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[2024-12-28 12:56:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| It bothers me that a kernel can break something as simple as the display pipeline. There has to be mroe to it than that
[2024-12-28 12:56:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| It bothers me that a kernel can break something as simple as the display pipeline. There has to be mroe to it than that
[2024-12-28 14:54:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| As you said deli, it is Canonical
[2024-12-28 14:54:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| As you said deli, it is Canonical
[2024-12-28 14:55:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| well no, this wa sa third party kernel. Stuff like peripheral hardware should be behind, imo, a layer of abstraction separate tot eh kernel itself
[2024-12-28 14:55:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| well no, this wa sa third party kernel. Stuff like peripheral hardware should be behind, imo, a layer of abstraction separate tot eh kernel itself
[2024-12-28 14:55:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| maybe that's the reason mesa is the way it is
[2024-12-28 14:55:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| maybe that's the reason mesa is the way it is
[2024-12-28 14:59:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i still dont get why not just use a generic kernel
[2024-12-28 14:59:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i still dont get why not just use a generic kernel
[2024-12-28 15:04:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| well you know yourself, the linux kernel is pretty bloated
[2024-12-28 15:04:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| well you know yourself, the linux kernel is pretty bloated
[2024-12-28 15:04:37] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| too right
[2024-12-28 15:04:37] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| too right
[2024-12-28 15:10:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf thats also the foss thing - experiment, hack and crack, make it your own, etc etc
[2024-12-28 15:10:50] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf thats also the foss thing - experiment, hack and crack, make it your own, etc etc
[2024-12-28 15:23:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i installed the custom kernel because i was having trouble with bluetooth headset compatibility. someone on the IRC recommended a custom kernel with more drivers.
[2024-12-28 15:23:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i installed the custom kernel because i was having trouble with bluetooth headset compatibility. someone on the IRC recommended a custom kernel with more drivers.
[2024-12-28 15:23:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hmmmm
[2024-12-28 15:23:36] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Hmmmm
[2024-12-28 15:23:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| seems to work fine now though
[2024-12-28 15:23:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| seems to work fine now though
[2024-12-28 15:24:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| that sounds like a bit of a stretch to me, but given the position of the display stuff... maybe so
[2024-12-28 15:24:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| that sounds like a bit of a stretch to me, but given the position of the display stuff... maybe so
[2024-12-28 15:24:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wonder what happened to bluez, that used to be the go-to for bt compatibility
[2024-12-28 15:24:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wonder what happened to bluez, that used to be the go-to for bt compatibility
[2024-12-28 15:25:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| idk, it's not in the jammy repository
[2024-12-28 15:25:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| idk, it's not in the jammy repository
[2024-12-28 15:25:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| closest they have is "bluej"
[2024-12-28 15:25:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| closest they have is "bluej"
[2024-12-28 15:25:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| and it's a snap program
[2024-12-28 15:25:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| and it's a snap program
[2024-12-28 15:26:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh, apparently its very deprecated
[2024-12-28 15:26:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh, apparently its very deprecated
[2024-12-28 15:26:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| now i'm tinkering with windowmaker. trying to get it to look good and function well.
[2024-12-28 15:26:30] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| now i'm tinkering with windowmaker. trying to get it to look good and function well.
[2024-12-28 15:26:30] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| typical deprecation of useful programs for less useful ones
[2024-12-28 15:26:30] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| typical deprecation of useful programs for less useful ones
[2024-12-28 15:26:42] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| wait no, its not, its just som eutils that were prepackaged with it
[2024-12-28 15:26:42] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| wait no, its not, its just som eutils that were prepackaged with it
[2024-12-28 15:27:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| trying to find themes for something this old is a pain though
[2024-12-28 15:27:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| trying to find themes for something this old is a pain though
[2024-12-28 15:29:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| old? last release was 2023
[2024-12-28 15:29:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| old? last release was 2023
[2024-12-28 15:29:52] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:syn| almost 2 years ago
[2024-12-28 15:29:52] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:syn| almost 2 years ago
[2024-12-28 15:29:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ah p'shaw thats nothign
[2024-12-28 15:29:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ah p'shaw thats nothign
[2024-12-28 15:31:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| it's not nearly as popular as other window managers
[2024-12-28 15:31:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| it's not nearly as popular as other window managers
[2024-12-28 15:31:36] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| gozer and boxlook have a fair few
[2024-12-28 15:31:36] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| gozer and boxlook have a fair few
[2024-12-28 15:31:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| there are themes on gnome look, but trying to find good icons is hard
[2024-12-28 15:31:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| there are themes on gnome look, but trying to find good icons is hard
[2024-12-28 15:32:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf, you could probably get better results with compiz
[2024-12-28 15:32:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| tbf, you could probably get better results with compiz
[2024-12-28 15:32:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| including restoring win95/8 animations
[2024-12-28 15:32:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| including restoring win95/8 animations
[2024-12-28 15:32:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| compiz?
[2024-12-28 15:32:41] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| compiz?
[2024-12-28 15:33:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| oh man that brings back memories now that i see it
[2024-12-28 15:33:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| oh man that brings back memories now that i see it
[2024-12-28 15:33:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i used to use fedora quite a lot in high school
[2024-12-28 15:33:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i used to use fedora quite a lot in high school
[2024-12-28 15:33:19] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| compositing wm
[2024-12-28 15:33:19] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| compositing wm
[2024-12-28 15:33:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| still works
[2024-12-28 15:33:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| still works
[2024-12-28 15:33:46] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| well i'm shooting for the 80's look for the windowmaker setup
[2024-12-28 15:33:46] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| well i'm shooting for the 80's look for the windowmaker setup
[2024-12-28 15:33:59] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| the xfce setup is a different story
[2024-12-28 15:33:59] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| the xfce setup is a different story
[2024-12-28 15:34:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| o
[2024-12-28 15:34:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| o
[2024-12-28 15:34:13] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| win 9x, that's just the window title minimizing as animation right?
[2024-12-28 15:34:13] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| win 9x, that's just the window title minimizing as animation right?
[2024-12-28 15:34:19] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| trinity desktop's window manager does that
[2024-12-28 15:34:19] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| trinity desktop's window manager does that
[2024-12-28 15:34:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, xfce with compiz over xfwm might help
[2024-12-28 15:34:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| well, xfce with compiz over xfwm might help
[2024-12-28 15:34:54] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| without compositing
[2024-12-28 15:34:54] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| without compositing
[2024-12-28 15:34:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| also app/start menu scrolling, sidemenu sliders, a few other gimmicks
[2024-12-28 15:34:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| also app/start menu scrolling, sidemenu sliders, a few other gimmicks
[2024-12-28 15:35:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| keep in mind this is also a learning experience as well. i've already started configuring windowmaker. i wanted to get that figured out first.
[2024-12-28 15:35:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| keep in mind this is also a learning experience as well. i've already started configuring windowmaker. i wanted to get that figured out first.
[2024-12-28 15:35:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm just a compiz nerd thats all. I would run it on plasma, only kwin supports window rules which are kinda necessary with three monitors
[2024-12-28 15:35:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm just a compiz nerd thats all. I would run it on plasma, only kwin supports window rules which are kinda necessary with three monitors
[2024-12-28 15:35:54] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| and no, devilspie never seems to work
[2024-12-28 15:35:54] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| and no, devilspie never seems to work
[2024-12-28 15:38:58] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| holy shit i just hit windowmaker gold
[2024-12-28 15:38:58] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| holy shit i just hit windowmaker gold
[2024-12-28 15:39:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| so many themes
[2024-12-28 15:39:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| so many themes
[2024-12-28 15:39:08] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| o?
[2024-12-28 15:39:08] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| o?
[2024-12-28 15:39:12] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| where at
[2024-12-28 15:39:12] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| where at
[2024-12-28 15:39:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| lonelymachines.org
[2024-12-28 15:39:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| lonelymachines.org
[2024-12-28 15:39:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| it's linked on the windowmaker website
[2024-12-28 15:39:41] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| it's linked on the windowmaker website
[2024-12-28 15:40:27] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh, I found this too for your win9x icons: https://winclassic.net/thread/1012
[2024-12-28 15:40:27] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| oh, I found this too for your win9x icons: https://winclassic.net/thread/1012
[2024-12-28 15:45:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| thanks i'll try it out later
[2024-12-28 15:45:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| thanks i'll try it out later
[2024-12-28 15:46:11] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| the issue with windowmaker though is it doesn't scan recursively for icons and the icon picker doesn't allow manual paths at all.
[2024-12-28 15:46:11] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| the issue with windowmaker though is it doesn't scan recursively for icons and the icon picker doesn't allow manual paths at all.
[2024-12-28 15:46:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| so i'd have to rig something up
[2024-12-28 15:46:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| so i'd have to rig something up
[2024-12-28 16:54:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i just rigged up something REALLY janky. i couldn't find a way to keep gtk settings for window manager separate from the xubuntu default so i created two shortcuts on the dock. one enables the config by renaming it to the proper name, the other disables the config by renaming it.
[2024-12-28 16:54:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i just rigged up something REALLY janky. i couldn't find a way to keep gtk settings for window manager separate from the xubuntu default so i created two shortcuts on the dock. one enables the config by renaming it to the proper name, the other disables the config by renaming it.
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[2024-12-28 20:13:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| ok turns out xfce handles that config on it's own so doing that wasn't needed. it's totally separate from the manual config
[2024-12-28 20:13:24] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| ok turns out xfce handles that config on it's own so doing that wasn't needed. it's totally separate from the manual config
[2024-12-28 20:17:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| it's almost perfect now, just one small issue
[2024-12-28 20:17:06] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| it's almost perfect now, just one small issue
[2024-12-28 20:17:07] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1322735111770341469/Screenshot_2024-12-28_20-16-02.png?ex=6771f491&is=6770a311&hm=6c22b1eb172119546458b44f7c668a91a3822ee0a42e468ad975a21be4888574&
[2024-12-28 20:17:07] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1322735111770341469/Screenshot_2024-12-28_20-16-02.png?ex=6771f491&is=6770a311&hm=6c22b1eb172119546458b44f7c668a91a3822ee0a42e468ad975a21be4888574&
[2024-12-28 20:17:29] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| some programs have black borders
[2024-12-28 20:17:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| some programs have black borders
[2024-12-28 20:26:53] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| is this with gtk3-nocsd?
[2024-12-28 20:26:53] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| is this with gtk3-nocsd?
[2024-12-28 20:28:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| how would i check that? i know it's gtk3, but i don't know what nocsd means
[2024-12-28 20:28:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| how would i check that? i know it's gtk3, but i don't know what nocsd means
[2024-12-28 20:28:47] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| its a package that does a preload hack to disable client side decorations in gtk 3 applications
[2024-12-28 20:28:47] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| its a package that does a preload hack to disable client side decorations in gtk 3 applications
[2024-12-28 20:29:35] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| looks like that's already installed
[2024-12-28 20:29:35] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| looks like that's already installed
[2024-12-28 20:30:04] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i don't know if it's running though
[2024-12-28 20:30:04] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i don't know if it's running though
[2024-12-28 20:30:50] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| when i try to run it it gives this error:
[2024-12-28 20:30:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| when i try to run it it gives this error:
[2024-12-28 20:30:51] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| /usr/bin/gtk3-nocsd: 88: exec: /.gtk3-nocsd./gtk3-nocsd: not found
[2024-12-28 20:30:51] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| /usr/bin/gtk3-nocsd: 88: exec: /.gtk3-nocsd./gtk3-nocsd: not found
[2024-12-28 20:34:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| ah ok, when i provide an application as an argument it launces the application. but it didn't fix the black borders
[2024-12-28 20:34:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| ah ok, when i provide an application as an argument it launces the application. but it didn't fix the black borders
[2024-12-28 21:11:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| here's a screenshot of the desktop with rhythmbox running
[2024-12-28 21:11:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| here's a screenshot of the desktop with rhythmbox running
[2024-12-28 21:11:01] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1322748678791888896/Screenshot_2024-12-28_20-27-34.png?ex=67720134&is=6770afb4&hm=9184681eed02cc3cfac3d0ecd51bc2e06ca60875bae91ece8cb6cd1b9d9dffab&
[2024-12-28 21:11:01] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1322748678791888896/Screenshot_2024-12-28_20-27-34.png?ex=67720134&is=6770afb4&hm=9184681eed02cc3cfac3d0ecd51bc2e06ca60875bae91ece8cb6cd1b9d9dffab&
[2024-12-28 21:11:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| it's gorgeous
[2024-12-28 21:12:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| it's gorgeous
[2024-12-28 21:19:16] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| If you like eye-candy and nice looking desktops, you may want to look into "Enlightenment" DE. You can do more with aesthetics than in any other DE. IIRC you can have animations and non-rectangular windows etc. Also, by todays standards, its pretty lightweight.
[2024-12-28 21:19:16] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| If you like eye-candy and nice looking desktops, you may want to look into "Enlightenment" DE. You can do more with aesthetics than in any other DE. IIRC you can have animations and non-rectangular windows etc. Also, by todays standards, its pretty lightweight.
[2024-12-28 21:20:19] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| https://www.enlightenment.org/
[2024-12-28 21:20:19] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| https://www.enlightenment.org/
[2024-12-28 21:21:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i'll check it out once i get the hard drive bay set up. i'm planning on getting a bunch of low capacity SSDs and a nice hard drive bay so i can swap them easily. that way i can just swap operating systems on the fly.
[2024-12-28 21:21:05] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i'll check it out once i get the hard drive bay set up. i'm planning on getting a bunch of low capacity SSDs and a nice hard drive bay so i can swap them easily. that way i can just swap operating systems on the fly.
[2024-12-28 21:21:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i wanna experiment
[2024-12-28 21:21:14] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| i wanna experiment
[2024-12-28 21:21:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| nice
[2024-12-28 21:21:19] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| nice
[2024-12-28 21:21:28] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| sooner or later i'd like to start digging into arch
[2024-12-28 21:21:29] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| sooner or later i'd like to start digging into arch
[2024-12-28 21:21:35] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ok
[2024-12-28 21:21:35] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ok
[2024-12-28 21:21:47] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| really build something from the ground up
[2024-12-28 21:21:47] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| really build something from the ground up
[2024-12-28 21:22:04] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| have you heard of Linux from Scratch?
[2024-12-28 21:22:04] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| have you heard of Linux from Scratch?
[2024-12-28 21:22:35] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| that might be ur thing if u want to build a linux distro
[2024-12-28 21:22:35] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| that might be ur thing if u want to build a linux distro
[2024-12-28 21:22:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| or it might be too much
[2024-12-28 21:22:43] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| or it might be too much
[2024-12-28 21:22:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| idk
[2024-12-28 21:22:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| idk
[2024-12-28 21:23:00] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| honestly i'm not a real coder. i'm just installing packages and moving files around. maybe editing configs
[2024-12-28 21:23:00] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| honestly i'm not a real coder. i'm just installing packages and moving files around. maybe editing configs
[2024-12-28 21:23:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| thats all u do with linux from scratch
[2024-12-28 21:23:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| thats all u do with linux from scratch
[2024-12-28 21:23:26] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| oh cool then
[2024-12-28 21:23:26] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| oh cool then
[2024-12-28 21:23:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but it takes it to the extreme
[2024-12-28 21:23:34] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but it takes it to the extreme
[2024-12-28 21:23:44] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| it may be too much, like i say
[2024-12-28 21:23:44] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| it may be too much, like i say
[2024-12-28 21:23:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| hmm
[2024-12-28 21:23:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| hmm
[2024-12-28 21:24:09] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:.dualboot| well in the meantime i need to fix this glitch
[2024-12-28 21:24:09] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:.dualboot| well in the meantime i need to fix this glitch
[2024-12-28 21:24:20] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[2024-12-28 21:24:20] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
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