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[2024-06-08 07:56:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| wtf is this
[2024-06-08 07:56:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| wtf is this
[2024-06-08 07:56:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1248968840520667267/image.png?ex=66659860&is=666446e0&hm=e271e1f9507a08c0f54de9e436824d8fe3d6dd89e919adb9fc6ef2b3b1da13d2&
[2024-06-08 07:56:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1248968840520667267/image.png?ex=66659860&is=666446e0&hm=e271e1f9507a08c0f54de9e436824d8fe3d6dd89e919adb9fc6ef2b3b1da13d2&
[2024-06-08 07:56:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| why are we making new users solve some sort of equation to join a community
[2024-06-08 07:56:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| why are we making new users solve some sort of equation to join a community
[2024-06-08 07:56:34] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| some srs boomer shit
[2024-06-08 07:56:34] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| some srs boomer shit
[2024-06-08 07:56:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| we have mods for a reason
[2024-06-08 07:56:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| we have mods for a reason
[2024-06-08 08:24:54] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol it seemed pretty easy to me
[2024-06-08 08:24:54] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Lol it seemed pretty easy to me
[2024-06-08 08:25:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Equation he says LOL
[2024-06-08 08:25:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Equation he says LOL
[2024-06-08 08:26:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly for my experience of running the discord server it is 100% necessary because people don't like to read anything so they'll just skip it so if you actually want them to read the rules then yes you need stuff like this
[2024-06-08 08:26:46] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly for my experience of running the discord server it is 100% necessary because people don't like to read anything so they'll just skip it so if you actually want them to read the rules then yes you need stuff like this
[2024-06-08 08:31:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i ran a discord server from 500 members to 15k and all we needed was a "what country are you from"
[2024-06-08 08:31:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i ran a discord server from 500 members to 15k and all we needed was a "what country are you from"
[2024-06-08 08:34:09] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| what is the value proposition here?
[2024-06-08 08:34:09] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| what is the value proposition here?
[2024-06-08 08:34:25] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| why should new members who know nothing about this game spend any sort of brainpower for this?
[2024-06-08 08:34:25] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| why should new members who know nothing about this game spend any sort of brainpower for this?
[2024-06-08 08:35:56] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well honestly I don't see a lot of value in the discord for new users anyways, other than maybe a place to ask questions I guess
[2024-06-08 08:35:56] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well honestly I don't see a lot of value in the discord for new users anyways, other than maybe a place to ask questions I guess
[2024-06-08 08:37:07] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| exactly
[2024-06-08 08:37:07] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| exactly
[2024-06-08 08:37:07] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I suppose in my discord we didn't want people to be in it if they weren't going to put in any effort to read the rules and understand how things work so idk maybe my experience doesn't apply
[2024-06-08 08:37:07] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I suppose in my discord we didn't want people to be in it if they weren't going to put in any effort to read the rules and understand how things work so idk maybe my experience doesn't apply
[2024-06-08 08:37:11] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| so why should they do this
[2024-06-08 08:37:11] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| so why should they do this
[2024-06-08 08:37:32] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Why should they join at all at that rate?
[2024-06-08 08:37:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Why should they join at all at that rate?
[2024-06-08 08:37:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| because they literally need to
[2024-06-08 08:37:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| because they literally need to
[2024-06-08 08:37:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if they want to play pickup
[2024-06-08 08:37:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if they want to play pickup
[2024-06-08 08:37:53] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| As a new player I definitely want it be adding and pick up lol
[2024-06-08 08:37:54] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| As a new player I definitely want it be adding and pick up lol
[2024-06-08 08:38:03] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| *Would not
[2024-06-08 08:38:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| *Would not
[2024-06-08 08:39:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| ???
[2024-06-08 08:39:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| ???
[2024-06-08 08:39:40] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| the fact is ive seen multiple new players now want to get involved and learn and this gateway is just arbitrary gatekeeping
[2024-06-08 08:39:40] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| the fact is ive seen multiple new players now want to get involved and learn and this gateway is just arbitrary gatekeeping
[2024-06-08 08:40:08] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i didnt even know this existed, im certainly not going to send people to the discord now to learn more when they literally cant
[2024-06-08 08:40:08] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i didnt even know this existed, im certainly not going to send people to the discord now to learn more when they literally cant
[2024-06-08 08:40:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| without sitting and reading some random stuff that doesnt even apply to them
[2024-06-08 08:40:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| without sitting and reading some random stuff that doesnt even apply to them
[2024-06-08 08:41:32] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well either way I don't see how it's hard to type in don't be mean lol I really don't get the issue
[2024-06-08 08:41:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well either way I don't see how it's hard to type in don't be mean lol I really don't get the issue
[2024-06-08 08:42:37] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Although we may have some new people joining pickups I also see a lot of new people show up try it out get destroyed by other players and never play again lol and that's just pub sumo
[2024-06-08 08:42:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Although we may have some new people joining pickups I also see a lot of new people show up try it out get destroyed by other players and never play again lol and that's just pub sumo
[2024-06-08 08:43:18] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| how do you think i acquired this screenshot
[2024-06-08 08:43:18] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| how do you think i acquired this screenshot
[2024-06-08 08:43:39] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Back when I was brand new to this game I only played high rubber cuz everything else was too hard LOL but I was like 13 14 so there is that
[2024-06-08 08:43:39] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Back when I was brand new to this game I only played high rubber cuz everything else was too hard LOL but I was like 13 14 so there is that
[2024-06-08 08:43:45] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But a lot of our newer players will be of that age
[2024-06-08 08:43:45] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| But a lot of our newer players will be of that age
[2024-06-08 08:44:36] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I assume you got the screenshot because somebody was too dumb to be able to figure it out I imagine they probably needed a hand holding just to install the game and find the server list...
[2024-06-08 08:44:36] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I assume you got the screenshot because somebody was too dumb to be able to figure it out I imagine they probably needed a hand holding just to install the game and find the server list...
[2024-06-08 08:45:06] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| wow
[2024-06-08 08:45:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| wow
[2024-06-08 08:48:47] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sorry for being harsh, I don't need to put my opinion up here if it's not being helpful so I'll put a lid on it
[2024-06-08 08:48:47] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Sorry for being harsh, I don't need to put my opinion up here if it's not being helpful so I'll put a lid on it
[2024-06-08 08:50:14] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| this is exactly the mindset im trying to change
[2024-06-08 08:50:14] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| this is exactly the mindset im trying to change
[2024-06-08 08:50:30] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| people thinking the kids are dumb because they just wanna play
[2024-06-08 08:50:30] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| people thinking the kids are dumb because they just wanna play
[2024-06-08 08:50:41] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| not read a fucking bible
[2024-06-08 08:50:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| not read a fucking bible
[2024-06-08 08:51:42] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well personally I kind of agree cuz I don't think that discord and pick up games is the right answer for kids these days, I think just people in public servers would be more helpful
[2024-06-08 08:51:42] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Well personally I kind of agree cuz I don't think that discord and pick up games is the right answer for kids these days, I think just people in public servers would be more helpful
[2024-06-08 08:51:57] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean if this game was just pick up games on discord when I started playing I probably wouldn't be here now
[2024-06-08 08:51:57] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I mean if this game was just pick up games on discord when I started playing I probably wouldn't be here now
[2024-06-08 08:52:32] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Like I said when I was a kid and this game was hard I only played high rubber servers nice and casual, playing sumo these days even for me is crazy sometimes with how good everyone is
[2024-06-08 08:52:32] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Like I said when I was a kid and this game was hard I only played high rubber servers nice and casual, playing sumo these days even for me is crazy sometimes with how good everyone is
[2024-06-08 09:13:25] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| there's discord's built in stuff now which would replace this, i've looked at it multiple times and decided to do nothing so far because there was zero positive or negative feedback (don't change it if it's not broken)
[2024-06-08 09:13:25] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| there's discord's built in stuff now which would replace this, i've looked at it multiple times and decided to do nothing so far because there was zero positive or negative feedback (don't change it if it's not broken)
[2024-06-08 09:14:53] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| i've seen many other servers with similar systems so i don't know what's best tbh
[2024-06-08 09:14:53] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ninjapotato1080| i've seen many other servers with similar systems so i don't know what's best tbh
[2024-06-08 09:24:29] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Discord's built-in system is probably a little simpler so for the sake of syn's argument that would be an improvement
[2024-06-08 09:24:29] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Discord's built-in system is probably a little simpler so for the sake of syn's argument that would be an improvement
[2024-06-08 09:24:38] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| With that one you just clicked the little check marks and that's it done
[2024-06-08 09:24:38] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| With that one you just clicked the little check marks and that's it done
[2024-06-08 09:25:50] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Or you could say that it's enough that they just get sent to that page automatically when they join and if they choose to read it they do if they don't oh well cuz really having to confirm the rules isn't really going to make them read it anyways
[2024-06-08 09:25:51] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Or you could say that it's enough that they just get sent to that page automatically when they join and if they choose to read it they do if they don't oh well cuz really having to confirm the rules isn't really going to make them read it anyways
[2024-06-08 11:04:52] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc That page exists to ensure that new users read a ruleset. We make exceptions for people who don't speak great english, or who don't quite understand what is being asked for them. 
[2024-06-08 11:04:52] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| @syn_acc That page exists to ensure that new users read a ruleset. We make exceptions for people who don't speak great english, or who don't quite understand what is being asked for them. 
[2024-06-08 11:04:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The entire process exists because we needed a way to make our stance on community behaviour extremely obvious. We had a very specific issue that resulted in a community member being suspended from the community because they put other members at risk of harm. Thus far, I've only needed to help two or three people with the process, and it appears to have been mostly effective - bar <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 11:04:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The entire process exists because we needed a way to make our stance on community behaviour extremely obvious. We had a very specific issue that resulted in a community member being suspended from the community because they put other members at risk of harm. Thus far, I've only needed to help two or three people with the process, and it appears to have been mostly effective - bar <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 11:04:55] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent|  the odd troll here and there. The reason for this as opposed to Discord's vague attempt at the same is because answering the question *requires* the individual to read the rules. The answer, too, is a generalisation that, if they have trouble understanding the rules proper, at least gives them an idea of why the rules exist - as they say, rules are written in blood.
[2024-06-08 11:04:55] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent|  the odd troll here and there. The reason for this as opposed to Discord's vague attempt at the same is because answering the question *requires* the individual to read the rules. The answer, too, is a generalisation that, if they have trouble understanding the rules proper, at least gives them an idea of why the rules exist - as they say, rules are written in blood.
[2024-06-08 11:12:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I actually spoke with the player who I made some rude comments about and did Apologize to him or her and found out that it was more of a language barrier issue and of course had nothing to do with intelligence or the complexity of the rules confirmation thing
[2024-06-08 11:12:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I actually spoke with the player who I made some rude comments about and did Apologize to him or her and found out that it was more of a language barrier issue and of course had nothing to do with intelligence or the complexity of the rules confirmation thing
[2024-06-08 11:46:48] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1249026857223979128/image0.jpg?ex=6665ce68&is=66647ce8&hm=e07667d9e63991fe2de745d76a732ff74690eb678be39c6cc6acc9e2ce35593a&
[2024-06-08 11:46:49] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/209759416604426242/1249026857223979128/image0.jpg?ex=6665ce68&is=66647ce8&hm=e07667d9e63991fe2de745d76a732ff74690eb678be39c6cc6acc9e2ce35593a&
[2024-06-08 11:47:16] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| “I’ve only needed to help 2 or 3 people”
[2024-06-08 11:47:16] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| “I’ve only needed to help 2 or 3 people”
[2024-06-08 11:49:32] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| Aye, you might be right. Nevertheless, Discord's approach is a box ticking exercise that nobody pays attention to.
[2024-06-08 11:49:32] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| Aye, you might be right. Nevertheless, Discord's approach is a box ticking exercise that nobody pays attention to.
[2024-06-08 11:50:06] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Why do we need them to pay so much attention
[2024-06-08 11:50:06] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Why do we need them to pay so much attention
[2024-06-08 11:50:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| because the idea is to prevent people being shit to each other in the first place, not manage the fallout when it happens
[2024-06-08 11:50:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| because the idea is to prevent people being shit to each other in the first place, not manage the fallout when it happens
[2024-06-08 11:51:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| fine whatever
[2024-06-08 11:51:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| fine whatever
[2024-06-08 11:52:34] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| To be utterly clear, the event I specifically referred to might have lead to risk of physical injury or other serious harm had it happened to other, more vulnerable, individuals in the community. Can't be having that.
[2024-06-08 11:52:34] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| To be utterly clear, the event I specifically referred to might have lead to risk of physical injury or other serious harm had it happened to other, more vulnerable, individuals in the community. Can't be having that.
[2024-06-08 11:52:54] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| no risk no reward
[2024-06-08 11:52:54] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| no risk no reward
[2024-06-08 11:52:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| if you don’t get it i can’t change that
[2024-06-08 11:53:00] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| if you don’t get it i can’t change that
[2024-06-08 11:53:05] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| this is the internet
[2024-06-08 11:53:05] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| this is the internet
[2024-06-08 11:53:24] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| you’re not responsible for anybody’s wellbeing here
[2024-06-08 11:53:24] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| you’re not responsible for anybody’s wellbeing here
[2024-06-08 11:55:12] <armagetron-bridge> 12discord:zman_0| That's an asshole attitude, just saying.
[2024-06-08 11:55:12] <armagetronbridge> 12discord:zman_0| That's an asshole attitude, just saying.
[2024-06-08 11:55:44] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| The internet can and does have real life consequences for people, especially nowadays. I'm not going to get into specifics as to the how or the why for fear of unintentionally doing exactly the same thing, but I would not be best pleased if I were in the position of such a person and had been compromised in such a fashion as occurred. Unfortunately, we are very much responsible f <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 11:55:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| The internet can and does have real life consequences for people, especially nowadays. I'm not going to get into specifics as to the how or the why for fear of unintentionally doing exactly the same thing, but I would not be best pleased if I were in the position of such a person and had been compromised in such a fashion as occurred. Unfortunately, we are very much responsible f <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 11:55:44] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| or the safety of the community at large - and for what its worth, we spent quite a while consulting with the affected persons as to how to proceed.
[2024-06-08 11:55:45] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| or the safety of the community at large - and for what its worth, we spent quite a while consulting with the affected persons as to how to proceed.
[2024-06-08 11:56:33] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Agreed. Not proud of that stance, but it is one I hold. Todays internet is filled with oppression olympics where the moral virtue belongs with the one who is hurt the most. It's unfair on everyone else.
[2024-06-08 11:56:33] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Agreed. Not proud of that stance, but it is one I hold. Todays internet is filled with oppression olympics where the moral virtue belongs with the one who is hurt the most. It's unfair on everyone else.
[2024-06-08 11:57:38] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| It goes back to our conversations about regulation more generally. This creep of authority because of single issues creates a wall that you cannot see through
[2024-06-08 11:57:38] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| It goes back to our conversations about regulation more generally. This creep of authority because of single issues creates a wall that you cannot see through
[2024-06-08 11:57:53] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| We should put a pin in this. We don't agree, which is fine, but it's getting a bit spicy for my liking
[2024-06-08 11:57:53] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| We should put a pin in this. We don't agree, which is fine, but it's getting a bit spicy for my liking
[2024-06-08 11:58:31] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| sure, just trying to break down barriers, nothing against anyone particularly
[2024-06-08 11:58:31] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| sure, just trying to break down barriers, nothing against anyone particularly
[2024-06-08 12:19:58] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I'm not going to get into this conversation other than to point out one thing, and I won't be responding to the topic after this post. The gatekeeping is not arbitrary. This is one of the oldest game communities on the Internet, and I'm not even exaggerating. Other than a few from the 90s, you'll be hard pressed to find another 25 year old game that still has people playing onlin <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 12:19:58] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I'm not going to get into this conversation other than to point out one thing, and I won't be responding to the topic after this post. The gatekeeping is not arbitrary. This is one of the oldest game communities on the Internet, and I'm not even exaggerating. Other than a few from the 90s, you'll be hard pressed to find another 25 year old game that still has people playing onlin <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 12:19:59] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| e everyday, let alone regular tournaments. With that age comes experience, and this community had had a lot of terrible people in it over the years. We took care of it, we don't miss them; everyone here is tight and we all love each other for the most part. It's not a stretch to say it's more of a family than your average game community. We're perfectly fine with Armagetron being <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 12:19:59] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| e everyday, let alone regular tournaments. With that age comes experience, and this community had had a lot of terrible people in it over the years. We took care of it, we don't miss them; everyone here is tight and we all love each other for the most part. It's not a stretch to say it's more of a family than your average game community. We're perfectly fine with Armagetron being <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 12:20:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav|  a small group of heavily vetted people. Also, one of the cornerstones of open source software is RTFM. If a new player can't read the rules and follow them, then there are plenty of other games they can play.
[2024-06-08 12:20:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav|  a small group of heavily vetted people. Also, one of the cornerstones of open source software is RTFM. If a new player can't read the rules and follow them, then there are plenty of other games they can play.
[2024-06-08 12:21:10] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| That said, we all love your enthusiasm, so keep it up.
[2024-06-08 12:21:10] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| That said, we all love your enthusiasm, so keep it up.
[2024-06-08 12:28:20] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| Appreciate this stance and it's definitely one that after listening to deli I can understand more. I'd hate to undermine anything that's been established here, it's changed the course of my life in more ways than one.
[2024-06-08 12:28:20] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| Appreciate this stance and it's definitely one that after listening to deli I can understand more. I'd hate to undermine anything that's been established here, it's changed the course of my life in more ways than one.
[2024-06-08 12:28:21] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| I yearn for more members, but I know that's a problem that isn't solved simply by making the onboarding reqs easier. ❤️ not going anywhere anytime soon
[2024-06-08 12:28:21] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| I yearn for more members, but I know that's a problem that isn't solved simply by making the onboarding reqs easier. ❤️ not going anywhere anytime soon
[2024-06-08 12:49:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| For what it's worth, I also am in favour of having the onboarding process.
[2024-06-08 12:49:01] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| For what it's worth, I also am in favour of having the onboarding process.
[2024-06-08 13:52:41] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| no english no tron!!!
[2024-06-08 13:52:41] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| no english no tron!!!
[2024-06-08 13:52:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| i just read that theres a third movie coming out in 2025
[2024-06-08 13:52:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| i just read that theres a third movie coming out in 2025
[2024-06-08 13:53:01] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:Syn| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron:_Ares idk how i didnt come across this sooner
[2024-06-08 13:53:01] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:Syn| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron:_Ares idk how i didnt come across this sooner
[2024-06-08 13:59:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh I saw something on FB and thought it was fake lol
[2024-06-08 13:59:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Oh I saw something on FB and thought it was fake lol
[2024-06-08 20:39:27] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| ye I think any barrier to entry is bad, especially since people who do get in probably aren't actually reading, just skimming for the line that says what to do, then reading "dont be mean", if they even get that far. Friends that I've had join thought it was broken because it didn't take them to the prompt immediately, just looked like an empty discord. Your willingness to read r <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 20:39:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| ye I think any barrier to entry is bad, especially since people who do get in probably aren't actually reading, just skimming for the line that says what to do, then reading "dont be mean", if they even get that far. Friends that I've had join thought it was broken because it didn't take them to the prompt immediately, just looked like an empty discord. Your willingness to read r <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 20:39:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| ules doesn't really mean much for how you're going to behave imo. I've never read the rules in any discord, nor do I plan to, doesn't make me act like an animal. Someone who does read them can still join and be an asshole. Like syn said, we do have mods and can take action if people are being a problem.
[2024-06-08 20:39:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| ules doesn't really mean much for how you're going to behave imo. I've never read the rules in any discord, nor do I plan to, doesn't make me act like an animal. Someone who does read them can still join and be an asshole. Like syn said, we do have mods and can take action if people are being a problem.
[2024-06-08 20:39:29] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| There's currently 70 of our 979 members that have not made it past the on-boarding process, but didn't leave the server yet (people are lazy about cleaning up their tons of discords). 2/3 of those are people that joined in the last 3 months. Most people who don't make it through the on-board probably do leave the server right after, so there's probably a ton of people we've missed out on recently.
[2024-06-08 20:39:30] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| There's currently 70 of our 979 members that have not made it past the on-boarding process, but didn't leave the server yet (people are lazy about cleaning up their tons of discords). 2/3 of those are people that joined in the last 3 months. Most people who don't make it through the on-board probably do leave the server right after, so there's probably a ton of people we've missed out on recently.
[2024-06-08 20:39:31] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| I respect the desire to have a tight knit community, but I think we can have that without turning away people who have a chance of being long term members of that tight knit community, just cause they're lazy, young, non-english speakers, or whatever reason.
[2024-06-08 20:39:31] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| I respect the desire to have a tight knit community, but I think we can have that without turning away people who have a chance of being long term members of that tight knit community, just cause they're lazy, young, non-english speakers, or whatever reason.
[2024-06-08 20:39:55] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| You don't really have to read anything to download the game and join a server, why make them do that to go talk to people about the game?
[2024-06-08 20:39:56] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| You don't really have to read anything to download the game and join a server, why make them do that to go talk to people about the game?
[2024-06-08 22:03:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I kind of agree with nanu here because I was thinking that people already know what is and what isn't ok, nothing unique or new in our rules. If someone wants to be an asshole they aren't going to stop at the rules page and think "well damn they put these rules up so I can't be an asshole here". And I'll be honest I also didn't read the rules until today, I just quickly  <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 22:03:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Honestly I kind of agree with nanu here because I was thinking that people already know what is and what isn't ok, nothing unique or new in our rules. If someone wants to be an asshole they aren't going to stop at the rules page and think "well damn they put these rules up so I can't be an asshole here". And I'll be honest I also didn't read the rules until today, I just quickly  <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 22:03:06] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| realized that I could just type in don't be mean and moved on
[2024-06-08 22:03:06] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| realized that I could just type in don't be mean and moved on
[2024-06-08 22:15:37] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So what does the onboarding really accomplish if most aren't really reading it and it's not really going to make anyone abide by them? Probably has kept out a lot of people who aren't going to break the rules and probably kept out zero who don't care about the rules.
[2024-06-08 22:15:37] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| So what does the onboarding really accomplish if most aren't really reading it and it's not really going to make anyone abide by them? Probably has kept out a lot of people who aren't going to break the rules and probably kept out zero who don't care about the rules.
[2024-06-08 22:42:39] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:anjo3060| i'd wager the barrier has probably had more impact in slowing down potential traffic on the grid than curating any kind of behavior. i think removing/keeping it is pretty inconsequential in the long run but i tend to agree with syn's philosophy that the fewer hoops one has to jump through to play this game, the better.
[2024-06-08 22:42:39] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| i'd wager the barrier has probably had more impact in slowing down potential traffic on the grid than curating any kind of behavior. i think removing/keeping it is pretty inconsequential in the long run but i tend to agree with syn's philosophy that the fewer hoops one has to jump through to play this game, the better.
[2024-06-08 23:06:11] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think you said it well
[2024-06-08 23:06:11] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I think you said it well
[2024-06-08 23:10:49] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| You make a lot of good points but I just want to point out these are two different things. One is a game that has a chat function and tools to help people self-moderate their experience (Player Police Menu). The other is a community where some people post semi-personal information on a regular basis. It makes perfect sense to me that you would have a different approach to how peo <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 23:10:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| You make a lot of good points but I just want to point out these are two different things. One is a game that has a chat function and tools to help people self-moderate their experience (Player Police Menu). The other is a community where some people post semi-personal information on a regular basis. It makes perfect sense to me that you would have a different approach to how peo <clipped message>
[2024-06-08 23:10:50] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ple engage with the game itself and the community hub.
[2024-06-08 23:10:50] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| ple engage with the game itself and the community hub.
[2024-06-08 23:13:43] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I really didn't want to add more to this conversation because I don't have any stake in it, but I wonder if there is something built into Discord that allows for some compromise. For instance, anyone can join the support channel without agreeing to terms and services, but other channels require that you read and sign?
[2024-06-08 23:13:43] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| I really didn't want to add more to this conversation because I don't have any stake in it, but I wonder if there is something built into Discord that allows for some compromise. For instance, anyone can join the support channel without agreeing to terms and services, but other channels require that you read and sign?
[2024-06-08 23:14:17] <armagetron-bridge> 06discord:sine.wav| If that's possible we can segregate the Discord server a little bit as a compromise?
[2024-06-08 23:14:17] <armagetronbridge> 06discord:sine.wav| If that's possible we can segregate the Discord server a little bit as a compromise?
[2024-06-08 23:38:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I'm not sure if I understood the point or if i may participate on it.. but as a "new member" even if the game is simple but complex, rules are made to teach members and build a culture(?). Armagetron is not a game for me but a platform to make different ways to have fun.
[2024-06-08 23:38:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I'm not sure if I understood the point or if i may participate on it.. but as a "new member" even if the game is simple but complex, rules are made to teach members and build a culture(?). Armagetron is not a game for me but a platform to make different ways to have fun.
[2024-06-08 23:38:13] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| In order to make the game interesting for everyone, there's no space for early or mid game since everything happens so fast that late game players get bored or stressed, and end up quitting.
[2024-06-08 23:38:13] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| In order to make the game interesting for everyone, there's no space for early or mid game since everything happens so fast that late game players get bored or stressed, and end up quitting.
[2024-06-08 23:38:14] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| For me, "the challenge of the grid" is to keep acompetitive comunity, learn and develop new ways to play and create a space for the people to practice and get the feeling of "lvl up".
[2024-06-08 23:38:15] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| For me, "the challenge of the grid" is to keep acompetitive comunity, learn and develop new ways to play and create a space for the people to practice and get the feeling of "lvl up".
[2024-06-08 23:38:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| Nothing of that can be possible without guidance, when i started i had "teachers" or "masters".
[2024-06-08 23:38:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| Nothing of that can be possible without guidance, when i started i had "teachers" or "masters".
[2024-06-08 23:38:17] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to tunnel from Johnny
[2024-06-08 23:38:17] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to tunnel from Johnny
[2024-06-08 23:38:18] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to defend from Wolf 
[2024-06-08 23:38:18] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to defend from Wolf 
[2024-06-08 23:38:20] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to see the future (play with +600 ping) from noodles
[2024-06-08 23:38:20] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I learned how to see the future (play with +600 ping) from noodles
[2024-06-08 23:38:21] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| And i had a rival/partner with my skill level on Dany
[2024-06-08 23:38:21] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| And i had a rival/partner with my skill level on Dany
[2024-06-08 23:38:22] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| My point on it is that the community makes the game, and the game is just the platform. Guidance is needed somehow. Btw i haven't played more bc i dont have enough time (i wish there was a mobile app).
[2024-06-08 23:38:22] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| My point on it is that the community makes the game, and the game is just the platform. Guidance is needed somehow. Btw i haven't played more bc i dont have enough time (i wish there was a mobile app).
[2024-06-08 23:38:23] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| Players always think "would it be fun to try?" Rather than "should i keep trying?"
[2024-06-08 23:38:24] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| Players always think "would it be fun to try?" Rather than "should i keep trying?"
[2024-06-08 23:38:25] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I hope it helps somehow
[2024-06-08 23:38:25] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:tekeyoyo| I hope it helps somehow
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