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Log from 2007-05-01:
--- Day changed Tue May 01 2007
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00:06 <z-man> #tea
00:06 <armabot> z-man: Fortress Café: Players (9/32): 2020, BlindMan's Dog, Failed MOT, newbÎe, ~*SP*~ ØMÊgÀ, ~|DS-t|~error, ¦Ö¦$µbzero, ¦Ö¦Qico, ¦×¥ Sticky
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00:16 <|Sticky|> does wrtlprnft run cafe fortress?
00:16 <epsy> yes
00:17 <epsy> cu
00:17 <|Sticky|> are the server logs around his site anywhere
00:17 <epsy> no
00:17 <epsy> erm, let him a message
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00:24 <ghableska> #weather 50266
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00:24 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 86.7°F (5:25 PM CDT on April 30, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 50.0°F. Pressure: 28.78 in 974.5 hPa (Falling). 
00:29 <Vanhayes> #weather saint john
00:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 7:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Periods of rain ending overnight then cloudy. Amount 5 mm. Fog patches dissipating overnight. Low plus 2.; Tuesday - Cloudy. Wind becoming northwest 20 km/h in the morning. High 9. UV index 4 or moderate. (1 more message)
00:29 <Vanhayes> #more
00:29 <armabot> Vanhayes: Tuesday night..clearing in the evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the evening. Low plus 2.; Wednesday - Cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. High 7.;
00:33 <z-man> Another kopete gripe: it does not open all channels in one window.
00:39 <DrJoeTron> #serverinfo cage
00:39 <armabot> DrJoeTron: The Lobster Cage: No online players.
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01:06 <luke-jr__> glob2 anyone?
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01:08 <ghableska> luke-jr__, is glob2 better than civ?
01:09 <spidey> lol
01:41 <luke-jr__> ghableska: yep
01:41 <luke-jr__> except when it doesn't work
01:41 <luke-jr__> glob2: /usr/include/boost/shared_ptr.hpp:253: T* boost::shared_ptr<T>::operator->() const [with T = AIEcho::Management::RessourceTracker]: Assertion `px != 0' failed.
01:41 <luke-jr__> -.-
01:41  * ghableska downloads glob2
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01:49 <ghableska> bizarre game
02:15 <GodTodd> yep it is
02:15 <GodTodd> heh
02:16 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
02:16 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Hunters Glen VIII, Plano, Texas is 77.5°F (7:21 PM CDT on April 30, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Steady).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Tuesday afternoon... 
02:22 <DrJoeTron> fuck glob2
02:22 <DrJoeTron> in the butt
02:22 <DrJoeTron> armagetron has better netcode than glob2
02:24 <GodTodd> microsoft has better netcode than glob2
02:25 <ghableska> #weather 50266
02:25 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 81.9°F (7:25 PM CDT on April 30, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 28.78 in 974.5 hPa (Falling). 
02:25 <ghableska> wtf
02:25 <|Sticky|> didnt mirosoft use bsd netcode?
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03:06 <luke-jr__> DrJoeTron: as if netcode is the most important thing in the world...
03:07 <luke-jr__> DrJoeTron: I might note that netcode is probably the *easiest* part of a game to rewrite
03:07 <DrJoeTron> well
03:07 <DrJoeTron> if you''re going to play online
03:07 <DrJoeTron> yeah
03:07 <DrJoeTron> its pretty important
03:08 <DrJoeTron> if you can't start a game
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03:08 <DrJoeTron> if its the *easest* part of a game to rewrite, why don't they just do it then
03:08 <DrJoeTron> easiest even
03:08 <DrJoeTron> since clearly it could use it
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03:43 <luke-jr__> DrJoeTron: ok, so do it
03:52 <DrJoeTron> luke-jr__ i didnt make the claim that "it's easy"
03:52 <DrJoeTron> and you go back on ignore 
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03:55 <P4> #m Lucifer* thanks...
03:55 <armabot> P4: The operation succeeded.
03:57 <luke-jr__> anyone wanna play?
03:57 <P4> luke-jr__: styball? :D
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04:17 <ghableska> #weather 50266
04:17 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 75.9°F (9:20 PM CDT on April 30, 2007). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 53.6°F. Pressure: 28.81 in 975.5 hPa (Falling). 
04:17 <luke-jr__> ghableska: wanna play?
04:17 <ghableska> no
04:18 <ghableska> first I need to figure out how to play :p
04:18 <luke-jr__> tutorial is nice
04:25 <GodTodd> #weather 75023
04:25 <armabot> GodTodd: The current temperature in Custer & Pleasant Valley, Plano, Texas is 71.1°F (9:30 PM CDT on April 30, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 29.88 in 1011.7 hPa (Rising).  Flash Flood Watch in effect through Tuesday afternoon... 
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04:35 <luke-jr__> Lucifer_arma: glob2?
04:35 <Lucifer_arma> maybe in a bit
04:36 <luke-jr__> how long?
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04:42 <xfroggy_> xfroggy, boo!
04:52 <Lucifer_arma> few more minutes, I'm still settling in, just got home from work
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05:20 <Lucifer_arma> ok, ready for glob2
05:20 <Lucifer_arma> luke-jr__: glob2?
05:21 <luke-jr__> Lucifer_arma: 15 min?
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> sure
05:21 <Lucifer_arma> anyone else?
05:26 <xfroggy> is this something similiar to freeciv?
05:30 <GodTodd> glob2 runs slow at times for me for some reason
05:30 <GodTodd> :/
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> xfroggy: sorta, but not really.  It's RTS
05:32 <Lucifer_arma> it's more like freelords, if you've played that
05:33 <Lucifer_arma> in fact, I've been meaning to find out if freelords has a network mode
05:36 <Lucifer_arma> er, wait a minute, freelords isn't the game I'm thinking about
05:49 <Lucifer_arma> I think luke divides all of his time estimates by 2
05:51 <DrJoeTron> i wanna play scorch3d later tonight
05:51 <DrJoeTron> think we can do this?
05:52 <GodTodd> no
05:59 <luke-jr__> ...
06:01 <luke-jr__> Lucifer_arma: 
06:01 <Lucifer_arma> I need to see if I've got mouse batteries real quick, hang on
06:03 <Your_mom_arma> pong
06:03 <GodTodd> ping
06:03 <Your_mom_arma> pong
06:03 <GodTodd> ping
06:03 <luke-jr__> Your_mom_arma: playing?
06:03 <luke-jr__> GodTodd: might try enablign OpenGL
06:04 <GodTodd> how?
06:04 <Your_mom_arma> aw, way to go luke, you distracted me and god todd got one past me
06:04 <luke-jr__> GodTodd: Settings
06:04 <GodTodd> in the game or in feisty?
06:04 <luke-jr__> game
06:04 <Your_mom_arma> what game arma civ scorched or glob
06:04 <luke-jr__> of course, that's assuming your OS has OpenGL already
06:05 <luke-jr__> glob2
06:07 <Your_mom_arma> g l o b = Globulation2(with horrible net code) ... (text replacement for the win)
06:08 <luke-jr__> O.o
06:08 <luke-jr__> Your_mom_arma: so fix it
06:08 <Your_mom_arma> fix what?
06:08 <luke-jr__> networking code
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> ok, I can play now
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> no batteries available, though
06:09 <luke-jr__> ...
06:09 <luke-jr__> I have plenty
06:09 <luke-jr__> and mine charge in 15 minutes
06:09 <luke-jr__> :p
06:09 <Your_mom_arma> luke, Globulation2(with horrible net code) isnt worth anyones time to fix
06:09 <Lucifer_arma> yeah it is, it's a cool game
06:09 <luke-jr__> Your_mom_arma: aww, mad cuz you lost?
06:10 <Your_mom_arma> when did i lose?
06:10 <luke-jr__> Sun morning?
06:10 <Your_mom_arma> the first game i played
06:10 <luke-jr__> :p
06:10 <Your_mom_arma> im no sore loser, otherwise i wouldnt play freeciv
06:11 <luke-jr__> sore port forwarder?
06:11 <luke-jr__> Lucifer_arma: are we going to play or not? -.-
06:11 <Your_mom_arma> Globulation2(with horrible net code) is just a watered down rts
06:11 <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, sorry, distracted playing on the stone base map
06:11 <luke-jr__> it *is* a RTS
06:12 <Your_mom_arma> arguing with luke not worth the time
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> anybody else want to play?
06:12 <Your_mom_arma> i'm game to play though
06:12 <luke-jr__> lol
06:12 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: it does have a major advantage over the rest, which is that you don't micro-manage your units
06:13 <luke-jr__> it has real teamplay too
06:13 <luke-jr__> instead of just automatic mandatory alliances
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06:13 <Lucifer_arma> hey spidey, wanna play globulation?
06:13 <Lucifer_arma> I found another game for spidey to check out, Warzone2100
06:13 <Your_mom_arma> see, i kind of prefer that. that way i could stop the globs from starving to death because the want to go to the inn all the way on the other side of my territory
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> so if you guys are playing, you need to join the game
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: build a closer inn
06:14 <luke-jr__> lol
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> also, read the docs on how the globs pick inns to go to
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> that's *very* important
06:14 <Your_mom_arma> i had inns at both end, but they would always choose the ones on the other side
06:14 <luke-jr__> well, I must say the globs *are* pretty stupid a lot
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> the globs are damn stupid
06:14 <luke-jr__> they tend to bump into each other repeatedly
06:14 <Your_mom_arma> heh
06:14 <Lucifer_arma> it's like running a civ populated by luke-jrs
06:15 <luke-jr__> Your_mom_arma: then the other side has better food
06:15 <luke-jr__> and vacancies
06:15 <Your_mom_arma> i played a local game and two of them got stuck inbetween a building
06:15 <Your_mom_arma> bah
06:15 <spidey> ?
06:15 <spidey> can i do homework and play at the sametime?
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> so is anybody else going to join this game, or should we start?
06:15 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: unlikely
06:15 <luke-jr__> spidey: sure
06:15 <spidey> then probably not :p
06:15 <Your_mom_arma> they* ends* set of buildings*
06:16 <luke-jr__> spidey: you might die since it'd be your first time tho
06:16 <spidey> gimme a link
06:16 <spidey> but i'll be slow
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> #google globulation2
06:16 <armabot> Lucifer_arma: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> ?
06:16 <luke-jr__> Lucifer_arma: I've taken food breaks while the game was going and done pretty decent
06:16 <luke-jr__> #google Glob2
06:16 <armabot> luke-jr__: Error: Error connecting to Google.com.
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> well, I've done smoke breaks, but I wouldn't suggest it
06:16 <Lucifer_arma> http://globulation2.org/wiki/Main_Page
06:16 <luke-jr__> against AINumbe or whatever it's no problem
06:17 <Your_mom_arma> i've noticed two players can control the same Globulation2(with horrible net code) civ
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> maybe google closed their web api
06:17 <luke-jr__> even against 7 of them
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> well, that ais a bit dumb
06:17 <luke-jr__> quite
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> it only builds so much, so you jsut outbuild it
06:17 <Your_mom_arma> put in 4 war rush bots
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> also, a winning strategy is to just not attack the buildings, kill the workers
06:17 <Lucifer_arma> only ais if we all ally against them :)
06:18 <spidey> um
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: are you going to join or should we just start?
06:18 <spidey> what do i click for network game?
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> ah
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> Yggwhatever
06:18 <luke-jr__> YOG!
06:18 <luke-jr__> :p
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> then click "Playland"
06:18 <luke-jr__> "Online Gaming" is a dead giveaway
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> and "Join"
06:18 <luke-jr__> Playground*
06:18 <Lucifer_arma> then click "john"
06:19 <luke-jr__> or "joe"
06:19 <luke-jr__> oh
06:19 <luke-jr__> Lucifer_arma: what ports does spidey need to forward?
06:19 <Your_mom_arma> or tom dick or harry
06:19 <Lucifer_arma> 7000-8000 :)
06:19 <spidey> i'm dmz ftw
06:19 <luke-jr__> spidey: me too, it saves lots of trouble :p
06:19 <luke-jr__> actually, I'm just on a public IP :p
06:20 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: select Playground and click "Join"
06:20 <spidey> playground?
06:20 <luke-jr__> yeah
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06:26 <MrBougo> hello
06:43 <Your_mom_arma> hey
06:55 <MrBougo> *yawn*
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07:02 <philippeqc> Morning all
07:06 <luke-jr__> ...
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> er, wtf?
07:06 <spidey> ...
07:06 <Your_mom_arma> as long as it wasnt just me
07:06 <Your_mom_arma> hey philippeqc
07:06 <DrJoeTron> ew
07:06 <Lucifer_arma> how am I still playing?
07:06 <philippeqc> hello
07:07 <luke-jr__> dunno, it told me you all disconnected
07:07 <luke-jr__> can you reconnect, I wonder?
07:07  * luke-jr__ paused
07:07 <Lucifer_arma> its still playing locally
07:07 <luke-jr__> ..
07:08 <luke-jr__> that doesn't answer the ? :p
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> I don't see the game listed anymore
07:08 <luke-jr__> Lucifer has left YOG
07:08 <luke-jr__> :/
07:08 <luke-jr__> does LAN let you enter an IP?
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> ip address?
07:08 <Lucifer_arma> yes it does
07:08 <luke-jr__>           inet addr:65.30.29.106  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
07:09 <luke-jr__> spidey: Your_mom_arma
07:09 <Lucifer_arma> nothing
07:10 <DrJoeTron> spidey? here?
07:10 <Lucifer_arma> did mom mke it in?
07:10 <MrBougo> "not connected" luke
07:10 <Your_mom_arma> huh?
07:10 <MrBougo> i tried too
07:10 <luke-jr__> ...
07:10 <MrBougo> LAN doesnt work, becuase it isnt LAN
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> man, we were kicking ass too
07:11 <luke-jr__> try YOG now
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> hd almost wiped out one ai, and I was in the proccess of setting up to attack another
07:11 <luke-jr__> I wiped out 2 AI
07:11 <Lucifer_arma> that worked
07:12 <MrBougo> can i join too?
07:12 <MrBougo> is it that 20070501 etc?
07:12 <luke-jr__> dunno
07:12 <luke-jr__> you weren't playing
07:12 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: Your_mom_arma (hi there!) ?
07:13 <luke-jr__> everyone remember your color :p
07:13 <luke-jr__> I think we'll need it
07:13 <Your_mom_arma> hmm?
07:13 <MrBougo> i dont ge it
07:13 <Lucifer_arma> rejoin, mom
07:13 <MrBougo> "take an AI"
07:14 <MrBougo> muh
07:14 <Your_mom_arma> im still connected?
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> take over an ai
07:14 <luke-jr__> Your_mom_arma: nope
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> you're not, you're playing locally now
07:14 <Your_mom_arma> booo
07:14 <Lucifer_arma> apparently the game needs more network work than we originally thought ;)
07:14 <luke-jr__> I think we're about won
07:14 <Your_mom_arma> well im doing well
07:14 <Your_mom_arma> Globulation2(with horrible net code)
07:15 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ?
07:15 <luke-jr__> spidey probably hasn't noticed yet
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> it's kind of dumb that the game keeps playing when it breaks contact with the server
07:18 <Lucifer_arma> although I'ms tarting to suspect there isn't a single canonical server
07:18 <luke-jr__> I think it's p2p
07:19 <luke-jr__> tho it can't be
07:19 <luke-jr__> AIs must play somewhere
07:19 <Lucifer_arma> it being p2p would explain why all players have to open ports too, though
07:19 <luke-jr__> maybe MrBougo should take spidey
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> spidey: ping
07:20 <luke-jr__> it could be semi-p2p
07:20 <luke-jr__> with the host merely running the AI
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> could be
07:20 <Your_mom_arma> well, it wouldnt explain why we couldnt start when i joined the second time
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> the host also has controls players don't have
07:20 <Your_mom_arma> luke check if starts okay
07:20 <Lucifer_arma> Your_mom_arma: bugs could explain that just fine :)
07:21 <luke-jr__> Your_mom_arma: nope
07:21 <Your_mom_arma> i noticed in a local game making a flag, increasing it to max size then placing of flag of the same kind down crashes the game
07:21 <Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I was doing something similar to that
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> only I was putting an exploration flag on top of a war flag
07:22 <Lucifer_arma> but I've done that in a local game without problems...
07:22 <luke-jr__> I have a crashing save :p
07:23 <Your_mom_arma> hmm, apperently they already know about this bug http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?19671
07:24 <Your_mom_arma> can you disable fog of war? 
07:25 <luke-jr__> hm
07:25 <luke-jr__> I wonder what would happen if I took arma and made it delay the responses to "ping" packets
07:26 <Your_mom_arma> Scorched 3d?
07:27 <luke-jr__> and then claim my turns were 500ms before they were
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> sure, I can go for scorched, but I'd like to grab a smoke first if nobody minds
07:27 <luke-jr__> boo
07:27 <luke-jr__> no continue?
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> no spidey and mom can't seem to join
07:27 <Your_mom_arma> luke check Globulation2(with horrible net code) and see if start is okay
07:27 <Lucifer_arma> this is a pretty neat game though, I hope they get the bugs worked out.....
07:28 <Your_mom_arma> it would be more stomachable if the net code didnt suck so hard
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> want to try the apoc mod again?
07:29 <Your_mom_arma> we where doing pretty well this time, aside from me walling of spidey by accident
07:29 <Your_mom_arma> i reinstalled Scorched 3d
07:29 <Lucifer_arma> it's not inherently bad to wall off allies, but it would be nice if we could hae a "forbid ally" field
07:30 <Your_mom_arma> well, all of warrushes guys seemed to be coming from there, i walled it off and no more warrush
07:30 <luke-jr__> Your_mom_arma: stop breaking it
07:30 <Your_mom_arma> its obviously my fault luke-jr__
07:31 <luke-jr__> yeah
07:31 <luke-jr__> it even puts a (0) next to your name now
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07:32 <Lucifer_arma> ok, started the scorched server
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> where did spidey go?
07:32 <Your_mom_arma> i must have done something deliberate so we couldnt play because god forbid we finish a game where we have a good teamplay game working out with me doing so well
07:32 <luke-jr__> bet he's still playing
07:32 <luke-jr__> lol
07:32 <Your_mom_arma> doubt it, he was probobly stuck at 320x200 that whole time
07:32 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> well, I started a scorched server, join if you want, I'm a go grab a smoke
07:33 <luke-jr__> boo
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> when I get back, if it's still kicking mom, I'll restart it without apox
07:33 <Lucifer_arma> *apoc
07:33 <Your_mom_arma> who decided to make that the default res?
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07:36 <MrBougo> wtf?
07:43 <Lucifer_arma> did it kick you, mom?
07:43 <Your_mom_arma> nah, just wuit
07:43 <Your_mom_arma> quit
07:44 <Your_mom_arma> dont know what happened, but reinstalling fixed it
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07:44 <Lucifer_arma> heh
07:44 <Lucifer_arma> anybody else for scorched3d?
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07:54 <Lucifer_arma> DrJoeTron: ping
07:54 <DrJoeTron> paper pong
07:58 <Lucifer_arma> scorched
07:58 <Your_mom_arma> Scorched 3d servers up
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08:00 <DrJoeTron> ahh fuck it
08:00 <DrJoeTron> i'll be there soon
08:00 <Lucifer_arma> get there quick, mom needs a new target
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08:03 <DrJoeTron> :/
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08:09 <Lucifer_arma> joe?
08:09 <DrJoeTron> technical difficulties
08:09 <DrJoeTron> commin
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09:28 <MrBougo> hello
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09:46 <philippeqc> z-man: Is it possible to dynamically use the "version blocking" system to kick player out if certain new map elements are found?
09:47 <philippeqc> or am I taking the problem from the wrong side?
10:00 <z-man> It would be possible, but you need to have the map system memorize which of these elements are in use between rounds on your own. Then you can abuse the config system's version guard by having dummy config items that are marked incompatible with old versions and set them while an incompatible element is active.
10:02  * z-man switches back to konversation, Kopete does not handle suspend/resume. Name highlighting doesn't work.
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10:03 <philippeqc> I think I was aiming at that. Defined a nSettingItemWatched. At each parsing of the map, I was planning to set it back to the default, and change it away from the default if I encounter a new element
10:04 <philippeqc> but I dont know how to trigger it to re-read the element and figure it was updated.
10:04 -!- zman is now known as z-man
10:06 <z-man> I think the nSettingItemWatched has a Set()-Method that handles this automatically.
10:06  * z-man is off for breakfast
10:06 <philippeqc> ok
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11:35 <MrBougo> elo
11:41 <digitx> yello
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12:15 <digitx> hi
12:15 <digitx> brb
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12:20 <epsy> hi
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12:34 <MrBougo> wb
12:36 <digitx> ty
12:37 <digitx> #serverinfo norm's
12:37 <armabot> digitx: Norm's Place: Players (4/12): $_TrEnT_$ Spazy, %&kadab&% Juan, L2K|Fabi, wouter
12:51 <armabot> armagetronad: philippeqc * r7212 /armagetronad/branches/zone-v2-02-shape/armagetronad/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Added mechanism to kick old clients when polygon shapes are used
12:55 <MrBougo> bye
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13:15 <philippeqc> z-man: I've manage to abuse the version system to protect old clients now.
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13:16 <philippeqc> sadly now I'm observing the reversed problem that I've mentioned to you before. In this case, trunk client crash when creating a zone from branch server.
13:22 <philippeqc> I've noticed you marked the issue report as 20% done on flyspray. I was wondering if you had some hints to share, items I could investigate on my own
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13:51 <MrBougo> hello
13:51 <MrBougo> hello
13:53 <MrBougo> armabot, echo
13:53 <armabot> MrBougo: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
13:53 <MrBougo> :D
13:54 <digitx> XD
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14:07 <ackrite> re
14:08 <digitx> bye all :D
14:08 <ackrite> bye :)
14:13 <z-man> philippeqc: I did that? Strange, I haven't looked at it yet.
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14:35 <philippeqc> o maybe I saw the 20% on  something else
14:37 <philippeqc> z-man: item #40, is at 20%. Mystery!
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15:01 <MrBougo> *bored*
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15:07 <MrBougo> bye
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16:32 <epsy> #armaconfig decorate
16:32 <armabot> epsy: Sorry, no matches :S
16:32 <epsy> #armaconfig console
16:32 <armabot> epsy: CONSOLE_COLUMNS: Number of characters in each line of console output (default: 78) || CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Prints a message on the console of all connected clients. (default: ) || CONSOLE_ROWS: Number of lines of console output without user intervention (default: 5) || CONSOLE_ROWS_MAX: Number of lines of console output when scrolling back (default: 19) || HISTORY_SIZE_CONSOLE: Number of lines (1 more message)
16:32 <epsy> #armaconfig console_de
16:32 <armabot> epsy: Sorry, no matches :S
16:32 <epsy> #more
16:32 <armabot> epsy: kept in the console history. (default: 10) || KEYBOARD 96 PLAYER_BIND CONSOLE_INPUT 0 : || KEYBOARD 94 PLAYER_BIND CONSOLE_INPUT 0 : || ROUND_CONSOLE_MESSAGE: Message sent to clients after every round (default: )
16:32 <epsy> damn
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16:39 <madmax|pt> hi
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16:50 <MrBougo> hello
16:59 <P4> hi MrBougo
16:59 <MrBougo> yello
17:00 <P4> #ctwf
17:00 <armabot> P4: Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress: Players (10/14): (god), <<K.A.I.N>>, aok yoshy, BlindMan's Dog, CTT|safarizone, hand, jimmy, KING, para-normal, ~|DS|~ Plage
17:00 <P4> you havent play for a long :}
17:00 <MrBougo> #lastseen Mr. Bougo
17:00 <MrBougo> i know :p
17:00 <armabot> MrBougo: Mr. Bougo has last been seen on Fortress Café 0 days 20 hours 54 minutes ago.
17:00 <P4> MrBougo: do you know where Lokeren is?
17:01 <MrBougo> yup
17:01 <MrBougo> belgium
17:01 <P4> have you been there? :}
17:01 <MrBougo> nope
17:01 <P4> i got cousing living there
17:01 <P4> cousin*
17:01 <P4> maybe you kow Wlodek Lubanski? :}
17:01 <P4> one of famous polish fottbal player
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17:20 <MrBougo> nope
17:24 <MrBougo> bye
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17:29 <MaZuffeR> #lastseen MaZuffeR
17:30 <armabot> MaZuffeR: Not Mazuffer has last been seen on Fortress Café 5 days 21 hours 17 minutes ago.
17:30 <epsy> #lastseen epsy 
17:30 <armabot> epsy: kk~epsy has last been seen on Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress 3 days 19 hours 31 minutes ago.
17:30 <epsy> ewww
17:30 <epsy> so munch time ago
17:31  * epsy finishes the line and will go play
17:31 <MaZuffeR> i haven't played with my real name in almost two weeks
17:31 <epsy> Oo
17:46 <madmax|pt> http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/04/30/spread-this-number/ HD-DVD decryption key...
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19:29 <MrBougo> ehllo
19:29 <MrBougo> armabot, hello
19:29 <armabot> Hello MrBougo :) Random Fortune: Gypsy robot: You want to die? || Bender: No, I wanna live! There's still too many things I don't own.
19:29 <spidey> ..
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19:30 <spidey> lame
19:30 <MrBougo> ?
19:31 <MrBougo> how did you get that "unaffiliated" stuff?
19:31 <spidey> asked for it
19:31 <MrBougo> is it a proxy, bouncer, whatever?
19:31 <spidey> no
19:31 <spidey> pm a freenode staff member
19:31 <MrBougo> oh
19:34 <digitx> :)
19:37 <Lucifer_arma> haha.  I read it as "I'm a freenode staff member"
19:43 <MrBougo> wtf
19:43 <MrBougo> sometimes you read things so wrong
19:44 <MrBougo> and it goes stupid
19:44 <MrBougo> or gross
19:44 <MrBougo> or both
19:51 <luke-jr_work> lol
19:57 <MrBougo> yay!
19:57  * MrBougo is now playing: DJ Shah and Pedro Del Mar present - Mellomania USA May 2007 (D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - European Trance, Techno, Hi-NRG... we can't define it!)
19:57 <MrBougo> Mellomania!
19:57 <MrBougo> this show is amazing
19:58 <MrBougo> it always give me shivers
20:05 <MrBougo> welcome to awayland
20:05 <MrBougo> #lastseen away
20:05 <madmax|pt> trance,techno, yuck
20:05 <MrBougo> its not really techno
20:05 <MrBougo> i wonder why they put techno and hi-nrg there
20:06 <MrBougo> it's more trance, proggy trance, and proggy house
20:06 <armabot> MrBougo: timed out
20:06 <MrBougo> aw
20:06 <MrBougo> dont you like elctro?
20:08 <MrBougo> aw this track sucks
20:10 <madmax|pt> more like deep house
20:11 <MrBougo> did you lsten?
20:11 <MrBougo> deep and proggy sometimes
20:11 <MrBougo> but more trance
20:11 <MrBougo> in general
20:11 <MrBougo> i'm out
20:11 <MrBougo> cyas!
20:12 <MrBougo> nigt :)
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21:15 <Vanhayes> #armaservers
21:15 <armabot> Vanhayes: SPACEZONE III (11 players) || ¬ | D u r k a D u r k a L a n d | ¬/xff9900 (10 players) || The Arena (10 players) || Norm's Place (9 players) || Sumo Bar (8 players) || Bugfarm Elimination Sumo (7 players) || {Delicious Desserts} Custom Map (7 players) || Crazy Tronners Wild Fortress (6 players) || -=}ID< -=}Immortal Dynasty< -=}High Rubber< (6 players) || Wild West =Capture The Flag= (6 (1 more message)
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21:20 <Lucifer_arma> http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=232983&cid=18941605
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21:28 <ackrite> re
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21:56 <Vanhayes> #tea
21:56 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
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22:05 <|Sticky|> #tea
22:05 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: No online players.
22:07 <Vanhayes> #tea
22:07 <armabot> Vanhayes: Fortress Café: No online players.
22:07 <Vanhayes> liar
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22:46 <spidey> "and when i'm going to hell, and i'm getting ready to leave, i'ma put air in a bag and charge people to breathe" :D
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23:07 <armabot> armagetronad: z-man * r7213 /armagetronad/branches/zone-v2-02-shape/armagetronad/src/tron/zone/zZone.cpp: (log message trimmed)
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad: Hacky fix for the zone read crash: the zone shape is only written and read
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad: if server and all clients know about it. Potential danger: the message that
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad: tells the client if that changes may come in out of order with a zone
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad: creation message. Also, it would be good if usesShape would always be true
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad: (and removed) and the shape member pointer would always be set used;
23:07 <armabot> armagetronad: currently, the client WILL read the zone shape info whether it was written
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23:12 <ghableska> #weather 50266
23:12 <armabot> ghableska: The current temperature in West Des Moines, Iowa is 79.9°F (4:15 PM CDT on May 01, 2007). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: 32.0°F. Pressure: 28.93 in 979.6 hPa (Falling). 
23:13 <ghableska> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6612529.stm
23:22 <z-man> Stupid Defcon tournament, now I have to keep awake until 2 AM + game lengh just because a majority of idiots voted to "let players organize times themselves". Bah.
23:23 <z-man> We've got everything from GMT+8 to GMT-6 in my group :/
23:23 <z-man> And ONE FUCKING ASSHOLE WHO CAN ONLY PLAY THURSDAYS AND TUESDAYS, dammit.
23:25 <ghableska> o_O
23:25 <ghableska> keep lots of coffee nearby?
23:29 <madmax|pt> does goody use msn?
23:30 <|Sticky|> whats defcon?
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23:32 <ghableska> |Sticky|, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defcon_(game)
23:34 <|Sticky|> interesting,  this got a single player ability?
23:35 <ghableska> single and multiplayer
23:35 <|Sticky|> bugger no linux version
23:35 <ghableska> but multiplayer is much more fun :D
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23:37 <|Sticky|> altho linux version is "coming soon"
23:37 <|Sticky|> #tea
23:37 <armabot> |Sticky|: Fortress Café: No online players.
23:41 <Vanhayes> #serverinfo elim
23:41 <armabot> Vanhayes: Bugfarm Elimination Sumo: Players (13/16): -*$P*-<y<lo, Digbert Humples, digthafreeworld, indica, madmax, Nasa, Raidon, Sativa, ShowHealion, Vanhayes, }HAWK{, ~|DS-T|~ error, ¦Ö¦FoFo
23:41 <ghableska> hmm
23:41 <ghableska> popular
23:42 <|Sticky|> yeah its not a good time to be a player that dosnt like sumo
23:43 <z-man> |Sticky|: there is a linux beta version of Defcon available: http://forums.introversion.co.uk/defcon/viewtopic.php?t=4016&highlight=
23:43 <z-man> mmm, coffee.
23:43 <|Sticky|> why are crazy people playing tron on battery?
23:44 <|Sticky|> surely the battery life while palying will be a few min...unless you accept >30 fps
23:44 <|Sticky|> z-man: thanks for the link
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23:52 <Vanhayes> elimination tourney starts in 4 minutes, if anyone wanted to know
23:53 <luke-jr_work> liar
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