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[2024-06-29 10:15:53] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just finished the last episode! Episodes 11 and 12 had me going, thinking that they made some fucked up nonsense ending but naw, they killed it with the last episode 10/10
[2024-06-29 10:15:53] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Just finished the last episode! Episodes 11 and 12 had me going, thinking that they made some fucked up nonsense ending but naw, they killed it with the last episode 10/10
[2024-06-29 11:29:30] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| niceee man yea i enjoyed the ending too
[2024-06-29 11:29:30] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| niceee man yea i enjoyed the ending too
[2024-06-29 11:29:35] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| top 5 shows of all time for me
[2024-06-29 11:29:35] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| top 5 shows of all time for me
[2024-06-29 11:29:39] <armagetron-bridge> 03discord:ellis| maybe top 10
[2024-06-29 11:29:39] <armagetronbridge> 03discord:ellis| maybe top 10
[2024-06-29 11:32:25] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's definitely nice to find a show with good ending cuz so many of them either get a fucked up ending or no ending at all
[2024-06-29 11:32:25] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| It's definitely nice to find a show with good ending cuz so many of them either get a fucked up ending or no ending at all
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[2024-06-29 16:32:02] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| holy shit. 
[2024-06-29 16:32:02] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| holy shit. 
[2024-06-29 16:32:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wanted to try out something a little less chemical than permethrin for my moth problem, mostly because a single drop can kill an entire lake and that's an ecological nightmare (and also because that much permethrin will make catto very unhappy). Ended up buying some lavender, some lavender oil, peppermint oil,. and a HUGE bulk bottle of vinegar. Tried ti all out and *fuck me its so strong*
[2024-06-29 16:32:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I wanted to try out something a little less chemical than permethrin for my moth problem, mostly because a single drop can kill an entire lake and that's an ecological nightmare (and also because that much permethrin will make catto very unhappy). Ended up buying some lavender, some lavender oil, peppermint oil,. and a HUGE bulk bottle of vinegar. Tried ti all out and *fuck me its so strong*
[2024-06-29 16:32:16] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I swear my house now smells like a dowager's handbag
[2024-06-29 16:32:16] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I swear my house now smells like a dowager's handbag
[2024-06-29 18:12:17] <Lucifer_arma_> It's probably the vinegar.  I used it for fruit flies awhile back and it all evaporated.  My apartment smelled like a vinegaroon colony
[2024-06-29 18:12:18] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| It's probably the vinegar.  I used it for fruit flies awhile back and it all evaporated.  My apartment smelled like a vinegaroon colony
[2024-06-29 18:12:37] <Lucifer_arma_> *don't* google "vinegaroon", if you don't know what it is, continue living your blissful life
[2024-06-29 18:12:37] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| *don't* google "vinegaroon", if you don't know what it is, continue living your blissful life
[2024-06-29 18:12:50] <Lucifer_arma_> The Last Starfighter video is done and almost uploaded *sigh*
[2024-06-29 18:12:50] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| The Last Starfighter video is done and almost uploaded *sigh*
[2024-06-29 18:12:52] <Lucifer_arma_> late
[2024-06-29 18:12:52] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| late
[2024-06-29 18:13:12] <Lucifer_arma_> now I need to write the script for the Spock or Therapist video
[2024-06-29 18:13:12] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| now I need to write the script for the Spock or Therapist video
[2024-06-29 18:26:05] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| to be honest, I don't smell the vinegar itself - but I suspect the vinegar is massively amplifying the peppermint oil. It's all dilute to something like 1/10 anyway
[2024-06-29 18:26:06] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| to be honest, I don't smell the vinegar itself - but I suspect the vinegar is massively amplifying the peppermint oil. It's all dilute to something like 1/10 anyway
[2024-06-29 18:26:10] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| ngl I kinda like it
[2024-06-29 18:26:10] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| ngl I kinda like it
[2024-06-29 18:26:48] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm hoping the vinegar nukes the moth larvae, I found loads of bebby moths over the past week. I thought they were just flying in through the window but apparently not
[2024-06-29 18:26:48] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:delinquent| I'm hoping the vinegar nukes the moth larvae, I found loads of bebby moths over the past week. I thought they were just flying in through the window but apparently not
[2024-06-29 19:02:13] <Lucifer_arma_> where are they laying their eggs?  I thought moths laid eggs in closets or soil.  Do you have lots of indoor plants?
[2024-06-29 19:02:13] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| where are they laying their eggs?  I thought moths laid eggs in closets or soil.  Do you have lots of indoor plants?
[2024-06-29 19:06:06] <Lucifer_arma_> Do other channels who do reviews of movies deal with all the copyright blocks?  It's clear and obvious fair use.  YouTube's content ID thing keeps pulling false positives.
[2024-06-29 19:06:07] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Do other channels who do reviews of movies deal with all the copyright blocks?  It's clear and obvious fair use.  YouTube's content ID thing keeps pulling false positives.
[2024-06-29 19:44:39] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Hey all, planning to run Armagetron at a LAN party coming up. Aiming at 32 players simultaneously, what would you guys suggest as the most fun tournament idea? 8v8v8v8? or smaller teams? Just looking for what's the most fun for most likely 100% new players, preferably with more people playing simultaneously. 
[2024-06-29 19:44:39] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Hey all, planning to run Armagetron at a LAN party coming up. Aiming at 32 players simultaneously, what would you guys suggest as the most fun tournament idea? 8v8v8v8? or smaller teams? Just looking for what's the most fun for most likely 100% new players, preferably with more people playing simultaneously. 
[2024-06-29 19:44:40] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Also, just looking to maybe get some input from y'all on game setup rules, the min/max teams/players always seems to get goofed up with random AIs where they shouldn't be. Thanks!!
[2024-06-29 19:44:40] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Also, just looking to maybe get some input from y'all on game setup rules, the min/max teams/players always seems to get goofed up with random AIs where they shouldn't be. Thanks!!
[2024-06-29 20:15:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| can a server handle 32 players simultaneously on lan?
[2024-06-29 20:15:56] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| can a server handle 32 players simultaneously on lan?
[2024-06-29 20:19:29] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| I would think yes
[2024-06-29 20:19:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| I would think yes
[2024-06-29 20:19:47] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| good map should include zones to provide direction
[2024-06-29 20:19:47] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| good map should include zones to provide direction
[2024-06-29 20:19:55] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| but fort might be too tricky
[2024-06-29 20:19:55] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| but fort might be too tricky
[2024-06-29 20:20:34] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i was thinking old school fort like 8v8 on one server and 8v8 on another
[2024-06-29 20:20:35] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i was thinking old school fort like 8v8 on one server and 8v8 on another
[2024-06-29 20:20:47] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| then swap teams round
[2024-06-29 20:20:47] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| then swap teams round
[2024-06-29 20:20:59] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| 4 team fort
[2024-06-29 20:20:59] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| 4 team fort
[2024-06-29 20:21:13] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| ffa 32 player sumobar
[2024-06-29 20:21:13] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| ffa 32 player sumobar
[2024-06-29 20:21:18] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but isnt 4 team fort 4v4v4v4?
[2024-06-29 20:21:18] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but isnt 4 team fort 4v4v4v4?
[2024-06-29 20:21:26] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| make it 8v8v8v8 instead
[2024-06-29 20:21:26] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| make it 8v8v8v8 instead
[2024-06-29 20:21:27] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| 32 sumobar lol
[2024-06-29 20:21:28] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| 32 sumobar lol
[2024-06-29 20:21:40] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| that would require a bigger map no?
[2024-06-29 20:21:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| that would require a bigger map no?
[2024-06-29 20:21:49] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| minor tweaking
[2024-06-29 20:21:49] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| minor tweaking
[2024-06-29 20:22:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| more like major
[2024-06-29 20:22:00] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| more like major
[2024-06-29 20:22:16] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| ? just x the dimensions
[2024-06-29 20:22:16] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| ? just x the dimensions
[2024-06-29 20:22:28] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| maybe
[2024-06-29 20:22:29] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| maybe
[2024-06-29 20:22:42] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| could even just keep the map
[2024-06-29 20:22:42] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| could even just keep the map
[2024-06-29 20:22:54] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| but be more generous with rubber etc.
[2024-06-29 20:22:54] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| but be more generous with rubber etc.
[2024-06-29 20:23:04] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| im not sure id mess about with rubber
[2024-06-29 20:23:04] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| im not sure id mess about with rubber
[2024-06-29 20:23:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i think 8v8v8v8 would be choatic
[2024-06-29 20:23:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i think 8v8v8v8 would be choatic
[2024-06-29 20:23:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| chaotic
[2024-06-29 20:23:25] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| chaotic
[2024-06-29 20:23:36] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| 2 servers is easy
[2024-06-29 20:23:37] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| 2 servers is easy
[2024-06-29 20:23:44] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| when you play for the first time you feel like instadying when you touch a wall
[2024-06-29 20:23:44] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| when you play for the first time you feel like instadying when you touch a wall
[2024-06-29 20:23:45] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and no messing about with maps
[2024-06-29 20:23:45] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| and no messing about with maps
[2024-06-29 20:24:02] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| 16 players is enough
[2024-06-29 20:24:02] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| 16 players is enough
[2024-06-29 20:24:05] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| could do brackets
[2024-06-29 20:24:06] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| could do brackets
[2024-06-29 20:24:18] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| im jealous
[2024-06-29 20:24:18] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| im jealous
[2024-06-29 20:24:26] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @joooooooooo have the people you are doing your lan party with played before?
[2024-06-29 20:24:26] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| @joooooooooo have the people you are doing your lan party with played before?
[2024-06-29 20:24:50] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| he said it will be the first time for some
[2024-06-29 20:24:50] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| he said it will be the first time for some
[2024-06-29 20:25:06] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| yeah then 8v8 fort i would do on 2 servers
[2024-06-29 20:25:06] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| yeah then 8v8 fort i would do on 2 servers
[2024-06-29 20:25:24] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if its exactly 32 people
[2024-06-29 20:25:25] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if its exactly 32 people
[2024-06-29 20:25:34] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| only if they manage to grind within the first 15 minutes
[2024-06-29 20:25:35] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| only if they manage to grind within the first 15 minutes
[2024-06-29 20:25:40] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| otherwise could do 6v6 on 3 servers or something
[2024-06-29 20:25:40] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| otherwise could do 6v6 on 3 servers or something
[2024-06-29 20:25:42] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| otherwise just durka durka land
[2024-06-29 20:25:42] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| otherwise just durka durka land
[2024-06-29 20:25:56] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i learnt to play on fort
[2024-06-29 20:25:56] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i learnt to play on fort
[2024-06-29 20:26:17] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if i can do it then im sure they will get it
[2024-06-29 20:26:17] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| if i can do it then im sure they will get it
[2024-06-29 20:26:26] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| they dont need to be experts in fort
[2024-06-29 20:26:27] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| they dont need to be experts in fort
[2024-06-29 20:26:42] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| you have a few k hours in the game
[2024-06-29 20:26:42] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| you have a few k hours in the game
[2024-06-29 20:26:49] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ?
[2024-06-29 20:26:50] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| ?
[2024-06-29 20:26:56] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| my first fort game was probably not fun
[2024-06-29 20:26:56] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| my first fort game was probably not fun
[2024-06-29 20:27:08] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| mine was ....until fofo kicked me lmao
[2024-06-29 20:27:08] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| mine was ....until fofo kicked me lmao
[2024-06-29 20:27:17] <armagetronbridge> 04discord:olive2306| pretty sure the same happened to me
[2024-06-29 20:27:17] <armagetron-bridge> 04discord:olive2306| pretty sure the same happened to me
[2024-06-29 20:28:21] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but if they are all new, it should be ok
[2024-06-29 20:28:21] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| but if they are all new, it should be ok
[2024-06-29 20:37:47] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| my first fort pickup game was syre yelling at me the entire match
[2024-06-29 20:37:47] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| my first fort pickup game was syre yelling at me the entire match
[2024-06-29 20:38:52] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| didnt add again until 8 or so years later
[2024-06-29 20:38:52] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| didnt add again until 8 or so years later
[2024-06-29 20:45:43] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| most gamers nowadays have either played or understand the concept of a battle royal, so I'd suggest a super large sumo zone, bigger than just one scaled to 32 players based on current 8 player scale. That way people can drive around for a bit without pressure, encounter others, do a little dogfighting and maybe die, but eventually forced into the middle if they're still alive. Co <clipped message>
[2024-06-29 20:45:43] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| most gamers nowadays have either played or understand the concept of a battle royal, so I'd suggest a super large sumo zone, bigger than just one scaled to 32 players based on current 8 player scale. That way people can drive around for a bit without pressure, encounter others, do a little dogfighting and maybe die, but eventually forced into the middle if they're still alive. Co <clipped message>
[2024-06-29 20:45:44] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| uld get rid of kill/zone points and just have it be last man standing, one round matches. Or some variant idk
[2024-06-29 20:45:45] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| uld get rid of kill/zone points and just have it be last man standing, one round matches. Or some variant idk
[2024-06-29 20:49:28] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:Nanu| actually that might be a bad idea because of how long people might have to wait nvm 🤤. Forgot with battle royales people just queue up right after dying to play again
[2024-06-29 20:49:28] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:Nanu| actually that might be a bad idea because of how long people might have to wait nvm 🤤. Forgot with battle royales people just queue up right after dying to play again
[2024-06-29 20:53:40] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| For new players I would recommend a capture the flag tournament with 4-8 player teams, with the resurrection feature people will feel more engaged while playing.
[2024-06-29 20:53:40] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| For new players I would recommend a capture the flag tournament with 4-8 player teams, with the resurrection feature people will feel more engaged while playing.
[2024-06-29 20:53:59] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| @ninjapotato1080 is the map pro
[2024-06-29 20:53:59] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:rudycantfail.| @ninjapotato1080 is the map pro
[2024-06-29 20:56:48] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I would second a ctf game idea
[2024-06-29 20:56:48] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| I would second a ctf game idea
[2024-06-29 20:57:30] <armagetronbridge> 15discord:Nélg| ctf does require a sty(+ct(+ap)) server, versus sumo which will work on any current version
[2024-06-29 20:57:30] <armagetron-bridge> 15discord:Nélg| ctf does require a sty(+ct(+ap)) server, versus sumo which will work on any current version
[2024-06-29 20:58:06] <armagetronbridge> 07discord:anjo3060| game modes with respawn and/or high rubber are generally preferred by newer players. i remember not playing sumo for my first 4 years on tron and then waiting another 10 for fortress
[2024-06-29 20:58:07] <armagetron-bridge> 07discord:anjo3060| game modes with respawn and/or high rubber are generally preferred by newer players. i remember not playing sumo for my first 4 years on tron and then waiting another 10 for fortress
[2024-06-29 20:58:42] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| respawn to start off ..yes definitely
[2024-06-29 20:58:42] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| respawn to start off ..yes definitely
[2024-06-29 20:58:51] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i would not say high rubber though
[2024-06-29 20:58:51] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| i would not say high rubber though
[2024-06-29 20:59:00] <armagetronbridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| just my opinion
[2024-06-29 20:59:01] <armagetron-bridge> 14discord:monkey_arma| just my opinion
[2024-06-29 21:01:04] <armagetronbridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Anything with respawns enabled would be a great idea in general, no one is going to enjoy waiting to 10-15 mins for the next round after only surviving 15-30 seconds
[2024-06-29 21:01:04] <armagetron-bridge> 02discord:niveK.POT| Anything with respawns enabled would be a great idea in general, no one is going to enjoy waiting to 10-15 mins for the next round after only surviving 15-30 seconds
[2024-06-29 21:10:31] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| More than likely it would be many of their first introduction to the game
[2024-06-29 21:10:31] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| More than likely it would be many of their first introduction to the game
[2024-06-29 21:15:03] <armagetronbridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Just trying to figure out the balance between fun and competition for newer players, I’m assuming 2 teams regardless of size is probably the most dramatic and fun
[2024-06-29 21:15:03] <armagetron-bridge> 08discord:joooooooooo| Just trying to figure out the balance between fun and competition for newer players, I’m assuming 2 teams regardless of size is probably the most dramatic and fun
[2024-06-29 21:29:26] <Lucifer_arma_> 5 is the ideal team size
[2024-06-29 21:29:27] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| 5 is the ideal team size
[2024-06-29 21:29:55] <Lucifer_arma_> I'd do team death match, last man standing
[2024-06-29 21:29:56] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I'd do team death match, last man standing
[2024-06-29 21:30:16] <Lucifer_arma_> four players per team, with about an hour of free play
[2024-06-29 21:30:16] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| four players per team, with about an hour of free play
[2024-06-29 21:30:44] <Lucifer_arma_> that'll set you up for teams to split up into pairs and work the grid that way, occasionally coming together as a full team
[2024-06-29 21:30:45] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| that'll set you up for teams to split up into pairs and work the grid that way, occasionally coming together as a full team
[2024-06-29 21:31:13] <Lucifer_arma_> anyway, I'm off again for a little bit
[2024-06-29 21:31:14] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| anyway, I'm off again for a little bit
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[2024-06-29 23:21:41] <Lucifer_arma_> For settings, I'd use the old Breakfast settings, of course, which morphed into the Fortress settings.  So, fortress physics, last man standing game
[2024-06-29 23:21:43] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| For settings, I'd use the old Breakfast settings, of course, which morphed into the Fortress settings.  So, fortress physics, last man standing game
[2024-06-29 23:22:17] <Lucifer_arma_> Or you could grab my breakfast in hell settings and just increase the grid size.  The smaller arena is difficult for new players, but the physics settings are great for new players
[2024-06-29 23:22:17] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Or you could grab my breakfast in hell settings and just increase the grid size.  The smaller arena is difficult for new players, but the physics settings are great for new players
[2024-06-29 23:23:46] <Lucifer_arma_> if you really want to run only one server, I'd also make a map that has a separate arena for each group of players, with four spawn points in each one.  So, two arenas for 32 players with 4 players per team.
[2024-06-29 23:23:46] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| if you really want to run only one server, I'd also make a map that has a separate arena for each group of players, with four spawn points in each one.  So, two arenas for 32 players with 4 players per team.
[2024-06-29 23:23:55] <Lucifer_arma_> Each arena would have 16 players in it
[2024-06-29 23:23:55] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| Each arena would have 16 players in it
[2024-06-29 23:24:53] <Lucifer_arma_> or you could make a fun map with four arenas connected by narrow tunnels, two teams spawn per arena.  So whenever you clear out your arena, you move to another area and fight some more, or you split off and send two one way, and two another way
[2024-06-29 23:24:53] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| or you could make a fun map with four arenas connected by narrow tunnels, two teams spawn per arena.  So whenever you clear out your arena, you move to another area and fight some more, or you split off and send two one way, and two another way
[2024-06-29 23:25:47] <Lucifer_arma_> I'd AI balance, though, to make sure there are four players per team.  That way, if someone has to step out and use the restroom, you can still have balanced teams, and the AIs do death match quite well, even if they don't play as a team very well
[2024-06-29 23:25:47] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| I'd AI balance, though, to make sure there are four players per team.  That way, if someone has to step out and use the restroom, you can still have balanced teams, and the AIs do death match quite well, even if they don't play as a team very well
[2024-06-29 23:27:06] <Lucifer_arma_> ok, so use zones v2 and do this:
[2024-06-29 23:27:06] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| ok, so use zones v2 and do this:
[2024-06-29 23:27:37] <Lucifer_arma_> four arenas, each of the four walls in each arena contains a hole with a passage to another arena.  They'll cross as needed.  Set your spawn points so that each team has a hole right behind it.
[2024-06-29 23:27:38] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| four arenas, each of the four walls in each arena contains a hole with a passage to another arena.  They'll cross as needed.  Set your spawn points so that each team has a hole right behind it.
[2024-06-29 23:28:03] <Lucifer_arma_> For the longer passages, add a zone that increases their speed, so that it takes the same amount of time to travel the long way to a new area as it takes to go the short way
[2024-06-29 23:28:03] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| For the longer passages, add a zone that increases their speed, so that it takes the same amount of time to travel the long way to a new area as it takes to go the short way
[2024-06-29 23:28:54] <Lucifer_arma_> you'll want to draw the longer, faster passageways in a way that they're easy to traverse so the teams that spawn near those aren't disadvantaged because of them
[2024-06-29 23:28:54] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| you'll want to draw the longer, faster passageways in a way that they're easy to traverse so the teams that spawn near those aren't disadvantaged because of them
[2024-06-29 23:29:40] <Lucifer_arma_> and, of course, it won't take long for players to figure out that they might block those passageways, but that's just more fun :)
[2024-06-29 23:29:40] <armagetronbridge> 06irc:Lucifer_arma_| and, of course, it won't take long for players to figure out that they might block those passageways, but that's just more fun :)
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