16] <Lucifer_arma_> four players per team, with about an hour of free play
[2024-06-29 21:30:16] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| four players per team, with about an hour of free play
[2024-06-29 21:30:44] <Lucifer_arma_> that'll set you up for teams to split up into pairs and work the grid that way, occasionally coming together as a full team
[2024-06-29 21:30:45] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| that'll set you up for teams to split up into pairs and work the grid that way, occasionally coming together as a full team
[2024-06-29 21:31:13] <Lucifer_arma_> anyway, I'm off again for a little bit
[2024-06-29 21:31:14] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| anyway, I'm off again for a little bit
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[2024-06-29 23:21:41] <Lucifer_arma_> For settings, I'd use the old Breakfast settings, of course, which morphed into the Fortress settings. So, fortress physics, last man standing game
[2024-06-29 23:21:43] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| For settings, I'd use the old Breakfast settings, of course, which morphed into the Fortress settings. So, fortress physics, last man standing game
[2024-06-29 23:22:17] <Lucifer_arma_> Or you could grab my breakfast in hell settings and just increase the grid size. The smaller arena is difficult for new players, but the physics settings are great for new players
[2024-06-29 23:22:17] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Or you could grab my breakfast in hell settings and just increase the grid size. The smaller arena is difficult for new players, but the physics settings are great for new players
[2024-06-29 23:23:46] <Lucifer_arma_> if you really want to run only one server, I'd also make a map that has a separate arena for each group of players, with four spawn points in each one. So, two arenas for 32 players with 4 players per team.
[2024-06-29 23:23:46] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| if you really want to run only one server, I'd also make a map that has a separate arena for each group of players, with four spawn points in each one. So, two arenas for 32 players with 4 players per team.
[2024-06-29 23:23:55] <Lucifer_arma_> Each arena would have 16 players in it
[2024-06-29 23:23:55] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Each arena would have 16 players in it
[2024-06-29 23:24:53] <Lucifer_arma_> or you could make a fun map with four arenas connected by narrow tunnels, two teams spawn per arena. So whenever you clear out your arena, you move to another area and fight some more, or you split off and send two one way, and two another way
[2024-06-29 23:24:53] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| or you could make a fun map with four arenas connected by narrow tunnels, two teams spawn per arena. So whenever you clear out your arena, you move to another area and fight some more, or you split off and send two one way, and two another way
[2024-06-29 23:25:47] <Lucifer_arma_> I'd AI balance, though, to make sure there are four players per team. That way, if someone has to step out and use the restroom, you can still have balanced teams, and the AIs do death match quite well, even if they don't play as a team very well
[2024-06-29 23:25:47] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I'd AI balance, though, to make sure there are four players per team. That way, if someone has to step out and use the restroom, you can still have balanced teams, and the AIs do death match quite well, even if they don't play as a team very well
[2024-06-29 23:27:06] <Lucifer_arma_> ok, so use zones v2 and do this:
[2024-06-29 23:27:06] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| ok, so use zones v2 and do this:
[2024-06-29 23:27:37] <Lucifer_arma_> four arenas, each of the four walls in each arena contains a hole with a passage to another arena. They'll cross as needed. Set your spawn points so that each team has a hole right behind it.
[2024-06-29 23:27:38] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| four arenas, each of the four walls in each arena contains a hole with a passage to another arena. They'll cross as needed. Set your spawn points so that each team has a hole right behind it.
[2024-06-29 23:28:03] <Lucifer_arma_> For the longer passages, add a zone that increases their speed, so that it takes the same amount of time to travel the long way to a new area as it takes to go the short way
[2024-06-29 23:28:03] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| For the longer passages, add a zone that increases their speed, so that it takes the same amount of time to travel the long way to a new area as it takes to go the short way
[2024-06-29 23:28:54] <Lucifer_arma_> you'll want to draw the longer, faster passageways in a way that they're easy to traverse so the teams that spawn near those aren't disadvantaged because of them
[2024-06-29 23:28:54] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| you'll want to draw the longer, faster passageways in a way that they're easy to traverse so the teams that spawn near those aren't disadvantaged because of them
[2024-06-29 23:29:40] <Lucifer_arma_> and, of course, it won't take long for players to figure out that they might block those passageways, but that's just more fun :)
[2024-06-29 23:29:40] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| and, of course, it won't take long for players to figure out that they might block those passageways, but that's just more fun :)
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[2024-06-30 10:07:40] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| Right, how do I make this sound like I'm a badass action hereo? I just pried open a grate to a ventilation shaft, climbed in, and saved a little birdie!
[2024-06-30 10:07:40] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| Right, how do I make this sound like I'm a badass action hereo? I just pried open a grate to a ventilation shaft, climbed in, and saved a little birdie!
[2024-06-30 10:08:06] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| (The grate was really already loose, no prying required, just a gentle push)
[2024-06-30 10:08:06] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| (The grate was really already loose, no prying required, just a gentle push)
[2024-06-30 10:09:18] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| (Also, it was a vertical ventilation shaft, like 3 m wide, 1 m deep and 4 m high, so really comfortable to stand in, no crawling or greasing up required)
[2024-06-30 10:09:18] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| (Also, it was a vertical ventilation shaft, like 3 m wide, 1 m deep and 4 m high, so really comfortable to stand in, no crawling or greasing up required)
[2024-06-30 10:10:06] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| (The opening was also 1.5 m time 1.5 m, so it was more 'stepping in' than 'climbing')
[2024-06-30 10:10:06] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| (The opening was also 1.5 m time 1.5 m, so it was more 'stepping in' than 'climbing')
[2024-06-30 10:32:09] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| @zman_0 's ears perked up at the faint sound of tweeting, like an avian coir trapped in a steel jungle. With a burst of speed that would make a cheetah blush, he lunged at the ventilation grate, which didn't stand a chance against his "gentle" push. The metal barrier fell away like a piece of wet cardboard, revealing the cavernous vertical shaft beyond. Z-man didn't climb in; he <clipped message>
[2024-06-30 10:32:09] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| @zman_0 's ears perked up at the faint sound of tweeting, like an avian coir trapped in a steel jungle. With a burst of speed that would make a cheetah blush, he lunged at the ventilation grate, which didn't stand a chance against his "gentle" push. The metal barrier fell away like a piece of wet cardboard, revealing the cavernous vertical shaft beyond. Z-man didn't climb in; he <clipped message>
[2024-06-30 10:32:09] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| swaggered, with the kind of confidence you usually only see in movie stars and toddlers with ice cream. The shaft, wide enough to host a game of ping-pong, barely had time to register his presence before he spotted the source of the noise—a tiny bird, perched precariously on a ledge.
[2024-06-30 10:32:09] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| swaggered, with the kind of confidence you usually only see in movie stars and toddlers with ice cream. The shaft, wide enough to host a game of ping-pong, barely had time to register his presence before he spotted the source of the noise—a tiny bird, perched precariously on a ledge.
[2024-06-30 10:32:10] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| In a scene straight out of a blockbuster, Z-man sprang into action. With a leap that could put a kangaroo to shame, he reached the bird in a single bound, scooping it up with the precision of a seasoned acrobat. The little bird chirped in surprise as Z-man cradled it gently, a stark contrast to his previous explosive entry. "Don't worry, little guy," he quipped, "Z-man's got you. <clipped message>
[2024-06-30 10:32:10] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| In a scene straight out of a blockbuster, Z-man sprang into action. With a leap that could put a kangaroo to shame, he reached the bird in a single bound, scooping it up with the precision of a seasoned acrobat. The little bird chirped in surprise as Z-man cradled it gently, a stark contrast to his previous explosive entry. "Don't worry, little guy," he quipped, "Z-man's got you. <clipped message>
[2024-06-30 10:32:12] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| " With a flourish, he stepped back out of the shaft, bird in hand, leaving the scene as dramatically as he had entered, all in a day's work for the ever-daring Z-man.
[2024-06-30 10:32:12] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| " With a flourish, he stepped back out of the shaft, bird in hand, leaving the scene as dramatically as he had entered, all in a day's work for the ever-daring Z-man.
[2024-06-30 10:32:24] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| - Source: AI
[2024-06-30 10:32:24] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| - Source: AI
[2024-06-30 10:32:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| > AI
[2024-06-30 10:32:45] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I thought it sounded derivative lmao
[2024-06-30 10:32:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| > AI
[2024-06-30 10:32:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I thought it sounded derivative lmao
[2024-06-30 11:06:53] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| @rudycantfail. I did say that, so full points on that front!
[2024-06-30 11:06:53] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| @rudycantfail. I did say that, so full points on that front!
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